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00:02:35.220 before i have the guests introduce themselves uh we had 10 flakes today

00:02:38.980 eight of which were well okay we had a couple no shows i think seven of which were under 24 hour

00:02:47.020 notice so i'd like to just do a little shout out noelle claims to have covid jazz claims to have

00:02:53.800 covid iona claims to have covid mesinze i don't know how the fuck to pronounce your name claims to

00:02:59.280 have covid alissa fence sitter whose boyfriend didn't approve katie no reason given natalia no reason

00:03:05.860 given jatania no show jack yaz yaz no show sarah no show gentlemen this is what you're going to be

00:03:13.900 dealing with in the dating marketplace you're going to get flaked on day of they don't give a fuck

00:03:17.920 this is why you don't plan some elaborate first date because any of you who've had experience with

00:03:23.280 dating know that last minute flakes are extremely common when i was more active in the dating scene

00:03:28.060 i think my flake rate was for planned dates was like 50 percent uh and they're going to flake right

00:03:33.040 before the date like a few hours before so uh yeah that's what you're dealing with in the dating

00:03:37.900 marketplace anyways without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please

00:03:41.440 tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hi my name is rachel i am 21 and i am a student

00:03:49.920 currently at uc santa barbara and i study biopsychology got it welcome hi my name is ariel i'm 23 years old

00:03:57.680 and i'm a paralegal okay do you want to become a lawyer i do want to become an attorney yeah because

00:04:03.100 your instagram handle is like miss attorney so you're not quite there not yet not yet but you

00:04:08.780 want to be an attorney do you know what kind of law you'd like to practice i would like to either go

00:04:13.120 into big corporate law or civil rights law oh if you can close the doors nick um corp corporate law

00:04:22.540 okay got it okay what about you i'm yasmin i'm 32 and i work in sales all right

00:04:30.820 uh i'm becca i'm 29 i also work in sales what what do you guys sell drugs no um i work for a tech

00:04:41.440 company so software okay what about you drug dealer medical aesthetics oh so you work at the plastic

00:04:51.280 surgeons office right sort of but not really like it's more like lasers lasers so what are some

00:04:59.580 what what are you what are you selling precisely laser facials laser hair removal okay okay so yeah

00:05:05.640 yeah that's not cosmetic surgery that's it's almost dermatology kind of yeah but it falls under

00:05:13.600 medical aesthetics uh violet what about you i'm violet i'm 23 and i'm a content creator 23 content

00:05:21.940 what kind of content do you make violet i make adult content and travel lifestyle kind of okay got it

00:05:29.900 um how long have you been doing adult content for since i was 18 since you're 18 okay and i've been

00:05:35.580 making content since i was 17 like not okay okay okay okay um and when it comes to the adult content

00:05:43.860 wait at any point were you a dancer too no i mean i was a dancer in high school but not like

00:05:50.120 adult like yeah um and when it comes to the content you do is it are you making solo content bg content

00:05:57.340 girl girl content would you i mainly do solo i have done collabs with girls um i'd like i prefer solo

00:06:05.400 because i can kind of just do my own thing and i've also done like boy girl with strangers and

00:06:13.860 you know random people but nothing like oh i collabed with a male porn star i've never done that

00:06:20.320 but you so you have done bg content correct yes okay gotcha are you at liberty to speak about the recent

00:06:27.160 uh dilemma with your content creation or um yeah i can speak a bit about it are you saying like with

00:06:38.000 my management with management because like you you were working with a management company and then

00:06:42.780 yeah you had a falling out i was with them since i was 18 um and that's when i got my name violet

00:06:50.260 summers and they put me on all my accounts and i've worked with them oh i'm so sorry so i've been

00:06:56.260 with them since i was 18 and they put me on all of my accounts and it's been great i just wanted to

00:07:04.760 do something else and i have no ill will towards them but okay it's his decision ultimately in the

00:07:12.000 end if i get to keep my accounts and that just wasn't really what he wanted to do so i totally

00:07:17.240 understand and it's good i wish them well but i wanted to move on well because didn't you have like

00:07:22.920 a instagram account with 13 million followers on it yes i did and but it wasn't yours it was the

00:07:30.160 management company's account yes so he gave me that when i started working for him and i built it up

00:07:35.320 but technically it's his because we had an agreement that i would make it money the whole time okay have

00:07:42.100 you thought about trying to buy the account or did they delete it what did they do with it so i talked

00:07:47.740 to him and i was like hey i would love to still work with you with on social media or if i could

00:07:52.300 buy the account um the only way he wants to do it is to have a brand i don't know he wanted me to make

00:08:00.860 a brand and then we could sell something from that account with that brand but i just really want to

00:08:07.060 focus on content creating right now and i just don't want to do that so i just told him no okay oh so

00:08:14.300 there's not like a big falling out or anything just no it's just um everyone has their own

00:08:21.500 relationship and idea about aaron um who aaron is the manager of nudies sorry you've talked to him

00:08:28.860 before aaron yes oh no just kidding but um wait what

00:08:36.220 so yeah he's just the man i just there's a lot of only fans management companies that reach out to

00:08:44.820 me so okay i got you yeah okay so he works with one i'm sure sure sure where was i what was i saying

00:08:50.520 uh you were saying it's all good yeah it's all good yeah um it's just parting ways and that's pretty

00:08:57.480 much it okay madison what about you my name is madison i'm 18 years old i'm a student at sbcc

00:09:05.600 studying business as well as a host at a bar and i work for the whatever podcast rock and roll and

00:09:12.700 then violets actually she's starting to work for the whatever podcast too she's going to be helmet

00:09:17.360 girl number two and we're going to put her on the other side but she that's that was going to be the

00:09:21.440 plan for today however uh we had to throw her on the panel because uh we had some no shows so

00:09:29.200 okay we're gonna go around the table once more what is your current relationship status so are you

00:09:34.200 single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem

00:09:39.980 all of the above um how long have you been single if you're single what's your longest relationship

00:09:46.960 go ahead um i would say i'm currently single uh yeah i'll stick with that um and my longest

00:09:54.780 relationship ever has only been seven months longest relationship seven months you're currently

00:10:00.940 single correct yes okay got it um i'm currently single as well longest relationship was three years

00:10:10.340 and i've been single for the past five months longest relationship five years currently single

00:10:18.980 about less than two years you've been single for less than two years got it what about you

00:10:25.940 uh currently single been single for over a year now and longest relationship was a little under two

00:10:34.240 years sorry um you've been repeat that you've been single for how long again

00:10:39.240 um it's been over a year now okay one year and longest relationship you said was two years right

00:10:45.260 yes okay violet what about you i've been single since i was 17 and my longest relationship was in

00:10:52.320 high school and that was two and a half years okay 2.5 but so you've been single for six years

00:10:58.900 right yes okay six years madison i'm currently very taken my current relationship is my longest and

00:11:08.420 it's been a year and a month all right so there we have it um let's see so everyone here is single

00:11:16.460 besides maddie what does it mean though to be single

00:11:21.440 so

00:11:24.480 i'm asking there's a guy in the picture right there's somebody in the picture i mean there's always somebody

00:11:33.900 usually got a sneaky link or two but i don't know i see like being single is like independence it's

00:11:41.660 freedom it's like the ability to do whatever you want um well you said so you said you're always

00:11:47.760 seeing somebody usually yes and you mentioned sneaky link or two how many do you currently have

00:11:54.840 any sneaky links yeah i would say i have a sneaky link eight singular plural you have just one two

00:12:01.340 three four five seven uh i would say um i'm currently ignoring some if that is an answer i don't i don't

00:12:15.640 know i'm really bad at answering those types of questions you're ignoring how many are you ignoring

00:12:22.100 let's start there um at the moment i would say like three maybe four arguably ignoring through

00:12:33.540 the four yes so they're texting you they're trying to hit you up and you're just not responding or

00:12:38.820 you're kind of yeah actually maybe four or five yeah i'm just kind of being like a little snake on my

00:12:44.480 five to six oh man i have no idea this is it's hard to keep track after a while you know well it's

00:12:51.040 also like very very whoa very many variations and like how those relationships kind of are so

00:12:59.940 yeah sorry i feel like i'm doing bad at this

00:13:06.140 so um there's a couple of sneaky links that you're ignoring yes how many uh like are you

00:13:14.680 people are you currently are you bi are you both ways i i get that asked a lot um i mean i don't

00:13:24.320 really know what to call myself as far as sexuality goes because like i'm just extremely open-minded like

00:13:30.860 i've liked girls before i've liked people that are trans um i usually just i usually like

00:13:38.560 date men and stuff just because they're really easy um but yeah wait you prefer to date men because

00:13:48.820 they're really easy well it's not because i prefer to date men it's just they are easy so that's kind

00:13:54.540 of how it goes men are easy you mean like to get laid are you talking like getting sex from them

00:14:00.280 i mean yes as a female it's very easy to get laid by a man you just kind of have to ask okay

00:14:05.740 yeah pretty straightforward yeah pretty simple okay um so do you have like a estimate a sense of

00:14:13.220 like how many people you're currently seeing i would say currently you're not ignoring like sneaky

00:14:19.420 links or whatever i would say like technically one yes oh technically one technically one okay

00:14:25.020 gotcha yes okay got it um and i'm gonna come back to this some of some of all this stuff in a

00:14:30.600 little bit but um men are easier is anyone else here by violet are you no i'm not i do i do girl

00:14:40.560 content but i you're definitely not by yeah okay so you're gay for pay is that the term yeah i mean

00:14:47.620 for sure i'll definitely have fun and my girl girl shows they're more like oh we're hanging out and

00:14:54.940 we're you know playing with ourselves together you know we're kind of like being naughty little girls

00:15:00.120 warm okay uh cool so just you none of you have experimented and like kissed a girl and you liked it

00:15:10.740 katie perry no have you ever like tried getting with a girl i mean you say like men are easier so

00:15:20.760 i'm wondering if you like tried a woman and i'm pretty sure she's just tried see it's hard you've

00:15:24.960 tried i mean yeah kind of um it's definitely like difficult like i've never hooked up with a female

00:15:30.660 before like i've definitely like kissed and made out with girls like maybe a handful of times not very

00:15:37.060 many um it's really hard to tell with females whether or not they're just being drunk and nice

00:15:43.120 or if they're actually trying to flirt with you you know um also i get very intimidated by girls

00:15:49.700 okay i would imagine it's hard being a lesbian because i feel like girls are not very like

00:15:55.580 confrontational we're very like you come up to me and then if i accept i accept but for girls it's

00:16:02.460 like who comes up to who first yeah i feel like gender roles have been changing a lot too like

00:16:09.000 even in relationships with men i get really confused sometimes like what is and isn't

00:16:14.800 you know okay or what to be expecting so like yeah with females like it's like extremely complicated

00:16:21.040 yeah okay um so there's one person you're kind of dating now is it a it's a guy i'm assuming yes okay

00:16:28.640 and you have a couple sneaky links that you're ignoring got it uh what about you do you have uh

00:16:35.180 a couple sneaky links at the moment no sneaky link situation situation ship no nothing none of that

00:16:42.500 zilch no none i'm a believer so what do you mean a believer i'm a christian okay so so you're do that

00:16:50.680 some do but not over here so there's uh no guys in the picture i'm like dating is it are you on any

00:17:00.700 dating apps i'm on dating apps yeah when's the last time you went on a date oh lord um lord have mercy

00:17:08.940 three years ago three years ago three years ago you're on dating apps though no no luck well i just

00:17:15.260 became single a few months ago you're newly single newly single newly single yes why did he dump you

00:17:24.360 none of that oh i dumped oh you dumped him unfortunately why did you dump him

00:17:28.960 um quick answer he was not a believer so oh yeah how long were you dating him three years

00:17:39.120 you found that out three years into the relationship um or did your belief change and so

00:17:45.900 no my belief was always the same but um he basically lied about it and i didn't know okay until

00:17:52.720 something transpired it's it says here in the pre-show notes you provided i was unaware that i was in a

00:17:58.980 love triangle and i was the pawn are you this most recent relationship different relation that's a

00:18:04.140 different thing yeah different love okay not a love triangle okay i see okay um so are you you're

00:18:11.940 you're christian are you waiting until marriage to get frisky yes so are you a virgin yes okay i am

00:18:19.540 my purity ring that's a that's the purity it's gorgeous most people like oh my gosh you're married

00:18:24.280 i'm like married to jesus that's what i tell them okay married to jesus if it let's say you're you're

00:18:32.740 23 now let's say you get to 33 and nothing happens do you become a nun like at what point would you

00:18:40.780 ever become a nun no what if you're 43 and it just like hasn't happened yet it'll happen i'm not worried

00:18:46.780 about that yeah because that's what i always wonder like what if you're really religious and like you're

00:18:51.380 but just like nobody comes along i'm not saying that's gonna happen i'm just yeah i think like you

00:18:57.900 just you know you just go out on a friday night at 43 and you're just like all right i'm just gonna

00:19:02.260 fuck somebody some people have some mysterious stories and some people get to become married at

00:19:07.740 like 50 60 70 but you want kids i do want kids you're like how is that gonna work huh well well

00:19:15.320 i mean look i mean i'm just saying let's say you hit 45 it hasn't happened yet you can still i mean

00:19:23.120 you can still get pregnant 45 it's tough though i think that's like i think it's gonna happen soon

00:19:28.960 you're only 23 right she's got time you have time he's trying to make it seem like i'm so old

00:19:33.800 no no you're young you're 23 but because you are like christian i think yeah yeah like it's gonna

00:19:39.620 happen for you yeah that's like the best pot of men you can like go in and find so and then i'm

00:19:45.480 going to a christian university so there's something called like okay something where like they get

00:19:51.240 married like really fast in the first three months ring by spring yes spring by spring ring by spring i

00:19:59.420 know well what's what's that you gotta ring by spring i used to get engaged by spring yeah like everyone

00:20:05.420 does that at that university at multiple most private christian universities yeah so you just come

00:20:11.480 out come out married yeah all right what about you you're single how long did you say you've been

00:20:18.740 single for a little less than two years a little less than two years okay uh are you currently seeing

00:20:25.500 anybody no one of the nelk boys no because isn't your girlfriend that you were gonna bring but i guess

00:20:31.440 she couldn't make it she's dating one of the nelk boys isn't she i don't know what do you mean you

00:20:36.500 don't know isn't she one of your friends yeah who she did what's his name it's it's not one like the

00:20:43.380 um i forgot his name one of the nelk boys whatever um are you in that circle do you move in that circle

00:20:50.740 no okay so you're are you on any dating apps right now no are you are you is there any guy in the

00:21:02.860 picture right no to sum it up single and celibate you're celibate until i meet the right person yeah

00:21:08.280 until you meet the right person or until marriage until i meet my husband that i will marry okay but

00:21:15.100 so you're not waiting until marriage to have sex i mean i don't know i haven't decided that yet but

00:21:21.960 i'm not gonna like

00:21:23.860 be intimate dating if that makes sense until i'm with someone that i want to be with

00:21:31.600 okay but you're not necessarily waiting until marriage but you want to right you don't want

00:21:36.480 to just sleep with the guy on the first date yes exactly but so there's zero guys in the picture

00:21:41.200 zero zero nothing nothing we can ask a question sure okay so like since it sounds like there have

00:21:51.760 been guys in the past is this like more like a new choice type thing like you got to like

00:21:57.180 save some of that love for someone that's like really worth it well the people in the past have

00:22:02.160 been like long-term relationships

00:22:03.640 okay fair fair

00:22:08.180 word uh okay so when's the last time you've been on a date

00:22:13.740 like a couple months ago yeah wait are you

00:22:18.780 have you have you had sex before you virgin well i've been long-term relationships before

00:22:25.240 okay so i'm not a virgin

00:22:26.800 no that's fine i'm just

00:22:31.060 just curious okay

00:22:34.280 yeah

00:22:35.880 all right back

00:22:37.560 um yeah so i've been single for every year the last like real date i went on was yesterday

00:22:48.080 no um can you make that noise again please no

00:22:52.220 um was back in june of this year june last date was it just the first day and then that was it

00:23:01.560 we went on three dates and then when was the last date uh was it june

00:23:07.520 last date was july like mid july yeah and then haven't been on like an official date since then

00:23:15.640 an official date what about official dates um sneaky links

00:23:19.380 yeah yeah what's this what do you mean by sneaky link um

00:23:25.580 like someone you hook up with basically yeah is that pretty recent yes pretty recent not yesterday

00:23:34.800 like two weeks ago two weeks ago

00:23:39.260 mm-hmm yes was it the three-day guy no no wasn't him it was just different different guy

00:23:46.800 random dude not random previous sneaky links yes

00:23:52.120 um so okay so i guess it is kind of a situation ship but kind of um

00:24:02.240 it's new to me i i don't i've never dealt with like it's like it's with so it's with an old

00:24:10.880 ex and i've not i usually when i cut things off i cut it off so that's this is new for me

00:24:20.340 oh so he he did you reach back out or did he reach back he did word and then you took him back or

00:24:29.000 kind of kind of trying to figure things out right now it's all very new so okay yep all right uh so

00:24:39.520 are you gonna try to pursue things with this previous ex or i mean you said it was two weeks

00:24:44.020 ago you less on yeah um is it just sex

00:24:47.620 it's kind of like a i guess kind of like a friends with benefits thing oh this wasn't like the first

00:24:58.360 time you guys got back together no so it's just been kind of infrequent yes looking up type of thing

00:25:05.300 yes good times good times good times good times are you happy with that scenario um it's less than

00:25:14.240 ideal uh so i'm trying to right now put myself back out there and have options out there get

00:25:21.960 back out there get back out on the horse have some got to get back out there you got to you got

00:25:26.600 you got to uh violet what about you is that your real that's not your real name though is it no my

00:25:32.860 real name is elizabeth or lizzie okay i'll keep calling you violet go ahead um there's come on

00:25:39.800 there's a guy in the picture right violet you said you're single yes i'm single um until i'm ready to

00:25:46.040 you know get serious on relationships then i'll start looking but right now i'm just single and

00:25:53.480 having fun focusing on my career when do you plan on getting serious 28 28 28 do you think that you

00:26:01.960 would still be doing adult content by then or are you planning to quit that and then find a serious

