Whatever Podcast - She DIVORCED Him For BAD Sex？! Dating A FEEDER？! Husband CHEATED With Men？!

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00:03:10.480 whatever podcast so without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell

00:03:15.860 us your name age location and occupation go ahead hi guys my name is mari um i'm from orlando i was

00:03:23.800 age i'm 22 sorry no and just into the microphone um i'm 22 i'm from orlando i'm a student and i'm also a

00:03:33.240 content creator what kind of content do you make um so i promote raves um i promote like club like

00:03:43.560 rave like the club scenes and then i also do like only fans and stuff like that how long have you been

00:03:49.040 doing of of um so i started when i was like 18 and then i stopped for a little bit and then i just

00:03:55.640 started again all right welcome what about you hi my name is emmy i'm from the bay berkeley to be specific

00:04:02.680 i'm 22 and i'm a student at ucsb what's your major sociology sociology okay yeah all right and

00:04:11.480 you're graduating this year yes you're a senior okay what about you hi i'm naomi i'm 26 uh from

00:04:18.500 phoenix well from new york but i live in phoenix and i do only fans all right welcome hi i'm taylor

00:04:26.540 i'm 25 and i'm an rbt from the bay area what's a rbt i'm registered behavioral technician i like

00:04:33.980 work with kids with autism gotcha okay what brings you to santa barbara um i'm visiting friends gotcha

00:04:39.740 okay what about you hi i'm kira from the bay area um i'm 24 and i'm a student at sbcc and i'm a call

00:04:46.860 major major all right are you going to transfer to ucsb or uh no i'm going to sdsu okay cool what about

00:04:54.220 you my name is jamil i'm 39 i'm a registered nurse and stand-up comedian 39 register uh rn stand-up

00:05:03.100 comedian uh tell us a joke oh okay well hi my name's jamil and for those of you that were expecting a

00:05:15.180 tall black guy that's pretty good i liked that all right there you go yeah hi i'm katie i'm 41

00:05:26.140 i'm originally from los angeles currently living in orange county and i work in optical okay hi my name

00:05:34.540 is brie i'm 26 i'm from santa clarita and i'm a student oh what what do you study public health okay

00:05:41.660 gotcha i'm natalie i just turned 23 i'm born and raised in santa monica california but i live in

00:05:47.820 palm beach florida now and i am the co-host of steve bannon's war room which is a tv show and podcast

00:05:54.780 and i also have a clothing brand all right welcome back so we're gonna go around the table once more

00:06:00.620 what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship

00:06:06.060 friends with benefits relationship married poly cool sex cults whatever it may be if you're single

00:06:11.500 how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead

00:06:15.740 single um i've been single for about a year and a half almost two longest relationship i've been in

00:06:22.380 probably three and a half years 3.5 years okay what about you um i am single right now the longest

00:06:30.540 relationship i've been in was a year and a half how long have you been single um about six months

00:06:39.740 six to seven months why'd he dump you um i actually dumped oh sorry sorry i got that mixed up got that

00:06:47.020 mixed up my bad mixed up okay uh so you broke up with him yes i did was that the 1.5 year relationship

00:06:53.900 no different one okay gotcha what about you i'm still single i was on a month ago so i'm back uh

00:06:59.980 still single my longest relationship was four years and um it's been over two years now that

00:07:06.060 i've been single and your last relationship was that the four year one no okay why did he dump you

00:07:14.860 we had a mutual all right what about um i'm single i've been single for a few years and my longest

00:07:24.060 relationship was four years you've been single for a few years i'm like three years three years or so

00:07:31.020 okay yeah all right what about you i'm also single and my longest relationship is a year and a half

00:07:38.380 and i've been single for i don't know a year now one year okay what about you i'm in a friends with

00:07:44.700 benefits situation hey benefits my longest relationship well i am recently divorced so

00:07:53.100 we were married for almost 18 years okay so 18 years how long ago was the divorce about two years

00:08:01.820 ago two years ago okay so and you're 39 so you divorced at 37 you were together for 18 years so

00:08:08.700 you're pretty much together from like what 19 20 to 37 about yeah okay that's right how long have you

00:08:18.460 been with your current friends with benefits a little over a month just one month yep is he the

00:08:24.540 first guy that you got with since the breakup separation maybe a little bit more seriously yeah

00:08:31.580 but there's been other guys yeah in that time period okay and uh but this is the most serious

00:08:38.300 one so far i think so yes

00:08:40.060 yes but it's just friends with benefits you've only been seeing each other for one month yes so

00:08:48.620 the other a little bit more yeah okay okay but so the other ones you saw were just casual flings

00:08:57.820 who um who initiated the divorce i did you did uh what was the reason just grew apart or

00:09:06.620 many reasons but growing apart uh he was was it the stand-up comedy no i did that that that i've

00:09:16.140 been doing that for six months now okay all right it's a new thing gotcha um so but

00:09:22.860 what what happened did he want to stay with you yes yes and yet do you have a kid we have two kids

00:09:29.820 two kids okay um and you don't have kids from any other people okay um but so what was the what

00:09:38.540 precipitated the divorce uh quite a few things one of the first things being that he started seeing

00:09:46.700 some people some guys from craigslist what craigslist is crazy

00:09:59.740 wow holy um and were you aware because you were with him for 18 years were you aware

00:10:07.580 of his that he was interested in other people interested in men no no do you think like were

00:10:15.500 there any signs like retrospectively that there's infidelity in the past or like was this a new

00:10:21.580 development or he was checking out like chicks before right but uh you know we all kind of check

00:10:29.020 out people right uh how he presented it to me was we were in the in the bedroom and he just said hey i

00:10:39.500 think this might be kind of hot to hear but uh then he he dropped that bomb on me so yeah that was a

00:10:45.980 few years ago so there was cheating though yes he didn't just but he told you yes now did he tell you

00:10:53.980 he told you he wanted to involve other men or no no okay he just was just telling me he's like i think

00:11:01.580 that would be kind of hot for her to hear but it wasn't okay

00:11:08.220 are you good or

00:11:11.980 okay all right all right

00:11:16.940 is it like coffee or something you can't all right never mind never mind okay okay it's fine

00:11:23.500 don't worry about it don't worry about it um okay so you initiated the divorce um but he wanted he

00:11:31.020 wanted to see men but he wanted to stay with you i'm confused there yes so he wanted to try other

00:11:37.820 things i involving both men and women um that was like he wanted to do threesomes yes with you and

00:11:46.060 like other dudes and swinging swinging yeah and uh this is something that like what in the 17th

00:11:55.020 year of your marriage happened about the 15th year of marriage i think 14 maybe maybe a little

00:12:04.060 less and did he have any inclinations towards this in the previous uh 15 years or however long you're

00:12:10.540 together no spontaneous homosexuality is that it was it was dormant probably dormant probably

00:12:22.380 that's a good one that's watching porn or anything like that do you think that could have precipitated

00:12:26.940 it that like broadened his mind about what was out there uh probably watching porn that i didn't know

00:12:35.420 about you know all men i feel like all men have watched porn or all men are secretly gay and

00:12:43.260 want to fuck other men watch porn i'm trying to say okay wait so was it was there a dead bedroom

00:12:51.180 for a period of the relationship yes starting uh went into the marriage uh after the whole craigslist

00:12:58.940 thing oh after but otherwise things were good in that okay damn that's wild yeah that's crazy son wait

00:13:08.620 okay third so but you got it seems you know you had some flings pretty quickly after separation so

00:13:17.740 you got right back on the horse and yes and you got do you know what year you guys got married

00:13:23.580 i got married in 2005 and were you dating prior yes how long were you dating prior to the marriage

00:13:29.900 about a couple years a couple years damn it's like before cell phones so so how do you go how do you

00:13:39.420 go from like okay you used to date in the peak of civilization the late 90s early 2000s and then you're

00:13:47.180 just thrust after your husband wanted to fuck other men how do you go from like that and then you're

00:13:55.020 introduced to like dating apps social media was it like culture shock for you it wasn't too much culture

00:14:02.300 shock just because uh i work as a nurse and i work with other people who you know different generations

00:14:10.300 and okay and so a lot of them will talk about the dating app so it's like oh that's kind of cool and

00:14:16.300 so uh i've tried to stay as uh abreast to technology as i can so i was a little familiar with the dating

00:14:25.900 apps uh tinder and the dating apps were a little bit weird for me just because i'm so used to dating

00:14:31.980 organically and actually i still prefer that were you did you get on any dating apps i did okay i did

00:14:39.500 tinder hinge bumble christian mingle farmers only any of those i did tinder hinge facebook dating

00:14:49.260 tinder hinge facebook okay all right good times cool cool what about you i am currently single

00:14:57.340 i was seeing somebody briefly this past summer my longest relationship sorry hold on nickelodeon donated

00:15:04.860 one hundred dollars she was jealous he was working on another man's bits would you rather it was a man

00:15:11.500 nor woman would you prefer if it was a like had it been a woman that he was cheating on you with

00:15:21.100 i think men was more okay for me to accept than it was interesting women i don't know why let's go

00:15:29.740 around the table on this actually we'll come back to the the relationships actually wait no okay so

00:15:35.100 going around the table two questions actually one would you prefer if your partner were to cheat on

00:15:40.940 you would you prefer it's with a man or a woman and then the second question would you prefer if it's a

00:15:47.260 woman would you prefer they cheat on you with someone more attractive or less attractive than you

00:15:52.780 starting with you go ahead um okay well if they were gonna cheat on me i don't really care of the gender

00:16:00.060 so that's it and if it's a woman more attractive less attractive attractiveness i don't care wouldn't

00:16:08.380 care at all okay um honestly i'd kind of prefer if it was a man then i'm not comparing myself oh

00:16:17.260 okay you prefer a man then i know there's nothing wrong with me he's just not straight okay i see

00:16:22.460 okay it's easier to cope um and if it was a woman more attractive or less attractive than you

00:16:28.620 which would you prefer that's kind of hard i kind of think less attractive so then i'm not like

00:16:34.220 fuck it's because of my looks but at the same time that's like i i don't know maybe less attractive

00:16:41.020 okay what about you i kind of agree what was your name again

00:16:44.940 mari mari i agree with mari um i just that's one of my non-negotiables so cheating is just a big no

00:16:51.260 no no for me you wouldn't have any i'd be mad that's not that's not the question though you

00:16:58.300 wouldn't have any preference no no preference because cheating okay wait if that's a non-negotiable

00:17:04.220 for you you do only fans though so is that considered cheating would your partner consider

00:17:11.020 you doing only fans as cheating well i don't have a partner i'm single but but if you did hypothetically

00:17:16.460 like are you staying single until you retire from only fans or like how do you navigate that like

00:17:22.540 with your relationship i mean if someone wants to date me as part of who i am as part of what i do so

00:17:29.820 if they're going into it knowing that it's kind of on them to be accepting of it have you had a

00:17:34.860 long-term relationship while you're doing content no okay i would say what emmy said um i guess i

00:17:45.180 would prefer if it was a man and then that might like highlight our insecurities more but just the

00:17:50.460 truth yeah and probably a less attractive woman for the same reason i think i mean cheating is cheating

00:17:57.900 it sucks uh but probably i also agree with taylor and emmy i would rather it be a man and probably

00:18:05.660 someone less attractive than me i agree with taylor and emmy for all the reasons that they just stated

00:18:15.580 thank you everyone if i had to choose i would definitely choose another woman because i know that

00:18:21.660 men can have sex and have it not be emotional it could just be purely physical i know brian you talked

00:18:27.420 about it on one of the episodes and i wouldn't care if the woman was more or less attractive it

00:18:33.420 wouldn't matter to me all right i feel like regardless being cheated on is painful doesn't

00:18:38.460 matter if it's like a man or a woman um but more attractive or not it's painful and sucks and should

00:18:45.820 be avoided at all costs okay i would take a very pragmatic approach to this question i feel like if

00:18:52.460 your partner was secretly banging a bunch of guys behind your back there's a higher chance of stds

00:18:59.420 and aids and that kind of stuff so i think i'd probably rather go with a woman okay and then what

00:19:07.340 about the prettier or uglier probably uglier there you have it folks there you have it uh your relationship

00:19:16.780 status yes so i'm single i was seeing somebody briefly back in the summer my longest relationship

00:19:22.540 was five years and i was married for a year and a half and i'm divorced and have been divorced for

00:19:29.020 over a decade okay and you have one one kid one kid yes okay uh is the dad still in the picture or are you

00:19:38.540 co-parent or um yes he he's very much in the picture he was not my my daughter's father was

00:19:46.540 not my ex-husband we tried for about two years to get pregnant and it never happened for us and um

00:19:55.420 that's a whole nother story but yes my daughter's dad is very much in the picture he's very involved

00:20:01.660 very wonderful and you said you've been single since the summer time was it yeah i just dated somebody

00:20:06.700 or saw somebody briefly in the summer but before that it was quite a while all right i take parenting

00:20:13.340 very seriously sure what about you um i'm currently single i'm not looking to date at the moment um i'm

00:20:20.220 single as of a few weeks i came out of a pretty short relationship but i jumped into that relationship

00:20:26.780 after almost a five-year relationship so it was kind of doomed to begin with and i wasn't really willing

00:20:32.460 to see that going into it i kind of just fell into it wait so your longest relationship was five

00:20:37.900 years once that ended you immediately got into another relationship yes which ended a few weeks

00:20:44.540 ago correct how long did the most recent relationship last uh i believe seven months seven months how soon

00:20:51.580 after the end of the five-year relationship did you get into the new relationship like two weeks

00:20:58.140 but i i wasn't okay i know i know i know i wasn't advocating and or looking for a relationship or

00:21:03.740 even friends with benefits i didn't sleep with him immediately did you know him beforehand no

00:21:09.500 how did you meet him uh social media like instagram yeah like you dm'd him or he dm'd you

00:21:16.460 no he reached out to me did wait so he you break up and then a week goes by and then he dm'd you

00:21:25.340 or had he dm'd you prior to the end of your relationship no i so on my social media i don't

00:21:30.860 like if i'm in a relationship i wouldn't typically accept like male follower follower requests so it

00:21:36.780 wasn't until after i became single that i would be accepting new follower requests and then after i

00:21:42.300 accepted him he had started messaging me from there does it show when the follower follow request was

00:21:47.420 made on instagram when it was made i don't think so but you guys know that you can see when it's been

00:21:51.820 accepted like the chronological order okay so you you break up who who ended the five-year relationship

00:22:00.780 i did you did uh okay and so when how soon after was it you said it was two weeks yeah like you first

00:22:11.740 met two weeks from the breakup correct yeah okay it's messy i know pretty quick i know i learned

00:22:18.700 sometimes i have to learn the hard way see breakup it was so messy we lived together the five-year

00:22:23.500 breakup we lived together we had a lot of a lot it was really messy wait did you were you still living

00:22:30.300 together after the breakup yeah yeah did you invite the new guy over to the house no so my five-year he

00:22:38.860 cheated on me and i was very loyal loyal to i don't want to say loyal to a fault because i'll never regret

00:22:45.740 being loyal because that's just my character but i felt very betrayed it wasn't one woman it was

00:22:51.500 multiple women it was multiple women that were overweight and there's nothing wrong with being

00:22:57.900 overweight but he was a it was like a feeding fetish chubby chaser it wasn't even just chubby

00:23:04.140 yeah so how did you how did you like do the tai chi you like avoided the feeder oh my gosh okay so

00:23:16.220 i thought that going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal it's not

00:23:22.940 i it's not normal um so i got i basically found out found out at our friend's wedding

00:23:28.700 and he was cheating on you so i was sending myself pictures from his phone and he was really drunk and

00:23:36.220 i decided to i had this you know weird feeling and i was like i only have maybe 30 seconds to check

00:23:42.700 where i want to look in his phone to see if there's even anything and i did and i found over 400 messages

00:23:47.660 between him and multiple girls and these weren't just messages like sending pictures or whatever it was

00:23:52.940 uh weigh yourself before you eat weigh yourself after i swear it sounds girl you dodged a bullet

00:24:02.460 no i really did and it was multiple women and it was the same conversation basically of him making

00:24:07.660 them eat enough and he would tell them that they're not worthy to speak to him unless you know they eat

00:24:12.780 enough or eat more and i'm like i work out and i feel like i take care of myself and these women are

00:24:18.620 over 250 pounds and he's telling them that they're not good enough so that's the tea i just want to

00:24:27.900 know like where he like found just like this niche group of people that were like okay with that also

00:24:33.420 you know what i mean like is there a site for that i maybe but they're into that right saying like oh

00:24:38.300 it's a fetish it's like a total it's like a niche sexual wait so was he trying to fatten you up

00:24:43.900 i think so because over covid after like the whole world shut down right so i stopped working out you

00:24:49.740 know i played college volleyball at the time and i stopped working out and i gained a little bit of

00:24:52.940 weight as i'm sure everyone did over covid and he would always tell me you know that's i liked you

00:24:58.140 most when you were this way over covid and i never never understood that as a woman you kind of have

00:25:03.740 your own set weight and how you feel comfortable and how you like to look in clothes and i did not feel

00:25:08.460 comfortable at that weight and that was kind of a red flag but i'm like sure guys like thicker girls

00:25:13.260 whatever like teach their own um but it it didn't fully connect the dots until i saw those text

00:25:18.860 messages and i read every single one word for word out loud in front of him

00:25:24.620 yeah at the way when he was drunk uh-huh

00:25:29.340 it was messy at somebody's wedding no well listen it was in the parking lot to be fair wait so okay but

00:25:36.380 did he ever send you those types of text messages to you or with you it was like this repressed thing

00:25:44.700 a little bit but he was still trying to like he would like feed you kind of discreetly yeah it was

00:25:50.060 very discreet and it was and i thought it was sweet like he would come home with food for me and i was

00:25:54.940 like oh i just had a long shift at work and you know i had such a long day you're so sweet he would never

00:25:59.820 cook or clean he'd always buy me wait so how did he react when like you said like hey i found all

00:26:06.620 this stuff like that's crazy how did he react to that like what did he say um he cried and said he

00:26:11.340 was so embarrassed and you know how could i invite his in um how could i invade his privacy and i'm like

00:26:18.940 sir we live together and have lived together for years what do you mean privacy other women sending

00:26:24.300 pictures of yourself in our bed to other women the bed that i make right the bed that i clean

00:26:31.340 the ps5 i bought you how dare you you know what i mean relatable so it's crazy has any girl here had

00:26:39.660 bad experience with a dude yes where he's like let me get you fat oh no no i had that with a girl one

00:26:46.460 time i think i think a girl tried to do that shit to me tried to get you fat tried to get me fat so i'd

00:26:51.420 be less appealing to other women i'm actually starting to get a little chubby uh no she'd like

00:26:59.740 i tell her like yo stop bringing over fucking cookies but i keep eating maybe i honestly feel

00:27:05.580 like some girls do do that so it could be i think that's also a term of endearment it's like one of

00:27:10.220 the love languages i i i do that fat yeah yeah i bring snacks just like make sure like you're eating

00:27:16.140 good taking care of you maybe i don't know like that's how the buddha originality starts and

00:27:20.700 everything yeah i don't know damn that's crazy so uh i wow so yeah so i immediately was so he was

00:27:31.820 like cheating on you with a bunch of like obese women is what you're saying 100 like morbid morbid

00:27:38.060 like how like did he have a uh like a sweet spot like was it obese morbidly obese like you know

00:27:45.020 um these girls were chunky because these girls would send pictures too and i understand yeah i

00:27:51.980 saw the pictures and um they were unhealthy and it wasn't just a few pounds here a few pounds there

00:27:59.500 they were obese and it made me sad for them and i really i told them you know we're done this there's

00:28:05.100 no chance we're ever going to make this work but you need to apologize to these women because that's

00:28:09.020 so unfair for you to degrade women and and they're allowing it sure but it's like that that will stick

00:28:15.260 with them for the rest of their lives brian how do you feel about this topic like you're really

00:28:23.900 interested into it like the obesity do you guys not know about like fetishes and stuff like that

00:28:30.780 i'm i'm familiar with it oh okay yeah okay it's more so just there's a lot out there he wasn't he

00:28:37.020 wasn't open with it with you no which makes it kind of like that's the crazy part i thought you were

00:28:42.860 like hmm i mean i do think it's kind of still like it's a little weird oh weird okay i thought you were

00:28:50.460 like interested even if you're open with it it's a little okay because it's like okay i don't know

00:28:57.740 it's kind of because being obese is unhealthy yeah so if you're like feeding like i think it's

00:29:06.780 even if you're open with it even if it's like consensual it still feels a little like abusive

00:29:12.700 you're like pushing this person towards poor health it feels a little yeah you're right you're

00:29:19.980 right and i think the worst the worst part sorry to interrupt you i think the worst part about it is

00:29:24.860 he's the most like bodybuilder type of guy very lean runs works out religiously living vicariously

00:29:33.420 through them then he doesn't get to eat all these snacks and treats crazy the psychological levels

00:29:39.740 these other women things that he can't have damn and he would i mean he would eat he didn't have a

00:29:44.780 diet or a strict you know regimen or anything like that but if you looked at him you would have never

00:29:50.380 thought ever in a million years that he would even be into people like that and there's nothing wrong

00:29:54.620 with being into people like that but you can't just like stay true to yourself and if that's what you're

00:29:59.900 into that's fine wait so would he ever make comments i mean i think you mentioned this a

00:30:05.180 little bit would he ever make comments to you like would i don't know if this is like tmi but like

00:30:11.100 would he like grab your belly like yeah so what i thought was um his love language being like physical

00:30:19.500 touch it was actually him like every woman has parts on your body that you don't want to touch so

00:30:26.380 you're like insecure about you're like i could go without you seeing this or feeling this and he

00:30:30.300 would go out of his way to grab that and and acknowledge it and be very aggressive but he he

00:30:36.540 he turned it to be playful and kind of gaslit me to make me feel like um i'm the problem and that

00:30:42.380 that should be normal but that didn't it didn't start off that way that was the last two years of the

00:30:48.220 almost five years that's crazy that's crazy is there like a reverse feeder thing just someone

00:30:59.420 who wants one really skinny yeah yeah i could say that right or like a really like yeah like i'm just

00:31:07.340 skinny like man i feel like a lot of girls are into that like what if like would the opposite just be

00:31:12.540 like here's a salad and a singular crouton that's what i would do that could be good you know um

00:31:21.340 okay natalie what about you um i i guess i'm technically single but i actually just met someone

00:31:28.620 who i'm very excited about but it's very new so congrats thank you um so i don't know and i think

00:31:35.260 he's watching so i don't know what to say all right how long have you guys been dating we like just met

00:31:40.140 like a few days ago a few days ago a lot of overlap we know a lot of mutual people

00:31:47.180 is he also involved in politics uh sort of in a way but not really not for work but he knows

00:31:55.740 political people who i work with i'm being big but donald trump no it's a donald trump okay no queen

00:32:03.180 melania never ever ever wait what do you do for work again i co-host a show called war room and it's

00:32:10.220 my co-host is steve bannon who was the ceo of the trump campaign in 2016. um so yeah

00:32:18.220 all right and what's your longest relationship um a year one year all right we've got everyone's

00:32:24.620 relationship status here a lot of you said you're all of you are single except for you who has a

00:32:30.620 friends with benefits and you have this new thing going on so what does being single actually mean here

00:32:36.300 um some of you have been single for years uh so starting with you there's no guys in the picture

00:32:45.660 yeah currently there's no guys in the picture um wait does anyone here buy or have a different

00:32:52.140 orientation just okay any any ladies in the picture then um no but um this guy kind of

00:33:00.460 kind of fucked me over or sorry for cursing but um say like january um found out he was literally

00:33:09.580 living with like an old ass woman and i would pick him up to bring him to my house and all this bs

00:33:17.260 after that i was like i'm just done i'm taking a break and i just stayed celibate like literally

00:33:22.940 you've been celibate for a year and a half i've been celibate for like uh i want to say like six

00:33:29.740 months six months okay but you said you've been single for 1.5 years yeah so then i started talking

00:33:35.580 to this other guy and then i ended that quick so okay yeah so there's nobody in the picture

00:33:43.500 so you've been celibate for how long like yeah like six months three months around there three months

00:33:50.620 six months three months three months pretty big it's just hard difference those two guys

00:33:56.460 me over they they fucked you over like in the head like i'm just like i'm over men like just

00:34:01.580 i want to be left alone you're you're over men why is that should i even answer that

00:34:10.780 uh if you want yeah

00:34:15.420 we can continue you got uh what's it called you said you got

00:34:18.780 fucked over that's right yeah okay you're single six months to seven months you've been single

00:34:26.140 right um any any guys in the picture though i mean yeah when you're single of course you talk to people

00:34:31.580 on and off and like it only goes so far depending on like what you're looking for what are you looking

00:34:36.860 for um i think i'd be looking for a relationship but like i have been single for such a short amount of

00:34:43.180 time so it's like i don't know but also when you graduate like you don't know where you're gonna

00:34:47.980 move so it's kind of hard to like be looking for a relationship when you don't know where you're

00:34:53.020 going you graduate in a couple months or something yeah do you don't have any plan no i'm applying to

00:34:59.980 internships and jobs right now i'm not sure do you think you'll stick around in santa barbara or you're

00:35:04.300 gonna um well i'm taking some summer courses so i'm gonna have to until september okay and so i have

00:35:10.140 that time to figure out where i'm gonna go i see okay wait you're from did you say up north

00:35:15.260 originally or yeah berkeley berkeley okay wait so any guys in the picture um you know just people

00:35:23.500 i'm talking to you are you taught do you have like a what's it called uh a roster right now you got a

00:35:29.500 roster you got uh honestly no like i don't talk no your friends are kind of throwing you under the

00:35:36.700 left there i know i know i honestly like i don't talk to people like it's hard for me to get into

00:35:43.260 like things with people same yeah you have a great voice by the way i lost my voice so it's really

00:35:50.460 raspy right now oh this isn't your normal we did karaoke last night so all of our voices yeah we were

00:35:55.820 at wildcat doing karaoke so i see you're going crazy okay wait so there is one guy kind of in the

00:36:03.660 picture yeah is the talking stage ish situationship maybe i guess you could say that i don't consider

00:36:11.260 things things until you're dating someone until there's a title yeah i don't consider anything a

00:36:15.660 thing until you're dating someone okay and so how long have you been seeing this guy um i don't know

00:36:22.620 maybe a couple months i mean when you're single like you you go on dates like you talk to multiple

00:36:27.260 people and it only goes so far you know it's like what do you mean it only goes so far i mean

00:36:32.860 i don't know you go on a couple dates you don't necessarily get along like you stop talking after

00:36:36.540 that like that's just kind of how it goes like you hook up with them and yeah i mean i guess not

00:36:42.700 always though right not always yeah and so would you

00:36:49.500 have you like besides this there seems you got a main main piece and side hose it sounds like

00:36:55.420 do you have side hose i don't have any main piece you don't have a main hoe no i don't i i really like

00:37:02.460 i don't talk to a lot of people like that what about this guy that you've been seeing for i know but

00:37:07.980 you can only do you think he's seeing other girls yeah what if she's like oh do you like you know

00:37:14.140 he's seeing other girls are you like you just think he's seeing other girls no i i don't know

00:37:19.020 nothing is serious like you don't really pay a lot of attention to someone until you're actually a

00:37:23.100 title so like i don't know like i wouldn't consider anything talking until you're dating like

00:37:27.660 really how often do you see this guy once a week twice a week um a couple times a week i don't know

00:37:33.260 it's it's sporadic like it's not sporadic yeah wait is it like one of those situations where it's

00:37:38.060 like exploring cool where it's like friday 11 p.m what you're doing is it that kind of thing or is it

00:37:46.300 no not necessarily a little more structured where it's like hey what's up let's hang out

00:37:51.420 thursday 7 p.m i guess i mean yeah i mean for longer periods of time they're like they'll go

00:37:59.100 out on like dates and stuff yeah yeah like time's worst nightmare do you want do you want more does

00:38:06.940 he want more has there been any conversation like that um not necessarily i mean like at this age like

00:38:14.540 everyone i'm talking to is leaving college so it's like right you can't bank on anything sure

00:38:20.940 or really get too serious like that until you know where you're going where you're gonna be

00:38:27.340 does he know he doesn't know what he's his plans are or um i i don't see a freshman

00:38:33.420 you guys dating um no no uh does he go to school though he's also in school yeah

00:38:39.820 okay ucsb yeah yeah okay uh all right well uh it is sort of transient in the sense that

00:38:48.540 you might be graduating soon he might be graduating soon you guys don't know where you

00:38:51.980 guys stand on that front um yeah i think they're just like having a good time with each other right

00:38:57.900 now yeah you just vibe until it gets too serious but when you say you think they're just having a

00:39:02.620 good time right now do you just mean but they're just having sexual intercourse no not just that

00:39:07.660 like they're going on dates they're just like having fun like i don't know that's fine um just

00:39:11.660 stuff like that okay good times um what about you what were the questions well so you're single

00:39:18.460 right you've been single for two years but you know you live in miami is it no phoenix

00:39:24.860 phoenix okay my bad sorry it's okay uh you know there's a lot of handsome men out there in phoenix

00:39:31.260 not so much okay i don't get out much you don't get out how much you just

00:39:36.460 stay inside and take nude photographs absolutely yeah good times uh okay so no guys in the picture

00:39:43.740 come on no actually zero zero since the last zero i'm calling cap i'm calling cap

00:39:50.060 what isn't it the case though with girls who do only fans or even just content creators in general

00:39:57.100 that it hurts your bottom line if you were to openly admit that you have a boyfriend or you're

00:40:02.860 seeing somebody like if you did have a boyfriend would you not disclose it uh i would probably

00:40:09.820 disclose it but i wouldn't post him okay like the person i made content with made past tense um i was

00:40:16.780 never in a romantic relationship with them oh you did you did bg content i did yeah but only with

00:40:22.140 one person only one one guy you've ever done that with okay just someone else in the industry that i

00:40:27.260 trusted wait so you okay so there's you've been single for two years yeah my first year out of my

00:40:33.020 relationship i was celibate my whole first year and then i started only fans and then you had a

00:40:37.740 partner you work with but you no longer work with him anymore yeah just i don't make any more content

00:40:42.220 right okay so you're telling me there's no guys in the picture right now not friends with benefits

00:40:49.900 not a situationship not even a talking stage no i wish i get lonely stop the cap i promise i'm gonna

00:40:58.860 call cap on that i'm gonna call cap on that i don't have time what if a guy what if a guy during the

00:41:06.140 show dms me and says i'm her sneaky link she's lying would you fess up would you fess up who's

00:41:13.980 gonna okay yeah sure you want to put a bet on it we can put a bet on i'm good i'm all right can i ask

00:41:19.580 her a related question sure go ahead okay you said that you hate men right i don't mean it literally

00:41:27.740 how do you well you but you do only fans right you said you just started um no i've been doing it

00:41:32.860 since i was 18 but i just restarted so do you hate men enough why do you are you still okay

00:41:38.700 taking their money on only fans and interacting with them via that like how do you or do you just

00:41:43.260 hate men i don't actually hate men it was just kind of like a metaphor how is that a metaphor um

00:41:49.900 because like i literally didn't mean that there's hella men in this world like why would i hate every

00:41:55.740 single man i mean that's pretty logical no i i agree with you but you just said i hate men yeah did i miss

00:42:02.540 that was it no i did say that no i did say that because that's how can you scoot your mic this

00:42:07.500 sorry because that's how sometimes i feel in the moment you know you didn't really move it but

00:42:13.180 i appreciate the effort no i was just i was just curious because i feel like a lot of only fans

00:42:18.540 creators not really but okay she tried how do you want me i think didn't you say it scoot it like move it

00:42:26.060 yeah there you go that's good okay so like well you guys are just like you know you hate men so much

00:42:31.020 you don't need them turn it straight though straighten it straight put it straight i don't

00:42:34.540 feel that way i'll put it out there i love myself yeah straight just straight if you can well i don't

00:42:41.900 know straight like straight yeah there you go and then but then move it back that way you moved it

00:42:47.340 over too far you're encroaching you're encroaching on her territory they're saying at the same time

00:42:54.220 okay yeah good yeah you're well done okay continue you had some questions for well no i think i was

00:43:00.780 just trying to understand the metaphor that is the man i hate men um but i guess it's allegedly not a

00:43:07.820 metaphor but i was just kind of curious is it a simile i think she said she's over men i don't

00:43:12.220 think she said she hates no i said i hate men oh wow are you are you over man i don't know if you're

00:43:17.740 putting words in her mouth no i already explained it so if you can't understand it i'm sorry do you ever

00:43:22.620 want to get married i can what'd you say do you ever want to get married of course yeah um how do

00:43:28.460 you view marriage um i noticed that there's a cross hanging from your earring how do you feel about

00:43:34.700 religion and marriage and like what's your stance on that um marriage um what do you mean by marriage

00:43:42.380 like like there's a lot of you know a lot of people can get married in different aspects yeah i mean

00:43:48.620 like more traditional marriage more traditional and like the the purpose of like what marriage

00:43:53.260 would be for you and what that means for you okay um but see you kind of defeated the purpose of me

00:43:59.740 moving the mic i don't want you to shift your body so if you can just shift your like this perfect go

00:44:05.820 ahead okay um marriage just loyalty love happiness peacefulness but can't you have that without

00:44:17.020 marriage like a hundred percent so do you feel like marriage is necessary outside of religion

00:44:22.380 um no so you don't think it's necessary i don't think marriage is really necessary no would you

00:44:28.460 consider yourself religious or do you have any beliefs that would either propel you towards marriage or

00:44:33.260 you're taking further i don't consider myself religious what do you consider yourself more

00:44:38.060 spiritual in your pre-show notes you stated you practice astrology and witchcraft yes uh can you

00:44:45.900 explain the witchcraft part do you want to know or like i just asked okay so i've been studying

00:44:58.220 astrology since i was like don't care about astrology oh witchcraft the witchcraft yeah got you got

00:45:02.860 you so do you know what white magic is um sure okay well white magic is all positive magic it's to help

00:45:15.820 yourself it's to positively impact you it's the crystals all that bs that you probably don't believe in

00:45:23.660 you know stuff like that it's manifestation is just to help you out and you practice the white magic yes

00:45:31.020 white magic what do you have a name for like you consider yourself a witch um are you more like

00:45:39.740 might you be a mage warlock well i'm still young a warlock is a male listen are warlocks guys can i

00:45:48.380 say something i'm still young so when it comes to things like this it takes years for you to actually

00:45:53.740 have a status to become a artist what is it a top mage whatever you want to call it um it does take a

00:46:04.140 while to like get to six level 60 and stuff like when you're playing it does take a while to like

00:46:09.660 level up to 60 so i get it yeah so yeah yeah wait so you're you're a witch okay do you consider yourself a

00:46:19.180 witch i don't like to call myself a witch because i really appreciate all the witches out there

00:46:25.340 i would say i'm more like a student of a you're learning you're in city college for being a witch

00:46:34.220 sure okay but i also go to regular have you cast any spells have i casted any spells yes why are you

00:46:40.780 asking me that are you scared yeah i'm trembling i'm terrified i see that oh my god

00:46:49.980 uh but did you did you cast any spells are you okay thomas the poet donated 100

00:46:57.260 naomi stop the cap with that sick body you have to have simps on the roster would love to be one on

00:47:04.140 new roster brian great panel tonight so many normal and regular based ladies refreshing

00:47:13.420 uh thomas the poet i'm not cap thank you thomas the poet i appreciate you uh sending a donation

00:47:21.020 no i swear though i actually have no men right now i'm just really busy 100 like i swear yes it's

00:47:27.420 bs why is it why why is that so crazy i would agree i would oh what agree with what go ahead go

00:47:34.300 ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead go i would agree that this is a really great panel because it's not

00:47:38.860 only only fans girls like i actually really appreciate that question that you asked it's like

00:47:42.940 i think candace owens brought that up on here what like that same question about like atheism and

00:47:48.620 marriage oh okay you know the benefits of marriage true i disagree with one of the things that she said

00:47:54.700 i think i think she said that marriage can only be synonymous if you're religious and i totally

00:48:01.820 there's no yeah i would just say i appreciate the question because it does bring up you disagree with

00:48:07.500 candace she said that she said that you can only or basically marriage can only be a marriage if you're

00:48:15.260 religious and religion plays into that marriage so i mean what why get married for any reason other

00:48:23.660 than for religious reasons what commitment like commitment taxes to tell the world that you love

00:48:29.340 your partner wait yeah i have a question there could be a million reasons to get married the financial

00:48:36.140 reasons you stated are fairly negligible i think it's mainly to just show the world that you love this

00:48:43.260 person and you're committed to this person and you're you're having a ceremony in front of all of your

00:48:48.460 friends and your family and you're making that commitment and if you don't have a marriage i'm

00:48:53.580 sorry go ahead and i'll i'll ask account no go ahead go ahead finish and if you don't have a marriage

00:48:59.260 when you're married speaking from somebody that was married there's a way that others who are married

00:49:05.500 see you it's it's almost like you're part of this group you know if somebody is a dog owner and then you

00:49:10.540 meet somebody else that's a dog owner you're you're in this family you're in this group and so for for

00:49:16.460 people who are married they see other people who are married and i don't know if they take them more

00:49:22.380 seriously or their commitment more seriously but they definitely are seen in a particular way so

00:49:27.820 you're saying it confers certain social benefits because of a in-group bias essentially not necessarily

00:49:36.220 not necessarily so let me ask let me ask you a question let me ask you a question what can i let's

00:49:41.900 say there's a secular person who doesn't get married for religious reasons who doesn't get

00:49:47.100 married for religious reasons okay religiosity is not a component to their marriage okay and you you

00:49:53.660 admitted you said that well people even if you're not religious there's there's benefit of getting

00:49:58.220 married what can i as a man get from marriage that i can't get from a long-term life partner uh like

00:50:07.660 monogamous what why should i get married i just i think for the same reason that i said it's to

00:50:17.740 to solidify that commitment in front of your friends and your family and maybe to solidify

00:50:22.860 it well let me introduce a word to this conversation called divorce yeah so there is no and yeah brian but

00:50:29.980 like religious people get divorced as well yeah precisely precisely but at least one of the reasons

00:50:36.140 one of the reasons that someone who's religious gets married is for religious reasons there's a

00:50:42.860 religious motivation there they're they're moving pursuant to their religious beliefs but if you're secular

00:50:49.660 or an atheist i frankly see absolutely no reason i think marriage is just it's like the pinnacle

00:50:55.660 of the relationship it's you cannot get any more committed than being in a marriage and i think

00:51:01.740 for some people myself included i got married because i wanted that final level that max level

00:51:08.220 i wanted to commit to my husband a hundred percent we had gone through lots of ups and downs

00:51:13.660 and we wanted to make it official we wanted to give it a fair a fair basically a fair chance

00:51:21.980 officially officially and not just long-term boyfriend girlfriend living together

00:51:27.100 we wanted to were you guys religious no i would hate to be a girlfriend after 20 years like this

00:51:34.940 is my boyfriend yeah like pop any type of question i don't know it is just like a form of like

00:51:39.980 serious commitment i think what's your question um why do you why is religion related to marriage

00:51:48.220 i why i want to know your standpoint i mean that's that's the origination it's that's the genesis i

00:51:53.500 i understand that but why do you think you should still be religious in order to get married i'm

00:52:00.140 not that's not really the argument i'm making i just don't see if you're if you're secular i see no

00:52:07.340 reason uh to get married and honestly even if you're religious the only reason if you're religious to get

00:52:13.420 married is for your religious values for at least from a man's perspective there's absolutely no reason

00:52:19.500 to get married so brian let me oh can i interrupt yeah let me ask you a question so if you weren't

00:52:24.700 religious but say you met a girl and you were dating a girl and you were really serious with a girl who

00:52:30.140 wasn't super religious but definitely considered religion important to her you didn't if she did she

00:52:37.020 wouldn't date somebody who didn't who wasn't religious agreed oh okay so i mean it's but go

00:52:43.580 let's just say she was mild to moderately religious you didn't want to get married you

00:52:49.180 just wanted to have a lifelong commitment but marriage was really important to her and like

00:52:53.020 i said you were really serious with her you'd been dating her for a couple years you could

00:52:56.380 definitely see yourself long term with her would you get married for her you mean would i do it

00:53:02.940 would you yes because she wants it yes well what about what i want which is to not get married

00:53:09.180 but why can't she be the one to to come into my frame on this and but there's no there's no

00:53:17.180 middle ground there there's no compromise it's either you get married or you don't so are you saying

00:53:23.180 that you would want oh sorry are you saying that you would want her to be the one that compromises

00:53:30.220 absolutely okay uh because the the what if that meant ending the end of the of your relationship then

00:53:37.420 here i got this hold on out you go goodbye okay so i'm not you if you look if a girl wants to be

00:53:47.020 with me you're not gonna you're gonna you're not gonna use this as leverage okay i'm not gonna accept

00:53:53.100 like i'm not gonna accept that you want to be with me you can be with me yeah him only cut off all

00:54:00.140 all your house before the first day well we can get into that later would you make any sort of like

00:54:05.180 compromises what's the compromise i don't know just like if say like she wanted to live in a

00:54:10.300 different city like would you compromise like or what about like a civil ceremony because like does

00:54:15.100 it all like does the whole question at a time please does the whole relationship just have to

00:54:19.180 be everything that you want or are you gonna yeah it does okay it does well i guess i'm not just

00:54:25.420 well look it's you guys you guys want men to lead right you guys want you you want men to take

00:54:30.860 initiative you want men to ask you out you want men to pay all the time let me finish you want men

00:54:35.660 to ask you out you want men to decide what you want to eat that night you don't know what you want

00:54:40.380 to eat i'll pick what you want to eat you want me to make the decisions you want men to be dominant

00:54:45.340 in the bedroom you want men to be leaders okay we don't need the obnoxious gesturing um but it seems

00:54:52.540 like in these so yes i'm going to be the leader in in those sorts of determinations right

00:54:57.500 now in that scenario the only the only scenario where i'm gonna consider marriage or consider

00:55:05.340 something like this is if i'm if i'm in a relationship with a woman who's substantially

00:55:11.500 out earning me okay only then for example if she can sit even then i would still she still needs to

00:55:19.260 defer leadership to me even if she's out earning me i think it's fair to say that's what you're looking

00:55:25.580 for and that's what maybe the majority of women you've been with are looking for but it's not

00:55:30.780 fair to say all women oh i didn't say that when you say women generalize what are you saying but

00:55:38.380 so what do you mean in terms of wanting men to take initiative yeah i don't think necessarily all women

00:55:45.340 want that so it's not fair to say i actually do think it's fair to say generally speaking definitely

00:55:50.540 not i think it's hold on hold on i actually do think it's fair to say to do to use women in the

00:55:56.380 general sense obviously it's not all women in the sense that i could find you one woman who like

00:56:02.140 approaches men or like takes initiative i can certainly find outliers but i don't think it's

00:56:07.020 wrong to for example say humans have 10 fingers there are some humans who are born with 11

00:56:13.740 but it's not wrong to say that humans have 10 fingers yeah and and i think naturally biologically

00:56:23.260 women are wired to to be more submissive but i think when you kind of throw in the lovely cultural stew of

00:56:29.340 feminism and all these weird just new social standards like the me too movement i think makes

00:56:35.180 it very hard for men to feel like they can approach women then you get women whether it's cope or they

00:56:40.140 actually are delusional and believe it but thinking that they want to be more in their like masculine

00:56:44.860 energy and making decisions but i think that's largely a side effect of culture as opposed to

00:56:50.300 your biological wiring wait so you think it's

00:56:57.020 what i mean if you had to assign a percentage in terms of women wanting men to be leaders and take

00:57:03.980 initiative do you think it's 80 women 70 women a question of how many women really identify as

00:57:12.540 feminists and have taken that as a core part of their identity i know there are some statistics that

00:57:18.220 say it's like oh i wasn't asking you i was asking her i was like yeah sorry what was it how the

00:57:24.140 percentage well because so i made the statement that while women want men to take initiative be leaders

00:57:29.740 etc and you were like well that's it's not all women and i don't know if you're arguing like i i'm not

00:57:36.780 arguing i was just saying no no i'm not upset if you are even if you are arguing but um like i don't

00:57:42.060 think what you're saying is necessarily false i just don't think we should generalize well i mean

00:57:46.940 just for the sake of a conversation that can be helpful sometimes to generalize but i mean we can

00:57:52.940 generalize i i mean in the sense that have you ever approached a guy i have you have i have

00:58:03.260 okay when you say you approached a guy did you like make eye contact with him and you considered

00:58:08.460 that making the approach no i'm not scared to go up to men if i find them attractive and maybe ask

00:58:13.980 like of all the times that you've gone on the first date who initiated that there's been a few times

00:58:18.860 i have you did yeah okay do you think that's the case for most women no no not necessarily

00:58:25.100 okay do you think do you think we could probably find like a large cohort of women who have never

00:58:31.260 initiated absolutely okay but who have been on numerous first dates yeah like do you think that

00:58:37.740 there's like even the majority of women have never even approached a guy but they've been on

00:58:43.260 if they wanted to or maybe they have gone on dozens of first dates yeah i agree with that do you think

00:58:48.620 you could say the same thing about men that there's a majority of men who have never made the

00:58:52.700 first move and have been on dozens of dates no i don't think so okay so there's differences i mean

00:59:00.300 there's differences anyways we're talking about marriage uh again i don't i don't see the benefit

00:59:06.940 right i agree with you uh having been married myself i think it complicates a lot of things

00:59:13.180 um i think it complicates a lot of things you know uh financially that's a big one for me

00:59:22.780 financially like if i get into another relationship again i would prefer to have things um

00:59:30.460 separated as far as finances and kind of i i fiercely embrace my independence as a woman

00:59:37.820 um so i guess getting into something that's a little bit more long term i biggest thing i would

00:59:46.460 do is probably move in with a person but um i think that you know with divorce and finances and uh

00:59:56.540 i think that that complicates a lot of things so i guess that's why i probably would never

01:00:00.860 get married again but that's just just me um um i agree with you brian that in the secular world

01:00:09.180 um only women benefit from marriage and men do not yeah there's no benefit men do not benefit

01:00:16.620 i'm okay with that you're okay with that yeah okay um brian you didn't answer my question would you

01:00:22.300 you get married would you get married it's like in a civil ceremony why as a compromise like you're

01:00:29.340 not legally getting married you're not signing any legal documents i mean i'd have to review the laws

01:00:33.820 but in this hypothetical no like if it was just for example a backyard party you have all of your

01:00:40.220 friends and your family there and you're saying how much does she want verbal party is it what ten

01:00:44.700 thousand dollars it's just a barbecue but you said you wanted a ceremony so would this take place in

01:00:50.540 the church like what no backyard so you're living together the ceremony is we invite a bunch of our

01:00:57.260 friends over yeah and you say like a half-assed yeah and you say commitment that's like some back

01:01:03.180 you do whatever live stream you're she's getting she's getting what she wants which is a commitment

01:01:09.900 like a like a commitment that she's showing in front of her friends and family but you get you're

01:01:14.700 getting what you want but what is she actually getting like what is she i think for women and i and

01:01:19.900 i know that a lot of women will concur with me i think women and i'm not saying all women but i

01:01:25.420 think a lot of women want the show want the the the having people make witness to the testament of love

01:01:36.300 and their love and having their friends and their family and having people witness it is a big deal for

01:01:42.700 women and it's not about the party and it's not about the money it's literally having all of the people

01:01:49.020 that she loves in her life witness it am i alone so you're saying that women so women want to have

01:01:56.380 the ceremony but they don't want to be a wife i don't think that's i've heard that i don't think

01:02:02.060 that's what she's saying i don't know if that's what she's saying comparing it to a traditional like

01:02:06.380 religious marriage like you still have that celebration right in front of everybody and like

01:02:11.660 yes it's with god but it's still that celebration with your loved ones just to celebrate something

01:02:17.740 but what so so the commitment is what the love towards yeah we have a ceremony yeah it's just

01:02:24.620 where it symbolizes yeah it's your commitment because what is what's so wrong with that i mean

01:02:28.620 you can make i'm kind of introverted to each other but i'm good on the ceremony let's not have any

01:02:32.940 friends over i don't want to do catering catering i'm good i'm good i'm good out of luck

01:02:40.460 what's the ceremony it doesn't establish any sort of commitment i feel like some men actually like

01:02:48.860 do like the ceremony as well though like i think it is mostly for women but i think there are men out

01:02:54.220 there that are like okay yeah like i want to show my friends and family like this is like the love of

01:02:58.620 my life and it's just a fun like little celebration type exactly i think there's a lot of people out

01:03:02.540 there that are like that yeah and it doesn't have to do for some people it's not like about god and other

01:03:07.980 people it is regardless of how you feel about her are you willing to compromise for who you find

01:03:14.060 and just do what they what would make them happy even if you don't see a beneficial point in it

01:03:19.180 are you willing to do that what what is the compromise though you're not getting married

01:03:23.820 legally but she's getting us a commitment said it earlier and he said that he wouldn't compromise he

01:03:30.460 wants a woman that wants to do exactly look there's some things you can compromise on but

01:03:35.260 i just fail to see the purpose right of a non like a non-binding like ceremony i don't really

01:03:45.980 i feel like it's a status symbol like women want to be able to be like i got the guy which as we all

01:03:50.780 do but in the like hypergamous mind of women it's like you get to show off to your friends that

01:03:56.140 you got the guy assuming he's like higher value because i feel like if you were marrying someone that

01:04:00.540 your parents didn't approve of you wouldn't be all like let's go have a wedding and bring all the

01:04:04.300 friends here and have and show it off to everyone i feel like it's kind of a you want to show off

01:04:09.820 which is good you should want to show off your partner so then is that not the difference in

01:04:13.500 male female sex so wait what the ceremony who who is that the head of the sarah i have a

01:04:18.700 you're not nobody nobody's officiating it's just you and your partner do i have to give a speech

01:04:23.660 not if you don't want to it's so it's your wedding there's no ceremony then it's literally it's

01:04:29.020 just it's a party i'm okay with a party basically anything you can do whatever you want anything

01:04:35.260 could be a ceremony it could be it could be as simple as you exchanging anything could be a

01:04:40.140 ceremony and that's someone that does this podcast like he's really nervous he's like is there gonna

01:04:43.980 be a speech like what well because you said you were introverted right well i guess it's different

01:04:50.620 there's only so many people definition of a ceremony though i think that's what he's trying to get at

01:04:56.220 yeah what's the least amount that he could do what's your definition of a ceremony because

01:05:00.220 there's a lot of different types of ceremonies and do you know that marriages are also kind of

01:05:04.300 considered as rituals

01:05:08.940 word word um as far as the ceremony goes i mean sure i guess i don't know

01:05:15.580 there you go do the barbecue i'll do i'll do a barbecue that just sounds like a party though

01:05:20.540 it doesn't sound like he's making a deal not like party a party could be a ceremony i don't like

01:05:24.220 parties it literally could just be a couple sentences back and forth sentences yeah no more

01:05:29.740 than five minutes i feel like so backwoods also haggard i don't i don't know if you didn't like

01:05:36.300 want to have like a huge wedding like you didn't like you don't necessarily need to like you can

01:05:40.140 have it with just like a few people that's the thing that's the thing that's the anti-wedding

01:05:43.180 you don't ever ever you never want no wedding doesn't want to win i don't want a wedding don't

01:05:48.620 want a marriage you want a girl to cut off all of her hose before the first date but you will not

01:05:55.180 commit to her ever of course i'm committing to her brian how do you prove it naomi how do you prove it

01:06:02.780 oh but without a wedding how do you prove what would you wait i don't know how do i prove prove

01:06:07.660 what i mean the marriage is kind of that simple like the proof of commitment that's what it is

01:06:13.900 gonna get a promise ring but okay so let's let's actually go back to religious weddings so what

01:06:20.060 what are the uh the vows that are typically exchanged till death do us part what's the

01:06:26.060 divorce rate in this country 50 i think it's more than 50 yeah so you you get up you do a

01:06:32.620 we're we're part of five figure you do you two are divorced you do a five figure ceremony there

01:06:40.540 there's a there's a head of the church there whatever and you you exchange vows in front of

01:06:47.020 dozens or even hundreds of your closest friends and family you say i will be with you till death do us

01:06:54.140 part and despite this commitment and despite the ceremony people still get divorced frequently

01:07:02.620 frequently so you you talk of commitment where's the commitment and women overwhelmingly initiate

01:07:08.300 divorces it's like 80 of women end divorces so it's interesting to me how can it possibly be

01:07:15.980 actually i want to go around the table on this here we'll go around the table on this

01:07:21.260 more often than not of all the relationships that you've had and this can be anywhere from you've

01:07:26.540 gone on a couple dates to you've been dating for years to marry more often than not do you end the

01:07:33.100 relationship or does the guy i've ended every single relationship you've ended every single

01:07:38.060 relationship what about you i've also ended every single relationship how many relationships have

01:07:41.820 you been in three what about you three what about you yeah same the last one was like kind of

01:07:47.100 mutual well state state your answer mostly me mostly you how many relationships have you been in

01:07:54.780 four five what about you i've ended them all i think like five five relationships you've ended them all

01:08:00.380 i've ended them all and i've only been in two two what about you i think i've been in like five or six

01:08:06.940 and only once has somebody else ended the relationship what about you i would say 75 me and i think i've been in

01:08:16.300 eight or nine relationships uh i've been in four relationships and i've ended all of them

01:08:21.900 ended all three whoa so hold on you got uh a typical complaint i hear from women is

01:08:30.300 why are men so commitment phobic why are men scared of commitment why don't men want to get married

01:08:37.260 well we've just i mean this is because they cheat right but you guys are so pressed to get commitment

01:08:43.900 from men i'm not pressed at all hold on hold on hold on you guys want commitment so badly you want

01:08:50.060 marriage so badly i don't want marriage okay hold on hold on let me make my point

01:08:55.340 it does seem to be would you agree though that typically it seems to be women who will like

01:09:00.540 push men towards commitment like trying to get commitment from the man in my experience no okay

01:09:07.740 in any case in any case i often hear complaints from women saying that men why are they scared of

01:09:13.180 commitment they're commitment phobic why don't men want to commit all of you it's almost unanimous

01:09:21.020 have ended all of your relationships once you get commitment you overwhelmingly

01:09:26.540 it's not so who's really who's really who's the one who's how many girls have been cheated on

01:09:33.260 all of you ended all of you that's why you ended the relationship all of you ended your relationships

01:09:44.700 like i feel like probably most of the women here have like ended those relationships because that man

01:09:50.220 probably did some lack of commitment like lack of commitment like she said like i ended both or one

01:09:55.900 of mine because i was getting cheated on and then the only reason i ended the other one was just

01:10:00.620 because we weren't like right for each other but y'all talk about commitment like oh brian you're just

01:10:05.500 you don't want to get married but if you find out that they're people then like y'all be ending

01:10:10.140 all of your relationships because they weren't working out it has nothing why is that going on brian

01:10:14.220 i have an answer why why can't you commit and work through the problem i have an answer

01:10:18.460 some problems aren't worth working someone who just came out of a relationship that i had okay that

01:10:22.380 was fair that was just he was trying to get you back no no no that's where he draws a lot that's

01:10:27.020 legit no i mean i give you a pass i mean my last relationship the seven month one um i feel like

01:10:32.940 and i'll speak for myself i don't want to speak for everyone but i feel like um i compromise my own

01:10:38.540 boundaries uh for the sake of love and for the sake of you know this person's so great it you know

01:10:44.620 overshadows all the negative and i feel like um by not having boundaries and by not upholding them you

01:10:51.020 allow things in your life that later on hurt you and ultimately end up being the demise of the

01:10:56.700 relationship to begin with sure so i feel like having standards and having boundaries and respecting

01:11:01.260 yourself the most out of everyone in your life no one is going to respect you more than you respect

01:11:05.820 you and what you allow to happen will continue to happen so i feel like for myself this is why i'm

01:11:11.420 single and will stay single for a while is i need to work on my self-respect because i require a lot

01:11:16.780 i deserve a lot and i bring a lot to the table and i feel like um as women it's easy to let our

01:11:21.420 boundaries slip um for the sake of love did i make a point though brian well what was the point well you

01:11:28.780 said that men don't want to commit and like they they don't that's the reason why we ultimately end up

01:11:34.700 ending relationships or they're just abusive all of us like raise our hands right there they did

01:11:39.820 something to make us initiate that why is it that we we should just there so you're saying okay

01:11:44.780 with them is your argument that in for all the girls here who answered when they in all the

01:11:50.380 instances that they ended a relationship in every instance it was either infidelity or abuse do you

01:11:57.100 genuinely think that that's the case that's for all instances when women and uh relationships

01:12:04.380 no but i'm saying there always has to be here how many girls are here right now and we all raised our

01:12:08.700 hands yeah about what that you got cheated on yeah and that's a reason why we ended a relationship it

01:12:14.140 it wasn't just like oh i'm sick of you that's justifiable i think girls are more loyal than

01:12:18.460 guys and not so sure about that girls what does commitment mean though like i don't think commitment

01:12:24.060 means oh you stay together forever no matter what like i don't think that's what the ultimate

01:12:28.140 i mean until things are you shouldn't be together anymore i don't know i just just because we've

01:12:34.060 broken up with our boyfriends doesn't mean we don't want commitment we just want the person

01:12:37.740 that we're with at that time to be committed to us and it goes back to self-respect i said in the

01:12:42.460 beginning that cheating is a non-negotiable for me so if that's something who is it i mean who would

01:12:49.020 wait i have a question the last time i was on here michael knows was on here and he said even if

01:12:54.300 his wife cheated on him he would stay with her and i'm like he's catholic though he's catholic although

01:12:59.100 i don't know uh in infidelity you can can you i think even in the catholic faith if there's abuse or

01:13:06.700 something you can still get a divorce but i'm just saying like that's okay papal disposition

01:13:13.100 what anyways hold on i gotta move on i want to bring it back to what we were talking about though

01:13:18.460 it all stemmed from me asking you about your witchcraft and somehow it got into marriage he

01:13:24.300 was asking if you were religious because you got the cross on your you're wearing a cross

01:13:28.380 yeah i said it was but then on your so you have a cross earring here but on your other side there's

01:13:33.980 a pentagram isn't pentagram and then it also has the astrology wheel right here okay but why wear the

01:13:40.780 cross at all because you know what the cross symbolizes and if you don't but i do know what

01:13:45.100 does it symbolize yeah of course christianity no but no but more get more granular with it what

01:13:50.220 do you want to explain it for me yeah i have no problem so the cross the cross is a symbol um

01:13:54.860 um worldwide uh to represent that christ died on the cross was crucified on the cross and that is

01:14:03.340 the only symbol for what a cross stands for hold on thomas the poet donated 100 are you christian

01:14:11.340 the lack of accountability from the ladies on the panel is just astounding are you saying you played

01:14:17.020 no role in the end of the relationship if you played no role then can you not choose good men

01:14:23.100 what so to that to that question absolutely i it takes two to tango and i feel like i didn't show up

01:14:30.300 in a relationship respecting myself and i allowed myself to be disrespected and that's my part in the

01:14:36.380 relationship is going into it not fully being the person i you you need to be the person you want to

01:14:45.260 find a partner like the the level of respect the level of morals and values you're talking to her right

01:14:52.380 no i'm answering the question okay i see okay no i'm just saying so um the question that came up on

01:14:56.540 the screen hold on seven six tillion seven hundred and seventy seven sextillion seven seven hundred and

01:15:04.540 seventy seven quake trillion seven hundred and seventy seventy seven quadrillion seven hundred and seventy

01:15:09.980 seven trillion seven hundred and seventy seven billion seven hundred and seventy seven million seven

01:15:15.180 $777,777 donated $100.

01:15:20.320 That's dope, though, for the donation.

01:15:21.220 Question for the ladies.

01:15:22.400 What decades did World War I and World War II occur?

01:15:26.220 Bonus question.

01:15:27.820 Name one allied power and one axis power from World War II.

01:15:31.340 Okay, we're going to start with you.

01:15:32.220 We'll go around the table on this question.

01:15:33.880 What was the question?

01:15:35.040 Decades.

01:15:35.680 What decades did World War I and World War II occur?

01:15:39.000 And then there's the bonus question.

01:15:40.180 Name one allied power and one axis power from World War II.

01:15:43.800 Go ahead.

01:15:44.060 I'm not educated enough for that answer.

01:15:46.540 Here, we're going to start with the decades, starting with you.

01:15:52.100 I'm not educated enough for that answer.

01:15:53.660 How about just guess?

01:15:55.080 I don't have a guess.

01:15:56.260 You don't want to guess?

01:15:57.020 Pull your mic closer to you, please.

01:15:58.540 No guess.

01:15:59.340 Pull your mic closer.

01:16:00.440 Don't pull yourself closer to the mic.

01:16:02.540 Yes, sir.

01:16:03.960 Just take a guess.

01:16:05.520 Engage with the message.

01:16:08.920 Nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine.

01:16:10.860 Just, no, just.

01:16:11.840 You don't have a guess.

01:16:14.340 How about what century do you think World War I and World War II occurred?

01:16:18.400 A hundred.

01:16:19.420 No, just answer.

01:16:20.380 Okay, you're not going to be bad faith.

01:16:21.780 Answer the question.

01:16:23.500 I just, I'm not educated enough for this, like, topic.

01:16:27.140 I don't want to give my response.

01:16:28.960 Can you respect that?

01:16:29.980 Are you just going to say that for all the other questions, though?

01:16:34.460 No, no, of course not.

01:16:36.000 Well, why don't you just engage in good faith with the question and just take a guess?

01:16:39.620 Okay, can I have, like, a time range that I can guess from?

01:16:43.400 Give her an A, B, C.

01:16:44.540 So.

01:16:45.080 Yeah, like.

01:16:45.900 A, B, C.

01:16:46.880 Jesus.

01:16:47.200 So, so there's, there's.

01:16:50.260 I haven't taken a history of that for so long.

01:16:54.020 A, there's B, B, C, A, D.

01:16:56.400 The B, C.

01:16:56.600 So let's say from, like, year zero to 2000.

01:17:01.020 That's the range.

01:17:02.720 Zero.

01:17:03.440 World War I, World War II.

01:17:04.480 Oh, World War II.

01:17:05.840 Okay.

01:17:06.180 Yeah, that one.

01:17:07.020 So, A, C.

01:17:09.960 Fuck.

01:17:10.940 Can I just say A, C at this point?

01:17:13.860 Air conditioning?

01:17:14.980 Yeah, air conditioning.

01:17:16.360 Yeah, literally.

01:17:17.680 Okay, but just, you're, you're going to have to answer the question.

01:17:21.160 Okay.

01:17:21.780 Take a guess.

01:17:22.540 After Christ and then century.

01:17:30.620 Fourth?

01:17:33.100 Tenth?

01:17:34.740 Century?

01:17:35.140 Three, six, nine?

01:17:36.660 Mafia?

01:17:39.520 Do you want to just answer the question so I can move things along?

01:17:41.920 I don't know what century.

01:17:43.720 I don't know.

01:17:44.160 There's a difference between giving a troll answer and making a good faith guess.

01:17:47.480 Go ahead.

01:17:49.560 Why does she have to guess?

01:17:51.260 Stop.

01:17:52.000 Just go ahead.

01:17:57.500 You're burning a lot of time here.

01:17:59.160 I know.

01:17:59.280 Can you kindly just make a guess?

01:18:00.660 But I told you I'm not educated.

01:18:02.760 Clearly.

01:18:03.240 What about you?

01:18:03.820 Thank you.

01:18:05.060 Might sound really stupid, but early 1900s.

01:18:08.980 So, okay, what decades did World War I and World War II occur?

01:18:12.920 In the 1900s?

01:18:14.600 Well, there's, those are two separate wars.

01:18:18.360 I know.

01:18:19.360 I'm saying that.

01:18:20.300 Okay, early 1900s.

01:18:21.460 Yeah.

01:18:22.640 Decade?

01:18:23.220 Give us a decade.

01:18:24.600 I don't know what that timeline is.

01:18:25.160 So, 1910s, 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s?

01:18:28.520 I'm going to guess World War I was early 1920s, maybe, 1920s to 30s.

01:18:35.840 World War II, maybe 50s to 60s.

01:18:38.200 All right.

01:18:38.520 What about you?

01:18:38.880 I'm not good at history.

01:18:42.000 I was a science major.

01:18:46.460 1930s for World War I, 1940s for World War II.

01:18:50.360 That's my final answer.

01:18:51.400 What about you?

01:18:52.820 Yeah, 1920s to 30s for World War I, and then later for World War II.

01:18:59.400 Which?

01:19:00.560 Just give.

01:19:02.600 Sure, like 50s, 60s.

01:19:04.440 50s, 60s, okay.

01:19:05.560 I would say 1930s, 1940s for World War I, and then 50s, 60s for II.

01:19:11.820 I don't know.

01:19:12.280 All right.

01:19:14.480 1910s to 1920s for World War I, 1920s to 40s, late 1920s to 40s for World War II.

01:19:24.760 Okay.

01:19:25.380 What about you?

01:19:26.440 To be honest, I have no idea.

01:19:28.220 I was a science major, too.

01:19:29.500 I'm going to guess early, or the 10s decade in the 40s.

01:19:35.740 Okay.

01:19:37.020 10s decade, 1917 for World War I.

01:19:40.740 What is it?

01:19:41.480 1934 to 1934 or 1936 for World War II.

01:19:48.060 I was going to say 18.

01:19:48.780 July 1914 to September, 1918, and then November, 1939.

01:20:03.220 Period.

01:20:03.520 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

01:20:04.400 September.

01:20:04.840 We love the history.

01:20:05.720 First, technically.

01:20:07.500 1939 to September, I think, 2nd, 1941.

01:20:10.920 That's our history girl right there.

01:20:12.240 And can we name us a history girl?

01:20:13.760 Yes, we do.

01:20:14.640 We are going to do the bonus question.

01:20:16.640 We'll go around.

01:20:17.540 So, this is for World War II.

01:20:20.000 This is for World War II.

01:20:22.260 Don't read that.

01:20:23.560 This is for World War II.

01:20:25.240 Name one Allied power and one Axis power from World War II.

01:20:28.740 Go ahead.

01:20:30.880 I hate this.

01:20:32.880 I don't know.

01:20:33.580 How is this really?

01:20:34.060 Go ahead.

01:20:34.600 What did you say?

01:20:35.720 I was reading the comment.

01:20:36.900 Yeah, I was literally...

01:20:38.140 God, bro.

01:20:40.400 Please, just try to pay attention.

01:20:41.680 You've been zoning out, looking at the fucking monitor the entire time.

01:20:45.000 For the rest of the show, don't even look at the monitor.

01:20:47.540 Yes, sir.

01:20:47.680 Look at me or look at who's talking.

01:20:49.440 Okay.

01:20:49.920 Okay.

01:20:51.560 World War II.

01:20:52.740 One Allied power, one Axis power.

01:20:54.520 Go ahead.

01:20:56.700 I don't even know what that means.

01:20:58.840 One Allied power and Axis power.

01:20:59.680 Okay.

01:20:59.900 Are you familiar at all with World War II?

01:21:01.660 I haven't taken a history class in like four years.

01:21:05.000 Okay.

01:21:05.320 So, name a bad guy and name a good guy.

01:21:09.280 Oh, my God.

01:21:10.880 From World War II.

01:21:12.220 I don't know.

01:21:14.500 Why do you keep asking me these questions that I don't know?

01:21:17.380 I keep telling you I'm not.

01:21:18.380 Is your answer just you don't know?

01:21:19.760 Yeah.

01:21:20.080 Okay.

01:21:20.360 What about you?

01:21:21.540 One Allied power, one Axis power from World War II.

01:21:24.680 I'm going to be honest.

01:21:25.720 I'm not going to sound too much of a genius.

01:21:28.780 I'm not totally sure on the definition of those, so I don't know if I feel comfortable answering.

01:21:33.140 Exactly.

01:21:35.540 Okay.

01:21:35.960 I'm sorry.

01:21:37.100 Fuck.

01:21:38.160 Um, shit.

01:21:41.420 Japan.

01:21:42.560 For which?

01:21:44.080 Exactly.

01:21:45.280 They were against us.

01:21:46.940 The Brawnaissance donated $100.

01:21:50.180 Is that right?

01:21:50.540 Repeal the 19th Amendment immediately.

01:21:52.940 The majority of these women make our tardy people look like they have their stuff together.

01:21:58.060 Gothmongrel chick needs the boot.

01:22:00.180 Gustavo, get the fucking rocks.

01:22:02.120 What does boost mean?

01:22:04.060 Get the rocks.

01:22:05.100 Abdul, get the rocks.

01:22:09.460 I said Pearl Harbor.

01:22:12.300 That's not a power.

01:22:13.760 Like, that's not one of the powers.

01:22:15.560 That was Japan.

01:22:17.460 So, okay.

01:22:17.920 I know.

01:22:18.260 I was saying that was in my head.

01:22:19.700 One Allied power, one Axis power from World War II.

01:22:23.560 Okay.

01:22:23.900 What about you?

01:22:25.360 Um, we were against Vietnam.

01:22:30.280 No.

01:22:31.040 Oh, boy.

01:22:32.120 Oh, my God.

01:22:36.340 Do it.

01:22:36.820 Tell me.

01:22:38.460 Wait.

01:22:39.020 So, World War II.

01:22:40.420 One Allied power, one Axis power.

01:22:42.420 Go ahead.

01:22:43.300 I obviously do not know.

01:22:44.680 Okay.

01:22:45.000 What about you?

01:22:45.560 I don't know either.

01:22:46.600 So, I'm just not going to guess either.

01:22:48.160 Okay.

01:22:48.500 I don't know how it's relevant.

01:22:49.900 The British for Allied.

01:22:50.960 Just to make us look stupid.

01:22:51.880 Sure.

01:22:52.120 Why was I, like, flamed for it?

01:22:55.940 Russia or Japan.

01:22:57.820 Yeah.

01:22:58.500 Okay.

01:22:58.860 All right.

01:22:59.260 What about you?

01:23:00.400 Um, uh, Midway, Japan for...

01:23:04.640 Midway was an island in the Pacific, but...

01:23:08.120 Right.

01:23:08.680 But that was...

01:23:10.520 That was a...

01:23:11.040 Japan.

01:23:12.180 Right?

01:23:12.620 That was part of Pearl Harbor.

01:23:14.660 Yes.

01:23:15.000 Japan.

01:23:15.520 Yeah.

01:23:15.640 Axis power.

01:23:16.400 Yep.

01:23:16.540 Mm-hmm.

01:23:17.280 Um.

01:23:18.180 Allied power?

01:23:19.400 Uh, the British.

01:23:22.220 Okay.

01:23:22.600 What about you?

01:23:23.080 Uh, I would say the British is...

01:23:26.420 I'm just piggybacking off of you, to be honest.

01:23:29.340 I would say the British are our...

01:23:31.580 Our...

01:23:32.140 Our...

01:23:32.780 Our...

01:23:33.500 Gosh, say that five times fast.

01:23:35.300 Are our allies.

01:23:38.640 Okay.

01:23:39.480 And in Japan.

01:23:40.420 Do you want to give us three Allied powers?

01:23:43.080 I thought this was a dating show.

01:23:45.040 I don't understand how this is relevant, bro.

01:23:47.420 In Japan, Mussolini, Italy, Hitler, Germany, and then on the other side of things, you have

01:23:51.900 the United States, France, not the Vichy government, you also have the Soviet Union,

01:23:56.280 technically China, a bunch of other countries.

01:23:59.640 I'm a STEM major, to be fair.

01:24:01.700 Yeah, a lot of us were.

01:24:02.400 Yeah, I'm a...

01:24:02.680 You know, but like, World War II, like...

01:24:05.400 Thank you for the crash course.

01:24:06.520 The United States, Germany.

01:24:08.320 Yeah, but all the history books...

01:24:09.580 A lot of us haven't taken history in, like, six years.

01:24:12.400 I graduated high school in, like...

01:24:14.320 But don't you...

01:24:15.040 Like, World War II, the biggest conflict ever.

01:24:17.580 But the history books, are they really that accurate?

01:24:20.000 Not a lot of us, like, whatever.

01:24:22.800 Not a lot of us.

01:24:23.260 Do you think understanding history matters?

01:24:25.160 I feel like you guys...

01:24:26.360 I do, 100%.

01:24:26.900 Do you guys know more about Kim Kardashian?

01:24:29.960 I think this shows that the school system here has failed us.

01:24:33.340 Yeah, it really...

01:24:34.820 Let's blame the school system.

01:24:36.260 Or the history books.

01:24:37.700 But what about, like, self-knowledge?

01:24:38.860 I just think I can't remember, like, a lot.

01:24:40.540 Like, I'm on Wikipedia, look at the show.

