She Sent Her Ex Gorilla 💩？! Body Count RESETS After 7 Years？! Single Since 2007？! ｜ Dating Talk #209
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7 hours and 44 minutes
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165.9108
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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, Alex and Leah introduce themselves and talk about what they do, where they grew up, and what they want to do in the future. They also talk about why they think labiaplastics should be banned in the United States.
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for short. We're working to ban cosmetic labiaplasty procedures, 10,000 labiaplasties a year in the
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United States. Nobody else besides me is advocating for this. It's really the pressing issue. You know,
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So that's on the discord. And disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily
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reflect the views of the whatever channel. With that said, and without further ado, we're going to
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have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go
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ahead. Hi, my name is Alex. I'm 25. I'm originally from New York, but I live in LA now and my occupation
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is a model. All right. What kind of modeling? Kind of anything and everything. I do music videos. I've
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done runway. I've done e-com, whatever comes my way. Okay. And any school? Yeah. I went to college at GW
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in Washington, DC. Okay. What did you study? A little closer to the mic if you can. I studied
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political science. Political science. Okay. So you got your bachelor. Yeah. My undergrad.
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Okay. Bachelors. Yeah. All right. Cool. What about you? Hi, my name is Sina. I'm 18 years old. I'm
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currently in school for engineering and my occupation, I do OF. Okay. And where are you from? Toronto.
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Canada. Canada. Okay. You speak French? Maybe a little. Okay. And what kind of engineering do you
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want to do? Mechanical. Mechanical engineering. Okay. Got it. And then what do you do on OF?
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OF stuff. OF stuff. Well, I mean, people do all kinds of different things on there, so.
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Well, I guess you have to check it out to find out, right? Okay. We do have, I think,
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maybe one of your TikToks to react to a little bit later, so. Okay. What about you? Hi. My name
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is Leah. I'm 21. I was born in Kyiv, Ukraine, and moved to LA four years ago. My occupation,
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I'm getting my master's in theater next semester, so I'm an actress. Okay. And have you been in
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any TV shows or films or commercials, anything like that? Most of the projects that I was a part
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of was about theater. Theater project. Yeah. What productions, like a couple productions you've
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done? The most recent production was related to my university directly. It's CSUN, California
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State University, Northridge. It was an amazing play called Guarded, written by Boney B. Alvarez.
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This play demonstrated the biases of the Hollywood life, just in short. Okay. And what's your favorite
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play? Or top three, if it's hard to. Probably my. Wait, can I guess? Rent. Why? I don't know. I just get
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that. Rent. Rent. I did not know this play. How do you not, you're a theater kid and you don't know
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rent? Okay. I have no idea. Maybe it's before your time. Sorry. Okay. All right. What are your top
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three? My top three will be, okay, the first one is called The Mockingbird for Olenka. It's a Ukrainian
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play that shows the life of the survived people during the World War II. And the second one, I would
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say that I love the productions for Rhinoceros. It's a, it's an absolute play that is really hard
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to work on, but just very complex, worth it to try. And then third? The third one.
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Hmm. Maybe it will be Allergies for Angels, Punks, and Radiance. Who the fuck is that guy?
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Sorry. I don't know any of those plays, but they sound, they sound great. I mean, you're
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not the theater major. It's okay. I'm not, I'm not, but, uh, um, and are you, the plays
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you do, are they musicals? Are you a singer or what? I'm not a good singer. I make music
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and I'm not a good singer. No. Okay. Yeah. Ridiculous. So I definitely do not specialize in musicals.
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Okay. Could I have you just, uh, tilt your mic down just a little bit and maybe scoot
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into the, scoot it, like tilt it down and then tilt it down. Yeah. And then scoot into
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the table. What about you? Hi, I'm Tony Ray. I'm 41. I'm from Alaska and I'm a speech therapist.
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All right. Uh, how long, uh, speech language, speech language pathologist. How long you've
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been doing that for? 11 years. 11 years. Okay. Very cool. Uh, can you tell me if you detect
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any, uh, how do I put this irregularities in my speaking or cadence and you can criticize
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it or give me feedback? Not at this time. Nothing yet? Nothing yet. Okay. Nothing
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yet. Good fluency. What about you? Hi, I'm Tiffany. I'm 19 years old. I'm originally from Irvine
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and I'm a student at UCSB majoring in econ and poli-sci. All right. And it's your, uh, sophomore
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year, right? Yes. All right. Welcome back. What about you? Hi, I'm Megan. I'm 25 and I
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live in LA and I edit websites and I live stream on Bego and I started my own podcast. So yeah.
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All right. Uh, any school? Yeah, I went to Occidental. What did you study? Media production.
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Okay. You got your bachelor's. All right, cool. What about you? I'm Elizabeth. I am a 35 and I'm
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an associate marriage and family therapist in addition to a survivor leader and human trafficking
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advocate and consultant. So you advocate for human trafficking? Victims. Victims of human trafficking.
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Oh shit. Okay. I thought you were like in favor. No. Like you were advocating for it. No. Okay. Just
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checking. What about you? Hi, my name is Silly. I'm 30 years old and I'm from Belgium. Um, and I'm a
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parking inspector. All right. Any school? Yeah. High school, just high school. Okay. You didn't
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go to college or anything? No. And you're a parking inspector. Yes. How long you been doing
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that for? Half a year. Half a year. What were you doing before that? Um, I sold games at like
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some kind of GameStop thing. Okay. Like a, okay. For seven years. For seven years. Okay. So retail
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basically. Yes. Okay. Uh, and your parking inspection job, is it through the police? Like
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are you, or is it? It's through the city. Through the city. Yeah. So I have to check
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if, um, bar, um, if parked cars, uh, have paid for their parking spot. If they didn't, I
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have to find them. Wait, then you're, uh, from Belgium. Yes. But the Dutch speaking part
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of it? Yes. Yeah. Cause you don't sound, you don't have like a French-esque accent. Oh,
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thanks. You're the first one who says that. Yeah. And what part of Belgium? Um, yeah,
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Flemish part. So. Flemish part. Yeah. Okay. Is there a city or you don't have, if it's
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like small, you don't have to. Yeah. It's close to Brussels. Close to Brussels. Okay. You're
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in the Brussels metro area. Just next to it. Okay. Cool. Uh, and do you, uh, have you ever
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gone into any altercations while giving out a parking ticket? Cause a lot of people don't
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like parking enforcement. You are the enemy of a lot of people. Yes. I am the enemy.
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Okay. Yeah. Um, it's cursed to a lot. Yeah. All right. Cool. And, uh, by the way, guys,
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uh, Andrew, I know it's in the title. Andrew, uh, is going to be joining us, but he's going
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to be calling in a little bit later. There's some, uh, kind of family stuff going on with
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him, but he will be calling in a little bit later. Uh, so he'll be, uh, here soon. We're
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going to go around the table actually really quick. I had a couple of questions for you.
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I noticed you had an interesting tattoo on your Instagram, but it's not visible, right?
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Like can, if, can we see it or it's still visible if I move my hair a little, actually,
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uh, Damien, why don't you just pull up? Cause we had just have your Instagram. We'll just
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pull up the photo. Let's go. It's a little easier. And I want the story behind the, cause
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it's an interesting tattoo. Uh, yeah, go ahead. So it's, I'm winning. And is that
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like a Japanese, what is that? The, um, it's actually a very special drawing that my tattoo
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artist created for me. So it was not pre-drawn. I showed him the idea.
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And that image, I do not know if it's going to sound funny a little, but it, it came to
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me in the dream actually. And one day I just woke up with an idea that I would love to have
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this kind of a guardian that will be right in the back of my head and we'll see all the
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shit that is happening behind my back. So it will protect me. Do you believe in God?
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Um, I'm agnostic. Do you understand what it is?
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Yeah. Um, agnostic basically, um, states that they do not know and they do not have a very
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specific image for the God, but at the same time, they can feel or sense that there's something.
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They just do not believe in any of the portraits that are already created by some religions.
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Does anybody here have a tattoo they regret? I have a quick question. I was, I was wondering,
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did you shave your head, have to shave your head to get that tattoo? Did you have to shave
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it Bick Bald? Yeah. Yeah. I was in Berlin and I shaved my head and the next day I got the
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tattoo. It's amazing. I shaved my headphones too. You guys bonding over your shaving your
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heads? Yeah. Have you ever shaved my head? Um, well, I, uh, I used to have dreadlocks and
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so I, I had shaved my head. Oh. Yeah. Oh. I have that in common with you and then I shaved
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my head and I have that in common with you. I have a tattoo I regret. You have a? Tattoo
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I regret. What is it? Is it your Kanye tattoos? Yeah, it's the ballerina from Runaway. Well,
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don't you have like multiple Kanye West inspired tattoos? I have three. So you only regret one?
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Yeah. The other two of you? I like them. You like those? Yeah. Why do you regret that one?
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Cause it's on my waist and it's like too, it's like too much. It's too big. Too big? Yeah. It's
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just the size of it? Yeah. It's not the design? No. And the location? Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool.
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All right. So we're going to go around the table. What is everybody's current relationship status?
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If you're single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've
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ever been in? Go ahead. Um, I'm currently single. Um, and I have currently been single for a year
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since my last relationship actually this month. So, um, and it's been the best year ever. So
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no regrets there. Um, and my longest relationship was four years. I've had two relationships that were
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almost that length, my only two ever. Um, and I'm proud of that. I think four year relationships,
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you learn a lot about yourself. You learn, um, yeah. So proud of that. Okay. Uh, and so the
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relationship that ended one year ago, is that the four year relationship? Yeah. Okay. Uh, who broke up
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with who? I broke up with him. And then you had another four year relationship. Yeah. Prior to that.
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That's also the tattoo I regret. Cause I tatted his initials on my ring finger when I was 17.
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So don't do that. And, uh, so who broke up with who? I, I'm always the one who dumps them.
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Always. Always. You've never been dumped? A hundred percent. Always the dumper. How many
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dumps have you done? Two. Two. And I'm two for two. That sounded kind of, uh, pause. Uh, wow. Okay. Uh,
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what about you? What was the question again? Oh, uh, relationship status. If you're single,
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how long have you been single? Longest relationship. So I've been single for a year. My longest was
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a year and a half. Okay. Uh, what about that guy that was with you? Is that not? What? Like,
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do I see that? What? Bustard. What? What? What? No, there was a guy standing with her while she
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was waiting. So I was just wondering who that is. Your brother? At, at manager? Escort? No,
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no. Escort? No, not like male escort. I don't know. Um, okay. Uh, you said your longest
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relationship was 1.5 years? Yes. Okay. And, uh, who broke up with who? I broke up with
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him. Why? Complicated. Uh-huh. Okay. I guess we were both young and immature. Yeah. So I
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guess I just took the leap and decided to do it. Okay. And, uh, wait, and you're 18. How long,
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uh, when did you start your OnlyFans? 18. Right? Like the day after your birthday or? No,
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two months ago, September. Okay. Oh, so you just turned 18? No. Oh. You started your OnlyFans two
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months ago? Yes. Okay. All right. Relationship status? Single. Okay.
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How long you been, how long you been single for? For about two years. All right. Longest
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relationship? Two and a half years. Who broke up with who? That person broke up with me. Okay.
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Was that the one that ended two years ago? Mm-hmm. Okay. Uh, man or woman? Woman. Okay. And
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you're, uh, bisexual, correct? Straight. Oh. Yeah. But you dated a woman for two and a half
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years? Yeah. That's the problem. Explain that one. Long story short, that woman broke up with me
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because she already sensed that I do not love her anymore. And I was not conscious about my own
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personality enough to realize it on time that I'm not into women and that I cannot commit to a woman
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like that. So she was already felt very unhappy and unfulfilled while I thought that it's just a
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complicated period of the relationship. So I was incredibly grateful when she did it for me and
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for both of us. You're grateful she dumped you? Yeah. I'm so happy that she did because
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that's when my best life started. I'm so sorry. I'm not made for a woman. That's it. Okay. So you
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were, it was like an experimental phase or something? It was actually the most successful relationship I
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ever had. I have never felt that loved, that secure, that respected. But again, I need a man. I see
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myself only with a man. So at some point I was not feeling comfortable or happy in that relationship
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as well. Okay. But you have dated men before then? Yeah. You said you've been single there for two
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years. I mean, have you dated in this time period? I did not have a partner, but I did dating in general,
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seeing new people, going on a date. Yeah. Are you, is there currently a guy in the picture? No.
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No. No guy? No. Not even texting? Well, many, many are texting, but it's such a regular texting. It's
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not like... Sneaky link? No, it's like, oh, hey, would you like to go to the park one day? I'm like,
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oh, I'm busy. Okay. That's it. Huh. Yeah. Not happening, unfortunately. When's the last time you went on a date?
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Maybe two weeks ago. Two weeks ago? Yeah. Okay. First date. Yeah. And last date. First date,
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last date. Yeah. You didn't like him? No. Why's that? He ended up being bisexual and... I knew you were
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going to say he was gay or bi or whatever. Sorry. I do not know if that's allowed, but yeah, that's,
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that's the problem number one. Yeah. I did not, I would not be able to... Theater? Theater guy?
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The what? Theater? Hell no. No. No. No, it's just that it was not the energy that I'm striving for.
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Usually when I deal with the bi guys, they literally do not have the energy I need. I'm not
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interested in sharing my men with the other men. I'm not interested in having this risk into the
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relationship, especially when that's a bottom. I'm so sorry. That guy was a bottom too.
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What? He was a bottom? Yeah. How did you know? You asked him? Oh, he's shared? He told you?
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Yeah. Yeah. Wait, just really quick to the whole panel, just show of hands. Would you date a bisexual man?
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Any, nobody? Would you date a bisexual girl? Uh, maybe. Yeah. I'd prefer to date a straight girl though,
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but I suppose I would date a bi girl. What? Why are you looking at me? Tiffany, what the fuck?
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Uh, so wait. Okay. What's the, in the two years you've been single, what's the longest you've like
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seen a guy? Four months. Four months, but not boyfriend, girlfriend. It was like a casual hookup.
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No, it was, it was getting to the point of a relationship, but thankfully never happened.
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Also bi? No, just, just a dumb ass. Okay. All right. What about you? Um, I'm single. Okay. My
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longest relationship was two and a half years. He was my best friend for like two and a half years
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before that. So we were in relationship with each other for like five years, but we were only an item
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for two and a half years. Were you guys having carnal knowledge? Yes, we lived together. No,
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I mean for the previous two and a half years. No. Just friends? Yeah. Strictly friends? Yes. And
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roommates, but strictly friends until it changed. Eh, you guys weren't together for five years.
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No, no. I said we were together for two and a half years. No, but then you said, I, did I not hear
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five years? No, he was my best friend for two and a half years. And then he was my boyfriend for two
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and a half years. Did she not say five? We were, I heard five. We were in, I heard a five. Yeah.
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We were in relationship for a total of five years, including two and a half years as my best friend
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and two and a half years as my boyfriend. And maybe I'm just being pedantic, but I, I don't know if I
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would consider you guys in a relationship for five years. So you had a friendship for two and a half
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years and then you were in a relationship for two and a half years. Yeah. I guess nitpicky on that,
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but, uh, so that's your longest relationship. Uh, and you've been single for how long?
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That was 2007. So 17 years. You've been single for, I have not called anybody a boyfriend for 17
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years or committed to any. So you've been single since the Bush administration. Yes. George Bush.
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That's true. That's, that's affirmative. Um, you've been celibate for 17 years. I did not say that.
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Oh, okay. All right. Just, you know, just clarify, clarify. Wait, so, okay. Your 2.5 year
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relationship was, which was your longest that ended in 2007. So you would have been, uh, 20,
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early twenties, 24, 23, something like that. All right. And, huh.
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What, uh, since then, what's the longest period of time you've been involved with a man
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or, um, there was a man that I talked to on the phone. We had a long distance. I'm going to say
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a relationship, but I want to be careful the way I use that word with you, Brian. Yeah. I'm very
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triggered by it. Yeah. We, um, it was a long distance thing. We talked on the phone a lot and
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then, um, I went to go visit him and I was like, I don't actually like spending time with you.
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So this was a big waste of time. That was about a year. But you only saw him in person once
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and you guys carried on a long distance, like you met online. Um, no, he was the brother of a friend
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of mine and, um, we talked on the phone, did FaceTime for a year, but you only met in person
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once for a week and then it ended. Yes. I ended. So there was like a year buildup of like you started
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long distance and that's okay. That's, uh, I really, I really, it's important to me to get
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to know somebody a lot. For a year? Sorry. Did I say that out loud? My bad. Well, there was nothing
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that we can do across the country, um, to, uh, be physically closer and like get to know each other
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that way. But when we, when we were physically closer, just proximally, then I was like, you
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know what? I actually don't like spending time with you. Like the way I thought I might there,
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there's, I learned a lot. I don't want to be in a long distance relationship. I don't feel like
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what was the issue when you guys met in person? I don't want to nag. Sex was bad? Bad sex?
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It was a lot of other things. Penis too big? Um, I don't eat ramen noodles for lunch. Penis too small?
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He didn't tip the waitress. That's a problem. Wait, sorry. What? What about, um, can't be with
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someone who doesn't tip the waitress. That's embarrassing. And being embarrassed is one of
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the job. It was pretty consistent, but, um, yeah, I think being embarrassed is one of the
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worst feelings in the world and I couldn't possibly. Wait, feel embarrassed. What were you embarrassed
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about? About tipping the waitress poorly. The tipping thing. Okay. Yeah. I'd have to like,
00:25:17.040
go back to the restaurant and buy some syrup and add 10 bucks and be like, give it to the
00:25:20.340
lady. Did he pay for the date? Oh, we always, oh, oh, what a great question. He did a couple
00:25:25.940
of times. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's the way I could have recovered. I should have gone Dutch
00:25:30.220
and then I could have made a good tip. Yeah. You could have contributed to the, oh, and I did
00:25:34.460
like, I would go back and I would buy, buy a souvenir from the restaurant and then I'd add
00:25:37.940
a tip to the little item that I bought so that I could make sure that she's taken care
00:25:41.440
of. Okay. Uh, and then did you guys have carnal knowledge? That's such a funny phraseology.
00:25:48.660
Yes. During that week. Yes. Was it, it wasn't good.
00:25:59.180
I cannot confirm or deny your question, Brian. Well, I mean, it would give us good insight
00:26:03.980
into perhaps the cause of this, you know, you guys, it wasn't hypnotizing, not, not hypnotizing.
00:26:11.320
Okay. All right. Um, so didn't tip sex was mediocre. Is that pretty much the base of the
00:26:21.260
quarrel? I guess there's just a, there's just a really big difference between the way that
00:26:24.480
you spend time with someone in person. And then the story that you make up in your mind
00:26:27.620
about somebody when you're just on the phone or just messaging people, it's the same way that
00:26:32.480
I feel like when you're messaging someone online and you're trying to get to know them and you
00:26:35.820
think that you've gotten to know them well enough that you agree to like have a date and then you
00:26:39.720
have a date and you're like, Oh my God, I just wasted weeks messaging this person. And I can tell
00:26:44.360
and you wasted a year, but go ahead on the phone and with FaceTime video. I thought, I thought that
00:26:51.820
that that was maybe talk several times a week, three, four times a week, a couple hours, at least an
00:26:58.440
hour, at least an hour. Yeah. Somebody did with the time different. Yeah. With the time
00:27:02.460
difference. It was really inconvenient. And I, um, when we actually spent time together,
00:27:07.840
it just wasn't the magic. I flew out to him. Did he pay for your flight? No. You paid for your
00:27:15.540
own flight? Yes. Oh, no, no. Have you been flown out before? Um, yes, I have. Yes, I have. How many
00:27:25.000
times have you been flown out? Um, a few times, like not, it's not like something I do regularly.
00:27:32.640
Where to Miami? Out the country, baby does. Oh, out the country. Dubai. Business class only too.
00:27:39.980
Um, where? Like, um, I, any middle Eastern countries? Uh, yes. Saudi? Dubai? One of my exes was Arab. So,
00:27:50.140
okay. Yes. Yeah. With which country? Uh, he's from Kuwait. So we went all over the Middle East
00:27:56.240
together. Yeah. Okay. Yes. And you've been flown out to Europe? Yes, I have been flown out to Europe,
00:28:03.960
uh, but not in like a weird way. Like, um, in a way of like, I was talking to somebody and we decided
00:28:11.840
to go together, not in a way of like, any type of like transactional, uh, thing. Okay. Sure. How many
00:28:20.780
times total do you think you've been flown out? Probably like a handful, like five maybe. Okay.
00:28:28.220
All right. Cool. Um, so single since 2007. Yes. Uh, and
00:28:36.300
did you say the longest period of time that you've been involved with somebody since then?
00:28:44.900
Like, have you had a one year thing, a six month thing?
00:28:49.240
No, just the, the phone relationship. Um, otherwise no, everything fizzles out pretty quickly.
00:28:56.460
Why is that? Why is that? That's a great question. I'm asking you. Let's get to the bottom of this.
00:29:01.460
Is it them? Is it you? Once you get to be in your forties and you're never married and no kids,
00:29:06.980
you start to learn that it's you. Um, but, uh, I, um, what's your, uh, what's your analysis? What's
00:29:16.220
your assessment of yourself then? You know, I, I may be being a little self-deprecating when I say that.
00:29:21.680
Um, but I'm, I'm looking for, um, a good match and I'm not, I don't want to just settle on like,
00:29:28.380
oh, okay. You, um, it, I don't know. I want to be in love. I want to love somebody more than I've
00:29:35.620
ever loved anybody in my whole life. And that takes time. And I think that love probably looks
00:29:42.080
and feels a lot different in your forties than it does in your twenties. And so that's a really hard,
00:29:46.760
um, place to get to, to, to love somebody really hard and to, to have a meaningful relationship with
00:29:53.920
somebody. It takes time. Shudder. I, I, I've done that. I've done that. It feels like a reject
00:30:04.840
club. Um, what do you, what do you mean reject club? People who couldn't find the match in real
00:30:11.100
life. So they have to go to the reject club. Yeah. So you, yeah, I'm hearing you. Yeah. That's
00:30:17.620
why I got on there. And I'm like, you know what I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to put,
00:30:21.580
I'm going to find the exit. I'm not going to do this anymore. It's like, but aren't they,
00:30:25.540
they're kind of in the same boat that you're in. Yep. Anyways, I, in any case, I don't think
00:30:30.980
somebody is on a dating app. It doesn't mean that there are rejects. I know I'm, I'm, I'm,
00:30:35.560
I'm being a little harsh. I'm a little harsh, but in any case, um, so what are you looking for in a man?
00:30:45.160
Um, I want somebody who impresses me. Impress. Yeah. I want to be impressed.
00:30:51.100
In what capacity? I know that that's going to wear off, but, um, you could impress me with
00:30:56.940
anything. Your, your talents, your talents. Yeah. Um, your talents, your skills, your knowledge,
00:31:02.860
maybe, you know, lots of stuff about lots of things. So like high, high intelligence, high IQ.
00:31:07.460
Yeah. You could high intelligence, or maybe, um, just, uh, uh, uh, someone who knows how to fix
00:31:12.820
things around the house or, and these are all options. You don't have to be all of these things,
00:31:18.740
but they've got to be one or a few. You have to be interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting.
00:31:24.740
Interesting. Okay. Um, what, so what are the other things? Provoke an intellectual conversation.
00:31:30.080
Um, I want somebody who we can have shared meals together and we enjoy the same kinds of food.
00:31:36.380
I want someone who, he doesn't have to make as much money as I, but I want him to be able to afford
00:31:41.660
to go on vacations with me. And I mean, I can, I can kick in and I can help. Um, I, I break six
00:31:48.420
figures. Okay. Would you like the guy to also make six figures or are you flexible? I mean,
00:31:53.180
that would be nice, but I'm totally flexible because I, I know I'm not, I don't want to be
00:31:57.680
too narrow. Um, I'm really open to the person. Sure. Um, but as far as what they bring to the table,
00:32:03.700
I, I don't want to completely take care of them, but you know what? If this man can build a house from
00:32:08.780
the bottom up, I'll buy that, I'll buy that house and you build it, honey. That wouldn't
00:32:13.600
be fine. Wait, you want a man who can build a house all on his own? No, I'm not a complete
00:32:19.160
absolutist. There's like HVAC, there's plumbing, there's carpentry. And you have to pay for all
00:32:23.240
of it? Right. I'm not going to have. I mean, if you could find a man who could actually build
00:32:29.220
the house on his own. It wouldn't even have to have all that. I live in Alaska and I'd be
00:32:34.180
happy in a dry cabin. Um, I, uh, cabin maker. Okay. Um, I'm not hung up on a perfect ideal.
00:32:43.740
Let's go back really quick to the income. 50,000 too little.
00:32:51.720
No, I think that that would, that'd be adequate, but just someone who can afford to go on vacation
00:32:56.120
with me and live the lifestyle that I want to live. I can take care of my part.
00:33:00.000
Okay. So what is the lifestyle that you want to live? I want to go out to the theater and enjoy
00:33:06.560
some shows. Um, I want to go to concerts and I want to be in the front row. Um, I'm going on a
00:33:12.580
vacation to Peru right now and I'm going on a seven day yoga retreat in Machu Picchu. And I would love
00:33:17.980
someone who can pay their own way to join me on a trip like that. So you'd want them to go 50,
00:33:22.200
50 with you on the vacationing and stuff. Yeah. Even if you out earn them by. Well, I mean, I can,
00:33:28.700
I could pay for like the flights, but like, as far as like, when it comes to this vacation,
00:33:32.960
for example, um, I, I paid for like the yoga retreat for myself. I would want him to pay for,
00:33:38.420
you know, participating. But if he doesn't want to participate in the yoga retreat,
00:33:43.220
then he can go on, on a different, we can find a different vacation and I'll go on yoga retreat and
00:33:48.820
he can go on a cruise and play poker. Sure. Okay. You can impress me with how well you play poker.
00:33:53.780
You could impress me lots of different ways. Okay. So you want somebody to impress you. You want
00:33:59.700
someone to be interesting. Any, any other things? Are there any, uh, physical traits like height or,
00:34:11.940
I want someone who can fit in a regular airplane seatbelt and who doesn't have to ask for a seatbelt
00:34:18.320
extender. Okay. Um, so somewhat, you don't want to date an obese guy. See, I want to be careful with
00:34:27.900
that word because it's, uh, he doesn't have to be perfect. The, that would, that would be my,
00:34:32.580
my measurement. My, my barometer is fit into a, don't have to ask for a seatbelt extender.
00:34:37.740
So he could be obese, just not that obese. Right. Yeah. I don't, I don't know how to frame it.
00:34:43.440
What about height? I'm a short lady. I mean, you can, you can, I would go pretty short and I would
00:34:49.420
go, go shorter than I, someone shorter than you. I mean, five foot, I'm good on to five feet. But if
00:34:56.020
you're, if it's, if the man is shorter than five feet, he's going to need a shorter woman.
00:35:01.240
Wait, I have a question. Wouldn't you want to date someone who's like a provider?
00:35:06.260
Well, yeah, that would be great. Do you think you've lowered your standards over the years?
00:35:11.980
Yes. Okay. Quick. Yes. What were your standards when you were 20? Yeah. Um, at that time I would
00:35:19.440
want somebody who would out earn me, but at that time I didn't know what my earning potential was
00:35:23.080
going to be. Wait, so what's the difference now? Like why is it lowered so much? Is it because of the,
00:35:28.900
because the pool is a lot more narrow. Okay. Yeah. I'm just going to be perfectly candid.
00:35:33.920
Okay. Um, and so in the past year, how many first dates have you gone on?
00:35:42.240
Uh, one this year. Um, just one. Yeah. Okay. Then any sneaky links, sneaky links. That's like,
00:35:50.040
uh, casual flame hookup type thing. Um, no, nothing casual, but, um, the last time I kind of matched
00:35:58.220
with somebody was, um, um, maybe two or three months ago, uh, someone that I've known for a while,
00:36:09.940
Cardinal knowledge. Affirmative. Affirmative. Okay. Cool. All right. Um, how, and if they're not
00:36:18.640
impressive or they're not interesting, is that a deal breaker?
00:36:21.040
See, I think that people become interesting once you start to get to know them. Um, almost everybody's
00:36:27.480
in the friend zone right off the bat because I'm just trying to get to know you. And, um, my, my
00:36:33.140
interest in you grows when I learn more about you and what your skills and talents are. And that's
00:36:40.920
when I become attracted to somebody. Wait, and you live in Alaska, right? Yes. What's the population
00:36:45.960
of Alaska? Um, six, around 750,000, a little bit under that. And are you in Anchorage? That's
00:36:52.640
the capital. A little bit north of Anchorage. That's the capital, right? Uh, Juneau is the
00:36:55.440
capital. Or it's the, it's the most, uh, populous area. Yes. Um, you're an hour, um, or how far from
00:37:03.860
the, uh, not the capital though. From Anchorage. I'm about, uh, half, 20 minutes, 30 minutes from
00:37:09.840
Anchorage, but, um, that's just from the north side of Anchorage. It takes another 45 minutes to get
00:37:14.780
all the way across the city. So I feel like it's gotta be hard to like to date in Alaska. It's like
00:37:21.660
the most remote place. You know, I wish I was thinking of things like that when I was 30 and I
00:37:28.020
decided to move there. I'm not sure right now I'm buying a house and I'm going to own it in three more
00:37:32.800
years and then I'll be better positioned to make those kinds of choices. Texas has been kind of on
00:37:39.120
the brain lately, but, um, in Alaska, they say that the ratio of men to women is 10 men to one woman. Um,
00:37:47.380
and they probably, they probably say this other places, but a saying in Alaska is that the,
00:37:52.000
the odds are good, but the goods are odd. Does that apply to you?
00:37:59.880
Affirmative. All right. Okay. All right. What about you?
00:38:11.640
All right. Cool. It's long, uh, long distance or?
00:38:21.820
Okay. And I, you've been on the show like two times, I think before, two times or three?
00:38:30.000
It's been a while since we've had you on. Uh, if I recall, you were celibate prior to this?
00:38:54.300
Oh, I can't, I'm, can you read it for us? Cause I, I can't remember to say it.
00:38:59.220
It says, I'm single and in the mood to get nervous around someone I find attractive, but
00:39:09.920
And ready to do whatever your shirt says. Uh, how long you been single for?
00:39:14.200
Um, I've been single for like, I want to say like two years, but I've had like things
00:39:20.000
with people in between kind of like boys just love me. We said, I love you. The two guys
00:39:35.900
I broke up with him because I saw him been mowing this girl that he was not allowed to
00:39:40.940
talk to. I mean, not that he wasn't allowed to talk to, but we agreed that if he talked
00:39:45.320
Did you see what the note was? Was it like for plan B or something?
00:39:51.740
I don't know exactly what it was, but I think she was buying like something from him. If you
00:40:11.560
And, uh, the three-year relationship, was that the one that ended two years ago?
00:40:19.420
Um, I mean, they were both like around three years.
00:40:41.560
Let's see what else. In the two-year period, you've been single. You said there's been
00:40:51.020
Like, I saw one guy for a year. And then the other one, it like recently ended because
00:41:06.040
Yeah. He was like a lot older. I wanted to live my life, but he trained me right.
00:41:34.440
No, I actually wasn't. I wasn't. I, no. Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't.
00:41:38.560
Okay. But you didn't, wait. And then the other guy was for how long? Six months, you
00:41:50.560
Well, we didn't date, but we were like seeing each other for like six months.
00:41:54.220
You didn't date. So what was the nature of seeing each other?
00:42:02.820
My money-making hours, I would put aside for him. Um, and he was my neighbor, so it was
00:42:08.860
Convenient. Like, yeah, like four minutes. Like that's rare in L.A.
00:42:15.520
Oh, sorry. I thought we were talking about the nature. Okay.
00:42:19.040
Uh, so it was like, uh, friends with benefits, hookup, buddy, or?
00:42:27.400
With benefits. Friendly neighbors with benefits.
00:43:27.800
Yeah. So we're, we weren't dating, but, and I don't get any, I didn't get any support from him.
00:43:42.180
I basically told him that he could, like, be in her life, um, or not, because he was denying the pregnancy.
00:43:51.820
And then, um, he chose not to, and I just said that I would ask that he not contact me until she's old enough to understand.
00:44:16.720
Uh, who broke up with who in the five-year relationship?
00:44:27.820
I have, like, a change every five years. I don't know. I wanted to go out and stuff. Um, and he didn't.
00:44:39.680
It was, um, I was with him during COVID. So, um, I was inside a lot and we liked it because he's a gamer.
00:44:48.080
Um, but then COVID, yeah, helped me in a lot of the house and, and, uh, I wanted to go out and...
00:45:08.680
Yeah, he was, uh, playing Magic and I was, um, waiting for my graded Pokemon cards.
00:45:23.220
Uh, he plays Commander, so it doesn't really matter.
00:45:43.880
Well, like, I know it, but I'm not really, I don't play.
00:45:46.860
Oh, yeah, it's a different kind of Pokemon game.
00:46:15.280
That's a, that's like the Magic the Gathering official head, headgear.
00:46:33.980
We're going to get into some of the pre-show notes, guys.
00:46:37.660
Andrew Wilson will be joining us in a little bit, guys.
00:46:50.460
You do exclusive, uncentered content, solo, and BG content.
00:47:01.240
Yeah, I do a little investigating on the guests beforehand.
00:47:06.160
Not investigating, but, you know, research, rather.
00:47:18.380
Like, not, it's not your, it's like just a guy.
00:47:26.480
And I think it's either on your Twitter or your OF.
00:47:48.140
I, I was, it actually, that's how I, I think I first saw you.
00:48:08.260
Um, your most popular one is the, the burrito one.
00:48:23.860
How are you going to finish that shit in three bites, bro?
00:48:30.880
I, that, that's like, that's at least 12, 12, 20, 20 bites.
00:48:43.000
Why do you put cream on the, on the, outside the burrito?
00:48:58.840
Oh, no, the chat's going to get me for that one.
00:49:04.580
Have you ever been able to, in three bites, finish a phallic shaped?
00:49:10.160
If you continue watching, I actually finish a whole corn dog, six inch or longer, in three
00:49:24.380
Uh, you said there was a date where the guy you went out with kept comparing you to fictional
00:49:28.720
anime characters and K-pop idols trying to convince you to turn Korean as you looked at the part
00:49:39.980
So, basically, I went out on this date once with this guy.
00:50:05.480
And he kept pulling out photos of, like, anime girls and, like, scrolling and, like, oh, my
00:50:13.160
And then, there were K-pop idols that he kept comparing me to.
00:50:16.840
And then, he was like, you know, if you, like, dress like that, you would go, like, you'd
00:50:28.820
And, he was saying to me, like, oh, you're not Chinese.
00:50:35.840
And, I was like, I don't know my own ethnicity?
00:51:12.140
You said you don't, you said you don't like Koreans.
00:51:19.720
Because a lot of them tend to be like mama's boys.
00:51:46.480
And then you said your take on dating growing up with your father spoiling you, you look
00:51:51.740
for men who provide, you look for a man who provides everything.
00:52:03.980
A provider, like someone who takes care of you, who pays for everything.
00:52:08.420
Like, I know you're talking about the 50-50, if you couldn't find a provider.
00:52:15.080
I feel like, to me, it's like, I want someone who can provide for me just like my father did,
00:52:23.400
And, you know, someone who will spoil me, but obviously, I'll do my part as well, because
00:52:32.920
there's no, like, someone can't just provide for you, and you don't, like, expect to do
00:52:45.740
It might be a little iffy, but, like, I would be a traditional housewife.
00:52:56.620
I don't mind, like, being a traditional housewife, taking care of the kids, doing my
00:53:14.740
Yeah, the mic was just kind of blocking your face.
00:53:26.620
But, so, you said you want a provider, so, but, like, you're 18, right?
00:53:30.180
So, what's the age group that you're typically dating, or would date?
00:53:57.380
Would you date, like, another 18, or 19, or 20-year-olds?
00:54:02.900
Because I was going to say, probably most 18, 19, 20-year-olds are not going to be able
00:54:07.060
to provide for you in the way that you want to be provided.
00:54:21.700
But, okay, so you would date a guy who's older than you.
00:54:37.540
But I got deported back to China for four years.
00:54:46.060
I got sent, so my parents gave birth to me, and then they sent me back for four years.
00:54:53.760
So you don't, you probably don't even remember most of that, right?
00:55:06.040
I feel like, do you guys remember, like, stuff that, like, when you were three?
00:55:16.600
I mean, even when you're in your youth, typically you don't remember, like, early.
00:55:23.520
I mean, like, three, four, you can, like, I think you start getting memories, but.
00:55:32.880
Like, you know, those baby basket carry thingies?
00:55:36.380
I remember being a baby, and then my uncle dropped me.
