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00:03:12.600 started a little late guys i apologize we had a pre-show quit i don't know if it was a rage quit

00:03:19.200 maybe i shouldn't call it a rage quit that's just nervous it was like a coward quit maybe a cow i don't

00:03:25.600 know uh pre-show rage it wasn't a rage quit it was it was kind of shaky yeah yeah cold feet quit

00:03:33.460 cold feet cold feet definitely so that was recorded we'll put we'll post that to the behind

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00:03:42.300 you typically don't get to see during the full live streams a couple shows ago andrew was here in

00:03:46.700 person andrew wilson and he was um he was attacked ruthlessly just beat him beat into a pulp no just

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00:04:02.040 on the live stream so um andrew did you you kind of deserved no i'm just kidding just kidding no

00:04:08.100 it was un undeserving and uh an assault on andrew's dignity and honor and body so luckily i was there

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00:04:30.200 once again for the delayed start with that said without further ado we're going to have the guests

00:04:35.560 introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation where you're from and your education

00:04:41.520 go ahead um okay so number one i lost my voice because um i had a little too much fun at the bar

00:04:47.420 yesterday but um gotta love it i know sorry sorry very professional anyways you were you were talking

00:04:55.140 plenty before the show i actually was on not too much yeah you were yapping i was i was i was a

00:05:01.440 little yapping yeah yeah usually usually i am yapping and it sucks there right now that my voice sucks

00:05:08.240 so because usually i love talking um but i'm writing um i am originally from i guess like the ie the

00:05:16.220 inland empire yes okay age yeah i'm just kidding uh anyways i'm 25 i am a bartender um i

00:05:24.880 kind of just picked up bartending as like a who cares kind of thing during covid and then it

00:05:30.380 just worked out because money is great so okay all right and uh any college or anything like that

00:05:37.700 yeah yeah um i ended up doing criminology i only have the bachelor's never went back for master's

00:05:42.200 kind of sucks you can't do much in a criminology major which owns the bachelor's so you got your

00:05:46.960 bachelor's yeah that's it though okay is it a bachelor of art or science bachelor of science

00:05:50.520 bachelor of science in criminology yes okay all right cool what about you awesome my name is maddie

00:05:56.080 i am 22 and from utah and then i am a senior in college with a finance degree all right just a

00:06:03.160 student for now which college do you go to uv uv uv okay and you said you're you have a finance degree

00:06:08.980 or you're working on it um hopefully in the next few weeks it'll be completed okay and you're getting

00:06:12.920 so you're getting your bachelor's in finance yep okay uh do you work do you have a job or

00:06:17.740 um i do real estate part of the time okay um and you you're from utah salt lake city uh-huh okay

00:06:25.200 are you mormon or no not mormon okay but didn't they like rebrand let's get they're called the

00:06:32.080 church of jesus christ of laurie saints i am a member oh you're mormon okay well not mormon church

00:06:40.680 of jesus christ of laurie saints but thank you but but it's a sect of christianity yes at least it's

00:06:46.320 mormonism at least with the mormons that's the mormon position we officially changed the name

00:06:52.040 because we want to include jesus christ in the title and make that clear that that's the center

00:06:55.700 of our church well they changed okay you changed the name because there was a lot of really bad

00:07:01.980 history associated with mormonism and they didn't want the reputational damage that's that's why

00:07:06.840 no because we chose to make sure it was clear that we made this jesus christ the center of our church

00:07:12.620 no it's because they were diddling little kids in your temple that's that's why and because of that

00:07:18.560 they wanted to change the reputation of the mormon church that's why it happened because in utah

00:07:24.200 there was sex which were marrying underage children and everything else and it was awful god awful what

00:07:28.840 was going on i would urge you to go to the church's official website and actually look into what they

00:07:35.140 say about that because they do look up official mormon history and how god awful it is within their

00:07:40.320 various sex you know every religion is pretty awful every religion not like that one um actually

00:07:47.340 pretty bad human sacrifices you know that type of thing we're talking about like the mayans yeah

00:07:52.100 can you tell me in the 20th century where christians were doing human sacrifice because i'm not saying

00:07:56.920 christians are doing that it was completely appropriate to have uh you know six underage

00:08:01.760 wives and that was in the sect of mormonism outside mainstream christianity i am seriously urging you to

00:08:08.060 look up exactly what it says on the church's official page

00:08:11.520 and they address all these issues propaganda of the mormon church i'm not here to debate my religion

00:08:18.380 i'm just telling you to look it up on the church's official page if you really want to debate this you

00:08:22.480 can debate it with my father he was a bishop i'm happy to do so bring him on i'd be happy to uh

00:08:28.560 to debate the theology of mormonism and the history of the church of of mormonism andrew we had a rage

00:08:34.680 quit before the show let's maybe all right all right like i i'm not gonna hit the brakes i'm not

00:08:40.320 gonna quit i'm not all right um okay uh what about you oh sorry okay um i'm lydia i'm the spokesperson

00:08:50.000 for students for life of america i am 22 years old and i graduated from campbell university in

00:08:54.980 december uh what did you major in or what was your business administration business administration

00:09:00.100 okay got it all right and you currently you live where again sorry i live in north carolina north

00:09:05.960 carolina okay you grew up there or um i was actually born in san jose um but grew up near charlotte for

00:09:11.320 most of my life um and i'm here in california for some speaking events all right go ahead what about

00:09:17.020 you my name is natalie i am from seattle area i'm a student i'm 22 and i go to the u of u

00:09:25.180 okay and uh what did you get your degree in sorry or um i'm or you're still working on it yes

00:09:32.960 hopefully three more weeks same as her so what marketing with emphasis in sales sorry marketing

00:09:38.600 and marketing with an emphasis in sales marketing with an emphasis in sales okay all right what about

00:09:44.040 you uh so my name is lauren i'm 32 i am a uh courtesan at the moonlight bunny ranch i'm a musician

00:09:52.980 and i'm a hobbyist student i know that sounds really weird but i i don't plan on being a

00:09:58.440 hypnotherapist but i'm in hypnotherapy school to get my degree and just i'm using it for my life so

00:10:03.320 that that's i know it sounds weird i'll pay the tuition but i just it's helpful and i don't know

00:10:10.260 where i'm gonna go other than the music but that that's what i'm doing right now all right uh

00:10:17.360 welcome back good to have you back what about you hi my name is haley smith i am 21 i'm from

00:10:25.100 stockton i currently uh milk cows at the fresno state dairy and i am getting my bachelor's in

00:10:33.020 animal science to be a large animal veterinarian okay all right welcome back welcome what about you

00:10:41.360 hi my name is caitlin i am 21 i um do data entry online and i'm opening my own pet store

00:10:49.180 okay where are you from um colorado springs any college or anything like that nope just got my ged

00:10:56.160 well not just but i got my ged so all right what about you my name is abigail i am 21 i live in

00:11:04.000 washington and i'm currently a teacher's assistant at an early learning childhood center okay great

00:11:11.500 all right well uh we're gonna go around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship

00:11:16.280 status uh if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've

00:11:21.420 ever been in go ahead i am single and freshly single so um yeah not okay not too fresh maybe like

00:11:28.640 a month or so but we'll see it but uh yeah i mean that's it nothing too too much to it i mean i have

00:11:35.240 a favorite ex i guess but that's it you know i mean it's real when did it end uh like a month or

00:11:41.980 yeah like yeah a month so you've been single for a month long relationship yeah longest relationship

00:11:47.920 seven years seven years is that the one that ended the month ago no that was like a high school

00:11:51.460 going to college yeah so your favorite ex is not your most recent ex right yeah oh it is

00:11:58.520 we were just on and off all the time and it was kind of like a thing that it was like why are we

00:12:03.200 arguing so much like we should just kind of if we're arguing more of the time then we're actually

00:12:07.840 celebrating like our time together like might as well just go out you still have your life you're 27

00:12:12.540 i'm 25 like go experience whatever you want to experience so we could just maybe if it's meant to

00:12:18.000 be you know then that's it but other than that no you know like i can't hold down like i don't own a

00:12:23.880 person so would you take him back now at the moment with like where he's at probably not just

00:12:31.200 because he has things to work on and i have things to work on and not to say like i'm too involved in

00:12:36.420 a relationship when i start dating so like until i feel like i have the time and everything but until

00:12:41.980 then like honestly i don't have the time i just got another dog so i'm just like it's too much it's too

00:12:47.240 much so so wait just to be clear your seven-year relationship is the one that ended no okay that

00:12:53.380 one it was a high school from sophomore year all the way until i finished college okay so the

00:12:58.260 relationship that ended a month ago how long was that relationship um on and off wise we knew each

00:13:05.400 other since 2022 because we would break up and then get back together and then break up and then get

00:13:10.400 back together so like three years yeah so okay so how many times was it on again off again

00:13:16.180 i don't i don't know i don't know yeah i didn't want to drop the bomb but yeah i don't know it

00:13:21.320 was just like we would fight so we would be like okay i'm done and it was like okay then you broke

00:13:25.860 up like we broke up and then we would go like no contact and then it was like we would talk again

00:13:30.240 and then it was like oh we should try this out it sounds healthy it was not healthy and that's why

00:13:35.040 you let it go if it's not healthy that's exactly for real this time you're actually letting him go

00:13:39.020 yeah yeah that's why like yeah yeah and especially just because like i was always um i guess i would say

00:13:45.540 i was manipulated but i was not it's just the point of like i start to have too much empathy

00:13:50.520 and i put their feelings above mine and then when i stop like concerning about myself like i stop

00:13:57.040 concerning about work i stop it's just like that point where i'm like until i feel like you could

00:14:03.060 like fully provide we're gonna get married we're gonna have kids we're not gonna deal with lies

00:14:08.220 we're not gonna deal with issues and we have a very healthy standpoint maybe we'll get back together

00:14:12.560 but until then no okay so uh it's maybe been what a dozen times that it's yeah more than a dozen

00:14:19.600 a dozen times 12 here let's okay um so you've only been apart for a month yeah okay so you guys are

00:14:29.820 probably gonna get back together then oh no right now we're on no contact fully fully have you been

00:14:33.860 on no contact before uh not like that i guess i guess this time we did it like amicably like we

00:14:40.920 kind of just like looked at each other and we kind of were just crying and i was like i don't need

00:14:44.760 this like and you don't need this either like we don't need this and yeah we said our goodbyes and

00:14:49.960 i haven't looked and he hasn't looked for me so until then yeah you guys will probably get back

00:14:54.660 together but um have you had a rebound no not yet not yet have you before before i mean after my

00:15:01.700 high school relationship i mean i did but then again i was also like freshly like 18 19 so then i was

00:15:07.920 like but i mean my frontal lobe was not developed so i can't i can't blame that okay and uh your

00:15:16.560 seven-year relationship who ended that one uh he did he got somebody else pregnant oh man nice

00:15:23.580 congratulations yeah so that's great did you stay with him no i did not after that after the pregnancy

00:15:29.440 yeah but he cheated on you before then i mean obviously it took nine months so yeah okay um

00:15:36.120 all right uh what about you i am single for the last six months so just came out of a two-year

00:15:44.880 relationship that's been my longest but i've had a couple others that are about that length

00:15:48.680 all right you've had okay uh the so you've had like maybe two or three relationships that were

00:15:55.040 about two years yeah yeah that's fair okay uh was it two was it three um no they're probably

00:16:04.660 the last one was two there's been one 1.5 there's been some shorter ones but but has it been three

00:16:11.880 relationships four relationships of that length how many oh i would say two two okay yeah who broke up

00:16:18.880 with who in the most recent one um it was kind of mutual there's just some life differences difference

00:16:23.840 of opinion and couldn't really be worked out okay and what about the i guess the first one then

00:16:29.560 um who broke up with who that was

00:16:33.560 oh that was hard um

00:16:37.700 that one was pretty mutual as well there's it was just really failing and just had to go our separate

00:16:44.340 ways okay uh you've been single for six months that was a two-year the two-year relationship though

00:16:51.700 right that was the one where there was a a mismatch of values or how did you frame it um values yeah

00:16:58.860 i would say so just timeline people wanted to get married sooner than others and i'm kind of really

00:17:04.320 big on just finishing out school getting into a career and really getting settled down before making

00:17:09.920 huge life decisions and just not wanting to jump into that so he how old was he um 23 23 and you

00:17:16.300 were 22 or maybe 21 um so he wanted to get married yeah he wanted to have kids and you didn't

00:17:24.760 is that correct um you wanted you wanted to finish college well no you but i understand you want to

00:17:31.880 have kids down the road but at the specific time you didn't it was all a little too fast for me for the

00:17:36.740 too fast uh besides his the lack or the misalignment when it came to timeline as to

00:17:44.560 relationship milestones getting married having kids what uh

00:17:48.840 shoot uh was there anything i guess was there anything else mismatched there in the relationship

00:17:56.240 um probably just religious differences okay was he like a muslim or what was he no he's just a

00:18:02.340 different kind of christian okay i just we didn't have the same walk with that sure what we're both

00:18:06.680 pretty strong in our beliefs so sure what what uh denomination are you i'm just christian or non-denomination

00:18:13.560 okay and what was he he's lds oh mormon okay all right there you go okay there it is it's gonna

00:18:21.300 be a mormon conversation we're gonna be talking about mormonism tonight folks uh all right mormonism

00:18:25.860 okay uh but i assume you knew he was a mormon when you first met him right was that like i mean is

00:18:34.800 that a non-negotiable for you like they have to be non-denominational or could they be like

00:18:41.840 catholic could they be orthodox no i just i think we both realize we just really want somebody that's

00:18:47.260 going to walk the same walk with christ and we just view a lot of those things differently with the

00:18:51.580 religious structures and there's a lot of covenants and things you make in that religion

00:18:56.400 that can be i just wasn't sure i didn't feel truthful i didn't get my answer from god yet so

00:19:00.980 okay i don't really want to dive too much more into it but yeah it was mutual sure wish him the best

00:19:06.500 okay got it yeah okay um i guess i suppose that makes sense difference of values when it came to

00:19:14.560 religion and timeline uh now when you say that you want to finish out college and get jump started in

00:19:19.960 your career uh do you um have a sense of when you would like to be married and start having kids

00:19:27.420 no it's all up to god's timing i don't really feel any pressure or rush well sure let's say you met a

00:19:32.880 guy today and you guys dated for one year you got engaged you got married a year later you're 24

00:19:39.360 you've finished college at this point you've done some of your career uh let's say your husband is

00:19:45.200 fairly well off maybe makes 150 000 a year uh would you and he's like but i want to start having kids

00:19:52.820 now do you want to continue pursuing your career or would you like to have kids

00:19:57.460 uh at 24 i actually believe you could do both so i definitely grew up with a mother working in the

00:20:04.340 home and that's something that i really admire and so while i think that being a wife and mother is

00:20:08.540 super important i believe at the same time if you want to do both you can i definitely see myself

00:20:13.680 taking a few years off of work as a young mother but i love my career i like finance and so i'm super

00:20:20.300 interested in still pursuing that and remind me your career you said real estate and with finance i

00:20:26.920 know that you can do a couple different things with that um but primarily real estate is your focus

00:20:32.920 so selling houses let's say your husband made five hundred thousand dollars a year so you didn't need to

00:20:37.440 work uh and he told you i don't want you to work i want you to stay at home i don't want to ship our

00:20:44.240 kids off to daycare i want you to stay home take care of the kids take care of me take care of the

00:20:49.360 household stop working do you i think that would it would less be of a necessity i wouldn't need to

00:20:56.260 work but i think that i would enjoy i do enjoy working i do enjoy my business relationship so even if

00:21:01.960 it was 500k i would probably still do the amount of work that was meaningful for me without sacrificing

00:21:07.540 my children what i mean so what amount of work would that be i mean you'd work 20 hours a week 30

00:21:16.040 hours a week i mean i work in sales so i can i can delegate things as i need to i can run a team

00:21:21.300 remotely and so it's not really like a huge hindrance to me i guess the thought of working

00:21:25.820 so would you have your kids in daycare no nannies nannies yeah i had probably 10 or 12 nannies growing

00:21:33.860 up and it was a great experience yeah you think that's god's plan that you yeah have your kids get

00:21:39.700 raised by nannies no i don't think it's the worst alternative i think having a mother in the home at

00:21:44.640 least 80 percent of the time is super important but i also saw the value of like hey being an active

00:21:49.780 parent is more important than being a present parent 100 percent of the time so to me a thoughtful

00:21:55.620 relationship thoughtful time with your kids and like really being invested in their lives is more

00:22:00.020 important than being there 105 percent of the time just there or you can't be invested if you're not

00:22:05.060 there right can i also add something yeah go ahead abigail to uh based to go off of your answer to his

00:22:11.840 question do you not believe in a wife submitting to her husband's leadership because if your husband

00:22:17.660 is telling you i don't want you to work and you're going to work anyway that goes against biblical

00:22:23.960 teachings wouldn't you agree yeah i think it just comes down to situation every family has to make

00:22:30.220 their own decisions based off of finances based off of you know situation you'll talk to your husband

00:22:35.180 before you get married figure out you know what do we see life looking like together and that's a

00:22:39.680 conversation you can have so i don't think it has to come down to biblical frameworks every single

00:22:44.720 time we live in a modern world that has to account for that it's interesting do you have more on that

00:22:51.560 abigail yeah i do disagree i think it can be black and white because it's pretty specific in the bible

00:22:57.000 that you are to submit to a husband's leadership you can have that conversation in the beginning

00:23:00.700 and say your husband says you know it's okay for you to work and then like you said situations change

00:23:05.840 thank you situations change and say he is seeing that you're not giving enough time to the kids in

00:23:12.160 his eyes and so now he doesn't want you to work is that something that you'd be able to respect

00:23:16.820 in the man that you chose okay i think it's always like a continued conversation of like hey like how

00:23:21.920 is mothership going i obviously don't have kids right now so i can't tell you what's in their best

00:23:25.780 interest because they do not exist but down the road i could totally see myself like hey my two-year-old

00:23:30.420 like i need to spend more time like absolutely here's what we're going to do this is it's a

00:23:34.400 interesting conversation uh i want to get everybody introduced with their relationship but we'll come

00:23:40.220 back to this topic because it's we'll come right back to it um after we get everybody's

00:23:44.700 relationship status so uh what about you i am married i got married in july um so

00:23:51.860 we need a champagne pop because you were on the show before i know i was engaged and you were not

00:23:59.300 you were dating it was the same guy though right oh yeah of course we need a little champagne pop for

00:24:03.100 yeah hey look cheers we gotta celebrate but uh okay so you guys are married though right what we are

00:24:09.680 yes we're married yes we're married okay um he's my longest relationship so we met in 2020 when i was

00:24:16.180 in high school okay and stayed together did long distance for a little bit while i was in college

00:24:20.480 and then he actually moved to the area near me and yeah now now we're married it's great he's the best

00:24:26.180 all right cool what about you um i have been single for i think two and a half years now

00:24:34.860 and then my longest relationship was a little bit over a year all right and you said you've been

00:24:39.900 single for two and a half years what the heck uh

00:24:43.360 who broke uh who ended the one-year relationship um it was pretty mutual as well we both kind of

00:24:51.520 just decided it was he mormon he wasn't are you mormon i'm not i'm christian church of latter-day

00:24:58.760 the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints non-denominational yeah i grew up in assemblies

00:25:04.120 of god churches and non-denom non-denom are you're christian too right yes uh what denomination i go

00:25:10.160 to a non-denominational church non-denominational okay got it are you religious or not um i did not

00:25:15.040 like grow up in a religious household so like i explored i mean after that i started kind of just

00:25:20.120 going to christian church afterwards and then i was like i do fuck with it i'm oops sorry i don't mean

00:25:24.900 to say it like that but yeah but i liked it and i it like so then afterwards i just so but i am not

00:25:30.700 like the craziest christian so yeah fair enough uh relationship status me i'm i'm single i've been

00:25:39.140 single i think like three and a half years i say three and a half years technically single maybe like

00:25:45.820 2.75 years because like we we opened the relationship he was dating actually someone else

00:25:54.060 but that was cool i opened i opened it i just think um after um and just yeah like after i got

00:26:01.780 ms i think things changed he didn't he didn't leave me at all but i think that i had different desires

00:26:09.740 and i think he had different desires too so i opened the relationship for a year um he you know did that

00:26:18.020 i was cool with it and then after like that one year i was like you know i i think we should just you

00:26:23.900 know break up you're kind of with somebody and you know it's cool so we broke up and and yeah it was

00:26:29.840 it was kind of mutual we both knew it was just a sign of times okay all right what about you um i've

00:26:35.280 been in a relationship for about a year and a half and this is my longest relationship all right

00:26:41.380 were you in a relationship when you were last on the show yes same guy right same relationship yes

00:26:46.260 all right what about you um i am not in a relationship and i've never been in a relationship

00:26:51.480 okay you're single oh yeah uh never have you been on like dates or anything like that um i've gone

00:26:58.280 past i haven't gone past the second date with somebody second base you haven't gone or date

00:27:03.500 sorry no bases no bases zero wait zero bases basically zero bases except for when i was 14 that

00:27:12.420 was the last and only time i've ever kissed someone okay so you got one kiss one kiss okay

00:27:17.220 and it was a bad situation it was a bad kiss he was 18 oh turning 19 okay that's waiting

00:27:23.660 going to hell i didn't mean to he mama birded me he went in my throat it was disgusting and i hated it

00:27:32.640 i'm traumatized oh that sounds true it was a bad kiss um uh so wait you're okay so you're a virgin

00:27:39.380 correct yes okay and do we have is this a virgin panel i feel sure

00:27:43.640 yeah okay lauren um i virgin no virgin

00:27:53.500 you doesn't yeah i am oh i'm waiting not like born again though like no yeah i've been waiting

00:28:01.700 till marriage virgin okay all right i respect that cool all right rock and roll um all right what about

00:28:08.800 you i am married i've been married for two years now all right married for two years rock and roll

00:28:15.420 and uh are you christian of course okay uh what denomination i just follow christ so i guess you

00:28:23.620 could say non-denominational okay and then you're christian too right yeah i grew up non-denominational

00:28:28.460 but i've been researching the orthodox church so i'm leaning i'm leaning that way for sure well

00:28:33.160 andrew here is a andrew's an orthodox christian so you got any questions he's your guy

00:28:39.460 so uh we have a super chat i'm gonna let come through we have uh wait what the

00:28:47.560 yarmouth i'm sorry andrew i love your stuff you're totally out of your depth

00:28:52.220 get jacob hansen to talk to andrew if he wants to talk the lds faith thank you uh yarmouth thank you for

00:28:59.540 the soup chat andrew do you want to do a quick response on that i just set one up with jacob

00:29:03.960 and jay dyer and he said no i would be willing i and he refused to debate with me on the topic of

00:29:11.020 joseph smith he absolutely refused so that's that if you would like i can later at some time i'll give

00:29:16.900 you the number of my dad he is a missionary and he is teaching the gospel so yeah he's not going to

00:29:22.640 come in and debate about joseph and mormons don't debate about joseph smith they won't do it

00:29:26.580 i guarantee you if you want to debate with somebody there's plenty of missionaries that

00:29:30.960 would be willing to you can go to any church i guarantee there won't be a single missionary

00:29:34.380 have you tried to reach out to he just said he tried and debate about joseph they wouldn't come

00:29:38.740 in on the show they wouldn't come in on the show but they would be willing to debate about joseph

00:29:42.580 smith with you privately if you like privately i'm just gonna make this because publicly the

00:29:49.080 position's untenable so they know because this is a dating podcast not okay you need to make a

00:29:55.760 platform on planet earth they won't do it we host where we host 1v1 debates yeah it doesn't matter

00:30:01.840 where you could be a theological channel could be anything mormons don't if you would like to

00:30:06.580 debate with someone that's fine you can film with the missionaries and meet with them privately or

00:30:10.400 or out and at church or whatever you can do what you want and also i'm just going to make this clear

00:30:15.500 brian i'm not here to debate my religion i'm very set on this so i'm just i respect you i'm fine with

00:30:20.620 that i just i'm totally fine with that hang on hang on i wasn't even responding to you i was

00:30:24.720 responding to a super chat oh no no i'm just you hang on and then you started to discuss this again

00:30:30.320 with me i didn't even direct it at you so what i'm saying to you though is there is not a single

00:30:36.140 mormon who's in any leadership function for any mormon church who will debate on the topic of joseph

00:30:42.220 smith i know i've reached out to hundreds of different churches they don't do it and i can give

00:30:46.820 you the number of one that would be willing to do it all right all right all right well well i just

00:30:51.580 don't want to talk about you guys connected i guess after the show sorry and uh and we do we do

00:30:56.340 uh serious one v one debates on here uh not on the dating talk panels but we have a different format so

00:31:03.320 we have this one from brian what the oh my god that's crazy

00:31:09.960 all right thank you thank you for that one appreciate it do mormons engage and oh my god i can't wait

00:31:19.640 that's i think this happens more often than not uh brian's brian loves roast beef punani thank you

00:31:28.420 that's that's a great name uh thank you appreciate it big labia matter okay so that's everybody's

00:31:33.640 relationship status before i and i i wrote down the notes so we're going to get back into some of the

00:31:40.480 conversations about you know mismatches and timelines when it comes to dating wants needs

00:31:45.280 uh that sort of stuff career career like balancing career and family i think that's a really interesting

00:31:51.960 conversation but first we have to get through a few other topics really quick uh mary let me have

00:31:56.500 you pull up the first reacts that we're going to do the first uh tweets all right so this is really

00:32:03.980 quick one uh kanye west april 9th labia place these should be government issued i had to fucking start

00:32:10.480 beefing with kanye because um uh leave it there as someone uh only dates women with large i find this

00:32:16.840 deeply offensive hashtag big labia matter so um i think we ratioed kanye pretty hard on this probably

00:32:22.620 not but um anyways that was just uh a quick little quick little thing i want to bring up really quick

00:32:28.180 uh let's go to the next thing though which is the big thing so we have i meant to do this last week

00:32:33.140 but uh scroll up scroll up up up no other way back up so we have ashley st claire here who uh i don't

00:32:42.240 know if you guys some of you are aware she's a uh i was a supposed conservative political commentator

00:32:49.160 primarily on x she gave birth to elon musk's almost a year ago at this point uh i think it was back in may

00:32:59.280 of 2024 so what almost a year ago she gave birth to his was its son new baby into the world uh and

00:33:09.760 she posted this and it went super viral uh and there's an update so but i'm going to give you

00:33:14.880 guys a bit of background for the panel and any viewers who are not privy to it so uh she posted

00:33:21.220 that everyone freaked out on social media there's a whole bunch of uh discourse about it tab over to

00:33:28.220 the next one uh so oh well here's the big thing right okay so um she was essentially she didn't

00:33:37.000 get attention from elon musk on valentine's day the man who has multiple baby mamas and um like 14

00:33:46.340 children and so she went public on twitter on valentine's day or was it the day before i don't

00:33:55.680 know it was valentine's day i think and uh put him on blast and uh let's pull up that clip that

00:34:04.640 thing though because she got a lot of criticism uh pull it back up so she deleted this but she wrote

00:34:10.800 now mind you she's chasing this guy after for like millions of dollars of child support she filed a

00:34:16.720 lawsuit against him scroll down a little just a little more so she wrote back in 2022 kamala can't

00:34:21.660 help herself from bending over for men to get ahead uh scroll back up scroll back up scroll back up

00:34:27.420 and then she deleted the post but we had it um so it's kind of just interesting uh ashley st claire

00:34:33.780 conservative like she was at the prior to this advising to be uh you know traditional relationships

00:34:41.620 are superior blah blah blah but then she like goes and gets knocked up by the world's richest man

00:34:46.620 uh knowing that he's not going to be like the dutiful like gonna take my son to baseball practice like

00:34:55.620 the dude is like involved in the current uh presidential administration and he runs multiple

00:35:03.260 billion billion dollar companies so it's just kind of interesting like uh that like this person

00:35:12.900 espousing like trad values but she's like here's the guy she's going to choose to get knocked up

00:35:18.640 with and now he's he like gave her a tesla he bought like a or he's paying for her like forty

00:35:24.900 thousand dollar manhattan penthouse apartment uh paying millions of dollars in child support pull up

00:35:30.280 the next one uh there's other some other damning some other damning tweets uh i think she writes in

00:35:37.060 december of 2023 i think family court is the most evil institution ever mind you she's currently in

00:35:42.640 family court while she brought it to family court uh with elon musk despite him uh having an informal

00:35:50.100 agreement with her paying her millions of dollars a year in child support and probably other sort of

00:35:56.260 benefits so but she wants more because she's greedy uh next uh there's no sin as cruel as alienating a

00:36:05.580 child from a parent seeing so much of this everywhere so this is relevant because she's filing for sole

00:36:10.740 custody of the child which seems like it would be alienating towards elon musk disregarding the fact

00:36:20.500 that she chose to get knocked up by a man who doesn't seem like he has a lot of time to you know

00:36:27.160 between his 14 other children his five other baby mamas running multiple billion dollar companies and

00:36:33.380 also being involved in the uh administration the government administration next oh and then in

00:36:40.420 that little thing at the beginning she said please respect my privacy the very next day or some days

00:36:45.360 after she does a uh tell all with the new york post which is a uh kind of a almost a tabloid uh

00:36:53.900 so she does a sit down interview in her 40 40 000 per month uh what's it called uh apartment penthouse

00:37:01.640 apartment in new york with some journalists from the new york post kind of like weird that she asked

00:37:06.580 for privacy but then does this next ah okay here we go so here's the update uh scroll up i'm gonna

00:37:13.120 read it so this is from laura loomer laura loomer says gold digger and professional gas lighter

00:37:18.460 ashley st claire was caught on camera outside of her ritzy manhattan uh condo paid for by her sugar

00:37:26.460 daddy elon musk she's selling her a hundred thousand dollar tesla she said was gifted to her

00:37:31.360 by elon musk during their romantic relationship she said she's selling it to make up for the

00:37:36.240 for a hundred thousand in alleged cuts to her child support payments from elon

00:37:40.320 she took a jab at elon musk scroll down telling people to check the tesla stock adding i'm not the

00:37:45.860 only one cleaning up after elon's messes ashley as i reported has hired anti-trump lawyers to sue

00:37:51.840 elon musk he was ordered by the court to take a paternity test so go full screen on that video

00:37:56.840 we're gonna okay and then um go uh sorry go to the video tab that's just one up that's not it should

00:38:03.920 be nine or wait one two maybe three actually video tab three uh no it's just above the window tab

00:38:15.900 so the button for the window tab it's just one above it

00:38:21.780 no now you're you're out of f11

00:38:28.040 it okay here just do this go look at the scenes in obs there's a videos tab

00:38:36.280 no it's scenes do you see where it says window yeah it's videos tab it's right above it just click it

00:38:44.360 no no no no no no no no no no no up just up it yep okay that's it um all right uh full screen the

00:38:52.280 video and then start it from the beginning and then press play i'm selling it because i need to make

00:39:01.660 it up for the 60 percent cut that elon made to or send the child to him

00:39:07.580 why do you think that he did that

00:39:09.580 uh that's a great question for him

00:39:11.580 you feel like he was sort of like vindictive against you in some way

00:39:16.220 uh yeah that's his man's operandi when women uh speak out

00:39:21.580 you can check the stops i am uh i'm not the only one who will be waiting at the race

00:39:44.380 carvana look at that all right

00:39:58.220 all right pause that cool uh so there's a few more things to go over but i do want to get

00:40:06.280 i guess the panel's opinion on this whole thing uh just one quick note though you'll note

00:40:11.600 that uh ashley st claire she's not particularly famous like aside from her having a uh child with

00:40:19.980 elon musk she's not famous so she's asking for privacy in this whole matter she i don't know if

00:40:27.220 you guys know like what the kardashians did or like people in hollywood did when it came to

00:40:31.200 celebrities they call the paparazzi on themselves so this is like a really weird thing for her to do

00:40:36.800 because like there's not paparazzi just like hanging outside her building hoping to get the

00:40:42.760 shot of ashley st claire out in the street she calls the paparazzi on herself and it's like hey

00:40:49.000 come do it but like trying to frame it like it's a paparazzi moment that's kind of weird but so what

00:40:54.220 do you guys think uh of everything and then just also she's getting millions of dollars a year in

00:41:00.060 child support but she needs she she has to sell her tesla to uh because the child support payments

00:41:08.760 aren't enough it's at least the tesla component selling it it's just seems like a kind of vindictive

00:41:14.980 move to try to be like well fuck elon basically but um your thoughts um actually i totally agree

00:41:21.220 with that i think that honestly okay look at like for her to sell the tesla and like calling the like

00:41:26.300 paparazzi's obviously it was just so elon could see it on tv and be like she gave away the fucking

00:41:31.080 car i gave her like and that's really what i think about it because i've actually never heard of her

00:41:35.860 the only baby mama i know of elon's is grimes so yeah she's doing seems very intentional it's yeah

00:41:42.620 100 for money for attention and if 60 of her child support is a hundred thousand dollars babies don't

00:41:52.600 cost that much she doesn't need all that she wants more not for the child but for her sure any thoughts

00:41:58.620 really it's kind of just dumb dumb situation dumb like yeah how's it dumb

00:42:04.540 it's just the whole thing like you got into that situation you should handle it amicably like maybe

00:42:12.560 she has to involve the press to get some sort of reaction from him which i could understand but

00:42:16.480 you understand the press involvement well maybe if he's really just not paying attention i could see

00:42:22.100 why she would go to that length i'm not saying that i agree with it at all i mean you so prior

00:42:28.480 to well there's another there's a lot of like other components to it but um prior to her going public

00:42:33.860 with this it was handled totally privately he was he's a busy guy i'm assuming he was pretty up front

00:42:41.240 like and even if he wasn't up front which i assume he was there's some pretty clear things

00:42:47.760 the fact that he's a billionaire the fact that he's involved in multiple like ceo of multiple

00:42:53.440 companies this is not going to be a guy who's like insanely involved and yeah wait and he's got

00:42:59.460 like four other baby mamas and 14 other kids like i don't think going into that situation as a woman

00:43:05.400 you can reasonably expect that this guy's going to be there every single day like she made a choice

00:43:10.400 yeah she made a choice to be involved with this guy and then now that she's dissatisfied with the

00:43:14.880 choice she's she's she made it's like oh now i'm gonna go public it was a it was being handled

00:43:20.780 privately i think it's terrible in any sort of relationship situation to like ever go to the

00:43:26.640 press or go public with stuff especially when the guy's paying like hundreds of thousands a month

00:43:32.800 millions a year in child support but you think it's justified no i've never said i think it's justified

00:43:38.340 i'm just trying to rationalize why she would do it why she would take that step but frankly i

00:43:43.220 100 agree with what you said okay any thoughts um my take is that this whole dumpster fire could be

00:43:50.520 avoided if people would just stop sleeping with other people that they're not willing to parent a child

00:43:55.920 with um so true yeah true true so uh yeah no basically elon i love that you love babies but you

00:44:05.600 need to chill dude you need to stop you need to be a dad if you're going to make more babies uh you

00:44:10.640 need to be a present father um because that's what our i mean that's what our society pushes this idea

00:44:16.500 of just sleeping around with people and you forget that that creates children um and if you're sleeping

00:44:22.740 with someone you have to take responsibility for the fact that you might be a parent to the child

00:44:26.760 that you create so elon that's for you anything for ashley though no i mean i obviously we don't know

00:44:33.920 everything that's going on the situation i agree that she's probably trying to take advantage of

00:44:38.560 him and making trying to gain popularity from the situation um no also ashley don't sleep with people

00:44:45.420 you're not willing to have a child with and raise a child with oh here's another factor i i forgot

00:44:50.260 uh she she had a kid before so this is baby daddy number two i thought you said she was like a

00:44:56.680 christian conservative commentator alleged not christian i don't think she's christian

00:45:00.820 but she's like what the heck is the word on the street not christian but she's conservative

00:45:06.500 i'm actually she's not about your your position i wonder if you can if you can help me out here

00:45:11.700 you said that elon shouldn't be with this uh ashley because he's not willing to raise

00:45:19.200 a child with her right so he shouldn't be impregnating her well i my my take is basically that

00:45:24.680 you shouldn't sleep around with people unless you're ready to be responsible for the child

00:45:28.820 that you create um potentially being responsible he's not being a present father though i mean he's

00:45:34.660 doing he's doing what's expected i i think that it's not great though i don't think it's a great

00:45:39.400 situation that a child is without um their both of their parents living together with them um and

00:45:46.120 obviously that's not always that's sometimes unavoidable um but no in general i think i mean this

00:45:51.680 whole situation would have been solved if they if he wasn't sleeping with a ton of women i don't

00:45:57.340 know how you can put this on elon musk though right he basically just had oh it's on both of them

00:46:02.080 well it just seems like it's on her to me he just he just ordered a prostitute's womb right

00:46:07.420 i mean that's what he did he ordered it up put a baby in there and then said made a an arrangement

00:46:13.080 for uh money right i mean that's essentially what happened here and that's i mean that's bad both of

00:46:18.700 them should not be doing that why was st claire an afterthought to you and it was directed well

00:46:24.120 because because he has what 14 children now are any of them the same baby mama yeah do we know they

00:46:31.240 are well this is a repeated thing that he continues to do so that's why i addressed it to him specifically

00:46:37.640 yeah but i mean it's not possible so women women are the gatekeepers of sex and they're the gatekeepers

00:46:42.640 of the womb in this particular case what do you mean by that basically well it means that unless

00:46:49.880 you're in some barbaric nation uh you are not i mean you get to choose your sexual partner right

00:46:57.160 you get to choose who impregnates you right and so does he i mean he's like choosing to he's choosing

00:47:02.680 to have sex but absent yeah but right but absent womb right elon musk can't do anything and so the

00:47:08.340 thing well it takes two to create a child he's basically ordering up a womb he's just ordering

00:47:13.260 it up like you would on amazon right he's ordering yeah and that's why i'm saying it's wrong mother

00:47:17.560 yeah and that's awful i hate that what he's doing is right i'm just saying that i don't know why st

00:47:22.320 claire is an afterthought like yeah i guess that's wrong too it's like it seems like to me like the

00:47:26.640 the person who would sell the womb is uh literally setting their child up for failure like so

00:47:32.940 worst form of motherhood i could ever think of you're you're saying that it's mostly her fault

00:47:37.740 yeah no it's both of their faults both of them chose to engage in sexual behaviors with each other

00:47:44.240 both of them took on the risk of creating a child and both of them should have been equally responsible

00:47:48.420 for the child that they create yeah so in this case though they have an arrangement right the

00:47:54.920 arrangement is i'm going to pay x amount of dollars per month on behalf of this child i want to have a

00:48:01.580 child right but i'm not always going to be present for this child that's my end of this contract right

00:48:07.680 that we're about to sign she says sure that sounds like a wonderful contract she signs it he seems like

00:48:15.420 he's keeping up his end of the contract here and she's not keeping up her end of the contract are you

00:48:20.840 saying that i don't know much about the situation are did he intentionally want to have a child with her

00:48:26.200 yes oh i did not know that oh that's messed up no that's still i still think it's equally messed

00:48:31.860 up on both of their parts that both of them how could it be if they both they both enter into this

00:48:37.040 agreement right so they both enter into the agreement and he's keeping up his end of the agreement

00:48:42.480 she's not keeping up her end of the agreement well i mean yeah that i'm talking about specifically the

00:48:47.500 fact that they i'm talking about before all of the drama that's happening now they both were

00:48:54.440 in error to intentionally engage in activities that could create a child and not be as present

00:49:01.820 as a parent both of them as they could be for that child um i mean yeah so the after stuff the stuff

00:49:07.540 that she's doing afterwards yes that is her fault i mean obviously we don't know everything who uh

00:49:11.880 wants to get impregnated by a very rich and powerful man for only the purposes of media cloud

00:49:18.320 relevancy is a pretty horrible fucking person i would say that that person uh is much worse than

00:49:25.760 even the person who's impregnating her especially since he's doing it only from the angle of i want

00:49:30.700 to so it must mind he's saying i want to spread my seed far and wide it's part of his quote mating

00:49:36.260 strategy right that um he has as much offspring as possible so that his genetics live on and he can

00:49:42.120 afford to do so because he's the richest man on planet earth so he essentially rents out these women's

00:49:47.000 uteruses and they prostitute their uteruses out in exchange for money and they sign a contract with

00:49:53.480 them essentially to do so beforehand and it's like it seems to me like women could really guard against

00:50:00.100 this or he could just stop doing this as well like i don't understand like yes it's bad you shouldn't

00:50:06.280 yeah but why is it a problem for like yes there's right he doesn't care like what could you do because

00:50:10.500 there's a child that you have to consider you have to consider that there's this child involved that is

00:50:14.780 going to be without a present father and that is 100 his fault he should not be intentionally

00:50:19.380 creating children that he's not willing to be a responsible parent to so yes their intentions

00:50:24.420 might be different behind why they are trying to have this child and i will agree with you that

00:50:29.860 maybe she did do it to get famous but that doesn't change the fact that both of them were equally in

00:50:34.420 the wrong because both of their decisions equally impact the child in the same way in the fact that

00:50:38.760 the child is not going to have present parents and that they are intentionally creating child to put

00:50:42.380 them in a bad situation so well first of all it couldn't equally be the case because in this case

00:50:47.420 he's he's the one who provides the entirety of the support right not her he does so in in the aspect of

00:50:54.740 the provide role he's at least doing the provide role she's not even accommodating her mother role

00:51:01.080 right she's not even accommodating that right from the outset she makes sure there's not going to be

00:51:05.480 a present father in this kid's life right from the outset yeah i'm not saying that via agreement

00:51:10.740 it's like that's insane to me no i'm not saying that she that she's yeah i'm not saying that now

00:51:16.300 they're equal i'm not saying that oh like she they're equally in the wrong now obviously she's trying

00:51:21.940 to take advantage of him based off of what we've seen um but before all this happened that's my

00:51:26.500 whole point is that all of this could have been avoided if both of them had just not gotten into

00:51:31.560 this terrible agreement to begin with because no matter if she broke the agreement the agreement

00:51:35.140 itself from the beginning was bad and they were both equally wrong to agree on having a child in

00:51:40.740 a situation where the child was not going to have present parents does that make sense yeah i don't

00:51:44.260 i don't disagree with you that both are doing a functionally immoral thing what i'm looking at is

00:51:50.480 who has uh more legitimate irresponsibility or responsibility for the behavior thus far that's

00:51:56.840 what i'm looking at well yeah now currently saint claire saint claire is 100 in the wrong here

00:52:02.520 um and has been from the from from the outset and that at least he's holding up to his contractual

00:52:09.880 end where she's not even doing that right right no i agree with you now that she is definitely like

00:52:15.480 in the wrong it's not doing the right thing i'm talking about from the start this whole thing would

00:52:18.760 have been avoidable if they weren't both idiots with how they're engaging in activities that create

00:52:23.240 children yeah well i mean but there's not there was never any dispute that that's an immoral category

00:52:28.960 right we're just talking about some some people clearly think it isn't it was brought up as though

00:52:33.600 it was saint claire was brought up secondary you're like i'm talking to you elon i'm like what

00:52:38.000 what oh i was i was specifically talking about how the the behaviors that led to this whole situation

00:52:44.080 could have been avoided if both of them did not do that because he clearly does this with many women

00:52:48.400 um so yeah it's a problem all right um any reactions on i feel like you covered quite a bit

00:52:57.040 so i yeah i think that i agree like a lot of this can be avoided if you wait till marriage anybody here

00:53:03.840 it definitely seemed like an attention stunt um whether it was for from like for elon musk directly or

00:53:11.280 for other women to be like oh my gosh you know she's such a victim there's so much wrong that he did

00:53:19.280 and you know okay any anything from you or i think that um ashley sinclair's got a lot of cojones to i

00:53:29.760 don't know to like i mean i'm i'm not in any way in any shape any form near the amount of notoriety that

00:53:38.720 that she is and i i think that i kind of agree with you in a sense where like he needs to be able

00:53:43.360 to raise the kid too he needs to know that when you know the action's happening but um

00:53:49.920 i i i don't know how like i'm scared to even show my new car wrap to people i i don't even like want

00:53:56.240 people to know what kind of car i'm in let alone where my apartment is doing a interview i i don't know

00:54:01.280 that to me but then again i guess everyone has their own comfort with privacy i i guess do you want

00:54:08.240 to be like baby not baby mama number five or six no not after the trajectory you wouldn't do it

00:54:15.120 no he's like okay i'll pay you a hundred thousand dollars he's not gonna be there and i i that's

00:54:19.920 gonna be a tough tough deal for me a thousand dollars a month a hundred grand a month i mean i

00:54:26.480 could live off you could stop you could stop the you know the you have to think about the child i could

00:54:31.520 i there's an innocent child involved yeah but yeah but then yeah like there's a kid with no baby and

00:54:36.880 eventually like i'm gonna try to like the thing is is if he's not there i'm the type that like is

00:54:42.720 like okay well we need to get somebody there father there so then he's gonna be like why are you picking

00:54:48.800 another one uh man to father my son i'm like yeah here man like i don't know like so yeah uh let's uh

00:54:54.640 go back to the window tab oh here i need you to go back to the other tab like the ashley saint

00:55:05.120 claire thing i wanted to finish up on that let me know when you have it uh guys like the video if

00:55:12.880 you're enjoying the stream like the video perfect uh all right by the way brian this is um what this

00:55:20.560 is essentially i've i've always had a theory that i wanted to run by all right about about saint

00:55:25.040 claire and these so i think that there's a lot of women in right-wing media who get very upset because

00:55:31.440 they don't get what they consider to be their due and proper respect at right-wing media from the men

00:55:36.160 and they hatch revenge plots they actually hatch revenge plots in order to get back get these

00:55:42.240 backsies at the right-wingers in these media companies do shit like this ashley saint claire

00:55:47.520 lauren southern i have endless examples of women doing this i wanted to see if what your take was on that

00:55:55.040 uh are these women though you're saying it's conservative women because i don't think ashley

00:56:01.440 saint claire or lauren southern are conservative they might part of conservative they are part of

00:56:06.800 conservative media and at least marketed themselves as being part of conservative media or right-wing

00:56:11.920 media okay sure there's a revenge there's a revenge plot or revenge aspect to it of um of them doing

00:56:20.880 shit like this sure yeah i mean uh i've definitely seen this before you mentioned lauren southern i don't

00:56:26.160 know if you recognize this name sydney watson uh but these women are feminists

00:56:31.360 they're they're feminists they're not particularly conservative um i mean lauren southern slept with

00:56:37.040 destiny right allegedly allegedly that's not that's not alleged anymore oh it's confirmed okay oh yeah

00:56:44.000 um i don't know how do you how are you going to be like a trad conservative republican and

00:56:50.240 fuck blue-haired leftist destiny that's kind of crazy but um and uh yeah i mean she loved him for

00:56:59.120 his brilliant mind ryan yeah but no i mean uh i guess there's been a bunch of uh

00:57:06.240 a bunch of uh uh conservative women fake conservative fake conservative we don't claim

00:57:12.080 that anyone can have to they're falling into lust um oh let's uh let's finish up the uh

00:57:21.840 actually wait but no i mean andrew it is a good point like the vindictiveness yeah that's crazy um i don't

00:57:28.240 even really understand and there's a there's a whole bunch of like stuff we we left out like for

00:57:32.480 example i'll just add one other thing uh ashley st claire her communications between herself and elon

00:57:38.560 musk were done on this app called signal and on signal uh you can't screenshot it or i guess maybe

00:57:44.800 it sends like a notification if you yeah i haven't used it but obviously you can't screenshot on signal and

00:57:50.080 it did the chats disappear after i guess you can set it to a cut 24 hours 12 whatever so he was

00:57:56.080 communicating with her on signal and she was using a secondary phone taking photos of the conversations

00:58:03.600 on signal with elon musk and where it's like there's an implied there's an implied component

00:58:11.840 of these are going to be private conversations we're not going to be and she leaked all of those

00:58:16.720 in her lawsuit she leaked it to the press and that's super despicable um and mind you she didn't release

00:58:23.520 all the conversations she only released the conversations with which tended to i don't even

00:58:28.000 think they really made her look good or uh were exculpatory in any sort of way uh released some of

00:58:34.240 them that kind of made her look a little better made him look a bit more culpable so it's all intentional

00:58:40.400 and she i'm pretty sure she was in the hospital one of these screenshots that she took or a photo

00:58:46.480 that she took from a secondary phone of their private intended to be private communications she took

00:58:52.640 it on the day she gave birth with that's crazy like she's in the hospital she's at least that's

00:58:58.960 what is indicated she's in the hospital bed and she's like plotting against elon musk like even before

00:59:08.560 there was and this is even before there was any sort of conflict uh she was taking screenshots

00:59:14.480 going way back of their communications when things were good and she was trying to get a second

00:59:19.760 kid she wanted another kid from him it's wild there's a bunch of there's so much to it we're

00:59:25.440 not going to get into all of it let's let me just wrap up really quick on this scroll down so laura

00:59:29.920 loomer uh oh i forgot elon no scroll down scroll down elon musk responds to laura loomer where and he

00:59:36.240 says i don't know if the child is mine or not but i'm not against finding out no court order is needed

00:59:41.760 scroll down a bit despite not knowing for sure i've given ashley 2.5 million so far uh and that's

00:59:48.080 the kid's been alive for less than a year and he he's sending her five hundred thousand dollars a

00:59:53.520 year and then scroll down just a little bit she responds elon we asked you to confirm paternity

00:59:58.160 through test before i chat before our child who you named was even born you refused uh hit show more

01:00:05.040 he gave 2.5 million when the paternity was no no no no no no show more

01:00:10.400 okay yeah uh and you weren't sending me money you were sending support for your child that you

01:00:14.960 thought was necessary well yeah that's oh my god this girl oh okay sending me my yes i mean

01:00:20.560 the the mother the mother gets the money uh and then he was also paying for a forty thousand dollar

01:00:26.400 apartment he she got a tesla i think he was paying for her security details so like she was getting

01:00:32.880 the money so i don't know what what that's about until you withdrew most of it to maintain control and

01:00:38.320 punish me for disobedience i don't know what most of it means in this context but but you're really only

01:00:43.920 punishing your son he's claiming he's still paying her he's already paid her 2.5 mil and he's agreed

01:00:50.560 to pay her 500 000 a year i'm sorry she's set for like she could stop working she said yeah yeah

01:00:58.160 just off the child support you don't need 500 000 a year to raise a kid she continues though by saying

01:01:05.120 it's ironic that your last effort in court scroll down scroll down it's ironic that your last effort

01:01:10.480 in court was to try to gag me while you use a social media channel you literally own to distribute

01:01:15.040 derogatory messages about me and our child to the entire world it's all about control with you and

01:01:20.320 everyone can see it america needs you to grow up you petulant man child um and then i'll read this

01:01:26.240 one from laura loomer ashley you don't need three million to raise a baby this is so outrageous that

01:01:31.200 you had sex without birth control you seem to have plotted for many years how to get elon musk to knock

01:01:36.720 you up there's uh just some context here there's some screenshots of her old tweets saying like kind

01:01:42.720 of pointing towards her like there's like pre-meditation when it comes to her like pursuing

01:01:49.760 elon musk and so uh there's some kind of damning uh tweets that she put out a while ago and and also

01:01:57.360 uh messages you're complaining because you want more money for a baby in what world does it cost more

01:02:02.640 than 500 000 a year a year to raise on a baby excuse me guys not to mention you were making over

01:02:08.000 25 000 a month on x payments how does one person need that much money to survive this is an insult

01:02:13.280 to everyone scroll down you're trying to cash out on a billionaire who you baby trapped okay there it

01:02:19.840 is laura loomer doing some pretty good reporting on on all that uh so is anyone actually falling for

01:02:26.480 for her stuff like does is anyone on her side i can't see how anyone could there's there's some

01:02:34.320 there's definitely some but i think a lot of people are like they see through they're kind

01:02:38.720 of like calling her out a little bit there's a lot we don't know too that's true yeah i think we know

01:02:43.520 enough he knows i think that he knew everything he's showed me so showed us so far i can't imagine

01:02:49.200 how anyone could be falling for they must what she's saying and doing they must have done a paternity

01:02:54.480 test or something to confirm the baby was his because 2.5 million just immediately given like

01:03:00.480 that's just a lot like like i feel like he knows like it's solidified it's his and but yeah that's

01:03:06.560 i yeah wow well i don't know i mean they gotta do paternity test they gotta do it might not be his

01:03:14.000 that's a fucking jay springer moment right there um all right well we're gonna move on the baby isn't

01:03:19.040 his like that poor child i know wait what's that the poor kid like obviously it's getting

01:03:24.080 monetary money like just money and stuff and it's probably gonna have some ferrari when it turns 16

01:03:29.040 or whatever but it needs a present father as you stated before i was raised in a very wealthy

01:03:35.120 household but i was very very blessed that my father chose me over work every single day

01:03:40.800 but i mean who's so are you is that that's more so the fault of ashley st claire though yeah no no

01:03:46.400 i'm not saying it's not her fault i actually think it's stupid of her to sue this dude when she's

01:03:50.880 making money and i also feel like it was stupid of them both to have sex okay all right we are

01:03:58.560 going to move on to the next topic it's going to be somewhat related to balancing career and uh family

01:04:06.480 so uh i'm gonna have you pull up that video make it full screen on youtube uh this is a clip of andrew

01:04:13.600 you're gonna put in the video video tab too for this guys perfect uh go ahead and play how do you

01:04:22.400 show respect to your wife yeah oh all sorts of ways i basically give her whatever the hell she wants i

01:04:27.120 adore her but here's the thing the reason that i do this is because if i say this is what ultimately