01:24:42.520 What other self-knowledge topics?

01:24:43.860 Wikipedia is not a good spot for self-knowledge.

01:24:47.220 History is one.

01:24:48.140 I want to keep it, you know, the chatter sent it in, I asked it, but it's not related.

01:24:54.320 Yeah, that's what they wanted.

01:24:55.420 I think, to be fair, every single person at this table has something that we all look

01:24:59.620 knowledgeable in.

01:25:00.280 Let's move forward.

01:25:01.120 Nah, bro said he uses, like, Wikipedia.

01:25:04.280 All right.

01:25:04.760 Whatever.

01:25:06.020 Go ahead.

01:25:06.560 Yeah.

01:25:07.540 Where is it?

01:25:08.560 Did you see it?

01:25:09.560 Oh, Bree is easily the most beautiful woman you've had on.

01:25:12.560 You should all recognize.

01:25:14.260 That'd be who.

01:25:14.820 She is beautiful.

01:25:15.740 Who would date Brian, matchmaking, brown eye out.

01:25:19.400 Who's Bree?

01:25:21.080 Who's Bree?

01:25:21.580 Oh.

01:25:22.220 Okay.

01:25:22.540 Hey, Brian.

01:25:23.420 Hey.

01:25:26.340 Oh, my God.

01:25:27.240 All right.

01:25:27.560 If you want.

01:25:28.180 Okay.

01:25:28.340 We'll go around the table.

01:25:29.240 He's asking if you would date me.

01:25:31.520 Go ahead.

01:25:32.740 No.

01:25:33.760 That's fine?

01:25:34.740 No.

01:25:35.660 I don't have any hoes, so, I mean, if you want to get dinner after this.

01:25:39.420 Not him.

01:25:40.640 No.

01:25:41.580 Yeah.

01:25:42.380 Oh, okay.

01:25:43.220 All right.

01:25:43.460 That's nice.

01:25:43.740 How old are you?

01:25:44.620 34.

01:25:46.700 Too young?

01:25:47.520 Too young?

01:25:47.860 I like the dad bods.

01:25:48.980 All right.

01:25:49.180 Wait, would you date me?

01:25:50.680 I have a question, Brian.

01:25:52.360 No.

01:25:54.000 Sorry, no.

01:25:55.400 You're very cool.

01:25:57.080 All right.

01:25:57.540 There you go.

01:25:58.380 All right.

01:25:59.300 Yeah.

01:26:00.240 What was your question?

01:26:01.700 If I were to say yes, would you date me for my age?

01:26:05.480 Wait, what do you mean for your age?

01:26:07.680 Yeah, like, am I too young for you?

01:26:09.440 No.

01:26:10.020 Okay.

01:26:10.420 Interesting.

01:26:10.780 There's other considerations, though.

01:26:13.580 I will say that.

01:26:14.840 Okay.

01:26:15.780 We have...

01:26:16.700 Wait, can you only date, like, male witches, if that's a thing, or...

01:26:20.440 She can date warlocks.

01:26:21.520 No.

01:26:21.700 Who do you date?

01:26:22.460 Wait, let me have you read this one.

01:26:24.460 Love the panel tonight, especially Naomi.

01:26:26.960 Effing love her, Brian.

01:26:28.240 Her body is just sick.

01:26:29.620 Naomi, I totally crush for you.

01:26:32.460 Simp.

01:26:33.200 How do I make that happen?

01:26:35.220 She does.

01:26:35.740 She has visible abs.

01:26:37.120 Is this, like, one of your homies?

01:26:39.820 I don't know.

01:26:40.200 I hope so.

01:26:41.260 It's just a little.

01:26:42.820 Are you subbed to my OnlyFans, Thomas?

01:26:44.580 Ha ha.

01:26:46.280 Maybe.

01:26:48.800 What?

01:26:49.280 You're getting money from this.

01:26:50.640 All right.

01:26:50.960 Thank you, Thomas.

01:26:51.540 Say thank you.

01:26:51.880 Thank you, Thomas.

01:26:52.560 Yeah, literally.

01:26:53.240 It's just a little simpish, you know.

01:26:55.800 But all right.

01:26:56.180 Thank you, Thomas.

01:26:56.440 I like simps.

01:26:57.160 I told you that last time.

01:26:58.560 Can you read this one?

01:26:59.740 With seeing a Crystal's girl for a couple of months, she said she'd never get married

01:27:04.620 because she doesn't want government to have a say in her relationship.

01:27:08.240 She was a walking red flag, but that throat was primo.

01:27:12.780 Oh, man.

01:27:14.820 Was I supposed to say that?

01:27:16.300 She was the mouth that got away.

01:27:18.820 Ha ha ha.

01:27:21.700 Okay.

01:27:22.440 Yes.

01:27:22.880 Thank you, Clay.

01:27:25.220 Or maybe he, she got away.

01:27:27.880 That's interesting.

01:27:28.800 All right.

01:27:29.200 And then we have a chat here from Stephen.

01:27:32.060 Thank you.

01:27:32.820 Marriage is a spiritual union.

01:27:34.940 Covenant before God.

01:27:36.000 Marriage between a man and a woman is a direct reflection, spelling error, of Christ's love

01:27:41.860 for the church.

01:27:42.680 All you brainwashed 304s resist.

01:27:45.900 The slave mind trump 2024.

01:27:48.560 Hashtag Christ is king.

01:27:51.000 Okay.

01:27:52.080 Stephen Carrera, appreciate your super chat, man.

01:27:54.520 Thank you very much.

01:27:55.360 Thank you.

01:27:55.700 Thank you.

01:27:56.000 Thank you.

01:27:57.080 Okay.

01:27:57.520 Where were we?

01:27:58.140 We were talking about you being a witch.

01:28:00.380 You were talking about...

01:28:01.680 I think we got halfway around the table about something.

01:28:04.900 Yeah.

01:28:05.460 We moved on a different topic.

01:28:06.340 I don't think so.

01:28:07.340 Yeah, we were.

01:28:08.360 Yeah.

01:28:08.720 I don't know what it was.

01:28:09.280 I don't remember what it was either.

01:28:10.700 We were way off topic.

01:28:12.140 Way past it.

01:28:13.020 I think you were talking about marriage.

01:28:14.740 Yeah.

01:28:15.380 It was something to do with marriage.

01:28:16.940 Yeah.

01:28:17.180 Was it?

01:28:17.740 Yeah.

01:28:18.920 We were talking about...

01:28:19.740 Oh, you're right.

01:28:21.500 Are you actually single?

01:28:23.520 Yeah.

01:28:24.220 Oh, yeah.

01:28:24.520 The conversation.

01:28:25.480 I was a little more curious just to wrap up the witch conversation.

01:28:28.360 Um, so you cast spells or what, what exactly do you do?

01:28:32.800 Um, currently I'm not casting spells.

01:28:36.560 I'm just educating myself a little bit more before I have done like one or two spells,

01:28:42.980 but it was all about myself.

01:28:44.360 It was all about...

01:28:44.900 Okay.

01:28:45.320 I see.

01:28:45.700 ...spiritual empowerment and stuff like that.

01:28:47.620 Okay.

01:28:48.160 Got it.

01:28:48.900 Got it.

01:28:49.440 All right.

01:28:50.320 So we were going around the table when it comes to your relationship status.

01:28:55.960 So I think we, we finished with you.

01:29:01.520 You claimed proper single.

01:29:03.660 Yeah, I'm single.

01:29:04.580 You're proper...

01:29:05.460 Wait, but so hold on.

01:29:06.880 We'll get to you in a sec.

01:29:08.460 So last time you were on the show, you gave me quite a bit of pushback because I said that

01:29:13.860 when first meeting a girl, I would want her to be properly single and not like dating

01:29:18.560 a bunch of other dudes, even if she wasn't have sex with them, I just wouldn't want a

01:29:22.300 girl who's like dating a bunch of dudes.

01:29:24.380 Certainly it's a hundred percent a deal breaker if she's currently sexually involved with another

01:29:28.400 guy, even if it's casual, even if it's casual for me, a hundred percent deal breaker, goodbye

01:29:33.180 back to the streets you go.

01:29:34.780 Yet you are currently precisely in that situation.

01:29:38.700 But so why, why do you find it objectionable for me to essentially desire a woman who's in

01:29:44.640 your position?

01:29:45.180 I mean, it's not realistic to assume that every woman is in my position.

01:29:51.080 And like, I'm very untraditional, clearly, but I do want a traditional relationship.

01:29:55.460 Make that make sense.

01:29:59.320 You're non-traditional, but you want a traditional relationship?

01:30:01.940 So if I didn't tell you what I did for work, I mean, you would have no idea, right?

01:30:07.020 What's the context of somebody meeting you?

01:30:09.180 Because otherwise, I feel like I'm a very traditional person.

01:30:13.860 There would be other indicators.

01:30:16.080 What are the other indicators?

01:30:17.840 Well, I mean, even if you didn't disclose, even if you did not disclose what you do for

01:30:23.100 work, for example, I mean, it could be something to do with your appearance.

01:30:26.580 It could be your degree of modesty, that sort of thing, which could make it, guide someone

01:30:32.840 in determining whether they view you as a traditional woman or not.

01:30:36.320 Do you think you haven't been able to attract a traditional man or traditional relationship

01:30:41.280 because of what you do for work, or why do you think you haven't been able to?

01:30:44.920 You guys engage there.

01:30:45.780 I'm not looking for a relationship right now, so I'm not, like, even trying to.

01:30:50.040 And, like, any man that's trying to talk to me.

01:30:51.080 But didn't you just say you do, hypothetically down the road, want a traditional relationship?

01:30:55.860 Yeah, down the road.

01:30:56.600 Do you think you're deserving, given your line of employment, of a traditional relationship?

01:31:01.100 Everybody is deserving of love.

01:31:03.360 No, I respect your standpoint.

01:31:04.720 Well, I think people can be accountable for their actions.

01:31:07.920 Accountable for their actions.

01:31:08.480 And aren't you a religious person?

01:31:10.020 Don't you believe that God is the person who would ultimately be holding her accountable?

01:31:14.940 Well, I think if you engage in a profession where you're constantly making men or whoever

01:31:19.240 engage in sinful actions such as lust and, frankly, contributing to the decline of marriage

01:31:24.860 in a lot of religious institutions and values in this country, then I would say you're not

01:31:29.220 necessarily an innocent bystander.

01:31:31.080 I agree God is the ultimate judge, but from an anecdotal level of just your experience,

01:31:35.320 I think if you're engaged in an industry that isn't really doing anything to promote values

01:31:40.120 that are good for a society or, frankly, for women, then I don't necessarily think that

01:31:45.200 you deserve to be, I'm not saying you specifically, but just people who engage in sinful actions,

01:31:49.220 who engage in that deserve to be, or not even deserve, I just don't think you would really

01:31:53.740 find a man who would bring to the table what you want, because any traditional man is not

01:31:58.780 going to put up with someone who has a past like yours.

01:32:01.340 I very much disagree.

01:32:02.600 So the last time I was on here, I respect your opinion, Michael Knowles, right, was on

01:32:06.960 here the last time, and we were going back and forth quite a bit, and he even talked

01:32:10.080 about a 10-year rager period where he went off the walls, him and his wife now, who he was

01:32:17.020 a high school sweetheart with, they broke up for 10 years, he went on a bender, he did

01:32:21.380 ungodly things, and then now he's back on his path.

01:32:27.880 I mean, he's now traditional, conservative, has that traditional woman, they have that traditional

01:32:34.300 relationship, and so I just don't think what I do now defines me.

01:32:39.880 Yeah, it's part of who I am, and they have to accept that, but.

01:32:42.040 Well, what he did, though, I think there is a difference there, right, having like a

01:32:46.160 decade of fun versus having videos of yourself having sexual relations with other men on

01:32:52.200 the internet, there's a little bit of a difference there.

01:32:54.120 Sure, he didn't disclose what he did, though.

01:32:55.700 I highly doubt Michael Knowles was filming porn.

01:32:58.180 We don't know.

01:32:59.200 You don't know that.

01:33:00.020 I'm fairly confident to say that there's no pornography, but still, I think that we're

01:33:04.360 missing the point.

01:33:04.500 But also, to that point, I think one of the issues with women who engage, and I don't

01:33:12.440 like the term sex work, but if you want to call it that, is that you take on, I think,

01:33:16.760 a very masculine interpretation of sexuality.

01:33:19.160 In other words, I think that Michael Knowles can probably, or whoever it is, a guy can get

01:33:23.840 away with having 10 years of fun, and it doesn't have as much of a negative ramification on

01:33:28.840 them, whereas female sexuality, it really makes it harder for you to, I think, pair bond

01:33:34.220 with your mate down the road when you have sex with a lot of people, or if you just view

01:33:39.180 sex as sort of commodified.

01:33:40.220 Yeah, I don't have sex with a lot of people.

01:33:42.480 I think that's a very valid point.

01:33:44.200 I think it's a valid point.

01:33:45.380 I just, it's not.

01:33:45.660 Well, also, too, I think my other issue, even taking the sex stuff out of it, like, for

01:33:51.480 example, you know, oh, say, if you had children, or would someone who used to do OnlyFans,

01:33:56.860 like, make a good wife, I think even the fact that there's, like I said, explicit content

01:34:01.360 of you on the internet, I also think, and again, I mean this in a respectful way, but

01:34:05.960 I think it speaks to people's character and morality in the sense that, again, I'm sure

01:34:12.140 you'll hit me with the you find doing OnlyFans really empowering, and we can have that discussion,

01:34:16.440 but I think it sort of shows that people prioritize short-term gain for short, or for just short-term

01:34:22.920 profit, like it's immediate gratification, because, again, I don't buy into the

01:34:26.840 narrative that if you join OnlyFans, you just start making six figures a month.

01:34:29.880 On average, you make $180 a month, and OnlyFans loves that that myth is perpetuated, but putting

01:34:35.100 that aside, I just think that it speaks to a woman's character that they would do that,

01:34:40.480 and I think that that, speaking of commitment, to me would make it think that someone who does

01:34:44.500 OnlyFans and is so willing and eager to sell their body for male validation or for what

01:34:48.560 would probably have a higher propensity to cheat, and frankly, I don't know if they would

01:34:53.040 make, from just looking at it objectively, from a mating perspective, necessarily a great

01:34:57.420 mom, because I think that, like I said, it's putting short-term gratification for money,

01:35:02.140 for whatever lifestyle you want, and not looking down the road.

01:35:05.400 I don't know if you want to have kids, but...

01:35:07.240 I do, yeah, and I don't think it's going to affect my children and my unborn children.

01:35:12.080 How can you say that, though?

01:35:13.560 I mean, it's a profession, regardless.

01:35:15.160 I worked in corporate before I did OnlyFans.

01:35:17.220 I did both at the same time, so like, at first, it was a secret.

01:35:20.540 I kept it a very big secret from everything, and then...

01:35:23.720 So if you had to keep it a secret, though, was that because it was bad?

01:35:26.980 Because I didn't want to get fired.

01:35:28.360 So why would they have fired you, though?

01:35:30.220 Because that's just how it is.

01:35:32.660 I still think, I mean, it's my body, so I can...

01:35:35.860 So my question to you girls that do OnlyFans and stuff like that, what's your exit plan?

01:35:41.060 Um, I had a question, so now my brain is scattering, sorry.

01:35:48.660 My exit plan out of all of this?

01:35:51.360 Just specifically getting out of sex work?

01:35:53.420 Um, I want to throw my own events.

01:35:55.080 I'm an event management major while I'm working on there.

01:35:58.540 But do you have, like, a timeline or, like, a...

01:36:02.260 Like a goal, like...

01:36:03.380 Like, I make X amount of money, now I can retire.

01:36:06.120 Or I have two years in, I'm done now.

01:36:08.580 Yes, yeah.

01:36:09.320 Are you guys going to pull the, like, Nala card and be like,

01:36:13.100 Oh, I forgive myself for what I did.

01:36:15.960 I'm repenting.

01:36:16.800 I'm, like, a new fan.

01:36:17.660 No, she still has her OnlyFans, though.

01:36:19.540 Wait, no, but, um, about the question.

01:36:22.160 You guys are both Christian, right?

01:36:24.700 Yeah, I am.

01:36:25.340 Okay, so I had...

01:36:26.660 Not super religious, actually.

01:36:27.960 I had Christians knock on my door the other day.

01:36:31.240 Maybe it's a sign.

01:36:32.500 Um, but they were just explaining to me, like, your guys' beliefs and everything.

01:36:36.440 So I was asking them about, like, okay, so he died for our sins, so they told me that means we came to this life already as sinners.

01:36:44.960 So we can do whatever we want as long as we believe in Jesus Christ, question mark, and God.

01:36:51.540 Because that's how they made it seem.

01:36:54.520 Because I was, like, I don't want to say the R word, but I was, like, so if I R word someone, I'm still going to heaven?

01:37:00.100 Mm-hmm.

01:37:01.380 So, the reason why we have free will, and the reason why there's so much death and destruction and evilness in this world, which is very unfortunate, is because we have free will.

01:37:12.220 And God wouldn't be a loving and gracious Father if he made us love him.

01:37:18.900 So the free will is, by choice, we get to choose to love him, or we get to choose not to.

01:37:24.000 Um, that's why there's death and destruction and chaos, but when it comes to intentionally making bad decisions, you can live your entire life and make intentionally really, really bad decisions.

01:37:36.620 But the turning point in Christianity specifically is acknowledging that you've made faults, acknowledging that you've hurt people, acknowledging your sins, and turning from it.

01:37:47.820 But, yeah, and then still, of course, like, praising and, like, being religious.

01:37:51.660 My opposition, though, to what you guys do is not really actually derived necessarily from religious stuff.

01:37:56.920 I think it's more that what you guys are doing is part of a myriad of ways that, whether it's big corporations, elites in this country, powerful globalist organizations want to destroy the nuclear family, want to destroy traditional gender roles, want to, frankly, destroy traditional relationships.

01:38:15.320 So I'm not couching it in, like, religious speak.

01:38:18.120 No, I think you look at life more as a physical, material matter way.

01:38:23.000 I do?

01:38:23.820 Yeah, because, like, you believe in heaven and everything, right?

01:38:28.020 Like, you go to heaven.

01:38:29.240 Yeah.

01:38:29.520 See, I believe in reincarnation.

01:38:31.640 So my body, right now, this body isn't going to come with me to the next life.

01:38:36.360 So whether I'm making money, however the fuck you guys care about, it doesn't matter, in my opinion.

01:38:42.880 But, sorry to interrupt you.

01:38:44.800 But I'm not even talking just about you.

01:38:46.420 I'm talking about the other people's lives that you're impacting.

01:38:49.020 Not you specifically, but with the work that OnlyFans creates.

01:38:52.840 Like, do you think OnlyFans is a net positive on society?

01:38:56.900 I think it's an inevitable part of society.

01:38:59.380 Men watch porn regardless, so I think if they're going to watch free porn, they might as well watch my porn.

01:39:03.060 I think everything happens for a reason.

01:39:05.240 Okay, Naomi.

01:39:07.160 Everything happens for a reason.

01:39:08.940 She asked like what I have to say.

01:39:10.720 If no offense, if I ask you if what you do is good for society, and within one second your comeback is, well, it's just going to happen.

01:39:18.940 That's not really a great argument for why it's good.

01:39:22.180 That's just sort of like a neutral wash, right?

01:39:24.560 I mean, so what's the difference between mainstream porn and OnlyFans to you, in your eyes, anything?

01:39:30.620 I have never consumed OnlyFans content or explicit content.

01:39:34.560 Are you scared of it?

01:39:36.080 I am scared of what you guys are doing to your bodies, your souls, and the men who watch your content.

01:39:40.940 So yes, I would say I am scared of it.

01:39:42.100 May I ask why you're scared of it?

01:39:44.000 Like, is there anything in your childhood that like...

01:39:46.800 No, I actually have wonderful parents who raised me, and I think that's precisely why I'm scared of it.

01:39:51.200 Have you been cheated on a lot?

01:39:53.040 Like, because usually people who are like scared of like things like that...

01:39:57.840 I don't...

01:39:58.400 Doc Venabili is donated $100.

01:40:01.640 Female promiscuity is a firm indicator of cluster B personality disorder.

01:40:06.940 A cluster B woman will not make a good partner or a good mother.

01:40:11.060 By extension, no healthy man will want to marry O.F.

01:40:16.020 I don't think the reason that I'm opposed to OnlyFans is because I think that that's why

01:40:21.740 men have cheated on me, if that's what you're saying.

01:40:25.020 No, yeah, I was just trying to pick your brain a little bit, but...

01:40:27.500 Feel free.

01:40:28.460 Yeah, no, because I like to see the root of why people are this way.

01:40:32.900 Is your reason why you do OnlyFans like, oh, well, someone's...

01:40:37.280 They're going to consume the content anyways.

01:40:38.840 I can't make a change, so I may as well do it.

01:40:40.720 That's not mine.

01:40:42.860 Not so much.

01:40:44.960 Why do you guys do it then?

01:40:46.540 I like genuinely enjoy it, to be honest.

01:40:48.700 So sorry.

01:40:49.400 And your point of you were raised by good parents, I totally respect that, and that's

01:40:54.900 your viewpoint on why you don't enjoy porn.

01:40:57.820 But I was raised by really good parents also, and I come from a good family, and they have

01:41:03.160 good morals at the end of the day.

01:41:04.280 Do they approve of what you do for work?

01:41:05.680 They support me because they're very open-minded, yeah.

01:41:10.200 So my question to you ladies is, if you genuinely think that what you do contributes positively

01:41:16.080 to society, let's just say that what you're doing, you're running a business, right?

01:41:21.660 If you had to create a mission statement, can you give me some character traits of what

01:41:25.320 your business consists of?

01:41:28.000 Would it be honesty, respect, loyalty?

01:41:32.020 Of course.

01:41:32.720 Give me some characteristics of the business that you run.

01:41:35.140 Loyalty, like you said, respect, commitment.

01:41:40.080 But don't just pare it off of what I'm saying.

01:41:42.540 Okay, I'm trying.

01:41:43.000 No, because I'm genuinely trying to understand because-

01:41:46.560 Commitment.

01:41:47.340 Because how can you tell if a man or woman is single?

01:41:49.880 How can you tell if you're not talking to someone that is already taken?

01:41:53.640 How can you tell?

01:41:55.040 But that's the-

01:41:55.640 But you can't.

01:41:56.120 That's the thing.

01:41:57.140 Companionship, though.

01:41:57.640 I would say companionship.

01:41:58.980 I'm very honest with me.

01:42:00.760 I don't have chatters, so it is me speaking.

01:42:03.160 Do you guys ever talk to them, though, one-on-one?

01:42:06.300 Yeah, and don't you think it's better to profit off of a man who's cheating on their wife?

01:42:11.820 No, I don't think it's-

01:42:12.880 If you're enabling.

01:42:13.920 What?

01:42:15.460 Interesting.

01:42:16.100 I don't feel that way.

01:42:17.480 I get it, but we all obviously have different views, spiritually, religiously, and I just-

01:42:26.560 Yes, but I think what you guys do, you play the laissez-faire, like, oh, I'm just doing

01:42:32.540 this, because it's fun and empowering, but it has a really, really negative effect on

01:42:36.300 society, and I'm just wondering if you're saying it's positive.

01:42:38.820 No, I do agree, because porn addiction is a very big thing, so, like, contributing.

01:42:42.960 I don't believe in porn addiction.

01:42:44.760 What, do you not believe in?

01:42:45.680 You don't believe in porn addiction?

01:42:46.860 It has, I mean, yeah, it hasn't scientifically been proven as a thing.

01:42:50.860 Gambling has, but porn hasn't.

01:42:53.480 I think porn addiction is-

01:42:55.220 Yeah, I know.

01:42:55.740 Even Billie Eilish made a song about it.

01:42:57.760 Well, we can pull up science if you want, I mean.

01:43:01.000 But I just, like, do you really want to be sitting there defending, being like, porn

01:43:04.180 addiction isn't a thing, and selling naked pictures of my body online is great.

01:43:09.220 You can tell me that all you want, but it hasn't been proven by science.

01:43:11.940 So, you think that, I mean-

01:43:13.420 You've got to trust the studies.

01:43:15.100 I'm just saying-

01:43:15.420 I mean, is religion proven by science?

01:43:17.460 Again, I am not some, like, Bible-thumping-

01:43:19.760 I'm just playing devil's advocate.

01:43:21.760 I actually have no harsh feelings to you.

01:43:22.760 Have you rooted my arguments in anything religious?

01:43:25.380 No, you're good at that.

01:43:26.080 No, it's just-

01:43:26.520 Yeah.

01:43:27.000 Question me.

01:43:27.460 That's not what I-

01:43:28.640 But I just, I think you guys, like I said, I said, can you point to one positive thing

01:43:33.500 that OnlyFans does for society?

01:43:37.300 Companionship.

01:43:37.840 I can chime in.

01:43:38.740 I don't do OnlyFans, but I can say I grew up when the internet was just getting started,

01:43:46.540 and I think for many girls, young girls, they can learn about themselves, learn about their

01:43:52.720 bodies.

01:43:53.780 I think that's disgusting, especially when you see how they've been pushing explicit content

01:43:57.620 on young girls.

01:43:58.460 Why do you think it's disgusting?

01:44:00.140 That means you're looking at them sexually.

01:44:01.960 That's kind of weird.

01:44:03.080 Not all OnlyFans-

01:44:03.780 She just said that porn showing-

01:44:05.780 No, I didn't say porn.

01:44:07.460 I didn't say porn.

01:44:08.480 That's inherently sexual.

01:44:09.240 Not all OnlyFans is completely explicit.

01:44:12.460 Some OnlyFans is very PG-thirty.

01:44:14.280 Wait, are you saying that young girls are going to OF to get sexual health education?

01:44:21.260 Some might.

01:44:21.960 What?

01:44:22.380 Some might.

01:44:23.180 That's absurd.

01:44:24.020 That's not what she said.

01:44:24.640 That's absurd.

01:44:25.380 Some might.

01:44:26.060 I don't-

01:44:26.480 Or some might grow up in such a religious home that they're afraid to explore themselves.

01:44:32.400 That is precisely my point.

01:44:34.580 And that OnlyFans creates a pathway and a pipeline to normalizing, commodifying your body, and viewing

01:44:41.500 sex through a very weird, very parasocial lens, that if that platform didn't exist, those

01:44:46.560 people would not have access to the platform.

01:44:48.180 Now, I'm sure all you sexually liberated, however you want to euphemize it, women would

01:44:51.960 say, oh, that's so great that young women can sit there.

01:44:54.160 And when they're 16 because they're evil Christian parents, they're like, don't have premarital

01:44:58.000 sex.

01:44:58.420 Oh, well, then they can go on with it.

01:44:59.440 I don't feel that way.

01:45:00.040 That's precisely the problem.

01:45:02.160 So let me ask you a question.

01:45:03.420 How did you learn about sex?

01:45:04.700 I had sex ed in my class or my school that did nothing like Christians.

01:45:10.300 So isn't the internet basically a huge conglomerate of sex ed and all of the different avenues

01:45:16.840 that one could educate themselves?

01:45:18.800 I'm not critiquing learning about sex.

01:45:20.660 My critique is very specific to OnlyFans in the context of what she said, which is that

01:45:26.360 OnlyFans, the one-liner on why the elevator pitch for OnlyFans is that it is, quote, great

01:45:31.640 for commitment, and I think that that is abjectly false.

01:45:35.340 Right.

01:45:35.540 Right?

01:45:35.820 No companionship.

01:45:36.600 People like to spend their time with me.

01:45:37.940 I don't know.

01:45:38.160 I'm not always naked on there.

01:45:39.740 I think that's a sort of a siren song.

01:45:43.300 I think it's a false flag in the sense that you're perpetuating this lie, this frankly

01:45:48.020 delusion in these guys' heads that they're in a relationship with you.

01:45:51.280 You're privately chatting with them, right?

01:45:53.340 You're giving them the girlfriend experience.

01:45:55.200 That's the distinguishing factor between OnlyFans and porn, but you're not ever actually giving

01:45:59.500 them a meaningful relationship.

01:46:00.600 You're just sort of stringing along the guy into thinking that they could potentially

01:46:05.320 have something with you, and frankly, that's probably why you sit there and say you aren't

01:46:08.260 seeing anyone, because that's a real critical part of your business.

01:46:11.340 Well, maybe that's better for him than nothing.

01:46:13.740 So let me bring up a point.

01:46:15.580 What about Twitch?

01:46:16.700 So a girl that's streaming on Twitch, she's not naked, and she's getting donations for

01:46:21.360 hanging out with people.

01:46:22.340 Then what are your thoughts on that?

01:46:24.280 Simps.

01:46:24.980 Yeah, I mean, but again, it's...

01:46:26.600 So how is that different if I'm not naked on OnlyFans on my life?

01:46:30.140 I mean, people who watch my show, they're not watching me because they're lonely.

01:46:33.320 They're watching because they want to watch political content.

01:46:35.780 No, actually, I'm a really good investigative reporter.

01:46:38.820 No, I'm sure you're very smart.

01:46:39.780 They don't watch, and I have been very careful to not have my job because of the way I look.

01:46:44.340 But frankly, what you just said right there, I think, is a perfect reflection of the OnlyFans

01:46:47.760 mindset.

01:46:48.120 I know you were half kidding when you said that, but that shows you that you've commodified

01:46:51.640 me into the reason that I have my job is because of how I look.

01:46:53.780 I'm not saying because of your...

01:46:54.200 I have my job because I'm actually extremely well-educated, and I'm a very good investigative

01:46:57.680 reporter.

01:46:58.140 But from the OnlyFans mindset, you would only think that I have my job because of the way

01:47:01.720 I look because that's all you're valued for.

01:47:03.540 I'm not...

01:47:03.780 I didn't say that about you.

01:47:04.960 Also, I want to flip that.

01:47:05.840 You're looking at us like that.

01:47:07.280 Well, because you guys are doing that to yourself.

01:47:08.640 No, I wasn't doing it to you.

01:47:11.480 Well, I'm going to look at you guys as people who commodify and exploit your bodies.

01:47:15.800 I do.

01:47:16.640 So the second you find out that we have OnlyFans, you're just like...

01:47:21.620 I think it speaks to your character.

01:47:24.040 I do.

01:47:24.660 I get it.

01:47:25.160 Don't you think...

01:47:25.640 I mean, I'm just like you probably think me working for Steve Bannon, who I don't know

01:47:28.580 your politics, but you think that speaks to my character.

01:47:30.800 I think what you choose your professionally speaks to your character, right?

01:47:34.360 That's not a judgmental...

01:47:35.640 I mean, I guess it's judgmental definitionally, but that's not a judgmental with a pejorative

01:47:39.520 connotation.

01:47:40.360 I'm just holding you guys accountable for your actions.

01:47:42.360 Just like if you guys don't like Trump, I'm sure you would hold me accountable for working

01:47:45.600 for arguably the most MAGA, most pro-Trump podcast in the media ecosystem, right?

01:47:51.480 Yeah.

01:47:51.640 So I'm holding you guys accountable for what you do, too.

01:47:54.100 I just think what you do is considerably worse for the country, for society writ large.

01:48:00.120 And I don't think you guys have really given me one actual reason as to why it's good.

01:48:05.060 I just want to talk...

01:48:06.520 Society.

01:48:08.960 Well, society is huge.

01:48:10.700 Christ is Lord donated $100.

01:48:13.660 Thank you, man.

01:48:14.020 Listen to me very carefully.

01:48:16.040 There is a reason why, for all of human history, for thousands of years, prostitution and selling

01:48:22.320 yourself has mostly been viewed as shameful.

01:48:25.520 Society is unraveling.

01:48:27.740 You say society is huge, but not with declining birth rates.

01:48:30.360 I just think you're too attached to physical and material items.

01:48:34.720 And I think you need to, like, touch gas and meditate.

01:48:38.700 Touch...

01:48:38.900 Wait, she...

01:48:39.900 Just...

01:48:40.240 I've got to comment on this.

01:48:41.280 Because you're just too attached to OnlyFans, girls.

01:48:44.180 What is love?

01:48:44.700 Wait, wait, hold on.

01:48:45.240 You said that she is...

01:48:46.760 You said Natalie is too attached to physical and material.

01:48:50.860 Yeah, because when you think about it...

01:48:52.520 But look at all the accessories you have.

01:48:55.240 Your job is physical and material.

01:48:56.620 Mine is intellectual and emotional.

01:48:58.720 I know it is.

01:48:59.640 You sell your body.

01:49:00.540 I've never sold anything physical to my clothes in my life.

01:49:01.860 I know, but I believe that my soul is going to reincarnate to the next life.

01:49:06.260 Can you reincarnate into a duck?

01:49:09.040 Yes.

01:49:09.720 And my physical...

01:49:10.720 You've got a duck coming up in your next life.

01:49:12.140 My physical body is not coming with me to the next life.

01:49:14.920 That's what I believe in.

01:49:15.040 Physical body not coming with you?

01:49:16.380 My body...

01:49:17.140 No, just my soul.

01:49:18.940 Word.

01:49:19.640 Mm-hmm.

01:49:20.120 All right, here.

01:49:20.740 Hold on.

01:49:20.800 I, like, respect all your points you're making.

01:49:22.440 I just disagree.

01:49:23.020 And you disagree with me.

01:49:24.240 I disagree with you.

01:49:24.840 And that's why we're here.

01:49:26.420 Yeah.

01:49:27.060 But I just...

01:49:27.720 I still don't think you guys have given, like, any defense of why OnlyFans is good.

01:49:31.140 That was my defense.

01:49:31.780 Maybe they don't need to defend themselves.

01:49:33.160 That was my defense.

01:49:33.920 I do think I...

01:49:35.120 You can use whatever word you want instead of defend, but I do...

01:49:38.080 Like, I can say what I do for work, I'm very proud to wake up every day and have the job

01:49:41.580 I do.

01:49:41.820 I think it's a net positive for society.

01:49:43.980 Can you guys say that?

01:49:45.880 I mean, for my subscribers, yeah, I impact their life in a positive way.

01:49:49.700 Wait.

01:49:49.920 Just curious.

01:49:50.420 How?

01:49:51.440 Yeah.

01:49:51.760 I already said, companionship.

01:49:53.700 And I'm not selling a false girlfriend thing.

01:49:55.820 It's the same as Twitch.

01:49:56.160 But it is.

01:49:56.540 So you're their girlfriend?

01:49:57.540 Wait.

01:49:57.720 I thought you were single.

01:49:59.560 Oh, so you are...

01:50:00.560 You're dating multiple men.

01:50:03.440 That would be...

01:50:04.120 Yeah.

01:50:04.460 That would be too much.

01:50:05.440 No, you are dating multiple...

01:50:06.720 I'm not selling a girlfriend experience, but I compared it to Twitch already.

01:50:11.020 Wait.

01:50:11.300 But you said you're companionship.

01:50:13.040 Romantic companionship.

01:50:14.280 No, like, I am companionship to my subs.

01:50:17.380 Romantically?

01:50:18.940 No.

01:50:19.340 So what is...

01:50:20.460 They're not romantically interested in you?

01:50:22.980 Well...

01:50:23.340 Oh, they're romantically...

01:50:24.480 Of course they are.

01:50:24.880 But you're not in them.

01:50:25.960 Well, I'm not dating any of them.

01:50:28.160 What is that?

01:50:29.460 But then how is it...

01:50:30.680 It's...

01:50:30.960 But it's not actual companionship.

01:50:33.560 It doesn't have to be romantic companionship.

01:50:35.740 It doesn't have to be romantic to be companionship.

01:50:37.760 But my question I'm posing to you now is, do you think all you're good for is companionship?

01:50:43.120 Because that's all that you've said in terms of quality that you bring to society.

01:50:47.440 Do you actually...

01:50:48.220 No, I'm not coming for you.

01:50:50.240 That's all I bring to society.

01:50:50.620 No, no, I'm not coming for you.

01:50:51.600 You're saying what's one positive thing that...

01:50:52.880 No, no, no.

01:50:53.120 But I think you sell yourself short when you do OnlyFans.

01:50:55.380 You do.

01:50:55.960 I mean, okay, so before I did this, I was in tech.

01:50:58.800 So what did that do for society?

01:51:00.760 That was...

01:51:01.400 More than what you're doing now, respectfully.

01:51:03.420 I sold tech.

01:51:03.860 We could definitely have a debate.

01:51:05.820 Shit, if a woman's going to school, should they become, like, a mainstream media journalist

01:51:08.900 or an OnlyFans creator, which is worse.

01:51:10.640 But I don't know.

01:51:13.840 I just think you're basically profiting off of, like, the lowest common denominator, which

01:51:19.380 is your body and the fact that you have boobs and a vagina that everyone on this platform

01:51:25.340 has.

01:51:26.340 Barely?

01:51:26.720 Did you say barely?

01:51:27.820 Yeah.

01:51:28.880 Oh, okay, because...

01:51:30.020 I just think it's sort of like...

01:51:31.660 You know, there's guys who like smaller breasts.

01:51:35.420 Grace War Room donated $100.

01:51:38.340 We have to have Grace.

01:51:38.820 Natalie is wifey material.

01:51:40.540 Let's do it.

01:51:41.500 Yo, Grace, very much appreciate your TTS.

01:51:43.780 Appreciate it.

01:51:44.320 Let me try to shift things here a little bit.

01:51:46.420 Wait, Naomi, you said you were involved in tech sales.

01:51:49.540 Yeah.

01:51:49.680 In your notes, you said you're the ex-director of sales op.

01:51:52.900 Mm-hmm.

01:51:53.300 And then you also said you were an ex-D1 cheerleader.

01:51:56.080 Mm-hmm.

01:51:57.880 University of Arizona.

01:51:59.460 Yep.

01:52:00.180 Or ASU.

01:52:01.660 No.

01:52:02.360 Not ASU?

01:52:03.200 Okay.

01:52:03.940 Were you a flyer?

01:52:05.100 Yeah, we were all flyers.

01:52:06.180 You?

01:52:06.900 How tall are you?

01:52:07.680 5'6".

01:52:08.420 You're a little tall to be a flyer, no offense.

01:52:11.600 How do I even know what that is?

01:52:13.360 Yeah, what?

01:52:14.320 Can you show...

01:52:15.220 You like a small brain.

01:52:16.380 Let's lighten things up a little bit.

01:52:18.180 Okay.

01:52:18.320 Naomi, why don't you show us a cheer?

01:52:21.100 A cheer?

01:52:22.180 A cheer.

01:52:23.460 You got it for it, you got it.

01:52:24.520 James Palmer donated $100.

01:52:27.640 Brian, please give Gustav access to the soundboard in your absence.

01:52:32.420 Much love from the UK.

01:52:34.080 Yo, James Palmer, really appreciate it.

01:52:35.700 Thank you, uh, appreciate it.

01:52:37.980 Thank you for the support from across the pond.

01:52:39.980 Um, a little cheer?

01:52:41.740 Let's see a little cheer.

01:52:42.520 For real, for real?

01:52:43.480 For realsies.

01:52:44.560 I just show off the abs?

01:52:45.800 Wait, what?

01:52:46.560 No, I was not asking for that, but...

01:52:48.840 Oh, what were you asking for?

01:52:51.340 Well, you were the one who said, I gotta show off the ass.

01:52:54.180 Well, abs.

01:52:55.340 Oh, I thought you said ass.

01:52:56.500 I was like, alright, family show here.

01:52:59.320 Not really.

01:52:59.580 It's not a family show.

01:53:00.560 It's not a family show.

01:53:02.780 Yeah, I was gonna ask about that.

01:53:04.820 Do what you gotta do.

01:53:06.040 It's like you're actually being serious?

01:53:07.240 Yeah, do a little cheer.

01:53:08.160 Oh, okay.

01:53:08.560 Let's see it.

01:53:10.320 Alright, there it is.

01:53:11.560 Let's see how much space it is.

01:53:12.760 Yay!

01:53:14.240 That's the banging body that you're talking about.

01:53:16.240 Hey, the V, the V, the V, the V.

01:53:17.720 Okay, alright, calm down.

01:53:17.920 I've been working out.

01:53:18.640 Calm down, okay.

01:53:20.280 She bad, she bad.

01:53:22.000 What should we do?

01:53:23.080 Oh, no, you're the cheerleader.

01:53:24.660 D1.

01:53:25.100 I haven't cheered in a lot of years.

01:53:26.640 Y-M-C-A.

01:53:28.380 Okay, alright.

01:53:30.020 L-A-R-I-C-L-N-A-S-O.

01:53:34.900 There you go, Arizona.

01:53:36.420 Yay!

01:53:38.860 Yay!

01:53:42.540 Brian.

01:53:43.180 Sorry.

01:53:43.680 Brian, you loved it.

01:53:44.500 Brian's just naturally a hater.

01:53:46.800 He was born a hater.

01:53:48.320 Okay, that's cool.

01:53:50.180 Yeah, major hater.

01:53:51.360 Okay, let me get a couple of the chats caught up here.

01:53:53.640 We have Canada first.

01:53:57.180 Canada won SD, donated 100 Canadian dollars.

01:54:01.260 Brian, I love you, but save chat the torture of listening to these idiots.

01:54:05.400 Please boot them all off the panel.

01:54:07.100 No, you've got to be nice.

01:54:09.760 We're not going to boot all of them off the panel,

01:54:11.780 but it's still early on in the night.

01:54:14.820 It would be like no debate, though, if we were on and you were on.

01:54:18.500 It would be like, oh, yeah, I agree to everything.

01:54:21.900 It wouldn't be fun.

01:54:23.460 I don't think anybody here is upset by any of the disagreement that's gone on.

01:54:28.520 Oh, sorry.

01:54:29.560 Great storm and donated $100.

01:54:31.700 Sorry, okay.

01:54:32.740 I don't know if – thank you, Grace.

01:54:34.260 Didn't mean to re-trigger that.

01:54:35.760 We have Natalia here.

01:54:37.780 It might take a moment to trigger – okay, hold on.

01:54:40.040 And while we're doing that, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:54:43.500 Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

01:54:45.820 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

01:54:47.420 Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

01:54:49.900 Also, if you guys are watching over on Twitch, is the streaming quality okay?

01:54:52.740 Our last stream, we got reports.

01:54:54.520 It was terrible.

01:54:55.240 I very much apologize for that.

01:54:57.160 Yo, Lovov, thank you for the follow.

01:54:59.820 Night, thank you for the follow.

01:55:00.780 John, thank you for the follow.

01:55:01.640 Appreciate it.

01:55:02.620 Natalia, donate.

01:55:03.860 Natalie, you talk negative about OF Girls.

01:55:05.960 You have a plethora of cleavage and short skirts.

01:55:08.960 Photos on your IG.

01:55:10.180 Net positive for society.

01:55:11.700 I stand by everything I have on social media.

01:55:15.540 That's fair.

01:55:17.480 Wait, what did that just say?

01:55:20.360 Repeat that.

01:55:21.580 It was on the screen and I just read it.

01:55:23.740 It's fine.

01:55:24.280 It's fine.

01:55:24.560 It's fine.

01:55:24.760 It's fair.

01:55:25.300 I don't think –

01:55:26.020 Can I have to be like super modest in order to be conservative?

01:55:29.800 No, I'm not –

01:55:30.220 Not that I have to defend myself.

01:55:32.680 I stand by everything I posted.

01:55:34.120 But I think there is something sort of interesting in that I don't think there's anything wrong

01:55:40.020 with women like dressing for – to look nice, right?

01:55:44.760 Dressing to attract – like when you go out, right?

01:55:46.980 You're not going to go out in like a burka, like, right?

01:55:49.520 And – but I think that where it sort of starts to get that slippery slope and where I think

01:55:54.340 femininity does sort of start to get a little, I think, just diluted and I think it can start

01:56:01.280 to look – get trashy, conflated as the OnlyFans, the porn culture, the just excessive kind

01:56:07.700 of commodification of women's bodies.

01:56:10.740 I think that's where it starts to get a little interesting and where you change culture.

01:56:14.580 And also, too, like, it goes back to my main point with you guys.

01:56:18.100 All you do – and I don't mean this disparagingly – but, like, all you do is post pictures

01:56:23.640 of yourselves naked on the internet.

01:56:25.900 If I'm going to post a picture, like, yeah, I can't help.

01:56:28.720 I have boobs.

01:56:29.680 But I also graduated from one of the top universities in this country.

01:56:34.520 I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party because of my investigative reporting.

01:56:38.220 I'm cited by Congress.

01:56:39.440 I know, right?

01:56:40.000 How did you get sanctioned?

01:56:41.580 A lot of my work had to do with how they were infiltrating this country.

01:56:45.720 Wait, is this, like, a by-proxy thing?

01:56:47.520 Am I – are they going to come after me now?

01:56:49.620 No, no, no, no, no.

01:56:50.600 By-proxy.

01:56:50.760 Well, I – you don't ever let me talk about China on here, so you're good.

01:56:54.520 I wonder what dating in China is like.

01:56:57.120 But, like, for only –

01:56:57.780 Would you date a member of the CCP?

01:57:00.260 Would you date a member of the CCP?

01:57:03.420 Not all OnlyFans girls are naked.

01:57:04.480 What are the pros and cons of it?

01:57:06.140 Are naked.

01:57:06.560 That's what I want to know.

01:57:07.800 It would be the only pro.

01:57:08.940 Con.

01:57:09.060 Does she have a large – never mind.

01:57:12.680 Not all OnlyFans girls are naked.

01:57:15.920 Like, there's some just bikini models.

01:57:17.520 Okay, but that's, like, a pretty –

01:57:18.540 Well, no, a lot to bikini.

01:57:20.280 I do want to move things on a little bit.

01:57:21.940 So, wait.

01:57:22.040 I have a question, though, really quick.

01:57:22.920 So, why are you –

01:57:24.140 We've lingered too long on the OF.

01:57:25.120 I have no bikini pictures anymore.

01:57:26.580 Have you ever taken bikini pictures for yourself?

01:57:29.160 I have never taken bikini pictures.

01:57:31.000 You will never be able to find –

01:57:32.640 Okay, can you kindly –

01:57:33.320 Can you stop interrupting?

01:57:34.220 Have you ever taken them for yourself?

01:57:36.700 I mean, I've been in bikinis and group photos, but I've never taken, like, provocative bikini pictures.

01:57:41.140 You never just felt hot and you just, like, wanted to take a picture of yourself?

01:57:43.840 I have.

01:57:44.060 I just find validation more than the physical stuff.

01:57:47.440 I would rather – I feel very validated and successful after I finish hosting an episode of War Room.

01:57:52.760 So, like, that is a much better, more meaningful form of validation than being, like, oh, I have boobs.

01:57:59.500 So, just, like, every other woman.

01:58:01.540 Mm-hmm.

01:58:02.700 Okay.

01:58:04.220 Yep.

01:58:06.300 That was a valid question.

01:58:07.780 Crickets.

01:58:08.340 I just wonder, like, in your own time that you don't post –

01:58:10.680 In my own time, I don't think –

01:58:11.840 If you ever just are feeling yourself, you know?

01:58:14.260 And that's okay.

01:58:15.380 Cat fight.

01:58:17.140 Is that a cat fight?

01:58:18.180 I don't think –

01:58:18.860 I know.

01:58:19.200 I didn't think so at all.

01:58:20.260 I was just curious.

01:58:20.940 I just don't.

01:58:21.560 A little bit.

01:58:21.760 Because I know you don't post it, and that's totally fine.

01:58:24.560 But I was just curious.

01:58:25.460 Do you keep it personal?

01:58:27.020 No, I don't.

01:58:27.980 My camera roll is not just a bunch of, like, weird provocation pictures of myself.

01:58:32.680 Would it be weird, though, or, like, would you – I don't know.

01:58:36.700 Actually, never mind.

01:58:37.280 I don't know how to word that question.

01:58:37.940 I just – for me, Val – and, again, maybe you guys are more into and uncomfortable with, like, sexuality and bodies and stuff.

01:58:43.700 I grew up in, like, a sexually comfortable family, so it was never, like –

01:58:46.880 For me, like, intellectualism, that kind of stuff was, like, hard work, work at, like –

01:58:52.780 I mean, that, to me, is that.

01:58:53.980 I mean, they're not intellectuals.

01:58:55.100 Not history, but I'm smart.

01:58:56.880 Well, no offense, but their answers to the World War I and World War II question would –

01:59:00.220 But there's a lot –

01:59:01.360 That's just history.

01:59:01.980 Everybody said I was a science major.

01:59:03.480 There's a lot of different destinations of intellectual.

01:59:04.340 That's just history.

01:59:05.400 There's a lot of other topics that somebody can be intellectual.

01:59:08.140 I mean, I brought up science.

01:59:09.720 I kind of debunked everything.

01:59:11.800 Guys, one person speaking at a time, please.

01:59:14.060 Discrunkled Care Bear donated $100.

01:59:15.960 Intellectual does not –

01:59:16.840 Stop.

01:59:17.140 Posting pics on the internet is not that difficult.

01:59:20.160 I have had more hard work this last week in the army than an OF model has.

01:59:24.720 Stop trying to make it seem like S-work is real work.

01:59:28.140 Beautiful.

01:59:28.520 I mean, I didn't say that they necessarily weren't intellectual.

01:59:31.900 What I was saying is I prefer to derive my validation from intellectual pursuits as opposed to –

01:59:37.840 I'm sure if I started an OnlyFans, anyone could do – you have an internet connection.

01:59:41.820 But for me, that's just not where I get a lot of validation from.

01:59:45.480 Yeah, I agree.

01:59:45.640 But my pushback is you don't know what they do in their personal time.

01:59:48.520 I'm not saying they're not intellectual.

01:59:49.840 They could read for a living.

01:59:51.740 They could do any number of –

01:59:53.000 I mean, I do read for a living that you don't know about.

01:59:54.360 I think just your only –

01:59:55.960 Hold on, hold on.

01:59:56.080 I'm always trying to be the devil's advocate.

01:59:57.820 Okay, so Natalie, in response to that, is your position their occupational endeavor is not an intellectual one?

02:00:05.020 Is that your position – is that what you're saying?

02:00:06.520 I think that's pretty obvious, yeah.

02:00:09.400 Okay.

02:00:09.740 How is posting pictures of your boobs and vagina intellectual?

02:00:12.760 Well, that's in response to what you're asking, correct?

02:00:15.040 That's not intellectual.

02:00:16.500 I think that's the criticism that she's making.

02:00:18.200 Yeah, I can see both of those.

02:00:18.720 In the same way that somebody who –

02:00:21.100 And I would go a step further.

02:00:22.480 You know, I always go back to this, but I think it's also very anti-intellectual in the sense that you're helping to, frankly, destroy this country by ruining nuclear families.

02:00:33.900 Candid guide donated $100.

02:00:35.320 Did you hear that, Naomi?

02:00:36.300 You're ruining the country.

02:00:38.000 If you could, would you come a member of the CCP into a romantic relationship for purposes of investigative reporting to break her story for the war room?

02:00:46.940 You know, it's actually funny.

02:00:48.520 I – okay, I won't fully nerd out, but when I was in college, I went to a school where there was a lot of foreign students there, and there's this thing called the Chinese Students and Scholars Association, which is basically, like, their foreign spy network that they have on college campuses.

02:01:01.480 And I would have random Chinese students who were, like, born in mainland China reach out to me all the time trying to, like, hang out.

02:01:08.820 And I'm sure you could say, oh, they just wanted to be friends.

02:01:10.780 But as someone who has studied their patterns of influence operations, it was not that.

02:01:14.580 So I've had some interesting stuff.

02:01:16.800 I've had stalkers.

02:01:17.680 I've had the whole gamut.

02:01:19.940 So, no.

02:01:21.900 Blank addiction has plenty of scientific support.

02:01:24.420 Adams, Carnes, authors, 1999, hypersexual disorder and DSM, same addictive power as cocaine.

02:01:30.680 There you go, science major.

02:01:32.300 Okay, I'll look into that.

02:01:33.540 Look into it.

02:01:34.700 I'm pretty sure the last time I did look into it, it wasn't recognized by the DSM.

02:01:39.100 Anything can be addictive, though.

02:01:40.460 We're switching gears here.

02:01:41.520 We're going to switch gears here.

02:01:42.280 Every time we switch gears, when it comes to brain scans.

02:01:44.940 Here, we're going back to the single thing.

02:01:46.960 That's what happened last time.

02:01:47.500 Cool.

02:01:47.880 Cool story, bro.

02:01:49.180 You're single.

02:01:52.060 There's no one in my picture.

02:01:53.740 You said you've been single for three years now.

02:01:56.640 Yeah.

02:01:57.540 You've not dated any guys in three years?

02:02:00.180 I've dabbled.

02:02:01.120 You've dabbled?

02:02:01.920 Have you had hookups?

02:02:03.520 Yeah.

02:02:05.980 Some.

02:02:06.620 Are you currently...

02:02:07.820 They weren't successful.

02:02:08.640 Is there...

02:02:09.100 They weren't successful?

02:02:09.760 There's nobody in my life right now.

02:02:10.660 Like, they couldn't get it up, or...

02:02:12.900 No.

02:02:13.980 That wasn't the issue.

02:02:14.800 Oh, that wasn't...

02:02:15.320 Okay.

02:02:15.680 I just...

02:02:16.160 You said the hookups weren't successful, so I was just...

02:02:18.040 I just mean they didn't turn into, like, a real relationship.

02:02:20.560 Because you didn't want it?

02:02:21.580 They didn't want it?

02:02:23.960 Sometimes me, sometimes them.

02:02:25.860 Okay.

02:02:26.320 We're talking three years.

02:02:27.140 It's been a lot of different situations.

02:02:28.540 What's the...

02:02:28.960 So for the three years you've been single, like, what's the longest period of time that you've

02:02:33.300 dated a guy?

02:02:33.900 Um...

02:02:35.420 A month, two months, three months?

02:02:38.220 Like, eight months.

02:02:40.940 And that...

02:02:41.580 But that was never a boyfriend?

02:02:44.000 Not technically, no.

02:02:45.140 What was that?

02:02:46.140 It was just, like, a casual...

02:02:46.700 I guess it was a situationship.

02:02:48.540 Situationship?

02:02:48.980 Like, it was pretty much everything that would be in a relationship without the title.

02:02:53.020 Okay.

02:02:54.280 All right.

02:02:55.240 What about you?

02:02:56.540 What's the question?

02:02:57.540 So you've been single for one year.

02:02:59.080 Mm-hmm.

02:02:59.400 There's no guys in the picture right now, nothing, no prospects, zilch, nothing?

02:03:03.580 Um, I mean, I've definitely gone on dates and stuff, but none of them have really been,

02:03:07.860 like, successful.

02:03:08.820 Plus, I don't...

02:03:09.660 I don't think I'm looking to be in a relationship at the moment, because I am moving, so...

02:03:15.000 And I've done long distance, and I am not interested in doing it right now.

02:03:18.560 I think I could do it later.

02:03:20.120 Okay.

02:03:20.380 But, yeah.

02:03:21.840 I mean, we talked a little bit about your situation.

02:03:24.180 You're in a friends with benefits for one month.

02:03:26.260 You were married for 18 years, but your husband had a romantic interest in men, so that ended.

02:03:33.480 Good times.

02:03:34.160 We already talked about that, though, but just recapping there.

02:03:36.500 What about you?

02:03:37.820 You are single for nine months.

02:03:39.460 No, no hunks in the picture?

02:03:43.540 No.

02:03:44.320 I, I kind of said a little earlier, I, so I'm not a single mom.

02:03:51.000 My co-parent, and I, as a single parent, it's hard to juggle having a child, working full-time,

02:03:59.960 and then finding time to date, and my priority, especially since my daughter is young, has been

02:04:06.440 her, and just making sure she, you know, has both feet on the ground.

02:04:11.080 And so, my last actual, really long-term relationship was before she was born, and then I had, I was

02:04:21.640 seeing somebody for maybe a month, last summer, and that's been it.

02:04:29.000 You said in your pre-show notes here that you, you're single, and you haven't been in a serious

02:04:34.560 relationship for seven years.

02:04:36.660 It's six, or me, yeah, it's before my daughter was born, so about seven, yeah.

02:04:40.900 But you did have something nine months ago.

02:04:43.320 Yeah, just very briefly.

02:04:44.540 You said you've dated a bit, and you had a few flings during this time, the seven years, six years.

02:04:49.840 Yeah, like, I've gone on a few dates, three or four, yeah.

02:04:55.520 Okay, and we have some other notes from you, but we'll get into that a little bit later on.

02:05:03.280 What about you?

02:05:05.300 Any, any tings in the, anything?

02:05:07.800 No, I'm not looking to date right now.

02:05:10.000 I'm actually really happy and really enjoying my singleness.

02:05:12.880 I used to be the girl that went from relationship to relationship to, even if I wasn't even in a

02:05:17.420 committed relationship, there would always be someone, you know, next, and I didn't realize

02:05:21.760 how damaging that was until my frontal lobe developed, and I actually feel and get to experience

02:05:30.120 as an adult the impacts of my decade of mistakes.

02:05:35.180 All right.

02:05:35.920 Natalie, what about you?

02:05:38.220 Why am I single?

02:05:39.720 Oh, well, no, you actually, you, you said that there is currently a, there's, well, you said

02:05:44.680 there's a guy.

02:05:45.080 On the Sunday show, it would have been a different answer.

02:05:47.360 Oh, this is, okay, this is new, all right.

02:05:49.500 Well, you said there's a guy who's currently in the picture a little bit, so, okay.

02:05:53.160 Who here has ever had a roster where you've dated multiple people at the same time?

02:05:58.040 Anybody?

02:05:59.120 Well, isn't that what dating is, though?

02:06:01.340 Like, you go out on dates with multiple people?

02:06:04.300 Or do you mean, like, sleeping with multiple people?

02:06:06.940 Well, yeah, it depends on how you define it, but has anybody here ever, like, been sleeping

02:06:11.720 with more than one person at the same time?

02:06:15.480 I have, yeah.

02:06:16.940 You have?

02:06:17.820 Yeah.

02:06:18.260 What's the most?

02:06:20.080 It was just two.

02:06:21.040 Two guys?

02:06:21.340 And it was, it was after I found out that my five-year was cheating on me, because I still

02:06:27.460 lived in the house.

02:06:28.200 The feeder guy?

02:06:29.000 Yeah.

02:06:29.200 The guy who was trying to get you fat?

02:06:30.580 Yeah.

02:06:30.980 And who likes obese women?

02:06:31.940 Yeah.

02:06:32.220 That guy?

02:06:32.720 Yeah, it was definitely, like, revenge sex, and then.

02:06:35.180 Oh, revenge sex.

02:06:36.660 Okay.

02:06:37.240 Anybody else?

02:06:38.420 Two guys?

02:06:39.420 Sleeping with two guys at the same time?

02:06:41.440 Come on.

02:06:42.240 I know some of you have.

02:06:44.080 Not two guys.

02:06:45.100 Is it you?

02:06:46.660 Oh, do you capture?

02:06:47.480 I'll say, I'll say I have, for sure.

02:06:50.220 More than two, three, four?

02:06:52.420 Yeah, like, three people.

02:06:53.820 Three at the same time?

02:06:54.460 I wouldn't say it's, like, all, like, directly at the same exact time.

02:06:58.000 Just kind of, like, I don't know.

02:07:00.720 Well, not, maybe there's a date.

02:07:02.580 I've gone on, like, dates with people, and then, yeah.

02:07:04.480 Um, we've had intercourse.

02:07:08.300 Had carnal knowledge.

02:07:10.260 Okay.

02:07:11.620 Uh, all right.

02:07:12.820 What about, what about you?

02:07:14.860 Multiple guys at the same time, ever?

02:07:16.880 Back in the, you know, when you were 18, 19, 20, 21?

02:07:20.000 Uh, not really.

02:07:22.740 No?

02:07:23.040 Okay.

02:07:23.400 What about any rosters?

02:07:24.860 You had a roster?

02:07:26.140 No?

02:07:26.520 Come on.

02:07:26.780 I think she's, I think.

02:07:28.820 A liar?

02:07:29.900 No, I think, uh, you know.

02:07:31.820 I think you got Riz.

02:07:32.900 I think you got Game.

02:07:34.200 So I feel like you got tons of bitches.

02:07:36.220 Tons of Game.

02:07:37.340 You got, you got a lot of bitches, right?

02:07:39.240 I think I've had options.

02:07:40.700 I think we've all had options.

02:07:43.000 Huh.

02:07:43.600 And there's...

02:07:44.020 Disgruntled Care Bear donated $100.

02:07:47.540 Dating is meant to get to know the person one at a time.

02:07:50.840 Concur.

02:07:51.160 If you have to have a roster when you date, you are only looking to siphon resources from

02:07:56.120 men or sleeping around, and we're never really into it.

02:07:59.940 I agree.

02:08:01.100 Based?

02:08:01.900 Based.

02:08:02.640 So, only one guy at a time, ever?

02:08:07.240 I guess.

02:08:08.160 I mean...

02:08:08.600 No roster?

02:08:09.540 I've dabbled.

02:08:10.160 A roster?

02:08:11.180 I've dabbled.

02:08:13.060 I've never had a roster.

02:08:14.380 Five guys?

02:08:15.660 The restaurant chain?

02:08:17.740 The restaurant chain?

02:08:18.980 No.

02:08:19.000 Their prices have just gone.

02:08:20.380 We're dick.

02:08:21.020 The price is at five, guys.

02:08:22.660 Absurd.

02:08:23.600 Sorry, I've got really, really care about the prices.

02:08:26.060 I like the Cajun price, yes.

02:08:28.820 Naomi, which is what backwards?

02:08:32.560 I moan.

02:08:33.360 Good job.

02:08:36.800 You ever had...

02:08:38.160 I'm a relationship, girly.

02:08:39.560 I told you this last time.

02:08:41.780 I am.

02:08:43.540 But no, I don't like...

02:08:44.980 I think naturally...

02:08:46.360 I know you can say I'm lying all you want, but naturally, when a girl does like a guy,

02:08:50.880 she'll just like want to spend time with that one guy.

02:08:53.480 But if you're just like casually hooking up with people, like that's different.

02:08:57.740 I mean, I don't really do that anyways.

02:08:58.920 I know people don't believe me, but like, whatever.

02:09:00.980 If you don't believe me, you don't believe me.

02:09:02.340 Roster, though?

02:09:03.240 But do I like have a roster?

02:09:05.100 Have you ever had a roster?

02:09:07.040 Not of people I was having sex with, but people that I was just like text.

02:09:09.860 Like dating, dating multiple guys.

02:09:12.140 No, that's a lot of energy and effort.

02:09:13.720 What about you?

02:09:15.000 I agreed with what she was saying.

02:09:16.980 I mean, there's times when you're not looking for a relationship and you're casually hooking

02:09:20.360 up with multiple people at the same time.

02:09:22.380 Okay.

02:09:23.360 So you...

02:09:25.160 What are we talking here?

02:09:27.280 Two?

02:09:28.080 Three?

02:09:28.400 Do you have a roster or not?

02:09:29.320 Four?

02:09:29.980 I don't have a roster, but there's been times...

02:09:32.140 No, not currently, like in the past.

02:09:34.000 Yeah.

02:09:34.520 Two, three people.

02:09:34.840 Like you'd be dating more.

02:09:36.280 So I'm curious about, or I'll have you answer, then I have a follow-up question.

02:09:39.800 Go ahead.

02:09:40.640 Oh, no.

02:09:42.060 Never?

02:09:42.640 Never.

02:09:42.840 At the same time?

02:09:43.620 No crossover?

02:09:44.440 No.

02:09:44.860 Okay.

02:09:45.620 For those of you, have you ever...

02:09:47.960 Because I know sometimes there's this period, obviously, and this is sort of somewhat segues

02:09:52.920 into what we've discussed previously on the show about people not being properly single

02:09:57.820 when they're meeting somebody new.

02:09:59.280 Have you ever been, like, hooking up with a guy, but dating other...

02:10:07.200 Like, you'll go on...

02:10:08.460 You'll be hooking up with a guy.

02:10:10.000 Maybe he's not your boyfriend, right?

02:10:11.680 Obviously.

02:10:12.320 But, you know, it's maybe once a week, whatever.

02:10:15.580 Casual.

02:10:16.480 But you're seeing...

02:10:17.920 You'll see other guys.

02:10:18.820 You'll go on dates with other men.

02:10:20.340 Have you ever had that?

02:10:21.200 And do you make those guys wait for sex, starting with you?

02:10:27.160 No.

02:10:29.340 Okay.

02:10:29.880 How many questions?

02:10:32.520 Yeah, I mean, there's been times I've been going on dates with people, but also casually

02:10:36.760 seeing other people.

02:10:38.220 Okay.

02:10:38.980 I don't really go on dates with people in general, and I don't like hooking up with a lot of people,

02:10:43.480 so it's a no.

02:10:44.660 It's about that.

02:10:45.640 No.

02:10:47.500 I agree with what Emma said.

02:10:48.500 Do your eyes just naturally squint?

02:10:50.700 Yeah.

02:10:51.200 Yeah, she's blind.

02:10:52.200 Oh, is that...

02:10:53.120 My contact is really dry.

02:10:54.780 You've been, like, death-staring me the entire show?

02:10:57.100 I wasn't sure if I, like, pissed you off or something.

02:10:59.420 I just can't see.

02:11:00.840 I was like, god damn, she's giving me the stink eye or something.

02:11:03.920 Okay.

02:11:04.620 I agree with Emmy.

02:11:05.680 I've, like, I've definitely, like, have been hooking up with people and then, like, also

02:11:09.600 going on, like, dates with other people.

02:11:11.380 Okay.

02:11:12.620 Yes.

02:11:13.200 Okay.

02:11:14.080 No, just one person at a time.

02:11:16.200 No.

02:11:17.080 Yeah, I don't believe in hookup culture.

02:11:19.100 Oh, okay.

02:11:19.680 All right.

02:11:19.980 We've got some chats here we've got to get caught up on.

02:11:22.140 We have kill of cereal.

02:11:24.080 Natalie, can I have you read this?

02:11:25.380 Sure.

02:11:26.260 Pick 6'1 tall, 180K a year, 10-inch peen with a negative world outlook and sour attitude

02:11:35.400 in general, or 5'2 tall, 30K a year, 4-inch peen with a positive world outlook and oozes

02:11:42.500 confidence and swagger.

02:11:44.760 Last one.

02:11:47.220 The second one.

02:11:48.900 Second one, I like average dick.

02:11:50.920 Okay.

02:11:51.720 The first one.

02:11:52.360 I'm going to say the second one.

02:11:56.700 Was that, I said the wrong answer.

02:11:58.480 It's okay.

02:11:59.480 I know, I was going to say, take it back to the first.

02:12:01.500 Second one.

02:12:02.580 Second.

02:12:03.620 Second.

02:12:05.940 First.

02:12:07.220 Why did you just, out of all that, you, whoa.

02:12:11.680 What?

02:12:12.040 She just admitted she likes 10-inch penis.

02:12:14.840 No.

02:12:16.180 I just.

02:12:16.800 It was 6'1 tall.

02:12:18.000 I'm not going to date someone who I make more money than.

02:12:20.760 There you go.

02:12:22.780 Gustavo, what about you?

02:12:23.840 Which of the two men do you pick?

02:12:26.820 Oh, sorry.

02:12:27.680 That's what I was going to say.

02:12:28.900 Sorry.

02:12:29.840 Okay.

02:12:31.060 All right.

02:12:31.980 What's the, I'm always curious, Killa of Cereal, can you submit the reverse, what would

02:12:37.920 the question be that you ask men?

02:12:39.820 And, like, compare this woman and this woman, which do you pick?

02:12:43.760 If somebody else wants to run in on that one.

02:12:45.940 Okay.

02:12:46.400 We have, Bri, kick first girl from the pug.

02:12:50.600 Pick up here.

02:12:51.220 Clearly, LFG isn't working for you by her own admission.

02:12:54.000 Low level, no buffs, debuffs.

02:12:55.520 Can't heal, no DPS.

02:12:57.160 She's just learning.

02:12:58.980 She's also a clicker.

02:13:00.520 Like, you know how, like, you can key bind shit, but she also is, like, she, like, clicks

02:13:03.960 on abilities and shit.

02:13:05.620 Been AFK a few times, first hour.

02:13:07.580 Yeah, true, like, no back, yeah, she also backpedals, you know, it is what it is.

02:13:12.280 It's, like, yeah, it's, like, pretty shitty internet connection, you know, but it's, like,

02:13:17.860 dial up speeds, but, you know, you know, like, listen, we're, like, the guild, we're

02:13:25.300 trying our best, like, we're going to make an exception, but, like, yeah, we might loot

02:13:28.160 banner, you know, so.

02:13:30.560 Sorry, it's, like, World of Warcraft thing.

02:13:32.500 Don't worry about it, guys.

02:13:33.640 It's like, what?

02:13:36.360 Natalie, can you read this one?

02:13:37.260 A hedge fund manager.

02:13:38.720 I'm curious about the income level you desire for a traditional husband like myself to prompt

02:13:43.780 you to leave your job.

02:13:44.900 How many kids do you want?

02:13:46.020 Are you keen on being a stay-at-home mom or pursuing a different career post-college?

02:13:51.200 How many kids do you want?

02:13:52.400 I'm keen.

02:13:54.660 Wait.

02:13:55.300 I mean, there's a lot of questions there.

02:14:00.580 We typically only do, like, one, maybe two questions, Max, per super chat, Journey Life.

02:14:06.960 So, Journey, if you can maybe, do you want to send, like, a $2 or $5 one and clarify, if

02:14:14.520 you want, which of these questions you want to ask?

02:14:16.560 Otherwise, I'm just going to say, do you want, I'm just going to ask the last one.

02:14:22.460 Do you want to be a stay-at-home mom, or do you want to pursue a career or a mix of both,

02:14:28.840 starting with you?

02:14:29.840 A career.

02:14:31.260 Career?

02:14:32.480 Career.

02:14:33.080 I think I'd be too bored being a stay-at-home mom.

02:14:35.380 Yeah, I think I'd be bored.

02:14:36.720 Okay.

02:14:37.160 You guys, do you want kids, though?

02:14:38.820 Yeah.

02:14:39.560 I'm not sure.

02:14:40.740 You're not set?

02:14:41.060 Okay.

02:14:41.620 I want kids.

02:14:42.580 I want to be a stay-at-home mom for the first few years, and then I want to work on my own

02:14:48.140 stuff, like, my own company.

02:14:50.800 Okay.

02:14:52.380 Like, a mix of both.

02:14:53.540 I do want kids.

02:14:54.820 Okay.

02:14:55.300 A mix of both, but also a career.

02:14:57.160 Okay.

02:14:57.800 I would also say a mix of both, but I don't know if I want kids yet.

02:15:01.760 I've had a mix of both.

02:15:03.500 Okay.

02:15:04.480 I have one kid, and I don't want any more.

02:15:08.020 Sorry, what was the second question?

02:15:10.260 Be a stay-at-home mom.

02:15:11.720 Well, I was a stay-at-home mom for a few years, and I prefer to work.

02:15:16.480 I like to make my own money.

02:15:18.460 But I think the answer to the other question, like, 75, maybe, for the man?

02:15:23.880 Wait, you don't want kids anymore?

02:15:25.520 No, I just want one and done.

02:15:27.140 Have you got in your tube side or whatever it's called?

02:15:29.200 I have an IUD.

02:15:30.080 IUD?

02:15:30.580 Okay.

02:15:31.340 What about you?

02:15:31.700 I'd like to be a stay-at-home mom and have all the babies and make all the sourdough bread

02:15:36.540 and have all the dinners cooked for my husband.

02:15:39.600 I want to be a traditional Christian wife, and I think that's very honorable.

02:15:43.980 That's a W.

02:15:45.040 Yeah.

02:15:45.560 Thank you.

02:15:46.200 Yeah.

02:15:47.000 Honestly, that's a good lifestyle.

02:15:48.780 And that's not for everyone.

02:15:50.040 No, yeah, exactly.

02:15:51.080 I still want to have, like, a career and skills and an education, but...

02:15:55.600 Why are you laughing?

02:15:56.300 I mean, just...

02:15:58.300 You're a character.

02:16:00.120 That's all, huh?

02:16:00.760 You're a character.

02:16:01.800 It's a compliment, I think.

02:16:03.320 Okay, good.

02:16:05.060 Definitely stay-at-home, but I would continue with my show and media career, but it's not

02:16:10.080 really that time-consuming.

02:16:11.480 Okay.

02:16:13.000 He says, ask all of them.

02:16:15.800 Okay, well, so I asked one.

02:16:17.900 Um, we'll do, uh, okay, how about desired, desired income of your future long-term life

02:16:28.200 partner, and then we'll also do, how many kids do you want?

02:16:31.980 Um...

02:16:32.340 And that should...

