Whatever Podcast - NEVER Had A Boyfriend At 38⧸33？! VlRGlN Until 26？! Brian CONFRONTED On Marriage？!

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00:03:14.160 have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation where you're from

00:03:18.740 and education um hi i'm bella i'm 19 and i'm from orange county california um i'm at ucsb right now

00:03:26.680 studying pre-law okay uh and the the major is it's pre-law yeah gotcha uh and are you employed at

00:03:34.660 all right now we're just focusing on school i'm just working at a retail store down in ivy okay not

00:03:39.040 that much yeah yeah uh what about you i'm sabrina i'm 23 i'm from westchester new york but i live in

00:03:44.600 london now i do of and i completed some university okay and uh are you just here visiting or i'm here

00:03:53.440 visiting the states for about a month before i go back to europe is one of your uh parents do they

00:03:58.860 have uh like uk citizenship or what are you doing in london no i just i'm really into football like

00:04:04.580 soccer and so i moved out there to kind of go to the games and stuff because i'm a nerd okay got it

00:04:10.820 but i love america all right what about you hi i'm sierra i'm 36 years old from seattle washington

00:04:17.520 i've been a dental assistant for 15 years but for the last seven i've been um pretty much a stay-at-home

00:04:23.960 mom uh i went to trade school for dental assisting and then i completed about half my bachelor's in

00:04:30.700 psychology all right cool cool what about you dakota ray 38 um i'm born and raised in la

00:04:38.280 uh i work in politics and i went to ucla graduated with an anthropology degree with focuses on biological

00:04:45.600 linguistics and cultural all right got it what about you uh i'm sativa i'm 30 i live in

00:04:53.940 oklahoma but i'm from california um i'm an artist and a college dropout okay all right what about you

00:05:00.760 hi my name is jacqueline thomas i went to college as a college athlete and i went for my bachelor's

00:05:09.320 and my master's and i am a stay-at-home mom and a homeschooling mother and whatever other hat i need

00:05:17.260 to wear i wear it well all right all right sorry could you just i missed that uh repeat your age

00:05:22.020 i didn't say it 41 ah okay uh what about you okay uh hi i'm haley i'm 33 i also live in oklahoma hello

00:05:32.140 um right now i kind of work at a college like um as an usher security at all the different sports

00:05:40.280 games you know football whether it's softball all of them and my highest level of education is high

00:05:45.920 school all right hello my name is felicity hughes i'm 19 from santa barbara and i'm a professional

00:05:53.060 eye crosser she works for the works for the podcast all right uh going around the table once more

00:06:00.360 what's uh what's everyone's relationship status if you're single how long have you been single

00:06:05.320 and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you um i'm single right now

00:06:10.120 i've been single for like two years and then my longest relationship was probably about like

00:06:14.520 a year and six months and that was in high school yeah okay uh who broke who broke up with who it was

00:06:22.400 mutual it was for college oh you guys split up like right before you went off to yeah like the day

00:06:27.000 before told like a hundred percent mutual or was there one person leaning more in one direction or

00:06:33.180 i mean i wanted to try out long distance but obviously like that's really hard and i can't

00:06:38.080 put blame on the person the other person for not wanting to do it so i had to respect him obviously

00:06:42.900 so we kind of made the mutual decision like yeah we'll break up and go our separate ways for college

00:06:49.060 new lifestyle sure what about you i'm in a relationship right now we've been together

00:06:54.040 since the end of summer and my longest relationship was 13 months you said you've been together since the

00:07:01.760 end of summer yes your current relationship current relationship so three months three months safe to say

00:07:07.480 okay okay yes and your longest was 13 months yes who broke up with who i broke up with him okay and

00:07:15.220 then i've i uh found online you had some like boyfriend application thing or something um is that

00:07:22.440 how you found your current boyfriend he did the bf application no he didn't okay that's funny all right

00:07:29.460 uh sorry the the 13 uh month relationship yes who initiated the breakup i did what and why was that

00:07:37.940 he was a bit of a porn addict and i had found porn again on his computer and at this on this time

00:07:44.360 it was a pc it's a gaming pc why are you watching porn in a gaming pc i was just fed up so broke up with him

00:07:50.900 don't you produce porn though good question i produce i produce boobie pictures which is technically

00:08:00.420 yes it was technically porn i'm a yeah okay were you doing the uh the only fans when you were with him

00:08:08.060 no this was three years prior to it three years prior correct gotcha um so that uh your relationship

00:08:17.780 predates the start of you doing only fans um would you have an issue now i guess like say your current

00:08:23.180 boyfriend who you've been seeing for three months if he was uh watching porn would you have an issue

00:08:28.200 with it no now you now you wouldn't no now i wouldn't i think i've matured and became less insecure

00:08:34.000 since then but also yeah well i don't know if a woman's insecure if she doesn't want her boyfriend

00:08:41.080 watching porn i don't know if that would make her insecure but was that the reason why you had an

00:08:45.200 issue with it he couldn't get heart that was the biggest issue which was a result well i don't know

00:08:48.960 if that would make you insecure but yeah uh yeah if the porn consumption has a negative impact

00:08:54.660 on the relationship in this case for sex life i think it's kind of a valid yes issue to have um

00:09:02.620 but uh what about okay what if he didn't watch porn your current boyfriend but he he was like

00:09:08.480 subscribe to a girl's of page not because of to consume her nude content but to

00:09:15.340 conversate with her would that be an issue i would prefer he buy her nude content than

00:09:23.140 talk to her because i mean that's a big portion of only fans it's not just the posting of the nude

00:09:28.140 photos it's like the back and forth girlfriend experience parasocial yes conversation thing that

00:09:37.120 would be an issue for sure okay uh right what about you i am currently in a relationship we've been

00:09:44.100 together for three and a half years and then my longest relationship was four years all right

00:09:50.280 four years ever married no any kids yes i have we have a one-year-old with my current boyfriend

00:09:56.860 one and a half and then i have a six-year-old with your four-year yes okay uh let's see the four-year

00:10:05.300 relationship who broke up with who neither death ended that one oh uh sorry to hear may i ask what

00:10:11.960 happened uh heart issues he was 35 i see okay yeah so he passed away when our son was 10 days old oh wow

00:10:19.800 yeah dang were you guys living together at the time or was the relationship otherwise good or yeah

00:10:25.940 everything was probably yeah it's good it had been we just had our son just bought our house and

00:10:32.100 did he have a like a history of heart issues or he was a competitive bodybuilder steroids for a very

00:10:38.480 long time so yeah that certainly had something to do with it like was he actively taking like trt or

00:10:45.840 steroids while during that time period yeah oh yeah when when i found out that we were pregnant he

00:10:52.160 came down a lot and then it just didn't matter in the end i don't think i'm curious if uh if you get

00:11:00.160 pregnant while you you know the the father is like taken because like if the father smokes

00:11:08.020 doesn't that have an impact on the sperm quality so like if you're taking trt if you're taking

00:11:14.160 steroids does that have some sort of impact on great question i thought the same thing and does

00:11:21.220 it could have an issue potential issue i don't know i asked the doctor and he said no that everything

00:11:27.780 should be perfect like what if your kid just is like fucking i know just jacked yeah but no you

00:11:34.200 ever seen those super buff like seven year olds that's crazy yeah yeah okay well uh i assume the

00:11:41.280 kid's healthy i'm yeah absolutely he's he's he's more of a musician than a bodybuilder were you guys

00:11:46.720 like uh was it a unintended pregnancy or were you guys trying to get pregnant like we know what we're

00:11:53.040 doing but we we weren't being careful i think honestly he he thought he was like sterile because

00:12:00.440 of all of the steroids that's what he was told yeah um but obviously like we know what we're doing

00:12:05.840 uh right yeah so he wasn't well yeah because i i think when you're my understanding when you're

00:12:11.580 taking uh trt testosterone replacement yeah i think doesn't that like temporarily at least while

00:12:18.220 you're taking it make you essentially sterile it's supposed to yeah that's what i was saying so

00:12:22.960 yeah so so uh you guys were not aiming to have a kid but not at the time we knew we were going to

00:12:34.180 get married we knew we were going to have kids that was all in the plans but yeah was there like

00:12:39.560 a specific was he in the sauna or something when it happened or just been asleep actually oh like were

00:12:46.360 you next to him i wasn't i was in the nursery with the baby but i'm the one that found him

00:12:51.940 and yeah at home yep it was at home yeah that's as easy sorry to hear that thank you um okay and so

00:13:00.060 but you have so you have two kids one from your uh i guess does that make you a a widow or no if you

00:13:07.000 weren't married so if you're married i guess but okay um what about you uh currently single

00:13:14.700 and i've never had a boyfriend hold on whoa i've had like a situationship and i've dated but i've

00:13:23.660 never had like an official boyfriend okay uh well i guess what's the you said you had a situationship

00:13:29.200 what's the longest period of time that you've like seen a guy that was two years two two years but i

00:13:36.440 mean no title no no did you did you say i love you no and you were saying i mean but we did i mean

00:13:44.800 we loved each other but we didn't say it out loud until like way later after you guys broke up yeah

00:13:50.160 wait what hold on it's complicated i mean he was he was an athlete so um yeah okay wait so uh and was

00:14:00.260 was it on again off again or was it like a two-year straight well um i don't want to give tmi but i

00:14:07.020 was 26 and i lost my virginity to him so it was uh it was on again off again but he didn't live here

00:14:13.960 so every time he'd come into town we'd hang out and um he wasn't seeing anyone else at the time i it's

00:14:20.620 yeah it's a lot but yeah was was he was he a u.s athlete yeah an olympian oh okay what uh okay so

00:14:29.800 when when you said he came to town i was like oh yeah he lived uh where snows because he was a

00:14:36.720 a winter a winter luge snowboarding snow oh snowboarding okay um interesting okay

00:14:45.140 but yeah does he have red hair no oh my gosh no but he competes with what's yeah what's that guy's

00:14:52.220 name with the sean white yeah yeah uh okay hey kaibaka thank for the gifted why won't it let me

00:14:59.780 oh here we go kaibaka thank you for the gifted 22 subs thank you kaibaka appreciate it

00:15:05.860 oh jake thank you for the raid man appreciate it hope you had a good stream uh okay so uh never

00:15:13.780 wait sorry and just i i got distracted from all the other details there like uh lost her virginity to

00:15:21.540 him at 26 yeah um were was it on and off or not really yeah i mean it was like i mean it was look

00:15:30.600 just a little closer to the mic oh yeah it was definitely on and off for two years he'd come

00:15:34.980 to visit i'd go up there to visit him we never made it official but we both knew were you dating

00:15:40.260 other men during this time period was he dating other women no on god yeah that i know for sure

00:15:47.000 you you know for sure he wasn't yeah but i mean he was like in a different city different state

00:15:53.240 true so anything could be possible but but from my gut instinct and what he's told me i i highly doubt

00:16:01.040 it how often would you guys see each other um a couple times a month i guess we'd try to make it

00:16:06.960 work so you would go there he'd go come here yeah same yeah okay so like every week basically or

00:16:14.340 maybe less than a couple a couple times a month maybe two to three times a month yeah two times

00:16:19.400 every other week yeah you'd see each other okay and this was a very long time ago like hard to recall

00:16:25.700 the obama administration yes unfortunately and um okay um that was a scary time was he a virgin too

00:16:37.900 because no absolutely not absolutely no way okay um do you snowboard also or i tried you try yeah

00:16:45.560 didn't work out so well i'm a skateboarder but skateboarder um have you dated anybody else no

00:16:52.540 just him dated well uh yeah i guess uh yeah i mean i've dated yeah you've had other situations yes of

00:17:00.240 course yeah besides the two-year snowboard olympian guy by the way like did he place

00:17:07.100 medalist no no not in the olympics but he he's a decorated snowboard uh half pipe rider

00:17:14.720 somebody's gonna find figure out who that is probably it's coming but besides him i guess what's

00:17:21.260 the next longest period of time that you've not had a boyfriend but yeah i had another

00:17:26.380 situation ship that was like maybe seven months this was also a long time ago was that that was

00:17:33.380 after i don't care you know what do you mean about i mean everything yeah you don't care no like

00:17:40.080 no i'm so kidding no i mean i i advocate for for people to have families and i totally believe in

00:17:47.800 the nuclear family um i just love being alone okay i do i love my peace i love my dogs i you know the

00:17:55.040 dogs okay and but yeah do you let's say you were to meet the right guy though do you think you would

00:18:01.680 want kids or are you kind of not not wanting kids no no i mean who knows because you can meet someone

00:18:07.780 and then your entire perspective on life could change and you could want things you never wanted

00:18:11.660 before so who knows but as of right now there's not a single person that i could imagine having to be

00:18:17.960 connected with for the rest of my life if you were let's say you found a great guy tomorrow

00:18:25.700 and you uh actually i'll save that for i'll save that question for later um but okay so you were

00:18:33.580 uh 26 you lost your virginia at 26 to a snowboarding olympian uh that's that's cool but like in college

00:18:42.660 did you you didn't date at all a lot of people date in college yeah you know definitely did not

00:18:47.100 i'm not sorority i was in a sorority yeah i went to ucla i was a delta gamma dg what's that yeah okay

00:18:53.780 yeah uh dg do you know is there a chant uh i know like we did this a lot what's it's like the wave

00:19:00.320 ahoy like is that a long time ago yeah yeah that's a dg thing okay do you um still kick it with any of

00:19:08.840 your sorority sisters no i mean we're friends on the internet and that's about it but i was in music

00:19:14.480 at the time so i was out on tour a lot um and then i'd come back on school yeah i uh stagehand or

00:19:22.120 no i was um really close with the band paramore i got my start in music when i was 18 uh they were

00:19:29.580 my first interview and we hit it off and we're friends for like a decade so i'd go out on the road

00:19:34.480 with them and i just was kind of like you know a little detached from the sorority but yeah yeah

00:19:40.500 you know still lived in the house so you would like um were you doing like media or press for

00:19:45.780 that for paramore or well uh for them i was mostly just on the road hanging out like we were buddies

00:19:51.020 so was there who uh what's her name the lead haley haley were you friends with haley yeah we have

00:19:56.480 matching tattoos yeah no way that's it yeah that's dope yeah she's cool i i like her she's a really

00:20:01.840 good singer too she i mean yeah what's that imagine what's their uh i have their hit on my

00:20:06.820 one of my playlists their misery business misery business yep yeah and can you sing it i can but

00:20:12.860 i won't come on blast it but uh no you'll have to pay right i liked their new they had a hit i think

00:20:19.480 like two years ain't it fun ain't it i think they won a grammy for that one yeah i like that one too

00:20:25.000 yeah normally like bands that were you know big 10 20 years ago yeah don't man i mean i've worked

00:20:32.040 in music for 20 years they are incredibly talented like they are truly talented people who are

00:20:40.300 deserving of all the success i saw them do online i saw like an acoustic cover of misery business and

00:20:47.400 she's a good singer she's a really good singer incredible uh shit we should have you should bring

00:20:51.260 her on yeah i mean if we were still talking we've kind of drifted oh yeah you guys had like a little

00:20:57.680 we didn't have a falling out but like um god i don't i'm not gonna air like dirty laundry but

00:21:03.780 let's just say we like kind of went separate ways i was in college and she was you know obviously like

00:21:10.120 a musician and yeah we just kind of like drifted apart i love her to death does she have kids i don't

00:21:15.740 think she has kids right no so you guys are kind of like a little bit in the same boat totally

00:21:19.440 because uh yeah you know just yeah focusing on yeah we were tight yeah healy never tight for a

00:21:25.920 while hey let's get hayley on that'd be sick i would love that i mean i have her email i cannot

00:21:30.140 yeah yeah shoot her an email she's she's very mysterious she you know she tries she keeps very

00:21:35.480 quiet and to herself in private i'm not sure if she would want to be on the show i think she just

00:21:40.060 said that uh if you're a republican don't don't come to her concerts no she said if you're racist

00:21:46.360 or oh so well you know what she meant something along those lines you know she's christian though

00:21:52.640 right well she grew up the whole band grew up christian they were the i mean i got my first bible

00:21:58.160 from josh you know after like a really um deep and intense like conversation we were all having about

00:22:04.580 you know uh christianity but yeah um i think she's kind of like i don't know i can't speak for her but

00:22:10.820 it seems as though she's kind of like gotcha stepped away from that cool cool well all right um

00:22:16.840 sorry i don't mean to monopolize no no it's all good um so okay besides the two-year guy there was a guy

00:22:22.540 you were seeing for seven months but this was all a long time ago yeah um i mean when's the last time

00:22:30.540 you've ever i guess been involved with something i've been celibate for like three years well

00:22:34.900 celibate for three years yeah involuntarily involuntarily involuntarily yeah hold on yeah

00:22:42.680 not at well um wasn't expecting that yeah well i don't know if you're involuntarily celibate i think

00:22:49.100 you're voluntarily celibate no i would i mean i'd obviously love to go on dates and like meet someone

00:22:54.700 but you know but when you say celibacy we're talking about sex right yeah okay yeah

00:22:59.880 um so i mean you're voluntarily no i really don't want watch here i can fix this immediately

00:23:07.380 no you're now voluntarily i mean all right okay i've just turned you from a incel to a vol cell

00:23:17.200 congratulations yeah that lasts it lasts for six weeks by the way okay so i'll proposition you again

00:23:23.480 in six weeks and you'll continue to be a voluntarily voluntary celibate we'll circle back we'll circle back

00:23:29.220 yeah uh so okay you've been celibate for three years though um have you been on any dates in that

00:23:34.540 time period though yes yeah how often would you say you go on dates well i'm on raya and hinge and i

00:23:41.740 talk to a lot of people but i never like follow through with going out do you think uh in terms of

00:23:47.700 what you're looking for would you say you have high standards no not at all no no they're on the

00:23:52.820 floor the standards not on the floor but like i don't care how much money you make i don't care

00:23:58.140 what you do no i don't care like so you'll date a guy at mcdonald's or yeah he's got an energy that

00:24:03.820 like get this girl a cashier burger flipper chick-fil-a they have to have like a you know

00:24:10.760 je ne sais quoi like a quality about them that's like undeniable you can work it you know what i'm

00:24:16.380 saying like as long as you've got like an energy some charisma yeah some charisma you have this you know

00:24:22.140 there's a lot of there's not there's a lot of really workers there's a lot of really insecure

00:24:26.640 charisma you know yeah well uh send them my way i will get you do you are there any carve outs when

00:24:32.700 it comes to the fast food like if they work at chick-fil-a you don't fuck with them no i mean

00:24:37.800 i don't eat fast food but you know it doesn't it doesn't really matter so any fast food establishment

00:24:42.520 i can link you're really honing in on that part but uh yeah sure okay but so don't care what about

00:24:47.380 other things like do you care about height anything like that yeah i mean i like athletic

00:24:51.760 people okay so can't be obese no definitely not i mean i don't mind what about like a dad bod

00:24:57.640 yeah i don't mind a dad bod at all in fact i don't like you know the these dudes per x yeah no oh

00:25:04.480 no oh i'm sorry it's not for everybody yes don't forget that it's not my body like all yoked no neck

00:25:12.200 but like what about like brad pitt troy or fight club yeah yeah that's that's fine yeah but you don't

00:25:17.820 want like bodybuilder no yeah okay i like it okay height though yeah six foot probably six foot i like

00:25:24.520 to feel small you know i'll tell you five five five five okay um so wait uh i don't want a short

00:25:33.240 k i kind of you said you said you sorry what was the thing you said though that you don't

00:25:37.700 about about money i don't care how much you said you your standards are not that high no i don't

00:25:43.240 know six foot that's not that's like really the only thing is like just be taller than me i don't

00:25:48.040 care how much money you make like you know and have like a good energy that like good energy you know

00:25:53.140 what when you say good energy what do you mean um god i don't want to just like a guy who i don't

00:26:00.060 want to say like is obsessed with me because i think that that sounds weird but a guy who's like

00:26:03.720 really really um attracted to me he's really attracted to you yes yeah someone who's like

00:26:10.720 really attracted to me yeah doesn't that give you the ick no it depends does that give you the ick a

00:26:16.780 little bit when he's like what do you think a little bit i mean if it's like too much like

00:26:20.940 no i'm the same way you want that yeah i'm a simp so it's nice you want the guy to be a simp i don't

00:26:27.940 know well do girls really like that what's that yes if it's your man yeah yeah but i don't mind

00:26:34.100 being the bigger simp simp is like a lover girl lover boy yeah oh no not that like you know but i

00:26:41.180 think there has to be a baseline like i think you have to already have pretty strong feelings for the

00:26:46.980 guy to like that behavior isn't going to be the thing that that i don't know what the right word is

00:26:54.460 that that brings upon your attraction to them like so just just a guy being insanely attracted

00:27:02.680 to you that in and of itself isn't going to be the trigger uh for your attraction to him no right so

00:27:10.580 there's got to be other criteria i have to find him attractive obviously right that's not like the

00:27:15.060 only thing but then i think at that point once you're already attracted to him then like

00:27:18.700 whether or not he's like being a simp i think you're going to still be into him

00:27:23.300 yeah maybe who knows because i only know once you're in it i think a lot of women are

00:27:29.060 are uh like he obviously it would be great the guy you're attracted to the guy you want

00:27:35.320 if he was all over you but i think and this applies to both men and women but i think there is a

00:27:40.120 component of the guy you want doesn't want you and the guy that wants you you don't want him and

00:27:47.560 that's like basically like if there's one way i could describe what's going on in the dating

00:27:52.800 landscape i think that's a lot of what's going on totally that's why it was i didn't lose my

00:27:58.620 virginity until i was 26 because i'd always be interested in someone they weren't interested in

00:28:02.720 me or vice versa there's an evolution in the relationship though the girl starts is my mic on

00:28:07.980 i'm sorry what okay well the girl starts off liking the guy a lot and the guy is really not

00:28:15.280 into you but what happens is he ends up being into you more that's the simp that you want not the one

00:28:21.020 that starts off and i hate seeing that terminology but that's the terminology we're all talking about

00:28:25.320 they start off like brian was saying and then they end up being the ones that are all over you

00:28:31.100 or or being the simp personality and that's that's the relationships that last not the ones that start

00:28:37.560 off where he's like yeah yeah that's the one that you say is cringe the one that you don't like and

00:28:42.240 you end up ditching him right it has to be a role reversal over time yeah um but yeah uh i guess we can

00:28:52.200 get into more of that but but were you like going on like hanging out with guys or uh in college at all

00:29:01.560 or not really no okay no i mean there was one guy like you know was i wasn't really crushing on him

00:29:10.000 but he was like really pursuing me a lot so that was fun but nothing ever happened i teased him a lot

00:29:16.740 you teased what do you mean you teased him i'm just like you know i know just yeah yeah yeah right

00:29:23.320 just flirting and um you know okay um and then you said you've been celibate for three years

00:29:31.780 so the guy from three years ago i guess how long were you seeing him

00:29:35.220 like a year wait a year yeah but you said two years and then yeah but that was just that was not

00:29:43.220 just sex yeah for a year just sex for a year yeah question though for for all these guys that so

00:29:49.940 there was at least what you've told us so far there was a two year a seven month and a one year

00:29:54.740 yeah um has there been like do you want more or have you been satisfied with the situations as

00:30:04.440 they've been they're fun and that's you know like i don't have any expectations on like getting married

00:30:10.740 so i'm just looking for like a companion and um you know i'm a woman who has needs so you know so

00:30:19.160 but i'm not asking for you know to lock it down or anything you know but so at any point in any of

00:30:26.340 these situationships i guess we can call them yeah were you like seeking for a commitment well yeah

00:30:34.060 that was when i got my heart broken when i was 26 with olympian with the snowboarder and since then i

00:30:40.900 have like never allowed myself to like get that close a guy before but so you would initiate the what

00:30:48.480 what is this what are we never want to be my oh no you would you wouldn't have so you'd date people

00:30:54.140 for two years and not be like because i don't i don't want to no you don't you don't want to

00:30:58.020 only with him the first guy did i ever want anything more than just like a situationship and

00:31:05.260 right but that was the only one did you say do you want to be my boyfriend yeah exactly that's

00:31:10.060 exactly what happened i said i said look you're going into season like i want to definitely make

00:31:14.880 sure that we're together and you're not like hooking up with snow bunnies in different you know

00:31:20.460 parts of the you know oh literal snow yeah absolutely there you go so um and he was like

00:31:27.940 but i like things the way that they're going and i was like peace yep yeah wait so but this

00:31:33.660 conversation you had because you said you were with him for two years yeah well off and on for two

00:31:37.660 years yeah but so that happened at six months one year that happened at like two years of you waited

00:31:44.760 two years to have the what is this yeah because we only saw each other a few times like a month so

00:31:51.120 it wasn't like and we actually went we actually went i think it was like a year after the first time

00:31:57.100 that we were together we were talking a lot within a year but we didn't see each other until like

00:32:02.200 oh well that's new details okay so you're saying you guys hooked up had sex and then you didn't see

00:32:08.220 him again for a year for about a year yeah okay but we were talking like every what do you mean talking

00:32:14.480 like we were every day yeah for the most part when you say talking texting or calling texting calling

00:32:19.300 facetime yeah how often would you call um call i don't know this you're talking like over 10 years ago

00:32:25.980 uh just i mean probably like i mean we we talked every single day so facetime uh you know calling

00:32:34.180 or text i can't remember like how often but we did you know i don't know man that sounds like a lot of

00:32:42.120 work i don't know does it sounds like a lot of work it's weird though because on one hand

00:32:48.840 on one wait hold on why why though so you guys hooked up you had sex and then god my dad's watching

00:32:59.040 this shout out dad what's up uh w dad you you guys were talking every day yeah and then later on in

00:33:12.160 your situationship you started seeing each other more frequently yes correct why uh like

00:33:18.780 what was the delay in you'd have to ask him so he were you trying to be like hey what's up yeah

00:33:25.000 come down yeah totally yeah and it just took you were trying to get him to come to you either or

00:33:29.820 yeah and you're like hey let me come see you and he was oh he was fucking another girl yeah probably

00:33:34.900 but you just said you i i well i don't know i i believe him when he says no so but but i mean just

00:33:42.700 to put it very bluntly sure um but it's uh it we're my confusion here okay is

00:33:51.280 how much time per day i'm not at like i'm not looking for on average would you guys say you

00:33:58.920 spent talking like when you had a call when you had a face time 15 minutes 30 minutes maybe yeah

00:34:04.600 maybe an maybe an hour yeah you know condensed were you and you weren't seeing other guys at

00:34:10.000 this time no and you were making yourself available to him yes yeah that's interesting

00:34:16.680 yeah he might be young he's definitely you might have been the beard that's that i give that like

00:34:22.920 a three percent probability chance but it's in the back of my head sure as anything is possible i'm

00:34:27.900 trying to diagnose this situation yeah anything i mean i think that it's it is a bit peculiar on one

00:34:32.340 hand uh like if a guy's not trying to meet up with you i would i would be my my suspicion here is

00:34:42.440 why is he spending all this time even communicating right with you to begin with and then i would also

00:34:47.780 i guess ask you well i guess you i mean well i it makes a bit more sense in terms of your interest

00:34:54.560 but it why is he spending all this time communicating with a woman who he's not trying

00:35:02.460 to have sex with that's weird yeah not just but not even that he doesn't like moving sex out of

00:35:08.760 the picture he's not even trying to like spend time with you in person and hang out with you

00:35:12.480 when you're making yourself available to meet up with him or i have to i mean my i'm maybe jumping

00:35:18.220 to conclusions there's another woman in the picture or i are you cool like are you just

00:35:24.540 i don't know dude i don't think guys i'm very talk to women but the thing is i'm such a casual

00:35:30.400 person and like i'm not you're go with the flow i'm very go with the flow yeah so if i'm not putting

00:35:36.860 any like restraints or any guidelines on him like i don't want to continue talking unless x y and z

00:35:43.260 yeah you know i'm not doing that i'm just like yeah we enjoy talking to each other every single day

00:35:48.320 that's these back and forths that you would have whether text or call were you initiating that or

00:35:55.440 no it was always him it was yeah because i never because this guy doing well i never wanted to come

00:36:01.340 across thirsty or desperate especially because i lost my virginity to him i didn't want him to think

00:36:06.660 i was clingy or anything it actually got to a point where he was like i feel like you don't even care

00:36:11.220 because you never hit me up there but yeah well i'm not gonna i'm i don't care you know i i truly

00:36:17.180 don't and i'm not a thirsty person and i'm not you know clingy or desperate so i didn't want to come

00:36:23.440 across like that wait wait hold on i think i'm i'm i'm painting a picture here okay so he wait oh

00:36:32.800 question okay so you meet this guy what was the context of how you met him um i when i was in

00:36:39.720 hawaii with paramore i met some professional surfers and uh no kelly slater no no so uh john

00:36:48.660 no i think i've met john john at like a opening or something um no it was uh uh what makua

00:36:57.280 makua rothman girl girl surfers who's the other girl yeah uh lacy peterson no she's older a little

00:37:06.540 bit older coco ho yeah coco was a homie coco yeah yeah coco was a homie for a while isn't she married

00:37:12.360 to the mma fighter uh i think well last i don't follow like gossip or you know tabloids or like

00:37:18.660 anything like that but the last time i remember she was married or not married to but dating uh another

00:37:24.960 snowboarder okay yeah the snowboarder boys and the surfer girls would hang out a lot isn't isn't uh

00:37:33.160 coco ho isn't she she might be married to ufc guy i'm trying to max all the way good for her wait

00:37:40.640 oh i'm thinking who am i thinking of i'm thinking of somebody else okay whatever okay um but yeah

00:37:47.100 through the girls i met him so he was in hawaii too no okay so when i was i got i knew the surfer

00:37:54.360 girls because when i was out there with paramore they took us to have like a lesson so i met kalia

00:38:00.660 who's a professional surfer um and uh weirdly enough she showed up at one of my friend's houses

00:38:07.900 and then i was like i know you from hawaii and then that's how it all like came about and then

00:38:13.660 she and i became pretty good friends and then through her i met the snowboarder boys so you met

00:38:18.340 him in person yeah oh yeah in california yeah yeah they all came down uh like for for coco's

00:38:24.940 birthday i think it was how soon after uh after you meet him do you guys have sex um it was a few

00:38:33.520 months of like talking and like you know facetiming and uh texting but were you guys seeing each other

00:38:41.900 in person we met we met in person person yeah i told the next time you meet in person is that when

00:38:48.840 you have sex yeah it was like um the x games it was that summer the warped tour yeah yeah i actually

00:38:55.240 used to work on warped tour how funny can i have you scoot the mic that way this way yeah okay yeah i

00:39:00.160 used to work on warped tour um but yeah they came out for uh x games and uh yeah so and we'd been

00:39:07.720 talking like steady a couple weeks prior to that when you first met him how long had you been uh

00:39:13.940 talking or how long were you guys talking two weeks two solid weeks of like back and forth uh texting

00:39:20.920 he you know planning he was coming out here we were going to link up and then you know okay so you

00:39:26.680 you're a virgin you meet this guy and then i mean basically your first date you yeah you did you tell

00:39:35.740 him you were a virgin yeah okay uh and what was his reaction when you told him that or i think he

00:39:42.400 cared yeah okay so wait like did you guys get dinner first or no no it was it was the war yeah well

00:39:49.820 geez my dad is watching and i w dad oh gosh um it was the warp tour it worked for it was the x games

00:39:58.280 kickoff party kickoff yeah so there was like a kickoff party with the athletes and the musicians

00:40:03.280 and stuff and it was that night and i i initiated it i said where are you staying and then we left

00:40:09.580 wait oh so he was competing yeah he wasn't competing because he's a winter uh athlete and this was summer

00:40:16.440 x games but he's like skateboarding yeah he gets invited to all that it's like so you know were you

00:40:21.620 did he invite you there as a date no i was already i i worked in music he was there yeah okay so i was

00:40:28.580 he was there you were there yeah and then um i asked him to leave so you meet up with him and

00:40:35.620 you're at the x games for 15 minutes no we were at the party for a few hours before i was like

00:40:40.580 let's get out of here and you so you go back to the hotel yeah and when you say you ask him to leave

00:40:46.560 or what you are you like excuse me sir do you want to engage in well he knew we had two weeks of

00:40:53.820 talking okay you guys were flirting yeah we knew like yeah you guys were flirting we were about the

00:40:58.200 business you know okay you know we already knew what was good what was gonna go down um so wait

00:41:04.180 were you guys like planning to hook up not planning but like we both it was unspoken that we both knew

00:41:09.440 we liked each other like he liked me i liked him and for the first time ever it was mutual and i've

00:41:14.660 never and then so you guys have sex one time yes and then you don't see him for a year yes

00:41:20.340 something like that god this was so long ago you only had sex one time or was there like a little

00:41:24.640 morning delight or something yeah yeah afternoon delight no i mean it was multi oh my god but okay

00:41:31.980 walk me through it walk okay walk me through it i don't want to expose i'm like no you're doing fine

00:41:37.360 you're doing totally fine it's okay there's like a little party at the x games after party whatever

00:41:42.340 you guys go back to the hotel do you guys do you spend the night yeah or he spends the night i spent

00:41:47.380 the night at his hotel and then do you guys like kick it that the next day or i mean i had my group

00:41:54.920 of friends he had his group of friends and because some of these events are multi-day yeah it was it

00:41:59.820 was like a three-day i think x game so you saw him you saw him every day i didn't see him every day

00:42:04.900 but like was it the first pads crossed first day yeah it was the first day so it was a three-day event

00:42:10.400 yes kickoff party you saw him the first day yeah and then you lose your virginity to him on the first day

00:42:15.300 yeah and then you don't see him for day two or day yeah i kind of avoided him you hold on whoa

00:42:21.160 again again i i didn't want to come across as clingy so when i do and this is this is a problem

00:42:28.200 that i've had in a lot of relationships i just will run the opposite direction i want to lose your

00:42:34.060 virginity at 26 and your instinct is to be like bounce yeah 100 yeah okay i'm out of there

00:42:41.200 therapy yes okay but not for this not for this okay um was he trying to meet up with you i don't

00:42:52.380 think so i can't remember i don't think so i mean i was rolling with my girls he was with his boys i

00:42:57.640 wasn't you know it wasn't um it wasn't anything crazy

00:43:01.000 wait didn't you say you were sure he wasn't hooking up with other girls that whole time though so you

00:43:08.960 don't think you know wherever he was for whichever event that he was you know just finding a girl

00:43:13.440 who's willing to you know go back to his hotel room true maybe um anything is possible but i

00:43:21.140 genuinely believe him is he married now uh yes rip um but um dang okay um was it like kind of freaky

00:43:33.380 um the no talking about the sex yeah because why is this dude like that like what like because you

00:43:43.060 said he might be gay three percent chance i don't know it's just like what's his reason i don't know

00:43:49.660 no i don't know i give that like a 33 chance yeah all right probability 3.33 is he older than you

00:43:56.620 younger by how much oh gosh um i think he was 22 i was 26 i took some milk wow okay don't i have to

00:44:08.560 be a mom cougar over here a little cougar wow this is an interesting it gets better but oh it gets

00:44:17.400 better wait it gets better okay here's what we're gonna do i want to introduce the other people but

00:44:22.460 we'll come back to it keep that's juicy keep going but uh wait hold on i know i'm a very confusing

00:44:32.120 you're saying it gets better yeah like good yeah oh but wait question are you religious

00:44:38.240 i'm i believe in something i just don't know exactly what but when you were 26 when you were

00:44:44.680 younger were you like anticipating waiting until marriage no no or you wanted to i wanted to yeah

00:44:50.820 you but i never hold on yeah you're you're you're an attractive lady living in southern california

00:44:56.700 where there's no shortage of men who will definitely have sex with you at ucla there's

00:45:00.780 no shortage of frat boys at ucla you were in a sorority at ucla yeah you wanted to have sex

00:45:07.020 what is the missing piece here i feel like there's a missing piece i like guys who don't like me or they

00:45:14.280 like me and i don't like them and that's always the way that it's been and for the first time

00:45:19.980 i finally found someone who liked me as much as i liked them and that's literally all it took

00:45:25.500 the olympian super awesome was he famous kind of no i mean but he was attractive and i thought he

00:45:35.380 was attractive but like you know didn't they're like every not everyone likes you know chocolate chip

00:45:41.680 ice cream you know like everyone's sure he likes different things okay yeah you know what i mean

00:45:46.540 like you might this whole panel might find him disgusting but i found him but you said you were

00:45:52.340 like really into him yeah so you yeah you have at up until that point the most intimate moment of

00:46:00.440 your life you lose your virginity to him well i guess we already went over this but your instinct was

00:46:06.540 to not try to see him again yeah well not actively not try to see him again but definitely not be like

00:46:13.660 when are we gonna hang out when are you coming back were you like were you like anxiously hey uh you

00:46:19.300 know uh what are you doing tonight well he lived six hours for that event oh i mean yeah i think

00:46:25.860 you're talking this is like god over 10 years ago but i'm sure i texted with him like what are your

00:46:32.080 plans tonight are you going to this event are you going to that i'm sure we had that kind of

00:46:35.860 communication but no it's hard i don't know i think a rule i think a rule um a guy rule okay

00:46:42.020 you know is if you took a take a woman's virginity at 26 at the x games you have to fuck her at least

00:46:50.660 two or three more times i think that's the rule i think that's the you know that's the rule it's a

00:46:54.800 law probably yeah well i think you got at least have sex with her two three he was um the the priority

00:47:00.180 was fun for him it was always like you know i i have to have fun and maybe i was like not

00:47:07.640 you know i was second on that list so it was like party party party okay well and then yeah yeah i

00:47:14.260 guess you see you know young guy yeah hanging out with his friend partying blowing down yeah

00:47:19.300 yeah so uh okay but then it gets worse or better or i don't know you said there's more i meant just

00:47:27.520 about like life in general but yeah oh yeah but you said there was more with him yeah

00:47:31.780 okay i'm gonna i'm gonna tread lightly on that one just to protect oh what do you mean did

00:47:39.060 just to protect people punch him or something no nothing violent no violence or no absolutely not

00:47:47.040 okay um well i'm gonna um how about you i'm gonna let this chat uh adzils thank you man uh and then

00:47:56.280 we'll get to the next the next why is it so loud adzils donated two hundred dollars yo brian

00:48:04.360 your favorite brit is back had to miss the last steam but saw felicity questioning the stupidity of

00:48:10.640 the muppets on the last panel chair for impressive stuff hashtag free felicity hashtag michael is king

00:48:18.060 yo adzils thank you for the message man really appreciate it thank you thank you um all right

00:48:23.140 what about you uh i'm currently in a relationship and then my longest one was like four or five years

00:48:30.020 kind of on and off uh currently in a relationship for the longest four to five years how long have you

00:48:35.260 been current uh like a year and a half almost all right uh what about you oh that was short

00:48:43.480 i have been with my husband since 2008 all right so that's he's my longest relationship how long have

00:48:53.620 you been together since 2008 oh i thought sorry i thought you meant you were married in no we were

00:48:59.580 married in 2012 together since 2008 so like married for about 13 years i'd say right kids yes four four

00:49:08.380 kids all right any kids from any other men or just no he's no he's the one gotcha uh all right what

00:49:16.100 about you uh well i've been seeing a guy for 15 months now but he doesn't want to call me his

00:49:25.660 girlfriend or anything you know so i'd say i've never had a boyfriend you know where someone

00:49:30.840 wanted to be committed to me maybe i just don't complain enough i'm just like okay and also i don't

00:49:37.440 care if i seem way too into somebody at all because i am i'm pretty desperate man you know at this point

00:49:43.140 i'm 33 but you're a desperate you're a desperate man no i i'm desperate man

00:49:48.460 did anybody else they know yeah i heard it i heard okay um no no i'm not i'm a female that's

00:49:58.280 fine um it would be fine if you were trans too um i was just you caught me off guard there with

00:50:04.240 the man thing um okay so 15 months and what's the longest period of time you've not had a boyfriend i

00:50:09.680 guess huh so what i mean is never but well you've seen guys but none of them have been your boyfriend

00:50:17.440 yes uh i'd say well the longest dry spell i had no no no no period of time seeing a guy

00:50:24.220 this one oh this one is the longest 15 months yeah okay but by far by far besides him but besides that

00:50:32.820 maybe there's a guy who's three months ish less than that three three months is the next longest

00:50:39.560 yeah okay and then after that it goes into one month less territory one night that sort of thing

00:50:46.240 yeah too many of those too too many of those okay yeah um and then so okay this current guy though

00:50:54.320 you've been seeing him for 15 months because when you responded to us on instagram you said

00:50:57.960 you're actually single when you responded i mean i would basically i am because he openly you know

00:51:07.480 is seeking out other girls i mean not even for a girlfriend he just you know likes to i don't know

00:51:17.760 just whoever is willing okay so you're um let me ask some clarifying questions here when you say

00:51:24.240 you've been with him for 15 months do you mean consecutively yes not on again off again okay i

00:51:29.820 count three months here now we've been there no we i mean anytime we do everything together you know

00:51:35.080 like really close friends would you know going out to ea going out doing activities movies things like

00:51:41.000 that and it's just commitment is hard for him for some reason which i don't get and i don't push the

00:51:48.320 issue so you've been seeing him for 15 months uh but do you push the attempt for exclusivity

00:51:57.380 nah uh i i suppose i don't you know i i let him know i'm not loving it you know if i find some

00:52:07.160 evidence he can be pretty sloppy about it one time i found a like a bra underwire i don't wear bras

00:52:13.820 with underwires just little things like that or else he's been watching some dvds you know which

00:52:19.420 is what he did the the night that we met you know he breaks out the dvds do you guys live together

00:52:24.540 no no we live in the same city like 15 minute drive okay um and so did he tell you from the get-go

00:52:35.280 okay so here's my understanding you're not seeing any other guys correct oh no not at all no not even

00:52:40.980 looking 15 months have you been with any other men no i haven't dated any other men no before him

00:52:46.520 i hadn't been with a guy in three years almost so you like physically or anything for three years

00:52:53.240 before yeah this guy okay um and then okay celibate for three years then you meet this guy

00:53:03.640 uh but did he tell you from the get-go that he wasn't going to be loyal to you basically he did

00:53:11.060 yeah i mean pretty much how soon like on the first date the first or second one of those so he told

00:53:17.160 you hey i'm not looking for anything serious yeah he did and you know i was kind of disappointed

00:53:22.400 because like right off the bat he i i mean he clicked with me with what i'm i kind of like in a

00:53:28.800 guy uh just that's really the only caveat with him you know even now it's just you know he's great

00:53:37.540 in every freaking way but this one big big thing yeah you know how often do you see him um i'd say

00:53:45.860 well it can depend on the week especially with um my schedule gets crazy um but it could be two or

00:53:53.280 three times a week but other times it can be like we'll go a week or two without seeing each other but

00:53:57.320 we try to you know anytime we're free and not exhausted from work people have busy lives you

00:54:03.160 have stuff going on he has stuff going on but on average you would say you see him two to three

00:54:07.620 times a week maybe some weeks less yeah and then some weeks more maybe is that fair to say yeah it's

00:54:14.380 as i think it's as often as we would both like to see each other when you guys do hang out are you

00:54:19.700 guys going out on dates or is it just come over to my house you go to his he goes to yours and you

00:54:25.220 guys hook up oh we definitely go out you know if i we just went and saw wicked too i'm gonna give him

00:54:31.940 major props for putting up with that i know that's that's boyfriend material right there who's willing

00:54:37.580 to do that yeah i mean if you're gonna see a the second version of a musical i think maybe we have

00:54:46.580 another beard situation here i don't know um that's that okay that's interesting um do you guys go to

00:54:52.720 the ballet too did you guys uh no that's as you know fruity as it gets for him i don't ask him

00:54:59.720 to do anything much more than that actually i i give i give a pass on like i'll tchaikovsky i'll allow it

