Brian Made Her PUKE？! Reformed HØE？! Woke Girl Came To DESTROY Brian In A DEBATE？! ｜ Dating Talk 277
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10 hours and 20 minutes
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163.6634
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678
Summary
On this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, Brent and Brian discuss Kanye West's new album, and the fact that women with large labia are the only ones who should be dating. They also discuss the growing problem of women who only date women who have a vagina.
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Follow my cat. Yep. Quick public service announcement. I'm the founder, tab over. I'm
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the founder of the nonprofit and grassroots movement, Big Labia Matter, or BLM for short.
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Olivia can't matter until Big Labia Matter. So fuck Kanye. I ratioed him on X. Fuck Matt
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Rife. Fuck plastic surgeons, the surgery staff, and as a motherfucking crew. And yeah, screw
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Matt Rife, Howard Stern, Dane Cook, all you guys suck. But yeah, I don't know. As someone
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who only dates women with large labia, this is a really important issue for me. You know,
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there's like stuff going on with Venezuela. There's like the ICE immigration stuff, the Middle
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East, Ukraine, Russia. But like all that stuff pales in comparison to 10,000 labiaplasty
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procedures a year. These women, they're chopping off their pussy lips. It's very upsetting.
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So I don't like it one bit. I only date women who, you know. So anyways, if you can't catch
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the full shows, we have a clips channel. Links in the description. We have a discord, discord.gg.
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You're not, don't pull that up because I don't even know what I put on that. You can put it to
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in any case, discord.gg slash whatever we post our stream schedule. You can do in the stream yard.
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Post our stream schedule behind the scenes, hate mail. Nope, that is not what I meant. The stream yard
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thing. We post our stream schedule behind the scenes, hate mail, research, studies, a bunch
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of other stuff. If you're my Caucasian, you will join the discord. Let's see. Oh, is there anything
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else? I'm hiring two positions, a new helmet girl sidekick and the new soldier sidekick. So think like
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old school Gustavo. You need to live or be able to make it to Santa Barbara. You can DM you have done
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some crazy shit. I don't know what you just did. Mary, what did you do? Bro. Yeah, but where is
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stream yard here? Actually scuffed. Okay. Uh, you need to, yeah, you can DM whatever on Instagram
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if you're interested without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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Uh, go ahead. Hi, my name is Courtney King. I'm 25 years old. I'm a full-time UGC creator.
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What were the other places? Uh, where are you from? I'm from Florida. Um, but I'm currently
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moving to LA. All right. And, uh, any college? Yes. I'm in nursing school through Valencia
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College. Anything before that? Like college before that? No. Okay. So you just started nursing
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school? Yeah. Okay. Got it. Uh, how long you been doing that? Like a year and a half now. Do you
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have to do like your general? That's what I'm like. I'm not in the actual nursing school yet. I just
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finished my prerequisites. You're going to go to nursing school? Yeah. Okay. Well, you just finished
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your prereqs. Yeah. What were your prereqs? Anatomy and Physiology 1, Anatomy and Physiology 2.
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What about you? What's up? What's up? My name is Lada Cardwell-Mims. Um, I'm a music artist.
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Age? Originally, I'm 18. Okay. I'm originally from Russia, St. Petersburg, and I currently live in Los
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Angeles, California. All right. When did you move to the United States? Uh, two years ago. Okay. And
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what's the story? What's the story there? Just moved from Russia. Honestly, I was just pursuing a
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music career. Okay. So that's my main point. But I used to live in Tucson, Arizona, but living in LA was
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always my dream. So I could just finally made it here. Now, did you move with your family or
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what's the story? No, solo, just alone. You moved at 16? I moved, uh, to Arizona with my family
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when I was 16. And then I moved to LA alone when I was 17. I see. But the move to the United States,
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you did come with your family. Yeah. So your mom, your dad, siblings? Yeah. Yeah. Um, my mom
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and my dad and my brother. Okay. Gotcha. Um, and, uh, is that a, I thought we were not on good
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terms with Russia. I didn't know an entire Russian family could move to the United States. So what is
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the, do you guys have, did you come here legally? Do you have visas? What's the? Yeah. Um, so, okay.
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I'm honestly only partially Russian because I was born in Russia. Okay. I lived my whole life there
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till I was 16, but, uh, my dad is from Kentucky. It's kind of weird. So your dad's American. Yeah.
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And your mom's Russian. Yeah. Does your dad have dual citizenship in Russia? No, I do. Okay. You
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were born in Russia. Yeah. Okay. Your dad born in the United States. Yeah. Okay. So you have dual
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citizenship in the United States. Yeah. You're okay. So was there like a immigration process or
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what? I just, well, I'm not for you. I mean, I guess your entire family kind of, I mean, was there
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an immigration process? I, did you, I get, I don't know if you had to apply for visas or yeah, well,
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no, I had to put like two passports since a kid. So I didn't really have to worry about anything.
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Um, right. But your mother not being a citizen of the United States. Oh, that, that was, that
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was hard, but we got over it first. Like, yeah, that was a little more difficult. Okay. Got
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it. All right. Um, so you speak Russian, English, any other languages? Um, just those two. I'm
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trying to get to Spanish, but I'm not there. Okay. All right. And, uh, are you in college
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right now? I don't go to school now. Okay. Got it. What about you? I'm Jamie Erickson. I
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am 21 years old. I do OnlyFans. Um, I live in Florida. I was born in Connecticut though,
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school. And I don't go to college. Any college? Not at all. Just, I was homeschooled.
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Um, uh, for most of your life, all of your life? I was in public school for all of school until high
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school. And then I was homeschooled for high school. That was about it. Okay. Gotcha. What
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about you? Hi, my name is Elisa Truskinov. I am 28 and I grew up in Jersey. I am a script
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supervisor in film and TV. New Jersey. Yeah. Not the country. Wait, is Jersey a, is Jersey
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a country? Isn't there a country named Jersey? Hold on. I think so. Wait. No, I'm not from
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Jordan. Jersey country. I'm not from the country. I'm from this. Well, I grew up in the state of New
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Jersey. We just don't say the new part. It's not a country. It's like a territory of the, uh, of
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England, the British crown. I don't fucking know. Anyways,
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uh, it's an Island controlled by the UK. Thank you, Chad. I got confused there. Uh, so you're from
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New Jersey. Yeah. I grew up there and I went to NYU Tisch for film and TV a few years ago.
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Okay. And, uh, let's see. You, uh, what did you get your degree in? In film and TV.
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Bachelor's? Bachelor's. Yeah. Okay. But that, and you graduated quite a few years ago. Yeah. 2019.
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Okay. Gotcha. What about you? Hi, I'm Tabitha Chang. I'm 28.
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I'm currently a stay at home mom of two. Um, I do have about three years of college
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at CSU Monterey Bay with kinesiology being my degree on that. And then I got a business certificate
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last year. Um, but otherwise. And where are you from? We're, we live in Fresno now. I'm originally
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from the Bay area. Okay. Kind of. What about you? Hi, my name is Katie. Um, I'm 26, about to be
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27. My birthday's in a few days. Um, I am a full-time model actress and content creator.
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I do UGC work. Um, and I went to some college originally from Texas, just moved to LA about
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a month ago. All right. Uh, some people in the chat for both of you are asking what UGC
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content is. Do you want to? Yeah. Um, so it's user generated content. So basically for instance,
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like I have a contract with a, uh, car dealership and Hawthorne and I make all of their content
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for Instagram and that's a month to month ordeal or brands will send, uh, they'll pay for you
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to post stuff on your Instagram or just create content for them to utilize for advertising.
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So, or advertisements or whatever. User generated content. So it's more authentic advertising
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basically. Okay. So like if I don't know, some, uh, bidet company wants to, you would be like,
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wow, this bidet is so amazing. Yeah. Kind of. Yeah. Kind of. You could. Yeah. It cleans really well
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or it doesn't. My booty hole feels great after this amazing bidet. Like you got to make it like
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super viral and I got to give it some, uh, some charisma. What about you? Um, my name's Ava
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Madsen. I'm from Austin, Texas, and I went to the university of Idaho for kinesiology. I plan on going
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back in the fall for business marketing and I do sales. All right. Age 20, 20. And sorry,
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you're from where again, Texas, you said, or I live in Austin, Texas right now, but I'm originally
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from Boise, Idaho, Idaho. Okay. Nice. All right. What about you? Uh, my name is Levi. I'm 25 years
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old. I currently work in the car business with my family and I went to university of Miami and studied
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biology. When did you graduate from there? 2023. Okay. So two years ago, three years ago. Uh,
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wait, and you said for work though, you sell cars. Is that kind of do a little bit of everything?
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Like I said, it's a family owned business. That's my work for my parents. So in terms of the degree
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that you got in bio, you have a bachelor's in bachelor's of science. Wait, you could do either.
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I have a bachelor of arts in biology. Okay. Uh, what did you have a sense of what you wanted to do with
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that or? Um, medical school. Is that still on the table or? It is. Okay. Um, have you applied to any
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medical schools? Have you taken the MCAT? No. So when I started, I wasn't really exactly sure what
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route I wanted to take. It kind of just was, I knew I was interested in science, so I chose something I
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was thought would be interesting and fun to learn about. And eventually it kind of just after I
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graduated, of course I set myself on medical school. So in the meantime, between then and now I've been
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adding up the prerequisites I didn't take in undergrad. So like biochemistry, physics, I did
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take organic chemistry. Uh, and then let's say, uh, after med school, do you have a sense of
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what kind of medical discipline you'd like to go into? Surgery. Any specific kind? Orthopedic or brain
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surgery? I liked plastics a lot. Um, or on. So plastic surgery? Yeah. Oh, okay. Uh, so like
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fake titties and shit? No. More so like, uh, reconstructive. Reconstructive. Okay. Like the
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good kind of plastic surgery. Although I mean, don't, um, I'm actually curious, are there plastic
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surgeons that refuse to do the cosmetic plastic surgeries? I don't know. And they're like, you
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know what? I'm not, I'm not going to give some fucking blonde, some fucking fake titties, but
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I will like, if somebody's half his face gets blown off, I'll do that. You know? Um, I don't
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know. I guess, I mean, it's definitely up to the surgeon, of course. I mean, what, what surgeries
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they will and won't perform? Okay. What about you? Hi, I'm Anya. I'm 31 years old. I'm from
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Connecticut, but I was born in the Philippines. I work in human resources, but, um, my degree
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is in human development, family science, and I have a minor in psychology. Um, shout out
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to the discord gang. Shout out, whatever discord gang, discord.gg slash whatever. All right.
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Going around the table, uh, once more, we're going to have everybody, uh, share their relationship
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status. And, uh, so if you're single, how long have you been single and longest relationship
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you've ever been in? If you're, I am in a relationship. I was with the same guy for seven
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years. We just recently got back together. Okay. So should we just say seven years then?
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Sure. He had a few girlfriends in between there, but how long were you guys split up? Like a
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year. One year. Okay. So you, you guys met in high school or, um, I was 11 and he was
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18 when we met, but it wasn't like that until I was 18. Yes. It wasn't like that until I
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was 18, but I had a crush on him. Uh, was it, was it like a family friend or something?
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Yeah. My best friend's brother. What do you guys think that's a bit of a yikes? I don't
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know. I don't know. Super yikes. I don't know. That is a bit of a yikes. I mean, obviously
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you guys didn't, you were, you started dating when you turned 18. Well, technically I was
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17, but almost 18, like really so close in New York at the time. Okay. There's no Romeo
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and Juliet law there. I don't think it was. Well, it's not even that, but I mean, I know
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certain, isn't the federal, uh, isn't at the federal level, the age of consent is 18, 18.
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I know some States it's like lower. It's still kind of like, that's still kind of, I don't
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know. Um, so who made the move? Actually me. Um, I was obsessed with him. Did you have
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like pictures of him in your room? I wish no, like a poster on the wall. No.
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Um, I was just obsessed with him. I would visit my best friend's house a lot and he
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would always be there. I called him hot brother. Um, cause my best friend has one hot brother
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and one ugly brother or well, sorry, sorry, Kyrie. Um, but yeah, I made the mood first.
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I, uh, got his Snapchat. I told him that I would guzzle a bucket of his juices and then he added
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me on Snapchat. What? Whoa, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I didn't use the word juices though.
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Is that like reverse grooming? Yes. How old were you? You said sperm or cum or something?
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Yeah. At, at 17. Yeah. And he's 25. He said, wait, he was eight years older. Wait, hold on.
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He was 18 when I was 11. Okay. Seven years older. So he's 24.
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Yikes. It's a bit of a yikes. I'm going to be honest. A little bit. Um, but okay. So then
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you start dating at. And you were in New York. Yeah. You were in New York. I moved him down to
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Florida with my family though. You moved him down. Was he homeless? Well, his mom kicked him out and
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he was kind of like in between. So I guess, yeah, kind of. Okay. Uh, well, I guess. How does your
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family feel about this? Oh, they love him. They love him so much. He's actually a really good guy.
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I understand. It sounds crazy, but hold on. So when you say you moved him to Florida, what do you
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mean? Um, well, he was kind of down. He didn't have a job. But had you already been dating or was
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this at the very forefront of the relationship? So this is literally like a week into it,
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week or two. Okay. Yeah. Cause New York. And I don't know if there's like some overarching
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like federal law or whatever, New York, the age of consent is 17 years old. However,
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the age of consent in Florida is 18 years old. And then further, it sounds like there were some,
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uh, digital exchanges, which across the board, uh, is illegal. Yes. That is probably a little,
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yeah, I think that's, it doesn't matter. You know, if you're sending like explicit content
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under the age of 18, that's major yikes. Okay. Um, but, and you're currently still in a relationship
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with this guy. So I left him for a while. I just recently took him back. Were you guys on and off
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again more than once? No. Oh wait. Um, for one month in like the beginning of our relationship,
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we broke up cause he cheated and then I got back together with him and I kind of, yeah,
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cheated a lot. How many women did he cheat? He effed one of my best friends and then there were like
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probably 10 other random ones. That's awesome. And you, did you cheat too? Oh yeah. Afterwards.
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Oh yeah. Like after he cheated. Yeah. After he cheated, I like made it my mission before your
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mission. Yeah. I made it my mission to cheat on him, which is so stupid. What a waste of time.
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Um, but before that, no, I was a good girl. I cheated on my boyfriends that weren't him before that,
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but not on him. Um, well, what else do you want to know? Wait, he's 32 now. Yeah. I had a question.
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And you're, he, you said his mom kicked him out. How did that? Why? Oh, um, he has a baby mother
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that isn't me and he left her and his mom didn't like that. Did he leave her for you? Um,
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we started talking after they broke up, but they were still kind of like, she was still living in
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his mom's house with him. So it was, uh, it was an interesting situation.
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Okay. Um, uh, did anybody want to weigh in on the, uh, I wouldn't even call an age gap because
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you're a minor technically. That's a different territory. Um, do you guys think a bit yikes?
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Oh yeah. Super, super yikes. Super. Or not that bad or fine. I think, uh, after a certain age,
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an age gap doesn't matter. But prior to that, it's, I'm, I'm speaking of this specific one,
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17. So she's not technically an adult. She's a minor and with a 24 year old, I think 24.
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Well, I would say it's a, it's a little, it's a little yikes, but you guys have stuck it through
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this whole time. So no more, no more. I have a question. I don't think there's, well, I don't
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think there's currently like your current age gap. That's fine. That's no problem. That's not an
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issue. Although it is a bit conf, look, I think it's yikes, but you were the pursuer. Oh yeah. Uh,
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so that adds another layer to the, the whole thing. Um, okay. Wow. Can I ask my question?
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Yeah. Do you, do you have a monogamy problem? Are you, do you like, or do you prefer like a
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polygamous relationship? Because if you guys are just like cheating on each other all the time,
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no, I actually really don't like cheating. I was doing it purely in revenge. I wouldn't do that now.
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Um, but when I was younger, it was a good idea to me to make him feel the way that he made me feel.
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Um, but I am monogamous, I think for myself. I would say in your wedding speech, um, from a gallon
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of your juice to saying, I do, I love you, you know, make sure to include that. I don't know how my
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grandparents would like that. Yeah. That, that initial message you sent him was that, uh,
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repeated again. Sorry. Um, I will guzzle a bucket of your cum. And was that your opening line? Yes.
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And it wasn't a message. It was like an audio. Like my best friend was on the phone
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and I said it on speaker to him. Like on a call, not like a voice recording. No,
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it was live. Yeah. Call live stream. Were you, were you sober? Yeah, I was sober.
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And it was, had you, I mean, you were like family friends or whatever. Like he was the friend of
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your brother, right? Or what? No, he's, uh, my best friend's brother. He's your, okay. So your
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best friend is a girl. My best friend's a boy, Kyle. Um, we grew up together. How old is your best
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Kyle? Same exact age as me. And you were crushing on the much older brother? Yeah. Not the best
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friend who's your same age. Yeah. I've always been like that though. I like older guys.
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At 11. I think that makes it so much weirder that he knew you as a kid and then. Oh yeah,
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I know. I think it's a big yikes. I think that's weird. Like. I think it's very yikes for him,
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but for you to be like, I don't know if it was like growing up, like at your age 17,
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saying that to him, you knew what you were doing. Like you knew your intentions, but for him to be
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at his age, that's very yikes for him, but it's still like a very poor situation to be in.
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Age doesn't matter to know like right from wrong. So at 11, that's kind of insane. Especially like
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the whole cheating aspect, like morality, that's terrible. Yeah. Well, she didn't have those thoughts
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at 11. At 11, I didn't say that. I said it when I was 17. At 11, it was a simple crush. Okay. Well,
00:25:43.420
cheating no matter the age is morality insane. My follow-up though is, so this was the brother of
00:25:49.960
your male best friend. Yes. And then how did this phone call, like had you not spoken to him for a
00:25:58.740
period of time? I had seen him in person a couple of times, but then I found out him and his girlfriend
00:26:04.540
broke up. So I just went full force ahead. Okay. So his girlfriend broke up, like how long had they
00:26:12.640
been dating? Like four years, four years. And then when you say, okay, so I guess two questions,
00:26:20.380
uh, prior to the phone call, when was the last time you had had any contact with the guy?
00:26:27.720
Um, maybe like two years it had been since I've seen him or talk to him or talk to him. Yeah. No,
00:26:36.600
no, like texting. No, nothing. I didn't have, this was like a, Hey, haven't spoken to you in
00:26:41.620
two years. Haven't seen you in two years, completely almost sounds like spontaneous, impromptu phone
00:26:47.820
conversation. And then, uh, house, how soon after the breakup with his four year girlfriend did this
00:26:56.620
phone call take place? The day of? Like a week. A week after. And your opening line was what again?
00:27:04.400
I'm going to guzzle a bucket of your cum. Hold on. What? Uh, excuse me? Not like, uh, Oh, Hey Jeff,
00:27:19.060
how's it going? How's it, how's it been? Like that was your first thing you said. I just kind of say
00:27:25.080
what comes to my brain. And that was what came. What was your best friend's reaction?
00:27:31.340
I don't think it was much of a reaction. I'm kind of like that a lot. Well, not like sexual like that,
00:27:35.200
but just like, he didn't have any problem at all with his older brother and someone who he's grown
00:27:41.740
up with known since he was a little kid. Like, no, he actually encouraged it. Cause then with your
00:27:46.860
parents in your life, both my parents in my life. Yes. They're both doctors. Do you think he's the one?
00:27:52.220
Um, I don't know if I believe in the one. I think so many people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we have three
00:28:03.120
kids together. So we have three children together. That's why I got back with him in the first place.
00:28:18.660
Uh, three boys. What are the names? Stefan, Jeremiah, and Leo.
00:28:30.000
Of them? Uh, just the years. Oh, 2019, 2020, and 2023.
00:28:35.300
Three. Hmm. How old are you again? I don't believe you. 25. I don't believe you. I think
00:28:44.640
you're trolling. I swear. Uh, do you have photos of them on your phone? I do. Yeah.
00:28:50.420
Okay. Yo, chat. Do you think she's lying? I think this is a troll. I think it's, I think
00:28:55.760
we're getting trolled right now. Um, so you have three kids. Yes. You're his second baby
00:29:05.460
mama? Yeah. He has one. But you don't think you're like a homewrecker? Um, a little bit.
00:29:12.180
I did feel, I've processed how horrible I handled things when I was 17 towards his baby mother,
00:29:19.140
and I have apologized since then. Um, homewrecker, I wouldn't consider it because I didn't have
00:29:26.020
any contact with him before they broke up, but it was a week after, so that is pretty
00:29:31.380
shitty, you know? And are you afraid it's gonna happen to you? It has happened to me like
00:29:35.780
20 times over. Is he white? He's black. So wait, you were how old when you had the first
00:29:43.860
kid or when you got like? I was 18. And you got pregnant also 18? I think I had just turned
00:29:53.060
18. I had him in, uh, March of 2019, my first baby. Um, my birthday is July. So 2019, I turned
00:30:02.360
19 in July. So I was 18 when I had him. I might've been 17 when I got pregnant with him. I'm not
00:30:09.120
sure. Did the other baby mama have the kids around the same time you had your kids? Like
00:30:16.240
was it close together or even at the same time? Her, um, her daughter was three or four. Has
00:30:23.360
he had any other kids with any other women since then? No, not that I know of. Have you ever
00:30:30.760
been married? No. Uh, in your pre-show notes, it says you left your husband. Oh, I just call
00:30:38.340
him that. I left my, we were engaged. It was fiance at 17. Yeah. You said you left him
00:30:46.140
for another man after you cheated on him for years. Yeah. And you've cheated since. Yes.
00:30:52.200
Well, not on him and been a horrible girlfriend in every type of way. Yes. And your kids are
00:30:58.700
going to see that. I think in order to better yourself, you have to be bad at whatever you're
00:31:06.320
doing. So I think by me being a shitty girlfriend, it built me to where I can make myself into
00:31:13.380
a good girlfriend. Uh-huh. You speak as if like you're okay with your actions. I don't
00:31:18.920
think I'm okay or I'm not okay with my actions. I just don't want to hide my actions because
00:31:23.560
people's past are important. What do you do now that is different than what you used to
00:31:27.740
do? Like what do you do better now than what you used to do? I don't cheat. Um, that's pretty
00:31:34.560
much the only problem I had before really. So you like cater to your boyfriend or anything?
00:31:39.180
Like what do you do besides just being there? I cook and clean, I guess, if that's what you're
00:31:45.100
talking about. I mean, hold on. He also cheated on you. So it's like, it's not a one sided
00:31:49.260
thing. Like how has he improved? He cheated on me so many times. I don't, I'm honestly not
00:31:55.220
even sure if he has improved. I'm kind of just giving him the benefit of the doubt. Um, it's
00:32:01.560
a sticky situation when you have children together and I feel like that influenced me
00:32:07.300
to take him back a lot. Um, were the other two, um, I hate to use the word accidents or
00:32:15.340
intentional? So the first two were accidents. I had an IUD in, um, and it migrated. So I
00:32:24.660
got pregnant. Wow. And then my most recent baby, my two year old, he was not an accident.
00:32:29.660
He was planned. Do you think I'm just a little, sorry. I'm just a little confused. Cause I thought
00:32:34.500
Brian just said in your thing, it said you still cheat to this day. No, it said that
00:32:41.420
I thought I've cheated. Yeah. You wrote, you've cheated since. Yeah. Not to this day. So how are,
00:32:48.880
how does that make you a better person still though? Now, if you have cheated since though,
00:32:53.780
because I didn't learn from that time cheating on him. So it took me two relationships after that
00:33:01.440
where I cheated on them to realize that's really fucked up and I shouldn't be doing that. Just
00:33:08.020
here, uh, here, here, here's what I want to do just so I'm not lingering on this too long.
00:33:13.000
You guys, you guys talk about this for two minutes here, get up, show me the photos. Okay.
00:33:20.700
Are my kids? Yeah. Okay. Let's verify. What I want to know is the root of the cheating. Like
00:33:27.660
cheating just doesn't happen. There's a root. So I don't know. Yeah. Just being like a terrible
00:33:32.920
person. What do you mean? If you're with someone you truly love, then you just have no desire to
00:33:36.780
want to cheat. Like you just have no desire for anyone else. Honestly, something might make sense.
00:33:42.060
I'm trying to put two plus two together. So if she was born in July, is that cancer? Because if
00:33:47.720
that's cancer, that's cancer. I don't do any of those. It has to do with cheating on your
00:33:51.700
partner. Yeah. That's a morality problem. You need to go on. I feel like that's, that's
00:33:56.240
cancer. I think with the reverse grooming, there's already something like. It has nothing
00:34:01.400
to do with. I think the age and the maturity are like, sorry, but it doesn't have anything
00:34:06.920
to do with being groomed. You can be assaulted. You can be groomed and you can still be a good
00:34:11.720
person. Oh yeah. 11 year old is attracted to an 18 year old. Usually when that is the case,
00:34:16.380
that means there was some sort of like. I had crushes on older guys. In early childhood,
00:34:20.420
whether that be physical, sexual, emotional. I think it's normal to like see someone like,
00:34:24.400
oh, they're attractive when you're younger. Cause like we're used to like that, but it's
00:34:28.620
pursuing it later. That person knows you as a child. That's creepy. There's definitely a morality line.
00:34:35.960
It doesn't have to be abuse either. Cause some people are just messed up in their heads.
00:34:39.460
Okay. But at that point, like that's mental. What if they met like well into her twenties,
00:34:44.940
you guys still would do the math and you're like, oh, technically if you guys met.
00:34:49.020
They don't know her as a child. Yeah. You meet somebody as a 20 year old. No,
00:34:52.600
I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying like at a certain point, we kind of no longer worry about
00:34:58.480
the age gap. And it's like, I put it this way. We have a legal age limit for that in this country.
00:35:04.680
It's 18. You know what I mean? So it's just a little different when you know someone at an
00:35:09.820
adolescent age, prepubescent age. And then you, there's just, it's just a line. I think you should
00:35:16.320
have been a little bit more cautious with her, with knowing that she. Well, everyone around her
00:35:22.180
seems to approve of it, family included. So maybe she has daddy issues. She said her parents are both
00:35:29.160
doctors. I mean, that doesn't mean she doesn't have daddy issues, but it doesn't seem like her
00:35:33.320
parents are like losers or something. It seems like they provided her. It seems like they provided
00:35:39.320
her. I mean, it's not like you had a lack of resources. I have a question for you. Yes. Do
00:35:46.820
you think that you guys will ever actually repair your trust to each other and be loyal to each other
00:35:51.420
fully? I will never trust him as for his trust for me. I really, how can you have love when you have
00:35:59.320
no trust? Um, it's more like a familial love, like, uh, like he's been around so long that I've
00:36:11.220
developed, like, would you say that it's more of like a comfort thing? Yeah, absolutely. Probably
00:36:16.100
used to him. Like, so what is the point in living your life in comfortability? Like that's just seems
00:36:23.180
off. Um, you just, you're just going to be miserable. I'm not miserable though. I, I've been
00:36:32.360
cheated on by other people since then as well. And I'm just not really as worried as I used to be
00:36:39.480
when I was a teenager. Do you think that you're setting a good example for your children by staying
00:36:43.780
with a man that's consistently cheated on you and shown that he doesn't respect you? Do you think
00:36:47.720
that your boys will grow up respecting women if they've seen the way that his father treats their
00:36:52.380
mother? I think they will respect women based on what they see from their father. But what they've
00:37:01.580
seen has been cheating and it's been consistent throughout your entire relationship. They don't
00:37:05.880
know any of that. Not yet, but they're, they will come to that age where they will understand that.
00:37:10.560
Eventually. And then all of their roots will be laid down. They're not going to just one day be like,
00:37:17.400
oh, my mom, I'm finding out my mom got cheated on. Better go disrespect women.
00:37:23.340
Well, it's the fact that they see that he cheated on you and you decided to stay. So they're like,
00:37:27.980
oh, if I go cheat on my girlfriend, then maybe they'll stay.
00:37:31.340
Maybe. Well, yeah. And then that's their, that might, that's terrible. Why would you want to raise
00:37:35.740
people like that? Yo, Jay, thank you for the, um, merch purchase. Also, Dane, thank you for the 10 on
00:37:40.160
Venmo. Craig, thank you for the 20 on cash app. So I did verify, uh, you know, it wasn't,
00:37:47.240
you know, it wasn't some FBI verification, but, uh, it's either the most elaborate troll ever,
00:37:53.880
but she has photos with her and her children that are dated on the phone into like 2023, 2022.
00:38:01.720
2022. So I have to rule out that she generated these photos in like AI or chat GPT. It's possible
00:38:09.360
you can do some things with the like XF data or whatever to change the date of photos. So it's
00:38:15.760
either the most elaborate troll ever, but I'm going to go ahead. And I mean, based off what she showed
00:38:20.060
me on her phone, she showed me photos of the, you know, the, the kids are legit there. She does have
00:38:26.440
a black boyfriend, mixed race kids. I mean, this is either the most elaborate shit ever. So I'm,
00:38:33.520
it's legit. She's just brutally honest. So I, I mean, I'll congratulate her for, for that. It did
00:38:39.720
come off like a troll though. I do have to say, but I did verify it and it is, uh, to my knowledge,
00:38:46.520
legitimate. So, okay. Wow. That's quite a story. Um, off to a good start. I'd say anyways,
00:38:54.580
we'll come back to some of that stuff later. We're going to get the rest of the, uh, relationship
00:38:58.780
statuses, uh, relationship status. I'm single for life, but I mean, okay. I had a lot of like very
00:39:08.340
short term relationships, but I never, I mean, I am fairly young, I gotta say, but so I kind of didn't
00:39:16.160
have time to actually like be with someone for like a long, like five years or whatever. But I just
00:39:22.380
feel like I had like all of my relationships were three months, four months, two months, and
00:39:28.000
I've never, or maybe the person never managed to keep me. I never managed to keep a person around
00:39:36.260
me. I don't know why. They never managed to keep you or you never managed to keep them? That's what
00:39:40.660
I'm trying to find out. I don't know. Yeah. Well, you said you've had many short term. Is that what you
00:39:45.320
said? Yeah. Short term. What's the longest period of time that you've been with somebody?
00:39:51.460
Okay. I need a moment to think. Um, probably four months. Four months. And you're currently single?
00:40:04.960
There's like three guys in the picture. Three guys? Okay. No. Hey, we-
00:40:09.160
I'm very double-sided for this because I was just-
00:40:11.320
We appreciate the honesty. You said, okay, so three guys in the picture. Uh, what does,
00:40:16.340
what does that mean? Um, okay. Um, three guys in the picture.
00:40:23.420
One of them is currently in New York, but he likes me a lot more than I like him.
00:40:30.820
And he wants to like, he's, he was trying to move to LA to be around me because he was like,
00:40:37.660
oh, I like LA. Let me move to you or stuff like that. But I was like, um, don't be so serious
00:40:43.580
because I don't like you. And I had like false. Wait, wait, wait. You said, what? You said,
00:40:50.160
you don't like, you said, I don't like you to him. Yeah. I, okay. So I had a sense of feeling that
00:40:56.400
I did like him, but then I think that was the first time we met, but that was like last year.
00:41:03.140
Yeah. And we met for only one day and we like, because I don't live in New York. We just, I flew
00:41:08.460
there. He flew you there? No, I flew there to meet him or for something else for something else. I
00:41:14.320
think it was just a second. How did you guys meet? I just needed a place to stay. No, but how did you
00:41:19.820
meet like on a dating app or yeah? Dating update. Yeah. Hinge? No, it's like, um, Raya tender. No. Oh,
00:41:28.260
I don't use tender. Russian. I don't think. Yeah. It's like a, yeah. Telegram. Telegram.
00:41:34.140
Exactly. So he's Russian. Yeah. Oh, it's like a Russian dating app for spies. Um, creepy. So wait,
00:41:43.280
okay. So there's three guys in the picture though. Yeah. Three. Is it more four or five? How big is
00:41:49.740
a roster? How about that? Huge. Huge. Okay. Uh, what is, I mean, it's just like, I feel
00:41:58.560
like a lot of mixed signals. Like I, I, yeah. I mean, look, you, you just, you're new in
00:42:06.460
LA young. You're a actress model singer. I, okay. My main thing is a music artist. A lot
00:42:12.880
of people see me as a model. So I model like a little bit. Okay. Do these guys know that
00:42:18.240
they're on a roster? Are you honest with them? No, they, I think she's honest with
00:42:24.200
us though. And that's what matters, you know, screw the guy, but she's being honest
00:42:28.640
with us. That's what matters here. Um, so how big is the roster? 10 guys? Um, I have
00:42:34.320
to count, but okay. Are they going to watch this? Hold on. They might.
00:42:48.240
Probably like at least eight. Okay. At least eight. And then there's three that are in the
00:42:55.900
picture. Like the main picture, not the background. Okay. And are you're like, you're hooking up
00:43:01.780
with them? Well, the three, I wouldn't say it's like that serious. I mean, I can't, well,
00:43:10.220
I'm not saying it's serious, but you're, you are hooking up. Well, okay. Yeah. Having
00:43:14.660
sex. Honestly, no. With two of them? No. One of them? No. So you're not having sex with
00:43:25.940
anybody? No. But you have three guys in the picture and the roster of it. So what you're
00:43:32.600
just doing what then? I, I think, okay. Because I think I mentioned the mixed signals. Like
00:43:39.940
I think I like someone and then I start to speak to them and then I'm like, okay, no. And
00:43:46.320
then I move on to the next person. I'm also noticing something that I don't like about them
00:43:52.200
and I just can't stop. Like, I, I just have to stop. And, but they're already like into
00:43:58.820
me and I can't like get rid of them. What do you mean you can't get rid of them? Oh, uh,
00:44:05.760
Hey, Hey, it was, uh, it was really nice to meet you, but you know, I, I'm just not sure
00:44:10.240
if it's the right fit. Uh, I hope you, I wish you the best in what you're looking for.
00:44:15.400
That's it. That's all you have to say. I think I'm too insecure to like actually go
00:44:18.740
out like that and be like, Hey, you know what? Okay. All of this, it doesn't matter to me,
00:44:24.440
you know, like, bye. I can't, I like, I don't know. You don't say that, but you say, well,
00:44:27.760
that essentially what I say, Hey, listen, it was really nice meeting you. You seem like a great
00:44:31.640
person, but I don't, I just don't think it's the right fit. Um, I wish you good luck in what
00:44:35.940
you're looking for. That's in essence. That's what I, I would say. Like when I was like 14,
00:44:43.560
that's what I was. So you were more mature at 14 than you are currently. So what do you just
00:44:49.580
keep them? You string them along now, 14 communication. Hey, the Russians, you give
00:44:56.920
communication, the Americans, you string them along in your Russian honey, honeypot essentially.
00:45:03.680
Um, but okay. So, uh, the three guys who are in the picture, are any of them living in LA?
00:45:09.960
Oh yeah. Okay. And how long have they been in the picture for? Um, one of them has been in the
00:45:17.720
picture for two years. The other one has been in the picture for like half a year, maybe like six
00:45:26.900
months. Yeah. And the third one's been in the picture for three, three years. Which one's the
00:45:34.660
New York guy? The New York guy is the one that has been in the picture for a year. Wait, so you said
00:45:39.720
one year, half a year and three years? Yeah. And you all met them on dating apps? No, actually no.
00:45:47.600
How old are the guys? Um, I don't know. Hold on. I think one of them was, how old is he? Okay.
00:45:55.820
The one from New York is 23. They're not watching this. Okay. Um, the one from LA, also 23. And the
00:46:07.780
one who, who's the, who's known me for three years is, uh, 31. And how old are you again?
00:46:18.020
She's 18. Okay. So at 15, geez. Oh my God. Yikes. Uh, how did, but you were living in Arizona
00:46:27.980
how did a 20 at the time, I suppose he would have been what? 28. How does a 28 year old mean a 15 year
00:46:38.080
old living with her Russian parents in Arizona as a new immigrant?
00:46:42.200
Actually very weird. Okay. I was living in Arizona, but I used to fly to LA just to, I was trying to
00:46:50.740
like get, probably like get into the industry. So I was like flying back and forth. I mean,
00:46:55.980
Tucson's kind of close in like an hour flight. Yeah. It's a short flight. So just like do gigs here,
00:47:00.760
fly back and forth, um, work in LA and then fly back to Arizona, then work in LA and fly back to
00:47:06.740
Arizona. And we kind of met through, I think it was like an acting gig. Okay. Yeah. And so wait,
00:47:17.240
and just remind me, there's a one year guy, a six month guy and a three year guy. Yeah. Okay. And you
00:47:26.560
haven't had sex with any of them? No, I, I, no, I stay away from people kind of. Wait,
00:47:34.220
so yes, you have had sex with them. No, no. I'm, I'm like avoidant. Like I avoidant. Yeah. Like
00:47:41.160
so you've been, how often would you say you see these guys? Um, do you live with one of them?
00:47:49.740
No, not anymore. You were living with one in LA. I used to live with one in LA and one in New York.
00:47:57.780
So they would, the New York guy would fly you out. No, he wouldn't fly me out, but I would just say it
00:48:02.900
would be convenient because I would have a place to stay. So you would pay for your own flights
00:48:06.660
out to New York, unless you had a gig and the company paid for it. Yeah. Okay. So,
00:48:14.360
um, I'm trying to get a, a read on this. So you've had, not to mention the other men on your roster,
00:48:26.380
some of which I assume have come and gone. So at other points, maybe you had different men on the
00:48:30.820
roster, but currently the roster stands at eight. There's three guys in the picture. You've been
00:48:35.140
with three, uh, well, one of them for six months, one of them for a year, one of them for three
00:48:40.080
years. Uh, and you haven't had sex with any of them. Uh, what are they, what exactly, I guess,
00:48:50.940
what are they getting out of the relationship? I, I'm trying to, I don't know. Like, I, I guess I'm
00:48:59.180
just a nice person to be around. Yeah. But I mean, I mean, look, you're an attractive gal and I mean,
00:49:05.260
you seem pleasant, although, uh, pleasantness kind of dissipates quite quickly. If your attention is
00:49:14.460
shared, unless they're cucks, which I'm going to assume is the case because no man who's, I mean,
00:49:20.900
well, it's actually can be quite shocking what men are when they have forsaken all standards will do,
00:49:30.480
but, uh, no man should really be tolerating and dating a girl for this period of time.
00:49:36.840
And she's not exclusive to him. Hey, you're not having sex. That's okay. But you're not exclusive.
00:49:41.780
What are these guys even getting? They're just paying for your shit.
00:49:46.620
Um, well, honestly, it's more like, I don't know, for me, they feel like friends and they take it
00:49:54.900
like too serious because I just think everyone takes me too serious, but I can't be serious. I just,
00:50:01.280
I just can't make myself be serious with someone. I feel like I'm focused more on like, I don't know,
00:50:07.280
career, music. And I can't like force my whole attention on a person and like on a guy. Like
00:50:14.340
he's like, Oh, you know, like, let's do this, do that. I'm like, I, I don't know. I cannot.
00:50:20.140
Do you feel like it's more entertainment for all parties? Like you're just kind of hanging out,
00:50:26.120
you're just like, whatever, and not an actual relationship? Or are these like actual
00:50:32.040
relationships? Do these guys think that they're in an actual relationship with you?
00:50:37.180
I, okay. They think they are in their actual relationship, but I don't trust them.
00:50:44.440
So you didn't necessarily establish what they're going to get out of this at the start. Like you
00:50:50.640
say at this, when you meet them, you're like, Hey, I'm not interested in this or that. I'm just
00:50:55.700
trying to do me or whatever. Have you like ever had that conversation? I never stated that because
00:51:03.700
I'm not clear with myself or like, I can't scan myself and say, okay, you know, like I, I know
00:51:08.400
that I'm not going to be paying attention to you. So bye. That's also not an option because I never
00:51:13.980
know. Maybe someone comes around and I like feel something and I'm like, wow, okay, let's date.
00:51:19.920
Are they aware that you're dating other men? No. So wait, wait, hold on. Are you telling them that
00:51:28.540
you're boyfriend, girlfriend to the guys, the three guys or whatever? Yeah. I mean, two, two of them.
00:51:40.260
Do you guys kiss? Do you guys do anything? We kiss. Yeah. We kiss. I do want to say there are men
00:51:46.200
out there that are open to a polygamist relationship and you can be honest with them
00:51:51.900
and just have that if that's what you want instead of lying. Because in general, I think that like we
00:51:59.940
attract who we are. And so you're only going to keep attracting people that are also like probably
00:52:04.820
lying to you about something. And at the end of the day, it can end up putting you in a bad space.
00:52:10.680
Honestly, that made sense. I have to think about that because I, I think I just have like huge
00:52:20.280
trust issues. Like I cannot, like I can have a person like around me, but I could never let them
00:52:26.440
like actually, I don't know, like if they want to have sex with me, it's a, it's a whole different
00:52:32.480
thing. Like I'm going to look at them from a different aspect and I'm going to probably like
00:52:39.060
give them time or just wait. I mean, do you have, do you have sex with any of these guys?
00:52:45.780
Not recently. I mean, no. Well, okay. So there's the three guys. Have you, maybe you're not having
00:52:53.520
sex with them currently, which is curious, but have you had sex with them at some point?
00:52:59.060
Not with those. Not with the three, but then men who are transient on your roster,
00:53:06.080
you have had sex with? Yeah. So just to be clear, the men who are, seem most serious about you,
00:53:16.000
who have been with you despite your divided attention for six months, one year, three years,
00:53:21.900
they don't get sex, but there are men who just get it instantly or quick. Is that mine?
00:53:30.860
Honestly? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. That sounds like, like, have you had a, like with a, have you had a
00:53:35.900
hookup with like a hot dude or something? Yeah. Hookups in LA with hot guys, celebrities? Yeah.
00:53:42.360
Okay. Honestly, no, not, not in like, I had one in Vegas, but not in. With a celebrity or just a guy
00:53:53.560
who was hot? He's not so much of a, well, maybe like a partial celebrity. I don't know how to like
00:54:01.360
think of it. Athlete, musician, actor, YouTuber, creator, musician, musician, rapper. Kind of. Yeah.
00:54:09.240
Yeah. Hold on. Let me play this. Sorry for the delay, Matt. And then we'll get right back into it.
00:54:13.680
Metro Matt donated $200. FBI and CIA rubbing their hands together watching this show.
00:54:20.660
Chair 2, how have you only lived in the U.S. two years but known someone for three?
00:54:28.760
Wait, so just for the timeline, as a reminder, you moved to the United States when you were 16?
00:54:36.960
Let's do the math. So I'm 18, but my birthday is in three, two and a half months, so I'm almost 19.
00:54:45.400
Hold on. That means I made a mistake in my, all right, I moved. Okay, let's be clear, everyone.
00:55:16.440
Is this, like, legit? Or are you just making this shit up?
00:55:32.840
these guys you allege have been dating you for a year, three years, six months,
00:55:43.400
that they, are you, uh, have you told them that you're a virgin?
00:55:53.880
No, but have you told them that? Like, you know?
00:56:04.800
Damn. Okay. All right. Uh, well, uh, I'll have some further thoughts on that in a moment,
00:56:10.340
but first I want to let everybody else introduce their, or share their relationship status.
00:56:33.420
So, um, the ultimate, like, off period was done by me, though.
00:56:39.360
So, you've been single for two years. Any guys in the picture?
00:56:54.060
Like, literally very beginning. Like, a week-ish.
00:56:58.740
We've been talking for more than a week as friends,
00:57:01.620
but we've been, like, talking to be more than friends for a week.
00:57:31.760
I live in Jersey, and he couldn't, he didn't have enough patience to wait for me to save up a little bit more so that I could move to Massachusetts with him.