00:55:45.220
Not a newborn, like, I was one years old, I guess.
00:55:55.560
I think she might have, like, made up a memory.
00:56:00.300
Like, you wouldn't remember something that happened to you when you were one years old.
00:56:12.520
But so, okay, you were deported by your parents.
00:56:19.820
And, but you were born in Canada, then you came back to Canada at four.
00:56:37.880
Spoiled me as in, like, you know, I was very, everything I wanted, I got, in a way, but also spoiled me as in, like, protectively.
00:56:57.780
Like, he tried his best for me, even if he had nothing.
00:57:02.340
Like, to me, that's, like, called being spoiled.
00:57:04.200
Like, he would go through, he would climb a mountain just to, like, help me.
00:57:17.400
No, she's, like, saying it, like, he passed away or something.
00:57:21.040
I think she's speaking in past tense, because she's talking about, like, her childhood.
00:57:53.160
So nobody will recognize you who knows your parents?
00:57:58.500
Some might, just probably won't talk to my parents about it.
00:58:04.940
Because I don't think people would talk to my parents.
00:58:14.220
Wait, so, what would their reaction be if they did find out?
00:58:23.860
Um, I think it'd be very different with my mom and my dad, because they're very different.
00:58:49.700
But, eventually, to me, like, the way that I grew up, I think they'd just be like, you
00:59:21.580
Um, do you have, like, a game plan for when they do find out?
00:59:28.820
I was, like, I was trying to say, like, what I could do if that did happen, like, running
00:59:36.220
Because I think the best thing is just stay quiet.
00:59:45.600
So, if your dad, if he was, you know, you have a conversation with him, he's obviously
00:59:50.440
upset, and he's like, I want you to stop, do you stop, or do you just say, nah?
01:00:04.260
And what if he told you, I can provide for you?
01:00:08.680
But I think that providing, like, takes its turns.
01:00:11.200
Like, obviously, when I was a kid, he was providing for me, but now that I'm older, it's
01:00:18.420
So, the money that I make will obviously help them, too.
01:00:31.260
I guess they just get suspicious, like, where all this money can come from.
01:01:01.120
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01:01:38.720
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I am concerned, and this is the main reason why I've never had it, but I'm planning on
01:01:59.080
posting the videos where I'm like, oh, I created the OnlyFans, it's not porn.
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And also, I want you to probably add it into my bio.
01:02:13.900
You think people would want to click that link, though?
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Because I feel like the whole point of clicking the link is to see.
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I've got to try it, but I'm definitely not doing the explicit thing.
01:02:24.040
Wait, so you've already created the account, or?
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I mean, you might as well post it somewhere else, then.
01:02:58.340
There have been at least five times in my life when I was thinking, huh, maybe, maybe
01:03:10.780
I know none of you, besides her, have an OnlyFans, but have you thought about doing
01:03:38.880
Like, you imagine it, but not with the possibility of you actually doing it.
01:03:51.800
Because, like, you know you're not going to do it.
01:03:57.000
I think that, like, personally, like, I have lots of friends who do it, and when you
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hear the amount of money that they're making, it's like, whoa.
01:04:07.480
Yeah, it's, like, a lot of money, and, but then, me personally, I feel like that compromises,
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Just, I don't, I, I personally am not a sex worker.
01:04:28.280
I don't judge people who do that, but I just don't feel comfortable, like, for lack of a
01:04:35.220
better word, exploiting myself for an amount of money, no matter how big it is.
01:04:41.040
Honestly, the bigger the money is, the more exploitive, exploited, whatever, exploitive
01:04:48.180
Just curious, can you share how much you're making?
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Yeah, from the rate that I'm going from the two months.
01:05:23.420
All right, we have a chat here from Lowell Paladins.
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She's speaking weird about her dad who spoils her because she's fishing for OnlyFans sims
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Does that mean, like, I'm trying to act a certain way?
01:05:48.720
Well, I think he's questioning if your dad actually spoiled you.
01:05:56.480
Did your parents, like, cut off financial assistance completely after you turned 18?
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So, if your dad was, like, such a provider when you were a kid, why couldn't he,
01:06:10.420
Well, because don't you want to take initiative?
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Like, don't you want to provide for your, do you pay for your own tuition?
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So, is there no sense of, like, don't you want to pay for your own stuff?
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You just want to live under their wing forever?
01:06:32.280
I think I want to, like, transition from being provided for my parents to a guy.
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But, to me, it's like, obviously I want that, too, but I want to provide for myself.
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Because when they get old, they're not going to be working.
01:06:51.000
Then, it's the kid's turn to provide for them, right?
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It's like, I think that's true in some cultures.
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Yeah, but you want to provide not through sex work.
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And I don't think it's the children's job to provide for their parents.
01:07:26.100
Lucas says, you want a man who's a trad provider because your father – wait, because your
01:08:02.340
Wait, would you be upset at your mom if you found out she was doing OF content?
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I am curious because you said you're doing OnlyFans to pay for a university.
01:08:37.380
My estimated quit date were like what I hope – okay, I hope to go from OnlyFans to like
01:08:44.420
an influencer because, you know, you're posting on social media, you're doing content, you're
01:08:52.020
connecting with your audience and people, right?
01:08:55.140
So, obviously, there's a little bit of influencing to that.
01:08:58.900
So, hopefully, in terms of that, I can shift over in the next one to two years to like a
01:09:11.540
You said that you would not – you would prefer if your parents did not know that you were
01:09:18.480
And then you want to take the profits that you make from OnlyFans and be able to take
01:09:24.780
Do you see – does that seem questionable at all to you?
01:09:28.120
Do you think that there's – that seems at all deceptive or anything that your parents
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would be taking care of with the money that you're making with doing – by doing actions
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or behaving in a way that they wouldn't approve of?
01:09:39.780
As long as they're being taken care of, I think that's the main objective is to take care of
01:09:46.260
them and make sure, you know, their older age days, they live well, they're happy.
01:10:02.840
Just imagine the odds of her father accepting your OF lifestyle.
01:10:07.040
Those will be the same odds that you will land a man that will provide for you as you expect.
01:10:21.600
You should – you should check out my OF before you say that.
01:10:26.900
Wait, why would – wait, why would he have to check out your OF before you can say that?
01:10:50.500
It's like, oh, you, like, new China girl, like, engineer baby, and no, like, I'm feeling
01:10:56.440
this, you know, toxic masculinity, like, moment here.
01:11:01.560
It's like – so have you noticed who's – who's giving the comments?
01:11:10.160
Well, they've been pretty tame so far, comparatively speaking.
01:11:20.140
She is so full of sheet, 100K a month would give her a quick date of December if she was
01:11:33.760
It's – for no financial aid at all, it's, like, 40K.
01:11:43.240
It's, like, 36K, and then with, like, other stuff you spend money on, it's, like, 40K.
01:11:48.800
Okay, so you could be looking at spending, like, 100 to 150K?
01:11:54.440
So, if you can't provide for your parents right now just because of how suspicious they'll
01:12:00.680
get, how do you plan on providing for them in the future?
01:12:04.000
Well, obviously, I'll have my ways, like, for providing for them.
01:12:07.640
Right now, I'm saying I can't provide for them because the money that I'm receiving – like,
01:12:19.820
Giving them that money is also a new mountain I have to climb over to, you know, start giving
01:12:27.280
And, obviously, I've been, like, giving them gifts and whatever I can with the money that
01:12:31.840
I do get, and that's less suspicious than, oh, hey, Dad, here's 40K, right?
01:12:37.320
And in the future, when I'm – when I keep making this consistent amount of money, there's
01:12:45.940
going to be ways, like, I'm going to be able to, like, do that for them when I figure
01:12:52.140
I think the reality of the future is your parents are probably going to find out you do
01:12:55.720
OF, which is, like, whatever, but – and that's probably what it's going to be.
01:13:01.300
Maybe they come to accept it, and you and your parents can laugh all the way to the
01:13:08.720
Like, I think when you grow up being spoiled, you want to uphold that lifestyle.
01:13:12.420
And so you also want to repay your parents for, like, letting you live a comfortable
01:13:17.500
Wait, but your dad, he was – he's a Chinese national, right?
01:13:21.640
Are you full Chinese, like, your mom's Chinese, your dad's Chinese?
01:13:24.460
I mean, you're saying that the parents aren't going to accept it because I'm laughing all
01:13:32.320
I mean, isn't, like, first generation – is he a first generation immigrant?
01:13:45.020
I mean, first generation immigrants are typically pretty, like, traditional.
01:13:51.020
So I don't think even if you make a ton of money, he's probably not going to be super
01:13:58.860
It's, like, parents, like, they're different, right?
01:14:03.720
It really depends on the type of parents that you have.
01:14:06.860
For my parents, like I said earlier, they'll probably just be, like, you know, if this
01:14:13.900
is what you wanted to do, we'll support – like, we'll support you.
01:14:19.360
We'll obviously be disappointed, but we'll support you.
01:14:23.300
And because at the very end of the day, like, they're not going to be the ones dealing with
01:14:31.600
I'm dealing with the consequences, and they'll just be receiving money that I can make and
01:15:12.400
Oh, I definitely expect you guys to make jokes about the fact that I mentioned toxic masculinity,
01:15:22.060
To start off, I love men and I respect men, but the comments that started going on – guys,
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you – you just got to take into the consideration that you have never been into the shoes of
01:15:46.480
She is trying to – yeah, it's a different country.
01:15:49.660
So she's trying to change the ways I understand how an 18-year-old woman like her, she's trying
01:15:59.620
to change the whole pattern and the system that her life has been working before she became
01:16:09.940
We can just say all of those, like, funny-looking comments like,
01:16:13.320
oh, you engineer girl, okay, like, oh, you channel girl, all that bullshit, but I don't
01:16:23.980
I do not understand why those – all of those comments are coming from the men and very specific
01:16:28.700
type of men, and this specific type of men is just usually not what I respect.
01:16:35.060
It's just not the individuals that I would fuck with.
01:16:38.920
When you say fuck with, do you mean have a sexual –
01:16:40.500
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, regular meaning of fucking with, no.
01:16:45.260
It's just not the individuals that I would resonate with.
01:16:55.300
You don't fuck with Low Pal – that's their name.
01:17:17.700
Embrace the patriarchy and we will help you find your way.
01:17:33.420
Well, you definitely believe in the patriarchy, though,
01:17:38.260
And I feel like you're kind of masking this OnlyFans thing,
01:17:41.320
like, the intention of you doing OnlyFans as providing for your parents.
01:17:46.380
But I feel like your parents would be happier with you just, like, quitting right now
01:17:51.560
because you already made six figures in two months.
01:17:57.100
So that would be enough to pay for your college tuition.
01:17:59.500
But – and you getting, like, stable, like, financially stable from that and making a living for yourself through engineering,
01:18:12.140
I think your parents would be a lot more happier with that rather than me doing OnlyFans.
01:18:22.200
Because you're saying that I should go with OnlyFans, but, like – like, you're saying I should stick out engineering and continue.
01:18:40.280
Well, we're – obviously, we have different majors, right?
01:18:45.080
You're telling me to stick out with engineering.
01:18:46.720
Obviously, I want to stick out with engineering.
01:18:49.000
However, there's, like, a million people racing to do engineering.
01:18:52.100
And if I can do engineering as, like, a side, that'd be a bonus, obviously.
01:19:11.260
Engineering is the degree, like, the major that I want to achieve.
01:19:14.580
But, obviously, if I can do this right now, it's going to be a side hustle, right?
01:19:25.920
You mentioned, like, the soup chat, all the soup chatters and stuff coming in.
01:19:47.680
He's – that one's a man, but everybody else is a man.
01:19:54.920
If you already made at least $200,000 from the two months you did OnlyFans, how would engineering be a side hustle?
01:20:12.600
Those people who graduate with an engineering major get good jobs.
01:20:16.740
Wait, but, Tiffany, do you want an answer to your question?
01:20:18.640
So your question was, like, okay, if you're just trying to pay the tuition, you already made $200,000, that's your question, right?
01:20:25.140
Yeah, my question is, what's your true intention of doing OnlyFans?
01:20:28.080
Is it, like, truly to provide for your parents and pay for your tuition and make them happy, or is it, like, for yourself and wanting to become an influencer and live that lifestyle?
01:20:39.100
Well, obviously, there's, like, roads that lead up to that.
01:20:41.420
So at first, I wanted to do it to pay off my tuition and, you know, provide for my family.
01:20:46.860
And because you're posting so much on the internet and you're connecting with your audience, like I said, then it's going to start into, oh, you know what, if I'm already doing, if I'm already posting content and stuff like this, I might as well tune in to Influencer Life.
01:21:04.840
So basically, you kind of, like, compromised your values?
01:21:09.480
I feel like you're making a lot of assumptions about somebody that you don't know at all.
01:21:15.440
I mean, you're talking about her family dynamics, her personal values, her morals, her finances.
01:21:22.760
You just said, don't you think, like, your parents would think this or that?
01:21:27.320
I feel like you're really coming for this girl.
01:21:56.380
That you can bribe you, our parents, into accepting that you are a sex worker.
01:22:01.000
A good provider husband will also be dumb enough to buy it.
01:22:26.600
Stop defending this liar just because you share a gender.
01:22:30.300
She said she made a million dollars, but that was a lie.
01:22:37.900
Do you want to respond to the psychopath accusations?
01:23:23.520
Davon, you might want to see an ophthalmologist or something.
01:24:08.920
But, honestly, he's clearly not with the shirts.
01:24:24.720
Did you want to respond to Doc Van Ably, though?
01:24:29.000
You think you can bribe your parents into accepting that you are a sex worker?
01:24:32.000
A good provider husband will also be dumb enough to buy it?
01:24:43.300
Like, because I think he's maybe saying the hope here is, like, well, maybe they wouldn't
01:24:48.320
be supportive of the nature of what you're doing, but by virtue of you compensating for
01:24:54.300
that with the money that you're going to be making for yourself and then ostensibly providing
01:25:01.140
to them, giving to them, helping them, that they would accept this otherwise objectionable
01:25:11.000
Well, I don't think they're going to accept it, per se, because this is a very, you know,
01:25:19.020
explicit field of work, and obviously it damages your reputation or whatever, so they're not
01:25:26.540
However, I know that they're not going to accept it, but eventually they're going to come to
01:25:34.620
terms with, like, you know, if this is what you want, there's nothing that we can do to
01:25:39.800
stop you from doing it, because that's your life.
01:25:44.940
They, the most I'm trying to do is just help them, not bribe them.
01:25:49.580
I don't say bribe, because that sounds like I'm trying to bribe my parents to do this,
01:26:00.580
Wait, so what do you think your parents would be more happy with?
01:26:03.100
Are you sticking to engineering and quitting OF, but not providing for them, or doing OF and
01:26:12.580
The doing OF and providing for them, because at the same time, I'm going to do engineering,
01:26:17.900
So I'll have a degree by the end, which will provide me money, but I'll also be able to
01:26:23.680
But you just said that they won't be accepting of OF.
01:26:26.720
They won't be accepting of OF, but it's a better route to me personally.
01:26:32.500
Well, to you, but which one would your parents be more happy with?
01:26:36.340
Well, I don't, I think neither one they would be happy about, but.
01:26:50.060
So my question is, if you don't feel like the mechanical engineering is going to be, it's
01:26:58.680
Why not just focus your energy on becoming an influencer or something else that's more
01:27:07.120
And then maybe you wouldn't have to earn money through OnlyFans to pay off your tuition.
01:27:12.880
Because personally, I think that my parents would be more mad if I dropped out.
01:27:21.860
Well, it's, I don't know if it's like the traditional Asian, you know, stereotype or
01:27:28.760
They want you to finish school, get a degree, have that paper degree.
01:27:33.900
And it's obviously, everybody cares about the paper degree, right?
01:27:38.020
And if it's not something that I want to do, it's something that my parents want me to do.
01:27:42.340
So I'm obviously going to try and achieve what they want.
01:27:47.060
Did your parents influence your, the direction that you went with engineering?
01:27:59.920
I think it was like a gigantic push of my parents.
01:28:03.600
Engineering, doctors, they make a lot of good money.
01:28:08.460
And we want you in school for something that will make sure you live a good future so that
01:28:18.760
And then, you know, eventually it was just like, oh, maybe I should do engineering because
01:28:23.360
it makes them happy or, you know, it does provide a lot of money.
01:28:32.460
Do you think that your parents would be more proud of you earning money one way or the
01:28:36.860
More, more proud of me, like whatever way I earn money.
01:28:43.940
I just really encourage you to, I heard you say earlier that engineering is really challenging
01:28:48.740
and we're, we become better people when we go through really challenging things.
01:28:54.980
And I really, really encourage you to stick with it and even get through those hard classes
01:28:59.220
and not beat yourself up if you get a low grade and just keep on going.
01:29:03.260
Um, because I, I, um, I think it feels good when you're proud of yourself.
01:29:12.320
Like, like I said earlier, OF is my main job, but engineering, like it's a side hustle, but
01:29:20.680
it's a side hustle that I'm going to get a degree.
01:29:28.380
It's just a random question because of your, um, food content, TikTok.
01:29:38.260
The food content was actually because I was trying to copy this TikToker, Alex was his
01:29:46.460
Like he also does those food contents and I was like, like, do you think I could do that
01:29:55.220
Uh, I mean, I'm here a little late, but I'm just curious.
01:30:01.480
So, uh, how, how long have you been going to school for mechanical engineering?
01:30:12.380
And, and so you're going to be a sophomore here soon or?
01:30:20.640
So has it, has it been an entire year that you've been going to school for mechanical engineering?
01:30:48.380
First year is like the basic first year classes of math.
01:30:53.460
We don't, we haven't really gotten into any of like the actual engineering stuff.
01:31:14.940
Um, so, um, when you were, I, I, I was listening to the conversation back and forth about the, uh, the parents' approval of the OF or not, uh, just, just a very, very quick question.
01:31:40.920
And if he did know about the OF, you would be in big trouble, wouldn't you?
01:31:52.880
I do need to read a couple of the chats that came through.
01:31:55.140
We have Lucas, uh, chair two, you live in Dulululand.
01:32:04.640
Burger, bugger off with the feminist shaming tactics.
01:32:07.080
I'm married, sole, 22 years, sole provider, son, daughter, two cent, two cent brain.
01:32:16.260
Um, his question to you is, would you be okay with your daughter doing OnlyFans?
01:32:30.060
For me, it's I'm okay with my daughter doing OnlyFans because I'm doing it, right?
01:32:34.220
But if it's someone who has a daughter and they're not doing OnlyFans and her daughter's selling all that stuff online,
01:32:43.700
But even if I wasn't doing OnlyFans, I'd say I would be okay because I have the same mindset where if that's what you want to do,
01:32:53.660
then that's what you're going to do, then you're going to have to deal with it.
01:33:02.460
I'm a first generation Asian American not born in America.
01:33:05.580
I did not denigrate myself to do these kinds of things to make money.
01:33:26.380
Do you think it would be, I'm like, this conversation has come up before on the show.
01:33:32.480
Because right now I'm still unsure of how to tell him.
01:33:38.720
There's obviously been plans of telling him and my family in general.
01:33:52.400
Because his daughter is selling her body online.
01:33:57.540
And do you think any father ever wants that for their daughter?
01:34:03.520
You know why he's going to be upset more than anything?
01:34:16.820
I think that perhaps this is a problematic idea in modernity for many women, but you can't buy a sense of family pride.
01:34:31.080
And when you're talking about shame, men will pass on millions of dollars if it's from something that is shameful.
01:34:38.660
For instance, if somebody offered to pay a man to sleep with his wife and was willing to give him $2 million, they're going to say no, right?
01:34:52.000
Is somebody asking to sleep with her in real life?
01:35:07.780
It's analogous because we're talking about money.
01:35:18.200
I just feel like it's inappropriate to be discussing, like, the dynamics of someone else's family, like I said previously.
01:35:25.960
I just think, to me, like, if someone were to bring up my...
01:35:33.920
So anyway, so back to where I was at before I was so rudely interrupted.
01:35:38.680
I'd like to jump back into this and just tell you about the idea of shame.
01:36:10.540
In my mind right now, I just want to be able to provide for them.
01:36:17.120
Yes, this way that I'm doing what I want to do is not logically or, like, accepted in our generation.
01:36:33.340
Like, I think if that's how you want to make your money, then just do it.
01:36:42.840
If your dad was a hitman for the mob, and he said, I just do that to support my family,
01:36:49.060
would you tell him, you know, Dad, I'd prefer you didn't do that to support your family?
01:36:55.540
Yeah, I think if there was a significant amount of pressure, social pressure, from your family unit,
01:37:01.460
that it tends to change behavior, just like if you have a family member who's an alcoholic,
01:37:05.300
or a family member who's a drug addict, or things like this,
01:37:08.440
I think your family tends to care about your future a lot,
01:37:10.800
and they apply significant amounts of pressure to get you to stop and modify bad behavior.
01:37:15.560
And this is why people tend to conceal bad behavior from their family, right?
01:37:18.800
Because they know that they're going to do that.
01:37:19.960
Well, if it gets to a point where there's a lot of family pressure,
01:37:24.520
and they really, really want me to quit after, say, a couple, a year,
01:37:29.500
they still encourage that I quit, then I will do that.
01:37:36.520
I just think you're kind of masking this OnlyFans career as something you're doing for your family
01:37:45.660
Bob Evans, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.
01:37:52.220
We need to get through a couple other chats here.
01:37:56.920
It's that orthodox toxic masculinity that's keeping your country on the map
01:38:00.600
while you're shamelessly spouting off your vapid nonsense and comfort, respect.
01:38:06.800
My wife is 100 times the woman you are, 100 times hotter.
01:38:17.980
Yeah, because Al was the one who started that show.
01:38:28.800
At the moment, the Ukrainians are persecuting orthodox Christians in their nation.
01:38:36.360
It's a huge political crisis, and we should probably avoid it, to be honest with you, Brian.
01:38:46.180
So you're just going to get a degree and not even use it and just going to become an influencer with your OF simps.
01:38:51.720
Yeah, that's just trying to cover up her being a sex worker and getting an easy way out.
01:38:59.700
I never said I wasn't going to use my engineering degree.
01:39:03.160
I would use it if I had to use it, but if I had other ways, like becoming an influencer, being a big influencer, and that was my income, then I would just get that degree to make my parents happy.
01:39:20.320
By the way, guys, there's a slight delay on some of the messages coming through.
01:39:23.580
There's some stuff going on with Streamlabs and just some moderation that we're having to do on our end.
01:39:34.100
Stop with your everyone is special talking point.
01:39:36.440
You have a duty to your family name, to your future children, respect your lineage.
01:39:40.540
I'd rather live the rest of my life in ignominy.
01:39:59.760
Just ask her the first derivative of 2X and then second derivative of 2X.
01:40:05.680
The first derivative of 2X is 2, and there is no second derivative of 2X.
01:40:27.020
This is probably the first time anyone has ever questioned her on anything.
01:40:45.360
It's just, honestly, it's not even interesting to respond.
01:40:55.720
People become engineers to be rich, and you're skipping a step.
01:40:58.880
And just because everyone doesn't agree with how you do it doesn't mean it's wrong.
01:41:02.480
We all have our own journeys to go through in life.
01:41:26.680
Some go through completely degenerate and horrific journeys and do horrible things to themselves and other people.
01:41:32.820
And then other people go through journeys where they don't do that.
01:41:35.140
So my preference is, in the society that I live, is that people don't do the latter.
01:41:46.360
Well, that's it for the little super chat and messaging break.
01:41:59.220
He says, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10, starting with you.
01:42:17.940
Is this the entire dating pool from age 14 to 80?
01:42:26.440
Yeah, I would take a general sampling of all of the women who are inside of the United States who are adults, right?
01:42:33.460
And we would, you can envision the question this way if it's easier for you.
01:42:40.760
And there's 100 men, and they're all going to give you a rating based on that average of all the women who exist who are adults in the United States.
01:42:49.380
And whatever that medium is, 1 to 10, is where you're going to place yourself.
01:42:56.860
What would have your answer have been before that clarification?
01:43:01.920
At the table, a three of women my own age, a six.
01:43:50.540
Lol paladins donated two hundred dollars and two cents.
01:44:04.620
You think, so you think it's objectively true that ten being the most handsome men who exist
01:44:10.020
on planet Earth, that I'm in that same category?
01:44:21.760
Objectively, then I am, you think objectively that I am on par with the most handsome men
01:44:28.520
I have to see you standing up in person in front of me, but off the confidence, I'll give
01:44:37.340
You know, the thing we're judging, which has nothing to do with the confidence, because
01:44:48.460
So I'm about to, well, you know, it's nice to hear that I am amongst the gods, the Greek
01:44:54.420
gods amongst men, the chiseled statues which remained of the abs and the, you know, the
01:45:05.240
I'm glad that you agree that I am in that category.
01:45:09.200
If we were rating confidence, that's a totally different scale.
01:45:29.060
Well, okay, so what makes, what even makes the statement truth act?
01:45:44.620
A random sampling of men, and you're going to go down this walkway, and they all can hold
01:45:50.520
up a sign one to ten to rate you, and you're going to go off of whatever the medium is of
01:45:55.820
You honestly think that they're going to rate you a ten?
01:45:57.740
That that's what the average answer is going to be?
01:46:18.640
Well, the thing is, is like, I don't really understand why people scoff at that, because
01:46:29.600
And I think that being put in the category of average doesn't mean that you're plain
01:46:37.140
I think it can be, you're very good-looking as an average-looking woman, right?
01:46:42.040
Below average would be like, oh, very obese, you know, things like this.
01:46:46.380
All the things which you compare endlessly yourself to when you're comparing yourself to
01:46:50.840
You know what an average-looking woman looks like.
01:46:54.080
But for some reason, this has become some kind of grave insult to just say, hey, you look
01:47:01.560
But I don't, I don't know, I don't know why, why there has to be this beauty-a-thon where
01:47:06.440
everybody has to be amongst the most beautiful women on planet Earth, which by the way, that
01:47:10.820
whatever podcast has the most beautiful women on it on planet Earth, all you have to do is
01:47:16.760
I mean, we, as can be evidenced by the panel I've collected today.
01:47:28.780
So the way that I feel like this topic or conversation relates to outcomes makes me
01:47:37.340
think of this documentary or docu-series that was on Netflix several years ago.
01:47:42.260
It was called The Science of Sex Appeal or something like that.
01:47:46.880
And one of the research experiments that they did is they had 10 men and 10 women, and they
01:47:53.980
were all, like, maybe they were all dressed in black or all dressed in white, and they had
01:47:58.820
They were just very, they were dressed to be neutral human figures.
01:48:02.720
And each woman had a card taped to her head, one through 10, and each man had a card taped
01:48:13.560
And the point of the game was to try to pair with somebody, one man, one woman, and try
01:48:22.380
And obviously everybody starts to want to try to match with eight, nines, and tens until
01:48:31.640
the eight, nines, and tens don't match with you.
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And then you start to accept lower and lower so that you can get the highest number, so
01:48:42.560
Yeah, so this is, I've seen this experiment done.
01:48:48.560
But this is a basic sociological experiment, very similar to the werewolf and village experiment,
01:48:54.040
It's the same type of game, which applied to kind of figure out delusion or non-delusion.
01:49:00.320
Um, I haven't, I haven't heard of that one specifically, but I've heard of games, which
01:49:06.480
And so ultimately though, you find out that a lot of people were very delusional about
01:49:10.840
that, what they thought that number was, don't you?
01:49:25.180
Um, I want all of you to rate me on this, and I will not be offended.
01:49:54.840
The 10 over here is lying, or not, uh, laughing, by the way.
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But if I'm allowed to say a little more, when I first saw you today in person.
01:50:13.320
Um, I had a feeling that in the past, you had a lower self-esteem that you have right
01:50:22.440
I have no idea about, like, your biography or anything.
01:50:26.500
Wait, pull up, pull up my old Instagram photos, but go ahead.
01:50:30.620
That's, that's what I sense, that in the past, you probably felt less attractive than
01:50:38.140
And right now, that's, for me personally, it's a solid eight.
01:50:47.060
Just because, like, that's what you, like, that's, that was your vision when you first
01:50:57.060
Maybe I'm completely wrong, but that's my impression.
01:51:46.780
You're a six, but I also wanted to add that when I think of the scale one through 10,
01:51:50.440
sometimes I've, I've heard people describe the scale one through 10, like nine to 10 is
01:51:58.280
But when it comes to averages, that's not how bell curves work.
01:52:01.220
There's a lot more people that live in the four to six zone.
01:52:05.340
Like when it, when it comes to like a standard deviation at zero, you're about 66% of the
01:52:10.700
people are going to, are going to be within the, that middle average.
01:52:38.700
To the, to the girl who rated you a nine, I have to ask, um, can you describe for me
01:52:48.280
Why would I talk about, why would I describe an ugly woman?
01:52:54.060
Can you, can you describe to me though what an ugly woman looks like?
01:52:56.240
Did you just, like you do, you do agree that there are some women who on the, on the
01:53:00.640
No, I don't think any woman on this planet are ugly.
01:53:02.640
So then, so then your standard is that there's no such thing as anybody who's a, so a person
01:53:09.200
can be in a burn victim, ward, half their face is melted off.
01:53:16.580
Like, this person is still, you consider them to be physically attractive.
01:53:24.680
You consider him, you consider Quasimodo physically attractive to you?
01:53:27.700
Honestly, if he can be the lead in a Disney movie, then he is attractive.
01:53:36.440
I think beauty is in the eye, like you have to think about it.
01:53:42.120
So I'm asking what is the least beautiful type of person you can describe?
01:53:51.300
Like, I think if you're a bad person, you're ugly.
01:53:53.320
Yeah, but what about their physical characteristics, not their emotional or innate characteristics?
01:53:58.780
Like, let's say a person was in a coma and had never spoken a word their entire life,
01:54:04.560
So you had no idea what their personality was like.
01:54:06.820
You could only see what they physically looked like.
01:54:09.160
Inside of that situation, the person who physically looked the worst would look like what?
01:54:16.680
I don't even, like, I don't even know how to answer that.
01:54:21.300
Like, why are we thinking, why not think about pretty things?
01:54:27.240
Well, because in order to think about what is pretty, I think that you have to have the
01:54:30.460
other end of the standard, which is what is not pretty.
01:54:32.640
And so I'm asking you what a thing which is not pretty in a person looks like physically.
01:54:38.580
Otherwise, how can we judge a standard, for instance?
01:54:41.740
How can I judge your standard for what beautiful is if you can't tell me the other end of it,
01:54:47.000
How can I ever judge your standard as being something which is in any way, shape, or form
01:54:56.360
Well, can I just say what I find attractive about Brian?
01:55:03.860
Now, how about you tell me what you find unattractive about him?
01:55:10.360
My brain, like, is at a point where, like, attractiveness is really just based on, like,
01:55:15.740
Like, would you ask this question to Stevie Wonder?
01:55:21.900
I would ask him, what does a beautiful woman look like?
01:55:23.900
And he'd be like, well, I think, you know, he would dive into, you know, oh, I'm guessing
01:55:29.720
that she has a voluptuous bosom and a nice rounded hiney and all sorts of different things
01:55:34.760
that I'm sure Stevie Wonder would say, as my understanding was that Stevie Wonder had a
01:55:49.900
So, you have really, really high standards for the type of men you will date, right?
01:55:55.580
And so, then we rule out all the types of men you won't date.
01:55:59.020
What do the types of men you don't date look like, by chance?
01:56:14.660
I guess for my preference, I don't like guys with blonde hair that much.
01:56:19.900
Even though my first kiss was a blonde guy, but I want to have a tall, dark stallion.
01:56:35.420
When you were younger, you looked a little bit childish.
01:56:39.840
But why do I have to answer what I find unattractive?
01:56:48.660
So, you would consider them to be unattractive?
01:56:52.240
Now, can you tell me what would be an unattractive standard for a woman?
01:57:00.440
How can you say what's unattractive in men, but not women?
01:57:03.180
How would you ever judge what a beauty standard is?
01:57:05.380
How could you endlessly compare yourself to women if you can't even tell me what an unattractive
01:57:17.580
Just tell me, what does an unattractive woman look like?
01:57:20.160
I don't compare myself to other women, first of all.
01:57:24.840
You're the only one on planet Earth who's never compared yourself to another woman.
01:57:28.820
I mean, I wouldn't say never, but I just feel like an unattractive woman is, like, a really
01:57:39.420
Like, I feel like, obviously, there's conventional beauty standards.
01:57:43.820
So, of course, like, we, as women, do things to make ourselves more attractive conventionally,
01:57:52.180
Yeah, but how would you know what that was unless you were comparing yourself to other
01:57:57.600
See, that's a totally honest answer that I can respect.
01:58:01.880
I understand saying, I compare myself to other women.
01:58:04.980
That's how I know what the conventional beauty standard is.
01:58:07.280
And that's how I know what's attractive or unattractive.
01:58:10.120
So, I'm guessing from your position, for instance, a woman who is, like, 300 pounds
01:58:14.920
and 5'6", you would probably rule out as being particularly attractive, right?
01:58:18.700
Yes, but I do think that, like, in this day and age, there's so much that you can do to
01:58:25.620
Like, you could start off ugly and overweight, and you can do a lot to yourself to make yourself
01:58:32.860
I'm not disputing that you can't change physical characteristics to make yourself more
01:58:37.960
All I'm asking is what an unattractive woman looks like.
01:58:45.460
I'm big on teeth, so, like, mess up teeth, you know, acne, skin.
01:58:51.880
I think unhygienic, like, hygiene is a big factor of attractiveness to me.
01:58:59.060
So, that would be, like, clean nails, clean teeth, shower, odor.
01:59:03.900
Those things also play a role in appearing attractive, I believe.
01:59:08.480
But, of course, you know, like, do your hair, your makeup, your nails.
01:59:13.060
And, you know, everybody has different levels of, do they want a full beat on their face
01:59:18.600
of makeup, or do they just want, like, a little something, you know?
01:59:21.320
But, like, I think, yeah, that would be probably my answer.
01:59:25.020
Okay, so, if a woman fit the, those criteria for what you consider to be unattractive, and
01:59:31.800
let me just make sure I can go through the list, which I think is a reasonable list, obesity,
01:59:36.520
not very hygienic, which I think if you're, if you're highly obese, usually you're not
01:59:51.120
Yeah, lots of acne on the face, uh, really bad teeth, right?
01:59:55.760
All of these different things, gross hair, you consider all those to be the qualities of
02:00:01.380
Uh, so, so I would tend to agree that that's true.
02:00:04.980
So, would you say if one of those women, then, called themselves a 10, that they were delusional?
02:00:13.340
And to the 10, would you say that a woman had those characteristics?
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And said that she was a 10, would she be delusional?
02:00:24.280
Yeah, but it's okay to live in delusion if you, it's not hurting me if you believe, if
02:00:28.820
you are conventionally unattractive and believe you're a 10.
02:00:40.540
No, I would prefer to live in reality, but like.
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Don't you think most people, well, if people live in delusion.
02:00:45.080
But it's also not my job to go up to someone who believes that they're a 10 and be like,
02:00:50.100
Yeah, but don't delusional people affect reality with their delusions?
02:00:55.520
I mean, that's literally why we lock delusional people up.
02:00:58.660
I feel like in a place like LA, if you believe you're a 10 and you are clearly not a 10, reality
02:01:03.660
is going to hit you like a brick wall, especially in California.
02:01:09.360
But back over to the 10, just time the answer from you, would you say that if a woman met
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all those criteria for what she considered unattractive, that, and this person called
02:01:19.140
themselves a 10, that they would be delusional?
02:01:20.740
I would say they're very confident and they, you know, delulu is sometimes a salulu.
02:01:30.820
If that helps you go through the day, you thinking you're a 10, then more power to you.
02:01:40.200
They're living in their world and it's like, they're not hurting anyone.
02:01:51.620
Yeah, but how do they change those things if you let them live in that delusion?
02:01:59.020
How do they change those things if you let them live in delusion?
02:02:04.580
If they want to live that lifestyle, that's for them.
02:02:09.460
Maybe answer the question I ask instead of the one I'm not asking.
02:02:14.500
How does a woman who has all those characteristics but says she's a 10 and is living in delusion
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by your metric, how does she change these things if nobody ever tells her that she's delusional?
02:02:31.660
How does she change these things if no one tells her she's delusional?
02:02:42.300
Do you think that a person, because you remember how the gal, I guess from your perspective, would be to my left in red?
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So to the gal to my right in the red, remember how she said, and I agree with this, and I think you do too,
02:03:04.040
that people can have all sorts of unattractive traits and change them.
02:03:09.460
They can change them so that they can actually become more attractive and live more fulfilled lives.
02:03:14.540
How can they do that if you let them live in delusion?