00:55:06.800 um right but uh okay so and over time though it seems like you've continued to tell me if i'm wrong

00:55:17.640 here but you've continued to push for a relationship is that correct not pushing i would say i'm not

00:55:24.720 pushy in the least but like it's for me i still have that desire with him you know if he ever okay

00:55:30.280 but you say you find like do you find condoms or anything like that i haven't found a straight oh

00:55:36.060 okay but you found another woman definitely haven't found condoms but you found another woman's

00:55:40.840 underwear is that correct it was a bra underwire and i don't even own a bra that has an underwire

00:55:46.000 but in any case it was so funny you know he finds it on the side of his bed and he shows it to me

00:55:51.480 because he didn't know what the hell it was and he's like what what is this is so weird like this

00:55:55.700 round u-shaped metal thing what could that even be for and i look at i'm like huh and i'm like huh

00:56:00.900 so like you don't you are you gonna just like keep talking to him even though he does that like i guess

00:56:08.440 i'm trying to understand if you're waiting yeah it's just because i mean we're not official and

00:56:13.940 and so he told me you know right off the bat so how much can i dock him for that you're not

00:56:21.440 scared of stds or like stuff like oh yeah oh yeah of course pregnant of course but that'd be

00:56:27.180 my own dumb fault wouldn't it you know what i'm getting into so are you on birth control i am not

00:56:32.740 on birth control okay um should be i know so okay 15 months he uh you're basically in a one directional

00:56:45.320 unidirectional open relationship open on his end closed on yours is that fair to say

00:56:51.060 just yeah as far as hold on question so has he closed it on your end or is it open but you don't

00:57:00.080 fuck other men and i asked him you know just jokingly i'd be like what would you think if i

00:57:06.380 you know got with the guy would not like i'm not talking about an actual person that i know in real

00:57:10.820 life but if we're watching a video i'm like hey he's pretty hot what would you think i if i you know

00:57:14.360 slid into his dms he's like no uh-uh and i'm like wait so you wouldn't be okay with me even just like

00:57:20.200 having a nothing hookup that would led to nothing he's like oh heck no all right so yeah yeah one

00:57:28.120 directional ish it's it's okay it's it's open on his end closed on your end um basically is my

00:57:37.480 understanding yeah and i would say you know in the beginning for the first maybe even the first half so

00:57:43.460 you know seven months or so i just like wasn't looking at dudes whatsoever you know they might

00:57:48.620 as well not exist you know just looking at my phone if i'm walking down the street even though

00:57:52.880 i live in a big college town not that i get with college dudes but i'm just saying there's like a

00:57:57.640 lot of young guys who took some milk um but so there's guys there's plenty of options out there but

00:58:06.880 i'm not i wasn't looking till maybe like now on the second half of this i'm like yeah i'm looking

00:58:12.980 a little bit still haven't done anything you know i haven't gone on a date with another guy let alone

00:58:18.640 more than that so are you can oh did i was just gonna ask where would you rank your self-esteem

00:58:25.440 you know it's higher than you think uh i think my uh self-respect how i treat myself

00:58:34.040 is lower than that so i know but okay so you've never had a boyfriend yeah okay um

00:58:44.740 and uh can you describe the guy you're currently dating

00:58:49.300 like what physically uh looks and oh he's he's very very attractive to me i think he's a real cutie pie

00:58:59.700 wait he's attractive to sorry did you say to you yeah he's attracted or attractive attractive you

00:59:08.260 know he's easy on the eyes in my opinion and you know i usually don't care what's he do for work

00:59:13.720 oh he is oh i don't want to get too specific i guess i'll he's just okay he's an engineer

00:59:19.960 engineer that's yeah does he make good money he does um six figures low of six figures

00:59:26.980 okay uh and then how tall is he uh he's over six tallest guy i've ever you know been with at all

00:59:37.800 you know i i like i love my short kings so as long as they're you know for me it's five foot

00:59:43.900 four is my minimum of him that i don't care at all you know i prefer someone who's like closer to me

00:59:49.480 so i don't go to my tippy toes but i don't mind stepping on my tippy toes for him

00:59:54.340 so he's six foot one six foot two i think it's six one i think it's one six foot one yeah

01:00:00.940 white black latino asian oh he's white and a little bit lebanese but he looks like a white

01:00:07.840 dude dark haired i'm lebanese oh cool yeah gosh you guys are a good looking race huh jeez

01:00:15.260 i appreciate um why do you think it is you've never uh well you find yourself in this current

01:00:21.640 situation but also you've never been able to have a boyfriend have there been men who have been

01:00:25.840 who you uh believed would have wanted a relationship with you but you didn't want a relationship with

01:00:33.000 them there is a couple i know definitely asked me but it's just i when i was younger i cared like i would

01:00:47.180 date kind of ish guys who i wasn't necessarily like super physically attracted to but i liked them

01:00:53.960 i'm like it would be wrong to you know get in a relationship like that if i'm just not that

01:01:00.360 sexually into them even though i would do it with them but i'm just thinking you know after a while

01:01:04.460 you know that's gonna be like you know like uh it might get to i don't know

01:01:11.540 um um i i think honestly it's because i was such a late bloomer i didn't lose my v card until i was

01:01:21.280 20 and so things were just really slow moving after that feel feel like i was just really behind

01:01:28.500 you know from other people okay um uh there's something kind of i we have two women on the panel

01:01:37.940 here who have somewhat similar of a predicament to some degree yeah i know it's predicament um

01:01:43.840 and you know i'd say for me like my standards for dudes i mean as evidenced by what i just told you

01:01:50.540 about the guy that i'm dating my bar is in hell i mean practically i don't ask for much at all i'm

01:01:56.520 not gonna i'm not gonna you know nag you about anything whatsoever just like yeah yeah whatever you

01:02:01.540 want i'll just take it day by day when's the last time you saw this guy like you it was

01:02:07.660 the night yeah night right before i flew out over here okay all right uh i want to ask a question

01:02:15.260 related to this going around the table starting with you would you rather be the king's mistress

01:02:23.660 or the peasant's wife probably the peasant's wife peasant's wife peasant's wife

01:02:30.860 into the mic wait has the mic been shifted nick it looks shifted scoot it that way two inches

01:02:38.080 am i moving don't worry about it go ahead okay uh okay um i don't want okay fine king king's

01:02:46.300 mistress okay i have commitment issues peasant's wife peasant's wife oh my god hell i'll be the

01:02:54.900 peasant side piece okay good one um okay interesting um question for you though has there have you ever

01:03:12.600 had um i mean almost how do i want to frame this uh i mean everybody's rejected people right but um

01:03:26.040 have you ever had any guys who did want a relationship with you but you didn't want

01:03:33.400 anything with them like when we're already casually seeing each other and then they want to

01:03:38.600 step it up um no not necessarily or just someone who has a crush on me not somebody you've i sure i

01:03:46.420 guess i mean if they did i'm i've been completely clueless i've probably missed out on so many guys i

01:03:55.680 tend to be on the shy side and or just clueless as far as that's concerned i don't know i'm not good

01:04:02.220 at reading signals in that way do you want kids um you know i like them um i i wouldn't say i'm

01:04:14.340 closed off from it it's never been something like where i thought oh i want to be a mother i need to

01:04:19.820 be a mother i could be a stepmom i'd be so down to you know be a stepmom even if a couple kids

01:04:25.100 leave a lot in common yo oatmeal uh thank thank you for making the order appreciate it uh send um

01:04:36.220 send send a dm to uh send a dm we'll we'll get you some swag um thank you okay so that's crazy

01:04:44.980 that's crazy y'all crazy man um shit i mean look the reality is when you uh where where's the

01:04:58.620 incentive for a guy to commit because i think look i'm just be honest not all men are going to move

01:05:04.480 like this but i think if you ask most men and i think a lot of men you can ask your boyfriend you

01:05:10.140 could ask a guy you're seeing they might lie to you but just being honest i think the case is

01:05:15.440 you ask most men look if you're dating a great girl but she's fine with you sleeping with other

01:05:21.640 women and she'll stay with you i think most men take that deal and some of y'all enable this kind

01:05:27.580 of behavior though when you agree to that kind of dynamic it's like you can't sit i mean the guy's

01:05:33.100 not cheating on you because he was up front with you right i think it's one thing obviously cheating

01:05:37.800 is wrong but in this case you might object to the you know the unequalness of your arrangement

01:05:43.860 but you agreed to the arrangement in this case i think uh you're not this guy just is essentially uh

01:05:52.660 and look you you're in a consensual dynamic he's been up front but he's just using you for sex

01:06:00.740 i wouldn't say that i don't feel that way at all because i mean

01:06:06.320 dang i don't want to say this when a bunch of people are watching like my co-workers and watch

01:06:10.740 this but um okay i i like doing it too i think i enjoy it as much as he does just not with random

01:06:17.560 people that i don't flip and know look there's there's no dispute that that uh i don't think my

01:06:25.320 argument here is that women dislike having sex or don't enjoy having sex i think sex is a mutual

01:06:32.920 uh mutually beneficial enjoyable thing in fact i frequently argue that when it comes to sex actually

01:06:39.940 women well i guess it depends on the woman y'all be having multiple orgasms and shit like y'all

01:06:46.180 sex is better for you guys we're doing all the work too what the fuck um so i don't know whatever so

01:06:52.080 uh i kind of feel like you're a placeholder for him that's not what he said you know recently he's

01:07:01.300 just saying how i'm such a unicorn you know i'm perfect and stuff you know the only thing for him

01:07:06.220 is like we he just mentioned kids you know he wants kids for sure with you he would he says he would

01:07:15.900 i'm like uh i think we're a couple you know we got a couple more steps maybe are you religious

01:07:20.200 i don't follow a religion but uh yeah yeah he goes to church and even bible study and stuff

01:07:27.200 oh no wait wait wait wait wait no no i when i said i'm not religious i believe in god it's just i

01:07:33.520 haven't like picked a book it's not that we're talking about the other thing yeah uh so he's christian

01:07:38.480 does he go to a non-denominational church i don't even know which one it is wait you've been dating

01:07:43.620 guy for 15 months and he goes to church all the time and you don't know he reads the bible man that's

01:07:48.040 all i know is he protestant catholic not not one of those oh jehovah's witness oh gosh no no no no i

01:07:56.960 could uh maybe just i don't know some kind of christian i don't think an orthodox guy is

01:08:02.260 i also don't think so um okay that's interesting um

01:08:07.840 shit i'm trying to process everything i'm i'm really trying to wrap my head around you said

01:08:15.260 he's is he conservative too yes yes oh very much so okay and i am too but not as much as he is i mean

01:08:23.840 goodness yeah does he make you public whenever he's with are you a secret or are you somebody that i

01:08:30.740 mean they want to see wicked side in the dark in a theater that's something you oh oh he's kind of

01:08:36.800 claiming her a little bit well i mean no he go out to restaurants and stuff like like i said no i

01:08:42.520 mean his mom knows about me his best i've spent thanksgiving with him and his best friend um and

01:08:49.120 their wife and their kid so i mean no it's okay so he's not why won't he commit to you

01:08:55.920 because he because of kids because she doesn't oh no no no he didn't even ask that till maybe

01:09:01.900 two months ago i think he was kind of afraid to even know the answer so i i mean i don't think he

01:09:08.400 could use that as an excuse even because he didn't know what was the reason he gave you for not wanting

01:09:12.860 a relationship um he told me and this is the only time i really asked for an answer for that reason

01:09:22.660 is is because the he said the next girl that he calls his girlfriend officially that's going to

01:09:29.500 be the chick he's going to marry oh there you go wait he told you that placeholder wait wait sorry

01:09:35.240 repeat that one more time he told her without telling her she's not the one yeah that's not

01:09:40.340 how i took it at all i took it as um okay so he's not ready to call someone his girlfriend yet

01:09:48.400 because when he finally does that uh you know well first of all when he calls this girl his girlfriend

01:09:53.700 uh he's not gonna he's gonna be like not sleeping with other chicks and but he's not ready to not

01:09:59.440 be sleeping with other chicks you know what i'm saying so tell him what you like okay the next the

01:10:05.500 next chick the next woman that i call my girlfriend you know is going to be the woman that i'm going to

01:10:12.460 marry keyword next right yes meaning not you that's not how i took it i feel like he no i feel

01:10:20.140 like he was saying that he when he calls me when he starts calling me his girlfriend that you know

01:10:26.840 that's it here i'll break it down super simple okay so if i was uh let's let's say i'm married or

01:10:33.320 whatever and i tell my wife the next woman i have sex with would that mean her yes no no no i mean

01:10:41.900 just english language or whatever next next would imply like secondary somebody else after he's not

01:10:48.380 talking i don't think he's talking about you he he was i could i don't care that much jeez i don't

01:10:53.840 care if we were forever or like i after a year and a half men usually know yeah before it doesn't

01:11:01.660 even take a year before it takes yeah like after a couple months they know and that's why i was saying

01:11:06.360 like me saying that you're kind of a placeholder it's not even like to be an insult or anything it's

01:11:10.980 just like the reality i think of your situation that i i don't think you're fully grasping like

01:11:16.880 i don't want to use the word delusional but it's like a little bit you know i'm saying and it's okay

01:11:22.220 it's okay delusion is way nicer than reality but i'm not even trying to get him to be my boyfriend

01:11:27.720 so it's not like i'm trying to hold on to some hope that doesn't exist i don't care and that's

01:11:34.140 that's actually sad i think that's worse i mean for one uh i don't i don't know i'm i'm not i don't

01:11:42.080 feel like i'm emotionally invested in him in that way because just because then why are you meeting

01:11:47.100 his family yeah and why are you why are you being faithful mom and he just you just said that she

01:11:52.300 he's told her no no no no his his best friend and his wife yeah yeah they met at work like uh his

01:12:01.640 best friend so what is your goal with him then what what is the end goal there is no end goal

01:12:06.200 so she's not so you're not a placeholder i don't know i haven't decided i haven't decided i don't

01:12:13.600 think that far ahead i mean not to me nothing is that serious well you're dating this man who is

01:12:21.680 seeing other women and has told you when i find my next girlfriend that's going to be my wife

01:12:27.340 no well no more more like i would die if someone said that to me i would cry once he's he's saying

01:12:34.120 once he commits to whatever chick whether it's me or someone else then that's that's it it's gonna

01:12:41.220 be for real for real girlfriend so you're just hoping that it's you in this lineup no i don't care

01:12:47.880 i'm not saying it could be it couldn't be i get you i i understand where you're coming from okay i

01:12:53.800 someone does yeah i guess what i'm trying to understand is how like you're being monogamous

01:13:01.040 to him like you're being faithful to him but like but yeah you're not but yet you're not like

01:13:07.780 invested emotionally i guess it's just like not necessarily aligning logically right okay so i i

01:13:15.580 okay i have been monogamous to him but it's not like something i'm even it's just kind of happened

01:13:21.580 that i haven't seen anybody or met anybody that i want to sleep with or been interested in that way

01:13:26.380 if i did then that'd be a different story it just hasn't happened you know so so if you're not the

01:13:32.380 next girlfriend then what are you going to do after that i'd be looking a little harder more closely

01:13:38.560 looking for what i don't know just other dudes for what to start to start dating for what because i

01:13:46.000 mean i want to find a husband well no i don't think you want to find a husband okay because then

01:13:52.300 you would have an end game you're saying if i'm not the next no that is the end game but i i don't

01:13:57.160 know who it's going to be with or when it's going to be or how that's going to start out someone

01:14:02.360 sometime i'm not that worried about it i'm not i mean it'll happen when it's meant to be it'll be

01:14:07.280 the right person so it sounds like you really don't want to get married that's literally not what i

01:14:13.360 said i just said i want to get married you don't think that whenever it happens i feel like there's

01:14:18.120 like some backtracking going on here because you said that you were monogamous to him and he was like

01:14:24.120 your dream guy but that it was open on his no i didn't say he is my dream guy he's just like

01:14:29.940 like the perfect guy in general like of what i like but you don't want to marry him yeah and you

01:14:36.580 like men who sleep with other women and make you be faithful yeah and i said that was that one

01:14:43.940 issue that one big caveat that really sucks that's huge especially like well that's why i'm not that

01:14:50.200 that you know messed up about him not calling me you know his girlfriend i'm just taking it day by day

01:14:57.420 i mean it's it's not that serious it could i hope it is you know not too long she doesn't want to find

01:15:03.520 a husband you said you want to get married eventually no i don't whatever she says she

01:15:08.200 knows me best i'm i know what you've said and you you don't want to get married and i think i'm not

01:15:13.820 trying to be rude but the word she used delulu delusional with whatever she said and i'm not and

01:15:18.840 she wasn't trying to label you i think perhaps because so because i'm into those waters because i

01:15:24.820 i don't i'm not sure if i want to get married to this first guy that i'm kind of like actually

01:15:28.760 dating in my life again i'm 33 you said you've been with him for 15 months yeah you said that

01:15:33.980 if he doesn't pick you as the next girl that he said he would want to marry you would just move on

01:15:36.840 and do this again i don't care but no that's what you said right well like okay if someone has it has

01:15:42.360 a goal they're usually working their way to achieve it so there's no point in like dicking around with

01:15:48.440 some guy for a year and a half two years whatever if you don't plan on marrying him if that's your goal

01:15:54.600 you know like i feel like it to us it sounds like so i've got to be on it all the time no you don't

01:16:00.100 i don't know i'm like i'm open to it i mean of course i want to get married and i'm open to some

01:16:07.780 guy you know walking into my life it just hasn't happened in the past 15 months it's just this one

01:16:13.640 guy that i'm seeing that's what i'm doing no we're not saying you have to do that we're saying

01:16:18.100 your logic you're saying you want to get married eventually but you're just like

01:16:21.820 fucking around with this guy you're not taking him seriously but you want to get a husband

01:16:26.480 eventually yeah i think that you guys are kind of each other's placeholder because y'all are bored

01:16:31.020 that's fine yeah but that i'm not trying to be like hopeful but that could it could eventually turn

01:16:38.060 into you guys falling in love i mean when people are right like back in the day when you used to like

01:16:43.280 match make like your parents would set you up with like a husband or whatever you might not love

01:16:48.220 them you might despise them but then after years and years of marriage and children you end up loving

01:16:53.320 that person so you might technically be a placeholder and in fact both of you guys are

01:16:57.920 placeholders in each other's lives right now but that doesn't mean that it can't grow into something

01:17:02.540 deeper and more serious that doesn't that's not what we're really saying i think it's just like

01:17:07.600 i don't care what she does in her life she could be single forever and or she could get married right

01:17:11.120 now i don't care it's just like her goal like what she's saying she wants to achieve

01:17:14.880 her actions currently are not aligning yeah that's what that's essentially what i've been

01:17:18.800 trying to say too it's like your actions and then the things that you kind of say

01:17:23.380 they crisscross a lot because she didn't even say what you said i'm hoping that i will win him over

01:17:29.960 over time he will fall in love with me later on she didn't say that she has no goals she has no plan

01:17:34.920 she's just what if he dumps me he dumps me with him i don't know when you're 37 and then when you're

01:17:40.680 40 and then you're 41 and then when you're 52 and then what then what i mean what is your goal

01:17:44.860 that's what i'm saying maybe i'll get married late in life i don't know but how do you think marriage

01:17:49.140 happens you think you just get married you find a guy then you pick him don't men decide marriage

01:17:53.900 yes yeah so again i don't want to harp on you but i don't know i'm just you know i'm just doing it

01:18:03.540 with basically my best friend right now and i wish that he would have been my boyfriend early on but

01:18:08.040 then i you know it's i don't know if that's gonna happen yeah but see that's where i'm saying like

01:18:12.320 with the things you say versus your it's just very interesting because on one side you're like i don't

01:18:17.180 really care if me and him become super serious but then you say stuff like but i wish we would have

01:18:23.160 became like i wish he was my boyfriend or and you and you actually know early on yeah but and you

01:18:30.000 actually said that you if he was down to be your boyfriend and committed now you would accept it you

01:18:35.840 you said that did i say that yeah i think the main point everyone's trying to get across is that

01:18:43.080 we think that you deserve better you know because i i personally wouldn't want to be in that situation

01:18:47.700 i don't think anyone else would be so we're trying to just make it in a situation where we think you

01:18:52.300 deserve better we think you can find better yes that's literally the point when it comes to dating

01:18:55.920 you're acting like an npc okay maybe i am that yeah i accept it i don't know you gotta you want

01:19:04.960 more for yourself maybe i know i do i want to be married someday i'll i'm gonna feel like i've

01:19:11.420 completely wasted my life if i'm not married someday i'm just not i'm not i don't have a timeline

01:19:17.740 on that whatsoever timeline that's fine all right i don't know are you happy we're gonna understand

01:19:29.380 each other yeah in life yes okay then just in general in life i feel like i could be happier

01:19:35.300 though do you think like if you like put yourself out they're more like go to like different events

01:19:40.080 and yeah that's the thing that i don't do and she said just closed off just like i got i've been

01:19:46.500 i'm busy i keep myself busy with work i like to sleep a lot i you know i definitely should be

01:19:53.900 going out and doing stuff just haven't pulled the trigger on that yet you know i definitely think

01:19:58.120 he's taking advantage of you for sure like i said i like doing it so but it has nothing it's not a

01:20:04.660 beneficial thing it's not even about like the sex it's just like the fact that you are so complacent

01:20:10.480 with his behavior and he doesn't feel any sort of guilt is a huge representation of

01:20:16.400 his like sense of character and even how faithful and even how faithful he is to christ because

01:20:22.800 oh yeah like a man a man who believes in god is very different than a man who fears god and he does

01:20:30.540 not fear god i completely agree with you on that like he contradicts himself even more than i do

01:20:37.000 contradicts myself i i mean like he does he goes to freaking bible study and he can't keep it in his

01:20:43.080 pants even isn't that pretty freaking basic has he taken you to bible study with him i haven't asked

01:20:48.480 to go i mean if i did he he would it's just he's waiting for you to lead him on that i don't know

01:20:56.160 i haven't talked to him about you know his religion and things well it sounds like he's not really

01:21:03.240 taking it seriously i mean does it sound like i am not really no but it's like it sounds like

01:21:10.620 you're getting used we're so nearly on the same page so wait one thing let's try not to talk over

01:21:16.380 each other because it's bad for the audio um but it sounds like you're being used a bit and i think

01:21:21.400 that's the point that we're trying to get across even if you don't care and you doesn't care that's

01:21:24.460 just i guess what we're all trying to say and we think you deserve better yeah like we're trying

01:21:29.320 to get you to see like he's he's what he's doing is just so not okay and you accepting it

01:21:34.980 you're so not okay that's the part that's not okay yeah i'll think about it ladies i'll think about

01:21:40.420 it some that's a start right well i have a question for you guys name a continent starting with you

01:21:50.820 africa okay europe antarctica america which one north south well you're not supposed to say one

01:21:59.680 huh next yeah speaking to the night into the mic please antarctica well right antarctica was already

01:22:05.700 said who said that me sorry there's a couple more the americas okay well you have to pick one

01:22:13.820 north america okay oh gosh south america okay next australia okay next there's one did anyone say

01:22:22.020 asia yet no asia okay okay name three countries starting with you oh gosh um italy ireland

01:22:29.120 france okay no repeating by the way montenegro north macedonia moldova okay chad chile and haiti

01:22:37.560 u.s um oh my god it's so crazy i know that i know that but being put on the spot is so crazy

01:22:47.020 um three countries brazil the u.s new zealand okay oh my gosh oh man it's so crazy like you know it

01:22:57.380 yeah and i don't i just don't think about it on a consistent basis but okay colombia um

01:23:04.360 uh portugal um turkey okay questionable questionable those are countries okay next uh nigeria algeria

01:23:22.200 morocco okay um japan uh let's see someone say paraguay i think very very random one

01:23:34.340 thing i'm gonna have to be last there's so many okay uh canada okay um what's 34 plus 66

01:23:44.820 oh come on everybody are going in order 100 one at a time it's 100 i'm not good at math at all like

01:23:54.400 100 really shut up what the fuck oh she said it she said it yeah you're supposed to go in order

01:24:06.000 well she did hear it because she repeated it oh yeah um you gotta you gotta make it clear one

01:24:11.840 well i said that i said that no you gotta be like you you you i think it was understood i think she

01:24:18.320 just said it yeah let's start it i'll try better harder okay um you got her in trouble yeah yeah

01:24:28.800 you got me in trouble can you pick different numbers two different numbers okay no i'm gonna

01:24:35.760 find brian where's my questions you want me to just do these ones what is the minimum yearly income

01:24:45.440 what is the yearly minimum income for your husband or you'd want to be for your husband

01:24:49.920 would want to be for my husband yeah um like 100k okay 45 000 okay 100k i don't care at all 10k

01:25:06.560 yeah five i mean employed you know i'm employed yeah so you can make 1k

01:25:14.480 okay sure okay probably like 80 to 100 average okay you said minimum right minimum yes about 100

01:25:25.600 okay next um employed but i'm just thinking even if it's minimum wage for whatever state we live in

01:25:34.240 that's fine so it's like 60k here i think are you from california uh i live in oklahoma oh i don't

01:25:43.280 know it's it's not their minimum wage actually yeah it's like seven seven yeah not the actual

01:25:48.320 minimum wage everybody pretty much everybody gets paid 15 now though you know even at mcdonald's so

01:25:53.120 that that 15 hour whatever that equates to okay how tall are you and what is the minimum height of

01:25:58.960 a man you would date five four and probably minimum height i mean i've dated shorter but probably five

01:26:06.320 eight now okay i'm five three and five nine would be my minimum okay i'm five five five eight would be

01:26:13.840 my minimum five five and six foot is my minimum okay five three i'm okay with like five ten and up at

01:26:24.240 least okay next i'm six foot and i'm married and have a husband so i don't even know how to answer this

01:26:31.120 question how tall yeah how tall is your husband like six one okay so you guys are like the same

01:26:38.080 in height almost okay next uh i'm five two and i mean the shortest guy i've been with was five four

01:26:45.120 and i mean that's yeah to the fine height for me so okay uh this this is like looks different um

01:26:54.960 would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike a bear okay i'll come

01:27:02.160 back to you a man a man a bear a man i struggle with this hypothetical and it's not for the reasons

01:27:12.640 that you think i i can do i could do any hypothetical this one's just really hard for me to get an answer

01:27:17.920 so i can i pass or no just say it i i don't know close your eyes and say it and i'm not scared of men

01:27:24.400 and i'm i don't i how are you gonna fight a bear i would love the bear i would watch it i would just

01:27:30.240 let's get her answer yes okay a man okay so you you you said bear i didn't really say bear i i you

01:27:39.360 said you didn't say man though you didn't say man so i just i just need more information when it comes

01:27:47.040 to this it's like totally random you're on a hike think of like a like random hike trail okay

01:27:53.840 i'm thinking time when you typically go hiking okay and you see would you rather see a man

01:27:59.680 crossing your path or a baby oh a man absolutely right yeah yeah so you guys understood the

01:28:05.280 hypothetical right and you still pick bear so why why do you pick bear i mean i've seen a lot of stuff

01:28:10.960 like online like attacks on like women and stuff and it honestly like bear attacks not bear attacks

01:28:16.480 like attacks like man and woman like you know that stuff and it's like it's scary it's disturbing and

01:28:23.280 stuff and it's like i don't know the hypothetical of like a man or a bear i feel like i don't know just

01:28:29.840 i personally would rather do the bear i don't i you never know what a man can do you know well you

01:28:35.120 know what a bear can do for sure i know what a bear can do i don't know what a man can do i think

01:28:38.480 that's the scary part you don't you never know what a man can do but you know what a bear can do

01:28:41.840 well i mean we pass men on the street every day and it's like imagine one of those is who you're

01:28:47.040 passing by it's like he's not gonna do anything because they don't do anything when you pass by

01:28:52.320 them typically yeah but if you're alone like on a hike have you been on a hike before i've been on

01:28:58.880 a hike okay did you pass anyone yeah like men yeah but if i were like alone on a hike in like

01:29:05.040 the dark then that's not the dark yeah and what and it's like she painted the picture yeah and then

01:29:10.880 one of the the last time i was on here the girls were like well what if i was hiking at 3 a.m and

01:29:15.840 in my head i'm not gonna do that it's like if you're hiking at 3 a.m you're kind of part of the

01:29:20.720 problem at that point like i don't want to hike when it's dark i want to hike when like the sun is out

01:29:26.240 and i can see the the sun shining through the trees and it's beautiful like

01:29:30.400 dark you know what i'm saying yeah i mean i mean in my hometown there was an incident where like a

01:29:37.040 girl was on a hike and she did get attacked by a guy so i think that's why i personally picked the

01:29:41.360 bear because it's like that's like something that really close happened to me so you know i feel like

01:29:47.600 those did we have an explanation for why she why do you pick there because i love animals oh i love men

01:29:54.720 too but i like really love animals do you think a bear would love you okay how about that what if

01:29:59.680 we change it like saber-toothed tiger or man oh that would be so cool um so die or die or man are we

01:30:06.160 getting attacked by the animal or is it just passing by can we watch it there are certain animals that

01:30:11.200 are more aggressive than others i think bears can leave you alone but also they would attack you

01:30:17.360 i mean what what if we just change it to polar bear which are insanely aggressive i would be very

01:30:24.320 still and then i'd watch it and i think that would probably be the coolest experience of my life and

01:30:29.760 getting i obviously wouldn't want to be attacked by it so i would choose a man if the attack was

01:30:35.120 imminent but well no so in this in the scenario it's whole in the same way that you don't know what

01:30:40.240 the man will do you don't know what the bear will do so it's possible the bear does nothing it's

01:30:44.480 possible the man does nothing it's possible the man does something it's possible the bear

01:30:47.520 does i would take my chances with a bear because if not it's the coolest experience yeah so if not

01:30:53.280 it's the coolest experience of my life watching the bear and if not i got you've been to the x games

01:30:57.520 and the warp tour what the fuck seeing a bear is going to be i love animals i don't know i love animals

01:31:03.600 so i'd love to i'd love to what about if it was in an elevator then a man okay so what changes um

01:31:11.520 my ability to escape i can't outrun a bear i know that but why do you think you need to escape do

01:31:16.240 you think the man's gonna hurt you no not at all so so then why are you picking the bear because i

01:31:21.680 can outrun a man i can't outrun okay but why do you think you need to outrun him to begin with

01:31:26.000 if i needed to i could which is why if if i were being attacked by a bear i could not outrun it so i

01:31:35.040 would die but if i were being attacked by a man i have i more than likely would so you think there's a

01:31:40.160 chance the man will attack you no i think you and brian should race nice like a foot race yeah

01:31:48.960 you said you you could outrun a man i want to see we have a message here from metro matt chair for

01:31:53.280 tell your ex danny i love his snowboarding stuff danny i that's not his name but um okay i do know

01:32:00.960 they're trying they're trying they're trying to find i guess i don't know yeah yeah that's funny

01:32:06.800 awkward uh uh okay um so okay i i'm not going to linger too long on this bear thing but just really

01:32:14.960 quick um i guess at least for you is there a component of well yes both the man and the bear

01:32:22.480 could kill me and even if it is the case that the bear there's a higher probability that a i guess on a

01:32:27.760 per capita basis uh that the bear is more likely to kill me than a man the man if he was malevolent

01:32:35.520 would like torture me rape me etc is that kind of part of the calculus yeah is and i don't know if

01:32:40.800 you're just trolling with that i like bears or whatever no i if anyone who's who knows me knows

01:32:44.960 i've i'm a huge animal lover like i really love animals a lot more than i do people to the mic um

01:32:53.040 well i get i i also enjoy animals but i don't do so at my own peril so in this case

01:33:03.920 i'm a bit confused uh there are environments in which you can encounter animals

01:33:09.680 not in the wild in this case you opt to in the wild encounter a wild bear

01:33:15.920 bear over like some dude who's also on the hike i didn't know it was going to be this deep but

01:33:22.320 okay then i would definitely choose a man then i would a bear but i think that would be such a cool

01:33:27.840 experience okay um well i guess on the bear thing really quick um so you to be clear though your answer

01:33:36.720 is definitively bear yeah okay um if i reframe the question a little bit and can i ask you

01:33:44.400 you've heard anecdotes i think you mentioned there was a story in your hometown where a woman was

01:33:50.160 assaulted or something right a terrible thing right absolutely terrible thing um and there's no dispute

01:33:56.480 or doubt that these things absolutely happen to women they happen all the time um and it's a terrible

01:34:01.920 thing um and then you might also say well men you know we don't know much about bear well we know some

01:34:10.720 about bears but you would say that well there's crime statistics as it relates to you know men

01:34:16.640 perpetrate this crime at this frequency is that fair to say yeah okay um do you think or would you

01:34:25.120 have issue then like if somebody were to change it uh and again this isn't just to be clear

01:34:32.000 throwing out this is a hypothetical to test the logic uh this isn't my position i feel like it's fair

01:34:38.240 i give that uh that uh what's the term for it whatever it doesn't matter uh if we were to change the

01:34:46.560 scenario and we were to change it to uh we were to ask a white person would you rather come across

01:34:53.520 a bear or a black person and the person picks bear instead of the black person would you think that

01:35:03.440 that sort of response would be indicative of some racist sentiment i mean i feel like there's always

01:35:10.560 like those like rooted things and stuff it's like they're gonna pick something because they don't want

01:35:15.600 to like come off as like offensive or anything even though that's not their like no but they they

01:35:20.960 they pick the bear yeah over the black person they'd say oh oh oh oh i see what you mean yeah

01:35:26.160 they they're like no no no oh i don't want to be i i don't want to come across somebody on a high on a

01:35:32.160 hike i pick the bear would if you heard that answer given would you jump to well that sounds kind of

01:35:41.360 racist i feel like there's like a little like tweak in like everyone's brain or at least majority of

01:35:47.680 people's brain that would like be like hmm like why why'd they why'd they pick the bear why would

01:35:51.840 they pick the bear exactly but like they didn't have it probably didn't i've i personally wouldn't

01:35:58.720 want it to come across that way obviously but i feel like those systemic racisms and stuff like

01:36:03.840 that were like decades ago and like still exist to this day and you know well yeah i don't there's

01:36:09.680 no dispute that racism still exists but would you think not saying you would pick that i'm saying

01:36:15.680 say there's another person at this table and i asked that question and they answered

01:36:20.000 like i you may very well be like no of course i'd rather come across a black person yeah um but if

01:36:25.600 somebody else answered bear over coming across a black person would you think that's a bit problematic

01:36:35.120 sorry i'm thinking

01:36:35.920 i mean i wouldn't say it's problematic i don't think so i mean like i'm looking at it at the same

01:36:45.360 rate you know a man versus like like a white man versus like a black man i feel like it's he didn't

01:36:50.960 say man he's a black person black person okay then yeah so the i would think of it a little bit

01:36:56.800 differently right the reason that the the it's not that it's a man like in this scenario it could be

01:37:02.400 just a black person yeah a black woman or a black man and it's not the fact that it could there's a

01:37:09.280 50 chance it could be a black man the determination is not on gender the determination is on uh race

01:37:16.800 so under this circumstance would you be like a little bit racist you know i don't i don't i mean like

01:37:26.880 i'm not in the person's like head so like i'm not in time like i don't want to jump to conclusions

01:37:31.920 but like okay you know what i mean i don't know i don't want to sure yeah

01:37:37.920 what if you were to change this scenario let's say it's uh you're talking to one of your girlfriends

01:37:45.200 and she maybe do you have roommates or housemates i have housemates yeah and like your girlfriend

01:37:50.160 she just gets home and she's like oh yeah i was out and it was it's dark it's dark yeah she's like

01:37:56.080 you know i was i was walking home and there were like these three guys not race just three men

01:38:03.520 and i just felt a bit uncomfortable so i crossed the street yeah and nothing happened but i i crossed

01:38:08.320 the street and i'm here now everything's fine and you'd be like oh totally okay yeah fine right now if

01:38:14.720 she relayed that back to you a bit differently and she said well i saw three black people and then i

01:38:19.280 crossed the street would you be like whoa i'd be a little iffy i'd be like a little interesting okay

01:38:23.040 yeah it's interesting um so with this bear thing i think uh by the way i think uh the answer in any

01:38:30.320 at least my take the answer in any scenario should be uh you should pick the man you should pick the

01:38:34.880 black person uh instead of the bear but um because like for example if if it for the bear one if you were

01:38:42.960 like if they pick the bear over a black person i feel like that might be a bit racist and the same

01:38:49.760 reasons you gave for why you pick the bear over the black person what is stopping like a white

01:38:54.960 racist person from saying well i had one or two bad experiences with a black person and here here's

01:39:00.560 some crime statistics that show that there are certain crimes that are committed more by certain

01:39:05.360 races right and then they now use that as justification for like broad for their racism

01:39:13.040 like it's a hard topic to go by you know like sure sure uh food for thought though yeah food for

01:39:20.720 thought i guess the point we're trying to get at is and this this goes beyond just the bear scenario

01:39:27.040 there does seem to be certain statements that are deemed acceptable if they're directed in

01:39:34.240 well it goes two ways in the direction of men and if they're in the direction of white people

01:39:40.080 uh but i'll i'll keep it strictly relating to men so women will say things like men are trash

01:39:48.400 but then if the same thing if you were to say it about well women for example if you were to say

01:39:52.240 women are trash this would come across as like a really misogynistic very sexist thing to say

01:39:57.840 and but then i think the real enlightening part if we change if if there's any ever a situation where

01:40:04.720 we say men are x or something about men or even something about well let's just keep it with men

01:40:11.760 and then you take men out of the statement and then you implement you put in black person or latino or

01:40:20.560 woman and it becomes racist or it becomes sexist then you start have to wonder well was the original

01:40:27.840 statement then sexist towards men but i think there's a lot of hand waving and social acceptance

01:40:34.800 of uh misandry so misandry the hate it's kind of the counterpart of misogyny misogyny prejudice or

01:40:41.040 hatred of women misandry prejudice or hatred of men uh so the bear thing kind of brings this to light

01:40:48.640 in the sense that we can make these determinations we can say these things about men creating a sort of

01:40:55.280 social stigma or an acceptance of uh anti-male rhetoric that really doesn't exist in the opposite

01:41:01.920 direction so yeah and that's kind of what everything he said is what i was thinking when you use that

01:41:08.480 example and like there's actually someone i know who does the similar thing well she'll use one example

01:41:14.880 to create a whole umbrella and i think if you start diving into the core you start realizing that

01:41:20.400 like just because one person has one experience that doesn't mean it's like the grand idea yeah

01:41:26.080 i think that's fair to say for sure okay um and like because i think so i think uh there's no doubt

01:41:35.680 that women do have bad experiences with men i'm not trying to downplay that at all uh it should

01:41:40.800 absolutely be acknowledged however i think something that i see happening a lot online but also in person is

01:41:47.760 uh again there's no doubt women do have these bad experiences with men but women will say things

01:41:54.800 men are terrible men are trash uh men are we've had women come on the show men are apex predators men are xyz

01:42:05.520 or it they're arguing to justify their anti-male rhetoric their misandry their sexism whatever

01:42:13.040 and they'll say well hold on it's justified because i had a bad experience or well not i but

01:42:22.480 the woman in question will say i had a bad experience with a man maybe a really bad experience with a man

01:42:28.880 or even multiple men and then well men commit these crimes more often than women do

01:42:35.200 and they might they may not even be wrong right there there is a disproportionality as it relates to

01:42:42.000 certain crimes men do commit certain crimes more than women although i would say it's a very small

01:42:46.480 proportion of men but the trouble you get yourself in with this kind of rhetoric not you specifically

01:42:52.240 uh you seem quite um uh you don't seem like super toxic or anything but there is a lot of talk there

01:42:59.120 is a lot of like anti-male toxicity out there the trouble you then get yourself in is if you're if

01:43:05.600 your justification for uh this viewpoint towards men is i've had bad experience and here's crime

01:43:11.840 statistics there's nothing preventing like white nationalists or like white people who are racist

01:43:18.720 to say well i had a bad experience with a black person now my racism is justified which i think

01:43:24.000 is wrong or uh here's this crime statistic black people uh do this crime more often than white people

01:43:32.240 or whatever or you know what you could also do in other ways like if you're an asian person white

01:43:37.280 people commit this crime more than asian people uh i'm now going to be and i had a bad experience

01:43:41.600 of the white person i'm going to be uh anti-white so that's just the thing i think people should look

01:43:48.000 out for uh because i think it is a bit of a blind spot because i think there's not really any much pushback

01:43:55.680 uh when when uh we're talking about men or white people yeah and i've even heard women say like

01:44:04.640 especially on social media that the world would be a better place without men when men are really one

01:44:10.000 of the biggest foundations of just the existence like of society essentially so and but you don't

01:44:17.280 you don't hear people saying like if there was no bears you know what i'm saying it's always if there

01:44:21.360 was no men the world would be a better place but you know it just woke mind virus yeah it's such a

01:44:28.560 ridiculous thing to say what do you think though about like well i mean uh she brought up an

01:44:35.280 interesting one do you think for example um uh do you think the world would be a better place without

01:44:41.680 men no i don't really think so i feel like if if you could snap your finger and like all men had to

01:44:49.920 go on some island or something and women could just i don't know free for all had their own society

01:44:55.920 would you do it no like okay not not all men are bad obviously like there's definitely like

01:45:01.760 majority of men are good just so you would still take the bear you said majority of men are good

01:45:06.960 i know but after like what he explained and stuff obviously like i didn't think of it that way first

01:45:11.360 you know so that's awesome yeah different open mind open mind yeah growth i love that yeah i mean

01:45:16.400 changed her mind maybe not entirely but like i definitely like see his point of view yeah so would you

01:45:23.360 still do the bear are you a little bit more open to having a man go by you at this point

01:45:29.680 that's a good question um not

01:45:36.080 close your eyes and say it right just think and visualize and you'll get it well like

01:45:42.080 realistically speaking probably a man but i understand exactly what you're saying yeah

01:45:46.640 you're not crazy but like when he broke it down most men are good men and if you randomly

01:45:53.680 came upon a man in the forest you're not going to think he's going to harm you yeah and honestly i'd

01:45:59.040 like to think that most men would probably come to aid if necessary especially like you have to think

01:46:05.520 again when it comes to even a biological aspect like men are built stronger to protect there's a reason for

01:46:12.160 that so just take that into consideration as well so and i don't know if you have brothers or anything

01:46:17.840 like that but imagine if like women thought that way about your brother you know so well said thank

01:46:24.240 you although to brian's question if i was walking down the street and i saw a gang of men white black

01:46:31.440 Asian i would go the other way yes yes regardless of race and that's just because they might cat call

01:46:38.560 or even like like there's certain things that as a woman i i understand like especially if you're built

01:46:43.760 a certain way i don't really want to walk by a group of men anyway because i they might look i just if i

01:46:49.520 can have any sense of like control in that way but do i think that they're gonna gang up on me and

01:46:56.080 like put me in an alley no yeah sometimes you just like never know what they might do so it

01:47:01.120 like i guess you are like risking that chance and you know i uh i'm gonna move it on but uh

01:47:07.840 question going around the table uh what you said you're uh pre-law or wait pre-law so you want to be

01:47:13.920 a lawyer yeah well not i would preferably not like a defense attorney or anything i kind of want to be a

01:47:19.040 prosecutor you want to be a prosecutor yeah you want to do criminal law but on the prosecution side yes

01:47:24.640 uh question for you would you give up your career college for the perfect man no perfect man no so he

01:47:34.320 could he could make uh he could be a billionaire and like all the traits that you would look for

01:47:43.760 or you get him you give it up nope a billionaire no i mean i've always been i've been raised like

01:47:53.520 very independently my mom always like constantly reminded me like be independent like have your own

01:47:59.040 like savings account have your own 401k stuff like that and i i mean like i'm in college right now i

