Whatever Podcast - August 27, 2026


Lindsay Clancy Supporter HEATED DEBATE! Bear vs. PPD Mom? Brian CLASHES With A 10? | Dating Talk 309 (PART 2)


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00:03:12.120 introduce themselves, starting with you. Go ahead. Hi, everyone. My name is Laura. I'm 19 years old
00:03:19.920 from LA. I'm currently in college, and I do OnlyFans. Welcome. Okay. Any college? Yeah,
00:03:29.440 I'm currently in college. Okay. The one thing I forgot was to adjust the microphones a little
00:03:36.620 bit so i apologize guys i forgot to do this pre-show uh we were uh running late okay i'm
00:03:44.220 really quick i know this is going to be boring for the viewers really quick i just have to do
00:03:47.160 these adjustments uh let me have you scoot your mic this way okay so have your mic straight towards
00:03:53.400 you uh scoot it more scoot it more scoot it more edge of the table please edge of the table let
00:03:58.780 me have you you tilt your microphone down let me see everyone in speaking position i'm sorry guys
00:04:03.620 um all right everyone in speaking position please good uh you here uh tilt your microphone down
00:04:14.420 please me yes you okay speaking position
00:04:25.780 okay do you guys know how to raise your mics a little bit let me you know what um we're just
00:04:30.420 going to keep them as is we'll just keep them as is maybe molly you might be able to move yours up
00:04:35.140 a bit sorry guys missed it during our pre-show people were late so um okay uh introduce yourself
00:04:41.140 please hi my name is molly um i am from utah but i now live in la yes i'm lds um i do only fans for
00:04:51.780 work and no college. Okay. All right. Did you say your age? I don't think you said your age.
00:05:05.120 I said at the end, yeah, I'm 20. I forgot to at first. All right. What about you?
00:05:10.980 Hi, my name is Asal. I'm 22. I currently reside in LA. I am a student and I don't work.
00:05:18.140 my boyfriend pays for everything you you don't work no work um you know did you go to college
00:05:27.720 yeah i currently um attend santa barbara santa barbara where you city college ucsb or santa
00:05:34.900 barbara city college city college now i don't know if you guys remember this woman she was on
00:05:39.120 some of our very earliest episodes back in 2022 so like four years ago you were on episode 22
00:05:45.240 and you were episode 24, I believe.
00:05:49.240 So that was 2022.
00:05:50.400 It's now 2026.
00:05:51.840 You're 18 back then.
00:05:53.460 You're 22 now.
00:05:56.740 Now Santa Barbara City College is a two-year college.
00:06:00.700 You were at City College back then, correct?
00:06:04.200 Correct.
00:06:05.000 So you're a super senior at a city college?
00:06:07.800 Exactly.
00:06:09.080 I completed my associates and getting my bachelor's.
00:06:15.240 Well, I don't believe, does City College issue bachelor's degrees?
00:06:21.700 I'm dual schooling at UCI as well.
00:06:23.920 Sorry, I forgot to mention it.
00:06:24.620 Okay, so you're getting credits at City College, and it's going towards UCI.
00:06:29.320 Yes.
00:06:29.780 So what did you get your associate's degree in?
00:06:32.560 Criminology.
00:06:33.740 Criminology.
00:06:34.900 And then what are you getting your bachelor's degree in?
00:06:39.920 Study of human behavior, which is a mix of psychology and criminal justice as well.
00:06:45.760 And have you taken, when's the most, like are you taking summer classes?
00:06:51.840 Yes, summer classes just finished and I'm starting fall.
00:06:55.920 And on Monday I start my first class in person.
00:06:59.000 When was your last class?
00:07:00.540 Was it like a week or two ago?
00:07:01.880 Yes, correct, two weeks ago.
00:07:03.000 What class or classes were you taking?
00:07:05.600 Forensics and then Psych 250.
00:07:10.760 Psych 250.
00:07:11.920 What was it?
00:07:12.360 Do you know the title of the class?
00:07:15.400 I do not.
00:07:17.540 Did it have a title?
00:07:18.960 Like, I don't know, Psychology of XYZ?
00:07:21.400 It was Psychology of Human Sex.
00:07:24.340 Okay.
00:07:25.500 So you took a forensics class.
00:07:28.320 You took a psych class.
00:07:30.000 You have an associate's degree.
00:07:31.500 and you very recently finished up those two classes can you tell me from the forensics class
00:07:38.220 one or two takeaways from that class correct okay so we study the blood patterns on
00:07:46.100 how blood drops fall and if it was premeditated or planned so what the premeditation is when the
00:07:57.000 blood drop falls and it's just perfect there's no splatter or getting passed through anywhere
00:08:03.580 and that's when um you know when the it was a not a suicide more like a murder okay so like blood
00:08:11.180 splatter analysis uh and then psych 250 can you just tell us like one takeaway from that
00:08:17.660 um we learned about sexuality as well and how if like how sex is very important and for men
00:08:26.960 especially and for men and women men do need more like they need to be more sexually active
00:08:33.500 than women should be for their brain
00:08:36.780 I mean I didn't take psych 250 and I could have told you that but is there anything maybe like
00:08:46.900 a bit more specific or, like, academic you could relate to us about that you learned?
00:08:52.340 This class was pretty short, but what we also study is women's behaviors and how their brain
00:08:58.740 works, and they did that through testings of, like, masturbation, and they study the
00:09:05.540 brain through the CT scans, and the woman's brain tends to be a lot more happier when
00:09:11.960 they are finishing and it has long lasting effects so if a woman isn't having a lot of sex
00:09:19.920 they tend to be a lot built up so wait um do you have uh scholarships or you sell your parents
00:09:30.400 paying for this you're paying for this i have scholarships and um as well so the one takeaway
00:09:38.020 from the psych 250 men care about men sex good women sex good women happier when have sex and
00:09:48.320 orgasm yeah it was mostly about sex it's just like do you need to pay like like i could i think i
00:09:57.860 could like ask like a special ed kid who's like retarded do you think that women feel better when
00:10:07.680 they have orgasms and that retarded kid would tell me yes exactly so why are we like this is
00:10:15.560 taxpayer subsidized by the way I okay anyways I'm not going to dig in too deep on that but um
00:10:20.120 maybe college is a scam I don't know okay so but you said your boyfriend pays for everything
00:10:26.160 yeah he supports me and have you ever had a job um I did when I did like a year and a half ago
00:10:33.360 and then i've been just studying more and taking care of myself hanging out with my dog okay um
00:10:41.320 i'm not gonna we'll come back to the relationship sad stuff really quick how long have you been
00:10:46.940 with him though a year and a half so you um does he pay the rent yes okay um because i i want to
00:10:55.560 dive in a little bit here just momentarily in your pre-show notes to us you said that you're
00:11:00.900 a strong, independent woman. You seem quite dependent on your boyfriend who's been paying
00:11:08.500 your rent and paying everything and paying your bills for a year and a half. So how do you
00:11:13.760 reconcile being a strong, independent woman when you are dependent on your boyfriend?
00:11:20.660 Well, he recently started paying my rent only so we could get the place ready for Airbnb. We have
00:11:26.240 a plan together it's not a forever thing but i'm going to be done with school soon and once we
00:11:32.180 airbnb this place out i'm going to join the air force so we're going to be making money from that
00:11:36.380 i'm technically doing an interior design with the place getting it together so we make some
00:11:40.600 money on the side as i'm away because right now he doesn't have to pay rent and he comes down and
00:11:46.040 visits me a lot so and wait um just one question so is it you said comes down and visits you is
00:11:54.060 it long distance yes it is so where does he live where do you live he lives in norcal like an hour
00:11:58.620 in the valley more like an hour away from san francisco okay and you live in la yeah wait so
00:12:07.040 hold on he doesn't you mean he doesn't pay rent where he lives in northern california yeah because
00:12:14.380 he's planning on moving down but his job is a union job and it's hard to transfer down how long
00:12:18.860 has he been paying your rent for or whatever um it's been only three months i just moved to la
00:12:24.180 i was living with him up north for a while so wait hold on you were living with him so
00:12:33.240 i mean typically in a relationship it's better to be close distance than long distance
00:12:38.640 was it whose idea was it to move to la um it was mine because i'm starting uci in person classes
00:12:45.000 so it's a lot more convenient for me okay um now whose idea was it to pay the rent was it
00:12:53.440 your idea no it was his he offered he he offered correct now do you have the means to pay your own
00:13:00.660 rent yeah I could pay my own rent I could get a job it's just he would rather me focus on my
00:13:05.720 school so i could get everything ready okay so um as a strong independent woman why are you relying
00:13:18.520 on a man to pay your rent i'm not relying it's just i like to relax sometimes i'm still independent
00:13:25.420 and that's why he loves me and that's why he's doing what he's doing well you did say you have
00:13:32.020 the means you did say you have the means to pay for your own rent but again uh i feel i would be
00:13:41.020 under the impression that a woman who considers herself strong and independent and gives herself
00:13:46.940 the title of a strong independent woman as you've done she would insist even if the boyfriend is
00:13:55.540 willing to pay for the rent she ought to insist that she pay the rent no correct it's just I think
00:14:02.920 I'm trying to think smarter not harder in a way where I'm going to be in the enlisted soon and
00:14:08.700 I'm going to be working a lot and I'm taking this time to finish all my classes and just to relax a
00:14:13.440 little bit and then when I make money I could help him out okay but I would understand I mean I might
00:14:22.300 even have reservations even if you guys were living together as a strong independent woman
00:14:28.580 you would probably go like 50 50 on the rent but he doesn't even live there so he lives
00:14:35.540 in northern california and then he's paying for your rent to essentially live alone
00:14:41.900 as a strong independent woman it seems a bit backwards to me oh yeah we do a lot of trips
00:14:49.500 like vacations and I pay for those. I pick up babysitting jobs that pay really well. So I do
00:14:54.280 my part in there. If he likes to go to an event, I'll pay and get our tickets. Okay. And the other
00:15:00.360 confusing factor here is you said you're going to join the Air Force. Correct. As enlisted. Like
00:15:05.180 I'm talking to recruiters. So right after I finish college and I graduate, we're making a plan for me
00:15:11.280 to join the Air Force just because. As enlisted or as officer? Enlisted. Well, you have a college
00:15:19.060 degree? Why would you not go officer route? Don't we have a military person here? You were in the
00:15:25.180 Army, right? So she's going to get her bachelor's degree. It's depending if the college has accreditation
00:15:30.420 with its own forces and also the type of degrees. They don't accept certain degrees for officer track.
00:15:37.880 For officers, yes. She might get ranks for her studies, but not necessarily officer.
00:15:43.920 Well, then, that aside, I guess another part of my confusion here is, what does your boyfriend think about you joining the Air Force, where I assume you'll be gone for off to boot camp and gone for long periods of time?
00:15:59.440 I don't know where they'll station you.
00:16:01.240 You may be deployed, possibly.
00:16:03.760 Is he on board with that?
00:16:05.880 So, at first, he was like, I don't want you to join, and we'll just work together, and you'll get your college degree, and then you go to your dream job.
00:16:13.920 You don't have to build your resume.
00:16:15.640 But I was like, well, the benefits will benefit you as well.
00:16:18.820 Because when I'm in the military, he's going to be my spouse.
00:16:23.280 And we get the other benefits for housing.
00:16:25.720 And I could bring in money as well, too.
00:16:27.800 So he could also relax.
00:16:30.460 So are you guys engaged?
00:16:34.200 Soon.
00:16:35.500 Okay, I see what you're going to do.
00:16:37.460 As soon as you join the military, you'll get married so that you can enjoy the benefits that the military gives.
00:16:42.980 uh to married uh married soldiers okay um what about you if you can introduce yourself please
00:16:49.960 hey guys i'm mulan i'm i just turned 30 i'm from la originally from new york uh i'm a model actress
00:16:57.780 and former software engineer i'm also a magazine editor uh and i guess i'm getting into i guess
00:17:04.380 entrepreneurship i started an llc recently all right and you said you were a former software
00:17:09.660 engineer? Yes. What kind of, was there something specific you were working on or? So yeah, I was
00:17:16.380 a front-end engineer for, I did this for five years. So first I worked for Allo Yoga. That was
00:17:23.520 a lot of like analytics, A-B testing, a lot of firefighting, especially during the holidays.
00:17:29.740 Then I worked four years for a London-based AI company. We worked on automating the creation
00:17:35.360 of apps it was called builder.ai they actually went bankrupt um over a year ago with the whole
00:17:41.960 did you have any like vested stock or something everything went away oh that sucks we had a
00:17:47.320 severance package though so yeah yeah um and uh now there's something interesting about you do
00:17:53.460 you want to share that yes um so i was born with a rare genetic condition called complete androgen
00:17:59.680 and sensitivity syndrome. And what that means is I am born female, but I have XY chromosomes.
00:18:07.040 And so my body never responded to the Y chromosome, so I've remained female. However, I'm actually
00:18:14.320 learning a lot more too, that technically it's a third gender and we're androgynous.
00:18:19.340 And then an interesting thing as well is men and women have both estrogen and testosterone,
00:18:24.680 but because we don't have the receptor we're insensitive we essentially convert testosterone
00:18:31.600 into estrogen and so we are pure estrogen got it okay and so perhaps just I guess to
00:18:37.640 illuminate things for the viewers um a so I don't know the politically correct term a say
00:18:46.500 I don't I'm I'm not trying to say how do I explain it don't worry no no I mean I I know
00:18:53.540 you said you're, you're not easily offended, but I'm like, I, I was going to say like a normal
00:18:58.920 woman, but I feel like that could be insensitive, which I'm not trying to be. But, um, for the
00:19:04.240 viewers, like, so typically for most women or most females, they're going to be born with XX
00:19:10.600 chromosomes and men are XY chromosome. You have complete androgen insensitivity syndrome. And so,
00:19:17.060 You have XY chromosomes, but you're female, but you have no uterus, no eggs, you're sterile, but you were born with a vagina.
00:19:30.820 Yeah, I have.
00:19:32.020 I'm not part of BLM, though.
00:19:35.420 Unfortunate as that may be.
00:19:39.940 Born with undescended testicles, but are those surgically removed?
00:19:44.680 They get surgically removed.
00:19:46.240 at birth or later on usually they want that to happen after puberty so it would produce so they're
00:19:53.740 never going to descend right they would produce the testosterone for us to have female puberty
00:19:58.800 because we would convert that into estrogen and then we would have like it runs on the mom side
00:20:04.200 of the family so like normally you would be extremely curvy like really big boobs like
00:20:08.380 extremely feminine but if you get them removed before puberty like me we need to take estrogen
00:20:14.520 to have like healthy bones and stuff. And so I got them removed when I was four.
00:20:20.780 I had appendicitis and it infected and I almost died. And yeah, so it's, it's something that I
00:20:29.220 want to raise awareness about because they say that statistically the percentage of us that have
00:20:34.960 this condition are just as common as redheads. And so a lot of, because if we never told you
00:20:41.620 guys um no one would know like sex is the same everything's the same except we can't have children
00:20:47.320 and we don't menstruate and so um berks wait no menstruation no well yeah of course because yeah
00:20:53.520 um and no acne no body odor no pubic hair so we don't respond to the hormone to testosterone or
00:21:00.780 any hormones so we can't it's impossible to get acne um it's impossible to have body odor um the
00:21:07.740 Y chromosome makes us taller. So I was actually inspired by another model. Her name is, I'm going
00:21:13.860 to butcher her name, Han Gabby Odiel. And she's like from Alexander Wang and stuff. And she came
00:21:20.600 out about this condition. And then when I moved to LA, because I'm from New York, I kind of was
00:21:26.140 like, oh, like I'm meeting all these girls like around the world with the same condition. And
00:21:30.340 like we're talking about it um I I really think that like my mind works in a very different way
00:21:37.860 because I think of the chromosomes and so I kind of see both sides of like most situations and I
00:21:44.200 believe in a lot of nuance and um so I think like politically they're kind of using this as like a
00:21:52.140 political talking point by both the right and the left and I think it's more about raising awareness
00:21:57.180 and not using it as like some sort of like prop. Gotcha. And so you would, uh, you would be
00:22:04.520 considered intersex. Um, part of the intersex umbrella. So it's like a large umbrella of like
00:22:11.500 various, like different genetic conditions that, um, prove that the gender binary is scientifically
00:22:18.680 incorrect gotcha okay um and but you um right here you're technically intersex but you don't
00:22:27.760 like the lgbtqia community and you call them out a lot and um i i don't not i don't dislike them i
00:22:37.460 just um see a lot of issues in the whole in the whole woke community um and like personally i
00:22:45.420 think that's what society is trying to veer us towards like having all of this divisiveness and
00:22:51.860 like having to have a label on everything where everyone has divine feminine and divine masculine
00:22:57.280 energy and gender although we are we have these labels but like it's more about who we are as
00:23:03.820 people it's not about just like a label and putting boxes and separating everyone out
00:23:08.800 Gotcha. But despite the XY chromosomes, um, you, you write that you're fully female. You were
00:23:16.000 assigned female at birth on the outside feet. You're female on your birth certificate. You
00:23:21.320 were born with a vagina. Uh, you, let's see. You said that because of your XY chromosome DNA level,
00:23:29.760 you have a DNA level brain. So you're saying that, uh, you got the vagina, like not a fake
00:23:36.760 vagina real real pussy not fake pussy like the other trans well you're not trans no no you're
00:23:42.400 intersex exactly but the trans people they got fake pussy um not pussy but uh you said your brain
00:23:49.580 you're like a dude sort of i mean it's like you said you think in the perspective of a man i can
00:23:55.620 think as well as a woman in both yeah so i think like i have a very unique perspective on things
00:24:00.540 and it kind of reflects back on my political past because i've always been like very in the middle
00:24:04.780 but i've called out both sides yeah and like usually in a conversation i'll like
00:24:09.360 like i don't want to be labeled like a pick me but like sometimes i understand the guy's like
00:24:14.540 perspective well you said i'll explain that to like my girlfriends and my you said you would
00:24:19.700 side with men on scenarios and so you get called to pick me um and then really quick final questions
00:24:27.120 on this and we'll come back to it but just to move things along um so if you think like a man
00:24:33.520 are you a fuck boy like do you have the sex conquest drive of a man not at all i have a
00:24:41.240 i have a fairly low body count so okay yeah and uh the final thing here which is interesting which
00:24:47.760 may ruffle the feathers of some of the women here at the table you write the perfect female
00:24:53.480 i can't this is this is interesting to me uh actually in your own words if you want to i
00:24:59.000 think you know what i'm about so i i wrote that as a reference to an article um you can look it up
00:25:04.180 the perfect female is genetically male it's actually because my mom's from you know um she
00:25:09.500 didn't know the name of this so i had to figure this all out myself in like fifth grade of like
00:25:14.340 the name of this condition and then i found that article and i found it like quite interesting
00:25:20.500 about like societal standards about how you know like men don't like pubic hair and like certain
00:25:28.860 like taller and stuff like that um and there's actually quite a um a few people that have come
00:25:35.640 out like that's like in the acting modeling industry um and there's actually conspiracy
00:25:40.880 you know how like they say in hollywood like the women are secretly men uh i haven't i have not
00:25:47.840 heard that one but um i know a lot of the women in hollywood are trying to turn their kids into
00:25:54.320 men but that or their kids into women i guess yeah um but i suppose that's a different question
00:25:59.000 but so okay you're you're saying the perfect female is genetically male uh due to your condition
00:26:05.040 because of the trade so the the no body hair uh the no pubic hair um and then that wasn't my
00:26:13.020 like statement i was like that's what you want to put i was referring to like the the article
00:26:17.300 basically okay there's an article okay what do the women here who i i assume are probably xx
00:26:23.440 what do the women think uh what the fuck um sorry there's a weird chat that came through
00:26:29.100 about feet um what do women think she she says the perfect female is genetically male
00:26:35.280 so thoughts on that i agree with that you agree i do agree with that you're wow okay i agree you
00:26:43.000 got some supporters on that one okay well i mean some of the things you listed certainly um
00:26:48.840 the brain thing the brain thing yeah the no body hair the the uh no body odor
00:26:55.480 no pubic hair sounds kind of nice so anyways um maybe uh all us men we got to find ourselves an
00:27:07.080 xy woman that's what we got it like the but what you know the intersex or whatever um all right
00:27:13.400 so that's cool we'll come back to some of that stuff later uh go ahead and introduce yourself
00:27:16.880 please i'm jewels i'm 26 years old i'm from long beach but i currently live in las vegas i'm a
00:27:23.380 mother new mother to a one-year-old and any other kids or just one okay yeah uh are you with the
00:27:29.940 dad yes okay um and college any college no not yet and just really quick going back any call
00:27:36.780 college for you yes uh bachelor's in computer engineering from binghamton university in new
00:27:42.560 york got it okay um and then really quick for you i had a couple notes here uh i some some on one of
00:27:52.740 your profiles you describe yourself as your favorite naked healer what what profile was that
00:28:02.200 you tell me but what doesn't what doesn't naked healer mean what is that i think that was from
00:28:09.760 when i started my only fans and i was also playing overwatch 2 a lot and so oh one hand in hand you
00:28:17.820 were a healer in the game yeah in fortnight um yeah overwatch but yeah yeah same difference
00:28:23.420 um and then so you used to do of or you still do because i i saw like you had an account or
00:28:30.380 something yeah i still kind of do it's more so for fun than it is for money for me because i do
00:28:36.660 recognize myself as like a complete voyeur so i just post pictures of myself online you said
00:28:43.360 voyeur is that correct okay um you describe yourself as a dream babe cloud emoji uh mother
00:28:51.420 succubus uh ebony goddess and master shapeshifter so let's dive into those what is a mother succubus
00:29:01.680 master of them all in sex
00:29:03.620 master of them all
00:29:05.800 master of them all
00:29:07.220 by all you mean men
00:29:10.680 men and women
00:29:11.880 mother succubus
00:29:13.400 a succubus
00:29:14.480 a demonic entity that really likes
00:29:17.480 sex
00:29:18.560 sucks the soul of men
00:29:20.820 they have those
00:29:22.760 a mythical female demon from European folklore
00:29:25.380 that appears in people's dreams to
00:29:27.180 seduce humans usually men
00:29:29.340 and feed on their
00:29:31.420 life energy what is the male version of that it's like a homunculus or wait no that's something
00:29:37.180 else it's a incubus incubus incubus is the male version and it's also a semi-decent band
00:29:44.980 that gains popularity in the 90s and 2000s um whatever happened to those guys so okay you're
00:29:52.460 a succubus is that a good thing is that i don't know if that's a good thing is that a good thing
00:29:57.140 um for some people it is for some people so you're demonic i wouldn't say demonic
00:30:02.480 per se for me but other people would definitely see it that way uh ebony goddess so like black
00:30:09.660 goddess yeah uh so what what is a goddess and in what way are you that to me um a goddess is
00:30:19.220 a woman who really embraces their femininity and loves to exude it okay and that's what I
00:30:26.540 love to do best honestly um just uh I used to be really in my head about who I was as a person
00:30:36.440 and so for a moment I thought okay well I'll just be um I'll try and be more male uh I'll try and
00:30:43.460 be a little less male and it just didn't work out for me uh i gotcha really depressed at the time
00:30:50.020 so i said you know what i'm just gonna embrace my my own being final one master shapeshifter
00:30:55.780 what does that mean i do my hair a lot of different ways and i come around with a lot
00:31:00.600 of different appearances so okay i'll look different next next month guaranteed you're
00:31:07.160 overselling i think you're overselling maybe the dream babe mother succubus ebony goddess master
00:31:14.120 shapeshifter i just threw it all in there it's like very i don't know the master shapeshifter
00:31:20.920 how do you know you're not like a amateur shapeshifter you're a master shapeshifter you
00:31:27.000 know like how there's journeymen there's journeymen there's artisans are you an artisan
00:31:33.180 shapeshifter no master shapeshifter definitely definitely like i said go to school to get like
00:31:38.740 a certification for that or how does that work no no luckily enough i just figured out that i can do
00:31:44.340 a lot of different styles with my own appearance and really rock them as well so okay i get a lot
00:31:51.340 got it uh go ahead and introduce yourself please sabre 53 years old all right uh where are you
00:31:59.120 from? I live in Riverside, originally from Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico, okay. Yes, I have an MBA on
00:32:06.440 business administration with international marketing, U.S. Army veteran, combat medic,
00:32:11.960 and after the Army, I worked for 23 years in the corporate American software and hardware
00:32:17.380 internationally, and for the past three and a half years, I'm an entrepreneur, so I have my
00:32:25.060 own streaming platform, Latin Diva TV. I'm the editor-in-chief for my Cook de la Fe magazine.
00:32:30.840 I'm dedicated on fashion entertainment for emerging talent. Mulan is in my agency. I have
00:32:36.580 34 models in my agency and actors. I'm also 2025 best fashion designer of the year in LA Fashion
00:32:43.660 week. Oh, very, very nice. Very nice. Any college? Yes, MBA. MBA? American Intercontinental University.
00:32:56.500 Was that in Puerto Rico? No, here in Florida, yes. Gotcha. And you joined the military, you were in
00:33:04.280 the U.S. 1998, yes, U.S. Army. And how long were you in for? Six years. Six years. And you went in as
00:33:10.460 enlisted, is that correct? Enlisted, correct. As a combat medic? Yes. Okay. Same thing, I have
00:33:15.440 degrees, but the university was not recognized by the Department of Defense, so I didn't even get
00:33:21.140 a rank. Wait, 98 to 2003? 2004. Okay, so, well, okay, this is... Yes. The middle... Okay, so 9-11
00:33:31.220 happened. You're in the middle of your military career, so did you end up getting deployed
00:33:39.240 anywhere? Yes, as a support. Can you list the places that you've, I guess, been sent to or
00:33:47.280 deployed to? Yes and no. Oh, it's top secret? Yes. As a combat medic, I was trained. What is
00:33:58.780 called QBRN is treating patients affected by chemical, biological, radioactive, and nuclear
00:34:04.360 weapons okay so i was attached to the special forces unit to treat that kind of patient and
00:34:10.420 that's as far as i can okay well um maybe you can answer this were you were you in the middle east
00:34:16.540 um no not specifically
00:34:19.280 like germany or something or where korea where they send you but okay um
00:34:27.200 and uh well that's cool uh okay what about you hi i'm cc i'm originally from mississippi
00:34:34.300 I live in Georgia.
00:34:36.920 I'm a mom of four little boys, and I liquidate furniture for 11.
00:34:41.780 Age?
00:34:42.660 Oh, I'm 52.
00:34:44.180 Any college?
00:34:45.420 Yes.
00:34:45.840 I have a couple of degrees from junior colleges.
00:34:51.360 I have a lot of broken college because I had a lot of babies.
00:34:54.960 A lot of babies?
00:34:55.820 Yes.
00:34:56.660 How many kids?
00:34:57.280 I had four babies.
00:34:58.260 Four babies.
00:34:59.180 Yes.
00:35:00.360 And you kind of do some fun online stuff.
00:35:03.500 But just for clarification, you do not do OnlyFans?
00:35:06.600 I do not do OnlyFans.
00:35:07.460 But what do they call you online?
00:35:09.720 What's your moniker?
00:35:10.820 Oh, I'm a sexy granny.
00:35:13.900 You're a sexy grandma.
00:35:15.360 Yes.
00:35:15.860 That's cute.
00:35:16.520 Okay.
00:35:17.040 When I first started posting, the biggest thing they talked about was my age.
00:35:21.020 And I was like, I buried.
00:35:23.400 Vitaly donated $99.
00:35:25.660 Okay.
00:35:26.300 Hit it from the N to the I to the G to the G to the E to the R.
00:35:31.780 Wow.
00:35:32.220 um all right we have a tts uh troll uh nice very cool thank you for that uh we're gonna just take
00:35:43.500 that off uh stream and uh let me uh hold on one sec let me uh okay and so i'm i'm curious can you
00:35:51.640 i don't know if you can like the the little strap no what don't i'm not asking you to undress uh you
00:35:56.640 have a sternum tattoo could you just like lift up the no no don't no i don't know just like there's
00:36:01.740 little dangly thing i'm just asking you to just lift that teeny little dangly this thing yeah you
00:36:06.840 have a sternum so you're 52 normally i'll see like these sort of chandelier sternum tattoo
00:36:12.820 uh tattoos on typically younger women uh when did you get that i got that in 2021 after my son died
00:36:21.900 tragically uh in 2021 yes okay uh well sorry to hear about your son um
00:36:30.240 so did you not have any tattoos prior to that or i had tattoos prior to that i had two tattoos
00:36:39.580 already they were on my hips um after he died i did the sternum the abdomen my thigh and my arm
00:36:48.060 gotcha okay uh and then no um i i might have missed this college did you i i have a lot of
00:36:57.160 like broken college i have a couple of degrees but nothing in what um it's an associate of uh
00:37:05.160 oh my gosh i have trouble hearing brian okay i'm not lying i just don't remember yeah that's fine
00:37:12.400 next my name is jenny i'm 36 years old um i have two teen two teenage daughters
00:37:19.600 and i'm in a beauty and wellness industry where are you from um in the inland empire
00:37:26.560 Okay. Any college?
00:37:28.220 I did go to trade school for MA.
00:37:30.920 Okay. What about you?
00:37:32.680 My name is Leslie. I'm 26 years old, and I'm from L.A., specifically the 626 area.
00:37:40.680 I have an associate's degree, and I did some college.
00:37:44.780 And what do you do for work?
00:37:46.920 I'm a court clerk.
00:37:49.460 Court clerk.
00:37:50.720 Correct.
00:37:51.080 Okay. Ooh, all right. Okay. What about you?
00:37:54.340 hey i'm violet i'm 22 i'm from california i actually have a bachelor's degree in psychology
00:38:01.820 and i graduated summa cum laude and i'm an aspiring musician and my name is violet soul on
00:38:08.360 spotify wait tilt your uh tilt your hat down a little bit my five head is showing maybe uh it's
00:38:15.080 covering your eyes just up a bit down a bit perfect that's good that's good all right maybe
00:38:20.960 Guys, Maddie 2.0, we're on the lookout for another helmet girl.
00:38:27.080 We need a new helmet girl, so maybe she's going to take the role.
00:38:30.540 Okay, well, that's everyone's introductions.
00:38:33.140 We're going to go around the table once more, and once we get through relationship status,
00:38:37.820 we're going to dive into the Lindsay Clancy stuff.
00:38:40.540 This is going to be a pretty, I want to say a deep dive.
00:38:45.220 Sometimes some of our reacts are, you know, pretty short, but we are going to do a pretty, I think, dedicated and thorough conversation about Lindsay Clancy.
00:38:54.560 So, relationship status, please.
00:38:58.060 I'm single.
00:38:59.280 For how long?
00:39:00.440 For the past two years.
00:39:02.560 All right. What about you?
00:39:03.900 I'm married, and we've been together for like four years.
00:39:07.380 Okay. You?
00:39:08.340 I've been, I'm dating my boyfriend for a year and a half.
00:39:12.060 year and a half okay what about you um i've been talking to someone it's been still early but it's
00:39:19.300 been like three months oh okay talking stage three months i guess you could say dating dating
00:39:26.220 or not boyfriend girlfriend yes but like is it long is it long distance or no no okay um
00:39:34.340 um and uh longest relationship uh two years two years okay and three month talking stage
00:39:46.760 not long distance okay it's not talking stage i'm seeing someone but i consider three months like
00:39:53.580 kind of new you know okay uh so it's exclusive yes okay got it what about you um i've been with
00:40:01.800 my partner for four and a half years. Okay. It's a male, I'm assuming? Yeah. Okay. And
00:40:10.380 you have one kid? Okay. What about you? Divorced since 1998. Yeah. So that's like 28 years?
00:40:20.860 28 years, yes. Have you kids? I have one son. He's 31. From the marriage? From the marriage,
00:40:30.360 Yes.
00:40:31.920 Have you been married again?
00:40:36.360 No, I was engaged twice after divorce.
00:40:39.240 Okay, gotcha.
00:40:40.320 And are you currently seeing anybody?
00:40:43.420 No, not at the moment.
00:40:44.540 Not at the moment.
00:40:45.420 And let's see.
00:40:48.460 Quick question on the divorce.
00:40:51.380 How long were you guys together?
00:40:52.840 We were married for four years.
00:40:55.240 And right after I got divorced, I joined the army and left Puerto Rico for the big land.
00:40:59.700 Okay. Did he pay you alimony?
00:41:05.460 That was the big battle, actually, because he didn't want to pay child support alimony. No.
00:41:12.720 He didn't want to pay child support, so it was a lot of back and forth.
00:41:16.220 At the end of the day, I realized it wasn't worth it going to court so often for $250, which was, it wouldn't help me with my son.
00:41:24.520 I was making more money than that with the army.
00:41:26.800 So I just gave up child support to have a peace of mind
00:41:30.800 because there was a time that he kidnapped my son for 30 days,
00:41:33.760 and it was terrible.
00:41:35.280 So I decided that the money was not worth it
00:41:37.600 to sacrifice the mental health of my son
00:41:40.060 for an insignificant amount of child support.
00:41:45.120 Gotcha.
00:41:45.820 Okay, so he ended up not paying child support.
00:41:48.360 Exactly.
00:41:49.040 Okay.
00:41:50.500 All right.
00:41:51.340 What about you?
00:41:52.660 I'm single.
00:41:54.340 Ever married?
00:41:55.480 I was married for 16 years.
00:41:57.540 16 years.
00:42:00.020 Was that your longest relationship?
00:42:02.160 Yes.
00:42:03.020 How long were you together before you were married?
00:42:05.280 Just a couple of months.
00:42:06.340 I got knocked up.
00:42:07.120 And he is the 16-year marriage?
00:42:09.900 He's the father of your four kids?
00:42:11.840 Yes.
00:42:12.260 No kids from other men?
00:42:13.600 No.
00:42:13.780 Okay.
00:42:15.140 How long have you been single for?
00:42:17.160 Since 2019.
00:42:18.600 2019.
00:42:19.340 So you've been single for...
00:42:21.120 uh six seven years uh and you've also been celibate for a period of time is that correct
00:42:27.580 now you wrote you've been practicing celibacy yes which
00:42:32.020 can be used in a sort of vague way to imply celibacy but you can be practicing something
00:42:40.180 and not be particularly good at it so just for purposes of clarity you've not had sex with a man
00:42:46.940 sense? So I had a medical injury when they gave me all that testosterone and I did dally a little
00:42:55.060 bit a few months ago. You dilly-dallied. I'm back on the straight and narrow now. You, okay, you
00:43:00.700 relapsed on dick. You had a dick relapse. It was an emergency. It was an emergency. She,
00:43:07.480 she needed a fucking hit. Um, okay. So you, um, a couple months ago, you, you dallied or dillied?
00:43:16.940 A little of both.
00:43:18.160 A little dilly, a little dally.
00:43:19.680 Yes.
00:43:20.320 You, was it just one guy or were there a few multiple?
00:43:24.160 It's just one person.
00:43:25.260 One guy.
00:43:26.260 And was it a one-time thing or you saw him for a little bit?
00:43:29.440 I know him from back in the day.
00:43:32.240 Back in the day.
00:43:33.100 So.
00:43:33.620 Back, how far back in the day?
00:43:35.120 Ten years ago.
00:43:36.420 Ten years ago.
00:43:37.040 Yeah.
00:43:37.820 Okay.
00:43:40.520 And so, okay.
00:43:43.100 Prior to him, though, how long had you been celibate?
00:43:45.980 2019.
00:43:46.940 So, six years.
00:43:49.260 Yes.
00:43:49.520 You broke your streak.
00:43:51.400 I broke it.
00:43:52.120 You fucked up.
00:43:53.020 You broke your streak.
00:43:53.880 Okay.
00:43:56.440 Well, I guess since I asked you, I guess really quick, I just want to ask everyone.
00:44:01.240 Last time you had carnal knowledge.
00:44:04.820 Like a month ago?
00:44:07.300 A month ago.
00:44:08.000 Like a week ago.
00:44:10.100 Sex.
00:44:11.860 Three days ago.
00:44:12.880 Three days.
00:44:13.520 A week ago.
00:44:14.680 Two days ago.
00:44:15.940 What was the question?
00:44:16.940 Last time you had carnal knowledge.
00:44:19.100 Oh, Lord.
00:44:20.260 It's been a long time.
00:44:22.700 How long?
00:44:23.700 Two years ago.
00:44:24.400 Two years ago.
00:44:25.020 Okay.
00:44:25.360 It's been three months.
00:44:26.060 A couple months, but before that, six years.
00:44:29.080 Yes.
00:44:29.740 Nothing.
00:44:30.400 Okay.
00:44:31.000 So here, let's go into your relationship status for you.
00:44:33.980 I am talking to somebody for, it's been 10, 11 months now.
00:44:39.860 So your boyfriend or no?
00:44:42.280 I could say so, yeah.
00:44:44.020 You could say so.
00:44:45.300 I mean.
00:44:45.960 What would he?
00:44:46.440 this is like a mitch headberg joke um i don't have a girlfriend but i know someone who would
00:44:52.100 be mad if she heard me say that exclusive to him but you're exclusive to him is he exclusive to you
00:44:56.940 i don't know okay well that's not your boyfriend then but um i think anyway uh but you've been
00:45:02.840 seeing him for for 10 11 months and before that um i was married closer to the mic please i was
00:45:10.540 married for 10 years that was my longest relationship married for 10 yeah how long
00:45:14.560 were you with him before marriage i'll say like a year uh do you have any kids yeah two daughters
00:45:21.140 two from the marriage yeah yeah not different fathers no no okay same father um wait and so
00:45:28.220 hold on uh you've been seeing a guy when did this 10-year marriage end it ended 2017
00:45:36.300 wait hold on whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on the math is not mathing you're 26 no I'm 36 I'm 26
00:45:46.400 wait what the fuck okay okay the math is math okay I wrote that down wrong 36 36 okay um
00:45:58.640 All right, so you've been seeing a guy for 11 months, but it's, I don't know, he's not
00:46:06.460 your boyfriend, I guess.
00:46:08.840 Hold on.
00:46:11.320 Who initiated the divorce?
00:46:13.840 I did.
00:46:15.240 Why?
00:46:16.620 He got into drugs, and he got very toxic.
00:46:20.560 Okay.
00:46:21.340 Now, did he or does he pay you alimony?
00:46:26.720 No.
00:46:28.640 Did you pay him alimony?
00:46:30.320 No.
00:46:31.100 Child support?
00:46:31.940 No, nothing.
00:46:32.880 Nothing?
00:46:33.480 I don't get nothing.
00:46:36.160 Nothing?
00:46:37.260 Okay, but you were legally divorced.
00:46:40.060 Yes.
00:46:40.820 The thing is that he's technically an immigrant.
00:46:45.660 Is he in prison?
00:46:47.160 He got deported.
00:46:49.480 Where is he from?
00:46:50.960 From Honduras.
00:46:52.120 Honduras?
00:46:52.920 Yeah.
00:46:53.980 So how long has he been back in Honduras?
00:46:56.020 uh honestly all all i know from him right now that he's in mexico right now but i have not
00:47:02.980 spoken to him or talked to him ever since like i could say like 2018 so i don't know his where
00:47:09.480 about the last thing i heard he was in mexico when's the last time he's seen his kids 2018
00:47:14.680 okay um no alimony no child support going back to you really quick uh you were married for 16 years
00:47:24.480 who initiated the divorce. I did. Why? I make every man that likes me put their hands on me,
00:47:34.780 and I just got tired of it. Wait, sorry. Could you say every man who what? Every man I've ever
00:47:39.820 dated. I have a lot of toxic male energy, and I will tell you about yourself, and some men can't
00:47:46.420 control themselves. You have toxic male energy? I do. I do. What is that? You're toxic? I'm an
00:47:53.900 asshole you're an you're an asshole i am an asshole in what how are you an asshole just in
00:48:00.100 that you know i guess i'm kind of selfish is really what it is i want to do what i want to do
00:48:05.520 and i don't want people telling me not to do it and did you cheat on him i've never cheated you've
00:48:10.900 never cheated okay but every guy or or almost uh someone purchased big labia matter premium hoodie
00:48:20.240 for $59.99.
00:48:23.040 Thank you.
00:48:24.020 I don't know why that's triggering, though.
00:48:26.120 That should not be...
00:48:27.140 Hold on, let me see what's going on with that.
00:48:31.580 That's weird.
00:48:32.400 Okay, well, thank you for the hoodie, I guess.
00:48:35.380 That's weird.
00:48:36.280 I don't know why...
00:48:37.380 Okay, well, fucking stream labs.
00:48:40.820 Almost every guy you've dated
00:48:42.100 has put hands on you.
00:48:44.840 Yes.
00:48:45.200 In violent.
00:48:45.800 Where do you live again?
00:48:46.520 Where are you from?
00:48:47.000 Oh, I'm from the deep south,
00:48:48.060 But North Carolina is where I received most of the abuse.
00:48:52.420 North Carolina.
00:48:53.580 Okay.
00:48:55.520 Just curious, what kind of types of men do you date?
00:48:59.660 A lot of men don't come up to me.
00:49:01.640 You know what I mean?
00:49:02.560 I don't know what the problem is.
00:49:04.220 Maybe it's that I am an asshole and they just don't speak to me, I guess.
00:49:08.780 So the ones that do are the ones that have to talk you into being with them.
00:49:12.220 They're fat or they're ugly or they don't have a job, whatever it is.
00:49:15.240 And then once you realize that you're settling and that they made everything up.
00:49:20.840 White guys, black guys, Latinos.
00:49:22.380 Oh, they're white.
00:49:23.020 White guys, okay.
