NALA RETURNS?! Nala's Husband CRASHES Show?! Single Mom Wants $5M⧸YEAR Man?! | Dating Talk #210
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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we re back with a brand new episode featuring special guest, Nala Ray! She s back after almost a year and a half, and we re so excited to have her on the show again!
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said without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your
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name age location and occupation go ahead hi i'm nala ray i'm 26 um i live in south carolina with my
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husband and we started a clothing line company called be the change and we do race car giveaways
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all right welcome welcome and uh let's see what you've it's been almost a year i think since the last
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time you were on the show so it's a not the one year anniversary almost well since you last been
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on the show so yeah all right welcome back nala what about you hi i'm nora i'm nora fortuna i'm from
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germany and i'm studying at scc right now film and acting all right age i'm 20 20 okay and uh you're
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you said you're from germany yes okay uh what language uh what languages do you speak german i learned
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spanish german french and latin and i speak with my mom italian oh okay and then you also do content
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creation is that correct yes i do what do you do i'm doing only fans and i'm on a lot of platforms
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okay how long you've been doing of two years two years okay what kind of content boy girl boy girl
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content solo content got it cute outfits bikinis okay all right what uh i'm sorry just real quick
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can you say your name for me one more time my name yeah nora nola nora oh nora yes yeah okay what
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about you thank you um hi my name is mandy um i'm 20 years old um my most recent job was actually a
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spirit halloween and i did um custom like like uh bikini making before that
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uh where are you from uh northern california okay and are you in school right now no no okay
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what about you hi my name is by i'm 34 from texas and i work in education all right uh are you uh
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can you expand yeah i used to be a teacher but now i'm just um like in application processing in
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higher ed yeah and do you do van life what's that like living in a van i have no idea where i got
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that did you get that from my name on instagram no on the side i make rings um so i make rings and
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my husband does some stickers which i gifted you yeah thank you for the stickers appreciate it they're
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very good andrew is one of the stickers and i wanted him to see his face i'll show it to him
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later and uh what about you do i have like demon horns coming out or
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it's it's um it's whenever i don't know it's a funny face you made in one of the podcasts i'm a fan
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yeah hi i'm justy um i'm 19 uh i'm from southern california uh i go to school in uh westmont i'm
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studying business and i have an art minor and um i play college tennis all right very cool very cool
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hi my name is alanis i'm from pasague new jersey i'm 22 years old and my occupations are
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phlebotomists and i'm also an independent recording artist um in more like spanish music
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and also i'm a student and my major is in health care all right what about you hi i'm natalie i'm
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almost 21 a couple more weeks and i go to westmont college i'm studying business all right and where
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are you from originally i'm from oregon oregon okay what about you hi i'm jessica i'm 33 i'm from
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houston texas i'm currently a stay-at-home mom but i'm working to get my certification in cyber
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security oh damn pop off you said 33 right yes 33 all right how many uh how many kids five
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wow you look so young oh yeah thank you thank you you too well done i have one but five that's crazy
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well i'm a blended family so i have three of my own and then my husband has two of his own but
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together we have five all right uh brian atlas 35 santa barbara california host of the whatever
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podcast washed up has been over the hill youtuber andrew what about you
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yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's a popular entertainment
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platform on youtube i'm a political analyst a political satirist i enjoy doing conversations
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and debates of all kinds across the country and i appreciate all of you guys coming out to
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whatever this evening to have these conversations with us all right welcome everybody we're going to
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go around the table once more what's your current relationship status if you're single how long have
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you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead so i just got married
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how long were you guys uh dating uh we dated october november december january five months before we
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got married okay so you guys been together for like a year since last october okay so about a year
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together total yeah all right and uh longest relationship two years two years okay all right
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what about you um i'm single right now my longest relationship was two years and i got out of the
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relationship in may or june yeah this year so you've been single for like five months yeah and that was
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the two-year relationship yes okay uh who broke up with who we kind of like both agreement kind of
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mutual mutual yeah were you guys making content together yeah okay all right um and so you've been
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totally single for the past five months no i mean we still see each other oh the two years yes
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um okay so you still make content together sometimes yeah sometimes when's the last time you saw him
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oh my god wow wait so last you saw him this morning yeah but you guys broke up we broke yeah because i
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went back to germany for two months and then i came back and then kind of you reunited and then school
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started and it's just yeah okay it's a lot going on you guys live together we did but not anymore
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just yeah my my roommate is gone right now so i have to take advantage of the apartment
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okay all right um in the five months that you've been single have you dated or uh had any situations
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with other men i've been on couple dates on double dates with my friend to support them
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but i'm really not interested in any other person okay all right what about you um what was the
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question relationship status yeah um so i currently have a boyfriend and we've been together about
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two years now all right and that's my longest relationship how did you guys meet um we met on
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grinder uh what wait we've heard this before we we had a girl on the show while a while ago we met a guy
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on grinder um what um so are you bisexual what's your orientation yes i am bisexual um i just wait
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isn't that for gay men or is it for lesbian so technically it is for like gay men and like trans
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people but i got kicked off of the other dating apps so okay okay okay to be completely fair um
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before all of this i before like i was on grinder i was in high school and i was just like kind of
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experimenting online and stuff and i'm not about that life anymore i don't do any of that kind of stuff
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anymore um but yeah so i ended up getting grinder and i met him and we really hit it off like we
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didn't even hook up the first night like it was like mostly like just friendly so it's kind of weird
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i know wait you said you were no longer about that life what was the life the whole life the whole life
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what's the whole life what's the whole life i was just i would consider myself to have been a sex addict
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okay um and that's just like i was just going online hooking up with basically anyone i found
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attractive and i looking back have realized that that's probably not the best thing for me especially
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a girl that young so i'm with my current boyfriend and i'm happy okay um we'll dive more into that
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in a bit um wait so okay you met on grinder yes what just um what are your pronouns i'm i'm a girl
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she she her okay what are his pronouns he's also he he him he was born with a dick like okay just
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checking just yeah just checking all right what about you i'm married and my longest relationship
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was uh four years almost four years how long have you been married for almost two years and how long
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were you dating before that two months well like four months four or five months oh wow okay
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got married quick uh so how did you meet your current husband uh through mutual friends okay
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and your four-year relationship who broke up with who it was me okay how soon after uh well wait
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how long ago was your four-year relationship it was a high school oh high school okay all right
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got it so you met your now husband at 29 30 no um i'm 34 okay math i'm the math 31 32 about there
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okay got it what about you i'm single and i've been single my whole life single your whole life i've
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never had a boyfriend um it's actually mostly parent parental restrictions um and even coming to
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college it's just i've had situationships um i've had talking stages that have never they've never
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gone anywhere okay uh what's the longest talking stage situationship you've found yourself in i think
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it was roughly around a semester so about three months i think that was longest and okay it's just
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didn't go anywhere sure all right and uh so three months you said okay and uh you're waiting until in
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until marriage correct yeah for sex for carnal knowledge okay all right so you're for you i am
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okay cool uh let's see here uh what about you um i'm currently single i've been single for like a
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year and a half around about two years um i got cheated on um i got cheated yeah i just had my baby
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and it was three months after and i found out i was cheated on since i was pregnant so yeah um i've
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been on a couple of dates on like dating apps um not my cup of tea i get annoyed i'm very picky and
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i'm very like i like what i want because i learned from that situation um so yeah okay uh very picky
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hold on before we come back to very picky i'll just get everybody's relationship status what about
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okay oh and sorry your longest relationship was how long really quick oh um two years two years
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the guy who cheated on me got it uh very single yes so no guys in the picture
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um i mean there's some cute guys at school but i my longest relationship was three months but i don't
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really count it because it felt very friendship level like we never held hands he hugged my girl
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friends he never hugged me it was really really awkward and then he's following like a podcast of
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like how he wanted to date me and then he sent it to me and i never watched it because i'm like
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why are you like basing our relationship based off of a podcast was it it wasn't this i promise i
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would have i would have watched it it was like i'm christian it was a christian podcast but it was
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very like ladder like like step one make eye contact step two stuff like that and i was like i'm not
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going to listen to this so that was a failed relationship i ended it um he cried and he was
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really upset with me and was really mad and all my friends told me like you did that to him and i was
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like well someone had to i wasn't gonna just stay in it so yeah how is that your fault i know i was
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like i'm sorry he was sad sorry you were the pants in the relationship i know literally i wore the pants
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but yeah so then i've had a couple situationships and talking stages i've failed and that's life
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okay so longest anything is what three months three months and you've been single for how long you'd
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say for a year wait what is it's november a year and a couple months okay got it what about you
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well i'm married i've been married for about um three uh sorry two years i've been with my current
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partner for three years but my longest relationship was 10 years wow before that
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from what age to what age was the 10-year relationship from 15 until 25 i think
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and you've been with your current uh your husband for three years yes married two yes okay and you
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have five kids correct these kids are from multiple relationships or yes um the first two are from my
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previous marriage um and the second one was a surprise and then my other two are my stepsons who
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are from his previous relationship wait i have five i have five kids two are his his my stepsons
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yeah then i have three biological children that are mine that i created in my body and from two
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different fathers correct two different fathers two different fathers yes and is one of which
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your current husband no we do we do not have uh ours we have yours and then we have mine
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and that's it no hours okay so there's uh in terms of the children in your household three
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different fathers yes yeah there are three different i see baby biological fathers yes all right in the
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situation like math ain't math the math is struggling
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all right uh okay cool so that's everybody's uh relationship status so uh i want to come back
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your relationship status are you still single oh you single pringle i'm i'm a virgin amen oh oh are
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you i are you serious he's a born again he's lying
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is it still that perfect number seven i'm waiting for the for the right girl you know i know somebody
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said he's a born again virgin too i'm a born again i'm gonna have to go back in the podcast and
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check this andrew got him he got the christian in him so i want to dive into the very picky thing
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with you okay so okay when you say very picky what does that look like so basically um everyone in my
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family says i have to lower my standards because i'm not gonna find anyone what um so the background
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for that story was that my um i'll give a name to my child's father so like um pablo yeah
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i met him and i really wanted to look for something that my parents created because my
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parents are immigrants they're legal here um they have their citizenship for over almost 35 years
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my parents my mom came and she was a single mom she came from colombia and she raised her kids by
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herself and my dad came from brazil because my grandma brought him here and so they built this
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empire together they owned this really great company and they took us out of the hood and
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they wanted us to have like a better life let's go and so i wanted to create that as my fulfillment so
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with pablo um basically i was scammed and so he he came from his um he's from a u.s territory he came
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here and basically was like yeah i want to get rid of the life that i had there wasn't a great life but
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i wanted to i want to create something so that my family can learn from me i was like great i'm here
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to i'm here to help you and so basically uh he used me i paid for a lot of things i would drive from
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five in the morning to bring him to work pick him up at three and you know and bring him home and i
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would spend all the time and what i got called was i used him i cheated on him i did all these things
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and i was there and when i was pregnant i was actually in colombia i was going to work with maluma's
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team and that's been my dream to do music ever since i was five and he broke up with me and then i
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found out that i was pregnant and basically uh we got back together and um when i was back i moved
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everything moved my schools moved i had no car i had nothing and when i had nothing i was discarded
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he looked for somebody else so now when i see a man i'm like okay what are you going to do well how
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are you going to serve me because i can serve you i'm very traditional i will help you right but what
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are you going to serve me it's not like a a 75 25 it's a 50 50 not on everything but how you're going
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to treat the other person you know what i'm saying did you ever women have like way higher standards
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nowadays for men because of this issue and i actually get asked that a lot on my social medias about
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like you know men literally asking me like why do girls have such high standards now for us like
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y'all aren't doing anything look the high standards the high standards because i got left with the child
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by myself and um she she's doing great uh you know um did you ever get back to working with maluma or
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just um i'm it's i've been taking a two-year sabbatical because this was a lot emotionally
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i thought it was end game with this guy and so basically um i have to go back to colombia it's a
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whole money thing too so i have to work again but i am recording music again that is that is happening
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so yeah um but you know things happen but that's where my high standards come from and i think i'm
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looking for somebody who is higher when it comes to financial than what i am right now well they're
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definitely out there so it's not like every man is just like a crap hole you know yeah there are so
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many men out there who are so willing to work and know that that is their role as a provider and know
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that they're that is their role in the family you know and are looking for that too so definitely
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don't get discouraged so before we get into your specific anecdote with this guy and you provided
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quite a bit of details as to the story and whatnot uh i'll save the anecdote for later but so very
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picky so what are your standards so basically um so let's talk physical let's talk personality traits
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let's talk so physical i'm not really picky when it comes to physical i mean um currently right now i
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used to be really skinny now i'm on a weight loss i have pcos so i don't care i learned everything
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physically um honestly he just has to be taller than me i'm five fives and a half so that's it um
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that's pretty and would like to be fit i mean she's 5 11 like
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um yeah i think that's it i like somebody who's really well groomed and your teeth say everything my
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mom told me you look at somebody's teeth you can tell how their hygiene is
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yeah so i teeth teeth hygiene is really big for me um but that's like but not their weight
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no why not i don't be hygiene how's that not related to hygiene um some people have issues
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yeah like i i couldn't lose i had really hard time losing weight because i have pcos so i understand
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that sometimes there's like diseases and issues involved and so i don't think weight is such a big
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issue but that's the same thing with teeth diseases and issues so like if we're just talking about
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what's generally true i would say that most people generally are overweight not due to a medical issue
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but because they can't put the fork down right because of addictive foods or whatever whatever
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other thing that you want to point at and the same thing with teeth i would say that people who have bad
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teeth some of them could be affected by diseases and that's terrible most of them probably just don't take
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very good care of their teeth right that that makes the most amount of sense right i kind of agree like
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i think that um most people who are like not everyone obviously like there are people who have issues but
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majority of people especially men who are obese because they don't really get pcos yeah um
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it's literally just a self-control thing and i'm not saying that's the case for everyone and i'm not
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saying that everyone has an easy time losing weight because obviously it's not an easy thing
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but i do think that it does i i agree i think it does have to do with hygiene and you're taking care
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of yourself like by having a good diet you know so i think that that is kind of important in my
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opinion or maybe they're not even there physically yet but they're on their way there like that is
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something that's showing like dedication towards what if they're making progress towards it yeah
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yeah i think that's like to clarify like i would i don't matter the weight but like if
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i want to see somebody who like like i said who wants to go to the gym yep who wants to like do this
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stuff you know what i'm saying it's not or it's just doing it you know like hey i'm going to the
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gym two times a week like i realize like i'm not in the place that i want to be at for myself or for
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my future partner but hey i'm getting there yeah that's just awesome yeah i think another
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oh sorry go ahead i think another thing is that like the teeth thing i do i think is like very valid
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because like weight loss can take a long time yeah building muscle sorry building muscle takes
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a long time but brushing your teeth you know flossing going to dentist can be expensive but
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if you go like once a year that's fine like taking care of your teeth is an everyday thing going to the
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gym is an everyday thing but taking the brushing your teeth it's a one minute two minute thing it's
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not something that's going to take you a whole month to get used to i would say that more people
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are born with bad teeth and are born obese right are you speaking personally or that's not a big
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well when we say bad teeth are we talking about sorry just speaking just speaking in uh in generalities
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right i would say that most people that people are born with bad teeth a lot more than they're born
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with a precondition towards obesity that's not a thing which is i mean that's this is a brand new
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thing in uh in the human condition right no no absolutely yeah no one can't help with the fact
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that they're born with crooked teeth and it may be a little bit harder to clean their teeth although
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they're still taking the strides to do it just because you don't have straight perfect teeth
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doesn't mean you're unhealthy yeah that's not i never meant that it must be real right like
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big underscore cheesy cheese underscore 69 donated 200 chair one how does it feel to be from south
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carolina where people can play football but not spell it hashtag strong
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why does chair three look like a horror movie muppet keep it up brian and andrew
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south car i'm not from south carolina do you want to respond to the muppet accusations
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muppet accusations wait did i miss something oh yeah so chair one chair two chair three chair oh yeah
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okay um i mean cool if you think i look like a muppet that's cool i mean dude the muppets made a lot
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of money bro make a lot of money if you're a movie you could you could a horror movie about muppets
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that's cool get that bank exactly uh we were talking about teeth yeah i feel like you meant
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like cleanliness yeah that's what i mean cleanliness i don't mean my crooked like it just if you have
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clean teeth you brush your teeth here so just opening this up to the whole panel uh are you picky
00:28:11.300
while you're married well i married but i was picky yeah absolutely like it really mattered to
00:28:16.920
me like what not only like what he looked like i want to be attracted to you physically but you know
00:28:21.620
obviously people are going to age through life but in this moment i want to be attracted to you and then
00:28:26.920
personality is such a big thing like i need to be able to laugh with you and joke around and pick
00:28:32.920
on each other a little bit not like hatefully but like i like that like rhetoric oh yeah like dude i call
00:28:39.980
my husband a potato he calls me an onion like it's like just stupid stuff like that but it makes me
00:28:46.120
laugh it makes him laugh like i love that stuff so personality is such a big thing i love to laugh
00:28:51.440
like it's my biggest thing i love to be cheerful um and then did he call you an onion because you make
00:28:57.000
him cry i said that today in the car i was like did you call me an onion because i make you cry actually
00:29:02.320
not at all this boy does not cry at all unless it's like a disney movie which is really cute by the
00:29:07.860
like like so cute but he doesn't like cry in real life but i call him potato because he's caramel
00:29:13.060
so he's like really tan uh he's half black i can call him that though so yeah you have the past i don't
00:29:25.460
know i love this like energy that we give each other that's like constantly like if you know if
00:29:30.220
i'm having a bad day he can lift me up and he knows the ways to lift me up and the same with him
00:29:35.260
like if he's having a bad day i know what it takes to get him up off the ground should we uh
00:29:40.280
he's here with you right yeah he's somewhere around town should we get him on the show later
00:29:44.980
what do you think like yeah like a cameo like coming yes yes i'd love that yeah maybe later
00:29:51.480
uh dude he's six four uh height was a big thing for me because i'm five six i wanted a tall man
00:29:57.040
because i want nice athletic babies you know so yeah that could be interesting um maybe we can arrange
00:30:03.480
that later on i'd love that you'd be down yeah okay that'd be interesting uh we have this coming
00:30:08.160
through yo metro matt donated two hundred dollars thank you matt you being overweight has nothing
00:30:13.680
to do with because and everything to do with what you put in your mouth and your lack of activity
00:30:18.400
plenty of women with it that don't get heavy cope okay i mean i'm a health care major so
00:30:27.280
i know more i mean it doesn't bother me i don't care i know i have pcos i did the the testing came
00:30:34.380
out positive i take metformin i'm going i also just had a baby by the way so like you gain weight
00:30:41.720
with the baby i yeah and you can gain up to 150 pounds legit so i don't care you can say what you
00:30:48.740
want to say i know my life i know that i go and i exercise i go to the gym every other day that's it
00:30:54.240
all right cool are you picky i would say yeah but mostly mindset wise like i look for a guy who's
00:31:06.300
like is on his shit who is disciplined who's like has consistency and like things and that just like
00:31:13.620
shows me what his future is look like also i look at his dad i'm like if his dad is informed he will
00:31:19.800
be informed too if his dad is like you know then he can when you say informed you mean physically or
00:31:26.280
yes physically and also just like what is my where his mind at if he's like still like childish with
00:31:31.800
his like wife and just like jokes around has a lot of banter then banter it's the best yes yes but of
00:31:40.440
course i'm picky and just like wait how long have you been in the u.s for just curious uh two and a half
00:31:45.540
years and you came from germany yes okay today uh is fraulein still employed
00:31:52.120
yeah do you do people still say that you said fraulein
00:32:02.380
are you a fraulein i don't even know how do you say it fraulein
00:32:08.500
what does this mean like a classy woman like a little fraulein
00:32:34.600
looking at this panel the chat is gonna have a barbecue roast tonight
00:32:43.200
yo whatever fan thank you so much for the tts man really appreciate it um
00:33:36.380
because i have to i mean i have to be physically attracted to the person i'm with
00:33:42.320
i'm sorry like i don't like they don't have to be like a model of smoke show
00:33:46.120
like i'm i have my current boyfriend like he looks amazing for me
00:33:55.260
like i don't need someone who makes you know a million dollars
00:34:02.900
i don't consider myself picky in that sense really
00:34:16.960
and um if anything it's just if they're willing to be up for the task
00:35:26.920
does he have kids from a different relationship
01:03:20.380
prenuptial agreement you sign the prenup you're
01:05:28.080
you're this loaded and he signs a prenup coming
01:05:47.080
have the same amount of money i know how it is so
01:05:52.520
money it's the same it's the same thing but also
01:05:55.080
it comes from a point that i don't want to be a
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provider as well i don't want to be the one again
01:06:02.280
paying for rent doing all these things paying the
01:06:06.820
bills paying all this stuff i went through that i kind
01:06:09.880
of want it to be that um yeah i have this money and that i
01:06:13.940
can like kind of 50 50 some bills with you but i don't
01:06:17.020
want to be the sole provider when it comes to 50 50 bill
01:06:20.600
you're a multi-millionaire you said that i don't think
01:06:24.160
that's what five a guy making five million dollars a
01:06:27.920
year is what you have the expectation of because
01:06:30.080
that's what makes him on par with you that is such a
01:06:34.140
stupid incredible amount of money like an incredible
01:06:37.540
amount of money five million dollars a year i mean five
01:06:40.880
million don't if you have that why the fuck would
01:06:43.620
you need to split the cost of anything ever that's like an
01:06:48.240
insane amount of cash for in other words here i'll give you
01:06:51.260
an example okay if you give the average man in the united
01:06:55.000
states right now at 25 years old five million dollars he'll
01:06:58.960
never have to work again and his retirement right he can spend
01:07:03.100
liberally and he would he wouldn't never have to work
01:07:06.800
again long he would have money left over after he died and
01:07:10.240
you make that a year i don't think i think right now because
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i live in new jersey which is one of the more expensive like
01:07:21.120
so he's an expensive country no not country sorry state
01:07:29.320
honestly i don't even think with right now how the economy is it's
01:07:33.980
like a million dollars is like is basically nothing right now
01:07:38.000
i'm just saying what are you talking a million dollars
01:07:40.960
that's a lot astronomical amount i mean think about
01:07:44.340
basically anybody i'm thinking about taxes so basically if
01:07:48.180
you buy a house it's like the minimum in jersey for a house
01:07:57.340
basically like 36 to 50 000 a month and that's financed over a 30 year
01:08:03.380
fixed rate so your mortgage per month is around 4900 bucks
01:08:07.220
with my my home so my home in texas is 360 000 right
01:08:12.560
but texas has amazing house prices no yeah i'm just trying to give you an
01:08:16.600
example so you can kind of understand um i didn't pay
01:08:19.320
360 000 in cash to get that house i i put down a down payment
01:08:24.860
and then i'm financing the rest of it through the bank
01:08:27.860
right um and then there's a percentage of interest that i pay on top of that
01:08:32.040
and so you know my my and then of course you know
01:08:34.720
property taxes so your mortgage is like thirty six hundred dollars a month
01:08:37.780
yeah exactly yeah it ends up being makes sense so it makes sense to me
01:08:41.020
yeah so it's not it's not um so when you're when you're saying that the
01:08:45.140
houses in new jersey are five hundred thousand dollars
01:08:47.760
uh to purchase you know it's not like that's how much they're paying up front
01:08:52.100
they're paying you know forty five hundred dollars a month that's what
01:08:55.080
they're paying which is high which is very high but but you know it's not
01:08:58.380
yeah and then also like grocery prices are very high now too
01:09:02.440
you can get right now i went to costco like two weeks ago
01:09:06.140
i only got four things it was 200 bucks i don't think normal people
01:09:09.900
shop at costco well and also like a million dollars is still a lot of money
01:09:15.500
like we're in california but that's still a lot of money yes i mean a million
01:09:19.400