00:57:44.040
And, uh, there were, I think, like, us being freelancers in the film and TV industry, it's being tough right now.
00:57:52.320
I, I think he kind of took his frustrations out of struggling with work out on our relationship, and, um, he just didn't want to step out of his comfort zone.
00:58:12.220
It's been a little tough, uh, just because I'm, I'm trying to move on.
00:58:24.000
Yeah, I made it clear from the get-go that I'm not looking for anything.
00:58:31.940
We've been married for two years, together for three.
00:58:43.160
I am single, as a Pringle, and, um, I've been single for almost two years.
00:58:57.260
No, it was my first ever relationship, was two and a half years.
00:59:15.140
Any guys in the picture since or in that time period?
00:59:19.820
I've kind of chit-chatted, hung out with guys, um, short fling, seeing if it works.
00:59:27.900
Um, I was with a guy not really in a full-on relationship, um, whenever, I was living in
00:59:35.440
Southeast Asia and we split and ended up, we knew it wasn't going to be a relationship
00:59:39.800
relationship because we were both, uh, expats in Bali and then we were splitting, going
00:59:46.800
But we hung out, really liked each other and it was really good.
00:59:49.300
And then I recently was talking to someone for about a month or so and we went on a very
00:59:56.960
long date and then come to find out it just personality wise and kind of what we wanted
01:00:16.960
I ended up spending, uh, Thanksgiving with his family and also his dad's birthday with
01:00:33.840
And, uh, yeah, he's a couple of years older than me.
01:00:38.540
Um, but we got a hotel like Airbnb situation and we stayed there.
01:00:44.200
I, this was on my tour from, I was driving from Texas to LA, just moved to LA and I stopped
01:00:51.340
in Vegas to visit him and we were supposed to just go on a date and then it was okay.
01:00:58.660
And then it was just kept on adding and adding and adding.
01:01:02.220
Um, and I didn't have anywhere to go for Thanksgiving.
01:01:06.220
So we just extended for me to spend Thanksgiving with his family.
01:01:10.720
And, um, basically at the end of it, um, yeah, I just didn't, I didn't feel the, oh my God,
01:01:17.760
I'm obsessed to see you like I did whenever we were talking over the phone and I'd met
01:01:23.060
He had hired me as a photographer that I worked with and I'm friends with a sister and it's
01:01:30.360
Wait, you, so when you first were speaking to him on the phone, you guys met on the dating
01:01:36.120
So he, so I've known him and his sister, his sister is a model and a makeup artist and
01:01:42.980
We met on a shoot about three years ago and then he'd hired me whenever I toured LA and
01:01:48.560
then I met him again on another shoot that his sister was doing my hair and makeup for.
01:01:54.840
Um, and he was there shooting and learning from the photographer that was shooting us.
01:01:58.900
And, um, we just like seemed to really click in that moment.
01:02:01.800
But whenever we spent 11 days together, we were not clicking, not clicking.
01:02:11.020
You said when you spoke to him on the phone, you, at that point in that moment, you, you
01:02:17.520
So we were, uh, so, okay, let me back up a little bit, give you some more details here.
01:02:31.800
Um, my mom makes fun of me for doing that as well.
01:02:34.880
So, um, I'll have to let her know that someone else did that.
01:02:40.340
So October 6th, um, we saw each other at a shoot again and we had been just kind of like
01:02:45.620
chit chatty back and forth on Instagram a little bit.
01:02:51.880
And so I was joking with him about like, okay, you have to make me laugh all day on set.
01:02:59.260
And then I was like, I think I have a crush on you.
01:03:09.060
And, um, I was like, okay, but I'm really good friends with your sister.
01:03:11.840
I have to ask your sister first if like, this is okay.
01:03:16.000
And so I texted her and she was like, oh my gosh, I ship you two.
01:03:18.920
Because I know that if you end up not really liking him or something that you'll tell him
01:03:24.220
So I'm, I'm a very transparent person and she knows that.
01:03:29.540
So for a month before we got to, we scheduled out our date a month ahead.
01:03:33.840
And so we were just talking on the phone until I got to Vegas.
01:03:41.340
And so we thought it was a really good match because of this.
01:03:52.200
Well, you texted and how often would you like multiple texts per day?
01:03:56.900
How often would you speak on, or how long would you speak on the phone for?
01:04:00.120
Um, sometimes just a couple minutes and sometimes like an hour or two, depending.
01:04:06.620
No, we didn't talk on the phone, physically pick up the phone and call every day.
01:04:12.400
But you did have, you'd, didn't you say you spoke on the phone every day?
01:04:28.900
And we were both like super excited and we seemed like it was going to be great.
01:04:31.520
We also wrote letters to each other, physical letters to each other, which was adorable
01:04:44.560
They don't, I don't think they still teach it, but yes.
01:05:02.160
It was a lot of work and we were both very excited.
01:05:05.020
Can I ask the panel a question really quick and I'll let you finish your story, but I don't
01:05:17.320
I don't think I'd even want to talk to her as frequently.
01:05:19.540
Like I could, this could be like the girl of my dreams and I'd still be like, ah, get
01:05:25.820
You know, I don't know if that makes me a bad person, but like I need a bit of space.
01:05:31.100
Like even if I really liked the girl, like I'm not going to be all up on her like that.
01:05:38.200
My husband and I, when we started talking, we really only talked like every third day.
01:05:43.080
Like we just, I'm horrible at answering and texting and you know.
01:05:53.680
I like the girl to respond immediately to me, but she needs to give me 72 hours.
01:06:01.180
I don't think you can expect a woman to simp for you, but also like only text them once
01:06:08.740
A simpy woman is going to obsess with you, right?
01:06:18.000
I don't want like stock or obsessed, but I want like, oh yeah, I got you.
01:06:26.320
But anyway, sorry, not to make it about me, but your story, your story.
01:06:32.420
So then you go on the, you, you meet them and then 11 days, 11 days.
01:06:40.360
And I think what happened was there was just a lot of buildup to this.
01:06:43.520
There was a lot of excitement for whatever reason.
01:06:47.680
So there was a lot of, you know, daydreaming going on.
01:06:50.760
And I'm, I'm a romantic and I watch a lot of Hallmark movies.
01:06:54.620
Um, Oh, you saw me, you saw me going for the screen deck.
01:07:07.380
Um, so yeah, I think that there was just a way too much.
01:07:13.340
And in person, like he, I guess I'm typically that way.
01:07:22.300
I'm not going to text you every day, all day long.
01:07:25.260
So I thought that was a good sign, but in person, I'm not really like that in person.
01:07:29.920
I'm very much like, okay, don't you have something else to go do?
01:07:35.460
And, um, so he, he didn't have something else to go do.
01:07:44.740
And he didn't really like that because he actually is like that, um, wants to be that
01:08:00.180
And I'm like spending Thanksgiving with his family, but his family was really sweet.
01:08:03.860
And like, yeah, there was just, it was, you had to meet the parents.
01:08:07.740
That should be like three years in meeting the parents.
01:08:16.300
I want, that needs to be delayed as long as possible.
01:08:26.720
But it seems like you were the one who needed a bit of space.
01:08:59.040
Well, no, I think it was a bad idea for our dynamic.
01:09:01.280
Because what we should have done is have more conversation.
01:09:07.640
But day one, we should have had more conversation.
01:09:09.900
Because what ended up happening is day, like, two and a half.
01:09:14.180
We, like, could not have a conversation in person.
01:09:21.300
So, he was driving me to the med spa where they had my skin care.
01:09:31.380
Like, I feel like I've been here for, you know, two and a half days already.
01:09:42.280
But, like, getting into the personal nitty-gritty just wasn't happening.
01:09:46.620
Maybe your expectations were too high because of all the communicating and all the kind of obsession beforehand.
01:09:56.880
When it happens on day one, don't you feel like it's not going to be real after that?
01:10:20.720
And we'd been talking for about a month by the time I got there.
01:10:24.720
And I think if you're two consenting adults and, you know, you're decently stable in the head, you understand that, like, okay, you can do that.
01:10:32.560
And it doesn't mean that there's going to be any repercussions as whenever I was dating and I was younger than, like, sex off the bat, yes.
01:10:39.460
Or, like, first night, first day that I meet you.
01:10:41.540
Like, yeah, I don't think that's necessarily going to go anywhere.
01:10:46.520
My friends Savannah and Dylan, shout out, you guys.
01:10:53.300
And, um, they've been together two and a half years and they're about to buy a house together.
01:11:04.080
I think maybe four or five days after that we did again.
01:11:18.600
But so the second day y'all were driving in the car and it was silent.
01:11:33.680
It was that at dinner, uh, while we were hanging out in the apartment while we were driving,
01:11:38.740
while we were sitting and having coffee, all of these things, like the conversation just
01:11:44.940
And that tells me that something's off or also what I broke down is he was extremely
01:11:52.400
And so I think that that kind of that personality difference wasn't meshing very well.
01:12:06.640
It was like, we were sitting there and it was, the silence was awkward.
01:12:14.540
Like when you brought up, Hey, there's a problem.
01:12:19.720
Did, was he like, Oh no, I think everything's fine.
01:12:26.360
And that was the second day you guys had that convo?
01:12:30.720
Then you proceeded to hang out for another nine days.
01:12:34.240
The hotel was already booked or the Airbnb or whatever.
01:12:40.760
So it's like the hotel, Airbnb apartment thing.
01:12:53.420
I think the, you know, 48 hours, the first, like maybe, you know, there was some distance,
01:13:03.340
Well, like you guys didn't live in the same city, right?
01:13:07.660
So I was living in Texas and then my tour from Texas to LA, cause I drove was a month, nearly
01:13:16.540
So I stopped in other major cities, um, and booked work with clients and stuff for like
01:13:21.300
the last time that I was going to be there for a while.
01:13:23.180
And then drove to, yeah, I think you got to, for that first one, that first one, like if
01:13:30.840
you guys are in different cities, 11 days, that's a, that's a commitment.
01:13:41.440
And then if it's really good, then maybe you can go for a week, 11 days on the first
01:13:48.200
It wasn't, it wasn't the initial plan, but it's what happened.
01:13:51.920
And I, I think in the end it was good because we realized that after 11 days, we still were
01:13:56.940
like not really clicking the way that we should have been.
01:14:00.760
Um, so we were able to kind of end it after that.
01:14:04.460
I did go on, um, I, uh, a client flew me to Vegas for work, for booking.
01:14:11.440
And we went on one more date, a second date, a regular date.
01:14:14.400
I told him the regular date this time, just like go out to dinner, like normal people.
01:14:19.520
And he took me to a really nice spot and we had a delicious dinner and then still it was
01:14:24.920
So we decided that we're just not going to go on another date.
01:14:27.680
After the, this was a separate trip after the 11 days in a row.
01:14:39.860
Was he more talkative like the first day before you had sex or was it just silent as
01:14:46.740
He was more talkative in general over the phone.
01:15:02.420
Oh, I think it was like a year and a half coming on two years.
01:15:21.520
I've had like talking stages since then, but they've all failed.
01:15:27.160
Is there currently a talking stage situation ship?
01:15:32.620
When's the most recent there's been anything in the picture?
01:15:44.200
So we were talking, we were just like texting back and forth for a couple weeks and then
01:15:50.200
I actually saw him in Utah and he decided that I wasn't what he wanted because I wasn't
01:16:02.040
You're a Mormon, although you don't like that term anymore.
01:16:08.600
I heard they don't like the Mormon term anymore.
01:16:34.040
He didn't want to date me because I was an active member of the church.
01:16:48.000
And he didn't want to date you because you weren't Mormon.
01:16:50.980
Well, I think, I don't think it was that reason.
01:16:53.180
I don't think he was like completely honest with me maybe because he first started with,
01:17:26.540
How does your Christianity inform your relationship pursuits?
01:17:35.860
I don't want to talk about my body on a podcast.
01:17:40.380
You don't want, well, it's not about your body necessarily.
01:17:42.860
It would be past behavior, but I'll take that as a no then.
01:17:49.560
How long have you been waiting until marriage for?
01:17:52.360
This isn't, I'm sorry, but this is not something that I.
01:17:56.600
Yeah, this is just one circumstance that I don't want to talk about.
01:17:59.900
Because as a godly woman, I don't think that talking about my body like that on a podcast is glorifying God in any way.
01:18:13.940
But when it comes to, I mean, we, in the Bible, it talks about how our bodies are temples.
01:18:18.560
And so you shouldn't be, like, I just shouldn't be talking about that for hundreds of thousands of people to hear.
01:18:25.360
Well, I don't think that there would be any actual Christian, I understand, like, by the way, you don't have to share if you don't want to.
01:18:32.200
But I don't think there's anything, biblically speaking, or that would preclude or prevent a Christian woman, aside from her own preference, of course, which is valid.
01:18:43.160
But there's no Christian component to not sharing that.
01:18:51.640
I think it's completely inappropriate and unclassy for a woman to talk about their, people, like, people they've had sex with, if they're a virgin or not.
01:19:09.400
I mean, like, what's your point, like, from what you stated, because that's like, I mean, we speak a lot about that.
01:19:15.940
I was just like, I think she was like, did you know what you were going, going, going into signing up for this?
01:19:21.840
Yeah, it doesn't make me uncomfortable with you guys talking about it.
01:19:27.240
I mean, you obviously you, if you don't have, by the way, you don't have to like speak about specific sex acts.
01:19:33.080
But I don't think, for example, even on a podcast, even in public, a Christian woman saying whether or not she's a virgin and leaving at that, I don't need to know sexual graphic details, but just simply stating whether you're a virgin or not.
01:19:51.080
I don't think that this would be in any sort at all in contravention of Christian ethics or Christian morality.
01:20:01.500
Because I think that when it comes to your body talking about if you're a virgin or not, or if you're waiting for marriage or not, I think that's completely between you and God and your husband or wife, not between you and everybody else on this planet.
01:20:17.840
Um, so is this something you would discuss with a boyfriend then who might be asking these questions from you?
01:20:26.660
Would you, let's say you were going to go on a date with a guy.
01:20:33.440
I mean, if it's a pressing matter, then, then yes.
01:20:36.700
But I wouldn't say that I'm going on dates with men that are asking me those questions.
01:20:43.540
Wouldn't it be perfectly within, from your own worldview and your own Christian belief set, for a Christian man to desire to date a virgin woman?
01:20:53.400
What would actually be wrong from your perspective then for a Christian man to ask a Christian woman whether or not she's a virgin if that's a metric that he cares about for religious reasons?
01:21:09.060
Well, but you seem to have some sort of objection to a Christian man asking a Christian woman.
01:21:15.860
And I think it's a completely valid if you're a Christian man or even a Christian woman could have the same standard as a Christian woman.
01:21:23.380
I only, uh, you only want to date a man who's a virgin, who's, who's chaste, whatever.
01:21:30.700
Nothing wrong with asking that question, but you seem to object to it.
01:21:33.760
So you would willingly, uh, withhold that information from a guy, a Christian man who wants to date you?
01:21:42.440
If they asked me the question, then I would respond.
01:21:48.500
I've just never had that happen to me before, so I'm not...
01:21:50.720
It didn't happen with the, the one that ended a week ago, the Mormon guy, he never asked?
01:21:56.740
I think if you were a virgin, it would be different because I feel like you would want to go, just from my perspective,
01:22:04.760
I think you would want to push that, oh, you should wait till marriage and this is, you can still be Christian and wait till marriage.
01:22:16.040
So I feel like you kind of said your answer in that.
01:22:22.460
Could just be a situation thing, like depending on the environment that she's in is whether or not she wants to divulge such information.
01:22:30.460
Yeah, I think we understand that she doesn't want to share it publicly.
01:22:34.460
I don't have an issue with her preference not wanting to share.
01:22:37.700
I think my, my angle of conversation here is more so there's not actually anything in scripture, biblically, or within Christian ethics or virtue or whatever,
01:22:51.440
that would prevent, it might be your preference, but there's nothing that actually would prevent like a Christian woman coming onto a public platform and saying,
01:23:06.880
I don't think that that's like, you mentioned your body's a temple or whatever.
01:23:10.380
I'm not sure specifically what you're referencing there, but there wouldn't be a contradiction.
01:23:14.960
Like you wouldn't be more or less of a Christian if you revealed your status as a virgin or not.
01:23:21.980
Correct me if I'm wrong, Brian, but I think what you're trying to say is that there's nothing sinful about divulging that information.
01:23:39.220
I, like I said, I just think it's extremely inappropriate and very unclassy for a woman to talk about such vulgar things.
01:23:59.480
It's not sinful, but it's like an uncomfortable question.
01:24:04.340
I just feel like as a woman that's very Christian and like I hold that godly woman over my head, like that title.
01:24:14.400
I shouldn't be talking about my body in that way for people to like then.
01:24:21.880
But that doesn't mean you're disrespecting your body or yourself by discussing.
01:24:26.360
It's just a matter of comfort and how you, how confident you are in yourself.
01:24:30.820
I'm not saying what you're, how you're feeling about this is wrong, but it's like everyone who spoke prior to you, we have no shame.
01:24:40.140
But that's because we're comfortable speaking about it.
01:24:44.880
It doesn't mean it's sinful or anything like that, but there's a difference.
01:24:47.980
The term you used, vulgar, I think if you were speaking about like specific sex acts or like oral sex or what you did, it like whatever, her fucking opening line to the, her now husband with three kids or whatever.
01:25:03.120
Uh, not husband, boyfriend, um, that a bit vulgar, but I think like a Christian woman who sat here and said, you know, um, I'm not a virgin, but I am waiting until marriage.
01:25:13.660
I wouldn't put that, I wouldn't be like, Whoa, that was really vulgar.
01:25:18.660
Now I understand people can have their preference and be like, as a Christian, I'd rather not share certain details about my life.
01:25:26.100
My primary, uh, back and forth with you is just, I guess I contend with your categorization of it being vulgar or something that is perhaps unbecoming of a Christian woman to say, I don't think it would be unbecoming of a Christian woman to simply say, and again, I'm totally fine with you not sharing it, but this is a bit of a separate side conversation.
01:25:48.880
If a Christian woman came on the show and is like, you know, I am waiting for marriage, but, um, I am not a virgin and left it at that.
01:25:56.900
I don't know if I would be like, I can't imagine Christians or being up in arms about it or viewing that as a vulgar thing to say.
01:26:08.800
Well, let's let her respond and then you can ask your question.
01:26:12.320
No, I totally understand where you're coming from with that.
01:26:14.660
It's just the way I think, I mean, I think of it as like, if my grandma is watching this, she's like a saint.
01:26:25.420
Like these are things that I wouldn't even talk about my family with.
01:26:29.420
Um, and then you said you're non-denominational.
01:26:35.680
Is the church non-denominational that you go to?
01:26:42.000
I haven't really talked about this with my family yet, but this morning I went to the LDS church.
01:26:50.920
So, so the guy you were seeing a week ago or whatever, he didn't want to be with you because you weren't LDS.
01:27:04.340
I, I didn't disclose that information to him because I didn't want him to think that I was converting for him, if that makes sense.
01:27:14.260
But so prior to starting to go to an LDS church, were you going to a non-denominational church?
01:27:45.640
Honestly, you partially kind of answered my question, but I wanted to ask you if you, like, how much do you care about other people's opinions?
01:27:54.940
Like, you said you don't feel comfortable because a lot of people are watching.
01:27:58.700
Like, how do you think you care a lot about people's opinion, like outsiders, like people you don't know?
01:28:05.180
I wouldn't say I care about what other people think of me.
01:28:07.840
I more care about how I hold myself and how I care of myself.
01:28:13.340
I'm in a relationship about a year and a half now.
01:28:33.300
We have one chat here I'm going to let come through.
01:28:49.240
This, Brian, is what we call a chronic manipulator.
01:28:52.560
She's saying all these things manipulators say.
01:28:55.260
For anyone who thinks deportations are about race, this is proof it's not.
01:29:02.040
So this is, this came in while you were speaking, chair two.
01:29:15.240
He, he called you a chronic manipulator and he thinks you should be deported.
01:29:22.400
Cha, do you want to, why, why do you want her deported?
01:29:25.720
Do you want to provide, provide clarification on why is it about the manipulation or whatever?
01:29:30.900
But, um, do you want to respond to the manipulation of allegations?
01:29:46.900
I'm just, I just, I have to like, actually, that's fucking insane.
01:29:54.820
She read it and then I pulled it up a second time.
01:30:04.080
He wants me to, to be deported because I manipulate guys.
01:30:16.440
So, honestly, okay, how I would respond to that, I don't think that's appropriate.
01:30:21.900
Like, how do you, you don't have any control over my life.
01:30:28.660
Like, I don't, and the sense that I'm controlling people also is not true.
01:30:44.040
You call two guys, you're, like, you said that you're a girlfriend to two guys.
01:30:47.840
You said you call yourself a girlfriend to two of these three guys, I think.
01:30:53.140
I don't think that's grounds for, or for deportation.
01:30:56.620
This is just talking about your, your manipulation tactics that are affecting other people.
01:31:00.840
Do any of these guys who you're seeing, do they pay your bills?
01:31:13.240
What does trusting people have to do with that?
01:31:19.540
Like, I don't trust people because past experience.
01:31:25.140
What, what don't you trust other people when you're the one that's manipulating other men?
01:31:32.500
Like, causing the, the trust issues for other people.
01:31:35.640
Maybe, um, if I kind of, like, dig deep in, like, my own psychological issues, I don't know.
01:31:44.760
Maybe it's me being, like, cheated on before when I was younger that made me kind of, like, a shitty person.
01:31:57.680
Because you were, you were living in Russia until you were 15.
01:32:00.440
So back in, you know, 15 high school in Russia or whatever, uh, frickin' Vlad or, I don't know.
01:32:15.700
How do you say, how do you say Pyotr in Russian?
01:32:25.080
All right, so you got cheated on, and then, yeah.
01:32:29.780
What happened to you in the past, instead of working on yourself?
01:32:38.560
But yeah, that's still not a point to deport me, like, uh-uh, you're not doing that.
01:32:42.860
Uh, you're a singer, can you, for 15 seconds, can we hear you sing something?
01:32:47.500
Yeah, I can sing one of my new singles, uh, honestly.
01:32:57.100
Um, I can sing Call Me Please, it's my, one of my new songs.
01:33:10.420
Don't wanna show me love, just gotta be around.
01:33:15.840
Na, na, na, call me please, na, na, na, na, na, na.
01:33:21.900
Don't have to show me love, baby, just be around.
01:33:33.520
Really quick, just because we have, uh, we have one person from outside the United States.
01:33:51.780
Any, like, nationality, like, are you Puerto Rican or something?
01:34:03.940
Oh, no, shit, it's, you know, with the Italians, sometimes you can't always tell.
01:34:08.500
So, okay, I have a question for the, for, okay, we got Russia, we got Israel, and we got the Philippines.
01:34:15.840
So, imagine a completely neutral hypothetical situation where neither the United States or the country of your origin is the aggressor.
01:34:35.760
In that value-neutral scenario, to which country is your allegiance?
01:34:44.060
So, starting with you, the United States or Russia?
01:34:56.600
Because that makes me kind of, like, like, fake because I was, I was brought up in that country.
01:35:07.140
You have citizenship in the United States of America as well.
01:35:12.920
I feel fake because I was brought up in Russia, but I would pick United States over Russia.
01:35:19.480
Do you have, oh, well, you do have citizenship here.
01:35:34.500
And then when did you move to the United States?
01:35:44.700
Of your 28 years, how much of that time has been spent in the United States?
01:35:58.900
And just so, can you explain why you pick Israel over the United States?
01:36:10.380
You, no, you spent most of your childhood here.
01:36:15.420
I live in the U.S. after I moved from Israel, but I visited, and I would go there for long
01:36:27.600
So, childhood spent, like, where did you spend your childhood?
01:36:31.220
You know, like summer camp, you go visit your grandparents in another state.
01:36:43.960
It sounds like you said 26 and a half of your 28 years you spent living in the United States.
01:36:54.180
Well, not just your physical address, your, where you were actively living.
01:37:00.500
So, I don't understand this physical address component of the conversation.
01:37:05.060
I'm not understanding your question either, sorry.
01:37:07.280
But why are you saying you're, were you also living in the United States while having a physical
01:37:16.060
So, I don't understand why you would say physical address.
01:37:20.860
Well, because I live in the U.S. after we moved here, we've lived here.
01:37:26.560
And then, during the summers, my parents would send us to live with my grandparents and be
01:37:32.800
there for, like, a month, two months at a time.
01:37:36.620
If your allegiance is to Israel, why don't you live there?
01:37:42.160
So, you want to reap the benefits of the United States, but you won't back them in the case
01:37:48.880
You said that Israel is where your allegiance was.
01:37:51.260
Even if you didn't say that, you are currently reaping the benefits of being in America.
01:37:54.820
Like, the clothes you're wearing, the place you're living, it's all because America's
01:37:58.480
provided this for you, and you're still going to say Israel.
01:38:02.280
I, just to be charitable, people in Israel also have clothes.
01:38:06.940
No, but the things that you have here, like, you're living your life here.
01:38:10.680
Everything that you're, you're, like, doing here is, like, or getting here is because of
01:38:15.720
America, and, but you're, America's given you so much, basically, as I'm saying, and
01:38:29.100
I have dual citizenship, so I can if I wanted to.
01:38:35.720
You're choosing not to because you know that your life in America is not there.
01:38:56.360
I think it's just, I'm not ashamed of where I'm from and what my background is, and I appreciate
01:39:10.620
There was a choice with moving here, um, and I'm not, uh, what's the word, ignoring the
01:39:21.140
opportunities that, uh, my family was provided coming here.
01:39:26.400
Um, but I am choosing right now to stay in the U.S. for work.
01:39:35.020
And I know that the, let's say, film and TV in Israel, they've got some pretty good shows.
01:39:42.820
So if I wanted to, I could, in theory, but I'm choosing to stay here right now.
01:39:47.180
Because you make more money, and you have maybe better work schedule, you have better work
01:39:57.440
I'm a freelancer in film and TV, and right now work in the U.S. is actually really bad.
01:40:03.240
Um, a lot of productions are moving out of the country, too, because it costs less crew
01:40:10.540
Um, so it's just, honestly, it's a whole lot of figuring out whether or not I'm going to
01:40:17.260
try to continue making a career here or go elsewhere where productions are going.
01:40:32.420
Similar to why you chose to go to the LDS church.
01:40:37.480
I mean, sure, yeah, but you weren't born here, and if you're going to side with Israel
01:40:42.460
in conflict with America, then why would you live in America if you wouldn't side?
01:40:49.160
There's clearly conflict with Israel right now.
01:40:51.320
And his question, there was no conflict, though.
01:40:53.760
No, I said a conflict exists, but there's not an aggressor necessarily.
01:41:06.220
So it'd be very, like, for example, even a U.S. citizen, let's say we were just like,
01:41:14.240
And we're going to invade the entirety of Mexico so we can take all their resources.
01:41:18.580
I think U.S. citizens could come to some, like, reasonable objection to be like, hey,
01:41:24.640
This is a war of, you know, this is a war of, what's the right word?
01:41:31.560
But there's another thing when you're just after the spoils of war, basically.
01:41:36.760
So I think, but in a situation where we just make it completely neutral, that can take away
01:41:43.520
some of the objections a citizen might otherwise have.
01:41:47.760
Also, just to be clear, I think when it comes to, in terms of your political allegiance or
01:41:52.420
loyalty, this doesn't mean that you can't still have, you know, family ties, you couldn't still,
01:42:00.080
you know, care about the culture of the other country or whatever.
01:42:04.660
But it is kind of interesting when citizens of the United States who have lived here for most
01:42:13.080
of their life have an allegiance that supersedes their allegiance to the United States.
01:42:20.980
I think you can have a dual allegiance in the sense that removing a conflict between the
01:42:27.220
United States and Israel, let's say Israel had a conflict with, I don't know, Egypt or something.
01:42:36.080
You could be like, well, in this case, I definitely side with Israel over, you know, Egypt, of course.
01:42:40.820
I think my answer was primarily just that I am, I'm proud of where I'm from, and I don't
01:42:51.700
Are you proud of being also an American, though?
01:43:01.460
It's a, it's a hard question because, and I've had this discussion many times.
01:43:08.480
Um, we moved here, but I wasn't necessarily raised in a American way.
01:43:21.820
I speak English, but at home, it's not necessarily, like, I still kind of grew up with a background,
01:43:30.540
like a Russian, a Russian and Jewish background.
01:43:33.980
All right, hold on, uh, can I ask you something?
01:43:36.280
So, you said, I mean, you said it, like, twice, I think, or three times, you said you're
01:43:44.060
So, by a person not choosing the country of her, his origin, over the country they're living
01:43:57.980
Like, when you said you picked the U.S., unfortunately, I don't think that's an unfortunate, uh, decision,
01:44:17.260
How is it your parents love him if they know he cheats on you?
01:44:46.160
All right, continue on with your answer, please.
01:44:48.000
I forgot what the beginning of the question said.
01:44:52.160
Um, they have spent multiple years getting to know him and understanding that just because
01:45:00.180
somebody makes horrible, horrible decisions doesn't mean that they are concrete, a terrible
01:45:07.200
person for the rest of their life, and people can grow and change.
01:45:10.120
And they've seen me grow and change, and I've also cheated on him, admitted it was wrong,
01:45:15.540
and then worked towards why I did it and not ever doing it again.
01:45:32.280
The first time he cheated, I got over it, and the first couple times he cheated, I stayed.
01:45:52.100
I think the other part of that question was asking about your dad.
01:45:58.380
It was about my dad or about him, my boyfriend as a father?
01:46:03.060
I think it asked if he was present in his children's lives.
01:46:05.960
During the one year, it was more of visits and phone calls, because he didn't live with
01:46:30.900
But you went through, like, a naturalization process?
01:46:43.060
I also actually happen to not have been born in the United States.
01:46:53.140
My mom, although I do have dual citizenship, because my mom's American.
01:46:56.340
Uh, so it's not like I'm an immigrant or whatever.
01:47:02.440
And although it would pain me dearly if the United States and France were to...
01:47:07.040
Even though they're allies, I mean, hypothetically, if they were to enter into some military conflict,
01:47:12.220
my loyalties, even though I lived there for the first five years of my life, uh, basically consecutively,
01:47:18.340
uh, my loyalties, undeniably, are to America first.
01:47:23.720
And, uh, of course, I wouldn't want there to be a conflict between France.
01:47:37.120
There's some pretty bad things happening in France related to politics and basically the
01:47:46.340
And, um, I, I would wish to see a return to, uh, a better state of affairs in France.
01:47:55.040
Uh, uh, but, uh, in any case, if there were my, my primary loyalty, my first loyalty is
01:48:06.300
How much of your upbringing was, uh, of French?
01:48:13.060
I certainly lived there for longer and for most of my childhood, as you would say, longer
01:48:17.960
than, uh, you spent in, uh, your country of origin.
01:48:28.780
My, uh, my dad's, he's started speaking French a bit more, but he would still speak French,
01:48:47.880
This is merely like for anybody who's not from here, how much curiosity, how much of your,
01:48:54.400
of their upbringing has been, um, U.S.-based American versus where they're from.
01:49:01.540
I think that's what's cool about America is that we, you can embrace like where your family
01:49:07.680
actually came from, but you should still kind of back the country that you live in, you know,
01:49:13.920
because you get to reap the rewards of practicing your religion and embracing you came from Israel.
01:49:21.740
You know, you guys got to come here and feel that, but, you know, you live here.
01:49:28.280
If a war were to start, would you go back to Israel?
01:49:32.560
Um, well, it's, it's been, it's been considered.
01:49:40.440
So are you only, like, the only thing you like about America is the workforce, basically?
01:49:46.920
No, there's, there's many things I like about the U.S.
01:49:49.780
I just, the question was to pick one or the other and I can't say I, I'm happy to live here
01:50:01.760
and I'm happy to be where I'm from and I'm just, there's no disrespect towards what I was
01:50:22.800
I mean, maybe like something specific or small.
01:50:26.180
I think, um, I don't, well, I mean, again, to be charitable to her, uh, I don't think you
01:50:34.320
I don't think her position necessarily entails that she dislikes.
01:50:39.140
Well, I, I mean, I think even like warm blooded patriot, American patriots can be like,
01:50:47.020
You know, it's interesting actually, just to bring it back to the point of this podcast,
01:50:51.500
Um, I, what was interesting to me when I've seen this in experience with, uh, when it comes
01:50:56.760
to dating or going out on dates with guys is that what I've noticed is American guys aren't
01:51:05.880
too, um, they don't really feel comfortable about talking about their feelings and they like
01:51:12.620
to beat around the bush and me with like being when my parents are from Russia, being with
01:51:18.940
a Russian background, being very blunt and just getting to the point of what's on your
01:51:23.440
I think it's, uh, it's been interesting to kind of figure out a dynamic of understanding
01:51:28.980
how one person is, is comfortable speaking about what's on their mind versus not.
01:51:36.780
Um, which is what was a problem with my, my ex as well.
01:51:50.240
Um, but yeah, just, I guess final, I don't know if I already mentioned this, but, um, I
01:51:56.600
think you can having a primary, having allegiance to the United States isn't a rejection of like
01:52:03.300
a past origin or a past, like you're, uh, another culture.
01:52:07.900
Like for example, if you, if you came here and you're Mexican and you're legal, you're
01:52:12.320
a legal, uh, immigrant, I think your allegiance should be to the United States just as an example
01:52:19.040
But that doesn't mean you have to reject your heritage.
01:52:23.960
I do think you should assimilate, but you know, you can be like, you can still have family.
01:52:29.860
It's not like you have to be like a belligerent or aggressive towards your past nation or culture,
01:52:37.540
but I do think that there should be a primary allegiance, uh, that does exist.
01:52:48.360
I think I had a question for you, something about all these guys you're dating.
01:52:52.940
Um, uh, you know what, we're going to do something a little different here.
01:52:57.140
So oftentimes I, I ask people to what disagreements they have with me, but I actually, I just want
01:53:04.720
to show you, um, show the, the prompt list, but show the graphic image and I'm going to
01:53:11.780
I had chat GPT generated, but it went to, it kind of is shitty.
01:53:18.000
So I just have a notepad that we're going to do.
01:53:19.880
I'm going to show you guys a list of all my positions and show the infographic first.
01:53:32.420
Uh, so you can take a quick gander, scroll all the way down.
01:53:49.880
And as I read these, I want you guys to tell me if there's anything here you disagree with.
01:53:57.680
So one body count matters to these are my positions.
01:54:03.240
Three women cannot be in cell involuntarily celibate.
01:54:11.980
I don't think women can be involuntarily celibate.
01:54:18.760
Well, I mean, I've met women that just, they're like, they're ugly.
01:54:26.900
No, stereotypically like homeschooled, like children and that are, that don't have any social skills.
01:54:33.920
Their parents don't teach them about that sort of stuff.
01:54:35.400
Like, I feel like they're involuntarily celibate, if that makes sense.
01:54:41.480
I do agree that it's like primarily men, but there are definitely women that I have met
01:54:47.160
that have zero idea about, like, sex or any of that.
01:54:55.560
So, involuntarily, so that would essentially mean, despite reasonable efforts to try to get
01:55:05.920
sex, you just, here's how I would put it, access denied.
01:55:11.820
That's what I would consider being involuntarily celibate.
01:55:17.200
Like, if you're a recluse and you don't go out and you're not, I mean, with technology, now
01:55:22.240
you're a man, you can stay inside 24 hours a day, get on the dating app, you can still
01:55:28.220
But of course, if you're not actually making some degree of effort to get laid, I still
01:55:32.380
wouldn't, I wouldn't even categorize a man as an incel under those circumstances.
01:55:36.200
You need to have taken some reasonable steps and attempts to get laid and been rejected
01:55:41.640
before you could fairly be categorized as involuntarily celibate.
01:55:45.620
Because there would have been no actual means with which you could have gotten laid.
01:55:50.980
In this case, just because, two things on this.
01:55:54.380
So, a woman who is, like, socially retarded or whatever, I also, first off, I think, even
01:56:06.420
Men who are socially retarded are really, really off-putting to women.
01:56:10.180
Women who are socially retarded might be off-putting to men, but a lot of them are going to be like,
01:56:15.060
oh, she's just kind of quirky or whatever, and men will still have sex with them.
01:56:20.840
So, this idea that women who are, like, socially retarded or whatever, I kind of reject that,
01:56:28.640
Also, women are going to have massive hesitations just even being in the presence of somebody
01:56:34.800
who's, like, a male who's socially awkward, because then you're going to, like, it's going
01:56:40.160
Whereas, while men can be in danger by being in the presence of, like, fucking unhinged
01:56:45.480
women or whatever, typically, in terms of social awkwardness, men have, while women can definitely
01:56:52.620
be violent and can definitely be abusive and can definitely kill men, I think it's fair
01:56:58.740
to say men are less concerned with that component.
01:57:04.440
So, also, I think when women are, like, autistic or whatever, men are way more forgiving of,
01:57:12.700
like, social, I mean, social retardation, basically, than, like, women are really, like, if you're
01:57:21.120
a neurotypical woman, and you're dealing, like, yo, you're not dealing with, like, a guy who's
01:57:28.320
fucking autistic, but a dude will definitely fuck an autistic chick, for sure.
01:57:40.280
Like, if a guy's socially dumb as fuck, like, yeah, you...
01:57:45.040
Yeah, women won't deal with that, generally speaking.
01:57:51.120
I wasn't aware of the, like, access denied part of it, or, like, we were trying to do
01:57:57.960
Yeah, I mean, my view, I guess my view is access denied is different than, well, wait, what
01:58:11.580
I think even if you're not taught about sex, like, our natural biological being will tell
01:58:18.020
The urges are still there, and we still understand that this goes in here, and something happens.
01:58:23.660
Well, what if you're, like, what if you're, like, 14, 15, you're a virgin, and you get
01:58:30.720
into, like, this car accident, and you, like, lose the ability of your legs, you become brain
01:58:42.300
You know what, I will actually engage with you on this, so, um, I think, hold on, I'm
01:59:02.000
I don't know, even if you're paralyzed from, like, the legs down, any girl, you just download
01:59:10.340
So, I'll answer your question, and the thing I was gonna finish up on there, so, denying
01:59:18.700
So, women will deny access, like, guys will be, like, want some dick?
01:59:25.860
But, if you're a person, and you're, like, trying to get laid, and you're just not, then
01:59:34.980
And, uh, in your case, so, a woman who, uh, is a quadriplegic, even, because you said
01:59:41.520
just lose their legs, I'm gonna go all the way quad, quadriplegic, full disabled, yeah,
01:59:52.900
Okay, look, if she's, like, uh, let's say she's, like, uh, average looking, and she's
01:59:59.780
a quadriplegic, she can go on Tinder, be like, I'm a quadriplegic, I'm in a wheelchair,
02:00:12.840
Yeah, no, I am, and I did, just thinking about it, now there is a girl who is a quadriplegic
02:00:23.020
It complicates, it complicates things, obviously, and it probably closes the door, like, but
02:00:33.160
There are gonna, there are gonna be some guys who are actually, like, into that.
02:00:37.860
Uh, they're into, it's a little curious, I would say, but, uh, not to say that somebody
02:00:47.920
who's disabled isn't deserving of love, or even just sex or a relationship, but, um, there
02:00:54.460
could be, like, a guy who has a king for that, there could be some, a little, I would be a
02:01:02.300
little suspect by it, not, but, not inherently, like, you could just be, like, whatever, you
02:01:10.320
You know, the movies where it's, like, the ugly girl can't get a guy, no matter how much,
02:01:16.160
how big of a crush she has on someone, until she, like, gets a makeover, and then she's
02:01:26.640
So that's, like, involuntary celibacy is going off of, like, could be based off of,
02:01:32.040
of, looks, or, well, I mean, I think, so, I mean, I would agree with you insofar as
02:01:40.140
becoming more attractive physically, whether you're a man or a woman, is going to increase
02:01:46.540
your, uh, sexual and romantic success and prospects, but I'm prepared to say that I think
02:01:54.220
even really unattractive women, without even attempting to make efforts to improve their
02:01:58.580
physical appearance, although it would be good for them, I'm very confident that, I
02:02:04.380
mean, just to make it super easy, within, like, a month they could get laid, and it's
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probably, like, I think a really unattractive woman could download, uh, Tinder or Hinge
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or, you know, go to a bar or club, that would maybe complicate, uh, not complicate, but that
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could take a bit longer if she was trying to do it in person.
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But if she downloads the dating app, almost any woman, even if she's obscenely unattractive,
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uh, within a couple days, I want to say, could get laid super easily.
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So I guess my thoughts are leaning more towards women can't necessarily be involuntarily celibate.
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I'm just still trying to understand that question of itself.
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Yeah, I think they can be voluntarily celibate.
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Like, they can be vol cells, so it's like, you are waiting, I mean, basically, I think
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that there's confusion, but I think it's, uh, a woman is, like, not finding the caliber
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of guy that she would want to have sex with, but I think this idea that she couldn't find
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a guy of, I'm not even saying she has to, like, the woman has to go and find some, like,
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fucking, who, who's that guy from the Disney movie, the, with the hunchback, the hunchback?
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Like, I don't know, she doesn't have to date, like, a hunchback or something.
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I think, I think almost any woman can find a man of, I mean, sometimes women have an overestimated
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Any woman could find a guy who's pretty much her equivalent in terms of looks and have sex
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with him, right, if that's, uh, yeah, if she wanted to, so, or, I mean, but here's the thing,
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right, I think, I wouldn't hold that standard even to an incel, like, incels will even say,
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oh, you know, I'm, say, the incel's average looking, and he's like, I can't get with average
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women, I'd be like, well, you got to go one or two points down, they'll say, uh, I, even
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if I go down, like, even if I try to date a girl who's, like, less attractive, uh, than
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I am, they still, they still can't get it, so, uh, yeah, women, I don't, I personally
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don't think, now, is it logically possible that a woman could be involuntarily celibate?
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It's logically possible, but, like, I can't imagine a scenario where, uh, she hops on it,
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like, there would be geographic limitations, I don't know if she lived in, I don't know
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where she would have to live, I mean, maybe, like, Antarctica, and there's, like, 30 people
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there, and, like, there's not, but if she moved to, like, a reasonably populated area,
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like, I, there's no woman, there's no woman in a major city, or even a medium population
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city who could not get laid, that's my position, any disagreements, I don't know?
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What about, you know, incel men who, uh, probably, who, like, kind of, like, get escorts, which
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Yeah, that wouldn't, that wouldn't count, there would have to be, uh, the, the procure, procurement
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of the sex cannot be financially, a financial transaction, because that would, I would agree
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with you that even a guy who's an incel, they could just get an escort, like.
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No, because, uh, because while the sex has to be, um.
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The woman wants it, because she's getting paid for it.
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She wants the money, she doesn't want the man, that's different.
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Yeah, the, the, the, the threshold has to be, uh, not, a non-financial transaction, essentially.
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But it removes the involuntary part of the incel, like, word, it has to be renamed then,
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Um, yeah, I mean, baked into the, the idea of the term involuntary, uh, I think there's
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a, there's a understanding that we're not talking about, uh, prostitution, because under
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that framework, of course, any man could get laid.
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We're talking about, they can't find a girl who will voluntarily have sex with them.
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Would these women who are prostitutes voluntarily have sex with them absent payment of money?
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Like, for example, I'm confident I could even present an offer to a woman who's not even
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a prostitute who wouldn't otherwise have sex with me.
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But if I offered her a billion dollars, there are women who aren't prostitutes who would
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definitely prostitute themselves for a billion dollars.