00:49:23.700 I mean, I'm sure black and Latinos could do it too, though.
00:49:27.060 They just haven't done it to me yet.
00:49:29.160 Gotcha, okay.
00:49:31.020 Okay, so every white guy you've dated, put hands on you.
00:49:36.060 now look I don't think violence
00:49:44.160 is ever you should never put hands
00:49:46.260 on anybody but the pattern
00:49:47.940 is what's interesting to me
00:49:49.720 which would
00:49:50.840 do you ever initiate the violence
00:49:53.240 no
00:49:54.400 I run my mouth
00:49:58.040 Brian
00:49:58.580 okay alright
00:50:00.860 you're a mouth runner
00:50:03.100 I'll take a shit in your soul
00:50:04.700 and that makes you want to hit me.
00:50:07.160 Wait, are you being serious right now?
00:50:08.980 I'm being serious.
00:50:09.860 Like, there are people that will tell me.
00:50:11.020 Do you have BPD?
00:50:12.300 No, I don't.
00:50:12.920 Bipolar?
00:50:13.480 I'm just.
00:50:14.120 NPD?
00:50:14.900 Mm-mm.
00:50:15.540 ASPD?
00:50:16.660 I don't know about that.
00:50:17.880 Antisocial personality disorder?
00:50:19.420 No, no, no.
00:50:19.840 Any cluster B personality disorder?
00:50:23.040 I don't think so.
00:50:23.900 I think what happens is that I think that someone that tells me I love you means that,
00:50:29.720 and love means protection to me.
00:50:31.680 And when someone begins to kind of not treat you the way that any woman should be treated, I didn't handle it well.
00:50:42.360 I'm immature, but that is why I'm single.
00:50:44.740 But I do have a lot of insight to help other people who might want to date keeping themselves safe.
00:50:51.900 Yeah.
00:50:52.420 Yeah. Well, again, you should never, you know, even if someone says extremely hurtful things or is getting you worked up, you should never put your hands on them.
00:51:04.140 My eyebrow raise here, though, is that you said every man you've been with has been violent towards you.
00:51:12.000 I mean, you certainly acknowledge that you said you take a shit in their heart.
00:51:16.680 Now, look, I think that there can be a tendency sometimes to do you know if these men have been violent in their other relationships?
00:51:28.500 Yes.
00:51:29.060 The problem is that I don't know the men very well at all before they've moved into my home or I've moved into theirs.
00:51:36.580 Of all the men you've dated who've been violent with you, how many of them were drug abusers?
00:51:43.780 None.
00:51:44.260 Any of them homeless or history of homelessness?
00:51:45.980 You know, they're all well-educated people.
00:51:49.540 The worst was the cop, though.
00:51:51.880 Hey, Sean.
00:51:54.040 Well, I find myself in a bit of a pickle because on one hand, again, I never think you should ever put your hands on somebody, no matter how vicious they are with their tongue.
00:52:03.060 uh but it seems like even you are to some degree self-aware that it sounds like again i'm not
00:52:11.360 justifying it nobody you should walk away if somebody is that verbally abusive i'm under the
00:52:18.060 impression here that you are uh egregiously verbally verbally abusive to these men is that
00:52:24.240 correct no you said you take a shit in their heart i said i said i take a shit in their soul
00:52:29.720 because again and look uh well okay about the same thing again i'm not trying i'm it's never
00:52:36.760 okay to lay your hands on somebody but there are some women who through their tongue will be so
00:52:44.940 infuriating to a man and so toxic and so verbally abusive that out of sheer frustration these men
00:52:52.400 do something wrong by hitting you but there you seem self-aware of this pattern and you seem to
00:52:58.960 be I don't know cognizant that you are you said you're an asshole you said you're a bad person
00:53:04.900 so I'm not a bad person I'm an asshole but I'm an asshole in the same way somebody that pulls
00:53:10.480 into a parking space that doesn't pull all the way up takes up two spaces on accident I'm not
00:53:16.500 intentionally ever wanting to hurt anyone I think that the part that I don't describe very well is
00:53:23.520 that by the time I have, by the time you are getting me to respond to violence, the only
00:53:35.160 thing I have against a man are my words. I can't physically, if I'm being hit, there's
00:53:41.880 nothing I can do to stop that. You're going to hit me until you stop hitting me. However,
00:53:45.980 in that situation me lashing out at you is the only thing i have like i can't well of course
00:53:53.940 it's certainly i mean if if you've just been hit uh i wouldn't fault a woman for responding
00:54:01.940 verbally uh harshly to that i guess i don't know i'm not really getting i feel like i'm not getting
00:54:08.720 a straight answer on the scope of the way that you treat these men or whatever again i'm not
00:54:14.420 saying it's deserved i'm not saying it's justified it never is but there there certainly can be
00:54:21.780 dynamics where someone can be a habitual button pusher a habitual line stepper line crosser
00:54:28.660 and just really be an instigator um i don't know if that's the case for you anyways i'm going to
00:54:35.600 move it on um uh was no alimony is that correct i'm trying to recall where we left off no no
00:54:43.300 alimony or child support uh okay going to you relationship status i'm single for how long
00:54:51.540 uh like about nine months eight months longest relationship um that would be my high school
00:54:58.640 relationship it was like maybe three years three years okay the most recent relationship how long
00:55:03.180 was that uh it was a little over a year okay um any kids no okay no guys in the picture currently
00:55:12.880 I mean, I casually date, like, on dating apps, but I'm not, like, committed to anybody or, like,
00:55:18.920 actively, like, seeing somebody right now. Okay. What about you? I'm married. For how long? Like,
00:55:27.840 a month. How long with him? Over three years. Three years. Okay. Rock and roll. That's everyone's
00:55:34.180 relationship status. Let's just jump right into the Lindsey Clancy stuff. All right. So,
00:55:40.020 before we
00:55:41.780 there's a few different things we're going to
00:55:44.120 pull up and react to
00:55:45.480 I do want to ask you guys
00:55:48.040 who here, just by show of hands
00:55:50.260 is familiar
00:55:51.760 with Lindsay Clancy
00:55:54.220 who's familiar
00:55:55.140 show of hands, raise them high please
00:55:57.780 one, two, three
00:56:00.500 only three of you
00:56:02.460 I have a question
00:56:04.160 okay, what's up
00:56:05.760 wait, you're way too far from the mic
00:56:08.000 please get closer
00:56:08.800 sorry um i just wanted to clarify if that was the case um of the lady that had psychosis
00:56:15.040 i uh that's what i suppose they're alleging that she had psychosis postpartum depression
00:56:21.480 um some other things but uh yes that is the case so okay it was sorry it was you
00:56:27.720 you i think i was thinking about another lindsey honestly okay it's the viral one if you're on
00:56:34.700 TikTok it's been going viral um so essentially the story here um oh I don't have this pulled
00:56:39.980 up Tiffany can you pull up a let's just go to Google search Lindsay Clancy and go ahead and
00:56:45.200 pull up the Wikipedia article that'll give some context because we do have a lot of a panel here
00:56:49.900 that a lot of them just aren't familiar so we're going to get everyone caught up to speed kind of
00:56:53.860 on exactly what what happened but before we kind of dive into that of the people that already know
00:56:58.880 about it. Can you just, I guess, give us your take on it? Okay, so for Lindsay, allegedly she has
00:57:06.680 psychosis and postpartum depression, as he was saying, so she allegedly strangled her. Wait,
00:57:12.660 wait, so I'm not asking for an explanation. We're going to get into that. I'm asking you what your
00:57:18.340 take on the case is. So my take is that she was drugged and she didn't do it, and her ex-husband
00:57:26.560 is behind it oh my god okay okay um with evidence you have evidence so they're going back to the
00:57:36.580 blood splatter as i was talking about so there was perfectly circled blood splatter and where
00:57:42.200 the nightstand desk has been moved on top of it how would a perfectly drops of blood fall
00:57:48.320 if there's a nightstand there so usually like it's where she had her like so you've reviewed
00:57:55.340 just to be clear the the blood splatter evidence is public is currently public it is and
00:58:02.080 and so did the defense during the trial are you following the trial Mr. Reddington is looking
00:58:10.100 into it again because who's that her lawyers her lawyer her lawyer okay so you're you're saying
00:58:18.340 that there's blood spatter evidence that points to what points to it doesn't match what they are
00:58:25.680 alleging alleging of her doing so we're so upstairs there's like these perfect blood
00:58:32.220 slatters but there's a nightstand how could that blood spatter get under the nightstand it couldn't
00:58:37.040 so they're thinking that the table was moved and so was the bed because she couldn't have thrown
00:58:41.400 herself outside a window if she had cut her throat and her wrist how could somebody throw
00:58:46.560 themselves outside of a window if they had slashed their wrists and their throat and her body
00:58:51.360 temperature on her apple watch isn't matching the events that they said occurred so there's more
00:58:56.380 evidence that i have coming into the court wait wait hold on so um you think that in order to open
00:59:04.140 a window and exit a window so are you alleging she was not thrown like uh she was not she didn't fall
00:59:12.080 out of the window or was thrown out someone else threw her so the husband threw her out of the
00:59:17.960 window because because she you said she slit her throat slit her wrist and somebody is incapable
00:59:25.220 of throwing themselves jumping out of window because her body there so they're doing the
00:59:30.620 math with her apple watch as well and his whereabouts he lied about his whereabouts which
00:59:35.100 footage came out about that that's completely ridiculous he didn't lie about his whereabouts
00:59:38.980 Hold on, but before we dive into all the evidence stuff, of the other women here who are familiar with the case, I believe it was, who else raised their hand?
00:59:48.680 Okay, where do you land on the Lindsay Clancy case?
00:59:55.680 It's hard because I'm a mom.
00:59:57.540 I've never suffered with a postpartum depression.
00:59:59.780 I've never wanted to kill my children.
01:00:01.180 but watching it is is really terrifying because everything that gets talked about after you've
01:00:10.080 done it doesn't really give clear context into what was leading up to it i guess okay here let
01:00:17.860 me perhaps break it do you support lindsey clancy i do not okay do you think she's innocent
01:00:23.240 i do not think she's innocent uh do you think the husband killed the do you think lindsey
01:00:28.860 can't sleep lindsey clancy was framed and the husband or someone else actually murdered the
01:00:33.940 children i don't think that do you think lindsey clancy murdered the children i think that okay
01:00:38.340 um who you were familiar with it who was anybody here familiar with it i saw three hands up
01:00:43.520 okay uh what's your stance i guess on it um like i wouldn't be that surprised if she like
01:00:51.060 had some sort of like mental episode and went insane and killed me so i believe it okay do
01:00:57.400 you support lindsey clancy no okay do you support lindsey clancy i support the truth
01:01:03.320 well you believe that the truth is i believe she was framed it wasn't her who killed the children
01:01:09.740 it was the husband i believe he's also guilty until proven innocent so he's not wait wait repeat
01:01:18.420 that i believe he's also guilty until proven innocent because they're trying to move a trial
01:01:22.940 onto him as well you believe he's guilty until proven innocent yes that's what we say in court
01:01:31.640 that's how it is opposite innocent until well like with him like recently what we've been saying no
01:01:39.400 that is the usual what they say but we were talking about it with some of my criminology
01:01:43.880 criminology class how much money how much cash do you have on you right now do you have any cash
01:01:49.560 No, I don't have any cash.
01:01:51.480 Do you have, like, 500 bucks in, like, a bank account or something?
01:01:54.580 Yes.
01:01:55.200 Okay.
01:01:55.760 Let's do a wager.
01:01:56.900 So do you think, like, you said it's what they say.
01:02:00.040 So you said guilty until proven innocent.
01:02:02.660 Is it that or innocent until proven guilty?
01:02:05.060 No, it's innocent until proven that.
01:02:07.420 It's just I was saying he's guilty right now for him.
01:02:11.340 I'm only saying that right now because for the evidence that came out, that's all.
01:02:16.340 Wait, hold on.
01:02:16.980 You said, so, okay, can you clarify?
01:02:19.320 In a court of law, do you...
01:02:22.140 It's innocent until proven guilty, but I was saying that for his case,
01:02:26.440 with the evidence that came out, he looks really guilty.
01:02:31.840 So has he been proven guilty?
01:02:34.160 No.
01:02:34.740 So how could it possibly be guilty until proven innocent?
01:02:39.380 It's just with the photos and everything, there's more data that's been coming through.
01:02:45.140 from what it looks like he's been keeping things when he shouldn't have if he's if he's innocent
01:02:50.800 who because who goes on a costa rica trip after his wife killed his kids wait when's the last
01:02:56.900 time you went on a trip i don't go on a trip when if someone who i cared about died 10 days after
01:03:01.720 how would that be look you have to understand just because what you consider to be odd behavior this
01:03:08.920 wouldn't be evidence that this person has committed a crime he went with his current wife when they
01:03:14.440 went together with a woman how soon after 16 days after the murders i would have to fact check if
01:03:21.740 like the actual timeline of when this happened even that being the case can you one i don't know
01:03:28.320 if this was pre-planned or something new or he wanted to get away i can certainly see the actually
01:03:33.440 the contrary argument is if you've just undergone like a highly traumatic incident um you maybe you
01:03:41.380 just wanted you want to leave you want to get away you want to like get your mind off you don't want
01:03:46.800 to be living in the house where like your fucking bitch ex-wife strangled your children to death like
01:03:52.480 i'd probably want to minimum leave my house i don't want to sleep in the house like that would
01:03:57.140 be terrifying i understand so the idea that just because he went on a and again i'm not sure if
01:04:03.120 that's the exact timeline you have some information i don't have even even granting it that wouldn't
01:04:08.840 be evidence that he's killed the children because he went on a vacation, which may or
01:04:12.660 may not have been preplanned.
01:04:13.660 I'm saying his lack of remorse for the situation.
01:04:15.680 That's really important.
01:04:16.800 What evidence do you have that there's lack of remorse?
01:04:18.780 Okay, so in court, they literally talk about how he left 16 days after the murder with
01:04:22.540 the woman that he's married to right now.
01:04:24.160 How does that establish that he murdered anybody?
01:04:27.080 Let me ask you a question.
01:04:28.060 Wait, okay, here, let's try this out.
01:04:29.880 So let's assume that you didn't commit a crime, and then 16 days later, you go on a vacation.
01:04:37.040 with a mistress does that establish that you committed the crime no it just looks lack of
01:04:43.680 remorse and that's suspicious enough suspicious for the judge how hold on first off what how does
01:04:49.840 that establish lack of remorse that is lack of remorse i can't go to a vacation if my husband
01:04:55.040 killed my kids okay well some women it would never occur to some women to like have a fucking
01:05:00.700 pixie cut either but it occurred to you like most women have long hair so i don't understand
01:05:05.980 the logic here just because something wouldn't occur to you to do doesn't mean that it's like
01:05:10.080 somehow pointing to towards or evidence that he's guilty well why are we just blaming the woman when
01:05:16.020 she was drugged whoa hold on what evidence that her fingerprints weren't on the murder weapon
01:05:20.840 either what was the murder weapon it was this knife upstairs on the nightstand that was moved
01:05:25.240 the murder weapon was a knife you clearly well like the weapon she not the not the not the ropes
01:05:32.880 I'm talking about the knife she used that technically she was supposed to die.
01:05:36.320 So they're calling a murder weapon because it is a weapon that was used to cut herself.
01:05:40.300 We're going to have to.
01:05:41.000 I'm sorry, Tiffany, you need to pull up chat GPT because we have to fact check some of these claims.
01:05:45.480 So that she self-harmed.
01:05:50.340 I I is there actually like did they take DNA from the knife?
01:05:54.100 Yeah, they did.
01:05:54.820 And then they were talking about how now did she did she wear gloves?
01:05:58.820 No, she didn't wear gloves.
01:06:00.400 Okay, so because even if there's a lacking of a DNA on an item,
01:06:05.040 doesn't like disprove the fact that somebody used the item.
01:06:07.960 Just his was on it more than hers.
01:06:10.120 Was it a knife that was used in the household that he also resided in?
01:06:13.860 No, that was not the knife.
01:06:15.360 I'm sorry, if you live in a house and you use a kitchen knife
01:06:20.440 and he cooked a steak the night before, there's going to be his DNA.
01:06:25.560 Because I don't want to say anything false, so I don't remember everything exactly,
01:06:28.480 but that's just from so far what I remember reading with all the notes that comes out from
01:06:33.280 court and everything. But they also studied the cuts. Since she was a nurse, if you wanted to
01:06:38.000 kill yourself, you would know where to cut. So that's what they're questioning as well. The
01:06:41.720 person who did that had no idea of the anatomy. Hold on. What kind of nurse is she?
01:06:47.500 She's a, she was a, it's like she worked in pediatrics for pregnant. So babies.
01:06:53.520 Yeah. How many babies are committing suicide by slitting their wrists? So the idea that every,
01:06:58.040 wait hold on the idea that every single nurse would know like the appropriate mechanism like
01:07:02.860 the most effective way to slit your wrist to commit suicide i would i would reject that the
01:07:06.880 idea just like i would understand maybe like an emergency nurse like who sees suicides and like
01:07:12.100 maybe but i would even argue even then you could have a nurse who who does work in the emergency
01:07:17.400 room and i don't believe it could it would be the case that all nurses would definitively know that
01:07:22.640 the the most effective way to commit suicide by cutting your wrist is to do it like this way as
01:07:27.540 opposed to this way um whether she knew or not seems kind of irrelevant no it's just she helped
01:07:33.300 deliver babies so they they know how to cut they know how to cut she was it's okay so is it impossible
01:07:39.220 you have to learn that because before becoming a nurse you have to learn a lot of stuff you you
01:07:43.320 have to wait if you if you have to learn in what part of nursing school all nurses could tell you
01:07:48.140 how to cut all nurses know how they all do whoa wait these are two completely separate claims okay
01:07:53.240 nurses know how to like make surgical incisions they know where you're there okay but hold on
01:07:59.160 nurses know which there may be some dispute as to like nurse like all nurses know like are you
01:08:05.040 talking about like c-sections no c-sections all nurses know what artery to cut because they have
01:08:11.360 to learn that oh my god that's that's a pretty strong claim there so they're smart they all
01:08:16.680 how to study that so hold on a couple things here hold on so um there's there's a quite a bit flawed
01:08:25.240 with this line of argumentation so um do you think it's impossible like how many nurses are in the
01:08:30.960 united states i would say there's like tens of thousands hundreds of thousands i can guarantee
01:08:34.960 you that we can like we could probably pull nurses and be like hey do you know like the best way to
01:08:39.960 like kill yourself by slitting your wrist is it like a long it's not that it's the artery that
01:08:44.940 they know to hit they feel like they know it i'll go like this okay i would even argue that like
01:08:50.560 you could you could like pull nurses and putting the the most effective way to unalive yourself
01:08:58.300 you'd ask them like hey are you familiar like okay you went to nursing school 20 years ago
01:09:03.400 do you know like the artery that's like right here i would say like they take blood they know
01:09:07.820 what it is they all do usually they take blood from the yes that's connected to this what would
01:09:13.040 that have to do okay hold on these are crazy claims so like just because there are claims
01:09:18.580 what do you mean what are they like i'm sharing actual facts facts it's not factually it's not
01:09:24.860 factually correct that every single nurse in this nation knows the most effective way to commit
01:09:29.980 suicide by they know where the rd is because they draw blood and they might well i'm going to contest
01:09:34.240 even that i'm going to contest that there are some nurses who don't even know that then there
01:09:38.980 That's dumb.
01:09:39.860 They should know.
01:09:40.940 Sorry for interjecting, but if there are any nurses who don't know that, I do not want them as my nurse.
01:09:45.920 Exactly.
01:09:46.340 Thank you.
01:09:46.620 They're supposed to know that.
01:09:47.700 Well, no, no, no.
01:09:48.240 Hold on.
01:09:48.600 First off, nurses are not like a, they have not committed to memory like the entirety of human anatomy.
01:09:56.080 They have like a much higher understanding of like anatomy and certain medical things as compared to the general population.
01:10:02.600 But they're not an encyclopedia.
01:10:04.740 Nurses are not encyclopedias.
01:10:05.900 even doctors are not encyclopedic in terms of their medical knowledge so this idea hold on
01:10:10.940 so this idea that it's completely implausible that a nurse would like not know the correct procedure
01:10:18.480 as to how to do this also i would i would double down on this even if she did know even if she did
01:10:26.040 know the best way to do it i would argue you you're alleging that she was pumped full of drugs
01:10:31.320 She's probably fucking
01:10:32.460 She's bonked in the mind
01:10:35.380 She just went through
01:10:36.700 The most traumatic thing one could go through
01:10:39.900 Which is fucking strangling your own kids
01:10:41.760 Which is like a very personal way
01:10:43.360 To kill somebody
01:10:44.560 It's not like with a gun when you're distant
01:10:46.580 When you're strangling someone
01:10:48.260 You feel with your hands
01:10:50.400 The life exiting from them
01:10:52.120 They weren't strangled with their hands
01:10:52.880 We don't know this precise detail
01:10:56.440 She was using like an exercise band to do it
01:10:58.380 She was very up close with it
01:11:01.160 So, she just killed her three children.
01:11:03.760 The woman's not in the correct state of mind.
01:11:05.820 Like, I'm not sure that somebody who's not in the correct state of mind, even if they would otherwise know the best, most effective way to, like, slit your wrist.
01:11:15.600 In the heat of the moment, you could be like, oh, whoopsie, I did it the wrong way.
01:11:22.080 I'm going to jump out the window and slice my shit.
01:11:25.220 Josh Brooks donated $100.
01:11:27.880 I feel like you were thinking about this.
01:11:29.400 There's some super chats, Tiffany.
01:11:35.740 Did you show these, Tiffany?
01:11:38.300 Every nurse knows where the artery is because they have to draw blood.
01:11:41.360 But I feel like you're getting really emotional about this case
01:11:43.440 instead of thinking about it logically with the information and the facts
01:11:46.040 that have been put into court with Mr. Reddington, her lawyers,
01:11:49.440 and all the witnesses that have came to the stand that could support those claims.
01:11:54.040 and speaking speaking in an impassioned way doesn't mean i'm getting emotional perhaps
01:12:00.820 there's a bit of flusteredness by you say that i'm not thinking factually or logically i would
01:12:06.040 actually reverse this on you and say that it's actually you who's lacking in coherence and
01:12:11.380 logic but um i i would say that um it seems like uh the evidence is quite overwhelming
01:12:20.700 The prosecutor says she did it.
01:12:23.060 The defense team says she did it.
01:12:25.380 She says she did it.
01:12:27.120 There's overwhelming evidence that she did it.
01:12:30.460 They are not trying to, this is not a whodunit case.
01:12:35.160 This is a, what they're trying to argue, the defense,
01:12:38.780 and by the way, the defense has a duty to,
01:12:41.920 as lawyers, as criminal defense attorneys,
01:12:45.100 they want the best possible outcome for their client.
01:12:48.000 She says she doesn't even remember that.
01:12:50.260 These ladies understand that this trial isn't guilt or innocent.
01:12:53.880 The trial is determining going to jail for life or not house for life.
01:12:58.640 She already pleaded guilty.
01:12:59.920 Right.
01:13:00.200 She pleaded guilty.
01:13:01.160 So I'll let you respond, but really quick.
01:13:02.780 So the argument that the defense is making is about is she criminally responsible because she's attempting to basically do the insanity defense.
01:13:15.560 and so so that's what they're like and i'm not defending her i'm just saying you guys are looking
01:13:21.440 outside outside you are defending her you guys just think she's guilty because of the way
01:13:26.440 everything's been put but overwhelming evidence yes but going back to the medication the her
01:13:33.540 ex-husband oh boy held on to her medication the seracul the sleeping meds he held on to those
01:13:39.620 when she didn't need them anymore as her doctor said keep this tiffany she got better and she
01:13:44.180 didn't show any signs she was fine so it was really odd for her for her own doctor to even
01:13:49.240 think that she could have done this also lindsey said that she doesn't even remember committing it
01:13:54.680 because how drugged up she was and how could someone be so drugged up and i remember doing
01:13:59.860 something something so tragic something so terrible wait these are completely contradictory
01:14:04.120 so on one hand she was super drugged up yeah but i said her husband was holding on to the medication
01:14:09.140 those were the medication where's the evidence for that but hold on really quick so she this is a
01:14:13.180 good it's below the threshold we don't really read membership messages so she was of sound
01:14:17.680 enough mind to remember her nurse training but not enough to not kill her kids she didn't remember
01:14:21.900 her nurse training that's what i was saying okay or she would have killed herself wait i have a
01:14:26.200 question for you so like do you think it would be impossible if say um and who knows how close to
01:14:32.080 the window she did this but like i'm pretty far away but i'm far from the balcony right now like
01:14:36.880 i'm pretty confident if and obviously she did a really bad job like did she she slipped both
01:14:42.700 She went like this, though.
01:14:45.060 It was like this, but the cuts were left-handed, and she's right-handed.
01:14:50.020 Wait, how would you establish?
01:14:52.620 That's why I'm saying you haven't been looking at the facts that's been coming out.
01:14:55.880 They've been talking about it in court.
01:14:57.880 How would you establish whether a cut is left-handed?
01:15:01.000 That's what we're learning in my class, too.
01:15:02.820 That's a way to find out.
01:15:04.280 Huh?
01:15:05.680 I don't know about the case at all, but this is what I do know from a medical perspective.
01:15:10.960 I don't know the case.
01:15:11.720 When you try to commit suicide
01:15:14.360 By cutting your wrist
01:15:15.640 There are two patterns
01:15:16.860 Horizontal or vertical
01:15:18.500 Now you're saying
01:15:20.960 That she actually did cut
01:15:22.820 No I'm just saying
01:15:24.680 Because you said she cut it
01:15:26.040 So I'm saying she cut it correct
01:15:27.480 I'm just going off what you said
01:15:30.800 I'm not defending either way
01:15:32.320 I'm just bringing my
01:15:33.940 What I know about technicality
01:15:36.380 When you try to commit suicide
01:15:38.840 Horizontal
01:15:39.800 You damage the tendon
01:15:41.240 so you cannot grab anything else.
01:15:44.660 Well, I would suppose that would depend.
01:15:47.140 What are we doing here, Tiffany?
01:15:48.580 What are you looking for?
01:15:51.060 And therefore, if you are right-handed,
01:15:53.860 once you cut your left hand,
01:15:57.180 it's very impossible for you to go to the right hand
01:16:00.620 because you can no longer grab
01:16:02.420 because you already cut your tendons.
01:16:05.000 That's what they're trying to argue,
01:16:06.260 that she couldn't cut her own both wrists.
01:16:08.580 If you did it vertically...
01:16:10.920 Hold on.
01:16:11.420 We're making a lot of assumptions here.
01:16:12.880 There were not many.
01:16:13.300 Okay, so can you clarify?
01:16:14.580 So, again, I don't have, like, all the details about the case.
01:16:19.940 Was it a horizontal or a vertical cut?
01:16:22.680 It was a very deep cut.
01:16:24.200 I'm pretty sure it went like this.
01:16:25.580 Wait, but then why did you say you've just sent us on a wild goose chase?
01:16:29.700 I didn't.
01:16:30.080 I just said the veins.
01:16:31.120 I've been trying to tell you the arteries that she didn't hit the arteries that are going down.
01:16:35.380 I've been doing the hand movement the whole time.
01:16:36.560 So she would have been able to open the window.
01:16:38.180 Also, I would argue, even if you were to do a horizontal slice, depending on how deep it is, maybe you don't get deep enough to disable your hands.
01:16:49.720 The cuts were super deep.
01:16:50.900 They put pictures of it.
01:16:51.380 I was going to finish.
01:16:52.860 She's saying if it's horizontal.
01:16:55.540 And if it's vertical, when you do the cut vertical, it's people who have medical background because they know by cutting vertical, you will not close.
01:17:07.520 so you will you are forced to bleed to death wait but what does that have to do with anything like
01:17:12.300 13 year olds if they like research this online can figure out like okay um if you're actually
01:17:18.180 trying to do this vertical is more effective and then you will have to start with your right hand
01:17:22.940 if you're right handed so you can do both you can't this is hold on i i reject the idea that
01:17:29.700 that a vertical cut here would completely disable your hand that's not backed up by any like
01:17:35.880 It will not deserve, listen again, when you cut vertical, you're cutting deep enough in your vein, so you will not clot.
01:17:44.420 The clot will prevent you from bleeding out.
01:17:47.920 What does this have to do with anything?
01:17:49.780 It has to do everything with it.
01:17:51.300 No, it doesn't.
01:17:51.880 It's completely ridiculous.
01:17:52.880 So your contention is that it is completely impossible to cut both sides.
01:17:58.120 No person who's ever committed suicide in history has, that's completely false.
01:18:02.580 It's completely false.
01:18:03.400 But how do you know that?
01:18:04.140 do you know the depth
01:18:06.560 first off do you know the depth
01:18:07.840 they talked about it
01:18:09.800 it's completely ridiculous
01:18:10.960 you should read up on the case
01:18:12.540 what about that girl from 13 Reasons Why
01:18:17.220 she used a razor blade
01:18:19.320 but that wasn't accurate
01:18:21.720 it was just
01:18:22.180 they literally said that's not an accurate scene
01:18:24.940 and then they put a whole warning on that episode
01:18:27.340 you can't cut that deep
01:18:29.820 and be able to do it on your other hand
01:18:30.880 but she cut her throat
01:18:31.780 that's what I'm trying to say
01:18:32.620 This is factually just untrue.
01:18:35.040 This is factually untrue.
01:18:36.700 This is completely bogus.
01:18:38.860 This idea, first off, we don't know the, are there photos of the cuts?
01:18:41.860 Yes, there is.
01:18:42.840 They showed it on the stand.
01:18:44.740 Yes.
01:18:44.960 Okay.
01:18:45.380 Search it up.
01:18:45.860 We got a fact check.
01:18:46.980 Search up all the case photos.
01:18:47.620 We probably can't show it on YouTube, but.
01:18:50.020 On trial too, the trial was life and they showed it.
01:18:53.860 He pulled it out and even actually the other side, the lawyers showed the pictures too.
01:19:01.560 they had it printed in big photos saying were these your injuries correct and she's like yes
01:19:06.640 that's from what i remember but i'm telling the truth because i've been actually studying and
01:19:11.380 looking at both sides of everything and i'm not being emotional or anything i'm actually using
01:19:16.240 trying to use my knowledge that i've been learning in school that i really care about my major i
01:19:21.160 really care about the right person going to jail okay so wrong people go to jail yeah so i have
01:19:25.920 something here medical experts testified that her wrist cuts were full thickness lacerations
01:19:30.160 that extended through the outer layers of skin into the underlying fatty tissue,
01:19:34.260 but did not sever any major arteries, veins, or tendons.
01:19:39.660 That's what I was saying.
01:19:40.880 Right, but so that wouldn't prevent her from having control of her other hands.
01:19:43.880 It was a superficial call.
01:19:44.800 Well, it's not superficial, but she didn't sever any major arteries, veins, or tendons.
01:19:50.540 These are the things that would have enabled her, in terms of control,
01:19:55.420 to cut the other side and then cut the neck and then to open.
01:19:59.260 Can you search up her throat cut, too?
01:20:02.220 Okay.
01:20:02.740 We can search up Lindsay Clancy.
01:20:06.840 Because hers was really deep.
01:20:08.580 That's what they're trying to say.
01:20:10.160 Oh, so would you be able to cut both your wrists and your throat, get up from the bed, all the way from the bed, and then go all the way to the window?
01:20:18.640 Open the window.
01:20:19.520 Open the curtains.
01:20:20.920 But she's drugged.
01:20:22.200 Remember that.
01:20:22.800 She can't move.
01:20:23.460 So the miracle was making her sleepy.
01:20:24.980 This is like Schrodinger's Lindsay, like Schrodinger's Lindsay Clancy.
01:20:29.720 You can't do that.
01:20:31.340 On one hand, she's, okay.
01:20:35.800 Hold on.
01:20:37.440 Is it, is this important?
01:20:39.280 You can go.
01:20:39.860 No, no, no, go, just go, just go.
01:20:41.760 I underscore heart underscore ghost rider donated $100.
01:20:46.540 The woman is a complete psychopath.
01:20:49.400 She unalived three babies.
01:20:51.060 of course she's going to botch her butterfly to make herself look insane so could plead insanity
01:20:56.720 yeah let me interject real quick they're sideways for uh attention long ways for results we're all
01:21:04.460 forgetting that right now i think she definitely staged it to look like she was ready to kill
01:21:11.580 herself with the kids and i don't know anything about the case right now but just knowing from
01:21:16.620 And the way she cut herself just seems like it's more attention-based, if anything.
01:21:20.680 You can do that.
01:21:21.600 I've known people who survived those things.
01:21:23.360 Also, you should listen up to the 911 call, too.
01:21:25.420 On one hand, here's Lindsay Clancy Schrodinger's, the Schrodinger's.
01:21:30.580 So on one hand, she's like this super intelligent medical nurse who knows exactly how to unalive herself with the exact perfect cuts.
01:21:39.220 But she's also on the drugs, which would inhibit her mental state.
01:21:45.600 So either, like, her hands weren't working, she would have died because of her, like, really good cuts, but also she was on drugs, so maybe the cuts weren't good.
01:21:56.880 What do you have?
01:21:57.500 I was just going to say if we can clarify the case for those that do not know, because there's a majority of us that don't know the full case.
01:22:02.980 Okay, we'll pull the Wikipedia up really quick.
01:22:05.180 Can I get back to the drugs real quick?
01:22:06.380 Hold on, hold on.
01:22:07.440 So, okay, really quick on the cut thing, then we're going to explain, like, for the fucking people who don't know.
01:22:12.040 Um, so multiple, she had multiple superficial cuts to both sides of her neck alongside the
01:22:18.900 two deeper linear incisions, linear incisions on her throat and numerous hesitation marks.
01:22:27.120 So, um, like this doesn't establish that, um, that this would have been made her incapable
01:22:38.340 to jump out of a window or whatever.
01:22:40.500 May I explain now?
01:22:41.920 Really quick, let me, Tiffany, do you have the Wikipedia for her?
01:22:45.260 Yeah.
01:22:45.720 Okay, let's pull that up.
01:22:47.700 All right, I need someone who's a good reader, who has a good voice.
01:22:54.280 Yeah, you.
01:22:55.420 Make it bigger, please.
01:22:56.480 Oh, me?
01:22:57.020 Okay.
01:22:58.000 On January 24th, 2023, Lindsay and Patrick Clancy's three young children were strangled by Lindsay Clancy,
01:23:05.720 and she was found unconscious in an apparent suicide attempt outside her home in Duxbury, Massachusetts.
01:23:11.920 lindsey clancy was accused of the murders and pleaded not guilty to the charges
01:23:16.160 with her defense admitting to the killings but arguing that clancy should not be held
01:23:20.640 criminally responsible it's cut off tiffany you gotta lower it because her actions were
01:23:25.680 the result of a severe postpartum mental health crisis okay uh so the charges are first degree
01:23:32.000 murder three counts strangulation three counts and then um can you um maybe zoom it out a little
01:23:38.320 little bit i'm gonna have you scroll down just a bit okay like um wait that's too much that's too
01:23:46.060 i need it bigger make it bigger please okay scroll down okay um so she had postpartum anxiety
01:23:55.280 following the birth of her first two children after the birth of her second child she talked
01:23:59.920 to a therapist took to the loft she said her symptoms returned and worsened after the birth
01:24:05.540 of her third child particularly toward the end of her maternity leave uh she was going to start
01:24:12.780 zoloft again she went to see a psychiatrist she was diagnosed with a generalized anxiety disorder
01:24:20.920 she's prescribed zoloft uh not everything on here is correct not everything on yeah that's what
01:24:28.480 they're talking about like most of it is but not all information because of wikipedia not everything
01:24:33.820 is accurate that's why okay well i mean wikipedia is mostly for the sake of like some of this
01:24:40.440 background information i'm i think it's pretty well the background was correct like the count
01:24:44.960 pull it back up please uh she was described out of van anti-anxiety medication um she
01:24:54.100 was had sleeplessness she was using benadryl uh prescribed boost bar i'm not sure what that is
01:25:02.040 She did not take it.
01:25:04.480 Ativan may be addictive.
01:25:05.940 Reduced her dosage.
01:25:07.040 Scroll down.
01:25:09.480 Condition worsened.
01:25:11.400 She lost her appetite, withdrew socially.
01:25:15.700 She said that although Ativan had helped her feel normal again.
01:25:19.280 Scroll down.
01:25:20.660 She was prescribed Trazodone.
01:25:23.300 It was ineffective.
01:25:24.880 Scroll down.
01:25:25.480 She was prescribed Prozac, Ambien, Remeron, Klonopin.
01:25:31.080 She left the hospital.
01:25:33.600 She was prescribed Seroquel, an antipsychotic.
01:25:37.740 Was she ever hospitalized?
01:25:40.140 Yeah, multiple times.
01:25:41.580 She was having intrusive thoughts.
01:25:43.280 But they released her.
01:25:44.280 Wanting to be, okay, she was suicidal.
01:25:47.600 She was numb, no emotion whatsoever.
01:25:53.260 Let's see.
01:25:54.760 Might I add?
01:25:55.280 She was having hallucinations.
01:25:57.240 She contacted suicide hotlines.
01:25:59.540 And they said she didn't need help.
01:26:03.000 She did not have a plan to hurt herself.
01:26:06.020 Somebody suggested she had bipolar disorder.
01:26:09.020 Scroll down.
01:26:10.800 She went to the emergency room.
01:26:12.640 She declined inpatient treatment.
01:26:15.620 She admitted herself to a day program for postpartum depression at the hospital.
01:26:21.620 They quickly discharged her.
01:26:23.180 her issues were more likely related to over medication misdiagnosis than to postpartum
01:26:29.320 depression advised her to stop taking Seroquel scroll down she was going to help she was going
01:26:37.280 to try to taper off she went to the emergency room again December 31st 2022 she voluntarily
01:26:44.440 began inpatient treatment a highly ranked psychiatric institution diagnosed her with
01:26:49.600 major depressive disorder severe without psychotic features um doctor says she was not displaying
01:26:58.400 psychosis uh she was prescribed adivan and trazdone in january of 2023 uh this doctor
01:27:07.500 dr tufts described her as deteriorating change from medication prescribed amitriptyline
01:27:17.200 On January 23rd, the day before the killings, she had a virtual appointment with Dr. Tufts.
01:27:22.640 She looked depressed.
01:27:24.780 She had to force herself out of bed, denied suicidal and homicidal thoughts, and he did not observe psychosis.
01:27:31.100 Okay.
01:27:32.160 So here's the case, the killings.
01:27:33.680 Scroll down.
01:27:35.860 According to Patrick, the husband...
01:27:39.040 Somebody else, please read these.
01:27:41.000 Okay.
01:27:41.380 Here, let me have you read it.
01:27:43.240 According to Patrick, in the morning of January 24th, 2023, Lindsay Clancy told him that she had slept pretty well and was feeling good.
01:27:51.660 Clancy had become preoccupied with their daughter Cora's stomach ache, concerned that it was caused by liver issue, and took her to the pediatrician appointment.
01:28:00.820 In the afternoon, she built a snowman and did an art project with the kids.
01:28:04.960 Throughout the day, she exchanged routine texts with Patrick, who was working from home.
01:28:09.660 at 5 15 p.m clancy called a restaurant to place a takeout order at clancy's request patrick left
01:28:16.740 their residence to pick up the food and to buy medication for cora at 5 32 p.m patrick stopped
01:28:23.820 at the drugstore he was seen on surveillance video calling clancy about which medication to buy
01:28:29.020 clancy did not pick up immediately but called back minutes later a minute later patrick later
01:28:35.320 testified that she seemed busy. He arrived at the restaurant at 5.54 p.m. and returned home shortly
01:28:41.920 after 6 p.m. Continue. While her husband was gone, Clancy strangled her three children with
01:28:49.640 exercise bands in the basement, after which she attempted suicide by cutting her wrists and neck
01:28:54.920 and jumping from the second story window. Clancy sustained spinal cord injuries from the fall and
01:29:00.760 was hospitalized, she remains paralyzed from the waist down as of 2026. In a later lawsuit,
01:29:08.060 Clancy said that she heard a male voice directing her to commit the acts. Clancy claimed she woke up
01:29:13.240 with a suicidal thought. In the afternoon, she claimed a voice began to tell her to harm the
01:29:18.340 children. After Patrick left to pick up the food, Clancy claimed the voice became loud, demanding
01:29:24.520 and repeatedly told her, this is your last chance. You have to kill the kids so you can kill yourself.
01:29:31.380 Clancy claimed that a force took over her and that she felt an overwhelming, irresistible compulsion to comply.
01:29:39.500 Scroll down.
01:29:40.920 Continue.
01:29:42.620 After returning home, Patrick discovered the upstairs bedroom bloodied and the window open.
01:29:47.000 He ran outside and found Clancy lying outside, injured and semi-conscious.
01:29:51.940 Patrick called 911 and the police responded to the call at 6.11 p.m.
01:29:56.360 While still on the phone with 911, Patrick entered the house to look for the children.
01:30:02.060 He made his way to the basement and discovered all three children.
01:30:04.860 Each of them were unconscious in a medical distress.
01:30:09.440 Resuscitation efforts were made by responders.
01:30:12.980 The children were taken to Beth Israel, Decadence Hospital, Plymouth, where Cora, age five, and Dawson, age three, were pronounced dead.
01:30:22.800 The youngest, Callahan, eight months.
01:30:25.060 Fuck, someone else read it.
01:30:26.540 I'm sorry.