dollars doesn't go that far in california no it doesn't go that far
01:09:22.260
but that's just california a million dollars here like texas like a million
01:09:26.500
dollars in texas will take you to the moon oh no yeah a hundred percent a
01:09:30.080
million dollars in texas you're like set because it's just different i'm talking
01:09:33.360
about like housing market how it is right now um rent right now in jersey is
01:09:38.040
ridiculously high wait so this is okay hold on for a frame of reference this is
01:09:43.500
ten thousand thousand dollars times five that that's what you're
01:09:48.380
requesting what you're actually requesting right damn bro why you gotta do that
01:09:54.300
times five per year like that that is an astronomical number
01:10:01.800
uh wait it's okay hold on um okay so uh and you have just one kid
01:10:08.620
yeah one kid um and you want so okay the guy needs to make five million dollars a
01:10:15.080
year how old are you willing to date huh like what's the age range that you would
01:10:23.760
past 35 okay so we've we've heard a bit about what
01:10:28.680
you want a guy to bring to the table uh so you want a guy who makes five million
01:10:32.840
that's a top it's more than one i mean it's what point maybe point one percent
01:10:39.400
it's more than maybe point zero one percent so you want a point zero one
01:10:43.160
percent earner point yeah point zero one it's like yeah so what are you bringing to
01:10:49.240
the table that because a guy making that much money unless he's like retarded
01:10:56.120
like he's probably got he can he's probably got a bunch of options
01:11:02.920
why should he date you i think um basically i can say that i'm a person that's
01:11:09.440
very much like um i help you out you help me out type of person i am a very
01:11:14.980
traditional like woman like when cooking cleaning
01:11:18.020
cooking cleaning um i tend to my husband that's how i was taught
01:11:22.000
um but i also expect that i be tended back um i am also willing at some point
01:11:29.820
if like the husband wants to have me stay home and take care of the
01:11:33.560
kids i'm willing to be a stay-at-home mom i don't have a problem with that um
01:11:37.600
and yeah i think i bring a lot to the table my i'm
01:11:41.620
a very very nice person i'm very very helpful and if you have a dream
01:11:46.380
i will like follow it if you want to start a business i've seen it happen
01:11:51.780
where a business goes successful i will be there um i'm basically that type
01:11:56.480
of person that what if the business doesn't go successful but he has five
01:11:59.640
million dollars so it's already been successful
01:12:01.840
but what does that mean to be there like no he doesn't have five million
01:12:09.480
a year well five million dollars a year that's but but like okay so
01:12:15.960
like be there like be there emotionally like you know be their shoulder to cry on be
01:12:21.460
there like but that's just a wife he's got five million yeah i also that's
01:12:25.280
honestly just like also like i want to be the nurturer like taking care of your
01:12:30.140
needs making a home actually feel like a home taking care of the kid that's
01:12:33.960
literally just a wife like um and i also want to go into real estate
01:12:39.260
and rent but okay okay okay hold on the question was what do you bring to the
01:12:46.860
what do you mean by like bring into the table because i can go 10 million
01:12:50.360
different ways i could go like as a person make you attractive to a man who
01:12:54.260
makes five million a year that man who makes who's a zero zero point point zero one
01:13:00.320
percent income earner no it's way less than that it might be
01:13:03.680
might be close enough like attractive like what
01:13:07.680
like physically attractive it could be but it could also just be like personality
01:13:11.860
personality i think you have great sex you popping out athlete babies like
01:13:16.280
the best chili in the world so let me frame it so there's no confusion okay
01:13:26.720
right and is just moderately attractive okay moderately attractive he's not the
01:13:32.080
handsomest guy in the world but he's not the ugliest okay just moderately
01:13:34.920
attractive what makes you guys evenly yoked why would he pick you
01:13:39.760
um i think that yeah i do i make athletic babies i was a varsity soccer
01:13:46.460
player and uh my family's based in soccer we're also a family full of
01:13:51.700
engineers too oh nice so basically i'll bring like
01:13:55.400
well kids when it comes like high iq high iq kids
01:13:58.120
have you taken the iq test i haven't taken an iq test but um
01:14:01.660
dude she's in school to be a plastic surgeon like
01:14:08.700
um and then basically i think just as personality i think i have a really great
01:14:15.660
personality i'm very kind and understanding and
01:14:18.040
very based in my catholic faith as well and then
01:14:21.160
with sex i don't like to talk about that that's a very private
01:14:24.160
conversation um but yeah i mean i got pregnant that's what i can say about
01:14:36.540
the man who you're looking for has five million dollars in moderately attractive
01:14:41.220
has so many options available to him it's ridiculous he has almost more options available
01:14:47.940
to him in women than almost any other type of man on planet earth
01:14:51.860
yeah right in fact like short of possibly being an olympic
01:14:57.020
uh you know athlete who also is a multi-millionaire
01:15:00.580
this is like the next tier of uh men who can basically get whatever type of woman they want
01:15:06.120
why exactly do you think he would pick you specifically
01:15:10.260
out of all the women who are available to him that's what the question is getting
01:15:14.000
i think basically um i'm not like it might seem because i want a five million dollar man
01:15:20.280
it might seem that i'm really like oh he has a lot of money
01:15:22.780
no i think it has more sense to be in the same type of
01:15:30.700
since i think um yeah you can have all the women in the world
01:15:34.600
and some women are some women are just there you can get a woman that really just wants you for money
01:15:42.000
you can get an escort you can get whatever you want you know i'm saying when you have that much cash
01:15:46.280
i think it's the person you need a woman that really at that point holds you down and is the
01:15:51.860
one that helps you manage everything i guess in the sort of sense what does hold down mean
01:15:56.540
yeah i was thinking of something is that like crazy i think let me google that shit i don't know
01:16:02.160
i'm too white to know maybe like hold down the fort like hold you
01:16:08.520
we're too white for the meaning hold on grounds you like grounds you yeah that can mean a lot of
01:16:13.300
things only the white people know bro i thought that was like
01:16:16.120
i thought hold you down was like had to do with money like if there's a rough spot financially
01:16:23.460
they'll hold you i thought that was it could be taken a lot of ways i guess it could be no no
01:16:28.320
yeah like somebody who like brown like grounds you basically okay yeah i feel like you know chains you
01:16:33.960
down whatever hold down oh hold on you're going a different direction just like the old ball and
01:16:42.680
chain you know um oh my god it's like uh wait how much money do you make per year right now yeah i'm
01:16:53.080
a student right now i well my my program is very rigorous so basically i work a part-time right now so
01:17:01.000
i can focus on studying wait a question for you so okay this guy makes five million dollars a year
01:17:07.480
yeah and you said you won't settle for less right yeah no i'll settle for like a million oh like a year
01:17:13.480
excuse me like a million a year wait is that the bare minimum i thought five mil was the bare minimum no
01:17:18.440
i said a million i thought i thought i thought yeah yeah prefer five mil yes you'll settle you'll
01:17:27.160
you'll settle for a million i might settle for it just depends i'm just for 950 you know um settle for
01:17:33.960
a million what about 950. okay i'll take it wow you keep you keep keep lowering don't settle i'm not
01:17:40.200
because don't know what you want right don't settle you have something no oh okay i thought
01:17:47.960
you had like you wanted to um what's your question oh so like okay you meet a five million a year guy
01:17:54.680
and he's he's into you and uh he's like what would you just stop pursuing a career no what if he wants
01:18:04.040
you to he's like i make five million a year you don't gotta work quit that shit um no i i won't i
01:18:12.120
won't take it why because my um i have you know situations that happen to other people in my family
01:18:19.560
where that has happened it's been taken i mean yeah i have a trust but how long will a trust last
01:18:24.920
you know with how the economy's i mean let's say you guys are married for three years
01:18:28.840
he makes five million a year he's made 15 million dollars over the course of the three years that's
01:18:34.120
community property you're getting half of that that's 7.5 million dollars
01:18:38.920
you're set you're set if you're married to the guy for three years dude yeah and if he puts it in
01:18:43.800
like a brokerage account or something that grows compound interest life insurance policy grows
01:18:48.200
compound interest ira i i also no but he said so five million dollar guy steps to you and is like
01:18:54.360
like we're gonna get married i want you to stay at home we're gonna pump out babies
01:19:00.040
you're gonna stop this athlete babies school because medical school very time-consuming you
01:19:05.560
want to become a surgeon that's super time-consuming takes years of time tons of money he's making five
01:19:11.160
million a year and he says this is what i want you're gonna stop no because i want to have
01:19:17.640
wait so even to the five million year guy you won't be submissive to him no no as in you won't
01:19:25.320
be submissive well it depends on why she'd need to be submissive if this is what her dream was and
01:19:29.640
if he loved her he would let her pursue her dream that's that's the thing if somebody would love me and
01:19:34.040
and no i mean bro dreams take a back seat when you're dealing with a guy who makes five million
01:19:38.920
dollars i don't really think so i say i i think like it sounds like he's submitting to you but what
01:19:44.280
what are the like what are the so your dreams you want to be a plastic surgeon to do what to make
01:19:50.520
people beautiful well hold on i mean that's what i mean if we want to talk about bodies you want to
01:19:56.040
give bbls you want to just like slice into people and give them fucking fake titties and
01:20:01.080
shit like that's your dream no i mean i make money right no so basically my my parents when when i went
01:20:07.560
to college were like okay they always knew that my dream was music like i always wanted to perform and
01:20:12.280
whatever well he was like let's be realistic you can't and this is probably going to be very
01:20:17.720
like something that that's um i forget the word controversial controversial yeah um so basically
01:20:26.600
they're like you to make no money in the u.s with music as a um well yeah it's very oversaturated yeah
01:20:33.240
so basically where are you gonna go kosovo where are you thank you beyonce where are you from oh yeah
01:20:37.240
where's your family history from my dad is brazilian and he's colombia my grandma actually
01:20:43.000
used to sing in the radio in brazil um yeah but i mean the music scene in latin america yeah completely
01:20:48.440
inundated as well um and then my mom's from colombia so i so the okay there's the singing
01:20:55.960
the singing bro his brain is butters but okay you want to do plastic surgery your your husband
01:21:03.240
if i like making five million dollars make you understand what what why i'd like the plastic
01:21:07.480
surgery because i see like your head is turning so basically the the singing was there until i went
01:21:13.080
to college and everyone started talking middle school oh what do you want to be a singing plastic
01:21:23.640
so basically when i um got to middle school they're like okay we got to think about college like you
01:21:29.240
have to be realistic what do you want to do really good at science i decided that i wanted to go in
01:21:33.960
into medical fields and then it went from basically being a doctor and going into all these like medical
01:21:41.000
classes to get ready to go to med school and then i decided to go into nursing and then now i'm deciding
01:21:47.160
to go back but because music it's really hard to get popular can you help me out with something
01:21:51.880
here because i'm so i'm so confused wait wait wait wait are we arriving at an answer or i literally told
01:21:58.360
though so you can understand why i went into like plastic surgery and stuff because i actually
01:22:03.880
yeah actually that's what i want to ask about because i don't i don't understand you don't
01:22:07.720
if i got this right okay my notes here you don't actually ever have to work again is that correct
01:22:19.800
i still have to work is it a part of the agreement in your trust i think it's a part of the agreement i don't
01:22:24.360
know what the what is the agreement in my trust all i know is that i have to go and i have to
01:22:27.720
work and make money and start my own business or if not i had to go into that your rules or
01:22:32.280
because like your parents set that up for you to gain money from the trust rules no they like
01:22:37.240
the people who own the trust set rules and stipulations i don't know what the trust rules
01:22:42.280
or stuff but when we went my dad's like either you're gonna go to college you're gonna study
01:22:45.880
something or you're gonna go into the family business that's it if i don't okay well then how
01:22:50.520
do you live right now how do i i work i'm a phlebotomist so i work on the weekends because
01:22:56.520
i have my daughter and i also have school okay so right now you're taking care of your daughter
01:23:03.240
and working and that is the income that you have yeah wait how much okay nobody is giving you i make
01:23:09.320
22 an hour sounds like a made-up word what does that mean you know when you go get your blood
01:23:16.440
test in the doctor oh yeah it's the person who puts the needle okay wait i'm just confused wait
01:23:23.320
wait wait wait help me out now just help me out here i'm getting to the bottom of this i'm almost
01:23:26.840
done right with my inquiry so you're the one working right now you're the one supporting your
01:23:31.400
daughter right now not your parents correct my parents are helping me support my daughter right now
01:23:35.880
financially okay so they send you x amount of money per month or something like this
01:23:41.560
yes and no what does that mean so basically um my parents my mom takes care of my daughter while i
01:23:48.520
go to school and my parents pay for her like health care like health insurance stuff like that so i can
01:23:57.160
focus on finishing college that's okay so right now your daughter's standard of living is based around
01:24:05.800
a 22 an hour single mother working is that correct no no no your daughter lives with you or you both
01:24:15.320
live with your parents we both live with my parents i see okay so you live with your you live with your
01:24:20.360
parents and you're working and you make 20 okay now i now i understand okay this this story right
01:24:28.440
has more holes in it than a swiss cheese block i'm just like trying to put it together okay so i can
01:24:33.080
figure it out yeah yeah yeah okay i have a couple questions here um you said a trust exists which is
01:24:41.320
valued at between six and seven figures which i believe i'm i've never seen it but that's where
01:24:47.640
i've seen do you only get access to it after like 25 or something like that yeah okay uh
01:24:56.680
i have a question if you were able to not work would you um yeah i mean sorry go ahead i mean it it just
01:25:09.240
i want to like establish somewhat of a career first and then if i was given the opportunity like
01:25:14.360
hey you want to be i know you like took your time established a career and uh you want to be
01:25:19.480
like a stay-at-home mom or like not work that's fine like i don't have a problem with that so as of
01:25:27.080
right now you're staying with your parents um with your daughter to save money because you don't want
01:25:33.080
to spend it yeah okay and that's why you want a man with five million dollars because you don't want
01:25:38.760
to spend the money that you have no i would willing to spend right now i'm saving the money um and i work
01:25:47.240
and stuff because i want to go to school and have a career so i can make amount of money because i don't
01:25:54.200
know honestly i'm i know there's a trust i don't know what the trust rules are and everything so
01:26:01.400
basically i you don't you don't know what the rules of your own trust are no we haven't had that
01:26:06.760
conversation i know what trust is okay i'm not gonna i'm not gonna show i'm just not good at
01:26:13.640
sugar coding things so i just i want to repeat back to you what i'm hearing so that you understand my
01:26:18.440
perspective okay and granted this is going to sound mean but i'm not trying to i'm just repeating back
01:26:24.680
what i'm hearing this is the highlight from this overweight single mom who lives with her parents
01:26:31.480
wants man who makes five million dollars a year to marry her under a prenuptial agreement that he
01:26:38.200
doesn't have access to the wealth in a trust that she doesn't know the rules of or how much is in it
01:26:44.200
is it does that summarize it yeah but you know i get it i'm overweight no no that's not the that's
01:26:52.840
not the key in point what i'm looking at is that that's the idea the idea versus the reality of the
01:26:58.920
thing that's okay that's what summarizes it yeah if you want to go ahead
01:27:04.520
i think what he's just trying to say it's it's a it's a bit not realistic your expectations are not
01:27:13.640
that's what i a lot of yeah i mean that's five million dollars that's why i said my standards
01:27:20.440
are high i don't and i keep saying that i don't know if it's gonna change now these are my standards
01:27:25.880
right now it can change when i meet the right man god doesn't know what he's gonna put for me this
01:27:30.840
is what i've been saying like all i've been saying well it can change this is what my standards are
01:27:35.080
right now it can change so that's what i'm that's cool yeah high standards i have high standards i've
01:27:40.440
been through a lot of crap so like it just that's where it is high standards doesn't have to do with
01:27:45.800
you know i've always wanted to ask a woman who said that a question the question of you know you
01:27:51.560
never know who god's going to send for you right i agree with that by the way but i gotta ask you
01:27:56.360
something if you prayed every single day for this perfect man and you never got him
01:28:01.800
and then he died and you met god would you tell god that you were angry with him that he didn't send
01:28:06.440
you that man that's a good question no no okay i didn't think that you would so why in the world
01:28:13.160
would you think that god would want to send a man to suffer right like why would he why would god
01:28:19.160
send a man with five million dollars to suffer because you really wanted that man did i mean i always
01:28:25.160
wonder if women ever think about the other way i'm sorry wait how would you suffer how would he
01:28:29.800
suffer yeah you need to do some explaining so this case right in this particular case um i just
01:28:37.000
summarize the position she's in right but if we are to assume for a moment that you think okay i'm a
01:28:43.480
prize or i'm the prize or whatever right i wonder if women ever internalize this in their prayer of the
01:28:49.240
thing one the thing i want i want thing i pray for things that uh you might suck right and if you did
01:28:57.560
why would god send a man to suffer for you that's what i always wonder i always wonder if they ever
01:29:05.080
think about the other side of the coin did god not send jesus to suffer for all of us yeah because he died
01:29:10.200
on the cross jesus is god's son yeah no jesus is god you're a trinitarian jesus is god well i'm not a
01:29:17.480
trinitarian i believe in the father son and holy spirit but he's called the son of god because he's
01:29:22.680
the son of god no he's called by john god himself he allowed himself to be prayed to jesus christ is
01:29:27.880
god yeah you can pray to jesus absolutely but he is god's son no he is god the trinity then why does
01:29:34.760
the bible specifically say that god is in heaven on the throne and jesus says at his right hand there
01:29:39.560
is two but they are also one yeah that's there is there is one god bible are you reading but isn't
01:29:45.560
jesus like the physical embodiment of god god so basically trying to answer trying to answer the
01:29:52.040
question right there right but what man what what does your question have to do with anything like
01:29:57.240
talking about a man suffering for her if god sent her a man how would he suffer it should be the right
01:30:03.240
no no i'm saying that why don't women ever have the expectation that perhaps god wouldn't want
01:30:07.720
to send them a man because he didn't want that man to suffer because the woman isn't that great
01:30:13.400
right i think if you reworded the thing but like that way am i hearing this right i don't i don't
01:30:19.720
i think he should have reworded it pretty well i think he should have reworded it to be honest
01:30:24.440
because worded are you saying that okay okay if you are you saying that like if god sent her a man
01:30:30.360
he would suffer are you saying that she deserves to be single because if god sent her a man he would
01:30:35.880
suffer i'm not doing any of those things i'm asking a simple question i heard my purview is
01:30:41.320
this yeah i heard that if you pray for x thing in this case another human being another human being
01:30:47.480
has free will you agree with me right they have free so the sequence here would be that god would
01:30:52.520
have to influence this human being to put him in your path through some sequence of events
01:30:57.160
if this is the case that that is true i often wonder if women who pray for the mighty five
01:31:02.600
million dollar man to come in and do whatever it is why they think it is that god would want to
01:31:09.800
perhaps make this man suffer on behalf of that woman i wonder if they god doesn't use people like
01:31:14.920
that absolutely not i wonder if they ever think of it in alternative terms i'm not saying god operates
01:31:19.720
that way i'm asking from the viewpoint of the person who's praying for a man did she ever say that
01:31:24.520
she was praying for a man yes that you said that you were praying for a man no i never she never
01:31:29.000
said that you never you never know who god roll it back i said you never know who god but i'm not
01:31:34.840
saying i'm directly playing a god i do i gotta move it on a little bit i have to do one more
01:31:38.760
question here and then we got to read a couple chats and stuff but just really quick going back to
01:31:42.840
my thing i said you meet this five million dollar guy and he said because you have your pursuits when
01:31:48.440
it comes to your medical school plastic surgery pursuits what have you nursing uh he's like oh i
01:31:56.120
want kids i want you to stay at home take care of the kids i think it makes five million dollars a
01:32:01.960
year i think i already answered this question yep yeah no but just clarifying so you will not listen
01:32:07.880
to him you won't be submissive to him you'll be like no actually i want to keep working even though
01:32:11.880
you make so much fucking money i don't need to work is just so i understand it um yeah that was my
01:32:17.880
answer i think if somebody loved me and knew enough that i wanted to start my career and stuff
01:32:24.360
and establish a career and but okay so what what is the purpose of your career
01:32:29.960
my purpose for my career like why do people have jobs and careers to get money to be successful
01:32:36.920
to make money to make money he has money and he's like you don't i don't i got the money okay yeah i
01:32:42.920
say that i want like what's what's it called like a five million dollar man i don't mean like oh yeah i
01:32:49.000
i want to live with his money you know what i'm saying it's not that i want to live with his money
01:32:53.080
yeah he has five million dollars then why but why would you want a man who makes that much money
01:32:58.680
so that you can go i mean i think it comes from hurt she said it a couple of times i've said it
01:33:01.880
it feels like she's come it comes from experiences hurt she was hurt by her last guy left by her last
01:33:08.440
guy if i dated a woman who made five million dollars and i could quit this podcast
01:33:13.480
he was a sugar mommy y'all oh my god but hold on wait so there's a lot of healing there you have a
01:33:19.720
lot of time off yeah you can get go to the spa you can go to the spa absolutely private trainer
01:33:25.480
private trainer a private dietitian i think those are just her standards based off of where she's at
01:33:30.760
now because of her let's let's let her talk so no i think you got it right on the spot can i ask a
01:33:36.280
question yeah yeah you you believe in yes yeah do you think god wants you to leave lead this material
01:33:42.840
life um i don't think it's materialistic i feel like if i had that money i would donate a lot i used to
01:33:49.640
i would i used to donate um actually um it was called you you how much would you donate can you
01:33:57.000
donate it to me wait wait hold on how much how much of the five mil per year are you donating um i
01:34:06.040
think i would like to go um i think i would like to open up more schools in colombia that don't have
01:34:13.400
resources and my grandma's work in my grandma's town there's a rundown school and they have to walk
01:34:18.680
like 50 like 20 to 50 miles to get to school or they get to a bus up a mountain so how many
01:34:24.200
how many colombian schools does five million a year get you um i don't think she said she would
01:34:30.520
give you said five million a year i said i would donate a lot i'm just curious i'm curious i don't
01:34:34.840
know i don't know like i don't know how much how much a mil a year i mean like two mil i don't know like
01:34:42.440
like so basically if i'm the husband in this situation you ain't donating my
01:34:48.920
fucking well i feel like if colombia can take care of itself no i feel like
01:34:56.280
so i feel like basically like talking about god i want i want to give back to the community i also like
01:35:03.880
yeah i i live this lifestyle and whatever but i do really like to help out with the community i've been
01:35:10.600
we did a lot of um drives for the pantry um growing up we've done car shows drives and we've done
01:35:17.320
things to give back i've donated money to um uh services and kids in colombia we that's sweet
01:35:24.680
yeah so so how so okay the guy makes five million dollars a year you're gonna be like
01:35:29.720
i want to give away a mil of the five mil yeah you want to give it or yeah what if he says no
01:35:40.520
we're not giving away anything because we need it okay that's well you got your well you got
01:35:46.360
yeah i got my own so okay what if he wants to donate your entire paycheck like he wants to just
01:35:51.880
live on his paycheck but he wants to take your paycheck and use it for your philanthropy that's a
01:35:56.600
good question that's that's my philanthropy like if i was like look we're not going to live on your
01:36:01.800
money your money is going to all get donated but my money is going to get lived we're going to use my
01:36:07.480
money to live live yeah um my money's going to pay the mortgage the groceries the kids all that stuff
01:36:13.240
your money you can donate it all to charity um then what no okay wait wait okay so hold on okay
01:36:22.120
in the you're catholic right yeah in the catholic faith aren't you supposed to be like submissive
01:36:28.520
to your husband yeah and you're supposed to tithe as well yeah that could be your but i did i did also
01:36:35.240
say that when we were talking about the catholic faith that there's a lot of things that i agree
01:36:39.160
with and i follow but there are things that i i'm not like a hundred percent like like would follow
01:36:44.600
like being a hundred percent submissive to the husband i don't i think that do you not think it's
01:36:49.800
biblical to be submissive and in what ways well like the catholic faith is not a buffet it's not
01:36:55.240
like you don't get to pixies and choosies the things that you follow if you're a catholic you're
01:36:59.320
you're catholic or you're not catholic it's a holistic it's a holistic form of christianity all
01:37:05.080
of it or none of it so that is catholicism like you want to like peg your boyfriend on like fridays
01:37:10.120
or something right i don't know you said you want like pick and choose so i feel like i don't think
01:37:14.360
it's like like you want like kind of a submissive well it's kind of cherry picking yeah oh it is
01:37:20.440
okay it's okay i don't no kink shaming here if you wanted to do that no i don't talk about this stuff
01:37:26.600
my bad my bad so basically um what was like you wanted like no i just feel like it that whole like
01:37:35.640
submissive thing also there's like a i don't think it's like taken as like fully submissive i feel like
01:37:43.080
because when they go submissive and the catholic people are like oh yeah you have to listen to your
01:37:47.640
husband but you also have to listen to your wife uh andrew why are you laughing isn't it so i will
01:37:56.680
explain andrew's just like this bro this is why we have beef yeah he has a maniacal laugh
01:38:04.840
i don't care if you say that you're a catholic or you don't say that you're a catholic i only care if
01:38:09.400
you say that you're a catholic and then you say something like but my version of catholicism is a
01:38:14.600
faith-based buffet where i can pick what i want and i can take that and then i leave the rest of it
01:38:20.360
and i only like the stuff over here and i leave this stuff over here that's not catholicism that's
01:38:25.480
some other allicism that's not that all right whatever it is it's not that it's something besides
01:38:32.440
that thing and so that's that's where that's where i get into disputes it's like if you say
01:38:37.880
i'm a christian and i believe in i don't know whatever whatever other things you believe in
01:38:42.520
fine i can accept that but if you say i'm a roman catholic that has super specific criteria you're
01:38:49.240
either a roman catholic or you're not a roman catholic there's no in between okay so i have a
01:38:54.440
question for you or anything external i have a question for you complete obedience to the church to be
01:38:59.240
heretical and non-catholic they would consider that to be non-catholic so if i have a question
01:39:07.160
right so you're talking about submissive like i have to completely like just be like oh hey like
01:39:12.760
you know my husband said one thing i have to be like yes yes yes yes so if my husband says like
01:39:18.920
um if my husband says do something unchristian huh tell you to do something unchristian yeah yeah and i
01:39:27.960
i have to well that's about being equally or unequally yoked like there's a there's also
01:39:32.840
a comportment to reason so god is the logos logi the idea is that the nature of god is logic and
01:39:40.200
reason that's part of god's nature is unchanging nature if somebody asks you to do something which
01:39:45.480
is external to christian ethics when you're a christian that doesn't comport with reason they're
01:39:50.520
asking you to do something which is absent reason and so at that point the reason you have
01:39:55.640
an ecclesiastical authority in your catholic church is so that you can go to them and get aid
01:40:01.080
in those situations that's literally what it's there for is the knowledge that there could be
01:40:06.360
a component in a relationship where one person makes such a demand which is a conflict with your
01:40:12.760
faith and you have an ecclesiastical authority to turn to who can mediate that on your behalf
01:40:19.000
okay well maybe we'll come back to it a bit later i do have to move things on we have a bunch of
01:40:23.640
chats that we have to get to nala devon jackson donated sorry for the delay davon we had to get
01:40:30.840
through did you finally get over the cheating kink nala i am so happy we get to finally address this
01:40:36.680
so as a viral creator on only fans like when i was on only fans about eight nine months ago
01:40:43.160
i went on so many podcasts because i knew the only way to grow my only fans was to be viral and it's
01:40:49.400
such an oversaturated platform right now and i've been on it for like five and a half years so everything
01:40:57.320
i've said on podcasts is complete clickbait i did it to go viral to then make money and so many people
01:41:04.040
believed it and it worked so that's what's so like crazy about the internet and if you've heard it before
01:41:09.720
it's very true the internet is not real so like everything i've said like oh my god i love cheating
01:41:15.160
like dude i was so freaking dead single at the time like who who would i have cheated on bro like so
01:41:20.920
for me i made up this complete character that everyone believed in and everyone was like i was
01:41:26.920
very controversial to people and i was very like some people really really liked me but at the end of
01:41:32.760
the day social media is just fake news so i never had a cheating kink i've been single for such a long
01:41:40.520
time especially when i was on only fans and i said whatever i needed to because i understand the male
01:41:46.680
brain and i needed to make money and i was like bet but isn't the counter to this position that if you
01:41:52.520
spent that much time lying about that why should we assume you're not spending time lying about this
01:41:57.160
because you can as a christian if you if you doubt me as a christian you should look at the fruits of the
01:42:01.960
spirit and if you really do like if you can't have an actual conversation with me to see where my
01:42:06.520
focus is lie now just ask god and look at the fruit of the spirit but if you're an unbeliever
01:42:11.400
i don't really know what to tell you you can think i'm grifting you can think i'm lying whatever it is
01:42:15.880
but you're just going to concede like you're just going to see consistency for the rest of my time on
01:42:20.680
like online instagram everything wait so you basically you lied about everything yeah pretty much
01:42:27.880
well like this is the thing again so like what what on social media is real like tell me what is
01:42:33.560
it like people edit their bodies is that lying yes yeah yeah so people photoshop like what so like
01:42:40.280
people can cast doubt on what i say now who are authentic on social media are you one of those
01:42:45.080
people i am i try to be i i am i tell jokes i mean i tell jokes right uh things like that but yeah i think
01:42:53.640
i'm pretty authentic no i'm not saying that there's not authentic people online i'm just saying
01:42:57.880
the majority of it like even mainstream media is lies like fake news because like that's what we feed
01:43:05.640
off of so like i don't know other than the cheating thing i can't think of like another lie like my hair
01:43:11.400
was actually red i did the ahago face i was a gamer i was a cosplayer like i worked for five and a
01:43:16.520
a half years on only fans yep okay here we got to get through a bunch of the chats we can come back
01:43:27.880
to some of the only fan stuff we have uh graffito tagged mandy would you agree that sex addicts after
01:43:33.480
some amount of time don't enjoy sex anymore at least not as much as they used to but they feel
01:43:39.560
a compulsion to do it anyways similar to drug addicts wow um i don't know that's a that's a good
01:43:46.440
question actually um i still enjoy it um i'll just speak from my experience i still personally enjoy
01:43:56.360
it um yes with my boyfriend i i have sex with my boyfriend regularly and we have well what about
01:44:04.360
i mean right now you do but when you're in the depths of your sex addiction were you enjoying the
01:44:09.400
i think at one point it got it did get to a point where i wasn't enjoying it and i was just doing it to
01:44:15.080
kind of yeah like similar to drug addicts it was kind of like numbing the pain you know because it
01:44:20.840
does release like endorphins and all that stuff so it's very similar to drugs what was the uh going
01:44:27.880
back into the i mean you were was there you're no longer a sex addict or i mean i don't i don't think
01:44:34.040
so i mean i'm not like online just like scrolling endlessly trying to find people to hook up with so
01:44:41.000
i mean i think my relationship helped with that and it helped me see that okay and get out of that
01:44:46.920
and you're 20 right yes from what age so wait you've been in a relationship for two years yes okay and you
01:44:53.320
is your relationship monogamous yes has it been for the entirety of the two years yes okay so you were
01:45:01.240
a sex addict from what age to what age i would say 16 to 18 right before i met my boyfriend okay and
01:45:10.520
wait when you met your boyfriend you were still a sex addict correct i would say so yes okay were you
01:45:17.320
uh when you met him were you sexually involved with other men um once i the day that i met him i stopped
01:45:24.760
talking to all of the guys i was talking to i liked him so much i was like this is the one like this is the
01:45:30.120
guy i want to be with okay but you were there were like other guys in the picture you cut them off
01:45:36.440
but there were yes there were there were okay um what was the scope of the sex addiction
01:45:43.720
um like and i can ask you more specific questions in what way in what way okay well uh what did it look
01:45:49.720
like for example uh in terms of the promiscuity you i mean people will well i mean i
01:45:58.520
like a drug addict i would basically do anything to have sex like it was it was my drug you know i
01:46:07.080
was um like i said i was going on dating apps at some point i ended up on grinder because i got
01:46:13.960
banned from all the other apps because like i said i was wait were you on dating apps under the age of 18
01:46:19.160
yes that's why i got banned that's yeah i know careful out there boys um were you i assume you
01:46:27.320
were lying about your age then i was and then i would like i shouldn't even say this but i'm going
01:46:34.120
to i would like on a separate app tell them how old i actually was so that they wouldn't like like
01:46:41.480
if they did catch a case i'd be like i did tell them which is really which i will say is really
01:46:49.400
manipulative and shitty of me like i'm not going to sit here and be like oh yeah that's okay like i
01:46:54.280
totally should have done that because it was fine because i was a sex addict no that wasn't okay
01:46:59.000
like i don't think that was okay okay um and so this started when you were 16 i guess you lost your
01:47:08.600
virginity held 16 16 okay uh and so like in the if you looked back at the peak of your sex addiction
01:47:18.680
how many people how many different people did you have sex with in like a week period like the
01:47:25.800
most i had had sex with within a week or like um just generally like uh at the peak at the peak at
01:47:34.520
the peak of your sex addiction i would say i would probably sleep with a different guy every night
01:47:40.360
every night okay yeah so like seven guys in a week okay um what about in the month
01:47:46.920
in a month every single day was there a month where you had a new guy i would say i would take
01:47:51.800
breaks i wouldn't i wouldn't always do like every single day i need to hook up with a person sure but
01:48:04.040
i don't know probably around the same amount of people i would hit up a lot of the same people so
01:48:08.200
okay and then so did you have ever do uh more than one guy in a day i maybe did like two or three
01:48:17.000
two or three like three at like my peak yeah like three in a day yeah okay uh and would these be one
01:48:24.040
night stands or did you have like a roster where you'd like see the same guys i mean a lot of them
01:48:29.240
were one night stands and there were like a lot of ones that i would like see regularly so okay and
01:48:36.360
you were mostly from dating apps you said okay and so let's see here
01:48:44.200
so what's the most in one week like maybe 10 guys or something i would say i i would say seven just
01:48:50.680
because like i said i would hit up a lot of the same people but you you did have at least one week
01:48:56.040
where there was one guy per day yes and did you have multiple weeks where there's at least one guy
01:49:00.920
per day not not really a couple weeks though maybe maybe maybe like spread out kind of all right
01:49:09.160
and so uh in a given month do you have a like your best month my best sex month your best month in
01:49:18.280
terms of how many guys you hooked up with i don't really keep track like that you think 20 30
01:49:24.920
uh i mean i started keeping track towards the end towards the end of the sex addiction yes i
01:49:32.760
started keeping track and i racked up like probably like 20 different names towards the end yes this
