Whatever Podcast - RAGEQUIT KEEKO Returns! She Has 3 Baby Daddies？!

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00:02:50.940 tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hi my name is kiko um i'm 23 and i'm a bartender

00:02:57.300 hi my name is jenna i'm 36 and i'm a gas station clerk slash only fans content creator

00:03:05.880 did you sorry did you say age 36 oh 36 okay hi my name is mia lynn i'm 26 years old and in the interim

00:03:15.080 of getting my phd in psychology i've started a male dating advice platform called men ask mia

00:03:21.580 hi my name is madison i'm 18 i'm a student at santa barbara city college studying econ and accounting

00:03:29.740 i work on the whatever podcast and i'm a host at a bar chat were you able to hear um madison

00:03:39.720 well enough okay what about you i'm nicole from california i'm 39 and i'm an investor

00:03:46.180 you invest in what stock market and as of two days ago real estate stocks do you have a did you ever

00:03:57.300 have a normal person job i worked in fashion for a lot of years yeah i don't know if it was a

00:04:04.080 normal person job but i traveled a lot and worked in fashion and then i left that were you a fashion

00:04:09.560 designer were you i was a trend forecaster so yeah so i would decide what everyone likes before they

00:04:15.720 know they like it and we would push it out and then you chums would buy it not me i don't buy that

00:04:21.440 you're stuck in your flannel we know you don't shop right let's fucking go stuck in the 90s okay

00:04:28.520 hi my name is michaela i am 22 and i'm from mobile alabama i currently go to the university of south

00:04:37.120 alabama studying in recreational therapy the university of south alabama you said

00:04:42.320 usa okay is it what's the uh the uh how many how many students are there it's a big campus um i

00:04:50.460 couldn't tell you 30 000 40 000 20 000 if i had to guess probably around 30 okay got it hello my name

00:04:58.820 is priya i'm 22 years old i'm from sacramento california and i co-run a family business i'm

00:05:04.600 a full-time student at asu and um i'm a athlete

00:05:09.340 you play batman or what do you she's a horse girl horse is equestrian okay yes sir uh billy what about

00:05:19.860 you my name is billy ray i'm 25 and what do i do yeah what do you what do i do i make uh men's

00:05:29.280 self-improvement slash dating content and i'm dan i go by dm dating on the interwebs uh i am in sales

00:05:42.300 and also am a dating expert and attraction coach rock and roll oh yeah age i am 32 32 all right

00:05:50.840 welcome welcome and uh we might react to uh some of your guys's videos a little bit later on in the

00:05:57.040 show so uh let's go around the table once more so what is your current relationship status

00:06:02.680 are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married

00:06:07.060 polycule um how long have you been single if you're single and what's your longest relationship

00:06:12.080 go ahead um i'm happily in a relationship same relationship for this whole past um seven months

00:06:19.140 and my longest relationship is like two years two and a half years

00:06:24.340 how long is your current relationship in uh about seven months seven months it's going strong

00:06:32.480 it's going strong okay what about you i've been dating the same guy for about 12 months

00:06:39.480 and i would say my longest relationship would be six years on and off so you've been dating your

00:06:47.380 current boyfriend for seven months no almost a year oh excuse me year sorry got you mixed up with

00:06:52.300 and you said your longest was seven years is that six years six years but on and off so i don't

00:06:58.420 know okay um and uh i think in your pre-show notes you told us you you're your mother correct

00:07:05.840 i am okay how many kids do you have four four kids okay um same father or i have three baby daddies

00:07:15.540 three i do good times um so two from one and then one from see this is where it gets really confusing

00:07:27.040 um because i kind of just dipped out from the second guy but he knows now so it's not

00:07:34.980 oh so you originally didn't tell him right yeah so so for the longest time and there was only two

00:07:40.660 um and then i eventually told the other guy so so now there's three well there were always

00:07:46.480 three well there's always three but right like they only knew the one kid's life guys so yeah

00:07:52.180 okay so um can i ask a question on that i have a question so he so you you say you like later on

00:08:00.960 decided to tell your child's father right did the man who like the other father did he think that was

00:08:08.480 his actual child or did he know the whole time that that was somebody else's child he knew it

00:08:12.480 was somebody else's and he wanted to act as if it was his own okay as long as it made a knowledge

00:08:18.580 rule yeah um and the and the other guy knew that i was pregnant the guy who got me pregnant knew i

00:08:23.620 was pregnant and just kind of dipped out so i didn't really feel bad just let me build a timeline

00:08:27.900 here so the first guy oh god so let's talk about child number one um right child number one right

00:08:35.320 17 17 yeah was with guy number one right child number two was with guy number one again it wasn't

00:08:45.140 really ever a thing what like we were just casually dating no but i'm just okay so no he's trying to

00:08:51.040 figure out if the first baby daddy was the father of the first oh no okay so okay so the first one was

00:08:56.060 only right so one got it okay so and then number two was with number two right number three was with

00:09:03.160 number two i had two boys with my the third one so wait number three is with number three

00:09:11.060 oh no so so so first dad had first kid second second dad had the second two kids no no one one two

00:09:20.420 got it that's what we were trying to figure out so last last baby daddy had the last two kids okay so

00:09:26.600 i got it i got it hold on i'm figuring this shit out here ryan we realized you weren't a math major

00:09:35.340 first dad first kid second dad second kid third dad third and fourth kids holy fuck that's complicated

00:09:43.160 i i've been called the ultimate baby mama um this is normal where i come from so then the second and

00:09:49.600 you're from number two raised no no no ew wait where are you from oh so i was in michigan i think

00:09:53.860 number three raised number two three and four right what's that yeah which one did you raise

00:09:59.700 two three and four or number two no no no no okay that sounds horrible all right number one

00:10:05.460 yeah well no you guys i'm shortening the word right it sounded good right um well you gotta think the

00:10:10.940 when i had my first child i was 19 um so me and the father did not work out and then

00:10:16.840 um so we split up let's do the age let's do the age breakdown for the each of the kids so

00:10:21.140 second child how old were you i i had her two years after so 21 and then yeah and then with the

00:10:30.440 third guy what with the number three and four kids three and four well like i got pregnant like right

00:10:36.320 after i had my daughter i was like 22 so like four months after i got pregnant so there's only a year

00:10:41.940 between those two oh on gp upon the score panda donated 99 dollars yo thank you 17 and having

00:10:50.280 the first kid no shiz for the streets yo 17 i was 19 oh were you saying i got pregnant when i was 18

00:10:58.040 were you saying your kid was 17 i think they met they thought that you had your first kid at 17

00:11:04.120 no my my oldest is 17 i'm at 19 you had you had your first kid right so you were and so your last

00:11:11.060 kid you had when you were 23 24 24 okay so yeah okay got it um sorry are you aiming you have a new

00:11:20.440 you've been dating a guy for a year now are you aiming to have more kids or what no i'm all done

00:11:25.380 having all done i'm totally satisfied with what i'm done with the kids absolutely okay yeah so do the

00:11:31.420 three kids know their dads yes okay are they in their lives or yeah yeah so everything did one of

00:11:39.800 the i and i think i might have heard this correctly one of the dads thought one of the kids was his but

00:11:47.460 wasn't or did i mishear that no no we were trying to establish because she said that the second you

00:11:54.800 want me to explain it yeah go for it okay yeah so basically what happened was i had my first kid

00:12:00.280 okay you gotta think i was 18 i got pregnant i had when i was 19 we split up uh after that the that

00:12:06.780 father went to alaska at the time um and then i was having a cage like casual dating thing um and you

00:12:15.700 gotta think my baby at the time was a year old um and then i got pregnant again and didn't know i was

00:12:21.120 pregnant and was dating somebody new and i had to explain to them that i was pregnant and he's like

00:12:28.980 we've never had sex so how are you pregnant and i'm like obviously yeah but he he wanted to be there

00:12:38.480 so he stepped up and then you went on to have two children with him right okay oh got it so it was

00:12:44.520 the guy that you were seeing at the time that's not the father of your third and fourth child the one

00:12:50.340 that you were seeing when you found out you were pregnant with your second child

00:12:52.960 i'm sorry this is

00:12:56.100 so so you said so for your second child you didn't realize that you were pregnant for a minute and you

00:13:05.140 were dating somebody new right is that the is the person that you were dating at that time the father

00:13:09.880 of your third or fourth okay okay that was what i was trying to figure out was and he was the one

00:13:14.040 that was wanting to step up and like right but the guy who got me pregnant okay this is where

00:13:18.960 it's gonna get really complicated because it's gonna get icky um he also has i think five kids

00:13:25.040 now okay and all different moms got it okay so i'm just like yeah so i'm just like in the middle

00:13:31.060 of his situation do you get what i'm saying yeah totally you know yeah so where i come from that's

00:13:35.600 kind of normal got it i want to say it's normal that doesn't sound right but it happens yeah yeah i get

00:13:41.800 a small town you said not much to do people get bored next you said this is fairly common

00:13:53.240 where i come from where you come from in michigan correct up yeah so like how many people would you

00:14:00.360 say partake are in my situation are in this situation baby daddies oh god i a lot i couldn't

00:14:08.640 even tell you i don't think he means just multiple kids with multiple dads i think he means like that

00:14:14.280 many different kids with that many different dads who also have that many kids with different moms

00:14:18.580 oh a lot a lot so is it all just all the same people it's a group of like 20 is it a town of 10

00:14:27.880 it's a really small population like it's a really small town people have to be maybe this is where

00:14:33.900 we get the dating the like i mean it's a small town and she has hit her one of her kids his son

00:14:42.140 or father has five with five different women like the odds of dating someone you're at least related to

00:14:48.020 by like step is like it's getting higher and higher you know what i mean oh no i only have

00:14:53.600 one other move out of that town move out of that town no way to college my kids know who's on the

00:14:59.520 team so we're good you want to ask how were you how were you raised like did you were you raised

00:15:05.760 from a very similar situation no i was raised very traditionally okay so like white picket fence

00:15:11.940 one boy one girl parents together and that like still happily married like they they only ever

00:15:18.000 had children together right like no children with other right got it yeah

00:15:22.740 um

00:15:25.080 did the dads did you say that the dads have multiple

00:15:31.420 baby mamas too type situation or yeah oh hold on on gp up underscore i'm donated 99 dollars

00:15:40.520 let me interrupt for a second after hearing this novel let's hear the first thoughts from each

00:15:46.920 person in the room lol it happens it happens uh sure i guess we can go around i find it interesting

00:16:00.900 that you that this happened coming from i guess what you would describe as like a traditional nuclear

00:16:06.180 family like did you have like a really good did you have a good relationship with your parents

00:16:09.340 growing up i still do yes okay yeah i think that's i'd love to kind of like do you want to know like a

00:16:16.000 big factor of why yeah i'd love maybe i am the way i am um i'm mentally um in michigan i have a

00:16:21.680 mental illness um i'm bipolar one okay what's is anybody else here bipolar what a question

00:16:31.480 what a question what a loaded question wait but i thought you didn't you say in the previous show

00:16:37.980 kiko that you have bipolar no maybe you were just thinking that you didn't you

00:16:44.180 the internet is out to get kiko they think she's bipolar and on onlyfans

00:16:48.860 is it a different thing uh anxiety and depression is a little bit different than bipolar disorder yes

00:16:57.180 yeah oh for some reason i okay i don't know where i got that from i don't know but it's a square

00:17:03.180 rectangle wait so there's there's i don't want to blame it on that you know what i mean that seems

00:17:07.960 like a pop out but i feel like that's that is a lot of issues well yeah so there's two kinds of

00:17:13.840 bipolar right there's type one type two what what is the difference so i got like super excited when

00:17:19.320 i found out i was one right because i was like 17 when i got diagnosed and i was like oh bipolar one

00:17:23.700 that's gotta be good right number one no that's the worst you can have um oh shit yeah um so like

00:17:29.920 i can have manic episodes um it's it's awful it's like so type two is kind of more tame two is more

00:17:38.220 up down up down up down um one you're more like all the way down you know um and then don't want

00:17:45.440 to get all bad moving and then like and then i have other moments of where i'm like on cloud nine

00:17:50.660 they're like a lot a lot of artists are bipolar can i ask you a question um is it like hypomania or

00:17:57.160 mania both both so you experience like tame forms of mania and then like extreme forms right exactly

00:18:05.160 like i'm medicated now um and so i've been actually pretty healthy for the last um probably about a year

00:18:12.140 and a half i would say and really not that long to be honest with you um good for you so and just in

00:18:19.460 terms of your children like first of all how are you taking care of all of them or are you taking

00:18:25.620 care of some and fathers are taking care of others it's a group effort um i actually went to jail and

00:18:33.740 i lost um like i don't want to say i lost custody because i still have custody but like i had them

00:18:40.360 full and then it turned to like every other weekend and i don't know if you've ever tried to bond with

00:18:45.660 your child over every other weekend it doesn't really work my oldest son has always been with me

00:18:50.460 okay um just because me and his dad are like on good terms um but with the other um three i would

00:18:58.780 say we're getting there you know what i mean every year it gets a little bit better we're getting

00:19:02.860 better at co-parenting and stuff like that um how does uh you talked a little bit about the bipolar

00:19:09.820 stuff how does that manifest itself in your life is it um that's like are there certain things that

00:19:16.940 set it or you used to set it off at least oh like a trigger yeah um that's you know it's interesting

00:19:22.020 that you said that um because i really don't know what my trigger is yet which is crazy right because

00:19:25.840 i'm 36 and you'd think i would know by now but i do not know what my triggers are but so what are

00:19:30.800 the like symptoms for you is it impulse control type stuff is right i'm really impulsive

00:19:35.820 um like the biggest thing is you don't want somebody to go manic like if i go manic i mean

00:19:43.420 i think there's like you know i can fly i'm gonna jump off the roof yeah based

00:19:49.260 you know what i mean it's bad it sounds really tough you know it's just it's the reality of what

00:19:56.920 it can be i think people just think it's up down up down up down but it's it's what's the tallest

00:20:02.600 building you've ever jumped thankfully nobody's ever let me jump so i don't know maybe off of like

00:20:08.360 a small roof i think you know like if second story you survive that right oh yeah for sure

00:20:13.480 i'm sure i've fallen on trees that you know yeah

00:20:16.760 have you ever skydived no but i would love to my grandma has but so you when you're when you're in

00:20:25.900 a manic state you you want to literally jump off of buildings not not like you're just wild you're

00:20:31.660 just out there um okay you just and it's like you're the definition of mania is essentially like

00:20:40.320 eccentric behaviors that aren't defined by your norms so like gambling uh being sexually promiscuous

00:20:46.300 spending lots of money um things like that things that can like self-sabotage or damage your life in

00:20:52.100 some way can dogs be bipolar you know what dogs yeah because my dog used to like try to hump

00:20:58.840 everything and then have periods of depression wait wait would your dog have like periods of

00:21:05.420 depression or something oh he's just horny he's just horny then he's just like trying to hump

00:21:09.840 inanimate objects too like fucking fire hydrants and shit so yes your dog yo chat was my dog

00:21:16.180 bipolar um okay so um the original soup chat was hey uh what's what's everyone's first reaction

00:21:25.900 i i don't want to linger on it too long just so we can move on but uh billy ray any i was just

00:21:32.360 thinking about the child support must it's significant yeah well but what if they're like

00:21:38.700 i mean are they doing okay financially the well the great news is my son actually works at mcdonald's

00:21:46.160 makes as much money as i do he's 17 right he's a hard worker um and my daughter she actually

00:21:52.720 probably makes more money than her dad does um babysitting okay um and then my two youngest boys

00:21:59.580 they're still pretty young yet you know what i mean um so they're they're just starting out but

00:22:03.980 one's trying to work at domino's and i mean they're all good kids like i got really lucky i'm the only

00:22:09.080 mess okay good times good times wow uh did anyone else have a thought otherwise we'll move um that's a

00:22:18.580 that's a very complex situation to be in and what i think of when i first hear that is just like

00:22:24.440 all of the emotions and how the kids are impacted by that and how they feel about it and what you've

00:22:30.480 gone through etc etc it's a very complicated situation oh um hold on we got kiko roast enjoy a

00:22:38.060 donated 100 to kiko discount ariana grande what's it like being the least popular girl at the order

00:22:45.980 oh my god just joshing you i love you you should team up with brian to start an off you could make

00:22:52.720 two hundred dollars per month easily i kid i kid your boyfriend is a saint proverbs 21 19

00:23:01.020 kiko any any thoughts um your response

00:23:05.400 thank you for your comment um that was a lot to unpack

00:23:14.620 um only thing i can take away from that is i will never be starting an only fans um

00:23:21.700 no hate towards it but that's just not um never never no and i've never part took in an orgy so

00:23:30.680 i don't know how that feels how did it feel for you okay there you have it um do you mind me asking

00:23:39.240 you a question and you can of course not you don't have to answer it at all are there any specific

00:23:44.260 things that stick out in your head that maybe your bipolar has affected the way that you parent your

00:23:49.340 children um i mean obviously the biggest thing is um just not being able to be there for them right

00:23:56.640 um being in and out of jail is you know that's devastating for a child um i think that's the

00:24:05.160 biggest thing you know what i mean i'm really lucky that my kids love me you know what i mean like

00:24:09.420 genuinely because like i meet a lot of people that do not have the bond that i have with my children

00:24:15.400 yeah you know what i mean um are all your children are they located close to you i know you said that

00:24:20.660 you have them or most of them part-time so yeah my my daughter's the farthest one away and she's

00:24:25.500 only 40 minutes okay not bad at all so yeah all right let's keep it moving um relationship status

00:24:32.040 situations i really don't know how to follow that one up but i did get roasted last time for say that

00:24:37.240 for saying that i was dating talking to courting whatever two two different men

00:24:43.480 non-sexually okay um

00:24:48.900 so you're not single but dating two men yes okay yes but not intimate yeah sure we talked about that

00:24:59.780 last stream but you're not sleeping with either of them allegedly allegedly not until there's a

00:25:06.320 commitment but they can sleep with other women if they'd like are there any other men in the

00:25:11.220 picture no none none you're not are you on any dating apps or no i don't do that stuff you don't

00:25:16.740 do dating apps okay um longest relationship three and a half years and almost four and we lived

00:25:22.880 together it was a monogamous relationship closed on both ends okay ended about it almost two years ago

00:25:28.080 are you dating um someone here while you were in california like someone in phoenix

00:25:35.480 that came to california yeah okay no because you you you've been in california for like a week right

00:25:41.420 no fleeing type situation or anything i don't do that no okay madison what about you i am taken i'm in a

00:25:49.080 very committed relationship um then my current relationship is my longest it's almost 11 months

00:25:56.700 in like five days or something like that all right did you guys have a question for mia it looked like you

00:26:01.960 maybe had something on the two well just in so you say you're courting two men it's it's difficult

00:26:11.040 to do the labels because like if you say you're talking that can mean that you're sleeping with

00:26:15.600 them i say courting because that that implies that like you're just talking do those men know that

00:26:21.780 you're seeing yes multiple yes they've actually both preferred that like they date other people and

00:26:27.780 that i have the option to date other people as well until there's a finalized commitment okay

00:26:32.760 and how do you think how do you think that they actually view this like if they're they're allowed

00:26:38.820 to they're allowed to sleep with other people they're not getting anything from you sexually

00:26:44.220 but you guys are dating yeah well one of them one of them is completely abstinent we met at mass

00:26:53.300 so the other one is a little bit older about 10 to 15 years older than me and um he just

00:26:59.540 got divorced like a year ago so he's just taking it very very slow essentially okay now the guy who's

00:27:07.060 abstinent that is that that's a religious choice he doesn't want to have sex until he's married yes

00:27:11.100 yes okay um do you mind if i ask are you a virgin no i'm not you're not okay i'm not i grew up

00:27:16.600 christian though like protestant suburbs like white picket fence like she said the whole shebang

00:27:21.680 now the guy who's abstinent i i mean

00:27:26.300 it's very odd like to like to know that you're just head to head with another guy the divorcee

00:27:33.960 i can see him being like like kind of no offense i can see him kind of shrugging it off being like

00:27:40.340 all right i'm out of a marriage and now i'm dating all right you want to see another guy that's how i

00:27:43.260 see it but a guy who's looking at you is potentially the girl who's going to take his virginity

00:27:47.140 who's going to who he's going to dedicate his life to has he been like very open and honest

00:27:52.340 with you about like how he feels and what has he actually told you yeah um oh god i don't know if

00:27:57.200 i'm allowed to say that because our conversations are so private um but we've had in-depth conversations

00:28:02.400 about sexuality the church what that means what i want what he wants where we'd be going how we

00:28:09.380 should take it slow etc etc i get what you're saying about the divorcee and i think you're spot on

00:28:14.480 about that one um in terms of finding someone that's going to want like a long-term commitment

00:28:18.720 for me like a guy that's abstinent from church uh dating a girl who had a little bit of a wild

00:28:26.660 phase in the beginning of college and then simmered down a bit um i totally understand that but you

00:28:31.960 know you know a lot of catholics practice forgiveness and understanding are you gonna have

00:28:35.780 a problem if you have to wait till marriage if you decide to settle down with this man no no no

00:28:39.480 i've made that promise yeah and what is it about him so you said you already have your doubts a

00:28:45.920 little bit about the divorcee and what his intentions are so what's keeping you from just

00:28:50.280 deciding on i feel like i'm putting you on the spot but what's keeping you from just saying oh like

00:28:56.900 this is the guy who's going to commit to me long term i love him it's awesome and like like what's

00:29:01.080 keeping you from just saying um sorry are you talking about can you phrase the question are you

00:29:04.440 talking about the abstinent guy what's keeping you from just saying can i say the truth sure i would

00:29:09.300 100 if he asked me to be his girlfriend right now i would 100 say yes it's because he wants to

00:29:14.440 date other people so i just like so he also wants to date other people yes okay wait and this is the

00:29:20.160 guy that's waiting for marriage yes yeah and he's catholic yeah yeah so i mean he's a catholic in new

00:29:25.500 york city they like to get girls numbers they like to flirt but then they don't take it further than

00:29:29.000 that how long have you been dating him i guess that's fair about a few weeks oh so it's a super early

00:29:33.700 on yeah it's new got it i do have a question for you sure uh you had said that you made a promise

00:29:39.280 does that mean like you're waiting till marriage as well or so yeah um i mean if we're gonna get

00:29:44.540 into it uh i i grew up protestant and uh when i went off to college from like about 18 to 20 years

00:29:50.840 old is when i believe that postmodern feminism like on twitter like really indoctrinated me i wasn't

00:29:57.020 taught anything about sex it was like spread your legs act like a man and just give it out to anybody and

00:30:02.720 that's it and um i learned the hard way that that is no way to live at all so yes i did make a promise

00:30:11.020 to myself to the church to god that i would not have sex on the first date second date third date

00:30:17.380 fourth date fifth date whatever stop the cap brian are you kidding me i literally lay everything out

00:30:23.120 here come on come on that's come on no come on this notorious like you can't be like a like a 304 and

00:30:30.740 then like come back to your traditional beginnings is just bs come on i think it's you can thank you

00:30:36.760 so much thank you so much you can you can i just don't buy it i just don't buy it okay well why

00:30:42.100 isn't that why don't you buy it yeah i mean well yeah you're having a double standard i love chase

00:30:47.540 i'm just saying the women at the way he stopped after eight no no i'm saying it absolutely happens

00:30:51.900 like and you hear about all the time that that is quite i suppose literally what someone who's a

00:30:56.380 born-again virgin is they've had sex in the past and now they're changing their standard and they're

00:31:02.880 going to be waiting until marriage but you can understand that you know because you are dating a

00:31:07.840 guy it sounds like this the other guy who you're dating the divorcee there's no is he also religious

00:31:16.000 guy who's waiting until marriage no but he understands my like my like why would a guy who's

00:31:22.060 would you tell me can i give my opinion go ahead unsolicitedly sure i tell us about the trend i think

00:31:30.520 drop the older divorcee be committed to the good man who's catholic who's abstinent because he will

00:31:40.840 be a good man to you and for you and will help you in this the other one i mean if you're serious

00:31:48.080 about going back to the church and waiting for marriage and you truly have this good catholic

00:31:54.180 abstinent let's not why why not go into why not drop the other guy because because i'm not going

00:32:00.320 to sit here and pretend that i'm like some good catholic girl no no catholic no like you know what

00:32:04.960 i mean like my devotion is not but you can get a good man and the good man can help you become a

00:32:09.440 better one thousand percent but if that man that i'm attracted to at mass is saying hey i would like to

00:32:14.420 court and date other people before we make a commitment i'm gonna respect that and if it's

00:32:18.980 somebody that i like i'm gonna respect that and i'm also okay with um polygynous relationships and

00:32:25.460 which is closed on my end and open on the other so i'm not one for conventional okay so you're

00:32:30.300 relationships i'm not trying to promote traditionalism i'm just trying to say what

00:32:33.640 works best for me my neurochemistry my body and my brain okay so you're open to polygamy

00:32:38.620 no polygyny oh polygyny which means closed on my end open on the man's end okay but if you marry

00:32:45.640 him you won't will you get married in the catholic church because they won't allow that

00:32:49.240 it depends i mean that's a whole journey ahead of me there's still time to work i just i'm just

00:32:55.840 rooting for the abstinent catholic man trust me can i ask you a question actually sure because like

00:33:03.300 i'm curious because i have a lot to learn i think i mentioned that i have like i'm starting like a

00:33:08.020 male dating advice sort of forum called men ask me right now it's free because i don't feel like

00:33:12.260 i'm educated enough on the subject to give out paid advice but i i like i said i did grow up in the

00:33:18.800 church i resented it my parents were monogamous and i did not like them that we did not have a

00:33:23.580 good relationship we do not speak so when i went off to college with no education no sexual education

00:33:28.500 well i was left to my own devices and i was in the new york new york city so i just got sucked up by

00:33:34.480 the secular world and i don't think it's that crazy that someone that grew up in the church is

00:33:39.540 coming back to the church in a different way i'm just learning how to fit it into my life into like

00:33:43.960 um a way that's not like i'm perfectly catholic and traditional now but also honest about my past

00:33:51.640 you think a guy in the catholic church like would accept that uh yes yes i think there are plenty there

00:33:58.620 are plenty of guys in the church who are not like like view me as tarnished like they're they're not

00:34:05.360 like looking that like if you were virgin great but not every guy is looking for a virgin and i've

00:34:10.540 actually i've made this point on my channel before i think in the modern dating world when people say

00:34:17.200 that body count is different for men versus women they are absolutely correct it is definitely

00:34:21.260 different for men versus women but a lot of the numbers that i hear men throw out like i think a lot

00:34:26.660 of the numbers are harsh for the exact reason that you brought up which is women your how are you 26

00:34:32.580 years old women your age and pretty much up to your age were completely indoctrinated into thinking

00:34:39.580 into having a completely diluted view of what sex actually is the men included so i it's not that i

00:34:47.000 give women a pass i think that they still need to be accountable and i still think that what you're

00:34:51.460 doing right now this whole like kind of born again i'm going to save my body for the man who i want

00:34:55.340 to dedicate my life to i think that's great i think there are plenty of men who will see that and be

00:34:59.160 like good enough like more than good enough that's great i know i just don't like the concept of being

00:35:03.420 tarnished i don't like that but but but look just because you see that word used in comments does not

00:35:11.260 mean that men will look at you as it does not mean that a lot of men are going to look at you as just a

00:35:17.700 completely used up asset like there are there are certain types of women who completely take pride

00:35:26.820 in how sexualized they are who take pride in how many bodies they rack up there are women who think

00:35:32.980 oh my god like i'm really behind when they hear their friend's body counts that's that's what i used

00:35:38.140 to think that's horrible that's what i used to think and i think that a lot of the stuff that i talk

00:35:42.420 about and a lot of the stuff that we talk about it's really because we don't want to be raising kids

00:35:47.320 in a generation where a lot of the stuff that has become normalized is normalized i know i don't want

00:35:51.800 my daughter growing up thinking like only fans is a good is a good option neither do i career i don't

00:35:56.180 want my daughter growing up in a world where she thinks that she needs to use sex to make a man love

00:36:01.980 her i don't want my son growing up in a world where he's exclusively objectifying women and we can i know

00:36:08.780 you're a psych a psych girl we can get into the psychology and hormones and all that stuff at a

00:36:12.740 certain point later but no i i do think that she's spot on and the other thing that i would ask you is

00:36:19.440 why won't you ask for the relationship this is something that women women always want men to make

00:36:24.880 the first move but what about this move to be honest um i'm a little scared okay i'm a little scared

00:36:31.300 so intimidated question for well i know brian's opinion on this but question about your opinion on this

00:36:37.720 i think that a lot of the times men want the women to ask do you really i think the women should ask

00:36:46.260 well i'm not saying necessarily that they should ask but i think a lot of the times men want the

00:36:52.240 woman to ask how can once you get to a certain point everything is nuanced um myron fresh and fit

00:36:58.520 spells this out pretty well men are working from a deficit essentially so in order for because you guys

00:37:06.840 have so many options relative to the options that most men have it's a very small subset of men that

00:37:13.720 have the abundance that allows them to be truly truly like picky right women for the most part a lot

00:37:21.860 of men are objectifying them check your dms check your comments check your check your email her email

00:37:26.860 she gets marriage proposals every day okay like but like because you're working from a deficit in

00:37:33.520 terms of what you have to do in order to get that abundance you want the girl to almost be bought in

00:37:39.560 a little bit more because it's going to be to balance out that power because you're going to want to stay

00:37:44.060 more than her because you don't want to have to go back and have to put in all that work again to

00:37:49.300 attract someone you don't have to put in the same amount of work just to get through the attraction

00:37:53.140 that's why i call myself an attraction coach men need help attracting women women need help retaining

00:37:57.580 men absolutely women need relationship advice men need attraction um i do think there are there

00:38:04.060 are different options though like for instance me and her we we had like like the most basic on off

00:38:10.160 relationship in the sense that like we dated for a brief period of time we ended up breaking up for

00:38:14.880 logistical reasons and then like less than a year later through a weird sequence of events we ended up

00:38:19.680 getting back together um i was the one who had broken up with her and what just lay it out there

00:38:26.960 well well just throw her under the belt well well the the reason well well the reason why i say that

00:38:34.540 is because at that point it's going to be really difficult for me to expect her to ask me for a

00:38:42.240 relationship when i've left it before sure so like i basically i didn't ask her for the relationship

00:38:48.380 i basically told her i was like hey i know you're falling in love with me i'm falling in love with

00:38:51.200 you too this is like like we're doing this so i didn't ask i basically told her like like we're

00:38:56.420 in a relationship now um but i but you also just you know like when you know you know like like it's

00:39:02.080 that kind of thing like at a certain point you're just like i know that i know this is exclusive i know

00:39:06.060 we're not dating different people like i want you you want me like we're doing this so yes i think

00:39:11.560 that a lot of times men wanting women to ask first makes a ton of sense because of that deficit that i

00:39:16.880 talked about and the work that men need to put in to attract the women intimidating but but but

00:39:21.760 again that's because i think women also have this weird delusion where they like being chased but they

00:39:28.280 hate the guys who are chasing them they want the thing they're chasing which is the guys who aren't

00:39:32.020 chasing them so you like this idea of a guy coming to you and asking but you don't actually want that

00:39:38.340 guy also just to add to that thing um when it comes to maybe women should be the ones asking for

00:39:47.800 the relationship do you think it's also related to women gatekeep sex but men tend to gatekeep

00:39:53.760 commitment or relationships that's what i was going to say because you said like women have an issue

00:39:58.820 retaining men like keeping them so i feel like that's the reason why a lot of women don't want to

00:40:03.940 ask a man for a relationship because if i feel like i have to ask him that puts i feel like that

00:40:10.600 puts a doubt in my mind that like does he even want to be here and especially when men are more

00:40:17.100 known to have wandering eyes and not wanting to so it's like if he wants to go see and date other

00:40:23.480 women and she's like no i want this and even if he agrees like i feel like in the back of my mind i'd

00:40:28.140 always have doubts like he's abstinence we know he's not sexually engaging them but like is he still you

00:40:32.900 know talking around dating around because if he has exactly what i meant when i said i was scared

00:40:37.820 to ask so how long ago did you guys have this conversation about having like like an open we

00:40:43.280 went to like a young adults mass sure and um we met there and we basically just laid everything out on

00:40:49.200 the table okay there was an immediate attraction but this was when you first started to talk to each

00:40:53.640 other have you had a previous conversation after that okay yeah what about you what's your relationship

00:40:59.020 status oh i'm single how long have you been single i've been single for about a year and a half

00:41:10.280 1.5 year longest relationship two years two-ish years two years okay uh so you were on our show

00:41:21.300 two weeks ago three weeks ago two or three sundays ago okay and you posted publicly on your

00:41:28.680 instagram you had actually met a guy while you were here in san barbara is that correct i did yes

00:41:33.960 the next morning after i was on your show getting roasted that i hit my wall so the day after you

00:41:40.680 were on the show you met a dude who i did and do we i don't know if we do we we got some screenshots

00:41:47.200 actually of your story that you posted uh life is wild one day you're on a podcast being told your

00:41:53.380 standards are too high because of your age and the next day a man who has every quality you mentioned

00:41:58.340 approaches you eating your burger and reading a book and asks you to come hang out with him all day

00:42:03.140 for inquiry inquiring minds 36 years old 6 3 never married no kids business owner financial planner

00:42:10.400 who has all his money ducks in a row funny kind-hearted paid for everything including the

00:42:15.360 burger i was having solo when he approached me women know your worth extending my santa barbara

00:42:22.760 vacay through wednesday i love it yeah and i think there's is there one more tab over

00:42:29.400 dressed well not in flannel

00:42:32.420 and wearing a real watch if you watch so yeah on the episode you said something about if a guy doesn't

00:42:42.780 have a watch that i don't remember exactly what you said you want me to recap the watch

00:42:47.740 yeah well okay so a couple questions here you this guy approached you um

00:42:53.380 seem what happened you're still single i am still single didn't do you gonna meet up with him while

00:43:02.240 you're here or what i'm not what happened he doesn't have the values that i want uh he's a great guy i have

00:43:10.580 nothing negative to say about him but i am catholic and uh when we got a little deeper into that i was

00:43:17.440 like no i think i think i need to actually just fully focus on a man who's religious and has faith

00:43:24.420 and he didn't but he had all of those fantastic qualities and it was nice did y'all no come on

00:43:31.900 no you didn't you know you know didn't no i'm so sorry i'm so sorry

00:43:40.980 so okay how many we just met how many days did did you well you just met i mean you're asking if i

00:43:51.060 slept with him after going out with him once that's pretty people do that fairly right that's pretty

00:43:56.160 common okay fairly common okay but no we went up with him twice in our younger generation how many

00:44:01.940 times did you meet up with um only two nights okay yeah two nights so the first well one was like

00:44:06.360 afternoon right when he approached me when i was eating my lunch and i was reading a book and he

00:44:10.360 asked what i was reading and he was very nice gentleman had a great afternoon and then we went out

00:44:15.340 to dinner the second night again great conversation um but i just through conversation learned a couple

00:44:22.600 of things that for me would be um difficult in a long-term partnership so

00:44:27.220 besides what are the couple things the religious stuff right just the religious yeah so he doesn't

00:44:36.740 you know he's i think agnostic or not really religious at all um and then just um just a couple

00:44:44.280 things about him that would just be difficult for me male stripper what no no what's the issue here

00:44:52.160 well i don't i mean you kind of you showed sort of a photo of him and so i don't want to say

00:44:56.580 anything because that's his private life and i don't feel it's mine to share publicly on your

00:45:00.520 instagram so yeah but i didn't post publicly what you're asking me so i'd like to pass on that

00:45:06.140 question can i ask a question yes of course um do you think that you can be any age and get any man

00:45:10.820 that you want no you don't think that no i don't so what do you think i think that at different

00:45:17.840 ages uh men and women can obtain different partners so for example i'm 39 so is a 25 year

00:45:28.900 old man going to marry me most likely not do i want to marry a 25 year old man also no

00:45:34.640 hold on just a sec thank you 100 hey brian i experienced a not so great situation with

00:45:43.520 someone i worked with who lied about her intentions and caused emotional trauma a couple of years back

00:45:49.360 flash forward to today i'm hesitate to show interests to a person that is interested in me

00:45:55.340 i worked with who lied about her intentions and caused emotional trauma so are you like did you get

00:46:02.660 me too'd prometheus uh if you did sorry to hear that um it sounded like you had something you

00:46:09.520 wanted to it honestly i mean yeah it's a little vague but i take away from that that uh that abuse

00:46:17.260 goes both ways that it can traumatize both men and women sounds like he's super scared to even

00:46:23.360 approach girls if i'm reading that correctly definitely afraid even if he gets on a date to

00:46:28.180 share his true intentions or get into something because he's afraid he's going to get his heart broken

00:46:31.000 that's what i took away yeah he says he's hesitant to show interest in a person that is interested

00:46:37.400 in me because he thinks he's going to get tricked tricked into what trick what i i didn't it's not

00:46:45.420 clear yeah what what happened but uh you know you could just swear off women that's an option

00:46:53.440 i'm just you know just swear i'm off you know that that's an salute that's an easy solution

00:47:01.040 it could be that's terrible live a life listen ai ai girlfriends are coming i guess that's what

00:47:08.820 you're gonna do let's not promote that let's not promote that brian i've got many arguments

00:47:14.260 i feel like brian would absolutely have an ai girlfriend and like be happy about it

00:47:19.840 perfect girl no why would i have what why would like hold on when you say an ai girlfriend

00:47:24.540 like a digital to keep me company huh no no no so brian they're creating these um essentially vr

00:47:33.340 um these ways to have like virtual reality girlfriends like that movie what was that movie

00:47:38.940 yeah um like her exactly no with joaquin phoenix yeah spike is spike jones the director it's called

00:47:46.200 her yeah yeah yeah nah that that shit would be kind of lame no but no i'm saying like what if

00:47:50.700 they do like a physical body and make it warm as like a human body's temperature there there's i'm

00:47:55.840 down see what did i say what did i say i said why not let's go for it sister wives and you could

00:48:05.120 like perform other tasks too like fucking do my laundry fuck yeah let's go okay honestly so there

00:48:12.200 are articles um that have come out recently about these ai like girlfriends or sex robots that basically

00:48:17.880 um talk about how they can give the exact same sexual pleasure um an emotional pleasure that

00:48:24.740 real people can and so there's no need for real life relationships if what you're after in a

00:48:31.580 relationship they probably can't give birth or no they absolutely can't and that's the problem

00:48:35.840 well they might be able to give pleasure but that's it a lot more to life than pleasure

00:48:41.420 well absolutely but i mean i'm i'm arguing against

00:48:45.080 being used sorry for the lack transparency she showed romantic antics only to lie about her

00:48:58.280 intentions with me this same person is causing inappropriate actions within the workplace

00:49:04.140 each woman i work with that i'm hesitant trusting oh you worked with her you work with yeah i wouldn't

00:49:10.080 absolutely not oh well you know what though i kind of disagree with that a little bit because

00:49:14.040 because that's once you're out of college like it depends on where you work right if you work at

00:49:21.200 mcdonald's and you know you could date the person but if you're like a high up it's dangerous it's

00:49:25.260 tricky for a man no but like let's say you're on there's not like uh impropriety because you're her