02:16:33.200 Okay, yeah, I want three kids for the income.

02:16:35.620 Is it bad that I'm going to say I don't care about the income?

02:16:38.480 For the guy?

02:16:39.120 Yeah.

02:16:40.360 Like, zero.

02:16:41.040 Like, I don't care.

02:16:41.740 You don't care at all?

02:16:42.780 No.

02:16:43.220 But isn't there a certain economic reality if you want to have three kids?

02:16:46.140 No, I do have standards, I do have, okay, you're right, I do have standards for the

02:16:49.980 man, because I have dealt with a lot of bums in my life that I was literally, like, dealing

02:16:55.380 with a man-child for three years, um, but...

02:16:57.980 Have you ever supported a guy financially?

02:16:59.500 No, yeah, for three years, and I was...

02:17:01.240 So you do care about the money, then?

02:17:02.880 Huh?

02:17:03.240 You do care about the guy's income, then?

02:17:05.700 Um...

02:17:06.300 To some degree.

02:17:06.980 Well, now I'm starting to realize that there's value in that.

02:17:11.000 Like, men have to bring value, too, because I was putting way too much value into men.

02:17:16.140 Um, but, no, I realized this, I realized this, like, two years, or a year and a half ago.

02:17:21.720 Well, after the three-year relationship, or, I don't even know, but, anyways, um, for the

02:17:27.700 income...

02:17:28.460 Yeah.

02:17:30.740 Bare minimum income.

02:17:32.840 Fucking, like, 50K.

02:17:35.440 50K?

02:17:35.960 Okay, so for you, your life partner, obviously income fluctuates, you know, throughout time,

02:17:42.380 so it's a bit, well, what age?

02:17:45.100 Um, let's just say when you're, I don't know, whatever, however you want to take, uh, desired

02:17:53.120 income for a partner, how many kids do you want?

02:17:55.920 Um, I mean, I don't know how many children I want.

02:17:58.740 You're not sure on kids, right?

02:18:00.180 Yeah.

02:18:00.760 What about income?

02:18:01.540 Because you, you, you know, you want to really focus on your career.

02:18:04.120 Are you going to get your master's or PhD, or...

02:18:06.380 Um, I'm not sure yet.

02:18:07.620 You're just going to get your bachelor's and...

02:18:09.900 Yeah, I mean, I may want to do more school, I'm not sure yet.

02:18:12.940 You're getting your bachelor's in sociology, correct?

02:18:15.640 Yeah.

02:18:15.980 What do you want to do with that?

02:18:17.320 Um, maybe go into social work.

02:18:18.900 I'm also interested in marketing.

02:18:20.480 I'm in the AMA club at UCSB.

02:18:22.640 Okay.

02:18:23.800 Um, so, okay.

02:18:25.380 So do you have a sense of how much you'd want your partner to make?

02:18:28.680 There's not necessarily a level, just as long as we're financially stable, that's all

02:18:32.540 I care about.

02:18:33.500 Okay.

02:18:33.740 I would say that, kind of going off of that, so, like, I want three to five kids, so whatever

02:18:39.420 is reasonable for the lifestyle that we decide we want to live, because, yeah, a lot of people

02:18:44.240 say, okay, OnlyFans, like, you make a lot of money, and you have whatever, but I also

02:18:49.620 know what it's like to live a more chill lifestyle, and I did that as a kid, so, I don't know, just

02:18:58.160 kind of want to be comfortable with the family that I decide to have, number of kids, and then

02:19:02.520 where I want to live, and the lifestyle I want to live.

02:19:06.500 I'm listening.

02:19:07.360 Does that make sense?

02:19:08.500 Yeah, I'm listening.

02:19:08.660 That makes sense.

02:19:09.180 That was kind of rude.

02:19:09.740 What was that?

02:19:10.440 I mean, you weren't listening.

02:19:11.520 I was listening.

02:19:13.020 I was listening.

02:19:14.020 I was just...

02:19:14.820 Were you?

02:19:15.540 Yeah.

02:19:15.780 Okay.

02:19:16.180 I heard.

02:19:16.980 Is that fair?

02:19:17.580 It depends on the kind of, you know, three to five kids.

02:19:19.920 I think that makes a big difference of how many kids you want to have, because, like,

02:19:24.520 three kids at 50K, I mean, that's going to be hard.

02:19:26.860 That's going to be hard.

02:19:27.480 That's hard for, like, one person to take care of yourself, so I'm just being realistic,

02:19:32.960 right?

02:19:33.240 Because what you can get in, for example, a house in California versus a house in South

02:19:37.700 Dakota, right?

02:19:38.380 It's going to be a completely different lifestyle.

02:19:40.100 Totally different lifestyle.

02:19:41.620 Are you mocking me, or do you agree?

02:19:42.560 No, I'm agreeing with you.

02:19:43.400 Okay.

02:19:43.720 Totally different.

02:19:44.960 Like, for real.

02:19:45.920 You can get, like, a mansion in Texas.

02:19:47.380 With your partner, what you decide on what type of lifestyle you want to live.

02:19:50.180 It's crazy out here.

02:19:51.140 These housing prices.

02:19:52.640 I'm just going to shut the fuck up.

02:19:53.120 I'm going to shut the ride.

02:19:53.500 What?

02:19:53.740 I'm agreeing with you.

02:19:55.160 Sorry, the caffeine's kicking in.

02:19:56.480 What about you?

02:19:57.540 I don't like caffeine.

02:19:59.080 I don't think I have, like, a certain number.

02:20:00.840 I would like it to be more than me.

02:20:02.440 More than you?

02:20:02.600 I'm not totally sure what I want to pursue, but I think a lot of things I would wouldn't

02:20:07.940 be something I could support my family on my own.

02:20:11.340 Okay.

02:20:12.000 And how many kids?

02:20:12.840 I'd want, like, two kids.

02:20:14.060 Two kids?

02:20:14.540 What about you?

02:20:15.340 I think if I were to have kids, it'd be two max for sure.

02:20:17.900 Two max, okay.

02:20:18.540 Income-wise, I don't know.

02:20:21.100 Whatever supports, like, two kids, obviously I want to be, like, stable.

02:20:24.300 I don't want to have to worry about money, but I would say, like, if I was with, like,

02:20:27.200 a blue-collar man, that'd be fine.

02:20:31.360 Is a blue-collar man more likely to lean in a certain political orientation?

02:20:39.940 Yeah.

02:20:40.260 I feel like, yeah.

02:20:41.960 Okay, anyways, that's a different question.

02:20:44.220 What about you?

02:20:45.280 How many kids do you want and bare minimum income for a partner?

02:20:49.080 So I have two kids, and I just wanted two kids as far as minimum income, enough for them

02:20:55.640 to live comfortably on their own.

02:20:58.080 Okay.

02:20:58.960 What about you?

02:21:00.060 One and done.

02:21:01.240 Done.

02:21:01.600 She's done.

02:21:02.280 Done.

02:21:03.200 No more kids.

02:21:04.180 I would say benchmark at least 75 or 80.

02:21:07.620 Okay.

02:21:08.100 All right.

02:21:08.480 I want two kids, but the third can be an accident, because if you say you want three,

02:21:13.780 you're going to get four, and I'm not doing that.

02:21:15.420 No, my original was two, but I feel that.

02:21:18.820 Yeah, so the third can happen by accident, but I definitely want to have, I want to be

02:21:25.040 in a position to bless people and help people, not only my family, but people that are in

02:21:29.340 need, and just selflessly, and I want to be able to tithe to the church and just help

02:21:33.900 others that need it.

02:21:35.060 Natalie, what about you?

02:21:36.480 Probably at least two, probably at least three, actually.

02:21:39.480 You've got to go above replacement rate.

02:21:41.580 Yeah.

02:21:42.520 That would be off-brand if I didn't do that.

02:21:45.720 I don't know, like more than my dad.

02:21:48.840 Okay.

02:21:49.660 How much does your dad make?

02:21:51.140 I'm not going to say that, but...

02:21:52.340 But he's got to make more than your dad.

02:21:54.080 Well...

02:21:54.680 What's your dad do for work?

02:21:56.240 My certain lifestyle.

02:21:56.740 What's your dad do for work?

02:21:58.000 My dad's a doctor and other things.

02:22:01.280 What kind of doctor?

02:22:03.020 Infectious disease.

02:22:05.760 So a lot.

02:22:06.960 Yeah.

02:22:07.840 Okay.

02:22:08.280 I just, I think when you're used to a certain type of lifestyle, and I don't even mean

02:22:12.300 that at a financial level, like, you're not going to realistically be happy if you are

02:22:18.360 living well below it.

02:22:20.980 I just, I'll answer somewhat really quick.

02:22:23.820 I'll get married if she's rich.

02:22:27.020 She's married for money.

02:22:28.260 And 5'11".

02:22:29.180 Oh, yeah.

02:22:29.480 I'll get married.

02:22:30.200 What's that?

02:22:30.760 And 5'11", or 4'11".

02:22:32.740 Oh, like, in terms of what I want?

02:22:35.100 Like, my type?

02:22:35.820 Can you hear more about labia size or wealth?

02:22:39.120 That's a crazy topic.

02:22:40.320 That's crazy.

02:22:41.280 That's crazy.

02:22:41.980 That's crazy, Natalie.

02:22:43.360 No, that's crazy.

02:22:43.900 I didn't expect that from you, Natalie.

02:22:47.280 Exactly.

02:22:48.920 That's why I'm confused.

02:22:50.220 Yeah.

02:22:51.220 Labia.

02:22:51.840 Labia sizes.

02:22:53.200 He said libya.

02:22:54.260 I only, I actually, I'll date a girl with an innie, but I do prefer Audis.

02:22:59.880 Like, the bigger, the better.

02:23:01.020 I want some Guinness World Record.

02:23:02.960 Book shit.

02:23:03.800 What's that Arby's mean?

02:23:05.180 Like, what would her net worth have to be?

02:23:06.640 Anti-A.

02:23:07.960 Minimum net worth.

02:23:08.880 Oh, minimum net worth?

02:23:10.240 What do you mean?

02:23:11.080 For, for labia.

02:23:12.540 Oh, it can be zero if the labia is big.

02:23:15.700 I mean, I don't really care, you know, but she can, she can have no income, but if she's

02:23:20.140 got, like, that Guinness World Record, labia, sign me up.

02:23:24.500 Never will.

02:23:25.740 Look, what?

02:23:26.440 You guys are all a little, ugh.

02:23:28.080 But you guys have penis size preferences.

02:23:31.380 No.

02:23:31.680 Y'all have preferences when it comes to penises.

02:23:35.340 I'm flipping it around, huh?

02:23:37.200 You ain't ever heard this before.

02:23:39.280 I have a labia preference.

02:23:40.820 You haven't heard it?

02:23:41.720 I was being sarcastic.

02:23:42.900 Oh, okay.

02:23:43.540 Yeah.

02:23:43.700 I have a labia preference.

02:23:45.820 Sue me.

02:23:46.520 What's up?

02:23:47.160 I have a question, man.

02:23:48.140 What's up?

02:23:48.540 What you got?

02:23:49.100 About the labia question.

02:23:50.700 What's your question?

02:23:51.680 Okay.

02:23:52.040 Go ahead.

02:23:52.800 So, let's think about your childhood.

02:23:55.120 What the fuck?

02:23:56.300 Yeah.

02:23:56.960 Bro, you goofy right now.

02:23:58.240 What the fuck?

02:23:58.980 No, because.

02:24:00.220 Childhood?

02:24:00.660 There's a reason why you have a labia obsession.

02:24:04.680 Bro, you about to say something.

02:24:06.300 He has an obsession with women just being natural.

02:24:08.300 Can I continue?

02:24:09.780 Can I continue?

02:24:10.760 You about.

02:24:11.220 I feel like you're about to say some shit.

02:24:12.680 Childhood real quick.

02:24:13.860 You're going to say some shit that's going to make me want to kick you the fuck off the

02:24:16.900 show, probably.

02:24:17.760 Oh, okay.

02:24:18.700 I think you.

02:24:19.280 So, do you not want me to say it?

02:24:20.620 Why me, Coyote 5-0 donated $100.

02:24:23.840 For panel, you've been recently sanctioned by the CCP because of your reporting.

02:24:28.900 You're flying Air China to Hong Kong.

02:24:31.620 A CCP pilot hits the ejecto-seater because in attempt to unalive you, can you land the

02:24:37.320 plane?

02:24:38.680 Can we give this to her?

02:24:40.380 Huh?

02:24:40.920 I think that was.

02:24:41.840 You've been recently sanctioned.

02:24:42.780 She said four panels.

02:24:44.200 Four panels.

02:24:45.140 She's on paneling.

02:24:45.920 She's on paneling.

02:24:45.940 Because in 1010 Live, you can land a plane.

02:24:47.860 Can any of you land a plane?

02:24:49.340 Yes or no?

02:24:50.100 Nope.

02:24:50.620 I know somebody that can, but.

02:24:52.020 Oh, okay.

02:24:52.700 All right.

02:24:54.300 So, what were you, what are you trying to go at?

02:24:58.640 Well, I want, I will, I'm, because I don't really know a lot about you.

02:25:03.100 So.

02:25:03.400 Just because you have a lot of childhood trauma doesn't mean.

02:25:06.760 No, I get it.

02:25:07.200 I get it.

02:25:07.560 I get it.

02:25:07.960 That other people do.

02:25:08.520 I know.

02:25:08.820 I just want to pick your brain.

02:25:10.260 Let me pick your brain.

02:25:10.860 Yeah, but I feel like you're going to say something.

02:25:12.580 Okay, no, but I'm confused.

02:25:13.580 I'm confused.

02:25:14.220 Okay, so with, like, the OnlyFans thing, too, just to go back to that.

02:25:17.520 Like, and the Libya, the labia, labia, whatever the fuck, type beat.

02:25:23.140 Mine's in Libya.

02:25:23.900 How does having a genitalia preference have anything to do with something in your childhood?

02:25:33.440 Okay, so.

02:25:34.340 That's so weird.

02:25:35.000 Can we think back to your childhood really quick?

02:25:37.180 Bro, you, like, you look at things through such a warped and twisted frame of mind, but

02:25:41.780 go ahead.

02:25:42.300 I'll entertain it, but.

02:25:43.320 No, okay, yeah.

02:25:44.000 You'll probably end up annoying things.

02:25:45.540 So, go ahead.

02:25:46.140 Let's pretend you're a child and you find OnlyFans for the first time.

02:25:49.580 Bro, I don't, this is a gross conversation.

02:25:51.800 What's your reaction to that?

02:25:54.340 How?

02:25:55.800 Explain the logic of your question to me.

02:25:57.780 No, I'm confused.

02:25:58.180 Like, what's your answer?

02:26:00.920 What?

02:26:01.420 You're, you're a child.

02:26:02.440 You want me to hypothetically put myself.

02:26:04.780 Yes.

02:26:05.420 Like, reverse.

02:26:06.560 Mm-hmm.

02:26:07.020 Put myself as, what, a four-year-old?

02:26:09.040 Mm-hmm.

02:26:09.440 Bro, you got a sick and fucking twisted mind that you want to, like, have a hypothetical

02:26:13.380 question about a child watching adult content?

02:26:16.260 You're, now you're twisting it kind of weird.

02:26:17.780 I'm not twisting it.

02:26:18.680 You're being the fucking weirdo with this question.

02:26:20.880 Can you answer?

02:26:22.720 I don't even want to, like.

02:26:25.100 Disgruntled Care Bear donated $100.

02:26:26.300 In my chat, what do you think about?

02:26:28.020 That's weird.

02:26:28.840 To panel, especially God.

02:26:30.040 You can answer the question.

02:26:30.760 Why is it whenever you hear something you don't like?

02:26:32.160 I don't understand the question.

02:26:33.620 You must always assume something is wrong with the man's childhood.

02:26:38.200 You must always assume something is wrong.

02:26:39.880 Yeah, that's a good question, Disgruntled Care Bear.

02:26:42.240 I mean, I'm pulling up the YouTube chat.

02:26:44.760 This is such a weird line of questioning.

02:26:48.420 It's like, does anybody else concur that it's really peculiar?

02:26:52.000 Yeah.

02:26:52.500 Yes.

02:26:53.020 Yeah.

02:26:53.260 I just don't know where you're going with the question.

02:26:57.180 I want him to answer the question.

02:26:59.120 You, you may, you may well want me to do a great many things, but I'm, I'm inclined to

02:27:05.280 not engage you.

02:27:06.280 Are you answering it anymore?

02:27:07.700 I just don't see the purpose of your strange fucking question.

02:27:11.740 Okay.

02:27:12.640 Okay.

02:27:13.640 I just wanted to see your answer, that's why.

02:27:16.240 But since you didn't give me an answer, I can't give you, like, why I asked.

02:27:21.420 I, to counter that, do you have, like, a dick size preference or, like, anything like that at all?

02:27:27.820 No, no?

02:27:28.360 No.

02:27:28.940 Okay.

02:27:36.160 Is there a particular girth of, like, labia size that you prefer?

02:27:42.080 Girth?

02:27:42.520 I mean, yeah.

02:27:43.160 I don't know.

02:27:44.080 Like, I don't know how you measure labia.

02:27:46.520 I mean, just.

02:27:47.240 Length, length or girth.

02:27:50.900 The curtain drop.

02:27:52.200 That's fair.

02:27:52.820 That's two different things.

02:27:54.060 That's fair.

02:27:54.400 There's, there's different, yeah, I mean, there's different factors to it.

02:27:57.280 Typically, I don't articulate it to this extent, but, um, so the question is the girth?

02:28:04.460 Girth or, or how, how do you measure labia?

02:28:07.320 I mean, like, what do you, what, what?

02:28:08.600 Yeah, I'm confused about that, too.

02:28:10.520 I mean, there's the, I mean, are we really going here?

02:28:12.160 You have a whole Instagram dedicated today.

02:28:13.400 Hey, we talk about pins all the time, so go there for us.

02:28:16.900 I mean, the, I don't even know how to, like, precisely describe, describe it.

02:28:23.760 It's difficult.

02:28:24.740 Well, you did say any and outie, so we can start there.

02:28:27.160 Well, yeah, there's, there's outies.

02:28:29.060 Large, large labia.

02:28:30.860 The, the, the, the lips, the lips are, are long, big.

02:28:35.320 Yeah.

02:28:35.700 We love all vaginas.

02:28:37.400 Do you, are you saying you have an outie?

02:28:38.820 Is that what you're saying?

02:28:39.920 No.

02:28:40.540 Oh, okay, okay.

02:28:41.300 I don't know.

02:28:42.000 That's awkward now.

02:28:43.920 Brian, have you met, have you met crickets?

02:28:46.060 Such a woman yet?

02:28:47.360 I've met women with large labia, yeah.

02:28:50.220 How was it?

02:28:51.160 What happened to them?

02:28:51.760 Oh, bro, what the fuck?

02:28:53.000 Yeah, no, it's, he got swallowed.

02:28:57.220 Rowan in a tunnel.

02:28:58.840 Why did you let them go then?

02:29:00.320 The abyss.

02:29:01.580 I don't know, have you ever fucked a guy with a big dick and you let him go?

02:29:04.700 I mean, shit, you know?

02:29:06.300 There's other factors.

02:29:07.520 It's not like I'm just, she's got a big labia, I'm set for life.

02:29:12.360 I'll stay with her forever.

02:29:14.720 No, you know, she's got to have more.

02:29:16.480 She's got to have more.

02:29:18.260 Now, the biggest tragedy is like a girl with like a giant labia, but she's a terrible person.

02:29:23.640 I'm so conflicted.

02:29:25.320 I thought you were going to say labioplasties.

02:29:27.300 Oh, that's a, that's very sad too.

02:29:29.440 We talked about that a lot.

02:29:30.040 When they get labioplasties, 10,000 a year in the United States.

02:29:33.780 I'm against, I'm against labioplasties, but let me double down.

02:29:36.960 I'm against plastic surgery.

02:29:38.660 Oh, that's where it stems from.

02:29:40.240 That's what I was kind of getting at.

02:29:41.140 I'm against all that.

02:29:43.200 He just doesn't like plastic surgery in general.

02:29:45.600 I don't like it.

02:29:46.220 It's a preference.

02:29:46.700 I didn't know that.

02:29:47.440 It's okay.

02:29:48.260 What do you mean it's okay?

02:29:49.100 It's actually dope.

02:29:49.940 It's a preference.

02:29:51.900 As a girl, you should be co-signing my position on plastic surgery.

02:29:56.200 Well, I got a labioplasty.

02:29:56.740 We talked about this last time.

02:29:57.880 So like, I don't agree with you.

02:30:00.460 Yeah.

02:30:01.260 Respectfully.

02:30:01.620 I don't agree with him either.

02:30:03.500 It's okay.

02:30:03.920 But I didn't get plastic surgery for a man.

02:30:05.860 I was celibate, like I mentioned, during 2022.

02:30:08.400 And I got a labioplasty during my celibacy.

02:30:10.920 My whole year of celibacy.

02:30:12.080 That was a sad day for a sad day.

02:30:14.200 Can you, what exactly did you have done?

02:30:19.000 If you don't mind me asking.

02:30:20.260 I'm just curious.

02:30:21.060 Got it.

02:30:22.100 Like, nice and tight.

02:30:23.480 Sad.

02:30:24.280 Yeah, like my plastic surgeon, we had like a full PowerPoint.

02:30:27.580 And we like went through like, okay, this is what I want.

02:30:31.140 Disappointing.

02:30:31.940 Can I catch it?

02:30:33.840 Asteroid scent.

02:30:35.060 Damn it.

02:30:36.380 Anyways, y'all know where to go.

02:30:38.280 You want to?

02:30:39.000 Haha.

02:30:40.020 No, I'm good.

02:30:41.940 Wait.

02:30:42.280 Oh, but no.

02:30:42.860 Plastic surgery, I'm against it.

02:30:44.500 I know.

02:30:44.940 Why?

02:30:45.380 And I respect that for you.

02:30:46.780 I do too, I guess.

02:30:48.680 We're a panel of different.

02:30:50.820 Yeah.

02:30:51.200 Brian likes natural.

02:30:52.340 It's fake.

02:30:53.180 I think it looks kind of trans.

02:30:55.560 Wait, Brian.

02:30:56.460 Did she just say it looks kind of trans?

02:30:58.800 Yeah.

02:30:59.600 What's your question?

02:31:00.540 The question for you is, you like natural women, but if I look on your Instagram, who

02:31:04.560 are you following?

02:31:06.400 No one.

02:31:07.860 Are you following any girls that maybe have plastic surgery?

02:31:11.140 Wait, what did I miss?

02:31:13.980 Can we circle back to the trans comment?

02:31:15.280 Wait, no, no, no.

02:31:15.820 Let me answer her question.

02:31:18.480 I'm not following anybody on Instagram.

02:31:21.660 On your personal Instagram?

02:31:22.600 On my personal Instagram.

02:31:23.720 I'm not following anybody.

02:31:24.820 Okay.

02:31:25.180 That's valid.

02:31:26.280 I follow the whatever Instagram.

02:31:28.000 And then on the whatever Instagram, I follow me.

02:31:31.200 And that's it.

02:31:31.760 I'm not.

02:31:32.680 These guys who like follow IG models or chicks and like look at, like their photos.

02:31:38.400 That's weird.

02:31:39.480 I have a question.

02:31:40.160 That's goofy.

02:31:41.120 So even on like, wait, so your personal Instagram, you don't follow?

02:31:44.460 I don't follow anybody.

02:31:45.740 Not even your friends?

02:31:46.740 No.

02:31:47.240 Why?

02:31:47.540 I don't give a fuck about the food, your bullshit food posts.

02:31:51.680 I don't care.

02:31:53.080 I'm focused.

02:31:53.980 I have a mission in life.

02:31:55.620 And I'm too busy to be concerned with the bullshit posts that you do to try to paint your life like in some very, you know, oh, you were on vacation?

02:32:06.340 Oh, you had like a little cob salad at that restaurant?

02:32:12.260 Don't care.

02:32:13.960 You have a ceremony?

02:32:15.240 That's very good.

02:32:15.960 No, I just don't.

02:32:17.280 I don't know.

02:32:18.120 Maybe it's because I'm older, but I've never been.

02:32:20.600 Honestly, if I didn't do the YouTube thing, I wouldn't have Twitter.

02:32:24.560 I wouldn't have Instagram.

02:32:25.700 I wouldn't give a fuck about any of that.

02:32:28.420 Yeah.

02:32:28.700 If I'm maybe I have like a private Instagram and for like I follow my family or something.

02:32:34.580 But no, I don't follow anybody.

02:32:36.740 Cool.

02:32:37.560 Yeah.

02:32:38.280 That's what's up.

02:32:41.080 Okay.

02:32:41.920 Where were we?

02:32:42.660 We were talking.

02:32:43.060 Yes.

02:32:43.500 No, but I don't follow anybody.

02:32:45.960 I'm not quite about the trans thing.

02:32:47.120 That's the trans thing.

02:32:48.480 Wait, no.

02:32:48.880 We were talking about plastic surgery.

02:32:50.320 Hold on.

02:32:50.640 Let me.

02:32:51.220 Disgruntled Care Bear donated $100.

02:32:54.520 Whoever he follows on Instagram doesn't reflect his morals.

02:32:58.400 I don't think that makes sense.

02:32:59.180 Because he liked looking at nice cars doesn't mean he would want to own one in the end.

02:33:03.840 Oh, but I don't.

02:33:04.860 Here's the thing.

02:33:05.640 I don't follow girls on Instagram.

02:33:08.500 I don't like their posts.

02:33:10.480 I don't care.

02:33:12.400 That's you.

02:33:13.060 I think in general, you make a very good point because a lot of guys that do comment negative

02:33:18.560 stuff on my posts or girls' posts in general is you go to their profile and they're following

02:33:23.540 you and you look at their following as all Instagram models and you're like, I mean,

02:33:28.540 I appreciate the comment because it just boosts me in the algorithm more.

02:33:34.120 What were you saying?

02:33:40.660 Right.

02:33:41.920 Sorry.

02:33:42.440 What I was saying was in most scenarios, when a guy comments negative things on any girls,

02:33:47.660 like bikini pictures or anything like that, you go to their profile, they're following

02:33:51.420 you.

02:33:52.240 Is that what guys do?

02:33:53.380 They're just like commenting negative photos on your...

02:33:55.440 Yeah, and then you go to their following, it's all Instagram models.

02:33:58.180 That's weird.

02:33:59.000 Yeah.

02:33:59.260 That's weird.

02:33:59.780 It's like a revenge type thing.

02:34:01.300 I mean, my advice to men is don't follow girls on Instagram.

02:34:07.580 Don't look at, don't be like, like almost in this pornographic days of like looking at

02:34:13.640 their bikini photos or whatever.

02:34:16.180 Don't like their photos.

02:34:18.480 I don't know.

02:34:19.820 And I think as women, you're totally justifiable.

02:34:23.120 If your boyfriend is like obsessed with other chicks on Instagram, I think that that's not,

02:34:28.220 that's not a good, that's a sub.

02:34:31.000 It's not an optimal dating choice for you to date a guy who's like thirsting over other

02:34:35.440 chicks.

02:34:36.480 So, you got to have discipline.

02:34:39.900 Got to have discipline.

02:34:41.520 Agreed.

02:34:42.340 I was just saying that was a good point.

02:34:43.560 Now, on the makeup thing, I want to talk about makeup here.

02:34:46.040 Are we going to just glaze over the trans comment?

02:34:48.020 Because that one, I need to get an explanation for that.

02:34:50.680 We can come back there.

02:34:51.620 Let's come back there.

02:34:52.200 I need an explanation.

02:34:52.820 Wait, let me actually, hold on.

02:34:54.240 Let me read a chat here.

02:34:56.160 Natalie, can you read this?

02:34:57.080 He's scared.

02:34:57.980 Male version.

02:34:59.940 5'11", 36, 25, 36, 180K a year.

02:35:05.100 D cup with the worst snagging, controlling behavior imaginable.

02:35:08.720 Or 5'2", 46, 36, 46, 30K a year.

02:35:13.420 B cup with the utmost respect and gives you your freedom.

02:35:17.140 Is that really the count?

02:35:20.620 Okay.

02:35:21.300 So, this is for, yeah, I would take the second one.

02:35:23.800 I'll take the second one.

02:35:25.600 All right.

02:35:25.880 Thank you, Kill of Cereal.

02:35:26.740 Appreciate it.

02:35:27.240 We have Ryan, the eating warrior.

02:35:28.920 She wants a guy that makes as much as her dad.

02:35:31.240 Is she looking for a guy her dad's age, too?

02:35:33.620 Got to be realistic.

02:35:36.520 Word.

02:35:37.180 Thank you, writing.

02:35:38.420 She wants a guy that makes as much as her dad.

02:35:39.760 That's fair.

02:35:39.900 Oh, this is for you, Natalie.

02:35:41.960 I've always dated older, but not my dad's age.

02:35:45.180 I feel like you're mature.

02:35:45.860 I feel like I could see you with an older man.

02:35:47.840 Yeah, I wouldn't do well with another 23.

02:35:49.360 Can I ask how old you are?

02:35:50.800 I'm 23.

02:35:51.660 Okay, 23.

02:35:52.360 You're 23?

02:35:52.740 Oh, that kind of seemed a little...

02:35:56.960 No, just she carries the older.

02:35:59.300 You just carry yourself.

02:36:00.700 It's impressive.

02:36:01.560 That's me.

02:36:02.220 I'm not trying to shit on you.

02:36:03.240 I'm just saying.

02:36:04.000 That's a W.

02:36:04.860 I wouldn't have thought 23.

02:36:05.800 Thank you.

02:36:06.020 I appreciate that.

02:36:06.860 That is a W.

02:36:08.760 Wait, okay.

02:36:09.420 Oh, plastic surgery.

02:36:12.180 I'm anti-plastic surgery.

02:36:13.860 No, we know that.

02:36:14.920 We're good at that.

02:36:16.060 We've been over the last.

02:36:16.600 Got it.

02:36:17.300 I just meant, like, the trans comment, it looks trans.

02:36:19.960 I just need clarification.

02:36:21.460 Yes, please.

02:36:21.760 Yeah, I think with plastic surgery, which is a monolithic term in the sense that are you

02:36:26.760 talking filler?

02:36:27.640 Are you talking actual going under the knife?

02:36:29.860 In general.

02:36:29.880 Just whatever.

02:36:30.400 But I think that a lot of times there's sort of a mental illness that can kind of come where

02:36:37.200 you don't really see yourself in the mirror, sort of like an anorexia, bulimia type thing,

02:36:40.960 right?

02:36:41.100 You want more filler in your lips.

02:36:43.120 You want more in your cheeks or whatever.

02:36:45.060 I've never had any plastic surgery done, frankly.

02:36:47.520 Maybe Botox down the road, but I'm very anti it.

02:36:50.420 But I think if you look at what men are doing to their faces to make themselves look more feminine

02:36:55.760 when they start to transition, right?

02:36:57.900 They're giving themselves bigger lips, cheekbones, kind of more feminine features.

02:37:02.020 And I think we are already blessed with feminine features since we're women.

02:37:05.800 And I think you're sort of putting stuff in your face, pumping yourself up to look so fake

02:37:11.520 where it's basically the same thing that men are doing to look like women.

02:37:15.400 And I just don't really think women need it.

02:37:17.580 And it's this sort of like fake spin on what it means to be a woman and what it means to

02:37:22.560 look like being a woman, which is just sort of, it looks sort of trans.

02:37:28.400 It looks sort of alien-like to me, I think.

02:37:31.240 And I don't know, I also think, too, with the filler stuff, it's really just like a

02:37:36.040 marketing campaign.

02:37:37.060 I think same with makeup, right?

02:37:38.420 They prey on women's insecurities.

02:37:40.160 And I don't know about you guys, but I feel like you can't even go anywhere now without

02:37:44.460 hearing like, oh, you have to start getting preventative Botox at 25.

02:37:47.440 Like, that wasn't the refrain 10 years ago.

02:37:49.980 But all these companies are spending a ton of money, right, to try to get people to do

02:37:53.760 that.

02:37:53.920 Because once you feel like you have to, then when you start, you can't stop.

02:37:57.060 So I don't know.

02:37:58.140 I just think good work looks good, but bad work.

02:38:02.000 Yeah.

02:38:02.640 Okay.

02:38:02.980 I see what you're saying.

02:38:03.940 That's where I wanted the clarification, because I'm like, there's definitely, I would

02:38:07.700 say a lot of people who go above and beyond and like keep going and have that like addiction

02:38:12.220 to it.

02:38:13.640 But yeah, if you're going to like a good injector or a good surgeon, they're going to be like,

02:38:17.340 no.

02:38:18.240 Sure.

02:38:19.020 Yeah.

02:38:19.540 Killing of cereal donated $100.

02:38:22.900 Cosmetic surgery and Instagram filters.

02:38:25.640 You can stay young on Instagram, bleeding into reality with plastics.

02:38:30.200 It doesn't keep up with the rest of your aging body, looking physically ill at older ages.

02:38:36.660 True.

02:38:36.880 Hold on.

02:38:37.260 We have some other chats coming in.

02:38:39.480 I'll read this one from disgruntled care bear.

02:38:42.340 It's coming in and it's a killer of cereal.

02:38:45.860 Appreciate it, man.

02:38:48.880 Brian, I will push back against the Instagram.

02:38:50.860 Why are you not holding the women who post those thirst traps on the internet in the first

02:38:54.900 place?

02:38:55.900 I think he means accountable, but want to tell men to not indulge in the free show?

02:39:01.060 Well, I mean, I'm not really in favor of women doing it either, but on an individual

02:39:08.620 level, I'm instructing you to have some degree of self-control in the same way, like porn's

02:39:15.800 out there, you can limit your porn use or entirely stop watching porn, for example.

02:39:25.960 I mean, from a dating lens, though, I think it's suboptimal to date a woman who's posting

02:39:33.440 a bunch of thirst traps.

02:39:34.320 I have a question for you, Ryan.

02:39:40.820 Go ahead.

02:39:41.920 Just about this whole podcast, do you think this is like your purpose in life?

02:39:47.180 Do you think this is what you were put here in life to do?

02:39:50.000 What's your reason for asking that question?

02:39:52.380 Just because of all like the controversialness and stuff.

02:39:55.260 I don't believe in fate.

02:39:56.760 You don't believe in fate?

02:39:57.600 I don't believe in fate.

02:39:58.960 So the purpose thing is like...

02:40:01.200 I don't know what purpose.

02:40:02.840 Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

02:40:03.860 Okay.

02:40:04.320 That's all I need to know.

02:40:07.360 Is there more to that question, though?

02:40:10.100 It's kind of meta.

02:40:11.180 Okay, okay.

02:40:11.660 So like your goals in this podcast, like is this your number one goal?

02:40:16.280 Is this where you want to achieve just this podcast?

02:40:18.900 Or do you want to go higher and higher and higher than that?

02:40:21.760 I mean, doesn't anybody want more?

02:40:24.760 Yeah, so what are you trying to achieve out of this podcast?

02:40:27.840 I don't really see how this...

02:40:28.920 This is a bit of a meta conversation that's not really related to dating, but what do I want

02:40:33.560 to achieve with this podcast?

02:40:34.600 I obviously want to be able to try to make some sense of the current dating landscape or

02:40:40.240 hellscape, as I like to call it.

02:40:41.640 I'd like to...

02:40:42.700 I'll finish.

02:40:43.160 Mike Davis donated $100.

02:40:45.480 Oh, God.

02:40:45.860 Y'all ninjas got to understand.

02:40:48.160 Most females share a collective group think low IQ brain.

02:40:52.080 He's the resident roaster.

02:40:53.260 He's a roaster.

02:40:54.040 Psychology like childhood trauma and be thinking they dropping profound knowledge.

02:40:58.860 I agree with the last part there.

02:41:04.320 So your question was what?

02:41:07.440 That's my purpose.

02:41:09.040 Oh, I was saying I obviously am trying to, you know, perhaps move both men and women to

02:41:14.420 a more, as far as I see it, a better worldview when it comes to dating, a better approach to

02:41:20.460 dating.

02:41:20.700 I specifically, sometimes I advocate for women, but I mostly advocate for men, and obviously

02:41:28.840 I enjoy putting on an entertaining show, and yeah.

02:41:33.580 Okay.

02:41:34.920 What's your purpose for making nude content on OnlyFans?

02:41:39.620 I want to influence the world positively, not OnlyFans, but just with my knowledge.

02:41:45.320 No, but you asked me, what's my purpose with what I'm currently doing with my profession?

02:41:50.520 What's your purpose for what you're doing?

02:41:52.620 With my profession?

02:41:53.460 Yeah, you're OnlyFans.

02:41:54.700 Okay.

02:41:55.320 Like I said, I'm an event management, like, I'm a-

02:41:58.520 You're an event manager?

02:42:00.460 Management major.

02:42:01.040 I'm going to be there soon.

02:42:04.680 Sorry.

02:42:05.340 I just transferred to the university from a community college, so I got my associate,

02:42:09.560 so I'm almost there for my bachelor's.

02:42:11.200 Um, I want to start throwing my own festivals, and I also, I know you don't believe in astrology,

02:42:16.220 but when I'm 80 years old, I will be that astrologer.

02:42:19.800 Um.

02:42:21.040 Okay.

02:42:21.640 I mean, all right.

02:42:25.280 Yeah.

02:42:26.240 Do you want more?

02:42:29.480 I have a lot of goals.

02:42:30.060 What's your purpose with OnlyFans?

02:42:32.720 Um, my purpose with OnlyFans is just to grow from there.

02:42:37.960 Like, OnlyFans isn't just me, that's the thing that people need to realize, like, like you,

02:42:42.780 like, you said you have more goals, more ambitions, like, OnlyFans, and I do, I understand

02:42:47.980 your guys' viewpoint that OnlyFans is, like, it, once you start OnlyFans, okay, you're done

02:42:52.940 with, like, your career's over, but, like, I have different hobbies, I have different

02:42:58.000 goals, just like you do, and, like, like, it's like if I come on here and judge you just

02:43:02.640 for the whatever podcast, you know, and, like, that's all you're doing, blah, blah, blah,

02:43:06.440 blah, blah, blah, like, you know what I'm trying to say?

02:43:08.320 But the variable's not the judgment, the variable is what you guys do.

02:43:12.040 But you wouldn't say that's all judgment that you guys are saying?

02:43:16.700 Well, I, like, for example, think it's okay to judge people who make bad decisions.

02:43:20.880 You think it's okay to judge people?

02:43:23.280 Like, I think murderers are bad people.

02:43:24.880 Yes, it's okay to judge people.

02:43:26.300 I feel like that's something, it's like, oh my god, you aren't, like, yeah, I judge people

02:43:30.760 who murder people.

02:43:31.840 Murder, okay.

02:43:32.400 Like, I judge if something is objectively bad, and I think OnlyFans is objectively bad,

02:43:36.540 then, yeah, I would judge that.

02:43:38.000 Would that make me treat you, like, deny service to you or something like that?

02:43:42.820 No, but I would make a judgment.

02:43:44.600 There's a difference between judging and, like, actually reacting to judgment.

02:43:47.800 Yeah, I get it.

02:43:54.700 Okay.

02:43:55.760 That.

02:43:56.000 What did I miss?

02:43:56.800 Let me, oh, we're going to go around the table.

02:44:01.360 Unfortunately, I can't, I wasn't able to pull it up here, but Stifler in the chat, he was

02:44:07.140 asking everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.

02:44:12.280 So rate your looks on a scale of one to ten, starting with you.

02:44:14.600 Go ahead.

02:44:15.460 I don't like rating looks, sorry.

02:44:17.760 I know that's a stupid question, but it's kind of, like, everyone has their own viewpoints

02:44:21.580 on beauty and everything.

02:44:23.060 So zero scales.

02:44:24.180 What's your...

02:44:26.500 Scaling me?

02:44:27.540 Yeah, what's your own assessment of your own physical appearance?

02:44:38.280 Did my answer not make sense?

02:44:42.020 I'm rejecting your answer because that's...

02:44:45.280 I gave you leeway.

02:44:46.880 Ten.

02:44:47.440 Say it into the mic.

02:44:48.740 Ten.

02:44:50.140 Depends on the day.

02:44:51.220 Some days I feel like a one, and other days I'll feel like a ten.

02:44:54.340 Hold on.

02:44:55.300 Truth Bomb donated one hundred dollars.

02:44:58.300 Oh my.

02:44:59.200 I have lost brain cells listening to this emo chick speak.

02:45:03.220 I bet her IQ is max seventy-five.

02:45:06.280 Proof that stupid people go to college and learn nothing and think they are actually smart.

02:45:11.500 I agree.

02:45:12.620 She agrees with you, Truth Bomb.

02:45:14.240 I agree.

02:45:14.680 She agrees her IQ is room temperature.

02:45:16.700 I agree with the last part, not the IQ part.

02:45:18.980 I agree with the last part.

02:45:20.080 Okay, well, that seemed like a totality.

02:45:21.780 You agreed in the totality of the statement.

02:45:24.400 So you were saying, if you had to just give one number, though.

02:45:28.220 How you look, not how you feel, because you're saying some days I feel this.

02:45:31.480 Just your own self-assessment of your looks.

02:45:34.720 One to ten.

02:45:35.060 Seven.

02:45:35.660 Seven, okay.

02:45:36.780 Ten, still.

02:45:37.980 Same as last time.

02:45:38.500 Still, okay.

02:45:39.900 I mean, I don't know.

02:45:41.820 I have never thought about it.

02:45:43.180 I don't really know what I look like.

02:45:47.660 She's a ten.

02:45:48.740 You know, there's mirrors.

02:45:50.500 But like, it didn't give me like a number.

02:45:53.100 I just feel like it's really subjective.

02:45:54.700 It's kind of a lose-lose comment, like, answer.

02:45:56.880 Photographs.

02:45:57.420 If you say lower, you're kind of like fucking yourself over.

02:45:59.860 You say higher, then like people are like, oh, she's not a ten or she's not this.

02:46:03.340 I'll say ten.

02:46:04.260 I'm a ten.

02:46:04.780 Yeah, she's a ten.

02:46:05.880 Good job.

02:46:07.520 What about you?

02:46:08.400 I'll say I'm a ten.

02:46:10.440 Okay.

02:46:11.520 Love you.

02:46:12.420 I'm like a seven.

02:46:13.460 All right.

02:46:14.040 You're a ten.

02:46:14.460 What about you?

02:46:15.400 A six.

02:46:16.160 You're a ten.

02:46:17.340 I'd say I'm an eight.

02:46:18.380 Ten.

02:46:18.900 Like a seven.

02:46:20.200 Ten.

02:46:23.800 Well, oh, right.

02:46:26.760 I give myself a five.

02:46:28.200 You're a ten.

02:46:28.880 Did that go down again?

02:46:30.900 No, I think I said five when you were on that.

02:46:32.820 Was it?

02:46:33.220 I thought you said six.

02:46:34.580 I might have.

02:46:35.520 I gained some weight.

02:46:36.440 You got a dad bod?

02:46:37.000 Yeah, I gained some weight, so I give myself a five.

02:46:38.880 Like, what about the people that love dad bods?

02:46:41.600 Nice.

02:46:41.880 They might have a higher assessment.

02:46:43.440 Like, I like dad bods.

02:46:44.760 Cool.

02:46:48.760 Cool.

02:46:50.760 But, okay.

02:46:51.580 So, ten, ten, ten, ten.

02:46:55.420 He just raked you.

02:46:56.720 I know.

02:46:57.240 She said seven.

02:46:57.900 I said seven.

02:46:58.680 No, no.

02:46:59.040 Ten, ten, ten, ten, ten.

02:47:00.980 I'm not going to rate you guys, but you guys are not tens.

02:47:05.620 No offense.

02:47:06.180 That's fair for you to say.

02:47:07.620 That's a crazy thing to say.

02:47:08.840 That's your opinion.

02:47:09.600 Wait, why is that?

02:47:10.180 Who said that?

02:47:11.060 I think it's me.

02:47:11.980 You think that's a crazy thing to say?

02:47:13.220 I think it's a crazy thing to say.

02:47:14.340 For me to disagree that you're a ten out of ten in terms of your physical appearance?

02:47:19.300 I mean, you might be right in your head.

02:47:22.200 I just think it's a crazy thing to say.

02:47:23.560 But why would that be a crazy thing to say?

02:47:26.000 I wouldn't say it about you.

02:47:26.820 That's why it's a stupid question to start with.

02:47:28.740 It's not a stupid question.

02:47:30.420 It's not a stupid question.

02:47:31.540 It's a stupid question.

02:47:32.560 It's not a stupid conversation.

02:47:33.960 But, why is it a crazy thing to say, though?

02:47:38.120 I mean, it's rude.

02:47:39.380 How is it?

02:47:40.080 It's rude to say that you're not.

02:47:42.180 Well, you made us answer.

02:47:43.740 But, no.

02:47:44.260 How is it rude?

02:47:45.540 That's why I said it's a rude question.

02:47:46.240 How is it rude for me to say that I'm not giving you a rating.

02:47:49.920 I'm not saying you're a one.

02:47:51.140 I'm just less than what I said I am.

02:47:53.780 Yes.

02:47:54.020 How I see myself.

02:47:54.760 How is it rude for me to say that you're not essentially.

02:47:57.600 How is it rude for me to, like, essentially say you're not on par with the most beautiful women in the world?

02:48:04.860 Do you think that?

02:48:06.400 No.

02:48:07.140 But I.

02:48:07.620 Well, then how can you possibly be a ten if you're not on par with the most beautiful women in the world?

02:48:12.260 I'm saying just the whole thing is silly.

02:48:13.440 I don't.

02:48:13.740 Why?

02:48:14.980 I just don't think it matters.

02:48:16.240 I don't think it matters either.

02:48:16.660 Can I?

02:48:17.180 Let me ask you a question.

02:48:18.260 Do you.

02:48:18.700 How tall are you?

02:48:20.500 5'2".

02:48:21.500 Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?

02:48:23.700 Maybe.

02:48:24.520 Maybe.

02:48:25.140 I wouldn't look for it.

02:48:25.400 Would you prefer to date a guy who's tall?

02:48:28.200 Why is that?

02:48:29.440 Um.

02:48:31.020 Close.

02:48:31.460 The Brainesis.

02:48:33.560 The Brainesis donated $100.

02:48:36.380 Natalie 6.8.

02:48:38.240 Raven hair 7.

02:48:39.780 Used baggage 3.

02:48:41.320 Mama sand 2.

02:48:42.560 Obese blonde 2.

02:48:43.880 Bimbo 4.

02:48:44.920 A cup bimbo 3.

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02:48:50.860 A hard one for being brainless.

02:48:53.300 A.W.

02:48:53.780 Brainless.

02:48:54.400 W.

02:48:54.800 Brainless.

02:48:55.200 Okay.

02:48:56.020 I don't know.

02:48:57.200 Wait.

02:48:57.520 So you said you'd prefer to date a guy who's tall?

02:48:59.980 Yeah.

02:49:01.040 Well.

02:49:01.820 I mean you are making to some degree.

02:49:03.920 He might be a 10.

02:49:04.320 It might be shorter than me.

02:49:06.400 The whole rating thing I just don't agree with.

02:49:08.180 I don't think.

02:49:08.800 Does anybody agree with her that you disagree with the rating thing?

02:49:11.580 You think it's wrong.

02:49:12.480 I disagree with the rating thing.

02:49:13.620 I think it's silly.

02:49:14.300 I think it's silly.

02:49:15.060 To rate people on their physical appearance.

02:49:17.560 Yeah.

02:49:17.840 Because you're putting.

02:49:18.400 I've done that since like middle school.

02:49:19.280 Hold on.

02:49:19.600 We'll go around the table on this.

02:49:20.720 Is it wrong to rate people on their physical appearance?

02:49:24.020 You're putting a category of women of 1 to 10 and everyone has different like opinions

02:49:30.480 on what's beautiful.

02:49:30.840 So it's wrong.

02:49:31.340 So it's wrong.

02:49:32.020 Yes.

02:49:32.460 It's wrong.

02:49:32.760 Is it wrong?

02:49:33.540 Maybe in your head it's not wrong.

02:49:35.220 But to someone's face.

02:49:36.740 Wait.

02:49:36.960 What do you mean?

02:49:37.920 In your head.

02:49:38.400 No.

02:49:38.420 Is it wrong in general?

02:49:40.280 No.

02:49:41.160 It's wrong to say to some.

02:49:42.680 Okay.

02:49:43.040 All right.

02:49:43.280 No.

02:49:43.460 I'm saying it's not wrong.

02:49:44.580 Yeah.

02:49:44.760 What's the actual question?

02:49:45.780 Because now I'm confused.

02:49:46.400 No.

02:49:46.580 Is it wrong to rate yourself or rate people?

02:49:51.480 No.

02:49:51.700 I said it's not wrong.

02:49:52.880 No.

02:49:53.200 You said it was wrong, right?

02:49:54.480 I'm saying it's wrong to make us rate ourselves and make us give you an answer and then tell

02:49:58.220 us we're wrong about how we see ourselves.

02:50:00.000 Because we can't be wrong about how we see ourselves.

02:50:03.260 If that makes sense.

02:50:04.080 It makes sense.

02:50:04.660 You could.

02:50:05.300 You could.

02:50:05.860 You're right about how you see me.

02:50:06.820 You could be delusional.

02:50:08.400 And if somebody corrects you and says, well, that's actually not the case.

02:50:10.660 But it's your opinion, though.

02:50:11.480 Like, that's your opinion.

02:50:12.500 Do you think there's some degree of objectivity when it comes to beauty?

02:50:15.980 Yeah.

02:50:16.180 Like, for example.

02:50:16.860 It's not like a number.

02:50:17.940 Right.

02:50:18.340 Yes.

02:50:18.700 Some people will rate you differently than others.

02:50:21.120 But, I mean, can we all agree that we could take two people and let's say one is like a model and the other is a basement dwelling obese person.

02:50:35.620 A lot of models are funky looking.

02:50:39.060 Okay.

02:50:39.460 Whatever.

02:50:39.920 You know.

02:50:40.180 You know what I mean.

02:50:41.180 You know what I mean.

02:50:41.860 I'm just saying.

02:50:43.640 Let's compare.

02:50:44.700 Okay.

02:50:46.300 I'm trying to think of a guy who's, like, exceptionally attractive.

02:50:50.240 Timothy Chalamet.

02:50:51.060 I was just about to say.

02:50:52.400 I don't find Timothy Chalamet attractive.

02:50:53.860 I don't.

02:50:54.580 You don't.

02:50:55.220 I do not.

02:50:55.720 No, but Dune 2, the way he stepped it up a little bit.

02:50:59.240 The first one, I was like, hmm.

02:51:00.700 The second one, I was like, Kylie, baby, I get it.

02:51:03.180 He's a very conventionally attractive man.

02:51:06.360 I don't find it.

02:51:06.900 So is it wrong to judge people based off their physical appearance?

02:51:11.160 I guess that's the question.

02:51:12.260 It's not wrong.

02:51:13.060 Everyone does it naturally.

02:51:14.320 That's not what I was saying.

02:51:15.780 But, like, your objection to this question.

02:51:17.700 I judge people.

02:51:19.100 Right.

02:51:19.420 I'm sure you make certain distinctions in terms of who you'd want to date based off their physical appearance, correct?

02:51:27.180 Like, you'll just date anybody who doesn't care in terms of their physical appearance.

02:51:31.020 You have no preferences.

02:51:32.620 I didn't say that at all.

02:51:33.360 Okay.

02:51:33.960 So you could, for example, like, if there were 100 guys, if you were doing this as an assessment, would you not be able to, like, rank order them from, like, most attractive to least attractive?

02:51:46.920 Do you think you'd be able to do that?

02:51:48.700 For me, it's hard.

02:51:49.340 I'm very much a personality person, and that has a lot to do with it.

02:51:53.040 Are you on a dating app?

02:51:54.280 Yeah, and it's really hard.

02:51:54.980 What's the determination when you swipe on somebody?

02:51:57.320 Is it their personality or how they look?

02:51:58.740 Maybe they said something funny.

02:51:59.380 Or they said something funny to what I said.

02:52:01.300 I don't think they can say something before, unless you're looking at their bio.

02:52:04.580 They're, like, bios and stuff, though.

02:52:05.500 Do you read their bios when you're swiping on guys on dating apps?

02:52:08.560 Really?

02:52:09.120 Yeah.

02:52:09.500 Absolutely.

02:52:10.860 100%.

02:52:11.260 I mean, most of these dating, it depends what dating app, but if you're, like, Tinder, most people are not, like, going into the bio.

02:52:18.080 Maybe Hinge or, like, doing a little more, but.

02:52:21.700 I think that's what we're saying.

02:52:22.600 So you're saying if we had 100 guys of varying who looked differently, you wouldn't be able to rank order them in terms of, like, most attractive to least?

02:52:31.480 I think that would be hard.

02:52:32.140 I think I could pick a few out and be like, oh, they're cute.

02:52:34.260 But, like, I feel like comparing people is just weird.

02:52:37.980 Yeah.

02:52:38.660 For me, that's how I feel.

02:52:40.020 Everyone else can just.

02:52:40.680 I don't know where your argument is going.

02:52:42.660 I agree.

02:52:42.880 Because, like, if we did that, every single one of us would probably rank them differently.

02:52:47.160 Right.

02:52:47.420 Like, the whole point is that.

02:52:48.500 I would actually argue that there might be differences, but you would actually probably, if this is, like, a mixed bag of people.

02:52:56.620 A hundred people?

02:52:58.040 No, I'm not saying you would all rank them the exact same, but there could be, you might start seeding patterns in terms of how you would end up ranking them.

02:53:07.740 But so, it's just, you take such an objection to this one to ten scale, but women care a whole lot about literal numerical measurements.

02:53:18.740 Let's talk height.

02:53:20.760 Women care deeply about a man's height.

02:53:22.840 That's literally a numerical measurement.

02:53:25.780 Didn't we all pick the second option for that question, though?

02:53:28.740 Yeah.

02:53:29.140 I picked the first.

02:53:30.100 Yeah, but it was like, this guy's terrible, but he's physically attractive.

02:53:34.280 Right.

02:53:34.660 So, that kind of goes against exactly what you just said.

02:53:36.840 How?

02:53:39.940 Because you're saying physical traits outweigh the person.

02:53:43.100 No, that's not what I said.

02:53:44.160 You're saying, like, it's really important.

02:53:45.660 I said women care.

02:53:45.980 No, I said women care about physical appearance.

02:53:49.900 But, like, there's other things that outweigh.

02:53:51.340 Yes, I agree.

02:53:52.580 There are other things that are important besides physical appearance.

02:53:56.980 But don't sit here and tell me that you girls don't care at all about physical appearance.

02:54:02.260 That would be ridiculous and absurd.

02:54:03.800 I don't think anyone said that.

02:54:04.920 I don't think anyone said that.

02:54:05.940 Okay.

02:54:06.720 I think he's schizo.

02:54:08.280 You think I'm schizo.

02:54:09.760 Thank you for your contribution to the whatever podcast.

02:54:12.300 That was great.

02:54:14.100 That was great.

02:54:16.920 I would suspect most of you here do prefer men who are tall.

02:54:20.780 That's literally a numerical measurement.

02:54:23.780 Not too tall, though.

02:54:25.120 Okay.

02:54:25.500 All right.

02:54:26.180 Fine.

02:54:26.660 You don't want to date a guy who's seven feet.

02:54:28.380 I get it.

02:54:29.280 Eleven feet tall.

02:54:30.420 But when it comes to physical appearance, you guys make all kinds of us.

02:54:36.760 Actually, you know what?

02:54:37.620 Nick, pull up the TikToks.

02:54:38.640 I mean, don't we both, though?

02:54:39.680 Don't men and women both do that?

02:54:40.600 Yes, absolutely.

02:54:41.760 Okay.

02:54:42.280 Absolutely.

02:54:42.760 Nick, pull up the TikToks.

02:54:44.980 What?

02:54:45.560 What TikToks?

02:54:49.760 Nick, go ahead.

02:54:50.520 Play it.

02:54:50.860 Didn't you show this last time?

02:54:55.340 He's recycling.

02:54:56.720 Do you think, now do you guys think this is like, would this, you feel like misled?

02:55:01.460 That's catfishing.

02:55:02.740 Would you feel, play it one more time really quick just so they see the beginning.

02:55:05.720 Would you feel misled?

02:55:08.780 I disagree.

02:55:10.220 No.

02:55:10.880 He's happy.

02:55:11.200 It's like the same concept as like hair extensions and makeup.

02:55:14.740 Would you feel misled?

02:55:16.640 No.

02:55:17.300 Really?

02:55:17.660 I had 24-inch extensions before I chopped my hair off, like, same concept.

02:55:22.300 You wouldn't feel misled a little bit?

02:55:26.200 Not necessarily if it's going to stay that way.

02:55:28.580 He's going to keep it.

02:55:30.360 He's going to upkeep it.

02:55:31.280 Oh, so he has to keep it that way.

02:55:33.160 If he keeps it that way, yeah.

02:55:34.720 What about you?

02:55:36.280 I don't really get the question if I'm going to feel tricked.

02:55:38.140 Would you feel like a bit misled because of that?

02:55:44.180 Not really.

02:55:45.000 I mean, if I compare it to all the things we do, I don't know.

02:55:48.680 To me, it didn't seem like a huge difference.

02:55:50.720 Yeah.

02:55:51.220 Personally.

02:55:52.520 Anybody would feel a bit misled?

02:55:54.580 Oh, 100%.

02:55:55.300 So you're telling me that none of the girls here have a preference for men with a full head of hair?

02:56:00.060 You're just fine with men who are balding?

02:56:02.160 That would not be part of your calculus?

02:56:05.500 I like a full head of hair.

02:56:06.660 What's that?

02:56:07.280 I like hair.

02:56:08.080 I like a full head of hair.

02:56:08.460 Thank you for being honest.

02:56:10.320 I'm not not being honest.

02:56:11.640 But it's like, okay, what?

02:56:14.940 I said some guys look good bald.

02:56:16.320 Some guys do.

02:56:17.240 Right.

02:56:17.540 But you don't have a preference.

02:56:19.460 You don't have a preference for guys who have a full head of hair?

02:56:22.260 If I liked that dude and I was dating him and he's like, I'm balding, would that change anything?

02:56:25.820 That's happened to me before.

02:56:27.540 We're my ex.

02:56:28.260 Nick, play the other one.

02:56:29.680 Play the other one.

02:56:31.680 All right.

02:56:32.380 Go ahead.

02:56:34.140 Oh, there he is.

02:56:35.220 Okay.

02:56:35.760 Bald.

02:56:36.080 He's coming hot.

02:56:37.120 I'm not going to lie.

02:56:39.620 So he's got like a toupee, basically.

02:56:42.520 He looks like he's insecure.

02:56:43.740 He's got a toupee.

02:56:46.740 So, I mean, would you guys not feel...

02:56:50.040 If I saw him with no hair, I would date him.

02:56:54.140 I think that's so shallow, though.

02:56:56.000 Like, for real, I do.

02:56:57.060 I think because hair does not define you as a person.

02:56:59.920 If you like that person, like...

02:57:01.920 But are you denying that people just totally disregard physical appearance when making an assessment of who they want to date?

02:57:10.020 No, I never said that.

02:57:11.540 But you're saying, like, do you feel betrayed?

02:57:13.900 Or whatever the word you use.

02:57:15.080 What's the word you use?

02:57:16.160 Bamboozled.

02:57:16.480 Misled.

02:57:17.360 Misled?

02:57:17.940 Like, who cares?

02:57:19.160 It's fucking hair.

02:57:20.320 I like that word.

02:57:21.200 You wouldn't feel...

02:57:22.560 Okay, what about if...

02:57:24.940 Do you have a height preference at all?

02:57:26.240 Or don't care?

02:57:27.100 I mean, I don't really care.

02:57:28.240 I've always just naturally dated taller people because I was always around taller people.

02:57:33.260 How tall are you?

02:57:34.380 5'6".

02:57:35.260 5'6".

02:57:36.020 But you don't care about height.

02:57:37.620 But conveniently, all the men you've ultimately ended up dating happen to be tall.

02:57:43.120 I was...

02:57:43.480 It's funny because when we talk about height, women say, I don't care.

02:57:47.000 But then you ask them, what's the height of all the men you've dated?

02:57:50.580 Conveniently, they all end up being, like, six feet.

02:57:53.200 Well, I mean...

02:57:53.700 That's not true.

02:57:54.240 I would say, if I could say something, I will say I do like a taller man because I

02:57:58.100 am taller.

02:57:59.580 But all...

02:58:01.260 Or the two boyfriends that I did have were my height.

02:58:04.340 Okay.

02:58:04.920 I'm not...

02:58:05.200 Look, I'm not saying that women never date men who are shorter or whatever.

02:58:10.520 I'm not saying that.

02:58:11.300 But generally speaking, like, are we going to sit here and deny that women don't prefer

02:58:16.520 tall men?

02:58:17.980 I think some women do and some women don't.

02:58:20.520 Most women prefer tall men.

02:58:22.440 Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with that, but I'm six foot and I've been in four relationships

02:58:27.940 and three of those men were shorter than me.

02:58:30.520 They were 5'10 and I'm six foot and that was okay.

02:58:33.560 That didn't bother me.

02:58:35.100 I still don't think it would bother me either.

02:58:36.660 I think that's more of a symptom of you being in the, like, one percentile of women's height

02:58:42.760 and you're just...

02:58:46.080 It's going to be harder for you to find men who are taller than you.

02:58:49.620 I mean, my last boyfriend was 6'4 and...

02:58:53.120 Oh, well, okay.

02:58:54.720 But the other two guys were 5'10.

02:58:56.600 Yeah.

02:58:57.060 Which is the average male height.

02:58:58.600 Mm-hmm.

02:58:59.240 So...

02:59:00.180 We're talking a lot about physical.

02:59:02.920 Like, what about mentality?

02:59:04.800 Like...

02:59:05.440 What about their childhood?

02:59:07.960 Energy.

02:59:08.180 Energy.

02:59:09.480 Like, connecting with them.

02:59:11.740 This whole objection to the 1 to 10 scale, it's just, I find it interesting because

02:59:19.700 we all make judgment calls about the people that we're going to date and you can deny it

02:59:25.140 and you can say, well, I don't care about looks at all, but I mean, that's Kat.

02:59:28.440 I mean, no one said that.

02:59:29.580 Men care about looks.

02:59:30.640 Women care about looks.

02:59:31.440 But this objection to, like, the rating thing is a bit boggling to me.

02:59:38.200 Yeah.

02:59:38.280 I think the question's stupid because it's subjective.

02:59:41.200 It's not subjective.

02:59:42.980 You're asking me what I rate myself.

02:59:45.560 Okay, so if I showed you...

02:59:47.260 I'm trying to think.

02:59:48.480 If I showed you a picture of Brad Pitt when he's young and then a picture of Donald Trump

02:59:56.300 now, and I asked all the women in the United States to, who do you think is more physically

03:00:03.660 attractive?

03:00:04.580 You don't think there would be any objective basis?

03:00:07.320 Like, you don't think that comparing Brad Pitt in his youth to Donald Trump now, how he

03:00:13.240 looks now, you think that it's going to be 50-50?

03:00:17.860 No one ever said that.

03:00:18.840 But do you think it would be 50-50?

03:00:20.500 I didn't say that.

03:00:21.120 So we are able to make some degree of assessment about somebody's physical attractiveness, are

03:00:26.460 we not?

03:00:27.300 Sure.

03:00:28.600 So then how is it a stupid question?

03:00:31.040 Because you're not asking me to rate you, you're asking me to rate myself.

03:00:34.400 And then tell us that we're wrong.

03:00:35.940 Yeah.

03:00:36.200 But, okay, I'll...

03:00:36.740 There's a point.

03:00:38.180 There's a point.

03:00:39.060 Because I saw it coming, I knew when I said 10, you're going to be like, you're not.

03:00:42.180 Okay.

03:00:42.820 I have one more question, and I'll tell you why I asked this question.

03:00:45.940 It's just funny.

03:00:46.440 You have something?

03:00:47.140 Go ahead.

03:00:47.440 No, I also think the flip side can be equally...

03:00:51.580 The point can equally be made.

03:00:53.580 You could meet somebody that's marginally attractive, and then you get to know them, and then they

03:00:58.300 end up being extremely attractive to you.

03:01:01.460 So the flip side can also be...

03:01:02.960 Absolutely.

03:01:03.540 I mean, look, I'm not saying looks are the only thing that matter.

03:01:08.020 You can make up for it in a myriad of other ways.

03:01:11.500 Personality, status, et cetera.

03:01:13.380 Exactly, yeah.

03:01:14.360 But, okay, so here's another question.

03:01:19.780 Donald Trump is 10.

03:01:21.360 There you go.

03:01:22.640 Donald Trump's never coming on the podcast.

03:01:24.260 No, I compared him to Brad Pitt.

03:01:25.640 Okay.

03:01:27.000 All right.

03:01:27.860 W, Trump.

03:01:28.680 All else being equal, all else being equal, do you think you will be more physically attractive

03:01:34.640 in 10 years than you are now?

03:01:37.280 Go ahead.

03:01:38.640 If I'm physically...

03:01:39.800 Yes, yes, yes.

03:01:41.500 You'll be more...

03:01:42.140 So you're 22.

03:01:43.140 You'll be more physically attractive at 32.

03:01:45.400 Yes.

03:01:46.540 No.

03:01:47.820 Honestly, Asian don't raise them.

03:01:49.340 My dad grew up, like, as he got older, so...

03:01:52.820 What about your mom?

03:01:54.200 My mom looks good, too.

03:01:55.620 Huh.

03:01:55.840 So, as my mom, I'm just blessed.

03:01:58.020 So you'll be more physically attractive at 36 as compared to now at 26?

03:02:02.640 Like, looking at myself, I feel like I still kind of have a baby face at 26, so I feel like...

03:02:06.740 Yeah, you're a badass bitch.

03:02:07.880 You're straight.

03:02:09.760 You good.

03:02:10.860 Girl, you're going to look good until you're 50.

03:02:12.900 Yeah.

03:02:13.420 Yeah.

03:02:13.960 I think you're chill.

03:02:14.480 You're set.

03:02:15.360 You're set.

03:02:18.000 So...

03:02:18.560 What, Brian?

03:02:18.900 No, we'll go around the table.

03:02:19.980 We'll go around...

03:02:20.400 What, Brian?

03:02:20.940 I heard your answer.

03:02:22.000 I heard your answer.

03:02:22.620 I'll come back to that.

03:02:23.700 What about you?

03:02:24.420 I think it'd go either way.

03:02:25.460 I'm hoping so.

03:02:26.500 I hope I look better.

03:02:27.360 You hope...

03:02:27.740 What do you think, though?

03:02:29.580 Yes.

03:02:30.520 So you're 25, right?

03:02:32.920 You'll be more physically attractive at 35 than at 25.

03:02:36.020 Yeah.

03:02:36.120 Okay.

03:02:36.420 What about you?

03:02:38.500 So we're saying, like, at 35?

03:02:40.640 I think I would look prettier at 35.

03:02:42.120 You think you'll be more physically attractive at 35?

03:02:44.020 Yeah, because I'm 24.

03:02:45.220 I feel like I'm going to grow...

03:02:46.700 24, 34.

03:02:48.300 Okay.

03:02:48.460 Yeah.

03:02:49.040 You're going to grow?

03:02:49.860 I don't know.

03:02:50.320 I'm going to, like, just, like, grow in my body more.

03:02:52.440 I don't know.

03:02:53.400 Work on myself more.

03:02:54.360 I probably will look better.

03:02:55.600 So you're 39.

03:02:56.520 Will you be more attractive at 49 or now?

03:02:59.020 Yes, I think so.

03:03:00.060 You'll be more attractive at 49 than you are now.

03:03:02.620 I've grown up, so...

03:03:03.960 Okay.

03:03:04.380 What about you?

03:03:04.960 No.

03:03:05.980 What about you?

03:03:07.080 I think that, um, attractiveness...

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03:03:30.620 Can I get Abdul's contact information, please?

03:03:32.980 I need help.

03:03:33.420 This is Sparta!

03:03:35.440 Thank you, LPE.

03:03:36.840 Go ahead.

03:03:37.680 I think attractiveness, um, is kind of determined by, like, youthfulness.

03:03:42.040 Youthfulness, and, and not by everyone, but I, to me, what I think is attractive is youthfulness

03:03:46.880 and glowing skin, clear skin, long hair, um, so I think when I'm 36, I'm 26, I think that

03:03:53.580 I'm more beautiful now, but people can age gracefully and look beautiful 10 years from

03:03:58.120 now.

03:03:58.340 Some people look better.

03:03:59.060 I feel like that's what I was trying to say.

03:04:00.680 To clarify, to clarify, I'm not saying that in 10 years time, you're just gonna be unattractive.

03:04:07.720 That's, that's not the question.

03:04:08.960 You may very well still be attractive in 10 years.

03:04:13.880 That's not the question.

03:04:15.180 Will you be more attractive in 10 years is the question.

03:04:19.540 No, I, based off of what I just said regarding youthfulness, I'm 26, and I don't think that

03:04:24.520 I will be as youthful when I'm 36.

03:04:26.260 That's not to say I won't be attractive, but to answer your question, 26 is more youthful.

03:04:30.320 Sure.

03:04:31.100 Uh, Natalie.

03:04:32.000 Okay.

03:04:32.240 So, I think you answered yes, you answered yes, yes, yes, yes, so it was you five right

03:04:40.080 there.

03:04:40.860 Um, will you be more attractive in 20 years?

03:04:44.700 Yes.

03:04:48.200 I think my 30s.

03:04:49.160 Wait, genuinely, or are you just trolling?

03:04:50.960 No, yes, yes, sorry.

03:04:52.200 I feel like in my 30s, I'll peak.

03:04:54.720 So, no?

03:04:56.100 Not in 20 years?

03:04:57.380 I mean, I'll be more attractive than...

03:05:02.300 You can just see it in her face.

03:05:04.240 She's a badass bitch.

03:05:06.320 Next question.

03:05:07.540 Go ahead.

03:05:10.160 Um, right, I just want my face to, like, slim down a little bit.

03:05:13.420 Your face is slim.

03:05:14.800 You know what I mean?

03:05:15.940 Girl, get your perfect.

03:05:18.180 No, no, I feel like when I get older, like, that's what happened to my dad.

03:05:21.300 He, like, looks more...

03:05:23.100 I actually think men prefer, don't like that, like, super slim look.

03:05:27.380 No, like, my dad looks good.

03:05:29.020 My dad has a six-pack.

03:05:31.640 I'm not sure how your dad is.

03:05:33.300 Yeah, I'm just saying my genetics.

03:05:35.620 I'm saying my genetics.

03:05:36.420 Like, as he got older, he looked better.

03:05:38.060 So, I'm saying, like, as I get older...

03:05:39.760 You're 26-year-olds, excuse me, 26 years old currently.

03:05:44.360 You think you'll be more physically attractive at 46?

03:05:47.800 Could be.

03:05:48.720 No, no, no, no.

03:05:49.740 It's not the question.

03:05:51.400 I mean, I take care of myself.

03:05:52.960 I do get Botox.

03:05:54.640 I get my face done.

03:05:56.240 So, I mean, yeah, I could...

03:05:57.240 So, you think...

03:05:58.540 It's not...

03:05:59.220 Okay.

03:05:59.600 I wear sunscreen.

03:06:00.220 So, you think you'll be more physically attractive at 46 than at 26?

03:06:03.160 Okay.

03:06:03.600 Yep.

03:06:03.920 God bless my husband.

03:06:04.860 What about you?

03:06:05.400 Don't wear sunscreen.

03:06:06.400 You think you'll be more...

03:06:07.300 Yes.

03:06:07.600 Are you guys just, like, saying this just to be, like, combative?

03:06:10.420 No.

03:06:10.540 Or do you genuinely believe you'll be more physically attractive at 45 than at 25?

03:06:16.240 Okay.

03:06:16.720 What about you?

03:06:17.800 I don't know.

03:06:18.300 At that point, now I'm, like, kind of a lot older.

03:06:20.660 So, probably not.

03:06:22.240 Okay.

03:06:22.840 I'm going to say no.

03:06:25.220 No, absolutely not.

03:06:26.300 Okay.

03:06:26.600 You guys already answered.

03:06:27.800 So, don't you think it's a little bit delusional to think in 20 years you will be more physically

03:06:35.400 attractive than you are now?

03:06:37.900 No.

03:06:38.240 How is that not...

03:06:39.820 Are you guys just not aware of the effects of aging?

03:06:43.340 Well, if she does enough spells on herself, she could age backwards, right?

03:06:48.340 I also don't think aging is ugly.