01:49:38.680
was right before you met your boyfriend yes okay uh do you have a sense of the total amount yeah do you
01:49:45.960
know your body count like i said i only got like 20 down so i mean i'm sure you could like think back
01:49:52.680
there's probably some i truly don't know i would say probably 50 to 60 max 50 to 60 max okay max like
01:50:01.240
that's yeah 50 to 60 max okay um which is bad by the way that's not a good thing and then you uh
01:50:09.320
you said three in a day total i mean maximum yes yeah so how would you do that would it be like
01:50:16.440
a guy comes over like you schedule them in like 5 p.m 7 p.m 9 p.m yeah the calendar oh you've done
01:50:22.520
that wait have you done that you've done it too yeah but like yeah oh you how many guys in a day
01:50:30.280
for you then three two oh three also okay um well for me it would be like i would hit someone up and
01:50:36.920
then we'd hook up and i would if i like if i had the urge kind of yeah to do more then i would hit
01:50:44.440
someone else up and then it would just kind of yeah but okay that only happened like a few times
01:50:50.840
sure okay uh and um girls too or was it just guys i mean i yes i have done it with girls before
01:51:04.360
not many though okay all right any threesomes no orgies more than threesome okay uh
01:51:15.080
so body count 50 to 60 i guess okay max yeah i'm actually curious we'll just we'll just do the
01:51:22.760
body count question out of the way now what about you 13 13 yeah but you said you did three in a day
01:51:29.800
yeah oh okay uh wait was it for only fans no okay no no wait could i have you tilt your mic down a
01:51:38.840
little bit let me and i'll let you tilt your mic down too uh okay wait so wait same people
01:51:47.320
what do you mean how many in a week how many in a week different guys in the week like four four yeah month
01:51:59.800
five okay uh wait but you said you've been single for five months okay and you were in the two-year
01:52:07.000
relationship okay uh and was this in germany when you did the three in a day no that was here oh here
01:52:14.680
in the us okay god germany that could not happen okay uh here let me make this easy okay so we got
01:52:20.760
uh the body count uh the body count zero zero zero okay that makes a little easier nala i have no idea range
01:52:37.960
i'm married i should do you get a pass on married people not really
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all right what about you um three three okay oh um i'm with you nala i'm like in my 20s i don't know
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i don't know what the number is okay all right uh cool sweet we gotta we gotta get through a couple
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chats guys we got quite a few i'm gonna let these come in what about you andrew derrick manks one
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i haven't seen you in a long time dude glad to see you changed your situation i only hope you can
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find pure happiness as for the columbian schools for the other gal are you sure right are you sure
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um what like to donate money for the columbian schools um yeah i feel like a lot of i feel like
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it's really un like we have such a privilege here in the u.s with the amount of schools that we had
01:53:38.840
so much technology and so much stuff and they don't have half those resources and i think that if
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people from america go to out to these countries and really like see how it is um and i have somebody
01:53:52.200
who takes pictures of them um but um it's my mom's friend's husband and really see how how it is you
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can i please talk on this wait do you still have question really quick do you still have someone
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thank you for the tts do you still have your lamborghini urus no i don't i sold everything
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i sold my house i sold my car i sold all the designer things i had if you wanted to throw the
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lambo my way i'll take a lambo yeah i will also take a lambo for free um so i would love to hit on
01:54:30.200
this topic so many people are like you're not christian unless you give back all the money let
01:54:34.520
me break down the money for you so number one i was living in california while i was making this
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money california taxes are ridiculously insane only fans takes what 20 only fans takes 25 of what you
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make it didn't matter how much of what i made my gross income that got
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so my gross income got taxed 25 so 25 of that got taken out then the tax i pay in california
01:55:02.680
then the creator people that i was with took 50 the agency took 50 of what i made so you're left with
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all of that whatever's left out of all of that taxed it's not like i just got nine million dollars
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all of that got taxed three ways and then whatever was left got sent to me so and no you do not you are
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not required and nowhere in the bible does it say so there was this one man that jesus told the soul
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sell all his belongings to and follow him there was one man that is not a stipulation for all christians
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to sell everything that you have and then go follow christ if christ told me to sell everything which
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i've already sold everything and follow him i will however giving up all your money is not a
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requirement to be able to follow christ so if you're not a christian or you are a christian and you're
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saying this you need to get that out of your head because if god specifically told me like reached
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down and told me you know what you need to be homeless in order to follow me i'd be like you know what
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i know you'll provide for me no matter what i'll be homeless but i do not feel called to do that
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regardless of that i have sold everything i own i literally drive a jeep now and i live in south
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carolina so what do you got to say andrew i'm really like i'm so intrigued i'm just gonna
01:56:18.040
i'm just gonna follow up on the super chatter by the way i mean i don't even know why you're so
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hostile with me we haven't even really disagreed about anything most of the night most of the night
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no no no i know absolutely but my thing with you is that like how
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how not even degrading but like when i came on last you were so hostile towards me and what i did
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and there was no love in your heart from me that was good as so as a christian you think it's okay
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you were a lying deceiving prostitute and you're like andrew why weren't you just nice like what
01:56:49.240
are you talking about good i have a question didn't jesus wash the feet of prostitutes or something
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by your own by your own and i just got a prostitute washed his feet deceiving deceitful satanic
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prostitute by your own admission satanic satanic wow that's a new one that's a new one hang on
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hang on nala you told me yes andrew you told me that that you had faith in jesus christ then that
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your parents were pastors that you had faith then you're getting it wrong already so to
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misquote you were gonna do it you can play the quote you can play the clip if you want
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finish let me finish and you can respond okay you said even then that you knew the truth but you
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turned away anyway okay so that you could basically make money now you say now okay well listen that was
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all a character i'm willing to believe that i wasn't will i didn't ever say that you weren't playing
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a character i'm willing to totally and completely believe you okay but based i there's no way for
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me to determine that i can only determine things based on what you said do you say to me well i'm
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a degenerate prostitute who lies about everything right and it's like okay what did you want me to
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say to that what what like what would you what what would you have wanted so number one you you
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completely misquoted me i never once said back then that i lied number two i never said that i knew what
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to do and knew how to follow christ i said that i was hurt by the church i said that my dad was a
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pastor five years before i started only fans so there's the clarification on that i was hurt by
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the church i've been there three dad knew can you play the clip because like this is crap i recently
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watched the clip didn't you say that your dad's not being a pastor when you're 18 years old yeah i remember
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this clip and i wasn't on only fans you you said that i was a bad father because i would disown unlike
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your father right because i would disown my my child based on someone i'm not saying you as a father
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should condone what your kid was doing on only fans but you keep interrupting what i have to say so it's
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like i won't interrupt you okay so just listen to what i'm saying you literally made this comparison
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he said you're a bad father if you do a b c d i said does your father know you do only fans you
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said yes and he's fine with it because you take care of him right that's what you told me oh
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absolutely that your father was fine with you doing only fans so is that a lie no no no listen listen
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i don't think as a father you should disown your kid because of what they turn out to be that's not
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their real life plan do you think i wanted to be on only fans the rest of my life absolutely once
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again interrupting me like i just said so if you want me to finish my statement and respect me as
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an adult that would be great so anyway my dad accepted me as his daughter yes i was supporting
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him financially was that right that he told me and actually was like encouraging me to stay on only
01:59:40.600
fans absolutely not i was saying it was wrong for you to disown your child just because of their
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life choices you said that you would literally stop talking to them and how right is that as a
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father to guide your child when the bible literally says train up a child in the in the way that they
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should go but you said if your daughter did only fans you would completely disowner so how is what
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you would do biblical i'm going to explain it's called consequences and there's always consequences
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if you look at for instance the prodigal son the prodigal son had to come back home and humble
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themselves humble themselves after they came back home after they squandered their entire fortune
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that's what they had to do okay so the thing is is like for you to say that if somebody is doing
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something that is horrific or satanic or something like this that i have to allow them what are in my
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home do i need to allow them around my family what do i need to do to capitulate to them nala which
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would make me a good father in no way shape or form let them experience the consequences of their own
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actions because that's what a good father does a good father completely disowns their child as in like
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stop speaking to them i never once said i never once said that you had to let your daughter into
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your home that demonic spirit into your home but what about praying for them sending them bible
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verses regardless of what they believe in that is honestly what saved me so you disowning your kid
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could actually have detrimental bible verses saved you um no i said that my husband sent me bible
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versus be with save you right um can i interject go ahead so when it happened to mary magdalene right
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and she was a prostitute and they were about to stone her what did jesus say mary magdalene was not a
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prostitute okay is that fake news totally fake news okay it is not a prostitute okay so when they
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were going to stone the prostitute where people can't come up with this okay question not a
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prostitute question next question um when it came to the prostitute and they stoned her what did jesus
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say he said let uh uh he who is without sin cast the first stone okay okay so so who are she's
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basically saying like who are you to cast the stone on someone like like who are you to judge her
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because we all you know what have original sin wait wait stop righteous judgment is an actual
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biblical first of all first of all i'm not i'm not judging her right i mean we're we're going over
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a previous conversation where i now have been told that everything she told me in that conversation
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essentially cannot be trusted because she was a pathological liar at the time because she was
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playing a character now i'm not that's what she just said to me so we're dude i was literally
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dressed in a spider-man outfit and you believe me i haven't even gotten that says a lot about you
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we haven't even gotten to any judgment yet right now we're just talking about the facts of the
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matter there hasn't even been any judgment and three it's perfectly acceptable for christians to
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judge where this idea came from that christians can't make judgments especially value judgments
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we make them all the time otherwise how would you even know who was walking down the wrong path
02:02:45.880
who needed salvation who did how would you know any of these things if you couldn't make value
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judgments you couldn't righteous judgment has to do with coming out of love from your heart in no
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way shape or form does whatever you have to say to me from the day i was dressed in a spider-man
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costume to right now have any love in your heart you're just condemning condemning you know my heart
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you know my heart i don't i really yeah well then why are you then why would you make the accusation
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condemnation all i did was repeat back to you what you said to me i never once said i was demonic
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you were lying about everything and all i'm doing is trying to get clarity lying about being a character
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on social media you're offended that i literally spoke the truth about like you really think that
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social media is real like please tell me that's not true listen because i said that i was lying
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about what i put on social media why are you pivoting pivoting off of what this is a big part of the
02:03:36.280
topic listen all we were discussing right now was that when we had a previous conversation on the
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whatever podcast by your own admission everything you said to me potentially was a lot about what
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everything you said stop no just let me finish and then i'll let you talk okay perhaps not everything
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perhaps not everything you said to me was a lie but by your own admission if you're playing a character
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and i shouldn't trust anything you say then i assume everything you told me was a lie until i get it
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clarified otherwise all i've been doing is just asking you clarification questions you have been
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spurging out and upset because you feel like it's condemnation i haven't condemned you for anything
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we've just barely even started having a conversation called you a satanist you literally called me a
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satanist a prostitute in no way shape or form was i a pro i mean okay so i understand that showing on
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showing your body online is like selling yourself understood you but in no way shape or form online what
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are you talking about did i not just admit that like yeah what do you have a problem with by
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any but by any metric that's prostitution what are you what are you talking about okay but like
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by standards prostituting is literally standing on the side of the road getting into people's cars
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and having sex no that's a hooker what is a prostitute is it not a prostitute
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what where where are you bro in your mind that's that's called that's called hooking because you're
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trying to hook somebody to be a john no stop bro did you just say that yeah yeah what is a prostitute
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no a prostitute is someone who goes and stands on the side of the road gets into somebody's car and
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has sex with them for money that is called the money the buddies at the funny randex they're not
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can you google it i don't have my phone as long as they go into a hotel room and there's a camera
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it's no longer prostitution it's any job that sells sex okay so what is the criteria for prostitution i'm
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not saying that i wasn't prostituting myself at all but like you're defining it in a manner where i'm
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literally going to people's houses grabbing money from them and having sex with them but yes what i
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was doing was very sinful and yes in a manner of prostituting myself it was literally but in no way
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shape or form was i'm like oh i'm a demonic person and i like take pride in that like where did you get
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that from okay that's not what i said i said what you were doing was satanic how is it satanic hold on
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to engage in prostitution wait wait hold on where's i need some of the chats are going to i
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promise we'll get like right to the passages hold on what bible are you reading the message bible i
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will let you guys get right back to this exact conversation but just because a couple are going
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to fall off i just have to read some of the other chats that came through we'll get right back to it
02:06:15.960
sage vanderlyn says uh if a woman doesn't trust your leadership she can't love you the ultimate
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expression of that trust is for her to give you her vote election day equals valentine's day for men
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a mount american valkyrie uh thank you sage vanderlyn appreciate the message we have lucas
02:06:36.840
good to see you in the chat man uh i appreciate your lofty ambitions this is uh by the way some
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of these came in like a while ago so they could be related to previous convo you do realize that don't
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grow on trees look i'm a partner at an nyc amlaw 100 firm oh you're a lawyer we should talk i got some
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legal stuff i don't make anything close to five million a year you may want to recalibrate a bit
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okay you response there or anything i mean okay like i honestly i'm open for suggestions whatever
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like i'm not like i'm not 500 come on down to like 50k that might be more no all right we'll come back
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to the five mil thing uh later though no lucas again oh you expect that one percent man to raise
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someone else's child plus and i do preemptively apologize but you could stand to lose a few not my
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don't don't shoot the messenger brian me thinks time for the delusion calculator yeah let's do the
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delusion calculator super quick pull that up can i mention something wait can i mention something to
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that comment what's that i'd like to finish our conversation i need to get through i will come right
02:07:43.160
back to it uh can i mention something well she wants to mention something about that about what
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about what just the comment and then i want to mention something about the comment okay um i'm
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really big that i don't need a man to raise my child i don't i'm not looking for a father for my
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child she has enough father figures okay so i'm not asking for someone to raise her and then the other
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thing is is that i am on a weight loss journey i lost 45 pounds for the pcos and postpartum i gained
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over 100 pounds i used to be this skinny so i understand i've been working on it and so 45
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pounds is really hard to lose and i lost it in like four or five months so and with my medication
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everything so yeah i know i'm i'm losing weight i'm going back it's okay okay your thing really
02:08:29.080
quick and i feel like we don't need to keep attacking her for a weight because she mentioned
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that she has pcos i have it too but everyone carries it differently and deals with it differently
02:08:36.200
mine's more like chemical reactions in my body and biochemistry whatever and she just shows
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it differently than i do but that doesn't mean you can keep attacking her for that because
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everyone is struggling with something and struggling with their weight somehow and she gave birth to a
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baby who is living on this earth and she kept that baby and she's raised on her own so i feel like we
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don't need to attack her for her weight but i think so i don't think they're trying to intentionally be
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mean i think when they're talking about the weight thing so like i'm sure we can all agree here
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that physical appearance physical attraction very important when it comes to being able to get a partner
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right yeah okay for me so like and typically at least the standard in i mean pretty much every
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single country i can think of standard is people prefer and are more attracted to people who are
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within a certain body fat percentage who are physically fit etc and people who are more in line
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with what is deemed physically attractive uh either societally or you know just on the pure base
02:09:33.880
evolutionary biological level yeah um you're if you're more physically attractive you're going
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to have more negotiating power uh or negotiating leverage when it comes to being able to secure
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a partner and so you know i think the criticism is coming from well based on this metric when it comes
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to physical appearance you're lacking in this regard ergo it's going to be you have less negotiating
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leverage to be able to actually secure a guy who makes five million dollars a year yeah i'm not
02:10:09.720
really offended about the weight jokes i i i cried about it when i got pregnant after postpartum i cried
02:10:14.840
about it i was upset i'm okay sure okay we have durin dolls here nala wipe off wipe that smug grin
02:10:21.320
off your face selling things isn't giving up all of your money you still have the money quick response to
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that quick response i have a few more let's honestly what makes you think are you in my bank account
02:10:32.360
do you know anything about my life now no absolutely not so like the year that i got off
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so in 2023 that was my last physical year for only fans so i had to pay over 300 000 to the irs for that
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when i had already started the new year off of only fans so now i'm making no money and then had to
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pay 300 000 to that so it's not like i wasn't smart and didn't put stuff away but again that's still
02:10:55.640
coming out of my pocket so i don't know where this this thought of people thinking like oh my god
02:11:00.680
you literally walked away with millions of dollars but i really didn't like when you live
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in california you'll understand how much tax like california actually takes just the state tax alone
02:11:11.400
is ridiculous so hope that answered your question all right one sec here guys we have
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two super chats and i'll let you guys get back to the convo at hand uh also kind of while we're
02:11:21.720
doing this the pizza has arrived a bit early so we're going to do a pizza intermission it's going
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to be uh we're going to do it just just to keep the show moving it is a little higher than usual we're
02:11:33.160
going to do a 69 tts during this piece pizza intermission will allow andrew and nala to have
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the back and forth i have two super chats here pelagic daddy is loaded dad not her she needs the other
02:11:45.640
guy's money daddy ain't giving her anything right now this is to you quick response um honestly you
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don't know my life and you don't know how much tax we pay and stuff and i don't need the guy's money
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so i don't really freaking care like for it but if you don't care why the need for the five million
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um that's caused by the pain again and the hurt that i've been through and the use and abuse it's
02:12:09.720
just to get on the same kind of level so you think a rich guy is gonna abuse you less than a guy
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that has i mean financial no no no no no you what you totally have like i'm sorry am i like
02:12:21.720
misunderstanding this like no i think it has to do with if we i don't know if we're gonna get into
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the antidote of what happened like when i was with my ex like we'll get into the details yeah that has
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and that will clear everything up for me it doesn't have to do with the money it's basically yeah basically
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it hasn't okay but the money will not so we have pelagic here thank you pelagic for the soup
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chat really appreciate it this future guy is screwed andrew spot on pure punishment this is
02:12:50.920
still directed towards you i think okay it's from a while ago i don't really care uh pelagic
02:12:55.720
thank you for the soup chat man very much appreciated and then we do have a message
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here really quick from trash panda the legendary trash panda donated 69 dollars
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care six correct you are big you are a fn delusion low beast one shut up about your pain yawn
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care seven stfu she fat no man cares why nala you are demonic damn bro we all can see it in your eyes
02:13:22.520
okay all right so uh who wants pizza i'll have pizza no pizza pizza do i have to do something for
02:13:37.800
it no it's just quick okay can we move this on please pizza pizza yes pepperoni pepperoni pizza no
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okay pizza yes popcorn please wait so yes yes okay all right cool we'll get that going just raise your
02:13:53.960
hand if you want pizza uh last one and then uh guys 69 tts for the next like 20 minutes and then you
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guys can have the uh continue the back and forth drinking the champagne of beers that's the epitome of
02:14:05.720
a true virtuous and respectable 69 tts champagne of beers pizza intermission get it all right so
02:14:15.240
anyway maybe maybe we can get back to this conversation without it being uh quite so
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hostile well listen you start calling me names and then you expect me to be what like a quiet
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little lady about it i didn't call you any names did he not call him come on come on andrew you're
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better than this you're better than this what you were doing was prostitution and demonic yes
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that's correct in your opinion i understand don't you stand by that
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stand by what you calling me names no or your righteous judgment that what you were doing
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was prostitution do you not think that righteous anger is also in the bible so you you think you're
02:14:50.760
being righteous by judging me um to be short what i was doing was very sinful and of the devil i didn't
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say i was demonic or i held demons my question was was it prostitution and was it demonic how did i
02:15:06.680
not answer that question well did i not answer it correctly yes it was or no it was not prostitution
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let's start with that i think yes it was online prostitution okay great and then to question two now
02:15:18.200
that's clarified do you don't think that it was demonic to do that sort of online prostitution i think
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any sin is demonic all sin is demonic there's no there's no multitudes you can't make choices to
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sin external the demonic well everyone has sinned and fallen short of the glory of god but people can
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be forgiven and can change and all that has changed since my last time she's on here question that i just
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asked what's prostitutes can people sin absent the demonic
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yes yes thank you so anyways in what case explain please explain elaborate does it require demons to
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tell you to do uh something sinful for you to do it i think that the demons can put thoughts in your
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head and then you act on it i agree they can't necessarily make that's not my question
02:16:06.920
so why wouldn't sin be demonic can you sin absent demonic absent the demonic yeah you you know i don't
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i don't know if i agree or disagree with that i can't say yes or no i just think that demons rule
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the earth right now just like satan walks around like a roaring lion trying seeking whom he may devour
02:16:26.920
and that the satan is the prince of the powers of the air so everything doing during like anything
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dealing with sin is demonic it is not of god it separates you from god so i think it all it has to
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be demonic you're confused there's two issues here which are being confused the the first issue is that
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to sin right could that be i don't know helpful to the demonic or something like this sure my my
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askance is can you sin absent a demonic entity telling you to sin because i don't understand how
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you can have free will if you can't well like look and think about the first thing eve ate the fruit
02:17:06.920
because she was influenced by what a demon a spirit so if like if that didn't happen
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you know what i'm saying so no i don't think you can sin outside of demonic influence
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demons no that's which would no no demons that was free will so where did he get the thought in
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his head jealousy is what not of god out of jealousy you have free will you have no no you absolutely
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have free will it doesn't then if you have free will how could you not have the free will to sin
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absent the demonic but the i mean even going down to the first sin in the bible like that was demonic
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influence what about the second sin there was no serpent who influenced cain just because i don't know
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just because the bible doesn't say specifically that a demon told him to do something doesn't mean it
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didn't come from a demon yeah but okay so in this case then you're saying that people don't have
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free will because because they cannot choose i didn't say that to sin only demons can influence
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them to do so well look at the world that we live in like it's literally satan's world yeah nobody disputes
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that but that doesn't mean it requires a demonic for you to sin i don't know so what are your parameters for
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your answer then well i don't think evil has ontology meaning um i think that evil is just
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absence of god it is absence of god's will so then evil itself has no ontology there is nothing which
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is evil it's just absence of god anything like that would be evil right right but you have the decision
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to make to make free to make choices of free will then you could make a free decision to absent yourself
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from god absent the demonic yeah i can see that point of view but i don't necessarily agree with
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it just yet because i haven't done enough i'd say research on the topic so i don't know i really don't
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know if i agree with you completely it's just logic if you have in your mind yes then you have to have
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the free will to sin you we all absolutely have the free will to do whatever we want but to sin is to
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depart from christ so what is that that is satan literally and we're and okay well then following
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that logic when you departed from christ and we're doing sex work was that satan i think satan's
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influence absolutely well then it was demonic by your own admission correct demonic yes but i didn't
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ever say i was okay possessed well then i wasn't making accusations towards you i was stating simple
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fact stating that i was demon possessed yes that's an accusation that was not true i didn't accuse you
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of being demonically possessed i don't think you said that you're a demon possessed i just that never
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that literally never happened all i did was say that what you were doing was prostitution and demonic
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and now we've gotten the heart of it and you agree right i agree now so i'll tell you a quick story
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so that you understand that i'm not really here to uh be your nemesis uh though i will hold you to