00:26:07.860 relationship right now i see like i'll probably always be doing adult content in some way but if

00:26:16.020 i end up in a relationship where that's not like you know they're like hey stop doing that obviously

00:26:22.780 i would quit okay so have you you've been doing content since you're 18 you're now 23 at any point

00:26:32.240 were you in a i mean it says you never had a boyfriend in that entire period of time but maybe

00:26:38.200 you're dating a guy for a month two months three months have you had that no have you had sex with

00:26:45.840 a civilian in the past six years yes oh okay but you haven't had even like a situationship type of

00:26:54.120 thing i mean yeah i have people who i've hung out with for a long time and we'll translate what

00:27:00.160 hang out means um we're close like we have a close relationship and some of those people help me with

00:27:06.500 photography or some of my work and but you also you sleep with them too yes okay so depending on

00:27:14.680 like if i were to i'm wanting it to be for content and to get it on camera oh if you sleep with them

00:27:21.260 you want it to be recorded yes oh okay i see okay because it's kind of it's kind of playing a fantasy

00:27:29.160 for me like i like working the camera and i like when you're recording so what the fantasy is like a

00:27:37.860 what is it for your exhibitionist kind of sex exhibitionist okay you like to perform for the

00:27:46.860 camera yeah okay yeah okay got it uh so no relationships do you think is it because you

00:27:56.940 just haven't wanted a relationship or do you feel like the work that you've been doing has made it

00:28:01.840 difficult where where are you at on that yeah i just haven't had time to focus on a relationship

00:28:09.220 okay so but you said at 28 that's when you want to settle down you want to get married

00:28:14.420 yes i want to get married and have kids have kids how many kids do you want to have

00:28:18.880 i want four four do you think do you think it's going to be difficult finding a husband

00:28:26.080 uh because of the work you've done maybe i mean have you had any experiences with that like maybe

00:28:34.440 you're interested in a guy but he was maybe hesitant because he felt maybe uncomfortable that

00:28:40.060 you had been engaged in making adult content no i actually haven't come across that which is strange

00:28:48.140 you haven't no i haven't everyone is very even like oh it's because i'll come out of church sometimes

00:28:53.500 because i go to church with my grandma and like i have people coming out of church like can i get

00:28:57.140 a picture with you you know and so it's short yeah it's interesting like you really see like

00:29:05.340 different sides of people when you're kind of in sex work so you're what kind of church is

00:29:12.980 well i'm allowed at church guys i'm allowed to be there it's not doesn't just burn down when you

00:29:19.020 yeah i promise uh so you go to church and the church male church goers come up to you and they're

00:29:25.960 like yo what's up violet i fucking beat it to your i go to a catholic church so you know catholic

00:29:33.120 you go to fucking this shit's happening at a catholic church holy wouldn't you like expect it more

00:29:41.200 than like a christian church than a catholic i don't want to expect it at all to be honest at any

00:29:46.760 church i feel like catholics are pretty strict um you know yeah they're very are you catholic

00:29:53.860 you're catholic yes i grew up catholic um i moved away from my religion when i started doing this

00:30:01.900 but you still go to church back around to it oh you've come back yes yeah recently kind of come

00:30:05.920 back around how recently um a couple of years ago and i just was going through some things i

00:30:13.240 found my way back to god and yeah have you done a confession oh yes i have done confession i did one

00:30:19.800 a few months ago what did you say are you at liberty to share your confession no i'm not comfortable

00:30:26.180 saying here if i'll just turn this way pretend that i'm the what is it no i face him he faces me so

00:30:33.560 oh they yeah usually there's like a booth and there's like this kind of semi see-through screen

00:30:39.140 okay um it's a little more comfortable when you're facing them though awkward

00:30:43.340 so but you're catholic and you go to church like you're practicing right i go with my grandma i'm not

00:30:53.540 like full-on catholic or anything obviously like look at my lifestyle i'm not a full-on catholic i go with

00:30:59.120 my grandma and um i you know i pray i have a relationship with god but i'm not like a full-on

00:31:05.660 practicing catholic does your grandma know that you do adult content she knows my whole family knows and

00:31:11.540 we don't really talk about it you don't talk about it are you on good terms with your family yes love

00:31:16.840 my family okay and you go to catholic church with your grandma um does she like does she like elizabeth

00:31:26.740 you need to stop your philandering whoring ways does she say that shit to you no no she doesn't okay

00:31:35.960 how does she react to when you guys are at church and these people approach you asking for pictures

00:31:42.980 like does she um it's usually when i'm like not with her i'm like doing something by myself

00:31:48.220 it's no she knows that like people know me though my everyone in my family like know that people are

00:31:55.600 gonna come up to me and be like oh i know you and call me by a different name but they all support me

00:32:02.080 and i appreciate that because yeah what is i have a question what is your faith calling you to do

00:32:09.220 when it comes to your career my faith calling me to do is it calling you to stop doing adult content

00:32:18.380 um i think it's just telling me to do the best i can with what i have is that what god is telling

00:32:25.400 you to do are you a christian or catholic i'm a man of god let's just say but like i just how i'm

00:32:35.980 having difficulty and perhaps you can help me with this reconciling being catholic but also doing

00:32:42.920 adult content um i just think we're in a broken world and i was kind of born into that and i you were

00:32:52.880 born into what we were all born into a world of just like of sin of sin of you know media selling like

00:33:01.160 sex and i think i'm just kind of a product of that so what do you mean you're a product of it

00:33:07.220 like you were forced to do this no i'm just a product of my surroundings as i grew up

00:33:12.940 and i would where did you grow up texas texas but you can say that a lot of people were raised on

00:33:24.360 hollywood and media because we were throwing screens in front of our faces and i think that

00:33:29.700 like that influenced me a lot as a kid and so you're not wrong you're not wrong that there's

00:33:36.020 like a societal uh push to uh but uh okay all right good times did you have more

00:33:48.920 what was your question exactly well you said you're catholic right so i'm thinking

00:33:54.660 it's probably looked down upon within the faith to be engaged in sex work so

00:34:02.640 how do you reconcile i don't expect any christian or catholic to associate with me um but doing sex

00:34:10.720 work yeah i mean i think we all have our you know things we do you're a good business woman i see it

00:34:21.080 as like the equivalent of being like a drug dealer or something also like look at kim kardashian like

00:34:25.600 where do you think her fame came from yeah she did she did a sex tape yeah do you think that that's

00:34:33.320 something people should engage in in order to i'm not telling anyone oh you should live like me but

00:34:38.800 it's just what's been working for me and sure yeah uh quick question on your work uh my understanding

00:34:45.860 is i mean you accrued 13 million followers on your instagram it sounds to me like you were insanely

00:34:52.100 successful um can you tell us a little bit about uh maybe we can uh well we have a bit of time how much

00:35:00.460 how much do you say you you made in the six years you've been doing adult content

00:35:07.280 um seven figures yeah we could say wait yeah i would say seven figures and that's probably as

00:35:15.620 much as i'd go into were you making seven figures a year

00:35:19.080 i'm not really comfortable saying how much i've made how about have you in any year did you ever

00:35:27.460 make seven figures yes brian okay violet um what about you what about me well how much did you

00:35:36.860 how much did i how much did i make doing only fans no on your content creating podcasts

00:35:42.780 well i think it's an interesting question to ask someone who's involved in your kind of work because

00:35:48.400 you hear these reports of people making a seat like insane amounts of money like millions of

00:35:55.040 dollars i mean some of the outliers i know most women probably are not actually making that much

00:36:00.280 money doing only fans but i i think you're an outlier probably so you hear these stories of women

00:36:06.080 who make six figures a month some seven figures a month bad baby made 40 million in her first month or

00:36:12.400 or first year right something like that that's crazy uh you hear other stories of women making

00:36:18.720 millions of dollars a year so i think that's why it's kind of just an interesting question to

00:36:22.280 to ask but um okay so interesting okay um question for you guys do you guys think that hold on let me

00:36:31.300 just double check here oh okay do you guys think that hmm kind of related to her thing would you

00:36:39.480 prefer to date a guy who doesn't watch porn or watches porn or do you just not care like you wouldn't

00:36:44.960 care is there a man that doesn't watch porn yeah there's probably not i mean there's probably degrees

00:36:50.180 to it too there's guys who will watch it occasionally and then there's guys who are heavily addicted to

00:36:55.080 it so i mean honestly i see it as like it doesn't really matter all that much like i wouldn't think

00:37:02.740 about it like i watch pornography like there's nothing wrong with like watching porn okay yeah

00:37:08.300 um no porn i prefer a man who does not watch porn

00:37:14.620 uh it depends on how much he watches i guess average amount i guess two times a week let's say

00:37:27.240 two or three times a week then i think that's that's fine i can work with that violet what about you

00:37:37.240 yes in moderation okay madison i probably prefer a man that doesn't watch porn because i feel like it

00:37:45.600 just changes the way that they view sex perceive it and how they um like what they expect out of

00:37:53.760 sex in general okay uh do you get so kind of related to that because we've definitely heard things from a

00:38:02.740 lot of women who've been on the show before about how porn can they think it kind of changes how

00:38:10.120 a view a guy might view sex like madison just said or how they expectations of women or whatever or

00:38:16.620 they're just can it have an impact on sexual function but more broadly speaking do you guys

00:38:21.920 think that men are more feminine now than in days past

00:38:26.120 that's an extremely like difficult question because i feel like um over like the last like couple years

00:38:35.700 since being in college um a lot of the men that i found myself with i would say potentially might have

00:38:44.620 like estrogen or not estrogen problems but like testosterone issues i don't know okay if that makes

00:38:52.340 sense so i don't know what you mean by feminine like that kind of feminine like biologically feminine

00:38:59.440 or like act feminine i mean kind of both i guess you could say but because i like you like what i like

00:39:07.480 fruity boys like you like fruity men yes okay yes i do okay uh okay what about you um i do do you think

00:39:17.920 men are more feminine now than in days past yeah okay one million percent yes they're more feminine

00:39:23.860 now weren't before the show you were saying guys are no longer what masculine what's the other word

00:39:30.160 you used beta they're more beta now they're not they're not alpha anyway right yeah well and we can get

00:39:36.920 into that a little later what about you i think men are expressing more of their feminine side now i'm not sure

00:39:49.180 i guess that would make them more feminine so okay yeah violet yes madison i guess i would say

00:39:59.020 men are given the capacity to be more vulnerable and sensitive which i feel like does tie to femininity

00:40:09.420 in some sort of ways so yeah okay now do you guys prefer masculine men or feminine men i feel like

00:40:17.580 also oh sorry no go ahead go ahead i feel like saying masculine over feminine is like not necessarily

00:40:23.160 the proper term i like to say what do you mean people that are more human beings like just like

00:40:29.100 acting like a human less like a gender role that literally made no fucking sense i said you know it

00:40:38.240 makes sense in my head you know it's like sometimes you meet someone and they're like trying to be like

00:40:42.140 super barley and tough or they're trying to act like a barbie but it's like if you're just like a human

00:40:47.200 being like for example men have like a higher suicide rate than like females do just say delete

00:40:55.440 can i not say that just say delete themselves go ahead okay sorry just go ahead sorry um but like i

00:41:02.060 don't know i know like because of gender norms and stuff like men get very isolated in their emotions

00:41:08.400 and stuff and i think now that we're in like a more accepting society because like females have always

00:41:13.220 had outlets like better socialization so i feel like it's what you're calling feminine is more just

00:41:20.320 more humanness so you're saying masculine men are inhuman and feminine men are human

00:41:27.180 no i would say there are feminine and masculine men but i would say like

00:41:31.780 masculinity masculinity femininity is that men are since they're they're more accepted or whatever

00:41:44.940 they're allowed to be more emotional aka human yes and i feel like that's what she's trying to say yes

00:41:52.160 okay okay um but so the question is though do you prefer masculine men or feminine men because just

00:42:03.200 earlier you said you prefer what is it girly guy i forgot what you said fruity fruity men

00:42:09.480 so you prefer like if you had a choice between a masculine guy and a more feminine guy which do you prefer

00:42:15.880 can we just like come back to no but you already you almost already answered it like with the fruity

00:42:28.220 boys it's like it doesn't necessarily mean they're not masculine it just means they like so they're

00:42:33.180 wearing a dress but and they're talking with a sort of a fet manner and then also like pearls look hot

00:42:40.080 on a man just saying like that's a good look wait girls look hot on a man no no pearls pearls yeah

00:42:47.740 and some people would be like oh that's like like earrings yeah necklaces a pearl necklace on a dude

00:42:54.560 yes okay all right to each their own i guess i'm a little more feminine okay masculine you prefer

00:43:03.180 masculine then what about you definitely masculine masculine yeah masculine with a beard 100 masculine

00:43:12.840 madison what about you i said 100 masculine okay um all right what do you guys last question on this

00:43:27.100 one what do you think about masculinity good neutral bad what do you think about

00:43:32.680 masculinity it's good start with you we'll go around you know you had a very like yes this is what i like

00:43:41.980 um she's speaking to my god i mean it depends on i would say i'm not necessarily a fan of masculinity i feel

00:43:53.420 like well like i mean there's there's levels of it like i would say in moderation is that a good

00:44:01.760 masculinity and moderation yes you're not a fan of masculinity what does that mean what do you mean

00:44:09.540 by that i mean like i'm gonna be all barley or like barley and stuff like drinking beers to feel like

00:44:18.280 a man is that i don't think is that what masculinity is well not like necessarily that but i i don't know

00:44:26.380 besides the beer chugging thing is there any well like you i don't know i feel like like there's toxic

00:44:33.760 masculinity and i feel like that's usually when i look at a person i'm like okay that like the

00:44:38.780 masculinity is showing you know that's why i'm like in moderation wait so you're saying when masculinity

00:44:43.360 is apparent or showing that equals toxic masculinity no it's just sometimes it's like

00:44:50.680 a little excessive and that's usually when i like notice it what is excessive masculinity

00:44:57.760 you know like can we just like loop around no we got it keep going we got you we got you keep going

00:45:05.880 um i don't know it's just like you know like oh i need this like big old car it's like okay

00:45:12.100 you're compensating for something compensating for what a lot of things i can tell you that much

00:45:17.700 list it list it list it i mean probably like their low self-esteem and maybe their tiny dicks

00:45:26.500 can i say that sure okay tiny dicks so men who want nice cars have tiny dicks no not necessarily

00:45:34.680 it's it's mostly that's what i mean like in moderation it's like everyone wants a nice car

00:45:39.400 but it's like how you how you write it how you do it you know

00:45:41.980 so do women who want nice cars do they have loose pussies no they got taste

00:45:49.940 oh so it's only it's only bad when men it's only bad if men have a desire for material goods

00:45:58.700 no oh no it's um like i said like it's how you how you write it so it's like when a man is like

00:46:06.340 trying so hard to seem like a dude that's like excessive it's like an ego thing yeah like it's

00:46:13.320 like ego it's like it's the same with like the beers it's like i know a lot of guys that what

00:46:17.860 like beers like chugging beers yeah because like i know a lot of guys that like will drink a lot of

00:46:23.880 beer or will only drink beer around other men because they want to look like a man i actually

00:46:28.980 think on the beer thing really quick not that it's entire super related to dating but uh gentlemen

00:46:33.720 beer has hops and that will produce uh i believe that'll produce estrogen in you so don't drink

00:46:39.760 beer um if you're going to be a man i don't drink at all i don't know don't drink beer it has hops in

00:46:48.060 it it i think it it the byproduct of that will produce estrogen in you go ahead with well you're

00:46:55.320 saying teeny dicks toxic masculinity which i by the way i don't believe there is toxic masculinity

00:47:00.680 okay that's a very hot take that there's not toxic masculinity yeah i feel like most people would

00:47:08.140 100 disagree with that i don't believe i don't believe that there's we need to attach gender

00:47:17.240 to toxicity i think people are just toxic i don't think we need to like oh

00:47:23.920 like is there toxic femininity yes okay yeah potentially yes can't there just be can't you

00:47:31.980 just say toxic it's just such a loaded word that i feel like you might mean it some way but people

00:47:38.120 are going to take it in the way that it's just a blanket attack on masculinity can i like masculinity

00:47:44.480 is inherently toxic you know well it's not inherently toxic again but when you say toxic masculinity

00:47:51.420 without clarification i think people are going to assume she means all masculinity is toxic well i

00:47:59.660 could go into like biopsychology right now and like spew out statistics but last time that got bleeped so

00:48:04.400 i'm gonna like can i hot potato this like you said okay well we can come yeah we'll come back to it

00:48:10.140 go ahead yeah um all for masculine men okay uh what about you yes for masculinity i think that's

00:48:20.100 what's missing this world right now and it's much needed okay becca is that true for rebecca it is

00:48:28.300 makes sense okay what do you think of masculinity i think um masculinity needs to be yeah needs to be

00:48:44.300 expressed just as much as femininity and i think masculinity can include um the traits that maybe

00:48:53.960 aren't typically associated with masculinity like vulnerability and emotionality okay we'll come

00:49:02.500 back we'll come back to the vulnerability topic later um violet what about you yes necessary necessary okay

00:49:11.980 madison i think masculinity is great i think men were born to be masculine for a reason but i do feel

00:49:20.000 like the term and the definition masculinity has been so deformed nowadays like you were like giving out

00:49:27.540 examples like drinking beer makes a man and things like that like that's definitely not what true

00:49:33.120 masculinity means as in like being a protector being provider so i feel like that really takes away

00:49:39.560 the man and men which is why it's so like it's not it's not real anymore that was beautiful that was

00:49:48.580 beautiful madison thank you well i'm i mean i'm definitely concerned about the ongoing feminization

00:49:54.200 of men there's a blatant attack i think on masculinity and there there is a rapid decline in testosterone

00:50:03.380 levels and i think it definitely serves our government corporate overlords to have a bunch of weakened feminine

00:50:10.540 men they're way easier to control um and i do think our our environment it's filled with like estrogenic

00:50:18.720 chemicals plastics junk food uh we have lived very sedentary lifestyles i'm and i fall into it too

00:50:26.460 um but i think the media like in its quest to reshape society loves to just demonize normal

00:50:33.880 masculine men labeling them as toxic as she said toxic masculinity um and we can we can certainly