01:48:03.680 wouldn't i worked hard to get here you know i did my college apps and stuff i did like all this

01:48:08.960 academics and stuff you're junior i'm a sophomore sophomore yeah and uh huh you've already declared

01:48:16.480 a major are you are your uh parents still together yeah they're still together still together okay um

01:48:22.240 does your uh mom work does she have a job yeah she works okay your dad too yep okay all right um

01:48:30.320 not even for the perfect man but uh question have you been you said you've been single for two years

01:48:35.040 have you been dating at all uh in the past two years yeah like any situationships or anything like

01:48:40.720 that like a few here and there but what do you think about the men at ucsb they're okay are you

01:48:47.120 are you in a sorority i'm in a sorority yeah okay uh the frat guys well uh you know you know they're fun

01:48:54.000 they're fun yeah not for long-term things right that's okay like would it be fair to say that there's

01:49:00.480 not a lot of perfect men out there i don't i i mean i'm i always have the mindset that like no

01:49:05.360 one's perfect right no right no one's perfect so so imagine to get to actually get perfect

01:49:10.880 it doesn't even exist yeah i mean like i can't even define like what a perfect man would be i can't

01:49:15.280 even define what a perfect woman could be help you out a little bit on that so so like when i think of

01:49:20.080 perfect at least i guess this would be from more of a female perspective well i mean it would really

01:49:24.880 be anybody's perspective but you could think okay what are the things that you care about and find

01:49:29.920 attractive in a person so obviously everybody cares about looks so whatever like in terms of

01:49:34.800 looks we just completely maximize all those characteristics you care about whether you know

01:49:40.800 it's it's facial features whether it's height whether it's it's build if you prefer more athletic

01:49:46.240 guy what so like perfect body perfect face perfect height uh then we can get into personality perfectly

01:49:52.560 loyal that's that's actually really big you've heard from a woman here she's in her 30s and

01:49:58.400 can't get a loyal dude i know it's one thing you know when you're in college people are just

01:50:04.240 you know a lot of a lot of people are maybe not in a huge rush to get into some super serious

01:50:09.440 boyfriend girlfriend thing uh i've heard this from a lot of younger younger women it's like yeah the

01:50:14.080 guys kind of just want to hook up they don't a lot of them don't want a relationship um and to be

01:50:20.080 fair some of the women also don't want that too but um so but perfectly loyal so there's never this

01:50:27.120 perfect guy he would never cheat on you he's he's obsessed with you he would never well obsessed and

01:50:31.600 i guess in a healthy way right not in a weird stalker creepy gonna murder you way uh he he treats you

01:50:37.840 perfectly all the things that you would want in him personality wise maybe he's funny maybe he's

01:50:43.760 charismatic he's a protector etc etc and then perfect could also entail he's like obscenely rich he's a

01:50:50.560 billionaire so in this case you just from the financial component you'd never have to work again

01:50:56.320 but the only thing you would have to do in this situation to get him is to give up your career

01:51:01.360 i still wouldn't still don't do the trade let's have you back on in 10 years

01:51:06.000 after by the way just to be clear look i mean uh look i think people can get enjoyment and

01:51:10.480 fulfillment from their careers but uh a lot of a lot of attorneys it's a stressful job

01:51:16.000 yeah a lot by the way the alcoholism rate amongst attorneys is higher than the general population

01:51:21.520 just letting you know and then also as a prosecutor um while you are going to be part of the justice

01:51:28.240 system and bringing criminals to to justice and i think that's a commendable thing you're also going

01:51:34.000 to it's a very stressful job and you're going to be dealing with monsters yeah and i think there's uh

01:51:38.720 what's that saying uh gaze long enough into the abyss and the abyss gazes back at you so when you deal

01:51:45.760 with these monsters i think that can that can have an impact like you're i don't know you're gonna

01:51:50.560 be dealing with child preds and all this kind of disgusting gross people right or just like i don't

01:51:57.120 know then like pretty uh benign stuff too like duis and this sort of thing right um but i do think like

01:52:05.600 it's got to be a stressful job and um i don't know is it is it worth it you know i mean i've like i said

01:52:15.600 i've always been brought up to be my own person and like never rely on someone it doesn't even

01:52:20.400 have to be a man just don't rely on anyone because the only person that's going to actually

01:52:24.480 be there for you is you as a person so i feel like i should be making my own money i should be

01:52:30.320 pursuing my own career i want to do what i want to do and i know that i want to pursue this career

01:52:34.480 i wouldn't want to drop it for like even the perfect guy can i ask you this let's say somebody

01:52:40.000 were not even related to a guy somebody said here's a hundred million dollars in order to

01:52:46.960 have this hundred million dollars which you can spend as you please it's a hundred percent your

01:52:51.200 money and you will uh you can travel with it but here's the catch he can't work and you have to drop

01:53:00.080 out of college but you have a hundred a hundred million dollars you can give it to you can be a

01:53:05.920 philanthropist you can give give it away you can but you can travel do whatever you want to do

01:53:10.720 right do you take it then no a billion dollars you never know what can happen i mean you can easily

01:53:18.000 just like you know how people in like the lottery and stuff like they get all this money and stuff

01:53:21.600 and then they waste it like that like you never know what can happen like i could get this money

01:53:25.520 and then i don't work at all you know and then somehow it just blows through you know in that

01:53:30.240 situation you a hundred million look some of these lottery winners a couple mil yeah they blow through

01:53:35.600 it i mean uh if you're you seem like a smart person you seem like you have your head on straight

01:53:43.040 like i don't know do you are you drug addicted or something do i look drug addicted no but i mean like

01:53:47.920 what i feel like what you're gonna buy a bunch of hookers or something like what are you gonna do

01:53:52.640 with a hundred mil like how are you gonna blow through a hundred mil well exactly i don't know what i

01:53:56.320 would do with it like you're gonna put like i well i mean you put some of it into the stock market

01:54:04.080 you put some of it into crypto and then oh yeah you can you'll be fine like you're not gonna blow

01:54:09.840 through a hundred mil i guess but i don't know do you like fancy cars or something i like working

01:54:15.200 i like i liked i like the idea of like pushing towards something better as always so only if you work

01:54:22.240 will you be able to have any type of drive or push in life not like that but do you want kids no or i

01:54:28.560 mean i'm 19 i don't know yet not now but in the in the future would you do you want to be like married

01:54:34.160 with kids a family things like that i'm not entirely sure yeah i've i've actually been talking about that

01:54:39.040 with my friends because i don't know we're just we're we're teenage girls you know um it's kind of

01:54:45.200 like a hard topic to go off of obviously like children are expensive and like i don't know if i would be

01:54:50.480 the best motherly figure in the world i i don't know i don't know myself as a like well enough as

01:54:55.680 a person in that like area of life yet because that's that's a huge commitment you know what i

01:54:59.920 mean so i don't the idea seems nice but i'm not entirely sure married then yeah i would want to get

01:55:06.000 married but i don't know about a family grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars

01:55:14.560 what's up grid evening brixton had a free moment so i thought i would drop in for a few

01:55:21.200 my wife and i celebrate 20 years of marriage tomorrow i wish all these young women such

01:55:26.720 happiness but they won't let it hey uh great congrats on the 20 years man that's a big milestone

01:55:34.560 congratulations man thank you for tuning in you should stay we got a good panel so uh

01:55:38.800 stay watching man and then uh pendragon looks like you bought a hoodie thank you man appreciate

01:55:43.200 it thanks for buying a hoodie from uh shop.whatever.com thank you man appreciate it uh okay so not even

01:55:49.920 not even related to the guy but even if somebody just offers you a billion dollars you don't take it

01:55:54.640 no okay we're gonna do a follow-up with you in uh seven years ten years we'll do a check-in we have

01:56:03.440 related to this actually really quick before we pull up the video and you'll go on video tab for

01:56:07.760 this nick uh not quite yet um going around the table uh same question for well the first question

01:56:16.160 would you give up your career or if i don't know if any of you are still doing college give up your

01:56:21.200 career for the perfect man who makes a million dollars a year yes so i think it would depend on

01:56:28.160 why he's wanting me to give up the career to be honest if he's wanting me to just give up my career

01:56:32.240 and sit in the house because he doesn't want me to leave the house no if he's wanting me to give

01:56:36.800 up a career to take care of the kids and to stay home and take care of the household yes pretty pretty

01:56:41.920 much that yeah yeah yeah give up the career yeah take it i did yes you did okay is your husband uh

01:56:50.800 a high earner yes he is he's a good earner but i was pre-law as well and i'm outspoken

01:56:55.760 closer closer to the mic oh i i was a very very good athlete in college in texas i i had the sky

01:57:03.360 was the limit for me and that whatever i would have been doing pales in comparison to what i do now

01:57:10.240 and there's not a check big enough for me anyways for what i do so um my husband takes very good care

01:57:15.440 of me and he realizes the the strength that he has and how easy i make his life so he's happy to do

01:57:22.320 whatever he can to help make my life easier every day even though it's really hard for him to do that

01:57:26.640 but he i there's nothing that you could do that's more uh rewarding or hard or cumbersome or taxing

01:57:34.320 or rewarding than raising a family in a household there's nothing yeah i think that it's just you're

01:57:41.120 a really solid rib and i think being the rib of a man is actually a very powerful thing because a rib is

01:57:46.800 what actually allows a man to stand upright so wait question question for you so um did you you

01:57:52.560 graduated though you oh yes yes were you going to law school were you in law school or no no no i was

01:57:59.680 pre-law i went got my master's instead of going to law school master's in criminal justice criminal

01:58:04.720 justice okay and you were wanting to be a prosecutor or what were you wanting to do i i was being an

01:58:09.760 obedient nigerian child and doing whatever i was told um and trying to follow that path

01:58:14.640 because that's what your mom much like her was telling you to go to school my dad or your dad

01:58:20.960 was okay yes take care of yourself make money go to law school and marry one of your professors were

01:58:27.120 his exact words i believe yeah so that somebody who was wealthy could take care of me and i can stay at

01:58:32.880 home and have the option if i wanted to wait what age were you when you met your now husband

01:58:37.440 uh i i don't know how old i was maybe 21 22. did you guys meet in college yes okay gotcha um

01:58:50.000 so you got your master you got your master's though not just working on it but you got the master's right

01:58:55.360 okay and then prior to meeting him though your plan was to go to law school is that correct prior to

01:59:01.200 going to get my master's i wanted to go to law school and but because i just i kind of like chickened

01:59:06.080 out kind of i didn't i was like i'm just i didn't have a lot of support my parents are really strict

01:59:11.200 so i was like i'm just going to go get my master's my dad was like what are you doing like what are

01:59:14.640 you going to do with the master's that's ridiculous and so anything i could do to get out of the house

01:59:19.440 i was like let me go and just leave and i'll go to school as long as i'm not having to deal with the

01:59:26.240 pressure and the stress of not going to law school i can just do something and maybe that'll make them

01:59:31.520 happy and that doesn't work that way but you met you met your now husband and then your life

01:59:37.840 trajectory changed from career to uh housewife taking care of the kids yes okay all right i mean

01:59:48.560 so you were studying pre-law she's studying pre-law what do you think i think that her brain is malleable

01:59:54.640 just based on the the man versus bear and she seems very intelligent and she's very young i i don't

02:00:02.080 think how i thought when i was 18 when i was 20 like there's just so many things that change and when

02:00:08.800 you get married and have children you become smarter you just become smarter and i think moms can

02:00:14.560 understand not smarter like you're not smart if you don't have kids but your brain kind of functions

02:00:19.440 differently i would never have abandoned my potential career for a man ever even while i was

02:00:26.160 married i was not thinking i'm not going i'm not going to not go to work that happened over time

02:00:32.000 where i was like okay we're going to stay home and he's like yeah i think it's best you stay home we

02:00:36.000 worked we went through a process and it just made sense for me to be the one rearing our children

02:00:42.880 because it literally made no sense for us to outsource something when i could do it better yeah

02:00:47.440 yeah beautifully said yes you're a real woman yeah oh thank you being a mom is the hardest job

02:00:55.200 well track and field yeah i don't i disagree with that too did you do hurdles i was a jumper

02:01:01.440 that my forte was jumping nice nice um okay uh i think we got did you answer this question i didn't

02:01:09.360 yet uh i had to quit my job forever for a lot less than the perfect freaking man are you serious

02:01:18.480 yeah um here can i how about this um

02:01:24.720 somebody offers you a job at the courthouse but you're like the security person like you know how

02:01:31.120 the at the courthouse you go through metal detectors and they're like empty your pockets blah blah whatever

02:01:36.400 uh you get uh you have to give up your job but they'll pay you a million dollars to be security

02:01:43.920 at the courthouse do you do it like give up my so i'm a college and career oh but you'll make way

02:01:51.360 more doing that than you will being a prosecutor i don't know they make uh it varies but like maybe

02:01:58.320 eventually like a hundred around a hundred thousand probably i'm still supporting myself then yeah probably

02:02:05.040 like a million dollars that's a lot like give it like giving up my college career to be a security guard and

02:02:10.880 but you make a million dollars yeah yeah that's what i'm saying like i'd probably

02:02:13.760 be the security guard if i'm making more money in that sense wait wait so you you give it up to be

02:02:21.520 the security guard that's what i was about to say is that do i have that correct yeah okay but

02:02:27.120 you don't give it up to not be a security guard like like when i said okay we give you like

02:02:32.880 what was it a hundred million dollars just right now and you don't have to work but you'll work in

02:02:37.760 nine to five for the next 40 years wouldn't i be constantly making a hundred million dollars or am

02:02:42.000 i getting the question no well okay the first it was for the perfect man do you give up your career

02:02:47.760 so it's the perfect man and he makes a million dollars a year you said no then i asked okay uh if we

02:02:53.040 just give you a hundred million dollars flat but you can't do college you can't do career do you take it you

02:03:00.720 said no uh now it's for one million dollars a year will you be the security guard at the

02:03:08.800 courthouse for a million dollars a year so if you work for 40 years you'd make 40 mil

02:03:15.200 so that's less than the 100 mil up front just to do nothing like well you know you are working

02:03:22.320 security at the court i mean like like like not pursuing a career in law or anything like you

02:03:27.120 rather work as a security guard you can't get another 40 yeah okay for 40 years no i wouldn't

02:03:32.800 i'd pursue my career okay so you thought initially you get the the million dollars a year working as

02:03:38.320 a security guard and you can become do your career i guess yeah i just got the question mixed up okay

02:03:44.960 okay um she's ambitious

02:03:48.640 well i mean wouldn't it be more ambitious like give me the hundred mil and i'll do some

02:03:52.320 investing in stocks or something she wants she wants to work i like studying law

02:03:58.560 you can do that oh the video okay go ahead next pull it up

02:04:06.480 i was in college i dated a very traditional christian man who asked me at one point how do you

02:04:11.200 feel about after you graduated we just immediately got married and you were a stay-at-home wife and you

02:04:15.200 didn't have to work i was honestly offended by that question because i was so passionate about this

02:04:19.920 thing that i was getting a degree in that i was just so eager to enter the workforce and do this

02:04:24.320 thing that i loved and get money for it um fast forward to today i've graduated we broke up i'm now

02:04:30.240 working in the profession of the thing that i got a degree in and i changed my mind

02:04:34.480 okay so um felt any thoughts there i can't tell if she's being for real or not i think why i think

02:05:03.680 i mean she's she's kind of uh i i think she's putting it on a little bit but i i think the

02:05:09.360 sentiment is still there yeah it's like well i went to college and yeah i did the college and i have

02:05:15.040 my own career and i it's not clear how long she's been doing the career she still looks pretty young

02:05:21.840 so maybe just a couple years it doesn't seem like she's having much of a blast though i think that's

02:05:27.520 the sentiment there is uh and that's so great i literally like said this the last time i was on

02:05:33.920 too i was like i'm so sick of being an independent woman like i don't want to do it i don't like it

02:05:39.120 like i i i do really big canvases and tattoos and let me tell you i rather just paint whatever i want

02:05:45.200 to paint all day for and just not have to worry about paying bills but being able to just do what i

02:05:51.120 love just because i love it you know it's like i'm i'm i'm good the man can take the wheel you don't

02:05:57.360 want me to wear that bet no problem like we uh oh next segment here um this is just a little fun one

02:06:05.920 as a transition segment make a machine gun noise go

02:06:10.400 i can't roll my do it do it do it quick quick quick what the fuck okay

02:06:24.800 okay wow that was okay felicity no you asked me to do this and i always tell you you have to do it

02:06:32.400 do it if i do it are you doing it yeah yes you're doing it first okay you do do it first i don't trust

02:06:38.560 you i'm just you you do it first come on you know i'll do it do it come on do it i'm gonna do it

02:06:44.400 okay i do it a little different it's like

02:06:48.240 that actually that's more accurate you guys actually did pretty good except for i think you

02:06:54.000 and and you over here yeah it's real apparently there's a thing like they say women can't make

02:06:58.400 machine gun noises but you guys did it so i don't know gamer moment um good job guys that was

02:07:04.960 really good a win is a win right uh okay so we're gonna get into let's see we're gonna do some things

02:07:10.960 from the uh questionnaire actually you know what here let me do my notes first

02:07:16.160 uh let's see here we have our first notes uh haley haley uh oh haley that'd be me okay you said you

02:07:28.400 have many dating stories such as hooking up with someone who would not let you spend the night so you

02:07:33.600 had to walk hours to get home oh my god yeah when was this oh gosh uh how long ago was this

02:07:40.800 uh maybe like 10 years ago so it's been a while wasn't there's not uber lyfts i'm just not surprised

02:07:47.200 that was too broke um so i i just met him on tinder and it was just a hookup and so i knew what i was

02:07:55.120 getting into as far as that was concerned we were on the same page but i figured he just like you know

02:07:59.520 usually well always a guy would let me stay the night before you know if i meet him and we do that

02:08:05.600 you know it's just been a given that you know let me spend the flippin night but not this guy and i

02:08:11.680 think it was maybe okay i lived in san francisco so all the trains had stopped running you know buses

02:08:18.240 even what time of year was it like cold well it doesn't even get that cold there so i don't remember

02:08:22.880 but it could it might have been spring or something it was too cold to be walking home and so when he

02:08:29.200 wouldn't do that and oh you know what he said that was so great i'm like really i can't even just like

02:08:34.400 sleep here and he says well it's just you know i don't really know you so like i don't know i feel

02:08:41.280 like wait wait so okay hold on hold on let me ask clarifying questions to figure this out okay so you

02:08:46.320 got you met on tinder yeah did you go out first or did you go straight to his oh no this was

02:08:51.200 business i don't do that anymore but i did and unfortunately back in the day you go straight

02:08:57.280 to his house and then like as soon as you walk through the door like from walking through the

02:09:01.760 door to having sex how much period of time has elapsed i'm walking in the door uh i don't remember

02:09:08.080 that much i don't think we even watched a movie he might have like put something on and then we we

02:09:12.560 did you talk to yeah we should chat it a little bit but i don't think it was more than

02:09:16.720 not more than 30 minutes it was pretty pretty fast okay and then was it just one round or did

02:09:22.160 you guys kick it for a bit after um i would say we finished and then he like we talk a little bit

02:09:31.040 but mostly he's trying to you know be like well i'm getting tired you know i got to work in the

02:09:34.720 morning and so okay how long total were you at the house i think it's just so long ago i can't

02:09:39.760 remember one hour two hours let's go with two hours tops two hours tops yeah well because you

02:09:47.600 were saying well within about 30 minutes you guys started having sex i mean come on it's what he's

02:09:52.720 not fucking going forever right so uh five minutes it lasted or something like that

02:09:58.240 no how long you last no i'm just fucking around but i like i like taking it slow you know

02:10:05.200 i'm not like on on a mission trying to you know reach the okay the end post there so i like to take

02:10:13.360 my time but how long did so did you take an uber there how did you get there i took that day i think

02:10:20.640 it was just cal train and it was still running like the last one probably that i took so you went over

02:10:25.920 there around like 9 p.m or something safe to say yeah it was pretty late and you just expected to stay at

02:10:32.800 his house yeah i've never done that i feel like i'm always like if i'm like well i've also never

02:10:39.680 hooked up with a guy at his house but like if i'm she does it in park no like bathroom stalls no no

02:10:47.840 7-eleven oval office the dumpster behind like with my ex-boyfriend when we were like first starting to

02:10:54.720 date i'd be like okay i'm gonna go home now bye i can hang out for the day and then i would just leave

02:11:00.800 good because i wanted to i don't know i was never like i'm staying at your house it's not like i

02:11:07.760 wanted to hang out with this but okay so did you okay so you took the train there yeah and then the

02:11:14.320 train by the time you finished what by the way was it was it any good or not really i don't remember

02:11:21.520 i mean i wasn't even drinking so no you were sober sober it was not memorable they're very relevant be

02:11:27.040 quite felicity so anyways um so okay uh do you tell him are you like look it's like 11 a 11 yeah

02:11:37.280 oh yeah oh yeah i wasn't i like at first i was just surprised you know like really just just i can't

02:11:42.640 just sleep you know until this train starts running again that's it you know you don't need to make me

02:11:47.600 breakfast or anything crazy i didn't think that was a big ass i mean did you did you ask him for

02:11:53.920 to like get you an uber or something no oh no that's that's not something i would ask at that

02:12:00.080 point look i i think it's fair for a guy to like in the same way that if a woman's like i don't want

02:12:08.240 you in my house anymore the guy should probably leave i think that has to equally apply to women too

02:12:13.600 there has to be some consideration though like if it was a snowstorm outside and you're like hey i'm

02:12:18.320 gonna fucking die if i have to walk home or whatever in this case sf is i don't think it's particularly safe

02:12:23.520 city um so he didn't offer to drive wait so wait what part of sf was he in and then where were you

02:12:30.960 in oakland or some shit because you should not be walking around in fucking oakland at the time no we

02:12:36.560 lived in good neighborhoods i lived in millbrae which is nobody's probably heard of this mill yeah

02:12:43.440 it's by burling game okay millbrae to where if millbrae to okay it was a four hour walk so four hours

02:12:52.560 south of where i was i don't remember the exact city his house was in millbrae no no i lived in

02:12:57.760 millbrae okay where was he it was i don't remember the city name wait can you can you uh nick google

02:13:04.400 the the the google maps we want to see the fucking distance this she fucking yeah i'd be able to point

02:13:10.320 on a map what tell us the general area of where he was in san francisco so it's this is all kind of the

02:13:17.680 southern bay maybe like halfway to san jose from so wait he was in san jose no

02:13:25.280 all i know is i lived in millbrae and then where was he lady oh my god uh south i south where

02:13:33.760 of millbrae it's all it's all san francisco bay is like this it's just it's probably not that

02:13:39.520 far apart we walk at like two miles per hour it's probably just like eight miles away because we don't

02:13:44.720 walk that okay but it took me four hours to walk that no no i'm not something like a distance

02:13:50.000 that's probably like eight miles yeah that's like eight miles yeah in between just a just a

02:13:58.960 claim donated two hundred dollars nothing better than some women being delusional stay at home mom

02:14:06.000 isn't work guessing most of this panel would rather be supported than earn anything easy question what is

02:14:12.800 minus 40 celsius to far in it fahrenheit i know the answer starting with you i guess okay what was

02:14:20.160 the question i don't remember my uh i think it's i don't it's right there do you see it what is

02:14:24.960 negative 40 celsius to fahrenheit i don't i don't know negative 40.

02:14:31.520 zero i don't know okay um that's the only point where they the two meet celsius and fahrenheit

02:14:37.600 click that arrow no but but hide hide that thing on the no no you see the arrow where it says partly

02:14:49.120 cloudy yeah yeah uh i yeah sure well hold on no go back there was an air okay that's all right do you

02:15:03.520 have it uh okay click on milbrae got to go down a little bit it's okay because when i say san francisco

02:15:17.440 i just mean the whole of san francisco bay there milbrae zoom in okay yeah there's milbrae that's where

02:15:22.160 i lived and then oh it might have been foster city so south uh up north you're saying that's

02:15:35.440 that's south so click from and drag down click

02:15:41.840 other way yes it's south it's out so milbrae click click milbrae and then directions i guess

02:15:48.400 to foster city no we're not going to do that okay don't so he was in foster city it it was oh it

02:15:56.320 might have been redwood shores it was one of those two okay and that's an four hour four hour i mean

02:16:02.800 that pro four hour walk yeah okay uh that's fine all right okay um wasn't fun so i'm saying

02:16:12.400 it's okay he you go over you hook up and then you didn't think of the like ask for an uber or

02:16:21.040 something maybe i did i don't remember so he could have said no all i know is it didn't happen and i

02:16:27.040 was kind of trying to sit and like wait a second so really you know i'm gonna have to walk home

02:16:31.360 because the trains aren't starting for at least six hours or more more than that

02:16:36.320 and i was like not my problem okay i mean i think ultimately i mean ultimately

02:16:47.360 if somebody doesn't want you in your house you kind of got to go but like is it a dick move yes

02:16:55.280 i think you're like okay let them crash on the couch let them stay until morning when they can get

02:17:01.360 get to the train or whatever in this situation offer to pay for the uber or whatever um but

02:17:08.480 actually i that's a very unique scenario but i guess to the whole panel here uh do you think

02:17:16.160 like let's say in the different scenario like you drove there and to get back home you can drive home

02:17:21.680 and you'll be back in 10 minutes uh do you think a man after the first time you have sex with him

02:17:26.640 and assuming like maybe he does want to keep seeing you or whatever but do you think the man

02:17:32.560 the first time you have sex he's under some sort of obligation to allow you to stay over oh no

02:17:38.240 absolutely not for the panel oh sorry no no no i think it's a dick move but no no

02:17:45.440 it i think it depends on the circumstances but no into the mic oh sorry um no i i can't even answer

02:17:56.960 the question because i don't think people should be having sex outside of marriage okay well that's

02:18:01.760 that's a take all right and you said you don't have a problem with it uh i'm yeah it's not something i

02:18:07.920 would do to somebody i think there's some some blame that should be put here on you though

02:18:15.600 uh in the in the sense that you probably should not have assumed that he was going to let you

02:18:24.800 crash yeah like that's the day i learned a little bit i done learned a little bit like i i don't think

02:18:31.680 it's a hundred percent unreasonable for you to have had the assumption like oh he'll probably be fine if

02:18:39.280 i crash just because it would have been something given how far away it was i think it would have been

02:18:45.440 uh the appropriate it would have been appropriate for you to have done some due diligence yes and

02:18:51.440 been like hey just want to check if it is late if i come over uh i'm not going to be able to catch

02:18:57.440 a train back can i can i crash as far as the whole though moving off of your situation but the question i

02:19:03.360 asked the whole panel uh i disagree with you a little bit on this one okay uh i personally uh i i

02:19:15.040 don't think it's like if you don't want the girl to spend the night i don't think it's necessarily

02:19:19.680 rude if you don't don't let her but she let you have sex with her so i just i think like to spend the

02:19:26.080 night versus walking i let her well well no no but that not her situation the situation is you went

02:19:31.600 over to a guy's house you have a car you're 10 minutes away i'm not talking about this that's what

02:19:37.040 that's kind of rude okay no no no the question the question was uh the first time going over the

02:19:42.320 guy's house you drove there you're 10 minutes away okay so there's not a component of you're

02:19:49.040 going to be walking for four hours does that clear it up yeah yeah still rude or i i still think

02:19:54.960 it's rude yeah okay because yeah i mean my position is if uh i think if the roles were

02:20:00.400 reversed and the girl hooked up with a guy and she was like hey um i don't want you to sleep over

02:20:08.720 i think a lot of women would be like well of course it's like your personal space

02:20:12.400 and that'd be like really weird if you felt uncomfortable letting the guy sleep over i would

02:20:17.120 agree i would still say she was rude though i think on either end like you feel comfortable

02:20:21.600 enough to like sleep with me or sleep with her sure you're not comfortable like just letting

02:20:25.440 me crash on your couch well i mean maybe i have like an autistic take on this or whatever but like

02:20:30.240 i i actually um eventually long enough into a relationship what the fuck i didn't mean to press

02:20:35.120 that long enough into a relationship i'm eh well well is it i i prefer separate separate beds

02:20:43.520 slash separate rooms okay you're weird um is it like their first time meeting ever like

02:20:47.920 they're hooking up and meeting for the first time uh first just any first time having sex okay

02:20:54.640 like i'll offer the guest room you know but i think it's i don't think anyone not because i'm just

02:21:00.320 like and i feel entitled to stay at your place i think it's most people leave after a hookup

02:21:06.080 yeah like you can offer but still i think it's at one time a girl forced forced the stay of the

02:21:14.400 sleepover how was that for you well i was otherwise i otherwise liked her but when she did that

02:21:21.440 it kind of in an ironic sort of way it achieved the opposite result she's like

02:21:27.520 because she she was like i like i didn't want to cause any friction so i was like i'm gonna bite

02:21:32.320 the bullet but that was the last time i ever saw her so it's like congratulations you played yourself

02:21:38.240 we had sex one time and you're gone oh it was one time and she was trying to force a sleepover no

02:21:43.120 she so she comes over she comes over we we hook up and i was it wasn't like come over and i'm gonna

02:21:49.680 kick you out but we hung out we hung out and i wanted to see her again but i was like hey listen

02:21:55.280 um i'm kind of tired i i don't i don't like sleep i don't like to sleep next to somebody especially

02:22:01.920 early on i can do it once i'm more comfortable with somebody yeah but like i don't know maybe this is

02:22:06.480 weird because you're saying well you're comfortable having sex with somebody you're

02:22:09.440 inside of her but you can't she can't sleep next to you i'm just saying it's rude i think it's rude

02:22:13.600 to like kick her out some people might i don't know if it if it's necessarily rude but i i can see

02:22:20.400 why a woman might feel slighted or whatever but in this case i feel like sleeping next to somebody

02:22:26.400 there's a component of um i don't know maybe i've seen too much fucking like true crime shit but

02:22:32.560 like is she gonna murder me in my sleep i can't have a total i can put my penis inside of her but

02:22:40.160 she can't sleep next to me i have a more sane take i think it's just like i don't i don't like you

02:22:46.160 that much yeah like if it was that situation it's like if if it's like a hookup you don't

02:22:51.200 typically it's a lot more intimate feelings for people yeah well it's also that but then and it's also

02:22:56.560 it's part of it i think is a uh like it can be difficult for me to fall asleep with somebody

02:23:06.560 you're like that you're not comfortable with too well it's like but i know what you mean if she's

02:23:12.080 moving and shit or if she snores i mean it's not get out no she can have another room but no we're

02:23:18.080 not i don't like i don't like guys that snore but no if she's if she's moving around

02:23:23.840 she's got a small bladder getting up three times during the night to pee or whatever it's like i'm

02:23:29.920 awake once i wake up i can't go back to sleepovers are for boyfriend girlfriend yeah again way more

02:23:36.080 intimate like when it's like i actually want you to be around as i don't want to wake up to your

02:23:40.320 morning breath yeah like you gotta like morning breaths you gotta like i gotta like your morning

02:23:44.800 breath for you to stay the night yeah so but uh and for me i'm not i'm not interested in the one

02:23:50.640 i'd stand ever but even like a girl who i am interested in and i do see a potential with

02:23:56.320 it's i still in terms of comfort comfortability i do prefer either she can take the guest room or

02:24:04.480 just like i'm not gonna kick you i'm not gonna come and then goodbye like we'll cuddle we'll continue

02:24:12.320 spending time together but eventually at some point later on in the night i'm gonna be like all right

02:24:17.840 well let's call it night and i'll see you in a day or two or something like that i think it's rude if

02:24:23.280 she has like nowhere to go whatever sure but it's also rude that she expected to stay in your space

02:24:30.720 oh right so that one girl yeah she she was like i was like hey um like we we hooked we hooked up we had

02:24:38.800 sex and then like i wasn't trying to kick her out immediately i i liked her she was cool and i was like

02:24:44.880 hey let's um let's watch a movie let's get some food we get some food eat some food uh so we were

02:24:51.040 hanging out for like two three hours afterwards and then i was like hey it's getting kind of late

02:24:55.280 and she lived like five minutes away oh like super close right and she's like no i'm staying how long

02:25:04.720 were you guys talking for at this point like a week or two oh that's trespassing and i was like

02:25:11.600 like and she was like no i'm staying and i was like you imagine if a guy did that to one of us

02:25:18.480 i i would call the police that would be like you gotta go i feel like from the female perspective

02:25:24.000 you'd be like whoa this is like a violation it's a violation yeah i think so it's almost weird but i was

02:25:30.320 like i'm not gonna make i was like fuck it i'm gonna bite the bullet and so like she slept and then she

02:25:38.720 left in the morning and you blocked her and then i uh i mean i basically was like and the crazy thing

02:25:45.840 was i was feeling her before but she fumbled she fumbled she forced and i was like it achieved the

02:25:53.120 opposite of what i guess she was trying to do i mean maybe look i get it she was trying to not feel

02:25:57.680 used or whatever but i was like no i liked her blah blah blah and i told her i was like look i'm not trying

02:26:02.480 to uh i want to see you again like let's kick it on how knows let me see you in two days it wasn't

02:26:09.280 like that but then she's like no i'm staying over and like was kind of bratty about not bratty but

02:26:17.280 when was this how long this was i 20 i was 23 oh i was less i was probably a little less assertive

02:26:25.760 how old was she 22 21 something like that yeah and uh she forced it and i was like shit man all

02:26:33.760 right i'm not gonna cause friction right now anyways whatever it's uncomfortable yeah you got

02:26:40.400 oh yeah i didn't sleep very well it's the ick oh i got the ick i got the ick i was like shit

02:26:47.840 and she wasn't snoring but she you know like not snoring but like the audible breathing i'm not gonna

02:26:54.720 lie my nickname is darth vader i i breathe heavy but i'm sleepy i do not like people that snore

02:27:01.440 when my ex used to snore i just put a pillow on his face all right and then he would wake up and

02:27:05.120 you stop snoring anyway sleepovers for us then huh but uh yeah in this case i think the guy was

02:27:12.160 definitely a dick he should have offered to like cover an uber for for you yeah um i mean i don't know

02:27:19.120 if he had it wait question how quick would it been by car like maybe 15 20 minutes oh gosh yeah

02:27:24.560 it's a real real short also wait did he have a car he could did and how old was he do you remember

02:27:30.960 how old he was and then how old were you again when this happened we were about the same age

02:27:36.800 i wasn't looking at a very small window so 25 men and women are different so this would not i don't

02:27:42.640 think a guy could get away with this but honestly like technically it's like trespassing but i would

02:27:49.840 have played look if i was a chick in that situation also you as well as woman or even as a man this is

02:27:55.840 fucking sf you gotta think about your safety like i'm gonna make a stink i'm gonna be like look you

02:28:01.440 want me to leave you gotta trespass me call the police i that might sound fucking insane but i'm not

02:28:07.520 walking home i'm not walking for four hours at night in san francisco i'm sorry yeah as a woman if i was

02:28:14.960 a chick in that situation i'm like call the cops mother yeah or order my order my lift right now

02:28:20.880 or get my drive me or get me an uber yeah ah but what if you like pull some shit and you like go

02:28:26.720 outside and he cancels that shit honestly i didn't even i mean did he did he give you cash call the

02:28:32.880 cops a taxi situation and be like no are would the cops give you a ride chat or no no they don't

02:28:38.880 i would have i could you said but you said you went over there because you were doing sex work

02:28:44.560 right is that what you were doing where did that come from you said something about cash earlier and

02:28:49.440 that it was for business or something you had said that you went over there for business that's what

02:28:54.000 you said oh like just sex oh okay i was going a whole okay i think the expectation after like barely

02:29:02.800 knowing each other was a little off putting on your end but i think he was the bigger dick i think he

02:29:08.320 definitely shouldn't have done that to you and i only made a little stink about it so and nowadays

02:29:13.840 i probably wouldn't make any stink whatsoever just because i'm a little older you should i mean

02:29:18.720 that's just like that's unsafe for you in the wrong direction that you don't deserve that at all

02:29:24.160 i i think the cops might have given i would have at least tried no i've asked them for a ride

02:29:30.640 before they're like and they're like we don't do that i was like i was like 15 and like we're not

02:29:36.960 we're not driving you home i don't know i'm i'm at least trying i'm not i'm not walking like she did

02:29:42.400 four hours at night in san francisco i'm at least i'm at least before i resort to i'm gonna call the

02:29:48.880 cops be like look i just fucked a guy his dick was really small um can you yeah i'm gonna say that on

02:29:56.080 the like if i was a chick i just fucked a guy he like pre like he was a premature ejaculator um he's

02:30:02.320 kicking me out like he's just embarrassed or whatever i'm like i i live four hours away can

02:30:06.880 you can you guys give me a ride that's not an emergency they would laugh at you and hang up

02:30:10.960 premature ejaculation definitely an emergency okay uh no no but but she can try what's what's the

02:30:17.680 worst i mean did do you not have like a family nearby or like friends that you could have called

02:30:22.720 for a ride no i didn't i mean nobody has flipping cars around there you know every most people rely on

02:30:28.720 the transportation but mostly it was just me was he drunk or something no we weren't drinking his

02:30:34.240 wife was gonna come home maybe i don't know look if i was in your situation what i would have done

02:30:41.440 and look it was a very i don't recommend this but like if the choice is between cause a scene or walk

02:30:49.760 four hours at night in san francisco i'm i'm like no i agree i would cause a scene i'm like

02:30:55.280 like listen motherfucker i'm not leave i'm not look you tell him it's unsafe for me to walk four

02:31:03.760 hours alone in san francisco yeah you can let me you can let me stay or i mean you're i'll force your

02:31:10.640 hand you can call the cops and they have to remove me call the cops remove me forcibly you're really

02:31:18.640 down to catch a charge instead of walking if you leave they're not they say the cops will cause a scene

02:31:24.400 but i'm not gonna catch any charges no here's what would happen the cops would come and they'd be

02:31:29.280 like okay now you have to leave at that point you would have to leave i think then they'd probably

02:31:35.440 give you a ride maybe be like and and you would explain it to the cops you'd explain it to the

02:31:40.800 cops either he does the right thing or it's like hey uh i don't know but like say if he say if

02:31:51.600 something happened to you or you like got murdered or something like that i wonder like how that would

02:31:56.100 work on like if he would be any way of responsible because i don't know i wonder how that would have

02:32:01.580 happened nah i don't think he would be responsible no oh maybe only if you were intoxicated wait but

02:32:08.420 like let's think about this right like let's think about the i know this is a bit different

02:32:16.180 but and people are saying in the chat like oh that's crazy but what if the scenario is it's a

02:32:22.120 snowstorm and like the temperature was so low that if you were to go outside you would like

02:32:27.940 die or get hypothermia in that instance i think it's within your right to like refuse to leave yeah

02:32:35.820 absolutely i well you're still technically trespassing oh you mean legal rights okay i don't know well no i

02:32:43.020 you technically still don't have a legal right to be there like if you're in a bar or wait i don't

02:32:49.880 know do do now it's different i was thinking like do do are there any lawyers in the chat do uh let's

02:32:57.500 say you're in a really cold region of the united states and you're in a really cold region of the

02:33:03.880 united states and it's like below freezing if you have a commercial establishment do you have some duty

02:33:10.660 to your patron to like let them inside i don't know wait hold on i actually kind of have an answer

02:33:18.600 because i worked at 7 11 overnight in oklahoma and even if it was like negative snowing or anything

02:33:25.380 we couldn't even let homeless people be in there to just warm their hands up like they would tell us

02:33:30.620 like we would have to tell them to leave i didn't always follow that because i felt really bad but

02:33:35.660 technically i could have got fired how about this what if you live in a really rural area like you're

02:33:41.860 you're 30 minutes away from any other anything else like here's the crazy hypothetical you have your

02:33:47.580 house you it's your house your girlfriend doesn't live there your girlfriend's visiting and i don't know

02:33:54.220 it's a snowstorm and your your girlfriend starts like the giga fucked nuclear argument of all time

02:34:03.380 can you kick your girlfriend out of the house during a snowstorm i think you can i don't think

02:34:10.920 you should but no no hold on but if you do she fucking dies i think you okay you have yeah but i

02:34:18.420 think you have some legal obligation to be like the circumstances right would compel you to not kick

02:34:26.500 them out of the house i mean right yeah i don't think i if you're like dating someone don't i don't

02:34:32.700 even kick people out the house if we're like i'm like having a huge argument with them like me and

02:34:36.780 my ex i'm not gonna be like get out of my house especially if the weather's like that that's like

02:34:41.920 life or death and stuff no but but chat hold on i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure like yes okay you

02:34:49.300 can't trespass if somebody wants you to leave but like life or death like if no if i'm having some

02:34:56.060 like fucking end of the relationship giga fucked argument with my girlfriend and i'm like in if it

02:35:04.680 was otherwise like summer or whatever i'm like get the fuck out but it's the winter and it's snow

02:35:09.940 storming and if she's outside for 30 minutes she's dead no are you asking if you're like yeah are you

02:35:16.420 are you asking liability yeah i'm pretty sure you just murdered somebody if they die on your

02:35:21.900 property you might be held to count i think something similar happened well if you kick

02:35:26.500 like a small child out while the weather conditions are you would get charged with neglect and murder

02:35:31.520 yeah that's kind of a different it is different but it's a similar i think something like that

02:35:36.460 happened in kansas city after a football game and like a few people died oh that's right right

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02:42:34.120 from the video thank you guys you guys are legends thank you thank you uh okay go ahead play it

02:42:40.460 i think that the age of like me having girlfriends and like dating and shit is probably over right i mean

02:42:45.240 like realistically like i i am older and uh i'm also very much a degenerate i'm a weird looking guy

02:42:50.220 uh you know again like i try to look decent on my screen but i'm a weird looking guy and so i don't

02:42:54.800 really think about getting married or having kids i mean it's something i would want to have to do but

02:42:58.120 like i just don't really think i don't see it happening if you want me to be honest

02:43:00.540 okay pull up his instagram now so you guys all were paying attention i hope right okay

02:43:07.280 good friend good friend close friend very good good man his name's zach

02:43:13.560 i am i saw that clip the other day

02:43:17.840 i am making it my

02:43:21.720 duty my goal in life i am going to be

02:43:29.740 i'm gonna his matchmaker i'm gonna be zach i'm gonna get him and i because i do the show every

02:43:36.900 week and i'm i'm always surrounded by some you know some some lovely not all the time but some

02:43:42.120 lovely women so i'm gonna i'm a matchmake him uh so really quick i just want to show you some photos

02:43:47.780 uh by the way he's a protector do you see him with his fucking axe like if you get if you break in

02:43:54.360 like if you're kicking it at his house uh you might need to help him clean up the house a little

02:44:00.800 bit apparently there's roaches and or something i've seen the pictures oh he has a nice jawline

02:44:05.160 yeah that was pretty rough and uh exile that so he'll if some there's a home invasion he'll

02:44:09.520 fucking axe the guy to death he he's a great guy scroll up his name's zach very very nice guy

02:44:15.580 he's successful he's successful you know i think you know he's actually like i think he's he's

02:44:24.000 you know i think he's got like some some good like some good facial features you know like he could

02:44:33.220 maybe you want to date him well i'm straight you know i'm straight but uh i you know i think i think

02:44:41.100 he has some redeeming facial features and he's um he's he's not fat he's he's a thin guy he's not

02:44:48.340 you said you don't like chubby dudes so no i like chubby dudes oh you do not like

02:44:53.700 you know that's fine so anyways um i have taken it upon myself i haven't talked to him about this

02:44:59.880 but i'm just gonna do it i'm going to get him like his dick is my dick his dick is my i'm gonna

02:45:08.480 look he's looking for something serious you know i'm not it's not just about the sex but i'm saying

02:45:13.240 i am gonna be his wingman so uh just like going around the table we have some single ladies

02:45:20.160 actually actually most of you are not single but uh shit for the women who are single um