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So, under this dynamic, yes, if the, the, well, in this case, prostitutes, prostitute themselves
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Uh, yes, with, if you introduce like this other incentive structure, but the, uh, the incentive
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structure would be, uh, they have, they have their own desire, uh, to have sex with you absent
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I guess this goes in favor with how you think of this question, women not being able, not
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being involuntarily celibate, is that whenever I would read about, um, a man being in, in
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cell, I, my thoughts is like, but isn't there someone for everybody?
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But then again, maybe my thoughts, my question of that is because I'm a woman who like, I've
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My opinion is that there can be, that you can find someone who's interested in you.
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Yeah, I think it's, I, yeah, I, I guess that's possible.
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I'm just saying, I'm, I'm understanding your question a little bit better now.
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Well, you, no, you were saying that there's somebody for everybody.
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In regards of interest, not necessarily like a forever partner.
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It's like, it's like the question, I never understood the incel part.
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So the involuntary is like, so the involuntary is not something that I understand.
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I didn't really get that question because I guess I just never.
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I think it's like, so just hypothetically, if you go to a club with intent to find somebody
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to hook up with that night and you don't, that's involuntary.
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I think there, you know, like you tried and it didn't work and if it continues to happen,
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then it's just not, you know, that's involuntary because you are attempting, but it's not happening.
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I think there'd have to, yes, there'd have to be a bit of a pattern.
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Like if a guy goes out to a club once and he doesn't get laid, I don't think he's involuntarily
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But if he tried for like extended period of time and he's been like, he's a virgin and
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he's whatever, uh, then we can start making a determination as to their, uh, them being
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But, uh, yeah, I mean the, I think the easiest test would simply be, I mean, you could be super
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You could basically just have, you go out, you go out into the street.
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I think a woman who had like a sign around her neck, like she doesn't have to speak just
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This would be super pathetic for a man or a woman to do.
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I think if the, I think almost any woman did that, it might be really awkward and uncomfortable,
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Obviously the, the modern way to do this is just on the dating app.
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But basically you don't have to do, do this really embarrassing public humiliation ritual,
02:10:45.960
But, uh, a woman, but even in public, a woman did that, there would definitely be guys
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But if a guy had like a sign, like no girls are, girls are not going to go unless he's
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like fucking some male model, super hot dude, maybe.
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But like you, you have an average looking girl do that versus an average looking guy do
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I think men put in more effort when it comes to dating.
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If you see something you, or hear something you disagree with.
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Uh, maybe we'll come to that a little bit later.
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Why don't we do, uh, uh, um, I disagree with seven should be drafted.
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Uh, I think women have equal rights to men, arguably more rights.
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People of color can be racist towards white people.
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I think that if you put me in the war, you don't want me fighting for your team.
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I'm going to run around and like, hey girl, like I'm not going to like shoot people.
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I agree that men are better soldiers than women.
02:12:38.680
When you say drafted, do you mean specifically like to go out onto battle or like there are different
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categories that you can be enlisted into, you know, like intelligence and things like that.
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I think bare minimum, uh, you know, obviously in the military, there's not, you know, frontline.
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Well, there's more than just frontline combat roles.
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There's people who are pencil pushers who handle paperwork, who, you know, all kinds of
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Basically almost any job you see in the civilian world, you'll see in basically the military
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Uh, so bare minimum, yes, they should be, they can be drafted and they have to go to
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But, uh, in terms of their actual, uh, role in the military, they can have a support role.
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I think they're worse in combat, but I'm okay with it.
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So you want weaker people to be defending the country for the sake of equality?
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Um, well, obviously look, you know, we're not equal.
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Uh, however, you know, look, the, the United States military is also very advanced.
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I think we probably could have had women do the Venezuela thing.
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Like we probably could have let them do it, you know, like with our tech and shit, they
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Not, they wouldn't have done as good of a job, you know, but they could have done it.
02:14:16.500
Uh, I want to mention that at the point where they got Maduro, he was at his safe door or
02:14:21.360
whatever was big and metallic and they had to pry it open while he was trying to close
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You think women could pry that metal door from Maduro?
02:14:28.560
Well, I don't know the specifics of it, but, um, I'm assuming they use tools, whether the
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women are strong enough to even use the tools or not.
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Well, look, maybe the woman could have, uh, maybe the, you send in two men to do the prying
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of the door, but the, the women could have probably done the Venezuela Maduro thing.
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What I find interesting is there are women that do volunteer to do these things.
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I think that we put ourself in a box of being weak, but women are not weak.
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If they were put in the same standards of testing, fine, but also on a moral level, I
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Women have to try way harder to be as strong as men.
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Mentally, physically, every aspect, women are weaker than men and it's just a fact.
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We are very emotional creatures compared to men, which is why we shouldn't be-
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They're not good with decision-making because of their emotions.
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And we need men who are much more logical, straight thinkers to be in our wars and our battles.
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Even for paperwork, they're more meticulous with that in all the ways that, you know, war.
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If you're a weak-minded woman, that's how it is.
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If you're a strong-minded woman, you're a strong-minded woman, so-
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So their physical strength, I think it's completely unassailable.
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The mental strength or weakness, I'm not prepared to bite the bullet on that just because I think
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I think people can make their arguments on that.
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But in terms of physical strength, you would acknowledge that men are physically stronger
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But that does not necessarily directly correlate to the fact that women are weak to what you
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And I think you said the same thing, which I point, which to me personally says a lot
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about your own personal oppression and background of whatever your parents taught you or your
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And I say that having been and grew up a Christian woman and having been in an evangelical church
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is it's very oppressive to speaking to women are weaker and women shouldn't be in power
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or in leadership because we're emotional or because whatever, when actually not all of
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And every single one of us in this room can, we have the full ability and capability to control
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Every single woman in politics has made a fool of themselves publicly on platforms, everything.
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And it's like, they have literally just proved themselves to not be fit for those leadership
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They should not be leaving this country whatsoever.
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Hasn't every man also embarrassed themselves at one point in political roles as well?
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Yeah, but they still handle it better logically because women automatically turn, I mean, the
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best, the best like example I can come up with is Marjorie Greene who blew up, she's Republican.
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She blew up on X over men saying that, oh, you should get in the kitchen and make your own
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That's a fully great example of her losing her crap when men don't do that.
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What about Caroline Levitt or Kaylee McKinnon, who have been like extremely vocal and just, I mean,
02:18:05.620
I love Caroline Levitt, but I don't think she's a leader.
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So there's a difference when men are telling you what to say and then thinking for yourself
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when you're literally a representative of Georgia, like of an entire state.
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So if women can be drafted, then it should be okay then for a man to watch over the kids,
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Because if a woman does get drafted, like who's going to be doing the other side?
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I don't think men should be like doing all that.
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Because that's like another side because there is another job to do.
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And that's like watching, for instance, there's a family.
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In the same way, women should be taking care of their family,
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If you have a family, you should be with your kids and providing dinner and teaching them
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and not handing them over to government systems to be taken care of.
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And the reason like women getting drafted has been brought up is because of this dating
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culture and the fact that family is not a priority for women anymore.
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So if a woman does get drafted, then like, okay, then a man has to watch the family.
02:19:16.720
Well, if you both have kids, if a woman and a man have kids in the relationship,
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only one should get drafted and that should be the man.
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So what would happen with like your scenario, just to use you as an example,
02:19:44.200
She would be considered a single mother and therefore single mothers should not be able
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to be drafted because she would need to be taking care of her kids.
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I wouldn't think they would take like a mom away from her kids if she's the only one watching
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and providing for the kids, like on paper at least.
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Yeah, that's like the most retarded statement I've ever heard in my life.
02:20:16.060
So if a woman is drafted, should the guys stay home and take care of the kids?
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If you want to be able to be drafted, you, once you're like 18, you can let the U.S. know,
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whoever know, like, yeah, like I give permission to be drafted if it ever gets down to that point.
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If women are drafted, then who's going to take care of the kids?
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Most women are waiting until like their really late 20s or 30s to have kids.
02:20:59.660
So if you're saying that women are having some duty to take care of the kids, where?
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Women are not holding up their end of the deal in society.
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Okay, women are the ones who are going to be responsible for regenerating the population.
02:21:14.040
If some of the men die in war, women aren't getting married.
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They're not having kids or they're delaying it until their fucking 30s.
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So this idea that, well, the equal trade-off here is, well, when the men go to war and die
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and protect the nation, the women are going to do their duty and have kids.
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Women, by and large, are not holding up their end of the deal.
02:21:36.540
Well, furthermore, women have accepted equality, and I would point out that men have a government-sanctioned,
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Yes, our purpose is to bear children and have families.
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So, for example, the United States government, or let's actually, we have some two Russian
02:22:08.120
So in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, I'm sure she's going to love this.
02:22:18.040
Well, I don't know if shortage is the right word, but they would abduct men in the streets.
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It's the military police would abduct men, and who knows where they ended up a few weeks
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or months later, probably on the front line dead, fucking getting droned or whatever.
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So can you tell me a country where the government or the military is abducting 18 to 30-year-old
02:22:50.880
Honestly, for some reason, that rings a bell, but I don't know what country.
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Like, some country was, like, below in population.
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When I'm speaking of duty, is it the case that if a woman so chooses, she can go through
02:23:10.000
I don't think it's you're morally obligated to put a baby.
02:23:19.940
I said I grew up Christian, and I went to an evangelistic church on my own.
02:23:25.820
In the Bible, it states that women were created for the sake of man and man not for the sake
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of women, and that women's purpose is to bear children.
02:23:35.480
I mean, yeah, of course, but my point is she grew up Christian.
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Um, I would consider myself Christian, but more spiritually based, but I don't want to
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And I think I'm allowed to be Christian and also not get pregnant if I don't want to, because
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it is my choice if I want to get pregnant or not.
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I was into years of ancestry and just going to cut it off with you.
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I don't know the, uh, I'm, I don't really know that I'm not, uh, I have pro-Christian
02:24:21.340
Um, is there a Christian obligation to have children?
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Because God calls for us to make disciples and making disciples is.
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There have been stories in the Bible where women can't have children and they're called
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But I think if you're able to have children and you're choosing not to, that's selfish
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for the women that can't have children, but want to.
02:24:56.360
Didn't you also believe though, that it was also like a Christian thing to not say how
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many, like your body count and like your, how many people you've slept with and all that
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But under the guise of a marriage, it's different because marriage is sacred.
02:25:14.280
Marriage is sacred and children are sacred and should be protected.
02:25:20.400
Like going, like being drafted should be a choice for men and having kids should be
02:25:32.840
Something about if you're a Christian, is it a, uh, is it a sin to be a Christian and choose
02:25:47.700
It's not in the commandments, but you are ignoring his will.
02:25:54.060
Like, of course we have to acknowledge some women can't be pregnant, can't get pregnant,
02:25:58.380
but assuming that the woman doesn't have fertility issues, is it a sin to choose actively to
02:26:06.280
not, you know, make a determination that you never have kids?
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I'm asking people in the chat are saying, no, it's not a sin.
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It's not a sin, but is it not acting in accordance with Christianity?
02:26:31.380
It's like, you're not, you're not being sinful, but you're also not obeying God's
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path for you, which is then you are still straying from the father.
02:26:43.000
What if, for instance, fostering children is my path to protect the children that are
02:26:52.880
But what if I don't want to because of my own medical situations that would make it
02:26:58.780
Or what if I simply don't want to put my body through that?
02:27:03.860
I'm hearing a lot of I, I, I, my body, me, what I want.
02:27:12.400
Is it selfish then in your case, would it be selfish asking you to, if say she has a medical
02:27:19.800
history of a lot of cancer or, um, schizophrenia or basically things that are just not good
02:27:28.040
Is it selfish to, to not have kids if you carry those like genetic, um, predispositions?
02:27:34.260
Yeah, because you're never, you're not going to know unless you have children.
02:27:50.100
Somebody was saying, I think women should get drafted.
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Maybe women should get drafted because then more women would get pregnant trying to not
02:28:00.880
I think you were like, oh wait, um, so I, I can agree that if women can be drafted, then
02:28:13.240
So like, if a woman goes away to war, like who's going to watch the family, then it has
02:28:17.860
He has to know how to feed the family, uh, put them to sleep, everything, all of that.
02:28:22.360
He has to essentially, uh, perform the duties of her while she's gone.
02:28:28.780
But women are just so much better at it than men are.
02:28:32.680
Yeah, but this assumes, hold on, but this assumes that there is an existing family and
02:28:41.860
I mean, in how many are getting married at like in their late twenties and not have putting
02:28:46.780
off having children into their late twenties and thirties.
02:28:49.980
Most conscripted, uh, most, uh, conscripted soldiers, it's like 18 to, I don't know, 22,
02:28:59.840
If a woman gets drafted at 18 or 20 and she, I don't know where she ends up, she never gets
02:29:11.620
So just like men here, do you think women should be allowed to vote?
02:29:23.280
Drafting, uh, and being voted, that's different things.
02:29:26.680
Yeah, they, they are different things, but in order for a man to be able to vote, he too,
02:29:30.880
he has to be subject to military conscription to be able to vote in the United States.
02:29:37.860
So if you want equality, I mean, you should probably just take it across the board.
02:29:50.520
I'm, I think we should kind of do away with universal suffrage.
02:29:53.880
So that means we would take back voting from both men and women, uh, to degree.
02:29:59.620
I think there, there are criteria, which would allow you to be able to vote.
02:30:03.780
One of those could be through military service and we would allow both men and women to volunteer
02:30:17.360
I think a lot of people shouldn't be voting both men and women.
02:30:21.700
Uh, so you can also maybe get the right to vote through having, uh, some sort of stake
02:30:27.360
Maybe after you have two or three children, maybe if you are a landowner, a homeowner,
02:30:33.740
maybe you can get a stake then, but just anybody having the right to vote, I think is kind of
02:30:40.520
I think it's a massive mistake and, uh, it's led to a lot of stupid shit.
02:30:46.780
And so I, so to be clear, I'm, I'd be in favor of taking away the right to vote from both
02:30:55.680
I'm, I don't think universal suffrage was a good idea.
02:30:59.640
Uh, now, uh, there was two parts to this, but it's kind of evading me what my second part
02:31:13.740
You could, cause you have a lot of like low IQ, low, uh, like low, low intelligence voters.
02:31:23.860
Um, you could do that, but I don't know if that'd be my first go-to.
02:31:34.280
Uh, you say you've been married for four years now.
02:31:41.220
Where, what, what's with the, we have an apartment right now.
02:31:48.900
Um, so in terms of like women voting though, um, I do think, I think it's just realistically
02:31:57.840
speaking, uh, you're not going to be able to like, that's an, I think that's an untenable
02:32:04.240
People who want to take away women's right to vote.
02:32:06.620
Um, you know, I've heard arguments for it, but I think it's politically untenable.
02:32:11.300
I do think though that women currently, as it currently stands, have a privilege over
02:32:19.240
Because in order for men to have the right to vote, they have to be subject to forced
02:32:27.380
I think at the very least for the time being, we need to equalize that.
02:32:31.500
Women should have some sort of, uh, civil or military duty, uh, to the state to, uh, and
02:32:39.320
But getting rid of women's right to vote, I'd say no, but I am in favor of walking back
02:32:55.880
So here are the fruits of the equality that you so desperately demand.
02:33:04.900
And my argument for that is because we have the choice to not be drafted.
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And if we're not going to lay down our life for this country, then we shouldn't be voting
02:33:15.640
I also don't think that women, I mean, all of, I could ask all of you guys this question
02:33:20.960
and ask you if you are involved in politics or if you know anything about the governmental
02:33:42.840
I am a little bit ignorant on the last couple years of politics because I had a really bad
02:33:48.860
alcoholism, stabbed myself and then went to jail.
02:34:00.420
And I'm pretty political in my mindset and my knowledge about it, I think.
02:34:07.120
I think everyone should go through an intelligence test, men and women, and then maybe you can
02:34:17.740
I don't know exactly what would be the prerequisites for, you know, becoming...
02:34:25.760
I don't know what exactly the prerequisites would be, but I definitely don't think every
02:34:29.940
single person in this country has the intelligence to understand fully what they are voting for.
02:34:37.120
I also don't think dual citizens should be able to vote because you got to be locked
02:34:43.300
in in America, I think, to be able to have a say in American politics.
02:34:50.060
I think you should be living in America for at least 10 years after the age of 18 to be
02:35:07.740
Probably the only thing I'll agree with you on this evening, but yes, I agree.
02:35:16.500
I think that you should actually know what you're talking about before you vote, which
02:35:20.240
is personally, I don't stay up to date on a lot of politics because it is very stressful.
02:35:24.460
And so, therefore, I don't vote because I'm not going to make a decision on something or
02:35:31.420
speak on something that I'm not fully informed of.
02:35:42.460
You could have voted for the past two elections?
02:35:50.100
I mean, in terms of the woman's vote, though, it is the case that if only women voted, for
02:35:58.420
example, and men didn't, you'd basically have Democrat rule for the next 100 years.
02:36:04.720
And if only men voted, you would only have Republican rule or conservative rule for the
02:36:11.580
And I do think it is the case that when women are voting, they typically vote for what feels
02:36:19.460
good, not what is necessarily best for the country.
02:36:23.440
Women are the pushers of political correctness.
02:36:27.700
They're the pushers of what feels good, what seems good, what seems like the nice, warm,
02:36:46.180
And so, you could point to the enfranchisement of women for, honestly, a lot of the issues
02:36:56.420
I think women voting is literally the burden of our economic infrastructure in all of America.
02:37:04.600
Because otherwise, we wouldn't be overrun by immigrants, and our taxes wouldn't be the
02:37:21.620
I think if you didn't vote, you honestly can't talk about politics in any way, shape, or
02:37:27.360
Because you had the opportunity to make a difference in this country, and you chose not
02:37:35.500
Every single person in America thinks that their vote doesn't matter.
02:37:39.040
And that's exactly why we had the least amount of votes this past election.
02:37:47.520
Do you think it's because of that, or do you think it's because the candidates this
02:37:56.780
But I think that every single person thinks that they can't make a difference, and that's
02:38:05.020
And when you choose not to, how can you have an opinion on anything?
02:38:08.380
You had the choice, you had the opportunity to make a difference, and you chose not to.
02:38:12.900
And your mindset is exactly what's wrong with this country, and it's exactly what's
02:38:19.000
And it's exactly why people keep coming into power, and everybody talks about it, and everybody's
02:38:24.580
But you didn't do anything when you had the chance to do it.
02:38:28.380
So how can you speak on something when you chose not to?
02:38:32.540
I think I never said that women don't have free will to talk about politics.
02:38:36.360
I think women can absolutely talk about politics, but I don't think they should be involved
02:38:40.720
But talking about them is kind of being involved, right?
02:38:46.800
Because if you're physically involved in politics by voting, that's completely different rather
02:38:51.380
than sitting around a table talking about politics with a bunch of girls.
02:38:56.040
Because we're not doing anything for the country right now, are we?
02:39:12.140
I saw a tweet, and I reposted it a day or two ago.
02:39:16.100
I think if we were importing millions upon millions of ABGs, Asian baby girls, boba girls,
02:39:22.740
or whatever, like, if we were importing, like, 18 to 29-year-old, like, Southeast Asian women,
02:39:32.040
Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese women into this country, instead of, like, Indian men,
02:39:41.400
Uh, I'm pretty sure women would immediately put on fucking SS uniforms and immediately want to put a stop to, um...
02:39:56.220
Uh, the women would put on an SS uniform and immediately want a complete halting of immigration into this country.
02:40:05.520
If we were importing 18 to 29-year-old women...
02:40:17.480
If we're importing, like, women who are just, like, way better looking and, like, way more feminine
02:40:23.040
than the, like, stock of women that we have in the United States,
02:40:26.800
yeah, women would be, like, furious and up in arms
02:40:29.280
because you'd start losing your, like, leverage in the dating marketplace.
02:40:34.660
But because it's like, you know, we're importing men, whatever, you know, you guys are fine with it, whatever.
02:40:40.720
No, I feel like I'm always competing with Latinas, not the Asians.
02:40:51.240
Nothing is stopping any woman from being high quality.
02:41:00.700
I just think, like, if the demographics of who the, uh, either legal or illegal immigrants shifted,
02:41:08.920
and, like, these women would be way more desirable than American women,
02:41:14.680
bro, I mean, we have a whole movement, passport bros, who leave, who travel, spend a bunch of money
02:41:20.980
to go to a different country because the quality of the women in these other countries
02:41:25.880
is just better than the quality of American women.
02:41:28.800
So it's like, yeah, the women would be completely up in arms.
02:41:32.320
White women would be the most anti-immigrant demographic that fucking ever existed
02:41:38.960
if we were just importing a bunch of, like, hot 18 to 29-year-old Latin American women,
02:41:48.540
Eastern European women, even Western European women, Asian women.
02:42:12.800
Those of you who are single, uh, do you guys feel like there's an abundance of, like,
02:42:23.400
If there's an abundance of high quality men, why aren't you dating them?
02:42:29.240
Well, I think from the women's lens and perspective, I think women think that there's a scarcity
02:42:40.920
I think it's all perspective, just like everything else in life.
02:42:43.680
And so, me personally, I want someone that I feel that connection with.
02:42:55.300
Um, that we have the same drive and ambition and wants in life.
02:43:11.840
And that's a lot coming from me, if you know my background and my story.
02:43:17.320
Um, I think that there are a lot of good, high quality men out there that maybe just
02:43:22.620
haven't really applied themselves the way that they could.
02:43:27.120
And they need someone that will support them or push them or whatever.
02:43:31.260
Um, but I, I mean, there's plenty of men with money that are kind, that are generous,
02:43:39.300
What do you offer that makes a man want to push himself though?
02:43:47.620
Um, for me and my past relationships, what I've been told that I offered that made a
02:43:52.980
man want to do more, um, for himself is inspiration and support.
02:43:58.780
Um, you know, and being there 100% for him and supporting him through whatever he wants
02:44:15.340
Um, so I'm, I'm RH negative and I've already had, I had a miscarriage with my ex-husband
02:44:27.180
RH negative is, um, so you're either, everyone's either RH negative or RH positive.
02:44:32.240
If you're RH negative and you have a miscarriage, then you're more likely to have more miscarriages.
02:44:36.840
Whenever you're RH negative and you have a baby that's RH positive or your partner's RH positive,
02:44:45.700
And because of that, plus other things, um, like I have a seizure disorder, I have an extreme
02:44:53.280
I only have a seizure when I'm around needles and you cannot have a seizure while you're
02:45:00.660
Well, every time that I'm, you know, if I'm giving blood or whatever, you have to give
02:45:06.020
Whenever I had my miscarriage, I had to go give blood all the time.
02:45:10.480
Um, that impairs blood or cause you have to get your, um, HCG levels or HGC or whatever
02:45:18.300
Whenever you got the triggering event for your seizures was giving blood.
02:45:27.320
Um, this has happened since I was seven years old and I've also had seizures outside of that,
02:45:34.020
Well, look, I think for medical reasons, not wanting to have children is, uh, is valid,
02:45:38.100
but, um, so, um, my, my point that I was circling back to is that even though that's not possible
02:45:48.760
for me, something that I have discussed with my past partners is adoption is fostering because
02:45:55.220
I'm someone that has the heart to do that, which is why I brought that point to you two
02:45:59.080
ladies that just because I don't feel comfortable getting physically pregnant because it could
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actually kill me does not mean that my, you know, God's path for me is not meaningful.
02:46:14.580
Doesn't mean that I'm not meant to do something right.
02:46:21.040
And I think for you ladies to sit here and say that women's duty is to get pregnant and have
02:46:26.680
children is putting a box around women that have special circumstances and you may not even be
02:46:34.840
realizing it, but even if it was simply my choice that I just don't want to, but I have a heart for
02:46:40.920
something else that a lot of people don't have a heart for.
02:46:46.380
I do think that's a kind of like a personal condition because I don't know how often that
02:46:55.040
What does this have to do with the ABGs though?
02:47:01.100
I don't think anyone was really interested in the ABGs.
02:47:04.280
I think you guys just don't want to acknowledge the fact that y'all women would be like the most
02:47:09.080
anti-immigration people ever if the demographic of illegal and legal immigrants
02:47:14.460
weren't men, but they were like 18 to 29 year old women.
02:47:20.980
The conversation was, so I think my position is we were talking about, is there an abundance
02:47:31.940
I guess it depends what we're talking about when we say high quality, but I do think a lot
02:47:37.960
of women, I don't know if it's most women, a lot of women do feel, where are all the good
02:47:45.080
Maybe this is just from their framing their lens of they're not acknowledging the, all
02:47:51.180
these good men that do actually exist because maybe they're chasing after a really top tier
02:47:57.400
But I do think it's a common gripe I hear from women of where are all the good men?
02:48:02.260
Um, there's a lacking of, you know, uh, there's a lacking of high quality men.
02:48:09.580
And so my position is as it relates to the, if we were to import like tens of millions of
02:48:15.800
Latin American, Eastern European and Asian women, uh, of, uh, childbearing age, like, you
02:48:25.800
I think a lot of women have an issue with it because I think a lot of women acknowledge
02:48:31.240
that there's a shortage, let's say of possible partners of possible, uh, high caliber, high
02:48:38.920
And this would massively increase, uh, it would create a lot of competition.
02:48:44.740
And I think most men, American men would probably appraise, uh, women from Latin America, women
02:48:51.720
from Eastern Europe, women from Asia as higher quality partners, perhaps both, maybe not even
02:48:57.960
necessarily even looks, but in terms of their values, in terms of their personality, in terms
02:49:03.200
of their femininity, uh, I would argue Western women, American women are the most masculine,
02:49:09.440
uh, most masculine women to have ever existed in human history.
02:49:14.840
Uh, you can think feminism, you can think equality, you can think boss babe culture, you can think
02:49:19.680
degenerate rap music, all this shit, by the way, red flag.
02:49:27.620
D gen, D gen, D gen, D gen, D gen, just any, uh, I mean, I'll give you some leeway if it's
02:49:34.660
like, you know, you listen to some, uh, you know, good, like nineties, early two thousands
02:49:40.300
But if you're listening to this fucking dog shit mumble, I don't even understand what the
02:49:46.160
And they're talking about, I mean, to be fair, rap in the nineties, there were also
02:49:49.500
talking about fight fucking killing cops and I'm going to fuck a bitch and, uh, I got
02:49:54.220
all this money and, uh, I'm a thug and I'm going to fucking pop a cap in your ass.
02:50:01.380
Uh, yeah, I think that's like really low class.
02:50:08.240
I think it's, I think a woman, I think it's a red flag if a woman listens to rap music.
02:50:12.080
I just noticed that, um, in Europe, men seem to be more in tune with their feelings and
02:50:21.360
So, uh, the quality of men in the U S that's just like the idea of always having an option,
02:50:31.100
And it's like, you're sitting in front of them telling you, Hey, like what, what we've
02:50:36.260
been seeing each other for months now, what is it that you want?
02:50:42.980
Well, yeah, but it's like what 40 years old, you still don't know what you want.
02:50:48.080
I think he's just not that into you or he's just not serious.
02:50:51.240
I think American men just don't know what they want and they want an easy choice.
02:50:57.280
No, I think they pretty, they know what they want.
02:50:59.600
Well, I think as a person, no, they don't wait, wait, there's massive, like if you look
02:51:03.220
at, for example, Sweden or the Scandinavian countries, like promiscuity is rampant in
02:51:11.100
But I'm just saying what I've noticed in American men is they want an easy choice.
02:51:15.840
They don't want you to have an opinion or thoughts.
02:51:18.920
I'm not saying like they just want, you can get your tens of millions of ABGs, whoever you
02:51:25.640
want, and the men will come and take them because great.
02:51:31.200
How would you feel if we had a bunch of like beautiful, like men who check off everything
02:51:37.340
that they, that we want come to the U S do you, will you suddenly be against immigration?
02:51:42.200
Well, I will say yes to him against immigration.
02:51:45.580
Well, so I, I suppose my position wouldn't, wouldn't really change, but I don't know if this
02:51:52.900
is going to either come across as racist or gay, maybe, whatever, look, I'll be honest.
02:51:59.140
So I know I don't think it would necessarily come across as racist.
02:52:02.120
I'll say this of the immigrants that do come here.
02:52:06.860
Uh, many of them, by the way, I look, I want to say something.
02:52:11.460
Uh, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration from South America, Latin America.
02:52:18.800
However, I don't think we should allow them to legally immigrate here.
02:52:24.220
If we were like, had a bunch of immigrants, uh, from European countries, culturally, they're
02:52:30.720
much more aligned with the, uh, with American culture.
02:52:35.460
There would be easier assimilation, especially if they're coming from, uh, nations that speak
02:52:41.240
Uh, so yes, I, I do actually, if you're asking me, would I be more in favor?
02:52:46.500
Or I guess technically I would be more in favor of immigrants from Western European countries
02:52:54.320
because culturally it's either easier for them to assimilate to our culture.
02:53:01.540
Um, and in fact, many European countries, many of them do speak English.
02:53:05.440
You look at Scandinavia, you look at the Netherlands, uh, they're, they're all basically fluent in
02:53:11.180
Whereas you have like a Mexican immigrant who comes here, sometimes they stay here and
02:53:15.600
they, they've been here for 30 years and they still don't know how to speak English.
02:53:19.060
So, uh, yeah, I guess, um, I probably would be more in favor of allowing for like legal
02:53:25.860
Well, I guess even if it's like, we're granting, there's going to be some level of illegal
02:53:30.800
I guess I'd be more in favor of a legal, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, but I suppose
02:53:36.320
the illegal immigration would be better if it did happen from what, uh, European countries.
02:53:42.640
So how do you feel about like people like me, like immigrants from Russia or Ukraine?
02:53:54.900
Like, are you good with them being in the country?
02:53:59.700
Uh, well, I mean, there's, there's a couple, there's a bit of nuance to this because currently
02:54:03.560
the United States is, uh, in terms of nations were in conflict with Russia.
02:54:12.340
So the, uh, there, I mean, that's another thing.
02:54:18.640
But overall, I think, um, what do I think about legal Russian immigrants?
02:54:27.260
Although truth be told, I'm really not a big fan of immigration period, whether it's legal
02:54:36.620
Uh, I think we should probably limit it quite a bit.
02:54:46.540
If you're going to come here and you're going to assimilate and you're bringing value to the
02:54:50.460
United States and you're not going to be on welfare, fuck yeah, you can come to the United
02:54:56.280
But a lot of these immigrants, even from some European countries, right?
02:55:01.940
A lot of them end up, uh, needing government assistance.
02:55:05.100
And I find, I think that that's a net negative to the United States.
02:55:08.940
Honestly, there, I can agree because I, like, I came to this country to build myself as an
02:55:15.340
artist to be like, to perform, to create something, music and dancing.
02:55:21.240
I think like if a person has an initial goal, they want to pursue here and they can pursue
02:55:36.380
I mean, I don't really, honestly, I say fuck that.
02:55:40.720
I don't, I don't give a shit about, no offense to you, like congratulations for your performance
02:55:47.900
Um, I'm fine with bringing over Russian scientists, Russian physicists, Russian engineers, highly
02:55:57.860
intelligent people that are going to, uh, you know, the creative, I don't, I don't really
02:56:04.700
I don't care if you're, if you're going to actually, how about, or, you know, if you're
02:56:10.920
a Russian cancer researcher, fuck yeah, come here.
02:56:17.860
That shouldn't be justification to grant you citizenship.
02:56:22.320
Now that's not why you were granted citizenship, but like, yeah, I don't, nah.
02:56:26.740
My father studied to be an engineer in the Soviet Union, but when he came to the U.S., he couldn't
02:56:33.900
necessarily get a job as an engineer here because they didn't, uh, recognize his education.
02:56:42.940
So he unfortunately did not, he now has a very good job that he worked his ass off for,
02:56:51.480
So when it came to my brother and me, my brother is now actually working as an engineer.
02:56:58.300
He got his education as an engineer, got his job as an engineer, but, and I'm not saying
02:57:03.620
immigrants should stay on welfare through and through, you know, you come here, you have
02:57:07.940
some doctors do come here and unfortunately cannot get the job that they studied their whole
02:57:20.420
I saw that, like I witnessed that actually happened a couple of times.
02:57:25.240
My, my sister-in-law's, uh, cousin is, uh, I don't remember what exactly in the medical
02:57:32.380
field she does, but she was a very good doctor and she had, and she unfortunately could not
02:57:40.800
Well, I, there's different accreditation processes.
02:57:45.900
I mean, I would also just amend my statement here, uh, while I did say I'm in favor of,
02:57:51.980
you know, let's say you're some superstar physicist, engineer, you're in STEM in a foreign country.
02:57:57.960
I, I would love to bring, uh, people's intelligence to the United States so long as it doesn't misplace,
02:58:05.520
uh, American citizens who are also in these fields.
02:58:09.720
So if we had, you know, if we have a limited amount of jobs in physics, uh, uh, I'm trying
02:58:16.460
to think of, well, physics, engineering, uh, engineer, uh, what are, I don't know, what
02:58:24.580
Uh, if it's not displacing American citizens, uh, by bringing them in and it's just bolstering
02:58:32.900
our, our base of, uh, our, our ability, I don't know.
02:58:39.940
I don't know the right phrasing, but, uh, then yeah, I'm fine with it.
02:58:44.380
I think that people shouldn't immigrate to America unless they're willing to serve in
02:58:48.460
And I think if they come here, they should serve in the military personally.
02:58:54.680
Um, but what about age wise, depending on when you come to the country, you know, is there
02:59:03.800
No, I don't think that people should immigrate to America if you're not from here.
02:59:11.100
Like if you move to the U S then you should join, you know, I'm just asking my specific question
02:59:20.440
So like if your parents immigrated here with you, is that your point?
02:59:26.160
No, I was simply asking whoever your question, like if you immigrate and you're, let's say
02:59:32.020
in your forties, should you still go into the army?
02:59:39.980
I don't think, uh, well, I also, I don't know if I, I don't know if I would be in favor
02:59:47.520
of like having, uh, France has something called the French foreign legion where you can basically,
02:59:54.960
And if you agree to serve in the French foreign legion, uh, you can, that would be your pathway
03:00:06.200
I don't think I like that for the United States.
03:00:19.980
Let's just keep America, America for a little bit, fix some of our problems.
03:00:24.720
Then we can maybe revisit, uh, allowing all these, uh, other people to come here.
03:00:30.960
Well, that's my whole point is I'm not for immigration by any means whatsoever.
03:00:36.200
And it's the whole problem with America to this day.
03:00:40.100
I think that if you want to come to this country, then you should be willing to fight for it rather
03:00:45.020
than come to this country, live here and oppose it.
03:00:49.620
Like, I don't think that there should be some, uh, United States military program.
03:00:54.880
That's like, Hey, come join this military group and we'll give you citizenship.
03:01:02.700
Uh, I think we can call upon our existing citizenry to provide, uh, the defense of the United States.
03:01:26.880
Does someone know the difference between those two?
03:01:32.680
Because I'm pretty sure that immigration is when a person comes to a country for a couple of years,
03:01:38.580
just maybe like escaping a war or pursuing something for like school and then they go back.
03:01:44.580
But migration is when they move and they're willing to live the rest of their life in that other country.
03:01:58.700
There is a point because all of the stuff with the war, with the skills, being like scientists, doctors,
03:02:06.320
there's some people who are immigrants, they didn't want to end up here.
03:02:15.680
I think you're talking about asylum seekers, not immigrants.
03:02:31.960
Those are the only two countries that border the United States.
03:03:01.440
You could argue there's some conflict in Mexico, but nothing that would warrant a Mexican to seek asylum.
03:03:09.400
And the international rules as it relates to asylum seeking, you don't...
03:03:14.340
You have to stop at the first country that'll take you.
03:03:17.520
So there's plenty of countries in Latin America...
03:03:20.400
Well, I mean, Mexico would be the clear choice here.
03:03:22.780
You have all these people coming from South America.
03:03:25.300
They need to stop in Mexico if they're actually seeking asylum.
03:03:42.160
I'm not super familiar with the exact thing here.
03:03:46.560
But I don't know who comes to the United States.
03:04:01.180
Some countries aren't that welcome to people coming there.
03:04:06.300
Why should America be if all other countries aren't?
03:04:18.420
I would actually be in favor of helping these countries develop.
03:04:27.080
Don't you think we've poured enough money into other countries, though?
03:04:30.020
Like, why not actually help our own country that's billions of dollars in debt because of other countries?
03:04:39.820
If the trade-off is through, you know, helping these countries build up their infrastructure or whatever, and perhaps we can even get a return on investment, that would limit immigration, which has an economic cost to the United States taxpayer.
03:04:58.940
If the economic trade-off makes sense, then why not do it?
03:05:06.500
Like, if we can invest in this country, if we can spend a million dollars in some Latin American country and develop it to the point that X amount of people would be less likely to immigrate, illegally immigrate to the United States, and through there, if they would have otherwise illegally immigrated, this would cost us $5 million.
03:05:30.520
I mean, sure, we've done it before, like, helping with the liberation of France, and there didn't turn out to be complete degenerates, but we've tried with other countries, like the Middle East, and, I mean, it has blown up in our face time after time.
03:05:47.660
I mean, we've pulled out of that country, what, four times now?
03:05:51.960
Yeah, but there wasn't really, like, Afghanistan, people from Afghanistan did not really have a great pathway to illegally immigrating to the United States.
03:06:03.640
I agree with you that the intervention, the United States intervention in much of the Middle East was a complete failure militarily and economically, and had a massive, has created massive burden on the taxpayer.
03:06:16.920
But I don't know if that's really related to immigration necessarily.
03:06:22.060
Well, most of the immigration here are becoming Middle Eastern, so I would argue that it is.
03:06:30.300
I don't know if that's because of U.S. intervention in the Middle East.
03:06:34.180
No, I don't think it is, but I'm, like, my point is you guys are talking about how we shouldn't be, or we should be, like, helping countries become, you know, democracies or whatever, and we've tried that, and it failed.
03:06:48.980
The U.S. military intervention in Afghanistan, I think that's a little different than what I'm talking about here.
03:06:57.880
I think if even corporations want to go into these countries and they want to get a return on investment or something, they think it would be beneficial.
03:07:06.360
Or even if it's, you know, the United States government is giving guidance, why not, and if we think it's going to have some downstream positive effect for the United States, either through a diminishing of immigration or perhaps economic benefit, then I think I'm fine with it.
03:07:24.820
I don't think we should be necessarily doing fucking regime change shit.
03:07:31.720
Okay, so you're not talking about, like, governmental aid.
03:07:35.900
You're talking about, like, just strictly economic, like, infrastructure, like if we were to bring Micron to, like, Europe.
03:07:45.580
Look, if we can have a—I don't know the precise specifics, but a lot of these fucking countries don't know how to, like, run proper infrastructure.
03:07:54.220
How can we get them up to speed so they can be self-sustaining and they can have a quality of life for their citizenry that is good?
03:08:03.380
So, yeah, I think it's okay to help out other nations, you know, increase their development index or whatever.
03:08:15.920
I don't think we should be, like, having fucking wars in these countries and, like, spending a ton of money.
03:08:22.120
But I think that there are government programs that can bolster—if we do want to see, for example, a decrease in immigration from these countries,
03:08:30.020
maybe there's things that we can do to put in place so that these countries can develop.
03:08:36.500
And I think one of the ways you can do that is through assistance with infrastructure and making these countries, like, good places to live.
03:08:43.100
That way, people don't want to leave these countries.
03:08:53.420
Bro, I don't want to—you're getting into the weeds here.
03:09:02.440
I'm not interested in having—like, is that really what you want to talk about?
03:09:07.540
I wanted this to be a general—this thought right here is a very general conversation.
03:09:12.420
You want to get into, like, how we can better the infrastructure in Peru?
03:09:18.000
No, my point is just saying, like, how are we supposed to do that other than influencing these countries?
03:09:23.080
That's why I'm saying we shouldn't get involved, because we're already a great influence.
03:09:27.300
And if they can't, like, follow, then what's the point?
03:09:35.880
Like, if we're the lead country in the entire world, right?
03:09:42.740
If we're leading by influence and other countries can't follow and see what we're doing and say, oh, they're doing so great, why don't we try to establish this in our own country?
03:09:53.340
Or, like, in our own country, then how are we supposed to force them to do that if they can't just follow by example?
03:09:58.460
It's not about forcing them to do that, but you can guide people.
03:10:03.540
You can give them, you know, steps for how to set up their infrastructure and so forth.
03:10:11.720
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it.
03:10:16.020
I think he's talking about the general preference of us as a country being able to help.
03:10:25.220
But at the same time, we don't really owe anything to other countries.
03:10:32.560
I think a duty is any task that even though an individual may morally and or ethically disagree with doing, they are still obligated to perform to the best of their ability.
03:10:51.560
I think an example for men would be the selective service.
03:10:57.140
Yeah, so this goes back to our conversation about we're talking about duties, we're talking about voting, and I think men have duties.
03:11:07.780
And so this puts women in a privileged position in society, and ultimately women have a right basically granted to them completely for free.
03:11:19.680
And then men have a voting right, but it comes with strings attached.
03:11:37.100
Like you said, you can't force women to get pregnant.
03:11:39.000
But like I said earlier, there is a duty to have a family.
03:11:43.400
I know like there are certain medical conditions, but just why I'm all for adoption, I'm all for fostering.
03:11:48.920
But I think in general, family, like making, that is a duty for, you know, for women.
03:12:02.360
My job is to serve him and be there for him, do everything that I can to make his life easier to provide for us.
03:12:09.260
And I think a lot of men would definitely expect their wives or their girlfriends to provide.
03:12:15.520
I mean, they cook, they clean, they are going to child rear, take care of them.
03:12:20.520
I mean, I would essentially argue that that would be in line with what they're talking about.
03:12:25.980
Well, almost bringing it back to the conversation of voluntary versus involuntary.
03:12:33.640
So all these things you guys are describing is voluntary.
03:12:36.600
A woman can go through life in the United States and the government wouldn't force her to get married.
03:12:44.960
The government can't force her to have children.
03:12:47.480
You might argue that there's social pressure, although I really, I think it's even in the opposite direction today.
03:12:54.660
Meanwhile, the United States government can call upon U.S. male, U.S. citizen males and force them into the military if they wanted to.
03:13:08.140
So I think men have a duty to this country in order to be able to vote.
03:13:14.060
Men have to register with the Selective Service.
03:13:16.300
If they don't, there's all kinds of consequences.
03:13:18.400
There's no corresponding, like, equivalent thing for women.
03:13:25.180
There really isn't anything women have except, I mean, there's something both men and women need to do, and that's jury duty.
03:13:38.260
Women, everything else is something that we ultimately have a choice on.
03:13:44.760
Like, morally, we have a choice if we want to have children for a man.
03:13:48.040
We have a choice if we want to cook for a man, if we want to clean for a man.
03:13:59.060
So are we, I don't know, do we agree women don't have duties?
03:14:03.820
I agree that we don't have, I agree that we don't have lawful legal duties.
03:14:11.140
Yeah, I mean, I agree we don't have lawful duties.
03:14:22.400
In certain ways, we do have privileges over than men, but in certain ways, men have more privileges than us.
03:14:30.360
Like being able to walk down the street at 12 o'clock at night and not feel like you're going to get raped or murdered.
03:14:36.500
You're putting your feelings about men, like so you're going to, your fear, you're putting it on men.
03:14:41.980
Well, actually, yes, no, I can say I do disagree with that because there are, men can just as much get raped as a woman can.
03:14:58.500
So I think men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
03:15:02.920
So maybe even if it is the case that women feel more fear, the actual statistics show that men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
03:15:14.280
Also, this idea that men are just like completely oblivious to potential threats if they're walking in a, you know, down the street late at night.
03:15:23.840
Uh, I, I, I don't actually believe that I myself have to take precautions as a man.
