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00:02:47.160 we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age

00:02:51.880 uh occupation where are you from and education

00:02:55.920 uh hi my name is sam i'm from florida and i'm 19 and i do content creation

00:03:04.420 all right uh what kind of content um adult entertainment okay any sort of uh

00:03:12.240 you know you know like like what kind um explicit content i would you know do bg bg content not

00:03:26.040 necessarily i don't want to go i don't really post that necessarily it's uh you know it's just a form

00:03:31.300 of entertainment through content i post kind of like an inside of my life just a little bit more

00:03:36.800 in depth than what i would post on like instagram or snapchat okay uh and any college or anything

00:03:42.500 like that um no i did graduate but i just haven't gone for any of that stuff yet but i do want to go

00:03:48.520 into marketing and stuff just haven't sure okay what about you hi i'm alien i'm 26 um i work at a

00:03:57.800 factory or warehouse or whatever plus i'm kind of do my own thing and then i'm also from arizona

00:04:04.360 okay uh any education college anything like that yes okay uh did you get your bachelor's well you

00:04:13.780 know i kind of dropped out unwillingly but i went to college yeah okay um and you do of f is that

00:04:24.840 correct uh sometimes yeah like it's up there but i don't really participate in it okay got it

00:04:32.900 oh that chair i apologize this chair is incredibly squeaky um okay what about you uh my name is sarah

00:04:40.480 tasha i'm 29 years old and i'm a poet i also have a master's in public administration from usc

00:04:47.900 sorry could you repeat your age again i'm sorry 29 29 got it and uh master's in from usc in what

00:04:55.100 again public administration public administration okay and uh where are you from reynoldsburg ohio

00:05:01.360 is where i was born from ohio got it okay what about you yeah my name is uh nazine noble i'm 47

00:05:08.500 a business owner a bachelor's degree in english entrepreneur tech enthusiast life coach

00:05:17.700 from la okay uh all right what about you hi i'm tiffany i'm 19 i go to ucsb i'm majoring in

00:05:26.720 poli sci and econ and i'm from here all right welcome here my name is val i'm 30 years old

00:05:34.260 and um i consider myself an underground comedian uh i'd like to shout out my fans i have a new name

00:05:41.720 for you guys you guys are meanie babies um other than that i barely went to school i just went as

00:05:48.940 little as legally possible so that's where i'm at i went i have some college uh that's about it

00:05:55.960 okay all right what about you my name is felicity i'm 18 from santa barbara and i'm a dental assistant

00:06:04.420 and i go to college for business all right uh my name is jim bob i go by made by jim bob i'm a

00:06:12.820 political cartoonist and uh i do social commentary at made by jim bob on youtube and you can find me on

00:06:18.760 made by jim bob on instagram i also brought shameless grift uh brian three of my my books you can

00:06:25.300 keep them yeah they're for you i'll put them on my bookshelf yeah you will giggle at those

00:06:28.920 the first two volumes are sold out there's three left me yep post truth booster cultura ad absurdum

00:06:36.940 you're gonna love them i thank you appreciate the gift that's very kind uh all right cool and wait so

00:06:41.940 um uh where did you say where you're from i was so focused on your books okay you're from colorado

00:06:49.080 got it perfect and did you get uh like a degree from somewhere i mean i got an associate's degree

00:06:56.440 yeah okay got it all right cool uh so we're gonna go around the table once more what is everybody's

00:07:02.540 current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest

00:07:07.540 relationship you've ever been in go ahead um i am in a relationship and i've been with him since

00:07:13.380 last october all right so eight months what's eight months yeah or what yeah okay uh longest

00:07:22.980 relationship uh two and a half years two point five years okay uh from what age to what age was that

00:07:32.620 relationship that was 16 till 18 okay how soon after that uh breakup did you meet your current

00:07:41.240 uh boyfriend um i met him last june so it took a couple months okay who broke up with who in the

00:07:49.220 2.5 year relationship um i broke up with him it was a domestic relationship it was pretty bad actually

00:07:54.960 so you were abusing him or oh no oh you think i know he was abusing me but oh you said domestic

00:08:01.100 violence yeah him on me oh yeah i mean i got my i got a couple hits in for sure but for sure but he

00:08:08.080 got you know he got a little more than me so yeah i left him okay so he was the grasser yeah okay

00:08:12.360 all right uh and then um how long have you been doing the only fans since last december you know

00:08:20.400 it's recent it's new so you you met your current boyfriend and then you were not doing sex work but

00:08:30.380 now you're doing sex work yeah so i started it with him last december mid-december was he like

00:08:36.800 pushing you to start it no it was my idea i was actually working for him he was my boss um i was

00:08:43.200 working in automotive in sales um i really like cars but then i just kind of got bored and i made it

00:08:49.480 and that was kind of it and it kind of worked so i started using what was at my hands you know

00:08:57.080 okay all right what about you i'm single how long have you been single uh basically all my life i had

00:09:08.220 situationships but never really had a real relationship okay and

00:09:14.520 what about the trees weren't you in love with a tree yeah i'm still in love with him i still go

00:09:21.860 him yeah how do you know well i guess trees do have a sex right yeah do you check how do you check

00:09:28.080 the sex of a tree i believe that majority of trees that are just planted around are uh male

00:09:34.900 they're mostly male yeah they're mostly male that's why pollen is so the pollen from the trees are so like

00:09:43.420 okay how many how many relationships with trees um have you had um well it just depends on what type

00:09:50.320 of relationship we're talking about like i have sexual relationship i don't have sexual relationships

00:09:55.680 but i have like one that i like i call my babe and then the other ones i like go and see as like an

00:10:02.600 ancestor type of thing or like i look at his as a friend or whatever so like a giving tree situation

00:10:10.600 sure once it's up if you found out the tree was a woman would you consider yourself bi i wouldn't

00:10:19.000 care has the tree ever cheated on you i mean probably quick more than likely it's the roots oh it's the

00:10:26.180 roots yeah they communicate through their roots so whatever is probably already always there it's

00:10:33.140 probably communicating to like the other trees around like this crazy bitch keeps coming over and

00:10:38.600 calling me babe you know what i mean but i love it so it's whatever it's whatever wait so okay to be

00:10:48.040 clear though you have been single your entire life yeah you've never what's the longest period of time

00:10:54.020 you've dated a guy six eight months six to eight months but you didn't call him boyfriend girlfriend

00:10:58.920 i don't really look to date like that i see okay um have you ever told a guy or a girl you love them

00:11:07.400 no okay so you've never been in love have you been in love with a tree

00:11:12.680 i love all trees yeah no love like i get but love in love in love in love well maybe it depends it

00:11:24.420 depends on like the type of tree that because listen i'm weird so don't like don't let me get into it

00:11:29.660 because then i'll start devil into like different things and you're gonna be like what the fuck are

00:11:33.400 you talking about okay sure uh what about you um that totally relation yeah like what was the

00:11:40.120 question uh yeah i can see how that could throw you off uh i'll repeat uh so uh relationship status

00:11:47.160 okay um i'm currently dating um exclusively and i am technically legally married right now technically

00:11:56.360 legally wait it's okay but you're not currently dating the guy who you're technically legally no i'm not

00:12:02.040 married too i've been trying to divorce him for two years now i see okay uh wait so

00:12:11.160 how long have you been seeing this current guy um about three four months now okay and oh yeah

00:12:19.880 longest relationship um was the marriage the marriage okay how long have you guys been separated

00:12:25.000 um two years two three years two to three okay and you're uh you're muslim is that correct i am

00:12:37.160 as-salamu alaykum okay uh how long have you been has it been your whole life that you're

00:12:42.920 no i reverted about six years ago okay was your husband is he muslim he says he is what do you mean he

00:12:49.960 says he is what does that mean because to be muslim you have to you know have some character

00:12:56.360 developments there and they weren't there during our relationship i see okay um

00:13:03.880 all right cool is your current boyfriend or whatever the guy you're dating is he muslim he's not he's not

00:13:10.840 okay um is that a problem for you i guess it is technically in islam you're not allowed to marry

00:13:19.800 a man that isn't muslim what about a tree i i don't think that's um been recorded in the hadith

00:13:29.320 like a situation like that um okay yeah sure all right um well we'll get we'll get into some of that

00:13:38.200 stuff in a bit but uh what about you well um longest relationship was my marriage um i've been married

00:13:47.720 twice one for 13 years and the other one um from a start to divorce like eight years uh technically i

00:13:58.840 the these two were the longest relationships that i've ever had i haven't been in and i'm single right

00:14:07.320 now you're single now yeah and i haven't been uh um out of marriage i haven't been actually in a

00:14:13.880 relationship to be honest with you okay um how long have you been uh single uh since 2018. so let's say

00:14:23.720 what seven years yeah willingly single what do you mean willingly single um it's uh for me is um it's just

00:14:33.160 it's not easy to accept people in my life it's not that easy it has to it has to um take its time

00:14:45.720 and i there's no rush for it and i'm i've been busy with business and basically you have kids right yeah

00:14:55.400 i have a daughter she's 25. just one kid yeah okay um and is that from your first marriage or your

00:15:02.200 second marriage first marriage first marriage okay and then um trying to think here nope that's not

00:15:09.560 gonna get me um so one kid have you been wait have you not dated anybody you said you've been single

00:15:18.440 for seven years have you not dated anybody for seven years yeah so you've been have you been celibate

00:15:23.320 for seven years um you could say that yeah what do you mean i could say that um there are things you

00:15:30.920 do to take care of yourself you need you do that but with a in with somebody no no okay and i and it's

00:15:40.920 because i'm just the i have my own um weird ways of doing things which is um i rather be on my own than

00:15:53.160 being with someone around someone that i have to tolerate them so i don't i don't think you have to

00:15:59.000 tolerate anybody you have to i believe you have to be willingly want to be around someone and whenever

00:16:06.760 you want and um and it's just not something you can find in everybody so you you have to take your

00:16:14.600 time you have to just uh get to the point that you want to be um available or somebody or find someone

00:16:22.440 that would want to willingly be around you i don't like these um social contracts of um the way people

00:16:29.880 do it it just doesn't work for me so no rush see what happens okay um and so two marriages uh who

00:16:42.680 initiated the divorce in the first marriage me who initiated the divorce in the second marriage it was

00:16:50.520 mutual both of us and we are best friends now me and my ex okay um all right and so one mutual why did

00:17:04.840 you initiate the first one uh we were just two different people completely different people i'm

00:17:11.880 um optimistic positive i love life i try to see beauty in things and um we were just different he was

00:17:23.320 negative and um the energy was just got to the point that i didn't want to be around that energy

00:17:31.720 i couldn't be around that energy anymore i see okay yeah all right what about you i'm taken i'm in a

00:17:39.880 relationship it's my first ever one and same guy yeah okay how long have you guys been together we've

00:17:45.960 been together for one year and five months now gotcha and he's the there's been a bit of confusion as to

00:17:57.640 like is he the christian nationalist guy or yeah i think originally maybe you misspoke you said he was a

00:18:03.800 white uh well those things go hand in hand but like okay got it usually but christian nationalists

00:18:13.800 got it okay um can someone explain what that is what is a christian nationalist explain explain what it

00:18:24.200 um so

00:18:25.400 a white christian nationalists would want to maintain america majority white basically

00:18:36.360 wow you don't consider yourself well what what's your nationality what's your ethnicity

00:18:44.680 i'm my ethnicity is korean but i'm i have a u.s passport do you not consider yourself a minority

00:18:52.280 well i am a minority so how do you feel about dating someone who's a white nationalist who wants

00:18:59.080 to maintain america to be majority white um

00:19:06.360 uh i mean i'm not into politics like that too much but i don't really care about what he supports

00:19:13.640 that like is that the insinuation that he'd prefer it to be majority white

00:19:22.280 you don't think that that's disrespectful towards you at all no i mean he's not saying

00:19:27.240 it has to be 100 percent white but what's the motive there is there like why is that you know

00:19:32.440 what's the difference between diversity and preserved culture what culture

00:19:41.720 at all but like just curious of your mindset are you willing to

00:19:45.480 to get plastic surgery to make your face more white

00:19:51.480 i'm open to plastic surgery i actually would love to get a nose job done but it's not to make

00:19:56.760 myself more white it's just because that's a phenomenon in korea isn't it i mean yes i guess if

00:20:05.400 you were to kind of deeply analyze the culture but i just want to do it to make myself look better

00:20:17.640 you're beautiful the way you are mashallah

00:20:24.280 sure um any question um

00:20:27.480 okay uh yeah sorry go ahead so and speak into the mic loud you're a comedian right

00:20:36.360 i'm nervous yeah yeah just just let it out this is my debut loud yeah so um my longest relationship

00:20:42.920 was 10 years that was my last relationship uh i've been single for six months okay

00:20:51.080 i'm currently on a break right now but my longest relationship is this one almost two years

00:20:57.080 nice um i have been with my wife for nine years now and we have three kids so but that tree thing

00:21:07.640 how do you has has me second guessing how do you feel about being married for nine years in this

00:21:14.520 day and age i feel like a boomer

00:21:19.560 um i i'm honestly i look out on the street here and i'm like i don't know how you guys do it today

00:21:25.400 like i was lucky to get out of that honestly and i'm actually not sure why uh so little amount of

00:21:33.000 people are aren't pursuing you know a marriage something stable you know roots in the ground why

00:21:38.920 why are people running around dating uh if isn't the ultimate goal of dating if it works out is to

00:21:46.680 settle down like what else would the goal be i just had a conversation with someone literally this

00:21:52.280 morning at like four o'clock in the morning about how having a child is a bigger commitment than

00:21:57.480 getting married but everyone is having children and not getting married it doesn't make any sense to

00:22:02.680 me yeah so yeah i mean does anyone want to answer that if they think that like dating's just for fun

00:22:10.200 if you find the perfect person isn't doesn't it just follow that you build something with that

00:22:17.320 person like yeah of course does it just stay like neutral or i feel like sometimes though like

00:22:23.000 especially people younger you know if they don't wait a while they have a different you know

00:22:27.960 perspective on it they don't they like they'll choose something they like over something they love

00:22:33.400 and within five minutes and i think that's why a lot of relationships on either side tend to fail

00:22:38.120 at this day and age because of literally that they find something they like more than whatever they love

00:22:43.960 so short-term choices yeah impulsive decisions yeah i mean short-term choices i i think can ruin

00:22:52.520 someone's not not their life it could ruin their life but it ruins their prospect for the future

00:22:58.680 because i mean i've in my perspective i feel like dating somebody is just like every day you wake up

00:23:03.960 and you're like i'm gonna date this person and then turns out it's eight years later nine years later

00:23:09.080 and it just that is commitment in itself and it's in a sense pretty easy i just feel like a lot of

00:23:13.960 people don't view it that way you know but i'm considering the topic uh don't you think that it's

00:23:20.840 possible that you you personally the choice you're making uh to do what you're doing now do would you

00:23:26.920 say that's a short-term choice as opposed to a long-term choice like being by my boyfriend just

00:23:32.360 pornography only fans adult content i do view it as short-term obviously i don't think longevity

00:23:38.040 it would you know work but i do think i have a certain plan with it where i can make it work

00:23:42.520 towards longevity i'm not just jumping into it because it's a money grab i am actually you know

00:23:47.800 kind of looking as a business opportunity so i think if done well you know with me and whoever

00:23:53.160 else who does it i think it can be done right and not you know cringy or however people you know view

00:24:01.160 it can be done a certain way do you think it minimizes uh the potential um pool of men in this

00:24:08.040 case who would settle down with you and make a family um no it doesn't say that with a little bit

00:24:15.480 of a grain of salt because i mean i already have a boyfriend you know and we're already pretty serious

00:24:20.120 and i'm pretty sure all that stuff's already locked in um but there is a part you know where it's if i

00:24:26.040 started you know oh i don't know if i can say what start i don't know if i can say it whenever i

00:24:30.920 started it if i was single maybe there might be a problem you know so it kind of depends on your

00:24:36.680 situation you know if you want to start it but you're single then have that in the back of your

00:24:41.160 mind you might not find someone because yeah some guys might not be fine with it you know i had a

00:24:45.880 boyfriend before and we talked about it it wasn't a in the plan so i didn't do it but sometimes just

00:24:52.280 happens you know but my boyfriend's much older than me too so he has a different view on things

00:24:57.000 how much older is he sorry that's okay oh my boyfriend's in his 30s so it's like third like

00:25:02.920 late like how 30s he's mid 30s so like 35 and um so you were in a relationship when you started

00:25:13.640 yeah so he was my boss i was working in sales for him in automotive um and then just randomly one

00:25:21.160 day i kind of got bored and i made the account and whenever i started posting on it my other

00:25:27.160 social medias kind of jumped on it and it worked and it's kind of been nothing but improving so i

00:25:33.480 just keep going with it improving you mean making more money statistics all over you know it's not

00:25:38.440 necessarily about the money either i like the impression i give i try not to come off on social

00:25:43.000 media so i'm just that content creator you know i like having other stuff like my cars you know

00:25:48.200 i like to do stuff on my cars and all that stuff so i try not to be viewed that way because i feel

00:25:54.040 like there can be a fine line with it and i'm trying to get right in the middle of it so

00:26:03.800 and how long have you been doing comedy i haven't really i've been doing it since like august i actually

00:26:10.200 didn't even know live streams are always white noise to me because i'm like why wouldn't i just 2x it

00:26:16.360 later and then i realized i could go in the chat have you done have you gone up in front of physical

00:26:24.760 people oh no okay not happening yeah well that's going to be required if if you want to call yourself

00:26:31.480 a like a stand-up comic at least i don't want to be a stand-up comic oh okay

00:26:38.760 all right sorry guys i had to step away momentarily

00:26:41.640 um so okay felicity you're on a break and then you're also single correct how long single uh six

00:26:48.920 months six months okay cool all right um i did want to start off with uh let's see

00:26:59.800 you said you're you've been you're in an age gap relationship is that correct yeah

00:27:03.640 what's the age gap uh 17 years i think okay so you're 19 and he's uh 36 yeah all right did i get

00:27:19.080 that right yeah my math is mathing all right and um is he a white guy no he's a black guy we have a

00:27:29.640 picture not of him uh go ahead pull it up what the fuck

00:27:37.800 honest and that was that was on your twitter yeah i gotta be honest um

00:27:45.800 i think any like if you ever get out of the of

00:27:52.040 well just the just all the osf but like that picture i think it's gonna be a problem for a lot

00:27:57.320 of guys what's gonna be a problem just that picture it's gonna be a problem i don't understand

00:28:03.960 that picture honestly all the pictures the of stuff i think it's gonna be it's gonna make dating a little

00:28:08.680 harder i'm not really worried about i don't know why i pulled that up but what like it's okay because

00:28:12.920 i'm not really worried about it and like even if me and him break up which we more likely won't but

00:28:17.880 if we do that's okay i will literally live by myself because i already have a cat so i'm technically

00:28:23.880 fine okay i honestly i think it does more good than does it harm so sweet when you're doing of

00:28:31.480 stuff with your partners do you ever think about your kids like future children honestly i don't

00:28:39.960 really want kids i mean i thought about it but not really i grew up where all my sisters kind of had

00:28:46.840 kids really early on so it wasn't really something i wanted to do um and i did think about it if i did

00:28:53.800 i would make sure of is long gone you know i wouldn't have social media i'd make sure my kids

00:28:59.480 wouldn't have it until they were old enough to process if they found out and if i did do that then

00:29:04.440 oh well you know if they found out they'd realize while they were in a condo in miami you know what i

00:29:08.200 mean so it's okay good times cool um here i need to go over a couple things really quick uh anthony

00:29:18.440 he bought something from our shop shop.whatever.com uh sent in a donation also still hoping to find a

00:29:25.320 decent girlfriend and he suggests oh wait did it not show up hold on wait oh it did pop up okay i'm

00:29:30.600 tripping yo anthony thank you for that i think he bought a sweater unfortunately streamlabs it doesn't

00:29:35.080 show the actual item but he bought a sweater sweatshirt hoodie from the whatever shop so

00:29:40.440 thank you man i really appreciate it anthony um okay so good times um i wanted to come back to you

00:29:48.600 um do you go to like so i'm not really super familiar with the with islam the faith do you go to

00:29:56.200 ma like a mosque the masjid yes wait can you uh open all the way all the way just open um

00:30:02.520 um so you you go on is it sundays or fridays juma fridays okay yeah

00:30:14.120 oh and we were we had you scheduled like was it two weeks ago three weeks ago but like

00:30:18.600 is it still ramadan no ramadan ended um march 29th march 29th okay so you were you were like

00:30:27.720 fasting i was fasting yeah what is the isn't the fasting though it's like just through the day or

00:30:33.880 through sunlight or some shit yeah so sunrise which is fudger it's around it was like around um 5 40 ish

00:30:41.800 in the morning and then you get to eat again at maghrib which is around 7 pm so and it diff it

00:30:50.120 differentiates based on the time zone and like where you're at in the world in the sun so does

00:30:57.800 in islam are you allowed to have premarital sex absolutely not that was my question are you

00:31:05.080 are you currently having if you want me to reveal my sins online i totally am engaging in premarital sex

00:31:14.040 yeah so how do you reconcile the whole islam thing with the you ask you ask for forgiveness i pray but

00:31:27.320 i mean here maybe you should weigh in isn't there like a component i mean even in the christian faith

00:31:32.200 uh you're supposed to be striving towards and not making continuous

00:31:36.520 yeah i mean i don't know the islam uh distinction for repentance or anything or confession but um

00:31:45.960 you know um but also isn't under the islam view is is don't you hold the view that allah dictates all

00:31:54.040 what do you mean by that that allah dictates everything so it's like that like uh that even

00:32:00.280 your sins would be ultimately dictated by by god judged absolutely no actually dictated like

00:32:08.040 like oh like written causal chain like determined free will versus okay yeah yeah um yes we believe

00:32:14.280 that your life was already written before so allah had you doing premarital sex already anyway so he

00:32:20.360 needs to you you need to forgive him stop it um no i mean no i he has also written for me

00:32:30.120 to ask for forgiveness so while i'm sinning i'm also it's written for me to be asking for

00:32:37.320 so you didn't you don't forgive using your own free will then it's actually just like a

00:32:42.360 sort of like a tentacle of god it's like he's wiggling you know like he in other words any movement

00:32:53.320 or thought you have or action you have was already destined to happen and dictated and written by allah

00:33:00.120 correct including the the worst of sins the worst of the worst do you think it might impede um i know

00:33:08.280 your boyfriend's kind of lukewarm about it do you think that might help or hurt what do you mean like

00:33:14.920 uh the premarital sex like do you are you asking me if he would be bothered by that being a role or

00:33:22.680 like what do you mean well you said he was like kind of lukewarm or he no that was your last boyfriend

00:33:27.960 right my husband your husband yes yes he um yes my husband um he was not practicing

00:33:41.240 100 and i think that everyone struggles in their religions and just in general generally speaking

00:33:47.800 i think it's kind of odd that islam is viewed as like maybe it's because the women cover up but like

00:33:54.600 they're viewed at a higher standard like even in christianity you're supposed to cover up and you

00:33:59.000 don't see women walking around in like none outfits you know what i mean i totally agree so it's kind of

00:34:04.120 odd that that's how things are it's like you have to strive for perfection you know yeah it's a lot

00:34:09.880 yeah get the rock get the rocks so wait so um i was i saw your instagram uh can we um pull up the

00:34:21.480 instagram all right there it is um scroll down a little bit what pause pause scroll back whoa up scroll

00:34:30.120 up okay wait so don't scroll back down yet but that one in the bottom left well the um

00:34:38.200 um okay fuck it scroll down bro that's looking right down main street right down main street if

00:34:50.840 that's where your eyes are gonna go then that's where your eyes are gonna go it's not my fault how

00:34:55.160 do you how do you reconcile is islam that's crazy and

00:35:03.080 just spread legs spread she already said lala pre-wrote her instagram account to do that yeah

00:35:12.600 technically so i'll show it also i'd say that how does like accountability exist within the religion

00:35:19.640 then what do you mean how does accountability i think the accountability is you what's the point of

00:35:25.960 uh uh repentance or what's what where's the commitment to the religion if if it's just a word

00:35:34.440 so it's just the word so you can just say i was born as muslim but then i want to do whatever i want to

00:35:41.960 do but but why why stick into that when you want to do this what's what's where is the

00:35:48.120 um where is the line i think that people or i i would say that i am muslim i'm not islam so islam

00:35:59.480 is perfect and i'm not perfect and i think that especially as someone who as a woman who is going

00:36:05.800 through divorce i think i'm expressing my empowerment in a different way and my instagram did not look like

00:36:12.840 that nine months ago i think i've overgone like a transformation of some sort can you tell me

00:36:19.720 though because if you hold an an islam view ultimately something like empowerment would have

00:36:27.160 to be filtered through the the muslim view right so can you tell me how a picture like that is

00:36:34.040 considered empowerment under islam i don't think i hold the islamic perspective because i'm not islam

00:36:41.400 i'm a muslim so that's a that's like me saying i'm a christian but i don't hold to christian doctrine

00:36:47.800 no that's not like you saying that what i'm saying is i have a human way of thinking and my human way

00:36:53.240 of thinking is not as perfect as the islamic law but you know so are you saying that's not empowerment

00:37:02.200 no i'm saying that my woman empowerment and how i view it is completely separate from islam and how

00:37:09.480 they view women empowerment women empowerment through islam is projected to be hijab fully

00:37:17.080 covered with staining from sex you wait until you're married all that okay separate from islam

00:37:23.800 what do you think women's woman empowerment actually is then from your view in this day and age i definitely

00:37:30.760 think it's owning who you are owning who you are owning your body owning your right to choose

00:37:36.040 i think that while we have religious beliefs in general it doesn't fully align with current day

00:37:47.240 and age and it takes a special kind of person to be able to persevere through am i allowed to cuss

00:37:55.000 i don't know if i'm allowed to cuss but like be like fuck what's going on in this day and age i'm

00:37:58.440 gonna just fully be submerged in my religion that takes a special kind of human being and

00:38:02.520 i have my flesh too like i'm not perfect like i said i'm not islam i'm a muslim it seems like this

00:38:10.200 day and age what you're doing is actually the easier thing to do and the the rebellious thing

00:38:15.000 to do in this day and age is actually uh be uh humble and subtle right that seems to be harder

00:38:21.800 especially in the west i agree would you agree i agree to be modest is actually the challenge so

00:38:27.080 that's why i think like empowerment if empowerment for women means basically share your body and call

00:38:33.720 it liberation um i think it's easy to do that it's not it doesn't take much so that's why i'm like

00:38:40.120 wondering how could how could someone call it empowerment if it's so easy to do i disagree with

00:38:45.160 that only because a lot of women a lot of people are not confident confident and comfortable with their

00:38:51.080 bodies well if someone's uncomfortable in principle in showing their body would you equate that with

00:39:00.120 that they're not confident in their body because i could see how someone could be confident in their

00:39:05.160 body but just not share it with the entire world that's why i said it's and be not like or because you

00:39:11.480 could be confident with your body and be uncomfortable showing it or you can be comfortable with your body

00:39:18.120 and be uncomfortable showing it okay are you committed to marrying or remarrying a muslim man

00:39:26.520 yes i'm still muslim and i still would like to marry a muslim man um but a liberated empowered man who

00:39:34.200 like who likes his wife half naked i don't spread eagle on instagram because because just to call you out

00:39:40.280 you called her out for correctly so by the way you said don't you think what you're doing now could affect

00:39:46.040 the future of having children i didn't call you i didn't call you out well i was asking you a

00:39:49.480 question well no it's a good question about that you are okay no it's fine i'm not saying it like

00:39:53.000 confrontational i'm saying that that's a good question but you need to ask yourself the same

00:39:58.040 question specifically because if you're looking for a muslim man they're going to be even more rigorous

00:40:03.560 than the modern man that you're probably questioning her about um when he sees that you know what is he

00:40:10.680 going what is this potential uh um strict let's say a strict um muslim practitioner is going to say

00:40:18.120 about that i don't think with where i'm at in my life i don't think i would be in a situation where

00:40:24.280 i'd be married to a strict muslim man um so a weak muslim man i wouldn't say weak either i think there's

00:40:31.320 different levels of commitment and religion across the board and this is and it is currently a conversation

00:40:37.800 on my instagram i don't hide that i'm muslim i say alhamdulillah like all i speak it in my regular

00:40:43.400 everyday speech um and it just it stands that regardless of what religious belief that you say

00:40:53.320 you have i think everyone struggles in some perspective do you think there's as many forms

00:41:00.200 of islam as there are people what do you mean i mean you're saying well there's a wide spectrum of

00:41:07.720 people's beliefs and how they hold or practice islam but that kind of says that it's like

00:41:13.160 relativist it's like it's like there's no right way do you hold are you willing to say that there's

00:41:18.840 no right correct way to practice islam no when i well let me rephrase what i said when i say everyone

00:41:25.320 has religious beliefs i'd mean christianity judaism whatever you believe in you're not perfect in your

00:41:31.480 religion so i wasn't saying that there's you could worship in islam any type of way you want to know

00:41:38.360 what's wrong is wrong and i don't think that what i'm doing on my instagram is a hundred percent

00:41:43.320 correct no but i also have myself and my flesh in the things that i struggle with would you put a

00:41:50.280 percent on incorrect that it is um it would be a hundred percent incorrect from an islam view

00:41:57.480 from an islamic view of how a muslim should be dressed absolutely a hundred percent incorrect

00:42:02.680 if you want to talk about intention though that's a completely different story what is the intention

00:42:06.760 with that kind of content as i stated woman empowerment i think you know i wasn't asked why i'm

00:42:13.320 going through a divorce but men have a way of completely breaking you if you allow them to

00:42:20.040 on a spiritual mental emotional sometimes even physical level and i was in a marriage where i got

00:42:27.320 broken into pieces and i allowed him to do that because when you're married to someone you become

00:42:32.680 immersed in each other's lives and you it's very hard to find that separation line and it took me

00:42:38.680 a long time to even get to where i'm at and be comfortable with my body and confident in it

00:42:43.560 enough to even post something i know but it's just weird because before you criticize this man for

00:42:48.600 being like a lukewarm muslim but your your reaction to it your empowerment reaction your very definition

00:42:55.880 of empowerment is lukewarm islam i disagree with that too because islam is not just how you look it's

00:43:03.400 about how you treat people but how you treat yourself though but isn't there an element of treating

00:43:08.280 yourself a certain way i don't think i don't feel in my heart of hearts that i'm mistreating myself

00:43:16.040 but islam and what is more important from my perspective is how you go about treating humanity

00:43:23.160 over how you look because i could look muslim and be a complete asshole i think you're kind of picking

00:43:30.040 and choosing what you want from the religion when you're actually one foot in and one foot out

00:43:34.680 how so when i said my instagram was 100 wrong wait say that again i said my instagram and how

00:43:43.480 it looks was 100 wrong in terms of islam islamic rules so how am i picking your actions you're still

00:43:50.360 choosing to post those kind of pictures because i have weaknesses as a human being

00:43:55.160 and that's how i'm going about portraying myself but how i'm portraying myself is not islamic and it

00:44:01.160 is wrong i didn't pick and choose anything you're you're not making an action though you're not

00:44:06.520 consciously like choosing to align yourself with the laws of your religion what do you mean you're it's in

00:44:15.000 a contradiction she's saying it's also a contradiction in one sentence you're saying this is 100 wrong and i

00:44:22.280 know it and you're calling yourself a muslim and then premise two is this is empowering so both of

00:44:28.360 those can't be true if you call yourself a muslim that's incorrect because i would pose the same

00:44:34.040 question to christians that drink excessively or do drugs but want to call themselves christians

00:44:39.800 the fact of the matter is religion one of the reasons it exists is because we are all not perfect

00:44:45.640 and we're striving to be perfect that's not a good analogy though because a christian who's a drunkard

00:44:50.520 which means that he's incapable of fulfilling his duties not to say someone getting drunk is

00:44:55.240 unchristian it's that the perpetuation of disabling yourself such that you can't fulfill your duties

00:45:00.600 that would be unchristian but even in that example that that christian would only it would only be

00:45:05.960 analogous for you to say that if they said this is empowering you lost me a little bit they would

00:45:11.880 have to say being drunk which is antithetical to christianity being a drunkard if they said it's

00:45:17.720 empowering that's what you're saying about those pictures so you're saying it's totally wrong and

00:45:22.680 inconsistent with islam but you're saying it's empowering whereas the drunkard christian is not

00:45:28.680 saying it's empowering they're not defending it they're just saying they're weak and they need help

00:45:32.520 and they want they they will repent you're not saying any of that you're just saying i'm empowered

00:45:38.440 i'm saying that on a flesh level and how i think in this worldly society it is empowering to me

00:45:44.920 if on an islamic level that's a completely different conversation and it's a hundred percent

00:45:50.120 incorrect that's where you lost me when you were like oh you're picking choosing stuff from the

00:45:53.800 religion no i'm not it's a hundred percent wrong to post stuff like that on instagram it's a hundred

00:46:00.120 percent wrong for me to be sitting here on this podcast with my hair exposed it's a hundred percent

00:46:05.240 how do you um how do you define empowerment i would define empowerment by

00:46:11.800 get the rocks anything that liberates you as the person you want to be so i'm a woman anything

00:46:18.680 that is liberating me as a woman in today's society i would define as empowering can i add

00:46:24.040 something i think everyone's just having a hard time because like you judged your ex-husband

00:46:30.680 for not being a strong muslim so it's like you know i judged him for how he treated people

00:46:37.400 not how he looked well not on the way that he looks but i'm just saying like the fact that you're

00:46:43.880 saying like what what she's saying is what if your ex said treating people that way he found empowering

00:46:51.800 as a man you know like you know aggressive man mistreating people you know yelling whatever he's

00:46:56.520 doing right like the fact that you're the way that you're presenting yourself online like i don't have

00:47:01.320 a problem with it by the way i don't give a fuck but like the way that you're presenting yourself that

00:47:05.720 you're not a strong like muslim like the way that you portrayed him earlier you know what i mean

00:47:10.600 i would say that you're entitled to your opinion and i wouldn't argue with that however i think

00:47:16.440 islam i think all religions well we're talking about islam let me not make this all religions

00:47:21.240 in islam it is more important how you go about treating people and how you maneuver through the

00:47:26.920 world and how you look that's a superficial is that written in the book of islam is what written

00:47:32.520 in the book what you're saying or the quran yeah that treating people in kindness is more important

00:47:38.760 than um being modest no it doesn't say that i can't so then why are you making the judgment i'm

00:47:46.680 making the judgment because if i decide to come over there and like do something to you physically

00:47:51.640 wouldn't that be worse than me just sitting here looking like this that's coming from your own mind

00:47:57.320 though god should be the judge of whether or not do you want to ask him would you like to ask well

00:48:03.320 we already have we are no we already established that's why it's kind of a roundabout uh argument

00:48:08.600 because ultimately islam holds that it's all determined so you know even for you to say since

00:48:14.200 these pictures are inconsistent with islam they are for me i would critique and say well they can't be

00:48:21.240 inconsistent because that those pictures were determined and written by all anyway so that can't that

00:48:27.240 can't be inconsistent with islam it's is allah is determining the way your husband treated other

00:48:32.760 people and you posting those photos it is inconsistent with islam because my life story

00:48:37.480 and my husband's life story and all the muslims life stories are not the quran it's not the hadith

00:48:43.720 it's not islamic law like we have our own journeys so yeah it's like subject you have a subjective

00:48:50.280 you're basically writing your own religion inside of your religion right allah wrote my life story

00:48:55.960 inside of islam right so then it's not inconsistent it's a determinist view that says allah being

00:49:04.200 the dictator of all pointed and made it so before you even did it that you would do those pictures

00:49:10.920 so in a sense a shortcut would be to say allah posted those pictures correct no i posted those

00:49:16.920 pictures no but allah used you to post those pictures right in some person but yeah if you want

00:49:22.920 to view it that way and to your point i do remember it does say there are ayahs which is

00:49:27.960 like a verse in the quran that does say that all sins are not equal it doesn't directly say that

00:49:33.080 modesty is more important than how you treat people but it does say that sins are not all equal

00:49:38.920 would you say you have a personal relationship with god absolutely and i don't think my relationship

00:49:43.400 with allah should be judged by my instagram okay how should your relationship be judged by i actually

00:49:53.400 think it's inappropriate for you to use a photo to say whether someone is no no my question was then

00:50:00.440 how should a person i don't think you should judge i don't think how should allah judge your photos

00:50:06.520 being that he crafted them himself i think allah is gonna judge me on not just the photos but also

00:50:15.800 the intent behind me posting the photos and what led from me posting those photos meaning like what

00:50:24.520 the reaction from the public i'm gonna be judged by what people thought the thoughts that i provoked

00:50:30.600 and what people did with those photos so then why do the laws of islam exist in the first place

00:50:36.680 what do you mean if god judges you just based off your intention why put yourself under that religion

00:50:42.280 why saying that you're muslim why just don't break the barrier and say i don't believe in religion i do

00:50:50.040 whatever i want to do is that the question you meant to ask or like are these two different questions

00:50:54.600 um sort of yeah okay well i'm more well first of all when i was 25 i had a break i don't know who i

00:51:04.200 don't know if anyone said they graduated from college with like a bachelor's degree but like once you

00:51:08.120 graduate i was so depressed like i lost like i think when you're in college it kind of like has a way of

00:51:15.240 making you feel like that's the world but then you you graduate and you're actually exposed to the real

00:51:19.720 world and i like had a break um when i was christian i was so dedicated i went to wednesday

00:51:28.520 after church i went to sunday like sunday church and all that stuff with my mom i read the bible

00:51:35.400 i did research on christianity i even took a class in college and after i i graduated just wasn't

00:51:41.240 resonating with me i felt really lost and i was like i need to find something to believe in and i i

00:51:46.440 did research and islam resonated with me the most it's a religion of logic so you couldn't

00:51:53.640 it's a religion of logic but there's a contradiction in wait so you convert there's no wait hold on

00:51:57.960 let me say this there's no contradiction because it's wrong if i decide to take a shot right now on

00:52:05.160 the stream it can't be wrong no it can't be wrong if allah dictated it allah can write for you to sin