01:04:32.480 is going to happen that's the last word in it and i don't even want to have the conversation we don't

01:04:36.800 now she may really want to and i can tell sometimes that she really does but i don't

01:04:41.840 care because it's my decision ultimately so you don't care about how she feels i don't know i didn't

01:04:46.320 say i didn't care how she feels i just don't care to have her question my authority autonomy over the

01:04:51.200 marriage was there initial conversation prior to that or is it just like we're doing this don't

01:04:55.040 ask depends on the context i'm saying more for like bigger decisions in life not necessarily like

01:05:00.480 little things even larger decisions if ultimately let's say i went home and i said we're moving to nevada in

01:05:06.160 three weeks get your bags packed and i'm not going to have a thing i don't want to hear a word about

01:05:10.080 it you're doing it and that's the way it's going you think that's respectful w i think that ultimately

01:05:15.040 it's my choice okay and how she shows me respect yeah that's how she shows me respect

01:05:21.200 okay let's get reactions uh starting with you truthfully honestly if he is like paying for

01:05:28.960 everything and she has no job and like she's a like traditional like wife you have no say

01:05:35.040 he found he literally found you he found you a different all sorts of ways wait what highly

01:05:43.600 successful celebrated author who makes a bunch of money oh yeah see yeah yeah yeah just moved to

01:05:48.160 nevada babe it's probably a bigger house just move no no her oh she is oh oh yeah number one in

01:05:56.240 her category i mean at least um she was for a couple of years number one in her category

01:06:05.760 and then you know what i do i take her cash i spend it on guns

01:06:10.240 i just take it right out of her hand take her her royalties it's mine and i go spend it on guns

01:06:15.040 i mean you made it pretty clear in the beginning you give her what she needs and what she wants so i

01:06:19.280 i just like looking at it hold on yeah your thoughts on that um i think relationships are

01:06:27.600 always should be a group discussion but biblically like it makes sense um i agree but i always think

01:06:33.600 that you know some kind of input should be appreciated and i know at least i would want

01:06:37.360 that in my marriage and if that's how it works for you andrew that's great um that's kind of just a

01:06:41.760 personal thing what but what if there's a uh there's just a disagreement and there has been

01:06:50.160 input given from both sides who's the tiebreaker the husband or the wife i guess it depends on the

01:06:59.200 relationship that you're in and how you guys determine that it's a christian biblical relate

01:07:03.360 marriage yeah so what about for yours personally um personally right now i'm not in a relationship

01:07:08.400 but i think wait wait be quiet back there please i really value my future husband's opinion and i

01:07:14.960 definitely take that into consideration but at the same time i think there also needs to be

01:07:18.080 consideration for everybody's health and well-being and thoughts in the relationship and so while i do

01:07:22.560 respect your opinion on that i think there also needs to be you always need to acknowledge people's

01:07:26.720 opinions because that's how you facilitate a healthy relationship whether it's biblical or not

01:07:30.560 um i disagree i think going into the marriage you can take into account if this is going to be a man

01:07:40.800 who's going to take care of you but once that decision is made you're putting things in his hands

01:07:45.600 now for you and even for me um picking a man who you know will take into account your thoughts feelings

01:07:52.800 opinions is important um like he said if there's a disagreement and your input has been given

01:07:59.360 if the man has made a decision you chose him as your husband so i would say you have to submit

01:08:06.720 cool i love that's your opinion that's great

01:08:11.280 okay um andrew i actually uh i i have a question for you andrew on this but i want to get some more

01:08:18.640 feedback from the rest of the guests on this your reaction to the video you're married you're christian

01:08:23.280 yeah your thoughts so andrew i think you're hopefully exaggerating how you would tell your

01:08:30.640 wife to get the bags and pack up and go uh move somewhere no exaggeration no exaggeration well i

01:08:36.160 think you're being a jerk about it then um but so i do agree to be a jerk too you what it's my

01:08:43.280 prerogative to be a jerk too yeah well i don't think that's biblical um but um no i do i mean you're

01:08:49.120 non-denominational who cares what you think is biblical uh no i i'm not a nominational because

01:08:53.760 i follow the bible um so so i do i do agree with you though made it up 300 years ago version of the

01:09:00.240 bible no took books out of the bible but no um no um but no i think that i i do agree with you to an

01:09:07.440 extent i do think that um the bible does place the husband in a role um where he is supposed to have

01:09:13.040 the final authority um but i do think in a help healthy biblical marriage part of a husband loving his

01:09:18.480 wife is getting having a discussion and taking her her her um sorry um um and and taking her and

01:09:28.080 put into consideration while still making that final decision um but no i think just uh ignoring

01:09:35.040 anything she has to say isn't loving i think you should absolutely listen that's not what the clip

01:09:39.200 said what did the clip say clip said didn't say that you ignore everything they say well you said you

01:09:44.400 said the ultimate authority revolves around the man so if it did come down to a situation where

01:09:50.240 i said listen this is going to happen and i'm not looking for objections and i'm not looking for

01:09:55.120 input because this is important you just need to do what i'm telling you to do that's exactly what she

01:09:59.760 needs to do well if there's an obviously like if the house is burning down yes you should if the house

01:10:04.800 is burning down even on a major life decision who is the head of the family biblically who's yeah it's

01:10:09.920 absolutely the husband that doesn't mean that you shouldn't take input i cannot think of a situation

01:10:14.800 where you would not want where you should not take input from all right let's break this down and see

01:10:20.880 if this is correct in a marriage right the body of the church is represented by the woman in the head

01:10:27.280 the christ head is represented by the man jesus christ told you to do something would you do it or

01:10:32.720 would you go you need to take my input first if it was urgent obviously i would do it right then and

01:10:38.480 there like again if the house is burning down and my husband told you so christ told you something

01:10:42.560 to do something can i finish can i finish yeah go ahead so if if my husband says that the house is

01:10:49.840 burning down we need to go now i'm going to get up and go and i'm not going to question that wasn't my

01:10:53.440 question please answer my question here's my i'm not done talking go ahead yeah but you're listen when

01:10:58.560 you if you if you begin to talk to answer a question i didn't ask i am going to cut in and re-ask the

01:11:04.560 question because you're not answering the question i asked you you're just making excuses for talking

01:11:08.400 over me you believe that the woman is the the representation of the body of the church and that

01:11:13.920 the man is a representation of the head which is the christ head as paul lays down uh for his

01:11:20.480 marriage prescription do you believe that that is the case yeah absolutely i think that the husband

01:11:24.080 is supposed to be the head but he should still the man is the head if that is the case if the man is

01:11:29.520 the head and is the reflection of the christ head what situation would you ever be in where you

01:11:35.200 would question christ it's not questioning i'm not questioning christ um but you're supposed to

01:11:41.200 obey the representation of the christ head as paul says submit to your husbands as you would unto the

01:11:48.240 lord and for the record there are times where i i sometimes i think it's it's healthy to talk to god and

01:11:54.800 be like hey i don't know how i feel about this and maybe pray about things and so it's not like always

01:12:01.600 it's okay to ask questions and it's okay to give input like i have a conversation with god um and

01:12:07.520 sometimes i obviously do i follow christ um but that doesn't mean that you can't always provide input

01:12:13.680 and i think that it's healthy in a marriage um for your for a husband to listen to their wife um obviously

01:12:20.560 and not dispute though on disputing that it's that it's healthy or unhealthy for a husband to accept

01:12:25.920 input from his wife we're no i'm not saying you have to accept his authority we're yes exactly we're

01:12:30.560 disputing authority so if it's a case the husband has authority and refuses input from his wife on

01:12:35.920 certain situations he's supposed to have the authority to do so yes or no right no no no i i i

01:12:41.360 absolutely agree he does not have to accept and put he needs to listen he should listen to what she

01:12:46.400 has to say you should absolutely have a conversation about big things obviously if it's an urgent thing

01:12:53.360 it's up to the head it's all it is and at the end of the day yes but i don't think it's truly loving

01:12:58.960 your wife if you are making decisions without because she might have valuable input to add to

01:13:04.480 the conversation that might um might change his decision his final decision perhaps she even does but

01:13:12.960 it's not up to her is it right no i i never said it was up to her all i'm saying is so if it's up to

01:13:18.560 the authority it's up to him and he doesn't want input you would have to back that up by your own

01:13:23.120 logic of saying that's rational reasonable and biblical no absolutely i have continued to say he

01:13:27.760 does not have to necessarily agree with her input but you're you're saying that's why i clarified at

01:13:32.400 the beginning are you exaggerating about going in and telling your wife we're moving in three weeks

01:13:35.600 now let's go um or is he actually are you actually going in and saying hey i think we should move in

01:13:41.520 three weeks what do you think about that and you do not have to listen you do not have to listen to

01:13:47.280 her input but you should be loving to your wife and care about what she thinks that's not not loving

01:13:52.560 listen first of all it's not unloving for you in a position of authority in the head of your household

01:13:58.400 to make unilateral decisions on behalf of the wealth of your family or the health and wealth of your

01:14:03.360 family that is your decision ultimately is the head the representation of the christ head what

01:14:08.160 you're spouting is feminist nonsense you're trying to dispute authority male patriarchal authority within

01:14:14.400 a christian setting by saying this the husband ought to still even in a situation where he is

01:14:20.400 unilaterally as the head of the household deciding what the decision needs to be should still take input

01:14:27.280 from his wife even if he said in this particular case whatever the context is i don't want input

01:14:32.960 it's just necessary that we do this um i have a question if he is the authority if he is truly

01:14:38.640 the authority from your world view you need to respect and obey his authority and submit to it

01:14:44.080 correct i i agree but if you are just if you're making decisions and being a jerk about it and not

01:14:49.760 and not listening in cases obviously again i will reinstate it makes it jerk behavior what makes it

01:14:54.960 because you're you're making a decision and not caring about what she has to say i'm not saying

01:14:58.720 enough to agree that does i don't know what marriage you're in that you do not have discussions

01:15:04.800 about important life events with your wife why you don't care but no that's that's what that was

01:15:10.480 your whole argument is that you were deciding using an extremist argument so what i'm saying is this

01:15:15.440 there can be situations in which you is the authority the ultimate authority autonomy the head of your

01:15:22.080 household the representation of the christ head as who the wife is to obey and submit as she would

01:15:27.680 unto the lord okay can say i do not want any questioning of any kind nor to even have a

01:15:35.120 conversation about this i simply want my will in this for the family executed but what if you're

01:15:39.680 not doing the lord's will hang on your job as a wife is to submit and obey that authority now to say

01:15:45.920 that well husbands there's that they should take input from their wives nobody's disputing that

01:15:51.680 husbands always almost always take input from their wives they almost always discuss decisions uh

01:15:57.280 between themselves and their wives but there could be instances where they choose not to and have

01:16:02.400 valid reasons and it's not for you to concern yourself with those reasons you're it's for you

01:16:08.080 as a uh woman representing the the christian aspect the female aspect the body to submit to his

01:16:15.360 authority that was my christian that was my whole point that there might be valid reasons like it tracking

01:16:20.240 your point like if my husband said there's a fire we need to get out i'm not going to question

01:16:24.800 him i'm going to get up and get out even if i don't see the fire you i'm not talking about an

01:16:29.600 emergency though i'm talking about whatever it is that he is deciding unilaterally is that important

01:16:35.760 that he wants to have zero discussion on your job is to obey what what what are situations where he

01:16:42.560 would not want input okay okay then let's talk then then i well that's the issue is i'm talking about

01:16:49.920 how hey that might be a sign that maybe you're a jerk husband if you're in such because i can't

01:16:54.240 think of any situation it's a sign that you're a controlling wife wants equal authority with your

01:16:58.640 i never said equal authority you are making stuff up decisions to unilaterally lead you when he thinks

01:17:05.200 that he needs to uh control and have authority over whatever the situation is maybe you're just

01:17:10.640 a controlling wife maybe you're a wife who just doesn't trust your husband's leadership maybe

01:17:14.720 you're a bad christian wife who doesn't trust your husband's leadership and won't submit to his

01:17:18.320 authority because if he says unilaterally i have the authority we need to do this and you need to

01:17:23.760 obey then your job is to submit did you uh you wanted to come in so we'll have you come in what if

01:17:31.200 he's not following the lord's will what if he's going directly against what they believe the wife

01:17:35.600 believes is not the lord's will and she's meant to submit to christ before you so who's who's the

01:17:42.400 representation and is inside of the church i don't know about you but inside of the church we have

01:17:48.080 things called bishops priests things like this this has always been the case that a wife could stray

01:17:53.920 away from fulfilling wifely duties or husband husbandly duties based around various aspects of

01:18:00.640 their christian faith when that happens there's a redress of the ecclesiastical authority of the church

01:18:05.840 who often will step in and do things like counseling assist with these problems help them remove

01:18:11.840 themselves from error now secularists always laugh when you say this but what's so hilarious is they

01:18:16.720 demand the exact same thing they demand a governmental seized authority which can step in to assist them

01:18:22.640 with the same types of problems uh marriage counseling psychology uh divorce courts uh child

01:18:30.560 child custody agreements they're asking for the same thing they're asking for an authority to step in

01:18:35.280 and assist with the moderation of problems which may arise in that marriage dynamic christians have the

01:18:40.800 exact same recourse it is it possible that a husband could ask you to do something outside of the realm

01:18:46.160 of reason right in some rare instances sure but you have redress there there's higher authorities that

01:18:52.800 you can move within the church to get redress to know that you're doing the right thing or not now most

01:18:58.000 of the time the likelihood is is that inside of the traditional churches the priest is probably going to

01:19:04.160 say you need to obey your husband and a lot of women are resistant to that that's why in orthodoxy you see

01:19:09.120 such a split between the sexes in catholicism and in protestantism not so much women are the majority

01:19:16.000 but women are the ones who are the most resistant to the idea of the submission to the husband

01:19:21.920 you had something abigail or um i mean i think what he's been saying is pretty well said when we go back

01:19:29.280 to the original video that brought up this discussion they asked him like do you consult your wife or

01:19:35.600 and he said that i mean he even said just now that he doesn't dispute that a man should consult a wife

01:19:45.360 and listen to her opinion but he made it very clear that it's situational and if he says that this is

01:19:51.760 what's going to happen and i don't care to hear questioning then ideally if you chose a good man and you

01:19:58.880 chose to marry this man then if he's if he's not wanting to hear your questioning he's probably got

01:20:05.120 a good reason as to why what would be one of those reasons what would be a reason why you wouldn't

01:20:10.640 your place to question that though right but i'm but i'm talking about how that's an issue on the

01:20:15.760 guys part like hey why are you not willing to hear input from the person that you care about i don't

01:20:20.960 think that's in dispute though yeah he he already said it's situational but yes what situation can i can

01:20:26.800 we even think of a situation where there would not where there would be a reason not well this is

01:20:30.800 the problem right so think of it like you would in the military think that you were in the military

01:20:34.800 for a second and there was a general the general right being a good leader is um you know sometimes

01:20:41.920 that's going to require a discussion with the soldiers who are beneath your chain of command

01:20:45.840 in order for you to make good decisions based around you know the the various executions of what

01:20:51.200 you need to do in the battlefield perhaps in the battlefield things like this but if a general comes in

01:20:55.520 and says i don't really want to hear your opinions execute your your duties and shut your mouth

01:20:59.680 um you really don't have any recourse against that right because he's in authority the question is not

01:21:06.000 this hang on before you before you rebut about whether or not a marriage is this or that we're

01:21:10.640 talking about this from the frame of a christian purview what is the frame in a christian worldview

01:21:15.840 right not from a secularist worldview in which your feelings get hurt and so you get mad and you don't

01:21:20.640 like doing it blah blah blah blah but rather what are your duties to christ and what are your duties

01:21:25.600 to your husband what i'm saying is that whatever the situation is right that you would consider

01:21:31.120 rational or irrational one thing i came up with is he feels the need to move jobs now perhaps

01:21:37.040 he has a type of wife that can instill doubt in him right and he doesn't for this particular case

01:21:42.240 want any sort of doubt she's not a bad person she usually reinforces what he says but

01:21:47.120 maybe this decision he just feels like consulting her for some reason not the best idea it's hit

01:21:53.680 ultimately up to him and his authority and for her to be obedient to his claim of authority that's

01:21:59.680 ultimately what a christian marriage is right but can you think of a situation where that would be

01:22:04.000 necessary that's the thing like i just did he just gave a situation no like i know the whole like

01:22:09.440 and when there's a general and everything in charge but like you're the whole thing that brought

01:22:12.960 this whole up is a situation i gave you a specific situation for moving well no i don't know

01:22:16.960 yeah well i still don't get why you can't like afterwards wait hold on i got one i got one

01:22:24.320 let's take her she was in a relationship with a man i know there was a component of there was a

01:22:29.840 mismatch when it came to uh mismatch when it came to he was a mormon you're non-denominational christian

01:22:37.120 she didn't want to have kids yet she wanted to be boss babe and i asked her well would you continue

01:22:42.400 working if your husband was capable of providing for you and your family and your husband said

01:22:47.360 i don't want you to keep working i'm making enough money to support the family i want you to 100

01:22:53.440 focus i know you want to work i know fulfills you in some way but we're married i'm the husband

01:23:00.320 i don't want you to work i want a hundred percent of your attention on our children and the household

01:23:06.240 and me is that is that a satisfactory example no no because i think you can still have a conversation

01:23:12.000 about that you don't have to listen to what she has to to the input but i think it's still good

01:23:16.800 conversation at all yeah if you're not going to listen

01:23:19.520 the conversation well i think you should i think that's the issue i think you should

01:23:23.120 be open to what you're obviously there are situations where yes it's important to make that

01:23:27.760 decision but so let me ask you usurping authority from the husband though you're listen i want to

01:23:32.400 show you the contradiction your worldview so that you can understand it when you say you the husband

01:23:38.080 who is the leader in the authority in my christian marriage who i have submitted to

01:23:41.840 need to do x you are usurping his very role as the leader you're demanding him to be so when you say

01:23:49.520 you need to accept x input or x thing for me when he says no i do not and in this case this is for the

01:23:55.360 betterment of the household and family it is not for you to question if you usurp that hang on you

01:24:00.800 are in what is called the role of satan right you're usurping the authority from what you call

01:24:06.480 the christ head the not kidding this is the christian worldview the idea that the man is the

01:24:13.040 representation of the christ head in the marriage if you're going against the authority of the christ

01:24:18.080 head what is that other than satanic you tell me i'm not saying i wouldn't listen to him i'm saying

01:24:23.120 that it's healthy to have conversations about things but okay let me let me ask you this hold

01:24:28.160 on i'll get i know you guys are raising your hands i'll get you guys in in just a sec so when you say

01:24:32.960 have a conversation i don't think andrew is disputing that the husband can well hold on hold on the the

01:24:41.280 husband can counsel with his wife get input from her but how many subsequent conversations and

01:24:47.920 disagreements and eventually fights do we need to have before the husband gets his will well it doesn't

01:24:54.000 have to be a fight it can be a conversation but so here let me let me role play this i don't want

01:24:59.360 you to go to work i want you to stay at home with our kids okay we have a conversation okay but but how

01:25:04.640 much do you need to are you going to just nag me until i bend to your will no okay but how many

01:25:10.480 conversations need to take place it depends on the can it be just one is just one conversation okay yeah as

01:25:16.240 long as there's no follow-up needed yeah but so but so what hold on hold on so hold on so what if

01:25:21.920 the determination on my part is i okay cool i heard all your inputs you you made a powerpoint

01:25:29.600 presentation here's why i want to work here's why i want to work i'm going to be able to find i'm

01:25:34.560 going to be happier and it's going to be a financial benefit to the family because i'm going to be making

01:25:39.360 x amount of additional money and we can go to the bahamas but whatever it is and i'm going to listen

01:25:43.840 there and sit there i'm not going to interrupt you you can you can give me your powerpoint

01:25:47.600 presentation for why you should be a boss babe when i want to have kids in the family and want

01:25:52.400 you to stay at home and i can provide i've listened to it wait wait hold on hold on hold on i've listened

01:25:58.560 to it i've listened to it and i'm like thank you for sharing now okay no so i say no yeah what's the next

01:26:09.040 step yeah i would respect that absolutely would you respect that yeah depending on the case i would

01:26:14.800 what what you what do you mean depending on the case if the husband was fully able to provide for

01:26:18.960 my family and there wasn't going to be any detriment to me not working and it would only be a benefit to

01:26:24.160 my children that in that case yes i would what do you mean a detriment to you not working didn't you

01:26:27.920 say there was like some greater calling fulfillment when it came to you there is fulfillment and i think

01:26:32.400 i would find that later on in motherhood where like kids are going to school i could pick

01:26:36.880 that up this is my personal wants it doesn't need to match everybody else in this room but i think

01:26:41.200 that for the time being if it was at the greater benefit my kids me being at home and raising them

01:26:46.000 especially when they're young i would do it so okay how about your husband says this

01:26:50.720 you're married you have three kids and he's like no you're just not gonna work

01:26:58.800 maybe he might be like you know what once they're once they're all out of college

01:27:02.400 how about that are you gonna be happy with that i can't tell you no what you can't tell me no i

01:27:10.240 can't tell you now oh you can't tell me now but i'm i will be marrying a husband who would be willing

01:27:15.440 to have a conversation with me that appreciates you know my thoughts as well and he appreciates your

01:27:20.640 thoughts but like he's like i've heard the powerpoint presentation for why you want to be a boss

01:27:24.880 babe i i i appreciate your thoughts but my decision is no what then then that's fine we can make an

01:27:33.920 agreement on it if it's a better greater benefit like i said before to me being at home with the

01:27:38.880 kids if the house is taken care of financials are good and that's great everybody can live a happy life

01:27:44.320 healthy food in the home able to live a positive you know and no it's that's negotiations yeah

01:27:50.080 that's the opposite of submission is negotiation something is is like let me get let me give you

01:27:55.280 a like a very clear-cut example something that maybe uh nobody can dispute women often due to

01:28:02.400 hormonal regulation become extremely irrational especially when they get very close to certain

01:28:06.960 situations or decision making right and sometimes right due to that irrationality i think it's perfectly

01:28:13.920 acceptable for a husband to do things like say you're fucking irrational you're overly hormonal you need to

01:28:19.760 shut up and go away or walk away from this situation that's exactly what you need to do

01:28:24.160 and you need to go somewhere calm down and you don't get a say you don't get a say what's wrong

01:28:29.280 with that can somebody tell me what's actually wrong with that are you going to all pretend

01:28:33.360 that women don't have trouble with regulation extremely disrespectful and the way you phrase

01:28:37.680 that is in a way that's totally not okay and i won't even give you an answer to that question i

01:28:41.600 think it's so ridiculously phrased yeah it doesn't seem ridiculous to me it seems like the

01:28:45.600 irrationality needs to be contended with somehow go ahead go ahead okay so here i would be like

01:28:50.960 all right so i lived 10 years of my life out of a bag anyway so i wouldn't care about moving even if

01:28:57.760 it was to timbuktu i don't care but i would be like all right partner while i pack while i pack all

01:29:03.440 of our stuff i want to know i want to know what's what's going on well why are we moving but i'm packing

01:29:08.560 all of our stuff i will do all of it just tell me right now as i okay all right and you had something

01:29:12.960 okay so you want to object to your wife going to a leader of your church and saying hey i disagree

01:29:18.000 with my husband on this and the church leader happens to agree with her well it depends on

01:29:23.920 the context if she's going to the church in order to give them idle gossip or uh things like this or

01:29:30.480 you know talk about um interpersonal context that's not if she's going to the church in other words for

01:29:37.040 and saying to them there's something here which is not following christianity and that needs

01:29:42.800 to be dealt with then yes the ecclesiastical authority is designed specifically to assist

01:29:47.920 with that just like uh in the secular world she smiles as though this isn't true in the secular

01:29:53.920 world do you want would you want your uh husband to go to a psychologist in order to like gossip

01:29:59.440 about you and run you down and things like that no i don't want him only to go to a psychologist for

01:30:04.160 the purposes of trying to assist with some type of a marriage where one one partner or the other

01:30:09.360 thought they were being completely unreasonable or you know outlandish or doing something that they

01:30:14.480 weren't supposed to be doing the same exact thing would be uh happening under a christian view the

01:30:19.040 idea would be you're not going there to bark about your home problems but you're going there to get

01:30:24.480 assistance for things that would step outside of the christian view one person i am christian just so

01:30:29.920 we're clear you're a Mormon and i'm not going to i'm okay well i will okay no you're not i am for my

01:30:37.440 view you're not for my view you're not but that's fine the thing is like that's fine i'm just saying

01:30:42.000 that even inside of the lds church this is the case even inside of the the church of latter-day saints

01:30:49.200 that you have people that you can go to who assist in marriages who assist even in arrangement of

01:30:54.160 marriages by the way you can go to people oh yeah they do they just don't do it like the church

01:31:00.640 doesn't go i'm picking you and picking you but what happens is the women of the church do matchmaking

01:31:05.360 and they do all sorts of different things with their daughters and their friends and things like

01:31:09.280 this the same thing by the way that women do even outside of churches they play matchmaker all the time

01:31:14.000 uh secular inside a church whatever but the point here is is that that authority still even

01:31:20.640 acts inside of your church for you to go for redress if a partner is doing something that

01:31:25.520 you consider to be external to the christian faith doesn't it okay i just wanted to clarify that so

01:31:30.800 she does have an option if she does object and doesn't agree if that makes sense well you know well

01:31:38.320 hang on again that's not correct right this is context dependent yeah like i don't agree that my

01:31:44.720 husband says i have to do the dishes on sunday it's not what you're going to a priest for

01:31:48.960 you'd be going to the priest for something like my husband's listening to satanic music in the

01:31:53.520 garage and it's very concerning to me uh something like that something which would be stepping outside

01:31:59.120 of the christian view not to question his autonomy authority over his household that's not what their

01:32:04.640 job is or the ecclesiastical authority's job is now there could be extra marital things which they

01:32:10.320 could or i'm sorry marital things which they can assist with uh specific counseling things like this

01:32:15.600 which catholics and orthodox have made available for years and years and years which does assist

01:32:20.480 with things like who does the dishes on sunday or whatever that is right uh but generally speaking

01:32:27.280 you're not going to them for those types of things you're going to them for issues of the spirit

01:32:32.880 all right a couple chats coming through here we have lucas lucas says is it me or is it the

01:32:37.680 obstinance and programming with this generation of gals beyond intractable it seems that they're willing

01:32:42.960 to forego high caliber men for the sake of their boss babe ideology to which he continues in this

01:32:49.840 upcoming message thank you lucas for the message he continues by saying chair two you are a pretty

01:32:56.960 a pretty and appear to be a wholesome girl i assure you very few high earning high virtue men will accept

01:33:04.240 any pushback on outsourcing the raising of their kids for me it was a non-starter

01:33:10.080 any response there you said you had like 12 nannies or something growing up yeah just through

01:33:17.760 the years through the years are you are your parents still together or yeah very much so okay

01:33:22.320 very happy happy family lots of kids yeah okay um

01:33:29.120 so you do you want to have nannies like for your kids or um i wouldn't mind if the situation had to

01:33:34.960 permit it's something i'm totally let's just how about how about this situation let's assume he earns

01:33:39.680 enough money for you to be able to stay home but he doesn't earn enough money for you to be able to

01:33:44.400 have a nanny uh are you fine with that um it's if i was staying home yeah you're taking care of the

01:33:54.800 kids right exactly part of the time in that case i would have a nanny i don't need a nanny just for fun

01:34:00.000 just to go out shopping like that would be dumb but if let's say you did meet a guy who was okay with

01:34:06.080 you like working whatever he was fine with it it wasn't i'm sure you'll there's plenty of men who

01:34:10.560 are not gonna be as uh as hard line on some of these uh components uh but uh you said you'd want

01:34:20.160 to work like part-time right okay so maybe you work like 20 hours a week so you have the nanny

01:34:26.080 20 hours a week or something like that uh wouldn't you say though that even then that

01:34:33.680 that time would be better spent with you like the kids would be better spent with you versus some

01:34:38.800 stranger i mean it would it would obviously always be preferable to be with me their mother over an

01:34:45.360 outside person sure i'm just saying if the situation came down to it and i had to be working

01:34:50.640 or if it was more advantageous for our family as a whole we had a reasonable discussion about it

01:34:55.120 here's the pros here's the cons i'm seeing a little bit more pro not even 20 hours but i could

01:34:59.680 see some benefit to me still working yeah i was thinking about this the other day when it came to

01:35:04.080 daycare or having nannies or whatever and the the cost of daycare is so exorbitant at least well i guess

01:35:12.640 it depends where you live here in california for example you're going to spend for one child

01:35:17.840 between two thousand and three thousand dollars for uh for one child maybe they give you discounts if you

01:35:23.280 you have two kids i don't know the details but let's say for two kids it's going to cost you five

01:35:27.280 thousand dollars and i'm thinking like okay that's sixty thousand dollars a year um say the wife makes

01:35:33.280 seventy thousand dollars like some maybe she makes sixty thousand dollars a year that doesn't the math

01:35:39.040 just doesn't make sense to me for a woman to make sixty thousand dollars a year and push all that money

01:35:45.440 to a daycare when she could just stay at home now i understand that women can well and these numbers are

01:35:50.640 highly charitable sure and they i think the average salary in the u.s for a woman's forty thousand

01:35:55.600 forty thousand sure and so if you look at the average daycare cost it's the average is at least

01:36:00.640 ten thousand the average is at least ten thousand yearly oh yearly okay i was talking in california

01:36:07.440 per month for daycare 20 it's two two to three thousand dollars a month so you're looking at well

01:36:13.920 the california average is 19 i think last 19 okay 18 000 a year on average yeah so so even if you have

01:36:20.880 the offset of an extra ten thousand dollars because of the inflationary cost of living so starbucks pays

01:36:26.640 there let's say 20 an hour instead of 15 it's still eating up in the daycare costs yeah you're really

01:36:31.680 only getting an extra 20 000 a year after taxes if you're lucky right it's like what what are we doing

01:36:37.280 here it seems and and even even if the even if your wife is out earning whatever it is that the cost

01:36:45.440 of daycare is there is still the i i just think it's always optimal to have the mother taking care

01:36:53.680 of the kids okay cool you're you make instead of outsourcing to consuela not to mention the amount

01:36:59.520 of abuse that we see inside of this uh these various programs oh yeah the mother's definitely

01:37:04.160 yeah the mother's definitely gonna take because i've heard some horror stories from like some of

01:37:08.800 these daycares you know they don't change the diapers as often as they should um there there's

01:37:14.000 like a bunch of kids the kids are constantly getting sick because they're they're they're all the germs and

01:37:19.360 everything and um you know i think the kid is going to do the best when it's the mom solely exclusively

01:37:27.360 uh taking care of the kid not daycare not nannies uh so i don't know that's my thought even if she's

01:37:35.120 making 100 000 a year i still you know and you know let's say the date uh for you have two kids

01:37:41.040 she's making 100 000 a year she's got to put the kids in daycare that costs 50 000 she's left with 50

01:37:47.920 000 also you know i was thinking about this the other day it's really it's actually a big leap of faith

01:37:52.720 when you think about it um you wouldn't just hand your kid to some stranger you just met and say hey

01:37:57.840 watch my kid for eight hours in a day but you put a lot of stock in the fact that the state inspects

01:38:03.760 these daycares even though that's a joke right it's like they can hide all sorts of things from

01:38:08.960 the state and often do it's like it's a huge leap of faith to even go down that path to begin with just

01:38:15.680 to hand your kid over to somebody else to watch for hours and hours and hours of their day who knows what

01:38:20.880 they're filling their head with who knows what's going on there it just seems like a terrible idea

01:38:24.640 ultimately yeah we have some chats coming in here we got john smith john smith sorry for the delays

01:38:29.200 guys sorry for the delays the bear versus man convo proves women are horrible at risk assessment

01:38:35.200 and they can't decide what they want for dinner yet men should value their input on decisions

01:38:40.560 or do you just want to feel heard who uh who picked a bear show of hands who picked a bear for the

01:38:47.040 man or bear bear wait you picked a bear yeah you picked a bear yeah i thought you were oh she's

01:38:54.160 okay she she rage quit before the show wait i thought you said you so you'd rather encounter

01:38:59.440 a random bear no i would rather encounter a man oh okay sorry oh yeah okay so wait

01:39:07.040 john smith yeah john smith thank you so much man appreciate it um all right we have joseph

01:39:12.080 pascual thank you man appreciate it two hundred dollars brian and andrew good to see you thank

01:39:19.600 you man all these women sitting here wearing too much makeup and trying to argue with andrew

01:39:24.480 too much and yet chariot is the only one i would dm brian hook me up already abigail uh she's married

01:39:32.000 she's married man she's oh show the ring yeah flex the ring again oh shit beyonce single lady

01:39:39.440 all right uh yeah sorry man um maybe there's another girl at the pen we got some single we

01:39:44.960 got some there you go um we have jason cassel thank you man jason cassel donated two hundred dollars

01:39:53.280 appreciate it man this is feminism people all the women on the panel claim mean to be christian

01:39:58.640 you can't be a christian and be a feminist at the same time feminism is antithetical to christianity

01:40:05.440 feminism is evil oh okay well going around the table jason cassel thank you so much for the uh

01:40:10.080 tts really appreciate it are you do you consider yourself a feminist no not really yeah no no depends

01:40:17.040 on how you define it but no okay no i would say yes but then if i was asked by a feminist sometimes

01:40:24.560 they don't think sex workers can be feminist so it depends yeah okay what do they i'm anti-feminism

01:40:30.000 anti-feminist okay same here anti-feminist yeah anti-feminism anti-feminist um all right we'll come

01:40:35.280 back to the feminist conversation can i ask a quick question sure i was just for for chair three what do

01:40:42.160 you think i i want to know this uh what what do you think submission means what does that mean to you

01:40:47.760 submission like listening to your husband like yeah respecting your husband respecting their final

01:40:53.040 decision making um i mean obviously it depends on the situation but um typically trusting their

01:41:00.240 decision making then you're deciding when to be submissive and ultimately you're not being submissive

01:41:05.520 what do you mean well hang on hang on before before you get into it i just want to make sure that

01:41:10.240 because i think it's a fair a fair criticism that you know if you're not defining terms

01:41:14.160 do you think that submission means obey uh yeah yeah i do yeah okay and uh obedience

01:41:23.440 yeah submission yeah okay okay so then uh why would you i guess following that line of reason

01:41:31.440 would it be submissive or non-submissive to question your husband's authority on a major decision

01:41:38.560 well it's it's not that i wouldn't listen it's that i would want to have a conversation about it and i

01:41:42.400 think most decisions can like i don't think they're and obviously there's some situations that we

01:41:47.600 addressed that there does need to be an urgent decision that should be made by the husband i

01:41:51.440 think most decisions most major life decisions can be talked about before they're they're decided i

01:41:57.360 agree they i agree they can be what i'm asking you to reconcile is your definition of submission being

01:42:02.560 also obedience obeying trusting doing and reconciling that with the idea that there needs to be x to

01:42:11.760 placate you if there's even a major decision which happens can you tell me how that fits your

01:42:17.040 definition of submission what sorry what do you mean by that like you're asking what your question

01:42:22.160 if you question the authority of your husband by demanding conversation with something he doesn't

01:42:26.240 want to converse about rather wants you to be obedient in how does that form to your version of

01:42:31.600 submission how's that you being submissive i i wouldn't necessarily question and and demand a

01:42:38.480 conversation i think just in general it could be a problematic if a guy is not seeking discussions

01:42:46.880 with his wife though because the the initial example that was brought up at the very beginning

01:42:50.960 in the clip was you're moving in three weeks and you'd come in and you say that i don't know why you

01:42:57.200 could not immediately have after have a discussion hey how are you feeling about this instead of coming

01:43:02.000 in and just throwing it on perhaps well you perhaps you can but the idea here isn't what can or you can

01:43:08.640 or can't do the idea here is what is submission what is not yeah um is it actually submission if he

01:43:14.880 says listen i know that you probably have all sorts of protests here but i don't want to hear them i want

01:43:20.480 you to do instead execute and obey what it is that i'm expressing to you that i want done to obey my will

01:43:26.560 is are you then submitting or not submitting by saying no we need to stop stop right now and have

01:43:32.400 a conversation about this i'm not saying i would stop and say hey let's have a conversation i might

01:43:36.560 want to and you can submit to your husband and i can also still think that he should have a conversation

01:43:42.320 with me about these things yeah you can you can say that you think that he should but the idea there

01:43:48.000 in the clip then when you had a criticism you just countered the criticism because you said no i'm not

01:43:53.920 saying that i would actually question it that is submission and that is exactly what i express

01:43:58.640 submission is obedience right yeah no i'm saying i i would i would absolutely submit to that but no

01:44:04.240 my my issue is this idea that guys should not be just making decisions sorry i know you want to talk

01:44:11.760 um as uh as a person who doesn't care what they have to say all the time i don't think that there's

01:44:17.520 decisions where that's obviously there are some but in general that's not necessary so i'm just

01:44:22.080 pointing out that if a guy is is doing this on things that can be talked about that that's an

01:44:27.360 issue well then that's countering the trust that women should have and faith in men no i again is

01:44:33.040 that inside of a christian marriage you're supposed to have trust and faith that your husband's leading

01:44:37.840 you correctly and trust and faith in his authority when you say things like this like no he needs to

01:44:43.920 stop and have a conversation with you he needs to justify it to you he needs to make arguments to you

01:44:48.160 for it things like this you're actually countering the view it's actually what it what it does is it

01:44:53.440 inverts it it inverts the view of what submission is actually supposed to be which obedience to your

01:44:58.960 husband it's really inside the christian view at the purview of the man to make these decisions and

01:45:05.600 that i think women should be reinforcing who are christian women they should be reinforcing that idea

01:45:10.400 of trust in your husband trust in your husband trust in your husband and they don't instead

01:45:16.560 they resist submission at every level because they think it's mean they just quote mean you

01:45:21.760 know it's like that to me is absurd i have a question for you andrew so a question is is it

01:45:28.400 submission if like let's say you know you're like oh we're gonna move to the husband goes oh

01:45:33.520 we're gonna move to nevada in three months and then the woman's like okay i'm gonna pack both of

01:45:38.080 our stuff now i just need you to tell me like why as i'm packing i don't need like i'm gonna do it

01:45:43.040 either way i just need to know the reason is that cool is that submission well actually this is a

01:45:48.080 great question i understand yeah yeah let me i'm doing it to make sure yeah let me repeat it back

01:45:54.560 so he says look we're moving in just a couple of weeks right you need to pack everything up i'm doing

01:46:00.880 it okay i'm packing it up honey right now tell me why we're doing this again yeah right got it so

01:46:07.840 here's the thing let's say you do ask that question he says no why is it legal stuff no

01:46:13.840 no don't say no just say he says no what is your role in the christian view he said you say can you

01:46:22.880 tell me why and he says no i would be scared if it was was it legal like if it's another woman i don't

01:46:30.560 care we'll pack up and leave i don't whatever like he points out he looks at you and he says no it's not

01:46:34.320 legal oh there you go then then i'm like okay like then whatever okay if it's not legal then

01:46:38.800 cool we're not like skipping town you know yeah okay so then you're gonna okay if it's not legal

01:46:43.040 then whatever like i don't care i've lived out of a bag for like a 10 years anyways yeah yeah i got it

01:46:47.280 but what i'm saying is that within the purview of submission right is that the fact that you even

01:46:51.360 had to ask him if it was legal is also moving against your idea of trust really no way in the

01:46:58.240 authority of your husband well then wait wait question question question i got a question for you

01:47:01.600 what if we what if i like pre-planned like it you know in in advance in a sense where i was like

01:47:07.360 hey on a date with him you know before we were even married and i was like hey if you ever needed to

01:47:13.760 skip town it can you just let me know my rule my rule is to let me know is it legal involved if it's

01:47:21.040 legal involved then so you mean you set down some boundaries that you had with before i even get

01:47:27.920 married yeah early on yes right do you expect him to adhere to the boundaries that you i would

01:47:33.440 hope so yeah because i'm gonna hear it all mine oh oh that's not submission what no way right come

01:47:40.000 on it's earlier submission in but can he just tell me if it's legal or not the mission is the

01:47:47.120 obedience to your husband i know but what about the law obedience to the listen i'm gonna i'm gonna

01:47:52.720 try to explain this the best way i can inside the christian view even if pre-marriage you had some

01:47:59.520 discussion about whatever it was right so here's what is put on the man's shoulders in the christian

01:48:05.440 view the he's he's to put his life before the lives of his wife and before the lives of his children

01:48:12.720 he's to accept all danger they get the lifeboat right he doesn't get the lifeboat he stays behind

01:48:18.880 right if they're marooned on a desert island he's the one who gets eaten and not them okay if there's

01:48:24.480 any sort of defense of the nation which comes up his duty and obligation is to go and take care of that

01:48:30.640 problem by the way these are not the only duties that they have that's just some but starting the

01:48:36.480 starting level of security at the home starts with the husband and the head who is the husband

01:48:41.040 he if they are providing those duties and providing those resources inside the home as they're

01:48:48.480 supposed to do inside of the christian view right their wife's job is to submit to the authority if

01:48:56.080 he's holding up his end right his end of the authority here you're supposed to be holding up

01:49:01.120 his end of the authority period okay well we'll go quick question that last one um so what if we made

01:49:07.280 this thing where i was like okay if we ever need to skip town move whatever could i just be like

01:49:12.800 this and then if you do this then i know it's not legal so i'm not an accomplice like you can put in

01:49:20.000 the request for any high sign that you would want okay i'll just be like this and if he goes like this

01:49:24.240 i'm like listen you can put in a request but that's the opposite of submission to me

01:49:28.720 what man that he obeys your authority a husband is not obligated to obey the authority of their

01:49:35.440 wife the opposite is the case i just went like this and i you know legal like it's

01:49:40.400 this but what if they respond with this you know right even if it was legal i'd be like cool do i

01:49:47.680 get a lawyer like like you know to help us i gave you my high sign right i would i would want to know if

01:49:53.360 it was like if it was legal it's fine i'll just get a lawyer that's fine i just want to know do i make the

01:49:57.360 call you don't have any trust or faith in your house i do i do a trust i just want to know if

01:50:01.840 it's legal if you have trust then then trust uh why that makes so much sense because the idea here

01:50:09.520 is that if the man is taking the head the christ head here okay right the same way you're supposed

01:50:15.200 to trust and have faith in christ is the same way you're supposed to trust in him so i'm gonna assume

01:50:19.120 it's not legal yes okay you're supposed to yes okay i just thought immediate trust yeah

01:50:26.720 as long as i'm legal i'm cool i don't care i can live anywhere think about how easy it'd be too to

01:50:30.640 trust in a man who's taking on the role of dying for you like you're like correct like your husband

01:50:36.480 is supposed to love you as christ of the church and christ has died for you um so i think it'd be

01:50:41.600 really really really easy to take in that submission role and take on that submission

01:50:44.800 role when you know that he loves you enough to die for you yeah i'm cool but he knows that i'm

01:50:49.360 gonna do this at one point wait i do have going around the table on that note the man being willing to

01:50:54.240 die should your boyfriend say you've been dating for a year uh should your husband be willing to

01:51:00.960 die for like take the bullet for you yeah yeah yeah yeah yes yeah yeah yeah yes yeah only if he wants

01:51:08.960 to because yeah okay quick answer willing to yes willing to yes yes yes yes okay um and then if a guy

01:51:18.000 wasn't willing to like what's your response like if he's like nah i'm not doing it then why are we

01:51:24.080 dating what why are we dating okay he's got to give his life he's obviously not fulfilling that role

01:51:28.800 not fulfilling that role no i think like as christians we should be willing to take the

01:51:32.880 bullet like i'm willing to take a bullet for most people like i i think that it's pretty selfish but in

01:51:38.240 this situation it sounded you said man the man should take the bullet yeah i mean i think everyone

01:51:43.360 should like i would take a bullet for my husband too yeah me too yeah i would yeah yeah yeah but like

01:51:49.600 that's actually beating up your own biblical role right so the idea here is the reason the reason

01:51:55.280 of course andrew's mad at me for wanting to die for my husband look i'm not i'm not i'm not even

01:51:59.040 trying to be i'm beating up the ideology not you personally i just the things that you're saying

01:52:03.760 here don't make any sense even from the christian role that would be incorrect he should step in

01:52:09.760 for all threats towards his family that is his ultimate duty unto not only fulfill to his family

01:52:16.480 but under god he's supposed to you don't have to yeah but i want to and here's why you shouldn't and

01:52:22.320 i think we should even hang on here's why you shouldn't even because the idea is you're a caretaker

01:52:27.280 for the children this kind of thing right these roles are set for a specific reason right but all of

01:52:34.080 this usually comes down to just a paltry excuse for egalitarianism and refusal to submit to your

01:52:40.880 husband's authority and so you come up with all sorts of crazy mental gymnastics to try to justify

01:52:46.800 egalitarianism why we need to be more equal why the husband and wife need to have a fair shake

01:52:51.600 against each other no the christian view submission of the wife to the husband husband leads and is in

01:52:58.960 authority just look that way okay um wait i had to follow up on this what i guess my confusion is

01:53:11.040 there was a lot of pushback on this whole oh the man like you don't you don't want to be submissive

01:53:18.480 to your husband but you'd want him to die for you like does that seem like a fair like the least a man

01:53:27.200 can get i suppose a christian man can get is if he's willing to die for you if he's going to

01:53:32.000 provide if he's going to protect should at least obey him that's a way better that's like way better

01:53:40.240 trade-off i just have to obey you have to die shit if if somebody gave me the choice y'all none of y'all

01:53:46.800 gonna date me after this if i have to obey some if the choice is okay brian you gotta obey somebody

01:53:52.560 or you die i think i'd rather obey somebody now i'm gonna get called a beta male whatever fine i

01:53:58.320 accept i accept the beta male title i will survive and whatever uh i think the woman should take the

01:54:04.320 bullet because i'm better suited to you know after uh breast feeding i'm better capable maybe breast

01:54:12.560 like breastfeeding the women are better at can you milk a man i don't know they're actually doing

01:54:18.640 like breastfeeding that there's like there's not naturally males do males do lactate yeah or

01:54:24.400 males do lactate yes you can milk a man wow that is like do like that's drugs for it but it was a big

01:54:31.280 to do because there was a group of the teas who oh lump themselves full in fact of various hormones so

01:54:39.760 that they could lactate more and there was a big controversy over what the quality was of what they

01:54:46.880 were putting out there and when it was scientifically tested it was not good yeah interesting sugar yeah

01:54:54.160 um i don't know man i just think shit sorry if the guy's got to take a bullet for you

01:55:03.040 it's a fair trade-off you gotta you gotta listen to what he says you gotta listen to him somebody in

01:55:07.600 your chat said man milk that's so gross oh my gosh that sounds like a an actual drink we have uh we have

01:55:14.960 some chats here on youtube side we need to get through oh andrew uh this is rachel wilson's

01:55:19.440 wife maybe we need a little cameo if she's feeling up to it um andrew listens to me often but what's

01:55:25.200 best for him is what's best for me therefore in situations where he doesn't want my input he isn't

01:55:30.880 obligated obedience to your husband husband is obedience to god well put rachel this is interesting

01:55:38.160 because i never seen this type of dynamic so to me it's like i'm looking at it through a bush like

01:55:42.400 just kind of peeking around like oh this is cool like you know i never heard of this stuff before

01:55:46.160 yeah yeah that's that is uh andrew's wife rachel uh we have beaten slave my slave andrew's andrew's

01:55:54.320 slave yes uh beaten cheeks here specifically to the stove she's not she is allowed to come out on

01:56:01.200 tuesdays and wednesdays for sunlight you know i'm a very is she a vampire or or not because of the

01:56:07.440 sunlight never mind okay yeah i give her some sunlight come on yeah of course uh bean cheeks i love how

01:56:12.160 these boss babes parentheses feminists want a simp not a man being a boss babe is not only

01:56:18.160 unchristian like but against the christian patriarchal view of maintaining a healthy family dynamic why

01:56:23.280 would you feminists want another person to watch over your kids does anybody want to do a response

01:56:27.760 to beaten cheeks morgan do you want sorry did i it's not maddie my bad right maddie's sorry i got

01:56:36.720 the m's got me all fucked up maddie my apologies i feel like we've talked about this a lot of times

01:56:42.400 um doesn't need to be recapped again but yeah it was i think you know the situation it would benefit

01:56:50.960 the kids to be at home i didn't need to work in any sense of the word i would stay at home and work

01:56:55.440 i've said that okay your people people are gonna have different opinions on that and that is 100%

01:57:01.040 okay with me boss babe it is wait sorry boss babe it is what do you mean they can call me that it's

01:57:06.560 great oh okay all right he follows up by saying i will ask the famous andrew question if men are

01:57:12.160 supposed to be providers and protectors to not only their family but to provide society something

01:57:16.560 significant as their duty what duties do women bring what do you women bring to the table are you

01:57:24.320 virgins if not actually this is a this is a fantastic question brought up by beaten cheeks so he's asking

01:57:31.680 this and maybe we can go around the panel on this if it is the case that men's job in society is to

01:57:38.960 procure resources so think of it from a bird's eye view the whole world's a bunch of warring tribes which

01:57:44.080 is exactly what it is between different nations countries things like this if it's the men's job

01:57:49.360 to procure resources refine resources distribute resources and it is their job to defend the nation

01:57:57.280 and defend the social security inside of the nation so the security of all people what is the equal role

01:58:03.120 that women have in society to that that's his question it's a good question for the panel yeah while

01:58:09.280 we start uh we'll start on this side what do you think um i don't know to be honest

01:58:13.920 i believe like from the dawn of time we're we're gatherers they're hunters we're supposed to just

01:58:19.520 be at home and i i mean i love traditional wives i actually abigail respect i want your life i want the

01:58:27.280 life um honestly yeah because once i get married and i have kids i truly believe because i chose that

01:58:33.520 man and i already know his mindset enough to like choose him so i need to trust him because obviously

01:58:38.560 that's why i chose him i would not just get with the man that i did not trust so i mean i mean yeah

01:58:44.320 blinds eye view like i would just kind of respect him all the way because i got to know him before

01:58:49.760 we did before we married hang on hang on chair one um what about to the question though what is the

01:58:54.720 equal responsibility to society that is to society account for men the equal responsibility that women have

01:59:03.200 to that responsibility they laid out that men have what is the equal one that women have

01:59:10.080 i guess just keeping the home keeping the home keeping the kids keeping everything stable on that

01:59:15.040 side all right let's get somebody else go ahead and what about you um i would say it's nurturing

01:59:20.240 raising a family um teaching kids good principles good morals teaching them about the bible i think that's

01:59:26.320 really important um as well as provide not providing sorry you won't blame me like cooking

01:59:32.560 taking care of the home as well but overall just ensuring the well-being of husband kids and the

01:59:37.280 home um but men have to match up to that life as well and i feel like that's also something in

01:59:42.720 modern day that we do not see a lot and so okay in a perfect world it's easy to talk about here's

01:59:48.720 the line let's divide it but it's not always that way uh no i agree with you guys that motherhood is

01:59:54.560 absolutely an amazing gift and something that is obviously essential to society obviously not every

02:00:00.000 woman though is called to be mother some women never get married and that doesn't mean that they

02:00:05.200 are less valuable to society um and so you can absolutely still provide amazing value to the world

02:00:13.760 um as a as not a mother but i do agree that um motherhood is a amazing thing amazing gift

02:00:19.920 so motherhood would be what you would say would be the equal the equal responsibility on women

02:00:25.200 to the the responsibility socially that men have well i think that women who aren't married or don't

02:00:32.800 like or just don't have kids yet i still think that they are they have a responsibility to give value to

02:00:38.240 the world in other ways what are those ways i'm curious like just like for instance my job right now

02:00:43.600 is working full-time in the pro-life movement um and i think that's something that is i've i've been called

02:00:49.040 into that's still based around motherhood though wait i have a quick question on that if your husband

02:00:54.400 said hey this advocacy that you're doing is fantastic but like you want to have kids right

02:01:02.400 yeah okay and he said well once you start having kids gotta cut that out i love i'm hey i'm a pro pro-life

02:01:10.080 husband whatever but your work in that organization must cease do you listen to him i would if he absolutely

02:01:18.160 like made that decision but no my husband uh supports me continuing my work when we do have

02:01:24.240 kids because i love what i do and it's great well that's important work yeah sure um i think that

02:01:33.680 women are like i believe that you're supposed to live as you're not going to get married and because

02:01:37.920 some people aren't called to be married and so i'm going to live in that way but then let's say i do get

02:01:43.600 married yeah hang on i just i'm really sorry to cut you off i don't need to do this the only reason

02:01:49.280 i'm doing it is because i'm this is a very specific question which is not tailored to you individually

02:01:56.320 as people as the person so i'm not asking you oh i see what you're saying okay yeah i'm so i'm going

02:02:02.080 to repeat the question men's job in society is to procure resources refine resources distribute resources

02:02:11.920 every single job skill that you look at will provide this for you right 95 percent 96 percent in many

02:02:20.400 cases 97 percent uh things like electricians things like oil rig operators things like construction

02:02:27.920 workers right the people and people who go out and actually procure resources all basically all men

02:02:33.600 almost all of them this seems to be what their social and societal role is that is the case they are

02:02:39.680 to protect society and provide resources on behalf of women and children in society what is the equal

02:02:47.600 social duty that women have to that i think caretakers and nurturers whether that's in their communities

02:02:54.480 and the people that they're around in their churches and then for those men okay quick answers if we can um

02:03:02.720 um like i i mean i guess i i didn't really grow up in a nuclear family so i i don't really like i'm

02:03:10.720 just i you know this has nothing to do with you okay yeah prescriptively what do you think socially