00:49:30.040 uh superior you're superior you're both uh on the same level let's say maybe you're in different

00:49:35.780 departments i don't think like i is it that like workplace i think it can get messy no it can get

00:49:43.020 messy because the work is the exact reason why because like obviously he works at a job that he's

00:49:47.620 not willing to leave for this reason so if you're gonna date someone at a career that you're it's a

00:49:51.960 career and not just like a part-time job for you and you're not willing to step away from that it's

00:49:57.120 you know no relationship is 100 positive to go well so okay when you start that you're willing to not

00:50:02.860 just like you're inhibiting your whole workforce by doing that so idealistically i think it's okay

00:50:09.120 to date co-workers however in this current dating landscape in the current workplace landscape i

00:50:14.860 strongly recommend against it uh especially if you're a man uh there's always exceptions to the rule

00:50:21.260 and i totally get that but i don't think it's something that should be but i in like on the most

00:50:25.500 basic level i don't object to co-workers dating each other but because of the current landscape

00:50:31.840 when it comes to the male female dynamics in the workplace strongly recommend against it but i

00:50:38.640 don't have any quarrels with it generally i live in a really small town so working with somebody and

00:50:43.780 dating you know what i mean that's really you said you're currently working at a gas station like i did

00:50:48.780 bartend oh okay with my boyfriend for several years and yeah i liked it sure so i think that there's

00:50:55.720 a different dynamic around a place like a restaurant or a bar as a workplace compared to

00:51:01.620 like a corporate job or did he say where he worked no no he said he showed it is very vague but i totally

00:51:10.960 understand what you're saying there's did he get used he said he was used i think what i think what it

00:51:15.240 was is this woman and like made her intentions seem like she was really interested in having a

00:51:21.460 relationship with this man when they really weren't and she maybe skewed the situation a bit

00:51:27.520 i i would venture a guess that maybe he was someone above her in in some sort of corporate setting and

00:51:34.260 she basically like honey potted him into like maybe getting fired or like maybe being demoted

00:51:39.680 why don't you send another tts give us some more details slowly but surely

00:51:46.740 oh fat bastard donated 100 dollars nice get in my belly i want my baby back baby back baby back baby

00:51:56.620 back baby back ribs i want my baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs chuli's baby back ribs

00:52:04.860 all right for 100 thank you fat bastard yeah right yeah you could get those ribs for like 15

00:52:10.640 at chile's probably i think i'm gonna do a dr evil impersonation the rest of the show um

00:52:17.120 um all right thank you fat bastard appreciate it okay uh so just going back to you um

00:52:25.420 you still are on the relationship status yeah i know we're still we're still on that so

00:52:30.200 uh okay you met the guy it didn't work out

00:52:35.420 you didn't smash no smash zero smash what was the thing with the watches and the flannel i think

00:52:47.940 we were going to get into that you're not a fan so i was okay are we gonna start with flannel or

00:52:52.960 watches yeah just recap okay so i said last time i was on here about watches that um when a man

00:53:00.180 shows up to a date wearing a real watch a non-i watch um i appreciate that and i think an i watch

00:53:08.740 what yeah i think an i watch can come off as a little bit rude like a phone on the table like

00:53:13.260 it's like because it's there to connect you and you keep all this stuff i also think from a style

00:53:19.080 perspective like a time piece is very personal for a man it's something that's passed down it's

00:53:24.920 something that completes an outfit and i'm not saying people like oh are you saying it's a red flag

00:53:29.860 if he's wearing an i watch no i'm not of course i'm not saying that it's perfectly fine to wear an

00:53:33.540 i watch what i'm saying is if he shows up wearing a proper time piece it's very attractive like a

00:53:38.580 woman showing up in heels sure she can show up in flats and that's cute and maybe you don't like heels

00:53:43.400 and that's fine you don't need to wear them but they boom they give you that extra little something

00:53:47.560 and people had a problem with me having this opinion about a man's watch that's it what about if

00:53:52.600 there's no watch is that a kind of a no i mean it's negative no i wouldn't say it's a negative i

00:54:00.520 would just say my first preference is that he's wearing a classic watch classic watch classic watch

00:54:06.600 it doesn't need to be expensive it doesn't need to be it's a good watch it's it's great it doesn't

00:54:12.380 need to be expensive but is that i'm not saying that it needs to be an expensive watch is that like

00:54:16.780 a 10 out of 10 watch you would appreciate that yeah i would appreciate that it doesn't need to

00:54:21.060 cost a lot of money it just needs to suit you and it's just like a little reflection it's like a

00:54:25.320 it's you know men don't have a lot of accessories like women okay he's got like shoes belt watch to

00:54:31.560 me it's like cologne yeah yeah that's what i was about to say i i don't know what got people so

00:54:36.460 upset about me talking about the watch targeted yeah it's a little specific but it's but see i but

00:54:42.940 it's an it's a little outward token that's like a reflection of something else about a man right

00:54:49.440 it's it's about the watch yes but it's just a reflection of part of his personality it tells a watch

00:54:55.640 tells a little something about a man you can deny that but it does a little bit what what does a no

00:55:02.740 no watch tell about a man he's probably unorganized and runs late and zero one i'd have to

00:55:09.840 disagree no i i very much disagree with that that's a ridiculous generalization about men

00:55:15.560 wearing watches that's ridiculous but no no watch is just neutral i watch is whatever i just

00:55:21.900 appreciate a real watch what's the flannel issue i'm actually pro i watch i love a man that cares

00:55:27.940 about his steps oh yeah okay thank you kiko i more have a problem with your current pants situation

00:55:35.240 than the plan well it's warm today it's what it's freaking 80 degrees or some shit

00:55:38.880 so why are you wearing flannel can you show your diabetic socks listen i am wearing i am role

00:55:46.160 playing today as a i'm not gonna even say it no don't say that i'm not gonna say it but i got

00:55:51.920 some tall socks on i'm not trying to like that are they compression socks brian yeah they're

00:55:56.880 compression socks it's like world's strongest do you have poor circulation it's just like you know

00:56:02.240 he's wearing some we sit for a long time so you know i need tall compression socks and these like

00:56:07.560 oversized boxers get them priya they look they look like boxers yes they look like humongous

00:56:14.840 boxers i'm wearing boxers under i believe you just gotta own it yeah oh yeah well priya let me

00:56:20.020 speak on your attire right now you were you look like you're about to go on safari first off

00:56:25.540 stand up please stand up show them this and also look at look do you see how bunched up that is

00:56:31.520 when you're sitting it looks like you have a boner this is linen you have a fabric boner

00:56:37.260 hold on hold on all right oh i work at the hospital yeah i guess it's best to keep my pen

00:56:42.760 from mixing with the company ink brian i'm pro flannel allison chains let's fucking go uh it's a

00:56:49.180 kick-ass band what allison chains what was their good well it's like rooster and then allison

00:56:56.760 chains it's like grunge early 90s mid 90s grunge um yeah thank you prometheus much appreciated yeah

00:57:02.700 pearl jam is one of my favorite bands but okay priya you literally okay

00:57:07.640 like you have too much can you can you can you stand up and show them what you're wearing

00:57:13.720 i'm not gonna stand up yeah it's about to be august in california it's fucking hot yeah you can't see

00:57:22.480 below the taste i'm wearing some shorts i'm wearing shorts so is she these are shorts

00:57:29.560 haters haters are gonna hate haters are gonna hate but um that's the wrong camera

00:57:36.080 brian i have stated my stance on your flannel so many times just don't wear it on a date

00:57:44.380 you can wear it at home i'm doubling down on you can't i'm doubling down i'm gonna wear

00:57:49.560 this on a date son i'm gonna wear my shorts i'm gonna wear my shorts this is what he wears this

00:57:55.200 and not those pants but he wears sweatpants i'd wear my sweatpants i'd wear my sweatpants

00:57:59.080 this is actually an acceptable outfit where i come from i was about to say it'd be all flannel

00:58:03.940 that's flannel yeah it really is yeah the flannel is fine i think that would be considered casually

00:58:10.160 dressy you gotta understand right california is a little it's a little more relaxed than all you

00:58:17.360 uppity uppity people you got new yorker i'm sorry how long have you lived in california

00:58:23.820 long time since i was five i was born and raised oh so and i'm telling you flannel on the date

00:58:33.520 flannel on a dinner date with sweatpants brian it's just the pants bro i don't give a fuck

00:58:38.900 are they gray sweatpants i don't give a fuck that's totally that's about it are they gray sweatpants

00:58:42.880 no they're black sweatpants are in first off i mean if they're gray hold on just a sec

00:58:47.740 thank you man your watch comment goes over the head of most young daters you are absolutely right

00:58:56.700 a nice watch reflects understanding of precision craftsmanship and reflects sophistication

00:59:02.560 stick to your guns tell you what i'll show up to a date well dressed when the majority of women

00:59:08.360 don't show up to the date with a double digit body count how about that you guys want to talk about

00:59:13.440 being a gentleman y'all stop being so promiscuous i'll show up to the date dressed to the nines

00:59:19.100 but here's the thing y'all you've got like a fucking long line of previous dicks it's miles and miles of

00:59:26.480 dicks i'm not gonna show up wearing the fucking suit on the first date i'm wearing my fucking sweatpants

00:59:33.300 i'm wearing my flannel i'm wearing my diabetic socks i don't give a fuck brian why are you going on

00:59:40.180 dates with those women then behave like the person that you want to attract what are you doing that's

00:59:44.880 what he's trying to attract somebody that's going to take care of his babies he's saying it's like

00:59:47.700 every girl that he's meeting is what he's saying hello you want a nurse brian only dresses up for

00:59:54.180 funerals we made that clear right looking for a nurse we made that clear brian dresses up for funerals

00:59:58.840 you only have a funeral suit oh no nurses what's up um do you are you on dating apps no not at all

01:00:05.200 no so how do you meet your women so i well okay let's go hold on okay first off i was banned

01:00:13.380 from tinder and hinge because i was using it to try to get guests on the show

01:00:18.640 then i got banned on hinge months ago because i was using it to get guests on the show

01:00:26.120 how did they find that out like because i the first message i would send i'd match with everybody

01:00:31.280 i'd be like hey do you want to be on my podcast and i wasn't even genuinely trying to date anybody

01:00:35.480 but listen some people think hey that's wrong a lot of women on on are on dating apps

01:00:41.420 here's my instagram here's my cash app here's my snapchat do you have a yacht

01:00:47.260 i'm the one dude who's doing the reverse finesse on the dating app so

01:00:52.480 the one the one and only

01:00:56.380 what i heard that no

01:01:00.240 well okay there's obviously other dudes finessing on there but

01:01:06.560 from the tinder swindler

01:01:07.840 yeah but see when oh yeah here's the difference though tinder swindler

01:01:13.700 he was stealing they make documentaries they make documentaries about it one dude doing this

01:01:18.480 women are doing that shit on the daily it's not one though we we brought it up on this

01:01:23.920 there's this facebook group that is common in a lot of big areas

01:01:27.220 there is multiple the same guy yeah there's a magnitude of men who and i mean hey

01:01:32.600 we should bring awareness to this actually

01:01:34.480 no we should bring more awareness to this

01:01:36.720 this like they do this on another level which is like most of the time though i'm like how can you be so

01:01:41.380 gullible like these women but like yeah there's women who will go on dates they have no intention

01:01:46.460 they get a free meal okay there are men who are scamming thousands thousands of dollars from women on

01:01:53.740 these apps not it's not as common as the reverse i mean

01:01:56.740 sure maybe not but like there's men who will be like oh like i want our date to be this concert

01:02:03.980 i get a hookup on tickets through my company yeah just send me three hundred dollars for this or

01:02:09.480 like a hotel room you have to be stupid right you have i yeah i'm not sure that that's as

01:02:13.820 but it does happen to men too who get scammed from women that way and then we say oh you have

01:02:18.840 to be smarter than that it's like they're like oh don't blame the victim but like it happens to

01:02:24.520 women all the time too so it's like it goes about frequency right it's like about which one is more

01:02:29.120 common would you expect a man to try to finesse a woman out of money which is more is a bigger deal

01:02:35.160 in a sense is it a bigger how could you assess that between genders when they're totally different

01:02:39.400 well i'm saying my reason why i'm saying it is because the one that gets brought up with most

01:02:43.180 women is the free meals a free meal okay maybe was the most expensive was you took her to a hundred

01:02:48.020 dollar steak dinner and she scammed you out of it where the other side is men scamming hundreds of

01:02:53.940 thousands of dollars i don't think that's i don't think that's it but the whole the what you just

01:02:59.200 described would require the most insane con to get her emotionally connected to you to get her to do

01:03:05.420 whereas what you said before which is the 100 steak dinner there are women who will make guys do

01:03:11.340 that 10 to 20 times never sleep with them while simultaneously sleeping with other men very true

01:03:18.020 a lot of them a lot of them so so what i'm saying is like first of all like what did we say earlier

01:03:25.220 the amount of effort that men have to put in to get women to fall in love with them to the degree that

01:03:29.020 they will just send them money for a concert like i know you guys said that they have to be super

01:03:33.180 gullible and maybe a little bit stupid but that man is like a master manipulator and there aren't

01:03:39.660 a ton of those i will agree yeah it's not a ton but i mean it's more common than you think because i

01:03:44.940 will i will be bored and scroll through i'm on multiple different ones in multiple cities and stuff

01:03:48.940 and it's it's happening a lot more than we realize because there are people we know that there's men out

01:03:57.320 there who have trouble getting dates finding um women but there's also a lot of women who struggle

01:04:02.380 immensely because of you know we say a lot of women all they are their looks or whatever so

01:04:08.460 a lot of these women are it's a lot of women who are in their 30s who are getting a little bit older

01:04:13.820 and feel like they're running out of time so they're willing to take bigger gambles when it comes to some

01:04:19.320 of these things so i mean okay i can say the same thing sob story to the men who get you know well

01:04:25.920 tricked out of a hundred dollar dinner hold on just a second sticky side down donated ninety nine

01:04:30.560 dollars my analog watch is a very important accessory it's color matched to one of my four cars

01:04:37.360 priya just said behave like the person you want to attract i'm off to go buy some safari clothes

01:04:43.360 when we grab a drink no flannel promise uh i just uh

01:04:51.760 yeah you just wrist priya priya do you accept the safari offer

01:04:58.720 um wow saved donated one hundred dollars kiko i'm gonna have to head down there and i will rain down an

01:05:08.240 ungodly fucking firestorm upon you you're gonna have to call the fucking united nations and get

01:05:13.840 a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you i am talking scorched

01:05:19.760 turf that that's from what's that movie um tropic thunder i'm not familiar so it's a copy paste

01:05:29.520 that he's not actually gonna don't worry i know i know he's not actually hold on we have a chat here

01:05:33.920 john smith hey thank you man can you ask the girls if a guy owning a gun is a positive

01:05:38.160 deal breaker or neutral ps shout out to kiko for being a good sport and coming back on the show

01:05:44.160 definitely makes the show better to have people with different opinions word yeah um okay well let

01:05:49.680 me come back to that so uh owning a gun is it positive deal breaker or neutral let me let me come back

01:05:58.400 because let's just go around and get everybody to uh reveal the relationship status we haven't even

01:06:04.400 finished it yet uh at least we know there's okay go ahead okay i am single and um my longest

01:06:14.640 relationship was two years how long have you been single since like april 1st so very beginning of

01:06:22.400 april what a joke okay um what about you priya um i'm happily married no i'm totally kidding um i'm

01:06:30.080 single oh sorry well i didn't mean to press that okay we're a little late on that one well i didn't

01:06:36.560 even mean to press that but i was gonna press that okay just all right single uh yeah single have

01:06:44.400 been so for almost a year longest relationship was five months five months and a lot of people have

01:06:50.560 been in the tts i'm assuming in the dms too i've been they seem to like you quite a bit so you've gotten

01:06:58.320 some proposals maybe not like marriage proposals but like due to wow the sky is beautiful by the way

01:07:06.960 look at the sky this guy is pretty what dms any he's asking for the tea all right the tizzle

01:07:18.240 um i'm sure there have been i haven't checked nor have i accepted anything that is a fundamental

01:07:28.240 difference between men and women the idea that you can just like sit around and wait to check your dms

01:07:34.080 because there are so many coming through so so well personally i'm i'm not truly all that interested

01:07:41.280 in meeting somebody through the internet i gotcha um i have no trouble meeting people in person if i

01:07:47.520 really want to so that's not something that i am too concerned about but i don't i don't particularly

01:07:53.200 love the idea of meeting somebody through the internet and meeting up with them for the first

01:07:56.320 time in person the dms thing is funny because even when a guy we want a girl slides into a guy's dms

01:08:02.640 she actually isn't she's really just like commenting hoping he notices her and he slides into her dms

01:08:07.120 because she was noticed what a weird freaking life i think about the dm thing though

01:08:11.520 guy still has to make the move i think about the dm thing though the average woman i mean like me i

01:08:19.360 only have like so many followers on instagram and i don't have much i don't get dms like i don't you

01:08:25.200 know define you don't get dms like how frequently do you get a dm from a guy i've gotten this year

01:08:32.080 probably one one okay and do you have a private instagram no you have a public instagram yeah i guess

01:08:39.120 they're all already hitched in alabama did you did you check your spam yeah yeah you're talking about

01:08:46.320 like the little requests i request things because you think you're not and then you hit that and

01:08:51.120 you're like oh no the only ones that like like the one that i got was like these old creepy men asking

01:08:57.040 to be sugar daddies yeah gotcha yeah that still counts nothing legit counts what what what is your

01:09:02.240 issue but those men are also scammers they're not always sugar daddies like all the time a lot of the

01:09:06.800 time they're trying to scam you it's about a hundred percent yeah yeah exactly going to

01:09:13.680 actually give you anything that happens do you mind if i ask what your instagram is like

01:09:18.880 um it's just the typical like i don't post like super glamorous photos it's just me living life

01:09:26.880 kind of posting that kind of stuff so it's like anything anything that you would consider to be

01:09:31.200 thirst trappy no anything that anybody would consider to be thirst trappy no okay i don't think

01:09:36.160 so so so so like so like no no bikinis no i have like a one piece on there wow it's the first time

01:09:43.120 i've heard that answer in a long time i actually just bought my first bikini in like three years

01:09:48.080 like well so you're interesting you're religious right yes i am yes you're catholic is it or christian

01:09:55.280 well i think catholic and christians are the same thing but like they're they're part of the same

01:09:59.040 umbrella but i'm protestant okay got it so you are hold on wait what the fuck i screwed up my notes

01:10:07.840 here uh are you waiting until marriage i am yes okay but i'm not a virgin now okay so you're like what

01:10:15.920 born again virgin yes and yeah did you have like a crazy uh no phase when you were younger or just you

01:10:23.520 got a boyfriend or i just my my boyfriend yeah your current wait well my boy or your previous past

01:10:30.320 yeah that was the limit of that so okay you you hooked up with him you guys broke up now now you're

01:10:37.840 waiting for marriage correct beaten cheeks donated 99 yo thank you cheeks appreciate it if any of you

01:10:42.720 simpi incels in here call any females on dating advice go touch grass and lose weight no real man wants

01:10:50.560 to take advice by a woman being eiffel towered and claims to be born again kind of nonsense is that

01:10:57.120 beaters fall for this notion do you guys like looking at half of kiko's face by the way it's

01:11:05.280 awesome yeah it's fine yeah there you go but then i have to like every time it goes it changes the angle

01:11:12.240 half of my head there we go that's fine it's fine you just okay all right um maybe i should try a

01:11:18.480 different seat i just learned what the eiffel tower meant i don't know what that means like i didn't

01:11:24.640 yeah see i didn't either it was super embarrassing because i was like no i gotta work at baymark tomorrow

01:11:29.680 i can't go to the eiffel tower it's not that embarrassing no uh prio it is when you're talking

01:11:34.400 about going to a gas station because you can't go to paris prio what about you and they're talking about

01:11:39.040 i answered the question oh okay uh sorry uh belly one man i am in a relationship

01:11:48.880 and my longest relationship was about four years all right and uh i am also in a relationship uh my

01:11:58.320 longest relationship was about four and a half years and if you guys do you guys are they're dating in case

01:12:05.920 anybody didn't catch that okay how long have you guys been dating what do you want to tell the full

01:12:11.600 story we've known each other for we've known each other for a little over two years we've been dating

01:12:18.480 for probably about 16 17 months at this point yeah may i ask you a couple questions sure are you are

01:12:26.080 either of you religious uh i would say that i have re-found my relationship okay yes and are you guys

01:12:34.080 chased within your relationship or do you have sex oh we have sex okay yes okay so you're you're

01:12:42.000 christian protestant uh we both have been rediscovering okay so it was like you grew up

01:12:47.840 christian went away okay and now you're rediscovering your faith went away okay i have never been consistent

01:12:55.200 with church and you guys are trying to be more consistent with church i have a follow-up question

01:12:59.600 do you think can you scoot your microphone back please and just do you guys keep okay keep going

01:13:04.560 back okay you're boxing out madison oh um do you guys think that at some point in your relationship

01:13:12.160 you may choose to stop having sex for religious reasons no no okay yeah and actually so this is

01:13:19.440 interesting so i i said i'm kind of like refinding my relationship with god i'm not a consistent church goer

01:13:26.240 i certainly have grown to believe in him again i started to read the bible a lot more um and i

01:13:32.480 certainly like to live as though god exists i am certainly not a like by the book you know doctrine

01:13:38.480 oriented christian um but the reason i bring that up is to kind of go back to what you were saying

01:13:45.040 earlier because you you said that you had this relatively strict guideline for the man that you're

01:13:52.720 going to settle down with and that he has to be a religious man right he doesn't need to be um

01:14:00.800 well we can define that more but i'm not strict about it i wouldn't mind if he's not religious but

01:14:05.680 holds a lot of the like general tenets and values that you would traditionally find in a religious

01:14:10.560 man exactly what i was about to say yeah so i wouldn't mind if he isn't sure even what he thinks

01:14:15.360 about god but a man who's not religious can also be a godly man um in on a natural level and that to me is

01:14:22.480 very attractive in terms of the morals the principles yeah morals values you know

01:14:28.480 and there are christian men who are not nearly as great as some of those non-christian men right um

01:14:35.280 so it's it's not yeah i'll pause there but i want you guys to talk but i hope you guys get married i

01:14:40.240 like you guys i think there's definitely a big difference between a man of god and people who do

01:14:46.560 claim that they're christians um because you can be a christian and not follow the book right like

01:14:54.160 me personally i feel like a man of god is somebody who does follow the book and i feel like there's

01:14:59.600 two in the dating sphere there's i've been with somebody who claims that they're a christian right

01:15:05.120 and claims that they have those values but in reality it was just to i wouldn't say bait but

01:15:12.320 like oh those guys exist yes they're called they're called nice guys yes we have a big issue with those

01:15:18.480 i do not like nice guys they're dangerous chat before you explode there's a difference between a

01:15:24.800 nice guy and a good guy at least by the way that i define it i'm not saying that if you're a good hearted

01:15:32.160 treat women kindly guy chivalrous guy that you're not doing the right it's the facade you're talking

01:15:38.000 about but there is a and we can get into this more if if we really want to but i think that

01:15:45.600 there is a certain there's a certain type of um there's a certain type of you know man who has

01:15:52.160 the ability to be hyper hyper chivalrous hyper kind very sweet very loving very caring very compassionate

01:15:58.960 very empathetic who simultaneously is not a bitch okay like he has the ability to put his foot down

01:16:05.040 he has the ability to set boundaries he has the ability to stand by those boundaries and be willing

01:16:10.000 to walk away if those boundaries are not respected that is what a good man does okay it doesn't just

01:16:15.520 because you're not a nice guy does not mean that you're a toxic individual okay there's a huge difference

01:16:19.840 between toxicity and in fact a lot of the nice guys are pretty freaking toxic because they will

01:16:25.360 literally lie to you and they're manipulative they are they are they are agreeable dishonestly

01:16:31.760 okay that's what like that's what jordan peterson would say he'd say that those guys are hyper

01:16:35.680 agreeable they don't know how to disagree or confront moralistically right loose

01:16:42.720 energy donated 99 dollars thank you annoying dollar store ariana grande would you smash the hottest

01:16:49.840 trans man in the world or the oldest man in the world hashtag ragey quit

01:16:59.440 the oldest man in the world is probably upwards of 120 at this point we've been surviving pretty

01:17:06.400 long these days especially in like eight like in asian countries so i'm i mean i'm happily in a

01:17:12.880 relationship plan to marry this man but um if i had to choose i guess i would go with the hottest

01:17:19.040 trans man in the world yeah i don't even know if the old guy could get it up anymore that's i just

01:17:23.040 feel like that's i feel like it's like it's it's not illegal but there's it should be illegal you

01:17:29.040 know what i mean like at the far end of the spectrum like that just does it like i think that might take

01:17:35.360 old man out i'd be asking questions it might be the last thing that guy's got some wealth that you're

01:17:39.600 trying to go after it might be the last thing he does so you might want to go that way i'm not

01:17:44.160 trying to kill something you know which one are you going for i said the hottest the hottest trans

01:17:52.400 man why would i i mean like yeah that's her answer versus the oldest man in the world like those people

01:18:00.000 like the oldest people living literally look like half alive mummies yeah like they basically look mummified

01:18:06.000 like that's well you're you're bi right i've been i don't know i've been but you've been you've been

01:18:12.560 with women before isn't i don't know queer no it's not because i was

01:18:19.040 but you've hooked up with women i have yeah but i haven't dated a woman since i was in high school

01:18:24.400 okay and i don't think i would i even if i was single happily single i don't think i would ever pursue

01:18:32.480 that so i don't know okay uh lp thank you very much for your tts man much appreciated um

01:18:43.120 i don't know if we have much else to say on that specific topic would you smash the hagas

01:18:48.480 yeah that was directed that was just for kiko so uh thank you man appreciate it we did have one that

01:18:54.080 came in it was about the gun stuff and then there's we were talking a little bit about the

01:18:57.840 uh did you have more on the nice guy versus good guy no i think i wrapped that up we can get back

01:19:02.400 to it later cool cool cool oh i was gonna ask for you two and then we will get to the gun thing real

01:19:06.640 quick uh how did you guys meet hinge yep i don't know that okay and we would have never met if it

01:19:13.840 wasn't for him so i'm very pro dating apps i know a lot of people aren't um but we didn't live in the

01:19:20.560 same area i do not go out at clubs i don't party sinho underscore donated 100 billy ray love you

01:19:29.440 thank you not too long ago i was dating a lefty feminist made me feel weak watching your clips

01:19:36.000 made me realize it was normal to set boundaries and expectations of her now i'm happily single

01:19:42.080 and focused on my mission air force ranger to be love to hear that and thank you for your service

01:19:49.120 yo cena thank you very much for your tts i much appreciated yeah billy has some awesome content

01:19:53.840 so uh be sure to check it out um you were going to talk about the apps oh the apps yeah we would

01:19:59.280 have never met if it wasn't for hinge um i don't go out i don't party i don't go out to clubs

01:20:05.040 so we would have never connected so i think they can be they could be used in the right way they need

01:20:11.920 to be used properly with intention um i um i can see why people don't want to be on them

01:20:17.840 i have i actually i was on sorry i'm gonna forget my thought if i don't say it i was on dating apps

01:20:23.120 for years and went on i think three total dates and all of those dates resulted in

01:20:32.720 my one relationship that i was in for four years another relationship that didn't last too long

01:20:37.840 only a few months and now damn yeah and for me the way that i used apps and i think that this is how

01:20:44.800 i would incur it i told you i'm in sales as sort of my full-time career alongside as i'm growing the

01:20:50.240 dating business um the uh i really would use dating apps sort of as like call it like sales pipeline like

01:20:58.240 basically you you get in you get a couple of matches party foul over here yeah you you

01:21:05.440 we're good huh yeah okay you whichever girls you know actually like take an interest and respond to

01:21:12.240 you the best conversations result in numbers so like i would over the course of maybe like a week

01:21:17.840 or two maybe get like two or three numbers then like one of those conversations is just going to kind

01:21:22.240 of die it's not going to work i might go on two dates like and i i rarely took girl i i did take

01:21:28.240 her out to dinner but i rarely would take girls out to dinner i'd usually just do coffee like hey

01:21:31.280 let's go over walks get a coffee low barrier to entry i'll pay that kind of thing um and i would like

01:21:36.640 one of those people more than the other i would say sorry to the other and try to date the other one

01:21:41.040 so like it's not one of these things where i kept going back to the well because i was like what's

01:21:44.560 next what's next like you can you can shut that off if you want to um and the other thing that i

01:21:51.440 think is kind of cool about the apps like she said we wouldn't have really met if we were on

01:21:56.000 the apps the other thing that's interesting about us when i say we have zero shared interests i mean

01:22:00.960 like zero shared interests um but our values completely align and that is i mean it took me

01:22:08.160 dating her to realize how much more important that is than like you both wanting to go like do the same

01:22:13.120 thing during the day to add to that to add to that like i said i grew up protestant and then i had

01:22:18.320 my little college phase um and then i like i returned back to the catholic church actually i

01:22:23.760 also went to catholic private school growing up um so yeah i i can really relate to like wanting to

01:22:30.640 like find i don't know i struggle with dating apps a lot in general because i find like especially where

01:22:37.360 i live in new york especially brooklyn a lot of the guys have that facade you're talking about this like

01:22:43.040 super feminist cool chill facade gonna be super sweet too whatever and then like when it comes

01:22:48.880 down to like building a foundation and like actually establishing values that was never something that

01:22:54.240 i entertained until i started going back to the church and realizing how important it was it turns

01:22:58.240 out they just want sex and once they don't get it for a certain period of time they start showing

01:23:01.600 their true colors yep absolutely yep but i mean don't you think there's some component of this whole nice

01:23:06.000 guy thing i mean certainly there are guys that uh sort of play nice but then they got they get

01:23:13.760 fucking salty when the girl curves them whatever i get that but there is certainly something to be said

01:23:19.120 about you know there are women out there who overlook some men who actually are good guys to chase after

01:23:29.120 the bad boys the jerks the assholes you know the you often hear women complain about oh i didn't feel

01:23:34.400 the vibe with him i didn't feel even though every other single metric is this guy he's he's perfectly

01:23:41.440 pleasant he's got his life together etc etc and then they go chase after some fucking scumbag or

01:23:48.160 they're chasing after you know whoever it may be or a guy who is able to elicit the vibe and whether that

01:23:55.040 sometimes comes down to he's kind of being kind of a dick you have to be willing to sorry you have to

01:24:03.200 be willing to sort not to quote jp again you have to risk being offensive in order to stimulate

01:24:08.560 somebody like that like you have to figure out like when girls talk about the vibe it really just

01:24:15.360 means that you're communicating in a very indirect way with them and then you're figuring out when to

01:24:21.360 speak to them directly like a man that's all butterflies no the vibe is like when you have a flow

01:24:26.640 like girls are very flowy with the way that they talk it's like it's it's about a bunch of different

01:24:30.960 things yeah like guys are more just like hey you want to get a coffee yeah sure what time okay where

01:24:36.240 okay cool see you there like that's how guys communicate and there's a right and wrong time

01:24:40.880 for you to speak to a woman that way like girls love it when they're just like hey like i got us

01:24:45.040 a reservation here meet me here at seven o'clock sound good cool but if he talked to you like that

01:24:50.240 all the time you'd be like who the hell is this robot right so this whole vibey thing guys who are too

01:24:57.920 nice they don't want to say something that they think could potentially be taken the wrong way or

01:25:04.080 could put the girl off and guys who are experienced with with game and with having these conversations

01:25:10.240 even if they do sense that maybe they put her off they still have the ability to kind of like tap on

01:25:13.760 the shoulder be like hey like i was just kidding like and then you can kind of like revitalize it or

01:25:18.400 you go to the bathroom you come back and you're just like hey i could tell that you like you needed

01:25:21.520 a second after that comment i just wanted to give you that second like and a lot of times they'll laugh

01:25:25.280 i'll be like i was just joking with you like guy like that recovery skill is a difficult one to

01:25:29.600 master that's why dating coaches exist you have to like teach guys like it's okay to take a risk

01:25:34.320 self-awareness you can make up for it you can't be like super gun-shy otherwise you're never going

01:25:39.120 to stimulate anybody yeah you're kind of describing my boyfriend a lot he's a dickhead but in the most

01:25:45.760 lovable way there you go exhibit a exhibit a uh let's get through a couple chats here uh nick if you're

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01:26:53.440 here let me do this one yo taylor wilson thank you man kika what do you think about destiny um i think

01:26:59.360 destiny is very educated and a great debater um he's one of the few i've seen in this space that

01:27:08.000 doesn't just take what people say like he will literally stop everything and look it up like he

01:27:11.840 has the facts to back up his point he's also really good at hearing out the other side and not just

01:27:17.200 talking over them i just discovered who destiny was like a couple weeks ago um yeah after he was on

01:27:24.560 here i saw some things and i've been watching a few of his videos um but yeah i think he's a great

01:27:30.640 debater um yeah i don't know him like that martin yo martin good to see you man brian what are you

01:27:39.360 doing throwing that passive aggressive flannel wrist at my girl keep it up and see if i save you from

01:27:45.440 the next shark attack priya my peer let me know you emailed been too busy to respond but i will soon

01:27:52.400 don't embarrass us tonight i definitely didn't but sure marquavius martin um he actually uh he might

01:28:06.240 be down to go on a safari with you and he's quite skilled he's quite adept at protecting people from

01:28:12.160 wild animals since he's protected me from a wild out wait what her baby's name marquavius

01:28:22.480 off top madison had a indiscretion so that is marquavius jr yes there was an indiscretion many

01:28:31.360 months ago it's a sour spot it's a dark cloud over the podcast i don't really like talking about it

01:28:38.400 anymore um so marquavius uh he's been retired are you down to go on safari with marquavius martin

01:28:48.000 come on throw him see how girls have a hard time saying no it's like nice guys

01:28:53.760 oh hey bender i have a joke to tell it may be a bit offensive how did god create women he tore the

01:29:00.320 blank uh off a sinner's body oh a p okay the man screamed so loud his voice became feminine the hole

01:29:11.280 that was left behind became the v v and the balls were glued to the chest yo bender thank you for that

01:29:18.640 appreciate it um the yeah the tts i guess doesn't trigger if you use certain i mean i'm still like don't

01:29:25.920 curse words but thank you thank you bender that was joke should have a punch line like what's the

01:29:29.760 punch line maybe there's a part two to it i guess we'll send another tts and we'll find out oh wow okay

01:29:36.400 kiko put it into work here okay i mean like what was like the he goes the marketing campaign i love

01:29:41.440 a good i love a good offensive joke i really do but like that just wasn't funny just didn't okay all right

01:29:48.000 i didn't do it for you so wait priya do you accept marquavius martin's safari invitation

01:29:52.480 what they can horse ride together i'm busy

01:30:02.000 i'll put in a good word i'll put in a good word marquavius sorry we have jason talent brian this is

01:30:07.760 why there are past this is why there is wait there are is that grammar there are no uh 45 to 50 of

01:30:17.840 women ages 30 and older will be single by 2030 brian what do you in the panel by the way it's

01:30:22.560 with an eye how dare you jason uh what do you in the panel think about the passport bro and do you

01:30:28.160 and the panel agree with the passport for a movement uh me personally i'm i think it's cool

01:30:33.920 um i think if you are go to where you're appreciated and if you're a guy and you're in the west and you

01:30:40.720 cannot find eligible uh partner that's going to appreciate you here in the west then and you can

01:30:48.720 find that in latin america southeast asia wherever maybe eastern europe go for it can you kind of

01:30:57.600 elaborate on passport bros well passport bros basically uh it's men who are dissatisfied with the

01:31:03.200 women in the local environment so typically you find them in western countries so the united states

01:31:10.560 other western countries probably uk uh australia just western countries that are probably like a

01:31:18.160 little more values different values starting to go a bit woke and like yeah so so they'll often go to

01:31:25.120 latin america they'll often go to thailand or vietnam or just various columbia different countries

01:31:33.200 is that what we're talking about no well not necessarily but but where where the perception

01:31:38.000 is is that in these countries women are more traditional they're more feminine etc etc and so

01:31:44.160 they're they're moving there and i think one interesting thing is um men from other countries

01:31:50.480 so we have men from western countries in the u.s that are going to these other countries to

01:31:55.040 find women but there's no men from other countries coming to the u.s clamoring to get with american

01:32:01.920 women so um i just like to add in terms of the passport bro movement i would encourage men to be

01:32:07.440 careful um because like as a western man i mean i've i've seen it before i've had friends that are like

01:32:13.200 passport bros or whatever i've dated passport bros before and um i kind of noticed that they have a

01:32:18.880 tendency to be more uh effed over if you will or used for their money uh usually if they're coming

01:32:25.920 from western societies have a passport citizenship stuff like that i would urge men to be careful and

01:32:31.200 not to just think that the world is kind of their playground although i would not judge them for

01:32:34.720 wanting to go to a different country to find a woman of different value you should be careful here

01:32:38.480 as well yeah absolutely no absolutely of course i mean that goes without saying right 50 divorce

01:32:43.280 right so i know the videos like of passport bros coming out and being like oh i got duped like i got

01:32:48.640 played by i know three passport bros i don't know if anyone here personally knows them i know three and

01:32:55.840 none of them have a great ending i'm not saying i'm against it but i do think there is um

01:33:02.800 um there's a little more to it i think um than it seems on the surface and i'm only speaking

01:33:09.680 anecdotally i'm sure a lot of men have gone and found wonderful women i think that's great if the

01:33:15.200 women here aren't satisfactory to them go um but it is not all sunshine and rainbows going to another

01:33:22.080 country and um finding a woman yeah i mean i don't think uh i don't think the whole passport bros thing

01:33:29.040 it's like wow this is just gonna you know there's certainly room for

01:33:32.800 for things to not work out i mean well but but i mean the passport like one that i know

01:33:39.760 went to south america found a woman brought dated her for a while brought her back here and then as

01:33:45.680 soon as she could divorce him she did got her citizenship that's something so then so he went

01:33:50.720 back to south america he's got another one he's currently there and he will not leave the country

01:33:56.240 because he's like i know that the woman will leave me if i take her to america so the thing that men

01:34:01.440 need to understand is by all means go like go and do that but if they're under the impression that

01:34:08.800 those women don't see them as a resource and even more of a resource than the average american woman

01:34:15.680 they just need to know that and if they're okay with the sex money exchange and being seen as a

01:34:20.240 resource and that's not all women and it's not all men but i also know one who's here he's in his

01:34:25.600 70s now like he was one of the first passport bros and he has a wife who's like 30 years younger than

01:34:32.320 him she waits on him hand and foot does all the things i mean she's a servant to him ultimately

01:34:38.160 she's waiting for him to die so she can have his house have his money does she love him yes are they

01:34:44.000 in love no but that's an option if that's something you're into i want to touch on that

01:34:49.600 100 thank you prometheus brown if you can call him biget was passport bro from 90 day fiance

01:34:57.600 that's why i was super confused when like i first heard about passport bros because like growing up

01:35:02.480 all i ever really knew about like those type of relationships was like from what i've seen in 90

01:35:06.560 day fiance where it's like not even just with the man coming from america even like when it's women