02:03:18.620
I think that there's a gentle way to say if you're severely overweight, you can come at it less from a superficial perspective of the aesthetics of it,
02:03:31.720
and more so like, hey girl, you want to come to the gym with me?
02:03:35.780
You want to go get sweet green for lunch instead of whatever you're eating?
02:03:41.740
So as it turns out, it's not good to let them live in delusion.
02:03:46.960
So you said earlier when you said, wait, they're not hurting anybody, so what's the problem?
02:03:55.260
What's the problem with letting them live in delusion?
02:03:57.560
When you get to the heart of it, it looks like there's quite a big problem with letting them live in delusion.
02:04:01.600
And you would say, hey girl, let's go get a salad so that you can burn some of that fat off your body, right?
02:04:10.860
Apparently you see it as being a problem as well.
02:04:15.040
I think it's only a problem if it's somebody that, it's a problem to me if it's somebody that I love and care about because then there can be like, there can be like actual like risks and health issues involved with that.
02:04:28.380
But if it's just like a random person on the street who lives in delusion, like that's not really affecting me.
02:04:33.300
But if it's someone that I love and care about, of course I would like, you know, try and encourage them to.
02:04:37.200
Isn't that a great cruelty if somebody is living in delusion and you're just unwilling to tell them that they're being delusional because you don't want to hurt their feelings?
02:04:50.440
Isn't that the cruelest thing that you can do to a person is lie to them about their delusion?
02:04:57.340
I'm just like ignoring people on the street that I don't know.
02:05:06.220
And I'm guessing that if somebody were to say –
02:05:07.740
Do you walk up to fat people on the street and tell them that they need to lose weight?
02:05:11.160
Well, if somebody was walking down the street and said to a woman – let's say that she had a sign that said, I'm a beautiful 10 and she had all these unattractive qualities.
02:05:20.420
And a guy walked over to her and went, no, you're not.
02:05:22.820
You're ugly as sin because this, this, this, and this, and this, right?
02:05:34.240
How could these people change this if he never – if nobody ever tells him?
02:05:40.160
There's a difference between being rude and constructive criticism.
02:05:47.840
What if the constructive criticism never jars a person out of the delusion, but if rudeness does?
02:05:53.700
So if somebody walks by and they're like, no, all these people are lying to you.
02:06:01.700
And here's the things you need to change and then you will be beautiful, right?
02:06:07.960
Well, I'll give you an analogy since you love analogies.
02:06:13.100
So Lady Gaga was arguably incredibly delusional when she went to NYU Tisch.
02:06:19.300
My brother went to Tisch, so he knows a little bit of the back story of Lady Gaga, a.k.a.
02:06:25.880
There was – I guess she was super annoying in the program.
02:06:33.320
She was super annoying and she would tell everybody she's going to be famous and that that's all she wanted to do was be famous.
02:06:41.000
They actually created a Facebook group at NYU called Stephanie So-and-So You Will Never Be Famous about Lady Gaga.
02:06:47.080
And clearly, she was delusional enough and manifested that delusion into her current reality.
02:06:55.740
So, you know, I do think that people are very quick to call a lot of people delusional, but there is also a sense of delusion and, I mean, maybe believing in yourself can be called delusional.
02:07:10.000
So I think it's a very subjective – but I think it's very subjective.
02:07:14.320
When you utilize an outlier, like you say, one chick in a hundred million was able to become a massive pop star sensation, which is never going to happen to any of you at this table.
02:07:28.960
It's never going to happen to anybody that you know likely, right?
02:07:31.500
I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's just the likelihood of it is not great, right?
02:07:36.620
You're not going to become a Lady Gaga success story tomorrow, and if you did, it would be extraordinary.
02:07:43.340
It would be like getting hit by lightning twice.
02:07:47.960
So when you appeal to an outlier and you say, but some women can be delusional or some men can be delusional and still have good outcomes, I wouldn't even argue that that's true.
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But for the vast, vast majority of people, that's clearly not true.
02:08:00.720
And it still seems to me that it would be a great disservice to pretend that a person is X just to feed into their delusion, especially if you think that telling them they could make those improvements so they could get there.
02:08:13.560
Like, for instance, maybe there's a lot of things there that we're not thinking about with Lady Gaga.
02:08:18.200
Maybe people told her things like, hey, you need to stop doing this, or maybe you need to get this tummy tuck, or maybe you need to get this boob job, or you have to do A, B, C, and D in order to be in this industry at all.
02:08:28.960
And I'm sure she had to do all sorts of changes to break these delusions, right?
02:08:33.700
So, yeah, I'm guessing even from the case of what you're talking about, there still had to be some delusion breaking.
02:08:41.440
But isn't that ultimately the least cruel thing you can do, is tell people what the truth is so that they can take care of these problems?
02:08:51.860
I don't know. Someone else want to talk about that?
02:08:53.280
Like, here, I'll give you a really good example, really good example.
02:08:56.320
Let's say a man is really attractive to you, to the ten, but he's broke, right?
02:09:04.740
Would you give him the advice that if he wanted to date you, he could go make more money?
02:09:12.480
You would, so you think he's delusional for wanting to date you with no money, and you're willing to tell him the truth so that then he can improve his situation to get the thing that he wants, right?
02:09:26.320
I mean, if he asked, but I wouldn't say it, like, unsolicited, but I would say it is slightly delusional, but that's okay.
02:09:33.020
DeLulu can be the DeLulu. Maybe he'll find someone that doesn't care about how much money he makes, and that is okay.
02:09:46.380
Quasimodo in the Disney movie got friend-zoned, and Esmeralda ended up dating the six-foot-tall chat hero soldier.
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Even poor Quasimodo would be called an incel by the feminist.
02:09:59.640
Wait, there's so much to unpack here. I don't even know who these people are.
02:10:10.620
You said that the Hunchback was extremely attractive because he was the lead in an animated Disney movie.
02:10:18.200
Okay, wait, sorry. Can you go back to that? I need to read that one more time.
02:10:30.700
Quasimodo in the Disney movie got friend-zoned, and Esmeralda ended up dating the six-foot-tall chat hero soldier.
02:10:38.040
Even poor Quasimodo would be called an incel by the feminist.
02:10:44.540
We have to do a bit of a moderation for tonight's show on everything, but...
02:10:52.040
So, I don't blame her for choosing the six-foot guy, and if she found him unattractive, that is...
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Describing an ugly woman doesn't mean that you can't find beauty in that woman.
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Finding beauty in everyone takes work, but denying unattractiveness is delusions.
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I can actually form this into the easiest way possible.
02:11:25.600
How many of you here have ever been on a dating app?
02:11:34.320
You've never been on a dating app in your life, huh?
02:11:38.420
You've never been online and seen men who you have chatted with for dates ever?
02:11:49.000
And you don't know anything about these people, right?
02:11:55.460
You've got a show of hands if you've ever rejected a guy based on their picture.
02:12:06.240
So somehow, somehow we're able to ascertain attraction here.
02:12:12.860
But also, I would not match with a fish picture.
02:12:20.840
Wait, you wouldn't date a guy who's holding up a fish?
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Like holding up a fish in your dating app picture.
02:12:48.180
Also, like, do you think I'm going to be impressed by the fish?
02:13:03.080
You kind of told on yourself there a little bit.
02:13:04.880
You said, how are you trying to impress me with a fish?
02:13:16.860
They're trying to convey to you a thing about them that they are very proud of this thing
02:13:37.120
But it's still worth noting as we're talking about relationship dynamics that we're talking
02:13:43.120
about the distinction in perceptions of people.
02:13:45.800
I don't think that men post pictures of them having just killed a deer or holding up a
02:13:51.400
fish or them in the outdoors to convey to you with grunting, me, make big fish, now we
02:14:01.400
I think the point is that they're just trying to convey what they're about.
02:14:07.780
Wait, and really quick on the fish thing, just show of hands, who else here, if the guy
02:14:35.900
Wait, you're saying, okay, I didn't know this, but are you saying that there's an actual
02:14:41.740
cheat code for men to rule out horrible fucking women by just posting a picture of them with
02:14:50.220
They can just rule out horrible women by just posting a picture of them with fish?
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I know who did that, and it just didn't end up well.
02:15:04.460
Okay, and then you seem to be on the fence on this, into the mic.
02:15:10.800
I mean, it's just, I understand what you're talking about, because most of the fishing
02:15:22.880
I understand what you're talking about, but if it's the fish picture with the guy in whose
02:15:30.780
eyes it can just look and understand that, okay, I'm interested in that face.
02:15:35.040
I, I, he's not looking scary, he's not looking unattractive to me, I can still swipe, right?
02:15:55.060
Because sometimes those fishing pictures, they, oh, it's hard to explain.
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Um, sometimes they show automatically the, a very low income, and it's not about stereotype,
02:16:15.060
It's just sometimes it's a very shitty taken picture.
02:16:17.620
It's the guy just looking, you know, he's, he's, he's dressed in a very messy, weird clothes,
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and he's just like, you know, and it looks unattractive to me personally.
02:16:27.540
Okay, let me, let me, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, let me simplify this
02:16:35.920
And he's holding a fish, is it still a problem?
02:16:40.140
So it's the, it has nothing to do with the fish picture then?
02:16:44.040
So your criticism is not, it's about poorly taken photos?
02:17:02.960
Okay, so is there a objection to the fish picture or that they're poorly taken?
02:17:15.520
So if it's not about the hobby of, but it's about taking a picture and put it and the,
02:17:27.240
Usually the situation with the fishing picture is that them, first of all, the way it is taken.
02:17:36.680
Yeah, sometimes it's, it's a very weird way of taking this picture.
02:17:41.920
Sometimes it's, it's a very bad quality of the picture.
02:17:44.800
Okay, so if the quality of the picture is good and it's a fish picture, 100% okay, no issue with it.
02:17:56.360
So to solve this problem, all a man needs to do is get his trophy bass out of the river,
02:18:03.380
run down, get his hair cut real quick and his beard trim, and then go over and have professional
02:18:08.580
studio grade quality backgrounds put up, look into the camera with full makeup and hold
02:18:13.780
the fish up without any waders on at all, and he's going to be in good shape then.
02:18:17.920
I don't really like the fish pics that are taken in like the local creek.
02:18:21.800
I want the big fish in the middle of the ocean.
02:18:37.820
Here, let me do a chat, but I'll come back to this.
02:18:40.560
North Alberta kid, girl in chair one, clear skin is a good feature, physical attractiveness,
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yes, would you care to remove your makeup for the rest of the show?
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Girls, state your opinions without saying, I feel like.
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I don't want to remove my makeup because the whole point is to make me more attractive
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because I'm self-aware enough and not delusional enough to know that in order to make myself
02:19:08.700
And then going around the table, kind of wrapping up on the rating question.
02:19:14.380
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you?
02:19:24.000
Like, I feel like I'm in my prime right now, but like, I don't feel it will be a drastic
02:19:29.820
I'm very open to cosmetic injections, treatments, whatever, at that age.
02:19:36.980
And then are you better looking now at 25 than you were at 18?
02:19:41.580
Going to you, you're 18, will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 28?
02:19:50.760
And obviously, like, a lot of models and people who are older, they do look amazing, but I
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think that, like, there's like a time where you look the best.
02:20:06.180
Okay, so you're, yeah, so you're 21, so you'll be better looking at 31?
02:20:20.520
Yeah, I will be looking better in 31 than in 21 right now.
02:20:28.180
I will feel even more comfortable in my own skin.
02:20:36.760
I will be even more committed to the routines related to the fit body and all the things
02:20:44.980
that I will take air of regarding my health and my shape, and also I just see the great
02:20:52.760
examples already of the women that were not as committed to their own well-being in their
02:20:59.320
20s, and now they're like 34, and they're so much hotter, so I'm striving for that.
02:21:06.760
You are 41, better looking in 10 years' time at 51?
02:21:10.120
No, I think I peaked at 32, and so I think you're spot on with your assessment.
02:21:14.980
And so you're 41, so you were better looking at 30, 10 years ago at 31?
02:21:19.880
And then were you better looking at 21 than you are now at 41?
02:21:28.340
Yes, but I think I was better looking at 31 than I was at 21.
02:21:44.980
Compared to, like, 39 compared to 29, or 19 and...
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Okay, 30 years' time, better looking at 49 versus now at 19.
02:22:22.180
Of all those, where do you think you'll be the best looking?
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Because I'd have a nose drop by then, and I'd be skinnier.
02:23:00.240
I don't think getting the nose drop, though, at 29 is gonna make you more attractive at
02:23:12.060
You cited to the nose drop as the reason why you will be more attractive at 29.
02:23:17.660
If you had the nose drop now, would you be more attractive now at 19 than you?
02:23:24.980
I just don't have the funds right now to get a nose drop.
02:23:27.920
So you're saying the deciding factor there is the nose drop?
02:23:35.480
When you're older, you have more money to invest in your beauty.
02:24:17.100
Okay, I think I might be a little bit wrinkly and discrepant.
02:24:26.600
And are you more attractive now at 25 than you were at 18?
02:24:30.820
Going to you, you're 35, better looking in 10 years' time?
02:24:34.520
And then you're 35, but were you better looking at 25 10 years ago?
02:24:40.420
You're 30, better looking in 10 years' time at 40?
02:24:43.720
And then you're 30, were you better looking at 20 than you are now at 30?
02:24:58.620
Discord, if you guys can do the age advancement on everybody.
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That's when you're going to be the most babe status.
02:25:15.500
I went through each one, and you're like, yes, more attractive at 59.
02:25:20.360
It stopped at 60, and then at 70, I would look at 19.
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I know exactly what I'm going to look like in 19 years,
02:26:14.300
Keep an eye on the Discord so we can get the age advancement pulled up while we're.
02:26:26.500
Really quick, though, before we do that, Low Paladins had the chat.
02:26:28.680
My ex used to take dozens to hundreds of selfies a week.
02:26:31.380
I used to take about two to three selfies per year.
02:26:33.420
These women spent too much time on Instagram and Snapchat and TikTok with filters distorting reality.
02:26:47.260
All those, like, the AIs getting into the picture now.
02:27:35.780
You look like, you kind of look Native American all of a sudden.
02:28:21.500
Really quick, just kind of like going back on the topic.
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My dad would beat the shit out of me and kick me out of the house.
02:29:02.020
What would you say is the stereotypical difference between Vietnamese and Chinese culture?
02:29:06.740
I guess there isn't much of a stereotypical, like, difference.
02:29:09.960
But, once again, it's really just how your parents are.
02:29:16.060
Your parents could be less strict on you, or your parents could be more strict on you.
02:29:22.520
They could eventually come to terms with what you do, and some parents won't.
02:29:36.800
I think my parents are Asian, but they're not that traditional.
02:29:45.500
Before we get into the next topic, why don't we pull up Twitch really quick?
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Guys, you got to go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
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Also, if you're enjoying the stream, like the video, please.
02:30:24.540
Guys, we're trying to get to 100,000 followers before the end of the year.
02:30:30.540
So maybe help try to drop us a follow, guys, and really appreciate it.
02:30:49.100
And also like the video if you guys are enjoying the stream.
02:30:55.800
Let's get into some more of the pre-show notes.
02:30:58.260
I do actually want to ask this because you brought up toxic masculinity.
02:31:12.660
I'm a very strong believer in the fact that men and women, they really need each other,
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that we need to harmonize the overall relationship between each other as genders.
02:31:25.980
As to the toxic masculinity or femininity, I believe that both of the terms are about
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this or that gender trying to bring another one down in this or that way.
02:31:58.740
That didn't tell us anything about what toxic masculinity is.
02:32:01.860
You just said that you're a complementarian and you think that men and women need to complement
02:32:06.280
That does not tell us what toxic masculinity is, though.
02:32:13.400
I said that either toxic masculinity or femininity is about one gender bringing another one down
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This is what bringing another gender down is about for me.
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I saw individuals being targeted in those comments, not genders of people.
02:32:42.760
I saw individuals who were being addressed, not genders.
02:32:45.520
Did you see somebody say all women or women X or did you see individuals being addressed?
02:32:52.280
Individuals were being addressed, but would those people address those individuals the same
02:33:02.280
So that would be toxic femininity, wouldn't it?
02:33:05.560
Because the example there is that you're bringing down the entirety of men who are making
02:33:11.460
those comments and by literally making the false assumption that they're only doing that
02:33:16.740
because you're women and not because they're addressing you, the woman, specifically what
02:33:21.820
Wouldn't you be engaging in toxic femininity by your own standard because you're judging men
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collectively based off of commenters who addressed individuals?
02:33:30.800
That was a gesture of the toxic masculinity from a very specific individual, but I'm not
02:33:39.860
You're saying that it's toxic masculinity, right?
02:33:43.080
That they are literally talking to only individuals because you applied it to an entire gender.
02:33:49.020
You said, no, I'm not going to apply it to individuals.
02:33:54.020
You're being toxic, so in other words, these people are engaging in toxic masculinity because
02:34:02.780
However, they only addressed individuals and not women collectively.
02:34:07.000
So you would be engaging in toxic femininity by saying that, right?
02:34:10.240
All right, this is your perspective, but what exactly I meant by my statement is that specifically
02:34:19.920
those comments that we saw that were given to this lady right here on the left, that was
02:34:26.120
a gesture of the toxic masculinity for me because such words as like, oh, Chinese girl, oh, engineer,
02:34:33.980
baby, those motherfuckers would not say it about the men doing OnlyFence and doing engineering
02:34:41.400
You're generalizing and saying because they're women, X is happening.
02:34:46.620
That would be a generalization about a gender, so therefore toxic femininity.
02:34:54.760
You definitely are reversing it in the way that resonates with you, but I don't believe that
02:35:02.960
You said if it's a generalization about a gender collectively against another, that
02:35:10.760
By you saying that women are being collectively assaulted, even though an individual is being
02:35:17.020
addressed, that would be toxic femininity by your definition, right?
02:35:20.720
If the woman is bringing a man down, relying on his gender, this is a toxic femininity.
02:35:31.820
If the man does the same thing, it's a toxic masculinity.
02:35:36.040
Yeah, but if women are bringing down women, that would also be toxic femininity, right?
02:35:42.060
So then if that's the case, when you apply that a comment towards an individual is applied
02:35:48.020
You're making a generalization about a gender, so that would be toxic femininity, right?
02:35:52.180
I don't understand at what point I used the generalization when I described the action
02:36:02.460
You say that these people are only making the comments because they're women, because
02:36:07.840
So that person only made this comment because she's a woman.
02:36:14.160
You're only doing X because they're women, so that would be toxic femininity, right?
02:36:24.040
I would love to agree with you, but I don't see it this way, no.
02:36:27.560
If it's just a generalization, a negative generalized stereotype about a gender, right, then how is
02:36:35.780
it not negative to apply what's said to an individual to an entire gender?
02:36:40.020
So you're saying, he's not saying that to you, Tracy, let's say the fictitious name is
02:36:45.480
Tracy, he's not saying that to you because you suck.
02:36:48.460
He's saying that to you because you're a woman.
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That's a generalization about a gender, therefore would be toxic femininity by your standard,
02:37:04.800
Would you agree that the same person who left that comment together with $200?
02:37:14.580
Would he say something similar if there was a guy here saying just the same things?
02:37:24.320
So what you're doing is you're saying collectively, right, women are X and collectively men are
02:37:32.080
So men are not going to make these comments if these are men over here.
02:37:36.320
They're only going to make these comments if they're women.
02:37:38.080
That is you making a general negative statement about men, therefore toxic femininity.
02:37:42.700
No, this is not about me making a statement about all the men.
02:37:48.440
No, I'm talking about a very specific individual.
02:37:50.700
Well, if you say that men are not going to make these comments if there's other men there,
02:37:54.360
they're only making the comments because there's women, that's a negative stereotype about men.
02:37:57.820
Okay, now I understand what you are getting at.
02:38:05.080
I hope you can just understand that I was talking about the personalities, sharing those
02:38:16.200
And there is not any man who would leave that comment, you know?
02:38:25.920
I'm talking about one person showing that toxic masculinity by trying to bring her down.
02:38:33.020
You're saying that it's only because they're men that they're saying this only because they're women, yes?
02:38:42.260
Because if they were not men and were women, they would not be saying that, correct?
02:38:49.060
That's not what I said, but I understand your point.
02:38:52.860
If these men who made the comment, right, were women, do you think they would be making that comment?
02:38:59.880
They would still be able to make shitty comments, but not in this manner.
02:39:09.380
They would be definitely, some of them at least, they would be similar to what we heard at the table when we were discussing it.
02:39:17.080
There would be many, this is how I vision it, there would be females that would say, oh, yeah, I hope your daddy's going to find out.
02:39:26.080
You know, he will be embarrassed of you and like, oh, you're a slut, it's going to be also ugly.
02:39:37.460
No, how would it be toxic masculinity if you said that's toxic masculinity?
02:39:43.460
Because if that were men, if that was a man sitting there instead of a woman, they would not be making these comments, right?
02:39:53.180
They would make something else and depends on who it's coming from, I would definitely state, okay, this is also toxic femininity or masculinity.
02:40:02.300
I need you guys to make your final points here on this.
02:40:04.980
Yeah, it just, I'm still, I'm still not very clear on, so to me, it just seems like any general statement which is made about any gender is toxic femininity or masculinity.
02:40:17.380
Because if you're making the claim that the chatter's only saying this because they're men, that would be toxic femininity.
02:40:23.140
And if you're making the claim that the chatter is saying this to them only because they're women, that would also be toxic femininity.
02:40:40.120
Okay, I'm just trying to make sure that I'm clear on what you're saying.
02:40:46.180
All right, so, okay, let's get into some of the pre-show notes here.
02:41:10.800
Why is, why is, you said, why is monogamy, traditional life the way to go?
02:41:15.680
Yes, so, like, 30, 40 years ago, it was the way to go, but now I see much more girls doing
02:41:23.580
OnlyFans and, like, a lot of marriages, like, they divorce a lot.
02:41:33.420
Are you monogamous with your current two-year relationship?
02:41:42.500
We do what we want, but we tell each other we are honest about it.
02:41:52.580
He can do what he wants and I can do what I want, but we just suck at it.
02:42:10.040
Okay, you guys have been together for two years.
02:42:28.700
So, I find this a bit difficult to believe, so you don't get hit on at all?
02:42:51.400
So, you're saying there's not been any opportunity, you haven't found any one guy attractive?
02:43:08.320
Would you have unprotected sex with a stranger?
02:43:14.280
I'm assuming you have unprotected sex with your partner, though.
02:43:18.020
He would have no issue with you sleeping with another woman?
02:43:29.200
He would not have a problem with it, if I'm honest.
02:43:35.560
If you saw him sleep with another woman, you wouldn't feel any type of way?
02:43:45.440
Okay, well, let's say you didn't see it, but you knew that he slept with another woman.
02:43:50.920
It will hurt when he says it for, like, five minutes, but...
02:43:56.740
Why would you open yourself up to this kind of hurt?
02:43:59.900
Because it's five minutes and I'm not perfect, so why should I...
02:44:06.800
He'd be totally fine with you getting fucked by another man.
02:44:16.000
Is he a cuck for this, or is it, like, an open relationship and it's...
02:44:23.660
He doesn't stimulate me to do it, but it's okay.
02:44:40.060
Well, I mean, do you think he's ever lied to you that he...
02:44:47.460
Like, maybe he has, like, hooked up with a chick, but he just never told you?
02:45:06.220
Is that against the rules for you guys to be on dating apps?
02:45:18.540
I mean, would you at least concede that, uh, when it comes to STDs, monogamy is probably
02:45:31.080
But if you cheat, you're doing that as well, right?
02:45:39.620
So, this is the way to go under that circumstance.
02:45:42.340
But the STD argument isn't compelling enough for you.
02:45:45.700
I just don't see it at this time that, um, there is a marriage without cheating or without
02:45:55.760
And then why is traditional life the way to go?
02:45:58.280
When you say traditional life, you mean more traditional gender roles, too?
02:46:04.260
Oh, you're speaking strictly just about monogamy.
02:46:08.560
And traditional in the way of marriage, like, with one man or woman.
02:46:16.200
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure I understand it completely.
02:46:20.660
Um, maybe you can, you can just rephrase it for me.
02:46:24.060
Well, so she's, uh, in her notes, she said, or she asked, why is monogamy traditional life
02:46:32.380
She is in a open relationship with her boyfriend, although, uh, they suck at it, so neither of
02:46:44.000
them are, uh, cheating, but they could, uh, so she's...
02:46:54.700
Yeah, are you gonna open it up with another girl or another guy?
02:47:00.820
No, I don't think they would do, would it be threesomes?
02:47:12.540
It's always a girl, so, um, and then if you're opening up your relationship, was it his idea
02:47:21.160
Yeah, okay, it's always, they always say both, but somebody had the original idea and brought
02:47:25.960
Which one of it, which one, which one, was it him or you?
02:47:36.400
It's a pretty, that's a pretty pivotal conversation to not remember.
02:47:42.260
You're eating your Cheerios together and drinking coffee, and you both look bright at each other
02:47:49.140
Like, that, of course that didn't happen, right?
02:47:51.060
So, what happened was, one of you brought it up, and you began to discuss it, right?
02:47:58.440
We, we started the relationship with the same vision.
02:48:09.160
Yeah, so you met each other, and then over dinner, or whatever.
02:48:22.820
One of us brought it up, and the other one said, oh, yeah, I'm like that as well.
02:48:28.120
So, you're, so your intent, is this the first time you've been in an open relationship?
02:48:46.320
Yeah, what does, what does that mean, you changed?
02:48:48.260
I was at home a lot, and then, uh, after COVID, I didn't want to be anymore, and he wanted,
02:49:11.120
Because the guy, the second the guy has another interest in another woman.
02:49:14.560
That's why open relationships fail, by the way, 95% of the time, 95%.
02:49:22.160
And the other 5% are just waiting to be added to the, to the, uh, 95%.
02:49:27.440
Did you have a monogamous relationship before this one?
02:49:42.920
Yes, but conveniently enough, anytime in those relationships that one partner begins to express
02:49:48.380
interest in somebody who's external to the relationship, that relationship ends.
02:49:52.940
Monogamous relationships end for different reasons.
02:49:55.300
So while I, I'll grant logically to you that because there's a correlatory that both end,
02:50:04.160
That's not actually true because the reason why it's reported that these end in the open relationship
02:50:10.280
is because one partner expresses interest in another one.
02:50:14.740
I did end the relationship, so, and he was with someone else during our relationship.
02:50:25.780
Yeah, I'm just saying that conveniently enough, the most widely reported reason that open
02:50:32.940
relationships end is because the man begins to find significant amounts of interest in
02:50:38.260
a woman other than the one he's in the primary relationship.
02:50:42.720
And if it's, uh, the relationship I have now, I have no problem with it, with breaking it
02:50:47.180
up because I'm not perfect and someone else can be for him.
02:50:55.880
But if you want to know, if you want to know why monogamy is optimal, it's because it allows
02:50:59.780
for every man to have a partner, every ugly man to have an ugly woman, and every beautiful
02:51:06.160
It allows for that instead of allowing the beautiful women or beautiful men to absorb
02:51:11.580
up all of the ugly and beautiful people, right?
02:51:14.440
Which is what, what you tend to see in, uh, hypergamous nations.
02:51:18.700
So monogamy offsets this and creates the most stable societies, which with that we have, that's
02:51:30.800
Uh, and generally it's not a thing that we should promote inside of society.
02:51:34.060
Now, if you're asking for a reason for why you shouldn't be monogamous from a secular
02:51:38.420
standpoint, that's the only reason I can give you, because honestly, I just don't give
02:51:42.340
a shit what secularists do, because it's all just based on some whim and preference,
02:51:49.280
I have nothing, nothing against monogamy, by the way.
02:51:52.520
I think if it's what you agree on with your partner, it's beautiful.
02:52:05.680
No, I mean, is he, like, he came with you on this trip to America?
02:52:15.800
I'm gonna assign you as official chat reader for the rest of the show.
02:52:21.800
Okay, so I'm gonna pull it up, and you go ahead and read them.
02:52:23.940
Feminists, you obviously never watch this podcast.
02:52:28.860
Chats also make fun of the small number of stupid men that Brian bring into the podcast.
02:52:34.880
Well, ugly, logical men don't get YouTube views.
02:52:41.640
I'm an ugly, logical man, and I get YouTube views.
02:52:57.580
I get the most, I get the most criticism of, of everybody.
02:53:14.540
Oh, chair three, you're the lathsome one, the exemplar of why there is no harmony between
02:53:32.500
All right, Lucas, thank you for the, uh, message.
02:53:41.680
We have another one here coming in, in just a moment, from Captain Awesome.
02:53:52.600
Married mothers report being happy 17 to 80 percent.
02:53:56.440
Married career women's report 65 to 75 percent.
02:54:32.720
She's one of those self-hating Asian girls that white worship.
02:54:38.140
That's why she wants to pay for a white nose job.
02:54:42.860
Actually, plastic surgery is like super Asian, especially in Korea.
02:55:05.020
Well, you said you don't like Korean men, was it?
02:55:12.320
Every single time somebody has a criticism, instead of responding to the criticism,
02:55:17.180
criticizing them based on the criticism, women tend to just instantly go to,
02:55:30.220
It's like your knee-jerk reaction was to be like,
02:55:38.400
Every single time, if anybody has a criticism, right,
02:55:44.780
It's just because you want to have sex with them, right?
02:55:49.460
Maybe he's Asian, and he's mad that Asian women don't really like other Asian men.
02:55:59.760
Well, Asian-American women tend to choose white men over Asian men.
02:56:35.060
I bet he thinks that if he doesn't allow her to be in an open relationship,
02:56:56.400
I mean, look, Andrew, do you think that would be a good idea, Andrew,
02:57:09.640
And then you could put a bunch of things to bed at the same time.
02:57:12.440
One, you'll see that the super chatters are just as mean to the men
02:57:16.020
In fact, more so mean to the men, just so you know,
02:57:19.740
and then, you know, my kind of other follow-up for that chat came in was,
02:57:25.100
I think that when women do that, like you did, the knee-jerk reaction of,
02:57:31.060
I think the reason that they do that is because they seem to only put
02:57:38.120
and I think that that actually is the best way to devalue yourself possible.
02:57:52.380
Like, we could just have him join the panel for 30 minutes or something.
02:58:05.040
By the way, we're going to do a little pizza party here in about 20 minutes.
02:58:13.120
Look, Andrew, we had pizza when you were here, okay?
02:58:17.860
Listen, you've got to come back in studio, Andrew,
02:58:31.620
So you never want me to come back to the studio?
02:58:47.860
criticizing Adam22 and other cooks for their OF participation.
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But look, my top two picks are white and Asian.
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No, you were like, I dated a black dwarf, but...
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Look, Tiffany, I know you like to talk about race.
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I just feel like you were going to say something.
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Do any of you know, like, a female dwarf, though?
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Do you need somebody to fix your wiring or what, Ryan?
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This is really offensive, what you're doing to the little person community.
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Is that a self-assessment of the size of their labia?
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Or do you have to do an examination first to get on your roster?
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Well, I've actually been catfished by a girl before.
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Like, this girl slid into my DMs, and she's like, hey, Brian, I've got an outie.
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And then, like, when it came down to, like, business time or whatever...
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Pretty unbelievable how you're always going after the 0.1% of the population, Brian.
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Not only a dwarf, but a dwarf with a 1-inch labia.
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I thought you were talking about the car at first.
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Why you guys got to bring up the labia stuff all the time?
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I'm just trying to, like, keep that under wraps.
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But in no way directed at chair four, five, six, seven.
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Guys, if you want, you can get your little chat in.
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Wait, just read it before it disappears, please.
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If you can read one of these before it disappears, I'll give you $100.
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Patriarchal monogamy will always be the gold standard for wife, kids, and husband.
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This is because, like many Asian women, you want to get a white nose due to that self-hatred.
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But to the super chatter's point, is that because South Korea is an American port and
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But I don't feel like that actually contends with the question.
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So I understand why there could be cultures which, for instance, have rings around their
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necks so that it stretches their neck and they have really long necks.
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And then what we would do is we would apply every other person who copied that culture
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But if the pioneer of the group is the one who is starting the thing and other people are
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complying to move towards that thing, then we would assume that that's the culture you want
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So in this case, the question is, yes, I understand South Korea, though, is very much westernized.
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So westernized, in fact, that it's basically been an American protectorate for, what, like 70 years?
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Is that why they're doing that, to the super chatter's question?
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Like, in general, that's why, the culture, they like cutesy things.
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Yeah, it's, well, culture comes from somewhere.
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Yeah, but if you went back a hundred years, bro, they'd, the men were not liking cutesy shit
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There's no, there's, there's no culture in 1925 that was like fucking with Hello Kitty.
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Well, Korea is like a really homogenous society.
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They would already look like each other without nose jobs, though.
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Why are there three people up at the same time right now?
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Right, when they all, they would, they would look like each other with absent the nose jobs.
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I mean, I guess, I guess it kind of comes from being westernized.
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We have, you know what, actually, wait, where the hell is it?
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Tiffany, you wrote in your notes, you don't have a crazy dating story because you've never
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really dated around, but you do have hot takes.
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You should date within your culture and nationality.
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Oh, wait, wouldn't this prove that Super Chatter wrong about the white boyfriend?
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Yo, Bob Evans, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
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Oh, if that was the case, wouldn't that prove the Super Chatter wrong about a white boyfriend?
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Well, if you think you should only date within culture and nationality, right?
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Not a lot of white Koreans running around, right?
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No, as long as you're assimilated to the culture and you have the same nationality, like you
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How does a white person and an Asian person have the same nationality, though?
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You could be an Asian American and a white American, you would have the same nationality.
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I don't know what the difference between ethnicity and nationality was, but we got it.
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I just don't understand how nationality is part of ethnicity.
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Yeah, but you can be ethnically something and your nationality can be different.
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You can be ethnically one thing and your nationality can be from another place.
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So, you're conflating racial characteristics with ethnicity.
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I would think of American as a nationality, and there's a lot of different kinds of ethnicities that are...
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You could even say that independent family is an ethnicity.
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It just depends on how much you want to reduce it.
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But all ethnicity is pointing to is people groupings.
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So, that could be grouped on nationality, race, whatever.
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Let's get a little clarification just to move things along here.
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You said you should date within your culture and nationality.
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And you said you should date within your nationality.
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So, Americans should not date people from other countries?
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So, anybody living in America can date somebody else living in America because that's...
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The culture is broadly American and the nationality is, of course, American.
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So, your hot take is that Americans should date Americans?
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No, Americans shouldn't date, like, immigrants with a different passport.
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Citizens of the United States should not date immigrants.
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Or citizens who haven't assimilated to the culture.
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But you could make her an American by marriage.
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But she would become a citizen if I were to marry her.
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Because you don't want her to become a citizen.
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So is it people that are from, like, not American or people who are in America not legally that you don't agree with?
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It's people with an American passport who have an assimilated and people who have assimilated but don't have an American passport.
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What if there was an immigrant from Korea and she has taken on the American culture and she's assimilated but she's an immigrant?
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What if she's not a dwarf and she's just, like, hot as fuck?
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To create a modernist society where there's no...
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It's like, when you marry someone outside of your culture and nationality, you're kind of, like, deluding the culture, like, of your nation.
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Do you know that this nation is founded off of immigrants?
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My family was an immigrant, like, granted a few generations back, but I think almost every single person in this room probably was an immigrant at some point.
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I think if there's way too many immigrants coming in, this whole country's going to lose its, like, identity.
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Because technically, this country was founded on white, like, Christian values.
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If your boyfriend was an immigrant, would you still date him?
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Andrew, just tell me, because you should just...
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I mean, it's fine as it is, but now we've crossed into the Rubicon.
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But the idea here that you're promoting is just...
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It's just the idea that cultural homogeny is a thing which people generally strive towards.
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It's just that they're talking specifically about culture.
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So, for instance, let me give all of you an example.
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Japan has a distinct culture, and Japan has a distinct people group, and Japan wants to
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Can any of you think of a single problem with that?
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I don't see any problem with the way that they live.
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But I don't think it's applicable to the United States.
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Well, whether you do or you don't, you're right.
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You couldn't say that if the United States had such a standard, it would be immoral because
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the standard itself for Japan, you just conceded, is not.
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So, this is the point of a cultural nationalist who's saying, if you have a culture which you
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want to keep intact, like the Japanese, Japanese don't...
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They only allow in a very, very, very tiny amount of immigrants into the nation.
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And, you know, what's the argument for them not to do that?
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Isn't, like, the definition of racism discriminating against race and nationality?
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Isn't the definition of racism discriminating against race and nationality?
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Well, then what's the problem with them wanting to keep Japan Japanese?
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No, I'm just saying, like, in America, I feel like that's, like...