02:45:26.120 so he's a really good guy he's not looking to like hit it and quit it you know he's looking for

02:45:32.040 he's looking for the one you know he's looking for he wants kids you know can can i basically

02:45:38.420 would you go on a date with him i mean no what what the fuck okay um here really quick before we

02:45:44.380 would would you go on can i get you i would not go on a date with him i mean i'm sorry i'm not i'm

02:45:50.360 not saying that you know it's just is it because he's rich no earlier you said because he's he does

02:45:57.400 very well for himself is it because um earlier you said you don't really care about money i don't

02:46:02.340 no sorry zach um uh and then the only other single wait relationship relationship and then well

02:46:12.320 you're she's available i mean she's like dating again absolutely would and you know what's funny

02:46:19.080 absolutely wait wait repeat that one more time i said absolutely would i fucking got wait and it'd

02:46:26.060 be extra incredible because my fake pretend boyfriend he loves asmund gold he watches him all

02:46:33.780 the time he's a mega fan can you imagine that would be the ultimate revenge

02:46:38.560 plot so wait question though um are you by the way are you like latina or what yeah i'm about half

02:46:45.980 i mean i think zach let me ask the twitch chat uh did zach does he like latinas is he a latina oh my

02:46:56.280 god we're on hype train level oh my goodness they're on fire oh my gosh chill out very excited

02:47:02.820 i just did oh my god shout out twitch holy shit i've just never seen you this excited w twitch

02:47:07.780 w twitch youtube never does that youtube never does that since pasty george bought you two iphones

02:47:13.580 where is that guy um so you would date him though you wouldn't date him why why not i think i'm too

02:47:20.860 young for him i mean if he was down to i mean you don't like how is zach is he like 35 i think

02:47:28.940 uh no but he'll be fine with you being a lawyer or whatever that's okay i'm good does it change

02:47:39.580 anything look i'm okay i'm gonna have to tap into the status he is uh one of the biggest twitch

02:47:47.180 streamers so he's got he's clout i don't know if that matters to you though but he's he's got like

02:47:52.220 look i don't want to make it all about the money and the fame he's he's a good person and i think

02:48:00.040 he's got a lot to offer i think he'd be a good person for someone his own age though

02:48:06.820 yeah well if he was he looks younger though how old is he again does he i think he's 35

02:48:13.280 what kind of content he's a good guy i actually thought he was younger than 35 based on his

02:48:17.560 appearance i'm not gonna lie i thought he was younger i did i'm pretty sure he's 35 i think

02:48:24.420 he's my age uh wait uh as old age 35 about 35 okay he's maybe a year younger than me 35 36 um

02:48:35.300 and you wouldn't no what why not um definitely just not you've been celibate for three years i think we

02:48:41.380 can't you know i think here look look look it's just not my give him a chance will you go on a date

02:48:47.180 with him uh yeah i i'm open to giving anybody a chance okay and we're you live in los angeles okay

02:48:55.060 so here's what we're gonna do he's in austin he doesn't leave his house i don't either so

02:49:02.760 i'll we're gonna fly you out to austin i don't travel i really don't i do you don't like to fly i hate

02:49:12.800 to fly yeah yeah the only reason we're gonna do a train then i i will not leave okay we'll do

02:49:19.080 horseback he can't go to her no i i have responsibilities at home so i don't leave he

02:49:24.660 can come to me you have cats what do you have i have a dog you have a dog my entire life bring

02:49:29.320 the fucking dog i can bring the dog bring the dog yeah i also have a job well you know so don't worry

02:49:35.560 if you if you get what i think i think his uh schedule might be a little bit more flexible

02:49:40.100 than mine so maybe he can come to me or if he's in los angeles well i mean the guy the streams every

02:49:44.080 day almost i don't think it's gonna work okay well all right so yes i got okay i got one and it sounds

02:49:50.820 like you would go on a date if he came to la yeah okay all right i'm gonna make this happen okay chat

02:49:59.740 i'm gonna make it really quick pull up the twitch thing one more time okay guys if you chat

02:50:05.740 drop us a fall on the prime sub if you want to see a live streamed date that's between asmongold

02:50:14.300 and look i'm gonna keep i'm gonna keep grinding away at this i you know next show i'm gonna get

02:50:20.100 we got this his dick is my dick i'm gonna get this guy a new i'm gonna get him a wife not just

02:50:28.300 because you know that's sweet he'd be look i i feel like you know i feel like asmongold is probably

02:50:34.860 low-key like that guy's got game i feel like asmongold has game zach has game like he'd be

02:50:42.300 running through these austin hood rats like he'd be running through them like i feel he's secretive

02:50:50.100 about it though he he he doesn't he doesn't advertise that shit like he'd be running through

02:50:55.280 just slaying hood rats left and right slaying these hood rats

02:51:00.320 i'm just saying i'm just saying um but zach listen i got you dude we're gonna i saw that

02:51:13.860 fucking clip you're a good guy we're gonna get you a wife you're gonna pump out a couple kids

02:51:19.520 and they can continue the legacy the world of warcraft legacy okay um

02:51:26.400 i was uh okay never mind um really quick pull up the twitch again guys drop us a follow and that

02:51:37.000 prime sub drop us a follow oh my goodness they are on fire mars thank for the prime gmx thank for the

02:51:43.380 prime smoke a bowl thank for the prime half pint thank for the tear oh my goodness a resub for

02:51:49.300 28 months thank for the tier one jaffa thank for the prime d2 legend there's so many we won't be

02:51:53.840 everybody else thank you thank you thank you really appreciate all the support over there on twitch

02:51:56.960 oh my goodness yeah by the way like i i was like with with the ads i don't want to put ads on twitch

02:52:05.460 like we have to put some because apparently if you disable i think if you disable the ads um

02:52:12.540 they're gonna give you a pre-roll and i'm like fuck the pre-roll i want people to come into the

02:52:17.640 you know i don't know that's what's frustrating about twitch streaming from like the creator's

02:52:21.900 perspective i don't want somebody to like their first time coming into the stream or whatever

02:52:26.080 and they get bombarded with like a 36 30 second 60 second 90 second ad like i i don't even so we

02:52:33.580 try to run super minimal ads um so anyways whatever i don't know that's not related anyways back to the

02:52:40.260 show back to the show sorry guys i spurged out there for a bit it was the accent actually you

02:52:47.940 know what any females watching any women watching if you wanted me to set you up don't be a fucking

02:52:53.600 troll about it be legit you want me to set you up on a date with zach i got it you can dm if you're a

02:52:59.900 woman no men okay he's straight if you're a woman and you want me to set you up on a date with zach

02:53:06.640 you got to dm out whatever and i'll i'll make it happen i'll make it happen i'm gonna make a

02:53:13.860 girlfriend application too for anyways i could give you help i was just about to say learn from

02:53:18.740 the best this girl has a girlfriend application nick we're gonna react to her girlfriend's

02:53:24.020 or yes oh it's boyfriend it's from a long time or boyfriend yeah it's a summer boyfriend

02:53:29.740 application nick can you uh zoom it in a little bit oh my god bigger bigger bigger just yeah that's

02:53:36.240 good all right so there you go she's included some semi-degenerate bikini photos um scroll down

02:53:43.800 of course scroll down okay so here sab sab you're gonna read just read okay my requirement is sab is

02:53:51.560 looking wait start from the top oh sab is looking for a temporary boyfriend till september who is

02:53:58.740 handsome single and fun man to hang out with during the summer before she leaves i was leaving london

02:54:03.600 don't actually have to be boyfriend and girlfriend my requirements is i want a pretty boy mainly white

02:54:09.060 not in a racist way 19 to 26 years old with some exceptions 5 10 plus no breaker proper handsome has

02:54:17.200 some background in modeling is a plus no facial hair or minimum facial hair might be okay no tattoos or

02:54:24.780 minimal might be okay doesn't think or doesn't do nicotine is preferred no drugs preferred not fat sorry

02:54:31.740 pro athlete and high status men welcome extra info you can be broke and not have a job you can be a

02:54:39.280 uni student you can be working you don't need to have a certain amount of followers down to go on

02:54:44.500 holidays i pay must be 18 plus i don't care if you still live with your parents i have my own flat

02:54:49.800 jewish men please apply right wing men is a plus loves football gaming ufc tennis etc etc um i did not meet

02:54:58.480 my current boyfriend this way but he fits a lot of that except he's not jewish yeah okay all right um

02:55:06.540 you should have included though you should have included on this that you're diabetic yes you

02:55:13.940 should have included um which uh let's see really quick shout out john straight thank you for the 30 on

02:55:19.320 venmo um question for you though before the show you were like tell us about the the the insulin

02:55:26.340 long acting or whatever i drove here from la and i left my long acting insulin at my hotel

02:55:33.500 and i have to give it to myself once a day it's because it works over a period of 24 hours

02:55:39.180 and the time that i'm supposed to give to myself is basically now so i have to leave the show early

02:55:45.660 but in like two hours from now so i could go back to la what are you type one or i'm type one i've had

02:55:51.880 it for 15 years okay yeah so this is really irresponsible of me to have what is it long

02:55:57.460 acting long acting and insulin correct um

02:56:01.600 okay and it's like is there like a workaround like what if you just have sugar or that doesn't work

02:56:11.480 if your blood sugar is low you need to have sugar to bring it up so because we got snacks you know

02:56:17.300 what i'm saying well yeah but it's the opposite i don't need sugar i need insulin i need to keep my

02:56:22.340 blood sugar so retarded the long acting releases like a little bit of insulin over 24 hours to

02:56:27.900 maintain you whereas all your bodies are doing that right now because you have a working pancreas

02:56:31.500 i don't so my body is my blood sugar cannot be controlled without long acting i could okay and it

02:56:38.740 would just curious i'm not gonna like i'm not gonna have you go into like a diabetic coma or

02:56:43.980 whatever well what would happen though i'm just curious if you're without like if you yeah it's

02:56:48.780 called dka diabetic ketoacidosis and it's when your blood basically becomes like poisonous kind

02:56:54.280 of yeah you start like getting shaky and then it would be uh more of like i have to go to the

02:57:01.680 hospital do you like pass out or what happens i'm just no not even you can like throw up uh you

02:57:06.740 become very dehydrated you need to go to the hospital to keep fluids in you because you can't

02:57:11.720 retain fluids well at that point still magnolias with julia roberts what happened yeah yeah there's

02:57:17.540 it's very like medical and annoying you can't take a day off it's an obsession it feels like an eating

02:57:23.140 disorder to obsess about like your what you eat because that will affect your blood sugar levels

02:57:29.280 and you take it you take it every day yes i have multiple injections is it like a finger or what

02:57:33.900 no that's to test that's to test it i do injections where like in the belly or yeah belly arm and thigh

02:57:41.460 oh okay good times does anybody in the santa barbara area have some emergency some emergency

02:57:49.540 long acting insulin you really want me here well i mean like normally the show goes a little longer

02:57:54.060 than 10 so i'm just saying like does anybody have a plug like an insulin plug it's gonna be like

02:57:59.320 poison is that like illegal to it's unsafe no but like not illegal to like if you're on the streets

02:58:06.460 the mean streets and you're like are and you're trafficking insulin is that like technically a

02:58:12.920 crime it's i believe it should be because like i was trying to legally get insulin like am i giga

02:58:18.260 fucked um there's no way to legally get it on the street so i think any like selling of medicine on

02:58:26.160 the street is illegal even if it's a prescription if it's a prescription not if it's advil but yes you

02:58:32.960 can get it on the dark web okay my bodybuilder boyfriend did it about illegal insulin look i'm

02:58:39.320 trying to i'm trying to hook a girl up i'm trying to get get her some insulin

02:58:42.160 okay i'm just looking out you know yeah thanks yeah is there like so what did people do before

02:58:55.220 like die just die they just died well they used like cow insulin for a while from animals but i think

02:59:01.120 that was only from the 70s or 60s onward nice before that it was death you're just damn yeah

02:59:07.860 good times yeah yeah that's good times um okay getting back into the notes though we have uh

02:59:16.180 oh the girlfriend boyfriend application oh yes what would going around the table to open up to the

02:59:21.620 whole panel though if you were to make a boyfriend application what would you put on it maybe i maybe

02:59:28.160 there's a lot but maybe give us like two or three things looks wise and like two or three things

02:59:33.000 not looks wise personality wise okay um tall preferably like brunette um good build like you

02:59:42.900 don't have to be like built built but like you take care of yourself you know what i mean um personality

02:59:47.380 wise very like adventurous and stuff because i really like traveling and then probably very

02:59:54.760 generous i like generosity a lot okay uh well we kind of did you know mine yeah looks wise i'm not

03:00:02.920 too picky um somewhere between 5 8 5 10 as far as height um i more so go for like character

03:00:10.960 and personality sure um so somebody who has a provider mindset somebody who is compassionate

03:00:17.320 and empathetic and um very motivated and like growth mindset always trying to do better okay

03:00:24.200 um six foot brunette preferably although i don't really care um and uh travels for work is a plus

03:00:35.340 yeah separate uh houses would be great separate houses yeah

03:00:40.940 i like my wouldn't but wouldn't you're if you're just meeting them you said my perfect guy no just

03:00:53.320 like if you had a put out a boyfriend application oh yeah some of the things that not maybe not a

03:00:57.820 boyfriend application but like what are some of the criteria that you would use to judge a potential

03:01:03.360 boyfriend application um loves animals that's high on yeah it really is yeah i care a lot um

03:01:12.240 uh what if they just like animals that's okay yeah they're not like i would never date someone who

03:01:18.680 doesn't like dogs for instance okay you know what i mean like they have to it's right that's weird

03:01:22.840 sure there's some people that yeah it's not that they like are animal abusers right they just don't

03:01:28.080 like animals they prefer to not be around right and i love them so um yeah all right what about you

03:01:34.620 um definitely taller than me and then i i really like the white redneck thing i i just really like

03:01:42.140 white guys yes i do is your current boyfriend uh white guy yes okay and redneck yes wow and redneck

03:01:50.760 uh well you're married so i mean probably no boyfriend applications in your future but you

03:01:56.480 want to just say some of the positive characteristics you like about your husband i would say the first

03:02:02.920 thing would be fit and healthy so that i would want to talk to him the next would be christian and then

03:02:10.700 the next would be and probably less for starters it'd be had to be really really really smart

03:02:16.220 nice okay what about you uh i don't know if you didn't cheat on me that'd be nice that's probably

03:02:23.740 about it yeah damn get this girl a shit damn it's tough out here i know okay um let's see i guess

03:02:33.940 moving on then uh oh i guess i could do what what i would what i would want okay i i wrote it down

03:02:39.480 actually uh in preparation for this segment uh let's see here okay any race is fine but

03:02:45.940 slight preference for asian women and or white women hell yeah asians i will allow asians

03:02:51.360 well allow asian of course uh but you know i've dated i would date latinas totally fine

03:02:56.860 but that's my slight preference um let's see um we'll do looks and personality so i guess i'm starting

03:03:06.860 with looks here uh natural body supremacist so like it's not 100 a deal breaker not

03:03:14.920 not 100 a deal breaker but preference for like no plastic surgery i guess um not a deal breaker but

03:03:23.360 strong preference for and it depends the plastic surgery like

03:03:26.640 bbl not not a not not a huge fan of that um prefer yeah prefer more on the natural side

03:03:38.500 less or no makeup um yeah uh what else uh i don't care about boobs i mean nice big boobs whatever

03:03:49.500 that's fine i'm not like uh i don't really care that much about it ass the fuck is this combat

03:03:55.860 i feel like i'm i'm wording this completely wrong like a nice like a cup b cup c cup don't care

03:04:04.500 whatever uh not to say that like c cups d cups whatever not it's not that i don't like it i'm just

03:04:11.800 saying i don't care uh but you know whatever i'm a i'm a labia guy hashtag big labia matter blm

03:04:18.820 hashtag blm it's the pressing issue of our time um yeah i just

03:04:24.180 it's kind of a strong preference there i am not a butt guy you know they have like there's

03:04:30.840 a boob boob guys and butt guys i'm a labia guy i was yeah he's a large labia have you been with

03:04:37.000 like a big fat ass before because i feel like that's why you maybe you're not into you haven't

03:04:43.760 i haven't i've okay hold on okay i don't know i've had the spectrum of oh of everything i've i've

03:04:51.160 had a diverse i'm i'm a a well diverse i'm a dei uh okay yeah i've had diverse body types i guess

03:05:01.900 you could say what don't you like about it about what like a big ass yeah no it's not it's not that

03:05:07.100 i dislike it like don't get me it's not like how do i explain this like like a non-bbl big butt

03:05:15.660 like a natural so like for example if a woman has an a cup or is flat that's not like some guys might

03:05:22.440 be like i don't know i prefer girl with like i it's never a consideration now not to say that like

03:05:28.080 if you were to ask me okay well brian show us a picture like explain what like perhaps you think

03:05:33.800 the like optimal or best looking breast sizes not to say that it wouldn't necessarily it might be

03:05:40.600 like c cup or i don't know whatever i could i would probably lean more towards like something

03:05:46.160 that's bigger than a cup but that's not to say that i would not i'm incapable of being insanely

03:05:51.480 attracted to a woman who does have an a cup or is flat or whatever are you like a face guy

03:05:56.040 face important but labia oh because labia number one high on the list high on the list i would say

03:06:02.320 but um the butt thing what was your question i was just surprised that you were just like you don't

03:06:07.860 care if someone's like flat or not so i think shape oversize yes shape oversize because there's

03:06:14.740 some fucking diaper butts yeah that are huge not a not a fan but like i i think

03:06:20.920 the the are you talking like a thick girl no i mean like a gym girl like i think because i i think uh

03:06:30.380 i think they're visually like the thick

03:06:33.760 you know appealing okay but like for for like actual sex okay yeah i don't know like i don't know

03:06:47.180 i don't know either i don't have a i i'm just saying it kind of it can complicate things in

03:06:51.980 the bedroom if she's a if she's a thicky icky but that's what i'm saying like a gym girl like a thin

03:06:58.080 but like a nice butt like a nice butt but you're talking big butt well big big big i mean like a gym

03:07:03.280 big butt not like are you talking about donk a donk no no no i mean like summer right do you know

03:07:09.940 summer right yeah i think i'm like sofia gara this type of natural big but that's more shape i guess

03:07:17.140 you probably like them then not like a kylie jenner i think shape yeah is a bit better all right but

03:07:26.200 like if she doesn't have a great ass or i don't care that's not a deal breaker but look i don't get

03:07:31.260 me wrong like i i am a fan i'm enjoy a nice ass i enjoy a nice ass you know hell yeah there's that

03:07:38.280 but it's not a deal breaker it's not a deal break like it's not like oh she's got a small bum like i

03:07:44.280 can't date no i don't really care um but like the the problem with the big ass though like the big ass

03:07:52.200 is look i'm gonna be it came up earlier that guy had a twitch username brian's teeny peen

03:07:59.680 my penis size is average and sometimes you know looking i'm not i'm not packing a tenature you know

03:08:06.820 if she's got fucking thunder thighs and a giant fucking ass certain sexual positions are off the

03:08:14.080 table for a guy like me so what i'm saying is i'm saying is i'm a guy who likes a woman on top

03:08:20.880 okay i'm not trying to get crushed okay i'm not trying to get crushed give me a little petite girl

03:08:26.240 with a nice ass and i can make it work okay but if shit of ass is a bit too big i'm sorry on top

03:08:32.720 her on top which is one of my favorites it's not gonna work doggy style you can get around it a

03:08:37.900 little bit doggy style is effective even for a fucking thick girl you know you know i'm fucking

03:08:43.480 saying right but anyways what was i saying look i'm just saying i'm telling you these thick girls you

03:08:48.220 know sometimes these guys they think the bigger the better but i'm telling you in the bedroom

03:08:52.720 sometimes it can cause some situations it can be it can be some complications i'm telling you

03:08:57.380 you take a girl it's like can you even get there can you even get to the vagina sometimes i guess look

03:09:04.520 as a guy who's average size sometimes i can't even you know i can't even uh i'm scared sometimes you

03:09:11.520 know i understand that's a lot of weight coming down that's gravity that's scary that's gravity you

03:09:16.520 know she's going too quick i could have a broken penis i'm not trying to do it i need a girl i can

03:09:21.480 kind of control you know control a little bit in the bedroom i see a nice if she's thrown that

03:09:26.220 shit back and she's got oh my god it's too much you know she's got too much cushion for the push

03:09:32.200 and i know i can't you ain't packing like that uh it's average i'm not saying i gotta look i'm just

03:09:38.040 being honest i'm not i don't have a micro penis it's just i have an average penis okay and look save

03:09:44.220 the the the thick women save it for the the bbc or whatever save it for the the guys with the

03:09:50.060 big dicks i'm i'm gonna say i was kind of like a thicker girl i've some of the issues he's saying

03:09:55.640 i actually have experienced that does it suck like what happens you learn to fake it really well

03:10:01.160 oh wait fake it fake look there are positions even with the thick girl i can still get access to i'm

03:10:10.060 just saying if on top if it's harder if she's got big legs and giant ass it's hard to get there you

03:10:18.860 know no and i'm like it's just the tip yeah and honestly even with some like being on top it sometimes

03:10:28.300 it still doesn't it it could fall out you know i get it i think that's just the size yeah but that's

03:10:35.580 what i'm saying that like obviously these were probably less than average men as well so but

03:10:41.700 oh wow yeah look i was young i was young i'm curious why fake it i mean that doesn't help a dude either

03:10:50.600 agreed i was super young that's bad communication super young fake it was i was super young and it

03:10:56.360 wasn't like anything serious like after that i never spoke to him again so i'm sure every girl at this

03:11:02.880 table has faked it at least not me no really wow i do not inflate i faked an orgasm on shit

03:11:08.460 how do you do that as a man well i mean there's there's a content involved so it's a bit easier

03:11:16.720 okay um wait why did why did you do that as a guy i just you just weren't feeling it all of a sudden

03:11:26.300 look i i don't think you should fake it i've never i faked it one time and you shouldn't fake it it's

03:11:33.740 bad okay but i did it don't worry about it i'm just curious why would i do that herself i needed to

03:11:41.060 help her self-esteem wow she needed it yeah he's a hero guys he's a hero she was she was struggling

03:11:48.340 so i know how the women that fake it hey i'm a nice guy i came in and i you know i don't fake it

03:11:53.100 huh i don't fake it congratulations felicity i'm not a fraud like you it was one time okay just kidding

03:12:01.420 it was one time just kidding is that the yeah wait leave it there nick do you guys see the moon

03:12:07.860 is that the moon like oh i think i see what you're saying the yellow the yellow the yellow dot w moon

03:12:14.880 shout out shout out to the moon joining us for our fucking dating podcast welcome to the uh welcome

03:12:21.560 the moon has seen some crazy shit seen a lot of people fucking in public let me tell you if the

03:12:27.840 moon had eyes have you done that before yeah you had sex in public on the beach oh

03:12:35.860 probably in a park in like a family it's been a minute though i it was when i was young i was when i

03:12:43.040 was young i was like you know you don't have your own place and it's like oh i could fuck in the car

03:12:47.640 or i could fuck in the beach actually i don't think i fucked in the car

03:12:52.140 i had sex on the beach though a couple times and let me tell you at night at night and let me tell you

03:13:00.040 not great not great and then the fucking tide was coming in and we were going at it

03:13:08.220 and it what do you do you know what do you do we got the fucking water hit us oh my god that's

03:13:15.460 kind of romantic though no i can see that actually that's more like a movie you know maybe in real

03:13:22.100 life it's not as like practical but in a movie it looks nice it's a nice idea yeah with the sunset

03:13:28.040 how did we get oh the oh the oh the i should i i must be coming across as incredibly superficial just

03:13:34.280 talking about boobs and butts and labias and penis let me talk about what i'm yes and let me talk about

03:13:40.580 what i'm looking for uh in terms of personality okay let's see here i wrote it down uh oh my how many

03:13:51.380 oh my god what the hell hey don't look uh uh let's see um i prefer introverted women typically

03:14:03.940 it's not a deal breaker for women's extroverted but i typically prefer i'm introverted myself too

03:14:09.420 uh so i definitely prefer somebody who matches me there uh i'm a bit more i don't like to like i'm

03:14:17.400 more of a home body i mean i i like to go out into nature but i don't like fucking i don't know

03:14:23.300 going to festivals and shit i don't know um what else uh submissive pleasant what else what else what else

03:14:35.800 what else uh introverted quiet calm soft-spoken um yeah

03:14:45.100 peaceful peace is big peace is big i don't need a girl to be all i don't need charisma i don't need

03:14:53.100 a big personality i like somebody who's pleasant and can uh you know it's it's good if we can have

03:15:02.020 a fun convo and enjoy each other's presence but you don't gotta be funny i don't care about that

03:15:07.260 yeah bring me peace though that's important gotta bring peace and i don't i don't drink i don't do

03:15:12.960 drugs i don't party i don't smoke so i'm if she drinks a little bit that's okay but ideally like

03:15:18.840 very minimal drinking no partying no drugs none of that shit no bars no clubs

03:15:23.420 and uh yeah acts of service that's big she's gotta do acts of service

03:15:33.900 and shut up pelissa acts of service is big um like volunteering

03:15:42.120 for me no i don't want you like going to the homeless shelter like at the soup kitchen

03:15:50.600 acts of service for me i got it you gotta be doing shit for me uh yeah and uh yeah acts of service

03:15:59.900 word cool good good talk okay on to the next thing oh the bow video nick let's do the bow video

03:16:09.940 what do you do what are you doing back there nick are you you're putting pants on by the way chat nick

03:16:15.220 has been naked this entire time back there he's cold i think nick is putting pants on he was in his

03:16:20.900 g-string uh before before banana hammock yes yeah that's why that's how we get all the women on the

03:16:28.100 show we have nick is a look he only has one leg on what is it called what is the um a chippendale

03:16:36.260 nick is a chippendale he's a stripper that's how you okay do we have the bow video oh this is okay

03:16:45.120 so this is a video i took of my ex-girlfriend and um because i was like look kind of similar to her

03:16:51.860 her situation you know how he was all saying like my next girl so i was telling her i was like look i

03:16:57.840 gotta make a tutorial video that i gotta show future women so i i'm using you as an actress

03:17:04.720 that's and that's great that went over well but anyway so i was like look i gotta take a video

03:17:10.480 because you do such a great job like you're the placeholder kind of like her situation

03:17:15.860 you're the placeholder why are you like throwing shade for no reason don't worry about it felicity

03:17:21.660 you're the placeholder oh so i'm not you i'm talking yeah you're the placeholder so i have to

03:17:28.120 uh i'm gonna you're gonna help me with the tutorial because i feel like sometimes you gotta

03:17:35.020 not all women you know some of you get guys have bad habits and you got you you got to deal with a

03:17:43.300 a real man these girls uh to to get you caught up to speed let me get you caught up to speed

03:17:52.540 on what it takes in 2025 2026 to deal with you know to get a man a top tier man you know we gotta

03:18:01.080 well i hold on i don't i don't like that the that kind of categorization but i'm just saying you know

03:18:07.080 i i have to uh sometimes you gotta correct bad behaviors you sometimes you gotta you need

03:18:13.220 to watch a lot of videos then you need to watch a lot of videos felicity but sometimes you gotta

03:18:19.000 you know you gotta undo certain propaganda you gotta you gotta get a woman caught up to speed

03:18:24.940 so let's go ahead play the video

03:18:26.100 boom huge bow so that's rule number one she has to bow as soon as i come home she's so beautiful

03:18:35.820 well oh my god i love like she got a lot of help from her doctor but um okay is she korean she is

03:18:42.900 korean so you know you know how they do it with the plastic surgery i think she's korean maybe she's

03:18:47.400 chinese i don't know i never asked her um has to have my dinner ready crack open a beer for me

03:18:53.460 and stir my noodles because obviously i consume noodles frequently one more time the bow let's just

03:19:00.060 uh play it again oh boom huge bow do you see the depth you see the submissive hand posture do you see

03:19:06.360 the slightly uh inward i guess they're not inward whatever the the submissive hand so going around the

03:19:13.460 table um would you would you do this for your boyfriend husband whatever no no yeah pretty cool

03:19:19.660 okay you like it my current boyfriend yes yes no you you wouldn't do it perfect man it depends

03:19:25.360 for the perfect man it's kind of weird into the mic into the mic oh sorry it's it's a little weird

03:19:29.680 to me but the bow or the other stuff or all of it all of it all of it a little weird i mean i would

03:19:35.040 do it because i'd love the person that i'm with but i wouldn't i wouldn't want it to be an obligation

03:19:40.000 by him you know obligation okay yeah expectation expectation don't you have expectations though

03:19:46.960 i've never been in a relationship so i don't really know maybe maybe like how about this as

03:19:55.700 an expectation don't fuck other people well my rule of thumb is if i find out that you've hooked up

03:20:01.980 with someone else i get to hook up with someone else and it could be your brother that's your dad

03:20:06.160 wait your best friend yeah yeah so is that what you do no i've never had you've never done a

03:20:11.140 revenge fuck no no no a spite fuck no no okay damn that's gangster well you that's kind of gangster

03:20:19.120 and you'll never know who it is either wow yeah that's kind of an l for you though

03:20:23.680 i i feel like that's an l as the girl like okay well my boyfriend was a dick so i'm gonna go fuck a

03:20:31.700 bunch of dudes that's no no i wouldn't even say that i break up with him and be like okay well you

03:20:35.680 so now i get a hall pass that's a little i feel like that's a bit toxic though it very well i think

03:20:40.760 i've never been in a relationship i think you just break up you either break up with them

03:20:44.300 or you i mean i guess you can accept them back yeah sometimes cheating it doesn't necessarily mean

03:20:50.280 you're gonna break up but you either break up with them or you accept the cheating i guess in that

03:20:58.300 instance but i think that's the l as the girl to be like i'm gonna show you i'm gonna be a whore

03:21:06.080 no no no it would it would be ahead of time like i just want to let you know like if you if i find

03:21:11.400 out you cheat on me like i get to i get yeah that's still yeah if i find out you cheat on me

03:21:16.280 i'm gonna be a whore that's not that's not that's an l for a woman that's an l for a woman it is an l

03:21:21.760 for a woman that's not that's not a w that's an l is it that's a major i don't know again i've never

03:21:29.000 been in that situation you fuck another chick by the way got men shouldn't cheat women shouldn't

03:21:33.820 cheat but i'm telling you that's not that's not like a that's not an own like hey buddy if you

03:21:39.820 ever cheat on me i'm gonna let another guy come in my what jeez i would never say that that's not

03:21:46.580 that's not a w i'm not calling it a win okay i think it's an l on both sides yeah but that's not

03:21:51.980 like your revenge i mean i guess it technically would be revenge if he was upset by the fact that

03:21:56.480 you fuck somebody else but like it's not worth it to fuck somebody else probably not did you do that

03:22:03.360 to the olympic guy i've never done that because he was fucking other people maybe for sure yeah

03:22:08.000 although it's weird that he talked to you like every day for a year and you guys never met

03:22:12.380 um okay great we were going around the table fuck i told you the bowing the bow oh when you

03:22:18.760 bow for your yeah i do more than what was in that video best good answer what about you why are we

03:22:27.760 bowing respect it's a show of respect and we're married or dating it could be boyfriend or it could

03:22:35.440 be married well i don't ascribe uh marital privileges to boyfriends so if it was my husband

03:22:42.060 your husband then you go home tonight or wherever your boyfriend next week and you is your husband

03:22:49.760 here in town no okay well next time you see your husband maybe you think he's watching oh yeah he

03:22:55.760 is hi babe what's this can you say his first name or do you want to keep that private oh i don't know

03:23:00.520 i didn't ask him okay well probably not but we'll call him chad uh chad i like that you must insist

03:23:07.760 on the bow but um next time you see her but what you would do it if you want he's he's so sweet i

03:23:13.300 would bow to him and but he wouldn't make me do that but i i would okay what about you would you do

03:23:18.260 it oh yeah i would do that i mean as long as it's not actually serious serious where he's like if you

03:23:24.040 don't do this for you for me like every time i come into the room you know it's over no i would do i

03:23:29.140 would do that of my own volition yeah that's just that's just fun and cute be a little thing

03:23:33.100 okay all right um wait so no it was no and then no i think depends wait how about this for the not

03:23:42.780 just any guy the perfect guy would you hit a bow no really i think it's weird i don't it's kind of

03:23:50.140 well i get that it's weird right i'm sure it might be weird it might be unorthodox but not even for the

03:23:55.720 perfect guy no so okay here look you're young you've not dated too much it sounds like here's

03:24:03.580 how the future is going to play out for you and i could be wrong right um a lot of women are really

03:24:10.440 dissatisfied with dating here's what's going to happen you're going to jump from guy to guy to guy

03:24:15.260 to guy you're going to have a series of disappointing relationship after relationship after relationship

03:24:20.820 some of which are going to cheat on you maybe one or two of which uh hopefully not but one or two of

03:24:26.660 which might be abusive you're telling me that for a complete once a day three seconds you just have

03:24:32.280 to for the perfect guy never cheats on you never leaves on never leaves you is way more attractive

03:24:39.460 better looking better personality than let's be realistic here uh there are such thing as leagues

03:24:45.360 so you're going to have to be operating in your league in terms of looks in terms of personality

03:24:50.860 career etc etc the perfect guy in this case would be a 10 out of 10 in looks 10 out of 10 personality

03:24:56.920 10 out of 10 loyalty 10 out of 10 everything 10 out of 10 money so you could be a billionaire

03:25:01.980 you wouldn't bow for a billionaire no 10 out oh my goodness it's weird i don't i get that it's weird

03:25:08.480 why would i do that i would honestly for the perfect woman i would even bow and that's like

03:25:14.180 that i feel like that's even worse because i think if we're looking at things through the lens of like

03:25:21.400 i know you probably aren't like traditional or whatever but like society it's deemed more socially

03:25:28.020 acceptable for a woman to be to do a submissive act right in this case like a bow would be to some

03:25:34.120 degree submissive now i would still want to lead in this relationship but i'm saying that this

03:25:39.820 specific thing to me is completely benign it takes three seconds all i have to do is bow but i'm still

03:25:44.820 the leader in the relationship uh even though it's like would be socially unacceptable to some degree

03:25:51.120 for a man to be submissive it'd be more socially unacceptable than for a woman to do it i would still

03:25:57.940 do it for the perfect woman because i can tell you first off no one's perfect and there's look in

03:26:05.380 relationships you make um you make trade-offs so in terms of you're not going to probably get the

03:26:14.000 mat i don't know if i'm not comfortable doing it i don't want to do it like that's tough yeah that's

03:26:18.180 fine but i i it's interesting to me like even that super like can i ask you a question would you like a

03:26:24.240 guy uh to to be chivalrous yeah okay so you like everyone wants that right women want it men don't

03:26:31.740 well yeah have any expectation for women to be chivalrous um do you want a guy to like uh i don't

03:26:37.620 know maybe there's different forms of it uh open the car door for you okay you want a guy to observe

03:26:45.080 the sidewalk rule so when you're walking down the street he's closer to where the cars are yeah okay

03:26:50.100 do you want a guy to pay for the first date yeah second date yeah all dates preferably okay all right

03:26:59.340 so interesting that's it's interesting um what's some other chivalry i'm surprised too yeah would you

03:27:06.080 want a guy to like pick you up for a date like he picks you up or yeah i don't know the act of

03:27:10.940 balance i don't know personally for me it just feels like degrading if that makes sense well how so

03:27:15.500 just like i don't know i just feel like do you want to get married one day yeah sure okay

03:27:19.880 maybe i don't do you want him to buy you a ring yeah okay does it you do you care if it's some

03:27:25.480 people there's like really cheap like 20 dollar rings on amazon would that bother you

03:27:29.820 like the tradition would be to you know some people go overboard but the tradition is to spend

03:27:36.720 you know buy a nice ring right maybe it's a couple hundred maybe it's in the thousands as long as it

03:27:42.420 comes with thought and like they know what i like like and stuff do you want a man to get down on one

03:27:46.240 knee when he proposes to you doesn't have to well i'm assuming you want the man to propose right

03:27:50.600 right like you don't want to propose do you like you'd want the man to be the do the traditional

03:27:55.180 thing yeah so he proposes to you and part of that typically entails having the ring and getting down

03:28:03.520 on one knee right why is this not degrading it's an act of chivalry like do you think bowing is an

03:28:09.540 act of shift i mean i guess well women don't do that but i think women will show their submission

03:28:14.020 in various ways but uh and but you probably completely reject being submissive in a relationship

03:28:19.100 but i would say that i actually think that getting down on one knee kneeling is way uh well physically

03:28:28.140 it's it's way more submissive and i think it's way more degrading than a bow at least a bow you stay

03:28:35.780 on your feet kneeling is some no it's pussy shit that's that's i think it's degrading to be honest

03:28:43.340 i think it's more gentleman like but like in comparison like don't you think like the majority

03:28:46.640 of people would think like proposing getting on one knee and like that's more like chivalrous and

03:28:51.500 gentlemen comparison to like you're getting your girlfriend to bow for you you know well i think

03:28:57.900 it's within the purview of chivalry but if we're looking at the actual action and i i think i'm

03:29:04.440 understanding you're you're saying that okay people at least in western cultures don't bow

03:29:09.260 like white people don't bow um although they're like historically if we're looking at like kings

03:29:16.300 and whatever yes that people did bow but that's besides the point uh whereas like it is the it is

03:29:21.760 a tradition even today when a man's proposing to a woman to get down on one knee right it's not

03:29:28.040 it's deemed like a socially acceptable hip behavior whereas the bow is not but the bow is really just a

03:29:34.520 litmus test for are you willing to do a completely benign harmless thing if your man asks for it

03:29:43.980 i just don't think i'm comfortable doing it that's but what can you can you if i'm uncomfortable

03:29:49.680 in a situation like i don't want to do it but demonstrate the harm it's harm for me like i just

03:29:54.700 don't feel like it just doesn't feel right in my head to do it but demonstrate yeah okay but what is

03:29:58.880 the harm like physical or like well uh what would the actual harm be just feel like not like i don't

03:30:06.360 i don't know i just i think we're watching cognitive dissonance in real time i think that's what it is

03:30:11.480 it's you want and i've been there too you want the chivalry and the feminism but that's not it's not a

03:30:17.840 reality you're gonna have to war with that idea and you're gonna have to come to a a winner of the

03:30:22.680 of the battle you can't say i want all the chivalrous stuff but your husband asked you to do one

03:30:26.740 one minor you know subservient act and you're like no why would i do that well why would we

03:30:33.800 expect him to open your car door stand on the side and do this well i don't expect him to do it i would

03:30:38.360 prefer him to do it but it's the same thing he would prefer me to bow but i don't want to do that

03:30:42.060 so well i i mean i argue most of the men that you go out with pretty much are not going to hold you to

03:30:47.900 any sort of traditional expectations well yeah yeah right like here's my question like all those but but

03:30:55.140 all those things that we just listed what is the commensurate thing that women can do

03:31:01.140 that that would be i'm not saying that the woman has to open the car door but what is the commensurate

03:31:06.800 thing the equivalent thing that women can do so how do you be chivalrous to a man well not chivalrous

03:31:14.420 but what so if women have the expectations what are the expectations or what what do women do

03:31:23.940 i mean like nothing no they they obviously do stuff which is what they could what do you do what i do

03:31:32.860 in a relationship well what maybe not in a relationship but what are the things that women

03:31:39.020 do that are equivalent or commensurate to the various chivalrous acts that women uh want or

03:31:47.720 sometimes even demand or expect at the very forefront of dating and relationships i feel like it depends on

03:31:54.360 the person i mean they don't do anything no that's my perspective like like you i feel like usually women

03:31:59.420 like cook and stuff and like do like laundry for them yeah okay so yeah well i mean i have another

03:32:05.660 position i think the first time a girl ever comes over to my house she should do my laundry would you

03:32:11.180 do that not for me i'm just oh would you do that like first like date kind of thing not necessarily

03:32:18.760 the first date but the first time you're at his house i don't think i don't think you would do it

03:32:22.880 no but there is i wouldn't expect him to like you expect a guy to pay for your date though yeah it's

03:32:29.360 i mean would you would you really go want to go on a date with a guy that doesn't want to pay

03:32:33.900 like well i'm a man and straight so but i assume gay people go about things quite differently but

03:32:40.680 uh you're wait hold on can you repeat that last part like wouldn't you would any like woman really

03:32:48.280 want to go on a date with a guy that doesn't want to pay now we're getting somewhere interesting okay

03:32:52.580 i've paid for guys but i've paid for guys on dates too but why do you say why do you say would a woman

03:32:59.480 really want to go on a date with somebody who doesn't want to pay why is that well it's because

03:33:04.500 usually the guys are like asking you out on the date i feel like it's the mainly the respectful

03:33:08.600 thing to do have you ever asked a guy out on a date no ah okay so you're getting into whoever asks

03:33:15.060 should pay but whoever asks should pay conveniently ignores the fact that women overwhelmingly never

03:33:20.780 initiate because there's a order of things and men historically have this uh societal expectation

03:33:28.140 that they initiate like for example as a woman you can wait around and guys will come to you

03:33:33.320 whether that's in person online and you don't have to do that and you can pick amongst the men

03:33:38.580 that pursue you unless you're like a really top tier man women don't pursue so most men if if most men

03:33:48.240 did what most women do which is nothing uh they would die virgins like most men can't get away with

03:33:56.360 not taking some degree of initiative or engaging in the pursuit because women don't pursue them

03:34:03.140 yeah that's just the reality right so i guess when it comes to whoever i should pay

03:34:09.040 i would agree with that sentiment if it was the case that men and women initiated at comparable rates

03:34:16.500 even if it was maybe a bit dominated by men so if 60 percent of the time the man initiated

03:34:21.800 40 percent of the time the woman initiated i'd still be prepared to agree with that but it's

03:34:26.160 definitely not 50 50 and it's definitely not even 60 40 i think it's probably 97 to 1

03:34:32.280 100 99 men are overwhelmingly the initiators right and i don't think there's a problem with that i'm not

03:34:40.720 complaining but i do think it is sort of this you know convenient uh thing to just say well men are

03:34:49.160 if you ask somebody out well you should pay well if there's like massive social pressure that precludes

03:34:54.860 women from being initiators well i don't know if it's social pressure more so like a place of privilege

03:35:00.720 like if a girl comes to me like y'all y'all have had this shit on lock for a minute things are changing

03:35:06.800 a little bit but like you have way more leverage if you're the one being pursued you have way more

03:35:12.720 leverage women don't want to give up their leverage if a girl's coming to me i can set what it's going

03:35:20.080 to be i can dictate the terms now you can still kind of do that as the pursuer to some degree but like

03:35:26.580 if a girl's coming to you it's going to be my way things are going to be my way if a girl's coming to

03:35:33.240 me and whereas the reverse things are a little different so yeah i also think it's interesting

03:35:41.200 how like i think you kind of listed a lot of like wants and expectations from a man then you have to

03:35:47.460 really think like it's almost like why should you get that if you're not willing to like give a little

03:35:54.360 as well and i'm not even talking about finances or anything that i'm talking about again that submission

03:35:59.700 you know what i'm saying so it's like pay for this open my door protect me this this this let me but

03:36:05.240 let me do whatever i want as well but like in the context of bowing like i just i just don't feel

03:36:09.700 comfortable like i feel i don't know i just i would feel bad about myself and i i'd hope like my partner

03:36:14.640 wouldn't want me to feel bad about myself if i do this action for them so i'd hope that they'd like

03:36:19.300 understand that i you know it's i i understand that and i get the bow like culturally is peculiar

03:36:26.580 it's unorthodox it's not something that we do um but in this case something that i mean i asked about

03:36:34.580 the the cooking or the cleaning or the doing the laundry uh and what's interesting to me is and i'm