01:30:27.000 I arrived to the hospital and he carried a rest.
01:30:28.980 No, no, no, no, no.
01:30:29.720 Sorry, you have an accent.
01:30:30.680 Go ahead.
01:30:31.820 Oh, me?
01:30:32.280 Yeah.
01:30:32.580 Okay.
01:30:33.200 I'm sorry, where are we at?
01:30:34.820 At the youngest.
01:30:36.300 He was flown by medical helicopter to Boston Children's Hospital.
01:30:40.180 Last night.
01:30:42.380 Where he needed...
01:30:43.700 Guys, come on.
01:30:45.020 I'm sorry.
01:30:46.580 Where Cora, age five, and Dawson...
01:30:48.220 Oh, my God, where he needed a ventilator.
01:30:49.820 He died after three days on January 27th, 2023.
01:30:54.280 Scroll down.
01:30:57.640 Scroll down, scroll down.
01:30:59.040 We're going to skip to the current standing of the legal proceedings.
01:31:02.640 Scroll.
01:31:04.500 We're not going to read all this.
01:31:05.760 Scroll down, scroll down to the very bottom.
01:31:07.960 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:31:10.440 Scroll back up, scroll back up, up, up, up.
01:31:15.460 Okay.
01:31:15.860 All right, so that's kind of it.
01:31:19.820 And they rested their case. It's going to go to jury deliberations, I believe, either on Monday or Tuesday. On Monday, the prosecutor and defense are going to give closing arguments. And then from there, the jury will deliberate. I suspect, I mean, I don't know. I don't think they're going to deliberate for very long.
01:31:39.460 But, yeah, so, okay, that's the case.
01:31:46.640 Now, the interesting part about this, which we're going to get into, is, I'm sorry, you can't do that.
01:31:56.320 It's causing too much noise.
01:31:57.540 We got microphones.
01:31:59.960 So, millions of women, predominant, it's 99% women.
01:32:09.460 are supporting her, are defending her.
01:32:12.160 Now, there's varying degrees to their support and defense.
01:32:16.480 Some of them go as far as she goes,
01:32:18.920 which is to say that Lindsay Clancy, in fact,
01:32:21.660 did not kill the children.
01:32:25.240 She was framed.
01:32:27.660 She was set up.
01:32:28.500 It's some conspiracy.
01:32:30.540 Others do, in fact, believe that she did commit this crime,
01:32:34.680 But perhaps because, you know, because of the postpartum depression or other reasons or the sisterhood that she isn't guilty or shouldn't be found guilty or should have leniency or something like this.
01:32:51.180 I would like to remind you that the women who are her supporters, who do in fact believe she murdered her three children, I still even find that problematic.
01:33:05.780 But I certainly find it more problematic the conspiracy theorists and deniers who believe the husband did it, somebody else did it, she was framed, she didn't do it.
01:33:13.700 So that's your position. She did not do it.
01:33:16.380 Well, I think there is more to it.
01:33:18.220 But I feel like after this podcast, when you guys get a chance, study up on everything.
01:33:23.700 Like, look at it.
01:33:24.440 They have everything public.
01:33:26.260 And you can look at summarizing clips.
01:33:28.700 They don't have everything public.
01:33:30.360 They do have most of the stuff public.
01:33:32.940 Is the 911 call public?
01:33:34.800 There is 911 calls for this case that are public.
01:33:37.720 It is not public.
01:33:38.480 It has not been made public.
01:33:40.260 But they used it in court.
01:33:42.040 So there's a video of it.
01:33:43.080 You can hear his 911 call he made and his testimony on what he said.
01:33:48.220 So those are through the court live streams that they were having.
01:33:52.940 Okay, but so your contention is, what do you think happened?
01:33:58.300 I think there is more to it because the doctors did say she did not show signs of psychosis or suicidal thoughts.
01:34:05.340 They have asked her many, many times.
01:34:07.940 All her doctors and witnesses came and said she didn't show any of those signs.
01:34:12.220 They checked up on her.
01:34:13.480 Okay, really quick on that.
01:34:15.280 have you ever heard like where
01:34:17.440 somebody commits a suicide
01:34:18.840 and people are surprised like
01:34:21.400 oh I didn't see the signs the signs were there all the
01:34:23.540 time no
01:34:24.640 so every
01:34:26.780 oh my god this is so bad faith
01:34:29.020 so every single suicide that has ever
01:34:31.360 occurred in human history there were definitely
01:34:33.460 signs except for Lindsay
01:34:35.520 Clancy no they all have their own signs
01:34:37.180 no there's definitely people who commit suicide
01:34:39.020 and it's like I didn't see the signs
01:34:40.960 I had a friend who was the sweetest happiest
01:34:43.300 person who had a lot going for him
01:34:44.980 She's doing the meme.
01:34:46.180 No.
01:34:46.320 You're doing the meme.
01:34:47.940 Okay, can I ask you a question?
01:34:50.860 Are men taller than women?
01:34:53.180 No.
01:34:55.200 Like, taller?
01:34:56.420 Yes.
01:34:56.800 Are men taller than women?
01:34:59.340 I mean, most men, yeah.
01:35:01.200 Most men are taller.
01:35:02.360 Yeah.
01:35:03.040 Sorry, I'm pretty tall, so I was just going to base it up.
01:35:04.360 Okay, yeah, but generally speaking, are men taller than women?
01:35:07.360 Yes.
01:35:07.900 But there are some women.
01:35:09.660 Let me ask you a question.
01:35:10.640 If you didn't have breakfast this morning, how would you feel?
01:35:12.540 like kind of hungry okay well she passes that good job uh okay so
01:35:19.920 um did they ever evaluate her because you're saying that they she was hospitalized they said
01:35:27.100 they didn't see any of that and they released but um sometimes like hormonal changes and
01:35:32.560 imbalances obviously of you having a birth like sorry um actually religious donated 100
01:35:39.200 Sorry for the delay, guys.
01:35:40.060 Share three is a poster child for the reasons to repeal the 19th and to bring back soap operas to give drama queens and the candy cult something irrelevant to focus on.
01:35:49.880 Holy batshit crazy man.
01:35:51.840 Sorry, guys.
01:35:52.340 I paused the TTS while we were, like, reading that long thing because I didn't want it to, like, when we were reading something that long.
01:35:58.600 These all came in, like, five minutes ago.
01:36:00.600 I didn't want this to get interrupted.
01:36:02.180 There's three more that are coming through.
01:36:03.680 Actually religious.
01:36:04.940 Thanks for the TTS.
01:36:05.980 Appreciate it.
01:36:06.520 The average Josh donated $100.
01:36:09.780 Okay, Chair 3U1 facts.
01:36:12.280 Have you ever been on Zoloft?
01:36:14.420 Because I have been.
01:36:15.860 While on Zoloft, I developed harm OCD.
01:36:18.900 Look it up.
01:36:19.880 That is what she had, and she acted on them.
01:36:22.600 She is guilty as sin.
01:36:24.800 She didn't take the Zoloft.
01:36:26.700 She didn't take the medication that they were talking about.
01:36:30.040 That's why I was talking about the medication that her husband held on to,
01:36:32.840 all the medication that she was prescribed to,
01:36:34.840 but she never took them because she told them she wasn't going to.
01:36:37.920 But he held on to them, and somehow she was drugged
01:36:40.500 when she wasn't taking any medication.
01:36:42.260 He was against it.
01:36:43.780 The average Josh donated $100.
01:36:46.500 This is why I got a Zoloft, and I am better,
01:36:49.440 and I was on the lowest freaking dose.
01:36:51.680 She had every opportunity to do the same.
01:36:54.340 Stop giving her an excuse to be a killer.
01:36:56.960 Absolutely disgusting.
01:37:00.300 Yo, the average Josh, thank you for that.
01:37:02.140 We have one more coming in.
01:37:03.320 one more coming in
01:37:04.900 you can do a quick response if you can
01:37:07.640 you got like five seconds
01:37:08.480 I just feel like everyone in the chat should also do their
01:37:11.560 research and study as well
01:37:13.660 hemorrhoid cream donated
01:37:15.180 $100
01:37:16.060 chair 3 pop over to the army recruiter
01:37:19.660 your level of idiocy is more
01:37:21.700 their speed
01:37:22.540 classic Candice viewer
01:37:24.300 but to finish what I was saying was that
01:37:27.520 sometimes you can develop
01:37:29.440 schizophrenia later on in your life
01:37:31.640 did anybody evaluate her for that?
01:37:33.000 evaluated her and she didn't have it that's why the voices didn't make sense and there was a new
01:37:38.160 piece of information but this is all very secondary stuff like whether she did or didn't have psychosis
01:37:46.100 she killed the kids oh she killed the kids factual yes factual yes but i'm just bringing other facts
01:37:53.540 to light because i think everyone should know everything you're bringing misinformation no
01:37:57.940 there's no misinformation that's what's been discussed in court maybe if you look you'll see
01:38:01.720 Okay, so what are the facts?
01:38:04.100 What is the evidence pointing towards Patrick Clancy, as you claim, actually being the one who killed the children?
01:38:12.260 I said he might have been.
01:38:13.880 I said he might have been, and only because of the certain things that have been pointing to him.
01:38:17.860 Okay, but if I were to say you might be a pedophile, I would still need to present some sort of evidence that would point to you being a pedophile.
01:38:24.780 Representing a lot of guilty stuff.
01:38:26.420 He held on to her medication that are very harmful.
01:38:29.440 That would improve.
01:38:30.220 Also, before he went to the restaurant, he stopped at the CVS and he changed his clothes.
01:38:33.580 Can I ask you a question?
01:38:34.360 So, like, let's say somebody – most of the time when, like, say a spouse is killed, the police usually look at the husband.
01:38:40.580 So let's say before the murder of somebody, they have an argument.
01:38:46.160 Okay, just because you have an argument with your spouse and your spouse ends up dead, does it 100% guarantee that the spouse is the person who killed the victim?
01:38:55.020 Are you familiar with the Chris Watts?
01:38:56.560 Do you want to answer my question before you ask me a question?
01:39:00.220 They didn't question the man, though, at all.
01:39:05.360 That's not what he asked.
01:39:07.100 That still doesn't answer my question.
01:39:09.140 Could you summarize that? Sorry.
01:39:10.900 Okay.
01:39:11.520 So you can point to all these things that, but, oh, he withheld the medication or whatever.
01:39:19.380 Like, even if we grant that's true, like, even if we grant it, and we can dispute whether some of these things you're claiming are true,
01:39:26.360 even granting all of it that doesn't establish that he's the one who did the crime like what
01:39:36.060 if he just let's say for example just hypothetical this isn't actually true let's say he bought a ski
01:39:40.500 mask before this like that's really suspicious why would somebody buy a ski mask and oh like
01:39:45.620 you bought a ski mask in close proximity to when you committed a crime just by virtue of buying a
01:39:50.800 ski mask does that establish that you've committed the crime or a crime um well like relating to the
01:39:57.560 david case wow thank you for not letting her answer the question okay you gotta please please
01:40:02.520 wait go ahead i'm i'm just saying not just a ski mask that's only one thing i wouldn't take that
01:40:07.280 in account but there's many other things as when his he went to the cvs and exchanged somebody with
01:40:14.220 someone who had their face covered who was covering their face like this i don't know if you saw that
01:40:19.200 footage that came out and he didn't tell them about his whereabouts that was the average josh
01:40:23.760 donated 100 also chair five is the goat of the panel already chair three needs to quite while
01:40:30.940 she's already way behind you can have flesh wounds and still jump out the window have you
01:40:36.660 ever tried cutting bet not but i was saying for thank you uh josh thank you josh but i was saying
01:40:45.880 for his whereabouts um he went to cvs and did an exchange with someone who had their face covered
01:40:51.240 right before the restaurant but he changed his clothes so how do you explain that after he when
01:40:57.720 he didn't leave the house what was the exchange what what do you mean they're not sure but the
01:41:01.940 person had their face covered and it was a very suspicious exchange right when he was supposed
01:41:06.300 to go to the restaurant to pick up the food for his wife as she was killing the kids wait so on
01:41:12.680 one hand it not only that footage was there there's there's security camera footage from
01:41:20.780 wherever he went with giving him an alibi but not only that there's a another individual who he had
01:41:28.540 actual contact with during the time that it's alleged that the children were killed while he
01:41:33.820 wasn't at his house while the lindsey was at the house it doesn't give him an alibi the time stamps
01:41:38.960 They don't match because their kids were killed a lot earlier.
01:41:42.680 That's what they're saying.
01:41:44.180 Who is saying?
01:41:45.680 Who?
01:41:46.100 Who is saying that?
01:41:47.780 When they were presenting the evidence.
01:41:51.820 If just later on, search it up, the CVS footage.
01:41:55.600 Tiffany, can you, in chat GPT, can you do Lindsay Clancy timeline?
01:42:02.840 Patrick CVS footage.
01:42:04.220 You can search that one up too.
01:42:05.260 Sure.
01:42:05.760 Lindsay Clancy Patrick timeline.
01:42:07.580 so we can get both our timeline.
01:42:09.840 You had something?
01:42:11.600 No, it was, sorry, it was you.
01:42:13.780 Oh, it was just relating to the stuff
01:42:16.360 that he was buying, purchasing,
01:42:18.140 that in the David case that just happened
01:42:20.240 with that child.
01:42:21.100 And it all connected just with the Chris Watts too.
01:42:23.740 I have a question.
01:42:24.240 That was I was relating to.
01:42:25.380 Okay, what's your question?
01:42:28.340 I saw in the Wikipedia
01:42:29.640 that she was taking several medications.
01:42:32.500 Have the pharmaceutical,
01:42:34.460 it made an expression about the consequences
01:42:37.120 of the mix of the different medication
01:42:40.020 to cause, I'm just asking.
01:42:42.600 This is a very secondary,
01:42:44.920 the drug cocktail that she was or wasn't on
01:42:48.100 is very secondary to what we're talking about here.
01:42:50.480 So if you want to litigate it
01:42:53.180 with the big pharma culpability,
01:42:56.340 that's a separate conversation.
01:42:58.180 We're talking about
01:42:59.520 whether Lindsay Clancy did or did not.
01:43:04.100 Well, she definitely did it.
01:43:05.280 well her contention is that she didn't go ahead no the conspiracy that the husband did i do not
01:43:10.040 believe it i feel like there's more to it that's why i think we should stop giving people with
01:43:14.700 mental illnesses the excuse to do heinous things because three children are dead and that's all
01:43:21.160 and there's no excuse i'm just listing evidence because i feel like you're not listing evidence
01:43:26.380 Yes, I am.
01:43:27.000 That's public evidence.
01:43:28.440 Okay, but hold on.
01:43:28.780 No, no, no.
01:43:29.480 Okay.
01:43:32.440 Patrick Clancy doing things that maybe raise an eyebrow, even granting it, that's not evidence.
01:43:40.880 That isn't evidence.
01:43:42.400 It raises two eyebrows.
01:43:43.440 That's what I'm trying to say.
01:43:44.580 Something suspicious.
01:43:46.080 Because they talked about her Apple Watch.
01:43:48.400 You cannot convict someone just on suspicious behavior.
01:43:52.600 But there's, I'm not convicting them, but I'm saying there's something to look at.
01:43:56.780 There is something to look at.
01:43:57.800 Okay.
01:43:58.260 Can I ask you a question?
01:44:00.080 Say that there's a public execution and somebody there is looking around kind of suspiciously
01:44:09.240 and they look, they're kind of jittering.
01:44:11.060 That's not the same thing.
01:44:11.280 Well, that's suspicious.
01:44:12.460 No, but there's things pointing to him, like timelines, places.
01:44:16.540 Okay, Tiffany, do you have the timeline?
01:44:17.780 Yeah.
01:44:18.060 Pull it up, please.
01:44:18.300 His statements.
01:44:20.120 Make it bigger, please.
01:44:22.600 Uh, okay. Make it one bigger. All right. Uh, Laura, can you try to read these?
01:44:31.580 8 a.m. Lindsay takes Cora to a pediatric appointment. Patrick stays home with Dawson and Callan.
01:44:40.000 Patrick and Lindsay exchange photos of the children by text. Patrick testified that her
01:44:44.600 messages appear normal and coherent. Lindsay and Cora returned home. Patrick goes downstairs
01:44:49.380 to work in his home office.
01:44:51.480 During the day, Lindsay sends Patrick and her mother photos of the children.
01:44:55.260 Lindsay texts Patrick about asking getting takeout from 3V.
01:44:59.380 Patrick agrees.
01:45:00.200 Lindsay calls 3V and places takeout order.
01:45:02.960 Lindsay asks Patrick to pick up children's liquid stool softener while he's out.
01:45:06.680 Patrick leaves the house to go to CVS and then 3V.
01:45:09.620 Lindsay Apple Watch records his last heart rate activity data
01:45:12.780 with a recorded heart rate of 57 BPM.
01:45:16.060 Patrick and Lindsay have a brief phone call reported approximately 14 seconds.
01:45:19.980 Patrick exits CVS.
01:45:22.380 A flight of stairs is recorded by Lindsay's phone,
01:45:24.420 apparently the last significant movement recorded by the phone's health data.
01:45:28.140 Patrick arrives at 3V, picks up, and pays for the food.
01:45:30.700 Patrick calls Lindsay again.
01:45:31.820 The call is unanswered.
01:45:33.160 Patrick returns home, finds the door locked,
01:45:35.560 enters, and discovers Lindsay outside with serious injuries.
01:45:38.980 She tells him she attempted suicide and that the children are in the basement.
01:45:42.260 I need somebody else to read this.
01:45:44.620 Can you read it starting at the crucial 25- to 30-minute window?
01:45:48.280 Yeah.
01:45:48.940 The prosecution's timeline therefore focuses heavily on the period after Patrick left the house around 5.15 p.m.
01:45:55.840 and before he returned around 6 p.m.
01:45:58.480 Prosecutors allege the killings occurred during that window.
01:46:02.540 One particularly interesting piece of evidence is that Lindsay's Apple Watch stopped recording heart rate at approximately 5.23 p.m.
01:46:10.220 while Patrick was away running the errands.
01:46:13.440 That doesn't itself establish what happened at 523, but it gives investigators a potentially important temporal marker.
01:46:25.540 I'm not reading the rest. That's just ChatGPT going off.
01:46:28.740 And then for the, if you could put it in ChatGPT, ask about the secret exchange he did with someone in the CVS.
01:46:37.500 That's what the footage was about.
01:46:39.000 It was someone literally covered, only their eyes showing, hoodie head to toe.
01:46:43.440 And he did a secure exchange and he didn't buy, he didn't purchase this stool softener.
01:46:49.640 Okay.
01:46:50.180 That stool medication that she was asking for.
01:46:54.320 He never purchased anything?
01:46:57.040 He didn't purchase that specific thing she wanted.
01:47:00.240 But did he get anything?
01:47:01.480 No, he did an exchange with someone.
01:47:03.280 That's where the footage is.
01:47:04.100 I don't see anything about that.
01:47:05.980 I just Googled secret exchange Patrick Clancy.
01:47:11.440 I have the footage.
01:47:12.360 I see nothing.
01:47:13.440 They showed the footage in court. So on the live stream, it was him and the CVS doing that exchange. They were questioning him.
01:47:20.840 Okay, so you're saying there's Patrick Clancy's CVS...
01:47:24.120 Exchange with the hooded person.
01:47:27.360 Oh, okay.
01:47:31.180 It was a security footage.
01:47:34.660 So, but again, like, even if this is true, what would that even establish?
01:47:40.020 what what would it establish what is it pointing to doubt and suspicion because he kept that
01:47:46.800 i'm just speaking from a legal perspective in a way where some things look suspicious when you
01:47:52.160 withhold them and he that does make you look a little okay so if if you let me let's assume in
01:47:58.520 a situation where um let's say you were cheating on your boyfriend let's say which is a terrible
01:48:06.100 thing to do yeah uh and somehow someone related to you you are somehow you didn't commit the crime
01:48:12.840 but you're somehow like a witness or something uh or you're secondary to the murder and then
01:48:18.980 if you tell the police by the way i was out fucking like my affair partner um that's gonna
01:48:25.700 like have blowback on you but you had an alibi that's different but hold on he does have the
01:48:30.600 alibi he was at the cvs so i'm again the time didn't match you literally read it in the chat
01:48:36.800 but i don't understand so it seems like you have like an anti-male bias because what about
01:48:44.120 everything that points towards her guilt even if we grant that patrick clancy was suspicious and
01:48:51.740 he went on a vacation soon and it's suspicious that he had a meeting a supposed meeting i i
01:48:57.660 I don't know if this is actually true at the CVS with a hooded individual.
01:49:01.260 It was a quick drop off.
01:49:02.320 It was, they were trying to be slick.
01:49:03.940 That's why.
01:49:05.000 Okay.
01:49:05.400 So maybe he does drugs.
01:49:07.740 Maybe he, who knows?
01:49:09.580 Like, we don't know what that is.
01:49:12.480 It's the fact that he didn't share it.
01:49:14.340 But that, okay.
01:49:16.080 Does that in and of itself establish him as guilty of killing his children?
01:49:20.820 That's not the only thing.
01:49:21.680 I'm not saying that.
01:49:22.660 But, but okay.
01:49:23.640 10 things like that does not establish him.
01:49:26.080 like bro everybody has like shifty shit they've done and they've got they've moved in fucking
01:49:31.600 mysterious ways it doesn't point it doesn't prove that because you were acting shifty
01:49:37.020 granting that he even did i'm not familiar with what you're presenting it does not prove that
01:49:42.540 he's the one who killed the three children how about this you know the exercise bands that were
01:49:46.600 used they were his and it has his fingerprints on it and the knot that was used only he knew how to
01:49:51.740 do it. And that's, they brought that up in court. And what, how do you have, what? Okay. He's the
01:49:57.520 only one on the stand for this one. So I, you can look at the videos. He's the only one who knows
01:50:03.380 how to tie. They call it a sailor's knot. And he was only a question. Um, do you have, have you
01:50:09.500 ever had roommates? Yes. Did you guys ever share utensils? Um, not really. Do you think it's
01:50:16.400 possible in a like situation when you're living with a, like in a family, there's a wife, a husband
01:50:21.500 and kids that they would like for example touch all of them touch a kitchen knife no yes but the
01:50:27.900 exercise so just didn't use them he would do the marathon runs the 5k runs and that's what he knows
01:50:33.720 how to tie it because he has to tie a certain way what how would that establish okay so what does
01:50:39.720 that have anything oh my god they brought that on the thing yeah but that almost when they put
01:50:43.820 them on stand your your claim your claim that well they were his exercise bands and he used them and
01:50:48.400 his DNA was found on them well that would almost seem like that would bolster my position of course
01:50:53.740 his DNA is going to be on it because it was a shared household and he was using them yeah but
01:50:59.560 why was her DNA not there and the knots were the specific ones he did on himself when he do the 5k
01:51:04.780 runs there are evidence pointing towards her but you guys aren't looking at the other evidence that
01:51:08.920 are questionable it's more like nitpicking on him at this point what is that's what it seems like
01:51:13.960 no but they put him on the stand and they genuinely ask because that's a very special
01:51:17.340 knot not everyone knows how to do it i don't know how to do it what if she covered her hands and
01:51:21.020 used the bands anyway and also she is a nurse so she has to know some form of knot tying no no i
01:51:27.220 know that that knot tying they don't know only surgical people know they brought that up on the
01:51:32.660 stand that's a really good point because they brought that up and only people who are who work
01:51:37.340 in a surgical area would know how to do those knots and it gets more deeper than that the way
01:51:42.360 he knows that is because with his current wife she's in the surgery side so he was cheating on
01:51:48.820 her that's what they brought up because he took her to Costa Rica 16 days after everything happened
01:51:55.640 and then he got married to her so do you guys think about that does that not look a little
01:52:00.220 you guys could get married but didn't she say I mean she did it like you're trying to create no
01:52:06.220 she did say it recently she came back to and she was like saying she doesn't even remember
01:52:10.040 Okay, so you're saying she's lying about doing it?
01:52:13.900 No, no, she said she did it because everyone was telling her.
01:52:17.000 So she said, yeah, I did it because that's what it looks like.
01:52:20.860 It didn't say that online.
01:52:22.280 No, not.
01:52:23.500 Did she know that there was a mistress?
01:52:25.960 No, they just talked to her.
01:52:26.920 There was a recent interview with her, like what she said.
01:52:29.580 She said that she doesn't remember doing it, but it was like.
01:52:33.420 Okay, so if you don't remember doing it, that means you didn't do it.
01:52:37.860 And she was drugged up, but she wasn't on the drugs.
01:52:39.460 Answer this, answer this.
01:52:40.740 If you don't remember committing a crime, or you say that anyways, it means you didn't do it?
01:52:49.460 No, that's not what that, that's not what I'm saying.
01:52:52.840 It goes back to the drugs that I've been trying to explain to you guys.
01:52:55.940 So she's been prescribed all these medication, correct?
01:52:58.700 But she denied them and she didn't want to take them.
01:53:01.300 But Patrick has been holding on to all of them.
01:53:04.160 Who would hold on to your medication that's been prescribed to you?
01:53:07.300 medication that could put you to sleep medication that could drug you the kids were also drugged
01:53:12.320 by the way in the autopsy and she was drugged too but she wasn't taking the meds that's why she was
01:53:16.920 having trouble sleeping because she didn't want to take the medication and that's what they say
01:53:20.720 she didn't show signs of psychosis but i'm saying there's more evidence but there's two i'm just
01:53:26.840 saying you guys have to look at it from a different angle but you really want to look at it from just
01:53:30.420 straight away and that's what like i have an open mind i see the evidence pointing towards him and
01:53:36.140 evidence making her look bad too. Wait a second. Hold on. Wait, wait. I'm curious. So do you think
01:53:43.460 she was set up by the system? What do you mean? The system. Like the justice system? Yeah. Was
01:53:50.900 she set up? No. I think they're doing a trial and everything. They're doing everything right.
01:53:56.940 They're presenting all the evidence. I don't think she's being set up by the system. They're
01:54:00.800 taking they're doing protocol you know what's strange to me is um so actually wait i'm not
01:54:10.640 going to go there um oh boy um okay what's the evidence that patrick clancy any other
01:54:19.840 evidence that patrick clancy did this just the medication the secret swap that he kept from
01:54:26.980 them they're already talking about that they're trying to figure that out i don't know anything
01:54:30.000 more and then
01:54:31.900 for the they have
01:54:33.980 security cameras like the nanny cams
01:54:35.980 in the rooms and only he had
01:54:37.980 access to them like the
01:54:39.900 password and everything and somehow
01:54:41.860 during that time that he was gone
01:54:44.020 it was all turned off
01:54:46.080 only specifically that time
01:54:47.680 that time frame
01:54:49.340 and it was turned back on after
01:54:51.860 so they were also
01:54:53.900 talking about that and her Apple watch
01:54:55.780 her body temperature being 89 degrees
01:54:57.900 sorry
01:54:59.860 Oh, sorry. I was just going to ask, is there any way that she could know about the mistress and have a motive?
01:55:06.980 She didn't know.
01:55:07.960 Okay.
01:55:08.220 Yeah. She had no idea, actually.
01:55:10.800 And the mistress looks just like her. They look like twins. It's crazy.
01:55:16.500 Okay. We have some chats here. Could I have you read the chats?
01:55:22.940 Oh, God.
01:55:24.660 Chair three, you are a dumbass defending a...
01:55:28.600 Kid murderer.
01:55:29.860 kid murder. Oh, that's some interesting slang. Men's standards for women are now set so low
01:55:36.040 to just don't murder kids sad. All right. Actually, religious thing for the soup chat.
01:55:43.920 Can you read this? I live with depression and anxiety. Been through a divorce and other stuff
01:55:48.940 in my life. I can tell you now that getting away does not mean lack of remorse. I've done it.
01:55:54.480 We all done it. I live with harm, OCD. Stop giving her an excuse to kill. I'm not saying
01:55:59.800 that he went away he went away with a woman that he was cheating on her with and then he married
01:56:03.140 her it was two but what okay 16 days you get married like that but how does that prove anything
01:56:08.440 that that doesn't no but i'm not saying that proves i'm talking about the medication and
01:56:12.880 those other things that are the why bring up that's just behavior behavior pattern is important
01:56:17.100 it's not well hold on somebody could be a scumbag a jerk an asshole you can be cheating on your
01:56:22.980 spouse it doesn't mean you've committed the crime like if you somebody close to you has been
01:56:28.540 murdered doesn't mean even if you're being a dickhead that you committed the crime that's
01:56:32.100 why there's profilers and behavior is one of the biggest things that you use to catch serial killers
01:56:36.260 and patterns and signature about the astrology angle what do you mean she said people on tiktok
01:56:43.820 are saying that uh because she's like is she a leo yeah i know about that that's not valid i'm
01:56:50.620 talking about like behavior which is an actual thing psychology and that plays a really big role
01:56:54.880 And that's how they're able to catch serial killers
01:56:56.920 Because of behavior patterns
01:56:59.220 And signature moves
01:57:00.680 That people leave behind
01:57:01.840 And his signature move was the knot
01:57:03.220 Signature move?
01:57:06.100 Like he was a WWE wrestler
01:57:08.820 He had rock bottom
01:57:11.080 It's their niche
01:57:12.880 That's the best way to put it
01:57:14.040 His is the knots because he's a 5k runner
01:57:17.440 That's the way you put it in a category
01:57:19.700 Wait hold on
01:57:21.220 Is it possible
01:57:22.100 But she doesn't know how to do them
01:57:23.740 how do you know she doesn't know because how do we know that they have they they probably will put
01:57:27.880 her on the that's a really good question thank you but they'll probably um what they do usually
01:57:32.320 if they will test it they'll give her a rope and to see if she's able to do it but what the way it
01:57:36.880 was done it was someone who was um wait wait how would that she could just fake it yeah she could
01:57:41.480 yeah i don't know how to do it no but wait wait hold on so let's say exactly that's like telling
01:57:45.580 the murderer like oh my god he didn't like what makes you think he did it just because he acts
01:57:49.560 like that, and then they actually get convicted
01:57:51.680 later on, but that question
01:57:53.180 is really kind of
01:57:55.040 not valid. I don't know what you're saying.
01:57:57.520 Why don't you fake it? You can't lie under oath.
01:57:59.660 You have to do what you... Oh, wait, wait, wait.
01:58:01.280 You can't lie under oath. Wait, wait, wait. Nobody
01:58:03.220 has, in a court proceeding
01:58:05.380 where their life, like, they could be
01:58:07.220 imprisoned for the rest of their life, nobody's
01:58:09.340 ever lied under oath. By the way, I don't
01:58:11.380 believe she testified. Did she testify?
01:58:14.040 I, no. Usually, like,
01:58:15.300 I'm pretty sure if you're a criminal defendant,
01:58:17.440 if your lawyer is worth
01:58:19.120 fucking anything
01:58:20.440 you do not take the stand as a criminal
01:58:23.380 defendant. She didn't take the stand that's what I'm saying
01:58:25.400 Right but so you're saying
01:58:27.500 she's under oath but in what
01:58:29.420 context are you referring to? No I'm saying the information
01:58:31.440 that she gave like you know
01:58:33.240 like when people get. Where is this coming from
01:58:35.460 she didn't know how to tie the
01:58:36.980 thing. They just said she wouldn't know
01:58:39.460 because that wasn't her thing
01:58:41.400 she was a nurse and he was the 5k running
01:58:43.360 with the photos they have of him when they
01:58:45.380 showed. Wait hold on
01:58:46.680 But, like, say you're a professional skateboarder and you're dating a chick who's never skateboarded.
01:58:50.920 But, like, every once in a while you take your girlfriend skateboarding.
01:58:54.140 Wouldn't you show your girlfriend, like, okay, here's how you, like, push on a skateboard and here's how you stand.
01:58:59.480 So it's plausible if you're, like, this is your spouse and you have three kids together and you sometimes do activities together.
01:59:05.120 And she's, like, maybe fucking ten years ago.
01:59:07.280 Hey, babe, five years ago.
01:59:08.580 Hey, I want to try your little band exercises or whatever.
01:59:12.140 It's completely plausible.
01:59:13.860 It's kind of completely irrelevant.
01:59:15.540 But it's completely plausible that he showed her how to do the thing.
01:59:19.360 Also, it's like, what kind of crazy Boy Scout loop was she really tied?
01:59:24.620 It's called the Sailor Knot.
01:59:26.320 Sailor Knot.
01:59:27.100 Sailor Knot.
01:59:27.660 And it's the only one he would know how to do.
01:59:29.800 But think about it like this, guys.
01:59:31.180 So if you're in court and you're trying to figure out evidence, would you say, oh, the nurse definitely did the Sailor Knot.
01:59:37.420 Or the person who actually has been doing it and there's evidence proof of having it.
01:59:41.720 And those are his runner beans.
01:59:43.580 Okay, hold on.
01:59:44.400 Crazy Eyes has no idea what she's saying.
01:59:47.080 Hold on.
01:59:47.600 He and his current wife didn't meet until 1.5 years after she went to jail.
01:59:52.700 Even still, dating while legally separated is also legal.
01:59:57.100 Fucked art.
01:59:58.620 They went to Costa Rica 16 days, but they got married later on.
02:00:03.440 But how is that evidence?
02:00:04.320 Wait, it's okay.
02:00:06.040 Do you know her name?
02:00:07.520 I'll fact check it.
02:00:08.840 Yeah.
02:00:09.120 I don't know her name.
02:00:10.940 Machu Picchu donated $100.
02:00:13.080 Just a man hater stopped trying to present this with some legal authority.
02:00:19.080 The second you said 16 days later with a mistress just show its regurgitated TikTok hearsay,
02:00:25.420 it was an all-trails revolt.
02:00:27.840 They talked about it in the court because they were saying,
02:00:30.380 oh, so you went for a trip 16 days after, like, to Costa Rica.
02:00:34.100 Where do you see the women?
02:00:35.660 Where do you see the women?
02:00:37.200 And also people could be avoided.
02:00:39.740 Wait, wait, wait.
02:00:40.740 C.S.S. $3,733 donated $100.
02:00:46.140 C.S. acts like an authority till presented counterpoints.
02:00:49.620 Then she appeals to authority.
02:00:51.800 E.A., do your research.
02:00:53.860 She subjects her position to single variable fallacy arguments.
02:00:57.880 Okay, so...
02:00:58.580 She's ruining the pot.
02:00:59.840 Thank you, C.S.
02:01:01.940 I'm looking here.
02:01:02.620 Patrick Clancy began dating Dr. Rachel Dannis in early 2024, roughly one year after the January 2023 tragedy.
02:01:10.740 Now, look, I'll be fair.
02:01:12.020 Maybe he was dating somebody else after.
02:01:13.560 So you said went on vacation with a woman like 14 days after?
02:01:20.520 16 days.
02:01:22.300 Okay.
02:01:22.720 That's what they said in the court video.
02:01:24.760 Did they plan it like on purpose to go together?
02:01:27.720 I don't know that far.
02:01:29.240 Wait.
02:01:30.200 When was the flight booked?
02:01:32.920 Wait, hold on.
02:01:34.540 It says that rumor is completely false.
02:01:36.600 There's no record or evidence that Patrick Clancy went on vacation.
02:01:40.740 with any woman for i wrote 14 days but i don't know costa rica 5k run okay patrick
02:01:47.300 so did patrick clancy go to costa rica like a trip i'm pretty sure shortly after the killing
02:01:55.060 trip 16 days after he went on a trip uh he traveled to costa rica 20 days after his children's
02:02:03.380 funerals um uh did he go with a woman companion they said they there was pictures of him with a
02:02:13.360 woman but they didn't clarify who no patrick clancy did not travel with a woman companion
02:02:18.680 he took the trip entirely alone so over there i didn't say she flew with her they there was
02:02:25.080 pictures okay what did he meet a woman while there but regardless that's not what i'm saying
02:02:33.640 that's the evidence that's just behavior there is no evidence wait there is no evidence or record
02:02:39.180 that patrick clancy met a romantic partner while traveling in costa rica there was a selfie that
02:02:44.700 was represented in the court but i'm saying that's just behavior the most things i was just
02:02:50.140 talking about is the medication but you're trying to establish cvs the actual important
02:02:54.360 Okay, but you're trying to establish all these suspicious things add up, including the supposed, now he didn't go with a girlfriend.
02:03:04.880 You claimed he went 14 days later.
02:03:07.080 Well, I didn't know what she looks like.
02:03:08.420 It just looked like he was with a romantic partner.
02:03:10.680 I thought that might be the same person.
02:03:11.960 But I'm Googling this.
02:03:14.580 How about this?
02:03:15.320 Here, to be fair, normally I don't do this.
02:03:18.160 Tiffany, give her her phone, and you can Google something.
02:03:22.500 Or you know what?
02:03:23.340 tell me what to google and i will google what you want me to google it was on they have the
02:03:29.120 live streams for the court and then they'll but there would have to be like just a photo or here
02:03:35.000 guys really quick ten dollar display hundred dollar tts instant tts um tell me what to google
02:03:40.080 i'll type it in exactly as you want i can't specifically remember patrick clancy costa rica
02:03:45.820 on a trip so is it your position to costa rica there's photos okay patrick clancy
02:03:52.760 costa rica photos and i think he ran a 5k and that's a lot of people go to 5ks together and
02:03:59.240 they meet there yeah that's what i yeah i just maybe the photo was like exactly i didn't know
02:04:03.520 exactly what the photo was but i'm saying i assumed connected like because he got married
02:04:07.340 that might have been the same girl that's all i said that wasn't like my biggest evidence my
02:04:11.680 evidence i've been talking about the medication him not saying the full story the timeline even
02:04:16.500 chad gp told you the timeline didn't add up and that's what they're questioning that's not what
02:04:19.620 that was saying but okay no it did the prosecutors they were talking about how there was like a little
02:04:24.160 gap in between so that's all i've been saying but i was just explaining behavior pattern where how
02:04:29.900 it may look because some things may look like a certain way and that might not be true but i'm
02:04:34.880 just saying that what i what i've been seeing kind of like analyzed i'm sorry to interject here
02:04:42.400 okay so 16 days after his children's death i know i was off by a couple of days the the false fact
02:04:50.220 if it was 16 days after his children's deaths and he still went on a cruise that was pre-planned yes
02:04:55.200 it looks iffy but everyone has their own ways to grieve exactly what i was saying it looks 20 days
02:05:00.700 after his children's funeral though is definitely reasonable time to grieve for any person i think
02:05:08.300 personally just they didn't mention you also i was sure but okay so i googled the claims about
02:05:15.400 the costa rica photos i asked if there were any photos with a woman from this trip and it says
02:05:20.400 there are no photos of patrick clancy with a woman from his february 2023 costa rica trip
02:05:26.700 did you search up the 5k run with him with the bands that's where i think that's when the selfie
02:05:33.280 So he, okay, there's a viral screenshot of he did a review for a Costa Rica hiking path,
02:05:41.700 and it showed a small thumbnail image in the corner, but there's no definitive evidence.
02:05:50.280 CSS 3,733 donated $100.
02:05:55.620 C3 asserts conjecture as evidence slash fact yet dismisses the fact that the killer confessed.
02:06:01.700 Also, have these therapy speak women never heard of a trauma bond?
02:06:06.080 His new wife helped him out of a nightmare.
02:06:09.080 Right, so...
02:06:09.480 See, that's a really good point, too.
02:06:11.160 And that's what I'm saying.
02:06:12.180 Look at a different angle.
02:06:13.240 I can see that, and I can see what you're saying.
02:06:15.420 But I'll just share...
02:06:16.180 You think she didn't do it?
02:06:18.060 No, I said it's all alleged right now.
02:06:20.180 It is all alleged.
02:06:21.520 Case is closed.
02:06:22.260 But then it would also, whatever you're alleging, whatever you're alleging would have to be the
02:06:28.400 case for patrick clancy who the prosecution the police did not find any uh even like the the hold
02:06:36.840 on to arrest somebody it's a lower burden than like beyond a reasonable doubt like that's to
02:06:41.720 get the conviction but just to arrest somebody it's like um what's the uh the the uh i'm blanking
02:06:48.740 on the term maybe somebody in the chat just to get an arrest what is the burden of evidence
02:06:53.020 for that it's um suspicion reasonable cause reasonable suspicion um no reasonable doubts
02:06:58.720 to get the conviction uh suspicion i thought i think it's probable cause in this case the police
02:07:06.980 the prosecutors they found nothing that would uh inculpate patrick uh or that's his name right
02:07:15.860 patrick yeah patrick i don't know why there's no probable cause um there's alibi there's like
02:07:23.380 robust evidence she did it there's no significant evidence that it's just like actually crazy
02:07:29.180 it's actually crazy and like even if he took a photo with even if he was in costa rica fucking
02:07:36.820 motorboating a chick with the biggest titties you've ever fucking seen and he was had fucking
02:07:41.520 margaritas and a bunch of fucking girly drinks and he was pounding back early drinks and he was
02:07:46.720 motorboating some fucking costa rican whores it would not establish that patrick clancy murdered
02:07:53.460 the children i would even argue that if you've gone through something super stressful and by
02:07:58.540 the way there's been a lot of eyeballs on this case this is major public i would want to like
02:08:03.740 get i would want to leave like people why what's one of the big reasons people go on vacation
02:08:09.060 stress relief get away you know oh you had you had a rough fucking three months at work
02:08:14.500 okay you go like so i don't understand his three kids were killed his wife is a fucking lunatic
02:08:20.820 murderer there's publicity there's media on this case why is it peculiar that somebody in this
02:08:29.080 situation would want to go to fucking costa rica also um just some vacation it is still alleged
02:08:35.960 and I was just sharing my opinion, my side of things. Wait, wait, answer, okay, answer me.