03:06:51.100 Like, what?

03:06:52.160 Yeah, exactly.

03:06:53.820 And...

03:06:54.060 So, you're in...

03:06:54.960 Just to be clear.

03:06:57.140 Then why don't you draw wrinkles on your face when you're doing your makeup?

03:07:00.640 I think she means naturally.

03:07:01.700 Well, I...

03:07:02.500 Well, wait.

03:07:03.280 Well, what?

03:07:04.000 Like, if you're saying aging, like, looks great.

03:07:06.360 Well, I mean, like, if we're a wank, can we talk about aging?

03:07:09.460 Yeah, like, I'm talking about, like, actual real aging.

03:07:11.300 Also, wait.

03:07:11.320 I have a question.

03:07:12.020 Those of you who ranked yourselves at 10s over here, which I think was you.

03:07:15.260 Yes.

03:07:15.700 You, you, and you.

03:07:16.660 But you're saying you're going to be more physically attractive in 10 years, more physically

03:07:20.160 attractive in 20 years.

03:07:21.680 How can you possibly be a 10 now if you will be better looking in 10 or 20 years?

03:07:26.080 Because I feel like a 10 now, so I'm a 10.

03:07:28.060 $100, Yael Shelbier, Taylor Hill, Roran bin Hussain, Kylie Jenner, Bella Hadid, Kendall

03:07:36.060 Jenner, Gigi Hadid, Hailey Bieber, Kaya Gerber, and Jade Webber.

03:07:41.600 If you don't look close to them, you're not a 10.

03:07:44.880 Facts.

03:07:45.360 They got a lot of plastic surgery, some of those.

03:07:48.640 I don't know.

03:07:49.160 I don't know if I agree on that, but Kill of Cereal, I do appreciate it.

03:07:53.620 Wait, so, okay.

03:07:56.240 30 years?

03:07:57.760 Any 30 years more attractive in 30 years?

03:08:02.160 You don't want to hear from me, so I'm just going to shut up.

03:08:06.440 Okay, so, so basically, if you guys will be more attractive in 10 years, 20 years, if I

03:08:14.360 could wave a magic wand that could only advance your outer appearance to how you will look in

03:08:20.840 10 or 20 years with no impact on your health, would you take it?

03:08:25.360 No.

03:08:25.800 But I thought you said you'd be more attractive.

03:08:29.020 Wouldn't you want to be more attractive?

03:08:30.760 I don't trust whatever you're taking, giving me.

03:08:35.960 Oh, yeah, I'm down.

03:08:36.880 You're, you're down to, okay.

03:08:40.140 And my brain hasn't aged, like I'm the same.

03:08:42.340 I'm 25 or 11.

03:08:43.320 You're healthy, you're still healthy, just your outward physical appearance.

03:08:46.140 My brain, though, I'm saying, like...

03:08:47.320 Brain is, brain is the same.

03:08:49.240 Brain is the same.

03:08:49.740 Well, I want to age with my body.

03:08:52.040 Like, I want to be a lizard.

03:08:52.620 But don't you want to be, don't you want to advance to your more attractive self at 35

03:08:57.400 and 45?

03:08:58.720 I never said that.

03:09:01.980 Who wouldn't want to be instantly more attractive?

03:09:04.120 Well, I'm going to feel better about myself later when I'm wiser and more beautiful.

03:09:10.000 Sounds like a bunch of mental gymnastics, but okay, what about you?

03:09:13.780 What was the question?

03:09:15.240 If I could wave a magic wand, only advance your outer appearance to how you will look

03:09:18.580 in 10 or 20 years, because you said you will be more physically attractive in 10 or 20 years

03:09:23.200 with no impact on your health, would you take it?

03:09:25.400 Probably, yeah.

03:09:26.820 Huh.

03:09:29.740 Okay.

03:09:30.280 But then why do you get Botox?

03:09:32.740 I don't.

03:09:33.220 It's not having, like, wrinkles.

03:09:35.500 It's like...

03:09:35.980 Wait, can you scoot your mic that way?

03:09:37.420 No, but what he's saying is, he's saying he would expedite the aging process 10 years.

03:09:41.180 Scoot it, scoot it.

03:09:41.760 So, you would look 10 years older right now.

03:09:45.460 Oh.

03:09:46.400 That's what he's saying.

03:09:47.880 If you could wave a magic wand to look better, because your argument is you would look better

03:09:52.100 in 10 years, you would look 36.

03:09:55.900 In terms of my face slimming down, that was my answer.

03:09:58.680 He's the warlock.

03:09:59.340 But I don't want wrinkles.

03:10:00.200 I'm not going to say, like, yes, give me wrinkles.

03:10:01.840 But you can't cherry pick what that comes with.

03:10:04.280 I mean, yeah, so I'm going to continue to get...

03:10:06.360 No, no, no.

03:10:06.900 I said...

03:10:08.420 Okay, if I'm continuing to get Botox how I am right now,

03:10:11.760 and my face slimms down, I believe I will be more attractive.

03:10:16.860 Delusional.

03:10:17.300 Hunter, you're beautiful.

03:10:18.960 I'm just saying.

03:10:19.580 That was my answer.

03:10:20.240 You're fucking beautiful.

03:10:21.180 I'll even grant you this.

03:10:23.580 So, because just to be as charitable as I can with the question,

03:10:27.280 the magic wand question,

03:10:28.320 you will advance your outward appearance forward 10 or 20 years,

03:10:35.420 and it'll stay that way for 10 or 20 years.

03:10:39.120 So, it's not like, well, I advance it forward 10 or 20 years,

03:10:41.740 and then I just continually age,

03:10:43.580 because perhaps you can see that, well, in 30 years,

03:10:46.280 then I'll be less attractive.

03:10:47.400 So, we'll stick it in place.

03:10:50.220 We'll stick your outward physical appearance for 10 years, 20 years.

03:10:54.620 You would take your 40, how you look at 46,

03:10:57.680 and change it for how...

03:11:01.860 Swap it out.

03:11:02.740 Understanding your question.

03:11:04.100 I got lost there.

03:11:04.960 Okay, because all of you said you all think

03:11:07.480 that you'll be more physically attractive in 10 years or 20 years, correct?

03:11:11.860 So, wouldn't it then be you'd be better capable of attracting a partner

03:11:16.480 if we just advanced your outward appearance,

03:11:19.160 if we could wave a magic wand 10 or 20 years, right?

03:11:22.580 So, for you, you're 26, right?

03:11:25.640 So, we could snap up a finger.

03:11:28.200 You look 46, and you'll stay...

03:11:30.780 I thought you said 10 years.

03:11:32.900 36.

03:11:33.560 You said you'll look better in 20 years also.

03:11:36.000 I said maybe.

03:11:37.020 I didn't say yes to it.

03:11:38.960 That's what you got in order.

03:11:39.700 Okay, fine.

03:11:40.100 Fine, we'll do 36.

03:11:42.460 Wave a wand.

03:11:44.600 We advance your outward appearance to how you will look at 36,

03:11:49.560 and it'll stay that way for 10 years.

03:11:51.480 So, it's not like you're just advancing your outward physical appearance

03:11:54.380 in terms of your aging.

03:11:55.720 In terms of your health, nothing changes.

03:11:57.920 Do you take it?

03:11:59.080 No.

03:11:59.940 That's the most...

03:12:01.540 You're delusional.

03:12:02.860 I'm sorry, you're delusional, dude.

03:12:04.320 It's okay.

03:12:05.120 Don't trust what he gives you.

03:12:06.580 You guys are just delusional.

03:12:10.240 I don't know how else to say it, but...

03:12:11.960 I thought you were schizo.

03:12:14.000 I think that's you.

03:12:15.540 You're projecting.

03:12:17.080 Wait, are you projecting?

03:12:19.320 Okay, anyways.

03:12:21.120 Disregarding that.

03:12:22.360 It's all good.

03:12:23.080 I'll tell you...

03:12:23.920 Look, I'll tell you guys why I push back on this

03:12:27.300 and why I think it's important.

03:12:29.640 So, I think one of the important things when it comes to dating

03:12:33.740 is knowing what your league is.

03:12:37.020 Knowing where you are in the dating marketplace.

03:12:41.220 Because, I don't know if you guys know,

03:12:43.140 do you know any guys who think they're hot shit, but they're not?

03:12:46.620 Yeah.

03:12:46.940 Now, what if I told you that's what you are?

03:12:52.960 You think...

03:12:53.880 Because if you think,

03:12:54.780 I'm fucking a 10 out of 10.

03:12:57.140 I'm super fucking hot.

03:12:59.640 Here's where it gets dangerous for women.

03:13:01.760 Not dangerous in terms of violence or anything,

03:13:05.060 but here's where it gets dangerous.

03:13:07.580 One, it's just delusional.

03:13:09.820 Two, you're going to be chasing after

03:13:12.420 a certain caliber of guy

03:13:15.120 if you think that you're...

03:13:18.200 Oh, I'm...

03:13:18.740 This is my league here.

03:13:20.660 What ends up happening is...

03:13:22.240 Well, women don't chase after guys.

03:13:24.440 They don't?

03:13:25.560 But also...

03:13:26.240 Really?

03:13:26.440 Like a situationship dynamic.

03:13:28.000 Look, you're going to be pursuing men.

03:13:32.520 And this is why women are so upset by fuckboys

03:13:34.780 and guys that sleep with you,

03:13:36.580 and then that's it.

03:13:37.580 They don't want to give you commitment.

03:13:39.080 is you can...

03:13:42.420 Women can sleep outside of their league.

03:13:46.000 Men can't.

03:13:47.120 We get rejected on the front end.

03:13:49.360 So if a guy...

03:13:50.200 For example, me.

03:13:51.200 If I try to...

03:13:52.520 I can't get anything from a girl

03:13:54.760 who's outside of my league.

03:13:56.260 I can't get a conversation.

03:13:58.060 I can't get a date.

03:13:59.320 I certainly can't get sex

03:14:00.820 from a girl who's more attractive than me

03:14:02.680 who's outside of my league.

03:14:04.120 That just means you're insecure.

03:14:04.940 It's 100% true.

03:14:06.060 It has nothing to do with insecurity.

03:14:07.820 It has to do with reality.

03:14:09.540 What's your definition?

03:14:10.440 Now, I'm sure maybe you guys might agree with me, though.

03:14:12.720 There are men who will gladly sleep with you

03:14:15.660 who will never give you commitment.

03:14:18.160 Do you agree with that?

03:14:21.080 I don't think that's where we started.

03:14:24.640 Well, I'll explain it further.

03:14:26.620 I'll explain it further.

03:14:27.820 I'll explain it further.

03:14:29.840 No, it's truth.

03:14:30.940 But you can be quiet while I'm explaining it.

03:14:32.780 I got you.

03:14:33.700 So, as a guy, we get rejected on the front end.

03:14:38.300 Women tend to get rejected on the back end.

03:14:40.200 So, what ends up happening is you'll sleep with the guy.

03:14:43.160 Now, you might have...

03:14:44.920 Maybe on your end, you just want to keep it casual.

03:14:47.500 Perhaps that's the case.

03:14:48.620 But it could also be the case that you want to pursue this man

03:14:50.840 for a long-term relationship.

03:14:52.680 Here's where you can get into trouble.

03:14:54.140 If you have an inaccurate self-assessment

03:14:57.400 of your own physical attractiveness,

03:14:58.860 you might be trying to pursue men

03:15:01.800 that will never, ever give you commitment.

03:15:05.280 You're going to get stuck in situationships.

03:15:07.640 You're going to get stuck in friends with benefits.

03:15:10.180 You'll never get commitment from the guy

03:15:11.680 because men will gladly sleep with women

03:15:13.660 who are below their league, so to speak.

03:15:18.680 And so, that's why it's dangerous for women

03:15:20.740 to not be able to accurately assess,

03:15:22.720 well, is this guy outside of my league?

03:15:26.760 Because guys, like a guy who's...

03:15:28.700 Just to use the numbers.

03:15:29.460 I know you guys don't like the numbers.

03:15:30.880 A guy who's a 10 or a 9, for example,

03:15:34.160 he'll have sex with a girl who's a 6 or a 5.

03:15:38.540 Maybe even keep her around for friends with benefits.

03:15:41.280 She's never going to get commitment.

03:15:43.580 Now, what ends up happening,

03:15:44.940 because she thinks she can sleep with him,

03:15:47.300 she thinks that's her league.

03:15:48.760 So, then she thinks, well, he's a 9.

03:15:50.520 I must be a 9.

03:15:51.440 And not really how it works.

03:15:53.580 The way you know what your league is

03:15:55.680 is the guys who you can get commitment from,

03:15:57.860 who you get marriage from.

03:15:59.080 That's your league.

03:16:00.680 Ryan, can I ask a question for the panel?

03:16:03.700 For the women here,

03:16:05.140 how many of you, myself included,

03:16:07.220 have broken up with somebody

03:16:08.760 because they feel like they're not getting...

03:16:13.000 because you feel like you're not getting what you want

03:16:15.400 or what you feel like you deserve,

03:16:16.660 and so you break up with them?

03:16:19.440 I mean, everyone.

03:16:22.900 Like, for whatever reason,

03:16:26.160 you're just, like Brian said,

03:16:28.400 it's a situationship,

03:16:30.040 it's a friends with benefits,

03:16:31.300 it's...

03:16:31.900 he doesn't want to put a label on it,

03:16:33.520 and you've just been kind of going with the flow,

03:16:36.400 but at a certain point,

03:16:37.420 you've kind of had it,

03:16:38.760 and you've got to cut loose.

03:16:39.960 How many of the women here have experienced that?

03:16:44.200 Most, me, yeah.

03:16:44.820 Yeah, most.

03:16:46.100 I have a question for Brian.

03:16:49.220 Sorry.

03:16:50.160 Is it related to the conversation?

03:16:52.220 Yeah, about the rejection thing.

03:16:54.700 Okay, what is it?

03:16:55.780 So you were saying, like,

03:16:57.720 you get rejected by a lot of people

03:16:59.660 who are, you know,

03:17:02.060 not in your league or whatever,

03:17:04.160 or not you,

03:17:04.840 but in general, guys get...

03:17:06.840 Sorry.

03:17:07.580 In general, guys get rejected or whatever.

03:17:09.960 Like, um...

03:17:12.200 I'm just confused why you think that way.

03:17:15.120 Like, were you...

03:17:16.240 Did you...

03:17:16.800 Were you rejected a lot as a kid?

03:17:18.620 Oh, my God.

03:17:19.340 As a kid?

03:17:20.240 Yeah, because it's starting to...

03:17:22.100 Because, like, the whatever podcast

03:17:23.660 and the attention meeting,

03:17:25.740 it's starting to all click.

03:17:28.300 It's clicking for you.

03:17:29.620 Yeah, it is clicking.

03:17:32.180 What's clicking?

03:17:32.980 A lot.

03:17:36.220 Next.

03:17:39.960 Are you big on, like, talk therapy?

03:17:41.860 Have you done that a lot?

03:17:43.380 What?

03:17:43.860 Sorry?

03:17:44.420 Have you done a lot of talk therapy?

03:17:46.200 Like, do you think that's a good one?

03:17:48.200 Therapy...

03:17:49.040 I've done...

03:17:50.200 I've done...

03:17:51.140 Like, I've gone to therapy,

03:17:52.840 but, um...

03:17:54.200 It's more spirituality route.

03:17:57.900 I was just curious.

03:17:59.680 But also, like, therapy kind of involved,

03:18:02.040 like, psychology involved with it.

03:18:05.920 Brian, but I totally agree with what you said.

03:18:08.020 I think men get a lot of rejection

03:18:09.560 on the front half,

03:18:11.140 and then women will get into a relationship

03:18:14.060 thinking, okay, we got the man,

03:18:15.760 we got the bag,

03:18:16.540 but then we, for whatever reason,

03:18:19.440 are disappointed with the direction

03:18:21.040 of the relationship

03:18:22.420 and where it's going,

03:18:23.800 and so we'll be the one to cut the ties,

03:18:26.260 and so the men will get...

03:18:29.540 Sorry, the women, unfortunately,

03:18:32.260 will get the back end of the rejection.

03:18:35.680 What's your question?

03:18:36.860 No, it wasn't a question.

03:18:38.040 I was just agreeing.

03:18:39.600 You said that men get rejection

03:18:42.100 in the...

03:18:42.980 Basically, in the beginning,

03:18:45.600 and women get the rejection

03:18:46.800 at the end of it

03:18:48.140 because we will usually pull out

03:18:50.260 because we're not getting what we want.

03:18:52.460 So in a sense,

03:18:53.700 we're getting rejected that way

03:18:55.540 because our needs or our wants

03:18:58.680 aren't being met.

03:19:00.140 Yeah, I mean, it's very different

03:19:03.040 between men and women,

03:19:07.180 but if I can kind of bring it back

03:19:09.160 to my point that I was trying

03:19:10.880 to make really quick here

03:19:11.800 is that I would argue for most women,

03:19:15.600 in order for you to sleep with a guy,

03:19:18.560 he needs to be at least

03:19:20.180 physically attractive enough

03:19:21.700 for you to see yourself

03:19:23.700 in a relationship with him.

03:19:25.440 Like, he's at least attractive enough

03:19:27.480 for you to be in a relationship with him.

03:19:30.120 Whether it gets there or not,

03:19:31.680 that's totally separate.

03:19:33.720 Whereas men will sleep with a girl

03:19:36.020 of a certain physical attractiveness

03:19:37.900 that we will...

03:19:39.980 We instantly disqualify her

03:19:42.440 from a relationship.

03:19:46.640 But we'll sleep with her.

03:19:47.980 We can be in a relationship with her.

03:19:52.500 So, I mean, I don't know

03:19:55.140 if anybody disagrees.

03:19:56.440 If you ladies are just fucking men

03:19:59.140 that you just...

03:20:00.240 Their looks alone,

03:20:01.260 you would never be in a relationship

03:20:02.600 with them just based off their looks.

03:20:04.320 Does anybody...

03:20:10.400 Is there any pushback here

03:20:11.440 or you just...

03:20:12.000 You guys actually agree with me on this?

03:20:14.720 I already gave my opinion.

03:20:17.660 I agree.

03:20:19.360 Look, here's the difference.

03:20:20.720 As guys,

03:20:21.620 if we can sleep with the girl,

03:20:24.380 there's pretty high likelihood

03:20:25.500 we can get her in a relationship.

03:20:28.320 The reverse, though,

03:20:29.540 isn't...

03:20:30.020 Doesn't occur to me

03:20:30.640 that that's always the case.

03:20:31.820 Just because you can sleep with a guy,

03:20:34.400 it's not clear to me

03:20:35.220 if you can get that guy

03:20:36.120 in a relationship.

03:20:37.720 100%.

03:20:38.080 That's a crazy mentality.

03:20:40.540 How's that a crazy mentality?

03:20:42.080 I don't know.

03:20:42.560 I think you can get whoever you want

03:20:44.100 if you have your mind to it.

03:20:45.460 That's the most R-slurred thing

03:20:47.300 I've ever heard.

03:20:48.340 Okay.

03:20:48.680 You can get whoever you want.

03:20:50.600 Is that the manifestation thing

03:20:52.920 that you're talking about?

03:20:54.560 Doesn't matter.

03:20:55.300 Do your own research at this point.

03:20:56.900 There's no such thing

03:20:57.640 as manifestation.

03:20:58.860 Do your own research.

03:20:59.600 I think women try to sleep up.

03:21:01.820 If that makes sense.

03:21:04.220 That's fine.

03:21:05.180 But we don't necessarily...

03:21:06.280 That doesn't necessarily correlate

03:21:07.640 to a relationship.

03:21:09.000 Longevity.

03:21:10.560 Okay.

03:21:13.040 I don't know what the manifestation

03:21:14.500 stuff is about.

03:21:15.760 I mean, that's just a...

03:21:17.200 Do you actually live in reality?

03:21:18.820 You think you can get anybody you want?

03:21:21.480 What's your definition of reality?

03:21:23.300 Exactly.

03:21:31.120 Yeah.

03:21:31.620 Do you think that...

03:21:32.700 Is that like an own?

03:21:33.800 No, I'm just asking.

03:21:33.960 Do you think that was a W?

03:21:35.180 Exactly.

03:21:35.720 You're asking me the definition of reality?

03:21:38.380 No, it's an Alan Watts quote.

03:21:40.760 Like, what's your definition of reality?

03:21:42.840 Did you get a lot of detentions

03:21:44.120 when you were in high school?

03:21:45.320 Detentions?

03:21:45.820 Yeah, detentions.

03:21:46.680 I only...

03:21:47.960 I got...

03:21:49.480 What's it called when you're in...

03:21:51.800 Lunch detention.

03:21:53.740 I got lunch detention.

03:21:54.200 You got a lot of those.

03:21:54.880 And then I...

03:21:55.460 No, just once.

03:21:56.140 A lot of behavioral issues.

03:21:57.620 No, I was actually a really good kid.

03:21:59.540 What was your home life like?

03:22:02.500 Wild.

03:22:03.620 Was there a father in the picture?

03:22:05.160 Yeah, my father's still in the picture.

03:22:07.080 But he wasn't...

03:22:07.700 Are your parents married?

03:22:08.660 No, they're divorced.

03:22:09.900 Divorced?

03:22:10.420 Mm-hmm.

03:22:10.580 Okay.

03:22:10.800 I'm going to go over some of your pre-show notes here.

03:22:15.880 You said you were arrested for a felony.

03:22:18.620 What was that?

03:22:19.740 Xanax.

03:22:20.560 For what?

03:22:21.400 I had it on me.

03:22:22.800 You had it on you?

03:22:23.840 Mm-hmm.

03:22:24.140 I was very addicted to Xanax as a kid.

03:22:27.920 And I like to spread addiction awareness now

03:22:31.140 because I am 100% clean.

03:22:33.460 You're sober?

03:22:34.540 Yeah, that's why I'm not drinking White Claws

03:22:36.180 with everybody else.

03:22:37.780 And caffeine is keeping me alive right now.

03:22:40.800 But, yeah.

03:22:42.700 Is everyone drinking White Claws?

03:22:44.340 I was like, I got water.

03:22:45.620 I think two or three of the girls

03:22:47.640 had one drink before the show.

03:22:49.820 Yeah.

03:22:51.820 Okay, so you were in possession for distribution.

03:22:55.740 What?

03:22:57.000 For having it.

03:22:58.360 Because it was in, like, a script.

03:23:00.820 So, yeah.

03:23:01.240 Have you ever distributed any drugs?

03:23:04.140 Mm-mm.

03:23:04.600 Sold any drugs?

03:23:05.500 No.

03:23:06.340 You said going to school off Molly?

03:23:08.540 What does that mean?

03:23:09.180 Yeah, okay.

03:23:09.760 Like I told you, I was spiraling.

03:23:11.520 Okay, so when I was 17,

03:23:12.760 I started dating a guy who was six years older than me.

03:23:15.800 That's yikes.

03:23:16.640 So that's what started my, like, addiction issues

03:23:19.580 because he was bringing me all these, like, drugs and stuff.

03:23:22.660 You got addicted.

03:23:23.540 Yeah, exactly.

03:23:24.380 And that's when I, and then at, like, 19,

03:23:26.820 I realized, okay, addiction is a problem.

03:23:28.680 Like, I thought that I'm an addict.

03:23:30.600 That's it.

03:23:31.140 I'm done with my life.

03:23:32.060 Like, I'm going to die.

03:23:33.540 But I realized you can actually fucking live past this.

03:23:37.320 You can, you know.

03:23:38.620 And, yeah, that was a bad time in my life.

03:23:41.640 But that's why I'm also here.

03:23:43.520 I'm here for the addicts.

03:23:44.800 Like, I know, I don't know how you guys feel about addicts, but.

03:23:47.400 Not really a conversation I'm inclined to have.

03:23:49.900 You said you were in a mental hospital.

03:23:51.840 Do you care to explain that?

03:23:53.960 Yeah, so I was with that guy.

03:23:58.640 I got Baker Acted.

03:24:00.520 Do you know what Baker Acted is?

03:24:02.020 In Florida, if you say you want to die immediately, bake.

03:24:06.720 If you're going to refer to, like, just say you wanted to delete yourself or something.

03:24:11.200 Okay, okay, sorry.

03:24:12.260 Okay, you got Baker Acted, so you went to a mental hospital.

03:24:14.820 Yeah.

03:24:15.280 Okay.

03:24:16.380 Have you been diagnosed with anything?

03:24:19.540 Yeah.

03:24:20.020 What?

03:24:20.240 Um, anxiety, depression, and, uh, BPD, and then, uh.

03:24:28.520 Borderline personality disorder.

03:24:30.020 Mm-hmm.

03:24:30.260 Okay.

03:24:30.660 And then, um, I think that's it.

03:24:33.820 Yeah, that's it.

03:24:34.820 Okay.

03:24:35.560 Uh, you said that the guy who you were dating, uh, the, when you were 17, he made you pull

03:24:42.480 up on an old high school friend and you robbed him.

03:24:47.240 Yeah, he robbed him while I was in the front seat.

03:24:49.280 Oh, he robbed the guy?

03:24:51.020 Yeah, he had the gun to his face, and I watched the poor kid's eyes, like, trust me, I've paid

03:24:56.600 my karma for that.

03:24:58.520 Okay.

03:24:59.540 Um, you got in, uh, there's something about that.

03:25:02.760 You've been in a lot of car accidents.

03:25:04.880 Was it because you were driving?

03:25:06.980 Were you driving?

03:25:08.200 I was only driving two of them.

03:25:10.060 Um, okay.

03:25:12.080 One, and then the other one was my ex's fault.

03:25:16.140 Same ex one time realized no one put money on a bottle, so he just started shooting?

03:25:21.440 Yep.

03:25:21.720 A gun?

03:25:23.460 Yes.

03:25:24.140 Florida people.

03:25:25.580 Okay.

03:25:26.340 Yeah.

03:25:26.940 Stay away from Florida, guys.

03:25:28.600 Did he hit anybody?

03:25:30.040 Probably.

03:25:30.640 I don't even know at this point.

03:25:32.440 Okay.

03:25:33.400 Um, you, you crashed into a sheriff's house?

03:25:38.000 Yeah.

03:25:39.060 Were you driving?

03:25:40.560 Mm-hmm.

03:25:41.460 Okay.

03:25:41.940 Uh, you say you're obviously clean now.

03:25:45.440 Mm-hmm.

03:25:46.360 Are you, though?

03:25:47.220 Mm-hmm.

03:25:47.480 You seemed a little zonked at the beginning of the podcast.

03:25:49.900 What is zonked?

03:25:50.980 Out of it.

03:25:51.880 Out of it?

03:25:52.780 Yeah.

03:25:53.120 Or is that just you?

03:25:54.680 I have to feel like it's just kind of me, but.

03:25:56.640 Yeah.

03:25:57.680 Uh, let's see.

03:25:58.800 You said your ex, did you bite down on someone's lip, or was that your ex?

03:26:04.060 Yeah, that was my ex.

03:26:05.320 That was the recent ex.

03:26:06.340 He, he bit down on your lip?

03:26:08.120 Yeah.

03:26:08.460 Okay, that's abusive.

03:26:09.520 Um, you said you jumped a BZ with Jules.

03:26:14.880 Yeah.

03:26:15.560 Which is one of your friends.

03:26:16.580 It was more of me instigating it.

03:26:18.080 It was because at the time, it was when I first started my OnlyFans at 18, I didn't

03:26:23.220 want anyone in my hometown to find out, and then this girl was telling everybody, and

03:26:27.840 I got mad.

03:26:28.660 Like I told you, I was.

03:26:29.640 What do you mean you jumped her?

03:26:30.600 How did you jump her?

03:26:31.560 Like, jumping means, like, when someone.

03:26:34.400 I have a sense of what it means, but what did you do specifically?

03:26:36.960 Okay, so she, she lived in my same apartment complex, and she knew I was mad at her, and

03:26:42.300 she, I told her to come over, and she knew what type of time I was on, but I, I'm not

03:26:47.900 like that anymore.

03:26:49.540 So you guys fought?

03:26:51.420 I beat her ass.

03:26:53.040 You, you beat her ass?

03:26:54.940 Yeah.

03:26:55.300 Are you violent with partners?

03:26:57.880 No.

03:26:58.360 Have you ever been violent with a partner?

03:27:00.700 Um, my ex, the three-year one, he got it out of me.

03:27:04.580 I'm not gonna lie, he did get it out of me.

03:27:05.940 Who initiated the violence?

03:27:07.720 Him?

03:27:08.120 Mm-hmm.

03:27:08.440 But you, you said he would, would bring it out of you, but it was because he was violent.

03:27:13.600 Yeah.

03:27:14.140 Okay.

03:27:15.400 Uh, you, when you jumped, so you jumped a girl with your friend?

03:27:21.080 Yeah.

03:27:21.940 So it was a 2v1?

03:27:24.940 Joey donated $100.

03:27:27.800 Ladies, you are in your best years to have the most marital options.

03:27:32.340 Wait.

03:27:32.660 What specifically is stopping you from getting married in your prime?

03:27:37.880 Anything?

03:27:38.360 I guess I'm just waiting for the right partner that shares the same, um, religious views because

03:27:45.340 all the qualities I look for in a man, um, if I just extract it and, and try to look

03:27:51.000 for that in society, it all leads back to my religious views.

03:27:54.220 So it's like, um, just finding that partner for me and there's, there's no rush at this

03:27:58.960 point because I've done it my way and trying to figure it out and I didn't figure it out

03:28:03.300 my way.

03:28:03.900 So.

03:28:04.960 All right.

03:28:05.780 Hold on guys.

03:28:06.380 Because I, because some of these chats are about to fall off, I'm just going to pull

03:28:10.000 them up and then I'll come back to some of my stuff.

03:28:12.980 Uh, but peace starts with the woman.

03:28:15.720 She has to consent to it being made or otherwise it never leaves the bedroom.

03:28:19.060 Therefore women need to be held accountable first before men.

03:28:22.320 Sorry that I'm getting to some of these now.

03:28:24.220 Uh, they came in a while ago.

03:28:26.440 Uh, P I think this is like talking about the adult content.

03:28:31.620 Women start that, I guess.

03:28:34.160 Uh, let me read this one.

03:28:35.600 Um, or Natalie, could you read these?

03:28:36.980 Some of these are coming through.

03:28:37.900 Uh, Brian, will you accept the marathon challenge?

03:28:41.480 You versus me.

03:28:42.260 Quickest time wins.

03:28:43.460 Obviously you win.

03:28:44.460 You get a bottle of Johnny blue and I stopped trolling.

03:28:46.620 I win and I come on and debate.

03:28:48.240 Yes or no.

03:28:50.020 He keeps asking.

03:28:51.340 Yeah.

03:28:51.740 I've, I'm not going to do a race.

03:28:54.340 Um, I'm sorry.

03:28:57.000 Um, I appreciate your, uh, patronage though and your messages.

03:29:01.020 Thank you, man.

03:29:01.600 Thank you, the brunaissance.

03:29:04.640 Time for logic.

03:29:05.720 If you were all tens, you wouldn't even be on this podcast, let alone have trouble getting

03:29:09.500 a man to commit to you.

03:29:10.600 Time to come back to reality.

03:29:13.940 What's your definition of reality?

03:29:16.080 If you're all tens, it's a fair point.

03:29:20.280 Uh, we have this one.

03:29:22.020 If you can read this disgruntled.

03:29:23.760 Thank you, man.

03:29:24.360 Jabril.

03:29:24.720 Thank you.

03:29:25.380 Natalie is only 10 TVH question for the ladies.

03:29:28.520 Do you watch?

03:29:29.520 I think you mean anime.

03:29:31.240 Yeah.

03:29:31.260 All right.

03:29:31.800 Going around the table.

03:29:32.560 Do you watch anime?

03:29:33.340 Do you Natalie?

03:29:34.300 Um, no, I don't.

03:29:35.980 No.

03:29:37.340 Naruto.

03:29:39.020 No.

03:29:40.040 I've only seen Naruto.

03:29:42.200 No.

03:29:43.280 No.

03:29:44.180 No.

03:29:44.900 No.

03:29:45.560 All right.

03:29:46.440 We have this one.

03:29:49.000 Ask the women to read their intelligence on a scale of zero to 200.

03:29:55.200 Um, I'm really young, so I would say 50 because I have a lot to learn.

03:30:01.720 I feel like maybe 100 that'd be in between average.

03:30:05.820 That's a really broad question.

03:30:07.300 Um, if I'm thinking like emotional intelligence, I'm very high.

03:30:11.920 I mean, obviously I didn't know the answers to the world war questions.

03:30:14.980 We'll put that out there.

03:30:16.560 But, um, I didn't really pay attention that much in history because I was really science

03:30:21.440 focused.

03:30:22.160 Um, so I'm sorry.

03:30:24.120 I didn't give an answer yet.

03:30:25.100 All right.

03:30:25.720 You're meandering.

03:30:26.600 You're making your way to the answer.

03:30:28.340 I was just clarifying how I'm getting to my answer.

03:30:30.460 Go ahead.

03:30:31.020 Go ahead.

03:30:31.580 I'm going to say 125.

03:30:34.360 Okay.

03:30:34.660 I think you were saying before, like, there's so many different ways to be intelligent.

03:30:38.700 Exactly.

03:30:39.100 That's what I was saying too.

03:30:40.540 Yeah.

03:30:41.000 I'd be in the hundreds.

03:30:42.140 We all have more to learn, but I would also say a hundred.

03:30:46.980 I'd say 125.

03:30:49.220 Yeah.

03:30:49.680 Like 120.

03:30:51.180 I'd say 130.

03:30:52.100 I don't want to get trolled like the girls who said 10, but like one.

03:30:57.820 One?

03:30:58.660 I think you deserve a high number.

03:31:01.280 You're smart.

03:31:02.280 75.

03:31:02.920 Can you read this one?

03:31:04.480 Yeah, no.

03:31:05.860 I didn't mean for you to assume these choices were post-plastics.

03:31:09.520 Look at them pre-plastics.

03:31:10.900 No one aside from medical intervention should get plastic surgery.

03:31:14.640 If you're a 10 on panel, no makeup, please.

03:31:18.780 Hmm.

03:31:20.000 Well put.

03:31:20.720 If you look at those people before their plastic surgery, I mean, you wouldn't think that they

03:31:26.080 were a 10 on the street.

03:31:30.180 Does anyone agree?

03:31:30.820 I don't even know like half of the people.

03:31:32.520 Well, they just listed a bunch of different like models.

03:31:35.260 I mean, Kylie Jenner definitely was not.

03:31:37.340 Would she be a 10 without her plastic surgery?

03:31:39.380 I don't think she's a 10 with it.

03:31:40.800 Okay.

03:31:41.320 So.

03:31:42.660 But Shizzle, we have the king of DIY if you can read this one.

03:31:45.360 Ladies, you are in your best years to have the most marital options.

03:31:49.240 What specifically is stopping you from getting married in your prime?

03:31:52.580 I think he sent it as a super chat, but he also sent it as.

03:31:55.420 Did anybody else want to answer this one or what's stopping you from getting married?

03:31:59.560 I got married in my prime.

03:32:00.940 Best years.

03:32:02.220 Divorce.

03:32:03.080 Oh, okay.

03:32:03.700 I don't think I'm in my prime yet.

03:32:05.460 Yeah, your prime's at 45, is it?

03:32:08.060 65 maybe.

03:32:09.320 She's getting there.

03:32:10.360 She's getting to her prime.

03:32:11.960 She's going to be a.

03:32:12.820 Fine wine.

03:32:13.940 I took some milf.

03:32:15.560 Okay.

03:32:16.220 Thank you for your answers.

03:32:17.660 Up to 75K seems feasible for an established man seeking marriage.

03:32:21.780 Iron 5x that.

03:32:23.480 May I suggest a book?

03:32:24.520 I Kissed Dating Goodbye by Joshua Harris.

03:32:26.960 If a serious man you love chose to wait for marriage for sex, would you wait?

03:32:30.620 Nice stories.

03:32:32.240 Okay.

03:32:33.260 If a serious man that you love wanted to wait for marriage to have sex, would you wait?

03:32:41.840 Let's just say, would you wait for marriage to have sex, starting with you?

03:32:46.540 Go ahead.

03:32:50.000 No.

03:32:51.400 You've got to test a car before you buy it.

03:32:54.740 Yes.

03:32:58.020 Okay.

03:32:58.960 I agree with that.

03:32:59.920 I'm not religious, so I don't have any part of me that ever really wanted that.

03:33:06.720 I love Andrew Tate.

03:33:08.280 So you, yes, you would wait or no?

03:33:10.520 No, I would not wait.

03:33:12.120 I mean, that ship has sailed, I think, already, but with a new person?

03:33:15.980 Like with a new person, yeah.

03:33:17.060 I could wait.

03:33:17.680 Okay.

03:33:18.240 Yeah, I think if I'm a new person and I love them, I'd wait.

03:33:21.120 Okay.

03:33:22.560 No.

03:33:23.980 Absolutely not, no.

03:33:25.760 Yes, I would.

03:33:26.760 Yes.

03:33:28.000 Okay.

03:33:28.580 Thank you, Journey Life, for your question.

03:33:30.320 Appreciate it.

03:33:31.060 We're all caught up.

03:33:32.840 On our chats here, getting back to your criminal history, you said you jumped a B with Jules.

03:33:41.420 So like you both jumped her and she was alone?

03:33:43.640 No, I was an instigator.

03:33:45.060 I was there alone and then she just kind of jumped in.

03:33:47.440 It was just stupid.

03:33:48.260 Jules jumped in or?

03:33:50.180 I jumped, no, yeah, she jumped in, but it was my fault.

03:33:52.800 It had nothing to do with her.

03:33:54.000 Okay.

03:33:54.480 I feel like you live euphoria like in real life.

03:33:56.720 I did.

03:33:57.280 It's like, unfortunately.

03:33:58.960 Like she said, Florida.

03:33:59.780 I'm like Jules.

03:34:00.880 Unfortunately.

03:34:01.440 Florida, baby.

03:34:03.300 Okay.

03:34:03.520 Like the Molly in school.

03:34:05.020 Yeah, I privated that video.

03:34:06.780 You.

03:34:07.000 Because people were messaging me saying, I want to do Molly, like, and I'm like, no, please

03:34:11.100 don't.

03:34:12.080 You said that you like to degrade men on your SW platforms?

03:34:16.480 Yes.

03:34:17.340 You like to degrade men?

03:34:18.980 So, um, I'm not gonna promote this platform, but this is how I personally talk to men and

03:34:25.180 there's a lot of guys on there who have fetishes, like I told you guys, um, there's a lot of

03:34:30.260 fetishes out there.

03:34:31.380 Um, and they like to be made fun of their peepee size, so I'll sit there and make fun of them

03:34:37.440 for it.

03:34:38.420 And you enjoy it?

03:34:40.280 It's like a, like an act.

03:34:43.000 But you, you derive pleasure from degrading.

03:34:46.020 No, fuck no, I'm numb to that shit.

03:34:48.640 You said it's fun.

03:34:50.200 You said it's fun for you.

03:34:52.260 No, I'm numb to it.

03:34:53.720 But do you see a problem with being numb to that?

03:34:56.700 Um, yes and no.

03:34:59.360 So, yeah, you said yes.

03:35:01.460 Why would you allow yourself to do something that you have to numb yourself to?

03:35:05.220 So, because I'm numb to the, to the buyers.

03:35:07.820 I'm numb to the, to the view, not the viewers, but the buyers, the OnlyFans people.

03:35:12.740 I'm not numb to the people that I genuinely fall in love with and genuinely find a connection

03:35:16.780 with.

03:35:17.180 Of course not.

03:35:17.520 Because I don't date my OnlyFans people.

03:35:19.600 I don't date my SP people.

03:35:21.180 I don't date none of my buyers.

03:35:22.860 But I guess what my argument is, is why would you continue to do something that isn't fulfilling

03:35:27.460 you?

03:35:28.040 That isn't making you happy and joyous and, and bringing out the best in you?

03:35:32.460 No, it is, it is.

03:35:33.680 I guess it, I, I, did I say it wasn't making me happy?

03:35:37.020 No, no.

03:35:37.420 No, but it was implied in what you said by being numb.

03:35:39.620 Okay, no, it's making me happy.

03:35:41.000 Okay, so numbness is happiness to you?

03:35:43.120 No.

03:35:43.660 Okay.

03:35:45.340 You also said that when you were young, you would fill up Walmart carts with alcohol and

03:35:50.920 shoplifts.

03:35:51.000 Yeah, I was like fucking 15.

03:35:52.920 Basically?

03:35:53.620 Well, no, I wouldn't do it.

03:35:54.840 Or steal it?

03:35:55.360 I wouldn't do it.

03:35:56.220 I wouldn't do it.

03:35:57.280 My friends would do it.

03:35:58.320 They would fill up a cart.

03:35:59.700 While you were with them.

03:36:00.320 Because it was 24 hours before COVID.

03:36:02.260 Okay.

03:36:02.540 So they'd fill up the cart with beer and all this bullshit.

03:36:05.240 And then we'd, they'd run out of Walmart and we'd pick them up in the car and zoom,

03:36:09.840 zoom, zoom, and we out.

03:36:11.180 All right.

03:36:12.700 That's interesting.

03:36:14.000 Yeah.

03:36:15.500 You also said that you hate labels.

03:36:19.720 Yes.

03:36:19.820 Oh, that's related to the, yeah, that stuff.

03:36:22.460 Okay.

03:36:23.920 You said that you've seen one clip from the podcast.

03:36:26.580 Your friend explained to you the concept.

03:36:28.560 I kind of wanted to go, not knowing the vibe.

03:36:30.460 Yeah, that's what I was asking you.

03:36:31.660 You said, you know, he hates on OF girls and sex workers.

03:36:38.560 So I'm ready for that discussion.

03:36:39.960 I mean, what's the clip that you saw?

03:36:42.300 I don't even know anymore.

03:36:43.760 Oh, okay.

03:36:44.520 Yeah.

03:36:44.760 It was a clip.

03:36:45.800 Yeah.

03:36:46.180 I don't hate on women who do OF or sex work, but a lot of women come on fucking disrespectful,

03:36:54.100 kind of like yourself.

03:36:54.940 So, yeah, you might see clips where I'm like checking these people who come on disrespectful.

03:37:00.160 I'm actually, compared to like some other podcasts, and given like the cohort of people

03:37:04.920 I deal with, I actually think I'm fairly charitable when it comes to conversations.

03:37:09.760 I was barely like, I didn't know about it until my kick streamers joined.

03:37:15.460 Your Twitch streamers?

03:37:17.040 No, kick.

03:37:17.900 Kick streamers joined?

03:37:20.000 Yeah, I know the platform.

03:37:21.300 Oh, sorry.

03:37:22.680 Okay, I'm not seeking an apology.

03:37:24.760 No, I thought you were, I thought you accidentally thought it was the old one, the KIK, like,

03:37:28.440 because a lot of people always think that.

03:37:30.720 The text messaging one that people used to use all the time.

03:37:33.020 Oh, the messaging app?

03:37:33.820 Yeah.

03:37:34.200 Okay.

03:37:35.340 So that's what you, what specifically do you disagree on?

03:37:39.080 I mean, I don't think it's a, I think it's a suboptimal dating choice to date someone

03:37:44.460 who's involved in OF or sex work.

03:37:46.960 Is that what you disagree with?

03:37:49.000 You said, you said you don't agree with dating someone who does OF or you do?

03:37:53.240 I think it's a suboptimal choice for men to make.

03:37:56.940 And I suppose women too.

03:37:58.080 Yeah.

03:37:58.660 I wouldn't recommend women go and date men who are porn stars.

03:38:02.600 I don't have a double standard on this, but yeah, I think it is a suboptimal dating choice.

03:38:07.540 Okay.

03:38:08.500 And I'm not claiming sitting here saying I'm perfect, but.

03:38:11.600 Have you ever dated someone with an OF ever?

03:38:13.800 No.

03:38:14.180 Okay.

03:38:14.420 I was just wondering.

03:38:16.200 And actually I've, I've even stated that so long as they've not done, uh, and I'm, I

03:38:23.340 mean, it's still a suboptimal dating choice, but if there was like some girl and she did

03:38:30.080 solo content, maybe conceivably, maybe, but there's other options out there too.

03:38:36.580 Of course.

03:38:36.960 But I haven't.

03:38:37.880 So.

03:38:38.880 Yeah.

03:38:39.100 I was just wondering.

03:38:40.400 But is that your contention?

03:38:42.180 What do you mean?

03:38:42.860 My contention of what?

03:38:43.800 That I am, I advise men to not date women who are involved in OnlyFans.

03:38:50.940 Um, that's what I thought, but I guess not anymore.

03:38:54.920 What do you mean?

03:38:55.520 That's what you thought.

03:38:56.140 I just stated that.

03:38:56.560 Like before I came here.

03:38:58.620 Okay.

03:38:59.020 Oh, so you do still believe that?

03:39:03.160 Still believe that.

03:39:04.840 That.

03:39:05.140 Never getting pegged underscore Minnesota donated $100.

03:39:09.800 Two bulls struck down a path through life.

03:39:12.800 Young one, I'm a run down, bang me a cow.

03:39:15.640 Old bull, I'll walk down and bang em all.

03:39:18.680 Fluzzies work with brain him wise.

03:39:21.100 Strumpets LR 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 4, 3.

03:39:27.420 Strumpets?

03:39:27.940 It's gusto, meow, foo, meow, and boy.

03:39:32.200 I love that word.

03:39:33.360 He wants you to meow.

03:39:34.360 Don't do it.

03:39:34.860 Don't do it, Gustavo.

03:39:35.840 Do it.

03:39:36.420 You got to do a champagne pop if you want Gustavo to meow.

03:39:40.540 All right.

03:39:41.040 We have central limit theorem.

03:39:42.560 Can you read this one?

03:39:43.540 This panel is wild.

03:39:45.000 Half of them claim to be tens.

03:39:46.700 One claims the 40 IQ, not even intellectually functioning.

03:39:50.420 Another claims 175 IQ, higher than Einstein.

03:39:53.340 What the F is this panel?

03:39:54.380 Oh, I think that's you.

03:39:55.080 I wasn't saying 175 IQ.

03:39:56.880 I thought they were just going with like an arbitrary scale.

03:39:59.340 It wasn't that.

03:40:00.100 It wasn't IQ.

03:40:01.100 They didn't ask IQ.

03:40:02.180 They asked on a scale.

03:40:03.300 I don't think I might IQ.

03:40:05.340 Is that even possible?

03:40:06.040 It is a fair point.

03:40:06.920 He did not say it was an IQ scale.

03:40:08.780 It was from zero to 200.

03:40:10.740 Although, isn't that typically what the range is for?

03:40:14.340 Well, then we also touched on there's multiple things to consider.

03:40:17.160 Can you have a zero IQ?

03:40:19.320 Would you have to be like a vegetable, basically?

03:40:21.280 NPC.

03:40:21.840 A baby.

03:40:22.300 No, a vegetable.

03:40:23.540 NPC.

03:40:24.340 Yeah, like brain dead.

03:40:25.520 Oh, okay.

03:40:26.100 A baby.

03:40:26.560 Probably.

03:40:27.400 Cool.

03:40:28.680 Let's see here.

03:40:29.460 Thank you for the roses.

03:40:30.620 Thank you for the roses.

03:40:31.720 I need to get up here momentarily.

03:40:34.080 Actually, wait.

03:40:34.600 Before I do that, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:40:36.840 Nick, if you can pull up Twitch.

03:40:38.200 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:40:39.960 There's 1,500 of you viewing.

03:40:42.660 If you're not following, can you guys just do me a favor?

03:40:44.960 Just click the little follow button.

03:40:46.880 We're trying to get a follow.

03:40:48.360 Get our followers up on Twitch.

03:40:50.500 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

03:40:52.020 Appreciate it.

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03:40:57.700 free, easy way to support the show every single month if there's a little Twitch Prime

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03:41:06.460 Thank you for the follow.

03:41:07.040 Thank you for all the follows.

03:41:08.700 Okay, Nick, X out of that message.

03:41:10.620 Um, Cheese McGee, thank you for the follow, man.

03:41:13.720 Appreciate it.

03:41:14.300 Thank you for all the follows, guys.

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03:41:34.200 Uh, thank you guys.

03:41:34.920 We'll check back in on this in a little bit.

03:41:36.220 Appreciate all your support over there on Twitch.

03:41:38.320 Oh, uh, nah, it's okay.

03:41:40.000 I need to get up really quick.

03:41:41.900 Uh, Natalie, do you have a question?

03:41:43.680 You got anything for the ladies?

03:41:45.640 Oh my gosh.

03:41:46.880 Uh, can we talk about, like, feminism stuff?

03:41:50.160 I think that's a great idea.

03:41:51.980 Maybe you, if you can go around the table.

03:41:54.460 Are you a feminist?

03:41:56.380 Are you a feminist?

03:41:57.640 Or we could go to Trump stuff.

03:41:59.700 I think feminism.

03:42:00.600 Okay, very feminist.

03:42:01.540 Yeah.

03:42:03.760 Um, no answer.

03:42:05.660 You can't, okay, no, no, no, no, no.

03:42:07.000 We're not, we're not gonna do that.

03:42:08.300 Uh, fuck.

03:42:11.020 Yes.

03:42:15.460 Um, I guess.

03:42:18.320 I mean, what, like, what's your definition of it?

03:42:20.560 Like, that they believe women are higher?

03:42:23.580 Well, what's, what would be your definition?

03:42:25.860 That women are equal.

03:42:28.200 That's how I'm in.

03:42:29.060 Yeah.

03:42:30.940 I'd say no.

03:42:32.940 Yes, I'm a feminist.

03:42:33.880 Yes.

03:42:35.940 Yes.

03:42:38.020 Yes, moderately.

03:42:39.680 Yeah.

03:42:40.060 No, I'm not.

03:42:41.940 Not at all.

03:42:43.060 So you guys think being a feminist means that you think men and women are equal?

03:42:47.060 That's your definition?

03:42:48.520 What do you guys think the definition of feminism is?

03:42:50.600 No.

03:42:52.840 I didn't mean to say that's my definition, but there's different levels to it.

03:42:56.200 There's extreme feminists, and then more modern.

03:42:58.300 That's what I was saying.

03:42:59.460 That's what I was saying.

03:42:59.480 That's what I was like.

03:43:00.000 Yes, I am.

03:43:00.520 Yes, I am.

03:43:01.020 Well, I guess, so I guess my take on feminism and why I'm not a feminist is because I think

03:43:06.360 that the balance of masculine and femininity is so beautiful, and I can't do a lot of

03:43:12.220 things that a man can do, and a man can't do a lot of things that I can do, and I think

03:43:15.600 that's a beautiful combination to have a partner that can complement you.

03:43:19.380 So that's really important to me, and I don't think we should try to compete or be something

03:43:25.080 we're not meant to be, biologically especially.

03:43:27.480 Would you date a man who didn't identify himself as a feminist?

03:43:31.620 Yes.

03:43:32.640 Yes.

03:43:33.780 No.

03:43:35.100 Why not?

03:43:35.960 Well, for me, I think feminism is just about us all having the same amount of rights.

03:43:41.020 What rights do women not have that men have?

03:43:44.560 I mean, just, I mean, where do you think there's inequality in society between men and

03:43:52.220 women?

03:43:53.600 Well, I just mean, like, it's, because all the transgender men are coming in.

03:43:58.580 Fair point there.

03:43:59.140 That is a hot topic.

03:44:00.440 Well, just like, I mean, women in sports in general, I think, get paid less because there's

03:44:05.260 less viewers for women in sports.

03:44:06.600 Well, that's why they get paid less, because there's less viewers.

03:44:09.460 Right, but we also, okay.

03:44:10.660 I'm just saying my definition of it is really broad.

03:44:16.160 I agree with her.

03:44:17.140 And if someone didn't think...

03:44:18.200 Okay, wait, but back, so no one can give an example of where women don't have the same

03:44:22.500 rights as men, but that's why you think we should, or that's why you wouldn't date a

03:44:25.820 man who doesn't identify as a feminist, but you can't give one example of where women

03:44:29.820 and men aren't equal, except for women getting paid less in sports, but you just admitted it's

03:44:34.220 because they get less views?

03:44:35.640 Yeah, but I also don't think just because they get less views, should that mean they should

03:44:39.140 get paid less, you know what I mean?

03:44:41.900 So you think that if people bring in less...

03:44:44.100 Almost more championships than men, sometimes.

03:44:48.820 You're saying, specifically in the context of USA teams competing on the international

03:44:55.460 stage, like female teams perform better than male teams, so they should make more money,

03:44:59.580 even though they bring in less sponsorships, viewerships, and promotional deals?

03:45:04.420 Yes.

03:45:04.840 And how is that financially feasible?

03:45:07.340 I think that they should still be paid fairly for all the work that they put in.

03:45:10.800 So fairly is just because they're women doing the same thing.

03:45:13.860 It has nothing to do with the economics or finances of running a business.

03:45:17.560 Just for the sake of gender equality, we should just give women more money because they're women?

03:45:22.540 So I think what you're arguing is for equity and not equality, because women have equality.

03:45:26.760 Women have the opportunity to play sports, but what you're saying is you want the equity

03:45:30.120 to be the same as the equity within a man's or a male sport, and financially, economically,

03:45:37.000 unfortunately, the world just doesn't work like that, and that's why it is the way it

03:45:40.560 is.

03:45:40.800 Also, to extrapolate that men and women are not equal, and the one anecdotal example that

03:45:45.960 you sort of debunked and gave was like a niche-ish issue of women's sports, is there

03:45:50.380 anything that maybe affects more than like the maybe collective thousand, ten thousand women

03:45:55.820 in the United States who are professional athletes?

03:45:57.820 I don't know.

03:45:59.460 So I'm just, I'm asking this curious, I just, I mean this genuinely.

03:46:04.140 Like, I know it's the normal thing to say you're a feminist, right?

03:46:07.760 Like, if you don't say it, maybe you get pushback on a college campus, or it's just sort of like

03:46:11.960 the normal thing to do.

03:46:13.340 I feel like most women probably say, oh yeah, I'm a feminist, because that means men and

03:46:16.640 women are equal.

03:46:17.120 But it sounds like you don't really have like a very well thought out explanation as

03:46:23.480 to why you identify as one.

03:46:25.320 So like, where do you think that programming comes from, or why do you identify?

03:46:29.140 I guess I would say I'm a feminist, just because I just think like girls should support like

03:46:33.840 other girls, and just like whatever their endeavors may be in life.

03:46:38.260 That's my answer.

03:46:39.760 So it's not that men and women are unequal in society?

03:46:44.020 No.

03:46:44.300 Well, I mean, I do think that they are unequal biologically, yes.

03:46:47.700 I think they're unequal, because there's more things men can do.

03:46:50.960 So if they're unequal biologically, isn't that why there's the pay disparity, right?

03:46:54.820 Because people would rather watch male sports, because male athletes typically, even at like

03:46:58.520 a college level, can outperform some of the most elite female athletes.

03:47:02.500 High school.

03:47:03.300 High school, middle school.

03:47:04.260 High school.

03:47:04.620 Yeah.

03:47:06.140 Again, sports I think is a niche example, but like, what's, I mean, anyone on the panel

03:47:12.280 who said they're feminists, can you give me one way that men and women aren't equal in

03:47:16.720 today's society?

03:47:18.620 Isn't there a...

03:47:20.000 Don't say pay gap.

03:47:21.460 Don't say wage gap.

03:47:22.500 I was just going to say that, yes.

03:47:24.520 So go ahead.

03:47:25.520 Enlighten this.

03:47:26.140 So that number that you're quoting is they took the average of all the wages that men

03:47:34.540 who are basically employees or work, aren't just, you know, doing a hobby at home, little

03:47:40.000 small business.

03:47:41.360 Men, women didn't time control any variables for time, education, salary, time spent in

03:47:47.380 the job, what the job is, and they just averaged it.

03:47:50.460 They didn't control for anything.

03:47:51.540 Now, I'm no fan of sociological studies, and frankly, this is why, because they don't control

03:47:55.540 for a lot of variables, but they averaged it, and then they said, well, women make 73 cents

03:47:59.980 on a dollar, but if you actually adjust for a lot of those variables in some of the more

03:48:04.180 recent studies they've done, they've actually found that the pay gap diminishes virtually

03:48:07.800 to zero, and in a lot of urban areas, women actually tend to outperform men, and frankly,

03:48:12.620 if you get into the entire DEI push in most of corporate America, I think you could even

03:48:17.460 start to say that underqualified women and other forms of minorities, and women aren't

03:48:21.740 a minority, are overpaid in terms of their credentials and qualifications for a job, but

03:48:27.020 the pay gap just does not exist at all, and I would ask you this, if you guys think the

03:48:30.860 wage gap exists, if Brian could hire the two of us and get away with paying, hint, get away

03:48:36.940 with paying me 75% less, why wouldn't he do that, and why wouldn't the entire workforce

03:48:42.040 be basically all female?

03:48:43.240 Like, there's this great loophole that corporate America has that you just, like, get to save

03:48:47.420 25% on expenses if you hire women.

03:48:51.860 True.

03:48:53.160 So does the wage gap exist?

03:48:55.480 I just think you're brainwashed.

03:48:57.680 You think I'm brainwashed?

03:48:58.800 You just said you're a feminist, and you can't even give me one way to explain why you are.

03:49:03.360 That's all I had to say.

03:49:05.280 I just think you're brainwashed.

03:49:06.400 Hey, feminism to me means that I feel empowered, okay?

03:49:11.100 Like, I just feel like, uh, I feel like women should be able to exercise their independence.

03:49:16.920 That's, uh, I mean, there's a lot of...

03:49:19.580 How can you not exercise your independence in today's society?

03:49:22.600 Um, I just feel like that there's a lot of social norms that, uh, that, I don't know

03:49:31.880 if I'm best explaining this, but, I mean, I, I think that there is a lot of, um, expectations

03:49:39.460 for women to behave a certain way, and, um, I think, like, pushing out of those, those norms

03:49:46.880 or those cultural norms is, um...

03:49:48.600 Are there not expectations for men to behave a certain way, too?

03:49:51.900 Yes, there are.

03:49:53.060 Absolutely.

03:49:54.000 Uh, but when I say that I'm a feminist, I mean, like, I feel like, like, females are empowered.

03:49:59.920 That's, that's what that means to me.

03:50:02.000 But implied in that, I feel like, is that there are societal forces that are stripping

03:50:06.180 you away of your empowerment, so I guess what I'm saying is, wage gap aside, how are you

03:50:10.420 not empowered?

03:50:11.620 I will, I would almost argue it's easier to start a business in America as a woman.

03:50:15.040 You have preferential treatment when it comes to loans, uh, preferential hiring processes,

03:50:19.380 um, literally just because you're a woman, women are the majority of college graduates.

03:50:23.640 Um, I mean, life, being a, a woman, I feel like, in some ways, kind of life on easy mode

03:50:29.320 if you play into the corporate structure, so how are you not, I mean, they literally have

03:50:34.840 empowerment programs that they don't allow men, let alone straight white men in, so there's

03:50:39.840 literally a multi-billion dollar corporate push to empower women, so how are you not

03:50:45.580 empowered?

03:50:48.000 I, I'm just saying, like, I, I am a proponent of, of feeling empowered.

03:50:51.720 I'm a proponent of female empowerment, too.

03:50:54.080 People say my boss is a misogynist, and he is a female co-host, but I think female empowerment

03:50:59.040 doesn't come from pretending that there are issues in society, saying that we're unequal to

03:51:04.660 men, and I think if you guys all consider, you know, you think I'm brainwashed, you can think

03:51:09.120 that, but you also espouse an ideology that you can't even give me literally one example

03:51:15.560 why you actually believe it, let alone define it, but you just slap that label on, because

03:51:19.760 that's what mainstream society's told you to believe, so I think you're actually the

03:51:23.980 one who's brainwashed.

03:51:24.820 I'm brainwashed.

03:51:26.120 Girl, you are so based.

03:51:28.340 Thank you.

03:51:29.740 Do you want to actually, aside from just insulting her, do you want to actually present an argument

03:51:34.440 for why you think she's brainwashed?

03:51:35.820 Um, I'm just listening to everything she's saying, and I'm getting the knowledge in,

03:51:42.660 and I just...

03:51:43.440 Do you want to raise actual objections, or do you want to just insult her?

03:51:46.640 Um, no, because I think, I don't think I should bring it up on this podcast.

03:51:49.840 You can bring it up, why not?

03:51:50.880 Is it an essay?

03:51:51.720 It's just too deep and personal.

03:51:53.700 It's related to feminism?

03:51:59.360 Yeah.

03:52:00.840 It's too deep and personal.

03:52:04.340 Oh, okay?

03:52:05.940 I'm still waiting for one example.

03:52:07.440 All right, well, Glant, wait, so just...

03:52:09.040 Can I say something?

03:52:10.560 Actually, yeah, go ahead, then I have a couple questions.

03:52:13.100 I was going to say, you seem to be really updated on, like, recent studies that show there

03:52:18.320 may not be a wage gap, but there's always outlying situations, like, I have experience

03:52:23.460 being paid less than my male co-workers, even though we're working the same position.

03:52:26.920 Well, you're lucky that you live in a country where there's codified legislation that would

03:52:30.060 allow you to sue and get your rightful money.

03:52:33.220 I am, but I'm just saying I have experience.

03:52:35.140 Can we dive deep, a little deeper into that?

03:52:37.020 What was the job?

03:52:38.240 I worked at a boba and cheese shop in high school.

03:52:43.480 And you guys both started at the exact same time?

03:52:46.980 No, I started before.

03:52:48.900 You started before?

03:52:49.640 A couple weeks before, same position, and he was being paid $2 more an hour than me.

03:52:54.220 Did he have more education?

03:52:55.660 No.

03:52:56.200 I had the same experience.

03:52:57.500 Was the job...

03:52:58.240 There was no difference in the job title?

03:53:00.220 No.

03:53:01.320 Did you ask your boss why the discrepancy?

03:53:05.500 No, I did not.

03:53:07.680 Is it possible that he negotiated his salary and you didn't?

03:53:12.640 No.

03:53:13.340 They just gave it to him?

03:53:14.740 Yeah.

03:53:15.420 Okay.

03:53:16.640 100%.

03:53:17.040 They do that.

03:53:18.020 And you said it was a boba shop?

03:53:20.420 Yeah.

03:53:20.800 Was the boss a male or a female?

03:53:22.520 It was a female.

03:53:23.460 Okay.

03:53:23.880 Oh, well...

03:53:25.040 There you have it.

03:53:27.660 Okay.

03:53:28.620 So, one other question.

03:53:30.980 Was there any expectation of, like, lifting anything heavy?

03:53:34.160 No.

03:53:34.620 There was no, like, requirement to lift...

03:53:36.300 I mean, if there's a lot of boba, maybe.

03:53:38.400 And she could probably lift.

03:53:39.400 I don't know.

03:53:39.960 I mean, it's a bit anecdotal.

03:53:41.280 And we can lift.

03:53:42.020 I don't know if that specific example is evidence of...

03:53:44.940 I'm just kidding.

03:53:45.680 But did you ask for a promote?

03:53:47.000 Did you ask to get paid more or paid equivalently?

03:53:50.140 No, I didn't ask about it.

03:53:50.980 And that right there is the other reason why I think in some ways the wage gap exists.

03:53:54.060 Because men and women are different and asking for raises.

03:53:56.980 Yeah, I agree.

03:53:57.740 That's true.

03:53:58.320 Because I've also experienced differences in pay when I was in sales, in tech sales.

03:54:02.240 I was being paid, like, a third of what my male counterparts were being paid.

03:54:07.240 But I did advocate for myself, and I kept getting raises because of that.

03:54:10.760 But their argument...

03:54:11.960 You're getting paid one-third...

03:54:14.180 Base salary.

03:54:15.720 So if they were making...

03:54:17.200 If you were making $100,000, they were making $300,000?

03:54:20.640 I wasn't making $100,000 at the time.

03:54:22.360 I'm just using an example.

03:54:23.940 But yes, they were making...

03:54:25.160 Some of them were making three times.

03:54:26.300 So if you're making $50,000, they were making $150,000?

03:54:28.720 Is my math right there?

03:54:29.960 Yeah.

03:54:30.340 A third?

03:54:31.260 Yeah, that's a good example.

03:54:32.920 Is it a commission job?

03:54:34.660 Sales?

03:54:35.140 Isn't that often commission-based?

03:54:36.700 Salary and commission.

03:54:38.100 But that was the thing.

03:54:38.820 So their total compensation or plus commission?

03:54:42.800 They were getting...

03:54:43.600 Salary plus commission.

03:54:44.720 So your OTE would be different off-rip technically because of your different salaries.

03:54:50.460 But because...

03:54:50.980 Were you selling the same products?

03:54:52.520 Yeah.

03:54:53.060 But because I did well in my sales, I mean, I was good.

03:54:57.480 But I would argue like, yeah, in certain scenarios, that does happen.

03:55:01.780 But in mine, it was because also I had less experience, even though I was a top performer.

03:55:06.760 So I had to step away for a bit.

03:55:08.180 I know you were going around the table asking if everyone's...

03:55:11.040 Who's a feminist?

03:55:11.920 Did we get all the way around the table on that?

03:55:13.880 Everyone got to answer?

03:55:14.800 I think so, yeah.

03:55:15.580 And then somehow the wage gap came up.

03:55:18.720 And I heard something about sports.

03:55:20.840 So is it the case...

03:55:21.960 That was a good one.

03:55:23.040 Was it the women's sports should be paid the same as men's sports?

03:55:27.620 Is that...

03:55:27.880 Yeah, but obviously I understand, like, the women don't get as many views.

03:55:32.520 I'm just saying it sucks because they are, like, they perform, they do the same things

03:55:36.280 as men.

03:55:36.860 Do they?

03:55:37.140 Like, they're working hard every single day.

03:55:39.140 They bring home championships.

03:55:40.440 I think, like, it does suck that people don't watch women's sports enough.

03:55:44.760 But who's...

03:55:45.500 I mean...

03:55:46.420 Does it depend on the sport?

03:55:48.180 Are there some women's sports that get more views than men?

03:55:51.400 Well, it depends, but...

03:55:53.260 Bender the offender donated $100.

03:55:56.400 Women being equal in the eyes of the law is a good thing.

03:55:59.740 It's whenever equality in terms of physicality and mentality becomes a jack-of-all-trades,

03:56:05.180 but master-of-none type scenario.

03:56:07.980 Do you have the same issue, though, that, say, most, like, female OnlyFans creators get

03:56:12.420 paid more than men?

03:56:13.720 Or female models.

03:56:14.840 They're probably putting in the same work.

03:56:17.220 No, I think that they should...

03:56:18.220 If they're putting in the same work, like, yeah, they should be paid.

03:56:20.880 But how do you...

03:56:20.900 That's not really an awful way of running an economy.

03:56:23.320 The handyman donated $100.

03:56:26.300 Brixen, thanks for everything you do to teach young women the ways.

03:56:30.880 Side note, ignore the brain-dead goth girl, please.

03:56:34.320 FFS.

03:56:35.080 Thank you.

03:56:35.580 First time TTS.

03:56:37.680 Love the show.

03:56:38.740 The handyman.

03:56:39.160 Fight the good fight.

03:56:39.940 Thank you.

03:56:40.240 Thank you for your first time, TTS.

03:56:41.920 Really appreciate your generosity and patronage.

03:56:43.940 Thank you, man.

03:56:44.980 Appreciate it.

03:56:45.560 I will say, I am not well-educated with, like, economics and everything.

03:56:50.080 I'm just...

03:56:51.300 But that is an interesting...

03:56:53.060 And I'm not attacking you guys, obviously.

03:56:54.520 I do this for a living, so it's slightly different.

03:56:56.620 But I actually don't really do the cultural stuff.

03:56:58.600 Like I said, my wheelhouse really is the China stuff.

03:57:01.100 I just like to think I'm an impartial observer.

03:57:03.660 But it's just interesting to me because, like, does it not weird you out to some extent

03:57:09.740 that you're like, I'm a feminist.

03:57:11.740 Like, you have such this ingrained thing to be like, women need to be treated equal.

03:57:17.600 I need empowerment.

03:57:19.240 Like, society is not fair.

03:57:22.300 You know, it's not equal.

03:57:24.160 But then when you've never actually thought about it, like, you sort of reverse engineered

03:57:29.780 your thought process.

03:57:31.060 In other words, you started with the culmination instead of actually doing the debate and digging

03:57:35.560 into it, right?

03:57:36.080 You guys have all told me, like, oh, well, you're so much more well-researched than I am

03:57:39.460 on this issue.

03:57:40.260 I'm really not.

03:57:40.840 Like I said, I don't do the cultural stuff.

03:57:42.480 But I just, don't you feel weird, like, having an opinion that you haven't done the research

03:57:47.060 on?

03:57:47.480 And it's just an opinion that you have because corporations put out commercials making it

03:57:53.540 normalized to be a feminist?

03:57:55.220 Yeah, I would agree with that, I guess.

03:57:57.080 But I also experienced it, like, kind of her.

03:57:59.600 So, like, I know the bad parts of it.

03:58:02.960 And I did ask for a raise.

03:58:04.760 I cried to my manager.

03:58:06.280 I worked there for-

03:58:07.040 Was your manager a male or female?

03:58:08.180 It was a female.

03:58:09.160 Okay, but so if the issue is not being empowered and you think it's a patriarchy, the two of

03:58:14.560 you just told me the one anecdotal example-

03:58:16.600 Wait, what did you say?

03:58:17.560 The one anecdotal example we can get of an alleged pay gap was at the hands of a woman.

03:58:24.020 And so how is it men keeping you down?

03:58:27.780 No, no, no.

03:58:28.300 I never said men were keeping me down.

03:58:30.120 Wait, who?

03:58:30.440 Just really quick, just so I, because I was gone, who said they were feminists?

03:58:34.120 Just a show of hands.

03:58:35.000 I said moderately.

03:58:36.120 I also said moderately.

03:58:37.740 No, no.

03:58:38.380 Yeah, you?

03:58:39.060 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

03:58:40.640 Okay.

03:58:40.840 Oh, moderate.

03:58:41.540 Got it.

03:58:41.780 Let me read this chat really quick.

03:58:42.960 We'll come back to it.

03:58:44.680 Actually, Natalie, could you read it?

03:58:46.140 Example of female empowerment.

03:58:47.440 How about while serving 12 years in the U.S. Army, females would purposely get pregnant to avoid

03:58:51.720 deployments or get out of doing work or go home early because of cramps.

03:58:55.620 There's only feminism in a free country provided by men.

03:59:00.960 Joker, deuce, ace.

03:59:02.720 Thank you, man.

03:59:03.100 Appreciate your super chat.

03:59:04.800 Actually, let me kind of piggyback off this a little bit.

03:59:08.760 Question.

03:59:09.420 So what do you think about demands for equal pay in physically demanding jobs, such as firefighter,

03:59:15.740 police officer, laborer, soldier?

03:59:18.220 Sure.

03:59:20.880 Like, do you think, for example, women in the military, firefighters, police officers, laborers,

03:59:27.500 let's remove laborers.

03:59:29.340 Do you think that there should be equal pay in those circumstances?

03:59:33.420 Didn't she say there's equal pay?

03:59:35.260 Well, no, there is.

03:59:37.460 Yeah.

03:59:38.680 Do you think there should be, though?

03:59:40.580 I'm saying yeah.

03:59:41.480 Okay.

03:59:42.060 Yeah.

03:59:42.300 So, for example, the physical requirements, though, to become a firefighter or police officer

03:59:47.200 soldier, you know, there's like a physical test.

03:59:51.240 There's not just one standard.

03:59:53.040 There's the male standard and the female standard.

03:59:55.960 And the physical requirements that women need to achieve are far lower than for their

04:00:01.400 male counterparts.

04:00:02.160 Um, given that there's, these are physically laborious jobs, do you, it, it sounds like

04:00:09.780 to me equal pay for unequal work.

04:00:12.560 Because if there's a bigger physical, um, if there's a bigger physical burden on men in

04:00:19.200 these jobs, wouldn't it stand to reason that they ought to be paid more?

04:00:24.040 Well, I think everybody could put the same amount of work in technically.

04:00:27.280 And if men are, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

04:00:30.920 I don't, maybe I'm misunderstanding and I think I'm going to go off on a different

04:00:34.740 thing.

04:00:35.080 Well, okay, let's say.

04:00:36.100 That's all I have to say for right now.

04:00:37.460 I think some of the hardest jobs are military, firefighters, laborers, police officers, and

04:00:45.760 there's a reason why it's prominently men and there's a reason why they get paid royally

04:00:50.580 for it.

04:00:51.360 Exactly.

04:00:51.680 It's because the majority of women could not do it.