00:52:13.560 just for it to be a piece in the story of something halal but that means allah sins that's a contradiction

00:52:19.800 no allah is not me is allah the source the name is allah's nature the nature of good you guys i do not

00:52:27.720 subscribe to this conversation i'm just saying you said there's no contradiction but as soon as you say

00:52:33.480 you're a you're a muslim and then as soon as you start saying well what i believe isn't islam i am

00:52:40.200 my own person you're basically taking a disney disney character approach to your own religion

00:52:45.480 but we're calling you out and saying if you're going to declare that your ex you know on whatever

00:52:50.920 here millions of people millions of muslims perhaps even listening yeah they're going to say in

00:52:56.600 reference to what are you calling yourself muslim and if you don't say islam then i'm not sure what

00:53:02.200 you're saying you are which is what she's asking what or what you ask why call yourself something that

00:53:06.680 you're not willing to hold yourself to because you're you're basically crafting an avatar called

00:53:12.840 you and going well i don't i don't need to follow this this is my own journey i'm liberated and then

00:53:19.160 but you're saying but i'm still part of this beautiful religion you know this is a contradiction

00:53:24.280 you can't have both of those things it's not a contradiction you could have a perfect rule book

00:53:29.080 of how you should go about living your life and do your best to strive by that perfect rule book

00:53:33.560 it's a guideline like are you doing your best in some ways yes absolutely how easy would it be to

00:53:41.160 take all those photos down that's not hard it's not hard but it's connected to my poetry oh poetry

00:53:47.800 it is one sec one sec i i do have a uh a question on this so uh if there was like a i don't know what

00:53:57.160 the specific terminology is but like let's say there was a uh a scholar of islam here like what are the

00:54:03.480 names of the priests yeah and if he was here and he was very clear with you he was like yeah this is

00:54:10.600 in contravention of the faith um would you dispute him on that or would you be like no you're right

00:54:15.560 no absolutely not and then so the the cure to i guess you're acknowledged is it a sin is that how

00:54:23.080 you would categorize haram um wouldn't the cure simply be to remove the photos from your instagram

00:54:29.560 yeah so but you're well no no no actually you're just like kind of willfully content like wouldn't

00:54:36.040 the proper procedure be oh i've now made a determination and an acknowledgement that this

00:54:42.040 is a sin or haram i but what is stopping you from just i mean the actual physical labor of getting your

00:54:50.760 phone going on your instagram do it and then just deleting it it seems to me like the threshold to

00:54:59.000 actually just ceasing the sinning is pretty low i think we're having a conversation about looking

00:55:06.520 muslim and then behaving no that's a behavior a photograph of yourself is a behavior yeah but

00:55:11.960 if i take those down you're saying i'll look more muslim but i still will have the same that's

00:55:17.320 fine like you'll have a proclivity no you'll have a proclivity right toward certain things you'll

00:55:22.520 because you're calling it poetry honestly i think that's a cop-out um but even if i gave you that

00:55:28.040 right i just gave you okay it's poetry there's a way to do poetry and and and speak your thoughts

00:55:35.080 and feelings into existence that's there's so many ways that aren't that in fact the more creative ways

00:55:40.360 move away from that way because that's the easy way guess what someone could do the same photos who

00:55:44.920 looks just like you right like a doppelganger they do the same exact thing right imagine that existed

00:55:51.240 how would you know the difference between the muslim and the non-muslim if if there was exactly

00:55:56.200 your instagram but it was someone else doing the same exact photos you're not supposed to because

00:56:00.040 you're not a law and you don't know what i do off of instagram i'm saying that if if that's poetry

00:56:07.160 is there not other ways that you can say poetry through actions that aren't that such that you're

00:56:13.080 more consistent with islam sure so why wouldn't you do that if it's possible you're not that weak

00:56:19.800 right you're what i'm you're too weak to to suppress your poetry like is that what it is i think that i

00:56:25.880 have a way that i want to express myself to the world and i'm doing that and this conversation about

00:56:32.680 contradicting myself i'm a bit confused because i'm saying that there are perfect guidelines in islam and

00:56:40.520 my instagram is not islamic like i'm agreeing with that so there's no contradiction we'll come right

00:56:48.840 back to it but i'm gonna let this come through two hundred dollars chair two do you get consent with

00:56:54.040 the trees is that great or at least non-consensual relationship islam lady repent and believe the

00:57:02.040 gospel w jesus christ okay call me king thank you for the uh the two hundred dollar tts really

00:57:10.440 appreciate it you want to respond yeah i get consent you like the trees speak to you yeah yeah yeah no

00:57:17.480 for sure i've had like trees grow towards me and stuff like that but i'm not out here like

00:57:25.000 effing trees you know what i mean i'm just going up yeah but what about basic firewood i mean you

00:57:30.280 don't have to eff a tree to to take its goods what do we what does that mean i mean if you needed

00:57:35.720 firewood from one of your good friends if you know what i mean um could you just break off a branch

00:57:41.320 no i'm good it's like giving well sometimes actually not a branch but we're not gonna linger on it for

00:57:46.760 too long but it so if there was a a mufti is that what they're called a mufti yeah yeah what is

00:57:54.760 shah i don't know sitting right here and he commanded you i don't know is that what is that

00:58:00.680 what he would do he'd command he's like listen you got to take that down would you do it no wait

00:58:06.120 hold on a rep not just like two white guys here but like an actual he's a christian i don't know

00:58:13.400 anything really about islam okay a representative uh someone from is do they have ecclesiastical is

00:58:22.040 that a thing and i don't know i was born and raised as muslim by the way oh okay so you might know a bit

00:58:26.920 about this but you had you had a mufti sitting here sitting where i'm sitting hold on we got to split

00:58:31.880 this wait okay hold on it's going crazy guys okay and he said this is wrong this is in contravention

00:58:40.920 of islam you got to take it down you wouldn't do it no you have to be who then at what level of

00:58:50.280 somebody in the clergy or whatever it's called in islam would have to tell you what you're doing

00:58:56.040 is wrong you have a cure and when i say cure you have a fix to the sin or the haram

00:59:03.800 what yeah do they have excommunication or they just use a sword you have to be ready to change in

00:59:10.040 order for it not to happen again and someone forcing you to do something is not going to

00:59:14.920 shift a mindset like i could delete my instagram but the reason why my instagram looks like that

00:59:20.280 doesn't just fade away from deleting my pictures we got some other things we got to pull up we got

00:59:25.320 a couple videos here why don't we pull it up you can always archive oh scroll down scroll down scroll

00:59:30.360 down scroll down so that's your instagram mike keep going keep going uh my not too fast too fast go

00:59:36.280 back up go back up okay uh up oh thank you okay pause there uh click on that one with the flower

00:59:44.120 yeah is that are you wearing a hijab no is that a hijab no that's not a hijab oh okay would that be

00:59:50.360 just oh i thought it was a scarf no i that's not a hijab uh tab over to the video next control tab over

00:59:57.240 okay so play this so this is you oh that's a performance i just did in in the in the islamic

01:00:04.840 faith is uh female on female whatever this is is it is it hello no it's not what then how you do

01:00:16.760 why are you doing it wait hold on and then singing too isn't it no i was doing my poetry i don't mind the

01:00:22.280 singing but next okay play um this is you twerking hello can you can you show this on youtube i'm sure

01:00:31.560 it's fine okay next uh this is you being served champagne in a rather i guess that's a wrapper

01:00:41.160 or something yes okay next and then this is your outfit booty out cheeks out um

01:00:55.480 wait not myself that looks fun as fuck i'm not thank you how muslim yeah are you

01:01:05.080 they're not how muslim are you are they showed everything like i don't believe in religion okay

01:01:12.920 but you grew up i grew up you're from iran yes and wait okay yeah okay what would they do to her

01:01:21.000 in iran you totally missed the ramadan story get the rocks yeah yeah that's why i mean there's a lot

01:01:31.000 of question in my mind because i was born and raised as muslim and then i read quran and i read

01:01:38.040 torah i read bible i read all that and i looked at myself and i was like yeah that's a no for me

01:01:44.760 all of it you steam to be fair though you seem correct me if i'm wrong you still hold kind of a

01:01:51.560 conservative like reserved persona i just don't want to label myself as such any of them i'm like you have

01:02:00.840 one life you come to this world go discover figure this world out on your own and have an idea about

01:02:09.000 what life is you don't have to submit to any other book that is available you can read them read them

01:02:17.960 have an idea take what would resonate but just drop what doesn't and don't label yourself as any

01:02:24.760 which is you're a few human being and you can just live i just what i was asking because you seem

01:02:30.280 to come from one extreme and you're not at the other extreme you're kind of in the middle as far as

01:02:35.560 like reservation humility being more humble reserved do you uh think that the sort of modern

01:02:43.400 conception of liberation especially from women tied directly it just seems to be the case that the most

01:02:49.080 direct form of quote liberation happens to be sexual uh do you think that's a a misstep for women

01:02:54.920 it totally to me it totally is because um that's why i asked her what do you how do you define

01:03:01.720 empowerment because uh unfortunately what we see as i i call it um being rebellious towards all whatever is

01:03:12.120 being set as rules that's being rebellious but that has nothing to do with being empowered this is

01:03:19.000 my idea you might not be um you know agreeing with this but for me it's like um the way i look at

01:03:28.760 every human being i i i believe that we're magic and i i believe we we are we start as a thought and

01:03:35.480 idea you were an idea your parents decided to have a child so you start as an idea and through a woman's

01:03:44.840 body which is a portal of manifesting human beings who we manifest and become physical beings from an

01:03:51.240 idea to what i've become this to me is magic it's magical so that magic is bigger than any kind of

01:04:01.080 religion any kind of book any kind of law that you could just read and put yourself under and believe

01:04:06.840 that is so would you agree that a woman creating a life you call it magical um do you think that's

01:04:15.640 far more empowering than just showing your cleavage yeah it's to me it's like it's um when when i when

01:04:23.480 i go back to magic i'm like this precious magic of human body is very worthy of being treated like a

01:04:33.880 magic that is it is and you're saying if gandalf you've seen lord of the rings right yeah well if

01:04:40.280 gandalf uses magic the whole entire movie it wouldn't mean anything right so imagine swapping

01:04:47.000 yeah i know imagine swapping swapping gandalf's magic for he had boobs instead and he just showed

01:04:52.440 him the entire movie i mean

01:04:55.080 to me it's like every all women has but they have boobs like it's not the different shapes and

01:05:05.000 there's nothing uh special special and extraordinary to

01:05:11.560 for showing it to say that's an empowerment for me i do have to let the chat come in we have

01:05:16.920 actually religious thank you man appreciate it sorry for the delay on this i thought the alien

01:05:22.040 tree lover would be the most insane on the show then the muslim not muslim slash christian opened

01:05:27.640 her mouth word salad nom nom nom nom nom yo thank you for the uh tts message i do really appreciate it

01:05:35.320 um who is the wait hold on it's funny because i don't believe in religion but i have my own idea

01:05:42.360 would you say you're in the respect in a woman being a woman and respecting myself i i believe as a

01:05:47.720 woman you have to respect yourself first then demand respect from men you can't just be whatever

01:05:54.440 society wants you and programming you as an um empowered you can you know submit to that and then

01:06:03.880 call yourself empowered just because this is what society accepts or believes that that's an

01:06:10.600 empowerment that's that's not it it was probably a bunch of dudes who sold women on empowerment meaning

01:06:15.000 be promiscuity and showing your body yes they're all just behind a curtain in terms of religion

01:06:20.360 would you say you're in the process of discovery or are you just completely closed off to it

01:06:25.400 you all your life you're in process of discovery it never ends the process of discovery never

01:06:30.920 ends so you never fully commit to one to uh religion yeah when i wasn't aware of what it was

01:06:38.280 of course i was i you you go through all the as you said the process of uh awareness to me is it was

01:06:47.400 some some kind of awareness of what is it so who wrote this why should i with this limited life that

01:06:55.720 time that i have on earth should believe somebody else's belief about what this earth and life is

01:07:01.800 why because i tend to question everything i question myself i question everything all the

01:07:07.960 time and you i believe everybody has to okay um i'm gonna move things on um so even if the i don't i

01:07:16.840 can't even i'm not the sheikh the mufti the ayatollah the ayatollah i don't know whoever comes down and is

01:07:24.680 like i'm gonna take down those titty pics you're gonna you're gonna do it i'm not ready to do it

01:07:31.960 so why would i why would i put myself in a position to force myself to do something i'm not ready to

01:07:39.160 do just to go back and probably do it again because i wasn't ready in the first place to force you to

01:07:42.600 not sin in that you've acknowledged that you're actively doing if you force someone to do anything

01:07:50.040 make any type of change they're not going to stick to it because they weren't ready in the first

01:07:52.760 place it's like the hijab all muslim women are not wearing the hijab because they're not ready

01:07:59.000 you can always archive them you can you can't always archive them it's not that they're not

01:08:04.040 ready some can't some they don't have a choice it's just there's so definitely not ready yeah but

01:08:11.240 there's so many reasons some you don't think and you don't think you should live in any particular

01:08:16.120 society that forces people to do things uh so long as they're not ready wait what did you say

01:08:20.920 are you okay with a society that allows people to do what they want uh without using force against

01:08:27.960 them so long as they're not ready to change absolutely not as i also stated earlier that

01:08:33.400 some sins are worse than others and i don't think people should just be allowed to do whatever it is

01:08:37.640 they want to do to whomever okay i think but my pictures are not hurting anyone pictures no hold on

01:08:44.200 you're you running around i i would call that public indecency you know i would say that regardless

01:08:50.520 if you weren't ready or not to stop showing your butt cheeks to the public i would i would say well

01:08:56.280 no i would i would actually forcefully remove you from the street unfortunately fortunately i think i

01:09:02.680 could wear more than half of that stuff in la to a nightclub yeah i'm not saying i'm saying that's not a

01:09:08.120 good that's not a great thing because um just because people do it right now and that's the

01:09:13.880 culture it doesn't mean like suddenly that that it's it's acceptable or it's a miss it's not a misstep

01:09:20.200 it could be a misstep from from women in general i think it is i think women believing that um using

01:09:27.160 what they have as leverage by the way women's leverage is not brute force it's it's their bodies uh it's that

01:09:34.440 they're the gatekeepers of sex and procreation that's their power you've been sold in a liberal

01:09:40.840 society that you're to invert your power and make it for free and call that power i'm telling you

01:09:47.240 you've been sold a lie well you've been sold two lies islam too so but that's a different debate

01:09:54.760 could you see how it could be a lie though the the kind of sort of like go to just just just go right

01:10:01.160 to sex just just show your body that's the way to be empowered i mean i could see where you're

01:10:07.160 coming from from a worldly perspective um but that's why i also mentioned intention like what

01:10:12.600 is my intention behind posting those pictures why do i feel like comfortable posting pictures because

01:10:17.720 not every girl's instagram looks like that not every woman is out there showing their cleavage you

01:10:23.480 know some people feel more comfortable covered up some people feel more comfortable showing it off

01:10:27.800 it is it just depends on the person but you guys showed everything but my ramadan story and i'm

01:10:32.920 very sad about that oh yeah we should put it in contrast to the app we should we should it's like

01:10:40.120 bad faith you know that's a different spelling for fasting it's all of me okay um cool well uh yeah

01:10:51.400 indeed uh wait hold on if you do you have you ever spoken to god absolutely it was just ramadan

01:11:03.480 no no sorry go ahead wait what do you mean have i ever spoken to god like prayed i pray yeah do you

01:11:09.400 speak to here uh hold on sorry guys we're doing some camera stuff um

01:11:15.720 do i speak to a law do i pray do i do the law yeah absolutely so if all uh god spoke to you and was

01:11:26.840 like you need to take those instagram posts down would you take them down yes ah okay all right but

01:11:35.560 like one of the top representatives of the faith no but if it was direct from god then yes well this

01:11:42.120 doesn't make sense because you believe in in what's written in the quran and the hadiths right

01:11:47.320 i do isn't isn't that dictated and and extrapolated through man i think that those rules are meant for

01:11:53.080 everyone under the faith if a law spoke directly to me i would think like by that time that happens it

01:11:58.600 would probably be my same sentiment okay but you don't you don't consider that the books and the

01:12:04.360 traditions of islam throughout time is god speaking through men it absolutely is but he's speaking to

01:12:10.600 everyone if i had a direct conversation from him like it would be like specialist the specialist

01:12:15.800 command the the specialist command of your behavior even though what if he said i already wrote this for

01:12:21.480 you then that would also be a special like yeah but don't you already hold the belief he already wrote

01:12:27.960 this for you a law has not come down and said to my face i wrote this for you this part you need to

01:12:34.360 take your instagram pictures out that hasn't been a conversation that because you know that's impossible

01:12:39.080 no it's not impossible i don't think people have told stories people have told stories about

01:12:44.520 how they've experienced their faith and jesus alayhi islam has said this to them in their dreams like

01:12:49.800 there's been so many different stories i don't yeah but has it ever happened to you that you feel like

01:12:55.160 sorry hold on hold on guys hold on hold on to the fake muslim what are the five billas of islam also do you

01:13:03.000 pay your zakat to pay zakat you have to be um financially able to do so to give i think it's

01:13:12.920 10 right 10 of your finances and then the five pillars of islam the five pillars of islam um it's

01:13:20.520 definitely ramadan salah um zakat is one of them i'm missing two do you remember sorry no i'm missing

01:13:32.360 two eric thank you hey eric thank you for the uh the message i do appreciate it we have uh inquisitor

01:13:41.000 zeal chairs one to four have said i believe about a hundred times question for you all where and when

01:13:47.960 did you get the idea that what you believe is more important than civilizational religious

01:13:51.880 or traditional standards i never said anything about religion because i don't i don't have any

01:13:59.800 connection to any of that stuff so that shouldn't have been about me but what was that question

01:14:06.040 belief about beliefs i uh basically like why did you why do you believe that what you believe is more

01:14:12.440 important than societal traditions and customs um what do i i never said i do believe that i said

01:14:21.400 this is this is the life that i chose this is what this is what i believe what life is about

01:14:26.200 and this is my point of view and i'm speaking from my perspective from what allah wrote for me for you

01:14:32.200 yeah so i my what i have going on is not more important than anyone else's experience okay we have a

01:14:38.840 message here from oh ala donated two hundred dollars take the pictures down and speak to your

01:14:44.920 accountability i'm speaking about it so i'm i'm taking my accountability oh i got the joke now because

01:14:53.080 it's i got it yeah thanks the okay is that a no all right that's it all right uh here we're gonna get

01:15:00.840 on to the uh next thing then uh let's see here we're gonna go to sammy uh sammy you said that you

01:15:08.040 disagree i believe this is with that christian guy who talks about uh i assume you're talking about

01:15:15.720 andrew wilson i don't know his name but okay it's probably andrew we have we have another representative

01:15:21.880 you're orthodox christian right uh so he can also um you can also i guess direct your

01:15:29.800 inquiry to him yeah and i can andrew i could answer as andrew if you want the only thing that

01:15:35.560 because i only saw like clips of him and the only thing that kind of threw me through a loop was i'm

01:15:40.040 pretty sure he said that he was a a reborn virgin even though he slept with a bunch of women but he

01:15:47.080 was a virgin now because he got baptized so it didn't matter but it didn't apply the same way to

01:15:51.720 women so i was like that didn't make sense so i don't know i was just a little confused on that

01:15:57.480 world view i thought that was odd you know you can be baptized all of a sudden you're a virgin

01:16:01.320 if so i mean doesn't that mean if i was christian my of wouldn't matter because then i could just

01:16:05.640 pray and all of a sudden i'm fine is uh well if you repented i mean that's one thing like the the

01:16:11.800 point of christianity uh this aspect anyway is that you confront everything you've done and you

01:16:19.160 acknowledge that it's inconsistent with the faith that you're entering and through entering the faith

01:16:24.440 there's a baptism and through baptism you're basically renewing yourself in a sense but it

01:16:29.880 doesn't mean all those things didn't don't count your sins don't actually just go away they're still

01:16:34.760 there um so that's invalid then that he's well i well i would just say you miss misrepresented my

01:16:41.080 argument so i mean i think he just i think you just kind of heard him say something but um i don't

01:16:47.960 think you're you're uh properly phrasing what he means by that he also been could have been uh being

01:16:53.880 hyperbolic which which he is a lot that's possible so you're prime are there other

01:17:00.280 disagreements or is that you're only just no i just i had seen a clip about it and i just thought

01:17:04.520 it was odd other than that i don't i don't even know if he said any of that but it doesn't sound

01:17:09.240 like andrew but so he said that when he was young he no he said that he like obviously had slept with

01:17:16.760 women and that recently or whatever he had been baptized whatever repented whatever you guys call it

01:17:22.600 and then that he was saved and didn't matter no more and he was a reborn virgin no no he would

01:17:26.920 never i mean if he was making no no no that way if he was making fun of someone who took that view

01:17:32.360 but i i gotta assure you he doesn't take the view of like you know that's uh that you suddenly

01:17:38.520 don't have the past of sin so i mean other than that that was just something i thought was pretty funny

01:17:42.920 so hey you didn't take any anything else uh that he said like i don't know because we talked on this

01:17:50.040 on this show there's a lot of women empowerment talk liberation rights and all this stuff there's a

01:17:56.920 lot more to pick and choose from yeah i mean the religion stuff since that's kind of the topic they

01:18:01.560 were on i definitely didn't really tend to tune in too much that's not kind of my thing i don't really

01:18:06.440 worry about that stuff so okay uh let's see going to alien you said the guy that you're seeing

01:18:15.560 threatened to get his dog to attack you because he thought you were leaving the situationship

01:18:20.680 when you told him that you guys need to talk yeah so over christmas or something i was having like

01:18:28.600 there was a bunch of stuff going on i'm not gonna lie to you i'm not gonna double into that as well

01:18:33.480 but um i had hit him up with like a message saying like hey we like need to talk because i i was scared

01:18:41.800 about something and so um i kind of ghosted him for like like right after that because like everything

01:18:50.360 got too much and i was like i don't really have time to like talk to you about whatever i need to

01:18:58.440 talk about um he lives like right next door to me and so i was like oh wait whatever and literally

01:19:05.480 like the day that i was about to like come and talk to him about whatever he was like don't

01:19:10.200 fucking talk to me anymore you're a threat to my family i'm gonna get my dog on you and i was like

01:19:15.560 what the fuck can i just get my stuff back and he's like took my stuff and burned it so it was weird it was

01:19:23.000 a weird situation but i didn't do anything wrong is that when you started to move toward trees or was

01:19:30.920 that before she's been dealing with the trees for a minute yeah uh why trees um i just think um

01:19:40.280 anything is better than people fair yeah but aren't you anthropomorphizing the tree as a person

01:19:48.440 no not really i mean how how else you could you possibly conceive of a being that you're interacting

01:19:55.400 other than referencing a person no you mean like if you think you're talking to a being isn't the

01:20:02.440 only reference you have for being a human like a the way if you can talk to someone and communicate

01:20:08.280 to someone directly isn't it the case that everything you learned about communication

01:20:13.160 is from other people no i don't really think so is there anything else you can you're capable of

01:20:20.280 talking to that's not a tree like a any object or i mean i talk to plants i talk to animals but

01:20:30.280 is cannot from your view can non-living things be beings like objects well well not non-living

01:20:39.640 things okay right i don't go around talking to my books like oh my god i i love you like you need

01:20:45.800 to stay here did it uh but like i talk to like things that are alive you know what i mean wait but

01:20:51.320 the pages are made from trees so they're not alive oh oh okay it's a dead it's a dead it's dead yeah

01:20:57.960 okay so you don't talk you don't believe in talking to dead people i mean get my ouija void if you

01:21:04.040 want but interesting uh let's see we have a chat here from ben two chair one i didn't catch your

01:21:13.800 name it's becky right right jim bob i think her name is definitely becky this is like a yeah there's

01:21:19.640 a lot of expected inside jokes okay my audience yo ben thank you so much for the uh soup chat man

01:21:24.440 really appreciate it welcome to the stream uh your name is not in fact is it my name is sam

01:21:30.840 sam her name is sam ladies and gentlemen uh we have a tts coming in here for i believe

01:21:38.440 she's uh rejoining us so that tts is coming in right now thank you jordan jordan floor is donated

01:21:46.360 two hundred dollars that little boy is a comedian but not stand up also to the poet alipri determined

01:21:54.520 you to be a 304 and a muslim impersonator don't worry about all of this logic stuff

01:22:05.320 what do you want to respond here scoot your chair into the table scoot it in

01:22:11.880 i don't know what to say except for nothing okay did i miss the are you you're a comedian you're

01:22:23.800 a comedian is that underground comedian you're an underground comedian indeed do you do stand up no

01:22:32.040 what's an underground comedian i have i have fans let's put it that way let's put it that way

01:22:38.680 what does that mean wow that was sorry good job that was great love it okay um all right uh here

01:22:47.640 i'm gonna get into some of the do i do the fuck it let's just do the questionnaire actually you know

01:22:52.920 what here m1 grand ask everyone to rate their own looks own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't

01:23:01.640 pick seven i'm gonna start with you go ahead a 15 okay so she says 10 i'm gonna go i'll come back

01:23:09.800 to you what about you i'm not doing that you have to i'm not you have to i'm not doing it why not

01:23:14.760 because i just think that's degrading how would it be degrading because

01:23:20.360 wait it's degrading hold on hold on what if people on your comments said you're a 10 would you eliminate

01:23:27.880 that those comments because they're degrading but i'm not rating myself wait you you let other

01:23:31.640 people degrade yourself to grade you though i can't stop people from degrading you can delete

01:23:35.640 their comments 304 what am i supposed to do no if someone on your account says you're a 10 right

01:23:41.560 that would be degrading right it wouldn't be coming from me but if they want to do that i can't stop

01:23:46.680 people from from saying what they want to say

01:23:50.840 whatever

01:23:51.240 i just don't understand the connection there it seems to be the case if you rate yourself

01:23:59.960 it's degrading because you're putting a sort of value on an object right

01:24:06.280 but you present your body as an object object yeah but you present your body as an object i mean you

01:24:14.200 think of my body as an object no you know the audience you know who you're playing to don't play

01:24:18.440 naive when those guys look at your pictures and your ass and all that right they are looking at

01:24:23.240 you not as a being not as a muslim not as your personality they're looking at your flesh and blood

01:24:28.200 right and they're saying that object do i want that or not right i disagree with you based on my dms

01:24:34.920 based on your dms yes because we're talking about the people who follow me right wow you should use

01:24:39.240 that you should use that uh with a judge one day you're basically putting your own thoughts on the

01:24:45.720 the people who follow me but you don't know the people who follow me and i don't know all the

01:24:48.280 people who follow me but when i receive comments no it's not just them objectifying my body parts

01:24:53.880 what what do they say in your dms they say oh i've just i want to learn about islam more based on

01:24:58.920 your pictures i've actually had really islamic conversations that's actually good news that's

01:25:04.760 good news for christianity then and also i would like to pose a question as to why the same strict

01:25:13.960 expectations of a muslim are not put on christians because there was some people here i think you

01:25:19.400 said they were christian and they have their own i think it's i think it's stronger because in

01:25:26.040 christianity we have free will and in islam you don't so you actually can get out of your you have

01:25:31.480 a loophole in your system being that allah already wrote all of your behaviors including those behaviors

01:25:37.000 so from a christian view we have secondary cause which means we have the will right and even god's

01:25:43.960 foreknowledge of all things doesn't uh take away our will to act so when we're confronted with

01:25:49.960 something we do wrong that's inconsistent with our faith we actually uh have it harder now if you're

01:25:55.480 referring to general western progressive like protestantism i think you that's a good critique

01:26:02.440 i would agree with you but not orthodox christianity but the same idea of who who's a christian

01:26:09.080 the same idea of you asking for forgiveness and hoping god forgives you is the same thing in islam

01:26:18.520 i'm asking for forgiveness hoping but god made you do it yeah but well first of all god made you do it

01:26:24.360 ultimately wrote it but two you can say you're not ready a christian can't use that cope inside of

01:26:30.280 church you couldn't confess your sins acknowledge that they're sinful or wicked even worse like

01:26:37.000 wicked the knowledge of sin and still doing it and say i just wasn't ready you know that's that's a

01:26:44.040 cop-out that's like you imagine we use that for anything else in life we just simply say well i know

01:26:49.640 what i'm doing is wrong i as the arbiter of truth and power say i'm not ready no well how would you know

01:26:57.080 you're not ready if you don't actually try to do it you you wouldn't even know you're not ready

01:27:01.560 you can't say i'm not trying because you don't know if i'm trying or not delete one picture right

01:27:06.840 now no see you're not trying the reasons i have the pictures up are not going to be eliminated by me

01:27:20.200 deleting the pictures yeah but that's so i'm gonna delete a picture just to post another one again

01:27:25.800 because i wasn't ready to do it in the first place okay then you're admitting that you have

01:27:30.280 a proclivity toward a certain behavior that you know is wrong that's what i've been saying i said

01:27:35.080 that i am islam i am not i'm not islam okay i'm not a law speaking okay even if i granted you that

01:27:43.560 the proclivity the internal workings that has you want to do x yeah and doing x are two different things

01:27:49.480 that's actually in in favor of my position which is to say you could actually delete all that stuff and

01:27:55.480 deal with internally the battle of your proclivity and what you're drawn to doing you don't actually

01:28:01.560 have to do it you can still look inside and go oh i really want to do this thing other people do this

01:28:07.080 there are worse things that are actually illegal that we can't even talk about on the on the panel

01:28:11.480 yeah they actually have to deal with the internal workings of their own proclivities because they're

01:28:16.280 harming other people i'm not harming it well that that's up in the air harm i think you going at

01:28:21.480 showing showing yourself half naked or nearly naked in public is i think that's a type of harm

01:28:26.600 you could put in your captions over what you could put haikus in your captions for at the very least

01:28:32.200 why don't you make it more pro why don't you do the bold thing um and this is amazing that i'm

01:28:37.480 advocating for this because uh poetry is cringe to me why don't you do the bold thing and try to do

01:28:43.720 poetry the traditional way and try to to gain uh value from that as opposed to calling nudity

01:28:51.400 poetry i didn't call nudity well you did i said it was a part of my poetry a part you guys didn't

01:28:56.600 even play my poetry oh the other part the poems oh the oh the all the the titty pics come with poems

01:29:03.800 yeah oh they do i didn't i didn't see the audio it's on spotify not music if you guys want to

01:29:08.440 listen to it and see here let's uh let's get back to it so okay um the question was ask everyone to

01:29:14.040 rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten uh you said 15 so ten uh what about you um i'd say

01:29:20.680 an eight there's a couple things i critique but i think i'm pretty cool so okay eight i see myself

01:29:26.600 down at a time who cares ten out of ten eight eight considering my uh gender ambiguity i'd say at

01:29:33.080 at least okay that was a good one wait sorry repeat that at least what i'm at least a solid six

01:29:38.840 i feel like that's safe solid six okay because of the ambiguity either way you know okay my pictures

01:29:43.720 later should be interesting when we do the the gender swap have you considered would you date yourself

01:29:48.120 have you considered poetry just look the same maybe slam poetry i feel like that would be pretty exciting

01:29:55.880 uh okay felicity what about you five five five five i get myself a five

01:30:03.080 i feel like damn bro you guys all the girls are throwing off my five though what the

01:30:06.600 i know you devalued our five no you you devalued your five yeah i should be lower

01:30:12.840 i diluted it over here a little dilution sorry six i'll take a six take a six all right take a six

01:30:18.440 all right six six i can't be claiming five if i got well well no you can take a lower though

01:30:23.720 you can get lower yeah yeah i don't know i can't i'm keeping my five i'm happy with five

01:30:28.680 um okay wait so hold on let's explore this a little bit we have a 10 and a 10 and while she

01:30:33.320 escaped for the time being i think we're all times we're magic beings wow okay

01:30:40.360 literally everyone are are all men all men are tens uh oh no they're not but they're

01:30:49.240 here are are all women tens it's not about men and women but you hold on i'm a little confused because

01:30:57.240 you said we're all tens as a human being we're all that's what i'm talking about physically yeah

01:31:02.680 i'm talking about looks though ask everyone to rate their own looks i think it's very uh it's very

01:31:08.920 personal it totally depends on your taste and what you're looking and what you see the taste of beauty

01:31:14.680 in different people is different well so then you would acknowledge that not everybody's a 10 then

01:31:19.400 look wise yeah looks wise yeah okay

01:31:21.880 yeah because so are you a 10 but you're still a 10 like you're yourself so you you are you a lesbian

01:31:30.360 or no okay i don't know that didn't really make sense um so you're a 10 okay i see myself as a 10 uh

01:31:41.160 10 being that i'm trying but i'm talking about looks so just just to be clear and this could be your

01:31:46.200 answer uh on the scale of one to ten when it comes to looks you consider looks to be 10 out of 10

01:31:51.880 it's seven if i want to be super honest i would be well yeah that ideally honesty is pretty good um

01:32:02.200 okay so not 10 now seven seven you get a little pushback not a 10 anymore it's not a pushback it's

01:32:08.440 it's about this table sees uh beauty and taste is whatever the media or the society

01:32:16.360 pursues as beauty i'm gonna go with that um and i'm gonna go yeah i'm seven okay all right alien what's

01:32:26.120 up

01:32:29.960 what 10 10 i guess so if you want to cap me at that but i think i'm higher than that you go beyond the scale

01:32:39.240 yeah why is 15 that seems very limiting it's beyond the scale the last time i okay because

01:32:46.520 the last time i came i called myself a 12 and the way that everyone was trying to beat me down

01:32:52.200 it makes me feel like you're trying too hard so i must be bigger than that so i'm not 15 but

01:32:57.800 genuinely i think that's higher than that for sure i genuinely like the way i look so

01:33:03.400 well i'm happy for you that's i miss why you call yourself alien though what do you think you're

01:33:11.240 an alien okay because there are people who think they're actual aliens i just wanted it's like have

01:33:15.880 you ever heard like people call themselves bug yeah like i think that's such a cute name i don't know

01:33:21.080 why it's simple but it's cute bug self yeah that's me basically all right i'm gonna do a couple quick

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01:34:08.840 own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven bringing it back to you uh you don't want to

01:34:15.320 answer the question or yeah i'm not answering it i already said i think it's degrading why why would it

01:34:21.160 be degrading because i don't want to yeah sure i'll explore that subjectify myself to a number okay sure um

01:34:27.800 would you date a guy who's uh shorter than you i have i understand you have is it your preference

01:34:37.400 i mean i'm a sapiosexual so if you stimulate me mentally then it really doesn't matter your height

01:34:46.360 okay so let's assume you have two men of the equivalent iq and they stimulate you uh equally

01:34:52.920 one of them is six foot one the other is five foot one i mean they're otherwise exactly the same

01:35:02.040 exactly the same like facially and everything facially penally is the word penal um i don't

01:35:09.320 know i'm using it do you take the six foot one guy or the five foot one guy that's not a fair

01:35:18.840 question thank you like what is happening right now how would that not be a fair question no it's

01:35:24.280 not because explain how it's not fair cannot be the same there's two different spirits okay okay

01:35:29.320 sure sure if you let me ask you a question uh how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this

01:35:34.600 morning what what yeah how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning hungry okay cool

01:35:41.720 so it's a hypothetical question i'm asking her to engage in a hypothetical so yes i agree there's not

01:35:47.240 what it is you're going to engage in a hypothetical yeah that's cool but um yeah it's a hypothetical so

01:35:51.960 i'm just trying to uh i guess probe the world view probe the yeah okay um i mean what are the chances

01:35:58.600 though two men yeah i know it's a hypothetical it's not literal yes i agree i agree with you that like

01:36:04.760 everybody's a unique snowflake but like in this hypothetical scenario granting that these two men

01:36:09.800 are i don't know they're identical twins and but what somehow one of them got their their height stunted

01:36:17.560 but they're otherwise exactly the same everything's the same what brian is saying is that the preference

01:36:21.480 itself is this sort of objectification that that we can't avoid that there's going to be some features

01:36:27.000 about people that we're attracted to and we're going to be biased toward them and in a sense even

01:36:31.320 before knowing them we're going to make a judgment about them as an object in space really if you're if

01:36:37.960 you're and there's nothing wrong with it it's just you know if you continue to treat them like they're

01:36:42.440 just an object i would say yes your your contention of objectifying people is wrong but putting a rating

01:36:49.640 on on your preference you know aesthetically i that's like uh imagine you did that with art like

01:36:55.880 if you could rate art like one to ten like would it be like degrading to the work itself to to so i

01:37:03.160 think that's like a ten that's like i think what's interesting about my answers is at least i'm consistent

01:37:09.320 on the fact that i don't judge a book by its cover i don't like doing that i don't like looking at

01:37:14.280 something and being like this is what it is because this is what i don't believe you though i just don't

01:37:18.360 believe you that's fine if you don't believe it but this is my reality this is my life like i'm

01:37:22.520 speaking about my life you told me to be raw be sure absolutely this is what i go through but i guess i

01:37:27.240 just when you when people say oh i don't judge a book by its cover i just don't believe people when they

01:37:32.840 say that i don't i've i've dated a fat guy i've dated the guy who's shorter than me i've i've

01:37:40.760 and society would not think those things are attractive i don't think it's really a like a

01:37:44.840 rebuttal to the question of okay do you have a preference for tall men and you say well i have

01:37:49.080 dated a short man uh i don't really think that that's evidence that you have a preference i don't

01:37:54.440 or a lack of a preference towards tall men i don't have a preference at all like when people ask me

01:37:59.080 like what's your type it's all it's have you do you have no you have no preferences no when people

01:38:04.920 ask me what's my type it's more about personality when i get down to personality and intellectual

01:38:09.800 you don't have like for example racial preference no i don't okay your husband what is he white black

01:38:16.280 egyptian egyptian okay uh your current boyfriend he is mixed mixed black and white or yeah okay tiffany's

01:38:26.040 dying jumping on this one i feel like uh okay so you don't have any preferences no i've dated a white

01:38:37.000 guy i've been interested in asian men so you date a dwarf if he stimulated me mentally i might yeah if

01:38:44.680 he stimulates you mentally yeah if he interesting enough to talk to now but okay again let's say you