00:50:39.960 have a discussion on that um and uh let's see it's uh yeah i mean the testosterone level has been

00:50:47.440 declining for decades i guess they're tracking it somehow sperm count and strength in men like

00:50:52.880 also decreasing exponentially and apparently i think i'm i'm like probably 90 of this next

00:51:00.680 statistics there's a striking reduction in grip strength among young men look at these fucking

00:51:06.320 dainty gamer hands it's all my fault um i'm probably the blame for that um so i'm yeah i'm trying to turn

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00:52:24.560 supplements dot com slash whatever link is in the description all right thank you guys so toxic

00:52:30.200 masculinity let's talk about that you said you wanted for us to come back to you okay well going

00:52:38.220 around the table i have like now some more thoughts also like with your little promotional thing i would

00:52:43.900 ask men to please take those instead of illegal testosterone that's not prescribed because that

00:52:49.040 can cause heart failure um just a side note but like for example i know some men would do that out of

00:52:56.720 trying to be more manly i think that's what i mean by toxic masculinity is like like you were saying

00:53:02.840 it's like masculinity is like a natural thing but how it's like now defined is changed and i think it's like

00:53:10.740 more when men are overly trying hard to be more of a man like you shouldn't have to try to be a man you

00:53:20.880 should just either you should just be you you know just be you yes okay yeah uh okay um

00:53:30.900 let me ask so okay i hear this term all the time toxic masculinity right i i rarely ever hear discussions

00:53:40.660 of toxic femininity although you admit it is a thing although i never hear it in the discourse when

00:53:46.920 people say toxic masculinity doesn't mean masculinity is toxic if you could separate the toxicity from

00:53:55.380 masculinity what would be left that's not a gender neutral trait

00:54:00.340 being kind wait what wait what's not a gender neutral trait wait i thought it was a gender neutral

00:54:10.380 trait so this is the so like my my position is that i don't believe in the term toxic femininity i don't

00:54:16.460 believe the term toxic masculinity i think people can just be toxic regardless of your gender and i

00:54:22.780 don't think it's particularly helpful to use these terms because i think it tends to demonize typically

00:54:28.700 men because you very rarely hear the term toxic femininity and it demonizes masculinity so my question is

00:54:35.460 if toxic masculinity does not mean that masculinity is toxic if you can separate the toxicity from

00:54:43.900 masculinity what would be left that's not a gender neutral trait

00:54:48.080 i still like this all just sounds like word salad i'm so confused by what you're saying i'm so sorry

00:54:55.800 okay what is what is something that men do that is toxic that is exclusively something that

00:55:02.600 just men do essentially i mean there's a lot that makes a lot of sense but okay okay um i know we

00:55:10.700 were discussing this a little bit before this but like for example if you go to like the biology of

00:55:17.420 like human attraction it's like women do look for men that have resources and i guess you can also like

00:55:22.960 tie this into toxic femininity is a lot of women will almost some some women will abuse men for their

00:55:32.180 resources but some men will kind of use that as like a weapon in a sense it's like what do you mean

00:55:39.380 use what their resources as a weapon yes what they like will buy a girl a purse and throw it at her

00:55:48.360 what are you talking about well there's also like sometimes you can like you know guilt trip people

00:55:52.500 with that stuff or sometimes you can make someone so dependent on you like dependent on someone's

00:55:57.600 resources i feel like this is getting really off topic i have no idea like no but i'm trying the

00:56:03.580 the conversation was about masculinity you referenced toxic masculinity so i'm trying to get at what you

00:56:09.920 what precisely you mean when you say toxic masculinity because i'm arguing the position that i don't believe

00:56:16.220 there's toxic masculinity you said whoa you had a big reaction you're like that's a hot take that there's

00:56:22.080 not toxic masculinity so i'm asking you to provide evidence for the toxic masculinity that you assert

00:56:28.500 exists okay going see i can't use a lot of what i can very well argue without it getting bleeped

00:56:38.840 out are you talking about delete people deleting themselves no are you talking about sa for example

00:56:46.500 i'll try to use soft terms here as far as mental health and stuff it's sometimes toxic masculinity

00:56:55.740 doesn't so much i'm not referring to

00:56:58.540 man i don't know how to say anything without like triggering things or who are you gonna who's

00:57:08.460 gonna be triggered no it's okay words that we can't use yes okay all right fine i mean that sounds like

00:57:17.220 a cop-out but okay um last i mean i guess another question for you questions for you on this um do you

00:57:24.080 believe in like some of these other terms like do you think mansplaining is a thing

00:57:27.040 i mean i like to use that term all the time like i i get caught up in mansplaining to men a lot of

00:57:34.400 the times and i laugh at myself oh yeah it's just like the over explanation it's also funny like when

00:57:40.420 you tell a guy something and then they turn around and tell you exactly what you just told them but then

00:57:45.840 they like break it down and it's like well i i was the one that just told you that like very clearly i

00:57:51.760 okay understand do you do you let me ask you a question do you think toxic masculinity is a sexist

00:57:57.680 term no do you think toxic whiteness would be a racist term no do you think toxic blackness would

00:58:07.120 be a racist thing to say i don't know whoa fuck jesus christ i clicked the wrong button do you do you

00:58:18.760 think toxic asianness is would be a racist thing to say i mean man okay i am not in a position

00:58:27.580 to i've never heard those terms would it be but do you think it would be racist to say that there's

00:58:35.060 toxic blackness

00:58:36.400 well yeah i don't do you think you'd be raised do you think you'd be right hold on

00:58:44.260 do you think it would be racist to say toxic whiteness well in all my arguments with toxic

00:58:51.420 masculinity i feel like a lot of toxic whiteness kind of plays into that so i can't really say

00:58:56.960 wait toxic whiteness no keep it on her please do you think toxic whiteness

00:59:02.380 plays into toxic masculinity is there toxic heterosexualness yes

00:59:11.900 okay um you're like literally making me sweat like with this it's a little stuffy in here i mean

00:59:22.220 the doors aren't open well like speaking of which nick if you could let a little air in please um

00:59:26.840 wait so okay metaphorical hot potatoes making me feel like a hot potato okay okay but so just to

00:59:36.260 clarify uh-huh toxic whiteness uh-huh not racist

00:59:41.100 actual thing toxic whiteness

00:59:45.300 i've is it okay to say like since i'm white i'm allowed to think that i don't think that's an

00:59:52.580 argument i don't know um well just statistically in the united states there can i say that

00:59:59.000 oh so okay just toxic whiteness is just a u.s thing actually no i take that back you can like

01:00:08.140 go through the colonial powers like yeah you know what i don't know what you're asking great word

01:00:13.940 was it a good word to throw on the colonial colonialism yes thank you yeah i just gave you a

01:00:20.140 lay up there yeah see this is you're welcome yes thank you i'm bad with words that was needed

01:00:25.620 okay so there's there's toxic whiteness yes but and that's not racist no but toxic blackness

01:00:36.200 is that racist

01:00:37.600 no i think that's just like not a

01:00:41.820 thing i don't know okay what about toxic latino-ness

01:00:47.780 no i don't know toxic asian-ness no i don't know i'm looking at this like

01:00:54.520 okay okay okay all right all right what are you getting at

01:00:59.320 oh that's like triggering it's bringing me back to like middle school like middle school yeah when

01:01:09.060 you're gonna go to like have to learn how to type and like the little labs i was so bad at that i'm

01:01:13.260 sorry the windows oh the noise thing okay i triggered you with my windows read boot sound

01:01:21.000 yes okay good times okay um so man's is mansplaining sexist

01:01:26.260 it's funny mansplaining is funny um is woman-splaining

01:01:31.680 sexist would that be a sexist thing to say what are your woman-splaining right now well when i refer to

01:01:37.820 myself mansplaining i've had men refer to it as like no actually you're woman-splaining

01:01:42.060 so i'm just like i don't know but it's woman-splaining sexist

01:01:45.560 like do you think that'd be a sexist thing i just consider it like an urban dictionary term

01:01:49.540 okay is that allowed is white what about white-splaining is that racist

01:01:53.100 i've i've never heard this before also i feel like

01:01:57.480 comparing masculinity and race is just like so completely

01:02:02.280 i i yeah look i i what i'm trying to get at is i like to use the hate speech test

01:02:11.140 and if you replace the second word with other groups and if it's either racist or sexist

01:02:16.960 then it's probably not appropriate to say about by the way nick that was just a temporary thing

01:02:21.300 um so for example if toxic like if you replace that second word so toxic blank and you replace

01:02:29.180 it with another group and you determine that it's either racist or sexist or anything it's

01:02:33.940 probably not appropriate to say about men or white people hey thank you robin thank you brother

01:02:39.040 but on another note i'm pretty sure the septum piercing girl she doesn't look happy with symbols

01:02:44.720 playing on repeat in her head not a thought no she's doing good guys guys be nice thank you robin

01:02:50.760 appreciate you have a response to robin you sounds like my dad robin's your dad do you want to you

01:02:56.840 can roast him back like if they roast you feel free to roast back like it's cool you know what my dad

01:03:01.120 told me the other day he's like the human brain's eight pounds and i told him mine was 10 and he's

01:03:05.360 like yeah with just all that hollow space your dad and me would probably get along yeah yeah your dad's

01:03:11.420 legend hey you know what there's there's thoughts that's a good example of like masculine not like

01:03:18.020 masculinity but like you know chaos and order they're both necessary so we're like femininity

01:03:23.220 and masculinity you know men are just gonna like be more straightforward than women exactly

01:03:28.060 also oh yeah yeah but it's necessary like you we need that like straightforwardness in life but we

01:03:35.740 also need like the comforting of a woman yeah i think that's why i said masculinity is necessary

01:03:41.220 also it like reminds me a lot of like negative and positive empathy i guess that's a good example

01:03:46.120 of maybe perhaps toxic masculinity is like in relationships you need both negative and positive

01:03:52.940 empathy and they say that positive empathy is more important word but i feel like potentially men seek

01:03:59.760 out more positive empathy than negative empathy and then assume that females need more negative empathy

01:04:06.460 than positive empathy does that count hmm huh i kind of get that yeah yeah can somebody translate

01:04:14.920 that shit for me i have okay cool because a woman is always gonna be more who here believes in who

01:04:20.580 here believes in toxic masculinity it's okay it's all right i don't hate you for if you do becca

01:04:28.360 she doesn't want to argue okay all right there you have it folks uh i got some you guys were so

01:04:34.140 kind as to provide some pre-show notes for us so i'm gonna go over some of those pre-show notes

01:04:39.260 so let's see we have uh who do we start with we'll start with becca you wanted to talk about

01:04:47.480 situationships in the male female dynamic and dating hot take you can be highly feminist independent woman

01:04:53.800 but still need to have a man take the lead yeah so do you consider yourself highly feminist and an

01:05:02.260 independent woman um i would definitely say i am pretty independent highly independent um feminist

01:05:14.100 i'm not sure how feminist i am i guess compared sorry you make fun of me just looking up the sky

01:05:22.260 you're just okay that's how i think i look up there i do that too i do that too i just had to roast a

01:05:26.800 little bit okay um yeah i guess in terms of feminist um i guess now you're gonna be self-conscious

01:05:34.260 yeah i know um so i will look right here um right at the microphone i guess when it comes to feminists

01:05:43.500 like are you a feminist i would say yes hardcore feminist i would say no radical feminist no not

01:05:50.360 radical are you a turf i don't i don't know what that is turf trans exclusionary trans exclusionary

01:05:58.380 radical feminist oh i yeah i don't know um that's a doozy that's a that's a doozy okay i didn't take

01:06:05.600 enough classes in college um so you're you do you consider yourself highly feminist um because you say

01:06:11.360 hot take you can be highly feminist independent woman but still need to have a man take the lead

01:06:15.360 so you're highly feminist yes you consider yourself a independent woman yes okay but still

01:06:23.040 need to have a man take the lead when you say have the man take the lead what do you mean by that

01:06:27.560 i mean like i think for a guy to be in his like masculine energy like there does need to be that

01:06:37.260 um he kind of takes the lead and and you know whatever that looks like you know what does that

01:06:46.480 well you tell us okay i will tell you um do it i will tell you now right now okay whenever you're

01:06:53.280 ready okay i will you're so ready i'm so ready i came prepared um taking the lead would be

01:07:03.320 like him making the first move um wait can i help out here a little bit okay sure approaching

01:07:09.460 sending the first message carrying leading the conversation soliciting a first date soliciting

01:07:14.020 your number setting up the date carrying leading the conversation on the date paying for the paying

01:07:18.500 for the date soliciting a change of venue perhaps soliciting subsequent dates and the setup and financial

01:07:24.920 responsibility for said dates moving things forward physically closing the distance gap going for the

01:07:30.260 first kiss and moving things forward even further from there physically and sexually speaking yeah can

01:07:37.260 you send me that list do you want to send it to one of your guide friends sure get on it yeah no yeah

01:07:45.020 that that all sounds like the guy taking the the lead so yes um so i think probably the easiest

01:07:55.640 conversational thread that we can go on this you say you're a highly feminist independent woman

01:08:01.940 who do you think on the first date should pay i would say the man okay we'll go around the table

01:08:10.360 on this we'll start uh we'll start with you then we'll go around go ahead rachel whoever asked the

01:08:14.860 other person out on the date whoever asks should pay okay what about you the man the man okay violet

01:08:22.980 the man the man should pay okay man it's thin the man the man so just to address your thing really

01:08:30.200 quick whoever asked should pay um i want to go around the table on this again more often than not

01:08:36.000 are you asking guys out or are guys asking you out go ahead

01:08:39.160 have you ever asked a guy out oh yeah oh yeah more often than not though is it more so the guy asking

01:08:48.660 you or are you asking the guy i mean i don't remember the last time i've asked a guy out on a

01:08:52.420 date so like i would say now it's more highly concentrated with men doing it okay what about

01:08:58.220 you definitely them they ask what about you the man asks have you ever asked a guy out no yeah i'm

01:09:04.820 trying to think if i've ever asked a guy out

01:09:06.660 no i have not how many first dates do you think you've been on um ballpark it yeah just range

01:09:18.540 60 i was running the numbers 60 60 okay beautiful 60 first dates all the 60 first dates

01:09:31.000 they asked you is that correct correct maybe there was one you kind of suggest okay violet

01:09:38.420 what about you oh my gosh i'm blanking what about the question yeah uh more more often than not are

01:09:47.320 you who's asking who on the first date is it the guy or you the guy yeah have you ever asked a guy

01:09:51.840 out on a date uh in fourth grade well come to think of it actually violet okay never mind we don't have

01:09:59.400 to go there um madison what about you i've only ever been on two proper first dates but i asked

01:10:06.440 the first one and then my second first proper date it was the man asking well let's remove the

01:10:12.360 proper dates from this and let's include like uh just more casual hangouts who's initiating the

01:10:19.500 casual hangout the guy or you the guy more so but i would too right so on the whole like whoever

01:10:25.660 asks should pay it's conveniently ignores the fact that men are overwhelmingly initiators so

01:10:34.300 if your standard is okay that whoever asked should pay for the first date well you might as well just

01:10:40.680 say men because men overwhelmingly are the ones asking for first dates

01:10:44.900 so that that like this whole idea of like well whoever asked should pay would make kind of sense

01:10:53.180 if there was some degree of equality when it came to initiative but there isn't equality when it comes

01:11:01.140 to who takes more initiative when it comes to dating i can say the advice my dad gave me in fifth

01:11:08.440 grade which are tell us men are pathetic and have low self-esteem and as a female if you ask them out

01:11:15.460 or give them a compliment like it it you're making wonders for them well yeah that's true because most men

01:11:25.960 never have the experience of a woman asking them out so they'll probably remember that shit like if you

01:11:31.060 ask an average guy out on date that will probably you'll remember that for the rest of his life whereas most

01:11:35.760 women you get i mean some women get out asked out so frequently they don't even remember it later

01:11:41.740 that day it makes them feel special and everyone wants to feel special it's like that's also why

01:11:47.380 females like when men approach and they don't necessarily want to approach men is because like

01:11:50.900 it feels good and also asking someone out is like extremely terrifying for a lot of people

01:11:56.300 especially men it's like not just especially men actually no so what you're saying is that women are

01:12:02.060 privileged uh no i would say of course they are okay well yes but you're in the privileged position

01:12:10.900 of never having to get off your ass to put in any effort into the beginning of a relationship i mean

01:12:18.140 yeah that's true you just allow men to approach you you get to pick them amongst all the men that

01:12:23.240 show initiative i mean yeah that's true i've had a lot of guys complain you don't risk rejection

01:12:28.760 yeah really um so i don't know why i brought it there but uh so okay we're okay this was the first

01:12:38.020 uh who pays oh i was just addressing the well whoever i should pay but it yes conveniently ignores

01:12:45.960 the fact that men by default are initiators de facto are initiators so um convenient uh you said that

01:12:53.260 the guy should pay but you said that you're a highly feminist independent woman so how do you

01:13:00.380 reconcile being a feminist claiming to be an independent woman but still needing to have the man

01:13:06.660 take the lead and pay for the first date that's yeah that's a good question um i think you

01:13:16.740 can or for me um feel like i think it kind of comes down to the guy i feel like most guys on average want

01:13:30.840 to be the one to pay or to feel in control and or have that ability to provide so sure you're you're not

01:13:43.180 wrong like i think uh there is a large proportion of men that are prepared to pay for the first date

01:13:48.500 they're gonna pay for it they're happy to do it um but that doesn't really answer my question because

01:13:55.320 would you if a guy let's say you go on a date with a guy okay and uh the waiter comes do you guys want

01:14:04.480 anything else and he's like no no we're good can you get two checks please would you haven't would

01:14:08.600 you object to the guy asking for two checks i that i would be kind of confused and i mean

01:14:18.520 maybe if i'm not being confrontational i would pay my pay the tab and then there probably wouldn't be

01:14:29.160 a second date why wouldn't there be a second date would you lose attraction for him or

01:14:33.680 yeah yeah i think i would kind of be off put by that and and not

01:14:41.580 maybe i would ask him about it later be like why did you want to split the tab

01:14:49.420 and see what he says but so if if it came down to it you guys end up splitting the bill