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Yeah, no, but to answer my question, though, what's the problem with Japan wanting to keep
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Japan Japanese, even though their policy, by your definition, they would be racist, right?
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I mean, I don't live in Japan, so I don't really, like, care what they do, but, like...
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I don't really know why that has anything to do with the question, though.
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You know, why do you need to live there in order to engage with the question itself?
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Well, it doesn't affect me, but, like, I don't...
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Okay, I don't think it's a problem, per se, but I just think...
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So, you're basically saying that racism isn't a problem, right?
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Okay, well, then if it is the case that you're saying, if you're...
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If the Japanese are discriminating against non-Japanese people, that's racist, but you
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don't have a problem with that, then what else could you be saying other than racism
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Okay, I just don't want to smoke with Japan, but I'm just saying, like, I'm just making
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If they wanted to keep Japan Japanese, would they fit that definition?
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I think that a different example than Japan would be, like, a lot of the Gulf states in
03:18:15.200
Their citizenship is extremely exclusive and only offered to people who are born there
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So, like, you look at places like Kuwait or Qatar, where they have more...
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Yeah, where there's more foreign nationals living there without a passport than there
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are actual citizens of the country, which just creates, like, a very strange dichotomy,
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That would be, like, if there's more non-Americans living in America than Americans.
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It's just, like, a strange thing and generally...
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They're literally saying, we don't want people groups other than ours here.
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Because they're allowing more people than citizens of their own country to...
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As long as it's underneath the threshold of the majority.
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No, I think you should do your research a little bit because there's...
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I'm talking about the Middle Eastern example that I just provided.
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So the thing is, is, like, if the Japanese people say, we want our nation to be 99% or
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98% Japanese, right, and that is their official policy, is that a racist policy?
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The official policy is the majority of Japan is to stay Japanese.
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So the Japanese rule out everybody who doesn't look like an Asian Japanese person...
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A bunch of white people and then claiming that they're Japanese because they now have Japanese
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They only take X amount of immigrants per year to make sure that it stays Japanese.
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Cultural nationalism seems to fit in a lot better with smaller countries that are more homogenous.
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And in the United States, we have a lot of cultural pluralism.
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And that's what makes this idea of cultural nationalism not quite fit when your passport says USA.
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I could refute that pretty easy, but I'm not going to dive into it for purposes of YouTube TOS.
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But the thing is, is I would still like an answer to this question, right?
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If the Japanese say we want, like, 95% of our country to always remain Japanese, right?
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And Japanese, the criteria is you genetically have to be tied to the Japanese race by X threshold.
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Uh, and we'll only take X amount of immigrants who are not genetically tied to that, to that, uh, demographic.
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It is a little bit, but I don't want to smoke with Japan, so I'm not going to say that.
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So, but you're saying, like, a white American can date an Asian American, a black American can date a white American?
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I think they should, but that doesn't mean I won't sometimes.
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Like, but it's not, it's not for their lack of trying.
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And then, uh, going back to Tiffany, you also said, maybe we'll come back to the paying for dates thing later,
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but, uh, you said you shouldn't get married if you don't plan to have children.
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Basically, you shouldn't have kids out of wedlock.
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Uh, you said people who don't speak English should date outside of America.
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It's, like, English is what, like, makes America America, you know?
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So, can they date anybody that speaks another language or only their same language?
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As long as they can communicate with each other in English.
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What about two Spanish speakers who don't speak English in America?
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That's, that they should speak, they should both speak at least the same, one same language?
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I don't, I don't know why, why that's even problematic.
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If you're going to live in a country and immigrate to it, you should speak the language of the country.
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Like, if I went to Japan, I can't just be like, motherfuckers, you should speak English.
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Well, I mean, many, many nations have this as a, as a litmus test.
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Like, you can't move to the nation unless you can prove that you can speak the language of the nation,
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Wait, so, okay, so you said people who don't speak English should date outside of America.
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Yeah, wherever they're from, if they, they're from Spain, go date in Spain, where it's, they speak Spanish.
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Are you thinking of another country that speaks there?
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That's where I thought you were going with that.
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I just, there's not a lot of, uh, Spanish illegal immigrants.
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Uh, you also said, um, only men should make decisions for the family.
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However, in the best interest of his wife and kids and not himself.
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Um, I think that the nuclear family structure is the strongest backbone of a society.
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And the man is supposed to be a provider and a protector.
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So it's like right that he makes a decision for his family.
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That wasn't, that was a very natural reaction of mine too.
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It just cancels the love of some people and there would be no other love for those.
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And, uh, it's just not the statement that I would ever make out loud or in my head as
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But I mean, it has, and it's not because it has something to do with me, even though I
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did experience the same sex relationship and it wasn't for me.
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It's just, yeah, as soon as I heard it, I was very uncomfortable thinking about the people
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who are happy in this relationship and that will stay together till the end of their
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Do you need the, is a state required to be married?
03:26:35.220
Well, if you don't need the state to be married, then I don't understand why gay people couldn't
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get married, even if the state didn't recognize a marriage.
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You would need the state to recognize your marriage?
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You don't need the state to recognize your wife.
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You don't need the state to be married, but you don't need the state to be married.
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So then you're just calling it marriage without, without the sacrament or the certificate?
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And as you know, might, might note, the religious sacrament of marriage excludes what particular
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Official Catholic doctrine is that LGBTQ marriage is not allowed.
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I said I'm a Catholic, but did I say that that's the all-Christian doctrine?
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No, I just said I personally am a Catholic, so I'm familiar with how Christians.
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Marriage is a sacrament to the Catholic Church.
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The churches which will marry LGBTQ people don't see marriage as a sacrament.
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So I'd like to note, right, you do recognize that the church excludes this group from marriage.
03:28:12.220
Um, I'm not, I, I guess they, as a, a sacrament, but I do know that there are churches that will marry gay couples.
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To me, the words, I didn't know sacrament is, is, uh, specific to.
03:28:38.120
I, I understand that that's a sacrament, but I didn't, I thought sacrament was like a holy practice.
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I thought that could be applicable to any church.
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You can call it a sacrament, I guess, but what makes it that?
03:28:49.240
So this is, this is where the argument goes, right?
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Would you agree with me that somebody could worship Satan, but ID themselves as a Christian?
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Well, you could self-ID yourself as whatever you want, but that doesn't mean it's true.
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So you can self-ID as whatever you want, but it doesn't make you that thing.
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So we have to have specific criteria for what makes you that thing.
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So, uh, the Catholics are going to believe that they are the true church.
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The Orthodox believe that they are the true church, right?
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So they're excluding these groups as being Christians based around self-ID.
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And I think that that's totally reasonable, but they definitely exclude LGBTQ from marriage.
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So you think gay people should date or shouldn't date?
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They could if they want to, but I mean, I'm just saying that gay marriage isn't a thing
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Um, that the man should be making those decisions.
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The man should be making decisions for the benefit of the children, not him.
03:30:12.120
Well, yeah, I kind of, I said that because when people say only, like, when, when the trad
03:30:18.820
guy say, like, oh, I only get to make decisions in my family, it sounds kind of like dictator
03:30:27.440
You know, but that's not what really is about, you know?
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It's not about, um, being kind of, like, prideful and arrogant and making decisions because, like,
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you're the only smart one in the household or you're the only competent one.
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When you just make decisions in the best interest of your family.
03:30:49.560
Yeah, but who gets to determine what's in the best interest of your family?
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Okay, so then I don't really understand the circular logic here.
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How could he be doing anything which is prideful or et cetera, et cetera, unless you are the
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one who's telling him that if he's the one in charge of the family?
03:31:06.840
No, I'm saying, like, other kind of, like, left-leaning people kind of hear it that way
03:31:16.620
Well, I disagree with your, with your assessment and, uh, forgive me, I'll steal man at first
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to make sure that I have it correct so that I'm not, not mischaracterizing your position.
03:31:26.440
But I believe that your position here is to say that a man is a sacrifice for his family
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because of that he is the leader of the family but that's due to the self-sacrifice
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for the family, not that he's the leader, uh, and he should be leading for himself.
03:31:43.020
He should only be leading for the family, right?
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But you say, yeah, but you say his criteria for leadership is self-sacrifice.
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So, uh, I don't, I don't understand that part of the position.
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I think, I think God just gave men the role of leadership.
03:32:23.320
Okay, so it's not for the purpose of self-sacrifice?
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But they have to take care of themselves first, right?
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Because how, otherwise how could they sacrifice to anybody else?
03:32:38.180
So, like, how, how can a man, for instance, take care of his family
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if he's not also putting his own needs and welfare, uh, to the forefront as well?
03:32:47.620
What's an example of, like, putting himself first?
03:32:56.980
So, let's take, for instance, work is sacrificial, right?
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But you're gonna, he's gonna need to have plenty of R&R time, plenty of relaxed time.
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He's gonna have to be taking care of himself as well.
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And part of the obligation, duty of leadership is also putting your needs, your needs.
03:33:13.800
Um, I, see, I think that, I think that you have it backwards.
03:33:18.340
I think a man actually does have to put his needs first in order to make those sacrifices
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It's like, in the long term, it's beneficial for his family.
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So, so ultimately, I think that, I think that the man does need to have his needs, uh, come
03:33:40.580
up first and foremost, otherwise he can't take care of anybody else.
03:33:54.020
So, I think the left has it right when they, uh, characterize, uh, the right and conservatives
03:34:02.000
You just think that this man's a meany head dictator who's putting himself first?
03:34:06.100
Well, in many ways, yes, uh, he is putting himself first because otherwise, how can he
03:34:14.600
If he's not healthy, he's not, uh, he's not available to sacrifice, right?
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At least if he wanted a traditional relationship.
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And it used to be that way inside of traditional relationships that the, uh, the movement towards
03:34:36.660
a man's relaxation, R&R time and things like this were catered to.
03:34:41.040
That way he could make those, uh, those, those sacrifices with his body.
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Yeah, I don't know where Brian wanted to move on from here.
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Is he, is, uh, he microwaving a burrito right now?
03:34:59.800
He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,
03:35:05.580
Okay, well this one comes up quite a bit and I'll bring it, so I'll bring this one up with
03:35:10.160
So there's been an ongoing Twitter dispute, uh, all over the place.
03:35:14.980
Um, this is with religious and non-religious circles.
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And the question is, for women in a married relationship, is sex a duty or not a duty?
03:35:28.260
are you obligated in a marriage to have sex with your husband and we'll uh we'll go around the
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table to ask the question and we'll start with you and red go ahead yes i do believe um in a
03:35:44.120
uh i'm assuming like a normal relationship assuming there's no like crazy outlying factors
03:35:53.200
affecting the relationship i i do stuff like that yeah yeah like stuff like that i mean in in a
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normal marriage i do think it's your duty and i and i do agree with you about a man's needs um
03:36:08.780
being catered to in order for him to you know fulfill his role as the man of the house or man
03:36:16.180
of whatever you know household relationship whatever um but also i think it's um a man's
03:36:23.820
duty to have sex with his wife too so okay yeah yeah i understand that we'll go around the table
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um actually pretty base take uh next i am based by the way don't you see i'm in head-to-toe red
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i do well i mean well then well then it's good for you uh so so move it to the moving moving to
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the next on the table um no thank you the quiet do you need me to repeat the question you need me to
03:36:54.140
repeat the question don't you like checked out to the to the 18 year old only fans girl you just
03:36:58.360
checked out you don't even know what the question is no i do know what the question is all right
03:37:02.660
all right go ahead i think you're referring to sex is the duty for women or men or like just
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generally in the relationship is there a duty to have sex is there an obligation to have sex in
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marriage i think that a relationship or a marriage without sex will eventually die because the question
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the question is not what you think about it just yes or no is there an obligation in a marriage to have
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sex yes okay moving crow around the table next yes okay i don't have an opinion on this at this
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time i haven't formed an i don't i haven't formed an opinion on me too if you okay so so i i won't
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hold this against you but knee jerk just like a knee jerk my knee jerk leans towards yes because
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okay your your physical relationship is part of your your union or what makes someone a
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significant other like i have a hundred platonic relationships but that's the that's the thing
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that makes a plot that changes a platonic relationship to a an emotional significant
03:38:12.700
relationship my knee jerk reaction is moving or moving around the table from there is a is a woman
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obligated to give sex in a relation or in a marriage is she obligated to do so
03:38:24.280
is it to me yeah um come on guys pay attention pay attention we're going around the table well i thought
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you were asking a different question so no it's the same question
03:38:40.060
i kind of agree with her but like the way you're phrasing the question kind of sounds like forceful but
03:38:46.900
at the same time yes i don't know yeah so without the caveats just for now is d are you obligated to
03:38:59.100
give sex in a marriage are you obligated to do so i think it's two different questions the first
03:39:06.300
question you asked was like is it a woman's a woman's duty to have sex in a relationship yeah well
03:39:13.040
what is it i'm sorry i'm i'm confused a duty is an obligation correct thank you sort of well what
03:39:21.980
else could it be i don't know it sounds kind of more like in fact in fact when i will i will just
03:39:27.600
give you the google definition of the word duty for some reason i'm guessing right that it's going to
03:39:34.200
say obligation right in it let's see duty definition uh a moral or legal legal obligation
03:39:43.060
a moral or legal obligation is what a duty is so yeah so is a woman obligated to have sex in her
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yes i do think so you think so yes yes yes yes yes yes okay it should definitely be a part of a marriage
03:40:03.920
yes i think it's your duty to fulfill it so full for full for fulfill thank you fulfill thanks
03:40:16.780
each other's needs so if sex is one of them then you should
03:40:24.520
uh if if you feel like that's in a marriage yes if you don't feel like it no
03:40:30.360
okay so uh just very quickly show of hands at the table everybody who said yes there's an obligation
03:40:38.280
okay so now that we have the obligation standard applied here's the question this is going around
03:40:47.120
the feminist circles there was a woman who is receiving chemotherapy and her husband came in
03:40:53.400
every single night to receive head from her right she was by this logic obligated to give him said head
03:41:01.380
is that correct and we'll go around the table again
03:41:04.820
um well i did put that stipulation in my answer um so i i think this is like something they should
03:41:16.760
probably talk about in therapy uh because i'm assuming um maybe the woman is not feeling her
03:41:24.980
best but i do think you know you should still try you still are in a marriage um however i think that
03:41:32.380
the man should be like more lenient during these times or if you're a very open-minded person
03:41:39.060
than maybe me personally i mean she's obligated right well yes i do think that you're obligated
03:41:47.420
to ensure that your husband's needs are met i did not say by you okay if you're bald and in
03:41:52.780
chemotherapy and you don't feel like doing it and you're like you know what like i'm just focused
03:41:57.120
on trying to live right now if you want to go sleep with somebody else and that's just that just
03:42:03.380
to fulfill your physical needs like i think that that would be a potential solution i mean yeah but
03:42:09.960
if they're if they're christians they can't do that it's not an option right i mean by the way we're
03:42:15.840
gonna do a i mean you you can guys can keep talking we're gonna do a uh tts pizza party it's
03:42:22.240
gonna be a roast session if you guys want so get your tts you guys continue talking though but
03:42:28.220
we got some pizza here give the girls a little breather yeah so i think it's case by case basis
03:42:35.660
but i think that your i thought it was obligation before no it's an obligation to make sure your man's
03:42:42.080
needs are met but did i say that that's your personal obligation if you're struggling and in
03:42:47.080
chemo it might not be your obligation maybe give the obligation to the to somebody to take it over
03:42:52.960
temporarily and then when you're feeling back to your best self and you feel like you can
03:42:57.100
you know all right all right well let me get the rest of the answers in real quick so we'll go next
03:43:00.880
you said it's an obligation right so what do you think in this situation i think it's still an
03:43:07.800
obligation to have sex but i think your opinion matters like the wife's opinion if she's in that state
03:43:16.080
it should depend on her okay well that doesn't sound like an obligation that sounds like it's optional
03:43:23.460
but we'll go to the next one then uh obligation remember you hey she has an obligation yeah i would
03:43:30.140
say yes of course it's a very strong word but i believe that in the couple that actually does have
03:43:37.020
a potential and that is strong enough um to survive in the future as the as the team it will be an
03:43:46.120
obligation that will not hurt them in any way neither emotional or physical you know well that doesn't
03:43:52.560
sound like an obligation it sounds like it's just optional no no i i do not want to make it sound
03:43:58.360
optional i believe that it is an obligation and the healthy couples that have a chance to survive in
03:44:04.620
the future in case that this is the kind of bonding that will last this obligation should not
03:44:12.280
give anybody any discomfort and in case um the situation happens well it definitely needs attention
03:44:22.840
and needs to be fixed either yeah through therapy it needs to be processed lucas donated one hundred
03:44:28.860
dollars andrew to answer a rhetorical question dotted simply a tacit acknowledgement that the sum total of
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their intrinsic value is predicated on their triumvirate of holes
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that's the funniest shit i've heard all night you don't even understand what you said but it's so
03:44:47.400
funny okay so um but i don't understand you can't just be any discomfort like uh oh i'm tired from
03:44:53.340
work you wouldn't accept that right so it's not just predicated on discomfort right there has to be
03:44:59.400
some other criteria that we're applying the legendary trash panda donated one hundred dollars
03:45:06.060
panel you meet the perfect guy six figure income early 40s dad bot wants to wife you but refuses to
03:45:14.380
get legally married covenant marriage only chair three i can fix you let me see them feet
03:45:21.160
what the fuck do you mean by that he can fix you uh but but what how what does it have to do with my feet
03:45:33.080
i i genuinely want to understand what happened what does it mean why why feet he masturbates to women's
03:45:44.860
feet all right but how can he fix me by that well he's not saying he would fix you by that he's saying he
03:45:51.800
could fix you active we're using external mechanisms but he wants a picture of your feet to fap to because
03:46:00.860
anyway johnny spiral donated thirty dollars andrew i was looking forward to your debate with still a
03:46:09.800
hunty why did you have to make him leave like a whiny little bald baby biatch oh well w for andrew
03:46:17.300
oh brian no hot dogs today johnny jake donated thirty dollars if a wife declines to have sex and a man
03:46:28.460
sleeps with another woman is she to blame good question well i mean we were that was literally
03:46:35.620
going to be the lead-in to the to the next question right sons of liberty donated twenty nine dollars and
03:46:40.900
ninety nine cents who will or would you vote for if you could trump or cumala if cumala name one policy
03:46:49.540
of hers that you support besides abortion wait so we'll get back to jake's we'll read uh we'll answer
03:46:56.100
sons of liberty so jake said here i'll pull it back up really quick i want the entire panel to answer
03:47:01.860
sorry guys let's pause one sec jake donated thirty dollars if a wife declines to have sex and a man
03:47:11.040
sleeps with another woman is she to blame here just show hands on this from the whole panel is she to
03:47:16.420
blame is the hand yes or okay all right how about we'll go around then yes or no yeah yeah the hand
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is yes no they can't do it they don't understand the instructions go ahead okay yes or no not always
03:47:30.860
okay do i accept the non-answer so i'm saying that like sometimes i feel like if a woman is being
03:47:37.420
like if you haven't had sex with your wife in like a long time like she's being like she's just not into
03:47:43.180
it whatever and he cheats like it is it's not like justifiable but i guess it's more understandable
03:47:50.540
okay what about you no no these aren't simple absolute questions to answer and we're doing a
03:48:00.460
brief session you got answers no answers here no but it's my turn to answer andrew's question next
03:48:05.020
no if they if they talked about it and they agreed upon it yes okay but you guys are all fine
03:48:12.220
like justified he can divorce her you're fine with that oh yeah okay all right and then oh uh who
03:48:21.020
are you gonna vote for trump or kamala trump you're canadian trudeau or polivier polivier
03:48:31.580
trump okay we are gonna annex cantha i'm not eligible to ward who who would you vote for
03:48:44.220
i will skip that question sorry i feel like we know i've been a third party voter since 2012
03:48:51.660
so you're gonna vote trump this time though right i've been a third party voter for
03:48:56.540
since 2012 and i sent in my absentee ballot before i left and it wasn't it was not for rfk
03:49:04.620
it was not for trump no you have failed us you have failed us in every conceivable i had hope for you
03:49:11.980
we haven't had hope andrew we have ranked choice voting in alaska and um i voted for chase oliver
03:49:19.020
first and then trump second so he gets a half a vote from me yeah but he could have got the full vote
03:49:25.020
but i need to i needed to represent a third party because it's important to vote for third parties
03:49:30.220
so that they become contenders um no one come on
03:49:35.660
but you're not voting no why not there's no point okay if you were in pennsylvania like
03:49:43.740
those i think you should girl better moving on moving on from that i'm telling you moving on from that
03:49:49.100
i'm not going to answer that question okay yeah i live in belgium by the way can i just say real
03:50:11.420
quick matt donated 30 dollars why do you deserve to vote
03:50:18.860
the suffrage movement go ahead andrew you're about to say yeah i was going to say the third party
03:50:25.100
position that you have is actually really silly here it's actually impossible to ever have more
03:50:30.780
than two parties who are established it's actually impossible you're never going to have why is it
03:50:34.940
impossible if you vote for them then they're electable the argument that i often hear is that a third
03:50:39.820
party is it selectable ogle donated 30 dollars it seems andrew is conflating obligation and necessity a
03:50:47.020
bit in this line of questioning well we never got through the line of questioning i was going to
03:50:51.660
point out a few kind of key things but we can't we just can't do these names donated 30 dollars
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thank you andrew for holding blue accountable she finally admitted the nose job is white worship
03:51:05.100
i hope she learns to appreciate her god-given asian nose no following white worship asian culture
03:51:16.460
rakuma get it fn right andrew always see blocking always also ask the panel perfect guy won't legally
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married though share three i need to see dem feet first before i decide to select you
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stop coming bro stop coming bro crazy we have a few more like a good guy just stop coming
03:51:38.620
who cares donated 30 dollars brian where is your burrito why are you cheating on it you fat pig
03:51:46.940
just kidding andrew needs more coffee i can see his cup getting empty by the second yeah it's a good
03:51:53.660
point daryl underscore frank carson 512 donated 30 dollars if she's in the hospital and can still
03:52:01.340
talk then she can sick dck andrew i'm going to lose to my wife tonight we had a bet chair three
03:52:08.220
was gonna rage quit by now you need to go harder johnny spiral donated 30 dollars why bother being in an
03:52:17.020
open relationship if you're not even going to fuck other people sounds to me like your bf convinced you
03:52:23.100
to stick around until he finds someone better this makes you happy yes that donated 29 and 99 cents
03:52:32.780
to the old lady in the beanie are you wearing a hat on top of your hair hat yes i don't know what that
03:52:40.060
means uh dylan joe donated 29 and 99 cents thank you dylan there was a young virgin named alice who
03:52:50.220
thought of her co-aunt as a chalice one night sleeping nude she awoke feeling lewd and found in
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here chalice a phallus brie ain't heavy he's my brother baby um okay what are you doing okay wait you
03:53:07.340
were supposed to finish that pizza in three bites what the fuck did you want me to wait can we listen
03:53:13.820
yes i can try okay do it wait jake donated 30 dollars andrew and brian would you allow your
03:53:21.580
women to wear a bikini or would you put your foot down that's an interesting one andrew you first
03:53:34.220
why wait why the laugh it's just like okay like all right i mean you didn't even say anything you
03:53:46.780
well i mean um while i know that it seems like it's an unreasonable standard to allow your significant
03:53:53.420
other to go out and get googled in her bra and panties i prefer not to do that
03:54:01.180
respect brother i you know what i'm more of a burkini guy like i would like i'll take it to
03:54:07.180
the extreme like it's not even a one piece andrew like you're on some simp shit dude like she's wearing
03:54:11.820
a fucking burkini dude get on the get with the game get get get with the program andrew can we google
03:54:19.100
a uh google a picture of burkini google that shit she i'm gonna get her in a burkini
03:54:31.580
what the fuck was it can you do that again what the hell don't do it don't do that look uh if it
03:54:38.380
makes you feel any better i also think that there's a standard for respect for men i see i notice that
03:54:45.500
men walk around all the time with their shirts off i find that to be highly disrespectful i've always
03:54:50.220
saw that my dad told me when i was a little kid um regardless of the shape that you're in don't
03:54:56.140
walk around with your shirt off that's what trashy people do and generally i have found that this is
03:55:00.860
not always the case but i have generally found that men who walk around their shirt off usually
03:55:04.700
are trashy people it's just do you wear a shirt like 99 percent of the population go ahead
03:55:10.700
make it bigger controls mouse wheel yeah oh she's flying her burkini no just that's a bit too big i
03:55:20.060
guess all the way to the top yeah this is this is what i would have my woman wearing um so yeah okay
03:55:30.380
here i'll let these come through smithers 25 donated 30 dollars what can a man do in a small midwestern
03:55:38.140
town to get the attention of a woman i'm divorced and looking to date again why hey stop
03:55:52.860
if you move to a country try to learn their language i don't have a problem with passport bros
03:55:59.260
because i'm tired of giving 110 just to try to live up to unrealistic standards i voted today trump
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the legendary trash panda donated thirty dollars i am the legendary trash panda i will never stop
03:56:17.740
coming chair three listen bbg join discord dot gg slash whatever yeah find me just ask for me i will
03:56:31.340
come i will make you a perfect trad wife with citizenship
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oh these names donated thirty dollars just because most women have sex out of wedlock are you doing
03:56:55.100
that no because it's wrong because most asian women that could afford a white nose get it doesn't mean
03:57:01.980
it's right i'm not asian but i want to know gmd jim donated thirty dollars a third party president is
03:57:09.820
ridiculous because no third party can control the congress and senate so a third party president will
03:57:16.540
not be effective and a waste of time actually have a better argument than that
03:57:20.540
kitten bear donated thirty dollars and thirty three cents chair one what day fact is up with your roots
03:57:28.060
those roots are a cry for help louder than any therapy session you could book
03:57:33.180
fuck you kitten bear what a dumb ass username oh literally damn okay uh wait okay really quick cena you
03:57:41.660
said you're gonna finish that pizza in three bites go quick do it in three bites wait you're hiding behind the
03:57:47.580
microphone you got oh oh oh one one one bite you got that one bite everybody knows the rules
03:58:05.660
what the fuck wow that was that was okay and she did it for free
03:58:11.260
good job that was that was very good you okay she needs some milk
03:58:25.980
could i speak to andrew's last question about uh
03:58:29.020
women with chemo oh gee underscores era donated thirty dollars in some religion sex is an obligation and
03:58:36.620
failure to fulfill this obligation is to obtain from marriage also with cancer have to consideration
03:58:42.860
the weakened body and weak muscles and sensitive nerves terminal underscore launched donated thirty
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three dollars chair one three hundred and four care two asian three hundred and four chair three dumb
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three hundred and four chair four how many cats do you have chair five just dumb
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yes it's racist three hundred and four chair seven chill chair eight belgian three hundred and four
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you should have all been swallowed damn what the
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daryl underscore frank castle five hundred and twelve donated thirty dollars
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chair two should definitely stick to off she couldn't answer basic questions and drew asked her
03:59:26.220
plus who would hire a woman to do a man's job just get back in the kitchen's trumpets
03:59:32.300
okay dylan joe donated 29.99 can we get a halloween earl stream no it'd be interesting to see the
03:59:41.980
degeneracy cranked up to 11. girl in red seems like quite a mean-spirited biatch
03:59:50.540
uh yeah probably no halloween eye or earl stream and even in santa barbara like all the halloween
03:59:54.780
stuff is like this past weekend the weekend before it's kind of weird how they they'll do the
03:59:59.820
halloween stuff like the week prior but yeah unfortunately unfortunately no the irl stuff
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is on hold for the time being but um if there's any other 30s that come through for the next minute
04:00:11.180
or two i'll kind of like allow the leeway we're back up to or well i the tts is a hundred down from
04:00:18.620
200 so if you guys want that's the new threshold tts is a hundred um did you can i uh can i quickly
04:00:26.620
address the voting thing real quick with um with chair uh chair four i'm really sorry i don't usually
04:00:32.540
say chair four or lady in red like that i wasn't here at the beginning of the show so i wasn't able
04:00:37.180
to write your names down so please forgive me for that um but so so chair four look my argument to you
04:00:43.980
for why a third party is not ever going to be viable has nothing to do maybe with our other
04:00:48.700
arguments you've heard uh voting is a collective power and since voting is a collective power you're
04:00:54.860
always going to end up with two parties because you have to inside of a democracy collectivize in
04:01:01.180
order to move an issue so a single person inside of a democracy has no power they only have power
04:01:08.380
through collectivization so you'll always see two parties no matter what because that is how you will
04:01:13.020
be able to have the broadest appeal to power is through that sort of collectivization that's
04:01:17.820
why everything is polarized and it doesn't matter what democratic nation you go to it's always going
04:01:22.140
to be the same the polarization is actually exactly what i find so disagreeable between the two-party
04:01:29.500
system um and yeah when i when you think of when you think of elections on a more local level then
04:01:36.620
um independent libertarians green parties have a more um have a better chance of getting a seat and
04:01:44.780
we see this in alaska for example um alaska has the highest independent voter turnout in the country and
04:01:51.260
it was actually one of the compelling reasons that i moved there from wisconsin because wisconsin being
04:01:55.660
a uh a very significant swing state yeah but that doesn't speak to the argument so the the argument here
04:02:02.620
specifically is at a national level for politics you will never be able to see anything but a two-party
04:02:08.700
system because individual people have no power people only have power as a collective so the second
04:02:15.580
you see one party right exercise power meaning they have x amount of people who have moved in
04:02:22.540
collectively to exercise this power there will always be an offset party who then equally must collectivize to
04:02:30.140
x extent in order to offset that power you can never have a third party or a fourth party or a fifth
04:02:35.180
party because otherwise you can never move the issue forward so it'll always be collectivization between
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duality you can it'll never be uh trifecta it'll just it'll never it'll never happen that's something
04:02:47.340
i would need to think more about i i also appreciated the comment that was talking about
04:02:51.820
the the senate rep in congress representation still being two but even if there were
04:02:57.100
a viable third party candidate as the leader it would still be a two-party system getting behind
04:03:03.260
it but then if that third-party person was proposing ideas then the two-party system has to
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has to weigh weigh weigh that out and decide which way to go with that new idea
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i do have to move to not the first time shoving it in on camera huh
04:03:21.260
i only wanted to point out that um a lot that every presidential election has been decided before
04:03:26.860
alaska votes are counted these nates donated 30 dollars that's the cut i've dated an asian girl
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before that was obsessed with getting a white nose hating her beautiful flat asian nose look up emily
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win win no women should end up like her because they hate themself um is okay she unfortunately was
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at the not at the table i think that was directed at uh tiffany there but uh huh oh she died this uh
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this woman from the plastic surgery or something okay what no nothing nothing i'm fixing the microphone
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so you will not be mad yep good submissive yeah patriarchy wins again all right let me get through
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the notes here guys so uh alexandra you said you have a crazy dating story you moved to oklahoma for
04:04:25.740
your ex who was cheating on you the whole time with a person who looked exactly like you yes like
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could be your twin yes so well there's a little bit more to the story so um yeah i did move to
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oklahoma um i did find out he was cheating on me with somebody who looked exactly like me um on top of
04:04:47.660
that my ex was like you know you really should cut your hair into a bob like you would look so good
04:04:51.980
with a bob and i was like you know what okay like maybe i would look good with bob i cut my hair into
04:04:56.860
a bob then i find out that the girl he was cheating on with on me with looked exactly like me with a
04:05:03.100
blonde bob okay we break up whatever like that was strange but you know maybe a coincidence maybe just
04:05:10.220
like blondes or i don't know weird we break up um he he was an athlete so uh his teammates after we broke
04:05:19.900
up were trying to talk to me and stuff and then my ex got with another a third triplet who looked
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exactly like us with a blonde bob and was posting pictures of her on his close friends for his teammates
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um to see pretending that it was me um so they would assume that we were back together but it was
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actually just a third doppelganger and the most ironic part of the story is that his mom hated me
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like hated me so i just love the fact that the girl he chose to be with next looked exactly like
04:06:01.660
my twin i didn't even have to do the karma she did it for me so that's my crazy dating story my ex
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totally has a very very extremely specific type i don't know are we allowed to show pictures of
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other people on this no not really well they did look exactly like me hence why i put my extensions
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back in because i don't want to be a triplet anymore oh um yeah that's uh that was a cool uh story um
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um oh uh yeah yeah my bad uh and then you also you wanted to speak on mother-son dynamics in a
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relationship and how moms can be insane yeah um i just think like i mean i feel like this is not even
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that crazy compared to some of the other things we've talked about today but um yeah i think that
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you know moms a lot of times when there's like a lack of a father in the home that moms like can
04:07:01.100
gravitate towards their sons and then kind of develop this like relationship that's not a mother-son
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relationship it's more like a an actual relationship um and yeah i don't know if anybody else has
04:07:14.860
experienced something like that before but it's just like i think that was also part of the crazy
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dating story is that this this insanely close relationship between his son and his mother to
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the point where it almost gives like incestual i don't know it's just weird like um like i feel like
04:07:35.820
as a girlfriend it's uncomfortable for the the mom to be like holding hands with her son and like
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i don't it's just like too much like i feel like these type of dynamics like are not
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discussed enough and like it's just it's weird and that's my take on mother-son relationships
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he was holding hands with his mom in front of me yeah not holding my hand making me walk behind them
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how old was he 24 yeah that's fucked up weird well sometimes you need help crossing the street you
04:08:11.420
know when your mom can help was he white you know was it a white guy no it wasn't a white guy
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what but i don't think that's really relevant i'm just curious i'm just curious no he was black but um
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i don't think that that's really relevant wait why y'all not but um i feel like wouldn't you expect it
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more of a white guy though you know what i mean i don't know i think like the main i think i don't think
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it's really a racial thing necessarily i think it's just like it the common denominator though
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between like men who do this is always like the lack of a father figure in the home growing up so
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they they get this like kind of codependent relationship yeah yeah has anybody else at the
04:08:59.580
table uh experienced that no but i've seen it i've seen like pictures i don't know if you saw that
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picture that went viral of the mom like jumping into her high school son yeah he's like picking her
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up yeah or like the moms jake donated 100 dollars i'll reach later to chair one no need to have the
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pattern on your hand no man will ever notice it when it's being used i don't get it you don't have to
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get it wait oh i'm oh you're like okay is that henna or a tattoo yo jake thank you very much i have
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two more coming through uh there was one other 30 that kind of slipped by i'll let that one come
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through but guys we did bump it to these nates donated 30 dollars thank you i've dated an asian
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girl before that was obsessed with getting a white nose hating her beautiful flat asian nose look up emily
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win win no women should end up like her because they hate themselves i looked her up apparently
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she died lucas donated 30 dollars plastic surgery for the life of me i can't understand these modern
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day women's resistance to modest attire my film made my wife quit being an eagle's cheerleader when
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word uh okay uh thank you lucas did you have a quick response to the plastic surgery thing the
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nose one i don't think i want to be white just because i want to get a nose job i just want a
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prettier nose okay all right and then going over to megan here with some of your pre-show notes you
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said uh why don't you tell us the crazy story about the setting the car on fire thing oh
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tell us about that all right um so one time i met this guy at a club and like
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we had just met and like he was trying to like hook up and like i don't do that i'm demure i'm
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classy i don't need to hook up with guys i just meet you're a fucking liar you're a
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stop the cow that wasn't me that was andrew who did that i am not capping but anywho so i
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hung out with this guy twice and i wouldn't hook up with him so then he blocked my number and had
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me blocked for like two months and then he like grandly and blocked me and like i kind of missed
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him so we hung out and we're like watching a movie and he gets a call from his neighbor that his
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ex set his car on fire so he ran out and his car was in flames and yeah that could have been my car
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so luckily i didn't drive that's it i know i thought you set that car on fire too no i would never do
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something like that i would never okay and then you also uh wrote hey wait really quick just on that
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have any of you ever slashed a guy's tires no done anything to get revenge on an ex
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of course yeah go ahead i mean like but i'm not like that crazy but like i did
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throw like the playstation out um all the bags what you threw out his playstation yeah well broke the
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playstation what kind of monster are you what'd you do that for um i will he was cheating um
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well his playstation wasn't cheating well yeah so that but i don't think that that's that crazy i
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don't know the playstation phone had to go you just what else did you destroy i didn't destroy anything
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else but the bags were packed up and left out all of his stuff was moved out of our apartment and put