02:03:17.440 women i i guess they they could i did babysit when i was younger so i would say that yeah i guess they

02:03:23.600 could nurture the my mom yeah it has nothing to do with me so never mind that wouldn't that wouldn't

02:03:29.120 pertain but uh okay yeah so mother show again back back to motherhood nurturing okay yeah yeah i would

02:03:35.440 agree um having kids and making sure that they're raised properly with the good moral um moral foundation

02:03:43.200 and then that also educated properly because the education system is next yeah um providing relief and

02:03:50.320 nurturing and stuff um i just we prepare them next yeah well said i think an ideal society has

02:03:58.240 nuclear families everywhere so fostering a nuclear family raising your daughter up and the way that we

02:04:04.400 have described women need to be and raising your son up in the way that you described men need to be

02:04:08.480 would be so then we essentially have universal agreement almost on this panel that the social obligation

02:04:14.480 for women is based around motherhood and raising the next generation of children

02:04:19.920 in some way participating towards that that seems to be the social obligation that you universally agree

02:04:24.960 on however here's the problem in all western nations and almost all nations in fact but the west

02:04:32.480 particularly we we're not at reproductive rates to replace our society at all we are under replacement

02:04:40.160 across the board which means that women are failing in this social duty of both reproduction

02:04:46.800 and the assistance towards the ends of reproduction which by the way all of you on this panel agreed

02:04:53.440 is the social equal of what men are providing for you however men are upholding their end which is the

02:05:02.160 procurement refinement distribution of resources and protection of society so i want so my the question

02:05:08.320 boils down to this since this is the case what do you think should be done that's not based around

02:05:15.200 um well actually we'll just make it easy what do you think should be done so that women go back

02:05:21.360 to this idea of role of reproduction in society in this social role of being matrons and raising the

02:05:28.880 next generation since you think that's the social duty go ahead uh so i actually had a video i don't

02:05:34.480 know if you've seen this interview ever but you know you too bono is very political and he he did an interview

02:05:40.800 i think a couple years ago and it said uh america is a very young country and it hasn't developed its um

02:05:47.680 structure quite yet and i i don't know if i'm saying that correctly but this interview is online

02:05:52.800 and he talks about how america is so young that it's going to eventually within the next like hundred

02:05:59.040 years develop its you know that type of a structure like it's family structure it's political like

02:06:05.440 it each country is every country this uh this issue the reproduction issue is in the entirety of

02:06:12.720 all western nations regardless of age of the united states though right united states all of them

02:06:19.040 including the united states okay do you but there's other nations which are which okay so have been

02:06:23.760 longer the united states my understanding is the united states it's actually the oldest current

02:06:28.880 established nation with its original established uh found foundational constitution it's the oldest

02:06:34.960 one that exists currently i see the pilgrim vibes other back now other nations other nations which

02:06:40.480 you could argue are china or like england or the uk things like this sure but they suffer from the

02:06:46.320 same reproduction crisis really they i know japan yeah and all all of them i think i think there's a

02:06:52.960 there's just um i mean i have a personal opinion about japan in a sense where i feel like there's a lot

02:06:57.600 of shame um in you know for the man to carry uh a lot of the you know the how do i say it um

02:07:05.840 financial and and responsibilities and if anything happens then you know it's dishonored to him and

02:07:12.960 how do you assist so so why won't women fulfill their social roles why won't women fulfill their

02:07:19.040 social roles yeah their social roles of reproducing having the next generation and assisting with that

02:07:24.720 which is what all you agreed is the social role that women have if men are going to be providing

02:07:30.960 all this for them i think there's a communication issue like between not not between like me and

02:07:35.120 you or anything but there's a communication issue between men and women like i think that like and

02:07:39.040 this is just i've taken you know polls from my own life and also you know other situations and

02:07:45.360 scenarios that i've heard of and seen just over the course of my 32 years i think that like the

02:07:49.920 problem is is like the whole ghosting thing that shouldn't even happen that's going to kill a

02:07:53.920 culture same thing with cancel culture that's going to kill a culture you know you gotta if you don't

02:07:58.240 want to talk to somebody no more you need to tell them why unless it was a super violent reason you can

02:08:03.120 bail sure but you got to tell them why so then they can at least utilize that reason for the next person

02:08:07.680 like you know why are you gonna like hoard that information from them and so it's men's fault

02:08:13.520 no it's both both faults they both the cancel culture needs to stop and so does ghosting both

02:08:19.840 of them that's going to kill that's killing culture how is that going to assist with the reproduction

02:08:23.600 uh because then people will be more honest like hey i didn't really like you because you know you're

02:08:27.040 kind of hairy or you're kind of like you're kind of masculine or something can you know and then and

02:08:30.960 then i would remember that stuff because mostly dudes would just ghost me and then never tell me what

02:08:35.040 was wrong and all of a sudden 10 years later when i change they hit me up and then they want to be

02:08:39.440 with me and i'm like what okay so what was wrong with me oh it was just uh i don't know and i'm

02:08:44.320 like no you tell me what was wrong with me and you should have told me then so i could have utilized

02:08:49.280 that information and used it in my next relationship no no no no it's men's fault in my scenario but i'm

02:08:55.760 sure um i'm sure i mean for me as of in the recent like at least because i had a problem with ghosting

02:09:02.560 for a very long time so i always told people this was just something in my my mechanisms that i used

02:09:08.080 myself in the past seven years i always told people why i stopped talking to them absolutely

02:09:13.520 hundred percent so you think that the reproduction crisis will be solved if people stopped it would

02:09:18.480 be helped it wouldn't be solved but it would be helped because then people could figure out what

02:09:22.720 was actually wrong with them according to other people as opposed to people just being like oh i'm

02:09:27.440 gonna bail out whatever like you know i'll just find anyone and it's like no like tell somebody

02:09:31.600 what's wrong so they can fix the problem and if they're going to do it with you they're

02:09:34.960 gonna do it with the next person okay fair enough yeah chair one what do you what do you think we'll

02:09:38.800 go around real quick what if if the social obligation is of women to reproduce and assist

02:09:44.480 with reproduction which all of you agreed is their role why do you think they're failing in that

02:09:48.800 obligation honestly i'm super agreeing honestly if there was give me one second okay chair two bro

02:09:58.160 i wouldn't say this is something that like specifically comes down to like traditional

02:10:01.680 women aren't doing their jobs i feel like it's it's a problem all over the world in countries

02:10:06.640 in some countries a lot worse than the u.s um i think a lot of it comes down to economic stability a

02:10:11.120 lot of families don't feel comfortable with being able to provide for a large amount of kids college

02:10:15.920 tuition is expensive um while i do believe i mean people people want that yeah i think everybody wants

02:10:22.800 that um they just want to have a sense of security or have have more kids than the rich and the middle

02:10:27.760 class than if it's about money i think that's a question for perhaps you sure no i actually agree

02:10:36.400 that it's not just it's not a failure of of women necessarily because it takes two to create a child

02:10:41.840 women women themselves cannot go and create a child on their own um and like obviously as someone who

02:10:47.760 works in pro-life activism financial instability is a primary reason why people are getting abortions a

02:10:52.880 lot another reason is oftentimes um the baby's father doesn't want to want a child a lot of the

02:10:58.960 women i've worked with seeking abortions are there because the baby's father is dragging them there

02:11:03.600 because men aren't willing to be responsible fathers either so it's it's both it's men and

02:11:07.520 women i think that definitely our culture compensated for abortions yearly it wouldn't

02:11:11.920 solve the reproduction crisis not even close sorry what'd you say even if you were to compensate

02:11:18.400 for the abortions yearly it still would not solve the reproduction crisis right i mean it would help

02:11:24.080 but no i think the reasons people are getting abortion would help yeah it's the same reasons

02:11:28.720 though is financial instability and p and i also do think there's a is a problem with people don't

02:11:34.640 value motherhood and um feminism or what people consider feminism now i guess what modern feminism has

02:11:40.960 become is telling women that motherhood is less of an important role um than being a ceo or

02:11:48.080 whatever and that's not true motherhood is one of the most i mean what incentive do men have to

02:11:51.360 marry women who won't submit though and on top of that here's here's here's what actually here's what

02:11:57.360 actually causes it the reproduction crisis there's actually just really one major correlation which

02:12:03.040 causes it is that women take their reproductive years their 20s which is their primary reproductive years

02:12:10.720 and they go to college in their 20s and they don't start having families until they're about on average now

02:12:16.640 in the u.s 28 years old before they start but a lot of them are starting in their 30s most marriages

02:12:22.800 now are starting in their 30s because of this women have less children significantly less children so

02:12:28.720 actually it seems to me that if you wanted to solve the problem of having your entire nation uh

02:12:34.240 completely replaced by immigrants or people who aren't from your nation that the way that you could

02:12:38.960 solve this is by having some sort of propaganda campaign at the national level to glorify the family and not

02:12:45.760 to glorify women going to college which seems to be a complete and total waste of what women's

02:12:52.080 social obligation is which is having children and bringing up the next generation of society

02:12:57.440 andrew i have a question so what do you think about parents like because they exist out there i'm

02:13:02.000 just gonna say they exist seen them what do you think about parents that don't want their kids to

02:13:06.000 have kids that they just want to be the parent forever they don't ever want to be a grandparent

02:13:09.440 they don't ever want the identity of a grandparent they don't ever want to get old what do you

02:13:13.040 think about those parents because there are those parents out there uh well hold on i'd actually

02:13:16.880 prefer if the panel responds to okay andrew's point that he just it's no it's okay um maybe later we

02:13:22.800 can get into it here was the here was the point if you stave off in their 20s if women were to stave

02:13:28.480 off in their 20s and here's how we know this because we can look at reproduction rates especially

02:13:33.520 since the 1800s where they've been dropping like a rock right and we can see that when women were

02:13:39.840 getting married younger we were having many more children because of multiple reasons primary one

02:13:44.960 is they have more childbearing years the second is the children tend to be much healthier three

02:13:50.480 the mother tends to be able to recover much better so any woman will tell you who's had a child in

02:13:55.040 their 20s that it was a breeze in comparison to when they had one in their 30s or especially in their

02:14:00.880 40s right which is like they can be god-awful on their body at that point so it seems that what

02:14:06.800 we're doing is we're taking the smartest women who should be at home raising the next generation

02:14:12.160 and telling them instead that they should be going to college and sacrificing their childbearing years

02:14:18.480 in order to get a job which by the way the types of jobs that they're getting there's basically only

02:14:23.920 three categories none of them are getting jobs instead so to delay my psychology and and they're

02:14:29.600 getting degrees in nursing and they're getting degrees in sociology that's mainly what they're getting

02:14:34.960 degrees in they're basically not doing anything stem wise and they're half half of them or more

02:14:40.160 don't even work in the very fields they got a degree in so this seems backwards to me right

02:14:45.440 doesn't that yeah everybody would you just see that it's just they're afraid of the the older

02:14:50.240 generations afraid of aging

02:14:54.560 what do you mean like they're afraid of aging they don't ever want to be a grandparent so they don't

02:14:58.000 tell their kids stop kids you mean in these isolated i'm not familiar with this phenomenon

02:15:03.520 wait what i think it's very common wait you never heard a very common phenomenon that grand that

02:15:10.320 you know older parents are telling their children not to have children oh there's i'm sure there's

02:15:14.800 some anti-natalists out there who do that but they're called anti-natalists wait yeah oh anti-natalists

02:15:21.040 are people who don't want other people to have children but really oh okay okay thank you i didn't

02:15:26.160 know so anyway yeah back to the point though um they say that's what it seems like so um so shouldn't we

02:15:32.640 do that shouldn't we try to defer women from going to college and instead to move younger

02:15:38.160 towards marriage if you wanted to actually solve this issue not necessarily i think that you can

02:15:44.640 still go to college and be a mom at the same time i think that's important that um i mean that's a

02:15:49.760 common thing that i will agree with you society pushes on women that you can't be a mother and and

02:15:53.920 you can't have a career and be a mother you can't be a mother and be successful being a mother is success

02:15:58.240 in itself um but you can still do both i do think in general though there's a push for people to go

02:16:02.560 to college and my generation definitely is going to college just because they're expected to and i

02:16:07.840 don't think that's just a women thing i think that's in general like people just go to college when they

02:16:11.680 don't know what to do with their life um my idea here in society is that if the social push for women

02:16:18.640 right for for them to actually do the same what their duty is to society which you agree is

02:16:25.360 reproduction the assistance towards reproduction right that's what you guys universally agreed

02:16:30.080 is the social duty of women well not always that's the case typically even the cases where

02:16:35.040 they can't where women can't have children just like in the cases where men can't defend the nation

02:16:40.000 or are unable to defend their families due to physical ailments we still would be pushing society

02:16:45.120 towards a role that men and women did do this so we don't take the outliers and then make policy

02:16:49.760 based on the outliers that's what makes them outliers yep so the thing is is like if that is the

02:16:55.120 case wouldn't you want the the kind of top down rhetoric from your leadership like even tp usa or

02:17:02.960 even you know the president of the united states on down to be to women not to waste their childbearing

02:17:10.320 years in school but instead take their childbearing years and move into the idea of husband and family

02:17:17.680 that would solve that would actually solve the reproduction crisis that that would solve it done

02:17:22.640 yeah that solves the immigration issue of having to pump in millions of immigrants that solves the

02:17:29.440 issue uh i mean it just solves it outright doesn't seem like a good idea right yeah i and i mean people

02:17:39.360 can go to college and work and have children but they don't obviously because we have an issue

02:17:45.360 and why i mean but think about it it makes sense why they do you're gonna you're gonna go to class

02:17:51.200 for like you know eight hours a day you're doing homework you're studying you're focusing on career

02:17:57.120 you're doing all these different things of course having a child when you're a sophomore in college

02:18:02.000 is going to put a significant demand on your time and stop your whole college career outright so

02:18:09.280 i i actually have some anecdotal and maybe the the viewers in the chat can weigh in on this andrew

02:18:15.200 when i was when i was myself in college trying to date and stuff the amount of times i would get

02:18:22.080 and hey look maybe they just weren't feeling it but the amount of times i would get like oh hey you

02:18:27.680 want to grab dinner oh i've got a test i got to study i'm busy i i got it i got a midterm got a final

02:18:37.440 the that came up all the time when i was dating when i was like more college age and uh

02:18:45.360 though a lot of those fizzled out and maybe they just weren't feeling it whatever but there's a lot

02:18:49.600 of women who are like in some pretty intensive uh programs especially if it's in certain stem fields

02:18:55.280 like fucking biochem that's that's you gotta study that's not that's not a that's not a

02:19:01.680 sociology class biochem like those are difficult classes and so uh uh there is like maybe that

02:19:09.120 component maybe men have encountered this with dating it's like and then you get a job then you're

02:19:12.800 working nine to five you're tired all this sort of stuff and so uh yeah i have a question sure um

02:19:19.520 andrew what it was what would your advice be to an 18 year old girl who is wants to do that she

02:19:26.160 wants to be a mother at the age of 20 21 but um she has to provide for herself like her parents like

02:19:33.520 i'm kicking you out of the house at 18 and you can either go to college or you can get a job and move

02:19:38.560 out and like get your own apartment and there's some women too like the bible doesn't say that every

02:19:42.640 single person is going to find somebody to marry and have children and so we are put in a position where

02:19:48.000 okay i'm going to have to live like i'm not going to get married and if god so happens to put that

02:19:52.720 person in my life and i do get married i'm happy to hop into that role of submission and be the wife

02:19:56.960 and the nurturing mother that god's called me to be but what do you say to the 18 year old who's like

02:20:01.200 what do i do like you remember the parable of the talents what help me recall yeah the parable of the

02:20:09.280 talents is uh it's a it's a parable laid down which essentially is expressing that you should use

02:20:14.880 your talents on behalf of god jesus christ right that is essentially what it boils down to there's

02:20:20.080 more to it but for the sake of time we'll just say that essentially is what it boils down to

02:20:25.440 what i have noticed and noted is that women seem to have absolutely no problem toggling uh working

02:20:33.440 and then going to college part-time so that they can get a degree they can seem to be laser focused on

02:20:38.880 career if necessary but when it comes to being laser focused on marriage they seem to kind of let

02:20:44.640 that go by the wayside and i hear a lot of the god cope which says hey right i'm just waiting for god

02:20:51.520 to put the right man in front of me well how about you use your god-given talents and find the right

02:20:56.240 damn man there's tons of them out there and focus like a laser like you would on school and college and

02:21:02.160 this type of thing instead of utilizing the cope of like one day i hope that god will magic down

02:21:08.880 the correct man for me it's like look you have talents and as christ expressed these talents are

02:21:15.040 supposed to be utilized on behalf of god one of the talents that women seem to really have and

02:21:19.760 universally have is being able to find a man who can provide for them they even in modernity seem to

02:21:26.160 still have that talent so well what would you say to the verse he who finds a wife finds a good thing

02:21:31.120 not she who finds a husband finds a good thing like i think the man is the it takes on the that role of

02:21:36.400 pursuit over the woman and i i i like yeah i believe what i've noticed i hear i agree with you that man

02:21:42.480 men take on the pursuit role but i have noticed that when women want to be pursued by certain men

02:21:49.360 they let it be known totally they drop the handkerchief situations where they're going to

02:21:54.160 encounter him again or they put themselves in situations where they drop subtle hits to their friends

02:21:59.840 they seem to put it out there that they're wanting this man to pursue them right they don't seem to

02:22:05.360 have any trouble with that social dynamic so what do you think like i'm going to all the right things

02:22:09.680 i'm involved in a bible study i'm involved in my church i'm involved serving here and going to all

02:22:15.200 these places where i would meet this man and then like he's up it's up to him to pursue once i like you

02:22:20.640 know drop some hints here and there i'm not going to take on that role of pursuit and saying that i want

02:22:24.880 you and i want you to provide it for me and i want to do those things like that takes on a very

02:22:28.240 masculine role so what would you say to that is that wrong let me ask you a question okay um are

02:22:35.120 you part of the lds as well i'm not i'm christian just non-denominational non-denominational okay so

02:22:42.080 you're non-denominational so you have a vast pool here of uh men to choose from at least in the regards of

02:22:49.280 um of your faith so other faiths the reason i ask this is there's some phase where look you can't

02:22:54.800 even date outside of that faith right orthodoxy is one you're not allowed to marry somebody who's not

02:23:00.800 an orthodox okay so that's that's why i asked this question uh but for you right if if women spend as

02:23:07.200 much time being laser focused on getting a good husband as they do with other pursuits they would

02:23:12.720 tend to get probably a pretty good husband but you can't expect that he's going to be magicked up you

02:23:18.560 also have to do your part like women have always done by the way they used to always uh put themselves

02:23:24.720 out there looking for courtship from different men and men will pursue how do you think that looks

02:23:29.680 never going to have a trouble trouble with men pursuing them that's not a problem that's not

02:23:34.640 nip do they have what is it's the minute it is a problem it is a problem for a lot of women pool is a

02:23:39.920 lot yeah yeah let's find out if it's a problem for a lot of women if uh if there was men right now

02:23:46.400 let's just say there was a man random man in the room who was equal age with each one of you and

02:23:51.120 you guys opened up your dms how many dms do you guys get compared to that man that say hi beautiful

02:23:58.080 hello gorgeous oh girl i saw you on such and such and you were amazing oh my god you're you know what's

02:24:04.720 up hottie how many of those do you guys go ahead raise your hand if you get those dms come on don't

02:24:09.440 lie to me raise your hands if you get those dms uh-huh uh-huh and let me tell you how many of

02:24:14.480 those dms i get and i'm a i'm a fairly well-known pretty famous at this point podcaster but you're

02:24:21.520 married a couple a couple but okay but the guy's dming dming she's married she's married and gets

02:24:31.440 them oh wait married and gets them other women are married and get them what are you talking about so

02:24:35.840 the thing is it's like very few very few and i have many advantages huge advantages other men don't

02:24:42.880 have so the thing is it's like the pursuit is not an issue for women that's insane right they get

02:24:48.560 pursued endlessly it's who's the right man and you know the uh the kind of pickiness factor right this

02:24:54.960 and that i think that women unfortunately the older we've i mean as society's gone on we've gotten

02:25:00.000 pickier men have gotten pickier i think that when you have countless people at your disposal

02:25:04.960 with tinder and hinge and instagram you are less satisfied with the option that you're given

02:25:11.280 however the dms that i'm getting are very rarely a high caliber man that i would be open to going in

02:25:17.760 on a date with i've saved myself i'd expect him to i don't expect him to save himself but i expect him

02:25:22.640 to have those same moral standings and beliefs that i do and very rarely the guys in my dms are that

02:25:28.720 and so no i'm not going to allow how did you say you were i'm 22 yeah you're 22 right so yeah if you

02:25:35.600 if you pursue rigorously pursue finding a man who has the caliber of qualities that you're after in

02:25:42.160 this case good foundational christian ethics and you have reasonable standards when it comes to things

02:25:46.720 like income height and look nobody's asking you to date somebody you're not attracted to that's

02:25:51.520 basically an impossibility for most people nobody's saying that you should do that though i do think

02:25:56.560 contraction can grow over time between two people uh but overall i would say that if you keep your

02:26:02.400 standards within the confines of reason just remember that young men at your age they have

02:26:09.200 potential right you're looking for the potential for what they can do when they're in their 30s and 40s

02:26:14.080 most men your age are going to be broke as shit they're going to be broke right they're going to be

02:26:18.400 fucking working a job that's somewhat menial right and it's after they engage in family that they grow

02:26:25.440 into that role by the way right so it's not fine you know as long as he has the grounding foundational

02:26:30.800 ethics um that you that you're that you're after the christian ethics a lot of that stuff grows

02:26:36.240 post-marriage and post-family it's these standards is so so high though for a lot of women where they're

02:26:43.120 like oh he's got to make a hundred thousand dollars a year and it's like at 23 he can make a hundred

02:26:48.720 thousand dollars a year at 23 or 24 25 what are your that's for men in their 30s what what are your standards

02:26:55.840 yeah what are you looking for in the guy um i am looking for number one a guy who fears the lord

02:27:03.200 and loves the lord with his whole heart i think that a lot flows from that um i'm looking for a guy

02:27:08.560 who's ambitious and has goals and is a doer and he says what he's going to do i think that there's a

02:27:14.320 lot of i mean i would love to follow after a man that his word means something and i see it in action

02:27:20.480 and um i think that honestly a lot flows from both of those i think that a character and a guy if he

02:27:28.240 really is honoring the lord and wants to honor the lord and all that he's doing i mean i would respect

02:27:32.720 the heck out of him i would submit to him for sure like but there's very it's very rare that i come

02:27:36.720 across men like that that i really respect are there any things looks wise like he's got to be yeah

02:27:42.400 like i've got to be attracted to him but i think that changes okay i think that totally changes i also

02:27:46.960 think that that's so fleeting oh my gosh like i mean if i'm gonna choose dating a guy who's six

02:27:52.160 foot over maybe his character i think that's incredibly stupid and i'm probably not ready

02:27:55.760 for marriage so i mean it's like i think that i'd rather much rather choose man's character over

02:28:03.440 the way he looks when i'm approaching trouble with our kids when i'm approaching trouble in our

02:28:07.120 finances and the things that we're going to experience on this earth and his six foot brown

02:28:12.320 hair blue-eyed look is really not going to hold up when we're under the weight of the world and so

02:28:16.960 i'm going to marry character over that any day of the week but i also think it's tough because you

02:28:21.200 do need to be attracted god wants us to be attracted to our partners sure like it's going to be hard to

02:28:24.960 have a nice sex life when you're you know like oof i don't know if i you know like reproduce with

02:28:29.120 people yeah totally they can feel it too that makes sense right it makes sense it's hard to reproduce

02:28:34.800 with people you don't want to have sex with it totally is a fundamental part of relationship dynamics

02:28:40.400 i'm not disputing that that's the case but here's the thing right if it is the case that a lot of

02:28:45.280 women um if they if they want to have those resources for families when they're younger it used to be

02:28:50.800 very commonplace for women who are in their 20s early 20s to marry men who are in their 30s men in

02:28:56.320 their 30s still very attractive and end up having a lot more resources things like this but what's

02:29:02.320 happened as a modern phenomenon is women get really upset about the idea of age gaps they get super

02:29:07.360 pissed about it um because we're not i'm not scared um yeah that's not a problem i was always

02:29:12.720 chasing the age gap when i was younger so i understand they get upset about it because

02:29:17.760 it's competition for them within their age tier right there's always a younger more beautiful woman

02:29:22.000 so they get mad about that right but one thing you could do inside of the tier you know if you're

02:29:26.560 looking for that now and you think that women men in their 20s are just playboys look for men in

02:29:30.720 their 30s who are more grounded and established those guys probably will do a lot more taking care of you

02:29:35.920 much more ready to settle down and you know here's the thing this may be uh shocking but as it turns

02:29:43.120 out men in their 30s really really like to have sex with young hot women isn't that crazy right and

02:29:48.720 they also enjoy marrying them so it's like it's not it's not crazy for women to be seeking outside of

02:29:54.720 that age bracket okay we have a couple uh chats we need to uh get to we have you missed her she was

02:30:01.760 asking a question oh sorry my one concern with the age gap and i know this is weird but simply

02:30:07.280 put i don't want a man who's been promiscuous in the past and i feel like that happens a lot with

02:30:11.200 the age gap and i also don't want a man that's going to die a lot sooner than me because when i'm 80

02:30:16.000 i need someone to still protect me yeah but but but the age gap argument nobody is saying you need to

02:30:23.200 that's what you have sons for so the thing is is like that's and by the way again the church has

02:30:28.560 looked at this problem every which way i'm when i say the church in the orthodox church here's the

02:30:33.440 truth the truth is is that you're making what's called deferment it is true that those men may die

02:30:39.520 uh before you die right perhaps even 20 years before but you have sons your sons are going to

02:30:44.240 protect you by the way the the old saying goes even bad men love their mamas that means that

02:30:49.360 even if it is the case that uh that you raise hooligan sons even they you know what i mean ain't

02:30:56.080 gonna let nothing happen to mama that's the way that works you can't count on having

02:31:00.880 what's that you can't count on having sons though like that's not like that's not a guarantee

02:31:05.680 yeah if you have if you're a person who plans on having five six children

02:31:10.080 right you get started young i think that you being able to count on having a son or two

02:31:14.640 is pretty high it's significantly high but let's just say that you don't you still have brothers

02:31:18.800 you still have cousins you stop other members of family those people will also step in for that

02:31:23.360 protectorate role if your husband dies early also matrons in society have less to fear in that

02:31:28.160 regard if if they if your daughters for instance they're married now you have uh sons-in-law they're

02:31:34.960 also going to help out mother-in-law right the idea here is that you're creating a a grounded

02:31:41.440 foundation for family that's the whole point and so it's like it seems absurd to me because the other

02:31:47.120 thing is you can defer resources so you can make the argument he could he'll be a father for less time

02:31:52.080 by the time kids are 18 you've spent 90 of all the time you're ever going to spend with 90 of the

02:31:57.200 time so if that's the case then that means you're just deferring resources and saying but

02:32:01.600 they could also give them a way better life within the confines of those 18 years can you address

02:32:05.760 the promiscuity thing i said though because i do not want a man who is promiscuous shouldn't be

02:32:09.600 promiscuous yeah that's true but here's the thing i'm i'm just going to be blunt with you

02:32:14.640 most women care far less about former male promiscuity than men care about women's no i i agree with

02:32:20.480 that i agree with there there's an ad and here's the reason for that the reason for that is based

02:32:25.440 around uh knowing who your offspring is so for women the virtue of chastity and the reason so

02:32:32.640 ingrained in men is because we before there was paternity tests which are a recent advent we needed

02:32:38.000 to know who who was having our children right if they were sleeping with multiple men you didn't know

02:32:44.080 if it was your child or not and so that's why we're hardwired against it we loathe it we think it's

02:32:48.640 gross with you know the whole nine yards however the phenomenon is the opposite oftentimes women if

02:32:55.040 a man is a virgin in their 30s will think he's weird or sick or has a problem or he's a red flag

02:33:01.520 because why won't women sleep with him if he's in his 30s and is staying a virgin there's actually

02:33:06.640 incentives in society for men to sleep with women um that aren't uh aren't there in reverse except for

02:33:13.120 peer pressure of women so i think it's it's actually uh i i wouldn't look at this just my

02:33:18.800 opinion but i wouldn't look at the virtue of the man uh having slept with a with um you know i don't

02:33:25.360 know like five six seven uh former women even uh i think that uh that's going to ultimately be less

02:33:32.320 important in that dynamic than in the opposition i know that sounds counterintuitive no i agree think

02:33:37.280 about it though no i agree with you okay oh wait just to be clear are so uh you're you're a virgin

02:33:44.160 right yeah i'm a virgin and so are you wanting only to date a guy who's a virgin it would be preferable

02:33:52.320 and typically members in my church do wait for marriage but if it if i meet the right guy um

02:33:57.120 standards change and stuff based off of the person based off of their virtues and everything just got it

02:34:03.520 yeah i mean i think with the age gap thing it's not i don't think when it comes to age gaps the

02:34:09.280 argument there isn't if you're a young woman you should or have to date older men it's just more so

02:34:17.760 countering like oh this is predatory on the man's part to want to date a younger adult woman okay or

02:34:25.440 explaining reasons for it but did you think it was weird i had a 62 year old swipe up on me on a

02:34:31.200 dating app would you think that's weird just wondering uh swiping on you on a dating app i

02:34:36.160 mean no i don't yeah yeah and you're how old are you you're 21 i'm 21 that's i mean it's a big it's

02:34:41.520 a big age gap i don't think that that's uh i don't think it's weird that he's attracted yeah

02:34:47.760 attracted to you pretty i i don't think it's weird that he's attracted to you but like the likelihood

02:34:54.000 that you're going to be attracted to him or that that's like if you want to date him i don't have

02:35:00.080 a problem with it but probably trying to give it a shot he probably tried it's a big it's a big age

02:35:08.000 gap yeah i was just wondering where the line is to chair for there was something else that came to mind

02:35:12.960 as i was kind of replaying your conversation or in my head here when you said that you're a member

02:35:17.120 of a non-denominational church so i went and pulled up some stats i have the advantage of doing that try

02:35:21.440 not to when we're discussing because you guys don't have that same advantage but i did want to pull this

02:35:26.000 up it does turn out that it looks like uh non-denominational churches are about 70 percent

02:35:31.920 female 70 so here's a suggestion take it under advisement or not find yourself an orthodox church

02:35:39.600 an orthodox christian church because those actually are lopsided the other way 55 men 55 men and join

02:35:48.080 one of those and then you can convert to true christianity and probably find a super based husband

02:35:53.440 just just a suggestion you can also look at my church if you want oh boy or just make non-denominational

02:35:59.120 churches less feminine and oh there you go yeah but you really can't because um the idea and this

02:36:08.160 would get into a whole thing so i'll just make it very quick but the the entire idea of christianity

02:36:13.200 and modernity in the western nations folds in unfortunately with egalitarianism and women

02:36:18.880 try to mold the idea of equality and egalitarianism into the patriarchal religion of christianity

02:36:25.600 it is a patriarchal religion it's always been a patriarchal religion we worship a man right uh well

02:36:33.040 god incarnated as a man so um we don't worship a man that was a bad tone of words but you you understand

02:36:38.960 what i mean right from the top down christ is the head of the patriarchy and your priests always going

02:36:46.080 to be male non-denominational church even allow women to be priests or preachers or whatever it

02:36:51.200 is that they're called within those confines it's an assault not legit patriarchal nation yeah right but

02:36:57.360 it's an assault on the patriarchal nature of christianity itself it's a patriarchal religion

02:37:03.200 oh yeah no that's why i agree that there are issues with certain churches that identify as

02:37:07.680 non-denominational but are very unbiblical and just catering to what makes people feel good which is

02:37:13.760 everything the bible says not to do so no i agree on that all right uh we've got a couple chats here

02:37:20.000 we have than i am abigail can you read these are you able to see it or no let me see uh yeah all right

02:37:27.440 that here i'll just do it obedience obeying when you want to or like what's asked of you submission

02:37:34.080 obeying when you don't want to or don't like what's asked of you wait obedience obeying when you

02:37:40.480 want to or like what's asked of you submission obeying when you don't want to or don't like

02:37:45.440 what's asked of you oh okay that's an interesting distinction um thank you finn i am for that message

02:37:53.040 really appreciate it man if you guys want to get your own message in it is read is 100 tts is 200 and

02:37:59.440 then let me actually do some venmo uh we just have thomas thank you for the 10 on cash app thomas

02:38:05.120 really appreciate it thank you so much man so the read is that and then we have one sec guys tts 200

02:38:11.680 we have glitch glitch field ask all the girls is it possible to be pro-choice and still believe

02:38:21.120 abortion ends a human life no pro-choice and believe uh is it possible to be like like essentially there

02:38:31.280 are pro-choicers that will acknowledge that it's biologically a human life but they'll think because

02:38:35.360 it's not a certain stage of development or it's not born yet that you can still kill them so i i kind of

02:38:41.760 so i actually look this up in because i'm i'm pretty spiritual i'm into spirituality and i looked this up

02:38:48.560 and i was like i'm about the mother's choice i'm about the mother's life and you know i don't want her to

02:38:55.520 have like a coat hanger abortion like for sure like that's not okay if she really needs one okay

02:39:01.360 get one but i'm gonna sit here and say i don't know the repercussions of that repercussions of what

02:39:08.320 i don't know the repercussions uh spiritually of a woman getting an abortion but i would say like

02:39:14.160 you know if she wants to if she needs to if it's if it's in her cards wait i'm sorry to interrupt i'm

02:39:19.440 sorry yeah we have to be fair to the super chat oh i don't think you're directly answering it um

02:39:26.080 is it possible to be pro-choice and still believe abortion ends a human life well i think this is a

02:39:31.760 more conservative leaning panel i think most of the panel here is probably pro-life perhaps with the

02:39:36.960 exception of you and are you pro-choice i am yeah okay uh so is it possible to be pro-choice and still

02:39:45.040 believe abortion ends a human life it's possible i think it's possible it's possible but it's very

02:39:50.240 yeah i mean there's like pro-choices who are like yeah i know it's they're like stoked yeah and they

02:39:54.400 think it's like i know it's killing a baby i'm cool that's fucked up i think the whole they'll make

02:40:01.920 it seem like it's not a human life and that's their cope is to make abortion okay is because it's not a

02:40:07.760 human so yeah it's possible but i don't think it's moral i think the abortion industry dehumanizes

02:40:14.640 babies so much nowadays and stuff it's just disgusting well lydia we have a video from you

02:40:19.200 that we're going to react to a little bit later on in the show uh relate i think it was related

02:40:24.080 to abortion right i don't i don't know well there you have a lot of videos so but uh i know we're

02:40:29.840 going to pull that up we have some super chats coming in we have baz peck hey baz thank you so

02:40:34.720 much for the australian 200 man pretty appreciate it first time dono love the show i'm 27 my wife and

02:40:39.760 i are not religious in the slightest and if i got home from work and told my wife we're moving

02:40:46.080 she wouldn't even think to question why seems my wife has a better understanding of submission and

02:40:50.720 trust than these so-called christians okay that's from baz does anybody you i don't know who that's

02:40:57.760 anybody want to respond well i mean you should trust your husband number one so i mean if if you're

02:41:03.520 questioning anything that your husband is deciding for both of you then there's probably an issue with it

02:41:09.440 okay all right uh let's see here we have uh rachel wilson uh rachel gets super chat privileges

02:41:18.880 but just for anybody else the uh the threshold's 100 but rachel gets special privileges uh we have

02:41:24.960 multiple large-scale studies and lots of data from all around the world showing that the number one

02:41:28.960 correlate to declining birth rates in every culture is women's access to higher education sorry but it's

02:41:36.000 true i see i see andrew shaking his head there agrees with his wife oh uh thank you rachel for

02:41:44.480 the uh super chat really appreciate it uh we have steve i told her to pull those stats up and she

02:41:49.920 obeyed and submitted like a good wife it's great obeyed and submitted based based uh all right we have

02:41:58.400 uh long long live liberty thank you for the membership i missed the other one who came up but thank you

02:42:03.120 we have steve charles in war men protect what women replenish their civilization neglect either duty

02:42:10.240 and civilization declines if women don't keep up replacement rates why should men fight and die for

02:42:15.440 declining civilization that's from our australian friend steve charles thank you so much for the

02:42:20.400 uh soup chat man appreciate it and uh i i'm curious how far you can how far you take that though uh because

02:42:28.400 i think people agree with that but men have have a uh the state can dictate to men okay uh we don't

02:42:37.840 care about your bodily autonomy we're going to ship you off and you're going to go to war and we're

02:42:42.720 going to put you in the front lines and if you try to like run away you go a wall we're going to

02:42:47.040 capture you and then you're going to be uh tried for treason or uh what is it what's the specific

02:42:52.960 military term for uh retreat like i knew it's not retreat no uh what is it uh what's what's the

02:43:01.040 military term for uh it's not a wall it's uh

02:43:09.600 i don't know whatever uh yeah you you're gonna be court-martialed you're gonna maybe i think in

02:43:16.160 war time i think if you uh flee the battle or whatever they're just gonna kill you your your own

02:43:21.760 side it's gonna just kill you discharge discharge it's not discharge um my neighbor did that when i

02:43:28.240 was young he ran from his platoon and he i don't know he got dishonorably discharged and then he went

02:43:35.440 to prison yeah um but so the government can draft men to war what do you guys think about

02:43:44.960 drafting women to have children what do you think about that is that fair fair proposition

02:43:49.680 no because we we want children to be born into families that are willing to be responsible for

02:43:56.880 a child that are willing to be good parents yeah but men don't want to go and die in some trench in

02:44:02.800 the french cow country okay but there's also a child you have to consider in this situation it's not just

02:44:07.680 about um what people want there's a child there's there's a child involved and we want the well-being

02:44:12.640 of that child to be taken into consideration i also don't recall god i mean god ever comparing

02:44:17.840 childbearing to war men being enlisted in war in the bible sorry what like i don't recall women

02:44:25.280 bearing a child compared to men listing in the bible are you are you saying war less bad than giving

02:44:31.760 birth or well actually it is um so the idea of women being saved through childbirth birth is

02:44:38.560 mentioned many many many times that that's one of the primary pathways to salvation for women

02:44:43.040 which gives it a moral opportunity in society also i'm not really interested on this particular

02:44:48.880 topic i'm not making a religious argument because uh the united states in every single country in the

02:44:55.280 world compels males only to be conscripted in times of war so it's not even a biblical or theological

02:45:05.520 or religious argument i agree with you i was just i was just responding oh well i'm not directing that

02:45:10.720 at you andrew i'm directing it at her uh that's first timothy 2 15 by the way yet she will be saved

02:45:16.000 through childbearing they continue in faith love and holiness yeah for example you could

02:45:20.160 moral duty you could have a secular government that only and this is the case for almost every

02:45:28.000 single nation with the exception of less than a handful uh men are compelled by force in times of war

02:45:37.840 drafted there's no corresponding like we're gonna force women to do this are okay sure loki this

02:45:46.160 sounds like the handmaid's tale um are are you saying we're forcefully impregnating women is that

02:45:52.960 that like how else are i'm not i'm not okay i'm not doing a prescriptive claim i'm speaking descriptively

02:45:59.680 i'm talking about what is not what should be i don't think women should be forced to but it is an

02:46:05.280 interesting thought experiment to be like okay well if the government can force men to you know

02:46:10.960 go to uh you know go somewhere european theater during world war ii europe european theater theater

02:46:17.120 during world war one and die in some trench and be bombarded with shells and for months on end and

02:46:23.600 suffer uh extreme ptsd this kind of ties into our previous conversation with duties so men have duties to

02:46:31.200 the point where they can be forced to go to war for their country and we can talk about well women's

02:46:36.960 duties are this but it's not state compelled whereas men's duties are state compelled through force nobody

02:46:44.800 points a gun in a woman's head and says in in a time of war where in order here i can frame it this way

02:46:52.080 well to finish my sentence women there's no uh nothing that compels women from the state down that says okay

02:46:57.840 you need to go have kids you need to produce kids nothing like that let's say for example not even

02:47:04.960 that it would be a good idea you know like think about it from even the military side

02:47:10.960 like you guys remember growing up with the army commercials like they would even put the army

02:47:15.440 commercials in kids shows right thinking that this would assist with the psychological indoctrination

02:47:22.320 for later you know what i mean and they had the cool music and you know the uh they would have

02:47:27.040 these cool slogans like army of one you know what i mean uh you know things like that all of that was

02:47:33.920 indoctrination from the top down in order to get men to fulfill a social duty for the protection of

02:47:38.960 the nation same thing you know but there's no equivalent of that uh even through propaganda for

02:47:44.320 women and and that's that's kind of brian's main point so then are you are you both saying that men

02:47:49.760 should not be legally obligated to fight and worse well i think i think that the draft is necessary

02:47:57.680 um and i think that there's all all sorts of compelling reasons i can give i now this is one

02:48:02.640 of my most unpopular positions that i think that the the draft is necessary um and that there can be

02:48:09.120 great times where you need huge amounts of conscripts to defend the nation that there is a social

02:48:13.600 obligation for men to do that the reason men resist that now is because they don't feel like women are

02:48:19.600 living up to the same obligations that they are compelled to have to move towards and so they

02:48:24.880 don't want the draft anymore women can't be drafted right there's all sorts of double standards for

02:48:29.840 women women for instance sports reporters i was talking about this earlier today they can go into

02:48:35.280 men's locker rooms and they fought for the right to go into men's locker rooms to interview men can't go

02:48:40.240 into women's locker rooms and do interviews like there's all kinds of crazy double standards

02:48:46.080 which are set uh between the sexes in an egalitarian society can't really have that so it's like if it

02:48:53.440 is the case that you think that women deserve an honored place in society as matrons then they have to

02:48:59.360 fulfill their social obligations like they expect men to do or why why is it that you would have any

02:49:04.880 expectations of men why would men just resist it at every level that's brian's point here right yeah i

02:49:10.640 actually agree with you a lot on the draft is necessary and stuff what i think this is just a thought

02:49:15.440 i've randomly had is that women shouldn't be allowed to go to college until they're like 28.

02:49:19.840 if they're if men are being drafted when women shouldn't be allowed to go to college until

02:49:23.760 they're 28 unless they have kids it's just a thought i had because if they don't have a career

02:49:28.960 to seek after then they have this is it's a thought it's a thought it's a thought that's a crazy

02:49:35.040 thought hey it's a crazy thought i speak what i say yeah that's okay i think i think one way you

02:49:41.920 can take care of this is um you you take the right to vote and you give it to married households

02:49:46.240 instead one household voting oh that's i think that's a really good idea i like that one of the

02:49:50.160 reasons that's a good idea is right now in the current state of voting the anti-suffragettes the

02:49:55.040 ones who were against feminism initially and it was first wave feminism that brought in the suffrage

02:49:59.520 movement to say that women should be able to vote they made it one of the most compelling arguments

02:50:04.720 which is this will divide household against household it'll divide husbands against wives the second

02:50:10.080 women become political pawns of the machine they will be divided from their husbands that's exactly

02:50:15.600 what's happened it read the anti-suffragette arguments read like prophecies now if you read

02:50:20.880 them now they read like prophecies like it's amazing how accurate each one of those arguments is oh one

02:50:27.200 question and indeed divided and the anti-suffragettes wasn't it predominantly women correct that that's

02:50:34.400 correct well not only that but what's really interesting is that they had to fight so

02:50:39.920 that women couldn't vote on voting because when women voted on their right to vote they voted against

02:50:46.640 it and initially feminists made the bold claim that the reason is because women were too comfortable

02:50:53.280 and their status in society was too good and it was they couldn't incur any debt no debt they weren't

02:50:58.720 they weren't allowed to incur any debt whatsoever the husband had to incur the debt they weren't all of

02:51:03.760 these things uh that women were so comfortable in society they didn't want to be considered political

02:51:08.560 cogs to give you an idea of how powerful women were in their moral stances before they became cogs of

02:51:14.880 the voting machine they passed the 18th amendment which passed before the 19th amendment which is their

02:51:21.680 right to vote right they got the 18th amendment passed on just moral grounds because they were considered

02:51:26.720 moral arbiters in society they were considered the more moral sex because they were not political

02:51:33.040 cause to be used and it's like and they gave up all that high ground it's just crazy to me it's like

02:51:38.000 it's like backwards you know what i mean it's backwards we should not be dividing husbands

02:51:42.080 against wives we don't need to do that it's not necessary

02:51:47.280 i would say hang on chair three chair chair chair three was giving me the look though she was giving me

02:51:51.760 the like sorry i have rbs this crazy fucking guy this crazy fucker's ideas over here do you actually

02:51:59.920 think that women should not have the right to vote well actually i think most people shouldn't have the

02:52:05.120 right to vote not just women specifically and here well let me make a case and let's see maybe i can

02:52:11.040 make a compelling enough argument that i can change your mind does that sound fair you can try do you think

02:52:17.440 that you're pretty informed on the issue of abortion yes do you think that most women at 18 years old

02:52:23.760 are no but i don't think most men are either why do you think it's a good idea yeah men either exactly

02:52:29.360 agreed do you think it's a good idea that they can nullify your well-informed vote that they can

02:52:33.920 what nullify your well-informed vote on that issue i think that everyone should still have the right

02:52:39.920 to use their vote when they are impacted by the government why do you hate the founders so much the

02:52:45.120 founders didn't believe that our founding fathers not only didn't believe that but set it up so that

02:52:49.920 that system was not in place they believe that stakeholders in society themselves should have

02:52:55.120 the right to vote because they were informed on these political issues and had stake in society

02:52:59.680 and that the youth especially like our founding fathers would roll over in their graves if they

02:53:04.240 knew that 18 year olds could vote inside of political elections they would lose their minds they'd be

02:53:09.840 like what are you people doing are you insane um so i mean why do you why do you disagree with them

02:53:15.760 why do you think it's a good idea because they're still impacted by the government that creates the

02:53:19.440 the ability for the government to oppress 18 year olds i mean 16 year olds are yeah i mean

02:53:25.680 those are impacted by the government it's valid they be able to vote well first of all 10 year olds can't

02:53:30.640 also don't go and fight wars but no i i honestly i mean that is it's a valid argument but no i think

02:53:37.440 18 yeah it's a valid 18 year olds can be drafted and they can't buy a beer they can't buy a

02:53:43.360 fucking beer they can't rent a car but they can be drafted they can't buy a cigarette they can't

02:53:47.360 rent a car but they can be drafted go off to war how is this a good system like make a compelling

02:53:52.800 argument back how is it a good system i think honestly 18 year olds are so stupid they shouldn't

02:53:57.840 be able to drink but but they they're so smart that they should be allowed to have a gun and that

02:54:03.280 they can be compelled and conscripted into military service how is this a good system again no i i

02:54:08.960 honestly i kind of see your point but i don't think the solution is to take away vote honestly

02:54:13.280 if anything it would be to ensure voters are well informed before they vote but no i think

02:54:19.440 it's a hard thing because there's pros and cons of i don't think it's a good system i think if we look

02:54:24.160 if we look in here maybe i could change your mind uh because we found a common ground here yes but

02:54:29.200 your your argument doesn't doesn't say why women shouldn't have the right to vote it's kind of just

02:54:34.000 saying why 18 was my argument that women shouldn't be able to vote what was my actual argument that

02:54:39.040 most people should be able to right right okay so how does this feel like yeah so i think that you

02:54:44.240 could do one household voting i would give the right to vote to married households i think that that could

02:54:48.880 be a really good idea another way that you could do is you could raise the raise the age of voting to

02:54:53.520 30. i think that that would be super helpful i think that uh there's all sorts of different

02:54:59.200 things that you could do but it's going to disenfranchise a whole lot of people and i'm

02:55:03.680 just totally fine with that i don't think everybody needs to be enfranchised i think what's happened is

02:55:08.960 the way politics are set up in the united states they're set up between blocks and it's which block

02:55:14.320 can be bribed by the electoral money that lobbyists go in and say look we're going to fund you with x dollars

02:55:22.160 uh so that we can pump and dump a bunch of cash right a big scam for a voting block and then they

02:55:27.680 use that sort of political power um not on behalf of the constituency but on behalf of the lobbyists so

02:55:34.560 why is it a good idea to have everybody politically enfranchised when clearly they make terrible

02:55:40.400 decisions in life and they're not ready for that sort of responsibility whatsoever in running a nation

02:55:45.920 having the say in running a nation why would you let them vote that's stupid right well the issue is

02:55:50.240 is there's smart people that are 18 and there's really really dumb people that are 80 years old

02:55:55.280 and like there's going to be smart and dumb people and so you can't just generalize generalize a whole

02:56:00.400 age group completely agree with you but you can generalize and here's why i can agree with you

02:56:05.440 there's going to be really smart there's going to be 18 year olds right now who are much smarter than

02:56:08.880 you not me but you and the thing that was a great joke i slipped it in there it was a great joke but

02:56:14.720 anyway there's going to be 18 year olds who are out there who are smarter than me and you

02:56:18.960 i agree with that there's not going to be many though and there's going to be 80 year olds who are

02:56:23.520 much dumber than that 18 year old but there's not going to be that many of them okay so if that's

02:56:29.200 the case we're not going to make social policy based on outliers yeah you would never do that

02:56:33.840 everything in politics is a give and take anytime you make a political decision it's going to negatively

02:56:39.200 affect some group somewhere there's not a damn thing you can do about it so knowing that having

02:56:43.760 that foreknowledge why would we make social prescriptions based around the fact that some

02:56:48.480 stupid ass 18 year olds uh no longer can vote but the like one or two who were really smart and

02:56:54.240 informed we've taken away their vote too it's like so what yes but that's politics but if if the

02:56:59.360 government isn't incentivized to care about young people if we really did make the voting at age 30

02:57:04.880 then the government isn't going to care about young people anymore they are they are not going to work

02:57:09.600 as hard for them that's just how it would work that's why it's silly that's silly the constituency

02:57:14.400 of the government would be parents the parents are definitely going to have a whole lot to say about

02:57:20.960 how young people are treated and what young people ought to be doing or not doing just like parents in

02:57:25.600 the home do right now with their kids who can't vote so how would it even disenfranchise them they would

02:57:31.040 have to trust in the generation of their own parents to represent them correctly which by the way

02:57:35.760 they do right now they do it right now did you say something i wouldn't say that they

02:57:41.840 no no i'd like an argument there i'd like hang on i'd like an argument back yeah from me yeah oh no i

02:57:48.560 i agree there's pros and cons to each thing but no i still think that the the government is not going

02:57:53.680 to care as much about the younger people if they're not having to cater to their vote and i think

02:57:57.920 that if you are if you are being taxed by the country if you are having to fight for your country

02:58:03.680 you should have a say and how the government is run but no i do think there's just an issue i agree

02:58:08.080 with you that there's an issue on voters not being well informed this is really i guess the the thing

02:58:13.600 i would like to take to task here is this idea that the government's going to stop caring about young

02:58:18.320 people if young people can't vote in the government it's like the government stopped caring about 16

02:58:22.560 year olds because they can't vote no do they stop caring about toddlers because toddlers can't vote

02:58:27.600 no in fact parents are out there making all sorts of um of political decisions and political votes

02:58:33.920 based around the protection of the young in society and the infirm in society two-year-olds three-year-olds

02:58:38.720 four-year-olds five-year-olds on behalf of those two-year-olds three-year-olds four-year-olds five-year-olds

02:58:42.240 because they're the ones who can't they're the ones who are enfranchised why in the world suddenly

02:58:47.280 if the voting age let's say was 25 do you think that the government's like well you're 23 off i don't

02:58:52.080 care what you're thinking for the enfranchised people still care right like they're the ones who tell

02:58:56.560 the government what's what well also the the thing is a two-year-old isn't having to pay taxes they're

02:59:02.480 not having to fight a war so if we were to go by your argument that you can't vote until you're 30 i

02:59:08.000 don't think people under 30 should have to pay taxes or fight in wars why that's silly 16 year olds can

02:59:13.600 work and they get taxed should they have to go fight wars i i think that's an issue that you're that

02:59:18.960 you're giving back to to the the government to your country and you don't have a say and how the country

02:59:25.120 is 15 year olds and 14 year olds with part-time jobs should be able to work to vote then by that

02:59:30.000 logic i again i think there's pros and cons to everything i yeah that doesn't make any sense

02:59:34.960 because your logic is if you're paying into a system you should have a right to be enfranchised

02:59:39.120 in the system my counter argument to you is really simple then if that's the case make it logically

02:59:44.240 consistent at 13 years old i had a part-time job at a mcdonald's should i be able to vote if not why not

02:59:50.000 honestly it's it's a compelling argument itself that's why i mean no matter which way you go no

02:59:55.920 matter who you cut out of voting it's going to negatively impact some people and that yeah i

03:00:01.440 mean it's a complex issue so we have to kind of compare our systems and see which one works the

03:00:05.920 best and it sounds like you're in more agreement with the system which i would propose than i am with

03:00:10.640 the system that you would propose i'm just asking you to think about it that's all okay all right uh

03:00:16.480 i got to get through a bunch of chats so we have dalimar the only answer to the population problem

03:00:22.480 along with degenerate f culture oops i guess they see something different than me uh is ban abortion

03:00:30.320 and here's the big one ban all forms of birth control including condoms period okay um that's

03:00:37.440 an interesting one thank you dalimar for your stream labs message really appreciate it if you want to get

03:00:43.040 your own in you can do so streamlabs.com whatever read 100 tts 200 we have uh let's see what else we

03:00:50.560 have we got some uh super chats on the youtube side in war men protect what wait did i read this one