03:36:42.060 not saying this is the case for you but like you'll have women who will have no problem having

03:36:48.340 uh sex right away have uh you know and i'm not saying that that's wrong but i think it's

03:36:57.500 interesting on one hand you'll have a woman who will like give her entire body to a man like this

03:37:02.260 is one of the most intimate things you can do um although it's you know it's interesting a lot of

03:37:08.100 people for some people like it's weird like holding hands for some people is more intimate than

03:37:15.560 having sex which is kind of like or kissing well i don't think so that's crazy yeah but like

03:37:20.920 for some people sex is like this just it's like they're completely detached intimacy from it it's

03:37:27.380 just like it's just sport fucking for a lot of people to the point where okay like a man can be

03:37:34.880 inside of me but oh if i hold a guy's hand that's more intimate than sex and you're saying same with

03:37:40.420 bowing that it's almost like you're saying sex is okay but bowing isn't well the point i was

03:37:44.680 gonna make is even off of bowing but it could be related to bowing a woman will like i mean look

03:37:53.260 some people get freaky a little freaky with sex like you'll be i'm gonna be a little graphic here

03:37:58.020 but i'm being graphic not for the sake of being graphic but to drive home the point a woman will

03:38:03.540 choke on a guy's dick will have let him come inside let him come in your mouth you'll swallow his cum

03:38:09.560 you'll let him blast on your face you'll let him blast on your back you'll do back shots you'll let

03:38:13.980 him come inside your pussy uh but women draw the line at i don't cook i don't clean i won't bow i

03:38:22.180 won't do his laundry and i'm like hold on you should be doing all of it you'll well yes you should

03:38:26.980 do all of it but it's like the bow is uncomfortable but i'll let a man like i'll let a man inside of me

03:38:34.880 within 30 minutes of meeting this girl over here his load but you won't do his load yes wait wait

03:38:40.040 repeat that felicity you'll take his load but you won't do his load well put you'll take his load

03:38:44.440 but you won't do his load i feel like with dating it makes you a rare woman if you just do everything

03:38:49.720 like i'll bow then i'll fall to my knees and i'll cook and i'll clean it's like because you love them

03:38:53.900 that much like you just want to do everything for them and that you want to pay for them yeah and

03:38:58.940 honestly like the easier my man's life is the easier mine is so yeah just make them happy and it could be

03:39:05.880 like the bowing thing is like fun and cute to me and like you can make your own version of imagine

03:39:10.440 like wearing a cute little skirt or something like that i love this this is so cute and and here's the

03:39:15.640 truth with it right like i in in practice like i i actually don't care if the girl like doesn't bow

03:39:26.660 but it's her willingness to do it yes like that's actually it's not the actual act itself it's the

03:39:33.160 willingness to do it it's not like i'm some dictator it's like you didn't fucking bow to me

03:39:37.240 today no i don't give a fuck like i don't actually care but it's like it's a temperature test it's a

03:39:42.300 litmus test for like okay is she gonna acquiesce to me in other ways in the relationship and so uh but

03:39:50.680 but i mean getting off the bow because look again i get it's kind of like a bit odd it's a bit culturally

03:39:56.140 doesn't make sense um but like you mentioned how you wouldn't do a guy's laundry on the first date

03:40:02.720 or not the first day the first time you're at his house right um but you expect a guy to pay for the

03:40:08.300 first date right and i was thinking about this and i think the easiest way i can like so okay you're

03:40:14.300 dating college guys right sure college men people in college are not typically known for being

03:40:19.480 particularly high earners uh maybe they have parents money whatever whatever let's say the guy

03:40:25.380 makes 20 an hour probably good chance like a lot of guys in college make less than 20 an hour

03:40:30.220 here in california we have a minimum wage that's pretty decent maybe it's 16 17 18 19 whatever

03:40:35.800 when you ask a guy and look i know i i'm you seem reasonable i'm not i don't get the impression that

03:40:43.520 you're expecting a guy to take you on you know some super 500 dinner right you're probably fine with

03:40:48.940 maybe some pizza or chilis or some shit right but i don't know maybe i'm wrong but i think like if you

03:40:56.080 go to chilis right you go to chilis on the date which i think most women are not going to be like

03:41:00.840 super impressed with a chilis date um but it's not exactly like okay the most

03:41:09.660 if you're gonna go do i think dinner dates are lame as fuck but if you're gonna do a dinner date

03:41:15.160 chilis is not like exactly the most impressive do you watch wicked i do thank you um but like if a

03:41:22.040 woman's expectation or maybe when you get a bit older and he takes you to a you know a medium tier

03:41:26.660 place like he's gonna spend probably at minimum a hundred dollars on the date right and you would

03:41:32.480 say okay well half of that's for him so whatever we're not going to count that but a hundred dollars

03:41:36.400 on a date is going to be like one or two drinks an appetizer main course dessert and tip right

03:41:42.000 a guy's gonna i don't think it's complete i don't think it's unreasonable to expect a guy's

03:41:47.560 gonna pay a hundred dollars on the first date that's super reasonable especially in this economy

03:41:51.700 if the guy makes twenty dollars an hour and he's spending a hundred dollars on a date

03:41:56.980 for the total the total date that's five hours of work he has to do just for your portion though

03:42:04.900 to be fair that's two and a half hours of work if he's making twenty dollars an hour

03:42:07.740 so i'm thinking like hold on and i don't think it's rare for women to expect men to pay for first

03:42:15.960 dates in fact some women maybe it's not a deal breaker if you go 50 50 some women definitely a

03:42:20.760 deal breaker if it's the standard that women say you need to pay for the first date that translates

03:42:28.260 to you need to work two and a half hours to take me out and what if the guy works a labor job what if

03:42:37.020 he's his job is difficult what if his job is i don't know what if he's a janitor what if he's

03:42:43.600 cleaning bathrooms what if construction or yeah i mean or he works a restaurant job and he's

03:42:48.060 fucking running around cleaning tables and shit and he has to all the shit that he has to do in

03:42:55.100 the restaurant or yeah construction he's breaking his body i start to think like you know the bow

03:43:01.520 seems like kind of a small ass compared to the ask of women go work two hours to take me on a date

03:43:07.140 i mean that's that's the entailment of men should pay on first dates you work two hours to take me

03:43:13.780 on a date like if i told you no you don't have to bow but go dig a ditch for two and a half hours

03:43:22.040 then we can go on the date you would laugh at me be like the fuck i'm not gonna do that right

03:43:27.360 i mean i don't really know like yeah like totally like i mean if he can't if he can't pay then like

03:43:36.800 he can't pay like as long as like i'm having fun on the date and then if he communicates with me

03:43:41.720 beforehand like hey like i'm sorry like i can't pay and stuff i'd be like okay that's totally fine

03:43:45.780 we can do something else or we can do something that well i mean if he can't pay you should probably

03:43:49.600 plan something for free but right but it was your position earlier i understand there can be

03:43:56.440 circumstances where you would go on a date with a guy and you guys maybe he doesn't have money and

03:44:01.260 you would i mean you're in college that's i don't think it's peculiar that most college a lot of college

03:44:07.040 guys don't have money yeah um you'd go do something for free but you still did say you have some

03:44:14.260 expectation that the guy would pay for dates yeah for sure right but that expectation built into it is

03:44:20.300 okay if he's going to spend 20 40 50 for your portion of the date which i don't think is an

03:44:26.800 unreasonable number for a guy to spend on the date that means working one two three four hours

03:44:32.700 to take you on the date so it's like why are women allowed to have these expectations but it's like

03:44:39.140 weird and icky for guys to be like you should bow you should do the laundry like the bow like well

03:44:45.780 you but you wouldn't do the laundry the first time you go to a guy's house which could be the

03:44:49.360 second third fourth don't you think it's a little weird he would ask me to bow on the first date

03:44:53.700 though yeah i'm granting that it's weird but when it comes to the laundry you said you wouldn't do

03:44:58.280 that yeah i think i think it's weird that like if like i went over to a guy's house and he'd be like

03:45:04.420 oh can you do my laundry i'd be like no maybe if i were in like a long-term relationship with him and

03:45:08.960 i lived with him yeah for sure so should men wait until they're in long-term relationships

03:45:13.980 and only start paying for dates then i mean no i do know i mean should men withhold chivalry

03:45:24.380 until the girlfriend or sorry until the woman's his girlfriend i don't think they would get into

03:45:28.920 a relationship so they didn't have chivalry though yes yeah that's it you're right yeah you're spot on

03:45:35.200 the men have to front load men have to front load all the traditional gender roles or whatever they

03:45:42.420 have to front load it and some women are okay now that we're in a relationship now we can be more 50

03:45:47.880 50 some women do that although some women still have the expectation that it continue on in perpetuity

03:45:53.860 but it's interesting so i guess the question again though comes to what do women do

03:46:00.800 what do you want them to do like well i'm asking you though i'm asking you i know what i want women

03:46:07.940 to do like what do i do what what do what do you do what do any women do really

03:46:13.840 you probably like paint his fingernails or something what the fuck he probably like paints his fingernails

03:46:21.300 like if you're being pursued that's a liberal joke like if you're the one being pursued what are you

03:46:30.080 supposed to do i'm glad you like that yeah i mean because usually women are not the ones pursuing

03:46:36.140 so i mean i don't know what we're supposed to do in like the beginning talking stage i know what to do

03:46:42.300 in like a relationship but if you're being pursued i don't i don't know what to do you could also pay

03:46:48.440 50 50 well that is the i would say that that is in fact the dynamic is that there isn't really

03:46:54.180 an expectation on what women should do i think they that there would be like a degree of submissive of

03:47:00.840 not being a pain in the ass making yourself available yeah being actually yeah but acquiescing

03:47:07.880 and i did that and deferring to him but i would argue like i mean shit if uh the first time a girl

03:47:12.800 comes over to my house yeah she should do the laundry well you know my take on that well you

03:47:19.360 would do it but whatever yeah i mean i i like to be i like to make his life convenient if he's

03:47:26.200 working to pay for the date he's probably not gonna have time to do his own laundry so

03:47:30.560 i get that help him out if he really needs help yeah yeah plus it's kind of fun put some music on

03:47:36.720 i enjoy doing laundry the bow thing is just to see if she'll do one really easy effortless

03:47:42.900 uh completely benign thing just to make her man happy that's it i'll do it regardless of how silly

03:47:50.940 it how silly it is um how about here here's a question um i have can i ask a question brian yeah

03:48:00.760 go ahead it's an it's in line with what you're asking but i have i have a feeling that it's the

03:48:05.620 bowing it's some type of showing some type of submission that you just don't feel like he's

03:48:11.400 owed yet right it's you're not subordinate to him you're his equal you don't want him to think that

03:48:16.100 you're less than him is that where we're going is that just not comfortable with doing it like if i

03:48:20.260 don't want to do it i don't i don't want to do it but i'm not i'm not so what if and i don't know

03:48:26.280 you very well what if he had a he got some driving tickets like speeding tickets and he had to take

03:48:31.900 some tests what are called a defensive driving tests online and he's like well can you take

03:48:37.100 the tests for me while we're on a date at home like i have to finish these tests otherwise i can't do x y

03:48:42.620 and z would you take those defensive driving courses online for him no you wouldn't i don't i don't think

03:48:48.940 no i wouldn't i mean he got the ticket he should do it i mean like i have my own life i have to do

03:48:55.580 other things but you're like with him y'all are dating and he's like oh i can't go i can't go on the

03:48:59.680 date because i got to take these tests and um we're hanging out anyways will you take these tests

03:49:05.220 for me no i wouldn't you would tell him no i won't no is it like are you saying like he's busy working

03:49:11.780 and that's why he doesn't have time like he can't go on the date because yeah he can't he wants to

03:49:16.160 take you out you're like hey i'm here to go out on our date and he's like well i can't go out on the

03:49:20.300 date because i've got to take these defensive driving courses and otherwise i can't do whatever

03:49:24.680 and you're like well i'll and you're over he's like well can you help me with them i've got to

03:49:29.500 do this and do this and then maybe we can go on a date or but i have to get this done can you help

03:49:33.940 me with it i haven't studied i would i mean i wouldn't know what he like i would i have to

03:49:39.660 but he knows but you're smarter than him you are unequivocally smarter than him he knows that he

03:49:45.180 picked the right girlfriend could you help him and take this for him and show him that you're going

03:49:50.640 to help him take these i think i would help him but i wouldn't like take so you would help him yes

03:49:54.180 i would help him yeah but like it's like i would help him with other stuff too but i just like the

03:50:00.140 valiant thing like i just can't but you but you would help him take those online courses i would

03:50:04.940 help him but i wouldn't do it for him i feel like it's like like like if he told me like oh sit down

03:50:09.960 take it for me instead of me like him and i sitting side by side and i'm like okay like this is like

03:50:14.980 why this so y'all will sit side by side on your day you say hey in lieu of the date we're going to

03:50:19.000 take this test since he can't take me out on this test on this date you always reschedule a date you

03:50:24.100 know i mean but you would stay with him and take the test with him yeah okay so you do have some

03:50:33.020 traditional gender expectations of men do you think and you and i'm assuming you're totally fine with

03:50:39.700 that yeah like you want that even is it okay for men to have traditional gender expectations of women

03:50:45.380 depends what they are being submissive i

03:50:48.560 like what what would be a one uh it's the same thing with men like it depends like what they are

03:50:55.720 like you know what do you mean like you're saying like if i like if men should have traditional

03:51:00.940 expectations of women it's the same thing like with men like it depends it depends what they are for

03:51:04.480 them well i don't i don't even know the traditional gender expectations that women have

03:51:09.040 uh that that they have of men that they've abandoned in at any point so like the the traditional order

03:51:18.000 of things women haven't relinquished any of their demands for men but it seems like women definitely

03:51:24.860 want men to relinquish traditional demands of women but so what are the are there any like okay i guess

03:51:33.780 if there's a traditional expectation on men what can men

03:51:40.620 expect from women are we allowed to have expectations of women yeah of course okay what

03:51:49.360 are those things care for them like that goes both ways yeah exactly but so when we're talking about

03:51:55.400 gender roles then we're we're talking about thing man does and then thing woman does so caring for

03:52:02.320 each other's goes both ways right um but i can list things that are completely exclusive to men

03:52:08.760 that women seem to one directionally care about so it's like okay paying for the date well in order

03:52:15.120 for somebody only one person can pay for the date well you can go 50 50 but typically men don't have

03:52:20.440 an expectation that the woman pays for the entire date the same way that women expect men to pay for

03:52:24.840 the entire date okay all those other acts of chivalry that we talked about opening the car door being a

03:52:30.840 provider being a protector continuing continuing to pay for dates observing the sidewalk rule

03:52:35.620 these are like one these are one directional unilateral expectations that women place on men

03:52:43.500 that i think would fall under like a traditional gender role expectation so what women have said i think

03:52:51.160 is i want to be a modern woman i want i think it goes like this i want the benefits of modernity

03:52:59.240 i want the benefits of traditional treatment i want to reject though the uh i women want to also

03:53:10.080 coincidingly reject perhaps ways in which traditional gender roles don't uh hmm are not beneficial to them

03:53:21.740 so i think though that that's a raw deal for men why is it that even modern women are still holding men

03:53:35.480 to traditional gender role expectations but women get to completely uh completely abandon abandon any sort

03:53:44.960 of traditional expectation on their end i feel like not all women do i mean obviously you have though

03:53:51.780 i have yeah but but do you think that's fair i mean fair in like in what sense like it's because you

03:53:58.340 expect a man to be very traditional but you're not like willing like you seem very unwilling to even

03:54:05.840 entertain the idea of being a traditional woman so you're you're wanting full freedom but wanting

03:54:12.880 expectation from the man at the same time like it it's gonna clash no matter what yeah well i feel

03:54:20.100 like it's what we talked about and stuff like i'd obviously like sit with a man and like help him with

03:54:24.560 stuff so it's like i'm not expecting him to be like like all like all the time like paying for my food

03:54:31.980 like all that stuff it's like obviously would split stuff and like but i think it makes sense

03:54:36.200 it does okay in regard to what to try and bring it full circle circle i think it's what do women

03:54:42.460 have to offer and even in a dating format we have our submissiveness to offer that that's a power that

03:54:49.180 we do have to give because we don't expect them to pay or we expect them to pay we expect them to

03:54:55.340 protect us we expect all these things that are like it's like it's intuitive for you're like well of

03:55:00.200 course a woman wants her the guy to do that wouldn't you go you wouldn't go out on a date with the guy

03:55:04.120 well why like have you asked yourself why do i assume all these properties for this guy and give

03:55:09.420 him literally nothing well what do you like for like what do you what are qualities of like submissives

03:55:14.920 like to you just so i can understand that so that example i gave you was a little it was it was so

03:55:19.420 specific because it actually happened okay and i in the means like while it was happening i didn't

03:55:23.340 think about it but the way we behaved with each other he was deciding this is the type of person i want

03:55:29.460 to be my wife who i want to raise my children she's competent she's really smart but she's also

03:55:35.360 willing to like help me and wash my dishes and do my laundry and she's even doing all these other

03:55:42.780 things but she's not saying she's too big or too bold or too great to do these things for me and over

03:55:48.480 time that added up in his mind he was willing to just pay for everything even though he had no money

03:55:53.360 at all at all for a very long time he was willing to do all those things because i was i didn't know

03:55:59.300 what i was doing but i was giving a little bit and he was giving a little bit but i was just giving what

03:56:04.540 i could as a woman and he was giving what he could as a man right and like i feel like i would definitely

03:56:09.740 like do those kinds of actions if like i was in like a really long-term relationship but like what

03:56:14.580 you said if like i was going over to his house for the first time i i wouldn't want to do his laundry

03:56:19.140 but why not i just if i don't know the guy like if i'm why are you going to his house if you don't

03:56:24.840 know him don't people go on i don't go to any guy's house that i don't know i wouldn't if you i feel

03:56:31.260 like that's like the like modern thing like a lot of people go over for like for their first date

03:56:35.860 no but like like we're hoping that by the time you're going to his house there's like some sort

03:56:42.760 of rapport established like some sort of like relationship or some sort of not not full-blown

03:56:49.120 relationship but just it's not just like yeah like i'm not just meeting you today and at your

03:56:54.300 house like it's further than that you get what i'm saying i feel like it well for me i feel like

03:57:00.240 i'd have to start with we're both doing the laundry together and then when it gets to that point like

03:57:05.240 i could i would do that you're a feminist no i i'd say like not like extreme but like you should

03:57:12.040 you want equality you want you want i mean i'm just hearing i didn't want to label you feminist but

03:57:16.620 a lot of what you're saying is it needs to be equal it needs to be equal but i don't think

03:57:21.300 you're understanding how you're describing it isn't as equal as you're thinking it is in your

03:57:25.060 mind no i understand so yeah yeah i'm just trying to like get my like i would do those actions if

03:57:30.260 he would work with me on them like so we laundry we do like laundry together at first and then like

03:57:36.760 if i enjoy doing the laundry and stuff and even if he asked me he's like hey can you do the laundry

03:57:41.180 this time obviously i would and yeah and then it'll and then all the time things will be 50 50

03:57:45.240 just 50 50 is going to be the basis of y'all's relationship it doesn't have to be 50 no no but

03:57:50.460 that's what's your but that's the but that's what i'm trying to say so it's like so that means like

03:57:55.100 the 50 50 laundry 50 50 dates so that's just that's going to be the yeah okay i mean i've been

03:58:01.080 in relationships like that that before and it's totally fine with me you know i guess here's my

03:58:06.000 perspective like do you want a guy to lead in the relationship i mean

03:58:10.780 here's a bit of a super quick test though um and leading in a relationship is a bit different

03:58:21.700 than the initiative taker but i think these are somewhat related and interconnected so do you want

03:58:27.660 a guy to make the first move yeah yeah well i mean you said you've never asked a guy out so

03:58:33.880 i mean it occurs to me that because of this de facto you do want a guy to well yeah but like i'm

03:58:42.600 like do you mean like asking them to make like or like pushing them to make the first move or just

03:58:46.440 like naturally like because like what well i mean how would you so you would walk up to a guy and be

03:58:51.420 like hey you should hit on me like that would be you making the first no but like giving them the

03:58:56.000 attention to make the first move well that would be you taking okay that would be you first move

03:59:02.660 that would be you making the first move but i mean has that been the case for you you're like

03:59:06.520 hey buddy no can you no yeah so okay you want a guy to make the first move do you want a guy

03:59:12.340 so that could be like have you ever been like approached after a class or on school or at a party

03:59:16.500 or something like this yeah right um or maybe they slide into a dm or have you had a dating app

03:59:21.520 before no okay no dating apps but you've maybe had a guy slide into your dms yeah has that gone

03:59:26.760 anywhere or no uh i usually don't respond okay so you meet people organically in person yeah okay

03:59:33.500 so from there i'm assuming okay let's say a guy who you do think is cute comes up to you

03:59:39.900 you want him to initiate beyond just hi like you probably want him to carry the conversation a little

03:59:45.360 bit fair yeah okay then i'm assuming you want him to ask for your number yeah get social media

03:59:50.760 whatever and then he probably has to make the first move text you first i mean it depends on who gets

03:59:55.640 the number because some like i mean the girl can know the girl can ask too it doesn't like do you

03:59:59.840 though most of the time the guy asks for the number yeah most of the time yeah okay and then from there

04:00:04.900 he's most of the time the guy is going to be like hey we should hang out this day so something like

04:00:10.460 that right to that effect okay from there then you meet up with him and then from there i'm assuming

04:00:15.780 he's going to maybe he sets the plan meet me here this time blah blah blah um from there moving

04:00:22.580 things forward um whether it's the first set and you can watch rinse repeat the step until you're

04:00:28.280 comfortable enough or whatever but moving things forward do you want him to initiate the first kiss

04:00:32.500 yeah okay like have you been the one who goes in or does i mean i feel like it's like i like have

04:00:39.700 both you know girls say that but i don't know it's too like girls say that like to process it i feel

04:00:47.360 like usually the guy usually the guy yeah going i get that you meet yeah you go into but the guy is

04:00:54.080 going to initiate it so um uh and then moving things forward from there physically i'm assuming

04:00:59.740 you have some expectation that the guy move things forward from there like physically yeah physically

04:01:05.480 like you know whatever you're hooking up whatever um okay so in at least in that dynamic you do want

04:01:13.720 that i mean that's a major component of traditional gender roles that often gets like overlooked because

04:01:20.000 that's actually i personally think the burden of initiative is kind of a massive component and

04:01:25.880 massive bur i don't want to frame it like a burden but it is something that kind of uniquely typically

04:01:32.140 falls on men yeah um now for the most part so

04:01:37.180 my perspective is is as women if you want men to be leaders and take initiative

04:01:44.480 i think that one that ought to continue into the course throughout the course of the relationship

04:01:50.160 and i think most women do want that to continue through the course of the relationship but if you

04:01:55.020 want a guy to be a leader you need to be a follower like i can't lead somebody who like in it if i

04:02:02.200 compare it to a dance there's a leader and a follower you can't have two people leading in the dance

04:02:06.820 you're gonna trip over each other's toes uh in a relationship i feel it's the same way i'm not

04:02:12.820 saying the man's a dictator i'm not saying he's a tyrant i'm not saying you're you can't give uh you

04:02:18.980 can't you know i'm gonna completely ignore all your opinions and etc but i don't like in order for me to

04:02:26.880 have responsibility in a relationship i need some level of authority in that relationship so if i'm and

04:02:34.020 also if like men's traditional roles are protecting and that's not just like if i'm gonna protect it's

04:02:40.220 not just like some guy's gonna mug us it's not just physical protection it's protecting the

04:02:45.700 relationship it's protect protecting you in spirit protecting you in mind and i do think talking about

04:02:52.100 like people have bad habits and shit i do think it's the case sometimes women have dated guys who

04:02:59.420 either were uh doormats or they dated guys who were a bit weak and women might have might be a

04:03:05.740 bit lippy or might be a little sassy or might be xyz with with a guy and you gotta tell her like

04:03:13.760 that's not how it's gonna be with me but in addition to that there's certain like you and i think you're

04:03:19.520 you're probably gonna disagree with me on this and look i think it's a perhaps an age difference here

04:03:25.580 too because i think when you're in college people like to party and drink and whatever but if you're

04:03:30.800 in a relationship with a guy say you really liked him you've been dating him for a year and you're

04:03:35.200 you you're in a sorority so you go to parties i'm imagining if your boyfriend was like you're asking

04:03:41.240 him hey um what do you think about this outfit and he's like too revealing don't want you to wear it

04:03:46.120 would you would you be a uh a front is fronted is that the fucking word affronted would you be

04:03:53.340 not up front but would you be take a front to your boyfriend saying hey i don't want you to wear that

04:03:59.960 i'd be a little like upset would it be controlling yeah okay what about if he was like hey um

04:04:08.140 that's hard because i i want to be charitable with the age difference when people are 18 19 20 21

04:04:14.040 whatever they're partying although there's women that age who don't party and drink or whatever

04:04:18.200 but if your boyfriend was like hey look maybe you can envision yourself when you're a bit older and

04:04:23.740 you're mid to late 20s and your boyfriend who you really like and you think he's a great guy maybe

04:04:28.660 he's even the one he's like hey i don't want you going out to bars i don't want you going out to clubs

04:04:33.680 what's your response i feel like i'd have to have like i try to understand his point of view

04:04:40.900 but also i like i feel like that's like a lack of trust on his part because lack of trust i've been

04:04:47.180 like obviously i'm going to be loyal to him when i go out and stuff but i do want to have like i'm

04:04:52.080 going to go out with my girlfriends obviously but i want to yeah yeah he doesn't want you to do that

04:04:56.200 though you can go get brunch with your girlfriends you can go get you you want to go get a dinner with

04:05:00.980 your girlfriends he doesn't want you at the bar he doesn't want you at the club

04:05:04.080 you don't like it do you it's like i don't prefer it you don't prefer it i don't prefer it right

04:05:11.240 what does a bar and a club have for you there that like brunch or a nice dinner or like on

04:05:19.880 there's like christmas like like what is it about a bar and a club that makes it like

04:05:26.100 like for you that like yeah what what is that like how does that add to your life like what's

04:05:33.220 the benefit of a bar having fun with my friends like you know like but why does it have to be that

04:05:37.620 and like how does that allow you guys to be like progress like progressive life like you can have

04:05:44.220 brunch with your girlfriends where you guys are discussing your potential law school or things

04:05:48.980 like that like isn't that more like beneficial to you as like a whole individual it could be

04:05:56.000 beneficial but it's like it's not for the benefit it's i just want to have fun let me ask you this

04:06:00.440 so you're dating a guy you're in your mid-20s late 20s uh and he wants to go to the strip club with his

04:06:05.960 boys do you have an issue with it the cognitive dissonance you're struggling with that thought because

04:06:13.880 you're like why would he dare go to the strip club but why would you go well let's get the answer

04:06:18.440 first but would you have an issue with it he wants to go then he wants to go i trust him

04:06:23.180 but it's not ideal though it's not ideal but like i'm not going to be like no you can't go

04:06:28.360 you know what i mean like well i think in in relationships there are instances where you can

04:06:34.380 say i don't want you to do that yeah like i don't want you to fuck that person right obviously right

04:06:40.800 don't have sex with that person you know um otherwise i won't be here but um and what if he said no

04:06:47.580 then i break up with him but look and or not break like what do you mean like like no to the

04:06:55.840 client no you're like not going no no so say like how he was saying like there's going to be things

04:07:00.680 that you're not going to want your significant other to do and what if he looked at you in your

04:07:05.320 face and was like well that makes me uncomfortable i like to look at ass on the pole i want to go because

04:07:11.120 my boys are going i don't care how you feel this is just what you're gonna like this is what i'm doing

04:07:16.400 like it doesn't it that doesn't sound good does it no it doesn't and like obviously we'd have

04:07:21.940 like a conversation about it but it's like okay like if he's if he wants to go then i can't stop him

04:07:27.220 like you know he's gonna make his own just decisions he's a grown adult and you're you're

04:07:31.220 you're gonna be okay with that and i'm just asking just to understand no yeah i mean obviously

04:07:35.960 like it's gonna make me a little bit uncomfortable but like i can't stop a person doing something

04:07:41.460 that they want to do right just like he i guess he wouldn't be able to stop you from going to the

04:07:45.680 club or the bar so you guys are just gonna we're just gonna go to the club and bar and strip clubs

04:07:50.300 that's just healthy so healthy so fun so loving i mean we're in our in our 20s i mean like i don't

04:07:56.820 want to like you could be serious in your 20s as well i don't know if i want to be though like fair

04:08:02.220 you know like i don't i don't even know if i like want to like relationship but i mean even besides

04:08:07.480 like a relationship i think that the things that you do in your free time are gonna benefit or set

04:08:13.620 you back on the things that you want to do you know so i just don't think there's any benefit to

04:08:18.820 the club and and the bar and honestly if i could go back in time i would take a lot of party in a way

04:08:24.760 yes so that's fair i i guess um i don't know that we we've been like kind of jumping around from

04:08:33.120 different topic to different topic but trying to think here i was going to tie it back into the

04:08:41.300 like for the perfect man would you not work or whatever i guess when it relates to we were talking

04:08:48.180 about being submissive and traditional gender roles and all this stuff i do think that like you

04:08:55.620 wouldn't be submissive it sounds like to your boyfriend or future husband like you'd want a more

04:09:01.140 50 50 equality dynamic is that fair to say i'm just not that type of submit like i'm not as i don't

04:09:06.880 think i'm a submissive person really i guess here's what when i was asking earlier though like for a

04:09:12.140 perfect guy and he's rich and you never have to work and i understand that career can meet more than

04:09:20.840 just a financial need it can meet a fulfillment need you can feel like you're you're doing something

04:09:26.600 it can keep you busy it can sometimes it can be fun exciting whatever but also a lot of times it's a

04:09:32.080 lot of work especially as a lawyer there's a lot of you know a lot of paperwork it can be stressful

04:09:37.360 long hours etc etc uh and some of it might be undesirable work right but in totality you would

04:09:45.280 say well in totality i i want to do it right but even looking at other jobs you're working in some

04:09:52.920 corporation whatever the reason i asked that question of would you give up career in college

04:09:59.320 for the perfect man who's rich is i think that women have traded because they don't want well i mean

04:10:08.760 there's other components here women you you have traded being submissive to a husband to being

04:10:14.180 submissive to an employer to a boss to a corporation right and it's it's interesting to me though

04:10:24.740 because on one hand i i think that a husband typically and i think a lot of men are especially

04:10:33.540 today are not at all demanding and many men are doormats and i think a lot of women fucking run

04:10:40.140 their relationships not gonna lie but even then if you were to come across a guy who was one of the

04:10:47.340 more uh traditional dynamic were you more submissive women still wouldn't make the trade but it's i'm

04:10:56.160 trying to think the best way to phrase this i think a corporation is going to be more cold than

04:11:02.700 the husband i think a corporation is going to ask you for more than your husband the corporation your

04:11:07.740 boss is going to say show up at 6 a.m at 7 a.m 8 a.m wear this i mean that's that's literally work

04:11:16.220 wear a uniform we say yes wear a uniform like most men maybe if the guy's like hey just don't wear

04:11:22.620 revealing but wear whatever the fuck you want like he's not going to be like okay you have to wear a

04:11:27.240 blouse today you have to wear whatever like most men you have kind of freedom in terms of selection

04:11:32.420 but if a guy's like hey i don't i don't want you to wear like go out in public with your ass hanging

04:11:37.360 out um which a lot of women do uh that's somehow an issue but of course that would never fly in the

04:11:43.960 workplace like if your job was like look we don't want you to you know we need you to dress modestly

04:11:49.700 in the workplace yeah yes sir yes boss even like super liberal women they're gonna be like oh of course

04:11:55.800 like in a professional workplace setting i'm gonna wear like a suit or whatever whatever women wear

04:12:00.780 like a dress skirt whatever um but like your boyfriend doesn't want you to go to the club

04:12:06.300 with your titties popping out and you're fucking wearing a mini skirt whoa okay that's controlling

04:12:11.880 you've traded submission from your husband your boyfriend to your employer your employer says

04:12:18.900 clean that mess up if you were if you're uh you're working a restaurant clean that up first day go deal

04:12:24.100 with them clean that up scrub the dishes or you know doing whatever um clean up the mess uh you know

04:12:30.580 do this do that do that do that i think a husband a boyfriend is gonna ask you for a lot less

04:12:35.260 and uh i don't know you guys have traded it you've traded it honestly that's such a great perspective i

04:12:43.100 never actually thought about it in that way but honestly like everything that you said that you're

04:12:47.320 willing to do and what you're not willing to do is literally submitting to a job and submitting to

04:12:52.640 professionalism but but the the job doesn't love you the job is not going to care about you like that

04:12:58.180 the job is not going to care if you're sick the job is not going to care if your mom gets cancer

04:13:02.760 they'll fire you yeah but you know who are you're you're having bad period cramps your job does not

04:13:09.520 care but your husband would

04:13:12.360 your cold corporation the cold corporation that you know they'll look and look i'll be charitable here

04:13:21.820 yeah you could marry a guy who whatever he divorces you that could happen too you could lose the

04:13:27.520 marriage um but just like with a job you can like women will say in response to well okay but your

04:13:33.600 husband could leave you okay well your job could fire you well you can find a new job well you can

04:13:39.060 find a new husband yeah um but it's like i think this idea of like a rejection of a more submissive

04:13:47.340 dynamic in a relationship it's like okay you've great so okay you won't date the millionaire guy who

04:13:54.740 in this hypothetical scenario you won't do it for the the millionaire guy who treats you perfectly

04:14:00.640 perfectly loyal will never leave you you never have to work a day in your life you never have to

04:14:05.360 lift a finger or you'll be like a i mean i'm thinking of like the the waitress who makes like 15

04:14:17.600 dollars an hour and she's like busting tables and taking order taking order like meal orders not

04:14:25.160 orders orders uh they're the she's cleaning shit up fucking busting her ass and like that girl she'll

04:14:33.160 do that but like a a guy comes along hey i'm doing well you don't have to work let me take care of you

04:14:39.640 oh it's like an affront oh my god my feminist brain can't comprehend i don't know it's interesting

04:14:47.320 it's i just want it is backwards it's so anti-family as well absolutely anti-tradition it's like you take

04:14:54.680 both parents out of the home yeah yeah yeah um i don't know shit okay well uh food for thought food

04:15:04.140 for thought look i'm not saying uh it's it's been a massive trade though in society i'm not saying

04:15:10.040 that we should that i think it's that i'm not saying that women shouldn't be allowed to work or

04:15:15.600 anything like that i'm just saying i'm speaking descriptively so descriptively it is the case

04:15:20.600 that although look uh this idea that women were 100 precluded from working in the 1920s 30s 40s 50s

04:15:30.560 that's bullshit um that that's that's bs this idea that women couldn't work complete bullshit now

04:15:38.820 there were some components of the economy where but like socially it was less expected of women

04:15:44.440 there was an expectation for family and children but it's it's this interesting trade it's this

04:15:51.300 interesting trade where it's like okay well uh now there's a economic reality where i mean

04:15:59.980 corporations love it the u.s government tax system loves it now they're the the cat's out of the bag

04:16:07.520 i don't think we can ever really fix this but i'm not saying women should should be prevented from

04:16:13.080 working but it's like okay now it takes two incomes to raise a house to have a household to to have a

04:16:21.500 family and people are even even if you have two incomes people are like economically looking at it

04:16:27.400 like man this is fucked up like you got two incomes and you can't even pay rent you can't buy a house

04:16:34.480 oh shit's expensive it's all fucked it's giga fucked and look i'm i'm just saying it's uh

04:16:40.680 descriptively it is the case that when you double the labor pool that's gonna uh corporations fucking

04:16:49.320 love that oh yeah and even tax system loves that yeah even the airbnb i'm in like i can see the

04:16:55.300 family it's like a husband and a wife and they still actually have to like rent out a part of

04:17:00.220 they built a tiny home in their backyard you know what i'm saying so it's like even with at this point

04:17:05.120 even with two incomes it's still not enough they're having to have a stranger sleep in their backyard

04:17:11.320 you know because i am a stranger so and so it is this it is this dilemma because obviously

04:17:18.580 obviously um you know people should have freedom and should have choice but like the old order of

04:17:28.040 things where there was uh where there was a sort of like okay the man's the breadwinner the woman

04:17:35.140 is taken care of she takes care of the kids stays at home the man goes out to work uh i think there's

04:17:44.080 something there where it's like what have been the economic manifestations of like opening the

04:17:51.960 floodgates of we're going to try this experiment where uh women are going to put off having family

04:17:58.860 having children until their late 20s early 30s and we're going to uh double the labor pool so then

04:18:08.560 which corporations love because you basically effectively cut the wage that you have to pay

04:18:14.800 people in half i'm not saying we shouldn't have done it but i'm saying here are the perhaps

04:18:22.900 unintended consequences of doubling the labor pool yeah there's like almost just exactly there's like

04:18:28.780 a surplus of workers at this point and like not enough actual like quality jobs to where one income

04:18:35.820 is okay i don't know if that makes sense but it's like now like like being an employee isn't as

04:18:42.280 valuable anymore and i well i think the other thing is uh it was something about um

04:18:50.700 like on one hand yes you've given women more choice but you've also taken the choice away from women

04:18:58.480 who wanted or who want a traditional dynamic because that's really rare now for a guy to be

04:19:05.820 able to make enough money to just be like nah you don't have to work now it's like a necessity

04:19:10.340 it's no longer women have a choice of pursuing career but there's no longer this other choice that

04:19:18.180 women used to have which was like you had a choice as a woman in the 50s in the 60s oh i'll you know

04:19:25.840 what um i'll find a guy and we'll get married and have kids and i want to stay at home that choice

04:19:32.400 has almost entirely been taken away from women yeah and even now like even some stay-at-home moms

04:19:39.160 actually still have to come up with like a passive income from home just to be able to still help like

04:19:45.360 i'm talking about even if it's baking sourdough bread they're not just doing it for their family

04:19:49.620 they're actually having to like sell it and bake 300 loaves a week like i follow these creators

04:19:55.340 i like sourdough but like the point is is even being a stay-at-home mom it's like because of the

04:20:03.460 way the economy is it's still required like that means as a stay-at-home mom i still actually have

04:20:08.460 to make passive income somehow i have to become innovative i got diapers or i got this yeah 11

04:20:14.720 year old so yeah i was a young mom but um so and even that with me like my son's father is dead

04:20:21.780 and i've had to take over so i understood when i heard that yeah so i've had to take over in ways

04:20:27.200 and let me tell you something mama tired okay i'm tired you know i don't i don't want to do this

04:20:34.400 i don't you know and you are young so i think there's some naivety and and ignorance is bliss

04:20:40.200 which is why i think you're so like you feel so strongly about having things a specific way but i

04:20:46.000 promise you as you get older you are gonna be humbled in ways that you wish you weren't you

04:20:51.820 know so yeah that's fair to say like i'm definitely like i don't know everything in the world like i'm

04:20:56.400 in college like some of the stuff that like i'm learning right now like i don't even know if it's

04:21:00.720 100 true and i just i just want you to be very open and not be so stuck in the circled reasoning of

04:21:07.860 i want what i want but and that's just it like you're gonna get stuck in a circle

04:21:13.240 and happiness is never going to be able to be attained because you're going to be trying to

04:21:18.000 fulfill yourself constantly and it's just not going to be it's you're not going to be capable

04:21:23.600 to fulfill yourself it's just there's always going to be some sort of unhappiness or something

04:21:28.340 you're looking for in some shape or form you know yeah i definitely like hear you like i i am

04:21:35.060 taking it from a different perspective now and like obviously like i'm trying to understand it

04:21:38.780 from all perspectives like obviously i know my my opinion is not going to be everyone's opinion

04:21:42.580 and also my opinion might always be the right opinion yeah so yeah and honestly i love that

04:21:47.200 that the fact that you're even willing to at least be an open is is gonna help set you apart in the

04:21:53.040 long run it might not take you 10 years it might take you two if that makes sense no i don't think

04:21:57.260 we're gonna change our mind but she's she's probably pretty firm in her her position but um i i think

04:22:05.120 that uh shit what are we gonna do the twitch yeah there's something else i needed to finish up on this

04:22:11.200 topic here i'm trying to remember um oh shit i mean even from the male perspective though um

04:22:19.460 this idea that like career and i think it this would apply more so to the men than it can to women but

04:22:26.780 this idea that career is like some ultimate fulfillment in life i don't think that's the

04:22:32.240 case i think when people are on their deathbeds i don't think they're gonna think about wow i really

04:22:36.200 close that deal or i don't know i oh my god you're gonna look back and um on your deathbed i

04:22:43.040 assuming you one day have kids or have a family or whatever i think most people man or woman they

04:22:48.960 looked they look back on their life it's gonna be family it's gonna be kids i don't think you're

04:22:54.300 gonna be thinking oh man i that one time i was on the prosecute prosecution and i uh that trial oh my

04:23:01.360 i don't think people will think like that so i think like ultimate fulfillment in life i think

04:23:06.340 is family yeah and kids think about your parents too like i'm sure when your parents are on their

04:23:11.760 deathbed they're not going to be saying oh yeah like i worked really hard at this job they're going

04:23:16.520 to be like no i had a beautiful daughter and she grew and and learned and that's what they're that's

04:23:22.840 what they're going to be very proud of at that moment it's not going to be even the financial status

04:23:27.920 that they're passing at you know no yeah for sure i just think well obviously i'm in college so my

04:23:33.580 entire life right now is the workforce and like trying to get a job trying to get that degree and

04:23:38.520 stuff so obviously i feel like when i'm older i'm definitely going to think something else of it

04:23:42.460 because i don't even know if i'm not even thinking of like marriage or kids right now or anything like

04:23:47.060 that so by design yeah yeah that's what the college is to make you think yeah career money

04:23:53.580 but we have to remember the back of your mind know that that's by design to get you

04:23:59.020 off the course it's to break the family unit absolutely yeah anyways we're i'm not trying to

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04:25:46.380 next topic i need to blast through our uh show notes here oh shit i closed it whoops one sec let

04:25:52.360 me get that going uh let's just do here we're just uh let's you're good uh we have our good friend

04:26:00.300 stifler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven uh rate

04:26:05.820 your own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with you like a six six okay

04:26:10.700 eight six

04:26:12.860 eight this question four i don't know is it are you just okay is that that's your answer sure

04:26:23.180 yeah i mean i mean it's subjective right like yeah it is subjective what's your subjective rating

04:26:29.160 five okay what about you eight eight can i pass and you can't you gotta answer why can't i pass

04:26:38.340 you're so beautiful by the way so into the mic into the mic oh i and i don't know i just this is how

04:26:43.940 i think brian i think i i you have to hear me out okay i don't think it makes it doesn't make sense

04:26:50.520 for me to judge myself what what what does it matter what i think of how i look except for

04:26:56.200 i that how i look to myself is how the i think the world sees how i look to me like that's how i

04:27:03.900 look i could say i love how i look i'm confident my mother raised a beautiful child but if i'm going

04:27:08.840 to rate it on a scale i i'd have to say how do i think others see me not how i see myself well how

04:27:15.060 do you see yourself i think i look just fine i think i look great give yourself an eight

04:27:19.480 but this is from your personal perspective so i think i am an above average so i'd say six okay

04:27:26.720 sure own it okay what about you six point five six point five okay i give myself a what did i say

04:27:33.780 oh no i i used to say uh okay i give myself a 4.75 okay that's it yeah i mean i think that's low

04:27:42.740 that seems low that seems low rate you better than that oh yeah oh thank you what do you rate me then

04:27:46.800 well including your personality well i'll do with and with that with your personality i'm gonna go

04:27:53.340 an eight you got a great personality oh shit okay there you go without without i would still say seven