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fire i think that that's fair i think that you should hold me accountable to the things that i
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say absolutely i would i was on a panel uh after your conversion happened with pearl david oh i heard
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it and that's why i feel as though i was the only dissenter i was the only one who said no you need to
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give her i understand why people don't believe her but you need to give it time and by the way it's still
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better than the alternative the only person who said that was me the alternative being what what's the
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alternative except me what's the alternative i was the only one who didn't what's that what's the
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alternative sex work so even if you had even if the entire thing so here was my my argument even if
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the entire thing wasn't a grift a new grift right let's just say like hypothetically right that would
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still be superior to the sex work grift that was my argument back so no matter what basically you it's
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still it's still better than the alternative yes absolutely and but never once did i say even in
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our last podcast together that i followed christ i said that i was a church goer and that i was a
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pastor's kid and that i'd been to church multiple times but that it had hurt me enough to turn away
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from because i thought that's what was christian like that was christianity so when we were in a
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heated exchange and i may have misspoke there right i'm not trying to straw man you i was paraphrasing i
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just think as a christian like you know what's crazy during my whole during this time of coming
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to christ and getting rid of my only fans getting rid of all the explicit content off of my all of
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my socials even deleting my twitter um changing my entire wardrobe out throwing away all the
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immodest clothes like all of that through all that change the biggest people who have come against me
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are christians because they don't want to believe that god's power is strong enough to save somebody like
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me but when you actually read the bible you'll literally see you'll literally see that god used
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the absolute like misled worse people like to literally let me represent the other side of the
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argument here real quick i understand because i get mercilessly attacked by people you would call
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christians all the time uh probably just as bad as you do just in a different way uh but let me represent
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the other side here the church has been completely and totally infiltrated with non-christian sex
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workers who basically use the idea of the shield of christ as a shield against criticism they use it as
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a shield against criticism i've now been reborn i now am no longer sinful and now you can no longer
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criticize me interestingly enough this seems i'm just going to explain the position that's it okay i'm
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not saying i take the position i'm just explaining it to you so because that now that is true tons
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and tons of sex workers reform generally around the same age that well the revenue starts to decrease
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because they're not really kind of young and hot anymore they're kind they're not quite post-wall but
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they're getting there and you know most men don't want to marry former sex workers that's the truth
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however they do move into these christian circles hoping that they'll kind of find those men who say okay well
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she's born again and this and that and they use it as a shield from criticism rather than what it's
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supposed to be which is a place for you to repent now to explain this further and then i'll let you
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respond we have a saint right uh saint mary who was a prostitute and she spent her entire life in
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repentance her whole life in repentance because uh of basically uh the the sex work that she did the
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idea there was just to say that her job was to be humble to the church humble to the community
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servant to the community not to use the community as a shield for her that's why she went into being
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a rape loose because she was afraid that that's what would happen at least that's the writings that i've
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i've read about it so i'm not saying you have to do that by the way i'm giving you the position that so
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many women use christianity as a shield from criticism who were sex workers and that's the
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only reason they move towards it not because they're going there in repentance and in faith
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and they're going to spend their entire life making it right that's not is church not made up of sinners
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what's that is church not made up of sinners of course it is so i don't understand your point
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and also didn't you say mary wasn't a prostitute are you speaking to mary magdalene or is this a different
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mary saint mary okay i don't know i'm not catholic at all i'm just not nominational explaining i mean
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i'm just explaining the counter position so that you understand also what's crazy is i actually
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haven't seen outside of my circle and what i've seen on the internet i've seen two other women get
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off of only fans and what's crazy is like they reached out to me first and asked me how i got off
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of only fans and what really changed in my life with christ so i sent them my podcast with michael
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knolls and i was like if you have any further questions please ask me because i broke it down
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really well in that podcast you know like sorry egypt it's not damascus egypt my bad saint mary of
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egypt but anyway okay um the go ahead go ahead i'm sorry um so outside of my circle like you're
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saying there's so many women in the industry doing this but outside of my circle i've seen two other
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women do this like get baptized completely reform their life we see it we see it every day right so
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inside of conservative circles because we're battling constantly with degenerates everywhere
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we see this happen quite often so do you feel like it's your role to what exactly with them just
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like righteously judgment judge them no matter what or actually to love them i think that i'm not saying
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you just have to be fully accepting of exactly who they are in that moment but you need to understand
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that christ can move in someone's life so quickly and that fire reforms you from christ so deeply that
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you have to make the change like nothing there is no other option that you feel like nobody's
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disputing that but i'm disputing that but because from you like this is what i'm hearing like you want
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to righteously judge me but in what way exactly i haven't what what way do you feel like you the
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count i gave you the counter position so that you understood it that's it that's all just that um
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women coming out of the industry are going into the conservative christian groups and being what
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like praised for it no well it's worse so let me explain a little more in depth so that you understand
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uh you would agree with me that a woman can for instance who's a sex worker can play a character
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and the entire time she's playing that character lie about it right you agree that that's true
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absolutely why couldn't why couldn't they do that in a church no they absolutely could but as a christian
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from that church it is your job to yes if they're doing something wrong and if you see that they're
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doing something wrong then you can righteously come to them and be like listen you are not doing
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this right the bible says to come to a brother like brotherly love you need to come to them and explain
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what they're doing wrong however like the way you're coming at me just seems like i'm being
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called names to make yourself feel better about you thinking that i just lied about everything
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and then you're being like well now how can i believe you but if you're a real christian you'd
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understand that if you were a real christian you're so defensive here i haven't called you any names
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and i am i wrong and i have not in any way made any accusations i'm giving you the counter position
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i'm confused did you not hear yourself in the beginning or are we having a different discussion
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no i heard myself fine what did i accuse you of what are you saying i keep being demonic being a
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prostitute lying being a pathological liar was your words i'm sorry with all of that there's no
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accusation there it's a statement of fact so i never agreed to being a pathological liar in life
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i just said that what i was doing at the time was lying about loving cheating yes i i didn't say that
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you you said you were a pathological liar in life yes you did speak up ladies i'm sorry at the beginning
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you did you no i didn't you said you were playing by the way you called her that you see my issue with
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christians now they're like this you're never going to be able to gaslight me ever in a million years
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i'm very he's gaslighting he's gaslighting you you are legit you're a legitimate definition of
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gaslighting no shot i'm so glad this is going on the internet you say you say i spent the entire time
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i pointed that out nothing more what that i was a pathological liar everyone around this table heard
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it and how many 10 000 people on live heard it that is pathological that doesn't mean you're saying
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that i lied but you said i was a pathological liar i did not you just said in life you added a
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qualifier so when you say you're a pathological the question was regarding my last podcast you
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said i'm a pathological liar in life that was not my claim i never said that in life i was a
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pathological liar she just lied about the cheating part you said i accused you of that you said i
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accused you of being speaking out louder because she said that she just lied about the cheating part
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so she get more views get more money for her only fans and create content because media is fake
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nowadays you do click baits all the time all the time family channels on youtube they do click baits
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all the time this is a lie so what she actually said was that everything i said when i was doing
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that you should dismiss everything brian asked for clarification we were talking about the podcast
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hang on hang on hang on so brian asked for the clarification you're lying about everything
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she responds yes shouldn't believe anything i never said you shouldn't believe anything yes i
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just said you shouldn't believe what's going on on social media and mainstream media
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we were talking about the podcast remember me in the spider-man outfit yeah yeah you were sitting
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right there i was sitting right here so that was a lie i was talking about the cheating we addressed
02:29:52.760
that topic specifically through a comment that's what i was lying about and then i did i say that i was a
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path like a lodger that in life absolutely not thank you
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if you say you're playing a character you're lying right
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i was dressed up in a spider-man outfit yeah so if you're playing a character
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i'm not supposed to take seriously anything you say right guys uh look i gotta i'll let you guys get
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back to it but i want to try to bring some other people into uh the condo thank you ladies though
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we got her back uh time permitting at the end maybe or at some point a little bit later on we can
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revisit it um i'm gonna let the uh the chats come through guys so we got some chats while we did the
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little pizza session hang on hang on i just want to point something okay wait let this come in 69
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i'll let it come in then you can finish last time i came here i learned most people do not understand
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the meaning of the word depreciation this time i do not appear to have learned anything thank you brian
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and andrew for this experience general jack thank you to the christians at the back who are kind of
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enforcing the sisterhood that nala right told you that she does not consider jesus christ to be divine
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i do i never i consider i consider the trinity that jesus christ is god that is part of the trinity
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they are one absolutely it's this she refutes that jesus christ is god i absolutely i said god is in
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heaven on his throne and then i said jesus is on his right hand if you read the bible andrew you'd
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absolutely see this the holy spirit god and jesus they're three in one they are three in one but
02:31:36.920
there's still three individuals who are truly yet but seriously one god they're three distinct
02:31:42.440
persons if there's one if there's there are three distinct persons but they are one this would be
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what what would be the entailment of that be dude they're one but they are all separate parts
02:31:53.240
because dude when god was in heaven he sent his son to earth so how could god come to earth and die
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on the cross from his sins when jesus in the garden before he was killed he was praying to his father in
02:32:03.080
heaven oh then they're different entities they are three different separate parts but they are
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still one i'm not denying the trinity i fully believe in the trinity heresy well here's the
02:32:15.000
issue are you non-indominational yes i am too you're a catholic right andrew no i'm an orthodox you're
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orthodox sorry so everyone in christianity believes in different parts of the trinity and it's so hard
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to debate because everyone's coming from their own point of view like i completely agree with nala
02:32:31.720
that's how i was raised i was raised catholic when i was little then we left that part of the
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faith and went to non-denominational but the thing is it's hard to debate this because everyone has a
02:32:40.760
different perspective on it the way that we were raised in school bible and i completely agree with
02:32:44.840
nala you don't think everyone has a god says one and only begotten son to die on the cross for our
02:32:49.320
sins that who believes in him will have eternal life god was so remember jesus cried out to god
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on the cross thank you how would he cry out to himself because they are three and one it's the trinity
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i believe in the trinity and then god turned his back on jesus in the garden because this had to be
02:33:07.240
done so how are they like again like she said a perfect point jesus did not pray to himself and be
02:33:12.440
like let this cut pass he prayed to his father in heaven yeah that's why i learned okay i learned
02:33:18.600
we're gonna so so hang on now if you stop spurging i can answer to this i think i can be spontaneous about
02:33:25.000
being like directed in a wrong way of course not of course not we can't answer you guys need to make
02:33:29.880
your final points on this because i gotta move it on i'll let you we made our points coming back in
02:33:35.480
here do you recognize this saying um on the cross jesus died and went down to hell on the third day he
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rose again and joined his father at the right hand of god have you heard that
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have i heard what on the third i didn't hear what you said i'm sorry go ahead again okay jesus died on
02:33:56.040
the cross and went down to hell on the third day he rose again and joined his father at the right hand
02:34:02.520
of god and this has what to do with what this is proving that okay jesus the holy spirit and god
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there are three distinct persons who are truly yet mysteriously one god this is a westminster
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shorter catechism i don't know if you know of this are they three there are three distinct persons
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they are truly yet mysteriously one god you have to calm down so i can respond
02:34:28.280
you just keep interrupting that still you don't want to listen let me talk that's fine it is fine
02:34:34.600
that's fine i mean i don't i don't know why you guys would filibuster though i thought you wanted the
02:34:39.320
answer so i agree with you i don't agree with you so like your answer is like invalid i just said the
02:34:45.080
words i agree with you do you know what those words mean nala wow so i agree with you that there
02:34:51.080
are three persons she said three parts three parts do you think it's three parts it's three distinct beings
02:35:00.440
yes yes bro i just said i count three heretics in one whatever studio so i count one pharise
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online that's drinking beer in order to speak to us thank you there's literally nobody would ever
02:35:36.760
agree with you in the heresy of the three-part argument i don't know why you don't understand
02:35:41.960
it's god what is your trinity what is your trinity educate us it's god it's him himself and what is
02:35:50.360
your trinity the holy spirit and they're all one holy shit listen and cussing wow you see how i have
02:35:58.200
one earpiece i don't have three earpieces i have one earpiece and so what happens is if you talk and you
02:36:05.720
talk and you talk you guys cancel each other out okay ask your question again in the studio what is your trinity
02:36:14.920
okay great so you have three persons you would agree with this correct not three parts
02:36:24.040
there's really no difference there's just different words there's no difference there's no difference
02:36:28.280
why why is a part do they not have a part why is a part different than a being because it's it is
02:36:35.160
this is one entity three persons it says synergy distinction that's where it comes from i can't
02:36:42.200
tell if we're actually agreeing on the same topic or not because you it's so that my word part is
02:36:46.920
different from person the problem is that i feel like i could explain this to you guys right we could
02:36:52.360
walk through it a step at a time but you couldn't spurt the out every time we started why are you
02:36:57.720
like claiming to be a christian and just cussing like constantly if i can add something no it's not
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the topic we gotta just all right twitch tos is gonna us on the uh if i could add something i think
02:37:09.480
you guys are all kind of saying the same thing just in a different way yeah and i also feel like
02:37:15.960
look i mean i do have to bring it back okay i allowed the christian theology conversation to
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i'm not even christian so i think your perspective is really important because
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you're like the outside source in the situation i'm like a mediator i know you are you are we need
02:37:32.680
that the ref yes the ref all right i gotta move it on a bunch of chats are gonna come legendary trash
02:37:39.160
panda donated 69 dollars chair five baby girl pay no attention to these other
02:37:45.880
three hundred and fours put your feet up on the table and let me see them grippers consider how
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soft my fur i will keep you warm bbg chair seven shut t f up sorry i'm a yapper don't be sorry actually
02:38:01.160
no i'm not sorry he's not sorry do you want to respond to trash panda i'm not gonna show my feet
02:38:07.880
you nasty awkward about for 20 bucks oh what's the problem 20 bucks 20 bucks no excuse me
02:38:21.720
britney deastinated 100 girls stop running to religion if you aren't believing andrew
02:38:28.600
it's okay to not have his views women can do a lot and as a woman andrew you're welcome for my service
02:38:34.840
hashtag dd214 is that a bra size or um no oh not sure why the thing is is like i don't actually
02:38:43.960
even understand andrew's views like i couldn't even tell you what he believes in you guys can
02:38:49.480
talk about it later i've given you plenty of time to talk i've given you plenty of time to talk all
02:38:55.480
right we have a pelagic here defensiveness deflection and projection it really exposes you nala from pelagic
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thank you for the soup chat quick response nala hi keep watching it get better all right make that
02:39:09.080
bank i have a question uh quick though there's a lot to go yeah i'll just make it really quick
02:39:15.560
is the only thing you disagree with nala on is that she says parts instead of persons
02:39:20.920
i think that nala is engaging in historianism a form of heresy and unless i can do a socratic
02:39:30.120
internal critique to understand where she's coming from i can't really explain this but because you're
02:39:35.000
incapable of shutting the up it's impossible for me to do that how are you a christian bro you know
02:39:40.680
perverse speech is actually a sin 50 dicks i'll never lecture me about anything ever ever ever wow that
02:39:48.360
really shows your character i'm actually i'm so glad this is on camera bro because all you christians
02:39:53.080
out there this is someone who claims to be a christian right here that's crazy
02:39:59.800
by a horror no no thanks not oh oh i love this shouldn't you be celebrating that she has turned
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away from her sin and joined christianity she's not a christian she denies the divinity of christ
02:40:12.760
she did i never said that who are you to say she's not a christian that's between her and god
02:40:17.560
if you divine the divinity if you deny the divinity of christ you are not a christian simple as what's
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funny is that's coming out of your mouth not mine yeah i'm glad it is just like a lot of other lies
02:40:27.640
do you think you're god is that why you're just is that what you're trying to decide whether she's
02:40:32.440
christian or not do you think you're god do you know what's in my heart i don't so why are you
02:40:36.600
trying to find out what's in her i'm not here to call out heresies how do you know you don't know
02:40:40.600
no no i'm here to call out a pharisee right in front of me bro you don't know what a pharisee
02:40:44.760
even means who were the pharisees now the pharisees were in the time where they were supposed to be
02:40:48.840
over the people like the christian people or like the jews and they were supposed to be teaching the
02:40:52.920
word of god and they weren't we're supposed to be the jews who are over everyone that's what a pharisee
02:40:57.240
was i said that they were literally the christians over everyone given the law to teach the law
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just gerald donated 69 thank you gerald appreciate this was great advertising for why the orthodox church is the
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way to go yo gerald thank you very much there's a lot coming through so i'm gonna ask that you know
02:41:15.640
we just kind of uh you know let it come through thank you gerald appreciate it man uh thank you
02:41:21.560
thank you very much we got another one coming through here in just a moment one sec guys
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just see where we're at josh donated 69 dollars i will say that you are correct andrew that the
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church is a place for repentance though nala's repentance is not owed to anyone in the church
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it's only owed to god being self-righteous is a thing too yeah let's go yes but who disputes any of
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this like no what is that do you guys you guys don't even know what the argument's even about
02:41:53.240
you don't even know what we're arguing about damn wait that's what makes that's i'm sorry i gotta let
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these come through it's 69 69 nala we can judge but cannot condemn call me skeptical given your
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past and the over saturation of grift dot nevertheless her salvation is a private matter
02:42:12.440
between you and god to be determined it absolutely is however you can share your faith no matter what
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and i think it's the right thing to do is to share what god's done in your life so you can help other
02:42:22.680
people all right thank you man doc vener billy donated 100 take a time out to honor brixton who
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is famously credited for bringing nala to salvation i propose making him an honorary christian and
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donating his flannel collection as church relics i don't even know how brixton is oh that's me um
02:42:44.520
we do have your videos uh we'll uh we'll have to pull those up a little later uh hold on guys we have
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a bunch coming through some of them fell off so i'm just i apologize i'll have to just read them
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directly rachel wilson donated 69 i'll get them all guys andrew is correct the idea that christ is
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not go equal with the father and fully divine is a heresy called arianism the trinity does not have
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parts that's also a heresy christ is god yeah never said he wasn't i think it was arianism i think
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it was nestorianism and i think we could have gotten to the bottom of it so we could have figured out
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which heresy it was you can be mad and shake your head but christianity i just don't think anybody
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has ever denied that christ is god no i never said we're just saying that there are three different
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persons who are truly yet mysteriously one god no what happened earlier in the conversation and
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you'll be able to see this yourself when the podcast is over yeah i can't wait i'll bet you a
02:43:41.960
hundred dollars that this happened i'll bet you right now a hundred dollars i'll bet you 101 that i asked
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her if jesus christ was god she said the son of god i said but god she said no the son of god and i
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said but god no the son of god so what does that mean to you what does that mean to you that they
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have three separate roles guys let me get through the chats before i have three separate
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lucas donated sixty nine dollars one slash ch dot six not trying to be mean just pointed criticism
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slash trying to frame the general preferences for someone who's a younger version of me and i do so
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only bc you're well-intentioned content like continued uh hold on there's this one hold on
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it's coming in and just to say i was able to get them pulled up lucas donated sixty nine dollars
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content when choosing my wife physical appearance was a high priority after which
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a demure slash submissive demeanor with a willingness to take care of the household
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slash kids without any debate slash negotiation okay all right thank you lucas appreciate it we have
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piotra donated seventy dollars americans please vote for carmila she will continue making my country
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greater and greater a lot of love for andrew from mussia okay what does moscow have to do with our
02:45:15.720
country um wait really quick just who just going around the table going up from moscow we voted for
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going around the table who you voting for trump already did i am not allowed oh you're trump wait
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really yes oh that i would not have guessed so proud of you trump trump oh my god i don't know
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it's trump you wait i know i didn't want to say it and then i didn't want to say it because we don't
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say it like it's a private thing okay yeah maga trump 2024 baby trump wow okay wow everyone's
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who did you vote for we got the trump gang the trump podcast the trumpets trumpets mc underscore rocker
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donated 69 dollars and 99 cents as a fan of the master debater let me say nala you are an inspiration
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i use your clips for good leave it up like andrew says meet them where they are thank you
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show the other one if it's like this uh okay hold on we have
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mc rocker thank you man appreciate it octavius donated 69 dollars ladies
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on one hand he is tall six foot one blue eyes rich sometimes funny successful but he has a dead bod
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probably autistic probably autistic and a small peepee oh my god it's average first off how do you know
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that it's it's not small it's average get it right uh okay going around the table that's what they all
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say going around the table if you're if you're married no okay not interested okay i have a boyfriend
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so yeah it's hard married no yeah not my type is it because i'm white no no i actually i actually do
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like white guys just not not oxford study yeah wait are you half white half i'm half taiwanese wait
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half taiwanese half white oh that's cool that's why you're tall yeah wait wait wait hold on you you
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wouldn't date me no what if i made five million
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still no no oh because i would expect you to be submissive and not be a plastic surgeon no
02:47:43.400
wait kind of oh you only date black guys no oh okay
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i know i date i date black guys i like my preference is like hispanic men latino men that's
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my preference i mean i'm mexican oh my gosh you trying to get it
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i think i think i would have to get to know ryan more yeah oh i think it would have to go down to
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personality well unfortunately look i i want to do you a favor i'm never going to earn five million
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dollars a year so i'm just gonna like back out a little bit of this i'm out of the race i'm out
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of the race you know whatever i said no you're too old for me sorry wait how old are you how old
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are you boomer boomer he's 35 35. you're younger than my boyfriend but i have the mentality the maturity
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of a 29 year old i'd agree with that all right what about you um no you you remind me of my cousin
02:48:42.760
actually yeah he does cousin vibes i remind you of your cousin yeah the white one and the white
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one yes the white one the white cousin that's crazy the beard and stuff what my cousin actually
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listen second cousin marriages allowed this ain't alabama once removed yeah okay all right there you
02:49:07.560
have it folks uh let's see here we got more the legendary trash panda donated 69 dollars oh trash
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panda hates me you lying ass be your instagram third pick i can see your vag pull it up brian
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you're wearing shorts where if you stood up we can see the camel hanging quit lying you ain't christian
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damn no no once again another judger that's a fan the legendary trash i think he's wearing sweats not
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shorts big underscore cheesy cheese underscore 69 donated 69 dollars let's be real here five million
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dollars a year buys a lot of mcdoubles okay also narlo if you have changed your life why do you still
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dress like an only fans girl do you think god approves of those shorts oh why because it's hot in here
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bro i wish you could feel how freaking hot it is in here dude it's like 85 literally burning over
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here oh maybe open the god get a little airflow going all right uh let's see here we have this
02:50:10.360
guys we're getting a bunch of josh donated 69 dollars i will say that you are correct andrew that the
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church is a place for repentance wait we did yeah no repentance is not owed to anyone in the church
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it's only owed to god being self-righteous is a sin too hold on guys did we do this one i'm gonna
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let this one come through we got a lot guys uh guys we're gonna oh okay i think we're all cut up here
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what the hell sorry guys there there's a couple coming through lucas donated 69 dollars and yes when
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you like to get clicks it is pathological lying be precise in your auditory comprehension second
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divesting of your ill-gotten pecuniary gain is a vital component of righteous penance
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okay thank you lucas so much man i really appreciate the message
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we have trash panda coming up again oh my god the legendary trash panda donated 69 did we do it
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care seven oh sorry guys there's a shut tf up even this cool no no oh wait no we didn't
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that was a new one yeah damn bro now i got i got to re-trigger it okay we shut him up rude
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uh while we're waiting on that ray bovis nala andrew is simply trying to shake you into having
02:51:31.000
some accountability instead of coddling you thank you ray appreciate it oh the legendary trash panda
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donated 69 dollars care seven omg shut tf up even this kuma d jen knows foundational doctrine
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identifies christ as god i don't think any of y'all are christians there are things to argue about
02:51:53.240
but godhood is not word word okay thank you do you have a really up too late sorry ryan calloway
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donated 69 thank you ryan appreciate it genuinely happy for you that you've found the lord nala and