04:00:54.220 Okay, let's say, for example, it's just, if the physical, if, if we acknowledge that

04:01:04.840 these jobs are physically demanding and might require you to, for example, restrain a criminal

04:01:11.100 or rescue somebody from a burning building, do you really, if you're incapable of performing

04:01:22.340 that duty, but for the sake of like wokeness and putting people in this, these positions

04:01:28.680 where people's lives potentially need to be saved, where's the argument for it being justified

04:01:35.980 to give someone equal pay?

04:01:38.780 You're talking to me?

04:01:39.720 Huh?

04:01:40.100 You're talking to me?

04:01:40.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:01:41.100 I mean, I meant it more in a general sense.

04:01:48.200 Oh, it's just like, I've seen these videos, for example, of, of, um, and look, I think

04:01:53.040 there's space for women to be involved in firefighting, being police officers, soldiers, depending on

04:02:00.480 what, but I've seen these videos of, for example, there's like two or three female police officers

04:02:05.400 trying to restrain a male and they're just incapable of doing it. Like they cannot physically,

04:02:11.900 like with force, restrain the male. Whereas if it was like, I don't know why you're laughing,

04:02:18.000 but if it was just one man or two males, they would have been capable of restraining this

04:02:26.620 individual.

04:02:27.040 But we're talking about payment. So we're saying the three women police officers should

04:02:31.140 be paid less because they're less capable is what you're saying?

04:02:34.900 I mean, if part of your job involves dealing with criminals and if we care about, here's

04:02:40.880 another component of this. If a woman is incapable of physically restraining a man, the, she's

04:02:47.380 going to be much quicker to use lethal force than the man will. So there's some considerations

04:02:54.040 there because if she can't physically restrain him, okay, she's going to have to go through

04:02:58.120 what, there's a specific terminology for it. She's going to have to go through like a,

04:03:01.540 the escalation of, there's a specific term.

04:03:04.180 It's the escalation.

04:03:05.960 Killer of serial donated $100. Spatio-temporal events in M versus F sports, movement speed,

04:03:14.140 thrust power, throwing distances act. This is why women paid less, less ticket sales.

04:03:20.080 They only work as hard as they are biologically able.

04:03:27.960 Word. I don't know. It just occurs to me. It's like, you know, if you got to pay four

04:03:34.580 people to do the job of what two people could do. Yeah.

04:03:39.420 I think, sorry. I was going to say, I think for the sake of diversity, our society is being

04:03:45.300 more inclusive. Um, and I think that can be dangerous for many reasons. It puts the officers,

04:03:51.440 firefighters, um, whatever female, whichever profession it is, it puts them at risk. But

04:03:56.700 I think that ultimately it's up to the employer to gauge what is necessary in terms of what their

04:04:02.140 physical capabilities are, uh, when contributing to the workforce.

04:04:05.260 If you're getting on a plane, you're getting on a plane. Okay. Would you rather have the pilot be

04:04:14.720 just like a dude, ex-military, super qualified, got the job, you could argue probably in spite of

04:04:21.880 being a white dude. Or would you rather have someone who came up through the ranks of like

04:04:26.640 the diversity, equity, and inclusion program? She's a woman, but she only got in there so the

04:04:32.200 company could be like, look at our ESG score. It's fricking awesome. We have female pilots,

04:04:37.420 but you get to be the female pilot. Who would you rather fly with? Well, the guy, cause he's

04:04:41.720 more qualified. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not attached to money like everybody else here, I guess. I don't

04:04:46.960 care. If the woman was just as qualified, it doesn't matter. I think I missed the difference

04:04:53.260 between the two. Wait, Nick, private chat really quick. Someone coming from an ex-military background,

04:04:58.940 unqualified, or someone that- Who rose up the DEI ranks. Yeah. Got the job because they added to

04:05:05.420 that diversity percentage. Because they were a woman. Which like, I think if they have the

04:05:08.880 qualification regardless, I mean, and commercial, I mean, commercial is pretty like standard. I mean,

04:05:14.840 things happen. I mean, look at the flights lately. But I know, I know, I know, I know. I'm just saying

04:05:19.100 the company that was running the bridge in Maryland has a pretty strong DEI program. It's a good argument.

04:05:22.660 It's a good argument. I'm just, I think- I think if they got the qualifications either

04:05:27.720 way though, I mean, yeah, obviously I think everyone would go with like ex-military, you

04:05:31.860 were doing this for 30 years. Like, you know what you're doing, but- So you guys, so you

04:05:35.760 said that, right? You said you'd rather go with a qualified guy. So shouldn't people like

04:05:38.620 that be paid more than in the sense that it's what customers prefer? You'd rather go with people

04:05:44.060 of more experience as opposed to just some figurehead diversity. Oh, it's a woman. Cause when push

04:05:49.660 comes to shove. Well, if like she had the training and the, yeah, like qualifications for it, then

04:05:53.660 yeah, she should be paid equally as that person. But if not, then yeah, no. Yeah, but the whole

04:05:58.280 purpose of all these like affirmative action and DEI style hiring programs is that you're lowering

04:06:02.620 the standards to invite people in who don't have the same qualifications. We're going to shift gears

04:06:09.560 here a little bit. Um, let me read that chat that just came up. Then Nick, I'm going to have you pull

04:06:13.360 that up in a sec. Percy Ockley's, if Bree were a police officer, I'd let her restrain me.

04:06:19.060 Do you want to respond to that, Bree? Oops. Thank you. Thank you. I work out hard to be able to do

04:06:27.840 that. So, all right, hold on. There's a, there's a TTS that's just about to come through. Guys,

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04:07:01.060 We have Joker, Joker, Deuce. Oh, did I read this one already? Yeah. I did? Okay. All right.

04:07:06.840 Nick, can you go ahead and pull up that image I sent you? This is a comic. Can you make a smaller?

04:07:16.660 Wait a minute. I'm only getting 77% as many carrots as you're getting? Okay. I don't think

04:07:23.360 they get it. No, we get it. No, I, we get it. We get it. So, to read the things, different career

04:07:28.640 choices. So, men make different career choices, work more overtime. They have more workplace deaths,

04:07:35.340 more workplace injuries, fewer days off, less comfortable working conditions.

04:07:42.280 Do you guys agree that men and women make different choices when it comes to

04:07:46.440 the careers they go into? Well, I mean, obviously, nobody should all like make the same amount. I think

04:07:52.440 I'm just saying for the same job, when you have the same qualifications, you should make

04:07:56.480 the same amount. But they do. I never argued against that. Oh, okay. I never said. Yeah,

04:08:02.040 there's, there's laws against it. I just think it's all a puppet show. Ha, that was, thank

04:08:07.540 you for your contribution. That was really helpful. Thank you. That really added a lot. Yeah.

04:08:12.960 That was great. Thank you. Um, but I'm brainwashed.

04:08:19.520 Watch out. She's kind of, she's going to cast a spell on you. She's going to cast a spell.

04:08:27.160 Wait, it's okay. We're talking, we're talking about feminism. Um, hold on. I have a couple

04:08:32.240 questions. So, um, who said they were feminists? You, you, and you, and then you were talking,

04:08:39.360 you were also a feminist? Yeah, moderately. Yeah. Okay. So, I think the problem is the definition

04:08:44.660 is different for anybody. Right. It's changed too. Oh, and last thing on this. Wait, so

04:08:49.660 you, was your position that women athletes should be paid the same as male athletes? Was

04:08:55.400 that kind of your position? Yes, but I understand like, like, like sales, like in ticketing and

04:08:59.840 like stuff like that. A lot of people don't watch women's sports. Well, do you understand

04:09:03.060 that? It sucks. Well, why does it, why do, but why does that suck? Because I think that they

04:09:08.280 deserve like more record recognition with the sports that they do and like all the hard

04:09:14.220 work they do. Well, nobody deserves, I don't think anybody deserves recognition. You earn

04:09:18.820 recognition. I know, but I feel like that's precisely why they don't deserve to be paid more

04:09:23.520 money. You earn more money. Okay. That's where we disagree. What's that? I don't think it was

04:09:29.060 that deep. Yeah. I was just saying in general, it just kind of sucks. Does it though? I mean,

04:09:37.700 that's just the market. I'm done talking about it. I think she just, she just named an example

04:09:41.180 earlier and I don't think she meant. Do you think transgender men should be allowed to

04:09:44.080 compete in women's sports? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. No, because biologically,

04:09:48.220 no, because no, no. I've actually, uh, played volleyball, a game of college volleyball against

04:09:54.360 a transgender person. And it was very, very obvious that they were at the advantage.

04:10:02.440 Interesting. Okay. Really quick on the feminism thing. Um,

04:10:07.100 so feminism, what I missed this part, if you guys defined it, what, how do you define being

04:10:13.360 a feminist? What is, what does that mean to you? Honestly, I wanted to say I wasn't a feminist.

04:10:20.380 That's why I was shaking my head and doing this. Do we convert you? No, you didn't convert me. I

04:10:25.920 just, I know how it'd be. Um, she knows how it'd be. I know the top levels on the feminism shit.

04:10:33.400 Oh, okay. So yeah. Uh, so you are or not, or not a feminist? I'll just say no for, no. Okay. She,

04:10:41.320 we changed her mind. I think you changed, you changed her mind, Natalie. She said no. You said

04:10:46.940 no first. No, she said yes. She said no. So you three are the remaining. I was saying no, like I was

04:10:52.240 saying yes. You three, you three are the remaining feminists. Um, so what, so what, what exactly is

04:10:57.540 feminism fighting for? What does it mean to be a feminist? Oh, it starts with me. Yeah. We'll start

04:11:01.500 with you. Um, for me, it's more general and more about, I think there's just a lot of things in

04:11:06.900 society and that's not anyone's fault really. It's just kind of how things have been. And I think it's

04:11:12.320 more just about changing the norms and just women supporting each other and men supporting women,

04:11:17.420 um, and appreciating women. You, do you think men don't appreciate women? I think some don't.

04:11:24.220 Some don't. I'm not saying no. Well, what about women? Do you think? I think some women don't

04:11:27.280 appreciate women. Well, what about women not appreciating men? I think women should appreciate

04:11:31.400 men too. And I think that's also part of feminism, but. Is it? It's. Wait, part of feminism is women

04:11:37.180 appreciating men? I think as much as they appreciate women. I use the word equality before. Do you think

04:11:43.740 that's because historically women have been less appreciated than men? I mean, yes, but also. But who's gone and fought in

04:11:51.460 the battles and their lives have basically been discarded and killed in every world war?

04:11:56.180 I'm not saying that men should be less appreciated or that women should be appreciated more than men,

04:12:00.980 but I think we have an equal part in society and sometimes that looks different that it does for

04:12:05.100 men, but I don't think it makes it less important at all. So what, I mean, what is, what is feminism

04:12:10.380 trying to achieve? I guess it's not equality. I think I don't totally know for sure. And I think my

04:12:17.760 definition of it has changed over the years and I'm really open to thinking differently about it.

04:12:23.940 Well, so what about you? Into the mic. Oh, I agree with what Taylor said. What did she say?

04:12:28.640 Oh, God, you're gonna have to make me reiterate it. What do you agree with? I'll say, okay, well,

04:12:33.380 pretty much everything that she said, but also like just in general, um, for feminism, for me, and

04:12:39.500 obviously I still have so much more to learn. Like, I don't know, like a lot. Um, but I would just say like

04:12:45.380 women, like supporting women, like she basically said, just that. That's it? Supporting women?

04:12:50.840 Yeah. Just like on, on all your endeavors and everything. That's how I feel.

04:12:56.180 That's okay. What about you? Your sense of what feminism is? I feel the same way as both.

04:13:02.520 Supporting women? Yeah. Women supporting women also, just like the women can be independent,

04:13:07.260 that they can do their own thing. You know, that the, the idea that not so much the political

04:13:11.080 parts of it, but like, yeah. Well, so, I mean, one definition I've heard is feminism is something

04:13:17.040 that fights for women's rights. Would you agree with that? Mm-hmm. Yes. Would you agree with that?

04:13:22.100 Yeah. Um, and just curious for, since you guys go to UCSB, have you guys taken any like feminist

04:13:27.520 studies, gender studies classes at UCSB? I have.

04:13:31.340 Derelict donated $100. Female models make significantly more than male models.

04:13:37.540 Is that fair? The cognitive dissonance is next level.

04:13:43.500 Yeah. See, I don't think it sucks that male models don't make as much money as female models.

04:13:49.600 I just think that that's the way it is. And I accept it. I.

04:13:54.560 Yeah. Like you brought up OnlyFans earlier. Like it's way easier for a girl to make money

04:13:57.980 on OnlyFans than a guy. And like, I will say that. I don't feel any type of way.

04:14:01.920 Like, do we tax the women on OnlyFans and distribute. 77%. Distribute. Redistribute

04:14:08.480 the wealth of the female OF creators to the men on the platform? I think that's good.

04:14:12.680 I mean, I never said that. I think that's pretty. I think that's pretty. No, I know that's not

04:14:16.260 what you're saying. I actually completely agree with what you said earlier. If, I don't think

04:14:19.580 you were here. You're talking about like female and male roles in society. Like that's just

04:14:24.200 how. What do you, what do you guys mean though by women supporting women? Like, isn't that

04:14:28.380 kind of, what does that really mean? Isn't that imply that like there's some thing inherently

04:14:33.880 that's making women need to be supported to overcome? A girl's girl. But then why is

04:14:39.260 that feminism? Isn't that just like being a girl? Well, I was just trying to define for

04:14:42.280 them. I don't know what they mean. I think naturally like society and misogyny and like,

04:14:45.820 I'm not going to get super into that. There's so many ways to explain that, but. If there's

04:14:49.220 so many ways, then. It kind of can put women against each other sometimes. Isn't that

04:14:54.380 more a result of female nature? I have a question. I think it's a result of a lot

04:14:57.740 you just said misogyny. How do you define misogyny? I think it is, to me, it's kind

04:15:03.540 of favoring men in male. Can you give an example of it? Wait, can you just, to be precise, what's

04:15:13.780 your definition of misogyny? My definition, I think I might, that's why I kind of corrected

04:15:19.920 myself when I used it. Cause maybe it's like, I'm using it more loosely. I'm using it in a

04:15:25.860 way where like you favor a man, maybe even before yourself and what's best for you. And

04:15:32.900 like, that's how I feel. So an example of that is maybe like, I'd be more likely to agree

04:15:40.720 with you than another woman and kind of like, not necessarily disagreeing with me all night.

04:15:45.440 Well, that's my example. I wouldn't do that. Oh, okay. Um, but that's probably for other

04:15:49.380 reasons, but I just mean. Wait, so it'd be misogynistic for a woman to agree with a man?

04:15:53.260 No, I'm just saying if it went against how I feel, like if you said something that kind

04:15:57.000 of went against, but I want to be agreeable and I want to be like someone that. Is that

04:16:02.900 like an internalized? Isn't that just female nature? Women are naturally more agreeable.

04:16:07.320 I think submissive, but maybe naturally. The patriarchy wins again. Usually the woman

04:16:13.220 is more like traditionally submissive. Based? Based and red-pilled? I don't get it. I don't

04:16:21.300 know the reference. Oh, okay. Don't worry about it. Wait. So, okay. Um, how, what's your definition?

04:16:27.600 Oh, I think we got, we, oh, okay. Um, I was trying to bring it back to, so like one of the

04:16:33.820 things I've heard about feminism is it's, it's fighting for women's rights. Would you

04:16:38.340 guys agree with that? You agree with that? Do you think there are women's rights we still

04:16:42.840 need to fight for today? I'm, I think the right to choose what we do, like as far as

04:16:47.960 abortion. Okay. Reproductive rights. We can get into that, but is there, is there, because

04:16:53.540 I'm always curious because they say women's rights and I'm curious, well, what, what rights

04:16:57.860 precisely are feminists fighting for aside from that one? That's the one that I'm most

04:17:04.720 passionate about. Well, are there others that you are less passionate about? I'm, I'm just

04:17:10.900 saying I haven't done research and I can't think of something right now that I could

04:17:14.440 properly talk about. Anybody else? This is open to any of the girls who said they were

04:17:17.460 feminists? You, you? Well, mine's the same thing. Into the mic. Oh, sorry. Mine stands on the

04:17:22.060 same thing, abortion. Just, I think people, yeah. Yeah, I think that's where I stand the

04:17:27.220 strongest. I mean, but is there any, cause I like, I'm, I, me personally, I can't think

04:17:32.860 of any right that the man has that the woman doesn't. Well, didn't feminism, I don't know

04:17:39.180 the timeline here, but it started when we didn't have as many rights. And so we still

04:17:44.080 have feminism even though we've gotten all those rights. But I'm talking modern, modern

04:17:47.600 day right now. Did it start with the suffragettes? I'm talking modern day. Well, this, that's

04:17:52.840 the modern day issue I think is the biggest issue and I can't think of another one right

04:17:56.400 now. No. Wait, what? Wait, what? No, she's saying the modern day issue right now is like

04:18:01.640 abortion. No, but I'm saying is in the modern day right now, is there any right that men

04:18:06.440 have that women don't? No. Not that I can think of, no. Okay. Okay. So the primary thing

04:18:13.320 is the, uh, is the abortion topic. Although it's not clear to me if that's really a, um, a

04:18:22.740 gendered discrepancy insofar as men have no reproductive rights at all. So you could actually

04:18:28.840 make an argument when it comes to, if we're talking about equality, you could actually make

04:18:33.200 the argument that equality would be entirely walking back women's rights entirely to have

04:18:41.680 an abortion. That would actually be equality because men don't have, and I'm not advocating

04:18:48.480 that they should. Men don't have a, uh, an abortion, right? Men don't have the men don't

04:18:54.340 even have what's called legal paternal surrender where whether the woman wants to keep the child

04:18:59.040 or not, let's say she does a man can't say, well, I'm not financially ready. I don't want

04:19:03.900 to be, I don't want to be a father. Uh, I don't want to be responsible. I don't want a parental

04:19:09.760 responsibility. I don't want any financial responsibility. So men have no reproductive rights.

04:19:14.920 So it occurs to me in terms of women's rights, men's rights, equality. Uh, if we wanted equality,

04:19:22.100 we would just entirely walk back women's right to an abortion. Yeah, but it's, it's not the

04:19:26.380 same. And I get what you're saying. Right. But it's not evidence of a right that men have

04:19:31.320 that women don't. I just don't think it's really comparable. But earlier I used the word

04:19:36.680 equality and I think Brie said it's more equity because it's like men and women can be different

04:19:41.780 in a lot of different ways. And I think it's not meaning literally we should all have the

04:19:45.140 same things or the same, um, but that's what she thinks. Even though there's different views,

04:19:52.520 they should get paid the same. I think we've already been over that. You changed her mind

04:19:56.700 about it. Established, like I changed my mind about that. And I wasn't really, when I talk

04:20:01.100 about feminism, I'm not really talking as much. Of course I care about abortion rights. Um,

04:20:06.220 but for me it's more of a general sense of equity. Yeah. And I think Brian's point is,

04:20:11.920 is mainly that equality in terms of abortion would, would mean that no one would have a

04:20:16.400 choice because men don't have a choice as is and women do currently. And so equality and

04:20:21.680 abortion would be no one gets a choice. So it's what his point is. Right. But equality isn't

04:20:26.100 the right word. Yeah. I would even go as far to say that feminism compounded with a sexual

04:20:30.960 revolution giving women the freedom, not just through birth control, but through abortion

04:20:37.640 technologies and stuff like that has actually done significantly more harm to women and has

04:20:43.920 set women in some ways back. And I think if you look at the statistics on female happiness

04:20:49.960 and how content we are in society, the fact that what is it like 60% of girls in our age group

04:20:55.600 are on SSRIs, you know, I think you can sort of start to maybe think if all this progress

04:21:01.680 that we've made in the name of empowerment, which I think is sort of a, a fleeting thing

04:21:06.960 that I think is sort of nebulous and hard to define to begin with, but also, you know,

04:21:12.120 it's feeling empowered on false pretenses, all that great, right? Not really. If you get

04:21:16.840 a job that you don't deserve and you can't perform, it doesn't really matter. Or maybe you

04:21:20.560 have the same qualifications, but yeah, you only got into Harvard Business School because

04:21:23.500 you're a woman or you're because you're some special minority. But I think the feminist

04:21:27.040 movement, I know you didn't ask me to define it. I'll give a definition if you want. But

04:21:31.320 I think that it has actually been counterproductive and women empowering women, because I don't

04:21:38.500 think women sleeping around, which they can now do because of birth control and thinking

04:21:42.420 that they have very masculine sexuality where they can be empowered by having casual sex with

04:21:47.240 a bunch of dudes, because now they can, is necessarily being a girl's girl and is great

04:21:52.840 for female mental health and physical health.

04:21:59.500 I agree.

04:22:02.300 Okay. Well, last, maybe one or two last things on the feminism topic. Maybe you guys heard

04:22:09.480 these in your feminist classes that you guys took. Do we currently live in a patriarchy?

04:22:16.700 And we'll go around the table for everybody on this. Go ahead.

04:22:23.440 No.

04:22:25.600 Surprising answer, but okay.

04:22:27.340 No.

04:22:28.740 Yes.

04:22:29.680 I think yes.

04:22:31.060 I also think yes.

04:22:33.420 I'm going to say no.

04:22:35.020 I think so.

04:22:35.820 Yes.

04:22:36.600 Yeah.

04:22:37.100 Yes.

04:22:38.280 No, but maybe we should.

04:22:41.240 Okay.

04:22:41.640 Wait, so wait, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, yes, no, but we should. I'll have Natalie answer

04:22:51.380 that in just a sec, so.

04:22:55.140 Bender the offender donated $100. Keep in mind that Kentucky now allows women to seek child

04:23:01.760 support from a man even if the child isn't born yet.

04:23:05.380 W. W Kentucky.

04:23:07.240 We actually, we can maybe, thank you, Bender the offender. I think that's crazy. I'm not

04:23:13.320 in favor of that, but hold on, wait, sorry, where it was. Oh, okay. Under patriarchy, those

04:23:21.860 of you who said yes, we're in a patriarchy, are women oppressed?

04:23:26.180 No.

04:23:26.880 Into the mic.

04:23:28.040 No.

04:23:28.420 Well, maybe.

04:23:33.540 Well, no, no, no, no. What do you mean? Maybe, maybe how? Maybe how, then?

04:23:37.760 I don't want to talk about it. I'm so tired.

04:23:40.020 You got this.

04:23:40.920 No, I really don't. I'm tired. I don't know. It's not stuff I want to talk about on here,

04:23:46.920 honestly, so I can just say no if that makes you feel better.

04:23:49.460 No, no, no. I want, I just want the truth. I don't want you to give me the answer that

04:23:53.160 I want. I just want the truth.

04:23:54.500 Ah, it's hard to speak the truth.

04:23:59.000 I just don't even remember. Are women oppressed in the patriarchy?

04:24:03.060 Well, you said there's a patriarchy. You said we currently live in a patriarchy. Under

04:24:08.080 said patriarchy, are women oppressed?

04:24:10.140 I think some women are oppressed, but.

04:24:11.280 Some women.

04:24:12.060 Yeah.

04:24:12.400 Okay. And I'm speaking, let's just make it simple, here in the United States. That's

04:24:16.280 what I'm speaking about.

04:24:18.600 I'm done with my turn.

04:24:19.920 Well, no, are some women, are women oppressed?

04:24:22.440 Just for now. Just a little break. I just need a little break.

04:24:25.840 Well, just engage. It's.

04:24:29.860 I need a snack break.

04:24:32.460 I really.

04:24:33.080 Stop. Don't indulge them. Go ahead.

04:24:40.900 Women don't like to work the long hours.

04:24:43.400 No, I'm kidding.

04:24:46.420 Do you want to just answer the question so I can.

04:24:48.380 I did answer. I don't want to explain.

04:24:50.280 That's not an answer.

04:24:50.940 You didn't ask everybody else why.

04:24:52.780 I'm.

04:24:53.460 I started with her, or I think I started with you.

04:24:55.620 And we all said yes or no.

04:24:57.340 What?

04:24:58.560 Like, didn't we just say, like, a yes or no answer?

04:25:00.740 I think she.

04:25:01.360 You gave an answer.

04:25:02.300 Yeah, I said no.

04:25:03.500 You said no.

04:25:06.420 And she said maybe.

04:25:10.340 I don't know.

04:25:10.860 I'm thinking about it.

04:25:11.420 Maybe.

04:25:11.720 I have to think about it.

04:25:13.560 I don't have an answer right now.

04:25:14.860 But you said we do live in a patriarchy.

04:25:21.800 I'll say no.

04:25:24.100 No?

04:25:24.640 Okay.

04:25:25.760 Who else?

04:25:26.400 Who else said we're in a patriarchy?

04:25:27.940 I think you two?

04:25:28.880 Are women oppressed under the patriarchy?

04:25:31.660 No.

04:25:32.200 I don't think so.

04:25:32.880 No?

04:25:33.000 Okay.

04:25:33.140 No.

04:25:33.380 No.

04:25:33.440 Okay.

04:25:37.420 I skipped over you.

04:25:38.240 You coming back to you?

04:25:39.240 That's not what I meant.

04:25:40.640 I'll just say no.

04:25:42.200 She'll just say no.

04:25:43.500 Wait.

04:25:43.960 Would you like him to define the patriarchy?

04:25:46.420 Would that help you, like, better formulate your answer?

04:25:48.840 I don't think that's where my problem is.

04:25:50.320 I think I just.

04:25:51.760 I'm not sure how I feel, honestly.

04:25:53.800 Yeah.

04:25:53.960 You're not sure.

04:25:55.300 I'm not sure.

04:25:55.760 I'm not sure how I feel about.

04:25:56.920 Are you.

04:25:58.000 Okay.

04:25:58.920 Well, maybe.

04:26:00.740 I want to say something I don't mean.

04:26:02.140 Under patriarchy are men oppressors.

04:26:05.260 Are men oppressors?

04:26:06.700 Are men oppressors under patriarchy?

04:26:08.140 I don't think so.

04:26:09.040 I don't think so.

04:26:12.620 So we're starting there now.

04:26:13.920 Okay.

04:26:14.920 I'm just confused on this.

04:26:16.520 I just don't.

04:26:17.080 I want to be left alone for just, like, a minute.

04:26:18.920 You've never heard the oppressed, oppressor dynamic?

04:26:22.840 Let's just let her think.

04:26:25.680 Well, can you define patriarchy so that everyone has, like, the same idea of, like, what you think it is?

04:26:30.520 Or, sorry.

04:26:30.820 Well, I don't believe in the patriarchy, so it's not really my job to define it.

04:26:36.800 If you assert something exists, the duty falls on you to define it.

04:26:42.620 I'm just trying to make it easy.

04:26:45.920 Otherwise, I'll just defer to Hitchens Razor.

04:26:49.140 That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

04:26:54.780 Boom.

04:26:55.640 Lawyered.

04:26:56.060 Boom.

04:26:56.540 Boom.

04:26:56.600 Boom.

04:26:56.660 Boom.

04:26:56.680 Boom.

04:26:56.700 Boom.

04:27:00.820 Anything?

04:27:02.900 Crickets.

04:27:03.840 Anything?

04:27:04.540 Under patriarchy are men oppressors.

04:27:06.460 Are you oppressed?

04:27:07.620 How about that?

04:27:08.220 Are you oppressed?

04:27:09.300 Are you oppressed?

04:27:10.320 Are you oppressed?

04:27:11.160 No.

04:27:12.440 I already answered that.

04:27:13.320 The patriarchy has beaten them down, and they can't even give an answer.

04:27:17.560 Okay.

04:27:17.780 Interesting.

04:27:19.580 Well, I mean, my sense of feminism, I'll say this.

04:27:23.360 Feminism is not an equality movement.

04:27:26.300 I'll be charitable here, and I'll say at its best, it's a women's advocacy movement.

04:27:32.020 I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with women's advocacy, but it's definitely not an equality movement.

04:27:39.800 I don't know if you guys want to challenge me on that, but there's clear evidence that feminists don't actually care about equality.

04:27:47.520 You care about securing benefits for women.

04:27:50.360 That's, again, not necessarily anything wrong with that, but don't call yourself an equality movement if you don't actually seek true equality.

04:27:58.760 I actually agree with you on that.

04:28:00.580 Yeah, it's an advocacy movement.

04:28:03.680 Based in Red Pilled.

04:28:04.760 Do you want to engage at all?

04:28:09.620 Do you agree with my definition?

04:28:14.540 I think so.

04:28:15.860 You think so?

04:28:18.800 It's not really a straight answer.

04:28:23.260 You're a feminist, right?

04:28:24.400 You said you were a feminist?

04:28:25.080 I said no, like, three times.

04:28:26.480 Oh, you did?

04:28:27.060 Yeah.

04:28:27.400 Oh, it was her that was a feminist.

04:28:29.860 Do you agree with my definition of it?

04:28:33.560 Yeah.

04:28:35.520 Okay.

04:28:40.200 That was helpful.

04:28:41.260 Thank you guys for engaging.

04:28:42.760 The engagement was very thoughtful.

04:28:45.520 I'm going to read a couple chats here.

04:28:47.900 Are we going to get Natalie's?

04:28:49.320 I want to hear that.

04:28:50.180 Let me have her read it, and then we'll get to Natalie's.

04:28:52.760 The feminist ideals are largely political in nature.

04:28:56.460 The left side of the political spectrum needs to push the false notion of feminism to maintain

04:29:00.640 a voter base.

04:29:01.740 They create fictitious problem only to sell you a solution for perpetual control.

04:29:05.940 Yo, Emacs Tactical, appreciate your super chat.

04:29:10.900 Thank you.

04:29:11.520 We have this one.

04:29:12.200 Why is it feminists can't even explain their position?

04:29:17.040 As Grid One would say, how can the patriarchy help you today?

04:29:20.180 Yeah, where's Grid One?

04:29:21.260 You know, I haven't seen them.

04:29:22.720 Yo, Sean, thank you, man.

04:29:23.580 Really appreciate it.

04:29:25.120 Wait, did you show the orange one, Nick?

04:29:26.800 Oh, you did?

04:29:27.520 Okay.

04:29:28.360 Sean, appreciate it.

04:29:29.560 Do the feminists at the table want to answer it?

04:29:34.040 Why can't you explain your position?

04:29:38.180 I feel like I already explained my position earlier.

04:29:41.960 Oh.

04:29:42.880 Okay.

04:29:43.900 I thought we already said that.

04:29:45.140 I feel like the majority of women on this panel, at least, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong,

04:29:49.640 but I feel like these women have been claimed to be feminists because they're more girls'

04:29:55.580 girls, and they want to advocate for women to be for women.

04:29:59.560 And not against women, and to be more agreeable with women.

04:30:02.240 And it's less the true feminist movement and more of how we engage with one another.

04:30:09.180 Correct me if I'm wrong.

04:30:10.280 I don't know.

04:30:10.640 I don't claim to be a feminist.

04:30:11.540 I could agree with that, yeah.

04:30:12.800 When you guys are considering who you're voting for, what's, like, the primary issue that drives you?

04:30:20.120 The puppet show.

04:30:22.040 Is it abortion?

04:30:23.720 What?

04:30:24.900 Yes.

04:30:26.200 That is a driving force for me.

04:30:27.820 Yeah, I would agree.

04:30:28.540 I think abortion is a driving force.

04:30:30.660 So, just to piggyback off that super chat, isn't it kind of interesting that, again, maybe for you,

04:30:36.520 I know for a lot of women, young women that I speak to, like, the driving impetus,

04:30:40.480 deciding who you vote for is an issue that we're just kind of walking through right now

04:30:44.940 as a feminist cause, as you defined.

04:30:46.860 But no offense, you guys can't even really define feminism or misogyny.

04:30:50.580 And there's gray area.

04:30:51.320 I'm not using you guys specifically.

04:30:52.500 But doesn't it make you, like I was saying before, sort of think how it's weird how there's these, like, isms and ideologies that are so strongly implanted in your brain,

04:31:02.920 but you haven't really even done the work to come to that conclusion, yet it manifests in the form of you voting in a political way.

04:31:09.120 Does she just say manifest?

04:31:10.860 Do you believe in manifestation?

04:31:11.880 Shut up, dude.

04:31:13.020 Go ahead, Natalie.

04:31:13.860 But that use, you know, I would assume you're maybe probably Democrats, or you vote for politicians, not solely,

04:31:22.240 but strongly because of what they do with abortion.

04:31:24.960 And when my side says that they use abortion as an issue to turn out the female vote,

04:31:28.680 does it not make you think, like, oh, isn't it interesting that I'm so passionate about this issue

04:31:32.900 that I actually haven't done any research on?

04:31:37.560 Well, with the abortion topic that we're speaking of, I have done research on it.

04:31:42.720 So I think that's what helps me.

04:31:45.340 But especially with that topic, I'm saying, like, I think women have the right to choose,

04:31:50.360 and I think that should just be that.

04:31:52.760 Like, if you don't want to get an abortion, great.

04:31:55.080 But shouldn't we make legislative decisions based off of the majority?

04:31:58.760 And if you're going to, I'm not saying you are going to argue this,

04:32:01.400 but a lot of people that are pro-choice argue that abortion is absolutely necessary in every state

04:32:07.220 because so many women are getting raped and getting pregnant,

04:32:10.480 and that's why we primarily need abortions.

04:32:12.960 Would you agree?

04:32:14.280 Yes.

04:32:15.280 What would you, how would you feel if I told you that less than 1% of all abortions are from rape?

04:32:20.400 Use SA.

04:32:21.440 Sorry.

04:32:21.920 It's okay.

04:32:23.240 How would you feel if I told you that less than 1% of women who experience that

04:32:28.460 are the minority, less than 1%?

04:32:32.000 Because we have to make decisions for the majority.

04:32:38.360 Okay.

04:32:38.920 Let me think really quick.

04:32:41.300 I don't think we should make decisions for the majority.

04:32:46.280 Yeah.

04:32:46.560 Well, I mean.

04:32:47.100 Thank you for that contribution.

04:32:48.560 That was wonderful.

04:32:49.600 Thank you.

04:32:50.480 Honestly, I mean, same thing.

04:32:52.300 I have so much more to learn with it, and I've just recently started voting.

04:32:55.980 Um, I look at it in a way of, like, what is going to benefit me and others in, like, later,

04:33:06.260 and, like, mostly me.

04:33:08.540 Um, yeah.

04:33:09.940 I don't know.

04:33:10.400 I don't really have anything else to kind of say about it.

04:33:12.640 Well, I think everyone, like, has the right to get an abortion, no matter how they got pregnant.

04:33:17.460 Is that because, is that because it's your body, and there's now another body inside of your body?

04:33:23.200 That's why you feel inclined to take a life that is inside of you?

04:33:26.980 I guess.

04:33:27.380 Just because it happens to be inside of you?

04:33:29.620 I guess.

04:33:29.940 Not because it's another body inside of yours?

04:33:32.380 That's not how I look at it, I guess.

04:33:35.340 Um, so would you, so would you make the argument that this fetus is simply a clump of cells until it's delivered?

04:33:44.120 I mean, personally, like, I don't think, like, oh, everyone should just get abortions.

04:33:49.520 I think it's definitely, like, for emergency situations.

04:33:52.800 Um, and I don't think it's that simple either.

04:33:55.260 I value life always.

04:33:57.380 Um, but I do think there's, like, a line there.

04:34:00.460 Um, so let me, let me pose this question.

04:34:03.280 So outside of, um, medical emergencies, uh, declared by doctors, medical professionals,

04:34:09.200 medical professionals, and the less than 1% of people that are in a horrible situation

04:34:14.420 for the people that are simply just irresponsible with their protection with, um, sexual intercourse.

04:34:20.480 How do you feel about those people getting abortions?

04:34:24.260 Oh, hold on.

04:34:25.920 We'll come back to that topic here in just a sec.

04:34:28.660 Hey, stay safe.

04:34:29.740 Thank you for the big raid, dude.

04:34:31.560 Yo, I hope you had a great stream, man.

04:34:33.780 Hold on.

04:34:34.200 Let me, let me talk about this for, Nick, you're going to lower the audio just a bit.

04:34:39.520 Stay safe.

04:34:40.660 Phase 3, Season of Discovery, coming out.

04:34:43.900 It's going to be a great time.

04:34:45.040 I really appreciate the raid, man.

04:34:46.480 Thank you so much.

04:34:47.900 Uh, stay safe as he's ready.

04:34:49.260 He's, uh, on Twitch.

04:34:50.620 He's been on the show a couple times before.

04:34:53.060 I have a World of Warcraft-related question for the ladies.

04:34:56.240 FYI, by the way, guys, we do have a live mage here in the show.

04:35:00.220 She's a mage.

04:35:02.000 She's a witch, but trust me, she's a mage.

04:35:04.320 Or a warlock.

04:35:05.220 We're talking about you, right?

04:35:06.600 You cast spells and shit.

04:35:09.200 Scuffed split, by the way.

04:35:11.260 Right?

04:35:13.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:35:14.020 So, ladies, going around the table.

04:35:19.800 Would you date...

04:35:21.260 Would you date a guy who plays World of Warcraft, like, just a casual seven hours a day?

04:35:29.240 Hell yeah.

04:35:30.200 I'm a streamer.

04:35:31.020 I stream with him.

04:35:32.000 Okay, what about you?

04:35:33.480 Seven hours is kind of a lot.

04:35:35.280 But he's a pumper.

04:35:36.440 Like, he's not just, like, a casual.

04:35:38.080 Like, he's got multiple level 60s.

04:35:41.500 He's a pumper.

04:35:42.500 He's in Molten Core, BWL, AQ40, Naxx.

04:35:46.620 Naxx, what's up?

04:35:47.520 I don't know what that means.

04:35:48.900 What does that mean?

04:35:51.400 You don't know about Naxx?

04:35:53.000 No.

04:35:54.680 It's okay.

04:35:55.840 He's just, like, in, you know, Warcraft logs.

04:35:58.440 Like, he's parsing, like, 99 percentiles.

04:36:00.760 Like, pink parses.

04:36:02.080 Okay.

04:36:02.580 Pink parses World of Warcraft logs.

04:36:04.560 Or Warcraft logs, excuse me.

04:36:06.040 No, because he should be using that time with me.

04:36:08.280 With you?

04:36:09.100 Yeah.

04:36:09.860 Okay.

04:36:10.860 Does it change anything if he's, like, the main tank of his guild?

04:36:14.720 Like, if he's, like, DPS, he's kind of replaceable.

04:36:16.820 Although that is so, so hot.

04:36:19.800 I'm going to have to go.

04:36:21.420 It's hot that he's the MT main tank.

04:36:23.120 Oh, yeah.

04:36:23.820 Yeah.

04:36:24.400 Because, like, he's been funneled.

04:36:26.000 Like, this is, he's been funneled all the loot up until this point.

04:36:29.660 So he's, like, the main tank.

04:36:31.660 Oh.

04:36:32.620 Yeah.

04:36:33.260 Fuck.

04:36:33.900 Yeah.

04:36:34.240 So it's, like, he has to play.

04:36:35.360 That's so hot, but I'm going to have to go with him home.

04:36:37.700 Okay.

04:36:38.040 What about you?

04:36:38.840 I don't game, so I don't know what any of that meant, to be honest.

04:36:41.720 He plays seven hours a day.

04:36:42.900 He's a pumper, a raider.

04:36:44.540 Sounds like fries.

04:36:46.540 Like, is he working also?

04:36:48.540 He's got Gressel and the, oh, what's the offhand from KT?

04:36:52.980 Well, like, okay, my question is, is he working, like, outside of that?

04:36:56.940 Yeah, he's working on his raid.

04:36:59.320 He's the guild leader, too.

04:37:00.460 Okay, you're trolling me.

04:37:01.360 Answer your question.

04:37:01.760 No, I'm not trolling.

04:37:02.440 He's, no, that's his job.

04:37:03.880 He's a Twitch streamer.

04:37:05.060 He's a streamer.

04:37:05.800 He's a streamer.

04:37:06.300 And he makes money doing that.

04:37:07.360 Yeah, but he spends, like, 12 hours a day, like.

04:37:09.820 You change it from seven to 12.

04:37:10.760 He's got, like, spreadsheets, like, here's who's going to ZG this week.

04:37:14.680 And he's, like, doing groups.

04:37:16.020 Here's, like, and they're, like, split rating, right?

04:37:18.480 So there's, like, because they're trying to get all the loot from, like, Naxx and shit.

04:37:21.460 Yeah, I still don't know what any of that means.

04:37:22.980 And, like, BWL, like, they get this, right?

04:37:24.560 But if that is what he likes doing and he makes money.

04:37:26.480 Wait, but hold on, get this, right?

04:37:27.380 Dude, they've been in BWL for six months and there hasn't been one, like, Drake Fang talisman that's dropped.

04:37:33.320 It's, like, totally scuffed.

04:37:34.820 Like, the loot tables are garbage.

04:37:36.240 Like, whoever's seeding the fucking loot in the raids is, like, I don't know what's going on.

04:37:40.680 If you stream that and you don't know what you're doing, a lot of guys will like it and they'll join and try to help you.

04:37:46.000 Just letting you know.

04:37:46.240 But, like, dog shit seeds for the raids.

04:37:49.540 Okay, so I'll reiterate again since you went off on that little tangent.

04:37:53.580 I don't know what any of that means.

04:37:55.920 Like, Natharian's, what is it?

04:37:57.420 Yo, stay safe.

04:37:58.060 What is it from, from, uh, fuck, Natharian's Tear?

04:38:02.680 Wait, fuck.

04:38:05.340 Oh, my God.

04:38:06.320 I can't believe I'm blanking on the final boss of BWL.

04:38:09.620 I think I'm doing it too.

04:38:10.720 Does anyone other than you, I mean, you stream, so, like, does anyone know what you're talking about?

04:38:14.000 Look, would you date a guy who, who plays, like, 14 hours a day World of Warcraft?

04:38:17.940 You still didn't get my answer.

04:38:18.860 No, 12 to 14.

04:38:19.620 What about you?

04:38:20.380 It went from 7 to 14.

04:38:21.960 Would you, what, what, 14 hours a day, would you?

04:38:23.660 You didn't answer the question.

04:38:24.260 What was it?

04:38:24.580 Does he make money streaming?

04:38:25.560 Yeah, he makes money.

04:38:26.460 He makes a decent living?

04:38:27.580 Yeah.

04:38:28.420 Okay, then yeah.

04:38:29.640 Okay.

04:38:30.080 That's not how the question started.

04:38:31.360 What about you?

04:38:31.740 Yeah, that wasn't how the question started.

04:38:32.960 You, like, never got my answer.

04:38:33.740 His name, his name's Ampy.

04:38:36.180 Oh, okay.

04:38:37.580 Ampy.

04:38:38.120 I think I might have to change my answer then.

04:38:40.080 No, that's, that's his, that's his, he's a warrior, and he's like, he's pretty, like,

04:38:45.220 dude, this guy's a fucking, he's, no, guys, listen, he's a great tank, he's a great tank,

04:38:50.480 he's a great raid leader, okay?

04:38:53.580 Are you guys DTF?

04:38:54.620 Does this question have, I mean, does this, is it his sole profession?

04:38:58.280 Okay, okay, all right.

04:38:59.020 Does this game, or is it a hobby?

04:39:01.500 That was fun for you.

04:39:01.980 Is it his job or a hobby?

04:39:04.640 Would you date a gamer?

04:39:06.820 Interested in this game.

04:39:07.560 12, 14 hours a day.

04:39:09.600 I mean, my baby daddy was a dungeon and dragons dungeon map, so whatever that means, I don't

04:39:14.960 know what it means.

04:39:15.600 Yo, stay safe.

04:39:16.320 Oh, wait, Nick, really quick, pull up the Twitch.

04:39:18.360 Guys, if you're joining us from stay safe, if you can, stay safe, thank you so much for

04:39:21.820 the raid.

04:39:22.300 Guys, drop us a follow.

04:39:24.060 Is the game, like...

04:39:25.740 Don't worry about it.

04:39:26.420 I lost the game.

04:39:27.220 Relax.

04:39:28.300 Shaman.

04:39:29.700 Guys, if you're new from stay safe's channel, please drop us a follow.

04:39:32.940 I spend the entire dating talk basically asking the girls World of Warcraft-related questions,

04:39:39.560 so if you're from, drop us a follow.

04:39:41.960 If you have a Prime sub available, drop us a little Prime in the chat.

04:39:46.000 Last World of Warcraft question, guys.

04:39:48.280 Are you guys excited for Season of Discovery, Phase 3?

04:39:51.900 Absolutely.

04:39:52.980 Yeah?

04:39:53.260 So excited, 100%.

04:39:54.940 Woo-hoo!

04:39:55.680 Yeah?

04:39:56.520 Sweet.

04:39:57.040 Are you guys excited for...

04:40:00.320 What else is coming out?

04:40:03.320 Is it mythology type of beat?

04:40:05.860 Like, the game?

04:40:06.380 Do you guys play Horde or Alliance, though?

04:40:08.420 Are you guys like Horde or Alliance?

04:40:09.580 I've never heard of that.

04:40:10.060 Have you guys done, like, Plunderstorm at all?

04:40:12.400 Like, BRs?

04:40:13.320 Are these, like...

04:40:13.340 BRs, Battle Royale?

04:40:14.340 But I'm asking, is there mythology behind this?

04:40:16.480 Like, do you play...

04:40:16.620 Do you play Plunderstorm?

04:40:17.620 Is there mythology behind this?

04:40:19.320 Like, these games?

04:40:19.660 I've been watching a bit of Plunderstorm, and it, like, it seems kind of cool, you know?

04:40:22.400 So there's no mythology behind these games?

04:40:24.720 Mythology?

04:40:25.360 Yeah.

04:40:25.660 Bro, what are you smoking, son?

04:40:27.780 Mythology?

04:40:28.460 I was just asking.

04:40:30.480 You were just asking?

04:40:33.420 Don't look at me that way.

04:40:35.120 Stop with the...

04:40:38.900 What's wrong?

04:40:42.240 Are you getting nervous?

04:40:45.420 No.

04:40:47.000 Okay, moving on.

04:40:47.900 Stay safe.

04:40:48.360 Thank you for the raid, man.

04:40:49.100 Much appreciated.

04:40:50.000 If you're over there on Twitch, jumps to follow if you can.

04:40:52.840 Thank you, guys.

04:40:53.480 Appreciate it.

04:40:54.200 Wait, where were we?

04:40:55.100 I forgot.

04:40:55.660 You guys were talking about...

04:40:56.660 Oh, I didn't forget.

04:40:57.280 I know exactly where we are.

04:40:59.540 Goddamn.

04:41:00.060 Okay, making it heavy for Stay Safe's audience here.

04:41:03.400 Maybe should we...

04:41:04.040 We'll come back to that.

04:41:04.940 Let's come back to that.

04:41:05.720 Let me read a couple chats.

04:41:07.000 Girls, please give fave carnal position.

04:41:09.320 Okay, favorite carnal position.

04:41:11.420 Cowgirl, doggy, mission, buzz, light on, off, subdom.

04:41:14.860 Who do the work?

04:41:15.560 It's natural to be under man control and boom, boom, boom.

04:41:19.320 Apply you, same logic across your lives.

04:41:21.020 Okay, favorite position.

04:41:24.480 I like getting on top.

04:41:26.960 Kind of based, okay.

04:41:29.420 I think I'll skip this question.

04:41:31.420 Oh, come on.

04:41:32.080 Come on.

04:41:32.360 We're all adults here.

04:41:34.340 You've had carnal knowledge of a man.

04:41:39.820 You don't want to say your favorite?

04:41:41.360 You want to go back to getting grilled on feminism?

04:41:44.200 Are you sure?

04:41:45.140 I never said I was a feminist.

04:41:46.400 This is a softball.

04:41:47.160 I never said I was a feminist.

04:41:48.680 I wasn't getting grilled.

04:41:49.940 Okay, well, no, I know, but your friends were.

04:41:53.280 That's fine.

04:41:54.000 You could save them.

04:41:56.660 You don't want to talk about feminism?

04:41:58.660 You don't want to take about sexual positions?

04:42:00.760 Okay, what about you?

04:42:02.240 Missionary because I like eye contact.

04:42:05.260 Girl, I was going to say that.

04:42:06.760 I agree.

04:42:07.460 Same.

04:42:07.820 I also agree, missionary.

04:42:10.240 There's other.

04:42:11.380 Okay, anyways, what about you?

04:42:12.920 We both just agreed.

04:42:14.240 You miss it all.

04:42:15.240 Huh?

04:42:15.660 I may have to agree with that.

04:42:16.820 Did you disagree?

04:42:17.720 I also said what she said, and then she said what I said.

04:42:20.920 We all agree.

04:42:21.800 Missionary.

04:42:22.260 You guys are missionary.

04:42:23.300 Okay.

04:42:24.200 I like being spooned.

04:42:26.340 Oh, that's a good one.

04:42:27.300 Word.

04:42:27.640 Yeah.

04:42:28.140 Okay, what about you?

04:42:29.300 Same, same.

04:42:30.260 I like missionary because I like eye contact.

04:42:32.360 Oh, okay.

04:42:33.420 I just prefer not to say.

04:42:35.340 Okay.

04:42:36.580 I'm going to pass.

04:42:37.680 She's going to pass?

04:42:38.480 You sure?

04:42:38.940 You guys want to?

04:42:39.260 Okay, all right.

04:42:39.920 I just want to pass.

04:42:41.760 Okay.

04:42:42.860 I'll say my favorite position.

04:42:46.060 Girl on top.

04:42:47.380 Oh, W.

04:42:48.140 Oh, you guys are a perfect match.

04:42:49.880 That's why I made him so nervous.

04:42:53.540 Yes.

04:42:56.600 Are you envisioning it?

04:42:58.680 I'm going to lose my mind.

04:43:00.940 There's other considerations.

04:43:02.940 Okay.

04:43:03.660 All right.

04:43:04.940 I kind of like to do the work, though.

04:43:07.300 Like, girl on top of that, I would do the work.

04:43:09.020 You can do the work.

04:43:12.260 Relax, bro.

04:43:13.040 Relax, Naomi.

04:43:13.780 I'm not saying with.

04:43:14.560 Calm down, bro.

04:43:15.640 Last show.

04:43:17.280 Wait, what?

04:43:17.820 What?

04:43:18.460 Go ahead.

04:43:18.720 What were you going to say?

04:43:21.360 Nothing.

04:43:23.160 Okay.

04:43:23.660 Thank you, Naomi.

04:43:24.300 That was great.

04:43:25.680 We have E, the prophet.

04:43:27.400 Q for Brian.

04:43:27.980 Do you consider yourself modern, traditional, or somewhere in the middle?

04:43:30.740 If in the middle, would you consider changing the Q on your form for the girls to sliding scale instead of binary?

04:43:37.000 Okay, yeah.

04:43:37.440 So on the girls' messages, message us requesting to be on the show.

04:43:41.160 We ask if they're feminist or traditional.

04:43:46.320 Sure, I guess.

04:43:47.440 I could change it.

04:43:48.180 As far as what I consider myself, I'm somewhere in the middle.

04:43:52.560 I'm not staunchly traditional, but I also am not totally 100% degen, so I'd say I'm somewhat in the middle.

04:44:03.140 Bender the offender.

04:44:04.540 Ladies, who is to blame for the unrealistic beauty standards for women?

04:44:09.060 Women.

04:44:10.140 For women.

04:44:11.160 Women conforming.

04:44:12.220 Women.

04:44:12.660 Wait, let's start.

04:44:13.740 Actually, we can start with...

04:44:14.840 No, let's start over here.

04:44:16.000 We'll go around.

04:44:16.640 Sorry.

04:44:17.700 Influencers and celebrities.

04:44:19.860 Your thoughts?

04:44:21.020 Who's to blame?

04:44:21.940 Is it men?

04:44:23.140 Is it the patriarchy?

04:44:24.660 Oh, and social media.

04:44:25.940 Sorry.

04:44:26.860 Are men to blame?

04:44:28.020 Is the patriarchy to blame?

04:44:29.900 Who's to blame?

04:44:30.600 Women.

04:44:31.720 Women.

04:44:32.600 Oh.

04:44:33.680 I think a little bit of both.

04:44:35.540 Oh.

04:44:36.020 Yeah, actually, I agree with that.

04:44:37.040 Everyone is to blame, including us.

04:44:39.620 Everyone's to blame.

04:44:40.500 What are your thoughts?

04:44:40.880 Yeah, I would say a little bit of both.

04:44:42.400 Any of your thoughts?

04:44:43.820 A little bit of both.

04:44:44.680 A little bit of both.

04:44:45.280 Okay.

04:44:46.040 I think Photoshop and filters and the exaggeratedness of everything on social media.

04:44:53.500 Nobody looks like how they actually look in real life, and I think it gives this false representation,

04:44:59.960 for especially young girls, on what they should look like versus what people actually look like.

04:45:06.960 She's right.

04:45:07.460 I come from the beauty industry.

04:45:08.820 I'm a licensed esthetician.

04:45:10.080 I was in the beauty industry for 10 years, and one of the main reasons why I got out of it

04:45:14.740 was just because my ideals and my values no longer aligned with the beauty industry,

04:45:23.900 especially after having my daughter.

04:45:25.680 Your thoughts?

04:45:26.600 I think women are to blame for adhering to the male gaze.

04:45:30.080 It's all your fault.

04:45:31.380 Oh, my God.

04:45:32.600 Ditto and cosmetics company.

04:45:34.560 Whoa.

04:45:36.320 Yeah, I don't know.

04:45:38.940 I mean, I think there's certain biological things.

04:45:41.180 I don't think we can deny that, generally speaking, men like women with large butts and big boobs, generally.

04:45:53.060 So women could be sort of like, for example, with BBLs and breast implants.

04:45:59.100 And women could be trying to achieve that sort of ideal body that men find attractive.

04:46:05.080 But I don't know if it's men to blame for that, necessarily.

04:46:08.060 And also, as a natural body supremacist, I have a strong preference for no plastic surgery.

04:46:14.880 I give me...

04:46:15.820 Okay.

04:46:16.520 Oh, okay.

04:46:17.200 All right.

04:46:17.620 Scott donated $100.

04:46:20.220 These modern-day women have more rights than ever before, and taking the life of the innocent

04:46:24.660 is how they choose to act upon this privilege.

04:46:27.300 It's absolutely disgusting.

04:46:29.460 Big W to the two ladies next to Brian.

04:46:32.020 Thank you, Scott, for your TTS.

04:46:35.160 I very much appreciate your message.

04:46:37.400 And let me just finish my point, though, on this.

04:46:41.120 So I would, when it comes to plastic surgery, I'd prefer a girl with an A cup, even flat, over fake tits.

04:46:48.100 I'll prefer a little belly over lipo, small ass over BBL, small upper lip over lip fillers,

04:46:56.800 and a giant labia instead of labiaplasty, which you got, which is like the most just dagger in the heart.

04:47:08.560 Oops, my heart's over there.

04:47:09.440 Sounds like it's...

04:47:09.900 Soul crushing.

04:47:11.020 Otherwise, I sound like I fit that description.

04:47:13.040 So everything, I was like...

04:47:15.380 I was like, it sounds like he's describing me.

04:47:18.320 I'm like, they literally called me out for like A cup bimbo.

04:47:22.020 Wait, why did you...

04:47:23.040 Laugh?

04:47:23.680 No, you like looked down at your...

04:47:25.240 I just put on my sweater.

04:47:26.440 Oh, okay, okay.

04:47:27.200 I don't know why you...

04:47:28.100 Does anyone here have plastic surgery?

04:47:32.120 No.

04:47:32.740 Well, you have the...

04:47:33.640 What do you have?

04:47:35.260 Labioplasty?

04:47:35.820 Yep.

04:47:36.460 Anything else?

04:47:37.280 Lips?

04:47:37.400 No, just my lips.

04:47:38.960 Just your lips?

04:47:39.360 And Botox.

04:47:40.960 Tonsils.

04:47:42.260 Not exactly plastic surgery.

04:47:46.580 Got you, I...

04:47:48.260 Plastic surgery?

04:47:49.280 No.

04:47:49.680 Plastic surgery?

04:47:50.400 Plastic surgery?

04:47:51.100 Plastic surgery?

04:47:53.460 Lip filler?

04:47:54.220 Lip filler is not plastic surgery, but I do have lip filler.

04:47:57.940 I wanted to be a plastic surgeon.

04:47:59.260 Plastic surgery is going under the knife.

04:48:01.220 It's anesthesia.

04:48:01.860 How about...

04:48:02.180 It's anesthesia.

04:48:03.700 Is it under the purview of cosmetic surgery?

04:48:06.740 But it's not surgery.

04:48:08.060 Cosmetic procedure.

04:48:08.800 It's not surgery.

04:48:09.400 Okay.

04:48:09.480 Well, it's a...

04:48:11.980 Any cosmetic procedures then?

04:48:14.860 It's an injection.

04:48:16.100 Yes.

04:48:16.440 Lip filler.

04:48:16.820 That's it.

04:48:17.220 Natalie?

04:48:17.680 No.

04:48:19.000 Okay.

04:48:20.100 Yeah.

04:48:21.700 Yeah.

04:48:22.300 See, I'm a feminist in that regard.

04:48:24.560 Uh-huh.

04:48:24.900 I'm a feminist.

04:48:25.760 I'm so against plastic surgery, cosmetic procedures, I guess.

04:48:32.380 You feel me?

04:48:33.240 Yeah.

04:48:33.820 Mostly.

04:48:34.440 Well, I'm just against our...

04:48:37.680 The U.S.'s hospital and stuff.

04:48:40.540 I like Western medicine more because the U.S. likes to, like, treat symptoms.

04:48:46.500 What?

04:48:47.140 Do you mean Eastern medicine?

04:48:48.960 I mean, sorry.

04:48:49.700 Yeah.

04:48:49.980 The U.S. treats symptoms in Western...

04:48:52.260 Stop it.

04:48:54.180 Get some help.

04:48:56.320 Thank you.

04:48:56.920 I need it.

04:48:58.140 Um, yeah.

04:48:59.920 My point exact.

04:49:01.000 Oh, stay safe.

04:49:01.860 I don't know if you're still in the chat, but...

04:49:03.680 He's a brave and a decent man.

04:49:05.300 He's a pioneer.

04:49:06.520 Thank you.

04:49:06.900 Stay safe.

04:49:07.300 Appreciate the rate.

04:49:07.920 Okay.

04:49:09.120 Uh, yeah.

04:49:10.560 I think we should ban plastic surgery.

04:49:12.480 How about that?

04:49:13.100 Yes.

04:49:14.440 Is that a radical position?

04:49:16.000 Yeah, that's a little wild.

04:49:17.700 Yeah, I don't know about banning.

04:49:18.600 I think we would have less 12-year-olds looking like 18-year-olds, yeah.

04:49:22.640 I don't know if 12-year-olds are...

04:49:23.120 Well, I mean, if I never told you I got a labiaplasty, there's no way any of you would

04:49:27.320 know.

04:49:28.480 It's a thing for, like, myself that I got while I was celibate.

04:49:31.900 I would know.

04:49:32.640 How would you know?

04:49:33.400 I would know.

04:49:35.160 I just wouldn't know.

04:49:37.000 I don't know how I would know, but I would know.

04:49:39.920 I would know.

04:49:40.660 Is that a dare, Brian?

04:49:42.080 Wait, what?

04:49:42.600 No.

04:49:44.000 No.

04:49:45.020 No.

04:49:46.160 Now, I'll say this.

04:49:47.300 If you're dating a guy and he's pressuring you to get plastic...

04:49:50.880 Yeah, that's fucked up.

04:49:51.240 That's a major red flag for the ladies.

04:49:53.740 I would strongly advise you should probably break up with him.

04:49:57.520 Mm-hmm.

04:49:58.320 If you got A-cups and he's like, babe, let me buy you some titties, how would you...

04:50:03.700 Well, I'm curious.

04:50:04.380 How would you react?

04:50:06.660 Buy.

04:50:07.020 Would you be like, okay?

04:50:08.360 Find a bitch with whatever you want.

04:50:10.500 Or would you be like, fuck you?

04:50:12.960 Find a bitch that you want to meet.

04:50:13.980 What about you?

04:50:14.740 If your boyfriend...

04:50:15.640 I'll take some titties.

04:50:17.340 Oh, no.

04:50:18.260 Don't.

04:50:18.820 Oh, no.

04:50:19.460 Don't do it.

04:50:21.800 I'm not advocating for them.

04:50:23.300 I'm happy with myself, but I'll take some titties.

04:50:25.240 You'll take titties?

04:50:26.140 I'll take some titties.

04:50:27.080 If the titties are free, you'll take the titties.

04:50:29.160 If the titties are free, I'm taking the titties.

04:50:30.920 She takes free titties.

04:50:31.780 I would as well, but not because he's recommending it.

04:50:35.640 I'm disappointed in you.

04:50:36.860 I'm sorry.

04:50:37.240 I'm not mad.

04:50:38.020 I'm just disappointed.

04:50:39.020 I do want titties, but it's not because anyone's asking me to or pressuring me to.

04:50:43.700 I just want them.

04:50:46.840 So if my boyfriend was like, I think you should get boobs, I'd be like, the fuck?

04:50:51.140 But if I'm like, I want boobs, can you pay for them?

04:50:53.240 I think that's fair.

04:50:54.040 Okay.

04:50:55.360 What about you?

04:50:56.140 I don't really get the question.

04:50:57.600 Like, would I take the...

04:50:58.200 Like, if a guy wanted to get you...

04:51:00.300 And it could be like, if a guy wanted to...

04:51:02.200 Change something about you.

04:51:03.840 Like, he wanted to get you a BBL or lip filler or something like that.

04:51:07.640 I would say no.

04:51:07.680 Goodbye.

04:51:08.260 It'd be kind of weird, right?

04:51:09.240 Yeah, I would also probably say no.

04:51:11.740 It's almost like...

04:51:12.640 Oh, sorry.

04:51:12.980 Go ahead.

04:51:13.420 Oh, that's a hell no for me.

04:51:15.000 Yeah.

04:51:15.140 It's like that guy who waves the big red flag running around.

04:51:18.760 Yeah.

04:51:19.700 Immediate red flag.

04:51:20.740 Yeah, no.

04:51:22.260 No.

04:51:22.760 Can I make a prediction, though?

04:51:24.240 Sure.

04:51:25.100 Okay.

04:51:25.400 I think that they have gone out of their way to normalize men being feminine in a host

04:51:30.940 of ways, particularly, like, wearing dresses and wearing skirts.

04:51:34.200 I think in the near future, you are going to start seeing the normalization of plastic

04:51:40.320 surgery for men.

04:51:41.840 And not, like, in the way that some men get it, but I think, like, lip fillers and stuff

04:51:46.320 like that.

04:51:46.740 It's more common in...

04:51:47.940 Yeah, back in East, especially in Asia.

04:51:50.720 I think it's going to be a...

04:51:52.440 Wear the makeup.

04:51:53.240 Think about it.

04:51:53.960 Sephora.

04:51:54.360 Right, you go to Sephora, and you just see, like, dudes everywhere on the walls.

04:51:59.260 I think it's already a thing.

04:52:00.900 It's just more subtle.

04:52:01.980 It's, like, definitely a thing already that men get things done.

04:52:05.060 It's very popular in Asia.

04:52:07.620 Men wearing makeup, base, concealer.

04:52:11.200 Well, that's their culture, you know?

04:52:13.600 Failed society.

04:52:15.520 But that's their culture.

04:52:16.900 Terrible.

04:52:17.100 Men's hate makeup in general, though.

04:52:18.320 It's not just, like, for that specifically.

04:52:20.840 You hate when women wear makeup.

04:52:22.380 Journey Life.

04:52:23.480 Can you read this one?

04:52:24.920 Some of you said you seek a traditional man that will pay, give an allowance, etc.

04:52:29.160 So I'm puzzled.

04:52:30.220 I'm not religious at all.

04:52:31.380 But the three that agreed to wait elevated your attractiveness to 20.

04:52:34.740 Forget looks.

04:52:35.400 I'll stick with you for life.

04:52:36.480 Good values for kids.

04:52:37.900 Do I have to convert?

04:52:39.360 To what?

04:52:42.880 To Christianity?

04:52:43.700 Is that what he's talking about?

04:52:47.020 Wait.

04:52:48.140 Who here wants, like, a traditional dynamic with a guy?

04:52:52.520 Show of hands on this.

04:52:54.020 What did you say traditional?

04:52:55.520 Traditional dynamic.

04:52:58.120 Chivalry.

04:52:58.820 He pays for dates.

04:53:03.060 And that's it.

04:53:03.960 That's the only two.

04:53:04.800 I mean, those sound good.

04:53:06.320 They sound good.

04:53:07.880 I don't know if I would say traditional.

04:53:08.580 To the car door.

04:53:09.980 Be nice.

04:53:11.640 Well, you can be nice and not traditional, I suppose.

04:53:14.260 I know, so that's how I feel.

04:53:20.360 Wait, so who should, how about this?

04:53:23.100 Who should pay on the, who do you think should pay on the first date, starting with you?

04:53:29.400 My answer is going to be stupid.

04:53:32.060 You could just answer the question.

04:53:35.040 Just say the stupid thing.

04:53:36.540 And then we'll move on.

04:53:37.520 I think both of us could pay.

04:53:39.720 We could go half and half.

04:53:40.760 I don't think that's stupid.

04:53:41.640 Thank you for wasting five seconds.

04:53:43.200 Whoever initiates the date should pay.

04:53:45.000 Whoever initiates the date should pay.

04:53:46.680 Okay.

04:53:47.480 I think that can be the case once you're in a relationship, but I think on the first date,

04:53:51.840 a male should pay.

04:53:55.580 Would you prefer the guy to pay for the first date?

04:53:58.600 Yeah.

04:53:59.400 Okay.

04:53:59.760 I think that's natural for like any animal kingdom type thing.

04:54:04.040 Let me frame it like, let me frame it like this for you.

04:54:06.640 Because you said whoever asked should pay, which sort of glances over the fact that in

04:54:10.840 95, 99% of situations, men are asking women out on dates, not the reverse.

04:54:16.540 If a guy asked you out on a date and on the date, he was like, hey, the waiter comes by

04:54:24.600 and he says, hey, two bills, please.

04:54:26.640 Would you feel a certain type of way about that?

04:54:29.220 I would.

04:54:29.960 Would there not be a second date?

04:54:33.700 It would be negative, right?

04:54:35.320 It depends how good the date is.

04:54:37.260 Maybe he's down bad.

04:54:39.860 Maybe he's real down bad.

04:54:41.480 He should not be pursuing you and asking you on a date.

04:54:45.160 That is true.

04:54:46.480 Maybe you shouldn't invite someone on a date if you can't pay for them.

04:54:49.340 Oh, he can pay, but he wants to split.

04:54:51.500 Oh, okay.

04:54:53.000 I don't know about that.

04:54:53.780 That would give the wrong impression.

04:54:55.200 You're not trying to court them.

04:54:57.360 Why does that give that impression?

04:55:00.180 What do you mean?

04:55:00.780 You're trying to win over this girl.

04:55:01.720 You could still have a romantic interest in somebody and want to split the bill.

04:55:06.700 Yeah, but why are you asking a girl on a date if you're expecting her to pay?

04:55:12.240 What do you mean?

04:55:13.560 Like I said, once you get into a relationship, right?

04:55:16.280 Whoever initiates it, then I'm like, okay, if I ask you to specifically go somewhere, I'll pay for it.

04:55:23.420 Nickelodeon donated $100.

04:55:26.120 Brian, please put this miserable witch out of her misery and throw a glass of water in her face.

04:55:32.220 Best case scenario, it cleans that spunk out of her eyes.

04:55:37.060 No, I'm not going to throw water on any of my guests, but thank you, man.

04:55:41.140 I appreciate the sentiment, I guess.

04:55:43.640 Thank you.

04:55:44.100 Thank you, Nickelodeon.

04:55:45.240 Appreciate it.

04:55:45.740 Thank you, Nickelodeon.

04:55:47.100 Go ahead.

04:55:47.880 Go ahead.

04:55:48.540 I have an interesting...

04:55:50.520 So I was on a podcast a couple weeks ago, Access Vegas, with Michael Sartain and Rolo.

04:55:54.860 Yeah.

04:55:55.280 Red pill people, too.

04:55:57.440 And they asked all the guys in the room if they'd ever initiated a date without the intention of having sex, and none of them raised their hands.

04:56:05.300 And then they asked all the women if they've ever gone on a date without the intention of having sex, and all of them raised their hands.

04:56:11.780 But then the thing I want to get your opinion on is I think it's fair if a man has the intention of wanting to have sex with a woman because he ultimately finds her attractive, and that's part of that, and it's okay.

04:56:24.180 But I think also on a woman's perspective, it's not necessarily a bad thing because you could be giving someone a chance that you may not have otherwise to get to know them.

04:56:33.400 What are your thoughts?

04:56:35.180 You mean if the woman goes on a date with a guy who she has not yet determined if she wants to have sex with him?

04:56:40.800 But so is that, the question is, is that fair or good or gives her an opportunity?

04:56:47.160 Yeah, what's your thoughts on it in general?

04:56:50.240 I don't object.

04:56:51.540 I don't object to it if you haven't made a determination whether you want to have sex with this person or not.

04:56:57.100 And you go, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

04:57:00.000 Okay.

04:57:00.400 You can go, I don't think women are obliged to go.

04:57:03.700 The only scenario where you can go on a date with a man is if you want to have sex with him.

04:57:07.820 I don't think that that has to be the case.

04:57:11.000 I think you should have a genuine romantic interest and not just be going on the date because you're bored or want a free meal.

04:57:16.920 I'm not saying all women do that, but some do.

04:57:20.360 Okay.

04:57:21.360 What were they arguing, that the woman has to want to fuck the guy?

04:57:24.740 They're like, that's crazy.

04:57:25.460 Well, just saying like, of course a man wants to have sex with a woman.

04:57:28.740 I'm like, yeah, I agree with you.

04:57:30.240 Of course a man would want to have sex with a woman that he's spending his resources on.

04:57:34.020 Right.

04:57:34.580 But that's what I agree, like a man should pay for the first time.

04:57:36.460 I mean, I would agree that most men, if they're wanting to go on a date with you, they've probably already made a determination that you're attractive enough to have sex with.

04:57:45.600 Although I've had situations where I've gone on a date with a girl, wanted to have sex with her, and she kind of talked herself out of that shit.

04:57:54.100 I'm like, ooh, I don't really like you anymore.

04:57:58.120 So there's that.

04:57:59.780 And I differ from some guys.

04:58:01.580 Like some guys are like, yo, I'm still going to hit, but she's a fucking terrible person.

04:58:06.360 I'm like, nah, I'm just, I just can't do it.

04:58:10.220 I need to like the girl a little bit.

04:58:13.000 Thanks, babe.

04:58:13.680 Appreciate it.

04:58:14.100 A little banter here.

04:58:18.780 Just a little banter.

04:58:19.580 Thank you.

04:58:19.640 Jeez, okay.

04:58:20.060 I wasn't sure if you were talking at me, but you were looking right at me, so I was like.

04:58:22.960 Oh my god, okay.

04:58:23.860 Are we having a moment?

04:58:25.080 No, just don't, don't, don't over, don't overthink it.

04:58:28.600 I'm blushing.

04:58:29.460 Don't overthink it.

04:58:31.480 Wait, we're going around the table.

04:58:32.620 Oh, who should pay?

04:58:33.920 I would prefer if he paid.

04:58:35.480 Prefer if the guy pays?

04:58:37.260 I think whoever initiated it should pay.

04:58:40.140 But more often than not, who initiates?

04:58:42.500 Men.

04:58:43.180 Okay.

04:58:44.120 What about you?

04:58:44.660 I think you split down the middle.

04:58:47.640 My girl.

04:58:48.500 Okay.

04:58:48.860 I totally agree.

04:58:50.020 I think it's split down the middle, at least for the first couple dates.

04:58:53.380 And if he's insistent that he pay, then I'll usually always offer to tip or get dessert.

04:59:00.120 And once I'm in a relationship with somebody, I like to do the you pay, I pay, you pay, I pay.

04:59:06.440 Okay.

04:59:06.640 What about you?

04:59:08.160 I'm a traditional woman, so I expect a man to step into his masculinity and be the provider.

04:59:13.720 Because I'll be feminine and submissive.

04:59:15.920 Sure.

04:59:16.960 Dinner dates are overrated, but the guy.

04:59:20.960 Okay.

04:59:22.100 Yeah.

04:59:24.040 See, okay, one follow-up question, then I'll give my take on this.

04:59:27.900 Would you, if you get married, when you get married, would you take the guy's last name?

04:59:37.540 Yes.

04:59:38.980 Depends on if it's a cool last name.