01:35:12.080 sometimes and men from other countries it's usually so obvious that they're just trying to either

01:35:17.760 get a visa or get some money that's why i was like surprised when i heard that it was like

01:35:24.320 not for those reasons um like i don't well i think it could be toxic when it's mixed with red pill

01:35:30.720 rhetoric so like you have the the passport bros kind of fall under like this red pill movement and i

01:35:36.160 think that like the red pill movement a lot of the times say that like you know get as much money as you can

01:35:40.400 be successful be a high value man and that also includes providing for women and so when you

01:35:45.440 combine the that philosophy or that value system of provisioning for women and then you combine that

01:35:50.640 with being a passport bro you're more likely and more inclined to get screwed over and that's my concern

01:35:57.760 go ahead brian oh well as far i mean certainly uh these men who are passport bros can certainly be

01:36:04.800 preyed upon and some of these women certainly may be predatory however i'm sure there's in the same way

01:36:09.760 that there's men who are getting uh you know screwed over or the it's a very transactional

01:36:15.600 relationship i'm sure there's also women in these countries that are happy to actually have a genuine

01:36:21.920 relationship with these men so i mean and also a lot of these men um some of them might bring the

01:36:30.800 women back here but a lot of them are expats and they're just going to live in that's true thailand or

01:36:35.920 uh the philippines or wherever it is and it's probably they've just moved there and it's much

01:36:40.880 more of the cost of living now are women doing this too or is it just men women women really don't

01:36:46.480 i don't think women travel passport gals like i don't think that's a thing i mean maybe well i mean

01:36:51.920 like because i've heard of obviously like bringing younger men here like older women you know what i

01:36:57.040 mean getting younger pretty rare yeah i suspect but oh sorry hold on just a second donated 100

01:37:05.120 madison is an amazing mother the reason we broke up is that i'm a white man so you can imagine the

01:37:11.440 issue pre hands to god i own a npo that helps dogs and horses if i'm not the one there is no one we'll

01:37:20.560 see what you think after i'm on the oh is marquavius finally going to come on the podcast martin come on

01:37:25.920 the podcast come on the podcast we can revisit this live date pre and martin there you go he is a

01:37:32.080 destiny commentates he is a mensa member and priya if he if he fully funded your

01:37:41.200 horse dreams that's not something that's necessarily important to me you can you have seven horses

01:37:48.400 okay seven seven horses he will pay for them

01:37:52.160 um there will be what is this number it's a beautiful number the the there's a stables

01:37:59.600 you'll have stables at your house it'll be a ranch is that i'll probably be able to pay for that myself

01:38:05.920 someday i'm not i'm not too concerned over that but okay i mean would it would it be nice sure but i'm

01:38:13.440 that's not a deciding factor and who i seek out for a partner okay all right well there you go all right

01:38:20.560 uh did you have something on the passport bro thing yeah i think and it's going to result in

01:38:24.960 me kind of posing a question to the the panel here i i think what i can appreciate about passport bros is

01:38:32.880 i think it's an effective like flag being raised for western women as well like i'm not i'm not

01:38:39.680 necessarily saying that they're going to find someone i'm not saying that they're not going to

01:38:43.760 get screwed over i'm not even necessarily saying that i would encourage men to go do it like you said

01:38:48.320 if you want to cool go do it um i do think though that the motivation for it is the fact that

01:38:56.880 men are still expected to act very traditionally they're expected to be very chivalrous they're

01:39:00.400 expected you know to be protectors maybe they're not expected to provide to the same extent now that

01:39:06.400 women can essentially match them on income up to basically a certain point where maybe men start to

01:39:12.960 be willing to negotiate harder as they get older maybe women decide to settle down and be mothers to put a

01:39:17.520 sort of halt in their career talk about that right but men don't need to be as strict of provisioners

01:39:23.680 the way that they used to be but they still need to be protectors they still need to take care of

01:39:26.400 you they still are expected to do things like open your door give the jacket uh like when you're cold

01:39:33.040 things like that but if that's what the male if that's what a man's duty to you is to be chivalrous

01:39:40.640 it's very very loosely defined what a woman's duty to a man is it's very ambiguous and that is why i think

01:39:45.760 they go to places where they are actually taught from a young age how to treat a man what is your

01:39:50.640 duty to a man and whether you want to talk about in in the context of the word submission which i

01:39:55.200 know that a lot of girls don't like me and her use the word deference instead of submission sounds a

01:39:59.760 little bit better it's like she wants to defer to her man a little bit more than he defers to her

01:40:04.800 which is essentially submitting um but i would love to know what you guys think what if men have those

01:40:11.280 duties to you and that's an expected duty what do you think your duty to men is i think that's

01:40:16.880 the importance of having for me personally having um my identity with god and because in the bible it

01:40:23.440 lays out what a woman should be in proverbs 31 31 i actually read that today yes and it's beautiful you

01:40:29.440 know it's it's nothing that holds women back and instead it like you embrace your natural state you

01:40:36.960 know it's like you thrive the most in this setting and so i feel like if i mean all i feel like all

01:40:44.160 women can thrive most when they have a relationship with god so that's my stance anybody else yeah i i

01:40:49.680 don't agree with that that they have to have a relationship with god um could you could you

01:40:53.680 repeat the question well i said what do i think about deference or submission well not necessarily what

01:40:58.160 is the female equivalent of chivalry yeah yeah if men have a duty to you and we sort of define that

01:41:02.800 duty as chivalry this concept right what would be the female version of chivalry what would a

01:41:07.360 what would female duty to a man i would say due to fourth wave feminism like it's become so amorphous

01:41:12.960 like but i would say that we're probably going to see a division of like women that are hyper feminine

01:41:19.920 bender the offender donated 99 i will admit that my joke was not funny brian you should have had chase

01:41:27.120 on today so we could have diddy kong versus chase round three see like that was funny that was

01:41:33.440 better we're making progress diddy kong i'm really proud of you is that offensive in some like but

01:41:40.240 could it conceivably no like because the original thing that got the original thing that got me and

01:41:47.680 chase cracking up on the show with gorlock was the diddy kong comment so in every but then any

01:41:53.120 yeah anything you're going to follow up with that is now immediately negated because you just

01:41:58.400 because you said gorlock okay what anyways i think that's nobody knows nobody knows that's the name

01:42:06.000 no one remembers ali i mean i remembered ali pretty well yeah he has he has fans he's just trying to

01:42:10.640 make sure they all know who he's talking about i'm just that's thank thank you for the thing you're

01:42:14.640 thinking that's good anyways i can answer the question got you um yo but okay

01:42:21.280 is it conceivably offensive for someone to say that you look like diddy kong from mario kart race

01:42:29.680 well i mean it's not a compliment no no but like is it like race i you know i never was thinking that

01:42:35.520 deep on it because i don't want to really play that card if it's okay not um okay i really like

01:42:43.120 because you know i see it but i don't see it at the same time actually i think half of his face is

01:42:48.080 lighter than the other that's actually pretty accurate that's why i'm like you know i'm like

01:42:53.120 it's like a mix maybe maybe i maybe i give diddy tom that's fine uh anyways i think i think round

01:42:58.480 three would be good i think talk about it i think around three would be good we could talk about it

01:43:02.640 um i think that the it's in the works compare or what is the female duty to a man yeah i'm kind of

01:43:10.480 i wouldn't say old school because they'll tear me apart that's why i feel like you have to please say

01:43:14.560 old school go deep on that it's because i know you look at me i have tattoos whatever so i won't

01:43:19.840 i've not not a virgin wait until marriage so you wouldn't call me a traditional woman but that's

01:43:25.280 why i found a man and of the same level of traditional if you will but like for me i think the

01:43:34.880 the woman's side of men's chivalry is being a homemaker i do agree with that i enjoy cleaning up the

01:43:42.480 house i enjoy doing my laundry for us i enjoy making our meals but at that same token since i

01:43:49.280 am still working we're both working if there is a day that i don't feel like cooking or doing one of

01:43:53.600 those things he has no problem picking up that slack but i feel like overall on the day-to-day it is my

01:44:00.160 job whereas his job is to provide me with um protection and other things that you listed she is

01:44:07.920 absolutely the nurturer in our relationship but when she was sick with the flu i wasn't going to

01:44:13.440 leave her to nurture herself okay all right no no i know so i can appreciate that i like if it's

01:44:18.160 90 of the time sure but i would hope he's there for me doesn't mind doing those duties if it's you know

01:44:24.240 for a reason not just because i feel like fucking off and doing sorry i feel like doing nothing but

01:44:28.080 yeah would you consider your man to be the leader in the relationship yes yeah that's an interesting

01:44:33.200 one too i wouldn't want to be with a man who's not the leader actually before i pose that question

01:44:38.400 i like being myself i want to let other people i was actually talking before when you were talking

01:44:42.880 about like uh like the like women nowadays and like what their role is i think you're going to find

01:44:48.000 like uh three different subsections of women like women that are maintain that hyper femininity that

01:44:53.520 like find that masculine man and they both like complement each other in terms of their gender roles

01:44:57.680 then you're going to have women kind of like kiko kind of like me that um like aspects of

01:45:01.840 traditionalism and want to adopt those and can respect that and understand the balance between

01:45:06.480 men and women and then you're going to have women that are like nope i'm going to pay i'm an independent

01:45:11.760 woman i don't need no man i think that's like where we're going you're going to have like three

01:45:15.760 divisions of women and i think that's actually in the beginning works of men too like that that's

01:45:20.960 happening there's men's movement right now i mean red pill movement like my written fresh from fresh and

01:45:25.760 vet all of those um big names um it's that they were there i feel like we're on the precipice of

01:45:31.680 like men also dividing and figuring out hang on do i have to fulfill this role as a chivalrous man or

01:45:38.000 yes can i and that i think that's a very very scary proposition because i think that could make it

01:45:42.640 harder yes than it already is i kind of like the fact that men have this expectation and women are

01:45:48.880 having to sort of figure out what the expectation is of them i do not want to see there be a divide

01:45:55.040 in men as well i think that's going to spell out a lot of trouble because fundament and you know this

01:45:59.600 as a psychologist right we are very different and a lot of times what women say that they are looking

01:46:05.120 for they are not actually looking for and if men start to become more feminine and adopt those feminine

01:46:10.240 roles we're screwed like women are not going the women who think that they want to be the leaders

01:46:15.360 and the masculine ones aren't going to be attracted to those men no and i'm just going to say this right

01:46:19.840 now every single person that or sorry couple that i know that have a relationship where the woman is

01:46:25.520 the more dominant person in the relationship it never works out every single couple that i've known

01:46:31.200 to have that sort of dynamic has either broken up in a very messy divorce or something of that sort

01:46:36.800 i'm not saying that it can't work but i don't think that it's the majority of those types of

01:46:40.160 relationships let's let's go around the table on that sure has anybody here any of the women here

01:46:45.680 been more so the as you would put it what the leader in the relationship or the more dominant

01:46:51.200 one is that the phrasing you used yeah so any women here who have been kind of the more the

01:46:56.080 leader or the dominant one in the relationship drove me to hell drove me crazy i wanted to leave it

01:47:02.400 was horrible you you raised your hand too anybody someone else raised their hand too i think

01:47:06.080 i actually was yeah just with yours really quick sure it drove you to hell yeah now was it was it

01:47:12.800 because he was lacking in some way or maybe it was a combination but could it have also been

01:47:19.680 like oh you perhaps in your past were more you wanted to or at least you thought you wanted to be that

01:47:26.880 way i thought i wanted to be that way okay um i don't necessarily i've had three monogamous

01:47:33.360 relationships in my life um they were all so sweet so kind treated me like a princess but essentially

01:47:40.000 the masculinity was lacking like big there was no leadership there was no direction i had to fulfill

01:47:46.320 the nurturing role and then the planning role and there was no there was no establishment of like what

01:47:52.080 our roles were but at the time i was like fuck gender roles like whatever like that's just lame anyways like

01:47:57.760 we just need to you know just work it out and i really did not want to come to the conclusion that

01:48:06.000 what i was actually looking for was not at all what i was taught that i actually wanted

01:48:13.760 what's the question the question i can answer the question i don't think people would expect me to have

01:48:19.120 been in a relationship where i was the dominant one um but i was in a relationship where

01:48:26.720 there there was a man that was more dominant than me who was the leader and then i i ended up um

01:48:33.360 getting a random career on social media that just kind of took off and it shifted to this dynamic

01:48:39.040 where i was making all the decisions and i was handling the money and it just um it's it's not a

01:48:44.000 positive situation to be in and i just um grew very resentful when i was the one left having to

01:48:51.520 make all of those decisions so that's why it didn't work out it wasn't because you know he

01:48:55.200 wasn't a good person it was just when those roles are reversed it just doesn't seem to work

01:49:00.720 two things um actually first someone actually responded to one of your q a's earlier and you

01:49:06.560 talked about you give a really really interesting response about the struggle between being

01:49:11.840 a modern day woman versus being the type of woman who can like truly attract and retain

01:49:17.360 a man like how can you have a career how can you pursue something be independent until you have a

01:49:21.600 man protect yourself in case that man does something that makes you want to leave yes and do you want

01:49:25.920 to share kind of like what your thoughts on that were sort of like the flipping the switch oh yeah um

01:49:32.000 we obviously are in a society where

01:49:36.240 two people in the relationship do have to work in some situations i mean it's not possible

01:49:41.200 for every single couple to have a stay-at-home mom and a housemaker like a homemaker it's just not

01:49:46.320 possible nowadays um so i was saying in those situations the woman has to be able to

01:49:54.560 come home and not be the boss babe anymore she has to know how to turn that switch off for it to be

01:49:58.960 able to work because yes there are women that have thriving careers but if she knows how to flip that

01:50:04.400 switch then that's the way that it and something that you said you said the first thing she has to do

01:50:08.960 is recognize the things that help her be successful yes are not the are often not the same things that

01:50:14.880 will help you retain attraction from a man yeah i think that's super important and the other thing

01:50:20.960 that i like to talk about with regards to me and her um because me and her like i i think we would say

01:50:27.280 that she would identify me as the leader of the relationship but i'd be interesting to hear your guys

01:50:34.320 take on what you think leadership is because i think when people think about leadership they think

01:50:39.920 like a dictatorship where it's like do as i say leadership if any of you have ever worked for or

01:50:45.120 been around a good leader a good leader is the person who is really just willing to put their head

01:50:50.320 on the line because no one else is willing to they're willing they're the ambitious one they're the one

01:50:54.720 with the you said planning more so than planning it's like i have an idea of a risk that we can take

01:51:00.240 i have a path that i think we can get there what do you think about this plan and now it's on i do

01:51:05.760 this with her all the time um we've talked about ways to potentially you know grow her brand uh that

01:51:10.960 i'm now a part of right and i got my own thing as well but like we've had to make some decisions

01:51:15.600 about you know what can we do can we do we have to cut back on certain things do we need to focus on

01:51:20.480 certain content do we need to say no to brand deals in order to not like flood you know feeds with

01:51:27.040 just like products and make sure that like fans aren't going to be the brains of the operation

01:51:30.960 right like like there are like little decisions that you make but you know if i offer up an idea

01:51:35.360 like that like i'm not expecting her to be like yes sir i'm expecting her to look at me and think to

01:51:42.000 herself like what is you know here are my concerns what are your thoughts on those concerns right right

01:51:48.960 um like there i think that leadership is a much much more nuanced thing than people give it credit

01:51:54.080 for so i'm wondering what you guys think about that and what you think about a man's leadership

01:51:59.200 let's let's just come back to that a little bit let's come back to that a little bit later i do need

01:52:05.600 to get through a couple things here first um okay so i do need to touch on the gun thing so

01:52:13.040 it was is it a deal breaker hold on let me see positive negative or neutral

01:52:19.440 if the man owns again yeah yeah so uh when it comes to gun ownership positive deal breaker or neutral

01:52:27.360 if uh partner owns nine times out of ten positive for me positive just a reminder speaking to your

01:52:36.960 mic please guys neutral positive positive i would say positive i'd like to feel protected but as long

01:52:42.160 as you're using that gun in the right ways then absolutely neutral to positive is this the gun yeah

01:52:52.320 positive i think it's a big positive as long as you educate yourself and know how to use the firearm

01:53:00.960 correctly and safely i would say positive as long as you're trained and it's not just an accessory

01:53:07.200 that was only to the oh yeah that's true that's true because i would say positive all right uh so

01:53:17.200 some of you so graciously provided some uh pre-show notes here so we're gonna react i'm sorry not react

01:53:25.440 we're going to uh address some of the pre-show notes that you guys provided to us uh nicole since

01:53:31.040 you're returning um you said in a message to us you said you wanted to discuss brian's status as a six

01:53:42.080 what did you mean by that well so this is only my second time on the show but then i saw i think it

01:53:48.560 was the next show maybe that tuesday i had never heard the men rate themselves i always see the women

01:53:53.920 rating themselves and i think you said you rated yourself on the look scale a six but on a good day

01:53:59.760 is 6.9 yeah i mean that's kind of just like a humorous thing i say but yeah but like i feel

01:54:04.720 like i'm a six but i might be a little cuter than you so are you a five or am i a seven i think are you

01:54:12.960 a five or am i a seven or are we the same cuteness you think you're okay no i think i'm a six you think

01:54:21.280 i'm a six and your assessment of my physical attractiveness is less than yours i think i'm

01:54:27.760 there's an age discrepancy there isn't ages but if i and men and women they're peak yeah i understand

01:54:35.040 that relationship i thought we're just talking physical looks oh so disregarding age disregarding

01:54:42.880 age just looks i didn't well what was your scale on what do you mean you're six i thought it was

01:54:48.480 purely i thought you had said something i give myself like a six okay i'm that's fair given the metrics

01:54:53.520 metrics and look some women might think i'm lower some might think i'm seven whatever it may be in

01:54:58.560 any case um so i think my my self-assessment is i'm like i'm above average height i'm six one full head

01:55:09.520 of hair blue eyes solid beard i could you know uh i'm not overweight so i would say that that puts me at

01:55:18.960 slightly above average and a six okay that's fair oh yeah i had never heard the men rate themselves

01:55:24.960 i also think that the like the scale looks a lot different from men to women there's well we're

01:55:30.720 being graded on different things no no absolutely but if here i'll just i'm gonna do hold on oh so

01:55:36.320 sorry continue i'm just gonna let the chat know if we're looking i'm doing a poll if we're looking at a

01:55:40.400 scale from one to ten obviously one and ten are going to be the least are going to be a small small

01:55:50.000 fraction of the population i think in terms of good looks there are a lot more good-looking women

01:55:57.520 compared to how many good-looking men there are nicole okay so brixton versus nicole right

01:56:02.480 help though so what's that yeah absolutely yeah we have makeup yeah we have makeup we have hair

01:56:08.880 makes a huge difference and also in this day and age of like especially in california it's getting

01:56:13.440 harder to tell who has fillers or botox whereas men aren't as likely to do those things so i feel like

01:56:18.800 that also helps why we have a lot more attractive women more than men martin donated yeah thank you

01:56:24.720 mark wavis brian ask all the ladies what they want in a relationship i'm kidding i couldn't care

01:56:31.840 less pria answer the question being a horse girl i know you come from money but not this kind of

01:56:39.360 money brian i will come on when in ca have pria on when i am hey actually pria is moving to the

01:56:46.880 southern california i don't know if i yeah she's moving to socal so we'll have her on more thank

01:56:52.480 you mark wavis much appreciated um i come from a middle class background with some help from my mother

01:57:01.840 when i was younger okay so okay the poll's been going for a minute now we have 524 votes there's

01:57:09.520 about 5 000 people watching who is cuter brian or nicole i feel like i should have worded this

01:57:15.120 question a little better that was the question what's the question that was just the question

01:57:19.360 because i thought you were just talking about yeah but i should have worded it like who is more

01:57:23.280 look if they vote that you're cuter objectively more physically attractive okay well if i lose

01:57:28.960 which i think i'm gonna lose maybe do i have to wear flannel next time no but you've just been

01:57:35.360 i mean keep in mind there's men watching this and they there's men who probably don't want to

01:57:41.600 consider themselves as like gay and they're saying i'm cuter than you so it's 75 to 25 so shoot do i have

01:57:50.400 to wear flannel now next time i don't see how that's all at all related but plus you know how

01:57:55.840 they feel about maybe it's gonna make me cuter maybe it's the flannel uh but speaking of rating

01:58:01.280 uh and i will i will further rebuke your your six comment or your sorry excuse me your your uh

01:58:09.680 rejection that i'm a six i will rebuke it after i do this uh let's see here we have stifler ask

01:58:16.640 everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one to ten kiko you first um so you know i've had a lot

01:58:26.560 of feedback in the recent months about my appearance and i've been kind of taking a mental note of what

01:58:32.880 i see like in my comments and everything so i think when you like average it out when you take all of

01:58:38.640 the like zeros and then all the tens and then the few like sevens and threes i'll give myself a nice

01:58:45.440 like six maybe seven or maybe it's being too generous there's a lot of zeros there maybe five

01:58:52.800 five i guess kiko every other almost every other episode you've been on you've given yourself a 10.

01:58:57.600 and you guys have told me i was wrong every single time am i not have you been convinced like i mean

01:59:02.560 you've been convinced well i mean you guys are telling me that it's not what i see myself as

01:59:08.400 it's what everyone else views me and they've given me their feedback so i've seen the feedback and i

01:59:13.440 recognize that i am now all right some growth five getting some growth here okay did your boyfriend

01:59:18.880 tell you to say that no okay he told me that um you're a 10. no he told me oh your own boyfriend

01:59:28.000 well no he'll tell me i'm a 10 like he thinks okay not but he always says like he says the same

01:59:32.320 thing that most people say like um i'm a nine because there's always room for improvement is

01:59:36.560 what he would tell me to say i think that's too like wow that's just too like predictable look at

01:59:42.720 that okay so you used to say you're 10 now you're a what six six maybe six and a half it's a lot of

01:59:52.320 numbers i get thrown in my comments so it's hard to keep track all right all right what about you

01:59:56.400 well i thought it was a six but if she's going with six i'm gonna lower mine don't worry about her

02:00:03.120 scale i'd say six um i'm a 10 on the res on the what res the reservation yeah wait are you native

02:00:13.520 american yeah oh i did not notice i was like you're a 10 on the res yeah

02:00:20.080 what what tribe do you i'm sue tribe sue oh yeah okay cool but like i work for bay mills tribe but

02:00:29.840 there's you work for the what bay mills tribe bam there's different tribes bay mill bay mills

02:00:35.520 bay mills bay mills yeah okay yeah cool so but i'm sue tribe so but i work for them so

02:00:41.680 but we all have like a little community do you live on the reservation i have

02:00:46.240 not right now have you ever gone off the reservation yes this is the this is the

02:00:52.880 farthest i've ever been west um i go to florida a lot okay i go to florida a lot but you know this

02:00:59.440 is the first time i've been west okay um what do you rate yourself on the scale of one to ten brian

02:01:08.000 i'm a little confused on this because last time you said it's a fixed scale right like beauty is a fixed

02:01:14.000 scale that's what you said prior did i say that i don't think there's an objective i think it's

02:01:19.600 said there's an objective which is fixed right sure all right yeah right okay so what are you

02:01:25.200 predicating on what are you predicating that on like western beauty because there's eurocentric

02:01:30.080 beauty you said you're right how about white skin blue eyes well i mean see what i mean i well i disagree

02:01:36.880 that for example say a woman who's an asian woman who has dark hair and dark eyes i don't she could be

02:01:44.880 a 10 in the west so i reject this idea that you need to have blue eyes and blonde hair whatever the

02:01:50.400 fuck that would mean that the scale isn't objective then right well but there's more you you can't a 10

02:01:57.040 can manifest itself in like there's not a singular person that's a 10 okay so you there's there's room for

02:02:06.160 differentiation like for example a woman with blue eyes could be a 10 a woman with brown eyes

02:02:12.480 so what's the objective standard if well there's something there's something to be said about

02:02:16.800 facial symmetry for example there's something to be said about having a healthy body fat percentage

02:02:21.600 range that's and you don't think race plays into that hierarchy of beauty at all in the western

02:02:25.920 society there are many studies across different cultures and races and and locations around the world

02:02:31.120 the the scale holds up to of course it's going to look different in different cultures in society

02:02:37.920 but the scale of like face symmetry and hip to waist race ratio and certain things like that

02:02:44.480 live up to that also the face symmetry science is pretty outdated though in the psych universe just

02:02:50.720 to say i would just point out that as my understanding is is that for example asian women are rated the

02:02:57.440 most attractive cohort of women so i i'm not i don't know why you in where where in the u.s in

02:03:05.760 the u.s yes asian women are the most attractive as women are frequently ranked as the most desirable

02:03:11.600 uh when it comes source question mark but that's pretty shocking to me to hear yeah me too

02:03:17.360 i think asian women are beautiful in any case what are you getting at yeah i'm not oh i was just i

02:03:22.960 was genuinely just wondering like what the metric was so that i can give myself an accurate like

02:03:27.200 number that's all i was just wondering like what your what the scale is predicated on right no it's

02:03:31.840 how other people perceive us that's why i was trying to say like what is the scale predicated on because

02:03:35.840 are you latina yeah puerto rican i'm so are you asking me if you're less attractive because of

02:03:43.680 your race like i don't get what you're going for okay so like uh i was just teasing about the

02:03:47.760 rest you're overthinking this it was a joke you're really i don't think i'm overthinking it you're

02:03:51.920 like you're over i said six last time i was gonna say what did you read yourself i i said six last

02:03:56.160 time i'll stay with six this time but i do think the scale is important to be talked about if we're

02:04:00.240 going to be giving out numbers what scale that's what i'm saying the objective scale that you you said

02:04:05.520 many times that there's a fixed objective standard of beauty and that the scale is one to ten and that

02:04:10.560 it's fixed so if it's one to ten and then it's fixed hold on can you hide one hundred dollars

02:04:16.960 this question is for pocahontas for her tribal name she who runs with many baby dads

02:04:23.360 if you work at a gas station and do only fans where do you hear this more often fill it up

02:04:30.480 i've never heard that before so where do you hear this more often fill it up i don't know what to tell

02:04:35.680 you i've never had anybody say that to me no i think they're saying fill it up right

02:04:41.200 no never so okay isn't it only in new jersey where where there's this person that has to

02:04:47.920 organ i don't know how to pump gas i just moved to florida you're from jersey i'm from jersey she's

02:04:52.080 from jersey brian what's up can you give us a woman i hope like a public figure of sorts that is a 10

02:04:59.600 to you a woman who's a 10 yeah the scale the scale does it the scale is useless or pointless

02:05:08.240 if nobody like you guys come here on sale time well nobody's truly a 10 nobody's perfect well then

02:05:13.040 there's no point in the scale there has to be somebody who's a 10. not saying that that 10 has

02:05:17.520 to be a 10 to him or somebody else but what's your version of a 10 right that's what we're asking

02:05:22.320 maddie it would sort of almost be an amalgamation because you have the body you have the body then you

02:05:28.960 have the face so like then you're 10 this girl well that isn't that doesn't make sense i think 10

02:05:34.720 is exceedingly rare okay it might be possible there's nines you don't you can't think of one

02:05:43.360 is that the term i don't know if that's the term but uh i would say like approaching 10

02:05:49.680 my personal take kristen kruik when she was kristen kruik smallville

02:05:55.680 oh my gosh i don't know who that is i don't know who that is can we pull it up

02:05:59.920 kristin kruik can we get a picture can we pull her up google google kristin kruik smallville

02:06:07.440 i think she's very attractive like for example like my very attractive i don't know if she's

02:06:11.440 a 10. i don't know if she's a 10. you said she's an adjustable 9. not for a 9. if he was a juice

02:06:18.240 head yeah that one he like said like his girlfriend is like flat out ted no questions i know he's

02:06:23.360 it's his girlfriend but like he was really standing 10 toes down on it and she's a beautiful woman

02:06:28.000 but i know a lot of people who wouldn't consider her a 10. so like that's a 10 to him sure which

02:06:33.280 would make sense why he might not like me because she's white with blue eyes or whatever so obviously

02:06:37.040 i won't be his 10. hold on um so oh she's beautiful kristen kruik scroll down yeah she looks like my

02:06:43.680 friend some of these photos are not flattering like if you see video if you know she is but if you see

02:06:49.840 video of her like no this is something i would agree with yeah some of the uh

02:06:56.000 some of these are not the best photos try wait actually hold on go down the one with the flowers

02:07:01.840 click on the flowery so you like the youngest looking photo of her

02:07:09.440 scroll down scroll down so you like priya scroll down

02:07:14.400 oh that's a good one wait the getty images getty images also the youngest one

02:07:21.840 2003 oh my goodness 20 years hold on she's what about margot robbie

02:07:27.520 margot robbie is a win she's like the most beautiful world also wait kristin kruik from

02:07:34.480 oh wait kristin kruik when she was in all the comments she's a 7.5 she's a six

02:07:39.040 lol definitely a 10 nobody's a 10 like it's so it's so subjective you guys cannot say that it is

02:07:45.680 100 set in stone what was that uh road trip wait search kristen kruik road trip

02:07:54.000 search kristen kruik road uh wait is it road trip is that the movie margot robbie

02:07:59.920 was hot 10 years ago how old is margot robbie you're a trip she's probably a little bit late

02:08:05.360 what she's 10 years ago oh my god search that if they're saying she's not he said margot robbie

02:08:10.640 is mid margot robbie let's check it out i mean like i'll just go check it out it's it's objective

02:08:16.720 it's so different based on kristin kruik different people yes obviously there's attractive people yes

02:08:21.440 obviously there's ugly people we know that but the photos don't do her justice okay oh is she scotty's

02:08:27.520 girlfriend uh scotty doesn't know yeah yeah scotty doesn't look up hey brian look up objective

02:08:32.640 standard of beauty i think we're sure we can look it up is that where you fell for when she was scotty's

02:08:42.880 girlfriend is that where yeah she's she's definitely a babe is that what turned you down though that

02:08:48.720 when she was like you know crazy in that one was she crazy she was she had like a very small role

02:08:54.640 yeah brian you said you don't like crackhead energy i do not you know yeah she was like screaming

02:09:01.680 um bro this is gonna give us can you look up no look up this like the study that they did look

02:09:07.840 there's something to say about uh symmetry and facial features and that changes country to country

02:09:16.240 bro you're over and it's like i'm not overthinking it you're overthinking i'm this is literally my field

02:09:21.440 like it the objective standard of beauty changes from country to country that's just how it works

02:09:28.320 there is take your standard what's your standard i already said six i'm like there we go i already

02:09:33.120 said that yeah that's good why are you looking at me like that yeah oh sorry i thought you were

02:09:44.240 gonna like say something conversation derailed like weird eyebrow at her um like at eight like

02:09:50.320 seven without makeup maybe six and a half without makeup but at eight on a good day

02:09:58.000 damn the chat's fucking roasting kristen crook okay all right fine whatever

02:10:06.720 uh ah fuck she got up okay she said six though remember she said six okay six for nicole

02:10:11.680 i would say like a 5.5 i'm gonna go 6.57

02:10:20.720 you gotta i'm gonna keep my answer consistent for the past three episodes and say a 6.7

02:10:29.200 all right i'd say i'm like solid eight

02:10:32.640 i think here's the other thing this is the first time a man has rated himself the highest at the table

02:10:37.360 like this is crazy i'm just nothing i know i know what your point is it's it's when girls start

02:10:44.720 rating them the when the first girl starts at not a 10 then it's it's not gonna oh there is a tribal

02:10:50.240 nature to the way you guys do this because when i say 10 usually i say when i say 10 first everyone

02:10:55.200 says 10 after me no i thought about this all the way here and the body count this and the body

02:11:01.360 count oh my god i mean i'll i'll say it though like uh pretty much all of you i don't think any

02:11:12.640 pretty much all of you are going to have are going to have a floor that's average like none of you are

02:11:18.800 objectively unattractive women you're gonna have a floor that's average and some men are going to

02:11:23.520 consider you guys brian watch it i miss you're gonna be fired sorry and so and some men are going

02:11:33.120 to consider you guys to be attractive i think objectively my beautiful girlfriend i think priya

02:11:38.800 um the latin touch is going to be really nice for a lot of guys i think madison and kiko in particular

02:11:45.040 you guys there are plenty of guys who are going to consider you to be like maybe upwards of like

02:11:50.640 eight and nines depending on their taste but i think floor is going to be average for pretty

02:11:55.600 much everybody here i agree

02:12:03.840 good times i'm trying to okay let me do some chats here we have puffy vegas our good friend

02:12:09.520 puff v puffy v starting with the girl black girl what on the right and he went the white girl what huh

02:12:19.200 seven point five six point five seven seven or seven point five six fuck us six seven six point

02:12:24.880 valdev donated ninety nine dollars puffy it is wild how such a simple question time and time again gets

02:12:31.360 so much overthought kiko needs a new nickname for her good faith also funny how the simps rate kiko ten

02:12:38.400 tenths they all would date if they could and it's not just simps rating me 10 out of 10 actually i have

02:12:45.760 a magnitude of the comments that i do get are men saying that they hate almost everything that

02:12:52.240 comes out of my mouth they don't stand for anything that they i say they don't agree with me at all we're

02:12:56.880 completely different but they can't deny that i'm attractive to them so i wouldn't say sure there are simps

02:13:02.720 but if anything i do get a lot of those comments so

02:13:06.960 wait what i agree not the only people call me 10 out of 10 are not just simps there is other men as

02:13:18.240 well you know valdiv thank you man appreciate it we have bender the offender here actually whoops we

02:13:23.440 have this one here dryzala 100 thank you man appreciate it first time super chat here question

02:13:28.880 for the panel if western standards weren't so high from women do you think the shorter men can stand a

02:13:34.320 chance of being with a woman he's attracted to i'm five foot two and all too often my height prevents

02:13:40.960 being with a woman dryzala thank you for the super chat man appreciate it uh yeah that height is

02:13:48.000 definitely it's a tough one for men can i comment on this so i find it absolutely ridiculous when short

02:13:55.120 women and i'm talking like five foot five two are like i will only date men over six foot tall

02:14:02.400 i think it's absolute bullshit get over yourself first of all i'm decently tall i'm five eight and

02:14:09.760 i've dated plenty of people that have been the same height as me um would i absolutely prefer somebody

02:14:15.120 that's taller than me yes but i find it so crazy that women that are very small are have such a

02:14:22.320 high preference but would you ever date someone shorter than you um i'm not saying that i wouldn't i

02:14:28.400 wouldn't you haven't uh the men that i've dated that are quote unquote the same size as me and

02:14:33.920 people have said that they're actually shorter than me but they're the same size on or same height on

02:14:38.000 paper but um no i mean i'm a pretty i have a pretty dominant personality i feel like and in a relationship

02:14:45.680 i do want to feel feminine and i don't want to feel like i'm the more dominant masculine one in the

02:14:53.680 relationship so if somebody has a personality and lifestyle that does portray that then that's

02:14:59.200 totally fine if they're same height maybe even shorter but yeah agreed yeah i feel bad for those

02:15:07.200 men too sometimes it is a double standard but also like yeah i've dated men the same height as me and

02:15:12.960 then i've run into the issue where i love my heels i love my taller shoes and like they would get actually

02:15:17.840 upset like would be visibly upset that i was taller than them with these shoes on and asked me to take them

02:15:22.880 off and say i'm not doing that i'm their shoes you know so that's where it's like i like a few

02:15:28.480 inches but a lot of those girls were like five foot tall literally like 4 or 11 saying oh i only date

02:15:32.640 men over six feet maybe they dated a couple men over six feet but all the time they're not even dating

02:15:37.680 men that are all over six feet they're just saying it but they've given a few maybe not the five two

02:15:42.480 guys are dating yes but they've given some five tens some five nines they can't even tell the difference

02:15:47.120 what is whoa they've given a five nine five ten guy a chance by the way five nines the average

02:15:55.120 male height i'm not i'm not saying that i've dated men that are five no i'm not saying that's you but

02:15:59.360 you're talking about these other i say give them a chance because they're these are the girls

02:16:03.040 heaven forbid you give an average a man who's of average height actually above average i was saying

02:16:08.560 that because these are the same woman quote unquote saying that they won't date anyone under six feet so

02:16:12.960 i'm saying that they give those men a chance is well yeah that's just ridiculous uh i i already

02:16:18.880 said i agree with that well the the problem for uh oh hold on jayman 973 donated 99 dollars

02:16:26.800 appreciate it love to see character development from oh look at that look at that you're winning

02:16:31.840 them over but honestly she's a 7.5 as for who comes close to attend exam to our mass much love

02:16:39.360 brilliant wait can we get a can we get a photo can you can you google a photo of anna de armas she

02:16:44.560 was in the james bond movie um she was she was like the agent that that that met that met him

02:16:49.840 i would agree i think she's probably one of the most attractive women in like entertainment right now

02:16:57.440 we got really huh her this photo on the bottom right maybe it's not flattering but

02:17:06.080 what don't you like uh x out and scroll down she's gorgeous oh no she's absolutely beautiful

02:17:12.240 i wouldn't say she's the standard of beauty she looks like angelina uh kylie jenner mixed together

02:17:16.720 really to me but i mean i mean she's definitely hot but i wouldn't say that's like the standard

02:17:23.280 right it's also so hard to tell in google images google images be doing a lot of women dirty

02:17:27.040 and then like those pictures look gorgeous isn't she older you know stuff around with that she's

02:17:35.760 probably in her 30s i don't know for sure though she kind of looks like she's probably being older

02:17:40.160 or whatever okay i was gonna say that you don't want to be me yeah bringing she's gorgeous bringing

02:17:47.440 this back up uh i think it's actually interesting and pria raises a good point pria you said you're

02:17:53.120 5 8 right yes yeah so i think it's actually like women who are average height or above actually have

02:18:00.240 less preference seem to care less about height than like a girl who's 4 11 or 5 feet

02:18:07.920 and you'd think oh okay well if you're a guy who's five foot two just get a girl who's 4 11 or 5 feet

02:18:14.880 actually those girls care even more about dating a guy who's tall for some reason like they want to

02:18:22.880 they want to reach stuff high brian they can't reach stuff they're trying to like even out their

02:18:26.960 gene pool yeah it's something like they're like if we get a six foot man maybe we can get some five

02:18:31.760 five kids i gotta be honest with you i needed somebody who was the same height as me and i

02:18:35.600 couldn't stand it you couldn't stand it did not like it did not like it did not like it how tall are you

02:18:40.880 i'm five four and he was five four five five okay i'm a little over five seven and i don't

02:18:47.360 understand the obsession with the over six feet thing i've dated men my same height i've dated

02:18:52.800 men who when i wear heels i'm taller than them um i i i don't know what the obsession my guy

02:18:59.520 is and that turns me on the same way they say like men have the it's a turn on yeah yeah i don't know

02:19:05.760 it's like i'm fine with the five nine like yeah you yes i'm sure there's very strong short men out

02:19:13.360 there i mean hey they're center of gravity they probably have some i feel like i have to yeah i feel

02:19:18.080 like i have to defend the five foot girls out here because i'm five feet me too and height has

02:19:24.240 never played a role in the man i've chosen i it plays no role in this he's way taller than me but

02:19:31.760 that's not why i'm attracted to him i'm six two no of course so i don't even think let's see a lot of