02:08:40.720 Do you think that it is strange for somebody who's just gone through like a major life stressor,
02:08:48.160 a traumatic event, is it peculiar for someone to go on vacation under those circumstances?
02:08:55.980 Like if someone you love died? Okay, here. Yeah, like say your family, like your mom died.
02:09:03.300 would it be weird for you to go on a vacation me personally i wouldn't go on a vacation
02:09:09.300 that would okay well that wouldn't oh my god for how long no like is okay let me ask it super
02:09:16.500 simple when people are going through like a really stressful period in their life
02:09:21.200 do people often travel as a means to get away oh yeah like kind of like a quiet place to
02:09:28.860 decompressed that's the word yeah
02:09:31.980 have you heard of the saying you should get away
02:09:37.020 never yeah like yeah yeah i've heard like like you should like take yourself on a trip
02:09:45.620 like that yeah i've heard that maybe you treat yourself you know you've gone through like a
02:09:51.380 difficult time maybe go somewhere warm where this took place in massachusetts right no yeah
02:09:56.940 in the middle of winter cold as fuck i don't want to be stuck inside the house where my fucking wife
02:10:02.980 just strangled her fucking three kids uh let me go to costa rica and get some sun and get some
02:10:09.240 some good weather and get try to cope with what the fuck just happened no yeah i was just pointing
02:10:15.480 that's correct a lot of people want to take getaways but i would just point out evidence
02:10:19.500 for like the one of the i think i forgot who it was the prosecutor someone that's related to this
02:10:25.760 bought his house and then he has a brother that works at the department i'm saying is he's very
02:10:30.680 close to this case and that's all i was saying there's suspicion and doubt and i was saying why
02:10:36.620 you know what anytime uh you know what anybody who is a brother sister uh wife spouse child
02:10:48.100 of anybody in law enforcement you may be guilty of a murder because you are related to
02:10:55.680 the prosecution or the police his brother did the call like he showed up but that's what i was
02:11:01.940 saying i wasn't saying just because you have someone in law enforcement again you're like
02:11:06.280 taking a little bit of something i say and just jump to a whole nother thing that's not what i
02:11:10.660 was saying that i was saying there's conflict of interest that's what it's called and that's
02:11:15.520 what i'm trying to say everything right now i'm saying is just alleged just other information
02:11:19.740 evidence that other people haven't seen uh hold on so oftentimes when you live in a small town
02:11:26.100 um so he's from the town of duxbury massachusetts uh the estimated population of approximately 16,500
02:11:35.300 residents so when you live i mean it's not like a town of like a thousand people 500 people but
02:11:43.140 it is a smaller town, smaller city. When you live in a smaller city, these are very interconnected
02:11:49.220 communities. Um, it's not like, you know, here in Santa Barbara, the population's like over a
02:11:54.500 hundred thousand. You go to LA, you're getting into the millions, New York city, you're in the
02:11:58.000 millions. So it's not like with impossible for your spouse to have committed a crime and you are
02:12:08.600 associated with law enforcement so your brother arrives on the scene yeah like it's not that is
02:12:14.860 not an impossibility you're not supposed to do that though because i um i have friends who are
02:12:20.060 in law enforcement you're not supposed to okay so even if they're let's okay let's grant that
02:12:25.600 there's a conflict of interest that did occur and that the police should have the police officer
02:12:30.560 should have recused himself and the prosecutor should have recused himself that still wouldn't
02:12:35.460 establish that she didn't murder the kids and that he did it exactly but I'm just saying there's
02:12:41.240 evidence I'm saying raising suspicion and doubt that's what I've been trying to say the whole time
02:12:45.200 that it kind of he does look suspicious allegedly she did kill the kids but I'm saying something's
02:12:52.140 just not right with him either now on the claim of the prosecutor buying his house I don't know who
02:13:00.080 he was just someone that's now in that area but so i just googled it uh the house was purchased
02:13:05.380 by michael phippen who is a former plymouth county assistant district attorney district attorney so
02:13:12.540 i don't unless it's your contention that the current prosecutor who is prosecuting the case
02:13:19.140 if he's the one who bought it the guy is a former prosecutor so he doesn't even work for the office
02:13:28.300 anymore so where's the conflict of interest connections and connections and connections
02:13:32.980 you know some things lead to another it's there's no active con wait he left the district attorney's
02:13:39.580 office in 2018 five years prior to the murder no yeah exactly but i would even look even if the
02:13:47.120 current prosecutor purchased the house which i i would agree that's kind of weird and a conflict
02:13:52.520 it still wouldn't establish that she didn't kill the kids and he did and that's not what i'm saying
02:13:58.000 again i'm saying why is this relevant information no it is relevant information for like if you
02:14:04.160 need information more just to put things together because other things lead to another
02:14:08.400 okay but i rest my case so i'm tired this is going back and forth well look it's just to me
02:14:15.920 it's just you bring up the the pro a prosecutor you said the prosecutor a prosecutor who this
02:14:24.600 murder went down at the end of 2023 this prosecutor who purchased the house left the
02:14:31.520 district attorney's office in 2018 that's like five years thank you but like what would what
02:14:39.300 would actually be wrong with that you want you introduced conflict of interest there is no
02:14:44.400 conflict of interest it's not a conflict of interest it's not a conflict of interest
02:14:48.940 The article underscore overtones donated $100.
02:14:52.940 She's bringing evidence to light that no one knows about because it's all online fake news.
02:14:58.620 She admitted to it.
02:14:59.900 All the actual evidence points to the mercy.
02:15:02.220 People who purchase houses are public records.
02:15:03.420 She did it. Stop the misinfo.
02:15:05.020 But see, tried to look it up and still it told.
02:15:08.980 No, because I was wondering why they didn't do enough investigation on the blood splatter and everything.
02:15:13.000 And the house was bought very quickly.
02:15:15.360 it was like
02:15:16.820 I forgot what they said
02:15:19.240 that when the house was bought
02:15:21.440 they lost
02:15:21.980 it was a word they used
02:15:24.620 like they couldn't do any more than the photos
02:15:27.340 they took at the crime scene before
02:15:28.900 because the person didn't want any more
02:15:31.320 investigation, they wanted the house
02:15:32.620 so that's why I brought it up
02:15:34.480 that's why I searched it up
02:15:36.120 on why they couldn't do any more
02:15:38.420 Do you still think that he's guilty though?
02:15:40.780 No, I'm not saying
02:15:41.700 Because you did start off saying that he's guilty
02:15:43.700 like i said that wrong like sorry english is my third language i didn't no no i never say he's
02:15:49.460 i'm saying suspicion suspicion and doubt is placed so he looks guilty that's what does lindsey clancy
02:15:58.200 look guilty yes she does as well i never said she doesn't i never said she doesn't i never said that
02:16:03.800 so you i never said those words i said he also looks suspicious and guilty
02:16:09.560 no you said that you said you don't think yeah but i never said she wasn't guilty she looks guilty
02:16:16.300 no i never because you specifically said when did i say she's not guilty like you said he framed her
02:16:22.940 no i said yeah he was guilty but i never said he drugged her and cut her ribs no but i said
02:16:27.960 i never said she wasn't guilty i'm saying he just something suspicious and there's doubt that's
02:16:33.140 been placed in my head from what i'm saying also really quick that's what i've been saying as to
02:16:37.160 As to the sale of the house, it took place in January, let's see, January 2024.
02:16:46.380 So that's basically a year after.
02:16:50.020 You know, it wasn't sold like a month later, two months later, three months later.
02:16:54.160 It was sold a year later.
02:16:56.500 Now, look, we have some things to react to related to this.
02:16:59.460 I want to get into like the other component here, which is the swarms, hundreds of thousands,
02:17:04.940 millions of women like you who are defending her who are attacking patrick who are propagating
02:17:11.960 misinformation and conspiracy theory nonsense um who are like it's weird that they're supporting
02:17:18.180 a woman who killed her three children i i thought killing kids was bad i didn't know
02:17:24.720 killing kids is bad i never supported that i was just saying but it's weird to support a woman
02:17:28.980 I was presenting other evidence that points towards him looking like placing suspicion and that which is an actual thing that's all I was bringing light to not saying oh like she's not guilty I'm saying he why are we not looking at him too don't lie I feel like you've been contradicting yourself I know it's recorded but I know what I said too don't lie everyone no no I didn't say she's not guilty but I said he might have done it
02:17:58.980 I said he might have done it.
02:18:01.020 Yes, I said that.
02:18:01.680 Everyone here didn't start with...
02:18:04.220 I think he did it.
02:18:05.500 That's what I said.
02:18:06.460 I never said she's not guilty.
02:18:08.100 I think...
02:18:08.600 So they're both guilty?
02:18:09.220 They both did it.
02:18:11.120 Suspicion and doubt is different.
02:18:13.060 It's like, suspicion and doubt is called more evidence.
02:18:15.720 No, you sound stupid.
02:18:17.040 Now you're going back.
02:18:17.920 You're going to school for criminology.
02:18:18.940 C1 slash C2, the popsicle competition needs to go to overtime.
02:18:23.580 C3, we hope your case rests in peace along with the children of the murderer you keep defending.
02:18:28.980 thank you css for what we're learning is just to always look at other angles and other evidence
02:18:37.920 for suspicion and doubt do you know but you guys are just right away guilty guilty do you know
02:18:42.940 what parsimony is like the law if something's parsimonious like you study right i haven't
02:18:47.880 gone to that yet that's what i'm learning in uci this is like the concept where the thing that
02:18:53.160 makes the most sense is usually the right answer if you're having to do mental gymnastics and doing
02:18:58.200 cartwheels and backflips to cherry pick random evidence and make it confirm and then throw out
02:19:02.520 everything else to make your case it's not a very parsimonious answer academically you could not
02:19:08.000 withhold this i know exactly what you're saying but that's not how it works in investigations
02:19:11.600 either they make billboards they make points what points to what and things like that so that doesn't
02:19:17.560 go with everything and you could ask anyone law enforcement some things need deeper investigation
02:19:21.380 sometimes you need to look at something that doesn't even make sense i agree with that i do
02:19:26.320 I will say that I don't work for a criminal court.
02:19:29.220 I actually work for a mental health court.
02:19:31.420 So I don't know what they do in the criminal courts.
02:19:33.720 Oh, I don't know what they do in the criminal courts.
02:19:35.740 I've never been able to sit in one.
02:19:37.840 But she already pled guilty and the crime is already committed.
02:19:43.440 So they're not really like, I understand what you're saying,
02:19:46.380 but I feel like more so like they're looking in the evidence of like,
02:19:49.620 it already happened.
02:19:50.540 So we're not trying to like accuse him right now.
02:19:53.160 We're trying to see if she's not mentally there.
02:19:55.340 Right now, they're doing a mental health trial.
02:19:58.540 And with Mr. Reddington, I forgot, because he, I think it was two days ago for the trial, he rested the case.
02:20:10.360 So there was no more witnesses or anything coming up.
02:20:13.680 But someone had asked if the case is going to be closed.
02:20:19.940 He said, not yet.
02:20:20.880 And that's why I was just going off the reasonable doubt and suspicion.
02:20:25.980 Correlation is not causation either.
02:20:28.300 Are you open to the fact that you could be wrong about 99% of what you've said?
02:20:32.960 Because I feel like you are a student, right?
02:20:36.900 Like I feel like you are learning, but you are not there yet.
02:20:40.400 And so what I feel like you're doing, instead of saying, and I could be wrong, you may not be defending this heifer for what she did.
02:20:48.280 you may just be taking part in an academic exchange because we're not understanding exactly
02:20:58.640 what you're saying. But I think that all you're saying is that doubt is wherever you look for it.
02:21:04.080 Because you said that you cared about the truth as well. And you didn't want people to be unfairly
02:21:08.720 prosecuted. But then you sat here and you unfairly prosecuted that man. And I just wanted to make
02:21:14.980 you aware of that no exactly and if i'm proven wrong then i learned something but you already
02:21:19.960 were because she is guilty okay i think you talk very disrespectfully i that's not what if i said
02:21:27.940 that is rude i guess i called you stupid that's rude but i'm just saying she i was guilty so she's
02:21:34.780 guilty she said she did it you're just going based off i don't know you're suspicion and doubt that
02:21:40.360 they're saying that so the reason they were talking about suspicion and doubt is if the
02:21:45.140 judge has any doubt he has the case will not be closed that's all I've been trying to say
02:21:50.500 just on an education side but I rest my case please thank you guys for listening
02:21:55.700 one quick thing I think I have a question that could perhaps cut through everything
02:22:10.360 they're going to go through their closing statements,
02:22:14.520 I believe on Monday.
02:22:16.440 I believe this coming week,
02:22:18.540 we don't know if it'll be Tuesday, Wednesday,
02:22:20.840 we will have a verdict from the jury.
02:22:23.880 If the jury comes back with a guilty verdict,
02:22:30.020 or otherwise,
02:22:32.720 maybe somebody in the chat can tell me.
02:22:37.040 Because maybe they're like,
02:22:39.020 not guilty by way of insanity but it still means she did it but she's insane so i'm not it's not
02:22:46.680 clear to me it goes to trial again let me hold on i i want to ask this question properly so no i
02:22:53.420 don't it wouldn't what is the jury is hold on what would the what would the um here i guess
02:23:09.600 to make it easier i don't know if this is what the jury is going to respond to um say the jury
02:23:15.340 comes back with a guilty verdict will you accept the guilty verdict if they went through all the
02:23:22.540 processes like the way they should then yes i was just talking about the reasonable doubt and
02:23:27.860 suspicion but okay if they go through the you're giving me a vague answer here if they go through
02:23:32.980 the process as they should this opens the sort of this vague door for you to be like well it was
02:23:39.880 corrupt and there was a conspiracy and they didn't do the do it the way they should so is it your
02:23:44.260 contention they're not currently doing it i'm saying they're doing everything as they're doing
02:23:47.760 the right thing so on wednesday or on tuesday or wednesday or thursday when that jury verdict
02:23:53.140 comes back and if it's if it's guilty will you accept that she's guilty yeah i'd accept it i'd
02:24:00.760 be like damn he was just suspicious so all this because he was suspicious yeah i was looking at
02:24:08.280 it from a different angle because that's how you're supposed to not everyone's like fully
02:24:11.260 out of the picture until they come to a verdict the defense has already agreed that she's guilty
02:24:17.660 of doing this it's just i i don't understand the prosecutor the defense she even says this i i don't
02:24:23.640 know i'm i was that's why i was talking about suspicion and doubt if there's doubt then there
02:24:29.440 continues to a whole different thing innocent until proven guilty is the way it's said for this
02:24:36.380 reason you can't go saying someone looks suspicious because of x and y there has to be physical but
02:24:44.400 But that was like my opinion from the proof that I saw.
02:24:47.560 I said, I think.
02:24:48.880 But that wasn't proof.
02:24:50.260 But no, that was evidence.
02:24:52.120 Where are you getting your evidence from?
02:24:53.940 So on the court thing, they'll play up the transcripts of everything they placed
02:24:57.340 and all the evidence Mr. Reddington prints out and shows.
02:25:01.780 Okay, so how did you get so many facts wrong then?
02:25:04.480 I didn't get it wrong.
02:25:05.380 Like you said 16 days.
02:25:06.860 That was very specific.
02:25:07.260 I mixed up the days.
02:25:08.180 And he didn't meet her.
02:25:09.640 Well, there's a lot of other things.
02:25:11.200 No, I got the days wrong.
02:25:13.040 Stop, stop, stop.
02:25:13.700 Underscore heart underscore ghost driver donated $100 to the ladies and gentlemen, if found guilty and you were the judge, what would your punishment be and why?
02:25:26.080 There were other things you got incorrect, like you were claiming that he was in Costa Rica with his new wife.
02:25:30.520 He was in Costa Rica with this picture of a girl and I thought that was his new wife.
02:25:33.560 I looked it up. There was no picture with a woman. He didn't even meet the wife until like a year and a half later. You were incorrect about that.
02:25:43.000 When I find it, I can send it to you.
02:25:44.500 Okay, you're going to send me some, like, SSRI wine mom on TikTok who's like, this is definitely true.
02:25:50.020 And she's fucking batshit insane.
02:25:51.620 No, like, it's actual.
02:25:52.760 I'll find it and I'll send it to you.
02:25:54.960 I Googled it.
02:25:56.000 There's no photo of him.
02:25:57.000 But again, I'm talking about suspicion, doubt.
02:25:58.920 There's no photo.
02:25:59.400 Like, it's an education thing that I was sharing, like, a different angle.
02:26:03.060 But you were incorrect about the facts of even his Costa Rica trip.
02:26:05.980 I messed up the dates.
02:26:06.900 Bro, I'm not talking about the dates.
02:26:09.220 I think it's fair to be like, I'm not going to get down on you.
02:26:12.580 okay you said 14 or 16 and it was 20 that's that's not a big mistake the big mistake is you
02:26:19.080 claim that there was a girl he went on the trip with a woman oh no actually uh he met a woman
02:26:23.740 there oh no actually there's no proof that even met a woman even in Costa Rica you keep shifting
02:26:29.620 you keep shifting you keep shifting the goalposts you keep shifting the goalposts you'll hear me say
02:26:35.240 that he was in Costa Rica with a woman I didn't say he flew out with a woman you did say I do
02:26:39.900 believe you said that he went on a trip with
02:26:41.960 a woman. He was with a woman
02:26:43.880 in Costa Rica. That's what I said.
02:26:46.380 But that was just an
02:26:47.900 observation of behavior,
02:26:50.460 not something that would make him guilty.
02:26:51.980 There's no evidence that he was
02:26:53.740 on a Costa Rica trip with
02:26:55.900 the woman, whether he met her there, whether
02:26:57.860 she traveled with him. There's no proof
02:26:59.920 of that whatsoever. He did a 5K and there was
02:27:01.600 photos from that 5K.
02:27:04.120 Do sometimes women run
02:27:05.940 5K? I forgot what someone said. They just met
02:27:07.740 each other. Wait, wait. Even
02:27:09.460 granting have you ever like did you do track in high school yeah i did a little bit were there
02:27:15.640 boys and girls on the track team yes but is it possible like even granting your ridiculous
02:27:21.220 scenario where there's a 5k run and so you're saying he went on a 5k run with a group of people
02:27:26.880 in costa rica and there there was like a woman there and he took a photo with a woman this would
02:27:30.980 establish nothing like have you fucked every single guy you took a photo with no okay this
02:27:36.140 wouldn't even establish there was any romantic connection even if you took a photo with a woman
02:27:39.940 holy shit i've taken i wish i could every woman i've taken a photo with i could actually hold
02:27:45.360 on let me think about that there's definitely some women i've taken photos with i definitely
02:27:49.340 didn't want to fuck or wait hold on that doesn't make sense wouldn't have wouldn't want to fuck
02:27:54.960 in any case uh maybe it would be nice maybe it'd be not so nice but just because you take a photo
02:28:00.300 with a woman does not establish that there was even a romantic connection or anything in this
02:28:03.800 case i was just doing like a i wasn't saying that he fucked her i was just saying he was
02:28:09.360 in costa rica there was a photo of him with a woman and he did a 5k run like those are just
02:28:13.980 information there's a photo okay the goalposts keep shifting so there was a selfie like of them
02:28:19.560 in costa rica you know what i'm gonna accuse you of cheating and you know what i've seen photos
02:28:23.440 of you at raves and there's men in the background of some of these photos you're cheating on your
02:28:28.860 fucking boyfriend aren't you my boyfriend was whoa this is really suspicious i think you murder
02:28:32.760 people oh no no but that's so different yes on your instagram i've seen you take photos with
02:28:38.880 other men therefore you definitely are like the uh i was gonna say who's the but that's different
02:28:43.560 i'm saying like there's nothing else connecting to it but there was other stuff connecting to this
02:28:47.720 but at the end of the day all right let's get into the reacts we gotta get into the reacts
02:28:51.540 all right tiffany do you have the very first one yeah all right let's see uh pull up the first one
02:28:57.080 now the other big thing here is so this was last week i believe on thursday um and you can just
02:29:02.580 hit play on this yeah go ahead hit play um so it's fine i don't think there's music
02:29:09.560 this is at the no this is at the courthouse
02:29:14.700 this is at the courthouse these are and they women who show up in pink
02:29:21.180 and they're at the yes at the courthouse that's her driving by in the car and they're cheering for
02:29:26.940 her cheering it's not just i have questions about the case they're like cheering for her
02:29:32.240 And this is hundreds of women
02:29:35.400 Hundreds of women
02:29:36.500 Going to defend and support a woman
02:29:38.960 Who strangled her three children to death
02:29:41.700 I wouldn't do that
02:29:42.400 What is the reason to cheer for her?
02:29:44.760 Because they're retarded
02:29:46.040 I don't know what they're doing
02:29:47.640 But I would never do that
02:29:49.240 You're real close
02:29:51.260 You're pretty close
02:29:52.740 Wait, say that again, Laura
02:29:54.140 I think what you're doing is worse
02:29:55.820 You're blasting it online right now
02:29:58.580 Speak straight
02:29:59.480 I was just sharing some things other people were thinking
02:30:02.220 so what you think you were sharing things that you were thinking hold on there are a lot of
02:30:06.460 people that actually think this too you're all like kind of slow no we're not slow we're just
02:30:11.320 sharing our perspective but you're close-minded speak straight laura face straight face straight
02:30:16.440 say what you have to say you're slow but thank you guys for listening to me and not calling me
02:30:22.040 names i was just sharing and giving me your opinions i really care about that thank you
02:30:27.520 Tiffany, let's do the next one.
02:30:30.600 Here, let me, I'll pull up the chat.
02:30:32.220 It's below the threshold, but OutKast Cycles, thank you for the $50 soup chat, man, appreciate it.
02:30:38.340 We're only doing $99 TTS, and if somebody does do it through soup chat, we'll read it at the $99 threshold.
02:30:45.840 Thank you, man, appreciate it, though.
02:30:46.740 Thank you for the soup chat.
02:30:48.380 EW, appreciate it.
02:30:50.220 Thank you for the soup chat, man.
02:30:51.260 Okay. Guys, $10 display, $100 TTS, $10 display, $100 TTS if you want to get a message. TTS is
02:30:59.240 instant, by the way. All right, Tiffany, do you have the next thing? All right, full screen play.
02:31:05.340 And you're bringing a baby. All right. So this is a moment of silence with all the crazy
02:31:13.680 wine moms and their heart heart just she murdered three kids heart
02:31:20.280 heart murdered three kids we we love you lindsey we support you
02:31:27.280 it looks like it looks like a psyop when it's like okay uh tiffany next
02:31:32.540 all right we have the next one uh this is another one go ahead play
02:31:39.260 Thank you!
02:31:42.280 Thank you!
02:31:43.360 Somebody said thank you?
02:31:44.480 Yeah.
02:31:45.060 Thank you!
02:31:45.740 Wow.
02:31:46.760 Thank you!
02:31:47.880 Thank you!
02:31:49.580 Crying!
02:31:51.560 Okay, pause it.
02:31:53.200 Tab over to the next.
02:31:56.480 The coffee.
02:31:57.640 Just there's more.
02:31:58.800 Tab over next.
02:32:01.340 Scroll up.
02:32:02.400 Oh, this is kind of, I don't know, make it bigger a little bit.
02:32:05.340 Scroll.
02:32:05.860 Sorry.
02:32:06.180 It's okay.
02:32:06.640 uh apparently wait lifetime number of sexual partners on postpartum depression
02:32:15.620 now i know look it's a dating conversation so i included this uh apparently uh the more sexual
02:32:22.560 partners you've had the greater likelihood of getting postpartum depression so now this is a
02:32:27.560 whole new addition to the body count discourse not only is it like pair bonding infidelity
02:32:34.920 uh, marriage satisfaction or dissatisfaction, uh, chance of divorce. Now we have to add
02:32:44.880 your chance of postpartum depression is higher. If you've had the more sexual partners you've had.
02:32:50.700 So if you don't want your kids to get murked, uh, next, pull it up, pull it back up.
02:32:56.640 uh this is just like a cartoon i guess uh free oh uh zoom it out it's a bit too big
02:33:05.300 uh free lindsey and then the kids should we be concerned next
02:33:09.240 uh so this is uh wait scroll back up scroll back up that's casey anthony and she
02:33:16.380 oh casey anthony she killed her kid i guess right or was she the was she the one who got
02:33:23.600 let off and she's guilty yes she's the liar so click on the photo i don't know how she got away
02:33:29.640 with it so she uh she posted the same thing did like the little ukraine flag shit uh i stand with
02:33:36.240 lindsey clancy interesting how that uh the the in good company tab over next tab over next
02:33:44.160 okay um is this a video oh right scroll up scroll up uh so 30 000 fans have raised over
02:33:54.340 1 million for lindsey clancy and her family and uh click on the photo i guess family
02:34:00.380 she murdered them all and then oh it's a video okay so maybe so over uh and this is from like
02:34:09.500 a day or two ago so it's probably higher but it she raised over a million over a million dollars
02:34:14.680 was raised nicole clausen's 5 000 janet piesco five they're they're don't crazy it's crazy um
02:34:21.960 let's go to the next tab over to the next thing is that an ai picture of her in a wheelchair okay
02:34:29.360 uh make it bigger please like two three yeah uh let me have you read this unpopular opinion but
02:34:37.900 Blaming a crime on postpartum psychosis is like a man blaming his testosterone for rape.
02:34:43.160 Hormones aren't an excuse for horrific acts.
02:34:46.560 The victims are three innocent babies.
02:34:49.480 Enough of this crap.
02:34:50.780 Any thoughts from anybody on that?
02:34:52.760 Yeah.
02:34:54.060 I mean, people go insane.
02:34:55.620 Like, they kill people when they're insane.
02:34:57.900 So, I don't know if it's not like an excuse means it's okay.
02:35:00.840 But, like, it could be a reason if you, like, actually go insane.
02:35:03.200 The thing is, is like beyond just what's going on with the case itself is you have all these supporters and they're trying to, they're downplaying the severity of what happened or trying to sort of hand wave or make excuses for what she did.
02:35:18.620 And it's like, well, look, postpartum depression, that's a thing.
02:35:25.520 But...
02:35:26.080 I have to interject here.
02:35:27.540 If we do say, or if it comes out that psychosis was the problem and her husband was partially to blame for some odd reason out of the picture or whatnot, he hid her medication or fed it to her, what changes?
02:35:46.360 She's still going to be locked up tight in a loony bin because three children are dead.
02:35:52.160 Oh, yeah.
02:35:53.400 Okay, next, Tiffany.
02:35:55.520 Oh, hold on.
02:35:57.540 now donated $100.
02:35:59.960 Thank you for saying, IT
02:36:01.540 Chair 4, we really need to step
02:36:03.620 back and look at what's happening.
02:36:05.740 That is 1 billion percent a step
02:36:07.560 to divide us and do it quickly.
02:36:10.400 Yo,
02:36:11.120 I'm awake now. Thank you for that. Guys, as a
02:36:13.580 reminder, $10 display,
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02:36:38.680 I don't see it, but maybe you guys could.
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02:37:03.440 We talk about dating, but I will promise you I'm going to bring this in some roundabout way to be related to dating in a moment.
02:37:13.240 Also, debateuniversity.com.
02:37:16.360 If you want to learn how to become a master debater, debateuniversity.com.
02:37:22.000 Also, clown world for all this Lindsey Clancy stuff.
02:37:25.880 Okay.
02:37:26.400 Pull it back up.
02:37:27.080 we're gonna do more reacts uh you might have to zoom it out a bit uh young liberal women are
02:37:33.280 statistically the unhappiest and most mentally ill demographic in america uh okay i don't know why
02:37:38.920 okay whatever um next uh lindsey clancy slowly strangled her three young children
02:37:47.780 hero and role model to liberal white women okay um next i stand with lindsey
02:37:58.140 um yep next uh okay the four horsemen of the apocalypse war famine pestilence death
02:38:08.720 and you are liberal white women okay uh next i don't know where all these memes came from
02:38:15.680 you're gonna have to scroll that out and we're gonna go uh stop stop stop uh video tab on this
02:38:23.580 okay just
02:38:26.900 go ahead my new vetting process wait wait wait uh start from the beginning boost the audio all the
02:38:35.800 way you can just hold it down okay next my new vetting process for if i want to date a man
02:38:43.020 first date question I'm always going to be asking him is do you think that Lindsay Clancy should go
02:38:49.460 to jail for what she did and if that man says yes I'm getting up and walking out right then and
02:38:55.160 there I cannot spend the rest of my life with someone who thinks that that woman is guilty and
02:38:59.900 deserves jail my new okay so related to dating so and there's a few more reacts that we have
02:39:07.300 but she's saying that she's going on the first date with a guy do you think she belongs in jail
02:39:12.660 if the man says yes she walks away any thoughts any thoughts from anybody
02:39:18.880 it'll be hard to reproduce if she keeps doing that so it might be a win for us
02:39:25.660 um what's that it'll be hard for her to reproduce if she keeps walking away from men so it might be
02:39:33.180 a win for the rest of us i don't know she could get some she'll get some simp who be like you
02:39:39.640 to still hit but uh yeah that's interesting so that's the level of delusion that is going on
02:39:48.240 where yeah i like what she was saying oh yeah sorry for the side comment um but basically what
02:39:55.880 i said earlier was this i feel like it's kind of a psyop or something like it i'm sure it did
02:40:01.080 happen and i'm sure i really do think she murdered them but the the way that they're using inflating
02:40:07.000 this so like so immensely and like creating this division and now it's the whole postpartum thing
02:40:13.220 but that's not related to like a serial killer or someone that's like straight up just murdering
02:40:18.360 her kids like that i feel like that's not related to having postpartum depression whatsoever like
02:40:25.080 wait but hold on this wait i i'm not really understanding what you're putting down here so
02:40:31.880 who what side are you blaming for the psyop well i i'm kind of a conspiracy person but i feel like
02:40:39.620 it's just like a larger psyop of like creating this like inflating it into the news and like
02:40:44.820 making it such like a like a huge thing and like again like the misinformation the conspiracies
02:40:50.000 that are coming about what about it like it's it's becoming this huge discussion and this huge
02:40:57.780 political point now where what is the psyop though well whether i mean i guess you could
02:41:04.780 say this whole situation of how she clearly is guilty but then i think there is still other
02:41:11.800 things to it what like what okay so the fact that if she is a nurse and she slit her wrist
02:41:21.620 or incorrectly and she didn't end up dying she might have just like went on a like a serial
02:41:28.920 rampage and wasn't planning on killing herself what does that change i don't understand what
02:41:35.320 you're trying to allude to what does that change it doesn't it doesn't change anything are you
02:41:40.040 calling into we we spoke about this for two hours already are you calling into question that it's
02:41:45.460 possible she didn't do this no no no not at all i'm saying she did do this i'm saying like what
02:41:50.720 What is the slitting, what is that, how, what?
02:41:53.140 That postpartum.
02:41:54.300 Whether she actually tried to kill herself or she was trying to make it look like she killed herself.
02:42:00.280 What?
02:42:02.820 I'm sorry, I'm just not following.
02:42:04.660 I think she's trying to say she made it to look like she killed herself so she wouldn't.
02:42:08.140 What is the psyop, though?
02:42:09.520 She could do this insanity.
02:42:10.420 Like it's propaganda.
02:42:11.400 Propaganda, but yeah, that's what she's trying to.
02:42:13.060 So they're trying to divide us by amplifying the madness.
02:42:15.740 They're saying like, look, all these people are crazy and this is what's happening to the world.
02:42:19.640 and they're trying to divide us
02:42:21.060 and brainwash us and freak us out.
02:42:24.480 They're forcing a narrative
02:42:26.060 on us to divide us
02:42:27.800 is what you're saying.
02:42:28.460 Yes, yes, yes.
02:42:30.120 That's why I liked her.
02:42:32.640 That makes more sense.
02:42:34.180 Okay, who is the perpetrator of the PSYOP?
02:42:38.260 China.
02:42:40.060 I mean, like, some third party
02:42:42.860 we don't know is right.
02:42:44.400 I mean, I know that's a conspiracy.
02:42:46.560 I believe this is an entirely
02:42:48.200 This is a grassroots female phenomenon where women have a massive level of in-group bias for women.
02:42:57.600 So women will go to hell and back to try to defend other women.
02:43:01.200 There's no PSYOP.
02:43:03.160 The division that's being created is because a bunch of mostly retarded women are going and saying, like being conspiratards, and saying that Patrick is actually the one who did it.
02:43:16.780 She's innocent.
02:43:17.440 We need to support this woman, and it's so fucking – it's crazy we're even having the conversation.
02:43:23.460 It's so backwards that there are actually people who are cheering and clapping and trying to defend a woman who – there's overwhelming evidence she murdered her three children.
02:43:35.180 This woman is evil.
02:43:36.660 It's despicable what she's done.
02:43:38.800 Like killing your own children is up there in terms of pretty much the worst things that you could ever do.
02:43:44.800 um so there there is no psyop people are i believe that the pushback from the other side
02:43:53.980 is uh well deserved if we have that hundreds of thousands and millions of women just full-blown
02:44:01.800 being fucking retards i think it it's worthy being divisive and being like no you guys are
02:44:08.980 fucking misinformation machines you're liars you're fucking conspiratards you're the ones
02:44:15.580 being divisive by trying to like hand wave and make some sort of allowance or like oh my god
02:44:23.060 it's not there's this term suicidal empathy so it's basically like women are in favor of mass
02:44:28.900 immigration women are in favor of abortion women are in favor of like xyz thing that's a lot of
02:44:34.620 people believe is having massive negative ramifications for society. It's gone from
02:44:39.280 suicidal empathy, like, yeah, let's just let in millions of immigrants and just let them fuck
02:44:43.920 our economy, to it's now suicidal, or excuse me, homicidal empathy. You women have empathy for
02:44:52.060 fucking homicidal evil bitch. That's what's divisive. So the blowback, the pushback is not
02:45:00.560 a psyop it's well deserved
02:45:02.360 we need to stifle this retardation
02:45:04.860 in women as much as fucking
02:45:06.460 possible it's crazy to me that
02:45:08.520 we're going to do like oh
02:45:10.040 is she okay is it okay no
02:45:12.460 this woman Lindsay Clancy
02:45:14.480 is an evil bitch and her
02:45:16.580 supporters are evil bitches
02:45:18.440 point blank period they need to be
02:45:20.560 shut the fuck down
02:45:22.440 I know but the media entertains it
02:45:24.320 yeah I think I know
02:45:25.440 of course I disagree and I
02:45:28.620 think those women are crazy I
02:45:30.420 I was just pointing out how extreme it's becoming of, like, the fact that they're even, like, supporting her.
02:45:36.500 And then, obviously, there's, of course, a just backlash and then leading up to, like, this crazy news cycle.
02:45:43.860 It's not a psyop, though.
02:45:46.240 Women collectively, I don't know if it's fucking mass formation psychosis, have come.
02:45:53.040 It's grassroots in the following way.
02:45:54.740 women started questioning uh whether this woman is is uh not guilty if she's innocent
02:46:01.900 they want to blame the man who clearly did not commit these acts uh so it's it's not like oh
02:46:08.880 let's intentionally create some like no this is a grassroots thing that's like again i'm not saying
02:46:14.680 all women are doing this of course not but there's like a huge portion of women who are perpetuating
02:46:19.780 this like grassroots insanity also i had a follow-up with what you said were you talking
02:46:27.420 were you talking about how like the way she went about things it was like she's creating like
02:46:32.460 suspicion and doubt but she is guilty what you're trying to say it's just the news is dragging it
02:46:37.980 in a way yeah it's it's basically just increased the news would not be like honestly uh what she
02:46:44.760 did is wild but i think most of like the recent attention on this is not i mean this murder
02:46:51.540 happened i know the trial's going on right now but this murder happens back in 2020 uh 20 sorry
02:46:57.000 2022 2023 um the massive attention on this is now because you have ssri wine moms on tiktok
02:47:07.920 inventing evidence inventing nonsense conspiratards and like when you go on the defense to somebody
02:47:17.220 who's murdered three children and you start like having a support group and it's always
02:47:22.640 interesting um there's this term uh habristophilia this attraction to and you often see this with
02:47:30.280 male serial killers uh luigi mangioni like women have like some insane sexual attraction and
02:47:37.360 romantic attraction to like criminals which you typically don't see in the reverse like you don't
02:47:41.640 typically see men having like fanning over fucking female uh female um murderers and shit but that's
02:47:49.920 another topic uh yeah it's like i don't know the whole thing is crazy anyways i don't know i'm
02:47:56.040 losing my trade would you be sitting up here defending if it was a man who did this no that's
02:48:02.400 not what I said but I'm kind of tired of talking about it so well I could guarantee I mean I could
02:48:08.140 guarantee you I mean women will defend like Luigi Mangione I didn't defend him okay well I'm not
02:48:16.900 saying you did but there are definitely he has a fan club like there's there's literally I bet
02:48:23.880 these women like want to like marry this guy who's going to be behind bar hopefully hopefully
02:48:28.420 behind bars his entire fucking life I want to marry him and have his kids it's fucking
02:48:31.720 repulsive but it's just because he's like a looks max or well he's like attractive that's it yeah
02:48:37.080 he's attractive but they're also like insane leftist liberal women who's like oh wow he like
02:48:43.020 killed a ceo of a health care company and the health care companies have critics um okay let's
02:48:48.580 let's get through these uh reacts pull up the next thing okay so she was saying like you shouldn't
02:48:55.120 date. I actually think the reverse. So as a man, here, here's advice for men. And I'm not joking
02:49:03.160 about this. Any men watching this podcast right now, of which there are many thousands who are
02:49:07.440 watching, I need you guys to ask any woman you're currently dating or will be dating the following
02:49:14.240 question. What do you think of the Lindsay Clancy case? And then you could ask some follow-ups. Do
02:49:19.800 you support her? Do you think that she's guilty? You can ask these follow-ups. But what do you
02:49:24.540 think of the lindsey clancy case if she even hints at any level of support for lindsey clancy
02:49:31.120 this is a woman you dump immediately you do not you don't fuck her you don't do anything with her
02:49:36.500 uh it's just very dangerous look i'm not trying to have my kids murdered
02:49:40.460 uh by like a woman who's going to cope about uh you know this case uh go ahead let's pull it up
02:49:48.800 Tab over.
02:49:53.980 Oh.
02:49:55.660 Wait, is this, did you already tab over?
02:49:59.540 Okay, then next.
02:50:06.460 Notice how quick women went from it's okay to kill your baby if you were raped to it's okay to kill your baby if you were stressed.
02:50:14.060 Wow.
02:50:14.600 Oh, okay.
02:50:15.280 Next.
02:50:15.880 next maybe hitler had postpartum depression okay um
02:50:22.440 is anything i guess everything can be excused if you are postpartum like everything's okay right
02:50:31.180 um next uh there's a new same lindsey trend on tiktok with mothers filming themselves with
02:50:37.760 their children while saying they feel the same way as a woman who strangled this is disturbing
02:50:43.420 This is absolutely terrifying.
02:50:44.860 Go ahead and click that first video.
02:50:46.700 I am completely overwhelmed.
02:50:48.260 Pause, pause, pause.
02:50:49.780 Okay, lower the volume to like 50 or something.
02:50:54.420 Okay, go ahead, play it.
02:50:58.560 I am completely overwhelmed, trying to take care of the kids.
02:51:01.700 I'm drowning every day.
02:51:03.200 I feel guilty that I'm spending my family's money and not making any.
02:51:06.720 I feel like I spend way too much.
02:51:08.460 She wrote that, right?
02:51:09.640 Correct.
02:51:10.000 Me too, Lindsay.
02:51:12.040 Yes, keep playing.
02:51:14.960 No, it doesn't matter.
02:51:15.940 Not for this.
02:51:16.500 I'm terrified of Cal.
02:51:17.540 I'm getting sick.
02:51:18.380 He's a sick baby.
02:51:19.340 A sick baby is miserable.
02:51:20.580 He's sick now with a double ear infection.
02:51:22.620 Clearly has a bellyache.
02:51:24.300 It's miserable.
02:51:25.140 I feel like the other kids are going to get...
02:51:27.060 Next video?
02:51:27.900 Like, there's the arrow right there?
02:51:28.880 I'm completely overwhelmed, trying to take care of the kids.
02:51:30.740 I'm drowning every day.
02:51:31.980 Press pause.
02:51:32.420 I'm completely overwhelmed, trying to take care of the kids.
02:51:34.840 Pause.
02:51:35.900 God damn.
02:51:36.900 Go to the gear icon, please.
02:51:39.400 Gear icon.
02:51:40.600 on the video no dude gear icon on the video playback speed just put it at two
02:51:48.280 can you 1.75 is fine okay play
02:51:54.360 mute the audio i don't need it doesn't matter okay
02:52:00.000 all right same lindsey so there's a kid in the background and she wants to fucking murder her
02:52:06.920 own kid like this is this is like there's hundreds if not thousands of videos like this
02:52:11.540 where women with their kids same lindsey so same lindsey lindsey the woman who strangled her three
02:52:17.560 kids to death honestly these women should have cps called on them i genuinely think their kids
02:52:23.220 should be taken away i i'm sorry that's maybe that's extreme it just seems like what what is
02:52:31.620 she pouting about literally she's depressed she has postpartum she wants to kill her
02:52:36.680 all right x and then uh next okay you can put that you can put the audio back on you know that
02:52:43.560 was going tab over it's crazy all right if your wife or girlfriend is currently creating these
02:52:50.340 disturbing videos on tiktok you should take immediate steps here uh click on the video
02:52:54.460 Maybe she's doing baby things.