01:38:51.560 have two options one guy stimulates you his stimulation mentally is a 10 out of 10 but he's a

01:39:02.920 dwarf and then you have a guy you know what we'll change it he stimulates you nine out of 10 but he's

01:39:10.520 six foot one okay do you pick the dwarf the the four foot ten four foot nine or the six foot one guy

01:39:18.840 but they both stimulate me a nine out of ten no no the dwarf actually stimulates you more by one

01:39:24.840 point he's a ten out of ten okay but the six foot one guy he's a nine out of ten in terms of

01:39:30.600 mental stimulation i'm gonna be more drawn to the dwarf dwarf yes because we're having better

01:39:36.280 conversations like we're having better conversations i could bond with the door if like he's on the five

01:39:40.760 gum shit what how it feels to two five gums stimulate your senses those are our first joke

01:39:49.800 i'm trying i'm nervous no i'm glad you're trying give the comedian i'm glad you're trying

01:40:00.040 would you be willing uh what do you rate donald trump on the scale of one to ten what he's funny i'll

01:40:05.800 give him that did you vote for trump are you mega i did not vote for trump you vote are you kamala

01:40:11.000 voter i didn't vote at all kanye you vote for tiffany voted for he didn't run oh you wrote him

01:40:18.120 i would have but you wrote him in though right no on the the write-in portion i'm sorry all right

01:40:25.560 she's she's a die-hard trump supporter yeah not really not really oh the tariffs are getting

01:40:32.600 are getting you um okay i also don't i i just want to point out that you said you don't have

01:40:38.440 preferences it's actually the the case that you prefer people who stimulate you you know

01:40:44.600 you prefer so you do have a preference you're just saying you don't have a physical preference

01:40:50.360 um and so you would go with the tyrian lannister if he was who's that he's like the dwarf in lord of

01:40:57.000 the rings like you would go with him if he was a 10 out of 10 intellectual conversation versus like

01:41:05.240 a protector for instance who only can stimulate you intellectually nine out of ten you'd go with

01:41:12.520 tyrian lannister i don't even know who that is it's the dwarf from lord of the rings but if

01:41:17.320 but if in a situation where i'm having conversations with someone and yeah so protect so protection and and

01:41:23.320 the future like the future the pragmatic future of this relationship working you don't put your

01:41:29.560 current preferences uh as something you're going to judge the future with like for instance don't you

01:41:35.160 want a man who's uh who um can protect you if needed yeah but you don't prefer that over tyrian

01:41:44.280 lannister who's telling you like having good talks with you sounds like it almost sounds like

01:41:50.440 wait the thing you've the preference is actually mostly what women refer to as like the friend zone

01:41:55.640 guy who's like you can be friends with and they intellectually stimulate you but they don't have

01:42:00.440 the other aspect that you really need for a for a sustainable relationship provider protector all of

01:42:09.400 those things matter too well they can't matter as much if you can't look at i can't look at someone

01:42:14.680 and be like you can provide for me or you can you can look at someone say you could probably protect

01:42:19.480 me or not though you can do that yeah yeah so tyrian can't you judge a book by its cover you did

01:42:25.720 nicely done how was it from my game of thrones yeah actually you said um yeah but but you said

01:42:34.040 lord of rings oh sorry look i did i did yeah yeah no yeah sorry i'm gonna get it for that yeah

01:42:40.920 because like at first glance hold on hold on how delusional women are stop falling for the bait you are

01:42:47.720 making us look stupid you dig yourself in a hole and make women look stubborn and unreasonable

01:42:54.440 wait what huh purpose of the question is to show men how delusional oh the purpose of the i guess the

01:43:00.680 the rating your looks on the scale of one to ten christine thank you so much for the message

01:43:07.560 w female viewers i think is christine is that a that's a female name was that that was a critique

01:43:13.480 of the questioner right no i think it's a critique of the failure to respond to the question okay yeah

01:43:19.080 why did we actually take the question and why did we answer that she's saying you shouldn't have

01:43:25.240 you should fallen for the bait for this bait of rating yourself for the sake of argument or

01:43:31.000 just as a question no i think she her i think she's criticizing the refusal to respond okay okay

01:43:37.960 right christine i'm not sure i believe she has to send another clarification you gotta send another

01:43:43.000 one but what were you saying oh when we're talking about whether or not you can just tell if it if

01:43:48.520 somebody can protect you or not yeah and that's judging a book by its cover like right away i mean

01:43:54.840 you brought up looking at someone tyrian lannister being able to

01:44:01.000 say whether this person could beat someone up for me yeah well no but yeah i was talking about judging a

01:44:06.040 book by its cover in the sense of me liking someone i'm not gonna look at someone and be like

01:44:10.440 oh you're six one i'm gonna like you because in general well that's why i brought it in because

01:44:15.640 when we're talking about seeking partners there's a lot more than looks right but looks are included

01:44:20.520 it's not like it's not important you know if if you're attracted that would be looks right off the

01:44:25.960 bat but then you dig deeper i'm just saying that one of the things you would have to expand your

01:44:30.520 preferences to be realistic because if you valued being protected you would have to then

01:44:36.200 make a preference on how someone looked when i'm picking a partner i don't it's not top

01:44:42.280 five well i'll pick your partners can you protect me can you protect me oh what okay what um on the

01:44:50.440 scale of value of a partner how high is protecting you

01:44:57.400 a five a five that's objectifying men how because you're looking at a man saying oh sorry sorry can

01:45:05.320 you what can you look at a man and on the scale of whether or not they can protect you or not

01:45:10.200 give an accurate um it's not on the list on a scale it's not on the top of the top five i know but no

01:45:16.040 but could you look at a a man and give give them a one out of ten rating on how well they could protect

01:45:21.800 you from your view there's a lot of men who are tall and buff who can't beat up anyone and there's a

01:45:26.520 a lot of men who are short and not and can beat the fuck out of someone so yeah too sure yeah yeah

01:45:33.320 i don't i don't know i think it's more about the energy of the person and how you know i'm scared of

01:45:42.520 dwarfs so i'm actually yeah yeah so my argument is actually toast because uh i'm more likely to run

01:45:49.080 from a dwarf they're shifting are you actually like serious yeah i'm a little bit intimidated by

01:45:53.560 if a dwarf was running at you yeah yeah seriously that might be an interesting situation then they

01:45:59.640 get in the trench coat you know what i'm saying so let me see more effort where are we um

01:46:12.920 trying to get a rating from her yeah yeah can you just give a rating doing it i'm not doing it

01:46:18.600 okay okay rate me how well you think i could protect you i'm not gonna do it come on

01:46:28.040 it's just obvious

01:46:31.640 okay is right don't make it my time is it that rating a being it's it's that it's a being that

01:46:38.360 makes it wrong yeah i'm like i'm not gonna rate a human person what about

01:46:42.840 rating their creations i hate that but because an artist as a poet i wouldn't want to insult

01:46:50.120 so are you really a poet i am it's on all the research you did so she's a comedian performing

01:46:57.160 and you thought i was singing i wasn't are you a poet like she's a comedian underground no i'm not

01:47:01.240 underground it's on apple you can literally google you can google me it says musical artist okay you

01:47:08.120 crazy crazy crazy people there uh not you guys um okay you don't want to rate yourself

01:47:17.000 will you rate jim bob no will you rate me no objectify me okay what if we give you consent to

01:47:23.640 objectify us no or degrade degrade us what the fuck i'm not even interested are you are you okay with

01:47:30.280 that if sure if we can get a rating system out of her okay well we're gonna do this uh

01:47:41.160 seven though right yeah i thought you were ten yeah wait can you tell me a guy who you think is a ten

01:47:47.320 and looks what honestly i don't know i don't really i don't really look at guys like that you know what

01:47:55.400 i mean like i'm straight let's go rate a tree yeah rate a tree redwood yeah redwood where do you

01:48:02.120 put redwoods yeah cedar trees you fuck with cedar trees i'm not reading are you more like eucalyptus

01:48:09.400 what the fuck are you more invested than living trees if you see a tree that's kind of dying will

01:48:14.360 you just kind of be like it's not worth my time i think anything that's dying is cool wait what the

01:48:19.800 fuck what can i oh but i i thought the difference between paper and the tree was because trees are

01:48:26.120 alive and paper is dead i mean but i just have like interest right so i just like i have like wet

01:48:33.800 specimens and stuff like that so i just like tree um morbid stuff have you seen um the tree of life

01:48:41.960 episode from dragon ball z or wait is that what it's called no wait i don't watch anime tree can we

01:48:47.080 specify something and i'm sorry if we already specified tree of might excuse me hold on tree

01:48:52.520 the tree of might did you see that i don't watch anime sounds like it's worth it what was the the

01:48:58.920 bad guy from tree of my turtles was that his name turtle who was the bad guy because you said that's from

01:49:06.600 like dragon anyway sorry go ahead sorry i'm can we i'm autism can we it was turtles turtles is the bad

01:49:14.520 guy from tree of my dragon ball z can we specify it i'm sorry if you already did but is there a

01:49:21.000 sexual attraction to trees or do you just bond with them no i have a sexual attraction to men but it's

01:49:26.920 just i don't really like that many guys in general

01:49:38.520 what do you think about like the like if you look into the monitor here you see all the the palm trees

01:49:49.720 and shit like yeah i think they're gorgeous would you smash a palm tree no i wouldn't smash a tree

01:49:56.200 that's bad for like your ph ph balance or whatever you know what i mean so that's crazy

01:50:01.320 yeah but like i guess if you're asking me about a man if i have to just throw someone out there adam

01:50:06.840 driver i like roger waters like i don't know i like old ass men i have to i have to ask you um

01:50:14.120 the way you present yourself yeah does that attract the kind of men that you oh i don't

01:50:19.480 really care no i'm asking if it does not if you care does it i don't care i get whoever i want at

01:50:25.640 this point so i i don't really think about it i have a question too so if there's male and female

01:50:31.400 trees can they like reproduce is there a purpose what do you mean to the different genders because

01:50:36.680 trees have different genders right yeah but i know like for the most part the ones that you're

01:50:40.520 seeing outside are males is there a way to tell no i just know it for a fact so you support the male

01:50:47.880 tree patriarchy what no what do you mean should we allow male tree patriarchy i mean no i think that

01:50:59.000 chopping definitely should have like female trees like around about but the thing is is that there's

01:51:05.480 there's not a lot of female trees around because if it's giving out whatever it's it's basically

01:51:11.480 about the fruiting bodies and the government really should we intervene though and make equality for

01:51:16.440 trees i'm sorry should we intervene as humans and equalize so half male half female trees

01:51:25.880 half is that what you want how do we know i never said that i'm pretty sure that that's possible

01:51:31.400 i'm almost 100 sure that that's possible because trees can like lend um like their own power to

01:51:39.240 other trees especially if they're dying and stuff and they can kind of morph so it's kind of cool

01:51:44.600 excuse me what the fuck all right i just really like plants yo super sane thank you for the gifted

01:51:50.360 subs maybe it was because of the tree of might reference thank you man appreciate the gifted sub uh

01:51:54.440 you know uh oh going around the table do you guys think do you think you will be better looking in

01:52:02.040 10 years time better looking no i don't think that's how aging works okay do you think you'll be

01:52:09.560 better looking in 10 years time yeah because i take really good care of my skin my body and everything

01:52:14.280 so and i've just been advancing so it's whatever wait sorry but i'm just not to be blunt but how is

01:52:21.720 all of the holes in your face taking care of your skin i mean do they look rejected it well no it

01:52:27.720 looks like an act against the skin on your face though that i'm still taking care of my skin my skin

01:52:32.840 is clear i don't know not in those spots i would say no it's still clear no i would say everywhere

01:52:40.440 where you have skin you have good you have clear skin but where the things are what do you call those

01:52:45.000 things by the way they're piercings piercings though that that part of your skin is not that's not

01:52:51.080 good for your skin that part right i mean tell me how it's not good for my skin well i mean anything

01:52:59.560 that tears away at the fabric of your skin we would say isn't good for your skin right it doesn't matter

01:53:04.920 like you're good if you go to up if you go to a hospital right now they're going to put a needle

01:53:09.320 on you right so it doesn't really matter i don't let them do that but i mean but they're going to

01:53:13.720 regardless if you get in a car crash or whatever they're still going to put ivy in you well yeah if you

01:53:18.520 need to live but that's yeah those are those are still needles you're still disrupting you

01:53:23.720 wouldn't want them if you could have yeah but if you could avoid the tearing of your skin every

01:53:29.320 medical um advancement pushes away from i mean it's gonna happen like it could happen to you

01:53:36.360 regardless like whether your skin is like whether you're going out here living your life tomorrow you

01:53:41.400 can be in a car crash and that's so you know like your whole fucking shit is like that's true so it

01:53:44.920 doesn't really matter to put all of this like wait it doesn't matter how you present your face

01:53:51.000 like how you treat your skin like 100 like that like i take care of my skin obviously right i don't

01:53:57.960 have like bad acne it is um i don't have like pockets like i don't know how to like express it

01:54:05.160 but i take care of myself still so not you and it's evident so hey can can you stop there's a pen

01:54:12.040 my apologies do you still have your pen oh i thought it was a pen i thought you were you were

01:54:16.520 i wasn't paying attention all right uh 20 years time uh better looking at 46 you're 26 30 years time

01:54:23.160 56 yeah i take care of myself uh 40 years time 66 yeah okay uh you're 29 better looking in 10 years

01:54:32.360 time at 39 into the mic i don't know what yeah i'm asking you what you think though i don't know yeah

01:54:39.320 i understand you might not know but what do you think i don't know that's my thoughts

01:54:47.160 okay i understand but what if you had to guess i don't know that's cool let's say there was a

01:54:52.440 bullet to your head there's a gun to your head and they're like you get to serve you have to answer

01:54:58.680 the question but if you don't we're pulling the trigger but that's the answer to the question i i

01:55:02.920 don't know rather like end your life than just answer the question even if it's a guess why

01:55:10.040 why do i get all the hypotheticals like what is happening right now because you just because you

01:55:15.000 just don't answer the question i don't know i don't know it's an answer too yeah it literally isn't

01:55:20.520 though but i really don't know why is it not well okay here let me fine i'll ask some clarifying 10

01:55:25.800 years ago i looked worse than i do now so i i don't know okay cool well given the trend of you

01:55:33.240 looking better now versus 10 years ago is that trend going to continue who wants to say it

01:55:42.040 let me ask you a question um do you are in terms of physical appearance do you find people who are

01:55:48.040 like 100 years old are they typically uh better looking than i don't know if you've seen like old

01:55:54.760 like photos of somebody when they're 100 versus when they were like 20 or 30 or something are they

01:55:58.920 typically better when they're 20 or 30 or when they're 100 um of course they have change in

01:56:04.920 appearance yeah what are those changes i mean to society they'd say negatively negatively changed

01:56:11.560 they've aged but you said 10 years there are people who look amazing at 35 40 like but but i'm not

01:56:18.920 asking you if you'll still be good looking in 10 years that's not the question i'm not asking you

01:56:23.720 if you'll still be attractive i'm simply asking you're currently 29 at 39 in 10 years time will

01:56:29.880 you be more attractive just as attractive or less attractive there are people currently now

01:56:35.400 who look better at 39 than they did at 29 and there are people who look worse though you're saying

01:56:40.280 better no but i'm asking you about you gravity i don't know okay like if if uh let's say uh

01:56:52.440 you had a hundred thousand dollars uh and here are the two betting options one is x person going

01:56:59.960 to look better at the age of 30 or 100 and you're a betting person like you might say well it's possible

01:57:06.840 for somebody to be better looking at 100 than they are at 30 i mean maybe that might not even be

01:57:11.880 your position uh if you had to put your money on better looking at 30 versus better looking at 100

01:57:16.920 which one do you pick if we're gonna have a debate let's make sure the ages stay the same so when you

01:57:22.360 first asked me you said 10 years time if you said 100 i would have said oh i'm most likely going to

01:57:28.360 look worse than i do now at 100 years i'm just trying to make a see if you can come to a delineation when

01:57:35.000 it comes to like yes people don't tend to look worse as they age generally speaking generally speaking

01:57:41.240 yes but you didn't ask me generally here let me ask you let me ask you in a different way that maybe

01:57:45.400 she'll answer it if if it's possible if it's possible for you to look worse than you do now

01:57:52.200 or better and you have command over it what what will you choose to um to do if you could act on it

01:58:00.760 i would want i would like to look better than i do okay so if you would like to look better than you do

01:58:07.640 and you you could you thought well i'm going to commit to doing it do you think you will look

01:58:12.120 better if you thought you're going to commit to that do you think right now you will look better

01:58:17.000 given that you just said you want to if you've acted on that want are you saying that you will look

01:58:22.360 better in 10 years i don't know all right here um how about this uh let's do 20 years time so you're

01:58:32.280 29 better looking at 49 than now at 29 49 almost 50 yeah i think there does become a stopping age

01:58:40.440 where it's just like regardless of what you do so i don't know okay here's another way of asking it

01:58:47.240 how long do you think you'll keep posting the types of pictures that you do on the internet

01:58:53.080 will will you do you think you'll be posting those pictures in 10 years there's something for

01:58:57.560 everyone so i don't know so i don't know yeah okay so how about 30 years time better looking at 59

01:59:08.280 than now at 29 like i said there is a stopping point where regardless of what you do naturally

01:59:14.680 gravity will take its course so yeah do you want to just answer the question i don't know like that's

01:59:22.360 my answer wait just to be clear you genuinely don't know most likely hold on generally you don't

01:59:29.240 hold on you don't know if in 30 years time at 59 one year away from 60 you don't know if you're

01:59:38.200 gonna be worse looking better looking or the same as you do now listen i won't look the same that's for

01:59:45.720 sure yeah what are the differences that are gonna occur i don't know no but like okay what have you

01:59:51.640 noticed when you look at somebody who's older like i said i look better than i did 10 years ago

01:59:57.320 do you have a famous do you have a famous actor that you like no allie berry

02:00:04.200 johnny depp beautiful brad pitt berries but i'm aware of allie berry she's from ohio too

02:00:09.240 that's great um so have you ever you and you're 29 right so maybe you've been watching like movies and

02:00:15.320 tv shows for like over two decades probably uh you've probably seen some of your favorite actors age

02:00:21.720 typically are these actors like 20 30 years down the line are they better looking ashanti looks

02:00:29.000 fucking amazing i just want to say that and i'm pretty sure she's pushing 45. i thought you said

02:00:34.680 alia i was like that she's dead um do you think mcdonnell looks good she's had surgery so we don't know

02:00:41.000 how she would have naturally looked because she lady she does i feel like she does look better than

02:00:47.080 before she does yeah she looks like what she did but man she she looks like 30 years young madonna

02:00:55.320 she just said mcdonnell looks good right now i mean see how you could just not know what's gonna take

02:00:59.880 place you just don't know all right i feel like you definitely i feel like you do kind of know because

02:01:04.360 it's like with old people you talk about them like they're a jalopy like there's nothing you can do

02:01:09.480 yeah i'm saying i think at an age a certain age there is like a stopping point but he's saying

02:01:14.040 10 years from now he's that's the question 10 years from now it was moving around yeah so

02:01:20.520 100 years absolutely i don't think all right and then final final thing for you you're 29 if we go back 10

02:01:28.200 years uh better looking at 19 versus now at 29 i looked worse so you're better looking now yeah

02:01:36.520 what what were some of the changes that occurred because you know how you look now you know how you

02:01:41.640 looked at 19 so perhaps we can get some definitives on that um i didn't take good care of my body i was

02:01:49.320 extremely skinny my hair was a lot shorter my skin i had a whole bunch of acne you gained weight yeah

02:01:55.320 and in my cultural beliefs that's a good thing so just want to put that out there how skinny were

02:02:03.160 you i was 116 and how tall are you i'm five five your weight what one you said 160 or 116 and she's

02:02:13.320 five five you're 116 now no no i was 116 before yeah tiffany don't you have something on like i saw

02:02:20.920 that you post something recently about yeah what is it i would consider that a glow down just

02:02:26.200 personally a what a glow down because you gained weight glow down yeah i just learned the word

02:02:35.320 wait but no tiffany didn't you say what did you say about like you wanting to be thinner can you

02:02:39.240 explain that um yeah my goal is to lose weight you don't want to have an ass or boobs so you want

02:02:45.320 to glow down you don't want to go that's a glow up for me would be for her to lose weight how's it

02:02:51.640 i'm just saying from my perspective i consider that a glow down and for mine if you you know got

02:02:56.600 to your goal it'd be glow down okay wait from you're saying from your perspective if she got skinnier

02:03:03.560 she would it would be a glow down yeah okay you want to see her thick thick tiffany is what you're

02:03:09.560 saying i think she just wants to see you want you know i also i'd also add she is yeah right

02:03:15.640 yeah like i don't think she really needs i mean like she said she would like to then so what but

02:03:20.440 i think she's fine as she is you know so she lost more weight you're saying she would be

02:03:25.960 less attractive i think it would negate from how she is now yes and i'd also add that i'm not entitled

02:03:31.320 to my own beauty standards like why are you trying to say you were just doing that to her

02:03:35.320 well you did kind of just shame me well i was just sharing my opinion and i was sharing mine

02:03:39.480 you were just doing that because you were offended by what i said i wasn't offended it wasn't you

02:03:44.600 didn't say it to me no you said that you said you consider that as a glow down yeah and then you

02:03:49.400 got offended by what i said about her and then i was saying the same thing you said to her so this

02:03:54.840 is why women shouldn't vote wait tiffany are you gonna stop yeah like what

02:03:58.600 obviously got offended that's no look let me just say this some women do look better skinnier and

02:04:05.160 some women do look better thicker i happen to look better thicker if you if you like to know the

02:04:09.720 standard for men is essentially um this is why age does matter is that when we ask uh you know when

02:04:15.400 we're asking about looks from a male perspective deep down inside we're actually looking at like

02:04:19.960 fertility like uh can you provide us children so i do agree that health is is considered for sure in

02:04:27.640 that um but looks are too and so is age so it's all sort of like bundled together yeah and um i

02:04:34.040 don't know if you can give like an exact thing of like that's the pinnacle of a beauty and health

02:04:39.640 there's probably some standard but when you when you ask men what we're really looking for is your

02:04:44.440 your ability to give us children and the the reason this question is asked so much is because

02:04:50.600 a lot of the cultural aspects we talk about with women's behavior um pornography liberation all

02:04:57.080 these things when women sort of like dedicate their lives to like 10 15 years of liberation

02:05:03.560 they actually waste the the time where you're actually at the 10 for the men does that make sense

02:05:09.960 that's when we're actually looking to find you and settle down with you and have kids but you kind

02:05:15.720 of miss that window and a lot of women are missing that window um for really bad reasons to your

02:05:21.640 boomer standards boomer yeah to my boomer standards tiffany i think you need to respond

02:05:26.840 to sammy here to her there's a little do you think what do you want to say anything to sammy

02:05:34.760 she was saying that you're too thin i mean all i was saying is that she seems to get really

02:05:41.880 she said you were too thin no she didn't i didn't say i mean that was that you said fine if she put

02:05:49.320 on a bit of weight it would be a glow down i was matching the energy or wait no it would be a glow

02:05:54.440 up wait hold on yeah no she said if she loses weight that's a glow down that's a glow up for her

02:06:01.320 that's what she said there's no they're saying there's no such thing as a glow up and are you

02:06:05.240 calling tiffany fat what did you call her fat no she called herself so she called herself fat because

02:06:11.720 she wants to lose the weight yeah i didn't say nothing about that i said no no i think i'm

02:06:16.520 pretty skinny but i just want to be skinnier she wants to be skinnier yeah why are you hating if

02:06:20.440 you want what's wrong what's wrong if tiffany wants to be a little skinnier huh she can't like

02:06:25.800 i said you just said that i called myself fat but i never did i literally don't care bro i was just

02:06:31.560 doing the same thing that you did you don't let her call her bro you don't let her call you is she

02:06:36.280 your bro bro wait i have a question how would you know the threshold of when it's a glow down for

02:06:43.080 how would she with her that was that's a good question yeah but i just want to know how would

02:06:47.080 you how do you know in a standpoint because that was how i felt okay that's fine because i

02:06:51.080 you were mirroring her okay how would you know it's a glow up or glow down for her

02:06:55.640 um based on her bmi i guess

02:07:00.440 if you okay if you go below 16.5 i would consider that a glow down okay but i think 116 for 5.5 is

02:07:15.080 like about average or maybe slightly below average like weight wise like underweight yeah that's

02:07:22.520 like slightly underweight for 5.5 i think like ideally yeah what would be like 20 skinny tiffany

02:07:28.840 what would be a glow up for sammy huh what would be a glow up for sammy are you even okay with that

02:07:35.240 question i think she is careless i think i'm just fine how i am in terms of weight like what do you

02:07:40.520 think is a glow up for sammy like in terms of how like much weight she should lose or yeah what do you

02:07:49.320 well i don't know her weight so i don't know i mean just like eyeballing it i guess what's her bmi

02:07:54.840 are you like studying nutrition yeah right i'm into that kind of stuff but oh yeah okay you can tell

02:08:00.520 me then because i'm 410 and weigh 93. i mean honestly that's a bit heavy to be honest oh my god

02:08:06.840 you're just dead ass no he's not he's not you should probably join weight watchers actually my underweight

02:08:14.200 limit is if i hit under 75 that's bad okay i can get on board i can get on board with that yeah so

02:08:20.760 i'm fine honestly i'm in the middle wait i just feel like you should fourth you're 410 yeah so

02:08:27.240 not offensive but isn't that legally it's legally a dwarf but i don't i was gonna

02:08:31.880 thank you for saying that i'm just that short that's so cute when i saw her i was like that's brian's

02:08:37.160 type oh what he always talks about loving dwarves um as far as glow ups you guys were just talking

02:08:46.600 about health and weight but um how do you how do you ladies distinguish between glow up and glow down

02:08:52.760 when it comes to like altering your face and your body generally i feel like it just depends on how

02:08:58.600 that person feels about their selves to be honest so you you know that like cat lady who mangled her

02:09:03.560 face and she just looks like some sort of crazy cat is that a glow up i know who you're talking

02:09:08.040 is that a glow up i mean yeah i mean she's happy with the way that she looks you know how do you

02:09:13.160 know because she said it herself that's a war on how do you even how do you even define

02:09:20.360 how do you even define a glow up is it how you feel inside i'm letting the chat come through real

02:09:24.360 quick i'm gonna let this come through because it's i apologize all off for the delay on this

02:09:28.920 do not approach immoralities what is apparent of them and what is concealed indeed allah does not

02:09:35.240 like immoral behavior sarah al-anam six to one hundred and fifty one

02:09:43.160 are we still like are we going back to the religious topic every time every time every time

02:09:48.600 i think that that's what just happened allah thank you for the

02:09:51.720 in inshallah you impersonating allah is also immoral so inshallah means like god willing

02:10:00.360 oh i mean inshallah how do you say but i said i didn't say inshallah how do you say thank you

02:10:05.400 and farcee yeah i guess like because islam has nothing to do with persians and persia and any of

02:10:12.840 that they're two different things okay all right okay you're 47 better looking in 10 years time at 57

02:10:20.680 well i mean i don't think so gravity does its thing and we're physical beings so okay so

02:10:28.120 won't be better looking okay you're 47 let's go back in time let's go back 10 years 37 versus

02:10:34.760 47 were you better looking at 37 uh yes okay uh let's do another 10 years uh 20 years

02:10:41.080 27 versus 47 better looking at 27 i think i look better now better now yeah because that that time i

02:10:53.320 was in a uh in my first marriage and i was unhappy and the energy was dull and unhappy inside and it

02:11:01.800 just yeah but shows through i guess but okay um that's why i consider myself about this 8 18 versus

02:11:09.000 47 better looking 18 okay yes all right tiffany you're 19 better looking in 10 years time at 29

02:11:16.040 yes 20 years time 39 yes 30 years time uh 49 no okay so you're when's your when's your peak

02:11:26.920 um depends on when i get my nose job and lose the weight you can get one of those white people

02:11:35.000 noses no something that would suit my face is there like a menu fine tiffany are there menus for noses

02:11:43.240 is that how it works like when you go in kind of there's like different types of noses

02:11:49.880 different types of nose jobs like there's ethnic nose jobs and there's like barbie doll nose jobs

02:11:54.600 do you have the are you going to get the eyelid surgery what would you change about your nose

02:12:02.760 i just

02:12:06.600 honestly i think like you don't need a nose job i think it looks good

02:12:10.520 yeah your nose is fine stop tripping bro if it's your face right i dare you to get a giant

02:12:15.880 big honker it's definitely not like a symmetrical eyes i would like it to be

02:12:18.440 it's not as symmetrical as i would like it to be there's no guarantee that it's going to be

02:12:23.880 i don't like how it's so like kind of low here and i kind of have a tiny bump you can't really tell

02:12:28.040 but i can feel it i'm looking at your nose in the it looks fine you know what it looks like it looks

02:12:32.840 like you already had a nose job it kind of does yeah i don't think you should get one you should just

02:12:38.600 tell people you got one see what happens just test it test it problem solve see if people go

02:12:46.600 they would think i went to a cheap doctor a what a cheaper doctor oh man i feel like the difference

02:12:52.680 between a glow up and glow down is the results and that's about it what would it go up like if you go to

02:12:59.240 i guess not look like a little boy oh yeah that was pretty that was pretty harsh that was hard i

02:13:04.520 mean you don't look like the typical you know you have to own up to that right yeah you know so i

02:13:10.520 mean if you're going to go out in public dress like millhouse you're going to get some pushback

02:13:15.960 whatever i'm just saying so you're 30 better looking you're 30 better looking in 10 years time at 40.

02:13:25.000 oh me i feel like people tend to fill out with age but i feel like right now it's probably my peak i

02:13:30.920 think this is it okay and then going back 10 years at uh 20 versus 30 better looking now or at 20.

02:13:39.720 i think now i feel like i look better now okay and then uh well felicity if we've done this whole

02:13:46.280 bunch all right so i have to wait until she's back to do this segment so i'll just wait a little moment

02:13:54.120 do a couple shout outs guys read 100 tts 200 uh like the video please and also venmo cash app

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02:14:13.800 you uh pull up the or i think it's already up right okay uh window tab and oh before you do we age

02:14:22.920 advanced all of y'all with ai so a lot of y'all said you're gonna be better looking so here it is go

02:14:34.040 that was great that went too fast i'll pull it back up yeah she still likes cars it's actually kind

02:14:39.800 of yeah no yeah is is that what your mom looks like actually my mom looks way better than my mom's

02:14:46.440 skin's a lot better than that i wonder what age are they looking let's say what age is the middle one

02:14:52.440 middle is like 63 no middle is like what 56 no middle is like 40s no no no no way that's 40s

02:15:04.280 really i think her hair is 40s but her her eyes that middle one is more like that could be 50 55 at

02:15:11.320 least 55 at least yeah 60 a little bit all right okay next

02:15:16.600 hot control tab

02:15:22.120 you gotta click on it there you go oh what is that uh no i didn't mean in a mean way

02:15:29.800 okay i feel like it's not like it's really you wait what the it just looks that's what i'm saying

02:15:34.120 it's so like it's like obfuscating you look like in freeman you know what it is it's including your

02:15:38.440 your piercings are aging that's what it's trying to do yeah yeah trying to age them it's just like

02:15:43.080 everything's like just make them rest dude what the fuck i'm saying that's a meme i think the a

02:15:48.920 i got confused all right i can't wait you follow and find it adamant and ice do you see that that's

02:15:55.800 hilarious you're gonna age well oh my gosh definitely still doing poetry at that point too i definitely

02:16:03.240 am yeah that's what's up i'm maya angelou wait so okay um so let's say that that other one that's

02:16:11.080 like 20 30 years in the future the middle one uh no you said you didn't know i don't know i still don't

02:16:22.280 know because my woman looks like here's where we test this out which of these three is the best

02:16:28.200 looking is the best looking yeah depends on who you're asking huh huh i'm asking you she's great

02:16:34.840 at not i mean don't hey look all i'm gonna say all i'm gonna say is don't be mad when we're here

02:16:41.000 super late because you guys can't answer a question easily um okay so which one's better looking the

02:16:47.480 left the middle wait did you say the middle subjective yeah your subjective opinion you think

02:16:53.400 the middle one is the best looking i don't know pick a winger you gotta pick one bruv bruv bruv

02:17:01.240 pick the fucking one am i in a better mental space in the middle or the last one what is i don't

02:17:06.120 understand what is wrong what is what is wrong with becoming old from a woman or man's perspective

02:17:11.720 and remembering the time when you were youthful and beautiful there's nothing wrong with that then

02:17:15.960 why is there something wrong with saying back when i was youthful and more beautiful and vibrant i

02:17:21.400 remember that time i i love that time that's no longer the time right is that what you say as a

02:17:26.280 boomer what no i'm saying that from wait from a millennial no but i'm no she's reading my spirit

02:17:33.880 it's a boomer spirit so but that's what i'm that's the point is that there's nothing controversial about

02:17:39.320 about a woman saying when they're older saying oh remember to be young again this is like not a

02:17:45.320 controversial statement but you're like fighting it for some reason i'm not fighting you're like no i could be

02:17:49.800 totally hot in 79 i said i don't know i'm going to be wearing 79 year old lady thong i said i don't

02:17:56.120 know and i will be wearing thongs i'm sure of it oh boy just pick a number just end all the suffering

02:18:05.560 to whom though don't forget there's also a mail and oh my god someone's getting into politics for sure

02:18:14.200 i would be a cute manny like that true okay all right let's do next

02:18:26.360 why are we looking at her like that i want ron to be like that

02:18:31.720 how do you feel about that so tiffany it makes me look like coralline

02:18:34.760 who is that oh my goodness

02:18:44.120 you said better looking in like 30 years right that's you in 30 years

02:18:47.160 that's not accurate tiffany that's you the middle one that's you in 30 years

02:18:51.080 supposed to be you should look at my mom is she my mom single oh never mind

02:18:57.000 do your parents know about your boyfriend yeah they love they love him so they do know they love

02:19:07.320 him more than i do all right uh all right next

02:19:14.760 did you just say ew yeah why not oh my god look at the last one that's not that's not good you look

02:19:22.040 like a librarian i look awful but like a librarian at an elementary school not like like a chain

02:19:29.080 smith like a reputable librarian i appreciate that oh not a reputable one i think i appreciate that

02:19:35.080 the middle one is you know not like i'm not gonna lie to you i appreciate it i've seen a couple like

02:19:40.200 20 year olds that look like that so like a high crime urban library okay all right uh next

02:19:48.360 that's awesome that's awesome no this is the worst one ever what is this why is the middle one this

02:19:57.080 is the worst one by far on all the other episodes like this one is the least forgiving it's learning

02:20:02.440 the the ai's learning what does that mean they really did not do you any the neck yeah totally

02:20:09.160 destroyed your neck too by the way what the felicity you have a fantastic neck but they the the ai just

02:20:15.800 came in and maybe that gave you an adam's apple that's crazy like a zigzag the middle one like

02:20:22.040 how how many years have you ever done a swoop felicity like my bangs like instead of like just

02:20:28.840 bangs straight down you like swoop them to the side is that no like all you know emo swoop here you're

02:20:36.600 help her out kind of like hers i'm too bad i think she's got it look she's got it wait let me see

02:20:41.720 kind of looks good yeah it's not bad all right you just need a little pink dye and you're good to

02:20:47.560 go or green or blue or some shit all right uh next

02:20:56.520 see see if you look at the last picture that's what's talking inside of me so wow

02:21:02.120 actually the middle the middle one that's what's talking

02:21:05.640 i like the middle actually the last one i'm gonna have a long white ponytail so it's not totally

02:21:10.040 accurate uh all right next what are they gonna do okay oh they used like

02:21:15.160 fucking 10 year old photo the middle one's great let's take a denture commercial damn damn bro the

02:21:22.280 fuck i look like a a racist mayor of some like yeah like a mayor yeah definitely like on that last

02:21:30.440 one i look like i'm a mayor of some small no you look like one of the guys from the x factor

02:21:36.200 look at the twinkle in your eye in the first one where where was that yeah i was looking i was the

02:21:41.720 sun was beaming into my eyeballs you look more like this the middle one now than you do the first

02:21:47.320 one thank you wow wow i appreciate that i appreciate that tiffany thank you pull up tiffany's again

02:21:55.880 really quick let's just actually you know that's not fair because they use wait i look like you'd be

02:22:02.360 at a golf course i look like i'd be on a golf course yeah i said that you look like the uh x factor

02:22:09.160 judge x it's like louie wash or something simon cowell no louie wash like i just said oh i know

02:22:16.600 you're talking about who the fuck is that guy louie he's the irish guy that was like the old q-tip on

02:22:22.840 there the white hair oh yeah okay he was the one that looks like that all right uh i don't know where

02:22:29.960 else oh we need to do the gender swap too but first we have a couple chats coming through we have

02:22:36.120 slim stream he just sent in a hundred he didn't even send a message slim stream thank you so much

02:22:42.680 for your hundred dollar contribution you're a fucking legend can we get some w's in the chat

02:22:48.040 for slim stream thank you so much man you're a legend slim stream slim the real slim shady

02:22:54.760 he deserves a freestyle do you know slim shady is now a grandpa his daughter has a kid now that

02:23:01.960 okay inquisitor zeal i sent a hundred last time because i knew i wouldn't can answer and love to

02:23:06.920 repeat the question when in your life did what you believe become more important than the rules

02:23:12.360 created by others what caused this

02:23:14.200 i believe that's directed to you guys go ahead take it take it away i still don't know what do you

02:23:27.000 mean with that question like rejecting traditions established norms that um you know over time

02:23:33.080 through generations have been established and um where does this impulse of just co just rebelling like

02:23:40.520 she said um this sort of this like innate rebellion to the established norms it seems to be the the

02:23:48.040 trajectory at least where we are i think we're on a podcast and all these questions are being directed

02:23:54.680 to us yes for us to state our perspective about whatever the question is and it's our perspective

02:24:02.280 about whatever the question is doesn't mean that it's more important or a better perspective than

02:24:08.200 societal well for instance when you were talking about your your instagram you were saying this is