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into the hallway yeah that makes sense but like why destroy the stuff though um i that was like my
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initial reaction um yeah i don't know i was mad do you know what his gamer tag was up to like
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was he a call of dude was he a call of duty player no what what was he playing um
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um he would play like sports games then it's oh man a lot of work that's a lot of work tons
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of achievements unlocked he just destroyed it all well i i think the bigger issue was the phone which
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was that was also that also had to go like petition for men to not have phones a little closer than
04:13:22.140
mine i think yeah okay and uh i sent poop to a guy's house i can't believe you wrecked wait what
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what you what i said it was a combo pack of like gorilla like sheep like cow poop and i sent it to
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his house how did you get gorilla poop there's a website for it i can send it to you i love it
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see this is my former self i'm speaking about myself in the past people's houses or
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class i mean he deserved it how do you verify that how do you verify that like it's gorilla
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i know yeah did he reach out to you after uh yeah he did he said he he
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he thought it was kind of funny but also just like you're crazy and i'm like
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i guess you deserved it wait can you do that again that laugh later
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okay uh so okay megan you said you're modern you said modern dating is ratchet for a classy girl
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like me well like you but like me oh you know i just feel like people are like or i just feel like
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certain guys just like don't understand one good girl's worth a thousand bitches you know i mean
04:14:40.220
isn't yes it's a kanye verse that's a kanye yeah it still stands and i just feel like i'm gonna name
04:14:49.420
i shall name this argument the appeal to west argument huh go ahead go ahead just go ahead wait wait what
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i think it looks like all right andrew do you want to explain it well yeah i'm confused
04:15:02.620
kanye kanye west you're appealing to kanye west lyrics for your argument no i'm just saying it's like a
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good quote i don't know if he originated it i know he said it but it doesn't mean it came only from
04:15:13.740
him like maybe someone back in the day started it but i just think it's like the whole point is i feel
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like guys aren't very loyal nowadays and i'm a loyal girl and i just think not being loyal it's kind of
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ratchet but you said you're a classy girl i am a classy girl well i'm gonna have the uh the chat make
04:15:31.020
the determination here can you pull up her instagram wait and you know huh okay good all right scroll
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down scroll down wait what the heck i look classy right oh hold on slow it down a little bit okay
04:15:49.180
there's some bikini stuff careful andrew there's a bikini picture we don't want to trigger you
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yeah like a little uh okay it's cute it's adorable yeah i think it's good i mean there's you you know
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okay a little surfing thank you um yeah activities is it so chat classy or not classy classy not classy
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no boom hello there's the red hair i like uh like the little passive aggressive comment of uh-oh
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there's going to be bikinis andrew better watch out we insist on showing you our asses andrew
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there's the booty pic there there's you in uh uh thigh highs i was going through a gothic phase
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i was going through a phase uh-huh uh-huh okay i think we get the idea yeah class all right i think
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you're cute class class class um cool story bro i guess okay let's see i gotta get through the rest
04:17:00.940
of everybody's notes here we have oh she just went to the bathroom okay uh while we get to tony then
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tony uh you said you've been well you went over this earlier you've been single since age 23 you're
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not four to one never married no children you hate online dating it's a nightmare why are we doing this
04:17:19.260
uh funniest stories are bad message exchanges once a guy stiffed me with the bill when he went to the
04:17:24.380
bathroom yeah we were having dinner and then i guess he was done so he just yeah he went to the
04:17:31.020
bathroom and he never came back how long to wait for 15 20 did he text you like peace out no did you
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like order a lot of food or something or no he had like chicken wings and fries and he ate first
04:17:45.180
yeah oh yeah we had dinner talk about classy and then you said uh why do people move so fast it's
04:17:53.260
gross and this isn't the movies when i say i am dating i want to browse the market but then men think
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i'm sleeping around and i'm not it's all these hoes that give good women a bad name so i don't chat
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exclusively and it takes time to get to know someone uh and i don't have time to go on walks and drink
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coffee with one man at a time it doesn't mean i'm sleeping around also i'm only looking for actual
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men uh so there's a couple things there um you want to browse the market but then men think you're
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sleeping around and you're not i guess i was just thinking of one specific chat exchange where i was
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chatting with someone and then he was like hey i thought we were chatting what happened i was like
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oh sorry i was just chatting with someone else he's like this isn't gonna work out like i don't i
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don't do multiple people and i was like oh sorry i don't chat exclusively i'm just what do you mean
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where are you chatting with them yeah this was at a time when i was trying online dating and i have
04:18:44.620
since given that up but you told him you were chatting with someone else girl i'm doing this
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all wrong i came here for the lessons ladies well you shouldn't really well as as a guy would you be
04:18:54.220
like sorry i can't answer the phone i'm on the phone with my other girl like of course you wouldn't say
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that well that's not but that's not that's when you say that that sounds like um you know you're
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you're dating both of them uh and like intimate there's a like intimacy involved there so i think
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i think that you said your point was that you'll date multiple men you're not sleeping with them you're
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just going on dates right at a time i i would schedule uh maybe two or three coffee dates in the
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same week yeah never none of those i forgot a second date i mean because once i would move towards
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a second or a third date then um then there then you know there's a spark there's a spark if i'm
04:19:49.020
okay um you uh and when it the two to three dates a week
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oh was that i mean like pretty frequent for a period no i usually um i only last online for
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like two or three weeks at a time like i i only buy a month just to force myself to stick around
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for a minute usually after like two days i'm like why are you looking at me gross you said one time
04:20:12.380
your friend set you up with her friend he was very obese he was so very obese i'm like whoa well i
04:20:19.100
know what you think of me he had money but that doesn't cancel out this was the first message i
04:20:26.460
sent you i was drinking a little bit that night that's okay um yeah i had a friend set me up with
04:20:32.860
someone and so it was a blind date i went on a blind date and um i felt like i deserved a warning
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he was a little uh robust was he he was a little robust big back big big front
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insignificant actually all you need is enough compared like
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to you though like was he was significantly bigger i don't need a seatbelt extender okay
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just i'm just gonna circle back to the first uh barometer that i said all right uh okay and then
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you said here's a hot take with a general degree of relativity penis size cancels out body count
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i think i should have said that the other way around body count cancels out penis size but what is
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that so just explain it so essentially if you have a really high body count and you've seen and
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touched many of them then your barometer is your your scale your sample size is wide and deep and if
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you only had one or two then you wouldn't even know the difference you would just have one and enjoy one
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uh sir but i i also i also qualified that with a relative can you just clarify penis size cancels
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out body count i should have said it the other way around body count cancels out penis size but it
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goes vice versa um i don't even understand what you mean in that way so if you if you didn't have such
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a high body count then penis size wouldn't matter so much to you i see okay and and i also clarify or
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qualified it with a general degree of relativity i mean if you have a micro and it's your first one
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that you ever saw and then you might talk to your friends is this normal how small how small are they
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supposed to be i know the smart start out small but don't they get bigger how much bigger it's not
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very it's not getting very much bigger sure yeah uh you said that you want to honor and worship a man
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but you would never bow to a man even if he's your king i'm not a peasant i'm the queen
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um it was the first time that i ever saw you present the bowing argument that i that i had big
04:22:59.980
feelings and that's when i messaged you or got on your insta and i was like i i uh it felt like the type
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of ask where you would um so when you suggested it you never had the video before and when you first
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suggested it because it's not part of our our american culture the imagery that it drew up for
04:23:20.220
me was like this big grand bow that was kind of a production um but when i saw your video i was like
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oh that it's it's it's quaint it's simple it's an acknowledgement and i think i would need a tit for tat
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what do you mean he would have to bow back to you um no but um i think i would enjoy forehead kisses
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and so so you would i would bow to you or bow to a man i wouldn't bow to any man for the record
04:23:49.820
but a man who i really adored i would be willing to bow for him to him if i get forehead kisses that
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could be our trade that's something that would be important to me why does it have to be a trade
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why do you need me to bow because i want well the way that you frame it sounds transactional
04:24:11.580
like everything you do in a relationship has some type of transactional purpose
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i don't think that relationships or healthy marriages operate off of transaction they operate
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around um mutual love and adoration so the thing is is uh if a man wants to be bowed to
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right and a woman adores him why does there need to be a transaction i don't i don't really understand
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that part of it it seems to me that it's just obstinate or i just don't want to do it right
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and so in this way since i don't want to do it uh if you if you meet me in some place doing something
04:24:46.380
that you don't want to do then then it's acceptable well i guess i i wouldn't just start from the
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assumption that you don't want to do it um i would think that you would want to make me feel loved
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just like i'm trying to make you feel whatever it makes you feel by being bowed to i don't know what
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do you get out of it but this is the thing right is like say this guy makes you feel loved in a
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thousand different ways right just not in that way he considers this to be a grandiose posture from you
04:25:19.020
to uh observe your submissive nature to his authority so that's what he requires of you
04:25:25.340
right why does he need to do anything back like what what's even wrong with requiring that to begin
04:25:30.300
with really you know after after i after this topic was presented i started noticing of myself that
04:25:37.500
when i would walk into a room with people that i um want to acknowledge or honor i noticed that like
04:25:46.860
when i come into a room i kind of give a little nod and i was like oh i wonder if this is related to
04:25:51.500
what you're um expressing or or asking for is um is that not as kind of like the beginning of of about
04:26:01.020
no that's the no that's acknowledge understanding here just before before we get into it so the panel
04:26:07.500
is kind of more privy to what we're talking about go ahead and play the bow video this is my ex-girlfriend
04:26:14.140
i took this video uh boom huge bow taught her how to do that um so this is like after a long podcast
04:26:22.540
day like long day of work you know just getting home she's like getting the laundry all done
04:26:28.940
and uh she has the dinner ready um so this is kind of like the ideal dynamic for me
04:26:35.340
like she she wasn't perfect of course but you know um so dinner ready like there was the beer she
04:26:51.580
uh let it boom huge bow um so that's this is my expectation for a girlfriend i expected honestly
04:27:01.340
on the first date i need i need the bow on the first date um why why are you looking at me that way
04:27:11.900
why do you need the bow on the first date your mic down bro just leave that there come on bro i'm
04:27:17.740
changing the positions this is why the mic is yeah how about just you don't need to explain that just do
04:27:22.460
it why do you need the bow well i need you to tilt your mic down a little bit and then i can tell you
04:27:29.260
why why do you need the bow respect you do not feel respected without the bow this is a huge issue
04:27:38.540
you this is a problem how's the huge issue why it's monumental because this really has to do with
04:27:45.580
the self-perception of a man why don't you feel respected without the fucking bow what's the wow no
04:27:51.420
i still feel respected okay i need more respect though why were you hard what happened what's that
04:27:58.620
what why okay why why the presidents do not need the bow from any person that they meet or any any
04:28:05.500
other leaders or the people that actually in japan the hot country of the day um everybody bows to
04:28:14.540
each other and i kind of love it are you gonna you're gonna hit a bow oh i'm i'm literally like
04:28:19.260
that girl i swear to god okay let's see it right now you want me to bow for me okay you want me to
04:28:23.580
stand up stand up yeah let's see it wait wait whoa okay go go you gotta do it on camera wait they can't
04:28:31.180
even see you here go over there go go go behind the chair go behind the chair go kind of like
04:28:36.540
uh wait this way a little bit no back that way a little more a little more the microphone is
04:28:44.220
a little back that way you keep getting bro by the way it looks like the microphone's your penis just
04:28:50.300
right now i was looking out for you bro it looks surprise
04:28:54.220
nice that was good that was good well done um so yeah that's my requirement i'm very low
04:29:07.500
i wonder why why is it so hard for you to just scoot your chair into the table like
04:29:12.780
i don't get it bro can you just scoot your shit into the no bro i can't because her knees are here
04:29:17.980
and i don't have enough space for my knees all right well
04:29:20.940
fuck the table then it's the table table the whole pod no no i'm kidding i'm kidding shitty
04:29:25.340
small space um yeah i've softened to the bow since i first wrote your message i wrote i wrote you a
04:29:30.460
message the first time i heard going around the table would you bow for your man yes yes yeah
04:29:38.460
for the right man no no oh my after he bows for me all right into the mic please yes yeah
04:29:47.420
wait everybody said yes except i'm gonna start doing that actually maybe just put us on game
04:29:55.260
the feminist mind virus wants to tell you you shouldn't do this but like if your goal is to
04:30:01.740
actually secure the man i want my man to be happy he'll like it and i cook clean dinner will be ready
04:30:10.220
i'm i'm literally i i think that girl is great like honestly all these women you guys are like
04:30:15.900
complaining not you guys necessarily but a lot of women are complaining oh it's so hard out there
04:30:20.860
dating i can't find a relationship it's like why not try certain things to make yourself more appealing
04:30:28.940
set yourself apart first hit the bow ladies i'm just saying just try it even try it if you got a
04:30:34.460
boyfriend just do it to the boyfriend uh so tiff i have a question on it i'm wondering i knew a guy he
04:30:41.020
i was talking well it's a person i was recently talking to oh he said oh sorry go ahead go ahead go
04:30:53.260
wait did you freeze everything okay well uh i just there i have the moderation delay so actually okay
04:30:59.980
okay bam walking roscoe underscore on underscore youtube donated one thousand dollars pop champagne
04:31:09.660
yo roscoe thank you man sorry for the delay this group of gals are worth their dial tone
04:31:15.340
killing personalities weight in gold yo walking roscoe uh sorry to interrupt you there andrew i'll
04:31:22.220
just let this other one come in i'll let this one come in we had a delay on and i didn't catch it
04:31:28.380
it just i'll just get me the video and i'll open it perception's music donated 99 dollars and 99 cents
04:31:37.180
brian your videos broke people out of the normal life and opened their minds black girl you're cute
04:31:43.820
but you need to marry a white boy from that that would be culturally a couple of korean
04:31:49.100
you can't do it anyway this guy i was talking to he actually he actually said something about this bow
04:31:59.900
thing that i thought was pretty interesting i get the panel's take on it so i understand there's a lot
04:32:04.620
of women who would be uncomfortable with the bow but he said listen um this girl that he was with
04:32:10.700
she likes to get choked she likes it that's her big thing and he's super uncomfortable with it he does
04:32:16.940
not like it uh but he does it for her anyway because she likes it even though it makes him uncomfortable
04:32:24.220
she he still does it because she likes it if that's the case right i don't think anybody would object to
04:32:30.940
that that uh that he does this because she enjoys it so what would if if we're comparing this to the
04:32:38.620
idea of the bow um isn't this basically the same thing like okay you're uncomfortable with it but so
04:32:44.620
what you do it for him anyway because he likes it isn't that basically the same thing in reverse
04:32:51.580
i don't know i feel like i want to make my man feel like a king like i don't know if that's what it
04:32:55.580
takes and that's what it takes i actually looked it up after i um like a day after i sent that that
04:33:02.140
message asking do queens bow to their kings and um there were different schools yeah there were
04:33:08.620
different schools of thoughts they do and i was surprised to learn that yes they not only do they
04:33:14.780
but it was a requirement in most courts that they did upon acknowledgement bow and in many cases kneel
04:33:22.140
before they're king before they were even allowed to take the throne so for the day for the business
04:33:26.940
of the court so uh you i mean that's what thrones were it was to oversee the business of the court but
04:33:32.860
any in any case uh to my question if she likes to in this case if she likes to get choked and he's doing
04:33:41.100
that for her and he doesn't like it makes him uncomfortable but she likes it right uh unless you see a
04:33:48.140
problem with that i don't see how this wouldn't just be the same thing in reverse yeah that's
04:33:52.380
actually a fair analogy and it makes more sense to compare those things than the tit for tat that i
04:33:57.180
proposed because it would it um instead of a tit for tat it or a trade rather it's hey this is how
04:34:04.780
i want to be loved and then can you just jot that down and remember it yeah see that makes more sense
04:34:10.700
yeah bro i they don't sell the same champagne but it's one of these not there i don't get to twist
04:34:21.500
it six times i don't get to twist it six times it's one of these fucking weird ass uh it's not
04:34:27.980
the normal bro it's a different brand either these chats but the big capital l's just andrew but
04:34:36.060
l's for brian bro i've been killing it with the champagne bottles and like it's one of these
04:34:40.860
retarded new bottles it doesn't have the little twist six times and then it just give me l it won't
04:34:47.180
fucking open it's an l do you still have the cage there wasn't even a cage it's one of these
04:34:53.500
california oh my god bro fuck this brand bro i'm just gonna put this blend put put yo can we
04:35:00.300
see this shitty ass brand bro it says to twist it is like the deepest champagne you can buy hey don't
04:35:08.460
say that this is primo this is pretty bro look it's got this dumb ass fucking cap it doesn't even
04:35:14.860
fucking that's a twist does it have a broken do you have to break a seal you have to break the seal
04:35:21.020
yeah look who doesn't know i'm gonna add it to the women so they can open the bottle
04:35:26.300
good for you i twisted it bro i fucking twisted it dude fuck this bro roscoe fuck you no i'm just
04:35:33.100
kidding thank you for the champagne bro roscoe i'm gonna have to get a different champagne you
04:35:37.340
wouldn't want a woman to be able to open that and not you right all right here anisa sit down and
04:35:41.500
you try oh don't forget to bow don't let tell me right i loosened it is he still is he back here
04:35:50.140
fighting with it is he fighting with it right now he gave it to anissa yeah sit down he can't pass the
04:35:57.820
all right go ahead anissa wait do you have to open one i'm underage okay that's a girl bro watch i
04:36:08.540
loosened that i loosened that open the thing bro don't read it open it there's a seal at the bottom oh my gosh
04:36:42.460
for her bro i loosened it okay can we can we get some cups or something who wants the champagne
04:36:52.060
wait hold on let me check the the was that what the was that bro that's like literally wait uh
04:36:58.940
hold on champagne champagne champagne champagne yes thank you yeah you're 21 right yeah champagne
04:37:08.220
yes okay all right so everybody decides for you yeah let's let's get rid of the plates anissa can
04:37:14.140
grab those all right uh roscoe roscoe thank you thank you very much for the uh champagne pop
04:37:20.460
look i was doing really good there with the but they got rid of the bottles the other champagne
04:37:25.100
bottles so i had to buy my i'm hold on what's that i got some wait i'm never gonna financially
04:37:37.340
recover from this it's andre i think you'll be fine it's so over it's so over here i'll let these
04:37:46.060
other tts's come through while we get the champagne donated 100 blue you want children loving yourself
04:37:56.540
is loving your child your nose job can't change your genes they see mom hates their nose so much
04:38:04.140
she had hers fixed generational self-hatred is born why are you so obsessed with me she doesn't
04:38:11.420
she doesn't get one i get two oh so that's still not as bad one time i was in the studio
04:38:20.060
the legendary trash panda donated 100 dollars chair three baby girl you are looking at it the wrong way
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you pop me a little bow i immediately touch your cheeks and run my fingers through your hair and pull
04:38:33.340
you in for a full body kiss benefits bbg this cooming is out of control one time i was trying to polish
04:38:43.740
off the champagne bottle in the studio remember that brian and then i spilled it all over myself so i
04:38:48.380
think that was the worst hell probably probably all right uh cheers to oh no roscoe wait hold on
04:38:57.100
wait wait before we do the cheers for suffering through san diego weather iq collective which of
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these will be the crazy cat lady or toy chihuahua in the tiny purse chip uh roscoe my carpal tunnel i've
04:39:24.300
already got carpal tunnel we'll do give me a different brand though we have a couple different
04:39:27.740
brands give me a different brand uh here's to cheers to walking roscoe we're about to do round
04:39:33.020
round two uh you you can you got cheers with your water or whatever ladies that's bad luck yeah it is
04:39:39.260
bad luck is it okay never mind oh yeah thank you sir thank you oh this one good i got this one i got this one
04:39:46.780
all right uh san diego weather iq collective that's so oh that champagne's better than the other
04:39:53.580
brand okay um wow imagine if i can't this is your redemption arc bro this is your redemption arc
04:40:02.060
imagine imagine if i gave it to like the one of the two never mind can't pass the buck here bro this
04:40:10.540
is this is on you imagine if i gave it to cena and she just like open that shit super easy after i
04:40:18.220
loosened it for of course um pull that up i'll read it really quick yo realistic heart thank you so
04:40:26.220
much excuses take the elk and represent oh man look watch watch here's redemption here's redemption
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roscoe i appreciate you doing the the second champagne pop because this is my redemption this one has the
04:40:39.180
cage bro you gotta do it with the same bottle yeah uh oh you can't redeem yourself you gotta do it
04:40:45.980
with the same bottle holy bro what the fuck oh no oh no oh hold on i got it i got this i got this i got
04:41:06.620
oh fuck you have to warm it up oh man warm it up
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uh yo oh oh seven's in the chat good night guys
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is this a bit what are you talking about no it's not a bit
04:42:10.220
oh fuck hang on show us the top of that bottle so that we know it's not already open
04:42:14.940
what are you talking about yeah show us the top of the bottle so we know it's not already open
04:42:26.700
have you ever done this before i'm never gonna find any sugar toes
04:42:41.420
i want to be impressed looks like you got an exercise that hand worn look i don't watch porn and i
04:42:46.940
don't do that okay that's why i i don't masturbate shake weight
04:42:54.060
i don't masturbate that's why i can't open the champagne ball it's all you
04:43:01.020
fucking masturbation grip that allows you to do this because but because i am a a
04:43:09.980
fucking masturbating degen coomers in the chat because you guys masturbate
04:43:15.500
and i'm using my right hand i'm a lefty so if i did masturbate i use my left hand i'm not
04:43:19.900
using my left hand because all right i don't do that okay
04:43:30.380
bro what the who pranked me and super glued these fucking champagne bottles
04:43:58.940
bro dude do we have a different brand i kind of just want
04:44:04.380
look at my fucking dude my hands is like in pain right now look at this
04:44:26.220
wait is that yours no it isn't okay who wants more champagne everybody okay
04:44:31.660
here i'm gonna chick here's what i'll do episode where the chick like broke all the lobster with
04:44:36.700
her hands i'll pass it around if you guys just pour for yourselves okay
04:44:46.780
shniko o4 donated one hundred dollars oh my god you see chat we are watching brian
04:44:52.140
finally hitting the gym and doing his workout struggling with a champagne bottle for 15 minutes
04:45:13.500
look look man i my staff super glued as a prank they must have super glued the champagne bottles i
04:45:23.660
i i destroyed 50 percent 90 percent the the the super glue and i loosened it for for the for the women
04:45:36.780
wimpy i was talking about grip strength like do some deadlift or something i was talking about grip
04:45:40.220
strength like do some deadlift or something all right thank you realistic heart i appreciate that
04:45:45.420
okay well here's another cheers walking roscoe if you send another one i literally will i and i i will
04:45:53.900
send another one i have to i have to let her run run the show she gets the whatever channel all right
04:46:05.100
oh man good good talk good talk yeah it's double shop brian that was beautiful
04:46:18.940
that's beautiful uh well roscoe thank you very much for your generosity
04:46:27.100
how about that okay what is why is the okay i i have to know what's up how come the water you
04:46:37.980
drink is always green is always what green green get your first off get your eyes
04:46:46.700
it's it's urine colored get it right yeah yeah why why okay you want to know the secret juice i'll
04:46:54.860
tell you the secret juice andrew i will tell you the secret juice if what's in the secret juice if
04:47:10.300
and do the rest of the show no just kidding uh i don't know what chat what what do you want
04:47:14.460
andrew to do for me to reveal what is in the secret juice i think andrew you
04:47:29.660
i can't think of anything you need to say five nice things about women
04:47:33.740
let's uh let's uh let's manage let's manage expectations here okay
04:47:44.300
i mean uh come on give cut the guy some slack give him a break
04:47:48.940
that's that's hold on it's uh why not just ask me to solve world hunger while you're at
04:47:54.300
i don't know man that sounds like a lot of work it's crazy man oh my god uh andrew i will reveal
04:48:11.820
somebody help me please i can't think when i'm tipsy
04:48:15.420
stand up and bow to us i like that one to the women
04:48:38.300
okay look i'll just review fine i'll just reveal it's water
04:48:51.980
and two ricolas per bottle two of the lemon mint ricolas
04:49:00.940
oh okay indeed and the honey soothes the throat too okay that makes sense yeah you know we do a
04:49:06.060
a lot of talking andrew in fact andrew if you want the recipe i can give it to you
04:49:10.060
no i'm all good because you talk a lot you might get i listen heaven forbid something happens you
04:49:16.220
you get strain your voice you talk too much you're doing like 20 tick tock invasions a week
04:49:22.300
yeah but i have been voted multiple times as having the sexiest voice on tick tock so
04:49:28.540
that's cool it's extremely yeah wait so we stated it's stated all the time and i have no idea why it's
04:49:40.860
brian love you bro but that's the fattest tell you have ever taken even more than the very
04:49:49.980
are they still spamming l's in the chat um are they still spamming the l's
04:49:55.820
probably not but now that you reminded them andrew
04:50:03.180
thank you unbelievable how could you betray me friends like me
04:50:09.420
look you know what this isn't the first time i failed to open
04:50:18.540
damn trader joe's why did you get rid of the german bottles okay
04:50:22.380
good talk uh we were we're talking about you see why the french lose all the wars
04:50:29.020
look okay the french are very physically strong people
04:50:33.340
you're not look you're an islander you're an islander andrew and uh yeah the islander that's
04:50:39.740
won every war with france that is not true napoleon it is true we beat napoleon boy
04:50:46.140
we beat napoleon well you guys have a geographical advantage
04:50:51.660
because wait but the your own islanders you're irish andrew that your own islanders
04:50:57.660
you're warring amongst yourselves okay as well i'm irish and english oh excuse me excuse me andrew
04:51:04.860
excuse me look so half of me was sent in conscription to the other half of me to kick the holy
04:51:10.620
shit out of all of you you see that's that's how that worked look i'll tell you look here's why
04:51:17.420
you guys maybe if i even grant your argument that you guys have greater physical strength
04:51:22.780
is your cuisine is dog shit you literally like your bread you have to like have
04:51:28.060
fucking strong man strength to break the british bread
04:51:32.620
us everything is hard to you in in in france you don't have you don't have our cuisine andrew
04:51:42.380
and that is precisely why i have these dainty piano fingers and you have maybe if you weren't so damn
04:51:49.420
busy eating all of that delicious food the germans wouldn't have taken over your country in three
04:51:53.660
weeks look andrew there's geographical g there's there's geopolitical you know look you have you're on
04:52:01.660
an island you have fucking advantages france germany they're next to each other okay it that's how
04:52:09.420
it is and and you lost to the country that was right next to you in three weeks
04:52:16.620
and they made your country surrender in the same carriage that your country made them surrender in
04:52:23.660
after the first world war i just want to point that out i want to go home
04:52:27.980
look andrew look that may be true but we have contributed more to the cuisine of the world
04:52:45.660
so take that and put it in your pipe and smoke it
04:52:50.060
stick that in your pipe and smoke it all that in the bag of chips
04:52:53.340
so it's an argument from food it's an argument from cuisine yes what is fancy what french dish
04:53:03.660
is even famous like the croissant yes the thing you can get a burger king baguette you can literally
04:53:09.500
go through a burger king with a piece of sausage on it that's what you're famous and that's yeah
04:53:15.580
yeah that's cultural appropriation and i'm very offended that burger king is appropriating our
04:53:22.620
cuisine yeah i'm gonna go get a sausage croissant tomorrow in uh in honor of the french people
04:53:37.500
about things that you know i can articulate but i'm not going to because you would be embarrassed
04:53:44.540
you would just be embarrassed if i did so take the l andrew and just take just you know i'll just take
04:53:52.140
the hell that's fair so anyways the legendary flash panda donated 100 dollars brixen bro bro bro
04:54:07.340
for hosting manosphere content that was the least manly thing ever now bread chair three bbg you will
04:54:15.020
wear the finest dresses and jewelry at my side let me at them feet go okay hang on hang on in bright
04:54:23.180
okay no no way i'm letting this go there is no way on earth that i'm gonna let a foot pick requesting
04:54:32.220
degenerate like yourself ever say a word cross about mr atlas because man your coomerism is on never
04:54:43.180
before seen scales you're donating to a show to request feet pits you degenerate okay i'm just saying
04:54:55.260
panda dude that's a that's a bad again for me i'm just saying that's a fatter elven can't open the
04:55:02.780
bottle bro wait say that again panda do it again for me that's fucking disgusting
04:55:13.180
levels what the why did you encourage it why did you encourage it oh man i'm literally giving you
04:55:21.820
more money by provoking yeah but but can you just be honest and say you're never going to send this
04:55:28.620
guy feet pics right huh what'd you say sorry you're not going to send this guy feet pics are you
04:55:33.340
no no no i didn't think so land graf von labia donated one hundred dollars
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disavow disavow disavow you know what's fucked up you know like trash panda did all that and i i
04:56:05.020
feel like you're actually considering it though so maybe it wasn't all for not from trash pan that
04:56:10.060
actually makes me uh makes me seconding i'm like damn maybe she's considering sending this guy feet
04:56:16.060
pic it seemed like you were it seemed like you had to think about it for a few minutes you were just
04:56:20.540
like well yeah maybe i'll put all 10 digits on a photo for you know like it seemed like there was
04:56:27.500
a possibility for trash pan so oh we were talking about the bow video so we'll wrap up on that and
04:56:33.660
then we'll get through the rest of the notes um in addition to the bowing i on the first date i expect
04:56:39.500
her to do my laundry how do you get her to her to your house on the first date easy bro you picked
04:56:45.660
hoes huh you picked a hoe that would go to your house on the first date i picked a very classy girl
04:56:52.060
to go to my house all the classy girls go to your house first date of course that's that's how it is
04:56:59.020
she do my laundry fold in fact what is this criticism you're talking to other men on your first
04:57:05.500
date like what what do you talk what do you mean that's not that's not a good criticism to be like
04:57:10.300
brian has a girl over to his house on the first date if you're texting other guys on the first date
04:57:15.100
it's like what not on the date just pre what you said it was on the date no not on the date while
04:57:23.660
i'm chatting with some this happened one time when i was chatting with someone and then he was like
04:57:28.220
where'd you go i thought we were chatting and i was like oh sorry i was on another chat
04:57:32.700
i wasn't on a date it wasn't on a date i was like i was on my couch getting to know you phase right
04:57:40.780
i i stated earlier you can't really get to know somebody via messaging it's i'm just trying to get
04:57:45.420
to the date so i can actually meet you i can learn so much more in five minutes of being in person not
04:57:50.540
that i know everything about you in 10 minutes that's not my claim but i can catch a vibe where
04:57:55.340
you can't you can't catch a vibe and messaging not in my opinion i don't mean to be rude but you're
04:57:59.180
too old to say that catch a vibe okay damn i think that the hippies came up with that shit
04:58:06.860
though brian like i'm too old to say no no but i'm not i'm not trying to be mean to you i'm too
04:58:15.420
old to say catch a vibe how old are you 35 how would you like me to phrase it no but you can say
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catch a vibe no no yeah there's just you are a hippie like for example i'm 35 okay hold on i'm not
04:58:27.900
allowed to say bet okay i can't say bet who told you that i i that's a 90s that's a 90s thing though
04:58:36.460
bet yeah yeah i mean you're fucked up i feel like you're not allowed to say thank you thank you
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that's super like past two years you're like you're like you know you're cool there's certain
04:58:47.820
things i wouldn't say no i'm pretty sure that pretty sure that's a 90s thing bro yeah no i was
04:58:53.180
in the 90s i was in the 90s too people said that i've never heard enough in a movie or anything like
04:59:02.620
from that era or even when i was young people weren't saying bet in the way they're saying bet
04:59:08.780
like it's like an acknowledgement like bet yeah yeah no people were not saying that's a chat we're
04:59:17.100
no no yo chat chat did they say bet in the we said you bet you
04:59:23.820
no bet is like a 20 20. i heard it's like a within the one it's like a 2020s thing
04:59:32.220
here i'm gonna google this shit hold on yeah bet you so much more i don't even know okay if i
04:59:38.300
actually fuck it who cares um okay things for first date but when it comes to doing my laundry
04:59:43.820
i take it a step further she has to do that shit on a washboard she doesn't get a laundry machine
04:59:54.380
that she has to use also clothes lines she doesn't get a dryer either
04:59:58.460
also i expect within the first first three dates she has to churn butter
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that's right if she doesn't know how to churn butter she ain't the one have you met nara smith
05:00:10.940
no oh who the fuck is that guy i think at times that you're intentionally provocative absurdly
05:00:17.660
provocative when it comes to laundry right when it comes to laundry if she won't find someone who will
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also she should be able to make me a quilt a what a quilt you don't know about quilts cena
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you should get with the game get with the program you don't know about quilts bet bet
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i also would like a pair of moxic moxicans moccasins my bad and she has to knit me a cardigan
05:00:59.820
according to who a virgin dwarf under 25 who knows how to knit churn butter jesus
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according to my words you know your words i know my words okay okay that's good
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i'm a strong independent king all the knitters i know are virgins under 25
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are you are you okay yeah are you are you because what you just mentioned i mean
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she's i don't know if you can hear her she's cackling in the bathroom wait wait be quiet
05:01:55.740
can you guys hear that yeah she's cackling in the bathroom okay awkward uh wait where were we okay
05:02:03.820
pre-show notes okay back to the pre-show notes so why not really quick tiffany why won't you know
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you're kind of traditional ish i guess yeah why don't you why wouldn't you do the battle
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because i'm not your maid i'm your wife we're on equal standing and we don't live in the 1950s
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well you're christian right yeah so what does that have to do with anything
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standing what are you talking about yeah it goes
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what is the what are you an egalitarian christian christianity is a patristic faith
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patriarchy yeah it is it is but yeah we're of equal value
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yeah you're of equal ontological value nobody would ever say otherwise nobody would ever say
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that a woman by bowing i'm kind of saying it's like kind of implying that i'm like lesser than you
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ah now we get to the heart of it so what you're saying is is you don't want to do it because there's
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an implication there so yes christianity is a patristic faith you can see bowing all over the bible
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you bow to god you're supposed to treat your husband if you're saying not bowing to your husband
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isn't christian that's just like so stupid all right well i'd like to know then are you
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supposed to submit to your husband as you are unto the lord yes and would you bow to god yes
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your husband is not your god i'm sorry are you supposed to submit to your husband as you would
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unto the lord would you like me to read it for you here i'll read it for you i just want to make sure
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that uh the bible that we don't get this right we'll just make sure this is ephesians 5 22
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wives submit to your husbands as to the lord so i just want to i just want to know is part of your
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submission to god bowing that's for you go ahead tiffany
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um i don't know you you're kind of interpreting it in a weird way answer the question yes i'm just
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wondering is part of your submission to god bowing
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technically you kneel yeah i mean you kneel you would you wouldn't bow i'm sorry you don't ever bow your
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head to pray damn you do while you pray oh you do that's crazy and who are you praying to god
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and is that a form of submission when you bow your head yeah and are you supposed to submit
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it is a form of submission but it's also kind of a form of worship
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you wouldn't worship your husband andrew ask that question again yeah so here's the question
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very simple you agree with me that you bow your head for prayer yes and who are you bowing your head
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to god and is that a form of submission to god yes but it's also hold on hold on let me ask the
05:05:06.940
question okay yeah and do you agree that ephesians 5 22 says wives submit to your husbands as to the
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lord yeah that's it okay so then if you are to bow to god as a form of submission and you are to
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submit to your husband as you went on to the lord what could your objection to bowing possibly be
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bowing is a form of worship you don't you don't worship your husband bowing is a form of worship
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yeah it is prove it you prove it you i don't need to prove it's your claim it isn't how do i how do i
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how do i prove your claim that bowing is worship wait also andrew you're saying so you're saying in
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every asian country when they bow to each other they're worshiping each other so they're all a bunch
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of heretics so all christians it depends on the culture even in asia all christians in asian nations
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are heretics no because even in asia wives don't bow to their husbands you do that with a stranger
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or someone older than you as what a sign of what respect a sign of respect and submission to their
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yeah what do you mean their station a submission to their station in south korea north korea japan
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any of these asian nations if somebody is your boss you bow as a form of submission to their authority
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yeah yeah oh okay that's really weird so it's not heretical for them to do it but somehow for you
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it becomes worship can you explain how it's possible that you could submit in asia where
05:06:51.900
the workers bow to their boss they don't asian wives don't bow to their husbands
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on underscore youtube donated one thousand dollars pop champagne oh no one more round for the
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lightweight sitting in chair force one i got i got this continue with the conversation go ahead tiffany
05:07:12.860
yeah yeah so uh i'm sorry this is very confusing to me where did you come up with the idea that asian
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wives don't bow to their husbands no um from being in asia which part south korea south korea
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they definitely bow to their husbands yeah no they don't i'm literally they definitely do yeah they
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definitely do no they don't not only do they so here's the thing right no they don't okay where's your
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proof where is your proof brought himself back that one video and wife and yeah that chick bowed that
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chick bowed oh yeah she came from a highly traditional family and she bowed all the time oh suck it suck it
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that's right baby that's right took three tries w
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you suckers you thought you would get you thought you're gonna get hat trick roscoe but no
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denied denied roscoe boom roasted sorry go ahead keep talking about that so you you speak do you speak korean
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yeah yogi mechujusio um give me beer yeah give me beer woman give me beer i only know that because
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my brother right stationed in korea came back with a korean wife who bowed her fucking head to him all
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the time so i'm pretty intricately familiar with the culture and the expression of the culture and yet
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wives definitely bowed their husbands no they don't i have like four they definitely do yeah they
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definitely do yeah it's very common now maybe now you could make the argument that some don't
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i'm sure that they don't but uh but yeah culturally that was something that happened in korea basically
05:09:06.780
in fact for traditional women right that still happens uh to this day in korea no i don't think so
05:09:14.300
oh okay when's the last time you went to korea this summer and you did and you're saying that no
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wives are bowing their heads no that's so weird that's just weird no one does that yeah they do it
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but okay i do want to say you've been in korea i haven't i haven't been to korea but again
05:09:39.340
get to the again but again it doesn't matter you can still be familiar with the culture even if you
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have not been in the culture and in any case none of that refutes the argument that that vowing is
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worship that's that would be saying that all japanese people are worshiping anytime they bow to each
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other that makes no sense it depends on the culture it depends on the context so why would the culture why
05:10:09.100
the bow here instantly mean worship then that makes that makes no sense we got to do a cheers
05:10:14.860
really quick to to roscoe by the way the other three champagne bottles we have wait for me wait
05:10:20.220
for me i gotta have a woman bring me down a drink oh okay just give me give me give me give me one
05:10:24.460
minute woman i know you're listening to this broadcast bring down a double for me and then
05:10:30.460
fucking now while you're at no i'm kidding i'm joking it was funny but anyway oh uh that we have
05:10:37.900
three remaining champagne bottles and they're all the first brand that i struggled to open
05:10:47.740
you can still get your hat trick you can still get the hat trick just saying just saying uh oh we have
05:10:54.300
our friend selena gornez selena gornez donated one hundred dollars i have to sleep but before i do i have
05:11:03.660
to say you're on britson bet has been a thing since the 90s been saying it my whole life it has many uses
05:11:11.100
but none are new the slang term bet originated in african-american vernacular english aave and likely
05:11:19.820
comes from the gambling word world bet is used to express okay blah blah origin oh fuck the term was
05:11:29.660
recorded in a collection of campus slang in the 1990s and was likely popularized by black
05:11:36.700
popular culture wait when was this look dude when look fuck google this is fucking bullshit i did not
05:11:44.700
start hearing bet used in this way until like 2020s until the 90s are you familiar with african-american
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watch this don't do it don't do it don't do it i was just gonna say i wasn't gonna say the n-word