04:27:59.420 all right there you go it's it's a match made in heaven uh i am gonna make you walk four hours back

04:28:07.960 it after we have sex though so just like you just heads up just heads up not again and send you

04:28:13.340 wait wait where do you live where do you live again oklahoma i'm gonna make you walk back to

04:28:18.060 oklahoma from santa barbara it's gonna be a lot longer than four hours i'm gonna tell you right now

04:28:22.860 i'll provide you with um some hot hands hand warmers or something you'll be fine it's only winter

04:28:28.440 time december um i'll just get her an uber it's an easy uber oh yeah a couple thousand a couple g's

04:28:35.900 on an uber yeah hell yeah um okay well i don't really have much pushback on the looks rating thing

04:28:41.880 what did you rate yourself again at eight oh okay

04:28:46.760 um last time i gave myself a seven you said i can't break seven

04:28:52.380 upgraded yeah you said it can't be seven uh okay um do we i guess we can rapid fire the

04:29:00.800 the okay do we have the age stuff nick no gender swaps yet

04:29:06.020 oh yeah do we have for chair one do we have age

04:29:12.620 just chair two and okay oh there's not even age progression yeah okay that's fine um those are

04:29:23.620 fine yeah that's not a big deal we'll skip that um okay uh blasting through okay we did looks we did

04:29:30.300 that uh here i'm gonna blast through the questionnaire i know you weren't here for it but i'll just ask

04:29:34.620 you the question then directly um oh god let's see starting here we're gonna start with one sec

04:29:42.960 uh do you prefer jackie or jacqueline jacqueline jacqueline am i saying it right you're french

04:29:50.300 you should be saying it like the best jacqueline yes jacqueline yes yes yes okay so you circled you

04:29:58.920 agree with the following statement women do not have equal rights to men in the usa they don't

04:30:03.360 uh how so oh we have more rights okay all right yeah you got me there i thought that was

04:30:13.480 went without saying no that was you bamboozled me there what do you think do you think men and

04:30:20.100 women have equal rights in the usa oh god um go ahead lay it on don't worry no one's gonna bully you

04:30:28.060 don't worry you're fine um i mean all i can think of it is just like the equal like pay thing

04:30:33.820 like don't isn't it yes right no yes well is there anything else besides that not that i can

04:30:39.200 think of on the top of my head okay so you would you be confident saying let's assume uh i'm not

04:30:44.760 gonna get into like a wage gap debate but let's assume that um putting that aside yeah uh would you

04:30:52.080 be prepared to say that men and women in the usa have equal rights say so yeah like i like what are

04:31:01.320 you leaning towards no or i'm assuming that's the case like a little women have more rights than than

04:31:06.800 men is that like her you agree with her no no i'm sorry uh so aside from the wage gap thing is there

04:31:14.620 anything else that you can think of that might not that i can like actually like genuinely no okay

04:31:21.240 all right um how about this one um do you think um you said you're a feminist i wouldn't say i'm

04:31:29.620 like a feminist look i i feel i feel a little bad because i feel like maybe the other people on the

04:31:34.860 panel might lean a bit more less liberal or less feminist or whatever but look we're nobody's gonna attack

04:31:43.340 you nobody's gonna hate you or whatever we're open to having differing opinions and that's 100

04:31:49.740 okay on the show for people to have different perspectives um we're not gonna dogpile you i've

04:31:55.800 just been surrounded by people that have way more extreme views than me like in terms of being more

04:32:01.200 liberal yeah liberal feminist and stuff so like i don't know i try and keep an open mind obviously

04:32:06.120 i'm gonna believe what i believe but like in these conversations like i try i really do try and

04:32:10.340 get no you seem open-minded okay pretty reasonable wait you said you're in a sorority right yeah can

04:32:15.340 you say which one uh you don't have no you don't have to i think i'm in theta kappa alpha oh yeah

04:32:21.400 theta they're pretty based they're yeah no they are they're cool i feel i don't know i feel like people

04:32:26.560 in sororities are it's okay reasonable anyways whatever i know there's there's a stereotype can i do you

04:32:34.220 know the is there a handshake like she has the dg wave is there can i do it yeah is that offensive

04:32:40.920 to like thetas or whatever am i doing it no okay you're gonna have to screenshot this and send this

04:32:46.560 to all your sisters wait am i doing it wrong are we doing gang signs right now no no that's the k

04:32:51.520 and then a oh wait we and then oh uh sure i feel like i'm gonna get jumped after this

04:32:56.900 either theta's or some gang or something um they don't even know that i'm on this so okay

04:33:02.560 i guess um no it's all good um we're i guess really rapid fire uh do you think that uh do you

04:33:09.720 think that there's a patriarchy a patriarchy evil patriarchy

04:33:14.540 no okay uh do you think women are oppressed in the usa

04:33:20.460 in like like a political way or like uh just whatever your sense of the term oppressed is

04:33:28.280 in some sort of way but not like in an like insane insane like extreme kind of way okay that's

04:33:37.860 fair i i won't i'm not gonna linger on uh those topics i will get it back more to some more dating

04:33:43.600 questions though um let's see uh actually sav let me i'm gonna do your uh hold on okay i'm gonna

04:33:52.840 do some of your notes here oh my god can we just like have you have like diabetic coma on stream

04:33:57.780 is that is that cool are you down to like push it a little bit uh i don't it's such a goblin

04:34:04.180 i'm joking maybe i'll be back one day because you were pretty nice to me you're like super nice i

04:34:12.040 don't know what all the like people that say bad things about the podcast they're such haters

04:34:15.760 like i feel like the girls people have a perception it's because they're stupid girls

04:34:19.580 saying stupid no they're not kind of i mean wow you're the misogyn you're such a misogyn

04:34:24.460 sometimes but like you're you're a femson no i'm like a red pill i'm a bit red pill but i would

04:34:32.080 say like the girls that don't know when world war one started and of course they're gonna get the

04:34:36.120 piss taken out of them come on we get taught that for like a like every single year i'm not gonna lie

04:34:40.200 i got it wrong when i was on here i did wait what state did you grow up going to elementary

04:34:44.780 school in um california oh god that's you i mean they probably have like a good system i don't know

04:34:50.100 what's wrong california lausd is not no oh is it not wait so but uh okay really quick your notes uh

04:34:57.820 you say you're latina with gamer rage hell yeah and a fat ass lols yeah and big boobies yeah well i

04:35:04.940 lost weight so that's not so true anymore the fat ass or the boobies yeah both you lost okay um have

04:35:12.280 you done any bg content no never just so not even like private i've never okay yeah gotcha you said

04:35:18.300 you've been to 30 countries correct and you've dated in these countries yeah like guys have flown

04:35:25.100 you out is that what you're saying no no no like dubai no i've never the only place in middle east i've

04:35:29.340 been in israel but i've the only place i've been in middle east is israel so none of the arab countries

04:35:35.120 actually but no i just since i do of i have a lot of money and time so i just travel and while i'm

04:35:40.940 there sometimes i'll meet someone i'd say i've maybe like dated like 10 different nationalities

04:35:47.020 yeah okay um i'm trying to see here

04:35:50.960 you're talking about how

04:35:55.240 wait how you met your boyfriend you gave him a paper with your name and number on it as his job

04:36:02.840 what does he do i don't want to say is he a waiter he is in something like similar to this field where

04:36:09.420 there's no college he's a podcaster no no no not your field i'm sorry i mean like uh are you dating

04:36:14.740 stephen crowder i don't know who this is wait are you latina what yeah you're latina i'm american

04:36:20.660 though but yes yeah yeah american first but um yeah okay well um i'm gonna come back to the

04:36:30.000 questionnaire and there's maybe a few more things in your notes but uh okay so going around the table

04:36:35.060 um let's just do show of hands just to be quick uh raise your hand if you agree uh should men pay on

04:36:42.320 first dates raise them high raise them high no i'm okay either way 50 50 or if he offers

04:36:50.300 uh should test too much uh men should provide and protect raise your hand if you agree

04:36:56.120 okay men should be chivalrous okay husband should be willing to die protecting me

04:37:04.780 oh wait i changed this one up i had a different so on the questionnaire it says take the bullet

04:37:10.680 but i actually came up with a different scenario shit wait uh okay here it is here it is um

04:37:19.920 wait first let me just say should your husband be willing to take a bullet for you

04:37:24.440 like die protecting you essentially okay yeah well because there's there's an expectation like men

04:37:33.400 should be protectors whatever i came up with a better one than the bullet though because i think the

04:37:38.040 bullet one there's a third party perpetrator i'm changing it to a better one here it is consider

04:37:48.900 a scenario a ship is sinking and only one functioning life preserver remains you're married this life

04:38:01.460 preserver can save only one person there's no work around there's no loopholes there's no additional

04:38:06.740 options you can't be like i'm gonna tread water for 12 hours you can't hang on to them you can't find

04:38:12.280 some debris from the shipwreckage there's one life preserver and yet one person essentially has to die

04:38:19.720 given that one person either the husband or the wife you in this instance must die who

04:38:28.580 should volunteer to sacrifice themselves

04:38:31.920 starting with you

04:38:35.440 uh the husband the husband okay myself you you would yes that's a tough one i think him

04:38:48.800 him okay yeah so the husband right chivalry right yeah i'm gonna say the husband too

04:38:56.820 husband would yes into the mic um husband what about you uh it's a tough yeah i mean

04:39:02.920 he better you know be offering but i'd also you know be willing to if you know it's my husband

04:39:09.060 loving my life i'd be offering to we're gonna have to rock paper scissors it i think that's fair

04:39:13.820 okay um yeah like in that moment i feel like i couldn't live with myself though like if i had to

04:39:21.300 watch him die like i just that's why i chose that's a tough one it's gonna it's gonna suck

04:39:26.340 no matter what now here's a question here's like uh another one let's say you're witnessing the

04:39:35.340 you you were on the ship and you have a life preserver but you see the ship the boat

04:39:48.060 there's a couple on the boat and there's only one life preserver left who would you judge more

04:39:56.240 harshly so this doesn't impact your your life at all would you have a harsher judgment towards one

04:40:04.120 or the other if one of them opted to take the life preserver would you so if the woman if they

04:40:12.320 make a determination that the the woman gets the life preserver or the man gets the life preserver

04:40:18.960 would you more harshly judge the man for taking the life preserver over the woman yes than the reverse

04:40:25.460 yes yes damn that's crazy um i mean i get it i think i kind of would just because you know like

04:40:34.360 he's bitch made uh well like you should die for your also a guy could swim longer too just because

04:40:40.260 of well in this scenario like let's say the water's really cold and he's like you know no one's gonna

04:40:46.080 survive right i don't freaking know that's tough well i'm not no i'm not gonna judge judge either one

04:40:52.660 like just on their gender in that situation okay i mean that it's just your two lives right there

04:41:00.280 shit's fucked up me personally even in the well i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get into the

04:41:07.480 bullet discussion but i'm taking the life jacket i feel like women judge you harshly

04:41:16.660 like i'm just like yeah you know she can die women are gonna be like yo what the fuck

04:41:21.920 what if it was your kid

04:41:24.220 that's a tough one my kid damn fuck my son or my daughter

04:41:32.060 oh damn oh shit i don't know fuck chat what do you do oh like if you had to pick between your

04:41:40.560 son or your daughter getting the life jacket i'm an honest person to a fault damn this is really

04:41:46.640 fucked up question i gotta be honest fuck that's crazy i mean if you have your same wife you could

04:41:51.220 just make another one this is so such a hard fucking question how is it so hard well okay hold

04:41:58.400 on so i would do almost anything to protect my children like i will go through pain and suffering

04:42:06.640 and i will sacrifice dearly for for my children but presented oh my god this is so fucked up but it's

04:42:14.500 like one of those this sounds so fucked up holy shit say it say it i feel like some people would

04:42:22.540 virtue signal on this and be like of course i would like let my kid live i gotta be honest

04:42:28.060 i'm taking the fucking life jacket i'm fucking taking the life jacket bro you don't have a kid

04:42:33.900 though right do you have kids yeah no yeah i feel like it would change yeah i know that sounds so

04:42:39.220 fucking bad it does i don't know it's like it's like would you rather your mom or your dad die i don't

04:42:45.180 know it's like something it's so no it's different but it's like when you have kids your answer will

04:42:49.480 change i'm sure hopefully yeah i'm surviving i'm sorry i think i think logically okay if it's uh

04:42:56.900 if it was like you can you can't make another you but you and your wife can make another one of your

04:43:02.840 kids that that is my thinking i could have more kids you know i know it sounds so fucking bad but

04:43:08.820 i kind of like being alive and not drowning so i know it's not damn you couldn't live with yourself

04:43:15.480 yeah i promise you i would be yes i wouldn't i would be a piece of shit but um

04:43:23.060 wait but you would live but you're also going to hell i mean that's pretty much guaranteed

04:43:29.820 and i'm gonna believe in that and i'm gonna say this like if if that happened and i took the

04:43:35.300 life jacket and i watched my son drown i'd probably end up killing myself anyway yeah i'm gonna be

04:43:40.080 honest i would knock myself off i feel like it's because he doesn't i'm never gonna get laid ever

04:43:45.700 again um like she was found her kid was found with a life vest on the boat yeah yeah yeah i heard

04:43:53.160 about that i haven't heard about that i'm not sure you drowned and saved your kid that's the

04:43:59.880 assumption that's like the one that's really powerful actually i just know i couldn't especially

04:44:06.380 because i said this last time my son had like a stroke and a brain aneurysm when he was eight

04:44:11.840 and um so that showed me that i know i wouldn't make it without him like since it was that close i was

04:44:19.800 like there's just no there's no way so yeah that's scary he's doing really good though by the way he's

04:44:24.880 doing great yeah uh okay where were we um we were gonna kill off your kid on a boat yeah you're

04:44:32.380 keeping the life jacket oh no man um yeah anyways uh we're we were talking about that oh uh oh will

04:44:41.160 you keep your like let's say you get married will you keep your last name or uh hyphenate in marriage

04:44:49.360 i think i'll keep my last name you'll keep your last name just because my mom did so i was like

04:44:54.860 oh wow yeah she she kept her last name so i kind of want to like she didn't hyphenate nope what about

04:45:00.300 for the kids do you have hyphenated i have my dad's you have your okay yeah all right but she kept

04:45:04.820 hers so i don't know so what what was the point of that i don't know that's just anyways but so you

04:45:11.980 did say you raised your hand to all of my previous questions what men should pay on first dates men

04:45:17.640 should provide protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die protect i don't

04:45:21.660 know if you're you want your husband to die for you you gotta take his last name yeah at minimum

04:45:27.040 you don't gotta bow what what do men get the women don't want to take the last name they don't want

04:45:35.900 to be submissive they don't want to cook they don't want to clean what are men getting for all the

04:45:40.080 traditional things that men do nothing yeah like why won't you take the last name like why wouldn't you

04:45:46.820 want to take his last name i like my last name so it's just like the sound of it i mean my

04:45:51.120 my argument here is even if the guy has a really bad last name and your last name is the dopest last

04:45:58.600 name ever sorry you gotta wear that shit proud that was my life i had the dopest without without

04:46:06.380 question the best last name ever and i struggled to to rid myself of that name because my new last

04:46:12.980 name is so basic it's incredibly basic i was struggling with that but uh brian this brings

04:46:19.720 up a good point and it's not leaving the conversation but didn't you say i tried to cram

04:46:24.820 all the episodes that i could this past week since i don't really i'm not a regular viewer of this show

04:46:30.140 but i but you said there's no reason for a man to want to get married or there's no benefit to a man

04:46:38.420 getting married or uh there there's a religious benefit if you're religious but absent religion

04:46:44.040 i don't really think they're well i mean the the better framing is for the breadwinner there's no

04:46:50.120 benefit really in totality so there's money which is typically the man

04:46:55.900 i get what you're saying but did did you want to well provide pushback or well it's tied to what

04:47:05.240 she was saying i i thought about it because i was like yeah i can see where he's coming from but

04:47:09.120 what about your your your your lineage oh i can have kids outside of marriage sure you can but

04:47:19.040 in the case of like her family if if it's my if it's me and and you and you have not given me the

04:47:28.200 benefit of marriage why would i give you the benefit of giving my child your last name that's true

04:47:33.620 well i think there's there is an argument to be made if you're not married to the person then

04:47:39.580 you don't have to take the last name however as it relates to the children uh whether married or not

04:47:46.160 there is a tradition that exists there that the woman that the children regardless of the marriage

04:47:50.820 status uh the children take the father's last name but you know in every state legally hospitals prefer

04:47:58.320 her when parents are not married to take the the name of the wife of the mother her last name it's

04:48:04.500 usually just her suggesting that the the dad gets it that they give the child the last name but well i

04:48:10.880 easily we could just say well i'll well i mean i i could just say she's i'm just saying she's well within

04:48:15.480 her rights to say oh well i'm gonna give the child my last name and then you know you might have progeny

04:48:21.500 but you won't have any legacy well hold on um yes a woman could do that but and she should i mean

04:48:31.980 what do you mean she should she should do that if we're not married but she's my husband well if

04:48:36.880 you're not married then she's not no she shouldn't no well hold on she is my woman whether we're married

04:48:42.080 or not but yeah she's my marriage she she is and i'm her man but yeah so however regardless of our

04:48:52.300 marriage status um at least any woman i would choose to have children with again regardless of

04:48:58.560 if we're married or not my uh our kids have my last name yeah but you can't she can like you you

04:49:05.720 were saying she could flip on you and then she can divorce you and she can a prenup doesn't mean

04:49:09.860 anything she can easily have the baby be like i went through all this and this man won't give me

04:49:13.600 a ring he's not getting lineage i'm gonna keep this baby with my last name and she's well within her

04:49:19.200 rights to do so well i mean i don't know if we uh have a dispute over what lineage means but i mean

04:49:25.160 like legacy well yeah but blood lineage would exist regardless no that's progeny no lineage would

04:49:32.400 relate to blood regardless what their actual last name is well when you trace the family tree

04:49:37.500 you go by the father unless i'm misunderstanding lineage which i mean i'm gonna just google it

04:49:42.600 um like legacy like my lap your last name being carried into perpetuity lineage so your son will

04:49:51.120 not have your last name his child will now have have his grandfather's last name which is his mother's

04:49:57.580 last name so i think that that can be a component of lineage but i think lineage uh i i think

04:50:05.020 lineage would be beyond just the name that that relates to blood and ancestry yeah but you don't

04:50:12.580 see blood on family histories you see you you they track your history base unless my lineage well

04:50:19.760 wait hold on this doesn't even make sense so if my lineage then if i married a woman who had children

04:50:25.060 from another man or i get cucked but the kid has my last name is that my lineage if she takes so

04:50:31.760 that's an l no so so if so if you adopt her children and the the judge gives you that child's

04:50:39.040 last name right is that what you're saying by the way just to be clear that's not um when i was saying

04:50:43.940 it's an l it's an l to be cucked i don't think it's an l to be a stepfather oh no it's amazing i just

04:50:48.160 wanted but it's like if she gets pregnant by another another man and i think it's my kid and

04:50:53.900 the kid has my last name that's not my lineage but you're so you're so but it is now you have now

04:51:01.660 robbed that child's not you robbed it the child's biological father has been robbed of his legacy by

04:51:09.220 the court and it's been bestowed upon the new father legally to now have every accomplishment

04:51:15.880 everything that goes with this child now will have brian's last name with this child going further

04:51:22.020 that's why it's such a big deal to adopt somebody or to take somebody's last name because you now

04:51:27.040 have all the ownership and rights or whatever that go with this person into the future onto their child

04:51:33.580 onto their son's child onto their son's son's child um i i mean i don't know if we're having just a

04:51:42.360 kind of a dispute over the definition of lineage but where am i but i i understand what you're saying but

04:51:49.320 are you understanding what i'm saying if if a wife you're you assumed that whoever you

04:51:54.180 impregnate whether you marry her or not she is going to give her your child your biological child

04:52:02.360 your last name yeah but she is well within her legal rights and most states yeah especially when the

04:52:09.500 parents the couple the parents are not married whoa wait wait hold on even if i'm married to her

04:52:15.500 she's well within her legal rights absolutely to dispute the name of the child and want the

04:52:21.440 the last name so i don't see why marriage is related to this regardless regardless of our

04:52:26.400 marriage status even if we're married the woman could be a bitch or whatever it is or she could

04:52:31.540 just have a difference of opinion like even if it okay we get married here's how we're going to do it

04:52:36.540 with the children oh now that i've had a kid now we're going to name we're going to hyphenate nah the

04:52:40.560 kid i want the kid to have my last name and ultimately i i don't know exactly the legal

04:52:45.400 framework of what would happen if under a marriage there was a dispute as to the last name of the

04:52:50.260 child i don't know what would happen i'm assuming the hospital would probably defer to them to the

04:52:55.080 mother probably yeah probably so so marriage wouldn't even protect me in that situation in this

04:53:01.180 case lineage is blood but i can have a i can date a woman and we can agree hey we're not going to get

04:53:08.220 married and she can defer to me she can acquiesce to me and she can be like the kid's going to have

04:53:13.700 your last name brian marriage would not protect me in this circumstance but why would she have to

04:53:18.100 defer to you for the child's last name why would a woman have to acquiesce even in the marriage

04:53:22.320 because typically a woman who gets married and takes her husband's last name will give her child

04:53:26.120 her husband's last name it's her last name trust me a lot of women run run their shit even in marriage

04:53:31.980 in fact so i think men get more cucked i think men get more cucked in marriage because there's a bunch of

04:53:37.920 women use marriage as leverage like women will use marriage as leverage to get their will so i

04:53:45.440 actually think it's a more in terms if we're talking about who has more leverage in a relationship

04:53:49.560 i actually think the leverage remains it's it's not so much i have more leverage she has more leverage

04:53:54.280 but in marriage women or well the woman the person who's not the breadwinner has the leverage in the

04:54:00.260 marriage the person who's not the breadwinner has the leverage in the marriage and this is typically the

04:54:06.300 woman diabetic shock stay for how much longer uh i don't know how about can you can you pump out

04:54:13.860 another 30 40 minutes what do you think it's already been over that it should be it's like life over

04:54:20.660 here life death over here hey look i'm i'm not it's a long time opposed to just having somebody die on

04:54:26.120 the whatever i'm kidding i'm kidding go ahead we'll have you back again when you have your meds or

04:54:30.620 whatever thank you and it's awesome to see a picture charlie here keep that up for her piss off

04:54:35.140 the lip charts keep doing your thing you're so lovely i'm glad that we all got to talk have a good night

04:54:39.840 drive safe thank you uh here can you take her seat we'll just move over a little bit um

04:54:45.400 uh so what was your point sorry oh my point was when a woman gets married and takes her husband's name

04:54:55.420 because your your point was even if you get married there's no uh yeah guarantee but if she

04:55:01.300 takes your name and when she gets married and y'all have a baby why would she not give her child her

04:55:07.780 last name which is now which is also your name i see so you're saying well in a scenario where uh

04:55:14.020 she she's gone ahead prior to having children gone ahead and taken your last name and you guys are

04:55:19.540 married well obviously duh the children are going to have her last name too her last name which it happens

04:55:25.300 to be your last name right yeah that makes total sense for me but i i don't see why marriage is

04:55:31.440 necessary for this well i'm just saying you you acknowledge that when somebody gets married

04:55:39.620 there's nothing that legally compels the woman to take the husband the the husband's last name

04:55:45.780 even in marriage right absolutely right so the same the same standard would apply whether we're

04:55:53.500 married or not if the woman is disinterested in having either her last name being my last name

04:56:00.500 or having the children take on my last name they're within whether married or not they're within their

04:56:06.280 legal rights to prevent that but once you get married you decide whose last name is whose whether

04:56:13.120 she keeps her last name whether she hyphenates once you get married y'all make a decision right

04:56:17.600 so whatever you decide you decide whose last name is who then you have the baby right now you decide

04:56:24.100 okay is she going to have my hyphenated last name or going to have his last name or my last name

04:56:29.020 but it's going to make no sense if the baby doesn't have one of your names

04:56:32.640 uh well i mean my my one of your new one of her married name or your last name because you're saying

04:56:40.320 the marriage is no guarantee yeah sure it's not but once you get married you're going to figure it out

04:56:44.180 before you have the baby look if if uh if this is like a planned pregnancy where we're i'm dating a woman

04:56:52.220 i'm together with a woman and we've made a decision that we're going to have kids first off

04:56:56.200 conversation about last name has probably already happened although the type of woman that i would date

04:57:02.100 uh i'm highly confident that she she that there would not be any dispute over the the last name of our

04:57:11.880 children like freedom is scary you never know she could have a baby and just i i went through all

04:57:19.580 these hours of labor and he won't give me a ring oh well this would all be determined yeah but this

04:57:24.460 would all be determined well in advance i well in advance i mean i i'm like you can have the conversation

04:57:33.500 with your girlfriend hey um we're i want the children to have my last name like here's how

04:57:42.360 here's how the conversation would probably go i don't even think i would need to have it but if i

04:57:46.620 did i'd go like hey so look we're thinking about having children i want the kids to have our last name

04:57:51.620 and she's gonna be like oh yeah sure that's the conversation like that's the conversation i anticipate

04:57:57.500 i'm gonna have absent marriage i mean that's a that's a big presupposition but i i think that you

04:58:05.540 have to be prepared for a woman to say well i will i want to give my child like i wasn't expecting her

04:58:10.640 to say that her mother that her name was hyphenated i mean i didn't i thought based on how she was

04:58:16.740 talking it wouldn't be an assumption that i'm just like blindly going into like getting a woman pregnant

04:58:21.260 first off if any woman who i'm going to want to have kids with we're going to probably have

04:58:26.020 significant alignment on values so again i don't even think it's going to ever be a conversation

04:58:31.780 with with whatever woman i end up having children with she's going to probably align with my values

04:58:36.860 my kind of relationship dynamic and it's going to be a foregone conclusion that she's going to that

04:58:42.340 the kids are going to have my last name but even if it's not so easy to just assume that it'd be very

04:58:47.420 easy for me to just simply say hey so um we're thinking about having kids i want the kids to have my last

04:58:53.140 name and i'm very confident that here i already did it but here's how that conversation is going

04:58:58.080 to go she's going to say yeah that sounds good end of conversation and then if that's not how that

04:59:07.060 conversation goes then again it's kind of like that's just the kind of woman i would pick

04:59:12.940 maybe i'm mistaken but otherwise i'm pretty confident that the conversation is going to

04:59:20.140 go in that way i've heard many a story of men in divorce court weren't talking about the name at

04:59:26.800 the signing of the name at the hospital or who signed whose name or whose last name somebody else

04:59:31.820 has no this is not a conversation you have when the woman just popped out a baby out of her vagina

04:59:36.900 the conversation is had before she's even pregnant so you're assuming that everything goes according to

04:59:42.300 plan you're assuming that remember you said i guess i mean sure women can lie well you're not

04:59:48.360 married say you get you get you find out you're pregnant and you haven't had the conversation yet

04:59:52.780 we're there's so you're throwing so many curveballs here that's not a curveball well no the

05:00:02.200 look ultimate i i don't know how how else to reiterate this essentially if i'm saying the type

05:00:10.760 of woman that i would that i would just de facto default to be dating

05:00:15.640 this would it wouldn't even so your argument is this won't happen i don't date hold on i don't

05:00:24.800 date shit lib feminist 50 50 women to begin with but if the conversation even came up if the

05:00:32.320 conversation came up it would come up well before we decide to have kids it's not i don't know why

05:00:39.420 you're saying well the conversation can only come up after she popped out the baby well i don't know

05:00:44.720 what type of woman you're marrying that's not even a little bit covert feminist who's not going to

05:00:49.840 demand that might be true if she's not demanding that you marry her then you have to be worried that

05:00:54.100 she might be a little bit liberal somewhere hidden that you know not necessarily not necessarily

05:01:01.120 i mean these are all risks you're willing to take i'm just being i'm just being real well i mean

05:01:04.900 stephen crowder married virgin and they were christian and she was a covert feminist so this

05:01:09.880 idea that christianity religion marriage is going to protect you from a covert feminist

05:01:14.960 is complete bullshit half of these more than half of these even conservative women are feminists

05:01:20.960 so this idea that okay go date a based conservative girl they're all i don't know those terms most of

05:01:26.480 them are feminists i don't care i'm going to prioritize uh i'm going to prioritize a woman

05:01:32.220 regardless of her desire or not to get married i'm going to prioritize uh her lacking of feminism

05:01:38.940 over her conservative or christian values oh are you are you a christian uh i'm so okay

05:01:45.820 i have pro-christian sentiment but i'm agnostic pro-christian sentiment so are you like your

05:01:53.440 pragmatist like a moral pragmatist are you like donald trump well i i don't know donald trump's position

05:01:59.560 on this but i can tell you my position i'm not an atheist i'm an agnostic i don't know um my i but i

05:02:07.060 think christianity on the individual level and the societal level is immensely beneficial however

05:02:13.120 in fact a doctrine of christianity is truth telling being honest not telling lies and so i wouldn't sit

05:02:20.920 here and lie because truth be told i don't have the the actual faith in that belief maybe one day i'll

05:02:27.540 get there but in terms of like my assessment and views of christianity i think it's again very

05:02:33.860 positive on the societal level and on the individual level it's a good thing i have pro-christian

05:02:39.880 sentiment i'm not an anti-theist i'm not an atheist but i am agnostic my belief isn't there so do you

05:02:46.340 and i'm just making sure i get a further understanding so it's like do you but you don't believe in like a

05:02:51.180 heaven or hell are you are you there are you in those i don't know i i don't know to be honest i

05:02:58.240 that's that's being agnostic i faith somebody in the chat says faith is a gift i have yet to receive

05:03:06.440 um so and look i mean i think if there was a christian order in this country i think that that

05:03:16.220 that would probably be a good thing you would like that i either like even from governance or

05:03:22.480 even just like robust uh a robust uh i don't know what the right word is christendom like robust

05:03:31.860 uptick in christianity in this country that would be a good thing so you would want christian

05:03:37.040 nationalism you would you would call for christian nationalism i don't know what that would really

05:03:40.620 entail i don't i don't know what that is but um like if society had uh adhered to uh christian

05:03:49.240 ethics and christian morals that'd probably be better than what we have currently i completely agree

05:03:54.220 with that yeah but like if you're asking me in terms of my faith like i it's just maybe it'll come

05:04:00.380 to me but i don't want to lie it's not i'm a truth teller it's not there well i i it'd be super

05:04:05.880 beneficial for me to like grift and say i'm a christian but i'm not gonna lie i'm the

05:04:10.440 same way and i work at a very christian based company but i'm i'm agnostic and i echo exactly

05:04:16.560 like to the t what you've said i think christianity is a force for good totally in the u.s in the world

05:04:22.640 but i just there's like there's a roadblock there that that maybe it'll come to me maybe it won't

05:04:29.480 say i've said that exact thing and i i asked that the the first half of that i asked that because you

05:04:35.340 said about uh there are christians who are covert in their marriages and they do this and you

05:04:39.660 mentioned your friend and something about his wife and then you said there yes steven well and

05:04:43.920 and you're right about that statistic there is just as much divorce in the church as there is out of

05:04:48.360 the church the the difference is i've heard it's a bit less in it's it's it's just about equal but

05:04:56.040 this is the thing it's still high though it's still high and you're all that to say is it should be more

05:05:00.700 disproportionate based on the values of christianity but so i'm saying to your point yes i i do agree with

05:05:06.660 that the difference is what is the moral driver for for half of those marriages or the the proportion

05:05:12.980 of those marriages that we're talking about you're saying well well what my i'm not going to choose a

05:05:17.360 wife like x y and z and i'm saying there are people who are in those marriages they have a moral driver

05:05:22.740 for why they do what they do well why am i getting married why am i taking my husband's last name why am

05:05:27.400 i having him lead why am i doing all these different things so that's that's why i said that that last

05:05:32.120 part i wasn't trying to oh no i'm not i'm not upset or or anything like that i just yeah no i but i mean

05:05:39.840 just on the marriage thing um i it's just i don't know there's definitely like the way it's structured

05:05:51.180 legally currently in terms of divorce uh now just to be clear like monogamy good having a singular

05:06:00.380 partner good having children good and but i think you can have all those things absent marriage

05:06:07.260 but marriage is a sacrament it's i i understand what you're saying but marriage call it something

05:06:13.820 else marriage is in and of itself a sacrament so when we're talking about marriage we're using god's

05:06:19.500 material and saying i'm just going to do do whatever i want to do well just do what you're going to do but

05:06:24.580 remember if and again so i asked you about the do you believe in heaven or hell because i didn't know

05:06:29.260 exactly where you what where you were we're all whether you believe in god or not we're all going

05:06:34.660 to be held to the same judgment so it's not like well i'm not going to choose that sacrament

05:06:38.160 again not to be like dismissive but that's not really a compelling argument towards an agnostic

05:06:46.200 person i i guess i mean uh as far as i know when you die that's your consciousness is there's no

05:06:53.920 heaven or hell it's just it's just the how whatever it was before you were born you return to that

05:06:59.900 nothing which is kind of scary not gonna lie yeah but you but so you believe it was nothing before

05:07:05.620 we were born you don't believe like we were knit in our mother's womb you don't believe god

05:07:08.980 put our souls in uh in our bodies you know i already told you i'm agnostic so i i don't know um why do you

05:07:17.080 think christian values are good though what why did you choose those over anything else then uh well

05:07:23.380 i mean i think people can i that that's the foundation of western civilization um and like i think

05:07:31.500 there's a lot of truth and like i i've read some uh i've i've read biblical scripture and uh

05:07:38.420 there's a lot of truth and value in in in that but um yeah i don't know

05:07:46.760 what do you want me to tell you you're talking to somebody who's agnostic you're answering my

05:07:51.480 questions you're saying what i don't recall consciousness pride in fact i mean even when

05:07:57.420 you're young a lot of people don't remember anything from their like one two or three or

05:08:00.920 whatever um i would from an agnostic perspective again i don't know what actually happens but

05:08:06.960 if if i had to guess assuming that god doesn't exist and there's no heaven there's no hell

05:08:13.320 there's no afterlife i would assume that you return to the nothingness from which you uh

05:08:19.580 it's just nothing so we're here we we just are randomly here look i'm again i don't have an

05:08:26.120 issue with i'm a fan of christianity no no i'm not going against you i'm right i'm asking i think i

05:08:31.560 even told you i'm a curious person i'm i don't know you i'm just asking these questions so i can better

05:08:36.140 pasty i'll get to you in just a sec pasty w by the way pasty said last show oh my god this guy

05:08:40.740 hold on i'll come to you in just a sec pasty i just want to finish off this convo but like i think

05:08:45.840 that whatever the experience was prior to birth logically that would make it would make sense to me

05:08:53.000 that the non-existence the non-consciousness that i don't know what thing what it was before i was

05:09:01.620 born it would be in the same way as a when you fall asleep and you don't recall your dreams

05:09:08.480 whatever that eight hours happens in that eight hours that's it's a dark it's darkness it's death

05:09:17.680 it's nothing i don't know i just i could be wrong though i don't know definitively

05:09:25.120 but from an agnostic perspective it would make sense that's a possibility and that's this terrifying

05:09:31.280 thought for me it's absolutely terrifying because i enjoy having consciousness and when i go to sleep

05:09:38.420 i hope that i'll wake up and the idea that one day you could i mean there's other there's various ways

05:09:43.760 you could die but one day you go to sleep and then your consciousness is gone that to me is terrifying

05:09:49.620 i guess i just think nothing like nothing can't come from nothing like it would make everything

05:09:55.800 very coincidental and i just don't like if everything is like so particular to like

05:10:02.140 like the molecule like if anything was slightly off balance we literally wouldn't exist so people are

05:10:09.600 saying i'm an atheist i don't know you are not an atheist that's why i was asking you lots of

05:10:15.660 questions because some things you did say sounded atheist and some sounded like a moral pragmatist so

05:10:19.560 you're figuring it out like you said you're just you're figuring it out as you're you know

05:10:24.020 nobody's all these labels are what they are that's why i'm asking you questions to see you

05:10:29.140 how i don't know the chat is not happy right now the chat look guys i don't know i don't know

05:10:36.480 isn't it true that so if you believe in the big bang do you like there's nothing and then somehow

05:10:45.680 look i don't know i don't want to go too deep in theology but like look

05:10:49.600 quick question are you orthodox christian or what's your i'm a christian what i'm i'm not a

05:10:56.900 pro you y'all would say i'm a protestant but we did i'm not what's the church i'm a christian like

05:11:02.480 literally what church what's are you a presbyterian what no i'm not i'm not from a product of the

05:11:07.900 reformation i am a christian like a biblical so for instance when i go to worship i go to a

05:11:13.080 our church is called if on the sign the church that meets at east shelby the east

05:11:17.460 shelby church of christ or turning point church of christ that not really i didn't mean to say

05:11:23.300 turning point i think i just turned and saw charlie and then i said turning point but whatever

05:11:27.540 if the street was called whatever that's where we the people who are members of the lord's body

05:11:32.720 we meet here we are the church i don't go to church i am the church so wherever i go with my

05:11:39.120 brethren i'm a church i am the church i'm a christian we were called christians in

05:11:42.940 antioch in the book of acts so i'm a christian i'm not and and again you would say i'm a product

05:11:47.420 of the of the reformation so you'd call me protestant but i don't call myself a protestant

05:11:51.720 we don't call ourselves protestants we believe in the trinity the god the father son holy spirit

05:11:56.700 of course okay i don't know i'm just asking some fucking questions

05:12:00.240 um yeah technically are you i forget the terms for this but um do you believe in like evolution

05:12:07.900 do i believe in evolution or creation which one i believe in creation well no but creation can

05:12:16.160 coexist with evolution do we evolve as people is what or is that what you're asking well i think

05:12:22.240 there's like some there i don't know we're getting no i believe that god created the world in six days

05:12:27.580 and rested on the seventh same that's that's that's what a christian believes who reads the bible but

05:12:35.320 i mean i don't believe in the big bang you don't believe in the big no i don't believe but but you

05:12:41.500 there are christians that can that that can reconcile create uh creation and evolution well people can

05:12:48.080 reconcile a lot of things and tickle them their ears to justify things but what does the bible say if we

05:12:53.320 look if we do a literal interpretation of genesis genesis let's i love that well so what what was

05:13:01.860 it um i'm trying to think in the beginning was the word and the word was with god the word was god

05:13:06.720 the same was in the beginning with god all the order the order of how god created uh the order of

05:13:14.720 certain things and i'm forgetting the exact details but like certain things came before uh

05:13:20.320 like that's just not how hold on i gotta i gotta google this because this is not my will

05:13:27.440 like i'm trying to remember exactly but um like plants became in genesis plants came before something

05:13:36.020 and that's like that kind of conflicts with the science so wait which one oh because you're saying

05:13:46.080 that because there was light or there was no sun and then there was i forgot i don't know if the

05:13:52.080 maybe the vegetation came before the light i don't remember i for i don't know it's i don't even mean

05:13:57.280 the light or the sun i forgot in the beginning there was a light the sun didn't come until later after

05:14:02.800 plants day one you know the song i don't know day one god made light god made clouds and skies

05:14:11.760 okay i'm gonna i'm gonna move off of this but i'm gonna let sorry for the delay pasty george but uh

05:14:17.820 message from the government of canada you're right day three and day four george donated two hundred

05:14:22.480 dollars and four cents jessex proves the point on why men should avoid western women or any woman

05:14:29.260 influenced by feminism in any way and look for a traditional woman in another country that has

05:14:34.780 strong cultural values what do i do what i need to do what i think they might mean i think it's you

05:14:41.100 your chair six how do i feminine what your chair six pasty george said it w's in the chat for pasty

05:14:46.140 george my good canadian friend welcome back don't don't don't he's not talking about me

05:14:50.480 i don't care about pasty george i'm trying to stay away so i can recover and work on my book

05:14:57.800 but sometimes i can't help myself i was curious to see what kind of notarded panelists were on tonight

05:15:04.660 hello l it's good to see you man i was kind of sad like i was like oh man pasty george is gone but

05:15:10.420 like hey he tuned in he tuned in he couldn't help himself thank you pasty george appreciate it man

05:15:15.580 uh it's been it's been an interesting convo man good to see you dude um oh wait fuck i was gonna

05:15:22.740 ask pasty something shit i forgot what i was gonna ask him i don't know whatever um oh oh nick can you

05:15:32.640 google here wait wait google ibook g3 and then also a different tab imac g3

05:15:40.300 google the chat chat i'm gonna ask the chat a favor stay tuned i need to ask you guys a favor uh

05:15:48.680 what is what what currency is this r what is our robles robes images wait what is our dollar sign

05:15:59.300 chat what is our dollar sign what is that what's that yeah what is that chat what what currency is

05:16:09.140 that chat i'm about to be a goblin that's not true chat what the fuck do you have it yeah

05:16:18.140 yo does anybody watching now there's hold on how many people do we have watching we have

05:16:24.080 like 4 000 on twitch we got for we got like probably 8 000 people total watching does anybody

05:16:32.740 have one of these it's the clamshell like nine can if somebody has one i need one for the show

05:16:42.940 and i want a good quality i want like you see some of them how they're all cracked and shit i need

05:16:48.140 like one that's in decent condition the blue the orange or the green

05:16:54.500 you don't have to i'm not saying you buy it if anybody has one maybe you could gift it maybe a

05:17:01.140 little gift to the whatever i need one for the show i know it sounds stupid and then the imac g3

05:17:06.560 okay scroll down to the scroll down the one with the the they were if anybody has an i it doesn't

05:17:17.560 need to even work neither of them have to work i just need one if anybody has an imac g3 and you're

05:17:25.220 willing to send it to me i'm not gonna i'm not gonna sell it it's a prop for the show please dm me on

05:17:31.560 instagram if you have a the the ibook g3 or the imac g3 i'll explain it when i get one i guess okay

05:17:40.000 what what did what was the currency did anybody figure it out brazilian oh this guy's a fucking

05:17:49.380 scammer hold on oh whoops 200 brazilian dollars how much is that like 50 cents all right yeah it's

05:18:00.060 below the threshold it's got it's usd it's usd but um fuck you uh damn bro this brazilian guy's

05:18:10.520 fucking killing me here this fucking brazilian you know what hey bro

05:18:15.880 gianni guillermo fucking guillermo

05:18:23.560 what is that actually you in the photo what what the fuck dude is that you

05:18:36.180 okay all right all right i see how it is all right thank you uh hey do the band do the band there you

05:18:48.000 got you got a little brazilian wait portuguese my bad you got a little portuguese there all right

05:18:52.080 uh here let's blast through the notes we gotta blast through the notes here but uh oh passion

05:18:56.620 not matter do you think your passion matter like uh related to body count

05:18:59.960 like if body count matters uh yes i feel like like like if a guy was like you told the guy your

05:19:10.960 body count and he was like i don't want to date you because of that i mean like that like kind of

05:19:19.040 but like not really i don't know i feel like it shouldn't determine your like value as a person

05:19:24.860 okay um hold on what about you going around the table i don't give a rip don't care at all

05:19:34.040 i do think that past matters i think it matters to an extent yes

05:19:42.500 all right i i i think it matters

05:19:50.640 it doesn't matter to me but i understand if it's a problem for guys yeah

05:19:58.720 okay cool um so going around the table what's your body count

05:20:04.040 mine yeah do i have to say you have to

05:20:07.720 you don't have to say you can give like do you want to do a range huh you can do like a ballpark

05:20:16.360 you don't have to do like an exact number okay or you can just say whatever you want

05:20:20.740 one to five i'm not gonna answer that ballpark range no not even close okay i'll give you a range

05:20:29.780 in the last 20 years it's under 10 in the last like 30 years it's like 25 give or take so yeah

05:20:37.840 my husband

05:20:39.660 i don't know i never kept track like that but if i had to ballpark it i'm gonna go low 20s