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that you're using your platform to glorify him andrew isn't the enemy though and he's made some valid
02:52:15.240
points stay humble hearts honestly i'm open to anything for i'm honestly i'm honestly open to
02:52:26.760
anything he has to say but without judgment in his heart that's the issue that i'm having is that
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whatever he is saying comes out of pure like it just feels dark it doesn't feel like something
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coming from god and then swearing at us is like
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oh no i said the worst nine dollars oh no protestantism was founded by martin lucifer
02:52:50.040
heresy at its finest wake up and smell the coffee repent jesus is god look up the early church
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teachings looks nothing like protestant can you explain to me there's a there's some coming in
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just i don't think i ever will how chicks participate in like cum guzzling
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lucas donated 69 dollars so for all you split of non-denominational christians
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thank you lucas appreciate the there's three more coming in guys about three more
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not delulu unlike you donated 69 dollars andrew i believe in logic facts don't care about your
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feelings also andrew there is a giant man in the sky whom i have a personal relationship with
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even though there's no evidence quick response andrew if you're if you're saying that i can't
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okay we have i don't know where he came up with that
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greek orthodox donated 111 dollars just to clarify what true apostolic orthodox theology is
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god is triune three persons in one essence and christ is true god and perfect man
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i never said they weren't at all i don't know what andrew is even talking about at this point the fact
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that i said part versus persons that's what he's mad about and literally smoking his freaking 50th
02:54:27.720
cigarette when he's like telling me that i had 50 dicks in my mouth which is also a lie
02:54:31.480
so now you're lying how many dicks was it since it wasn't 50 would you guys prefer to during the
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only event time i slept with three people uh ogle would you guys prefer to date wes watson or andrew
02:54:46.120
nobody knows who that is i'm sorry ogle they don't know who that is um ogle tell us
02:54:52.680
here i'll i'll paint a i'll paint a word picture so that's andrew wilson and then wes watson is he's
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very ripped he's bald though and he used to be he he was in prison and he has a lot of tattoos and
02:55:12.120
he's rich sounds like a guy i met in the psych work so which one
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i don't know i feel like that's okay um all right guys we're gonna bump the tts back up to
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if there's any more that like trickle through within the next minute or two for the next three
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minutes i'll let them come through but the tts has been will be bumped back up so i appreciate
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everybody who sent some in i'm gonna read this here nala christianity is not to be used as a
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shield against righteous judgment or criticism for terrible behavior your response nala oh my gosh
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in so many podcasts i've told everyone what i did was completely wrong and that i regret it so in
02:55:47.880
no way shape or form am i shielding myself or shielding what i did as as a form of like being
02:55:52.760
like oh i know what i did was wrong but it was okay because i wasn't saved no way shape or form did i
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ever say that if you actually watch what i post or actually listen to what i'm saying i did say it
02:56:04.520
was wrong and i apologize openly to the men who actually absorbed the content that i put out
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out because it's causing them to stumble so you can believe what you'd like but i'm not using my
02:56:14.840
christianity as a shield i'm defending god because i believe in him also i guess this came off but
02:56:21.080
there was a message from stifler that asked i mean it's not here so we'll just do the this one but
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uh ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you my looks yeah oh well i was
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actually prepared for this question so um i would rate myself myself not you myself as a 10 because
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i have self-confidence but you could probably rate me as a three and i don't care oh okay so so 10
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okay what about you i'd say i'm like an eight okay 10 10 i give myself like a five or six okay
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five okay six or seven i've never thought about this in my life because i don't like the scale i
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would say a five and a half i would also say five so 10 and 10 big time um yeah everyone's a 10 yeah
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wait so let me have a bit of back and forth here everyone's a 10 yeah yeah into the mic if you can
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yes all women are 10s yeah all men are 10s yeah why wouldn't you date some men then
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10 okay define the scale the scale of like okay so here i'll give you i i i'll give you a bit of a
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guideline here so one but ugly two unattractive three frumpy plain four below average five average six
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above average seven pretty eight beautiful nine gorgeous ten perfect or absolutely stunning head
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are you still not not every guy is a 10 no oh but all not women are tens yeah all women are
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10 because we carry everything you what we carry the the the pain of this world but that doesn't
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really mean what wait so hold on what what does that mean just we bring the the babies to this
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world we get the our period like we yeah suffer so much that we what does that have to do with your
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looks everybody everybody should be confident to say so the more you suffer the more physically
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attractive you are what's the logic yeah okay that's not it doesn't make sense yeah it doesn't
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just just the woman the woman deserve deserve what to be 10 whatever the woman wasn't nice to you
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wait can you personality well she's beautiful but she's mean to you what what would you rate her
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not a 10 anymore so that means all women are not 10s not be a 10 yeah if they prove me wrong
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then no wait so you not all men are tens but all women are tens do you agree with this are all women
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tens i honestly well my i said myself as a 10 because i like am self-confident in myself um i believe
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that personality has a big role when it comes to dropping the rate i feel like everyone is a 10
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men um everyone men and women alike i feel like if your personality sucks then your attractiveness
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sucks because you could be the most attractive man or woman in the world yeah but it's a question
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about looks no but i'm saying i'm saying everyone i believe lookfully it's 10 because they're made in
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their own image and likeness but um i feel like that can change on a person's point of view because of
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their you have a dating app right you're on tinder and hinge well actually or it was just it's tinder and
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cheese spot oh okay tinder and that other one yeah yeah so you're on the dating apps right um which
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we'll pull up later but um if you don't care about like so you don't care about the appearance then
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no because everyone's just a 10 right uh do you swipe right on every single man on the dating app
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um i look at their profile and what they write and i look at what they're looking for and that's
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how i go so you've you've never just seen the first photo and just swiped no you always like
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investigate further i mean i mean it just depends like it would swiping it also depends on like what
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i'm looking for i feel like everyone is a 10 in their own way in their image and likeness but like
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it's just disregard continue yeah um yeah i have swiped right on a lot of different people i mean my
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attractiveness is different but i feel like fulfilling like everyone is a 10 i feel like
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everyone is beautiful and stunning in their own way so i have a question for you you said you wanted
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to be a plastic surgeon correct so if everyone is a perfect 10 appearance wise why would you need
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to give people plastic surgery that's fantastic that's actually a fantastic question uh i run it as
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um when i want to go into plastic surgery i want it to make it a big deal and a lot of plastic surgeons
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uh when you do major surgeries you have to go and see a psychologist and have some meetings with them to
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make sure you're not changing because of yeah i don't yeah i've never heard of that no i have to see
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it you're talking about like trans stuff no like major change like face changes and stuff like that
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i feel like a requisite is to see a psychologist first like face transplants i mean i don't i'm not
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talking about plastic surgeons here um where because a lot of people get their body done out of the
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country well we're talking about in this country in this country yes columbia can you restate your
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question sorry because we so if everyone's a perfect 10 everyone in the world is a perfect 10
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10 why do you need to give people plastic surgery like why is that the field that you want to go
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into if everyone's a perfect 10 already so that's my view on everyone but i go to the field of plastic
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surgery because i feel like a lot of people don't feel like that like that themselves and i want them
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to feel their way that's your business if you want to change um if you want to look a specific way if
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you want bigger boobs and stuff because all of us have our own self-concerns of like oh i don't look that
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great i don't look this like because like they said like physical looks are important but that's
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my perspective but if that's not your perspective i respect that and you want to change wouldn't you be
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to add on to your point really quick wouldn't you be better suited uh into if if it's actually your
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value set that people are tens just however they look instead of intervening through plastic surgery why
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not intervene through like being a therapist or psychologist like like you said people need to
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see a psychologist beforehand but this like you getting into plastic surgery does seem to somewhat
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to her point yeah contradict your own view wouldn't you be better suited convincing people through words
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instead of through the scalpel scalpel i mean i don't want to be a psychologist um i actually like
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growing up really like the idea of plastic surgery and i enjoy watching the surgeries which
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is very morbid like i enjoy the whole process of it that's why i go into it but like i said that's my
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view because i can because nala can come to me and be like hey i want a facelift like i think i look
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like really bad and i could be like oh no you i can't tell you because as a nurse i can't tell you how
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or as a doctor i can't tell you how i my opinion how i feel because that's against the whole idea of
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of that career so she can come with me and say oh i want to facelift because i look ugly and i wanted
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to look a certain way and i want a fox eye and all this stuff and i could be like in my head like i don't
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think she needs it but if she wants it and she's very committed like i don't feel good this is what's
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going to make me prettier this is this then that's when you say okay and that's how it goes by
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did you have a follow-up question well i was going to say well generally it's um like the reason people
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have those insecurities is because of like outside perspectives say they got bullied like for example
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i got bullied for having a flat chest i'm very insecure about my flat chest um so why not go into
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like a different kind of surgery like i don't know brain surgery or like you said you apparently did
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the brain perfectly when you were like doing the practice or whatever i think i was just like
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cutting through like the school i don't it's not if i don't go into plastics i think i would really like
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to go into maternity and peds because i did work at a hospital but that was like something that i
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enjoyed i enjoyed the whole technique of it the technique is so artistic and since i have an artistic
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background that's where it comes from but if let's say like i don't choose that i would go into peds and
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into because i love kids and in maternity because i love would it would it be better in your mind to
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just be able to like hype someone up and just make them feel better about their body like for example for
03:05:25.800
me like i said like i had the whole flat chest thing like if i came to you and said i need double d tits
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right now and you're like you do not need those like wouldn't it be better to just like hype me up
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than to like give me those double d tits you know does that make sense no i i it seems like it makes
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sense there's also times where a lot of plastic surgeons have said have denied the patient and
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been like hey i'm not gonna take you because i feel like oh i don't know if you guys know who barbie
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ken is it's the the brazilian guy who has the crazy like like when because when and he got like
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all these surgeries i think there's a point where you have to be like hey no like this this wouldn't
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be good and they'll go to the other one because a lot of these people too as plastic surgeons they
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don't only go for for the money they also go because there are people who need who like feel
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that change and feel like i really need this to be fixed i do have to move it away from the plastic
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surgery here a couple questions to the 10 here uh so when it comes to your looks do you think that
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you are on par with the most beautiful women in the world um no i feel like i'm beautiful in my own
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way and they're beautiful their own way i feel like if i was like skinnier and how i was like two years ago
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um i've been told a lot that i should go into modeling and that i would really be a good model and
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it was actually kind of an aspiration of like hobby of mine that i would model i also do model for a
03:06:54.840
couple hair salons and i do makeup um shout out to reina um back in pasig but um i wouldn't say that
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i'm like on par with them but i would say that i'm i think i'm really beautiful that's my perspective on
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it because like 10 so 10 is perfect by world standards but like i mean in the bible like
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god says like you were beautifully and wonderfully created like so in god's standards you are good
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like you are a 10 because he created you yeah so why does i mean but you you would you reject
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pretty privilege as in what explain it well i'm not quite sure what that is physically attractive
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confers certain benefits yes i do absolutely so some people on this sliding scale of what is
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physically attractive we can agree that some people are more attractive than others yes they
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are i'm not i'm not saying that we're all equally the same we're absolutely not but in her eyes she's
03:07:55.320
beautiful because you know god made her that way secularist would also just entirely reject
03:08:00.680
this component of this argument when it comes to looks would they yeah because
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faith and religion would have no nothing to do with it no bearing understood yeah
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i mean like i said i think i'm pretty beautiful i think i've always been told by my parents that i'm
03:08:18.600
beautiful i think i'm beautiful i went through years of thinking that i was really ugly and i went
03:08:24.280
through years of bullying and most of those guys wanted to end up being in my so and then actually
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here i'll just get into it so yeah people don't like this question a lot of women don't like the
03:08:38.440
question what do you rate yourself on the scale of one to ten and what i always say is if you have
03:08:45.240
an over elevated sense of your own physical attractiveness or your general attractiveness
03:08:51.800
that could extend beyond just physical appearance it could have to do with your personality perhaps you
03:08:56.520
think you're charismatic but you're actually dull whatever it may be i'm not speaking about you
03:09:00.600
specifically but uh you know you think you have these really you have an attractive whatever it is
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uh but if you have an inaccurate self-assessment you're going to want to be commanding
03:09:14.680
a certain kind of partner uh and i'm not trying to be rude to you but i mean you just go you kind of
03:09:24.680
fit you fit like the perfect whenever i've explained this is that a lot of women have an
03:09:30.600
inaccurate self-assessment of their own attractive attractiveness in the dating marketplace and they're
03:09:36.360
going to either be trying to date a certain caliber of guy that you're either a going to get rejected
03:09:42.920
or b they're going to keep you around for sex and never give you commitment or keep you around from
03:09:47.880
some other extraneous reason and you'll still never get commitment uh so that's why it's really
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important but i mean here you are so i mean i i suppose this delusion as it relates to your demands
03:10:00.200
of wanting to date a man who makes five million dollars a year starts to make a bit more sense
03:10:06.040
because you consider yourself a 10 out of 10 in the dating marketplace
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ergo you deserve a zero less than a zero point zero one percent i never said that i literally said
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when i answered you probably think i'm a three but i think i'm a 10 i'm not saying that i mean
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confidence that's my self-confidence but i'm not being like oh yeah i'm a 10 and i can get every guy
03:10:29.480
in the world no i'm probably not your cup of tea i'm probably not what you like what you want and
03:10:35.880
that's fine okay but so i agree with you that you can acknowledge that people in the outside world
03:10:44.200
will be able to make a determination that they don't think you're a 10 and you're fine with them
03:10:49.160
making that determination the issue is is that it's irrelevant because you still consider yourself
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to be a 10 and you said i won't settle for i mean you moved it down you shifted the goalposts
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in any case desiring a man who makes one million dollars a year is still uh crazy even for a
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really attractive girl that's a big ask because on top of like there's a lot of beautiful women
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don't you live in los angeles no or sorry you live in jersey okay well that makes it i mean
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what do you have against new york city what do you have against jersey no nothing but i mean
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new jersey seven uh los angeles uh anyways um okay so look but and it's like you think you're a 10
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you want the guy who makes five million dollars a year i never i said like that you did you did okay
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i said i re-arridiating myself i said that's what i want but i don't know what's gonna happen in the
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future that's like a want i don't okay but you you come across a guy who's making fifty thousand
03:11:56.280
dollars a year you're gonna turn them down right it's just like it really depends on what
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so okay in order for you to accept a guy who makes fifty thousand dollars a year
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he has to exceed in another metric then i think so he's gotta be really good looking he's got to
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have charisma he's got to be it's the charisma so wanting to get better i think it has to be that
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charisma of i want to work not play cod for five six hours in the day and sleep all day and not go
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to work and not have a job get kicked out of their own apartment that's what but why you don't need a
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five million dollar guy to have a guy who's like works a nine to five and he makes 60k a year look i said
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i was flexible i said that's like base yeah you brought it down to a million that's still crazy that's
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still less than one percent of men a girl can dream i'm 35 i want to date a 19 year old virgin
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who's a victoria's secret model you think i you think i can get her you can dream like a girl tell
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me what do you think i can get her i mean if you can pull her i don't know if they're all virgins but
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no no she has to be a virgin i don't and she has to look she has to be a 10 out of 10 victoria's
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secret model she has to be super submissive super feminine 10 out of 10 giant actually i'm i'm on the
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small titty committee so whatever she can have small boobs she can have big boobs whatever still
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a 10 whatever nice butthelves whatever large labia i only date women large labia what's that like oh
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and she has to be willing to put her career not just in the back seat in the trash can i'm going to take
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care of everything seven sons that's right seven seven sons she ain't gonna have that shape after
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that no literally she ain't gonna have that body after that so i have seven sons
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that's a fucking army whatever bro what if she gives you daughters she's my
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what if she gives you daughters only seven daughters oh we keep going until we get at least a couple
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sons would you adopt would you just be like through her through her oh if it's a girl
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aborted eventually we'll have eventually we'll have a couple sons why why are you shaking your head
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no just what she said i don't know what i said if it's a girl abort it
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i feel like that's the wrong panel to say that that's it it's a joke it was a joke
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she's joking i was gonna say as a trump supporter wait really quick just who's pro-life
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yeah wait really you oh wait wait are you iffy on no i no not iffy at all pro-choice
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pro pro pro do you know what this is i know i know in germany pro-life it's a it's the abortion
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issue so are you pro a woman being able to make a choice but make the choice yeah that's what pro
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choice is or pro-life is where you think no that's not acceptable well so wait no then i think i'm pro
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choice what oh my no words have meaning dude wait so okay pro-life pro-life pro-choice catholic by
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the way um pro-life life pro-life i think it's more of a complex issue i can't just say i'm pro-life
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or pro-choice but technically you could say pro-choice yes pro-choice pro-life okay wait so
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andrew was actually kind of spot on with the picking and choosing when it comes to the catholic faith
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here no i my personal okay so yeah i had a baby and i went through a situation where at one side of
03:15:43.000
my family said i had to abort and the other side of the family said to keep the baby and it was a
03:15:47.800
miracle and i had a conversation with god and god showed me my punishment if i was going to abort my
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child that is the reason why i had my child because no one knows how they're going to feel in that
03:15:58.920
situation i was in the middle of columbia doing something that could really bring my career up as an
03:16:03.960
artist and basically i was either leave everything and have this child or not and i get emotional about
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this because it was the best decision i made no you made the right choice so if like a woman wants
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to abort that's their problem but that's not mine if they want if they want to have a an abortion
03:16:22.760
because of like abuse and stuff like that and they or that's their choice i mean when it comes to me
03:16:29.160
if you're getting an abortion because you can't keep you can't use any time a contraceptive because
03:16:35.000
you don't want to that's a different thing but there's incest there's all these stuff that
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happen if you want to get an abortion i get it well we can talk about the abortion topic later but i i
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do want to bring it back to the conversation about uh you know this whole 10 thing so oh my god is it
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quick yeah i just want to touch on the skill thing because i feel like it's harder to really rate
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yourself on a scale because everyone's scale is so different how they view the world in themselves
03:16:59.640
like i've never thought about myself at all on this scale level or anyone else like if i see
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attractive guy i'm like oh he's attractive i'm not like oh he's an eight i'm or i see a guy i don't
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i'm not attracted to my friends attracted to and i'm not she's like oh he's a seven i'm like oh he's
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a two i've never done that because i think everyone's made in the image of god and i also think everyone
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has a different type of person in different way of how they are raised in their values and of the
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scale itself yeah but i mean there is some degree of like if you show people images of one person and
03:17:31.400
another person and like there's clear discrepancy clear differential in terms of their outward
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physical appearance then like you show you show a thousand women pictures of two men
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and like if there's huge gaps like probably 99 of the women are going to be like yeah that guy's more
03:17:52.840
attractive so while people have different tastes and differences and so forth like there i think there
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is some degree of andrew's got me fucked up on this because maybe i don't know the word object
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objectively but like i do think there is some degree of objectivity when it comes to physical appearance
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don't do it andrew don't fucking do it andrew don't you don't you okay anyways
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you want to date a guy i don't know i want to go past this because this keeps coming back
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and basically i feel like at this point it's just like trying to get me to look like crap on the
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internet and i've re-rated myself a lot of times and i don't want to start getting upset because
03:18:47.080
this is a podcast and you know it's about people's opinions and views and you keep going back to me
03:18:51.800
specifically i understand that i'm okay fat right now and that i'm like and i even if you were skinny
03:18:58.120
no offense you wouldn't be okay that's your personal opinion like coming to you that i mean that's your
03:19:04.280
personal opinion i have my own opinion some guys think i'm a 10 some guys think i'm a two i don't
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care like i really don't i want to go past this question i want to go past the the five million
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dollar stuff i'm over it like it's done it's gone with i explained myself i don't need to explain
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myself even more okay i mean you don't have to you don't have to explain yourself but i'll just talk
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i guess the issue is is that no i want you to skip this like well i mean you're not that was the
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podcast so if i want to talk about this for the next hour i will okay and there's other women here
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who have also answered the question when i'm talking about this it's not necessarily all about
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you but in any case look what i see happening in the dating marketplace is there's and this is even
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directed at you is a lot of women are gassed up by social media by their friends you look at
03:19:55.560
a girl's instagram oh slay queen you're fucking gorgeous blah blah blah whereas if you look at the
03:20:01.000
dude's instagram his friends are fucking clowning on him you look like a fucking idiot this kind of
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thing right y'all like to tell each other comforting lies whereas men want to hear uncomfortable truths
03:20:13.240
right the thing the difference is is that as me if i step to a step to a girl who's outside of my league
03:20:20.040
i get instantly rejected i don't get it i don't get a conversation i don't get a date i don't get
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anything it's because you're in california what do you mean yeah well like you're talking about
03:20:31.000
girls like like if it was she was a 10 or something but like who here in california that's a 10 is
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actually like great to talk to no no it's not about that it doesn't matter where you are the same
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phenomenon would happen anywhere because this is just the nature of the dynamics between men and women
03:20:45.960
so men get rejected on the front end so if i step to a girl who's out of my league clearly just on a
03:20:52.120
comparison look maybe she has a preference for look i think looks are incredibly important in fact
03:20:57.400
i think women care more about looks and are way pickier about looks than men are that's another
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conversation but if i step to a girl who's outside of my league instant rejection i don't get conversation
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i don't get a date i don't get sexual access it's a little different for women as a woman if you step
03:21:15.560
to a guy who's outside of your league and you make yourself sexually available to him
03:21:22.520
even if you're below him in terms of physical appearance you can still get sexual access to that
03:21:28.360
guy you can still get a date he might be like i'll never commit to this girl but she's offering sex i'll
03:21:37.080
take sex once twice maybe i'll keep her around as a friends with benefits and so what ends up happening
03:21:44.840
is women get sexual access to men that are outside their league whether this and this could
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it doesn't even have to be about looks it could be about socioeconomic status it could be fame
03:21:56.920
a nobody chick can go fuck a famous rapper a nobody chick can go fuck a famous athlete
03:22:03.560
a nobody guy can't step to i mean there's some exceptions most nobody dudes can't step to taylor swift
03:22:10.680
and get taylor swift or some other you know famous woman who has a lot of status and so what ends up
03:22:16.280
happening you got these girls you get rejected on the back end you won't you'll never get commitment
03:22:23.480
from these men but they welcome the easy access to sex they'll fuck you once a couple times keep you
03:22:29.240
around as a friends with benefits you'll never get commitment you'll spend your 20s doing this not all
03:22:34.600
women but many will spend their 20s chasing after men who are frankly outside their league and they'll
03:22:39.640
wonder why don't they ever get commitment from them situationships fuck buddies etc why are men so
03:22:44.920
scared of commitment actually the men who are interested in commitment you're turning them down
03:22:50.600
you're rejecting them and again i know this doesn't apply to all women especially the two women here who
03:22:55.800
are waiting until marriage you kind of avoid this to some degree because uh you're not offering yourself
03:23:03.400
up in terms of sexual access to men but if you were you could get with men who are outside of your league
03:23:11.480
who will never give you commitment on the sole basis of your looks and the differential here is
03:23:16.680
typically for women in order for you guys to sleep with a guy he has to at least be physically
03:23:23.960
attractive enough for you to be in a relationship with him and typically when women who are even women who
03:23:31.160
are perhaps uh reluctant to engage in casual sex when they do engage in casual sex they typically will
03:23:38.120
have to uh they'll make the exception for a really attractive guy they'll take the opportunity with
03:23:45.240
a really attractive guy when men engage in more casual sex they tend it's the opposite they'll
03:23:51.160
fuck a woman they would never consider even being in a relationship with they'll fuck down so to speak
03:23:57.000
so what ends up happening though with women who are not chaste is y'all end up having sexual access
03:24:05.960
to men who are outside of your league you think that's what you can get but your league is not
03:24:10.680
the men you can have sex with your league is the men who will give you a ring and give you commitment
03:24:17.080
and so this is why i think it's incredibly important for women to have a reasonable
03:24:21.080
self-assessment of their physical attractiveness because maybe you can fuck a guy who makes five
03:24:27.400
million dollars a year but can you get him to marry you're gonna get you're gonna get marriage you're
03:24:32.440
gonna get commitment we had this 37 year old on the show last week 37 year old she said i don't know
03:24:39.000
what's going on the past couple weeks she said she wanted the guy had to have a seven million dollar
03:24:44.600
house and he had to make at least one million dollar a year and it's like
03:24:54.760
it's gonna be tough yeah they might want to you are they are you gonna get the commitment though
03:25:01.560
because that's when women win because when winning as a woman is not oh i can fuck a dude that's your
03:25:09.080
default fuck anyone yeah you can fuck anybody so like fucking a guy is not like a metric