05:12:09.820
you thought i was gonna say the n-word or something no no no i was just gonna say word up
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the shizzle my nizzle keep my arms so brizzle why you don't look at me that way bet bet brian
05:12:33.340
not sure if i'm gonna get cancelled okay so good talk i tried to save it
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i you know look you asked if i was fluent the legendary trash panda donated 100
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baby girl do you want a man who randomly touches the back of your neck comes behind you while doing
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dishes and embraces you kissing you your hair is perfect right now and fits your beautiful face
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all right brian i'm ready for the cheers now you know what panda by the end of this podcast i
05:13:09.820
start liking you thank you to to roscoe to roscoe saloon
05:13:15.820
what is he drinking he's drinking double shots of vodka or no it's everclear actually he's
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everclearing salina gone is donated 100 okay brixton bet look i
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am i just getting yeah you're insane man you looked it up yourself i'm getting gas lit
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yeah maybe look maybe the term existed in a small no it was in movies it was in 90s movies
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and all the stupid ass rom-coms you'd hear some dummy say bet it no somebody find me a clip clip it
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send it to me if it's true i will concede to andrew that
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never mind um anyways good talk oh how do you feel about the term cooked is it
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that's new i love this term are you cooked i'm i'm kind of cooked i'm like
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you've been getting cooked that's for sure yeah uh do you guys use it i love this it just cracks me
05:14:44.940
up all the time were you cooked before or after you got that back of head tattoo
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that's just yeah so what's your mental diagnosis no no no no no no no no no no no no no no i'm
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totally healthy but you know the goofy you know aspect of me it's it's cooked i'm totally yeah you're
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oh hey hey brian i got the clip i got the clip it's from kid and play brian it's from kid and play bet
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brian yeah brian send it what what now brian what now all right uh send it to my instagram sir
05:15:25.100
send it to my instagram duck tails they found it somebody said they found it well listen up
05:15:32.860
okay sounds good um what were we talking about here let's get through the notes we gotta get
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through the notes here you know gotta get through the notes uh going back to you tony
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we talked about the obese guy uh oh you oh you okay this whole stemmed from you said you want to
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honor and worship a man but you never bow to a man even if he's your king i'm not so even like
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your perfect man you wouldn't bow for your perfect man i've already revised my position on this when we
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first started talking about it that um the more i've learned about what what it looks like it's not
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quite as um big of a production as i originally imagined in my head and when i saw the video i've i've
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i've softened into this idea um but not for any man and not on the first date but for the right man
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i would do what he needs to feel special sure you said you want to be submissive to man and follow his
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lead but that doesn't mean that i shouldn't have any input that should be fairly considered in big
05:16:34.940
decisions does negotiation and compromise have a place in relationship how does that fit into absolute
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submission andrew probably would like to have a back and forth with you on this one um and can i add
05:16:46.460
something to that sure um because this is something that we talked about earlier what if i'm the
05:16:53.900
primary income earner in a relationship and maybe that's not ideal but when it comes to abs if if i was
05:17:01.660
the if i was more of the provider would the expectation of the role change like or would i be expected to
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relinquish all of my income to the man to make decisions with it i yes you you would and i'll explain why
05:17:16.300
i'll just die alone if i were to start dating kylie jenner yeah she's gonna listen to me
05:17:29.500
i will i will explain my rationale before you say you want to die alone yeah yeah i and i i i like
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hearing your yeah let's start let's start with this if you had to put a value on on something what is the
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most valuable thing you can think of the most valuable thing you could ever envision the thing
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which if it's taken away can never be gotten back
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i would say i would say life life okay say life would you disagree with that
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no you can never get that back yeah right once it's taken you can never get it back
05:18:10.220
a man's obligation is to die on your behalf so if there's a threat or danger to you his job's to die
05:18:16.460
before you die you cannot replace that so he cannot be replaced by anything else because his job's to
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sacrifice himself for you so yeah you give up the money and you give up the control you give up the
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power but the exchange to all of that is that when the lifeboats go off of the titanic who gets in them
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first who gets in them first women and children yeah women and children so if the man is to be the sacrifice for you
05:18:46.700
he gives his life for you then why is it problematic for you to turn over the dominance in a relationship to him
05:18:53.980
i don't want to be the dominant but especially if i'm the breadwinner i would want significant
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consideration for my women don't die for men ever they don't ever die for men men die for women all
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the time non-stop women do not sacrifice their lives for men you can't show me a historic standard
05:19:20.620
anywhere where that's ever happened they don't do it there may be some exceptions where some woman
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has done self-sacrifice on behalf of a man for her life versus his essentially it never happens i mean
05:19:32.940
for all practical purposes men are always the ones who give up their lives on behalf of women and
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children their actual life now uh you can make an argument that well a woman gives up her life over
05:19:45.180
years of time and blah blah but that would apply to men too men actually lay their lives down defense
05:19:50.860
of you defense of the nation defense of your home defense of your honor defense of your pride defense
05:19:55.180
of your name they lay their lives down for everything here's an example of this right i just want to ask
05:20:00.940
the panel and we can ask the entire panel this question and i think that through this we'll be able
05:20:06.300
to reason this out if a man who you are with you're walking down the street and another man insults your
05:20:13.900
honor do you think that it's appropriate and would you want the man that you're with to protect your honor
05:20:23.340
meaning if uh if a man you're with you're walking down the street arm in arm another guy comes by and
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pinches your ass don't you prefer that your man turns around and smacks him across the mouth raise a hand
05:20:33.820
yeah that's right that's right i have an anecdote about and and hang on when does that happen
05:20:42.620
in reverse not often so the thing is is that men are always there putting by the way a physical
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confrontation with another man doing that on your behalf leads to death it leads to death for men just
05:20:56.060
protecting your honor leads to death for men all the time in fact more men in the united states are killed
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with feet and hands than they are with ar-15s because this is such a happenstance that currently
05:21:07.820
it happens so often that men engage in physical combat with each other often on behalf of women's
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honor this does not happen in reverse so since that is the case yeah give up your money yeah give up your
05:21:19.980
money give up your control because that's what you get in exchange we don't get that in exchange who's
05:21:25.100
dying for us not you not women women aren't dying for men show me where women are collectively dying
05:21:31.420
for men anywhere ever nowhere nowhere go ahead i'm waiting i want to hear not giving birth to their
05:21:40.460
child collectively when collectively can you guys name that women have ever died on behalf of men
05:21:48.700
lay their lives down on behalf of men give me childbirth
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childbirth no they don't do it during childbirth they're not doing it on behalf of men they're
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doing it on behalf of their children they're doing it on behalf of um i think women are doing it on
05:22:01.260
behalf of the baby that their man put inside of them so i would argue that they are doing it for
05:22:05.900
men and a man is not physically capable of doing that now they kill their children now they kill them
05:22:12.620
they don't even bother having them okay wait nobody was talking about that
05:22:16.220
yeah but we are talking about that isn't half of the baby you saying that you saying that you will
05:22:22.220
birth your child you're not doing that on behalf of your man that's insanity a child can be a man as
05:22:28.540
well right i think you mean like you're a man like okay you're your partner yeah we're talking about
05:22:34.940
somebody who is doing the thing for the purpose of the protection of x thing men lay their lives down
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and the historic standard that i can appeal to is that men collectively always lay their lives down
05:22:49.020
for women so protecting your baby hang on stop stop let me finish the reverse never happens point to me
05:22:55.820
where the reverse ever happens okay so protecting your baby by giving childbirth isn't enough
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i don't even know what that means what does that even mean
05:23:07.100
so abortion or not it's it's the same it's not protecting your child but you're if you're
05:23:15.580
very you're burying your child you're not doing that on behalf of your man you're doing that on
05:23:19.900
behalf of you and the child yeah so a child can be a man as well right no a child's not a man no what
05:23:28.380
what what that would be a boy masculine then i think that's just like a women's role though that men are not
05:23:36.780
capable of so i mean you are doing it on behalf of your joint couple as a woman and you are risking
05:23:44.060
your life expected to do this for strangers children and strangers women otherwise we would
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not have the lifeboat analogy would we i think it's also kind of like a dangerous thing though i think
05:23:57.260
like you should answer to what i actually just said which is why do we have the lifeboat analogy that
05:24:02.300
women and children get on the lifeboats first i'm not disagreeing with you those aren't my women and
05:24:06.460
my children why do they get on the lifeboats first i'm not disagreeing with you that that's a man's
05:24:11.180
role but i'm just saying that i do think that a woman going through childbirth is an example of her
05:24:16.860
doing something that's risking her life on behalf of a man they're not doing it on behalf of men
05:24:21.820
you're doing it on behalf of your husband you're doing it on behalf of your husband who put the child
05:24:27.740
inside of you you're not doing it first of all most childbirths are not even done anymore by the
05:24:31.980
husband why half these chicks get knocked up by some random guy they never even talked to again
05:24:36.780
how are you doing on behalf of men why do women and children get in the lifeboat because men have
05:24:43.020
always been sacrificial lambs on behalf of other men and women and children because you're the weaker
05:24:48.700
sexes and you both both women and children look you laugh how am i wrong i'm sorry are women the stronger
05:24:55.740
weaker sex does it have anything to do with women and children can inform the future more so than men
05:25:01.900
like children can grow up to be men to sacrifice and one man can repopulate against 50 women but
05:25:09.500
women are limited to only being able to be pregnant from one man at a time yes so no that argument makes
05:25:15.580
no sense either but there have to be the truth is is that one single man could repopulate the earth
05:25:20.700
one woman could not one single man could repopulate the entire planet earth as long as there were
05:25:26.860
women you could screw a different chick and impregnator a woman cannot do that but that's why we need
05:25:33.180
each other when you talk about the necessity of the future a single woman could not be necessary to
05:25:38.300
the future whereas a single man could be yeah i agree that men and women should be on earth
05:25:44.700
both of them oh well i mean that's great what a great argument i also agree that they deserve to be
05:25:51.260
on earth yeah men are stronger but they need women and and women i agree that the whatever podcast
05:25:56.620
studio should have windows i mean i don't know yeah i agree as well yeah we both not need each other
05:26:02.380
right so yeah well yeah okay but this has nothing to do with my argument this has nothing to do with my
05:26:11.740
argument oh but you can have so here's my argument ready i'm going to tell you my argument again
05:26:15.900
because you just don't seem to understand it right men collectively lay their lives down for women women
05:26:21.100
collectively do not lay their lives what about women in the military what about them are they not like
05:26:26.700
i'm sorry do you think that the military is made up of mostly men or women no no i'm just speaking
05:26:31.340
about these specific women in the military who are they like what is what is what do you think the
05:26:36.700
word collectively means i'm asking you a question and i'm asking women in the military women in the
05:26:43.660
military restate my argument i'm restating my question yeah women in the military i need you to
05:26:50.300
contend with the argument okay first can you restate my argument this has nothing to do with what i'm
05:26:55.660
talking about can you restate my argument your argument is that women do not lay their lives down
05:27:00.860
for men women in the military have signed up my argument you're lying yes the collective group of
05:27:07.980
women in the military collectively the group of them what does the word collective mean the group of
05:27:13.100
women in the military that would be the collective of women in the military are laying their lives down
05:27:19.500
that is a collective of women okay so so just to get this right just get this right i just want to
05:27:25.180
make sure that that that we're correct here let's let us assume for a second that if we're looking
05:27:30.540
at all the prisons in the united states with prison guards and you have one prison that has more female
05:27:35.580
guards than men but all the other prisons have more male guards than they do women when you say the
05:27:41.500
word who collectively make up the most amount of prison guards okay the majority you would say well yes
05:27:48.780
it's men except in this one prison who gives a it has no bearing on the argument at all
05:27:55.020
okay so women in the military are not laying their lives down for men they're only laying their
05:27:59.580
lives down for american women i'll tell you what give me a war name any war you want and i'm going
05:28:04.540
to tell you the combat deaths of women in that war from being let's speak in present times when
05:28:11.100
let's speak in present time present war there's present war i'm talking about present wars that we
05:28:16.780
are i'm not present wars too okay present war okay i think that you're just upset that i i
05:28:22.460
disproved your point and it's okay it's okay it's okay women lay their lives down for men too
05:28:30.140
it's okay can you answer my question can you give me a present war and i'll give you the deaths the
05:28:34.620
military deaths but there's not an equal number of men and women in the military or a majority of women
05:28:40.220
in the military so of course there's going to be more men who die if you put more men out to die
05:28:45.500
more men will die then we can do it per capita right so we can take the percentage of women who are in
05:28:50.700
the military who die versus a percentage of men but are there women in the military dying on behalf
05:28:55.740
of men yes or no just do that by per capita right okay we can just do it per capita okay no i'm asking
05:29:02.380
you are there women in the military who are dying on behalf of men women there are some women who die
05:29:07.820
in the military yes okay on behalf of men that would not show that the collective of women are willing
05:29:13.180
to die on behalf of men i can do well i think that when when the military is 50 50 let's revisit this
05:29:19.660
conversation and then i guess let's visit it right now we have visited it and i think you don't want
05:29:24.780
to visit it anymore i'm i want to visit it right this second i've been visited it i've been visited it
05:29:30.940
and i told you that women give me a war in modernity any word fact that you want and i will give you the
05:29:38.780
combat deaths of women in that war and we'll match but let's look at the military enrollment of women
05:29:44.380
it's not let me finish let me finish i think currently we're in war with him so let me finish
05:29:48.220
so that you can understand my point i will take the per capita deaths of women in that war the
05:29:53.900
percentage and we'll match them towards men in the same role who do you think dies more okay yeah but
05:29:59.580
are women assigned the same combat roles as men that's what i just said you're not even listening
05:30:04.860
so no but i'm but i'm saying women are willing to do those roles are they assigned to them though
05:30:09.820
it's like talking to a brick wall you don't even understand what i'm saying i do understand what
05:30:13.500
you're saying you're saying per capita deaths so like talking i can give you the argument go ahead
05:30:19.020
okay i will take all of the combat roles of women all of them match them against all the combat roles
05:30:28.140
of men in the same exact capacity and then we can see who dies more in those capacities in combat
05:30:34.220
maybe women are just smarter that's why they don't get killed get the argument out you're already
05:30:38.140
freaking out i can't even get the argument very calm yeah okay so anyway i will take all of the combat
05:30:45.020
deaths match it against the percentage of women in those roles versus men and then we can determine
05:30:50.780
per capita how many women in the same exact role die versus men which one do you think dies more in
05:30:58.060
the role versus the percentage of them in that role can i respond andrew yes i think you just proved
05:31:03.820
that women do the job better and don't get killed oh i don't know what you're proving that women have
05:31:10.700
done the job better and are not getting killed what i mean isn't that what you just proved that you're
05:31:20.140
dumb as a box of fucking rocks is that not what you just proved though that if women and men are doing
05:31:26.620
the same combat roles and men are dying at a higher rate than the women doing the roles clearly these
05:31:31.500
roles should only be assigned to women then it's because women are not assigned the way that they
05:31:35.980
assign them in combat right the women are still given a lesser job even in the combat that's what
05:31:41.820
i just said before that though i said that women are not assigned the same roles you said let's talk
05:31:46.220
about men and women in the same roles but that's not that's not how i don't know why i don't know why
05:31:50.940
you don't understand this you can be infantry and a woman you could be assigned the role of infantry and a
05:31:57.820
woman you can even be said to the nation as infantry as a woman right and with the the male infantry
05:32:04.460
that is the same job allocation however still those assignments are going to be less rigorous
05:32:11.020
on behalf of women because of capability yes the percentage of women because of assumed capability no
05:32:17.500
no so um hi i'm elizabeth i'm prior service military i served in the army and my husband's active
05:32:23.260
duty army thank you he's in the infantry thank you okay go ahead um i would say that women are not
05:32:29.260
dying in the same amount as men but i also would say even if they are in an 11 bravo slot for infantry
05:32:35.580
they're not doing the same tasks as men and whether it be from assignment because they can't do you think
05:32:40.940
it's because they're not capable of doing those i believe that they're not capable of doing some of
05:32:46.620
the roles that men do in the military as a woman who literally are incapable physically of doing
05:32:53.580
those jobs as an 11 bravo or as a 13 bravo or as a 19 delta or as i mean whatever combat role you want
05:33:02.860
to assign it to it doesn't matter it's not because women are doing them better it's because they're
05:33:07.980
incapable of doing most of these jobs even when they're in the position of doing them that makes my
05:33:13.100
argument not yours physically physically they can't do it yes my my little comment to that would be
05:33:21.580
that i have done enough of the research um about my own country and what's happening and there is no
05:33:29.580
such thing as physical equality when it comes to men and women we're different physically and uh
05:33:38.060
even though they're drafting old men in the ukraine they're not drafting young women yeah this is this
05:33:42.540
is an incredibly heartbreaking topic but of course there are thousands hundreds of thousands of
05:33:49.660
women in ukraine that are committing to to protecting our country right now but it would be insane of me
05:33:59.580
to say that they are physically capable of everything that the men do but of course we we can be eternally
05:34:07.020
grateful grateful for everything that both of the genders are doing for us it's just they can't be
05:34:14.140
physically as capable as the men but i think to to revisit the heart of the the conversation andrew was
05:34:21.580
that is there any example of women laying their life on the line for men and this has already been
05:34:28.540
determined as being true yes you just but your whole point was that it wasn't what is the word
05:34:33.740
what does the word collective mean what does it mean okay what does the word collective mean can you
05:34:39.100
tell me what the word collective means i just want to make sure that you got the argument down i got it
05:34:43.340
down what is what does the word collective mean the word collective is the majority the group all of the
05:34:49.660
all of the women all of the men gotcha so so when i say literally say to you yes there are examples
05:34:56.700
of women laying their lives down for men that's not in dispute here right it's never been in
05:35:01.500
disputes never even been a part of my argument it was yielded immediately right away the second you
05:35:06.460
said it i conceded to it has nothing to do with my argument my arguments about the collective
05:35:11.420
collectively men lay their lives down for women collectively women do not lay their lives down
05:35:15.900
for men if you can give me an example where collectively women do that i can't wait to hear
05:35:20.380
it okay i do think though that there is a place for women in the military and they there is roles
05:35:28.220
where yeah the roles to sign well no i mean there's other positions that military that women have in
05:35:34.540
the military like me i was 88 mike which is a truck driver so you were a truck driver right right so it's
05:35:39.980
not just admin jobs with people we'd say go get us a mike 88 right that's what you'd say new people yeah but
05:35:45.340
it's not just admin payroll clerk jobs and there's plenty of men carrying those payroll clerk jobs
05:35:50.140
as well yeah but they're not deploying 88 mics who are females in the combat zone yes they do
05:35:57.020
that's how jessica lynch got they have massive that's how jessica lynch got abducted in oif1 is
05:36:03.020
she was an 88 mike overseas in the gulf because it was the first time that they didn't send out a
05:36:08.540
huge mp escort with the mike 88s that's why so the thing is by the way she wasn't doing the right
05:36:14.940
thing my point of why they shouldn't be in military combat i agree i agree she got captured
05:36:20.620
and then they graped her right and that was a demoralizing effect on the american military
05:36:26.540
massive demoralizing effect she should never have been there and by the way i'm going to say this
05:36:31.340
again and let's see if you can dispute this if we collectively allowed women into combat zones
05:36:36.860
the enemy would capture them they would sexually assault them and they would send them back to their
05:36:41.020
home countries pregnant and the reason that they would do that is because it would be the
05:36:44.460
most demoralizing thing they could do i don't think women should be in combat zones but that's
05:36:50.060
not saying that they're wrong just said can you answer to what i mean i guess yeah that's how wouldn't
05:36:54.940
you if you were in charge of a foreign military and they were deploying women into the combat zones
05:36:59.900
and you wanted to demoralize their military wouldn't you instruct your soldiers to capture those women
05:37:05.820
essay them and send them home pregnant uh i don't think i would instruct myself yeah i don't know
05:37:10.860
that i would instruct them to do that if you wanted to demoralize the enemy wouldn't you do that
05:37:17.580
i mean i i'm not arguing that they would do that i mean they literally throw kids in front of trucks
05:37:22.460
with bombs on them so i'm not arguing that they would do that i would not initiate that
05:37:28.780
if you were in charge of a military and you were fighting a war for protection for your nation
05:37:36.940
right it's just like the japanese instructed their soldiers to kill medics first and the reason
05:37:42.540
they instructed them to kill medics first is because they wanted the wounded on the battlefield
05:37:46.540
screaming to demoralize the enemy there's no reason for us to assume that the enemies of the united
05:37:51.980
states if we deployed women in combat roles to front lines would not instruct their soldiers to
05:37:57.020
capture them essay them as publicly as possible and send the video and pregnant women back to
05:38:02.780
their country of origin in order to demoralize their enemies but that's a crime of war they don't care
05:38:09.020
about crimes of war that's fictitious made-up okay do you know who follows do you know who follows war
05:38:15.740
crimes the west follows what war crimes are the enemies of the west don't give a there's no crimes in
05:38:21.420
war because it's a war they don't care they don't care the israelis just blew up hundreds of people
05:38:29.500
in public with their pagers they don't give a shit about war crimes nobody cares about war crimes nobody
05:38:36.140
cares because it's a war okay that's a completely feminine thought process that men give a shit about
05:38:43.100
war crimes they don't care why does it exist then because collectively the countries want to make
05:38:49.020
themselves look really good on paper they want to look like they're part of geneva conventions
05:38:53.660
they want to outlaw flamethrowers they change their uniforms all the time they do all sorts of things
05:38:59.100
and then in the midst of war what they'll do is they'll shoot white phosphorus over a spider hole
05:39:03.980
set people on fire wait for them to run out so that they can shoot them which is against the geneva
05:39:09.580
convention and they don't give a fuck am i wrong you were in the military you know yeah yeah and they
05:39:15.740
don't get punished for it ever no they don't care they don't care listen if you're in a war your job
05:39:21.740
is to win the war your job is to kill the enemy with extreme aggression it's to poison them it's to
05:39:28.620
stab them while they're sleeping it's to murder them in any possible way you can think of to do it
05:39:33.500
so that you win that's warfare i think you see another kind of news and i do then you think that
05:39:41.420
because in the civilized world that we conduct warfare a certain way the british learned this
05:39:47.660
lesson the hard way gentleman warfare went right out the window the second guerrilla tactics were
05:39:52.460
introduced so the thing is is that no all it takes is one person saying these rules are stupid we're
05:39:58.380
going to throw them out and we're going to kill the enemy however we see fit who's to stop them they're
05:40:03.660
in a war what are you going to do come kill them they're already in a war yeah that's the point
05:40:09.260
they're already in a war they don't care sometimes there are consequences i don't know
05:40:15.340
i feel like i don't know it's okay i don't know you feel like i want to engage i i feel i know you
05:40:22.220
want to engage but like i don't uh i don't know i feel like though there is like some kind of
05:40:27.180
consideration for um maybe not war crimes but like like for instance like nuclear weapons and stuff
05:40:35.740
there's a reason why that that doesn't occur even though it could you know so yeah it's because the
05:40:40.860
nuclear armed nations would blast each other in smithereens i am aware i understand but i'm just
05:40:46.140
saying i feel like what your point was that like people don't give a fuck because they just want to
05:40:51.660
win the war i feel like people do to a certain extent we would use we would use nukes if we needed to
05:40:58.220
win a war bad enough we would use them in fact in fact it's it's part of our warfare doctrine
05:41:06.860
it's part of our warfare doctrine in fact soldiers are trained in order to and and how to sustain
05:41:13.180
their lives in the event of a nuclear detonation for a reason it's because inside of all game three
05:41:21.020
war plans in the united states there's always the assumption somebody could use a nuclear bomb
05:41:25.340
lucas donated 100 a man's duty to sacrifice his life is so vigorously enforced by society that when
05:41:35.740
the titanic sank one man survived and spent the rest of his life being called a coward by other men
05:41:41.420
dot fact check me hmm i mean didn't more than one man survive from titanic but thank you lucas
05:41:49.900
appreciate it man we have four more coming through if you guys want tts is 100 get them in thank you
05:41:55.900
lucas appreciate it man lucas donated 100 what andrew is talking about is a settled anthropological
05:42:03.820
concept known as male expendability stfu and learn something
05:42:08.140
no no no what we should do is because women die less in combat because they're incapable of doing
05:42:17.660
combat roles is then put them in combat roles because they're better at it that's a woman logic 101
05:42:27.020
thank you christine donated 100 thank you ladies don't let andrew win best thing to do is
05:42:34.540
reframe the question and avoid answering him directly until he gets tired i like to bring
05:42:40.140
up anecdotal examples that are long so he tires i hate men
05:42:47.020
i love christine love you christine appreciate it appreciate it christine uh that was
05:42:55.420
thank you lucas donated 100 if he gets up you can holy shit red if you were a first-year associate
05:43:05.020
firm you'd fired on the spot using the exception to argue against the rule under gw grad that's why
05:43:11.820
i'm a model now babe all right lucas thank you man thank you christine thank you guys so much for all
05:43:18.540
your uh patronage there i'm gonna try to get through all the notes here uh so andrew will be coming back
05:43:24.140
he just stepped away for a moment uh let's see here uh okay going to you you said create like
05:43:38.860
there's a bad the one guy who went to the bathroom and never came back oh stiff tooth
05:43:47.260
the one guy who didn't know the difference between what
05:43:49.180
i i told him i was a musician and then he did a call back later and he he said oh you're
05:43:55.580
a magician right and i was like no musician and he's like oh that's the same thing and i was like
05:44:01.020
did you also remember i'm a speech therapist it's not the same thing and then totally different words
05:44:06.140
had some bad dating experience with liberal men um that's that was uh that was the ugly and that was
05:44:11.580
just general liberals you i there's nowhere to go oh okay with having come like there's nowhere to go
05:44:22.860
in relationship you said there's this one guy who you went for a walk he asked you out again
05:44:28.940
and then you gave him a chance dinner what happened yeah he asked me over uh to his place for dinner and
05:44:35.900
i agreed and uh when i got there he was showing me around his backyard and showing me all some
05:44:42.780
some different areas that he'd done some landscaping on and i was like oh this is your house and he's
05:44:48.060
like no this is my mom's house and i was like your mom's not going to come home tonight is she he's
05:44:54.700
like maybe is that a problem and i was just like i don't i wasn't trying to meet your mom tonight
05:45:01.020
and um then later i went to leave and he went to give me a kiss and i wasn't having that and he's
05:45:09.420
like is this because i live with my mom yes wait going around the table really quick um would you date
05:45:17.580
a guy who lives with his parents no into the mic please no no no it depends but if you're going to
05:45:28.380
invite me over to your mom's house there should be some disclosure okay no absolutely not all right
05:45:36.940
into the mic please i mean i don't know because if they're taking care of their mom and their mom's
05:45:41.820
not well or something like yeah yeah yes okay interesting uh let's see and then uh that one guy
05:45:53.980
who's trying to get to know me so i'm like okay give him a chance do you have any kids you have you
05:45:58.860
how many kids did he have six how many baby moms four nice good luck i'm not your person
05:46:11.500
uh you also said that who are all these men paying for all the dates i've gone dutch for 99
05:46:17.020
of dates one guy paid once and that was cool he was really sure for us yeah that was last december um
05:46:22.380
uh it was unexpected he just kind of pulled out the card quicker than i did and it was just taken
05:46:30.220
care of before i knew it and that never happens um i paid for the drinks later okay is andrew back by
05:46:35.900
the way like are these guys in wisconsin no i'm in alaska yeah i'm here okay uh you said that uh
05:46:45.180
you hear men say on this podcast that men are attracted to a woman's aesthetic appeal and then also
05:46:49.100
say women are lying when they wear makeup i can understand that at times women completely alter
05:46:53.660
their appearance with makeup but i don't believe that's the norm and makeup is used to enhance
05:46:57.980
enhance appearance you can be well groomed without makeup and makeup can be a simple part of a general
05:47:02.780
grooming routine yeah i feel like i've heard men on this podcast say that wearing makeup it makes you a
05:47:08.780
liar and i i just feel like that is a really absolutist type of position to take and if you if you
05:47:15.500
enjoy looking at women who look pretty why wouldn't you want them to pretty themselves up
05:47:21.820
uh well i suppose not when it comes to a deception right there's a threshold i can i could i could
05:47:29.900
agree that there's a threshold yeah but all makeup is on the scale of deception i don't see it that way
05:47:37.420
i see it as an enhancement is shaving deceptive and would you want a woman who shaves what do you
05:47:43.740
mean like shaves her legs shaves her armpits do you want your woman to shave initially you said
05:47:49.340
grooming makeup is grooming do you want to shave to do with grooming sure isn't that deceptive
05:47:55.100
she has hair on her legs no that's her authentic self how would it be deceptive though by shaving
05:48:01.740
it off that's not the natural presentation wouldn't that be deceptive to pretend like you don't have hair
05:48:08.700
i don't think that would be deceptive no i i feel like it's in the same category as a gentle
05:48:15.100
application of makeup no i think it's completely different one hair has to do more so with with
05:48:21.260
grooming than it has to do with changing your appearance because for example uh one of the
05:48:28.780
reasons men would might prefer a woman with shaved legs doesn't even necessarily have to do with
05:48:34.220
something visual but with something tactile yeah why why are you laughing that's literally
05:48:43.100
actually true yeah there's a hygienic loop yes like hygiene there's also an appearance yeah
05:48:48.620
appearance wise too i suppose but there's also like a more there's actually like a greater utility to
05:48:56.060
shaving like it if a woman has spiky legs it's physically uncomfortable
05:49:04.220
to fuck her if the pussy is is fucking spiky it's uncomfortable bruv so there's actually a
05:49:14.460
greater utility there so it's higher on the scale of uh of of the grooming routine make sure you do
05:49:22.940
that part first makeup is an afterthought but i think that makeup can be part of a grooming routine
05:49:27.580
it has nothing to do with grooming though and do you see it as a whole separate category
05:49:39.260
yeah it would be different when i think of grooming i think taking care more so of your hygiene
05:49:44.460
make makeup does not improve your hygiene in fact it probably makes it worse
05:49:50.460
what do you um how could it not you're literally clogging your pores with makeup it makes you more prone
05:49:55.900
to acne that's bad for your hygiene okay it exists for a reason i might be yeah it exists to it exists
05:50:02.860
to create a facade of what you desire to look like but actually don't that's what it exists for
05:50:10.060
so you can feel more confident and you can feel less insecure about how you're not you naturally look
05:50:16.140
so if you're a girl you want to wear makeup you got to speak into the mic
05:50:19.420
what are you saying if you were a girl you wouldn't wear makeup is that what you're saying
05:50:26.140
i don't know i'm not a woman okay yeah so you can't even speak about it
05:50:30.700
you're allowed to have opinions wait have you ever had an abortion no oh you can't speak about
05:50:38.140
abortion then because you've never had one okay meow oh hold on actually wait should you be allowed to
05:50:45.580
vote because you can't you can't go to war do you prefer oh my god you can't be forced to war
05:50:51.180
should you be allowed to vote why is this yes why is he smiling yes oh he loves women should be allowed
05:50:56.780
to vote i just um yeah women should be allowed to vote oh i didn't do anything i was just listening
05:51:03.420
and do you do you prefer pamela anderson with makeup or without makeup i would not be attracted to
05:51:09.980
her one because that doesn't she have hepatitis from whatever the fuck that guy's name is she has
05:51:15.500
plastic surgery she has plastic surgery which is my bigger gripe that you don't like plastic surgery
05:51:21.260
i don't i'm a natural body supremacist perhaps perhaps i can now i don't entirely agree with brian's
05:51:27.420
makeup take just to be fair okay but but i will but but i am gonna gonna kind of take his part on this
05:51:35.660
uh women are often called the fairer sex in fact if i'll ask this question do you think if you think
05:51:42.620
that there are more beautiful women than there are handsome men go ahead and raise your hand
05:51:50.380
yeah more beautiful women than answer like it's easier to be beautiful as a woman than it is yeah
05:51:55.420
exactly so my argument is just very simple that absent all makeup and all beauty regiment standards
05:52:05.260
that come along with that do you still hold the position that there would be more beautiful women
05:52:09.660
than handsome men raise your hand you still do you still think that women even absent their makeup
05:52:18.380
because here's the thing what do we have to draw the parallel towards when i look around i see men not
05:52:25.260
wearing makeup and i see them not doing these incredible grooming kind of things that women do
05:52:32.140
and so they go well uh well this guy's you know as far as women go they're much prettier than men
05:52:39.740
and this type of thing but i think that if women walked around their natural state absent all of
05:52:44.460
the makeup and beauty and this and that you would find that actually they're pretty much on par because
05:52:49.580
men they have the disadvantage it's not even socially acceptable to wear makeup and yet there's still
05:52:56.220
very very very many of them considered to be quite handsome so i often wonder well if all the women
05:53:01.740
are walking around without makeup would we still make the association that they were the fairer sex
05:53:10.860
yeah i mean men can have boobs too but i wouldn't say that that makes them the fair the fairer not fairer
05:53:15.660
sex right you know i think maybe it just kind of goes along with the feminine that women like to
05:53:21.180
decorate like this apartment would look different if if a woman decorated it there'd be more stuff
05:53:26.140
on the walls and i think it's similar to like how we like to wear jewelry and we like to decorate and
05:53:31.020
we like to enhance the appearance yeah it's part of the feminine and i'm not i'm not disputing that
05:53:36.780
right what i am disputing is that when brian says it's a deception aren't men almost instantly
05:53:42.140
disadvantaged because after all if a guy's walking around with guy liner on and makeup and
05:53:47.580
shit like that that's not considered masculine right so they're preferred in their natural yeah
05:53:53.500
they're preferred in their natural state so whereas women can go through these beauty regiments and they
05:53:58.220
defend them however the amount of women and this i know for sure having been on that podcast in person
05:54:04.460
many times and off of it almost no woman in person looks like they do on camera they almost always look
05:54:11.340
way worse in person almost always you know i don't i i just think brian am i wrong about that by the way
05:54:20.300
am i crazy or do almost all the women look way worse in person than they do on camera
05:54:26.060
the uh cameras in the studio lighting do a lot of favor uh a lot of favors a lot of a lot of favors
05:54:34.700
yeah i think everyone looks a lot better in person then how would you know what would you be comparing
05:54:45.180
that to i have the best lighting on youtube uh yeah um look it's a deception it's a deception what's
05:54:54.380
up what do you got i want to share one extremely sincere moment about makeup when i was preparing for
05:55:02.780
the show specifically i was thinking about either putting makeup on or not and i really wanted to
05:55:13.260
not put any as usual because i don't use any makeup in real life because i want my skin to breathe not
05:55:20.940
because of any other reason and the only reason why i still put the makeup on is because i knew
05:55:28.300
i knew that almost i'm not talking about you girl you have no makeup on like and you have no makeup
05:55:34.540
on but i knew that the absolute majority i knew that the absolute majority of the women that are
05:55:42.140
gonna come to the podcast are gonna wear the makeup on and i was thinking okay girl all right put the
05:55:49.340
mascara on all right kind of hide those little pim poms that you had because the majority of the people
05:55:55.980
are gonna do it and you probably unintentionally are gonna show yourself and not in the best way
05:56:03.340
because of the people that are definitely gonna put the makeup on it's just a very honest talk that i
05:56:10.220
wanted to vocalize right now but i i definitely have those so you didn't want the women who are around
05:56:18.060
you to look more beautiful than you i i knew that probably i would look um that's one way to put
05:56:26.860
naturally i would look different from the women that totally yeah no so they would look better they
05:56:33.500
would so you just wanted to fit in yeah i wanted to fit in for sure andrew i can agree with what
05:56:38.780
you're saying right now for sure and there are definitely some days in my life when i when i'm
05:56:45.100
thinking i wish all the women could just ditch all the makeup just go outside just that is the case
05:56:53.260
brian has a whole bunch of makeup wipes there my challenge to you would be to go to the bathroom
05:56:57.980
and take all the makeup off and come back man i would love to do it can i just do it because this is
05:57:03.020
this would be amazing honestly i actually think you should do it who will do it do you even have the
05:57:07.980
makeup mom oh let's fucking get rid of it i don't know there are so many days in my life when i'm
05:57:13.900
thinking oh i wish all the women just put all their makeup off just absorb the sun rays and just
05:57:22.140
chill they don't need to um you know prove anything to anyone they're gorgeous they're wonderful the
05:57:29.340
foundation all that is off then people can see for themselves whether or not there was a deception or
05:57:33.980
not right ah fuck it fuck it i'm talking about the natural beauty that we all of the women around me
05:57:40.220
have it right now well this is actually why i make it a habit when women aren't wearing like
05:57:44.860
if i'm dating somebody and they're she's not wearing makeup to compliment her when she's not wearing
05:57:48.860
makeup yeah because one day you're gonna see her in the morning with no makeup on and if you're
05:57:54.620
planning to love the woman a dog bro huh you use your positive reinforcement you train them like it's
05:58:00.380
a tree like it's a dog no it's not the newspaper you're like bad when they put the makeup on when
05:58:05.820
they don't you're like oh you're a good girl yeah no it's not it's not wait wait wait wait my intention
05:58:11.580
is definitely not to hate on the makeup i'm wearing my makeup right now when i'm proud of it i love my
05:58:16.300
makeup no no no this is not the point it's just i again generally i just always think about that
05:58:23.820
moment when a man that i would possibly be interested in he would see me without any makeup in the
05:58:31.100
morning and that would be real me it would not be the same me in the evening at that expensive
05:58:38.140
restaurant that we're spending time at you know it's different you feel me so where are the wipes
05:58:44.620
yeah i'm all out i just don't i just don't see makeup as a deception i see it as um part of
05:58:52.460
the feminine and i see it as like decoration and um i'm not trying to get away with anything yeah i
05:58:58.060
agree i don't care if somebody sees me without me yeah well let me ask you a question um let's assume
05:59:03.740
that you were with kind of your dream guy right you slept with him for the first time and it was
05:59:07.980
absolutely amazing okay and then you found out the next day he was on viagra and he couldn't get it
05:59:12.860
up was that a deception i agree so different than makeup first i don't think so because it's just
05:59:18.940
like helping yeah no i'm not hang on let me ask her me no no you yeah you tony yes answer please
05:59:31.660
that's it's it's hard to answer i um i don't if i knew about it then no but if i did not then yes
05:59:39.020
yes but you if i tell you i'm wearing makeup then it's not deceptive right yeah right right but
05:59:45.100
the the point here is is that if then you could make the choice right based on this information
05:59:52.380
knowing that this guy could not perform would you have ever wasted your time sleeping with him in the
05:59:56.220
first place as long as the viagra is still there yeah i know but but the idea here is just if you think
06:00:03.740
it's a deception then that could inform your decision alternatively to whether or not you would
06:00:08.300
ever have done this action with a person to begin with i would say makeup has the same effect for many
06:00:13.340
women that men would pursue a woman who they think is beautiful when absent the makeup perhaps or not
06:00:19.980
this is the definition of catfishing so how you could say this is a deception or not a deception i have
06:00:25.500
no idea uh i think that you're just so to be charitable to your view i think it has to do with intent
06:00:31.340
right so i don't think you're intending to be deceiving by putting makeup on that's where i would
06:00:37.020
deviate from brian uh however that does not mean that it is not used very deceptively by most women
06:00:45.180
who tend to not look anything like what they look like in in makeup they just don't they don't look
06:00:50.140
you disagree that's fair i think you're putting a lot of power in the capability of makeup like like
06:00:57.340
oh are we i mean i don't take yours then take yours off we have the makeup wipes right there take them
06:01:03.980
off if i'm putting a lot of power like what if she doesn't want to no no hang on hang on let me call
06:01:08.620
your bluff take yours off i have last one right now first of all i've spent a lot of time and money
06:01:15.020
on this right there and you know what andrew you not you're not worth it so i'm not taking it off for
06:01:21.100
you and also those those ones gave me hives so i'm never getting on my face way too much stock in
06:01:25.980
that makeup but you know what like 100 no just specifically for andrew and if it's okay with
06:01:32.620
brian with your position on third party voting do you think it's wrong not to vote at all if you
06:01:38.300
believe neither i need a quick candidate should be president i need a quick answer on this yeah i think
06:01:43.740
you should still vote i think you should still vote for the lesser of two evils because the only way you
06:01:47.660
can apply political power thank you practicing gentlemen appreciate it we have also lucas here
06:01:52.380
coming in all right lucas donated 100 ha model nice attempt at self-aggrandizement wife ship ton
06:02:04.140
hotter ship ton smarter and btw ship ton more successful at modeling to boot now take her mediocrity
06:02:12.140
back home and learn some humility is that to you i guess we could assume so right i guess then go back
06:02:20.540
to your wife and stop spending a hundred dollars to talk to me babe all right by the way by the way i
06:02:25.740
just wanted to point out something that's very interesting as i'm looking examining the panel here
06:02:30.620
as well i noticed that some of you are around my age but none of you have any gray hairs that's really
06:02:36.780
interesting i would say that that would be statistically impossible that at least some of
06:02:41.820
you should have at least a few gray hairs where are they where are the gray hairs i have never dyed my
06:02:48.940
hair and my mom 19 years older than me still doesn't have any gray hairs i'm going to have a great hair
06:02:53.900
for a long time yeah so i i assume that at least some of you would not have gray hair sure but i don't
06:02:59.100
think all of you would not be able to have some so where are they after this conversation with you i might
06:03:05.100
have some all right pull up the tweet please pull up the tweet why don't you just die him away all
06:03:12.780
right make it bigger make it bigger or just click on it this is not real this is not real that's not
06:03:19.180
real that's real no it's not look at the shape of her face that's not real that's her or him
06:03:27.980
they use tape to tape back certain aspects of their skin that's deceptive
06:03:32.140
if that's okay and then do the the video one that's like this asian woman who's now i can rub
06:03:44.140
you guys have been calling us stupid all night but you guys believe that that is the capability of
06:03:49.100
makeup we're going to show you yes show us show there's plenty of makeup wearers there's plenty
06:03:55.820
of you can take your 300th l for the night when we show you yeah if it's not uh no wait wait wait
06:04:02.140
no audio no audio take it off okay go ahead put on window tab please
06:04:11.020
no window tab just window just you can switch it to windows
06:04:14.460
that's like a goon too the window tab you can switch it to window tab
06:04:17.740
oh this is not makeup this is skincare yeah hold on it's a whole transformation she's doing
06:04:37.100
yeah what just happened something happened to her chin
06:04:48.060
ai stuff just happened right now her face is getting smaller and smaller yeah yeah that whole
06:04:53.100
jawline different person there's a filter or something on now
06:04:59.020
okay then go back scroll back to the very beginning go back to the very beginning
06:05:02.380
totally totally different okay would they add like contact some like technology yes that's a
06:05:09.980
component of the cosmetics cosmetics i would say is like within the realm of something you could
06:05:16.060
buy at sephora yeah you're not buying you're not buying a face reconstruction okay well i object to
06:05:25.260
all of it i'll just grant okay 40 of it 40 of what you just saw
06:05:29.660
was raw ai filters that still leaves 60 that wasn't that's still such a facial transformation
06:05:37.660
it's incredible and so yes you you of course you can put stock in makeup i've seen what people can
06:05:44.220
do and why i don't even know why you would deny it you've seen horror movies with special effects