03:15:32.000
Uh, if you're walking in an area, uh, there's not much one man can do against two men, against three men, against four men.
03:15:41.660
Uh, so this, I, also there are men, even if it's one man, if there are men who are stronger than other men.
03:15:49.180
So if that man's stronger than me or he has a weapon or whatever it is, um, doesn't really change anything, but men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
03:15:58.300
And then I think the other thing though, uh, assuming you're walking in, let's say a public area, um, perhaps there might be like if it's totally barren and there's just no people around.
03:16:09.080
I actually think women are afforded quite a bit of privilege and protection if they're walking in a public area alone versus a man who's walking in the public area alone.
03:16:18.200
The way I know this is because, uh, while this isn't universe, this isn't necessarily always the case.
03:16:25.980
I think as a woman, if you're walking and say, it's a kind of a crowded area here in the United States and like some random guy comes up to you and starts like beating you up.
03:16:36.480
And there's other men around who don't know that guy and don't know you.
03:16:42.460
There are definitely men who will intervene on your behalf, who don't know you, who don't owe you anything, who will protect you, who will step in, who will white knight for you.
03:16:51.960
If I'm walking down the street completely alone, I don't know any of these other people in the street and some random guy starts whooping on me and beating me up.
03:17:01.660
There's no men, no men are going to intervene on my behalf as some sort of virtuous.
03:17:08.360
There's far less likely some, some virtuous man is going to save me.
03:17:14.360
No, I'm going to get my ass whooped and that's going to be it.
03:17:17.180
So you women, you have male bodyguards by proxy.
03:17:21.900
You have male bodyguards when, if you're out in public who don't know you and men will see, like, I don't know.
03:17:32.060
Does it, I don't know if somebody disagrees with me on this, but it is, this is a phenomenon that exists.
03:17:38.620
Because if, if a group of men sees a woman getting attacked by, like, one dude, you can look at a lot of these videos, like, the men are instantly going to, like, these men are like, whoa, that girl's getting beat up.
03:17:55.400
And then that guy's going to get, he might get fucking killed.
03:17:59.860
He's going to get kicked in the skull when he's fucking knocked out.
03:18:02.560
And look, if he, if a random man attacks a woman or a man, I think randomly, I think you probably should get fucking kicked in the head a few times.
03:18:11.780
But I do think this is a privilege that women have.
03:18:16.220
So you actually, when you women are walking alone in public, I think you're protected.
03:18:31.520
I actually genuinely feel relatively safe in public, in daylight.
03:18:38.560
If I'm walking alone, I think it's, just like any man, actually a friend of mine was walking alone.
03:18:44.500
He was in Cape Town and he got pepper sprayed in his mouth and the side of his head and they tried to steal his phone.
03:18:50.440
I think the only difference there is, like, he, being a man of strength and not, like, intoxicated of any sort, he was able to fight them off.
03:18:59.820
And I think the difference here would be, like, a woman may be less likely to fight them off if she's not trained in something or goes to the gym or whatever.
03:19:10.500
So I think that's the only difference in privilege between man and woman or the obvious that we see.
03:19:16.380
A woman typically doesn't, or isn't able to hold as much power in, like, a boardroom or in position of power.
03:19:26.840
And I think, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, you can look it up.
03:19:33.960
But in, like, medical doctors, men typically get paid more than women, even still.
03:19:40.880
That's because men go into, in the medical field, men go into higher paying disciplines.
03:19:46.000
Honestly, because we brought all of this up, I don't want to argue with anyone, but what's going around, like, on social media,
03:19:53.500
and what I see pretty often is that women argue that having a period every month is, like, a downgrade.
03:20:03.000
Like, we don't have a privilege because we have a period every month.
03:20:06.700
I don't personally have an opinion on it, but how do you guys feel about the fact that, oh, we are equal because we have our struggle,
03:20:13.860
which is having a period every month, which men don't have.
03:20:17.000
I think struggle is a blessing because it allows us to have children.
03:20:21.300
I think women aren't equal in the workforce for several reasons.
03:20:24.320
Firstly, women don't ask for raises as much as men.
03:20:27.880
Secondly, women with family planning and such, they're more likely to take time off compared to men.
03:20:34.000
And, yeah, those are the two main points there.
03:20:37.340
But if you're family planning, then shouldn't you be earning the same amount so that you can also save up to support your family?
03:20:44.380
Do you think a company is going to care about that?
03:20:47.060
I think a company is going to care about its profitables, which I think men are more likely to give it.
03:21:04.140
Like, everybody's a certain amount of strong, but, like, the big, like...
03:21:19.760
Well, I think, look, if women have had the right to vote for over 100 years, the women have...
03:21:37.920
I always get confused with, like, well, it was passed, but then it was ratified.
03:21:54.440
Women have had the right to vote for over 100 years, but in order for men to vote, they
03:22:00.960
Women still, after 100 years, equality, boss babe, blah, blah, blah.
03:22:04.360
Still not equal, I think, ultimately, look, we got to finally make a decision on this.
03:22:12.600
Either we draft women, or, or, look, I think we got to draft women.
03:22:20.980
Women, you can keep the votes, but we got to draft you, you know?
03:22:25.280
Or, in order to make things equal, I guess it wouldn't be equal.
03:22:29.760
I guess you got to take away the right to vote.
03:22:32.300
If only men can be drafted, I think you got to take away the right to vote.
03:22:37.480
If we keep it as it is, I'm in favor of women voting, but you got to be drafted.
03:22:43.020
I think if you want to be a woman, and you want your right to vote, you should be drafted.
03:22:49.180
But if you're not going to vote, if you don't want to get drafted, you shouldn't be able
03:23:05.180
I don't know if it's going to work tonight, but we'll see.
03:23:09.360
Nobody else here has done sex work or stripping or anything?
03:23:16.500
Okay, well, I'll try it with everybody, but I usually, it's more so directed at women
03:23:32.940
Like in your purse, not on you right now, but you have, you have cash on, you got cash
03:23:46.100
So look, even if you're not like doing OnlyFans or doing any other kind of sex work, I do think
03:23:51.680
even non-sex work or women, you guys have simps.
03:23:55.920
You guys have men who will just send you money.
03:23:58.420
Maybe you were on a dating app and you were like, put your Venmo in there.
03:24:01.700
Some, I've heard women who, I wouldn't categorize this as sex work, but women on a dating app,
03:24:06.620
this happened, I don't know if they allow this anymore, but women like long time ago
03:24:09.920
would put like their cash app or Venmo in a dating app and be like, Venmo me for a surprise
03:24:15.820
And a lot of these men would send them cash money.
03:24:19.040
Even if you're not on a dating app, I've heard stories from women.
03:24:21.520
Oh, this guy just paid me money for existing, I guess.
03:24:26.560
So as a novelty, as a fun little thing, you can say this one time I simped for a dude,
03:24:33.620
Uh, yeah, if, uh, I, I am accepting, I actually not just accepting, I demand cash payment.
03:24:46.380
Here, I'll, oh, look, first taker, how much is this?
03:24:51.020
Ooh, this is a donation from both me and my husband because we're big fans.
03:25:04.580
Uh, will you, I accept Venmo, Cash, Abzell, PayPal.
03:25:12.860
The point is, is as a fun Uno reverse role reversal, one time in your life, you can be
03:25:19.360
like, look, I would never do this, but just cause for funsies on the whatever podcast,
03:25:39.060
So, which I guess we'll be returned to her in a roundabout way, but, um, thank you.
03:25:46.220
Uh, so it's like, cause y'all women get simped over men just will give you money.
03:26:00.120
But do it for, not like, cause you genuinely mean it, but just for the funsies.
03:26:04.380
I used to be friends with a girl who, uh, I called her simp queen because it's not that
03:26:12.220
It's just, they would get her any, they would drive hours long just to bring her boba or
03:26:20.020
They would give her this or that and that, and she'd just do her cute little voice and
03:26:36.300
What value are you providing for the transaction right now?
03:26:39.420
The same value that women are providing when they're just getting money.
03:26:45.920
Doesn't matter whether I'm sitting there doing nothing sexual.
03:26:48.960
Well, it doesn't, it does not have to be a sexual thing.
03:26:56.740
I'm sure that there would be plenty of women that would be willing to give you cash.
03:27:10.760
We're going to do, um, no takers, unfortunately, unfortunate, unfortunate, you know, it is what
03:27:17.700
Uh, Stifler, ask everyone to rate their own looks, face, body total on a scale of zero
03:27:24.640
I think this is messed up because I want to pick seven so bad because I genuinely think
03:27:29.120
that, but I wrote 6.5 just to sway more towards the lower end because of the beauty
03:27:42.520
Um, I think my face, I can't say seven for any of them.
03:28:12.680
Think about your answers while she's pondering.
03:28:43.920
100 out of, can you speak a little louder for us, please?
03:28:47.720
I would say my face is 100 out of 10 on a scale of 10 out of 10.
03:28:56.480
Well, I'll say like, okay, 9.9 out of 10 because I missed the gym one time this week.
03:29:03.860
Like, if you didn't miss the gym, what would it be?
03:29:43.760
Maybe then I'll do, I'll do, I'll do 2, 4, and 6 then.
03:29:48.840
Because it would look like, it would work like this.
03:29:51.780
The total would be inferred from the face and body.
03:29:54.720
So, if you said, like, face, 4, body, 6, that would be, like, 5, basically.
03:30:01.640
Although, it would depend if you value face or body more.
03:30:07.180
But, there's, I don't think you can go 4 face, 4 body, 6 total.
03:30:24.260
Maybe she means, like, her personality is, like, a 10 out of 10.
03:30:28.860
Well, then, the total will just ultimately be a 6.
03:31:18.700
If you guys can, just say 4 face, 4 body, 4 total.
03:31:22.840
I'd probably say my face, since we can't say 7, like, 7.5.
03:31:35.120
I'll say 8 for my face and 9 for my body because of my back problems and totally 0.5.
03:32:02.140
Because I'm guessing that she has your back hurts often.
03:32:07.300
It's the thing that drops you from a 10 to a 9 is your back.
03:32:10.000
If I was a 10 out of 10, my body would be perfect.
03:32:21.400
If it wasn't for your back problems, you would be a 10.
03:32:29.120
I guess that would average to like a 9, 8.5, 9.
03:32:59.660
I would stand by Katie's 10 because we've known each other for a little bit, and she literally
03:33:06.440
And if you've seen her photos, she's got a 10 out of 10 body.
03:33:33.960
Can you guys tell me, for the two women who are 10s, can you tell me a male, maybe like
03:33:42.580
an actor, or a celebrity, somebody who we could Google, a man who you think is a 10?
03:33:54.200
Is that that little skinny guy who sings in, girl, what are you talking about?
03:34:00.920
That name sounds familiar from like 15 years ago.
03:34:06.640
That's like the, that challenge that was on Vine where they like paused.
03:34:16.460
I just don't really pay attention to celebrities all that much, but my, my forever celebrity
03:34:26.360
You guys are giving me some fucking weird answers to this.
03:34:32.540
I think everybody knows what the rock looks like.
03:34:51.920
Just question that you said you're like dating three guys.
03:35:08.260
Are you just like a fan of his music or is that actually like you think he's really
03:35:20.820
I have actually, Chad, I have no idea what to do with that one.
03:35:53.540
Are there any like Russian celebs or something you can think of?
03:35:59.520
A lot of Russian women are very beautiful typically.
03:36:56.460
Now on the image, right click on it and do open in new tab.
03:37:45.980
There should be a way to like isolate just the photo.
03:38:05.460
Would you guys, would you say you're like equivalent looks to her?
03:38:14.280
I think she has a very unique classic look and I think I have a very unique classic look.
03:38:22.320
Yeah, I do think that we have the same level of beauty.
03:38:26.040
I'm kind of known for my, my classic beauty and my classic look, so.
03:38:42.880
I do think of anyone here, I would say you're the most beautiful looks wise.
03:38:58.900
Do you think if you were to use words to describe your physical appearance, like what would you use?
03:39:23.460
It tends to get me a lot of work and a lot of bookings.
03:39:51.600
We'll just do your average total rating or whatever.
03:39:55.300
Do you think that the rating would be the same?
03:40:07.480
Do you think if a hundred thousand men, their average rating.
03:40:19.860
You rated yourself a 10 across the board, basically.
03:40:23.000
Do you think the hundred thousand men would rate you.
03:40:32.200
Maybe a little lower because of my personality.
03:40:44.400
I mean, there's probably a subject matter there that we can get into, but that's another
03:40:59.720
I think I have like my self-esteem is a little too high.
03:41:27.140
So I'd say maybe seven or a six would be my average.
03:41:48.980
But you said you gave yourself four, four, four.
03:42:08.720
Why would the men, why do you think the men would rate you an eight?
03:42:15.720
With our current, I'm going to call it an epidemic.
03:42:25.320
There is a new kind of look on or a new social expectation of what they expect a woman to look like that is not necessarily natural.
03:42:37.640
So I'm rating myself on a scale of what I believe is beautiful.
03:42:41.780
And I do believe that I'm a 10 full wholeheartedly because why would I downgrade myself?
03:42:47.340
And all of you ladies should think that you're a 10 as well.
03:42:52.720
Do you think all women should view themselves as a 10?
03:42:56.180
I do think all women should have that confidence.
03:42:59.620
I think that yes, if they actually work on themselves.
03:43:07.540
So like if they actually work towards being one, like I don't like encourage Botox or anything.
03:43:19.760
I think in their own way, everyone is beautiful.
03:43:29.920
Wait, didn't you say that there was an issue with plastic surgery?
03:43:35.300
So I don't, I don't personally agree with completely changing your face in the way that you look for a lot of different reasons.
03:43:43.360
But, you know, I think if you want one thing here, one thing there.
03:43:45.620
But it's really shifted and changed the outlook of what beauty is.
03:43:54.400
Yeah, and so therefore there is a different expectation.
03:44:01.100
That's why I rated myself or said that men might rate me lower is because, you know, I don't have like a boob job, right?
03:44:10.180
I have my natural like Bs or whatever they are.
03:44:37.240
How come you're willing to give women the like, yes, girls slay, you're all 10s, the confidence.
03:44:43.260
But for men, you're like, eh, maybe they can reach 10 level.
03:44:47.740
Because I love women and I want to support women.
03:44:59.340
But she does point something out where you were quicker to say, yes, all women are 10s.
03:45:06.460
But there seemed to be hesitation when we were trying to do the same appraisal of men.
03:45:11.280
I mean, just because I don't find every man attractive, right?
03:45:22.920
So would you say that that should be like men should do, should say the same thing towards men?
03:45:30.020
Like a man should say, oh, all men are 10 out of 10.
03:45:32.980
And women should say, oh, all women have 10 out of 10.
03:45:35.680
But if a woman is speaking about a guy, then she can say like, yeah, I don't know.
03:45:41.000
So because you are supporting girls, then men are supporting men.
03:45:48.860
And if, I said like, if they work towards being one, like if they work on themselves, then I guess they could be.
03:46:05.300
Or do you think all women should say they're 10s?
03:46:14.180
I have the same answer for both of them, for both women and men.
03:46:22.260
You're saying that they have, everyone has 10 potential as long as everyone works towards that 10.
03:46:28.280
So you think, you think that everyone can be a 10, even like someone with like deformities, they can be 10.
03:46:47.620
Yeah, you do realize that like facial attractiveness is absolutely massive.
03:46:51.940
And there's very little that you can do to improve that.
03:46:54.800
Even oftentimes getting plastic surgery, you still can't, there's a limit to what you can do.
03:47:00.340
I was going to say that you can go to the gym as often.
03:47:06.300
I just do changes to your body by going to the gym and working out.
03:47:11.780
But you can't change your face unless you do your surgeries.
03:47:18.700
So I agree that most people do have the capacity to, although, I mean, there's even genetic components to, well, your muscle insertions and like some people have an easier time, at least especially with men, putting on muscle.
03:47:37.320
Like some men just don't have like good muscle insertions and their chest is going to look all fucking retarded and their, you know, biceps are not going to look right and their triceps and their shoulders, all these things.
03:47:50.680
So, I mean, you can get fit, but even then there's some degree of genetic limitation.
03:48:02.460
Well, I mean, you're, you're a woman of God, right?
03:48:06.000
I think the only thing that person that can be considered a 10, if you look at it this way, would be Jesus, right?
03:48:25.720
But like in this way, like if created that way, God was created to be like the perfect image.
03:48:35.000
Whether it's like personality, like everything wise, it's just, that's created to be the perfect image.
03:48:44.380
And for looks wise, this aspect of it, if you're doing it this way, let's say, let's say, I don't know, for me, I rate myself for my looks a four.
03:48:57.840
But, I don't know, like my, my nose, I think my nose is very big.
03:49:12.320
It has to do with the fact that like he thinks that I'm perfect.
03:49:17.140
I think that like we shouldn't rate people personally because I do agree with you.
03:49:24.920
We are all created in God's image, which is perfect.
03:49:28.080
I don't think that we should view people as options because when we're rating their looks, we're looking at them as an option.
03:49:33.860
I think we should see them as reflections of God's grace.
03:49:39.200
Even fucking the most virtuous, godly, the most Christian woman you could ever find would still have a looks preference.
03:49:49.060
This is completely horse shit, dog shit, bullshit.
03:49:52.000
Even religious women are going to look at a guy and like decide to date him, perhaps on a variety of things.
03:49:59.560
But they're definitely like this idea that really Christian women are just like going to give the super ugly guy a chance because he's super Christian.
03:50:13.760
What I'm trying to say is the only person or thing that will see you as a 10 is God.
03:50:25.140
I mean, yeah, another human could see you as a 10 if you really love them that much.
03:50:30.020
But I mean, it's very rare for another human to see you as a perfect 10 out of 10 because everybody truly has their flaws.
03:50:37.880
If you really look at somebody that deeply, if you look at yourself that deeply in the mirror, you're going to see your own flaws that you don't like, that you want to change.
03:50:46.680
But you will eventually, if you have the right mindset, learn to love them and accept them.
03:50:53.440
It's not to fully say that you don't accept your flaws.
03:50:56.020
I know I'm average, but it doesn't mean I'm not pretty.
03:51:03.220
But based on who the most attractive woman in the world is, do I have any comparison to her?
03:51:14.400
I just think it's inevitable of us to see a person and to rate them and be like, oh, he's this.
03:51:23.700
It's kind of like, I feel like it's a reaction that happens in the brain.
03:51:27.660
Because he, I think he said, I completely agree with the fact that we don't even control, like that happens in our brain.
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That we decide like, oh, this person is attractive to me.
03:51:46.900
I don't think every woman is a 10 out of 10 looks wise.
03:51:53.580
I don't think every man is a 10 out of 10 looks wise.
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But that's, I find, there are some guys who I find attractive that if I tell my friend, I think that guy's cute.
03:52:08.100
And I'm like, something about him makes me attracted to you.
03:52:23.520
I do think that there was some overrating by some of the women at the table here.
03:52:29.600
And you were saying something about, what was it?
03:52:40.460
You were like, well, now something about, what was it?
03:52:51.220
Well, I'm going to do the segment where I give you guys my rating.
03:52:57.000
So look, I'm not going to be, even if I had disagreements with you, I'm going to be fair.
03:53:01.120
I'm not going to intentionally rate you super low because I don't even think I've had really any super strong disagreements with anybody tonight.
03:53:12.880
I'll give you some positive characteristics you have.
03:53:15.140
I'll give you maybe a negative or two characteristics you have.
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And I will give you, by the way, to be clear, it's on a scale of zero to 10.
03:53:24.740
Almost, I don't really think there are any women who are 10s.
03:53:28.120
I don't think there really are any women who are zeros.
03:53:32.340
That would mean you have, there's absolutely nothing redeeming or 10 just, I don't think exists, right?
03:53:48.580
Just want to, and five is not, doesn't mean you're ugly if you're five.
03:54:24.080
And I'm not going to be doing body because otherwise, whatever.
03:54:36.360
I, sometimes with the negatives, I don't want to go to, like, the most obvious ones.
03:54:39.740
The most obvious one because I feel like people are already aware of their own insecurities.
03:54:47.320
I'll rate each of you, but I can give you the sugar-coated version, or I could give you
03:55:04.820
That would be a fair, I think we each can give you our own ratings of yourself.
03:55:10.240
I should also, I guess I'll start with me a little bit.
03:55:21.060
Uh, I do good eye area, although lower eye area, kind of weak, um, need to lose weight.
03:55:28.160
I'm fat, dad bod, uh, big nose, uh, somewhat unbalanced facial thirds, definitely work on
03:55:43.340
Um, trying to think what else, uh, weak upper lip, I guess you could say.
03:55:53.740
A lot of white people have not the strongest lips, I guess.
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That's, those are my negatives for the, for that reason.
03:56:01.080
Honestly, if I don't lose weight soon, I think I'll probably end up downgrading to 4, 4, 4
03:56:06.140
Uh, need to lose weight for body and face though, because when you're gaining weight, you get,
03:56:27.920
I can be harsh with me, but, but I'll give you, I won't be that harsh with you guys.
03:56:37.100
So I would say, uh, uh, uh, as somebody who myself, I have a big nose, I can pretty, I
03:56:45.940
Uh, you know, the nose is not, the nose isn't too bad, but it, it, there is a bit of a bump.
03:56:54.820
If you look, you do have, it is a bit of a bulbous tip.
03:56:59.940
Um, so I think noses have a like pretty massive impact.
03:57:06.800
And I say this as somebody, my nose is big and bulb and all that shit.
03:57:13.840
Um, I would say overall good facial harmony, good facial symmetry.
03:57:19.900
Although I don't know if you like pencil them in a little bit, you have good, uh, above average
03:57:29.140
You have, uh, uh, you're from the side, the side profile.
03:57:41.860
Uh, lips, I want to say a slightly, perhaps slightly above average for a white woman.
03:57:51.300
I think filler looks no offense to any women here who have it.
03:58:10.600
Um, no, her, uh, can you turn your, to the side more?
03:58:25.040
I think, um, even though it, I guess, achieves the, the fullness, it looks weird.
03:58:31.580
It, you can tell like, and if you can tell it creates an uncanny valley, I don't recommend
03:58:36.920
I think, uh, even if you have really thin lip, I don't, I think the lip filler makes
03:58:42.360
This is, but this is my own aesthetic perspective.
03:58:48.860
So I think lip filler, if we're getting front profile, I think that that will, that can be
03:58:55.740
But as soon as you turn your head to the side, we can see that shit.
03:58:59.020
But even from the front, sometimes you can tell the lip filler aesthetically.
03:59:02.760
I actually think even if you have really thin lips, it's not, it's a negative.
03:59:12.560
Um, I'd probably give you a 5.5 or 6, somewhere around that region.
03:59:20.640
If you want to also provide a rating, I think six is, would probably be a fair rating, maybe
03:59:39.900
You are wearing quite a bit of makeup and you're wearing fake lashes, which is going to have,
03:59:44.940
which maybe we can do this again at the end of the show when we offer to let everybody
03:59:51.240
So when a woman's wearing a lot of makeup and I know you're wearing makeup too, but it's
03:59:58.340
It does make the face rating a little bit difficult.
04:00:00.900
Uh, but I can try to go off other things that makeup doesn't have as much of an impact
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for, uh, but make, there's quite, you're quite a substantial amount of makeup in the eye
04:00:12.760
area, which can change massively the, uh, appraisal of facial attractiveness.
04:00:24.640
Uh, you have above average to near striking blue eyes.
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I, uh, you, I, I like the aesthetics of your nose.
04:00:38.200
Some, uh, looks maxers would say it's maybe slightly, slightly on the big side, but I actually
04:00:46.460
think the shape is quite nice and you know, there's not a bump, but it is slightly, I think
04:00:53.980
it's a great nose, but some looks maxer types might be like, Oh, it's a bit, whatever.
04:01:09.920
Uh, uh, with the makeup, I'm assuming maybe some skin clarity issues, perhaps.
04:01:19.200
Um, um, um, I actually, this is my own preference, but some people, uh, I actually find like the
04:01:32.160
I think it's actually a plus some looks maxers would be like your, uh, cheeks are a little
04:01:39.400
chubby, but I actually think it's a positive, not, not negative.
04:01:54.800
Your interpupillary distance is a little bit off.
04:02:05.060
You could have a bit, uh, slight, perhaps a bit.
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Your lower third facial third is perhaps a little bit weak.
04:02:16.760
Um, your facial thirds are a little bit off, but otherwise, uh, overall pretty strong.
04:02:27.240
Chat, if you want to give your rating now, uh, I want to say 6.5, perhaps a seven.
04:02:41.000
I mean, you can be honest, but my eyes are not blue, by the way.
04:02:48.200
Um, well, it's a little hard for me to tell, but they are what?
04:02:53.780
I have heterochromia, uh, which means that my eyes are a different color.
04:02:58.700
One of my eyes is green and my other eye is, uh, hazel green.
04:03:05.720
Well, you are, the distance is a bit far, but your eyes are light, excuse me, light in any
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There, there are chats a little bit all over the place on this one.
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Um, but I would say 6.5 or 7, but you are wearing a lot of makeup.
04:03:42.060
I think 4.4.4 is, I don't know about the six thing or whatever.
04:03:52.260
So makeup will change somebody's appraisal of, uh, attractiveness.
04:04:03.660
I'd say slight under eye weakness in your under eye area.
04:04:10.020
Uh, for you, you also, because I know you have a bit of weakness in your under eye area,
04:04:14.620
although for your phenotype, I think you actually have really nice, uh, brown eyes.
04:04:19.760
Uh, you have a nice eye area, nice lips, no lip filler, right?
04:04:25.720
Um, I mean, you and me were, do you want the, you can be brutally honest.
04:04:32.800
You and me, look, uh, you're in better shape than I am, but we both, you know, we got to
04:04:37.620
We got to hit, we got to hit the weight watchers.
04:04:41.420
I'm the fuck Olympic, but look, we, we got to both lose a little weight.
04:04:44.540
And I think, um, you could definitely improve quite substantially if you thin down on your
04:04:50.660
But, um, and I say this as somebody, I need to lose weight.
04:04:56.020
Uh, so, you know, but, uh, I think, uh, you can see pretty massive gains in aesthetics.
04:05:03.200
Um, but yeah, but I agree with your assessment.
04:05:11.620
You, you said you were six face and then eight, eight, eight body, but I'm not going to do
04:05:29.460
Uh, can you turn your face to the side, other side?
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Uh, you have a strong, like strong Ramis, good lower third.
04:05:55.320
I thought the instructions told us to put on makeup.
04:06:08.100
So that means don't, you can't, we don't have time for you to put on, spend 20 minutes
04:06:12.160
in the bathroom upon arrival, putting on makeup.
04:06:18.360
We're fine with women wearing makeup to the podcast.
04:06:21.360
Um, but I don't think there's not specific instructions to, to wear makeup, but we say
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Don't be spending 20 hours putting on makeup, 20 minutes putting on makeup in the bathroom.
04:06:48.060
Uh, you have a bit of, uh, I would say your facial lower third is a bit weak.
04:06:56.060
So that basically just means like the, I don't know how to describe it exactly.
04:07:04.660
Cause you're using these terms that I'm like, what do you mean?
04:07:10.000
Basically you're the lower portion of, uh, yeah.
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I think I'd give you, uh, five, maybe a five, 5.5.
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Average to maybe a bit above average facial aesthetics.
04:07:46.240
Uh, I'd say, uh, you, uh, let's see, you gave yourself a five face average.
04:07:56.060
Um, I don't think you're far off, but, uh, what's your like background or you like German
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or Swiss or something or German and Italian and Italian, uh, strong blue eyes.
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Can, oh, scoot to the, Mary, you need to keep an eye on that.
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I think I have something in it and it really hurts actually.
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Uh, like, so the, obviously people have different phenotypes and they'll like, all feet, all
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phenotypes can be attractive by the way, just to be clear.
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Um, uh, but there are, you're going to have to rate differently, you know, based on these
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But, um, so I'm not, when I say like you can have striking dark eyes or striking, uh, brown
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eyes, for example, it's not just because you have blue eyes, but, um, good blue eyes, no
04:08:50.200
No, uh, your, your upper lip is actually stronger than your lower lip.
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So typically you want the lower lip to be a little bit bigger than the upper lip.
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You want a full, uh, full, is this autistic at this point?
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Uh, you, you want, you want both full upper lip and lower lip.
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Uh, maybe even almost too much on the small side, ever so slightly, ever so slightly.
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That's better than on it being too much on the big side.
04:09:47.600
Uh, you've aged, I actually think you've aged pretty well, uh, to be honest.
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So I think you underrated your facial attractiveness.
04:10:03.460
Can I have you just scoot to the table a little bit?
04:10:05.700
We've got the most beautiful woman at the table of all.
04:10:07.620
I guess besides a court, well, according to themselves.
04:10:14.660
You do have, uh, the, I referenced like the silent film era.
04:10:19.860
You do have like that sort of like way, way back Hollywood aesthetic to you.
04:10:32.420
Uh, so you have a strong, strong eyes, strong brown eyes.
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It's something I've had to like try and control before.
04:11:11.520
I don't know if you're over lining with your lipstick a little bit.
04:11:19.920
I want to say I would give you like the lips are a bit on above average side.
04:11:30.260
Uh, a bit of an indent on the chin, which I think typically for female attract,
04:11:34.940
I think also it's not the best for male males, but, um, I think typically going to be assessed
04:11:46.040
Uh, obviously as somebody who has a big nose, you probably know, uh, I would say probably
04:11:51.960
in terms of a fly point out, uh, the nose, right?
04:11:55.200
So you have a bit of, my nose makes a lot of money, a lot of money.
04:12:01.080
I mean, I know the, some of the models, they like the alien look or whatever.
04:12:04.320
Um, the catwalk girls are, I'm not saying you look like an alien, but sometimes the,
04:12:13.400
Uh, the high fashion, uh, by the way, it shouldn't be there like for, put it on another tab if
04:12:23.220
Um, so, uh, I, I would say probably the nose is going to throw off the facial harmony
04:12:32.180
Uh, again, I say this as somebody who it, it fucks up the facial harmony of my face.
04:12:41.680
Um, so I would say you also have the same, uh, kind of the, some of the same detriment
04:12:50.320
Um, what else you're, uh, I think you're lower, you have good jaw, but your lower third, I think
04:13:05.640
What does that mean for all of us that are confused about the lower third?
04:13:08.960
So in terms of facial proportions, um, like for example, you, it's not exact, but you'd
04:13:14.240
kind of want, uh, it's not exact, but so like facial thirds.
04:13:20.140
So basically from your chin to the bottom of your nose, or some people might say the lips
04:13:25.620
and then lips to the, uh, basically the center eye or low eye and then eye to forehead.
04:13:34.900
So I think your bottom, uh, third, basically the area, the area, the area between your bottom
04:13:42.320
lip and your chin is a bit on the small side proportionally.
04:13:45.540
So the proportions are, uh, slightly weak, I would say in that dimension, uh, good eyebrows.
04:13:53.820
So, um, uh, so, okay, uh, the rating, the rating, let's see here, uh, you gave yourself
04:14:09.580
Uh, I think I would give you, um, hmm, I think some people are going to criticize me
04:14:19.280
for this, but I would give you, uh, it's, it's actually a bit hard.
04:14:25.440
I think I would give you a six or 6.5, probably leaning to 6.5, but some people might say I'm
04:14:45.800
What did you give yourself a four, four, four, four across the board?
04:14:51.900
Well, I'll just kind of, my immediate, without like getting into the analysis breakdown, my
04:14:55.880
immediate knee jerk reaction is, um, I think you actually have like pretty strong potential.
04:15:07.020
I think you maybe underrated yourself a little bit, although you face the same problem that
04:15:11.440
I have is we both need to, uh, gain a, or it's not gain.
04:15:16.380
Um, I think, uh, lose weight, lose weight, uh, a little bit.
04:15:22.720
I think it's impacting your facial aesthetics a little bit.
04:15:25.600
Uh, I think you'd actually be, uh, you might actually, if you lost a bit of weight, you might
04:15:33.160
actually have the most aesthetic face at the table.
04:15:36.140
Uh, you have striking, striking eyes, although you are wearing the, is that just mascara or
04:15:53.780
Nose slight, slightly weak nose, slightly weak nose.
04:15:59.620
You have the lip filler disavow, um, not becoming of a Christian woman, I guess.
04:16:05.340
Uh, just, uh, do a straight face for me, not smiling.
04:16:16.300
I think the primary thing for you would be, uh, I think you could, you could ascend though.
04:16:23.420
If you lost weight, I think you could, you could potentially be, uh, in terms of facial
04:16:50.220
So I actually have very like low body fat in terms of working out.
04:17:00.920
I normally wouldn't ask this, but are you comfortable standing up?
04:17:22.380
Um, I can pull up my Instagram if needed for my gym pictures.
04:17:36.160
So I understand that you're, you're athletic and muscular, but I mean, no, I agree with you.
04:17:41.140
I do think I need to lose weight, especially my face.
04:17:43.780
So wait, what do we, I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
04:17:49.920
Uh, well, yeah, you could be a, a weightlifter as a woman, but still be fat.
04:17:54.320
I'm not saying you're fat by the way, but what I'm saying is, is that, um, just because you
04:18:01.760
go to the gym and strength train as a woman doesn't mean that in terms of maximum, like
04:18:08.580
looks maxing yourself, uh, you, you have to be a certain body fat percentage to maximize
04:18:22.020
I could definitely lose mass in a lot of places.
04:18:27.000
Um, in terms of rating, what did you give yourself?
04:18:34.120
Well, I kind of have to give you a rating where you're at, you're at currently.
04:18:38.180
Uh, I, I actually think you could probably maybe get to six or seven if you were like
04:18:43.080
maximized, uh, in terms of like losing some of the, uh, the weight a little bit.
04:18:54.160
I honestly, probably in terms of facial attractiveness, uh, I think five for now.
04:19:00.460
And then if you were to lose weight, you'd probably could get into six or seven, I think.
04:19:10.580
We have the eight here who's returning to the table.
04:19:17.600
The eight, um, I'm just gonna look in the TV actually.
04:19:25.620
That's not fair because the camera changes shape.
04:19:43.900
You have slight negative canthal tilts for your eyes.
04:19:47.600
You have a nice eye color, but the negative canthal tilt will overall probably create a negative,
04:19:53.680
slightly negative overall assessment of the eye area.
04:20:27.400
Hey, don't, don't shoot the messenger here, okay?
04:20:32.220
That's like the best rating that he's given to the whole table.
04:21:13.400
I don't think, you know, I'm just saying you're, I think generally I'd say you're average looking.
04:21:24.780
Wait, you didn't even say anything nice or mean about me.
04:21:40.000
I've been, I already took way too long for this segment, so, um, I don't know.
04:21:47.740
I feel some of you will be vindictive, though, for, to get revenge or whatever.
04:21:54.620
Um, but I do agree with the fact that you just mostly around the face, because I can't
04:22:00.220
tell if I was just seeing from your sweater, but I'd give you a 4.
04:22:05.700
With the hopes that you lose a little bit in the cheeks.
04:22:09.880
Pretty much anything y'all could say, I already know.
04:22:14.120
I was like, so that's why I wasn't vindictive, so.
04:22:42.520
I think I'm secure, but I acknowledge the flaws.
04:23:18.840
I saw one of them, and they called me a mud lover.
04:23:24.300
I'm not gonna go there, but, um, it's a bit racial, so I'm not really gonna.
04:23:30.960
Go there, but I'm sure you can figure out what they, what they mean.
04:23:33.520
You probably shouldn't read that, though, to be honest.
04:23:43.880
Your fans are quite opinionated and, uh, racist.
04:23:51.380
To call somebody a mud lover who's dating a black guy?
04:24:05.220
And now, congratulations, you've just invoked them to say it, even if they don't even give
04:24:10.140
But, um, I, I don't think because one or two or even a handful of people are saying things
04:24:15.420
in the chat that that would be, like, emblematic of the, you were saying the chat is racist
04:24:27.980
But from the comments that made it through is, uh, they were just quite interesting at
04:24:40.360
Let's, let's just, I feel like the platforms are probably gonna have an issue with that term.
04:24:48.200
I would say just don't take anything personally.
04:24:52.540
And to be fair to super chatters, even if we don't agree with the words they're saying
04:25:10.740
Somebody was saying something about, uh, oh, the vibe.
04:25:15.840
Um, something that, uh, you were saying with that guy who you'd spent like 11 days with
04:25:30.060
Uh, I mean, but you acknowledge that that was not a really ideal situation.
04:25:36.340
That's just like a crazy scenario, at least in the sense that I would not want to spend
04:25:51.260
Maybe if she's a really great, even then though, it's like.
04:25:56.020
But not like right off the bat, like just met and like.
04:26:06.080
But knowing each other is not like being next to each other.
04:26:12.460
And we both realized my social battery was just.
04:26:17.580
I literally at one point was like, I looked at him and I was like, you, I need me time.
04:26:26.220
Uh, Tabitha, we're going to go to some of your notes here really quick.
04:26:49.060
Because I was thinking, well, maybe your husband's.
04:26:50.900
I looked at your Instagram and your husband's white.
04:26:55.900
Every time we go somewhere or check into a hotel, everyone's like, you are not what we
04:27:03.280
Your, your white husband was adopted by Asian parent.
04:27:22.260
It's just, to me, bowing is more of a cultural thing.
04:27:27.860
Um, you know, every time I meet one of them or meet someone new in that culture, when
04:27:33.320
I was in Thailand, you, you bow as respect to me, it's more cultural than it is to my
04:27:41.640
Um, is anybody here familiar with the bow segment?
04:27:46.620
Um, I saw like a clip of it or something, but what does that even mean?
04:27:51.200
Maybe I should, I'll wait until everybody's like back from the table or whatever before
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So I'm going to just put that on pause just momentarily.
04:28:00.660
Let me just write down bow and then we'll get into it as soon as everybody's returned.
04:28:06.500
Does anybody else have a different disagreement that we can get into while we're waiting for
04:28:13.740
No, no, no, no, uh, you disagree with me on marriage.
04:28:21.280
Only because I don't, why don't, or I kind of know the answer, but explain again, why
04:28:33.460
I mean, primarily the potential financial consequences of divorce.
04:28:37.940
That would be, that's kind of my primary thing.
04:28:40.380
Um, then just pick the right woman who you will stay with.
04:28:49.440
So of the people who do get married, uh, we do know that, uh, I believe it's the majority
04:29:02.520
Well, there, look, I'm going to be charitable and I, so, okay.
04:29:06.460
But first time divorce or first time marriages, the likelihood of divorce is lower among them,
04:29:16.900
So what ends up kind of skewing, again, I'm going to be fair and charitable.
04:29:20.280
What ends up skewing these divorce statistics is people who've been married two, three, four
04:29:25.580
These people are way, like if you marry a second time, you're way more likely to get divorced,
04:29:30.520
married a third time, way more likely to get divorced.
04:29:32.860
First time marriages have a better success rate.
04:29:35.200
However, I find it still, I don't know if it's over 50, it might be 30, 40, who knows?
04:29:41.340
I still don't think that this is an acceptable risk that I'm willing to take.
04:29:46.620
So if somebody, if I was going to go skydiving and somebody told me there was even a 3% chance
04:29:51.540
of my parachute not working, there's not a chance in hell I'm going to go skydiving.
04:29:56.360
In this case, as relates to even first time marriages, I think it's 30%, 40%, maybe somebody
04:30:02.920
in the chat can tell me what the actual number is.
04:30:11.160
Do you think that the people who are getting married and who do end up getting divorced,
04:30:15.700
do you think going into that marriage, they, they're thinking, this is not the person for
04:30:24.800
No, they're probably thinking in that moment, this is the person for me.
04:30:33.440
So is your thing just not wanting to get married because you don't want to get divorced or because
04:30:38.960
you don't want to get divorced and have things taken from you from the divorce, like money?
04:30:47.860
So if you get married, that, that is, uh, basically creates a contract, right?
04:30:54.000
Uh, so in these circumstances, yeah, there would be financial risks involved.
04:31:01.640
But what if you can, you can't have a prenup signed of like, or written out of like, she
04:31:08.360
takes nothing that was yours that like, isn't that possible?
04:31:11.980
Well, there's a couple of things, especially I'm in trouble with the kind of dynamic I would
04:31:16.720
So I'll explain a bit about what I'd be looking for in terms of a dynamic.
04:31:21.180
Uh, I'm doing, I, I, I don't really reveal specifics, but let's just say I'm doing, uh,
04:31:29.200
And in the type of relationship dynamic I would want, uh, I would be desirous of, uh,
04:31:36.540
well, it's, I'm not a hundred percent opposed to dating a woman who has a job or career or
04:31:44.780
So like I'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A.
04:31:48.300
I'll date a girl who works, who doesn't even have a job.
04:31:52.440
Uh, her income, her job, her career don't matter to me.
04:31:56.800
I'm prepared to fully financially take care of everything.
04:32:00.040
However, if I get married, this would put me in a bit of a precarious position.
04:32:04.080
Now, the issue that I have isn't necessarily a man woman issue.
04:32:09.640
So whoever's the breadwinner, uh, that gives the other person, the relationship, massive
04:32:17.720
So I don't know the specifics, but my understanding is if you're like the primary breadwinner and
04:32:22.620
a divorce is initiated, not even factoring in, uh, what you might have to pay them.
04:32:28.940
Um, you also, the divorce process is quite expensive.
04:32:32.500
So you have to pay for your lawyer and you have to pay for their lawyer.
04:32:36.040
So it's not just, Oh, they're going to, your wife wants a divorce.
04:32:44.700
If you're in a situation like mine, perhaps, um, what if the woman earns more than you?
04:32:52.840
Oh, if she's a billionaire, you best believe she's getting proposed to trust.
04:33:04.420
However, although a woman who's a billionaire is probably going to be financially savvy enough.
04:33:09.560
Uh, of course I would never leave a woman who's a billionaire and I'd never divorce her.
04:33:13.840
You said no prenup, but what if she wants you to sign the prenup?
04:33:24.140
It's going to be a complete rule of, Oh, you don't love me?
04:33:35.580
What if you're the rich man and you found the woman and she does everything for you?
04:33:42.920
And you bring her this prenup and you, why would I bring her a prenup?
04:33:49.380
No, but if let's say you, let's say you actually like want to marry this woman and you bring
04:33:57.460
her this prenup and she doesn't throw a fit and she's like, okay, I'll sign it because
04:34:07.540
And she's not like, Oh my God, you don't love me.
04:34:10.880
Like, do you think that can happen or do you not believe that can happen?
04:34:17.180
That she would want that she would, that she would want to marry you and sign the prenup.
04:34:23.360
It's logically possible that a woman who would otherwise be interested in me and I would be
04:34:34.700
Um, that's probably not going to work out because I'm steadfast and stubborn on this.
04:34:40.960
Uh, it is possible that there could be a woman so remarkable, so attractive, so possessing
04:34:48.420
all the things that I care about that I would, it is possible I could be willing to get married.
04:34:58.560
I, even if she, if she's all those characteristics, um, what's going on?
04:35:07.940
Um, it's possible, but, uh, I just wouldn't, I don't see the point of it.
04:35:18.420
Um, I mean, cause I would date a submissive woman.
04:35:23.220
I mean, if she loves, and if she's submissive, she's going to defer to me on this.
04:35:26.720
If she loves, if she loves you that much, I mean, I do agree with you.
04:35:34.120
Well, I mean, I just, I ultimately just think, um, you could try to frame the leverage both
04:35:42.000
It's like, well, she won't stay with you if you don't get married.
04:35:48.420
But in terms of the economic risk of marriage, um, whoever the breadwinner is, uh, and a
04:35:58.060
Uh, although there's a couple differences here.