03:25:14.520
for success that's not a w for you as a one hooking up with the guy whatever it is that's not a w for
03:25:20.520
you the w is when you get the commitment when you get the ring well there you go you got it
03:25:27.720
so uh anyways that's my take on this if i could add something um i feel like the reason that that
03:25:39.960
fuck down and women will fuck up i don't know that's the best way i can describe it but
03:25:46.760
um i think men tend to rate themselves lower because they have lower self-esteem because of
03:25:52.360
like what you said is that like if you go on a girl's instagram all her friends are hyping her up
03:25:56.920
if you go on a guy's instagram all his friends are you know putting him down and that's going to get into
03:26:03.800
your like brain eventually so when a guy is convinced that he is you know a three or four when
03:26:12.360
maybe he's a seven or an eight he will settle for a three or four i disagree i think that the guys who
03:26:22.520
are the seven and the eights you might be right they're being clowned by their friends when they make
03:26:26.520
those posts um i think the reason why they have sex with women below them is because they can
03:26:33.880
because they just want to they have a higher status no no they just want to have sex they just they
03:26:38.760
they will have sex with whoever whatever but because they can because they want to um and the key for
03:26:45.000
those men the men who are the higher numbers the eights the nines the tens is the ring that's kind
03:26:50.520
of what we're discussing it's like when one of those guys puts a ring on their finger that's how you know
03:26:56.520
that he's with whoever he's matched with and i would say typically it's probably not somebody
03:27:01.080
who's going to be below him it's going to be somebody who's at his level you know like a taylor
03:27:05.240
swift and a travis kelsey you know let me ask travis kelsey's probably had sex with a ton of people
03:27:09.480
let me ask the girls here questions so like at least from my perspective and i'll ask the corresponding
03:27:14.200
question here so at least for me if i can sleep with a girl there's a fairly high probability
03:27:20.280
i'm a high degree of confidence i can get her in a relationship i don't know if women can as easily
03:27:28.520
say just because you can sleep with a guy you can get that guy in a relationship facts i i don't i
03:27:34.280
agree i 100 is that fair to say so yeah i think so like to uh to elanus it's elanus how dare you
03:27:44.360
what is it it's elanus how dare you andrew didn't i say that no you said elanus it's elanus analist
03:27:50.440
oh my god sorry i'm sorry that was okay uh earlier in the conversation you said uh to brian marica
03:27:59.400
what does that mean oh marica is like friend it's like a colombian slang it's like it means two different
03:28:05.560
things it's like a friendly thing because i call all my friends what's the other thing it means
03:28:10.440
huh it you said it means two different things what's the second thing i mean it means friend
03:28:15.240
we use it as friend wait you said it means two different things what's well i mean it's a it's a
03:28:20.760
it's a bad word and then it means friend yeah what's the bad word i'm just gonna say i called him my
03:28:27.320
friend yeah but what's the bad word oh she was talking not no i was saying oh my god like what is
03:28:34.120
he saying like that's what i was saying in spanish i wasn't saying the bad word yeah but what's
03:28:37.720
you're trying to catch me lucky what does the bad word mean i'm not seeing it andrew texted it
03:28:44.600
it was said in the chat earlier on someone does it mean homosexual no that's what maricon is
03:28:53.400
okay so what is marica marica's friend that's what i call my family yeah but what's the other word
03:28:58.840
what's the other way it's used oh my god that's the other word which is maricon that it comes from
03:29:05.720
maricon and it's called marica yeah okay and you just you just you were you were calling him
03:29:13.080
friend yeah okay or this guy there's a lot of like wait when was she calling me that
03:29:21.720
it was just a few minutes ago and you said they would want to see your son with a
03:29:25.640
andrew cut the foreplay what it wasn't me that literally said what it means she was calling you
03:29:31.560
gay basically no i hear whoever on the chat who it means sissy no yeah i could i speak oh oh it means
03:29:41.720
the f word no wait that's what that's what someone said in the chat that's what maricon is it's a
03:29:47.000
similar word it's a similar word i'm the one who speaks spanish i'm the one who goes to colombia i'm
03:29:51.880
telling you maricon is what that is wait what was the context andrew this is when you were talking
03:29:57.560
about how you would want your daughter to be with or your son to be with a seven no and then that
03:30:04.360
that had nothing to do with that that had nothing to do with that that had nothing to do with that i
03:30:09.560
was talking about the whole like five million that had nothing to do with the son okay and it means
03:30:15.400
my guy because i can go to the street in colombia say cue marica what's up my guy because i actually
03:30:22.040
go there is it like similar to like me calling like a friend like a close friend of mine like a
03:30:27.080
bitch but like i mean it in like a friendly way yeah yeah yeah yeah okay got it a couple chats here
03:30:31.720
coming through dollars vulgarity in the abstract is not a sin rather it's the men's rear slash intent
03:30:38.840
that determines whether it's sinful dot are you literally trying to make a moral equivalency between
03:30:44.040
events cigars slash ulgarity yo lucas thank you so much for the uh message man there were a couple
03:30:49.960
that came through um we bumped by the way the tts is back up to 200 but there are a couple 69s that
03:30:55.400
came through i'll let those come in uh and then ogle here ogle donated 200 ask big mama what she calls
03:31:05.000
you in spanish brian what no no no no i know it wasn't you but what was she saying i mean she said
03:31:12.920
she said what she said yeah is is like yeah is but i said marica that's different also don't say
03:31:19.080
the don't say the slur in spanish either on youtube oh don't say it in spanish okay sorry
03:31:23.560
we can't say it in english but we can say it in spanish
03:31:27.640
like what's he saying you know this guy i'll let these come in mc underscore rocker donated 69
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dollars and 99 cents could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe
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in god above they should realize before they criticize that god is the only way to love nala
03:31:49.640
people are listening they sure are thank you rocker really appreciate it man thank you so much
03:31:55.320
uh we have a couple we have like three or four more coming in oilers fan donated 69
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message for chair number two orley on dry side aisle with long hair
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sick dirty dangles bro hope you can carry the depth of the team without mcdavid
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what does that mean what does that mean what uh okay oh we got it we got a spicy one coming in
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oh boy watch out take a shower you blank guzzling mole rat you look sticky and like you slept in your
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makeup for days rates from right to left 4.5 3.5 5 4 excuse me 5 3 4.5 4 brian 4.5 andrew 5.5 lose
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weight plus lift okay thank you uh nala take a shower please i i look did you shower before the
03:32:50.920
show yes i showered last night but not like this morning did you use a loofah or the the loofah
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like a scrubby thing no just a washcloth you loofahs are supposed to like hold bacteria so i don't use
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them washcloths did the same thing unless you watch it 25 donated 99 dollars yo smithers thank you brian
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for bringing this topic of course nala said california as a man not in california it is way
03:33:16.520
harder for a man than a woman no it absolutely is i was just speaking to the fact that women in
03:33:24.120
california tend to be a different breed and like you know they are way harder to speak to and actually
03:33:29.880
befriend even as a girl from here like dude it's hard like girls here are odd like so weird like oh
03:33:38.440
like even the way they speak it's like oh my god and you're just like speak english how long were
03:33:45.560
you in la for uh three and a half years yeah that's why sam barb is not so bad i guess no it's nice here
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lucas donated 100 beauty is objective with some variability dot based on ratios golden ratio and
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symmetry markers of good genes dot count with this cope dot i'm six feet four inches good shape and
03:34:08.840
think of myself as a six average is okay for the for the single in reality for the single woman would
03:34:15.080
you date an average guy yes yeah i'm not single either yeah you date an average guy yeah but five
03:34:28.200
million dollars a year is not average okay well you can look average too like what what does an average
03:34:34.760
guy look like exactly exactly it's different for everyone what they think they're averages it's like
03:34:40.440
weight height yeah just what's an average average income brian yeah i'm pretty average looking
03:34:49.720
i'm super curious rate me oh yeah yeah um i i won't be offended four i will not be offended
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wait four oh my goodness it's six okay um you can i won't be offended say you can be honest
03:35:17.480
go ahead i don't like this um go ahead i would say i don't i don't i would say i'm gonna go with the 10
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you're nicer than me brian doesn't believe that he's not the cap
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uh uh which rate andrew two oh i mean i just i mean if i wasn't really planning on going around
03:35:45.000
the table it's just for her so whatever um we have uh ogle donated two hundred dollars
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can each panelist say which other panelists they think is most beautiful
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run the show man so um i really appreciate all your guys's support also guys like the video
03:37:58.360
also big labia matter okay uh let's see where were we at ogle hang on so on the on the prettiest
03:38:05.240
thing the question was yeah uh who they who the girls in the room think is the prettiest girl so
03:38:10.440
here's the experiment okay and nobody's gonna like it you're all gonna be upset about it but it's
03:38:15.160
actually a pretty good one so here's what i want you to do i want you to take a good look around the
03:38:19.160
room all of you real quick at all the different girls who are sitting there right take a good look
03:38:25.000
okay now all of you close your eyes and squeeze them tight and then put your hand like this
03:38:29.400
so that we know you're not peeking all of you okay now point at the grill you thought was the prettiest
03:38:39.320
wait this is gonna that's confusing bro they can't see who i'm pointing at
03:38:44.280
should we just raise our hand and you say our names i can't see who i'm pointing to that
03:38:49.720
huh yeah that's fine do chair one we raise our hand chair two you raise your hand is that easier
03:38:55.480
are we still doing this wait it's not working what it's really i i mean i mean i think it would have
03:39:01.800
worked but it's all right well you could say like chair one can they do they have to cover their eyes
03:39:06.440
can they just say it yeah well the point is is that they don't know who everyone else is pointing
03:39:14.200
at right oh that's easier okay wait wait so here i guess with the hands you show wait but there's
03:39:20.120
more than wait i have an idea bro that's what i'm saying so if we all close our eyes and then andrew
03:39:25.480
you want to if you want to roll call each of the chairs chair one and then you raise your hand to
03:39:30.920
whichever chair okay yeah why are we raising our hands though i'm like if we're pointing out for
03:39:35.400
that person who you think is the most attractive you just say what chair yeah he's gonna say the
03:39:39.800
chair and you're gonna have your eyes closed and you raise your hand to whoever you're the chair that
03:39:44.120
you think so they got to come at the chair number chair number to memory one two three four one two
03:39:50.360
three four five six seven eight okay so get the number in your head close your eyes all you close
03:39:57.240
your eyes right cover them don't look around because that's cheating okay chair one raise your hand
03:40:05.240
if it's for chair one oh okay if it's for chair two raise your hand
03:40:36.600
oh my you don't get to know you don't get to know you guys
03:40:45.320
we probably will i was like oh wait i have a little i have a little intel here
03:40:50.600
escarlata brian the michelin man called you a can't say that word on youtube and tried to say
03:40:56.680
you are delusional in spanish also she can't call a random colombian that and not get hurt
03:41:02.440
also her colombian accent is fake and forced what okay cope um i i honestly can you respond to that in
03:41:38.280
can't oh my god i love that that was good that was good that was beautiful she called me she called
03:41:45.480
me a uh should we translate to english uh no what i said was that um i know spanish really well my
03:41:53.240
family's from bogotan from tolima in colombia um and that um my mom taught me spanish that i sing
03:42:00.120
in spanish and that i also speak in portuguese because that was my first language and english was my
03:42:06.120
second lucas donated 100 look at us census slash cdc dot average guy is five feet nine inches
03:42:15.160
makes a prox forty nine thousand dollars as i said i'm six feet four inches in shape law firm partner
03:42:23.720
make seven fix and i still think i'm a six now uh who identified themselves on the panel as a seven
03:42:41.880
i just wonder right for all the sevens and eights and nines and tens if i were to tell you
03:42:51.000
that almost every girl on the panel pointed towards one girl on the panel and not at the
03:42:56.760
ones who identified as the seven eights nines and tens would that surprise you not at all no how
03:43:02.280
come because like i've said my 10 comes from my self-confidence it doesn't come from what other
03:43:08.600
people perceive of me and i know that somebody explain the rationale behind that because i don't
03:43:13.720
actually understand it i hear this all the time but the question is just asking about physical
03:43:18.920
characteristics it's not asking about confidence it's not asking about anything for instance was
03:43:23.240
that described clearly though yeah well like for instance um you don't know anything about a man's
03:43:29.000
confidence and things like this when you swipe right on him right you're just looking at a picture
03:43:33.720
and you can agree with me that you look at pictures of men who you think are handsome or not
03:43:37.480
handsome you don't know anything about their personality this and that so you can clearly
03:43:41.640
gauge physical characteristics so how come you think that women so often will talk about everything
03:43:48.520
except physical characteristics do you think it's because you don't want to offend other women
03:43:54.040
i think it's like a sensitive subject i think i mean yeah i think it's just a sensitive subject i don't
03:44:03.080
know what you think because you're like the people who were like seven plus like i don't know what what
03:44:08.040
do you think now i honestly think that your your answer really came from like what you truly believe
03:44:14.680
in yourself you described that you were bullied as a kid and that you have brought yourself to the place
03:44:19.080
you are now um going through as much as you did and that in your belief you believe you're a 10 because
03:44:26.200
you have worked this hard to get to where you're at right now and you think you know what i'm a 10 it
03:44:32.040
doesn't matter what you think i am but i think i'm a 10 it wasn't the question wasn't what someone
03:44:36.520
else thinks i am well then there you go with the interrupting again i love it go ahead andrew
03:44:41.720
i'll enlighten you just based on pure physical i'm sorry i haven't i haven't talked here in about
03:44:46.680
an hour i haven't said anything because it wasn't about you was i interrupting your interruption yeah
03:44:51.320
right so anyway uh no i was just gonna ask why is it that you think that she's not a 10 or do you
03:44:57.560
think she is one i never said she wasn't a 10 yeah is she one physically physically no okay and so uh
03:45:07.480
based on this metric do you think that there's delusion no no i really don't no no do you think
03:45:16.120
that people's physical assessment of themselves is uh generally non-delusional non-delusional no
03:45:22.600
sometimes i do think it is delusional because some people come out with come at it with a big
03:45:27.160
pride in their heart like an ego that they think that they're they are the way they are but from
03:45:31.160
what i'm hearing from her it's coming out of a place of humility like she's built herself up to
03:45:35.560
where she is now and that's why she feels the way she is you're a humble 10
03:45:45.000
okay i think like i've said before i know that like as like i think what you mean delusionals because
03:45:50.280
like yeah i know like i don't look the prettiest now and i'm not the prettiest in your eyes and i
03:45:54.760
know that i have to like work on my physical feature about my weight and i've rereaded it like
03:46:00.520
so many times where i said i'm on a weight loss journey i am losing weight i know because i care
03:46:05.800
about my health i eat health i eat good i like eat healthy and i drink a lot of water and stuff like
03:46:11.320
that so i mean i think my 10 is because i know i'm a 10 and i know i can physically get better and that's
03:46:18.760
from my view to myself because i think that's what's more important and i know and i've been
03:46:24.280
saying that i am honestly like i see that guys could think i'm a two or a one or a zero and i don't
03:46:30.520
care yeah and i understand that they say oh you're two okay i'm not your cup andrew i'm curious to
03:46:36.280
see what you think about yourself yeah that's oh i'm a 10 for sure he's a 10 did i did i agree
03:46:43.240
yeah if all these fucking delusional broads could be 10 i could be a 10 too see that's the thing why
03:46:48.520
i don't understand why you proclaim christ because in no way shape or form would god talk like sorry
03:46:53.640
i don't lie i'm sorry i won't lie oh i'm not asking you to be delusional i'm asking you to lie to be
03:46:58.760
delusion nala i'm sorry that that upsets you nala wait you expect me to lie i never once asked you to
03:47:04.040
lie that's out of your mouth not mine but andrew what did you well then what is it what is it that i
03:47:08.840
should do should i lie to people to make them feel better no and again okay i've never said
03:47:13.080
that what am i you're saying that is like so for me like in no way in the bible it even talks about
03:47:18.920
perverse speech and that is a sin so you cussing and slandering people you you called me a whore
03:47:26.360
did he not you are he did a prostitute i think you know he always said a whore thank you not gonna take
03:47:33.560
uh a correction from a whore yes so my thing is too you want to talk about lying and then you said
03:47:38.840
for six months you were a whore six months ago now you're gonna go on what the bible says eight
03:47:43.720
months ago fucking real eight months ago get fucked i'm not gonna take correction wait andrew isn't
03:47:48.840
there six months ago that's insane i love that you're proving your character out right now wait
03:47:52.840
andrew andrew i want every christian to hear i am not going to take correction from someone who denies
03:47:59.320
the divinity of christ it was a whore six months never did that and it was eight months ago invasion of
03:48:04.120
the church that i'm talking about the invasion of what your delusional mind he's an expert
03:48:08.520
minister it's like it's ridiculous you don't know anything about your faith you know nothing
03:48:13.240
about i absolutely do i know that i'm on fire for christ because he absolutely saved me people
03:48:18.360
as a former prostitute six months ago it's ridiculous oh you know what's funny paul killed
03:48:23.160
people in the bible and absolutely wrote letters to churches about what they did uh-huh hey andrew
03:48:29.960
let me help you andrew i got you call him literally appeared to paul jesus christ ministry
03:48:40.120
andrew wait andrew andrew andrew i can't say well let me help i feel like i can help this out a bit
03:48:46.920
a little bit andrew isn't it the case you know isn't there like a bible verse about uh like
03:48:54.440
women are not supposed to correct men on theology yes well this is according to paul oh my god
03:49:01.240
she just quoted in facts according to paul what in the old testament but no that's in the new
03:49:06.360
testament where you know what the book of paul is right you know what corinthians is that all
03:49:11.720
the you know what paul wrote right dude one of my favorite verses in the bible is second corinthians
03:49:16.280
5 17 for we all are a new creation in christ my favorite is proverbs 21 19 you didn't know who
03:49:21.000
paul was five seconds ago you want to say what proverbs is wait go ahead andrew what what is the
03:49:26.440
verse about the not correcting theology of yeah i can pull it up real quick yeah pull it up
03:49:32.120
proverbs 21 19 better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging yeah that's where
03:49:37.640
the quarrelsome i'm not his wife thank you no that's just my favorite it has nothing to do with the
03:49:43.160
discussion at hand that's my favorite bible verse yeah andrew you have a sticker of it now that
03:49:47.560
thank you yeah it goes hard it's first timothy stop first timothy which is still paul by the
03:49:53.960
way of course wait by the way that's first timothy stop simping stop simping it's below the threshold
03:49:59.480
bro sorry you got you got it but anyway be at the threshold uh do you want you want me to read the
03:50:03.560
verse first timothy i think it's first timothy 212 yeah do it we want you we want you to read it
03:50:09.400
do it in your darth vader voice though put the red the red light on i do not permit a woman to
03:50:15.800
teach or have authority over a man she must be silent boom roasted okay was this in context of
03:50:21.160
how the women were told not to talk in church because they didn't know the language that they
03:50:24.440
were speaking so they're told instead of like talking with each other be quiet so the men could
03:50:28.600
hear is that the context of the verse no that's not the context okay who's the church wait what do you
03:50:33.480
say who's the church in timothy what church was what church no who is the church i'm asking you who
03:50:40.520
the church is we are the body of christ everyone everyone's the church god is the church christians
03:50:47.240
are christians are the church we are the body of christ absolutely okay so if christians are the
03:50:53.400
church and isn't everywhere church where there's christians
03:50:55.560
i don't understand what the question is pointing at do do do do okay so who who's the church and all
03:51:06.680
christians the body of christ okay so then everywhere that christians are is that church
03:51:12.280
everywhere that real christians are yes i believe that we make up the body of christ and you can have
03:51:15.960
church anywhere so then that means that if everywhere that there are christians who are together then
03:51:21.400
uh this would it be this would mean i do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man she
03:51:26.360
must be silent and even if that means in church and church is just referring to bodies of christians
03:51:32.200
then would that mean that women are not supposed to teach men they must remain silent they must be
03:51:35.800
silent i don't understand uh the context of this just because of like before it question so what are
03:51:42.760
your takes on nuns in that point in the monasteries and that yeah it's not this is not my world
03:51:48.920
view i'm i'm asking their world view i'm not i'm not well i'm not talking so the thing is is a lot
03:51:53.800
of people take but i'm asking you out of context yes because they're not you're not reading before
03:51:58.280
and after this we don't even i don't have anything to this can i i'd like to read the whole chapter
03:52:03.880
honestly i come from a church as a nomination here's the here's the quote before hey she's talking
03:52:10.680
andrew she's talking full submission that's nice she can still not talk i'm talking i do not permit a
03:52:16.200
woman to teach or to assume authority over man she must be quiet what it says before that woman
03:52:20.120
should learn a quietness and full submission okay what did you have i come from a denomination reform
03:52:27.240
presbyterian um where we actually do not permit women to preach we do not them we do not have women
03:52:34.760
pastors we don't we don't let them preach we don't allow women to be elders however that does not mean
03:52:41.560
that women cannot talk to other people outside of the church about god we can still spread the word
03:52:47.160
of god and we can still tell people about that okay agreed people who are christians we've already
03:52:52.600
answered that okay so then everywhere you go where there's christians would be the church yes but we
03:52:57.880
are called to speak to the unbelievers every place you go which is christians by your view then is church
03:53:03.480
then that means that any place that women are where there's other christians who are men they should
03:53:07.400
not be teaching them right no you said that wait so do you think that just everybody it's a logical
03:53:12.680
it's a pastor it's literally a logical entailment of this position there's like sorry god moved on
03:53:19.480
okay sorry uh we i mean look i i've been pretty generous with the time that's been given to non-dating
03:53:28.200
related topics when when it comes to religion i just i have to move it on at this point uh and we're
03:53:33.560
very far behind you know what andrew we can i'm just offering no more no more
03:53:41.640
what's up i just think that we can talk later maybe yes that's all i was gonna say no more
03:53:48.040
about the topic right now how long are you in santa barbara for nala literally till tomorrow night
03:53:52.040
oh you're leaving i'm yeah stick around come join our election day stream it's not a dating no i'm
03:53:57.080
sorry i have another podcast in texas andrew can join that one she's busy um okay so i'd rather i'd
03:54:07.160
rather actually just do a straight up debate just to call in debate uh with you one v one with a
03:54:13.720
moderator where you can't evade questions you can't lie you can't pivot you can't straw man you can't
03:54:20.120
bullshit that's what i would prefer oh i'm so down together oh both together i'd love that i'll do
03:54:25.480
both together i would love that oh yeah we need to get your husband to stay by one day
03:54:30.680
i'll pay for your i'm sorry no you can't pay for my other podcast to be redone
03:54:37.400
wait what but hey okay i'll give brian my phone number so he can pass it along to you and we'll
03:54:43.000
set something you guys can figure it out let's set a date let's set a day right now let's talk about
03:54:46.680
dating that way you do it live and you can't later go you know i like to change my mind
03:54:52.840
i never said that i never said that you won't do it and what part of this do you not understand okay
03:55:00.920
so let's set a day right now let's set a day what day you want to do what do you got next week
03:55:06.840
she doesn't have her calendar i literally do not have my phone otherwise i could tell you
03:55:11.640
you have monday okay you guys you guys got to figure this out off stream i'm sorry but
03:55:16.680
uh okay so final thing on this 10 thing uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years
03:55:22.520
time starting with you nala go ahead i have no idea honestly i hope so but age uh age takes place and
03:55:28.680
probably not no okay do i look better in 10 years would you look wait so hold on let did i
03:55:35.960
don't know if i got a straight answer here nala you're 26 will you be better looking in 10 years time
03:55:39.800
at 36 no obviously i'm in my 20s like these are the best times of my life right now okay true i mean
03:55:48.440
if i'm gonna take good care of my body do care of my skin that's important right now that's has been
03:55:54.520
important since i was like 15 16 i will definitely be good looking at that time but better better
03:56:02.280
looking i think we're peaking in our 20s okay so not better looking at 30 no okay you're 20 will
03:56:09.960
you be better looking in 10 years time at 30 i don't think so uh looking at my parents sorry mom
03:56:16.680
uh i just i just don't see it happening even if i do take care of myself i'm not avril lavigne like
03:56:23.160
i'm not gonna yeah okay uh you're 34 will you be better looking in 10 years time at 44 no and then
03:56:30.280
you're 34 were you better looking at 24 yes okay you're 19 do you think you'll be better looking
03:56:35.320
in 10 years time at 29 no okay you're 22 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time
03:56:39.880
at uh 32 no okay you're 21 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 31 i hope so
03:56:45.560
but probably not okay uh 33 better looking at 10 years time 43 no and then uh were you better
03:56:51.800
looking at 23 than you are now at 33 definitely huh okay that was a simple one uh let's see what about
03:56:59.120
You think you're going to look better in 10 years?
03:57:10.000
I'm definitely not going to be better looking in 10 years' time.
03:57:32.160
The surfing ones, I was like probably, I don't know.
03:58:41.840
I got the beard, and I got about two years of more cortisol than most people.
03:58:50.960
I feel like people with blue eyes look younger in general.
03:59:06.240
I feel like blue with white on the inside of them.
03:59:16.920
You look like you're going to shoot lasers out of your eyes.
03:59:25.320
Oh, we haven't done the bear question in a while.
03:59:38.820
You can either spawn a random man or a random bear.
03:59:46.160
You're going to cross paths with either the man or the bear.
04:00:18.660
I feel like my chances with finding a man that's not going to kill me is higher than finding
04:00:24.300
my chances with a bear that's not going to kill me.
04:00:38.840
Maybe we're like cool buddies at the end or something.
04:00:53.280
Have you guys seen the movie Meredith or whatever?
04:01:04.880
Finally, we have quite a few notes from everybody.
04:01:08.720
Did you say your denomination really quick when it came?
04:01:13.580
You said that there's actually a couple videos that I just wanted to pull up on.
04:01:55.860
I promise you, Andrew was nowhere in my universe of thinking when I got baptized.
04:02:00.420
Not when you got baptized, but because you got baptized.
04:02:09.260
Did your hair dye start bleeding when you did that?
04:02:27.980
Not really dating related, but earlier on in the show, you mentioned that all these
04:02:32.640
OF creators, including yourself, you kind of, you know, you exaggerate things or you'll
04:02:39.420
make things up because clickbait, whatever your words.
04:02:45.240
So I feel like you're probably free to talk about some of this stuff.
04:02:52.940
Um, you know, we'll have girls who've come on the show.
04:02:58.220
They cap about stories, these anecdotes because they think that they can get low.
04:03:04.760
So do you know this girl, there's this girl who we might have on the show, but, uh, they're
04:03:09.820
like, say they'll sleep with like two, a hundred guys in a day.
04:03:13.780
Maybe that's this one girl going around lately.
04:03:19.700
But she just was like, I, I just slept with 101 guys in one day.
04:03:26.900
Again, I'm not here sitting here going to call anybody a liar.
04:03:36.920
You don't need to speak about like any specific people, but I want to get the intel.
04:03:41.360
So like, what are the dark secrets of being an online strumpet?
04:03:57.160
I think the biggest one that men are being fed the lie that they're speaking to the girl
04:04:10.040
They're being, they're being, they're talking to chatters.
04:04:12.600
And I hope that discourages people from being on OnlyFans and being on any porn site is
04:04:20.180
You are speaking to probably a middle-aged man acting like the girl.
04:04:26.560
People, maybe in India, India being outsourced who like, you don't have full of, like, you
04:04:33.380
don't have like full ownership of your account.
04:04:38.200
However, people are running it for you because you have such a high demand and you are the
04:04:46.020
This is why I went on so many podcasts is to go viral so that I made more money.
04:04:51.960
Dude, I had like 107,000 subscribers at one point.
04:04:57.220
And at the time, it seemed like the right idea.
04:04:59.260
However, now, obviously, since I'm out, things are very different.
04:05:18.940
And that's like a sin that I've carried for, well, since I got off OnlyFans and got baptized.
04:05:25.720
And if I could apologize again to any male who had my OnlyFans and I caused you to sin or
04:05:30.380
caused you to stumble, I want to give you a heart, like just an apology because you didn't
04:05:36.760
Um, but if it can get you off of OnlyFans, letting you know that you are not actually
04:05:46.900
Maybe in some very small, tiny creator circle, you are speaking to the girl who has like a
04:05:58.580
Getting a huge cut of what they make on OnlyFans.
04:06:01.680
Like, that is the darkest secret I have for you guys.
04:06:07.420
And it's just like, it's a really hard reality to face, especially when you're sitting there
04:06:11.040
being vulnerable in front of a screen and literally speaking to a middle-aged man.
04:06:18.160
I almost, I, I, this thought crossed my mind when it came to like the fraud, when it comes
04:06:23.320
to like the typers and chatters is like, is there any potential civil liability?
04:06:28.740
Like, could some attorney bring like a class action lawsuit?
04:06:33.060
Because basically, uh, like you said, pretty much most of these OF girls, they're not responding
04:06:42.420
And they could not speak about it or they would get sued.
04:06:52.660
No, OnlyFans partners with these agencies to do it.
04:07:06.300
So at this point, they could, instead of paying like a.
04:07:11.780
But like the, I think the fraud comes when the women are saying, no, I don't have that.
04:07:18.020
I mean, I still think it's wrong, even if they're not like, you know, they're not making
04:07:28.020
But if they're actually making the affirmative claim that you're speaking to me, but it's
04:07:36.260
But they're saying, no, you were talking to me, no management, none of this bullshit.
04:07:48.160
And then like OnlyFans has to have like some duty.
04:07:53.160
They could be like, oh no, in this case, this was actually happening.
04:07:59.860
They're getting, these people are getting paid.
04:08:03.020
As attorneys would just find this in discovery, I think the biggest trigger here is OnlyFans.
04:08:08.180
OnlyFans hired or partnered with these companies to do this.
04:08:13.900
Like it's not like OnlyFans doesn't know this is going on behind their back.
04:08:18.860
And just within like what, uh, last year, 2023, they made $3 billion off of girls on
04:08:28.380
So I definitely think there could be some like class action that targets like the top
04:08:37.400
I mean, they could target all the creators on OnlyFans that are doing this, but also they
04:08:44.320
They could target the agencies because the girls most of the time don't even know it because
04:08:49.460
like, so like they know there's chatters obviously, but the only, it's OnlyFans producing the message
04:08:56.860
The girls aren't like most of the time, I never said that I was speaking to you.
04:09:00.780
I just said, Hey, I make explicit content, which that's what I did.
04:09:05.480
I do think a lot of men are getting defrauded on this front, but, um, is, and is there, uh,
04:09:10.520
wait, any of the girls here have an, do you ever had OF or any kind of sex work, feet
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She has OF, but I also said that some small creators are actually doing it.
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I'm saying, don't you want to see this girl sitting next to you stop doing sex work?
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Well, like at the end of the day, it's her decision.
04:10:15.100
She can see someone like me that's moved on, and she can listen to my testimony.
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We can have a great conversation outside of this podcast about what God's done in my life
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and see if that changes what she wants to do with hers.
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But in no way, shape, or form can I force her to do that.
04:10:35.040
Would you give her like a little elbow, like, hey, frow line.
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And yeah, you can definitely cut that shit out.
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You don't need this, and you are way more worthy than this.
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Normally we save this for the end of the show, but I'll just do it now.
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Like, you can't see anything if I don't wear anything under it.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And then what happens is one side makes up a bunch of bullshit.
04:12:15.220
What I've never seen, though, is anybody ever back out of a show.
04:12:21.520
I mean, where they actually agree to do it live on a day and then fail to show up on
04:12:28.240
So I'm asking for a day for Pearl Davis versus Nala and a day for Nala and Nala's husband
04:12:42.660
I don't care if you make it three weeks from now.
04:12:43.660
I don't care if you make it three weeks from now.
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Number two, I literally am traveling for the next week and a half.
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I don't even know what day three weeks from now is.
04:13:02.040
Wait, Andrew, you're coming to Santa Barbara for December, right?
04:13:25.440
I have a podcast with this kid named Brian on the 13th,
04:13:29.280
and then we're going to do some shooting with our clothing on the 14th.
04:13:42.700
You think I'm just going to back out, but oh, my God,
04:13:48.360
She needs her phone to be able to know what her schedule is.
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Please, like, I literally don't even know what's on my phone right now,
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and you're just mad because you have your phone in front of you
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So I'm like, please make this fair in some way.
04:14:08.340
I will post a video right after this, and I'm going to be like,
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hey, listen, I'm going to pick a date with Brian.
04:14:17.140
I don't even understand this because even if she were to pick a date,
04:14:24.840
He's just mad that he thinks I'm going to back out.
04:14:31.020
Anyway, so I would love to pick a date, one, speaking to my husband,
04:14:35.140
when his schedule is freed up, too, because you invited my husband.
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I don't know what his schedule is like, either.
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I would love my husband to be involved and not, like, two against one.
04:14:49.720
Because you said Pearl against me and then you against my husband.
04:15:08.140
After I get my phone, I'll be like, listen, me and Andrew are going to be doing a debate.
04:15:14.880
And you can screen record that, post it all over the place.
04:15:19.640
I'd love to have a conversation with my husband.
04:15:25.080
How about just, you'll commit to a debate within the next three weeks?
04:15:43.080
Will you consider stopping doing OnlyFans tonight?
04:15:59.340
What if you didn't delete it, but like you kept the money that like you continuously made
04:16:23.520
If someone sent Chair One a receipt saying they spent money on her off, would she be willing
04:16:54.660
I'm in New Zealand, and I've been watching the show for a few months and love it, especially
04:17:40.100
Nala, you're lecturing to Andrew about how he should act.
04:17:43.840
Basically telling him he's practicing Christianity wrong shows an extreme lack of humility.
04:17:52.660
So, but it's okay for Andrew to make false claims and literally lie.
04:18:06.080
Dude, I slept with three guys during the five years I was on OnlyFans.
04:18:09.460
I was single for the last almost two years of my OnlyFans.
04:18:18.960
Like, I don't know the precise amount of dicks that you've had in your mouth.