06:05:49.180
and makeup artists who can make people look like aliens from other planets i don't know why you think
06:05:54.140
that women can't make facial transformations that makes no sense yeah no that's true you can also use
06:05:59.100
makeup to make yourself much uglier than you are in in real life like charlie's theron in that one
06:06:05.580
serial killer movie i mean it's used to enhance or not enhance beauty standards but you can you can
06:06:12.940
transform people to the point where they look like monsters from another world but somehow we think that
06:06:18.460
it's impossible for people to make these facial transformations where they look extraordinarily
06:06:23.580
beautiful when they're really not yeah there's a threshold that that it becomes deceptive all right
06:06:28.780
next i sent you the but it seems like you're implying that we're doing this right now but if you're
06:06:33.820
nuts why don't you think i don't know you're not the one taking your makeup off yeah it's like why
06:06:38.380
should she have to she's i feel like she shouldn't have nobody said she had to okay it's just called
06:06:43.420
in poker we call this calling your bluff when you say hey my hand is way better than you think it is and
06:06:49.500
i say well that's fine let's play our cards the other person tends to fold right because you're
06:06:55.180
calling their bluff the thing is is like if you think that makeup isn't doing a bunch of heavy
06:06:58.700
lifting for your face then prove it okay but if you're saying that you can get it up without viagra
06:07:04.460
then it's anybody asking you to prove that on camera yeah well here's the thing right in this
06:07:11.020
particular case i'm not making the claim that viagra does not enhance the face or the penis to the
06:07:18.060
point where you can get an erection you are making the claim that makeup cannot enhance the face to
06:07:24.460
the point where you can have a completely different standardization of what the beauty is that's the
06:07:29.260
distinction all of the men that i've dated and that have seen me without makeup i have never like
06:07:36.620
had anybody be like you deceived me last night at dinner like no one has said that well i i know but
06:07:44.140
you can just prove us all wrong right now with that analogy y'all are not paying the distinction
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of deception is whether or not taking viagra was a secret because nobody's makeup is a secret it's
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right on your face just just the one is fine yeah no no that's the the point is not whether or not you
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can put makeup on your face and we don't know you have makeup on your face the point is the deceptive
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nature of it i don't give a shit if women enhance their face with makeup i don't care right that's
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that's brian's argument he doesn't like it i get it i don't see it as any different than a person who
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has burn scars on their face who has surgery in order to make those burn scars go away i don't care
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it doesn't bother me but there is clearly like you stated a threshold and when i hear coke like no makeup
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really just doesn't do much i'm just a natural beauty and you go yeah well here's the wipes let's
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prove it you see very quickly that there's a lot of coke going on makeup is doing a lot more heavy
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lifting than women pretend that it's doing now here i'll prove it right now the three most makeup
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women that i see right now on the panel would be the one who identified as a 10 at the end of the table
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the one in red and then the only fans girl will any of you right now take your makeup off on camera
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any of you no i've been saying that it's not deceptive we're just saying we look good with
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and without makeup but when there's cameras and lighting we know the lashes be popping yeah but
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which way do you look better which way do you look better i think i would look better without
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makeup but i will wear makeup okay then take yours off i don't think i'm on camera and the
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lighting is like yeah my face why would you ever put makeup on if you think you look better without
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it are you dressing yourself down no i'm just saying when there's like lights and cameras on my face
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like the eyelashes pop so i want to make them pop well isn't it the same as saying like if there's
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a man and you shave your beard and you look different without a beard you prefer to have
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a beard on isn't that the same for like women they prefer to have makeup on yeah like they have makeup
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on all the time i think that a man is trying in that point to enhance his standard of beauty or
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possibly hide a scar or any number of different reasons right i'm not making the case that women
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wearing makeup is some evil i don't think it is right i don't have the same position that brian
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has on this and never have but i still see it as pure coat when a woman who is dressed in makeup to
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the gills i don't know how long it took you to put your face on 10 10 minutes couple of yeah right
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no yeah yeah it's like an hour to deceive y'all this much that's hours come on and in any case
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when you pretend well this really just doesn't do much for me it's just enhancing the incredible
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beauty that's already there it really doesn't change anybody's perception of me at all when put
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to the desk when the makeup wipes are in front of you we find out maybe that's not the case like for
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instance right i would shave my beard on camera i don't give a shit do it right now right now do it
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it really change how i look very much you should do it then all right as soon as you remove your
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baby you'll do it if i take my makeup off you'll shave over here take off your makeup i have the
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makeup wipe oh my god i would love this take it off i'm allergic to the makeup wipes actually there's
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regular soap in the bathroom soap literally what no no no you can't go to the bathroom you have to take
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the makeup off where we can see so we know that you're not only taking off some parts of the makeup
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to still continue to enhance the beauty right i think you're just jealous you can't put on makeup
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why couldn't i put on makeup i mean you could yeah okay well then i don't even understand the argument
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made no sense you know what this this conversation is just irrelevant because we're all cute without
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makeup and you're just yeah we're all you're trying to be a hater right now but it's fine
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you know what i think is really sexy guys who don't smoke cigarettes you know what i think is
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really sexy women who do woo where are we gotten now i really appreciate that you and brian have
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some distinct differences in your opinions and that it's not just macho group think on everything or
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anything no we we disagree about uh about several things but we agree i would say on 90 percent of
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things right we we definitely have different perceptions on many things we have one more
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video related to this but men don't have to be collectivists in order for other men to like us
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that's the fair that's that's the advantage we have that women don't seem to have i disagree
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oh that poor eyebrow but that eyeball is gonna fall down
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that's makeup that's not real that's makeup yeah you can let it play through one more time it's
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also contacts is it now her eyes really changed yeah uh i don't think she's wearing contacts she
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is about that color first i'm pretty sure it's just the she's wearing a lot of skin
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in any case um i need to find this tape you guys she's wearing a lot of makeup probably most women
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do not wear that much makeup but i don't think you can deny that uh that's quite the transformation
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both of those videos that you presented i think there's a couple components here is that what makeup
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will do though is that women will start to believe that that's what they look like and so what you
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have happening in the dating marketplace is a lot of women are chasing after these top tier guys and
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through the use of makeup they've artificially inflated their uh value in the dating marketplace
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because men care about beauty men care about looks if you've artificially and i don't think you can
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deny that it's artificially inflating your physical appearance through the use of makeup or other
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cosmetic procedures certainly can't be described as natural you've raised your so-called grading
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i mean it's funny but you're caked up in makeup so i know you want to cope about it but i am caked up
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and my hair is done and my nails are done and my lashes are done and now what when females avoid
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i guess what i'm trying to say what i'm trying to say is what i see happening you gotta let me finish
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okay what i see happening in the dating marketplace is that women are curving men that they think they
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would be settling for or they think are not in their league but here's the big mistake that a lot
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of women make is that you are terrible assessors of male attractiveness and your own attractiveness
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that's why we have two tens at the table that's we have why we have nines and eights
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you said you're a 10 and then you said and because of this because of this you have a
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delusional or inaccurate to be charitable sense false sense of your own attractiveness
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ergo you gotta let me finish i let you guys talk ergo you're going to be chasing after men who are out
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of your league these men will give you sexual access because you want sexual access from them
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they'll give you sexual access they'll never give you commitment access they'll never give you girlfriend
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access they'll never give you wife access you'll spend your 20s fucking men outside of your league
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then when you're 30 or in your late 20s you're like whoa why haven't i been able to lock down a guy
06:15:15.900
but you were able to hook up with the nfl players these rich guys in dubai or wherever the
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fuck you go to and you sleep with these men who have proposed to me where's the ring i said no
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okay cool so in any case you guys are chasing after men out of your league well you don't and
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hold on hold on you're chasing after men who are out of your league that's why you constantly
06:15:37.500
find yourself in situationships and fuck buddies and sneaky links but the guy will never give you
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commitment wait and you're chasing after men out of your league who won't give you that commitment
06:15:47.980
and then and then the men who are actually in your league you spend your 20s rejecting them
06:15:53.660
you spend your 20 20s rejecting the men who would give you commitment who would be your boyfriend who
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would give you marriage and then in your 30s maybe you end up with one of these suckers who didn't get
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much attention when he was younger invariably you get married to him you're still thinking of the
06:16:10.060
really hot guys you fucked in your 20s within three years you've now divorced him and then the cycle
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continues you probably have maybe you got a kid from him maybe not and uh yeah makes for a terrible
06:16:21.660
society to live in you're so loud and wrong it's so crazy how is that wrong that's because you don't
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know what guys i'm going after no hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on female hypergamy is the rule
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not the exception i don't know what that means hypergamy the tendency to like date outside of your
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level it could be socioeconomically it could be status it could be looks it could be personality
06:16:45.100
no you're so wrong brian do you want a funny guy do you want a funny guy you want a funny guy
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i want a guy who makes me giggle okay are you funny i'm hilarious that's cool so i didn't laugh tonight
06:16:54.780
but okay uh you actually did if you play it back okay cool that's the only thing i just laughed funny
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lady what do you call a woman who can't have children you make per year unbearable how much
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do you make per year like that was a groaner what that was a i wrote it myself
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at least like 80 000 okay have you dated a guy who makes a million dollars a year yeah i do i have
06:17:20.620
oh wow that's really hypergamous of you to be dating somebody so far outside your socioeconomic status
06:17:28.060
congratulations um no because first of all i'm rich in spirit do you think a guy who makes 80k can
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date a girl who's making a million answer the question though do you think a guy who's making
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80k is dating a girl who can make a million or is she going after other millionaires okay i like how
06:17:48.060
you go from one minute saying i feel like you speak what was that thing you said african-american
06:17:51.740
verbal edge and then now you're speaking like you're like jim neutron like what the heck and second of all
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i look fantastic without makeup i'm wearing it because there is here brian with all these with
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all these jimmy neutron words no literally like have you ever dated uh somebody who has status or is
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famous maybe rapper musician oh have you ever dated a professional athlete no i don't like athletes
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have you dated you can direct those questions over here or a magician have you ever dated a
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famous musician okay yeah wow that's weird like you're dating a guy who has more status than you
06:18:37.740
no i'm dating a guy who has talent and like who has more status than you okay hypergamy boom roasted
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you've dated an nfl player correct nba player he just stops smiling it makes me annoyed when he smiles
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no and i have more status and money than any guy i've ever dated so wait wait what what black did
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i just take for my smile you don't like the smile either you're smiling i like the most like it's
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like a sinister smile it's not it's not like a nice smile wait okay that's cool see when it's paired
06:19:06.300
with the palpatine keep going brian that's the best okay um have you dated an nba player no nfl player
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yes what other professional uh no i've only dated one professional athlete and it was an nfl player
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correct and you but you also said you're more famous and i said i have more status and money
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than him nfl player correct he probably has a wikipedia page do you no we can make her one
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right let's focus on the money aspect the money aspect you were making more money than the nfl player
06:19:35.100
i have more money than him yes what kind of model are you
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i i i have more money than he did i paid i paid for things i paid the bills what kind of
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model are you i kind of feel like we're not getting the answer on the what kind of model
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oh i'm a regular model like like what is that no it's or no no nothing nude but um i yeah like
06:19:59.900
bikini yeah okay sorry bikini guys runway and don't get too worked out
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e-commerce wait lowest salary in nfl uh the minimum salary is 700 000 in 2022 next question
06:20:18.060
hold on the minimum salary for a first year player is current oh as of 2024 but you i'll know when you
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dated him is seven uh 700 wait it's it's almost 800 000 okay you make more than that yes i do
06:20:34.380
have more money than the guy do you make more than that a year uh do i make more than 800 000
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a year i would say i'm in the ballpark of that doing what modeling modeling you you make i just
06:20:50.300
bought myself a porsche last week next question brian you got it did you finance it no i bought it
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cap cap cap cap why do you see what she's talking about you love to pull up instagram why are you
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such a woman right like your makeup is working bro pull it up make it this work it's all my
06:21:05.900
instagram everything holy cap there's no way okay pull up my instagram brian it's alex444 ever
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it's the first picture there he's peanut butter and jealous
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you literally are like why is the woman hater even your friend is nicer you you're like a trust fund
06:21:24.300
baby you can just say it it's okay wait i'm nice trust fund trust fund trust fund i said i have more
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money sure correct you're being intentionally kind of just like y'all just like y'all but you're being a
06:21:37.900
bit vague about it so it's the money's not from the modeling it's from your parents no it's not from my
06:21:43.740
my parents i bought my porsche last week with my own money my parents did not sign off on it
06:21:49.900
everything is in my own name and with my own cash paid in full that your parents okay that's
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okay i guess the question to ask is are you making through some type of job or modeling almost eight
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hundred thousand yes i am yes i am stop the cap okay wait why do you assume she's capping why do you
06:22:12.220
assume that i'm capping it's giving literally pb and jelly no literally but why do you assume that
06:22:17.580
i'm capping so i mean i'm gonna google the average salary of a model good for you okay but like those
06:22:23.660
are people on google like so that and i even think this is high they're saying the average salary for
06:22:27.980
a model is 95 000 per year i think that's even dubious but in any case that's the average salary
06:22:33.740
top earners make around 200 000 a year so you're in the one percentile you're in the one percentile
06:22:42.460
of models i looked at your instagram you're following while not well why don't we pull
06:22:46.620
up the instagram by the way i don't need to pull it up but you have 20 000 followers which isn't
06:22:50.620
nothing but also it wouldn't you wouldn't you have no it is it is nothing you listen i'm going to be
06:22:57.180
honest 20 000 followers for somebody who is a million dollar plus a year i didn't say million
06:23:03.260
dollar plus i said i am 800 000 yeah okay six figures plus a year correct job 20 000 followers
06:23:10.940
for model is nothing on instagram it's dirt it's nothing okay well i mean i don't know literally
06:23:15.740
nothing i barely try all i do is post on instagram i post like next to nothing ever and i almost have
06:23:22.780
that following okay and i don't do anything on it i literally don't do anything on it what publications
06:23:29.180
have you been um i've been i'm not a i'm not a print model like that i do i do e-comm
06:23:36.380
i've done runway shows i've done music videos i've done campaigns like
06:23:43.900
look i want to spare you the embarrassment just walk back that you lied about your about my income
06:23:50.620
your income absolutely not i can show you i mean i don't know when i when i applied for
06:23:57.020
my car i had to put my income earnings on the sheet do you want me to bring you i mean it could be a
06:24:01.980
rental oh my god a rental you're such a hater oh my well okay a rental it's okay it's a rental you're
06:24:09.580
right you got me you got me anyways look um where were we talking about they don't like to see women
06:24:15.900
who make money i don't care i just i just doubt it well how much do you make a year i'm a broke
06:24:23.980
starving college student you're in college yes 35 in college yeah i know it's rough deceptive it's
06:24:31.500
my 15th year oh damn uh i'll pray for you i'm a starving college student
06:24:37.980
my degrees will keep me warm at night you know that's a kanye west never god damn it tips me
06:24:46.780
oh it's not drop the ball say that again it's like from one of his songs wait say it again my
06:24:52.940
degrees will keep me warm at night but it's not him it's like one of his skits oh yeah it's one of
06:24:58.460
the skits like college dropout college dropout yeah good talk anyways what the fuck we're talking
06:25:05.260
about you being a hater you make up and elevating your position in the dating market i know for a
06:25:10.780
fact if you were a girl you would wear so much makeup so much makeup i bet you as much as you
06:25:15.260
but they love to talk about broke girls but then when a girl tells them that they're not broke they
06:25:19.260
can't believe it exactly i bet if you were a man you would have the biggest cock in the city
06:25:24.940
you have a lot of money i'm not disputing any of that it sounds like you are i'm not even disputing
06:25:29.260
what you make i i didn't dispute it once all i said was that 20 000 instagram followers for a
06:25:37.020
model of the caliber i would expect to be close to a million a year at 20 000 considering i have
06:25:42.060
12.1 i'm booked every single day two to three times a day like i don't know i'll let you respond
06:25:48.540
just let me finish i let the man finish i'm just saying that it seems rather low is there some other
06:25:56.060
social media platform where you have many more followers than that no there's not yeah that's
06:26:01.180
are you a sugar baby that you've run all sorts of campaigns all over the world and you're all in
06:26:05.900
all these cover magazines and you have 20 000 instagram followers i'm guessing the girl first
06:26:11.420
of all a million dollars a year is not that much money guys like it's really not that much money a
06:26:17.260
million dollars what are you if it's not then you know what i agree with you if a million dollars is
06:26:23.340
not very much money go ahead and send it to me i'll send you the paypal i'm talking about making
06:26:27.900
that as your salary a year like it's not as much money as it sounds like first of all it's zero zero
06:26:33.900
zero point one percent of the united states that makes over 500k a year are you what are you talking
06:26:41.100
about i mean the earners the high income earners are talking about taxing right now the high income
06:26:47.420
threshold starts at 400 000 trust me i'm well aware of that andrew trust me i'm well aware of that
06:26:54.700
what is that i want you guys to try to that's very challenging do this you can't do this you have to
06:27:02.460
bring one finger they have to go in reverse okay oh i'm impressed that's really hard um i'm really
06:27:08.460
happy for you that you're um that you're so successful and so and i believe you like this one
06:27:13.660
finger backwards one finger forward one finger back why no it's a really good brain exercise i
06:27:20.380
wanted to share that today is actually the 50th anniversary of when women were first allowed to
06:27:25.020
hold a credit card in their name and we're now the we're now because he's jealous we now god who the
06:27:32.780
hell cares i'm really happy for you that you bought a car in cash and women are now like the biggest
06:27:39.020
holders of debt in the country way to go thank you oh whoa kind of based wait okay hold on i gotta
06:27:45.100
let some of the chats come through we're really winning it lol paladins donated 100 and two cents
06:27:52.140
stop the cap 800k a year is way more than you having a total amount higher than that
06:27:58.300
a porch is 60 150k i own three 800k a year is way more than that oh wait i gotta do that sorry
06:28:07.900
little paladins i forgot to put on your little special thingy my bad bro here i'll put it on
06:28:15.260
right now thank you paladins sorry bro i forgot i didn't have your aquatic donated 100 dollars
06:28:21.740
the water boy on the detroit lions gets paid more yearly than you do about me i guess uh yeah excuse
06:28:29.340
me sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry yo aquatic thank you dude good to see you in the chat
06:28:33.260
brother the water boy on the detroit lions yeah that's crazy son that's crazy that's wild can i
06:28:40.700
ask you one last question about deception sure if a woman avoids farting in front of you for like the
06:28:46.060
first six months of a relationship is she deceiving you by trying to make you think that she doesn't
06:28:51.260
fart if this yes makes 800k a year with 20k instagram followers are i guess then puts brian at 12 million
06:28:59.020
a year stop the cap fo shizzle my nizzle thank you lol paladins dude good to see you to be to be maximum
06:29:08.620
charitable i'm sure that there's many millionaires who have very low social media following yes but it
06:29:13.420
just seems like if you were a model but that that would be very key to the advertisement
06:29:18.780
one hundred dollars wait if she paid in cash why did she have to prove income that sounds like
06:29:25.980
elise or financing just saying okay interesting how that works btw by the way tts has been lowered
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to 69 guys if you want to get a tts in thank you ogle good to see you back in the chat man good to see
06:29:45.580
you back in the chat uh i don't know is there anything else on this makeup thing i just you
06:29:51.660
know what i mean you know what i mean yeah okay one sec guys i'm just getting the things adjusted i
06:29:59.260
have a few more notes here we have to finish up uh so andrew wilson oh really quick um do you guys
06:30:05.980
think men are insecure if they care about body count starting with you
06:30:14.380
no i think you have a right to care i don't know
06:30:28.940
no not necessarily i know it's not insecure you have a right to know if that's something that's
06:30:34.940
important to you no no no oh wait this girl's gone uh we'll wait until she's back then on this one
06:30:45.980
so guys tts has been lowered 69 tts if you want to get one in guys also like the video oh we got to
06:30:50.620
do twitch really quick we haven't done that in a while uh go ahead and pull up the twitch guys go to
06:30:55.020
twitch wait did we do the last makeup video yeah yeah yeah we did yo guys go to twitch.tv slash
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end of this stream guys we're trying to hit 100 000 before the end of the year maybe we'll make it
06:31:13.420
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available in the chat i think it's bugs boys yes no man thank you again for the prime and then uh like
06:31:50.940
the video also quick little shout out to debate university.com if we can get that pulled up
06:31:56.140
that's debate university.com andrew wilson has a course it is called verbal combat
06:32:03.500
and if you want to uh go to war with your relatives this coming thanksgiving and christmas and you want
06:32:14.220
to spank them at the dinner table with your verbal prowess like andrew does uh if you want to become a
06:32:20.300
master debater if you want a master debate all over the place in a in a in a boat in a house in a
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on the train green eggs and ham you got to get the fucking course boys get the course
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06:32:41.980
oh going to you uh do you think body count matters me why what i'm at the mic or do you yeah do you
06:32:50.060
think uh or do you think men are insecure if they care about the woman's body count
06:32:56.140
no but it's like they shouldn't be a hypocrite like if you have a high body count you can't just
06:32:59.980
another girl for having a high body count i feel like i oh but i forgot what i'm talking to
06:33:06.460
i actually think look uh i'm not in favor of male promiscuity but i actually don't see anything
06:33:11.100
wrong with a man who like let's say he had a promiscuous past he slept with 100 women i don't
06:33:15.500
think he's obliged to then go and have to date a woman who herself was promiscuous or who matches
06:33:22.220
his past promiscuity he can make an assessment and be like yeah dating like promiscuous women
06:33:29.500
they're suboptimal to date i'd rather date i'm gonna pick the most optimal woman i can the same
06:33:35.340
way that women pick the most optimum choice that they can make when it comes to who they decide to
06:33:40.780
sleep with or partner with or whatever so i i don't think there's actually anything wrong
06:33:45.980
with the guy being a hoe no i didn't say that i object to male promiscuity and i object to
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female promiscuity but if a guy was promiscuous i don't think he's obliged to then have to only date
06:33:57.260
promiscuous women he can be like no i want to date a virgin so you think that um a promiscuous girl
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should they should die alone yes no just kidding brian no one's obliged to date i am kidding
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exactly yeah exactly nobody's obliged to date anybody should if i want i mean whether they can
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get them or not is another question but so what was your question honestly i mean you confuse me with
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your gaslighting oh i think a guy who is a hoe should not date a virgin no ew make an argument
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against it why not because it's like our virgins desirable yeah so why can't he desire a virgin
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if he can get her what's the because he's the furthest thing from it so i mean i guess in yin and
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yang so like how tall are you five three how tall of a guy do you want to date didn't you say you want
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like a tall black man what's up desmond by the way he he only dates black women just saying my my
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thing of life my mantra is if he ain't six three he's not for me you're five you're yeah six three
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that's like one percent of dudes or some three percent i don't know i get lucky oh my god wait okay
06:35:08.860
so hold on i'll just i gotta move it on but uh body count if you do what's your body count brian
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okay starting with you range range give us range i'm cool i'm cool okay can you do how much two
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two okay wait two body count two body count do you have a video of
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on who on onlyfans what do you have a video of losing your virginity on onlyfans then no i didn't
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lose my virginity on onlyfans but i have to i have to no i have to agree with brian on the body count
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doesn't apply for men because in my theory is like if a man has gone through a lot of women then he'll
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know who he wants to date but if there's like a man who say he he's never he's a virgin or he only
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has one body count and he dates you don't you think he'll be more suspicious or like he'll crave
06:36:18.700
what other girls feel like yeah i don't i do not disagree with with a guy i think it's probably
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better for a guy to not have experienced other women yeah really yeah because like here's why like
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because because there's this concept in like the i don't consider myself this really the red pill
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space where like women can get there's this term called alpha widow yeah so like once a girl has
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been with like a certain caliber of guy yeah if she dates a guy who doesn't like say she breaks up
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with him right and she moves on to another dude if that next guy doesn't meet that caliber yeah she's
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going to be dissatisfied in the relationship right and they say this applies to women which it does but
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i actually think it can also apply to men on the sexual front too yeah for example for example i think
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i am i don't know what the term would be alpha widowed when it comes to sex with women
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i'm alpha widowed now i could look if a new girl doesn't meet the same standard i've experienced
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i can stay with her you know but it would have been better if i had not had certain
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experiences wait what's your body count again don't worry about it and chase the dragon the rest
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of your life so look i'll tell you what i'm being okay let me let me be more precise so there are some
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women bless their hearts who are very orgasmic like that is kind of insane like boom boom like
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literally three seconds ten seconds later ten seconds later ten seconds later oh god
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do you think it's the majority of women no it's rare okay trust me yeah and you would know
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because you have a high body count she's a slut and she knows it
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there's some rare pussy uh-huh so you're saying it's like a legendary in world of warcraft like
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certain pussy is legendary you know like only one or two people in the guild will get it and what
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makes a legendary again okay it's like bruv you know bruv are you london british now yes i'm british
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get out of the program got it look i'm just saying these women that can come like 20 times super quick
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just saying so you're saying if you had a body count of one or if you were a version you wouldn't
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think about other women like how their body felt and stuff
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well if i didn't stumble like i was playing russian roulette with my dick
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wait that sounds weird like i i i not like what the fuck andrew don't bro
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it's like russian roulette like and then you stumble but in like a good game of russian roulette
06:39:33.420
where instead of dying you land on a chick with like
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okay a magical pussy you know what i mean well she doesn't have a magical
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pussy okay she has a like just a good what's the regular girl regular pussy okay okay and that
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was your first that's women get very uncomfortable with this topic because they don't have they might
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not have the magical pussy do you have magical dick period no it's average go ahead well
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we'll say that was like your first you know that's how you lost your virginity like to an average
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woman i guess would you or would you not crave and want to feel what other pussies felt like what
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do you mean what do you mean so i lose my virginity to an average you lose your yeah you lose your
06:40:24.780
virginity to average pussy okay would you or would you not wonder what other pussies felt like because
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that's your first am i am i married to this no you're in a relationship though i don't think so
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would you still watch watch corn i don't watch porn in a relationship what yeah i don't watch
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porn if i'm in a relationship oh my god i don't masturbate either what well okay i don't know you
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just not fucking your boyfriend or what's going on yeah i'm having sex if i'm in a relationship
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how how long is your longest relationship how's that i don't know how that's relevant but five
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years five years like in in the last year did you have like how many times a week did you have sex
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well look i know you have a dead bedroom and you're to your relationship but yeah
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no sex yes like are you just not what's going on chill out bro yeah i don't masturbate i don't
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watch porn it's like one to respect my girlfriend and then two it fucks it's your choice it fucks up
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your brain if you're watching that shit i don't think so but if that's your choice that i'm fine
06:41:38.780
might it's your choice no i leave it all for her um yeah okay okay good for you
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do you guys watch porn masturbate when you're in a relationship or not no no i rarely do like ever
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like no i tell my girlfriend you can't even if she was masturbating masturbating before you gotta
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stop if you're with me oh my god you gotta save that build that pent up sexual whatever
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or am i just unleash it you gotta unleash it are you i don't think that's normal
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no you you she's gotta cut that shit out she can be sexually frustrated and then she can unleash
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that frustration on and near my penis okay oh are you in a relationship oh did i say that oh did
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you say that i'm asking i can't disclose i i don't disclose that on the podcast because i
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got stalkers oh are you fucking huh just in general i don't disclose i don't disclose any details are you
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answering anyone's okay am i entering anyone's holes vaginas or i don't know i'm a virgin
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yeah okay what was the question i don't remember i have no idea i don't know wait what were you
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talking about oh body count yeah body count i'm not gonna let you guys off the hook body count
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range come on 10 plus i were literally saying 100 okay oh two two okay 13 okay between one
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and 99 and anything more than seven years old falls off your credit score
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okay zero zero okay what's the question body count um like no more it's over 9 000
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sorry no that was uh damien who pressed that i would say no one's body count that's more than brian's
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what the fuck okay oh okay that's that's a fair answer so what is that exactly we have to ask
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brian i don't reveal well no you just you just said that it's not any higher than his
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that's fine what is that um i feel like because it's like three
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uh body count i'm erin so so one yeah the only one that matters come on range no i don't say unless
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you say zero zero yeah i'm a virgin okay what's your answer no i'm literally a virgin yo damien am i
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a virgin yeah yeah see yo desmond am i a virgin am i virgin yeah see that's my husband that's zero
06:44:37.500
i'm a zero what's your body count i i said i'm a virgin what the fuck bro
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okay good talk wait what about him you didn't answer habibi habibi
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did didn't you just say that i said what about him he didn't answer oh i heard habibi
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body count no his who's oh andrews go ahead andrew
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okay i guess people don't count devon jackson donated 69 dollars quick maths 800k plus only 20k
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followers plus only 300 likes and 20 comments for post equals you selling but we all know it
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i'll tell you what though there's more coming in by the way i'll tell you i'll tell you what my
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body count is if you tell me yours and we actually believe you i'm my body count is literally one
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what the legendary trash she said the name is 69 yo davon thank you man baby girl
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combing aside you look better without makeup also your right shoulder strap fell off i died for
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second also every time you scrunch your nose at me guaranteed forehead kiss girl stop who's baby girl
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smoking sumner donated 69 dollars if only fans was shut down as well as dating apps what would you pick
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up as a profession prostitution is illegal going around the panel oh also really quick multiply it
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by three and that's the real number for the body count of the people so i guess tiffany still zeroed
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like the math or whatever so yours is like nine the real tricks donated 69 dollars you don't
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understand how much models make depending on jobs smoking we'll get yours 800k is a lot but not
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unrealistic and she is pretty hot she is hot she she's hot wait hold on i have to go the intro really
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quick hold on sorry what's up andrew you probably your viewers probably heard that oh my god did this
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one come jack underscore m donated 69 dollars can we hear more from green blue tats respectfully and
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gamer cool hair btw just noticed i kind of want to hear more of what they have to say rather than
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the yak back 10s i agree we need to hear more from tiffany about what about
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oh i know let's talk to andrew about about um how men do everything better than women that's
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that can't that can't be true one sec one sec one sec hold on hold on let me try to get through the
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the notes here a little bit uh but there was a message from smoking some sumner apps what would
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you pick up as a profession oh if only fans was shut down as well as dating apps what would you pick up
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as a profession she's the only girl who has only fans so i can really only ask her engineering
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mechanical engineering right okay okay all right uh here let me get through the notes here going back
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to you uh we'll have to try to run these through these quickly because uh we're going a bit over time
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here uh where is it uh men are not the best at everything men are not the best at everything
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andrew quick 30 second response and then yeah so that's not the argument so this is just a it's
06:48:38.620
very standard that people will reframe my argument because uh they don't like the entailment that my
06:48:44.380
argument is correct because they usually are so the argument is just this that women uh are they can
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reproduce men cannot reproduce and so they're always going to be better in the position of reproduction
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than men because they're the only ones who can do it but when it comes to jobs and occupation there's
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no jobs or occupation that women occupy that men could not occupy and do it just as well as women do
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but there are jobs that men have in occupations that women will not be able to do as well as they do jobs
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and occupations only okay um sorry i have to limit the responses here can i ask about one profession
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go ahead have i heard you say before that women are better liars and if they are would that mean
06:49:30.540
they would be better undercover agents yeah i don't think that they're better liars uh i just think they
06:49:36.620
lie more okay you think women lie more than men yes yeah makeup no in fact makeup is a lie in fact
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in fact we did that one listen i can demonstrate this very quickly i can demonstrate this very
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quickly and i think every woman on the panel will agree with me women lie to each other constantly
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for self-esteem boosts so they'll either omit right or they'll tell each other that they look beautiful
06:50:05.100
when they don't look beautiful they'll tell each other that they're great when they're not great
06:50:08.940
uh they will tell each other all sorts of things which are completely totally false in order to create
06:50:13.820
social cohesion men don't do that boom we literally don't do that if a man looks like
06:50:19.820
shit and i notice that he looks like shit i'll literally look at him and say bro you look like
06:50:23.500
fucking dog shit and he'll usually look at me and go yeah women don't do that boom roasted that's
06:50:31.020
something that i wanted to ask i've misinterpreted what okay we don't remember what said we remember
06:50:34.780
what we think about what we hear uh you said online dating is trash in this digital world is what is
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keeping so many alone together i don't feel like you can get to know someone via messaging at all
06:50:43.260
and it's not until you're in person you can get a sense of what someone is like i moved from
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messaging to a date fairly quickly because i hate messaging back and forth with people i don't know
06:50:52.860
yeah yeah we've talked about that you said you've been online twice this year and it feels more and
06:50:57.420
more like a reject club we've talked about that yeah i'm not a bottom feeder i'm not going to do it
06:51:00.780
anymore i never wanted to do in the first place and i don't want to that to be my story anyway
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yeah i want to meet someone in real life okay you said so many liberals conflate wait hold on
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yeah and this has kind of come up a couple times people so many liberals conflate
06:51:19.340
femaleness or maleness with other characteristics or traits and i think that
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that's what makes it so enticing for some women to treat their sexuality like it's a commodity which is
06:51:35.260
very very dangerous game to play because as soon as you commodify your sex you can never get it back
06:51:41.180
and furthermore i think it's also this um uh it's also dangerous because it's what has turned into
06:51:53.100
this whole gender ideology which is just all lies and it's just not based in reality or truth because
06:51:59.260
when if uh if people like to talk about how uh the feminine is just your expression of what womanhood
06:52:07.980
looks like it's a performance you're conflating your femaleness with another characteristic or trait
06:52:14.220
and being female isn't carrying a purse and putting on makeup being female is your nature
06:52:20.780
and um you should hold hold your sexuality sacred and not commodify your sexuality and make sure that
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it and there's a distinction the legend donated 69 you have socks on that is a problem how am i ever
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gonna see those grippers if you keep them covered fr girl you know where to find me discord dot gg slash
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whatever come see me for a temple kiss wait legendary trash panda i'll do you a solid uh you over here
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can do a double bicep do tricep tricep oh it's not really seen myron oh it's seen right here yeah
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that's a good one all right cool um going to you actually uh as a ukrainian woman you moved to los
06:53:12.380
angeles in 2021 your dating experiences have been challenging in los angeles you haven't had a successful
06:53:17.820
relationship so far the woman you dated was in not in the us correct she was ukrainian
06:53:24.940
but in the us no no no she was from ukraine and she never moved here okay but you've been single
06:53:29.740
for two years okay and uh you said the main challenges you faced with men in los angeles
06:53:36.220
have been differences in a sense of responsibilities loyalty values and goals there's often a significant