02:52:56.360 Click on the video.
02:52:57.620 I agree.
02:52:58.340 Okay, play.
02:53:02.420 Wow.
02:53:04.440 Okay, me too, Lindsay.
02:53:10.040 But I don't understand.
02:53:11.520 Like, what the fuck?
02:53:12.700 They're all smiling at it, and yet they say me too, Lindsay.
02:53:16.220 These are small, small babies.
02:53:19.180 Aw.
02:53:20.400 Dude, what the fuck?
02:53:20.880 These are all different women, by the way.
02:53:22.620 Me too, Lindsay.
02:53:24.460 She wrote that, right?
02:53:26.680 They're just complaining.
02:53:27.960 They don't want to be mothers.
02:53:29.320 They're just complaining at this point.
02:53:30.980 Literally.
02:53:32.500 Are these all viral videos?
02:53:33.860 This is too hard.
02:53:35.000 They're crying.
02:53:35.800 Like, okay.
02:53:36.320 Okay, tab over.
02:53:37.280 Next.
02:53:37.900 I don't think you...
02:53:38.760 Next.
02:53:39.260 Tab over.
02:53:39.740 I want to be the victim so bad without saying they just don't have...
02:53:42.540 Attention seeker.
02:53:43.100 Okay.
02:53:44.820 Female Lindsay Clancy supporter says it could be her who murders her own children.
02:53:48.380 Okay, click on the video.
02:53:50.200 One of my sister-in-laws.
02:53:51.220 Pause, pause, pause, pause.
02:53:52.680 Click on the video, video tab.
02:53:54.420 Video tab, video tab.
02:53:57.260 It's going to do that?
02:53:58.540 Just, okay, just press play.
02:54:01.000 One of my sister-in-laws, it could be one of my best friends,
02:54:03.700 and it could be me.
02:54:04.640 So I'm just here to support.
02:54:06.080 We are hearing her.
02:54:07.700 We see that she tried everything.
02:54:10.360 And I really do believe that she went into a state of psychosis.
02:54:14.240 It felt like the system failed her.
02:54:16.840 She was begging for help, but no one was there.
02:54:19.300 All right, tap it over.
02:54:20.660 You don't have to X out.
02:54:21.660 Can I just say, I'm tired of hearing them say the system failed her when she was on 12 different antipsychotic medications, and I'm pretty sure she didn't take a single one of them the way she should have.
02:54:31.360 Ambien and Valium, never, ever given it a second time.
02:54:34.760 Window tab.
02:54:37.820 Here, Tiffany, when we're on a video and you click the number pad, it's going to scrub the video forward.
02:54:44.700 Just click on the scenes so it doesn't do that.
02:54:47.320 Here just click forward in the click on the video and like no no no press play
02:54:52.480 And you can like just click along the bar to like skip forward a little bit
02:54:59.700 Just keep continuously skip forward
02:55:03.940 Imagine their kids seeing this when they grow up honest
02:55:08.200 Emancipated at 16 skip it. I was just a baby mom. Mom. What's this? Yeah, okay?
02:55:14.740 Next tab.
02:55:15.440 You don't have to exit out.
02:55:16.440 You can just next tab it.
02:55:17.500 You don't?
02:55:17.820 Okay.
02:55:21.260 All right.
02:55:22.220 I kind of get why Americans want to repeal the 19th Amendment now.
02:55:25.600 Click on the photo.
02:55:27.740 Wait.
02:55:28.280 Oh, my God.
02:55:29.280 Okay.
02:55:29.560 Mute the audio, please.
02:55:32.480 Bro.
02:55:33.060 Okay.
02:55:35.620 I don't go posting it.
02:55:38.140 Okay.
02:55:38.660 Her husband framed her for this horrible crime, and you cannot convince me.
02:55:41.780 Wait.
02:55:41.980 Wait.
02:55:42.280 Oh.
02:55:42.680 Wait.
02:55:43.060 Pause really quick.
02:55:43.620 Go back.
02:55:43.940 okay uh her husband framed her and this horrible crime and you cannot convince me otherwise
02:55:51.140 so these are the crazy tiktok ladies who are talking about this now this isn't just like a
02:55:58.740 video that has you know a thousand likes if you notice the likes it's nearly 200 000 it's 179
02:56:06.620 thousand likes five thousand comments good press play
02:56:09.800 here's a crazy theory he killed the fuck wait uh he killed the fucking kids and that man's voice
02:56:18.860 in her head was his okay just here just let it go it's fine just let it play the only evidence
02:56:24.360 that she did this is that he said she did that's not true lindsey clancy deserves wait um is there
02:56:30.640 audio wait just turn the audio on play to this lady lindsey clancy 124 likes because everybody
02:56:39.160 124 000 likes press play up lindsey clancy was a victim of a no you just
02:56:45.300 just let it play it's fine
02:56:49.900 and then her mother testified wearing a pink cardigan okay that's great okay check this out
02:56:58.080 That was really crazy.
02:56:59.820 Lindsay Clancy's birth chart.
02:57:02.340 Oh, boy.
02:57:04.060 Oh, fuck.
02:57:04.800 It's so crazy.
02:57:05.540 Click on scenes, video tab it.
02:57:07.480 It's so crazy.
02:57:08.660 In scenes, just click on video.
02:57:11.740 Okay, play.
02:57:12.860 Birth.
02:57:14.060 So, her son is self-known.
02:57:17.320 At least I didn't bring Zodiacs into this.
02:57:19.960 Okay?
02:57:21.040 I might be a little crazy, but not that crazy.
02:57:22.800 I'm proud of you.
02:57:23.540 Thank you.
02:57:24.140 You're welcome, baby.
02:57:24.900 there's a justice spell what are your thoughts on the lindsey clancy case see i'm not that great
02:57:32.600 the smirk is because she's absolutely obsessed with this case well because he did it but you
02:57:37.560 can feel very strongly about i do my take i'm watching from a clinical lens so i can't stop
02:57:43.360 obsessing about the all right tab over next please on that's crazy window tab
02:57:50.500 uh okay you can full screen press press play real image of her sitting all alone as she should
02:57:58.680 well it's this is ai generated but people are making supportive videos oh let's all
02:58:05.940 protect you in a circle of pink t-shirts i actually saw that the democrat
02:58:09.800 profile on tiktok posted that like a big account
02:58:13.900 all right uh x you can x out um let's see what he wrote if you can scroll back up to the top
02:58:22.620 really quick oh that's bridget uh she she wants to repeal the 19th she's seen enough next
02:58:29.480 she doesn't want to vote anymore uh no one literally not one person ever
02:58:34.060 women seeing a toddler after a bad day at work go ahead play it
02:58:38.260 okay uh next
02:58:51.120 uh lindsey clancy okay uh full screen it video tab
02:58:57.500 audio
02:59:03.100 are remembering that believing another woman is the start to changing the world
02:59:13.740 play it again
02:59:16.060 women are remembering that believing another woman is the start to changing the world okay tab over
02:59:28.300 next
02:59:29.860 uh yeah you are never going to make me hate lindsey clancy you're just not i know better
02:59:43.660 than anyone that the government would rather prosecute mothers than ensure they're adequately
02:59:47.060 supported okay next uh we're not going to play it because it's just like she's just you know
02:59:55.280 whatever um dox yourself scroll up scroll up scroll up stands with lindsey next uh kids
03:00:03.120 hearing their mom say she supports lindsey clancy next so you're telling me he made four hundred
03:00:10.220 thousand dollars a year while she drove their kids around in a kia he must have he must have
03:00:14.220 did it you know he made 400 but he bought her a kia which is a pretty reliable family car um next
03:00:20.140 uh okay we'll play this that's gonna be video time go ahead generational rage uh play it
03:00:29.000 and another thing about this lindsey clancy case that is bringing up the rage within me that is
03:00:34.020 like generational at this point is the fucking men who think that they can come in here take
03:00:39.600 up fucking space and speak on things they don't fucking know anything about y'all need to learn
03:00:44.740 to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down you have no idea what fucking postpartum depression is
03:00:51.940 calling it baby blues you motherfuckers just admit that not every fucking room wants to actually hear
03:00:59.260 your fucking opinion let the women cook and as a matter of fact at this point go call the women
03:01:04.740 in your family and tell them that you're fucking sorry because i know damn well that you are a
03:01:08.780 terrible fucking partner i'm definitely qualified to talk about men's issues like is male pattern
03:01:14.160 baldness actually that big of a deal like maybe if you took better care of your hair like you're
03:01:18.340 letting yourself go low testosterone oh my god like you're just fat and lazy why aren't you six
03:01:25.220 foot tall maybe if you tried diet and exercise if you tried harder you could be taller and don't
03:01:31.520 give me that excuse of erectile dysfunction you're just too fucking lazy to get it up
03:01:35.760 and before the pick me's come for me you also shut the fuck up sit the fuck down you fuck
03:01:42.620 When it comes to women's issues, the age group, have you guys noticed they're a lot older and they all have kids?
03:01:50.100 All right.
03:01:50.660 He's not a lot older.
03:01:52.360 Next.
03:01:52.820 No, like they have like kids.
03:01:53.900 Like they're like more.
03:01:55.720 Okay.
03:01:56.340 We don't have to play this.
03:01:57.960 So we're teaching her kids.
03:01:58.580 So everyone who's been talking about it, it's okay.
03:02:01.460 Yep.
03:02:01.740 You know, just with her child.
03:02:04.260 That's right.
03:02:04.620 Next.
03:02:04.860 Next.
03:02:06.780 Pat on her 2027 bingo card, Patrick Clancy on trial.
03:02:10.740 Lindsay cleared.
03:02:11.380 lindsey finally gets to heal justice justice served for those babies next uh maybe letting
03:02:18.560 everyone vote uh go ahead play the video i think it's a video
03:02:21.620 i think there's more to it go ahead play lindsey clancy's birth chart leo's don't kill
03:02:34.420 jail for him so really you can disregard the ascendant descendant icmc vertex
03:02:41.440 it's been a while but i have to pop on here just to say that i've been following this lindsey
03:02:59.000 clancy trial especially as a mother of two who dealt with a lot of postpartum mental illness
03:03:03.600 and um you know just following all their birth charts and birthdays and zodiac signs
03:03:08.900 he did it he did it he did it he's a gemini man oh he's a gemini i'm a gemini woman my birthday
03:03:17.960 is june 14th let me give you another example of who a gemini man is also birthday june 14th
03:03:24.240 men and women are different keep that in mind um please don't judge me donald trump
03:03:29.280 oh there yep there it is okay she lost me they would go there a long time ago
03:03:35.080 she doesn't pull that card she doesn't want to be trump tiffany louder forensic astrologer
03:03:42.100 yeah the forensic astrology charts that show that the perpetrator is a male the perpetrator
03:03:47.940 is having an affair and that the victims uh specifically lindsey was drugged during this
03:03:55.460 where do you think she went to school for that and i've also gone over with the theory
03:03:59.460 and telling you all right now when the south node goes into cancer in march of 2028 the south node
03:04:06.900 is going to transit over patrick clancy's moon and cancer he's going to be having eclipses
03:04:12.620 over his natal moon which is home family emotions his emotional life and that gets better
03:04:17.880 2029, 2030, he is going to have eclipses over his Gemini, his Mercury, his retrograde, his Venus retrograde.
03:04:24.320 It's about to get really interesting in the next, like, three to four years for him.
03:04:27.260 I'm going to my popcorn.
03:04:28.040 I can't wait for this man to be humbled and for karma to do its thing.
03:04:33.980 Wow.
03:04:35.600 So that's kind of how you sound.
03:04:39.220 At least I didn't talk about astrology.
03:04:41.060 I guess so.
03:04:42.000 Okay, Tiffany, next.
03:04:43.080 okay so um this is apparently um a guy broke up with his girlfriend because of this and she wrote
03:04:53.420 uh here let me have can you try to read this a bit louder yeah so you're really breaking up with
03:05:00.980 me over a fucking opinion i'm not breaking up with you over an opinion i'm breaking up with
03:05:06.800 you because that opinion showed me a fundamental difference in our values i had i had
03:05:12.680 I can have, sorry, compassion for someone struggling mentally without excusing what happened to those children.
03:05:19.120 If I'm choosing someone to potentially be the mother of my kids, I need to trust their judgment completely, especially when it comes to protecting them.
03:05:26.500 What you said created a doubt in me that I can't ignore or gamble my future children on.
03:05:33.260 All right.
03:05:34.440 So I do think that this is a good conversation to have with a girlfriend or potential date.
03:05:40.460 What do you think of the Lindsay Clancy case?
03:05:43.540 Me personally, I think if she's a supporter, you've got to dump her.
03:05:48.020 All right, next.
03:05:49.740 You know what?
03:05:50.380 I'm going to double down.
03:05:54.900 If you're married and you have kids and she supports Lindsay Clancy, you've got to divorce.
03:06:01.580 You've got to divorce her.
03:06:02.640 It's over.
03:06:04.220 I'd divorce.
03:06:06.000 That's over.
03:06:07.420 I'm going to try to take the kids.
03:06:09.280 I don't know if I can.
03:06:10.620 Okay, final thing.
03:06:11.760 I think this is the final thing, I'm pretty sure.
03:06:14.420 And maybe, Tiffany, you can check if it is.
03:06:16.680 All right, fellas, would you rather your,
03:06:19.180 remember the man versus bear thing
03:06:20.920 where women said they'd rather encounter a bear?
03:06:24.160 Would you rather your child be alone in the woods
03:06:26.540 with a TikTok mom or a bear?
03:06:29.360 A bear.
03:06:30.520 Definitely the bear.
03:06:32.380 Wow, okay.
03:06:34.380 They're so cute.
03:06:35.940 She's going to drive me nuts.
03:06:38.720 So now we can flip it.
03:06:40.260 We finally found the perfect example to flip the bear thing onto women on this one.
03:06:47.440 And then, Tiffany, was there one thing after that or no?
03:06:49.720 No.
03:06:50.380 Okay, so that's it.
03:06:51.980 All right.
03:06:53.520 Sesson, thank you for the super chat.
03:06:54.840 Appreciate it.
03:06:55.360 We do have a read here.
03:06:56.420 Laura, I'm going to have you read this one.
03:06:59.120 Chair three, riddle me this.
03:07:01.020 A husband is at home with his three kids, and the wife is on surveillance at two different stores.
03:07:06.400 the wife comes home and the children are dead and the husband says he did it who's guilty
03:07:11.380 what um that it that does look guilty like i said it does look guilty but there's a in this case
03:07:25.540 if it's not the same one there was a there was a time gap that they were trying to analyze on what
03:07:30.800 was going on but yeah looks guilty was he or was he not at the stores the for the time the time
03:07:40.400 gaps don't match because of her killing the kids and everything i'm pretty sure they do match um
03:07:48.120 but okay um but that was just what they were saying thank you for the super chat picnic table
03:07:53.080 appreciate it hey you change your name that looks uh i recognize your avatar but you change your
03:08:00.300 man. Thank you for the soup chat, man. I appreciate it. All right, guys. That pretty much mostly
03:08:04.640 concludes the conversation about Lindsey Clancy. It did take quite a while to get through it.
03:08:08.960 We're going to get into the dating talk now. $10 display, $100 TTS if you want to send something
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03:08:17.600 like the video. We're going to dive into some of the more dating-related conversation here.
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03:08:44.020 dollar instant tts it comes in and takes like five seconds three seconds so uh yeah i don't know what
03:08:50.300 do you guys think i would would it be wrong if i say divorced my wife because she's a lindsey
03:08:55.860 clancy supporter yeah they would leave the kids with her like they wouldn't be safe you'd have
03:09:00.680 to watch them all the time so i gotta stay married to a psycho do you want her to kill them if you
03:09:04.680 divorce like she's probably gonna have custody like realistically unless she actually did something
03:09:08.220 wrong like you have to be there to watch them so you i think you're correct you are correct like
03:09:12.520 as abhorrent and egregious as it is to side with lindsey clancy or be a lindsey clancy supporter
03:09:19.120 i don't think that certainly that in and of itself wouldn't be sufficient to like get the
03:09:23.580 kids from her right um but uh i don't know man i couldn't be with a woman like that so i think i
03:09:34.360 gotta divorce her and just i guess i gotta hope she doesn't murder our kids really you're not
03:09:39.880 gonna protect them no i would protect them well i'd be i'd split custody i guess like when they're
03:09:45.020 at her house why can't you just record her not doing the shit she needs to do like taking those
03:09:49.720 big meds, or
03:09:51.160 managing her own sleep, or
03:09:53.520 looking at her kids funny. He didn't care
03:09:55.400 for her kids funny.
03:09:57.300 Making TikToks.
03:09:58.860 I don't know. He should have, like, managed
03:10:01.520 more a little bit.
03:10:03.640 When people tell you their
03:10:05.440 intentions, believe them. Yes.
03:10:07.420 Yes, so true.
03:10:09.620 The older ladies know that.
03:10:10.360 So true. I feel like it is exposing
03:10:12.860 how many women, moms, that
03:10:15.020 regret, or, like, they just straight up
03:10:17.120 hate their children and hate being a mom.
03:10:19.720 And then I feel like in the larger scheme, it's dividing the men and women, like, oh, test if she supports her or not.
03:10:26.340 And then it's de-incentivizing, like, having children or having so many.
03:10:32.140 Before we jump into, like, new topics and new convos, I'm going to step away for two or three minutes.
03:10:37.180 So if you guys want to talk amongst yourselves, either it could be about Lindsey Clancy or something else.
03:10:42.520 If anyone had any final thoughts there, now would be a good time.
03:10:46.180 I just feel like that household was sick, and if she was going to the doctor as often as she was, that husband knew she was struggling.
03:10:54.580 Maybe he could have done something to mitigate on the behalf of the children, but at this point, it's not about the mom or the dad.
03:11:01.080 They're both shitty to me because he knew she was struggling.
03:11:05.180 He left her with the opportunity to do it.
03:11:07.360 I agree with that.
03:11:07.460 So I don't agree with everything that you said, but what you were saying, I took it in, and I said, how could I apply this to what I know?
03:11:13.960 So, yes, I can see how you would think that.
03:11:15.900 That's exactly what I try to do with what I say.
03:11:17.620 So you can have your own opinion on what I'm trying to do.
03:11:19.460 You don't have to have the exact same one.
03:11:20.880 Sure.
03:11:21.220 You could disagree.
03:11:22.000 But from your angle, I also see that because he could have done more.
03:11:25.440 But he didn't.
03:11:26.540 He did nothing at same time.
03:11:27.620 He did nothing.
03:11:28.320 And he knew what was going on.
03:11:29.600 Like he said, he knew she wasn't sleeping.
03:11:31.640 Like in the Chagibri thing in Wikipedia, he said he knew she was struggling.
03:11:35.860 And he did nothing.
03:11:37.300 And I want to say this too.
03:11:38.520 when you get married if you don't have that support it may be because your husband doesn't
03:11:47.440 know how to best support you so if your children are important and you feel like you're dealing
03:11:52.440 with that stuff you have to keep talking about it like beating exactly you have to say it over and
03:11:59.760 over and over again until someone listens to you and picks it up and understands what you're saying
03:12:04.100 but that lady was doing everything that she was supposed to do to be found not guilty in court
03:12:11.420 by my opinion she's been the doctor umpteen time she's got all these medications that aren't in
03:12:16.400 her system he's collected them i have an excuse for that husbands and wives don't i got pills from
03:12:22.240 back when i got my babies that was in 1995 okay we just don't throw them away we don't think about
03:12:27.240 it so that could be a plausible explanation too exactly so but with this other stuff i just feel
03:12:33.720 like we have got to have better safe places we've got people leaving their babies in the damn car
03:12:44.180 we got surgeons leaving their babies in the car for nine and ten hours why are we not caring
03:12:50.500 our animals do better to protect their offspring than these women are and I don't understand it
03:12:56.680 and speaking from the frame of reference I agree with you I'm definitely one of those people that
03:13:02.400 have always questioned like i don't really think i want to be a mother and i me thinking that way
03:13:07.060 like that might contribute to something that she was like maybe forced to have a child by her
03:13:12.460 husband or because she wanted a happy family yeah of course because it's like a society thing you
03:13:17.060 know white picket fence all that that's what she wanted but he wasn't ready for that you could just
03:13:22.000 tell from like those videos he would they were examining he would like be like 10 feet away from
03:13:27.280 them like whenever they went to these uh kid galleries or anything or like he didn't know
03:13:31.900 how to tend to his daughter so she kept getting
03:13:33.900 UTIs he didn't know how to potty
03:13:35.940 train her and she would have to
03:13:37.860 do it and I guess the overwhelming thing for her
03:13:39.940 is that she was in it alone
03:13:41.520 and she was unfortunately
03:13:43.520 and that's why like for me it's like I'm not going to have kids
03:13:45.740 until I know I have a stable
03:13:47.760 and you have a good husband
03:13:49.840 and I'm mentally there
03:13:51.800 too you know I have to be good
03:13:54.140 because your kid gets your nervous
03:13:55.780 system as well
03:13:56.900 here's the thing
03:14:00.140 Not every woman is meant to be a mother.
03:14:02.680 I agree.
03:14:03.100 To begin with.
03:14:04.660 Number two, some women then force themselves to become mother knowing that they don't have maternity in their nature.
03:14:14.420 And when a situation like this one takes place, then we have outside forces taking advantage of the situation to cause more division.
03:14:28.120 And that's what we see here.
03:14:29.720 you are defending a conspiracy
03:14:32.520 some other people are defending
03:14:34.440 the fact that number one
03:14:36.140 she said she was guilty
03:14:38.520 in all of the fact
03:14:40.300 all of the evidence points
03:14:41.620 that she did it
03:14:42.920 that when she was suffering postpartum
03:14:45.740 depression whatever it is
03:14:47.600 what I see is that she
03:14:49.940 premeditated and calculated
03:14:52.020 everything
03:14:52.960 to commit those crimes
03:14:55.260 and on top of that
03:14:58.180 now we have
03:14:59.060 outsized forces
03:15:01.300 feeding wrong information
03:15:03.520 to cause more division.
03:15:06.740 And it's not only
03:15:07.480 happening with this case
03:15:09.240 that I just learned about it, because I'm
03:15:10.620 too busy, but it's happening
03:15:13.160 also with some other type of cases.
03:15:15.320 When we have people outside, especially
03:15:16.820 in TikTok, that is very toxic.
03:15:18.940 I don't like TikToks
03:15:21.040 or Facebook, they are very toxic. Why?
03:15:23.100 Because there are people that
03:15:24.440 their main mission is
03:15:27.080 to have these influencers
03:15:28.480 feeding wrong information to cause more division within society why divide and conquer that's what
03:15:36.860 i meant by when i said saya by the way that's what i meant you explained and it's basically
03:15:42.360 de-incentivizing women and being like huh like i don't want to murder my children like maybe i
03:15:47.060 shouldn't have kids like i don't want to be a mom you know like so in the larger scheme it's gonna
03:15:51.800 like there's gonna be less people having children and that's already happening but maybe to a larger
03:15:56.780 extent and that's what i meant by psyop too like it's a depopulation thing
03:16:00.640 wait chair three do you want children no not yet okay good
03:16:08.220 continue continue okay anyways okay good
03:16:14.720 well okay anyways i'm distracted me too do you guys believe in astrology and me personally when
03:16:22.660 Not that crazy.
03:16:23.900 Not that crazy.
03:16:25.040 Maybe the fun, cute ones.
03:16:28.160 I have a theory about astrology that's scientific.
03:16:31.320 Let's hear it.
03:16:32.780 Okay, so we're mostly water.
03:16:35.860 We're quantum, neurons, protons, whatever.
03:16:39.780 The oceans have an effect by the moon, the planets.
03:16:43.740 And so our neurons definitely do too.
03:16:46.240 So the location, the angle of the sun, the larger planets neighboring us,
03:16:51.060 that might have, like, a time series effect on our, that can correlate to personality traits.
03:16:57.300 And, like, that's why, like, oh, they say, like, Gemini's are this way.
03:17:00.180 And, like, there might be some basis about, like, how, like, during the whole nine months
03:17:06.420 and then coming out, like, all of those, like, different vectors, basically,
03:17:10.000 of, like, the gravitational pull and, like, the angle and, like, the temperature and all of that.
03:17:19.160 I'm too much of a Virgo to believe that.
03:17:20.920 sorry she knew what she was doing it was from meditating she knew what she was doing i do want
03:17:26.320 to add um coming from my own experience i got mentally prepared to have a child that's what
03:17:33.440 you should do like people should be doing that but i just going right into it from immense
03:17:40.080 postpartum depression but it's also hormonal like it's a chemical imbalance like it's inevitable
03:17:46.120 pregnancy messes up your body and people don't know this because it's so romanticized people
03:17:52.640 post their bellies all cute like oh like this but you're not posting what you're going through
03:17:57.940 while you're pregnant what you're gonna but what's interesting is i have been seeing youtube videos
03:18:02.120 about postpartum depression before this all came out and that's what another reason why i think
03:18:07.540 like oh is it like it's blowing up right now it's such a interesting time this is what i have seen
03:18:14.520 in women that after they have children
03:18:17.740 that they don't want them,
03:18:19.940 divorce and give up custody.
03:18:22.180 I have been saying that to you, actually.
03:18:24.160 Divorce and give up the custody of the children.
03:18:26.460 If you're not meant to be a mother,
03:18:28.960 give them away.
03:18:30.380 But killing the babies is not the answer.
03:18:31.840 You always find them a better home.
03:18:33.580 There's different options.
03:18:35.060 How many couples, how many women out there
03:18:38.000 who wants to be a mother
03:18:39.680 and they cannot biologically be a mother?
03:18:43.120 They can't have kids.
03:18:43.900 You could give kids to those people who want kids.
03:18:48.000 If you can't do it, then don't force yourself.
03:18:51.280 Don't do that to the kid that you brought to this world.
03:18:54.160 Give them away to a good family.
03:18:55.080 Give them a chance to have a better life with somebody else who will embrace them.
03:18:59.220 Who is ready for them.
03:19:00.320 Exactly.
03:19:01.360 There is a large stigma of if you do have a kid, even if you're not ready, you have to be responsible for them.
03:19:08.360 So I do agree with this point, definitely.
03:19:10.860 If you're not ready, give them away.
03:19:14.500 Don't force yourself.
03:19:15.660 I'll adopt them.
03:19:16.960 There's plenty of people who will adopt, too.
03:19:19.620 I would foster and help.
03:19:20.900 Also really important, when you are in a relationship,
03:19:23.820 you need to make sure that your partner, your husband, your boyfriend,
03:19:28.920 or girlfriend, whoever it is, let them know that you don't want to have children.
03:19:33.180 And on top of that, prevent it.
03:19:35.840 Yeah, exactly.
03:19:36.580 And abortion is not a plan B.
03:19:40.440 No, it's not.
03:19:41.420 That's what you're trying to say.
03:19:42.480 It's not.
03:19:42.800 It's not.
03:19:43.480 No.
03:19:44.540 I think men and women should both take birth control precautions.
03:19:48.420 Like men should possibly get a vasectomy or whatever, male birth control.
03:19:51.960 It's irreversible, too.
03:19:52.640 And women should also do something so it's equally protective, you know?
03:19:57.420 Yeah, correct.
03:19:59.000 Because at the end of the day, bringing unwanted children is very responsible.
03:20:07.160 In the past, I had a friend who she got married from the beginning.
03:20:10.620 she told her future husband
03:20:12.760 that she didn't want to have children
03:20:13.980 they got married and then years later
03:20:16.980 and he accepted her
03:20:18.320 and she told him in the beginning I don't want to have children
03:20:20.580 and then a few years later
03:20:22.740 into the marriage he changed his mind
03:20:25.080 and he thought that he could
03:20:26.880 change her mind
03:20:27.980 they always think if they wait
03:20:31.080 they'll change your mind
03:20:32.640 it's just the relationship went
03:20:34.720 from bad to worse
03:20:36.240 and when he gave her a puppy
03:20:38.460 to try to wake up
03:20:41.340 in his maternity
03:20:42.940 I told her
03:20:44.980 he wants a baby
03:20:46.340 he said no I said that from the beginning
03:20:48.860 I'm telling you
03:20:50.080 he wants a baby
03:20:51.700 so right now is the moment for you to go back to the conversation
03:20:55.440 and let them know
03:20:57.060 that you don't want to have a baby
03:20:58.840 because if you have to end a marriage
03:21:01.520 unfortunately
03:21:03.000 you have to
03:21:03.920 because just as Brian said
03:21:05.560 if my wife tells me
03:21:08.320 that she's going to hurt my children or my future children,
03:21:12.520 I'll divorce her right away.
03:21:13.520 That is the right approach, unfortunately.
03:21:16.140 Another thing about this is, like, the postpartum depression.
03:21:18.880 So do you guys think that maybe men and women
03:21:22.280 should get paternal and maternal leave
03:21:24.200 and take care of the newborn together for a period of time?
03:21:26.120 I think they should be together.
03:21:27.560 It's a team.
03:21:28.300 Yes.
03:21:28.620 Like, the company should pay both of them?
03:21:32.480 That's the right way to do it, yeah.
03:21:33.440 There's a lot of things to be learned, too,
03:21:36.180 at the very beginning stages of a baby's life
03:21:39.100 that I definitely think the man should be there.
03:21:42.240 Guys, guys, I need you guys to speak into the microphones.
03:21:44.980 I'm sorry, but reclaiming my time.
03:21:46.820 Objection, reclaiming my time.
03:21:48.740 All right, so moving on to something else here.
03:21:51.920 Moving on to something else.
03:21:54.940 Why don't we get into,
03:21:56.980 let's get into the questionnaire here.
03:22:00.240 So, Assault, you agree with the following statement.
03:22:06.180 People of color can't be racist towards white people.
03:22:11.300 Why do you say that?
03:22:14.100 I just think people could do harmful acts towards white people if they don't like white people.
03:22:21.280 But not to be racist.
03:22:24.320 It's completely different than how a brown person and a black person goes through.
03:22:29.500 Just the history and everything.
03:22:30.840 so like saying racist is just holds so much meaning that i think i i've never been racist
03:22:37.640 towards a white person i don't know how to do that so well um you're not white no i'm not white
03:22:43.580 you're what i'm middle eastern persian um so you don't believe like say a black person or a
03:22:51.400 middle eastern person or an asian person or a latino person can be racist towards white people
03:22:57.100 like you can't be racist but you could treat someone differently because of theirs like racist
03:23:02.160 i feel like it's like more like saying words like certain words that goes with that like
03:23:05.880 for example like i've people have called me like uh sand monkey and that's like race that's what
03:23:12.640 i think as racist like those words i feel like i yeah um and then jenny you also circled this
03:23:21.500 people of color can't be racist towards white people why is that um i do think that people
03:23:26.580 of color could be racist okay so it's just did i do it it was a mistake yeah okay uh so okay going
03:23:31.740 back to assault um mind if i ask her a question yeah go ahead what do you feel about the word
03:23:37.440 cracker wait wait guys we're we're streaming on youtube and twitch i didn't know that was the
03:23:42.700 right word i know um let's just avoid that one just say the c word i guess um it's okay but
03:23:48.060 yeah what do you think of the c word um i just wouldn't use it it's banned on youtube
03:23:54.060 tube no yeah no i mean i i've never even thought of that you wouldn't use it but other people have
03:24:01.000 i've heard people in my community use that term i wouldn't because i'm not racist i feel we may
03:24:08.580 treat like i think racist and treating someone i don't know how to explain it prejudice with
03:24:14.800 prejudice yes prejudice is in the mind prejudice is something you don't really say it's just
03:24:18.900 something you believe to yourself and you might treat them differently but you know you don't
03:24:23.880 really tell them or anything yeah prejudice that's what i've been trying to say you could
03:24:27.120 treat white people with prejudice but you can't be racist okay let's let's define our terms i think
03:24:34.340 that'll be helpful um how do you define racism i think racism is you um using like a racial slur
03:24:42.300 something that's in history towards someone of that color and making fun of how they talk if
03:24:49.500 They have an accent, them having too much hair on their body because that's what I think
03:24:55.380 racism is, like attacking someone for how they look because they don't look white.
03:24:59.400 So wait, okay.
03:25:00.320 So racism, you think, is only a human construct that exists in the United States?
03:25:08.620 No, I think brown people are racist to each other and black people are racist to each
03:25:13.340 other.
03:25:13.960 I think that exists.
03:25:15.320 You call those slurs to each other.
03:25:17.480 like there's words that black people could say that we are not allowed to say that those are
03:25:22.500 still racist words uh well wait you think if a black person says the n-word with like a at the
03:25:29.260 end that is racist towards other black people well some some of my friends who were who are black
03:25:35.860 they they share that with me they like saying they don't like someone even if their other
03:25:40.080 significant other is black they don't like that person calling them the n-word i'm just saying
03:25:44.000 like you could be racist to each other yeah um so just so i have it correctly black people can't
03:25:51.940 be racist towards white people that's your position well i've never seen it so yes that's
03:25:56.800 what i'm never seen it yeah like can i give you an example so this happened not too long ago
03:26:03.580 there was a white ukrainian woman on i believe it was a subway or bus or something uh irena
03:26:09.480 or something like that and she was killed by a black man stabbed to death stabbed in the neck
03:26:14.660 and while he was doing it he was alluding you white bitch something like this um and
03:26:20.200 it seems like obviously there's a mental health component there but he did indeed murder her and
03:26:27.400 kill her and stab her to death while alluding to her white race would this to you be evidence of
03:26:33.840 a racially motivated crime
03:26:35.880 that we could define as
03:26:37.800 racist?
03:26:39.420 It is racially motivated. Do you guys think
03:26:41.600 hate criming and racist is the same thing?
03:26:45.000 That's what I
03:26:45.800 kind of see it as. My brain goes, that's
03:26:47.740 hate crime.
03:26:48.860 So when someone perpetrates a hate crime,
03:26:52.940 that's its own
03:26:53.980 label and category.
03:26:56.040 Are they also being
03:26:57.880 racist, or were they racist?
03:27:02.440 It's just like,
03:27:03.840 That is a hate crime towards her, and it's scary for someone to do that to someone who's white,
03:27:11.220 because other white people are also going to be like, I feel like I'm in danger because I'm white.
03:27:15.280 People, there's, our worlds are, how do I say this?
03:27:19.280 We're always being pinned against each other when we should all stand together.
03:27:22.880 I think we could all, racism is different with white people.
03:27:28.480 Do you guys know what I'm trying to say?
03:27:30.040 Like, I can't.
03:27:30.540 It's still racist.
03:27:31.500 It's still racist.
03:27:32.100 I don't.
03:27:32.980 Here, give me an easy working definition of racism.
03:27:38.180 Okay.
03:27:38.780 Like one or two sentences.
03:27:40.320 For me, it'd be racist.
03:27:41.880 For me, it is...
03:27:42.540 No, no, not an example of racism.
03:27:44.940 Tell me the definition of racism.
03:27:47.700 I think racism is using a slur, a degotatory, how do you say it?
03:27:55.220 A derogatory word towards that race.
03:27:59.040 That's still like an example.
03:28:00.620 like for example um you would agree like let's say a group of white people uh killed a black man
03:28:07.660 and they did so because he was black but they were all mute like say they couldn't talk they
03:28:12.640 were all fucking blind and deaf and retarded well i guess let's not say blind but they didn't know
03:28:18.520 how to talk but they killed the man in silence but they did so because he's a black man well
03:28:24.100 without even ever saying anything but say they wrote down the reason why you would have to agree
03:28:29.640 that this was a racist killing like a hate crime yes well it's still racist it's a hate crime
03:28:37.500 unless they said some slurs that's how my brain sees it unless it was like but so racism is only
03:28:43.320 when you say a word like racism someone down for wait if i refuse to hire say like i refuse to
03:28:49.600 hire a black person because they're black i'm not saying a slur but i'm choosing discriminating
03:28:55.720 you're not hiring them because they're black it's discriminatory and it's also racist
03:28:59.420 the racism is the cause for the discrimination so the racism is a systemic set of beliefs
03:29:06.740 that someone feels as though because of their skin color they're treated improperly or they
03:29:13.640 hate someone else that's different than they are like how some people don't get hired because they
03:29:17.780 have an accent like yeah girl I got an accent there's a lot of accents at the table right now
03:29:23.120 none of you are being hired um at the whatever podcast because of your accent just kidding
03:29:27.580 um but okay how about this then maybe i'll propose one and you tell me if you agree with
03:29:32.260 the definition racism is the either discrimination hatred or contempt of somebody on the basis of
03:29:40.860 their race or skin color yes okay but so i didn't include anything like and there has to be like a
03:29:47.360 historical um disadvantage like the the group has to be uh oppressed in some way historically
03:29:54.960 or it has to be a white person so do you agree with just because the original i agree no that's
03:30:03.180 a really that actually yes i like that but it's like wouldn't racism be like if someone's been
03:30:09.340 oppressed before like right well okay so going back to the original thing you think that people
03:30:18.640 of color so this would be like black people latino people asian people cannot be racist towards white
03:30:23.340 people um but so we defined racism at least i think we did as like discrimination or hatred
03:30:30.520 of a person on the basis of their race or skin color yes okay so in this case could a black person
03:30:38.680 have hatred or discriminate against, say, a white person
03:30:42.540 on the basis of their skin color? Yes. So can a black person be racist
03:30:46.200 towards a white person? In that definition that you explained,
03:30:50.580 yes. But do you accept my definition? I do accept. So they can't,
03:30:54.260 black people can be racist, or people of color can be racist towards white people?
03:30:58.500 Yes. I liked how you explained it. Okay, we convinced, I guess we convinced her.
03:31:02.880 I don't know if I, I don't know if she's just like,
03:31:06.260 ah fuck I don't want to argue it
03:31:08.700 or
03:31:09.120 no I'm just here for vibes
03:31:12.000 for the vibes
03:31:12.960 well how about that so look
03:31:16.300 historically black people
03:31:18.680 were disadvantaged and had
03:31:20.520 certain experiences in the United States that say white
03:31:22.560 people didn't
03:31:23.560 we could obviously point to
03:31:26.440 slavery as a big one
03:31:28.360 we could point to a few other things in ways
03:31:30.460 African Americans in the United
03:31:32.580 States have been disadvantaged
03:31:34.700 staged um but like if i could pose you this then perhaps is i think a good thing that might be able
03:31:41.640 to resolve this say so and there's also different kinds of racism so there's like systemic racism
03:31:48.380 where there can be inst or institutional racism where like say harvard historically say they just
03:31:54.520 were like you know what we don't want black people here we're not i don't know if that's actually i'm
03:31:57.800 just making up a hypothetical it probably maybe it probably was the case but as a hypothetical um
03:32:03.100 that would be like an institutional systemic form of racism right or like preventing black
03:32:08.340 people from voting that would be like systemic racism um my question to you though is like if
03:32:14.940 we're just looking at would you agree that if a white person who just really hated black people
03:32:20.880 walked up to a black person put a gun in their face and killed them and like called them the
03:32:25.560 n-word while they were doing it well actually i want to remove the calling them the n-word thing
03:32:29.800 because you seemed really tied into the verbal component to it.
03:32:35.120 White person who just hates black people, walks up to them, kills them.
03:32:38.000 Would you say that this is racist, like it was a racist act?
03:32:41.660 Because he hates the color of their skin, right?
03:32:44.420 Yes, he hates everything about them, black people.
03:32:48.300 Yes.
03:32:49.000 Okay.
03:32:49.540 Now, same exact scenario, but you have a black person,
03:32:52.340 and they just hate white people, walks up to a white person, unprovoked,
03:32:57.480 puts a gun in their head, pulls the trigger, and then, yeah.
03:33:04.840 And says he did it, I guess you could apply this to the other one too,
03:33:08.120 says he did it because he dislikes white people.
03:33:10.240 Is this a racist act?
03:33:12.560 It's like, yes, it's a racist act, and it's like a fatigued,
03:33:15.840 a lot of people of color we do have as well.
03:33:19.420 Wait, I'm sorry.
03:33:20.640 There's a psychology term for it.
03:33:22.500 It's like some Middle Eastern people have gone on a rampage where, like, they'll go hurt white people only, right?
03:33:30.420 And we call that, like, a fatigue of, like, just so much hatred, technically.
03:33:35.740 That's what it is.
03:33:36.460 They're, like, blinded.
03:33:38.560 And is this fatigue something that's only felt for white people?
03:33:43.820 Yeah, it is.
03:33:44.740 It's actually that's why they use the term.
03:33:47.180 I've heard the term fatigue typically not used for white people.
03:33:52.500 But you believe it only applies to white people?
03:33:56.480 Like, white people are so bad, there's a white fatigue.
03:33:59.300 There's a white fatigue, maybe women have male fatigue or some shit.
03:34:03.840 But I've noticed it more with, like, groups of people, like, when you said racist,
03:34:08.020 I do notice recently, especially in North Carolina,
03:34:10.760 white women have been getting attacked, I don't know if you guys have seen it,
03:34:13.240 by this Hunter Schaefer, and he just goes punching them just because they're white.
03:34:18.440 Have you heard of that one?
03:34:19.300 I think I saw it, and she got knocked down.
03:34:21.240 And I actually was talking about that on TikTok.
03:34:25.160 It was very important for me to spread this information that, like, all women should be careful, not just because of the color of your skin.
03:34:31.740 White women should be more careful right now.
03:34:33.880 I'm saying all women should take care of themselves, like, self-defense and everything.
03:34:38.120 But that's why I'm saying the fatigue has risen towards white women a lot lately, especially in North Carolina.