04:18:22.180
It's just many more dicks than you should have in your mouth.
04:18:25.660
I literally said that I slept with 23 to 25 people.
04:18:30.220
So, how does 23 to 25 people equate to 50 dicks in my mouth?
04:18:35.340
I don't know how many people you've slept with.
04:18:40.260
Yeah, well, I don't even understand where that came from.
04:18:44.340
Well, because you're making an assumption based off of what.
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Why is this the go-to, especially for former prostitutes, to always assume that men want
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I don't want to sleep with AIDS-ridden prostitutes.
04:19:10.080
But, no, you're literally acting like I wanted to sleep with you.
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I'm literally talking to a delusional person right now.
04:19:22.400
When did I ever say I wanted to sleep with you or even assumed it?
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As though there's some type of imperative that every man wants to sleep with AIDS-ridden prostitutes.
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That men run a bunch of STD-ridden prostitutes.
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So look at you making false assumptions once again.
04:19:53.280
And then you're literally over here saying I had 50 dicks in my mouth, saying that I have AIDS, when you have no proof of any of that.
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That use of hyperbole is to demonstrate the absurdity of what somebody else is saying.
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It's supposed to deliver a point home that's generally true enough.
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Like, for instance, sex workers are filled to the brim with STDs.
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You do understand that normal people have STDs, too.
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Was there anything else that you wanted to add?
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But I think we should talk about this on our debate in about three weeks.
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So much respect for you, Nala, and the change that you've made in finding Christ again.
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04:21:50.300
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04:22:05.360
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04:22:14.820
We have the dating app, so let's do the dating app reaction here.
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Life goal of mine, being successful as an actress, next.
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I go crazy for creating content together, like porn?
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I mean, like, on TikTok, just with my gay best friend dance videos.
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None of the pictures were loving, but that's because...
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That means I don't want to waste my time again.
04:24:20.020
But like, my dad used to say it all the time when he'd get annoyed, so now I say it like
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I get embarrassed when people pay stuff for me.
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Like, I don't feel like I'm worthy sometimes for it.
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Green flags I look for spoiling me, go forward too?
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You get embarrassed when people pay for anything.
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So, like, I think it's because, like, I want somebody to do it.
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Because that's kind of in our, like, in our culture.
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Like, in my culture, it's more like the women service, like, everybody before themselves.
04:25:24.120
But I really want somebody to be, like, assertive and be like, no, I got it.
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If you have the ontology incorrect or the epistemology incorrect as to the nature of what Jesus Christ is and what his gospel is,
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then we're not worshiping the same deity or we don't have the same Christ.
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It's how you know that the Muslim God is not the Christian God.
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It's how you know that the God that modern Jews worship is not the Christian God.
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It's because you're looking at the ontology and the being of what this God is.
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And that's why the characteristics are so important.
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That's why these things are so important to dissect and discuss.
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However, 25 hot dogs makes the single hot dog trying to make you a wife you skeptical.
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I've never seen you cut off Andrew like this, not letting him engage.
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Looks like Brian's not going to let you set up any debates.
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If somebody else is talking, I gotta move things along.
04:27:36.260
We haven't even really gotten into any of the pre-show notes.
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Some people really haven't had much opportunity to speak tonight.
04:28:15.100
I'm pretty sure I allotted at least two hours to theological conversation.
04:28:31.260
The panelists probably did not anticipate that this would be such a theologically heavy conversation.
04:28:39.980
There's atheists here at the table who probably don't give a fuck.
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I'm happy to assist with facilitating Andrew and Nala having a debate where they can get into all this stuff.
04:28:57.100
And when it comes to the scheduling stuff, I think that that typically can be handled off-camera.
04:29:07.340
So, I mean, I get a lot of criticism for the way I conduct the panels.
04:29:16.660
There's not a handbook on how to do a live dating discussion panel, often with people who are not media trained,
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who it's their first time ever being on camera, who have ever spoken into a microphone.
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I moderate as best as I can, and I try to give as much room as I can.
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I'm pretty confident if you tallied up the total amount of conversation that was dedicated to strictly theology,
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It's like, damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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You can't please everyone, like, no matter what you do.
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So if he feels that it's something that he wants to do,
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this is something that my husband does sometimes.
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He doesn't have to ask me to spend his money, money that he earned.
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So he's going to ultimately decide on that, right?
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Basically everything she said I've aggrieved on.
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The only thing I would disagree is that going on a vacation to Honolulu,
05:21:31.800
with our whole family saving, I just don't see that.
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I don't understand, like, okay, you say that you trust him,
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but how can he plan to get back the money that we have spent years cultivating?
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Well, that's, again, like, it's so, again, in my situation,
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First of all, again, I trust my husband because I trust that he would not put us in a financial situation
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I'm assuming that he's not taking out a second mortgage on our home to take us to Hawaii.
05:22:13.320
And what if, well, let me ask you this real quick.
05:22:16.340
What if, and the only reason I don't mean to cut you off,
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but I know we have time constraints because Brian wants to move it on.
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What if, can we, I mean, can we all agree on this,
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that while women will often say, well, I just want an explanation of what's going on,
05:22:33.280
What's going on is they want a justification that they can argue against,
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and sometimes a 15-minute justification will turn into a five-day-long drag-out fight
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And that this is very common with couples, happens all the time,
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even including with Christian couples, non-Christian couples,
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that women will often say, I just want a quick justification,
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which can be easily avoided with the idea of what she's talking about,
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I have to have faith that you're leading me correctly,
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Right, which is kind of what I think he's been trying to point out to you.
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It's not that, you know, I don't think that he's trying to attack you at all,
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just to point out kind of the flaws and the logic there.
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You know, it's like you can't say that you want to submit,
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Like, there are going to be situations where there is no explanation needed.
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Trust the man that if he's following the Christian,
05:23:35.460
the Christian, if he's following Christian ethics,
05:23:39.220
that he is going to lead your family down a path that's not going to destroy you,
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especially when it comes to something as simple as, you know,
05:23:48.460
And honestly, Andrew, if you had explained it in a gentle tone like she had,
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No, but anyway, no, but what I wanted to say was that.
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Does only one of us need to come to a conversation humble?
05:24:14.920
Does only one of us need to come to a conversation humble?
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Or do both of us need to come to a conversation humble?
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I think both of us have to come to a conversation humble.
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Where was the humility on your side as you demand the humility on mine?
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Because you had no humility for me, and I tried.
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It was my fault, because if I had delivered it in a way that you had preferred,
05:24:51.680
then it would have been okay, because you're the leader, right?
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If I had done what you wanted, everything would have been okay.
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I want you to say, you're right, Andrew, because you have flawless logic,
05:25:22.760
When you argue with someone, you just want them to agree with you,
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but she's just asking for you to speak in a different tone
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Great, I want her to speak in a different tone, too.
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On TBH, she's holding up solidly for a 19-year-old.
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Tone matters if you want to actually convince someone.
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It makes a person more likely to be open-minded and listen to you versus be defensive.
05:25:45.740
See, the thing is, Andrew, the truth is that when I speak and get to an argument with somebody,
05:25:56.940
And if they can't defend their position properly, they end up in a logical trap
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This, in turn, for the thousands of people viewing it, go,
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oh, shit, I'm not going to ever be in that position and do that dumbass thing ever.
05:26:12.940
So, yeah, I agree that tone matters and that what you should do is always take,
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in a debate, a tone, which is a debate tone because you're having a debate.
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She's just trying to have a conversation based on the little knowledge that she actually has.
05:26:34.120
I'd say more of like a heated discussion based off of two different viewpoints.
05:26:39.180
A heated discussion based off of two different viewpoints.
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We had two different viewpoints, and we entered into a heated discussion.
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Would you say that, like, you encouraged the heatedness and didn't come with humility
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I said, okay, I'm not intelligent enough for this conversation right here, but I'm trying
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He said, you're only 19, and I'm 40, and so therefore you don't have as much experience
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And I said, so you're saying you're too stupid to have this?
05:27:31.100
Are you saying you're too stupid to have this conversation?
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I said, okay, well, then I'm not going to have the conversation anymore, if that's what
05:27:42.260
No, you said you're too stupid to have this conversation with.
05:27:53.820
But that doesn't take away from the fact that I still wanted to have the conversation,
05:27:57.940
and you couldn't get off the idea that I considered myself stupid.
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I still wanted to have the conversation, despite knowing that this is not something
05:28:08.200
You would stop me every time I interrupted you, so please stop when you interrupt me.
05:28:13.080
So the problem I have is that I have an idea of submission that I cultivated throughout
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my life, throughout looks of my parents, throughout church, throughout classes and religious studies.
05:28:27.400
This is my idea of submission that I cultivated, and that I'm going to spend more time in my
05:28:34.520
And you have your idea of submission that you are trying to force onto me.
05:28:39.020
And you may convince me, but in this instance right now, you have not convinced me.
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I'm here to convince thousands of people who watch later.
05:28:50.780
Also, on top of that, just so that you understand, I want you to think, again, not just from
05:28:57.600
A person, I ask a person, are you saying that you're not intelligent enough, or you're too
05:29:04.340
Why would I continue to have converse with them?
05:29:07.800
Why would you talk to somebody who literally tells you they're not smart enough to talk
05:29:34.640
Despite what differences we may have right now, I'm very glad we had the conversation.
05:29:39.140
I'm very glad you told me a little bit about your own.
05:29:42.140
Because, you know, I'm telling you, everybody says, like, so many people have done things
05:30:10.880
While I would side with Andrew, Justy wins some points for knowing she's at a disadvantage.
05:30:16.200
Standing her ground, not getting intimidated, and not storming off in tears.
05:30:37.620
Andrew has sent some of the most cold-hearted feminists into the abyss.
05:30:44.440
So, uh, good for you for having the back and forth with him.
05:30:49.240
Husband wants to vacation with his wife while they are young and alive.
05:30:53.160
Maybe because he secretly needs to tell her he has cancer and is dying.
05:31:03.880
Lull Paladins, I do appreciate your message there.
05:31:07.620
Uh, I did want to, uh, play one video because it's related to being submissive.
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Uh, we'll do the bow video if you can pull that up real quick.
05:31:23.580
I filmed this, uh, like a couple months ago or something.
05:31:30.460
So, I have an expectation that my girlfriend bows to me when I get home from the podcast.
05:31:35.960
This was after a long day of shooting, you know, getting the laundry all done.
05:32:06.020
Would you bow to your boyfriend's slash husband slash first date?
05:32:12.600
Because, like, I love Japanese culture and that is a big part of Japanese culture.
05:32:41.600
Yes, but, like, it would have to be, like, the intention behind it wouldn't be,
05:33:22.300
Wait, can, what other Japanese things can you do, Nala?
05:33:47.540
I'd say no, because it's not part of my culture, but I'd probably hug him,
05:33:53.160
Uh, what if, okay, it's not part of your culture, but it's part of his.
05:34:00.520
Then I probably would disrespect him and his culture.
05:34:21.740
Just, like, being, this is like being a slave to your husband.
05:34:32.160
Because he's maybe not experienced doing laundry, but, like, we are a team.
05:34:36.780
Like, I don't, I'm not, like, I will not submit to a man.
05:34:57.140
So, you wouldn't do it for, like, the most handsome, billionaire, treats you perfectly.
05:35:32.520
Bowing means, in Japanese culture, a completely different thing.
05:35:38.660
In Japan, and I bowed in front of people, just out of respect, just out of coming into
05:35:44.180
a household of them, they serving me food, I'm like, thank you.
05:36:16.760
So, I don't think it's any different than like bowing to him.
05:36:25.660
So, you wouldn't do it for the near perfect guy?
05:36:49.380
I'm fairly confident you would do far more than just that.
05:36:52.320
But like, for example, how long do you typically like to wait before having sex?
05:37:07.960
Earlier in the conversation, you said that you fucked like three dudes in one day or something.
05:37:14.820
That was like a phase where I just came here to this country, freshly new student, everyone
05:37:25.180
So just to be clear, this gets into another topic that comes up frequently, this whole
05:37:34.300
like, well, you used to move one way in the past, you had no qualms with having sex fairly
05:37:39.860
quickly, but now you're going to make a guy wait seven dates to have sex.
05:37:46.560
I think that's a raw deal for the man in any case.
05:38:13.700
Look, I'm not German, but if my girlfriend asked me to goose step.
05:39:05.420
So are you going to go back to Germany at any point?
05:39:11.280
I wonder if this would be worse if it was an American guy playing this.
05:40:12.820
The soldiers sang when they were, like, marching.
05:40:30.580
People on Saturn be like, what are they listening to?
05:40:34.300
They're singing about a little flower that's blooming in a wall.
05:40:54.480
Wait, worse if an American, worse for a German guy to put that on?
05:41:15.640
What's crazy to me is like, okay, you do OF, right?
05:41:19.720
It's like, I mean, like a girl will, she'll refuse to do the bow, but she'll like S a dude's D on the first date, you know?
05:41:54.380
Wait, do you, you're going to school right now, right?
05:42:03.420
And as part of this role as an actress, it required you to do a bow.
05:42:09.040
And it was like, if you were getting paid, you would do it?
05:42:17.480
Well, no, even your husband or boyfriend wanting it doesn't mean it's sexual.
05:42:24.180
But I guess where my confusion lies when it comes to submissiveness, and this perhaps
05:42:30.060
So you kind of object to this whole being submissive to your husband thing, but you'll readily be
05:42:43.460
But let's say this husband of yours, he's prepared to financially provide for you.
05:42:50.760
You never have to work another day in your life.
05:42:52.600
I would argue he's going to ask far less of you, and he'll be much more respectful of you than your employer will be.
05:43:05.000
be here at this time, wear this, do this job, sit here.
05:43:11.220
You've all traded being submissive to a husband to being submissive to your employer.
05:43:21.280
But if you were your own boss, then you're just submissive to yourself.
05:43:27.840
But most, I'm sure you'd agree, most people, man or woman, they're going to work.
05:43:33.060
And even people who are self-employed or beholden to someone in some way, one way or the other.
05:43:45.860
Well, like even if someone drops something, they're like, hey, can you pick that up?
05:43:50.760
Well, that's a bit different from what I'm getting at here.
05:43:54.100
But your employer is going to have very strict, okay, arrive at this time.
05:44:02.340
But if your husband is like telling you a couple things, like y'all won't listen.
05:44:16.860
The greater, moderate, I'd say most modern women.
05:44:21.620
Most modern women don't want to listen to their husbands.
05:44:29.360
Yeah, so for you, I don't know what the case is with the dynamics with you and your husband.
05:44:34.060
But a lot of women don't want to be submissive.
05:44:39.360
Do you think it's because men aren't like living up to their roles now as men?
05:44:42.860
Look, I think women also aren't living up to their roles as women either.
05:44:48.260
I think women are constantly fighting against the role that we're supposed to have.
05:44:55.880
Women are constantly being pushed away from that role.
05:44:58.760
We're told you're not successful unless you pursue a career, unless you put all of your
05:45:04.440
effort into that, unless you're with a ton of guys.
05:45:08.160
We're fed this lie that this is what we're supposed to do.
05:45:10.900
This is the path that we're supposed to go down.
05:45:12.200
This is what's going to make you happy, when the truth is, it's like, no, what would really
05:45:16.920
make women happy is the role that we have been given, the blessing that we've been given
05:45:21.700
by creating life, being mothers, being, you know, that's what we're supposed to do.
05:45:30.360
I think nowadays, I think hookup culture has taken over.
05:45:35.380
And I think traditional, like women who want traditional families, like traditional lives
05:45:43.940
I think it's more, I think it's very, very normal for a woman to want to have more, more
05:45:54.100
Or they want, or they want, they want, they want, they want to lead the men.
05:45:59.420
I don't even, I mean, I don't even know if that's true though.
05:46:02.100
It's like, you're still attracted to men who are masculine and dominant and leaders,
05:46:06.720
but the feminist mind virus says, don't follow.
05:46:16.840
But only when I want, but also when I want to have.
05:46:23.820
Like going back to this, the same girl who's going to work like a brutal fast food job,
05:46:31.580
She's going to be cleaning dirty dishes, maybe cleaning the bathroom, dealing with fuck
05:46:35.820
entitled shitty customers for like $15 an hour, $20 an hour.
05:46:40.360
But like, if a guy were to come into the picture, who's got the money to support her, support
05:46:47.040
a family, and even make sure she never has to work another day in her life.
05:46:56.480
But you'll do all that shit under the corporation.
05:47:02.360
I don't know who, I actually don't personally know one woman that is actually saying that
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she doesn't want to do any of that for her husband.
05:47:12.280
TikTok, I actually see a lot of women begging to be one of those women.
05:47:16.840
And it's like, because they want to get back to the older culture and they don't want,
05:47:20.780
they don't approve of what's going on with women nowadays, or they don't approve of how
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And I completely agree, women are completely acting like they own everything.
05:47:33.620
Like, women are the top, like the money makers.
05:47:43.360
Like, these billionaire women who have unrealistic everything.
05:47:47.140
Like, even down to their physical bodies is unrealistic.
05:47:53.800
Like, for example, Kim Kardashian, they're also still like, I'm oppressed.
05:47:57.180
And it's the system somehow still rigged against me.
05:48:00.100
And, you know, I still can't do anything, everything that, you know, men are supposed
05:48:05.840
But like, that influence is teaching women in our generation.
05:48:09.760
And then it's like, these younger moms that we have now that grew up in a generation is
05:48:22.700
Well, and then there's all this different advice on how to raise kids.
05:48:26.820
So everyone's raising their kids differently now.
05:48:38.780
Because my sister doesn't believe in telling her kid no.
05:48:45.900
And she's literally like, oh, okay, well, just redirect the way you say no.
05:48:51.680
It's not like, maybe can you kindly not do that?
05:48:54.600
No, it's like, no, don't do this because I'm the parent and I told you not to do something.
05:48:58.300
Would you please not stick that fork in that light?
05:49:00.480
Guys, please do not put your hand up on the stove.
05:49:04.860
Because you're afraid of like this negative effect it's going to have on their brains.
05:49:13.860
I think like now these days, like gentle parenting is taking so out of context.
05:49:20.840
But people take it so far that there needs to be reprimanded.
05:49:26.840
There's a time where you have to be stern and be like, no is no.
05:49:29.620
Because there's a time, you know, my daughter, she's only one and a half.
05:49:37.140
How did we get to, I'm sorry, how did we get to this?
05:49:48.600
Really quick, just going back to the vow thing really quick.
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Then we have a couple chats I got to get through and then the rest of the notes.
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So honestly, well, Nala, you said that you see all these women on TikTok who they want to go back.
05:49:59.620
You want to go back to this idea of traditional womanhood and you want to go back to being trad women and this type of thing.
05:50:05.720
But the thing is, is that I think most of these women are chameleons.
05:50:09.720
And that when you press them on what they believe traditionalism actually is and what they think submission actually is and this type of thing,
05:50:17.640
they really want an equal relationship or some type of egalitarian relationship.
05:50:22.780
And I think that men categorically reject that more and more.
05:50:26.040
They don't want to have an equally yoked relationship.
05:50:28.900
It's not an interest to men to be equally yoked with women in that way.
05:50:33.960
I think that when you say equally yoked, that this term is applying to the ontology of men and women and egalitarianism is not what that means.
05:50:42.960
Wait, are you talking about like equally yoked as in religion?
05:50:46.220
Like you believe the same thing or just equally yoked as like you are equal in being human?
05:50:50.900
Well, men and women, you would agree with me, right?
05:50:55.640
What is a man and what is a woman is different.
05:50:58.080
So ontology being the philosophy of being, right?
05:51:01.480
What is the being of a man is not the same as the being of a woman.
05:51:07.480
So saying that we're equally yoked is not saying we're equal.
05:51:10.700
It's saying that there is a process, an ontological process of us being super compatible with each other.
05:51:17.200
This is true if each of us is taking on the role we're supposed to be taking on, which is part of who we are as our being.
05:51:25.440
But what ends up happening, at least what I see, is that many women claim that they want that role.
05:51:32.600
And then the second they're pushed in this role or they're in the role and get pushed back in it, they become ultra, super, ultra feminist immediately.
05:51:44.260
They will, if there's a divorce going on, they go from trad to feminist real quick.
05:51:50.980
I can give you example after example after example of women who do this.
05:51:57.520
I think that men generally, they just don't believe them.
05:52:02.520
They just don't think that they're actually telling the truth, that they're looking for any sort of traditional anything.
05:52:07.960
Because when pushed on these actual topics, it becomes more about me, the woman, than it becomes about the submissive role of the woman.
05:52:21.620
I don't actually have any specific testimonies to this because I really don't know these people personally.
05:52:28.060
I've just seen that this is what they're pushing out on social media.
05:52:31.160
So I really have no idea and I've never pushed them on their views.
05:52:33.860
However, I do feel like women are pushed into this role now because of what's going on on social media and they see, I think that a lot of people see these generational issues and want to be so far from it that they want to be back to the basics.
05:52:54.900
Like they see all of these issues being pushed out daily.
05:52:58.200
Like everyone has an issue with something or someone about some different type of opinion and some of us just want to get back to the basics of what being a wife is, about being a homemaker, you know, being that nurturing wife for your husband.
05:53:12.840
But again, I've never pushed these topics on any woman.
05:53:15.660
I don't think being a wife has anything to do with being a homemaker, though.
05:53:20.000
I think that in most situations, we would consider the nuclear family needs a homemaker for sure.
05:53:29.000
No, I think that a good wife only has to do with one thing.
05:53:32.940
And the idea of a good wife is the idea of submission.
05:53:36.580
And that that is the number one thing which makes a wife a good wife is a submitted wife.
05:53:54.100
But you said that's the only role for a woman is for her to submit.
05:54:04.940
I said a homemaker, right, whatever you think a homemaker is, is tangential to submission.
05:54:11.220
Because if you have a homemaker who's not submitted, then who gives a shit?
05:54:15.440
But I do think a woman should submit to her husband.
05:54:18.620
All other things, past submission, mean nothing without the submission portion.
05:54:23.760
And the second you say a slave, right, you show exactly why men don't trust these TikTok
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Because when pushed on what submission is, you equate it instantly to slavery.
05:54:39.460
You really think that you should never bring up a topic to your wife because ultimately
05:54:49.220
Your wife is there to listen to you when you want her to listen to you.
05:54:53.220
And that she can have no equal say in any type of issue.
05:54:59.740
But it's because don't, doesn't, don't, do you feel in any way that your wife brings
05:55:02.800
anything to your, do you feel like you're, you can keep interrupting me or treat me like
05:55:16.960
But it's also different because biblically, I mean, have you ever heard of like the man is
05:55:31.820
For me, I've just heard that the man is the head and the woman is the neck.
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Biblical marriage is the man reflects the head of the church, Christ.
05:55:51.500
Paul says, wives, submit to your husbands as you would unto the Lord.
05:56:00.320
So, so the thing is, is that when you say submission is slavery, you'd be saying the
05:56:07.660
But doesn't Paul refer himself to as a slave of Jesus Christ?
05:56:14.500
Paul refers himself to a servant as a servant of Christ.
05:56:25.340
Because, because then you end up with this logical contradiction again, the circle.
05:56:31.060
The man is the head and the man's decision must be adhered to and he must trust him to
05:56:37.620
If you move to point two where you say, but I must contradict the man, even though he's
05:56:41.500
doing nothing moral or anything which comports against the reason of Christian ethics, then
05:56:47.080
you move back to, I have no recourse but to listen to the man.
05:56:50.480
So anytime you ask for the justification for the reasoning, right?
05:56:54.100
Anytime he gives you that, that's him being extremely kind to you, not a necessity that
05:57:03.640
But do you not think that the wife has her own walk with Christ and that it's not the
05:57:12.580
Your walk with Christ is very different from your husband's walk with Christ.
05:57:20.260
You absolutely are, but you still have a different walk with Christ than your husband.
05:57:27.020
So you, so like, look, for instance, okay, your husband goes to you and he says, this church
05:57:32.960
that we're going to, we're not going here anymore.
05:57:47.200
I need to have a different conversation with my husband asking him why he doesn't feel this
05:57:52.820
I need to see why biblically he doesn't think that this church is good for us.
05:58:01.860
No, I'm asking questions based on, I am questioning his, I'm not questioning his authority.
05:58:09.020
He answers your questions, but hypothetically, you disagree.
05:58:14.760
I'm just asking, I'm asking why he thinks this.
05:58:23.520
You, so you, you talk to him, you're asking why he gives you his reasoning and you don't
05:58:32.800
You don't agree with why he wants to leave this church.
05:58:37.140
So for me, I feel like no matter what, I'm here to serve the Lord, no matter what my husband
05:58:43.240
So if we decide to go to another church, we go to another church under my husband's direction.
05:58:49.920
He's saying, I'm, we are going to a different church and you disagree.
05:58:54.280
So if I go to the, I go to the new church that he would like me to go to, but in the
05:58:58.040
meantime, but in the meantime, please let me finish.
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If you don't want to be interrupted, I definitely don't want to be interrupted.
05:59:06.000
I'm trying to back it up with what I actually think.
05:59:08.660
So if he wants to go to a different church, that's fine.
05:59:11.440
But in the meantime, I can sit and pray and ask God, Hey, listen, God, I think this was the
05:59:15.120
wrong decision, but I am here to serve my husband.
05:59:21.960
So God can literally come down and change his heart.
05:59:24.200
If, if what we're doing is wrong biblically, but again, yes, it is my role to submit to
05:59:31.260
So, so then if he gives you zero justification, right?
05:59:36.080
So he says, we're just leaving the church and I don't want to give you a reason as to
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Are you still going to leave the church with him?
05:59:44.200
Well then the justification part is simply a preference and not a requirement because ultimately
05:59:50.440
what you're saying there, Mrs. Andrew loves slaving women is that regardless of if he
05:59:56.920
justifies or not, you're going to fucking do it anyway.
05:59:59.800
So if that is the case, then can you tell me why it is it's a requirement for him to create
06:00:09.440
I never said it was a requirement for him to tell me why he was going to do something.
06:00:12.400
I just said, I just said, all I said was I would ask his opinion on it.
06:00:18.100
I never said it was his requirement to tell me me asking a question is not a requirement.
06:00:23.420
He can, he can completely ignore me if he wanted to.
06:00:30.380
No, because are we referring to the video of this girl bowing and serving her husband
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How is my view of submission slavery if you literally agreed with my view of submission?
06:00:47.060
Well, because the way you go about it is saying like, so no matter what, I'm going to make
06:00:58.520
But you don't think that she could bring anything spiritual to the relationship because
06:01:10.400
So if it's ultimately his decision, you agree it's ultimately his decision.
06:01:13.040
You're going to comply with it whether he justifies it or not.
06:01:18.820
Then how in the world could you then say that's because Andrew, you want a slave?
06:01:24.920
Well, just the way you speak about your wife is quite difficult for me to understand.
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I think we're pretty close to being ready to have him come.
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A traditional wife where the wife tells the husband what he can and can't spend their money on based on what she thinks is reasonable.
06:02:16.720
Lolpaladin, it's good to see you in the chat, man.
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Wait, was this directed at the girl who got up?
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Wait, Andrew, did you want to get Rachel or was that?
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I mean, you think that – I think that my version of submission is – well, I would say even compared to the traditional church is actually quite progressive in comparison to what my wife thinks.