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gap between my personality and the individuals you've met in los angeles yeah and you said
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you've been single for two years you've been celibate for two years no oh when's the last time you
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what was your last time i feel like you need it i'm a virgin it was about it was i pumped the brakes
06:54:11.100
over there it's not gonna be yours i feel like you need it uh who asked you andrew you smoke your
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cigarette let's answer yeah you were saying go ahead yeah it was it was about half a year ago
06:54:25.900
so like six months ago half a year is six months usually sorry the math it's wow you know champagne
06:54:34.940
really did you good i am a lightweight i get i'm still drunk actually okay and there's still half in
06:54:41.340
there all right you can you can share with me yeah i'm ukrainian okay uh they drink a lot i think um
06:54:50.940
um what what do you mean when you say uh difference in loyalty what i sensed not only from men but from
06:55:02.060
both men and women um during my stay in the united states specifically in california la
06:55:08.380
um i noticed the different sense of the responsibility as it is um when i interact with
06:55:17.980
the girls that possibly could become my friend or the men that could possibly become my partner
06:55:25.020
i often notice that their whole perception of the responsibility that they should possibly take
06:55:35.500
within their interaction with me is different from my expectations and my standards i am usually
06:55:42.940
much more committed to either friendship or relationship i just treat this whole
06:55:53.100
bond differently from them unfortunately so i'm including um polyamorous relationship and that that i
06:56:01.980
did not want and oh you've been in the poly relationship no no no no what i'm saying is that it doesn't really
06:56:08.300
fit my personality and this is what oftentimes the man that i was getting to know closer here they wanted
06:56:18.700
it or even the friendship again i'm not even talking about the dating experience right now just the regular
06:56:24.620
girls specifically la girls you know um the level of their responsibility for our friendship and their
06:56:33.340
willingness willingness to support to be there for me the real tricks donated 69 right smile world is
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intending you are still in the w i mean facts but you didn't need to interrupt me anyways do you understand
06:56:54.620
what i mean yeah yeah that was good yeah thank you thank you i have a question oh
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hxctx are donated 69 dollars blonde hair dressed as a red flag onesie men with a camera taking your
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instagram photos doesn't make you a model like drake said don't tell me that you model if you ain't been
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involved boom roasted the roast session hasn't even started do you want to respond you you okay yeah i'm
06:57:27.660
good i want to respond do you doing okay you want a snickers you're not yourself applesauce you're not
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yourself when you're hungry i'm good you want a finger perhaps do you want to talk about it no
06:57:44.620
red flag onesies kind of a flex what the fuck uh okay all right i got a question about a deal breaker
06:57:54.300
here i i'm just wondering so anytime i go out to dinner with my wife and then i had to think about
06:58:00.780
this because she's pointed this out for years but i just you know basically ignore everything she says
06:58:05.340
like a good husband uh but even thinking before her right anytime i go out to eat with a woman
06:58:14.940
i basically finish my food in two minutes so the food gets there and then i eat it in two minutes
06:58:20.220
it's just gone and then the woman is left with this full plate of food and it they just take
06:58:24.940
fucking forever to eat i don't know why i don't know why women take forever to eat but they take
06:58:28.460
forever to eat so is that a deal breaker like if i was on the dating market in the year 2024 and i went
06:58:35.020
out to dinner with a woman and they the food comes you know it's a big plate of food and then i just inhale
06:58:40.700
mine because that's what i do literally two minutes the food is gone uh it does that upset women do
06:58:47.100
they get mad about that are men supposed to pace themselves are we supposed to just cut our food
06:58:51.100
into like little teeny tiny bites and then eat that shit that way i'm curious i'm i'm like genuine
06:58:57.500
question you you know what we're actually going to kind of put this to the test um cena can you um
06:59:10.300
she's struggling almost as much as i struggle with that champagne
06:59:13.820
but it is true andrew that's actually a really good point there's this funny video of a guy who like
06:59:18.860
he was sitting next to his girlfriend and they had the same no no you can only do it in one bite go
06:59:47.180
andrew this is the perfect woman according to them stop it brian stop it's ridiculous you're just
06:59:55.100
like just here would you shove this in your mouth
06:59:59.500
look it's her it's her talent okay she does she's gonna choke to death i'm making her laugh
07:00:05.740
she's gonna choke on her rice andrew you're gonna get me a lawsuit here oh boy yeah so i mean
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i'm gonna have a question so i literally i'm not kidding when i say this that's why we were just
07:00:18.940
i don't remember we were going we're going over the hospital visitor dad we stopped off at a denny's
07:00:23.180
right and so they you know i ordered like this massive plate of food with like eggs bacon and
07:00:28.620
sausage and then i had a side of pancakes with it so i see we sit down at the table and i swear it
07:00:34.460
wasn't two minutes this entire all of it gone she's still kidding and she still had the whole plate of
07:00:41.500
food how it's not a deal breaker andrew did you just like wharf it down really quick because i i
07:00:47.180
eat super fast yeah i know like remember so we were leaving whatever studio we went over and we
07:00:53.660
got these burgers right so we sit down and we bullshitted for like 30 minutes while they made
07:00:57.900
the burgers the burgers come out they were gone in two minutes and then we were you know we were
07:01:01.900
up so basically the entire uh dinner that we went to leaving the whatever studio took two minutes it
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just took it took us two the food was all gone and we were we were up and up and walking right
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is that it are you supposed to do is that like good decorum on a date i don't know i haven't been in
07:01:18.860
the dating market in years and years but is it just bad decorum on a date if i went out on a date
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with a chick and i was like hey you want to go to this nice restaurant they brought this big giant
07:01:28.380
steak to both of us and i just inhaled that thing in two minutes would that be a problem
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ladies that's a question for the ladies i don't think so no it's not a problem i truly believe
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that you need to eat exactly in the pace that you are comfortable with and i mean if you appreciate
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that woman you will wait for a little bit the patient i'm comfortable with yeah that i think it's
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kind of weird for you to to match someone's pace of eating why would you do that that's cooked
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but then okay can can you tell me why the fuck women eat so slow i don't i actually don't understand it
07:02:09.020
i'm like there's a video i don't i don't get it you're not you you know you don't you don't have to
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like i'm here to explain that first of all we're trying to eat aesthetically plasantly for you private
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you know we're trying to not mess it up this is one of the main reasons why usually women eat a
07:02:27.180
little slower than you guys do the second thing maybe we yap a little more than you do during that
07:02:34.620
dinner you know um maybe we do follow the recommendations of that nutritionist that we
07:02:43.180
had a consultation with that says oh you gotta really chew like 30 times music donated 69
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i have a video for this by the way i have a video this is first timothy 2 11 to 15 and also first
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timothy 6 12. can andrew please tell me what this means wait andrew before you do besides the ten
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commandments i also try to follow the bill of rights andrew before you do i have a video for us
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it's it's fine sometimes tiktok gets bugs so just do it not f11
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okay go ahead play it trying to match my girlfriend's eating pace
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like that would have been gone already i would it would all been gone but this is exactly what
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you're talking about andrew yeah he's he's exactly what i'm talking about he's intentionally trying to
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match her eating pace i had a girlfriend who's just like this man well it looks like she's watching
07:04:04.060
something and he's just watching her dude even if you're watching so i eat faster when i'm watching
07:04:09.340
something that one just looks so good it's distracting where's that burger from
07:04:18.940
why do they take forever to eat i don't get it it's
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it's great my wife's always like did you want to taste your food you know so i'm one of those guys
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right i don't eat a lot but when i do eat i eat a big portion right so i'm one of those guys wait
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why is all of your suggested videos the same girl talking about me right now you know just wait your
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turn right over here for a second talking about me so anyway one of those guys eat the big meal one
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big meal a day and i just consume it in seconds right it's just gone now i feel like every guy i've
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ever gone to lunch with or whatever eats at about the same pace lightning right it's just gone
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i don't know why women eat so slow andrew your response to the tts that came in andrew please
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tell me what this means the timothy timothy verse
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oh can't hear you andrew can't hear you i'd have to pull the verses up and read them
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here i'll play them again i don't know if it helps perceptions music donated 69 dollars
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my favorite bible verses first timothy 2 11 to 15 and also first timothy 6 12. can andrew please tell
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me what this means because besides the ten commandments i also try to follow the bill of
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rights andrew i don't know this just sounds like trolling nonsense i don't even know what that
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means besides the ten commandments i follow the bill of rights one more zero one hundred and sixty
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nine donated sixty nine dollars long time watcher had to message red onesie with monopoly money false
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advertising via fake everything eyelashes down to roach claws just start over and repent false
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advertisement is real one more zero thank you so much for the tts man really appreciate it thank you
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everybody else for all the tts is do you have a response to this
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um going to you elizabeth your notes here your husband and you both served in the same battalion
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and you never knew he had interacted with me or i had met him a couple times before we started dating
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but we got engaged four months after the first date married three months later um what branch of the
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military were you guys in army army army why you say why you say like that andrew army and she said
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she was an 88 mike that's an army allocation for mos
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you talking about the army andrew no okay uh you think it's interesting that we seem to have moved
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from a pimp culture in the early 2000s to the three of foe culture we are currently in yeah i definitely
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think that in the early 2000s there was a lot more focus on like pimping culture so even in the music
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um and then i think with the emerging of some female rap artist we've come into this culture of
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empowering um this kind of hope 304 culture um and i think it's a little bit problematic
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for culture but i do i think it's a little bit problematic because um not only are we as adults
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like consuming this but like young girls are too and i think that's why we are in the situation where we
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have young girls becoming of age um and starting things like only fans
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true now you really quickly we can't talk about too long your biggest issue with the show
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biggest issue you got the biggest issue with the show this woman has a huge issue with the show not
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that big it's desiree it's desert it's not the show it's desiree it's just really quick uh what's your
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issue with desiree what's going on with desiree my issue with desiree is that she came on the show
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portraying that she is a therapist she's not um she really made cal baptist look bad that's a great
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school um and it is rooted in christian faith and they don't um ordain female ministers and her degree
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does not qualify for the state standards of a marriage and family therapist um and i think it's
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problematic to promote yourself as a relationship coach whatever life coach whatever she is but
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and also argue with andrew that she is of the higher authority when she really doesn't know what
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the fuck she's talking about and then uh also the stolen dollar thing yeah and then well not even that
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that because she was black she was stolen she said she was in the military she's a therapist she's a
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sex coach she's related she's related to hitler she was an officer in the army yeah well and that's
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the craziest story but um it just it i'm a leo i need her to make it fucking make sense for me and it
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doesn't and i think that it's problematic she's made it an ass out of herself and think she's an
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authority of what i don't know you uh you also said just moving off of desiree situationships are
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just commitment issues rebranded there's a fine line between keeping things casual and avoiding
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commitment entirely and many people settle for gray area relationships rather than confronting their
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fears of attachment yeah i think that um situationships are fear of commitment i also don't really see the
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point of like i think i said like dating for long periods of time with no commitment um i just
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don't understand that i mean it's not for me but um everybody's gonna live their life just really
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briefly before you move to the next note um in modernity it almost seems wise for a man to fear
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commitment i understand that i think i'm talking more so from the perspective of a woman
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well they don't seem like they fear commitment nearly as much as men do right men seem to be the
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one who are moving but they may move away from the committed relationships it seems in modernity
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anyway but i think modern women are contributing to why men are moving away from commitment in their
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actions yeah so that at all whether or not that that's if they have if they're running from
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commitment or not some of the actions that modern women are doing are pushing men away anyways
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oh i thought there was going to be more of a back and forth there okay um by the way guys tts is now
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set to give me one sec guys here tts is now set to 20 20 tts we're going to do a row session then we're
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going to wrap the show uh really quick though to finish up with your notes you also wrote that therapy
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talk isn't a free pass using phrases like boundaries and attachment styles without understanding them
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it can feel like people are hiding behind therapy language to avoid accountability or over analyzing
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every teeny issue instead of just getting to know each other yeah i think that for some reason well i
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think that people are trying to destigmatize mental health and that kind of got ran wild with and now
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everybody's a narcissist now everybody's being gaslit everybody's everybody lacking boundaries they all
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have trauma and um i think it's really harmful because i i think you need to take responsibility for
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your trauma whatever you want to call it you need to take responsibility for that and it's not on other
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people to fix it so um and it's also a poor excuse to like can you uh can you i i agree largely with
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this take i would i would maybe uh like to ask a question because this is mind-blowing to me i can't
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think of another perceived medical profession which wants to be taken seriously which would ever allow
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laymen to speak on its behalf so in other words if somebody was sitting on the panel talking to us and
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saying i'm not a doctor but i'm going to explain to you exactly how the surgery goes or how to
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diagnose you with a b and c conditional that you have people would say no you should defer to a
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physician why in the world do you think that women think that it's okay unless psychology itself is just
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basically viewed as a joke to psychoanalyze everybody that they meet it's insane to me call them
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narcissists they say that they have psychopathy they say that there's you know some type of
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borderline personality disorder they over analyze and over psychologize everybody and i don't understand
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why that's allowed when in any other profession we would say no you're not qualified to make those
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assessments right um i mean i agree with you i think that there's an over consumption of armchair
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psychiatrists and therapists on tick tock they've done studies on that um to the point of adhd that
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a hundred percent of the videos tagged with adhd awareness have misinformation or misleading
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information and the same with narcissism and things like that so i think people are over consuming
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um mental health content and they're getting the wrong information and then as such
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there are psychoanalyzing people but i also think it's easier that this or that these organizations
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would run campaigns against this in order to not cheapen the very idea of the profession of psychology
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but i don't see any pushback at all right people make these grandiose claims about various disorders of
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various people that they've diagnosed they have no training in these fields whatsoever that's incredible
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to me that there's so little pushback though from these industries i just wonder what your take was
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it's incredible to me too i think that there should be a regulation i well i have a couple of really
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strong views i don't believe in life coaches um or things like coaching i it's an unregulated field and
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i think that's also contributed to the harm with the mental health um but i also don't think that we
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people who are not qualified to speak on certain topics in general should not be able to be an
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authority on social media and the problem is is that on social media now if you're speaking about
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something people are taking it as advice and um not everybody's qualified to do that okay and i didn't
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want to clarify something though because there was somebody on the podcast too who said that they had
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a bachelor's degree in psychology a bachelor's degree in psychology also does not give you any
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any any credentials training or anything on diagnosing they don't even talk about diagnosing
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in a bachelor's degree program i have a bachelor's in psychology and then a final note here for you
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by the way tts is twenty dollars we'll do a brief roast session twenty dollar tts through streamlabs
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that's streamlabs.com whatever uh you also said being unhealed is not an excuse everyone has
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baggage but dating shouldn't involve relying on others to fix you sometimes the best move is stepping
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back to work on yourself instead of jumping into a relationship yeah i mean case in point what i said
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i'm also a therapist so but um i i feel like we look for others to kind of fill empty spaces within
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ourselves sometimes and really what needs to happen is we need to step back and look at the mirror because
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even with therapeutic work the world is not changing around you you are changing right so that's why
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things like boundaries and stuff start to work because you start removing yourself from those
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situations people are not going to change around you the world is not a safe place unfortunately
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and so you have to do the work for yourself and not put it on other people well isn't this uh most of
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this tied back to a materialist mindset of i have a some type of void or something in which i want and so
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therefore a material thing will fill that in this case just looking at another human being as being a
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material object which fills the void right so this is the same concept isn't it exactly well and that's
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why too with even online dating sites it's like amazon right you're going through you're swiping
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you're picking you're picking you're picking one to add to your collection or to add to your life and
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then you get upset in three four or five months when it didn't fill up the void because you didn't
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do the work and then you go on to talk and call him a narcissist you have to find this uh alternative to
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materialism itself don't you like there's no way around that right right yeah yeah okay yeah i mean
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daryl underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars no hf4 is 41 years old more like 51 she
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reminds me of gloria rob schneider's girlfriend in grown ups who the fuck is that guy okay
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what the fuck guys can you roast me i need to be i anisa needs to be roasted i well and uh real
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quick she wants to be yeah well while there's a break uh it's 3 30 in the morning here on the east
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coast and i have an appointment i have to get to in the morning yeah we are at the end of the show
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though brian um but i i do have to bounce out a tiny bit early yeah of course uh appreciate you coming
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on the show andrew uh shoot us over a raid i'll welcome the crucible crew of course with open arms
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uh thank you so much andrew for uh joining us tonight it was a good stream no problem it was
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great to meet everybody on the panel it was nice to meet you also i i do enjoy the spirited back
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and forth i hold no ill will towards anybody here and uh this was a this was a great set and a great
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show so i hope you guys all had a lot of fun appreciate it yo andrew have a good night by the
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way guys before andrew leaves uh oh no he's still there uh guys so we have a big guest on sunday
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andrew will be doing a call in on sunday uh you know assuming you know there's no hiccups with
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anything and then uh we have we're going to be co-streaming on election day november 5th
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on tuesday i'll know you're going to be in studio for that by the way what's that are you going to be
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in your studio here for that yeah i'll be here and uh we'll just basically just have you do a call
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in you have your stream and i'll have mine and we'll just kind of yeah sounds awesome we'll just watch
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what's going on with the uh election so guys everybody vote trump vote trump anyway i gotta
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get out of here yeah good night andrew great to meet all you good night andrew thank you have a
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good night poodles respectfully i've been i've been trying to make it till 12 30 but respectfully my
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brain's been shutting down for 30 minutes and um it's a good time for me to say goodbye too well i've
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been up for we're wrapping up okay yeah like five ten minutes okay uh just hang tight here uh
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uh tenzin here cena you get to read these super chats so you know you're cute don't waste yourself
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guy who oh trash that is trash panda who wants to oh the feet guy what are you doing she's flirting
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with trash panda i keep yeah we have a connection now okay we have uh this one also if you want to
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read it cena the same thing oh it's the same shit oh it's no yeah yeah wait yeah yeah panda down
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back he put it it's the same one yeah oh he sent it twice okay all right thank you tenzin appreciate
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it guys if you want get your last minute last call guys on the uh row session 20 tts we have this one
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ghost hammer donated 20 brian would you like some pineapple pizza andrew cool beans yes i
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actually don't like pineapple pizza but i will have it when andrew's here just to
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torture him uh let's see here what yo the crucible crucible the crucible thank you thank you
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andrew for the raid he just sent over a raid really appreciate it uh andrew welcome everybody
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from the crucible guys guys crucible crew i know some of you have twitch accounts if you guys could
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so kindly follow us on twitch because one of these days me and andrew are going to be playing world of
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maybe the prime is is working again on twitch lugasson thank you for the prime uh 92 thank you for the
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also shout out stifler hashtag big labia matter anybody here rocking sorry did i say that out loud
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my bad i'm just trying to support like i i'm just like a solidarity i'm trying to show solidarity with
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all the big labia ladies uh 20 tts we have a couple coming through snap more donated 20 we are too
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involved in materialistic things and they don't satisfy us the loving relationships we have the universe
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snap more thank you very much for the uh tts man i really appreciate it
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is it was shakespeare night donated twenty dollars it's a good cast love the cast tonight
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10 out of 10. the banter between chair six and brian was awesome wait really green is chill as hell too
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red keep your skin account full the banter was there was there banter between
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i feel like we're just consulting each other mostly yeah i guess that's banter for some people
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uh all right smirk he's donated twenty dollars chair one tamu kardashian chair five your nose is
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fine yeah chill out tiffany yeah what are you going to even do what are you going to do to your nose
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you make it a little more pointy or something no i'd make it like bigger no like you'd like
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what's the problem is it from this is it from the front or from the side from the side you're tripping
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bro yo ladies is she tripping yeah i was saying that i want my nose to be like higher like a white
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person's because i don't like my asian flat nose but i actually want my nose to be flatter like i want
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to make it like i want to like like curve it down like like that wait turn turn to the
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it's like straight i know and i don't like how it's so like you want it up you know i want it to
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like curve down a little like that uh okay i'm not sure what you're talking about but sure
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the real tricks donated twenty dollars and gel simping on red gorgeous
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oh period are you like trying to do the ahigao thing or whatever what is it
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you don't know what that is donated twenty dollars none of these women are attractive enough to simp
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over damien why are you laughing at that you should not know what that is on a good day and chair one is
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a four she has a frog face damien do you have a waifu pillow like an anime pillow yeah do you wait are
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you joking are you serious no i'm serious oh my gosh okay um wait do you don't you don't know what
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the ahigao how do you fucking say that shit does i do not know what that is how do you say all right
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show her sure i can't do it huh no like no no do it show here but show her it's like when you like
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stick your tongue out across your eyes right oh yeah oh no no no no no no no no wait no mike was blocking
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you no don't do it again okay no i totally understand what you're talking about no i totally
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agree with the comments every single compliment that i hear about all the women here i just kind
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of support it with my tongue i don't know it was random anyway what it's after midnight sorry as
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soon as andrew leaves i start becoming a fucking weeb or whatever okay we have a few more coming
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stop complaining chair three looks like the champagne calmed her down after two cups
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first show with no rage quits congrats i know it's been a string daniel nosseri donated 20
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dollars yeah daniel thank you mental health issues are not an excuse for your degeneracy
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whether you like it or not no white dude will ever date a white chick that has taken a bbc no
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matter how sweet and remorseful you are hold on hold on for donated 20 dollars
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uh i mean tell her tell her to come back on the invitation's there i think she's i think she's
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funny were you on with her yeah with leila yeah no when she kept hitting on you you were on that
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show yeah oh okay well you know she should come back on she's funny uh we have some guy
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do you want to read this one cena chair four you need to lock something down now chair five
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no no the nose job you're fine the way you are chair six ratchet af hard pass chair seven thank you
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for your service sister hey there you go i just know this guy is ratchet to call me ratchet
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takes one to no one oh is that like the take oh wait yeah oh my god i was about to just repeat
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takes one to no one you already said it sorry my brain is like i'm running on zero zero uh wait
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and then there was let's see what we have okay guys last call on the ttss oops my bad last call
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on the ttss guys if you want to get them in uh we're gonna wrap up here i'm gonna get a twitch
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raid going any final thoughts final disagreements final arguments final whatever dating anything
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dating related you want to ask me a question about dating because i'm obviously an expert and know
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everything um anything from anybody disagreements question thoughts opinion feelings i had a great
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time today yeah thanks for letting me participate in the conversation thank you guys for coming
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appreciate it appreciate it we're gonna do who are we going to raid let's see who was that good
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night it's 12 30 oh you you can't stay for the no it's like your heart out yeah i i've been i've
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been watching the clock looking for 12 30 for 20 minutes like and then you said we were almost done
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and so i was like okay i'll stick it out oh that that's what i'm doing that's what i'm doing right
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now saying goodbye yeah it's like probably three minutes kind of rude but okay it's okay though
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some people have have hard outs i don't think i mean if i want to be like a goblin i would call
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it a rage quit but it's it wasn't a rage quit look she's tired she's tired we have to be understanding
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we have to be understanding five inch legend donated twenty dollars
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no okay ho olympics there you go crazy do we raid whoa grandma yo chat twitch chat and youtube chat do we
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raid raid whoa grandma or do we raid ampi he's a world of warcraft classic player who's a male
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and he's playing hardcore classic he's playing a mage though chat do we raid ampi twitch chat do we
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raid ampi or do we raid whoa grandma pick one pick one that's who we're gonna raid
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one sec guys go wholesome brian wholesome grandma we always raid her though we always raid her
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uh sure we'll do we'll do wholesome we'll do wholesome i was toxic tonight so i feel if i'm
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kind of toxic i have to uh do a little wholesome moment at the end there so uh okay let me do the
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outro one sec guys i'm getting the raid all set up okay uh can you get whoa grandma pulled up here
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uh damien i'll get that sent on but guys like the video on your way out uh let me send let that come
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through siri donated twenty dollars emergency herpes meds need to be applied on time to the
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minute bro is what it is the the minute what's that oh oh she's okay well i'll check in in just a
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sec after i do the intro if she's still on break then we'll raid ampi okay so uh i'd like to end the
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show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you a call to action would you
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consider stopping sex work entirely tonight why because i said so that was a terrible sale sorry
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that was bad because i said so and the whatever podcast is hiring and will hire you we we pay slave
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wages um anisa back uh we are hiring more background characters and we will give you a job but you have
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to stop being a whore i mean uh only fans girls sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry
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no what the bruh because why would i want to be your background character when i can be the main
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character in my right i'm also not from what the fuck does but you're not what i'm not from here
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oh right well you're just gonna illegally immigrate and then tiffany can hate you for it she's canadian
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um but okay so okay fine you don't get i i retract the job offer will you just stop
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doing sex work for the good of the nation of canada actually you know what keep doing sex work
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fuck canada actually no stop sex work because still
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what you're really bad salesman you are a bad salesman okay you picture then that was not my goal that
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no okay give her the russian pitch no i'm you can try it once again just do it better
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huh just do it better say okay you're still okay here's the pitch here i'll give you a pitch cena
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you're 18 you're still young you can get out of this shit because i've seen a lot of girls look
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i've interviewed over a thousand girls on this podcast 200 to 300 of which were not that much
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different from you some of them older than you some of them been doing the porn shit much longer
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right a lot i've had a lot of girls who used to be in the shit and they regret it they say yeah
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all that money wasn't worth it any in any case you're gonna become canada has a good social
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safety net system so you're fine even if you get homeless whatever though the government will take
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care of you secondly secondly you're gonna become a mechanical engineer you already have high earn
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earning potential what good does it do a man i'm oh my god fuck hold on sorry so sorry i i uh what
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good does it do a man to sell his soul but for what should i wow desmond distracted me bro
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for what cena look at me look at me look at me in the eyes are you looking hold on let's do a split
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give me a split cena for what shall it profit a man though he should win oh my this is not the
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right bible verse bro are you for what for what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world
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sucking dick on camera bro you're forfeiting your soul i don't know if you're doing i don't
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know if you're sucking dick i'm just saying only fans girls do suck dick
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mm-hmm but at what cost the cost at what but at what cost cena the cost of connecting with your
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fans getting to know people personally god the cost of excuse me
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are you okay are you okay are you okay are you okay
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but i have a soul no you're selling it so you're giving my soul back yes i'm giving you your
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soul back before you're giving it back to yourself
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daryl underscore frank castle five hundred and twelve donated twenty dollars brain she has to go
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feed her cats let her go she's a perfect example on how even fat ugly and old beaches still have
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more dating options than an attractive man oh my god panda slayer donated twenty dollars chair
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three i will fight panda for your hand in marriage ten tenths
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wow there's a panda trash pan there there's a battle
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thor donated twenty dollars hey leila jenner one of the panel guests recognizes you even brian i wants
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you back chat clip this she's kind of famous that's why is she yeah i've seen her on tiktok
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savani's donated twenty dollars brian thanks for all the hard work you and the team do behind
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the scenes yo w damien six one you don't need the materials of the world for validation got the
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double d's back and tense beauty through the makeup all the best oh seven yeah thank you so much uh
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savon it's really appreciated thor panda slayer all you guys all you guys who are super supportive
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and uh who are patrons of the show we could not do it without you i'm not saying that to exaggerate or
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or gas any you guys up like we could not do the show without the viewers uh without the uh you know
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it's it's viewer supported like a podcast in terms of the the viewership we do the audience size we have
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the view the the live viewers and the the total views that the show gets i mean bro we should be on
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some color daddy shit like that's what we should be we should be getting the wait hold on am i about to
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oh no wait now who's gonna be the medici family and stand up and let me create more or do you want
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to marginalize me till i'm out of my moment bro i'm telling you man that's i don't know what's what's
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all the like common i don't know what what's like the common youtube sponsor audible we're not getting
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that shit bro anyways whatever okay okay cena read this please go ahead oh my goodness trash panda
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chair eight discord says you're probably with like horn chips and b-o-l-o-l chair three i bid you
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farewell my maiden come find me on my discord my beloved let at them let me at them feet what the
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fuck what what oh you can take that seat over there okay oh sorry yeah that's all good uh we'll
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just get everybody at the panel uh let's see here guys okay they just keep coming in uh kitten bear
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donated twenty dollars brian what a fact your sales pitches suck chair eight you're my fave chair one
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smile chair three i'll fight the raccoon two for your honor but keep those hooves to yourself
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okay uh let's see here uh just getting everything all figured out oh the call to action okay so you'll
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stop no okay here's two dollars i'll give it to you if you do the uh into this camera the ahi go go ahead
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do it two dollars two dollars two dollars it's worth more than two dollars you did it for free
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not worth it you know how much a two dollar bill is worth no oh wait it's not worth it's worth more
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but i'm from canada yeah so it's worth like a million dollars in your currency canadian dollars
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what do you mean yeah your canadian dollars are shite no they're plastic
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okay all right uh so you'll quit only fans then no okay good talk okay i tried my best okay uh so
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fuck that was my bad gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please
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on your way out let me just double check here okay thank you for tuning in tonight you could have
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been anywhere in the world but you were here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who so
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generously supports the show super chats donates watches uh prime subs all that stuff really appreciate
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you guys thank you so much for supporting the show thank you to the panel you guys were dope
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thank you guys we will be live again stay tuesday sunday sunday sorry losing track of time here
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we'll be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific with another dating talk any girls who want to be on
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the show dm out whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara i'm gonna send the raid
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to woe grandma if you can get that pulled up we're gonna send that over here
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right now guys she's world of warcraft classic she's 82 be nice okay thank you guys for watching
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on twitch i'm sending the raid right now i hope you guys have a good night that's going on twitch
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on youtube we'll get out of here in just a moment is there audio on oh yeah
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oh she's other she is just i don't know what she's doing that's less than five minutes so still not
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hey thank you for the raid who is just priest trying to invite me why is somebody trying to invite me
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why some priest is trying to invite her unbelievable welcome raiders
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she goes hard this is this is i appreciate that thank you oh it's a whatever
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w will grandma keep pwning noobs or whatever it is
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my goodness sakes what are you guys saying in the chat everybody
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neither do i okay all right they start all right there it is folks that's the show that's the show
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i don't think i've ever had girls start clapping all right uh so let me just double check make sure
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there's no other chats that came in no we are all good okay guys like the video oh sevens in the chat
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uh uh good night guys we'll see you on sunday good night guys