03:00:58.080 wait men protect what women replenish their civilization neglect either duty and civilization declines

03:01:03.920 wait really yeah conversation okay uh there's this uh okay a little gaming channel thank you for the

03:01:12.320 soup chat appreciate it we have chris surdak me me me me me me me me me me what guy who has worked

03:01:21.120 his ass off for a decade or two would want to sign up for this delusional okay thank you chris i don't

03:01:28.160 know who that's directed to but thank you for the soup chat on youtube appreciate it uh michael jones

03:01:34.800 and desertion that is correct that's the word i'm just going to read these just because i'm the one

03:01:39.200 handling the soup chats right now so uh i'll just pull them up but i won't read all of them

03:01:44.000 uh thank you hunter thank you little gaming channel for your soup chat appreciate yep

03:01:48.960 deserter appreciate it that that is the word coastal operator haley lujan tricking who's that

03:01:56.240 who's haley lujan i don't know uh coastal operator appreciate it influencer that's like military and like

03:02:02.640 uh propaganda propaganda okay uh cat thank you for the gifted 50 memberships cat you're a legend

03:02:09.600 guys w's in the chat for for uh gifting 50 memberships to the uh whatever chat community

03:02:16.320 thank you cat so much uh okay casual thank you for the super chat appreciate it hunter cry alone thank

03:02:24.480 you for hunter oh is that okay it's like a meme on uh thank you for the uh super chat i do appreciate it

03:02:31.200 natalia gifted 50 whatever memberships thank you so much appreciate it guys let's get some w's in

03:02:38.160 the chat for our good friend natalia thank you so much for the gifted 50 whatever memberships

03:02:43.680 got ogle member for five months with the eyeballs thank you so much man ogle's an og he uh he's one of

03:02:51.920 our he's a top g in the discord thank you ogle appreciate it man good to see you in the chat uh we

03:02:58.000 have matt here chair three 100 feminist thanks for that soup chat you want to contest the feminist

03:03:02.800 accusation i mean it depends on how you're defining feminists if you just means equal rights then sure

03:03:08.480 but no i think that modern from feminism is um i can i i would define it i think the same way he would

03:03:15.040 it would be the movement towards egalitarianism with the deconstruction of patriarchy the reason

03:03:19.840 deconstruction of patriarchy is necessary for egalitarianism you can't have equality if you say

03:03:25.360 that with men and women cannot be equally franchised in various things so you're going to have to

03:03:29.440 deconstruct patriarchal systems feminism is anti-patriarchal that's why it's anti-christian

03:03:34.400 yeah okay are you a feminist what no are you a feminist by that standard no no so then why do you

03:03:41.440 want egalitarianism i i think that obvious like i think that women deserve rights but no i i do agree

03:03:50.800 that like men are equal right do they deserve equal rights what rights are you talking about specifically

03:03:55.680 oh any any yeah yeah yeah yeah so if they deserve any rights they're going to necessarily be

03:04:01.840 deconstructing patriarchal systems for that to happen there's no way around that

03:04:08.960 women and men are equal no so i'm just saying like yeah women and men aren't equal

03:04:13.280 so in order to reach equality we have to elevate women in one way or another to reach equality like

03:04:22.160 like for example i do think in general that it is good for women to be mothers now i think it should

03:04:27.600 absolutely i think women should have the right to go and work to go and do have a job if they want as

03:04:33.600 well even though i might think that in general it is better for women to be mothers so if that makes

03:04:39.440 sense i think they should have the legal right well well nobody's disputing that what i'm asking is

03:04:44.640 this it is the case that you're an egalitarian and it is the case that in order the only way to have

03:04:50.720 egalitarianism is to dismantle patriarchal systems because otherwise what are you equalizing

03:04:56.000 what are you equalizing if it's not equalizing women to men that's the case necessarily you're

03:05:01.760 going to be dismantling patriarchal system definitionally then if you believe in that you would be a feminist yeah

03:05:09.440 i suppose no i i think i think there are certain things like for instance i don't think women

03:05:13.920 should be drafted that is one thing so i don't necessarily that's not very equal i know that's i i

03:05:18.560 will take that back maybe not exactly but so why is it the case though why shouldn't women be drafted

03:05:25.280 because i well i i honestly have issues with men in general being drafted like i i don't what do you

03:05:31.920 mean i do think that there's an argument that it's taking away like their bodily autonomy well yeah

03:05:39.120 but the thing is is governments and nations are not going to relinquish their right to uh force

03:05:43.920 its citizen citizenry into a military conflict if needed so um given the reality that men do have

03:05:52.080 to register with selective service uh should women equally have to register too no i don't think so

03:05:59.360 at the end of the day and i mean i guess that's an example of something that i do think it's is

03:06:02.960 different i think when i'm talking about equal rights i'm talking about just generalized i mean we

03:06:06.880 we can talk about and that creates privilege in society now now you're creating privilege

03:06:11.360 for women so no i think men and women women are different i think men i agree men and women are

03:06:17.120 different you're getting a privileged role you don't have to go fight no wars and get drafted

03:06:21.280 what do men get what do we get in exchange for that well women are considered the crime

03:06:27.360 well i think honor first of all i think that that's a huge thing that men are honored for fighting

03:06:32.640 the war by who other men or women but because in this case you get you get an elevated position

03:06:39.120 men get to be honored for the position of dying on your behalf well that's fantastic what a great deal

03:06:43.280 for us no i think i think that i it's it's different in that aspect so again maybe not sorry i said

03:06:50.880 equal i'm i'm talking equal as in as our basic constitutional rights um but no i do think men and women are

03:06:58.080 different so i'm not a feminist in that violation of our basic constitutional rights to have a draft

03:07:02.960 it can't be right because congress could definitely call up the militia when they need to right yeah

03:07:08.720 that's true i mean i go back and forth on that i just i i don't necessarily oppose the draft i just

03:07:14.960 do i do have concerns about it i do you had something abigail yeah i'm curious if you're against

03:07:20.480 the patriarchal system or if you're for it and what aspects like what specifics i mean

03:07:29.200 all aspects yeah all aspects relationships the patriarchy men yeah leading the society no no okay no

03:07:38.000 definitely not no i think men are are made by god typically to be leaders absolutely okay not that

03:07:45.040 women can't be leaders in some aspects but typically not the same way yeah i'm just curious i guess

03:07:51.440 something wait wait hold on hold on you're moving right then they can't be leaders it's like their

03:07:58.400 leadership's a little too much no you're good you're good um so it's interesting though i i think most

03:08:07.520 women don't have any qualms with the current status quo of okay men uh they're the only ones that get

03:08:14.880 drafted they're the ones that fight the wars they're the ones that overwhelmingly die and there's

03:08:21.040 really doesn't seem to be much really any much uh of a social movement against forced military

03:08:30.480 conscription of men by women uh most women are just like yeah i don't want to go to war men should be

03:08:37.040 like yeah and some sort of here let me ask you a question you said that men should not be drafted

03:08:42.320 well i i'm not necessarily i i have concerns about it what are your like again i think it i think it

03:08:47.920 is i mean forcing people to fight for a country is can be a little bit against their bodily autonomy

03:08:55.120 but no i do think it is sometimes necessary it's not great i don't like that we're dragging people

03:09:00.160 that don't want to be there yes i agree with you it's bad yeah it's sometimes necessary yeah here's

03:09:06.160 the scenario i yeah war bad here's the scenario i would present to you is um so

03:09:15.280 let's say there's an invading country let's say it doesn't even need to be a specific one it's just

03:09:20.160 hypothetical uh i don't know kazakhstan they're become a military superpower some and they're

03:09:26.400 gonna invade the country and they are uh they are uh here's their policy if they invade them

03:09:35.440 successfully invade the country they're going to kill all the fighting age males in that country

03:09:41.120 who aren't even in the military and then they're gonna take all the women in the country as war brides

03:09:46.800 uh do you think then you should compel men

03:09:49.520 uh and here's the scenario if you don't compel men to uh you force them to join the military to be

03:09:58.560 part of the military then you know definitively that you will lose this war against kazakhstan

03:10:05.760 and they're going to grape all the women and kill all the men do you think then that it would then

03:10:11.040 warrant forcing men so that the women don't get raped and all the men don't die anyways

03:10:16.560 to then fight and if you do fight then you have a 50 chance of winning versus just you will lose if

03:10:22.480 you don't do this absolutely that's why i'm saying i have concerns about it but i do think it's sometimes

03:10:26.000 something that's necessary right so that's but i mean that's the whole idea of okay well there are

03:10:31.200 some circumstances in which and look there's been drafts where like vietnam war didn't need to

03:10:37.200 shouldn't have been in that conflict to begin with that's all another conversation uh some drafts are

03:10:43.440 not for like the the life blood protection of the nation um but there are some that are and so

03:10:52.160 in this instance it's like okay well you would do that right uh so i'm just i don't know it seems

03:10:58.720 but why not then compel women i think well i think men have a biological advantage and that's why we

03:11:05.840 do draft men because they have um they're typically physically stronger um but no i i think that's

03:11:13.600 why but no i think in general i i'm not necessarily opposed to draft i just do have concern i mean i

03:11:18.560 don't think anyone here thinks oh it's great it's fantastic that we're forcing people to fight

03:11:23.040 no it's a necessary thing that isn't great but what do men get for that sole burden and duty being

03:11:30.400 placed on them well it's not like women are just sitting back at home or they shouldn't be

03:11:34.960 what do you mean like they're they're still doing things to support men they should be yeah but from

03:11:39.520 the government down what is the government compelling by force women to do in wartime nothing yeah and i

03:11:47.520 honestly like i think that it's because men have a physical advantage but no i i agree it's it's

03:11:55.440 different in that way do you think that women that volunteer like you know like i volunteer as tribute

03:12:00.160 um like the that instead of a man like that has a family a woman that volunteers and is like ah well

03:12:07.280 i have nothing going on for me so i'll just join the military do you think that she could just get

03:12:11.200 like an honorable like you know like status or something uh you know once the war is over once she

03:12:18.640 completes her mission uh would that be something i guess applicable for that i'm sorry what oh like

03:12:27.200 um so pretty much it's a total non sequitur but okay what's your question oh um well pretty much

03:12:34.080 if let's say there's a man with a family and he gets drafted and this woman's like hey this guy's

03:12:38.640 got a whole family going on i have nothing to do i'm a single woman i might as well just go anyways and

03:12:43.600 i'm able-bodied woman uh if she took his place would she get an honorable or could she like get

03:12:49.680 an honorable you know something the medal of honor i don't know something yeah yeah i guess if she would

03:12:56.160 that give an incentive for more women to do it but then again like why wouldn't the guy yeah women

03:13:01.680 can volunteer for the military yeah but yeah but it's just i don't want one of the problems with

03:13:07.520 egalitarianism which is that you end up taking patriarchal systems and then lowering the standards so that

03:13:13.120 women can participate oh that's exactly what happened in the military it's exactly what happened

03:13:17.680 in the police force it's exactly what's happened across the board when it comes to any of the

03:13:22.400 protectorate roles in society guess how many navy seals are women i don't know how many zero oh okay

03:13:30.000 really and it's not because they can't be in fact they've been trying to get one to be for years and

03:13:34.960 years and years and they can't pass the training they can't do it they can't pass basic underwater

03:13:40.240 demolition training they can't they get they're physically unable to accomplish this the ones who

03:13:45.280 were i did some research on the ones who were green berets i didn't think there was any green berets

03:13:49.120 there is actually a few who are but it turns out those were just political appointments ultimately

03:13:53.440 and they lowered the standards that those women could pass as well in fact the very first one the very

03:13:58.320 first female green beret two months after she completed her training ended up getting arrested and

03:14:03.760 going to jail because she discharged her own firearm negligently in her own house right that's how

03:14:10.960 these are special forces right this is the lowering of standards and the deconstruction of patriarchal

03:14:18.160 systems and the military has to necessarily be a patriarchal system no choice you rely 100 on men for

03:14:24.480 defense here let me give a counter question i'll start with a gallon red she has a lot of political

03:14:28.880 knowledge i'm not trying to pick on her she just happens to be able to debate a bit because she has some

03:14:32.560 political knowledge so um what happens what do you think happens if men stop the role of defending

03:14:38.880 women in the country what happens what happens to the country it would probably you chair three

03:14:45.200 chair oh sorry ask your question again i thought you're asking yeah what do you think what do you

03:14:49.040 think happens to women and children in the nation if men stop defending the country what happened yeah

03:14:54.960 i mean they would be negatively impacted they i mean well they would be destroyed right yeah they

03:14:59.200 would be carried off as war brides yeah no that's why i think it's necessary unfortunately it's just

03:15:04.320 unfortunate i agree it's necessary so then brian's question which has gone unanswered time and time

03:15:09.440 and time again what the men get out of that what are we getting out of this and that's what brian

03:15:15.280 wants to know ultimately right he's like what do i get for the fact that right this second and this

03:15:20.080 is the truth this is the god's honest truth right this second if war breaks out with china tomorrow we do

03:15:24.880 not have a large enough mass armed forces to deal with it for a prolonged period of time the government

03:15:29.920 can easily turn to conscription not saying they would but they easily could brian right if you

03:15:35.760 need men especially it doesn't even matter if they have physical ailments they're going to draft your ass

03:15:40.080 and that's going to be that he's eligible for the draft they don't give a about his

03:15:44.080 studio they don't care about what he's got going on in life they don't care if he's got millions of

03:15:48.480 dollars in the bank or not they don't give a about any of that they're going to drag his ass up and hand

03:15:53.440 him a rifle and off where he goes so because that can happen to him it can't happen to any of you

03:15:58.880 cannot happen what does he get well what does he get he gets his own personal freedom for one

03:16:06.080 and secondly women are his own personal freedom take erroneous no no wait what what go ahead wait

03:16:14.240 explain the personal freedom thing no so by going to war and fighting for yourself you're fighting for

03:16:18.800 your own personal freedom and the freedom of others and that's something that we yeah but

03:16:23.360 women would get that too what does the man get nothing what i'm trying to say is the woman women

03:16:30.800 are considered in christianity to be the crown and stuff you get a crown i guess you can say

03:16:37.520 i mean look you got to make a secular argument because there's there's countries that are secular

03:16:42.800 the draft the submitted crowns are for the king not for the submitted yes that's what the thing is

03:16:48.480 is that yeah you get a crown and but unfortunately heavy is the head that wears the actual crown that's

03:16:54.640 what i'm taking your case it's going to be the man who's in charge of the family it's like

03:16:58.240 what what do the men get socially and societally well for the fact that they have a social obligation to

03:17:05.600 defend all of the women in society what are they getting for that hopefully they would get a submissive

03:17:09.840 wife well they don't yes they don't even get a country where they can reproduce they have women

03:17:15.040 who are enfranchised with voting who vote so like here let me give you some more arguments here women

03:17:20.960 are the deciding vote on almost all degeneracy in society anything that you would consider from a

03:17:25.760 christian perspective to be a degenerate action the lgbtq gay mirror all of this women are always the

03:17:30.960 deciding vote which are the positive for those effects every single time yes the trans phenomenon

03:17:37.600 right now wouldn't even exist inside the united states absent women in franchised voting period

03:17:43.840 that is actually the case you can look at a map a political distribution you can see it for yourself

03:17:48.640 there's no if ands or what's about it no on top of all of that here's the here's the other major issue

03:17:53.840 that you have because this is the case and men are expected to protect women in the electorate but

03:18:00.320 women can send them off to war that they themselves don't have to fight via their vote that's a

03:18:06.320 fundamental unfairness which exists in society that fundamental unfairness that's why i agree with

03:18:12.480 you on the fact that um only marriage married households should be able to vote i'm saying

03:18:17.200 currently it is unfair men do not have an advantage but they do get an advantage if they uphold christian

03:18:23.120 values and um the country's predominantly christian no it's not oh it used to be predominantly christian

03:18:33.760 um i would say that it the majority of people do identify that way but just self-identification as

03:18:40.880 we now know doesn't mean there's lots of people who self-identify as being the opposite sex for

03:18:46.880 instance right that kind of thing that doesn't mean that they are and just a simple self-idea of i

03:18:51.760 christian doesn't have anything to do with your actual status as one yes the question just becomes

03:18:56.880 this there's if this fundamental inequality actually does exist and it does that women can vote in

03:19:03.760 politicians that then send men off to war against men's will right why is it that men should put up

03:19:09.840 with enfranchisement from women to begin with i don't think they should put up with it they shouldn't

03:19:14.880 they shouldn't yeah they should not they shouldn't yeah i think um women need to uh

03:19:20.160 seek marriage just as much as men need to seek marriage and stuff and then if you have a christian

03:19:26.240 household the man will fight for the woman and the woman will nurture the man and provide relief for

03:19:31.680 him wait so andrew is the is the for the question that you pose what do men get is it the vote is that

03:19:41.040 the answer they get that's not the that's not the okay no men are supposed to get social duties and

03:19:47.440 virtue from the opposite sex that i see okay and they should get that yeah they get they get an

03:19:52.720 equivalent social duty i agree for instance with chair three there are ontological differences the

03:19:58.800 state of being between what men and women are itself are different we're bigger we're stronger

03:20:04.720 right we don't have the same influx of hormones when it comes to rationality so we tend to make more

03:20:09.360 pragmatic decisions overall not now this is not to say women are not logical they are not to say women

03:20:15.280 are not rational they are not to say that women don't have agency they do all of those things are

03:20:20.800 correct across the board but it is still the case they have influxes of hormones that men don't have

03:20:26.400 to deal with and one of the biggest stabilizers in a man's brain's testosterone helps with rational

03:20:31.840 decision making and the skills of rationality itself men are uniquely equipped to deal with the

03:20:37.200 political experience whereas women are not uniquely equipped to deal with it does that mean that

03:20:41.360 women are always going to make bad choices politically no but the pattern seems to be

03:20:45.280 that they have so far i'm not even saying you have to disenfranchise women though i would limit the

03:20:50.640 voting pool significantly for men and women what i am saying is this specifically if men have to go

03:20:55.920 sacrifice their lives on behalf of women and that's the expectation that when the titanic is going

03:21:00.560 down the men are the ones who get to stay on the ship and the women and children get the lifeboats

03:21:05.280 then damn it they get the big piece of chicken and what that means what that means is socially if

03:21:12.080 they get the big piece of chicken that they get virtuous women women are moving towards virtue in

03:21:17.200 society and towards the reproduction of society itself in the great exchange of not hating men

03:21:23.840 but elevating their status in society as the protectors of all of it and i think that that's a

03:21:28.720 completely reasonable exchange that from the top down we could start promoting and it would make a huge

03:21:34.400 difference in society for both of us absolutely agree yeah well said well put well put well put

03:21:42.720 all right i have one question andrew what do you think we deserve a champagne pop for that rant

03:21:52.800 for coming into whatever studio we deserve one uh go ahead i'll get you in just a sec ogle thank you

03:21:57.680 for the gifted 50 100 memberships actually you sent it in twice let me do the ipod the stream labs ding

03:22:04.400 hasn't been working i don't know why let me get that through thank you so much and i'm also going

03:22:08.960 to do it for natalia and cat i don't know why stream labs hasn't been working for the ding

03:22:14.720 but i appreciate it there's a couple chats that we'll get to ogle uh andrew did call for the uh you

03:22:20.640 don't have to do it but uh if anybody in the chat wants to send in the champagne pop gladly do it we'll

03:22:26.400 also probably get maybe some pizza going too so uh yeah thank you so much ogle for the 100 gifted

03:22:33.280 memberships you're a fucking legend man if you order pepperoni pizza and not every woman on that

03:22:38.400 panel has to eat pineapple i'm never coming back to the whatever studio again wait i like

03:22:42.480 pineapple i don't know if they eat better only be pineapple that you order for people from now on

03:22:48.560 society eat that nasty pineapple pizza i'm not a pineapple i don't know i'll pick the pepperoni

03:22:55.760 off oh no andrew that's uh because then if they come then i gotta eat the pineapple

03:23:01.840 i could pick it off like how you did and just you know pick it off but it's it you know what andrew

03:23:07.680 even if you pick the pineapple off i'm sure you'll agree with me on this it's still it's tainted it's

03:23:14.240 tainted pizza it's just not like i mean would you eat a piece of pizza somebody dragged their balls

03:23:20.160 on it depends on who no damn uh yeah yeah definitely not i definitely wouldn't do that but uh okay we

03:23:33.360 have uh let's see here oh sorry you had a question go ahead oh you're good

03:23:37.520 um my question is like obviously like men would be drafted if something were to come up

03:23:42.560 but also like our most likely chances of war like nuclear we're not necessarily invading countries like

03:23:48.160 um european theater like world war ii world war one so there's the chance that they might not need

03:23:54.080 all of those men actually and it's been decades since men were actually at risk or actually sent out

03:24:00.880 and conscripted well american men but if you look at ukraine you look at russia you look at israel

03:24:06.240 uh yeah they're definitely conscripting in ukraine yeah actually really quick on on ukraine is is

03:24:13.600 actually with ukraine there you can actually and i encourage ogle uh i'll get in just a sec ogle

03:24:21.600 you're a legend um you can look up there's hundreds of these videos coming out of ukraine yeah of men it's

03:24:30.320 not just like well i'm drafted now and they send you a letter they abduct you in the street they beat

03:24:35.840 you up the military police beat you up and they abduct you if you resist them uh and most men are

03:24:42.560 like i don't want to go to the front in winter against russia uh no and so yeah there's like gangs

03:24:51.360 military police gangs that will drag men into a van some beat them up if they're resisting and

03:24:58.880 there's hundreds of these videos of ukraine it's captured on uh security camera footage cell phone

03:25:05.280 footage these ukrainian men being abducted by their own uh military and then they go to they get maybe

03:25:12.720 six weeks of military training put them in the trenches on the you know the where the military

03:25:18.800 conflicts are uh along the ukrainian border or whatever it is and uh so yeah men are being

03:25:25.600 drafted and i know you say well there'd be nuclear war uh sure we do have nukes but i mean there's

03:25:31.840 a mutually assured destruction mad uh so i'm not really sure if i mean if it's like some

03:25:38.720 i don't know how nukes are going to play out conceive of and i do think we are closer to a

03:25:43.840 global conflict global war world war three than at any time in the past few i mean well at least

03:25:52.400 since the cold war ended ultimately the this is a i think the most compelling argument the other side

03:25:59.280 has that you just made which is you know due to technology and the fact that it probably wouldn't

03:26:04.320 be the majority of men anyway um then then how is it compelling that all men would deserve to kind of

03:26:10.640 enjoy whatever the luxury socially they would get from the fact that it is the requirement that it's

03:26:16.400 going to be men who do go i think that is the best argument the other side has so i thank you for making

03:26:21.600 it my counter argument to this is vietnam during vietnam we had nukes we had them and sort of the

03:26:28.800 whole world right well not the whole world but the nuclear armed world like russia they had them there

03:26:33.360 was still a draft and um you know tens and tens and hundreds of thousands of people went in the draft

03:26:39.040 and many of them got shot to death by vietnamese and uh and this type of thing and in vietnam there

03:26:43.920 was a draft as well the 20th century the largest killer of humanity at least to date that we know

03:26:51.120 of was what's called democide death by government the largest killer of humanity throughout the 20th

03:26:57.840 including right here other than medical malpractice even right here in the united states warfare dynamically

03:27:04.640 will never change you know always reduce to after the bombs and after the drones and after the mass

03:27:10.160 destruction to men with rifles in their hands killing each other in trenches it'll always be the

03:27:14.800 same it'll always be the same idea of suppress um flank kill it'll always come down to that so

03:27:20.880 the thing is it's like no you could have a global conflict again on par with world war ii easily in

03:27:25.840 the 21st century in which you saw half the population were more of able-bodied men drafted and sent off to

03:27:32.480 war and that is the fact of the matter the u.s government knows it they've drafted it into their

03:27:37.920 war plans they've made them all public for americans to see we know exactly what they think would happen

03:27:43.200 in opening stages with many of the nations that we've gone into conflict with so i would have to

03:27:47.600 refute this by just saying simply that's not a historic view of the draft and two uh that we could

03:27:53.360 easily get to a global conflict where a majority of men were in fact drafted

03:27:57.760 i agree that we could it's all right have to do it

03:28:05.120 ogle underscore glue dot net donated 999 dollars pop champagne champagne bottle emoji

03:28:13.360 glasses emoji oh okay that was a little impotent

03:28:20.480 ogle you're a fucking legend giga chat uh who wants champagne i'm okay yes yes yes hey question

03:28:29.760 since you're part of the lds you don't drink like at all i don't drink any alcohol at stop

03:28:35.120 sorry i'll have your glass

03:28:40.160 my wife's bringing me down a shot you gotta wait for me too before you guys

03:28:42.560 oh we'll get it we'll get it yo ogle guys w's in the chat for ogle this guy's a

03:28:47.600 fucking legend he's in the chat he's a uh hold on let me he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer

03:28:54.480 that's true he's a pioneer wait what the heck uh thank you ogle wait so uh you

03:29:00.560 lauren okay so all right that's a lot of all right lauren's gonna have to drink most of it

03:29:06.240 that's okay hand that to uh while we're doing that here let me actually let this message come through

03:29:15.440 oh damn has this been waiting for a while chris i'm sorry we just got

03:29:19.920 caught up two hundred dollars schrodinger's feminism a woman is simultaneously a victim and

03:29:26.560 empowered until something happens then she can choose which state benefits her the most

03:29:32.400 that's why she doesn't want women to be drafted

03:29:34.880 what's the question oh no no i'm talking about the question i'm sorry uh chris schrodinger's

03:29:44.480 feminism there you go a woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered until something happens

03:29:49.600 then she can then then she can wait not yet you gotta wait for the cheers

03:29:53.120 what are you doing what are you doing lauren you just blew the whole show you blew it all right

03:29:59.120 it's all right i gotta end the show

03:30:03.440 show's over all right uh no it's all good uh cheers to uh nuclear proliferation

03:30:12.080 i don't even i don't know wait he doesn't have a shot he doesn't have a shot oh wait

03:30:16.880 okay well wait i'll wait i'll wait for the cheers

03:30:18.720 uh but chris said trodinger's feminism a woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered

03:30:23.920 until something happens then she can choose which state benefits her the most that's why

03:30:27.920 she doesn't want women to be drafted oh okay oh my wife puts a little uh little cherry now

03:30:33.840 oh nice oh nice oh that was quick salute cheers like it's it's treats for irish drunks right

03:30:41.040 because the cherry soaks it it's really quite delicious nice ogle you're a fucking legend

03:30:48.560 sir what do you drink and legend okay vodka for me all right uh let's see here so here's what

03:30:57.040 happened i'll tell you why very quick story the reason i drink vodka instead of the traditional

03:31:02.800 irishman's drink which is whiskey because i'm half english the official foot or the official headwear

03:31:08.800 of the irish is the english boot or at least so i'm so told right so what what happens is if you mix

03:31:14.720 the english tenacity for oppression with the irish of just wanting to fight for no particular reason

03:31:22.720 uh you end up with one confused motherfucker and i am and that's why i end up with vodka instead

03:31:27.120 of whiskey do you drink irish car bombs all the time okay i went in one time into an irish bar and

03:31:33.360 asked for an irish car bomb and the chick told me that i was being racist she said how would you feel

03:31:37.920 how would you feel if i went to your country and asked you for a 911 and i said sounds delicious

03:31:42.640 what's in it and then they threw oh i've heard about that some people get kicked out for certain

03:31:46.960 drinks there's other drinks too yeah um christ is lord andrew what sect of christianity was the thief

03:31:51.840 on the cross the thief came to salvation simply by repentant heart through his faith christ alone

03:31:58.560 saves not sex of christianity do you a quick response to this yeah i wouldn't make a salvific claim

03:32:05.360 however the reason the thief on the cross was saved through the faith in jesus christ he also

03:32:12.560 accepted all doctrines of christ right then and there all of them that's what salvation meant

03:32:18.640 and means today the idea that you can have these heretics running around giving off false doctrine all

03:32:25.520 the time for the purpose of everything from self-glorification to their machinations in society

03:32:31.760 um is the opposite of what the thief on the cross was which was humble submission to jesus christ

03:32:39.040 and the acceptance of all doctrines of him all right thank you for uh that message there uh christ is

03:32:46.640 lord that that was his username thank you man appreciate it all right also also that's not good enough

03:32:51.440 right christ is god right christ is god and let's see we have uh you know what we need to do uh stifler

03:32:59.440 ask everyone to rate their own actually wait before we do that hold on uh i wanted to kind of wrap up

03:33:04.800 on you know we spend a lot of time on this i just had a couple things here andrew and i wanted to get

03:33:12.160 your thoughts on this so andrew woman uh the wife needs to be submissive obey right but are there and

03:33:20.320 look i know for example like this would be the extreme argument if the husband says well i want you to

03:33:25.680 jump off a bridge of course you would agree that that would not be a situation in which a woman

03:33:31.760 should be submissive or obey of course not right um but that would be irrational yeah yeah but how far

03:33:39.680 like that's an extreme example but along those lines of like what would be the most like the strongest

03:33:47.520 argument in that example for example let me ask you this um and and if it contradicted your own

03:33:56.240 world view so let's say you were i'm trying to think of the best example so you are analyzing

03:34:04.880 a orthodox man orthodox woman christian and the wife wants to homeschool and let me andrew my

03:34:14.480 understanding you're in favor of homeschooling you think it's superior right so the wife wants

03:34:20.720 sure the wife wants to homeschool the kids but the husband and i don't think that this would necessarily

03:34:27.680 be uh anywhere near approaching a husband saying jump off a bridge the husband's like no i prefer the

03:34:35.440 kids to go to public school but the wife is like well no uh well not saying no but she's like well

03:34:43.680 hold on uh i want to homeschool the kids as the wife but the husband's saying no we're going to

03:34:50.240 send them to public school in that situation while women ought to be submissive and obey their husbands

03:34:58.080 but you would agree that the wife is right i assume um yeah what would you say in that i would agree

03:35:04.080 that she's factually correct and he would be factually incorrect but what would you say in that

03:35:08.960 situation what should the i guess so i'll answer both of these questions because they're an answer

03:35:14.800 to each other god's nature is non-contradictory and unchanging for god is the logos logic is also

03:35:23.040 part of god's nature reason must comport to logic so if somebody asks you to jump off a bridge does not

03:35:29.520 comport to reason and so therefore you don't jump off the bridge this would be a sign of the satanic in

03:35:35.040 fact it doesn't comport to the nature of god so that's answer one when it comes to the idea that

03:35:40.960 uh a woman and husband could disagree and the woman can be right this does happen of course it happens

03:35:46.560 especially let's take the homeschool example i would even say she was correct right however is what

03:35:52.320 he's asking comporting with reason yeah it comports to reason to say we want to send your kids to a

03:35:57.520 public school things like that she does still need to submit to his will now in this case you have

03:36:02.880 children you have family you have other things this is why i think the ecclesiastical authority

03:36:07.440 of the church is so important in having a church body for support they can still go to the body of

03:36:13.360 the church to ask for assistance in making those kind of great decisions on behalf of their family

03:36:18.800 if they have that kind of dispute which is going on the church may still say you need to submit to your

03:36:24.400 husband's authority and rightfully so but at least there's a body of support there that secularists

03:36:29.520 don't even have they don't even have it it's like so you already have a superior uh way of living

03:36:35.360 immediately that uh that secularists don't even have access to so it's like uh in this particular

03:36:40.720 case you can still go to the body of the church and ask for assistance and this is done daily by the

03:36:46.320 way done daily and by the way inside of orthodoxy for instance or catholicism your priest think of your

03:36:52.480 priest like an assignment to you as a spiritual father that's what they are their job all day and night

03:36:58.880 is to pray for you assist you help you in those big life decisions and assist you towards the

03:37:04.880 things that it is that you're trying to gravitate towards in life and what's so interesting about

03:37:09.600 it for instance when my father-in-law he was literally on his deathbed my i called my priest

03:37:14.880 at 3 a.m and left him a message and he was at the hospital 40 minutes later right i was like you might

03:37:20.000 have to come down here and do the last rites i'm sorry to call you so late he showed up with red eyes

03:37:25.920 right it's completely exhausted had to go to work himself in a couple hours right and said well i'm

03:37:31.760 here right and whatever you guys need that is a form of structure that you don't see often in that

03:37:38.320 that secularists have access to so it's like that's what that sort of ecclesiastical authority is

03:37:43.440 necessary and i understand i understand the conflict that you bring up but i think still ultimately

03:37:48.960 absent that absent that ecclesiastical authority she does need to submit to his authority she does

03:37:55.520 okay got it yeah yeah i was just curious in a situation like that where uh you would be like

03:38:04.720 you would side with the woman in this case but it's not some extreme example like jump off a bridge

03:38:11.680 it's just something like that even that doesn't comport to reason right yeah that just doesn't

03:38:17.200 comport to reason it has to comport to reason otherwise you're violating the very nature of

03:38:21.760 christian ethics immediately got it okay that's just asking like um if any time somebody would ask you

03:38:28.640 to violate christian ethics themselves your obligation then is actually to resist got it it's

03:38:34.880 they immediately resist okay all right um we're gonna get to stifler ask everyone to rate their

03:38:41.760 own looks on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with you go ahead damn that kind of

03:38:46.480 sucks i was gonna say seven um i would say in my own head i believe i'm a 10 i feel like every woman

03:38:52.880 should believe they're a 10 but i honestly i just i would say i'm a 10 but okay all and you said all

03:39:00.640 women should believe their 10s yeah just in their own thought yeah but to society to what about men

03:39:06.880 should all men believe their 10s yeah if they think so they think that they have like a good

03:39:11.520 leadership they have a good so there's no room for self-improvement and you think that's good no

03:39:15.760 you're always good for self-improvement but 10 means there's no room for looks looks yeah even looks

03:39:22.720 still there's always room for improvement yeah but what are we improving like what are you talking about

03:39:28.400 like makeup or what no you could improve your health that improves your appearance men can

03:39:33.840 improve their physique that improves their appearance like gym yeah so okay yeah um but

03:39:40.880 but i'm a 10 now and i'm a 10 later when i have abs both men and women should view themselves as

03:39:45.600 yes okay what about you uh rate your looks on a scale of one to ten i just don't believe worth

03:39:50.640 is defined in numbers so it's not something i do or believe in okay well let's test this uh

03:39:55.520 would you date a dwarf i was i was attracted to him and he met my standards are you typically

03:40:03.120 attracted to dwarves i haven't met that many so would it be would it be your preference to date

03:40:10.080 like a guy who's physically fit and six foot one or a guy who's four foot nine my preference would be

03:40:16.400 the first but i'm just why i don't i don't think it needs to be quantified in numbers i think i mean

03:40:21.840 height is intrinsic intrinsic worth and it goes outside of just physical i just think it's vain

03:40:27.440 to one through ten well it wouldn't it be vain for you to not date somebody as a dwarf technically if

03:40:33.440 i had to face that decision then yes but i'm not in that case but i mean you're you're you are making

03:40:38.400 an assessment of somebody on the numerical measurement someone's height it's literally a numerical

03:40:43.840 measurement um it's kind of just trying to reconcile the whole you can't make an assessment on

03:40:52.640 looks but i i'm just saying that i am 100 happy with my looks and if people want to use numerical

03:40:59.440 values to gauge that on me or anybody else that's fine that's just not a standard that i i hold to i

03:41:04.880 understand what you're saying about the dwarf and you know who would you pick this or that but i just

03:41:10.320 think it's kind of um it's not reasonable and it's not something accurate what's unreasonable about

03:41:17.920 being able to make like a determination like let me ask you this do you can you look at two people

03:41:24.640 and it could be two women it can be two men whatever it is and can you make a determination

03:41:29.680 as to if one is more attractive than the other yes that's just personal preference but that would be

03:41:35.120 so okay but we can start rank ordering so if i give you 10 10 people you could start maybe ranking

03:41:41.120 them in terms of okay this he's most attractive next next next next next but that's just not like

03:41:46.800 a belief system that i choose to like apply to so technically yeah i could i could sort them all but

03:41:52.240 i just don't do that well i mean it's it's not even something that is proactively done it's just

03:41:59.920 automatically happening that is the nature of physical attraction maybe i mean i are you not

03:42:07.840 physically gross um are you not physically attracted or do you not find men physically attractive

03:42:14.160 like you do you don't because some women are like i'm uh what's sapiosexual and i only care it's

03:42:21.360 bullshit but i only care about their brain and stuff and their values or whatever it's like okay everybody

03:42:27.280 i it's it makes it's very hard for me to believe that someone's can't make determinations on looks

03:42:34.160 i could make a determination but the overall like factor and consideration of choosing one person

03:42:39.600 over another is just such a bigger consideration because not only is it into physical visual physical

03:42:45.280 preference it goes so far beyond that moral character i think if we were just going off that all the

03:42:50.480 time yeah no i i agree that there's things that are that are more important and there's other factors to

03:42:56.480 how uh what we care about when it comes to who we want to partner with uh but i think downplaying

03:43:04.480 the fact that uh physical appearance and attraction are fairly important here uh i mean unreasonable

03:43:12.800 um okay so but just to be clear you don't care about physical attract like you you don't care about

03:43:21.280 looks in a man i don't care about quantifying it in numbers and sorting people into boxes i just don't

03:43:26.480 think it's okay why why would it not be okay because every person has innate value and i'm not disputing

03:43:34.000 that whatsoever but um but you i i'm it would be fair to say that you would prefer to date somebody

03:43:48.080 who's physically attractive that i'm attracted to yes and that can so you're sorting them into a box

03:43:53.040 though yeah yeah but it's not a numerical rate sheet of oh that person's in that category and i'm here and

03:44:00.160 they're there but yeah i'm attracted to a person well i mean now you're sugarcoating it's like okay

03:44:05.280 well i'm not doing this i'm not assigning a number to it but like what you're actually doing when if

03:44:10.560 you see like let's say you're in a room and you see 10 men and you're gonna be you're gonna make

03:44:16.720 determinations in your brain like this one's the most physically attractive this one's the least

03:44:21.760 physically attractive you're doing it anyways yeah and that's that's fair i'm we all do it in our heads

03:44:28.640 we sort things um but it's just not like a value system that i would choose to share on this

03:44:33.760 platform like i don't want to do that is it is it because you're a 10 is it because you think you're

03:44:40.560 a 10 you can just you want to say you're a 10 it's okay i won't be upset once you could all right um

03:44:48.720 um uh okay uh do you have any racial preferences like would you only date a white guy no i don't

03:44:58.800 have any you really yeah you'll date like an indian guy asian guy you're you've dated two guys right

03:45:06.560 what uh were they both white no the last one was middle eastern middle eastern okay so one one white

03:45:12.480 guy though and one middle eastern guy okay hispanic no racial preferences no okay no how tall was your

03:45:21.120 last boyfriend six foot what about the boyfriend before that six three ah interesting now that we

03:45:28.720 start to uncover the truth here so the average male heights five ten of the two boyfriends you've had

03:45:34.160 one of them is in the one percentile of men six three the other is like i think the top 10 top 15

03:45:40.240 percent of men uh how tall are you five six five six right uh so it's interesting to me that you say

03:45:47.360 you would date a short guy i've dated but you've dated of the two men okay but of the two men you

03:45:52.880 had long-term relationships with both of them are above average height that's kind of interesting

03:45:59.040 but you don't really care i don't care about it women say this i'm not really interested in what women

03:46:04.800 say i look at what they do in your case you dated two men that are one of which is

03:46:10.080 well above the average male height and six foot is uh there's a higher proportion of men that fall

03:46:15.520 under uh six feet but there's two men that pursued me and they happen to be over six feet what okay wait

03:46:21.840 so just to be clear wait they happen to be under six feet they happen to be six feet six foot wait

03:46:29.120 but are those the only two men who have ever pursued you in your entire life no okay i don't yeah okay cool

03:46:35.680 they you're just saying i'm looking at a what a woman does but the men that you ended up in

03:46:42.000 relationships with happen to be six feet and six foot three yeah okay so you don't care about height

03:46:51.120 but look i mean it it doesn't necessarily disprove it but it's convenient that you say you don't care

03:46:58.400 about height you don't care about looks but these are like like 99 one of the guys is like 99 percentile

03:47:06.240 one to ten to that i'm not saying i disagree with the notion entirely that would be absurd

03:47:11.440 but rating it on a scale of one to ten or i only date guys that are over six one okay how about this

03:47:17.280 um who do you think is the most beautiful woman in the world

03:47:22.080 and you can be like uh it doesn't have to be like right now it could be megan fox when she was 20 or

03:47:27.360 something i don't know how about this who's like a very beautiful woman who you think is like top

03:47:36.800 tier um lily james lily do you think you're as attractive as her no physically attractive okay

03:47:52.000 all right well um don't think you're gonna give an answer so what about you um i uh i think that i

03:47:59.920 mean first of all i think that uh in the eyes of the world it's subjective um in the eyes of god

03:48:04.560 we're all tens but i think from a worldly standard i'm like an average person probably say i'm a six

03:48:10.800 okay but that's what i was trying to say earlier wait hold on true true that's what i'm no no not

03:48:16.400 but like yeah in the eyes of everybody else yeah you should think you're a ten but with society norms

03:48:25.520 is they're gonna be like but it is like how she said personal preference because i could be like

03:48:29.920 well i like them i like these and there's those shallow people that are like oh i will only date

03:48:35.440 these type of people or these type of categories so it's just like uh doesn't matter at the end of

03:48:40.480 the day you should just care what you think you are all right well i'll get into that in a bit but

03:48:45.680 um what about you um i agree with her in a lot of ways like i think quantifying it just

03:48:53.520 i mean it's kind of you know but like but again everybody does have the um like they i mean their

03:49:02.080 own personal preferences right like what i think is gonna be different than what you think but i mean

03:49:06.560 just for the sake of time i would just say like i would just say like i would say an eight since i

03:49:13.120 can't say seven but i would have gone with seven okay sure all right what about you do you want the

03:49:18.560 two second answer the ten seconds two seconds two seconds so um eight okay okay six all right 3.7

03:49:28.000 three point seven all right i guess i would live more towards six than i would eight so okay i give

03:49:34.800 myself a five andrew what about you well i mean in the face of all these high numbers how could i be

03:49:42.160 anything less than a ten it's true wait wait why are you laughing you don't believe me

03:49:50.240 all right god's eyes you're a ten so yeah see i'm a ten so so you just so then i guess the rating

03:49:56.800 system just means nothing i have a question so um there's a different question for guys i i've been

03:50:05.920 told you know i mean i've been in the adult entertainment industry for a long time and some

03:50:10.640 people have said to me they're like lauren you're not a beautiful woman but you're a cute woman what

03:50:15.120 is that like that that's what i'm kind of like that's why i rate like an eight or like a 7.5 sometimes

03:50:20.480 because i think that there's a difference between beauty and a woman and cuteness like it's it's

03:50:25.760 it seems to be that's the answer and i don't know really what these men see but that's what the

03:50:32.000 answer i have got they see the same thing that you see they say you're say these here i'll explain

03:50:36.400 when you say uh people say this ridiculous all the time yeah you're not beautiful but cute

03:50:41.440 beauty is subjective it's like no it's not right the same woman and the same man basically anywhere

03:50:47.680 in the world who looks at a person who has a hunchback and they're missing their teeth

03:50:52.480 right and they have like burn marks on their face mark marks and shit like that they pretty

03:50:56.960 universally are like uh no why because you're talking about ideas of reproduction yeah right

03:51:03.360 attraction is based around ideas of reproduction if you wonder why it is that men are attracted to

03:51:08.960 youthful looking women so what is it's because they're attracted to the ideas of reproduction

03:51:14.400 attraction wouldn't even exist except to assist with reproduction right that's what the whole point of

03:51:18.800 it is question though so also hang on hang on okay let me finish and then you can ask the question i

03:51:23.120 think that's fair so ultimately it just comes down to this there are actually objective beauty standards

03:51:29.840 and youthfulness you're going to be looking for things like a um i think disney used to kind of

03:51:36.000 really promote this quite a bit right the healthy looking woman somewhat hourglass shaped right hourglass

03:51:41.920 shape very symmetrical features right um and a very healthy look about a robust healthy look

03:51:48.720 um and these are universals these aren't just subjective features right these are things almost

03:51:54.800 all of us this is why i think women and men will often look at women and be like wow she's beautiful

03:51:59.920 both of us can make the same assessment that's a beautiful woman because we still understand what the

03:52:05.120 attractive levels are between the inner sexes right my my yeah and i i understand that and i guess my

03:52:11.920 question is is what does guys mean by when they say you're lauren you're not a beautiful woman but

03:52:16.160 you're a cute woman what does that mean and i i've heard that a few times like i'm talking like over 15

03:52:21.760 times it makes you feel like a puppy so i just don't know what it means it means that you ain't jennifer

03:52:26.800 love hewitt in the 90s but they'd bang you okay i get that that's what it means like i got that no

03:52:34.080 bullshit no nonsense you ain't 90s jennifer love hewitt but they'd bang you that's what they say

03:52:39.360 you're cute thank you that's that's what we wanted you're welcome

03:52:44.480 oh by the way we're getting some pizza that's coming soon we need a little need a little pizza

03:52:49.440 break um so you said women should just think they're tens yeah but i think men should think that

03:52:55.200 too wait can you just maybe and i think that men that i think everybody should think that though

03:53:00.160 wait are you wearing a cross i thought you weren't christian what the fuck is that just like an

03:53:03.680 accessory no no it's just uh well my grandpa gave it to me oh okay all right sure all right um so

03:53:12.160 okay men should think that too i think there's a difference though uh and here's why so

03:53:19.120 as men we get rejected instantaneously if i step to a girl that's outside my league

03:53:26.800 i'm not getting anything i'm not getting a conversation i'm not getting her phone number

03:53:30.640 i mean look maybe she gives the phone number but it's a fake number whatever

03:53:34.800 i don't get anything i don't get a date i don't get uh i don't get i don't get sex you don't get

03:53:42.080 anything as a man if you step to somebody outside your league the same can't be said for women women

03:53:48.080 if you step to men outside your league men will be like oh okay cool i'll have sex with her

03:53:55.200 and they might have sex with you once twice three times they might have keep you in a friends with

03:54:00.160 benefits situation they might even keep keep you around for three six nine months but in the back

03:54:06.640 of their head you're never getting commitment from that guy because they they're just keeping you

03:54:11.280 around for sex and maybe you have a pleasant personality and you do things for him you know chores

03:54:17.040 whatever you help him or you're doing all the things that you you know make your yourself more

03:54:22.320 appealing to men but on the sole basis of your physical appearance he's already put you in a

03:54:28.400 category of just on the basis of her looks alone i don't want a relationship with her now i'm not saying

03:54:34.560 that this is right i'm i'm talking descriptively it happens yeah i'm talking descriptively about what

03:54:40.160 happens this is what where you hear women complaining about men not committing when you hear men

03:54:44.400 uh women complaining about situationships women have access to men that are and you might not

03:54:52.800 think it's the case but if you're not getting commitment from the guy it's the case most likely

03:54:58.720 although look there's guys who are you could be dealing in your genuine league and they just they're

03:55:04.240 playing the field right so you could be in the dude's league and he's just playing the field you're not

03:55:08.480 going to get commitment even if you're on his level right but there's a lot of women y'all have sexual

03:55:13.760 access to men that are outside of your league that's why an average 20 year old girl can deal with a

03:55:19.440 famous musician actor athlete but it doesn't really work the way like there's not uh there's not like

03:55:27.920 20 year old college guys that can slide into like a famous female musicians dms and she's going to fly

03:55:33.360 him out and fuck him like it doesn't happen but the reverse happens all the time so you women and

03:55:38.960 it doesn't even have to be a famous guy it could just be like he's really good looking or whatever

03:55:42.240 it is right you can get sexual access to him you can't and you can't get a relationship out of him

03:55:50.800 right and this is why for example if i can sleep with a girl i have a very high confidence level i can

03:55:56.400 get her into a relationship extremely high confidence level but not all the look doesn't happen all the

03:56:01.920 time but very confident i can get into a relationship but i'd like the women here to

03:56:05.760 think about this and i know some of you aren't particularly sexually active some of you are

03:56:10.160 virgins but maybe you specifically have you ever been able to sleep with a guy but you weren't able

03:56:16.960 to get him into a relationship i don't sleep with just i guess look i'm not saying but yeah i have

03:56:25.200 hundreds of men not me myself but i have heard about those situations like through friends and

03:56:29.120 everything yeah i do get it but then i don't want to be like the shitty friend but i tell my friends

03:56:34.640 like why are you sleeping with people that don't want to commit to you like once you push that and

03:56:39.760 you're like why can't you commit to me and they give you the blunt answer of i'm just not ready or

03:56:44.720 i just don't want it why are you still sleeping with him that's your self-worth that you're putting

03:56:49.120 under and you're literally like well he doesn't want a commitment but i guess i'll still get my coochie

03:56:53.600 like no like sure so so um i mean but the guy already got sex he got he already got what he

03:57:01.200 wanted you didn't get what you want which is the commitment but you shouldn't sleep with the guy for

03:57:05.920 just commitment i mean that's what women a lot of women do not all women but but let me ask you this

03:57:12.800 here i'll paint a different picture let me ask you guys this let's say a man he could sleep with

03:57:19.360 beautiful women like women who were out of his league and just let's say uh every single day he

03:57:26.240 could sleep with a new woman that was beautiful like really attractive but those women never wanted

03:57:31.840 to be in a relationship with him they just kind of you know maybe they kept him around this average

03:57:36.480 guy or maybe slightly above average they just kept him around for you know are you giving me like a

03:57:42.560 good luck chuck type of situation what the i said are you giving me like a good luck chuck type of

03:57:46.880 situation like they like have you seen the movie good luck chuck yeah yeah yeah yeah i haven't seen

03:57:53.040 okay good luck chuck there i don't know what actor it is but chuck is the guy and someone put like a

03:57:59.360 curse on him a long time ago and basically was like you're never going to find commitment but women

03:58:04.320 are always going to use you to sleep with you and once they sleep with you they're going to get married

03:58:08.000 right after so then in the movie all these girls were like lining up to sleep with him because they

03:58:13.120 were like i need to get married i need to get married obviously you know yeah yeah i mean you

03:58:17.120 have to have seen it yeah his name dave i don't know what his name i don't know yeah but like he's

03:58:21.760 like this weird dentist and like his homie that is his best friend is like a breast augmentation doctor

03:58:27.360 and yeah yeah it's like a 2008 raunchy movie you know and uh i mean i haven't seen the movie but

03:58:35.760 sure whatever so um so you have this guy who all these women who are more attractive than him want

03:58:42.000 to sleep with him or are down to sleep with him and he does sleep with them but he never gets

03:58:47.200 commitment from them meanwhile you got a girl on his level and she wants to be in a relationship with

03:58:53.440 him but he's like wait and he's he'll sleep with them once twice three times maybe he can some of these

03:58:59.600 girls will be do situationship with him maybe some of these girls will you know friends with benefits

03:59:04.400 couple weeks couple months whatever

03:59:09.120 you think that guy who's able to sleep with a beautiful a different beautiful woman every night

03:59:14.400 of the week is going to look at like an average girl who's willing to commit to him and be like

03:59:19.040 oh okay now i want to deal with her no but that's a personal problem like if you're if you're longing for

03:59:26.000 a relationship and all these beautiful women are not giving it to you maybe you're looking in the

03:59:31.040 wrong place but so what i'm what i'm trying to say is that doesn't happen to men that does not happen

03:59:36.160 to men where there's like average dudes who can like sleep with girls who are one two three points

03:59:41.200 more attractive than them that happens to women all the time where women can like be

03:59:48.640 average or below average and get a steady flow of men who are interested in them strictly for sexual

03:59:54.480 access and these men are i'm look i'm not saying it's good for these men to be doing this but it

04:00:01.120 is what it is that's what's happening and so that scenario i just painted that's what's happening to

04:00:07.920 women y'all have access short term to these men who are outside of your league right and then what happens

04:00:17.520 it's a couple things so you have one if you look at the girls instagram you look at all the comments

04:00:22.160 it's all her friends gassing her up oh my god you're so beautiful blah blah blah blah blah that's

04:00:26.400 one uh two you're using makeup and you're using filters and plastic surgery and all these not all

04:00:33.280 women do plastic surgery but all these things to artificially elevate their physical appearance

04:00:39.360 and their own self-perception of how they look uh so women will be like women will assess female

04:00:45.040 attractiveness of themselves or other women really generously and then they assess male attractiveness

04:00:51.360 super harshly for example women will say uh lizzo is beautiful if i called any of you girls here oh

04:00:59.920 my god you look like lizzo i don't think you would take that as a compliment but you'll say

04:01:05.440 she's beautiful uh and then um and then the other thing is you have sexual access to men who are outside

04:01:12.800 of your league and so because of all those factors combined you think y'all think you're more attractive

04:01:18.960 than you're actually you actually are meaning okay i'm this attractive i deserve this caliber of guy

04:01:27.760 then you're going to continuously chase these men who they're like i don't think this is a match

04:01:33.760 but i'll have sex with her she wants to have sex with me and then you look at the guys who are

04:01:38.400 actually on your level and you're like nope not attracted to him even though he's on your level

04:01:45.440 not attracted to him and then some women do this throughout their whole 20s bouncing from

04:01:51.920 dude to dude to dude to dude and then maybe they settle finally in their late 20s 30s

04:01:59.520 and then she resents the dude because he's not as attractive as like the 10 20 30 other guys she's

04:02:06.720 been with but then like why'd she settle well it's not settling but in her mind it's settling but

04:02:12.480 it's because it's just like a moral thing like why why is she going from dude to dude to dude why

04:02:17.600 is she going from dude to dude to dude if we're not okay if we're not thinking about like family and