02:19:49.840 girls get into this whole thing where they think that it's like oh i it's because like i need to be

02:19:54.640 able to feel like i'm like hugging upward and things like that the reason why it bothers the

02:19:59.040 reason why five four bothered you is not because of his relative height to you it's because of his

02:20:02.640 relative height to other men that's why it bothers you that's why like i don't like being that that

02:20:07.280 that's why when you're five eight five not but you really don't like him not being out of eye to other

02:20:11.200 men i think that's the biggest thing and like she said he didn't want me wearing heels like a point

02:20:16.240 you know like this is why like if you meet a guy who's average height like it actually let's say you're

02:20:21.280 five feet tall you meet a guy who's five six and he do you want to say something real quick no go for

02:20:25.440 it i was gonna say if he you guys are emotionally stimulated that's how you get aroused like you

02:20:32.320 guys that's why you never hear a guy being like i just want a girl to have a really good sense of

02:20:36.080 humor no that's what girls say okay just you guys if you meet if you're five foot one five foot two

02:20:42.720 you meet a guy who's five foot six your initial thought seeing him maybe out of bar or something like

02:20:47.200 that is going to be like he's a little short but the moment that he opens his mouth and he's got

02:20:52.400 he's got riz he's making you laugh he knows how to freaking like schedule a date take you out show you

02:20:57.840 a good time you've got that vibe right and then all of a sudden you realize like oh he's like super

02:21:02.720 disciplined like i enjoy spending time with him your height the height preference goes out the window

02:21:08.800 guys who are five two five one five foot those guys are in big trouble because of their relative height to

02:21:15.920 other men not their relative height to you even growing up the most like suave like

02:21:21.360 like the two boys i remember growing up my class at my catholic school was small

02:21:25.200 they were i was five five in fifth grade these boys were like four nine until the day we graduated

02:21:30.320 eighth grade but they were the lady men like lady man whatever you call them of our class even though

02:21:35.520 they were the shortest like they were just so funny like they class clowns athletic whatever but kind of

02:21:41.280 back to my comment earlier when i said a lot of women those short women will say i only date men

02:21:45.840 above six feet but actually not because of how it sounds they don't want to be the one to say like

02:21:50.800 oh like they think it sounds lesser if they say they're not dating men over six feet so that's why

02:21:56.400 that's the whole like trend to say like i only date men over six feet i also think dating apps in

02:22:01.760 particular highlight this i think that if you're if you're a guy who's under six feet tall on a dating

02:22:06.320 app you're going to struggle because women are going to be in their heads about this preference without

02:22:10.560 realizing that they're just setting themselves up to fail i think that you back to what you were

02:22:15.920 saying we have a friend i don't want to say his name yeah we have a friend that's uh i think he's

02:22:19.440 five two yep and he does struggle on dating apps but in person he is always the most alpha person in

02:22:26.240 the room um and in person he gets every girl he approaches and it's because of his personality is so true

02:22:33.600 very masculine personality on like on my platform like men ask me i like i get so many like dms from

02:22:41.440 men being like help like my looks are about like a five i'm a little bit short like do i have a

02:22:47.040 chance with a girl who's a nine or ten and like the answer is absolutely yes because like the the

02:22:51.840 guy that i was talking about earlier it's gonna be harder it's gonna be harder yes absolutely you have

02:22:55.520 to be more confident you have to work on you have to like flex that muscle but um the guy that i'm

02:23:00.400 dating and that's abstinent and he's my height a little bit shorter than me and um when i first

02:23:06.000 went to the adult mass to meet other and mingle with other men my initial attraction was to the

02:23:10.720 tallest guy in the room the attractive one and all the girls were kind of coming to him and i was just

02:23:14.960 kind of waiting for him to approach me or going to do something and then this guy just came out of

02:23:18.480 nowhere and made me laugh that was it just like that so i agree good times all right we have bender

02:23:24.240 the offender here priya what are the breeds of your horses my sister has two rocky mountain tennessee

02:23:29.280 walker mix and one paint i have a thoroughbred a holsteiner and a dutch warm blood all right

02:23:36.800 thank you bender the offender those are her horses all right we have tree foster

02:23:42.400 michaela you are so beautiful you're definitely higher than the five solid nine

02:23:47.120 thank you i thought so thank you that's from the trey foster thank you trey foster appreciate it

02:23:53.440 first time seeing you in the chat we have dark shinobi there's a different all caps by the way there's

02:23:58.480 a difference between personal 10 and objective 10. most people see tens in the face which is

02:24:03.920 personal but objective is a 10 you think most would agree because they have the body to match

02:24:09.280 example ash cash cash cash cash i have no idea she was a girl when viral for having like the two

02:24:18.240 different colored eyes and i think her tapes got leaked multiple times but then she turned it into a

02:24:23.600 career good social media influencer times thank you dark shinobi good to see in the chat man um yeah i

02:24:32.720 we have something related to that from doc vanables he says golden ratio one to 1.16 is the objective

02:24:41.200 standard of beauty not only across cultures but nature da vinci understood it and used it in his

02:24:47.280 paintings and exemplified by the marquardt mask attraction is a different concept and that is

02:24:54.880 what varies exactly should we all put our faces in the thing and see can you scoot your mic back

02:25:00.720 see what number everyone actually is right uh yes we should referring to we should there's probably

02:25:07.520 some app that i think there's an app that will compare you to something and there's an app that

02:25:12.480 tells you how some there probably is i'm sure yeah i hope it lies right uh mia a bunch of people have

02:25:20.000 been dming me a couple people have been dming me uh saying that you got into trouble trouble this

02:25:27.200 weekend did something happen did something happen how the hell did you know that just like a bunch of

02:25:34.880 people were dming me like during the show dark story i'm not sure if i want to get into it honestly

02:25:40.240 okay but you can ask me like surface level questions if you want do you get into what do you want to know

02:25:47.040 you got did you get into trouble or did no i didn't like i didn't get into trouble no okay but yeah

02:25:54.720 something did happen yeah you can ask me questions if you want i'll you're still in school right

02:26:01.600 i'm in the interim like so i have to apply for my phd okay did you get into legal trouble

02:26:08.880 should i just say it yeah you know the pressure's on just kidding just

02:26:14.560 i want to ask a question about it but i have no idea what this mess with getting into your program no

02:26:18.960 of course not um i didn't i wasn't aware of californian law and um there's a bit of a

02:26:25.920 domestic dispute where i had to protect myself and because of california law um just me grabbing my phone

02:26:32.880 out of someone's hand was enough to get me into trouble but the cops were very nice everyone was

02:26:40.640 very sweet and they got me out of there as quickly as possible so it was a dangerous situation for me

02:26:45.120 that's why i don't really want to talk about it sure was it in los angeles um this was in oh hi

02:26:49.440 actually oh got you out of where sorry you said got you out of where i was in jail you got you got

02:26:56.880 arrested yeah i did for for grabbing my phone out of a guy's hand who was assaulting me yes

02:27:02.720 yeah well that's the that's the rule in california i actually did not know that because in new york if

02:27:06.480 someone assaults you you can absolutely fight back but if that person is someone that you're dating and

02:27:12.720 they're hurting you in some way and you grab even if even if you braze them um the sheriff

02:27:20.560 the sheriff of the department was actually talking to me about how he hates enforcing this law

02:27:24.880 and the cops literally had to apologize to me for arresting me because they didn't want to enforce

02:27:29.200 this law because they've had to arrest men that during an argument would lay their hand on a woman's

02:27:34.240 lap and boom they would have to get arrested right there it's literally as much of a

02:27:38.000 a just a little graze wait you're dating this guy yeah it's the guy from phoenix we're not dating

02:27:45.680 anymore but wait so it's not the wait but you said you were dating two guys yes the divorcee that's

02:27:52.000 i didn't want to talk about it but hey so you're dating three guys no no no no no it was yes yes

02:27:57.840 yes not not the not the catholic guy but the other guy did he call the cops on you no no no no um

02:28:05.200 someone heard me guys this is really fucked someone heard me getting attacked and they called they

02:28:10.160 called i'm sorry thank you well we don't have to talk about it we just talked about it brian i just

02:28:17.200 literally admitted that i was in prison but okay i mean in jail yeah don't say don't say

02:28:21.680 they're very different i know i didn't i've never gotten in trouble with the law my family is from

02:28:28.240 law enforcement nypd but california law is what it is you can't fight back yeah it'll most likely

02:28:35.520 hopefully it'll get dropped right it will the cops you're not gonna the cops told me that like the

02:28:39.520 evidence i have is beyond i recorded everything so it's oh yeah that's why he was trying to grab my

02:28:45.040 phone for me it was an altercation were the police like did they witness the like altercation or

02:28:51.520 like how did that play out um can i just get into it did i just tell you lay it all out on the

02:28:57.200 table only if you feel comfortable i mean hey it's already it's already out i literally said i went to

02:29:01.680 jail so i mean like what you know what else i don't really have much to hide so um in short i told him

02:29:08.400 no and to stop touching me multiple times over the course of three days i lost sleep i wasn't doing

02:29:15.200 well i'm i was alone california no one else but just being with him and um he wouldn't respect my

02:29:22.560 nose and um uh he took it too far and i screamed for help and the cops came yeah the cops came and

02:29:30.800 since i had everything on video they saw me grab my phone from his hand because i was afraid he was i

02:29:36.720 mean we were in ojai we're in the middle of california mountains like it was very scary for me as a new

02:29:41.840 yorker through and through so um he tried to grab my phone for me and um i grabbed it back and the

02:29:49.040 cops were literally so nice here so different from the nypd the cops looked at me directly in the eyes

02:29:54.240 and said you're so sorry that we have to do this but we have to bring you in just because we saw you

02:29:59.520 grab your phone back and i was like that's my property though like i needed to record the situation

02:30:03.280 to show you guys and they're like we know like we're really sorry we're gonna process you as quickly

02:30:07.280 as possible and we're gonna get you out of here and then afterwards they came they escorted me

02:30:11.920 they made sure i was safe okay protected and have um safety afterwards and they profusely apologized to

02:30:18.000 me um so yeah that's crazy yeah little little spies brian he said that was crazy yeah sorry something

02:30:25.360 happened to him that was a few days ago are you still talking to him no absolutely not okay

02:30:30.720 okay well uh sorry to hear that you got involved with that uh situation it was actually one of what

02:30:38.080 you to what you were talking about earlier the facade of the nice guy until suddenly you don't give him

02:30:42.800 what he wants and that facade drops and it becomes dangerous and um it's unfortunate that i found myself

02:30:50.160 in that situation but i'm strong and i'll pick myself up so nicole oh devon malik donated 100

02:30:59.520 dollars doesn't that make you a prime example of why men shouldn't allow the woman they might want

02:31:04.960 to marry to date other men i'm sitting here on a tuesday and i get a phone call that the girl i might

02:31:10.640 love is in jail because she hit her other boyfriend phone oh god that's implying that i would call

02:31:18.560 another guy that i'm dating to try to bail me out of a situation that that was completely out of my

02:31:26.080 control and it's just no signs of red flags in my opinion so i don't think it's right to

02:31:33.920 to say that or make that assumption um i wouldn't you don't know who i called or what i did or how

02:31:39.280 i processed it or handled it so why don't you just keep your opinion to yourself on her behalf too i mean

02:31:44.720 don't forget the fact that this other man and question is the man that requested for them to be

02:31:49.680 seeing other people yes thank you kiko thank you and i'm also polygynous i'm also polygynous so i am

02:31:56.640 very much okay with guys dating other women and if they're okay with me dating other men i will do that

02:32:03.360 okay well thank you for sharing um so nicole let's go back you you uh the six thing come on

02:32:11.520 i was just teasing you in your dms i actually think you're higher than a six you literally just

02:32:18.000 said that's not the case doubling back don't don't uh walk back what you were saying unless you

02:32:26.240 genuinely believe it no i think you're i think no i think you're higher than a six when we're taking

02:32:31.920 into account like the full male scale right but i was just saying if we're just looking at like

02:32:38.400 cuteness factor i was like i don't know brian are you cuter than me um but on like the objective

02:32:45.360 man scale like how a woman would judge a man on the equivalent scale you're higher than a six i think

02:32:51.200 well that's the thing i feel like so that's all that was about i feel like you're trying to make

02:32:55.200 it really serious and i just feel like you would make a good look silly dm no i hit the wall so i no

02:33:02.480 men want me anymore yeah oh otherwise i'm there i'd let you maybe wear flannel and sweatpants and

02:33:09.120 i would buy my own coffee with you on our date i wouldn't even make you pay so sweet

02:33:19.680 oh i hope i left you speechless

02:33:21.680 i'm gonna pass on that but uh i'm a pass but um audi oh my god what huh what sorry i'm sorry i'm

02:33:36.400 sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry too early i don't get it i'm sorry what don't worry about it don't worry

02:33:41.440 it's too early it's too early to talk about that it's audi oh we all know what the audi is

02:33:45.920 what i don't know what is it okay i know okay no wait what something something came in i forgot

02:34:01.040 why you eat save it for after the show kiko i'm starving oh the other thing

02:34:09.040 you actually nick if you can pull up the uh one of the screenshots we have

02:34:16.320 oh that's not the one okay next one

02:34:20.640 that's not the one

02:34:24.720 yeah so on the show that you were on yeah you want we were talking about the jonah hill situation yes

02:34:31.120 and after the show you had all this smoke you wrote this whole thing about the jonah hill situation

02:34:36.720 how i guess it's controlling insecure abusive blah blah blah unfortunately when you were on the show

02:34:41.600 we didn't really hear her yeah this is my first time on the show no not an excuse but i'll read it

02:34:49.200 okay and because i couldn't get a word in while we chatted on this topic this is exactly what i wanted

02:34:55.280 to say one last thing before i go shoot i don't think it's appropriate to publicly post what she did i

02:35:01.920 i couldn't imagine doing this to someone my whole opinion is that jonah is insecure and trying to

02:35:06.960 control this control doesn't allow for freedom when one tries to control another's behavior it doesn't

02:35:12.880 work his ex was also incredibly immature in her handling of all of this i didn't see anything

02:35:18.720 that flagged would you mind speaking without a condescending tone towards me i mean this is

02:35:24.080 this is how you would speak you know that's not how this is my i don't mind you bringing this up this

02:35:29.120 is my impression of like a uh a stereotypical female okay like a valley girl i just asked something if

02:35:38.560 oh so it's okay for you to joke but when i joke it's not okay no i didn't because what you literally

02:35:44.080 just admitted to having joked about the the sixth thing okay continue on then i was just a request

02:35:50.000 but it's it's perfectly okay for you to joke around when we're speaking about my physical

02:35:55.360 appearance but if i'm facetiously making a voice oh my god then you're up in arms no you literally

02:36:03.600 you can joke around interrupted you you just interrupted me while i was reading it objecting

02:36:07.840 to the way i was kind of humorously doing a female voice i did okay okay so you can

02:36:13.840 continue on it was just a request okay okay but like so but i just joked around you know that i

02:36:22.720 don't mind being joked around with and being teased and being roasted which is precisely what i was

02:36:28.000 very milk in a very milqueto sort of way what i was doing okay i just made a request that i don't do

02:36:34.960 that you don't use that tone of voice let's continue reading it go ahead uh uh

02:36:40.320 fuck hold on let's wait till that fucking clears kahil brian is a 10 simply because he runs a podcast

02:36:45.920 like this the women of the panel please name one jesus christ thank you davon malik imagine getting

02:36:52.880 mad at me because i stated my opinion on information i didn't ask for um you're indulging in this podcast

02:37:00.720 so i mean information you didn't ask for you could turn it off wait what's this in

02:37:06.480 relationship response to what i said to when is he the one who made the comment saying that like

02:37:12.160 now she's gonna go call another man about getting out of jail and he's saying now that

02:37:18.080 oh yeah he did leave that yeah it's no we're not no one's getting mad at you i was just clearly stating

02:37:23.280 that your point is mute yeah it does it has you have no point because the man that you're concerned

02:37:30.640 about her calling is the man who wants for them not to be in a committed relationship and information

02:37:36.960 you don't want you're the one in choosing to watch this podcast about our dating lives so it is

02:37:42.400 information you wanted thank you okay let me get this one from kahil while i've got it brian is a 10

02:37:50.800 simply because he runs a podcast like this the women on the panel please name one thing you've done that

02:37:56.080 may remotely compare to everything a 10 like brian has built i mean but the the 10 thing i mean the

02:38:03.840 the rating thing is about look so i mean i don't really fact you can't really factor perhaps uh what's

02:38:11.200 the term uh like the overall picture you can say well my personality i've got a great personality so that

02:38:19.360 bumps me up a point or whatever i'm successful so but uh thank you thank you for kahil appreciate it

02:38:26.080 yeah someone else coming in on this i don't know one thing you've done that may remotely compare

02:38:32.560 to everything at 10 like i think i do that's cool i know i'm like the most hated i'm the ultimate baby

02:38:42.000 mama i'm just hated i'm in the air force pilot or just like a mechanic yep a medic in the air force

02:38:51.200 yeah okay good time med tech a nurturing military military all right that's good nailed it yeah it's

02:38:59.040 not a competition guys i mean it's not a competition i'm sure everyone here at this

02:39:03.920 panel has achieved all sorts of wonderful things kiko for example she um anyways

02:39:11.680 i'm sorry well speaking of his magnificent podcast that he has yeah what has kiko done

02:39:22.080 listen kiko has accumulated brian about six million views on his live podcast maybe another 20 plus views

02:39:30.800 on short eclipse just on his own um channels by the way not including the random promotion

02:39:39.040 that he's gone no not all the credit definitely was with the help of chase i couldn't do it without

02:39:43.360 good old chasey boy but and you're also on the michael knowles panel too i mean i was on michael

02:39:48.240 knowles i was with ali i've been on a few good ones oh we can't forget taytay i feel like that one

02:39:55.120 didn't get a lot of views it did it and i know it pissed her off so bad i know she's are you down

02:39:59.840 to box taytay if that's going to be about 10 grand she i marquavius are you still in the chat we need

02:40:06.000 i have no problem that woman will for sure beat my ass i mean first of all boxing let me not i mean

02:40:13.040 she comment you're scrappy i think you i've never been in a fight in my life i've never physically

02:40:18.400 i don't think that happens did i use that yeah that was correct scrappy i'm not a fighter i'm a

02:40:24.320 lover determined wait scrappy like boxing has weight classes determined or pugnacious one is

02:40:31.600 eager or quick to argue okay i didn't really use that in the right way i think but

02:40:36.560 okay whatever um maybe there's other definitions i don't know but are you down to boxer if marquavius

02:40:43.120 um if he funds it for 10k for sure i know she wants to fight me she's made a couple videos about

02:40:50.560 it are you down wait are you down to set up a let's i want to do a boxing event we're gonna have

02:40:57.920 madison fight who do you want to fight madison while you're back

02:41:05.360 i mean we can oh madison's gonna fight sophia kiko's gonna fight taytay what's the main event

02:41:13.120 um uh who are you beefing philly you gotta i feel like you've avoided beef right or i don't know

02:41:24.720 yes i do avoid beef okay i i try not i i oh sorry oh there he is donated 100 i'm here i boxed for 12

02:41:34.880 years i got confused you want me to box huh i don't hit women unless they beg me

02:41:41.360 um kika do you want to box a man what if he identifies as a woman

02:41:50.080 um well if we're gonna bring up that topic no i am not for trans in women's sports so

02:41:55.360 oh okay all right okay slow clap i mean i it's i feel like it's a very new topic that we've had to

02:42:03.200 explore in recent times but um i have a pretty yeah we don't at all but i have a very uh

02:42:11.920 okay that's even why before like when i think her name is deborah was going on her little spiel at

02:42:17.120 the end of one of my episodes where i last rage quit that's why i tried saying it wasn't what she

02:42:22.160 was saying that i was trying to shut down because i don't agree with her or anything there was many

02:42:25.760 points she was saying that i do agree with it was just the fact that it was 12 30 in the morning and

02:42:30.400 she was bringing up topics that we hadn't even touched on yet that cannot be discussed

02:42:34.720 which shouldn't be discussed at 12 30 because it's going to be hours long and you guys were here

02:42:39.520 for another hour after one of the morning somebody said brian versus bangs i'm totally down for that one

02:42:45.600 why i don't maybe because that would be wonderful but uh but uh it's not a backpedal

02:42:56.000 it would be kiko versus taytay one of their previous episodes they had quite a back and forth so and

02:43:04.640 she's continued to make multiple videos about it so i don't know who this person is yeah i don't

02:43:10.000 either because her she's a content creator she's a content creator hey be nice no i'm not i'm not

02:43:16.320 come on be nice to no i'm just saying like because there's been a lot of viral clips that go around

02:43:19.840 from your podcast and there hasn't been that many viral clips from that segment so not a lot of people

02:43:24.720 are like what does she create she's um pro man's emotions and feelings based yeah like and i totally

02:43:33.680 totally get it that's not my beat with her at all um i think all right so marquavius we will email you

02:43:39.440 about scheduling this boxing event um so we'll we'll we'll get a card sorted and we'll have a

02:43:48.320 a uh you know main card and whatnot you should get it promoted by zeus who the who

02:43:53.760 zeus is like a network program that has all that guy batty south and uh krishan and blue face where

02:44:03.040 their shows are sure let's pull back up that club let's get back into that all right where did i leave

02:44:10.080 off here uh third paragraph both of both of them or i don't i don't know if i want to be petty and just

02:44:17.440 continue both both of them were engaging in manipulation north of them should have

02:44:23.760 north of them should have do you know how to spell i think i was uh saying both

02:44:30.240 oh yeah neither all right that's probably what it autocorrected okay yeah yeah blame it on

02:44:37.520 north of them neither of them should have exited the relationship far before it ended it seems like

02:44:42.160 there could have been behaviors she exhibited that would make a man not want to be in a relationship

02:44:47.200 but okay the jonah the jonah leave her i don't know the purpose of her publicly posting all the text

02:44:52.080 to me it's poor taste neither of them impressed me both are in the wrong they both need to learn

02:44:56.000 what actual boundaries are uh so yeah agree with you on the first part definitely wrong of her to

02:45:01.920 fucking expose jonah with leaking the shit but you said that he was either insecure or

02:45:08.640 it wasn't actually boundaries or what's your actual position on that the conversation that day

02:45:13.920 what i what i the point that i wanted to make is there's a difference between trying to control

02:45:22.000 someone and get into this game of behavior control and setting up personal boundaries and standards

02:45:30.720 so if jonah hill was dating this woman i don't know what she was doing but if she was doing things that

02:45:40.640 before he knew her i mean so she posted bathing suit photos and stuff she was doing this before they

02:45:47.120 dated to me jonah would look at that and say well before i enter into a relationship with this woman

02:45:54.320 if she's posting these surfing photos and surfing with men that boundary could be established up front

02:46:00.720 he'd say look i really like you but these things bother me make me uncomfortable etc etc and a boundary of

02:46:08.240 mine is like i want to pursue this relationship but i can't be with a woman who does xyz and then

02:46:13.920 the woman could respond and and say hey no that's what i do and then jonah can say okay cool walk away

02:46:21.120 but what it seemed to me and i don't know the details of it but when we are reading through their

02:46:25.360 text messages it looked like this power struggle and this like manipulation from both sides and him

02:46:31.120 saying well i told you take that down and why did you do that and then she's blasting publicly to me it just

02:46:37.120 shows immaturity on both sides so i think it's important to have personal boundaries of what you

02:46:45.280 will and will not accept in a partner and what your preferences are your non-negotiables

02:46:49.840 and jonah should form a boundary and then pull himself away from the scenario

02:46:55.360 and vet a different woman so and on her end what she did

02:47:00.560 i mean no words for that but i just saw them as both in the wrong and both not functioning in a

02:47:08.080 healthy way within the relationship and so yeah so do you do you object to him for example not

02:47:15.040 wanting to her to post revealing photos i don't know she previously was posting revealing photos no i

02:47:21.520 don't object to that oh wait i don't object to him saying i am not i don't want to date a woman who

02:47:30.800 posts bikini photos okay you object to him saying it who knows how long into the relationship i think

02:47:39.600 that since it's something that she did prior to entering the relationship it's a discussion that

02:47:44.240 should be had in the beginning or as they get into it but when you read those text messages it clearly went

02:47:51.120 very far it went beyond jonah asking expressing her saying yes or no and then jonah saying you know

02:47:56.960 what she's not the woman for me her values don't align my boundaries are higher walk away like when

02:48:02.320 you look at those text messages this has been festering in their relationship becoming very very toxic

02:48:08.160 and i saw what looked to be both of them in a power struggle him trying to gain some kind of control

02:48:17.360 and her using manipulation with him and i just thought the whole thing was kind of a mess this

02:48:23.280 is a stupid conversation i mean she leaked these messages it's a personal relationship um we shouldn't

02:48:30.720 be giving any attention to her because i don't agree with anybody leaking a personal text message i think

02:48:36.000 this is just a stupid conversation to be having like who the hell cares about their text messages i agree

02:48:40.480 i just think it's a waste of time i mean we clearly we i think we can all agree it was dumb of her to

02:48:47.920 leak these messages that's a breach of his privacy so why are we giving her attention

02:48:53.840 we're doing exactly what she wants right now i think that was the entire purpose of her leaking

02:48:58.560 those text messages yeah and now we here we are on the whatever podcast talking about this girl's

02:49:03.520 messages we're giving her everything she wants it's like i don't know who she is i don't know who she is

02:49:07.840 either i never looked it up it's like kind of the same thing if you guys she leaked them for a reason

02:49:11.280 and we're doing exactly the adam levine situation like how adam levine's mistress it was really clear

02:49:18.640 that she wasn't posting about it because she felt bad that she was cheating it was because she wanted

02:49:23.440 to further her career as a social media influencer so she decided to do that sure i mean look we can um

02:49:30.080 um ignoring the specifics of their relationship and how it was uh inappropriate for her we're reading

02:49:38.400 into messages that were it's a relationship we're not even correct we don't know it's overarching okay

02:49:43.200 but but the pivot is okay well what the discussion is what are what about boundaries and relationships

02:49:50.400 is it okay for your partner to post revealing photos online what what is a boundary what is controlling

02:49:55.520 for example a lot of men don't want to date women who go out to bars and nightclubs for some men it's

02:50:00.480 a boundary of hey i don't want to date a woman who then don't so but also i think that's exactly what

02:50:08.000 jonah hill said to her but if you want to be with a man who has these types of boundaries i'm under the

02:50:13.040 impression that he'll decided to see her instagram and everything she posts and decide to start a

02:50:17.520 relationship with her sure why start a relationship with a woman who even does that to begin with there's

02:50:22.000 plenty of women who don't do that how michaela said she doesn't have she's maybe a one piece photo

02:50:26.160 he should have went and found a woman like michaela who's not posting those things why try to find a

02:50:30.080 partner to change them it might be different if i mean not even this day and age it won't even happen

02:50:35.120 but why because if she's posted because if she's posting those photos as a single woman trying to get

02:50:39.440 attention and then she's willing to stop doing that there are plenty of settles down with a man there

02:50:44.160 but i mean i haven't i is there an example we can think of of a woman who posts like that and then

02:50:50.480 gets in a relationship and decides not to it's i think it's there's a fine line between it because

02:50:55.280 it's like if she's only posting maybe something that's a little bit tempting and she realizes

02:50:59.680 out of respect for her man now that she doesn't want to do those things sure but a woman who's

02:51:04.080 consecutively almost every single post that she has is thirst trappy the odds of her getting a

02:51:09.040 relationship and stopping that cold turkey i feel like are very rare if anything we see time and time

02:51:13.840 again men being upset when their woman decides not to stop doing those things just like if you

02:51:20.080 go out if you start dating a man who's known to be very flirtatious and talk to many women

02:51:26.080 and once you guys start dating he continues to do those things are you how can you be so surprised

02:51:32.240 like he showed you who he is but okay so i mean your recommendation is is that you you're saying oh

02:51:37.520 the boundary should be expressed immediately so like let's say you're going on a first date with a

02:51:42.880 girl who has bikini photos on her instagram do you think you're really going to make a strong case on a

02:51:48.320 first date to instantly be like hey i want you to take your photos down like be honest like that's

02:51:54.320 not going to work you can only you can only make that sort of play when you have a you've built a

02:52:00.880 bit more of something a bit more of a relationship there's no way i'm going on a first date with a

02:52:06.080 girl and immediately like she's immediately going to fall into my frame of hey i don't appreciate you

02:52:11.360 having these photos out there i totally a lot of people have been brainwashed into like oh let's just

02:52:16.000 post super promiscuous photos that's totally cool blah blah blah so i mean i i agree that you

02:52:21.840 can't bring that up on a first date or in the beginning that's why you shouldn't date that woman

02:52:25.600 at all like my posts maybe some of my posts you might think is promiscuous but they're not i post

02:52:29.760 myself i'm a young woman but i have i think maybe a bikini picture from 2018 up i'm i don't post like

02:52:36.320 that so my boyfriend wouldn't have to worry about it i i agree with you on that because i feel like if you

02:52:43.840 wait until after you start a relationship with this person you're asking them to change

02:52:47.680 like how do you know they're going to do it yeah like well originally like i feel like you should

02:52:51.360 be searching for the person for me personally i'm searching for the person i want to marry

02:52:55.520 and so i don't i wouldn't ask them to immediately right off the bat change like if they're posting

02:53:00.720 revealing stuff so be it you're not the person for me kind of thing and move on like that's not

02:53:05.760 the person i would be looking for i disagree i think that people are absolutely willing to change for

02:53:10.720 people i think that what brian said about boundaries anyone who thinks that setting a boundary

02:53:16.080 the moment you meet somebody and they're just going to be like oh okay like like no way it's

02:53:21.280 never going to happen a lot of times it takes like okay put your foot down and like put it in their head

02:53:25.760 and by the way as a man who has dated women a lot of times when you do that the first reaction is

02:53:31.440 highly emotional highly defensive right because essentially when you set a boundary what are you

02:53:34.720 telling someone you did something wrong that's essentially what you're saying and maybe it's not

02:53:39.600 wrong at least it bothered me and a lot of times when you tell a woman that they bothered you they

02:53:44.880 immediately say that they are bothered by the fact that you were bothered and their feelings that

02:53:49.280 are hurt are now more important than your feelings that are hurt and another one of the big

02:53:53.680 reasons why i want to talk because i think one of the other things that you had a problem with

02:53:56.400 was just the median the medium by with he by which he set the boundary right you're like it should have

02:54:01.280 been a more just responsible in person like easy conversation where you just like sat down and

02:54:07.040 and hashed it out well i mean that's things are messy though i mean there's always the ideal of

02:54:13.120 what a conversation should look like i just saw from the limited text messages that from both directions

02:54:19.520 it was that's quite off the rails but it's also like with me and her and and i'm this isn't about

02:54:27.040 this isn't even about like setting boundaries it's like every once in a while like me and her might get

02:54:30.080 into like just like a heated back and forth and then like i'll like go to the gym or something

02:54:33.680 like that i take a second and like rather than like sitting down and being like okay like rather

02:54:38.160 than like say something that like might get her a little upset and then we have to deal with like

02:54:42.800 being upset why don't i just like think about what i want to say send a text that's like exactly

02:54:47.280 what i want what like what i wanted to say back to her and then she reads it goes oh hearts the message

02:54:53.200 i come back hey we're good now yeah cool guys will use that like written medium to just get every single

02:54:59.520 thought out before you can even have the emotional reaction to interrupt him in his chain of logical

02:55:04.880 thinking that's not to say women aren't logical you guys are still logical thinkers but you do

02:55:08.960 have a tendency to let your emotions guide the direction of the conversation so that's one of

02:55:14.480 the big reasons why guys will use this written medium to get these points across so it comes across

02:55:19.600 as like highly controlling very odd very robotic but that's just him being like you know what i've

02:55:24.560 tried to have this comment it might have been i've tried to have this conversation before

02:55:27.360 she doesn't freaking listen to me so i'm just going to spell it out and if she wants to go

02:55:31.040 she'll go she wants to say she'll stay that's as a guy i can 100 that's fair that i don't know you

02:55:37.760 but this short time that i've been sitting with you i have a feeling that however you text your

02:55:43.280 girlfriend does not look like jonah and we're also a lot further along in our relationship than they

02:55:50.000 probably so i i i understand what you're saying and i agree with what you're saying um there's just

02:55:57.200 a difference between boundaries donated 100 when you start going from initial dating to a steady

02:56:03.520 relationship it's also typically expected unless otherwise specified that the relationship be

02:56:09.840 monogamous as they become more serious about one another they should start changing their behaviors

02:56:16.480 yo raven dt thank you very much for the tts and uh just one note really quick on this and i'll let

02:56:21.120 you continue um yeah i mean prior to dating so jonah had no problem with her engaging in what he

02:56:26.240 considered single behavior i think even the text revealed that he had initially even liked one of her

02:56:33.440 surfing bikini photos whatever it may be but once they started dating he wanted her to act in a way

02:56:39.040 that he thought was consistent with her being in a relationship so what was once acceptable when

02:56:46.320 she was single or at the very beginning of the relationship soon became not acceptable when he

02:56:51.520 actually wanted to become serious and just see her have the relationship develop so and continue on

02:56:58.400 with your point i don't think i have anything else to say i'm in agreement with that um what i was in

02:57:05.120 what i was seeing in the text messages was jonah hill instead of standing like firm in a boundary and

02:57:12.080 like communicating it just from what i saw looked like it was coming from a place of him being a

02:57:19.440 little controlling um which control is just different from a boundary and i also saw on her

02:57:25.600 end she was definitely being manipulative i mean you can see that immediately but i don't i don't have

02:57:32.800 like big passionate feelings towards them i don't know them but all right yeah but i did but i wanted to

02:57:37.920 say that because i didn't get to say all right fair enough um all right we have ninja smoke house

02:57:42.720 hey thank you man i'm married now however when my wife met me i was sleeping with other women should

02:57:47.280 i still be able to she met me that way good point no people should change from doing single things

02:57:54.560 to relationship behaviors when off the market have you not changed for a boyfriend of course that's not

02:58:00.880 what i'm stating at all i just don't i think what i'm trying to say is the issue might be having is

02:58:08.400 some men find the way women act on instagram should be different in a relationship versus not where i

02:58:14.560 believe where i'm saying is most women are acting the same on instagram whether they're in a relationship

02:58:20.160 or not so like a woman who is posting can sick consecutively in a thirst trappy manner or such

02:58:27.840 is probably going to want to continue to do so and you know a woman who doesn't like it i would get if

02:58:34.560 it was she was posting a certain way and then you guys are dating and then she starts posting these more

02:58:40.560 provocative images and you're going to be like okay like you know but i just don't see how instagram

02:58:47.360 could be a detail like yeah maybe not going out and clubbing all the time yes obviously not sliding

02:58:52.640 into people's dms if she's doing that thing or responding to abundance of messages of course but

02:58:58.080 i just don't personally know any woman who change the way that they post on social media depending if

02:59:04.800 they're in a relationship or not because remember social media is forever like social media is forever

02:59:08.560 so just in case she deletes it i mean the picture is still around what makes a difference if that

02:59:12.240 bikini picture was posted last year versus now i have plenty of plenty of friends that

02:59:16.960 change the way that they behave on social media when they're in a relationship versus when they're

02:59:20.960 single and like what are they like are they what are they sure bikini ass photos like okay because

02:59:26.480 me personally i wouldn't do that in a relationship or not and i feel like even if they're not doing

02:59:31.120 like i feel like that still says something about her if she's doing that while single sure i i completely

02:59:36.480 agree that like i i wouldn't do that as well so like value wise i'm definitely different than those

02:59:41.520 women but there are definitely things how no matter how small or large that they are there are

02:59:45.600 behaviors that all of us engage in that we would do while we're single that we would not do in a

02:59:50.560 relationship and should not do in a relationship yes but i just think it's risky behavior to get

02:59:54.720 into a relationship with somebody have the time go on and then be like okay this is not what i'm

03:00:00.560 okay with like i think you have to realize there's always a chance for them to not want to do it and

03:00:05.920 that's kind of what we saw in the jonah hill situation where she didn't want to do sure but it's

03:00:09.440 completely reasonable for him to ask her not to and expect her not to because that is not

03:00:13.920 that's not behavior that aligns with being in a relationship i get your point but it's like if

03:00:19.040 that's his his views and alignment he doesn't want his woman posting that on instagram whatever

03:00:24.080 but i mean everyone still knows that that's your girlfriend that was just posting her ass two months

03:00:28.240 ago so like i if you're worried about an image and how she's portraying yourself and that's so

03:00:33.120 important to you well but you're still advertising yourself as single if you're posting bikini photos on the

03:00:37.840 internet while you're single you are instagram is the largest dating app in in the entire world

03:00:44.080 it's the largest dating online dating platform i think at the end it just boils down to the fact

03:00:47.680 that he probably didn't feel respected yeah like in our relationship granted we are in a weird situation

03:00:54.320 where i have male followers on my platform but every single thing i post whether it's a photo which i

03:01:00.640 rarely post or a video which i post every day he watches every single thing before it goes up even

03:01:06.800 stories like i run every single thing i post by him not because i'm like hey do you approve

03:01:13.440 of this post no i just everything it's just a respect thing if he doesn't like something i'm

03:01:17.760 about to post i don't post it i i get that because i've done the same thing that's not my point at all

03:01:22.480 i just my more so question is because we only we mostly see this on the male side right we don't really

03:01:29.760 see a woman dating a man that has like maybe pictures on the beach being like i want you to take

03:01:33.600 those down and stop posting i can give you the male equivalent in a second okay but it's just i

03:01:37.280 just what i my whole point is it just it is kind of weird to me maybe it's not a point but overall

03:01:44.560 question i have but how a man is comfortable with his girl posting all that before we're together

03:01:51.920 but now that they're together out of respect you don't post it anymore but like i mean if because why

03:01:56.640 she looks like a hoe i mean your girl's still known as a hoe it's because she looks single

03:02:01.360 exactly you if you're posting that while you're single i'm not saying that i encourage it but it

03:02:06.720 is quote-unquote acceptable because you are advertising yourself as single if you continue

03:02:11.920 to post those photos while you're in a in a relationship you are still advertising yourself

03:02:16.720 as though you are single okay i think that's also differences i've never like you guys say instagram

03:02:21.120 the biggest dating app in the world which i i definitely see how it is for sure but it's i've

03:02:26.480 never used my instagram single or not i've never been like i'm advertising myself sure either of my

03:02:32.720 instagram is more i mean people i don't believe it here but mine's more of like this is what i'm

03:02:37.120 doing this is what i'm up to this is my life i've never been like oh i'm gonna post this because

03:02:41.440 this is like sexy single like they're gonna see me so i guess that's why my mind is a little bit

03:02:46.240 more different because i don't think of social media in that way no absolutely i don't either

03:02:51.600 because like if i want to post a bikini picture it's not because i'm like oh i'm looking sexy and

03:02:54.640 i want to post this it's because i was at the beach i live at california i go to the beach every single

03:02:59.040 day almost i spend a lot of my time here so sure and like there's a difference between posting like

03:03:04.000 a group photo of you and your friends at the beach versus you posing in like a promiscuous pose and

03:03:10.080 posting that on social media when you're like me going like like you know i'm smiling whatever from the

03:03:14.240 front but yeah from when he turned around martin donated 100 thank you ladies follow this advice