03:34:44.780 Wait, wait, wait.
03:34:45.400 So I'm a little confused.
03:34:46.140 when you say fatigue, are you saying, well, look, you know, these people, because the way white
03:34:52.860 people are or act, these people are somewhat justified because of the fatigue. No, no,
03:35:00.400 it's not justified because of the fatigue. I'm saying that's why they're doing it. They think
03:35:03.360 it's justified. Do you think it's justified? No, I don't think it's justified. But I'm confused.
03:35:08.360 Why? What is, okay. Do you have fatigue? No. Towards white people? I do not. No.
03:35:16.140 My boyfriend's white
03:35:17.600 Wait wait wait
03:35:23.760 What's that joke
03:35:25.120 Somebody in the chat
03:35:27.320 What's the joke about
03:35:28.480 Activist in the streets
03:35:31.920 Colonized in the sheets
03:35:33.640 Yeah I've been
03:35:35.440 Domesticated you could say
03:35:37.600 It's always the like
03:35:39.200 Can I ask you a question
03:35:40.320 Would you consider yourself more liberal
03:35:42.320 No
03:35:44.720 No, I really know anything.
03:35:46.940 I'm not even from the United States.
03:35:48.360 Oh, you're just a girl.
03:35:49.760 I'm just a girl.
03:35:50.360 You're just a girl.
03:35:51.040 You don't know anything.
03:35:51.820 I'm just a girl.
03:35:52.300 Here's like a million pieces of evidence that Patrick Clancy did this shit.
03:35:54.640 I'm just here to talk to the ladies.
03:35:56.320 All right.
03:35:56.480 So here are you.
03:35:58.400 Okay, so the question is, I guess going back to this, so your boyfriend's white.
03:36:04.180 Yeah.
03:36:05.440 My favorite white man.
03:36:07.060 The white fatigue.
03:36:08.380 Do you have white fatigue?
03:36:10.040 No.
03:36:10.720 Besides your boyfriend.
03:36:12.160 No, I would.
03:36:12.480 He gets the pass.
03:36:13.280 I have a lot of I have friends of all colors. I don't have any fatigue. I'm saying the fatigue is called because those people think it's OK to do those acts like in their head.
03:36:22.840 They're like, oh, it's OK. But OK. But I'm not sure why you're bringing this up, because like there are people in the discourse who say they have fatigue towards black people or Latino people or, you know, whatever race it could be.
03:36:36.020 i'm just curious why bring it up why like i don't know why you're forwarding this i don't know if
03:36:42.380 you're trying to forward it as like a defense of their actions but it's like not a defense that's
03:36:46.840 what i'm trying to say i'm just saying they think the reason it's called a fatigue is because they
03:36:51.960 think it's okay that's what they're saying they have fatigue they they're sick sorry okay sure
03:36:57.760 yes i see um all right uh they should be locked up forever now i guess final question on this
03:37:04.640 Well, I feel like you kind of
03:37:06.680 I don't know if you're just backing off of your position
03:37:09.040 That people of color can't be racist
03:37:10.940 Towards white people
03:37:11.800 No, I like the way you defined it
03:37:13.820 And she explained it really well, too
03:37:16.320 Okay
03:37:17.900 Alright, well then I'll move it on
03:37:19.920 Let's see, what else is there
03:37:21.700 You wanted a battle, but I actually agree
03:37:23.360 Assault, you say women
03:37:25.880 Somewhat similarly
03:37:27.140 Women can't be sexist towards men
03:37:30.080 Why is that?
03:37:31.800 for two men yeah yeah you circled the statement uh women can't be sexist towards men so you agree
03:37:39.460 with what i think there's a double circle is a super dark i might have done it by accident for
03:37:44.400 that one i mean jenny because the other one i went around you did women can't be sexist towards
03:37:49.680 women could be sex yeah yeah me too i agree with that i probably did it by accident okay
03:37:56.500 all right feels like i went back and circled darker because i messed up on let me how about
03:38:04.920 this so perhaps it's the case that women can be sexist towards men is it not as bad though
03:38:11.160 when women are sexist towards men than when men are sexist towards women are you saying it's like
03:38:16.460 a defense intensity of how they both like yeah i mean it's let's just say in if i were to give
03:38:21.820 you an example let's just say they did the same thing right um is it not as bad i feel like it's
03:38:28.260 both pretty much the same you're still being sexist okay all right all right um let's see
03:38:34.860 what else do you have you say uh you agree with the following statement women do not
03:38:38.520 do you consider yourself a feminist let's go around the table on this feminist no
03:38:43.000 say yes or no no what's if like specifically i might have the wrong little bit of feminist
03:38:51.800 It's, like, somebody that's really about women's rights and, like, promoting women above everything else and excusing all of your behavior.
03:39:00.280 Oh, like, above, oh, no, no, then I'm not that.
03:39:01.640 Okay.
03:39:02.020 I don't think I would say excusing all behavior.
03:39:04.720 I feel like the definition.
03:39:05.520 You gotta, I'm sorry, you gotta be closer to the mic.
03:39:07.440 Sorry, I was kind of squished.
03:39:08.760 I wouldn't say excusing all behavior.
03:39:10.740 I think being a feminist more so means, like, just that they are allowed equal rights compared to men.
03:39:19.080 oh like if it's like equal to men and women then yes or like protecting women that's how i am but
03:39:26.700 i wouldn't excuse a woman's thing just because they're a woman well there's all kinds of different
03:39:31.160 definitions of feminism i could google one i mean i could tell you i feel like we're all a feminist
03:39:35.100 but in our own different way uh well okay so um well i believe that you can be in favor of women's
03:39:40.820 rights and not be a feminist so the the feminist label perhaps the most charitable one would be
03:39:48.020 women's advocacy
03:39:50.960 with a dismantling
03:39:53.420 of the patriarchy?
03:39:56.900 Oh, no.
03:39:57.440 So I care about women's rights,
03:39:59.220 but I'm not a feminist.
03:40:00.760 Okay, fair enough.
03:40:01.780 You do circle to the following statement.
03:40:04.140 Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
03:40:06.860 Why is that?
03:40:07.880 Or how is that?
03:40:08.480 Just like in the work industry,
03:40:10.400 like how to get promotions and everything,
03:40:14.400 men do tend to get it a lot easier
03:40:16.620 because they don't think a woman is capable.
03:40:18.720 Anything else?
03:40:20.020 I don't know, that's it.
03:40:21.460 But so in terms of, you know,
03:40:23.360 you can certainly find evidence of all kinds of,
03:40:26.820 you know, racism, sexism,
03:40:28.200 and various individual instances in the work world.
03:40:33.860 But when we're talking about rights specifically,
03:40:36.840 I don't know if like, you know,
03:40:38.460 say there's a company and most of the executives are white
03:40:41.920 and they're like, you know what,
03:40:42.880 we don't want to hire a black person.
03:40:44.060 And I don't know if that wrong, though, that may be.
03:40:47.980 I don't know if that would be evidence of unequal rights.
03:40:51.760 And also, by the way, I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
03:40:55.120 So is there a right that men have that women don't?
03:41:00.960 Or what are the rights that, what are the unequal rights?
03:41:04.380 Oh, like rights?
03:41:05.420 Yeah.
03:41:06.240 I feel like, let me make sure I understand.
03:41:09.140 I'll just read it back here.
03:41:10.400 So the, the, the prompt is the statement is women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
03:41:16.680 So that's, that's what in my head, the way I was thinking rights is when you are leveling up and anything, men do have more of an advantage.
03:41:25.520 Even if the girl has like more of a bigger, better resume.
03:41:28.620 Do they?
03:41:30.520 Do they?
03:41:32.200 Do they?
03:41:33.320 Wait, what?
03:41:34.140 Tiffany, I might have you go into the resources tab or the research tab really quick.
03:41:38.780 um it might be depending on the industry obviously and what kind of work i i read something recently
03:41:45.880 that in the past year uh in terms of job creation something like 600 000 new jobs went to women
03:41:54.400 and only like 90 000 jobs went to men wasn't there an initiative to hire more minorities yeah i think
03:42:02.600 that's what they were trying to do hire more women because they usually don't stuff almost 90 percent
03:42:07.160 of jobs created since trump's re-election have gone to women let me see if i can find the actual
03:42:13.620 women barely get any jobs like now they're trying to uh workforce participation is pretty equal um
03:42:20.900 hold on let me see if i find it you it looks like you want to come in on this i just want to say i
03:42:25.640 don't support quota hiring because then they end up hiring the wrong people or they don't even look
03:42:31.680 at the resumes yeah no they're just looking at their face or what they think they might look
03:42:36.180 like in the interview which is shallow that's what they care about looks a lot recently now too
03:42:41.800 and it's like you just missed the best person you could probably have you didn't even look at their
03:42:46.740 resume because they didn't give that person a chance like oh we already picked someone
03:42:49.980 thank you bye you have it tiffany okay i'm gonna tab over uh make a bigger please during the trump
03:42:57.660 administration women's employment has grown while men's employment has flatlined change since january
03:43:04.920 2025 women have by the way this is a huge margin here um women plus 403 000 men only plus 65 000
03:43:17.140 wow that's nearly 30 uh 350 000 more
03:43:22.820 it's kind of seems like women are doing pretty good now they are that's really good pretty
03:43:28.660 pretty damn good but go woman what's the but they compensated fairly yes that's the question they
03:43:36.760 absolutely were how do you know how do you know that what how do you wait wait how do you know
03:43:42.100 they weren't compensated fairly for my own example well okay well how would that establish that for
03:43:48.180 the remaining 400,000 women because it tends to happen to a lot of women around well first off
03:43:55.380 Well, I do agree that women during the Trump administration have got better opportunities now when it comes to volume.
03:44:06.240 This is another reality, specifically in the United States.
03:44:10.680 Women are not compensated as equally as men.
03:44:15.700 For instance, I have a master's degree.
03:44:20.860 I speak five languages.
03:44:22.420 I have an annual sales record on my annual sales record, yearly, every year, sales record annually, every year, top $11 million when I work in corporate America, and I never had a basic salary similar to another man in the same industry in the same position that I have.
03:44:48.180 Furthermore, there were times, me as a senior sales director, when I had subordinates, regional sales manager, who had better basic salary than me as their supervisor.
03:45:02.060 That I had to compensate on commissions to make a fair living.
03:45:08.160 Wait, so you were a manager?
03:45:10.000 Were you doing?
03:45:10.780 Yes.
03:45:11.660 So were you getting commission when you were a manager?
03:45:14.140 Yes, basic salary plus commission.
03:45:16.560 So I had to compensate on commission in order to have a fair living because my basic salary was not fair in 23 years in the security industry.
03:45:26.280 Men get paid more than women do.
03:45:27.720 Men get paid more, even if they had less background than I had.
03:45:32.320 And you have more qualifications.
03:45:34.500 I worked for vice president who had an associate degree who were making best, better salary than me having a master's degree.
03:45:42.980 Well, okay, so hold on.
03:45:44.240 There's a couple different claims here.
03:45:45.760 But what you just said there
03:45:48.040 The vice president of the company
03:45:50.180 Was earning more than you
03:45:52.240 With less education
03:45:54.200 Like he's getting more pay
03:45:56.200 And more emotions
03:45:57.260 Mark Zuckerberg dropped out of college
03:46:00.120 He's higher compensated than you
03:46:02.060 Is this evidence of sexism
03:46:03.860 Or is it just because he has a higher
03:46:06.240 It's a difference because he's a founder
03:46:08.200 There's a difference
03:46:09.860 The higher up you go
03:46:12.420 When it comes to the
03:46:14.280 executive suite the c-suite you're higher you're more compensated so it it makes sense that the
03:46:20.340 vp of the company who has an associate's degree even though he's less educated makes more money
03:46:25.800 he could be a fucking junior high dropout and still make more money than you your education
03:46:31.180 especially in a sales job and that's kind of irrelevant when women doesn't work that way
03:46:36.500 when women do well that's how it does work and they go up men are always like oh you slept your
03:46:41.620 way up oh you have like they don't even believe you could do it like a lot of women not all the
03:46:46.860 time but but mostly but you know most men do assume but so well okay look i acknowledge that
03:46:54.380 perhaps rarely men will say she slept her way to the top uh will you acknowledge that some women
03:47:01.380 do sleep their way to the top well you can't just assume that because well hold on but uh well hold
03:47:06.900 Hold on, you think in the history of women, ambitious women, a woman has never slept with a male superior or any man to gain some sort of career advantage?
03:47:19.540 Because they don't...
03:47:20.280 Answer the question.
03:47:21.420 Oh, yeah, no, yes.
03:47:22.280 Is it impossible?
03:47:23.680 So I'm looking for at least some admission here.
03:47:28.080 I'm not saying all women who are successful slept their way to the top.
03:47:31.240 I'm just looking for like a concession that some women do.
03:47:35.380 You know why they had to do that?
03:47:36.340 It's because they're going to get the same opportunities as other men.
03:47:39.560 That's not true.
03:47:40.460 I never sleep and I went to the top.
03:47:42.000 It's not impossible for men to sleep.
03:47:43.300 There's DEI.
03:47:44.740 There's DEI.
03:47:45.740 Hold on.
03:47:46.320 There's DEI.
03:47:47.520 There's all kinds of initiatives to get women into the thing.
03:47:50.640 And there's all kinds of DEI initiatives.
03:47:52.760 It's this idea that women are held down in the corporate world.
03:47:56.280 They're getting hired at like 3x, 4x, 5x the rate that men are.
03:48:00.460 this idea that they're well okay even when they even when uh when there's like five times as many
03:48:06.660 women who gain jobs in like a one-year period than there are men which is fucking a crazy ratio
03:48:12.200 crazy ratio you're gonna say well okay they're not being paid as much well okay well we got to
03:48:18.480 compare like for like right we can't just compare all the workforce to all the workforce um where's
03:48:25.100 the where's the evidence that the women are being undercompensated i think there could be some if
03:48:30.080 you search it up i just haven't okay well i think there can be cases where uh men are undercompensated
03:48:35.460 but you hear about it a lot with women though right well so wouldn't this almost be the fact
03:48:40.780 that men are basically ignored when it comes to the ways in which they're discriminated against
03:48:46.180 in the workforce or they're not hired or they're not doing so hot you never hear about it but you
03:48:51.860 do have politicians who were who will endlessly pander to the female vote who you never actually
03:48:57.720 see politicians ever pander to men it's always women's issues women's issues when's the last
03:49:02.960 time you ever heard a male politician or sorry not a male politician that's all we hear though
03:49:06.800 men's politics you've never heard seen a male politician pander to men
03:49:10.100 2025 donated 100 dollars complaining women can run for president women can run for any seat in
03:49:17.820 office women get the same vote as men on the other hand women are more prone to taking off of work
03:49:23.980 for family reasons men can too but women okay so when we're talking about the wage gap here which
03:49:30.160 by the way is total bullshit it's been debunked um while there you can find examples by the way
03:49:35.960 you can go to google and google a couple years ago wanted to find evidence that they were being
03:49:41.480 sexist towards women what they actually found at google was that they were underpaying the men
03:49:46.480 they did they did like the self-audit and they found out that they were underpaying men because
03:49:52.420 they wanted to look woke and they were overpaying underqualified women. So there's a bunch of DEI
03:49:58.780 initiatives. Look, the wage gap is bogus. It's completely bogus. What you're thinking about
03:50:04.080 here, you're not comparing a specific industry, specific jobs, specific education level achievement.
03:50:12.400 You're not looking for seniority. You're not looking for hours worked. You're not looking
03:50:16.100 at time off. You're not looking at geography. What the wage gap is doing is it's not a wage
03:50:21.340 gap it's an earnings gap is it just basically compares all the money men make to all the money
03:50:26.120 women make and then just comparing it and say women make 80 or 80 cents to the dollar their
03:50:33.380 regular player donated 100 i quit in the ninth grade and went to work made my first million by
03:50:41.640 the time i was 21 by hard work college gives you a door opener you still have to work hard and grind
03:50:48.800 to get to the top the regular player thank you very much for the hundred dollar tts much
03:50:53.740 appreciated man um yeah i i do have one thing to say that kind of that there is a point is that
03:51:01.680 yeah i have like white guy friends and they have told me that because of dei they've been laid off
03:51:08.340 and um paid less or not promoted so i do see that side as well um but i still believe there is like
03:51:15.900 lot of besides the wage inequality they're coming from someone who was in a male dominant industry
03:51:23.020 as a software engineer i was like one of like two girls on the engineering team like there are a lot
03:51:28.060 of women in product management and i haven't really experienced it but i've witnessed it like
03:51:34.460 men being very toxic and like basically saying like oh she can't like she's not smart enough to
03:51:39.260 do this and insinuating like like very harsh like environments that yeah we might be getting paid
03:51:45.020 well but like live like working in that yeah but look i understand that sometimes men are by the
03:51:51.220 way men are brutal to other men in the work environment too the corporate world the work
03:51:56.660 world it is competitive and there's a lot of fucking backstabbing and corporate bullshittery
03:52:01.480 that goes on but i guess what i would say to this is um is it sometimes the case that somebody's
03:52:10.460 doing a job and they just they suck at it and they're incompetent i'm not i'm not saying
03:52:14.840 all women. But there are some men, there are certainly some men who are shitty at their job
03:52:20.580 or incompetent, just as there are women who are incompetent. But I've also seen competent women
03:52:26.440 not get promoted and men that came later into the company get promoted. Well, I mean, but we also
03:52:32.360 see the reverse where you have women who get preferential treatment when it comes to promotions
03:52:37.760 and career advancement in a corporation for DEI initiatives. And it's like, well, you know,
03:52:43.400 uh we see this everywhere oh well we're actually you know we don't really care about merit we just
03:52:49.500 want to put a woman there oh okay we want more women on the board we're gonna put women there
03:52:53.560 i agree with both of that so um that's also why like i think it's all of these like isms like
03:52:59.760 feminism toxic masculinity i think society fails to just look at like let's make
03:53:05.560 level the playing field for everyone well i don't understand the leveling the playing field thing
03:53:13.380 so i believe like equality of opportunity is fine but with equality of opportunity that doesn't mean
03:53:20.060 you're going to have equal outcomes so some people the the difficulty with like sort of some of this
03:53:25.680 left-wing thinking equity communism socialism etc the equity type thinking there are certain people
03:53:33.700 who are going to be better or more intelligent and they're going to just rise through the ranks
03:53:39.280 so like how do we match up somebody who has like 140 iq and they're like a genius coder versus
03:53:45.120 someone who's got like a sub 100 iq and they just like aren't that good obviously the person who's
03:53:50.560 more intelligent is going to i would hope uh have better prospects and it's going to have um they
03:53:56.580 both have the opportunity but one of them's a fucking dumbass you probably went to school and
03:54:00.320 you knew you probably knew guys who were dumbasses and they're like what are you doing like you suck
03:54:04.900 right so i don't know um i don't want to linger too long on the wage gap thing i would say this
03:54:09.740 though um men work more hours on that there's all kinds of men are more likely to work uh overtime
03:54:18.420 men are more likely to work overnights men are more likely to relocate to bumfuck nowhere men
03:54:23.560 are more likely to do dangerous dirty difficult uh jobs than women are women and i i think women
03:54:30.700 might be smart in this way women prioritize work-life balance more so than men like men
03:54:36.940 will just fucking kill themselves for work and when women are a bit more like you know look
03:54:41.900 there's some fucking killer women who are like super ambitious and they work they work their
03:54:47.180 asses off but there's a higher proportion of men who are willing to you know put in a little more
03:54:54.420 work do certain things that women wouldn't be willing to do you know if we're looking at like
03:54:58.940 I would say that depends on the demographic, on the age of the man.
03:55:06.300 I suppose, but I mean...
03:55:08.800 Because we have a generation of YouTubers and gamers that are good for nothing,
03:55:14.560 that are still living in a mom's basement.
03:55:16.660 Okay.
03:55:17.320 While we have a lot of single mothers working two, three jobs to raise the children by themselves.
03:55:24.400 Well, of course, there's all kinds of situations like that.
03:55:26.960 I mean, the big thing here, just to bring it back to dating a little bit, when it comes to the wage gap, the first four prompts, or the first three prompts, men should pay for first dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
03:55:41.940 Let's see, Molly, you circle, you agree with all of those.
03:55:45.980 Asal, you agree with all of those.
03:55:48.300 Mulan, you agree with all of those.
03:55:51.860 Lucy, you agree, not that men should pay on first dates, but men should provide, protect.
03:55:56.960 Men should be chivalrous.
03:55:58.560 Sarah, you agree men should pay on first dates.
03:56:01.140 Men should provide, protect.
03:56:02.200 Men should be chivalrous.
03:56:04.060 Cece, you agree with two and three.
03:56:06.160 Men should provide.
03:56:07.080 Men should be chivalrous.
03:56:08.800 Jenny, men should pay for first dates.
03:56:10.780 Men should provide, protect.
03:56:12.640 Leslie, men should pay on first dates.
03:56:14.600 Men should provide, protect.
03:56:15.500 Men should be chivalrous.
03:56:17.100 Violet, men should provide, protect.
03:56:18.800 Okay, so provide, provide, provide.
03:56:22.020 So, I have a different theory that I have not heard from anyone else besides myself.
03:56:26.960 even if we were to grant that the wage gap exists men get paid more
03:56:31.380 I believe it can actually be explained away but by what I just went through so it's not the evil
03:56:39.660 patriarchy it's not the boys club and corporations oh I just want to pay men more I would argue that
03:56:45.240 because women place a massive mating pressure on men to provide to protect to pay for dates
03:56:52.240 if if a condition of me getting a date getting a kiss getting laid having a girlfriend having
03:56:59.760 children one day if that is either like medium or really strongly tied to my income to my success
03:57:10.180 to my finances men are just frankly more motivated than you guys so men are more
03:57:18.520 money motivated
03:57:20.800 because for any of you
03:57:23.020 here, do you need
03:57:25.160 millions of dollars to get dick?
03:57:27.120 You could be homeless
03:57:28.340 and get dick
03:57:30.580 as a woman.
03:57:32.060 You could be 53, you could be
03:57:34.900 52 and working
03:57:37.020 at making minimum wage
03:57:38.920 as a receptionist at
03:57:40.440 53, 52.
03:57:43.520 That's not what you guys do.
03:57:45.800 And guys will want
03:57:46.960 to fuck you.
03:57:48.520 I'm a bit younger than you guys
03:57:52.500 I'm 37
03:57:53.380 If I was flipping burgers at McDonald's
03:57:56.960 Women between the ages of 35 and 40
03:58:00.140 Would not fuck me
03:58:01.300 I'm sorry, if I'm working at McDonald's
03:58:03.720 I'm not getting pussy as a 37 year old
03:58:07.040 It's not happening, I'm not getting pussy
03:58:08.760 So, I believe
03:58:11.940 That the wage gap
03:58:13.680 It's not because of men's sexism
03:58:16.200 it's because of women's sexism you guys you guys hold men to a traditional gender role standard
03:58:23.500 men should pay on first dates men should provide men should be chivalrous if me getting put by the
03:58:29.200 way men are i believe men are more sex motivated um i don't know if there's a difference between
03:58:33.380 like relationship and marriage motivation between men and women i i would maybe say still like men
03:58:39.420 are more motivated then but women obviously want to get married and have a family and have kids
03:58:45.280 i think i guess um men are more sex motivated men are more motivated in that way again if i gotta
03:58:54.600 pay for the first date that's a financial burden on me not on the woman we're just more motivated
03:59:00.680 because if not not for like male sexist reasons because you all of you i'm blaming all of you
03:59:07.740 The wage gap exists because all of you hold men to a standard.
03:59:13.280 And men, we're happy.
03:59:15.140 We're happy to oblige your standard.
03:59:17.560 We'll pay for the date.
03:59:18.500 We'll put the pressure.
03:59:19.960 But if I got $100 for a first date, well, shit, I got to work a little harder to get some pussy.
03:59:26.360 You guys just don't have to.
03:59:28.540 And it must be because men are haunted by nature.
03:59:32.200 Yeah, they are.
03:59:33.020 They go after they want to.
03:59:34.360 So you take out the woman that you can afford, so you can have what you want.
03:59:40.620 Yeah, you have to get what your standard is.
03:59:43.600 But my point is that even if the wage gap existed, which it didn't, I'm just saying.
03:59:50.320 It's not because men are evil.
03:59:52.400 Maybe it's because y'all are evil, and you want men to pay on the first date.
03:59:55.820 And so I think in my head, oh, whoa, okay.
03:59:59.040 It would be helpful if I have a nice apartment and a nice car, and I can take her to a nice date.
04:00:04.360 And, uh, look, I get it.
04:00:06.160 You guys sometimes fuck homeless dudes.
04:00:07.660 I get it.
04:00:08.140 Sometimes he's a hot homeless guy.
04:00:09.520 You'll fuck him.
04:00:10.140 But like long-term, like long-term, you know, it helps me to date women if I'm successful
04:00:17.980 and I got money and I'm not, to be clear, I want to say women care about more than just
04:00:22.800 money.
04:00:23.040 I don't want to make it seem like I'm not trying to paint women as gold diggers, but
04:00:27.060 let's not, let's not completely be like women don't care about money at all.
04:00:32.240 I think women do care about it.
04:00:33.600 and I don't think there's anything wrong with that
04:00:35.760 I don't think women are gold diggers
04:00:37.440 I'm just saying
04:00:38.760 if you're broke as a woman
04:00:41.700 you can get a bunch of dick
04:00:43.860 if I'm broke as a guy
04:00:46.260 zero pussy
04:00:47.180 it's a little harder to get pussy
04:00:49.340 it's not impossible
04:00:50.760 but she's got to be down bad
04:00:53.080 I think it's all about being taken care of
04:00:56.820 at the end of the day
04:00:57.520 because men want to say they're stronger than women
04:00:59.840 then be stronger than a woman
04:01:01.680 do more things than a woman
04:01:03.560 might do if you want to
04:01:05.660 really impress her.
04:01:06.480 I personally think women
04:01:07.920 should simp.
04:01:10.700 I think, now I'll pay for
04:01:12.600 dates and stuff, you know, but
04:01:13.880 I think it's kind of hot when a woman
04:01:16.500 just gives me money.
04:01:18.320 Like Laura, wait a second.
04:01:21.800 Like Fendom.
04:01:22.800 This happens so often.
04:01:24.000 That's how Fendom is.
04:01:26.000 Fendom doesn't give the woman money.
04:01:28.520 Well, there's financial domination.
04:01:30.680 A man could find on a woman.
04:01:33.120 Who has cash here?
04:01:34.500 You got cash?
04:01:36.340 Mulan, you got any cash in your purse?
04:01:38.000 I have cash.
04:01:39.940 You're a multi-billionaire tech chick.
04:01:43.820 I just remembered I have cash.
04:01:45.460 You got cash?
04:01:46.600 No, we don't use cash.
04:01:47.560 I have cash. I just remembered.
04:01:48.980 Molly? No, she's the millionaire.
04:01:51.280 Who's the millionaire? Laura, you got cash?
04:01:54.160 Mine is my snaps.
04:01:56.860 Cash?
04:01:58.580 Anybody want to give me cash?
04:01:59.900 anyways what was I saying
04:02:02.820 look ultimately
04:02:03.660 I don't know where I was going with that
04:02:05.740 here let's finish up the prompt
04:02:08.900 the question was women do not have
04:02:10.860 or the prompt was women do not have equal rights to men
04:02:13.020 in the USA you brought up the wage gap
04:02:14.960 wage gap has been debunked
04:02:16.480 tell me something else
04:02:17.940 is there anything else besides that
04:02:21.160 in terms of rights that women do not have
04:02:24.820 compared to men
04:02:25.420 I just
04:02:28.160 would this relate?
04:02:30.500 I feel like men should mind their own business
04:02:32.180 about what we should do in our uterus.
04:02:34.860 Okay, so abortion.
04:02:36.720 Okay, but so...
04:02:39.160 We don't have rights to our own
04:02:40.340 bodies like how they do. Yeah, we're not going to have
04:02:42.240 a full-blown abortion debate, but I would say this.
04:02:44.420 So, when
04:02:46.260 we're talking about equal rights,
04:02:48.460 you would have to demonstrate first
04:02:50.340 or show first that the man
04:02:52.400 has a right that
04:02:54.240 women don't. So this right
04:02:56.180 could be, I don't know,
04:02:57.820 men are allowed to have Pokemon cards
04:03:00.380 and women are banned from buying
04:03:02.280 they cannot own Pokemon cards
04:03:03.780 as a woman if you buy a Pokemon card
04:03:06.060 you die like you get executed
04:03:08.200 it's a felony
04:03:09.620 you get the death sentence
04:03:12.400 that would be an inequality
04:03:14.280 of rights the man can have a Pokemon card
04:03:16.660 Pokemon cards
04:03:17.860 the woman can't
04:03:18.940 so the man you would agree men can't
04:03:22.200 go to their girlfriend or wife
04:03:24.240 and be like hold on
04:03:25.880 Chair 2, wow, donated $100.
04:03:28.900 Chair 2, watch the tattoos are sick.
04:03:32.400 Give that woman another popsicle.
04:03:34.840 Miss Molly.
04:03:36.300 Okay.
04:03:37.680 So, where was I?
04:03:39.980 The Pokemon card writes,
04:03:43.780 so men cannot go up to their girlfriend or wife who's pregnant
04:03:48.380 and be like, you know what?
04:03:50.860 I'm going to force you to get an abortion.
04:03:52.860 Men can't do that.
04:03:53.940 Now, you might say they might be coercive and pressure them, but, like, the man cannot, like, there's no mechanism to, like, actually force her to get an abortion, right?
04:04:05.220 So men don't have reproductive rights.
04:04:08.060 Men don't have abortion rights.
04:04:09.460 There's not even, like, an equity, what I would consider an equity right when it comes to reproductive rights.
04:04:15.560 obviously uh men should not have a be able to force women to get abortions or they should not
04:04:22.860 i guess well maybe they can prevent i don't know whatever wait hold on sorry let me catch my train
04:04:27.220 of thought here the equity right for men would be say the woman gets pregnant and the man wants
04:04:32.200 nothing to do with it the man should be like peace and not have to pay child support yeah that would
04:04:38.200 be equity so okay men can't force women to get abortions men can't prevent the abortions okay
04:04:44.760 but the man can like abandon his kids if the woman can murder her child the man should at least
04:04:50.580 get to abandon the child you know you're not even allowed to have abortions past six weeks because
04:04:55.520 that's when it starts to develop depends on the state i guess but yeah um after that it's
04:04:59.740 this wouldn't be evidence of an unequal right so abortion is like sort of a unique you you could
04:05:08.560 argue it's a right that women can or cannot have yeah yeah like in a way what i was thinking but
04:05:14.460 it's not unequal because you would agree with me men don't have abortion rights in a way what i
04:05:20.140 was thinking is like if men were women and they needed abortions they would make it legal like
04:05:24.320 that if men wanted free tampons they'd have it like that well i mean this is just complete
04:05:30.520 assumptions yeah that's like what i was talking about i was like saying like for men they could
04:05:35.000 access things a lot better like in that way that's what i was saying i i mean i don't see
04:05:41.260 any compelling evidence given the fact that uh there's such a high proportion of pro-life men
04:05:46.540 and by the way there's many pro-life women i i don't think it's actually compelling that if it
04:05:51.600 was men who could get pregnant then that that that would then follow that abortion would be legal i
04:05:59.180 i don't i don't see how that would be the case okay okay um does anybody else like women do not
04:06:06.300 have equal rights i think somebody else um circled on this it was uh sarah women do not
04:06:15.080 have equal rights to men in the usa why is that for the same reason that i explained when it comes
04:06:20.160 to the wage the base salaries correct all right yeah we already talked about that there then there
04:06:25.180 was uh mulan uh mulan you say women are oppressed in the usa why is that
04:06:30.240 wrong oh okay disregard them loki is so hot i forgot what i circled the sweat was getting in
04:06:40.240 my eye all right uh let's do this then uh assault wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend
04:06:48.240 if she regularly turns him down for sex why is that because you need to go to therapy why are
04:06:54.200 you trying to have sex all the time there's more to love than that because testosterone okay
04:07:00.200 Now, Sarah, you also agree.
04:07:02.440 Tune in to this one.
04:07:03.780 Cece, you also agree.
04:07:06.260 And then Leslie, you also agree.
04:07:10.800 She doesn't want to have sex with you all the time.
04:07:12.580 I said it was wrong.
04:07:14.000 Well, you agree with the prompt here, which is it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
04:07:23.280 So why don't we start over here with you.
04:07:24.820 Leslie, why is that?
04:07:25.680 um i think that women and men can have high sex drives um doesn't really matter um but yeah but
04:07:36.960 i feel like for women it is really psychological sometimes um for example i was in a relationship
04:07:43.660 where i couldn't match that type of energy that the man was giving me and um we ended up breaking
04:07:49.280 up. And I thought it personally, it was wrong, um, for the reason that you don't have to have
04:07:56.340 that physical act to have intimacy in that way. Uh, okay. Let's go. Cece, you disagree. Why,
04:08:03.020 or, uh, you agree. Why is that? Testosterone is a very prominent motivator for men. Um,
04:08:11.060 you are making testosterone. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. So, okay. The prompt is,
04:08:16.760 So do you think it's wrong?
04:08:18.160 Yes, I think it's wrong for them to withhold sex regularly.
04:08:21.940 But it's wrong for the woman.
04:08:25.100 No, no, no.
04:08:25.800 Am I misunderstanding?
04:08:26.440 The prompt is wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
04:08:34.120 That's not wrong.
04:08:34.840 I was wrong.
04:08:35.300 Okay, go ahead.
04:08:36.020 You?
04:08:37.320 Well, two things.
04:08:38.720 Yeah.
04:08:40.260 Depending on the age of both of them.
04:08:42.500 Me personally, I don't engage for a long time in sex before marriage because of my Christian values, which is not everybody agrees with my point.
04:08:52.160 So for that reason, if I'm going to date somebody from the beginning, it has to have my same Christian values, which we both are going to agree no sex before marriage.
04:09:01.980 However, in the case of partners that they do engage in sex before or during marriage and she's disengaging, you have to reconsider hormonal changes, petty menopause, which starts taking place as early as 34 years old.
04:09:19.280 And one of the first symptoms is losing sex drive.
04:09:24.000 Okay.
04:09:24.800 So that's the first thing that he needs to evaluate.
04:09:26.980 Maybe she needs to go to the doctor and check her hormones.
04:09:29.940 So dumping her immediately
04:09:32.400 It will be irresponsible
04:09:33.320 Especially if you believe
04:09:34.860 That woman has something else
04:09:36.780 In the relationship other than sex
04:09:38.960 Do you think that is material for our wives?
04:09:41.940 Okay, but so
04:09:42.640 Regularly turns him down for sex
04:09:46.060 So this would be
04:09:47.240 If a girlfriend
04:09:49.280 Or wife
04:09:50.660 She's a bit tired
04:09:52.020 Or she's feeling ill
04:09:53.800 And she doesn't want to have sex
04:09:55.420 That's fine
04:09:56.120 But when we're talking about regularly
04:09:58.260 Like, when I think of regularly, I think, like, for a three-month period, she fucked him two times.
04:10:06.040 Like, and he, not just the libido is low.
04:10:10.060 He's trying, and she's turning him down.
04:10:12.940 She's rejecting him.
04:10:14.440 So, look, I understand there's all kinds of reasons why this might be.
04:10:17.480 There's all kinds of reasons.
04:10:18.780 Number one reason is check on the hormones.
04:10:20.340 Yeah, and he should be working with her.
04:10:21.500 Because it does happen.
04:10:22.200 Okay, but so let's assume the hormones are, but hold on.
04:10:25.340 Not all instances of, like, dead bedrooms are due to hormonal issues.
04:10:30.860 I agree with that.
04:10:31.520 Sometimes women just, like, I don't know, they lose their...
04:10:36.340 If it's not hormonal, then you have to check them on the environment because men and women are wired differently.
04:10:45.260 Correct.
04:10:45.900 We are emotional.
04:10:48.040 Women are emotional?
04:10:49.220 Should they be paid less because of that?
04:10:51.820 I just want to add...
04:10:52.940 What I'm trying to say is that when you are in the beginning of the relationship, the hormones works differently.
04:11:02.460 And you have that sex, sex, sex, sex, sex all the time.
04:11:05.560 And then you get used to it.
04:11:07.480 If the man takes the relationship for granted and he stops the approach, the approach changes because now he's taking the relationship for granted.
04:11:17.180 and he's not bringing that special treatment towards the woman,
04:11:22.840 she's going to disengage.
04:11:24.660 Emotionally, it's going to happen.
04:11:26.860 Okay, so wrong for a man to dump his wife or girlfriend.
04:11:30.780 Yeah, change the strategy.
04:11:33.040 Okay, Saul, why?
04:11:34.880 I think there's a better way to go about it because there's many reasons.
04:11:38.240 It doesn't have to be hormonal, but if you really care about that woman,
04:11:42.060 sex is like whatever.
04:11:44.220 It's like you'll talk to that.
04:11:45.480 You'll confide in her.
04:11:46.720 like hey what's going on why is this happening between us is there something i need to do like
04:11:52.680 do we need to see a couple's therapist if you want if you care about that woman you don't just go
04:11:58.000 ah she's not giving me pussy i'm gonna just dump her like no like you don't just because she's not
04:12:03.000 giving you pussy there's something wrong she wants you to talk to her reach out to her you love her
04:12:07.240 then you talk to her you don't just take the easy way out okay but so um
04:12:13.820 this kind of assumes i i at least think maybe i need to make the prompt more clear
04:12:20.560 uh i would assume that if you are in a relationship with a woman and she's regularly turning down for
04:12:28.000 sex i don't think it necessarily implies here that no conversation is had about the lack of sex and
04:12:33.800 he just dumps her i think it's fair like in a scenario let's say that a conversation is had
04:12:41.960 with the woman and she's just like yeah you know i'm just i think i think there's a difference
04:12:49.580 between whether she's doing it intentionally for some sort of control or leverage or whether it is
04:12:54.540 a hormonal issue like let's say if we're reversed and the guy had ed and right and like the woman
04:13:01.200 had a really high sex drive and like she was just like well i i need to orgasm because like it's
04:13:07.020 like i have a high sex drive and then the guy literally can't get it up and is depressed
04:13:11.660 like should she leave him they can hold on yes we have to differentiate between should
04:13:18.400 and right or wrong okay so would it be wrong so well i don't think it's wrong for a man or a woman
04:13:27.020 who is not finding themselves sexually satisfied to exit a relationship now again the longer the
04:13:35.200 the longer the relationship then i think there is a you know should this person
04:13:40.540 make an effort to help alleviate the problem or like give the person grace and time i would agree
04:13:47.400 with that i'm not saying okay your boyfriend turns you down once your boyfriend turns you down once
04:13:52.940 and you should you should try you should do that again lolly uh your boyfriend turns you down once
04:13:56.040 you should dump him of course not but like what if it's like let's say one of them had cancer
04:14:00.960 right like it's like obviously you want to stay with them during that phase but you might not be
04:14:07.080 satisfying your needs but you guys made a pact in marriage in sickness or in health uh sure um so
04:14:15.480 but our men so okay let's assume i get married and there's no cancer and then a year into the
04:14:21.260 marriage she just stops fucking me and it's not because of hormones and it's not because she has
04:14:27.420 cancer and it's not because she has some perpetual illness she just rescinds consent like that's it
04:14:35.000 yeah that's it oh yeah that's a different that's like a very different no no but she's just like
04:14:39.920 there there's no external thing she just like you know is she just doesn't want to fuck anymore
04:14:47.120 talk about it like she fell out of love then dissolve the marriage like she fell out of love
04:14:51.740 and she you don't turn her on anymore like kind of way no she still loves me but maybe just the
04:14:56.460 sex drive or something oh then maybe she should talk to her we'll see a therapist maybe they can
04:15:00.260 figure it out stress yeah stress environment we go to the therapist and then she still doesn't
04:15:04.400 fuck well maybe she might you don't know okay but no let's go okay let's go let's go to the
04:15:10.120 therapist let's go to the therapist and get those she still doesn't fuck i definitely think it's
04:15:13.580 valid i think it's valid but i just think it's wrong like i think that's messed up like you're
04:15:17.960 supposed to love someone exactly yeah there are women okay but like men receive love
04:15:24.660 differently physically physically men receive love one of the ways is through sex correct and look i
04:15:33.400 think sex is important for women i think it's important for men but i think it perhaps maybe
04:15:38.100 is a little more important for men.
04:15:39.840 That's one of the big ways that it's big for men.
04:15:45.440 So y'all going to stop fucking.
04:15:47.520 Look, I don't think your girlfriend turns you down.
04:15:51.540 The fuck is Molly in this?
04:15:53.060 Okay.
04:15:54.200 I don't know.
04:15:55.480 Asal, what do you think?
04:15:58.540 What do I think what?
04:16:00.440 You have a strong position on wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend.
04:16:04.800 I definitely think there's different solutions.
04:16:07.340 There's, like, things she could take, natural stuff.
04:16:10.740 Like, there's a lot of things she could try if she loves you that, like, she wants to have sex with you.
04:16:15.460 Maybe she genuinely can't get horny.
04:16:19.380 Maybe she's bored.
04:16:21.320 Maybe you need to, like, change it up a little bit.
04:16:24.520 Do you think men have a duty to provide and protect?
04:16:28.260 I think it's natural to them, yeah.
04:16:29.640 Do you think men want to do these things?
04:16:33.880 Like, do you think when a man wakes up at fucking 5 a.m. to go work in a coal mine, he wants to do it?