04:02:22.240 kids if you take like the average male in the united states who's 18 19 20 21 and you say and

04:02:30.240 he's average looking and you're like okay you can fuck girls who are better looking than you

04:02:37.200 every single night of the week and get romantic and sexual attention from them you don't get

04:02:42.640 commitment though but you get that they're gonna be like and then they have that experience and then

04:02:49.280 they finally okay in their late 20s and 30s they're like you know what i want to have kids and

04:02:54.080 settle down and then all of a sudden they can't be uh they're not sexually aroused by their actually

04:03:01.040 equivalent girlfriend they're not attracted to their looks equivalent girlfriend because they've

04:03:07.680 been fucking supermodels for a decade can i add something now i know this is kind of an extreme

04:03:13.680 example but like that's kind of what's happening with women go ahead yeah um yeah the situation you

04:03:19.440 just described does not happen um but it happens in the reverse like you were saying uh with the roles

04:03:25.680 the gender is reversed and i would say it's because men will see a woman who's attractive and use her for

04:03:32.400 you know recreational use not saying it's not saying i agree with that but um he doesn't want that woman

04:03:39.120 caring for his household so he's not going to commit to her now in the reverse women sleep with

04:03:44.960 men who they because there's always the chance that she could get impregnated and it's subconscious

04:03:51.200 it's biological she'll pick a man to sleep with who she's okay with him impregnating her once she's

04:03:56.880 impregnated she becomes very vulnerable and she needs a man to stick around so if she's sleeping with

04:04:02.800 him it's because she wants to be with him now not every time he wants to be with her too too because

04:04:09.360 she might only have her looks and body to offer and he might not want her caring for the household

04:04:16.000 so it's strictly like biological is the reason that that happens to women where men will sleep with her

04:04:23.120 but not commit to her but it doesn't happen in the reverse yeah true true so how does this relate to

04:04:31.440 rating your looks on a scale of one to ten if you have hubris and you have an ego and as a woman

04:04:39.520 like because as a guy i could think i'm a 10 it doesn't matter i could i could think i deserve this

04:04:47.120 caliber of woman as a guy because y'all will reject instantly because you're not gonna for women it's the

04:04:53.200 reverse right as men if we're just looking for casual sex we're gonna deprioritize looks

04:04:59.040 we reprioritize or over prioritize looks when it comes to relationship right but if we're just like

04:05:05.840 trying to have sex with a girl yeah whatever like looks not a big deal they do when they so they

04:05:10.960 over prioritize looks when the relationship happens not okay yeah just to be clear men care about other

04:05:18.160 things besides looks but what i'm saying is when it comes to short-term casual sex men are gonna like

04:05:24.640 they're gonna sleep with a woman who is clearly less attractive than if look if a guy can he'll

04:05:30.160 sleep with a girl who's more attractive or he'll sleep with he'll try to get the most attractive girl

04:05:34.880 he can get yeah but men are willing for short-term sex they will date they will have short-term sex with

04:05:42.240 a girl who's less attractive whereas for women it's the complete reverse if a woman is and not all women are

04:05:49.600 interested in like this but if a woman is inclined towards a casual hookup friends with benefits

04:05:56.160 she goes the reverse way so she's not gonna like oh i'm just gonna have casual sex i'm gonna like

04:06:01.520 lower my look standards it actually has to be like the guy has to be really attractive for her to want to

04:06:08.480 have a casual sexual encounter like if he's really attractive women start breaking their rules when it comes

04:06:13.360 to i want to wait three months i want to i want commitment oh okay i'm not saying all women do

04:06:18.640 this but the more he has to be for a woman to be more willing to a casual sexual encounter he has to

04:06:24.320 be like really attractive like a girl's like well if i'm gonna have casual sex he better be damn good

04:06:30.800 looking guys like but that's also because of like just like society norms and everything like men could

04:06:36.400 sleep with anything like obviously and like when a woman does it it's like so i feel like just because

04:06:41.600 also like women aren't supposed to be having casual sex yeah so i feel like that's when like the woman

04:06:47.760 tries to do that to make themselves better i mean so not my opinion is the point you're but it's like

04:06:53.760 for the short term yeah to be like yeah i know i had casual sex but you know he was a 10 out of 10 and

04:06:59.520 blah blah just because it would not make you feel bad about having casual sex because i hate to say it

04:07:05.440 but like men will always be like you know psp like and they do it they they'll they'll do it with anybody

04:07:11.200 so that's the point but like with a woman and you have casual sex it's the point of being like oh

04:07:16.640 man i'm kind of embarrassed but the fact that now i'm having casual sex it's the fact that he's a

04:07:21.760 fucking supermodel for whatever the fuck you know i agree i think it's like an energy thing yeah like

04:07:27.520 i think correct me if i'm wrong the point you're trying to make is that if all women are deluding

04:07:31.920 themselves into thinking that they're tense they're less likely to actually find a man who's willing to

04:07:36.160 commit to them yes so okay that's kind of bars i know it takes me forever to land the plane here but

04:07:43.760 essentially what i'm saying is is if women aren't realistic about like if you're delusional about it

04:07:50.480 oh okay and you're not gonna like that but if as a woman you're like i'm this good looking i'm a 10 i

04:07:57.280 deserve this caliber of man because i'm a 10 and i'm a you know yeah i'm not gonna find a man to settle

04:08:02.960 down and then but then you're like okay well if that's it's leagues right if you think you're

04:08:10.480 outside of yeah but you're not going to be everybody's cup of tea just like how she was

04:08:13.680 saying sure even people in your own league but the thing is is that uh y'all and here's here's where it

04:08:21.120 gets dangerous is y'all you will chase men outside of your league and you won't get commitment and then

04:08:27.280 but if you're dealing with these men romantically or sexually for a short-term period of time a

04:08:32.320 phenomenon starts to happen so what's going to happen is and i kind of explained it but

04:08:39.760 it's like man okay have you ever had i'm trying to think okay imagine you lived in

04:08:50.080 like a lot like luxurious mansion you live there it's gonna hurt it's gonna sting a bit

04:08:58.400 if you start living in a dorm room with three roommates again right like that's gonna suck

04:09:03.360 and you're sharing a bathroom yeah yeah have you ever shared a bathroom yeah yeah i got my own

04:09:07.520 bathroom yeah you shared have you shared about no yeah yeah so it's like okay as a woman once you've

04:09:15.200 dealt with a certain caliber of dude because you have access to it and the same doesn't apply to men

04:09:21.360 once you've had access to a certain caliber of guy of attractiveness they'll fuck you and then you're

04:09:27.760 gonna be like looking at these other guys and you're you're gonna be like not attract because

04:09:33.120 you think oh man i'm settling but you're not yeah yeah so that's the danger i oh you're a super go go

04:09:40.720 i got wait who wants pizza yeah everybody you want pizza pizza pizza is it pineapple it's pepperoni

04:09:47.840 okay thank god sorry andrew uh okay so no pizza pizza pizza three pizza it's a four five i'm okay

04:09:57.440 wait one two three four okay there we go okay okay i would like to offer this perspective for you

04:10:05.280 instead of encouraging people to delude themselves into thinking that they're tens and there's no room for

04:10:09.680 growth i would say my personal mindset is even though i can be objective about the way that i

04:10:16.400 look it's not everything to me i still you can be happy with or indifferent to your appearance even

04:10:24.080 though you're objectively not a 10 you can also recognize that there are more important things than

04:10:29.520 appearance for example i do want to be attractive to my husband so i go to the gym i eat healthy so that i

04:10:36.000 am but there's more than just my attraction that i have to offer to my husband yeah no definitely and

04:10:41.520 then there's also more important things for example doing things for the lord is much more important

04:10:46.560 than the way you look so instead of deluding yourself into thinking you're a 10 you can recognize

04:10:51.200 that your looks aren't that important yeah and you can also recognize your uh that there's room for

04:10:58.480 improvement yeah i said there was okay so do you agree that that's a better mindset to have

04:11:03.600 instead of deluding yourself yeah i guess but also like the you should just like yourself enough

04:11:09.600 that you think right yeah yeah now i said that i'm not a 10 i in fact said i was a six however no i like

04:11:16.320 myself yeah yeah so you believe you are beautiful right i not the most beautiful in the world i guess but

04:11:25.600 you believe you are beautiful in the eyes of god you are a 10 right yeah everybody yeah i can say that

04:11:32.160 are the same thing no definitely not no objectively i'm not a time objectively i'm not a 10 and that is

04:11:39.360 okay with me yeah there's room for growth and i will do things to grow even with my appearance and

04:11:45.920 my appearance is not the most important thing i would argue that that is a much better much healthier

04:11:50.720 mindset than just deluding yourself into believing you're a 10 i'm happy with the way i look i'm not

04:11:56.080 a 10 does that make sense yeah so have i changed your opinion no okay no i'm like but i respect your

04:12:04.320 opinion all right yeah fair enough yeah is that good pizza this is actually my first meal of the day

04:12:10.960 so yeah girl girl stop stop i tried to do one of those fast diets for the show really okay well i think

04:12:18.320 honestly too because uh i'm like used to like fasting so like i try to fast like just because

04:12:25.200 me internally i have health like gut problems so like i tried to fast and i need to drink like

04:12:30.480 certain things before i get an appetite so like it's not like i'm doing it for looks or for like

04:12:36.800 appearances i'm doing it because i will throw up my food before i eat like if i eat at a certain time

04:12:42.320 i don't care yeah yeah ryan come back and she asked me she asked me you're the host come on give

04:12:49.280 me a question i have uh i'll be right now thank you now you said you said that it was a better

04:12:57.760 healthier mindset than deluding yourself into believing your intent and then you went back

04:13:01.120 and said i have not changed your that's okay if you want to change the subject wait did i miscalculate

04:13:09.200 the pizza okay uh wait so one question for you oh she's getting up okay no the 10 the 10 out of 10

04:13:19.760 beauty i'm kind of curious to hear andrew's opinion on all of this well one one question before we do

04:13:29.680 that um can you tell me a woman who like another woman who you think is a 10 some hike but we're in

04:13:36.320 10 in different leagues she's like in a thousand what wait so but i don't get it the math isn't

04:13:42.240 math and so yeah but it's personal preference so salma hayek yeah but i'm not her 10 huh i'm not

04:13:48.800 her 10. what does that mean i'm a 10 in my own head because to my beauty standard i'm like okay i am

04:13:53.840 beautiful so that's what i'm saying i agree with her but at the end of the day yeah salma hayek is bad

04:13:59.760 uh mary can you um open up another tab google uh google images search salma hayek

04:14:07.360 let's let's never wear makeup yeah

04:14:12.320 all right

04:14:15.280 that's interesting i mean but i mean i'm uh can control mouse wheel up so make it bigger yeah

04:14:23.360 all right this is yeah she's in her 50s right yeah she looks good yeah but but are you saying young

04:14:29.040 salma hayek no i'm saying in general any era okay she looks young type in young salma hayek

04:14:35.840 she was from death till dawn i used to think jesse jane in pirates well jesse jane

04:14:40.560 y'all did you yeah y'all i thought she was so hot salma hayek okay so but like i'm saying she's not

04:14:49.360 bad jenna's personal property looks good so

04:14:54.720 well i'm stuffing my face just just want to be sure we're on the same page here scroll down

04:15:01.280 keep keep going keep going actually show 1997 salma hayek

04:15:15.600 now you don't have to look it up okay all right um here okay everybody knows the only time that

04:15:22.240 that salma hayek was at her most attractive was in from dust till dawn that was it what about jesse

04:15:27.600 jane who is jesse jane from from dawn i have no right that yeah who's jesse jane attractive she's

04:15:33.360 ever been porn star no wait but you seem to object i know you're you're looking at your friend over

04:15:39.840 there no i know you girls think that that's some secret shit that guys don't know when girls make

04:15:44.000 eye contact when girls do they're like yeah we know when you're doing i was saying grown-ups

04:15:49.120 she looks pretty good in grown-ups y'all been looking at each other all night like oh my god

04:15:52.240 like 2010 i can't believe we asked to come on this podcast i also have another question for you

04:15:57.200 if you're a 10 10 meaning no room for improvement and makeup is meant to enhance and improve your looks

04:16:03.360 if you're 10 why are you wearing makeup because i feel like it because i feel like if you want to wear

04:16:10.400 makeup then you can't i mean i'm also not wearing foundation because your skin's going to break out

04:16:16.720 regardless it's part of life like i'm not going to be like oh my god i need a thousand i mean even if

04:16:22.080 i wanted to wear a thousand layers i would still think i'm a 10 then no i'm not objecting to you

04:16:26.560 wearing makeup but if you are a 10 10 means no room for improvement then you would have no need for

04:16:33.920 makeup would it make you feel better if i said i'm a nine so then i could all because i never said

04:16:39.440 i never said there was no room for improvement nope 10 you said you were a 10 10 means you're

04:16:45.280 at the don't feel good there is no room for improvement you are at the top of the list one

04:16:50.000 out of 10 there's no going above 10 so you're at you're always rate me i would give you a good seven

04:16:57.360 points but you should think he's a 10 but in your head yeah but in your head if you think you're a 10

04:17:03.840 i'd be like power to you good job thank you like but also that's what i'm saying it doesn't bother

04:17:10.240 me what other people think they are like if like how how you said lizzo if lizzo thinks that she's a

04:17:16.240 10 i'm not going to go up to her and be like oh my god you're not thinking about this i won't care

04:17:21.200 seven i wouldn't care like i would be like you're still settling for me but like you're still settling

04:17:26.160 for me but can i ask something yeah so just random questions so you wear what you want to wear

04:17:33.280 because you want to wear it right yeah and stuff so would you wear that outfit at home instead of

04:17:37.600 um just yeah girl you should see what i go to the grocery store okay yeah curious i personally i

04:17:44.720 personally believe you should wear whatever you want and you should feel comfortable on whatever

04:17:47.680 you want and i was gonna i could have came in like sweats but it's the fact that they were like

04:17:52.240 hey where's where no in the message in the message it was like you wear this if you would wear it on

04:17:57.920 your and i would this is a going out like a wear something you'd wear to first there's a difference

04:18:01.760 between a going out outfit and a staying in outfit is what you're saying well i mean not really because

04:18:07.200 i would go out on sweats too andrew what's your question yeah help me out here um i'm just just

04:18:13.280 really curious so uh if you're not a 10 you're a nine got it right so are most of the guys that

04:18:20.640 you're going out with then you're dating down no i think that they think that they're 10s too

04:18:25.440 so then okay so it's just based on yeah them thinking it yeah i would but that's what i'm

04:18:32.560 saying i would assume that they would think that they're 10s let me ask you a different question

04:18:36.800 let us pretend hypothetically that you were at a rating seminar where there was going to be a hundred

04:18:44.960 men but i wouldn't be all hundred men and all hundred men were going to rate you from their own

04:18:51.680 subjective experience okay and then we were just going to average what all of them said

04:18:57.520 to come up with an average what do you think the average for you would be based on how all hundred

04:19:03.520 men voted okay so that could have been the question that stifler asked well that was the question he

04:19:10.080 just no he said ask what you think what you are hang on not what other people would think you are

04:19:16.000 without commentary can you answer that question please no i can't honestly you can't answer it

04:19:21.360 because i wouldn't know that their personal preference if i went into that subjectively it

04:19:25.920 could be people that like asian women it could be people that like white women it could be people

04:19:30.560 that like women that are six feet okay it could be so that's what i'm saying it's a personal

04:19:34.560 preference okay we'll make it easy we'll make it easy it's a hundred white mechanics between the

04:19:39.040 ages of 20 and 40. well i don't know their preference that's what i'm saying i let me ask you

04:19:44.320 this if you had to put money on the fact that they would either rate you all rate you a 10 or they

04:19:50.000 wouldn't hang on hang on i wasn't done i wasn't done hang on let me let us finish the exchange she's

04:19:54.160 actually right though i was actually going to bring this up let's say that you had to put a million

04:19:59.120 dollars on you would win a million dollars if you guessed right you would win one million dollars if

04:20:08.080 you guessed right right it's like a game show yeah what would you guess so i would say like a seven but

04:20:15.200 i couldn't say seven because typically didn't say seven he said i couldn't say seven so so they

04:20:20.400 can't say seven hang on so that's part of the game show then i put myself at an eight none of the men

04:20:25.360 can say seven you think okay okay but do all a hundred men have the same preference they have

04:20:32.880 roughly the same preferences yeah um doesn't matter about roughly because at the end of the day

04:20:37.680 they have the same preferences no like we'll quibble we'll quibble over which women which

04:20:42.720 woman is more uh beautiful than another woman but we don't usually quibble over which women are

04:20:46.800 ugly yeah because that's food but it's true we did yeah but it's rude but it's still your own personal

04:20:54.960 thought that you should not share you and your friends you and your friends also may quibble about

04:20:59.920 which women are more pretty than other women but i doubt you and your friends quibble very much

04:21:04.800 about which women are ugly i doubt you quibble very much about it dude ah isn't that the truth

04:21:11.200 isn't it true that you don't really quibble about which ones are ugly only which ones are more

04:21:15.760 beautiful than other beautiful women isn't that the case you'd be surprised yeah yeah no because

04:21:22.320 there's i'm not even gonna lie my friend is kind of mean sisterhood always has no no my friend's kind

04:21:27.680 of mean because like we'll go out of the bar and something and she'll be like oh that bitch is so

04:21:31.280 fucking ugly and i'll be like damn you shouldn't have said that like but that's what i'm saying

04:21:35.680 i don't have the same mindset that she has i don't have the same have said that yeah maybe you that's

04:21:40.720 exactly like i'm saying it's a thought you keep to yourself it was me hang on hang on maybe it was

04:21:44.560 mean but what's she wrong though uh most of the time yeah because i'll look at them and i'm like what

04:21:50.720 the are you talking about like you're just drunk yeah but that's what i'm saying no no that

04:21:56.800 shit-eating grin right now i swear to god oh my god i swear i i will never be like oh my gosh

04:22:03.280 she's so fucking ugly for no reason because it's not my preference it is not my preference hang on

04:22:08.320 hang on listen i'm not talking about no reason i'm saying that when you and your friends assess the

04:22:14.160 valueness of attractiveness you do you don't you probably argue quite a bit about which women have

04:22:20.240 better hair which one's prettier than another one and this type of thing that's fair enough right but

04:22:25.760 do you really quibble that much on an objectively ugly woman or don't you all just go oh shit i

04:22:31.120 yeah she says she's not the most attractive not the most attractive yeah but that's to you exactly

04:22:38.480 and that's why but that's what i'm saying like i really don't care enough exactly yeah but that's

04:22:43.680 what i'm saying i don't care enough about another person that i really have no relation to like never

04:22:50.480 met them do you think i'm gonna care like that girl that my friend called ugly i

04:22:55.600 would literally tell her don't give a fuck about what she says because you don't know her like

04:23:00.080 i'm not gonna show right like i'm not gonna be like oh my god like because at the end of the day

04:23:05.760 i don't care about the people that are not close to me i don't care about the people's opinions that

04:23:10.160 are aren't my parents that aren't my so bullying wouldn't affect you i want to have a no um okay just

04:23:16.880 i just want to point this out that you don't care about your own contradiction here's your

04:23:20.320 contradiction right if you're 10 you're 10 because you feel like a 10. do you and your

04:23:24.400 friends even quibble about who's ugly no it's like yeah because i think you i think everybody

04:23:31.440 should think you're a 10. i just believe that you should like yourself here just to move things on

04:23:35.840 just to move things on uh and i want hopefully some quick answers on this do you think you'll be

04:23:41.360 better looking better looking in 10 years time depends what i do depends if i take care of my health

04:23:47.840 yeah depends if i take care of my health because i mean health is a big thing like how

04:23:52.400 she was saying health is a big thing like if i just all right now all things being equal yeah let's

04:23:56.960 just do i i usually i've stopped doing the standard all things being equal do you think you'll be

04:24:01.840 better looking in 10 years time if i take the time and effort to do so then yeah yeah because okay

04:24:09.040 20 years time uh 45 yeah same thing 30 years time 55 55 i mean obviously i'll start showing age

04:24:17.600 but that's normal like and i i believe that just because you're older you shouldn't think you're

04:24:22.800 ugly and that's the problem with society you can't be mad not even making that argument i think people

04:24:28.000 can be attractive it like there was a whole movie the substance about that you can be attractive at

04:24:32.880 30 40 50 whatever uh the question is though compared to 25 will you be more attractive at 55

04:24:39.440 i guess to myself i mean i have to love myself but it's nobody's personal preferences damn that 55

04:24:47.520 year old cougar i mean to i mean to young men that love cougars i guess i guess okay how about this i'll

04:24:53.280 make it super simple you're in a club and the average age of the men in the club is 35 right so 10 years

04:24:58.560 older than you uh you're in the club at 25 your 55 year old version is also in the club there's 100 men

04:25:05.680 in there do they prefer the 25 year old you or the 55 year old you they're going to prefer the 25

04:25:09.840 year old me because men like women that are younger cool all right uh but to you though i'm just gonna

04:25:16.000 move it on uh you're 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32 right now okay you're 22 better looking

04:25:22.080 in 10 years time at uh 32 uh 20 uh into the mic if you can uh sorry 20 years time at 42 no okay uh you're

04:25:31.840 you're 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32 no okay you're 32 better looking in 10 years time at

04:25:36.880 42 i don't think so but i'm gonna gun for it i'm gonna chop my hair off really short and and have it

04:25:42.880 black and then have a real i already have a look planned for 10 to 20 years out from now and i want

04:25:47.520 short hair with black and i just all right uh and then going back 10 it's fine going back 10 years

04:25:56.480 were you better looking at 22 or now at 32 i'm now better looking now than you were at 22 yeah

04:26:01.840 uh you're 21 better looking in 10 years time at 31 uh no i think these next five years are gonna be

04:26:06.560 my peak okay uh you're 21 better looking in 10 years time at 31 um i don't think i'll look better

04:26:12.560 in 10 years but i think i'll hopefully look better in five okay uh you're 21 better looking in 10 years

04:26:17.760 time at 31 no of course not okay all right i mean pretty reasonable there uh you know what here's

04:26:22.320 what we're gonna do we're gonna do the we have the ai age advancement so we're gonna go through

04:26:27.520 that we have put all of you through ai we're gonna see how you guys look older uh because reasons so

04:26:35.280 uh let's go ahead and pull the first one up

04:26:43.840 i'll pull that up again shout out botox what are these ages yeah what are they

04:26:48.800 ages i want to know like 90 that's a good question yeah that is not 10 years from yeah

04:26:54.320 yeah yeah and i won't have my thing in 10 years but like i want to know like ages wise like that's

04:27:00.400 not so that's probably five years from now depends on how but that's like if i keep smoking and i

04:27:08.640 decide to do drugs and i do exactly uh yeah okay uh next

04:27:19.520 the middle one's not bad what the okay

04:27:26.080 all right i like the way okay next oh no oh my gosh i'm scared for my guys i'm scared

04:27:33.840 oh that's terrible oh wait that's that's that's also cute the middle is sad i don't think that's

04:27:42.320 this is what your future holds really but is she in the last one wait why are your eyes all

04:27:47.760 up in the last one what happened eyebrow going two different directions okay oh my god i'm scared okay

04:27:55.280 wait hold on next oh my god is that ugly that's not bad no that's not bad oh i've seen worse i've seen

04:28:05.040 worse oh my god you picked okay wait i wouldn't wear that madaka makeup at that age no i would have

04:28:10.320 long gray hair and be a hippie chick i'd be a hippie chick with with lululemon okay long gray hair to

04:28:16.160 my butt oh no next okay oh oh i kind of look like my grandma oh

04:28:25.280 all right how bad this is next oh gosh

04:28:32.240 i'm apparently transitioning soon guys i don't know it's cute

04:28:35.680 i feel like you know that's you look so sweet you literally are going to be the sweetest grandma

04:28:40.080 you look like you look like a bitch yours look good i'm gonna be giving no literally you're gonna

04:28:43.840 be the best grandma i would help you across the road i would help you yeah i would help you across

04:28:49.760 the road i need help across the road already i have totaled two cars oh my goodness i feel like

04:28:53.120 two at least i would get at least a fig newton out of the deal if i thought

04:28:58.480 one of those caramel candies like you know i should have brought that for everyone too i should

04:29:03.760 you know what else too you look like one of those grannies who would have the permanent

04:29:07.200 horror look on their face you know whether it's just already

04:29:11.040 i'm gonna be such a fun grandma and whatnot you know what i mean those are the ones you know

04:29:15.120 are gonna give you i'm gonna have the little chihuahuas too you know one of those grannies

04:29:18.240 you look native american all of a sudden

04:29:20.400 yeah i do a little bit like you're an avaher chair

04:29:24.640 is that because her hand is up like that right

04:29:27.360 i didn't get no just the facial i wouldn't even the facial structure is uh you know as a native

04:29:32.400 i agree it is yeah yeah she is yeah i'm a native i agree i agree

04:29:36.800 american yeah i look like a man but it's okay

04:29:40.480 yeah yeah the bones are you you're native american i am native american what tribe uh

04:29:44.960 the wine dot tribe and of oh for that one yeah why i don't know about that one that's cool though

04:29:49.840 it's it's in okahoma yeah oh yeah do they have casinos out there yes they do nice they do

04:29:56.640 nice the chumash here what happened with this uh with this chick earlier anyway oh we're been a

04:30:03.120 great panel i why did she why did she not want to stay on the panel she was nervous yeah yeah she

04:30:08.000 got i think her hands were kind of shaking a little bit i saw it over there i think it was just the

04:30:12.640 setup and i think she wasn't really maybe the cameras prepared for the questions that were going

04:30:17.760 to be asked but i mean you guys all seem to be having a good time it doesn't seem particularly

04:30:22.400 hostile in here this girl she's she was also the youngest one that's here oh yeah she was like

04:30:28.240 what 18 oh yeah she was the youngest yeah she was scared yeah yeah yeah she heard us all say our

04:30:33.760 ages and i think she was like okay yeah she was looking at the camera because she's dead

04:30:37.680 i just don't think she i don't want to be here anymore and you want her to vote and you want

04:30:40.960 her oh i do i do just uh okay next oh no oh i hope you look good you're just good yeah that's

04:30:52.320 sweet that's not bad look cute guys we're gonna be cute little grandma hey leave me alone i'm not

04:30:58.000 getting a cat i'm just saying all right uh next oh this is the girl who rage quit oh hey there you go

04:31:04.000 chad she doesn't look bad wow that's me what do you mean she doesn't look oh wait go back to the

04:31:16.960 other one go back to the the girl um you know it's probably good that she left because if she saw that

04:31:24.480 if she saw this this would have just destroyed her you think she would have rage quit after that

04:31:29.840 yeah oh yeah she would have been gone after this one i don't think we're just trying to walk

04:31:35.360 out yeah we're not rage i don't know that's how that's working for sure it wasn't a rage quit

04:31:40.720 that's just like my just like deep terminology terminology have you had people that go to the

04:31:46.720 bathroom like i'm gonna go to the bathroom and then they just don't come back like they didn't

04:31:49.280 want to rage quit they just say i'm gonna go to the bathroom yeah we've had people who like

04:31:51.760 excuse themselves don't say anything and then just leave it's not a rage quit but it's like how else am

04:31:58.640 i it's a weird it's a walk off they go in the bathroom and do drugs gotta love that yeah

04:32:06.400 happened you know what andrew i need to have uh what's that narcan i need to have narcan in the

04:32:13.360 studio in case there's like residue that's smart through your studio with any sort of like blue

04:32:19.040 light or any sort of anything it's got like i think it's safe i think it's a safe idea in that

04:32:23.760 studio of shit i you know what andrew here's some whatever lore that i've never shared so

04:32:31.120 there's if i collected these items the amount of like fake nails that have popped off

04:32:37.920 like under the tape some girls were like peel that shit under the table oh for sure

04:32:43.600 andrew there's hair the amount of fucking hair left in the studio oh my god ridiculous i'm sorry i

04:32:50.160 shed a lot hair balls there's hair balls in the studio from women uh and then there's fake nails

04:32:56.720 and fake lashes these are the these are the trophies that the women leave me they're trophies yeah you

04:33:03.360 should make a wall then i actually collect them well this makes sense the greatest challenge of the

04:33:09.920 bearded husband is how they can keep their wife's hair out of their beard but that's the greatest

04:33:15.920 challenge period i haven't heard of that how in the world can i ever have a meal again where i

04:33:22.560 there's not like blonde strands which come out of my beard yeah it's true it's true my dad

04:33:30.560 it's because women women are are you know they're short right and like my wife's much shorter than

04:33:35.360 me so always like when i see her in the kitchen stuff like that i'll usually uh you know i'll give

04:33:40.880 her a kiss on the neck or a kiss in the back of the head or a kiss on the forehead or something like

04:33:44.720 that just even in passing right i i just like to do that kind of show so cute it's just it's just

04:33:49.920 impossible it's like it's like velcro right just grabs it just pull it now you don't even know it

04:33:54.800 you don't even know it i'll be sitting there i'll be like playing a video game with my kids

04:34:00.880 just like hanging off and i'm like i'll leave it you know so after every after every kiss do you have

04:34:05.920 to go to the bathroom and like check the mirror and be like i have to make sure i don't know i don't

04:34:08.800 give a shit i just think it's you know but imagine how hard it is for the women because like

04:34:13.120 i can't wear black anymore oh wait wait wait oh i said andrew i have a question andrew i i just got

04:34:18.640 a dm from somebody saying i'm spreader like at two hours ago or one hour ago saying i'm spreading

04:34:24.240 spread oh my god i can't speak it's the champagne i'm i'm a lightweight uh i'm spreading literal russian

04:34:32.320 propaganda what what did did we say anything tonight that was about the ukraine because you talked about

04:34:38.080 yeah oh you said that the that the ukrainians are drafting sometimes by force and they are

04:34:42.880 though another thing yeah but but who cares it's don't you understand that everything a leftist

04:34:48.320 disagrees with is russian propaganda doesn't matter what it is yeah like oh okay so that brian yeah brian

04:34:56.320 are you pro-trump am i pro-trump yeah are you look i got criticisms of the guy but yes

04:35:04.560 well i mean because you're a russian sympathizer oh yes of course because you don't care about the

04:35:13.040 disinfo campaign that happened during his uh first election cycle because you don't care that the

04:35:18.640 only reason we didn't have a first woman president to break the glass ceiling literally rented out a

04:35:23.440 building with a glass ceiling not kidding for her acceptance speech is because of putin brian that's

04:35:30.080 why it's true disinformation disinformation campaign is ridiculous it's true but what's weird is uh i mean

04:35:37.200 there there are videos capturing this that are disseminated by ukrainian citizens a girlfriend will

04:35:44.400 be walking with her boyfriend he gets abducted by the military police there's hundreds of these videos

04:35:51.600 of these ukrainian men being taken for by the military police or whoever it is so i i mean that's just

04:35:59.200 factually true i don't think that whatever you say comrade okay i need i need like that russian

04:36:06.320 national anthem music playing right now uh so wait where were we oh we were doing okay uh next

04:36:15.760 okay i mean you took an old photo of me no beard no beard but okay i'll take it i'll take it next

04:36:24.080 oh look at that okay okay all right andrew looking good you look like uh philosopher

04:36:31.200 oh yeah for sure popular i'm gonna be in the nursing home one day oh yeah i don't know how

04:36:37.600 rachel's gonna feel about that especially if i keep my charming sense of humor and work to go with those

04:36:42.880 roguish old man looks yeah it's not gonna be able to keep their hands off can i add a weird note oh is it

04:36:49.920 like the std rate in nursing homes yes it's so weird what it's so weird apparently it's like

04:36:56.800 really crazy you know why that is you don't want to know why that i i i i'm not even gonna get into

04:37:02.560 appreciate that oh is it like okay well a lot a lot of it has to do with like elder abuse let's put it

04:37:09.040 that one oh wait really that's i thought they were just i thought people were just coming in and

04:37:14.400 that would make a lot of sense just doing it a lot of it has to do elder abuse that's really

04:37:18.480 unfortunate especially a ethnic popular i'm not even gonna get right yeah yeah wow getting wild in

04:37:27.040 there i guess okay uh here let's do the uh i guess the wait hold on uh oh we have uh gender swaps

04:37:38.400 let's do gender swaps yeah would you date yourself wait go back yeah i'll put that would you date

04:37:46.400 yourself as a man yeah low-key first picture second picture you prefer well the first picture is me

04:37:53.440 but well i'm gonna be so honest i but that's a personal preference i love facial hair so the second

04:38:03.280 picture i love facial hair okay yeah yeah all right she did herself all right that's that's good all

04:38:08.720 right if you gave me a goatee solo then maybe i would for sure 10 out of 10 next oh wow

04:38:20.240 would you attractive man wow would you date yourself no i meant to be a woman oh but you look good

04:38:27.680 you know not yourself but like if it would you date that guy and there's no birth defects you look

04:38:36.880 good as both he's a man of god possibly the third but no wait i thought looks hold on i thought

04:38:47.360 all right um next

04:38:49.680 you look like a dj like an ibiza yeah

04:39:15.600 like a mykonos type of dj yeah yeah like a euro yeah exactly like sweden or something would you date

04:39:24.320 the male version of you i don't think so yes i would no i don't think you don't think so you don't

04:39:30.560 think so i don't know not the first picture i think it's just a little creepy what if what if he's like

04:39:34.720 a really he looks really creepy he you know he's a god-fearing man he's a he's also a virgin

04:39:42.000 and he he's nice and treats you well yeah you know i'd give that a go i'll give it a go

04:39:49.760 i'll give it a go yeah not your first pick though right not your first i'll give it a go

04:39:54.000 though all right okay all right next oh my bad uh no i look i don't look like i date i look like i

04:40:01.040 date men right there with the nose piercing and everything like i can't in that picture i look like

04:40:08.240 i would date like a guy he's not bad looking oh yeah he's not bad that's not serious it's not bad

04:40:12.720 but i look like i would date a guy because the nose piercing yeah you wouldn't you wouldn't date

04:40:16.320 him though i wouldn't deal because he'd probably date men or i brought in i'm sorry i wouldn't

04:40:19.920 date him because i probably date he i probably date men in that situation because the nose piercing

04:40:24.080 he would probably date i look gay yeah i look i look yeah because the piercing and the smile and

04:40:29.440 every just everything but let's say he's straight oh straight let me see again we did a test

04:40:34.320 there was a test um no no i i don't think so i think no i think no still no okay super he's

04:40:42.660 like super straight still no no but if i was a guy maybe i did a guy next oh oh that kind of

04:40:50.400 looks like my brother that's crazy that's crazy um and not bad looking he's a decent he looks like

04:41:01.120 that that oh i can't believe i know no that looks like he looks like this tiktoker guy who dated

04:41:05.680 charlie d'amelio's sister oh i think i know yeah do you know who i'm talking about though

04:41:10.960 what's his name noah noah yeah noah cyrus yes i can't believe i even know who that is

04:41:18.200 that was old tiktok i think yeah long that was like five six years ago yeah or something um

04:41:25.380 yeah would you date him if you're single if you're single i he's attractive enough to date yes

04:41:31.540 but he looks like my brother a lot so i probably wouldn't but the attractive level is yes yes okay

04:41:39.740 all right i'm gonna look the exact same as my old lady picture oh okay okay that's not bad that's not

04:41:45.620 bad yeah would you date no i feel like i know someone that looks like a sweetheart yeah he looks

04:41:51.940 actually really nice first of all the hair the one wisp well you gotta be a little charitable with

04:41:57.040 the ai you know no imagine the wisp isn't there i'm not very fit but i do want someone that's very

04:42:02.320 fit and that person does not look fit wait wait hold on can you repeat that one more time i'm not

04:42:07.340 very fit i'm working on it but i would want someone who is fit preference it's a it's one thing i'm

04:42:14.660 working on i i know it's a bad thing i'm working on it i'm working on it genuinely

04:42:19.200 it's okay i'm working on it i'm not happy i had a severe bad depression and i basically didn't

04:42:26.720 leave my house for four months at one point and i got fat and lazy and i'm like oh screw it i'm

04:42:33.400 getting back to working with horses and animals and gonna start working so you want an active

04:42:36.880 lifestyle so you want someone else with an active lifestyle like my personal trainer okay like get up

04:42:40.940 you loser oh probably not but yeah probably to both go to the gym together it's unrealistic just

04:42:47.600 like the bear question it's unrealistic my answer but i also i when you say fit are you talking like

04:42:53.600 chris bumstead or what's his name bum i don't know i don't know who that is c bum he's like bodybuilder

04:42:59.560 super ripped oh no no i'm just wanting someone that can pick me up okay once before or after

04:43:06.320 the weight loss i'm working on the weight loss um before i would prefer he be able to pick me up

04:43:12.920 before so he can actually pick me up when i'm pregnant so you know oh okay okay could you do

04:43:17.720 it with your bad back i do have a bad i'd probably if she asked me to she passed out right now you need

04:43:28.640 to carry her i would probably need to ice my back if i did that

04:43:34.240 so mean right but i get the pregnant thing i get wanting to be picked up when you're pregnant i get

04:43:41.900 that i bails of hay or even like sexy against the wall you can toss bales i'm living on a farm i'm

04:43:48.420 gonna live on a thousand acres okay i live on 400 acres right now and i want horses okay oh so he's

04:43:53.420 gonna have to lead the horses too because it'd be strong and you know the horses they get he has to

04:43:57.220 handle a thousand pound animal i could handle a thousand pound animal so he needs to oh he needs

04:44:01.540 to handle a what thousand pound animal oh you're talking about oh i was on this great show

04:44:13.360 the horses brian you should have more self-esteem just well i'm working on it i know i can improve

04:44:21.480 because what if he what if he just thinks like you know most normal people that horses are assholes

04:44:27.480 oh they're they they are the worst jerks and i have a massive scar on my arm hence the long sleeves

04:44:32.320 from when a horse got kicked wait it bit you oh it rips chunks of muscle out i almost i couldn't even

04:44:37.980 get stitches because it was so big yeah what yeah yeah they're bastards and and you can be dealing

04:44:43.780 with one who's been docile for years and get kicked oh no a thousand percent oh absolutely they're

04:44:47.960 total dicks you have to you have to treat them like a loaded gun basically oh no they are awesome

04:44:51.860 though but you have to treat dogs the same way somewhat ish i got bucked off a horse and it got

04:44:57.520 chased by me well pit bulls you do for instance i'll give you an example beagles are used in medical

04:45:03.020 experimentation because you can do horrible things to them and then they'll come over and lick your

04:45:07.820 hand after oh no no i agree it's just the nature of the dog no i agree i was speaking specifically

04:45:12.180 about pit bulls where you have to be wary about certain things and i don't want to get in the pit bull

04:45:17.000 thing i'm i'm probably gonna ruin my pet store oh i'm with you i don't like pit bulls oh no they're

04:45:23.380 just they're the right the numbers just speak and stuff and it was just stupid to continue breeding

04:45:28.480 them and stuff i don't think they're terrible dogs before before the whole pandemic thing

04:45:34.800 i used to say that pit bull apologists were the anti-vaxxers of the dog community but now that

04:45:42.880 being anti-vaxxers kind of all the rage i can't really make that analogy wait wait brian i've

04:45:50.760 never asked you this did you did you did you take the jabby stabby bro no no no you didn't do it no

04:45:57.440 okay yeah

04:45:59.260 face brian face brian yep um so who on the panel took the jabby stabby show of hands

04:46:07.600 oh am i the only one oh i'm allergic unfortunately i was alert i did have an allergic reaction to it

04:46:13.780 and they had to record it at the cvs and then they had to get the ebby pen and put it in my leg

04:46:17.740 yeah well that's gonna be taking it then which one trust the science i guess i guess not sometimes i

04:46:25.860 wonder trust the science okay um so we're we're talking about horses or animals yes horses pit bulls

04:46:34.600 wait no wait really quick i just want to explore this so you want a fit guy

04:46:38.860 i'm working on being fit myself i actually got a lot of gym equipment i've lost about 10 pounds in

04:46:46.120 the past year which i know isn't a lot i am on medications that make me overweight

04:46:49.700 so i am working on it i'm bipolar so i need these medications oh lord then it doesn't matter how fit

04:46:59.760 you are right like the bipolar thing is oh my god that's the worst red flag i'm sorry

04:47:05.460 i get you that one thing i would recommend even let's say that this chick if you had to take a

04:47:13.400 choice if it was like andrew gun to the head right two beautiful women one who has literally had sex

04:47:20.860 with 500 men or one that has only had sex with 20 men but is bipolar i would still take the one at

04:47:28.260 500 okay it's not bad wait what about the wait andrew worst on earth andrew it's by virgin but

04:47:36.000 bipolar that's great nope and she'll be loyal to you but she's fucking bipolar she won't want she'll

04:47:41.940 cling she'll cling or 100 body count no bipolar just anything that's not by bipolar women like

04:47:50.700 the stories most of the stories that i've heard from men right i've talked to thousands of men all

04:47:56.260 over the world uh just like i do women right and listen to their various kind of horror stories about

04:48:01.220 the opposite sex and this type of thing almost every single time a woman has gone like fucking

04:48:07.540 ape shit to try to annihilate a guy's entire life she has been diagnosed with bpd okay i wasn't diagnosed

04:48:14.400 borderline personality or what is it it's not borderline person or is it it is bipolar bpd bpd

04:48:22.280 different than bipolar but both bad so i have a question well they can be they can be misdiagnosed

04:48:29.160 even though um they're pointing to the same type of phenomenon you know what i mean they're pointing

04:48:35.000 to the same type of thing yeah well i was autistic and they just put me on bipolar w autism well i i feel

04:48:43.300 you andrew because right now i'm actually what's really interesting is so when i was younger like

04:48:47.860 about 21 i think like i was just going through a really weird time people were really mean to me

04:48:52.400 i didn't look like i did now i was going through like a lot of health issues i had acne all over

04:48:58.180 my body all over my face i know you're not a natural beauty i'm not right clothes the right look

04:49:02.260 you can be very striking well so okay i had acne so bad when i talked to people it would break open

04:49:08.160 as i talked to them it was that bad people would insult me for off the street i think that i was just put

04:49:12.940 in a weird situation so i was diagnosed with bipolar and bpd but i'm not kidding i left i know

04:49:20.500 i know but hey hold on i left where i was and those people my life got better now i'm i left the medical

04:49:29.460 um place that invalidated me for my ms because i was diagnosed at another hospital with ms and then

04:49:35.820 this other one refused to and they said you need to have another attack at our hospital so i said you

04:49:40.220 know what i'm just going to get a full mental health evaluate re-evaluation because honestly

04:49:44.360 i think it was the people i was surrounded with i think it was the situ the looking at myself with

04:49:49.260 acne everywhere looking at myself not feeling great i think that had something to do with it so i i have

04:49:55.440 not had any episodes or nothing and at all yes so i genuinely think it was just my life sucked at

04:50:01.400 that point and now it's better so i think re-evaluations after so long i mean well look i'm not i'm not

04:50:09.340 going to argue the point i think they misdiagnosed me i think that 90 percent of psychology is

04:50:15.380 bullshit i agree everything is hang on the thing is like the misdiagnosis yeah of these types of

04:50:21.800 things is over the top right well yeah they kept giving me pills what i'm saying is is that we're

04:50:26.480 pointing to behavioral phenomenon yeah and then trying to give descriptors to it bpd bipolar this and

04:50:32.700 that yeah what i'm pointing to is the behavioral phenomenon of women who are like on a dime

04:50:38.840 and just they you know they just switch yeah mode of them just switches and it's like those women

04:50:45.000 are the fucking worst okay because they don't act with any empathy and what they'll do this is the

04:50:51.000 craziest part they'll annihilate a guy's entire life on a tuesday and then go to over to him on a

04:50:57.120 wednesday like nothing ever happened and that everything should be good and like hey babe how

04:51:01.980 you doing this and that and they're like what the fuck you just burned my whole house down

04:51:05.820 and ruined my car why are you here they're like oh honey don't worry but you know what i mean

04:51:10.360 yeah nutcases nutcases okay don't call me a nutcase who here is diagnosed with a mental illness

04:51:18.360 raise those hands high be proud of your illness your be proud i am be proud but i am going in for

04:51:27.180 an reevaluation what do you got what you got anxiety and depression sweet lydia what you got i don't

04:51:33.380 have anything i didn't raise my hand you got a little anxiety no ocd no psychopathy psychopathy

04:51:43.080 npd no bpd no bipolar no not the above antisocial personality disorder nope anything nothing bipolar

04:51:55.180 nothing okay i have everything well hang on i have one too i have been diagnosed by thousands of

04:52:02.880 women who are not psychologists as having narcissists yeah a lot of yes i've been called

04:52:09.100 a narcissist i've been called a narcissist uh okay so you want to date someone who's mentally ill

04:52:15.840 wait so i have a question i have a question for you andrew so we're not or you don't have a

04:52:20.880 question for him oh i have a question for both of y'all i want to hear that's both of y'all here's

04:52:26.300 my question my question is this do you believe that like someone's life could just be like just

04:52:32.700 tumultuous at some point and they are misdiagnosed by doctors and then all of a sudden like yeah there's

04:52:38.120 a there's actually a famous um i can't think of his name off the top of my head i'm sure chad

04:52:42.180 will correct me and give me a massive l for this i can't because i can't think of his name but

04:52:45.180 he calls it problems in living yeah problems in living he thinks most social forms of anxiety

04:52:51.600 and mental health issues and things like this he thinks that the descriptors are very poor for it

04:52:57.820 that's why we come up with like shit like bpd and blah blah blah which are misdiagnosed constantly

04:53:02.580 nobody ever cures them of anything they put them on pills he says problems in living and that with

04:53:08.020 just subtle changes to your life coping with life itself and getting rid of some people is

04:53:13.860 seem to just kind of stop happening to people isn't that amazing yeah some people just really

04:53:19.400 drag your life down and once you dispose of them like they're literally like your life gets better

04:53:24.100 and you're like wow i'm not penaleo i just was surrounded by weirdos like cool yes yeah yes i

04:53:32.260 genuinely feel like that though which i feel like if i was surrounded by a bunch of women who acted like

04:53:36.740 you did i would probably develop a mentalist

04:53:38.740 that seems great uh here do we have any more for the gender swap do we have anything else for the

04:53:46.160 gender swap next oh okay i didn't see oh uh oh man my husband has raised the bar for my standards

04:53:56.340 because he's so attractive so i don't think so i don't look like sure him next oh it's her

04:54:05.520 he looks wait that looks like a singer oh i thought you said we're about to say down syndrome

04:54:10.560 oh no like one direction or something zaylan malik thomas sass is his name okay you would probably

04:54:18.300 like his literature all right next oh okay oh wow great screen grab there

04:54:25.040 looking like a fucking short bus okay so a tan version and a lighter version i look special there

04:54:32.580 and a hot version okay all right okay andrew looks like basketball player wait the woman basketball

04:54:41.080 player which one the woman i thought you said you looked like a tall black man

04:54:45.620 the woman a female basketball player like it looks like you'd be on the team or something if you

04:54:51.180 yeah you hear that andrew you're on the team the fuck you're she andrew you remind her of a female

04:54:59.220 what basketball is going on here tonight what do you mean look like a female basketball boy

04:55:05.080 is that how they look i don't know i'm waiting on your mcdonald's meal watches female basketball so we

04:55:10.320 wouldn't know right but if they did is that what they look like well like andela reese yes yeah

04:55:15.600 andrew you are just uh you just have a striking resemblance to those female basketball players

04:55:24.560 yeah actually andrew i think you would actually do really well in the wnba

04:55:30.820 like you would you oh yeah yeah men and women sports gotta love it um natalia she says bet

04:55:39.880 they'd quite left on themselves that they were gender swapped on the dating app well put natalia

04:55:44.220 yeah i mean that that's kind of the point of this it's not perfect but uh i think if we lined up

04:55:49.920 a lot of women put them next to their male equivalent uh this doesn't have to be like gender swap it

04:55:55.700 could just be your male equivalent i think not like a lot of women would be kind of mortified be like

04:56:01.060 really that's my that's where i'm at i don't know uh and then bunny rabbit thank you for the

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04:57:04.020 scaredy cat quit i don't know rage not a rage quit but i'm gonna post the bts of that uh on the behind

04:57:13.440 the scenes tab in our discord uh do you have that pulled up yeah it's gonna be uh let me hide this

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04:57:32.960 stream like the video and then stifler says big lady matter okay thank you uh all right like the

04:57:38.920 video guys if you're enjoying the stream so we need to get into uh the questionnaire really quick oops

04:57:43.760 we're not going to linger too long on that but let's see actually first you know what we have a few

04:57:49.360 more things we need to do for the questionnaire uh i wanted to do a quick react can you tell me what

04:57:55.500 is the next thing uh we're actually going to skip the muhammad ali thing um we're gonna do

04:58:01.600 reacts girl reacts what is the girl reacts thing oh i see okay can you pull up the uh i think it's an

04:58:11.000 instagram post from writer can you pull that up yeah uh that's a pretty writing i like a tattoo

04:58:22.160 like that but not like that says that yeah yeah okay i saw you posted this and i was just curious

04:58:27.000 since it's a dating podcast it was just so long ago at the time it's okay blm black square totally

04:58:31.580 get it i didn't post one a lot of girls were upset by that you know what but i had to you know stick to

04:58:36.880 my values not going to post black square if it means i don't get some ladies i'm okay with it

04:58:41.260 anyways uh would you date a police officer uh it just like i'm saying i would if he has like good

04:58:48.020 moral views would you date and they go with my own what if he has at least one incidence of uh police

04:58:53.900 brutality what the fuck no that's a crazy question yeah that's that's a fucking no that's like if you

04:58:58.940 asked me if i would date someone that but there's a guy's a white person though still you it doesn't

04:59:04.320 matter about yeah you it's not just like of the color thing it's the fact of like yeah like no

04:59:09.460 you're still beating them up wrongfully like if you got beat up i would feel bad for you too thank

04:59:15.280 you yeah thank you thank you yeah uh but okay so you would date a police officer yeah depending on

04:59:20.960 if his morals go with mine yeah would you date derek chauvin oh my god i can't believe i don't even

04:59:26.780 know who that is i don't know who that is like there is there is a push to like get trump to give

04:59:33.340 him a pardon who is that derek chauvin george floyd with the um that cop yeah no no these are

04:59:41.560 some i'll know where these spicy questions are coming from bro very spicy andrew's the crucible is

04:59:47.320 loving these questions um they love it yo crucible chat what's up they like it right andrew tell me

04:59:54.500 that tell me your chat are enjoying that crazy questions right maybe not i don't know they they

05:00:01.240 just they just adore them bro they adore just um so would you i said yeah if his morals aligned

05:00:10.160 with mine yeah yeah derek chauvin oh no no i said no to that guy but a cop yes okay what do you date

05:00:17.040 a police police police police police officer hello sorry i can't speak english tonight yes yes okay

05:00:26.980 heck yeah yep my mom was a police officer so probably not no i would not it's just a really

05:00:33.840 dangerous field okay absolutely those uniforms are nice all right if there's any police officers

05:00:41.260 watching who can deal with the bipolar i love autism stuff you know just message me i love police

05:00:46.780 officers i just you know i've seen firsthand and i'm i've had experience so

05:00:50.820 all right okay all right i feel like a lot of police officers out there have dodged a lot of

05:00:59.120 bullets this evening literally or hypothetically i'm not a bullet i'm a bazooka what the fuck

05:01:06.420 bazooka okay uh all right uh what oh the next react oh you got some tiktoks we got react to her

05:01:15.280 tiktoks all right guys we got some tiktoks all right all right she posts some dating related

05:01:20.520 tiktoks i do this okay number one the internet is just the internet like i don't it's not like

05:01:27.380 it's like my i don't put my personal views all the time on the internet it's all it's like rare

05:01:32.140 it's for shits and giggles he he ha ha that's it but go ahead run them back and i can actually

05:01:38.980 show you some pretty good ones okay uh pull it up all right play oh my god i'm never leaving wait

05:01:49.240 just pause it i'm never uh when he cooks me a meal washes the dishes after puts everything away cleans

05:01:55.060 his mess does his own wait you read it you just read it okay does his own laundry doesn't expect

05:02:00.680 me to pay for anything gets me tight to every day and lets me boss him around rubs my feet my back and

05:02:04.760 won't let me go a day without getting my eight what are you there for watch what pull it up one

05:02:12.440 more time okay what cooks you a meal washes the dishes puts everything away cleans his mess does

05:02:19.080 his own laundry he has to pay for everything gets you tea every day you get to boss him around he rubs

05:02:27.780 your feet after you've been bartending for actually i wasn't working he allowed me not to work okay thank

05:02:33.500 yeah clarifying that point but see this was all his like thing that he liked to every day he's got

05:02:37.860 to eat the pussy okay he but he wanted to he would ask he would ask all of these things i would try to

05:02:44.140 cook i would try and i would cook some days and he would get mad just really quick wait just just

05:02:50.960 really quick really quick just one second wait no no that's the that's the ex i actually just broke

05:02:56.440 up with one sec okay hold on no man that sounds like a lot of work and then hold on i gotta play

05:03:02.220 my other noise oh bitch hold these rooms okay go ahead andrew go ahead yeah you're you're not with

05:03:09.060 him anymore are you yeah no no like i'm saying um yeah he didn't it and he fucking rubbed your feet

05:03:15.760 and he did all the eats and he did all the shit you wanted you but he also didn't allow me to do

05:03:20.060 anything for him like he wanted me to be like that so and you left yeah and well i left because

05:03:26.140 i don't think you could respect a man like that i just i biologically i don't think you could hang

05:03:30.960 on so to get this right the nicest guy in the world you fucking left him so i left him because we