03:03:21.440 and win date someone a bit older than you yeah ensure that your core beliefs are aligned religion

03:03:28.320 family etc if he's the right man you'll gladly acquiesce to his frame but most men are weak losers

03:03:36.720 more for brian than me uh thank you marquavius um date wait someone will ensure that your core

03:03:46.960 release oh that's good if he's the right man do you mind if i say something i personally i i don't

03:03:53.680 disagree with dating older personally i would not because i feel like you're missing out on a lot of

03:03:58.640 life experiences with that person and personally like i want to be broke in our 20s together eating ramen

03:04:06.160 like i think i don't think it's quote unquote fun but it's an experience of growing together

03:04:11.440 and that may be a personal value i have of mine but i definitely don't see where that be beneficial

03:04:16.560 for all women i think if you go in with that mentality it forces you to grow up faster i think

03:04:20.960 that's the other thing a lot of people think like you find the person and now you are who you are

03:04:26.000 if you go into it thinking like we could actually create something very very unique and powerful

03:04:30.800 together i felt like i wish that i like i wish that i dated differently when i was younger i was

03:04:36.560 kind of brainwashed the same way that i said a lot of women the way you said a lot of women were earlier

03:04:41.040 like i didn't have like like i always i think i kind of always knew that i wanted to find a wife

03:04:46.560 and get married but i was like i can wait like i should become a certain type of man i should do this

03:04:51.200 like i do believe that the advice to men to focus on yourselves and turn yourself into a more

03:04:58.160 desirable option more of a high value man can certainly benefit you in the modern dating world

03:05:04.000 but i think that if men could separate from the end goal and more key in on the characteristics that

03:05:14.000 get you to be a high value man they could get develop those characteristics between the ages of

03:05:18.800 like 16 to 22 and then they will be able to latch on sorry they'll be able to find a girl at that age

03:05:28.160 and they will be able to stimulate her they'll be able to attract her because she will see the

03:05:31.760 ambition and she will see the potential that is definitely something that can happen but men need

03:05:36.720 to start focusing in on those characteristics rather than just abandoning dating altogether and

03:05:42.400 thinking i'm just going to use the characteristics to get to age 30 and then and then find my my special

03:05:46.640 someone you said that you had something in response to kiko the the uh male version was it yeah and

03:05:52.880 the conversation steered a little bit differently so now it's not quite the direct comparison but i do think this

03:05:58.000 is an important thing to bring up i think there there's a very very like direct core a direct

03:06:07.360 parallel that you can draw between women's upset women's obsession with social media and men's

03:06:12.320 obsession with porn i think that when you really break it down the currencies you hear this all the

03:06:17.280 time the currency for women is attention the currency for men is sex right and if you wanted to just put

03:06:22.880 it into a very very simple parallel if a man was was like watching a lot of porn when he was single

03:06:30.000 because he just wasn't getting laid all that often he needed to like get off satisfy himself

03:06:34.640 um and then he got together with you and he was just like yeah i'm just going to keep watching a lot

03:06:38.560 of porn i'm going to keep just like doing that you would probably find that to be weird okay so i mean

03:06:45.360 i i'm not trying to be argumentative sake but my response to that would be i would never date a man

03:06:52.320 who walked consumes a lot of porn to begin with so i wouldn't have that problem okay but why are men

03:06:58.560 consuming porn it's because they're not getting laid so when he starts getting laid first of all he's

03:07:05.760 probably going to think to himself i don't need porn as much because now i can get off having sex or

03:07:11.440 through some other form of intercourse and he's going to think to himself i should probably just

03:07:16.400 stop doing this for my partner i should start acting like a man who's in a relationship and not

03:07:22.160 you know going to wherever i go to like open up my laptop and just pleasure myself i mean i've

03:07:27.520 literally out of my long-term relationships i i know when they say that they're not lying they don't

03:07:33.200 watch porn they were never porn consumers to begin with i don't find i'm not really usually attracted to

03:07:39.520 men who do not saying that's i mean i am saying it could be a bad thing to over consume but not

03:07:45.680 is a problem with men the over consumption of porn but there's not all men obviously that over consume

03:07:50.880 porn but if i did have that issue i do see your overarching point um that's kind of like what my

03:07:57.120 response is like i feel like you could just not have to worry about this if you just don't

03:08:01.520 date someone who's doing that okay so do you think that like um porn in general for men like

03:08:12.320 like oh sorry um like who determines uh the value of porn like who the consumer right right right so

03:08:23.840 are you i'm just confused on what you're saying so you're saying that like

03:08:26.240 like can you elaborate on what you're saying no what i'm saying is men go to porn to satisfy

03:08:33.520 their like innate mating need their lack of their lack of sex their sexual desire women go to social

03:08:41.200 media to get the attention from men it's like the very very cycle that feeds itself yes women are

03:08:47.760 seeking attention so that they then have an opportunity with the man who they're trying to

03:08:51.920 get the attention from men are looking for sex but what would you say about the women that have

03:08:56.960 like only fans or porn hub or something like that that like all of in the comments basically just a

03:09:01.760 bunch of quote unquote simps like those aren't men that high value men that like women actually want

03:09:08.000 those are men those are men that like they would want to take advantage of and take money from

03:09:12.000 um wait what i'm gonna stomp that out right there okay because i do only fans and i'm gonna tell you

03:09:18.160 right now that i have simps that you guys would quote unquote call them simps but i like them i have

03:09:25.920 genuine stop the cap they're paying you no i have relationships with most of these guys before they

03:09:32.080 even pay me define relationships yeah you know what i mean like friendships you know what i mean like

03:09:37.440 i know these people they're not friends if they want to see you naked they desire they desire you

03:09:42.720 from afar you find that hard to believe truly that they're not friends with me just because

03:09:47.120 i mean that's extremely true because as a woman you probably had multiple friends that are

03:09:52.720 friends that are men men and definitely want to see you they definitely want to see you naked but

03:09:56.640 i would still consider them a friend even if that was their i mean that's crazy to say just

03:10:01.040 because somebody wants to know but by definition you're not friends

03:10:03.760 girl if you're not a girl if i had a male friend that subscribed if i made it only

03:10:09.840 i'm not saying never what i would never not your statement was he's not your friend if he wants to

03:10:16.400 see you naked but i'm saying if you're an attractive woman that has male friends there's a good chance

03:10:22.640 that even if you're still your true friend they want to see you naked i agree with that statement but

03:10:27.120 we're talking about somebody in the event that they have a paid platform where they can literally

03:10:31.600 subscribe and pay to see you naked i would never ever ever if in some random world i had that

03:10:38.480 sort of platform i would never be friends with somebody that would subscribe to something like

03:10:42.560 that i'm just saying your friend no i'm just saying i think you're completely wrong i wasn't talking

03:10:47.200 about the overall thing yeah i think you're just like a fantasy from afar if they're asking they're

03:10:52.560 paying you ten dollars you got you have to realize that a lot of these people like i come from a small

03:10:58.160 area okay they could subscribe to anybody else on only fans i guess they could right but i guess

03:11:04.400 they're putting money in my pocket instead right well a lot of the appeal of only fans too is like

03:11:08.960 why these women do so well their first month and then like don't do well anymore is because a lot of

03:11:14.320 men who've known them their whole life wanted to subscribe in the beginning just to see like

03:11:18.880 this girl they've known their whole life they have a chance to see them naked it is a big it does

03:11:22.960 happen a lot yes doesn't that just prove her point yeah that it's not friendship that it's not

03:11:30.240 friendship definitionally that's not this is the depth that you want to talk about nice guy no that

03:11:33.760 is the longest nice guy yes yes yes i'm literally just pointing out her like individual statements

03:11:41.040 that she's saying not the actual thing of what she's talking about is just how statements can get

03:11:45.520 construed it is what i'm saying no it's not about whether or not he's allowed to be your friend

03:11:50.720 like you can i'll say it like you can think that he's your friend and he will treat you with respect

03:11:57.680 he'll be nice to you he'll be kind to you he'll do things for you he might even like confide in you

03:12:02.320 allow you to confide in him but the moment the moment that you were like i want something more

03:12:08.800 let's let's have sex do you have sex with your friends i have then they're not friends

03:12:15.520 friendship is platonic i consider friends with benefits okay though so you guys probably don't

03:12:20.560 see things on that same level you're probably not in the same views as i have so okay so like let's

03:12:27.760 just say that you were let's just say that you were like dating like you are dating a guy right now

03:12:33.120 right like you're dating a guy right now if you had these like male friendships like friendships

03:12:41.920 with guys who like subscribe to you like actually intimately desire you they're like they're they're

03:12:48.480 admitting that like and they're able to see you naked right like like how like how does he feel

03:12:54.880 knowing that there are like other men that you would consider to be like close intimate relationships he's

03:13:00.000 on it also he's not my only fans with me well oh okay what my partner's on my only fans with me

03:13:08.480 he makes content with her he is also a sex worker wow this is like the most full circle

03:13:18.000 i'm just saying like you know like good times and that's like the whole point when it brings up like

03:13:23.920 so you're find someone who's for you like meet someone with the same values as you things same

03:13:30.000 things you're comfortable with that's the whole thing that was not the point of the conversation

03:13:33.200 though the point of the conversation was whether the men on your only fans can be your friends or

03:13:37.120 not and friendship is platonic by definition therefore they cannot be your friends because

03:13:41.280 you're an object of desire and sexual affection that's just how it works i find that hard to believe

03:13:46.080 but well it's the truth agree disagree i think you're wrong you think i'm wrong so agree disagree

03:13:52.240 i think they can value you but only to a certain extent are they in person like do you know these

03:13:57.040 guys in person or some of us do the guys in person that are your friends pay you for nudes sometimes yes

03:14:05.040 no comment i withdraw zero zero comment i quit you rest your case i rest my case all right fair

03:14:12.320 enough not much to say sort of taking it back to uh this thing about the the differences between men and

03:14:19.600 women you cold now can you close actually i don't have a lot of caffeine i've been drinking like three

03:14:26.960 celsius since i've been here i have something from a twitter account unfortunately i can't say the name

03:14:33.840 because it's a little bit uh you know a little bit haram so um but it relates to our discussions of

03:14:41.280 kind of the posting revealing photos on instagram but more precisely uh men not wanting their partners

03:14:48.640 going out to bars and clubs and parties and whatnot so and you more often hear you more often hear men

03:14:56.160 objecting to their partners going out to nightclubs bars etc etc at least for me personally i would not

03:15:02.880 want to uh i would not take a woman seriously who goes out to bars and clubs and parties the difference is

03:15:09.120 is that women run passive game and this is i'm crediting this to uh let's just say ldg on twitter

03:15:17.280 they don't approach men but they put themselves in positions where they could be approached by men

03:15:22.720 clubs for example they won't dm a man but they'll post a picture to lure him into dming them so this

03:15:28.000 comes back to our topic of you know the revealing photos right mainstream media doesn't want you to know

03:15:33.280 this men are salesmen women are marketers but most guys are too naive and lack the capacity for

03:15:38.480 nuanced thinking to be able to identify this distinction in a committed relationship a man

03:15:44.000 should stop pitching and a woman should stop advertising so fair proposition so advertising

03:15:51.120 posting revealing photos on instagram going to the nightclub bar etc but most men are fooled into

03:15:56.080 believing that just because their woman isn't also initiating conversations with other men that

03:16:01.520 everything is good she was never initiating conversations to begin with that's not how she operates

03:16:06.400 we utilize different strategies to get similar outcomes as a guy you stop talking to women you

03:16:12.560 gave up your edge but she never stopped putting herself out there that's why she already had a

03:16:17.360 replacement for you after the breakup because she never stopped marketing she was generating leads

03:16:21.920 the whole time uh and then there's a bit more about he's making an analogy when it comes to rhinos and

03:16:27.280 stuff um i that makes sense yeah uh so yeah

03:16:36.960 does it make sense kind of i i see the comparison i get what they're getting at and that definitely

03:16:43.360 is something i see how it happens and that's for some people but yeah i guess

03:16:49.280 because like it doesn't matter to me it doesn't the amount i post does not change if i'm single or not like

03:16:55.360 what i post doesn't change if i'm single or not because i guess i'm not posting things to begin with

03:17:02.560 that are single activity and like yes you're saying like we're advertising ourselves but i know

03:17:07.600 like pull up your instagram kiko go for it all right but the like worst part of my night and my

03:17:12.800 friends nights if we do go out like when we would go out is men approaching us that's probably the

03:17:17.760 worst part of your nights i i don't go out i don't have any friends either i actually know i won't

03:17:22.640 say any why do you have so many cups on the table by the way i'm just jesus christ why are there so

03:17:27.360 many cups on the table fuck okay um sorry continue um i do have some friends that you know are more

03:17:36.480 fast as we would call them that will talk to men like 304 you guys would call it um but no like i

03:17:45.840 i i'm not going out for men to talk to me i'm going out because maybe i want to have a drink and

03:17:52.080 dance and listen to some good music and talk to my friends well you have a you have a boyfriend right

03:17:56.320 now but what about when you're single yes i don't enjoy men coming up to me and talking to me when

03:18:04.080 i'm out your boyfriend i met him when i was working at the bar at my the bar i work at i was working

03:18:09.120 though he approached you you just said you don't like it when men do that i don't

03:18:13.440 but that's how you met your current boyfriend or you're now going to marry or you want to marry

03:18:17.680 yeah how do you want men to approach you then they i'm not saying i don't i really don't know

03:18:22.640 i don't think there's any one concise way i guess my boyfriend how he did it i was working he came up

03:18:27.360 to my bar came to me he said hey how you doing um he got a drink and he was like told me if i'm

03:18:32.240 really attractive and he asked for my phone number i told him i don't give out my phone number uh um my

03:18:37.680 job you have my instagram he is he sent me a message on instagram hey how about that number

03:18:44.080 gave him my number we started talking from there wait hold on will that work for everybody no that

03:18:48.880 won't work for everybody he's a very attractive man so it worked for him should we have him on

03:18:52.320 the podcast you think he'd be down um he would be he would i i don't know how that will go though

03:18:59.040 what would he beat me up or something no don't um no you don't disrespect me um

03:19:05.120 um he we are very different yeah we should we should have him on you down ask him if he's down

03:19:13.280 ask him if he's down i don't know no please let's do it let's do it honestly because we watch whatever

03:19:20.000 no like i don't like i'm not a confrontational person that's kind of like how we work we we disagree

03:19:25.600 on a lot of things because i am okay with not being right i know the comments don't agree with

03:19:33.200 that but on my normal life i'm fine with not being okay with everything i'm fine with like

03:19:38.000 agreeing to disagree or walking away with him thinking you know that he's right and above all

03:19:42.160 but on here we're supposed to discuss things further and we do good on our own but i don't want

03:19:51.760 outside things to affect our relationship wait so one question bringing it back to the whole like

03:19:56.720 approaching thing right so you said that you don't like it when men approach you when you're out

03:20:03.200 partying or whatever just other girls here very nagging other girls here at the table like if you're

03:20:08.320 at the bar let's assume you're single you're at the bar like do you generally you dislike it when

03:20:13.120 men approach you in these environments just here we'll go around the table really quick quick answer

03:20:20.240 i don't drink i smoke weed okay can you repeat the question do you like when men approach you

03:20:26.640 yeah of course okay no yes you sorry so you like it or you you like it when men approach you or you

03:20:34.800 dislike it when men approach you i like it you like it okay you like it if it's in a tasteful manner

03:20:42.560 yeah sure billy i mean i never put myself in a situation when i was sorry i never put myself in a

03:20:48.800 situation when i was single to have a guy approach me in a bar or a club because i just didn't go to

03:20:54.880 them um so i would get approached at a grocery store and if it was done in the right way then

03:20:59.840 that's fine with me okay so some different answers there i i feel like a lot of women though

03:21:05.520 who might complain about all these men it's so annoying they approach me surroundings you're

03:21:11.760 gonna find well this is in response to everybody but not just you but go ahead i think you're going

03:21:16.400 to find if you're in a club you're you're most likely going to get a drunk man approaching you

03:21:21.680 and it's probably not going to be done in the most tasteful manner so that's probably why a lot

03:21:25.120 of girls are turned off by it because that's where they're being approached most you are most likely

03:21:29.280 to have success picking up a girl if you pick her up in a way where her anxiety is low that is like

03:21:35.120 can we all agree with that yes okay that's why i always encourage guys to utilize day game as it's

03:21:41.280 known like i tell guys hey you have a dog pick girls over the dog park it's a great place coffee shops

03:21:46.480 like hey do you know the wi-fi password easy conversation starter little things like that

03:21:50.400 but i want to just bring this back a little bit to what you were saying because you're like when you

03:21:56.080 go out you don't like when guys approach you and then you i asked you how do you want guys to

03:22:01.360 approach you so you whenever you're out and you i mean basically the only time that a guy can approach

03:22:09.600 you is when you're out of the house right like unless he breaks in and is like dating right so

03:22:14.800 another problem so so like what's your ideal scenario because i mean it's probably not approaching you at

03:22:22.320 work either you're busy so like what's your ideal scenario that's why i i will agree that it is in

03:22:28.320 that sense it's not really making i'm not making it easy for men in that way um maybe that's why i

03:22:37.280 i don't know it's just it is hard to be tastefully done it is a tricky thing to do it does help when

03:22:43.920 you're more attractive but there's even been attractive men who approach me and i'm still like

03:22:46.800 like i'm just not in the mood to discuss or talk so i can't really give a clear answer for that

03:22:52.640 i guess it's because kind of like how i grew up and i feel like a lot of people grew up before this

03:22:56.880 social media and like we have so many options nowadays is you dated people who you already

03:23:03.200 knew so it wasn't about approaching it was about we have similar friends we come from the same area so

03:23:10.960 we've met before so it's not really like like it's not like i'm meeting you for the first time

03:23:17.840 you see me i'm attracted to you you come up across to me and you pitch to me i nine times out of ten

03:23:22.480 i'm not gonna like that so that's why usually it was dating people from knowing their family growing

03:23:28.320 up around them yeah i don't want this to come across like i'm attacking i promise you i'm not

03:23:32.640 like so so what you're talking about right now is one of the biggest frustrations for men and dating

03:23:39.760 like um you you posed again another q a you asked guys what are your biggest fears approaching women

03:23:47.520 what were the predominant things that came back i mean it was just rejection um judgment on his

03:23:54.320 appearance um creepy yeah well that's one thing i could say though and and i will if a man comes up

03:24:02.880 to me i'm never like ew get away from me i'm not gonna talk to you some girls are yeah i never said

03:24:08.400 they weren't i'm saying we're talking about me though personally even though i don't like for

03:24:11.520 men to approach me i've never once been like ew get away from me or been rude of the sorts if

03:24:16.400 i'm in a relationship i'll just quickly be like oh i'm so sorry kind of see where you're going with

03:24:20.160 this i am in a relationship or when i was single i would be like oh i'm so sorry i'm not interested

03:24:24.640 in dating right now or i would just lie and say i am in a relationship make it really sweet short

03:24:29.280 nothing i would never attack them that's two different things so you're saying that it's like nagging

03:24:36.080 it's annoying would you also agree though that it's necessary i i i do see how they have to yeah

03:24:42.160 they have to shoot their shot they have to get out there in some form so i'm not saying i'm that's

03:24:45.440 why i'm not i have not said don't do it i haven't advocated for men to not approach women i'm just

03:24:51.680 saying personally i don't like it because right now they're hearing you and like like look but they're

03:24:56.320 hearing me but all every single i think only maddie was the only one who said that i will say i feel

03:25:00.240 like they all said they like it like the setting matters say like you're in a club like billy said like

03:25:05.280 mostly it's going to be drunk men that are approaching you i i don't necessarily like

03:25:10.560 being in like okay well i'm like 18 but like if i were in a bar or club mr underscore casey

03:25:16.400 undiscoordinated one hundred dollars and sixty nine cents kiko it concerns me that you wouldn't want

03:25:23.120 to invite your bf on the pod sounds like that you are scared that what you're saying is not well

03:25:28.480 thought out and your bf wouldn't want to ruin his reputation for agreeing with delusion i mean regardless

03:25:34.560 if he's on here or not we're still dating so like that has negates the whole thing he watches the

03:25:39.440 episodes we still discuss it that's not what i'm concerned about i know we can have logical

03:25:45.600 debates and discussions where we disagree just us two i don't want to bring us on this podcast where

03:25:51.120 there's 10 other people sitting here and a whole panel and tts where they could start saying things and

03:25:57.280 emotions can start rising where you were we could start feeling a type of way that we wouldn't that we

03:26:03.760 aren't necessarily causing each other but outside factors like i feel like that's a very you just

03:26:09.600 don't think this environment is healthy for the relationship yeah maybe when we're longer in but

03:26:13.120 we're only seven months in we already have a lot of healthy debates as it is i don't think you want

03:26:18.800 to throw in too much controversy into relationship this early on brian can i ask you a question sure um

03:26:26.720 you know how you said that like you wouldn't date a girl that goes out to clubs or bars or anything like

03:26:31.120 that yeah what about if she lives in like a metropolitan like city area where like everything

03:26:35.360 is a bar and she just like eats out by herself and like that's a bar setting do you know what

03:26:41.200 i mean like i feel like context matters if you're going out to a nightclub in like the middle of

03:26:45.920 middle america that is like making an like an effort to like go out be seen be noticed but if you're in

03:26:52.960 like new york the like the bar is right next to your apartment you're going to go there for food you're

03:26:57.200 going to go there for like a drink maybe by yourself you're not necessarily putting yourself

03:27:01.360 out there it just has to do with the fact that you live in a metropolitan area so i've never been to

03:27:04.880 like a stereotypical like nightclub with like sparklers and uh all of that i don't know but like

03:27:11.840 some people would consider a club like a bar that plays music and has like a small room for dancing

03:27:16.720 that fits like 25 people so like where do you draw the line on that

03:27:20.720 there's no such thing as restaurants no but like like most of the restaurants yeah but you're saying

03:27:28.480 oh if you're in a if you're in new york you're in a metropolitan city you must if you you have to go

03:27:35.200 to a bar well yeah well because yeah because most bars in new york there are right there's restaurants

03:27:41.280 you know of course you mentioned going to eat have you heard of a restaurant of course but like there's

03:27:47.840 restaurants i know but in new york like it's always like a bar restaurant it's always like the same

03:27:51.920 is it just sit at a table is chipotle is there a bar at chipotle in new york well i to be fair i don't

03:27:56.880 eat fast food but hold on hold on how dare you defame chipotle i demand an apology i apologize to

03:28:04.880 chipotle i'm sorry um i mean you're talking about somebody engages in partying behavior it's like

03:28:11.840 party behavior like if she's getting if it's 3 p.m or i don't know lunch that's what i'm saying

03:28:18.880 she goes and the bar happens to double as a restaurant and she's getting food i don't have

03:28:26.160 that's not an issue that that creates conflict right because there is a setting where people

03:28:29.760 are getting drunk and there's like at for lunch it's new york i think this is fairly self-evident

03:28:35.600 like priya hit on it it's it's when a woman demonstrates party like yes like consistent

03:28:42.720 attention-seeking honestly like sexualized mainly behavior and we all know what that looks like yeah

03:28:51.920 it's very black and white it's not there's not a large gray area that steps in i disagree because

03:28:57.120 like i i can sit at a restaurant like that's a bar restaurant outside that's not engaging and partying

03:29:01.840 like behavior okay i was in new york recently by myself when we were dating and i i could not find

03:29:08.400 a place to eat so i walked into a place i i was texting you i had nowhere to eat and it was in

03:29:14.240 times square and i walked in the only spot was at the bar so i sat at the bar i ate my chicken and then

03:29:20.160 i left that's what i'm talking about i that's why i was yeah but that's that was the question guys

03:29:24.960 that was the question about where the boundary is drawn like that was the whole point this is exactly

03:29:29.040 what he's saying but this is what he's saying it's okay it's okay if you're just going there

03:29:33.360 to get food and not getting up i just went to get food and and that was it yeah and you would agree

03:29:37.600 but how do you distinguish intention like what if you're eating at night was what i did okay what's

03:29:41.920 the intent i don't know what time i'm pretty sure dinner is also very acceptable people have to eat but

03:29:48.880 if you're going out and whether it's by yourself or with a group of people if you're out there partying

03:29:55.120 with a bunch of your girlfriends regardless that is partying behavior it's not black and white if

03:30:00.240 you're going to go get food no matter what time of day it is and you just go eat you might have a

03:30:06.160 conversation with somebody and then you leave that's not but the point is is that that's still

03:30:09.920 considered a bar and men can still approach you so like that's why i was saying partaking in the

03:30:14.480 bar culture yes to be fair when you asked that question i was thinking more on the lines of that

03:30:20.560 because i don't party but i do go to bar to eat bar food right and like maybe drink that's fine

03:30:25.200 that's what i'm saying that's totally fine it's more so like the intention right that was my question

03:30:29.840 are you going out with your girlfriends getting lit that's what i was saying drinking also how

03:30:33.680 frequently are you going to the bar and are you just posting up there by yourself how frequently

03:30:39.920 are men approaching you there how are you dressed when you go there like yeah like these are things

03:30:44.800 again it's sexualizing yourself and to quote what is it uh ldg like to quote him i don't want to say i

03:30:53.120 saw it um marketing yourself how are you marketing yourself that's really it by the way quick note um

03:31:02.320 next person there's a banana here uh the next tts say a name they have to eat the banana okay um i'm

03:31:10.720 severely allergic to bananas come on i swear to god really oh i literally have my epi pen in my

03:31:17.600 purse right now i'm allergic to a lot of things so you're prepared to eat the no i'm kidding

03:31:22.160 if you don't want to take me to cottage then no i will actually that'd be pretty good content so if

03:31:26.720 they say your name oh my god that's the main event keekoverse banana there you go

03:31:33.600 wait do you have an epi pen where where do you put it in my thigh okay here let's do this okay

03:31:39.440 oh my god can you go get it from your purse and just put it on the table just for liability

03:31:46.640 purposes what epi pen yourself can i just say the whole chat has thought you were uncomfortably

03:31:56.160 rubbing my shoulder the whole time his arm his arm is not touching it's on the chair it's on the chair

03:32:02.000 i just want to clear that up it's been being said for the past three hours they're also boyfriend and

03:32:07.440 girlfriend yeah so is that your epi pen yes it does look weird wow she literally asks me to rub her

03:32:13.360 back 24 7 so it wouldn't even be weird yellow and honestly if i okay here's the thing though

03:32:20.480 you can only you can only use the epi pen after a subsequent tts so we have to see you basically

03:32:28.640 die basically dot yes until the next one comes anything for the content that is the new game

03:32:36.400 boy by the way uh let's pull up the twitch twitch and then we'll pull up kiko's oh raven dt donated

03:32:43.600 100 we are discussing boundaries in relationships not drafting federal legislation if you are dressed for

03:32:51.840 a nightclub and going out with to dance and show off your body in a party type environment where

03:32:57.440 alcohol is consumed in mass quantities that's bad yeah and we we have those kind we have those here in

03:33:04.720 santa barbara like a lot of places that are restaurants during the day uh they're bars at night

03:33:10.480 so like i don't know if that's where you work is kind of like that we closed our kitchen but yeah but you

03:33:16.240 know where i used to work yeah sandbar like it's very common here on say a lot of places do a lot

03:33:21.360 of places do that scheme so we have that here too so it's like i have a question for you guys like

03:33:26.080 okay so my god this becky um so like saturday for example or friday i think it's friday or saturday

03:33:36.080 whatever uh martin donated one hundred dollars brian have a great idea for live streaming i'll

03:33:45.280 fly in on the jet pick you priya and your girl up fly anywhere you'll want in the u.s to eat record

03:33:53.600 everything you'll have to wear real pants they won't let you in the restaurant otherwise keep

03:34:00.240 cook up but he just said brian first didn't they yeah wait but he no i mean obviously it's a dress

03:34:07.760 that can go like wait like how bad would it be my throat will close in about like you have

03:34:16.080 maybe like a minute and 30 seconds that's six million boy in my thigh that's six million would

03:34:20.880 be 12 is that good content we're gonna be what if you get all of the ad revenue oh if i wait question

03:34:30.240 kiko question if i peeled the banana and i just like chucked it at you and it hit you in like the

03:34:39.040 face huh would you would you have an allergic reaction from that or do you have to like consume

03:34:44.560 i would never do that that is a very good question because skin contact like i'm allergic to a lot of

03:34:50.160 things but the reason why i'm allergic to bananas is like an uh oral aller pollen allergy so i'm allergic

03:34:57.280 to different fruits and foods depending on the season due to the pollen that they're surrounded

03:35:02.480 by so i don't know it might give me like hives or something actually if it was since i'm allergic to the

03:35:09.920 pollen content itself i don't know i i've only had these allergies for like four years it's been terrible

03:35:15.840 okay all right oh anyways back to my question all right yeah what was your question it's about the

03:35:22.240 topic we had beforehand um so on friday night i had a day off night off from work so me my boyfriend

03:35:29.520 wanted to go out and get some drinks dancing whatever it's what we enjoy to do technically

03:35:34.160 kind of how we met so martin donated 100 yeah thank you mark 30 seconds is a lifetime eat up i'm sure

03:35:43.760 you'll be fine you have a med tech on the panel air force by the way maybe if you like would have

03:35:49.440 followed the directions in the first place and not said brian's name first and said mine

03:35:54.400 we could have technicality anyways so we were gonna get dressed up we're gonna go out on friday

03:36:00.000 night i don't have ever said it before but my boyfriend has an identical twin brother that's

03:36:04.560 dating my best friend he's out of town he was out of town for the moment she came up we also are

03:36:10.000 across the street neighbors so my best friend i came over when we were getting ready after work

03:36:13.680 and she was like oh i kind of want to go out too like i'm bored i have nothing to do because her

03:36:17.360 boyfriend's um and at their parents house she got dressed up with us my boyfriend wasn't feeling

03:36:23.120 that good anymore his stomach was starting to hurt so he was saying he was like honestly i don't really

03:36:28.240 want to go since devonna wants to go now do you guys just want to go he was going to allow me to go

03:36:35.840 to technically bars clubs with my friend um far as what i was wearing i was technically i think wearing

03:36:42.000 like a different version of this body suit basically like same jeans like this and some like kitten heels

03:36:48.400 would that do you guys see that as a huge problem if i were to do something like that he did end up

03:36:54.560 going we all end up going together by the way for a good point but martin donated 100 kiko no one

03:37:02.640 cares about your story tell us about yourself priya by the way marquavius um yeah i don't think

03:37:10.240 we're going to press kiko too much on the banana thing so if you want to uh i did not sign a waiver

03:37:15.040 for that if so yeah there's some liability there probably um if uh you want to uh have someone

03:37:22.400 else do it i suppose he wants you to speak about yourself priya do you want to any safaris planned oh

03:37:31.680 valdev donated 100 thank you man real contest cute cuban eat banana to alabama what them marksman

03:37:39.440 scores wait what are the what are your marksman scores i guess shooting guns oh oh i almost made

03:37:48.480 marksman i was off by like what closer to i was off by like uh like one or so maybe two nice uh cuban

03:37:57.440 is that is that you you're puerto rican i'm puerto rican yeah uh i believe he's talking about you

03:38:03.440 though so wait what happened here you're supposed to eat it looks it looks a little at the bottom it

03:38:08.560 doesn't look great so i guess just the top that's what she said great just just yeah all right there

03:38:15.040 you go mark way what was that who said that who why a banana i don't like billy think about it i know

03:38:24.320 i know that but really i know what do you mean same reason why they don't want to cover our face

03:38:30.880 you're not in favor of the banana billy look billy doesn't like she's not amused

03:38:35.600 okay so and again this might be an unpopular opinion amongst what else and i don't say radical

03:38:51.920 to be offensive i mean radical in the literal sense of being like very radical in your beliefs right

03:38:56.080 very strict very principled um i the the situation that you just laid out like first of all

03:39:05.600 that's his preference yeah that's his boundary he has a level of trust with you and he also

03:39:12.320 probably recognizes that you wanted him to come out but now it was more about okay well now i'm now

03:39:17.520 she wants to go out i don't want her to have to go out i don't want to say no because then she's

03:39:21.280 going to say no right yeah so if he wants to do that and he wants to allow you to do that that's

03:39:27.120 fine that's his prerogative some guys might feel very uncomfortable with that would you be

03:39:31.040 uncomfortable with that so like the exact same scenario like say she she was getting ready

03:39:35.840 she already has her makeup hair everything done and then last minute you're like i don't think i

03:39:40.160 really want to go anymore but she still has her friends with her in particular absolutely not

03:39:43.600 because if she because every time that she has either been invited to go out and do something with

03:39:48.960 our friends in florida um she basically looks at me and says like are you okay if i go with me going

03:39:55.280 out but where have i gone out like no just just occasionally you'll go to like beach drive or

03:39:59.200 something like that like very rarely like it's extremely rare but like but this is i went to a

03:40:07.040 self-defense class that was the last that was the last time she went out and did something without me

03:40:11.040 with like her girlfriend she went did a self-defense class but anyways i don't know i think that that's an

03:40:16.960 it's like an incredibly nuanced like thing where like would it be an uncomfortable situation as a guy

03:40:24.400 it's not the most comfortable situation because you're not there to keep your keep an eye on your

03:40:29.200 girl who you know men are going to be objectifying probably pursuing probably chasing that makes it

03:40:34.560 uncomfortable but at a certain point like you gotta trust your girl to say no that's so yeah and you

03:40:41.200 can't control that in like everyday situations right that's where i was getting at because i feel like

03:40:46.720 that's healthy you know to have that like you know it's not so black and white all the time because

03:40:51.760 honestly if i would have come to him like i want to go out with devonna friday by myself without you

03:40:55.600 he would have been like you're losing it's also it's also pattern recognition like have you done it

03:41:01.200 one time and what was the timing of it like like did we just have a fight yeah you know what i mean

03:41:06.000 like girls will weaponize this stuff that's that that's one of the big things it's pattern recognition

03:41:10.880 so like if she gets invited out by somebody and it's just completely random i'm gonna be like yeah

03:41:18.560 of course you can go out like i know i know where you're going it's very very close i know the

03:41:22.480 people that's fine um but if it's like okay you've asked this week okay now the next week comes you're

03:41:29.040 asking again okay now it's been three weeks in a row after months and months and months of you never

03:41:33.760 wanting to go that's something now it's pattern recognition it's like hey can we talk about this

03:41:38.720 like why do you want to go out again like that's what guys need to get better at like it's not

03:41:43.600 necessarily like the boundary is good the concept the concept and the principle of women not going

03:41:49.200 out and marketing themselves at a club is a good one for women to follow and it's a good one for men

03:41:53.440 to have in the back of their mind but what i just talked about the pattern recognition that is an

03:41:57.440 incredibly important nuanced thing to make sure that the relationship is healthy and the girl again

03:42:02.480 doesn't feel like she's being anxiously controlled yeah that's true i think yeah it's kind of like a

03:42:07.520 philosophy we have that we've said before we haven't really it hasn't come up yet because honestly i don't

03:42:12.160 we don't really do things too much apart from each other but it's kind of like we always want

03:42:16.400 the invitation to be there so like if yeah he wants to go out that weekend with his boyfriend like his

03:42:21.920 guy friends or whatever if he's like hey i'm thinking about going out you want to come with us

03:42:25.680 if i don't want to go go for it but for you to come to me and be like oh we're all doing this just

03:42:31.280 guys no one else that's another big thing you wanted him to go with you originally and then the plan

03:42:36.480 changed so that's why he was like he knows he knew my my goal was i wanted to be out there with

03:42:41.600 him tonight right that was the main goal so it's like the same thing if i wanted to have a girls

03:42:44.880 weekend per se it's more so is like if he wanted to come could he come yeah if he can then he yes but

03:42:50.960 if i'm trying to do something if either of us are trying to do something where the other is

03:42:54.000 not allowed per gender or reason yeah that's not cool like why

03:43:01.120 what's up brian yep i think this is where madison has to take over as host what oh i didn't even

03:43:07.520 finish my thought earlier about like what were you talking about men approaching yeah going you

03:43:12.960 i'm not while you're at bars you spoke you were like oh my god you spoke i didn't even

03:43:22.560 i'm just like so out of it right now but um i'm not saying like i don't like when men approach me in

03:43:28.960 general yeah in a club bar setting i wouldn't want a drunk man to approach me that's like a little

03:43:35.040 different but the way my current boyfriend and i met he approached me like on the beach i thought

03:43:40.640 that was nice like i'm not just saying that i don't necessarily like when men approach me because

03:43:45.760 i know that's what they have to do in order to you know find a solid girl but how uh how do you guys

03:43:52.640 feel about approaching men i don't mind it i've done it i don't have too much of a problem with it

03:43:59.360 it's not something that i often actively do but if if a opportunity presented itself and i felt the

03:44:07.120 urge to i am not opposed but it's not my first choice i always want to but way too scared like

03:44:14.480 way too intimidated to ever go up to a man and be like hey i'm interested in you like i'll afraid of

03:44:20.240 rejection because yes that's just exactly yeah no i know and the men in my dms are consistently

03:44:27.200 afraid of rejection they're like how do we avoid rejection i'm like you don't you face it you deal

03:44:31.040 with it you move forward but then i have sort of a double standard for myself um as i would be afraid

03:44:36.400 to approach a man because of rejection so there is a double standard alabama you were going to say

03:44:40.400 something yes so i feel like in like certain situations yeah like you know there are some outliers

03:44:47.120 but personally i feel like if a man thought i was attractive i liked me he would come to me you

03:44:52.400 know yes it wouldn't have to be like this tension like i would have to go to him you know if he

03:44:57.280 he likes what he sees he's gonna it's this whole thing about wanting to be secure that he really

03:45:01.520 wants me and he's not just we're not just together because i initiate yeah you were the only option i

03:45:07.680 just have to defend myself really quick billy objected to my use of the banana prop i would just like to

03:45:13.680 point out i have other fruit too i have these are nectarines billy and i have some blueberries in

03:45:19.600 there too and in the fridge i have loquats hmm what's up what thanks brian do you want billy you

03:45:26.560 want a nectarine these are donut nectarines they're very special wait okay i'm not going to feed everyone

03:45:35.040 i just had to defend myself because there was there's accusations that i specifically picked a

03:45:41.360 banana you totally did because of the phallic nature oh absolutely 40 in his house oh my god

03:45:48.240 you didn't answer my offer for the flight oh will you not give up those sweatpants for one day

03:45:53.760 and it's a double date because after you meet me i'll need brian to protect me from your advances

03:45:59.760 it's not likely i'll consent on the first date uh so your original message was great idea for a

03:46:07.200 live stream i'll fly in on the jet pick you priya and your girl up fly anywhere you'll y'all want in

03:46:13.280 the u.s to eat anywhere anywhere uh record everything you'll have to wear real pants they won't let you

03:46:20.480 in the restaurant otherwise what if it's like a white castle what if i want to go to the white

03:46:25.200 you're taking a girl to white castle brian i'm not i'm not going to white castle brian listen

03:46:30.000 hey brian where was the last date you took a girl last date i took a girl yeah and when

03:46:38.320 just where where yeah bro billy you're coming for me tonight do it fuck um answer the last date i took a

03:46:48.480 girl on in and out and we all tagged along wait what that doesn't really count