01:14:59.520 is that that's a pretty that's a strong negative for you yeah just because in the past i've i've had

01:15:08.500 guys go out of their way to make sure like even before like i never even see the bill come to the

01:15:15.300 table like they make sure it's paid for ahead of time so i've had that treatment and enjoyed that

01:15:21.480 so i think i don't know maybe i've been spoiled well i mean it's it's a holdover of

01:15:32.760 chivalrous traditional male behavior when it comes to male men paying for the first dates i guess my

01:15:40.740 whole qualm with men paying for the first date is you ought to only pay for a woman if she also

01:15:48.080 adheres to or believes in traditional she considers herself traditional because to me it's like

01:15:55.740 you can't be feminist until the check comes like if you believe in gender equality then you shouldn't

01:16:04.860 like and because if we're talking about

01:16:07.140 how do i explain you cannot recoil at the very idea of gender roles but then expect men to pay

01:16:16.200 because men paying is a gender role so you can't just throw out and discard all the gender roles

01:16:23.320 that have to do with you but then expect the man to still abide by every gender role that applies to

01:16:29.780 him no yeah no i see your point so if you want to be like you said a highly feminist independent woman

01:16:38.000 enlightened progressive feminist woman who doesn't believe in gender roles and that men and women are

01:16:43.800 exactly the same then shouldn't you pay for your own meal yeah that is fair i

01:16:49.400 i guess it comes down well yeah because i do believe in gender roles and then i guess

01:16:58.860 with feminine or being a feminist it's wanting that equality with gender roles so but then at the end

01:17:09.760 of the day i i with the logic of me wanting the guy to pay that would be me wanting gender roles

01:17:17.540 why so do you um do you believe in the patriarchy is the patriarchy a thing and rachel can chime in on

01:17:25.560 this too um patriarchy um i believe that for history sake um that the world has been typically dominated by

01:17:44.100 men in um place of in areas of control and leadership

01:17:54.500 but there are cultures that are more matriarchal matriarchal okay sure um well i guess my question

01:18:04.960 is why do you support a patriarchal traditional belief of men paying for a woman's time yeah like

01:18:13.060 isn't that kind of the patriarchy like aren't you reinforcing the patriarchy

01:18:16.560 by holding men to this very traditional gender role but you're a highly feminist independent woman

01:18:24.800 yeah um yeah i guess

01:18:29.380 i mean i've been in situations where i did offer to pay the bill in this is were you just not interested

01:18:38.240 in the guy though no i was the one instance i'm thinking of i was very interested in the guy but you

01:18:43.760 said you've had like what 50 60 dates first dates yes with so okay with different men um yes so there's

01:18:51.780 one time that you offered to pay the bill but you're a strong independent feminist woman yeah yeah

01:18:57.980 um i was i think i i didn't i was lacking in self-confidence and didn't feel like i wanted

01:19:12.040 him to feel the pressure of to buy the meal for me but you were lacking in self-confidence it was when

01:19:19.000 i was like i don't know 19 you were 19 i was young okay so but it sounds pretty clear to me if a guy

01:19:29.760 asked to split the bill let me ask if okay before the date yeah i feel like this wouldn't be an organic

01:19:36.080 way to go about it but if a guy was like hey are you cool with splitting the bill and he was asking

01:19:41.280 you to go to dinner i feel like that that would be kind of cringe a little bit but um would you just

01:19:48.060 say never mind on the date for the date when you otherwise were interested in going yeah um

01:19:54.100 shoot um i guess i would i guess i would still go on the date and and pay the tab

01:20:03.920 split split yeah do you like expect men to pay for every date say you went on a date with one

01:20:14.120 guy and you kept seeing him after do you expect him to pay for every single date say you really

01:20:18.140 really liked him that's a good question madison so beyond the first date would you like a guy to

01:20:23.960 continue paying for dates i guess it would the first few dates and then first few days and then

01:20:31.200 after that we could have the conversation of like hey there would be a conversation yeah if i saw it

01:20:38.300 you know going somewhere and we wanted to keep dating because i i guess i i don't want that pressure of

01:20:45.240 the being the financial provider hold on but we're talking about splitting the bill yes so why you're not

01:20:52.160 being the financial provider you're just equally contributing to the start of the relationship

01:20:57.160 the provider would be i'm paying for the whole thing

01:21:00.800 yeah okay so i feel like i've been like if you really did really like the guy like i feel like

01:21:08.460 i've been in multiple situations where it's like oh like hey do you mind paying for yours i'll just pay

01:21:12.780 for myself and i feel like it's something that you can easily look past especially if you're super

01:21:17.360 duper interested in this guy unless you expect him to pay every single time you're just seeking for

01:21:23.120 financial or seeking for money and for him to provide for you all the time but like are you

01:21:29.680 really all that independent if that's what's all that you're looking for in a guy yeah okay so

01:21:36.200 you said you want the guy to pay for at least the first few dates how many when you say first few you

01:21:41.980 mean two three four three yeah two to three three to four and then you would want to have a

01:21:49.100 conversation about moving forward is that is that a conversation you would bring up or he

01:21:55.680 let me ask you you said your longest relationship was two years correct yes in that two-year relationship

01:22:04.220 was it did it become 50 50 at any point or did were you guys living together what was the

01:22:11.020 uh we weren't living together we we did get to a point after like i'd say like four or five dates

01:22:19.040 where i'm pretty sure i brought it up like hey like i can i can pay for a date and then you could

01:22:28.740 pay for a date and then it kind of became what's that called like trading off or whatever yeah that

01:22:33.660 way it's not like we got to split the bill every time and keep track of every penny well okay but

01:22:41.080 so eventually in your two-year relationship it was like switching turns taking turns yeah how long

01:22:50.960 did it take to get to that point was he was he for the guy you dated for two years was he paying for

01:22:56.860 the first dates first couple of dates yeah how long until how many dates did you go on until it's

01:23:03.280 switched i would say four four four four and then it's something he brought up or you brought up

01:23:09.260 i believe i brought it up because i you begrud did you begrudgingly be like i guess i kind of like you

01:23:18.800 do you want me to start paying um i don't think it was begrudgingly i wanted to be with him and i

01:23:27.680 i guess i didn't want him to think i was only in it for to be paid for what do you think it changes

01:23:36.020 about a man if he starts paying for the first couple dates then you guys split things or just

01:23:41.040 split things initially hmm um do you think it really changes anything about the way you see them

01:23:49.240 hmm um i don't i i would say i i would like to have the conversation with them and um

01:24:09.580 gosh um i would just say like if it doesn't change anything about them then what's the point

01:24:21.480 of starting off yes yeah starting off them paying for everything versus splitting the tab

01:24:27.680 um i guess it wouldn't make that much of a difference if i'm really interested in them

01:24:35.100 yeah and they like let's say they really can't like pay for the whole meal or whatever but okay

01:24:41.100 so you said that you're a highly feminist independent woman yet you expect men to not

01:24:47.500 only pay for the first date but pay for two three four i assume you'd probably prefer you'd prefer if

01:24:55.300 the guy just continued providing indefinitely i assumed that'd be preferable yes okay so i just how

01:25:04.400 do you reconcile being a feminist being independent because that word means something yes but having

01:25:11.320 like a very very strong preference to the point where if a guy didn't pay for you on the first date

01:25:17.200 he has to split you would not want to have a second date how do you reconcile that

01:25:20.980 um i i guess i just would think that it's

01:25:32.580 at the end of the day i would want him to

01:25:37.440 i guess that's the the trade-off with considering myself a feminist independent woman is that i still

01:25:48.500 believe there are gender roles and that i want the guy to feel like he's

01:25:53.020 in like he's still in his masculine energy so

01:26:00.620 i don't know mental gymnastics

01:26:04.180 i mean that's what it sounds like that's what it sounds like but uh

01:26:09.760 i mean it sounds to me like you want equality only when it benefits you

01:26:14.700 i mean the guy paying for the first date the guy holding let me ask you when do you want to get

01:26:21.640 married yes eventually would you be uh will you take your husband's last name

01:26:27.700 oh um keep it i i do the hyphen thing

01:26:36.420 okay um who has final say when it comes to household decisions

01:26:44.080 who's the head of the household

01:26:46.460 shoot yeah and i i would love it for to be both of us

01:26:56.560 but this is exactly what i'm talking about equality only when it benefits you

01:27:01.160 so you want to you want a guy to adhere to his traditional gender roles lead pay for the first

01:27:06.660 date but you don't want to adhere to you what would be a very traditional thing tradition taking

01:27:12.760 the man's last name in the case of marriage that is traditionally what women do

01:27:16.800 yeah i don't have an issue with hyphenation but you best pay for your own way on a first date

01:27:23.480 if you're about that hyphenation shit you should pay for your you should pay you should try to

01:27:28.820 initiate at comparable levels that's my thing okay you you want all the benefits of traditional

01:27:34.260 treatment from men but you yourself you don't want to be a traditional woman so we got a lot of women

01:27:39.380 who are feminist who love traditional treatment from men because traditional treatment benefits women

01:27:45.360 but you guys don't want to be traditional women because i suppose in some ways not being traditional

01:27:54.600 comes to your benefit don't you think that's a bit selfish

01:27:58.040 do you have a response or should i move on

01:28:09.240 you can where are you thinking i'm i'll give you more time to think okay um

01:28:15.000 i guess in a way it is me being selfish if i'm if i am not taking or if i'm expecting these things of

01:28:25.480 men and claiming to be wanting gender equality but then i don't want it when it's on my side

01:28:31.600 so you want traditional treatment but you yeah you don't want to take your husband's last name

01:28:36.700 i didn't say you don't want him you but what's funny is forget the who should pay shit that's kind of

01:28:42.600 small yeah you said that you want a man to be a leader right but you don't want a man to be head

01:28:49.260 of household that's a big deal to me okay you want a man to lead but you don't want to be a follower

01:28:54.680 is that correct yeah yeah yeah i gotta send the asteroid on that one holy shit okay you cannot

01:29:06.740 this this is the big thing like forget the who pays shit women want men and are attracted to men

01:29:13.720 who are leaders and who are masculine and who are dominant but women have been there's this

01:29:19.260 mind virus of feminism which tells like on a biological and attraction level i would say most

01:29:26.560 women want men to be leaders pay for the pay for the first date take initiative make the first move

01:29:31.440 do all these things right but you also simultaneously you want men to be leaders but

01:29:37.100 you don't want to be followers and that's the breakdown i think in most relationships is you

01:29:42.240 have women who desperately want men to be strong to be masculine to be leaders but you're not prepared

01:29:48.340 to be followers you cannot be a leader with a mutinous is that the word is that does that mutinous

01:29:55.980 with a mutinous non-follower i cannot lead somebody that's not prepared to follow me

01:30:01.820 you can it's like a dance someone's the lead someone's the if both try to lead it's a disaster

01:30:08.620 if both try to follow it's a disaster someone has to lead someone has to follow

01:30:13.680 and that's the problem i think you're you're shaking your head you disagree i think if you look if you want

01:30:21.240 to be as a woman you want to be more masculine you want to be more dominant you want to be take

01:30:25.480 take more of the lead in the relationship that's your call but if you're a woman and you want a guy

01:30:30.820 to be the leader you ought to be the follower that's the only way it works to in order to lead

01:30:38.240 like let's just look at this logically in order to lead someone has to follow right can everybody

01:30:47.200 let's talk about let's talk about businesses in an organization can everybody be the leader in an

01:30:53.040 organization no somebody has to be the shot caller somebody has to lead

01:30:57.420 yeah i guess it comes down to trust and maybe i haven't had that like trust in a relationship

01:31:06.540 where i feel like oh like yeah i really want to follow this guy maybe it's just like this

01:31:11.740 tension i've had within me too i think too i that's because you've been injected

01:31:18.540 you've been injected with the feminist mind virus looking for a leader then she's not looking for

01:31:24.860 the end maybe if no but she wants a guy to pay for the first date she would not go on a second

01:31:29.100 date with a guy if he didn't pay for the first date which is some like gut instinct like because

01:31:35.100 oh this guy's not a provider that's not leading as a guy i suppose you could say you want a guy to

01:31:41.100 lead you want a guy to initiate you want a guy to do all these things but when it comes time for you

01:31:48.420 to hold up your end of the bargain when it comes to your traditional gender role expectations you're

01:31:53.340 like i don't like those never mind we're gonna hyphenate our last names i'm gonna have you're not

01:31:59.680 gonna be the head of the household i'm not gonna grant you your ability to use your masculine instincts

01:32:07.340 to make the best decisions for this family hey and that's within your right but what i guess what

01:32:15.040 i'm getting at is go date like a guy who's down to split the bill and is gonna when you ask he's not

01:32:24.540 gonna be decisive about what he wants to eat and he's not gonna be decisive when he's gonna have plans

01:32:30.620 he's gonna be like whatever you want babe you pick do you want that maybe she does i don't know

01:32:38.140 can i ask a question go ahead um by the way i just want to say you know other girls can if you have

01:32:46.000 something you want to say please if you have something you want to say to what i say somebody

01:32:50.520 you can come in go ahead um so the whole feminist movement really just confuses me because it's like

01:32:57.280 double-minded um so i have a question for the both of you guys since you guys seem to be um feminist

01:33:03.580 and you seem to be also traditional as well at the same time yeah where do you guys both draw the line

01:33:08.700 between being a feminist and then being traditional like where do you draw the line at where you can be

01:33:14.920 feminist in this aspect or more so like no just where you draw the line i don't want to get too deep

01:33:19.920 yeah yeah i feel like that's mostly just like what you consider yourself and like what you consider

01:33:28.040 a feminist and what you believe in i guess for feminists but i don't know yeah um

01:33:39.060 i would say yeah it is hard because i do i do want that gender like equality when it comes to women

01:33:55.100 getting equal pay and work and things like that but then there is this other part of me i mean i was

01:34:01.740 raised in a very traditional home where like my dad was the sole provider and my mom was a stay-at-home mom

01:34:07.980 so i do have that part of me that still wants that but then there's this also part of me that wants

01:34:14.840 my own life and or i guess like i want that control in terms of like oh i'm i'm a providing

01:34:24.660 for myself and i'm making the rules in my own world so it's are you willing to compromise like let's say

01:34:33.560 you meet the right guy and he's like traditional and he meets like all your you know checks the

01:34:38.280 boxes right uh-huh are you willing to put aside the feminist identity that you kind of have a

01:34:44.420 little bit and then jump to being a transition transitional woman yeah traditional one yeah i

01:34:51.100 yeah i mean at the end of the day it's i want to have that i have the i i mean if it came down to

01:35:07.120 it i do want the more traditional relationship so that would have to be me re-evaluating like what

01:35:14.280 does it mean for me to be feminist and independent if i do want the man to be providing for me and

01:35:19.960 if i do want these things so let me ask you a question yes do you think that a traditional man

01:35:27.080 who's going to be a provider who's going to take it do you want um you want kids right yes do you

01:35:33.340 know how many kids you want um i wanted three but now with financials probably two when you start

01:35:40.460 having kids are you going to want to pull back from work a little bit yeah do you think you'll want

01:35:44.920 to take extended time off of work probably yes how much time do you plan to go get back to work

01:35:51.540 quickly after you have kids or would you would you do you want to be a stay-at-home mom so i was just

01:35:57.960 saying that i grew up you know in a very traditional home my dad was the sole provider and my mom was

01:36:03.220 stay-at-home mom um i think for me i want to be a stay-at-home mom up until a certain age for my kids

01:36:10.340 maybe till they hit like kindergarten both so like so five five years yeah five six years if you have

01:36:16.700 two kids so like seven six seven years so you want to take six to seven years off no so yeah no that's

01:36:24.140 not wrong no i don't think that's well it's not it's not wrong for you to want that but i'm trying

01:36:30.980 to reconcile it with your feminist independent woman position um yeah so i during that seven

01:36:39.780 year period you want your husband you want to stay at home take care of the kids you want your husband

01:36:45.380 to be sole breadwinner for a seven year period i'm not saying that's wrong i'm just asking if that's

01:36:52.380 what you would be i'll bring you in in just a sec go ahead um it's hard because i think in my mind in

01:37:00.060 this like ideal world like i would be stay-at-home mom while also still bringing in some kind of

01:37:05.060 income from like a side hustle or something and then side hustle yeah i don't know what blogging

01:37:11.800 about kids who knows blogging about kids i don't that sounds like a waste of money not gonna lie

01:37:16.960 blogs does that do people even do that i don't know vlogging vlogging about kids i'm just i'm just

01:37:23.380 bringing in a hypothetical while your husband is a sole breadwinner and you just had two kids and you

01:37:27.880 have household expenses and child expenses you you're gonna want your husband to go like drop a

01:37:34.100 thousand dollars on like camera equipment and like editing and yeah no i know it is okay a big um

01:37:40.540 commitment okay i'm just trying to think of other ways i could help bring in money at the time of

01:37:47.460 raising kids so you basically want to provide for yourself up until the time you're married and are

01:37:54.440 ready to have children and then you're willing to put all your efforts into being a traditional

01:37:59.600 wife correct i would say yes okay so the question you have to ask yourself is is you might want that

01:38:10.720 treatment from a man but because of your mindset and because you consider yourself feminist and

01:38:16.020 independent you don't want to take your husband's name you want but you want him to be

01:38:21.580 sole breadwinner for a period of seven years do you think a traditional man wants you

01:38:28.560 do you think like first off do you think traditional men are feminist do you think

01:38:34.600 traditional men tend to be liberal men um not i assume you're liberal right i'm liberal to moderate

01:38:42.520 yeah okay so you had the other part of the equation is does the man you want want you you have a lot of

01:38:49.360 like progressive liberal women who want actually there's a nick i'll find it but there's this video

01:38:57.380 that went viral a couple months ago i think it's in one of the dropbox folders um we reacted to it

01:39:04.920 it was a woman in a car and she was saying how she's super liberal and progressive but she still

01:39:11.360 wants the traditional treatment um i'm gonna see if i can find the video because that's kind of

01:39:16.120 topical yeah but do you think a traditional guy who is gonna be okay with you not taking his last

01:39:24.420 name and you being a feminist like do you think most traditional men want that um

01:39:32.260 i don't you don't know i think so okay but so don't you think you should sorry sorry i didn't