05:03:38.400 were just it was amicable a little bit more like shit right no no no no no i i loved it i loved it i

05:03:44.760 loved everything that he did for me and i'm grateful and he was a good man but why did you leave him

05:03:49.120 again uh it was like an amicable thing like we were fighting because uh he truly felt like he

05:03:55.240 wanted to make more money and uh i i feel like how men feel like when they aren't like are not making

05:04:02.640 money like how they used to especially when they're used to making a certain amount of money

05:04:06.520 um they start to get tend to get a little mean and uh i'm a sensitive person like i don't like to

05:04:12.500 be yelled at so when he kind of was yelling at me i was like you've never yelled at me before

05:04:17.100 so maybe we're out of love maybe we're out of touch and he just needed time i needed time and

05:04:22.100 we kept like it was just one of those things that i was like you know what nah so we just like i'm

05:04:26.940 saying it's just the thing of like he he brought it up of the like do you think we need time to just

05:04:33.840 be ourselves i could build my life and that was it like and i mean great man he bought me a car

05:04:41.280 he paid for my apartment like great man great man love him all respect to him and all power to him

05:04:48.360 wherever he is with his life love he did all that and left you uh no like i'm saying it's just like

05:04:53.380 i believe if you're fighting constantly in a relationship there's just something there that

05:04:58.220 it's just either resentment or underlying going and getting you tie tea every day and doing all

05:05:03.380 no no no not necessarily that but like okay not that it had to be something else besides that no

05:05:09.300 yeah because he told me well it came out of his mouth and that's what he said so i'm going to take

05:05:13.280 what his word is because that's what you're going to tell me like i i respected it enough that i was

05:05:19.280 like okay if that's what you say so cool all right like do your business go ahead build your life

05:05:25.260 i guess yeah yeah yeah so i think it's interesting every single time i see these tiktoks from women

05:05:32.760 are like my man does all the laundry and he does all the dishes he does all the housework and he

05:05:38.280 sexually satisfies me and he's so great next time the very next time i talk to him like so you guys

05:05:43.420 still together nope i'm like wow i thought this was like yeah you're always ecstatic you were ecstatic in

05:05:49.680 this video you're like oh my god this is so great not with him yeah and that was like i think i

05:05:55.040 posted that in like 2021 so like we were just getting together and like and that's what i'm

05:05:59.980 saying like he didn't want me to lift a finger he truly believed like i'm a woman i'm dainty yes i

05:06:05.700 can i have to cook i have to clean but he truly found he liked cooking cleaning he would always say

05:06:11.580 would calm him down so i i was like okay if that's your way of calming down like i'll let you because

05:06:17.340 was he doing drugs no no no no i wasn't expecting that okay i mean that's that's really all i had on it

05:06:28.800 it's just uh it's just i just find it ironic you know like i can't falsify it because um there's like

05:06:35.500 there's no way to falsify but uh you know the claim that no no no it was different reasons other than

05:06:41.040 this that yeah but i mean it's our but ultimately all i can do is draw a link between all of the

05:06:47.180 various relationships where women are ecstatic because the man is a domesticated housewife

05:06:52.420 essentially and then the next time you talk to him the relationship's over in fact there was

05:06:58.020 recently um whatever candace remember candace brian had her little like uh yes she had her little

05:07:05.080 like list you get pussy if you fucking take out the garbage twice a week or whatever it is oh chore play

05:07:10.400 chore play yeah yeah chore play yeah yeah yeah and and what didn't wasn't there a recent divorce

05:07:15.920 announced there uh yeah i'm pretty sure aren't they divorcing or something somebody i i got a bunch

05:07:22.680 of dms i got a bunch of dms from people saying yeah they're getting divorced so or he initiated he

05:07:28.740 initiated the divorce i guess i know he initiated it i guess he was tired of having to take out three

05:07:34.620 bags of trash for a blowjob i guess he was pretty tired of it yeah uh let's see here

05:07:40.380 we have pull pull that same one up again though the the tiktok

05:07:44.020 guys like the video if you're enjoying the stream like the video uh pull it up

05:07:54.300 well i had purple hair damn you should have had purple hair tonight

05:07:59.740 no my hair doesn't grow no more so i can't bleach it if i do that you know rip uh damn this is a lot

05:08:06.540 though like i got played in the i'm just gonna play it again go ahead go ahead

05:08:09.400 no man that sounds like a lot of work

05:08:13.580 oh bitch all these rules uh would you uh what if a guy didn't even do that ever though the last part

05:08:22.180 the last part he just didn't just never but would he expect me to give him a blowjob

05:08:28.220 sure why not then sure then no i wouldn't i wouldn't i'd be like what if he didn't though

05:08:34.200 what if he was like fine whatever you don't have to do it but i'm not doing it i'd be like i guess

05:08:39.440 it's not like a deal breaker if the motion in the ocean is great then i guess you know that's fine um

05:08:45.180 next let's do the next uh tick tock oh we got two more two more from her oh boy this one's even

05:08:54.700 this one's a good one i think maybe which one uh go the videos tab for this one

05:09:02.460 cute angle uh play oh my god i thought you were married what happened would cheat on me

05:09:08.780 would spend three hundred dollars in porn every month would steal from me

05:09:15.660 would use the money that he stole from me to go to mexico and go buy zans

05:09:20.220 when he was in mexico he slept with his best friend which was a man

05:09:25.580 beat the out of me crashed two of my cars would try to invite girls over to my house

05:09:32.380 would steal my underwear that was used and sell it online avoided signing divorce papers

05:09:42.140 avoided signing divorce papers so much that he himself

05:09:49.020 left me a note at the end of it saying that it was my fault because i got into a new relationship

05:09:53.180 oh my god um besides just like the daggers in my ears from all the sound effects um

05:10:03.500 you like that it was like yours it was pretty good it was good it was a little much but uh yeah

05:10:09.340 uh wow you've had a lot of interesting and i was only 18 at the time whoa yeah i was only 18

05:10:16.940 at the time and you had all all that wait is that one dude no or that's different dude that's

05:10:22.220 the well no no this was wait that's that was all those things you listed that was one guy that

05:10:26.700 was one guy that was one you were in like a seven-year relationship with yeah you stuck around that

05:10:31.100 long was he like your first i never found out it was so manipulative because uh number one like

05:10:36.460 uh my parents were very like you can't have social media blah blah so i never really got social

05:10:41.260 media and i never thought really the thought of like oh i need to go through my because like

05:10:46.140 i'm saying i'm if i'm getting with someone i'm gonna trust them to the all ands and yeah to the

05:10:51.500 all ands and all deaths you know so i'm gonna trust him so the day i finally went through the

05:10:57.900 phone after years i was like because i i believe i'm not a phone going through it like i guess because

05:11:04.860 i just it's not my business like whatever is in your phone is in your phone um yeah i wish i didn't

05:11:11.260 you know now hang on how long were you with that guy seven seven years okay and then the guy who did

05:11:17.180 all the thai tea tea and i may have right after actually when i was with him he decided my ex-husband

05:11:23.820 decided to himself oh yeah wait ex-husband oh yeah yeah we were married oh okay yeah yeah no i get it

05:11:32.620 i get it but the type that the guy who did all the like fetching your tea and whatever the

05:11:37.420 fuck you wanted and ate the pee and everything yeah that guy yeah what about it with that guy

05:11:44.700 uh since 2021 so we just broke things off because we've been uh on and off for so long that we just

05:11:52.140 broke things off and i was like dude live your life so like uh four and a half years roughly yeah

05:11:56.860 roughly four years yeah yeah so you were with the guy who treated you like absolute

05:12:00.620 shit for way longer than the guy who did everything you wanted yeah but it was also like okay i started

05:12:04.860 dating him in high school and well yeah like high school and he was also two years older than me

05:12:10.860 and yeah so then uh like i'm saying i if i date someone i'm assuming they're a good person and i

05:12:17.260 don't need to go through their phone because and and that's this is what was crazy and that's where i

05:12:21.900 kind of want to say like he kind of gave christians like a bad name because he would always be like the

05:12:26.940 lord made me cheat like and i'd be like no you went out there and you did it like you chose to do that

05:12:33.420 there's no one in your ear telling you you need to be lustful towards a bunch of like to a bunch

05:12:38.860 of women let alone to something that isn't even like so i just was like you know what so then uh

05:12:45.020 yeah i tried uh leaving him obviously and then uh i met the the dude the nice dude you know shout

05:12:50.300 out to the real ex i met the nice dude and then uh he didn't want to divorce me and i kept giving him

05:12:56.940 papers like i would you know you have to pay someone to give your your divorce papers because you can't

05:13:01.900 serve them yourself and uh i swear to god i want to say i spent like 800 in people just going to

05:13:08.940 serve him papers and he would never do it and it was just like if you treated me like this for so long

05:13:14.140 and it sucked too because i was finally like making a name for myself and i kind of had like my own money

05:13:19.420 you know like i just finished school so it was like if something happens like he could take me for 50

05:13:25.420 percent of whatever the hell i have because i'm working so hard now and he became a bum not to say

05:13:31.340 he did become a bum like afterwards but he did like so it's like i truly believe like you shouldn't do

05:13:36.860 that like and whether you're a man or a female and you decide to do that like and you try to just take

05:13:42.780 the easy way out and be like well i'm gonna take 50 percent like i worked for that like i made sure i had

05:13:48.300 that and you made sure you had that and we were when we split up it's not like i was like oh yeah

05:13:53.260 i want the car i want this i want that no i literally was like i just want you to leave me alone

05:13:58.300 like that was all like you didn't have to split up anyway yeah yeah exactly exactly yeah so

05:14:05.980 that was it

05:14:09.260 all right let's see the last tiktok thank you for thank you for sharing that oh yeah i'm gonna

05:14:13.340 share open uh let's do the next one

05:14:20.140 and then video tab for this one oh i think uh maybe mute the audio on this one yeah yeah

05:14:28.060 because it's just music right yeah all right all right go ahead and play front what the

05:14:32.300 all right me trying to figure out why i'm single even though i'm pretty this is the girl this is my

05:14:37.100 ex this is the one that never wanted to leave me alone here go back go back here we're just gonna

05:14:41.340 have wait uh pause right here read it i'm gonna have you read the tweets uh it's text but or text

05:14:49.580 whatever yeah yeah okay remember you wrote this right the blue is yeah the blue is me yeah yeah

05:14:54.220 i was also 19 when i was sending these here switch to window this is mean and i shouldn't have been doing

05:14:59.660 this but but yeah after no but just for now just read it i hope when she slurps you she tastes me

05:15:08.140 what the go ahead play it fucking gross dude next or okay hit play then be prepared to pause

05:15:15.820 okay read this i told you to calm down and let your anger go because it's the fact that you

05:15:21.020 fucked someone's whole couple months up with your bad mouth and you want them to be there for you you

05:15:25.900 must be fucking crazy he went to my job backs around that he went to my job and he tried saying

05:15:31.900 that i was on drugs and everything and i was just like were you on drugs no i was not i ended up having

05:15:35.900 it yeah but i was going into criminology so it was like that's a bad rep you were going you were

05:15:40.860 going to criminology like you definitely weren't doing drugs yeah like come on next yeah go ahead

05:15:45.900 okay uh pause it again you knew the agreement don't play don't play me talk to me when you're ready to

05:15:51.900 stop wasting my time i'm done with your victim shit he was trying to say that oh sure you know exactly

05:15:56.620 next remember your search for being any girl you meet he would say that though because every time

05:16:04.060 he would cheat he'd be like you're you're better but i'll read this i personally feel like nothing's

05:16:09.660 ever going to work out and we're never and we're not good for each other and i just don't ever want

05:16:13.500 to be with you why did you post this like what was the benefit would you ever be with the man who

05:16:20.540 now who spoke to you the way you were speaking to him no but that's also like when you're 19 and 18

05:16:26.860 i feel like you hear so many crazy things and especially like if you've never been cheated on

05:16:31.260 before you don't know the type of like adrenaline is going in your body to just find that out like

05:16:38.140 so i feel like and especially if you've never been cheated on you really can't speak on it because

05:16:41.980 my body was trembling like i couldn't think about it and then like i said was it literally shaking

05:16:46.940 yeah yeah okay how they were saying the girl was i was probably 10 times more than that and then

05:16:52.220 there there wasn't even like you could lie and be like i didn't cheat she's pregnant why are you

05:16:57.820 abusing my table sorry sorry but she was pregnant so you couldn't even say like follow-up question

05:17:03.340 yeah would you ever speak to somebody not follow okay follow-up question would i ever speak to

05:17:07.260 somebody like that now no never okay yeah yeah growth growth growth okay do you want to ask it though

05:17:11.820 because that was well that was it yeah yeah uh here we're gonna move to lydia uh pull up lydia's

05:17:18.380 instagram post sorry i was only 19 all right uh let's go to video tap which one i was never

05:17:28.620 thinking uh let's go ahead and yeah and i was not let me tell you that that year i was looking to have

05:17:33.500 an abortion i'm 34 right now my boyfriend is kind of out of the picture now so i don't really have any

05:17:41.180 support it's a four to five day procedure a needle is inserted through the abdomen and into

05:17:46.700 the fetal heart lidocaine is injected and that will completely numb the fetus after that we inject

05:17:51.740 a medication called digoxin and another medication called kcl which will slow and then stop the fetal

05:17:57.500 heartbeat and then we'll give you a medication called misoprostol misoprostol will sort of induce

05:18:02.700 contraction will assist you in sort of pushing in the induction and then remove all of the products

05:18:08.460 of conception you're definitely going to feel discomfort and cramps that's crazy i've never

05:18:12.300 heard it step myself that's crazy we specialize in later trimester care our doctor is very well

05:18:18.620 versed in what he's doing and he's very good so i'm not like a rare situation y'all help women

05:18:24.220 this late in pregnancy all the time all the time i am looking at you can pause it

05:18:29.580 the product is crazy they called the baby the product

05:18:34.700 for the pro-choicers here do you guys support late-term abortion uh late-term no no unless like

05:18:41.660 it's something crazy like the like the mom is gonna die but in reality i truly feel like that doesn't

05:18:47.340 happen though wait can you just go into the table oh sorry the procedure to save a woman's life in that

05:18:51.500 late pregnancy is a pre-term delivery so they don't have to directly see then that's it yeah but i don't

05:18:55.980 support late okay late turn yeah no late term now when do you think it should be legal uh i feel

05:19:02.060 like as soon as you find out and right away what if you don't find out though because there's crypt

05:19:09.980 cryptic pregnancies but if you don't find out until birth like right you're giving birth yeah

05:19:13.740 can you kill the baby as it oh no i don't think you should yeah it's too late too late after a

05:19:17.740 certain amount of weeks what's the what is like what's the actual thingy i'm not too versed on it

05:19:22.300 but i know that there's like they say you shouldn't do it i know that there depends on

05:19:26.380 the state a development state and yeah it's like a couple maybe like a couple months i'm not quite

05:19:32.060 sure but i just know that there was a certain 25 weeks i believe it is for for what that the fetus

05:19:38.860 can live outside oh 21 weeks is when they can live outside the womb so would you say that that's when

05:19:43.900 you think uh probably before that before it could god if it can live outside then just have it you

05:19:50.860 know like and then give it you know to adoption but but it's yeah if it can live outside just give

05:19:56.140 it a life and then you know do that but if it can't then you know it's early enough we have a

05:20:01.580 question lydia okay so since you're like pro like life and everything do you like go to the foster

05:20:06.460 homes and like help out or like do you go to like the like the kids that have been like born with like

05:20:11.500 drugs like drug abuse parents and like do you like at least do that type of charity work so i actually

05:20:16.700 was pro-choice and became pro-life because of my foster sister because pro-choicers would tell

05:20:21.340 me that she's better off aborted and so i became pro-life in high school realized that abortion is

05:20:27.420 eliminating foster children instead of helping them um and yeah a lot of our pro-life laws actually work

05:20:32.700 to fund and fix the foster care system help pregnancy centers um my pro-life law in north carolina gave

05:20:38.780 millions of dollars towards those things so we do care um but for the record um abortion is the leading

05:20:44.220 cause of death in the history of the world so it's my greatest focus um in my work um but so

05:20:50.300 by the way that's uh that's good work like that's good work that you're doing um and uh i you know

05:20:56.860 wish godspeed and continuing it because it's fucking monstrous did they say 34 weeks 34 weeks yep

05:21:04.540 that is that is just fucking evil um so so to to chair one though uh i gotta ask you a question like

05:21:11.900 let's just say for a second she didn't let's just say for a second she didn't support foster care and

05:21:17.900 she wasn't out you know feeding homeless children or doing any shit like that why in the world would

05:21:23.260 that matter the idea of not being able to kill a 34 week no no obviously the 34 i did say 34 is

05:21:31.420 crazy 34 was crazy not be evil and not also support foster children because she doesn't have time like

05:21:37.740 why would that even be a problem or a contradiction because i think a lot of people when they don't

05:21:41.900 support abortion i mean when they don't support when they support abortion or and they don't

05:21:46.620 support abortion they're just kind of like okay well that's still an unwanted child like so the child's

05:21:51.820 going to feel unwanted wherever it's at and i mean the foster home is like the first place that they

05:21:57.340 go if they don't go to adoption and so that's why i think like they should at least worry outside

05:22:02.140 i just want to let you know that 100 of the babies in the united states put up for adoption

05:22:06.700 are adopted there's 30 couples waiting to adopt for every newborn you just have to get approved

05:22:11.420 yeah yeah i know that's yeah that's that's yeah and the second is it still wouldn't be a contradiction

05:22:16.540 in her worldview even if she didn't now she said she did and i'll take her out of word but even if she

05:22:22.060 didn't there's nothing contradictory about saying hey you're not allowed to murder 34 yeah yeah obviously

05:22:29.100 because i don't want to go support foster kids like there's still no contradiction there i just want to

05:22:33.740 point that out absolutely would you ask uh someone who's working to cure cancer why they haven't

05:22:38.460 helped with diabetes yet it's just something that i focus yeah but that's like stem cells and everything

05:22:42.700 so like you can't well that that's the whole thing is that i'm focused on one thing and i absolutely do

05:22:48.460 care about other things but i don't have to solve every world problem in order to know that killing

05:22:52.780 babies is wrong when when do you think focus on the problems you can solve right when do you think that

05:22:58.380 it should be legal to have an abortion at what stage oh what do you mean stage what stage of

05:23:03.580 pregnancy like ages well i think just barely like before the first like seven weeks ten weeks okay

05:23:09.500 so you're basically pro-life yeah yeah yeah that's what i'm saying i'm not a hater yeah yeah no no

05:23:14.060 definitely yeah i i have no no no no girl i'm super open but that's what i'm saying like 34 that's why

05:23:19.660 i was like 34 weeks is crazy that's like pretty much you're about to deliver like that's insane yeah

05:23:24.380 might as well just go through with it like you already did all the stretching like it was 30 weeks

05:23:28.860 yeah so it's 30 28 yeah and so and it from the very from the very moment of conception 95 of

05:23:35.820 biologists agree that it's a human life it meets all seven characteristics of life you do not have

05:23:40.300 to be a christian to know that killing babies is wrong it's a biological fact as well and so it

05:23:45.500 doesn't matter what stage of development you are in it does not determine your value and no matter

05:23:50.380 when an abortion is performed that is still killing an innocent human being can i add something

05:23:55.100 yeah um first of all if you squash a bald eagle egg you get fined fine like what 250 000

05:24:01.020 what yeah american that's because they're in danger it's because they're in danger

05:24:08.860 you can go to prison so hang on but what they're doing though she makes a valid point right because

05:24:13.180 what they're doing is they're saying well wait this isn't a bald eagle life yet just the potential to

05:24:18.060 be bald eagle life and since the bald eagles are endangered just the potential they will become

05:24:23.980 bald eagles is enough for you to fit the crime of essentially murdering a bald eagle right yeah

05:24:30.060 i've actually uh it's a good point i've never actually heard that argument that's pretty compelling

05:24:36.460 have you heard that one oh yeah i just literally posted it on instagram i just posted it like a

05:24:40.300 couple days ago i'm sorry i didn't know that's pretty compelling i didn't see it you're so cute

05:24:44.860 i've ever heard wow yeah yeah you can go to prison you can go to prison for destroying an eagle egg but

05:24:50.540 it is your right and freedom to kill an innocent child another thing i would like to add is the

05:24:55.260 argument people use against that is oh the egg is separate from the mother well it still needs the

05:24:59.100 mother and the parent to survive and another thing is you guys always not you guys people on the left

05:25:05.420 typically bring up foster system as a abortion should we just go shoot up orphanages i don't

05:25:12.460 think that's right honestly like with the shooting i don't think you should talk about shooting with

05:25:16.460 everything because i mean because of the tos yeah oh sorry loaded language i'm sorry um but what i'm

05:25:23.660 trying to say is i have two adopted sisters and stuff their life is no less valuable than mine because

05:25:30.060 they were chosen not to be kept and stuff and the fact that people they they talk about choosing

05:25:36.540 between an unborn child or a five-year-old or something you're changing you're ignoring the

05:25:40.780 fact that that unborn child has the potential to be that five-year-old it can it could cure cancer

05:25:46.940 we're probably killed the cure for cancer yeah that's a purpose from god the circumstances of your

05:25:51.340 life do not determine your value and back to you i'm curious you said you're a pro-choice would you now

05:25:57.740 say that you're pro-life you um honestly i mean pro-life it to a point and extent just because uh

05:26:06.140 i not gonna like open my book too much but like with essay and stuff you know like i just personally

05:26:12.620 believe like there's some things that just it's sick obviously but it just sucks yeah but yeah that's

05:26:19.180 not that child's fault yeah let me ask you a question yeah would the world be a better or worse place

05:26:25.100 if you had been aborted i don't think the world cares enough about me to really care my question

05:26:31.100 yeah be a better or a worse place neutral do you think neutral so you say your life doesn't matter

05:26:37.820 not that it doesn't matter but there's too many other things in the world going on for my own life

05:26:42.380 i only matter to the people around me yeah so raise your hand if you think that the world would be

05:26:47.260 better a better place if you had been aborted that alone should generally just end the argument

05:26:54.780 right but the thing is is that it doesn't which is insane to me like just the very idea that none of

05:27:01.420 the people who advocate on behalf of abortion think the world be worse if they weren't in it

05:27:06.220 i think that that's insanity right you're eliminating the same potentiality that other people can make

05:27:11.180 impacts in the world on par with yours which are good i i want to address the argument you just

05:27:17.340 brought up in the case of essay it's a terrible thing no pro-lifer ever wants a woman to get

05:27:22.300 pregnant in the situation but abortion does not undo that trauma it may add more trauma because abortion

05:27:27.420 itself is traumatic yeah and if we're not even going to give the death penalty to the horrific person

05:27:32.380 that committed this crime against her why would we give the death penalty to an innocent child for

05:27:36.700 the crimes of their father but then that goes back to i believe the death penalty for anybody that does

05:27:40.700 essay but do you think that that's at the death penalty should be given to an innocent child for

05:27:44.620 the crimes of their father no but i believe it's the woman's choice regardless a choice to do what

05:27:49.260 though to if she wants to keep the baby or not not just abort it that's what i'm saying keep the baby

05:27:54.220 44 percent of women regret their abortions then see then i'm i wish they would have thought it a

05:28:00.140 little bit more through she's got the stats yeah i got the stats but that's what i'm saying i wish you

05:28:04.460 would i wish women would truly think about it because there's i would like exactly i think

05:28:08.620 abigail said it or someone said it but there is some women that like try to joke about it and like

05:28:14.220 try to be like what have you had an abortion no i've actually actually never been pregnant either

05:28:19.660 so yeah she never had an abortion well yeah but i know people that have yeah yeah no no i get it i

05:28:26.220 understand that right but don't you think that a lot of times women have abortions and then feel like

05:28:32.060 there's no going back because they have to endlessly justify it for the rest of their lives

05:28:35.820 yeah but see that's exactly why justify it if you are truly getting you should literally stick it in

05:28:40.860 your brain and be like i have a baby inside me i have a baby inside me this is going to be a baby

05:28:46.940 will i do this to myself and if they are willing to sit there with themselves and be like okay i will

05:28:53.820 do it i will take this then i guess whatever empathy or whatever type of mood and whatever type of

05:29:00.300 emotions they're feeling okay i'm not here i'm not here to confuse someone else's emotions last

05:29:07.100 question i have for you okay what would change your mind on this issue what thing could be said as an

05:29:14.460 argument that if you heard it right would reconcile this in your brain so that it would settle the issue

05:29:21.660 for you what would that be um i think the biggest thing and this is also something i do say too

05:29:28.300 women that have abortions usually cannot conceive a child the same way they did with the first one

05:29:33.820 they usually tend to have problems like complications once you have an abortion there is more risk to

05:29:39.260 your next pregnancy does not answer my question what thing could i do this is the final question

05:29:46.060 believe that this is okay what is that thing and then if i refute that thing will you change your mind

05:29:53.020 on this issue yeah but i just can't think of a thing like that right now you can't think of a thing

05:29:57.820 so you're holding on passionately to an issue no no no i don't even know why you don't even know why

05:30:03.260 no i just know enough like to the point where i mean like i'm saying i don't even i'm not here to

05:30:07.740 tell you though how you feel the stance you have no i know but that exactly but like i'm saying i'm not

05:30:13.820 i'm not a therapist i'm not someone to be like oh my god let me here to convince you to know because it's just somebody else's views i'm not i'm not going to press

05:30:21.660 if i could prove that it was a human being to you would you become pro-life from the moment of

05:30:26.540 conception yeah if my brain could register it yeah but okay every biology textbook says a human

05:30:31.980 life begins at fertilization at fertilization they meet all seven characteristics of life you

05:30:36.060 have your own separate dna everything about you your sex hair color eye color was determined at the

05:30:40.940 moment of conception you were you and you were valuable and you are a human life that deserves equal

05:30:45.180 human rights okay bars it's true it's the same thing with animals oh yeah same thing with animals

05:30:50.380 yeah yeah absolutely wait do you do you agree with her i said okay yeah yeah but so

05:30:57.020 if you said you said if there was a different views i still have different views on different

05:31:01.260 situations but do you say you disagree with science then that it's not a human life there's a lot of

05:31:06.060 science i guess i wouldn't say i disagree on it but wait hold on biology is not a soft science

05:31:11.740 biology is a hard science yeah i have the studies right now if you would like to look at them

05:31:15.500 uh but you guys are gonna waste more time trying to convince me than me trying to learn it on myself

05:31:21.180 on my own but you did you did just say if like this was the standard then it would change your

05:31:25.900 mind on abortion and then she just established that it was yeah and i said but what did i what i said i

05:31:31.180 said if you could and run the clip back i said if you could actually if my brain could process it right

05:31:35.660 now then yeah i will change my mind in 2.3 seconds once you tell me but i'm not if you want to know the

05:31:40.780 anti-women voting argument the main one of irrationality is that women will often hold

05:31:48.620 to stances which are illogical based on emotion and this pure emotion pure fucking emotion no stance

05:31:56.140 based in logic reason no you can't refute a stance based in uh non-rational emotional thinking right

05:32:04.620 and this is why those all those repeal the 19th which by the way again i'm saying i want to limit

05:32:09.980 suffrage for everybody because i just think it's a bad idea that everybody votes in this

05:32:13.660 society i think that's stupid but when it comes to this with chair one like look at the rationality

05:32:19.100 no rationality whatsoever holding to a stance yeah but i hold it to the stance just because

05:32:24.620 of the certain types of topics like i told her it's not like i'm over here like oh my god you should

05:32:29.100 do it at any age at any given weeks but that's it you don't have a rational reason why you hold the

05:32:34.220 stand tell me the rational reason you hold this stance what is it because i believe it's

05:32:39.820 my own body and i should have my own cheese it's not your it's not your body it's a baby's body

05:32:43.580 that's being hurt and killed but it's inside of my body and it will not be procreate it will not be

05:32:48.300 creating without me so a child's dependency on their mother's body to survive is a death sentence

05:32:54.940 no it's not a death sentence because uh a newborn baby also but again then there's those women there's

05:32:59.820 those women that have children and then they're mean as fucking abusive to their children because they

05:33:04.940 never want we're not so they're better off dead mothers we're not forcing anyone to be mothers

05:33:08.780 we just want to hold them accountable yeah but that's pro choice pro choice means you could give

05:33:13.260 your baby up for adoption you could get an abortion or you could keep it that's a choice killing should

05:33:17.660 be a choice though there's three choices yeah it shouldn't be an option just because the baby

05:33:22.780 but it's the fact that it is and the only person that can really tell me something is lydia because

05:33:26.380 she's the only one out there in the government area being like yeah this is what i'm gonna do

05:33:30.140 so until you actually have that on your resume lydia i have a government government specific

05:33:37.100 in the government area i understand that you're a very staunch anti-abortion advocate i have a

05:33:42.780 hypothetical for you for me as yeah for you okay which has been bothersome to me okay i had to think

05:33:49.340 about it for a long time um because it was it was actually difficult for me to reconcile you believe

05:33:55.340 life begins at conception yeah yeah okay so then in in vitro fertilization clinic all of those eggs

05:34:02.540 have been fertilized right yep absolutely so an in vitro fertilization clinic is on fire there's a

05:34:08.300 two-year-old who's in there and he's crying and there's thousands of eggs next to him would you save

05:34:14.700 the thousands of eggs or would you grab the two-year-old if you could only choose one i i don't think

05:34:19.820 it changes the argument and here's why in the titanic when it was sinking they chose to save

05:34:25.740 the women and children first like we talked about earlier does that mean that the men are worth less

05:34:31.100 no absolutely but that but wait there's a rationale behind that which is based around social duty

05:34:37.900 evaluation that you're talking about is equality in life after and before the effect of birth this is

05:34:44.860 the argument for being uh pro-life from your stance so these fertilized eggs have as much ontological

05:34:53.980 value as that two-year-old so justify how it would be that you would grab the two-year-old

05:34:59.740 i don't i don't know what i'd do in that situation but um i think i i think if you had to i i i don't i

05:35:07.020 don't think it at the end of the day first of all we have an emotional response to gravitate towards

05:35:11.740 a screaming two-year-old who can um feel pain has conscious ability to experience what's happening

05:35:18.940 um whereas the two-year-old can't feel pain and he's not crying yeah yeah that might be part of

05:35:25.500 the consideration it still doesn't change the argument though they're still equally valuable

05:35:28.780 for instance if i have my own two-year-old and there's a bunch of other two-year-olds that are

05:35:34.380 not mine in the corner i might be conflicted about who to save doesn't change the argument that they're

05:35:39.580 all equally valuable they're all equally living human beings yeah but i'm not disputing that within

05:35:44.700 the world view they're all equally valuable the dispute comes in as to why the intuition would be

05:35:50.860 for most people to go for the two-year-old yeah i think instead of the eggs right why it would be

05:35:56.700 that most people wouldn't cry over the fat or for instance let me give you an example a nurse carelessly

05:36:02.780 knocks over a bunch of fertilized eggs did she just murder a ton of people i it well accidentally but

05:36:08.540 yes those are i mean that's why the ivf industry is extremely problematic because they're creating

05:36:13.820 all of these millions of babies in embryonic form and then freezing some of them destroying a bunch of

05:36:19.980 them practicing eugenics on them by selecting the ones that are a certain sex or have certain genetic

05:36:27.260 capabilities and that's why the ivf industry is if they knocked over that tray of eggs right fertilized

05:36:34.140 eggs and they all broke would feel in any way the same conditional that they would if they just saw

05:36:39.660 for instance like i don't know 102 year olds get butchered in this yeah i mean it probably wouldn't

05:36:44.220 feel the same way because it doesn't have the same level of experiences you might feel different that's

05:36:48.860 why we can't base the pro-life argument on emotion it's based on uh logic and facts and biology that says

05:36:54.780 it's a human life in the in the womb yeah that's true but intuition also informs what you're when you're

05:37:00.460 talking about moral codes and when you're talking about the ideas of how people interpersonally relate

05:37:05.660 with everything i think it's just because so if intuitively you're like if you asked a person

05:37:11.180 almost any person this question would you rather if you had to choose right 102 year olds get butchered

05:37:18.860 in front of you right or 1000 inseminated eggs get dumped on the ground i think almost every human

05:37:27.020 being you ask that question to is going to choose the eggs getting dumped on the ground right right

05:37:31.580 yeah so it seems to be counterintuitive a bit to the logic now i agree with you by the way 100 agree

05:37:38.380 with you that you you are logically consistent i'm just saying that in this the intuition side is very

05:37:44.220 difficult to logically reconcile absolutely yeah no i think it's because we're kind of hardwired to

05:37:50.220 emotionally respond to a screaming toddler in the way that we do or we can't see we can't see a

05:37:56.220 human and embryonic form to the same degree we can't see the emotion on their face it's harder to

05:38:02.060 empathize with that which is why abortion is so normalized partially because we can't see that

05:38:07.100 baby when people think it's genuinely a clump of cells i mean i who was raised a christian had no idea

05:38:12.860 that abortion was wrong for a while because society has just normalized it so easy to dehumanize them

05:38:18.220 when we can't see them with our own eyes and we can't um empathize as well with it so i mean i i

05:38:23.900 agree with you it's it's difficult um but no it doesn't change their value at the end of the day

05:38:28.300 can i add something i've heard that they're using like aborted babies eggs for ivf do you know if

05:38:33.580 that's true aborted what do you mean by that aborted babies like late-term abortions and they're using

05:38:38.460 their eggs for ivf i've just heard that randomly so so they do a lot of different experiments on aborted

05:38:44.460 babies body parts unfortunately um it's disturbing i have not heard specifically of them somehow creating

05:38:51.420 final final thought goes to abigail go ahead and then i'm moving it on i i do want to know

05:38:57.980 andrew if somebody used the argument that you just asked her to dispute your pro-life argument how

05:39:04.060 would you argue that question that you just well now that would be telling oh man but i want to know

05:39:11.980 all andrew wilson's logical weapons are there for andrew wilson to deploy at the right time against the

05:39:17.740 right person but i did feel that chair three i i felt like giving a little bit because there's

05:39:22.780 nobody else to give any pushback um i think it's fair to push people even that you agree with on

05:39:28.060 their logical consistency and why they think the things that they think there was nobody else here

05:39:32.300 to do it so unfortunately it falls to me to do right um even if i completely agree with the stance

05:39:38.460 right but i've heard tons of compelling uh pro-choice arguments that can be difficult to reconcile

05:39:45.740 you know what i mean like um well there's there's a bunch i could get into but definitely um not

05:39:51.820 going to give you give away the andrew wilson logical weapons destruction today so don't don't you

05:39:58.140 think you should be helping educate people on how to debunk the pro-life art or pro-choice argument

05:40:03.900 of course so it's good to share your knowledge then right i'm curious i want to hear how you

05:40:10.220 your response doesn't mean i'm going to share it with you so the thing is is like i'm going to look

05:40:14.700 it up i think yeah you can ask i think i think you're doing a fantastic job right and when what

05:40:21.740 you're doing and i i mean godspeed to you 100 support from us here at the crucible to you especially

05:40:28.220 calling that calling those people exposing that so that people can see i've heard leftists say this

05:40:34.140 isn't even a thing that happens there is no such thing as late-term abortion you're making it up like

05:40:38.540 i've heard all of that shit so i think what you're doing the lord's work here in this capacity right

05:40:44.300 but when you have nukes you save them for the right moment to drop them where they're the most

05:40:50.060 useful instead of somebody else taking them messing them all up and then the left is ready for them

05:40:54.940 i just don't well what was it a thousand embryo or what was it a thousand you're talking about

05:41:01.260 the burning ivf clinic analogy yeah it was a yeah it's like yeah a thousand uh embryos

05:41:07.020 embryos fertilized embryos versus screaming two-year-olds burning building all right let's

05:41:13.420 see what ai says to this andrew uh-oh ai is usually pro-choice you gotta look into this because

05:41:18.620 somebody's gonna hit you with that question hit me with what the question that he oh the burning ivf

05:41:23.020 but no i always just say that it doesn't matter who you choose to save they're still equally valuable

05:41:26.540 just like it just because you save the women and children first on the titanic came back with

05:41:30.780 the intuition your intuition which is logically consistent but it's unintuitive yeah but that

05:41:36.700 still doesn't take that still doesn't defeat the abortion uh the pro-life stance no i agree but

05:41:43.340 somebody's gonna ask you listen it's not a defeater but you have to understand when you're convinced

05:41:48.140 well and you probably do know this when you're convincing people that right like for instance you were

05:41:53.420 trying to have a logical deductive argument uh based on induction and deductive reasoning with

05:41:59.180 chair one somebody who is passionately emotionally attached to a position they respond to rhetoric often

05:42:06.220 over even logical consistency nobody's refuting that you have a logically consistent stance you most

05:42:12.700 certainly do right but it's are are you convincing people uh through rhetoric who cannot be convinced

05:42:20.540 through logic and this is a weapon deployed by the left often uh rhetorically which stays in the

05:42:27.020 convincing category of people who don't either a have the capacity for logically inductive argumentation

05:42:33.900 or deductive uh or they're just passionate about it from an emotional stance it's like that's the

05:42:39.820 point of rhetoric so socrates pointed out rightfully rhetoric is anything which convinces a person whatever that

05:42:46.540 is that's rhetoric and so um i think it is a powerful rhetorical tool on their side not a powerful

05:42:53.820 logical one and i don't think it debunks you at all yeah yeah absolutely all right uh we have some chats

05:43:00.620 that i need to uh get to uh but you know what i we're gonna do the roast session in a bit guys so we're

05:43:06.220 gonna bump the tts down to 30. um so let's see here yeah we'll do the roast session tts down to 30.

05:43:14.700 what we do for the roast session and then also just what i you know after uh you know a little heavier

05:43:19.980 conversation about abortion uh anybody want a popsicle

05:43:26.220 anybody can we keep talking about abortion instead anybody okay uh i'm gonna let this chat come through

05:43:33.820 we got gloctavius gloctavius donated two hundred dollars thank you perfect is the audio for

05:43:40.060 perfect can you check the audio on the keyboard perfect man for life full perfect man huh no on

05:43:46.860 the keyboard at the very top there's like uh never mind don't okay that's weird uh so going around the

05:43:52.540 table perfect man for life or perfect career for life perfect man perfect man man man man man man

05:44:00.300 okay all right thank you gloctavius for that appreciate it we have dalimar ban abortions

05:44:06.540 ban birth control 65 million dead americans in the 40 years of roe v wade 98.7 percent were for

05:44:12.780 convenience of having sex for fun two generations were gutted on the altar of female choice all right

05:44:19.100 dalimar thank you for the message really appreciate it and then uh i'll let our first roast come through

05:44:25.340 which is oh shit i forgot to change the tts hold on one sec i'll just read brian have you lost weight

05:44:33.740 oh shit here let me i'm gonna fix it uh so guys tts is being lowered to uh 30 dollars 30 29.99

05:44:41.900 if you want to get a roast in get it in we're gonna be doing that we have a couple more things to get

05:44:47.260 through a couple uh reacts and whatnot um there was something from megan kelly which i thought was

05:44:54.300 interesting matt walsh responded andrew i'm pretty sure you weighed in on this a little bit

05:44:59.500 in your uh piers morgan appearance uh i know you usually have an out around this time andrew but

05:45:06.540 you have a few more minutes or do you have to uh you got some more time yeah we're good bro oh awesome

05:45:13.900 okay perfect uh so here let me let that one come through so guys just reminder here we're getting

05:45:19.980 towards the tail end of our stream so if you want send in a roast thirty dollar tts you can roast

05:45:24.700 me you can roast andrew you can roast uh abigail you can roast anybody anybody here that you want to

05:45:30.700 roast you can do it thirty dollar tts oh i feel like it's been a pretty good panel like there's it's

05:45:36.060 really that i mean you should mostly just roast brian right that's probably true it's actually been a

05:45:40.940 pretty good engaging panel i must say yeah you know and it's been a while since i've been

05:45:45.500 uh burrito bombarded as i like to call it you know it's been it's been like half a year six months

05:45:52.140 since the last time they just leaned into me with some burrito memeing so uh but yeah feel free to

05:45:58.620 roast me um uh oh let me let this one come through okay wait is it not oh my goodness i guess i i don't

05:46:08.060 know how to operate my oh here's what happened i know why okay sorry scuffed all right it should

05:46:13.980 go through this time let's see here uh the pseudo master chief chef excuse me thank you master

05:46:19.740 chef donated 29.99 cents brian have you lost weight any strange i need to though i snuck in the

05:46:28.780 studio and put hoes and picking oh wow that's a crime the burrito

05:46:32.540 but all right all right if they send in the i'm not a scumbag i will give you sorry go ahead

05:46:39.100 the champagne pop if they send in the champagne pop i will give the answer to the hypothetical

05:46:44.940 i like it i like it all right beautiful uh okay so a few more notes here uh let's see we did

05:46:54.860 uh you know what yeah let's just go to the megan kelly thing i think that's interesting and it's kind

05:46:59.180 of related to the career versus family conversation we're having earlier go ahead pull that up yes yes

05:47:05.340 please uh we'll go video tab on it guys like the video enjoying the stream uh oh wait is this it

05:47:13.820 uh yeah just let's go ahead and play it here's what's happening right pause it pause it uh go full

05:47:20.540 screen it's that full the far yep all right go ahead young women i and i talk to young conservative

05:47:26.460 women all the time about their lives and their goals and you know the things that they want and

05:47:30.780 what's happening is they can't find men who are maybe more conservative usually they're looking for

05:47:38.860 somebody who is religious you know like they're a lot of conservative women tend to be god god loving

05:47:45.020 uh conservatives and they can't find a lot of young men who want to marry a working woman now

05:47:52.780 this is an actual problem that's that's coming up on the right and to me it's so sad because it's like

05:47:58.060 how do we get to the point where we we're now telling young conservative amazing women that they're

05:48:06.220 not attractive if they also work if they choose to let's say do what i'm doing and what you're doing

05:48:11.900 and like get their voice out there but i'll stick with me just because i think conservatives listening to

05:48:15.900 this will like the thought of another megan kelly voice up and coming well why wouldn't we want that

05:48:23.340 why would we take somebody who's talented in this field and really wants to make a difference and

05:48:27.820 have the messaging to her be you're really not that valuable unless you give it up and go into the home

05:48:34.220 and only have a family and only raise a family and the and not only are we sending her that message

05:48:39.260 but young men are actually believing that they're actually believing especially on the right

05:48:43.740 because like the trad mom has gotten so popular and it's like no if we do that we're not going to

05:48:49.420 have any strong conservative or right-leaning women to provide a role model for younger conservative

05:48:57.340 women who and there's nothing to apologize for here don't necessarily want to spend all their 20s

05:49:05.100 and their 30s getting married and having kids or can't they just weren't able to meet somebody and

05:49:11.100 definitely don't need to be shamed over it another

05:49:17.100 i think that's it right yeah okay uh reactions reactions from the panel agree disagree

05:49:25.100 oh i i agree to an extent i think you could but i think you can still work and be a voice and still

05:49:33.020 have be a mom a present mom for instance at my organization we're full of women who are pro-life

05:49:39.180 activists and many of our staffers who are moms bring their babies to go and table on college

05:49:44.460 campuses to educate people um and i mean my my staff likes to joke about how one day when i do have

05:49:50.460 kids i can bring my real life baby model instead of my fetal models around and um talk about babies

05:49:56.860 with my actual baby when i'm on college campuses so you can absolutely do both you can be a voice

05:50:01.980 a conservative voice because i do think that's important and i think i do think we need um

05:50:06.700 especially um conservative pro-life christian women to be voices out there it's very important

05:50:13.260 um but no i think you can still do both you can still be a mother okay and do that at the same time

05:50:17.900 uh pull up the uh pull that back up oh uh go back to the other one though go f11 my bad uh so we're

05:50:25.020 gonna read uh scroll up uh i don't get this trad wife trend why do men want to revert to the 1950s

05:50:35.340 when women okay this what is okay uh tab over to the next one men aren't didn't wait matt walsh

05:50:44.220 responded to this what tab over to the next one uh this is okay i'm gonna read this for matt walsh then

05:50:53.420 we'll maybe do the video he says the difference between the romantic interests of men and women

05:51:00.460 could perhaps best be summarized this way if you give a man a choice between an attractive sweet

05:51:04.700 kind feminine grocery store cashier who makes 13 an hour and wants nothing more than to become a

05:51:09.900 mother one day or a high-powered ambitious loud rich corporate girl boss whose greatest dream

05:51:14.940 is to be ceo one day most men will choose the former without hesitation if you give women the

05:51:19.500 same choice the mild-mannered uh scroll down unambitious guy working a cash register the

05:51:24.780 highly paid corporate go-getter you're going to have a lot more takers for the latter option

05:51:29.180 am i saying that most women are greedy gold diggers looking wait this is just from his video isn't it

05:51:33.580 maybe we should just play his video uh scroll down a little bit scroll to the very bottom okay

05:51:38.940 uh no no no don't don't uh let's go back to the video then why don't we just play the video

05:51:43.900 uh yeah and then f11 by the way uh rachel ratioed both of those women on those oh nice

05:51:52.300 uh then go the video tab and then hit play all right a man is not looking for a business partner

05:52:01.100 he's not looking for someone to provide for him he wants a wife he wants a mother for his future

05:52:07.580 children he wants a help mate he wants a woman not a man this is not a new phenomenon megan calls

05:52:14.780 this desire of young men a problem that is coming up on the right but it's not a problem and it's not

05:52:21.100 coming up kim iverson responded in agreement with megan and said that she quote doesn't get this trad

05:52:27.660 wife trend but what she's calling a trend or what megan says is just coming up is in fact the norm

05:52:33.980 it's the way human society has been organized since the dawn of civilization a young man seeking

05:52:40.620 a woman who will have his children and prioritize raising them and keeping a home is doing the same

05:52:45.580 thing that billions of other young men have done since time immemorial this traditional approach is not

05:52:52.540 some new fad invented by tiktok influencers nor is it a far-right conspiracy it is the way of human

05:52:58.780 civilization these young men they want what their grandfathers wanted and what their grandfathers

05:53:03.740 grandfathers wanted and what their grandfathers grandfathers grandfathers wanted and on and on

05:53:07.900 through the ages the trend the fad the new thing megan is feminism however you feel about career

05:53:16.780 women who find their value and purpose in the working world there's no question that they are

05:53:21.980 the ones doing something new feminism sent women out of the home and into cubicles and boardrooms

05:53:28.940 feminism convinced many women to desire professional success over and above family and children

05:53:33.580 and now feminists are angry that men were not reprogrammed along with them okay men bars don't

05:53:42.140 want what feminism is selling you may think they should want it you may want them to want it but they

05:53:48.540 don't they look out and they see that ever since the rise of feminism divorce rates have skyrocketed

05:53:54.140 birth rates have plummeted 60 million babies are dead and most people are by every metric much more

05:53:58.460 miserable and they don't want that you cannot make them want it and getting angry at them for not

05:54:03.980 wanting it is first of all fruitless second arrogant third unfair and fourth foolish he's so quick because

05:54:10.940 these young men that megan is referring to have an innate desire to be providers okay that's why they are

05:54:19.500 not especially interested in women who put their careers first they want to provide the desire to provide

05:54:25.980 is a noble desire even if many of these men will end up splitting the financial load with their wives

05:54:30.780 in some way still the desire to provide is noble and it should be encouraged not shamed it's not sad

05:54:39.020 there's nothing sad here megan these young men are experiencing a deep ancient yearning a yearning to

05:54:45.340 leave home and find a wife and become one flesh as the scripture says and then to have children and carry

05:54:50.940 on their bloodline and then to go back out into the world on a mission to provide for their family

05:54:55.500 thereby fulfilling their destiny as men this desire is primal and timeless it is not a primal timeless

05:55:01.580 desire for a colleague or a business partner it is a desire for a wife a woman he can provide for

05:55:08.140 and fight for and conquer the world for and in return in return he wants a woman who will have his children

05:55:17.500 and raise and raise and love them and prioritize them above anything and show him appreciation and respect

05:55:25.100 and affection that's what young men want that's what any man wants almost every young man wants this

05:55:34.620 uh until our feminist matriarchal society beats that of him or convinces him that he can never have it he can

05:55:42.460 never have the thing that his grandfather had and that his grandfather's grandfathers had and his

05:55:47.260 grandfather's grandfathers had and on and on and on so if you want to know why so many young men are

05:55:52.620 demoralized and depressed and broken it's because for their whole lives they've been told that what they

05:55:58.780 want down at the deepest level of their soul they should not want and they cannot have every man before

05:56:05.180 them in history could have it but not them we're too enlightened for that now the feminists took over

05:56:12.380 and they know better they know better than our ancestors do they know better than the combined

05:56:17.180 wisdom of all human history that's the message that these young men here yes but i can after this

05:56:23.900 you want to talk about sad maybe that's sad

05:56:27.340 uh reactions reactions reactions reactions i was so i agree completely with him i agree reactions

05:56:39.020 i think he's allowed to you know i agree with you he's allowed to say that um what do you think

05:56:45.100 i think sorry loran i thought the line was interesting where it's like every man is going

05:56:48.780 to have the desire to provide and that's a great thing but he'll have to end up sharing the financial

05:56:52.540 responsibility with his wife in some cases i think that's just a situation that like sadly

05:56:58.700 modern day people have to be prepared for so in that case if you're would you take the grocery

05:57:03.180 store cashier that's making 13 an hour would that be the amount of time and hours she has to work be

05:57:08.620 a relevant use of time compared to when she could be taking care of your children but she can't because

05:57:13.180 she has to do both so i would prioritize in just all of tonight's conversation an educated

05:57:19.740 woman that may have to work but still loves family and wants to spend time with her kids

05:57:23.660 there's a balance for it all yes yeah yeah i agree with that i don't agree with it i don't think it's

05:57:33.180 i don't think it's balanced at all i think look there's no good way to reconcile that if you can

05:57:40.380 spend the most amount of time with your children then you should oh there's no just no way to reconcile

05:57:45.740 it any other direction than that and the thing is is that most people can and don't instead what they

05:57:52.140 do is they prioritize themselves and then they do outsourcing to prioritize themselves they won't

05:57:59.660 take material cuts they won't live a little smaller they won't have the not a luxury automobile they

05:58:05.420 won't have the you know not netflix whatever it is within the budgetary confines in order to materially

05:58:12.540 pursue something and it's like i don't really think it's a give and take and i don't think it's

05:58:16.540 about balance i think it's basically there's one way which is always correct which is to prioritize

05:58:21.980 towards the children even if it's at the expense of the parents yeah totally but that's just matt's

05:58:27.980 example i think it deserves to be said so do you still want to be a boss babe

05:58:36.300 not when it comes at the expense of my children but i am perfectly happy having a career until i reach that

05:58:41.020 point but i guess this all stems from when we were talking about the relationship status

05:58:46.940 you're dating a guy for two years and there was so there's the mismatch when it came to religion

05:58:52.300 he was mormon you're not mormon mismatch there but i guess what seems to have led to the breakup

05:59:01.260 really wasn't so much that it was he wanted kids he wanted to get married the timeline was different

05:59:09.180 because if it was the mormon thing although look to be charitable um maybe you fell more into your

05:59:15.740 faith i don't need maybe i shouldn't have presented that argument for you before you brought it up but

05:59:21.100 uh you would have known he was mormon right away wouldn't you but you proceeded to date him for two

05:59:27.740 years despite this so at least the way you presented it it occurs to me that the primary thing was

05:59:34.940 you wanted to boss babe it up he wanted to have family kids marriage quick is that fair to say

05:59:43.980 no and i prefer to not use that scenario it's honestly just too complicated to talk about here

05:59:49.260 mostly a religious thing um okay what did you disagree with him on the religion i don't want to get into

05:59:56.700 okay sorry um but i'm just confused like so you knew when you first met him he was mormon right if

06:00:05.900 that's a deal breaker why did you date him um i think we both just thought we each other could change

06:00:12.620 um i think he thought i could change i thought i could see change in him and ultimately it didn't work

06:00:19.100 out well change what religion more religious compatibility i mean i feel like maybe you could get

06:00:25.420 somebody to like pick up after themselves but to change their religion it's a common thing christian

06:00:31.020 girls will do missionary dating where they date a guy to try and convert him it's terrible it is very

06:00:35.420 true like if he's an atheist as some maybe or even just like different like it's totally a thing like

06:00:41.340 i i as someone christian so christian girls are like dating muslims that's not gonna work like thinking

06:00:47.020 that they're not like muslims just people that aren't as strong in their faith and we women think that

06:00:52.620 we can make them yeah but mormonism is like a different faith isn't it you guys do recognize

06:00:56.540 that that's terrible yes oh yes absolutely say you you recognize that that's terrible oh yeah oh yeah

06:01:02.300 that's why yeah that's why i brought it up um okay well uh okay all right um i just don't know about

06:01:14.220 the whole boss babe thing okay all right uh well i mean i don't know any other boss babes at the table

06:01:22.940 i think i'm a boss babe a little bit but not a little bit i plan on working so when i have kids

06:01:28.620 teeny bit okay boss babe all right that's cool um was there another video there was no i don't think

06:01:38.380 well i mean we could actually react to andrew do you have andrew do you know if you have like a short

06:01:43.020 one or two minute clip with your thing with tommy lauren um i i don't i don't have one handy no i

06:01:50.620 would have sent one over if you'd let me know um well what essentially was maybe instead of watching

06:01:55.980 the video maybe we could do that next time what was your disagreement with tommy

06:02:01.260 i asked tommy what uh social what was the actual social duties that women had in society which was on

06:02:08.940 par with men's social duties and she said essentially nothing tommy lauren essentially her position was

06:02:16.380 men want to do this and the reward that they get is they get to see me happy isn't that great