02:24:14.280 empowerment and for me yeah if we swap it out the question is asking um where do you get the notion that

02:24:21.480 your individual sense of empowerment is um is more uh is basically more imperative more important than a

02:24:30.040 collective standards for what behaviors are and should be in society i never said it was

02:24:36.280 it just is i never said my person my perspective and what i'm showing on my instagram is more important

02:24:43.720 than well you do it you did in a way because if we transported you into a muslim nation and you said

02:24:49.640 you were muslim certainly if you maintain the position you have tonight you would be going against what

02:24:55.560 the question asked the established norms and traditions of the society and i would bet every person in that

02:25:01.640 muslim nation has a specific sin and they would also be going against islamic law in some way shape or

02:25:07.800 form well that would they correct it or not they wouldn't keep doing it though like that's the

02:25:12.760 difference we came up we came up with was that the difference is between people if they call themselves

02:25:17.880 religious whatever it be if there's some sort of corrective aspect of the religion there to to say

02:25:23.720 you're practicing it correctly is to say that you're self-correcting or you're going to correct

02:25:28.440 i never said i was practicing it correctly there are muslims who still call themselves muslims who

02:25:33.160 did not fast at all during ramadan there are muslims right after ramadan who went right back

02:25:37.400 to drinking but what they say it's empowering depends i don't know but that's the difference

02:25:42.680 we're talking about it's like those people if you ask them are were you being a good muslim

02:25:46.680 during ramadan they might say no but they wouldn't say well no but it was empowering i'm empowered

02:25:52.840 i feel empowered yeah because that's how i feel but as i stated yeah it's not right right well that's

02:25:59.960 the answer to the question if they if the question was why is it you where did you get this notion that

02:26:05.720 your preferences and urges and wants and needs are better than whatever the collective is that you're

02:26:11.160 you're in contrast to in this case islam the answer to the question uh to the person who sent in the

02:26:16.360 chat is i just basically want what i want i want to follow my what empowers me and that's it you're

02:26:23.160 following yourself right i think well yes to your last point but also i think what i'm disagreeing

02:26:28.760 with in terms of the question is the better part like i never said it was better right well yeah i

02:26:34.440 guess what he's saying better he might mean uh takes precedent over would you say that your idea of

02:26:42.280 empowerment at this moment your concept of empowerment is more important you're putting

02:26:46.840 it as a priority over let's say uh an islam perspective of what empowerment is you're valuing

02:26:52.840 your concept of it above islam's right valuing yeah see it's the word selection that's throwing me off

02:27:01.640 what are you what are you following which one are you putting up more on a pedestal yours or islam's

02:27:07.640 i'm going to end this discussion with this i'm a revert and so in being a revert there were things

02:27:12.440 i was already struggling with prior to becoming muslim and i'm working through those struggles and

02:27:18.360 those sins however it is i'm choosing to work through them and if posting pictures is a part of

02:27:24.120 that then it is it's a part of that and i'm not going to sit up here and not take accountability

02:27:29.000 and ownership over what it is that's on my page right so it's going to be by your standards that you're

02:27:34.360 even it's going to be what allah wrote what he wrote yeah yeah so well he already wrote that

02:27:39.400 you're taking those pictures so just like he wrote for you to ask me these questions right yeah exactly

02:27:43.720 if i was islamic i would i should just be quiet because the questions were already answered right

02:27:49.320 now i mean for someone else to answer their question in it's a good question because um this

02:27:54.120 applies to men as well is that if you are in a system that's ordered they're let's say they have

02:28:00.760 some standard for ethics decency public decency um how you ought to talk to people not talk to people

02:28:09.880 um if someone said well i just disagree with it all and i'm just going to reject it how do you how

02:28:15.800 would you guys determine uh whether that's like empowering or good like or are they being bold like

02:28:23.880 or is it more valuable to actually follow rules um in society intention intention what's the intention

02:28:31.560 behind it i mean how would that matter if the actions like if an action crosses a line in in

02:28:38.680 society like if someone's a nudist and you know they go to some some place that's public and there's

02:28:44.200 children they just like you know get a raging erection like if you said their intention mattered and not

02:28:50.280 the action if i said should we use force to limit you know take that guy off of the streets and you

02:28:56.200 said well it depends on our on our intention you know you wouldn't say that right i also stated that

02:29:02.120 some sins are worse than others i'm not talking about the scale of sin i'm saying if your measurement

02:29:07.240 is intention i just gave you an example where intention wouldn't matter right in that instance right

02:29:13.400 if you're harming others no intention doesn't matter well no he's not just like your ass is out

02:29:17.480 it just happens to be his penis no it's a part of the body no it's a part of the body but i'm not

02:29:22.440 i don't even know if i can't say this on stream but use a code if i am self gratifying myself online

02:29:29.640 you can't do that no no who said you're doing anything about it getting an erection is a natural

02:29:34.760 thing that happens you're not doing anything no no no yawning no it's not like it is it's like waking

02:29:41.400 up and yawning okay but a normal person would hide their erection immediately a normal person from my

02:29:46.680 view would hide their ass wouldn't would they yeah there's a lot of ass cheeks about to be out

02:29:51.640 it's about to be summer i know it's gonna be a lot of are we close to a campus i'm saying what i'm

02:29:57.560 saying is the intention the intention can't be the the determining factor because if someone just

02:30:03.800 happens to get an erection in public and they just happen to be a nudist right they're just like you

02:30:10.360 they just have less clothes just like me yeah don't you dare compare it's a type of it's a type

02:30:15.160 of nudist so what is what is your intention then what what is your intention when we're talking about

02:30:21.000 intention what is your intention by posting those pictures we already we already touched on that i

02:30:25.800 said it's i'm empowering myself as a woman based on what i went through prior to me getting married

02:30:33.080 me becoming muslim and all that stuff all that plays a role just because you revert into islam or

02:30:38.520 whatever religion doesn't eliminate as you stated the sins and things you did prior to okay so all

02:30:43.960 right so are you a mother yet no i'm not do what do you want to be a mother i'm not answering that

02:30:50.920 oh my gosh so so okay hold on hold on what what why would you not answer that because if i say no i

02:30:58.200 don't want to be a mother and a law wrote for me to have a child i'm going to feel bad that's

02:31:01.560 impossible it's not impossible it's logically impossible what you said that have children

02:31:06.760 that did not want to have children logically impossible what you said from your muslim view

02:31:11.080 if allah wrote that you're going to have kids he just simply wrote that you're you're saying you

02:31:15.240 don't want them right now that's it it doesn't change anything from your view but he didn't write

02:31:18.920 that he wrote for me to say i don't know yeah that's fine so so if he wrote that you will make

02:31:24.360 a great politician i feel like this is how christians started okay so so this is the problem

02:31:29.720 with what this is what i'm trying to attack here is that if you let's hypothetically say you had a

02:31:35.240 child and they were a female right at what age would you teach them that showing their body is empowering

02:31:42.920 what age i would teach them at all ages to be comfortable with who they are and how how they go

02:31:49.800 about doing that i'm not going to judge them okay as long as they're not harming anyone or

02:31:54.600 breaking okay if they came to you and said mom your pictures online i just found them on accident

02:32:00.280 some kid in the class actually brought them up in class that harms me are they are you going to listen

02:32:07.240 or are you going to say oh sweetheart you just don't understand i'm empowered i would say that

02:32:12.760 those pictures are how i chose to express myself that's what and he's and the kid the the daughter

02:32:20.760 or son says mommy just declare i have to say this just to clarify because you're taking the picture

02:32:25.240 too far i don't know i don't i don't do sex work i don't have any only fans and anybody who does i

02:32:31.000 have nothing against them but that's not something i do great i have sensual photos online that do go

02:32:35.240 along with my poetry i'm taking your standard right by the way and not other people's and

02:32:42.440 doing what you do i'm asking you a direct question if you call if you tell that to your own kid that

02:32:48.200 that's empowering right i didn't say i'd say that i i would tell them that that's how i chose to

02:32:53.160 express myself okay and then they say mommy how you're continuing to express yourself hurts me

02:32:59.720 are you going to respond to that or just say well no i'm empowered i take that into consideration okay

02:33:05.640 because you should care about that that's honestly when when you ask me if i want to be a mother

02:33:10.200 i'm thinking about that when i'm thinking about children i'm thinking about the fact that you have

02:33:13.720 to consider someone else's feelings and emotions and all of that fortunately but not what allah says

02:33:19.080 but not what allah says so your your opinion a law hasn't come down and talk to me about my

02:33:24.680 you're a kid's opinion in your own view you're you're you are declared a muslim right that's what you say

02:33:31.960 yeah you're saying that your own kid's opinion saying this is wrong i don't like this mommy is

02:33:37.080 actually uh it takes precedent over your own god's uh view of it no because i've never had a direct

02:33:43.080 conversation with the law so you about my instagram so you've never had a direct conversation that islam

02:33:47.720 is true either from allah how would you know that what do you mean when did allah tell you islam

02:33:53.560 you choose islam i don't want to talk about that yeah yeah exactly yeah you don't know my spiritual

02:33:59.880 experiences i never said i did but your standard is if uh allah has to talk to me directly to tell me

02:34:06.200 something's wrong then allah would necessarily have to talk to you directly to know that islam's

02:34:11.320 true otherwise why are you following it and maybe that happens certain down the road all right um

02:34:18.760 oh we're gonna do the uh gender swap so before we pull these up

02:34:25.320 i want you guys we're gonna ask you would you date the male version of you so

02:34:31.400 uh is it all ready to go okay uh all right oh my god that looks like my aged brother so no i would

02:34:42.280 not oh my god that looks like your asian brother i said age oh he's younger than me so i was saying

02:34:48.280 like older you have a brother though yeah and he looks like this yeah well he's 12 right now so he

02:34:53.560 doesn't have that's a yikes okay it just looks like him if he was but would you date the male

02:34:59.880 version of you no are we talking about look wise or like personality wise you know where's the

02:35:05.880 what what are you dating yourself it's pictures what it's fucking pictures okay uh all right next

02:35:14.680 wait what the fuck oh oh my god would you date the male version of this one's

02:35:19.720 fucked up yeah would you date dennis rodman

02:35:26.360 i guess yeah okay all right that's uh that's would you date someone with all the same exact

02:35:33.080 piercings as you i feel like that'd be pretty cool actually i mean i wouldn't care for the most part

02:35:37.400 if like i have like i don't have preferences basically right so i can date like the most basic

02:35:43.800 looking guy or i can find another guy that is like super body mods i found this one guy he's

02:35:50.840 he's so hot all right next yeah split tongue and everything i was like dude

02:35:58.760 would you date the male version of you does he stimulate me mentally bro this is like it's actually

02:36:04.040 retarded can you just answer a question please i'm serious i don't know wait you honestly don't

02:36:11.160 go around like being like a single person and then you go oh i'm attracted to that that person

02:36:16.600 over there caught my eye so everyone catches your eye equally that doesn't make sense i didn't even

02:36:21.400 say that just because it's nothing doesn't mean it's everything i'm just is that your poem is that

02:36:25.640 a poem she doesn't just a fucking haiku lame ass haiku man all right so would you date the male

02:36:34.200 version of you what is wrong with you i answered what is wrong with you i answered the question

02:36:39.000 already you said i don't know that's the answer no i said does he stimulate you mentally is he

02:36:43.960 attractive to you do you think he's attractive do you think he's physically attractive isn't being

02:36:47.800 attracted stimulated mentally wait wait how is how is another way of yes do you think how about this

02:36:55.000 do you think that the male version of you is physically attractive sure that's that's look when

02:36:59.960 you're attracted to someone physically isn't that a stimulation of your of your mind well do you

02:37:04.920 find the male version of yourself yes do you find that picture a male version of yourself attractive

02:37:10.840 that wasn't the question the question was would i date that person would you just talk to him fine

02:37:16.680 okay i'm changing the question then would you i'm changing the question do you find the male version

02:37:22.600 of you is like attractive i think someone on the world in the world would find that bro i don't care

02:37:28.200 with someone in the world are you i'm a sapiosexual how many times do i have to say that just throw

02:37:34.440 an answer out there no you're not gonna force me to just answer so you're not sexually attracted to

02:37:40.600 anyone then that's not true i'm a sapiosex i'm attracted to like on on right at face value you see

02:37:48.360 someone no that's the year there's zero attraction that triggers in your brain no zero you're not drawn

02:37:54.680 to anybody unless you start talking to them correct how do you how are you drawn to talking people

02:37:59.640 then people talk to me i'm not invisible so you don't read their energy at all so you just do me

02:38:06.520 a favor scoot your microphone this way no that you turned it scoot it that way scoot it to the very

02:38:13.960 edge of the table edge of the table mic clip all the way at the bottom please all right moving on i'm

02:38:19.720 not going to deal with that anymore um next yeah would you i i think he's attractive he is okay

02:38:31.720 all right and a programmer so he has a lot of money yeah definitely next nerd they're fine

02:38:39.880 would you date the male version of you tiffany why are you flashing yeah

02:38:43.000 because i'm okay i'll pull them back up don't worry but no absolutely not why

02:38:54.920 you wouldn't do you are you attracted to asian men um yeah

02:39:03.160 haven't you only dated white guys though i've only dated one guy oh okay all right cool story

02:39:09.240 didn't you meet him through the podcast no kind of come on what are you talking about didn't you

02:39:14.680 like meet him no through the podcast no we met through instagram he dm me yeah but how did he find

02:39:20.520 you tiktok he found you on tiktok oh okay actually that could be the case okay all right i shouldn't

02:39:26.360 take too much credit though i'm not going to take all the credit next oh no did you just say

02:39:33.240 ooh no just me with facial hair that dude was right that is true it is actually just they didn't

02:39:38.680 really not much has changed it's literally just me with facial hair it looks like who he looks like

02:39:44.040 brunette jeffrey dahmer yikes it just it doesn't look right it doesn't look okay it ain't right all

02:39:52.440 right uh next wow damn that's like way different mine's like the same and hers is just like a totally

02:39:59.720 different person i mean the eyes are all fucked up yeah it's a little strange uh wow you're kind

02:40:04.600 like better is that yes um yes i don't look like my dad in that one okay so this is a this is an

02:40:14.600 upgrade from some of the yeah i would i would all right okay next what the wait what the

02:40:21.880 fuck how did it even take my listen this is unfair why did it take my beard away i'm scared oh you

02:40:27.880 take your bearded women would you i i don't even know what that is you look like a comic book

02:40:33.400 no i would run from that i would run from that yeah you look like a comic book character like a

02:40:37.960 super i don't know i would extinguish that please no god she beat your ass oh okay all right

02:40:44.520 that's actually funny things which one looks very realistic as a woman yeah like a

02:40:50.840 i mean fucking cross a dorky likable like yeah i play pickleball easy going fun yeah i would i would

02:40:58.760 date uh middle yeah i'll take middle i'll take uh i'll take them both why not a little looks a little

02:41:06.200 like a trans woman but whatever i'll if it's a female i'm i'm down all right uh i think that's it

02:41:13.400 right i'm pretty sure yeah i'm pretty sure that's it uh okay guys if you want get the tts and kaibaka did i

02:41:18.600 pull this up i think i did kaibaka thank you for the gifted 10 subs man really appreciate it

02:41:22.520 all right we're gonna get into the uh questionnaire here actually yeah why not what would you want

02:41:27.880 the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband um i put 30 grand minimum i think that's

02:41:36.600 enough to live off of sure it's actually kind of a little bit more than what you would need i don't

02:41:41.560 know i was making less than that i was doing just fine yeah okay all right what about you yeah i

02:41:48.280 guess i can't agree without like 30 000 30 okay what about you it was a month a year a year a year

02:41:54.840 100k 100k all right what about you well i would go with i wrote it down there it's 250k

02:42:03.480 you said depends on when i get married and his age but you want me i think oh that's tiffany wait

02:42:11.000 oh my bad okay sorry i got my things mixed up you wrote what 150k to 250k all right uh

02:42:22.280 and wait what do you do for work again well i'm a business owner i have my own business okay so you

02:42:27.000 make around that much then okay tiffany 200k 200 and but hold on you said 200k to 500k yeah depends on

02:42:39.000 what if you don't get the nose job though what like if you don't get the nose job are you going

02:42:43.400 to stick to 200k like do you feel once after the nose job you're like 500k um no the nose job

02:42:51.640 wouldn't change anything oh okay but that's not changing anything with the money it has nothing to

02:43:00.840 do with it 500 half a mil half a mil i mean if i'm getting married at 30 i would want the guy to

02:43:08.200 make 500k you so like let's say you're marrying a guy who's 32 i mean he's going to be making 500k

02:43:17.000 yeah 30 i mean you can make 500 so that's like top one percent yeah do you think you're a top one

02:43:25.160 percent girl oh my god um yeah honestly wait why do you scoff at that do you think are you like

02:43:32.600 are you like yeah she's not a one percent girl is that what you're saying wait are you saying she's

02:43:36.200 not a one percent girl i scuffed at you for even asking that question why why would it hold on why

02:43:41.640 because i think it's degrading but how is it whoa wait wait hold on how is it degrading do you think

02:43:48.040 you're a top one percent girl yeah why would that be degrading because you're saying you're implying

02:43:55.160 okay so hold on do i need to affirm her as a 10 or excuse me a one percent girl you don't need to

02:44:02.280 affirm or deny or anything it's just the question that was even asked is like degrading so do but if

02:44:09.320 somebody thinks they're a one percent person whatever metric you might uh use for that sort of evaluation

02:44:15.960 must we affirm their self-identity no you don't have to affirm it's the fact you even ask the

02:44:23.320 question what but if i'm asking her it's actually i'm not even affirming or denying

02:44:29.160 her own self-assessment i'm simply asking if she herself thinks she's i mean i didn't find it degrading

02:44:34.280 so yeah okay so what's the answer yeah i am you're why is that what what makes you a top one percent

02:44:42.920 woman um i i mean i guess i come from a top one percent household in terms of income uh

02:44:55.000 like my dad makes around that much i'd want my husband to make more so your dad you said your

02:44:58.920 dad makes like half a million year well our household income yeah well okay so you and your

02:45:03.640 mom yeah the mom and dad combined what what do they do for work do they run a business no my dad's

02:45:09.320 an engineer and my mom's an accountant okay so just to be clear you want a singular person

02:45:18.120 to bring home the combined income of both your parents of two people

02:45:24.280 um because you said your household my dad my dad makes majority of it so okay sure

02:45:31.480 um so i get that you i'd also i'd also make that much or what are you studying poli

02:45:37.640 sign econ on pre-law so you're going to become an attorney yeah what kind of an attorney probably

02:45:43.560 corporate corp like you are the internal what's it called internal counselor for a corporation

02:45:53.480 like a part of a legal team at a company or would you work for a legal firm and you would

02:45:57.000 do corporate law yeah okay do you want children yeah okay would let's say you find the top earner

02:46:03.800 guy and he's baking let's go to the peak 500k um and he said well i've got five i'm doing the 500k

02:46:13.560 it's increasing i want you to be my wife uh will you abandon law school to have children will you

02:46:18.920 will you accept that oh cool nice yeah okay um but wait so i'm not sure though like you said that

02:46:29.160 you believe that you're in the top one percent because you come from your parents are in the top

02:46:35.480 one percent of earners but you realize i mean i'm saying i'm already part of the statistic genetic

02:46:41.560 i mean your parents uh your parents wealth doesn't necessarily uh have anything to do with like they

02:46:49.720 could just what if they just write though you have you have siblings yeah yeah what if they just write

02:46:54.040 you out of the will and you never see a penny of that or they're just like those hardcore parents

02:46:57.640 they're like i'm not gonna you're gonna have to make your own way in life the only angle i could

02:47:01.400 see that being a type of sort of attribute that the man would like to see is that she's if you are a

02:47:08.520 part of that class it's a class thing actually it would be that you know how to operate within a higher

02:47:14.600 you know socially you know almost like snobbery like you're already up there so you understand how

02:47:20.200 that yeah but show us your kanye tattoos yeah you want me to take off my shirt no like roll up your

02:47:25.400 sleeve that's come on it's gonna be hard so i mean okay that lowers the class a little bit so i have

02:47:34.280 three so at least the guy can you know 500k yeah he can burn those off you can but wait what do you

02:47:42.040 would okay would you let you if you said laser those off would you say yeah okay cool but so i think

02:47:49.080 even going ahead and granting like okay your mom and dad they make x amount of money that puts them

02:47:55.240 in the top one percent by extension that like elevates you a little bit most men don't really care

02:48:01.640 about your money like men don't care about your career success your career ambition the money that

02:48:09.320 you make men don't really care about that i don't want to become a lawyer that's just my plan b okay

02:48:15.400 sure that's what you're pursuing in the event that you're just forever alone i mean if my husband can

02:48:20.520 fund my business then i don't want to work wait what do you mean fund your business i want to make

02:48:25.720 a clothing brand for skinny people

02:48:30.360 wait hold on guys i could actually get on board with that she's gonna help because sizing is just

02:48:36.360 not inclusive for skinnier people wait it's not just the kids that's true that's true dude it's hard

02:48:41.400 to find like an extra small is like a medium these days and i hate that i mean i like i'd make the

02:48:47.880 sizes like you know how like yeezy does it like one two three no i don't know about yeezy i listened

02:48:54.520 to fucking leonard skinner you think i buy fucking yeezy

02:49:00.360 bye oh my god um is your shirt currently extra small it's it's brandy so it's one size

02:49:08.200 um wait so hold on okay but i was asking you if you think you're a one percent girl and you

02:49:16.280 cited to the fact that well my parents i'm pretty rare i think how so um

02:49:25.960 i guess my political beliefs your political beliefs yeah you realize trump won the popular vote

02:49:32.600 trump won the popular vote your political like there's plenty of conservative women i guess

02:49:38.040 brian you even vote for trump yeah no so you didn't even wait okay so you're oh oh okay sorry

02:49:45.560 brian i was gonna say brian's kind of asking like if you get a top earner um he gets it it would be

02:49:51.080 true that he would get a larger selection of women to choose from right so in in people let's say let's

02:49:56.920 ask if there's three other women who are in the exact same class as you as far as income kind of

02:50:03.960 adopted in for their parents um shares political views and all that is included um what are you

02:50:10.840 offering that man that you think the other uh contestants if you will uh so basically like what

02:50:18.360 do i what do you bring yeah what do you bring to the table the classic it is classic yeah just me

02:50:25.400 just you that's also a classic answer yeah what do you want me to say so it's like it's like this

02:50:31.160 the man brings x y z it guess what like when when you say 500k that's not identical to him right so

02:50:38.520 he doesn't say just me right because if the man uses your standard and says um what's your name

02:50:43.720 sorry tiffany says tiffany um you know i want to get married and you go oh cool how much do you make

02:50:49.240 because i have a standard and they say oh uh i make 50k and then you say well what else are you

02:50:54.920 bringing to the table what are you bringing to the table if it's not the you know the money and

02:50:59.080 the support my my jeans and then no the dude says it's just me like that's not going to work right

02:51:04.760 if the man says that yeah yeah definitely not yeah so that's why it's like we've heard that answer

02:51:09.400 before i i think the correct answer in this climate for men especially in your um sort of political and

02:51:17.880 and social status is what they want to hear is i'm going to mother a lot of your children that's

02:51:24.680 that's what they're that's what you bring to the table yeah and my dinner and my jeans like my

02:51:29.800 my jeans yeah children would get my actually jeans might be a good a good answer jeans depending on how

02:51:35.880 you how you look at them wait when you say you're rare in terms of your political beliefs what did what

02:51:43.400 does that mean honestly i mean i realized that politics just not for me to um like in the last couple

02:51:51.720 months but i just don't really have like i don't know how to explain it wait did you say politics

02:52:02.360 is just not for you yeah oh no no okay so no i agree that is rare and that's actually what men are

02:52:09.560 looking for because okay if you're into politics you actually know you actually have to stop laughing

02:52:21.240 you actually have to have a lot of love for the people to be in politics and be passionate about it

02:52:27.000 and i don't have love for the people so i don't care wow like i like keeping up with it i just like

02:52:33.960 don't have the passion that i'm willing to devote to it well the thing is the man doesn't want care

02:52:40.600 about your political beliefs so so in a sense you do have the right perspective just not care about

02:52:47.080 politics important though and your political beliefs like kind of say a lot about your personality and

02:52:55.160 how sensitive you are i thought you said politics are not for you

02:52:58.600 so a guy that doesn't like politics like a like uh working in politics i like politics as a hobby

02:53:06.120 but i just don't it is for you i just wouldn't ever be a politician or go into that field

02:53:13.000 i don't blame you or like kind of brand myself you wouldn't go into politics no any of you ladies

02:53:18.520 want to get into politics i think we got some poetry why are you laughing so much i mean i just

02:53:23.560 i have three degrees relating to politics you have what three degrees relating to politics yo

02:53:29.160 i can't tell um wait okay so hold on where were we were you talking to me i don't probably not wait

02:53:37.000 we were going around the table oh what would you want the minimum oh okay five so five hundred

02:53:41.160 thousand dollars you want a one percent guy you scoffed at it you think you're one guy you let me ask

02:53:46.920 tiffany tiffany let me ask a couple questions here okay how many children do you want

02:53:51.560 two two two okay are you a virgin yes

02:54:00.680 um are you going to homeschool your kids yeah are you submissive i could be what do you mean you could

02:54:09.720 be um i'm not a submissive person in general but i could submit if i chose to to your boyfriend or

02:54:16.920 husband yeah uh will you take your husband's last name yeah will you um i don't know what uh

02:54:33.160 shit it evaded me the question left my brain i think she wins is that a one person is it that

02:54:38.680 might be your chat is it one percent does she win is she one percent girl what's the major of your

02:54:43.560 boyfriend virgin he's also poli sci will you get rid of going to law school will you have the tattoos

02:54:50.520 lasered off if he pays if he pays for the removal yeah if your boyfriend will you stop listening

02:54:59.160 never mind um he says you can't get a nose job too he says you can't even if you can't get a nose job

02:55:05.320 i can't get one you got to stop listening to kanye will you do it very long as you prove you are

02:55:11.320 okay or how about you can listen to his first three albums oh it's guys if the guys like oh you

02:55:17.080 shouldn't get a nose job and stop listening to kanye because of what he tweets and stuff and stuff like

02:55:22.760 that like i already don't like you like we're not compatible and he's probably kind of gay wait a

02:55:29.080 second if he says don't get a nose job yeah you're not gonna but he'll let you'll let him remove the

02:55:34.920 tattoo but not not get in the way of the the nose job i mean what is his passion with for the nose

02:55:41.640 job that is i think that's a crazy hill to die on depends on the reason behind why he doesn't want me

02:55:46.840 to get a nose job because most men don't care if women get plastic surgery as long as it doesn't look

02:55:51.480 botched if i'm still if it looks good men generally don't care but if the man's if my boyfriend is

02:55:59.000 like oh don't get a nose job because you look fine and perfect already that's like such a woman thing

02:56:03.320 to say like you're so gay okay how about how about if he says you can get a nose job but i get to

02:56:10.360 determine the shape of it like why would you want like what if he likes a piggy what if he wants a

02:56:16.920 piggy nose which knows for his wife because he thinks that's attractive yeah attractive yeah what

02:56:21.480 if he says that 500k he's the man of your dreams if 500k is not the man of my dreams because i would

02:56:29.800 also be making that much oh there it is you should do a one-size-fits-all store i feel like you could

02:56:35.560 you could corner every market with that all right uh what what would you want the minimum yearly income

02:56:42.520 to be for your future husband depends on the it depends on the zeitgeist at the time the the what

02:56:48.760 the zeitgeist whoever's president you know the economy things like that as long as i'm comfortable

02:56:54.520 50 to 80 would be nice okay felicity what about you 150 150 all right how tall are you and what's the

02:57:02.680 minimum height of a man you would date um i'm 410 the shortest guy i date is like 5 5. what about you

02:57:12.520 i'm 5 6 uh sure this guy i would date is like i don't know i don't care

02:57:20.680 profound i'm 5 5 and i think i put in a you did put in a what a surprise at least i'm consistent

02:57:29.560 what about you i'm 5 2 and i think the shortest guy was 5 9. okay tiffany 5 5 and 5 9

02:57:38.760 excuse me yeah that's kind of how it works my apologies

02:57:48.120 i don't know how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date oh um

02:57:53.480 i'm 5 1 so it's pretty diverse there probably 5 5 if i had to sure felicity i'm 5 5 shortest of a day

02:58:03.240 like 5 8 or 5 9 sure all right uh would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random

02:58:11.720 bear on a hike um totally a man i could probably take him out better than i could a bear okay what

02:58:19.800 about you i'm gonna say bear what about you i said bear definitely a man why would i cross path with a bear

02:58:32.200 man okay man i put i don't know but i think man okay a tough one but i chose man man so wait

02:58:42.200 bear bear bear for the two of you okay why do you why do you pick bear why don't you pick man

02:58:50.120 listen you're gonna think i'm bad faith for saying this but i just

02:58:53.640 adore animals more than anything cool what about you about trees i just been in too many essay

02:58:59.640 situations too many stories i don't want to be on a path alone with another man okay so like sort

02:59:07.560 of your own anecdotal experience you've had a lot of bad experiences so you pick a wild animal over a man

02:59:16.920 what i mean

02:59:22.520 if you had to attribute like let's say the risk the likelihood of risk or risk percentage

02:59:29.800 if you had to say okay i think 50 of men would do this or maybe 20 or 80

02:59:37.960 if you had to put a percentage to it what would it be a percentage of men that would essay yeah

02:59:47.000 i don't know yeah i know how about a guess i don't even want to say because that's just

02:59:52.920 insulting to the male species like i don't want to assume a percentage of men that would

02:59:57.480 do you think it's a majority of men

02:59:58.840 i don't know okay i would hope not here do you think it's a minority of men

03:00:08.600 there's some sort of percentage of course but i just don't know what it is yeah just take a guess

03:00:14.280 i'm not your guess doesn't have to be correct it could just be a guess i don't want to guess because

03:00:20.440 it could if i guess too high it can make me look bad if i guess too low it can make me look

03:00:24.040 by like i don't know good girl but i think in a way she actually gave you the answer

03:00:29.880 did she though she doesn't know what yeah no i didn't give you what's the answer

03:00:35.000 she gave you the answer that says what how she says no that's not giving it

03:00:41.080 wait are you saying it is are you saying no that's what i'm more comfortable with he asked

03:00:45.320 me in general generally saying what's the percentage of all men that would essay that's

03:00:50.200 like a different question i'm just not comfortable alone with men wait but you're comfortable alone

03:00:55.080 with bears that's that's the answer at least i won't end up in an essay so there's not a

03:01:00.680 possible well it'll eat your face off though but like that's the thing is if you know as long as

03:01:05.960 you're not going to get essayed the danger of a black bear let's say attacking you uh why does

03:01:12.120 the bear have to be black because they commit more of the attacks not an african-american bear

03:01:17.000 bears aren't asexual no it's actually true that black bears commit more of the attacks

03:01:23.480 um so the the question is how did you like you're just going from your experience that this has

03:01:30.920 happened to you before but brian asked you a fair question is to say like well a lot of things

03:01:35.560 happened to other people before and isn't it fair to say statistically that there's more people who

03:01:41.480 don't commit aggression against other people than there are due just for any given uh for any given

03:01:50.040 like violation a lot of essay cases go on reported so i don't know

03:01:59.080 yeah based off of the data that is out there you can look at like the doj the fbi crime statistics

03:02:06.440 so you could base it off of well what we do know so based off what we do know based off feminist

03:02:13.640 propaganda that you've likely heard what do you think i'm not answering but i did answer the question

03:02:21.400 related to comfortability and i would be more comfortable in the face of an animal than i would

03:02:26.520 a male alone wait i'm just a little confused you said you don't like to be alone with men yet like

03:02:31.880 there's a video of you in the pool like letting the dude pour alcohol down your throat there was

03:02:38.760 several people around we were not alone okay so um have you ever had the one night stand

03:02:46.840 i have had one yes okay is that how you met your and actually i wasn't alone i had a friend you the

03:02:53.960 friend was a witness to your sexual encounter the friend was in the vicinity of it was an orgy no

03:02:59.960 it was an orgy okay um i didn't go alone to a man's place okay

03:03:09.960 so you're saying that let's switch up the scenario let's say in at the zoo there's a section it's just

03:03:16.680 a man at the zoo right and you're at the zoo alone and you're you're like looking at all the animals

03:03:22.440 from afar you're telling me that you're more likely to get into the enclosure with the bear than the man

03:03:29.960 if you were to choose a zoo is a really bad example why to use yeah just engage with the

03:03:37.480 hypothetical i don't know yeah i don't know bro how do you yeah if you had to pick one

03:03:47.640 do you get in the enclosure with the bear or with the man

03:03:50.360 seriously i don't know you gotta use those poly side bro how do you mean you don't know here do you

03:04:02.120 need how about this i'm gonna give you 10 seconds to figure it out one two i don't know i did figure

03:04:08.200 it out that's my answer yeah that okay think about it though there's here's the hypothetical you can get

03:04:15.160 it in one or the other and you have to choose which do you get in

03:04:23.560 here watch let me make it simpler bad like just question in general no it's no it definitely is

03:04:30.120 because a lot of times that people are going to commit violence or whatever uh when people are

03:04:36.360 alone right so if you're saying a zoo and there's other people right no i said no no i said that no i

03:04:41.800 said there's no one there but her it's just her she's the only patron at the zoo for sure i understand

03:04:46.200 what she's saying then for sure what she what do you mean she's saying she doesn't know she says

03:04:50.040 she doesn't know if only it was opposite day so okay how about this if they're alone and she's alone

03:04:58.840 she goes into the bear enclosure whatever right she could get eaten right but if she's alone and

03:05:07.160 she goes into the male one what's what's worse what's worse getting essayed or getting eaten i

03:05:13.240 think getting essayed to be honest so there's a bunch of people that's always trying to gaslight

03:05:18.840 you tell you that that's not what happened and blah blah blah this time this you'd rather die than

03:05:23.080 the low percent chance of getting essayed it's not a low for chance how how did you determine the

03:05:29.000 percentage that's what brian asked you how do you determine the percentage of going into an enclosure

03:05:33.080 i mean she probably won't say it but to me i feel like 50 whenever i'm around like majority of men

03:05:40.280 okay how many times i am not yeah what percentage give us a percentage me okay 80 80 okay so 80 percent

03:05:46.680 four out of five men are essayers do you have brothers yeah i have brothers you have multiple

03:05:53.000 brothers how many brothers i have two two so okay one of them maybe even both of them are essayers

03:05:57.640 okay this is just an extension of your own logic okay so you're just you're acting like that's going

03:06:04.520 to hurt my feelings or do something to my brain but it's just a possibility anyone i mean i'm not

03:06:09.800 really concerned if it hurts your feelings or not but typically people like you're like trying to get

03:06:13.640 a getcha moment it's not really a gotcha but so just to be clear your own blood your two brothers

03:06:19.240 yeah one or both of them are one of them is a piece of shit i'm not going to sit here and like

03:06:23.400 then like defend them what about your father is he uh 80 chance he's an essay i mean it could be

03:06:30.280 uncles cousins could be your entire family okay i don't know but from my perspective and like my

03:06:37.400 experience most people are just like that yeah this is this is why i try to bring this hypothetical

03:06:44.200 into more realistic things um you know the path in the woods is actually of common enough uh but i would

03:06:51.320 say the most common uh example of a man and a woman in an enclosed area that happens every single

03:06:57.960 day would be a man and a woman in an elevator would you agree and how many women have felt

03:07:03.000 uncomfortable no first i didn't ask if they're uncomfortable we're talking about the reality of

03:07:06.760 something happening not what you feel okay so would you agree that the one of the most common

03:07:13.080 habitual moments where men and women are together alone it would be an elevator yes okay so if you were to

03:07:20.520 take a hundred elevator trips with men and women there's just a man and a woman in there like uh

03:07:26.360 you could take a live feed of like a security camera you could probably collect this right is it more

03:07:31.400 likely that uh we would find an essay in that example uh is that more likely than if we introduced a

03:07:39.800 bear it's still not a good example what do you mean because get off the elevator what are you talking

03:07:45.560 about or whatever like you're still not what are you talking about the man the man can hit someone's

03:07:50.360 not getting a man in an elevator someone's good if it's if there's like a possibility that someone's

03:07:56.360 going to come in what are you talking about why would they what like say you in a what are you talking

03:08:01.320 about you can stop you can stop the elevator if a man stopped the elevator while i was in it

03:08:06.200 alone with him i'd freak out i know how many times went on on like cctv and all these security cameras

03:08:13.240 how many times do you think it's happened where a man and a woman were in an elevator and the man

03:08:17.720 didn't do that versus when they did the reason why there's those videos and it stops happening is

03:08:22.920 because they're not even in the elevator answer the question if i'm stuck on an elevator with a man

03:08:27.320 like i just told you he could push the button you said you'd be scared at that point i'm asking if the

03:08:31.480 first step of essaying in this instance is pushing the button and stopping the elevator and doing this

03:08:36.520 thing i'm so i'm asking you what's more likely to occur a man in an elevator attacking you being

03:08:43.880 that you're both alone in the elevator or a bear attacking you if you're both alone in the elevator

03:08:49.000 both same likelihood because same likelihood are you talking about an enclosed space versus i'm in

03:08:56.520 alone in the woods oh so men oh so men so so men are more likely to aggress you if you're in an

03:09:01.960 enclosed space i mean yes that bear what do you mean no i'm saying they would both attack you at

03:09:09.800 that how many now i'm in close vicinity versus we're in the woods and the bears over there and

03:09:13.320 i'm walking on my well it is wait so is the woods an enclosed space or not no the woods is not an

03:09:18.680 enclosed oh so that's not consistent then i mean that's why your example was bad well well a field

03:09:24.040 isn't an enclosed closed space you know how many people get aggressed in in an open field i mean

03:09:30.120 i don't i don't understand i don't understand what your your standard here is like how you're

03:09:35.080 measuring this stuff we're talking about a field or a wood space i just gave you an example that

03:09:41.720 happens every single day in every building right here in this city right there's an elevator where

03:09:46.200 there's literally like a seven hold on ten foot hold on different space no hold on they are in