05:20:48.340 low 20s did you did you like lose track or

05:20:52.080 no i never kept a list or anything like that

05:20:55.700 yeah multiply it by three and that's the real number for everybody for everybody i'm not talking

05:21:00.900 anybody there all right we're gonna blast through the uh questionnaire here or not the questionnaire

05:21:06.380 the pre-show notes okay uh let's see here

05:21:10.760 hold on one sec um okay so uh i guess we'll go to haley

05:21:18.280 um let's see we talked about that talked about that uh you have a ludicrous amounts of ridiculous

05:21:27.220 dating stories

05:21:27.980 yeah i really do i've wrote them in my notes app and there's some i decided i'm not going to share

05:21:35.800 but oh i do have a good one on another terrible tinder date um let's see this might have been

05:21:45.120 seven years ago ish and i get a guy back to my place and um so he starts acting really weird you

05:21:54.660 know we're hanging out having a good time we hadn't done it or anything but we're talking and we're

05:21:59.140 sitting and watching uh something on the tv and suddenly he starts getting really quiet and um

05:22:05.900 looking over you know i was kind of watching whatever was there i'm looking over and suddenly

05:22:11.440 he's like laying down in this really weird position uh kind of eyes half open and i'm poking

05:22:18.580 him and prodding him and he's not responding so i'm getting kind of worried like okay so i don't

05:22:23.100 know this guy is he overdosing or something does he do drugs well so um i went into the bathroom or

05:22:31.180 actually wait no first i actually i decided you know he probably like maybe he needs medical

05:22:36.260 assistance so the first thing i did was i did call an ambulance and while they're while i'm waiting on

05:22:40.580 that i go into the bathroom and i see this little vial thing with like drops like an eyedropper type

05:22:47.000 thing and it turned out uh he they were like the date rape drug the you know ghg yeah he dude roofied

05:22:56.240 himself and he didn't even share oh no no no no it was so weird it turned out you know actually became

05:23:03.700 friends with him after that um just because he was such an interesting dude uh didn't date him or

05:23:10.960 anything but yeah and it turns out he he was kind of addicted i didn't know he could get addicted to

05:23:16.760 that but yeah he was he did that on a daily basis he would freaking roofie himself and then he also had

05:23:24.100 all this other medication i don't know what it was not prescription stuff but yep that's different

05:23:31.360 that's different uh good times yeah it's very interesting yeah nothing bad happened so it's

05:23:40.280 just good times um let's see here um you say modern dating is doomed you've used dating apps

05:23:47.360 never resulted in a relationship you weren't catfishing people you don't edit your pictures

05:23:53.060 no um you say these romantic connections via internet end up being low effort on the dude's

05:23:59.480 part no surprise there that's why i stopped doing that just no more internet i left internet dating

05:24:04.940 behind in my 20s it just ended up being a waste of a freaking decade my prime years right there um

05:24:12.260 uh siara yes uh you dated a pilot who had what uh he had a wife and kids and i had no idea

05:24:22.860 whole whole wife and kids at home okay damn you had no clue about it i had no idea no you dated

05:24:29.060 guy who had a girlfriend you didn't know about it yes that one was quick but yeah had no idea uh you

05:24:36.000 dated a uh man who you for over a year who uh who you ended up finding out was what he was having sex

05:24:49.320 with transsexual men so when wait trans trans men trans men it was a it was a biological male who

05:25:01.640 oh so trans women trans women yes sorry it's okay don't be yeah yeah i had no idea it confuses the

05:25:09.900 it was uh someone who who was a man who became a woman yes okay yes okay yeah but like still so he

05:25:19.340 was gay yes yeah i in my opinion i think he was gay if you ask him he would tell you differently

05:25:24.800 because she looks like a female but i mean you can't so you even granting if you can change your

05:25:34.040 gender you can't change your sex two males having sex meets the definition of homosexuality yes

05:25:40.740 that gay is slang for homosexual yeah so yep not not a criticism look if you're gay or homosexual

05:25:49.880 whatever whatever whatever live your life but let's not paint right a picture something as straight if

05:25:56.540 it's not yeah yeah i went on a like i don't even consider it a date but we like we're smoking this is a

05:26:03.920 long time ago but we were like smoking and he was just telling you like past stories and he said

05:26:09.000 that essentially so dating trans women he's like i would treat their penis as if it like he's like

05:26:16.780 i still consider it a woman so i still like it wasn't there yeah and i'm like how do you like he's still

05:26:22.980 like he did stuff to the penis but still viewed that or the as a man i was a woman you know what i'm

05:26:32.100 trying to say like yes so and when when he said that in my head i was like oh yeah what about

05:26:37.580 trans women who've had bottom surgery it's still a man yeah no no i completely agree my my dad is

05:26:44.260 actually trans but i i yeah how's that i heard you say that he's a woman he's trans is your dad

05:26:54.780 he's transitioned he's transitioned not bruce really are you the one from caitland no i'm from

05:27:00.240 los angeles dang how was that like how was that i i hate when uh people act like they know what it's

05:27:08.060 like because they have no idea it teared my family apart um it destroyed my little sister who was still

05:27:16.700 in high school at the time um he's still an unimaginable asshole as he always was before

05:27:23.080 and even more so now in my opinion pretends like he knows what it's like to be a woman and he does not

05:27:30.360 at all never had a period never went through puberty never has to have children like you don't get it so

05:27:38.740 don't try to understand and to be honest you know first wave feminism is fine but all these you know

05:27:46.160 feminists today um who are standing up for trans women it's uh your argument's kind of collapsing

05:27:53.240 on itself because you cannot be pro-trans women and be a feminist at the same time just wow yeah so

05:27:59.960 it's yeah it's it's almost family tore my family apart it's like kind of insulting it's absolutely

05:28:05.700 like like you don't you don't understand what it's like to like accidentally bleed on yourself in

05:28:10.900 public totally you know what i'm saying and yeah how old were you when he started this was 2016 so

05:28:18.640 so recently almost recently yeah recently oh did he show if when you look back and like no he was

05:28:26.800 misogynistic asshole um a gun wielding woman hating uh cheated on all of his wives you know you know

05:28:35.740 never took a woman seriously never took me seriously um and now you know all of this has

05:28:44.020 happened and what is it called is it called autogynephilia where it's not really trans but

05:28:49.980 they're really just attracted to the the thought of themselves as women maybe is that what that's the

05:28:55.540 terminology is that right autogynephilia something like that guys what we're gonna do uh we have some

05:29:01.340 pizza that just came here so we're gonna have a little everybody want pizza okay pizza oh you don't

05:29:08.060 want pizza yeah yeah pizza more for me yeah just give me quick yeses please yes i'm good for now

05:29:16.880 yeah yeah okay so here here here i don't want any yep thank you though i'm good for now uh guys tts

05:29:27.680 we're gonna lower the tts to 69 69 69 60 excuse me 69 tts guys get them in get them in i thought it

05:29:38.740 was fries 69 dollars tts uh 69 tts if you want to get a uh message in a roast in get it in boys get it

05:29:53.520 in all right uh i'm gonna finish off continue with the notes you had some disagreements with

05:29:57.280 them up with me though what were those uh the first one was on the marriage yep we talked about

05:30:02.500 that unless you had like specific yeah well mine's different it's not from like a moral standpoint it's

05:30:07.940 from a standpoint of logically and having been in that experience where i actually felt the same way

05:30:15.400 where i didn't believe that i needed the government to tell me that my relationship was important or

05:30:21.140 valid or whatever and then i lost my partner and we weren't married and the hoops that i had to jump

05:30:27.740 through because of that really made me look at well if you're gonna if you're gonna be in a long-term

05:30:33.820 relationship with somebody over the course of your whole life and you're gonna have children

05:30:37.240 if you're not married especially if she's staying home with the kids and she's not acquiring social

05:30:44.940 security and she's not acquiring retirement and pension and all those other things if something

05:30:50.040 happens to you she's screwed she's she's nobody in the eyes of the government and takes everything

05:30:56.420 from you um yeah it was it was a mess and i had to really look into it because i was put into that

05:31:02.560 situation and then the other side of it is like on that social security aspect of it you're paying

05:31:07.760 into the social security for a whole life and then you've chosen this partner who you're going to

05:31:12.840 spend your entire life with right in your eyes but not married yeah you're paying this huge sum of

05:31:19.400 money and then if you die she has no rights to it and she can't take care of herself because she had

05:31:24.620 no acquired social security yeah i can't well i mean look really quick on this um there's i

05:31:32.420 understand that marriage can confer those those sorts of benefits uh to the beneficiary but even if

05:31:39.140 you're not married you can have a beneficiary you can have a final will and testament or whatever

05:31:43.980 uh that can outline you know how the breakdown is going to be there um so marriage i guess if you're

05:31:53.000 married it does confer some easiness there but i don't think that's a really compelling uh

05:31:59.840 i what i'm hearing when you say all that stuff and look some of that stuff's valid i hear me me me me

05:32:06.280 men die earlier than women you're talking about and whoever the breadwinner is typically that's the

05:32:15.360 man again i'm when i'm making a an argument about marriage i'm looking at it from the perspective of

05:32:23.800 what is the benefit to the breadwinner what is the benefit to the man you you you exactly i was just

05:32:31.000 going to say the same thing well yeah you want to mitigate all your risk and you want to give it to

05:32:35.920 her um it's it's a bit different so in this case

05:32:42.600 women do confer benefits from marriage or the person who's not the breadwinner confers benefits

05:32:53.140 from marriage what are the benefits to men

05:32:56.620 to be married what do you mean yeah what what are the benefits of men

05:33:03.860 whatever the benefits to men like legally or morally like when you're okay if if i'm anti-marriage

05:33:10.540 and you're saying well here's what i okay i'm anti doing a business deal with somebody and the

05:33:18.500 the person tells me well hold on if you do this business deal with me i benefit would that be

05:33:26.120 convincing to the other person ever no and i if you have if you don't have any kids in the situation

05:33:32.960 i can have kids out of marriage but go ahead yeah you can but if i'm just kidding but but even if you

05:33:39.780 so if you have those kids in that marriage and you're wanting her to stay home with them right

05:33:43.680 she's forfeiting her career she's raising the kids for 10 20 years of time whatever it is

05:33:49.000 again she's not acquiring all of that stuff and so if something happens to you the social security

05:33:55.860 benefits she has no say and not only that if you're unmarried those social security benefits go to

05:34:00.780 nobody i'm not familiar with how social security works so when you're married your wife gets your

05:34:05.860 social security benefits i don't know how it works so like say you're in a relationship with this

05:34:10.680 person for 20 years she raises the kid you go off to work during that time you're paying into

05:34:15.640 social security every single paycheck right it's like 12 of your entire income and it's it's like

05:34:21.980 500 000 to 700 000 if you're a high earner over a long period of time that's to take care of you guys

05:34:28.640 during retirement okay that's under your name if you pass away she has no rights to that so she just

05:34:36.080 spent 40 years with you and she can now not take care of herself because she hasn't worked at all

05:34:40.500 i mean look i don't know if on one hand i can be charitable and say that the current economic

05:34:48.000 order is going to be the case in 40 years i think there's a couple things here i don't think honestly

05:34:55.340 whether you're married or not i think social security is going to be completely gobbled up

05:35:00.600 by the boomers and maybe by a bit of gen z i don't think there's going to be anything left

05:35:06.440 for millennials or sorry did i say gen z i might have i'm sorry i might have meant gen x i might

05:35:12.320 have misspoken it's going to get gobbled up by boomers it's going to get gobbled up maybe by some

05:35:17.800 of gen x as a millennial social security gone gen z gen alpha no social security uh it's not going to be

05:35:29.260 there secondly i do think that with the advent of ai i don't know how things are going to go

05:35:36.180 economically i think there's going to be in the next 10 20 30 years and i feel maybe this is like

05:35:41.860 bad faith that i'm bringing it here there's going to be so much social upheaval there's going to be

05:35:48.060 social chaos there's going to be disorder um i don't know if we have an economic solution

05:35:56.180 to the mass amounts of people who are not going to be employed i don't know what society is going

05:36:01.820 to look like in 20 30 40 years due to artificial intelligence because the reality is there are people

05:36:08.760 who just don't have the iq to do like the jobs that will be available if we're going to be talking

05:36:14.960 about a universal basic income or a tax on artificial intelligence i don't know what how things

05:36:21.060 are going to look economically truthfully in 20 30 40 years um i don't know i'm a little scared not

05:36:31.040 gonna lie um but pretend nothing changes how do you answer her question a lot of like i know i know

05:36:36.700 assuming that there isn't a complete overhaul of our economic system due to uh you know artificial

05:36:45.340 intelligence and like getting either close to or into a post scarcity uh society and world uh

05:36:56.380 i mean still my point about assuming things stay the same i don't think that there's going to be

05:37:02.960 social security for millennials or uh or gen z or any other future generations but um

05:37:10.480 uh that i'm not an expert in economics i i don't know but uh okay to address your thing assuming it's

05:37:17.720 the case um taking your word for it that okay if you're married then five hundred thousand dollars

05:37:25.960 that otherwise wouldn't go to your uh wife would just get eaten up by the state i guess is that how

05:37:35.160 it is i don't know i don't know so i'll take your word for it yeah that that that's interesting

05:37:40.620 and maybe you know assuming i make it to old age um if i'm on my deathbed

05:37:46.460 and i've been with my girl for however fucking 40 50 years or whatever uh or you know i don't know

05:37:55.360 if we we've been together for a long ass time and i'm you know i got a couple years left fuck it

05:38:00.600 i'll marry her so she could get the benefits but until it's reached a point like if i'm in my 30s

05:38:09.100 the i have to weigh the risks in this case the risk of divorce is going to giga fuck me financially

05:38:16.980 so but again i'm still looking for what do i get but why why not a prenup though like you can

05:38:25.340 essentially dictate exactly what happens in your marriage in the event a little bit i mean there's

05:38:30.340 some things that you can't get around in a prenup well like for example even if i have a contract

05:38:35.840 that somebody's my slave well yeah like a court would find that unenforceable so there's certain

05:38:41.440 things in a prenup that would be unenforceable um i have a solution reasonable what why don't you

05:38:47.400 just marry somebody who would never divorce you why don't i just date somebody who would um what

05:38:54.180 oh yeah yeah no it's all good um

05:38:59.500 i mean do you think wait wait do you think most people go into a marriage thinking like oh yeah

05:39:06.760 i most people think this is the love of my life we're going to be together forever

05:39:10.980 50 divorce rate 50 divorce rate i'm just testing your logic because your argument to me was

05:39:19.360 i would never marry somebody who wouldn't give my child uh my last name whether we're together or

05:39:25.660 not so here we are just pick somebody who'll never divorce you and that solves the problem

05:39:30.340 well i think there's a difference here i think people can have a change of uh people can change

05:39:38.140 that was my argument no i think it's different though i think uh

05:39:41.480 i think if i talk to a girl and hold on these are this is a false equivalence so

05:39:52.100 if i talk to a woman and she tells me oh yeah if if uh we have kids i want you uh or i want the kids

05:40:01.260 to have our last name that's different like okay for example if i tell somebody that i'm going to

05:40:07.980 love them forever am i now beholden to love them forever no like people say this all the time in

05:40:14.680 relationships i would never leave you i i'm gonna love you forever one year later two years however

05:40:22.860 long people fall out of love circumstances change so i don't think it's a fair comparison to say okay

05:40:29.940 well the woman could change her mind about the the last name of the kids how is that different

05:40:35.080 it's completely different all agents of free will in both scenarios you're an agent of free will

05:40:39.460 and both of them are presupposed that you're going to do what the other person says that they're going

05:40:43.440 to do so i'm presupposing that when i get married to somebody and i say i'm going to love honor obey

05:40:48.680 you till as long as i live and i don't do that well i've what broken my vows to you if i tell you i'm

05:40:55.620 going to give you your my our child's last name and i decide you know what since you didn't marry me

05:41:01.200 i'm not going to do that there i'm in both scenarios you're an agent of free will and

05:41:05.520 you're able to change your mind at the blink of an at the blink of an eye so they literally are the

05:41:10.400 exact same scenario i i don't think it's the same scenario because there's material differences so

05:41:16.660 so okay uh in the in the event of of i i mean i i can't believe i have to even explain this

05:41:27.280 yeah so is it technically possible if a woman tells you i want the kids to have your last name

05:41:33.340 that either right before that the the kids are born or after the kids are born she could have a change of

05:41:39.660 mind yes absolutely this is logically possible however i think i think there's a differential here

05:41:47.020 i don't know if we can do a straight comparison between that and then like the very intricate dynamics

05:41:53.640 of uh of relationships and the changes that can occur in relationships can i help you

05:42:00.380 in one of the scenarios where you're taking vows and you're promising to honor somebody and to love

05:42:05.760 them when you don't do that then you are breaking your promise when you are not married to somebody

05:42:11.440 and you have a child with them you are not beholden to be giving the father the last name of your child

05:42:16.320 there's no legal obligation to do so so in marriage there isn't a legal obligation in marriage either

05:42:22.120 yeah no to love on and obey there's no and you don't have you when you break but you break a vow

05:42:27.660 you break a vow if you break a vow yeah everybody breaks vows all the time yeah but no you can't

05:42:33.180 nobody says you can't break a vow but you're not breaking a vow to give somebody your child's last

05:42:37.700 name you don't have to when you break a vow and you get a divorce there are legal obligations that

05:42:42.760 you have you're able to do it legally you're able to split things you're able to get attorneys you're

05:42:46.760 able to divide things nobody's going to send you to court for not giving your child your last name

05:42:51.640 she doesn't have to do it but actually i feel like there's a degree of overthinking here

05:42:55.420 if i'm and again this conversation can well predate well predate when she gets pregnant when

05:43:03.780 she inevitably gives birth to the child the conversation i can have a conversation with a

05:43:07.860 girl before we even have sex for the first time not that it would be i don't think that would be a

05:43:13.660 particularly sure uh i don't think it would have much of an aphrodisiac effect but i could i could be

05:43:20.280 like hey let's i want to see before we do anything before we date if we share values here and i would

05:43:26.060 just say uh hey just curious if uh you know we ever end up having kids where do you lean in terms of

05:43:32.000 who takes the last uh the the as far as the kid goes do they have my last name where do you where

05:43:38.900 do you land on that right i don't disagree with you right so i can have that conversation and i guess

05:43:44.540 technically it's possible she could change her mind but i i really don't think it it would be

05:43:50.500 so yes she could change her mind but i think if a woman just says about the changing of the mind

05:43:56.480 part that's not the part that i'm because we've already we both agreed on that we both agree that

05:44:00.580 you can change your mind about anything okay whether you're married or not whether i would name thing

05:44:05.200 but there i think there's a difference here i think if somebody tells me

05:44:08.260 oh yeah if we end up having kids uh i want them to have your last name i think that that seems like

05:44:16.280 a more static uh i i would imagine that that's a bit more static than like the nature of an ongoing

05:44:25.280 relationship that seems a bit more dynamic i think that what i'm trying to say is there's no

05:44:29.740 repercussion when you say i'm not going to give my child the father's last name but there is

05:44:36.520 repercussion and divorce and breaking your vows there's repercussions in so many different ways

05:44:42.940 there's no repercussion there's no ought to when it comes to giving your child the last name do you

05:44:48.300 see the distinction that i'm making yeah but he could actually like change thank you for the raid man

05:44:52.320 he can he can change his child's last name like later like you can actually like get paternity and

05:44:58.800 well she's not denying paternity she's no no i don't know no so what i'm saying is so so say

05:45:04.860 that she changes her mind and doesn't want to give their child his last name he can go to court and

05:45:11.600 still change the child's last name do you know what to change a child's last name and it varies in

05:45:16.620 different states because i would i came from washington by the way also so to change a child's

05:45:20.840 name first or last there's it's very very hard to go through the process and and i personally know

05:45:26.600 someone who did it and they they succeed i don't understand you can't do it but you hold on hold on

05:45:31.740 both have to agree and if they're changing the child's last name that means she's gonna have to

05:45:35.520 agree unless she contests it yes the hang-up though i'm i i don't know i don't understand the hang-up

05:45:41.020 here with the last name thing that was the hang-up with the marriage thing it's like look um people

05:45:48.300 don't get married all the time they have kids all the time i don't really want to date like a 50 50

05:45:55.180 feminist woman i don't think it's all that crazy that whoever i end up having kids with

05:46:00.740 that i'm gonna that that the kid is gonna have my last name it's probably gonna be something we're

05:46:07.680 gonna talk about but i think i'm just gonna make the assumption that of the women i would be

05:46:12.280 interested in i think it's gonna be a given but i'm happy to have the convo just to confirm it

05:46:17.000 what's the hang-up what's the hang-up though on this and honestly what it that wasn't the issue

05:46:21.760 but but but but when it comes the hang-up with with that was a response you remember you said

05:46:26.820 i gave you a reason why a man would want to marry i said it wasn't progeny i could have lots of kids

05:46:32.120 i said but a woman is able to say when she has a baby with her husband or a boyfriend or a baby daddy

05:46:39.400 she's able to give the baby her last name and she's got more of an incentive to do so and you've got

05:46:45.380 more of an incentive to put a ring on her finger so that she says i've got his last name so now my

05:46:49.720 baby has our last name right but this can be your but your your response is just i'll tell her not

05:46:56.060 to or i'll that can be had that talk or i'm telling you you have to consider that she has the choice

05:47:01.980 she has the choice in the hospital or wherever she has her baby she has the choice to say the child

05:47:08.100 would get my last name but okay hold on two things and more likely two things so uh that

05:47:15.360 can be circumvented by simply one dating the type of woman who would acquiesce to this request so

05:47:22.720 marry somebody who doesn't divorce you that's the same logic no no no it's the same logic it's

05:47:28.800 different but i know but there no but but there's still there's still not answers like what's the

05:47:34.120 benefit especially when he says take religion hold on hold on especially when he says take religion

05:47:39.260 out of it and i was like listening to a lot hold on no there was no religion i know but the last name

05:47:44.900 of a child is like not necessarily a benefit or an or negative because i mean my name's my name is

05:47:51.640 hyphenated too it doesn't really all right it hasn't changed anything let me just parse let me parse this

05:47:56.760 super quick okay so two things first um whether you're married or not the woman can make can can do

05:48:04.280 this thing where she doesn't give grants the last name to the children so that it can occur regardless

05:48:09.920 of the marriage status whether you're married to her or not right and she even if you're in marriage

05:48:14.860 maybe she does take your last name maybe she doesn't so the marriage isn't like a silver bullet

05:48:20.720 to getting this and then the other component is i can circumvent this simply by dating the type of woman

05:48:27.460 that would acquiesce to this or if i'm uncertain as to her position on this i simply have a

05:48:33.180 conversation with her at any point prior to getting her pregnant or even while she's pregnant i guess

05:48:40.700 although the ideal time would be prior uh i could have it on the first date i could have it on the

05:48:45.340 third i could have it six months in i could simply have the conversation and it's completely circumvented

05:48:50.740 but i guess man what's the other thing how i just understand how you can use that argument

05:48:56.080 all we have to do is have a conversation and that's the end that's what mature people do

05:49:00.700 and to what your point i didn't when did i bring religion up with the last i'm saying he said take

05:49:06.020 it out of it let me just finish this thought let me finish this thought right so i think certain

05:49:10.020 things are static and some things can be more or less static and certain things can be more or less

05:49:16.200 uh dynamic so in this case i think that if a woman tells me uh you know if a woman tells me

05:49:24.620 that she really really doesn't like um broccoli i think i have a fair degree of probability that

05:49:33.680 this is not going to change throughout our lifetime right but if a woman tells me that hey brian i'm

05:49:39.540 going to stay with you forever and i'm never going to leave you my confidence on that statement is much

05:49:45.900 lower than my confidence on you know like if i'm a betting man and she tells me brian i fucking hate

05:49:51.300 broccoli i have like high certainty 99 she's not going to like broccoli at any point whereas like

05:49:59.840 it's a little less uncertain with the the constantly shifting dynamics in a interpersonal

05:50:07.200 romantic relationship which are not always smooth sailing

05:50:12.180 so i need to move it on a little bit here though but um really quick uh the notion that dating younger

05:50:20.200 women is more beneficial than dating a little bit older i disagreed with that yeah okay so you like

05:50:25.060 you're against age gaps i'm not against it at all like i don't see like a you disagree with something

05:50:29.200 that's morally wrong i do think though that when you're getting too much of an age gap and you're

05:50:33.780 saying you're doing like a 20 year old versus a 40 year old i just think that where they are

05:50:39.620 developmentally is very different and it would actually be not beneficial for him like having been a

05:50:45.640 20 year old at one point and had a lot of 20 year old friends and then working with a lot of them

05:50:49.880 they're just still trying to figure themselves out they don't know who they are they're still pretty

05:50:54.700 impulsive they're still very like egocentric in their mindset to where it's like i'm inflexible with

05:51:01.500 my way of being and and you have to essentially the older person or the younger person the younger

05:51:07.480 person that's what i see a lot with young girls i almost think it's more moral i'm not sure i i'm

05:51:14.300 not sure though i i think that i think as people get older whether they're men uh men or women i think

05:51:20.760 people get more said in their ways and they dig their heels in a bit really oh yeah maybe i i was

05:51:26.900 the opposite when i was younger i was like still in that mindset of like rebellion kind of when i was

05:51:31.960 like in my 20s and i was just like you can't tell me what to do like i'm not going to submit to you

05:51:36.600 whereas i'm totally different now is that youth or is that culture culture like i think it's brain

05:51:42.160 development i think it's culture i i don't know i mean look uh look i think i think generally

05:51:48.880 speaking when it comes to age gaps and stuff i think the vast majority of women young women

05:51:52.520 they typically want to date men their own age like one or two years older or their age maybe

05:51:58.780 some a 19 year old would date an 18 year old i think although i think most like 19 year old women

05:52:03.500 probably like their age or like one or two years older yeah um so i i'm not saying and by the way

05:52:09.520 it's not like with young women i'm not i'm never saying young women should date older men i'm just

05:52:14.760 saying i don't see an issue with age gap relationships if a young woman wants to date an

05:52:18.800 older man i think that's totally fine i don't think there's like a there's no like moral argument

05:52:24.840 against it and i think from the i guess from the male perspective uh there's probably some benefits

05:52:33.660 and not perhaps also from the younger woman's perspective too like a guy who's a bit older

05:52:39.720 he's a bit more established he can be a bit more mature he can provide a little bit better if this

05:52:44.240 woman is desirous of maybe moving moving things along a bit quicker than her peers because i mean a lot

05:52:50.640 people i'm gonna wait until i'm late 20s 30s to have children i actually don't think that that's

05:52:55.280 an op i don't think that's really optimal although that is how people are moving nowadays i think it's

05:53:00.320 better to have children probably when you're a bit younger that could be early to mid 20s at least for

05:53:04.900 women um i don't know i feel like those girls had to have to get out and like live their lives

05:53:11.400 before they commit themselves to motherhood because it is what does that mean to live your life like

05:53:15.680 i don't no no i'm not talking about but that's why that's why i feel like it's very cultural it's

05:53:20.700 i don't i i think it's just because that's just what we've grown accustomed to i think it's normal

05:53:25.840 to live your life and and i actually have had a conversation like this similar where people are

05:53:30.400 like well i want to have sex i want to do this i'm like i'm not even referring to i'm just like

05:53:34.920 saying in general it's a very cultural norm to like want to party when you're young or want to live

05:53:41.340 your life i think it is like very cultural i don't even think it's youth because i mean i've

05:53:45.920 had two people who are really really young and i've met like 19 year olds who are like i want to

05:53:50.480 be a husband or i want to be a wife or but they were also raised in a very biblical like they're

05:53:55.680 very culturally biblical you know what i'm saying so yeah i think on i think on average most like

05:54:01.580 women even like you know your age and even when i was younger my mom was not raising me to like

05:54:07.540 be a biblical proverbs 31 woman absolutely not i mean my mom was also 15 when she had me so

05:54:14.780 again i think it's very very cultural and kind of like what you're shown what you're taught what

05:54:19.640 you're raised with that kind of dictate what your morals are until you've established your own adult

05:54:24.500 understanding of what morals are sorry i know we have really quick i'm gonna let some chats come

05:54:29.200 through sorry for the delay on these guys t george donated 70 dollars it is not worth it for a man to

05:54:35.300 get married because there are so many women using the court system to divorce men and take half if

05:54:40.900 not all of his money and assets we can thank feminism for that on this on this topic really

05:54:47.220 quick i mean i brought up stephen crowder earlier he was a christian guy they were both virgins they

05:54:51.520 married each other and she was a covert feminist his wife hillary crowder or whatever so a lot of guys

05:54:58.020 you know you you think you pick the right woman but i don't know sometimes things go sideways and

05:55:04.260 i uh i'm not putting all the blame on women but i i actually have somebody who i know personally

05:55:09.580 um who i'm not going to reveal too many details maybe i'll have him come on share his story but this

05:55:15.720 poor guy um i'm not going to reveal too many details but basically he's got a couple daughters and um

05:55:22.400 he he's he's very religious guy he thought his wife was very religious and uh she she ran off she

05:55:30.520 cheated on him and um he's he's going through a divorce now and he's he's getting kind of

05:55:36.760 financially fucked so and he's a good guy so maybe i'll have him come on because he's got a really

05:55:43.300 interesting story on that but uh look i don't i think marriage is kind of an l to be honest marriage

05:55:49.520 is nobody's saying religion is going to save you from getting divorced that's not nobody's saying the

05:55:54.940 sacrament is going to save you from getting divorced i mean it's marrying marrying the right

05:55:59.100 person is going to save you from getting divorced because you keep mentioning his christian wife

05:56:03.520 or covert feminist yes because hold on look and the one person i can name for everyone you can name i

05:56:08.520 can name 100 who've been married over 40 years i'm not around any people who are 50 well that's not true

05:56:13.840 that statistic is is it's flawed if you look it up it's not 50 right well 50 in total but if you look

05:56:19.700 at first marriages yes it's lower to be charitable but uh the reality is i don't know why you're

05:56:25.160 denying the fact that at least i don't know if you're protestant or whatever i'm a christian okay

05:56:30.680 marriage under like a uh more orthodox approach whether that's catholic or orthodox christianity

05:56:37.020 marriage is indissoluble you have christian women who take the sacrament and uh they're just vaguely

05:56:46.460 unhappy there's no abuse there's no cheating there's no infidelity they just fall out of love

05:56:53.100 and they're christian women and they divorce their husbands i'm sorry under true christianity my

05:56:59.300 understanding is uh there's a permanence to marriage divorce is forbidden marriage is indissoluble

05:57:07.840 can i explain to you what the bible says about marriage divorce and remarriage

05:57:10.680 yeah because that that's it's in the scripture that's that's scriptural you're talking about

05:57:15.920 this and i can tell you the scripture says let me ask you one question uh if there your perspective

05:57:21.100 as a christian woman if there's no abuse and he treats the kids well and he treats you well but you

05:57:27.460 as the woman are vaguely unhappy despite him treating you well and there not being any abuse

05:57:32.820 there's no infidelity there's nothing you cannot get divorced you you don't have authority to be

05:57:38.340 divorced you don't have any authority to be divorced under protestantism under the circumstances you

05:57:43.760 gave under any realm of christianity scripture bible what is so you can't you can't woman what's

05:57:49.440 stopping a protestant woman from getting a divorce she can she can go i don't know who's going to grant

05:57:53.680 her to divorce go get your divorce but the bible does not give any authority to a woman under your

05:57:58.840 circumstances who's unhappy to get a divorce the church does not oversee the the state

05:58:04.120 overseas anybody can get a divorce anybody can what are you talking about i'm talking about the

05:58:09.020 sacrament i thought you were talking about the sacrament anybody who's married can get a divorce

05:58:13.000 no matter what they believe in but the bible doesn't give authority to somebody to be

05:58:17.580 uh divorced except for adultery then but then why are there so many protestant non-denominational

05:58:25.000 christian women hey newsflash everybody christians are sinners too they repent they make mistakes why do

05:58:31.960 why do you keep holding this this false standard to christians oh christians are what you don't even

05:58:36.580 believe in this sacrament why are we holding a candle to the christians and saying hey well they

05:58:42.120 get divorced yeah they make mistakes and a lot of them are in error for the divorces that they have

05:58:46.520 but hold on getting a divorce is like it's not just like oopsie i tripped that is an intentional

05:58:52.020 action that is taken and then they could still be wrong intentionally but there's not an oopsie i got

05:58:57.500 divorced scripture is clear you're smuggling in the word oopsie scripture is clear marriage is

05:59:02.480 indisoluble what are you talking about sorry divorce is forbidden absent like abuse or infными

05:59:10.180 so there are so there are there are caveats exactly so you are what is your argument are you saying

05:59:14.640 people are getting divorced and they shouldn't be getting divorced are you saying that christians

05:59:18.320 shouldn't be getting divorced are you saying that there are christians who are getting divorced

05:59:21.100 and they shouldn't be getting divorced what is your argument you're you're bringing in

05:59:25.320 you're you're bringing in the the religious component to this you're bringing no no no no

05:59:30.180 you brought it in when you were talking about your friend and his covert feminist christian

05:59:34.280 wife i did not bring it in i followed suit you opened the door i walked right through

05:59:38.840 hold on i'm still trying to understand the point honestly look well he i think he's he's

05:59:44.640 understanding the point so that's fine look you you're like why are you why are you focusing on

05:59:51.480 it like why and i don't know if you're trying to point out like okay well brian you're not

05:59:55.320 religious so like who no i don't care about that can you be can you be more direct on what the

06:00:00.180 point is though no i'm trying to get to the what his point is he's saying he keeps on making this

06:00:05.300 distinction between uh christian this got divorced uh uh non-christian this i'm saying i know what's

06:00:13.240 the what is it it's just like it's just like at the core like what like can you answer his question

06:00:19.160 of what the benefit what's the benefit of marriage for the breadwinner he didn't say

06:00:25.260 there there are thousands of benefits to being married thousands of benefits to being married

06:00:30.020 if you're more biblical no no no no not for the breadwinner and if and if if there weren't i actually

06:00:36.820 i agree with you there weren't thousands of benefits of being married then people wouldn't

06:00:39.860 be getting married period let's let's let's weigh that argument there's thousands of benefits to

06:00:45.940 being married that's why people still get for millions actually for the dependent for the

06:00:50.840 let's keep going for the dependent let's let's keep going let's keep going for the dependent

06:00:56.580 look the reason i don't even know what that means you're dependent look if you're secular

06:01:00.500 if you have a secular marriage do you know what dependent means yes all right i'll let the chance

06:01:04.700 christinated 69 dollars chair three is disingenuous i have a child with my girlfriend

06:01:14.900 no marriage and made irrevocable trust so that whatever happens to me everything including

06:01:21.220 social security goes to her female propaganda trash that's absolutely not true not the social

06:01:29.300 security part i mean the other stuff you can get around but not i don't know i don't know actually

06:01:33.840 no actually that's wrong well it just depends on what aspect of social security because my son's

06:01:38.680 father died if he would have worked enough credits yet my son would get death benefits but he just

06:01:43.380 done up until 18 but not you and we were talking about later in life if he passes away oh i mean

06:01:48.920 i guess i get that get that but i feel like that should be more for the child anyway so i'm almost

06:01:53.960 okay if the wife doesn't get it so no absolutely but what i'm saying is like in your case and in my

06:01:59.940 case because my son gets it too had we been married because we were together we had a house we had kids

06:02:04.640 we had all of that had we been married when he died i would get double the amount that i have now to

06:02:09.540 support our son together and i was on my own and i but i still think that because we weren't married

06:02:13.780 i didn't yeah and i get yeah just okay um i mean i the super chatter might actually be wrong because

06:02:21.860 what i'm reading here maybe chat gpt is wrong it says social security benefits are non-assignable

06:02:26.960 yes uh you can't assign the benefits to another person or entity uh payments must go directly to

06:02:35.300 the individual beneficiary unless a representative pays i don't know whatever i'm not going to get

06:02:39.920 into the weeds on that but so maybe he's right maybe he's wrong the other stuff he was true about

06:02:44.660 you can go to the legal action of putting in wills and living wills and all these things to cover

06:02:49.360 everything else for her but when it comes to social security and all that money that you paid into

06:02:53.560 it's going to go nowhere if you're not married pasty george donated 70 dollars this legend to chair

06:02:58.540 six silence woman go to bed pasty george nobody asked you anything pasty george she says go to bed

06:03:05.960 get a tan pasty george actually he's he's he's uh don't don't reveal reveal his identity yeah

06:03:13.400 by keep him secret his uh what's it caramel olive complexion yeah i don't even know okay um

06:03:24.300 got beaten cheeks here beaten sorry i started for the delay on these nine dollars i'll get the

06:03:30.540 marriage under the law is the biggest tell any man will have under retirement plan for a woman

06:03:35.340 divorce initiated 80 by women is entitlement women don't deserve from men's hard work laws need to

06:03:43.700 change true well put beaten cheeks we have pasty george coming in then cheeks again and then pasty

06:03:52.200 george hasty george donated 70 a wise man would not marry any woman in the west or in any first

06:03:59.040 world country there is no benefit for the man she gives him children but she can use the courts to

06:04:05.700 take them away along with his money what women are y'all around y'all need to come to the south to go

06:04:11.120 find you a good woman because y'all are around these uh i don't harlots or whoever but i'm not around

06:04:16.920 this type of woman that y'all are talking about 69 dollars women will die on this legal marriage

06:04:22.580 because it's all beneficial for them feminism 101 also all waves of feminism is trash what is one law

06:04:31.700 slash right men have that women don't women oppression equals false

06:04:36.320 thank you bit in cheeks appreciate it uh she says that women have more rights 70 dollars

06:04:44.760 regardless of whether the man marries the woman who bears his child or whether the child takes the

06:04:50.640 father's last name the child will always have half of the biological father's dna nobody denies

06:04:56.480 science wins thank you pasty george also wins

06:05:01.220 that's true still lineage still lineage uh we have legacy who is this this name is crazy

06:05:11.080 anal skywalker donated 69 dollars chair six has made me rethink the idea of getting married

06:05:21.260 i always thought it was the right thing to do but now that i listen to these broads gaslight and

06:05:27.480 wiggle their way around the answer is crazy what are you watching i don't know anal skywalker that's

06:05:35.060 crazy i don't want to say that star wars episode okay uh here finishing off with uh your notes

06:05:46.100 siara is it siara siara siara uh you say a woman should focus on a career before focusing on marriage

06:05:53.840 and kids why is that unfortunately i do think that now because in in the world today there's not a

06:06:00.560 whole lot of men who can support a woman and a family on their own i think it's a lot i actually

06:06:06.020 think it's unfair to put that all on him in this day and age and i'm raising a daughter and i would love

06:06:11.760 for her to be more traditional but it would be very um it wouldn't make sense for me to raise her

06:06:17.620 in a way that says find a husband he can support you so i do think that she needs to focus on

06:06:24.100 establishing some type of career so that she's not completely dependent on somebody else because

06:06:29.240 in today's age you can't rely on a man to completely pay for your whole life and your children

06:06:35.540 so i think she has she it's it's she's a complete liability if she goes through life and she's

06:06:42.060 depending on everyone else a man the state to support her she has to have something that she

06:06:47.740 can stand on her own two feet when she needs to with with the mindset that i'm seeing today i think

06:06:52.320 you're absolutely right yeah because they're not made like they are where i've come mindset and

06:06:57.660 economics they're not i mean they're not but i i think they're i don't think it's wrong for a woman

06:07:03.660 to secure her you know her living expenses and be in a secure place financially but when a woman

06:07:12.580 focuses so heavily on a career to the detriment of finding uh you know a boyfriend a husband

06:07:20.180 putting off kids until her 30s or whatever i don't think that that's uh i don't know if that's what

06:07:27.440 you're saying that's not what i'm saying i agree with that i'm just saying from the from the ages of

06:07:31.920 when she's like 18 to 23 something establish some type of career so that you can take care of

06:07:39.000 yourself but i think these two things can uh can occur simultaneously like a woman can go to college

06:07:45.740 and while she's in college she can try to find a good guy and if it goes the distance grade but

06:07:52.340 uh i think when you say focus i think we're at least my interpretation is focus uh to the detriment

06:08:02.640 of so like i'm gonna you know what i'm gonna go in college and i'm just gonna have a string of casual

06:08:08.640 sexual encounters and not prioritize either during college or shortly after college trying to find

06:08:16.780 potential long-term boyfriends yeah that that's not what i'm referring to and that's not where my

06:08:23.060 my mind goes is like oh instead of a career you should be out having sex with everybody i'm just

06:08:28.900 saying while she's young establish something so that you're not dependent on everyone else around you

06:08:33.420 yeah before you go into like having kids and things like that i think that's i think that's fine

06:08:39.000 uh but i don't think the i don't think college and career should be at the detriment of

06:08:50.420 finding your person so if she's in college and she's establishing a career you think she should

06:08:56.200 just stop because she found a man she should drop out but i think some people will take take it too

06:09:02.420 too heavy yeah like they'll take it take it too serious i'm not saying you should like you should

06:09:07.940 work hard but it's like and i guess that's gonna depend on your major and how demanding

06:09:13.540 your specific field of study or study is but um i don't know you're gonna boss babe it up and work

06:09:21.580 70 like for example let's say you get your you graduate from college take a modest job working a

06:09:29.020 nor i mean even the normal nine to five has some complexities to it but don't don't go and do a 70

06:09:36.200 hour work week as a woman yeah i agree with that if you're trying to find somebody

06:09:41.360 that's what i i mean oh read rachel's i love what she's saying oh shit what's up yes rachel yes

06:09:48.980 okay uh shout out rachel thank you for the message man make marriage a sacrament of the church

06:09:54.180 hey rachel thank you thank you appreciate it uh 69 tts pull up twitch really quick we have a few more

06:10:00.820 notes uh oh that's weird why isn't it showing oh my god has it yeah you might have to refresh it

06:10:09.620 guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub uh i wonder if we're

06:10:15.340 yeah there's still a lot there's still a lot three three thousand guys i guess i'm just gonna switch

06:10:20.800 over twitch and start playing video games or something guys drop us a follow drop i don't

06:10:24.760 know why it's not showing the prime subs or whatever that's kind of weird it's bugged boys

06:10:28.560 but drop us a follow drop us a prime sub check if you have a prime sub available uh and uh yeah okay

06:10:34.020 blasting through the few little notes we have here uh sab gone we have uh i'll come back to hold on we

06:10:43.160 have dakota uh you don't actually provide all that many notes but we talked about the olympic

06:10:49.920 athlete quite in depth you've been celibate for three years um celibate for three years you had

06:10:57.640 this interesting situationship with the olympic snowboarding athlete dude or whatever yeah

06:11:04.160 did you have any further thoughts on that situation

06:11:07.140 you said it got better yeah yeah oh yeah you said that like got worse or something or no i didn't

06:11:18.000 say you definitely said that come on give us give us the quick plot synopsis there no i'm there's

06:11:24.660 really nothing there's nothing really to say just like we moved on pretty quickly after okay so yeah

06:11:32.420 lost her virginity 26 late bloomer is that real yeah it's legit yeah i was an athlete um

06:11:39.940 played a lot of sports it was a tomboy for the most part wasn't really interested in boys are you

06:11:45.180 toxic i'd say i'm pretty effing normal to be honest no i think you're not any uh diagnoses

06:11:53.500 yeah i mean don't we all have a little what do you have um bpd i have chronic panic disorder and i

06:12:02.280 suffer from like an eating disorder a little bit so you get panic attacks yeah it's i don't get them

06:12:10.680 often i've maybe had like 12 my whole life um but in since i was 15 that was the first time but i don't

06:12:17.980 think uh i think if somebody has panic attacks i don't know if that would in terms of how you