06:02:22.620 oh yeah so we kind of talked about that earlier i think yeah we okay all right well then it did spin

06:02:27.820 it did span into to other things um right but but yeah i mean that was the the root of the argument

06:02:34.540 sure um and the root the root of most of these arguments when it comes to the social dynamics

06:02:40.140 between men and women is that for a long time men have been getting the shit kicked out of them

06:02:44.780 in society as being the expendable class of society and and this has been under the guise of acting as

06:02:51.420 though there was some authoritative patriarchy who instead was oppressing women the opposite has always

06:02:57.660 been true that under men's authority women thrive and so the that that's been the idea socially for

06:03:04.620 a long time sure and we've been able now to begin to take this inverted idea and reverse it to where

06:03:10.940 it's actually supposed to be which is like no it turns out men being in charge of fucking everything

06:03:16.620 is a really really good idea it's just a really good idea for society and when you look at all the

06:03:23.020 numbers all the stats all the data all of the various uh effects and outcomes turns out that

06:03:30.220 men are really good at this shit and women really aren't and that's it and there's not really good

06:03:36.300 arguments against that and women have social privilege in society which is needed because

06:03:40.700 they have to reproduce the next generation but they're fucking not and so why aren't they right and

06:03:46.700 do they have an obligation to and the answer for most women is that they don't that's a problem

06:03:53.020 it's a problem it's a problem do you guys think that women are obligated to reproduce sorry

06:04:02.140 most women yes it's not obligated to reproduce but an obligation to move society towards reproduction

06:04:08.060 i think they're obviously i'm not saying this is a problem people get in their brains right they think

06:04:12.540 when you say women have a social obligation to reproduce well some women can't reproduce it's like well

06:04:17.660 yeah we know some women can't reproduce some men can't join the you know the military some men can't

06:04:22.220 protect their own families because of disability we know that right the case is though where do we

06:04:27.020 want to move as a society we want to move towards a reproductive society so we want the society to

06:04:33.180 glorify the mother and the family and everything else should just be noise boss babes should not be

06:04:39.900 glorified working class women there's no reason to glorify that what is to glorify there yeah i don't

06:04:46.700 want the best and brightest women slaving away in a fucking cubicle i want them out home raising the

06:04:51.900 next generation of the best and brightest kids yeah it's not outsourcing it to fucking consuela that's

06:04:56.460 stupid question would you take care of your daughter until she found a husband would you so she didn't have

06:05:02.860 to work but she's looking for a husband full-time yeah i think that not only is that the uh was was the

06:05:10.780 standard in society but look at kids now you know zoomers and even millennials were living at home

06:05:17.180 longer and longer and longer and longer and longer until you know 23 24 25 women this is often the case

06:05:24.300 and by the way when men men move out they'll go get like a studio apartment right and then litter it with

06:05:30.460 beer cans and and wrappers they don't give a shit right women don't do that they have female roommates

06:05:36.140 they go out and move out with female roommates they mostly aren't even living alone that young

06:05:40.620 right so it's always seems to be that they're under the domain of protection of men no matter what

06:05:45.740 and so yeah if uh if women though i don't think it's a good idea to prioritize them going to school

06:05:51.900 for an elongated period of time that they should prioritize uh dating the right people getting into

06:05:57.580 the correct social groups so that they can find and categorize husband and family first and the fact

06:06:03.580 that that's even controversial to me is crazy it's like it's it's so obvious no all right nope sorry

06:06:10.700 god move it on uh to frank castle thank you man castle five don't let these come through donated 30

06:06:17.020 andrew can't put down the duncan's made me cry out laughing good work with those idiots he's referencing

06:06:23.660 andrew was on uh piers morgan and had a uh quite a quite a spirited back and forth with some uk feminist lady

06:06:31.580 um thank you for that we got rachel rachel wilson donated 30 dollars chair one and chair five are

06:06:38.380 pretty good arguments against women voting oh we'd be better off letting spoons vote they have a higher

06:06:44.700 iq is that actually rachel i don't know um thank you maybe rachel wilson i'm not sure uh we got randy

06:06:51.820 here could be modern psychology is fake another method to brainwash grab money through bills and

06:07:01.180 useless degrees and reduce reproduction less common folk is good for elites especially with more

06:07:07.660 automation all right thank you randy appreciate the message we have sons of liberty here i might

06:07:15.340 disagree with this 99 cents these podcasts teach me women are inherently non-virtuous

06:07:22.620 women's natural instincts are to be non-monogamous desire casual sex and toxic behaviors in partners

06:07:29.420 and relish deleting their offspring i mean to be fair to this panel uh we got like two women who are

06:07:34.860 virgins here two women two who are married i'm married somebody engaged or something someone was i was

06:07:41.900 engaged last time i was on now i'm married yeah gotcha okay we got two married women and they're both

06:07:47.260 you got married they just assume all the women on this podcast married at 19 married at 20 21 21

06:07:53.100 we're pretty chill so i mean yeah well congratulations to you all i mean you have

06:07:57.500 many many children to assist with the reproduction crisis and maybe is anybody pregnant here do we need

06:08:03.180 to do a pregnancy test that'd be scary a little bit uh a little bit extra but um sweet i do have to

06:08:09.740 get it it was very nice to meet all of you um yeah thank you andrew all i enjoyed the spirited back

06:08:15.900 and forth with all of you have a great night thank you for tuning in andrew appreciate it hope you have

06:08:20.380 a good night have a good night andrew uh so mary you can hit in the sources hit discord here oh that

06:08:26.140 looks uh yeah yeah we're getting uh so the discord hit the eyeball and then go to center zoom and hit

06:08:34.380 the eyeball there and i'll hide it all right guys uh so if you want to get a roast in 29 tts for the

06:08:43.900 roasts i'm gonna let this one come through uh oh okay what the heck all frank castle 512 donated 30

06:08:51.340 dollars chair one is definitely on drugs andrew i was surprised you took it pretty easy on the

06:08:57.740 trans dude even after he called you stupid you definitely had a lot of ammo and were justified to

06:09:04.060 do so uh he just he just tuned out but he probably still heard it because he's probably still tuned uh

06:09:10.540 hearing some of the stream or something coming through what it was on pierce morgan oh yeah yeah

06:09:16.060 he was arguing with someone that was trans yeah yeah there were some comments guys if you want

06:09:27.020 30 tts if you want to get a roast in uh we have some notes we need to get through and a couple

06:09:31.180 things luckily there's not too much here from the questionnaire uh but i do let's see why don't we

06:09:35.900 just do uh why don't we just do a bit of notes before we do the questionnaire uh natalie you you

06:09:42.380 describe yourself as a high value woman who's only going to date a high value man men have only

06:09:47.100 treated me with the utmost respect and decency uh what is a high value woman um i think that's somebody

06:09:54.700 that holds their um but i mean i i don't know that's a good question i think it's somebody that holds their

06:10:03.580 beliefs um and upholds them so what they believe in um for me that's my faith and so i'm going to try to

06:10:10.620 honor god in all that i do and say and act and i try to do that to best my ability and um so i hope

06:10:19.020 to find that in a guy and i would say that that's the same for a high value man i would want him to

06:10:22.940 honor god and all of he says and all that he does as well okay you said that being overly nice doesn't

06:10:28.860 make you lovable it makes you disposable yeah do you mean like as a woman being overly nice i think that

06:10:34.700 that i i kind of mean that in a sense of if a guy's like hey um love taking on a date will you drive to

06:10:43.660 me and being like yep i'll hop in the car right there and i'll drive to you right away and it's

06:10:48.540 like a lack of allowing the guy to pursue you you're being almost like overly nice wait if you drive to

06:10:54.620 his place no no no i'm saying like let's say that let's say like your guys like wanted to take you out on a

06:11:00.380 first date sure um i would i would want for him to come and pick me up and do like the traditional

06:11:07.660 date right and show the effort there but if he's you know just sitting at his house and and is texting

06:11:13.740 me late at night and wanting me to come over and i'm overly nice and i just want to come over and see

06:11:18.460 him and i think that that makes you not a high value woman for a first date or yeah like if he's like

06:11:25.820 hey come over to my place let's hang out i mean you're you you said you've hold on you said you

06:11:32.380 were a virgin right i mean you're not going over to that's what i'm saying now i'm saying that that's

06:11:37.260 just like a small like a small scenario but what about if he wants to meet you like give me an example

06:11:42.220 he wants to meet you at 7 p.m at a restaurant to take you out to a nice dinner i'll be there

06:11:47.820 no but he says meet me there that's okay oh that's okay yeah okay so it's okay i see that's totally

06:11:53.820 okay i would totally make the effort okay um you said unjabbed or nothing okay i don't know if we

06:12:00.620 can really get into that on youtube too much but uh okay cool um so if they got is this just the

06:12:09.100 covid or is it all vaxes no that was just covid just covid okay after everything that's come out

06:12:14.220 hook it up with the measles or shit um uh you said you love gender roles men should lead but they have

06:12:20.620 to be worthy leaders you said you're saving intimacy for marriage it doesn't make you prude

06:12:25.100 it means you uh here we'll do why don't we do splits on these oops my bad hold on uh you said

06:12:33.260 that doesn't make you prude it means you value your body your future spouse too much to give

06:12:37.340 away pieces of yourself to people who aren't committed to you you said feminine energy is

06:12:41.820 powerful you believe women were designed with strength that complements men not compete with them

06:12:45.740 uh you said you'll never date for fun or out of boredom if i can't see a future with someone

06:12:51.660 uh or well why would you waste their time or mine intentional dating isn't boring it's just

06:12:59.100 focused on the bigger picture in the hearts of men i'm engaging with you said feminism lied to you they

06:13:03.980 told us we could have it all but at what cost working 70 hour weeks being strong and independent

06:13:08.780 and putting off family until it's too late doesn't sound empowering it sounds miserable

06:13:13.420 modesty is hotter than you think anyone can show skin but covering up as a real flex

06:13:18.940 it says i know my worth and i don't or it says well yeah it's these are this is what you're saying

06:13:23.020 not me uh it says i know my worth i don't need attention to prove it there's something wildly

06:13:27.020 attractive about leaving a little mystery if he's not leading you to god he's leading you nowhere

06:13:32.380 a man who doesn't prioritize his faith can't leave a family so what do you think about that she says

06:13:37.340 uh modesty is hotter than dressing like a strumpet she didn't say that but that's my artistic adapt

06:13:46.460 adaptation uh anyone can show us any thoughts i would just say uh love that for her yeah love that for

06:13:55.180 her and that's it yeah love that for love that you think that way cool question i have a question for

06:14:03.340 you if a guy if a guy who you're dating was like i don't like your nose piercings i would take him

06:14:11.820 out if i was truly wanting to yeah yeah all right no argument first date though how about that no

06:14:17.420 argument i'd be like he hasn't shown me enough that we're gonna talk okay so no on the okay yeah

06:14:23.740 all right we got notes from madeline recently single uh wait six months i guess i guess a rebound

06:14:30.300 was there a rebound no rebounds okay there's no guys in the picture right now no no like utah

06:14:36.700 frappos or no they play they play lacrosse or football i don't know they play lacrosse in utah um

06:14:42.860 you said a man without purpose structure and a track record of success isn't ready for a good woman

06:14:48.060 talking means nothing results do i did say that you you should put that on your uh real estate pitch um

06:14:56.300 a man's role is to protect and lead a woman's role is to enrich and facilitate

06:15:02.540 enrich yep and facilitate uh careers matter but love and service to family matter more

06:15:09.500 okay you tracked what you are so level up before expecting it in someone else

06:15:14.700 you said soft femininity thrives with a disciplined selfless man what is soft femininity i just think it's

06:15:21.740 the ability to let go i think it's what a lot of women need in this generation is just an actually

06:15:27.500 conservative disciplined man who can show like i can take the reins i can handle all this responsibility

06:15:33.660 and i am strong enough mature enough and disciplined enough to take that on and i just don't feel like

06:15:37.820 women see that all the time and we would love to see more you need a man to be your brain for you i get

06:15:44.220 it totally yeah that's real wait say that again it's real no that's real like when you walk into

06:15:50.700 the airport i don't even want to think about where i'm going like i would love for him to yeah take

06:15:55.340 the lead on that going here yeah okay uh sweet uh let's see you said the government lies the bible

06:16:01.660 holds the truth okay all right dating sucks because women don't respect themselves men take the easy

06:16:09.020 option but want the hardest what do you mean by that i think it's exactly what you said about um

06:16:16.460 the attractiveness level of like you know some guy is willing to sleep with a girl under his leak but

06:16:21.660 wants the hottest girl at the bar it's like men will always take the easy option so the way to fix

06:16:26.540 dating culture as a whole is for just women to uphold higher standards and just be a little bit harder

06:16:32.380 i think i think if you if you up if you just up even a few um variables it increases the average

06:16:39.660 by a lot and so it's like even if some of the general population is the reason why dating is as

06:16:43.980 bad as it is is because of modern culture and how people act now if everything andrew talked about

06:16:49.180 wanted to happen that's what would need to happen first yeah you said uh fixing this generation starts

06:16:55.180 with women having standards men will rise to meet them women having standards

06:17:02.940 i feel like i don't know the standards are kind of pretty high from women they're pretty up there

06:17:08.140 if you want a traditional woman that woman needs to uphold traditional standards you can't just want

06:17:12.220 that yeah sure but are they are women trad um no oh okay i mean even you seem to have a bit of

06:17:21.580 pushback on this career thing yeah i do is that trad no but i'm i'm not fully trad oh okay all right

06:17:29.260 i wouldn't say that yeah i mean i think that's fair i think people aren't it's not like black or white

06:17:34.460 on or off if a guy knew he could text a girl on snapchat at 10 p.m and say what are you doing

06:17:40.460 and she didn't respond or give that the time of day ever people wouldn't do it but because it happens

06:17:45.980 and because girls are down for that then that brings the casualty into these relationships that

06:17:51.020 ultimately makes dating suck it's a true it's yeah it's true i agree i agree 100 i mean i think

06:17:58.300 the probably maybe the ultimate standard that some or most of the women here white would maybe want to

06:18:03.420 see is that if all women's uh i don't know if it would be a boundary or whatever but if all women's

06:18:11.980 position was no sex till marriage probably like increase the marriage rate a little bit men would be

06:18:19.100 dating more intense oh look at this it's the three-way good job is this the first time the three

06:18:25.900 cam hey guys we got a new camera i i or not a new camera a new scene kind of cool uh can you guys hear

06:18:33.260 us okay did anything in the audio change when we did guys it's every angle it's beautiful thank you

06:18:38.700 good job you're a legend um yeah i think uh i don't know if if it was just okay if men want

06:18:45.420 sex they have to get married that would change a lot you don't think the divorce rate would be high

06:18:51.740 though too women that save themselves for marriage actually their divorce rates are much lower and i can

06:18:57.420 show you the statistics if you would like it is true dang do you have statistics for like literally

06:19:01.900 everything she's got a blinder autism what can i say nice uh okay nice guys you said nice guys

06:19:09.740 don't finish last weak men do no girl actually doesn't want a nice guy every girl in this on

06:19:16.060 this table i can guarantee wants a nice guy do they yes yes we want a man that's powerful but nice we

06:19:22.060 want a man that could be kind i wouldn't say yes yeah kind but at the end of the day it all means

06:19:27.660 the same i don't want some random guy that's going to pull over and let a bunch of homeless

06:19:30.380 people into my car because he's so nice you don't want a weak man yeah but that's different than just

06:19:34.540 being kind or nice and i should have used a different word but the meaning is still there

06:19:38.060 yeah i think a lot of women though it's like if you get a girl flowers on the first date i'm not

06:19:43.900 saying all women are going to be uh find that give them the ick but there's definitely women out

06:19:49.500 there who like he's doing too much i would go so selfish some girls are like and i'm like are you

06:19:56.140 making fun of a man for trying yeah like why are you making fun of a man for trying yeah

06:20:00.140 like a positive i think it's yeah like that's so sweet like you had intention you went you bought

06:20:04.700 them out before you seen me i think it's because dating has become like this casual thing with like

06:20:09.020 no purpose and or intention minded people just like oh go on a chill date like oh my gosh you got my

06:20:13.020 flowers it's not that serious dates are the best for the top three dates like just do free dates or

06:20:17.260 under ten dollars for like ice cream or something no like but i think getting flowers is like a great

06:20:21.980 thing and i think it all stems from the fact that dating is is done without a purpose now and if

06:20:26.620 you're not dating until dating if you're not dating for marriage you're dating for heartbreak and that's

06:20:31.420 the problem is people are just casually dating just for funsies and then they get shocked when

06:20:36.700 someone actually cares about them and brings flowers to the first date like oh my gosh a guy that actually

06:20:42.540 cares about me and is serious about being with me it's a thoughtful thing it's terrible yeah it's

06:20:46.860 amazing i would go diving on a first date and that would stoke me honestly i'm so easy to please

06:20:51.340 noise um okay we have let's see here uh okay if you feel lost you're distracted and lack purpose

06:20:59.900 from god for your life that's what you said feminism is lying to you about what will actually bring joy

06:21:05.340 you're a boss babe i know that my family is going to bring me more contentment than all that will

06:21:10.460 it doesn't mean nothing else can fair enough uh please you said you won't date someone with serious

06:21:15.820 you won't date someone with serious mental health issues if i work for a strong mind i deserve

06:21:21.100 the same i agree with you fully on this i've actually caught flack because i think i said

06:21:27.020 i've caught flack for two things uh i caught flack for i said i wouldn't date somebody who's bipolar

06:21:33.500 this was a long time ago got a bunch of flack for it and then i also wouldn't date an ex uh drug addict

06:21:40.460 like somebody used to be too many highs and lows well they could be clean for a couple years but i just

06:21:45.740 it would be a preference a very strong preference not saying it's like i i wouldn't say it's a if the

06:21:52.060 person's fantastic right it's not a hundred percent a deal breaker but like i'm leaning very strongly

06:21:58.620 like this is a sub-optimal uh situation to be dating somebody who used to be addicted to heroin oh yeah i

06:22:05.660 think people can be redeemed and they can stay clean and sober for their entire lives but like if it's a

06:22:11.180 choice between somebody who used to be addicted to heroin and somebody who never did heroin i think

06:22:16.540 like all things being equal i'm picking the sober the person why not the bipolar that doesn't do it

06:22:23.020 why not bipolar yeah it's all to keep up with uh i'm just very minimally bipolar and stuff and i feel

06:22:29.660 like sure like i'm pretty chill and i mean look i think you have to look at the entire package um

06:22:36.460 um you have to look at the totality of uh who somebody is but generally speaking i think both

06:22:43.100 men and women we're trying to get the best that we can get we're trying to get the most optimum

06:22:47.660 partner we can get and if we're just being realistic there are certain things that tend to

06:22:52.140 like person could be great and attractive and all these things but then there could be like xyz

06:22:57.740 bullet points where it's like ooh okay not ideal not ideal not ideal i think uh mental illness

06:23:04.460 illness and specific mental illnesses tend to be like not ideal would you not date someone with

06:23:10.620 schizophrenia probably not i mean i know there's different severities to it but that's a pretty

06:23:16.700 severe yeah that's intense oh no i was just wondering because of family whatever i want to be

06:23:22.220 trying to hook me up with a schizophrenic or something um no no i'm not no i don't know i just have a lot of

06:23:27.740 beliefs on schizophrenia like if we treated it the same as transgenderism then um the world would be a

06:23:33.660 terrible place because we would affirm their beliefs like oh sure that is following you there

06:23:38.060 is a person following you you're right babe that's a good point that's a good point um no that

06:23:42.460 is true we didn't and uh yeah but i got i got blown up some girl who used to be a drug addict

06:23:49.660 made a tick tock about me oh what she was like oh my god he wouldn't drait or drait the

06:23:55.660 fuck is that uh no more champagne yeah seriously i'm lightweight um he wouldn't date somebody who

06:24:04.620 used to do drugs i'm like is that i don't feel like that that's crazy like a crazy standard i don't think

06:24:10.620 so i think that like it also too it's like the worry in a sense if it's especially if it's like

06:24:15.420 something like heroin like chances are if they started using again they might like you might come

06:24:19.500 home and they could be passed away because like it you know when they do it when a long time ago

06:24:25.980 they have a tolerance and then all of a sudden everything could be all peachy and then one

06:24:30.060 thing and you're like oh my gosh what happened and it's so little but it made a big thing because

06:24:34.540 it's been so many years so i i agree and also the thing is is that you know look i used to have an

06:24:42.700 addiction what video games uh world of warcraft oh okay okay and the thing is right when it comes

06:24:52.460 to addiction if you're going through like a stressful period in your life you could be i i was clean from

06:24:59.180 world of warcraft for a decade i was clean and then i had a stressful period and i i went back i relapsed

06:25:08.380 i had a world of warcraft relapse uh and that was crazy son it was crazy look

06:25:17.740 anyways um did it feel good when you played again oh my god it felt so good it was an escape it was

06:25:24.380 an escape from my problems so it was like i was shooting up the world of warcraft it was so good

06:25:30.300 random question you think men should avoid yeah but like but but so just because somebody's been

06:25:38.380 clean doesn't mean they're going to stay clean true yeah what was your what was your um so you

06:25:42.300 think men should stay away from corn and stuff because it's addictive sure okay uh i don't i

06:25:47.900 actually i i saw some study that it's that's kind of bogus but uh regardless of whether it's addictive

06:25:54.220 or not i don't think men watching porn is good now i think there's like consumption where it's like

06:26:00.300 okay he watches it like once a month yeah i think that's less worrying than a guy who's like a coomer

06:26:05.580 who's watching it like every single day for hours yeah but ultimately i think uh no porn or as minimal

06:26:11.820 as possible is probably ideal i have that and like in a relationship that's definitely yeah no not

06:26:17.420 watching porn you should save save that for your girlfriend or wife or whatever so is that was

06:26:23.100 there a follow-up on that no i was just wondering because you were talking about addiction and stuff

06:26:26.460 and i know that's a big one men this day and age tend to have okay yeah uh i mean again i would

06:26:33.260 dispute that it's an actual addiction but i think uh let me ask the women here would you guys do the

06:26:39.180 following trade so i know a lot of women have an issue with men who watch uh adult content would you

06:26:48.220 guys give up social media and instagram if men gave up porn yes yes yes for like like in a relationship

06:26:57.820 or just if you're not in a relationship you just give it away uh let's just say in a relationship

06:27:03.100 in a relationship i would say yes however um they need to get out these certain philosophies that i have

06:27:09.340 that i'm like scheduled to get out and as long as they can get them out then cool but i just can't have

06:27:13.100 these philosophies buried there's just certain things that i need to say and i need someone

06:27:22.300 either to say it for me or i need to say it i love that for you go off um yeah yeah no i mean i think

06:27:29.100 the the impact of social media on on women is commensurate to the impact of porn on them in fact

06:27:37.420 i think it's worth i think social media for women is worse absolutely yeah it can be i do social

06:27:43.660 media for a job and i still agree with you well i think i think social media has been bad for

06:27:49.100 everybody yeah but i think there's a differential impact on women females compare i think to like a

06:27:56.620 lot and actually yeah reading a book i recommend everyone should read it um the anxious generation

06:28:03.900 and it talked about how social media is far more detrimental to women's mental health than it is

06:28:09.980 to men's for many reasons yeah get off social media if you're a woman i did it like a year ago and so

06:28:16.860 much happier yeah and i think there's i mean it's there's differences but the impact on a relationship

06:28:23.100 is definitely different just because yeah i think some women get male validation through the social

06:28:29.820 media which isn't which uh isn't really so much factor for most men most men aren't going to social

06:28:37.500 media to get validation yeah from women and most men can't get it but yeah uh let's see here we have

06:28:43.420 i'm trying to see if there's anything else uh you said but wait hold on you said a bunch of dope

06:28:49.980 legendary based shit madeline is it you prefer maddie or madeline what about m-dog

06:28:56.460 m-dog m-dog all right m-dog you said a trad wife isn't the only path to fulfilling family focused

06:29:03.660 life so when you say trad wife are you saying career boss babe or what do you mean when i'm

06:29:10.380 saying like being a trap wife is the only way you're saying a trad wife isn't the only path to a

06:29:15.740 fulfilling family focused life so you're saying like a balance between career and family is that

06:29:22.220 it's possible for sure i i guess it's possible that's what i plan on doing i don't plan on

06:29:27.340 quitting my full-time job working for what if your husband wait what's his name through this

06:29:31.500 all right i don't know if it's private but his name's ethan ethan does he do social media or is

06:29:35.260 he more he hate he hates that i'm a public figure he's got like three followers on instagram right or

06:29:40.460 200 or something he did have more and then he was like i hate this because he was getting because

06:29:44.620 i posted him too much and people were going after him like i'm crazy is ethan watching this you

06:29:49.340 might be he's probably asleep we're from north yeah i'm dying right now it's late it's late for

06:29:54.860 you yeah um yo ethan if you're watching this yeah look you got your wife here right

06:30:03.900 i don't know what's he what's he do for work he's a behavior technician so he works with disabled

06:30:08.780 children are you the breadwinner no we make actually about the same about the same okay yeah but i mean

06:30:14.780 once your social media career blows up i mean you're gonna be making like you're gonna

06:30:20.940 no i i definitely it's not that's not why i'm doing this though no i i plan on having he would

06:30:26.860 have kids like he wants to have kids he would have kids today if if we want to but now he's like no i

06:30:31.900 understand um because i travel so much and i have to have security with me because it's dangerous what

06:30:36.620 i'm doing um and yeah tomorrow i'm going to uh university of southern california and they are

06:30:42.940 planning on protesting me so no it's hard so it's difficult are you doing the speech or is it

06:30:47.420 somebody else it's me i do a speaking tour so i'm speaking at sacramento stay on wednesday too

06:30:51.420 seems like anything all right guys wait hold on we got to help her out if there's any usc you said

06:30:56.940 yeah all right guys these so there's gonna be protesters we need counter protesters and you can

06:31:03.260 just come debate me like i mean we're going to be catching some actually i'm not going to tell

06:31:06.780 them that but um moving to abigail here abby g married at 19 you said to answer the last question

06:31:16.140 you have experience with two long-term relationships one where you were masculine and egotistical and your

06:31:21.180 boyfriend was emotional and oh i think we these are old notes right we already covered it in your

06:31:25.500 previous show then um uh you said i think i don't know if you provide anything new well i don't even

06:31:33.260 have instagram i'm going to be honest with you brian so if anyone's ever if anyone's ever talked to me

06:31:39.340 on instagram or anything else you're actually talking to my husband just so you know because

06:31:44.380 he manages it he has actually yeah i don't have my instagram but he does wait that's kind of based

06:31:50.780 so he'll like send me screenshots and be like what should i say to this or he'll just respond

06:31:55.420 but i don't have it wait does he post stuff on behalf of you um his posts on my story and that's

06:32:02.220 it wait what your husband's like your social media manager yeah it's so funny he he even does like

06:32:10.140 when she does a post he'll put put the like the the nail the sparkling nail emoji or whatever

06:32:17.340 what's that emoji the nail polish yeah he he does that too it's so funny he's funny uh okay

06:32:24.300 rider you sit in your instagram it says you're divinely protected what does that mean

06:32:27.980 um oh it's just meaning like i'm protected like that's it by the divine no just divinely like nice

06:32:35.500 yeah like through through god through christ whatever you want to believe in yeah but with

06:32:41.500 them with anything you weren't really divinely protected though on which talk talk that that

06:32:46.220 tick-tock with the like which one what's three and then he like hooked up with the dude oh yeah yeah

06:32:52.060 like oh yeah yeah where was the divine protection i mean obviously there was none right there but um

06:33:00.540 that was also me just being a the divine protection what's that what is that word i was just being

06:33:05.100 oblivious and like i just should have known yeah because then i definitely would not have spent that

06:33:11.180 much time i love it okay you said you got married at 19 for fafsa yeah is that student loans

06:33:16.380 oh yeah wait so that's why that makes sense because i remember when i got married i was like

06:33:21.900 oh yes yeah yeah yeah because the only the biggest reason because uh i mean number one we were together

06:33:26.620 for a while anyways but uh he was the one that was kind of like we should get married we should get

06:33:31.900 married especially because uh he didn't have parents like they both died when he was a young like a

06:33:36.620 young age so he was like basically kind of like i want to do this for you because this is the only way

06:33:41.740 i know you could definitely go through school with me and i was like okay i was like i love you so

06:33:47.180 much we're gonna get married anyway might as well do it now and yeah did he have like some sort of

06:33:52.700 father figure growing up oh no no um his mom died from like this crazy cancer when he was like six and

06:33:59.180 then his dad died right after from like alcoholism and stuff oh wow so yeah yeah he was a foster kid so

06:34:05.660 when we met in high school and everything i was like i was already i was already in the trenches

06:34:10.460 with you you know i got the man so put it back um okay uh you said marriage isn't the main end goal

06:34:19.100 you said women are more sexually advanced and addicted what do you mean by this okay wait i did

06:34:25.260 i didn't think i said really quick while we still have mary here mary can you pull up the meme that

06:34:29.580 meme the men's romance versus women's romance is this what you're talking about i'm gonna pull this up

06:34:36.380 let's see uh women's romance i'm going to kill you harder daddy yeah yeah like the kink way i'm going

06:34:43.020 to love and take care of you all is that yeah i just okay so like um actually in college like when i

06:34:50.380 took a seminar and everything for it it was just like basically talking about like how like when you

06:34:55.180 go through trauma um some people express it sexually and obviously women go through a little bit different

06:35:02.140 trauma yeah but like they go through more trauma you know like obviously with like

06:35:07.660 being sexualized and stuff like that so much historical too yeah like like the whole thing

06:35:13.340 about the about the statues with the women and that one of their boobs are always like a different color

06:35:19.580 because it's just those weird men that want to take a picture and think it's funny but it's like it's

06:35:23.740 it's a statue yeah but yeah yeah but that's what i meant but going back onto like how lydia said

06:35:30.940 earlier yeah a lot of people are not wait there's different colored boobs

06:35:36.460 i know what she's talking about so much i know what she's talking about so like there's different

06:35:40.060 sizes i've seen different sizes because like the they're they're touching them and it's like rubbing

06:35:46.620 off the color on statues of women yeah how are we talking about statues wait what i don't know why

06:35:53.340 she brought it up about women being like because we were talking about being sexualized for so long

06:35:58.460 even like any type of women is going to be sexualized but what about explain the statue

06:36:02.620 thing because because it's not even a real man it's not even a real woman wait but there's literally

06:36:07.260 i know exactly what you're talking about where the statue's like uh worn down yeah whatever and

06:36:11.740 the color is different yeah it's the same thing with a bulge on statues women do that it's literally

06:36:16.940 the same yeah i could find yeah i've seen photos i mean but let's be like i would i i would touch the

06:36:23.660 you would grab some boobs too she grabbed yeah like i feel like that's kind of like i feel like

06:36:28.860 you just go by and you're like i don't know i'm like uh i don't know honest confession i think it's

06:36:35.020 because like i like like art so like okay like i wouldn't go and touch all of his stuff right now

06:36:40.300 because i don't know what he paid for that i don't know how much he enjoys those it's very

06:36:43.420 expensive yeah so i just feel like every statue you should respect just in general it's a landmark

06:36:48.780 i i get that i i think i think my point of view is just like it's it's just in public i don't know

06:36:55.740 just anyways okay i have statues i love statues they're great yeah favorite thing to see in public

06:37:00.780 statues anyways uh oh uh i had lydia's notes here but we'll come to those when she's back from the

06:37:06.380 bathroom oh she's scampering she's scampering back to the table here oh all good all good uh we do

06:37:13.820 oh if you need we have uh next time you get up we have some eye drops i think okay uh you said you

06:37:19.100 met your fiancee on instagram in high school you had no idea you guys live uh how who slid into

06:37:23.820 whose dms oh i don't we actually met a group chat so so this is gonna be a nerdy pro life group chat so

06:37:32.140 don't judge me guys i was a nerd in high school and you know the tv show survivor yes we weren't on

06:37:37.820 it but um we would play the online version in high school and i met him because he was the only other

06:37:46.540 christian conservative type guy because it was a bunch of non and so we found out that we only lived

06:37:54.060 like an hour apart near charlotte and i was in high school at the time so my parents were like this

06:37:58.460 dude's definitely kidnapper his parents also like kidnapper and so we wanted to meet up and so we

06:38:05.180 decided to meet up in a mall and my my parents made me go with this other guy to like defend me

06:38:10.060 from him and his parents were like waiting in the parking lot and thankfully we weren't kidnappers

06:38:15.260 and we ended up going to high school prom together and we've been together ever since yeah okay nice

06:38:21.900 good times good times uh mary i think last thing here can you do the bring it to twitch pull up the

06:38:27.500 twitch and then we'll go to window and then just leave it there and f11 uh guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever

06:38:33.740 drop us a follow on the prime sub if you have one twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow on the

06:38:38.620 prime sub we have uh let's see here it's been two guys i think it's bugged it's been like two hours

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06:39:03.660 here you know i'm gonna let some roast come through i'm gonna finish up with the notes then we're gonna

06:39:06.940 hopefully get this wrapped here pretty soon uh so i have lulu oh wait lulu

06:39:13.340 uh-oh lulu donated thirty dollars they're gonna roast you guys one horse face what possessed you to

06:39:18.540 wear the most cringe pants to ever exist also brian please stop inviting chair eight on the show she's

06:39:25.020 extremely lame and boring what abigail's a legend she's not lame and boring do you want to talk

06:39:32.380 some back to lulu um i'm extremely lame and boring i don't know i can see how someone would think that

06:39:40.300 i try to be very careful with what i say i'm on the internet a lot of people are watching me

06:39:44.860 so i can see how that come across lame and boring um because you have any special talents or anything

06:39:50.380 i can you do a backflip that's pretty cool on the table now you can do a backflip and land it

06:39:56.860 where did you learn of course that's not boring okay no wow okay she's not so lame and boring now

06:40:03.180 is she okay um do you want to respond to about the pants can you do you want to man that's fucked up

06:40:07.740 like dude it's a zebra zebras are being endangered where did you buy those because i kind of actually

06:40:12.300 where can i get did you know what zebras are actually bipolar wait what yeah zebras are

06:40:19.180 bipolar wait what yeah i didn't know that zebras are bipolar yeah that's why people don't really

06:40:27.100 work with as much as they do with horses yeah wow well zebras are just well and they are in slack

06:40:35.740 wait what's funny i actually don't get it yeah what did she say the zebras are bipolar yeah they're

06:40:41.420 really hilarious what maybe they change their mood so quick see like what the fuck it was

06:40:48.300 i didn't know that you were like yeah can i where can i buy like do they make those in men's

06:40:55.340 to be honest you know what i've actually went to uh i went to some like warehouse like uh i went to

06:41:01.740 some like warehouse like sample sale and uh they had a lot of like boot cut like men's like cheetah

06:41:07.420 pants and everything oh okay i was like you know what like if a man is gonna rock it go ahead i'm not

06:41:12.060 here to tell you what you can wear if somebody sends in a i don't know if it's worth a champagne pop

06:41:19.580 i will wear some zebra zebra zebra yeah zebra sweatpants for a whole stream if somebody does

06:41:30.140 fuck it you don't even be able to see them yeah i mean well i don't know i'll he gets up pretty

06:41:36.140 often they'll see you'll be able to see him i'm wearing camouflage pants right now so

06:41:42.060 uh okay we have some more chats coming through we have randy randy donated thirty dollars thank you

06:41:47.340 man referencing the man milk segment earlier i have no idea you could milk a cat oh yeah you can

06:41:53.420 milk anything with nipples i have nipples oh my gosh could you milk me meet the parents great movie

06:42:00.860 it's a meet the parents reference thank you randy appreciate it uh let's see here daniel mccoy

06:42:06.780 donated thirty dollars question for the app supporters are you vegan if so is it okay to terminate a

06:42:14.620 cow's pregnancy so i can eat the bovine fetus if no why the meat or the death of an animal quick

06:42:21.420 answer on this clump of cells i'm actually in a vegan phase right now but they only last like for

06:42:27.580 so long and then they last for like two three weeks and then i go back to eating meat and then i cut out

06:42:32.540 meat again and then go i go back and forth why i don't know my body it i just do what it wants to do

06:42:38.060 like its desires and i just yeah right now i'm not craving meat but i probably will in like three

06:42:44.460 weeks so it doesn't have to do with saving the animal no it just my body if it wants it i'll go

06:42:48.940 for it and if it doesn't then i won't okay all right animals aren't equivalent to people

06:42:54.860 r8 panda donated thirty dollars chair eight not sure what you are looking at to your lower right but

06:43:00.620 chill difference between cute and pretty is chair eight and two i challenge chair seven to find some

06:43:06.860 to debate andrew or joseph smith oh wait difference between cute and pretty is she was talking about

06:43:14.620 what's the difference between two yeah because i was saying earlier that men say that they say lauren

06:43:20.300 you're not a beautiful woman but you're a cute woman and i didn't know what that meant and now here's

06:43:25.500 the pickle you guys got to determine which one of you is the cute one and which one of you is the

06:43:31.980 pretty one oh well yeah oh yeah well yeah what is he did he i think it's just like i've heard that

06:43:39.660 too i think it's like just a difference in like like a vibe a vibe like cute is more like oh fun

06:43:44.220 playful whereas like beautiful is like more like yeah i guess she's the pretty maybe i feel like she's

06:43:51.020 more handsome than pretty what does that mean that's a compliment she looked good you're a

06:43:57.820 handsome woman you're very handsome you're the most handsome woman i i do not accept thank you

06:44:05.420 she's rejecting the perhaps compliment okay all right we got sons of limber sons of oh my i can't

06:44:12.380 speak sons of liberty donated 29.99 thank you man appreciate it there are exceptions but the rule applies

06:44:20.460 seems from deduction based on a massive sample size that women are naturally non-virtuous

06:44:26.220 they hide it will be four but today's women display it fully uh sons of liberty thank you

06:44:31.500 man appreciate it realize thank you thank you donated 29.99 thank you man zebra close your legs

06:44:38.620 chair two doesn't judge but only if your chat chair three w abortion views l covered femitism

06:44:45.100 chair four did you even talk this show chair five corn 304 l mormon biggie wants fit guy

06:44:53.500 it's funny that with the 304 because i actually checked the time before i came here and i was like

06:44:57.260 i was doing my makeup and then i looked at it it was 304 that's something random nice all right we

06:45:03.420 have selena gornez selena gornez donated 30 dollars jess seven rated herself 3.7 and maybe that's true

06:45:11.580 but her self-awareness and personality will make up for that in the long run stick to your fitness and

06:45:17.340 look into out treatments for bipolar disorder i'm handling it pretty well and um i'm gonna get

06:45:23.660 re-diagnosed because it was kind of like a doctor's suggestion not an official diagnosis

06:45:28.140 i think that re-diagnosis should happen every like five years too like because i i don't know who's

06:45:33.020 right and who's wrong i mentioned i'm mentally ill but people don't understand i wasn't diagnosed

06:45:36.460 with autism until i was 18 and bipolar until i was 21 so i've been hiding it pretty well and it also

06:45:41.740 depends on who is in your life at that point if someone was sucking like bleeding you dry and they

06:45:45.900 were not one guy yeah and and then there was maybe a lot of people you it also depends on who's

06:45:50.460 diagnosing you yeah yeah of course daniel mccoy donated 30 dollars for those who support ab are

06:45:57.500 you vegan if so is it okay to terminate a cow's pregnancy so i can eat the bovine fetus it's just

06:46:05.260 a clump of cells right abby stay based oh abby yeah anybody can i add something first of all i'm

06:46:14.220 completely against factory farming i think it's completely cruel and i think killing an animal

06:46:17.900 and the fetus just to eat it is wrong and stuff but i do understand that there is a difference

06:46:22.860 between humans and um animals and stuff i'm i am an animal activist even though i don't like pitbulls

06:46:29.740 so i'm gonna get crashed for that um but uh i think they deserve the best life possible what do you

06:46:35.500 think about what do i think about what monkeys oh primates i think animals should not be tested on

06:46:42.380 for any um treatments other than medical no but what do you think about them as as people or not

06:46:49.100 they don't have the the reason why humans are more valuable obviously from a religious perspective is

06:46:54.380 because we were made in the image of god but also it's the same agency they have right we have animals

06:47:01.820 animals only act on instinct whereas we have the ability to act based on morality and act above our

06:47:07.420 instinct and make complex decisions and have a sense of creativity that animals don't have

06:47:13.340 for real though i don't know what is it with monkeys there's something about monkeys that bother me

06:47:20.780 really what kind of monkey is all monkeys really bother me for some reason really well because have

06:47:27.020 you ever seen these they're kind of bullies have you ever seen these videos where they're like

06:47:32.140 there and one they're dangerous some of them a lot of them but they're like these tourist areas

06:47:37.260 they'll like steal your shit my little they'll steal your shit yeah really aggressive the chimps

06:47:43.180 will kill you really they'll play with you too some of these some of these monkeys are well tigers

06:47:49.420 and even some of the small ones their teeth they'll rip you up we the baby monkeys have really sharp

06:47:54.220 teeth oh no no no like mona monkeys there's there's certain monkeys that like they're they're still

06:47:59.500 small but their teeth aren't and they got they'll rip your flesh i like some orange ones the baby

06:48:05.660 orange ones because there's this thing called feast of the monkeys in thailand and that's like on my

06:48:09.180 bucket list and and it's every year and all these monkeys eat all this food that's just put out by

06:48:14.380 the townspeople and they're just raiding it and it's just they're everywhere and there's babies and

06:48:18.860 do it thailand's the best i went there yeah but yeah they do steal stuff though the the thievery is

06:48:24.540 is from the monkeys yeah they're just so smart it's almost intimidating and they do steal keep them as

06:48:29.900 pets and i think that's stupid oh yeah no there's warning signs whenever i go to like thailand or

06:48:34.380 china there's like warning signs inside of the buildings like keep the windows closed because

06:48:38.220 they're gonna come in and steal your stuff and the big ones will attack you got a message here selena

06:48:43.500 thank you selena i appreciate it share it might be boring but she's the type of girl that most men

06:48:49.340 want great attitude and soft feminine demeanor not to roast but i guess good panels are hard to roast

06:48:57.020 keep it up i appreciate that thank you uh thank you thank you selena gornez are we the best panel

06:49:04.780 is this the best panel i thought i mean it was uh it definitely leaned a bit more conservative which is uh

06:49:11.900 uh uh how do i explain it like usually it's a bit more split right there'll be like split

06:49:18.700 conservatives oh i thought you intentionally set it up like this what's that was i thought you set

06:49:23.180 it up like this on purpose uh no not really it was just kind of happenstance that happened to be but

06:49:28.060 it's good to have like a this is a little different than our normal show just because it leans more

06:49:32.460 conservative uh we had some other people that are i mean you're pretty much well it's you two are kind

06:49:37.820 more like left-leaning i guess so uh we were we had some flakes so uh and a walk-off so oh boy

06:49:45.580 large underscore labia donated 30 dollars yeah eight years do you i bang brian when he's talking

06:49:52.460 you stare at his lips and eyes it's weird she's looking at the beard she's admiring as a man looks

06:49:58.700 like brian north carolina she's actually right next to me right next to me there's there's like

06:50:09.100 computers and yeah also i've been looking at your notes she's been looking at this dr seuss book

06:50:16.540 this is what she's been eyeballing the better the butter battle book uh in fact here can you read the

06:50:21.900 first like three pages uh i appreciate you defending me oh i've got you okay here go ahead

06:50:27.660 read hold it up to the camera like how as if you're reading to children do you want me to like read the

06:50:32.380 my grandfather took me out to the wall sorry the wall for a while he stood silent then finally he said

06:50:40.860 with a very sad shake of his very old head as you know on this side of the wall we are yooks is that

06:50:47.420 what this is on the far other side of this wall lives the zooks okay i think that was sufficient

06:50:54.060 that's what you she's been really wanting i also have a harry potter book if you want to read something

06:50:58.700 uh the got the chamber of secrets yeah that makes me so uncomfortable no i am married

06:51:03.420 and obsessed with my husband and you're getting the wrong idea she's a good-looking yeah

06:51:08.940 oh yeah you saw my home screen you're like yeah he's he's also a model he's beautiful

06:51:14.060 there you have it folks uh the straight panda chair eight not sure what you keep staring at

06:51:18.700 what the fuck but oh this has been up the whole time uh it's definitely sus chill chair seven i

06:51:24.060 challenge you to find someone to debate andrew on joseph smith the difference between cute

06:51:30.140 okay i'm gonna address this now um i probably shouldn't but i've been reading your notes because

06:51:35.420 they're right here so that i can get a head start sorry but they are right there so unfair advantage

06:51:42.860 please leave me alone i'm obsessed with my husband it's weird all right guys uh we have

06:51:49.820 just a few more things to read then we're going to get this wrapped up so oops sorry guys uh guys

06:51:54.540 30 tts if you want to get a roast in here 30 tts and also guys follow us on youtube

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06:52:08.220 twitch.tv slash whatever and like the video guys if you've enjoyed the stream it was a

06:52:12.700 good panel we have a message here from selena selena gone is donated 30 dollars no not the best

06:52:20.460 but very good panel don't look a gift horse in the mouth it's a gift horse not a burrito this panel

06:52:27.420 is diverse in thoughts and opinions but not extreme in either direction it was a good panel it was a good

06:52:33.580 panel uh okay let's finish up these notes here uh lauren your one note is i think maybe you saw one

06:52:41.420 of my tweets you said what if the woman was nice her lifetime but never got was considered pretty

06:52:46.300 is this in response to my lip filler tweet it so you i think you said something about like lip filler or

06:52:51.180 plastic surgery and i um i just i think i said oh it's if let's say the woman was just not considered

06:53:01.660 pretty by like men and she just kept like it kept failing like she kept getting rejected or it just

06:53:08.060 wasn't working so she was like you know what i'm just gonna give plastic surgery a world to see if it

06:53:12.700 changes my fate and it did and that people responded to her like i remember the first day i got lip

06:53:18.300 filler and the first day i got plastic surgery men were like all of a sudden giving me their phone

06:53:22.220 numbers and like all of a sudden like holding doors open for me and i'm like dang like this is really

06:53:27.420 weird and and i remember i remember i got plastic surgery again it was like a couple weeks later

06:53:33.500 and i was only like 19 at that time but i started early and i remember when i got it and then this guy

06:53:40.620 like hit on me a like a this some random guy like another one i was like damn and i said to myself in

06:53:46.620 the car when i got back in i had like my starbucks or whatever i was like damn that's cold i was like

06:53:50.780 it's cold because if i if i went in there like three weeks ago he wouldn't even notice me but

06:53:56.860 because i did this i was like dang like that's hard like you know and so so you know i did it for

06:54:02.620 several years and i tried to make everything look pretty natural um there was a time i did go overboard

06:54:08.780 though and i look like an entirely different like nationality um so i i had to actually get some

06:54:14.060 stuff removed do you feel like you're doing women who try to be natural a disservice by giving like an

06:54:18.460 unrealistic standard um so i i just i just feel like i i refuse to suffer like i just i i'm over

06:54:26.060 that period of my life and i hope that you know those women could be like oh like i understand like

06:54:31.500 why does she keep having to struggle like if she's just trying to look like just fit in like you know

06:54:38.620 i don't i don't see anything wrong with it but i think i think that plastic surgery if somebody wants

06:54:43.100 to get it it's cool um but obviously there's we've all seen like you know they have like x boobs and

06:54:50.060 you know and and and you wonder like oh can they travel on an airplane is that safe um but uh yeah

06:54:57.420 well yeah you know they can explode if yeah it's too big and i but yeah i mean i that's real i just

06:55:03.260 always wondered that like i was like dang like what if the girl just wasn't considered attractive like

06:55:07.260 what is she supposed to just die i was like shows to die out yes no but look i mean uh but for i

06:55:13.980 guess for whatever for what other reason would women get plastic surgery but not to improve their

06:55:21.180 physical appearance so that's i mean you don't get plastic surgery to look worse so um well there are

06:55:26.620 some plastic surgeries that are kind of done for health benefits i haven't had a plastic surgery but

06:55:31.020 there is yeah but we're talking about cosmetic like i think the context of the conversation would

06:55:34.860 indicate like the i'm not talking about like you know you've got some war injury and you need your

06:55:41.260 face reconstructed or plastic surgery i'm talking about like you know lip fillers tit boob implants bbl

06:55:48.300 for me it was so what happened was is i think that i like overworked when i was young and like i've

06:55:54.780 totally like this will be like in my little novel i'm writing whatever but um i think i overworked and

06:56:00.220 what happens is is you start to lose like the collagen in your face and i literally my i work

06:56:06.940 at a i worked at aig for five years but before i worked at mcdonald's for five years and i remember

06:56:12.300 my customers would really like me and they knew me since high school and i remember one who was a

06:56:16.620 manager at aig came through the drive-thru and she was the one that discovered me and gave me my job

06:56:21.660 there she came through and she's like oh my gosh she was like what's wrong and i said i'm working three

06:56:25.660 jobs and i'm tired and she said honestly i thought you were an old woman like i'm and she said i'm

06:56:30.060 being really i'm not being mean she says you need to get out of here you need to get out of three jobs

06:56:34.940 i'm gonna get you like one solid job and you're gonna be okay sure enough i got out of there she

06:56:41.580 got me a job and i took off after that and then i got my plastic surgery and then my life changed

06:56:46.540 mm-hmm okay so plastic surgery you got more attention from the men i mean i i'm not gonna

06:56:54.620 actually even dispute that i'm sure that women uh me personally i mean aesthetically i don't find

06:56:59.420 plastic surgery attractive women uh if she has a small upper lip prefer that over the lip filler

06:57:05.340 like the lip filler lip just looks weird uh she could have small boobs i'd prefer that over like

06:57:11.100 perfect fake titties she could have no butt or a small butt i'd prefer that over a perfect bbl she

06:57:16.460 could have like a little belly fat i'd prefer that over the lipo belly um i think there's some uncanny

06:57:22.140 valley when it comes to the plastic surgery it doesn't quite look right i also think it uh i would

06:57:27.020 hope that women were we were pushing instead of going through these expensive and often dangerous

06:57:34.300 surgical procedures we pushed women more towards accepting

06:57:37.420 themselves as they are yeah i think that could be i think that'd be healthier and

06:57:43.100 both men and women do but i personally just my own aesthetic taste yeah i don't find it i don't

06:57:49.340 think it looks good and then i also think on top of that just aesthetically speaking i think it can

06:57:54.220 also be tends to be proxy for uh some sort of mental illness so there's like some body dysmorphia like

06:58:01.580 okay if you're you're so dissatisfied like let's say you have an a cup or a b cup you're so dissatisfied

06:58:06.780 with that that and i understand it can be a point of insecurity for some women um and they feel like

06:58:12.860 they might be more attractive to men if they had larger breasts but if it's like okay i'm going to

06:58:17.740 spend thousands of dollars and then uh go under anesthesia which carries a risk of death with it

06:58:24.940 so my breast so i can put plastic into my chest i think that that's like an indicator towards

06:58:32.300 body dysmorphia and vanity and like me personally i think most men a lot of this stuff i feel like

06:58:37.980 women do some of that stuff one yes for men but i almost think it's more so especially the lip filler

06:58:45.340 i think it's more so for women because i've spoken to a lot of men most men and this is this

06:58:51.020 was the tweet i wrote i don't think lip filler looks good like i genuinely like big lips are nice

06:58:58.620 and attractive but not the lip filler lips i think it was my teeth were so big they were i actually had

06:59:04.620 braces twice and i had braces for 11 years and um i also had got had to get the once they came off

06:59:10.300 everybody hated my smile and they're like uh better not smile like i don't like it looks creepy and so i

06:59:14.780 ended up replacing i took from my retirement and i replaced the entire topper of my teeth and instead

06:59:19.660 of getting a boob job and and then everyone's like wow you have such a beautiful smile you and i was

06:59:23.420 like wow i'm finally complimented jesus like took forever yeah sure i'm sure i i don't dispute the

06:59:28.780 fact that women who maybe got minimal or no uh attention from men they get fake tits they get

06:59:36.220 their face done they get the lip filler maybe they change other things about them and then they start

06:59:40.380 getting some more attention i'm sure that this happens i'm absolutely sure that this happens there's

06:59:45.180 probably some cohort of men who do like the fake fake breasts i'm not disputing this me personally and i

06:59:51.180 do think this is the case for the majority of men i think the majority of men uh don't want women with

06:59:56.860 plastic surgery and in addition to the aesthetic components i just don't think that it tends to be

07:00:04.220 an indicator perhaps it's doing us a favor in some ways if i see a girl with like crazy lip filler and

07:00:10.620 she's got botox and she's got uh fake boobs that's a red flag i'm like i'm not there's gonna be a mismatch

07:00:17.980 here in terms of in terms of values and um and there's there's gonna be something maybe materialistic

07:00:24.220 about her there's gonna be a degree of vanity that i don't find attractive and so to me i just i don't

07:00:30.540 like it i've asked a bunch of men if they like the lip fillers they don't like it i think the lip

07:00:34.780 filler thing the the closest thing that i could think of and maybe the women can weigh in here

07:00:39.980 you know those crazy steroid bodybuilders

07:00:42.060 mm-hmm yeah i think they know a lot of women say and i think it's different than lip filler it's not

07:00:48.300 a perfect one-to-one comparison a lot of women say those insanely huge bodybuilders they're like

07:00:54.140 i don't find that attractive it's like but they do it they do it for the vans

07:01:01.420 but they do it anyways and despite women's stated uh displeasure with the super steroid guys yeah and i

07:01:11.020 genuinely think well one they're doing it for themselves and but they're kind of doing it