04:59:41.060 Well, hold on.

04:59:42.200 But hold on.

04:59:43.100 Traditional gender roles, such as men paying for the first date, traditional gender roles would seem to dictate that you should take the man's last name in the case of marriage.

04:59:53.340 They do.

04:59:54.820 What if he has a shitty last name?

04:59:56.520 Doesn't matter.

04:59:58.000 Doesn't matter.

04:59:58.640 You take it anyways.

05:00:00.020 But okay, I'll go around the table before.

05:00:02.000 Yeah, I would take my husband's last name.

05:00:03.480 Would you take your husband's last name?

05:00:04.820 I mean, I guess I can't say that yet, but I wouldn't be opposed to it.

05:00:08.700 Wouldn't be opposed.

05:00:09.440 But hold on, no, no, no.

05:00:10.340 It's not just that.

05:00:11.560 If you want traditional treatment, don't you.

05:00:13.540 I never said I wanted.

05:00:14.520 You said you want the guy to pay for the first date.

05:00:16.340 No, I get to pick and choose.

05:00:16.920 Huh?

05:00:17.240 I get to pick and choose.

05:00:18.400 What do you mean, pick and choose?

05:00:19.900 Ah, equality.

05:00:20.980 The buffet.

05:00:21.920 It's a buffet.

05:00:22.500 You get to pick and choose the thing that benefits you and those that, okay.

05:00:27.360 That's my answer.

05:00:28.040 But you actually admitted to you want to pick and choose the things that benefit you when it comes to traditional gender roles?

05:00:35.580 I mean, I'm probably going to take his last name, but I just haven't thought about it until right now.

05:00:42.100 So I can't say it confidently.

05:00:43.600 And I also really like my last name.

05:00:45.380 Okay, so that seems like it would be a begrudging.

05:00:48.320 I would have to think about it.

05:00:49.240 Let's say he has a bad last name.

05:00:51.480 How bad?

05:00:52.260 Give me an example.

05:00:53.300 Yeah, give a bad name.

05:00:54.280 I think I'd like it.

05:00:55.180 Finkel.

05:00:55.940 Oh, my God.

05:00:56.360 I don't even know where I'm at.

05:00:57.160 Taylor Finkel.

05:00:58.320 I can see it.

05:00:59.880 Taylor Finkel, everybody.

05:01:01.800 How about Mrs. Finkel?

05:01:03.600 I don't know.

05:01:04.100 Mrs. Finkel.

05:01:04.880 You can't.

05:01:05.280 I don't think that's that bad.

05:01:06.740 I think that's a pretty good one.

05:01:08.260 Corn donger.

05:01:10.920 That's even better.

05:01:11.720 Corn donger.

05:01:13.120 I don't know.

05:01:13.700 I don't care about the last name.

05:01:14.820 I would take it.

05:01:15.440 Just to make things, like, easier.

05:01:16.700 But to me, that's not like a, I don't think I'm, like, giving up a part of myself.

05:01:24.880 But that's how tradition is.

05:01:26.180 Fokker.

05:01:26.300 I get your point.

05:01:27.380 What about Fokker?

05:01:27.900 I love that.

05:01:29.400 Fokker?

05:01:29.680 Taylor Fokker.

05:01:30.260 Right.

05:01:30.480 That kind of sounds sick to me better.

05:01:32.540 I might change it now.

05:01:33.860 Oh, my God.

05:01:34.600 To me, I just don't think that's a good deal.

05:01:35.980 I don't think it's that big of a deal.

05:01:37.080 Wait, so, but you said that you want to pick and choose.

05:01:40.340 I was kind of kidding, but.

05:01:41.300 No, you're being serious.

05:01:42.160 You're being serious.

05:01:42.500 To start this conversation, are you traditional or not?

05:01:44.540 And I said, like, what is traditional?

05:01:46.800 Like, I have some that are traditional and some that aren't.

05:01:48.960 Would you take your husband's last name?

05:01:51.000 I would, like, add it to mine.

05:01:52.980 You'd hyphenate it?

05:01:53.480 Like, hyphenate it, yeah.

05:01:54.560 But you want a guy to pay for the first date?

05:01:56.740 I said whoever initiated the first date would pay.

05:02:01.140 Do you frequently initiate first dates?

05:02:03.340 Yes, I have.

05:02:04.920 You have, but more often than not.

05:02:07.160 I have, multiple times, actually.

05:02:08.900 And do you pay, or do you split?

05:02:10.380 Yeah, if I'm taking them out, I ask them on a date, I'm going to pay for them.

05:02:13.800 First date, first date.

05:02:14.060 Not boyfriend, not guy you're seeing.

05:02:15.660 First date.

05:02:16.220 Yes.

05:02:17.100 I'm concap on this.

05:02:18.240 Okay, whatever.

05:02:19.660 I can actually be here on the testimony for her.

05:02:22.820 Two people here can contest it for me.

05:02:25.100 Okay.

05:02:25.920 Whatever.

05:02:27.240 Okay, what about you?

05:02:28.540 Well, you said it should be split, right?

05:02:30.960 Yes.

05:02:31.340 Yeah, okay.

05:02:31.780 But I would take on his last name.

05:02:34.220 Actually, here's my position.

05:02:35.620 I want the girl to want to split, but I'll just pay for it.

05:02:39.480 Well, yeah, you always say, oh, I'll split it.

05:02:42.360 And then they're supposed to say it.

05:02:43.100 Yeah, I hate it.

05:02:43.500 The first one, no.

05:02:44.520 The first one, no.

05:02:45.180 I actually, no, let me go.

05:02:46.880 After that, I'm like, oh.

05:02:47.500 I hate guys who just talk.

05:02:49.400 Let me just go even.

05:02:50.640 That's great.

05:02:52.600 What?

05:02:53.460 Dwork.

05:02:55.000 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

05:02:58.980 I'll go even further.

05:03:00.220 I want the girl to want to pay for everything, but I want, I'll pay.

05:03:05.420 Actually, you know what?

05:03:06.540 What if she makes more money than you?

05:03:08.180 I want her to simp.

05:03:09.560 And actually, I'll just let her pay.

05:03:11.080 I'll just let her pay.

05:03:11.800 She can simp.

05:03:12.200 Oh, God.

05:03:12.400 The childhood.

05:03:12.900 That's like the most base thing ever.

05:03:14.820 What was your question?

05:03:15.820 If she makes more money than you.

05:03:16.900 If she makes more money?

05:03:17.040 You said you want to marry a girl that's rich.

05:03:18.340 I would be willing to marry a woman who makes more money than me.

05:03:20.740 Makes more money than you, but you pay for everything.

05:03:23.140 That's the only.

05:03:23.420 Because she wants to pay for everything.

05:03:25.000 Wait, what's the question?

05:03:25.580 He wants her to really want to.

05:03:27.140 No, no, no.

05:03:27.620 That's what I'm saying.

05:03:28.780 If a girl made more than you.

05:03:30.520 Yeah.

05:03:30.680 And she wanted, she went to reach for the bill every time, but you paid anyway.

05:03:35.820 Would you still pay if she made more money than you?

05:03:38.400 Or like.

05:03:38.900 No, I'd let her pay.

05:03:40.080 Really?

05:03:40.660 Yeah, she can pay for everything.

05:03:42.780 I still want to lead, though.

05:03:46.920 What's your sign?

05:03:48.500 What's your sign?

05:03:49.940 I know that's stupid, but what is it?

05:03:52.080 It kind of is.

05:03:56.220 What's your sign?

05:03:57.480 I'm a tourist.

05:03:58.100 Okay, I'll tell you after the show.

05:04:01.740 What the fuck?

05:04:02.520 Why can't you say it during the show?

05:04:04.100 I don't want to say it during the show.

05:04:05.760 Oh, you don't want them to know?

05:04:06.640 Yeah, I don't want any witches out there to fucking cast some like Capricorn shit.

05:04:10.560 No one's going to know everything from your sun sign.

05:04:12.820 I don't know, bro.

05:04:13.420 I've talked to some fucking witches, bro.

05:04:16.260 You don't know.

05:04:17.400 You haven't seen the things I've seen.

05:04:19.600 When's your birthday?

05:04:19.880 You haven't seen.

05:04:20.820 When's your birthday?

05:04:21.380 Bro, I'm not telling you my birthday.

05:04:23.400 Anyways, moving on.

05:04:24.660 Moving on.

05:04:25.060 Yeah, most of the time I'll just pay.

05:04:28.900 She's trying to fight right now?

05:04:29.580 I'll pay.

05:04:30.880 But it's kind of dope if she's such a simp that she wants to pay.

05:04:35.160 That's kind of dope.

05:04:35.860 That's a good dynamic.

05:04:37.380 Okay.

05:04:39.060 Okay.

05:04:39.720 All right.

05:04:40.080 Cool.

05:04:40.780 Good talk.

05:04:41.620 Hold on.

05:04:42.200 We got some more notes here.

05:04:43.820 Wait, you didn't finish.

05:04:44.860 Oh, sorry.

05:04:45.300 Sorry.

05:04:45.500 My bad.

05:04:46.120 I took my husband's last name and I was really stoked to take his last name because I really

05:04:50.080 liked it.

05:04:50.560 Good for you.

05:04:51.020 Yes, I'd gladly take my husband's last name.

05:04:53.860 Of course.

05:04:54.940 There you have it, folks.

05:04:56.560 There you have it.

05:04:57.860 There's this, we had this girl on the show who, she made this joke.

05:05:01.540 She went viral, actually.

05:05:02.920 And maybe, Nick, you can pull it up.

05:05:04.340 It was the girl who, she did a TikTok and she, it was about paying for the first date.

05:05:09.820 It was the one that Chase was on.

05:05:12.620 Do you remember what I'm talking about, Nick?

05:05:16.280 She was like, oh, that's funny.

05:05:18.700 Like, if a guy ever offered on a date to split the bill, she would be like, oh, that's funny.

05:05:23.600 I didn't know that we were, that this was like a friend date.

05:05:26.760 Just friends.

05:05:27.460 Classy.

05:05:27.860 It was a TikTok.

05:05:29.480 And then she came on the show.

05:05:31.300 We had her on the show.

05:05:32.160 Is that the girl that said, oh my God, I'm so embarrassed?

05:05:34.940 I don't know, but let me finish my thing.

05:05:36.160 Yeah, it is.

05:05:36.800 Okay.

05:05:37.060 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one.

05:05:39.940 Oh, I'm so embarrassed.

05:05:41.720 Actually, play it and then I'll, I'll do the explanation.

05:05:46.180 Explanation.

05:05:46.840 Play what?

05:05:47.800 Do you have the, do you have it?

05:05:49.280 No, I'm looking for it.

05:05:50.440 What do you, what do I look up?

05:05:52.640 Girls, it's like maybe Google search.

05:05:55.320 There was a New York, New York Post article.

05:05:58.600 New York Post, girls' reaction to men paying for, not paying for the date, I think.

05:06:05.280 That might, that might find it.

05:06:08.700 Fuck, what was her name?

05:06:10.120 While you're doing that, I'm going to read some chats here.

05:06:13.040 Maybe not.

05:06:13.760 Wait, we did this one.

05:06:15.900 Brian, do you game?

05:06:16.980 If so, what are your games and what is your console?

05:06:19.080 I used to, I used to play video games.

05:06:21.340 I don't play anymore.

05:06:22.020 I haven't played any video games since like April 2020.

05:06:25.780 I, yeah, I used to play video games, used to play World of Warcraft, just, I'm too busy.

05:06:33.120 It takes up way too much.

05:06:34.080 Because I'm not like the type of guy when it comes to video games where I can like play

05:06:37.120 for an hour.

05:06:39.020 I'm, I'm like an addict.

05:06:41.460 So you were talking about yourself earlier.

05:06:42.540 I'm an addict with that shit.

05:06:43.740 14 hours a day.

05:06:44.700 If I'm going to play a video game, I'm going to play that shit all day.

05:06:49.020 So I have to, I just prevent myself from playing it all otherwise.

05:06:54.460 Yeah.

05:06:55.060 Are you good?

05:06:56.040 Like, I'm pretty, I was, I was pretty good.

05:06:58.320 Like I played Hearthstone.

05:07:00.140 I was, I hit Legend, World of Warcraft.

05:07:02.840 Like, you know, I was, I was in the top rating guild.

05:07:05.680 So you could like Twitch stream and like make money from it though?

05:07:09.180 Or no?

05:07:09.460 I wouldn't do it.

05:07:10.460 I don't want to, I wouldn't do that.

05:07:13.080 But Tori, I appreciate it.

05:07:13.900 You get addicted again.

05:07:15.640 I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's an addiction.

05:07:18.820 Addictive personality question mark.

05:07:20.280 I actually don't think I have an addictive personality, but with the video games, it's

05:07:25.100 hard to, like with World of Warcraft, it's hard to play for just an hour.

05:07:29.660 Like you want to keep playing that shit all fucking day.

05:07:34.860 So you found it?

05:07:38.180 Yes.

05:07:38.880 Go ahead.

05:07:40.780 When a man wants to go 50, 50 with you on a date, do this.

05:07:46.780 Oh my God.

05:07:49.060 I'm so embarrassed right now.

05:07:52.900 Wait, you wanted to just be friends?

05:07:57.580 Oh.

05:07:59.180 Was that, was it an ad or something?

05:08:01.140 Yeah.

05:08:04.340 There's more to it though.

05:08:05.940 Yeah.

05:08:06.340 If you're able to play the rest, just let the ad play on mute and then we'll, let me

05:08:11.840 see if there was any chats here.

05:08:13.220 Nope.

05:08:13.440 No chats there.

05:08:14.020 Guys go to chat.tv slash whatever.

05:08:15.860 Oh, there it is.

05:08:16.560 Okay.

05:08:16.800 Go ahead.

05:08:18.280 Hopefully.

05:08:19.600 Wait, what?

05:08:20.920 Oh, sorry.

05:08:21.520 Oh, just let it play.

05:08:22.200 Let it play.

05:08:22.620 Let it play.

05:08:22.980 Let's see if there's more.

05:08:23.620 Oh, it wasn't an ad.

05:08:26.240 It was just New York forced.

05:08:30.240 Okay.

05:08:31.120 It's lame that they won't let the whole thing play, but whatever.

05:08:33.300 You get the idea.

05:08:34.340 So she's like, oh, you, you want to split?

05:08:37.320 Oh, you wanted to be friends?

05:08:38.860 And then she came on the show and then we asked somehow the question of, would you take

05:08:43.680 your husband's last name?

05:08:45.080 Come on.

05:08:46.000 And she was like, well, no, I got it.

05:08:47.960 I like my last name.

05:08:49.100 I wouldn't take his last name.

05:08:50.240 And then Chase, who was my, who's one of the male guests on the show, he said, oh, I didn't

05:08:57.020 know you just wanted to be friends.

05:08:59.420 You don't want to take my last name.

05:09:01.860 That's cute.

05:09:02.780 Touche.

05:09:03.100 Lawyer, or I don't know what the, how the turntables, how the turntables.

05:09:11.320 Okay.

05:09:12.900 What?

05:09:13.460 What's that?

05:09:14.220 What do you want to say, Naomi?

05:09:15.480 Say it.

05:09:15.920 Say it.

05:09:17.720 I'm good.

05:09:18.400 It was just funny.

05:09:20.660 Okay.

05:09:22.060 Cool.

05:09:22.560 Thank you for sharing, Naomi.

05:09:23.560 That was great.

05:09:24.220 Oh, Natalie, you wanted to talk about princess treatment.

05:09:26.440 What you got for us?

05:09:27.640 Oh, yes.

05:09:28.340 Um, I think the term in and of itself is hypocritical because all women don't deserve princess treatment

05:09:38.740 because they are not princesses.

05:09:40.820 The inherent part of that is that you have a certain status.

05:09:43.980 You're born into something.

05:09:44.900 So you get treated a certain way out of factors that you can't control.

05:09:48.700 And I think a lot of women show up to relationships just looking what guys can do for them.

05:09:54.020 Um, and they don't necessarily deserve like the traditional relationship dynamic.

05:09:59.180 Um, but I think also there's just a weird trend of like very weird social media dating

05:10:03.920 advice for women, I think that makes you think like, it's all great to value yourself, but

05:10:09.120 like being a high value woman and how you date as a high value woman, and it's just sort

05:10:13.280 of, I don't know, maybe I get weird Instagram ads.

05:10:15.760 Um, but yeah, I just, I don't think, I don't agree with that term.

05:10:20.660 Yeah.

05:10:21.120 You give what you get.

05:10:21.940 Your ads are based on your, like, like your search history and what you say on your phone,

05:10:26.920 by the way.

05:10:28.180 I, I didn't know that.

05:10:30.180 Yes.

05:10:31.240 I think a lot of, you know, these people calling themselves queens, kings, I think it's kind

05:10:37.200 of cringe.

05:10:38.240 Like even both men.

05:10:40.160 What's that?

05:10:40.800 It's very entitled behavior.

05:10:42.480 Yeah.

05:10:42.680 Oh, I'm a queen.

05:10:43.560 I want princess treatment.

05:10:45.580 At best, I can offer you court jester treatment.

05:10:49.860 That's the best I can do.

05:10:52.500 Otherwise, you're going to get peasant treatment.

05:10:56.100 Surf.

05:10:56.660 I'll give you surf treatment.

05:10:57.900 You're a surf.

05:10:58.720 It goes back to, I think, the inflated sense of self, which I guess is maybe sort of the

05:11:03.240 hypergamous nature of women.

05:11:04.560 But if you view yourself, not as a literal princess, but like as deserving of that, I just think

05:11:10.740 you're showing up to relationships, looking for what you can get out of someone.

05:11:15.620 And nine times out of 10, women then like reject the traditional female role in a relationship.

05:11:20.160 I'm not going to cook.

05:11:20.900 I'm not going to clean.

05:11:21.660 And then it's like, well, what are you bringing to the table?

05:11:25.360 So basically what you're saying is, is that women should immediately, as soon as you meet

05:11:31.680 a guy, do his laundry.

05:11:33.780 I'm not saying that necessarily.

05:11:37.620 I just think.

05:11:38.280 That's what I'm saying.

05:11:39.400 Women show up sometimes, I think, with a delusional sense of self in relationships.

05:11:44.540 And they, they just want men to like do everything.

05:11:48.660 Yeah.

05:11:48.980 And they don't reciprocate.

05:11:51.040 And if you were to ask them to like do your laundry, they would literally be like, what

05:11:54.720 the heck?

05:11:55.300 This guy is like from the 17th century.

05:11:58.100 So backwards.

05:11:58.960 It's like, well, not, not really.

05:12:02.340 But I think that is also kind of female nature.

05:12:04.720 I feel that.

05:12:05.520 I don't really like the term like bring to the table either.

05:12:07.980 Because like in a relationship, I feel like you should be like building together and get

05:12:13.820 to that point where like you do submit to your man.

05:12:15.860 Because I, I do that naturally in relationships, even though I'm non-traditional.

05:12:19.240 Like I do want traditional relationship.

05:12:20.920 I've always been in traditional relationships.

05:12:22.760 So.

05:12:23.600 You, you want a traditional relationship?

05:12:26.460 Yeah, Brian.

05:12:27.900 We went over this.

05:12:28.660 It's going to be hard.

05:12:29.020 That's a hard sale.

05:12:30.260 That's a hard sale.

05:12:31.500 I think so.

05:12:32.220 You were in sales though.

05:12:33.440 So give me your hard pitch.

05:12:35.760 She was making a third though.

05:12:37.500 No, I'm kidding.

05:12:39.120 I wasn't at the end, but when I first started right out of college.

05:12:42.860 But like, do you, okay.

05:12:43.540 There's, there's videos of, I mean, you said you've done BG content, right?

05:12:47.820 So there's videos of you out on the internet, having sex with other men on camera.

05:12:54.700 I mean, maybe we got different definitions of what traditional is, but I feel like that's

05:12:59.960 not the most traditional.

05:13:02.320 And do you think traditional men want videos of their girlfriend or wife having sex with

05:13:09.020 another man out there on the internet?

05:13:10.880 Do you think that could be a sticking point for some men?

05:13:13.540 For sure.

05:13:14.240 It's not the pool that I will be dating in though, in terms of people that are not okay

05:13:17.880 with what I do.

05:13:18.960 But it doesn't, it doesn't really reek of being traditional, but you really want a traditional

05:13:25.440 relationship dynamic.

05:13:26.440 And we'll actually, to almost make your, make an argument for you, I think the sad state

05:13:33.020 of affairs is you might actually, you've probably got a good chance of actually getting it.

05:13:40.500 Yeah, I do.

05:13:41.140 Now, now here's, but here's my argument though.

05:13:45.000 I think because there's a lot of simps out there and a lot of men who will bend over

05:13:48.140 backwards for the ladies.

05:13:56.420 I don't know if you deserve it, but you're going to get it anyways.

05:14:01.880 That's your opinion.

05:14:02.880 Which I kind of object to.

05:14:03.380 And that's totally okay.

05:14:04.060 I respect that.

05:14:04.960 I respect her opinion too on that.

05:14:06.660 You both said like, I don't deserve it.

05:14:08.420 Yeah.

05:14:09.400 Y'all said that.

05:14:10.520 But regardless.

05:14:11.080 I think she's going to get it.

05:14:12.600 She's going to get it anyways, because like men.

05:14:14.160 No, she will.

05:14:15.180 She will.

05:14:15.620 Men will.

05:14:17.000 Thank you.

05:14:18.620 Because like, there's a lot of cope.

05:14:20.340 Like, I do think there's a lot of cope where guys are like, oh, she, she did OF, like her,

05:14:26.160 her prospects are forever ruined.

05:14:29.120 And it's like, you do close the doors on some guys, but like there will be a, there will

05:14:34.340 be a guy and we don't know if he's secretly a cuck or a feeder or whatever he might be.

05:14:40.600 Watch out.

05:14:41.320 You might get her treatment.

05:14:42.620 I'm king friendly, so it's okay.

05:14:44.560 He's going to fatten you up.

05:14:46.280 You won't know though.

05:14:47.960 He's going to get you fucking, I mean, your metabolism's good, I hope.

05:14:51.540 Yeah.

05:14:51.760 He's still going to try though.

05:14:53.320 I eat a lot.

05:14:54.800 He's going to inject lard into the cookies.

05:14:58.320 Here, babe.

05:14:59.060 Here's a cookie.

05:14:59.520 Hey, I'm traditional.

05:15:00.520 I would be baking.

05:15:01.240 I'm actually a good baker.

05:15:02.100 You're going to be traditional?

05:15:03.700 I'm going to be Nara Smith one day.

05:15:05.240 You're going to be who?

05:15:06.120 Nara Smith.

05:15:06.660 You know, this is like the weirdest intuition I have with you, but like when I look at

05:15:12.240 Oh my God.

05:15:13.580 Hold on.

05:15:13.820 Sorry.

05:15:13.980 Jack underscore Pliadis underscore Chavante donated $100.

05:15:18.640 Men are not afforded X, but if they were, the list would be top three Disney royalty references.

05:15:23.780 The phrase and affirmation of get your bag, girl and celibate labioplasty, self-involved madness.

05:15:31.480 Girl and celibate, self-involved madness.

05:15:35.440 Jack Pliadis.

05:15:37.140 Affirmation, get your bag, girl.

05:15:38.160 Chavante.

05:15:39.380 We're not a match.

05:15:40.440 That's okay.

05:15:41.600 Affirmation.

05:15:42.220 It's all good.

05:15:42.680 What were you saying about that?

05:15:43.480 I was, this is like the most like fringe intuition.

05:15:47.320 I feel like you would have like a, you would have one season of a reality show on A&E.

05:15:55.880 Okay.

05:15:57.540 But that would, that would be it.

05:15:59.340 Just one season?

05:16:00.280 Like a reality show, like an offshoot, like a total C tier offshoot of the Kardashians.

05:16:06.380 Okay.

05:16:07.040 I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult, but that's the intuition I have.

05:16:11.720 If she did, would you watch it?

05:16:14.120 Well, no, I wouldn't watch it.

05:16:15.600 I think you would, right?

05:16:16.000 Yeah, I think you would.

05:16:16.960 You came up with this in your own head.

05:16:18.540 Yeah, you're glad you were thinking about it.

05:16:20.200 This was entirely like a thought of yours.

05:16:23.980 I don't know.

05:16:24.620 I didn't come up with that.

05:16:25.180 Yeah, that was just a thought.

05:16:26.080 I think honestly though, like, let's think about that.

05:16:28.440 There's a lot more to me and I know you guys don't know me, right?

05:16:31.700 There's a lot more to me.

05:16:32.500 I don't have to defend myself, but like there's a lot more to me than like this.

05:16:34.440 I don't know if I was attacking you.

05:16:35.720 I don't think I was attacking you.

05:16:37.300 I'm just like OnlyFans itself.

05:16:39.080 So, I think we would actually get along.

05:16:42.860 I mean, we do get along really well, right?

05:16:44.480 But we get along outside of the game and when we're not debating things.

05:16:50.800 I'm just confused why.

05:16:52.980 What?

05:16:54.820 Wait, what?

05:16:55.540 Okay.

05:16:56.260 Wait, okay.

05:16:56.800 Let's.

05:16:57.360 I want to get through my.

05:16:57.580 Like I'm a good person at the end of the day.

05:16:59.540 Yeah, I do only.

05:17:00.240 I don't know.

05:17:01.920 I'm not saying you're not.

05:17:02.820 I just, I don't know you that well.

05:17:05.820 That's what I said.

05:17:06.800 That's how I started the statement.

05:17:08.380 Like sometimes I look at you and I'm like, is this the Antichrist?

05:17:13.540 Sorry, what?

05:17:14.620 Ryan.

05:17:15.340 I don't know.

05:17:15.920 I get this like demon energy from you.

05:17:18.160 I get some demon vibes, bro.

05:17:20.380 I'm clipping that.

05:17:21.240 I'm clipping that.

05:17:21.440 Like there's something in your eyes.

05:17:23.540 I'm like.

05:17:25.100 Are you drawing in or what?

05:17:26.220 No, I'm kind of scared, dude.

05:17:28.260 I'm terrified, bro.

05:17:30.620 There's something evil.

05:17:32.300 I'm kidding.

05:17:32.800 Maybe it's me.

05:17:33.680 But am I?

05:17:34.400 But I'm kind of, I'm just kidding.

05:17:35.720 But I'm serious.

05:17:36.480 You let me come back on.

05:17:37.580 Maybe it's so mean.

05:17:38.340 I don't think like, I don't think you mean that.

05:17:42.160 Sometimes you must confront evil and shine the light upon it.

05:17:47.060 All that which is exposed to the light itself becomes light.

05:17:50.840 Okay, so I'll see you same time next month or?

05:17:54.440 Are you flirting, Brian?

05:17:55.640 No, I'm just.

05:17:56.880 What's going on?

05:17:58.260 It's giving flirting.

05:17:58.900 I'm not flirting.

05:17:59.940 I just called her evil and the Antichrist.

05:18:02.880 You know how boys flirt?

05:18:04.040 You know how boys flirt?

05:18:05.020 You know how boys flirt?

05:18:05.680 I can.

05:18:06.520 I don't know.

05:18:07.360 This is going to be an E day.

05:18:08.760 I'm sorry, guys.

05:18:09.480 We have these once in a while.

05:18:10.940 No.

05:18:11.220 I mean, it is six to seven hours to be fair.

05:18:13.640 Yes, I'm flirting.

05:18:14.440 I called her evil.

05:18:15.600 That's really sweet, though.

05:18:17.020 She's evil.

05:18:18.060 You can find better ways to find that.

05:18:19.260 Now you understand why.

05:18:20.400 I'm not trying to flirt.

05:18:21.840 You're not trying to, but you are.

05:18:23.560 Here, I'll make intuitions about all of you.

05:18:29.280 That would be fair.

05:18:30.420 Oh, God.

05:18:32.380 Go ahead.

05:18:33.320 All right.

05:18:33.980 All Lord, hail Jesus before you start.

05:18:41.160 Do you want a word?

05:18:41.980 You're going to live an interesting life.

05:18:44.820 Thank you.

05:18:45.840 I don't know if that's a compliment.

05:18:48.100 It is.

05:18:50.440 That's my intuition speaking.

05:18:52.240 Wait, you're speaking out of intuition.

05:18:54.000 I just realized that.

05:18:55.120 And you just.

05:18:56.340 Yeah, I'm manifesting right now.

05:18:58.320 No, that's not manifestation.

05:18:59.480 That's why I don't have my own reality TV show.

05:19:00.320 That's not manifestation.

05:19:01.820 You're just speaking out of intuition.

05:19:02.880 I think you're going to get a fuck ton more tattoos.

05:19:05.600 You're going to date a bunch more abusive men.

05:19:09.300 Don't put that on her.

05:19:10.420 Don't put that on me.

05:19:11.440 Thank you.

05:19:12.320 That's what I'm projecting.

05:19:14.180 I'm sorry.

05:19:14.920 You're projecting that?

05:19:16.640 So have you been abused?

05:19:18.780 Was that out of the pocket?

05:19:19.780 That was crazy.

05:19:20.740 Maybe don't get canceled on your own podcast.

05:19:22.880 Wait, what?

05:19:23.400 Take that one back.

05:19:24.180 Wait, why would that be?

05:19:25.060 No, keep it on.

05:19:25.840 Keep it on.

05:19:26.180 Why would I get canceled for that?

05:19:26.980 Keep it on.

05:19:27.620 Keep it on.

05:19:28.420 There's a pattern.

05:19:29.040 There's a pattern of behavior here.

05:19:32.160 I've healed.

05:19:33.720 I've healed.

05:19:34.600 It's been years.

05:19:37.900 No more abusive.

05:19:38.800 Was that a little in the gut punch?

05:19:41.620 And it wasn't even to me.

05:19:42.680 You called me the Antichrist and I laughed.

05:19:43.980 I know.

05:19:45.900 You can keep going if you want.

05:19:49.980 Moving on to you.

05:19:51.060 Oh, okay.

05:19:51.680 Safe.

05:19:51.940 I think for you, you're going to marry like a senator or a congressman.

05:20:01.620 You'll get divorced at 45.

05:20:03.580 You'll have two kids.

05:20:05.560 You'll go on to own a maple syrup company for some reason.

05:20:09.420 A maple syrup.

05:20:09.760 I'm not sure exactly why.

05:20:11.060 That's so funny you say that because I talk about how I'm going to get married twice.

05:20:15.200 It's your plan.

05:20:15.860 It's my little plan.

05:20:17.540 Wait, you're planning to get married twice?

05:20:19.820 Wait, this is on the internet forever.

05:20:22.060 Maybe don't say that.

05:20:23.900 Wait, let them dig their own grave, please.

05:20:25.780 I'm kidding.

05:20:26.480 I don't think that's that bad.

05:20:28.060 You have a wedgie, dear.

05:20:29.120 Very obvious.

05:20:29.380 Dear, you have a wedgie.

05:20:31.320 I'm going to spot him.

05:20:33.820 You want to take it out for me?

05:20:35.260 I'm going to pass on that one.

05:20:36.600 Thank you for the invitation.

05:20:39.100 I'm going to pass.

05:20:40.000 That's what happens when you got a faddle.

05:20:43.920 I like her.

05:20:44.960 Okay.

05:20:46.280 I think I already antichrist, evil.

05:20:49.460 That's so crazy that that's how you see me.

05:20:52.160 I feel like I have a very positive energy to myself.

05:20:54.720 Yeah, I agree.

05:20:55.500 So you're a princess.

05:20:56.280 Yeah, you guys don't agree with what I do, but I don't think I'm a bad person at all.

05:21:00.240 There's this bubbling, dark energy, bubbling under the surface.

05:21:08.380 You got me.

05:21:10.860 Here's another intuition.

05:21:13.200 What's the mom of the Kardashians?

05:21:15.600 What's her name?

05:21:16.480 Kris Jenner.

05:21:17.420 Kris Jenner.

05:21:18.820 I feel like that's going to be you in the future.

05:21:24.100 Well, they say the devil works hard, but Kris Jenner works harder.

05:21:27.360 Can you guys kindly shut the fuck up back there?

05:21:33.720 Thank you.

05:21:36.240 Can I ask where the maple syrup came from?

05:21:38.900 I just get this vibe from you, like a maple syrup.

05:21:43.200 I mean, I kind of like that for you, though.

05:21:44.840 I know.

05:21:45.160 I don't disagree.

05:21:46.280 I do, too.

05:21:47.240 I don't know where it came from.

05:21:48.900 It's going to be this sort of artisan thing.

05:21:52.420 She's going to have the best maple syrup out there.

05:21:54.280 Artisan maple syrup company, and you're going to, like, distribute through Trader Joe's.

05:21:59.240 Like, that's the vibe.

05:22:00.180 That's a good, that's a good vibe.

05:22:01.220 I like that.

05:22:01.760 That's good, right?

05:22:02.880 I like that, too.

05:22:03.420 For you.

05:22:06.920 Should I smile more?

05:22:09.180 Wait, what's that?

05:22:10.060 I said should I smile more?

05:22:11.720 Yeah, the only time you smile at me the entire night.

05:22:13.340 I think for you, you're going to work in HR, human resources.

05:22:28.140 You're going to be the, you're going to do well in HR.

05:22:32.660 This is mean.

05:22:33.600 I don't like it.

05:22:34.140 What do you mean?

05:22:35.320 HR.

05:22:36.020 HR, you're going to work in HR.

05:22:37.200 Call me the anti-Christ.

05:22:38.000 I don't know about me.

05:22:39.020 Is that worse than the anti-Christ?

05:22:40.980 I think the bubbling is me, like, the dark energy.

05:22:45.220 I don't need dark energy for me, though.

05:22:46.780 I think you're going to.

05:22:47.700 I thought that's what he would say.

05:22:49.560 You're going to date.

05:22:52.780 He doesn't even know.

05:22:57.200 A plumber?

05:22:58.460 A plumber.

05:22:59.340 You're going to date a plumber, a blue-collar guy.

05:23:01.500 This is my payback.

05:23:02.260 But you're going to torture him, not, like, in a physically violent way.

05:23:08.200 And then for you, you're going to breed French bulldogs.

05:23:19.540 Oh, hell yeah.

05:23:20.700 I'm down for that.

05:23:21.860 You're going to be like.

05:23:22.760 So down for that.

05:23:23.780 Yeah.

05:23:24.540 You will get married, but he'll die early to stress.

05:23:28.360 Wait, why?

05:23:28.880 Why is he so stressed out, though?

05:23:30.320 Because of me and my dogs?

05:23:33.220 You know why.

05:23:34.480 For you, you are, well, your life path is kind of set, so.

05:23:43.340 That's not true.

05:23:45.320 You've got two kids.

05:23:47.240 I'm just being, like, really, hold on.

05:23:49.300 She can't date a plumber.

05:23:49.740 She can't be in HR.

05:23:51.740 No, maybe she's around.

05:23:52.740 Anti-Christ.

05:23:53.740 You're going to become a yoga teacher.

05:23:56.060 How about that?

05:23:56.760 Okay, I can see that.

05:23:57.800 You're going to save all the money you've made from being an RN, and you're going to

05:24:02.660 become a yoga teacher.

05:24:03.940 You're going to, you're like a Disney person, right?

05:24:09.460 You're going to, there's going to be a viral video of you freaking out at Disneyland, like

05:24:15.500 being, like on some Karen shit.

05:24:17.240 You're going to go viral.

05:24:18.360 You're going to, it's going to ruin your career.

05:24:21.120 You're going to end up homeless.

05:24:22.140 Um, but then, come back story, you're going to end up, um.

05:24:26.900 Meeting my Prince Charming?

05:24:28.320 No, you're going to end up, uh, writing a very successful series of romance novels.

05:24:32.980 Nice.

05:24:33.620 Yeah.

05:24:34.040 Ooh, I like that.

05:24:34.720 Can I, can I do it next?

05:24:36.360 Uh, you over here, you're going to, um, get married.

05:24:41.380 You're going to pump out seven children.

05:24:43.500 Don't put that on me.

05:24:44.200 The girl.

05:24:44.720 Don't put that on me, Brian.

05:24:46.340 But, uh, you're going to, uh, that's about it, um, Natalie, Natalie is going to, uh, run

05:24:56.540 for, you want to, you want to, she's going to do something in the political sphere, which

05:25:01.580 she's already doing.

05:25:02.440 She's going to become, you're going to, you're going to be the, what's the, the Spicer, what

05:25:09.240 was his term?

05:25:10.160 You're going to be the press secretary.

05:25:11.400 Thank you.

05:25:12.080 That's what I want to do.

05:25:12.620 You're going to be the press secretary for the president in 20, wait, fuck, wait, 20,

05:25:20.120 2024, 20, in 2040, you're going to be the press secretary for The Rock and Logan Paul.

05:25:29.720 The Rock.

05:25:30.820 Oh my God.

05:25:31.940 That's the ticket in 2040.

05:25:34.380 Yeah.

05:25:34.640 Thank you.

05:25:36.080 Okay.

05:25:36.760 That, was that pretty accurate?

05:25:38.920 I feel like I got a pretty good read.

05:25:40.160 Sorry, that was kind of cringe.

05:25:41.220 My bad.

05:25:41.500 Just seven children?

05:25:42.620 My husband's going to die earlier, but.

05:25:44.160 I'm in fact the devil, yes.

05:25:45.760 Brian, where do you see yourself in 10 years?

05:25:46.900 I mean, you are using your intuition.

05:25:48.340 Where do you want to be?

05:25:49.120 10 years.

05:25:49.780 I see myself retired.

05:25:53.160 I don't know.

05:25:53.740 Do you want to stay in Santa Barbara?

05:25:55.700 I'm going to be, I don't know what, I don't know what the future holds.

05:25:58.880 Maybe if I get canceled, who knows what the future has in store for me.

05:26:02.140 I'm going to continue on with the podcast in some capacity for, for as long as possible.

05:26:07.880 Uh, I don't know if I'll be doing the dating podcast forever.

05:26:10.440 Maybe I bring in some young blood eventually, because I don't want to be having this, these

05:26:14.500 conversations.

05:26:15.060 And when I'm like 45, that would be.

05:26:17.640 Yeah.

05:26:18.120 I have a question for you.

05:26:19.440 I think I got like three years in me to like have these conversations and then I'm going

05:26:24.380 to want to.

05:26:25.000 Okay.

05:26:25.400 I had now.

05:26:26.000 Check it out.

05:26:26.540 I have a question.

05:26:28.280 So we claim, you're claimed to be a dating podcast, correct?

05:26:32.720 Cause that's what like all the topics or at least that you sent us were about.

05:26:36.140 She wants to get to the dating part.

05:26:37.120 Yeah.

05:26:37.360 You want to talk about the dating stuff.

05:26:38.200 Well, I feel like we barely talked about it and I was like, okay, it's very true.

05:26:41.880 It was a debate.

05:26:42.900 We can.

05:26:43.360 I didn't really think that.

05:26:44.860 I mean, I didn't know what I was going to be.

05:26:45.860 I thought it was going to be silly.

05:26:47.060 It's been a political meaning episode for sure.

05:26:50.440 Yeah.

05:26:50.980 I know.

05:26:51.220 I was excited to talk about dating.

05:26:52.580 I have some stories.

05:26:53.600 Let's talk about dating then.

05:26:54.380 It's too late.

05:26:55.420 We can talk about it.

05:26:56.440 We can talk about it.

05:26:57.040 I forget them.

05:26:57.960 Hold on.

05:26:58.580 Sean.

05:26:58.680 They're going to have questions for us.

05:27:00.220 Most here are conditional traditionalists.

05:27:02.060 Wouldn't submit to their husband if they disagree with him.

05:27:04.880 I mean.

05:27:05.480 I disagree with that.

05:27:07.100 Yeah.

05:27:07.440 Wait, huh?

05:27:08.740 Sorry guys.

05:27:09.340 I wasted five minutes on the future.

05:27:12.340 I'm sorry.

05:27:12.380 This is just too silly for me.

05:27:13.580 I agree with that.

05:27:14.200 Thank you, Sean.

05:27:14.840 Appreciate it.

05:27:15.660 Here.

05:27:16.160 I'll get into some of the pre-show notes here.

05:27:18.040 Let's talk about dating.

05:27:19.040 Are you a Disney adult?

05:27:21.020 Oh, God.

05:27:22.160 I would consider myself one.

05:27:24.020 Yeah.

05:27:24.600 Okay.

05:27:25.260 Let's talk about dating.

05:27:25.880 Are you a Disney adult?

05:27:27.960 You have a great, awful first date story.

05:27:31.060 Yes.

05:27:31.400 You want to tell us that?

05:27:32.340 Sure.

05:27:33.400 I.

05:27:34.740 It was a blind date with somebody in the military that I met online.

05:27:39.840 We exchanged pictures.

05:27:41.880 We talked briefly on the phone.

05:27:43.920 Mind you, this was a long time ago.

05:27:45.540 But we met at BJ's, which if you're, I don't know if they have it in anywhere else than California.

05:27:55.140 But it's basically, it's a microbrewery pizza place.

05:27:58.960 Lots of, lots of options.

05:28:00.740 Yeah.

05:28:01.560 So we meet there.

05:28:03.120 I sit down.

05:28:04.280 And he's, he was in the military.

05:28:07.040 And he's just an immediate nightmare.

05:28:11.160 Super boisterous, complaining, talking.

05:28:17.200 The waitress comes up.

05:28:18.880 She asks what we want to drink.

05:28:21.520 And he says, I want a Budweiser.

05:28:24.220 And the waitress is trying to explain, because BJ is their microbrewery, that they didn't have Budweiser.

05:28:31.700 And he got just really vocal about, this is America.

05:28:36.520 And I'm an American.

05:28:37.820 And I'm in the military.

05:28:38.900 And I want an American beer.

05:28:41.260 And meanwhile, I'm just going like this, because it's so embarrassing.

05:28:44.560 And so I get up and leave.

05:28:48.360 I decide five minutes into the day, I didn't want to be there.

05:28:53.100 And I go to the restroom.

05:28:55.020 I flag down my waitress.

05:28:57.000 And I said, look, this guy is a nightmare.

05:28:59.360 And she said, I don't blame you.

05:29:00.720 But the, I guess the funniest part is, is this guy was so completely off his rocker that I was afraid that he was going to find out that I was leaving.

05:29:10.920 And so I parked probably a quarter of a mile away.

05:29:16.340 And this is in Laguna Beach.

05:29:17.500 And it's really hilly.

05:29:19.140 And so I'm just booking it up and down all of these hills to try to get away from this guy as fast as I can, because I didn't know what he would do.

05:29:29.620 And I unfortunately have left my jacket on the back of the chair.

05:29:33.720 And I called the restaurant probably 15 minutes later, and they said, yes, he is going absolutely berserk.

05:29:41.920 Be glad that you left.

05:29:43.760 So that was my absolute nightmare.

05:29:46.740 Okay.

05:29:47.400 You said you had stories about dating a con artist and a dumpster diver?

05:29:53.940 Oh, God.

05:29:54.380 So my second boyfriend, I was with him for two years, and I rode the wave of delusion for too long.

05:30:10.920 But yes, he considered himself a messiah, a self-proclaimed messiah, basically the second coming, thought he was the most spiritual, evolved person on the planet.

05:30:25.660 And me just being really dumb and naive, I kind of was indoctrinated into his philosophy.

05:30:32.660 But he was also homeless for a lot of the time that I was dating.

05:30:37.520 And so, yes.

05:30:37.820 But you dated a homeless guy?

05:30:38.900 He was homeless for a period of time, and then he was kind of sort of living in somebody's garage for a period of time.

05:30:47.540 And he was...

05:30:48.060 I feel that.

05:30:49.460 When you're young, you kind of just are blind to certain things.

05:30:53.800 But yes, on more than one occasion, he would take me to this one particular dumpster that was behind, I think it's, what is it?

05:31:02.920 Not Papa John's.

05:31:04.020 Little Caesars that have those ready-to-go pizzas.

05:31:06.700 And at the end of the night, they would throw the perfectly good pizzas in a bag into the dumpster.

05:31:13.740 And so he would fish them out of the dumpster and then take them back.

05:31:18.200 And I dated him for two years.

05:31:21.560 Chivalry is alive, ladies.

05:31:25.700 Wow.

05:31:26.540 Romantic.

05:31:27.220 Yeah.

05:31:27.740 Romantic.

05:31:28.100 You said you wanted to speak on having multiple sexual partners before marriage as opposed to being a virgin.

05:31:34.780 What did you mean by that?

05:31:35.720 What did you want to speak on specifically on that?

05:31:38.600 Oh, gosh.

05:31:40.680 Well, there's so many ways that I can go.

05:31:44.840 I, there's two ways that I can go with this.

05:31:52.260 I think that, to your point, I wouldn't, what did you, how did you phrase it?

05:31:59.040 You wouldn't purchase a car without test driving it.

05:32:04.300 Yes.

05:32:04.740 And so, for me, at least, I feel like my sexual compatibility, my sexual chemistry is very quintessential to having a really strong relationship.

05:32:18.400 And you don't know, you could have the most amazing, loving connection with somebody, but you don't, you cannot predict how you will engage with them sexually until you have crossed that line.

05:32:33.600 And I've dated a number of people who I thought, I have this amazing relationship with them, I have this amazing connection with them, and then I sleep with them, and it's just not there.

05:32:46.960 And it's, it's not necessarily awful, but it's just not what I was expecting.

05:32:52.960 Well, so does the, for you to consider a guy for a long-term relationship, does he have to be the best sex you've ever had?

05:32:59.640 Oh, no, not at all.

05:33:00.860 But I don't want to have a virgin.

05:33:05.180 You wouldn't want to date a virgin.

05:33:06.500 No.

05:33:07.040 But isn't that, okay, let's say he's not a virgin, though, but the first, well, okay, actually, question for the whole table here.

05:33:13.580 Because maybe, look, some, I think we can all agree, sometimes you don't always put forth your best performance all the time.

05:33:21.240 And maybe that's the first time, right?

05:33:24.260 If the first time was bad, would that just be, just instantly not going to see them a second time?

05:33:32.060 No.

05:33:32.580 No.

05:33:33.880 No.

05:33:34.320 Give them a second chance?

05:33:35.600 Yeah.

05:33:35.860 A lot of times they can be nervous and it just doesn't work out.

05:33:38.720 Well, there you go.

05:33:39.680 That's reasonable.

05:33:40.820 Okay, that's reasonable.

05:33:41.560 I agree with Coptic.

05:33:43.560 Yeah, I agree, no.

05:33:45.380 Depends.

05:33:46.120 First time, not so great.

05:33:47.480 It could be really bad.

05:33:48.200 It could be really, really bad.

05:33:49.420 I've had that happen before.

05:33:50.140 And would you still get another chance or?

05:33:53.320 No.

05:33:53.760 Into the mic.

05:33:54.280 First time, really?

05:33:55.280 What if they were nervous?

05:33:56.920 Yes.

05:33:58.220 Yes.

05:33:58.540 If they were nervous.

05:33:59.380 But, like, I've had scenarios where I've, it's the first time and they did horribly bad

05:34:04.480 and it was just, no.

05:34:05.720 It doesn't, okay.

05:34:06.720 And then?

05:34:07.720 Yeah, like, give it a fair shot.

05:34:09.780 A couple times?

05:34:10.200 Yeah.

05:34:10.720 So, I'm re-waiting for marriage.

05:34:13.560 I'm not a virgin at the moment, but in the past, I would be very gracious for the first time.

05:34:19.000 In the past?

05:34:19.660 Okay.

05:34:19.980 Gracious.

05:34:20.580 All right.

05:34:21.040 Natalie, what about you?

05:34:22.440 Yes.

05:34:24.240 Okay.

05:34:24.900 All right.

05:34:25.800 Okay.

05:34:26.920 Interesting.

05:34:27.780 Wait, so.

05:34:28.100 Wait, was that a yes to?

05:34:29.380 You wouldn't sleep with them again?

05:34:30.600 I agree with what everyone has said.

05:34:31.600 Yeah.

05:34:31.720 Okay.

05:34:32.640 Wait, so.

05:34:34.180 You were saying, though, that you want to test drive the car.

05:34:37.560 Mm-hmm.

05:34:38.020 And if the sex isn't.

05:34:38.960 But isn't, you know, look.

05:34:40.020 Isn't that something you can work on?

05:34:42.120 Yes and no.

05:34:43.220 So, for example, I married my husband.

05:34:47.400 I was incredibly in love with him.

05:34:49.760 Thought he was the love of my life.

05:34:52.180 Had.

05:34:52.420 Oh, wait, your husband was not good in bed?

05:34:55.520 Let me get to it.

05:34:56.240 Okay.

05:34:56.420 Okay.

05:34:56.480 So, thought he was the love of my life.

05:34:59.800 We had, so, we had dated for, off and on for seven years before we got married.

05:35:06.600 Yeah.

05:35:06.760 And I was a thousand and ten percent confident, convinced that this was my person.

05:35:18.460 I had found him.

05:35:20.040 I loved him intrinsically, inside and out, false and all.

05:35:24.560 I ignored the red flags in the relationship, meaning.

05:35:30.080 Wait, you ignored the red flags to the guy you married?

05:35:34.680 Because I was so in love with him and the idea of marrying him.

05:35:42.200 Because I just, I loved him.

05:35:44.000 And I was willing to overlook things.

05:35:47.400 Specifically the sexual dynamic, the sexual chemistry that we had or didn't have.

05:35:54.020 What, what was lacking?

05:35:57.340 I'm sure everybody at this table can have an experience where you have had partners where

05:36:05.280 you just naturally click with them.

05:36:07.440 You just naturally, there's just a connection.

05:36:09.860 There's an energy between you and it just works.

05:36:13.020 And then you can be with another partner where you may get along with them really well, but

05:36:18.460 the sexual dynamic is not there.

05:36:21.120 And there's no way of making it work.

05:36:23.740 There's no amount of counseling.

05:36:25.140 There's no amount of practicing that you could do to fix it.

05:36:29.680 And that's where I fell short with my husband.

05:36:32.560 I just, I loved him, but I didn't have that intrinsic part that you need with a partner

05:36:42.460 that makes it different from every other relationship that you have.

05:36:46.240 Wait, you guys were married for five years, wasn't it?

05:36:48.260 No, no, no, no, no, no.

05:36:49.000 So we dated from the time I was 23 to 30 off and on.

05:36:53.460 It wasn't one period of time.

05:36:54.480 Oh, it was an off and on again relationship.

05:36:55.460 It was an off and on relationship.

05:36:56.380 And then you did get married though.

05:36:57.860 We got married and we were married for a year and a half.

05:37:00.400 The reason why I was so hell-bent on marrying him is because for the longest time he wasn't

05:37:11.720 ready or didn't want to commit to me.

05:37:13.960 So when he, and that's the reason why we would always break up is because I wanted to be in

05:37:18.480 this committed relationship, but he was not willing to give me that.

05:37:21.940 So I would break up with him and then we would get back together and again and again.

05:37:26.440 How many times was it off and on?

05:37:28.660 A lot.

05:37:29.020 He moved a couple of times, maybe five times.

05:37:34.020 Who would, who would reinitiate?

05:37:36.780 I think me, because I just, I loved him so much.

05:37:39.740 You would break up and you would reinitiate?

05:37:41.140 Yes.

05:37:41.500 I just loved him so much.

05:37:43.040 I just couldn't let him go because I was convinced that he was my person and I was just willing

05:37:47.940 to make the sacrifice of maybe not getting everything that I wanted at the time.

05:37:54.340 But you eventually got married.

05:37:56.320 Mm-hmm.

05:37:56.580 Who, who initiated the divorce?

05:37:58.780 It was mutual.

05:37:59.900 It was mutual.

05:38:00.780 I don't.

05:38:01.040 I think we were both unhappy for different reasons.

05:38:04.320 What was the, I don't know if you said it, what was the reason for the divorce?

05:38:07.100 Was there infidelity or?

05:38:09.460 No, no.

05:38:09.940 It was just what?

05:38:11.060 It was just, I think, I think there's, I can only speak for myself because I can't speak

05:38:18.360 for somebody else.

05:38:19.000 But I think for me, the reason why I personally didn't want to be married to him for the rest

05:38:25.800 of my life was because I could see myself cheating on him and I didn't want to do that.

05:38:32.100 And so I decided to make the decision to break up because I was, yeah.

05:38:40.100 Excuse me?

05:38:40.580 I was just unhappy sexually.

05:38:44.320 I felt like I couldn't ever connect with my partner.

05:38:47.020 He had a lot of emotional walls.

05:38:49.420 Were you guys having sex or was it a dead bedroom?

05:38:52.060 We were.

05:38:53.340 We were also trying very hard to conceive for most of the time that we were engaged and

05:38:59.640 married.

05:39:00.820 So we were having a lot of sex, but it wasn't.

05:39:02.700 Did you have a kid with him or is this from a different man?

05:39:04.740 Okay, you have one kid, different man.

05:39:09.440 Wait, and you got married before or after you had a kid?

05:39:12.720 I got married at 30 and I had my child at 35.

05:39:17.220 With a different person?

05:39:18.600 Yes.

05:39:19.040 Okay.

05:39:21.440 Wait, so did you tell him that the sex wasn't really doing it for you?

05:39:26.980 Oh, yes.

05:39:27.500 Oh, yes.

05:39:28.480 We had some, we talked about, okay, well, do we need to go to therapy?

05:39:33.860 And maybe we need to practice the way we kiss with each other.

05:39:37.100 And we would openly talk about the fact that we wanted to fix this as a couple, as a unit,

05:39:44.360 as a partnership.

05:39:45.500 What was his explanation there?

05:39:51.020 I don't, I.

05:39:52.600 Would you climax?

05:39:55.980 I would make myself.

05:39:59.040 You, okay.

05:40:01.220 So he wasn't able to make you climax?

05:40:03.820 Not him alone, no.

05:40:05.500 Would, are other, have other partners been able to do that?

05:40:09.840 I usually always have to help myself along.

05:40:12.540 Okay.

05:40:15.860 But it was, for, for my husband and I, it was just very.

05:40:18.460 Has a guy, a guy's never been able to make you climax?

05:40:21.760 Yes, but it's more rare.

05:40:23.160 It's very rare.

05:40:24.020 Yeah.

05:40:24.640 And I, I don't mean to get, is this, are we talking clitoral orgasm or?

05:40:28.360 Or, I've only had that, I would say, maybe is, I could probably count on one hand.

05:40:36.540 And is that like something that, because for some girls it can be a mental thing.

05:40:40.620 Like, it's, maybe there, there's not a level of comfort there.

05:40:45.660 I was very comfortable with him.

05:40:47.340 What it, what the problem was, is it was just very mechanical.

05:40:51.080 For you?

05:40:52.140 No, it just.

05:40:53.260 Did you watch porn?

05:40:54.100 No.

05:40:54.800 Did you use toys?

05:40:56.020 No.

05:40:57.320 So with your own hands, you'd be able to get yourself to climax?

05:40:59.980 I just didn't feel that, he, he had a lot of emotional blocks that he wasn't comfortable

05:41:05.900 talking about.

05:41:06.780 And so I think.

05:41:07.760 Well.

05:41:08.160 It inhibited me from feeling that super deep intimacy with him.

05:41:12.400 And I need that and a partner.

05:41:14.600 In order to climax?

05:41:15.780 Well, in order to.

05:41:16.400 Was the sex bad because you could, the guys could, the guy couldn't make you climax?

05:41:20.720 Or were there other reasons why the sex was bad?

05:41:23.700 It was bad because it, it wasn't intimate and there wasn't love and there wasn't romance.

05:41:28.460 You mean he just like wanted to hit it from the back, basically?

05:41:31.840 Like all the time?

05:41:32.860 Did you feel empowered when you were with him?

05:41:35.400 That's the question.

05:41:36.280 Not at all.

05:41:36.660 Okay, there you go.

05:41:37.700 Cut off.

05:41:37.780 The sex wasn't intimate?

05:41:39.220 What do you mean?

05:41:40.100 It just, there wasn't.

05:41:41.480 Was he really into rough sex?

05:41:42.740 Was that?

05:41:43.620 Kind of.

05:41:44.740 I mean.

05:41:45.280 And you wanted more gentle sex?

05:41:47.020 Yeah.

05:41:47.860 Okay.

05:41:48.280 I see.

05:41:48.820 I get that.

05:41:49.500 And I think he was willing to give that to me and compromise.

05:41:52.240 But what was missing at the end of the day was that, that pure intimacy that you can only

05:42:02.040 get when you're really vulnerable with another human being and he wasn't able to give me his

05:42:06.960 full vulnerability.

05:42:08.200 So I always felt like he was holding back.

05:42:10.340 Um, I mean, I'm not, that sounds a little bit like, I'm not sure why that's a component

05:42:19.560 of the sex being bad, but.

05:42:22.100 It, for me, it is.

05:42:23.240 I have to have really emotionally connected sex for, I mean, don't get me wrong.

05:42:29.620 I like to be, you know, realed every once in a while, but, but most of the time I like

05:42:37.800 to have a close, loving, bonded connection with my partner.

05:42:42.500 And I just never felt that with him.

05:42:45.460 But you, you said you loved him, right?

05:42:48.120 I did.

05:42:50.880 So the sex was bad from a technical perspective or there was a missing connection?

05:42:57.120 Yeah, it was, yeah, that's what it was.

05:42:59.880 I think she said both, emotional connection.

05:43:03.340 He was always holding back and I felt that.

05:43:06.820 I felt like he wasn't.

05:43:07.740 Holding back sexually?

05:43:09.140 No, emotionally.

05:43:10.360 I felt like he was always.

05:43:11.280 That's what men do.

05:43:12.580 That's the name of the game.

05:43:13.920 We don't.

05:43:14.300 Yep, but not with your wife.

05:43:16.720 How was he holding back?

05:43:18.800 He wasn't allowing himself to be fully present with me.

05:43:23.460 He was, I think he was scared.

05:43:25.280 What do you mean fully present?

05:43:27.420 I mean, it's obviously, I imagine this is something that's hard to precisely articulate,

05:43:32.380 but without actually seeing the dynamic or knowing the dynamic, but you wanted him to be vulnerable?

05:43:42.340 It wasn't just sexually.

05:43:43.660 He just, he held a lot of secrets from me in general and I felt it the most in the bedroom.

05:43:50.360 Yeah, you have to pay attention to how you feel when you get.

05:43:53.780 I don't know, man.

05:43:54.620 From a guy.

05:43:56.440 I don't know, man.

05:43:57.620 That sounds like a lot of work.

05:44:01.120 It sounds like kind of a lot of work.

05:44:06.260 I disagree.

05:44:07.340 I mean, you don't even want to get married to someone, but like there's a level of intimacy and I can speak on that.

05:44:14.400 Sex was bad.

05:44:15.500 Yeah, but I can speak on that as a sex worker.

05:44:17.600 But you said that you want to test drive.

05:44:19.600 So like for you, it wasn't this thing of, like when you're dating somebody new, how long do you typically wait before having sex with them?

05:44:28.020 A couple, a couple, like at least a week or two, sometimes longer.

05:44:32.020 But it's usually, it's, it's usually a few dates in.

05:44:36.040 Okay.

05:44:36.620 It's usually never the first date.

05:44:38.100 So the sex is always going to be bad?

05:44:40.760 No.

05:44:41.840 Well, I'm just confused because like.

05:44:43.160 It was just bad with him because I just couldn't, I just didn't ever feel close to him.

05:44:47.820 I thought it was just, it felt just very mechanical.

05:44:50.260 Like the sex that you get when you meet somebody for the first time and you're just banging.

05:44:55.340 That's what it felt like for me.

05:44:56.660 It didn't feel like the love and the intimacy that you're supposed to feel with your lifelong partner.

05:45:03.340 Okay.

05:45:06.020 I know what you're saying.

05:45:07.220 I completely actually like understand what you're saying.

05:45:09.340 Yeah, no, I do too.

05:45:10.280 That's why I was trying to like give a little, yeah.

05:45:13.480 You can have amazing, great sex on paper.

05:45:17.120 Like for example, one of my last boyfriends was a perfect 10 on paper.

05:45:24.980 He hit all of the boxes.

05:45:26.580 We had theoretically great sex, but we didn't have that connection.

05:45:32.560 And so we only, our relationship only lasted for a couple months because he felt it and I felt it.

05:45:37.800 And it was just like a mutual, you know, this was great while it lasted.

05:45:41.280 Thank you very much.

05:45:42.200 But I'm going to be on my way.

05:45:43.840 I don't know, man.

05:45:45.180 That sounds like a lot of work.

05:45:47.620 So what it sounds like to me, Brian, is you have had a lot of mechanical sex, but you haven't had a lot of really intimate, wonderful, beautiful sex because you don't even know what I'm talking about.

05:45:57.300 No, it just seems like you want this sort of vague, nebulous, ethereal thing, which.

05:46:03.180 The people who know, know.

05:46:05.200 The people who know, know what I'm talking about.

05:46:07.620 That's all I have to say.

05:46:08.520 Well, I mean, I'll actually throw this out there.

05:46:09.980 I actually don't like the rough sex that you speak of.

05:46:13.580 I actually prefer more intimate, gentle sex.

05:46:16.220 There you go.

05:46:16.400 I'm not clear if that's what you're really, why are you looking at me that way?

05:46:20.040 Look, I get that you want to just like have super crazy rough sex.

05:46:23.540 Relax.

05:46:23.940 Not everybody's into that, okay?

05:46:25.600 Chill out, bro.

05:46:26.700 I'm just trying to see what you're going to say.

05:46:28.360 No.

05:46:29.260 I actually prefer, I don't want to like do the fucking jackhammer.

05:46:34.020 Yeah.

05:46:34.620 That's not interesting to me.

05:46:36.000 Is there a real connection, like have you felt that super deep connection with someone?

05:46:40.200 Like have you looked into a woman's eyes and just like held her hand and have it be this

05:46:44.700 beautiful moment between you two, like two souls bonding together.

05:46:49.260 If you've never.

05:46:49.760 It doesn't have to be that.

05:46:50.620 You want some Disney shit.

05:46:51.740 It doesn't have to be that.

05:46:52.540 Yes.

05:46:53.180 But you know a difference between like when you have a connection and you don't have a connection.

05:46:57.360 I'm not going to say the word, I'm not going to say the word, but that sounds kind of.

05:47:02.180 No, that's just, I think what real true intimacy is.

05:47:06.260 I think your expectations be kind of crazy when it comes to sex.

05:47:08.960 My question though, have you had experiences where you feel more connected than another?

05:47:12.720 If you're having the same type of sex, have you felt more connected to one person over

05:47:16.480 the other emotionally during the sex?

05:47:19.100 Sure.

05:47:19.500 Okay.

05:47:19.980 So that's exactly what she's saying.

05:47:22.100 But to her extent is not exactly your extent, but it does make sense, right?

05:47:26.800 Of that different level of connection.

05:47:28.320 And it's not a lot of work when you have a natural intrinsic connection.

05:47:31.580 It just, it works.

05:47:32.880 But that's why it makes sense to test it out before you get married in certain people's

05:47:38.000 scenario.

05:47:38.220 If you're not for religious reasons, that's totally cool and that's your own thing.

05:47:42.200 But like for some people, that's not what they believe in.

05:47:45.020 So I'm, I'm a little lost, to be honest.

05:47:52.360 I'm not even sure where to tackle that from.

05:47:55.680 Maybe, maybe your expectations are a little too high.

05:48:01.520 That's possible.

05:48:02.620 I had a really, I had a pretty, I had, I was blessed enough to be intimate with somebody

05:48:11.440 who blew my mind in every way possible.

05:48:14.720 And it wasn't the sex.

05:48:16.700 It was the intimacy.

05:48:17.960 It was the love.

05:48:19.340 It was the connection.

05:48:20.660 And so I have a pretty high benchmark from which to base my future connections.

05:48:27.100 And I, I would, I would tell him all the time.

05:48:31.060 And if you're watching, he knows, I would tell him all the time.

05:48:33.780 You ruined me.

05:48:34.660 You literally ruined me because, because now I have this super high expectation.

05:48:40.420 So I'm very, I'm very aware of it.

05:48:43.360 There's this, I don't like the term alpha, but it's actually a good descriptive thing here.

05:48:49.100 So you've been with a guy.

05:48:50.620 Was he, I mean, the sex itself was great, but was he also like really attractive and like

05:48:55.740 hit a bunch of check marks too?

05:48:57.580 I don't think, yes and no, I don't think, well, I personally.

05:49:06.360 This shit is dangerous.

05:49:07.440 Once a girl gets fucked a certain way, bro, you guys are fucked.

05:49:13.500 I'm sorry, dude.

05:49:14.980 Yeah, I'm sorry.

05:49:15.540 Yeah, I agree with that.

05:49:16.800 I'm sorry.

05:49:17.840 But I would say.

05:49:19.480 It's over.

05:49:20.120 I would say, I would say he's, he was a traditionally attractive guy.

05:49:24.840 I don't know if he was a 10 out of 10.

05:49:26.520 This kind of segues into our next conversation that you wanted to talk about is body count.

05:49:30.940 Here's the thing.

05:49:31.860 Once you've fucked enough guys, you've landed on a certain dude that just like, it could,

05:49:37.300 it might not even be sex, but it could be like, you're, he's just so fucking attractive

05:49:42.300 or his status or just like something, his charisma or the way you feel about him that

05:49:49.040 is not going to be easily replicated in other men.

05:49:52.580 And you're going to use that guy as the benchmark for all the other guys going into the future.

05:49:57.780 Absolutely.

05:49:58.320 I have a really great analogy for that.

05:49:59.900 But this actually almost, let me, let me just add one thing.

05:50:01.780 Men do that too, though.

05:50:02.780 Not really.

05:50:03.740 Yeah.

05:50:04.140 Not really.

05:50:05.040 It's a bit different.

05:50:06.100 Um, this actually stems back to the rating thing.

05:50:10.420 So here's where women get into big trouble because you have sexual access to men that

05:50:17.220 you can't get commitment from.

05:50:18.900 If you fuck those really attractive dudes that will never give you commitment and then like

05:50:25.220 the guys who will actually commit to you are like one, two, three points down, either their

05:50:31.840 sex game, status, money, whatever it is, you're going to be like, you're going to be comparing

05:50:37.980 the guy who you can actually get commitment from to the guy who you can't get commitment

05:50:43.040 from.

05:50:43.380 Um, and that makes for a terrible, terrible fucking relationship because you think you've

05:50:49.100 settled when really you're just shooting out of your league.

05:50:52.780 Huh?

05:50:52.980 Talking about physical is not the same as what she's talking about though.

05:50:56.540 Exactly.

05:50:57.180 She was talking about connection that whole time.

05:50:59.020 Mm-hmm.

05:51:00.900 Do you not know what connection is?

05:51:02.860 Okay.

05:51:03.300 So let me, let me, let me give you my analogy.

05:51:05.260 That's not the same thing.

05:51:06.560 Excuse me.

05:51:07.520 At the end of the day, in terms of sex, what we were talking about is looking for that specific

05:51:11.780 connection.

05:51:13.380 So like, what does that even mean?

05:51:16.840 I'm confused.

05:51:17.360 The connection.

05:51:18.300 If you, if you've never experienced it, it's hard to quantify it.

05:51:21.060 The vibe.

05:51:21.740 You guys are talking about the click, the chemistry, the vibe.

05:51:24.200 Yeah.

05:51:24.500 There's, is there such thing as sexual chemistry?

05:51:27.240 Have you never experienced like that connection with somebody?

05:51:29.660 Well, there's sexual chemistry and then there's romantic chemistry.

05:51:31.900 I'm sure you would agree.

05:51:32.840 Yeah.

05:51:33.060 Like you can feel the click or vibe for somebody before you've had sex with them.

05:51:36.860 Right?

05:51:37.520 Yeah.

05:51:38.240 Okay.

05:51:38.700 But sexual chemistry is what she's talking about.

05:51:43.380 Okay.

05:51:44.720 There is zero.

05:51:45.360 But you're holding, it sounds like you're holding these men to this, like this one guy

05:51:49.040 just fucked you really proper.

05:51:49.620 And I'm not denying that.

05:51:51.240 He, he literally ruined me.

05:51:52.940 No, but she actually admitted it.

05:51:54.360 She said from her own mouth, she said, he ruined me for other men.

05:51:58.440 But like, and that's precisely why segwaying here, why I think body count matters.

05:52:03.280 Cause eventually you keep, it's like a Russian roulette.

05:52:07.040 Well, not Russian roulette.

05:52:08.040 You keep rolling the dice and eventually you're going to land on a dude who fucks you just right

05:52:13.100 or who's just attractive enough.

05:52:14.720 And then all the, all the guys let's, let's assume that that relationship doesn't work

05:52:20.500 out.

05:52:20.920 That's the benchmark for all the other guys moving forward.

05:52:24.620 And it sets those men up for disappointment.

05:52:27.740 You're going to disappoint your girl.

05:52:31.320 But there's always, there's always the potential to form a new bond or a new connection with

05:52:36.200 that partner.

05:52:36.820 So it's not, it's not completely.

05:52:38.820 That's so, okay.

05:52:40.800 You said that like, while you're, while you're fucking these like new men, do you think about

05:52:48.040 the guy who put it down just right?

05:52:50.680 That's such a, oh my God, that's crazy.

05:52:53.000 That's so crazy.

05:52:55.480 She's having sex with other men and she's having sex with other men and she's thinking

05:52:59.820 about the guy who did it just right.

05:53:01.980 So I can answer that.

05:53:02.860 Oh my God.

05:53:03.320 That's so.

05:53:04.220 I can answer that question.

05:53:05.360 So the reason why I, the reason why I knew I needed to get a divorce was because I have

05:53:12.240 a crystal clear memory of me having sex with my husband and thinking about this other guy

05:53:17.940 and me knowing in that moment, I have to divorce him because if I don't get out of this marriage,

05:53:24.160 I'm going to cheat on him.

05:53:25.560 I'm going to try to find this.

05:53:28.140 And I know that's really fucked up, but I didn't want to be a cheater.

05:53:31.700 It's not.

05:53:32.340 That's happened to me too.

05:53:33.560 So while you were, hold on, let me recap here.

05:53:38.160 While you were having sex with your husband, you were thinking about another man who you

05:53:45.200 were having, who you had better sex with.

05:53:48.200 And because the sex with your husband wasn't as good as the sex with this other man, you

05:53:54.580 wanted to get a divorce.

05:53:55.980 It wasn't the sex.

05:53:57.100 It was the connection.

05:53:58.660 But yes.

05:53:58.840 It was the realization.

05:53:59.640 The guy who was really good in bed, how long did you date him for?

05:54:03.660 Six months.

05:54:05.040 And how soon did you have that connection after meeting him?

05:54:09.160 Immediately.

05:54:11.380 It was immediate.

05:54:13.380 Wait, hold on.

05:54:14.380 I thought a connection is something that takes a while to develop.

05:54:17.320 No, it's that intrinsic connection that you either have or you don't with a person.

05:54:21.780 It's either there or it's not.

05:54:23.140 So you can build, you can build on that connection to have four deeper connections, but this is

05:54:29.540 a red pill if I've ever fucking heard one.

05:54:31.260 No, but there's different types of connections.

05:54:33.060 There can be a sexual connection.

05:54:34.860 Well, this was a base primal connection.

05:54:37.960 You had the click.

05:54:39.400 Mm-hmm.

05:54:41.300 Mm-hmm.

05:54:42.920 You've never had that before?

05:54:44.320 Why did it not work out with this guy?

05:54:47.800 Because he was a lot younger than me and I didn't want younger, meaning he was in a completely

05:54:56.340 different stage in his life from me.

05:54:59.440 And I didn't want to hold him down by being in a relationship with me.

05:55:04.260 I kind of made the sacrifice to let him be young and do and experience his youth and not

05:55:12.840 be tied down by me.

05:55:15.020 Was he a, what arch type, archetype is, was he, are we, was he a bad boy?

05:55:20.500 Archetype.

05:55:21.220 Archetype.

05:55:21.740 He was cocky, but sweet.

05:55:26.580 Cocky, but sweet.

05:55:27.640 Mm-hmm.

05:55:29.400 Tattoos?

05:55:30.200 No.

05:55:30.700 No tattoos?

05:55:31.520 Mm-mm.

05:55:32.720 Okay.

05:55:34.260 Pretty much the antithesis of what my type is, I should say.

05:55:38.560 He was the opposite of what your type is?

05:55:41.140 Mm-hmm.

05:55:41.260 What's your type?

05:55:42.660 Tall, dad bod, not cocky, down to earth.

05:55:48.380 So he was short?

05:55:49.360 He was not short.

05:55:50.440 I think he was right about my height.

05:55:52.100 Was he ripped?

05:55:52.560 Skinny.

05:55:53.260 No.