01:39:44.300 mean to cut you off continue the last name thing is funny because i just really like my last name

01:39:50.180 if it was like a lame name then i'd be like okay but but i know i know it it comes down to like it

01:39:57.600 shouldn't matter if you know if i had a cool last name or not it's it's more of the principle of it i

01:40:03.460 guess so anyways that's a side note but um yeah okay i guess yeah i'd have to do here you had

01:40:14.880 something soul searching yes my whole thing is is like i think you can be a feminist and still want

01:40:20.560 those things because like biologically like you want a man with resources it's like you're talking

01:40:25.080 about having a kid someday wanting to support it like that's a biological part of us and like

01:40:29.920 biologically you want a man that's gonna protect you it's like you're gonna want someone that's

01:40:34.640 gonna be able to provide for you because it's like hey pregnancy and having children is hard

01:40:38.180 and like yeah i think men do see it that way i think part of feminism is like it not being

01:40:43.760 necessarily completely transactional it's like you don't necessarily want to feel like you're bought

01:40:48.880 also i don't think a leader is necessarily a provider because yeah you can have a provider but

01:40:54.500 you could like boss that bitch around like you can get what you need and like i think that's the

01:40:59.420 same as like going on a first date is like initially you want to see that that person is

01:41:03.360 gonna put it in and also it's like that courting like that courtship like you could look at flowers

01:41:08.740 for example like a bouquet of flowers it's like people buy them now but back in the day people used

01:41:13.220 to pick them and it was like a proof of their ability to forage it's like look at all these

01:41:18.600 qualities i can provide for you keep going keep going go ahead and like it's nice like i'm not gonna

01:41:25.700 lie like one time some guy like hit me up at like 1 a.m like as a booty call and i was like no you have

01:41:31.460 to go out and like literally pick me flowers like pick me a bouquet and like maybe maybe i'll come over

01:41:36.040 it's like it's that sense of like effort have you ever had a booty call though a lot yeah okay like two

01:41:45.400 standards this is like what's i mean so okay you have you objected you like almost were

01:41:52.700 offended how dare he ask for a booty call yet you've had plenty of booty calls yeah i've had

01:42:03.220 so many booty calls that i was like you know what i want to feel like someone actually like

01:42:07.080 wants to work for it you know it was just like uh hey you know what i want can i so did he work for

01:42:15.000 it yeah he he picked the flowers he let me ask you a question so

01:42:19.220 while he did all this work for it he went out and actually he legit picked flowers yes a whole

01:42:27.320 bouquet he even got a variety he walked two blocks for it it was nice um while how long did

01:42:34.220 you make him wait before hooking up or whatever until he finished picking his flowers

01:42:38.080 i thought it was oh so you y'all hooked up on the first date it was not a date it was a booty call

01:42:44.360 there's a difference oh he so so it's still a booty call but he had to go get some flowers

01:42:49.540 yeah that's so arbit i mean it's funny it's very arbitrary though um and what's so funny is like

01:42:57.160 women have so much fucking power in relationships i can't imagine a guy being able to say to a woman

01:43:04.820 like go get some motherfucking flowers and then maybe i'll give you some dick ain't no girl gonna

01:43:15.720 be like okay let me get right on it start picking some flowers so i can get some dick like bro that

01:43:23.160 shit's okay it's also different when you have to ask them to do that you know i mean they should

01:43:28.940 naturally do that but we had this this was a long time ago we have we went around the table with

01:43:34.140 some girls and a girl said she told the guy like a guy who was pleasant asked her out and she was

01:43:40.660 like oh she's kind of a fence sitter she's like oh i don't know um prove uh tell me why i should go

01:43:47.740 out with you prove to me or some shit like that and like all the girls laughed oh ha ha and i was like

01:43:53.560 let me ask if a guy if you were interested in a guy and he was like prove to me why i should go out

01:43:59.880 with you all the girls were like i'd just be like who who the fuck does this guy think he is

01:44:05.860 fuck this guy he's got a big fucking ego on to the next boom um but okay so the guy

01:44:12.200 so okay it was a booty call you said no to the booty call but then he picked you flowers and then you

01:44:20.060 said yes to the booty call yeah and then i guess once the booty was over it was it was just interesting

01:44:25.080 but that's like completely besides the point we're like getting off track yeah i just forgot where

01:44:29.840 we were on that toxic feminist is about wanting everything in females favor but expects guys to

01:44:37.280 be traditional while being a non-traditional hoes it's like having eight bodies and forcing her

01:44:42.780 simp boyfriend to be okay that his girl got ran through shout out to number nine you wish you were

01:44:49.600 number nine oh uh yo lpe thank you very much for that comment man uh appreciate it yeah i mean it's

01:44:57.180 i think that's kind of how dating is you have a bunch of you basically there's an expectation on men

01:45:04.840 that we adhere to our traditional gender roles with non-traditional women they want they want all

01:45:10.940 the benefits of equality and all the benefits of traditionalism doesn't make it make sense i don't

01:45:17.760 really get it oh nick the video that we were talking about it's what's her name uh it was a

01:45:24.580 new there's a new york post article i can't find it in the folder so you're gonna have to google it

01:45:28.240 it's progressive woman wants man to pay for dates that should probably trigger like find it for us

01:45:36.100 um okay i don't know what what were we talking about i don't know paying for dates

01:45:45.420 we were talking about her feminist independence yeah um

01:45:54.000 it's just look i

01:45:57.320 you oh you were saying that it's normal like that's what women want

01:46:02.720 like it's normal for women to want a guy who's like provider protector leader etc etc

01:46:07.640 yeah because that's like biological yeah like i don't know if you've ever heard a bus but he's

01:46:12.860 done a lot of like david buss i don't know his first name oh just his last name yeah but he's

01:46:18.340 done a lot of like research with that they like did a study across like 37 countries and outside of

01:46:22.560 like one of them because of like culture norms like that was the overall take and sure it it makes

01:46:28.800 sense um let me see here nick do you have it

01:46:33.440 here i'm gonna read this while i'm gonna read this while i remember seeing violet on iphone and other

01:46:40.960 social media several years ago glad to see she's still relevant i wish her much success and

01:46:45.840 happiness moving forward valley hey thank you man appreciate it um sorry rachel what were you saying

01:46:50.920 huh what were you saying something i don't know i was just saying research i think i finished my

01:46:55.820 oh okay nick he said you have it i might is it is it this one and this

01:47:00.000 oh dude add block rip um no that's not it

01:47:05.060 uh do add tiktok to the search term can you pull it out over to this screen so i can see it

01:47:11.520 yeah um just so we can try to find it um

01:47:16.940 go back um no it doesn't trigger just uh progressive women tiktok men should pay

01:47:27.020 sorry guys we're uh yeah that one hopefully the ad block please don't fucking ad block

01:47:36.620 it is uh just turn off ad block on that page do you know how to do it

01:47:42.060 okay very top by the search bar top by search bar there's a hand sign nope

01:47:47.420 sorry guys give us just a sec click that uh pause on the site always is fine just always

01:47:53.900 okay refresh cool cool cool all right if you can pull that up when you can

01:47:57.760 sorry guys we're just getting this article pulled up here

01:48:01.940 uh okay i'm a liberal it's hard to find masculine men to date who aren't conservative

01:48:11.240 can you scroll down just a little bit uh i think let's watch the actual scroll down scroll

01:48:16.360 down i think is this the actual video no that's just a screenshot scroll down a bit more usually

01:48:21.480 they link that's screenshot there we go uh pause it audio full screen what the fuck

01:48:30.220 pause pause pause pause pause pause full screen please okay start it go ahead i guess

01:48:38.200 do you want to know wait pause pause pause pause pause pause video tab please go ahead

01:48:45.320 realizations i recently had was that as a liberal woman it is really hard to find a man who is willing

01:48:53.560 to play the more traditional masculine role in the relationship in today's day and age who is not

01:49:00.440 a conservative a man who wants to pay on the first date who wants to open your door who has that

01:49:05.800 want and desire to take care of you and to provide who is not a conservative and obviously as a liberal

01:49:12.040 woman i do want to be respected for my independence and i do want to have my own autonomy in the

01:49:16.580 relationship and not be confined or conformed to the traditional female homemaker childbearing role

01:49:25.300 and most of the men that i've dated who do have that more natural provider masculinity about them

01:49:31.120 are normally conservative so i don't really know what to do because i don't want to compromise my

01:49:35.920 morals and values just to find a man but am i asking to have my cake and eat it too yes yes you are okay

01:49:45.680 so does that um does that video kind of capture a little bit of how you feel yeah i i'd say yeah okay um

01:49:57.600 yeah it is i think it is hard because i growing up in a very more traditional um setting and then

01:50:09.340 trying to want to just seeing it i guess it kind of comes down to seeing and not work out with my

01:50:16.420 my parents it's like okay they did the traditional route and it still didn't work so they're divorced

01:50:24.660 yeah okay yeah it's not clear to me if they're divorced because they were traditional versus

01:50:30.140 other reasons but go ahead i was gonna say that video sounds so contradictory like it doesn't make

01:50:35.020 sense you can't have one and then want the other i think she just answered her own question in the

01:50:39.960 video though so it's like yeah what do you want him to be traditional but you can't do it doesn't

01:50:45.720 make sense like she said herself that obviously naturally traditional people are more conservative

01:50:51.460 and stuff but she said literally that she wasn't willing to be a traditional wife and homemaker so

01:50:58.760 sucks to suck sucks to suck look if you're a feminist you're independent independent woman start paying for

01:51:06.020 first aids problem solved right yeah are you gonna are you gonna start offering to pay for first

01:51:13.240 dates um uh i can give it a shot i can you seem deeply disturbed by the idea of paying for the

01:51:23.700 first day yeah um i mean if i'm gonna walk and do my talk then comes down to it then i should go find

01:51:32.540 a nice soy boy who paints or some shit and uh

01:51:38.220 yeah

01:51:41.380 yeah okay although i do think like there's such a there's such a pressure now on men

01:51:48.820 that men are even starting to and have actually have been providing for feminist women so like you

01:51:58.260 will find like it what in my opinion are simps basically um who are still gonna pay for you

01:52:08.480 even though you're super feminist and super non-traditional i'm not saying there's hey it's

01:52:15.960 your choice but i just i don't like this idea of men being traditional men with non-traditional

01:52:24.140 woman it just doesn't compute for me it does not make any sense so you're saying that it would have

01:52:32.180 to be traditional men with traditional women and then that kind of non-traditional men with

01:52:38.000 non-traditional women that to keep things that seems like but wouldn't it make sense don't

01:52:44.440 wouldn't a traditional man want a traditional woman i think the differential here is that you have

01:52:51.600 non-traditional women who want traditional men but it's not gonna there's not there's enough

01:52:58.480 traditional women i well that's kind of a tough one but traditional men want traditional women

01:53:07.060 i don't think they want non-traditional women non-traditional women clearly see the benefit

01:53:13.160 dating wise to dating traditional men leading provisioning protecting etc

01:53:18.980 i i actually i'm curious what are the benefits of dating a non-traditional man

01:53:25.920 you can walk all over him yeah maybe i don't know um why don't you walk more over like a

01:53:37.400 traditional man like you're really just like squeezing out the goods you know but traditional

01:53:43.000 man's like a leader so you're not gonna like yes non-traditional man there's not

01:53:48.180 they don't like put the frame of respect there yeah like some guys are so nice you know and like

01:53:55.840 they'll go along with everything but and they're nice but i would never get with a guy like that

01:54:00.180 because i just need you to be you know i i'm the nice one and i go along with everything i need you

01:54:05.600 to be like no we're drawing the line here you know so i definitely think traditional men can get

01:54:11.220 taken advantage of can get played certainly so um yeah nick can you pull up twitch really quick i want

01:54:18.240 to shout out uh twitch people guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops to fall in the prime sub

01:54:23.260 yo operator thank you for the prime moonshine thank you for the prime joma thank you for the four

01:54:28.200 community subs thank you man espada thank you for the prime ricky marie thank you for the tier one

01:54:34.260 steve-o thank you for the prime much appreciated thank you man go uh drops a fall in the prime sub

01:54:40.280 if you have one all right moving on to a different topic here we have rachel i have a lot of personal

01:54:48.000 experience in regards to relationships and sexual activity yes and you provided and i thank you for

01:54:55.620 providing this you got a long list here and i'm trying to give you prompts and you can tell us the

01:54:59.380 full cliff notes version uh one of your exes totaled a car took your car and totaled it what

01:55:06.580 happened there give us a short version if you can okay short version uh i was in high school they had

01:55:12.440 my keys little did i know that they were actually going to drive my car they went to get mcdonald's

01:55:17.320 and totaled it into a waste management truck and then they ubered me there um from my school and then

01:55:23.360 told the police officers that i did it even though i didn't because they didn't have a license or a

01:55:27.660 permit and yeah and then that was the end of the relationship uh and really expensive especially

01:55:35.040 since i had already totaled two cars in high school so yeah okay um you said that the same dude who he

01:55:44.040 did he steal your car or he just borrowed it i would say steal because like he wasn't allowed to

01:55:49.440 drive it and he had taken it technically stolen it before without me knowing okay um yeah he told me

01:55:58.380 he needed to charge his phone in my car which i don't know why i believe that sure um this same guy

01:56:05.500 you said that he faked his own death yes yes to try to get me back yes get you back yes so after the

01:56:14.900 car accident situation he i don't even know how but he went to like the emergency room i don't think

01:56:22.720 he actually had any emergencies but then he like posted a picture of it and then he had his friend

01:56:28.160 call me and tell me that the nurses said that he wasn't gonna make it and he was unresponsive and so

01:56:35.200 i'm sitting there freaking out um and then all of a sudden i get bombarded by him and yeah i don't

01:56:44.040 know i don't know why that would fix things there's more there's more he tried to stab you yeah that was

01:56:55.260 also after the fact too after what fact oh after him crashing my car okay i guess what did he try to

01:57:01.880 stab you with a spork no a knife a knife i went over to his house he wanted to talk it out and he

01:57:07.560 kept being like oh come sit next to me and i was like no you have a knife and he's like no no i don't

01:57:12.760 he's like do you see a knife and i was like no and he's like so then sit there and then he pulled a

01:57:17.540 knife on me so yeah that's that

01:57:19.960 so he was on he like he just had a knife like he did he actually make a stabbing motion to try to stab

01:57:30.080 you uh yeah and this sounds terrible but i like was it a butter knife no no it like nicked my

01:57:37.000 finger fortunately you got a low cut yeah he just kept like yelling i want to stab you so like that

01:57:41.880 was he kept yelling he wants to stab you yeah but it was fine i didn't get stabbed you but you stayed

01:57:47.700 there how many times did he say he was going to stab you how long i don't know he just kept

01:57:54.220 repeating it and why didn't you leave he kept trying to stab you what the hell yeah were you

01:58:00.300 like fighting him off like oh i dodged it because like i don't know i was pushing unfortunately i think

01:58:06.820 he knew if he did stab me there'd be consequences so i think so he was like fake stabbing you no i

01:58:12.200 think it was like he really wanted to but also like part of him may have been holding back i mean

01:58:17.940 um but yeah i got out of it because i had sex with him so yeah it's okay

01:58:24.380 what did he propose that or did you propose that idea no i just found that that's like a really

01:58:31.620 stinky way of getting out of things those guys so you proposed it yikes so were you like i'll have

01:58:38.440 sex with you if you don't stop me that's a little no exactly it's just like you you kind of distract

01:58:44.900 them and then you can kind of get i mean that's just i mean it sounds like a lifetime movie that's

01:58:50.960 a really fucked up that's crazy situation uh fuck okay uh so he stole your car totaled it faked his

01:59:02.020 own death but you still went over to his house like what were what was where you you i assume you

01:59:08.920 were broken up yeah i had just gone over to his house um because he wanted to get stabbed

01:59:14.320 no because he wanted to make it make it up to me like talk about things with his penis

01:59:19.720 no like about how would he make it up to you but that was him being seductive he wanted to talk

01:59:26.460 about things to get her into his house so he could yeah also because he was gonna owe me a lot of money

01:59:34.260 we took him a small claims court because he never paid for it but for the car yeah but in the state

01:59:39.980 of colorado you cannot get charged with negligence as a minor so he lucked out

01:59:46.220 it's okay that sounds terrible uh very toxic relationship through and through you said he

01:59:53.540 was your best friend's ex so karma's a bitch he was your best friend's ex so karma's you got

02:00:04.140 revenge on your best friend no i would say like that whole relationship was karma for like

02:00:09.340 getting with my best friend's ex because oh karma karma in your direction okay because it was your

02:00:17.640 best friend's ex yeah that's pretty a shit move you know that's not really that great this was in high

02:00:23.700 school you said my junior year your best friend

02:00:27.520 is this like a small town or something there were no other men that could stab you i mean no like i

02:00:38.800 don't know it just kind of happened plenty of men who would be happy to stab you i mean i'm trying i

02:00:43.140 could find you one tonight are you into the stabbing thing is that what it is no some girls have like a

02:00:48.040 knife kink it's like they want a knife held to them it's weird don't ask yeah not me not me

02:00:53.440 um trying to keep everything brief here uh when they were dating he bought a turtle

02:00:57.920 the turtle ended up going into my possession um i absolutely hated the guy for a really really long

02:01:03.420 time but the turtle the turtle turtle still alive and kicking no he took the turtle and then sold it

02:01:12.000 for a cat valid i don't know basically out of anything i'm a simp for pets so that was it

02:01:21.600 what so okay but it was your best friend's ex so wait they had broken up and then you got with him

02:01:27.360 or did you steal him from her oh no it was like it was like months later they've been arguing um but

02:01:35.080 you're you were her best friend did she not tell you any crazy stories about this dude um no because

02:01:43.280 like they never really had that kind of stuff like most of their interactions were at school and them

02:01:47.620 screaming at each other but i mean that sounds pretty bad yeah i just wouldn't pay attention so

02:01:52.380 yeah that wasn't a red flag for you that they were having yelling matches in high school before going

02:01:57.860 to fourth period bio class i mean i don't know i was in high school you don't really know all that much

02:02:04.660 i mean i think even in high school like people yelling at each other is pretty unhealthy