03:09:52.040 you're you're enclosed in the same place and what you said is how many bear attacks happen versus essays i

03:09:59.480 just want to know also what if the bear is in the elevator that's what i said i said they at that

03:10:04.280 point they would both likely attack me because we're close together now there's like a okay not

03:10:08.600 really a bear is not guaranteed okay here's here's a here's one more follow-up question we can move on

03:10:14.680 one more question if a bear was in an elevator with you right or on a path if a bear was on a path with

03:10:21.880 you would you want another bear an additional bear or a man what if a bear was on a path with you and

03:10:29.800 you thought look look if you if you were on a path with a bear and you were you looked at the bear and

03:10:34.440 you were fearful of the bear would you want an additional bear or a man

03:10:38.760 i would want a man okay at least the bear could attack the man like i'm not that's

03:10:56.360 that's the reason

03:10:58.680 my has donated 200 i can't believe it but alien is the sweetest and most honest soul on this panel

03:11:07.000 she can answer a question i know you like trees and i'm working with a twig let's make it happen

03:11:14.600 wow you want to think he's shooting a shot to be honest i don't know what to tell you dude i'm

03:11:22.520 not looking for a relationship but thank you

03:11:27.800 i don't know this whole man versus bear thing it's just all cap like have you guys seen a woman's

03:11:32.120 reaction to a spider i have a spider i just think it's unlikely for a bear to attack you and you know

03:11:39.800 like to actually delete you i feel like they're gonna maul you and then you're just gonna be left

03:11:43.800 like that you know uh no they're probably gonna it's they eat you alive bears eat you yeah not always

03:11:51.560 and men don't always essay women with that the fuck what the fuck yeah it's just going off on

03:11:57.720 everyone yeah that's what everybody can get the smoke i guess um how about this um if you could this

03:12:03.800 is sort of related uh to the two women who answered bear if you could get rid of all men and this would

03:12:09.720 mean that women would never experience essay from men again would you do it i don't think it really

03:12:17.320 matters because you could still get essayed by women too yeah listen i've been there so i'm just

03:12:25.880 okay fine how about in this hypothetical uh essay becomes impossible so women couldn't essay you either

03:12:32.520 but they get to kick it but all the men gotta go

03:12:39.720 what i mean of course i would want to be in a world where no one gets essayed

03:12:43.800 so just to be clear you would get rid of all men if it meant that another woman would never

03:12:53.480 experience essay from men again if they were going to go anyway i wouldn't just voluntarily be like

03:12:59.480 hey all men need to you have the power like you have a magic button you press the magic button all men

03:13:05.480 disappear and that means no woman will ever be essayed again how about essay just disappear huh how

03:13:12.280 about that cool answer the actual question though done just answer why can't you it's just answer

03:13:20.840 the question if it's in the sake of essay then i would say yeah i mean to me it's kind of a betrayal

03:13:27.960 because my best friend is a male right but like i said for the sake of like essay i probably would say

03:13:34.840 yeah men can get the fuck out of here okay what's your answer i answered it already no you didn't

03:13:43.960 answer the question what is going on like i feel like i'm saying words i'm speaking english right

03:13:48.680 i said well how about you didn't answer the question

03:13:53.960 here two plus two equals what depends on the person you're actually

03:14:00.520 you're actually a fucking retard okay relax calm down no just like can you be good faith answer

03:14:07.480 the question i did answer it you just don't like my answer you said i wish essay would go away no

03:14:13.160 that's not an answer i said how about essay just go away if you're gonna you know imitate me at least

03:14:17.720 get the sentence correct it's a hot take wow great maybe we can war can go away too i love these

03:14:24.760 empty platitudes you know what i mean this isn't bad what's her hypothetical answer so just let her

03:14:32.360 yeah i did give a hypothetical i answered your question with the hypothetical i was like how

03:14:35.480 would essay just disappear yeah that's not answer but it's a hypothetical answer wow i don't even

03:14:42.680 know what the fuck that means why don't you answer the actual question holy

03:14:48.440 shit don't be pissy when we're going fucking late because y'all can't answer a question answer the

03:14:56.600 question

03:15:00.520 this seems like an easy answer like no i wouldn't fucking eugenics the entire male species because

03:15:08.280 like a one percent of them are criminals and predators but okay your refusal to answer the

03:15:15.320 question further points i mean you you won't actually give an answer but i'm just going to

03:15:20.120 assume then that your refusal to just immediately knee-jerk no i'm not going to kill three billion

03:15:26.840 people so that some people aren't uh victimized yeah you're a sexist against men why are you attacking

03:15:37.000 me why are you refusing to answer the question i'm just being myself what you told me to be at the

03:15:42.760 beginning of the show annoying then i'm annoying to you no you're just annoying period

03:15:53.240 just i i don't understand what's so difficult here

03:15:57.320 do you not understand the question i can clarify would you like me to provide a clarification i

03:16:02.680 understood the question perfectly okay repeat the question back to me you were asking me if i'd get

03:16:07.160 rid of all men if that meant that essay didn't exist anymore yep cool i said what i said yeah

03:16:14.920 why are we going yeah you said essay bad i agree with you essay bad do i need to repeat the question

03:16:21.000 again what okay there's two possible answers to the question uh-huh yes i would get rid of men no i would

03:16:30.680 not get rid of men and i answered it which of the two i just didn't answer it the way you wanted me

03:16:38.680 to yeah it's not answering the question i thought this was a podcast and i could answer questions the

03:16:44.280 way i like to answer questions yeah but there's an expectation that you participate in good faith

03:16:50.200 i am participating no you're not yes i am i'm actually i've actually been contributing more to

03:16:57.160 the conversation contributing yeah but you haven't been actually contributing in good faith what these

03:17:03.800 are my answers now i'm lost it's not okay i'm confused if a question is asked and buried in that

03:17:12.200 question is two possible answers and you refuse to pick one of those two possible answers and you just

03:17:19.720 say well a component of what is inside that question i disagree with that specific thing that's not an

03:17:27.000 answer to the question so like look chocolate or vanilla ice cream chocolate okay you didn't say

03:17:32.520 strawberry no i didn't why not because you said chocolate or okay that's what those questions

03:17:38.200 that's a simple question these aren't simple questions i'm not saying it's a simple question

03:17:41.960 it is actually presented as a simple question uh the answer i mean to most people i mean anyone else

03:17:47.000 want to answer the hypothetical do you eliminate an entire uh section of humanity because uh just to

03:17:55.640 eliminate the minority of perpetrations that are that are done by that group or do you not i mean it's

03:18:02.440 to me it's a simple not it's not justified right you don't just i think you try to make the circle

03:18:07.000 small as possible though yeah you don't eliminate right there's all sorts of crazy consequences and

03:18:12.360 entailments for eliminating the male sex right right but of course you know consequences should be done

03:18:18.120 you know for the guys to do that sure but that the question isn't that the question is simple do you

03:18:23.000 eliminate do you use elimination as a tactic to get rid of a small aspect of that population's

03:18:30.040 behavior the answer is no no yeah why is it not why is that hard to say no i mean it's a reasonable

03:18:36.600 answer to say no i wouldn't eliminate everybody because then that's also implying that you're okay with a

03:18:46.440 small percentage of the male species no it's not no logically not no logically that's how i think

03:18:52.600 you're asking me okay but now that we've gone ahead and granted that no if you were to say i would not

03:18:57.800 get rid of all these men how can i um i think it's extremely unfair that i can't like say what i'm

03:19:05.480 thinking like that's just how i'm thinking there's a logical failure and we're trying to correct the

03:19:09.640 logical failure logical failure of my opinion yes because your brother and your dad and your

03:19:15.640 grandpa and all that can be eliminated too and it's just not an answer what you were giving is not an

03:19:22.200 answer it's just there's a lot of it that you're not even considering i'm it's like you're coming from

03:19:27.960 an anger you what most of your reactions is coming from a wait hold on here i'll make this super simple

03:19:34.200 stop stop stop okay what do you think littering is bad yeah here let's put it split okay

03:19:41.240 put it split do you think littering is bad yes okay uh do you think we should end the entire human

03:19:48.760 species so we can stop littering of course not but littering is not essay hold on how can you

03:19:56.440 even compare those i'm going i'm addressing your previous hold on i'm addressing stop stop i'm addressing

03:20:01.400 your previous statement so your previous statement was if i choose to say no i want to

03:20:07.240 not eliminate all men that means that i'm justifying this action of essay right but you're very easily

03:20:15.160 like you saying no i hold on hold on let me explain it now i add it's it makes it's about to make sense

03:20:22.360 so i asked would you eliminate all humans to get rid of we all agree littering is a bad thing

03:20:27.400 would you get rid of all humans to stop littering no you wouldn't that doesn't mean that you're

03:20:33.240 saying that littering is okay because you would preserve all of humans in this case i you saying

03:20:39.800 that you would preserve all men doesn't mean that you're saying that essay is okay that's not what

03:20:47.480 we're simple you're just you're just saying that humans existing uh is more valuable than eliminating

03:20:54.200 littering or eliminating essay both of you guys's examples that you use which is chocolate and

03:20:59.160 vanilla and now you're comparing it to littering is absolutely horrifying essay is a completely

03:21:05.560 no those are two different things the chocolate and vanilla thing was to demonstrate how to answer

03:21:10.360 an either or question the the analogy he's using demonstrates that if you uh don't take some crazy

03:21:17.560 measure to eliminate something some sort of consequential uh consequentialist view where you

03:21:22.360 just eliminate everything um for instance if someone's a vegan and they're vegan because they

03:21:26.680 don't like harming animals well the best thing to do if you want to eliminate all harm for animals is

03:21:31.960 actually to eliminate all animals right now if a vegan says no i'm not going to eliminate all animals

03:21:37.560 i'm going to work on reducing the existing harm on animals right it doesn't follow that they support

03:21:42.920 harming animals if they don't hit the elimination button that's all we're trying to say got it i think

03:21:47.720 i think wait question um question uh if we could are you pro-choice or pro-life

03:21:56.440 pro-choice pro-choice muslim i didn't know okay um

03:22:02.920 okay well this won't really have i was gonna say um if we could if we could stop all abortion like

03:22:09.320 that's such a dumb some people die because they can't get an abortion it's like a medical need for some people

03:22:17.720 how about this if let's say we got rid of um all women who are uh pro-life like you just deleted

03:22:27.640 them and then like the next election cycle that would mean that if we got rid of conservative women

03:22:33.320 it would mean that they're just speak uh it would pretty much mean uh democrats would just continue to

03:22:38.920 win they're pro-choice uh so if we eliminated all pro-life women so that you guys can maintain uh

03:22:48.040 abortion rights would you do it

03:23:03.080 if i say just go ahead if you say go ahead if i say yes we'll eliminate all pro-life women

03:23:11.400 just to keep pro-choice that's also not that's me killing off a a good number of women but then if i

03:23:21.560 say we'll keep all pro-life women and get rid of pro-choice that's also killing off a percentage

03:23:28.440 of women because some people need to have abortions to live but it's a medical need for some people

03:23:35.480 killing off the pro-choice women it's just the pro-life women that you'd get rid of i know if i

03:23:40.920 said that i would kill off the pro-life women then that's a good portion of women that die but then if

03:23:47.320 i keep the pro-life women and get rid of pro-choice some women also die because it's a medical need for

03:23:53.800 some women to get an abortion killing pro-life women doesn't mean that abortion would go away

03:23:58.680 what like your your ability to get an abortion in a blue state would remain oh no i'm lost what you

03:24:08.680 just said so how does this question is different than the other question i still said i don't i don't

03:24:17.320 i wouldn't decide i just i basically still can't decide yes i was saying if i choose to keep but you

03:24:25.160 were leaning towards not killing but when i don't want to kill anyone okay there you go so she doesn't

03:24:30.760 want to kill anyone context is very important to you so what if the context was always you have to

03:24:36.040 decide or the world's gonna end or something nooks are gonna go off but you have to decide would that

03:24:42.360 context be helpful is there any context that would be like super helpful no okay so if you how about this

03:24:49.480 there's a bullet uh there's a gun to your head if you don't decide you get popped that's a good one

03:24:58.840 if you don't give out your yes and or no answer they would if there was if you had to yeah

03:25:08.520 so now are you asking if she would sacrifice herself

03:25:11.160 that's actually saving herself that's by opposite not by actually enacting the thing necessarily

03:25:25.720 but simply by giving your opinion yes in this no in this you're not okay explain it to me in this

03:25:34.840 hypothetical you're asking her whether gun to her head right gun to her head if she wants to kill

03:25:42.360 off one group of people over the other i think at this point i would just if i was her i would just

03:25:49.400 be like i would rather die because why why are you giving me that no no no no hold on just to me no

03:25:56.520 oh my god let me okay how did she doesn't have hold on because he's attacking me for whatever

03:26:03.000 reason she doesn't have the power to see said thing through the gun to the head is simply if you

03:26:11.160 don't just state an answer then you get the bullet exactly so just to be clear and you you're not

03:26:19.320 actually changing anything nothing actually happens you're just giving your opinion on something you

03:26:26.680 would rather take a bullet to the dome than just say then just answer a question i'm just confused

03:26:36.200 clearly why my life has to be at stake in the senate in the yeah have you heard of a hypothetical

03:26:43.000 why am i getting all the hypotheticals the reason we got to the gun to that is because it's the only

03:26:47.560 way we can get an answer from you that's not true and the thing is i'm answering the questions i'm

03:26:59.640 just not answering it the way you want me to which is do you prefer red or blue i prefer thinking orange

03:27:06.440 red yeah but it's like i gave you that answer doesn't affect anyone's life or leave anyone at

03:27:13.320 risk or no one dies and the answer yeah but if you answer any of the questions that we've asked you

03:27:17.320 tonight that doesn't have an impact either it does on me on my image i don't want to say anything wrong

03:27:27.320 bro whatever you're doing right now i feel bad like whatever you're doing now trust me it looks worse

03:27:33.640 than just okay look well since you're just being stubborn or whatever uh i'm just going to assume

03:27:39.800 you're a sexist then whatever okay cool some arabic or whatever that's i don't even know what that

03:27:46.040 means literally like the name of the podcast whatever okay cool um let me change it really quick

03:27:52.120 uh i'm assuming you're just gonna uh struggle with this one too or just be intentionally malicious but

03:28:01.320 let's change the question from

03:28:05.080 uh let's change it from black person or bear

03:28:10.440 do you think that if somebody picks a bear over black person that they're racist

03:28:20.760 you should spice it up and say it depends

03:28:23.480 i've literally literally i don't know like another i don't know and also i feel like you're intentionally

03:28:28.760 giving me more complicated questions and then getting more upset that i won't answer the more

03:28:33.400 complicated it's not complicated okay it's super simple if a white person is like oh i would rather i

03:28:39.560 pick the bear over being in the forest with a black person would you think they're racist wait a black

03:28:45.640 man i would ask them why it's random so the person is like it wouldn't matter if it's a black man or a

03:28:52.200 black woman i'd still pick the bear and i don't understand you but would you think they're sure

03:28:59.800 you understand you would you think they're racist no i'd ask why i'd ask why because i was victimized

03:29:05.560 by a black person well then i'd say that depending depending on the race well you said white person

03:29:13.480 is saying this so then yes i'd be like okay well then you're generalizing all black people what

03:29:17.480 oh that's literally what you're doing with men how exactly what that's exactly what you're doing

03:29:23.000 that's exactly your reasoning with men you said no i said i don't feel comfortable yeah yeah what if

03:29:29.160 i don't feel comfortable i'm not i'm not saying that all men would rape me because sorry great

03:29:35.960 i'm not saying that all men would essay me i'm saying i don't feel comfortable so i'm

03:29:41.560 flipping it back on me you're saying how i feel about that well you're saying you're more comfortable

03:29:45.800 with a wild beast than with a man but you the way you come to that conclusion is a generalization

03:29:52.920 correct no it's i'm flipping it on me and i'm saying i don't feel comfortable yeah you don't i'm not

03:29:58.120 looking at a man and being like oh no no no look i know you don't feel comfortable i'm going before

03:30:03.960 that how you came to the conclusion that you're not comfortable is you have that's a generalization

03:30:08.840 you have to you're taking from particular things that happened to me yeah and you're making a general

03:30:14.120 statement right and that's exactly why i said you're coming from anger towards men that's how you

03:30:19.720 generalize and in your head when it when why are you using the word anger because and i think that's

03:30:26.120 weird i'm not angry at all it is it it has to be i'm uncomfortable yeah but the source of that is

03:30:34.440 fear and then anger and resentment you can be angry has the same the same kind of negative feeling

03:30:44.920 towards men a negative feeling and i'm kind of offended actually that you're using the word anger

03:30:50.280 because i think that as women of color black women specifically they're always viewed as angry

03:30:57.560 and i'm not angry i'm uncomfortable and you said negative feelings those negative feelings all have

03:31:03.160 different statuses different emotions listen you can't generalize anger i'm not angry at all i'm

03:31:11.800 uncomfortable generalized men you know i did not generalize men i flipped it on me and said what i'm

03:31:17.480 comfortable with and what i'm uncomfortable with i didn't say all men would do that to me that's

03:31:22.600 not me but but that's your core belief when you when you pick a bear instead of my core belief is

03:31:29.000 based on me okay not me saying that all men would i say that about the base of it you you just said

03:31:35.720 the core that's the base there's no your core belief if you're gonna debate with your core belief

03:31:42.040 is picking a bear over a man period end of the story my core belief is that i'm uncomfortable being

03:31:48.600 alone wild bear that could kill you over a man because deep down you believe men are worse than

03:31:56.120 wild animal no what if she just feels that way about just people in general no we actually talked with

03:32:02.280 the question was a man and not just people yeah but i have another question people if you got to know

03:32:08.120 how even if it was how many minutes to get to know somebody in this case a man on the on the path

03:32:13.800 would then you determine you'd rather be with him than a bear is there like a you think there's like

03:32:18.120 maybe a threshold at which you you decided oh okay i trust this person no i don't think there's a

03:32:25.240 threshold it's just that still the bear no matter what it's just the uncom it's just the discomfort

03:32:30.920 of being alone okay do you have a brother i do do you have a father i do okay so let's take your

03:32:37.080 father you would choose the bear to be alone on the path with uh with your with you'd be alone on

03:32:43.480 on a path with your with a bear and you would choose the bear over your own father no i choose

03:32:48.200 my father but why because i know my father okay so that's what i'm asking is there a threshold where

03:32:54.040 you learn that the the the person earns the trust in this case a man what's the threshold at which the

03:33:00.920 man earns your trust such that you'll pick him over the bear um probably a few days weeks months

03:33:11.560 how much money does he have to make i'm just kidding um well that's what i'm asking it really

03:33:16.600 this question comes down to trust and knowing people and what we're what the initial question

03:33:23.880 is asking people to generalize it's actually forcing a generalization but it is wild because

03:33:29.720 if you look at it reasonably it's uh especially with the second hypothetical where you actually

03:33:35.400 encounter a bear and now you're in danger who do you choose you said a man right and i i disagree with

03:33:41.960 you i don't think it's forcing you to generalize because you're still asking me and you asked me why

03:33:46.840 and then i brought up a personal experience of mine so it's based on it's subjective it's based on what

03:33:52.920 i went through that's why i answered it the way right but the because someone like your dad exists that

03:33:58.840 you would is it fair to say there's people like your dad there are people like your dad sure okay

03:34:05.080 so um if there are people like your dad you know you're hedging your bet that there's less people

03:34:11.400 like your dad that are kind that aren't going to do this terrible thing to you right you're actually

03:34:17.240 assuming that there's more people who would hurt you than less yes why would you assume that

03:34:21.800 i'm not assuming that i'm choosing a safer option that is regardless of whether they would hurt me or

03:34:32.040 not okay that's that is choosing that like for instance if the if it's not the general question

03:34:37.480 of a man or a bear if there's a collection of men uh there's a hundred men and you don't know which

03:34:43.240 men you're gonna get like let's say that it's a hundred people you just have no idea which man you're

03:34:48.760 gonna get but you know there's there's men like your father in there if we ask you bear or man

03:34:55.240 your your your choice is still assuming the worst of the collection of men that the you're assuming

03:35:01.240 the the statistics that your bet right you're making a bet your bet is on that you're going

03:35:07.880 to get hurt if you choose the man and you're risking getting hurt with the bear you already know

03:35:13.240 is a high likelihood of being hurt by the bear i disagree with this because a generalization would

03:35:18.200 be me saying right now that everybody at this table as a woman should have chose the bear

03:35:24.360 because all men are dangerous in some way but that's not what i'm saying i'm saying i'm more

03:35:30.920 uncomfortable with being on a pathway alone with a male than an animal that's what i'm saying for me

03:35:37.560 but but there are people at this table that said they'd be more comfortable with a man on the pathway

03:35:41.880 okay cool why because they have their own personal experiences so it's not generalized it's well no

03:35:47.880 no there's a way to take their personal experience and see if it maps onto reality and to take your

03:35:52.920 personal experience and see if it maps onto reality that's exactly that's what i'm saying

03:35:56.120 so like i it doesn't match onto reality because i'm subjective like you're admitting that your own

03:36:01.640 i know but you're admitting that your own experience is inconsistent with general reality that most

03:36:06.520 men actually don't do that it could be because that's why when you asked me about the percentage i

03:36:11.000 didn't want to give a percentage because i don't know the percentage it could be a small group of men

03:36:15.560 are capable of sa versus a large group of men well that's why i use the elevator uh example because

03:36:20.760 that the elevator example demonstrates that a million times a day more than that i don't i

03:36:26.920 couldn't even put a number on it everywhere around the world there's a man who gets in the elevator with

03:36:31.560 a woman and more of the times that happens by a lot the man doesn't harm or even threaten the woman

03:36:39.160 okay but if you swap the man in the elevator with a bear what do you think the percent difference is

03:36:46.120 going to be with heart with someone being hurt i don't like the elevator scenario you don't like

03:36:51.800 i don't because it's it's a freaking enclosed room versus the woods like what do you eat dinner and if

03:36:59.000 so how do you decide what to eat don't compare i say to dinner i'm talking about your indecision

03:37:07.320 the pattern of your indecision i'm not talking about just because i have an indecision to these

03:37:11.160 complex complicated questions that also have emotional reasons behind them doesn't mean i

03:37:16.920 have i'm indecisive in my regular existence understandable okay okay but you agree that you're

03:37:23.080 a sexist i'm not a sexist i mean you kind of are though against men kind of are i'm not i mean

03:37:32.280 you'd rather be with a wild animal than alone with a man it's kind of sexist statement no it's just i'm

03:37:38.120 more comfortable with that that doesn't mean that i think all men are capable of essay yeah what

03:37:44.440 percentage i don't know she doesn't know but i mean you weren't even able to definitively say if

03:37:51.080 you would save the entire uh population of males in this in the hypothetical

03:38:00.360 i'm i'm lost i'm over what the hypothetical was

03:38:07.240 okay if you could stop essay but it meant you had to just get rid of all men would you do it

03:38:13.400 and you didn't give a yes or no correct i did not right the effect the the fact that you don't give

03:38:22.920 an immediate knee-jerk no i'm not going to delete four billion people or whatever how much it is

03:38:31.400 it's pretty crazy well that also sounds like you're like attacking the people that didn't

03:38:37.880 choose the answer that makes more sense to you as well the people who wanted to delete the four

03:38:46.920 billion people wait can you repeat repeat that one more time if if you're getting upset are you

03:38:54.920 upset is that the right word uh yeah i would the fact sure i mean i'll put it like this the fact that

03:39:01.000 you are essentially unwilling to save like a give an affirmative that you would save four billion

03:39:10.600 men but the entailment is well this crime that can has to like the the fact that you won't give an

03:39:16.600 affirmative on i want to save four billion people yeah that's pretty uh so would you debate that's

03:39:22.920 pretty damning so that's pretty damning so would you debate with a person that definitively made the

03:39:28.120 the decision to eliminate the four billion people to get rid of essay would you be attacking them like

03:39:33.800 you are me i would be attacking them worse but your refusal to answer the question points to

03:39:42.840 the same answer no it doesn't i it's it's you don't know what i would choose so why don't you just

03:39:52.680 save us a bunch of time and make things really simple which one do you choose or we could just

03:40:00.680 move on to the next question or you could just answer the question i'm so confused i have answered

03:40:05.240 the question you just didn't like my answer i have another one man or man like what she just is still

03:40:14.200 gonna choose the bear man or man bear pig from south park and also even when i did make a decision

03:40:25.480 i were debating about the decision i made which was the bear no but you didn't okay here i'll ask you a

03:40:31.480 different question it's like if i answer it i'll give you i don't answer you're still attacking me i'm

03:40:36.680 so confused i'll give you a fucking preamble and make the question i don't need you to give me a

03:40:41.560 preamble here in this question there's only two options there's only two options so in order to get

03:40:51.960 portion one in order to get rid of essay you can do so but you have to uh delete all men from the

03:40:59.000 planet or two you keep all men but the current reality of some women are essayed by some men that

03:41:08.600 would remain which do you pick of the two i don't understand why you're repeating the question

03:41:14.600 that was the question originally but i'm giving you only two if you had to pick between one of those

03:41:21.320 options does someone want to answer for me so we can move on nobody can answer for you i would keep

03:41:28.120 things the same okay i make i'm gonna make it really simple for you if you had to pick one or the

03:41:37.000 other which would it be

03:41:42.840 you know what's interesting is none of the women are calling you out on your

03:41:46.200 fucking bullshit this is what i call the little aggressive no woman here is calling you out on

03:41:51.320 your fucking ridiculous she did a little bullshit she did i'll give her a little bit i've been trying

03:41:57.240 because it makes no sense to me and i said that literally incoherent it's incoherent i've refined the

03:42:04.840 question where the answer you have to give is one or the other so pick one

03:42:16.840 i just wouldn't listen now look you're trolling you literally signed an agreement i'm not trolling

03:42:21.640 at all yeah you are no i'm not this is really genuinely how i feel and i i actually feel like

03:42:27.720 uncomfortable because i'm i'm genuinely answering the questions that you're not the way that i want to

03:42:31.800 answer the question so i'm not trolling this is genuinely how i feel so i'm a bit thrown off right

03:42:36.360 now and i i don't know if you're being serious here i'll repeat it so you have to pick one of the two

03:42:41.720 you don't have to repeat it like are you being serious like what's what's happening right now you

03:42:45.800 have to pick one of the one of the two answer the question i did answer it already no you didn't

03:42:52.760 no you just didn't like my answer are we being no cool you but you said well i wish s your answer was

03:42:58.760 i wish sa just didn't exist the question is if you had to pick one of okay do i have to

03:43:05.640 fucking draw this shit here you already repeat multiple multiple choice question i thought he was

03:43:12.840 going to draw a bear it might need a diagram okay so you know how there's like there's two options

03:43:19.400 here sometimes there's four right so i'm going to hold that up i don't know hold on let me put it

03:43:23.560 all right multiple choice question my fucking penmanship is dog shit you see how there's those

03:43:30.840 four i don't know here it's one two three four okay and then i'm gonna just check mark three

03:43:39.880 right check mark three i can't just in the middle i can't just write five i can't just add in five

03:43:49.560 that's what you're doing it's a multiple choice question pick one you're making me really

03:43:56.920 uncomfortable and as someone who's been essay that's why i don't feel comfortable choosing

03:44:00.920 between one or two of the answer so i said i didn't feel comfortable about this if you could take back

03:44:07.560 i'm so lost and i i'm i'm actually lost i'm because i'm participating in your podcast and i thought i was

03:44:12.920 adding great conversation but instead you're attacking me because you don't know if you're being serious

03:44:17.640 you refuse to answer a question and i did i'm not well lucky i'm not trolling i'm not trolling

03:44:23.160 i've been completely honest about who i am in my opinion since i got here do you know what a multiple

03:44:27.640 choice question is i do okay so there's two options right uh-huh if you're you ever taken the multiple

03:44:32.840 choice test yes i have okay can you just write in like a different answer no you cannot that's why i

03:44:39.160 didn't answer it in the first place yeah but so you now have to answer you can't force someone to

03:44:45.720 answer a question i guess i can't yeah i can't what is happening you could have moved on but you

03:44:49.880 didn't give a fucking answer lady you didn't give an answer you're claiming you gave an answer but you

03:44:55.560 didn't no i didn't claim i got gave an answer you literally just said you gave an answer no you okay

03:45:01.560 you're one would depopulate the entire human race well i i'm i'm

03:45:13.080 did she give an answer jim bomb no she gave a third answer but she did give an answer when i brought up

03:45:18.920 well what if it was your dad and you said i would choose my dad and so we were trying to get to the

03:45:23.080 bottom of okay if your generalization about men is given by your experience you don't generalize your

03:45:29.720 own dad given your experience so what's the difference and you said you'd know your dad right

03:45:35.880 but if we told you that statistically uh it's not the case that that the highest percentage of men that

03:45:43.960 exists are aggressors so we're what we're telling you is that your failure to answer is what i'm seeing

03:45:51.640 here is your failure to answer is given by your experience your your instinct is say no man scary bad

03:45:58.200 they could hurt me right so that's fair if i if i give you that and i say okay you're from your

03:46:02.520 experience you're reserved about being alone with men we understand that but not all men so your dad's

03:46:10.680 not included right there's probably other people you know that are men so we're trying to get to the

03:46:15.720 bottom of okay well what is your impulse to say man versus the bear pick the man is it justified what

03:46:22.600 we're telling you is it's not it doesn't actually comport with reality but you're holding on to your

03:46:27.880 experience as the arbiter does that make sense because you asked me about what i would choose

03:46:33.880 yeah it got to this well it got to but i i really like if we could move on because i'm starting to get

03:46:39.240 uncomfortable i'm uncomfortable that you won't answer the question okay well what it got to the point

03:46:46.200 where brian was asking okay well how far would you go to eliminate us a and it seems of these by the

03:46:52.600 way these kind of hypotheticals come up all the time to test people's logic so it's not like you

03:46:57.560 particular it's anybody well it is in particular because there's other people that's right but

03:47:02.280 waiting to answer the question and have conversations with you guys pointing it yeah but they're you're

03:47:07.880 the only one who couldn't answer the question why is that i mean you're also not giving everyone the

03:47:13.560 same questions to answer you guys you guys gave me so many hypotheticals we already answered that

03:47:19.240 question that's why and it made sense because i'm glad you think you make sense that's perfectly

03:47:24.600 fun i think i make sense too so we said well of course you do you think but of course you all think

03:47:29.640 you make sense too so everyone thinks they make a non-answer is not an answer i'm not going to accept

03:47:34.680 logic that you have to base your answers to that logic okay that was all men are bad and i didn't

03:47:44.120 say that right straight up bullshit didn't say that don't repeat things i don't don't say things i

03:47:50.200 didn't say no i didn't say all men are bad you said exactly that you say no i didn't i would eliminate

03:47:56.680 all men i didn't say that i said that what are you are you confused here just stop just stop let me take

03:48:04.200 care of this a non-answer is not an answer i gave you an a or a b question okay i gave you if you had

03:48:13.720 to pick between two things and you saying i don't like this component of the question you pick a or you

03:48:22.280 pick b if you had to if you had to pick one which is it

03:48:39.080 if you had to pick one

03:48:44.280 like on a mass scale if you think about it as like a mass scale i don't need you guys to tell me i

03:48:48.840 understand guys guys just allow silence until she answers what don't just answer the question

03:48:56.920 that's really weird just like yeah what is happening right now like i i thought that

03:49:03.160 yeah you can keep or you could just answer the question

03:49:08.280 you're being extremely disrespectful you're being disrespectful i'm not being disrespectful i've been

03:49:12.360 contributing to all of the i asked you a question i've been nice to everyone no you haven't no you

03:49:16.520 haven't you're fucking late you're super rude if we want to talk about super rude i apologize for being

03:49:22.040 late i drove from la to be here apologize to me so anyways i did when i walked in i said i'm so

03:49:27.640 sorry that i was late do you want to answer the question

03:49:30.440 i

03:49:41.080 and don't just say shit on the podcast for the sake of the podcast i wasn't rude to you

03:49:45.320 i apologize to both you and yeah cool do you want to answer the question i feel uncomfortable

03:49:50.120 is this called obfuscation or whatever is this uh rage quit

03:49:54.120 okay cool

03:50:03.080 i think that's a a rage quit there well uh hey you know

03:50:09.720 yeah you got nah you gotta leave you just gotta leave you just gotta leave you just gotta leave

03:50:15.880 yeah but you're nah you gotta leave the studio you just gotta leave hold on what did what's she asking

03:50:24.520 mary what is she asking no just say it just say it oh yeah yeah okay yeah you just gotta leave

03:50:32.040 nah adios

03:50:43.560 yeah yep go for it well uh

03:50:47.560 rage quit i guess uh oh wait hold on uh sweet okay here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna have uh

03:50:58.200 i'm gonna have you take that seat okay i got you and then just stay there that's fine

03:51:04.280 all right uh okay guys hold on oh wait oh my goodness i don't understand i don't understand

03:51:12.840 i don't understand what's lost i don't understand what's lost by answering the question even if it

03:51:21.480 even as a wrong answer who like i don't understand what the hill to die on was i i guess like let's

03:51:27.000 let's assume she does she did have an answer to the question it was either uh she would not get rid of all

03:51:33.080 men and it's just the so it'd just be the current status quo or she has to eliminate all the men yeah

03:51:42.680 like i don't understand does it does that her her refusal to answer it does that mean that

03:51:49.320 she would kill all men to prevent this particular crime from happening

03:51:54.520 is that eugenics or what is it what is yeah basically yeah i mean not it's like uh it's just

03:52:01.160 like a utilitarian you know approach and then and by extension wouldn't this be the end of the species

03:52:08.200 because i mean i guess i think she's just scared of sounding like she supports sa but we already

03:52:15.000 granted to her yeah it doesn't mean that at all i think she just didn't want to change her answer

03:52:21.640 no matter what she just predetermined how she wants to answer it and and she did and she just

03:52:27.560 didn't want to change that for the sake of even argument and it's to me made no sense yes well just

03:52:37.000 being a stubborn now we can i mean it's good that she left because now we can actually get back

03:52:42.440 to the show and get through some of the other stuff uh okay we have uh

03:52:47.640 uh wait she's sending in is she wait hold on oh no i've been essayed twice no this isn't her and i

03:52:55.480 can tell you i'd keep men around could have answered it directly ridiculous dude yeah totally well put

03:53:00.040 aliyah uh okay we have some messages coming through guys give me just a moment we have ben here

03:53:06.920 i apologize to chair one the tarred muslim who doesn't understand the hypothetical is becky

03:53:13.160 duh duh duh l's in the chat uh d's nates no woman has trashy tattoos like that and still has her v card

03:53:23.000 i think this is directed to you tiffany born again doesn't count lol she claims to want two kids but

03:53:27.960 will remind her children every day of their undesirable nose with her surgery what not top one

03:53:34.200 percent just average mildly attractive asian woman why did you put a star there do you want to respond

03:53:39.800 tiffany i'm not born again um my tattoos aren't that trashy compared to other tattoos some women get

03:53:50.200 and then at least he said you're mildly attractive that was like a bonus at the end

03:53:57.320 yeah that's that's a compliment that's like yeah it's a big deal for these chats

03:54:01.640 i tried hard to say that okay we have um thank you d's nates for your soup chat and then we have

03:54:07.480 libertariat prime i'm so nervous the chair two will sneeze and cheryl chair three will have to

03:54:13.400 stick in her hair what brixton is a brave man that the true black and white cookie of whatever

03:54:19.160 would have rather made it via stream labs but apparently the jannies blocked me from it in

03:54:23.480 addition to the discord not sure libertariat i don't think you're blocked on stream labs but

03:54:28.760 if you send me a dm i can try to resolve i don't know where you sent maybe you sent in some troll

03:54:34.920 shit or some tos shit possibly i don't know on stream labs but sometimes some people get banned or

03:54:41.240 whatever uh okay here we we did the gender swap right i'm pretty sure okay bro that was crazy i don't know

03:54:51.000 i'm so i'm really uh i'm shocked that her first marriage didn't work out

03:55:03.480 i don't know why that would have happened um okay let's see here uh okay one sec guys

03:55:10.120 uh here we're gonna get back to some of the pre-show notes one sec okay we did sammy we did

03:55:16.600 uh uh uh oh i didn't do the muslim girl's notes but what's her name sarah she's legally married to

03:55:29.720 someone who won't divorce her okay i don't know there's nothing else there uh here going to naz nazanine

03:55:37.880 did i say that right uh oh apparently we had you scheduled on the show before but then you said

03:55:45.320 you're iranian and a war just broke between my country and israel i was really looking forward

03:55:51.720 to coming on the show but i need to be able to focus and feel better it was remember what happened

03:55:58.200 is there a war no it was there was an attack it was an attack it was just we we were just

03:56:04.760 sitting and waiting for it to become a war because it was just um the first time ever that iran

03:56:14.360 basically through those missiles like i think it was hundreds of missiles or israel nothing happened

03:56:21.240 thank god but that just was the first time that that happened and i was just like i can't focus on

03:56:28.760 anything else it's just way too big because my parents live in iran everybody everybody lives in iran

03:56:34.600 and i and i couldn't just sit there and talk about dating when that was happening in the background

03:56:42.120 yeah okay uh christopher murphy with the uh 200 super chat thank you so much christopher

03:56:46.920 fucking finally thank god chair three is out um

03:56:55.720 i've never encountered that man i don't know usually you're like if you it simply goes like this

03:57:01.720 uh but if you had to pick one which would you pick and then they just answer it like it it didn't have to

03:57:08.200 be that complicated but um yeah i don't know it's weird it's weird i don't know how she made it this

03:57:15.880 far i think she wanted to i think she wanted to kill men that's what she wanted i said you're coming

03:57:23.000 from anger you're coming from fear that's the resentment toward all men like for you to immediately

03:57:29.320 think okay that man should be a batman so bear bear it is that says a lot about how you think

03:57:36.200 about men and she's like no that's my experience and i was like yeah that's in your in your head

03:57:42.360 this is how you see men yep yet at the same time you're okay with um some sort of stuff that you put out

03:57:52.120 there which would somehow bring the make it make the chance of being subjected to those problems