04:36:01.000
I think, uh, women feel way more entitled to men's money than the reverse.
04:36:06.620
So even if the woman's like wealthy, to be fair, like there are women who ends up paying
04:36:12.300
Men are far less likely to, uh, go after child support.
04:36:18.480
Men, um, to be clear, men do go after these things, but men are much more likely to be
04:36:39.120
Not all women, but they, it's more common among women.
04:36:44.200
But also, even regardless of what you, you think, once you get lawyers involved and you're
04:36:50.200
going to need lawyers for marriage for, uh, excuse me, you're going to need, uh, lawyers
04:36:56.980
But you could be the most well-intentioned man or woman dating a breadwinner or whatever
04:37:02.200
you get, you're a lawyer in the picture who has a financial incentive because, you know,
04:37:07.140
based on the settlement of whatever, uh, I think they can get some, you know, extra portion.
04:37:15.940
Lawyers are practiced in the art of influence and persuasion.
04:37:19.200
Even if you're a good intentioned woman, even if you're a good intentioned man, is your
04:37:26.980
You put a naive woman in front of a fucking high powered divorce attorney and you think,
04:37:34.220
and she's no longer under the influence of her husband.
04:37:37.720
Now she's under the influence of her divorce attorney.
04:37:41.420
A naive woman, it's her first divorce is going to get completely fucking bulldozed by an attorney.
04:37:49.140
The attorney is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
04:37:54.200
Even the good intentioned woman who's like inclined to be like, wipe her hands clean.
04:38:00.700
Nah, she's going to get, the lawyer is going to be like, nah, we're going to get you money.
04:38:05.980
Oh, think about, you know, think about X, Y, Z.
04:38:13.860
Not always, because if I was in that position, I would not be convinced.
04:38:21.440
And then circumstances, even brother, there's women will, will tell their husbands.
04:38:35.320
Why would it have anything to do with trust issues?
04:38:44.540
Well, to me, it just sounds like you're not even totally against marriage.
04:38:46.900
You just need the right circumstances or someone who's financially just equal to you, I guess.
04:38:54.060
Um, but I mean, if, um, I, well, look, I, here's what I believe.
04:38:59.340
I can be with someone, all the things that you can have in marriage.
04:39:18.340
There's some marriage confers some benefits, but I don't think those benefits, oh, tax
04:39:24.900
purposes, blah, blah, blah, whatever, uh, healthcare circumstances.
04:39:29.160
There are some circumstances, like if you were to die and, you know, related to your
04:39:33.580
estate and how money flows after you die, but then I'm dead.
04:39:37.560
Who gives, well, I shouldn't say who gives a fuck.
04:39:40.280
Obviously you want, you know, people have wills and for a reason you want your money to go to
04:39:45.820
Um, but, uh, I think those are really minimal compared to the, the risk of what happens
04:39:54.320
It seemed like you wanted to come in on something.
04:39:56.860
I was wondering if you had ever thought about, okay, well, I guess I should proposition this
04:40:02.480
I know, um, I will, I know a couple that is a very, very wealthy man, um, multi, multi,
04:40:10.360
And him and his wife actually, well, they've been together 25 years.
04:40:15.500
They have two kids and come to find out they're not actually married.
04:40:18.140
They have a contract that they renew every year.
04:40:23.080
They just renew whatever contract and they have different terms that they discuss and
04:40:29.080
And so it's almost like more romantic because they're like forcing to commit and like come
04:40:36.520
together every year and say, okay, like, do we still want to do this basically?
04:40:39.360
And then they both have an out if they want out.
04:40:43.040
Uh, and the guy's the breadwinner, the guy's the wealthy one.
04:40:49.660
This, I mean, I'm assuming the contract is, she's not getting nothing, right?
04:40:56.660
No, I mean, she, I mean, she had his, his kids.
04:41:01.740
And then obviously like they live together, they still live in the same place, but they
04:41:06.720
haven't actually like been together in years except to make their children.
04:41:11.980
It's very interesting, but you could do something like that, you know, a little contract or whatever.
04:41:17.580
That's it's, it's in essence, basically a marriage like the, in terms of the legal ramifications,
04:41:24.200
I don't know the details of their, whatever they have.
04:41:26.860
I don't know the full details, but just an idea for you.
04:41:28.740
No, I wouldn't have a contract with who I'm with.
04:41:32.740
Well, that would only benefit her, wouldn't it?
04:41:38.080
Honestly, because I don't know what their, I don't know what their terms look like.
04:41:41.360
Well, I mean, I'm, what I would infer is if she leaves, he pays her money.
04:41:49.200
What other contract would there, he's the breadwinner.
04:41:54.300
If she leaves or he leaves, she gets money in either scenario.
04:42:03.840
If she really cared about the person and she hasn't been working for years.
04:42:06.580
I will, if, if, if we split and maybe it's my decision, maybe even if it's her decision,
04:42:14.340
I would perhaps voluntarily support her, voluntarily.
04:42:33.840
If I left her and we had kids and she didn't work, I would volunteer, I leave her and she's
04:42:46.800
I can't imagine why I would, but, uh, under these circumstances, I would feel comfortable
04:42:55.120
But as soon as you introduce a contract, oh, she, she, she cheated on me.
04:43:26.240
Would you like have a wedding, but not sign a legal document?
04:43:30.080
So then like you come together and agree for life.
04:43:32.900
Let's say I, I, I mean, I'm not sure if a Christian woman would date me given my current
04:43:39.580
I say, I don't believe yet, which means I'm leaving room open for there being the possibility
04:43:47.940
Um, if I, uh, a Christian woman who was fantastic and I liked her, she liked me, um, and to satisfy
04:43:59.760
something for her, she wanted to get married like in a church and this had no legal ramifications.
04:44:17.000
Look, if it's small, I think that's the way to do it.
04:44:19.820
If it's small and a mod, like modest expenditure, then yeah, sure.
04:44:27.500
But some extravagant wedding and it's like, I would think to myself, Hmm, this is one day
04:44:39.040
We can get, do something for our kids, our kids, future, our future, travel, a car.
04:44:50.320
These people who spend 50,000, a hundred thousand more on a wedding, that money can be better
04:44:56.880
I'd rather put into fucking crypto than spend that shit on a wedding.
04:45:07.540
I mean, to me, you, like, it's what I said, like you, you're down, I guess, for marriage
04:45:13.520
So I guess like, all right, that's good enough for me.
04:45:16.920
Well, I mean, the hypothetical would be like, either she's, I don't know, perfect, which
04:45:24.720
doesn't exist, or she's like way wealthier than I am, then you best believe I want to
04:45:40.460
I still think that there would be, even if we earn the same amount of money, I still
04:45:47.460
think that there can be financial consequences because you still get the lawyers involved
04:46:00.380
Then you'd still fight, there'd still be stuff to fight about and I don't know.
04:46:06.380
It would be, even if you make the same amount of money, it would still be expensive to get
04:46:23.720
But you just said you were down for it if those circumstances were correct.
04:46:27.680
Oh yeah, if she's a billionaire, yeah, we can get married.
04:47:12.960
She's too plastic, and she's got a history, and...
04:47:21.060
Oh my god, she's so smart, I really want to fuck her.
04:47:31.440
It would be nice if they cared a little bit about it.
04:47:34.300
In terms of your attractiveness, it doesn't matter.
04:47:40.320
You don't think intelligence makes a woman more attractive?
04:47:46.220
You don't think if you can have like a conversation?
04:47:47.900
Well, to be clear, I think intelligence is a positive trait, and in terms of for the benefit
04:47:57.900
of your children, because I think intelligence to some degree is genetic, it would confer benefits
04:48:06.620
It is a positive trait, but like in terms of that raw, like...
04:48:15.560
I think whatever she did to get Jeff Bezos was very smart.
04:48:33.840
Well, yeah, but I don't think you should be like breaking up a marriage, or a relationship
04:48:46.080
Okay, but I mean, yeah, I just don't really care about that, to be honest.
04:48:55.200
I mean, I said on my pre-notes, I don't think I can convince you, so, but I still think...
04:49:00.720
No, no, I'm responding to like the intelligence thing.
04:49:06.740
I think they might not think they care, but biologically, they want their children to
04:49:14.600
Yeah, so I think attraction in itself is kind of like, the whole point of it is to have...
04:49:18.740
Well, here, let me propose a question to the women on the panel.
04:49:25.560
If a man had a choice between a woman who was 10 out of 10, but had a slightly below average
04:49:34.080
IQ, not like retarded, but like below average, so what's the average?
04:49:43.240
Let's just say, I mean, I could even say like she has an average IQ, but she's a 10.
04:49:49.240
Or, he can date like a fucking Mensa, genius woman who's like a 6 out of 10, or maybe even
04:50:14.120
I definitely think men will choose the more attractive woman than the, like the less one
04:50:20.620
with the smarter, simply because, well, actually what I think men look for is like a female
04:50:28.880
With like, my husband's my best friend, and I don't know, like, if you're, when I think
04:50:35.240
about it that way, like in terms of attractiveness versus intelligence, I mean, you have, you can
04:50:42.720
have below average best friends, and that's like intelligence, that's fine.
04:50:46.260
But like, so in that case, well, then yeah, that attractiveness is the most important because
04:50:53.120
With the drastic difference with what you said, I think yes, men would definitely choose like
04:50:58.560
the slightly below average intelligence 10 out of 10, for sure.
04:51:14.440
I think a man feels, I agree, but because I think a man sometimes does not like to be
04:51:28.900
And sometimes when, it starts off with attractiveness, and then once the woman opens her mouth, sometimes
04:51:34.320
they're like, actually, I don't know about all that.
04:51:36.620
Well, I think you can be so stupid, you're a liability.
04:51:41.580
Like there are women who are like, even if they're really beautiful, I don't even know
04:51:46.340
if it's necessarily about intelligence, but it's also would be about, like vanity or, I'm
04:52:08.340
I would also say, yeah, I agree on the, they would pick the 10 out of 10.
04:52:16.780
I'm going to give you a counter example, though.
04:52:19.780
If there were two 10 out of 10 looks, and one was stupid, or one was below average IQ,
04:52:28.300
and one was intelligent, I do feel he would pick the one that's more intelligent.
04:52:36.800
So if you have like two women who are equivalent looks, one's stupid, one's intelligent.
04:52:48.480
You said that the guy doesn't want to be like, but I also think this goes the other way, too.
04:52:56.440
Men are okay dating women who are less intelligent than them.
04:53:01.000
I think it's real tough for a woman to date a guy who's less intelligent than them.
04:53:06.060
So it kind of goes like both ways a little bit.
04:53:09.140
So it starts off with a level of attractiveness, and then you get to know the person.
04:53:17.740
But I think, though, for your example that you gave, I do sometimes think intelligence, it
04:53:26.140
depends what we mean by intelligence, but sometimes intelligence isn't always a good thing.
04:53:33.580
That might seem, like, so I tend to generally agree, but I also think there, it depends.
04:53:40.980
Can I rephrase your question, or a question involving this?
04:53:45.220
Do you think that stupidity makes women less attractive?
04:53:53.160
I guess it depends what we mean, like, how stupid, depends what we mean by stupidity.
04:53:57.080
Just like a total dumb blonde ditzy, doesn't know common sense.
04:54:01.660
I think some people might actually find that endearing.
04:54:05.240
But I think it depends on the scope and the scale of how intelligent or how stupid or what
04:54:18.480
Because I think, for example, I think highly intelligent people sometimes, perhaps through
04:54:25.900
no fault of their own, open themselves to mental illness in ways that somebody who is, let's
04:54:32.100
say, simple, doesn't have the same level of existential dread and...
04:54:43.480
Uh, I'm trying to think how I would best frame this.
04:54:47.040
I think sometimes very intelligent people, uh, how do I, there's, there's a psychological
04:54:56.800
term for this, but I don't know what it, it's evading me.
04:55:01.840
Like, you know, this idea of torture genius, like somebody who's so intelligent, who's, but
04:55:07.540
sometimes when you're highly intelligent, you can be a bit in your head.
04:55:14.080
Like, um, uh, man, there's this great saying, like, uh, I mean, it's like, you're not able
04:55:21.900
to communicate with anyone because you're too smart.
04:55:33.380
Um, like, uh, but I'm trying to, there's a specific term for it.
04:55:39.880
I do think sometimes highly, highly intelligent people.
04:55:49.360
I think really smart, high IQ, intelligent people can sometimes be inflicted with self
04:55:56.880
Whereas I think like dumb people are so fucking confident sometimes that, that
04:56:03.120
there's something that they're not to say that highly intelligent people can't be confident,
04:56:08.720
but I think that people who air more on like, perhaps who have lower intelligence, that there
04:56:21.760
Whereas somebody who's highly intelligent is more likely to be very introspective, not to
04:56:26.720
say they're introverted, but they're, they're more likely to be introspective and be more
04:56:32.320
And that can be a good thing, but it can also be like, like, I don't know.
04:56:37.880
You can be anxious or you can be like, think everything overthinker and these sorts of
04:56:46.740
So, and some of y'all really intelligent women, you're just neurotic.
04:56:49.760
Like, like, you're just like, fucking upper, like, analyzing shit.
04:56:56.620
Whereas like a simple woman, you know, she's just a little simple, you know, she looks past
04:57:12.740
Am I kind of onto something or am I full of shit?
04:57:28.640
Besides that, but not everyone can see that until, you know.
04:57:35.420
Is that like something you walk up and you're like, yes, I can tell you have one.
04:57:39.040
I don't even want to be like jumping to bed with her and she's got like small labia.
04:57:45.640
It's not, it's not a deal breaker, but, um, uh, look, innies are nice.
04:58:08.840
Personality and outward looks that we can all see not what we would see if we were.
04:58:24.140
Cause you, there was a question you asked, like, what's my height and what's the minimum
04:58:35.560
Well, no, but I'm saying like, I think overall men don't care all that much about height.
04:58:44.860
Uh, but there are some men who might be like, oh, I wouldn't date a girl taller than me.
04:58:49.620
In fact, I think that would be, uh, I mean, in terms of like for your kids, then yeah, that's
04:58:59.540
Like I, so I would date a woman taller than me and I wouldn't have some sort of like insecurity
04:59:08.600
I don't know how, I don't know if a taller woman than you would be necessarily super submissive.
04:59:17.180
She'd be like, I don't think you're completely wrong.
04:59:25.300
Like, I think, um, in terms of physicality, like sure, there is a component of like, if
04:59:32.040
the guy is more like physically dominant, for example, then, uh, that can confer some
04:59:39.020
But a woman could be submissive, uh, to a man who's, I guess, smaller than her actually.
04:59:45.320
Um, but I, I think you're onto something there, but I don't think it's, I've been telling you
04:59:49.080
throughout our conversation, I've been trying to gauge like what kind of like person you
04:59:57.920
Large labia, large labia, uh, attractive, simp, uh, and she has to, oh, we have to do
05:00:10.760
Look, if she's attractive, if she's attractive, she's attractive.
05:00:14.460
I'm also aware that, and look, I think we have to look at the totality, right?
05:00:19.860
So, um, like I'm an average, average, or I guess technically below average looking guy.
05:00:24.600
So like, I'm not like holding out for some fucking supermodel.
05:00:29.100
I realized that I, you know, that's probably not on the cards for me.
05:00:32.760
Although, Hey, you know, I'm not going to turn one down.
05:00:35.600
Let's just say, um, but, uh, submissive, simp, um, pleasant, do you, acts of service
05:00:52.200
Uh, and also guys, remember she has to respond right away, but he can respond.
05:00:59.740
I was joking a little bit about that, but, um, pleasant.
05:01:05.600
Like, I, I, I cannot do the like toxic, bratty, sarcastic, um, high friction, high conflict
05:01:24.520
Um, some women think it's like cute to be like, to be clear when I say sarcastic, like
05:01:30.140
if you're making a joke and it's a bit sarcastic, like that's not an issue.
05:01:33.020
But if you're being like sarcastic in a way that's like, uh, uh, rich retributive, that's
05:01:40.660
sort of like, I don't know, like you being passive aggressive.
05:01:49.620
So that's going to be a major, I mean, it's not, it's not going to be a major issue.
05:01:54.100
Um, so I, I can't do high conflict, high friction relationships.
05:01:58.500
So somebody who's going to be, who's going to be in peace, who's going to defer to my,
05:02:22.900
But she has to, well, ideally yes, but she actually has to not just yes, but secretly not
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She has, no, she has to like actually be on board.
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Like I don't want a girl who's like doing shit, uh, like she's obsessed with making you
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What's the word for, for somebody who does something like, oh, begrudging.
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No, she has to be like, she needs to suck the dick.
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Like I don't want, I don't want a, a, a chore blow job is, I guess, you know, she, she
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Not because she loves the dick, but because she just wants to make you happy.
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But like, I would keep her around as like a concubine, you know?
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Like her, like she could be, you know, she could be like my mistress and like, I would, I would,
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you know, take care of the, you know, she'd help with the chores in the house and she'd
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She'd be like, it's not quite polygamy, but I'd keep her on the side.
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And so I've like, you know, like for, for her, like if a woman doesn't want kids, you
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Sorry, I didn't mean to make things awkward there.
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Like in a man, like on paper, if he's perfect, but this is what.
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Cause like, I'm so like single focused on my man.
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Like, I'm like, he needs, he wants to wake me up at 3am so I can make him a sandwich.
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And he's like, and in turn, he takes care of me.
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So I, I love the dynamic because we understand each other's rules that we are not equal,
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And we just had that understanding and we mesh really well.
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Um, my man is just like, just everything that you can imagine, like a man's man, like he's
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assertive, um, but without being like overbearing, but he leads me, he guides me.
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Um, and then, you know, just in general, he, he knew who he was without anyone else.
05:05:41.460
And he just was confident and sexy and just like everything.
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So everything that like you imagine your little girl, like it was like manifested into this
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So I feel like once you find that person, like that's, you know, you know what I mean?
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Everybody always is like, Oh, when you know, you know, and it sounds so cliche and stupid,
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And like when, again, when you like meet that person and you feel these things that you've
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never felt before, they just, it just changes like who you are.
05:06:14.900
You like want to be better yourself for that person.
05:06:18.720
I feel like as long as a man is not like being feminine himself, like he's acting like a
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Like I cannot deal with a person if they're like that.
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I, um, just on paper, I would love somebody who respects me and is kind to me and takes good
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But I was also talking about like eye color, hair color.
05:07:16.960
Every man I've ever been with has been either my exact height or shorter than me.
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I like men that look like they can throw me through drywall.
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He doesn't have to be the biggest, strongest, scariest person to protect me.
05:08:05.900
But I actually do think, and I strongly believe that a woman should be able to completely
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provide for herself, make her own finances, be able to support herself without a man.
05:08:19.260
You should be able to, but when you find that person that wants to do it, it's an incredible
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When we got pregnant with our first, it was like my husband just went into high gear and
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And it was just the most amazing feeling that he wanted to protect us and provide for us.
05:08:39.440
And we have exceptional kids because I get to be home with them.
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Honestly, that probably does not resonate with me because whenever someone was trying and
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maybe like trying to take care of me, I'm like, like, oh, well, you're so young.
05:09:04.100
I've done everything on my own, but it was just this feeling when he took over, it was
05:09:14.600
Wait, isn't it like more traditional in Russia though?
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Not the first time I've been asked, offered that.
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I had a guy on, we weren't even on a date or anything.
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I was meeting him for a work thing and we were discussing something about work and he
05:09:50.300
And then he, you know, I mentioned the thing where I don't want to have kids, whatever.
05:09:54.140
Went through my whole explanation and he was like, well, so you fit into this other category
05:09:58.120
and basically was like, you could be my mistress and I'll pay for you and support you and everything.
05:10:09.600
Yeah, I mean, I would say that, I mean, I definitely do want kids, but if I, you know, whatever,
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if it didn't happen, then I'd be like, I'd be okay.
05:10:39.720
What if your sons one day or daughters one day ask why you're not married to their mommy?
05:10:48.320
Yeah, well, their friends have mommies and daddies that are married.
05:10:50.980
I mean, what if they ask, why aren't you married to my mommy?
05:10:54.780
I'd be like, well, that other couple over there, she's fucking cheating on her husband.
05:11:07.260
Look, I'm fine with monogamy, but I'm just saying, you know.
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I think removing religion from the conversation, right?
05:11:16.120
I think if you were to ask most guys, ooh, that actually reminds me.
05:11:21.040
I want to do this new segment that we've never done.
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I think if you ask most men, see, I'm, pretend, look at it like this, and this will be the
05:11:39.680
I've got a podcast where, honestly, the more honest I am, the better.
05:11:43.700
Most men are not going to be honest about what they really think.
05:11:48.780
And, well, especially not only that, even if in a one-on-one setting, but especially
05:11:52.520
publicly, most men, things are changing a little bit, but most men can't be fully honest
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about, well, a lot of things, whether it's politics, whether it's dating, because there
05:12:05.060
are pretty severe social ramifications, to be honest.
05:12:20.980
Like, I've already said all the, not all the controversial things, a lot of controversial
05:12:24.820
things, you know, so I don't really have too much to hold back.
05:12:30.700
But the point I was going to make was, I think if most men are honest, and they were dating
05:12:37.420
a woman, and that woman would be loyal to them and love them and nothing would change,
05:12:42.560
and that woman was okay with him seeing other women, he would do it.
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Like, if she was fine with it, and she was loyal, she stayed loyal to him, like she was
05:12:55.840
exclusive to him, but he could go out and sleep with other women, if most men are really
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being honest, and it wouldn't bother the woman, they'd be like, yeah, absolutely.
05:13:08.660
Well, I mean, you have to understand, I'm not speaking prescriptively.
05:13:11.980
I'm not saying what should be, I'm saying what is, I'm speaking descriptively.
05:13:18.000
It is the case that I think if you ask most women, most men, if your girlfriend, your wife
05:13:26.480
was totally cool with you sleeping with other women, so that the man could satisfy some base
05:13:33.200
evo-psych evolutionary urge to have variety, yeah, they would do it.
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But I am just saying, I think most men, I think you'd have to, it's hard to say.
05:14:04.560
I think, I don't know if, I think we would have to exclude Christian men, perhaps.
05:14:11.360
Maybe even Christian men would be fine with it.
05:14:15.600
I mean, it is in contradiction to Christianity, though, because Christianity calls for biblical
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But in terms of their desire, that's another question.
05:14:35.500
You're saying, like, for example, Charlie Kirk, you're saying that, like, he would, like,
05:14:40.180
in his most base desire, that's totally what he would want to, like, and, like, Matt Walsh,
05:14:43.700
Michael Knows, like, all these other Christian conservatives, like, that deep down inside,
05:14:49.820
Well, I don't think, so, because we're highly intelligent creatures, humans, I don't think
05:14:54.800
we are beholden to our base evo, evolutionary psychology, biological drives.
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But this idea that through the social construction of marriage, that this completely diminishes
05:15:14.080
a man's physical or sexual attraction to other women, I mean, I just, it doesn't, of course,
05:15:26.980
men can be loyal, men are loyal, but this idea that, you know, if there was a, you know,
05:15:34.180
if it was, for example, women were just totally fine with it.
05:15:45.260
I mean, I think most men would do anything to have their cake and eat it too, and to have
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Well, I mean, I think this also applies to women, and we actually do, we do see this played
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out quite a bit, so I think typically what you'll see happen, and this is actually an
05:16:02.600
evolutionary strategy, so what women do, you don't like it when I talk about what men do,
05:16:11.080
So women would want to get impregnated by, like, the most, uh, if it was totally up to
05:16:16.680
them, women would want to get impregnated by the most fit, and I don't necessarily mean,
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uh, necessarily, like, you bodybuild or whatever, like, women would want to get impregnated by
05:16:29.600
the most dominant, the most physically attractive, the largest, and the most, so that would somewhat
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relate to, um, uh, you know, physical size or whatever, and then you have, uh, knowing
05:16:44.820
that that guy who's, who's the most physically, uh, fit, and I use fit, fitness in an evolutionary
05:16:52.360
context, uh, and then they find another guy who's not the father to take care of, to be,
05:16:58.640
like, the good, dutiful husband who's going to do the dishes. I think that that's women's
05:17:06.000
evolutionary strategy, but that does not fly. That doesn't fly. I have a question. Yeah.
05:17:13.160
Who do you think is more, who do you think is going to cheat first, like, a woman? I don't know.
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Emotionally, women, physically, men. I'm not sure if that's true. Women are also really good at
05:17:27.500
hiding it. What is emotional cheating? When you're, like, catching feelings for another guy,
05:17:31.840
even though you're with your partner. But that's inevitable. I mean, like, your feelings.
05:17:36.080
Thanks. Wait, wait, wait. Really quick before we move off, before we move off of this. So I do
05:17:41.440
think it's the case that basically you'll have, women will have this sort of mating strategy where
05:17:48.340
it's like, y'all get pregnant by some hot dude, whatever. I mean, here's the thing, right? Is
05:17:55.420
the ideal thing would be find the most fit man. And again, I'm not using like, he's, he could,
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it could be, he's like fucking Chad in the face or whatever that too. Um, you find the most fit man
05:18:10.120
to mate with, to have children with, but knowing that that guy has so much sexual options, he's
05:18:15.540
never going to be like the father. He's not going to commit to you because he has so many sexual
05:18:20.720
options. He's going to impregnate all these women. Why would he commit to you? Why would he invest
05:18:25.800
resources into you? But he'll give you the seed. So that would confer the most benefits for your
05:18:31.760
children, but, uh, well benefits in terms of, uh, fitness, but you also need to balance that with,
05:18:39.360
well, you also need the resources of a man to better be able for your own safety and security
05:18:44.920
and to be able to, uh, uh, in the most efficient and best way possible, raise your children.
05:18:56.600
You know, when I would, whenever I would start talking to a guy, I actually would tell him,
05:19:05.820
I'm like, if you want to see other people while we're seeing, this is not like us officially dating.
05:19:12.980
I'm like, I don't want to know about it. Don't just, you do you, I do my thing. And it's like,
05:19:18.920
until we become official, you're not tied to me. But I myself don't know if I would necessarily,
05:19:26.940
I might feel a little guilty. So like, I've always asked myself this question, would I allow
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my, my, my boyfriend to see other women and me myself just stay with my guy? Or if he's doing it,
05:19:42.960
then so can I. I mean, that's kind of respectful of each other. If you're like, okay, I don't want
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to know if it happens. Yeah. I just, I'm like, don't ask, don't tell type. But are you exclusive
05:19:53.740
to him? That's where, that's where I'm stuck. Like, would I be like, if I, if I genuinely love
05:20:00.540
the guy, like, do I feel satisfied enough to just be with him? Or do I need my needs to be,
05:20:06.760
met by other people? It's just like a, it's a question that I myself have thought of.
05:20:14.060
So it's. Well, I think there, there's a, maybe a evolutionary basis for a bit of a difference
05:20:20.180
here. So I think, look, I think promiscuity is bad in both men and women. So I don't think men or
05:20:28.560
women should be promiscuous. I think the ideal scenario is you find somebody when you're still
05:20:33.520
relatively young, you stay with them, you have kids with them if you can, or if you're inclined
05:20:38.420
to, but I think sleeping around high body counts, promiscuity, uh, I think it's bad on the individual
05:20:45.600
level. And I think it's really bad on the societal level. Like it's bad for society. And so for both
05:20:52.840
men and women, although I think it's a bit worse for in women, to be honest, maybe you call that a
05:20:56.800
double standard, but like in terms of the acceptability of like a man having multiple
05:21:03.960
women and you still being exclusive to him, I think in some ways, um, we've seen this as a
05:21:11.640
phenomenon that is more common, like in history than the reverse. So like Kings would have, I don't
05:21:19.540
know, some fucking warlord, whatever, we'll have multiple women. And I think that like, that's a sign
05:21:27.300
of like, good for him. Uh, hold on. I shouldn't say that, but I should say that, um, you see it more
05:21:34.300
often in history. Uh, however, the reverse is not quite as common and is like kind of gross, not gonna
05:21:43.460
lie. It's like frowned upon if it's the reverse. Well, I think part of it has to do with the, the, uh,
05:21:50.800
the children, like the paternity. So for example, prior to the 1980s, when DNA testing became a thing,
05:21:59.080
if I had 10 wives and let's just grant in the hypothetical that they're all loyal to me, right?
05:22:07.140
If I have 10 wives, we know who each of the mother is for all the children. And we know who,
05:22:13.340
I'm the father. We know who the father is for all the children. If a woman has 10 husbands,
05:22:19.160
who the fuck is the father? Who's the father? You don't, you can't know. So I think there's like,
05:22:26.140
for that reason, men are more invested in the, uh, loyalty of, because you don't want to be like,
05:22:37.020
let's say you get bamboozled and like, I'm dating a girl. I'm married to a girl. Meanwhile,
05:22:41.460
by the way, girls are, when it comes to cheating, you don't know that shit. Um, I mean, unless you're,
05:22:49.960
I mean, you can obviously girls get discovered cheating, of course, but women are typically a
05:22:55.420
little fucking clever about that shit. Um, what was I saying? Oh, um, okay. You're married to a woman.
05:23:02.860
She's cheating. Uh, she gets pregnant by the other guy. That's one of the biggest L's a guy can take
05:23:11.420
is thinking the kid is his thinking he's reproduced, thinking that's his lineage,
05:23:16.520
thinking that's his blood, pouring resources into a man, uh, a woman who isn't loyal to you
05:23:24.400
and pouring resources into a kid who isn't yours. Biggest L a guy can take that women can never
05:23:32.520
experience that. Cause if you get pregnant, you know, the kid's yours, right? So I think men are
05:23:37.660
just way more invested in female loyalty than the reverse because the ultimate manifestation and
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like you go, you know, ultimately you have kids with somebody. Again, I understand some people don't
05:23:48.520
want kids. That's fine. So I think that's why female promiscuity and female disloyalty is more
05:23:56.060
negatively appraised. Just saying, I don't know, whatever. You had something? Um, I think so. I,
05:24:07.420
um, why, well, I kind of already answered that. My questions fleeted out of my brain, actually.
05:24:18.520
Um, so. Oh, okay. Well, um, I, we, okay. We have to do the bow. We have to do some of the looks
05:24:23.880
stuff and then we have to do really quick though, since I brought it up big brother, Brian. So I'm
05:24:29.480
here. Maybe you've had something bouncing around your head either today or last week or last month
05:24:35.660
or last year, whatever it is. I will give you an unfiltered raw advice. I'll give you, it can be
05:24:41.820
dating advice. Maybe it's just a question you have. Maybe it's like, I don't know. It can be anything.
05:24:45.720
It could be dating. It could be relationships. It could be sex, whatever, anything you've always
05:24:49.560
been curious about. And you want the answer from a guy who's not trying to have sex with you
05:24:56.440
because men lie. If they're trying to have sex with you, like they'll placate and, you know,
05:25:04.300
you know, I have a question. Sure. Why don't men just tell you that they just want to have sex
05:25:12.060
with you and they're not interested in a relationship with you? Like, why can't you
05:25:15.180
just be like transparent about that? That's a good question. That's a good question. Because
05:25:17.660
some women would be like, all right, cool. Like that's fine. Cause earlier you told me that
05:25:22.580
they're just not interested in me like that. When I said the same thing basically. Yeah. So yeah,
05:25:29.000
yeah, no, it's a, it's a good question. I'll answer it. Uh, well, let me ask you this one
05:25:32.200
question and I'll give you some feedback, I guess. Um, in terms of what you're looking for,
05:25:38.060
like currently, um, if a guy, uh, who you otherwise were attracted to, but he just said
05:25:44.820
politely, he was like, look, um, I think you're attractive, but I just want to sleep with you
05:25:50.900
tonight and never speak to you again. And maybe you'd want to change the language there. So
05:25:55.300
that's maybe a little, just give it more charitable language, but that's the essence of what he's
05:26:01.540
getting at. Would you go for it? Probably not, but I would appreciate the honesty, you know,
05:26:08.400
but also, um, now what about this? What if a guy said something like, well, look, I don't want to
05:26:14.720
one night stand, but listen, um, uh, I'd have sex with you like 10 times, but then I'll probably
05:26:21.740
tire. No, that's a bit rude. That's a bit rude, but, um, that's the essence. Like you could make it
05:26:29.760
as flowery as you would like, but you said the guy should be honest, right? So the guy's like,
05:26:33.960
look, um, I see myself having sex with you 10 times and about 10 times. Would you go for that?
05:26:41.500
No. Okay. See, so they're afraid of being rejected, but a woman might, I might say no,
05:26:48.580
but someone else might say yes. But so look, and I, one thing on this, I think men,
05:26:55.120
well, I think a couple of, I think a lot of things, uh, I don't think men should lie about
05:27:01.440
their intentions. I think that that's wrong. So, and then I don't think you can argue to the
05:27:06.420
contrary. If a man in, in furtherance of just getting sex from you says, Hey, I'm looking for
05:27:15.260
something serious. I want a girlfriend. Um, I, you know, I'm have serious intentions with you for
05:27:22.280
you. And then he sleeps with you and it was a lie. Like, I think it's just be clear. One caveat,
05:27:30.000
a man could have those intentions with you. And then like, he sleeps with you and either there's
05:27:34.840
a lack of sexual compatibility or after sleeping with you. Um, I don't know. You, you, it could be
05:27:42.200
that or just your behavior. He's like, Oh, Whoa. Okay. There's new information. I don't like her
05:27:48.760
anymore. Like that can happen. But if it's clear, like the guy's clearly going into it with no lying,
05:27:56.560
be like, yes, of course I want a long-term relationship with you. He's being deceptive.
05:28:00.700
He's lying. That's wrong. Mention into it. Right. Um, but you're asking why they do it. Well,
05:28:08.020
they do it because they want to sleep with you. And I, I think, uh, it's, I don't think it's a
05:28:15.720
crime, but it's definitely, I think it's probably, uh, morally and ethically wrong, um, to mislead
05:28:24.120
somebody insofar as would you sleep with them had their true intentions been known? Well, uh, if the
05:28:33.100
answer is no, then they've bamboozled you, which is wrong. Uh, but they do it because, uh, yeah,
05:28:40.240
they're trying to have sex with you and that's wrong, but that's why they do it.
05:28:45.520
They're trying to play it safe. So they don't want you to say no beforehand. Like, because if you find
05:28:52.540
out you, you, he did just ask and you did just say, no, I would not do it if I knew it was just a
05:29:00.040
one nice time. Yeah. I mean, I also think that it's, um, I like, like I said, I mean, I might say
05:29:08.160
no, but someone else might say yes. Right. So I think I always, I don't know. Me personally,
05:29:12.960
I think transparency and honesty is the best policy always. Um, yeah. And look, I do think there are
05:29:18.780
negotiated friends with benefits dynamics that do occur. I don't think all men are doing this
05:29:25.100
misleading thing. Perhaps a lot are though. Um, but, uh, a common thing that men say that isn't
05:29:32.860
technically a lie, right? Is we'll see where it goes, which could be at the end of the night.
05:29:38.380
It could be 10 years from now, but you never know. Would that change your answer? If the answer you
05:29:43.600
got was, we'll see where it goes. I don't know. I feel like I've gotten that answer before. Um,
05:29:51.240
I ask a lot of questions on a first date. I've kind of like interrogate the person, which maybe
05:29:56.560
doesn't always come off great, but I would rather get all the bad shit out on the table and sort,
05:30:02.480
sort through that before we even go on a second date personally. Um, and so I think the, the,
05:30:08.880
we'll see where it goes for me. I've been, I've accepted that, but then it's usually,
05:30:14.520
um, you're not gonna get anything from me until we're like months in. Have you ever like had a
05:30:22.920
casual thing like a fling or? Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, also I think people also have this experience
05:30:29.100
and I don't know if you've had this experience, um, of the long-term relationships I've had,
05:30:34.260
I've had, and I've had multiple long-term relationships, like one year, five years,
05:30:38.800
two years. Um, it wasn't like, let's wait three months to have sex of my long-term relationships.
05:30:45.360
And I have very positive things to say about almost all my exes, except one. I don't say,
05:30:52.260
well, anyways, um, it wasn't, yeah, let's wait three months to have sex. It was like first,
05:30:58.620
second or third date. We had sex and I liked her. She liked me. We continued, continued seeing each
05:31:03.780
other. So, I mean, have you had that experience where it's like you meet a guy, you guys,
05:31:08.800
had sex early, pretty early on. And then you guys liked each other and became boyfriend,
05:31:15.260
girlfriend down the road. I have the person I'm thinking of in particular though, which is really
05:31:19.720
interesting. We were together for a year and a half. It was, but it was also me, um, meh and
05:31:25.940
awesome all at the same time. Um, yeah, we did, we had sex early on and we were together for a year
05:31:32.640
and a half, but he early on told me that it was just going to be a casual thing. And I was okay with
05:31:38.580
that with him whenever it started. Cause it kind of, the relationship started off like that. And
05:31:43.120
then all of a sudden he was at my door every single night and then it slowly kind of turned
05:31:47.480
into a relationship. And then kind of the way that ended, I think kind of like soured me for doing
05:31:53.420
that again. Um, because he basically ended up moving in with me and then I was like supporting him
05:32:02.980
kind of so. Yeah. Maybe another reason why men will do that again. I don't think it's right,
05:32:09.940
but I think, so I think, uh, men, when it comes to just casual sex, they will, men will fuck down.
05:32:20.200
Um, so what I mean by this is for men, let's say if a lower attractiveness to be sexually
05:32:29.400
competitive, uh, well either, I mean, uh, how do I frame this correctly? Uh, they might have to feign
05:32:37.600
romantic or long-term interest because like for a woman, let's say a woman just wants a one night
05:32:44.320
stand. I think women, when it comes to women can sleep outside their league, they typically can't
05:32:50.960
get relationships out of their league, but women can sleep outside their league. So women, let's say
05:32:56.880
a woman who's not otherwise that interested in a short-term thing, casual sex, a one night stand,
05:33:04.320
she's going to break that rule. If the, as the guy becomes more attractive. So a girl who's like,
05:33:11.380
doesn't really, wouldn't do a one night stand or wouldn't do friends with benefits. If the guy's
05:33:15.580
really attractive outside of her league and he's offering her the one night stand, offering her,
05:33:21.920
uh, friends with benefits, uh, she might bite on that, but like, whereas for, well, the difference
05:33:30.640
is for men, when men seek out casual sex, they'll go way down. Like for men, if it's just casual sex,
05:33:38.260
you basically have to be willing and this is going to sound bad. You got to just have a hold.
05:33:45.400
Uh, I mean, obviously look, the guy, look, obviously as a guy, even if you just want casual
05:33:49.120
sex, you'd want to maximize for the most attractive woman you can get, but men are willing to go
05:33:54.460
down. They'll go down. Like, so for example, I'll frame it like this. This is the best way I can frame
05:34:00.720
it. A guy, uh, well, how about this for you? Women hide it for you. Women in order for you to have sex
05:34:12.080
with a man, uh, in terms of his looks, his attractiveness in order for you to have sex with
05:34:17.840
him, he has to be at least good looking enough that you would be in a relationship with him.
05:34:23.720
Right. Yeah. Whereas for men, men will have sex with women that in terms of their, the woman's
05:34:33.300
attractiveness, he would be like on the sole basis of her looks, I would never consider being in a
05:34:38.740
relationship with her, but I would have sex with her. So this is, this is the big difference here.
05:34:45.960
This is the big dilemma. And so, uh, this causes a quite a few issues, but yeah.
05:34:58.360
Brother Brian. Yeah. Um, big brother, big brother, brother Brian. Um, so how would you go about like
05:35:06.040
filtering this then as a woman? Yeah. Uh, if you were a woman, how would you do this?
05:35:11.720
Yeah, that's a good question. And I, I actually acknowledge that women are kind of in, in a bind,
05:35:27.680
Because on one hand, if you're dealing with a really high, like a, a high tier guy, uh, he has no shortage,
05:35:37.900
shortage of sexual options and you're going to be less competitive. Uh, if you're pursuing,
05:35:45.020
well, not pursuing, but if, if you're interested in him and you're like holding back sex and like
05:35:51.660
women who are just as attractive as you or more attractive than you are giving him sex,
05:35:56.640
you're like deprioritized in terms of his rotation, in terms of what he wants.
05:36:01.880
So, but on the other hand, uh, if you do give the guy sex too soon and then he like, what happens?
05:36:11.580
He goes. So I think women are been a bit of a bind. I actually don't know what the solution is
05:36:16.780
absent a complete return. I mean, there isn't a good solution currently because on, on one hand,
05:36:26.300
I think if you withhold, withhold, withhold a lot of guys who might otherwise get into a relationship
05:36:32.500
with you, um, they're going to be like, ah, man, whatever. I'm not gonna too much work,
05:36:37.440
but he might otherwise end up your boyfriend if you did give him sex, but you're holding back,
05:36:41.980
holding back, holding back. He's like, ah, I want sex. I'll find a girl who will give me sex.
05:36:48.500
And then maybe she'll be my girlfriend. Uh, but you also have to balance that with,
05:36:53.280
you don't want to get played. You don't want to get used just for sex.
05:36:58.540
I think knowing like a background, like let's say you, you saw a Christian man, right? Or you,
05:37:03.600
the likelihood that this person is just, you know, in it for the sex is lowered. So, you know,
05:37:12.000
maybe lean there from personal experience and disagree. I don't think they were very Christian.
05:37:17.080
Yeah. Uh, I mean, I think there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of like lukewarm Christians who
05:37:25.080
engage in premarital sex all the time who want to have sex. There's Christian women who have Bible
05:37:32.300
verses in their Instagram who actually, I don't know if I'm not going to share any detail, but, um,
05:37:41.880
look, sometimes people are LARPing a little bit as Christians. So even if you do, I mean,
05:37:49.480
I think it's better than like, you're going to have probably a better shot with a Christian guy than
05:37:54.340
with like a lib liberal guy, atheist guy. But, but, uh, yeah, I don't, I actually don't know the
05:38:04.140
solution. The solution would have to be complete structural and societal upheaval. And you'd need
05:38:14.440
to have a return to, uh, no sex before marriage. And all women would have to enforce this because
05:38:23.360
if men only get sex within the confines of marriage, men will only pursue women. I mean,
05:38:34.620
there's some, look, I'll, there's some guys who will wait fucking years for pussy. I'm going to be
05:38:40.120
honest, but, um, that's kind of pathetic, but, um, in the sense that they just played the long game
05:38:48.900
dip. I think you would need to basically, in order to this sort of paradox, I guess that you're
05:38:57.080
presenting, we have to completely return to like universal, no sex until marriage because a man
05:39:05.620
wouldn't pursue a woman unless he had long-term interest in her because I mean, what else? But I
05:39:14.940
don't think that's going to happen. The cat's out of the bag. So I guess we're just fucked.
05:39:22.140
I don't have a solution. I think that's it. But, um, I think a good starting point you could,
05:39:29.060
I don't know, like, look, I'll also share my perspective though. Um, so, but to achieve what
05:39:38.580
you want to achieve, probably like, yes, we're going to wait to have sex. But from my perspective,
05:39:46.100
I actually like, I'll actually pass on women who don't want to have sex. Like just being honest,
05:39:52.260
I'll just pass. Like she doesn't, it depends a little bit though. Um, like if she's a virgin,
05:40:00.880
we can wait a little bit, but if she's like had sex before and like, I think the new guy doesn't
05:40:10.480
want different treatment. Like if I would feel a type of way, kind of like with her situation,
05:40:16.600
remember in the beginning of the show, you were saying there's these guys you, you hook up with,
05:40:22.480
have sex with quickly, right? Yeah. You've had that experience. Maybe it's the first date,
05:40:27.720
second date, third date, third time hanging out, whatever. We don't have to use date,
05:40:31.420
but first time, second time, third time hanging out, you fuck them. Meanwhile, you got guys you've
05:40:38.920
been dating. You're an interesting case. Just to be fair. You got a dude you've been seeing for six
05:40:45.880
months, a year, three years, whatever the fuck. And you haven't slept with him. Like I'd feel it.