04:16:42.180 Or does he do it because he has a duty to the family?
04:16:44.720 He does it because he cares about her and a duty to the family.
04:16:47.900 Okay, so, and this is a bit controversial, especially in the marriage.
04:16:54.620 But, I mean, I would even extend this to a monogamous relationship.
04:16:58.100 Do you guys, I'll pose it as a question.
04:17:00.120 do you feel when you've entered into a monogamous relationship that's not like you're let's remove
04:17:06.720 these weird scenarios where like one or both people are like asexual or something these are
04:17:13.000 sexually active individuals at least at the start of the relationship do you think that both men
04:17:19.060 and women have a duty to each other to have sex with each other do they have a duty yeah yes
04:17:26.040 But if a woman stops fucking
04:17:29.060 There's something wrong
04:17:30.540 You need to fix it
04:17:31.580 Men need to try harder
04:17:34.220 That's why men cheat a lot
04:17:36.680 That's why men cheat because they give up
04:17:38.440 That is not true
04:17:41.420 You need to switch it up
04:17:42.720 You need to switch it up
04:17:43.660 You gotta do something more
04:17:46.320 I have gotten carpal tunnel syndrome
04:17:48.280 Why don't you switch it up
04:17:51.380 You gotta switch it up
04:17:52.180 You gotta get some toys
04:17:53.480 You gotta be like
04:17:54.460 You don't got a tongue bro
04:17:56.460 You're fingering her left thigh
04:17:59.320 You gotta do more
04:18:00.100 Something will turn her on
04:18:01.680 I also think it could be environmental though
04:18:04.200 I feel like something needs to change
04:18:07.080 A guy could like
04:18:08.080 Be in a situation where he starts
04:18:10.640 Kissing up on his girl and kissing her neck
04:18:13.780 And he's trying to do the foreplay
04:18:15.680 And the girl's like
04:18:16.720 But what if your breath seems
04:18:18.480 And she's scared to tell you
04:18:20.560 I don't know
04:18:21.120 Let's assume the breath is pristine
04:18:24.160 Let's assume it's pristine
04:18:26.700 Is the dick game pristine?
04:18:29.320 Maybe you need to ask her
04:18:30.600 What can I do better?
04:18:32.260 Maybe it's broken down there
04:18:33.740 That happens too
04:18:35.320 Again, therapy
04:18:36.860 Your pussy broke?
04:18:39.940 I was there too
04:18:41.500 I want you to say
04:18:42.900 I
04:18:44.060 Violet what?
04:18:46.680 Soul
04:18:47.080 I
04:18:49.320 Violet Sol
04:18:50.500 Violet Sol
04:18:51.380 My pussy was broken for three months
04:18:53.240 My pussy was broken for a year and a half
04:18:56.060 Broken? What do you mean?
04:18:57.840 Nothing could
04:18:58.420 Is it from trauma?
04:18:59.360 It was the Great Wall of China
04:19:00.560 Were you in a terrible train accident?
04:19:02.800 No
04:19:03.120 Like terrible trauma
04:19:04.240 Did you go dry?
04:19:05.180 So basically like nothing could like enter it
04:19:07.320 Or it'd be like excruciating pain
04:19:09.040 Like the pain was like
04:19:10.160 My roommate went through that
04:19:10.860 Like death
04:19:12.040 Like it was so painful
04:19:12.940 It was just like medical
04:19:13.580 Even a finger right?
04:19:14.300 Yeah like if it was like eh not great
04:19:16.440 Like anything else was like
04:19:17.880 It was like excruciating
04:19:19.240 like pelvic floor tightening yeah like i'm in agony for after an hour afterwards like yeah
04:19:23.400 but it turns out it was an actual thing all right okay um here moving on i don't want to go through
04:19:30.400 that next question pussy broke your pussy was broken that's the name cheated on me so oh good
04:19:36.560 times they always do that like it's because no this is my boyfriend in high school he's like okay
04:19:41.700 you can't fuck um one can we have a threesome with your friend so i could fuck her and it won't count
04:19:47.180 I was cheating, like, you'll be there, don't worry.
04:19:48.820 But then I was like, no.
04:19:49.880 He's been fantasizing about that, you know?
04:19:52.360 I'm good, I'm good.
04:19:54.200 Did you give him oral?
04:19:55.580 Let's say, wait, I have a question, though.
04:19:57.360 Let's say I have a mortgage and we've been married for five years
04:20:00.280 and we got, like, three kids.
04:20:03.540 Can I just be like, you know what?
04:20:05.560 I just don't feel like working today.
04:20:07.840 I'm just not going to go to work.
04:20:09.360 Yeah, don't go to work, relax.
04:20:09.740 Maybe for two weeks, three weeks, three months.
04:20:12.600 Maybe she could pick something up and help around the house.
04:20:15.040 Do you want the bills to go uncovered like that?
04:20:18.160 I don't know.
04:20:18.680 Do you want the dick to go unsucked?
04:20:21.820 Maybe you'll go on paid leave.
04:20:23.900 There's so many options for money.
04:20:25.600 It's not going to suck itself.
04:20:28.340 Yeah, it can.
04:20:29.420 It's not going to suck itself.
04:20:31.420 All right.
04:20:32.740 Past should not matter.
04:20:35.160 Let's see here.
04:20:36.100 Past should not matter.
04:20:38.620 Let's see.
04:20:40.320 Body count.
04:20:41.240 Past should not matter.
04:20:45.040 Who circled on this?
04:20:46.400 I don't know.
04:20:46.800 Did I even know?
04:20:48.320 Ah, Lucy.
04:20:50.140 Passion not matter, body count.
04:20:52.820 Sarah, passion not matter, body count.
04:20:54.780 Is Sarah coming back?
04:20:55.580 Sarah?
04:20:56.100 Yeah.
04:20:56.740 We need you.
04:20:57.920 We need you, Sarah.
04:20:59.880 Perfect.
04:21:01.420 Andale.
04:21:03.540 Andale, chica.
04:21:04.580 Andale.
04:21:07.900 Wait.
04:21:08.480 Oh, she's from Puerto Rico.
04:21:09.960 Yes.
04:21:10.720 What do you think about Bad Bunny?
04:21:12.500 He doesn't represent Puerto Rico.
04:21:13.980 Oh, okay.
04:21:14.560 All right.
04:21:15.040 There's nothing.
04:21:16.480 We have to watch our first.
04:21:17.400 All right, so going around the table, who, Leslie, passion not matter, body count.
04:21:21.940 Leslie, why should passion not matter, body count?
04:21:23.520 Oh, my gosh.
04:21:24.300 I just don't think that that stuff really matters when you're in a current situation.
04:21:28.040 Like, why do I need to know how many people view stuff or how?
04:21:31.460 Okay, who else says passion not matter?
04:21:33.620 I think it was you.
04:21:34.420 It was you.
04:21:35.020 Okay, so you said the passion matter, like, if you're in love with the person.
04:21:39.540 Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter.
04:21:40.660 Okay, and she tells you, you know what, I fucked 300 guys, you know.
04:21:45.040 But, Sarah, passion should not matter. Why is that?
04:21:48.840 Passion does matter?
04:21:50.140 Past. Body count should not matter.
04:21:52.980 You're asking me now a little bit.
04:21:54.560 Okay, yeah. Oh, wow.
04:21:56.160 Body count should not matter. Why is that?
04:21:58.600 Because, again, depends on the demographic.
04:22:03.200 In my case, I'm 53 years old.
04:22:06.140 People make mistakes.
04:22:08.580 And if somebody already changed to have a better life,
04:22:11.520 don't dig in the past
04:22:13.520 and bring skeletons
04:22:15.620 that will jeopardize
04:22:17.340 your relationship. For instance, I've been
04:22:19.640 divorced since 1998.
04:22:21.620 Yes. I've learned from my
04:22:23.640 mistakes. Yes. Not that many.
04:22:26.000 Not that many. Some mistakes.
04:22:27.320 I'm a boring person.
04:22:29.480 Not all the time. In my youth, I was
04:22:31.660 Army. You go through
04:22:33.560 a lot of experience in the Army. Oh, in the Army, you get
04:22:35.500 a lot of experience.
04:22:36.820 I feel like same passion matter.
04:22:39.140 The barracks bunny over here.
04:22:40.560 But when people over 40s are dating again, you don't dig into their past.
04:22:49.320 I think it's okay.
04:22:50.800 I think it's all right.
04:22:51.580 You don't want to, especially if somebody already learned from the mistake and their change, leave the past in the past.
04:22:57.040 When you're in your 30s and 40s and 50s, you're not exactly going to get a nubile version here exactly.
04:23:06.100 I understand that.
04:23:07.200 Lucy, why do you?
04:23:10.560 think passion not matter i think that experience is key when it comes to pleasing your partner
04:23:18.360 and so if you go into a relationship not knowing how to pleasure yourself
04:23:22.420 and especially not knowing how to pleasure your partner then it might just be bust
04:23:27.020 i mean i think uh i don't know i personally think it's really it's hard for women to be bad in bed
04:23:37.200 Like, you have to go out of your way to be bad in bed, especially if you're dealing with a guy.
04:23:40.620 If he has experience and he knows how to lead, he knows what he likes, he can take a girl with minimal experience, little experience, or no experience, have great sex with her.
04:23:51.080 If he knows how to lead in the bedroom.
04:23:54.660 I don't know if the same is true for women, obviously, especially if you're a bit more submissive as a woman.
04:23:58.780 But, look, I understand that, yeah, it could be the case that a woman who's, like, fucked 100 dudes and has fucked, you know, 10,000 times, she has more sexual skill.
04:24:10.660 But, like, sex is not a complicated procedure.
04:24:15.000 Sex, especially for women.
04:24:18.280 I just don't know where it went.
04:24:19.800 I don't know.
04:24:20.160 Can you see where it is?
04:24:21.240 Oh, wait.
04:24:21.840 Don't move.
04:24:24.300 Thank you very much.
04:24:25.160 Appreciate that.
04:24:25.700 and it's like
04:24:27.540 you know maybe
04:24:28.820 ultimately men don't care
04:24:31.140 what do you mean about body count
04:24:33.400 oh yeah okay well let's let me ask you guys a couple
04:24:35.620 questions you
04:24:36.940 you and you starting
04:24:39.560 with Leslie here
04:24:40.460 would you date a guy who used to fuck
04:24:45.480 men
04:24:45.820 no
04:24:49.080 what about you no
04:24:50.860 yes 100% yes 100%
04:24:53.680 next question okay well that's
04:24:55.660 two of three i got there and uh so i hold on leslie and sarah i thought the past didn't doesn't
04:25:01.480 matter he used to fuck men but he's not straight at that point no he's bisexual yeah i was gonna
04:25:07.680 ask like how do you guys feel about bisexual men i perceive how do you feel about bisexual men i
04:25:12.700 don't have a problem you'd fuck a bike i like my men a little gay i can see that are you saying
04:25:17.760 your boyfriend's a little gay no he's so cute stop no you peg your boyfriend sorry what he's
04:25:22.640 so cute you peg him no i don't talk about him okay um but like how about the i don't know if
04:25:28.600 this changes anything there's obviously i guess for gay men there's top and bottom
04:25:32.120 i mean both i would assume for women a little undesirable but i would have to assume that if
04:25:40.260 the guy was a bottom in a gay like as a gay dude or a bi dude it's just some information i have on
04:25:47.480 bi men because a lot of my friends are gay like my boyfriend loves that like he's around my friends
04:25:51.880 he loves all of them but a lot of them who are bi they're like yeah i'm bi but i like men more
04:25:56.500 like don't date a girl but they'll never yeah yeah it's like don't never feel that way towards
04:26:02.580 a girl that they do towards men but they say they're bi because they find women hot or beautiful
04:26:06.900 or attractive but i'm like that's why it's risky dating by men because they will probably cheat on
04:26:12.580 you with a double trouble okay all right well let's do this uh if body count shouldn't matter
04:26:18.180 doesn't matter uh passion not matter going around the table what's your body count for minutes one
04:26:26.260 for one minute it's over 10 under 20 okay molly three us all seven louder seven seven now by the
04:26:35.480 way actually really quick oh i'm sorry let's start again i'm i apologize really quick um i think it's
04:26:40.720 helpful for the viewers especially those who are tuning in uh after the intros can we just start
04:26:44.860 again tell me your age just say your age I'm 19 my body counts blah hi I'm Laura you don't have
04:26:52.360 to say your name just age hi I'm 19 and my body count is one for men and over 10 for women I'm
04:26:59.900 20 and it's three I'm 22 and it's seven I'm 30 and it's nine I'm 26 and it's eight I'm 53 nobody's
04:27:10.300 business come on you said body count shouldn't matter can you do a range i never count to be
04:27:18.240 honest with you have you lost track what's the best ones you remember you lost track
04:27:22.840 who made you finish hold on you lost track yeah do you think i lost or not because too many
04:27:32.360 or not too little I just
04:27:34.020 well do you I mean is it
04:27:36.420 over 20 you think
04:27:38.700 no definitely not
04:27:40.060 oh of course not definitely not just to be
04:27:42.100 give you an idea
04:27:43.420 the last time I date was
04:27:46.140 two years ago for briefly for a month
04:27:48.400 before that I was eight years
04:27:50.200 celibate
04:27:50.740 because of my last experience
04:27:54.260 when I was engaged for 10 years
04:27:56.400 with monogamous
04:27:58.480 but when was the military
04:28:00.300 oh I was wild
04:28:01.900 Oh, now I want to know
04:28:05.120 To sell a bit for eight years
04:28:06.680 Brings you to like early 40s
04:28:08.480 I'm going with a boyfriend
04:28:09.060 Not early
04:28:11.780 Mid 30s
04:28:14.880 So that's
04:28:15.900 18 to
04:28:18.420 30
04:28:19.740 From the age of 21
04:28:22.740 To 25 I was married
04:28:24.380 To my first boyfriend
04:28:25.700 I was six years in the army
04:28:28.320 Give us a range
04:28:29.700 You're so curious about it
04:28:31.780 Give us the range.
04:28:33.520 He's like, I need to know which.
04:28:36.160 Range?
04:28:36.660 What category?
04:28:37.720 30 to 40.
04:28:39.700 How about this?
04:28:40.760 Let's do a deal.
04:28:43.120 How many from the military?
04:28:44.940 Oh, yeah, that's a good question.
04:28:47.820 That's a trick question.
04:28:48.560 She said she went wild.
04:28:50.060 While you were in the military.
04:28:52.060 That's only, what, four years, six years of your life?
04:28:54.880 Six years of my life.
04:28:55.980 A girl can do a lot in six years.
04:28:57.120 So she was getting freaky on Thursday, Thursday, Sunday, fun day.
04:29:01.780 In the military, what's your, in the military body count, and we're not talking about, well, you're a medic, combat medic, so probably not murdering people.
04:29:13.300 No more than 10.
04:29:14.620 She's like nothing memorable.
04:29:15.780 No more than 10.
04:29:16.380 Okay, what about you, body count?
04:29:18.680 Is that just vaginal penetration?
04:29:21.700 Because I went through a blowjob phase, but vaginal penetration is only like 10.
04:29:26.700 Tell us about the blowjob phase.
04:29:28.640 When I was 16, I just kind of was the new kid in school.
04:29:32.460 Girls were really mean to me, and they used to, like, call me a slut.
04:29:36.300 Blowjob, Betty?
04:29:37.100 I would suck their boyfriends off and then tell them about it at school.
04:29:41.560 What?
04:29:43.080 Yeah, own it, girl.
04:29:44.360 Wait.
04:29:44.660 The hell?
04:29:45.080 In high school.
04:29:45.920 It was 40 years ago.
04:29:46.780 In high school, in the deep south, girls would be rude to you,
04:29:53.540 and as revenge
04:29:55.340 you would suck
04:29:57.540 their boyfriends off
04:29:59.160 and then tell them about it
04:30:00.480 and then tell them about it
04:30:03.220 and she knows she's good
04:30:05.140 I've always had a high testosterone level
04:30:07.820 though I don't know if that's got anything
04:30:09.580 to do with it I'm guessing
04:30:10.840 so what's the BJ count
04:30:12.100 oh it's a lot
04:30:13.540 what's the BJ count from high school
04:30:17.300 20
04:30:18.800 well okay let's take
04:30:21.300 my junior and senior year in high school and we will we will say but over 20 less than 50 wait
04:30:28.260 i'm sorry could you say that again over 20 less than 50 over 20 less than 50 35 in high school
04:30:38.440 in my junior senior was that the 90s you're in high school yes it was it was 1990 oh they all
04:30:46.000 looked good in the 90s so you were sucking high school dudes off to nirvana and shit nice wait
04:30:53.060 was kirk cobain alive i think he still was actually my children i think my children were
04:30:58.320 born when kirk cobain was still alive 96 right yeah he died in 96 or something like that i think
04:31:05.980 yeah all right oh wait i also have a question hold on hold on uh we got finished uh okay age
04:31:12.140 body count? I'm 36
04:31:14.320 and I do have teenage
04:31:16.360 daughters and I know they're watching so I'm not
04:31:18.360 comfortable. It's late. They're not watching.
04:31:20.220 Oh, yes. They are watching. They're not watching.
04:31:22.000 There's no way they're watching all of this.
04:31:24.080 They are watching. They're not watching. They want to know about me.
04:31:26.500 Give us like... They're not watching. Trust me.
04:31:28.280 If we say the number... Okay. Give us a range.
04:31:30.160 Give us a range.
04:31:31.920 They're going to find out.
04:31:32.960 They're going to find out eventually.
04:31:34.300 Less. Okay. 10 to 20?
04:31:37.000 Less. I have a low
04:31:39.000 body count. Okay.
04:31:40.700 What about you? Leslie?
04:31:42.140 I'm 26, and it's 7.
04:31:45.900 Violet?
04:31:46.940 I'm 22, it's under...
04:31:48.880 I'm 22, it's under 9.
04:31:53.540 Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number.
04:31:55.820 For all of you.
04:31:57.220 For all of you.
04:31:58.460 Wow.
04:31:59.060 Can I ask something?
04:32:00.180 Yeah, go ahead.
04:32:00.580 What about for men?
04:32:01.400 Do you think their body count matters?
04:32:04.900 Well, so here's my position.
04:32:06.860 I think promiscuity is bad in men and women.
04:32:09.440 uh but i would say that i there's a couple different ways i could approach this but
04:32:15.800 overall i would say it's not as bad still bad not as bad okay double standard um i i agree slightly
04:32:23.980 but um i think like it depends on the stage in their life for example if uh because men's brains
04:32:30.600 don't fully develop until they're like 25 right so well if they're kind of if they're like a player
04:32:35.420 okay but if they're like a player like in their like 20s to early 30s but like if they're still
04:32:41.260 doing that when they're like 40 then that's like a connection issue that's just like a
04:32:46.080 issue right yeah well not necessarily and here's why it could not necessarily be the case
04:32:54.600 so i think as a woman you basically have like maximum value like pretty much immediately at
04:33:01.740 18 right and so for women when it comes to getting laid or having casual sex you basically just have
04:33:08.760 to be like below average looking and willing like that's the that's the threshold for a woman to get
04:33:16.780 casual sex is just like you could be obese and fuck like 100 dudes in a year um for men
04:33:26.760 now there are definitely men who are like 18 19 20 21 22 who can get and do have casual sex
04:33:33.440 but a lot of men don't really come into their own until mid 20s late 20s or even into their
04:33:43.560 mid 30s you know a lot of men don't really hit like their kind of peak financial stride
04:33:49.960 until their mid 30s um and where men have a bit more leverage in the dating marketplace
04:33:56.000 so my this is i i guess i'd give credit to uh fresh and fit for this one um i'm gonna probably
04:34:05.900 butcher it but i'll give you the sort of short version of it there's this candy store analogy
04:34:10.520 he uses where basically all women at the age of 18 i mean technically younger but
04:34:18.020 at the age of 18 just no requirement just get led into the candy store and they try this piece and
04:34:25.000 this piece and this piece and this piece and they're they're in there since they're 18 all the
04:34:30.140 men most of the men are pretty much outside the candy store and then some of them get let in in
04:34:37.200 their late 20s in their 30s mid 30s maybe even into their late 30s even early 40s and then they're
04:34:45.380 finally in they've been looking into the candy store the fuck why can't i be in here and then
04:34:50.980 they just fucking go crazy. Oh my, I'm going to try the fucking Laffy Taffy. I'm going to try all
04:34:54.720 the disgusting. I'm going to try all this shit. So for men to get to that level where they're
04:35:00.520 actually finally starting to become more attractive to women and being in a position in life where
04:35:07.080 they, cause I think men like experience, uh, for, for men being experienced and developing more
04:35:15.500 into masculinity, that's something that takes a bit more time. Whereas if you're just a woman and
04:35:20.020 you're just willing to get pussy you can get laid the difference is as a woman you could just offer
04:35:27.780 pussy and men will take you up on it but like it's not enough for us men to just offer dick
04:35:34.700 like even here's the two scenarios if you're pleasant as a woman like the the bare minimum
04:35:40.680 like and men will still fuck you if you're crazy bare minimum for a woman and it's i mean just
04:35:47.140 offer pussy. That's it. If you're willing to have sex, that's all it takes. Um, and it helps if
04:35:54.600 you're at least pleasant, but what I I'm including the pleasant component to compare it to the male
04:35:59.620 version. So as the male version, if you're just like pleasant and you offer dick to a woman,
04:36:07.820 that's not a guarantee that you're, she's going to take the dick. If a woman's like pleasant
04:36:14.020 and she's offering pussy men are gonna men are gonna take take it yes of course do you think
04:36:21.380 that causes like an issue where the men just are like oh i'm just gonna stay in the candy store and
04:36:26.760 not settle because i'm wealthy and i'm just gonna keep getting all this candy and next thing you
04:36:32.600 know they're like 45 on dating apps and like i'm still trying to figure my life out i don't know
04:36:37.340 what i want i mean so i i would say i would say that is a dilemma for some men because um
04:36:43.300 they enjoy the sort of novelty of a rotating supply of new women and it's perhaps it can also
04:36:53.120 be the case that they want they haven't quite found the woman yet that that is like oh yeah
04:36:59.120 this is like i want to have kids with her i want to get married have kids start a family with this
04:37:03.320 woman the grass is always greener so i mean yes that can definitely be the case but i think it's
04:37:08.100 also the case for women too women also encounter the grass is greener okay well uh i want a guy
04:37:13.740 who is xyz characteristics this current guy only has xy well that that would be you but um uh so i
04:37:25.320 no no um yeah i do have a question sure go ahead whose fault is it really if a man doesn't figure
04:37:35.860 out how to take care of themselves until the ripe age of 32 what do you what do you mean i mean like
04:37:41.380 there are plenty of men straight out of high school who are good looking they take care of
04:37:46.860 themselves they kind of have a good head on it's their head their shoulders you say it's the moms
04:37:53.620 usually like they coddle their sons too much yeah like in the middle eastern culture a lot of men
04:37:59.060 stay and live at their moms and their moms do their laundry cook for them all that don't have
04:38:03.860 to worry about a thing they want the mom's validation yeah i'm sorry i can't date you
04:38:08.140 because my mom doesn't like your hair that's literally how they are i should not yeah i can
04:38:13.960 see it being a developmental issue where they want to be generational trauma where like moms
04:38:17.960 tend to get way too close to their sons and they don't want to let go and they cling on to their
04:38:22.980 first borns like sons and then those men yeah and then those men go out into society wanting
04:38:30.440 a woman who's going to take care of them in the same way a mother would and not many women
04:38:35.120 are willing to do that yeah for a grown man especially exactly that's why like when a mom
04:38:39.600 gives that a man doesn't want to go i've got a new thing here a new thing okay um quick question
04:38:46.000 for you for you and for you okay we got three asian women here three asian women uh just uh
04:38:55.160 korean or oh everyone thinks i'm korean maybe it's the condition chinese yeah yeah and chinese
04:39:02.240 i don't even know i don't know yeah were you adopted yeah no i'm like my dna test says i'm
04:39:09.360 half chinese and half black white and a sprinkle of black yeah okay so the question is as follows
04:39:21.080 um for the you three uh have you dated asian guys no i have not dated any guys
04:39:29.600 have you had sex with a guy yes and he was not asian no would you date an asian guy i would
04:39:38.540 would okay uh have you dated asian men no and and you're you're 30 no asian guys yeah no um are you
04:39:46.300 attracted to asian men never are you attracted to asian men i am if they're cute if they're cute
04:39:51.840 okay too feminine uh violet over here have you dated asian men yeah my husband's also asian
04:39:58.100 is he chinese vietnamese chinese and vietnamese okay is his name kevin
04:40:04.380 No, he has a cousin named Kevin, though.
04:40:06.780 Okay.
04:40:07.860 So I assume because you're married to him, you are attracted to Asian men.
04:40:10.860 So I'm going to ask you guys a series of questions, starting with you.
04:40:14.680 Let's see here.
04:40:15.760 I guess...
04:40:16.900 I have a funny story, too.
04:40:18.840 My ex, we were together for a year, narcissist, but he was Jewish, but he looked kind of squinty.
04:40:28.500 He looked what?
04:40:29.160 He looked kind of squinty, like, in his pictures.
04:40:31.500 and I thought, like, if he was Asian, I probably wouldn't have dated him
04:40:35.740 if he had, like, Asian in him, you know?
04:40:38.080 So you thought your Jewish boyfriend could have been Asian?
04:40:41.920 No, like, when I met him on a dating app and then I wasn't sure if he was Jewish.
04:40:47.000 I didn't know.
04:40:47.900 And so I asked him if he was, like, part Asian.
04:40:50.600 Oh, okay.
04:40:51.540 All right.
04:40:52.260 For Laura, would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
04:40:58.720 Asian man.
04:40:59.760 Would you rather date an Indian man or an Asian man?
04:41:02.340 Asian man.
04:41:03.320 Arabic man or Asian man?
04:41:05.100 That's both.
04:41:06.620 Latino man or Asian man?
04:41:08.480 Latino.
04:41:09.760 White man or Asian man?
04:41:12.040 Both.
04:41:12.940 Going to you.
04:41:13.800 Okay.
04:41:14.880 Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man?
04:41:17.180 Black man.
04:41:25.420 Would you rather date an Indian man or an Asian man?
04:41:29.520 i consider indian asian but well uh i guess to differentiate so like that would be south asian
04:41:36.120 okay yeah i guess versus like east asians if we were to compare um like the chinese korean or
04:41:43.560 japanese to like indians yeah indian indian over asian okay uh would you rather date an arabic man
04:41:53.680 or an asian man arabic like middle eastern i guess yeah would you rather date a latino man
04:41:58.500 or an asian man latino i've dated latinos would you rather date a white man or an asian man
04:42:03.380 white man is there any race of men that you would rather date an asian guy for
04:42:10.820 what races are left i'm trying to think what races are left oh me so horny me love you long time
04:42:25.720 i'd rather be single
04:42:28.240 i'd rather date a woman i don't know um how about this uh would you rather date an australian
04:42:36.440 aboriginal or an asian man australian aboriginal oh my
04:42:42.540 okay you can get violet what you're married to an asian guy yeah can i ask her a question sure
04:42:53.620 um what's your relationship with your dad is he asian were you adopted no i was no well obviously
04:43:02.720 my parents were asian wait yeah wouldn't it be i'm not adopted yet right so what is like how do
04:43:07.120 you like view him i guess growing up yeah how do you think it affected yeah he's a narcissist and
04:43:11.200 i don't really respect him okay do you think that has something to do with your preference of not
04:43:17.020 dating asian men it might a little bit i think i grew up a little bit like self-hating on asia
04:43:24.340 oh shit yeah but um they're just also very feminine you know like i don't like physically
04:43:33.260 looking feminine yeah or like how they are they they're very delicate i'd argue they're more
04:43:39.000 masculine than western men how are they more masculine think of genghis khan okay this
04:43:44.620 They're more providers.
04:43:47.040 Conquested.
04:43:47.580 They're more loving.
04:43:48.440 That was a while ago, right?
04:43:49.980 I have friends that did.
04:43:51.100 Wait, question.
04:43:51.920 Would you fuck Genghis Khan?
04:43:54.240 Oh, I'm actually, that would be weird because I'm a descendant of Genghis Khan.
04:43:57.200 It's on my DNA.
04:43:58.580 I have like warrior ancestry.
04:43:59.840 I'll repeat the question.
04:44:00.760 Would you fuck Genghis Khan?
04:44:02.420 No.
04:44:03.540 Okay, because of the incest thing.
04:44:05.440 You have to consider that Mulan is a model.
04:44:08.880 So when you are not in an environment of handsome man, she gets to pick.
04:44:14.880 Violet, would you answer like yes to any of these?
04:44:18.920 What is it?
04:44:19.960 Like black men, Indian men.
04:44:22.040 Or like would you always pick Asian?
04:44:23.880 I would always pick Asian.
04:44:25.060 Okay.
04:44:25.720 All right.
04:44:26.620 And then I wanted to do, who here was born in a different country?
04:44:32.260 You?
04:44:33.780 Puerto Rico is U.S.
04:44:34.580 Yeah, nope.
04:44:35.140 Puerto Rico is U.S.A.
04:44:36.520 Anybody?
04:44:38.180 No?
04:44:38.660 I'm only immigrating here.
04:44:40.220 Hello, you?
04:44:40.420 Nope.
04:44:40.600 Um, does anyone, uh, somebody, who's Russian?
04:44:47.920 Somebody's Russian?
04:44:49.640 Oh, that's the girl who was super late.
04:44:52.380 Okay.
04:44:52.740 Uh, yeah.
04:44:53.340 So anyways, um, question for you.
04:44:56.300 Where were you born?
04:44:57.420 Iran.
04:44:58.220 Iran.
04:44:59.260 Ooh.
04:44:59.760 Okay.
04:45:00.700 Uh, question for you.
04:45:04.520 Oh, um, when did you, or when did you move to the USA?
04:45:09.220 2012.
04:45:09.660 Wait, question. So they speak Farsi? Is that correct?
04:45:13.080 Farsi, English, and you speak a third language?
04:45:15.780 Farsi, Turkish, and English. I lived in Turkey. I'm also Turkish as well.
04:45:21.400 Also Turkish as well. I have a question for you. So you were born, do you have Iranian citizenship?
04:45:28.560 Oh, I do, yeah.
04:45:29.740 Turkish citizenship?
04:45:31.220 Yeah, I lived in Turkey for three years.
04:45:32.640 So you're a triple, dual citizenship?
04:45:38.540 European. Do you have triple citizenship? Yeah, I do. You got U.S. citizenship? Yeah, I do. When
04:45:44.300 did you move to the U.S.? 2012, and I became a citizen in 2019. So you became natural, you were
04:45:49.900 naturalized. Yeah. Don't worry, I didn't smuggle in. All right, so I have a question. I have a
04:45:56.100 question for you. I have a question for you. And how long, wait, how long were you living in Iran?
04:46:01.780 I was there
04:46:04.580 Is it Iran or Iran?
04:46:06.980 Iran, okay
04:46:07.740 So I started the first grade in Turkey
04:46:11.240 So I was just in Iran for preschool, kindergarten
04:46:13.700 Like five years?
04:46:14.780 Yeah, five years
04:46:15.440 Here's the question
04:46:17.760 In a morally neutral, blame-free, hypothetical conflict
04:46:22.420 Between the U.S. and Iran
04:46:25.840 Where neither side is right or wrong
04:46:28.140 To which country is your allegiance?
04:46:31.780 The United States or Iran?
04:46:33.600 Like, if I had to choose right now?
04:46:36.380 In the hypothetical, yes.
04:46:38.860 In the current corrupt disaster, Iran is in?
04:46:41.780 So, I understand that the United States is actually currently in a conflict with Iran.
04:46:46.380 Yeah.
04:46:46.800 But in the hypothetical I just presented, it would be a morally neutral, blame-free one.
04:46:52.960 We're saying neither side is right or wrong.
04:46:55.280 To which country is your allegiance?
04:46:58.200 My people.
04:46:59.320 Which is what?
04:47:00.220 Iran.
04:47:01.280 Aha.
04:47:01.780 And then it's safe to assume, then, the current conflict the United States has, and there is a real conflict between Iran and the USA?
04:47:10.560 Well, the U.S. is actually helping Iran.
04:47:12.360 So there's, like...
04:47:14.140 Well, okay, I see what you mean.
04:47:16.640 So...
04:47:17.640 The IRGC, so they're taking down the corrupt government.
04:47:20.840 So the U.S. is actually, while they're bombing us, that's what we want.
04:47:25.920 That's what the people of Iran have been asking.
04:47:28.620 So I think everything's...
04:47:30.400 Okay. Well, let's, so you're saying, I see what you're saying.
04:47:33.840 So, okay. There are people in Iran who want to overthrow the current regime.
04:47:38.880 They want perhaps a more secular nation.
04:47:42.000 Yeah, because 47 years ago, we didn't have that.
04:47:44.260 Right. Well, you look at photos of Iran in like the 60s and 70s.
04:47:47.860 Princes and kings were coming, and it was like a free country.
04:47:50.240 Well, the people basically looked like it could have been America.
04:47:53.540 Exactly.
04:47:53.940 Right. They had dresses, and they, you know.
04:47:56.440 Americanized.
04:47:57.660 Yes.
04:48:00.400 But here's my confusion, right?
04:48:02.460 So you are in favor of the U.S. attack on Iran, I guess.
04:48:10.840 Okay, this makes things a bit interesting.
04:48:13.560 Let's assume that you're not a fan of the current regime.
04:48:18.140 No, I'm not.
04:48:18.740 Let's assume the current regime was replaced with a democracy.
04:48:24.060 And, oh man, this is getting super hypothetical.
04:48:28.140 Okay.
04:48:28.660 whatever form of regime you would prefer for iran for the sake of the hypothetical let's assume
04:48:37.160 iran iran oh my god has it it has the regime you want so in a morally neutral blame three
04:48:45.180 blame free hypothetical conflict between the u.s and iran where neither side is right or wrong
04:48:51.540 to which country is your allegiance the united states or iran iran oh boy if it would be the
04:48:57.960 it would be the thing that I'm thinking
04:49:00.720 which is before it used to be
04:49:02.820 kings and queens and princesses
04:49:04.600 so like you were allowed to fly into
04:49:06.640 Iran now you can't because there's a
04:49:08.400 dictatorship government right now
04:49:10.460 I'm not with Iran but I am with the US
04:49:12.460 for helping Iran overthrow
04:49:14.380 what's happening right now
04:49:16.160 the current regime
04:49:16.920 let's say it went back was it previously a monarchy
04:49:20.560 like there's a king and queen let's say it went
04:49:22.500 back to a monarchy and the people were a bit
04:49:24.500 more free or whatever and it wasn't like
04:49:26.540 religious theocracy which i believe no religious abuse yeah yeah so um question uh let's say this
04:49:36.020 okay i'll make put it more simply let's say the united states and the uh iran went to war and it
04:49:42.820 was like a not not religious it was a monarchy or it went back to whatever kind of regime you
04:49:50.040 would prefer which side would you be on iran or the united states i would be that's my home
04:49:55.600 i would be with them okay so um
04:49:59.580 i when you became a citizen in 2019 do you remember having to go through process well my
04:50:10.600 i was young enough where i didn't have to take the test so my mom and my dad took it for us we
04:50:16.500 became naturalized citizens. But did you
04:50:18.320 have a ceremony when you became a citizen?
04:50:20.800 No, I didn't. Okay, so
04:50:22.600 I was too young.
04:50:24.780 Well, you're, it's
04:50:26.360 2026, you're 2028. They had like
04:50:28.520 an age degree. So you would have been like 15, 16?
04:50:30.580 Yeah. So I'm actually
04:50:32.620 not familiar if people who are under the age of
04:50:34.540 18, if they have to do the process?
04:50:37.200 Yeah, I didn't have to. Automatically
04:50:38.720 they just get there. If the parents?
04:50:40.780 Okay. But like, is your
04:50:42.520 question technically saying like I would move back
04:50:44.580 to iran and when if it's the way i want it to be yeah like who wouldn't want to move back to their
04:50:48.580 country well i hmm this complicates things because i guess she i guess you did not take the oath of
04:50:56.760 allegiance i didn't know that was where you were going because if she swears allegiance to another
04:51:01.420 country that's big implication yeah i didn't know but in any case well the the issue still remains
04:51:09.000 that let me let me ask you this your parents swore the oath of allegiance um i assume
04:51:14.540 if i asked your parents the same question do you think they would say iran or do you think they
04:51:21.300 would say the united states like like if the countries are both going at war and it's the
04:51:27.280 regime it's a new regime that you guys like well they would move back there and it wouldn't be here
04:51:33.980 picking sides like that's what i'm saying i would move back there and i'd be standing with my country
04:51:37.820 not being here and doing yeah okay so your parents would move back
04:51:44.060 okay yeah that complicates well like i would move back too
04:51:49.600 um let's say there was a regime change and prior to your parents being able to move back like let's
04:51:56.880 say they're still still living here and there's like an immediate regime change but then the
04:52:01.740 united states like goes to war with the new regime do you think your parents would uh
04:52:09.900 have allegiance to the new regime the monarch or some shit or the united states i couldn't answer
04:52:17.980 that like yeah it's hard to obviously answer on behalf here's my position on this so your parents
04:52:23.580 did take an oath of allegiance tiffany can you pull that up super quick laura you're gonna read
04:52:27.660 it okay you might have to make it a bit bigger tiffany oath of allegiance i hear hereby i know
04:52:38.480 there's some big words here i'm gonna have you read it i'm gonna have the black queen read it
04:52:42.640 i hereby declare on oath that i absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance
04:52:50.040 and fidelity to any foreign prince potent potent thank you potent never mind state or sovereignty
04:52:58.680 whom of whom or which i have therefore been a subject or citizen that i will support and defend
04:53:06.300 the constitution and laws of the united states of america against all enemies foreign and domestic
04:53:12.460 that i will bear the truth faith and allegiance to the same that i will bear arms on behalf of
04:53:19.080 united states when required by the law that will perform non-combat that's that's fine and like if
04:53:25.400 i do do that oath and i have like a job in the army i'm with the united states because i did the
04:53:31.400 oath i keep my word so i haven't yes wait wait this is an interesting okay so it's interesting
04:53:36.440 um so you want to join the united states air force yeah i want to serve the country too
04:53:41.800 but let me ask you a question let's say there's regime change in iran and then we go to war with
04:53:49.680 the new regime and you're in the military well i have do you want to be a pilot my word yeah okay
04:53:54.960 so you're gonna bomb yeah if i have to yeah all right i guess that's kind of reasonable you're
04:53:58.940 forgetting she's for what they're doing it's kind of reasonable but that's she said if she was in
04:54:03.440 the military but i think you're anyways i'm not gonna linger on that this raises the question
04:54:07.680 Like, do you think that like kids that are naturalized under 18 should still take those when they're 18 or even I feel like there's a lot of like second generation, like they should take children for granted being born in America and like all that we have to offer.
04:54:22.100 And that's why we have so many like libtards that are just like, I hate this country.
04:54:25.760 And like my parents are immigrants.
04:54:27.500 Well, you know what's interesting about the immigration question is legal immigrants who come here, or oftentimes even illegal immigrants, they actually have quite a fondness, and many of them, not all of them, have a fondness and affinity to the United States.
04:54:46.420 It's the second generation, the children of the immigrants, that are ungrateful little shits.
04:54:52.440 No, yeah, I've noticed that.
04:54:53.740 I'm first generation.
04:54:55.660 I'm not ungrateful, but yeah, my parents.
04:54:57.220 You're second generation, I think.
04:54:59.320 No, I would be first generation.
04:55:00.880 You are right.
04:55:02.560 You're first generation.
04:55:03.440 Don't worry.
04:55:03.760 My kids won't be spoiled little shits.
04:55:06.620 Great.
04:55:07.060 Love it.
04:55:07.660 Okay, anyways.
04:55:09.060 I'll tell them they're immigrants.
04:55:10.060 I'm going to blast through the rest of the...
04:55:12.360 Let's see if there's anything else here.
04:55:17.860 Asal.
04:55:19.920 You're a strong, independent woman.
04:55:22.780 I am.
04:55:23.740 Men should pay on first dates.
04:55:24.860 Men should provide protect.
04:55:25.780 Men should be chivalrous.
04:55:26.920 The husband should be willing to die protecting you.
04:55:28.960 You have a boyfriend of a year and a half who pays your rent and doesn't even live with you.
04:55:32.700 I'm Middle Eastern.
04:55:33.300 He's a trained puppy.
04:55:34.320 Middle Eastern.
04:55:34.940 I'm wrong.
04:55:35.820 You also write that you will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage.
04:55:40.620 He said he wants to take my last name because I'm the first generation.
04:55:43.040 Oh, no.
04:55:43.900 I never heard of that.
04:55:44.800 What is this guy doing?
04:55:46.800 What is she doing?
04:55:47.920 She's doing the right thing.
04:55:48.940 So she has her.
04:55:49.740 She said she wants him to be.
04:55:51.740 How's that the right thing?
04:55:52.700 Because I'm a smart, independent woman who he admires, and he literally said he doesn't
04:55:57.000 even want to be with anyone else, doesn't have eyes for it, anybody else.
04:55:59.580 Okay, but that is true.
04:56:00.580 Wait, what?
04:56:01.080 The guy I'm talking to, he likes that I'm a bad, but like independent, for you, who
04:56:06.660 you are.
04:56:07.400 I'm not saying that I am, by no means like a girl boss, but like, some men like strong,
04:56:13.380 bold, powerful women.
04:56:14.340 And I'm very bold.