03:58:02.120 higher you know what is jim bob tell me if this is a good comparison it would be like if we were

03:58:08.600 someone asked us well if we could get rid of all women to stop uh the abortions the murder i mean

03:58:18.840 maybe she wouldn't view it that way but it's like by our world view it's like okay if if abortion is

03:58:23.720 murder you're murdering an unborn baby and unborn child yeah we would both be like no yeah no we're

03:58:30.040 not that's ridiculous even something more subtle like um eliminate marriage because uh there's some

03:58:38.200 sort of situation where women run uh you know they run free with all the money after the divorce or

03:58:44.280 something something horrific like that's in favor of them anything that that makes this like sweeping

03:58:50.120 um remedy that's that brutal i mean there was it was not a hard question to answer even the

03:58:56.520 the other gals answered it quite quickly they no i would never eliminate everybody would you i would

03:59:02.200 yeah oh you would you would eliminate everybody oh yeah for sure i think it definitely insinuates the

03:59:07.880 word you don't answer wait so you would eliminate everybody to stop anything uh to stop like it like

03:59:18.280 you guys said essay would you stop um well i mean that's essay what about like theft theft probably not

03:59:28.600 i mean i don't give a fuck about that right but essay stuff that actually matters like yeah no i did

03:59:34.280 so you would get rid of four you'd delete four billion men i would if i had the opportunity to

03:59:41.960 just delete every person off this earth i would oh okay who laughs after that's a clip um wait so

03:59:55.000 that's like that's like a version of her thing you just have it about a humanity she just had it about

04:00:00.200 men i don't think she feels that way about men that's why she's have that she was having a hard

04:00:05.800 time answering it but why do you feel that way about humanity though for me personally i just feel

04:00:12.440 like i've seen the worst in majority of people have you seen the best uh no not really no wait you've

04:00:19.400 not seen good in people no not really no really people don't show me the their good side for the most

04:00:24.200 part so really yeah do you feel good in yourself i mean yeah but at this point i mean but don't you

04:00:30.680 like the majority of people aren't you a tree essay or i mean if you consider kissing my hand and then

04:00:36.440 putting it against no consent i mean the tree didn't give you consent yeah you don't know that you don't

04:00:41.400 know that what if what if what if what we do okay but if it's like if it's if it's growing towards me

04:00:49.160 it must oh wait a second wait a second the other things can grow towards you yeah and that can be

04:00:57.080 involuntary so i don't know if that's a good system for you but for like plants and stuff it's a whole

04:01:03.560 different thing it's a whole different wait can we get a tts from like maybe redwoods or um cedar cedar

04:01:12.200 tree uh what what's like what's canadian hemlock or some uh i think that's a type of wood or a tree

04:01:20.120 or something can we get um maybe can you tell us if you consented to her her kissing the we got all

04:01:30.280 sending chats we're gonna get different types of trees we're gonna get some trees can we get some uh

04:01:34.360 what what are the that's so cute like the little roots and stuff all grew dude yeah that would be so

04:01:41.000 cute and do it please what's your what's your preferred terrain in minecraft hmm what's your

04:01:46.680 preferred uh you messed up by thinking i play minecraft maybe like a maple tree a chestnut

04:01:55.080 chestnut tree lately i've been like into like junipers and probably walnuts but i love that for

04:02:01.000 you yeah very niche slay queen but i mean for the most part i'm into mushrooms right now i think they're

04:02:06.840 beautiful that's beautiful that's beautiful yeah i love that for you um okay uh let's see here

04:02:13.320 notes uh we have val uh tell us your catfish story oh my god you can just read it out loud because i

04:02:21.160 read it really well okay fine um you said that you were catfished in 2010 your older sister her

04:02:27.240 boyfriend and you agreed to meet the man of the hour at the movie theater you were 16 at the time and

04:02:34.040 he had just turned 18 he was a solid 300 pounds at least all blubber you were honestly impressed

04:02:41.640 that he was able to crop all of it out on facebook you went on the date but you were too naive to

04:02:46.920 realize that you that you had absolutely no reason to feel bad for him due to your own apparent

04:02:52.120 predilection for masochism you proceeded to invite him back to your house you ended up in the backyard where

04:02:59.000 eventually he broke your mother's lawn chair in front of all your cherished loved ones apparently

04:03:04.520 humiliating you with his optical falsehoods wasn't enough which you frankly still find to be quite

04:03:10.600 unfair moral of the story sympathy is hell's favorite pavement material yeah and then i said all blubber

04:03:17.480 baby not just all blubber oh all blubber excuse me all blubber baby all right that was cool that was

04:03:23.080 amazing and uh let's see here oh uh you said how to leave an abusive relationship you had some

04:03:30.360 advice oh yeah so i basically dated a guy that was a mean girl and it was like he would just say

04:03:37.960 backhanded things to me all the time and obviously that could easily wear you down i feel like a lot

04:03:42.840 of guys do that so what i did was anytime he gave me something if i found any truth in it

04:03:49.560 i would take it and i would change it and by the time i was ready to leave that relationship i was

04:03:54.920 fully healed way better person than i already was um yeah i feel like that's it just helped me a lot

04:04:02.920 and i feel like that's just good advice if people are in like i don't know like mentally or emotionally

04:04:09.720 abusive relationships i feel like that's the one solution that worked for me what what um what were you

04:04:15.240 doing to him that was abusive i wasn't doing anything oh okay sorry i thought you said you

04:04:19.560 were in an abusive relationship so i thought you might have been the abuser no but did you hit him

04:04:25.880 no no uh that was financial that was a reasonable question um no he was just a mean girl oh he was a

04:04:33.400 mean girl yeah what was he doing he would just say like i'll give you an example we're in the grocery

04:04:41.400 store and it's crowded so i make sure to stay out of everybody's way and then we'll get in the car

04:04:46.040 and we'll be like you're in everybody's way like just make you just make me feel incompetent over

04:04:51.240 time it got to the point where a few years into a relationship i felt like if i didn't have him i'd

04:04:56.600 be homeless on the street wait but hold on sorry i feel like wait wait hold on hold on so didn't i

04:05:03.800 wasn't my question what did he do that was abusive and your first example was

04:05:08.120 you went to a grocery store and you you yourself were like oh i don't want to be in people's way

04:05:12.760 and then he said no whoa you really got in people's way that's the first example that you

04:05:16.760 give when i ask if how you were abused no what i said was this is an example of like what he would

04:05:23.800 do what hold on let's explore that thing you just described though is that abusive so him saying

04:05:29.640 you got in people's way it's kind of condescending if if yeah i don't think condescension is abusive

04:05:34.280 if we were in the store and you're making sure to stay out of everybody's way and then we left

04:05:39.960 and i was like you were literally in everybody's way the whole time was he saying it as a joke no

04:05:44.600 so he was getting on your case yeah i mean that's kind of weird but i don't think that's abusive

04:05:51.240 it's like death by a thousand cuts it gets old and well okay hold on so he's annoying one off yeah

04:05:58.040 i don't think being annoying or a jerk is abusive i feel like over time if it's intentional i feel

04:06:05.400 like it can definitely be mentally abusive so so wait he was like whoa you really got in people well

04:06:10.520 did you get in somebody's way no i literally that's what she's saying she didn't you know

04:06:14.520 that's just an example but it's i mean you kind of seem like someone who gets in people's way though

04:06:19.080 yeah i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm totally kidding yeah i'm pretty i'm pretty burly

04:06:24.600 fucking abuser oh my god i'm pretty burly wait did you uh like these little like little pecs it

04:06:31.000 sounds like there's a bunch of pecs at you right yeah so wait do you did you do you say things back

04:06:36.040 like i actually didn't for a long time i was just like so he doesn't even know that it's bothering

04:06:42.920 you well at first because i just thought something was wrong with me there's another time where well

04:06:48.440 that's not wait oh he might have been a jerk but that's you thinking when women think something's

04:06:53.880 wrong with them that's actually not a good excuse to make it about the the person because let's say

04:07:00.520 it's not a dude let's say it's your friend if you don't say it if you don't say hey don't

04:07:05.240 fucking do that yeah you know like what if they just don't know like no i agree with that yeah so

04:07:10.600 so what's like the you know the threshold because you're saying it's abusive but it sounds like you're

04:07:15.320 abusing yourself by not just saying something yeah and then it just adds to it because it's just like

04:07:20.040 you're stupid basically and i remember one time after work i cleaned the entire kitchen i redecorated

04:07:27.720 it whatever and then he came home i was so excited and in the back of my mind i was like i know he's

04:07:32.440 gonna fucking ruin this and he came home and i was like hey like i have a surprise and he was like what

04:07:38.840 you clean the kitchen you know what i mean hold on wait wait wait wait he was like isn't that obvious

04:07:44.840 yeah and i spent hours were you working at the time yeah i worked full-time did you you guys shared uh

04:07:51.240 you guys were living together right yeah okay um were you guys splitting the bills 50 50 yeah okay

04:07:59.160 and so what did he say exactly he said he just didn't give a wait hold on he didn't so

04:08:04.280 what can you be more precise in what happened yeah so say you no tell us what happened like what

04:08:14.440 actually sure so after work apartment well no i cleaned so our kitchen like i redecorated it i

04:08:19.880 cleaned every little fucking like crevice of the kitchen and i was really excited about it and i

04:08:25.560 knew in the back of my mind when he came home and i told him like if i got excited it would just be like

04:08:30.840 stupid um so yeah like when he came home and i was super excited he just was like who gives a

04:08:37.800 shit basically no no not basically what did he do he said he came in and he was like i was like super

04:08:45.640 excited and i told him i have a surprise for you and he's just like what you clean the kitchen and

04:08:50.680 i was like like at least it just sucks because if somebody does something for you could at least

04:08:56.520 entertain the thought of like appreciation i mean i understand uh but i mean i'm not

04:09:03.160 entitled to anything it's not abuse but i mean yeah like over time if it's delivered over time that's

04:09:09.800 all is it stay with him though wait but i agree i agree sorry sorry is it is it possible that you

04:09:16.840 didn't clean that well possible i tried my best at least i tried my best though you know that deserves

04:09:24.600 something she laughed she's a comedian it was something see how light-hearted she is look at

04:09:30.040 her eyes yeah i'm very jovial hold on that was look um so it's like it's kind of wait did you have

04:09:37.480 you did you ever get a haircut and he came home and he didn't say anything he didn't notice that you got

04:09:42.680 a haircut is that abusive no he's constantly up my ass too so it's like he was constantly

04:09:50.680 on my ass i couldn't really do anything that's a whole different okay here's the thing here's the

04:09:54.280 thing i feel like when you lead with my ex-boyfriend was abusive that's a little dramatic you're thinking

04:09:59.960 this no that's what you literally said i know so wait hold on i'm not accusing you of being dramatic

04:10:04.680 i'm saying what i said was dramatic yeah that's what we're trying to focus on like what do you

04:10:09.160 real are you being super hyperbolic then wait how do you be how can you be hyperbolic though about

04:10:14.600 i feel like abuse was a dramatic term for me to use for me to choose i'm not saying that

04:10:19.960 what you're saying but in the pre like this wasn't just some sort of like accidental slip of the tongue

04:10:25.720 in your pre-show notes you're like uh how to get out of a how to leave an abusive relationship you have

04:10:31.400 advice and you're now talking about this guy who said that you got in people's way at the grocery

04:10:38.680 store whether you did or not whatever let's say you didn't even and then you clean the kitchen

04:10:45.400 and he didn't acknowledge i'm sorry that's not abuse that's not abuse maybe he's a jerk

04:10:52.680 build up and make you feel incompetent and stupid so it is kind of abusive to her

04:10:57.720 wait it's on a consistent basis for her personality it is on a consistent basis the way the way she

04:11:04.440 would take it is personal no so why do why do we have to coddle because at the end of the day i mean

04:11:12.120 the fact that he probably had no idea that his words are so affecting her in a very negative

04:11:20.360 just put it on the ground wait why why isn't oh look look if she doesn't say something is very clear

04:11:27.000 with something like you know stop doing that that doesn't work for me like a man could just as well

04:11:33.160 using your standard say that's abuse and be like it's abuse for you to let this all build up against

04:11:38.360 me and not say anything i mean well i wouldn't say that i'm not going to defend that have you said

04:11:41.800 something have you confronted him so eventually he was like you know obviously he was like i can't read

04:11:46.360 your mind so i would start saying things like that and then you know things wouldn't change with him

04:11:51.080 but whatever like i that's why i wanted to bring it up because a lot of people deal with that shit

04:11:55.800 it doesn't have to be your significant other it could be somebody around you that's just constantly

04:11:59.720 knocking you down but if you find the truth in what they're saying why am i insulted by that

04:12:06.040 you can change it and then you can become a better person and by the time you're a better person

04:12:10.200 you don't even want to be around that person anymore does that make sense well now you're just

04:12:13.560 going to know if you know earlier on with people like yeah but but again i agree with brian i

04:12:20.280 wouldn't say that's abuse i think that's it you know i had to shift it all on you but i think the

04:12:25.960 toleration of things is actually self like you know i don't wouldn't call it abuse but if you're going

04:12:30.600 to call that thing abuse i would just say that's self that's like self-inflicted abuse and i feel like

04:12:35.880 people take advantage of that um not that it's it's still your problem at the end of the day and

04:12:41.320 that's what i meant by everything i just said yeah is you do have the power like if somebody's

04:12:46.440 doing that you can change it it is basically and just have to wait wait it is abuse this is

04:12:53.320 literally like wait you think you think she says hey i don't like this please stop you keep doing

04:13:00.040 it and you keep harassing her with those same like behaviors that is abuse well there's a form of just

04:13:06.760 to be clear hold on so just to be clear one of the examples she gave when i asked her to give me a

04:13:11.880 better example of the supposed and alleged abuse was i cleaned the kitchen my boyfriend came home

04:13:19.000 and he did not to a satisfactory degree yeah because some people do that on purpose they do that yeah

04:13:25.240 sorry hello uh let's get let's go back down to reality a boyfriend not acknowledging that you cleaned the

04:13:32.200 shared living space that's not abuse maybe i'll accept it's inconsiderate maybe i don't i actually

04:13:40.040 don't think it's even that it's also on so many other levels that this is happening yeah like it's

04:13:45.000 like like it's not just like her yeah but your standard your standard for abuse is super low like

04:13:50.280 you said uh doing something and someone asked you to stop and you keep doing it i crop dust my wife

04:13:57.000 over and over again she says stop what does that mean she told me to stop to me like i'm done for a

04:14:01.640 second i fart and i trap her okay so you don't have any responsibility no no i will not stop okay

04:14:11.000 well is that abuse yeah yeah yeah because you know she won't leave like i have a look what that's why

04:14:18.440 i'm gonna be honest with you like i'm gonna come on here and be honest with you i like to say a lot of

04:14:23.400 like weird slurs or whatever sometimes you know what i mean and i use that against my men and they

04:14:30.200 tell me all the time like hey stop like this makes me you know uncomfortable blah blah blah

04:14:35.720 this and the other and it's like something that i just do and i understand that it's abusive in their

04:14:40.360 head because they don't like it they don't but they ask me to stop but you keep doing it right

04:14:46.440 sometimes it just slips out but if i feel like it's too disrespectful like the other day i called

04:14:51.320 one of my dudes don't like the b word okay and he was like whoa and i was like yeah no dude i'm

04:14:57.800 sorry but like even to this point it is abusive i don't want to know what the b word is it is

04:15:03.240 abusive it's degrading wait biatch wait yeah oh that's that's probably okay but we try to avoid it

04:15:10.680 but it's probably fine no no no you're fine what were you saying yeah i mean i think there's a form of

04:15:16.120 it that it could be verbal but i wouldn't go to the extent and say it's just straight abuse it's

04:15:21.640 kind of like you said that makes your standard low because what does that make other people's

04:15:25.560 situations like i used to get like beat the out of dude yeah that's abuse you know like someone could

04:15:31.320 be mean to you and be inconsiderate not think about how you're feeling whatever but that's kind of just

04:15:36.840 mean you know i wouldn't say it's abuse like verbal abuse is one thing but yeah are you saying you

04:15:45.960 ain't seen yeah yeah that's you don't know that you know what this reminds me of harassment is still

04:15:52.680 abusive regardless it's just annoying you know i think i i think being i think being annoying or

04:16:00.200 being inconsiderate uh i don't think these are good things but i don't think it's just popping up

04:16:05.800 outside the door like every day you're not saying that that's abusive no that's scary right no

04:16:11.160 harassment is no that's harassment no it's legal that's illegal that's it doesn't matter if it's

04:16:16.040 no no no no no you don't go to court and hold on a second people some people don't give a fuck

04:16:21.000 when did we when did we even forward the position that it's acceptable to

04:16:25.080 like stalk somebody right we never said that you guys are sitting here saying harassment

04:16:29.160 does no does the judge does the judge say and we order you you know uh this fine or this jail time

04:16:37.880 for abuse or harassment it's the same thing what are you talking about no no there's certain activities

04:16:43.960 and you call them harassment right it's not you don't let there it's it's like harassment still is

04:16:49.720 another way of saying abusive actions well you're you're violating something no you're violating

04:16:55.560 something abuse using no no no you could do legal abuse right from your perspective

04:17:02.760 legal yeah okay so do it all so the thing that makes uh harassment a thing is that it's illegal

04:17:09.720 it's a legal problem okay but uh you can harass people online and like you're gonna have to find

04:17:15.800 this this threshold of when something's abusive or not and she's telling you you're really diminishing

04:17:22.360 what the abuse actually is for other people i hear what you're saying really i'm sorry if it comes

04:17:27.000 off to you that way because i'm not trying to say i'm just trying to make it clear abuse is assault

04:17:31.320 abuse is putting hands on someone abuse is hurting someone else physically abuse is not annoying

04:17:36.360 somebody and pissing them off it's hitting somebody dude it's hurting them it's trapping them like i've

04:17:41.800 you know there's so much shit it's crazy you know you're calling being outside somebody's room of

04:17:46.360 fucking abusive it's crazy really yeah no a lot of times whenever people are that crazy to actually

04:17:54.120 continue to give you a reaction or whatever or try to force you to have a reaction or whatever they're

04:18:01.720 it's because they're trying to hurt you and some in some sort of way whether it's physical mental

04:18:07.400 whatever sure like that's part of like cults and stuff like that they're literally doing abusive

04:18:12.280 shit to you to get you into the court so like make it make sense to me wait hold on so okay

04:18:17.960 people showing up at your place of residence uninvited you ask them to leave they keep coming

04:18:22.840 back that's abusive yeah yeah that's that's harassment but but that's not right it's a spectrum

04:18:29.000 right yeah but we're not it's on still the thing we agree with you we agree with you but the example

04:18:36.200 she provided where the boyfriend didn't acknowledge her cleaning and maybe was just

04:18:44.360 like that's not a pure shit communication i just don't think that she wants to devolve into like

04:18:50.040 actually stuff that happens to her if it triggers her but something like that like i can understand

04:18:55.880 her boyfriend didn't abuse her but the relationship long term was abusive to her

04:19:00.920 i'm not gonna grant that i'm not granting that i don't care i'm not granting that tiffany sorry

04:19:08.600 the only way that comes to my mind is when she she started thinking that he's doing this on purpose

04:19:16.680 to hurt her feeling to be able to have control over her that's that that is the only way that you can

04:19:25.080 say that's abusive because she got to the point that she felt like okay so you're doing it on

04:19:32.760 purpose to hurt my feeling knowing this kind of yeah but this is this is where women never take

04:19:39.080 responsibility if they're the ones who know what's happening and they're describing it as xyz in this

04:19:43.960 case abuse they have some weird excuse to stay in in the situation right every time she left she said

04:19:51.320 that she left but that that's how she got to the conclusion that he was trying to be was was she

04:19:56.760 abusing me i felt abused by this woman she was not answering who refused to just like answer my

04:20:03.400 question is that yo yo chat am i and i am i an abusive wait she says you're abusive i heard that

04:20:09.800 she says that i was abusive towards her she already told you like she like yeah she didn't answer

04:20:14.440 the question answer the question let's say like she said even if it was a question on a

04:20:19.320 perfect let me ask you a question she wouldn't answer it i love this i love this she already

04:20:23.960 answered sure i love this do you know what stonewalling is

04:20:28.760 is stonewalling abusive to do in a relationship wait i don't know what that means you don't know

04:20:33.160 what stonewalling yeah no please here i'll google it for you just so i give you the the perfect

04:20:37.960 definition you got to remember i have never been in a relationship so uh is that just like it's like

04:20:43.080 so the silent treatment a destructive communication pattern where someone emotionally disengages

04:20:48.040 and becomes unresponsive shutting down a conversation or interaction can be a form of

04:20:54.040 emotional abuse i was being abused by that woman because she was stonewall also hounding her and

04:21:00.600 she already gave her not answer i think it's a i think it's a perfectly when you've been invited to

04:21:06.120 come on a conversational discussion show there's an hold on hold on there's an anticipation that

04:21:11.320 questions are going to be asked i think it was a reasonable question to ask her as a hypothetical

04:21:15.400 question and i was like hey look answer one or the other she didn't do it i understand i think that

04:21:21.560 her problem was is that it tell us the question had tell us her s a involved in it and therefore

04:21:29.320 she didn't want to answer it whatsoever she didn't want to wait let me it doesn't matter

04:21:33.640 hold on let me ask what angle i you know oh i wish i did this uh i'll ask this is what i should have

04:21:39.160 asked her i'll ask you if you could get rid if would you would you get rid of all men hold on

04:21:46.600 wait wait hold on here i'm changing it okay i'm gonna change it okay so would you get rid of all men

04:21:52.840 to prevent one essay well if it's just one no okay so then like i guess where's the threshold like

04:22:02.360 like i said from my experience most people have taken advantage of me so for me and from my experience i'm

04:22:08.280 like so what's the number though if it's not one he's asking what is the number i already said 80

04:22:15.640 wait no that's not what we're talking um how about let's say to prevent a thousand different women

04:22:21.800 being essayed once would you get rid of all men a thousand women is a lot i'm gonna be honest with

04:22:28.360 them that's crazy i wish i asked that to her that would have been yeah that's that would have been

04:22:35.080 interesting yeah the threshold is really the the question in the end it's like what's the

04:22:40.200 you know what i what do you think jim bob do you think for the question of uh to prevent one essay

04:22:46.040 would you get rid of all men do you think she would have granted like she would have been like well no

04:22:49.480 i'm not not for one or do you think she would have still been like she would have said no i'm not

04:22:54.120 answering yeah i can't answer that she would just avoid the good times okay we have a couple chats here

04:23:00.280 that i'm gonna pull up that birch birch birch wood keep this one away from my wood

04:23:08.760 are you a fan of what what do you think about like um driftwood you know that the beach that washes

04:23:16.280 up on the beach it's cool to look look at yeah i like nature just a lot do you have any i'm not

04:23:26.600 never mind i'm not gonna ask it please christopher murphy says i have a friend named sugar maple

04:23:33.240 he said he was trunk deep in you alien he filled you up with syrup and you never called him back

04:23:40.360 for round two he feels abused sounds like me yeah wow that's really abusive of you alien that's crazy

04:23:49.080 uh okay well uh what is going on back there how many people do we have out of their seats we got

04:23:54.920 three they're getting antsy oh wait yo naz do you want to call uh you got a daughter right do you

04:24:00.600 want to call her to come be on the show i'm trying yeah get her let's have her join the show we got an

04:24:06.920 empty chair get her get her to join the panel get her get her to join the panel um uh boys this could be

04:24:15.560 the guys chat this could be the first ever mother daughter appearance on the whatever podcast if she

04:24:24.840 got chat help convince naz to bring her daughter on mother daughter good times it was the best of

04:24:33.480 times it was the worst of times it was the winter of my discontent okay i don't know that's like two

04:24:38.200 different fucking things combined um tiffany do you have any statements thoughts feelings opinions

04:24:45.640 didn't think so okay anyways wait what about what i don't know just anything

04:24:54.280 yeah what do you think about like trump's immigration policy horrible you you want more

04:25:00.520 people deported yeah obama deported more people than him i see okay you want you think trump's slacking on

04:25:06.120 the immigration definitely okay that's cool um all right we're gonna i think that's pretty much it

04:25:11.160 for my pre-show notes but we have the questionnaire so sammy you circled uh so the state by the way

04:25:19.320 chat i changed it there's no more double negatives it's just agree now not disagree uh men are not

04:25:25.320 physically stronger than women you agree um i agree because i think it can vary you know i feel like it

04:25:32.760 really does depend now in my personal experience that one guy used to beat me up like i said i got

04:25:38.760 some of my hit in so sometimes i won sometimes i didn't so sometimes it just varies you know and

04:25:45.400 also it's not also just about like weight and stuff like you gotta be careful with like short

04:25:49.640 chicks it's all it's always it's always like oh my personal experience me me me the fuck does that

04:25:56.360 guys what does that mean yo tiffany yeah why are you talking shit on my girl when he asked me a

04:26:01.000 question you don't want me to talk about from my point of view you want me to talk about from your

04:26:04.360 point of view or you want to answer yourself you're answering you're answering the question from your

04:26:10.520 point of view because that has he asked me not somebody else dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt he's asking

04:26:17.640 about men and women you don't let her talk to you like that she's been disrespecting you she's gonna

04:26:21.960 she's been pulling disrespect on your name all night it's okay because she's the epiphany of a pick me

04:26:27.320 like i'm not worried about it so are you gonna pick me tiffany are you gonna let her she just

04:26:32.920 called you a pick me are you gonna let her talk to you like that tiffany i mean are you instigating

04:26:39.000 i'm just clarifying that's what he gets paid for you need a cat sfx it's like all right well i have

04:26:45.800 uh so you're saying that men are we will both mash you what men are stronger generally but women

04:26:53.640 sometimes can get in a good hit right right so that's what i think but generally speaking

04:26:58.760 men are going to be stronger men are okay all right so you don't really have a

04:27:03.880 disagreement there um oh wait we have this girl oh man this would have been good

04:27:09.640 fuck should i tell her to come back wait i'm telling this right

04:27:14.600 come back boo she's definitely gone if you asked her to come back she's gonna be like it depends

04:27:18.280 uh i don't know it's like halfway to la now come back yeah if you're watching this sarah come back

04:27:24.600 because we gotta oh man we gotta get it this is some good stuff sarah come back put her cook come

04:27:32.360 back um i don't know felicity i mean i don't think so i think she might come back i don't think she

04:27:39.880 seemed pretty upset well you know listen we moved on from the bear conversation

04:27:44.920 yeah i don't think why did we move on we moved on because she walked out that is a true that is

04:27:50.600 true i was planning to move on very soon though i just had to ask her one more i just had to ask

04:27:58.680 her one more time to answer the question but okay it seemed deliberate at a certain point it's like

04:28:04.760 how do you just like what do you know and i'm not trying to be mean and i was going to say that

04:28:09.400 like with all due respect what do you know yeah true wow there's like actually almost nothing here

04:28:16.280 um um i don't even y'all just agree with sorry guys i'm looking over the okay tiffany you said you

04:28:27.720 would uh you would not date a police officer you would not date a soldier

04:28:33.640 why why would you not date a police officer tiffany they're just not my type what i like skinny guys

04:28:39.400 if they're skinny they're usually not skinny you like skinny yeah i don't like muscle so you like

04:28:50.440 femme boys no i just like model skinny like stick skinny guys need some crisp like they're dying a

04:28:56.840 little bit um that's a good question felicity she likes the the dying wait got leave it on the table

04:29:04.360 leave the power the crystals must be left on the table we must protect the energy the sacred the

04:29:11.240 sacred energy uh okay tiffany what about soldier you won't date a soldier

04:29:19.000 no because they're probably because they're muscular muscular uh okay all right well then i have nothing

04:29:24.360 for you then um and that's not even okay now as you said dating is harder for women why is that um

04:29:37.080 i guess we

04:29:40.520 we have to um i guess i'm talking about my experience let's say let's wait actually i agree with that too

04:29:48.600 yeah because there's just um um um it's i i believe it's getting harder and harder because um

04:29:59.960 because there's so many different layers or just keep adding to the equation that you have to go

04:30:07.800 through and sift through at least this is how it is for me and um and i think um is uh big

04:30:18.600 commitment is just not a thing for men especially in la is just uh it i guess it used to be easier to

04:30:29.400 um even talk about commitment or being in a relationship or but but now it's mostly

04:30:36.600 people want to just have fun and uh you know have a quick encounter and just leave and try other

04:30:44.440 people it's just becoming a trial uh competition but i think for men are these first-hand experiences

04:30:52.360 from you or this is what you've heard myself and what i hear because i thought you said you've been

04:30:57.800 like you haven't been in a relationship for wait yeah and you've been celibate yeah oh so the guys tried

04:31:04.920 to sleep with you but you don't want that it's mostly because of that it's it's just uh it doesn't

04:31:10.760 sleeping with people it doesn't come first for me it's it's something that comes later when you start

04:31:17.160 to getting to know people but that is pushed really at the beginning and from and i and i don't think

04:31:24.600 that's something that i would want to uh that i would be comfortable with well men have always

04:31:34.120 uh attempted i mean that's what they that's driving them and it's actually been the women who's uh

04:31:42.200 basically putting up the the segments of time you know like putting up the barriers and you have to

04:31:47.720 win them over courtship and all of that yeah um that's why i always bring up women's liberation i

04:31:53.000 think that also didn't help is that suddenly women were like oh wait i can sleep with a lot of people

04:31:59.960 and that's my power well now you get the worst of both worlds right because now the men expect to

04:32:05.560 sleep with the women because it's empowering for the women to be able to sleep with men and there's no

04:32:10.760 ties there's no nothing no commitment you don't even have to fear of getting pregnant because you can

04:32:15.880 just get rid of it this kind of scenario the liberation of both sides uh is really uh producing

04:32:23.080 really shitty fruits in my opinion and it's and it's worse for you uh at this point not just age but you

04:32:29.160 have a kid so that adds another aspect right so yeah i remember back in 2012 on instagram my peers like

04:32:37.080 my female peers would post pictures in lingerie and they'd be like don't objectify me right yeah that's

04:32:42.760 funny yeah that was like a whole phenomenon very strange very strange indeed very strange indeed

04:32:51.160 uh okay so do you think men are insecure if they care about body count

04:32:58.840 not exactly i just think it's a little weird how so because why would it matter you know depending on

04:33:07.240 again like depending on the situation you know i don't know but some guys will have like super

04:33:12.520 high body count and then they go after a girl who's like virgin and then yeah i think well

04:33:17.480 that's another thing but we can get into that i actually have a good way to reframe this question

04:33:21.640 but do you just have everybody answer do you think men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count

04:33:27.000 yeah yep no i mean i don't think they're insecure okay do you think it's like lame to care to i think

04:33:36.120 it's stupid and i like and i feel like the people that ask don't want to share theirs you know what

04:33:41.640 i'm saying i think and i think yeah i mean that's about it well how about maybe i should change it do you

04:33:48.040 think it's a reasonable question to ask is it a reasonable metric by which men uh can

04:33:55.800 uh choose to reject somebody yeah like for example the guy's like oh your body he's not like talking

04:34:04.680 shit he's just like oh okay your body counts 30 i don't want to date you yeah whatever but i mean if

04:34:09.960 you're blown out you know what i'm saying but if it's just like if you just like you know someone's

04:34:15.000 blown out if it's i don't think that's how if you ask you know what i mean if they're just like

04:34:21.000 yeah whatever i'm not gonna go down that path but like okay if it's too much then it's too much

04:34:26.840 i don't know like 30. uh do you think men are insecure for caring about i don't think it has

04:34:30.280 anything to do with being insecure it's their preferences and it's respectable tiffany no t-dog

04:34:37.160 no okay uh here i'm gonna change the question a little bit um so you said yes kind of like yeah i

04:34:44.280 don't think it's insecure i just think it's like an odd kind of preference to worry about unless it's

04:34:49.080 it's dramatic you know what if it's i i kind of want to maybe move from body count to promiscuity

04:34:55.320 so for example what if it's a man's preference that the longest period of time has elapsed like

04:35:01.960 the longer the better has elapsed since the last time she's had sex with somebody so for example

04:35:10.760 i don't know if this is the case for you but i think a lot of men would be grossed out by the

04:35:14.600 following the fuck a woman who you're interested in had sex with a guy the night before i think

04:35:24.040 most men would find that gross yeah is that valid or no i agree it's valid but so how far back though

04:35:30.200 until it becomes why do you care so like a week she's fucked a guy a week ago i still think that's

04:35:37.720 gross yeah i think that's a month ago not as gross still kind of yeah i'd say it's still a little bit

04:35:44.680 too yeah but it's like so for most men i think it's like we want that period to be as i mean ideally

04:35:52.280 she's a virgin right but if most women aren't so we want that period to be the longest oh it's been

04:35:59.000 three years seven years like her good for you i'm proud of you especially in la my goodness i know

04:36:07.720 for you i know props there's a lot of i mean dick slinging going on in la um insanity very insane

04:36:17.960 i feel like it insinuates too that they're not in your life anymore you know like the people that

04:36:21.720 you slept with a week ago sure yeah things like that like the likelihood of you still being involved

04:36:26.760 with somebody and you slept with them a week ago versus you have been celibate for six months

04:36:32.280 a year uh i think that's what body count is pointing to though oh and then i also had i had another

04:36:39.960 revelation there's body count but hear me out fellas chat chat i want you guys to weigh in on this

04:36:49.000 there's quality body quality count maybe not count i need to find a good name for this but there's the

04:36:56.760 body count

04:37:00.520 qualifier i don't know so okay here's the example i'll give

04:37:05.400 a girl has sex with 10 good dudes 10 men 10 good dudes and those dudes let's say they're just

04:37:12.520 virgins she somehow she fucked like 10 virgin guys or she fucked one scumbag

04:37:19.960 fucking ugh you know like she fucked one dude that's just a fucking dirt bag and you know he's

04:37:27.560 a fucking dirt bag and you know i think that's the 10 men theory i think that's what you should call it

04:37:33.160 i don't know 10 men theory um if they're like just disgusting you mean like like like a health hazard

04:37:39.960 like i'm trying to think like if she had sex with i'm trying to think of like a famous person

04:37:45.080 like uh flavor flavor pete davidson yeah pete davidson or like she

04:37:50.840 fucked sorry flave um like lil xan magic johnson well he's got hiv right or does or he's clear now

04:38:00.360 though right i mean if they're like the male equivalent of a slut and they're disgusting but

04:38:03.800 but chat do you know what i mean like like it offsets like even if her body count is lower

04:38:10.520 but she fucked a dirty dude that's like 10 bodies right she's gross i mean like the 10

04:38:18.680 make it worse a little like i'm not saying that like

04:38:23.480 you know what i mean like what are we talking about though like does he have like

04:38:27.240 barnacles at that point that becomes kind of like

04:38:33.320 it's more of a judgment of her judgment

04:38:35.080 and also when the guys like could be you know what i mean could be i think it might be beyond

04:38:41.160 that it's almost like you you dangerous you judge you're then judging her discernment it's more than

04:38:48.440 just the activity you're judging her judgment right at that 100 that makes sense you're saying like oh

04:38:53.640 i'm you know you choose me but you chose that person am i on the same shelf as that person it goes

04:38:59.720 both ways though for sure it goes both ways to some extent but the the question of

04:39:04.920 social body count is definitely uh different in value for the two and the reason is that women

04:39:11.240 are the gatekeepers of sex so there i hate to reduce it to this but there is an economic aspect

04:39:16.360 to women's uh chastity and virtue and their virginity and biological yeah because it's less

04:39:22.680 put on men that's just how it is because men aren't the gatekeepers you got you ladies are the gatekeepers

04:39:29.480 so you actually in a way determine absent being part of a culture that just says no we're

04:39:34.760 gonna by force take your bodies well you know if that wasn't the culture right um you get to

04:39:42.280 determine that the problem is i keep coming back to feminism is that you've been sold this shitty deal

04:39:48.920 that tells you to use the basically the main leverage tool that you have and just throwing

04:39:55.080 it away and just be like have it for free yeah have it free it's liberating it's awesome no

04:40:00.360 terrible mistake that messed up that messed up so many things in our traditional structure because

04:40:05.560 the men are out there trying to seek good women even if they had a string of uh you know sexual

04:40:11.720 encounters with not so good women they're still looking for the good one yes and then the problem is

04:40:18.360 if the woman in her liberation racks up 30 plus bodies what is a good woman anymore like it goes both

04:40:27.080 ways and so it's not a great situation i think the best thing the most empowering in which the other

04:40:33.000 girl was here the most empowering thing a woman could do is hold on to her virginity and if she was

04:40:39.560 smart she would leverage it for a good man yeah yeah you're not wrong a couple people in the chat don't like

04:40:48.200 my whole uh handwriting well that too but i the body count quality qualifier maybe i gotta think of

04:40:56.680 something better but like here i'll give you an example so i would almost rather a girl have an

04:41:03.960 additional three bodies but they're like good dudes versus she slept with like takashi 69 yeah you know what

04:41:12.680 i mean like like a resume or like like nle choppa yeah if a girl slept with nle i don't know who that

04:41:20.760 is choppa whatever some rando okay he's a rapper he's a rapper this guy fucks a bunch of chicks right

04:41:29.080 awesome i'm like i'd almost rather her have slept with more men that are good men that's i know that

04:41:37.000 sounds weird yeah it's like a resume but it's like the quality of the dude they're fucking with

04:41:41.320 sure because then you feel like a scumbag or you just feel dirty i feel dirty by extension by proxy

04:41:48.600 by proxy wait brian are you saying it's also one night stand with the so-called good men because i

04:41:53.640 would think those people are still kind of gross like it sounds like when you say good men from my

04:41:58.840 perspective it's like they were in a relationship they got to know each other like unfortunately that's

04:42:04.280 the standard we're working with but are you saying one night stand with the good the good hearted you

04:42:10.360 know they're a bunch of mormons like the chick is just like well they're all mormon you're like yes

04:42:15.400 so even in that scenario so i like there's a bunch of ways you can paint the scenario like okay she's got

04:42:20.920 uh she's had sex with three guys but they were all in a relationship versus like

04:42:24.680 she had she's like friends with benefits with some like rapper who does drugs and has