05:40:51.580
I'd feel raw about that. Like I'm dating a, I'm dating a girl here. Here's the scenario.
05:40:57.720
Uh, I would pass on this girl. Not, not, I'll give you a hypothetical girl when I say I'll pass on
05:41:05.560
this girl. Uh, I meet a girl. I like her. I think she's attractive and maybe the second date,
05:41:15.180
third date, whatever, trying to move things forward, move things forward. And she's like,
05:41:19.140
Oh, um, I want to wait. And then maybe I might like, but if I knew that three, two months ago,
05:41:29.360
she had a one night stand, I'd be like, hold on, what's going on here? Like, I want something long
05:41:38.300
term with you because I'm not, I'm not interested, at least from my own perspective. She might not,
05:41:41.920
she might not, she might not believe me. She might not know, but I, one night stands are worthless to
05:41:47.460
me. Like I have no interest in it. I want continuity with a girl. Like it's useless to
05:41:53.500
me to just fuck a girl once. That's stupid. Like I believe I want something longterm with a girl.
05:41:59.880
So, but I also don't have any, like we can have sex quick. Like I'm fine with that.
05:42:06.440
Uh, where was I? Sorry. I'm losing my train of thought a little bit here.
05:42:10.900
Uh, I feel like, Oh yeah. Yeah. So I would feel a bit bent out of shape if like, Hey,
05:42:16.780
I'm interested in being with you. Um, you want to wait, but that's not a standard that you held
05:42:24.280
other men to. Yeah. Yeah. I would be like, I'd be pretty raw about that.
05:42:33.360
I think that's a personal thing, but I just, the thing of me, I just get a lot of mixed signals.
05:42:40.840
Like, I don't really know. Like what they're gay. The guys you're dating are gay. No, they
05:42:47.000
don't want to have sex with you. I just get mixed feelings. Like one day I kind of liked the person
05:42:52.600
I'm like attracted to them. And then the next time I'm like, okay, you know what?
05:42:57.680
I don't really like this person at all. And it's just, for instance, the guy, like I knew
05:43:03.200
for a year, the time we just met, like last year, I thought I liked him. And now this year
05:43:09.960
we met again and we literally meet once a year, which doesn't make any sense to me. I realized
05:43:15.680
that, you know, I actually don't have any feelings. And I was like, you know what?
05:43:23.040
I'm just gonna, I'm not gonna say anything essentially, just like breaking it, it off
05:43:29.740
absolutely. But I'm just gonna, just gonna like space out a little bit. Just, you know,
05:43:35.920
like, well, okay. I guess there's this phenomenon though, where, uh, I guess I was kind of balancing
05:43:44.040
the, the, I don't know if this is the right term, but like the female position versus the
05:43:51.680
male position. So for, in your case, like probably what's most advantageous to you would be to
05:43:59.680
wait. Uh, it might mean you might otherwise miss out on the guy who, you know, even if you do have
05:44:06.500
sex with him would otherwise would be in a relationship with you. But I also, I'm just
05:44:11.080
sharing my perspective, something that's analogous to your situation. Uh, I don't really believe in
05:44:17.440
waiting. I'm not saying it has to be the, like the first time we hang out, but if, uh, if I know a
05:44:26.280
girl I'm dealing with, like she, the last guy she dated her previous boyfriend, she hooked up with
05:44:32.540
him on the first or second date and you want to make me wait three months. I'm gonna be like,
05:44:36.460
I don't think she's all that interested. I don't think she has that desire. I feel it's a raw deal.
05:44:40.520
It's kind of like, I guess, let me ask you women this. Uh, and women do this a lot, by the way,
05:44:46.460
this is like a really consistent thing women do where you will have, and look, it's life's not fair,
05:44:52.900
right? Different people get different treatment. It is what it is. Um, how would you feel though?
05:44:59.820
If, uh, how's the best framing for this? Well, what's interesting is this sometimes with this,
05:45:05.960
this, uh, waiting for sex thing, you women will say, Oh, that guy wasn't serious.
05:45:12.500
So I gave him pussy right away. Like he was just for fun. Like I wasn't like, he was a jerk. He was an
05:45:19.620
asshole. Wait, so hold on. You reward, you reward the guy who we would argue was the least deserving
05:45:29.880
of sex. But now here, I'm the guy you want a long-term relationship with. Shouldn't, shouldn't
05:45:36.920
the guy that you want the long-term relationship with be the guy that you reward sexually?
05:45:42.300
Honestly, no, I, it's the thing. I don't really want a long-term relationship in general. Like I
05:45:49.460
don't, I don't like, it's the phenomenon I'm talking about here is that women will have one
05:45:58.060
night stands. Women will have friends with benefits. Uh, women will have, uh, you know, casual
05:46:03.620
sex and then they'll say, Oh, that guy, he was just casual. He was, um, uh, he was just for fun.
05:46:12.000
It wasn't, it wasn't anything serious. I don't, I didn't care about him, but I really care about
05:46:16.960
you. The guy who I want to have a long-term relationship with, we have to wait three months
05:46:21.620
and it seems so completely backwards. Like you shouldn't have given sex to this guy who was a
05:46:28.100
jerk or a dick or who you knew who, who was a fuck boy. I get that he was exciting and hot and
05:46:32.960
attractive, but, uh, you gave him sex. And here I am the guy who's prepared to give you commitment,
05:46:38.540
prepared to do all the things that like, uh, he wasn't it's, it's just, uh, this interesting
05:46:45.680
dynamic. It'd be the example I like to give is, um, imagine like a man who had a reputation
05:46:53.280
of spending. I know some women don't care that much about like gift giving or whatever,
05:46:58.740
or providing, but I think most women care about providing. So imagine a man who had a reputation
05:47:03.680
for spending obscene amounts of money on women. He had like no long-term interest in, but he just
05:47:10.300
wanted to fuck them. But then when he dates you, he says he won't spend a dime on you until you prove
05:47:17.440
yourself to him. Actually, I do see something. So from the, first of all, like starting with the
05:47:24.400
woman who does that, for instance, not, not me, but just a woman who would do that, like
05:47:29.680
hook up with a guy right away, but then he has to wait three months. That person who has to wait
05:47:35.760
three months, maybe she is studying him like as a person, because if they hooked up one day,
05:47:42.920
they might never meet again. So they might not know each other in future life. But in this instant,
05:47:48.420
if you want to like actually study a person, find out about what's his habits, what does he do? What
05:47:54.160
is he like, what are his intentions? If you're actually interested in like a long-term relationships.
05:48:00.920
So that way I would say those three months would be her essentially studying the person or him
05:48:09.860
studying her. Well, I mean, I just, okay. How about this? So the girls that I just see as just pure
05:48:18.220
fuck, let's assume that's the case. I don't like one night stands, but let's just say I was into that,
05:48:23.620
that I, that's just sex. I just want to fuck her once. I did all the extra shit. I bought her
05:48:31.100
flowers. I got her gifts. I took her out to a fancy dinner. And then when I come along and meet you,
05:48:37.880
the girl who I claim that I want something serious with, I want a relationship. I want to be boyfriend,
05:48:43.600
girlfriend. I take you to McDonald's and I never give you gifts. Wouldn't you as a woman be like,
05:48:49.300
hold on, I'm your, I'm your girlfriend. I should get the gifts, the trips, the vacation,
05:48:57.860
the nice dinner. You gave that to some fucking hoe. You gave that to a hoe and I'm your fucking
05:49:04.280
girlfriend. You women would be pissed. And I'm trying to say, that's kind of like, I don't know.
05:49:10.460
That's how I feel that. I think that's how men feel about this. I'm the guy here who wants to be your
05:49:15.500
boyfriend. And you want to, you want to give it away to fuck boy, the fuck boy. You want to give
05:49:22.120
it away to Sway Lee who just wants to fuck you and use you and who's got 20 other dudes, right?
05:49:29.200
Let me ask you a question. Would you fuck Sway Lee right away? You're 10. That's fucking crazy.
05:49:35.140
Would you fuck Sway Lee? Yeah. Okay. Do you think Sway Lee, be honest, Sway Lee, a fucking,
05:49:42.020
I don't think I've listened to this. Do you think the rapper Sway Lee is going to, wants to be your
05:49:48.860
boyfriend, girlfriend with you? I have to ask you. I think so. Okay. Do you think, look, I mean,
05:49:57.400
look, you're, you're an attractive gal, maybe, who knows? But like, I think these rappers,
05:50:01.380
they're kind of known for getting around a little bit. Like maybe that's only, you think, but, but like,
05:50:06.960
so, so Sway Lee, right? Right. Oh, wait, fuck. I lost. Oh my God. I had something so good, but I
05:50:13.920
just lost it. Um, it's okay. I need it. Shit. It was so good. It'll come back. Okay. Wait, wait,
05:50:20.380
wait. So I was asking, would you have sex with Sway Lee? Fuck. Oh my God. I lost it. I'm retarded.
05:50:27.020
Damn it. It's okay. Um, you wouldn't have sex quick with Sway Lee. What were you saying before
05:50:34.040
that? Well, you asked if he would get into a long-term relationship with me or not.
05:50:42.360
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think he would. Well, maybe that's, you said because they're
05:50:47.800
rappers, they usually not, that's biased opinion. So you think that, you think Chris, you think a
05:50:54.360
girl like goes to fuck Chris Brown? Like she has, she's has an expectation. He's going to be loyal.
05:51:01.360
You think girls fuck rappers and athletes? Like they, they know what the deal is. They know what,
05:51:06.760
they know what the deal is. You never know though. Okay. You never know. Oh my God. I had such a
05:51:11.960
fucking good point. I hate myself. Oh my God. I'm, it was so good and I've completely lost it.
05:51:17.720
It was something about Sway, Sway Lee. And I was going to do some
05:51:20.920
damn, what was it? It's sorry. I could have a moment of silence.
05:51:27.800
I actually think you make a very good point though, to that, to that whole thing. Like,
05:51:37.620
cause I've done, I will say I've been that girl. I've done both. I've, I've withheld enough not
05:51:41.560
for extended periods of time. And actually to your point, kind of to study the person. And so maybe I
05:51:48.480
should really rethink my strategy here. I don't know. What if like, now I'm thinking of this,
05:51:57.620
like what if the girl, she's like, or guy, and it's like this in the beginning, they're hooking
05:52:04.020
up with these people and they're going on these one night stands. And then they meet this person
05:52:11.380
and they're like, after, no, let me backtrack. They go on these one night stands and then, then they're
05:52:17.700
like, wow, maybe I shouldn't be doing this. Maybe I should be trying to meet the right person. And they
05:52:24.820
meet this person. They're like, okay, I'm going to make them wait. What if it's like that?
05:52:30.680
Uh, so I think it is fair to have a, a change of approach so long as it's genuine. Uh, but I think that
05:52:39.000
it would be frustrating as a guy to encounter, for example, like, let's say I meet a girl and
05:52:44.700
I like her and she likes me and she makes me wait. And then I find out, uh, Oh, a week before
05:52:51.320
she met me, she fucked Sway Lee. And like, for example, I would be incredibly frustrated if I was
05:52:59.040
dating her, for example, and she's like, well, Brian, uh, you're a swell guy. And we're gonna,
05:53:04.240
uh, uh, we're, I don't know. I'm going to investigate you and, uh, we're gonna, we're
05:53:09.420
gonna wait six months and I'm going to feel you out. And, and then, uh, we can, you're
05:53:14.380
going to have to invest all this time and energy and take me on a date, take me on dates and
05:53:18.880
do all X, Y, Z and do all the cute boyfriend. Oh, you want to go, uh, fucking, uh, we go, um,
05:53:26.400
ice skating and all the fucking, Oh my God. Yeah. I'm going to ask. And then, and then
05:53:32.840
I find out, hold on Sway Lee. She fucks Sway Lee in the fucking an hour. She's, she's
05:53:39.900
some groupie backstage. It's a complete asynchronous. I don't even know what the fuck I'm trying to
05:53:49.900
say. Asynchronous. Something, whatever. Figure it out. And, uh, it would just be so off putting.
05:53:56.100
And I think a lot of women will move that way though. They'll be like, it would, I don't
05:54:01.220
know. It's fucked up. Y'all fucked up. That's crazy shit. I mean, y'all be, y'all be given
05:54:10.360
the guy, like, look, ultimately the point is I would say to you Sway Lee, I saw a photo
05:54:18.340
that. I don't know that fucking guy. This guy is probably for not very deserve. I don't
05:54:23.960
know if deserving is the right word here. This guy doesn't want to be your commit to
05:54:28.280
you. You're going to give him some pussy for, for, for nothing. You just, I don't know.
05:54:34.740
That's crazy. By the way, you can do better. Come on. What the fuck you weirdo. What's going
05:54:38.880
on in Russia? Y'all Russians are fucking, uh, there's not enough black guys in Russia. What
05:54:43.880
the fuck? She's, she sees one black guy, one, she sees one black dude and like all
05:54:50.380
she, she hasn't, she's never seen for 15 years. She lived in Russia and never saw a
05:54:54.320
black person. The first black guy she sees, she's going to fuck him. Right. It's crazy,
05:54:59.440
bro. Anyways, look, you could do way better by the way. Maybe try, you could try, um, I
05:55:05.180
don't know who's like, uh, chopper or something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, someone of substance,
05:55:09.820
it's not like a finger. King Vaughn, King Vaughn is attractive. Look. King Vaughn is dead,
05:55:15.340
but he's attractive. Idris Elba. Talking about like on an attractiveness level, King Vaughn
05:55:22.760
is attractive. But like, imagine that, right? You're some, like, let's say you're some, like
05:55:27.400
a good guy and you see this striking Russian lady and you don't know that like the week before
05:55:33.540
she fucks Sway Lee, like, and like Sway Lee, like he's in, he's in his like fucking dressing
05:55:39.300
room or whatever before the show. And like, he's got a lot, he'd like some chicks like sucked
05:55:43.720
his dick right before. And then like Sway Lee comes on and he's off, he's fucking off of
05:55:48.920
the, what is it? The, the, the, the scissor or what do they call it? That's sorry. I'm a
05:55:54.660
fucking gen, I'm millennial. Uh, the lean. Yeah. The lean. Purple drink. Sway Lee's is off
05:56:01.080
the fucking lean. And he like with like a partially flaccid penis has sex with you because
05:56:06.880
he's on drugs. Right? So you can't even get fully erect. He like fucks you. And he's like,
05:56:11.780
get the fuck out bitch. And then that was, and then I have to be, I have to show up on
05:56:17.680
the night in shining armor. I have to show up with my chivalry and my horse and come and
05:56:24.060
I have to do all the fucking lame fucking simp boyfriend shit. And I got to wait three months
05:56:30.120
and then I found out y'all fuck Sway Lee. I did all this shit. I did all this shit.
05:56:38.000
Oh my gosh. I thought this woman was my, she was my, uh, she was my, what's the right term?
05:56:46.360
My diamond, my flower. And she fucked Sway Lee. I got to do all this shit. It's like, again,
05:56:53.920
I'll, I'll repeat the other one. Imagine a guy who he's like, I love you, babe. You're
05:57:00.180
the one I want to be with you. This, I could see this go in the distance. I, you're, you
05:57:05.700
could be the future wife of, uh, or mother of my kids. Like, I love you. Da, da, da, da,
05:57:10.680
da. And, uh, but then you find out, uh, but by the way, he never takes you on dates. He
05:57:17.600
doesn't give you gifts, whatever your love languages. I don't know. He doesn't seem all
05:57:22.620
that emotionally intelligent, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But then you find out he was
05:57:26.840
whatever the, your love language, whatever the things that you would want a guy to do,
05:57:30.500
he didn't really do much of them, but he did all of it just so he could hit some hood rat
05:57:37.040
once. Like imagine I'm just some fucking strumpet, you know, some, look, we got some classy women
05:57:43.380
here, very classy, right? Imagine some guy who's like, Oh yes, my dear, I'm going to
05:57:48.560
make love to you. Wow. No, that's sorry. That's was so cringe. I apologize. He's like, Oh my
05:57:55.580
dear, my dear. And then, you know, you find out that you like, he fuck some, like he, he
05:58:03.900
did all this shit. He, he got gifts and he spent money and he took some, some, some hood
05:58:08.540
rat to fuck in Hawaii. And like you, he never, Oh my, wouldn't you be upset? Okay.
05:58:15.800
Okay. No. So I actually, what's funny is that the guy that I was with for a year and a half,
05:58:21.220
that was like kind of the situation. I don't know what he did with his past relationships,
05:58:24.800
but, um, yeah, we never went on any dates or anything and he didn't really like, um,
05:58:31.280
recognize me as his partner for a really long time. But I was like, I'm going to do something
05:58:36.640
different. I really like you. I'm going to commit to you. And, you know, we're going
05:58:40.200
to, in my head, do the thing and I'm going to be exclusive with you. And like, we were
05:58:45.400
exclusive with each other, but there was none of that exchange. And ultimately like the dynamic
05:58:49.520
was fine. But at the end of the day, the reason we broke up is because he literally a
05:58:54.100
year and a half later after moving in with me, looked at me and said, yeah, I don't take
05:59:00.980
you seriously. And I was like, then why the fuck are you here? Like, what are you doing?
05:59:05.060
Why are you here? And then we broke up and then he was like, I, you're the woman that
05:59:08.440
I want to have my babies and you should be, oh, so happy. And I was like, this doesn't
05:59:12.420
make any sense. This is so confusing. So yeah, I mean, upset is how I did feel. So that's
05:59:22.220
Yeah. It's like, I don't know the guy who's like, oh, this could be the mother of my
05:59:26.540
children or this is, could be the girl I spend the rest of my life with. And he like, doesn't
05:59:31.420
do any of this nice shit for you. But then like the chick that he claims, he doesn't
05:59:35.660
really, whatever. She was just for fun. He did all this shit. Uh, we have some chats
05:59:40.420
coming through. I'm going to have you read this one. Okay. All right. Then we got blast
05:59:43.840
through a bunch of them. Should I read the name as well? Yeah. Ethan Williams, three, six,
05:59:48.300
nine, four donated a hundred dollars. Brian love the podcast. Um, keep up the good work
05:59:54.520
for the panel. Into the mic, into the mic. Oh, I'm sorry. Keep up the good work for the
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panel. Is a guy with an ankle monitor slash felony, a turn off or a turn? Where was it?
06:00:04.000
Turn on. Doesn't matter what the felony is. So, okay. Would you, how about this? Would, uh,
06:00:09.060
maybe we can just do show of hands. Would you date a guy with a ankle monitor? Sorry. Like
06:00:15.700
on the house arrest? Yes. Is your current boyfriend? What did he do? Uh, well, he just got the ankle
06:00:23.700
monitor while I was already with him. Cause like you meet him, you meet him. You're single. You
06:00:28.640
meet him and he, you see the ankle monitor, which means he's like, you know, I'd probably
06:00:35.360
have some followup questions, but I feel like even if he has hands, do you guys want to show
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your, was it just you? Just you? You would do it. You would do it. Okay. Only if it's tax fraud.
06:00:45.320
Only if it's tax fraud. There it is. All right. Um, here, read this one.
06:00:48.440
Oh, Minnesota. For 100th time on show, men only marry a wealthy woman, abolish marriage
06:00:55.400
and community property. It will fix dating. Let the gold dig go way of the dodo bird. Any
06:01:02.580
heiress out there, I'm available. No prenup. Yo, David. Good to see you, man. I haven't seen
06:01:07.180
you in a while. Uh, good to see you, man. Uh, yeah, I think that's a, that's a solution.
06:01:12.520
That's a solution. Also, I'm with you on the heiress thing. Yeah. Where's all these wealthy
06:01:17.120
women sliding into my DMs? You know, it's crazy, you know, not that I really care about
06:01:21.580
that, but you know, I don't really care about the money, you know? Okay. I have a question,
06:01:27.580
but are we still on like the same topic, the big brother, big bro. Yeah. We'll do one more
06:01:31.620
then we'll move it on. Okay. Do you think that someone who cheats on somebody can change and
06:01:38.960
not cheat in the future? Yeah. Logically, it's possible. Uh, but I think it's valid to
06:01:48.800
obviously end a relationship over cheating. Oh yeah, for sure. But I think, I think you can
06:01:53.400
forgive the person. Uh, me personally, it's an instant breakup. Like I would instantly break
06:02:03.160
up with her. Yeah. But, uh, I, and I wouldn't advise men to accept infidelity. Um, would you
06:02:12.300
advise women to accept it? No, I, well, I would say this, I would leave it up to your own preferences.
06:02:19.100
Um, as a woman, if you can forgive the man, that's fine. If you want to break up with him,
06:02:25.280
that's totally fine too. Um, but, uh, I, here's a difference. Okay. This is going to get me in some
06:02:32.640
hot water with you guys. Go ahead. I think, and when I say, I think, I mean, I know,
06:02:39.400
I believe this is going to sound bad, but whatever, I'll just, whatever. All right. Uh,
06:02:46.800
I think if a woman cheats, she can't love you anymore. I, I think that that is more an indictment
06:02:59.200
of the state of the relationship. I think if a man cheats here, I'll frame it like this. If a man
06:03:07.100
cheats, he can still love his woman. If a woman cheats, she does not love her man.
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Do you think it would be different if the woman was cheating after the man had originally cheated
06:03:23.240
and she was just like, Oh, I'm going to get back at you. Do you think she can still love him then?
06:03:27.080
Or is it just, by the way, I'm, I, I'm speaking a bit in generalities. So I mean, like, is it
06:03:32.640
possible a woman could cheat and still be in love with? Yes. But I think more often than not, I think
06:03:39.400
that, uh, a man can cheat and Hey, by the way, he's a piece of shit for it. You shouldn't cheat.
06:03:44.780
It's wrong. But I think a man can cheat and still be in love with his girl. I don't know if that's
06:03:54.180
the case the other way around quite as often, but so, uh, what's the question? Can, um, can a woman
06:04:01.320
cheat in revenge and then, uh, yeah. Do you think she can still love the man if she's cheating in
06:04:07.980
revenge? Look for reconciliation, forgiveness is possible. Uh, I mean, I just think that's an L
06:04:19.300
though. No, it's an L for the woman to cheat. If he cheats either end the relationship or stay with
06:04:28.760
him, but cheating back, that just seems like an L for you. It is. It's totally an L for me. I think
06:04:36.460
you up to your count. Yeah, exactly. Well, like I should, no, I've never cheated like that. I mean,
06:04:42.080
it would be, it's, it's, it'll be hurtful to the guy. Like the guy doesn't want you to be sleeping
06:04:52.140
with other men, obviously. So your goal there is to hurt the man. So that's the, uh, that's the,
06:05:01.320
oh my God, bro. I think I have Alzheimer's and fucking dementia here. What is the fucking,
06:05:05.100
what is the word for catharsis? I don't know if that's the right word. Can you explain catharsis?
06:05:12.920
Like it would be people do relax and emotional release. People have a drive for revenge. Right.
06:05:21.320
And so there'd be a catharsis and getting revenge. Like, yeah, I guess like an impulse, like, and also
06:05:28.000
you, you also there's an impulse. You want to hurt the person that hurt you. Right. Yeah. So I
06:05:34.020
understand that impulse, but ultimately in terms of your standing, I just, just fucking some dudes.
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I just, that seems like, yeah, it's like a double-edged sword. Like, okay, he's going to be hurt.
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But like, that's just an L for the girl. Yeah. It's an L for the girl. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. It's
06:05:55.220
almost like, for example, like if this is kind of niche, but I've heard women say they fucked a guy
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to get revenge on him. Like it was a hate fuck. And I'm like. On the guy she's fucking? No, no,
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no. Like she's, say she's single. Okay. And there's a guy that she really doesn't like. And
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she's like, I'll show him. I'll fuck him. I'm like, where are you meeting these women?
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I'm like, that's not a W for you. Like you gave him a W kind of. Unless she has an STD or something.
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Unless she had herpes. Yeah. But I'm like, that's not the win you think it is. That's
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an L. How is that a win at all? You gotta explain. What the fuck? Maybe you girls can tell
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me. Like what's it? Like a spite fuck? I don't know. You know what I mean? No? I would
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never fuck somebody to spite them. It's a blessing. You know what I mean? A spite fuck? Who's done
06:06:45.920
a spite fuck? You must have like a really like problem. You spite fucked? She raised her hand
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everything. Oh. I don't know. I've heard, I've heard girls say this. It's a spite fuck. Multiple?
06:06:58.340
Multiple. No, just, I don't know. Multiple girls? How about pity fuck? Was she like, like,
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like maybe, how about this? It could be like, uh, I don't know if this would even be like,
06:07:10.000
how about this? She slept with him and then assuming that she thought that the guy had a long-term
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interest in him, but she wanted to play with his mind. She fucked him once and then discarded him.
06:07:23.700
Oh, okay. That makes a little bit more sense. So like the guy's kind of all like bummed out
06:07:28.120
because he didn't get the girl. Like, well, he slept with her, but he didn't keep her. But I mean,
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he fucked her. It's a win either way. He still kind of won. Yeah. Like still hit. Still hit.
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Still hit. Literally. So, I don't know. This is, I don't know. Wait, what did we have next?
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Marry the bow? All right. Yeah. Let's do the bow. So, okay. Somebody, you were asking me what I
06:07:49.120
wanted a woman. I took a video. I actually, I'm very autistic about when I'm dating women. Uh,
06:07:54.800
so I actually, of a girl I used to date knowing that I would eventually break up with her. I took
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a video of her doing what I want her to do so I could show my future girlfriends get in line,
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like get, get with the program. Oh my. This isn't like, not like a line, like a,
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a line of people, like get in line, get it with the program. So it's like an instruction video,
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you know, because I think sometimes women do better with, um, you know, like a visual aid.
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Sometimes just saying the words isn't enough. You have to show them. You have to demonstrate.
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So, okay, go ahead. Play the video. This is my ex-girlfriend. Uh, I show this to all future
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girlfriends. That's so crazy. Huge bow. You see the depth, submissive hand posture. She has to bow.
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As soon as I walk through the door after a long podcast recording session, I need a bow.
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Is this a skit? This is a hundred percent real, of course. So she has to have my dinner ready,
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dinner ready. Of course I'm taking care of everything, my apartment, whatever. She has to
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have my dinner ready, has to crack open a beer for me. And, um, even mix up your noodles. Look
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does that too. Get ready to play one more time. Nope. Pull it back up. She could have mixed the
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noodles a little better. Pull it back up and then play. Just play. Boom. Nice. The bow. The bow's
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the big thing. All that other shit, whatever. That's bare minimum, bare minimum. The bow. She's
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got a bow. Cultural appropriation. Oh, the bow. Who had the decision? Was you the bow? Yeah. You had the
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disagreement with the bow. Okay. We'll do, we'll get into that. Uh, yeah. So I, I believe in cultural
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appropriation. You know what? Fuck that. I believe in cultural reinvigoration. I don't
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think that's the right word. I would need an elaboration. What? So historically, you know,
06:09:55.140
you might say, well, that's a Asian thing. The bowing thing. That's Asian culture. Back
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in the day in Western culture, I am realiving. Am I just reliving? Is something wrong with
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me? Re-Renaissance? Hello? Renaissance? No. Uh, what, what, what's the thing with a
06:10:19.160
phoenix? We need a time with rebirth? Rebirth? Rebirth? Reincarnate? Rebirth? What do phoenixes
06:10:25.760
do? Rise from the ashes? The bow was part of Western culture historically. I'm bringing it
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back. Revive. Revive? Revive. I'm reviving. That's like in every video game. It's not even
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cultural appropriation. I'm just, cultural revival. Cultural revival. Okay. So yes, I expect
06:10:44.740
she happened to be Asian. What about curtsy? She happened to be Asian. She has to be Asian,
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I think. Nah, I don't like curtsy. I don't like a curtsy. What does it signify, like, culturally?
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Oh, I don't know, culturally, but, uh, it, it's a show of respect. Oh, okay. It's a show
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of respect. And in today's day and age, you know, it's, it's, it's often kind of hard to
06:11:08.120
meet a woman who will respect you on that level. Do you not believe that, uh, do you not believe
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that a woman can respect you without bowing to you? She can, but it's better if she bows.
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It's just his preference. I get it. What's that song from, is it Panic at the Disco?
06:11:32.920
Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking off her clothes, but it's better if she does.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know. Whatever. I don't know. I'm forgetting.
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Look, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I, so who, who would anybody who would bow for a man?
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Yeah. You would bow, bow, no, bow, you would bow, bow. Uh. Just the bow. Just, just, just the bow.
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I don't see the big deal. That's the thing. Like, if. Yeah, it's nothing. All right, will you bow back?
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Women were to getting on their knees to, you shouldn't have to, and then you can find somebody
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else who doesn't, who doesn't want that. I think I, I bow emotionally to a man. I don't
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know if I would bow physically to a man. Do you get on your knees and do whatever? That's
06:12:18.500
the same. I would do anything for a man. Would you do it? You have a valid point. If he,
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my husband asked to like try, I would try it, but if it. Reluctant. It would be a reluctant
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bow. If it didn't really work out, then I would hope that he would be willing to find another
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way. Wait, quick callback. It's not begrudging blowjob. I mean, it could be, but it's reluctant.
06:12:38.600
That's so long ago. Reluctant. Also bad. Sorry, continue. I didn't.
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Oh my God. So old. I feel like only if I wanted to like bow, like if someone's making
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me bow, I'm like, no. Yes. So I agree with you. I don't like, this, this isn't some like
06:12:57.180
domination thing where like, I've got, you know how like you got to break a horse. I
06:13:03.460
don't want to do, no, you want to do it. That's, you want to do all this shit. That's how it
06:13:10.380
should be. You know, it's like with a blowjob, like it's like the woman, like it's bad. Look
06:13:16.620
if she does it and you know, she does it. Well, no, I don't want it out of obligation or duty.
06:13:23.180
You should, you need the dick. Yeah. You need the dick. Like you need to suck the dick. All
06:13:29.560
right. Really quick though. Or, or even for sex. It's not like, well, I guess I'm going
06:13:33.960
through the motions that is expected to me in a relationship. No, like you need my dick in and
06:13:40.780
around your vagina. Like you need the dick. You need the dick. Not just you want the dick. You
06:13:45.860
need the dick. You said head, not vagina. I got to clarify. I got to make, I got to keep things
06:13:52.860
clear. Like, I don't know y'all look if the girl, look, I'm the girl's got to have some enthusiasm
06:13:59.140
about it. Like if the girl's on the fence, like fish, like the girl doesn't even have
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to do much, but she's got to, whatever it is that we're doing, she's got to want, like
06:14:10.600
she got to be enthusiastic. Consent. I think maybe like the ladies that are like married
06:14:17.280
and long-term committed relationships here can relate to this. Cause you were like, yes,
06:14:22.440
I'll do that. But you're also mentioned that you're super obsessed with your husband, which
06:14:26.640
is beautiful. So you'll do anything. So like maybe, and you as well, maybe you guys can relate
06:14:32.700
to that, but I don't know. I've never, I've never ever been in a, with a man that made me want to
06:14:39.420
bow to him. A lot of times I'm like, does the guy bow back? Is that, I would never allow, I would
06:14:45.660
never allow my man to bow to me. I would never allow that. Absolutely not. I have a question.
06:14:51.600
Is it about the bow? Yeah, kind of. Can I have my man tip his little hat? Cause that's
06:14:57.060
an old cultural thing. Like a fucking fedora. Yeah. Like a little, like a little, my lady,
06:15:05.320
madam. Nah. No. That's lame. That's lame. Of course not. Do we need like a time machine
06:15:13.200
at this point? Because we're going back, back, back in history. But it's culturally respecting
06:15:17.320
people. I mean, I think the equivalent of that is men opening the doors for you. Yeah.
06:15:21.760
Men like doing shivers acts for you. I agree. Fedoras are gay. Nobody wears hats anyway,
06:15:25.560
you know. If men are wearing fedoras these days, they're probably a little fruity. Okay.
06:15:29.420
Yeah. All right. So big bro Brian. I was going to say big bro. I don't know. Look, so wait,
06:15:34.220
who would bow for the man? No? No bow? I really think it's dependent. Like if a man like was.
06:15:40.320
If he asked you? I think if he was a manly man assertive enough and I was like, oh my God, yes.
06:15:48.800
And he was, I don't know. I've never really met a man that just made me, I don't know, all like
06:15:54.720
that level of submissive. I want to be, but I've never met that guy. Yeah. He has yet to show up
06:16:01.740
within my existence. So who knows? Maybe. I don't know. If I was with, if I was with a man and like,
06:16:09.300
I, cause if I was with him, I would want to be with him. I would want to do those things for him.
06:16:14.580
I would want to be submissive to him. I would want to make him happy and do anything I can to
06:16:20.020
satisfy and please him. So. Yeah. Meeting your man on top of the, in front of the door with just
06:16:27.240
lingerie is more submissive than just bowing to him. Did you not say that? No, because I think you
06:16:35.660
could, I think the bow is more submissive because like women wearing lingerie, they just
06:16:42.940
go out into public basically wearing lingerie. No, like just to meet you. Like, you know what I
06:16:48.940
mean? Like, I mean, that would be sexy. I don't know if it would be, but to submit like, you know,
06:16:53.280
like also who cares about a lingerie? I mean, if he wants me naked 300 times, you think, oh my God,
06:16:58.980
she's in a lingerie. I'm so. What if she bows to you a hundred times? It's the hundred and first
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maybe a maid outfit. If she's in a maid outfit, then we can talk, but a lingerie, that's so vanilla.
06:17:08.960
Oh my God. Lingerie. Okay. Then change it to the maid outfit. Go wear a maid outfit or maybe,
06:17:14.520
I don't know what else. What's another outfit she could wear? What if he wants me to like greet
06:17:17.920
him at the door and like a maid outfit and bow to him? Like that would be like perfect.
06:17:22.840
Mega. That's good. Go for it. You should do it. Look, I'm just saying maybe the women,
06:17:26.720
you should just give it a shot. Try it. I've done it. I prefer my husband to come in and give
06:17:33.380
me a kiss and I have his laundry done. I have dinner ready. I have everything ready, but I'd
06:17:39.000
rather come home and feel like a connection as opposed to like my superior. And I guess that's
06:17:47.880
where I have that disconnect with the bow is to me. It's a respect. It's like a superior thing as
06:17:52.480
opposed to like, I'm fine with her thinking I'm the superior. Do you not think your man is superior
06:17:58.700
to you? Oh no, he is. I mean, he's my, he's the breadwinner. He's like the caretaker for the house
06:18:04.920
and everything. It's just, I also want our kids to see us connect because eventually it's just going
06:18:11.840
to be the two of us again. I got to, we got to stay connected for us. You know what I mean?
06:18:16.920
So I think the dynamic of the race, the relationship goes beyond the bow. So let's say your kids see
06:18:22.920
the bow. They're not just going to see that. They're also going to see like the way mommy and
06:18:26.260
daddy talk to each other. It's like, it's not just, it's just one small aspect. Yeah. And I see the
06:18:32.280
point of it. Like, it's not that I like totally disagree with it. It's more probably just not for me.
06:18:39.060
Curious. Yeah. It's odd. I know. Hey, look, it is, uh, definitely culturally peculiar. Yeah. Uh,
06:18:47.200
perhaps in and of itself, it's a bit peculiar. Well, I don't think so, but I see how other people
06:18:52.380
would see it that way. I did remember something else I disagreed with you on too, though. Yeah.
06:18:56.280
But I'm also like, not an, like in some ways I'm very normal, but in other ways I'm,
06:19:02.740
I go about things a special way. I'm special. I'm special. Honestly, about that, about that.
06:19:11.080
I'm a special guy. I think I have my witnesses, but you said that she does not have to be Asian,
06:19:16.620
but then I have witnesses that you did mention Asians and that if we were importing, um, like
06:19:23.340
young Asian women, then that would be a very good plus. And then the lady in the video also was Asian.
06:19:30.000
So that's, I do think that she has to be Asian for you. No. So, well, okay. So, um, like you've
06:19:38.080
seen episodes or something or no, but where were you pulling the, you heard, you heard something
06:19:44.320
like you said, you said ABG before. Well, yeah, no, I did say that, but was there something like
06:19:49.820
from a previous episode that you honestly or no, I might've, yeah, I think like from one of the ones
06:19:57.880
I saw, I was kind of getting at that. So I mean, I like it. I like Asian women. I like white women.
06:20:03.160
I like Latino women. Um, yeah. But I think it's, it's still like 99% that she has to be Asian. No,
06:20:11.900
no, no. No. I mean, look, I, uh, 80, 89. No, I honestly, I probably have like a, don't get me wrong.
06:20:21.560
I think Asian women are very attractive. I think, uh, there can, I mean, it depends a little
06:20:26.760
bit. There can be certain general personality traits or alignments that manifests itself more
06:20:35.000
so in Asian women, uh, whether they're like Asian or Asian American, even, uh, more so than like
06:20:42.900
your typical white woman, I guess. But I'd say my preference is more, is actually more towards white
06:20:49.560
women. But that's not to say that I don't find Asian women also very attractive, uh, Latina women
06:20:56.160
also quite attractive. Uh, also Italians who you have mistaken as Latina women, Italians are also
06:21:04.960
attractive. Just want to clear, break the ice. Good talk. Um, but, uh, I don't know. Uh, white, Asian,
06:21:17.300
um, I think, uh, yeah, they're all good. Latina. Would you say that, um, Asian girls have
06:21:26.900
more of like the education of your preference? So like education, I mean, they are more probably
06:21:34.780
more willing to, I don't know, bow. Yeah. So yeah, it could, yeah, I think it could be the
06:21:41.560
case. Or, I mean, Asian American women are pretty much white women. Like they're, I mean, it depends,
06:21:51.160
like, are their parents first generation immigrants? Like, uh, I'm just thinking for some reason,
06:22:00.000
I don't see a Latina bowing to anyone. Like, I don't either. I mean, I'll just say this. I've had
06:22:08.240
white, Asian, and Latina women. Bow to you. Hit the bow. Hit the bow. But you made them,
06:22:14.260
you probably had to like ask her a couple of times.
06:22:18.960
Hmm. Well, it's hard because I'm in this kind of unique position where, uh, I don't know, for the
06:22:24.140
past three, four years or whatever, since I started the podcast, uh, my dating circumstances
06:22:28.880
are kind of unique. So like girls come to me. I'm not saying that's a brag. That's just,
06:22:35.400
I have no, I, I mean, just, I mean, I've shot my shot with girls in that time period too, but, um,
06:22:43.420
most men can't source from women coming to them, uh, because of my somewhat peculiar circumstances of
06:22:50.480
being out there on the internet and girls do come to me and just like, you guys have had that shit
06:22:56.000
on lock for a long time and it's way better. Like, it's just way better to be the, I don't know if
06:23:02.620
chooser is the right word, but like you just have, I, you won't like the framing of this, but you have
06:23:09.520
more leverage. If the person's coming to you, you can dictate the terms. You want to be with me?
06:23:15.680
Here's how it's going to be. But if I match with a girl on Tinder,
06:23:23.700
I'm not getting the bow. I might be able to get the bow, but probably not getting the bow. Like
06:23:30.840
if I match with a girl on Tinder or like I approach some girl at a bar club, it's going to be,
06:23:35.980
I don't have the leverage there. Maybe down in the relationship.
06:23:41.240
I was just going to say. Yeah, sure. Yeah. In a maid outfit? Billionaire.
06:23:48.900
No, that'd be humiliation. I wouldn't do that. Actually, wait, would I wear a dress?
06:23:55.880
For like a fucking billionaire? Fuck. Hold on. Let me think about this.
06:24:00.480
I'm really against like humiliating. Hold on. I'm really against like humiliation or degradation
06:24:05.100
stuff in either direction. Like if I'm dating a girl, like, I don't know. Y'all are into some crazy
06:24:10.660
shit. Like girls, y'all want to be, you guys want to be spit on and called fucking whores
06:24:14.760
and sluts and like, I don't know, all this crazy shit. Um, and I, I am not into either
06:24:22.860
direction degradation. Like certainly for me, like that's a hundred percent no go. Um,
06:24:28.320
it's kind of boring. I wear a fucking dress. That's boring. What?
06:24:31.340
What the fuck? Damn, what the fuck are you equal? Damn, these 18 year old girls, they
06:24:35.940
want to fucking be degraded and shit. That's crazy. No, it's just like boring. If you said
06:24:41.300
they're both equal, like they both like, I don't know, like respect each other all the
06:24:47.660
time. And they're like, I don't know. Oh, I'll roast a girl. Like my girlfriend, I'll
06:24:52.140
playfully roast her. I might call her retarded if she does something retarded, but like, it's
06:24:58.340
never, like, it's never with, uh, like a malicious intent or, well, it's not even malicious,
06:25:03.760
but like, I don't want to degrade a girl, especially in the bedroom. Even if she wants
06:25:09.300
it though. Okay. So here I'll give, I'll give a caveat here. So I believe actually this
06:25:15.320
isn't somebody notes, somebody's notes that we'll get to. Uh, I do believe that. Okay.
06:25:22.900
So for example, um, say this, I'm not sadistic, right. In terms of like BDSM or
06:25:29.400
whatever. Okay. If, damn, this girl, this girl's, you should, okay. Send us your BDSM
06:25:36.380
test score or whatever. Um, but, uh, if a girl wants, uh, is turned on by like choking or
06:25:48.920
some pain, I think even though it does nothing for like, it wouldn't be something I seek out.
06:25:55.120
It doesn't do anything inherently for me to be sadist. So she's a masochist. Uh, I have
06:26:01.460
no interest in being a sadist or whatever. Um, there are, I think in furtherance of, for
06:26:07.560
the sake of the pleasure of your partner, there are some things I think, even if you're not
06:26:12.220
into it for them, uh, I think you can do it. And if it turns them on, that can be to some
06:26:17.480
degree pleasing to yourself, right? If it's exciting for them, turns them on. I think part
06:26:22.500
of being in a relationship would be, um, maybe it doesn't do something for you, but you love
06:26:28.240
them and it does something for them within reason though. Like I'm never going to draw
06:26:32.300
blood from my partner. I'm not going to cut my partner. So I'm not going to do gunplay
06:26:37.060
with my partner. I'm not going to do knife play with my partner. I'm not going to, she wants
06:26:41.460
to be tied up. Sure. Uh, that can actually be a bit fun, I guess. Um, but like she, I don't know,
06:26:47.760
she wants to be like hit hard. No abuse. No, won't do it. I don't care if it's her kink,
06:26:54.900
if it's her turn on, uh, there's some guys or, uh, there, there's some, uh, guardrails that
06:27:03.740
I just, even if she wants it, I won't do it. Even if she consents, I won't do it.
06:27:08.980
Um, it's kind of a liability too, especially like if a guy, especially as a guy, like if you're a
06:27:16.160
nobody, you're some dude and some chick wants to do CNC. I mean, Oh, well, hold on.
06:27:21.340
That's why it's called CNC though. What is that? If you're a guy who has anything going on in his
06:27:26.260
life under no circumstance, should you ever do CNC? Even if you have a contract, even if like, uh,
06:27:33.340
you have it on video, she's saying, yes, I want to do CNC under no circumstance. Should you ever do
06:27:39.800
it? Or should you do rough, like really rough shit with a girl? You have way too much to lose as a
06:27:45.480
guy. Now, if you're some fucking nobody bomb, you still shouldn't do CNC, but like rough stuff,
06:27:50.760
I guess you can do, but it's just a massive liability for men to, um, placate women's.