04:56:15.080 Can I have you tilt your mic, come down?
04:56:15.880 You know what I'm saying?
04:56:16.600 I stand on my opinion, even if it's a little crazy.
04:56:19.120 That's what he likes.
04:56:19.640 I've done crazy stuff too, and I usually like that.
04:56:21.500 Okay, hold on, hold on.
04:56:22.080 Okay, so, but what's interesting is you want a traditional guy, right?
04:56:27.920 Yeah, like, he'll do the wedding I want.
04:56:31.340 Like, he doesn't write back.
04:56:33.940 He's exactly where he wants to be.
04:56:36.480 Yikes.
04:56:37.340 He's a good boy.
04:56:38.960 Submissive and beautiful.
04:56:39.960 Yeah, he's submissive and beautiful.
04:56:41.460 It sounds like she's...
04:56:42.300 If I could let a baby in him right now, I would.
04:56:45.040 Okay.
04:56:45.620 Can I interject?
04:56:46.520 Wait, wait, I need to finish this train of thought.
04:56:48.340 All right, you know what?
04:56:49.000 Go ahead, really quick.
04:56:49.640 it sounds like she's setting the tone and the rules for the relationship so even if he's paying
04:56:54.160 for the bills yeah i run a chill program and allowing her to go to school as well like
04:57:00.520 she's doing what she needs to do and getting support for it she found the support for it
04:57:05.860 no one else gave it to her handed it to her she she found the support and i didn't need it either
04:57:10.600 it was a little harder doing things you know all by myself but he actually
04:57:13.780 relieved some stress i can actually focus and take in-person classes that's why i've been
04:57:18.960 dual schooling in santa barbara i had to take gap semesters that's why i've been in city college for
04:57:23.480 so long i didn't have the money question brian okay yeah if you got a woman yeah who gave you
04:57:30.520 all that wild crazy sex that you crave so much wouldn't you give her everything that you wanted
04:57:35.440 i gave it to him okay whoa you make the assumption i think you have me confused
04:57:44.000 you've got it twisted
04:57:46.000 you have me mistaken
04:57:47.920 okay you think
04:57:50.160 all it takes
04:57:51.600 for me is crazy
04:57:54.120 wild sex you think that's it
04:57:56.160 you should see
04:57:57.100 you look like
04:57:57.940 so what's your life
04:57:59.080 we never asked him what his
04:58:04.100 body count is
04:58:05.100 you think
04:58:07.440 all it takes is a woman
04:58:09.240 by the way this is very almost demeaning to women
04:58:12.200 that it's okay as long as she's really good in bed that's all it takes um he's holding up a front
04:58:18.120 no there is no front here you blush yeah you blushing big time
04:58:22.400 you're romantic i'm right to begin with he's low-key oh you pay on the first date look at you
04:58:30.380 he pays on the second and third he likes women to pay on the first date okay hold on so okay
04:58:35.700 You have me mistaken, dear.
04:58:38.640 The idea that all it takes to make me happy is you being good in bed, that's very...
04:58:46.960 You don't want it to be good in bed?
04:58:49.240 Oh, my God.
04:58:49.780 Try to be logical.
04:58:50.880 He wants a small loan of 10K.
04:58:52.680 Two, three...
04:58:53.480 Hold on.
04:58:54.780 Guys, guys, you've got to stop interrupting.
04:58:56.980 Two, three, four, five things can be true at the same time.
04:59:01.400 Would I like to have a good sex wife?
04:59:03.340 Sex life?
04:59:04.420 Sex wife?
04:59:05.700 sex life with whoever i'm with uh yeah of course that's important but to suggest that just because
04:59:14.100 a woman is really good in bed which by the way is again is super easy and like i know what i'm
04:59:21.160 doing i want to be the lead like leading like this oh my god what the fuck no i agree it's just
04:59:30.120 like oh you can arch your back in doggy style good job wow okay i'm gonna give you everything
04:59:37.560 now no shut the fuck up no i agree with that i think you don't get shit just because you can
04:59:42.360 arch your back a bit fuck off that's all it takes to be good in bed as a woman if you can just put
04:59:48.080 yourself in doggy style and arch your back a bit that's all it fucking that's it that's all it
04:59:53.660 fucking takes in any case okay no but i agree like yeah a woman should have you know her feminine
04:59:58.900 Yeah, I'm in an energy and be nurturing and bring peace to the household.
05:00:01.960 Yes, she's got to be submissive and she's got to bow and she's got to do my laundry and she's got to clean and cook and do all of that.
05:00:08.040 She's got to do all of that.
05:00:09.420 But I'm more interested, not so much.
05:00:11.680 Look, maybe I'm wholesome.
05:00:14.500 Maybe it's my old age.
05:00:17.320 Sex, I'm more interested in the things that a woman can do for me beyond sex.
05:00:25.920 All women have pussies.
05:00:27.620 All women have mouths.
05:00:28.900 But not all women can bring peace, have a gentleness, are sweet, are caring, are nurturing, are going to be good mothers to my children, are going to align with my values, are going to be virtuous, are going to be trustworthy, are going to be loyal, are going to be ride or die, are going to be cheerleaders.
05:00:51.640 And I don't mean like literally a cheerleader.
05:00:53.560 I mean like you should be supportive, right?
05:00:57.320 Supportive, have your back, et cetera.
05:00:58.900 these things supersede and transcend she sucks dick good so that's very demean uh sort of uh
05:01:07.060 i don't know i disagree with your assessment that mean you're the provider because you want her to
05:01:10.940 fold your laundry do this and that so okay hold on let's get back to this so yeah because she
05:01:17.540 can't be doing your laundry and giving you a little right well women should do laundry on
05:01:21.720 the first date but um wait but the most important thing above all because like men care about looks
05:01:27.660 the most so would looks be the first thing that's the most important and then all of those well i
05:01:33.480 think looks is the initial thing that attracts you to a person but i don't care just about looks
05:01:40.480 and i don't i won't like if she has all those qualities but she's 500 pounds and ugly i also
05:01:49.220 won't date her like just being honest so it's like it's the total package you want something
05:01:53.660 easy on the eyes too would you choose a less attractive woman that has all of those traits
05:01:58.220 or a more attractive one that lacks a couple of them it depends what she's lacking in specifically
05:02:03.460 i'll tell you this i would rather uh i i would pick say there's like a fucking 10 out of 10 woman
05:02:10.600 but she stresses me the fuck out and she's miserable like makes me miserable and she's
05:02:17.700 argumentative and she's got postpartum depression and it's gonna murk my babies or whatever
05:02:22.240 then uh no i'll take the like i'll take the six who meets like 80 90 100 of my uh non-looks non-sex
05:02:35.100 requirements you'd be surprised how many so this is like a hot take but i think women will stay in
05:02:42.580 a toxic abusive relationship because of like their emotional attachment and connection and trauma
05:02:47.180 bond men will literally stay in a physically domestic violence like where the woman's hitting
05:02:52.760 the man yeah just because they're hot because i know the guy i'm talking to his ex was like that
05:02:59.140 and yeah sure um okay but i want to get back to the prompt so the prompt is asal you said you
05:03:07.400 would keep your last name or hyphen marriage let's get a couple clarifications here so not only that
05:03:12.080 you're assuming you and your boyfriend get married he said he's willing to take your last name yeah
05:03:17.040 he wants to because it's cute he wants to i'm telling you she's doing the right thing and i
05:03:22.100 don't think this is also wait i'm gonna dig into that but okay um now question what about the kids
05:03:30.680 they take your last name too yeah okay um now you said good job okay are you christian yes i am too
05:03:40.540 Okay. So, oh boy. All right. Here we go. Um, now, uh, Sarah, you, um, you said you're
05:03:48.780 indifferent to husband or you, you keeping your last name. Yeah, I'm indifferent. I mean,
05:03:54.560 because of a culture thing, but so you said you're in your notes. I don't think you've
05:03:59.240 revealed this yet. Despite, I guess, forgetting your body count and having your fun in the
05:04:03.660 military you're you are now at 52 three sorry 53 you're waiting until marriage that's what you
05:04:14.520 wrote yeah you said no sex until marriage now can i ask you a question yes was that ever the case
05:04:23.740 for any of the other men you had sex with well i don't understand the question okay well you've
05:04:28.820 been married once right did you have sex with him before marriage yes and then you've had sex with
05:04:35.220 other men who you were not married to clearly before marriage yeah because you had sex after
05:04:42.700 after i got divorced yeah there was a time that i was not christian so at 53 a guy has to marry
05:04:49.580 you to get sex but every single other men man you've had sex with did not have to marry you to
05:04:57.260 get pussy. And what is the question about the last name? This is what we're addressing, right?
05:05:03.340 You know what? At the ripe age of 53, I might find myself wanting to do the following.
05:05:09.220 You know, every single girlfriend I had, I bought her gifts and I'd pay for the first date and I'd
05:05:15.060 take her on trips and I'd pay for everything. And I would, um, I would text her good night
05:05:19.380 and good morning. And I was very attentive and caring and, you know, paying for the dates. I
05:05:23.780 think i already said that i'd buy her flowers i'd buy her jewelry but you know what at 53 i decide
05:05:32.020 that the next woman
05:05:34.340 i'm not going to do any of that for she doesn't get any of it but i'm going to tell her that
05:05:42.480 she's the one i'm going to say you know what we'll wait till marriage for all that we can wait
05:05:47.720 till marriage but all the other women before her they were just fun they were just fun
05:05:52.180 And for the fun woman
05:05:55.220 She gets all the benefits
05:05:56.700 But the woman I want to marry
05:05:57.960 She has to wait until marriage
05:05:59.640 Does that make sense?
05:06:03.200 In a way
05:06:03.620 Does that make sense to you guys?
05:06:04.960 It does because maybe they ruined it for the rest of them
05:06:07.620 I think you didn't understand my approach
05:06:09.980 I understand your approach
05:06:11.100 No
05:06:12.100 When I said that I'm indifference
05:06:14.080 Is because your question is
05:06:15.700 If I will take my husband's last name
05:06:18.060 When I said that I'm indifference
05:06:19.960 is because it wouldn't hurt my feeling
05:06:22.420 taking or not taking my husband's last name
05:06:25.020 because it's a cultural thing.
05:06:27.420 Okay, but so broadly speaking in the United States,
05:06:30.920 the tradition is, and in many other countries,
05:06:33.980 the woman takes the husband's last name.
05:06:37.020 The children take the man's last name.
05:06:40.620 That is tradition.
05:06:42.200 That is gender roles.
05:06:43.640 That is the expectation.
05:06:44.940 Yeah, I don't know why you're shaking your head.
05:06:47.380 Yes, that is the case.
05:06:48.480 Let me teach you something.
05:06:49.340 In fucking Puerto Rico, they have fucking 50 names.
05:06:51.780 Is that it?
05:06:52.400 No, not only.
05:06:53.760 Okay.
05:06:54.580 Latin America as a whole, when a woman gets married to a man, you keep your last name and then you add his last name.
05:07:02.920 That's true.
05:07:03.500 That is true.
05:07:04.020 Okay.
05:07:04.480 I see what you're saying.
05:07:05.880 Latin America.
05:07:07.000 Well, guess what?
05:07:07.560 If I'm banging out a hot Latina woman and I marry her in the United States, I don't give a fuck what she's doing in Peru.
05:07:15.560 I don't give a fuck what she's doing in Brazil.
05:07:17.480 Don't give a fuck what she's doing in Colombia
05:07:19.880 She's taking my last name
05:07:21.820 Point blank period
05:07:22.740 I'm not saying no
05:07:23.680 And my kids don't have some gay hyphenated last name shit
05:07:28.180 The kids have my last name
05:07:30.180 And if she doesn't want to do that
05:07:31.960 Then back to fucking Peru you go
05:07:33.900 Back to fucking Venezuela
05:07:35.520 You want to deal with a millionaire
05:07:37.640 You take my last name
05:07:39.360 And my kids have my last name
05:07:41.000 Get fucked you liberal feminist bitches
05:07:44.080 What if she checks all the boxes
05:07:45.700 I have a loophole.
05:07:46.960 What if she checks all your boxes?
05:07:48.560 She doesn't get both last now.
05:07:50.500 You didn't let me finish.
05:07:51.960 But yours would be the last one.
05:07:53.520 You're Christian, right?
05:07:54.780 Yes.
05:07:55.160 You're Christian.
05:07:56.200 Ah, yes.
05:07:57.000 Okay.
05:07:59.120 Protestant?
05:08:00.240 Protestant, yes.
05:08:01.300 What?
05:08:01.940 Presbyterian, what denomination?
05:08:03.960 Protestant, evangelical.
05:08:05.960 Evangelical, okay.
05:08:07.560 Is the Bible true?
05:08:10.320 Yes, absolutely.
05:08:11.320 Is the Bible God's command?
05:08:13.080 Absolutely.
05:08:13.600 does it say in the bible wives obey your husbands absolutely wives submit to your husbands yes
05:08:20.060 great so if i'm the man and i'm married to a christian woman and you're a christian woman
05:08:24.320 and your husband's christian and the and he says you know what whatever fucking traditions there
05:08:29.380 are in latin america don't care i'm in the united states i'm a christian man you're my christian
05:08:33.240 wife the kids are taking my last name fine i said i'm indifferent it's like i'm not gonna fight it
05:08:39.240 That's what I mean
05:08:40.080 Do you mind if I interject
05:08:42.060 If you're going to bring up the bible and verses with women
05:08:44.700 And how they're supposed to submit to their husbands
05:08:47.700 You also got to bring up the verses
05:08:49.600 Where the men have to protect their wives
05:08:52.640 Exactly
05:08:53.160 In full
05:08:54.600 And do what the wife wants in their family
05:08:56.900 No, no, no
05:08:58.080 You have to be her rock
05:09:01.480 That is literally in the bible
05:09:02.960 Be her rock
05:09:03.820 Be her peace
05:09:05.140 Having her name hyphenated
05:09:08.180 that might be her brings her peace yeah would you do it like whoa wait hold on uh-huh wait so
05:09:12.940 okay um wait so wait wait stop stop stop she loves her family okay she doesn't want to forget
05:09:19.240 that name if her starting in only fans and like becoming a prostitute brings her peace
05:09:23.840 should the man allow it no if you don't want that but okay the man should like in all instances
05:09:29.620 defer to the woman and bring her peace but selling your pussy online is a lot different
05:09:33.820 but let's assume is it is it plausible that for some women being an only fans girl and being a
05:09:39.600 prostitute brings them peace like is it logically possible why are those on the same plane i'm
05:09:44.320 testing out your logic because your argument here is if the woman wants something and it makes her
05:09:50.020 happy therefore the man should do it there's that's not how like biblical submission but there's
05:09:54.780 reason to it as well the man can volunteer look the man can voluntarily do something for the wife
05:10:00.820 that the wife wants but if as the man as the leader of the uh the relationship of the marriage
05:10:06.380 if in his determination he says no that's the end of it and she accepts it that's biblical
05:10:13.300 submission that is fair man has the last word basically what if she's foreign and she doesn't
05:10:18.320 have much family and she's a first generation would you do it to make her happy do what like
05:10:24.040 just like her last name just why why are we exalting the happiness of the woman in this
05:10:31.040 situation because he's going to be the mother of your kids but i'm going to be the father of the
05:10:35.060 kids and i want her to have my last name she's my family and our kids get my last name and that
05:10:43.120 makes me happy why do we exalt woman but if you what the woman wants is up here what the man wants
05:10:49.480 down here if you love her then that shouldn't matter it should bring you peace that that's
05:10:53.940 what then if she loves me she should do this thing she would do it and that's then she should
05:10:58.880 do it have to sacrifice what she wants for you because you won't do that for her why is it so
05:11:03.420 hard to just have both names yeah why can't you and then you're you can have the last one your
05:11:07.680 name could be your children can have your name in full they don't have to have the hyphenated
05:11:12.000 but you can at least give her that in america as your wife at least to give her well this is why
05:11:18.100 I'm not getting married, but my kids are still going to have my last name.
05:11:20.780 In Latin America, children get both last names from father and mother.
05:11:24.080 What if they're middle?
05:11:24.760 What if you get her last name?
05:11:26.480 You're not in Latin America.
05:11:27.560 You're Puerto Rican.
05:11:28.440 Is that Latin America?
05:11:29.640 I don't think so.
05:11:30.920 That's the thing.
05:11:31.820 Is it Latin America?
05:11:32.900 Yes.
05:11:33.600 Hold on.
05:11:33.860 When I think of Latin America, I think of like Mexico and down.
05:11:38.960 Wait, hold on.
05:11:39.640 I could be wrong on this, but I'm not sure if Puerto Rico is strictly Latin America,
05:11:45.220 but I could be wrong.
05:11:45.900 is Puerto Rico
05:11:48.040 Latin America
05:11:50.120 very nice
05:11:51.200 you know what I'm wrong
05:11:52.200 I can admit it
05:11:53.700 widely considered part of Latin America
05:11:55.800 even though it is political
05:11:58.860 you never allowed me to finish the thought
05:12:01.860 fine Puerto Rico is technically Latin America
05:12:04.040 I was thinking you know
05:12:05.320 south of the border
05:12:06.560 Caribbean Puerto Rico Dominican Republic
05:12:10.680 is Latin America
05:12:12.500 Latin American culture
05:12:15.520 Women, when they get married, yes, they inherit the husband last name, but after the first one.
05:12:22.840 And this is what?
05:12:23.460 And then children.
05:12:24.640 I'm proud to be an American.
05:12:26.820 I never interrupted you.
05:12:29.260 I never interrupted you.
05:12:30.380 Let me finish.
05:12:31.340 Well, you know what?
05:12:32.120 Let me finish.
05:12:32.880 I never interrupted you.
05:12:34.740 In Iran, the women wear fucking burqas.
05:12:37.180 And you're not supposed to, though.
05:12:38.300 We're not in Iran.
05:12:40.140 We're not in Latin America.
05:12:41.620 I don't care what they do in Peru and fucking Bolivia.
05:12:45.520 Wait, hold on.
05:12:46.900 Did I?
05:12:47.720 I don't care what they do down there.
05:12:49.940 This is America, USA, and I'll tell you what, brother.
05:12:54.420 We don't do that here.
05:12:55.900 You know what?
05:12:57.080 Go ahead.
05:12:57.980 I'm sorry for interrupting.
05:12:59.320 Continue your thought.
05:13:01.580 Children get both last name.
05:13:04.680 Father's first and mother's last name second.
05:13:07.520 I'll tell you what.
05:13:08.400 I'll tell you more.
05:13:09.380 Let me finish.
05:13:09.960 Okay, sorry.
05:13:10.400 When I joined the army, there were too many people with the same last name.
05:13:14.820 So I had to use both last names so my sergeant wouldn't know which one to address.
05:13:19.560 There's so many Martinez's.
05:13:20.620 Listen, I'll tell you what, brother.
05:13:21.440 I'm in the United States, of course.
05:13:23.800 We're in the United States, brother.
05:13:25.740 And I'll tell you what.
05:13:27.280 We don't do that Mexican shit here.
05:13:29.400 We don't do that Mexican shit here.
05:13:31.620 We don't do that Latin American shit here.
05:13:33.980 If I fuck a woman, the kids get my last name.
05:13:37.840 Brian, question.
05:13:39.140 If I marry a woman, which I never do,
05:13:41.660 but if I didn't marry her, she takes my last name.
05:13:43.880 So how are you going to have kids if you don't like promiscuity?
05:13:46.420 How are you going to have kids if you don't like promiscuity?
05:13:49.280 What?
05:13:49.900 You said you want to have kids with your last name,
05:13:53.920 but you said if you get married, how are you going to have kids?
05:13:57.220 You'll never get married.
05:13:58.580 You're just going to adopt a whole bunch of babies to force your last name on them?
05:14:02.220 What?
05:14:03.260 Pre-marital sex.
05:14:04.420 He doesn't fuck with the promiscuity, though.
05:14:07.360 Wait, wait, wait.
05:14:08.060 hold on oh my god uh-huh i don't have an issue with premarital sex that's kind of promiscuous
05:14:13.660 oh yeah that's what you said that's kind of this is not hold on bro especially if you get the
05:14:19.580 knocked up oh you're a whore now you don't want we're talking last name on so i understand that
05:14:26.380 some people would consider like the the threshold of promiscuity from a definition perspective
05:14:32.200 is going to vary from person to person like somebody who has like one boyfriend per year
05:14:38.140 uh and i don't know they have like seven boyfriends over the course of their life
05:14:43.000 and they have sex with those boyfriends some people will consider that promiscuous
05:14:47.560 some people wouldn't some people would maybe point to promiscuity being like
05:14:51.680 you didn't fuck seven dudes in the course of your life you fucked seven dudes last week right so
05:14:57.840 there's different thresholds to what constitutes promiscuity so i don't from my perspective right
05:15:04.140 when i use the word promiscuity i don't think that having premarital sex as somebody who doesn't want
05:15:11.940 to get married from my perspective constitutes or reaches the threshold for what i consider
05:15:18.240 promiscuity even if you get her knocked up wait what i'm i don't understand your question
05:15:26.520 so i was saying that because you want to have kids assuming you do not adopt said children or
05:15:34.380 go to a sperm bake for said children i'm going to have kids with a woman yeah but you said if you
05:15:40.080 get married not when perhaps that was a wait wait hold on i'm speaking in the general sense as it
05:15:47.720 relates to taking the last name right that's related to taking the last name so my position
05:15:52.760 on marriages i'm anti-marriage at least for me right uh so i i don't know i feel like you're a
05:16:00.480 bit bogged down on this i'll make it clear i do not want to get married but i can be with a woman
05:16:06.060 for the rest of my life and have kids with her and i'll if i have to i mean you've pumped out a kid
05:16:12.140 yeah the way you have kids is have sex when you when you add for the rest of your lives with that
05:16:19.100 person that makes more sense i'm over here assuming that you just like fuck someone and
05:16:23.480 then get her pregnant and off to the next one because she didn't work out i mean unless she
05:16:26.660 wasn't wife material so you just left unless there's like serious relationship difficulties
05:16:32.600 my ideal here is if i have like assuming we're you know planning this right um i i would hope
05:16:41.820 that i've we like have a conversation about having kids and it's like let's have kids now
05:16:46.880 So I'm hoping for that.
05:16:50.000 If that's the woman I choose, barring major relationship dysfunction, I'm going to stay with her.
05:16:58.920 So it's not like just fuck a chick, get her pregnant, next one, next one.
05:17:03.100 That's not the goal.
05:17:04.220 But I want to come back to the last name thing.
05:17:06.160 So there was a few other people who agreed on it.
05:17:10.360 I still have my ex-husband's last name, and I've not been married for as long as I've been married.
05:17:14.560 Okay, Jenny, you said yes.
05:17:16.380 you will keep your last name or hyphenate marriage why is that um because i respect men you got
05:17:21.640 please speak into the mic i'm sorry because i respect men and i'm not oh my god wait you said
05:17:28.060 yes that i will take the last name no the okay the question is or the statement is i will keep
05:17:34.740 my last name or hyphenate marriage oh no to which you said yes okay skip leslie you also
05:17:40.640 circled that i just like my last name so that's why are you christian uh no okay have you been
05:17:49.340 married before no okay um you like your last name yes i would like to keep it because i like it what
05:17:55.140 about for the kids uh they can have my husband's name okay but you want to keep your last name
05:17:59.900 correct okay but you also say men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should
05:18:03.840 be chivalrous yes okay so you want basically the man to be traditional yes but you won't do the
05:18:10.140 traditional thing which is take the husband's last name well i would be hyphenating it i'm like
05:18:15.780 yeah uh is this a deal breaker for you this no okay so if the husband insists then you'll yes
05:18:22.300 i would i would be like okay that's fine like but you would also like have a maybe a strong
05:18:26.800 preference for keeping correct or hyphenating okay uh asal is gone but i do want to uh quickly come
05:18:34.320 back to her on this uh because uh well i'll touch back oh there she is she returns all right
05:18:41.180 now you were gassing her up though you were you were like yes good for you so you think men should
05:18:50.460 be like kind of subservient to women not not necessarily what i see in her relationship is
05:18:57.720 that she has a well understanding with her partner like they both agree in their terms
05:19:04.300 so there is a good back and forth communication that's what I'm praising on her behalf
05:19:09.360 I mean on your end you find it outrageous that our that a man is is uh giving her the green
05:19:18.580 lights to do whatever she wants to not live in in the same city and he's supporting her
05:19:24.220 It's like she has her plans together with his blessing.
05:19:28.360 Right.
05:19:29.000 So look, I understand that there isn't just one way to do something and relationships can vary.
05:19:35.320 There's a negotiation that often happens and people have their wants and needs and there's a negotiation.
05:19:41.900 Anything can be negotiated.
05:19:43.760 Like I could, if very unlikely, but I could probably negotiate something with a girl and like say she makes okay money.
05:19:52.760 And I'm like, every single day, you're going to send me $200.
05:19:55.780 Like, that can be negotiated, right?
05:20:00.360 And sometimes you'll find these sort of unicorn situations.
05:20:04.040 In this case, well, actually, I wouldn't say it's a unicorn situation.
05:20:07.680 I actually think it's the unfortunate downstream effect of, like, feminism and all kinds of problems.
05:20:15.380 It's just because I'm Middle Eastern.
05:20:17.180 I'm Middle Eastern, so that's how it should be.
05:20:19.420 No, no.
05:20:20.260 Shouldn't it be super traditional?
05:20:21.960 if you're middle eastern like to stay out are you muslim no i'm christian okay you're christian
05:20:27.880 um well but you're saying it's traditional for you to stay at home but like what about you
05:20:35.680 is traditional what traditional usually like when you're a middle eastern woman you get a degree
05:20:40.440 like you either become a lawyer or something in law or a doctor or an engineer those are the three
05:20:45.540 you can't do anything else so you get your degree and you have an option to be a stay-at-home wife
05:20:50.780 if you want to because you'll have a husband who could support you in case anything happens and you
05:20:55.380 can stay at home okay but so i i guess my issue here is i i to make it simple you say men should
05:21:03.600 pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to
05:21:07.300 die protecting you take the bullet but you're going to keep your last name not only that your
05:21:12.680 husband's going to take your last name bruh um you're just jealous why would i be jealous
05:21:20.040 that's like fucking awful you wish a girl would want your last name
05:21:23.060 what well so i'm jealous of you no just at the last name oh okay um you make it seem like i'm
05:21:31.420 jealous of him because i wish i could find a woman who would insist that i take her last name so i'm
05:21:39.480 well he gets everything he wants so what does he get everything what does he get sex great this
05:21:47.020 is that all women bring to the table is sex he doesn't get his last name making a joke because
05:21:51.660 we kept having the sex topic what does he get he doesn't even care i don't do that he loses his
05:21:56.920 last name he gets my funny wit and my whimsicalness and wow because she's going into men love that
05:22:04.540 And I bring a lot to the table, actually.
05:22:07.180 The kids don't get his last name either.
05:22:10.060 The kids get your last name.
05:22:11.600 Yeah, I gave birth to them.
05:22:13.420 So?
05:22:14.060 For nine months, carried them.
05:22:15.520 Okay, so?
05:22:16.700 So?
05:22:17.220 So?
05:22:18.960 Yes.
05:22:20.420 What about celebrities, Ryan?
05:22:22.360 There are many celebrities that they don't take their new husband's last name.
05:22:26.180 And the kids get the mom's name.
05:22:29.520 Yeah, okay, so for the celebrity.
05:22:30.580 Like the John Lee, for instance.
05:22:31.580 Yeah, for the celebrity component of this,
05:22:34.540 That's what I would consider like, I still have reservations there, but there's like a bonafide business reason to do this whereby the woman, because of her name and because with celebrity culture there, like your name is kind of strongly tied to it.
05:22:50.140 there's like a, and by the way, many of these female celebrities are like super liberal and
05:22:55.500 non-trad or whatever. Like there is a bonafide business reason for the woman to keep the last
05:23:00.360 name, but it's not falling in line with the traditional dynamic. And if we're going to like
05:23:06.820 allude to celebrities, half of these Hollywood celebrities are transing the fuck out of their
05:23:11.740 kids. So I'm not going to look to fucking pedo wood. I'm not going to look to Hollywood to get
05:23:16.580 my virtues and values they're transing the fucking kids uh what what uh charlie's theron i think and
05:23:23.280 fucking who was the uh megan fox how the fuck are three of your kids trans it's literally retarded
05:23:31.740 so i'm not going to look at hollywood and be like oh this the way people are doing things in hollywood
05:23:36.420 is good brad pitt angelina jolie um seems like a total fucking demonic succubus to be honest and
05:23:45.480 pretty much probably like poor guys fucking alcoholic at this point probably because of her
05:23:49.760 well you don't have to go with tradition you know like men have to go with tradition
05:23:56.740 enforced by women and women get to be 2026 modern feminists why can't we just take the good stuff
05:24:03.820 from the tradition or the one that you come to agreement with together so the good stuff
05:24:08.360 is the thing the good stuff from tradition is the things that men uh the things that benefit women
05:24:14.960 and the responsibility and burden and duty on men
05:24:17.660 and then it's an abandonment of any traditional duty or responsibility placed on women
05:24:24.520 along with the benefits of modernity for women.
05:24:29.720 Wow.
05:24:30.460 Yes, of course.
05:24:31.380 You women want your cake and you want to eat it too.
05:24:34.560 Exactly.
05:24:35.520 Yes, exactly, but that's wrong.
05:24:37.540 I'm a woman.
05:24:39.040 It's the reason why you don't want it.
05:24:40.980 So I know you feel like the last name is like a big thing.
05:24:44.440 So would you make your girlfriend change her last name if you're having kids with her?
05:24:49.020 Because I know it's the marriage thing.
05:24:50.700 So there's a couple different components here.
05:24:54.580 There's what I want for my own situation.
05:24:58.580 And then there's like acknowledging the reality that most men out there are probably going to end up marrying a woman under that purview.
05:25:07.020 Like I can give prescriptive takes on people external to me.
05:25:13.020 so my personal viewpoint is like in terms of my girlfriend i i don't really care that much
05:25:23.420 um to be honest um but if she i would be impressed if she wanted to take my last name
05:25:31.340 that like makes it an extra strong bond and like i know you don't want to get married probably for
05:25:36.500 financial incentive yeah so marriage is out of the question what about just at the church and
05:25:40.320 Well, okay, this is a separate question, so I need to address this one first.
05:25:44.560 So, I would say the kid's 100% my name.
05:25:49.140 Even if it's a girlfriend, the kid's 100% get my last name.
05:25:52.900 Well, they have to.
05:25:54.520 What do you mean they have to?
05:25:56.520 Even if you're not married, they have to have the father's last name if he's present, unless stated otherwise.
05:26:03.380 Well, not legally.
05:26:05.360 They'll ask first and foremost if you want to do it.
05:26:08.240 Who's they?
05:26:08.700 the hospital where you have the child they'll ask if the father's actually if you're not married
05:26:14.400 and the hospital the the woman could basically veto this um and basically be like um yeah that
05:26:23.760 guy over there don't listen to him put my last name on the child the the birth certificate the
05:26:29.600 man basically has no say really he still has to sign it but yeah well he can sign it but i do
05:26:36.320 believe the woman would have final say
05:26:38.280 like if you're not married I don't
05:26:40.360 I really don't even know what the
05:26:42.240 like in some weird situation where
05:26:44.040 you are married and the woman wants the last
05:26:46.360 name for the kids and when a woman is
05:26:48.360 single and she has a baby out
05:26:50.420 of wedlock you have to take that
05:26:52.480 man to court in order to be able
05:26:54.340 to for the man to give
05:26:56.540 the last name to the kid if he doesn't
05:26:58.420 want to do it willingly. Yeah there's a whole process
05:27:00.280 whole process
05:27:01.660 but okay to answer your question
05:27:04.260 yes I'd say like
05:27:06.120 assuming we had kids
05:27:07.900 because some people get married and never have kids
05:27:10.300 and the wife could conceivably still take
05:27:12.440 the last name
05:27:12.900 I think I definitely preferred if she took my
05:27:16.460 last name after we have kids
05:27:18.360 I would want
05:27:22.620 her to want that
05:27:23.740 but like
05:27:25.300 my primary thing would be
05:27:28.540 for the kids, for me
05:27:29.600 but if I was a man who was inclined to get married
05:27:32.340 I would 100% insist
05:27:34.720 that she take my last name
05:27:36.060 But because of my position on marriage, I'm a little more flexible with her taking the last name.
05:27:42.540 So what if she was willing to take your last name?
05:27:46.720 And let's say she was pregnant or something.
05:27:48.120 She's like, I don't really want to take your last name unless you just like get on one knee and put a ring on my finger and just like take a cute picture at the beach with a bouquet of flowers and a white dress.
05:28:01.040 Would you do that for her?
05:28:02.580 Like just so she's like, I would.
05:28:04.520 And she this is a deal breaker.
05:28:06.060 for her yeah just put it like it doesn't have to be expensive like just like a ring just like a
05:28:09.740 symbolic thing like oh okay you're not talking about legal marriage no no no symbolically no
05:28:15.060 no legal papers it's just like it would make me happy like hold on but it's a deal breaker for her
05:28:19.080 so she says if you don't do this we're gonna have a problem well let's just say it's like speak to
05:28:23.820 the mic sorry let's just say it's really really important to her and you know you guys are in
05:28:27.260 love you want to start a family she doesn't care about the legal document she's like you know if
05:28:31.400 i'm taking your last name can you just like i don't know put a ring on my finger like just like
05:28:38.040 for the metaphorical like oh we're making vows to each other we're starting a family if she does it
05:28:43.660 as an ultimatum uh congratulations you're now single mom but if she does it in like a feminine
05:28:51.180 like in a sort of feminine bubbly sort of way and i still had the ultimate authority and decision
05:28:59.720 making on that thing, then I don't have like an objection to a non-legal ceremonial thing just so
05:29:06.860 she can feel happy about it or whatever. I guess that's fine. But most women when they're seeking
05:29:12.620 marriage, it's not just for the ceremony. They want the legal component too. So like presenting
05:29:18.820 me with the, by the way, like, I mean, but I don't know. Most women are not like, I just want the
05:29:26.720 ceremony a lot of these women want the legal ceremony so i don't know or the legal marriage
05:29:31.420 so if you broke up with a baby mama would you want to keep the kids or let her have them
05:29:37.240 it depends the it really depends on the circumstances in what circumstance
05:29:42.660 like in a situation like that or or like yeah like whether it would wouldn't i mean we'll
05:29:48.840 co-parent i guess okay would you want more kids but like would you have another and then have
05:29:55.080 more kids with someone else yeah probably yep uh okay uh i guess the final thing from this anyways
05:30:03.660 uh almost all of you say not all of you but uh men should pay on first dates why is that
05:30:09.400 it's just the first date it's not like i said second third and fourth we can split it i think
05:30:14.500 a lot of women expect it beyond the first date but it's a it's a good gesture it's a good sentiment
05:30:19.880 i wouldn't mind paying half for the first date i have before and i've been with that person for a
05:30:25.880 while as well too but it's just like flowers i wouldn't just saying hey i wouldn't i'm sorry
05:30:31.480 you're paying for the whole date you're picking me up and because i'm gonna woo you too and you
05:30:37.080 need to woo me too how would you woo a man well you know that's like when you're having conversations
05:30:41.320 a man could see if you are the woman that he wants your personality and everything he would
05:30:46.680 want to spend more money on you you know what I'm trying to say like after the first date that's
05:30:52.600 when he decides if he wants to continue more dates and dates after that but that's the trial
05:30:57.560 run he's going to spend money it's an investment yeah so I didn't really hear an argument for why
05:31:04.040 men should pay on first dates though why well I said they should why because if they in a way like
05:31:12.260 i feel like men when they do that it's very attractive like yeah but why because they're
05:31:19.200 taking control and providing okay why shouldn't they do that though because they're providing
05:31:26.360 women like it that's it no because they like doing it i've most men i don't know if you guys
05:31:32.220 they love providing like my boyfriend loves it like and other men i've dated they love spending
05:31:37.880 money they don't even care because it brings them joy you guys have pay pigs it sounds like
05:31:42.760 no it sounds like they actually just i think it's a point of dominance too because i've dated i was
05:31:47.920 a corporate girl right and i've made more money than my partner and that was a issue even though
05:31:52.980 they didn't say it was because it it made them feel less masculine and now when i date guys that
05:31:57.460 are make significantly more like i think it helps a lot more that i don't make more than them yeah
05:32:03.620 they like it they like 50 50 or 30 70 or you know like i haven't met a man that doesn't like
05:32:11.100 spending money okay um a man who has it will spend it happily on you should should should men pay
05:32:19.820 for women who are not traditional which is like probably every single woman at this well if that's
05:32:27.080 his type then he's gonna pay he has his preference okay hold on these are two separate concepts here
05:32:33.000 So I understand you could be a literal fucking prostitute and some dude is going to pay for dates.
05:32:41.460 Like you could be walking around with three other dudes semen inside of you and the guy might even know.
05:32:48.140 You're his type.
05:32:48.580 And he's, it's disgusting.
05:32:50.480 He will still, oh, let me take you on a date and I'll pay for the date.
05:32:54.800 So I understand that, right?
05:32:56.080 So you women can be the most modern fucking non-traditional women to have ever existed in all of human history and there are still men out there who are going to take you to a restaurant and pay for the date and do X, Y, Z.
05:33:09.900 I understand that men still do it.
05:33:11.900 I'm having – I'm more interested in having like a sort of societal analysis thing of do you deserve it.
05:33:22.400 So I understand you get it.
05:33:24.160 Do you deserve it?
05:33:26.080 Well, I don't make that decision. He does. He likes spending it.
05:33:29.080 So I don't go saying spend money on me because I deserve it.
05:33:32.540 Why should the man play the traditional masculine role of paying for meals, paying for dates,
05:33:39.280 if the woman is not going to play the traditional feminine role in return?
05:33:44.760 Well, don't go out with her.
05:33:45.800 Don't go out with her. You find your own person.
05:33:47.800 I think that's fine.
05:33:49.160 But I think the issue comes when you have modern feminist women, like most of you,
05:33:54.420 who have an expectation that men pay for dates.
05:33:57.700 So I understand that, right?
05:33:58.960 But the expectation, I understand men will still do it, right?
05:34:02.360 And you might say, go find a traditional woman.
05:34:04.700 I'm fine with that too.
05:34:06.420 But you as tradition, or excuse me,
05:34:09.280 you as modern feminist, egalitarian women,
05:34:13.420 you still demand, expect, and uphold
05:34:17.080 this basically patriarchal gender norm on men.
05:34:22.560 Explain it to me.
05:34:23.600 reconcile to me well they set that system up oh my god bro this is like a meme they like
05:34:30.360 men set that system up yeah they like doing it they feel dominance over us like no matter how
05:34:35.660 no this is the idea that men set that system up women uphold this system if women tomorrow were
05:34:43.840 like we will pay for dates and we will still fuck you men would stop paying
05:34:51.520 that has happened to me
05:34:54.260 like women
05:34:56.320 enforce this by saying here
05:34:58.320 look let's go around the table let's say
05:35:00.460 you go out on a date with a guy
05:35:02.000 and he asked you on the date which
05:35:04.420 is you guys don't do
05:35:06.400 that to begin with he asked you
05:35:08.380 on the first date the way you go
05:35:10.480 get dinner it's a hundred bucks
05:35:12.520 200 bucks whatever
05:35:14.160 the waiter comes and he says
05:35:16.220 two checks
05:35:17.000 are you gonna go on the second
05:35:20.360 date with the guy no
05:35:22.040 Well, I'm going to pay for the whole thing.
05:35:23.760 Okay, great.
05:35:24.460 Thank you.
05:35:25.000 No.
05:35:25.560 No.
05:35:26.800 No.
05:35:27.320 No.
05:35:28.060 No.
05:35:28.960 Yeah, I would.
05:35:29.640 Okay.
05:35:30.600 I will pay for the full check and block him.
05:35:33.520 So, no.
05:35:34.840 No.
05:35:35.500 Into the mics, please.
05:35:36.500 I'm not going to be a take me.
05:35:37.440 I'll go on a second date.
05:35:38.340 You go on a second date?
05:35:39.080 No.
05:35:39.480 Depends if I like him.
05:35:41.100 Yeah.
05:35:41.400 Let's say it's like, he's not the best man you ever met, but he's cool, I guess.
05:35:48.460 But as long as he communicated that, like, are we okay with doing two checks?
05:35:52.180 Instead of just telling the waiter, two checks, please.
05:35:54.780 Like, I need a heads up.
05:35:56.220 Like, let me know.
05:35:57.240 All of this, honestly, could be solved with communication.
05:35:58.520 Yeah, if he was, like, struggling and you had to be struggling, that's different.
05:36:01.460 Okay, let's, I'm going to bite on that.
05:36:04.660 A guy asks you out on a date, and then in the most polite, diplomatic way possible, he says,
05:36:12.100 Hey, I'm really looking forward to going on a date with you
05:36:15.620 Before I propose a plan
05:36:17.780 Would you be cool
05:36:19.820 If we go 50-50 on this date
05:36:21.660 You're going on the date
05:36:23.460 Yeah, I'll go
05:36:24.360 But you just have to ask and let me know
05:36:26.200 At least someone spoke
05:36:28.360 It just takes a bit of communication
05:36:30.060 So then what's the actual difference
05:36:32.840 If on the date
05:36:34.160 He's like two checks
05:36:35.460 Versus clearing
05:36:36.620 Like you're okay going on the date
05:36:38.460 If he pre-clears it with you
05:36:40.360 Because I think it's grimy.