06:02:59.320
But you guys will learn better here in a few minutes.
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And the thing is, is like, you guys are all about to find out differently.
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Well, I'm just so curious as to who married you, bro.
06:03:13.580
Well, I'd be so curious as to who married a former prostitute.
06:03:20.780
Look, it might be a good idea not to – you know, look, Andrew's going to match your energy.
06:03:31.340
If you're going to be nasty towards Andrew, he's going to be nasty back.
06:04:15.740
Nala, can you put your mic to the edge of the table?
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Look, we are taking back the colored hair people.
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Some, because you guys were really questioning my seven sons, okay?
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Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in a man's youth.
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No, it doesn't mean seven and it doesn't mean sons.
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You need your sons to, for the warrior component.
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What do you pull a 19 kids and counting just to get enough boys?
06:08:15.240
But what do you pull that if you had to get sons?
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Oh, we keep going until I get one son at least.
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Okay, so 20 kids and counting is this new show.
06:08:35.740
Yeah, I mean, I would want to, I want to keep going.
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I mean, if we already have like seven daughters, like, I'll be happy with one son, but I'd
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So if that means four daughters and we got to get to two sons, yeah, we like, yeah.
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I mean, there's more than one way to get a son, I guess.
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All of human history, society has been patrilineal.
06:09:08.520
And even in modernity, it's from father to son.
06:09:11.440
Now, you can, I mean, you can coke laugh now, like you've been doing most of the evening,
06:09:31.160
And still, even now, the woman is supposed to take the husband's name, whether they do
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So, of course, men want to have sons because sons carry their names.
06:09:49.800
But somebody wanting to have multiple sons, especially men, I totally understand it because
06:09:57.340
Also, you know how there's different translations of the Bible?
06:10:00.940
So some of them just say children, but I'm also seeing some here that it actually specifically
06:10:08.740
So sons born during one's youth are like arrows in a warrior's hand.
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How joyful is the man whose quiver is full of them?
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Standard Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, Good News Translation, Literal Standard
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Version, New American Bible, NET Bible, New Revised Standard, Young's Literal Translation.
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Would you accept it if your daughters had sons?
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Hopefully it's three in case one of them's a fuck up.
06:11:16.780
Hopefully it's like four in case the other two are fuck up.
06:11:28.160
Like one of them dies from dysentery or some shit.
06:11:45.140
What happens if she runs out of eggs and she can't?
06:11:50.780
Or are you going to ask for an embryo transplant?
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It's like another embryo basically from another woman.
06:12:17.740
Andrew's going to convert me to orthodox Christianity.
06:12:28.680
Become a non-denominational Christian who believes that Jesus isn't divine.
06:12:34.720
It doesn't matter and that submission means something else than that.
06:12:38.240
All I believe in is a relationship with Christ.
06:12:51.200
They've been censoring and criticizing me severely.
06:13:17.200
Oh, Rachel, we were just talking about how Andrew's...
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He's getting me close to Orthodox Christianity, and Nala over here is like, oh, no, don't
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First off, put a little respect on Orthodox Christianity, because rude, one, two...
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How can you put respect on it when you don't even believe in it?
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Orthodox Christianity, in my view, it's like the most based.
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You're not doing the spiritual but not religious routine, are you?
06:14:24.720
Did God create a religion or did he create disciples to go spread the word of God?
06:14:29.540
Okay, well, if you read the Bible, Christ says,
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I have come to establish my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
06:14:37.460
He didn't say, I came to leave you this Bible and you can just read it and the Holy Spirit
06:14:42.780
will tell you whatever you want to hear and you just do your own thing, girl.
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In fact, you wouldn't have a Bible if it wasn't for the Orthodox Church.
06:14:53.480
Do you know anything about how the biblical canon was for it?
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So for me, because again, I do not believe in having a religion.
06:15:02.060
I really don't believe in having a religion to get to heaven.
06:15:05.840
I believe in having a relationship and thinking, and not even thinking,
06:15:08.900
but knowing that Christ died on the cross for my sins
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and then continue to live out my life spreading the word of God.
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Does Jesus say that you have to eat his body and drink his blood to be saved?
06:15:26.560
Does he command us to receive communion with him
06:15:30.140
through the drinking of his blood and the eating of his body in the Bible?
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Not to be saved, but it's not a requirement to be saved to have communion,
06:15:40.960
but it's something you should do as a Christian.
06:15:44.880
What do you think you're participating in when you're doing that?
06:15:52.720
What is it that you're participating in when you take part in the Eucharist
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I think having a deeper relationship with Christ
06:16:02.300
and understanding that, again, the bread represents his body
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that you are taking and receiving into yourself,
06:16:08.700
and then the blood, which isn't blood, but like grape juice or something.
06:16:15.880
I just feel like it's, again, communion with the Holy Spirit,
06:16:24.460
The problem here is that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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You don't know anything about the history of Christianity,
06:16:40.880
You don't know who you're having a relationship with.
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You don't think I know who I have a relationship with?
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You don't know who the person of Jesus Christ is,
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How did a Christian in the year 300 know Christ?
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No, I really think that it was the Holy Spirit that came down,
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you just think that the Holy Spirit just comes down and does what?
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in the Bible it says that there's a part in us that knows who Christ is.
06:17:37.500
that there's a piece in us that knows who Christ is.
06:17:42.900
but God can reveal himself in so many different ways to a person,
06:17:46.060
in dreams, through a different person, through visions,
06:17:54.760
the problem with this is you're doing like this,
06:18:03.100
and we kind of put it together like a little Mr. Potato Head,
06:18:11.860
But you don't even know what I do in my practice
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You're telling me that what all I do is read the Bible
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Well, you have no idea what my spiritual walk looks like.
06:18:25.040
You think that the Eucharist is just like thinking about Jesus and the Holy Spirit
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while you eat some crackers and have some grape juice,
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Communion between the Holy Spirit, Jesus, and God is an actual relationship.
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You said it's not his real blood, and it's not his real body,
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and you know that neither Roman Catholics nor Orthodox.
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She doesn't believe in the real presence of the Eucharist.
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She thinks it's just bread and grape juice, bro.
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Oh, it doesn't take New Age anything to believe in Christ.
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She found self-help Jesus, and she made her own Mr. Potato Head Jesus that she follows.
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I'm telling you that Christianity has specific criteria for who is a Christian.
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I just want you on record saying Christianity is not a real religion.
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I'm sorry, but we have people on the table shaking their heads no that I didn't say that.
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You're saying that what I'm doing is wrong and that I'm not a Christian?
06:20:21.360
But would you agree that Muslims, is that a religion?
06:20:29.540
But like there's, okay, so Christianity is its own religion, but there's so many religions within just Christianity.
06:20:35.320
Like Orthodox people call themselves Christians.
06:20:44.600
Any religion that follows Christ is under the umbrella of Christianity.
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I'm going to be talking way over her head to explain things to her.
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How does reading church history make you saved?
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You cannot come on here and start telling people what Christianity is when you have no freaking clue what it is yourself.
06:21:20.460
You quit OF and started a ministry and now you're out here teaching people.
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Then why are you on here correcting people about theology?
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You're mad at me for correcting your husband who's calling me names and saying I'm not a Christian?
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Don't be a Christian when you deny the tenets of Christianity.
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So basically for Catholics, there's something called transubstantiation where when we go back and do, like, what's called, like, the Holy Thursday where they said, like, this is my body and I give it up to you.
06:22:08.020
So basically at that point, like, there has been cases where the, like, bread that they give us turns into actual flesh and the blood turns into actual blood, which it happened, I think, in Argentina.
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It happened in different places and then they put it in, like, a specific thing and they do something called adoration.
06:22:33.620
She never explained that, number one, but, like, for me, it's, like, communion means something different for everyone, but communion means relationship.
06:22:45.860
You are literally becoming, like, one with them.
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Why are you telling me this when you don't have any clue what, you don't know what communion is from a Christian perspective?
06:22:55.120
So my thing is, is, like, why are you getting upset that I don't know church history when I literally just became a Christian?
06:23:09.620
I can't believe you woke up, Rachel, to argue theology.
06:23:16.260
What we really need from you is to tell these 304s what submission is.
06:23:20.980
Okay, yeah, let's talk about, I don't know about submission.
06:23:22.900
Let's hear it, let's hear it, Rachel, what submission.
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Sure, I just want to, I want to understand how you guys think that the word submission means, I will allow you to lead with my express approval, which I may revoke at any time.
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Please explain to me how that in any way could possibly be the meaning of submission.
06:23:47.500
You're like, you can lead if you can convince me, right?
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If I can be convinced that you are making a good decision, then I will allow you, I will get my little rubber stamp out and I will stamp my approval and say, you may lead on this issue because you have convinced me and I am satisfied with your explanation.
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But, if I change my mind tomorrow, this gets revoked.
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We're not doing it and you're going to once again have to litigate your case to me for why we should do what you want.
06:24:19.380
Wait, Justy, you have, Justy, you and Andrew are having the back and forth there.
06:24:23.440
I feel like, Justy, you and Rachel should have that back and forth.
06:24:29.060
I'm actually kind of scared, I'm more scared of her than her.
06:24:47.080
You know, honestly, I've done some thinking, you know, in my silent moments after our little, I guess, debate.
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And honestly, I've taken a lot into what you said in consideration.
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You know, I think maybe I had, I felt maybe a little hostility, so I was trying to, like, argue back and forth.
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But honestly, I think I'm, I may be tiny bit convinced a little bit about, like, your guys' view on submission.
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I agree 100% because I still need to do a lot of thinking on my own.
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I will, I am going to take your guys' view into consideration and, you know, really think about what submission means to me.
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And, you know, I'm not, I'm going to, I'm going to do something on my own.
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I don't want to submit to just these, like, theories, or, like, not theories, these definitions that are being told to me in one night.
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Like, I'm going to spend some time, you know, thinking about it.
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You know, I might even talk to my parents about it.
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You know, my dad's an elder at our church, and I trust his word more than anything, more than any professor.
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There's a lot of things I talk to my parents about just to, like, you know, is this what I'm, like, just not even is this what I should believe,
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but it's, like, is this, like, what you guys would teach me?
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Yeah, so I take everything you guys are saying, like, like, what you just explained to us right there.
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And I took what Andrew said into consideration.
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And I think I'm just going to take some time to, you know, process and think about it.
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And I don't want to, I don't want to go into another debate, because I know that I'm not going to win that debate.
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In you guys' defense real quick, every single one of you, and myself included,
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anybody who's, like, under the age of 75, you've been programmed your whole life with feminist presuppositions about the world and how it works
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and what to think about relationships and marriage.
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And it takes questioning the programming and thinking stuff through to figure it out.
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Because you're like, wait, have I had, like, a wrong idea about this this whole time?
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And it's what I've always seen in the culture and in the pop culture.
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And it's what I was raised with for a lot of people.
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So don't feel too bad about going, oh, shit, I guess I've never really thought this through.
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I'm just working off of assumptions and propaganda that I've been told.
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So, I mean, especially if you're being really young like you guys, don't feel too bad about having to, like, stop and think stuff through
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and consider that maybe Andrew's not the meanest, craziest man on the internet.
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He might be doing his job, which is to, like, poke at your programming and try to untangle it.
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And that can feel shitty sometimes, to be honest.
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I think also it's just that there's this, like, as you said, there's this really broad version of what feminism is.
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And I think according to that broad version, I don't think a lot of us would consider ourselves feminism,
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We never consider, like, you know, the small itty-bitty nitty-gritties of what, like, of feminism.
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Like, I've considered it because it's biblical and I read it in the Bible.
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But I've never, like, considered, like, oh, what would I do in this situation?
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So, it's a lot of things that are kind of being uncovered in this podcast, really, that I never would have even considered outside of this.
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I'm, like, social media really shows us this, like, small little group of what feminism really is.
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So, honestly, like, getting different points of view, getting people from different, you know, denominations.
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Like, I'm hearing so many different, like, information.
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Well, here's a really good example of programming.
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When you guys hear the word submit, your brain doesn't hear the word submit.
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And that's what I used to associate it with when I was younger, as well.
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So, do you guys think, because this is why everybody always wants to drag me down here, right?
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They're like, I can't believe that his wife would go along with him saying this awful stuff.
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And then I come down and say, okay, look, if Andrew says, honey, I know I've got this really good, secure job where I'm making $200,000 a year.
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It's way, like, over your head of, like, it's got stuff, things to do with stuff you have no idea about.
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And I really just don't want to, like, explain a bunch of stuff to you that's completely over your head and confuse you with stuff that you know nothing about and care nothing about.
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I know it's a little risky, but I'm taking this leap of faith.
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Now, the wife is going to immediately go to, like, oh, but what if we don't have health insurance and what if we don't have this and what if it doesn't work out and do you have a backup plan and how do I know this is going to work and what if it means that our income goes down for a while.
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The woman's, like, natural thing is going to be to come up with every objection possible.
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And sometimes, in order for men to get things done, they have to be like, look, you just got to trust me on this.
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I don't have, like, days to convince you and months to calm all your fears and your worries and, like, I, you know, I really can't go through all that.
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Sometimes men have to do that because otherwise life becomes nothing but nonstop.
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Like, the husband feels like he has to sell the wife on every single decision and she's got to be convinced of every angle.
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And if she's not sure, she's going to constantly pester him and go, I don't know about it.
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And I've been thinking, you know, sometimes men just have to be, look, this is what we're doing.
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And if you really are worried that you married a guy who you can't trust, at least to that degree, you shouldn't marry him.
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But what you'll find if you've been married a long time like I have is the trust grows.
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And then your husband and husbands make mistakes and they have to grow as people, too.
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They don't get everything right in the beginning.
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They have to figure out through making mistakes what works and what doesn't, too.
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So you have to have a lot of grace in the beginning, first five, ten years of your marriage.
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If your husband makes decisions, he has a great plan and it doesn't work out, you can't forever hold that over his head and be like, remember the last time that you told me and it didn't work out?
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When he does that mocking voice, you guys do the same mocking voice?
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But I'm just saying, like, this is why I was just trying to briefly kind of explain from the man's perspective why they don't want to endlessly litigate every decision.
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And they need to be efficient and on top of things and they have to get good at making decisions and not second-guessing themselves.
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I was just like, oh, man, we can't handle any more of these bassed.
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I think we need some, like, the man stubs or something like that.
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I don't know if you're watching the show earlier.
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We have a perfect 10 out of 10 here at the table, Rachel,
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And the natural thing to do out of embarrassment
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you're probably passing up a lot of great dudes
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I think just, like, not being devil's advocate,
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So you guys, thank you so much for coming in tonight and being here eight hours of our lives.
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While I get through the notes, get those supers pulled up.
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How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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I'm sure if you guys want, last call on the, if you want, we'll still do the $30 TTS after
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And she's an Instagram influencer, 20K followers.
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She flew in for a weekend and complained about meeting me and how she was taking time out
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We were going to go together and he bought the ticket off with him.
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It was very chaotic whenever I sent you because it was very late at night.
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That was like my first date ever in high school.
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I was 16 and I had a previous eating disorder and he made fun of it because I didn't want
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to eat my food because I was nervous to be around him.
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Well, let's just, we're going to skip to your musts in a man.
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Be a Christian and you help each other grow in faith.
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So I've been a runner since I was seven years old competitively.
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And that guy who wouldn't hug me, he had the worst running form ever.
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And I was like, bro, bring it in tight and lock it in when you're running.
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So at some point in your relationship, y'all like raced and you knew that you would be
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No, he told me his time for running and it was really slow compared to mine.
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Wait, can you like scoot into the table, tilt the mic down?
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And can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table a little bit?
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So it's a heart and in the heart it says not yours.
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I was like, if a guy is like, no, fucking me and saying I got yours, I'm like, I'm not
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So guys, it's a heart and inside the heart, it says not, not, not yours.
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Maybe you should have spent some money on this.
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So my, it says not yours and you got it with the express, for the express purpose.
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If a guy is hitting it from the back, you want him to know that the pussy ain't his.
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Not my whole body, like myself, like I'm not yours because a lot of guys say, yeah, you're
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But so you're fine with the guy saying, you're mine.
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Damn, that's, that's a crazy, I'm going to see if we can find a picture of it because
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You said modern dating is all about the balance between having so many options and still wanting
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Apps have made meeting people easier, but they've also created a bit of choice overload.
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Your hot take, best connections happen when people go in without expecting perfection.
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If you meet someone and it's like a special look and you're like, oh my God.
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Dating, anybody here object to age gap relationships?
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What's the oldest, those of you who are single here, what's the oldest that you would date?
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You said hot take dating apps make hookups too accessible to a point it's dangerous, as
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well as sites like OnlyFans and PH, which are promoting women dehumanizing themselves and
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I feel like a lot of the time women will say like, oh, I'm on OnlyFans because I'm confident
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in myself and I want to, and I think that I'm like, what's the word?
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And I feel like by doing that, if anything, you're degrading yourself because you're putting
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yourself in that vulnerable position where anyone can see it.
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Well, I mean, I think if it didn't exist, it'd be a better world.
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But I understand that some people are in a position where that might be their only option,
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but some people just go into it because they want to and because they think it's going to
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And then, you know, I don't know, just, I don't think it's a good look.
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I'm gonna let a few more of the chats come through.
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John 1-1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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That's how you answer, Andrew, next time, Nala.
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He looked at her and said, don't do it, but you can take the girl out of the street,
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Unfortunate that number one is so loud with simp.
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They're just retarded nubile minds that can't understand logic.
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You're a gem and I can only pray these others took some notes.
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Nala the heresy you're spewing his roots in Gnosticism.
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You lay foundations for the faith of the Antichrist.
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As a Christian man, I want to know why you would even move towards someone who would do something like that.
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Suspicious number of TTS tonight that have been glazing up Nala and telling her,
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Dude, I literally just met these people tonight, so.
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To the John who married his blank, does the blue crayon taste better than the red one?
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I am the way, and the truth, and the life logic is how you learn what is true and what is false.
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I am having trouble believing you served based on how you disrespected your fellow service members.
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Also, the military slash jail thing died like 30 years ago.
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Actually false, because I know somebody who literally just went through.
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Jordan, if someone holds a gun to a kid and says to say the F word or he will shoot him, would you say the F word?
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Also, tell Andrew that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.
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Look, it's, it's, okay, I'm just, look, it's, I don't know, I can't find it.
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I can't even find a reason to be here right now, bro.
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Could you guys maybe give us a bit of background, like how you guys met?
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Yeah, so we actually met on TikTok live, and she came into my live, threw me a gift, and I was like, yo, what's up?
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And then we ended up just kind of like talking.
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She always, like, came in my lives, and I ended up finding, like, later on down the road, like, what she did, and, like, as a Christian, like, I knew that, you know, she was serving the world, not God, and I knew for a fact that, you know, God could set her free.
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My parents were praying for her, and, like, I didn't even have any, like, emotional ties, you know, like, with her.
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I wasn't like, oh, my gosh, like, I want to be with this person.
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We were literally just friends for, like, the majority of our relationship until we got married, and, which sounds crazy to even say.
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But, yeah, like, she ended up flipping her life around, actually.
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She was downstairs praying in her living room when God literally spoke to her and was like, I was all you ever needed, and she was able to give up everything.
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You know, she was making $300,000 a month, and she didn't even want that because at the end, you know, none of that's going to matter.
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You know, money, all these different things isn't going to matter.
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It's your relationship with God that's going to be on the line because God's going to ask you, you know, like, what did you do for me?
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You know, and it's like, I don't even know you.
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And it's like, that's the scariest thing, knowing a man.
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And people are like, oh, like, well, like, she's everywhere, blah, blah, blah.
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I married her, you know, for my relationship with God because, like, she helps me grow as a person.
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I'm not marrying somebody based off looks because looks fade, and it's all about personality and loyalty.
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And for the clip that everyone says, oh, she's a cheater, all this different stuff, it's like, you guys made that go viral.
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It worked because small-minded people, like, small-minded thinks.
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I mean, did you have any hesitation, though, when you first met her?
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Because when you first met her, you were still involved.
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And so, but you gave a pretty strong push from the get-go to get her out.
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That's kind of, in a way, what I do for a living.
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Not, like, with sex workers, but just, like, help people with their relationship with God.
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People come to me, advice on how to break their porn addictions or lust addictions, all these different things.
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I can't set you free, but God will use me to help set you free.
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And, I mean, did you have any, I guess, hesitations when it came to dating somebody who was involved?
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Because, like, one, there's, like, a mental toll.
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It's like, okay, like, a lot of the world has seen her.
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But, at the, I mean, in the end, who cares about the world?
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Who cares about what that guy over there thinks?
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Because, you know, he's not going home with her.
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I was going to ask, I mean, has it, even post Nala quitting, doing the OnlyFans, has it presented any issues or in your guys' relationship, the history there?
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I would say the hardest thing for me was, like, seeing people hate on her.
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And it's just, like, she changed her life around.
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And when she was in that industry, you know, people weren't hating.
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And then when she did change, people were hating.
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And it's, like, how are you going to hate on someone for bettering their life?
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And it's, like, it's definitely an attack from the enemy.
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Because, like, at the end of the day, the enemy comes to rob, kill, and destroy.
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He'll try to take you away from what God has for you.
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Because a lot of people, even, like, walking around us on the streets, do have demons.
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And when I say demons, it's more than just an addiction.
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Yes, we can see certain things, but the spirits are still around us.
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But has there been, like, any sort of, like, issues that have arisen because, either for you, Nala, or for you, Jordan, any issues that have arisen?
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Because, I mean, we hear a lot from people saying, well, it'll create certain conflicts in the relationship.
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It's more just, like I said, like, when people hate on her side.
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So, he's here to protect me against anyone and anything.
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And that is, like, his biggest issue is that people want to hate on me.
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It's my relationship with Christ and not yours.
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So, like, I see, I definitely see it from Jordan's point of view as just being my husband and being, like, you know what?
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You need to stop hating on her because you don't live with her.
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You have no idea what it's like to be with her, you know?
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And then how loyal she actually is or how spiritual she actually is or how many times a day she actually opens up her Bible.
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So, like, no one sees that because I don't produce that on the Internet because that's my personal walk with Christ.
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Like, people will use social media and their past to define them.
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And it's, like, in all reality, when you bring logic into it to whoever that guy was, it's, like, that's not what it is.
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You know, that's, like, almost a figment of your imagination, you know?
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Have you had any experiences, like, with even friends or family members who have questioned it?
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I had a lot of friends who were just, like, yo, like, what are you doing?
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But a big thing that God told me is, like, we're going to get her free.
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And that was something that kind of inspired me because at the end of the day, as long as you and God, you know, both of you, like, you understand it, you understand what God's telling you, that's all that matters.
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That's all that matters because someone else doesn't need to understand what God told me to do.
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And sometimes you don't even need to understand what God is telling you to do.
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Nala, Terry's videos of you fucking and sucking another guy permanently online now.
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Honestly, the fact that you watched it is disgusting.
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Jordan said Jesus man but wouldn't say the F word to say the kid from cancer in a hypothetical sense.
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You do realize that's taking the Lord's name in vain?
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Congratulations, you presented yourselves as lions and that's all you will be.
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You're an example of what a Christian should be.
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From someone who would marry a woman who sells herself.
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How can you condemn Andrew for his tone and swearing when God supposedly works in mysterious ways?
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I'm sure Andrew has helped turn more to Christ than your grifting arses.
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Chair 2, listen to the words of the lyrical genius of our time, the great ludicrous.
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Both demonic using God as a shield as Andrew tried to explain hours ago.
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Were you involved in the sex work industry at all?
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Then I'll try to get this wrapped up as quickly as I can.
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I'm about to have a mutiny on my hands with my staff back there.
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You had a few situationships and talking stages.
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Your first talking stage lasted around a month.
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Tell us the quick recap version of the first talking stage.
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Like, from talking one day to cuddling on a bed the next day.
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It was the first thing I've ever had with a guy.
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I think you're forgetting an important fact about me.
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Well, I don't know if we can get too much into details.
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He just said that he didn't know what I meant to him.
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Long distance, you know, didn't see each other in college.
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You made mistakes like saying I love you too early.
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Well, actually, I said I love you at the very, very end of it because I was like grasping
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That one, it was just full on talking stage and nothing, nothing ever happened.
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So, but, but it's just completely like, we're just platonic.
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You're maintaining your chastity until marriage, which is why you don't let people in often.
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It's hard to find guys who are accepting of waiting until marriage and are actually a practicing
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And then is there a denomination for the school or is it just vaguely Christian?
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And did you, have you guys, what's like the typical, when it comes to the men there,
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So most are not wanting to wait until marriage.
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I have actually, I think I've only met one guy there that, that I know who's actually
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I think only one out of all the, all the, all the friends I've made, only one.
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And are it more so the women there waiting for marriage or a lot of them are also smashing?
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Her and one more, the only people I know are waiting until marriage as well.
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I'm just, my birthday is this month, so I'm turning 20.
08:33:40.140
We have, uh, you're in an emotionally, I think we kind of already talked about it.
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You're in this emotionally abusive relationship.
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Um, you didn't realize that until going to therapy?
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I think after like everything happened, I realized that, yeah.
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Uh, he was like, always like the, I'm just exactly what you were.
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He was like, always like, oh, I love you one day.
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And then the other day he was like, oh, I don't think we should be together.
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He wanted to, he wanted to, he wanted to, he wanted to, he wanted to, no, not a sound
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And he went to my producer and my producer gave him like a song to put on top, never finished
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How are you, can you be half of an MS-13 member?
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I would see him like, like once every six months and it never went into anything sexual.
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It was like with my group of friends and there was an opposed that he was an MS-13 member.
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Did he, did you guys gang bang together or what?
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We should have opened with all those notes at the beginning.
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I mean, yeah, you guys talked about religion for like three hours.
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Just because you used to be a 304 doesn't mean you still aren't.
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This cuck married a girl whose wife used to get railed online for money.
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No surprise, you play COD, child's online daycare.
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Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap up the show?
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Fat boy Andrew needs to shut his 10-inch arm and big old titty having ass.
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Stick a fucking Twinkie in that Humpty Dumpty Teletubby looking motherfucker's mouth.
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If you can get that going, Damien, we're going to raid somebody called Frost Adamus.
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Get that pulled up while I get this outro going.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
08:38:20.660
Jordan, thank you for coming in here at the end of the show.
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I wish you good luck in finding the five million a year guy.
08:39:11.200
You have piercing blue eyes like a white walker from Game of Thrones.
08:39:37.800
Well, Tuesday, we are doing an election stream.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
08:39:46.220
If you can make it to Santa Barbara, we're going to do a Twitch raid.
08:40:08.440
I'm going to send the raid here in just a few seconds.
08:40:20.260
When you go over there, tell him he needs to kill his character in hardcore.
08:40:26.140
Tell him he needs to kill his character right now.
08:42:13.360
We see the light leave your eyes every time Nala getting her holes filled online is mentioned.
08:42:18.920
She got triple boosted by 50-plus other dudes' beef injections.
08:42:22.500
Can we get a nice TTS, just one last nice one, just to end the show, on a nice little compliment?
08:42:28.940
Maybe compliment, you know, just, okay, think about it.
08:42:54.740
This was a very long stream, so I thank you guys for your patience.
08:43:39.200
Shows her train stamp, and I'll wrap the show right now.
08:44:20.660
Bro, you're going to get my shit canceled, bro.