03:46:57.600 it doesn't really count uh it's like a walk in the park

03:47:02.560 um

03:47:05.680 i'm trying to think the last date like going out to like a restaurant or like the last date the

03:47:12.960 last where where did it take place i don't know it's been that long let's just say uh

03:47:19.040 you can't recall the last date you've been on let's just say uh i'm i'm a discreet individual

03:47:23.920 when it comes to my does that mean you're dating so that either means two things either

03:47:29.280 you are it goes against everything that you usually say so you're scared to say it because

03:47:33.760 you're like oh i won't pay on a first date i don't go these fancy dinners i mean like for

03:47:37.440 example like i've i've brought people like uh group to the in and out after the show that is

03:47:43.520 not so i'll treat like i like to treat no but that's not a date that's not a date but what i'm

03:47:48.720 trying to say is i treat right madison i yeah yeah brian buys me in and out yeah he he well the

03:47:54.640 group i'll buy i'll take oh yeah he bought all of us in now yeah of course that's a business

03:47:59.120 expense it's a write-off but uh what's the question where's the last question when was the

03:48:06.560 last time you had a date yeah when's the last time you had a date how about that let's start there

03:48:11.760 so i'm trying to think though like the actual date oh it's been years no i'm just like because the way

03:48:18.560 i the way how do you date brian has been over five years which one question way i move i'm trying

03:48:24.560 to think like that last proper date where i met someone like out in public and i wasn't and i

03:48:32.000 wasn't just like come over i'm trying to think the last time so you're a pumper and dumper no no no

03:48:38.080 i don't pump and dump no pump and dump there's pumping there's pumping no dumping no dumping

03:48:45.760 i don't pump and dump there's multiple pumps i do multiple pumps before you're done okay there's

03:48:53.520 multiple pumps oh i remember i watched no singular pumping you like to pump for at least three or

03:48:57.440 four times and then you don't did you see this on his only fans i like no i saw this in the last

03:49:01.840 episode i like continuity i like continuity i like continuity i don't like to hook up one time

03:49:08.960 have sex one time no at least three there's got at least three okay you've gotten your fill

03:49:14.560 but i'm kidding i kid i kid i kid i want i want to listen and i you know i want to continue seeing

03:49:19.840 this girl right but i'm trying to think like oh right now huh you have a girl right now well

03:49:25.360 i didn't hold on who knows what the situation is i like to keep things a little vague to protect

03:49:30.400 the innocent that's right that's right that's right but uh i'm trying to think the actual last date

03:49:38.320 i uh uh shit man it's been greater or less than five years

03:49:47.440 have you been on a date in your 30s no i've been i've been on dates in your 30s

03:49:52.320 yes okay of course my god of course i'm trying to get ready here okay the i think the most recent

03:49:58.240 one you guys really i spent probably over 20 to 30 combined hours with this man i know nothing

03:50:03.440 about him this specific date was not my typical mo though so i can tell you what i did basically

03:50:10.240 met for a girl and we had tea that's that's cute we just got uh starbucks you know so yeah

03:50:17.280 why was that so hard to spit out anyone but that's not that was that used to not be my typical mo like

03:50:23.040 i used to be more like oh let's meet at like uh like a uh a lounge let's maybe grab a like a glass

03:50:30.240 of wine or whatever i'm not a big drinker but maybe i'd have like a glass of wine i'm so for a first

03:50:35.440 drink date yes what's that i'm you're so for you're not so for it yes a lot of women are against it

03:50:43.280 you're so for what are you doing i'm so for like just getting a drink oh absolutely a lot of women are

03:50:47.520 against it and they think it needs to be this big like elaborate thing you're you're you're atypical

03:50:52.480 what's that you are like like like you like i don't want like i don't like being approached

03:50:59.200 like most women definitely like being approached they might say like it's a little bit annoying

03:51:02.800 sometimes but like they definitely like being approached most women are like i hate when he

03:51:08.720 just takes me out for drinks he's trying to get drunk we don't know each other he's just trying to

03:51:12.000 get me drunk he's just trying to he's just trying to get some like like that that is the person see

03:51:16.880 most women don't want the vibe to be loose most women want to have their head screwed right on straight

03:51:20.960 i'm like and they want to be able to evaluate before first of all we haven't met ever so we

03:51:26.000 do this big old long date what if we're not like you know feeling it if it's like a coffee or a drink

03:51:30.720 we can make it short or longer you're not stuck in this big old thing i think it's a great idea

03:51:36.240 oh i'm not saying it's a bad idea what i'm saying is most women i would no no like most women would

03:51:41.520 rather not be intoxicated on a first date i love the drink donated 99 we have entered into a world

03:51:49.280 of loose morals and easy sex especially with instagram and only vans no true value relationships

03:51:56.000 anymore between that and skewed family law in one sex's favor why would men bother seeking to find a

03:52:02.240 wife these days based uh thank yo esto surfer thank you very much man for the tts i mean but when it

03:52:13.520 comes to like the drinking date um one drink max like yeah it's more definitely you don't want to

03:52:19.200 go and get tanked but like one for i wouldn't say two is a good number no just one one's a waste of time

03:52:26.640 one drink one's a waste one's a waste of a drink i feel like you might as well get two well i'm

03:52:31.600 a lightweight so you know what it matters it's a waste it's a waste of your time but it is not a

03:52:36.560 waste of his money no that's not my point i'm saying neither i'm not talking about either i was

03:52:41.520 drinking a joke rather of like if i'm gonna drink one drink i might as well drink two so i can get

03:52:45.840 the buzz going is what i was just getting towards as long as you're buying the second one i mean you're

03:52:50.480 still gonna be sober i mean i to me personally i've paid for numerous dates that's not a problem to me i

03:52:55.920 just do think it does say something on the first occasion um i feel like the first drink right is

03:53:01.600 kind of like a given that he's gonna buy it the second drink alerts to me if you're feeling me or

03:53:06.480 not or like if he doesn't buy the second drink that shows me that he's not interested anymore if he

03:53:12.480 buys a second drink that shows me that he's interested in prolonging our conversation and

03:53:17.120 time together no man and theoretically what if he sounds like work just question um if he couldn't

03:53:22.240 afford it i would hope that he didn't pick a place that if he knew i wanted to order more than

03:53:26.480 one thing he was going to be in trouble but billy i will tell you my previous mo okay here's what you

03:53:32.000 do first off you go to like a nice kind of a lounge place that could double as a restaurant whatever

03:53:39.040 no no loud bars no loud clubs but like a lounge maybe kind of a cocktail lounge like the ritz you go

03:53:44.880 the ritz that's nice that's nice yeah and take get this i show up to the ritz in a flannel that's

03:53:53.040 right that's right that's right wearing sweatpants that's right show up to the the ritz no you did not

03:53:59.920 i swear to fucking god i believe it no i swear to god i chase would slap me if i said that right

03:54:07.520 good um no no no it's because of the swearing to god thing it was also good okay no i have gone

03:54:14.160 on multiple dates at the ritz the ritz wearing sweatpants and a flannel what's up

03:54:24.960 it just looks tacky it's right on the beach it's right on the beach it's casual people are walking

03:54:30.160 around the lobby in flip-flops and shorts and a t-shirt it's not it's good it's not even about the

03:54:35.200 ritz it's just about it's the first don't even trip so i'm supposed to sit here what's up how you

03:54:40.800 doing what if the girl showed up i would bro propose check this shit out boom this is coming

03:54:48.800 out oh boom married and that's good honestly that's a good thing though that means you'll find another

03:54:54.960 person that will go i was listening to the drake song because i i say this all the time i was

03:55:01.040 listening mortified i would just be so embarrassed like why are you just like

03:55:08.400 what are you 10 what's happening middle school yo the nectarine has imbued me with

03:55:13.680 energy and power i have three pieces of nectarine

03:55:21.200 okay listen look look look did you just drake oh god best i ever had oh my god sweat sweatpants hair

03:55:29.040 time that's when you're the prettiest i hope you don't take it wrong that's fine but you shouldn't

03:55:34.800 be showing up for that in a formal event like that's you look the best but would she look her

03:55:40.800 best if we were at a wedding and she shows up like that no like there's time and place brian

03:55:46.000 would you be attracted to her if she was walking on the street with sweatpants her hair tied up no

03:55:50.480 makeup on would i be attracted like would you be like i'm gonna i'm gonna go how pretty right yeah i don't

03:55:57.120 think i don't think it matters to guys as much i really don't i be put together they say it doesn't

03:56:02.240 matter to them but it does because that's a big thing i've even seen on like am i the

03:56:05.920 asshole reddit where it's like the woman stops putting effort into her appearance and as they have

03:56:12.000 kids not even just like about gaining weight but it's like oh she doesn't do her hair she's

03:56:15.360 not getting dressed she's a stay-at-home mom and just stays in her sweatpants and t-shirt all day

03:56:19.760 and men start to really hate that a lot of the time obviously not probably not a man like brian

03:56:23.760 he shows up to the ritz and sweatpants but a lot of men are fine they love a natural bare face but

03:56:29.440 they also wouldn't love a woman who doesn't take care of herself like those look obviously i don't

03:56:34.080 want a woman who's like disheveled is that how you say disheveled disheveled i don't want a woman

03:56:38.400 who's disheveled her hygiene's got to be good well i would consider a woman disheveled if she shows

03:56:43.120 up to a date at the ritz carlton in sweatpants that's a disheveled woman in my opinion

03:56:46.480 i would agree with that honestly fair enough fair enough but like

03:56:54.160 hold on there's one you're cornered brian am i cornered

03:57:00.480 sorry he goes a redditor i love a good page i do spend a lot of time on reddit sometimes

03:57:05.840 not discord though

03:57:06.640 okay um what were we talking about ritz sweatpants i think there's different

03:57:14.400 you're mo dating mo oh the dating mo okay look yeah you show up like obviously dressed to the nines

03:57:23.280 in a flannel and sweatpants and uh you have the most impeccable timing i always have to get

03:57:29.920 wait what water breaker is are you are you challenged is this a challenging conversation

03:57:38.320 billy do you you can't handle the flannel ritz combination okay um oh pria's going too all right

03:57:48.400 peace out um so okay you show up on time meet me there at seven boom you know she's going to be late

03:57:57.520 so here's what you do here's the game plan right you talk you tell the waiter this is the this is

03:58:03.920 the gangster move you tell the waiter or whatever by the way because you've already arrived early you

03:58:11.120 already get you already asked for a drink give me some give me a merlot whatever the

03:58:14.880 you want to drink whatever give me a merlot sir politely please listen steve the waiter

03:58:24.240 can you i want you to bring separate checks at the end boom that's it and then you pay she orders

03:58:34.400 whatever she wants i heard you say that i feel like that's so terrible that's not terrible no she

03:58:39.200 orders what she wants you order what you want i mean it's okay go half because if you know right

03:58:45.120 like if you're just like hey like i'm paying for mine you're you're paying for yours right no

03:58:48.720 that's just that's my mo that's my mo on the date yeah but then when you find out a woman's

03:58:52.560 what if she didn't have any money like then what well if she showed up and just assumed you were

03:58:57.280 gonna pay ten dollar drink i mean she's chilling oh she's just broke and she just showed up she's

03:59:03.120 one of those people i don't date then like chris brown i don't date broke

03:59:09.920 i'm not saying i'm not saying your philosophy is wrong it's nothing there's nothing like

03:59:17.040 philosophically wrong with doing that but based off the things that you say you want in a woman i

03:59:22.960 don't think you're gonna find the woman you want by doing things like that you'd be surprised

03:59:28.160 really that's why are you in a nice happy relationship right now listen i can't i can't

03:59:33.120 you put all of our lives on blast but you want to tell us if you're in a relationship on a dating

03:59:37.280 podcast no but what's your point if you wanted a woman who was more dominant headstrong like making

03:59:45.920 decisions maybe more masculine you will say that might work with her she might love that and love to

03:59:51.840 split the bill but the woman that you talk about you want a lot of the times i think most women will

03:59:56.320 see that and not like it not because you're a gold digger but you talk about traditional woman i mean on a

04:00:02.480 first date if i'm getting courted on this date i would very least expect you to pay for that one

04:00:07.440 i'm not saying for the pain for everything in the rest of eternity but i don't think you're going to

04:00:11.680 find your trad wife bye well here's the thing right here's the thing can can you girls stop gossiping

04:00:20.560 back there and uh okay it's a fair point fair point right oh brian you go on about wanting this and that

04:00:29.280 and but but but you don't even want to pay for the first date so it's a fair argument however here's

04:00:34.240 the thing right is given the current landscape i believe that you don't get the you don't get that

04:00:42.800 sort of treatment until you are committed to me now i would say 99 of women are not prepared to

04:00:51.360 let's not say commit but are like fully single going in to a first date they're either on a dating app

04:00:57.360 they've got 10s 10 10 20 30 40 options that they're entertaining maybe they're sleeping with

04:01:03.280 one two three other guys so my whole thing is you don't get girlfriend treatment until you are said

04:01:10.880 you are my girlfriend but then when i on a previous podcast said that men shouldn't get

04:01:15.280 husband treatment until they make me a wife you said well then how will you ever get to that stage

04:01:21.120 mm-hmm so how will she ever get to that stage if you're showing her things that she doesn't like

04:01:27.440 yeah when the jump when the question well most but you're saying that she doesn't get girlfriend

04:01:32.160 treatment until she becomes a girlfriend correct i said that men shouldn't get husband or wifey

04:01:38.240 whatever husband treatment until there's a ring on my finger and you said well you'll never get to that

04:01:42.560 point unless you start what is wifey what is wifey treatment to you what what does that i mean i didn't

04:01:48.560 really yeah yeah to me personally i mean i guess you will say like the cooking cleaning laundry or

04:01:55.680 whatever that sense i don't really need a ring okay so but but the i guess the differentiation i'd make

04:02:00.800 here is if you want a trad wife woman who's you know a homemaker the traditional viewpoint you're

04:02:11.360 probably not going to get that by making her pay for her first date is what i'm saying so that's why i

04:02:15.440 understand not oh i'm cool with 50 50. fuck it that's not bad i can do that but but here okay

04:02:22.560 let me let me add a bit of nuance let me let me add a bit of of nuance i guess i guess to this um

04:02:34.240 i don't think i'm prepared i'm not like going to provide off rip for a girl i'm not saying you should

04:02:40.880 it's we're talking about paying for like a ten dollar drink or whatever i'm not saying that you

04:02:47.280 take her on a date and then the next week you're paying her rent i mean that's not what so like what

04:02:50.480 happens if say she wanted to buy you a drink right the first time and then like she wants to go out

04:02:56.880 a second time so she's like you know what i'll get you this time how about you pay next time would that

04:03:00.800 be okay what's that like if she paid the first time and wanted to go on a second date would you

04:03:06.800 be a second date that's not bad i also think the provide it's not great but it's not bad it's okay

04:03:14.800 financial provision in an era where women can financially provide for themselves is a massive

04:03:21.440 massive step like you can still give a girl the wife you can give the girl the husband treatment

04:03:28.320 everything outside of the money right you can still give him the wifey treatment everything

04:03:35.440 outside of taking the provision like there are i think we can both agree like there's massive things

04:03:41.360 to a relationship to masculinity and femininity outside of the provision of resources it's a huge

04:03:47.200 element and i do think that there is something to a man being able to and this is one of the things i

04:03:52.240 talk about a lot i say men need to figure out how to showcase the characteristics that get them to buy

04:03:59.440 into the fact that you can be a provider so to brian's point if you're able to provide for yourself

04:04:05.360 but you're not ready to commit to him if we can just throw provision to the side and then focus on

04:04:10.560 the other aspects of the audition let's say we should be able to do that in this particular era

04:04:15.600 especially where women are talking about how they're equal right especially on that particular front

04:04:19.840 i think she was saying more so if i don't know i don't know who you would uh prefer like a

04:04:25.920 traditional wife versus you know a more um worldly but i don't know but from a liberal liberal yeah there

04:04:34.560 we go um but from the traditional standpoints we we're tending to look for guys who would be willing

04:04:44.400 to pay for that so what she i feel like what you were saying is that if you're not willing to pay for

04:04:49.280 the first dates then you're probably not going to attract the women that you desire for i i actually

04:04:55.040 disagree i think my unwillingness now granted i and i've said this many a times because this topic

04:05:00.640 comes up frequently uh this loses me women or well you know perhaps it does but it'll certainly lose

04:05:10.720 other men women if they don't pay the for the first date so i don't recommend this isn't like some dating

04:05:15.520 coach advice and i don't bill myself as a dating coach i don't recommend men because it's not going

04:05:22.000 to do you any positives to not pay it's either if you pay for the date it's either neutral or positive

04:05:28.800 uh whereas if you don't pay for the date it's either it's it's never positive it's either neutral

04:05:34.800 or negative uh so gentlemen if you're watching don't do this um i'm also i wear sweatpants and

04:05:41.920 flannels to first date so you know uh take that into consideration uh but i would actually argue

04:05:50.960 that of the women that still want to uh date me after i am not prepared to pay for them they're

04:06:01.120 actually really really into me so or they might be into well not necessarily but it's a screening

04:06:08.240 mechanism whereby the girls that aren't cool with me not paying because a lot of women will break all

04:06:15.760 these rules like if a you do you think a girl like if she meets her celebrity crush or whatever

04:06:22.640 granted he may very well have the resources to provide for her exceptionally do you think like

04:06:30.640 she needs her celebrity crush to like be paying for all this shit no i think andrew tate often and i

04:06:37.520 i don't like that he uses chris brown as the example but he's like do you think a girl cares

04:06:42.800 if do you think she's going to expect chris brown to pay for her now i don't think chris brown is a

04:06:48.080 great example because of his uh previous dv situation with fucking rihanna so i i think he could he you can

04:06:57.760 replace chris brown with someone i don't know who who's like a dude that chicks fucking fawn over

04:07:04.160 a hensworth brother ryan reynolds yeah like i think a lot of women if their ideal man was like

04:07:12.480 yeah i don't really want to pay for you i'll pay for myself like they're going to be like they're

04:07:16.880 going to tolerate that sort of change their rules yeah they're going to break their rules of the guy

04:07:21.200 needs to pay the for the excuse me pay for the first date uh i just think it's a screening mechanism

04:07:26.160 because they're not they're not disregarding though because they really like this guy it's because he's

04:07:31.600 rich and famous which is two different things it's not looking for love it's looking for a leg up in

04:07:36.080 the world somehow if i was on a date with a man who was obvious it wasn't like a hidden thing he was

04:07:41.280 known that he was either rich and successful and he didn't pay for me i would think that they're a

04:07:48.480 loser i would i would think that they're a bum it's like that's i would think either it's a facade that

04:07:53.680 they're putting on and they truly can't afford even though it is a great money saving tactic to

04:07:58.320 keep your expenses low but i no it would change it for me i would honestly they would not no longer

04:08:05.040 be my celebrity crush i would have been like wow this guy is a real

04:08:10.800 loser sorry i mean you're a rich and you can't even pay for my it's not about the money it's about

04:08:16.480 the principle and honestly like a woman who requires romance just really doesn't like you that much and

04:08:21.360 when i say romance i mean like romance is a very i mean flower getting flowers paying for the first

04:08:26.000 day doing these intricate fucking that's how you keep the love alive that's how you keep it sparky

04:08:31.200 is that what it requires for you i mean i love receiving flowers and the fact that i know that

04:08:35.760 you were out and about and thought of me to get me some flowers and bring them home to me i have a

04:08:39.600 question for you kiko why do you support a patriarchal tradition i'm a very traditional woman in a lot of

04:08:45.920 sense i but isn't that supporting the patriarchy are we saying that the patriarchy is kind of based

04:08:51.760 i i do support doesn't exist by the way in some ways i don't never denied it huh i don't agree that's

04:08:58.160 fine um i think that people especially now with how high divorce rates and etc are i think people

04:09:06.160 forget that relationships that are a lifelong commitment take a lot of effort and you need to

04:09:12.720 do things throughout your life to continue to keep that spark alive and to wake up every day and

04:09:18.720 continue to choose to love that person i mean all she's asking for you is to buy her some flowers

04:09:23.040 every once in a while she's not asking for a trip to cabo or the bahama or something i mean it's not

04:09:27.040 that crazy to expect some flowers every couple i don't know i can't prefer when when the girl's more

04:09:31.600 simping on me than i'm simping on her but that sounds like an insecurity issue it's not an insecurity

04:09:36.320 but but what because you need this is something it's an insecurity for me as a male to have it but

04:09:41.600 this is almost this is the standard that the vast majority of women because a lot of women are

04:09:45.040 insecure that's oh yes a lot of women are severely insecure i've never said anything different because

04:09:50.880 women want men to pay on first dates it makes them insecure i don't believe that you were talking

04:09:57.200 about how you want her to you you want the woman to simp off of you yes the woman who want to have

04:10:02.240 a bunch of men chasing her and simping her all attention are insecure they feel they need the attention

04:10:08.400 to remind them of who they are because they don't feel secure with themselves so i would do

04:10:12.080 you cook for your boyfriend huh do you cook for your boyfriend i would cook i say i could do you

04:10:16.720 get you guys live together right i cook maybe nine he cooks like he cooked breakfast yesterday i think

04:10:22.720 actually you guys split the rent um yeah you do we're both working we're both new into our careers

04:10:29.360 we're young i don't expect him at 24 years old to be paying for my livelihood okay so it's just what the

04:10:36.720 first date it's just like this arbitrary thing from a holdover from days past where men were would pay

04:10:43.280 for first dates but then it's you don't want them to pay for your rent and shit i i don't expect no

04:10:49.120 it's because okay it's two different things that's why i'm saying like to me it's a part of the the

04:10:54.800 courting showing your love like showing how you are interested in me and i don't i think it's a bigger

04:11:03.840 impression if a woman pays for the first date like that to me that but like we also see in america like

04:11:09.920 a lot of our divorce rates come from the woman being the breadwinner and it not working out

04:11:14.960 so she has to be the breadwinner if i have to pay for the first date i would hope i'm making more money

04:11:21.280 it doesn't but i'm not arguing that the woman i mean it it's fucking gangster if she if she does but

04:11:27.840 i'm just saying i pay for my bill she pays for hers that seems to be the most equitable thing you can

04:11:33.680 do what do you think about this would you feel emasculated by if a woman paid for the bill i've

04:11:38.080 had girls pay for bills before um and usually it's like to let me know how thoroughly how how thoroughly

04:11:46.560 they liked the date this happened very rarely but they've done it like just to be like i'm gonna buy

04:11:53.040 this like because i just wanted to let you know that like i had like a really really really great

04:11:58.000 time i don't want you to feel like you have to buy this for me like it's great it's extremely rare

04:12:03.920 the comment that i would say and kind of combining what you're saying with what you stated earlier

04:12:10.320 in the modern dating world where dates happen way more frequently you have to put yourself in the

04:12:15.600 position of a man who is now going on way more dates okay it's not like you stumble upon a girl

04:12:23.040 who now you finally have an opportunity to maybe go on a date with now it's in your pocket you could

04:12:29.120 get a date this week and the week after and the week after and the week after and to brian's point

04:12:35.360 you can you can be as selective as you want talking to these girls it could be your dream girl on paper

04:12:42.400 you go on the date you may think it went well i'm gonna pay because obviously there's gonna be a

04:12:48.320 second date and then she ghosts it doesn't work out or you say something so as a man in the modern

04:12:54.240 dating world where not only women can afford to now cover their own bills it's one thing when in you

04:13:00.320 know times past they couldn't afford to do so so men would do it as a courtesy part of the chivalry

04:13:07.040 a concept earlier right but now you can afford to do it and dates are happening more frequently

04:13:12.560 so men are less inclined to be willing to put money on the line knowing that they're gonna have

04:13:18.560 to continue to put money on the line moving forward with more and more dates i see that and

04:13:23.120 but even like she said or you said if people have paid for the woman has paid for the date to show

04:13:27.360 like how much that they you know liked it where i've seen the also flip side where woman will say

04:13:31.360 i will decide to pay for my share of the date to show that i don't die to show that like i'm not

04:13:36.800 interested anymore and to not make them pay so that's why i could see you know it could be a fine

04:13:40.480 line and then what was the other thing you said with my other point um totally lost my train i thought

04:13:47.600 what was the other thing you said

04:13:50.720 yeah it's like gone it's so gone um i'll just i'll just jump in here

04:13:57.280 don't buy a girl dinner when she's gonna have some other dude

04:13:59.920 the dessert oh my holy what brandon melz donated one thousand dollars oh oh my lord how about we

04:14:07.600 all just how about we all just how about we all just my other point was oh my god this guy brandon

04:14:14.560 melz is on fire it becomes a problem if a woman expects it to be this nice fine diving event every

04:14:21.280 time is that the champagne i think it's champagne let's get some free entry it could be a walk and

04:14:25.520 part that i i was the master of the free first date like i feel that's totally acceptable and

04:14:31.200 more women should be when i was the last time i was like like truly truly single i was you good

04:14:37.680 yeah yeah sorry sorry sorry go ahead go ahead yeah no big deal uh is that the highest you've ever

04:14:44.320 gotten uh he's done that he's dropped 1k before that was wild giga chad jeez i have paid for

04:14:51.440 far more second dates than i have first dates yeah because i was in a relationship entering

04:14:57.680 the pandemic and then broke up kind of early in the pandemic so i was single during the time where

04:15:03.120 like america discovered walking as its favorite hobby again so like i so i would literally just

04:15:09.120 tell like hey i'm gonna go walk my dog you want to join me yeah sounds great that sounds like a great

04:15:13.520 first date like that's an admit like i had i had a walking trail when i moved uh back to uh pennsylvania

04:15:18.320 for a year and that was a great place to be like hey just like meet me here like let's go for a walk

04:15:21.680 it's a beautiful trail and if that went well i'd be like hey you want to get coffee this weekend

04:15:26.800 and then if that went well hey let's go out to dinner next week that's totally like that that is

04:15:30.560 an escalation that i think a lot of men should be willing to do and they they're so slept on there

04:15:35.120 that's a really they're too want to get dive into it too quickly but but but that but that kind of

04:15:40.080 supports brian's point right like it's not necessarily it's not necessarily about the money it's about

04:15:46.880 like why are you actually going out with him why are you actually meeting up with him are you

04:15:51.680 meeting up with him because you're interested in going on a date with him yeah or for a free

04:15:55.440 dinner or are you doing it for a free drink at a free dinner yeah during my experience

04:16:00.400 anytime i offered to pay for the meal they felt really offended and how you said you said you were

04:16:08.320 22. what oh my god okay no is this nick in the back of my account what is going on there's no

04:16:19.760 fucking way one thousand dollars means we popped so my cash-up is yeah for cash-up venmo zell

04:16:26.800 right my venmo's in the description all i was gonna do brian should we just pause the conversation

04:16:34.000 uh you guys keep talking i was gonna say you're 22 right so like you and you typically date guys

04:16:39.120 around your age yeah i could see them i could see guys that age not necessarily having the

04:16:46.240 well no she said they get offended when she pays i could see them having a hard time navigating that

04:16:53.600 situation because it can be you feel like you're going through a very step-by-step process at that

04:17:00.160 age it's like i'm supposed to do this and i'm supposed to do this and i'm supposed to do this as

04:17:03.120 you become an adult you realize it's a much much more liquid process um so i could see them not

04:17:08.640 necessarily being offended but just being a little bit like wait do i not know how to open

04:17:16.000 kiko where are you going she's the bartender have her do it yeah kiko can you do it you're the bartender

04:17:27.280 wait it says read the instructions point bottle away from self and others remove foil firmly grasp

04:17:32.960 down on top yeah why would you point it twist top until stopper pops push down on top firmly until

04:17:39.360 it clicks twice twist there's a warning label yeah they pop like hard it's like a screw kind of

04:17:46.000 so just screw it off don't actually like slowly release if i put my hand if my hands on top of

04:17:52.720 it is my hands gonna get you're gonna be fine you'll stop it from shooting out just slowly release the

04:17:58.720 pressure don't just i'm i'm kind of scared actually shake it and then yeah so if my hands on you're

04:18:07.280 fine brian just do it i'm too my hands are i think mld's in the chat what the i just hope you don't like

04:18:16.960 hit anything this is the problem with having small dainty hands you can't bro i don't know how

04:18:25.920 fucking open to champagne uh kiki is yeah is it do i lose my man card if i have kiko do

04:18:34.640 yeah just don't point just go

04:18:41.040 put put your hand on top though to stop it from you just hold it and twist it

04:18:45.280 put you guys right just put your hands on top

04:18:52.640 oh gosh man it's gonna be fine you guys it'll be great

04:18:56.400 you're purchasing guys i'm not liable for anything i was gonna say don't worry you gotta put your hand

04:19:02.960 oh my god you put your hands on top so much amp for nothing yeah this is very dramatic yeah i feel

04:19:08.400 like i've opened a lot of champagne bottles yeah

04:19:12.160 i'm gonna go back here this way yeah go put your hands on top door

04:19:18.320 i mean how much more time do you want to get that's good that's good keep going

04:19:21.680 you just guys it's gonna pop and you're gonna be like oh that was i know i know i said there's so

04:19:26.720 much hype for nothing you got it oh did you shake it brian no i didn't i definitely didn't

04:19:35.600 oh my god

04:19:40.720 okay it wasn't even a cork brian

04:20:01.040 approximately 24 people are killed each year by champagne bottle corks depending on

04:20:03.600 did i move the cups did i bring the cups back over there where's the cup i mean we all have a

04:20:12.880 million cups yeah i think we all okay brandon mails donated 100 dollars yo brandon thank you so much

04:20:18.720 and i saw your second one by the way thank you sir uh is anyone here just madison you can't you're not

04:20:28.080 21 i think you're the only one yo brandon thank you so so much man that's incredibly generous of

04:20:33.840 you um thank you so much man um where where you got whoa what the fuck yo we just got a camera full

04:20:42.320 of titty what the fuck just like boom right up up wait where did the can can i get a cup though i i need

04:20:50.640 a i think she's grabbing cups right now she's gotta grab cups there's no cups

04:20:54.880 dude brandon thank you man really appreciate your patronage you're a fucking legend

04:21:02.960 does that mean we have to pop two bottles though i think so does that mean we pop two

04:21:07.040 but okay let's do that that was for all the men who comment on my photos flat chest energy

04:21:14.320 i just wanted to show you what i was working with mosquito bites

04:21:18.400 whoever else is drinking let me see what you're working with arturo you must have some baked

04:21:24.880 i do not know how to pour champagne i should not do that did you get the cups yeah you're late

04:21:33.200 oh you're really doing another one that one looks more like a cork are you gonna

04:21:36.400 excess swelling and even glaucoma are all possibilities caused by corks oh my god

04:21:41.840 why are you pointing this brian he's gonna hit the wall brian it's different direction he's gonna

04:21:46.640 prove that he can do it on camera yeah yeah you can't do it on camera yeah you have to do it on

04:21:53.840 brian he paid for this you have to do it on camera yeah let's move it over here kiko how old is puerto

04:22:00.240 rican girl 26 26. am i wikipedia now on there she got it down i like to listen

04:22:12.480 all right we got some meat we have a schloss b-brich did i say that right b-brick i don't know

04:22:20.000 good times what were we talking about related to dating before i feel like we've talked about

04:22:24.880 like three things wait so do i do i do i have to like oh my god that might be a cork no way

04:22:34.000 where the sky is he's trying to get us drunk

04:22:37.920 is there is there something else that we can do for a thousand dollars oh my god

04:22:44.560 oh my god

04:22:45.280 look if my okay serious question if my hand is on top is my hands gonna have a hole in your small

04:23:03.840 this isn't a cartoon brian this is not a cartoon brian that what okay oh my god

04:23:11.440 oh my god wait how do i do it it's it's unscrewed okay so now now we work there's no way dude just

04:23:23.440 pop it off slowly release the pressure what do you mean release the pressure like slowly twist

04:23:29.200 it off twist it upwards but slowly yes but slowly yes this is way too dramatic

04:23:35.280 oh my gosh oh wait oh somebody said grow something don't point it at the camera

04:23:43.840 bro i can't i can't brian you can do this

04:23:48.320 yeah i think the kid brian this is pathetic did you untwist the metal yeah it's untwisted

04:23:54.320 keep going bro i'm not turning it it's not turning no now you just kind of like kind of

04:24:00.080 knock it off toggle it like i was with my thumb toggle it just kind of like

04:24:06.880 bro i don't know kiko come over here this is ridiculous get on camera dude kiko get sit down

04:24:12.240 this is ridiculous what is happening on whatever podcast

04:24:20.560 bro don't worry i'm pointing it towards the wall

04:24:22.320 just feel it out just feel it

04:24:39.520 that's right oh my god you feel like the man now brian i'm so proud of you

04:24:44.240 okay he just throws it oh here pass pass the cups pass the cups all right i'd like to make

04:24:51.440 a toast my heart dude

04:24:57.680 oh

04:24:58.000 i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm wild you can tell that you uh don't drink at all

04:25:06.480 do you want to pour some on my pants

04:25:09.440 okay that's that's a little sus

04:25:13.200 does anybody else is anybody is anybody else gonna okay cheers did you guys did you guys pour

04:25:19.120 yeah yeah let's get some for billy let's get some okay we don't really have we lost half our audience

04:25:25.840 at this point just like this is boring bro you can't even open a fucking thing okay yeah

04:25:32.160 brandon this is a cheers to brandon mills to brandon to brandon mills let's go brandon

04:25:40.000 madison can't drink unfortunately but she's uh yeah okay uh i mean

04:25:46.720 it was three bottles it was delicious it was great thank you do we have to do i have to do another

04:25:53.200 one figure out something different to do for his his patronage uh brandon i will set you up on a date

04:26:00.400 i'm gonna set you up on a date with mia

04:26:04.880 what the man that just donated three thousand dollars you want me to set you up with with

04:26:08.560 brandon where does this come from i don't know i think he likes

04:26:12.400 oh was he the one that paid for the oh i understand i just got that impression

04:26:18.960 brandon do you want me to set you up with me i just

04:26:22.320 wow this is my first time on the podcast not drinking wow look how that went

04:26:27.600 oh you've been tanked all your previous appearances what we were talking about we were talking oh my god

04:26:33.920 we were talking about who should pay on the first date oh wow like i would take down before every

04:26:39.840 podcast about like really tito shots and then in this cup i usually had i would get like two cans of

04:26:45.280 uh the tall nicholos yeah because i like i would be so nervous beforehand i was like i can't i can't do

04:26:52.720 this yeah i was like i can't do this sober i need something in my system but oh no this is my water

04:26:58.000 clearly that wasn't working out for me like two cups of coffee but like everything i didn't want

04:27:05.200 i don't know i don't know how to pour alcohol right inept um so last point here on the who should

04:27:11.440 pay thing no can we just what you would you we're already past that i feel like

04:27:18.160 okay all right let's do some super chats

04:27:20.800 i mean like we are like if we're gonna start to brandon melts

04:27:23.280 may long may he rain oh we have kahil we have kahil here can you hide that did i don't know if

04:27:31.600 we i read this opinions on this dating app significantly lower your self-esteem especially

04:27:35.520 if you're an average man the idea there's so much access to women but somehow you're not good enough

04:27:41.440 gets to the hearts of many modern day men i do see a little contusion on my hand i'm just gonna say

04:27:48.480 shut up don't i'm a little contused i don't know if that's a word you're a little fragile is that a

04:27:53.440 word oh i'm not i mean med tech but i don't think that's a word a contusion is not that brandon

04:28:00.080 mills donated 100 dollars okay mia i'm taking you out next week he'll be down in santa barbara on the

04:28:07.680 fifth to the seventh also itemed you brian yeah are you super cute by the way she's five feet

04:28:18.080 i am five feet i do i am mid-tier because i play the piano according to brian mid-tier yeah you said

04:28:23.200 that last time oh right you said you preferred string and yeah that's right you don't play cello or

04:28:28.400 right i'm just a pianist so okay dude brandon thanks so much for the uh patronage wait okay so

04:28:35.680 there's going back to kahil did we did that one come up earlier no that's the idea there's so much

04:28:42.480 access to women but somehow you're not good enough gets to the hearts of many modern day men

04:28:48.560 that's from kahil he was asking for opinions on this i was hoping i could see that i agree

04:28:54.880 i dating apps in particular are incredibly like self-esteem bashing for men um you look look no

04:29:04.400 further than the statistics that came out from bumble and from tinder just look at the graph to

04:29:09.120 see the swipes for women versus the swipes for men and also just take into account your experiences on

04:29:13.840 dating apps i know all of you have been on them at in some capacity at some point you open up your app

04:29:19.680 to men in your inbox who have reached out to you men open their app hopefully to a woman who has

04:29:26.080 decided to match them raven dt donated one hundred dollars technically piano is that is kind of true

04:29:33.120 yeah whoa it is a string instrument my still percussion your brain my city college uh music instructor

04:29:41.760 would freak very upset that i yeah okay sorry uh you were you were saying uh about the dating apps

04:29:50.480 like yes a man walk a man opens up his app hopes that a woman who he has liked previously has now

04:29:57.200 matched with him women are opening their app to a sea of men who have already liked them and they're

04:30:02.400 now just selecting which one they are going to match with that is the way it works again well what's the

04:30:07.680 dance that he talked about earlier a woman markets herself a man makes the first move a woman then

04:30:12.560 has to accept that move and see if she wants to proceed any further that's the mating dance for

04:30:16.480 humans so as a man when a woman is able to literally just take the preferences like she doesn't have to go

04:30:23.440 out and find a six foot tall man she can literally just swipe on all the six foot tall men who have

04:30:27.920 already liked her within a certain radius and mileage right men who are not hitting the standards on paper

04:30:35.760 are going to complete it's going to be the exact opposite effect of the girls who are average to

04:30:40.720 below average who still have a ton of guys in their inbox their egos are going to be inflated their egos

04:30:45.680 men's egos are going to be completely deflated and back to what you're talking about about like when

04:30:51.120 you asked earlier about um does when you asked like do you approach men like would you advocate for

04:30:57.120 women approaching men on like a regular day out to fix that chasm uh 100 percent and do you think

04:31:04.560 that that chasm between men and women uh feeds into inceldom um you mean like being an incel being

04:31:13.520 involuntarily celibate do you think that chasm feeds into like incel rhetoric i think so because

04:31:20.720 i think a lot of men lose hope to a point where they just decide it's not even worth it anymore they're

04:31:25.520 too ugly whereas if there were a couple of whereas if there were girl well we can get into that in a

04:31:29.920 second but if there were girls who were willing to approach men who they found to be cute just to

04:31:34.960 be like let's see how this conversation goes or maybe i can tell him i'd like to get coffee with him

04:31:40.080 like a lot of men would probably be willing to say yes really a lot of men like it's it's the it's the

04:31:45.840 men who have like immense abundance who might see a girl who approaches him and be like and be like

04:31:52.720 i'm gonna pass on this one because a lot of the girls who are like hyper attractive who he's probably

04:31:57.600 dating already don't feel the need to approach men but women who aren't getting that same degree

04:32:02.800 of attention who see a man who they wish would approach them go up and approach he's probably

04:32:07.200 going to at least be flattered and he's probably going to say yes if he's not a hyper hyper attractive

04:32:13.280 traditionally hyper attractive man so the extrapolation is like take the chance