07:01:15.900 for men yeah i i think if looking back so lip filler is like that like i think women

07:01:22.620 there's actually a study on this recently that came up but we don't we can't pull it up but

07:01:27.260 uh women i think get lip filler for other women because i think what's interesting is women's appraisal

07:01:33.820 of what makes women or themselves beautiful is kind of different than men in the same way that men who

07:01:39.420 are like aiming for the super super like massive musculature i do think women are attracted to

07:01:45.100 fit strong muscular men but not i don't think if you pull most of them it's not going to be like

07:01:51.180 that hyper like giant schwarzenegger arnold it's going to be more of like a very athletic

07:01:58.860 build that i think they're going to find like the most attractive yeah i think looking back out of i

07:02:04.540 think you know look i kind of i actually do kind of agree in a sense we're looking back i look at

07:02:09.660 the plastic surgery i got i look at my situation you know everything and i just think you know it

07:02:16.140 could just be i in summary my book is going to talk about i could have just been in the wrong place

07:02:22.540 what's the title of your book gonna be um the gentrification of me

07:02:26.300 the gentrification of me so i i absorbed different things from different places um over my whole life

07:02:35.500 and it became my personality and i was changed forever by by whatever uh the culture of uh it

07:02:42.380 there was a lot of iraqi influence where we were from and i learned a lot they helped me and i worked

07:02:47.900 i was the only um latin native that worked with uh iraqi i love the food and stuff and then there's also

07:02:54.620 other um playboy like everything influenced me like mcdonald's aig all that but last thing sure

07:03:01.340 last thing last thing yeah um so i think that um i was at the i i do in summation looking back on my

07:03:11.820 life i do believe uh some people they aren't mentally ill they aren't ugly they aren't this

07:03:17.660 they're that they're born in the wrong area and they need to get the hell out after three if if you're

07:03:21.660 like 18 and you're having really bad experience let's say you had bad experiences or just not so

07:03:26.380 savory ones the majority of those years and then three more years go by it's time to get out of

07:03:31.660 dodge and you need to go to a different place because perhaps like you said like men like like

07:03:38.540 you like i feel like from my in my town it was very maybe there was more attractive women than me

07:03:44.620 out there you just didn't get hit on i didn't at all and and i but other women other i was the

07:03:50.060 friend girl i was the guy's friend i was the guy's friend but then they would always tell me oh your

07:03:54.700 friend is so beautiful you're i was the ugly friend like it to them and so i i literally was just like

07:04:00.780 i had you know yeah i know and i like i had can't believe it i had little things here and there but

07:04:07.260 then once i once the i would say once like 18 hit or i would say 19 to 21 that wasn't good years at

07:04:17.660 all and so um or i would say even 18 but um yeah it was just those were the toughest ones but once i

07:04:23.820 got into playboy and everything changed cool but yeah i think i was in the wrong place i should have

07:04:28.860 been somewhere else and maybe people would have found me attractive somewhere else and and i think

07:04:33.820 you should have gone to uh you should have gone anywhere else you should have gone to kenya

07:04:37.820 yeah i mean i could i could have and then maybe men would have found you in kenya but you had to be

07:04:43.900 born in alcohol in oklahoma of course it didn't of course since you know well we should have packed

07:04:50.860 your bags sent you to nigeria maybe maybe i would have felt like ethiopia maybe gone somewhere

07:04:58.620 they would have loved you in somalia yeah and but then like these fucking american men the

07:05:04.620 fuck i don't know it unacceptable i think it was just the grass was greener there probably was very

07:05:09.820 beautiful is there grass in ethiopia i don't know is there grass sahara do they know how to do

07:05:16.780 landscape whatever okay i gotta move it on okay thank you thank you no it was good thank you lauren uh

07:05:21.980 okay hayley hayley you said you've been through two rough relationships wait did we cover this last

07:05:27.580 time no we didn't cover yeah we didn't cover any of my notes uh two rough relationships one that got

07:05:32.380 physical involved weed and alcohol why the other one just the twist uh he used to twist scripture

07:05:38.380 and using verses out of context as benefit proverbs 21 19 uh no that's my go-to i need to

07:05:45.180 not lay down the law

07:05:48.460 proverbs 21 19 better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife is that the only bible

07:05:54.460 verse you have memorized uh i also know the one where it i don't recall the name of it but it

07:06:00.300 goes something like this it goes something like this children sons excuse me sons in the man's youth

07:06:08.780 are like arrows in the hand of a warrior nice i actually don't know how does the rest go

07:06:15.820 rich is the man whose quiver is full

07:06:18.540 mm-hmm or some shit yeah something like that or some shit's also part of it i think

07:06:24.380 yeah i think it's there um which translation are you reading the atlas new king's atlas i don't know

07:06:31.420 um all right uh but okay so he threw scripture in your face uh you're currently in the most healthy

07:06:38.460 relationship you've ever been in you couldn't thank god more you guys met on christian dating app

07:06:42.780 christian mingle uh no upward upward all right these girls are both on it um you said that uh

07:06:50.940 you guys known each other for two years august together for two years uh in november he's in

07:06:56.620 the air force he's five and a half years is he deployed or no he's not but he was deployed so he

07:07:01.500 was in where's he stationed uh right now he's in fairfield uh travis air force so is it long distance

07:07:06.620 um yes because i am going to school in fresno so it's like medium distance okay medium distance

07:07:13.420 medium distance relationship uh you wouldn't have expected when you were younger but he is your dream

07:07:17.820 man he has all the qualities you have prayed for your whole life uh okay that's cool you said men

07:07:22.860 initiating you understand the reasoning why why men don't initiate as much as they did back then but

07:07:27.740 men don't even try at all anymore um yeah does this resonate with any of the females here men just

07:07:33.340 yeah they're not trying men not initiating yeah i feel like before i started dating i was kind of

07:07:39.900 just like waiting around for a man to even come up and like have a conversation with me about like

07:07:46.700 you know if i was single or anything like that and i feel like that was never happening when i was

07:07:51.900 single i don't know if you guys have had i feel like it's because of social media honestly that like

07:07:57.180 guys can get what they want without having to go talk in person like snapchat i hate as someone who

07:08:02.780 works in youth ministry at my church i tell all my middle school girls delete snapchat it's bad news

07:08:07.820 guys are just on there to get pictures from girls and i definitely know some guys that pursue like

07:08:13.500 even my brother for example he goes and ask girls out and for sure so i wouldn't say that and i also

07:08:18.860 think that girls too unfortunately um deny a lot of guys also because of social media so i think it kind

07:08:26.780 kind of goes both ways like abby said um you said majority of women are very hypocritical but them

07:08:34.700 put themselves on the pedestal and think the world basically revolves around them modern dating is

07:08:38.860 horrible women wanting all the things from men without even knowing what he would want in a perfect

07:08:43.900 woman um yeah i think women um are very hypocritical i think that they uh try and stand on values because

07:08:51.980 they know that those values will take them somewhere positive um but then they make decisions that are

07:08:58.700 absolutely completely opposite of what they are advocating for so it's there's just a lot of

07:09:05.420 hypocrisy um so it's very frustrating you guys have me using the term bars all the time

07:09:13.980 bars blessed is the man wait this the son's a man wait a son's in a man's youth

07:09:21.180 are like arrows in a warrior's hand blessed is he whose quivers okay i don't know i i forgot

07:09:29.180 the reference was the reference yeah it was the actual verse like oh psalm 127 4 yeah yeah uh okay

07:09:36.860 we have let's see with haley's thing i think uh you said oh you also think women have the most

07:09:42.460 optionality when they stay virgins and as you get more bodies the less options you will have yeah

07:09:47.500 are you virgin or i'm not um but i do agree that i think that wait are you waiting till marriage

07:09:53.340 though or no i am not oh okay yeah yeah he's your dream man he is he is my dream man yes if he

07:10:04.220 proposed if he proposed to this day i yeah i i would give everything for that man so okay all

07:10:12.220 right final notes here for caitlin caitlin final person anyways you said your first date ever was

07:10:17.420 when you were 16 his ex showed up and cuddled with him yeah oh my god i'm a little his ex showed

07:10:24.700 up and cuddled with him and he was so sweet but also tried to cuddle with you you left this was your

07:10:30.460 first date ever it was my very first date that's traumatic it was so traumatic so traumatic what

07:10:35.180 the heck it was awful why did he do that um he didn't invite her it was a double date so he and

07:10:41.660 his friend invited her because he wanted to get the gang back together the gang what the heck

07:10:46.300 wait are you sure this was a date it's a date no i told him very clearly this is the first date

07:10:50.620 it's a double date um it's my very first day i'm so excited to meet with you and the guy just

07:10:54.700 did not comprehend and thought i was gonna skedaddle before it was so weird i'm traumatized

07:10:59.980 that does you said you believe women need to be submissive and men need to man up and be masculine

07:11:04.300 abortion oh wait uh okay uh yeah abortion was even the thing to bring into modern society and for us

07:11:12.940 to thrive it needs to be eradicated absolutely okay you said uh you disagree with brian on the

07:11:18.940 artificial womb discussion and male promiscuity okay uh we'll have to be quick on these but

07:11:24.300 let's start with the male promiscuity one what's the disagreement um i believe you used to be kind

07:11:28.860 of okay with male promiscuity i don't remember 100 i was watching some old episodes and i think you

07:11:33.740 used to be you're anti-marriage right you are from what i understand yeah well so i'll adjust the first

07:11:41.260 thing so um i don't think i've ever i'm pretty sure for the most part i've been uh against male

07:11:48.700 promiscuity i might have gotten it but but i think there's differences for uh i think there's

07:11:53.980 differences so yeah yeah but i agree i'm not in favor of male promiscuity but i do think it's uh

07:12:02.620 there's a difference no i agree like it's any woman could be a slut not every man can be a slut yeah

07:12:12.460 so it's kind of like if the man is a slut it takes a bit of skill it does but i think it takes a bit of

07:12:18.300 the skill for a lot more skill to hide conceal those urges i think it's way more attractive if

07:12:23.740 a guy is like hey i have these urges but i held them back i have so much great control over myself

07:12:29.100 yeah and then i guess the other component is there i think there's more of a perhaps a biological urge

07:12:36.380 for promiscuity in them yeah i think society functions better monogamously but i think from like

07:12:43.500 a biological level just just due to reproduction like y'all can only get pregnant like a man can

07:12:52.380 have sleep with 10 different women get them all pregnant per day maybe not 10 i mean especially

07:12:58.700 if he's in his 30s but a woman you got nine months that's it so there's like an evolutionary thing yeah

07:13:06.140 or biological definitely but i don't think it's good for society and uh yeah but let's switch to

07:13:11.500 artificial oh well anti-marriage yes not not in favor of marriage you don't think i should be

07:13:17.020 married uh no so i think for religious reasons it's actually a great just like that's the only

07:13:22.860 reason i can think of to get married but i can't actually think if i'm open to hearing a compelling

07:13:28.620 secular argument for why uh like a benefit in totality for why men should get married okay so in my church

07:13:37.100 you get sealed in the temple and not only do you did you miss the part about secular but go ahead

07:13:40.780 okay sorry no go ahead in my church you um get to be sealed in the temple and be with them for

07:13:45.500 eternity so the benefit of doing the marriage past the law um and um doing a temple marriage is you

07:13:52.220 get to be with this person in heaven forever wait what happened to death do us part yeah like i'll give

07:13:57.580 you uh earthly like i'll be with you i can stand you for my earth life but once it's heaven i'm good

07:14:05.660 once we get to heaven you're gonna try it was nice knowing you right because it was death till death

07:14:11.260 yeah yeah in heaven we're not going to start playing like yeah i haven't we're not going to

07:14:15.900 recognize our husbands madison maddie madeline sorry i'm sorry madeline madeline is that french

07:14:23.020 that's a french name that's a french that's a french that's a french you know you dead to us

07:14:33.500 part no there's no marriages in heaven i think you can't get married no there's no marriage in heaven

07:14:38.140 no i mean there's no sex no no are we just like barbie dolls there's nothing there it's just

07:14:42.700 no we're just so happy those are earthly earthly desires yeah earthly desires so is it like avatar in

07:14:48.060 heaven desires of the flesh you know in the avatar where it's like the the hairs connect yeah

07:14:53.020 no there's just no marriage anymore it's just like we wouldn't we won't care about that anymore

07:14:58.940 we'll be too happy i always felt like surfing in heaven can you snowboard and cloud surfing

07:15:04.540 actually not snowboarding in utah i think i always you're more of a skier though i feel like you're

07:15:11.020 a skier and it's kind of you know but i felt like snowboarding is just better sorry if um if let's

07:15:19.420 say um let's say nobody found their soulmate i always had this weird like twilight zone theory

07:15:24.140 that like here we go lauren tell us the story oh yeah okay so i always had this weird twilight

07:15:28.620 zone theory if you can't find your soulmate in your life whoever the hell you're buried next to i'm not

07:15:33.900 like saying like let's say you're buried alone the closest person to you that's going to be like

07:15:37.660 you're like so wait like i i had this weird idea but that was just like you know an idea i believe god

07:15:43.020 has everyone for someone and stuff but you know it doesn't have to happen in this life yeah where's

07:15:50.220 the scripture for that no there's no i'm not doing a scriptural debate but i will bring my father on

07:15:54.860 and we can bring up scripture mine was just for my head wait wasn't like okay i'm not gonna linger on

07:16:01.100 the mormon thing didn't y'all find a book like somewhere yes it was yeah golden plates the golden

07:16:09.660 plates yes they're golden in the forest and their plates yeah yeah paper plates no in golden um in

07:16:16.700 golden just gold sheets oh like a uh okay a tablet yeah yeah and the one where are they now who

07:16:25.340 wasn't joseph smith said oh this is true and then he realized what they were saying in the book and

07:16:29.020 he's like wait no it's not true take it back are there aliens in mormonism no i thought they were

07:16:33.980 like aliens there's an alien religion now wait what where are the golden plates now they were

07:16:39.420 removed by moroni there is an alien religion though and it there were it was some it was it

07:16:45.100 was in el cajon and and they had a spaceship and people would worship it have you been abducted i

07:16:50.460 don't know i think wait have you been abducted i haven't been abducted have you been probed

07:16:54.700 did they probe you i didn't get probed but i will say this that's well that's been your book i have

07:16:58.780 seen uh yeah this will be in the book i had i had seen and you i genuinely saw you got pro crazy

07:17:04.620 really yeah when i got abducted by an alien when like he doesn't remember yeah it's like covet time

07:17:14.140 you know it was like social distancing or whatever did you flow up in the in the light and

07:17:19.660 like you know how they get through yeah yeah no i got beamed up dang yeah that was crazy wow yeah

07:17:27.660 the aliens they spoke spanish for some reason oh i don't know why i was like whoa yeah it was

07:17:34.060 we it was really weird i don't speak spanish so i was like can you habla like donde esta la biblioteca

07:17:39.900 i don't know anyways okay hold on let's get off the alien yeah they taught me while they're probing

07:17:46.060 me they're taught telling me about the biblioteca el bondegas in la biblioteca yes i don't know what

07:17:52.700 that means but yes okay uh so uh wait oh really quick anti-marriage uh yeah i can't actually you know

07:18:00.540 what there's risks even to uh religious men i understand the traditional justification though for

07:18:06.140 getting married because there's a uh religious comp there's a compelling i don't know what the

07:18:15.500 fuck um it's like uh under religion that's like what you gotta kind of have to do you know yeah

07:18:21.580 i mean no honestly i don't think that there's a super compelling non-religious reason to get married

07:18:27.580 except for i mean you are pro family kids right yes yeah but you can have you can like stay with

07:18:34.140 somebody forever but there's no but why would you not want a like actual commitment to them like a

07:18:41.100 oh it is a commitment yeah but like they're that's just don't you like why wouldn't you get

07:18:46.780 married like why not i remember an episode that candace owns came on here oh and she was speaking

07:18:54.220 facts about how it just doesn't make sense outside of the religious it really doesn't yeah at all

07:19:01.260 like the only thing that makes sense is like when you get hurt and they're like oh the only person

07:19:06.140 that's like gonna take care of you is your husband because like they won't call your mom and dad yeah

07:19:10.940 they call your husband yeah like that's well i mean i mean your next next of kin which would be

07:19:15.660 your parents can that would have a medical authority in the case of what if you don't have parents

07:19:20.220 anymore at god forbid whatever age well whoever your next of kin would be would then have uh they

07:19:25.900 would be able to make medical decisions for you but you could do a i think it's called a it's like a

07:19:31.820 advanced health care directive so you can yeah if i wanted to like an authorized user yeah madeline

07:19:38.460 over there she could be my advanced health care directive and she could if i got into coma i'd be

07:19:43.740 a little scared you know she's like she's not gonna she yeah she's not gonna keep me on life

07:19:48.620 support she's gonna be like fuck this guy he can you know i'll give him three hours and then it's

07:19:55.580 done be really nice but uh i just i have even for religious men though because all the negatives

07:20:03.340 that i could list to you which i won't just for the sake of time all the negatives when it comes to

07:20:07.660 divorce these would equally apply to christian men so but for secular i just don't see what what the

07:20:17.180 point is and then there's substantial risks even for christian men to get married or at least the i

07:20:22.620 i shouldn't say i mean it's the breadwinner forever whoever the breadwinner is uh but even

07:20:27.740 yeah what about a marriage not under the law but under the lord well i mean then you got to be careful

07:20:34.620 with certain states have common law marriage and then yeah and then um prenups get challenged okay

07:20:42.300 they get thrown out they could be the uh you know i signed this under duress blah blah blah it's

07:20:48.060 they can be challenged they are challenged and uh look you know look just give me a

07:20:53.980 compelling reason i can i can go forever i can tell you why i think marriage is bad tell me why

07:21:00.140 marriage is good so you can be with your person forever and your family but hold on i can be

07:21:05.340 with my i can stay with somebody i can meet somebody today uh and stay with them for the rest of my life

07:21:11.100 but not if you're not still with them in the temple you can be with them for the rest of your life

07:21:14.300 but in heaven right but i'm waiting for a not you can file jointly on taxes

07:21:20.540 but that's great if you're a mormon what if you're non-mormon there's no secular argument to

07:21:26.220 get behind marriage marriage is a religious sacrament so for someone to get married when

07:21:33.500 they're not religious there is there really is no point yeah i mean you can have the same

07:21:38.060 you can accomplish the same thing without marriage yeah you can still have a wedding without being

07:21:42.940 married you can have all the same things that you would have in a marriage without the actual

07:21:48.060 would you have a wedding but not get like officially married like a celebration of like

07:21:54.780 being together it sounds kind of i don't know it's fine you don't have to do like the whole

07:21:58.780 white dress everything but just like a big party it would be so much is the wedding

07:22:02.780 i'll cry and it'll be great i had a i had to see fun planned parenthood take at my wedding it was

07:22:07.820 great that was great it was fantastic i'll take her like i'll have like a valentine's day dinner with

07:22:14.860 my girlfriend that is not a wedding that is not a valentine's day dinner okay but do you think you're

07:22:21.660 going to find a girl that genuinely just doesn't just wants to chill and never get married oh yeah yeah

07:22:28.700 okay yeah i'm good do you think she'll be a good woman that's pure if that makes sure yeah she's

07:22:33.660 pure no like a virgin do you think you're going to meet a virgin who is they're secular virgins okay

07:22:38.940 or do you think i'll just do you think you'll find someone that aligns with your values non-denominational

07:22:45.500 christian what do you think you'll find someone that still aligns with your values even though they

07:22:49.500 don't want to get married or you think it'll be more difficult what do you mean like their libs

07:22:53.660 like their libtard like their like they don't they are fine without getting married but they

07:22:59.420 have opposite morals or viewpoints than you uh no no i'm not i'm not too worried about it

07:23:09.260 yeah i mean it's probably like more realistic that somebody who does want to get married could lean

07:23:15.820 but i mean there's like feminist liberal women who want to get married too that's true yeah so i mean

07:23:20.700 i was just curious if like the feminist liberal if that would be a deal breaker yeah like i mean

07:23:28.380 yeah sure i mean i wouldn't if they were like pleasant but still liberal and but didn't want

07:23:34.700 to get married would you uh yeah would that mind virus yeah i mean i think well one i think people

07:23:42.780 have been brainwashed and propagandized so you there's some degree of like uh can you

07:23:47.740 do undo some of that stuff but uh typically i don't think i don't think i want to do the work

07:23:55.100 to like deprogram some like yeah pink-haired feminist lady no that's fair that's fair yeah

07:24:00.620 not probably not my ideal um but yeah i i don't know i marriage have i heard i don't know if i've

07:24:06.540 heard a compelling no it's good guess you gotta i understand become a christian or i could just

07:24:11.580 i don't know i want like seven kids and stuff but do you actually i might have to come yeah

07:24:18.140 really i gave you look i i gave you the bible verse right what is it psalms whatever 137 psalms 127

07:24:27.500 4 you know yeah i want like i want three sons at least so if she pumps out seven daughters

07:24:35.260 gotta go three more keep going we keep going until i get three sons i need three sons okay

07:24:41.580 i used to want 20 kids been there 20 kids yeah i legit used to want 20 kids solid three is good

07:24:46.780 i'm i need three 20 years i know i like did the math and i was like wait a minute

07:24:52.540 i need three sons we can keep going after three but as long as you get three sons you're satisfied

07:24:59.820 i need three sons because you got you gotta i want to have the brother dynamic but if one of them's a

07:25:07.420 fuck up yes which i'm gonna make sure i'm gonna do my best to make sure they're not a fuck up

07:25:12.300 there's gotta be a backup but what if all of them are that you know what that's a scary thought

07:25:18.860 or what if they've got some like fucked up you know so i'm like

07:25:24.940 i know exactly i know what you're talking about yeah yeah are you making a eugenics argument no i would

07:25:31.980 i'm not saying i'm just saying like what if your kid is a little special retarded

07:25:41.900 i would still love him

07:25:44.860 but you might want another if i could have a son who

07:25:49.420 you might think when you have it what is that is that a bad is that really a bad thought like

07:25:54.540 i'd rather not have it's it would probably be expensive isn't that like terrible for the marriage

07:25:59.900 also like i've heard horror stories no it is it really is like especially like for instance

07:26:04.460 families with down syndrome statistically families who have a child with down syndrome are happier

07:26:09.260 well so um wait families with a like with a child with a or in any family people

07:26:17.900 people with down syndrome they tend to have a very positive out yeah

07:26:21.900 so nice so it's kind of it's a little bit

07:26:23.980 but i don't know if that's like well if that's the case then we shouldn't we like be breeding

07:26:28.300 more shouldn't we be breeding towards that no because our society i would actually date somebody

07:26:33.580 with down syndrome you've talked about this i would i would i don't know if i'd like stay with her

07:26:39.420 forever but just like it's a novelty no like it's it's a seriously like they really do like they're

07:26:44.540 such happy people and it's so sad like we've and like places like like iceland they've completed

07:26:50.060 completely eradicated down syndrome by avoiding every single baby i get i get it but like if i

07:26:54.860 have sons they need to be able to go to war with me like why is warrior goal no what i'm saying is

07:27:01.580 i'm not saying like i want to go to a war so when you get drafted when i say war i'm using it in like

07:27:07.980 an artistic sense of like we need to be i need to be able to go to war with my sons in like a uh what's

07:27:15.260 live life fully together what's the uh you want to be able to relate to them in that way and connect

07:27:20.860 with them what's the what's the term masculine like kind of bond no no but like i need to be able to

07:27:26.140 go to war not literally but figuratively right yeah yeah i just think it's different when you do have

07:27:31.740 a child although to be fair down syndrome they're pretty strong physically so i think that they have

07:27:37.500 that she knows what i'm talking about yeah have you seen the peanut butter falcon oh yeah i've seen

07:27:43.260 that yeah so you know what good movie you know what i might be convinced you know what fine i

07:27:47.500 won't be that upset if i knew i knew like two families that had guys it's jokes at the end of

07:27:53.260 the show it's just well i knew a family that had two a kid with down syndrome and then one adopted

07:27:58.540 a one with downs and and they were doing just fine they were actually more men one of them couples was

07:28:03.020 mormon um but yeah i mean it was cool and the kid went to our school and but is that a bad thing to

07:28:09.100 say like i hope my kids aren't like is that i think it would be no i think that's a you would

07:28:16.140 be concerned about their future in a sense you're like oh my goodness like i think if as if i had a

07:28:20.300 child if i were a child and for some reason and they're and they did have down syndrome i would be

07:28:26.140 concerned like oh my goodness what's going to happen if i'm not here anymore who's going to take

07:28:29.900 care of them do i have to get them a nursing home set up i'm i'm are they going to treat them right

07:28:33.420 at this nursing home that would be my concerns for quality of life quality of life like and

07:28:38.460 of life and then and it's like i would still love them but i would want the best care and also if i

07:28:42.620 couldn't take care of them the way that they needed to i would need to get them a nursing home i wouldn't

07:28:47.580 want to abandon them i would have to get them a nursing home that they could be treated and then

07:28:51.580 i could go visit because i can't what if they had a diaper or something i couldn't you pick them up or

07:28:57.100 something who knows and yeah big big thoughts about uh just to move things along here you said

07:29:03.900 the artificial wound thing we'll touch on it for one or two minutes it's just dehumanizing motherhood

07:29:10.220 i just think it's dehumanizing to motherhood actually i have a question about artificial

07:29:14.540 wombs for the two pro-choicers artificial wombs dismantle the my body my choice argument right if we

07:29:21.500 could successfully create artificial wombs and just take the baby out and put it in the womb

07:29:27.020 and said would you be supportive of that in abortion i'm going to be so honest my brain is kind of

07:29:32.380 clocking out because i'm getting a little sleepy but i do think i feel like they're still going to

07:29:37.580 people have their own bodies are a little crazy but i think science is all crazy so i think all science

07:29:44.380 like that is crazy like it's so crazy science i love that thing um yeah so here i'll have a little

07:29:50.460 back and forth with you really quick on the artificial womb thing so i mean look my position

07:29:54.380 isn't we make a mass transfer all women who are pregnant all women despite them wanting to complete

07:30:01.580 a pregnancy we use an artificial womb i'm saying this would my argument for the artificial womb has

07:30:08.620 always been this would be a compromise between pro-choice pro-life so okay uh you can save the life

07:30:15.980 but the woman can end the pregnancy so you transfer it to the artificial womb i know it's not ideal

07:30:22.780 probably not the ideal for both sides but it would be the it would be the compromise and it would

07:30:26.940 honestly put this whole thing to rest i do think it's better than abortion but also i don't think it

07:30:31.820 holds women accountable and they're not able to bond with that child because a lot of women might be

07:30:35.660 like oh i'm gonna get an abortion and then they get pregnant and they grow the child and they're like

07:30:39.660 holy crap i'm gonna be a mother right no there's yeah but i mean women also are you are you against

07:30:45.020 adoption i have two adopted sisters now yeah but but so wouldn't that same argument apply to adoption

07:30:52.940 adoption is a last resort but like with artificial wombs like when a woman is pregnant there's an

07:30:58.220 exchange of cells between her and the baby and that's very important i mean the baby does bond like

07:31:02.300 you said with the mother during pregnancy that's optimal for them so that when they're born they're able to

07:31:06.700 have that really beneficial experience and that bonding so i think it's really i i mean i'd like

07:31:12.780 to see more studies into it and i do think the artificial womb thing does dismantle the pro-choice

07:31:17.420 argument to an extent there are pro-choicers that don't care think that you should be able to kill

07:31:21.660 even though it's a human for other reasons um like destiny's argument but no i i think it is a

07:31:26.780 interesting thing that i like to bring up because it i mean how about how about this assuming that

07:31:31.740 it would in terms of its health its mental health and its uh bodily health if the artificial womb

07:31:39.340 was able to meet like the exact same uh health standards as a natural pregnancy or whatever uh

07:31:47.980 what what are the objections there i guess i don't particularly have any objections other than the fact

07:31:53.180 that it could go really wrong oh sure yeah there's like dystopian like really crazy things where they're

07:31:58.620 like humans are being grown in like labs and stuff and women aren't needed anymore we're just gonna

07:32:04.220 you know yeah those are those are concerns but i think like if you're looking at it in a vacuum

07:32:10.780 like it is an interesting potential solution to the yeah uh would you would you support any

07:32:16.620 abortion if artificial wombs were a thing um well i i think if artificial wounds are things that would be

07:32:22.620 great but um i mean the person who got pregnant would still be in a different body than the artificial

07:32:28.460 womb unless they could transfer over that baby to the artificial that's what that's what the

07:32:32.380 argument oh wait wait wait so so i never heard about that so they can transfer not yet but they're

07:32:37.420 working on i mean i would say yeah i i think i think if the woman wants to do that if there's no

07:32:46.780 would there be would there be like health um like like like could you be like oh my gosh well there's

07:32:52.060 like the surgery and you could possibly die like in it if they couldn't if there was like zero chance i

07:32:56.460 would i would question the person in a sense room like oh like huh like you couldn't transfer the

07:33:03.100 baby to the artificial womb when when there is no health risks at all like i would be curious of

07:33:08.540 why they would terminate it that that's what some i'd be concerned about that and i'd be like why

07:33:13.740 why would you do that if if there's no risk to you but you would still think it should be legal to

07:33:18.060 abort the baby when there's an alternative to just put them in an artificial womb oh sorry um i i

07:33:22.860 i do have i do apologize just for the sake of time i know it's getting late i do have to move

07:33:26.540 things on just to get this wrapped up here pretty soon i'm gonna let these chats come through

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07:33:54.620 all right we have lulu here lulu donated 30 dollars brian what do you think of south korean plastic

07:34:01.260 surgery sure looks natural and people who do it look undeniably prettier yeah that's actually a good

07:34:07.020 point because uh i've seen some you know i think maybe surgery 10 years ago 20 years ago wasn't as

07:34:13.340 advanced or as good so i've definitely seen videos of these transformations and it depends what they do

07:34:19.900 but some of these uh plastic surgeries are actually now very convincing and they don't actually many

07:34:27.900 times they don't really look like they've had plastic surgery um they're very good um so i suppose in

07:34:37.420 terms of aesthetically if if i've can't if it doesn't look bad then uh sure you can make an

07:34:47.020 aesthetic argument that they look better and i think this is the case for uh

07:34:52.780 like nose jobs um i've definitely you know i got a big notion i gotta i gotta get me one of those but um

07:35:01.580 um but i've like nose job what's interesting about that is that for nose jobs for i mean there's can be

07:35:08.940 botched nose jobs but a nose job typically it'll match what could have been or what another nose looks

07:35:19.420 like so to me that tends to have quite a big impact and it's actually remarkable what's what even just like

07:35:25.820 a nose job can do but um what do i think about it i mean i'm still kind of there's like a deception

07:35:33.340 component because it's like okay if you're gonna have kids with them and they're actually not it's

07:35:37.100 not what they look like and then they're still like there's still the vanity component uh so like

07:35:42.300 aesthetically yes they could be more physically attractive but they're still okay the vanity component

07:35:47.660 uh do they have body dysmorphia that typically gets tied into like some other mental illnesses

07:35:52.860 that's going to be an issue there's a financial issue of like okay are they going to look to me

07:35:57.740 as the provider to like pay for their future plastic surgeries their revisions their you know when

07:36:03.900 they're 40 50 whatever they want me to pay for that do i want to pay for it probably not um so those are

07:36:10.780 some components uh not really super in favor of plastic surgery but uh yeah some of that stuff super

07:36:17.260 convincing selena gorn is donated 30 i'm a man and i don't personally know any other men who prefer

07:36:25.340 makeup or plastic surgery over a woman's natural look i think most of us are on team bricks and

07:36:31.660 hashtag natural body supremacist natural i'm a natural body supremacist um thank you appreciate it

07:36:38.140 speaking of which uh big labia matter okay all right uh we have this one from justin justin martin's

07:36:44.700 donated 30 burrito can't think of a good roast so i'll just say burrito so it's stuck in your head

07:36:51.980 now as per usual good day brian yo justin thank you so much man really appreciate it uh one of the

07:36:58.220 last things we do before the end of the show we have everybody take off their makeup oh my god oh

07:37:02.700 this is actually gonna save my life right now m dog i'm so tired m dog oh my gosh i'll take off

07:37:10.540 wait can i get like a can i get like my compact mirror to make sure that none of this goes in my

07:37:14.220 just look at yourself no right here look in the look in the thing uh all right uh while we're doing

07:37:19.660 that uh do you guys think going around the table do you think men who care about body count are

07:37:24.220 insecure um not insecure into the mic not insecure but i mean i i don't even ask that question anymore

07:37:32.300 go ahead no i don't think they are sorry ask the question again uh do men who care about body count

07:37:37.900 are they insecure uh it depends okay oh um no no you're gonna take off the makeup i think it's kind of

07:37:48.220 stupid but why why is it stupid um i just think the premise of it is stupid i what's the premise

07:37:55.260 myself without makeup too but yes oh then no problem right do it i have no lydia i have to film videos

07:38:01.980 after that yeah oh you're filming something after this i have a i have to leave early in the morning

07:38:06.300 for a tour stop and i don't want to redo my makeup after this true i have no eyebrows yeah well madeline

07:38:12.380 you don't have a tour stop so do you want to do it she's good all right base submissive housewife

07:38:19.500 um wait so okay uh let's see here oh body count are men insecure if they care about a woman's body

07:38:26.700 no absolutely not okay nope sweet uh going around the table what's your body count starting with lauren

07:38:35.500 uh thousand and like probably like three hundred or something like bonnie blue and like lilly phillips

07:38:43.100 and i'm in the thousands club

07:38:48.220 about that much

07:38:52.540 okay uh that's cool uh body count i'm at four i'm at four four four yeah because casual sex doesn't

07:39:01.260 benefit women so period it's just my personal opinion i mean i don't hate you you're a liar

07:39:10.380 four i believe it sure sure fine i believe it three okay one zero

07:39:20.860 uh it's a single digit you want to do a range like five to five to nine okay zero one

07:39:31.260 okay cool oh wait hold on multiply it by three and that's the real number whatever you guys say

07:39:38.380 that's four yeah and the two i was i was dated wait question for m-dog m-dog are you uh

07:39:49.100 are you waiting until marriage for your next guy or yeah i was an atheist for a portion of my life

07:39:55.260 okay i oh i see yeah but now i see i really see the value in that and god has definitely like

07:40:01.660 redeemed my past and i'm grateful for the things that i believe in now and the faith that i hold

07:40:07.180 i see girl okay all right yeah uh that felt so good honestly it did wait can you hold up the makeup

07:40:14.700 wipe to the oh yeah see it's only eyeliner i do not wear foundation because i believe that your skin

07:40:21.420 is just your skin like pimple who cares all right sweet okay uh sweet we did that uh did the makeup

07:40:30.380 rock and roll there's just like two or three things on here that we're gonna do then we're gonna wrap

07:40:34.380 uh what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband actually i don't know

07:40:39.180 if there's any interesting answers here you know what i'm gonna skip that one because there's nothing

07:40:44.460 interesting i don't even think the height one there's no interesting things uh we'll do the

07:40:51.420 bear though would you cross paths with a rant would you rather excuse me cross paths with a random man

07:40:57.100 or a random bear well the question said that it was on a hike and on a hike yeah yeah yeah and honestly uh

07:41:04.460 the forest holds like the most unsolved mysteries of the murders just because it's so big and anything

07:41:10.700 could happen and not to be like yeah gabby petito but like there's just certain men that are out there

07:41:17.020 that are a little evil and i'm not saying all men are evil but there's certain men that just have

07:41:22.220 weird you know and i hate to say it but a bear yeah what about you um absolutely a bear wait i sorry i

07:41:30.940 do not want to run into a bear okay so you'd rather run into a man yes okay lady yeah i'd run into it

07:41:37.180 rather run into a man man for sure i'd rather run into a bear but if it was between a bull and a man

07:41:45.740 i would pick a i'd pick a man because i'm scared of bulls because bulls will will i've seen some

07:41:50.940 scary videos okay i've taken a nap with a bull not gonna lie best sleep of my life

07:41:57.020 um what was the question again man or bear um so i i choose so last time i chose bear um and i

07:42:04.060 actually have a little bit of a story uh i was riding around on campus on my electric scooter

07:42:09.900 and i actually saw a wild raccoon and got very frightened so i changed my man to i changed my

07:42:17.260 answer to man because i think i would be much more terrified being around a wild bear okay what about

07:42:23.100 you um i've tried to pet a bear my sister had to lock me in the car um autism blue uh but i would choose

07:42:30.940 bear but if it was a group of men i would choose men simply because a bear cannot hurt me in the

07:42:37.740 same way a man can i see and then the chat's gonna okay abigail your answer man you wrote bear

07:42:45.660 you were a bear would you rather then i made the same mistake she is oh okay all right all right uh

07:42:53.020 so wait let's see well that's a good point because i don't know this whole like oh they'd rather come

07:42:57.900 across a bear over a man i don't know i've like have y'all seen a spider it was a wild freak out

07:43:04.300 over a spider okay so i watched faces of death because like my well my mom was in the police

07:43:08.620 department and they had to watch this movie called faces of death my mom had us watch it me and my

07:43:12.540 sister and the bear just whacked the guy's head off and it was real but the thing is is it was so

07:43:16.780 quick and pain like it was probably painful but it was so quick that you know if if a bear got me

07:43:22.380 that would probably happen wait can you repeat the following it it was called faces of death no

07:43:27.900 no uh repeat repeat this this one time at band camp this one time we watch no no say like you're

07:43:36.780 this one time at band camp this one time we watched this movie oh no don't oh at band camp

07:43:42.700 okay this is one this one time at band camp we watched this movie american pie american

07:43:47.500 yeah all right wait so going to you uh let's see here caitlin you said bear why um i asked my dad

07:43:55.820 this because i honestly could not choose um simply because a man can hurt me in the exact um in a

07:44:02.140 man can hurt me worse than a bear can and yeah sure no like what they could do to me yeah they could

07:44:08.460 essay yes that's way more terrifying than me having scars and bloodiness and stuff but if it was a group

07:44:14.940 of men i would trust that the other men would protect me that's why i would choose a group of

07:44:17.820 men yeah what so you're doing a risk assessment what's the uh percentage risk of a man a random

07:44:23.580 man doing that oh absolutely very low i know that i know it but you wouldn't just to be clear so okay

07:44:28.380 you wouldn't risk that that low risk over what i think many people would say is like a higher risk

07:44:35.500 of a bear attacking you um actually bears don't attack often uh you just yell at them and they kind

07:44:39.820 of run away i don't think that's really it depends the bear it depends the bear because they say

07:44:43.420 so in california this was a couple months ago a woman was cared killed by a black bear which is

07:44:50.460 the one that's oh the black bears you just make yourselves big and they go away so i mean

07:44:55.340 any bear can kill you experiences with bears have been positive how many experiences with bears have

07:44:59.900 you had i've been to alaska so a lot from there um they you just honk the horn and they go away and

07:45:04.380 then i tried okay i i tried to pet a bear but my sister locked me in the car and then a bear bribed

07:45:09.980 my dog to stop barking at him with a deer leg yeah i ain't gonna lie i've encountered bears and

07:45:14.780 even though i would rather encounter encounter a man the bears weren't more that bad they just kind

07:45:19.260 of went away what are all these bear encounters okay there's a place called bear azona in arizona

07:45:25.340 that it's like a free it's a free-for-all walk and you can see bison and you can see bears and you

07:45:30.060 can walk around them yes you have to sign a like a waiver but it's still crazy but imagine how many

07:45:35.340 it's still so cool it's a good experience imagine how many people those animals see every single

07:45:40.140 day though like that's the difference is that you two you walk past a random bear in the wild you

07:45:46.940 don't you don't i mean it's it's but the one time i did walk by one in the wild it didn't really do

07:45:51.580 anything to me either yeah and i was in lewiston answer i was in the potential like bears okay how

07:45:57.580 about this would you rather walk up to a random bear and pat the random bear on the head or walk up to

07:46:03.020 a random man and pat the random man on but i think the question is the fact that you know you

07:46:07.180 shouldn't pet a bear anyway if i and a man yeah you shouldn't you don't know either yeah but that's

07:46:12.140 exactly what i'm saying but like you don't know the man if i walked up to a random dude and started

07:46:16.220 petting him he would fight you you know what honestly i think the chances are pretty good

07:46:21.260 like random so yes yeah i could do that and there could be a some men that would just depends on

07:46:26.860 the man but it depends on the man i would rather do that because i know like most men are just

07:46:31.020 gonna be like like they're gonna look at me like the fuck are you doing but i think most men are

07:46:35.980 just gonna let me do it and they're gonna be give me a really weird look and be like what the

07:46:40.060 fuck yeah i don't think they're gonna like most men are not gonna fight me yeah and then i could

07:46:44.380 just play that off with some comedy like oh fuck i'm sorry but what if you get those weird like

07:46:48.380 ignorant men that are like why do you touch me you know like here's some money if he wants to fight

07:46:53.500 yeah but like okay uh final final thing here writer these are your notes and then we're wrapping

07:46:59.820 uh you said there's only three of them women do not have equal rights to men in the usa what do you

07:47:06.540 what do you mean by this so you agree with that statement what do you uh mean i guess yeah like we

07:47:12.540 just like we don't we don't have equal rights and that's why there's some women that are fighting

07:47:17.260 for i guess equality but i mean it doesn't matter about my viewpoint on equal rights or anything

07:47:22.460 but it's just the point of yeah i mean i'm that's why i didn't circle that women are oppressed because

07:47:26.860 we're not oppressed

07:47:31.660 there you have to be grateful because i mean like we said we were not going straight to the army

07:47:36.380 we're not and it's yeah it's cool to not have the same rights sometimes yeah but you said women

07:47:41.500 don't have equal rights so what rights do men have that women don't they they go to the war you just

07:47:46.860 said equal it doesn't matter bad or good they go to war wait hold on so the question was women

07:47:53.180 don't have equal rights so uh men can be drafted women can't yeah what else okay men can be okay

07:47:59.580 like the whole pay thing pay gap yeah okay whatever i mean i guess that's a con one instead of a pro one

07:48:05.100 for me um but like yeah just like there's just different things of equal rights the whole thing of

07:48:09.900 like our reproduction tell me that yeah like the reproduction like abortion yeah okay no not even

07:48:14.780 an abortion like maternity leave compared to paternity leave like paternity leave like you're

07:48:19.820 not even carrying the baby yes i understand you had to be you had you have to be there as a present

07:48:24.540 father which is good but it's also one of those things of like you didn't physically go through

07:48:30.220 the nine months paternity leave is typically shorter yeah but still like but that's what i'm saying they

07:48:35.340 don't allow it for the nine months that i was pregnant you're not going to give me okay sure

07:48:39.660 three oh it's fine it's fine it's fine next one what was the next one uh okay next yeah what are the

07:48:47.820 other rights that uh women don't have uh i don't know just things like that but like i'm saying so

07:48:53.180 draft uh better good regardless wage draft wage gap abortion paternity like more maternal leave stuff

07:49:00.940 like that men get paternity how would men getting paternity leave they just do yeah but why but

07:49:07.500 you're saying women don't have equal rights to men if women have maternity leave and they happen

07:49:12.460 like lydia said happen to have get more of a leave than when not typically all the time though almost

07:49:19.500 always yeah but there's never a case where a guy will get more yeah leave at a company than no no

07:49:25.020 no i'm not talking about that i'm talking about the fact that that it's not as much it's they even though

07:49:29.980 they get it it's not as long as you should be in there for the child's life and it sucks because

07:49:34.380 a worker you could tell your worker and you could be like hey i just had a baby and they're gonna be

07:49:39.180 like okay well i expect you back in five months when you're like i want to be there for the first kind

07:49:43.660 of ten years but my job's not going to be promised to me when i so yeah so that's what i'm saying good

07:49:49.740 or bad we don't have the same rights that's why i didn't put women are oppressed because we're not

07:49:53.260 oppressed to be clear are you saying that women have more rights than men no not because this would be an

07:49:58.380 argument that men that's what i'm saying it's a pro con list of like we just it's not the same

07:50:03.180 rights they're not equal they're not the same equal means the same and that's it but typically like the

07:50:08.380 the context and the phrasing here would indicate women do not have equal rights to men would indicate

07:50:12.620 like okay what rights do women not have but that's how you're taking it the question was okay so but so

07:50:17.740 you're saying but the question was literal oh that's what i'm saying i think i yeah i think i'm

07:50:22.300 understanding what you're saying so women get more uh maternity leave and you think that that's

07:50:28.140 like a detriment to men yeah i guess not not a detriment but it's just the fact of like it's

07:50:33.900 unfair who's it unfair to men or women it's unfair to both cases actually to be honest because a man

07:50:40.460 should be there for his kids after because you want a present father but yes you do want the

07:50:45.260 hard-working men i see what you're saying but that's what i'm saying and then but the women went

07:50:48.300 through okay yeah you said the draft so is that yeah it's just not the same equal right you said

07:50:53.260 equal right and we're not going to go to the front of the line exactly so that's what i'm saying that's

07:50:57.820 why i didn't circle women are oppressed because i don't believe that i just believe that we don't

07:51:01.660 have the same rights and equal means the same okay so you're saying that are good so men don't have

07:51:06.860 as many rights as women then uh no i didn't say that i just said they weren't equal do men have more

07:51:12.140 right i i mean i didn't decide to go down the whole list i just knew i just knew out of the four i was

07:51:18.140 like they're not equal i'm asking you a new question do men not have as many rights as women

07:51:25.500 no i think uh do men have more rights than women i think they set the system up because

07:51:30.300 obviously when they made this system like whenever you know which which the founding fathers like

07:51:34.620 how we were talking about when they when they set up the system for like the draft um not letting

07:51:39.820 women vote everything they set that system up so that was what i'm saying and then women got it

07:51:44.860 throughout later so that's what i'm saying doesn't matter when it came doesn't matter what

07:51:48.540 like how it happened but they just weren't equal like the mal rushmore president yeah yeah that's

07:51:53.740 what i'm saying i don't believe women are oppressed no but like that's what i'm saying we just don't

07:51:57.500 have equal rights bad or good like whether the whether the right benefits women or does not benefit

07:52:03.420 women they're just not equal so men don't have the same rights as so okay when it comes to the draft

07:52:09.900 are you what do you are you wanting women to be drafted no so is it what the heck no but are you

07:52:17.020 arguing that but if there's some women out there that will argue i'll explain it so are you saying

07:52:22.460 that it's a it's like a lack of rights that women aren't drafted like is that what you're arguing yeah i

07:52:32.460 guess lack of rights like because isn't the privilege that like that's yeah that's what i'm saying

07:52:36.460 it's a privilege it's a it's a good reason yeah yeah yeah it is but that's what i'm saying but

07:52:40.860 it's also the same it's not the same right as a man it's not a right though it's it's yeah i guess

07:52:45.820 but right but you put all rights like yeah but it's not a right you i if it was a right wouldn't

07:52:52.300 i have the choice to refuse to be drafted so it's a duty yeah yeah it's not a right like a right

07:52:58.620 can't be added to your argument it's what he said because it's not included in rights yeah but

07:53:04.060 yeah rights don't even exist but yeah exactly in general uh okay i all right you said that

07:53:11.820 male privilege exists yeah and you also you said men are more privileged in society than women

07:53:18.700 yeah because just like the whole thing about like how you said exactly it would take a lot for a man

07:53:23.580 to be a slut like it would take a lot just because the way that society views women and they believe

07:53:28.940 just the societal norms of just being like that and that's it like so i mean so men can be like

07:53:36.540 okay no no no it's not but they could get away with more things just because of the way men have

07:53:43.180 to go to war and die yeah but they can also be sluts so like yeah balance is out no it doesn't balance

07:53:48.460 out nobody should go to war and die like that's what i'm saying but the way when they set the system

07:53:53.100 up to be like we gotta send the highest people out on the front of the line yeah they don't smoke

07:53:58.460 weed typically and when they go oh well that's not what i meant i was talking about like highest

07:54:02.140 ranking like on the asbap test on stuff like that when you get into the military like were you in

07:54:06.540 the military no well i mean i took the asbap but they said i couldn't go because i was the only

07:54:10.300 woman like child so they literally told me no like so so i could have pursued the military instead of

07:54:16.540 going to college but since um i mean this but i i don't i kind of reject this idea that like oh men

07:54:21.820 set that system up like what does that i don't think it really has to do with men because

07:54:26.300 ultimately it was like point zero zero zero zero zero one percent of people who had the power to

07:54:31.340 well they were the only ones that were able to vote and make the no actually the for the vast

07:54:35.580 majority of human history neither men or women could vote yeah it's but they were able to propose

07:54:41.740 it like john hancock benjamin they were the only ones that were able to propose a hundred years ago

07:54:46.620 yeah but that's what i'm saying that's how they set the system up around their queens and monarchs

07:54:50.460 and that sort of thing and actually if there's when it comes to warfare queens were much more likely

07:54:55.500 to uh go to war than kings there was a study on this queens were much more likely to go to war

07:55:03.180 than their male counterparts

07:55:06.300 so this idea that oh if we lived in a matriarchy where we lived with like female rulers there would

07:55:10.460 be less war or no war actually history seems to dictate that it's actually not the case women were

07:55:16.540 more likely to initiate wars than men were

07:55:23.100 so um okay okay all right i mean in any case it's not clear to me so okay here's my argument here

07:55:30.780 you're saying men are more privileged in society than women yeah yeah but i think you have to and

07:55:37.020 so i guess i would be willing to grant that male privileges exist yeah i think female privileges also

07:55:44.460 oh yeah yeah yeah females can get away with more things ever yeah of course i believe the ultimate

07:55:49.580 minority is the individual and so when you talk about privilege you need to look at the totality of

07:55:55.900 somebody stop guys you need a you need to look at the totality of somebody's circumstances so for

07:56:02.140 example like let's say there's um let's say there's a given male privilege right and this male privilege is

07:56:10.060 let's say it was in the 1914 and he had the right to vote right uh but then okay this male privilege exists

07:56:21.500 or i mean how about this let me do a different example can you just tell me some male privileges

07:56:28.140 no actually i can't wow no yeah don't i can't i can't think right now already i'm like i'm gonna be honest i'm just starting to like check out so i'm trying to think as much as i can

07:56:38.060 that's fine so yeah yeah anything can you give me one uh male privileges i would just basically say

07:56:43.020 like um they were able to like rent a car and they were able to create debt and yeah stuff like that

07:56:48.940 they were able to get credit cards and yeah and that's yeah just stuff like little things like that

07:56:53.260 but like i'm saying not to say i believe that women should not have credit cards because i i believe from

07:57:01.420 from my personal experience we should stick to debit you should stick to debit yeah i should stick to debit

07:57:07.580 definitely i mean i'm fine with the credit but um look i guess my ultimate point here on this is that

07:57:14.460 i think you have to look at the individual level to determine if there if this privilege is even

07:57:19.580 helpful for example like if male privilege is blanket and all males have male privilege like i don't think

07:57:26.220 we would say that in totality a individual is privileged if the following uh they have it's a

07:57:34.780 three-year-old with cancer but he's male sorry like i don't think in totality we would ever say that

07:57:39.900 a three-year-old who has terminal cancer and is going to die in three months has privilege despite

07:57:44.860 them being male yeah yeah yeah like what privilege does that male have but that's personal over a

07:57:50.540 three-year-old girl who doesn't have terminal cancer i would say like okay so yeah but that's an

07:57:55.580 that's an extreme like right but you have to look at totalities of circumstances before we can like

07:58:01.740 but as a whole privilege like okay so if there's male privilege but what about the totality

07:58:07.180 of the individual circumstances of someone's given life yeah so like for example i'm male but like

07:58:14.140 i have chronic pain issues and so like i would happily trade my supposed male privilege for like

07:58:19.980 a better back for for female i'll trade my superior male privileges for female privileges if my like

07:58:28.540 i could be able-bodied or i could not have like but i mean debilitating pain a lot of people right

07:58:33.740 yeah what i'm saying is is this idea and well men are much more likely to suffer from like chronic pain

07:58:38.860 and this thing and have like injuries because they are typically employed they do yeah in blue collar

07:58:44.380 fields yeah laborious jobs where they're more likely to be injured and so for this and they're more

07:58:49.660 likely to be injured on the job they're more likely to die on the job and so for this reason

07:58:53.980 and they do rigors but yeah i would absolutely if i could get rid of my chronic pain yeah give me a

07:58:58.940 i'll take a period yeah give me a fucking give me menstruation as a dude i'll pee blood out of my

07:59:06.060 if my don't pee blood i hope you know it comes from you know i'm like i hope you know he would get

07:59:11.260 cramps those are bad there's only men only have a urethra so yeah yeah so it would come out it would

07:59:16.380 kind of be there's a machine that you can put that gives guys cramps yeah okay you should

07:59:22.700 definitely try that the cramp machine oh like comparison to pregnancy here's the thing though

07:59:27.500 i think uh on that uh men get kidney stones yeah but so do women women also get kidneys but women

07:59:35.260 have reported women who have had kidney stones report that it's worse than pregnancy pain and i think

07:59:41.100 there's like physiological differences between men and women when it comes to kidney stones and the pain

07:59:45.900 associated with it because it i i mean i don't know if there's different i don't know whatever

07:59:49.580 in any case um this idea that like pregnancy pain is the worst thing ever but like men get the kidney

07:59:54.700 stones also though you have to remember that your body releases hormones that makes make you forget

08:00:00.140 the pain of childbirth so yeah female privilege yeah female privilege ridiculous okay we have a chat

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Whatever Podcast - April 14, 2025

Andrew Wilson CLASHES With Boss Babe Conservative Feminist Girls？! HEATED Debate! ｜ Dating Talk #238

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