04:42:29.880 fucked fucked a bunch of chicks or whatever uh i would say that even though in the scenario you

04:42:36.440 presented oh man the the one body but the dude's a dirt bag still still i think that's kind of worse

04:42:45.720 yeah well in the back of your mind you're thinking stds too you're like yeah that's why it's a health

04:42:50.440 hazard yeah that's why i think that's the most important thing and then that is revealing about

04:42:54.680 the person because that how are you treating yourself that aren't that you're that aren't

04:42:59.800 tested and like that doesn't make any sense to me i mean people do the possibility when you when

04:43:05.480 people sleep with people they're scumbags but are you asking them about their like no well scumbags

04:43:11.160 with their std stuff because i do that so maybe just be smarter i'm sorry you do what you do i ask

04:43:18.200 people about their std like testings and stuff like that and like i mean people lie most people

04:43:24.120 don't do that in the casual section are you asking them to show you it because i do you know how do you

04:43:30.280 really know yeah but like i said just ask them to show you it what do you mean how do you know show

04:43:36.040 me the proof yeah i know but sometimes like some of these stds can take a long time that person like

04:43:40.680 be smarter like do you want stds like actually use your brain i'm sorry that's exactly that was

04:43:49.560 cool um happen no because like people like don't actually take that seriously and it's dumb as hell

04:43:55.320 that you're going to come on here and just say like oh oh this on the other and it's like

04:44:00.520 no like actually take it seriously if you're going to sit here and say that you're taking it seriously

04:44:05.320 are you asking people to show you they're testing then don't talk about them like that's

04:44:10.520 crazy if you're going to sit here and just start fucking people and not ask them like that's crazy

04:44:15.960 the problem is people lie unless i guess then ask them to show you what's the problem with that do you

04:44:20.920 have like it's like it's like if you if a man comes up to you or a boy or whatever and he's like

04:44:26.120 he looks like he's 19 but he's not fucking 19 he's like 17. yeah okay ask him for an id sure std

04:44:33.320 tests i feel like they're not as common sense honestly as ids so it's like it is yeah so you wouldn't

04:44:39.560 fuck someone if they don't have a std bro just to be clear you think like rappers are getting

04:44:45.800 like the are providing std tests so like that's why you think that they're dirty because they're

04:44:52.040 not going out and actually taking care of their actual sexual uh bodies you know what i mean like

04:44:57.320 they're just going out here and like just giving it all not giving a fuck whether they're bringing

04:45:01.320 stuff in and like giving it to other people what what are we arguing about i'm just not i don't

04:45:05.560 know what are we because i just feel like it's just so stupid to sit here and be like

04:45:11.880 i feel like it's stupid that people would just sit here and say like but what if they're not

04:45:15.960 like stds and all this then ask people to show you that and if you're not going to go and get

04:45:21.880 like if you're not going to ask them just don't them if that is a problem to you like i don't

04:45:27.640 understand how you guys are sitting here and acting like you disagree with me like go out there

04:45:31.480 and have that cd's all you want we actually no we we actually do we actually do we're talking

04:45:36.440 about we actually do agree with you yeah i don't know if we're we're actually talking about the

04:45:40.280 judgment that we have for a part a partner who brian's scenario was sleeps with the rapper who

04:45:49.000 doesn't give a shit about any of it right don't fuck him like that's the whole thing

04:45:53.080 if you know a girl that fucked him don't fuck like i don't understand what the problem is we

04:45:59.080 agree with you yes we're talking about whether that that judgment is valid of those people yeah

04:46:05.000 if there's a high body count you're just in the back of your mind that's what i said in the back

04:46:08.760 of your mind you're going to have that that thought and it's going to make you feel weird i'm look all

04:46:13.000 i'm saying is that when it comes to the body count question if a girl has a dirty dude

04:46:18.920 a dirty dude that's like not every body can body is equal yeah not every body number body count is

04:46:30.200 going to be equal oh that's that's fair so like there's another component now i think even if they're

04:46:36.200 all good dudes but she's got a high body count i'm there's still going to be a judgment there but

04:46:40.200 what i'm saying is there's an additional qualifier on top where it's like oh her body count is this and

04:46:46.600 she's fucked a bunch of rappers and she's fucked a bunch of like scumbag dirtbag fucking drug whatever

04:46:52.280 it is she fucked she's fucked dealt with dirty dudes that's like an additional uh like disqualifiers

04:47:01.560 it's dirty it's just yeah dirty birdie yeah okay and then you have to check your own hygiene you're

04:47:07.480 like am i dirty you guess is this like a type wait question oh well i think that there's a lot of men

04:47:13.640 out there that don't like to admit that they get prostitutes and stuff like that so i mean oh i

04:47:19.080 love this no no this is great so i think this can go both ways though so as a woman would you be

04:47:24.840 turned off by a guy who fucked prostitutes i don't care 100 okay well a lot of girls uh let's say a guy

04:47:34.120 has been with uh like 10 girls i don't think probably for most women that's probably not like the end of

04:47:40.920 the world for them but if the woman finds out that those 10 women he's been with were all prostitutes

04:47:47.080 no if it's all prostitutes i'm like why are you out here just paying for sex like that's a different

04:47:53.080 question for me but it's kind of similar no like prostitutes are they're i don't they're kind of

04:47:59.000 dirty they're greasy they're dirty they be fucking they're greasy thousand thousand not

04:48:05.640 at all because like honestly people are out here calling just only fans models prostitutes so like

04:48:13.560 no i'm talking street i'm talking street that's different street walker yeah no for sure i'm

04:48:20.280 talking a 30 bj in the back of a 7-eleven that is definitely different yeah that's right yeah

04:48:29.240 and then that i think women would be grossed out by that a little bit like oh you just

04:48:34.120 fucked i think not just fuck let's but like for me personally if a man came to me and was like

04:48:40.920 this happened in my past that i had sex with a prostitute i'm like okay just show me that you're

04:48:47.080 clean and that's where i can go from there here's a real question for men and women is it ideal or even

04:48:55.880 preferred i'm not saying it's realistic i'm just asking if it's ideal or preferred that you that your

04:49:03.560 partner has no other sexual partners and that's the same for them i don't care and all all else was

04:49:10.360 equal it was a great relationship you know there's potential to turn into a marriage and all of this

04:49:15.320 isn't it ideal when we're really thinking about it that it would just be a one-to-one

04:49:19.960 note that you had no other partners for sure because what is really gained for either way some

04:49:26.360 people i've heard even on the show try to argue well what's gained is you get to know what you like

04:49:31.240 well no that could be true for the person you're with oh oh you learned how to have sex properly

04:49:35.800 that could be true with the person you're that you're with so what is actually gained for men or

04:49:39.960 women um to be promiscuous i don't understand what the actual benefit is ultimately short-term

04:49:47.960 gratification yeah that's not it's just ego what's there just shallow and then especially when you're

04:49:54.440 young it's like if everybody else is doing it you just you feel weird you're like what's wrong with

04:49:59.000 yeah yeah you're like you're messed up you're the messed up one yeah yeah yeah i still haven't had

04:50:03.960 that that question answered because they always go to like practice they're like well i was practicing

04:50:09.240 i was doing this can you ask that again because i don't oh oh the question was um isn't it ideal

04:50:17.880 uh for two people a man and a woman who uh it seems they're they're in a relationship it seems to be

04:50:23.080 something promising isn't it ideal from both of their perspectives that they've only been with each

04:50:28.760 other sexually and the second question is what else would be gained by having multiple partners for

04:50:35.240 for either person i mean it just really just depends on that person's like and their relationship because

04:50:41.480 i know for me and myself like i don't care um i i have boo things like i said like i don't i'm not

04:50:49.640 here to have like an actual relationship so for me to like sit here and have a situation ship i'm not

04:50:56.840 going to sit here and demand you to only be with me like that's something that you're going to have

04:51:01.960 to make your decision on if you're going to make this just inclusive for yourself or whatever but

04:51:07.960 also i also don't expect you to think like no it's for it's for people the hypotheticals for people who

04:51:14.440 want to be with each other who want a relationship who want to potentially get married and if i wanted a

04:51:19.640 relationship yeah then it's just us but i don't think i would care about their body count regardless

04:51:24.440 well you might not care but if you could have a choice and now you're in the ether or hot seat

04:51:28.920 is if you had the answer no they had no previous sexual partners or or they had many i would prefer

04:51:37.560 that they have sexual partners you would choose that they had a yeah because like if you're going

04:51:41.400 to look at other like i know that you're going to look at other people so like why not just like go

04:51:46.440 out have the fun that you want to and if you're going to come back or whatever like that doesn't bother

04:51:52.360 me no yeah i just don't understand what that adds though like what's the value of that it's

04:51:56.600 it's like just for me it's just not a problem it's not like a value or whatever i don't really

04:52:02.600 see sex as like a valuable thing for me personally i just do it just because other people like it but

04:52:09.480 like that's really it you know value there's no value in sex no not for me okay i value people for

04:52:18.280 how they are how they are and how they treat me but that's it

04:52:25.640 i think at the younger age you could say that people would do that to figure out their type

04:52:37.480 yeah someone tries to say that yeah um but in in some point you you know but you already know yeah

04:52:44.600 but even that you could find you can find your type without having sex too right if you know your

04:52:51.080 body enough you yeah it's it's not hard to figure out if that energy would work with you yeah because

04:52:59.160 if if you get to it's it's the energy yeah yeah i'm saying that's a yeah i'm saying that you would

04:53:04.520 you still wouldn't need to have sex to find your type in fact uh if you got to know someone to the

04:53:10.920 point where you would be willing to have sex with them you've already decided yeah without

04:53:15.160 having sex with them so yeah you know all you're really adding to the equation is doing something

04:53:20.200 that you really want to do that's actually not necessary to do uh but just both people want to do

04:53:26.600 it and that i think this is why we're in such a predicament here is that people are having all sorts of

04:53:32.760 sex and they're able to avoid the consequence which is a birth and they're able to avoid another uh

04:53:39.720 otherwise required uh thing which is trust so you know the again it goes back to the women

04:53:47.800 giving this away to men and calling it liberation where they're what you're saying is like that's

04:53:53.960 never built up like where you actually earn it you know that you earn yeah these next phases of your

04:53:59.800 of your uh intimacy there's no earning anymore no you know at all a big problem yeah and in my opinion

04:54:09.720 uh okay we're guys we're gonna do a twenty dollar let's just uh we'll go ahead and just leave this

04:54:14.360 up twenty dollar tts guys we're gonna go into the roast session here then we're gonna get uh wrapped

04:54:19.480 up pretty soon so uh twenty dollar tts roast there's a lot of there's a lot of subject material here for

04:54:29.080 roasting if you want you can roast me you can wrote felicity needs a bit of a roast she got a little

04:54:33.720 look at the shirt are you kidding me yeah look at that shirt oh my god unbelievable tiffany needs a

04:54:39.560 big roast the the one percenter over here tiffany the one percenter she needs to be

04:54:46.440 she's asking for it she's asking for it um

04:54:51.080 yeah why did you look at me i'm easily roastable i get it

04:54:57.480 uh bunny rabbit guys can you if you can though thank you for the super chat try to send it through

04:55:01.640 stream labs it's just a bit easier for us people don't lie if they show you i get regular checkups

04:55:05.720 my results are on an app also don't date men or women you know f a lot of people just like you say

04:55:11.000 about women don't do it unless you make sure show me the that vag facts that's a great idea for a

04:55:17.720 business show me the car facts thank you for that bunny rabbit appreciate it yeah man that's crazy

04:55:25.560 but the vag facts big of true big labia matter that's all i'll only date a girl with i don't date

04:55:33.720 these any chicks you know that's the foundation is good just kidding i i'll i'll date a girl with an

04:55:40.120 any i wonder if like that throws off though like if a girl watches the show and they're like oh he has

04:55:46.840 a thing for like outies and then like she's insecure the entire relationship if she has an any

04:55:53.000 it could probably happen probably you know it's like imagine like if a girl i could that probably

04:55:58.360 happens to men oh for sure like the girl's like oh my ex bro he's ruined he's done for yeah you say

04:56:08.840 you tell a guy like that your ex had a huge peen it's over why would you yeah that's that's a terrible

04:56:15.160 thing to say it's fucked up why would you do that then that's just a red flag i've not had that happen

04:56:19.480 to me but i it probably has happened see but wouldn't you okay we're gonna go down this really

04:56:26.440 quickly wouldn't you consider that somewhat mentally abusive to be like or emotionally abusive or

04:56:32.040 whatever to be like my ex is better than you constantly in the back of your mind you're like

04:56:37.400 oh i'm not good enough i'm gonna i gotta try to be better that definitely is abusive because that's

04:56:42.360 intentionally ruining somebody else's okay so look hold on dropping a bug in someone's mind

04:56:49.160 constantly it's just not fair what would you consider mental and emotional abuse brian i can

04:56:54.680 get that but like to say oh my ex had a bigger penis that's not necessarily abusive unless they're

04:57:01.560 saying it in a way to purposely hurt you like they'll be oh yeah it's way bigger my ex was way bigger

04:57:06.280 you know to hurt your feelings make you feel like bad like body shaming you i think yeah that's when

04:57:11.720 it can become abusive but to just flat out say if they ask yeah but is it abusive no no i think it's

04:57:18.760 just the pattern i think if it's a continuous deliberate pattern that's when it becomes abusive

04:57:22.600 yeah wait so so what sorry the question can you repeat the question what would you consider mental

04:57:27.480 abuse emotional abuse so the girlfriend is saying oh my ex was better in bed just yeah in general

04:57:35.720 like just a little i wouldn't categorize i think that's a terrible thing to say to somebody in a

04:57:40.200 relationship sure i would not categorize it as abuse you're a jerk you're an asshole they should dump

04:57:45.400 you i don't think it's abusive so what would you consider abusive and what i think about that really

04:57:50.920 quick is that if it's a one-off yeah that's shitty if it's a constant deliberate pattern that's

04:57:55.640 what sure i can i can agree with you if it's like bombardment yeah and yes if it's if they said it

04:58:02.280 one-off but like every time you fucked them and then they were like whoa you're really bad in bed

04:58:07.000 my ex was so so much better um that's abusive that is that is mentally emotionally abusive mentally

04:58:13.880 you're messing with somebody else constantly and that was your choice to be there sure i'll i'll grant

04:58:20.040 that if there's a pattern yes then then yes i think a one-off thing again terrible thing to say

04:58:27.240 i think just on that one thing that could be the that's breakup yeah that's a breakup yeah but i

04:58:33.640 don't i think people can do breakup worthy things that are not abusive sure i agree aren't there dudes

04:58:40.520 who like demand that they're the woman tell them i like that they're better than their ex or oh like

04:58:46.920 yeah like degradation or so is that their scumbag what if if they ask for it if they demand that

04:58:53.800 but no no but the the thing is it's like all of the the shame and the ridicule is still there

04:59:01.640 it's not like it's not it's not the same thing it's like what happened with me when i was talking

04:59:05.720 about the death by a thousand cuts earlier is like it ultimately was my responsibility you know

04:59:10.360 what i'm saying like if they're prone to like it it sounds like it's only abuse if you just don't

04:59:16.760 like what they're doing but the same exact behavior for someone who likes the terrible feeling sure it's not

04:59:23.640 abuse no it's not it's ultimately their responsibility and if it bothers them eventually

04:59:27.320 then that's their problem i don't think that that's abuse because they're asking for it if

04:59:31.400 anything you're doing them a favor leave this one up for example if two bullies are in a relationship

04:59:36.040 with each other they beckon for doing it to each other so it doesn't hurt either of them because

04:59:40.680 that's their game and if yeah but if this is not wait can you just leave your drink there just stop

04:59:46.360 playing if that's not the dynamic for for the person who's actually taking a person and it's getting

04:59:51.720 hit by it that becomes an abuse yeah that's how you can basically look at it all right guys 20 tts

04:59:58.600 row session we have andre uh canadian 20 felicity looks like she's being held against her will

05:00:03.160 chair four and five are based uh what are your x handles chair one trust me bro i can fix her

05:00:08.840 bro she's got a 39 year old

05:00:13.720 giant bbc boyfriend i think he's talking about her like he can fix her

05:00:17.000 oh but if you if that's what you meant i hope you make 500 bands boom sweet you know what this

05:00:25.000 the whole like the conversation though around abuse reminds me of did you hear about this whole harry

05:00:29.960 sisson thing where he was like he was like uh texting 10 different chicks or or something and

05:00:36.840 they i think it's kind of a jerk maybe he's a bit of a jerk maybe he's a bit of an asshole but

05:00:42.840 these women are like wow you we're victims and uh it's abusive i'm like no he's just he's a jerk

05:00:50.280 he's an asshole he's a fuck boy it's famous you guys got you guys got played but it's not like

05:00:56.760 it's not abusive okay he's like got a roster

05:01:03.400 and even if he lied about it i don't think that's abusive if he was like in a relationship with all of

05:01:09.400 them and he was like yeah you're you're the one i don't think that's different no then it's not

05:01:13.320 abusive he's just a player don't chicks have rosters now that's like their power move they're

05:01:17.800 like i have rosters oh yeah most of these girls are dana you elaborate on that what is like they

05:01:22.600 have a roster they have like a list of dudes they can call and put into the game so to speak and that's

05:01:28.520 like they they're managing now like they're they're the team owner and it's it's like that just works

05:01:34.520 against the women especially it actually works against the women more so than it works against

05:01:39.240 the men yeah we're at the tail end of the decade you are for sure now we're because we're entering

05:01:44.120 the dark ages again yeah never forget you're the gate gatekeepers of the gene yeah oh uh going

05:01:50.920 around the table what's your body count

05:01:53.400 11. i think so 15. 15 or 15. yeah 15. 12. um four four okay zero two i'm not saying neither am i

05:02:13.560 of course not the patriarchy wins again of course not the men that's what i'm saying what what what are

05:02:19.240 you saying it's like bullshit okay i understand if a dirty dude like that's different but it's like

05:02:27.640 if you're if you're gonna demand that not demand but if you're gonna ask somebody that question

05:02:32.360 it's like and then they ask you and it's like i don't want to tell you it's like kind of you didn't

05:02:36.760 have to tell us yeah well yeah i did earlier like no you have to would have forced it and which is fine

05:02:44.360 and i know what i signed up for i'm just saying that there's just a well here's a kind of a thing

05:02:49.880 this doesn't apply the same to each of us but i think that once you're uh married and you've been

05:02:55.240 married for a while like talking about that stuff is just like is nonsensical yeah i mean i can see

05:03:02.040 that for you yeah it's just kind of like yeah it's clearly a double standard well there's girls that

05:03:08.920 come in here all the time they say i don't want to answer that sure you can just say i don't want to

05:03:14.040 answer if you if you really don't oh there's a little pushback but okay i suppose i'm just saying

05:03:19.160 they harassed that girl until she left that's not a little pushback that was different though

05:03:25.960 i don't think so it was happening for a while way before that question even came up

05:03:32.760 good shit good times that's cool here uh all right uh we have uh wait what

05:03:40.680 eric prayers for the wilson family wjb shout out the boys it made by jim bob youtube channel jay

05:03:47.800 dyer next on whatever god bless i've heard of jay dyer uh yeah he's awesome yeah thank you eric for

05:03:53.080 the soup chat wait prayers for is everything okay with well they had a tornado and then uh i know um

05:04:00.600 rachel's had some oh yeah rachel's been having some health stuff so uh

05:04:05.320 uh shit okay there's a tornado damn there was there was yeah 15 bodies but how many trees

05:04:13.080 just one tree only one tree nice that's cool uh so guys 20 tts roast session get them in that's

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05:05:45.640 appreciate it cal thank you for the prime man appreciate it cajun tater thank you for the prime thank you

05:05:50.440 thank you appreciate it guys all right we have justin martins yo is my stream labs not working

05:05:55.320 or something um why does jim bob always look like he just woke up fully clothed that's exactly what

05:06:02.600 what's happening that's why is my stream labs not working because this is kind of peculiar i mean maybe

05:06:08.200 you guys just don't want nobody's roast worthy i should you know i don't know let me see is it

05:06:13.800 bugged boys i think it's but hey can somebody like test out a roasted like somebody test out uh

05:06:19.800 like stream labs or whatever man because it's like bugged or whatever twenty dollar tts boys

05:06:27.000 okay thank you man six pack chad thank you for that jamaican at the end okay thank you man

05:06:32.040 thank you man thank you man it's canadian it's like irish that was british like canadian a

05:06:37.560 all right guys 20 bro i think our stream labs is bugged this is crazy uh okay well what else do i

05:06:43.880 have uh so you've been single for six months you said yes longest relationship uh longest relationship

05:06:50.840 oh that was it oh 10 10 years from from what age to what can you stop playing with the cup please

05:06:57.000 i'm just gonna put this over here yeah that's a good idea uh 10 years you say from what age to like

05:07:03.160 18 to or no nine uh six months ago is when it ended oh shit who dumped you just walk it me damn

05:07:09.720 wait this is the abusive guy wait the abuse now everything changes you were in that relationship

05:07:15.080 for 10 years she stayed for 10. it wasn't bad at first think of all the soundcloud rappers

05:07:21.880 you could have had sex with wait did he become abusive and in the last five three yeah it just

05:07:30.280 slowly started happening it was just like he just got more comfortable with it or i just started

05:07:34.200 noticing it more because you know at the end of the day it's just like yeah i suck you know whatever

05:07:39.080 like yeah i could do that better but like yeah i suck you know kind of a thing and then it just gets

05:07:43.720 worse and worse to the point where like it's just like okay i don't know i uh actually i don't know

05:07:52.440 it's just like with people like that i don't even know i'm just rambling i actually ended up

05:07:57.880 breaking up with him so we never did couples therapy but i was like let's go and then i broke

05:08:03.000 up with him in couples therapy because if i didn't do that if there wasn't like a third party there

05:08:08.760 like it would just go on and on forever and i'd just be a piece of shit so if you have a third party

05:08:13.240 there that's another piece of advice a lot of the times i'll just accept it and you know in therapy i

05:08:18.760 asked i was like if there's anything i did wrong like i want to talk about it i want to know what i did

05:08:22.600 wrong had nothing to say and like that just sounds like i'm blowing smoke up my own ass but it's true

05:08:28.760 like nothing to say i mean he said you were in the way so yeah like you know things like that but i am

05:08:36.040 burly so uh wait so is it confirmed that the stream labs is not working because chat is stream i mean some

05:08:46.920 people are saying stream uh stream labs is bugged uh just do it through super chats guys we'll just

05:08:51.960 do super chats then uh if if stream labs is actually bugged just send it in through uh

05:08:57.080 super chat youtube super chat last one for tonight brian i bet you're a terrible poker player all i can

05:09:01.720 see is your reactions to whatever's on your screen while everyone is talking can i get an

05:09:05.160 host i don't tabernak tabernak tabernak i don't i'm not sure what that is but thank you man appreciate

05:09:17.720 it thank you for that okay guys twenty dollar t apparently guys the stream labs is busted i'm not

05:09:24.200 sure why um trying to figure out what could be left works for stream labs could i think that's what

05:09:31.400 happened it's y2k that is super weird let me see what's going on here guys one sec no that's still

05:09:39.480 enabled uh i'm gonna check one other thing but uh so have you had a rebound is that too soon no no i

05:09:54.840 think that's kind of like i want to just like use somebody and i also don't why not you should totally

05:10:00.600 get on some strange i should have been the predecessor to all this degeneracy you're right

05:10:07.400 wait what i said i should have been the predecessor to all this uh degeneracy and just

05:10:12.040 sort of just like i could get a rebound for that and then i could get a rebound for that rebound

05:10:16.360 and it just never ends yes the the uh rebound inception kind of yeah there's got to be something

05:10:23.160 catchier though the domino effect of the rebound

05:10:30.520 do you think he's like just plowing through like do you think he's just running through

05:10:35.240 where you where do you where are you from uh new york do you think he's just plowing through some

05:10:40.040 fucking brooklyn some fucking queens chicks oh no he lives here and also oh he lives in california

05:10:46.440 oh i'm in california um north carolina where i actually live i'm not used to wait was this a

05:10:52.440 long distance relationship no no we both lived in the same apartment in north carolina oh but i

05:10:56.920 just forgot where i was he dipped and that now he's living in dip i broke up with him well but he

05:11:03.080 dipped from north carolina no he didn't so he's still in north carolina yes so is he getting some

05:11:08.440 what's the city charlotte greensboro charlotte charlotte just i only know those two just running

05:11:16.280 through some some uh unc checks you think i don't really care i feel nothing like i grieved the

05:11:25.080 relationship before i left basically because i worked on myself and by the end of it i was like

05:11:29.400 this i don't deserve this yeah so honestly if you could do whatever you want have you ever considered

05:11:34.840 having a glow up what do you mean i don't know you have to choose between their standards but

05:11:42.280 what do you i don't know like doing a whole like makeup thing like i just like where did that even

05:11:46.840 come from i felt i was like i'm so confident what happens is when you know when women act men do this

05:11:52.840 too like they'll suddenly break up and get super fit and ripped sure like your reaction is you know

05:12:00.760 like not to like you know get all prettied up and stuff you know why is that what is it no i'm just

05:12:06.760 kidding no makeup and yeah yeah i mean i lost a lot of weight i did start yeah i started taking care of

05:12:12.200 myself and i focused on myself which i never did because i was constantly focused on him and how i

05:12:17.560 can be a better person in general i love that for him yeah so for you anyway then i started focusing on

05:12:24.760 myself and it was great and it still is so no rebound i mean i for women like you said you're

05:12:33.960 a comedian i know you're just like kind of playing around but yeah you don't want to look like a female

05:12:39.000 comedian also no i don't yeah you don't want two of those things so no you're right yeah that's why i

05:12:47.000 lost weight yeah you're gonna have to start getting dolled up it's just part of the game well okay the

05:12:51.640 reason i didn't do anything is because i was on a plane in north like it took me forever to get

05:12:57.560 here i'm not gonna like no not now i'm saying like in you know to attract future men eventually

05:13:03.480 your husband basically i mean i do get dolled up oh good i've just been on an airplane oh no yeah

05:13:09.000 no worries like seven hours yeah so i'm just saying in general yeah saying now wait do you have

05:13:14.040 no i have a twitter no i have a throw away twitter yeah i have a throw away but you said you

05:13:21.480 have fans like from where like what's your plan do you have a platform um i have instagram and

05:13:28.840 shit there's people like i feel like you're not telling us something because i don't know

05:13:40.920 i don't know it's not like super top secret i just don't know how to explain it without sounding like

05:13:45.480 i don't know you have a cult well if you want to yeah if you want to find a man you got me the

05:13:49.560 worst possible thing you can do as a woman is try to be a comedian i just like me making people laugh

05:13:56.680 i'm like the joker yeah is that what he says is he like making people laugh i'm just you're proving

05:14:02.120 your point you're proving my point what it's my bad what it's first time you want to be a mother

05:14:09.720 in my head yes okay that should be your priority yeah i don't give a like i don't i'm not this is

05:14:15.640 not my destiny or my fate i just oh that's funny why in my opinion wait do you have a set

05:14:22.120 i didn't have a question i don't i said i'm a comedian it's hyperbolic she doesn't oh i don't have

05:14:28.040 wait do you do stand-up or no no i wait what we didn't understand your cryptic multiple references

05:14:34.440 yeah you should have read my mind this is what i'm talking about yeah yeah but wait where where's

05:14:38.280 your platform what's happening i don't have i'm not a comedian i have an instagram yeah but you have

05:14:43.560 like 600 followers yeah i don't have that's why she said i'm an underground oh you're just being like

05:14:49.320 was that a joke yeah i'm just being stupid she's just a silly girl i thought you had like a yeah i'm

05:14:54.520 just a silly girl i thought you had like an audience or something like even if it's small like but

05:14:59.320 maybe it's like my audience is like truth social truth social i don't know are you a republican or

05:15:04.600 what's your pull it i thought you actually were a comedian you actually look like the type who

05:15:08.840 suddenly brings out a ukulele and it's like a cute song and you're like hi i don't like that

05:15:14.120 talk to a sloth today you don't like ukuleles i don't like being associated with ukuleles

05:15:21.080 that's not good what about banjos that's actually i agree with that a little bit better ukuleles are

05:15:26.760 pretty yeah like it used to be cool there was like a moment there where they had like this corny

05:15:33.160 a place and then yeah it's true like the type of people who pick up a ukulele it's just yeah you

05:15:38.920 just don't know just run yeah yeah you just don't know who you are yet no commitment unless you're

05:15:43.000 hawaiian that's fine but if you're making fucking cover songs on youtube yeah with the ukulele cringe

05:15:49.240 yeah all right boys you got to do it through super chat i don't know what's going on with streamlabs

05:15:52.920 jim bob fight chair one the shoulders are similar damn it see what's wrong with your shoulders well

05:15:58.840 on my channel they started this meme where i have really narrow shoulders and then i started

05:16:03.160 believing it a lot and then it sent me to the gym which proves that shame works

05:16:10.840 so nice i think i just have a giant head that's it's not actually totally narrow shoulders what do

05:16:18.680 you guys think getting body dysmorphia now i think i guess normal shoulders giant head

05:16:24.440 something like that small like a caricature yeah yeah i'm just you know what i'm gonna have uh sammy

05:16:29.560 you're in charge of reading these okay oh okay into the mic if you can chair two metal detectors must

05:16:36.920 hate you huh what's it like going through the airport security with you

05:16:40.680 am i supposed to answer that i don't know if you could or not fine

05:16:53.160 i'm not sure what else to say have you been on a airplane or yeah of course do they have do you have

05:17:00.680 to take out all the piercings or they just the last time i went on the airplane the only reason why

05:17:07.480 they kicked like they had to like basically strip me down and like you know do like the metal detector

05:17:15.080 thing or whatever it's because i had a stone underneath my wig why oh like this stone energy

05:17:23.560 thing yeah yeah they were like uh what's underneath there and i was like girl i forgot it was there

05:17:31.240 that's awesome that's so awesome you're like what's under this wig it's just a rock you're like i forgot

05:17:36.760 chair three socials chair three socials i need new comedy what is truth social what is that

05:17:44.120 no they're actually never mind okay sorry what's your instagram oh andrew's beer no they actually

05:17:50.440 have good beer here andrew drinks shit beer i wasn't listening to course andrew's a coors guy

05:17:55.880 it's just f dot u dot c dot k sweet uh read this one chat is starting the hashtag tree to

05:18:03.240 leave me yo thank you cat for the soup chat appreciate it tree too

05:18:10.360 yeah it's not no i'm not he they don't have his beer here i'm telling you i read it

05:18:14.920 jim bob andrew will literally fight you if you're drinking his beer

05:18:21.400 sweet okay uh go ahead shout out to charlotte north carolina we have plenty of mid chicks here

05:18:27.160 don't worry he's just running through yeah does that how does that make you feel what never mind

05:18:32.040 who okay read this one bear or man highlights delusion or prejudice with a woman it's a bear's

05:18:38.600 nature to kill you it's a man's nature to protect you i recommend you remind them of this after they

05:18:43.880 answer the question to test their logic again i mean it depends that the bear could be

05:18:49.800 pretty nice tiffany read this one true

05:18:53.800 alien sugar maples said he gave you all his branches for dp yet you're still ghosting him

05:18:58.840 personally i don't think i could eat pancakes with syrup again disgusting thank you christopher

05:19:07.240 oh tiffany can you read this yeah the test of a woman is childbirth the test of a man is a woman

05:19:12.520 a man must be in control of himself and his woman but a woman cannot be controlled like

05:19:17.080 like a man controls another man it's more like controlling a nervous dog

05:19:20.840 hmm thank you for that honest a-hole i appreciate it okay uh tyree santiago thank you

05:19:30.120 to charity all it takes is a giant magnet and your face is done i have a magnet in here if you want to

05:19:36.440 okay if you want to do you it's not going to do anything so are they mag are piercings magnetic no

05:19:43.160 is it pewter or steel what what what is it pewter and steel it's just uh sterling silver sterling yeah

05:19:51.560 but it's not yeah sterling's not magnetized or whatever all right read this one chair three's

05:19:56.760 textbook definition of adorable my favorite minecraft biome is taiga i'd appreciate you forever if you

05:20:03.800 organize my chess room and charity reminds me of the song monster by reckless love that's what's up

05:20:09.400 oh there you go sounds like a potential for you so yeah tiffany tiffany's nickname after her glow up

05:20:17.640 will be toothpick tiffany the fuck oh i take that as a compliment i will say that a dorkable is

05:20:24.120 definitely a ukulele thing that is yeah wow i'm a little on the fence about that yo seth thank you for

05:20:29.320 the 20 super chat appreciate it man thank you thank you guys reminder uh we're doing 20 super chat roast

05:20:36.200 session so uh if you want get it in it's through youtube unfortunately i don't know why stream labs

05:20:42.360 isn't working so yeah uh read this one tiffany jim bob w black bears are 13 of the population but commit

05:20:51.000 50 of all attacks girl that rage quit needs to buy a burka chair one toll status chair two know where

05:20:57.720 it's necessary chair three looks like a feminist lesbian joe dirt are you are you a feminist no i

05:21:04.920 actually thought you were i did judge you when you walked in i was like finally the hardcore

05:21:09.880 feminist comes in i gave myself a really shitty haircut um i get i didn't yeah i thought you

05:21:15.080 fucking hate it i thought one of you tonight was gonna say end the patriarchy and nobody said it

05:21:21.080 no is there anybody i'm right way still no nobody but yeah i felt unbelievable

05:21:26.760 t-dog five is kind of creepy is that me yeah that's why am i creepy

05:21:30.840 justin martins why is she creepy why you bro are you talking shit about tiffany dude

05:21:37.960 are you too maybe i was a creep yo

05:21:41.880 are you talking fucking shit about tiffany justin yeah we will both mash you what

05:21:46.920 me and tiffany bro we rep the same

05:21:51.000 podcast all right thank you justin martins oh my god there's so many coming in they are crazy okay uh

05:21:57.320 read this one tiff t-dog you should smile smile more sammy but i wouldn't be able to

05:22:03.720 able to around them either however when are you going to be open that black back door

05:22:10.680 lmao jk wow that's her arm um if you're talking about what i think you're talking about i don't

05:22:16.680 think i'll ever do that kind of content i'm sorry guys i just don't do that weird shit for real

05:22:21.080 wait is this do you think the first part though is do you think it's because she's

05:22:28.440 i don't know a lot of my people a lot of my people say i need to smile dude i don't know if it's

05:22:32.840 the old man white toothpick thing but i think it's just something they tell me yeah the second part

05:22:37.880 i don't understand i wouldn't want to be around them either yeah i'm not sure about

05:22:42.520 the fear too it's hard to take you seriously when you have a single ball

05:22:47.480 newton's pendulum swinging from your nose not to mention the other sharp sharp nail on your face

05:22:55.080 shrapnel shrapnel i didn't know i asked all right thank you uh we have this one my wife asked me

05:23:04.040 why i don't help out with the dishes anymore i told her that it's illegal for men to compete in women's

05:23:08.840 sports that's supposed to be funny i like that one that's a good i like that one that's like a good

05:23:17.640 old-school joke that's a yeah where can we get that hot aloha shirt jb i heard you got it from

05:23:26.280 i got this coming soon at made by jim bob shop i do sell shirts at made by jim bob.com you bring me

05:23:33.240 books but no shirt but this is from kawaii directly vintage vintage vintage shirt from kawaii i just

05:23:38.760 couldn't resist jim bob bahama okay uh-huh huh so which of you chicks has the fake knockers uh-huh

05:23:47.640 oh that's funny uh from butthead shoutouts about any any fake titties at the table tiffany

05:23:55.960 are you gonna get some no you said you're getting plastic surgery just the nose job oh okay whatever

05:24:03.880 for sure oh show okay we have i have petitioned the court to modify the distance and on my restraining

05:24:12.120 order for the love of god i'm a tree not a sex object

05:24:17.960 yo oh this driftwood thank you for the soup chat man appreciate it do you want to respond to that alien

05:24:22.520 or no no no i'm good ali archer okay thank you for the compliment appreciate it uh

05:24:34.120 hey alien maybe jim bob could make your next face piece uh it's because i'm a jewelry maker

05:24:43.240 question for the panel what's your favorite crystal color crystal i like rose quartz is that

05:24:50.280 the one that's in front of you yeah yeah wow see i i i get i got you i know i appreciate that all

05:24:56.840 right thank you christopher we have uh this one tiffany i'll have you read it tiffany your nose is

05:25:03.960 fine don't chop it off brian love your show haven't missed one for about 18 months keep up the good

05:25:10.440 work thank you very much thank you very much tabernacle i don't know bro being cringe my bad

05:25:27.000 chair is your genuine question not trying to be mean how much weight have you gained since your

05:25:30.760 loss appearance it looks like you ate your way through some redwoods

05:25:39.720 i don't know hey tiffany i have a question for you yeah um so you're very pro being skinny yeah if

05:25:49.480 you could get rid of all fat people but or wait what's the trade-off here um

05:25:59.800 uh all fat this would include me because i'm a little chubby right now so i wouldn't consider

05:26:04.840 you fat though i mean i'm chubby wait wait bro don't i mean damn bro he's like looking at me

05:26:10.120 you guys are getting body dysmorphia tonight oh yeah what's the hypothetical

05:26:18.120 so wait question you're korean right yeah did your i feel like what from what i've heard from

05:26:24.600 uh people i've known who are asian but i've heard this from a korean girl she told me that

05:26:31.320 like korean parents if their kids fat will tell them they're fat like you're fat you gotta lose weight

05:26:37.080 is this true yeah yeah like white parents will be like oh my god you're stop it you're just so

05:26:44.520 beautiful the way you are oh they're brutal yeah i feel like asian parents are like gonna lay down

05:26:49.880 like they're brutal listen up you fucking failure yeah you gotta lose some fucking weight but i think

05:26:55.880 that's valid bro good they're brutal good and you you got on top of it yeah so did your mom call

05:27:04.760 you fat though no i was never fat oh okay i was always skinny i just want to be skinnier did she say

05:27:10.440 like you need to lose a couple pounds though did she say don't ever get fat did she say that like

05:27:17.400 don't ever get fat yeah like the threat of like don't ever no like a psa we have sarah here go ahead