05:55:53.680 Skinny.

05:55:54.500 Mm-hmm.

05:55:55.440 Bad skin.

05:55:56.700 Bad skin.

05:55:57.580 Yeah.

05:55:57.880 Okay.

05:55:58.420 Mm-hmm.

05:55:58.660 But I saw beyond the physical.

05:56:01.600 I just fell in love with who he was.

05:56:03.800 Uh, were there any, were there any, like, uh, did he have any personality disorders?

05:56:14.140 No, he was the most normal, he was, he was so mature, like, I met him when I was 20 and

05:56:23.000 he was 22, and at 22 he was already a pilot, he was already working in aviation, he was

05:56:29.440 already on his way towards his aviation career, and he was just very goal-driven.

05:56:36.980 Hilly donated $100.

05:56:39.740 It's beyond fucked up.

05:56:41.720 Brian's right.

05:56:42.740 Good men get fucked over cause of your fairy tale delusion.

05:56:46.760 Disgusting.

05:56:47.580 Mm-hmm.

05:56:47.740 After you segue into body count, can we ask why they deserve this man that they dream of?

05:56:53.540 I didn't say it, I, I completely am, I'm, I'm, I'm, don't live in Dulululand, I am very

05:56:59.080 aware that it's fucked up, thus why I wanted to get a divorce, cause I didn't want to be

05:57:03.580 that awful person that cheated on her husband.

05:57:06.460 At least she's aware of her, like, actions, a lot of people can't be aware of that, and

05:57:11.720 they don't validate it.

05:57:14.240 Nickelodeon donated $100, and they say pair bonding isn't real.

05:57:19.060 Girl, girl, you're ruined.

05:57:21.060 I am.

05:57:21.500 Take the guy that's willing to love you and be happy you got it.

05:57:24.780 Soul ties are real.

05:57:25.700 Though, after this show, that will probably be harder.

05:57:28.500 Go back to our hubby.

05:57:30.200 Well, he's married to somebody else.

05:57:32.080 Soul ties are real, soul ties are real.

05:57:35.160 This is crazy, I mean, this is a huge difference.

05:57:37.820 Nickelodeon, I appreciate your, um, your message.

05:57:41.140 We have another one here that's about to come in.

05:57:43.340 Jesus Christ.

05:57:44.040 Loose pussy energy donated $100.

05:57:46.440 Holy shite, these hoes are fucking haram.

05:57:50.800 Thinking of other dudes while your husband is fucking you?

05:57:54.400 Brian, Abdul is sharpening his rocks.

05:57:57.180 He would like to see this $304 ASAP.

05:58:00.980 Hashtag get the fucking rocks.

05:58:02.700 Well, when I said, when I said, when I agreed with her, I was thinking about a girl, not

05:58:07.280 another guy, just saying.

05:58:08.560 And I'm not a 304, sorry.

05:58:11.000 I'm almost at a loss for words here.

05:58:16.600 That's crazy.

05:58:17.980 That's wild.

05:58:19.040 Yeah.

05:58:19.580 Um.

05:58:21.780 I'm, if anything, I'm 100% honest.

05:58:24.840 I'm not delusional.

05:58:25.940 I know.

05:58:26.560 I credit you for your honesty.

05:58:28.260 Exactly.

05:58:28.440 And actually being able to admit that.

05:58:30.700 Because that's.

05:58:31.120 Spreading awareness by doing that.

05:58:32.540 You thought that was funny?

05:58:39.600 No comment.

05:58:40.120 It's definitely not mainstream.

05:58:41.600 I mean, this, look, really quick on the whole click, chemistry vibe, lightning, butterflies,

05:58:46.140 whatever, whatever bullshit term you want to attribute to it.

05:58:49.640 I don't really believe in that.

05:58:51.500 Because you've never had it.

05:58:53.540 No, look, I've had, I've had women that I get along better with than others.

05:58:57.400 You've never had it.

05:58:58.100 If you, if you can't.

05:58:59.520 No, because men and women are different.

05:59:00.960 No, once you get that feeling, you'll know that feeling.

05:59:03.660 That's just a cop out.

05:59:04.900 It's not a cop out.

05:59:06.220 It's just this like, it's sort of, it's this nebulous thing.

05:59:10.640 Bro, nothing happened.

05:59:11.240 I actually agree with them on this one.

05:59:12.820 That's fine if you agree, but it's like, here's what I think it is.

05:59:16.460 Who hurt you?

05:59:18.260 When you don't feel that, here's what it is.

05:59:21.000 He doesn't trigger your anxious trauma response.

05:59:23.940 That I 100% agree with you.

05:59:24.440 Which you confuse for love.

05:59:26.440 That's what that is.

05:59:27.720 That's what the click and the chemistry and the connection is.

05:59:30.520 Or, the other thing it could be, is you'll feel that for a guy who's like, really out

05:59:37.200 of your league.

05:59:38.080 That's the other way to trigger it.

05:59:40.200 No, I 100% am very aware of the whole butterfly thing.

05:59:44.440 You're not supposed to want to feel butterflies with the person you have a potential partnership

05:59:49.540 with, because your anxiety is heightened and your cortisol levels are heightened, that

05:59:54.300 you should feel calm and at ease with your partner.

05:59:56.920 I guess you're self-aware.

05:59:59.460 It's still not the same thing as sexual chemistry.

06:00:02.140 No, but we're talking, okay, there's like differences here.

06:00:04.100 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

06:00:04.940 Like, that's all I was talking about the whole time.

06:00:07.920 That's crazy, son.

06:00:09.720 That's crazy.

06:00:10.860 I was explaining the difference, too, between them.

06:00:12.720 Well, I mean, if we're going off of the click or the chemistry or the vibe, how many,

06:00:19.020 who here has felt, going around the table, starting with you, who here has felt that for

06:00:24.500 somebody?

06:00:27.620 Have you felt, you felt it?

06:00:29.520 You felt it, you felt it, you felt it, you felt it, you felt it, you felt it, you felt

06:00:33.180 it.

06:00:34.400 Well, did, I mean, I'm curious, did that person end up always being a good person that you felt

06:00:43.180 that for?

06:00:44.200 Yes.

06:00:44.920 They always were a good person?

06:00:46.440 Yes.

06:00:46.820 They were always the one you should have been with?

06:00:49.940 No.

06:00:50.700 No.

06:00:51.140 Did any of those guys, let me ask you another follow-up question, starting with you.

06:00:54.660 Did any of those guys that you did feel the chemistry or the click or the whatever sparks,

06:00:58.960 whatever the term is, with, did that guy turn out to be a piece of shit?

06:01:05.500 Yes, but there's a difference between the feeling that you feel.

06:01:09.620 That's all I'm going to say.

06:01:10.760 Continue.

06:01:12.200 Yes.

06:01:13.040 I'm still just talking about sexual chemistry.

06:01:14.980 Just romantic chemistry.

06:01:16.820 Romantic chemistry?

06:01:17.980 Yeah, because you.

06:01:18.560 Did I end up being a piece of shit?

06:01:20.120 Yes.

06:01:20.980 Not in every scenario.

06:01:22.140 I'm not saying in every scenario, but have you felt it for a guy and turns out he really

06:01:26.480 wasn't the, you probably shouldn't have picked him.

06:01:29.300 Yeah.

06:01:29.780 Okay.

06:01:30.100 Have you had that?

06:01:30.980 Yeah.

06:01:31.440 Okay.

06:01:32.080 Yes.

06:01:32.860 Yes.

06:01:33.220 Yes, with other people, yes.

06:01:36.560 Yeah.

06:01:37.400 Yeah.

06:01:38.540 Well, it's not clear to me then if picking men based off of this nebulous click is really

06:01:45.760 the optimum way of finding a partner.

06:01:48.240 It's not.

06:01:48.740 I don't think anyone ever said that, right?

06:01:50.260 It happens sometimes.

06:01:50.880 Yeah, but we're not beholden to our base animal instincts of wanting that person that, you

06:01:59.060 know, maybe boring's good.

06:02:01.620 Maybe unexciting is good.

06:02:03.400 Um, because y'all are so, y'all got the, it's like you got your dopamine hits so fucked

06:02:09.680 up.

06:02:10.080 You need a guy who's like chaotic or introduces chaos into your life because you're addicted

06:02:15.480 to the drama and the excitement.

06:02:17.640 You're chasing the feeling.

06:02:18.660 Yeah.

06:02:19.060 You're addicted.

06:02:20.360 You guys are addicts.

06:02:22.560 You like the toxicity.

06:02:24.660 I like the toxic guys.

06:02:26.420 I mean, to be completely fair, my five year, that was like, he was super boring in every

06:02:30.800 way and he had a feeding fetish so, well that, no one's safe.

06:02:35.020 Okay.

06:02:35.520 No one's safe.

06:02:37.800 I just think in terms, going back again to the sexual chemistry part, it's important for

06:02:43.660 someone like me and I said it's not for everybody because if you're holding off until marriage

06:02:48.300 or whatever, then that's totally like your own thing.

06:02:51.300 But for me, I do want to make sure that I am sexually compatible with my partner before

06:02:56.740 getting married.

06:02:58.080 I think that's fine.

06:03:00.040 I think it's fine if you want to have good sex with a partner.

06:03:03.280 I do think there's a difference though here between men and women.

06:03:06.080 Men don't typically prioritize sexual experience in women.

06:03:10.400 I agree.

06:03:10.740 Because women really value like that intimacy.

06:03:15.060 What do you mean?

06:03:16.080 Exactly what you just said.

06:03:17.320 No, I think Brian's saying, Brian, most men would prefer women that don't have a lot

06:03:22.700 of sexual, is that what you mean?

06:03:23.980 Sexual experience.

06:03:24.500 Yeah.

06:03:24.860 Men prefer.

06:03:25.720 Yeah.

06:03:26.540 Yeah, that's fine.

06:03:27.940 Right.

06:03:28.180 Well, there's a differential here though.

06:03:30.780 It seems women either don't care or prefer men to have some degree or perhaps a great

06:03:36.460 degree of sexual experience.

06:03:37.820 I never, yeah, I never personally said that.

06:03:39.720 I just feel like the connection has to be there.

06:03:41.320 I think that's kind of weird of men though.

06:03:42.920 Is it weird?

06:03:43.860 Because like, why do you want someone who's like freshly experienced?

06:03:47.740 And it's like, well, it's kind of like, it's giving you want a child or something.

06:03:52.580 If you look at biology, like men want to.

06:03:55.900 Okay.

06:03:56.000 Always with the, you, you do realize like, for example, to make the extreme argument, like

06:04:01.140 a woman could be 25 and still a virgin.

06:04:03.420 Yeah.

06:04:04.220 What do you think?

06:04:05.600 Let's just take your thing to the logical conclusion.

06:04:07.940 What do you think is more P word?

06:04:10.220 A man who wants to date a woman who's 25, who's a virgin or a man who wants to date an

06:04:14.600 18 year old who's had sex with a hundred men?

06:04:18.560 What do you think is more?

06:04:20.180 And I don't actually, I mean, well.

06:04:21.880 A virgin.

06:04:23.160 You think, you think it's more P word to want to date a 25 year old?

06:04:27.900 Let's say he's, let's say he's 28.

06:04:31.020 And how old is the girl?

06:04:32.280 I already gave you the numbers.

06:04:33.580 She's 25 and she's a virgin versus an 18 year old who's had sex with a hundred men.

06:04:42.020 That's a hard one now because I thought the 18 year old was a virgin.

06:04:46.400 No.

06:04:47.800 Fuck.

06:04:49.020 Okay.

06:04:49.460 Yeah.

06:04:49.620 I'm still going to go with the virgin answer.

06:04:52.380 That makes absolutely no logical sense, but okay.

06:04:56.160 We have Sean here.

06:04:57.360 Brian put in a good word for me with, oh, she, who's Bree?

06:05:00.960 I'm here.

06:05:01.960 I'll bring this back up when you come to the table.

06:05:05.480 Bro, that's, so you're talking like age gap shit now?

06:05:08.260 Or you think, do you, you think men who prefer women who have a low body count or who are virgins

06:05:15.540 are predators?

06:05:18.340 You think it's predatory P words?

06:05:20.100 Um, not all of them, but it can give some traits.

06:05:25.040 Into the mic?

06:05:25.880 It can give some, not all of them, but it could give some traits for sure.

06:05:30.220 Especially as, um, like I'm 22 and I was really, like, I've always looked really young.

06:05:35.740 Right now, I don't know how old I look, but I've always looked really young, like, since a jit.

06:05:41.360 So I've realized how men act and, yeah, I don't know.

06:05:45.980 It's just weird.

06:05:47.480 That's all I gotta say.

06:05:49.300 So you think it's weird for men to prefer women of any age with, of any adult age with a low body count?

06:05:57.900 Virgin.

06:05:58.660 Low body count's different.

06:06:00.780 Okay.

06:06:01.720 So men who want to date women who are virgins are P words.

06:06:06.020 Not P words.

06:06:07.400 They're what then?

06:06:08.260 It's just, it gives you the ick?

06:06:10.020 Is that it?

06:06:10.600 It just gives you the ick?

06:06:11.400 It's potentially P word.

06:06:13.620 Potentially.

06:06:14.200 Well, now you're going back, okay.

06:06:16.080 It's potentially P word.

06:06:17.220 Why?

06:06:17.620 Should I say 50-50 of them are P word?

06:06:19.940 Or should I just, okay.

06:06:20.920 So 50?

06:06:21.140 What if they're, what if they're the same age?

06:06:22.440 No, no, no, no, no.

06:06:23.000 Hold on.

06:06:23.480 Say what you're going to say.

06:06:24.360 Go ahead.

06:06:24.760 All of them are P words.

06:06:25.940 All, all men who want virgin women are P words.

06:06:30.980 But what if they're the same age?

06:06:32.000 Even, even if the woman is 30 and she's a virgin, he's, he.

06:06:35.480 Is he religious?

06:06:38.040 I don't see how that's relevant.

06:06:39.900 Let's say he's not.

06:06:41.900 If he's not, um, hmm.

06:06:48.220 I'm just going to say with both the answers.

06:06:50.360 Yeah.

06:06:51.780 Yeah.

06:06:53.720 I think it just goes back.

06:06:55.180 I actually agree with you on this point.

06:06:56.700 It goes back to like, not wanting to have your girl compare you to anybody else.

06:07:01.820 I don't know.

06:07:02.140 My guy friends I've talked to, they're all like, I want to be her only experience doing

06:07:07.240 X, Y, Z.

06:07:07.900 And not just like sexual, just in general, like experiences.

06:07:10.720 Like, I want to be the only man that took you to this restaurant.

06:07:13.720 If, if you've been here before, don't fucking talk to me about it.

06:07:18.200 That type of thing.

06:07:19.000 Because like, I don't want to know.

06:07:20.440 I want to be, in my mind, like, I want to be that only experience for you.

06:07:23.920 Yeah.

06:07:24.280 I get that view.

06:07:24.800 So I think it's fair from that perspective.

06:07:26.200 Do you agree with that mindset or no?

06:07:28.380 I agree.

06:07:28.960 For men to, yeah.

06:07:30.400 To want to be like your only experience in their head, at least.

06:07:33.800 Sure.

06:07:34.180 Of like, I'm doing this.

06:07:34.780 I'm the only one that's ever done this.

06:07:36.280 Yeah.

06:07:36.500 Yeah.

06:07:36.620 I think it's totally fair and it's totally natural.

06:07:39.120 Yeah.

06:07:39.500 And I think on the flip side, women actually prefer men.

06:07:44.260 And I'm not speaking in generalities, but women prefer men who have had more than one sexual partner

06:07:52.760 because I don't, maybe it makes them more manly.

06:07:55.560 Like, they're experienced.

06:07:57.240 They know what to do.

06:07:58.260 They know what not to do.

06:08:00.300 They could take the lead.

06:08:02.280 Like, I wouldn't want to be with somebody, again, that's a virgin or hasn't had sex all that much

06:08:07.160 because then I feel like I'm taking the masculine role.

06:08:10.040 And I don't think women like that.

06:08:11.780 So, I think there's a dichotomy there.

06:08:13.720 Wait, we'll get to body count in just a sec.

06:08:16.180 Going back to you, what is your argument for men who are attracted to women who are virgins?

06:08:23.800 What's your argument there for it being P word?

06:08:33.200 Well, what's the reason why?

06:08:34.940 What's the reason why they want to explore a new young body like that?

06:08:40.420 What if they're not young?

06:08:41.580 What if it's a 30-year-old virgin?

06:08:42.960 They donated $100.

06:08:45.300 Feel for you, Brian.

06:08:46.820 Don't think you'll get through to them, dot ladies.

06:08:49.640 Men and women aren't the same.

06:08:51.740 Most of this panel is 100% delusional.

06:08:55.400 Men don't seek experience.

06:08:57.460 They seek exclusivity and security.

06:09:00.360 W the lulus.

06:09:03.640 Okay.

06:09:04.080 What is your, so what is your argument?

06:09:07.180 I just think it's a little weird.

06:09:09.000 Okay, you think it's weird.

06:09:10.320 What's your argument?

06:09:11.780 Um, I get what she was saying.

06:09:16.160 What are you saying?

06:09:17.240 But also, it's just like, what's the intrigue?

06:09:21.160 Intriguing behind a fresh new body like that?

06:09:25.320 Because, I don't know.

06:09:26.900 Because, like I was saying, the P word's like young people who aren't experienced.

06:09:32.840 It's just like a virgin, you know?

06:09:35.760 And I'm just trying to make that connection for you.

06:09:38.380 And if you can't click it, then that's okay.

06:09:40.940 End of conversation.

06:09:41.880 Okay, words have meaning, definitionally.

06:09:50.480 Words are spells.

06:09:51.580 So, let's say, for example, a 25-year-old virgin.

06:09:58.660 This is an adult woman.

06:09:59.840 So, how, what is the argument you're going to make that a man who's attracted to a 25-year-old

06:10:05.240 woman who happens to be a virgin is in any way P word?

06:10:11.100 What's my argument?

06:10:14.800 Like, what do you mean?

06:10:16.760 How are you coming to the conclusion that a man who's attracted to a 25-year-old secretly

06:10:22.580 is attracted to what?

06:10:23.800 Is it, you have to be under 15 or 14 to be considered, to be attracted to that?

06:10:27.500 Well, the fact that he's been sitting there waiting for a virgin is kind of weird.

06:10:32.680 Who knows that that's the case?

06:10:34.760 But also, I know, like, the religious standpoint and all that.

06:10:38.260 Okay, sure.

06:10:39.240 Let's go there.

06:10:39.980 So, are Christian men or Muslim men who want to date a virgin, are you prepared to make the

06:10:45.140 argument that Christian and Muslim men are P words because they prefer virgins?

06:10:50.860 Christians, yes.

06:10:53.740 Why?

06:10:54.540 No comment.

06:10:55.200 That's it.

06:10:56.380 Ah, okay.

06:10:58.100 So, you're fine with attacking Christians, but not Muslims.

06:11:01.360 Is that what you're saying?

06:11:03.460 I wonder why that is.

06:11:04.940 Me too.

06:11:05.400 If you really feel that way, I would like you to enlighten me.

06:11:09.340 I've asked her to make an argument, and she can't.

06:11:11.480 And if you misspoke, then you can just say that you misspoke.

06:11:14.520 But if you genuinely mean that, I would love to hear why.

06:11:17.640 Have you guys not, I'm sorry, I'm just not trying to, like, get, like, the government on this shit.

06:11:23.920 Government, no, you're good.

06:11:25.380 But, like, explain your thought, like, fully.

06:11:28.000 Because we, you came on a podcast to explain your opinions and to put your opinions out there.

06:11:34.060 I'm a Christian.

06:11:34.900 I would love to hear what you have to say about this.

06:11:37.620 And if you want to recant your statement, recant your statement.

06:11:39.940 No, you're good, you're good.

06:11:40.880 Because remember how I was talking about how they knocked on my door?

06:11:43.720 Yeah.

06:11:43.960 Okay, so, um, I just see Christianity as, and I know you guys look at me like a demon, but I see as kind of like a cult, low-key.

06:11:56.500 And you guys are being brainwashed, and I don't mean that in no disrespectful way.

06:12:01.520 Wait, just curious.

06:12:02.300 Why are Christians, in what way are they being brainwashed?

06:12:05.280 Is it because they believe in God?

06:12:06.300 I already explained it earlier.

06:12:06.960 I don't recall you explaining it.

06:12:09.520 It's because, because, okay, this is what they told me.

06:12:12.560 And she explained it too, but she said, or the people told me, I was like, okay, so in order to go to heaven, all I, okay, Jesus committed his sins for us.

06:12:24.840 So we came here as sinners.

06:12:26.060 So we're already sinners.

06:12:27.360 So that's what they told me, right?

06:12:30.020 So I was like, okay, so in order to go to heaven, all I have to do is just, like, pray and believe in whatever.

06:12:37.520 And she, and then she explained to me, like, the differentiation between that.

06:12:42.040 And I was like, oh, so that means if you're in our word or in whatever, you're still going to heaven.

06:12:48.060 And, yeah, and they're like, yeah.

06:12:49.680 So that's why I was kind of like, what the fuck?

06:12:51.480 Okay, but back to you.

06:12:52.520 Hold on.

06:12:52.900 Wait, wait, one thing.

06:12:53.940 You said, okay, you said Christianity is a cult.

06:12:56.040 What about the other religions?

06:12:57.000 Are you prepared to make that statement about the other religions?

06:13:00.000 No.

06:13:01.060 So why do you single out Christianity?

06:13:03.580 Because I've just been doing more research on that one right now.

06:13:06.540 I mean, if anything, I think you can make the argument about Catholicism.

06:13:11.360 We're getting into the weeds here.

06:13:13.560 But Islam is, have you heard of Aisha?

06:13:15.640 Wait, let's not go there.

06:13:17.400 Let's not go there.

06:13:18.460 All right.

06:13:18.900 I just wanted to know your further in-depth opinion.

06:13:21.620 I'm not even going to continue engaging there.

06:13:23.320 It's just getting ridiculous.

06:13:24.580 Let's hit on body count really quick.

06:13:26.240 Let's try to wrap up soon.

06:13:27.520 So, yeah.

06:13:28.740 So you wanted to segue.

06:13:30.360 You said you disagree with me on-

06:13:32.740 Oh, hold on.

06:13:34.060 Gragle donated $150.

06:13:37.240 This woman is stupid.

06:13:39.540 Pedos don't care if a child has experience or not.

06:13:43.100 They are attracted to children.

06:13:45.020 That's why they are pedos.

06:13:46.980 The definition is someone attracted to a child.

06:13:50.420 Adults aren't kids.

06:13:54.040 Word.

06:13:54.520 Yes, words have meaning.

06:13:58.140 Here, I'll read this and then we'll get into it.

06:13:59.860 Words are spelled.

06:14:00.420 Sean, Brian, put in a good word for me with Brie.

06:14:02.760 Remember, I saved you from that line.

06:14:05.340 Yeah, Sean, Brie.

06:14:07.540 Brie, Sean did save me from a line one time.

06:14:10.560 Oh, my God.

06:14:10.900 Thank you, Brie.

06:14:11.660 Oh, my God.

06:14:12.200 I'm so happy he's alive.

06:14:13.580 If he slides into your DMs, I'm just saying, give him a chance.

06:14:19.660 You know, give him a chance.

06:14:20.700 Hi, Sean.

06:14:21.180 Thank you.

06:14:21.580 You disagree with me on body count?

06:14:24.920 Go ahead.

06:14:25.500 So you, I don't remember when you said it, but you said, well, you made the connection

06:14:33.100 of body count.

06:14:35.700 Once you have a high body count, it almost sticks to you.

06:14:38.800 It is your past and it defines who you are.

06:14:41.120 And you equated it to, well, once you're a murderer, you're always a murderer.

06:14:44.720 And I can see where you're coming from, but I don't agree with that.

06:14:49.880 I feel, so, for example.

06:14:53.000 Did I say that?

06:14:53.800 Yeah, you did.

06:14:54.600 Did I?

06:14:55.100 Yeah.

06:14:56.020 Okay, let's just assume I did.

06:14:57.600 Okay, and?

06:14:58.420 So, for me, personally, I, I don't think I slept around a lot, but I had my share of fun

06:15:08.660 after my divorce, and I did a lot of regrettable things when I was younger.

06:15:14.620 And as I've matured, as I've grown older, as I've become a mother, I take my, who I let

06:15:23.460 into my bed more seriously.

06:15:25.540 And I've grown, and I've become more wise and more particular with the men that I choose

06:15:33.600 to be with.

06:15:34.540 And I, I don't feel like once you've been a promiscuous person, once you've been an only

06:15:40.400 fans girl, that that always has to define you.

06:15:43.740 I think you can grow and learn and evolve and mature and move on, and that stigma doesn't

06:15:50.000 always have to be attached to you.

06:15:52.160 Exactly.

06:15:52.600 Just like the whatever podcast doesn't have to be attached to you forever.

06:15:57.760 You feel me?

06:15:58.780 Like, you can grow from that, you can get another representation.

06:16:01.360 Just, I mean, it's, it's basically just, like, throwing it out there.

06:16:05.300 Were you dropped on your head as a child?

06:16:08.040 Were you?

06:16:09.340 I'm asking you.

06:16:09.900 Because you're clearly not understanding what I'm saying.

06:16:11.740 No, I'm clearly not.

06:16:13.040 So, I guess you were dropped.

06:16:15.360 I mean, just.

06:16:16.040 Was that the reverse, you know?

06:16:17.060 Well done.

06:16:17.580 You did great there.

06:16:18.440 To just, like, throw it out once somebody's born again.

06:16:22.600 You know, whatever they've.

06:16:23.900 Wait, are you born again?

06:16:24.500 No.

06:16:25.000 Whatever they've done in the past, they've now set a new life course for themselves.

06:16:30.800 Right.

06:16:31.280 Living in, for example, a better, a better, more pure light.

06:16:35.480 Okay.

06:16:35.740 So, I mean, there's a couple things there.

06:16:36.900 So, there's one, I make arguments.

06:16:38.560 But I also, just to interrupt you, I feel that way to a point.

06:16:42.140 If you slept with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people,

06:16:46.120 then, it's kind of a slippery slope.

06:16:49.480 So, I say to a point.

06:16:51.040 Okay.

06:16:51.720 Well, there's a couple things there.

06:16:53.860 First, we can get into the body count.

06:16:55.120 But the other thing is, I've made arguments of, well, if a girl in her past, previously,

06:17:00.940 for example, had sex with men fairly quickly.

06:17:03.340 But then, all of a sudden, changed up.

06:17:05.320 Yeah.

06:17:05.840 The past 20 men she slept with.

06:17:08.260 And then, forcing the next guy to wait, like, three, four, five weeks.

06:17:11.860 Or until marriage.

06:17:12.740 I've heard that, yeah.

06:17:13.640 You're free to do it.

06:17:14.560 Mm-hmm.

06:17:15.020 But, I think that's an L for the guy.

06:17:18.620 I think that's an L for the guy.

06:17:20.020 Yeah.

06:17:22.160 I think.

06:17:23.660 I can understand her reasoning.

06:17:24.580 Well, you might be able to find a guy who's okay with it.

06:17:26.580 Yeah.

06:17:26.940 And I can.

06:17:27.360 But, I personally would be like, one, I mean, maybe I'm not the best guy to ask on this

06:17:31.960 because I'm not interested in waiting long periods of time before having sex.

06:17:35.460 I think, me personally, I don't really believe in waiting for sex.

06:17:39.220 Mm-hmm.

06:17:39.640 Yeah.

06:17:40.000 You know, in terms of, like.

06:17:42.060 I feel that.

06:17:43.060 You know, I'm fine having sex relatively early on.

06:17:46.760 Mm-hmm.

06:17:46.900 And I'm not going to judge the girl for it.

06:17:49.060 I think there's better indicators where you can make judgments on that front.

06:17:52.620 But, I just think it's, well, there's a couple factors to this.

06:18:00.880 So, for example, if, like, that's going to just be her guaranteed position moving forward.

06:18:05.860 Okay.

06:18:06.060 I want to wait three months from now on.

06:18:07.640 And you're never going to falter from that.

06:18:09.580 Mm-hmm.

06:18:09.920 That's a bit more respectable than, like, I would feel kind of like a sucker.

06:18:13.580 If she was wishy-washy with it.

06:18:14.980 Yeah.

06:18:15.220 Like, a week ago, she fucked a guy really quick.

06:18:18.080 Oh, you meet me.

06:18:18.900 You've changed up.

06:18:19.700 You want to wait three months.

06:18:20.700 We date for six months.

06:18:21.720 And then, as soon as you're out of the relationship, you fuck a guy right away.

06:18:25.200 It's like, okay, that was never your actual value set.

06:18:28.180 You just arbitrarily wanted to leverage sex for some reason.

06:18:32.180 Or, you heard something in a fucking cosmopolitan.

06:18:35.220 Mm-hmm.

06:18:35.400 And you're going to leverage sex to get compliance in some way.

06:18:38.840 Eh, not about it.

06:18:39.960 Yeah.

06:18:40.260 Not about it.

06:18:41.340 Now, I mean, but my advice to men, for example, who maybe they also want to wait.

06:18:45.740 I still think it's a suboptimal dating choice for you to get with a girl who previously was promiscuous.

06:18:52.240 And then, now she's going to make your...

06:18:53.960 Look, as a woman, you can always change up.

06:18:55.860 Mm-hmm.

06:18:56.140 You slept with 100 men on the first date.

06:18:58.680 And then, you meet a guy you really like.

06:19:00.580 And you want to wait until marriage.

06:19:02.080 Mm-hmm.

06:19:02.520 That's your call.

06:19:03.200 You can do that.

06:19:04.080 Mm-hmm.

06:19:04.240 I think that's a raw deal for the guy.

06:19:06.940 Mm-hmm.

06:19:07.520 You're free to do it.

06:19:08.620 But from the guy's perspective, that feels like a raw deal.

06:19:11.780 I could totally...

06:19:12.660 I could totally see that.

06:19:13.040 Whether you want to wait or not.

06:19:14.600 Mm-hmm.

06:19:15.440 I always like the adage, there's always a lid to every pot.

06:19:19.380 So, even if you do egregious things when you're younger, you don't make the wisest decisions,

06:19:25.000 all it takes is one person to love you for who you are and see past what you did in that past,

06:19:32.840 accept you for who you are now and your goals and how you want to move forward, and call it a day.

06:19:39.160 You just need that one person to see it.

06:19:40.900 Everything happens for a reason.

06:19:42.320 I mean, just from my own experience, I've encountered...

06:19:45.620 I've dated some women who they'll tell...

06:19:48.200 I'll ask kind of some details about their past.

06:19:50.940 They'll tell me.

06:19:51.580 And I do feel, like, a bit raw about it.

06:19:55.420 Like, oh, you've hooked up with these guys and you hooked up with them quick, but now you want to wait weeks.

06:20:03.820 Well, maybe she thought you were special and different, and that's why she wanted to wait.

06:20:07.200 Because she was like, wow, Brian's this really cool, intellectual, interesting guy.

06:20:11.020 I don't want to ruin my chances and sleep with him right away and have the chance that he's going to think of me a certain way,

06:20:16.260 so I'm going to wait for him.

06:20:17.420 Well, here's the thing.

06:20:18.000 You, at least for me specifically, you've actually gone ahead and ruined your chances with me

06:20:23.820 if you're going to make me wait when you didn't make other men in the past wait.

06:20:28.320 If it's always been your standard, if all the guys you dated, you waited, that's more acceptable.

06:20:33.680 If you're a virgin, that's more acceptable.

06:20:36.460 But if you've fucked 10 other dudes, 7 other dudes, quick, and then, oh, Brian, I want to wait until marriage.

06:20:44.000 I want to wait three months, I'm going to look at you like, I'm just not going to date you.

06:20:49.720 I'm not going to pressure you.

06:20:51.060 I'm just going to be like, hey, there's a mismatch here.

06:20:54.380 You want to wait.

06:20:55.400 I don't.

06:20:56.140 Let's go our separate ways.

06:20:58.740 I think that's a little weird of you to ask such a specific question, though.

06:21:02.040 What do you mean?

06:21:02.640 How's it weird?

06:21:03.060 Like, has any guy ever asked you girls, like, what's your patterns on how you have sex in the past before me?

06:21:10.020 That's a little weird.

06:21:11.020 No, never.

06:21:11.640 Well, it could come up like this.

06:21:13.160 I mean, if you're a guy and you're desirous of having sex with a girl and she's like, no, no, no, I've got a 90-day rule, a 60-day rule.

06:21:22.660 I want to wait three months.

06:21:24.460 I'm going to be like, oh, okay, I respect that.

06:21:26.720 Has that been your standard for all the other guys you've dated?

06:21:29.460 And if you tell me no, oh, yeah, I hooked up with a guy a month ago.

06:21:33.940 You're not fresh enough in your new value set for me to take you seriously with that.

06:21:38.760 So if you're going to be steadfast and want to wait, it was nice meeting you, but I ain't waiting.

06:21:46.400 That's why I healed for so long.

06:21:48.340 And I think women, if you want to make, just like you said, you want to give the car a test drive, like women can also, if the guy wants to wait till marriage,

06:21:57.240 and you want, as women, want to have sex before marriage, that can be a deal breaker for you.

06:22:03.460 And you can say, I don't want to wait.

06:22:05.780 I'm going to meet somebody new.

06:22:07.180 It was nice to meet you.

06:22:07.880 Goodbye.

06:22:09.440 Yeah, respectfully, no.

06:22:11.640 So I don't have a double standard on it.

06:22:13.400 Okay.

06:22:14.160 But look, let me, to give you, I want to give you an analogy here.

06:22:17.120 So you were saying, well, she really likes you, so, you know, all those other guys were just mistakes and were just fun, but she really likes you.

06:22:28.780 Or maybe she just decided she woke up one day and she's like, you know what, I don't want to be promiscuous anymore.

06:22:33.740 I don't want to sleep with guys on the first date anymore.

06:22:36.140 Wait, Nick, do you have that cuck flower meme that's, uh...

06:22:38.840 Oh, cucks?

06:22:39.620 The cuck flower meme that, it has to be, uh, it has to be censored, the censored one, though.

06:22:46.740 I'm a professional in cucks.

06:22:49.540 Okay, thank you for sharing that.

06:22:52.020 It's just, I don't, it's, you're going to have to Google it.

06:22:55.360 It's just, look, you reward the fuckboys who will never give you commitment with, and you reward them with immediate sex,

06:23:02.160 but you punish the guys who are worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks or months?

06:23:08.700 I don't know, it's just...

06:23:09.280 I think maybe the mentality, and I could be wrong, but I think maybe the mentality is kind of going along with what you said,

06:23:15.960 or what you've said in the past, is if a girl sleeps with you right away, you might not take her seriously down the line.

06:23:25.540 I never said that.

06:23:25.560 I never said that.

06:23:26.280 Okay.

06:23:27.120 Well, some men might think that, like, if they sleep with a girl right away, she's kind of, she's out of the running for relationship status.

06:23:35.740 I agree with you that some men will certainly view it that way.

06:23:38.800 Me personally, I don't think that that's a good metric to disqualify a girl on based on the quickness with which she has sex with you.

06:23:46.380 Yeah.

06:23:47.040 Okay.

06:23:47.960 Oh, he's ready.

06:23:49.400 You got something, Nick?

06:23:50.260 Yeah.

06:23:50.420 Yeah, this is kind of, it's censored, but I don't know.

06:23:57.860 This is, like, kind of it.

06:24:00.240 That's how guys feel.

06:24:02.500 It's kind of gay.

06:24:03.860 Kind of, well, no, it's not.

06:24:05.540 Wait.

06:24:05.800 What's the uncensored part?

06:24:07.580 I can't make out what it is.

06:24:08.960 Okay, it's a line of men.

06:24:11.160 There's a girl at the end, and then one of the guys has flowers.

06:24:14.860 Oh, so it's the girl bending over?

06:24:16.980 This just sounds like a bunch of insecure men.

06:24:19.780 Okay.

06:24:20.580 Insecure, yeah, okay.

06:24:21.760 Here, I'll give you a couple of analogies here.

06:24:23.580 So, tell me if this resonates at all.

06:24:27.220 This is for the whole panel.

06:24:28.380 Tell me how you would feel.

06:24:30.060 So, you really like this guy.

06:24:33.200 You go on a date.

06:24:34.140 Everything is great.

06:24:34.920 But you find out he wants to go 50-50 with you until you guys are married.

06:24:39.800 But then you learn his last three girlfriends, he paid for everything.

06:24:45.520 Rent, dates, vacations.

06:24:49.420 He even went on a date a week before he met you, and he paid the entire bill, all the chivalry, all that.

06:24:56.120 How does that make you feel?

06:24:57.800 I think maybe he's just being cautious.

06:25:01.960 Maybe he's just been screwed over one too many times by gold diggers.

06:25:05.900 I don't mind the cautiousness.

06:25:08.320 I think if maybe...

06:25:09.140 You wouldn't feel a certain type of way about that?

06:25:10.980 I mean, everybody has the right to change their mind and to change, you know, how they go about dating.

06:25:17.660 You don't have to stick to one thing for the rest of your dating life.

06:25:20.940 Well, she also said you were okay with doing 50-50, though, right?

06:25:24.280 Absolutely.

06:25:24.440 So, that's, I mean, yeah, obviously.

06:25:26.240 I think if we started dating...

06:25:27.500 I got more analogies.

06:25:28.400 I think if we started dating and I could see that we were both, you know, going towards a certain path, I wouldn't mind doing 50-50.

06:25:35.660 But it's weird.

06:25:36.400 It's like you withhold intimacy with the man that you supposedly like, but you'll give it away to men who are undeserving.

06:25:45.580 Like, we'll have girls...

06:25:46.660 We've had girls come on the show and they'll say, well, if I'm traveling or I just want to have fun, I'll just fuck right away.

06:25:52.500 But then the guy I really like, I'm going to...

06:25:55.260 Even though it's not even my value set, it's just this arbitrary thing, I'm going to make the guy who I really, really like, I'm going to make him wait for sex.

06:26:03.660 Even if he wants it, I'll make him wait.

06:26:05.600 Yeah, because she probably wants a relationship from that particular person.

06:26:09.720 She just doesn't want to get...

06:26:11.280 She just doesn't want a...

06:26:13.040 So you're using sex as leverage to...

06:26:15.660 Yeah, and she's using the other man as a distraction until she gets the other man.

06:26:19.680 I think she just wants to go with the intent of having it be more serious as opposed to just a hookup in the beginning.

06:26:26.160 How about this?

06:26:27.340 How about this?

06:26:28.100 Okay.

06:26:30.380 All the exes got five-star meals.

06:26:35.840 But you get McDonald's.

06:26:38.160 I'm fine with that.

06:26:38.820 Because he turned...

06:26:39.760 Fire.

06:26:40.740 Because he turned over a new leaf.

06:26:42.820 Hey, he's saving money.

06:26:44.520 Okay.

06:26:45.180 That didn't work.

06:26:45.980 Okay, how about this one?

06:26:47.640 I'm really open-minded.

06:26:48.800 I get McDonald's every Friday, you guys.

06:26:52.120 How about this?

06:26:53.280 I thought we were against McDonald's.

06:26:54.300 Okay, I'm...

06:26:55.000 Are we?

06:26:56.220 Let's just...

06:26:56.820 Okay, we're just going to go back to body count because I'm not going to be able to explain this to you guys.

06:27:01.320 Okay, do you think...

06:27:02.400 Going around the table, do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?

06:27:05.880 Yes.

06:27:07.360 No.

06:27:09.180 Not necessarily insecure if it's, like, religious reasons.

06:27:12.460 But kind of what I explained earlier of, like, they ideally want a girl with a low body count because they don't want her to compare.

06:27:21.880 So it's not saying, like, oh, you're just fucking insecure.

06:27:25.020 It's just, like, yeah.

06:27:25.820 Sure.

06:27:26.220 In the back of your head.

06:27:27.240 Sometimes.

06:27:28.060 Sometimes.

06:27:28.880 I would say sometimes, too.

06:27:30.880 They're insecure.

06:27:31.660 Okay.

06:27:32.120 No.

06:27:32.900 No?

06:27:33.280 Okay.

06:27:33.760 I would say no.

06:27:34.500 I think it's just personal preference.

06:27:36.140 Fair.

06:27:36.680 I'd say sometimes.

06:27:37.840 Sometimes insecure.

06:27:38.860 Okay.

06:27:39.380 What about you?

06:27:40.420 No.

06:27:40.780 Okay.

06:27:42.420 All right.

06:27:44.040 Should body count matter?

06:27:47.120 Um, no.

06:27:49.120 Yeah.

06:27:49.720 For me, it does.

06:27:50.740 Okay.

06:27:51.540 For me, it personally doesn't.

06:27:53.520 No.

06:27:54.440 No.

06:27:55.460 No.

06:27:56.500 No.

06:27:57.620 No.

06:27:58.340 Yes.

06:27:59.960 If body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?

06:28:04.880 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

06:28:06.560 Five.

06:28:06.880 Five?

06:28:09.040 Five?

06:28:09.840 Mm-hmm.

06:28:10.960 I'm 22 years old.

06:28:13.340 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

06:28:15.480 Oh, okay.

06:28:16.300 Um, five times three, and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

06:28:19.780 What's your body count?

06:28:21.820 Seven.

06:28:23.220 I'm not disclosing.

06:28:24.740 No, come on.

06:28:25.580 Didn't you say it last show?

06:28:26.780 No.

06:28:27.920 Range?

06:28:28.480 Want to give a range?

06:28:30.120 Less than 20.

06:28:31.480 Oh, okay.

06:28:32.460 Seven.

06:28:33.960 Seven.

06:28:34.800 Hold on now.

06:28:36.820 You guys all have the same body count?

06:28:39.520 You're friends?

06:28:40.480 Seven?

06:28:41.480 That's the truth.

06:28:42.520 Okay, all right.

06:28:43.300 Seven, angel, nana.

06:28:44.540 Nine?

06:28:45.920 29.

06:28:47.000 29?

06:28:48.560 Wait, hold on.

06:28:49.480 Oh, saved by the TTS.

06:28:50.760 $100.

06:28:52.360 High body count shows a difference in values.

06:28:55.740 Women don't like men who sleep with dudes.

06:28:58.740 Why do you all think men want you after you've slept with the exact PPA you don't like in a partner?

06:29:04.000 Yeah, based, based gragle.

06:29:09.320 Body count?

06:29:12.460 I'm not going to say.

06:29:13.480 Range?

06:29:13.960 You want to do range?

06:29:14.860 I only sleep with people I'm in relationships with.

06:29:18.960 In the past, I would do that.

06:29:20.740 Less than 10?

06:29:21.460 Yeah.

06:29:21.880 Okay.

06:29:23.160 I didn't disclose last time.

06:29:26.220 Range?

06:29:26.560 Why are some people allowed to disclose not fair?

06:29:28.780 I guess, you know, shit, it's not fair.

06:29:31.300 Life's not fair.

06:29:31.900 I mean, he's not, like, holding you.

06:29:33.360 Yeah, you're right.

06:29:33.840 Life's not fair.

06:29:34.640 At least I'm not capping.

06:29:36.300 Five?

06:29:37.660 I'm 22, and I was in a relationship since I was 15.

06:29:42.100 Three years.

06:29:43.900 Then, wait, one, then three, then one.

06:29:48.420 Huh.

06:29:49.160 Yeah.

06:29:50.040 I want to ask the chat.

06:29:51.020 Chat, do you think she's telling the truth?

06:29:53.000 Let me know, chat.

06:29:53.920 Bye-bye.

06:29:54.200 I'm not going to say no.

06:29:54.800 Well, whatever your answers are.

06:29:56.240 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

06:29:59.080 All right.

06:29:59.380 Well, I want to give you guys credit.

06:30:00.980 Should I do the math again?

06:30:01.180 I want to give you guys credit, though, for answering the question.

06:30:03.520 Should I do the math?

06:30:03.740 Those of you who did.

06:30:04.920 No, it's good.

06:30:06.020 I know it's hard on you to do that.

06:30:08.100 No, it's not.

06:30:08.880 I think it's hard on you.

06:30:10.500 That's why you didn't do it for me.

06:30:11.880 Wait.

06:30:12.920 Brian.

06:30:13.960 Brian.

06:30:14.480 Yeah, what's that?

06:30:15.000 What's your body count?

06:30:15.860 Well, hold on.

06:30:16.340 You didn't disclose.

06:30:17.020 You can't be asking me that.

06:30:17.380 Yes, I did.

06:30:18.000 I gave you a range.

06:30:18.680 Give me a range.

06:30:18.880 Wait, yeah, what is your body count?

06:30:20.160 I don't disclose my body count.

06:30:21.520 Sorry, guys.

06:30:22.160 But it's personal.

06:30:23.100 Oh, yeah, there we go.

06:30:25.220 Wait, I have a question.

06:30:26.220 Oh, boy.

06:30:27.560 What about Gustavo?

06:30:28.380 Give us a range.

06:30:29.920 Gustavo, what's your body count?

06:30:31.120 We should uproach.

06:30:31.900 No.

06:30:32.860 No.

06:30:33.620 Cero.

06:30:34.800 Cero.

06:30:35.580 Cero.

06:30:35.840 You said cero.

06:30:37.800 Ah, Cero.

06:30:38.580 That's really personal, though.

06:30:40.040 It's crazy how you ask these personal questions to us, and we can ask you the personal questions.

06:30:43.380 It's almost like I'm kind of the interviewer, kind of.

06:30:45.940 I know, but like.

06:30:46.740 Imagine that.

06:30:47.540 What happened?

06:30:49.500 Bro, what is up with?

06:30:50.800 In your childhood.

06:30:51.720 Bro, are you?

06:30:53.440 What?

06:30:56.200 Girl, you should make merch.

06:30:57.860 I don't know about that.

06:30:58.560 Like, what happened?

06:31:00.080 What happened, Brian?

06:31:01.540 That's what it's going to say.

06:31:03.240 Sorry.

06:31:03.720 Honestly, I would buy it.

06:31:04.380 That's copyright right there.

06:31:06.500 Maybe I'll just put a one instead of an I so I don't get copyrighted.

06:31:11.220 No, you totally could, and then you can donate the proceeds to people for chemotherapy.

06:31:14.840 Yeah.

06:31:15.080 Boom.

06:31:16.140 I don't think it's insecure for men to care about body count.

06:31:19.260 Okay.

06:31:20.000 In fact, I think it's super secure.

06:31:22.360 Okay.

06:31:23.060 Super secure.

06:31:24.580 Interesting.

06:31:25.100 Look, let's just go over a couple basic ones.

06:31:26.880 Obviously, somebody who's had more sexual partners is more likely to have an STD.

06:31:31.260 People who have had more sexual partners are more likely to cheat, more likely for there

06:31:37.220 to be infidelity.

06:31:38.240 Greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction, greater likelihood of difficulty when

06:31:44.220 it comes to pair bonding.

06:31:45.360 Also, there's a biological component or an evo-psych component of why men care about this more than

06:31:53.060 women.

06:31:53.500 It comes down to paternity certainty.

06:31:56.460 So in the past, before there were DNA tests, if a woman was promiscuous, and let's say that

06:32:03.780 if she was dating multiple men, sleeping with multiple men at the same time, there would

06:32:07.740 be no way to know who the father is.

06:32:10.980 And obviously, men want to ensure paternity.

06:32:14.540 They want to be sure that the child is in fact theirs.

06:32:17.040 It's one of the biggest L's that you can take in your life as a man, is to raise a kid that

06:32:21.260 you think is yours, but actually isn't.

06:32:23.180 I've heard that story a lot.

06:32:27.040 Are you laughing at paternity fraud?

06:32:29.280 Is that funny to you?

06:32:30.860 No, it's not funny.

06:32:32.080 Do you think it's funny?

06:32:33.240 I don't think it's funny.

06:32:34.400 I think it's...

06:32:35.860 Actually, I think it should be criminalized, to be honest.

06:32:38.480 Actually, I do this thing where when I'm uncomfortable, I laugh.

06:32:42.060 Okay, whatever.

06:32:43.000 I get it.

06:32:43.600 People laugh when they're uncomfortable.

06:32:44.740 Cool.

06:32:45.740 So, I mean, that's a big part of it.

06:32:47.380 So, yeah.

06:32:49.400 And then, honestly, it's kind of gross.

06:32:51.620 It's just kind of gross.

06:32:58.260 Agreed?

06:32:59.860 For women or for everyone?

06:33:01.720 I think, look, if women can feel gross about it, too, like when it comes to promiscuity,

06:33:07.200 like would you feel a little gross, for example, and I'm using an extreme example here to make

06:33:11.580 my point.

06:33:12.340 Yes, probably.

06:33:13.140 Okay, she doesn't even want to hear it.

06:33:16.740 Would you feel a little grossed out, for example, if a guy had sex with a girl?

06:33:21.620 And then, like within that same day, went and had sex with you?

06:33:26.880 Yeah, it's a different question of body count, but yeah.

06:33:29.440 Well, it's a little different, but it's...

06:33:31.480 It's not the same thing.

06:33:32.120 It's kind of related, though.

06:33:34.020 It's like not so...

06:33:35.720 It's related to promiscuity.

06:33:37.580 So, if, for example, like you hooked up with a girl today...

06:33:42.320 Mm-hmm.

06:33:42.900 And then I fucked you.

06:33:45.140 That's what you were about to say.

06:33:46.500 Whoa.

06:33:46.700 Flirting.

06:33:46.980 Flirting begins again.

06:33:48.080 Hey, again.

06:33:49.680 Should I just walk away?

06:33:51.460 Your eyes lit up.

06:33:52.500 Look, he's blushing.

06:33:52.960 You guys want some face to look at me.

06:33:55.080 Yeah, we can go.

06:33:55.340 We can go.

06:33:58.760 We can wrap it up for y'all.

06:34:03.020 Anyways, what I was going to say is if theoretically, right?

06:34:06.100 That's fucking disgusting.

06:34:08.560 No, no, no.

06:34:09.440 The promiscuity thing.

06:34:11.260 Sorry.

06:34:11.340 Yeah, yeah.

06:34:12.020 That's what I thought.

06:34:13.020 Because I was about to go off.

06:34:15.120 Calm down.

06:34:15.880 Relax.

06:34:16.640 It's good.

06:34:17.340 Can I finish my question?

06:34:18.280 Yeah, go for it.

06:34:18.860 Okay, cool.

06:34:19.700 So, if you have a big body count, right?

06:34:22.100 Because you didn't disclose because you don't want to.

06:34:24.460 And that's fair.

06:34:25.200 Sure.

06:34:25.460 If it means a lot to you, it doesn't really matter.

06:34:27.280 Go ahead.

06:34:27.680 Go ahead.

06:34:28.280 But if you have a big body count, but you're only hooking up with one person right now, how does

06:34:32.460 that affect anything?

06:34:34.360 What do you mean?

06:34:34.920 If you never disclosed that to them, they never asked you, would you expect someone

06:34:38.800 to judge you off of your body count?

06:34:40.800 Theoretically, if it's high.

06:34:41.880 I mean, I'm pretty sure it is.

06:34:43.720 Why do you say that?

06:34:44.720 Because you're flirty.

06:34:45.980 No, I can tell.

06:34:47.460 I'm just kidding.

06:34:48.100 She can tell I'm a virgin.

06:34:50.580 No, maybe not a virgin.

06:34:52.380 If a girl wanted to disqualify me because of my body count, that's fine.

06:34:57.160 I don't have an issue with it.

06:34:58.180 But I'm saying, if that was never even a topic of conversation, is that a red flag to

06:35:01.800 you?

06:35:01.960 Does that really matter?

06:35:03.900 What's the question?

06:35:05.240 Like, how do I phrase it?

06:35:10.320 I want to put you in that position.

06:35:12.480 If your body count is high, but now you're only hooking up with one person, your past

06:35:20.040 doesn't really affect right now.

06:35:22.800 You're talking about hooking up with multiple people at the same time.

06:35:25.640 That's, like, not the same thing.

06:35:29.320 It's kind of related because it's related to promiscuity, right?

06:35:33.100 Body count is proxy for promiscuity.

06:35:37.780 Now, I agree with you.

06:35:38.520 For example, a woman to steel man your position.

06:35:42.520 Let's say a woman had sex with 100 men, right?

06:35:45.940 Okay.

06:35:46.340 But then she didn't have sex for three years, right?

06:35:50.180 My example that I provided would not be a strong argument to make because, well, how does the

06:35:55.220 disgust factor come into this?

06:35:57.360 Because she's been celibate for three years.

06:35:59.540 You could still, I could actually maybe still make an argument that it's kind of still disgusting,

06:36:03.320 but let's assume she doesn't even have STDs.

06:36:06.100 She's totally clean.

06:36:07.500 Still kind of, there's still kind of, I'm still kind of grossed out by it.

06:36:11.580 But that's, like, in your head type of thing because it's, like, she's clean and she hasn't

06:36:16.920 had sex in three years, so it's just.

06:36:18.560 What's happened?

06:36:19.380 But, okay, let's say, let's say she has a high body count and she's still being promiscuous.

06:36:24.620 Okay, that's fair.

06:36:25.020 So body count would be proxy for her promiscuity and then it stands to reason that she's been

06:36:30.140 perhaps sexually active recently and then it would be, like, an actual physical disgust

06:36:36.660 over, you just fucked somebody else.

06:36:40.260 That's a different story.

06:36:41.120 There's maybe seeds.

06:36:43.880 Right.

06:36:44.540 Hey, it takes a couple days.

06:36:47.300 A day, 24, 48 hours.

06:36:49.820 I think it's never leaked out.

06:36:52.020 For, like, five days.

06:36:53.320 It's never leaked out, like, seven hours later.

06:36:55.160 Come on, ladies.

06:36:56.800 Oh, my God.

06:36:58.280 Calm down, bro.

06:36:59.120 Relax.

06:36:59.440 I'm the sex worker here.

06:37:00.260 Don't get too excited here, Jesus Christ.

06:37:02.120 Oh, I shouldn't have said that.

06:37:02.980 My bad.

06:37:05.940 Okay, let's see.

06:37:12.860 Brianna.

06:37:13.900 You're a very conservative Christian, pro-life, anti-porn, anti-OnlyFans.

06:37:17.880 You used to post scandalous pictures before the OnlyFans days.

06:37:21.520 You got a lot of attention, which has trickled into your adult life, has kept you in negative

06:37:25.420 cycles.

06:37:26.700 Friendships, relationships, lifestyle habits don't benefit you.

06:37:29.440 You wanted to share the other side of modesty and how different life is for me, now that

06:37:33.880 you uphold yourself from a place of integrity and respect, and that sex work doesn't have

06:37:38.200 to be the only way to be a young, successful adult.

06:37:42.300 Yeah.

06:37:42.660 Okay, go ahead.

06:37:43.300 I need to get up really quick.

06:37:44.440 Yeah.

06:37:44.880 Go ahead.

06:37:45.480 Speed.

06:37:46.380 So, I...

06:37:47.380 I'm very far from this mic.

06:37:49.540 I'm sorry.

06:37:51.320 You can approach.

06:37:52.760 Sorry.

06:37:53.240 Okay.

06:37:55.160 No, so I never...

06:37:56.720 This was before OnlyFans, like, was a thing.

06:37:59.300 Just, like, on Instagram and social media, whatever, I'd post bikini pics, scandalous

06:38:03.980 pics, butt shots, like, all whatever.

06:38:07.400 I was, like, 18, 19, 20, and that validation from a man felt really good.

06:38:13.060 I mean, I'm not making money off of it, or I wasn't making money off of it, and it was very

06:38:17.440 superficial, but I did exchange sexual favors for other things, and I did do the whole, like,

06:38:24.560 sugar baby thing for a while, and I thought that made me feel good.

06:38:29.220 I thought that gave me the validation, and I thought it was empowering, and I thought it

06:38:33.020 was everything that, you know, adult, successful woman in that realm could achieve, and all that

06:38:40.000 it really did was it just made my wounds that I had pre-existing bigger, and it kind of trickled

06:38:46.240 into every other aspect of my life, and that's not to say that's the same for everyone.

06:38:49.800 Obviously not.

06:38:52.680 But now, like, I am more modest, and I have learned from the trauma that I have allowed

06:38:59.120 myself to be a part of, because the way I did not respect myself, men didn't respect me.

06:39:04.160 A man is only going to respect you as much as you respect you.

06:39:07.260 And if it's a higher standard than they want to provide, the trash takes itself out, and

06:39:12.620 it's kind of not something you have to deal with, and I feel like because of my past, I

06:39:17.140 haven't upheld myself.

06:39:18.540 I haven't upheld and respected my boundaries.

06:39:20.880 I didn't have boundaries for a very long time, and I just think that it's so important, and

06:39:25.960 even if you're in the industry, I think it's important to have boundaries and to know what

06:39:28.940 that looks like for you, and that the reason why you may be doing things, whether that be

06:39:35.740 sex work, whether that be the P word, whether that be anything, I think that there's a deeper

06:39:43.640 meaning behind why you feel like that is the only thing you can bring to the table, and

06:39:47.160 I believe that there's more that you can contribute to society, because at one point, that's not

06:39:52.220 what I believed.

06:39:53.180 At one point, I thought that I'm pretty, and I can get what I want, and that's not the way

06:39:56.560 the world works, and the world will chew you up and spit you out, and then you're going

06:40:00.800 to have to look at yourself one day and pick up the pieces, and truly, beauty is a depreciating

06:40:06.540 asset, and you're not going to be young and beautiful for as long as you think you are,

06:40:10.940 and one day you will have to start over, and there will be a gap in your resume, and you

06:40:15.660 will have to explain that, and it's just, I feel so deeply for women that go through,

06:40:21.080 you know, OnlyFans and do porn and stuff like that, because there are better ways to be

06:40:26.320 self-expressive, and to have companionship, and to have that type of connection, and I

06:40:30.300 just, I just think it takes courage to see that and acknowledge that, and it takes courage

06:40:36.800 to move forward and move past that.

06:40:39.040 What was your catalyst for changing?

06:40:42.000 Being so broken and knowing that I caused it.

06:40:45.560 Yes, someone else hurt me, cheated on me, physically abused me, but it was ultimately because I didn't

06:40:50.460 respect my own boundaries for the sake of love or attention or a relationship.

06:40:55.080 That's why I hurt myself.

06:40:56.980 Is this the feeder guy?

06:40:58.620 This is my last two relationships, but essentially, it's because my lack of my own self-respect

06:41:04.880 allowed these things to happen.

06:41:07.300 That's all.

06:41:08.260 I respect your opinion, and I respect where you're coming from and your experiences.

06:41:12.500 I would counter that and say, yeah, I mean, I worked in corporate, so I had a normal job.

06:41:18.300 I did that.

06:41:19.000 I did the whole thing.

06:41:19.740 I got a pre-med degree.

06:41:20.680 I worked in tech.

06:41:21.620 I did that life, and ultimately, like, corporate America is the biggest pimps out there, so

06:41:27.400 I am my own CEO.

06:41:30.760 I have my own S-Corp.

06:41:31.860 I run my own business every day, and just because morally it doesn't align with what

06:41:36.780 you believe in, which is totally okay, that doesn't mean that my business is any less,

06:41:40.960 like, than what you do for a living.

06:41:43.820 No, no, absolutely, and I'm not trying to sit here saying that I'm better than you by

06:41:47.040 any means, or saying that because, you know, morally it goes against-

06:41:51.120 You have an S-Corp?

06:41:53.760 Yeah.

06:41:55.040 For your OnlyPans?

06:41:57.160 Why not just in the LLC?

06:41:59.780 Tax brackets.

06:42:01.480 Oh, okay.

06:42:02.820 But my point is, is that-

06:42:04.920 Wait, couldn't you just be in the LLC and elect to get taxed as an S-Corp?

06:42:08.600 We're not good.

06:42:10.680 Okay, all right, I know, I know.

06:42:12.180 Why does it have to do with you?

06:42:12.820 I'm just not true.

06:42:14.300 I don't care.

06:42:14.860 I'm just saying, it's a business at the end of the day, like, I know, I don't even like

06:42:18.480 the bring that to the table type of conversation.

06:42:20.840 Yeah, no, but I understand for the sake of business.

06:42:23.040 Wait, chat, hold on, let me go into some fucking CPA shit.

06:42:26.480 Chat, can't you be an LLC and elect to be taxed as an S-Corp?

06:42:32.860 Like, as if you were- I could be wrong, I don't know.

06:42:36.040 Okay, anyways.

06:42:38.600 Am I right, chat?

06:42:39.560 What was the last thing we were saying?

06:42:40.820 You can be in the LLC and just elect, and that would- you wouldn't have to, like, do

06:42:46.440 hours or what- what's it called?

06:42:49.960 I don't know.

06:42:50.560 Okay, sorry, derailing.

06:42:51.720 Sorry, sorry.

06:42:52.100 Well, I just filed the paperwork, so I don't know.

06:42:54.140 It's okay.

06:42:54.620 A couple weeks ago.

06:42:55.380 All I'm saying is that you're beautiful and you're smart, clearly.

06:42:59.520 I do plan to give back, though, and that's, like, part of, like, what my plan is.

06:43:03.660 So you asked earlier, I think, I don't know which one of you did, but, like, do you

06:43:07.020 have an exit plan?

06:43:07.980 I mean, I plan to do this as long as it still makes me happy and I wake up every day and

06:43:11.780 I'm not, like, miserable.

06:43:13.440 I know it does have mental effects on a lot of people, but, like, me personally, I don't

06:43:17.100 feel that way.

06:43:17.600 Like, I can genuinely say, like, I don't feel that way.

06:43:19.580 I actually felt way more stressed and unhappy every day waking up reporting to people that

06:43:26.420 didn't respect me.

06:43:27.320 You have a very light, like, effervescent energy.

06:43:30.380 I can tell you're, like, a genuine happy person.

06:43:32.680 And not the Antichrist.

06:43:33.780 Definitely the Antichrist.

06:43:35.240 Definitely not.

06:43:36.080 Sorry, what?

06:43:36.740 No, she's...

06:43:37.880 But, um...

06:43:38.520 W.

06:43:39.140 Yeah, no, I, like, completely agree, like, from your perspective.

06:43:42.120 I know a lot of people always try to, like, talk me out of what I do and, like, not saying

06:43:45.700 you're trying to talk me out of it, but just saying your perspective and that's why we're

06:43:48.740 here, you know?

06:43:49.360 Like, I respect everyone's opinions.

06:43:50.940 I just don't agree.

06:43:51.820 Yeah, and you totally don't have to agree.

06:43:54.240 I just...

06:43:54.560 Agree to disagree.

06:43:55.400 I just see that there's so much more potential in you and all of these women.

06:44:00.920 Joey donated $100.

06:44:03.680 Ladies, may I sell you a Hermes purse?

06:44:06.660 It was worn by 30 other women in countless photos all around the world.

06:44:11.020 Do you know what Hermes is?

06:44:11.480 It's also 35 years old and full of other people's stuff.

06:44:15.500 Can I get full price?

06:44:17.020 Is it a Birkin or a Kelly?

06:44:18.420 Yeah.

06:44:19.620 Oh, shit.

06:44:20.320 Yo, Joey, thank you, man.

06:44:21.500 I appreciate the analogy.

06:44:22.320 You guys know Hermes?

06:44:23.980 Yeah.

06:44:26.000 Mythology?

06:44:31.020 Word.

06:44:33.680 Okay.

06:44:34.760 Where were we?

06:44:35.500 Were we trying to convert her out of being an OF?

06:44:38.160 No, I'm not trying to convert anyone.

06:44:40.740 I don't even think she was trying to convert me.

06:44:41.160 She was just saying where she came from and her evolution from, like, posting bikini pics

06:44:46.120 and more scandalous photos to where she's at now.

06:44:48.280 Okay.

06:44:48.380 And I think that's respectable.

06:44:49.060 I respect that because you are very set, and I respect you for that, on what you want

06:44:53.260 in your traditional lifestyle.

06:44:54.460 Like, I want that, too, but, like, not right now.

06:44:56.380 No, absolutely.

06:44:57.040 And I'm not looking for it.

06:44:57.660 I just fear the day that you wake up and you're like, I have this gap in my life, this

06:45:04.200 time in my life that I can't get back.

06:45:06.360 And it's like you could have been using this time to be working on other, in my opinion,

06:45:11.800 more beneficial things in your life.

06:45:14.680 And that's not to say that what you're doing won't be successful or won't have longevity.

06:45:19.200 I just worry about the morality, your characteristics, and what you can bring to just society generally.

06:45:26.180 Not that what you're doing is inherently evil or horrible.

06:45:29.540 Or the Antichrist.

06:45:30.460 Or the Antichrist, by any means.

06:45:32.220 But I just think that people that do sex work can find better outlets and better ways to

06:45:37.940 contribute to society as an online audience.

06:45:39.440 I agree with that.

06:45:40.440 Yeah.

06:45:40.860 But it's not to demonize anyone.

06:45:41.780 I mean, I'm going to use my capital to do positive things.

06:45:45.420 Yeah.

06:45:45.640 I do positive things a lot.

06:45:46.640 I just don't talk about it.

06:45:47.720 You've never sent in a super chat to the Whatever channel.

06:45:49.940 That would be a positive first step.

06:45:52.140 No.

06:45:52.860 Maybe next year.

06:45:53.440 I should start taxing.

06:45:54.940 Like, okay, you gotta, if you come on the Whatever podcast, you gotta do a $100 TTS every show.

06:46:00.320 But, okay, Sierra, you, in your pre-show notes, you said there's a crazy story with-

06:46:06.420 It's Kira.

06:46:07.040 Oh, shit.

06:46:07.480 My bad.

06:46:07.820 It's Kira.

06:46:09.440 Sierra.

06:46:10.400 No, it's an Irish story.

06:46:11.140 You got stood up.

06:46:12.380 You got stood up.

06:46:13.220 Oh, my God.

06:46:13.580 Yeah.

06:46:13.960 What happened?

06:46:15.080 Okay.

06:46:15.800 I met this guy at, um, Wildcat.

06:46:19.840 Um, he came up to me.

06:46:21.580 Are you okay?

06:46:22.600 I'm good.

06:46:23.160 Have you ever, like, drank water and it just, like, hits the back of your throat?

06:46:25.980 I was like, oh, yeah.

06:46:27.080 Bro, that was about to be really embarrassing, but I fucking rested.

06:46:30.320 Deep-throated that bitch.

06:46:31.480 You've never had that where you, like, throw it back and you, like, nearly fucking die?

06:46:34.760 Yeah, deep-throat.

06:46:35.580 Where you throw it back and you almost die?

06:46:37.220 It goes in the wrong way.

06:46:37.840 That sounded crazy.

06:46:38.900 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

06:46:40.140 This is a, this is, this is a family-friendly show.

06:46:43.300 It's so nice.

06:46:44.140 Get your, get your head out of the gutter.

06:46:46.060 You got that gluck, gluck, gluck.

06:46:46.860 Get out of the gutter.

06:46:47.940 Okay, go ahead.

06:46:48.620 You got stood up.

06:46:49.680 This guy came up to me at Wildcat and was like, you're so pretty, like, I want to, like,

06:46:56.300 hang out with you, all this stuff.

06:46:57.660 Got his contact information.

06:47:00.100 And then, like, basically leading up to the date, he was, like, saying, like, how excited

06:47:04.600 he was and whatever.

06:47:05.500 And I was like, okay, cool.

06:47:06.280 Like, I'm excited, too.

06:47:07.120 We've hung out a few times before, but just, like, not, like, a date setting.

06:47:11.400 Um, and then we were going to go see a movie, and then I was like, okay, pick me up at,

06:47:17.420 like, 7, because the movie was at 7.30, and then he just never ended up picking me up,

06:47:21.300 and I haven't heard from him since.

06:47:22.980 Aw, damn.

06:47:24.040 So, I'm like.

06:47:24.460 Was this recently?

06:47:25.140 Yeah.

06:47:26.680 He didn't even text you?

06:47:27.760 What's his name?

06:47:28.620 No.

06:47:29.200 He should have been the one that was, like, I'm picking you up at 7.

06:47:32.060 See, like, that's where you need, like.

06:47:33.620 Well, because we were both, like, kind of talking about it, though.

06:47:36.000 I don't know.

06:47:36.920 It was just weird.

06:47:37.740 Like, it was just, it was just weird how, like, the whole week leading up to it, he was, like,

06:47:41.140 oh, my God, like, can't wait, and then, like, he didn't show up, and I was like, did something

06:47:44.320 happen?

06:47:45.800 You still haven't talked to him?

06:47:46.940 No.

06:47:48.580 Wait, are you guys housemates?

06:47:49.940 Roommates?

06:47:50.360 We used to.

06:47:51.060 We used to.

06:47:51.440 I left.

06:47:52.180 Me and Emmy are housemates.

06:47:54.700 But I wanted to add that he texted her, like, an hour before.

06:47:57.340 Yeah, like, literally.

06:47:58.420 So, it's not like he ghosted her.

06:47:59.120 Yeah, no, like, he was texting me up until I'm on my way.

06:48:01.820 Yeah.

06:48:02.200 And then nothing.

06:48:03.080 And then that was it.

06:48:03.880 And you haven't heard from him?

06:48:04.780 No.

06:48:05.480 Did you send him a message, like, hey, what happened?

06:48:07.540 I said, well, the last message I sent to him was, oh, I was like,

06:48:11.140 you know, like, the movie's at 7.30, right?

06:48:13.880 At 7.

06:48:14.520 That's cold.

06:48:15.520 Yeah, at, like, 7 o'clock.

06:48:17.400 So, like, what was that?

06:48:18.680 Like, I would have rather him just be like, hey, I don't want to go on this date with you

06:48:21.860 anymore, because I'm like, okay, that's fine.

06:48:23.000 I have no, like, expectations from you.

06:48:25.240 I was just excited to go see the Bob Marley movie.

06:48:28.260 Didn't happen.

06:48:29.480 It was super, I don't know.

06:48:31.060 And then, like, I weirdly felt embarrassed about it, but now I'm like, okay, it's not me.

06:48:35.240 It's just weird of him.

06:48:36.260 It's not you.

06:48:37.980 It's fucked up, man.

06:48:39.480 I know.

06:48:39.960 It's fucked up.

06:48:41.140 It's fucked up.

06:48:42.480 Thanks, Kevin.

06:48:43.140 I'm just kidding.

06:48:43.840 That's fine.

06:48:45.340 We can call him Kevin.

06:48:46.980 Do you two have any things that you want to hit on?

06:48:50.180 Dating, relationship topics, you guys didn't get the opportunity to talk too much, anything

06:48:54.340 from you?

06:48:55.560 Home slot?

06:48:56.660 I don't know.

06:48:57.100 Nothing that comes to mind, like, straight.

06:48:59.540 Yeah?

06:49:00.880 I feel like it just, like, it flows.

06:49:03.360 It flows?

06:49:03.940 Yeah.

06:49:04.260 It's kind of like, I want to know everybody's opinion on that story, though.

06:49:07.520 Like, what do you think it was?

06:49:09.240 Oh, what did we...

06:49:10.160 Like, what do you think happened?

06:49:11.440 Like, how long ago was this?

06:49:12.980 Joey donated 100 dollars.

06:49:14.020 Like, literally, like, a couple days ago.

06:49:15.680 I love this podcast.

06:49:17.540 It reminds me of why I won't survive on the dating scene.

06:49:21.140 Don't say that.

06:49:21.520 In 38 days, I marry a woman where I was her first mate.

06:49:25.900 Three carrots went on her finger.

06:49:28.300 Girls, smarten up.

06:49:30.280 King of DIY.

06:49:32.260 King of do-it-yourself?

06:49:34.500 You got a YouTube channel or something?

06:49:36.520 Doing some household projects?

06:49:38.540 Three carrots.

06:49:39.180 Yo, Joey.

06:49:39.700 The chat said he died.

06:49:40.280 Thank you very much.

06:49:40.900 Hopefully not, but...

06:49:41.660 For your...

06:49:42.340 For your TTS man.

06:49:45.400 Congrats on your wedding.

06:49:46.600 You said in 38 days.

06:49:47.800 I hope it goes well, and...

06:49:49.560 But, yeah, dude, the dating scene right now is kind of brutal, so congrats on your...

06:49:54.200 That thing.

06:49:56.300 Wait, you were saying what...

06:49:57.600 What was...

06:49:58.200 What...

06:49:58.520 Yeah, what do you think happened to him?

06:50:00.740 To him.

06:50:01.360 Wait, so give us a little backstory.

06:50:02.960 You guys...

06:50:03.380 His booty call.

06:50:03.560 Had you guys hooked up?

06:50:04.940 Had you guys, like, hooked up previously?

06:50:06.940 This was, like, a casual hookup?