06:12:24.740 treat your boyfriend or i'm thinking more so along the lines of a personality disorder like a bipolar

06:12:30.860 no or bpd or something my mom is bipolar yeah okay uh my my dad obviously has some like mental

06:12:38.220 illness that comes along with being you have any mental disorders no i do not why do you ask her

06:12:44.660 i don't know i just uh is anybody here autistic felicity yeah anybody autism autism i don't know

06:12:53.520 you seem like i don't know i'm trying to get a read on you i feel like a little autistic i feel like

06:13:00.460 or you're just i don't know how you're special that way you're you're special you're special too

06:13:08.860 no not you felicity the girl i know i'm oh you're just oh i thought you were saying that in response to

06:13:14.060 me uh yeah okay um so you don't think i think everybody you're retarded um that wasn't very

06:13:24.140 i thought that was funny come on that was kind of funny okay tough crowd all right that's tough

06:13:29.820 crowd here tough crowd i thought felicity was gonna be a good sport no i did i giggled but i wasn't like

06:13:35.320 you weren't happy with it um i'll ride on the short bus with you thank you wait lauren

06:13:41.760 oh that was the that was the flake okay um let's see here i mean really quick i have a high

06:13:49.860 value christian man get your life together dakota ran shaki ran can you wait we're not supposed to

06:13:55.540 read just wait um get the dakota yeah oh wait we already kind of did go into like what are you

06:14:05.360 like what are your standards right because you seem super picky you know you're am i well you

06:14:11.040 waited you lost your virginia at 26 yeah that wasn't really like i mean i just waited for someone

06:14:16.100 to like me as much as i liked them and that's all that it took it was come on i swear on my life i've

06:14:21.920 always liked someone and they've never liked me back but you had to you had to really like the

06:14:26.040 person is what you're saying yeah it's not just like if the guy you had like medium levels of

06:14:32.180 interest for him but like he was super into you that wouldn't have been enough no right right we

06:14:37.920 have to be equally as into each other right yeah yeah and that's all it took yeah i wasn't hold i'm

06:14:43.120 not like religious i wasn't waiting for marriage or you know okay um this is as simple as that

06:14:49.480 because i mean look yeah i mean you again southern california you went to ucla uh you know you're good

06:14:57.120 looking gal i'm sure there are plenty of guys who were into you i know i would hope so but no

06:15:02.260 like i said i was a tomboy like my entire life i was a gymnast i you know was around a ton of girls

06:15:08.060 i was in a sorority i was a cheerleader so it was just like all females my whole life you know so

06:15:14.100 uh okay brian or felicity can you read it brian please tell chair six that she needs to lower her

06:15:21.360 voice and speak less if she is to find a high value christian man she's her christianity is

06:15:27.280 questionable she's a faux intellectual and a faux christian scholar thank you for the compliments

06:15:32.480 incorrect words she's black nala ray wow well look um thank you for the compliments i appreciate it

06:15:40.460 she's been married for was it 15 13 years or something 13 years yeah my husband sent me here yeah

06:15:48.340 so she did win she she she did uh she she she got the job done all the expenses paid so she got the

06:15:55.920 job done so uh yeah if you want to send another one though i'll i'll if you want to revise i guess

06:16:02.300 your position on that um going to i think this is the we have uh hold on what the heck

06:16:09.580 jacqueline uh yes jacqueline good job modern women men dating dilemma you wanted to talk about

06:16:18.960 feminism covert feminism interracial marriage dating what's what's your thoughts there i don't know

06:16:24.920 what did i well you just that was just a bullet point oh i think oh sorry was that the first one

06:16:30.020 i sent you or the second one i sent you i don't know i just feminism one of them i thought through

06:16:36.960 one of them i didn't think through you asked me to i just started listing things so i don't i

06:16:40.120 i don't know we'll skip those um you believe there is one church you say black americans are more

06:16:47.440 racist than white americans that's an interesting one why is that yeah please give it to me um let's

06:16:53.720 start tossing those felicity i i believe in general i i find that especially given the client of the

06:17:00.580 the demographics of where i live i just think that that's it's kind of obvious most of my evidence

06:17:07.700 i guess for a claim like that is anecdotal there's no statistic that you really can have

06:17:13.500 it's just my livable observable uh experience so i'm not gonna profess to throw out any statistics for

06:17:22.900 anybody i i forgot well i forgot what it was wait what was the question i he i don't think he asked

06:17:30.820 me a question he just uh wrote uh read from some of the notes that he had okay yeah it says uh you

06:17:39.180 also mentioned abortion as well abortion is wrong under every circumstance yeah you want to touch on

06:17:44.600 that oh sure a little um i think abortion is wrong under every circumstance period but like i don't

06:17:53.760 know he's not here and i'm just like trying to get the conversation i know um questions yeah does

06:18:02.140 anyone yeah does anyone disagree with her on anything even though whatever all the things that

06:18:06.000 he said that i said anybody have anything to oh she disagrees so why do you disagree well i just think

06:18:12.440 it's the woman's choice to make i don't think it should be under like any government supervision

06:18:16.760 um remember oh sorry no no that's that's it that's my that's my take so remember earlier when i said

06:18:22.040 he asked who has more rights or something along that line and i said women have more rights

06:18:27.080 um it takes two people to make the baby right but only one to kill the baby you don't see anything

06:18:34.600 wrong with that i just think if the woman is providing the child like she's going through the labor and

06:18:40.560 doing all that stuff i feel like if she doesn't want to have it then she shouldn't and in the cases

06:18:46.940 of like rape and stuff like obviously like rape is there's so there's people think that there's more

06:18:53.660 women who are getting raped in abortions when i promise you that's not the case absolutely not

06:18:59.140 and even when it comes into biblical stuff like sack like killing your child to make your life easier

06:19:06.160 is literally like a sacrificial like a ceremony like i oh sorry sorry my bad it's a it's a hot

06:19:15.220 topic for me especially because i had one and that was one of my biggest regrets i'm gonna tell you right

06:19:21.640 now when i tell you i couldn't even look at myself in the mirror without wanting to rip my heart out of

06:19:28.420 my chest right i felt lied to and honestly it the reason i did it was literally just that because

06:19:36.660 i wanted to make my life seem easier and when i tell you i really wish my son was here like i

06:19:42.980 i still cry about it i think the industry especially preys on black women to abort their children

06:19:49.700 the most dangerous place to be yes i had an abortion biggest regret of my life absolutely biggest regret

06:19:56.300 i literally had to go to therapy for over a year because i wanted to kill myself over that so and

06:20:02.320 it gets me a little choked up because it's taken a lot to forgive myself yeah for sure yeah well a couple

06:20:09.040 things on this um so i mean i guess question for you if we were for the sake of argument uh in the

06:20:19.000 incidents of rape incest mother's life if we were to actually allow abortion in these

06:20:25.940 instances would you then be against all the other instances of abortion like and like do you mean

06:20:31.500 like if as a source of birth control oh well okay so the other instances would be socioeconomic status

06:20:38.680 i'm having consent consensual sex with my boyfriend and i got pregnant right or you know well i mean this

06:20:48.240 would be the case well i had a one night stand or um or yeah i'm dating a guy but i'm neither of us are

06:20:56.040 financially ready yeah so if we go ahead and grant that abortion okay well if a woman's raped or there's

06:21:03.320 incest or the life life of the mother which by the way even for people who are uh pro-life they're fine

06:21:09.700 with life of the mother um would you be against abortion in all other instances yeah i like what

06:21:17.020 wait like no i no sorry no i wouldn't be sorry i got it confused so wait so like okay so in any other

06:21:23.720 like so he's saying he grants you that you rape incest life of the mother no abortion now all the rest

06:21:31.640 are they allowed to have abortions no they can get abortions wait so you're saying like in any case

06:21:37.940 like anyone could get it no besides these three cases okay rape incest yeah life of the mother

06:21:45.020 absolutely the woman can have an oh yes are you against abortion in all other instances where those

06:21:52.100 aren't factors no i'm not so you're for abortion like in other instances yes okay so then but like

06:22:00.780 in that case why bring up like okay what what if a woman's raped right well still like stuff stuff

06:22:07.800 happens you know like unprotected sex it happens all the time some people decide to do it some

06:22:11.920 people don't you know you have unprotected sex you're allowing yourself yeah what's it yeah please

06:22:18.820 play stupid games win stupid prizes especially on a college campus well as adults and you're having

06:22:25.800 sex you should you should make sure that you've got your bases covered if you don't yeah or or don't

06:22:30.600 have sex you don't have to i mean even if you're it's it's really low probability but even uh protected

06:22:37.500 sex there's still a risk of pregnancy we're not going to linger on the abortion conversation for long

06:22:41.800 though i do want to uh let's see i think we're actually good on the notes there's a couple here we'll

06:22:48.800 do this um let the chat come through chris one donated 69 well done chair number three tell other

06:22:58.880 chris he's wrong lol chair number three knows her stuff flexed bicep emoji uh yo chris thank you for

06:23:07.320 the uh tts man really appreciate it guys if you want um we're probably gonna try to get this wrapped

06:23:12.320 up here pretty soon guys so i guess uh final call ish final call ish for the uh for the tts if you

06:23:21.720 guys want to get it in i don't think we'll do a lowering so uh we're gonna do uh we'll just leave

06:23:27.300 it at 69 just because we'll leave it at that um let's see here we have all the like felicity questions

06:23:35.360 that i'm tempted to just do um hmm we did this one uh here can you see felicity just start uh

06:23:51.040 start here how many states are in the u.s starting with you we'll go around the table 50 50 50 50

06:23:58.560 this is just like our rapid fire what is the capital of the u.s this is a quiz time

06:24:06.400 washington dc washington washington dc washington uh how many stars are on the flag the u.s flag

06:24:15.640 50 50 50 50 okay 50 getting it right did we do this one already yeah and it was okay uh what

06:24:24.400 century are we in what's what we're gonna go around what century are we in center century

06:24:30.720 century century century well i said i said it's century and then you know what so century like

06:24:38.160 yes what century are we in oh my god wait i'm blanking i'm so sorry 20 20 uh 21 21 21st 21st sorry

06:24:48.160 how many are in a dozen let's start here okay we'll go other way yeah let's not put too much

06:24:58.080 pressure on chairman okay 12 and 13 in a baker's dozen okay well i feel like if the first person

06:25:05.440 guess well these are just really easy this is i feel like these are easy but you'd be surprised by how

06:25:13.360 how many people get it wrong uh this one start here okay going opposite way what year was the u.s

06:25:21.920 founded uh geez it's this one's a bit you got this 17 42 don't whisper the answer to her no i didn't

06:25:36.240 i actually check my contacts out so i can't even read their lips 17 17 let's see we just have like

06:25:43.040 the two i don't know 1776 1776 here how about how about we should be like does somebody have a

06:25:53.680 different answer oh yeah that's true no like uh like if yeah well we'll just have anyone

06:26:00.240 disagrees right who did the u.s gain its independence from oh uh

06:26:09.360 england no not england one of uh oh the british the redcoats those people correct okay yeah who was the

06:26:20.640 first president of the u.s george washington concur i agree yes um let's

06:26:30.080 go ahead and do yeah continue on this side please go ahead this one what country was what country is

06:26:36.160 the great wall of china in

06:26:40.240 you like this is uh it's an oh wait country country okay china

06:26:49.440 how many inches in a feet and a feet and a foot in the feet

06:26:55.200 in the foot how many inches in a foot 12 these are just some light easy questions because i feel

06:27:02.080 like the conversation is so intense for the whole show so these are just some final questions to you

06:27:06.480 know how many seasons are there four oh sorry okay four yeah uh okay we're gonna start with dakota now

06:27:15.280 and then we'll go that way um okay how many days in a year 36 these are so yeah what the hell

06:27:21.920 all right uh keep going how many how many letters are in the alphabet

06:27:29.120 26 24 26 yeah 27 26 yeah wait no it's 26 i was like this is so easy

06:27:38.720 maybe i maybe i should pick who gets asked the question um yeah you pick oh okay how about we're

06:27:44.960 gonna do um we'll do the code again um okay how many days of the week end with the letter y all of them

06:27:55.280 we need some like crazy answers here ask her uh what is a shape with four sides called square

06:28:04.400 yes how long does each president serve their term

06:28:14.960 should we just have everybody like no i feel like that wouldn't work wait what was your answer

06:28:20.720 you're asking me no no i'm asking for four years okay

06:28:27.440 here um what language do the people in idaho speak english

06:28:34.400 turn who came up with these uh how many oceans are there

06:28:46.720 okay and everyone names an ocean atlantic pacific

06:28:53.360 um that's a tough one i know that's not that tough

06:28:57.680 yeah i don't know oceans yeah i don't know

06:29:08.000 can i go it was it was a good try

06:29:10.000 wait we have to wait our turn okay did you want to get the other girls oh did you guys want to

06:29:14.800 answer indian ocean southern ocean oh yeah okay is the arctic ocean an ocean yeah there you go

06:29:21.360 yeah okay did you have oceans i think you already said atlantic okay someone already said yeah i i got

06:29:28.400 nine i'm gonna be honest i read just not about that okay what ocean is california next to pacific

06:29:35.440 i'm wondering if somebody guesses it do we just we just how about i think probably that makes if we

06:29:43.120 ask them and they get it right we don't ask them the next question like we move it around okay what

06:29:48.640 is half of one million 500 000 how many years in a decade a years in a decade yeah how many years in

06:29:56.960 a century 21 or 20 21. oh 100 oh it's oh my goodness i did it i was wrong thank you let's do uh here let's

06:30:09.040 do you if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg

06:30:12.880 egg that again say it again if a dozen eggs cost three dollars how much is each egg three wait

06:30:23.600 yes you got this you got i don't i don't do math i'm strictly humanities 25 it's not like

06:30:31.920 it's not like crazy calculus oh no you are getting a yellow car bro oh my god that's crazy dakota i

06:30:40.000 thought you were my caucasian i thought you were my caucasian that's up sorry they're so easy what is

06:30:46.240 the okay gosh what what was the answer wait what was the answer oh yeah yeah it's 25 cents okay

06:30:55.200 who are we starting with next uh we're gonna go her okay next to you uh what is the closest star to earth

06:31:02.560 oh geez i don't know the north star that's the one i can even oh wait no freaking the sun the sun

06:31:15.520 i would have got that wrong i don't even think the north is the closest is it

06:31:20.320 i don't know other than the sun wait no felicity what is the closest star the second closest it's the sun

06:31:26.320 the sun is the closest but she said the north stars like that's not even i forgot the sun but

06:31:32.960 it's also not the north stars i see what you're saying um okay who do you want the next one to go to

06:31:39.600 uh we'll ask it and i'll direct how many degrees is a full rotation of a circle yeah uh 360 no

06:31:49.120 yes this one's a bit more this is for dakota come on she's sharp she's smart you know if you are

06:31:57.840 walking perfect north and you turn right 90 degrees which direction are you now going east

06:32:04.240 do you know what year the war of 1812 was 1812 oh we didn't even ask the world war okay we'll do that

06:32:12.400 in a bit i'm gonna get it wrong um what country is the panama canal in oh come on i don't guys

06:32:21.600 don't don't add no no no i'm gonna be honest i don't got it okay just no what country is the panama canal in

06:32:27.920 crickets

06:32:37.120 yes do you want to guess just guess which country america guess guess a country um south america no

06:32:48.960 that's a continent gets a country oh a country oh france oh panama what did you say yeah i'm smart

06:32:57.760 uh here's for dakota where did the attack on pearl harbor take place why are you taking my question

06:33:01.920 in hawaii okay in 1942 for her what country did the vietnam war happen in vietnam no yeah

06:33:13.040 okay no you gotta write us oh yeah this one is like i feel like people get it wrong wait wasn't

06:33:17.440 it for her oh sorry uh in 1960 how much how much is a quarter of an hour how much is a quarter of an hour

06:33:24.240 how much is 25 minutes no no no no wait

06:33:30.080 you know 20 minutes no no quarter of an hour how much time is that a quarter of an hour

06:33:36.640 i'm really trying you got this you got this you got this

06:33:38.960 it's bad i'm really bad at math guys i can't do it i feel so much better

06:33:45.440 here you what is it 15 minutes okay okay who's the next one i'll just ask and you you direct uh

06:33:53.120 ask dakota what is 100 minus 34 uh 66 what is three times three plus one ten wait what not why are

06:34:06.240 you giving me yeah we're gonna stump you to cover that we're gonna get you what isn't it's december

06:34:12.320 7th right wasn't didn't the attack on pearl harbor happen today oh yeah it is what is three times

06:34:20.560 three times three three times three nine nine times three 27. this one is uh to her what does y-e-s spell

06:34:30.640 uh uh if you were born 10 years ago how old would you be today i was born 10 years ago today 10

06:34:42.080 good job these questions how many world wars were there two okay and this is for everybody

06:34:50.240 we're going to go around the table starting with her uh what decade was world war one what decade yes

06:34:57.600 uh wait decade like or century so decade would be like 1980 1990 2000 2010 okay 19 10 i think

06:35:12.960 yeah what decade repeat 1910s 1910s yeah 1910s 1910s yeah what they said

06:35:20.720 what was the primary decade of world war ii 19 i think either 1940 or 1950 1940s 1940s 1940s 1940s yeah

06:35:36.400 the 40s can you name three kardashians kim chloe kendall okay technically she's not a kardashian but

06:35:46.160 uh that's the same thing pretty much uh what percentage of men do you think are over six

06:35:51.920 feet going around the table like over i feel like majority like 60 percent i think that's not even

06:36:00.080 close i'm like maybe 15 percent in the world or like let's just say the united states uh

06:36:10.080 four percent four percent i don't know exactly i just know it's not as much as we think though i do

06:36:15.280 know that yes throw you gotta throw a number out 10 okay what do you think i would say 15 to 20

06:36:22.000 into the into the mic 15 to 20 percent go ahead i was gonna say tennis okay it's i my understanding

06:36:29.280 it's about 15 percent 60 percent dang maybe i just i don't know all the all the guys that uh actually

06:36:37.120 they're sure okay what percentage of men make at least a million dollars a year

06:36:42.960 here let's start over here just to switch it up what percent um

06:36:52.640 the one percent uh in america i'd say less a little less than one percent yeah like two percent i was

06:37:02.240 gonna say two i was gonna say less than one one okay what percentage of men have yachts have yachts yeah

06:37:10.720 five percent five percent okay what about you like zero point zero two maybe point five less than

06:37:18.480 one percent fraction of a percent point five percent that sounds good okay um do you keep a list of all

06:37:25.040 the men you've slept with be honest no like in your phone you know how you have the notes some girls do

06:37:30.800 that like yeah you have it yeah how long is the list i'm not gonna it's not long wait did she give

06:37:36.640 a ballpark or no no no i wasn't here i wasn't here um anybody keep a list no scrapbook notepad nothing

06:37:45.600 okay scrapbook what you put their picture yes some girls do that shit okay do you have a roster

06:37:53.360 no because you've been single for two years right like it's about to be two years yeah

06:38:00.400 no uh is there a guy in the picture currently yeah but i don't want him you wait you don't want him

06:38:07.280 like he's a frat guy but like you guys have been like a situationship or hanging out no i mean

06:38:15.440 hang out kind of but like i i kind of blow him off okay you blow him off oh my god poor guy um

06:38:22.400 okay roster have you ever had a roster yeah like dating freshman year of college how big was the

06:38:28.080 roster it wasn't that big not that big no like five like four to five four to five four to five

06:38:34.800 what about you ever had a roster no never i mean no that's like a list of guys that you like

06:38:41.680 fans yeah no what about you roster right now no yeah i'm very happily um no i've like hung out

06:38:51.200 with multiple people but not like a roster roster no roster no roster you have does that mean by

06:38:59.360 rotating you know like guys you have on call or something so how about here i guess we could do it

06:39:04.480 like no but you're guys that you're dating at the same time oh dating hooking up with heaven's no

06:39:13.200 i don't know if i believe that but um we'll do this one starting with her if you can direct it

06:39:19.200 have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them yeah how quick

06:39:26.560 was it san francisco 30 minutes definitely never faster than that so that was the quickest 30 minutes

06:39:34.080 okay going around the table no well yeah what was the question is that right uh it was like have you

06:39:40.800 ever slept with someone the same day you met them oh uh if not or if yes how quick oh it was like a few

06:39:48.320 hours like it was like a few hours okay never never never 24 hours no never never what wait oh well

06:39:56.880 the Olympic guy i was talking to him beforehand and we met it was the second date though

06:40:01.840 second date yeah what about you no okay anyone here ever had a threesome be honest

06:40:08.560 never maybe no and wouldn't okay i can't see the rest wait did we

06:40:15.760 you haven't like hooked up with the guy the same day you met him never no okay um

06:40:21.520 a pretty conservative panel that's what i thought from the beginning right uh foursome more than a

06:40:27.360 threesome i guess anyone had a ho phase show of hands if you've had a ho phase look i was young

06:40:34.560 and near a military base no near a military base okay this is for the girls what was your what was

06:40:42.960 your ho phase to everyone that raised their hands yeah what was your hope is that you had like explain

06:40:47.520 it in brief i guess i mean just doing it too often and indiscriminately with different men you're

06:40:55.760 saying though yeah not not at the same time what was your hope is fresh out of a relationship and i

06:41:01.520 went like first time in college and stuff so i just like went out and partied a lot kissed

06:41:05.360 kissed a lot of guys so okay uh huh and you oh just younger being near a military base and like

06:41:14.000 being like fresh 18 and stuff like that and yes uh question for you over here um

06:41:22.800 because i think a lot of people said no but um has anyone here ever hooked up with two guys

06:41:28.560 in a 24 hour period no not that no no no two in a day i'll put it in a week yeah what about the

06:41:37.280 seven day period how many guys two not no more than two no more than two okay what about the one

06:41:43.600 month period three in my whole phase yeah i think i could have gone like every week doing a different guy

06:41:54.560 okay um which is gross i i now realize that is gross okay um

06:42:04.240 how's it i do we just do like a 20 minute roast session there's probably chats that need to come

06:42:10.560 in anyways that's true let me get those in time permitting i think that's uh any i guess opening it

06:42:16.240 up to the panel any topics anybody wants to hit on here like any final thoughts from anybody think

06:42:21.600 about it for a moment chris one donated sixty nine dollars well done we did this one tell

06:42:27.920 oh my bad wrong lol my bad uh my bad i have the next one coming in sorry sorry about that sorry

06:42:36.480 sorry uh it's coming in in just a sec just a moment any moment now any second any second there we go

06:42:47.280 pro shot he donated seventy dollars yo pro shotty ryan good to see you again good to see you man

06:42:52.320 when do we get your partner brother back sorry new to the show so forget his name andrew also what

06:42:58.240 do y'all think about the smartest person in the room is usually the quietest

06:43:05.440 like i'm the quietest and i'm definitely not the smartest here so not necessarily but what's that

06:43:10.960 saying related to this um uh oh shit i'm i'm better to remain silent than open your mouth and

06:43:22.880 remove all doubt wait i'm missing a part of it um better to be remain silent and be thought of a

06:43:28.880 fool than to open your mouth and remove all yes yes thank you well done yes yes that's it i love that

06:43:34.800 quote um okay we have pasty george here my friend pasty george your best friend your bff in canada

06:43:44.400 pasty george donated seventy dollars to the panelists from chairs one to seven what legislation did the

06:43:51.280 canadian federal government use to forcibly relocate indigenous people and criminalize their

06:43:56.560 rights languages and cultural practices okay any canadians here do you pasty george do you also

06:44:04.000 want to talk about um i don't know how would anybody want to all i know is that they killed

06:44:14.720 a bunch of ostriches recently did you guys see that unbelievable are you an ostrich advocate you know

06:44:24.320 i love animals but to shoot 400 of them when they had herd immunity was crazy but for no reason or was

06:44:32.080 it no was it hunting they claimed it was like because they had diseases but they had gotten

06:44:37.200 past those diseases and had herd immunity so they should have been used for science to study the

06:44:42.480 antibodies and they slaughtered 400 of them the owner was because of the bird flu yeah it was because

06:44:49.120 of some sort of flu that they got which they all overcame none of them died could have used it for

06:44:54.240 so i think it was big pharma if we're going to put on our tinfoil pants didn't they say there was

06:44:58.800 some type of magic in like the eggs of ostrich or some type of thing yeah that's special about the

06:45:04.160 ostrich yeah i don't know it that particular i just know this this particular situation that happened

06:45:10.960 um well i mean as to why they actually the conspiracy behind why they would eradicate them they wanted to

06:45:17.440 kill them because they were diseased but really all of them got over the disease and science could have

06:45:23.200 used them to study the antibodies and they instead they killed all of them but i mean like i don't know

06:45:30.800 if i agree with this because like the lab in wuhan or in china they were studying the the virus right

06:45:41.760 and there's i mean i don't know if it's ever been proven definitively but the preeminent theory is that

06:45:47.920 there was a lab leak yes so it's like that in fact maybe it's probably better that we murked

06:45:54.320 some ostriches to prevent another fucking scamdemic no because i mean they were they were immune no one

06:46:02.480 got sick all all of the no kill the fucking ostriches fuck the ostriches oh my gosh you love

06:46:08.080 big pharma oh get out of here what would that have to do with big pharma they would use it as a

06:46:12.160 fucking pretext for another scam scamdemic actually true also if there was a fucking outbreak of bird

06:46:19.200 avion flu no mark the birds no mark the i know we kill we kill a lot of nine i'm doing uh what

06:46:27.520 we just killed like 40 million chickens because of bird flu murk the chicken which is why the eggs

06:46:32.960 were so expensive huh you're so educated on birds well it's politics that's politics they'd

06:46:39.600 already survived it bro all right are they talking about the who knows what's true they

06:46:46.720 apparently so the ostriches did were sick they were sick and they survived so science should have

06:46:51.840 studied the antibodies are we sure they sir yes are we sure they were they cleared the illness yes

06:46:56.800 this is major this is major news in canada but with it like how are you gonna test how do you

06:47:01.680 know you you test their plasma and their blood and then you get the antibodies from it i think

06:47:06.800 maybe we just mark them all just mark mark the fucking ostriches no well big pharma doesn't want

06:47:13.520 cures which is why wait question for you yeah to have avoided hypothetically to have avoided covid

06:47:19.840 you personally had to mark 400 hostages would you have done it um if covid wasn't lethal like so no i

06:47:27.600 wouldn't have killed a bunch of birds you wouldn't wait you wouldn't hold hold on hold on to have

06:47:32.640 prevented covid you mean worldwide or just me personally getting covid no no not you personally

06:47:39.760 oh okay then worldwide of course i'd kill 400 birds to to save humans yes of course i would okay i

06:47:45.360 wouldn't want to do that i thought you meant me personally of course like oh yeah no i don't know

06:47:50.080 i wouldn't yeah but i would take a cold i was about to say i was about to say like i'll get the

06:47:53.840 cold i was about to say actually i would also rather just get covid than murk 400 birds but

06:48:02.000 come honestly i think i'm down to no you're not look i don't like you're not the sniffles i don't

06:48:07.280 know if i want the sniffles if you saw the animals like your heart you're not give me an ar-15 i'm

06:48:13.760 gonna murk 400 birds stop to not get covid look i'm a busy guy i got a business no i'll be fine

06:48:21.520 but look i i don't want to have to not do a show for a week you're trying to be tough you're trying

06:48:26.960 to be tough right now and you're not trying to be i know you're an animal lover and you're

06:48:30.160 you're being fake this is this is yo chat let's do a poll in the chat let's do a chat in the poll

06:48:35.440 chat would you murk 400 birds to not get covid one time one time i'll

06:48:42.000 shit i might take that deal that's so wild it's like a like you have for like five days and then

06:48:46.720 you're fine look yeah you women when you get the flu or you get we're tough we get the man flu

06:48:53.200 i'm fucked i i got covid and i was fucked up for like two weeks that shit sucked oh i could just

06:48:59.440 imagine that you were i was not happy yeah i was there's a lot of phlegm i'm murking 400 ostriches

06:49:06.160 and honestly covid could actually unlock autoimmune diseases in you one of my clients

06:49:11.920 but when i first was like tattooing her she had super healthy everything she got covid and she's

06:49:18.000 terminal now due to like i know it's crazy so she would mark 400 ostriches and she has a great sense

06:49:24.400 of humor so she would think it's funny but no i'm just thinking about no i'm just thinking about

06:49:30.960 sorry but like what is the least i'm willing to suffer and the trade-off is i have to murk for 400

06:49:39.200 birds you would like about stubbing your toe really hard i was about to say you would avoid

06:49:44.880 stubbing your toe or something you would avoid like someone touching the rim of your cup honestly

06:49:51.680 i would murk 400 birds for nick to not get sick like that's not even me i nick if you got if it was

06:49:58.560 like okay nick has to get covid or i have to murk 400 birds i'm gonna yeah it's i'll murk i'll murk

06:50:09.760 no judgment you're what you're welcome nick you're what i'm such a nice boss what about me

06:50:14.960 what about me yeah you can get it yeah you can get sick for listening just kidding

06:50:19.920 just kidding um let's see we have some chats coming through hold on

06:50:25.840 boom based thor donated 69 there is no such thing as a 304 phase once a 304 always a 304

06:50:37.280 i used to murder but i don't murder anymore therefore i'm not a murderer ladies if beauty

06:50:43.200 was a crime you all would be innocent thank you i'll take it i'll just call myself a reformed

06:50:53.200 hoe now i like that we're all we're all redeemed anyway the blood of christ so all right we have uh

06:51:02.240 bluff is donated 30 dollars thank you brixon likes his 403s to be like covid 19 and easy to spread

06:51:10.560 it okay lord oh what what okay um they're really creative that's like men are creative let's just

06:51:24.720 call women whores like yeah love it well i think they're creative right exactly i was a virgin for

06:51:32.640 until i was 26 and i was called a whore yeah like if the she fits yeah yeah little do you know i like

06:51:40.480 to call nuns whores right that's yeah even nuns are a whore you're probably the biggest whore here

06:51:46.800 you're the biggest whore here felicity you just give me whore vibes especially young brian let's

06:51:52.560 let's see young brian oh my god felicity okay stop those blue eyes stop gooning actually i recently found

06:51:59.680 my like i think i was my junior or soft i think live both junior sophomore year uh yearbook photo

06:52:07.920 and i'm gonna post i'm gonna post on my instagram maybe throwback thursday this week wow i'm excited

06:52:18.080 that's weird i was like 15 you fucking guess i didn't like some of what you said abruptly

06:52:23.840 but your christian points were very well spoken you showed me i should be more patient although god

06:52:29.680 bless your man for his patience less than for his patience yes wait hold on felicity i'm not gonna let

06:52:35.920 you evade this bro so i said joe i said i thought you said junior that's like 18 no i said my high

06:52:43.040 school seniors 18 sophomore and junior yearbook photos which is like 15 16 and felicity was like

06:52:50.000 i want to see that bro okay okay let me explain i actually didn't mean it like that and then you

06:52:55.200 were like gave me a weird look and then i played into that i meant like that but i didn't mean it like

06:52:59.040 that yeah yeah that's crazy felicity oh shit okay no i only i only fuck older

06:53:07.920 i didn't say that felicity's just digging the hole here um okay let's see oh uh i was asking if any

06:53:15.680 if there were any final thoughts from any of the panelists any final thoughts thank you for having me

06:53:20.480 anybody wanted to land on something what are your thoughts i'm just to help that was a good one nice

06:53:32.080 okay um we have a i'll allow some more chats to come through we do we have some more chats to come

06:53:37.040 through pasty george donated 30 i chose not to get the c vaccines and i got covet three times and beat

06:53:45.440 at each time a friend of mine was forced to take them by her job and she died two weeks later from

06:53:51.840 sudden onset heart failure the myocarditis yeah man a lot of heart issues from the jab um

06:54:00.960 young crazed panda donated 30 dollars isn't funny how most women wouldn't kill birds be they have no

06:54:07.600 problem mess and the babies i've never had an abortion and i'm against abortion so i hope he's not

06:54:14.320 talking about me no i think he was probably general yeah but generally it's true totally and again i'm

06:54:21.040 guilty of it but never again never again i don't even care if it's a horrible way it happens it wasn't

06:54:30.240 it's not worth it golden questions donated 29.19 cents chair one your brainwashed feminist you lend

06:54:39.200 up like chair seven alone delusional and old thinking someone wants you even if they tell you

06:54:45.440 otherwise please change family gives you purpose not work that's okay mean mean person pro shotty donated

06:55:04.080 twenty nine dollars chair five sadly i think you are taken but you are as beautiful outside as you

06:55:11.120 speak internally to us we all make mistakes growing up i'm sorry about your loss but you are a beautiful

06:55:19.360 nice little message there thank you all right thank you pro shotty really appreciate it man um let's go to

06:55:25.040 twitch really quick we'll shout out twitch guys final call on the tts if you want to get it in final call

06:55:29.840 30 tts final call guys i don't know why it's that's weird um can you yeah try it one more time i don't

06:55:39.200 know i don't know why it's uh uh that's weird um can you click on activity feed up there

06:55:46.160 uh uh actually no no no uh click on filters

06:55:53.840 uh

06:55:54.080 wait that's weird well i don't know unfortunately i'm not able to shout any of you guys out but i

06:56:06.560 it's bugged boys i told you i always tell you it's bugged final call for twitch guys thank you so much

06:56:12.400 for watching on twitch drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one final call for twitch

06:56:17.040 if you have amazon prime you can link it to twitch quick for easy way to support the show every

06:56:20.640 single month all right we have some chats coming through

06:56:27.200 pasty george donated thirty dollars if i had to murk a bunch of birds to prevent another scam

06:56:33.200 demic by governments and big pharma i would hell yeah let's go uh oh we got sons of liberty coming in

06:56:41.120 so on soft liberty donated twenty nine dollars b i almost drowned surfing the boom in nicaragua

06:56:49.360 have you ever had a drowning experience surfing long or scary hold downs by the way trans women are

06:56:57.200 men i don't think anyone disagrees with that just a little sprinkle sprinkle you know surfing in california

06:57:04.800 truthfully like the sometimes we'll have like massive big swells but overwhelmingly the

06:57:10.640 waves typically don't get freak like don't get too big um i don't think i've had uh a super scary

06:57:20.960 hold down but i mean i've surfed i've had some uh i've definitely had some like surfing hold downs

06:57:29.520 where i'm like out of breath and i'm like probably a few more uh but i i'm not like

06:57:40.240 training for like big wave surfing or anything but like i've been out on

06:57:46.400 like

06:57:49.360 double overhead days i think and i've had some hold downs they're a little sketchy but i know nothing

06:57:54.960 nothing too crazy so yeah but that's that's crazy man that's crazy you gotta be careful of surfing

06:58:00.640 man people die people die um we have blah fest here blah fest donated thirty dollars every woman

06:58:09.760 should be able to get an abortion whenever and wherever they like it's their body their choice

06:58:15.360 the only condition being each time they should have to get a prison style teardrop tattoo that's an

06:58:20.800 interesting one okay i love the caveat they have a a little mark or something okay um they'd probably

06:58:29.360 do that trade like to ensure abortion rights in perpetuity you have to get it they'd do that they

06:58:36.560 take the trade pasty george donated thirty dollars yeah thank you i want to thank the panelists who

06:58:41.920 stayed for the entire show and to brian our host thank you all and good night p.s i will try to be

06:58:48.880 here for every episode but no oh hey yeah oh my goodness pasty george with the little the change up

06:58:55.920 hey man um i'd we'd love to uh the the audience likes you we all like you here or whatever man so

06:59:02.000 i know you said you were taking some time off but man you're you're always welcome if you want to

06:59:07.520 tune in and bro you don't even you don't even have like just watch the show man just say hi you can

06:59:12.720 just say hi in the chat the chatters like you man but uh you know i'm like pleasantly that made my day

06:59:18.960 though honestly that made my day to see see pasty because uh i thought he was gone i was like damn it's like

06:59:24.960 like lost a friend uh but good to see you in the chat man stop by anytime man anytime if you

06:59:36.880 you got some free time um i can't pronounce her name but chair six should debate andrew on theology

06:59:43.040 would be great you want to debate him not here you could just call him i guess dude call him i don't

06:59:50.240 know if you guys would what you guys would really disagree on but uh i don't know uh kanaki kanachi

06:59:57.520 am i saying kanachi kanachi kanachi okay uh is there anything else we have to go over no i feel like

07:00:04.240 i'm forgetting something don't lie felicity you liar you always say i feel like i'm forgetting something

07:00:08.720 uh let's see um was there a meme oh no no no you don't have to show that no all right well um

07:00:19.600 i'm trying to think yeah gee i'm just gonna say wait wait give me like 30 seconds to think if i'm

07:00:27.520 i feel like i'm forgetting something i won't fuck anything up we're gonna skip we're gonna skip the

07:00:32.560 makeup we already did the oh oh nick the uh the the the swaps the the ai okay we'll do that two

07:00:39.360 minutes we're gonna do it super quick um we have both gender swap and okay so super yeah last final

07:00:47.040 segment uh and then also guys while we're doing the segment if any of you want to get in a roast

07:00:52.800 you're more than welcome to 30 tts uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time hope

07:00:59.680 at 29 what about 39 20 years okay uh you're uh you're 38 yeah they're looking in 10 years time 48

07:01:07.760 yeah probably yeah 48 yeah i think so what's gonna change um i get a lot of botox

07:01:16.320 do you have unlimited botox do i have unlimited isn't there don't they sell like unlimited

07:01:22.160 i don't know botox plans or uh 58 what about 58 um probably better looking now than i will be at 58

07:01:30.320 okay and then going backwards uh are you better looking now or are you better looking at 28 now hands down

07:01:36.400 18 38 no okay yeah uh you are 36 yes right better looking in 10 years time 46 not better looking no

07:01:47.840 the same no okay uh 36 going back 10 years 26 better looking 26 no i think i peaked at like 30 to 32

07:01:57.920 okay uh for you uh for you you're 30 yeah better looking in 10 years 40 no better looking 10 years ago

07:02:07.680 20 no i was really overweight so so now better looking uh you're 41 better looking 51 no uh 31 better

07:02:16.400 looking oh no yeah 31 yes 21 better looking no wait 41 better than 21 no 41 better

07:02:27.280 41 41 i i'm i'm confused it's okay all right so 31 was better i think than 21 31 better than 21 i believe

07:02:38.000 21 better than 41 yes okay what about you you're 33 better looking in 10 years time 43 no i'm deteriorating

07:02:47.280 rapidly actually you know i love you gotta you gotta give the props absolutely she's honest

07:03:00.560 self-aware uh you have a great yeah you're so fast okay and then uh 23 uh were you better looking at 23 or

07:03:09.440 now that was basically my peak 23 you get 23 okay there it is so we do a segment where we put you guys

07:03:15.920 through ai we age advance you so we're gonna do that oh no it's fun it's fun yeah it's quick uh okay

07:03:23.280 we have pro shoddy hold on let me do the chats first pro shoddy donated 29 brian you do a great job

07:03:33.120 on your own it is not easy to run a fun conversation show like this andrew okay that's his name when can we

07:03:41.440 have you have you both back uh soon we'll get him back soon 30 dollars w felicity for doing laundry

07:03:49.040 don't snore or she'll kill you with a pillow that she washed he didn't die he just suffocated for a

07:03:55.440 second yikes uh thank you pro shoddy thank you big pull out all right we're gonna do the age advancement

07:04:00.960 segments uh one two or wait hold on let me yeah perfect boom oh my god stop you look cute

07:04:10.080 cute little grandma what i don't know this is a peek into our future yes wow why are you laughing so

07:04:17.760 hard i'm sorry ai is crazy oh my god really enjoying that sativa it's just because i remember mine and it

07:04:27.200 was so bad all right next ready keep i think you ready are you ready dakota yes are you ready i am

07:04:35.920 ready it's not dakota oh my wait what it's the other girl oh we'll show we'll show it yeah yeah

07:04:42.000 that's fine we'll show it just for funsies she's cute she looks like selena she's adorable okay

07:04:48.560 yeah she's very cute i'm sorry no it's it's totally fine um next oh no that was nice

07:04:56.560 it's good it's not bad that's not bad that's not bad you look like a southern yeah i do all right uh

07:05:05.040 next it's cute that's a big jump though actually it's not that bad it doesn't look bad that's wild

07:05:14.080 normally they age graceful i look like my father you look like your dad wow that's hot

07:05:20.720 hot uh next scoot scoot to the table just a teeny bit sorry beautiful daughters look like their

07:05:30.800 fathers that's what they say this isn't even like a bed i like that i think they oh

07:05:39.520 i look i don't look like my grandma there i should be looking like my grandma oh i need to get closer

07:05:45.040 before you show them i took out my contacts i'm very blind wait we're no we're like about to show

07:05:52.800 it yeah just squint it's really gonna help trust me next you're adorable too oh my gosh that's

07:06:02.800 adorable that looks good mine was the worst they gave you like a frog that was not i do that sometimes

07:06:10.400 i kind of rip next no don't know how cute okay cute wow how do you feel about that

07:06:18.880 um i look pretty orange i look like donald trump on the

07:06:22.160 yes you do you do you actually do i see it yeah oh oh that is the best

07:06:28.400 santa like a little gnome yikes yeah that's santa i'm already santa santa i like that i like that

07:06:38.400 great love it love it wonderful i love it that's fucked up um next oh the gender swap okay we've

07:06:45.680 also changed all of you into men uh so the question is would you date the male version of you oh this

07:06:51.440 one was no no i don't i don't think that looks like i hope that doesn't it changed you quite a

07:06:59.440 bit to be honest do you have a brother yeah i do does he look like that no not that bad all right next

07:07:05.840 oh it's her she looks cute he looks good oh you know what you're actually handsome whoa you look

07:07:16.640 like this guy i used to date the beard i do do you have a brother yeah i do but he that does not look

07:07:22.720 like my brother that's funny uh okay next oh yeah these ones are really good actually he's handsome

07:07:31.760 would you date the male version of you into the mic it depends on how tall he is uh six feet i'd

07:07:37.440 date him all right next um why they make you asian you know someone thought i was asian today so

07:07:46.720 that's kind of funny yeah i don't know what that is that's that's like blay blaysian or filipino

07:07:54.960 i think filipino for sure yeah okay i think it was because of my expression but could be yeah uh

07:08:01.040 next oh he's kind of looks like my brother oh shit kind of kind of yeah okay he's attractive

07:08:09.600 he's very attractive he's like a handsome wait

07:08:16.560 he doesn't he's black but he doesn't look black the hair looks like indian

07:08:21.360 it's because the hair it doesn't i don't know if that makes sense but he looks black but i i kind

07:08:25.360 of see what you're saying he doesn't i don't know whatever um next

07:08:31.840 okay that's free that's you

07:08:35.360 that one's nice oh really nice that's you if you have like if it was a more chiseled jaw it'd be a

07:08:43.440 win yeah my brother has it was a little soft you can watch it back after the stream oh you can't

07:08:49.920 get cancer i had to take him out my contacts got way too dry wait what let me see you kind of look

07:08:56.480 like a like a twink a little bit like dead behind the eyes that's how i already look all the time

07:09:03.200 i have like no thought behind my eyes um i don't know he looks weird i don't really like that hat on

07:09:11.680 next okay of course uh yeah i would date her the one preferably the far right i guess she's longer

07:09:20.560 hair whatever okay uh i think i'm pretty sure that's uh it i do want to uh what's that

07:09:29.680 uh well we're gonna wrap we're gonna wrap um just want to double check i want to make sure there are

07:09:38.800 no chats that came through if any do as i do my intro i'll be sure to get them but um i want to

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Whatever Podcast - December 08, 2025

NEVER Had A Boyfriend At 38⧸33？! VlRGlN Until 26？! Brian CONFRONTED On Marriage？! ｜ Dating Talk #272

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Misogynist Sentences

Hate Speech Sentences

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