05:27:25.000 read it somebody besides sarah that's tiffany brian if you're ever in nashville drinks on me

05:27:33.240 nice i'm never gonna be in nashville i'm sorry there's no reason for me to ever go to nashville

05:27:39.960 well there's that one street broadway the fuck is i think daily wire street there that's like a whole

05:27:46.440 door oh right what if they invite you don't you want to get ben shapiro on come on brian i mean

05:27:52.920 that'd be good for the show that'd be interesting i will definitely get on the i will definitely get

05:27:57.160 on the panel with all these hoes i mean are you that's pretty good that was too good

05:28:04.680 all right guys twenty dollar roast through the youtube super chats we're switching it up because

05:28:08.600 our stream labs is scuffed majorly scuffed l stream labs what the hell is going on can somebody test

05:28:14.760 it though again see if it's still not working because that's pretty frustrating um let's see

05:28:19.560 what else we have to do uh get them in if you want guys we're gonna get this wrapped up here soon

05:28:24.600 well um we did uh the body count we talked about that um what's everybody's orientation what is it

05:28:37.080 like pronouns tree sexual like are you is anybody here bi i'm bisexual

05:28:45.160 so some of your bodies are are women or you didn't count like when you said what 11 yeah i didn't

05:28:51.400 count was it 11 and i only had only body count was 11 i've only been with one girl and i did not

05:28:57.640 count her in that because we did not necessarily sleep together it was actually for of collab i had

05:29:03.400 mentioned her in our messages but okay um so not really all right magavelli says brian bring on alex

05:29:10.920 jones or sam hyde bring on kanye and hide would be funny he would fuck your shut up probably um

05:29:18.760 thank you magavelli for the soup chat appreciate it excuse me appreciate it thank you thank you guys

05:29:23.560 uh okay i guess fine sort of final call super chat send it in through youtube 20 super chat roast if you

05:29:29.880 want to roast anybody where's the felicity roast where's the priscilla priscilla where's the priscilla

05:29:36.120 i miss priscilla you know oh what is wait i i swear i had a good question

05:29:44.760 it's awesome i wanted to give felicity a freaking compliment actually you look like poppy to me

05:29:50.840 you're so pretty who's poppy oh she's a singer poppy oh wait you look just like her she's really

05:29:56.440 pretty or she's a singer she's like a rock singer don't worry about it have you ever seen camp rock

05:30:02.360 wow that's kind of honestly bro that's kind of an insult why are you talking shit to felicity

05:30:06.760 how was that an insult you're saying she looks like poppy i would literally get on my knees for

05:30:12.120 poppy so i don't know who poppy is i have to look at a picture you should look it up she's great

05:30:17.640 thank you she's great damn bro that's an insult i think that's a fucking insult she's gorgeous she's

05:30:22.680 a gorgeous woman that's an insult that's an insult to felicity i mean i'm not insulted i don't know

05:30:31.320 but you remind me of tess from also from uh camp rock do you want do you want to direct maybe a

05:30:37.480 couple compliments towards jim bob here because i feel like he's needs some compliments i have

05:30:43.080 compliments for like all the ladies i love you sure jim thank you i appreciate that your head is

05:30:48.120 proportionate to your shoulders oh my gosh i am clipping that that's forever let's replay it over

05:30:54.440 and over uh okay name taken says brian you're fatter and gayer than dsp not just kidding bro love you

05:31:00.840 love the who's dsp no idea another rapper or dsp it's like a water i'm fatter and gayer maybe it's

05:31:11.320 dolly parton and her middle name sarah or something what if i'm straighter than him

05:31:15.640 i could be straighter than them we're having a straight off all of a sudden wait no idea who that

05:31:22.120 is fat gay guy i'm trying to think of a fat gay dude why are you doing this bro okay thank you for

05:31:29.640 that oh they did from mean girl thank you uh is there anything else we had to do um tiffany what is the

05:31:36.760 oh i wanted to ask this what is of your like girl you know maybe you hurt you you were in high school

05:31:45.960 girl you know this is for the whole panel what's the highest body count you've heard from a girl

05:31:53.240 let's start with you sammy um the highest i've heard from a girl is about in the 50s and she was

05:31:58.920 my age and that was last year so i was 18 so she was 18 and she had 50 yeah damn okay what about you

05:32:05.720 alien there's someone you know right yeah yeah just confirm me right

05:32:16.120 because there's yes he said someone you know like a friend yeah yeah oh someone yeah like uh maybe you

05:32:20.760 went to school with them or oh okay i think about like 40 40 okay yeah i don't know if i've ever like

05:32:29.240 i don't know if anyone's ever bragged about that to me or you heard about like you were in high school

05:32:33.880 and some girl did the whole football team sure but i don't know i don't want to give you a fake

05:32:39.320 answer i just don't know okay that's fine what about you nothing tiffany i think around the 50s 50s

05:32:45.800 felicity you know some strumpets yeah she said like 65 or 70 somewhere around there how old is she

05:32:52.280 uh she was 29 at the time yeah oh tiffany just tilt your mic like uh actually wait tiffany wait

05:32:59.240 sorry felicity uh do you want to just take that seat that's probably it's probably easier to get

05:33:06.600 you in frame a little bit uh okay cool and we have wife wait what's up wi-fi andrew said you don't have

05:33:16.520 to replace the beer if you square up with snot chain is andrew streaming or i don't know

05:33:22.280 no i don't i don't think so maybe he was though uh okay we have christopher

05:33:33.560 brian california is a huge l move the stream to florida get with the program uh

05:33:39.240 i california is i feel like california is behind enemy lines like that's where you want to be

05:33:45.800 you know what what would be the alternative though if you were to choose like one state city

05:33:53.400 to do the alternative yeah oh well to do the show i would move it to los angeles la yeah it'd be way

05:33:58.600 easier to have like san barbara's out of the way two hours out of the way yeah uh la major hub

05:34:04.600 entertainment uh you know people are actors yeah whatever content creators are out there i could

05:34:10.680 probably i could probably do three shows a week uh well in terms of guest booking i would be able to

05:34:17.000 book for three shows a week uh it would be way easier but yeah what's stopping you from doing it

05:34:25.960 i want to live in la that's true that's the downside that's the downside

05:34:30.120 san barbara while being in while being in california san barbara's yeah is nice uh we did here i'm gonna

05:34:37.640 uh tiffany i'm gonna have you read this one brian burritos or do you miss wearing flannel more wow

05:34:44.920 that's a good i want to get back to the flannel so uh that would be nice uh this is below the threshold

05:34:51.080 but why not we'll do it can jim bob as bernie sanders ask the panel would you date me bernie for

05:34:57.480 one of my mansions look hold on look ladies would you want to date me if i had 50 billion dollars

05:35:07.640 you all deserve abortions the drudgery of listening to that guy it's like you it's like

05:35:12.920 arduous it's like hard uh this is for jim bob if you can read it tiffany jim bob when you shrug

05:35:18.600 them tiny shoulders does it inflate them years that's true felicity i'm gonna have you wait what

05:35:25.640 the i'm gonna okay good luck felicity on this one wow tiffany socials brian austie host what is this

05:35:34.920 poste di viage the viage du calice the cup cubit coast follow the election we about to become

05:35:42.600 china help follow okay andre thank you merci beaucoup my tiktok's real tiff x n y e i love that for you

05:35:54.840 uh read this one felicity chair three i will take you and i will take you in and fix you but if and

05:36:02.040 only if slip my mind was a kids in the hall reference

05:36:07.720 okay i don't think oh yeah kids in the hall no i love kids in the hall i mean it's been

05:36:11.240 years but that's their intro song is dope yeah

05:36:17.240 okay it's all coming back felicity read this one felicity can we see that maddie cap no simple

05:36:23.640 can i put it on no he's gotta you gotta send in a 69 super chat if you want to see felicity in the uh

05:36:32.360 in the this one uh want me to read it yeah top one percent needs to make more than 500k

05:36:40.600 it's at it's a at least one million in some areas you grew up hardly in top ten percent girl you need to

05:36:47.800 wake up to reality assy girl girl you need to wake up to reality thank you maize for the super chat

05:36:57.640 all right guys if you want 20 uh uh wait i was gonna wasn't i gonna ask a question or something

05:37:02.680 shit what was the question i asked earlier i think you asked if people were lesbians

05:37:07.160 i think that's something that was asked uh that was a good memory wait hold on i have in my notes

05:37:13.720 here one second let me get this orientation orientation orientation that's true asked about that

05:37:20.040 oh wait i have something hold on one sec one sec let's so it is

05:37:26.360 is um

05:37:32.200 shit damn it i think i can't find it that's unfortunate uh wait what

05:37:45.080 sorry guys one sec i'm trying to find i i wrote notes

05:37:49.800 floundering flood totally totally dropping the ball here well okay can't find it uh

05:37:56.520 go ahead uh tiffany read this one trump 2028 the tariffs will work give it time

05:38:02.920 our republic's our republic public is worth it america first chair three seems based but looks

05:38:08.840 like a lib i know it sucks it's my fucking hair my glasses who did you vote for i hate my hair

05:38:15.320 trump oh okay all right absolutely oh okay why is that weird oh hey look it's uh is this andrew yeah

05:38:23.000 that's andrew oh hey what's up what's up andrew you can do a uh you can do a shapiro versus peterson

05:38:30.360 debate but snot knows who's snot knows is that oh the snot yeah yeah i thought that um dirty trees

05:38:37.480 shapiro is pro okay wait so hold on so who's pro dirty with the trees shapiro's pro okay look as long

05:38:45.960 as it's not hurting anyone i don't see any problem with uh molesting the trees i mean they can't

05:38:50.840 consent that means they can't say no well that's really fucked up you know it's like it's not about

05:38:56.440 consent it's about whether or not there's a hole that's appropriate for your wiener wiener it's like

05:39:02.360 fuck jordan sounded like you forgot to do you forgot to do this yeah it's like you're going up there in

05:39:10.840 the woods molesting the trees in the bark well i don't see any problem with it i mean liberty above

05:39:16.440 all right yeah it's just the ben was amazing uh it's indistinguishable we gotta get jordan peterson

05:39:25.720 on the show please god you could i reached out i tried to get michaela on now you just got to keep

05:39:30.520 bugging him i gotta start yeah i think we need rachel wilson to debate uh michaela peterson that would be a

05:39:38.200 good episode that would be good that would be dope okay let's see what else we have to get through

05:39:44.440 um let me just double check my notes here uh do you have a do you have a question you want to pose to

05:39:50.200 the panel i i was hoping to get a super anti-patriarch but none of you guys none of you ladies took the

05:39:58.200 position so you know like you know you get this comment like kill the patriarchy and the patriarchy i was

05:40:05.480 i was betting that that was going to come up but it didn't come up so i'm at a loss for words when

05:40:11.640 you said you know you sound like jordan again i thought you're still in a role no but

05:40:19.800 cool story sorry hold on i'm still trying to find the thing i had i had like a million things i

05:40:26.520 wanted at freaking not a million things but let me shout out a couple people really quick uh guys if you

05:40:32.520 want 100 of your contribution to go towards us venmo cash app whatever pod we have colin no i

05:40:37.960 already did mc rocker thank you for the 12 matt thank you for the five thank you man really appreciate

05:40:43.080 it merci beaucoup uh let's see here one sec guys uh wait okay what can you read this one tiffany

05:40:55.800 me and my bros think that chair one is a five chair three is a five chair four is a five chair five is a

05:41:00.920 five the one that rage quit had nice booba and cake but her crazy obnoxious attitude put her out

05:41:06.440 of three chair two held to the no no no pasty george thank you for the canadian 20 men anybody want

05:41:14.520 to respond he's calling y'all fives i don't care what he calls me yeah i don't really care anybody

05:41:20.040 wait can you rate me are you down to rate me on a scale of one to ten you want me to rate you

05:41:27.720 rate me rate me i didn't say right okay i said rate right um it's just my tongue that makes it sound

05:41:35.640 like i'm not saying the correct words um but i don't know man go ahead i won't be offended

05:41:43.880 like and so i'm just judging you off of your looks right so you're not gonna be offended no you

05:41:51.640 can you can tell me i'm a one i won't be offended go ahead no i think you're pretty average so like a

05:41:57.320 five but you're 15 right yeah so like you'd be settling for me i don't see it as that no but you're

05:42:06.280 15 it doesn't matter so you're like that's 10 points difference it doesn't matter you'd be settling in

05:42:13.080 looks though i mean if you see it that way i don't really value looks like that

05:42:20.440 how many wigs do you have multiple like how many though i don't know like i have like is it all

05:42:26.120 12 is it all like my little pony stuff or do you have like a normal like a normal do you ever do

05:42:31.320 like a normal day no never not really no during that's rare gifted 10 subs thank you so much for

05:42:38.440 the gifted 10 subs durin dolls am i saying your shit right dude am i saying your name right i might

05:42:44.520 be fucking that up real bad we have ness nyc tiffany on the bear question what bias women usually

05:42:54.040 don't understand the majority of essays happen with someone she knows not strangers also rage

05:42:59.640 quitter proves higher education is a scam oh dude she has a master's in usc too

05:43:04.600 yeah that's a yikes actually wait what did what did she have her master's public uh policy or what

05:43:11.880 was it administration public administration god damn she ain't poetry though let's hope she's never

05:43:17.000 administrating something something can i just say something i just think that that's bullshit about

05:43:23.160 like it just being typically someone you know it's like it could literally be anyone it doesn't matter if

05:43:28.680 you know them or not it's just the majority i don't it's like my personal experience is like

05:43:35.800 people i don't know either you know what i mean and like i said before it's for me personally it's

05:43:42.360 been men and women you know so it's not like it's not that simple to me i'm sorry what well you kind of

05:43:52.360 you we're talking about essay oh yeah but you do give off a kind of a vibe that says i don't really

05:44:00.520 care in general about anything that's not true but go off i'm just saying like your view is like

05:44:09.240 if you hold the view that you just annihilate all human beings you don't really value life i don't

05:44:14.200 think you really value your own life that much and so i value my life yeah but you don't value human life

05:44:22.440 because you'd be willing you said in this podcast you'd be willing to annihilate all of us you don't

05:44:26.600 care so so why would why would the aggressor you know if you gave off that sort of vibe to people

05:44:32.520 why would they why wouldn't they take advantage i mean i don't care to appeal to other people that

05:44:37.320 treat me like shit and majority of people have treated me like shit so i don't really care

05:44:42.040 as has jim bob treated you like shit um i'm sure that he's keeping whatever thoughts he has

05:44:48.840 toxic masculinity thoughts yeah whatever no actually the first thing i thought about was

05:44:56.920 i think i was like oh this person has probably been through a whole lot uh yeah i don't like

05:45:03.000 that misconception that's also like a is it true though i mean i've been through a lot but like a

05:45:08.920 lot that other people haven't look at like people who look like me and think why oh you have to add

05:45:14.360 this to trauma like oh this is all because it's just well it just happens to be pretty consistent

05:45:20.680 when people sort of like what i what i would consider some sort of like um attack on their

05:45:28.520 their their face like people who do full face tattoos or like um what you're doing to your face

05:45:34.920 um i think that's like a communication to the world and so i could either be right or wrong but

05:45:41.640 what i perceive is oh this person is like been through a lot of shit that's what i get that you're

05:45:48.600 wrong and like it's not wrong that i've not been through a lot of shit but i just think that

05:45:53.560 if you're basing your perspective off of what i look like i just think that you're wrong and i also

05:45:59.000 think that's coming from a negative perspective and yeah but if i'm i can't be right and wrong

05:46:04.040 i asked you of my right and you said yes well i mean i've been through a lot but that doesn't mean

05:46:09.000 just because i look like this that because i know people who also been through a lot and they don't

05:46:14.600 look anything like me so it doesn't matter what i'm saying is that the way that you're perceiving me

05:46:21.080 for just how i'm looking is actually offensive what do you mean you don't expect people to look at

05:46:25.880 you and have a particular reaction no because i don't look at other people and think that way

05:46:29.960 that's not what determines it if you particularly look a certain way and on purpose present yourself

05:46:36.040 in a way that's completely atypical you're actually acting like it's some sort of like

05:46:42.520 transgression for people to go oh because how i see is that whenever i look normal people were

05:46:49.240 still bullying me and treating me like shit no matter what so i feel like if you're going to just

05:46:55.000 bully me no matter what i might as well just look the way that i that yeah that's kind of what i

05:46:59.640 picked up like you gave me the space to look like this so now you're saying because i look like this

05:47:03.800 now like i deserve like this type of treatment like i'm saying it's just i didn't say it's always been

05:47:09.480 that way so it doesn't really matter what i look like i'm saying that that's what i picked up from

05:47:14.360 you i could either be right or wrong i'm totally fine being wrong but my experience was oh this person

05:47:20.920 is communicating something to us with the way they look and the communication is

05:47:27.720 correct me if i'm wrong of how i look is just i like art and i i don't think that's true i think

05:47:33.160 it's i don't i think the communication is i don't give a fuck no i give a fuck

05:47:41.880 you don't you give a fuck but in this podcast you said you'd be totally fine annihilating all humans

05:47:46.920 yeah that doesn't make any sense i give a fuck about myself yeah that's the vibe i got okay

05:47:54.600 like i'm not understanding what you're asking so you only care about yourself um at this point

05:47:59.400 for the most part yeah like i don't really care about other people that much yeah that's exactly

05:48:03.720 the vibe i got but you're saying that i don't give a fuck about myself no i said you just don't give a

05:48:08.200 fuck if you don't give a fuck about like what are you saying if you don't give a fuck about anybody

05:48:14.920 about yourself why should anyone give a fuck about you because other people have already treated me

05:48:19.000 like they didn't give a fuck about me so why should i give a fuck about other people the last time i

05:48:23.240 came here the other the people that i was talking to were saying like oh it feels like you're giving

05:48:29.400 too much of yourself to other people not really da da da which i'm a i'm i'm a nice person it doesn't

05:48:36.680 matter whatever what how other people perceive me or whatever but like at the end of the day like

05:48:42.120 i just get cheated like crap no matter what i think you are a nice person i just think you're

05:48:46.600 hurting i'm not okay whatever i can say the same thing with you wearing that shirt but

05:48:53.720 touche

05:48:56.440 wow that was a roast

05:49:00.520 so tiffany what do you think about sammy

05:49:04.680 typical woman typical you she's not like special or anything she's just typical to you

05:49:10.120 um i mean she does only fans so i mean sammy are you gonna let her talk to you like that it's

05:49:16.040 all right she in her head she's in the top one percent and i'm in the top one percent on of so

05:49:21.160 it's oh snap boom mic drop tiffany how do you feel about that um most women are are leftists so i mean

05:49:31.880 it doesn't really make your top one percent tiffany will you arm wrestle sammy no sammy's strong why not

05:49:38.120 you think she's gonna beat you how much is it i mean you kind of like the weight class is different

05:49:45.880 yeah you're a lot skinnier than me like you said so well i might be a little too weak

05:49:49.560 sammy you're probably lighter you're probably lighter than she is yeah probably

05:49:56.520 i'm probably where she wants to be at so would you prefer like is that your goal weight is how much

05:50:02.760 to do with like 93 but i'm also a lot shorter so it kind of i feel like you have that like

05:50:07.560 i don't want to be 93 i feel like you have like i can't say you are strength no yeah you used to do

05:50:12.680 a lot of sports i mean gingers are super strong yeah redheads yeah i stay away from redheads i don't

05:50:18.920 even let my kids play with them you said you fight or do wrestling i had a crackhead told me about

05:50:23.960 nephil in theory and it was just like this whole thing about gingers and how they're fallen angels

05:50:37.480 and shit i usually don't listen to crackheads but they are on to something they are probably all

05:50:42.760 right guys last call on the uh the super chats last call uh we'll read these we'll let a few more

05:50:48.040 come through then we're gonna wrap uh tiffany do us the favors made by jim bob one of the best parts

05:50:53.880 of california's in and out burgers i hope you go thank you for the show brian i love the impressions

05:50:59.400 jim bob thank you jeff yeah i lived in la for 15 years but the cool thing is where i am in in

05:51:06.120 colorado we got a brand new in and out burger i appreciate that let's go oh yeah we got this one

05:51:12.040 from crucible from andrew jim bob shapiro versus nasa it's hard on why tree boning in mars is

05:51:20.440 appropriate due to the loss of the technology what's going on andrew let's go andrew i think

05:51:25.160 he's mad that i called him it is it is andrew okay i think he's mad that i called him a big mouth

05:51:29.800 character um uh yeah oh oh okay yeah yeah so uh look if we make it in mars and we find life the best

05:51:38.760 thing to do is procreate even if it's a tree well i don't think that that's possible we shouldn't do

05:51:43.560 that that um you guys wouldn't know who this is his name is don pettit um i don't think you should

05:51:50.360 touch a diggle trees like that ben shapiro you're a sick sick man

05:51:57.160 thanks andrew appreciate that andrew's definitely shit-faced though by the way yeah there's no way he's

05:52:03.960 not look at that spelling i mean look at that yeah he definitely scoffed cat says stats don't

05:52:11.800 care about personal experience yo cat thank you for the soup chat appreciate it uh jay eck and brian

05:52:16.440 i petition for whatever flannel shirt line uh yeah that would be cool honestly though merch is uh

05:52:22.840 i don't know merch is kind of like low priority for us but hey shop.whatever.com if you want to get

05:52:27.160 some merch but yeah we we kind of like don't really prior the merch too much all right 20 dollars

05:52:31.480 soup chat roast via youtube final call guys we're gonna get this wrapped up here uh momentarily wow

05:52:37.480 this might be one of our shortest i don't know the last time i'm gonna try to just end it sub uh six

05:52:43.320 hours that's super short you guys are lucky lucking out actually tonight hey it's good if that girl was

05:52:48.520 still there though it would have been like a 10 hour show so it's for real uh i actually don't mind

05:52:53.560 having it's been a pretty crazy couple weeks i don't mind a little shorter show yo pakara thank you

05:52:58.360 for the prime man appreciate it uh thank you thank you pakara all right any final thoughts

05:53:03.000 from any of the panelists before we get this wrapped up final thoughts speak now any topic final thoughts

05:53:09.240 anybody but go follow me at made by jim bob on every platform go follow jim bob go follow um tiffany's

05:53:18.760 feet finder follow my tick tock follow val's instagram you gotta call it tumblr or some

05:53:29.080 shit i don't know i did yes i'm on tick tock as alien spores and i'm on instagram as a

05:53:38.280 do you do like tick tock live streams where you just talk yeah i just go to work and then i turn that

05:53:43.960 shit on and talk to people love it okay i'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment

05:53:49.480 as an opportunity to give a call to action would you sammy consider stopping sex work entirely

05:54:02.520 tonight for what your soul are you gonna pay my bills or what is

05:54:09.480 no but i hear north carolina has a popeyes i have already they've got a waffle house i have

05:54:15.880 already been there they've got for of so i've already done all that shit sonic however do they

05:54:20.520 have sonic in north carolina in florida where i'm from i don't think there's sonic in california is there

05:54:27.960 i don't know there is there's a i've never had sonic i don't know i honestly if you want my opinion

05:54:32.520 dude i don't view it as sex work but that's because i don't post like corn and stuff like that

05:54:36.440 like my of isn't that like you can't go on there there's no bg content not there's no

05:54:41.640 not posted no ah so you send it in the dm it's a little different though yeah okay you've sold

05:54:47.400 videos of you having sex with men on camera no don't say men plural just my boyfriend i don't

05:54:51.560 do none of that a man okay fine a man just one guy singular but it's not i literally have enough

05:54:56.920 tapes i can count on one hand like literally like four or three like i don't have like that's not my

05:55:01.480 whole profile yeah but you sell them my okay but my profile is sex work the profile is me even if you

05:55:05.880 didn't do that it would be sex work i did sex work five times and guess what i'm still no it's

05:55:10.920 not that you did it five times you are a sex worker okay yeah sure if that's what you want to call it

05:55:15.800 it it's literally that is what you want to call okay would you consider stopping sex work tonight

05:55:21.880 right now on the show for what dude your soul i don't have when i'm ginger for one that's a fair

05:55:28.920 point she does have a point and i mean honestly like it's not even just because i don't want to go back

05:55:33.800 to working because i loved working i hated having to quit my job because i only quit my job like

05:55:38.280 literally a month and a half ago to like continue wait remind me how long have you been doing of

05:55:42.760 since december so about four months four months it's the only reason that it just helps with money

05:55:48.040 and you don't care at this point what the so honestly i really don't care i i view it as i am like

05:55:55.000 like what's the word for it don't say poetry no but i'm taking advantage you know um

05:56:04.040 of what is literally already on my social media the comments i get you know the stuff people say

05:56:08.920 i feel like my niche is people think i'm 14 i don't understand why but they do that might be one

05:56:14.120 don't blame me for that i have a problem with it too yeah but there's but you're but you're playing

05:56:18.360 into it no i'm not you just you just admitted that like i said no no what i was going to say is that

05:56:23.480 those comments are there anyway so it's either i profit off of it and i just make an account and

05:56:29.320 i get paid you're playing or i don't jim you had well it's like it'll happen anyway so well no no

05:56:35.480 money off of it or i sit there and porn doesn't no matter no porn doesn't no the comments don't make

05:56:41.160 you create content for instance no i wasn't saying that i'm saying like people saying certain things

05:56:46.120 about me are always going to be there yeah so no matter what content i do it's going to be the same

05:56:51.560 outcome no matter what yeah so it's like profit off of it and i take advantage of it rather than

05:56:56.520 just yeah but you can pretend to be a dwarf and make just as funny good content that's not

05:57:02.680 my content's not weird my content has nothing to do with that stuff really that's what i'm saying i

05:57:07.720 don't try to post like that i think you should just present yourself as a dwarf and and do fun

05:57:14.600 things that are wholesome and i try to do my car stuff and then all the little dwarfs who are the

05:57:19.800 real dwarfs they're going to say they're the real ones they're going to come after you then you create

05:57:24.200 this big huge like drama wait that's smart that's seriously you can be a dwarf red-headed ginger dwarf

05:57:32.440 bakes cakes you don't have to sell sex you just have to make enemies with the real dwarfs

05:57:37.880 it'd be the shirley temple of dwarfs pretty much something like that for sure you don't need to

05:57:42.680 do that stuff too lazy to work is crazy mr jimmy says chair one is just too lazy to work easier to

05:57:50.040 be a hoe for money yep actually i worked till i was like 15 until now i grew up from fucking nothing

05:57:56.120 and like literally lived in a shed by myself and now i live completely on my own with two cars one a

05:58:01.960 supra one a toyota 86 i am doing perfectly you sound like wes watson right now i'm on the track

05:58:06.680 to make everything i have assets everything i own you know is going to benefit for me but don't worry

05:58:12.680 about it it's okay wait do you uh your boyfriend helps you out with shooting the stuff does he get

05:58:18.680 does he get some of it um he gets i mean he works so he does his own stuff that he likes to do because

05:58:25.000 he likes automotive too but does he take the photo does he blur his face no that is uh has it already

05:58:31.320 started that he's uh saying hey what about this idea no new chicks no it's all my idea um he doesn't

05:58:39.880 see any problem with it but he's old enough i think he's kind of past that so he's into dwarfs

05:58:44.840 basically sure and i'm into black men so we get along very well um i don't see any problem with what

05:58:50.920 i do because it's easy and i think you know the world gets mad because it's easy and i really don't

05:58:57.000 give a fuck so yeah you guys can work or i wouldn't say you because you don't necessarily but

05:59:01.160 i just want you to make funny dwarf content like most people who like say stuff about it they go

05:59:06.520 and then they work 50 hours working for some man who tells them what to do i just think you'd be

05:59:10.600 less defensive if you made dwarf centric content he may be right like no he's right

05:59:20.200 yeah i should just fake he's not wrong pretend to be a door wait of the 11 bodies how many of them are

05:59:25.720 black guys

05:59:31.960 three oh okay so you've

05:59:34.440 i've yeah you've had variety yeah puerto ricans i've only dated one white guy which was the guy who

05:59:41.080 beat the hell out of me that's why i don't like them no more they do be doing that yeah

05:59:45.080 understandable some of them do uh strong yeah

05:59:50.440 asian um i've never dated an asian guy but i love okay this is not but i my type in women i love asian

06:00:00.600 women i literally did a collab with this asian girl but she was trash she was the worst person i've ever

06:00:05.800 met in my entire life and she was on here that one girl i told you about which girl uh kenna that one

06:00:12.360 girl oh she's no or whatever oh that's yeah yeah i know who you're talking about yeah yeah we literally

06:00:18.120 we collabed we split everything like price or whatever we go to colorado then we go to miami

06:00:24.600 for two weeks it's a two-week trip did it smell listen to this first of all she kisses like this

06:00:29.720 what the fuck is even that what the fuck is even that what is that i have a screenshot to prove it i

06:00:33.560 am not lying on this then so it seemed like you know she really wanted like she was like our content

06:00:39.400 was different hers was extreme hers was hey i do this this this this mine's not mine's mediocre

06:00:45.000 mine's light work it's not crazy so i mean so we're doing fine and i go i'm in miami i see a supra

06:00:53.320 that's in my budget and i go and i buy a fucking toyota supra and she's pissed off and arguing with

06:00:58.520 her boyfriend there and i'm like hey i'm sorry like i don't mean to keep you here for that long like i

06:01:02.440 really didn't mean to keep you here it's a dealership and as she goes home oh my god who

06:01:07.960 the hell do you know how to drive stick shift yeah i can drive five speed six speed okay that's what's

06:01:13.080 important and it's funny you put that whenever you're the one who fucking asked me but anyways

06:01:17.240 no then um no then let me tell you so basically she flew home because she got pissed i bought a car

06:01:23.560 and made a video saying i wanted to be her but i actually would hate to even look like her act like

06:01:27.800 her so yeah that's kind of what happened and we're never going to collab again obviously so

06:01:34.440 yeah damn that i'm so sorry no it's okay but she was on here and she was saying that like girls

06:01:39.400 deserve to get paid to just be hot see i don't agree with that like i actually put money and work

06:01:44.200 into my content now like i still have to go around like all of this dude like who you think paid for

06:01:49.560 this trip i literally funded all this myself i've been here for the last week and a half you know what i

06:01:53.640 mean so it's like i can do things on my own i've done it on my own it's not just about

06:01:57.560 who ron shitshow so let's go yeah do you think toyota supers are that good of cars though the

06:02:03.800 newer ones are kind of iffy i don't know yet because you know i just got one but the bmw

06:02:08.200 engine does throw me off a little bit it scares me but when you have toyota they're combing through

06:02:13.480 everything maybe it'll be reliable but i did get the full engine and you know drive train warranty so

06:02:19.560 you just produced more better content than any pornography just a midget with red hair talking about

06:02:25.320 maybe i'm w but i just don't produce like corn like you know i i like to make it seem like my

06:02:33.000 viewers and my subscribers are getting an inside view of my personal life not just hey this is me

06:02:38.120 with my shirt are you do you race my car yeah have you ever considered doing racing kids what you know

06:02:46.600 like kit you know kids race little tiny um when they get trained to do f1 racing they start with like

06:02:52.600 little oh you mean like go-karts car yeah yeah yeah no i did um a little something like that you

06:02:58.520 know there's actually an airbnb in california that's built for that it has a track all around it yeah

06:03:03.560 all right uh natalia gifted 50 whatever memberships natalia guys w's in the chat for natalia guys thank

06:03:10.760 you so much natalia welcome back good to see you thank you thank you natalia guys we need some w's in the

06:03:17.080 chapter and it's 50 gift oh my goodness natalia is on fire oh andrew you missed one he's oh i'll get

06:03:24.040 to it i'll get to it uh and we have cat oh my god she gifted 50 oh it's like they're one-upping each

06:03:29.640 other cat natalia battle natalia cat uh thank you cat really appreciate the gifted 50 whatever

06:03:37.080 memberships w's in the chat for cat and then we have uh oh i'm tiffany can you read this one he said

06:03:43.400 jim bob must read okay my best go ahead my name is jim bob you can find me at made by jim bob channel

06:03:50.760 on youtube and all other platforms i'm a brilliant artist comic impressionist musician and i'm terrible

06:03:56.840 at marketing thanks andrew uh all right we have uh hold on tiffany can you read this one you're dumb if

06:04:09.400 you think any modern politician hears about you i'm rolling solo at this point because most people

06:04:14.600 suck start your own business support small local businesses f greedy corporations good luck crisis

06:04:20.920 king archer thank you so much for the soup chat man uh ask sammy about the roaster oven what's this i

06:04:27.800 have no idea i have literally no idea what that means what is the roaster oh wait it's because i blew up

06:04:34.280 that's it's because i blew up my sister's toaster oven that's my sister that's your sister wait

06:04:40.600 who's dan that's her husband dan oh i blew up her toaster oven babysitting damn what the hell

06:04:49.000 damn you need to tell us some more shit that like some more property damage i was like 15 that she's

06:04:54.840 done to you guys because this sounds a beauty this is like an abusive relationship you're just like

06:04:59.880 fucking up her toaster oven what the fuck okay uh cool story bro i don't believe you chair one from

06:05:05.800 mr jimmy that 20 was worth saying that wouldn't it i think it was super worth it super now he's gonna

06:05:11.400 blast like five in a row talking shit be watch out okay miyamoto musashi says chair one how exactly does

06:05:20.760 one make it to the top one percent of of of while only sending sparse videos to people in dm seems a

06:05:25.240 little sus because i know how to market and i know how to sell by value not price wow i was already

06:05:31.960 in sales before of you don't think i know how to sell some shit the fuck the foot

06:05:39.000 is that how they talk in north carolina is that north carolina for oh florida are you where are you

06:05:43.880 from the mean streets of no i'm from like north central florida so like orlando you know boca

06:05:49.080 raton what what that was not english boca you don't know boca raton florida you're wait you're

06:05:58.280 hold on you're from i've been to florida once north central florida so nobody but have you heard of

06:06:04.200 boca raton i have no idea what that is who here has heard of boca raton am i saying it wrong maybe a

06:06:11.160 a little bit you're from florida and you don't know about boca what a dumb ass i'm just kidding

06:06:20.120 i hate when people do that i'm like wait you hate when people what it's like i'm not in comedy

06:06:24.840 because i haven't heard of something damn it oh you've never seen that movie never like it's so

06:06:30.040 funny how yeah it's funny how it's like a phenomenon where it blows the other person's

06:06:33.720 mind like universally where they're like you just haven't seen it you know i'm saying like hold

06:06:37.480 on that's like if i lived in california my entire life and i never heard of los angeles

06:06:45.160 maybe that's not a perfect one-to-one comparison but a really popular city though

06:06:49.720 that's like saying i don't know then i've never i've lived in california my whole life and i've

06:06:53.960 never heard of santa cruz sure but i don't know that's probably comparable

06:07:00.280 sure you're from florida but it's like with anything i just it's like with anything it's like

06:07:05.480 a movie i guess i guess it is go ahead go ahead go ahead tell us how you feel that's that's how

06:07:10.360 i feel tell us how you really feel though i'm just gonna keep going all right i'm pretty sure that's

06:07:13.320 it um just double checking making sure we got everything all in the clear here wait what the

06:07:19.560 what the oh my god i pinned the wrong thing oh my goodness i pinned the wrong thing like the video

06:07:27.720 hold on let me do that god bless what did i pin from john william god bless rachel i'm praying for

06:07:33.480 okay i don't know why i pinned that i mean it's good god bless rachel but i don't know why i

06:07:37.320 accidentally pinned that okay so are you willing to quit of or no or is that just a no-go uh no i'm

06:07:42.200 okay okay actually if you want to sub link an instagram bio disavow um okay gg well played wait

06:07:50.280 well played wait hold on gg well played oh my i totally scuffed that okay

06:07:55.160 last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you guys for tuning in tonight i really

06:08:03.080 appreciate it you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that

06:08:08.280 thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show thank you to the wonderful panel

06:08:12.280 you guys made it to the end of the show this is one of our shortest shows in a very long time so

06:08:16.280 congratulations guys i don't know if that's a compliment though maybe that

06:08:21.640 no i take it personally you guys are so lacking conversationally that this show is

06:08:26.040 our shortest in like over a year so congrats i'm glad you made it to the end good job guys really

06:08:31.880 proud of you okay we will be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on the

06:08:36.600 show you can dm out whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara uh oh sevens in the

06:08:41.560 chat let me just double check make sure we're all good here on everything one moment guys uh

06:08:49.000 yo chat i have a question for you i have a question what is it i feel left out damn there was like

06:09:00.280 something i had to ask but it's i'm just forgetting it and it's gonna kill me if i don't ask it let me

06:09:06.760 just double check my notes here really quick uh tiffany are you a racist i don't know no oh okay

06:09:18.440 cool thank you for your contribution tiffany uh let's see okay we did val stuff we did alien we

06:09:27.800 did sammy not in that way uh

06:09:30.840 okay well i'm just gonna have to be upset that i forgot whatever i was gonna

06:09:36.520 oh there's some sort of topic that we had wait there's a picture wait okay no we did that

06:09:42.920 we did that did this okay all right well uh guys thank you for tuning in tonight uh one sec

06:09:52.040 i'm sorry that this is really awkward now because i'm trying i i'm trying to there's something i'm

06:10:01.320 forgetting

06:10:04.920 did i talk about big labia yeah i did yeah you did ad nauseum only date yeah i didn't not ad nauseum

06:10:12.440 there's a very limited okay all right guys like the video please on your way out um

06:10:17.960 um thank you again guys for tuning in guys can i see some oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in the chat

06:10:24.280 boys all right guys good night good night we will see you guys next sunday good night guys

06:10:30.280 fuck it we're going back boys okay uh andrew just came in you son of a gun uh you were going to

06:10:48.520 ask if i should move to san barbara and become the official coast of whatever and we go to twice

06:10:52.040 a week and make banger content well i mean to add on top of that we're also gonna get you consistent

06:10:59.080 one v one debates consistent one v one debates if you get out here to santa barbara andrew wilson

06:11:04.360 w's in the chat for andrew wilson the crucible thank you thank you guys so much okay guys hope

06:11:08.760 you guys have a good night oh seven in the chat good night guys

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