04:32:19.600 the same way the same way i would talk to a guy right so like so because of how modern dating has

04:32:24.800 shifted and changed you would now advocate for women to be the ones to approach absolutely i think

04:32:29.840 that the the issue here is that that can be especially helpful for shy guys um i think one

04:32:36.720 of the big issues here is that because women again are emotionally stimulated and emotionally aroused

04:32:42.080 men are attractive on the approach just the fact that he's approaching has the balls to approach like

04:32:48.080 he just him making that move automatically elevates him in your eyes so that's an injury so that's

04:32:54.560 kind of an interesting one and one and a reason why i wish i could get more men to be comfortable

04:32:59.440 just like approaching getting rejected but if you want to solve the problem of these men feeling the

04:33:04.240 shame feeling the fear women absolutely need to be willing to approach more often and face that same

04:33:10.480 rejection and face that same rejection yeah now now go ahead go ahead you're good go for it i was going

04:33:16.080 to say just the one comment on inceldom again i try not to talk i try not to like talk down on incels

04:33:23.520 i think that abandoning hope on anything is a bad move but what i will say to most men who

04:33:29.040 consider themselves to be unattractive i've said this before you are 12 weeks in the gym and one

04:33:35.040 shopping spree away from taking yourself from being like a three to a six so true and if you do that

04:33:39.680 for a year you're an eight all and and by the way the characteristics you'll develop as a result of

04:33:45.840 that the discipline the hard work like just the dedication and the overall just willingness to

04:33:52.960 take care of yourself those are going to be traits that you carry over into other aspects of your life

04:33:57.440 and the moment that you start attract and the moment you start attracting women that is the

04:34:01.360 most tangible measurement of confidence that we have for men in the modern world yep it reminds me of

04:34:05.840 like the best thing i've heard andrew tate say when he says like when he has men reach out to them

04:34:10.000 saying like oh i'm so depressed or i'm so like you know no one likes me whatever and he'll tell them

04:34:14.320 get in the gym go to the gym get a six pack or you know do whatever and i get what he's saying

04:34:20.160 because either one or two things will happen you'll go to the gym you'll become more attractive you'll

04:34:24.640 get more girls your problem solved or the latter which isn't bad either is you'll get more confidence

04:34:30.480 in yourself and you find something more living for on your own to where it's still a positive win-win

04:34:36.240 situation so yeah the gym a nice outfit a nice watch it could do wonders for a man we still have to

04:34:43.760 pull up your instagram but before you do that up there that really hates you no no i've been seeing

04:34:51.120 a lot of pot they like him uh pull up twitch really quick first guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever

04:34:57.840 drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one twitch.tv slash whatever just there there it is

04:35:07.200 gentlemen ground score pro with the seven viewer raid thank you sir we have joseanne who's been on

04:35:14.320 the show dropping bits bff dropping bits thank you aid schaefer thank you for the oh my god i'm such a

04:35:24.000 lightweight i'm already drunk okay i was gonna say i can say i feel like you got drunk as soon as it got in

04:35:29.600 the air like pretty much guys follow us on twitch twitch.tv slash whatever uh pred deterred thank

04:35:36.240 for the prime wolf move gonna um omni thank you for the prime appreciate it brothers we'll check

04:35:41.760 back in there before we wrap up the show uh let's pull up kiko's instagram really quick while we're

04:35:45.920 waiting why are we doing this because we were gonna do it like an hour ago and then just obviously it's

04:35:51.440 super relevant to the conversation we're having right now do it nick we're talking about um

04:35:55.280 oh is that painting with a twist uh no it's painted cabaret oh it's the same thing i love it let's

04:36:00.880 scroll down just a little oh we should go again look it i guess those are my most provocative photos

04:36:09.200 right there haram that that's haram they're also like five years old that's like if you click on it's

04:36:16.480 like 2018 so these are kind of revealing you think my instagram is provocative it's i've seen worse

04:36:25.280 like like i mean let's be real if you think my instagram is provocative

04:36:30.240 it's it's not terrible i don't think you would want your girlfriend to have instagram at all then

04:36:33.760 it's not that bad i'm just saying though i don't i think i'm very mild compared to the content that

04:36:40.480 is put out there these days i feel like it's pretty tame and i have not deleted anything for the sake of

04:36:45.920 me being in a relationship i have not edited my instagram at all except for taking my old partners off

04:36:52.240 but i i that's why i'm saying when it comes to social media i don't see myself as having to

04:36:58.880 change how i portray myself because word okay we don't all right i just know we were going to pull

04:37:07.600 it up so thanks for the shout out i don't know it's kind of yep go follow her and also your tick

04:37:12.080 talk is rage quick kiko but you deleted it i think i changed my username i changed it to kiko lane

04:37:19.040 trying to sway away from the rage quit era question for you here you said in your pre-show messages to

04:37:26.240 us that you accidentally dated your third cousin and that you're currently dating this you you provide

04:37:32.720 this not a man who is a felon you asked me what was the worst thing that's happened or something

04:37:39.760 didn't you like what was the question there was a question like what was it but tell us about your

04:37:43.840 the worst case stereo like i it's just i went to a wedding and like my grandma was like that's your

04:37:49.840 third cousin and that was it did did you guys no calm down brian no just curious just saying small town

04:37:59.120 happens you said you're currently dating a man who is a felon fresh out of prison but you've been

04:38:05.600 dating him for what you said a year yeah i did good seven months super proud of him was it seven months

04:38:12.480 well you said you the current guy you're dating you've been with him for was it seven months you

04:38:16.000 said or one year it's been a year now yeah but you said so when you say fresh out of prison were you

04:38:20.800 dating him when he was in prison like he just got out of prison when i met him oh so a year ago yeah

04:38:26.400 okay i thought maybe you were pen pals with him that's how you met him when he was in prison

04:38:30.800 no and then no he got out we just met and we just clicked and we've been together ourselves okay

04:38:41.120 how long was he in good times um not very long i think it was like a year year and a half

04:38:47.920 some people like oh not very long seven years yeah yeah okay good times that's like you know what i

04:38:53.920 mean slap on the rest good times let me do the super chats it doesn't sound like a violent yeah

04:38:59.120 no no absolutely not no yo we have wait did we read this one from mr puffy vegas did we read this

04:39:07.440 all right this is a total lies bs my friends wives slash girlfriends have hit me about sx my entire

04:39:15.360 years life offered me sx why do all women pretend that you're not 100 of every woman i met cheat on

04:39:26.240 their husbands i've never met a wn that was faithful puffy vegas is the guy that we looked at he's a

04:39:34.640 fucking by the way we looked at his instagram right on tuesday yeah so he's saying he's essentially

04:39:41.440 saying that every woman that he's met is a cheater but we looked at his instagram and he hangs out

04:39:46.000 with like mysterious strange women all the time i think you need to surround yourself with better

04:39:50.160 people that's all i'm saying so yeah i i will say i have been i've spent time like on bachelor parties

04:39:57.680 or just like random boys trips where there have been women who literally like i've been essayed like

04:40:02.800 i have women come to me and they literally tell me you're the reason i'm gonna cheat on my husband

04:40:06.240 okay like like overtly they did corner you okay like it it happens a lot i was even talking to a

04:40:12.720 friend of mine earlier he sent me screenshots he met a girl yesterday got her number said hey do you

04:40:17.760 want to get coffee i can't i'm actually about to get on a plane to go to to go to italy full disclosure

04:40:23.200 i'm going with a guy that i may or may not be in love with but i'm intrigued but but i'm intrigued by

04:40:29.280 you and i'd like to keep talking the goal okay so like imagine being that guy who's going to italy with

04:40:35.120 her doesn't even know that she's just like talking to another guy who intrigues her all right he

04:40:39.920 probably thinks oh she's great oh she's coming with me oh she's being super sweet or she's being

04:40:43.120 super cuddly oh we're like having sex on the trip we're spending time touring together meanwhile there's

04:40:48.560 a guy waiting back in new york city for her well that's why the saying is men don't cheat more than

04:40:52.720 women they just get caught more it tends to be women are a lot better at i just you ever heard that

04:40:58.800 saying before like it's we always say men are the cheaters men are the biggest cheaters blah blah blah

04:41:04.160 but um a lot of research shows that women cheat almost just as much they just don't get caught

04:41:09.600 as easy whereas men cheat and then the woman finds out because they you know it's super obvious it's

04:41:14.640 much easier for women to cheat to add to that they they do it's more they're more sneaky what are your

04:41:20.000 thoughts on like uh being open with cellular devices like would you ever pick up her phone or look through

04:41:26.080 it or or something like that um i mean i have no reason to do it with her because she gives me

04:41:31.920 zero reason to um but again i think pattern recognition is something that is that is something

04:41:38.160 you got to take into account like like like maybe something like who you've been texting all day

04:41:43.200 just a question right and then at a certain point if you want to make that confrontation make it but

04:41:49.440 again different people are different people are very different i think people who have had their

04:41:52.800 trust violated in the past who say listen it's not that i don't trust you but i have just had

04:41:57.680 situations in the past it would make me feel better if you just gave me access to your phone

04:42:01.760 i completely support that um i've never been screwed in that capacity um but i completely understand why

04:42:08.160 people would have it and i actually support it um if the women don't want to cooperate with that

04:42:13.040 so be it but that's for them to figure out so by the way mr puffy vegas a woman is dming me on

04:42:21.520 whatever her name is puffalina i was wondering if i could get you set up with her you're puffy vegas

04:42:27.040 she's puffalina that's actually her username let me know if i can get you set up you know okay we

04:42:32.560 have uh can i make a point to uh sure sure go ahead i think that women that behave like that are

04:42:39.200 absolutely pathetic people people people need to take accountability yes like and if you want to

04:42:46.240 have successful relationships in this life you have to stop being a complete

04:42:53.440 what uh degenerate when it comes to how you're confiscating it like a teacher

04:43:00.160 i was really confused because that one half class of champagne yeah right that one sip but they're

04:43:08.000 pathetic because yeah because people because women behave like sex is this like

04:43:16.080 disposable thing that if they engage in it more and more often that they're somehow being um

04:43:24.000 what's the word i'm looking for like the divine feminine energy yeah yeah sure empowered empowered

04:43:34.320 yeah exactly empowered and at the same time they're wanting this man to commit to them and they're

04:43:40.240 trying to find somebody that is going to play the traditional role in the relationship when they're

04:43:44.720 just out here being promiscuous and not acting traditional in any sense how does that relate

04:43:51.520 back to what you just said i'm confused i would actually say like what she just said like like

04:43:56.160 had me thinking more about my response to you i would i would venture to say that openness with

04:44:01.600 devices should actually be like a non-negotiable that it's totally okay same that's how i like i have

04:44:08.400 nothing to hide from her on my phone she has nothing to hide from me in her phone yeah do i feel the

04:44:12.320 need to consistently check it no but i honestly think that if you're in a full long-term committed

04:44:17.120 relationship with future prospects it shouldn't even be a remote question if someone were to ask

04:44:22.880 you can i see your phone you should be able to be like here like it should be a no-brainer

04:44:28.000 non-negotiable if you're looking if you're hiding something or if you're being fishy about that

04:44:31.680 something is 100 yes a lot of men like will dm me and be like um i'm nervous that like this girl i'm

04:44:37.440 dating might be cheating on me um do you recommend that i look at her phone i'm like you're already

04:44:41.680 too far like if you can't lay out your phone and then like for example when i was in a monogamous

04:44:46.720 relationship when we were living together for almost four years phones were like it just i just

04:44:51.760 picked his up if i needed to use it or he picked mine up if you need to use it you know when you know

04:44:56.480 and even the slight like instinct that you got to check your phone is you're already past that point

04:45:02.080 in my opinion pattern recognition is not key in security yeah i think that's a very important

04:45:06.960 thing yes i was honestly so fortunate in the relationship i'm in right now that my boyfriend

04:45:11.440 actually lost his phone like two months in three months into our relationship and while he was like

04:45:17.760 there's a problem with his phone insurance or whatever so he didn't have a phone for like

04:45:22.000 honestly almost like two months he didn't have a phone and he was using my ipad a lot because it had

04:45:27.680 has like cellular you can use it but what happened was since he logged into his icloud on my ipad

04:45:33.280 all of our stuff has kind of gotten synced together so he has access to like he gets my text messages

04:45:40.480 and my like all my social media notifications and i sometimes get his too which i kind of liked because

04:45:46.640 right in the beginning it allowed for no like secrets or transparency yeah it's full transparency not

04:45:53.120 even because we wanted to but it just ended up being that way so like now i know he has full access to

04:45:57.520 all my messages and he has i have full access to his and it's just no no even question about

04:46:02.640 wait question kiko what if you were on your boyfriend's phone right and i'm so drunk

04:46:10.480 what if you're on your boyfriend's phone right and like you're just you're checking his

04:46:14.720 shit and then boom grinder pops up what do you do oh grinder

04:46:20.160 i would go to him and be like i'm very disappointed that you felt the need to hide this and start

04:46:31.440 something like this um you put my sexual health in at risk and that's just not cool and you're a

04:46:40.720 pussy because if that's what you want to be then be that loud and proud don't do that on my time

04:46:49.040 what y'all wait what's going on behind the scenes there what y'all doing madison what you're doing

04:46:53.120 back there hey madison get back in your seat madison are you mikaela now yeah get back in your seat

04:47:02.160 right now you can't eat over there i demand you starve on camera i demand eat your popcorn haven't

04:47:10.320 you been anti-lgbtq it's not anti-lgbtq i just feel like i have the right to not be in a relationship

04:47:15.840 with the gays you're making i feel like that's like a madison anti-gay that's ridiculous like

04:47:22.720 that's just sorry sorry i don't want to be with a man hey you too nicole secretly but you're going to

04:47:31.360 put your butt in that seat right now guys here's what all right we got to do some super chats so

04:47:40.240 here's what we're going to do god you're on a good one did you even have like half a glass well no this

04:47:44.880 is just his third character he had the condescending girl he had the uppity guy and now he has this

04:47:50.000 he has dr evil too bye felicia donated fifty dollars concerned about being screamed at or

04:47:58.160 labeled as a creep for simply greeting a girl what in the hell potentially causing her discomfort

04:48:06.080 however i'm all right with the receiving respect for rejection what is it called what are you calling

04:48:12.560 it something this whole podcast is scuffed now we're just scuffed listen listen up i'll tell you

04:48:20.080 this are you trolling i'll tell you this she's from alabama so she knows what did i have todd chrisley

04:48:29.360 listen they called you todd chrisley who's that who's todd crystal okay let's not talk about it

04:48:39.520 but uh let me just say bye felicia thank you very much for the appreciate it what we have excuse me

04:48:50.160 raise your hand if you want to ask a question there you go i call on kiko

04:48:53.680 when they when they send comments and it just ends up as a link what are they trying to say

04:49:04.320 are you are you speaking are you making fun of me right now i'm just trying to make the same energy

04:49:09.440 as you wait so what was the question what are they saying about you roll tide roll tide

04:49:17.680 wait what what are they saying no but like i'm actually serious wait so just so you're gonna

04:49:23.760 because your accent's a bit tame but if you get a bit more drunk is it gonna come probably when i

04:49:28.320 get excited or when i get uh passionate i get really country your voice just sounds like like

04:49:33.760 sunflowers and cowbells she's like she's just like sweet as pie picture like a clothesline

04:49:43.440 yeah yes here's here's what i see when when i hear her when i just see her whatever you're like a

04:49:52.160 a cool breeze on a hot summer day that's what's up it's precious i'll take it brian's riz level is

04:49:59.680 at a zero what the excuse me your real brian just came out all right we have puffy vegas here our

04:50:10.240 good friend puffy vegas he lives in vegas he pops the same he just trying to fix his his spelling

04:50:15.840 errors we already went over this oh he's a never all right let me let me read this here never met a

04:50:24.960 woman excuse me you already read this i did did i think this is a different he just changed the

04:50:31.600 never met a woman in my life that was faithful i don't think a woman can be faithful every woman i

04:50:36.880 have ever met women that will not sleep with the man on the first night if he gives her who she

04:50:43.200 pees all right we have testing tolerance black shirt is wrong there is no point in checking

04:50:53.200 each other's phones and can only cause harm i've dated at least three women who later i found out

04:50:58.640 had husbands or boyfriends they all used separate a partner's clean phone means nothing i don't

04:51:06.160 how testing how disconnected are you to not realize your partner has a whole other phone like yeah i

04:51:12.080 mean are you even in their life like that that they're working overtime to hide that kind of thing

04:51:18.320 like again are are we talking about the fringe case here something like that like like how often do

04:51:24.240 we really think that that's going on like i understand that women can can hide things i

04:51:29.120 understand that they can delete bms i understand that they can do those things i don't want to make

04:51:32.880 it seem like it's something that is like completely and utterly abnormal especially in the modern dating

04:51:38.480 world but again like i think you can tell when you're dating like a total freaking narcissist

04:51:46.240 a total sociopath okay like again pattern recognition all right we have marquavius martin

04:51:56.240 it will be michelin star and will change your life oh i i can't do it okay priya don't wear your safari

04:52:04.400 outfit wear your hair up brian wear your hair up as well brian you have to bring a girl i can't do right

04:52:12.720 now to defend priya i don't want you staring i don't want you staring at us while we eat bring

04:52:18.080 madison if you must if we bring madison we got to bring frankie so can i say something about my

04:52:23.360 outfit yeah no no i don't i don't care if they're dissing it but people in the chat think my shirt is

04:52:28.000 denim and it's not it's satin she wants to clarify that piece of information can somebody who's in the

04:52:35.200 chat maybe brandon can do this brandon i don't know if you're still watching okay i don't know if you're

04:52:40.240 still watching but okay trump can you can you make a photo with priya with one of those like old

04:52:47.520 school safari hats and send it to our instagram and we'll show it on the stream or somebody like

04:52:54.720 just a little photoshop a cheapo photoshop thank you man to be fair yeah if priya had like a show on

04:53:02.080 animal planet like i'd probably watch honestly if priya had a show on animal you look like if she was a

04:53:09.440 true safari girl with the hat i would watch she's a horse girl i would watch but hey martin thank you

04:53:14.720 very much we're gonna we're gonna talk about this i'm gonna email you sir it is a very i will email

04:53:19.280 you to get this not in a bad way at all all right we have puffy vegas positive bryant question oh he

04:53:26.160 just disrespected the fuck out of you he put a y and a t major disrespect the biggest disrespect though

04:53:32.160 is when they do brain that is rude is it disrespectful or does it just show their lack

04:53:37.760 of uh ability yeah to check their grammar it's all of the above right question to the girls no bs can

04:53:44.960 a win why man he's not cheap i don't believe it is possible can a woman not this guy's drunk too

04:53:50.960 yeah he has been cheated on he's trying to say the same statement three different times

04:53:59.760 doing the cheating guys maybe there's a language barrier guys he lives in vegas

04:54:06.640 i'm trying to throw out anything in and of itself it's a different country yeah yeah we need mr puffy to

04:54:12.160 call into a show and we need to get the scoop on what's going on with miss give him a hotline to

04:54:18.000 call right he is he is an amplified version of what a lot of men think actually i'm just gonna

04:54:22.800 like call him like like that that whole concept this is like we go back to that thing i said earlier

04:54:28.000 about like the female version of chivalry one of the one of the things that women can do as a duty to

04:54:32.160 their man you need to more so than him you need to go out of your way to showcase loyalty to him

04:54:40.080 that is something like because of what you said you said women cheat just as much as men they're just

04:54:43.920 better at hiding it it's because of their access to it women their barrier to cheating is so much

04:54:50.240 lower because men are pursuing them they don't need to go out of their way to pursue somebody else

04:54:53.760 okay that's a good point okay so women going out of their way to demonstrate loyalty to their man in

04:54:58.880 very very overt ways that is also something but that doesn't always work with high value men right

04:55:05.280 that have like a bunch of options because i've recently dated like a man that i considered a how

04:55:11.360 a high value man and like you know how you were discussing earlier about like approaching a high

04:55:15.360 value man at the bar and how he might reject you because he has options of like other beautiful

04:55:19.520 women like how does that fit into what you're saying like right now what do you mean approaching versus

04:55:25.520 versus loyalty that those are two very very different things um i lost my train of thought but

04:55:31.360 the question was there i'm sorry i just i just want to say puffy i tried on instagram i tried calling you

04:55:36.640 from the whatever instagram so what are you still in the chat i'll call you from we'll put you on the

04:55:44.160 stream right now puffy if you want um all right bye felicia pepe la pew replaced chris brown

04:55:51.760 dope uh i think that was that was that was when we were talking about like chris brown yeah thank you

04:55:58.720 bye felicia appreciate it puffy vegas i've never bought women anything you don't have to buy women wait why is

04:56:05.600 there why why is there a why okay if a woman likes you 90 my days are just come over i'm sorry excuse

04:56:15.520 me but that that's actually kind of true though what does that mean i don't know that that means

04:56:19.760 that if she actually likes you 90 of the time it's not even about taking her out on dates it's like hey

04:56:23.440 let's come over and chill and again at a certain point in time if she likes you that is exactly what

04:56:27.600 it is and it's not hey let's netflix and chill no it's like come over let's spend some time together

04:56:31.760 but no we don't need to go out i love that i prefer that most of the time yeah but once i know

04:56:37.440 somebody sure yeah definitely not for a first yeah if a woman actually likes you it's easy to tell

04:56:43.680 and therefore it is just 90 of the days is like let's just hang out yeah absolutely no i i completely

04:56:49.200 agree with that but i think his argument is like it seemed i i don't know it it doesn't seem like he's

04:56:58.000 finding women that he's going to get into some sort of relationship yeah remember when he we

04:57:03.120 looked at his instagram last week and like he had like so many different like random women on there

04:57:08.480 like you're not like demonstrating like really what you want allowing women to i don't i don't think

04:57:13.360 that you're surrounding yourself with people with decent moral values i would ask what would it take

04:57:20.720 for you to trust a woman that would be that would be very simple because again like maybe you can't trust

04:57:25.520 anybody like not to get too deep but like like what would it take like what's the barrier for you

04:57:31.440 to be like it's good enough like it's good enough i can trust or are you just out completely self-reflection

04:57:38.000 is key whoa that was deep so deep so deep okay we have by felicia approximately 24 people are killed

04:57:50.080 each year by champagne bottle corks depending on the conditions a cork would need to be under three bars

04:57:54.800 of pressure to travel at 60 miles per hour i was yeah it's dangerous it's dangerous my hand is still

04:58:01.120 contused okay puffy vegas thank you man this woman is just joking no man would be offended about what

04:58:07.200 you wanted to pay every man i've known has had women paid for dinner why do you not believe the truth

04:58:13.120 you are the reason why i would never pay for any women one one in one in one in oh my god how did you

04:58:22.080 spell the same word differently three times michael sartain said it best grammarly get it grammarly

04:58:28.400 there's a free version folks we have by felicia some men concerned about being screamed at or labeled

04:58:35.920 as creepy for simply greeting a girl toby addison a blind man was bizarrely asked to leave a gym

04:58:41.600 after being accused of checking a woman out joey swole good points good points this is related to uh

04:58:53.440 men's hesitation to approach i suppose and we don't get to just blame our hormones and say oh my

04:58:59.280 testosterone was acting up can't do that well men do make some blanket statements like oh that's just my

04:59:05.840 nature this and that is another way to say my testosterone's always on that high level but i don't

04:59:10.560 necessarily think that that's a bad thing but it's not only women who are blaming their biology for

04:59:16.560 their ways that they are sure i think it happens on both ends but but but it's considered but

04:59:23.040 basically we're considered to be like predatory yes like like like this whole situation like it's not

04:59:28.000 just like oh my god you're being a nag right like like it's like you are you're being predatory in a

04:59:34.560 setting where women are now like made to feel uncomfortable and it's just like all i do is check you out

04:59:39.520 yeah okay because that's literally what men do is objectify you in order to see if they want to

04:59:45.040 approach you and maybe date you and it's literally just the way that we're wired biologically we have

04:59:50.800 trenton kingsley here hey thank you man uh thanks for the long podcast bryant makes work easier add

04:59:58.320 some colors to the whatever merch billy ray thank you too for your videos madison 07 always lovely to see

05:00:09.440 you from trenton kingsley thank you senior trenton kingsley he's like a stand-up guy trenton

05:00:18.320 what a chad what a legend okay um what chad chad comes from incel dumb yeah on reddit is actually

05:00:29.120 that's right you're correct it dates back actually it dates back to actually you know since we're on

05:00:34.480 the top of incel don't you think together don't you think it is kind of not ironic but like a crazy

05:00:43.600 coincidence that this podcast takes place in isla vista which is where not i won't say incel

05:00:51.520 culture brewed oh but it is where no most oh most incels wait incel dumb uh was created in new

05:00:58.800 hampshire by a governor on reddit but hold on the most where incel culture is now actually started

05:01:04.240 where they say like the incel um like their king their warrior is elliot rogers jesus christ that's

05:01:10.640 where let's not let's not let's not talk about that's not one of our prohibited words or topics

05:01:14.960 yeah but it's just that's one that's a big part of this whole little complicated prohibited topic

05:01:20.480 let's just uh his actions let's not talk about it's not any of the words that were

05:01:26.000 yeah but i don't really feel like talking about like i'm sure you don't shooting well i wasn't

05:01:30.800 eating at that i wasn't going to go into details about what happened i just i was just bringing up how

05:01:34.800 i thought it was thank you i've donated 100 puffy my god stop messing with drunk women on the strip

05:01:41.760 and go to church being cutting into my ammo budget now kept up the good work alabama if i had sock

05:01:48.160 media i shoot my shot but i don't sad face lock darogar wait what does lock darogar mean for the horde

05:01:56.320 for the horde i'm thinking about deleting my social media she's thinking about deleting her social media

05:02:03.920 and as far as the origins of chad uh according to google it's a rooted in the old english name

05:02:13.760 chiada that's not what we're talking about or defender just saying i'm just saying don't

05:02:21.040 worry about don't worry chads and stacy's and all those blonde blue hot attractive ladies so we've

05:02:28.960 gone through all the super chats here we've gotten liquored up you're the only one intoxicated here

05:02:36.560 that's not okay fine i i will you're a lightweight brian i will revise my statement it's kind of it's

05:02:42.960 good i'm liquored up um thank you uh to cheers brandon nails uh before we wrap up would anyone like

05:02:55.360 a final word this has been my favorite podcast episode i've been on yet has it it has this has

05:03:01.760 been lovely i just we didn't really argue much maybe we should know there was a cat fight last time

05:03:07.120 on the other side it's why i'm not wait did you not like michael sartain huh do you not like michael

05:03:15.520 sartain um i think wait were you on i've never been on with michael sartain michael the michael

05:03:21.040 knowles podcast i liked a lot as well but i feel like sometimes he he's a very well educated well

05:03:27.920 spoken man but at points he'll try to say things to trigger the other side that goes unseen where he

05:03:35.120 will say things blatantly to get a reaction out of people that won't be seen as such michael sartain

05:03:40.880 i think he is another one of the very well spoken on the other side but he has a lot of things he says

05:03:45.920 that are easily country like even when he was on here with his uh girl the first time he came on

05:03:52.320 here there was a few things that they said together where i was like um like he's talking about oh

05:03:58.000 instagrams have to be a certain way and i don't want my girl posting this out in the third but then

05:04:01.360 if you go on his girl's instagram page it's yes exactly except but he but he did say that he like

05:04:08.560 he was a bikini model like um person so he was like totally okay with that let's not talk about

05:04:13.760 the man well he's we're not trash here let's not talk about the man while he's not here at the

05:04:18.320 table we're not trashing it shout out michael sartain we're going to talk the one of the guys

05:04:21.760 mo mr puffy vegas yeah that guy sustain abuse i don't know who zirka is he just like started

05:04:30.160 popping up recently this is a new one i'm going to put you and like the most disagreeable people

05:04:35.200 we've had on the panel with the zirka i think i think we'll do that um okay there is a fight that

05:04:40.480 broke puffy vegas there's a physical fight no not a physical fight i mean a discussion about

05:04:44.880 a physical fight a cat fight okay oh puffy vegas can talk to the panel dude check your instagram

05:04:51.680 check your dms i've been trying to call you so panel wrong but you're not panel it's through

05:04:57.600 instagram though puffy vegas i feel like instagram calling dog okay hold on i was gonna ignore this

05:05:03.600 i'm not pregnant let's not start i'm not pregnant wait he sent it twice i've just gained weight it's

05:05:08.720 just the angle i mean come on kiko let's not know i'm i'm i'm purposely trying very very hard to gain

05:05:14.640 weight like this is huh you're trying to get thick i'm trying to get thick i'm trying to get

05:05:19.760 huh you're trying to with the help of my boyfriend he's encouraging it but okay i have gained weight

05:05:24.640 i've gained 20 pounds since the last time i was on really yes i have gained 20 pounds but it's not

05:05:30.480 due to pregnancy i have an iud oh speaking of iud's who here's on birth control

05:05:39.680 you are i just got off this month you just got off this month which one did you get off

05:05:45.120 with do you feel amazing okay um no it's been a rough month i'm sure it'll take some time yeah all

05:05:52.640 over but we've been doing a lot of research and i felt like a hypocrite being on birth control

05:05:57.920 you look great content i post you feel like being a hypocrite on birth control with the

05:06:01.120 content you post because of why because i feel like birth control perpetuates hookup culture so

05:06:06.240 and it also is horrible for your health once you look into it yeah if you read the book um beyond

05:06:11.520 the pill it'll change your view on everything it's insane did you feel like emotionally unstable

05:06:18.160 or no i actually felt great on birth control yeah um but i have it's a rough come down um you said

05:06:26.640 it's been a difficult well it definitely yeah it just was like your hormones yeah when you come

05:06:30.400 off with like you're like oh my gosh i feel emotions again that was the weird thing so you were kind of

05:06:34.560 numb before because i've never been on birth control ever i've never i wouldn't say i was numb it's just

05:06:38.400 like i i'm more in touch with my body now and i can feel the different times of the month and also

05:06:44.480 like i started breaking out because my hormones just kind of freaked out um that's interesting because

05:06:50.880 the last well i think maybe the very last episode they had with michael sartain or maybe the one

05:06:55.040 you're on with whatever one it was he said that his girlfriend had just gotten off and it's been

05:06:59.280 amazing and she feels great and it's been a world of a difference a lot of people do yeah i can see

05:07:04.320 both sides but let's be careful when you say it perpetuates hookup culture because it can i

05:07:10.720 definitely see that sentence but not every woman is on birth control because of hookup culture because

05:07:14.800 she wants to just sleep with every man she can i think the stabilizing hormones things is not true

05:07:20.720 that's not even the point i was gonna say but let me continue my point it could be for multiple

05:07:25.200 reasons cat fight one well you're not even close one we know that not every time a woman can make

05:07:31.840 her own informed decision so it is a sometimes backup plan so she doesn't have to do other things that

05:07:37.680 she doesn't want to do two i don't want to start convincing a bunch of women to not take birth control

05:07:42.400 because that can also have a very negative effect going into things so just let everyone make their own

05:07:47.920 conscious decision and not i think a lot of people aren't informed of what birth control is

05:07:51.840 actually doing to their body yeah i mean and i feel like if you're not hand you this pill i was not

05:07:56.800 informed no but i think that's kind of common sense like i mean it's no they're incentivized the doctors

05:08:01.200 are incentivized a lot of people aren't even realizing that they're synthetic hormones and that the

05:08:05.520 synthetic hormones actually do much different things than your real hormones would do so read beyond

05:08:10.560 the pill sorry i thought i thought that was maybe read the book that's maybe naive of me to feel like

05:08:14.640 that's common sense to understand putting something in your body that's literally trying to change how

05:08:19.440 your body works is going to have effects all of your nutrient supplies once you come off birth control

05:08:24.160 um to get those nutrients back i can't i'm not a doctor i can't really explain it well but there is

05:08:30.240 such a deficit that the only way to get those nutrients back in my body are going to be um through

05:08:36.720 supplements you can do it through diet but it would take months and months and months because the

05:08:40.960 supply is just like so low in your can i ask you a personal question so have you taken like blood

05:08:45.920 tests to figure out like deficiencies i'm actually doing that this week i i'm in touch with a neuro

05:08:51.040 neuropath neuropathy yeah they they recommend different blood tests and also in the book that

05:08:57.920 i'm reading they tell you the whole panel it's like a neuroscience slash like homeopathic person it's

05:09:02.720 like a yeah it's like the like the natural doctors homeopathic medicine got it okay my whole

05:09:09.200 point is this podcast the viewers are mostly men right we all know that they don't make a lot of

05:09:15.920 do their own research so it's not their gender let's not i just i'm saying like you said you're

05:09:21.440 not a doctor so when it comes to those things let's not start saying things and pushing things

05:09:25.440 because what i don't want these men to now go on and be like oh get off birth control don't do this i

05:09:30.960 heard this on the spot you should touch the reason we're not doctors another big reason i got off is

05:09:35.440 because like our next step in our relationship would be marriage and when you're on the reason

05:09:40.960 a reason that divorce rates are elevating or increasing um is because when women come off

05:09:48.320 birth controls typically when they get married and their hormones change so much that when they're

05:09:53.360 married they're not attracted to their spouse anymore pheromones and it's also a selection thing

05:09:58.160 there are studies and one of the studies is mapped out in the book but there is a study that was that

05:10:02.720 that was performed that showcased that women who were not on birth control so have natural occurring

05:10:08.240 hormones they will mate select with men who have the most different immune systems to them imaginable

05:10:16.480 because it makes their kid more immune to more things women who are on birth control would select

05:10:22.720 for the exact opposite so there are like very very natural selection oriented things and sexual selection

05:10:29.200 things that the pill will fundamentally change about you and a lot of women like she said will

05:10:34.000 literally just pheromones change and they are no longer attracted to their husband that's a really

05:10:38.640 interesting topic i've never heard of before i would love to do more research beyond the pill

05:10:43.040 who's on birth control right now i just want to say show hands i just want to say

05:10:48.240 for the brian for the um hookup culture point if you look at a graph um when birth control came out

05:10:58.400 the instances of premarital sex skyrocketed within those few years which would be a very very positive

05:11:05.360 correlation to hookup culture being perpetuated by it i understand what you're saying you're saying

05:11:09.360 that like listen you're not a doctor so let's not promote not taking your medication because women

05:11:14.160 take medication and birth control for period cramps uh but there's way more effective ways to actually

05:11:20.480 get rid of absolutely i'm i'm actually i actually shouldn't have period cramps i'm i'm not on birth

05:11:25.600 control i'm i'm on the same page as you i'm just trying to play devil's advocate here where it's like

05:11:30.080 you don't want to push someone to not take medication that they need you just want to encourage

05:11:33.840 them to kind of do the research on their own yeah right right yeah that's why i'm saying let's

05:11:38.560 stray away from just saying absolutely because you guys will be the same people to be like sorry

05:11:44.400 not to try to go there but it would be the same people to be like pro-life what can you do if

05:11:48.000 they're not informed you gotta be informed okay so you're saying don't you tell your woman don't

05:11:51.360 be on birth control don't do this in the third but then also they don't have a choice to do they

05:11:55.840 they do have the choice just trying to move it away no they do have the choice have safe sex

05:12:01.280 a condom is not 100 percent um when a condom combined with taking your temperature every day

05:12:06.720 is very tracking your ovulation it's actually you're getting a very close percentage to birth control

05:12:11.920 i didn't listen please guys safe sex it's really important make sure your chick wears a condom

05:12:24.800 make sure guys female condoms are that's not to prevent pregnancy that's to prevent stds of the

05:12:30.160 throat no this is no this isn't a dental dam my dear this is a female condom aren't those statistics

05:12:37.920 that it's like really not that high of um i don't know i've never seen one i'm like i'm so curious

05:12:43.840 the the circumference is large and that's your preference right huh no bro don't throw women

05:12:51.520 with audis under the bus like that i'm not i'm not i'm on your side listen audis doesn't have to do

05:12:58.000 with the like you know i know you could be tight and have an outie i'm aware i'm aware please do not

05:13:04.480 disrespect please stop being such a misogynist okay listen i'm blm okay you are a

05:13:12.160 misogynist my dear i'm big lady as a feminist i will not stand for your misogyny the rules are

05:13:18.800 versus what's happening what's an average labia yeah i don't know he asked me last time if i had

05:13:23.920 an in-ear in abby what's a big labia versus the bigger the better this came up last time where she

05:13:29.680 was the girl that followed me was like how low do you go who did you fight with uh the girl that was

05:13:33.840 sitting on the end what was her name oh the light-skinned girl i have a question do you put do you

05:13:37.920 purposely put huh do you purposely put light-skinned girls in the first seat now always so it kind

05:13:42.880 of looks like it's me no there's been a few panels where like oh i'm like i wasn't on that panel i'm

05:13:47.920 like oh that's just another light-skinned girl do i purposely what put the light-skinned girls in

05:13:52.320 this first seat now so it looks like i'm sitting here on like a quick glance

05:13:55.840 all right wow okay what is that i don't know how do you choose the seating on a real note i've been

05:14:07.200 sat here every single time i try to make yeah well he puts the most he puts who he thinks is going to

05:14:13.360 be the most like combative and vocal in this seat you were right and then he tried to separate us onto

05:14:18.400 like arguing on both sides and he thinks more it's like more trad wife conservative on that side and the

05:14:23.920 more three or four liberal not normal i remember the second time i came on here she's got no like

05:14:30.400 this is no nothing wow but i remember it was me and then it was like only fans only fans only fans

05:14:37.840 and i'm like this is why everyone keeps commenting that i'm on only fans i thought i was going to learn

05:14:44.240 so much about only fans tonight this is this means usually usually you are not the

05:14:49.200 you're usually the majority this would mean that i have been demoted as i was sitting there last

05:14:54.720 time and now i'm sitting here that's what i was thanks brian when he said you're on this site i was

05:14:58.240 like but you're kind of you're kind of um like i found the seating interesting i was like huh i was

05:15:03.440 over there last time you're hard to read which is good she almost got her ass whooped last show

05:15:09.680 i did by by two very strong independent feminists oh they're friends they're friends speaking oh no

05:15:16.160 one i went to their instagrams they had pictures together they were tag team really one last thing

05:15:20.160 here about birth control of course i'm being safe i pull out of course 72 effective wait of course is

05:15:29.760 that nick is that nick or brian nick wait what i see you she thinks she's got it figured out who commented

05:15:38.080 that what what's your name put some respect what's his name put some respect on nick's name what's

05:15:44.720 his name put some respect on nick's name yeah it's neck okay okay don't make me feel like where's eric

05:15:50.960 uh he is no longer eric is no longer with us like in life no no he's alive he's alive he's still alive guys

05:16:05.920 no it was fine he just there was some work he has another job there were conflicts he put in his

05:16:14.320 two weeks notice it was amicable we wish him the best we miss you eric we miss you eric we miss you and your

05:16:24.720 presence presence thank you

05:16:26.560 um okay uh let's wrap up here last call does anyone have anything final final what's up what

05:16:33.920 you got okay so i came on to just tell my fellow christian singles that use your singleness season

05:16:41.520 to thrive and um because you can use it if people usually mope about it and waste it but you can use

05:16:49.120 a single season just to really devote to god and it's going to change your life like for real and your