06:50:08.440 Yeah, we've hooked up before, yeah.

06:50:11.100 Had you ever...

06:50:11.900 Like, the whole entire time, he was like, I, like, want to take you out, like, on a date,

06:50:15.600 like, da-da-da, like, all this stuff.

06:50:17.320 And I was like, okay, cool, like, whatever.

06:50:19.360 I'm down.

06:50:20.520 And then, yeah.

06:50:21.780 Up, like, I'm saying, like, up until, like, an hour before we're supposed to go on this

06:50:25.340 date, nothing.

06:50:26.740 Something better came up.

06:50:28.020 It's just...

06:50:28.580 He went to a women's sporting game.

06:50:30.840 Women's sporting game.

06:50:32.060 He went to a WNBA game.

06:50:34.160 Good for him.

06:50:35.820 Yeah.

06:50:36.680 Well, it's...

06:50:37.440 It's better known now.

06:50:39.300 Yeah.

06:50:39.660 Well, I mean, yeah.

06:50:40.440 I mean, it's not like I, like...

06:50:41.740 You can open up more, Nick.

06:50:42.660 I was just, like, wasn't expecting, like, much from anything, but it would have been, like,

06:50:45.400 I don't know.

06:50:46.140 You're like...

06:50:46.880 Like I said, I'm not looking for a relationship right now, but, you know.

06:50:50.300 Definitely wrong of him to have sort of essentially set up this plan with you.

06:50:57.040 Right.

06:50:57.240 And to not communicate with you at all.

06:50:59.040 He should have...

06:51:00.040 Even if he didn't want to go, he could have just said, hey, can we reschedule?

06:51:04.120 Or, eh.

06:51:04.700 I mean, at least, like, a...

06:51:07.800 Even though...

06:51:08.420 Yeah.

06:51:08.600 He should have at least told you.

06:51:09.820 Yeah.

06:51:10.180 Because then you're probably waiting around.

06:51:11.480 What's going on?

06:51:12.040 Well, the thing is, like, I got...

06:51:13.040 I, like, got home from work.

06:51:14.660 I got ready.

06:51:15.780 I put all this time in.

06:51:17.600 Yeah.

06:51:17.720 And then up and, like, literally texting me while I'm getting ready.

06:51:20.940 And then, like, never shows up.

06:51:22.380 See, the everyday shower.

06:51:22.660 She also canceled another date for this.

06:51:24.820 Yeah, I had another date for him.

06:51:26.360 Well, hold on now.

06:51:27.200 That's true.

06:51:27.820 I forgot about that part.

06:51:29.480 Wait.

06:51:29.800 Triggered Brian.

06:51:30.720 Hold on now.

06:51:31.700 I don't feel so bad all of a sudden.

06:51:34.260 Oh, no, no.

06:51:35.820 You canceled.

06:51:36.780 So, you had a date planned.

06:51:37.780 Well, I rescheduled the other date.

06:51:39.980 Because I wanted...

06:51:40.540 I don't think that's why he's upset.

06:51:41.740 Wait, hold on.

06:51:42.200 So, you rescheduled...

06:51:43.420 I should have said that.

06:51:44.020 So, when did you have the other date planned?

06:51:47.420 The...

06:51:47.900 The...

06:51:48.620 Wait.

06:51:49.160 So, was this, like, a spontaneous, hey, babe, I want to take you to a movie?

06:51:53.220 It was, like, that day that he wanted to do the movie?

06:51:55.320 No.

06:51:55.380 Like, we...

06:51:55.880 He texted me on Sunday.

06:51:58.340 And we were, like, oh, we, like, we should go to a movie.

06:52:00.880 Or I mentioned, basically...

06:52:02.980 So, on last...

06:52:04.380 Yeah, last Sunday?

06:52:05.720 I think.

06:52:06.420 I don't remember.

06:52:08.460 We were texting.

06:52:09.460 And I was, like, oh, like, I'm kind of, like...

06:52:11.440 I want to have, like, a chill weekend.

06:52:13.020 Like, I kind of want to go to a movie and see, like, the Bob Marley movie.

06:52:16.440 And he was, like, yeah, I want to see that, too.

06:52:18.540 Like, let me take you on a date.

06:52:19.720 That'll be, like, our first date.

06:52:21.900 And I was, like, okay.

06:52:23.600 And then...

06:52:24.380 But you already had another date planned for that date.

06:52:29.280 Yes.

06:52:30.600 Previously pre-planned.

06:52:31.920 Yeah.

06:52:32.740 With a different dude.

06:52:34.520 Yes.

06:52:35.100 And you canceled...

06:52:36.580 How much notice did you give the dude?

06:52:37.460 Well, I didn't cancel.

06:52:38.360 I...

06:52:38.600 Oh, as soon as, like...

06:52:39.860 You rescheduled the date?

06:52:40.900 I rescheduled the date, yes.

06:52:42.440 Damn.

06:52:43.060 That's exactly the situation I never had in.

06:52:45.100 Well, like I said, I am dating.

06:52:46.560 Like, I am out.

06:52:47.460 Like, I'm dating people.

06:52:49.880 Okay.

06:52:51.000 But I canceled or rescheduled that date, like, right then.

06:52:56.120 Like, I didn't make him wait forever.

06:52:57.760 I don't feel as bad.

06:52:58.700 The guy was still wrong for just full-on ghosting you and not telling you, hey, I'm not going to pick you up.

06:53:07.200 I'm just surprised there was no subs...

06:53:09.940 I mean, it sounds like he's just straight-up ghosting you now, though.

06:53:12.120 Well, yeah.

06:53:12.680 It wasn't like there was an emergency, or...

06:53:14.980 Mm-mm.

06:53:15.440 Is he alive?

06:53:16.780 I would assume so.

06:53:17.720 Okay, he's ghosting you, then.

06:53:18.760 He is alive.

06:53:19.740 We actually saw his snap maps.

06:53:21.040 Ooh, that's awkward.

06:53:21.960 We know he's up in the lives.

06:53:25.300 Shout-out to you.

06:53:26.220 Thank you.

06:53:26.400 Dick move on his part.

06:53:27.920 A little less bad, though, because...

06:53:30.020 Because I rescheduled my other date.

06:53:31.200 You were dating multiple guys at the same time, so don't feel a whole bunch of pity.

06:53:36.520 But what he did was wrong.

06:53:38.700 What he did was wrong.

06:53:40.620 Definitely, that's a terrible position.

06:53:43.420 Are you even happy with that situation where you're, like, dating multiple people?

06:53:47.380 Well, it's not like I'm dating, like, a million men.

06:53:49.440 And I'm just, like, going out on dates.

06:53:51.520 Like, people ask me out on a date, and I'm going to go on it and see, like, where things go.

06:53:56.020 But don't you, like, haven't...

06:53:57.260 I'm just meeting people.

06:53:57.540 But aren't there, like...

06:53:58.320 Don't you meet a guy, and you just...

06:54:00.660 There's one guy you really like, and you want to, like, really pursue that one guy?

06:54:06.480 If she likes him.

06:54:07.280 Yeah, if I like them, sure.

06:54:09.240 But will you still be dating other men while you're...

06:54:11.560 No.

06:54:12.200 Like, if I...

06:54:12.760 If I want to...

06:54:13.400 So you don't even really...

06:54:14.180 You're sleeping with men you don't even really like that much.

06:54:17.920 Okay.

06:54:18.600 Shouldn't you at least like the guy if you're going to sleep with him?

06:54:21.500 Well, I'm not saying that I don't like the men that I, like, sleep with.

06:54:23.860 What?

06:54:24.320 No, this is it.

06:54:25.080 You just want to fuck the dude?

06:54:26.080 What?

06:54:26.340 You don't have that feeling for someone.

06:54:28.080 She wants to spite...

06:54:28.400 Are you a spite fucker?

06:54:30.140 Like, I fucking...

06:54:31.520 I hate this guy so much, I'm going to fuck him.

06:54:34.000 You know what I mean?

06:54:34.540 Yeah, where did that come from?

06:54:36.080 Well, okay.

06:54:36.600 Like I said, I'm not looking for a relationship right now.

06:54:39.780 I am, like, in the dating pool.

06:54:42.040 Like, the dating scene, I would like to meet people.

06:54:43.800 And if I meet a guy that I end up really liking, then yeah, I'm going to stick to that one guy.

06:54:48.940 But I haven't really found that yet.

06:54:50.780 But I can't really gauge that off of one date.

06:54:54.480 Like, so the guy that I reschedule, we already had a date before.

06:54:58.820 So then this would have been our second date.

06:55:00.920 I don't know if I just like crazy women.

06:55:03.660 I don't think they're crazy, though.

06:55:05.040 I just want...

06:55:06.060 Here's the thing.

06:55:07.940 For me, if I'm dating a girl, like, I don't want her to want other guys.

06:55:14.200 Like, I have to be the only guy in the picture.

06:55:17.440 If we go on a first date, you want a second date, all the other guys has to be a wrap.

06:55:22.820 Preferably, there's just no guys.

06:55:24.420 I agree.

06:55:24.860 Preferably, there's just no guys at all in the picture when we even first meet.

06:55:28.960 I agree.

06:55:29.660 It's rare, though.

06:55:30.700 Yeah.

06:55:31.140 And you were saying something about your situation.

06:55:33.340 You're like, seeing this one guy, but there's kind of...

06:55:36.320 You're dating around, kind of.

06:55:37.800 Yeah.

06:55:38.480 And by the way, to preface, dating doesn't mean like I'm taking home all these people and sleeping with them.

06:55:43.020 Maybe not.

06:55:43.780 Maybe not.

06:55:44.360 Because I'm not.

06:55:45.340 Maybe not.

06:55:46.240 But like, for example, if I was like...

06:55:47.600 If I was dating any of you, like that...

06:55:50.420 Ugh.

06:55:51.180 Ugh.

06:55:52.700 Yikes.

06:55:53.260 Yikes.

06:55:54.000 Yeah.

06:55:54.400 Please, God.

06:55:55.620 He demands...

06:55:56.500 Take it out of my brain.

06:55:56.980 Take it out of my brain.

06:55:57.080 Take it out of my brain.

06:55:57.760 Sorry.

06:55:58.780 Bro, you were like mad trying to flirt with me back there.

06:56:01.820 Stop.

06:56:02.420 Chill out.

06:56:03.420 Bro, you were like...

06:56:04.600 It's a self-project...

06:56:06.080 Yo, you've been like eye-fucking the shit out of me the entire show.

06:56:09.480 Chill the fuck out, bro.

06:56:10.180 I think you should just have like a fight club.

06:56:12.700 Or whatever fight club and just...

06:56:14.160 Are you okay?

06:56:15.100 Bro, you want to fuck me?

06:56:16.460 Chill out, dude.

06:56:17.220 What the fuck?

06:56:18.240 Are you okay?

06:56:18.840 I'm not about it.

06:56:19.500 Like, I mean like...

06:56:20.440 I'd literally rather like...

06:56:21.860 Like, I'm not...

06:56:22.960 D-word on live.

06:56:24.360 You want to...

06:56:25.520 Say one thing you guys like about each other.

06:56:29.220 Oh, yeah, bro.

06:56:30.000 That's a...

06:56:30.600 You guys like about each other.

06:56:32.280 Cheers.

06:56:32.920 I don't think he cares what I say.

06:56:34.760 Like, literally, right now.

06:56:36.880 What?

06:56:37.320 You want that?

06:56:38.000 Wait, Taylor said a good point.

06:56:39.160 Now say something that you like about each other.

06:56:41.720 Mmm.

06:56:42.700 One thing that you like about her.

06:56:44.260 One thing you like about him.

06:56:45.620 Do it.

06:56:46.020 Good point, Taylor Finkel.

06:56:47.460 To each other, yeah.

06:56:48.060 Thank you, Taylor Finkel.

06:56:48.860 Let's just talk to you.

06:56:49.400 My plumber husband told me.

06:56:50.780 That's what me and my plumber husband do.

06:56:52.300 Bring it full circle.

06:56:53.180 So what I like about him?

06:56:54.820 Yeah.

06:56:55.120 Yes.

06:56:55.580 One thing.

06:56:56.740 Um...

06:56:57.100 I think he's smarter than he actually is perceiving himself to be.

06:57:02.320 That's really nice of her.

06:57:04.700 He's smarter than he perceives himself to be?

06:57:08.720 Or maybe he'll get there at one point.

06:57:10.120 Like, you think that I think I'm, like, stupid?

06:57:13.840 No, I think you're very smart, but I don't think you're at the point that you should be

06:57:18.540 at yet.

06:57:20.860 That's nice.

06:57:22.140 That's nice.

06:57:23.400 That's the most backhanded compliment I've ever heard.

06:57:25.580 I don't think I'm at that point either.

06:57:27.260 You could do better.

06:57:27.740 I don't think I'm at that point either.

06:57:29.180 She's saying he has potential.

06:57:29.820 She's rooting for you.

06:57:31.580 Now tell her.

06:57:32.080 I need to say something nice to her.

06:57:33.280 Yeah, you gotta say something.

06:57:33.980 One thing.

06:57:34.600 Your turn.

06:57:35.320 And not something...

06:57:36.320 Yeah, don't do, like, a backhanded-ass compliment or something like that.

06:57:39.220 It's okay if you don't.

06:57:40.980 I can take it.

06:57:42.080 I'm a big girl.

06:57:44.380 I'm proud of you that I think you're sober.

06:57:50.740 You think?

06:57:51.840 I think.

06:57:52.260 She's sober.

06:57:53.020 I don't know.

06:57:53.300 You seemed a little...

06:57:55.040 At the beginning of the show, a little, you know...

06:57:58.220 Okay.

06:57:58.980 You know what I mean?

06:58:01.360 Yeah.

06:58:02.600 Was that good?

06:58:03.620 Was that...

06:58:04.100 No.

06:58:04.700 Was that good?

06:58:05.380 It was okay.

06:58:06.000 I feel like you could have done a lot better.

06:58:08.360 I think you can do a lot better.

06:58:09.720 Hi, guys.

06:58:10.500 I, like, I honestly, I really do, like, promote sobriety and, like, addiction, like, all of

06:58:16.900 that because I've dealt with addiction.

06:58:18.700 I've dealt with my family's addiction, everything.

06:58:21.060 So, I'm sober.

06:58:23.800 I have my key tag if you want to see it, like...

06:58:27.760 A few more things before we wrap up.

06:58:29.840 And just to finish on that point.

06:58:31.380 I will say that, at least when it comes to dating, I want immediate, near immediate...

06:58:39.160 How do I normally frame this?

06:58:41.200 I want...

06:58:43.240 I'm blanking.

06:58:44.820 Sorry.

06:58:45.020 It's been a long fucking podcast.

06:58:46.460 Almost at seven hours.

06:58:47.540 Cutting it off.

06:58:48.140 Everyone yell at their date.

06:58:49.080 That's why people think I'm, like, fucked up.

06:58:51.320 Like, I've been here for six hours.

06:58:52.780 Oh, I want...

06:58:53.380 I'm tired.

06:58:54.380 I want exclusive...

06:58:55.720 I want...

06:58:56.380 Not exclusive.

06:58:58.140 I want immediate...

06:59:00.120 Loyalty?

06:59:00.600 I'm tired.

06:59:02.440 What's that, Nick?

06:59:03.040 I'm not there, though.

06:59:04.000 Yes.

06:59:04.440 Thank you, Nick.

06:59:05.060 Thank you.

06:59:06.120 I want undivided romantic and sexual attention immediately.

06:59:11.900 If your romantic attention is divided, in other words, you're dating other men, I lose

06:59:17.920 interest.

06:59:18.280 Is that why you're still single?

06:59:19.460 Does that go both ways, though?

06:59:20.780 Like, are you willing to do the same?

06:59:22.180 Are you willing to do the same?

06:59:22.720 What do you mean?

06:59:23.260 Yeah.

06:59:24.020 Okay.

06:59:24.720 Great.

06:59:25.880 Yeah.

06:59:26.440 Work.

06:59:27.360 Perfect.

06:59:28.800 Are you still single, Brian?

06:59:30.160 If I...

06:59:32.460 Okay.

06:59:32.740 If I was in a relationship, I wouldn't disclose it on the podcast.

06:59:36.300 That's all I'm going to say.

06:59:37.000 I just figured I'd ask again.

06:59:38.180 So, wait.

06:59:39.420 Oh, Nick.

06:59:39.920 Let's pull up some of the tabs.

06:59:41.200 Actually, wait.

06:59:41.920 Chats.

06:59:42.640 Wait.

06:59:42.860 No.

06:59:43.120 Hold on.

06:59:43.620 Guys, go to Twitch.

06:59:44.340 If you're watching on YouTube, guys, please go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:59:49.000 Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

06:59:52.120 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:59:54.020 Just open up another tab.

06:59:55.220 Drop us a follow.

06:59:55.820 Drop us a prime sub.

06:59:56.440 If you're watching over there on Twitch, drop us a follow.

06:59:59.740 Drop us a prime sub.

07:00:00.580 Oh, we just hit the seven hour mark.

07:00:01.900 Okay.

07:00:02.060 We're going to definitely wrap up soon.

07:00:04.620 Promise.

07:00:05.180 Promise here.

07:00:05.700 Five minutes.

07:00:06.500 Ten minutes.

07:00:07.000 What?

07:00:08.100 Guys.

07:00:08.500 That's why they think I'm off drugs.

07:00:10.340 I've been sitting here for six hours.

07:00:12.520 No caffeine.

07:00:13.340 Nothing.

07:00:13.500 I got about 4 a.m.

07:00:14.580 this morning.

07:00:15.440 My flight was at 7 a.m.

07:00:17.340 Yeah, literally.

07:00:18.180 I have jet lag.

07:00:19.500 Like, Orlando.

07:00:20.220 Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.

07:00:21.940 Drop us a follow if you're on Twitch.

07:00:23.320 Just give us a little follow in the chat.

07:00:25.120 No food.

07:00:26.220 Drop us a prime.

07:00:27.400 Yo, Slayer, thank you for the prime.

07:00:29.700 I'm just a little.

07:00:31.440 Jeremy, thank you for the follow.

07:00:32.900 No caffeine.

07:00:33.140 Thank you all for all the follows, guys.

07:00:35.060 Oh, okay.

07:00:35.640 You can.

07:00:35.980 Oh.

07:00:37.440 Also, we need to pull up these chats here.

07:00:41.480 EOG Demise.

07:00:42.760 Ladies, 3-0-4 was short in Curly's preference.

07:00:45.660 What?

07:00:45.840 I love how they said ladies slash 3-0-4.

07:00:49.640 Is 3-0-4 the serial code?

07:00:52.260 Is that the serial code?

07:00:52.840 Yeah, definitely.

07:00:53.460 Definitely the error code.

07:00:55.480 Short and Curly's preference.

07:00:57.480 Is this, like, grooming down there?

07:00:59.980 Is that what this is about?

07:01:01.140 That's what I'm assuming, yeah.

07:01:02.580 So is this, he's asking your preference in men?

07:01:04.920 Our preference in men, yeah.

07:01:07.760 Do you guys have a preference on that front?

07:01:09.820 I don't have a preference.

07:01:10.980 No.

07:01:11.320 I'm grown.

07:01:13.640 No preference.

07:01:13.960 Don't care?

07:01:14.560 No.

07:01:14.780 You want the jungle?

07:01:16.600 I wouldn't be happy with the jungle.

07:01:19.060 Okay.

07:01:20.240 Thank you.

07:01:20.960 Deep diving that jungle.

07:01:22.860 Maybe, like...

07:01:23.720 Into the mic?

07:01:24.760 Into the mic?

07:01:26.600 Not the jungle, but...

07:01:27.940 Not the jungle.

07:01:28.260 Not the jungle.

07:01:29.680 Trimmed.

07:01:29.960 Why not?

07:01:30.420 Explore the wilderness.

07:01:31.700 I would say trimmed.

07:01:32.620 It don't matter to me.

07:01:36.620 Hey.

07:01:37.520 I do not like it when a guy is bald.

07:01:40.880 I like him to be a man and have hair.

07:01:43.080 Be a man and have hair.

07:01:44.560 Okay.

07:01:44.980 Yeah, I don't have a preference.

07:01:46.240 No preference.

07:01:47.760 Ditto with what she said.

07:01:49.220 All right.

07:01:49.660 EOG.

07:01:50.120 Thank you, man.

07:01:50.620 Tommy.

07:01:51.240 Emo girl is so...

07:01:52.500 Actually, let me have you read it.

07:01:54.260 Go ahead.

07:01:55.040 Oh, sorry.

07:01:56.140 Go ahead.

07:01:56.720 Read it.

07:01:57.100 Oh, me?

07:01:57.520 Yeah.

07:01:58.000 Emo girl is so brain that she made the other girl look like Isaac Newton.

07:02:01.380 Who's the other girl?

07:02:02.600 I'm assuming.

07:02:03.420 Her.

07:02:03.680 I'm the only other, yeah.

07:02:04.940 Isaac Newton.

07:02:05.260 Thank you, but that's kind of rude to her.

07:02:08.820 No, you're good.

07:02:09.920 W. Isaac Newton.

07:02:11.280 Yeah.

07:02:11.700 He's a very smart man.

07:02:13.020 Is this Argentinian?

07:02:14.260 I think it's the Argentinian currency, maybe?

07:02:16.660 Thank you, Tommy, for the 500.

07:02:18.720 Maybe not.

07:02:19.480 Thank you, man.

07:02:19.840 Appreciate it.

07:02:20.920 Nick, can you pull up the first thing that we were going to react to?

07:02:25.000 Oh, guys.

07:02:25.500 Okay.

07:02:25.780 This is what you guys might be very curious because I know you guys, you know, given your

07:02:31.100 admissions during the show, I'm sure you're all dying to know what I'm looking for.

07:02:35.940 In a woman.

07:02:36.880 This is, I think, what I'm looking for.

07:02:38.480 Is this the bowing video?

07:02:40.140 Yeah.

07:02:41.240 All right.

07:02:41.740 Go ahead, Nick.

07:02:43.620 Boom.

07:02:44.120 Did you see the bow?

07:02:45.080 Did you guys see the bow?

07:02:46.320 Huge.

07:02:48.480 Get the rocks.

07:02:49.740 Oh, great.

07:02:50.220 Okay.

07:02:51.560 We'll read that in a sec.

07:02:52.680 The one that had a labia place to get the rocks.

07:02:54.560 Question for all.

07:02:55.080 Would you date a man who checked out the boxes but was adamantly vegan just in aversion

07:02:59.200 toward violence to animals in any fashion?

07:03:01.240 We'll get to that in a sec, Crocs.

07:03:03.380 Here's the video.

07:03:04.300 This is great.

07:03:05.260 Let's play it one more time here in just a sec.

07:03:11.680 Yo, Slayer GTX.

07:03:15.300 Thank you for the gifted 20 subs, man.

07:03:17.040 Appreciate it.

07:03:18.020 Pull it back up.

07:03:18.860 Let's see the bow one more time.

07:03:20.620 Look at this.

07:03:21.420 Huge.

07:03:22.620 Boom.

07:03:23.000 Brian, I think, though, she probably has had plastic surgery, though.

07:03:26.880 Oh, well, I wasn't making...

07:03:28.060 I'm not saying, like, that's the epitome of the physical appearance.

07:03:33.060 I think she's an attractive girl, but it was more so the bow.

07:03:36.480 It's the submissiveness.

07:03:37.260 It's the bow.

07:03:37.860 Okay, we'll get an Asian girl, then.

07:03:42.560 I'm going to get a white girl to bow to me.

07:03:44.660 Or an Asian girl.

07:03:45.540 Good luck with that.

07:03:46.440 I can...

07:03:47.080 Shit, I'll...

07:03:47.800 But in terms of the labioplasty, to address the comment, I think that's a very bold statement

07:03:53.560 to make because you don't know why I had it done.

07:03:56.300 Does that make sense?

07:03:58.700 I don't think he was even...

07:04:00.220 He just said, get the rocks.

07:04:01.640 Care to elaborate?

07:04:02.780 Yeah.

07:04:03.220 I mean, like...

07:04:04.580 He just said, get the rocks.

07:04:07.320 Okay.

07:04:08.600 So then let me just shut the fuck up, then.

07:04:13.620 Based?

07:04:14.900 Would you...

07:04:15.480 The question is, would you date a man who checked all the boxes?

07:04:17.660 But wait, actually, hold on.

07:04:18.620 Before we do that, would you guys be willing?

07:04:21.300 Great guy.

07:04:22.040 Would you be willing?

07:04:22.700 If he wanted you to bow for him, would you do it?

07:04:26.300 Repeat, repeat.

07:04:29.960 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

07:04:30.980 Would you be willing to bow for a guy?

07:04:33.240 Would I be willing to bow for a guy?

07:04:34.720 Yeah.

07:04:34.920 Fuck no.

07:04:38.200 No?

07:04:38.740 Okay.

07:04:39.420 Does he bow for me, too?

07:04:41.140 No.

07:04:42.320 He wants you to bow to him.

07:04:44.160 No.

07:04:45.480 I'm Asian, so I'm down.

07:04:47.420 Maybe like a curtsy.

07:04:49.640 Can you show us a curtsy?

07:04:51.180 No.

07:04:51.580 Right now?

07:04:52.000 Okay.

07:04:52.040 My legs are numb from the way I've been saying this.

07:04:53.740 Nice.

07:04:54.020 Maybe as a joke, but probably not.

07:05:00.700 Yes.

07:05:01.960 It's like a sign of respect, though, for Asian people.

07:05:04.920 I've made guys bow down.

07:05:05.680 Maybe you'll have a different view of it.

07:05:07.760 It's not so much like a...

07:05:09.080 Just saying.

07:05:10.520 It's like respect.

07:05:11.800 You know what I'm saying?

07:05:13.320 Okay.

07:05:13.900 Does that make sense?

07:05:14.720 Yeah, no.

07:05:15.060 That's what I'm thinking of it.

07:05:16.540 You wouldn't bow?

07:05:17.540 Would you bow?

07:05:18.180 Actually, my last relationship, we were in an argument.

07:05:20.520 One of our last arguments, he thought he had the upper hand and demanded I got on my knees

07:05:26.120 and bowed down to him.

07:05:27.180 And he did it.

07:05:28.040 I said, get out of my house.

07:05:29.860 We're done.

07:05:30.380 Good, good, good, good, good.

07:05:31.320 And I would never, ever, ever do that.

07:05:34.340 Yeah, you don't know how many men I've had bow down to me.

07:05:36.100 It's amazing.

07:05:36.680 Brian, were you halfway...

07:05:40.540 I feel like you were halfway asking us another question, and then we got interrupted by a

07:05:45.400 super chat.

07:05:46.120 Am I...

07:05:46.960 Was it?

07:05:47.740 Maybe.

07:05:48.120 I don't know.

07:05:48.420 I don't know.

07:05:49.200 I know.

07:05:49.560 I think all of us were...

07:05:50.420 Would you bow?

07:05:51.400 Would you bow?

07:05:52.580 Oh, there you go.

07:05:53.520 Natalie would bow.

07:05:54.280 You would bow.

07:05:55.420 Natalie, you were a different woman by the end of this podcast than you were in the beginning.

07:05:58.940 Isn't that like the definition of submissive?

07:06:01.220 Yeah.

07:06:01.420 But, like, in all aspects, you would bow, whether that be, like...

07:06:05.300 Isn't that submitting to your...

07:06:07.100 Well, I don't...

07:06:07.460 It is, but, like, that was an Asian woman, and, like, that's the stereotype also.

07:06:12.040 But that's also a cultural thing of, like, respect.

07:06:14.400 Yeah, it's more cultural.

07:06:15.320 Cultural appropriation.

07:06:16.720 Yeah.

07:06:17.280 Fuck it.

07:06:17.860 Let's go.

07:06:19.120 I'm culturally appropriating.

07:06:20.840 I feel like...

07:06:22.660 I don't know.

07:06:23.100 I love when people indulge in, like...

07:06:24.800 No?

07:06:25.120 You don't like it?

07:06:25.900 Asian culture.

07:06:27.420 What's that?

07:06:27.840 I don't think there's anything that wrong.

07:06:29.100 Yeah, I don't think that's...

07:06:30.220 It's, like, not...

07:06:31.100 Okay, but instead of just...

07:06:32.560 White people have bowed throughout the years.

07:06:34.260 Hold on.

07:06:34.640 No, I'm saying in that scenario...

07:06:35.980 I'm not gonna...

07:06:36.440 Wait, hold on.

07:06:37.240 I'm not gonna allow you to claim cultural ownership of the bow.

07:06:40.560 I didn't say that.

07:06:41.120 You want to start talking about dreads?

07:06:42.380 We can talk about dreads.

07:06:43.460 Let's talk about dreads.

07:06:44.500 You want to talk about...

07:06:45.080 Dreads are intense.

07:06:45.560 You want to talk about...

07:06:47.300 I don't even know where I'm going with that.

07:06:48.320 I was just saying, like...

07:06:49.620 Never mind.

07:06:51.040 We're not gonna get into it.

07:06:52.220 Would you date a guy who culturally appropriated?

07:06:55.180 You're the one that used that term.

07:06:56.660 Going around the table.

07:06:58.160 Wait, would you date a guy who culturally appropriated?

07:07:00.720 No.

07:07:01.380 Like, he just wore, um...

07:07:03.760 Oh, wait, wait.

07:07:04.700 Is he...

07:07:05.040 Are you gonna get canceled?

07:07:05.600 Is he educated?

07:07:06.960 Is he educated?

07:07:08.120 No, I wasn't gonna say that.

07:07:10.100 I was gonna say, like, uh...

07:07:12.040 Like a sombrero.

07:07:13.400 Is he educated?

07:07:14.360 Like a white guy wearing a sombrero.

07:07:16.420 But that's what...

07:07:16.920 Like, people don't have...

07:07:17.540 Would that be cultural appropriation?

07:07:18.960 Is he educated on the tradition...

07:07:20.840 Is that cultural appropriation?

07:07:21.200 I think it depends on if it's maliciously intent to...

07:07:24.360 No.

07:07:24.660 ...to cultural appropriation.

07:07:25.200 It's like he likes...

07:07:26.160 If it's you genuinely, like, a particular style...

07:07:28.820 I came here tired.

07:07:30.280 I'm so...

07:07:30.780 What?

07:07:31.160 What is it about?

07:07:32.480 Would you date a guy who culturally appropriated?

07:07:35.120 Depends, like, how bad it is.

07:07:37.520 Hmm.

07:07:37.840 Okay.

07:07:38.080 I mean, if they're trying to be rude and, like, hurtful, that's a different situation.

07:07:44.680 No.

07:07:45.280 Yeah.

07:07:45.800 Like, you gave the example...

07:07:46.940 The example, you're like, oh, if he wore a sombrero, yeah.

07:07:49.800 I wouldn't give a fuck if he wore a sombrero.

07:07:51.580 Like, just the widest...

07:07:52.280 But if he was making fun of...

07:07:53.320 The widest guy you know.

07:07:54.780 Yeah.

07:07:55.240 Just rocking a sombrero.

07:07:57.320 I think I'd like that.

07:07:58.380 Genuinely like...

07:07:58.940 Sorry.

07:07:59.580 Go ahead.

07:07:59.660 Oh, no, you're good.

07:08:00.240 I need to stop talking, I think.

07:08:03.040 Sombrero, that's a Mexican thing, right?

07:08:05.860 I'm Hispanic.

07:08:06.620 I don't know why you're looking at me.

07:08:07.580 Is that a nice word?

07:08:08.080 Yeah, it's Mexican, yeah.

07:08:11.600 They wear it in Colombia, too, sometimes.

07:08:16.940 Okay, I'm not going to get canceled here.

07:08:20.340 Yes?

07:08:21.100 Cultural appropriator?

07:08:22.040 Would you date a cultural appropriator?

07:08:23.520 I think, like I said, if it was not maliciously intended.

07:08:27.520 I think if it was just something that he thought, you know, was interesting or looked cool or resonated with.

07:08:35.080 Okay, all right.

07:08:36.620 Good talk.

07:08:38.700 Where were we?

07:08:39.500 Oh, we were doing the bow.

07:08:40.800 Does anyone object to the bow?

07:08:44.360 I'm not a fan of the bow.

07:08:46.260 I would bow.

07:08:46.840 I mean, is anybody down to just do a bow right now?

07:08:50.200 Not to me.

07:08:51.060 Oh, guys, don't do it.

07:08:52.260 Can we see a bow?

07:08:52.960 No, no, no, no, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.

07:08:55.300 Standing?

07:08:55.860 You want to do a standing bow?

07:08:56.560 Yeah, I'll do a standing bow.

07:08:57.460 Just a fucking bow.

07:08:58.880 Yeah, because I'm Asian anyway, right?

07:09:02.200 Is this racist?

07:09:03.720 Don't, yeah.

07:09:04.560 Okay.

07:09:04.880 How would that be racist?

07:09:06.280 I don't know.

07:09:06.820 I don't know.

07:09:07.360 You agreed on that.

07:09:08.140 We're the only two Asian people in this room that I know of.

07:09:10.500 Oh, no, it's going to get clipped and it's like I'm asking a bird to bow to me.

07:09:14.020 She just bowed down to him to understand.

07:09:15.940 She identifies as a black man, though, so it's okay.

07:09:18.380 No.

07:09:19.740 Right?

07:09:20.140 That's what you said at the start of the show.

07:09:21.500 You said you were a black man.

07:09:22.560 People mistake me for a black man when they hear my name.

07:09:24.620 Your name.

07:09:25.300 That's right.

07:09:26.000 Can I see a bow?

07:09:27.080 I identify as Miller.

07:09:27.800 You don't want to see Gustavo do a bow.

07:09:29.240 I would say that for my man.

07:09:31.940 Will you do a bow?

07:09:32.580 Yes.

07:09:33.120 If Gustavo bows down to me right now, I will bow down to Gustavo.

07:09:37.140 Yes.

07:09:38.080 I like this.

07:09:39.860 Gustavo, do you want a girlfriend?

07:09:41.780 Oh.

07:09:41.920 Emmy's looking.

07:09:45.000 He's getting in position.

07:09:47.080 Who are you bowing down to, Gustavo?

07:09:48.960 Let's see it.

07:09:50.200 Nope.

07:09:51.940 Wow, that was...

07:09:52.740 No, no, no, no, no.

07:09:53.580 Come on.

07:09:54.040 Do it for real.

07:09:55.540 That's how low he went.

07:09:56.640 God, that's so bad.

07:09:57.540 I'm sorry.

07:09:57.960 This is really bad.

07:09:58.780 Thank you, Gustavo.

07:09:59.640 This is really bad.

07:10:01.520 What's really bad?

07:10:02.600 The bowing down.

07:10:04.760 Huh.

07:10:06.800 Okay.

07:10:08.060 What are the other things, Nick?

07:10:09.180 Let's pull up the other thing we needed to do.

07:10:10.780 Oh, guys.

07:10:12.380 Okay.

07:10:12.780 Sorry, but I should have prefaced this.

07:10:14.280 We're going to do a segment called, Would You Date This Man?

07:10:17.080 Would You Date This Man?

07:10:18.380 I'm going to show you two guys, two profiles.

07:10:20.300 Oh, the bow isn't necessarily showing weakness, as most of you on the panel think.

07:10:23.980 It's a symbol of showing respect.

07:10:25.260 That's what I said.

07:10:25.740 We guys don't really want to bow.

07:10:27.380 They made that very clear in Kung Fu Panda.

07:10:29.500 I said that like four times.

07:10:29.860 No, we know.

07:10:30.740 In Kung Fu Panda.

07:10:31.540 We know.

07:10:31.940 We made it very clear.

07:10:32.720 Yeah, Slayer.

07:10:33.120 Master of the way.

07:10:34.240 Thank you, Slayer.

07:10:34.840 Appreciate it.

07:10:35.980 Oh, we have...

07:10:36.880 Oh, hold on.

07:10:37.400 Jack underscore Pliadis underscore Chavanti donated $100.

07:10:42.380 39 years old.

07:10:44.320 All right.

07:10:44.740 Gate cheat is insane.

07:10:45.860 After 18 years, friends with benefits isn't ideal.

07:10:49.480 Doesn't make you a 304.

07:10:52.320 Young ones should listen to you.

07:10:54.500 Wisdom takes time.

07:10:56.360 Help them.

07:10:57.420 Hashtag labiaplastine of ear again.

07:10:59.940 Well, I can't undo it.

07:11:00.880 Thank you.

07:11:01.500 You're clearly...

07:11:02.180 You follow me on...

07:11:02.520 I think he's like six hours behind on the podcast, but...

07:11:06.680 Oh.

07:11:07.300 Because he was talking about...

07:11:08.460 It's almost like a fixation, though.

07:11:10.300 If you're interested, just go look.

07:11:12.900 Okay.

07:11:14.140 All right.

07:11:14.660 Would you date...

07:11:15.900 This man.

07:11:18.220 Would you date...

07:11:19.320 This man, his name is Zach.

07:11:21.640 He's a very nice guy.

07:11:24.360 He's a friend of mine.

07:11:25.080 I'm trying to get him set up with a lady.

07:11:27.800 He looks like Nicolas Cage in the first picture.

07:11:30.100 Yeah, he's handsome.

07:11:31.120 Yeah, he does.

07:11:32.040 He has an axe there in the third one.

07:11:34.700 Scroll down.

07:11:36.380 So, he's a great guy.

07:11:39.680 Wonderful man.

07:11:41.720 Great guy.

07:11:42.820 How old is he?

07:11:44.780 Not sure.

07:11:45.680 He looks like he lives in his mom's basement.

07:11:48.320 Yeah.

07:11:49.580 Well.

07:11:50.720 He does.

07:11:53.420 Did I nail it?

07:11:54.700 Listen, let's not jump to conclusions here.

07:11:57.420 So, going around the table, going around the table, would you date him?

07:12:04.520 Yeah.

07:12:04.960 No.

07:12:05.840 No, that guy is not my type.

07:12:07.560 Not your type?

07:12:08.600 No.

07:12:08.800 Okay.

07:12:09.440 No.

07:12:10.420 No, because I don't know if he's funny.

07:12:12.320 But also...

07:12:12.920 Let's say...

07:12:13.320 No, I wouldn't.

07:12:14.120 No.

07:12:14.260 Okay.

07:12:15.240 No.

07:12:16.120 No.

07:12:16.660 No.

07:12:17.900 No, I feel like I can outlift him.

07:12:19.820 Huh.

07:12:20.320 No.

07:12:21.620 Okay.

07:12:22.480 But I'm not trying to date right now.

07:12:24.020 Now, let me give you a bit more information about who he is.

07:12:27.060 His name.

07:12:28.140 Oh, God.

07:12:28.560 His gamer name is Asmongold.

07:12:30.240 Oh, he's a gamer.

07:12:31.080 He's one of the top...

07:12:31.980 Okay.

07:12:32.860 He's one of the top streamers on Twitch.

07:12:36.640 He's probably...

07:12:37.460 He owns some companies.

07:12:39.440 He's a millionaire many, many times over.

07:12:42.480 He's rich.

07:12:44.620 All around good dude.

07:12:46.880 And he's, again, one of the top Twitch streamers.

07:12:51.520 Does that change anything for anybody?

07:12:53.200 All I hear is material items.

07:12:55.400 Physical stuff.

07:12:55.700 He could retire you.

07:12:56.820 You'd never have to work a day in your life.

07:12:58.760 All I care about is my soul.

07:12:59.280 All you have to do is make him steak and bring him his sodas.

07:13:03.620 Uh-uh.

07:13:04.360 And door dashes.

07:13:04.980 I would burn the steak on accident, so it wouldn't work out.

07:13:07.900 All I care about is my soul.

07:13:10.720 Okay.

07:13:11.900 All right.

07:13:13.660 Zach, I tried.

07:13:14.560 I'm sorry.

07:13:15.540 Next one.

07:13:19.260 We have another guy here.

07:13:20.540 His name is Felix.

07:13:21.740 Aw.

07:13:22.940 Okay.

07:13:23.480 A little different here.

07:13:24.560 You know.

07:13:25.120 Scroll down a little bit.

07:13:26.900 All right.

07:13:27.160 This is Felix.

07:13:28.120 Yep.

07:13:28.700 Okay.

07:13:29.760 I think I know him.

07:13:30.760 And yeah, Felix.

07:13:32.740 There it is.

07:13:33.420 And he's a close friend.

07:13:36.080 Close friend of mine.

07:13:37.420 And we go way back.

07:13:40.000 And yeah, you know, he's a good guy.

07:13:41.420 He's a good guy.

07:13:42.440 He loves animals.

07:13:44.240 He's cats.

07:13:46.200 Oh, I have six dogs.

07:13:49.040 Yeah.

07:13:50.980 So, would you date this man starting with you?

07:13:58.460 Go ahead.

07:13:58.780 Like I said, I'm not looking for someone right now, but yes.

07:14:02.720 No.

07:14:03.880 No.

07:14:04.700 No.

07:14:05.940 Yes.

07:14:06.800 Oh.

07:14:07.800 You said he was a cat guy?

07:14:10.000 I think he likes dogs too.

07:14:11.620 Oh, okay.

07:14:13.180 Maybe.

07:14:14.100 Okay.

07:14:14.420 I have a problem with dudes or just people in general where their whole feed is just pictures

07:14:19.880 of selfies.

07:14:21.260 I just think it's a little vain or just self-absorbed.

07:14:26.560 So, no.

07:14:26.880 Okay.

07:14:28.120 No.

07:14:29.360 No.

07:14:29.740 Now, does it change anything to know that this person who goes by XQC online, he's one

07:14:37.280 of the top Twitch streamers.

07:14:40.640 He signed a deal with a company called Kick for, I believe, what was it, 100 million?

07:14:45.440 I've heard of that website.

07:14:47.640 Right.

07:14:48.100 How much was it, Nick?

07:14:49.160 Something like that.

07:14:49.920 He signed, like, a couple-year deal with Kick for $100 million.

07:14:54.340 He's rich.

07:14:56.620 Wow.

07:14:57.520 Successful.

07:14:58.700 Status.

07:14:59.660 Does it change anything?

07:15:01.120 Nothing?

07:15:01.420 Exactly.

07:15:02.580 Nope.

07:15:03.060 I'm sorry.

07:15:04.360 I'm sorry, Felix.

07:15:05.740 I tried.

07:15:06.840 Yeah.

07:15:08.160 I'm interested.

07:15:09.620 She did it before she knew.

07:15:11.200 You're interested?

07:15:12.120 I also already knew who that was.

07:15:13.680 Oh, you knew who it was.

07:15:14.480 Wait, I watch him.

07:15:15.680 All these are your friends, right?

07:15:17.860 Or, like, acquaintances.

07:15:18.900 Dear friends.

07:15:19.060 Or, like, you know them?

07:15:19.740 Dear friends.

07:15:20.160 Yes, they're dear friends.

07:15:21.120 Where's Sean?

07:15:21.700 Pull up Sean.

07:15:22.740 Sean?

07:15:23.180 I don't know.

07:15:23.740 Oh, Sean?

07:15:24.460 I don't know.

07:15:25.100 Sean?

07:15:25.820 I don't know.

07:15:26.400 We'll have to find it.

07:15:28.340 But, yeah.

07:15:29.020 So, sorry, guys.

07:15:29.960 I tried my best.

07:15:31.140 No, I was.

07:15:32.260 I didn't deny any of them.

07:15:32.540 You said, like, he's not your type.

07:15:34.040 What's your type?

07:15:35.000 Just curious.

07:15:36.120 A man that looks like he's holding up a fish in his hinge photos.

07:15:39.400 That's my fucking type.

07:15:41.040 Maple syrup is true.

07:15:43.740 Someone who owns a Bass Pro Shop hat.

07:15:47.500 Flannels?

07:15:48.040 She knows what she wants.

07:15:49.460 Nah.

07:15:49.960 Yeah, she knows what she wants.

07:15:51.220 Yeah, that's good.

07:15:52.280 All right.

07:15:53.480 Last thing, Nick, and then we're going to wrap.

07:15:56.020 We're going to react to this.

07:15:59.900 What's the audio?

07:16:00.660 Is this the girls expect the guys to pay on the first date?

07:16:03.520 Can you scroll?

07:16:04.260 Make it one bigger?

07:16:04.980 $1,000 worth of money on their face?

07:16:08.940 Make it one bigger?

07:16:09.200 Make it one bigger?

07:16:09.260 Yeah.

07:16:09.920 Just play it.

07:16:10.760 I don't think we need audio.

07:16:12.960 Actually, just put the audio really quick just to see if it was.

07:16:15.740 Lady!

07:16:16.380 Okay.

07:16:16.680 Yeah, it's nothing.

07:16:17.180 Let it, it's going to just replay, so we'll just let it replay.

07:16:20.740 So she's adding up all the makeup and all her costs, and she's, in the caption it says,

07:16:26.080 we didn't even, wait.

07:16:28.100 Oh, she's basically, why men should pay for the first date.

07:16:30.880 Oh, because of all the makeup she has to pay.

07:16:32.360 There's a lot of these going around.

07:16:34.220 Yeah.

07:16:35.600 I get it.

07:16:36.500 I understand.

07:16:38.160 And she's adding up the cost, total cost, of the products that she's using, and she, so this is why.

07:16:45.440 It's not a man's responsibility to sponsor a girl's lifestyle, especially if they're just dating.

07:16:51.420 I agree with her, yeah.

07:16:52.720 I agree with her.

07:16:53.200 I also think you're starting the call.

07:16:54.700 Total.

07:16:55.100 Total 758.

07:16:56.700 Why men should pay on the first date.

07:16:58.440 So we've seen it a couple times.

07:17:00.480 I'm curious, though, going around the table, I want to start on this side.

07:17:03.980 What is the flaw in what she's arguing here?

07:17:07.740 What she said.

07:17:09.040 Like, it's not up to him.

07:17:11.020 Like, it's her.

07:17:11.880 She could have gone with no makeup.

07:17:13.980 That's her fault for going with a full face of makeup, you know?

07:17:17.140 But anybody see the actual flaw with what she's doing?

07:17:20.720 Well, I see it as.

07:17:21.760 It's the expectation.

07:17:23.160 What is she bringing to the table?

07:17:24.620 It took the man years to become.

07:17:25.540 And then also for the clout.

07:17:27.560 She's clearly doing it for the clout.

07:17:29.680 But does anybody see the, like, if you're looking at the math, does anybody see the flaw?

07:17:34.760 Like, you're saying she did the math wrong?

07:17:36.240 She did it for all the products.

07:17:37.460 She did do it wrong.

07:17:38.620 She did do it wrong.

07:17:39.820 Of all the makeup products that she had.

07:17:42.540 But, like, you know, each date is, like, a fraction of the price.

07:17:45.880 And that's what I think.

07:17:46.740 The makeup has nothing to do with the date, is basically.

07:17:50.360 Right.

07:17:50.740 It's basically, like, arguing.

07:17:52.060 Let's say I'm a rich man.

07:17:55.300 And I bought a Lamborghini.

07:17:57.180 And because I'm picking you up on the date, that means that you now, like, owe me the cost, like, the cost of the entire Lamborghini.

07:18:06.820 It's ridiculous.

07:18:07.800 Exactly.

07:18:08.240 So, that's exactly what I was kind of looking for, is, well, in total, that's what those products cost.

07:18:15.700 But if you're using, say, one one-hundredth of it, well, okay.

07:18:20.020 And some guy actually did the math and, like, broke down all that stuff that she was applying.

07:18:24.220 And it came out to, like, 12 bucks total.

07:18:26.860 Per face.

07:18:27.720 Like, for per use, I think it was it.

07:18:30.620 So, yeah.

07:18:31.720 Girl math.

07:18:32.900 Girl math.

07:18:33.440 All right, before we wrap, any final thoughts from anybody, anything, any last topics you guys want to hit on?

07:18:44.780 I think I already asked you.

07:18:47.180 Tomorrow, Jasmine Jafar and I are filming another episode of Thoughts with Thoughts.

07:18:51.460 That's not really related.

07:18:52.540 Are we?

07:18:53.640 I love Jasmine.

07:18:54.180 Pleasure so cruel.

07:18:55.760 What was I going to say?

07:18:57.180 Thank you for having us.

07:18:58.380 Oh, two last questions here.

07:18:59.780 Because I feel like this is important, because feminism came up earlier.

07:19:05.460 What is a woman?

07:19:06.840 Starting with you.

07:19:09.860 A soul.

07:19:11.920 No, like, what is the, what is a woman?

07:19:14.580 What is that?

07:19:15.480 A soul.

07:19:16.100 That's it.

07:19:16.780 That's my definition.

07:19:17.880 Okay.

07:19:18.160 Someone who is biologically female.

07:19:21.840 Based?

07:19:22.240 Whoever identifies as a woman, because I just, I don't have any, you know, that's how I feel.

07:19:33.020 Okay.

07:19:33.040 So, a woman is somebody who identifies as a woman?

07:19:35.560 Mm-hmm.

07:19:37.740 Can you define woman without using the word woman?

07:19:44.720 Why are you, why are you looking at me that way?

07:19:47.020 Why do we have to end up?

07:19:48.200 Because, oh, I don't care.

07:19:50.140 I just.

07:19:50.900 I can't.

07:19:51.380 I personally don't have any, like, issue with the whole trans thing, so, like, that's where

07:19:57.320 you're going with this, right?

07:19:58.520 I'm like.

07:19:59.480 No, not even.

07:20:00.640 I'm just curious.

07:20:03.040 I don't really want to go there.

07:20:04.120 It's the end of the show.

07:20:04.960 Yeah, that's why, that's why I answered the way I did.

07:20:07.340 Oh.

07:20:08.100 Okay.

07:20:08.620 Okay.

07:20:09.040 Okay.

07:20:09.520 We'll just let that go.

07:20:10.300 Okay.

07:20:10.660 Because we could just go on for it.

07:20:11.860 What she said.

07:20:12.580 No, no, no, no, no, no.

07:20:13.400 That's what I mean.

07:20:14.840 Well, put it in your own words.

07:20:16.220 Go ahead.

07:20:16.860 Somebody who identifies as a woman.

07:20:18.540 Okay.

07:20:18.800 I'm going to say the same thing.

07:20:21.300 Somebody who identifies as a woman.

07:20:23.560 Are we talking, like, literal or figurative?

07:20:26.260 Yeah, I was thinking literal.

07:20:28.880 What your person is.

07:20:29.620 I don't know what a woman is figuratively, but literally.

07:20:32.600 Oh, I guess.

07:20:33.280 Yeah, okay.

07:20:34.060 Well, I'm just going to say, yeah, somebody who identifies as a woman.

07:20:37.780 Yes.

07:20:37.940 Somebody who's born biologically female.

07:20:42.280 I agree.

07:20:43.960 Biological female.

07:20:45.660 Okay.

07:20:53.260 So a woman is someone who identifies as a woman?

07:20:57.020 Can I identify as a woman?

07:20:59.540 Yes.

07:20:59.760 Yes.

07:20:59.860 Wait, so can I pose this question to the ladies who said that if someone identifies as a woman,

07:21:06.560 then they're a woman?

07:21:07.660 How do you feel if you have a daughter, and let's say, hypothetically, she's six, and she's

07:21:13.600 going to the bathroom by herself.

07:21:14.860 You're waiting outside.

07:21:15.640 Oh, I don't know if we want to go here.

07:21:17.840 I don't know.

07:21:18.440 What?

07:21:18.760 I know where you're going.

07:21:19.700 Would you not want to protect your daughter and ensure that by having gender-appropriate

07:21:28.120 bathrooms for biological?

07:21:31.020 Making sure she doesn't see certain things while she's in the bathroom.

07:21:34.740 Yes, that's just an example.

07:21:36.400 That's fine.

07:21:36.880 That's fine.

07:21:37.180 I'm trying to be very curated.

07:21:38.040 I mean, why are you waiting outside if that's something that you're concerned about?

07:21:41.920 Yeah.

07:21:42.820 I don't think I'd wait outside no matter.

07:21:44.480 I think biological women can do things, too.

07:21:47.520 If I'm bringing a child into this world, I'm going to make sure they're safe, 100%.

07:21:52.540 I'm sorry, but no.

07:21:53.680 I don't think I would send a small child into a bathroom by herself.

07:21:55.900 Okay, it doesn't matter the age.

07:21:57.380 My point is, would you not want to protect your child, boy or girl, from someone who has

07:22:03.200 ulterior motives?

07:22:04.480 Why are those people in my house in the first place?

07:22:07.020 I'm saying in public.

07:22:08.900 No, I'm saying in public, because anyone can identify as anything.

07:22:12.360 Yeah, you're right.

07:22:13.060 You're right.

07:22:13.420 You make a good point.

07:22:14.420 That's my only argument, is why wouldn't you want to protect children, because there's

07:22:17.960 sick-minded people in this world.

07:22:18.940 No, there is sick-minded people.

07:22:20.500 And I think that it's important, and not to disregard how someone may feel about themselves

07:22:24.820 and how they identify, but for the sake of protecting those that can't protect themselves,

07:22:28.840 I think that it's really important to reinforce biological gender-like norms in society.

07:22:37.120 So, at what point, then, are you okay to use a woman's bathroom?

07:22:41.700 If you have female parts.

07:22:44.180 So, if someone looks like a female, then they're okay to use it, even if they don't have a woman

07:22:49.600 parts?

07:22:50.180 Not necessarily.

07:22:51.340 Well, how would you know?

07:22:52.480 I wouldn't know, but I'm just...

07:22:53.660 Exactly.

07:22:54.000 No, I know, and that's not my place to investigate any person who walks into the bathroom to make

07:22:58.220 sure, like, that's not my point.

07:22:59.240 Wait, hold on.

07:22:59.740 Let me bring this back to dating.

07:23:01.940 Do you think...

07:23:03.900 Never talked about dating.

07:23:05.180 You just had to bring this up, like, right before...

07:23:07.340 Well, that's why I didn't...

07:23:08.060 Listen, we could talk about this for hours.

07:23:10.940 I can't stay in the bathroom.

07:23:12.600 We can keep going, like, over time.

07:23:13.820 Do we want to be here until 2 in the morning?

07:23:15.980 We're going to wrap soon.

07:23:16.780 Trust me, trust me, trust me.

07:23:17.700 Like, five minutes.

07:23:18.220 We were just wrapping.

07:23:18.960 Five minutes, five minutes, five minutes, five minutes.

07:23:20.400 Oh, my...

07:23:21.080 Five minutes, guys.

07:23:21.700 Don't worry.

07:23:22.060 Don't worry.

07:23:22.380 Relax.

07:23:23.440 Okay.

07:23:24.400 Do you think...

07:23:27.120 Would you...

07:23:27.500 Okay, would you object to a man not wanting to...

07:23:31.200 date a trans woman?

07:23:33.980 That's a preference.

07:23:35.000 That's something that comes up in dating.

07:23:36.500 Yeah, that's a preference.

07:23:37.320 I don't think there's anything wrong with...

07:23:38.340 Would you object to that?

07:23:40.300 No.

07:23:41.200 No.

07:23:41.740 Oh, she got up to the bathroom, Rip.

07:23:43.120 No.

07:23:43.560 In what context?

07:23:45.500 There is no...

07:23:45.880 Like, what do you mean, do you object?

07:23:47.940 Do you think it would be wrong for a guy to not want to date a trans woman?

07:23:53.680 I think anybody could date anybody, as long as they're not hurting anybody.

07:23:57.120 Yeah, you don't object.

07:23:57.880 So you don't object.

07:23:59.060 Okay.

07:23:59.200 No, I don't object to being gay or the LBGT.

07:24:04.620 That's not...

07:24:04.940 No, no, no.

07:24:05.280 That's not what I'm asking.

07:24:07.680 A man doesn't want to date somebody who's trans because they're trans.

07:24:11.540 Do you object to that?

07:24:15.660 The reason why I asked you contacts, because I know you've asked this kind of question before

07:24:19.860 and you ask it, would you consider the man gay if he wants to date a...

07:24:25.960 Okay, we can talk about that.

07:24:27.780 That's kind of the context of why I was asking you to be specific.

07:24:30.520 It's the same premise of asking, like, would you feel a type of way if someone didn't want

07:24:34.980 to date you because you're an OnlyFans?

07:24:36.260 Like, I don't care.

07:24:37.120 Anybody could date anybody if it makes you happy, but you have to, I feel like I ask a more

07:24:42.580 specific question or have more specific...

07:24:45.840 Seems pretty specific to me.

07:24:48.760 No, I don't.

07:24:49.560 I don't.

07:24:50.340 If you, if it makes you happy, no, I don't object at all.

07:24:53.000 You don't object to it?

07:24:53.660 No.

07:24:53.840 Okay.

07:24:53.980 Well, it's not, I don't want it to make me happy.

07:24:57.980 I don't want you to give me an answer.

07:24:59.300 No, if it makes the other person happy, I don't care.

07:25:01.620 Okay.

07:25:02.080 Anybody could date anybody.

07:25:04.040 Okay.

07:25:04.500 Yeah.

07:25:05.580 All right.

07:25:06.300 Once they're back, I'll ask, once she's back, I'll ask the final two questions and then we'll

07:25:11.900 go from there.

07:25:12.660 Well, okay.

07:25:13.120 Well, do you think it can be straight for a man to date a trans woman?

07:25:20.120 No.

07:25:20.480 I don't know.

07:25:23.220 You don't want, she doesn't want part, whoa, whoa, whoa.

07:25:26.520 Wow.

07:25:27.900 She doesn't want to be part of that conversation.

07:25:30.600 Do you think it can be straight?

07:25:32.200 Like, is it, is it, is it straight?

07:25:34.800 Yeah, because that's a woman.

07:25:37.340 I disagree.

07:25:38.140 But is it a woman?

07:25:38.980 What if they have a penis?

07:25:40.560 Okay.

07:25:42.020 I could use a strap on.

07:25:42.960 Like, let's say, what the fuck?

07:25:45.400 Okay.

07:25:45.600 I'm just saying, I get the same.

07:25:46.960 So if you saw, like, let's say you just like had a video.

07:25:51.140 And it was like, it was a dude S-ing the D of a peen?

07:25:56.080 Mm-hmm.

07:25:58.520 You, that could, in what world could that ever be straight?

07:26:05.160 If it's a woman.

07:26:06.260 A woman with a peen?

07:26:09.380 Sure.

07:26:10.420 They're losing it back there.

07:26:12.740 Wait, so hold on.

07:26:13.800 It can be straight?

07:26:15.360 If it looks like a woman, and that's like, you're going into it like, oh, this is a woman?

07:26:21.300 Yeah.

07:26:21.580 No, I have a caveat.

07:26:24.620 If, for example, it's an extremely passing transsexual person.

07:26:31.240 So there's a man, and his partner clearly passes as a female in every sense of the word, but she's still fully intact.

07:26:39.700 There's some gray area there.

07:26:41.480 There's no gray area.

07:26:42.940 I could feel like he may be heterosexually inclined because he likes the femininity that she is presenting.

07:26:51.280 However, I feel like the sex that they're having is homosexual.

07:26:55.340 I think you can't argue against biology, and you can say, you know, there's no longer a penis, or, you know, there's fake boobs now, or whatever, but it's like, ultimately, it's like the skeletal muscle mass, the muscle density, the size of the organs, the size of the jaw.

07:27:10.700 It's like, you can't detransition, or transition, sorry, you can't transition beyond certain things.

07:27:16.940 The size of a man's hands compared to a woman's hands, sure, there's more feminine aspects of a man, sure.

07:27:23.240 Wait, okay.

07:27:23.940 Well, there's also extremely feminine men, biological men, and vice versa.

07:27:27.640 Wait, so just to open it up to them, too, they weren't here.

07:27:30.280 Would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman?

07:27:33.760 I thought I already answered that.

07:27:35.180 Oh, did you?

07:27:35.780 Yeah.

07:27:36.040 She did.

07:27:36.600 She said no.

07:27:37.180 Yeah, Taylor did it.

07:27:38.080 I said no.

07:27:38.800 When I object, I'd be like, no, you have to fucking, like.

07:27:42.540 No, but would you find an objectionable?

07:27:45.260 I wouldn't, I think no one should do something they don't want to do.

07:27:48.900 Okay.

07:27:49.200 Do you think it could be evidence of some sort of bigotry or transphobia?

07:27:53.660 Not necessarily.

07:27:54.200 Okay.

07:27:55.580 So I guess the question is, though, the final question on that, is it, can it be straight, is the question?

07:28:04.580 Yes.

07:28:06.820 I think so.

07:28:07.900 It's, so for.

07:28:08.960 By our definitions, yeah.

07:28:10.000 By all definitions?

07:28:11.000 By our definitions.

07:28:11.940 Your definitions.

07:28:12.620 Of, like, what a woman is.

07:28:14.580 Like, I've asked before.

07:28:15.900 Well, so.

07:28:16.720 Sorry, I don't need to speak for you.

07:28:17.800 It's not clear to me if it would be straight in that situation, though.

07:28:21.040 But who here thinks it would be straight for a man to be with a trans woman?

07:28:25.960 It could be.

07:28:27.120 It could be straight.

07:28:28.220 Yeah.

07:28:28.500 Okay.

07:28:28.660 I don't like labels.

07:28:30.400 Do you, okay.

07:28:31.280 Your thoughts?

07:28:32.160 Not straight?

07:28:33.660 I think it could be.

07:28:35.380 I think straight.

07:28:36.440 Straight?

07:28:37.480 Because they identify.

07:28:38.400 I'm not sure.

07:28:39.600 You don't know?

07:28:40.240 I don't know.

07:28:40.920 You, what was your.

07:28:41.940 Not straight.

07:28:42.540 Not straight.

07:28:43.180 I think you guys, we know where you guys are on that.

07:28:45.720 Well, okay.

07:28:46.140 So for those of you who think it's straight, let me ask.

07:28:48.980 Would you guys agree that straight is short form slang for heterosexual?

07:28:57.200 Yeah.

07:28:57.720 Yeah.

07:28:57.960 Okay.

07:28:58.880 So if we're looking at the sex of the individuals.

07:29:02.660 If they're both male, how could it ever be heterosexual?

07:29:09.160 If they're both biologically male.

07:29:11.580 How could it ever be heterosexual?

07:29:13.320 Well, actually, what's the definition of a woman for me?

07:29:15.620 And I said someone who identifies as a woman.

07:29:17.680 So if a guy.

07:29:19.480 Let me even concede that.

07:29:21.320 Okay.

07:29:21.720 If I even concede that.

07:29:22.920 But you acknowledge that the sex of the individual is still male, correct?

07:29:28.080 Of course.

07:29:28.900 That's what sex refers to.

07:29:32.700 You're getting sassy.

07:29:33.900 I'm not getting sassy.

07:29:35.260 Look, it's just.

07:29:36.420 He's done flirting.

07:29:36.940 If it's slang for heterosexual.

07:29:40.200 He's done flirting.

07:29:40.880 I know.

07:29:41.240 Okay.

07:29:45.620 So if you were to go through gender reassignment surgery, then does that make you whatever?

07:29:51.920 If no one knew, if no one would ever know the difference, if you were passing enough, would you then be considered a woman or a male?

07:30:00.800 Vice versa.

07:30:02.060 Well, you can never change your sex.

07:30:04.020 I'm saying like.

07:30:04.980 You can never become a male or a female.

07:30:05.600 To everybody else, right?

07:30:07.320 Would you ever know?

07:30:08.280 No, but I'm talking about.

07:30:09.400 Okay.

07:30:09.760 We're talking about sex.

07:30:12.320 I know, but I'm arguing the fact that.

07:30:14.380 Okay.

07:30:14.560 Just because they have a penis at that point, that's the only thing left that they didn't transition.

07:30:20.760 Right?

07:30:21.700 Well, I don't think there's any.

07:30:23.120 It could be like pansexual or whatever.

07:30:29.160 Okay.

07:30:29.520 Well, then you get into a gray area with yourself.

07:30:32.440 Like, I'm just saying.

07:30:33.080 But it can never be heterosexual.

07:30:36.020 There's no realm where two males having sex can ever be heterosexual or straight.

07:30:43.480 So.

07:30:43.880 It's just, it just definitionally is impossible.

07:30:46.860 Again, so like, if they had gender reassignment surgery and it was a female, looked like a female, biological female, let me correct myself, sounded like, dressed like, everything, looked like, had a vagina.

07:31:01.400 It's not, that's not a vagina.

07:31:03.560 Okay.

07:31:04.320 But you know what I mean.

07:31:05.440 Wait, why are you shaking your head?

07:31:06.620 I am shaking my head.

07:31:07.600 Okay.

07:31:08.100 All right.

07:31:09.280 I just look.

07:31:09.940 I'm just arguing the other side.

07:31:10.880 I don't think, I don't, I, I don't think that you can, if you weren't born with a vagina, I don't think you can make a vagina.

07:31:25.560 I don't think that that fits like the anatomically.

07:31:29.520 I don't think it's, it's a vagina.

07:31:32.780 Vagina, vagina, vagina.

07:31:33.980 It doesn't look exactly like.

07:31:36.140 Oh, it's not just the look.

07:31:37.500 Oh, my God.

07:31:42.520 What?

07:31:43.220 Dude.

07:31:43.560 Is this getting too deep?

07:31:44.480 I mean, I'm just.

07:31:46.160 I see your point.

07:31:47.260 I can't let this shit.

07:31:48.460 Because at what point then would you be like, yes, that's a female?

07:31:52.560 Like, you wouldn't, my point is, if you wouldn't know, like, you wouldn't know.

07:31:57.300 Sorry.

07:31:58.040 Eh, you wouldn't know.

07:31:59.280 Not necessarily.

07:31:59.840 No, because there, there have been, I was, I can't remember where I was listening to it, but it was, it was about a man who was in a relationship with a woman for three months and he did not know that she was born a biological man.

07:32:16.740 Hungry as fuck.

07:32:17.460 He literally didn't know.

07:32:19.620 And personally, that's morally wrong because that's just crossing a line, I feel, that she crossed a line.

07:32:27.660 I'm not going to be forced.

07:32:28.580 The point is, he didn't know, so I could see your point.

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07:33:51.720 Look, just final thing on this.

07:33:53.160 I just, I don't think that there's, I'm not, like, are you saying that I would have to,

07:33:57.160 accept as man I would have to accept a surgically invented vagina as an actual like I would have to

07:34:05.320 accept that that that's just the same as a female pussy like I have to accept that no one ever said

07:34:13.780 that I'm just saying but you're saying it's the same thing do we say I mean at what point do we

07:34:20.720 accept a transgender woman as a woman so that's why I think there's so many gray areas where

07:34:26.320 okay last question last question last question last question last question final question of the

07:34:39.560 show I promise do we need men no yes fuck yeah yeah I guess yeah you guess yeah yeah absolutely

07:34:52.640 oh I love men yes yeah definitely you're the only one who said no do your own research I'm not I'm

07:35:02.340 not going to give you the knowledge because that's some very deep ancient knowledge and I'm not going

07:35:06.400 to tell you that wait wait but ancient knowledge you're not going to give me the why is that because

07:35:12.720 you have to find that yourself do you know how much research that takes to find ancient hidden books

07:35:17.580 about why you Egyptians all the background thing never mind can you name 10 books name 10 books

07:35:25.400 uh I don't get it so you but you you said you we do not need men are the five minutes over

07:35:33.380 what do you what do you mean because you said we were going to end in five minutes

07:35:38.140 maybe after you name 10 books I can what name 10 books and we can wrap up the show

07:35:46.720 no like who the fuck do you think I am I'm not a wikipedia I'm not like dictionary encyclopedia

07:35:54.320 like clearly go google it I'm not going to give you the books because they're hard to find I found

07:36:00.620 them myself they're hard to find yes they're hard to find but can you just name 10 books no I'm not

07:36:07.040 going to name them because like no you can name Harry Potter bro why you can't name some name Harry

07:36:11.260 Potter books witchcraft 101 there you go that's that's the name of the book who's the author

07:36:16.440 witchcraft 101 there you go that that's name that's that's the witch's name I don't care about the

07:36:21.180 author I don't care you don't know who the author is I don't care about that book who's the author of

07:36:25.880 the book I don't care about that book which book do you care about you don't want to know who's

07:36:31.000 the author of the book I can't tell you it's a secret it is it's a witch secret there you go you're

07:36:36.360 learning yeah I'm learning um wait so but go why do you think we don't need wait hold on let me make

07:36:46.680 sure that's not double negative what you think we don't need men why is that shouldn't you be

07:36:52.860 appreciative of men you do you appreciate men I appreciate men I appreciate you just said we

07:36:57.500 don't need men I appreciate souls you appreciate souls well you just said you we don't need men why

07:37:03.320 is that you said you hate men earlier didn't you I did yeah no I did and then I said I said out of

07:37:11.000 anger um I appreciate men um I just don't think we need them that's it you don't think we need

07:37:20.240 knowledge that's it do your own knowledge I'm not gonna sit here and explain it to you so you're if

07:37:24.780 you don't understand why there's a reason why do you realize how if if do you think life would be

07:37:30.300 better if all men just disappeared it's a serious question go ahead um no no no oh but I thought we

07:37:43.100 don't need men do your own research on what I already said it no you didn't just do your own research on

07:37:49.620 what I'm not gonna say it on this podcast on the the witchcraft I can tell you after oh that's okay

07:38:01.000 you don't I'm not I'm not that interested okay then do your own research if you're not then don't

07:38:06.120 believe me I don't care I was I came here just like try to spread knowledge but everyone just

07:38:12.780 keeps shutting me down hold on just just just so I have that clear you came here to spread knowledge

07:38:19.260 yeah I tried my best I tried my best knowledge was at the forefront of what you came to

07:38:24.800 spread on this podcast okay okay

07:38:29.460 and awareness but it's okay knowledge and awareness yeah

07:38:35.300 anything else any other things you wanted to spread besides vd sorry what positivity but that was

07:38:44.620 kind of hard with yeah what sorry I said positivity and but wait you came to spread positivity yeah but

07:38:52.660 kind of negative this entire show well no I was just not trying to react I'm really good at not reacting

07:38:58.200 so you're really good at not not reacting you've have you been wanting to react this entire show

07:39:04.160 yeah of course okay okay

07:39:08.420 just uh

07:39:17.200 oh man the the moment the moment passed it's sad it's sad okay um I'm trying to think are we tied for the

07:39:25.600 latest running show we're pretty close I'm gonna wrap up here last thing guys if you're over there on

07:39:31.040 twitch go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub drop us a follow drop us a

07:39:35.860 prime sub if you're still watching over there on twitch I'm gonna raid somebody we're gonna

07:39:39.660 wrap up there damn damn um wait do you want to I want to get last thing I

07:39:46.360 do you want to ask me the question that you were asking earlier what question you know the one

07:39:54.200 the one I as a kid the one the kid one

07:39:59.240 or what's wrong with you question oh no the astral your the sign the birthday I don't know it wasn't

07:40:07.480 that it was something else

07:40:08.780 Chad am I being a goblin Nick am I being a goblin Nick do you know what I'm trying to do I think we

07:40:17.820 need to sleep am I being a goblin Nick I feel like it's deserving but I missed my opportunity

07:40:24.360 earlier on in the show I missed my opportunity um

07:40:28.500 I haven't contacted my friends in six hours oh no it's been over seven

07:40:36.800 seven

07:40:38.180 I'm not even from here like well if you can't we should go over here yeah I'm going right back to

07:40:45.320 the airport the lift home oh I think you're asking you're asking me if I got rejected is that

07:40:50.720 oh okay I yeah I I'm wondering okay let's stand back to your childhood

07:40:57.380 um as a kid one well no this is too personal I don't want to know uh okay all right all right

07:41:08.260 I I missed my opportunity earlier I should have done it earlier I was uh I was being greedy in

07:41:13.860 farming but okay um so guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for

07:41:19.880 tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate

07:41:23.460 that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the show we will be live again

07:41:27.920 sunday 5 p.m pacific any girls who want to be on the show dm at whatever on instagram if you can

07:41:32.700 make it to santa barbara those of you on twitch stick around for just a sec I'm gonna raid uh who am

07:41:37.500 I gonna raid I'm gonna raid s fans uh give give that just a few moments to get going let's see uh

07:41:44.700 thank you to the panel gg well played uh appreciate you guys coming I appreciate your

07:41:50.120 guys's patience here we did go very late um I want to mostly blame her for that it's definitely

07:41:55.140 all her fault um oh sevens oh sevens in the chat please like the video on your way out those of you

07:42:01.640 on twitch I'm gonna raid s fans right now rating we're going we're going we're going and then uh

07:42:06.920 that's it so oh sevens in the chat let me just make sure double okay we got everything okay

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Whatever Podcast - March 27, 2024

She DIVORCED Him For BAD Sex？! Dating A FEEDER？! Husband CHEATED With Men？! ｜ Dating Talk #147

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