06:27:56.420
I don't want to kink shame, but like placate your sort of demented sexual fetishes and kinks.
06:28:03.840
What is CNC? Consensual non-consent. Oh, so like fake rape. Yeah. Oh, sorry.
06:28:11.700
It's okay. Um, it's yeah. So I think, uh, I think they're just at least, I don't know.
06:28:20.660
You said if they have preference, that's okay. But what if their preference are just very weird?
06:28:28.440
Like what? Oh my gosh. Like feet? Like what? What's your, what's your thing? Oh,
06:28:32.840
ew. Oh no. Okay, hold on. I just, I just remember. Do you have a thing? No, no, no, no. It's okay.
06:28:36.920
I just remember something. This is a safe space. I just remember something. I had this one guy,
06:28:42.120
but that was like back in Russia and we literally just met and he was like, can you like kiss me in my
06:28:49.340
ear? And I was like, I was like, what? Like in the ear? Yeah. Yeah. Like kiss my ear. Like actually
06:28:55.560
in the ear. Yeah. Cause I, the, the ear lobe is fine. The ear lobe's fine. Like actually in the
06:29:01.800
ear. I was like, what? And he was like, yeah, that's like my thing. I was like, um, I was like
06:29:09.600
with your tongue. Yeah. Oh, and he would like repeatedly say that. I was like, I mean, was there earwax?
06:29:18.260
Oh, like if there's a, if there was a taste, I was like, that's the only, I was like, now
06:29:29.260
I'm thinking about it. I don't know why I just thought of it, but it was just so weird. Like
06:29:33.440
who has that? Did you do it? Girl. Did you do it as wild? It's okay. I've done it too. She
06:29:40.500
so did it. She so did it. But you won't bow? You'll stick your tongue in his ear, but
06:29:49.220
All right. Um, here, let's, we need a blast. Oh, let's do, well, I got to wait until everybody's
06:29:57.640
back to do the, we got to do like the images and then we're going to do, I'm going to do
06:30:02.880
some of the show notes. Okay. Levi's gone. Enya, uh, Enya going to your notes. Uh, you married
06:30:07.860
your husband after, damn man, we, we just got into so much. Yeah. Uh, you married your
06:30:18.640
husband after only three months. That's right. Been together five years going strong. Almost.
06:30:23.240
A little over four. Yeah. Oh, what? Oh, my notes are all, wait. A little over four. It's
06:30:33.560
been four since December. Damn. I had more notes for you, but they didn't get saved. I
06:30:38.200
don't know why. Didn't, didn't you have, aren't you describe yourself as like a reformed hoe?
06:30:43.040
I, yeah. What, how so? I used to be a liberal feminist whore and no, no. And then I converted
06:30:50.400
like slowly towards a more conservative. When you say whore, like what were you doing? Like
06:30:56.340
fucking around, like, like, you know, like dick hopping. Like I was really. Cock carousel. Yeah.
06:31:05.120
It was bad. Do not do that. You guys are so gay. Why do you think you did that? Because
06:31:10.560
I like, I grew up in the culture of like feminism and the culture of like, this is okay. You're
06:31:17.320
free body, you know, like go for it. And obviously I went to a liberal college. So like everyone
06:31:23.060
around me was doing it. Not an excuse. Cause it's like my decisions, you know, I make my
06:31:27.200
decisions. No one else does. So you gotta like take these into consideration. But yeah, like
06:31:32.280
you, I was doing that just to, because everyone else was, you know. For a second. Okay. Okay.
06:31:37.260
I get the fact that you were probably like young, but you said you converted. How was it?
06:31:41.740
No, no. I'm not converted. How was there a conversion? No, I said like I, around 2020, especially
06:31:46.740
around like the, the BLM stuff. Like I, I really had like a lot more time to like reflect, you
06:31:52.660
know, look at other sources. And like a little later, like that was the, when I met my husband.
06:31:56.980
So like I moved in with him and I, I just got a little bit more separate from all those
06:32:01.100
like liberal influences. And I just had time to like really self reflect and, you know,
06:32:06.860
look, look at like other things because a lot of what I was seeing was my own liberal ideas.
06:32:13.400
I didn't really even know what I was defending. Like, what was I like believing in? What was
06:32:17.980
I acting under morally? Okay. So there was a whole like reflection process that took a long
06:32:24.380
time. Then, you know. So you had a wild college phase. Yeah. You said you went wild in college. It
06:32:30.980
was part of your journey. Yep. Journey. Sure. And you're a reformed hoe. You made mistakes. You made
06:32:39.560
bad decisions. You take responsibility for those actions. And let's see, you, you said that you lost
06:32:50.960
your virginity before your first kiss. Totally true. How old were you? 19. Okay. And then what's
06:32:58.200
the quick story there? So the guy that I was talking to, like, I, I just went right from like,
06:33:05.500
you know, living a very like Filipino, like don't do anything. Like I was very like shut in.
06:33:11.560
Catholic. Yeah. Yeah. And so I, when I got to college, I just went crazy because I finally had
06:33:16.360
freedom that like a couple months later, like, you know, like, all right, like I'm going to have sex
06:33:21.380
because that's like, you know, what I just did. And then the guy though, he was like, I don't really
06:33:27.200
kiss girls who are not my girlfriend. So we had like, we had set up a rule not to kiss and I accepted
06:33:34.700
that. And then like a couple months later, like that's when I had my first kiss with a different
06:33:40.120
guy, a different guy. But that guy, did you continue seeing him like hooking up with him?
06:33:45.220
I only hooked up with him. So I hooked up with him a couple of times throughout college. And then
06:33:51.240
like once after, cause it was like, just like throughout years, but only a total, I think of
06:33:56.460
like three times, four times. That's kind of, is that a bit of a W for the guy? I don't know.
06:34:03.820
Sure. Like, I feel like that would be a, I was hitting a lot of L that's like a achievement.
06:34:10.780
Try to have sex with a girl without kissing her. Oh no, that's actually kind of normal.
06:34:16.740
Really? Yeah. Like, yeah. If you're like not into the person I've heard multiple times,
06:34:23.160
like we didn't even kiss, but we were fucking, I've heard it from a couple of my friends.
06:34:28.620
Well, I think it can be, maybe this might be normal. You kiss initially, but then you
06:34:33.980
kind of not, don't kiss as much. Yeah. I would feel disrespected. Disrespected. Well, how
06:34:41.100
can you, well, I guess you would have to be a missionary to kiss, but a lot of people don't
06:34:46.060
like that. Well, even working up to like foreplay or whatever, but. Yeah. But how are you going
06:34:50.720
to kiss somebody when there's stuff in your mouth? Okay. All right. Um, I don't know.
06:34:57.800
I think, uh, by the way, is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you? No. Is it a
06:35:06.620
deal breaker? Probably. Yeah. I mean, probably not. Into the mic. I'd ask some questions might
06:35:16.680
be a deal breaker. Okay. No. Long term, possibly. I'd be like, why? What's wrong? Interesting.
06:35:26.540
Okay. What about you? Okay. What about you? Into the mic, please. If they want you to give
06:35:35.100
them like fellatio, then I assume that, um, you would probably be receiving it. And if
06:35:42.120
not, then yeah, that would be a deal breaker. Not a deal breaker. But if the guy didn't want
06:35:48.120
it, would it not be a deal breaker? Yeah. I mean, I think if it's like mutual, then I
06:35:52.160
can respect that. I mean, I think it's, I think it's, we're not going to linger on this
06:35:57.840
topic too long just for sake of time, but, and I've also explained my position a whole
06:36:01.820
bunch, but. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of like good on our brains right now. I don't know.
06:36:07.340
I think it's, uh, I don't think it has to be tit for tat. I don't think it has to be tit
06:36:17.180
for tat, but occasional tat. Oh, I mean, do you eat puss? Damn. Uh, so, oh boy, I don't
06:36:28.520
even want to, my explanations always take so long here. Let me just read my notes on
06:36:32.840
it. Cause I don't even want to linger too long. It's just a yes or no question. Uh, hold on.
06:36:38.820
So, okay, look, I'll just be honest. So look, I actually highly value pleasing women and women
06:36:47.160
women's pleasure. I'll do anything. I'll do anything for love, but I won't do that. I
06:36:54.940
won't do that. Um, but like, look, I want the girl to come first. I want her to come multiple
06:37:00.640
times. I want her to come. I want her to enjoy it, but oral sex. I don't, it's, you might think
06:37:08.640
why he likes big labia. That doesn't make any sense. I just, it's not a really my thing.
06:37:13.380
Okay. I think that's fine. Maybe on Valentine's day after our 10 year anniversary. Why 10 year
06:37:24.620
anniversary? I'll do it once and then never again. I'll blow her mind and she'll, she'll
06:37:29.720
be, she'll be looking forward to it on our 10 year anniversary. And then she'll be thinking
06:37:34.600
about it for the rest of our time together. I have so many questions. Uh, I'll narrow it
06:37:39.860
down to one, which is just why, like you just don't like it. Like you're not good at
06:37:45.620
it. Like it's submissive of you to go down. So I'm just read off my notes. Otherwise I'm
06:37:52.260
going to meander way too much. Okay. So I'm not grossed out by pussy. Love pussy. The bigger,
06:37:58.100
the bigger the pussy, the better. Well, the labia anyways, not, not like looser, but the pussy
06:38:04.140
lips. I love pussy. Big fan. Uh, so okay. Not grossed out by pussy. That's one. I'm not
06:38:11.620
scared of pussy either. Some people think I'm scared of the pussy, not scared of the pussy.
06:38:15.740
Hold on. How do I call it like pussy phobia? Pussy phobia. Uh, okay. So I'm going to break
06:38:21.720
down my seven arguments. I'm going to try to do them as quick as possible. Uh, oral sex
06:38:25.920
is the leading risk factor for throat cancer in men. What the fuck? Men are four times as likely
06:38:31.920
as women to develop throat cancer. Uh, Michael Douglas, famous actor, motherfucker, got throat
06:38:37.520
cancer. That dude was eating a bunch of pussy in the seventies and eighties, maybe nineties
06:38:42.680
too. Um, so boundaries, boundaries, number two, reason number two boundaries, men are allowed
06:38:49.060
to have sexual boundaries just like women are. Um, and yeah, um, I think that's perfectly reasonable
06:39:00.260
boundary to have women can, if a woman doesn't want to do it, that that's fine. It's better
06:39:05.060
if she does, but, um, boundaries, boundaries. Uh, I also think this isn't so much a reason,
06:39:12.500
but it's just something I like to point out hypocrisy. I think there's a clear double standard
06:39:16.860
in terms of how sexual boundaries are respected depending on the gender. I think if, uh, you
06:39:23.420
guys, well, actually you guys were, I don't know, maybe deep inside your head, you're like,
06:39:27.520
this guy's gay. Um, I've had times where women just dogpile me. Cause I, I say, I don't do
06:39:33.700
it. Actually. I had some girl who was on the show previously. She saw a clip. She's, she
06:39:38.300
saw a recent podcast where this topic came up and she got all butthurt about it. I'm not,
06:39:44.040
this is not a girl I'm dating or whatever. She was like, eat it. DM to me, eat it. And I
06:39:49.980
was like, imagine I was like thinking, I was like, she would probably be really upset if
06:39:53.860
like some girl was like, Hey, listen, um, I just don't really enjoy doing oral sex.
06:39:58.960
She'd be like, Whoa, that's really like some dude DM to her like suck dick. I feel like
06:40:05.300
there's a bit of a double standard there. I think if a woman was sitting here and she's
06:40:09.720
like, yeah, I don't suck. Well, she was going about it as diplomatically and politely as I
06:40:14.960
was. She was like, I don't, she said she didn't suck dick. You'd be like, yes, queen. Oh my
06:40:19.720
God. I'm so, you're so cute or whatever the girls do. Um, you'd be like, yes, queen slay
06:40:25.900
queen. Um, but I think you guys would be super bent out of shape if you like overheard some
06:40:31.120
frat dudes having a conversation like, yo, if she doesn't suck dick, she's not worth dating.
06:40:37.220
She's probably a lesbian. You'd be like, Oh my God, that's so immature. So there's hypocrisy
06:40:43.660
on this. There's hypocrisy. Um, let's see. Oh, other STD risk. So the throat cancer thing
06:40:49.780
that's HPV, but you can get other, uh, STDs, uh, you know, doing that, doing that thing.
06:40:57.140
And, um, I think the dating landscape, no offense, you know, obviously this is a very classy panel
06:41:03.140
we have here, but, uh, look, I think the dating landscape, there are, there are definitely
06:41:07.660
good women, great women out there who don't move like this, but you don't always know.
06:41:13.180
Um, so I think, and this applies both ways, right? As a woman, you can also, you know,
06:41:20.200
be proceed with caution. I think people are fucking multiple people at the same time or
06:41:28.240
in rapid, uh, concurrence. I don't know if that'd be the right word, rapid succession one
06:41:33.800
after the other. Oh, you fucked Billy Bob on Tuesday. Didn't work out with him. You're
06:41:38.760
back on Tinder. You're back at the club. You meet some new guy. You're fucking him three
06:41:42.560
days later, a week later. So there's STD risk. And look, I think a lot of women move. I think
06:41:48.900
y'all be dealing with either multiple men or a lot of men, whatever it is, the STD risk. It's
06:41:56.640
just kind of gross. But even if there's no STDs, I just think it's gross.
06:42:03.880
No, sorry. Let me, let me, there shouldn't have been a period there. I just think it's gross. If,
06:42:10.920
if, even if we exclude the STD component, if she's dating multiple dudes and sleeping with
06:42:18.620
multiple dudes, I know not all women do that, but either you've recently fucked a guy or you,
06:42:25.460
you're like simultaneous, you're fucking multiple dudes. Not saying all women move that like that.
06:42:30.780
It, that is disgusting. Like I'm going to make me get angry. Please stop.
06:42:35.960
Oh my God. You just clutch your pearls. What the fuck? You're right. It is. It is. You know what?
06:42:43.840
She's actually, hold on. I take that back. You're backing up my point. It is so fucking disgusting.
06:42:50.760
Oh my God, dude. I'm not even kidding. I'm sorry.
06:42:55.000
That's, that's a girl wouldn't survive in jail.
06:43:02.640
She doesn't like, she doesn't like the pussy eating of this. I don't know.
06:43:04.740
She like imagined it in her brain. She like envisioned it.
06:43:13.840
She actually, wait, this is a whatever podcast.
06:43:30.140
No, don't Mary. Don't stop. Just fucking work your job.
06:43:33.980
She's fine. She's fine. She's be okay. Don't worry.
06:43:36.960
That, by the way, that's a first. I think that might be an achievement also.
06:43:46.660
Wait, wait, hold on. Let me put in the title. Let me put in the title. You know, sometimes women rage quit from the show. Women walk off the show. That is the first time I've actually made a woman vomit.
06:43:57.120
I don't know. Whatever. Hey, pop a bottle of champagne, please.
06:44:04.880
Wow, that's crazy. I'm just describing. And that's a woman. I'm describing pussy eating. And that's, oh my, she must really not like.
06:44:15.480
But, but, but, but like, so you can understand. Like, she's backing up my point. Like, she's fucking puking. I'm just talking about eating pussy. She's fucking yakking in the bathroom. And you guys want me to eat some pussy?
06:44:27.000
Really? And she's throwing up just, we're talking about it.
06:44:41.200
I actually have a trophy ready just for this. Um, this is, uh, for the, I've been waiting for this. The final, finally, after nearly 300 shows, I, I was so just disgusting. I made a woman vomit. So, um, let me just play this sound right now.
06:45:19.840
That's a new one, though, that we've never had.
06:45:23.080
Have we had a woman? Not, was it because of what I was saying, or was it just?
06:45:28.740
I, I, she's gotten up a couple of times to, like, get air.
06:45:43.120
Do you need some, okay, do you need some water, or do you want to have some water?
06:45:46.800
Do you need a bag, like, at the table, just in case?
06:45:50.180
If we're going to keep talking about it, I might have to.
06:45:56.220
No, I mean, to be fair, I wasn't, I've kind of just been, like, my stomach's been turning
06:46:01.500
the past couple, stomach has been turning the past, like, hour or so, and then you just,
06:46:26.500
There were two more points, but I'll just say that, look, I'll put it very delicately.
06:46:32.980
I think if you're inclined to do that, wait until you're in a relationship and you know
06:46:42.420
I don't think you should do that on, like, a one-night stand, or if you don't know where
06:46:56.680
I think the boundaries thing was really just enough, like, if you don't want to do it.
06:47:19.980
This entire night, I just wanted to talk about sexual defense.
06:47:28.180
Was she even here when I was talking about the ears?
06:47:38.340
Different topic, different topic, fun topic, funsies.
06:48:25.060
Okay, this is your boyfriend you've been dating for six months.
06:48:29.500
I don't want it to be a quickie the first time.
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Like, you gotta, you know, take your time with it.
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You said your early 20s were definitely relationships and lots of hookups.
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And, yeah, I came from a super, like, feminist, liberal, like, do what you want, explore, like, da-da-da.
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And part of it was when I finally got rid of my birth control.
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That, like, flipped a screw in my head and was like, oh, I feel like me again.
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And when I started, like, getting therapy, so I think people hooking up and stuff need serious therapy.
06:50:10.900
Oh, I can't even put it on center zoom, I guess.
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Well, you and I were really similar, apparently.
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And I think a lot of, like, people who actually, like, women who go from liberalism to conservatism,
06:50:38.880
go, like, for women, go through a very similar path.
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It took, like, starting to be honest with myself about what do I actually want?
06:50:50.740
Because I let go of some, like, really good relationships because I was so lost and didn't know what it actually meant to be in one.
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Because I didn't have a good relationship to look at growing up.
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And I grew up fatherless because my father died.
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So, I really think that also, like, really affected, like, just how I viewed, like, men, relationships.
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So, Tabitha, did you have, like, a similar, like, relationship with your father?
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I would leave it at that because it's not my place to really put out their laundry.
06:51:41.320
I didn't have a good, like, feminine role model to look up to.
06:51:50.960
It was just interesting to grow up in that scenario and not have that, like, solid foundation to, like, strive for.
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And when I started being honest about it and when I met my husband, it was...
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We're either going to do it or I don't even want to see you again.
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Sometimes people have, like, an opposite kind of, like, outcome from what you had.
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Well, not bad, but, like, kind of, like, a strange relationship with their parents.
06:52:28.700
They would kind of latch on to the same habits of also being kind of, like, indifferent or kind of being, like, having a strange relationship.
06:52:38.980
But it seems with you, because they did not have, like, a very strong relationship, that made you want one.
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I wanted it, but it took me a long time to figure it out.
06:52:51.340
And I should have gotten therapy and help ways earlier than I did.
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But once I started therapy, I did workshops and worked on myself a ton to get to that point.
06:53:08.980
I think with the hand you were dealt, you're a very strong girl.
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Just hoping that I braise my girls a little bit differently.
06:53:23.340
What do you guys think about therapy in general?
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Because I know it wasn't around for a long while before, and people still had relationships, people still had, like, abusive parents, abusive relationships, and there was no therapy to help.
06:53:38.640
I'm not pro-therapy at all, actually, because not all therapy.
06:53:42.520
There are some good therapists, but I think most therapy just really affirms delusions, you know, depending on what they are.
06:53:50.520
Like, especially, like, you know, like, oh, like, my boyfriend, like, is being, you know, toxic or whatever.
06:53:56.760
Like, and they're just immediately encouraging, like, breaking up.
06:54:00.180
I just don't think therapy, like, therapists understand a full picture enough to really give solid and sound advice to anyone.
06:54:07.340
I think it became too easy to become a therapist the last few years.
06:54:10.940
So it took me, like, five or six to find someone that made me cry every single time we got together.
06:54:18.460
And it was that therapist that actually helped.
06:54:21.600
Everyone else was like, oh, well, how are you feeling today?
06:54:36.020
Man, you were dating for about three months asked you to give him a rim job while you were about to sleep together.
06:54:42.680
And then you ordered an Uber and left, never to be seen again.
06:54:48.000
That was a very traumatizing experience because I'd never, like, been put in that position before.
06:54:56.980
And I was immediately, like, I thought he was, like, gay because I was like, why do you want, like, that done to you?
06:55:03.160
I mean, I get I'm a girl and I literally had to talk to, like, people about it because it was, like, it was, like, psychologically messing up my head.
06:55:11.400
Wait, is this a guy you, oh, no, sorry, you were dating him for three months.
06:55:15.880
So this is what, this wasn't, like, the first time.
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No, we had already, like, been intimate many times before.
06:55:21.700
And so at this point I was, it was just so shocking that, that I was asked to do that.
06:55:39.120
And, like, otherwise, like, the sex was normal, nothing, like, weird?
06:55:43.580
It was, like, literally vanilla, like, nothing out of the ordinary.
06:55:59.700
And maybe he was just getting to the point of, like, feeling comfortable enough to you
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to where he could be, like, okay, like, maybe she'd be willing to give it a shot.
06:56:10.900
I mean, I, I can't say I don't feel, like, bad because, obviously, he felt, like, comfortable
06:56:17.720
But at the same time, I don't, I just, like you said, Brian, you have, you have boundaries.
06:56:25.840
So, yeah, I mean, I, I think that's, like, by the way, that specific thing, like, anything
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That's, like, could be a health risk or whatever.
06:56:45.780
So, that's totally reasonable, uh, boundary to have.
06:56:50.180
Um, you're, it's absolutely not wrong at all for you to not want to do it.
06:56:55.360
But, um, I don't know if he's, I don't think he's in the wrong for asking for it.
06:57:08.500
Also, by the way, this is something interesting.
06:57:10.800
Um, receiving, I know it's a little bit gross to talk about, but receiving that, um, it's
06:57:39.600
I'm just saying, like, you can get, like, somebody doing that to you can trans, like,
06:57:56.260
I don't think he's, hey, it's not my thing, but I don't, I don't know if, look, the guy's
06:58:05.320
Um, it, I want to say no, but, uh, it could be.
06:58:17.600
Like, like, obviously, logically, uh, could a, could a man be strictly heterosexual, only
06:58:25.740
be attracted to women, only want to have sex with women, but want his salad tossed?
06:58:38.680
You could, you could also want all those things and have all those things and, and you
06:58:45.160
could be, you could be gay, but you could be heterosexual if you want a woman to do
06:59:01.120
What, like, did he, like, so did the conversation was like, hey, listen, uh, would you be willing
06:59:13.980
We were, we were literally just, like, kissing, like, and, um, he, like, tried to make it,
06:59:19.380
like, I guess, sexy and, like, whisper in my ear, oh, girl, no, no, it was.
06:59:55.520
Yes, that was, that's what I, that's what I mean when I was, like, it was just, like.
06:59:58.740
But do you want a guy to be, like, self-conscious about it?
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But, obviously, that, this is different than, you know, a blowie, you know.
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Now that you're not in your initial shock state, would you do that for somebody ever?
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I think this would have just come down to communication.
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What if there's something that you're not really into.
07:03:54.920
It gave her massive amounts of sexual gratification.
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I feel like it's so common in men to have fetishes over women.
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I just keep running into men with like feet fetishes.
07:06:33.360
This idea that these men are just like fucking sexually depraved.
07:06:37.960
That's the typical man that scratches the surface of the fucking depravity.
07:06:51.340
There's something inside that maybe it hasn't arisen yet.
07:06:58.140
But I think it's risen like that were secretly some like it's your ex.
07:07:04.000
I think hidden either hidden every woman or just.
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Some people are very open about their freakiness.
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Like y'all almost want to get beat up or something.
07:08:23.300
Porn is ruining men's sexual relationships with women.
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And their ability to form meaningful relationships with men.
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A lot of women don't hold other women accountable.
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Because they expect all women to be a girl's girl.
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We're going to do some things from the questionnaire here.
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While we're waiting for the panel to fully return.
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Did you talk about the depression in your early 20s?
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And you're expected to have a career and not focus on family.
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You can't believe you didn't know this is all you've wanted.
07:09:23.180
You said can't say you should be treated like a queen.
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But don't women expect that like from the get go?
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I guess really quick rewinding to the bow video a little bit.
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I think the first time a girl comes over to my house she should do my laundry.
07:10:06.000
Oh that's the other thing I disagreed with you on.
07:10:16.600
But it's not like doing a man's laundry isn't culturally weird.
07:10:21.240
Like you would do it in a relationship eventually right?
07:10:40.980
You got to make yourself have a competitive edge.
07:10:48.640
The first time I went over to a guy's house I have offered to help him with his laundry.
07:11:10.980
If you're dealing with a certain caliber of guy.
07:11:21.840
Look some guys they're just happy to get some pussy.
07:13:25.120
But well actually women don't really like nice guys.
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Men are not like relationship vending machines.
07:18:19.400
Because you're not going to bring a bunch of like.
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You should be able to kill Ragnaros before submerge.
07:22:59.200
You should be able to get the kill without fucking.
07:23:33.520
I've never been more interested in what you're saying.
07:24:09.540
That's how women are moving in the dating landscape.
07:24:56.400
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
07:25:07.140
60 to 100k specifically because I have three children.
07:25:17.480
What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
07:25:44.660
But you're not going to sleep with someone after being with them for three years?
07:25:58.420
If I'm planning to be like successful and rich myself.
07:26:13.860
So we could not have to depend on each other financially.
07:27:22.420
You think you'll make 10 million dollars a year?
07:32:13.960
Is it insecure for a guy to care about the woman's body count?
07:32:55.540
Like when you say you don't know, like did you forget or?
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There's a story behind it, but also reformed hoe basically.
07:33:50.380
Because you said, did you say reformed hoe too?
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I'll eat a salad if nobody else wants pizza, but.
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We're going to get a salad and a pizza, and we're going to figure it out.
07:36:13.760
How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
07:36:17.740
Oh, I am five foot eight, and five, four, five, three.
07:36:28.540
I'm five, seven, so I'm thinking he has to be five, eight, or up.
07:36:39.140
I would prefer for him to be like six feet or over.
07:36:47.020
You said five, eleven here, I think, but whatever.
07:36:50.920
I'm five, five, probably the same height or higher.
07:36:54.880
I am five, three, minimum five, six, just a little bit taller than me.
07:37:19.480
You picked, you picked, you'd rather cross paths with a random bear over a man?
07:37:26.640
Well, we don't have time for that, but disavow, disagree.
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Okay, we're going to blast through some of the other notes here.
07:37:39.260
Leda, you said that, or at least you agree, women are just as physically strong as men.
07:37:50.340
Do you think women are, are women just as physically strong as men?
07:38:05.420
Honestly, does it say physically, because I don't...
07:38:18.760
Okay, so maybe you were just mistaken on that, then?
07:38:32.020
You also circle here, men are more privileged in society than women.
07:38:37.680
Um, because they have more opportunities to, I don't know, I feel like their opinion is
07:39:00.700
I'm not really going to provide much pushback there.
07:39:02.880
You also circled for 18, women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
07:39:11.420
I think it's circling back to the same point that I just think anything that men say is
07:39:20.820
What would that have to do with rights, though?
07:39:24.900
So maybe, yes, societally, culturally, let's go ahead and grant that maybe that might be the
07:39:29.460
case, could be the case, I don't know if I agree, but, uh, I don't know what that would
07:39:38.360
Like, men don't have a right to be taken more seriously, as granted by the government.
07:39:50.780
Well, on the rights, I'm not really sure, but...
07:39:58.080
Okay, um, I think a few other people, uh, men are more privileged in society than women,
07:40:11.680
Well, okay, um, men are more privileged in society than women, why do you think that?
07:40:20.980
Uh, same thing that I spoke about earlier, just that a lot of times, like, in board rooms
07:40:24.620
and, uh, especially in, like, a medical field, men are typically paid higher or whatever,
07:40:31.600
I have some contentions with that, but I don't, I'm not gonna really, I won't bite on it.
07:40:36.400
Um, in terms of the questionnaire, I don't know if there's really too much else for this.
07:40:50.100
Uh, you said men should pay on first dates, men should be chivalrous, um, you said you
07:40:56.760
would, uh, you want to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage?
07:41:05.620
Okay, um, do you, is that, I don't know if it's different in Russia, culturally?
07:41:18.380
So you're just, like, a feminist, modern woman?
07:41:20.300
My mom kept her last name, but that was a personal choice.
07:41:27.880
Um, my, my man actually does, because his last name is, like, affiliated with his family
07:41:34.720
who's in prison, and my last name is King, and he wants my last name, because it's cool.
07:41:47.580
And, uh, I do notice, though, that for you, you said men should pay on first dates, men should
07:42:00.220
Okay, just you, you want to keep your last name?
07:42:02.020
I, I guess my, the reason I bring it up is, I think it's, I think in society, what we
07:42:08.200
see happening frequently is you have a lot of women who want the benefits of traditional
07:42:16.440
chivalrous culture or treatment, but you guys don't want to do anything traditional.
07:42:27.160
The man should provide, the man should protect, the man should pay for dates, the man should
07:42:56.720
I wasn't sure if you were asking the group or if you were asking one person.
07:43:08.760
I do think that that's kind of a phenomenon that's going on.
07:43:11.160
I think a lot of us personally probably are a bit more submissive to our partners or want
07:43:20.660
Yeah, but I think that there's nuances to that as well.
07:43:23.140
And we all have our own, maybe we want to be submissive, but we also want to hyphenate
07:43:30.040
Um, so, and I do think that there are a lot of nuances within mixing traditional and modern
07:43:36.800
And, um, I think you just got to find the person that aligns with you for that.
07:43:42.340
I, it seems though that, uh, look, I, I don't think like when it comes to being traditional,
07:43:47.280
I don't think it has to be an all or nothing thing.
07:43:50.820
I think that tradition can be to some degree a spectrum.
07:43:55.520
I don't think, you know, um, you know, you're okay.
07:44:00.040
Well, if both the men and the woman, woman, they're not virgins, uh, and they had premarital
07:44:06.200
sex, I think you can still have like a really traditional dynamic.
07:44:09.680
Even if you're one or both of you aren't like virgins on your wedding night, you can still
07:44:16.580
That would be perhaps one of the, one of the ways in which you have like an ultimate manifestation
07:44:24.900
But I think my big thing that I see is it seems like, like women are treating it a bit
07:44:31.900
like a buffet and maybe sometimes men are too, where it's like, okay, as the woman, you want
07:44:41.460
You want the benefits of tradition and you want to kind of reject the perhaps, uh, downsides
07:44:47.960
of modernity and reject the downsides of tradition.
07:44:53.160
So it's like, okay, if like we're viewing things through a feminist equality lens, if you believe
07:44:59.240
in equality, women should pay, I mean, it should be 50, 50 on dates, but almost, almost all of
07:45:06.700
you, except for like one or two, you also said men should pay on first dates, men should
07:45:13.140
So it's like, it seems like there is a general idea here that women want to hold on.
07:45:18.380
You want to keep the benefits, reject the downsides.
07:45:22.200
Well, with my ex, we would split whenever we would go out to eat, we would split.
07:45:28.860
And I had friends like female friends who would scold me for it.
07:45:35.920
And I'm like, well, I know his situation of like, both in this industry.
07:45:41.660
And so I'm like, by showing my thoughts were that by us splitting the bill, it's showing
07:45:47.160
me that I'm not like expecting him to always pay when he wants to pay.
07:45:55.120
I kind of wanted it to be a, an equal thing in regards to pay, uh, for food.
07:46:00.120
But whenever he wanted to do it as himself, he would, but I don't expect him to.
07:46:05.920
So, I mean, I think there's a tendency that I, obviously some women are fine with going
07:46:16.660
I would argue that the majority of women, so I'd say over 50% of women want men to pay
07:46:22.120
Uh, I think as a general rule, I think it is fair to say that women definitely prefer
07:46:27.900
Some would like, it's just a deal breaker if the guy wouldn't.
07:46:32.000
And so I'm not really looking to like, okay, there are, of course there are examples where
07:46:37.900
women go 50, 50, or even there's examples where women will just, they'll pay for the
07:46:45.340
I think what I'm trying to get here though, is a sort of more of a general understanding,
07:46:50.000
not like, well, you know, for example, there's this, this idea of, um, well, most men, uh,
07:47:03.360
It's like, well, sure, of course, but I'm interested in the general principle over like
07:47:09.940
The general consensus is that the man is, it's expected for the man to pay on the first
07:47:16.320
And I, I don't, I don't demand it, but I do kind of expect it on the first date.
07:47:28.920
After that, if we're like dating, that's when I no longer assume or expect him to always
07:47:36.620
Uh, I have a question for you, Brian, what do you associate as the negatives or the downsides
07:47:44.980
Cause you said they don't, they want the positives, but they don't want the negatives.
07:47:48.420
So what do you, what are you looking at as what women might assume are the negatives of
07:47:57.280
Uh, the negatives for, for women or the negatives for men?
07:48:03.760
I think, uh, probably the big component would be, um, women.
07:48:10.320
I don't think all women view that few it like this, but, uh, women don't want to show
07:48:20.320
Women want equal say you want 50 50 in terms of, well, we're partners and we're, and so
07:48:28.480
from my perspective, from a more traditional dynamic, for example, I'm not, I'm not a mass,
07:48:34.080
I'm not like necessarily a dictator, although don't tempt me with a good time.
07:48:39.420
If, if, uh, I'm like, I want to, I'm open to your input.
07:48:54.840
But like, if there's some sort of decision, say there's an impasse and I don't know.
07:49:01.700
Um, I'm like, Hey, I want to move to this place because, and say, I'm taking care of
07:49:07.060
all the money, everything, uh, you're not working.
07:49:09.820
And I'm like, Hey, but you like living in a certain area.
07:49:13.460
And I say, look, for the sake of my business, for the sake of, uh, you know, money, maybe
07:49:20.820
you've got ties and you got friends here and you like it here and the weather's better,
07:49:29.480
Uh, we can have a convo and I can, you can give me your input.
07:49:32.480
But if at the end of that, I mean, honestly, the best thing would be, you're just like,
07:49:38.960
I trust you'll make the decision that's best for me, best for us, best for our kids,
07:49:46.120
If there's an impasse, I think in a relationship, I think the man should be the, uh, tiebreaker,
07:49:55.140
The woman can, you know, give her perspective, but I think she should, if the man, if there's
07:50:00.580
a disagreement, the man should be the tiebreaker.
07:50:08.960
So I think, uh, in terms of being submissive, you would defer to your boyfriend or to your
07:50:26.120
husband and give him because you trust him fully.
07:50:33.780
Now, just to be clear, when it comes to being submissive, that's not, if your boyfriend
07:50:41.120
says, jump off a bridge, you can say, no, you can say, no, if your boyfriend wants to
07:50:46.840
prostitute you out and make you do and will not make you, but he's like, Hey babe, you
07:50:57.120
If, if it's, if he's asking you to do something that's morally objectionable, women can absolutely
07:51:04.580
A man should only be guiding a woman from a, uh, a moral, uh, a moral high ground, uh, pot.
07:51:15.100
I don't know what the right terminology here is.
07:51:22.740
If your boyfriend jump off a bridge, start becoming prostitute, of course, no, you're
07:51:27.280
not going to be submissive and you should break up with the guy.
07:51:29.620
If your boyfriend wants to prostitute you out so he can make some money on the only fans.
07:51:34.440
And a lot of women actually, that's how they get started in the only fans, their boyfriend.
07:51:38.560
I mean, most women do that shit just on their own.
07:51:41.880
But, uh, a lot of these girls, like the boyfriend kind of pushes them into it, you know?
07:51:49.100
Like a lot of the times the women just do that shit, you know, on their own.
07:51:52.720
But, uh, yeah, I think, uh, she, she ought to defer to my decision-making.
07:51:58.640
She ought to defer to my, uh, leadership in the relationship.
07:52:03.700
I think that takes finding a man that knows how to lead and also makes good decisions.
07:52:11.460
I mean, you should, but I, I would hope that the guy you pick is a man that you can trust
07:52:15.680
and that, you know, does have those positive characteristics.
07:52:23.040
I mean, hopefully, but I mean, a lot of women do get stuck in situations that are less ideal
07:52:28.200
or, you know, they think that he's going to make a good decision and then it ends up there
07:52:33.660
Well, I mean, some of the, some of the negatives too might also be just more general components
07:52:40.020
of being, uh, of deference, of showing deference, of being submissive in a relationship.
07:52:46.240
I think, uh, I mean the last name, for example, I think if you want the guy to marry you, that,
07:52:52.140
that is more traditional than, uh, she should change her last name.
07:52:56.180
Uh, the kids should have the father's last name.
07:52:59.400
Um, I think that, um, I think a man should, uh, the man, like it's best if the woman doesn't
07:53:10.300
But I acknowledge that a lot of society, uh, both men and women have been brainwashed to
07:53:16.140
They have been culturally and socially conditioned to view things as acceptable.
07:53:21.700
So for example, if I'm in a relationship with a girl, uh, I think on her own without
07:53:27.740
me having to even lead her, uh, she shouldn't be posting thirst traps.
07:53:32.060
She shouldn't be, uh, she shouldn't be, she should be trying to dress to some degree modestly.
07:53:40.020
She shouldn't be going out to the club with her single girlfriends.
07:53:43.260
So if I was in a relationship with a girl, I don't, I don't need back talk about, uh, you
07:53:48.760
know, she's like, Oh, Hey, I want to go out with my girlfriends.
07:54:12.380
Well, what if she wants to do a girl's trip in general, but like you or girls are also
07:54:20.420
I think there are circumstances that might make that more acceptable.
07:54:25.280
If a girl's in a relationship, the single female friends are a terrible,
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They want to keep doing hood rat shit with her.
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They want to, they want to, they want their single girlfriend back.
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I think single friends can often be like completely catastrophic to a relationship.
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So, uh, you know, all her other friends are married.
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Um, generally speaking though, she's gone, she's going to go to Miami.
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Do you just not trust that she will not do anything?
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Like you have, it seems like a little bit of a, like for lack of better words, it just
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You know, like a confidence in your relationship.
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I wouldn't say it has to do with confidence necessarily.
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I think it's just about as a relationship minded guy, I think in terms of women look
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to men to protect and protection isn't just, Oh, there's a home intruder.
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Oh, there's some guy who's, you know, being an issue or whatever.
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I think I need to, sometimes you got to protect a woman from herself and women will sometimes
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do things that are detrimental to a long-term relationship.
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Maybe that's because of the social cultural conditioning where, Hey, it's okay to go.
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Maybe you had a guy, a boyfriend who didn't have boundaries or didn't know to tell you,
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yeah, I'm not cool with you twerking in a club.
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I'm not cool with you moving like you're single because now we're in a relationship, right?
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And I personally, I think going out to bars and clubs and nightclubs, that is not behavior
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Well, let me finish my point really quick here.
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And I think this comes down to what, when a man gets in a relationship, you, the women,
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the female expectation on the man is like, you would think it's cheating.
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If I approached a girl and hit on a girl, would you think that that's cheating?
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Like if, if, uh, uh, to use a, I guess, analogy with like animals or something like you guys
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have different, this is gonna sound cringe and autistic.
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You guys have, uh, you know, maybe an animal has claws and another has horns, right?
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Cause I can't even think through the fucking analogy.
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What I'm trying to get here is men and women have different mating strategies.
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So as men, when we get into a relationship, there's an expectation that we give up our
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We give up the way that we meet women, which is to be proactive, but women are passive.
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Don't give me, well, I know sometimes one time I approached a guy.
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Sometimes women do go up to men, but women, you have a passive dating.
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You put yourself in a position to be approached.
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You post the Instagram post because you know, guys will DM you.
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And so we ask men in relationships, you ask men, we got to give up our edge.
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Of course it would be cheating if we approach a girl, but you still go to the club.
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You're still sourcing the entire time we're in a relationship.
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Oh, I've got a boyfriend, but here's my Instagram.
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You are still sourcing when you're in a relationship.
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There is women who can go to the club and they would never think about cheating.
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There's an appearance of impropriety that I'm not okay with.
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Also, even removing the component of her willfully cheating in terms of protecting her, women get drugged at the club.
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Also, by the way, just to be clear, this could be a, from my perspective, maybe you guys are like, whoa, okay, I date guys who drink and blah, blah, blah.
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So I would hope, look, if my girl drinks a little bit, not at the club or the bar, but if she's hanging out with me and she wants a bit of wine or whatever.
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Although what I've found actually, even if I've dated a girl who, who used to drink, she stops drinking when she's with me.
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I think, so it could be just a complete mismatch of like respective, I don't know what the right word is.
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Respective, um, approaches, like values, like life.
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Like, uh, I value, um, it sounds like sobriety is going to make it sound like she used to be a drug addict or an alcoholic.
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Um, I value a woman who does not partake in that stuff.
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So I think honestly that, but the type of girl that would be right for me would probably be some girls just don't have an interest.
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Like some girls are like, I don't go to the club.
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However, however, though, I think it is conceivable that I could meet a girl who she's going down that path, being a little fucking, and I can fix her.
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But yeah, she's got to, so I think I, to, to finish up on the different, uh, dating strategies, men are proactive.
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But I think if I have to give up my proactive approach, women have to give up their passive approach.
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And that means you got to cut out the bars and clubs and posting thirst traps on Instagram.
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By the way, also I hold men to account to men in a relationship should not be liking other girls photos.
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They shouldn't be following some fucking Instagram thought, some Instagram model.
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Uh, they shouldn't be following any other girls.
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Would you go to the club with your girlfriend if she wanted to go, like, let's say every other weekend?
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So she's not going with her girlfriend, she's going with you.
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Like, what, like, what are your, there's like no wiggle room?
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And I'm going to, everything's going to be taken care of.
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You're never going to have to work again and we're going to live in a nice house and all
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your needs, uh, uh, are going to be taken care of.
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And, uh, you don't need to worry about the club.
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Fucking, you want to go to the club and fucking dance to Usher?
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Well, what, what if she doesn't want to dance to Usher?
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And the only place to go is to a dance hall, country dance hall to go swing dancing.
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It's about family, familia, blood, familia, blood, family.
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You guys want, you're wasting your time at the bar and the club.
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Let's pump out seven sons and build a fucking clan.
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Well, we can have some daughters too, but build a fucking clan.
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I think the club is the biggest waste of time, money, energy.
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There's just groups of people trying to fuck each other.
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I think couples can totally go and have a good time and dance.
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When I was working at the strip club, I had a couple come in together and do the strip club.
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Yeah, I mean, that happens, but no, I wouldn't do it.
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And then going just to the club with your girlfriend, no.
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Is she allowed to go hang out with her girlfriends?
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I'm not like, keep fucking, look, I'm, look, and I'll, my, you guys might think I'm like
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But, uh, there's just certain behavior I don't want my girl doing, but yeah, she wants to
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You can, you want to go to Trader Joe's, go to Trader Joe's.
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What if it's like your best friend's bachelor party?
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If some girl came to me, Brian, I, I, I will never go to the club again.
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That's a huge win for the guy and it's a win for the girl.
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I don't think it's disrespectful to want to go dancing.
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It is, but it's not if it's like with your partner.
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It's like you, it's, you can't, it's not even like an activity you want to participate
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I know, but you know, it just, it's the fact there's no wiggle room.
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Like if the girl wanted this at least a little bit, once a month, find a new man.
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My husband and I have a good time dancing together.
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I think the club is, I think the club is, I just also, I don't look, if she goes alone,
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I just don't even if like, look, she'll never cheat on me, whatever.
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She could get fucking something put in her drink or, you know, who knows?
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I'm like, I have to consider what are the potential risks.
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As her protector too, like you, yeah, I think the club is stupid.