02:02:08.620 so that was that was like the thing that turned you on like oh yeah he's gonna abuse me verbally is

02:02:17.360 that kind of what was exciting about him no the verbal abuse no it was most like you had pre-evidence

02:02:28.100 of his abuse like verbal abuse so i mean yeah i mean maybe she was abusive too i mean yeah i don't know

02:02:35.540 a lot of that shit can be mutual i would just say he's like good at manipulating so kind of sounds

02:02:42.020 like a different person okay all right uh you went on a tinder date and the man threw up all over your

02:02:47.960 the back seat of your car and you didn't know this okay so this is disgusting but i used same guy or

02:02:54.120 different guy different guy different guy um there this was only a one-time thing um it's really

02:03:01.260 disgusting but i used to have digestive issues and so like driving would be hard because i'd throw up

02:03:06.980 so you know i had a big gulp cup and this man our first date was to go get my flu shot and then

02:03:14.880 afterwards he insisted on hanging out in my car and then you know wanted to move to the back and i don't

02:03:20.860 know why but he just decided to chuck the thing in my back seat and so i had to go home and clean that

02:03:27.180 chuck the thing oh it was your own throw up yeah the big gulp cup of my vomit

02:03:33.740 okay so i thought he was the one who it was you who threw up yes in the back of your car

02:03:48.520 tech indirectly but you said you didn't even know this is you have two different throw up stories

02:03:54.720 my bad i never proofread anything i said um you said you went on a tinder tinder date the man threw

02:04:00.100 up all over the back seat of your car oh no and you didn't know this he threw my throw up in the

02:04:05.280 back seat of my car and he didn't know my throw up and the thing is is i don't know why he didn't

02:04:10.240 notice and he just kept going and i was like no you like you need to leave okay that's interesting

02:04:17.280 um good to know we have uh

02:04:20.660 what's the some guy picked me up from a club and you did what to his parents bed

02:04:27.740 pooped i know the internet's gonna shit on me for this one but i shat in his bed so you know what

02:04:34.340 it's it works out it's fine why like you did it on purpose no i just like woke up and i thought he

02:04:41.600 farted that wasn't the case he was nice though he like cleaned it up and he played the guitar for me

02:04:48.620 to try to make me feel better did you ever see him again yeah actually i did on his accord

02:04:56.740 okay um what was the the spanish kid story with the spanish class or whatever not the spanish kid

02:05:09.480 the spanish class oh yeah so this guy in my spanish class i guess a bunch of girls thought

02:05:14.000 he was really cute i didn't really think much of it and then we went on a date and it was super

02:05:19.160 awkward because he's like oh i haven't done this in a while and i was like done like what do you mean

02:05:23.340 like it's okay um and he was like no like i actually haven't like hung out with someone outside

02:05:29.400 of school uh he was like the last time i did was like a year and a half ago with my ex and then he

02:05:35.260 was like and before that it was like two years um and then we went like miniature golfing and it

02:05:42.720 was super awkward because he was trying so hard to like flirt with me but also at the same time kept

02:05:47.620 like insisting that i didn't like him and all this stuff i hung out with the dude for like three hours

02:05:53.680 and then when i had to go home for dinner he was like sitting there being like oh you're trying

02:06:00.060 to make excuses because you don't like me and it was weird he told me like the back of my head was

02:06:06.280 hot when we were putt-putting he told me it was good competition even though i'm really bad at putt-putt

02:06:10.880 but he said it's just because he usually goes alone um yeah no it's just a very awkward um experience

02:06:18.680 very sad okay so he's kind of insecure whatever okay uh let's see i'll come back to some of your

02:06:26.140 other stories later uh let's see you said you were unaware that you were in a love triangle and

02:06:33.600 that was the pawn what does that mean um let's go back to circa 2020 um i was dating this guy we met

02:06:41.560 on instagram um he ended up still being in contact with his ex i didn't know any of that until i did

02:06:51.120 some digging because i don't like to assume until all i have my facts all straight so i don't do that

02:06:56.460 um because that's crazy so found out about her um and i found out about her kind of like

02:07:03.120 accidentally i had posted um a tiktok challenge um it was ariana grande's point of view and i posted it

02:07:13.400 at like six o'clock she posted the same exact challenge at 601 so um i reached out to him i was

02:07:21.680 just like are you still talking to her no response i went on her instagram seeing his comment and sure

02:07:29.080 enough they were still talking never spoke to him again a few months later he said you know what ariel

02:07:34.740 i'm so sorry i never intended for that to happen it was just all messed up and never spoke to him after

02:07:42.320 that okay all right yeah i hate when people use like i never intended for that to happen but you

02:07:52.180 like did

02:07:52.920 you did okay um you said that you you've noticed a mass increase in interracial interracial

02:08:02.280 relationships marriages dating and you said ever since i started dating outside my race i've been

02:08:07.620 happier and that you've gotten a lot of backlash from it i enjoy it ignorance is bliss what do you

02:08:14.700 mean um so i definitely have seen a lot more interracial marriages and relationships especially

02:08:21.380 in california um ever since i did start dating outside my race it's been pretty good i've enjoyed it but

02:08:28.960 a lot of my friends um kind of had some comments about that um and it doesn't really bother bother

02:08:37.860 me at all because i mean if someone makes you happy then they make you happy so would you what is

02:08:43.620 your racial preference i date white guys white guys okay latino latino guys no asian no black guys

02:08:52.780 no like is it you just have a preference for white men or you just will not date those races black

02:09:00.000 guys before yeah but ever since i switched to white guys definitely more happy okay became a preference

02:09:06.680 you prefer the white men i do she prefers the white men why did your friends have an issue with you

02:09:13.100 switching it up um

02:09:15.060 you realize you still have an airpod in i just fucking noticed that bro

02:09:23.180 you can know what you got do you have like someone i was having check yeah they were like

02:09:28.100 look at your face look on your face at the screen the faces you're making are so funny

02:09:32.340 wait i kept hearing it your friends are on the phone with you yeah they're watching yeah why are you oh

02:09:37.000 they're talking to you no like one send a text she's like the faces that you're making are hilarious

02:09:42.500 i didn't even realize i was making them but yeah okay what but to answer your question what's is that

02:09:49.060 on your phone or in here yeah it's in my phone it's connected to my phone and then to answer your

02:09:54.280 question um i think because they have their own preference and i guess they wanted me to do the

02:10:00.940 same thing as them speak straight into the mic like date within your own yeah technically yeah

02:10:06.120 okay uh let's see uh wait who's noel oh yeah that's one of the girls that flaked i got notes on

02:10:15.620 her but okay rip okay uh does anyone else here have a racial preference what about you do you prefer

02:10:22.200 white people you prefer blasian do you prefer wasians what do you any any color of the rainbow

02:10:29.120 okay okay what about you do you have a preference white guys black guys if i had to pick same race

02:10:36.240 as myself but i'm not picky what which version version but i'm not picky

02:10:43.120 what what race was your last boyfriend persian before that persian before that i've had two

02:10:54.980 boyfriends hat trick persian oh just okay all right persian persian okay that's super specific

02:11:00.860 like okay cool hey cool uh yeah i prefer white guys wow racist over here what can i say

02:11:11.840 such a racist becca wow rude yeah okay uh violet what about you

02:11:19.360 i don't have a preference what was your last oh yeah you haven't really had a boyfriend

02:11:26.700 what was your last uh ting uh asian okay madison uh-oh she's about to get clipped

02:11:40.660 i don't have a preference either i'm down for any color rainbow say madison say i i do find myself

02:11:50.080 more attracted to white men specifically brunettes brown eyes thick eyebrows so frankie just describing

02:11:58.380 your boyfriend yeah uh but but what about the asian men um i wanted to say like i was actually

02:12:05.140 thinking about it the first two guys i ever like had like a little ting with were asian huh there

02:12:11.240 you have it folks so i'm not there you have it there you have it folks maddie is walking back

02:12:18.540 her her uh asian hate self-hatred okay let's see here um what is your preference brian

02:12:30.400 my preference i'll date i'll date any race but i'd say i have a slight preference for uh white or asian

02:12:36.400 women but i'll date i'll date any race i don't really it's not a big thing for me

02:12:41.360 did you have a response

02:12:44.980 oh i was just gonna ask like what were all your past teens

02:12:50.900 past i mean geez where do i begin so many huh i mean i've dated a couple asian women i've dated

02:12:59.440 some white women uh i think that's specific enough i reckon let's see uh i mean yeah that's

02:13:09.360 fine she's in the corner over there it's okay um let's see so i'll bring it back to rachel here

02:13:16.360 let's see rachel you were in an open relationship which all fell apart when i slept with your drug

02:13:23.960 with your drug dealer and then your boyfriend got pissed because apparently the relationship

02:13:28.680 was only open on his end yes um well i didn't know but i had taken his virginity and for him like

02:13:38.920 that was very important to him at the time i used to view sex as just an activity um

02:13:46.920 and so we decided to have things open because it's going to be a long distance over the summer

02:13:51.240 and i was very adamant about him being able to like sexually explore himself and i asked so many

02:13:57.400 times to make sure he was good with it and he was fully on board but then i slept with someone and he

02:14:03.400 said that that was unfair because it was unequal um and he expected it to only be on his side his

02:14:10.440 exact reaction was i think i'm gonna vomit based um but yeah that's why most open relationships fail

02:14:18.040 though because it's never really communicated exactly how both of the people want it and it's

02:14:24.680 just like it's never really fair i guess we tried to work it out i tried to like leave it open on his

02:14:33.880 end because like i was really in love with him a lot um and i was fine with that but man kept blowing

02:14:40.840 his chances he just kept like telling girls about me in the process of trying to fuck them and i was like

02:14:46.760 dude no female wants to hear that was it was it like a mutual decision that you would be open as

02:14:55.880 well or you just talked about him being open well it was always kind of assumed and talked about that

02:15:03.960 it'd be open both ways until that didn't work and so then i was open on his end not my end and then

02:15:11.400 eventually i asked for equity and he wanted equality so we kind of mutually went other directions

02:15:18.520 wait so just to be clear you started dating a guy it started open for the both of you

02:15:24.280 then he wanted to close it on your end yes you agreed to that correct yes and then you wanted to

02:15:32.200 open it back up again yes because at that point and then you slept with your drug dealer but then

02:15:39.400 you said he got pissed oh no um so the thing is is like that's how we came up with like how i found

02:15:47.240 out that apparently he always had assumed because like all of our conversations it sounded like open

02:15:51.960 on both ends that's when i found out he actually thought it was only open on his end is when i was

02:15:56.840 honest about that and that was about three months into our relationship and then that was my longest

02:16:01.400 relationship which went for seven months and so like during those four months i was eventually kind of

02:16:06.280 like i don't like like i don't know what you do with that you know okay um so distance

02:16:20.360 you are in an open relationship this was your longest relation this was a seven month relationship

02:16:24.920 that you referenced you slept with your drug dealer and we're talking marijuana what are we talking here

02:16:30.200 um the goodies what's that the stuff you can't get at the dispo or the grocery store molly what are we

02:16:38.040 the gas station uh i've actually never tried molly i'd like to um mostly just like shrooms

02:16:44.360 meth um i have gotten weed from him before meth no not meth heroin i'm not crack cocaine it's like the hippie

02:16:53.080 drugs you know are you a hippie i've been called that many times yes psychedelics yeah okay all right

02:16:59.880 uh you said you had a guy obsessed with you you felt like you were a babysitter you told him to go

02:17:06.120 make friends he comes to your house banging on the window to show me that he made a friend

02:17:11.240 some random girl he had just met definitely low-key stalking or just lots of stalking behavior

02:17:18.440 and that one's kind of whatever i don't know if you've caught on to a trend but i um really picked

02:17:23.480 the cream of the crop um cream of the crop yeah i don't know why i've been told that i just finally

02:17:29.720 like the weirdest human beings and i'm like yes um but yeah so i graduated high school in 2020 so i

02:17:36.440 started university in 2020 online um and my english teacher told me that i should make friends so

02:17:42.360 someone in one of my classes she like hooked us up and so we were just like talking virtually we kind

02:17:48.680 of liked each other um things started getting really excessive and then when we both came out to

02:17:52.920 school it was like way too way too much uh that was when i had to tell him to make friends and him

02:18:00.200 liking to show me these friends and also like i'd be trying to study and i'd have to print him out

02:18:06.920 coloring pages so he'd like let go of my arm uh yeah it was very uncomfortable okay uh you have so many

02:18:17.800 more i'll do one more and then we'll come back to some of your other dating anecdotes later but you

02:18:22.840 said that there was a different guy who was obsessed with you and would literally do anything for you he

02:18:28.520 was your bitch yes your words yes uh what happened there what's the story there that's when you could

02:18:36.360 talk about uh providers someone overly trying to provide for you out of anything um also that's the

02:18:44.520 thing too is like his whole thing was like oh because since you don't want it it makes you more

02:18:49.240 deserving of it and everything just got really excessive it's yeah it's like if i like i made a

02:18:57.400 joke once i was like can you get a puppy because i want to play with a dog literally that night started

02:19:03.000 looking at dogs ended up buying my favorite breed of dog um okay he bought your dog what else um

02:19:11.160 um bought me a lot of things how much what was he like a sugar daddy type of thing or um but you

02:19:18.680 guys were dating sleeping together yeah yeah um he was your bitch though why was he how was he your

02:19:25.800 bitch i don't know like you did you boss him around type shit like he had no spine he was spineless

02:19:32.040 i would say he was spineless i was never trying to like take advantage of him um but it's like he tried

02:19:39.080 so hard to like almost purchase my love and like he recognized that so like that's like literally

02:19:45.160 what kind of made him my bitch it's like oh for example i crack a joke about wanting a dog and he

02:19:50.440 goes out and gets a dog um it's like oh i'm going abroad so he's gonna buy tickets to surprise me

02:19:59.480 even though i don't want him coming explicitly

02:20:01.960 you said you almost got the restraining order against him yeah for that same reason um just

02:20:10.280 because a lot of his other behaviors were extremely unhealthy okay yeah all right we'll come back to

02:20:16.040 some of your other anecdotes in a little bit um we were talking about vulnerability a little earlier

02:20:22.120 i don't know if i want to swing back on that um maybe later we'll talk about vulnerability um

02:20:32.600 yes is it yasmin yasmin yasmin what do you want to talk about

02:20:40.360 men being men and woman being woman what what do you mean by that gender roles what do you mean

02:20:48.120 are you looking for a man yes so you're like actively searching are you doing the approaching

02:20:55.720 or are you i'm not doing the approaching so you're just waiting for a man to come to you

02:21:04.280 yeah basically don't you have like okay yasmin

02:21:09.160 is there anything that you want to talk about

02:21:18.360 not particularly

02:21:22.760 oh these girls they drive hours to come be on the show these girls asked to be on the show brian

02:21:30.040 i want to be on the show they have nothing to fucking say okay um nothing you don't have a hot

02:21:36.040 take anything i mean gender roles that's when my hot take woman to be a woman okay men be the

02:21:43.160 providers and women do what they're what they're supposed to women do what they're supposed to yeah

02:21:49.240 rachel what do you feel about that do you disagree with her women being women and men being men yeah

02:21:55.960 i vote being human why don't you guys argue for a little bit let's see that let's i'm gonna step back

02:22:01.640 i'm gonna drop the lead of the conversation go ahead okay this might be like i hope this isn't

02:22:08.520 like an offensive question but like my issue with as we put it my bitch um he was persian so he was

02:22:15.480 constantly telling me like no like this is okay because i'm persian he's like persians like to shower

02:22:21.160 people with gifts i don't know if that has affected or influenced you with the

02:22:27.160 the flaunting of resources if that makes sense i'll put it in well the way i see it as a woman

02:22:34.440 what makes us happy it's like or like personally for me what makes me happy is being in my true

02:22:39.320 essence like i i'm in my 30s in my 20s i tried doing like the boss babe like make money and i'm like okay

02:22:45.560 career like focus on that that did not make me happy i'm like okay what is really gonna make me happy

02:22:50.680 what's my purpose it's like oh having kids and conceiving and like taking care of my kids my family like

02:22:55.960 like devoting myself to my husband and for me my essence as a woman and i feel like most women

02:23:04.440 their essence that's what makes us happy is like being able to nurture and conceive and procreate

02:23:11.240 also what does it mean to devote yourself to a man to take care of my man take care of my kids

02:23:18.360 to nurture them to nourish them to make sure they're healthy and happy to like serve something

02:23:25.960 other than myself what do you think is the root of the issue that women are turning away from those

02:23:31.640 specific feminine qualities now well when i think of myself when i was in my 20s it's like oh you need

02:23:36.600 to focus on a career and to focus on making money and that's the most important thing that's what's

02:23:39.960 going to make you happy and that's what i learned in school like after you graduate college go get a job

02:23:45.400 go make money like you need like to climb that corporate ladder in order to be happy and there

02:23:51.800 was no nothing else telling me otherwise so it's like oh this is what i have to do to be happy what

02:23:58.600 about men like what do you think is yeah just that same question but for men why do you think men aren't

02:24:09.160 masculine anymore i think same thing like school programming tv society has like programmed them

02:24:16.920 program them to be a certain way and then there's like the whole thing we're talking about talks

02:24:20.280 toxic masculinity is like they're like being programmed to be like oh being masculine is toxic

02:24:28.200 and it's okay to be emotional it's okay to like i don't know as a man to like cry or

02:24:35.880 you can go 50 50 on a date like why should a man pay things like that some men are like why should

02:24:43.080 i be doing this when because women want to hyphenate their last names right exactly they want to

02:24:54.360 not hold up their end of the traditional gender role

02:24:57.400 yeah and then women try to be leaders in a relationship and be like oh this has to be this

02:25:01.160 way and it's like there can't be two leaders in something and i feel like it can be frustrating

02:25:08.600 for a man too i think that society has really like you know they're they've advertised for women to be

02:25:16.360 strong independent like even my mom's generation you know she had kids really young and she always told

02:25:22.920 me like never depend on a man just make sure you know you don't get pregnant young and you'll be fine

02:25:27.960 just focus on your career like i was always told that even my stepdad he would be like if i were to

02:25:33.240 like go out with a nice rich rich guy or something or i just wanted to surround myself with good people