05:16:54.560 foundation will be set and god will send you that person when he's ready so don't worry about dating

05:16:58.960 apps or when this person's going to come but like even paul refers to it as a gift so yeah that's

05:17:05.760 beautiful as a girl that is great advice a guy will certainly show up at some point yes oh as my advice

05:17:13.760 to men i advice to men i feel like a lot of people have lost this during covid but i'm kidding

05:17:22.480 i'm kidding i'm kidding angry go ahead um my advice would be to get out there more um join groups not

05:17:32.320 just for the sake of finding a relationship but just to get out there more i know too many men who

05:17:36.720 and not just men women in general but i guess men or women can get away with it more so that's why i'm

05:17:40.240 speaking to men um get out there don't just go to work and go home and watch a five-hour podcast go out

05:17:47.600 play play find a hobby maybe go to church i don't know like fine do something that

05:17:54.880 do something that you enjoy so maybe you could find someone there is what i would say i don't know

05:17:59.680 pick up pickleball maybe i don't work pickleball so much if you see yourself and to men if you

05:18:05.680 if you see yourself as a five and you're afraid of rejection that's something you have to overcome and

05:18:10.480 just kind of put on a little bravado and get yourself out there and don't just uh settle for

05:18:17.600 nothing or accept the fact that there's like this chasm between men and women like put in the effort

05:18:22.880 and try a new haircut maybe like i totally agree you said like a few months in the gym a shopping spree

05:18:30.080 does wonders working on your personal character spending time with yourself like you just said uh

05:18:34.960 like focusing on god and uh whether or not your version of god is jesus or whatever it is i think

05:18:40.560 that's really important to work on yourself first before you know that can someone take this device

05:18:45.760 away from him yeah we need to contest this soundboard you prove this podcast that you do not have

05:18:51.840 enough you know jacked up my mountain dew making bad decisions sorry oh my god okay yo thank you

05:19:02.480 raven 100 you guys do after shows says the girl who is too afraid to approach men i see you i thought

05:19:08.560 it okay okay i'm a little afraid to approach men sue me all right all right i'm working on it all right

05:19:15.280 i'm a work in progress i think i think rejection is a good thing for people to go through it builds

05:19:20.480 character it humbles you for both men and women and you just need to put yourself out there it's

05:19:26.320 just like how i teach my like kids how they have to like learn how to lose and not always win or get

05:19:32.240 everything they want yeah it's good this has been a good slice of humble pie very this is not what i

05:19:39.040 was prepared for at all but you know it's all good what were you prepared for all the way she wanted

05:19:44.400 the cat fight she won from michigan i don't know i expected something i don't know what

05:19:50.240 you gotta start it i feel like this has been a very productive panel in my business well

05:19:55.760 you just i don't know it's good it's all good there's i just thought there'd be more of girls

05:20:01.760 that were bigger than me oh my she was i love the honesty i love the honest no seriously because i

05:20:08.160 wanted to know more about business she's like i'm on here for clout so well i mean if you watch

05:20:13.440 now i'm here i'm actually here because i like brian to be honest with you i watched many of his shows

05:20:18.000 and thought he was great so i applied no not like did you did you make him not like that not sexual

05:20:23.920 way like i like him as a person i like his values so i traveled here because i like i like to listen to

05:20:30.080 the fact i just give it to you brian out of all the like red pill podcast you are one of the more

05:20:38.880 enjoyable that's very true yes that is very true definitely and i thought about i can tell you don't

05:20:44.480 hate women i thought about bringing you a ring i was gonna get you a fake ring and bring it i was

05:20:50.240 gonna you know i had ideas he loves when women dump over him so he does oh yeah and he loves when they

05:20:56.080 do them you know the masculine do so if you propose i might just bring him in that might be

05:21:01.920 his dream um you pay on the first day mama i don't fit into his quote he'll fall on his knees for

05:21:06.720 you yeah yeah wear sweatpants on your first day man do you want kids brian yeah you do not my kids

05:21:14.160 but i'd like how many kids kids and big labia that's what i know about you let's not put those

05:21:18.880 two together oh yeah wait on the bright side you might get both that's not what i was saying

05:21:25.040 that's not what i was saying no i know that 100 it's okay if she doesn't approach men that's where

05:21:32.720 i come in so me a coffee next week are you white and nerdy in which case sure

05:21:42.000 what's that like how gotta get him white and nerdy or something i like him white

05:21:46.720 do you guys all think that you guys are more attracted to a certain race or is it not a thing

05:21:51.200 too yeah i used to be afraid vietnamese women sorry i would say yes but i've dated and been

05:21:58.240 attracted to people already if i were to like describe to you my dream guy then yeah i would

05:22:04.320 i would have a specific race because i would i used to say to you like oh i had a type of

05:22:08.400 race but when i look at my track record it's all over the place yeah exactly the only thing i could

05:22:11.760 say in common is usually they do have tan or skin if it could be a white tan man or a light skinned

05:22:18.640 tan man or a hispanic tan man i do usually get drawn to that and like the brown darker features

05:22:24.720 yeah but i don't think i've ever been like oh he's blonde and blue eyes like that's not my

05:22:28.960 when i when i was like hyper feminist like in my like 18 to 20 like age range

05:22:36.640 that's that's when i would be too afraid to admit that i like dated based on race or like that i had a

05:22:42.240 certain type but i'm not afraid to say it anymore it's like it is what it is we all have our preferences

05:22:46.800 did you say yes to brandon i said if he's white and nerdy oh if he's white and nerdy and then we

05:22:54.880 start talking about racial preferences about okay the disdain in your voice um okay so

05:23:07.520 did everyone else answer there was another question there you were just doing closing

05:23:10.800 comments you were asking me a question right i i talked about big labia and then that was pretty

05:23:16.000 much i asked if you wanted kids big labia check i said i had an innie why would you ask me

05:23:22.480 wait oh no the kids the kids the kids was that you or is that kiko who asked yeah i'll have seven

05:23:28.880 kids would be good seven god wow okay elon better get started yeah he has a guy

05:23:38.960 is that what the lapel means oh yes how much how much was it to reveal what the lapel means

05:23:45.280 i don't well the the price was get my clips channel to a million subscribers then i'll reveal and i think

05:23:53.200 that was the price so you say seven a lot huh you like pick the number like seven's your default number

05:23:59.760 whenever a number is brought up um wait but what was i saying um there's a there's a bible verse

05:24:10.960 there's a bible verse and it goes maybe you know it it goes something along the lines of

05:24:16.400 children are like air fuck children wow children are like arrows in the hand of a warrior that's

05:24:29.440 beautiful brian in his quiver what's that in his quiver wait hold on arrows children quiver

05:24:36.640 i don't know let me you just told me not to mention but i know that's what i was gonna say

05:24:42.720 you guys talk to me about children this is psalm 127 3 to 5 children are a heritage from the lord

05:24:50.080 offspring a reward from him like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one's youth

05:24:58.640 preach i did it when i was young i did it right oh blessed i do hold on blessed is the man whose

05:25:06.000 quiver is full of them do this just turn into church right now what's going on you should be

05:25:10.400 on an episode with there's also like the christian you're at church like the quiver full movement

05:25:14.720 i can't do it maybe that's for you here me too me too i just feel like i might light on fire

05:25:22.640 i would like seven children because i feel like my family's not huge and i want to start that i want

05:25:30.720 to have a big family i do too that's wholesome i want to have a big family but i also understand

05:25:35.920 economics and how the system works so yes seven children is like elon style i could still have

05:25:41.600 a very fruitful life yeah for sure so seven's a little pushy three four reach out real good

05:25:47.520 i asked god if i could have four kids three boys one girl when i was at a very very young age right

05:25:52.160 i forgot to ask for my partner though so god gave me what i asked for he just didn't do it right

05:25:58.320 you know that's a cool that's actually crazy but i have three boys one girl where are the odds

05:26:04.000 hey you got what you asked i got what i asked for but a little too well

05:26:09.680 a little too accurate you know wait here's the thing let's say how many how many children do you

05:26:14.080 most of you want like two or three or something three let me ask you a question though let's say

05:26:17.600 your husband really wants a son and you end up having two or three daughters right and he's like

05:26:23.120 really really wants a son do you keep going are we financially if i could if we could

05:26:27.520 financially afford it i would try again but we're stopping at five because because me five is crazy

05:26:32.720 i have to have at least one son i get that i don't care to carry on the name to carry on no i just want

05:26:38.800 a son uh wait what's the reason like i just want a daughter i just want a son i want a son

05:26:45.280 because i feel like i i couldn't relate as much to a dog my boyfriend always says i just know i'm not

05:26:51.520 gonna have any daughters i know i'm only gonna produce sons and i'm like you keep saying that

05:26:55.600 and you're gonna get all daughters i'm like yeah and i don't want all daughters so women are more

05:27:00.080 women are just more complex in in so many ways it would be in my opinion it would be probably

05:27:05.360 fairly easy to raise them when they're younger because they're just like less aggressive and

05:27:08.400 rowdy but the moment that they like get to the point where they're like hitting puberty i would

05:27:13.120 imagine it would be unbelievably challenging to parent a daughter relative to a son like a daughter

05:27:20.080 the worst thing you could have with the daughter she's a hoe the worst thing you could have with

05:27:23.200 the son he's a mass murderer i mean it's like it's too very like what a hoe and a mass murderer i

05:27:29.360 don't have a whole daughter than a freaking mass it's almost as a minute but how but the statistics

05:27:34.800 this but all i'm but my point is though like i feel like a lot of people do say that all the time

05:27:38.720 like how scared they are to raise a daughter and da da da but i feel like people are you definitely

05:27:43.280 they're negating how hard it is to raise a son not because i feel like they're going to become

05:27:46.400 with this aggressive violent man but i feel like so many people place so much more effort

05:27:50.720 on their daughters instead of their sons and that's why we have so many emotionally unavailable

05:27:55.440 men who don't know how to regulate or are forgotten because it's just as important to raise your son as

05:28:00.560 it is to raise your daughter this is your son you're raising someone who's hopefully going to one day court

05:28:06.000 a daughter and raise a family with him and we all are saying how important it is for that man to be

05:28:11.200 sound so i feel like it's really big deal with raising young men especially in this generation

05:28:17.200 we're in now when there's a lot of things targeting them against their backs and stuff like that so i

05:28:23.840 feel like it's i'm very scared to raise a son especially because i don't think my wafer would

05:28:28.480 ever do this to me if we had families but i could not imagine having kids with someone having sons and

05:28:33.680 then them leaving me and having to raise these sons as a single mother on my own that's terrifying

05:28:38.720 well this begs the question um gay son or thought daughter that's what people always say

05:28:47.280 okay um uh let's uh wait wait hold on let me see did we get any more chats let me just double

05:28:54.880 check okay nope nope nope um by the way uh can i put in a good word for brandon the guy who's going

05:29:02.800 to take you out on a coffee date i mean he already paid because that's four thousand dollars tonight

05:29:06.480 it's a pretty good word on its own that is a foregone conclusion the coffee date um

05:29:13.200 there was one time we were in a locker room

05:29:15.040 and let me just say this dude's like a fucking tripod like what the fuck bruv

05:29:24.080 huge it's huge talk him up giant so you actually know that would be painful i don't like that no

05:29:31.360 woman likes that brian no woman likes it you know larger than average what's you know what some

05:29:37.600 people do but they're lying somebody's mic they're lying i agree 500 i think i don't know 500

05:29:44.400 i feel like there's all right let's wrap up let's wrap up all right so should we do an after show you

05:29:51.200 want to sperm decides the gender not the egg i mean you want to do like if it's really short

05:29:58.720 i think we just wrapped what's the after show what are you guys doing now like what's the after

05:30:03.440 show we dim the lights and then it's like kind of more chill you just shoot the shift if anybody

05:30:08.000 has to leave the past two hours no no like if you you don't have to stay for it um how about

05:30:13.360 madison do you want to do like 15 minute after show if it's 15 minutes she's so down for this

05:30:22.480 after show right now someone said we should smoke a blunt okay cool i'm down for that i'm down well

05:30:27.200 i if everyone's gonna stay for the after show we might as well just i feel like we've already been

05:30:33.040 doing this on for 15 more minutes right as soon as the champagne bottle came out it was basically

05:30:38.560 the after show yeah we haven't really been on topic we got a little bit for the birth control for a

05:30:43.920 second but this guy is on fire oh brandon on fire um hold on hit me up so we got to get brian's

05:30:52.880 tolerance up i don't think it's possible i don't drink a lot like i rarely drink so you took like

05:30:57.920 two sips it's rare okay guys last call hit the like button please on your way out we are going to

05:31:02.320 do a very brief after show 10 15 minutes we're gonna by the way if anybody i know it's late so you

05:31:08.000 don't have to stay for the after show you can excuse yourself thank you for tuning in tonight you

05:31:12.320 could have been anywhere in the world but you were here with me i appreciate that thank you to

05:31:15.360 everyone so who so generously and kindly super chatted donated and supported the show tonight

05:31:20.400 you guys were uh i very much appreciate your patronage tonight thank you guys thank you to the

05:31:25.200 wonderful panel for joining us many of which who came from locations exotic far and wide thank you from

05:31:32.960 distances far and wide thank you to our chat mods big thank you to brit who's helping with timestamps

05:31:37.440 any women who want to be on the show dm at whatever on instagram uh we'll be live again

05:31:43.440 tuesday 7 p.m pacific with our next dating talk oh sevens in the chat if you're leaving and if you're

05:31:49.840 sticking around for the brief after show uh i suppose you can also do some oh sevens in the chat go follow

05:31:57.760 billy ray check out her uh clips follow dm dating for all the oh

05:32:02.640 oh man we got it right okay they got we we were gonna pull up some of their videos but uh they

05:32:11.040 have some like really fucking base stuff so go check them out and uh go check out mia's

05:32:18.560 men ask me shop check out madison's uh she collects war antiques check out priya's safari

05:32:27.680 equipment check out um michaela michaela's roll tab medical advice alabama stuff yeah bourbon i guess

05:32:37.280 check out nicole's do you drink bourbon i don't know okay all right guys after show starts

05:32:44.000 right now oh wow that's cool oh my god this is way better is way cuter oh my god this is 10 times

05:32:59.200 that's how we started the after show the reason why this was your favorite podcast is because and i'm

05:33:05.280 not saying this to to pat my back or pat anyone else's back first of all i don't think we've ever

05:33:09.920 had as many people who lean more toward this side on a panel so that's for one secondly a lot of the

05:33:18.320 conversations were not like aggressively culturally divided i think there were actually quite a few

05:33:26.080 way more than i could have imagined actual somewhat productive dating conversations that occurred

05:33:31.360 where i think i specifically saw a lot of you have your eyes open up and go oh wait a second that

05:33:36.560 actually kind of makes sense which is usually not this is again not not against him that's not

05:33:42.160 usually how the show goes there's usually a lot of like a lot of like really really like hotly

05:33:47.040 divided topics in dating and then like aggressive cultural right your trans debate a crazy stuff about

05:33:52.560 like patriarchy i was hoping we were going to talk about barbie that would have been fun but like

05:33:57.520 but like that kind of but yeah it was actually a conversation about the interdynamics of dating

05:34:03.680 dating that's not necessarily going to make for the most like crazy viral content right like i've

05:34:08.560 been on this podcast this might be like my around my eighth time now and there's about three podcasts

05:34:15.760 i was on that go around and it's because we hit on those hot topics so i've been on here before where

05:34:20.880 it was very cordial kind of how it was tonight but it was boring and i feel like i didn't really learn

05:34:24.560 much and we really just blabbed about nothing whereas tonight it was kind of a bit more productive

05:34:29.760 tour was my favorite but yeah it's like those hot topics get hit we bring up the bible we bring up

05:34:37.360 trans all these different topics especially when half the side of the panel is there this is their

05:34:44.400 livelihood right this is what they do every day day in day out go on podcasts tweet and tick tock

05:34:50.560 about parabonding and the bible and these things whereas me he just dm'd me to come on this show and

05:34:57.600 i said sure never even watching or viewing at one time this isn't my livelihood this isn't what i do

05:35:02.320 for work or a career so like for them it makes sense for them to be sitting up all day researching

05:35:08.960 these topics and these facts whereas me no i'm not going to go home after and google psalms this or

05:35:16.640 pair bonding this because it doesn't affect me on my day-to-day life i'm a bartender like i don't

05:35:22.000 make this content so that's where we would bump heads a lot is because they would pull out all

05:35:27.120 these facts or whatever and i'm just pulling out what i experience as a normal person and

05:35:34.080 yeah that's kind of where we would bump heads tts by the way has been reduced to 20. that's part of the

05:35:40.880 and uh so if you guys wanted tts we bumped it all the way down to uh 20. to ask more questions

05:35:49.760 by the way i think that your story i know it was five and a half hours ago your story is probably

05:35:54.720 going to get you onto the podcast to talk about the things that you want to talk about you're going

05:35:58.160 to go viral since we are don't you oh it's terrible like everything i didn't want to talk about we

05:36:02.720 talked about within the first two minutes can i can i can i can i say like i didn't want to talk about

05:36:07.120 having my kids or anything people respect that but i i will say like the way you talked about your

05:36:13.280 family was like incredibly respectful wholesome i could tell there's a lot of love shared between

05:36:18.800 you your kids it sounds like you've gone out of your way to put an effort into making sure that like

05:36:23.840 they have both parents in their life to the best of your ability you're very open about the reasons

05:36:28.000 why you think you may have failed them and failed yourself you didn't say anything horrifically

05:36:33.280 bad about the men that you dated right i thought that that was like a very very like objectively

05:36:39.120 good story for people to hear yeah honest because i don't think you're by any way propping it up as

05:36:44.640 like the example of what of how people should start families and raise them and there's a lot more

05:36:48.880 people in her situation that like to lead on especially in america yes yeah but but like but again

05:36:55.360 that's a conversation that can get so freaking loaded so freaking fast like he wanted to move it on to

05:37:00.560 like okay let's get like relationships at his age and all and then we're into the dating conversations

05:37:03.920 right but like that is a five and a half hour podcast in and of itself

05:37:08.960 there's like 10 people that just said you're a simp so that i'm a simp yeah all right cool for

05:37:13.600 having a beautiful girlfriend and being respectful already we're gonna answer this question he talks

05:37:19.600 like this all day every day i would have lost attraction a year and a half ago

05:37:24.480 um what previous or current guests on the show would you want to be on the panel with in the future

05:37:39.920 uh i would like to be on with yes i was just about to say destiny yeah

05:37:44.400 no i'm sure you wouldn't i was on with him i can't i can't yeah he's true he's a very

05:37:48.960 like to be on with pearl oh i have yes recent disagreements pearl so many people have because

05:37:55.840 so many people have disagreements such a joke to me i mean she's a grifter can i ask why that's one

05:38:01.920 thing i don't agree with destiny destiny tries to say that she's not a grifter he entertains it

05:38:06.480 that a grifter is someone who it's they're just doing it for views she admitted what they believe

05:38:11.680 they just see it as a way to make money online she admitted in a video in a car that uh in her car

05:38:17.040 that she was just like looking for ways to make money and she's been exposed multiple times yeah

05:38:20.320 she's she's literally admitted it that like she's just looking for ways to make money and then she

05:38:24.000 found that like getting into the red pill space and saying wild things like divorce appeal the 19th

05:38:29.280 amendment where you have to take away all of women's rights that divorce should be banned like all of

05:38:33.920 this stuff she doesn't believe anything that she says she doesn't lead with good faith she tries to be

05:38:37.360 this sad wife i think there was a lot of like it's almost like tate like they they point out things that

05:38:43.040 are wrong and there's value in that but just recently um i don't know she kind of lost me

05:38:49.360 yeah i agree what you do recently she's going on the extreme there was there was there was just

05:38:55.600 comments about underage stuff oh yeah i just she's just well that's why i think that she's bad faith

05:39:02.480 she takes it too far she doesn't understand the ramifications of what she's saying she doesn't

05:39:05.520 actually personally like at least andrew tate's a good grifter where you could believe it like it's

05:39:09.120 unbelievable yeah i don't know him it's hard it's like you almost don't believe he's grifting

05:39:13.280 because he's so good at it whereas like with pearl it's she tries to be this chad wife and it's like

05:39:18.240 so obvious that it was like this tomboyish girl that just threw on a dress like everything she

05:39:23.600 didn't know how to be feminine example of something that she said that is she said that we should ban

05:39:28.000 divorce she said that 16 year olds are more attractive than 26 year olds that's literally 20

05:39:34.480 on wed brandon mel said dm do mia also pearl gives men a bad pearl does give men a bad name i totally

05:39:42.160 agree with that and women as well you have yeah i know we actually have a little bit of a disagreement

05:39:46.880 on this one well no it's because again i just i'm taking the words very literally that she's saying

05:39:54.160 he doesn't have a twitter so he hasn't seen the twitter i've seen it like she's showing me the

05:39:58.560 stuff where it's like hey like don't get your like don't get your kids in sports because that's

05:40:03.360 feminism because you're giving your kid over to someone else who's going to be potentially raising

05:40:07.120 them things like that yeah i would never say that because i would love for my kids to play sports the

05:40:11.760 best thing you could put your kids in because some of the best lessons i've learned in life has been

05:40:16.240 through athletics sports right team just basic competition teamwork your the role that you play in

05:40:22.080 whatever like endeavor you're going towards right the respect for authority climbing the ladder being

05:40:26.640 a leader like all these different having to what is it hard hard hard work for the sake of like one

05:40:32.400 specific one specific goal right and then there's like micro goals like there's all these different

05:40:36.880 things you learn um so that's the kind of thing where i'm just like i hope that that's just a message

05:40:42.640 to kind of get the point across that women are a little bit more absent from their kids lives than

05:40:47.440 they used to be yeah but when you say it literally if you act if you actually believe

05:40:51.920 that i thought i fundamentally disagree with that i think it's too radical you'd hope that she'd be

05:40:56.240 like that but she's literally saying that women don't have the right to vote like women shouldn't

05:41:00.480 have she was saying that like feminism is so bad that we should go back and like to first wave

05:41:05.280 feminism and like repeal all of that i think that's ridiculous i think fourth wave feminism is the

05:41:09.040 problem and fifth wave feminism is where we come back to our femininity amen it's a very thing

05:41:13.840 things have to get as bad as they can possibly get before they can get better the pendulum

05:41:19.120 she has sort of a black pill take on a lot of this stuff yes but on the other hand she's also like

05:41:23.200 i know for i know that she either already released or is working on a documentary about divorce and you

05:41:28.800 should see some of the interviews that she has done with people who have gone through divorces

05:41:32.080 like you would be unlike the the the the red flags that she raises for men in terms of know this

05:41:39.120 before you get married know this before you start dating a woman know that when she does this she might

05:41:43.600 be trying to trap you to get like she showed text messages or talked about text messages of women

05:41:48.400 talking to their friends being like i'm trying to get him to hit me but he just won't like like

05:41:52.720 shit like that where it's like these are real things but do you think she's good faith do i think

05:41:58.240 she's good faith because like i agree with you that those are important topics to raise right but

05:42:01.520 do you think she's doing it in good faith is really the question again i don't want to pass any

05:42:05.920 judgment like that i think that she was i think that she started doing something because it was

05:42:10.160 something that she probably cared about and then she got bigger and now she has a platform and she

05:42:16.400 sort of found meaning in it and now she's like what's the most impact that i can have without being

05:42:24.640 untruthful right without being false so so she's pushed so so again is she pushing an agenda

05:42:31.520 maybe of course she is i don't think she but i don't think she's grifting right like be like a

05:42:36.960 grifter is literally taking something that you don't believe and just pushing it for the sake

05:42:42.400 of pushing it because it's going to benefit you well she's i don't think she believes so she's

05:42:45.760 pushing that's what we're saying you can think that but she admitted well she admitted to it she

05:42:49.680 admitted it and when in her car video when she's talking about like moving to london how she wants

05:42:53.840 people to in london to contact her for like a employee employership or whatever she mentions that

05:43:00.080 testing tolerance donated twenty dollars black shirt i worked in the cell industry for years

05:43:07.440 we have the data and i have the anecdotes to convince me it's better to check their purse

05:43:12.400 and their cars women have learned to hide things in ways that men don't think of you can grant good

05:43:18.480 faith there's a lot of stuff in my car you might want to check and what what what's this what's this

05:43:25.440 in context yeah i don't understand the cheating earlier we said women are better at i mean checking

05:43:32.880 again like like what i encourage people to be observant again i don't know how many times i

05:43:36.880 had to say pattern recognition like you can't just live like an unconscious like but so many people

05:43:41.600 are not self-aware enough to do that i i i don't know like i'm i'm like hyper aware of my surroundings

05:43:48.160 same all the time have you noticed like i it just so if something was off if something was different

05:43:55.280 like i would just it would resonate and then if it's remained different or got even more different

05:43:59.840 straight further from equilibrium like you just call it out i don't i don't know what to tell you

05:44:04.720 i think the overall like meaning is if you feel a doubt in your mind about something just ask them

05:44:10.080 instead of trying to sneak around and check their phone or sneak around check that have a conversation

05:44:14.880 as soon as that feeling comes up though instead of being like having these doubts in your mind

05:44:19.440 not saying anything about it or doing anything about it let it festering inside of you until you

05:44:24.560 basically convince yourself that they're in a full-blown relationship with somebody else

05:44:29.200 and then do something about it it's like no as soon as you notice something it's making you feel a

05:44:32.960 certain way nip it in the butt ask them about it get your answer i i don't know like again like

05:44:38.640 everyone who keeps spring who keeps talking about this i don't know what to tell you if you simply

05:44:44.640 don't have a barrier at which you are willing to trust a woman like i don't know what to say

05:44:50.560 like like i said earlier it gets deep how much can you really trust anybody at a certain point if you

05:44:57.360 want to be in a relationship if you want to do something long term if you want to build a nuclear

05:45:00.560 family if you want to have kids stay with that woman like you either decide that you're going to take

05:45:06.640 that risk or you don't i'm willing to take that risk like and again i'm going to be observant of

05:45:12.640 my surroundings and look for things and i'm obviously going to vent or not vent vet somebody

05:45:18.400 very very diligently before i decide to commit to them long term especially as a man whose assets

05:45:22.480 would 100 be on the line if divorce were to ever come but but again it's just a matter of being

05:45:28.560 conscientious and just being very very purposeful with your actions and how you go about this and how

05:45:32.960 you pursue it can i ask you a question sure how would you advise a woman to go about approaching

05:45:38.480 a man in public in any capacity i mean it's not it shouldn't be nearly as difficult as it is for a

05:45:48.800 man to a woman um like a man like i don't think a man is going to be creeped out by a woman it's not

05:45:54.400 being audacious so like i don't know just just go up and sorry i know it's do it i know it sounds pretty

05:45:59.440 basic but like if you just go up and start a conversation with a man as long as it's not

05:46:02.720 in the middle of the day and you're like hey would you like kiss me for a dollar where they clearly

05:46:06.560 know it's like some tick tock thing that you're doing so what's a good like opening line like

05:46:10.480 what's a good like compliment i genuinely want to know about this like i go to like to clarify ronnie

05:46:16.640 footballer donated twenty dollars ronnie c from last stream great pod pria skydiving slash universal

05:46:24.240 after a first date drink on pria nice shirt matches the blue eyes i can't have eyes but i'm sure our

05:46:31.440 kids can brian sent the safari hat photo on dm ps in portuguese and indian um i don't know did you send

05:46:41.520 it to the whatever page i don't know if i see it oh i forgot to do this during the outro i don't know

05:46:46.160 if he's still in here uh what frankie donated twenty dollars if you truly want to successfully

05:46:53.440 formulate and maintain a nuclear family you need bacon bake bake bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon

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05:47:30.880 Like, these are the men messaging Bill and they can't find a woman.

05:47:35.240 Like, this is what I mean.

05:47:36.540 Like, some things you do to yourself.

05:47:39.520 Okay?

05:47:40.960 This is my point.

05:47:44.480 Can we get back to the point, please?

05:47:46.760 No woman is ever going to see that and be like, I want to hit up Brian.

05:47:51.620 I genuinely want to know what a good pickup line for a man is.

05:47:55.280 Like, genuinely.

05:47:55.700 The $20 is a terrible idea.

05:47:57.520 Nice Jen and Ortega cosplay Mia.

05:47:59.680 I'm so introverted probably the way I get in a relationship would be an ambience.

05:48:05.420 How do you say it?

05:48:06.820 Salute.

05:48:07.540 Salute.

05:48:08.020 Salute.

05:48:08.860 My thoughts are that I have been called not Wednesday, but Thursday.

05:48:13.260 My boyfriend said you look like Wednesday.

05:48:14.680 Why does everyone say I look like Jenna Ortega?

05:48:17.240 Listen, I'll take it.

05:48:18.240 I'll take it.

05:48:18.640 She's beautiful and great.

05:48:19.580 But I actually want to know, what is a good pickup line?

05:48:21.940 Because when I'm in mass and we're at a young adult mass and we go to a bar afterwards,

05:48:25.380 we're supposed to mingle.

05:48:26.280 The men are over here and the women are over here.

05:48:28.400 And the women are super quiet and whatever.

05:48:31.100 And the men are just in a separate whatever because they don't want to be predacious, right?

05:48:35.140 But I am a very outspoken, outgoing woman.

05:48:38.480 I would like to know how to build the confidence to talk to a man.

05:48:41.200 Can I tell you what my go-to advice pickup line for a guy would be?

05:48:45.880 Well, this is for a guy.

05:48:46.980 But it should work for a girl too.

05:48:48.740 Like, hey, I'm not interrupting anything, am I?

05:48:50.920 You do that.

05:48:51.620 That they're either going to say, like, no, you're not.

05:48:53.660 And you follow it up with, like, I'm sure you were talking about something.

05:48:56.300 And they start the conversation for you.

05:48:58.040 Or they go, like, oh, we were just talking about, and now you're into the conversation.

05:49:01.860 I'm sure you're talking about something.

05:49:02.600 Like, that is one that is, like, fairly easy.

05:49:05.640 But again, pickup lines.

05:49:06.600 It's not – an opener is just about getting their attention, getting the conversation going.

05:49:11.140 I know, but I'm nervous, okay?

05:49:12.720 I'm nervous.

05:49:13.780 What is the line that you said to you?

05:49:15.900 Hey, I'm not interrupting anything, am I?

05:49:17.720 That's it.

05:49:18.340 So Dan and I were out in – was it Philadelphia?

05:49:24.020 Boston.

05:49:24.680 Boston.

05:49:25.980 Boston.

05:49:26.620 With his friends.

05:49:28.180 And they were talking about how they can get girls' numbers.

05:49:32.380 And I was like, I want to see how quickly you could get a girl's number.

05:49:35.800 I was encouraging my buddy to go get a girl's number.

05:49:37.880 He said, no, why don't you do it?

05:49:39.160 So I was like – so his friends – so you were like, are you okay with that?

05:49:42.980 And I was like, yeah, I want to see if you could get their number.

05:49:45.200 So I stayed back with his friends, and he walked up to a group of girls, and within, like, 45 seconds, used that line and got the number.

05:49:54.620 Have you ever, like, done the same thing?

05:49:56.780 No.

05:49:57.440 Raven DT donated $20.

05:49:59.000 I'll get through the Super Chats after this, and then we'll wrap.

05:50:00.980 Sorry, I missed Latina's name because I tuned in a little late.

05:50:04.500 To pick up a guy – hi, I'm Jenny Ortega.

05:50:07.280 I thought you were really cute, and I wanted to know if you would like to grab a coffee sometime, either now or later if you're busy at the moment.

05:50:16.280 Oh, that's sweet.

05:50:16.980 All right.

05:50:17.440 Again, guys are much easier.

05:50:18.700 I want to answer her too.

05:50:19.660 Guys are so much easier.

05:50:20.700 I know.

05:50:21.360 Hold on.

05:50:22.420 We've got to wrap up.

05:50:23.620 Can I just please just real quick?

05:50:24.740 Okay, make it quick, please.

05:50:25.680 What I've noticed when I was bartending and had to, like, man will be sitting at the bar and, you know, try to get tips, a joke about anything.

05:50:33.600 I know you guys don't want funny people, but, like, you know, say you're at a bar, right, and someone falls or anything.

05:50:38.500 Like, just making a not super mean joke, but, like, just making fun in something, like, just, like, real quickly.

05:50:45.520 Not even having to say hi first.

05:50:46.540 Like, if you see someone, maybe sit close to them if you can, something happens, and just be, like, I don't know, like, get a look at this guy.

05:50:53.620 I can't think of him in my head.

05:50:54.840 But, like, that usually, they really dig that, and you can start a great conversation off of that, and it can either go platonic or relationship-wise.

05:51:02.260 Yeah, I agree with that.

05:51:04.060 Kiko, top performer, of course, black shirt.

05:51:06.220 At a certain point, you have to trust a woman, but men vastly underestimate their ability to see red flags.

05:51:11.140 Check for that second cell phone, guys.

05:51:12.620 Don't be tracking your woman or looking, uh, attract, attract her socials like a P word, probably.

05:51:20.980 Okay.

05:51:21.840 Thank you, man.

05:51:22.220 Appreciate it.

05:51:22.780 All right.

05:51:23.060 Let me get through these.

05:51:24.220 We did this one, correct?

05:51:25.700 Correct.

05:51:26.180 All right.

05:51:26.960 This one, or no?

05:51:28.580 Yo, Mr. Capitoshio, good to see you, man.

05:51:30.540 In the chat, this was arguably one of the most beautiful panel in a long time, and only one, OF girl, have any of you played Dungeons and Dragons?

05:51:38.880 Just show of hands.

05:51:39.900 Have you played?

05:51:40.960 I'm really embarrassed.

05:51:42.000 You know, the new movie's really good, though.

05:51:43.600 She has over there.

05:51:44.520 Okay, there you have it.

05:51:45.780 All right, we have Ransom G here.

05:51:47.220 Y'all be blessed beyond belief to meet Rolo Tomasi.

05:51:49.460 Changing my life for the better, but I have my issues, too.

05:51:52.080 Would love to see Billy, Priya, and Kiko meet him.

05:51:54.700 Also, Nicole, did you like the Rich Cooper interview?

05:51:59.520 Well, as far as Rolo, actually, we were going to have him on-

05:52:03.480 Is that the old guy?

05:52:04.100 The show with Mike Sartain, yeah.

05:52:06.040 But, yeah, maybe in the future.

05:52:08.180 You were going to have him on Tuesday?

05:52:09.960 Yes.

05:52:10.560 Yeah, but he couldn't make it.

05:52:12.060 Wow.

05:52:12.260 Yeah, Rich had me on his podcast, and I liked it a lot.

05:52:16.820 Rich is great.

05:52:17.960 After your appearance here or before?

05:52:19.960 After.

05:52:20.540 They saw me here and said, do you want to come?

05:52:22.660 And I said, sure.

05:52:23.420 Oh.

05:52:24.540 I liked being on his show.

05:52:25.700 Rich is awesome.

05:52:26.640 Yeah.

05:52:27.160 What did he talk to you about?

05:52:29.440 Gosh, what did we talk about?

05:52:30.580 We talked about monogamy versus polygamy.

05:52:34.920 We talked about marriage.

05:52:37.180 We talked about relationships.

05:52:40.600 Yeah, it was much more about relationships.

05:52:42.460 What are your views on marriage?

05:52:44.380 What's a marriage dynamic?

05:52:46.080 How do you see that?

05:52:47.540 We talked about girls' trips, whether we're pro or con.

05:52:53.580 Girls' trips are girls' trips different from guys' trips.

05:52:55.620 We kind of went into all of it, but I really enjoyed being on his show.

05:52:58.300 He is a good listener, and I liked it.

05:53:02.680 I would go back.

05:53:03.280 I think I might be going back, but it was cool.

05:53:06.020 We have Glizzy McGuire with E25.

05:53:07.860 Hey, thank you, Glizzy McGuire.

05:53:09.340 We have Mike Y.

05:53:10.580 Who's that beautiful girl with the hat?

05:53:12.040 Is that – that's Madison over there.

05:53:16.620 Just on every episode.

05:53:18.900 And we have Marquavis Martin.

05:53:20.820 There's a vicious rumor going around that Priya's shirt is not actually silk.

05:53:25.180 I didn't say it was silk.

05:53:26.460 I said it was satin.

05:53:27.820 Ooh.

05:53:29.020 She had to clear that up for you real quick.

05:53:31.440 All right, cool.

05:53:32.280 All right, that's it for the Super Chats.

05:53:33.320 Thank you, guys.

05:53:33.920 Appreciate it.

05:53:34.220 Appreciate it.

05:53:35.880 All right, we're going to wrap up.

05:53:37.640 Last call.

05:53:38.260 Please hit the like button on your way out.

05:53:40.520 As I previously mentioned, we will be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific with our

05:53:46.300 next dating talk.

05:53:49.320 Shout out to Brandon once again.

05:53:51.120 Salute.

05:53:51.740 Salute?

05:53:52.480 Salute.

05:53:52.880 Salute, Brandon.

05:53:53.080 Salute for the very generous patronage tonight, man.

05:53:57.080 Much appreciated.

05:53:59.580 Do you say that unironically a lot?

05:54:02.000 All the time.

05:54:02.700 What was the other thing?

05:54:03.600 I lost his name, Brandon.

05:54:04.900 Oh, can we pull up the Twitch really quick?

05:54:06.500 Unironically.

05:54:07.100 Unironically.

05:54:07.580 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:54:10.520 Drop us a follow.

05:54:11.560 Drop us a prime sub.

05:54:13.580 If you have one, twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:54:17.300 Um...

05:54:17.900 Technics donated $20.

05:54:20.180 Be honest, be direct, and stop worrying about feelings.

05:54:24.180 They may not like it, but it gets the point across.

05:54:27.440 Communication will lead to successful relationships more than anything else.

05:54:32.080 When in doubt, speak all.

05:54:33.380 Peace out.

05:54:34.180 Great panel, Brian.

05:54:35.400 Keep it up, ALM.

05:54:36.760 I think that that's great advice when things need to be addressed.

05:54:39.620 Me too.

05:54:39.700 Thank you, Technics.

05:54:40.300 Appreciate it.

05:54:40.960 ALM.

05:54:41.780 That's our previous all labia matter, but we switched it to big labia matter.

05:54:45.200 Um, okay, we have, uh, Soft, Bod, Jod, Thank You for the Prime, XG Unreal, Thank You for

05:54:51.920 the Five Gifted Community Subset.

05:54:53.580 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:54:55.720 Drop us a follow.

05:54:56.900 Drop us a, uh, Twitch Prime.

05:54:58.840 Appreciate it, guys.

05:54:59.660 Fast food restaurant.

05:55:00.500 Frank Castle, no?

05:55:01.240 Okay.

05:55:02.660 Brian, what's Frank Castle?

05:55:04.340 Uh, it's like, don't worry about it.

05:55:06.140 Okay.

05:55:06.480 Guys, we'll see you again Tuesday at 7 p.m. Pacific.

05:55:09.520 07's in the chat.

05:55:10.940 Good night, guys, and we'll see you later.

05:55:13.000 Bye.

05:55:14.860 Ooh, I look big.

Whatever Podcast - July 31, 2023

RAGEQUIT KEEKO Returns! She Has 3 Baby Daddies？! ｜ Dating Talk #88

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