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Look, and I also think part of protection, it's not just even like the physical, even,
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you know, the, you know, home invasion, but even the club.
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But also, I think you have to protect a woman's spirit and you have to protect her mind because
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there's a lot of bullshit propaganda out there.
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And I think both men and women can succumb to propaganda.
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And as the man, you have to protect your, your, your wife, your girlfriend, your kids,
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Are you going to send your kid to public school?
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Maybe you should, maybe we're going to homeschool our kids.
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Are they going to, are they, who knows what they're going to fucking do to the kid?
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I need to protect and insulate my family from propaganda of the spirit of the mind.
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Why would you guys want to even go to a club in the first place?
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You weren't here, but I think clubs are for single people and stupid, so.
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Well, even, even single, like what's the point?
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Like I don't drink or smoke, so I kind of be like.
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For the people who do drink, that's usually where it is.
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Probably just like, yeah, like a self-gratification thing, like most things.
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So the only reason I personally go to a club, because I've been sober since I was 17, is I'm
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a trained ballroom dancer and I swing dance and I do every single partner dance.
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So I do Latin, I do two-step, I swing, all of that.
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And a lot of swing dancers go to, not your typical club, but specifically a dance hall
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So that would be why I go to a club and I only go every so often, because I'm the only
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Also, you cannot let your wife or girlfriend take jujitsu classes with a private instructor.
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You can't, look, you can't let them do this shit.
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Um, uh, the, I don't, I haven't really gone to clubs in a while just for like single
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I have musician friends who perform at clubs and I go there to, to support them and listen
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And the times that I've gone, I was for the most part sober because I went by myself because
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I wanted to keep an eye on like my surroundings and who was there.
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I mean, I look there, there's obviously certain different venues.
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I mean, I think the clear cut thing here that I'm talking about is nightclubs and bars.
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But you're not wrong about the passive thing, because even when I would go to, to a club,
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to a marquee or tower or something to watch a musician perform, I would have guys come up
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to me while I'm just minding my own business and trying to offer me drinks.
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And, and it's, that's when you phrase it that way, the passive thing, it's like, I, I get
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And it's just like, just stepping outside of the apartment and having a drink with a friend
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I think I guess to, uh, final thing on this topic, and then we're pretty close to the end
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I think that we, when it comes to like the king, queen treatment, traditional treatment,
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I think that we teach women how to expect men to treat them.
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Uh, I don't think we teach women how to treat men.
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And conversely, we teach men how to treat women, but we don't teach men what to expect from women
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Well, I think that's what feminism did to everyone.
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Like it totally reinvented how women think into being the alpha and they deserve this
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and this and this and this, and then they don't have to give anything back.
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And that's how all of my past relationships ultimately failed.
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Like you've been stood up twice in one night and being left at the theater.
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I pre-ordered the tickets and he was supposed to meet me there.
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And so then I like, I went down to Walmart, grabbed my snacks, came in.
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I was like 30 minutes early and I was going to go watch the movie because I didn't just
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So I'm sitting there and I get like this message from this other guy.
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And then I was like, I'm over this because of this experience.
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And I was like, well, funny enough, I got stood up.
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He's sitting down from like next to me for maybe like five minutes.
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And he like looks at me and he's like, I'm going to go run to the concessions.
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And I actually totally forgot about this, but I had a boyfriend for two days in October.
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Well, I actually offered to stay because I was like, I'll stay with you and I won't go to Texas.
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And I was like, okay, well, because he didn't want me to like make a decision like for because of him,
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even though I feel like that was, it's totally acceptable to request that of a woman.
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And he decided that he didn't want to date me because he didn't, his words were, I don't want you to go to Texas for two months.
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And then somebody else better come along and I have to call and tell you that I found somebody else.
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And he also told me that he didn't, he wasn't ready to not be single yet and that I just wasn't a good enough option.
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You also wrote that you don't think that I'm extreme enough.
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I mean, biblically to that standard, everything that he says is very accurate.
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Dated a guy for a year and a half that kept you secret because why?
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Um, so this is, I kind of touched on it already.
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So, um, I've, I've been modeling for nearly 15 years and basically he didn't like that.
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Um, and then come to find out also, um, I am divorced.
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Um, I'm a domestic violence survivor, rape and assault survivor.
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And at the end I talk about victim mentality and how it keeps you from achieving your dreams.
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Um, and he was extremely embarrassed of that and didn't agree with it and told me that
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I should burn my book, even though I wrote it to empower women that have gone through
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these things and men as well that have gone through these things.
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And it's the same guy that after that told me that he wouldn't take me seriously.
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And then after we broke up, told me that he has chosen me to have his children and that
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Um, and I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
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Can I add to my dating experience really quick?
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Yeah, so I actually just recently had a date with a guy and we were sitting at the dinner
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table and he asked me what, um, he, what I was looking for.
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So I described kind of like what I was looking for in a guy.
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Uh, if anybody wants pizza, I think that's a bit easier at the table.
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I feel like salads is way too complicated and then we'll give it, we'll divvy, divvy
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So I told him and he told me that he didn't think he was the guy for me and that I described
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So he proceeded to FaceTime his best friend at the table and try to pass me off.
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It was just, that was just the craziest thing that had ever happened.
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I don't think that that, he was like, like if, I don't know if I was on a date with a
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girl, like, yeah, maybe it stings a little bit if she's like, Hey, look, I'm well, I
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mean, if she's polite about it, I don't know if it's a good match, but I know a girl who
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you would like, I mean, better than just a rejection, maybe you're getting a, I don't
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He told me that he was like, I think I'm too much of a degenerate for you for his exact
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Which I thought was such an interesting thing to say on a date.
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Did anybody else want pizza just for now or no?
08:17:13.200
So I know you said that you don't want to ever be pregnant and give birth.
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What would you do if you did get pregnant though?
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Um, I think it would honestly be circumstantial because whenever I got pregnant before with
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my ex-husband, um, I, we initially, it was kind of his decision.
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So again, to submitting to a man or whatever, um, he wanted us to get an abortion because
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He had just finished college and he was leaving.
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And then I ended up having, um, a really horrid miscarriage.
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Um, anyway, do you have more than one miscarriage?
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Are you like, would, or have you thought about like getting sterilized or something?
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Um, but would you, or you just take birth control or whatever?
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Um, I don't take birth control because it, it really messes with your hormones.
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Um, so I'm just rolling the dice there and I'm just very, I'm very safe.
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Um, and then I, I track my cycle and all of that.
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Um, so, um, yeah, but it really messed with more, with my hormones.
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I was on birth control for like 10 years and it actually, that actually can make you sterile.
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No, I only do solo content and I would eventually like, if I can do like girl on girl content.
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Um, I, I actually don't think there was anything else in your notes, but you, I did notice you
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Just, uh, you know, don't, uh, moon us or anything, but, uh, turn more, turn more.
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Uh, no, no, lift up, no, turn, what do you, it says, okay.
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There's a little heart outline that says eat me in it.
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She got a tattoo by her bikini line that says eat me.
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And like, I got the heart outline and I was like thinking of that song when I was getting
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So I was like, Oh my God, maybe I'll just get that tattooed.
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I once, this was a long time ago and I've revised my, well, sometimes you don't know
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what a girl's dealing with in terms of tattoos until her clothes are off.
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I went on one date with this girl and I think perhaps luckily we didn't end up having
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sex, but you know, uh, I think we kissed or whatever.
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And right above her pussy, she had a tattoo that said YOLO.
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I didn't, who knows, but that's not a good, that's a bad sign.
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I wouldn't do that, but this one's like cute and dainty.
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I mean, just think of it when, I don't know if I can say this, when you're like in that
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position and like, you know, you're, and you're staring at the tattoo, like, oh, I mean, I
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Just, I, so you weren't made in heaven, but so when the guy's hitting it doggy style,
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I think, I just thought that the tattoo placement was like good.
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Like, do you have like a breeding kink or something?
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like you want to so what is being made in heaven though like it'd be your child or
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no it's like just the body the sexual act i would say it's probably the sexual act like
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feeling like he's hitting it he's reading it like into the mic he's hitting it he's reading it and
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he's like made in heaven damn right but he's saying it while he's hitting no he reads the
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i don't get this made in heaven i don't either so like what if i um like what if here like above
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my penis i just like had like this is the best sex of your life i would hope it would be the best
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sex of her life well i would hope it would be if you have it tattooed oh there's only one way to
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find out i feel like you think it's some loophole or something like well if i have the tattoo it has
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to be heaven that's like what if i just what if i'm a premature ejaculator but i'm like this is the
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best sex of your life you're manifesting yeah you could i could be manifesting it i could be
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manifesting it that's i'm manifesting that i made in heaven i thought it was like a tattoo like you
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were made in heaven so i was thinking you should get the tattoo revised it should say made in cancun
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spring break after backstreet boys concert i will say that they did perform in cancun i think
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in the late 90s or i will say that depending on tattoos if i can't really and i have some but
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it's like a certain style if i don't like the type of tattoos you have it'll be hard for me to be with
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you just because i have to continuously stare at them and it's like you do what you want get what
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you want but i can't who here has tattoos show fans tattoos you know what i just realized my tattoo i
08:23:48.040
could have proved it to you so much longer ago my tattoo is my son's name my first baby what does it
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say stephan stephan oh yeah yeah my first son no that's good yeah that's good um no tattoos
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am i the only one that doesn't i don't have anybody i mean me and every you have a sleeve
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great now i feel bad i was mean to her earlier okay don't listen to me i'm i'm a grumpy old jaded
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man i don't know don't listen to me don't listen to me i'm yeah now you find out that they don't
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drink don't smoke don't have tattoos and oh i didn't know about the not drinking and smoking
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no but i'm just saying uh it's not even that i just uh you know i gotta apologize gotta apologize
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anyway so uh wait wait oh you wanted an apology no i don't know if i look i don't know if an
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apology is warranted but i will say look uh i can you want to pursue your dreams pursue your dreams
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you know you want to do it uh don't listen who what what do i know yeah what do i know i don't know
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anything about music i fucking listen to pearl jam well pearl jam is great but i don't listen to
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like modern music i don't know who sway lee is obviously i'm not obviously i'm not a cool guy
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obviously i'm not in the know you know you know i'm not in the know you know but uh you know listen
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i will say though in the the one criticism you said that the minimum and i don't know if you're
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trolling but you because you wrote a smiley face and a heart what is the minimum yearly income to
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be for your future husband you said 10 million dollars i'm sorry i had to bring i had to bring
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you down i had to bring you back down a little bit 10 million dollars but you want 10 million
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because you'll make 10 million yeah so i hear women say this well i'm gonna make this much money
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so well of course i want the man who makes uh the same as me or more um but uh yeah it's kind of
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like if i don't make that amount then i don't expect him to make that amount no but you believe
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you'll be making that much amount because of the career i mean i'll work on it would you give up your
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career for the perfect man like your dream to sing would you give it up as a career for the perfect man
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no so this but here hear me out the perfect man i think sometimes people misunderstand what i mean
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so perfect so whatever you think perfect would be so perfect looks perfect personality perfect
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uh loyalty he would never leave you uh perfect money so i guess you would maximize this and say
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he's a billionaire um you so he makes so much money or he has so much money you never have to work again
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um perfect perfect best in bed everything that could be perfect treats you the best perfect family
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perfect uh he'd be the perfect father all these things perfect man do you give it up do you give
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up your dream for the perfect man no i'd rather be single you'd rather be single well i am hey look
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people have their pursuits and it is what it is i think though uh i don't think that there's a lot of
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well i don't think there is anyone who's perfect you're going to make a lot of compromises when it
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comes to who you ultimately end up with you might end up with the love of your life and you might think
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they're beautiful and very attractive but i think ultimately there are some things that you know perhaps
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might not be maximal in all aspects in terms of who you end up with like me for example even though
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there's a sort of for men men are like i would give up my career for the perfect woman
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now you might say well brian you're not steadfast enough you don't have you don't have the mission
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in you i think i do but i i acknowledge simultaneously that the perfect woman is so rare
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well not it's not that she's rare she doesn't exist um so for the perfect woman how about this
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let me ask a question going around the table if you could get i know some of you are in relationships
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but hypothetically if you could get a man who's 80 percent of all the things that you want
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but he's missing like the 20 or whatever uh i don't know if i'd frame it as settling but would
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you accept that that's already what i'm doing good to know would you would you accept that he's 80
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of all the things that you want well yeah probably uh yes you would take him yeah okay what about you
08:28:52.620
no no i don't think so wouldn't take him yeah what about you yes but also i'm curious what the
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20 yeah it depends on the 20 yeah that is fair to say that's fair to say um
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hmm i'm not actually sure how i would frame it but what about you i think it depends as well
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if it's like if the 20 is just like looks based like height weight eye color genetics whatever
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then sure but if it's like deal breakers for me like 20 personality too
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well i feel like personality matters to an extent yeah but not deal breaker okay sure what about you
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no because it's not my husband oh i mean she's committed i think so i think they've done this
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as a study actually or they you know they pulled men and women on this question and men jumped at it
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oh of course 80 that'd be fantastic whereas a higher proportion of women are like no if i can't get 100
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i don't want anything i was actually surprised i was surprised for this time mostly you guys said
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i'm not looking for 100 i'm looking for whatever amount he can give and the rest what he can't give
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can we find a way to find common ground can i look past those things because not everyone there's
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no one not everyone's perfect everyone has like their flaws issues whatever so i'm not saying i'm 100
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either they're things that i do and think and say that you know aren't that make me not even close
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to 80 percent 10 million dollars though a year you won't settle for less well around that amount
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it has to be exact okay nine million eight million seven million even if you said one million
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uh that's a lot of money but so you're saying let's say hypothetically of course we all know
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you're going to be extremely successful but let's say for whatever reason it doesn't happen and you
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are a like many actresses and whatever well you're not trying to be an actress i guess uh you end up
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as a waitress or you know whatever it is you uh work you're a barista if you were let's say you're
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making i don't know it could be some other job seventy thousand dollars a year would you be fine dating
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a guy who makes seventy thousand dollars a year i'd probably stay single till i achieve my dreams
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i have a question for you yeah do you think as you are 18 years old that your aspirations and dreams
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they might be a little naive i mean i already mentioned that i think that myself seems a little
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too high and i you think it'll change yeah your opinions your as you grow or do you think this
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gonna be like your your mindset forever well i think it's gonna lower a little bit as i grow because
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life experience is gonna hit me someday and then maybe eventually you'll you'll want that 70k man
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not 70k though not 70k i would rather like if i have to work on myself or i stay single till i
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actually consider myself worthy of being uh able to hold up something
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what's the definition of worthy i mean if if i can't support myself i mean 70k supports me but not
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to the point where i'm glad with how it supports me i guess that just goes back to like what you were
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saying about those high expectations and the high self-esteem thing you were saying it's okay
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yeah she's 18 dude well that's why that's why i'm asking like you know to reflect i think maybe
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this is like a naive thought that you could grow to adjust as you to go on do you what are you like
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triggering at like what are you pushing at towards me for i'm not trying to trigger i'm just trying
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just just saying something that you might think about you're telling me to consider to neglect that
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no i'm saying is i'm trying to get you to reflect if this is what you're thinking now
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is it really what you think you're gonna think forever when i was 18 i thought that if i couldn't
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figure out what i wanted to do in college i was going to chop my hair off and move to france okay like
08:33:36.920
we all have different ideas and expectations you know what i mean so let her figure shit out so why
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did you not chop your but wait look i think look we can let her dream however um i don't think
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there's anything wrong with wanting to pursue a passion or pursue your dream or pursue your career
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i think my primary objection is is the number well look also my confusion here is if you're making 10
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million dollars would it really matter all that much like you're making so much money 10 million
08:34:17.980
dollars a year you could date a guy who's technically broke and be totally fine financially then i'm a
08:34:26.440
sugar mommy i'm not a sugar mom but you realize like okay so when you say you want to date a guy who
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makes 10 million dollars a year a year that's such a small proportion of men a really small amount of men
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uh it's 0.0001 or something very few men make this much money um i don't even how many how many i i'm
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not even interested in a percentage how many men here let me just ask gpt um let's just do this how
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many men in the united oops in the u.s earn 10 million a year i hope they don't give me a percentage
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let's see uh one sec uh okay so according to irs statistics of income 2080 individual tax returns
08:35:25.660
reported adjusted gross income of 10 million or more 2 000 men and most of those men are probably
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probably probably probably already in a relationship most likely um married kids old so you probably
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want a guy i don't know let's say you make by the time you're 30 you're making that much
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the amount of men like that you would i don't know like do you date older men um like how old or how much
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older no like 50 no i would not it's okay say you're 30 would you date a guy maybe you date a guy
08:36:06.440
between 30 and 40 if i'm 30 maybe yeah yeah it's just so few men that make that much money so it's a
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bit unrealistic but then like let's say you don't make that much money the question is what's like
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what do you reduce your threshold of the man's yearly income to be like a hundred thousand or is
08:36:30.840
that too low a million still a million okay so let's say you're broke let's say you're broke
08:36:36.300
minimum to yearly income to date you if i'm broke minimal income for him how much does he have to make
08:36:45.380
if i'm broke if you're broke if i'm broke then i'm probably single too
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well i mean you can be broken as a woman and still date but um just for the hypothetical if i would be
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broke i'm trying to think okay let's say you have you are a barista and you have a studio apartment
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so you're not broke but you're kind of broke but um what's the minimum yearly income for a man to be
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well that's a kind of like a wide range because i don't know where i'm gonna be in
08:37:39.680
hey you gave it a shot but my future husband how am i gonna know what i'm gonna be earning in the
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future if you're a barista at 30 you gotta pack it up oh i'm 30 i'm 30 okay let me lock in
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i'm already 30 i'm a barista and i have an apartment uh studio apartment yeah well he would probably
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no i'd probably be single then i don't deserve to have a relationship wait what if i don't make
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it i don't deserve to wait women don't need to make money to deserve a relationship i i consider that
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i don't i don't think anyone's supposed to like financially like i don't have a job
08:38:36.560
let me ask your parents are they still together no they're separated yeah your mom poisoned your
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father and murdered him who murdered someone are your parents both of them alive yeah okay but
08:38:55.660
they're separated yeah okay oh man that would have been bad uh okay they're they're separated um
08:39:01.820
okay well were they were married okay when they were married was what was the dynamic
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i mean dynamic was uh was was he paying for was he like the breadwinner i guess and she stayed at
08:39:19.760
home and took care of the kids yeah i mean it's been a it's been a a way people are it's been a dynamic
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for most of human history it's not when people make it obvious or like pointing it out like oh
08:39:38.340
i'm paying for everything uh you wouldn't you wouldn't want to that dynamic yeah no because
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it's just shameful but like you said men should pay on first dates and men should be chivalrous and
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that's just kindness that's just a person being a person okay well look men don't care about your money
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really it should not it should not it would not prevent you from dating somebody if your money
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wasn't right i mean clearly you're 18 right i'm assuming you're not making like a bunch of money
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at 18 probably but a bunch of men probably want to date you you're an attractive girl you live in los angeles
08:40:21.880
i'd prefer staying single you have like three boyfriends
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and like 10 eight dudes on your roster who said their boyfriends if they're well they're three guys
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they've been with you for six months a year three years i don't even know i feel like you're being
08:40:45.940
kind of you're holding something back about this i don't know it's kind of confusing are any of them
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married or in relationships no do you like cuddle with them
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no so i'm just i don't know if we fully grasp what exactly is the nature of these because like
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when i asked you like if there's guys in the picture
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but that question would imply like it's not just friends
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i mean it's okay so i don't know from my stand-up point i envision people who have feelings for me
08:41:28.100
like they are in the picture they're talking to me they have feelings for me and you have feelings
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back i would hope no why do you kiss them you oh she kisses them i don't know yeah yeah yeah i just
08:41:38.960
feel bad oh you mercy kiss i would like i wouldn't go any further than that as i said
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no no no i would not do that exactly i mean the three-year guy you should at least give him a couple
08:41:52.460
pity fucks that's a long time it was or a cuddle but i was like no you pity kiss only i only kiss i
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said i don't go any further than that hand-holding
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if they ask for a hug i'm like it just seems like you're wasting your time do they know that
08:42:10.080
you hate them like literally they're probably in love with her yeah are they in love with you have
08:42:15.220
they said i love you yeah are they like wait all of them yeah have you said i love you back
08:42:19.880
no i can't say i can't lie how are you benefiting and from this in any way good question or then
08:42:27.140
yeah what are you getting out of this yeah i thought she said she gets a place to stay when
08:42:30.780
she's in new york oh my god that's not worth like having like a year long all they do is kiss so
08:42:39.480
the hotel is right no i do you talk about how it costs money exactly well this only costs a kiss
08:42:46.220
maybe well yeah but it's like that seems like a lot of work to save that amount amount of money
08:42:54.780
like if you're gonna be a gold digger you might as well fucking go all the way like i mean shit
08:42:59.680
have him rent you an apartment in new york what are you talking about that's not worth it
08:43:05.640
but okay aren't there guys who live in la that you're seeing yeah like one of them you've been
08:43:11.260
six months a year yeah six what are you getting actually i don't know he's very weird do you want
08:43:19.400
who's in la he's actually very weird like he he's a youtuber no no no he's not um he's also a music
08:43:27.240
artist but he's told me like very weird things like like one day okay we're just talking like
08:43:37.400
friends we're in a friend come like a little friend group and then he just one day he texts me like at
08:43:43.400
3 a.m i was literally sleeping i saw this at 6 a.m when i woke up there's like seven texts all the
08:43:50.780
texts were like this long and they say hey i have like these things for you and these feelings are
08:43:56.640
very strange and let me describe them and they were like and all of that all of that all of that and
08:44:04.420
it summed up as like i still don't know what i'm feeling for you and but i think i just i'm like
08:44:10.740
attracted to you and you my soulmate and you're like i have i can fix her this is crazy you for
08:44:16.760
life and i love you so much and i was like i don't know like what i have to do with a person who has so
08:44:25.860
many like he's literally telling me i love you so much i have like you're my soulmate for life
08:44:32.320
i don't know i feel connected to you or you gotta let this guy down i mean you gotta let him down if
08:44:37.240
you're not feeling it and he's you're just stringing him along i think you gotta let him down
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i don't know if i might in the future oh i just i mean for even if you approach it from a selfish
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perspective i mean it takes a lot not a lot but like like he's texting you and you're reading the
08:45:00.600
text it seems like a waste of time for you and it's a waste of time for him you're not into it sound
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look let me ask you point blank are you into the guy
08:45:09.200
i that's the deal she doesn't know oh my gosh all right maybe you have to figure that out she's 18
08:45:18.800
she'll figure that out oh man that would be so cool with a girl and she's like i don't know how i
08:45:24.320
feel about you that makes you even more in love if it's toxic i guess but i don't know well he must
08:45:32.880
you know dating is not like doesn't have to be this complicated thing i understand it can be
08:45:38.260
complicated but it's like i like you you like me let's be together why can't that's simple
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anyways i can fix her you gotta you gotta lose all the dudes and you gotta be wearing a
08:45:51.760
what is it the babushkas wear what do they wear what are the head covers that the russian women wear
08:45:56.980
headscarf i'll have you in the kitchen in a headscarf making russian dumplings seven sons
08:46:04.200
seven sons seven sons you can sing you can sing in the bat in the shower how about that i did that
08:46:10.940
10 years ago what no sing in the shower oh uh okay court you stabbed yourself after getting cheated on
08:46:19.300
yes i did after you got cheated on with your current husband no so this was a different
08:46:27.940
person that cheated on me actually you've been cheated on a lot every relationship
08:46:39.080
i did it makes a lot of sense why i got cheated on a lot my type was broken and needing to be fixed
08:46:47.820
are you also broken and needing to be fixed i was because they're so okay tell us about the
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stabbing so and reenact it with this pen okay wait wait actually don't do that here reenact it
08:47:04.860
with a fake knife okay where did you stab yourself was it like wait what in the stomach twice you did
08:47:11.340
like a harikari oh are you like seppuku a seppuku or harikari there's two you can still see
08:47:20.540
but yeah i stabbed myself two times are you able to zip down just a teeny bit so i think
08:47:25.180
okay we see it it's just those two it's not lower no no it's just those two wow that girl would have
08:47:35.200
like how here with your hands sometimes i know women can misjudge like the size of
08:47:44.440
objects but what are we measuring it's like penises or whatever a knife um the knife how big was the
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knife it was a pretty big knife it was a paring knife so it was like that but it was super paring
08:47:55.220
paring knife paring it's like in a kitchen like the one you cut pair like like the ones
08:47:58.900
the ones that will take the skin off what is that that's a peeling knife no not paring
08:48:06.880
paring knife is like it's it's okay can we no serrated no no no okay whatever you know my
08:48:13.200
parents kept a knife with knife the edge is like um it's like it's long it's the actual blade and
08:48:19.200
then it's like this thick herring i don't fuck with small they're small knives it's not pairs like
08:48:26.320
that it's smaller than a butter i don't eat pairs so oh i see it okay so it's maybe a couple inches
08:48:32.500
yeah like your ex yeah yeah yeah okay it's okay look
08:48:37.360
and you uh-huh stabbed yourself full force once or twice it was twice
08:48:45.040
you it was the same sitting setting yes yes once pull out second time yeah in front of him
08:48:54.960
what are you supposed to do with the sepulch he was far away aren't you supposed to like
08:48:59.400
you gotta like go side yeah you're supposed to like god yourself i was very drunk i had relapsed
08:49:05.860
have you ever stabbed a man no i would never stab anybody did you consider oh man that's crazy i'd
08:49:15.040
be scared i'd be a little scared to date a woman who did that but um did you ever consider cutting
08:49:19.500
his dick off no i would never you would do that okay yeah not now in my current life you stabbed
08:49:27.620
yourself yeah that's the only time i've ever and you're drunk yeah and high or just not high just
08:49:32.380
drunk off of what uh jose cuervo tequila gold you stabbed yourself while drunk off jose cuervo
08:49:38.580
yeah sponsor me and then did you go to the hospital or oh yeah an ambulance came so did you perforate
08:49:45.460
your stomach lining there is tissue damage but i didn't get to my actual organs because i weighed
08:49:51.860
quite a bit more than i do now you were obese yeah or were you yeah i was like 200 pounds
08:49:58.580
whoa yeah transformation in there thank you less than a year lived quite the life yeah i went to
08:50:06.420
jail after i stabbed myself too because i beat somebody up in the same night after you stabbed
08:50:10.880
yourself no before are you sure it was just tequila yeah tequila well i drank the whole bottle though
08:50:17.340
was this before you beat up a man or a woman um both so there were three battery charges you beat up
08:50:24.760
a couple yes and then also a girl separately so three people yes you beat up three people
08:50:31.200
and then after the you beat them up yeah did you use a weapon when you beat them up or it was just
08:50:37.540
your hands uh just my hands i beat them up pretty bad two of them turned into felony charges everything's
08:50:44.620
dropped now i'm a free innocent girl wait they dropped it um how would you get dropped the felonies
08:50:51.140
got dropped down to miss oh but you got charged but okay i see what you're saying yeah i'm not a felon
08:50:55.660
um well i only got charged with one battery so i'm a free girl but i did spend two months in jail
08:51:02.060
um the fighting happened first and then my neighbor said the police were coming and so i was like okay i'm
08:51:08.880
gonna get arrested i'm just gonna end it all and the whole reason i was fighting in the first place
08:51:15.980
and like fighting those girls was because of the cheating
08:51:20.400
so oh wait did and drink were those girls the one of them cheating one of them yeah one of them
08:51:30.880
we're actually friends now and then you beat up the guy who was your boyfriend no i beat up a
08:51:35.620
totally no like a random like like and a random chick yeah like neighbors
08:51:41.460
were they like trying to intervene or something um no the man just always would be weird towards me
08:51:49.600
and like try to do stuff so i started yelling at the lady like your husband wants to fuck me
08:51:55.100
he's always trying to get with me he's knocking on my door like i started yelling and then yeah
08:52:00.960
was this before or after your first kid this was after i didn't change my life around until the
08:52:10.820
beginning of this year pregnant no no no all my kids were born already when this happened this
08:52:15.920
happened wait at the beginning of this year wait so hold on it was a different guy that made you do
08:52:22.780
the stabbing that you were dating so your current boyfriend yes you already with your current
08:52:29.960
boyfriend those are his three kids yes so this was when you were broken up with him yeah after i left
08:52:35.740
this was after the cheating and the the and then you were dating a different guy you already had
08:52:40.700
three kids and then that other guy cheated on you yeah and then you drunk drank drunk drink
08:52:49.860
some jose cuero some tequila yeah got all fucked up stabbed yourself well first you beat up three
08:52:55.920
people was it were they all together or were these like separate completely like all three or two of
08:53:01.400
them the the one girl was by herself and a couple the cheating girl well the other yeah yeah so you
08:53:08.340
beat her up then a little bit later yeah you beat up yeah the neighbors i was just kind of like
08:53:14.660
running around i was out in my car yeah i was out in my car i'm sure there's some body cam
08:53:21.000
ring whatever were you already drunk when you were beating him up yeah yeah yeah i wouldn't fight
08:53:26.760
not drunk i just turn into a demon when i'm drunk which is why i'm sober now wow that's insane uh
08:53:35.060
that's thank you for sharing that though that's crazy i know that is um have you uh have you ever
08:53:42.720
slashed a guy's tires um no not the tires what have you what did you slash like the inside where the
08:53:51.900
radio is because he could just replace his tires it's harder to replace a radio oh you thought that
08:53:55.780
through yeah yeah um have you ever burned a guy's clothes yes my dad's your dad's yeah he cheated on
08:54:06.140
my mommy wow yeah the loyalty oh boy that was when i was like like a teenager though
08:54:20.380
yeah we were on a reality show called nanny 911 because we were really bad kids oh yeah the king
08:54:29.040
family go watch it anyway um when was this what year oh jesus 2004 i was four but i was okay you
08:54:36.880
should hear me curse i was not it was horrible i was a bad kid oh boy but yeah that's crazy
08:54:42.280
uh the king family all right we're gonna find that that's crazy holy shit okay uh let's see and then
08:54:50.540
uh you said you've cheated uh you left your husband wait so your current boyfriend you were married to
08:54:58.980
him no i put husband because that's just what i call him yeah it's not okay that's right i remember
08:55:03.640
that um okay but you left him you got with another guy that other guy cheated on you you're now back with
08:55:09.400
your husband um you've cheated since you got back with him is that correct no not since i got back
08:55:16.960
with him just like the times since leaving him oh sorry the time since leaving him like the two
08:55:22.220
relationships i had been in i cheated on them so brutally like horrible have you ever gotten std
08:55:28.720
no oh my cheating is never sex by the way what is your cheating um like kissing or just like some
08:55:35.620
dumb shit like something that's not really yeah yeah i mean it's still cheating but yeah but not
08:55:41.520
like i wouldn't want to ruin my life like that okay body but your but your boyfriend fiancee slash
08:55:48.900
husband he's cheated like all the way through oh yeah he's fucked other people but i wouldn't want
08:55:54.500
to do that because yeah you write uh modern dating is literally fucked it seems like everyone is cheating
08:55:59.980
or micro cheating uh because you you write it seems like becoming a cheater is way more probable
08:56:05.080
uh yeah okay uh alissa six months single alisa yeah you got it thank you be pissed off at your
08:56:16.380
parents or something um isn't it pronounced it's pronounced alisa russian because alisa okay all right
08:56:25.640
i'll try to get it proper uh six months single post one year relationship with a guy you thought
08:56:31.000
you were going to marry that didn't work out sacrificing yeah yeah yeah we can skip that later
08:56:39.760
well i have a question for you actually given like you know you make the decisions a lot with your
08:56:45.960
relationships is um if i was willing to move to a whole nother state where like i did not really i
08:56:55.460
would have to essentially start my life over for him i was willing to do that your life should be
08:57:00.000
your boyfriend's life right right okay thank you you're welcome but asking to move to a town over
08:57:07.960
that's 15 minutes away from where he lives is that asking for too much to be in an apartment that suits
08:57:14.360
both of our needs but you were asking him or he was asking you i was asking considering that i was
08:57:20.940
willing to move several states over if he would be willing to move to a town that's like 15 minutes
08:57:26.860
away from him so that we could be in an apartment that was that catered to both of our needs not
08:57:34.700
necessarily cheaper but had things that both of us needed you know um so he you wanted to move
08:57:43.620
i was willing to move for him to a whole nother state to massachusetts where he lives i wasn't asking
08:57:50.960
what's the question i'm willing to move to another state to massachusetts where he lives but he doesn't
08:57:57.180
want him he didn't want to move to another town in massachusetts 15 like 15 minutes from where he
08:58:03.640
currently lives in massachusetts was that asking for too much well what what was his reasoning to decline
08:58:10.240
he didn't want to be far from the beach because he likes to step outside of his apartment to surf
08:58:16.080
valid 100% valid w boyfriend thank you sorry i'm just no you're fine i'm a i'm a boy's boy i can see
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that boy's boy gotta have the boys back this whole thing has been a boy's boys conversation uh no i'm a
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i'm one of the girls sure you i'm a girl's girl yeah it's a safe space okay uh a few things from you
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we're pretty close here uh dating in the music industry have you dated a i mean kind of what i
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mentioned before but because i think ava brought up something earlier i kind of remember something else
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i didn't even mention in the chat so actually hold on let me think about this one of my exes
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was chinese that was okay that was in the u.s but he was chinese uh his family was oh me so horny
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me love you long time sorry sorry sorry sorry all right um so he was chinese um his family was
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chinese he has a huge family and he was it was just such a weird date i feel okay we had like
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in total we had like three dates yeah but i think every time it just got even weirder because the
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first date okay he took me to like some restaurant it wasn't like just like some italian place and i was
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like okay you know like what's the deal i didn't really like him i just went because i felt bad for
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him again um and we just spoke and he was a little older and i lied about my age
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oh wait you were on you were underage well yeah what did you okay what was your age and what did
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you say your age was i was 16 i think i was 16 how old was he he was like 20 i think but i i like
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when we were sitting there i thought it would be a red flag for like me to say hey i'm just like 16
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so i said i was like i was 19 and he believed that i mean i'm just kind of mature so it was
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believable i had a job you know like it would make sense that i was 19 was it rice gum
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rice rice gum no he's older than that he said he's an asian guy so okay okay chinese so that was
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the first like i lied about my age then he dropped me off home and i just felt very bad and i felt very
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weird but i was like okay i don't know where this is going yet then we have the second date and he
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decides to invite me to his house and he mentions while we're driving there he's he's mentioning that
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he has a huge house he has nine brothers and that he has
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seven snakes at home like pet snakes yeah and eight cats okay and i'm like what because that was
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like i don't think you would do that on a second date like hey let's go to my house i have seven
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snakes and nine cats but i went and i was like okay whatever let's go i came to his house and he was
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like all right sit down and i sat on the sofa and he started cooking for me he would clean for me he
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would like he i started making like a full-blown meal he made like i don't know i don't know whatever
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i just felt so awkward i i don't know who cooks for a person especially i know you just said about
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women being traditional women cleaning women cooking but then here is like the full opposite when
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a guy invites me to his place seats me down and starts cooking for me cleaning for me and i just
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i just felt so i kind of felt out of place i just didn't know what to do it was very awkward and all
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these snakes being there i'm like i don't like snakes at all and i was it just felt and the place was a
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mansion because he had nine brothers but for some reason no one was home it was just him
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and i was like it was a nice place it was a very weird place wait he's a musician no he's not a
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musician imagine imagine like you know a person from a second date you're sitting on his sofa in a two
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story like mansion with eight snakes and nine cats and you're like i mean it maybe it's a little
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peculiar the amount of animals but um i don't know if it's i mean but the only thing that okay and then
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after he made my meal uh we ate the meal we're sitting talking and then he just like takes me
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straight to his bedroom i'm like seriously like already well it was only the second date and i was
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like i kind of like i don't usually do that yeah i mean like have you ever done that only with someone
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i feel very attracted to like personality wise like oh they're hot as hell but i didn't see that i mean
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i don't i don't i don't have a like a primary thing for chinese guys i don't know at this point
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i'm looking back at it and i don't know why i kept like being led on i was like okay let's let's go like
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okay okay but like right now i would just say okay i'm not interested but he starts like it's he starts
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doing his thing and then we're like already doing it and i realized that sorry go go ahead continue go
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ahead you realized or i realized that it's just very he's just very very like throwing me off absolutely
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i don't know what was either like him cooking for me either him like providing everything either him
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being like too pleasing like he was like trying to impress me but it wasn't working
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and i just i think he wasn't using the correct tactics
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the meta the most yeah what does it stand for most effective most most effective tactics available
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his meta was all fucked up wait but so you did sleep with him
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i it's like we see we like started and like in the middle it like mid mid all this stuff
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he like starts whispering to me and he's he's like oh no what does he say is it in chinese
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i mean he did have like oh i just can't like look at his eyes and they're like so squinty
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he pissed off me he's like you're so sexy and i was like and that that's my that's my breaking point
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wait you don't like when people talk during no it's just with his accent or something
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oh no you're so sexy oh wait do it again do it again you're so sexy
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what the fuck was that was that indian what kind of like roll of the tongue
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can i do like a vietnamese accent absolutely not anybody vietnamese
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who can do a nail impression who can do an indian one oh yeah yeah do it do it do it
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you want a gel nail you want a five dollar for the for the design on your ring finger
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it was okay it was okay it's okay wait so okay hold on but did you continue seeing the guy the chinese
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guy okay no um because so it's a one-time thing honestly after that after that we did
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meet but it was less you know like i was trying to stay away from you i don't know why i just felt
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but you had you i don't know how he did it he just wasn't what is it well you uh
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it's it you you got turned on like after the sex during the sex no i got turned off i was like
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i could not but then you had sex with him anyways no uh the third time we met i think
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yeah i didn't mention how many times did you guys hook up uh well we like had sex or just
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what uh you said the third time you met up with him just met didn't like do anything because you
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said the second date he took you to the bedroom showed you the snakes and the cats and his mansion
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was empty and then so but so it was the second date you guys had sex uh and then the third date
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you had sex again no the third date um we went like hiking or whatever at like 12 a.m
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at midnight yeah i have no idea is he on like meth or something he's on china time this guy's gonna
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fucking murder you what the fuck i have a question so you said something about not wanting to like
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string that guy along this guy so what's so different about not wanting to string him along
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but you can string these three guys along uh what i i just this three guys she's currently talking
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too she's like stringing them along but she just said she didn't want to string this guy along
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i mean i did for how long i could she did string him along for three times so wait but then it was
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over three times over i just felt bad because okay yeah and it was over sex like i mean it's still
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hit still i i i got home i was like okay i'm home and but then i never like responded to him
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again but he kept calling me or he kept texting me it was like hey if i did something wrong just like
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you know like we could oh did you ghost him talk about it i kind of did i was very avoided when i
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was younger i'm trying to work on it and be less avoidant to people just try not to ghost people but
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it's difficult um you have for an 18 year old you have a lot of lore you do do you know what lore is
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l-o-r-e lore i have a lot of lore you know what lore is oh you're a man that's a woman term
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like i think like who like tara yummy don't get me started about world of warcraft lore okay
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i don't want to hear any more please i'm already so confused yeah i'm not gonna get into it i'm not
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gonna get into it i'm not actually much flower song and ranger arts or whatever
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a magnum core the magnums okay so i feel like this is maybe like the third you've got like
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two seven other crazy stories too probably oh probably like seven oh boy
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70s 70s oh seven sorry i thought you said d meant no you seven 70 70 stories 70 stories
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what is you know i had like four car 18 four car accidents i feel like you're 18 you know what
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i don't know la la is another beast los angeles is another beast um but weren't you in arizona
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i was in arizona that wasn't arizona this was in arizona the hiking oh yeah imagine that
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you had a thick chinese accent imagine the snakes the the heat the hiking and and that would like
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it being 90 degrees fahrenheit actually that'd be quite pleasant all this sounds lovely i personally
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love snakes it's a good i love snakes too i mean i never took shrooms but it sounds like a trip
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you have an interesting story um okay but you said fake dating what does that mean really quickly
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fake dating yeah fake dating in your notes oh yeah no i just feel like a lot of people
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so that's what's more about la more about after moving here i realized that some people
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date each other for opportunities and i i didn't like do that i i'm very against that
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okay but i just see it happening and i'm like oh you like i see one person that is very much
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into their partner but their partner just their furdy whatever so like you
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no i'm just i'm just being sorry for people i'm not that's not they're not giving me opportunities
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right opportunities i mean people in the industry let's say they date for having an opportunity like
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oh i'm with this guy he's successful see that's something that resonates because that's that's
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fake dating that's what i call fake dating oh i need to go are there any we're almost done
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okay hang tight i swear we're we're at the tail end here like almost done i got you boo like five
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to ten my luggage is sitting on somebody's front porch right now what what oh wait yeah sorry yeah
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we're good don't worry we're this this her notes are the last there's like two three other things
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we're we're at the tail end here i got you okay um really quick really quick look honestly the
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reason it's not my fault this show goes so long i just think sometimes you guys speak on 0.5 speed
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so um you wanted to talk about like dating norms between like russia and usa give me the quick
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quick thing there hold on i'm gonna think fast i'm gonna think fast i just think she said something
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about people in america not knowing what they want but i think it's the other way around like people
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sometimes i would see people in russia they're completely lost they're like oh you know i don't
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know what i'm feeling right now i don't know what i want to do like with my feelings but rather than in
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the u.s uh a guy kind of knows where he's going with a relationship or where he wants to take it
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wait so you're saying in the united states men are more uh have more of a direction but in russia
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no yeah i would say that's true even though she said like the complete opposite i don't know maybe
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i would disagree with you like based on my own russian husband who was very like he just knew what
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he wanted well you guys are maybe okay um all right a few more things here uh okay we have to
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we have to do the mary let's just do the by the way there were different gender swaps did you see
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that like there were two different batches you didn't catch it okay all right can you get those
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going while i get those going we'll just do that as a fun segment i don't know but it that doesn't
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really matter if you can just get the other the other batch of them pulled up well there's age
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and then gender swap you have one batch of those correct okay get the other batch it's in the same
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tab you'll see it i'm sure uh okay uh all done with notes um we could do
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it's always tough when the not everybody's at the table uh we could also do bumble segment but i i
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think you probably have to get everything like pulled up and stuff right here really quick why
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don't we just do the bumble segment we're only going to do two girls here we're going to do the
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10 and the 10. we'll just do that now okay so wait hold on uh what is the age what is the age range
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all right do you know how to change it mary okay 18 to 26 18 to 26 honestly hold on well it depends
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okay sure that's a fine that's a fine range let's do that okay go ahead all right so we need quick
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answers you get to see you see one photo hey uh mary put us on gh5 center zoom
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you gotta hide the other one all right uh just yes or no no
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quick quick quick quick maybe yeah i don't have to see if it no or yes
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oh my god too late which one is he uh either let's say the left that's probably the better
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looking one probably yeah i mean i don't know how long i'm gonna be dating him for don't worry
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just yes or no yes or no please no but he looks just yes or no yes or no no other commentary
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no no no no no yes no no i don't know who is he no hey that was the guy you already had sex with
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no no no no they're they're just showing you asian guys now it's crazy i guess no wait he's
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mexico yes oh my god we know our type fuck boy i'm like is david the cat no
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uh yes no no no yes no he was a kid no um dang it was fast no
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uh no i don't know what uh no yes no he's a cowboy or something okay yes
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no all right we'll leave it there uh okay you don't even have a normal photo they actually
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they were pretty generous with some of the men that they showed you there um all right so uh
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pretty good range all right we'll give you 20 swipes
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vietnam is where they were all rushing onto the plane in that war right