02:25:39.640 but he would be like oh you're a gold digger you know and so it's like you're not you women are just

02:25:45.560 really like pushed away from being traditional and it's sad i feel like it's okay to encourage women

02:25:54.200 to uh go to school blah blah focus on themselves it but it i think the problem with it now is that

02:26:01.800 they're taking it to a certain extent where they think they don't need a man in the long run

02:26:09.160 they think they can survive without a man be happy but then when they're like 40 50 60 and have no kids

02:26:13.720 and they're just alone like i don't think they are happy but yeah like it's cute and sex in the city

02:26:20.200 but yeah you get like way older it's like okay what are you doing rachel go ahead sounded like you

02:26:25.880 wanted to come in oh i was gonna say like that's the same thing with men like aren't men like all

02:26:30.280 sad like i swear most guys i talk to it's like oh what's your like long-term goal and it's like i want

02:26:36.040 to have a house and i want to have a wife and i want to like support them and i'm like that's your

02:26:41.560 only goal and aspiration like i feel like beautiful yeah but i mean i think everyone

02:26:48.440 like really cherishes like relationships and stuff and i think it's great like obviously

02:26:52.920 no one wants to be alone but but why else are we here on earth if it's not

02:27:00.120 to be with someone else and procreate and have kids yeah i'm not arguing well you quite literally are

02:27:07.400 are you against it well what one thing that's interesting to me is when men make a lot of money

02:27:16.840 they think great i can provide for my family i can provide for my wife i can provide for my kids

02:27:24.600 when women make a lot of money they think i'm a strong independent woman that doesn't need a man

02:27:30.280 i think men tend to be more afraid of being alone when they're older than men or than women are i feel

02:27:38.440 like most women kind of have a little bit more maybe confidence i'd say well it's easier for it's

02:27:46.760 it's pretty easy for women to get men so maybe that's where that confidence is rooted in but i mean

02:27:53.400 there's there is a different biological reality where as a woman if you want to have children

02:27:58.920 you can age out of that whereas men i mean obviously if you're if you're 55 years old as a

02:28:05.880 dude it's going to be harder for you to like find a woman who's younger who wants to have kids but

02:28:12.520 you can technically as a guy at least from a purely biological level have children into your 70s and 80s

02:28:18.760 which is just a biological impossibility for women but you're also saying like as you get older like

02:28:26.360 your goals have shifted a little bit right if i'm understanding well it's because i was like i

02:28:32.200 fell for the mind virus of like when you're like be a boss babe focus on your career make money and i

02:28:38.600 do think it's a mind virus and that's what i was taught in school and college and into the mic please

02:28:44.200 now in my 30s when i was 20s there wasn't content telling like women oh this like being in your

02:28:49.560 feminine energy this is what's going to make you happy the only thing that was available was like

02:28:54.040 go be independent and make money and i tried that and i thought that's what was going to make me

02:28:58.920 happy now in my 30s i'm like oh wait i'm like 30 i want to have kids and my biological clock is ticking

02:29:05.400 okay technically yeah you could also call that your third stage of life um if you break it up into

02:29:10.520 stages because like through their 20s like yeah you really want to work towards those things and then

02:29:15.240 as you get older like yeah i guess what i'm saying is like but it's not fulfilling as a woman like

02:29:20.440 focusing on career money it's not going to be fulfilling at the end of the day i don't think

02:29:24.040 that's fulfilling for anyone like not men either so what is you said that having a family and children

02:29:30.680 is not fulfilling but you all said career is not fulfilling so what is fulfilling uh self-satisfaction

02:29:37.480 that's not a word uh just like you have to be content with yourself it's like i see it as one

02:29:42.280 day you want to become a tortoise like you're wise and you're content um huh the fuck hey i i can get

02:29:51.320 down with that tortoise have you seen dragon ball z master roshi what do you think about that like he

02:29:55.560 lives on an island all alone he's got like a house like super powerful beings come to visit him every

02:30:01.320 once in a while to train and shit and he does have like a tortoise shell on his back agree or disagree

02:30:05.720 can you play like the huh for him i don't know what this is i only control the hat sorry nick cannot

02:30:12.440 what what do you think about collateralized uh debt obligations collect collateralized debt

02:30:19.480 obligations we're talking about financial or like when you're investing relationship no like subprime

02:30:24.920 subprime mortgage loans i'm only 21 man like oh okay i don't know anything all right i'm gonna do a

02:30:32.200 couple chats here nick can you pull up twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever

02:30:36.680 drop us a follow drop us a prime sub yo jan z think for the tier one man appreciate it okay so we have

02:30:42.760 josh berg chat to violet where's the i am a gorilla shirt oh i should have wore that

02:30:50.120 if you can i should have wore that she should have wore that i'm just gonna really put this rod up on me

02:30:56.120 that's better right wait what and it's this yeah you can straddle it proper

02:31:03.560 it's not very ladylike but it feels good

02:31:13.080 okay we have this is my car face

02:31:17.160 okay what's up what's going on back there you have to go

02:31:31.880 you okay

02:31:38.680 ah bro these people asked to be on the show like they don't okay um you should have let us know that

02:31:44.760 you couldn't stay for the whole thing but okay um this is my car face canadian hundred stop talking

02:31:52.040 to her please i don't know if this wasn't we need a i think we got to move people over a little bit um

02:31:59.560 do we move violet there i think do we move no that doesn't make sense i think we move you in that seat

02:32:07.320 okay and i'll adjust the yeah just move just take that seat that's fine um yeah i mean she's being

02:32:13.720 rude anyway she was like on her phone and shit so whatever um all right uh her and thank you man the

02:32:20.760 first woman is making absolutely zero sense the reason she can't articulate her beliefs is because

02:32:25.560 she's been told and influenced what to think so when she's pressed on why she believes what she believes

02:32:30.440 she also tries to move it on to someone else okay a i already know i make like zero logical sense

02:32:37.880 most of the time when i speak so like i'm not even mad about this um also i think especially at the

02:32:44.760 beginning it's like it's hard because like i do study biopsychology so they talk a lot about this and

02:32:51.240 i'm not trying to be like a little factoid nerd and also some of my arguments i guess are not

02:32:58.120 appropriate for youtube um also i'm also like very surprised and taken about by a lot of your

02:33:08.280 guys's responses um what do you mean by that i don't i don't know this is just um you've never

02:33:17.720 heard the dissenting opinion in your life i don't know i have okay just usually i feel like i'm more

02:33:23.800 convincing you're more convincing are you i i hope um yeah i don't know i really don't okay

02:33:36.280 all right that's fine bender the offender ladies do you think that women deserve their dream man

02:33:40.440 if they have made bad decisions in their past and have a bit of an attitude

02:33:43.960 like i feel like that's so targeted as in the ladies have made the bad decisions in their past

02:33:53.640 and have the attitude did you leave oh yeah she's gone oh she had it go oh do you think that women

02:34:03.400 deserve their dream man if they made bad decisions it it depends what you consider bad decisions what

02:34:09.560 extent it's gone to uh have a bit of an attitude probably fix your attitude if you want the man that

02:34:17.160 you dream of but i don't know that's like a very broad question it is yeah i would say define what

02:34:27.080 bad decisions means and i assume that means being promiscuous and if they have a bad attitude that's

02:34:33.560 probably like they probably feel entitled and if they they are who they attract so if they've like

02:34:40.920 they're entitled have a bad attitude that's what they're going to attract it's not going to be their

02:34:44.520 dream man so if they want their dream man they have to change something it's very hard to

02:34:50.760 say you deserve your dream man because i don't think anyone is going to be your dream man

02:34:57.000 like perfectly but i think yeah if they've fixed themselves a little bit and don't have an attitude

02:35:06.840 why do you ask that bender the offender i mean for me it's like i made a lot of bad decisions i'm not

02:35:14.360 very good about making good decisions and like obviously i'd like to think that i deserve my dream man

02:35:21.480 but i also know that my dream man and men that i have loved in the past um because of the person i

02:35:29.160 am and the decisions i've made i can't have them um and it's like you always want something you can't

02:35:34.200 have so it's just working on yourself exactly did you respond to this or no um i i think you know

02:35:47.160 everyone makes i mean i guess the same could be applied to a guy like does a guy deserve his dream

02:35:54.200 girl if he's made bad decisions and has an attitude so um yeah it's i guess it's i suppose for bender

02:36:06.440 the offender we ought to define the terms okay so yeah what are we talking about when it comes to bad

02:36:10.520 decisions and what are we talking about dream man so uh here i mean a perhaps a something that

02:36:18.040 makes sense to me is hmm i'm trying to think of the criteria here and have oh so she made bad

02:36:27.080 decisions in their past so yeah let's say a past of promiscuity and she made a bunch of bad decisions

02:36:31.720 in their past her dream man i don't know what it depends what her dream man is she wants a knight in

02:36:41.560 shining armor to come rescue her after she's made a bunch of someone to provide and protect that's

02:36:46.440 probably a dream man for most women provide and protect oh i thought you said tax like they did

02:36:52.120 their taxes for a second i'm like what all right um we have praxis here brian i've looked for the what

02:37:00.040 sound bite that's on your soundboard but have had no luck thus far where can i find it is it from

02:37:06.360 one of your videos any help would be greatly appreciated i want to make it my text notification

02:37:11.160 sound thanks um it's uh i mean i just found it from a uh like a clip but i don't think you'll be

02:37:20.120 able to find it from like one of those soundboard websites because like a lot of my soundboard things

02:37:23.800 i just like got from like not soundboard websites but like just funny things that i found on i mean

02:37:30.680 some of them are soundboard shit but um yeah so fdg thank you for the argentinian 500 ladies can you

02:37:37.960 rate the rest of the panel oh wait before i think before we do that we should go around ask oh we

02:37:44.200 should have done this before she left fuck okay whatever um ask everyone to rate their looks on a

02:37:50.840 scale of one to ten go ahead ten ten sorry but this doll just just rate your own your own my own

02:37:58.840 looks yeah like how i think i look yeah what what do you think like your looks are on a scale of one to

02:38:07.080 ten depends on the day average so some days you're a 10 other days you're not yeah i well it sounded like

02:38:19.080 you're about to say 10 no no no no i like i don't know can you skip me no just answer answer the

02:38:25.640 question i i don't know the answer okay here we'll come back to you how about that go ahead um on

02:38:30.920 average i'd give myself an approachable seven okay what about you um 5.5 what violet a seven

02:38:43.240 and eight i give myself a six what about you

02:38:50.440 probably like a five then it sounded like you wanted to say 10 but you wanted to hear our answers

02:38:58.840 first so that you could maybe readjust i don't think i'm a 10 okay okay um well we have this one

02:39:06.280 from fdg ladies can you rate the rest of the panel one to ten first on looks and then personality

02:39:13.080 obviously you don't know each other but according to what you've heard so far i'd love it if you

02:39:16.120 could justify your answer can you rate the rest of the panel one to ten first on looks and then

02:39:20.440 personality um i don't know if they're open to it but i'll ask them do you want to rate all the girls

02:39:30.040 and then looks personality sure okay i mean i can so if you want to go ahead like as a collective

02:39:38.360 because like i feel like i know you guys all to like the same extent just individually just go okay

02:39:43.560 individually i think you seem like a really cool sweet person and i think you're really pretty and i

02:39:48.200 like the pattern on your dress i think it's a very nice choice um i really like your hair and your

02:39:55.640 makeup you're also very pretty um and you also seem like you wait are you talking to her now yes

02:40:01.480 you didn't rate you just made gave her compliments i'll take it yeah and like you seem like you have

02:40:06.440 a really bubbly no but she's one to ten first on looks then personality

02:40:12.520 ten and ten ten and ten um what about violet over here ten out of ten honestly i i like you seem like

02:40:20.280 you got good confidence you're doing what you do nine or six six okay um so violet what's violet

02:40:28.920 she's a she's a 10 she's a 10 10 yeah what's a little uh dude i just called you a lily what's

02:40:34.360 madison over here i mean 10 10 i feel like i don't know how to talk much but i would assume

02:40:40.760 you got a good personality you seem cool all right i'm gonna get fucking okay what about me

02:40:44.520 me i'm just kidding uh i don't want to answer this one i'm it's probably 10 out of 10. go ahead

02:40:55.320 i don't care i don't know i feel like you've been making me angry good yeah so i can feel myself

02:40:59.880 boiling over here so like it's sus it's like can i just give you a squint eye can that be like a skill

02:41:06.360 okay you dislike me like we get it um okay go ahead i do i have to do the ratings if you don't

02:41:18.760 want to that's fine do you do not want to i do not want to i'll skip it too i feel like we're all

02:41:24.200 gonna lie about it violet yeah it's good i just like don't really know like it's hard to rape

02:41:31.240 people when you don't know who they are come on you're ruthless madison what just do you want me

02:41:38.760 to do it fdg she's asking i don't want to do it can you rate the rest of the panel okay fine she

02:41:45.160 doesn't want to do it um okay all right there you have it folks wait can you rate us she said ladies

02:41:51.320 okay okay i'll rate you guys i'll just do looks i don't know if i don't know you guys well enough

02:41:58.520 for personality um let's see you asked you asked asking you shall receive um

02:42:18.040 five five six point five

02:42:32.360 the fake titties kind of give you negative points so

02:42:38.440 i don't know it's seven so i give myself seven thank you um i don't rate madison because we have a

02:42:46.280 professional working relationship so i give her a a thousand out of ten not like in a simp way

02:42:55.960 but then like i'm not going to give you my actual honest answer who's i could rate you don't worry

02:43:00.440 about it don't worry about it he accidentally called me lily don't worry about it okay don't

02:43:05.880 worry about it um okay let's see we have we do we have another chat no we have this we have ricky

02:43:13.480 marie if you're on the stream or podcast shouldn't you not have your headphones in uh

02:43:19.160 are her friends emotional support friends just seems rude i didn't even catch it till the very

02:43:23.560 end there that she had her her uh headphone in um and i i saw that she was fucking texting people

02:43:30.600 towards the end there and i was just like all right whatever dude um she wasn't really contributing

02:43:35.480 much anyway so it's so weird like a lot of people asked to be on the show put me on brian

02:43:43.240 and they don't say shit i don't know um guys have to carry the conversation though it is what it

02:43:49.880 is uh j note nicho brian rough panel tonight yep um dude we got we had so this is one of our

02:43:57.080 our we had what 10 flakes today yeah it's like the fuck bro um

02:44:03.800 uh rough panel tonight thanks for carrying the conversation it feels like a dating app in person

02:44:10.120 where do decent average looking men meet women in the social climate i hit you up on ig earlier

02:44:14.680 today think about my offer uh oh is this like the financial assistant or the uh you're like a

02:44:20.600 financial planners uh thank you man for the uh streamlined donation um i do have a question

02:44:28.600 where is a good place for if someone's not on social media and social apps where does a woman

02:44:33.800 meet a man these days i met my boyfriend at the beach nice sunshine every day in the world in the

02:44:42.040 outside world i feel like walking on the street yeah like doing hobbies and um activities i don't

02:44:49.640 know like yeah you're still expecting men to take the initiative and approach you in all those

02:44:53.400 situations though so you can ask a stranger out i wouldn't recommend it but you could do it

02:44:58.920 i like to be in my gender roles though i don't want to ask a guy out probably like just like she said

02:45:03.960 like your activities like things you do say if you're if you're christian you go to church a lot

02:45:08.280 like you probably find someone at your church that you're more into that will have the same

02:45:13.160 morals and values that you do and interests as well i mean there's probably there's probably still a

02:45:18.280 feminine way to put yourself within proximity or like of a guy that you're interested in um i mean

02:45:27.960 you can go about it very indirectly and unless the guy's totally well granted a lot of men are socially

02:45:32.760 retarded um i thought you couldn't say that word i get the pass because i'm also i i am r slurred

02:45:41.400 so i'm allowed to say it like i'm part of that community so i get the pass why are you squinting why

02:45:47.800 are you upset that i just dropped huh yeah i don't like that word you don't like that word

02:45:52.280 well we could have a debate on it but no it's okay she doesn't like the r word um back to what

02:45:57.560 you're saying why why don't you like the r word just out of curiosity because it's it's offensive

02:46:03.160 yeah i think they used to say it like all the time like in the 70s but it was just normal and

02:46:08.120 then all of a sudden it became like like offensive let me let me just respond what she's talking about

02:46:13.640 what violet is talking about is the euphemism treadmill where we come up with a new word that

02:46:20.040 is supposed to be politically correct and then through years of use people will miss will misuse

02:46:27.320 it to refer to like someone in an insulting way and through that um like idiot or what what is it um

02:46:40.200 retard used to be i'm gonna get canceled like that used to be a medical term um now it's viewed

02:46:47.880 in this like very derogatory way also isn't there something from uh you don't call retarded people

02:46:55.160 retards it's bad taste you call your friends retards when they're acting retarded

02:47:03.880 do you disagree or like i mean i have used it in a medical science in biology like whoa that's kind

02:47:09.400 of inappropriate like are you referring to people who are r slurred as r slurs no it's like that's

02:47:14.360 really inappropriate like psychomotor i think mentally handicapped wait what's the appropriate

02:47:19.720 word like mentally they use the word what's the appropriate word now special needs oh yeah special

02:47:26.920 needs yeah it's the euphemism treadmill and now in like now that's probably in 10 years is going to be

02:47:32.440 deemed like inappropriate so well it's just like because people misuse it like you were saying it's

02:47:37.800 like once you start using it derogatorily yeah but i don't think people use that word like directed at

02:47:43.800 people who are actually like mentally uh handicapped i feel like even mentally handicapped

02:47:49.720 now is not appropriate i don't know what the but it actually has like a definition in the medical field

02:47:54.360 well french like okay so i was born in france i speak french at like a r slurred level and

02:48:03.400 like retard it's like slow or to slow down that's what it means in french

02:48:10.280 to pop francais well yeah that's also psychomotor retardation like that's actual like well that also

02:48:16.200 refers to like like no even like here like in the dsm-5 like that's still how it's like it defines

02:48:27.560 it's kind of like how did we get onto our slur thing i brought it up what did i say it's like

02:48:33.080 oh you said that and then she just said that she didn't like she squinted you're saying how you were

02:48:37.240 like i'm yeah that i'm r slurred yeah why can't i call myself r slurred am i i feel like it's like

02:48:46.360 the term like if you're calling say like a woman fat like that used to be or i'm like now you say

02:48:53.720 like bbw why did you save this until now what now you're gonna like take a stand on that acceptance

02:49:04.200 after she left bro i was just bro she didn't want you didn't want the fucking no we were on the

02:49:11.720 conversation topic of saying how the r word has been like it's been how it's like super offensive

02:49:18.680 now because like people misuse it and like that's why i'm just referring to like but like you know

02:49:23.640 people used to be like oh that's so gay you know yeah watch out watch out with that one

02:49:29.240 watch out it's not that bad to say you're such a fucking bigot violet what the fuck i'm just oh my

02:49:38.120 no i believe in free speech and you know i say you're gonna get canceled violet watch out i don't

02:49:44.680 don't okay i don't think you can cancel me but she's uncancelable she is uncancelable you can't

02:49:51.960 cancel women i think i think you can't cancel or like once you've seen their butthole like you can't

02:49:55.960 really can once you've seen a woman's butthole okay where were we where were we was i reading

02:50:05.080 chats yeah i was reading chats okay i think we got through all of them um let's see okay i'm coming

02:50:12.360 back to uh we were oh um would you guys date somebody who legally owned a firearm starting

02:50:18.360 with you i've never asked someone if they legally own a firearm that's not the question i don't know

02:50:27.320 i've never thought about that let's say you found out a guy owned a firearm would you because like i

02:50:33.400 maybe you have a position on guns like personally i don't like guns um i understand that people

02:50:41.080 have them i've like okay what about like a significant other who if if your position is

02:50:48.200 you don't like guns would you then not want to date somebody who was a gun owner and who was like pro

02:50:54.920 gun it depends on the extent like if they're like super like yeah guns like that's that's not attractive

02:51:01.240 but it's like i understand like some people find comfort in having like a gun in their house

02:51:06.120 for self-protection the right to bear arms um and like stuff like that it's like you know

02:51:13.160 you do you but i mean being like super gunman like that's personally i don't find that characteristic

02:51:20.120 attractive okay so yes you would date a guy who owns a gun sure okay back up what about you um i feel

02:51:31.480 like my position has changed on this i used to be very like no guns and then i went on i dated this

02:51:39.240 guy for a while who took me to like a shooting range and like his grandpa was like a cop retired cop

02:51:47.640 and then he kind of showed me like oh like you can use guns in a responsible way and like it was

02:51:53.080 actually kind of fun like going shooting with him so to answer the question yes i would date a guy who

02:51:58.360 owns firearms i think there's a reason for the second amendment and yeah i would and i would

02:52:05.960 want someone that i'm with to be able to like protect and gun is a form of protection

02:52:13.080 violet yes i am too so oh she i would like to know do you want to like are you talking about

02:52:19.800 these guns you want to flex oh wait oh it's not very flexy wow you just missed it nick okay i what

02:52:29.480 she you huh he missed your gun show oh i was like madison what about you yes okay um let's see

02:52:40.760 have any of you ever had a sugar daddy

02:52:46.920 um unintentionally unintentionally was it the guy who was your biatch yeah yeah what about you have

02:52:54.280 you sugar daddy nope sugar daddy no violet i'm assuming all of my subscribers are my sugar daddies

02:53:01.400 all her subs are the sugar daddies okay um because i mean there's obviously a difference though there's

02:53:08.280 like people who subscribe to you on of but then there's people who you have a bit more of a

02:53:15.960 conversation with i assume right and then no everything i do is for my content like okay

02:53:23.240 it's transactional through that i don't go off to the side and what's the most the guys like

02:53:27.800 ever tipped you or just like sent you out of the blue like here's a thousand bucks anything like that

02:53:32.120 yeah i think someone's tipped me like 5 000 just like in a night just to be nice and that's amazing

02:53:38.440 like wow thank you good times um good times but yeah what's like the weirdest requests you've all of

02:53:46.760 you have gotten from a guy random question oh uh i won't talk about that one because it's like they like

02:53:56.360 it it's mean it's just like um pooping they want you to know on them and i would never do that just

02:54:03.560 because i i i'll like pee but i won't poop on them is that what no just like on camera oh yeah oh yeah

02:54:10.600 i've heard that before yeah that's crazy it's just haram

02:54:17.320 i've never peed on anyone or had anyone pee on me i i've i've done like content where i go out in like

02:54:23.240 nature and i pee and then i record it and yeah it's fun but of doesn't allow that actually they

02:54:31.560 don't allow peeing really that's where that's where only fans draws the line or sticking like

02:54:37.240 your panties inside of you they don't allow that they don't allow that yeah and i'm like what so

02:54:43.400 it's such a like wow common fantasy to like stuff your panties why would that that's so like i

02:54:49.400 could kind of see the peeing thing but why would putting your panties because they don't want

02:54:56.280 other objects that aren't like dildos or dicks inside of you oh so it's like a catch-all thing

02:55:02.840 yeah i see because they don't want people like okay i think that kind of makes more sense wait so

02:55:08.920 they're shoving your underwear inside of you yeah it's like shoving my own panties in my

02:55:14.040 pussy i feel like that's like a clown trick you start pulling them out you know but

02:55:20.280 do you never heard that no i actually started on snapchat um that was where i started and

02:55:26.920 when i worked for nudies i posted on the nudies app and that's where i uploaded my content until

02:55:34.200 2020 when i started posting on of yeah word word okay i'm gonna bring it back here to our good friend

02:55:44.040 rachel so rachel uh can you tell us a bit more like how would you make that guy your biatch

02:55:55.000 um like would you just talk disrespectfully to him like boss him around type shit that's the thing is i

02:56:00.680 literally did nothing and the thing is is i would yell at him and like it sounds terrible technically it's

02:56:07.080 domestic violence but sometimes i get angry and i'd slap him but it's like because like i don't know i get

02:56:13.240 so frustrated um and it was frustrating because every time i got frustrated he just sit there and

02:56:19.240 smile and be like i know it has nothing to do with me you're just going through things and i was like

02:56:23.160 no but i'm i'm literally mad at you um you were mad at him yeah so were you the toxic one or was it

02:56:31.480 mutually toxic i mean i would say technically i was i was toxic but that toxicity came out came from

02:56:38.760 the unintentional toxicity um it's like when someone cares about you to an unhealthy extent

02:56:49.080 it kind of makes you a little crazy um a lot of crazy and it's like i know i was a terrible person

02:56:55.880 to that individual but also a lot of the things that they did to me were like very unforgivable

02:57:00.840 so yeah so you hit hit them yeah nothing like hard or bad is wayne brady gonna have to choke a

02:57:11.800 bitch awesome did you ever choke no no but i guess like that's the thing too is like even with like

02:57:19.000 question was this non-reciprocal like he didn't touch you at all and but he made you angry in some way

02:57:25.640 and you would walk up to him and hit him like slap him across the face what do you mean not in the

02:57:29.960 face like in the arm you know kind of like you do with your siblings but like but no but this was

02:57:34.760 like an upset hit yeah um it was nothing like hard nothing that left a bruise also it's like one of

02:57:40.440 those things where it's like oh like he hit me and stuff during sex because that's like a sexy thing

02:57:45.480 and it would leave what you wanted it though right i mean i'm really apathetic about most things um

02:57:52.040 okay i mean usually there's conversations about that sort of stuff but yeah so i think also that kind

02:57:56.840 of added a lot of pented up anger also he would like tickle me all the time and like not not stop

02:58:03.640 which also like i don't know i think a lot of that also kind of built up as like a lot of like huh

02:58:09.320 huh you know it's like that just extra energy going into your good slapping hand sure um let's see

02:58:17.560 something about i don't think the whole you got invited to a party with a bunch of old dudes and got

02:58:23.080 disinvited i don't know that one's not you okay you got invited to a sex party with a bunch of old

02:58:28.680 men you got disinvited because you offered to bring viagra or you asked excuse me if you should bring

02:58:35.560 viagra did you have viagra i mean it's easy you can just go to like 7-eleven pick it up um i think

02:58:42.120 viagra you need a prescription from a doctor it's not otc i didn't know i mean they have those like weird

02:58:47.880 rhino pills or whatever i've which i don't i don't think that's what's what is the uh generic

02:58:54.920 of viagra is it sildenafil god now the chat's gonna be wondering why i know this i just listen

02:59:00.440 i'm i'm a uh i'm a man of i've been educated um okay um but yeah they do sell stuff that like

02:59:12.360 does that shit work i've never taken any of that gas station rhino fucking pill whatever uh

02:59:20.840 okay um you let's see you said you tried sex workout but realized that the immediate gratification

02:59:27.400 of cash money probably was not worth it in terms of long-term effects um what do you mean by you

02:59:32.680 tried sex workout what does that mean um god i don't even know if i should be like saying this on

02:59:38.760 camera it's cool you got a sex worker right here solidarity i mean it's it's it's like a little

02:59:45.560 bit different than that what are you talking about what kind of what are we talking about here

02:59:50.600 talking like sugar baby type shit are you talking about like um are you talking like prostitution

02:59:58.920 we'll just say i found this person the same way i found you um craigslist

03:00:09.160 okay i don't know um i found through craigslist what was the craig what did the craigslist ad say

03:00:17.480 or did you put up the craigslist ad saying i'm selling my pussy for 50 dollars no no the craigslist ad

03:00:23.880 was uh looking for someone to help with catering gigs like poolside catering gigs with like

03:00:31.080 bougie people um also helping like cater at poker events and stuff and i was like oh that sounds

03:00:38.120 really cool but they needed like pictures of me for i guess the uh

03:00:45.640 was it like a it was like a bikini oh no catering gig you had to be in a bikini

03:00:51.000 it was a they did ask about bikinis but i didn't have to show any of my body or anything like that

03:00:55.720 and i guess the guy liked me and wanted me as his assistant as he put it oh so he's like a

03:01:01.720 bullshit fake craigslist ad and he was trying to get women through a craigslist ad i mean i've heard

03:01:08.280 of this that's usually used was it a talent gig uh no i would consider it close to waitressing originally

03:01:15.640 wait so did you initially did you do the actual job oh no no so he asked for a photo okay so it's

03:01:23.240 like a scam but he wanted to fuck that's so weird um bro get fucking tinder you dork okay yeah when i

03:01:29.800 was 17 i almost got fooled into a craigslist photo shoot also and they were like it's just gonna be

03:01:35.160 my apartment and i was like yeah that's super sketchy um yeah but so but you said you tried sex work

03:01:43.640 out so i'm a little confused because the way you're telling the story makes it sound like you

03:01:48.920 accidentally got baited but you said you tried it out so what do you mean you like i went for the bait

03:01:55.160 but um was there other besides this anecdote were there other situations where you tried sex work out

03:02:01.400 um i mean to an extent but it's like usually not like full execution it's like preparation if you

03:02:14.120 will man i don't know what do you mean i'm being overly vague like just just go for it bro we got

03:02:20.680 we got violet here she she pees on people or sorry you don't do that my bad she yeah she wants to

03:02:28.120 in nature in nature in nature she she pees in nature bro she's got you beat you're good spill the

03:02:34.120 beans i pee in nature all the time like yeah it's become very like okay thank goodness okay i don't

03:02:42.360 care about the peeing thing i just you said that you've tried out sex work what have you done

03:02:49.160 um i let's okay the man has a wife who is career focused and would not sleep with him

03:03:06.840 and i think it's even sadder the fact that he had to pay someone else to then do that for him

03:03:14.840 how did you meet him did that craigslist for him uh actually no i never actually

03:03:23.160 fucked him thank goodness but old men are really easy to um how much money did he pay you to not

03:03:29.800 fuck him i mean honestly not enough because i actually had no idea how much you were supposed

03:03:35.240 to charge for that um what did you you just talk to him no i just like you met up with him did you meet

03:03:42.200 up with him yes did you do anything sexual with him yes what did you do um ej yeah and like it was

03:03:51.320 super easy it was like very quick didn't take much time how old was he uh he said he was 39 yeah okay um

03:04:01.640 which is like not that old it's not that much wait so how much did he charge or did you charge if i

03:04:09.880 say it's gonna make me sound really sad no judgment this is a judgment free zone i mean i made like

03:04:17.400 129 and then 100 129 did you add on 99 cents at the end of that or no like 129 and then another time

03:04:27.480 100 129 okay he how did you you said you met him on craigslist yes they've took it i'm pretty sure on

03:04:35.720 craigslist there's no more of these like there used to be like a uh dating thing like a classifieds

03:04:42.120 on craigslist but that's been gone for a long time bro everything's on craigslist you search gigs it's

03:04:47.000 like one person was like oh i want to build my photography portfolio and like i like photography

03:04:51.800 so i offered to help i was like but you have to show me like a actual portfolio like evidence that

03:04:56.520 you're a photographer and it was like all ladies naked i also had someone who wants to pay me to

03:05:03.640 be their friend like i'm done with craigslist like this is sad this is making me sad

03:05:11.960 i need to stop talking the the guy the guy who you went over to his house who had the wife who was

03:05:17.320 busy with her job whatever um you met him on craigslist what was his ad it was the one to like

03:05:23.800 help like you know serving like help what like uh doing like the catering you know oh it was that

03:05:31.720 guy yeah but he wanted pictures because it was poolside and it wasn't pictures on my body but he

03:05:38.520 didn't think i was a five out of ten so oh yeah he just asked for other things

03:05:44.840 was it a legitimate job but then he yeah transitioned into it was a little bit it was

03:05:55.400 a legitimate job it did not last long enough for the execution of the actual job itself the actual

03:06:01.960 job discussion so you did you go over for an interview i'm trying to understand like timeline

03:06:06.280 here you never actually did any catering you went over to his house to meet him for an interview

03:06:10.920 mm-hmm and then he was like i actually don't need you to help me with my non-existent catering

03:06:21.720 business i'll give you 129 for a bj i mean the interview process i it was kind of like already

03:06:30.680 insinuated that it was like after the pictures that's when he was like oh i want you to be my

03:06:34.520 assistant instead and then assistant was the other thing and then i went over there and for

03:06:40.840 my interview i got my 129 and then the other time i went came out with 100 and oh you went another

03:06:48.600 time yeah it wasn't until one of my housemates made a joke about me having old man come in my mouth

03:06:54.280 and i was super baked and then i thought about that for a long time and i was like yeah i'm not i

03:06:57.960 don't like that so yeah that's that

03:07:00.120 i love old man come bro violet what the

03:07:09.720 violet's probably like the chillest like sex worker we've ever had on the panel on the show

03:07:16.520 um wait so okay first off like i want to hold men accountable too it's pretty i think it's pretty

03:07:27.320 kind of scummy to like put a lit supposedly jaw a legitimate job offering on craigslist

03:07:37.080 and then like try to maneuver that into getting pussy like that's my guy there is tinder there is hinge

03:07:50.680 there is bumble there are dating apps so it's sleazy i'm just confused like

03:07:59.160 did you he kissed like a straight girl that is like a nice way to put it so like he what

03:08:05.960 i said he kissed like a straight girl who who what he kissed oh he kissed like a straight girl yeah that's

03:08:13.400 just like a figure speech you kissed him yeah like he was wait so how did the whole conversation

03:08:21.400 about the money exchange go down i don't know i'd have to look through my text messages

03:08:28.520 sure pull it up really yeah do you want me to go grab my phone nick can you grab it do you know where

03:08:33.080 it is nick can grab it for you it has a green snail on it nick will grab it um it should oh so wait but

03:08:40.520 i thought this would have been a conversation in person it's the gray one with this this was not

03:08:47.400 a conversation in person no this craigslist journey has just been around here right yeah that's why i'm

03:08:54.840 like there's a lot of sad men in the bar bro i'm like oh man um it's not like i have a problem with it

03:09:01.800 like i'm definitely like pro sex work and stuff like that i think it's just like for me i also have

03:09:07.720 like an unhealthy relationship with sex so i think i've realized that's what i mean by like

03:09:13.560 long-term versus short-term like i was like oh this is really great like i'm fine with this i'm

03:09:17.640 having fun with this but then i kind of realized oh in the long run like this isn't gonna be good

03:09:22.120 for me like for my mental health and also like it made me feel a little um i don't know yeah like i

03:09:30.840 think about it and i was like oh what would my dad think like which sounds dumb but it's like

03:09:35.800 you met him you met him for the the first time before you went over to his house was it clear

03:09:41.400 that he was like romantically or sexually interested in you yes so had you before you went over to his

03:09:51.720 house did you was there a negotiation on price for the what you were going there to do i guess

03:10:02.760 yeah i don't know i didn't really negotiate much because i didn't really know what i was like

03:10:07.400 getting into here let's read the text go ahead okay oh okay well why did why did here oh my god bro

03:10:16.200 where is it i don't know oh yes oh i'm so sorry fireworks my god bro i know it's not guns

03:10:31.560 oh no okay

03:10:36.920 can you like scoot into the table or something the mic's blocking you

03:10:39.800 get nice and close again on the topic of sex work i guess like what made you want to start

03:10:57.560 um nothing i was there was never a decision like today i'm gonna it's d-day you know um i think i just

03:11:05.720 i just i left my hometown when i was 17 and i really wanted to just road trip and figure things

03:11:15.000 out i just graduated high school early so i was just a mess and so i was like i just want to make

03:11:21.480 some money and go on the road and so i started um chatting with some guys on snapchat um and i got

03:11:30.600 forty dollars and i hit the road and then it all started you got forty dollars for what for sexting

03:11:37.800 with a guy and he came and then it was he was like three minutes in and he was like okay i came thanks

03:11:45.000 here's 40 bucks so i was like whoa i can hit the road and i was like so excited and i went to vegas

03:11:51.720 and life on easy mud yeah so from october of 2017 to february of 2018 i was just living on the road

03:12:05.720 making content and that's when uh nudies discovered me and i signed with them and moved to phoenix got

03:12:14.520 my first apartment okay yeah uh all right let's go back to your text so

03:12:18.680 i mean there's like obviously normal job conversation and then the relevance so he was

03:12:28.280 like i'd pay 50 to 75 for an interview in person with potential for you to make more and i was like

03:12:34.040 start off with 75 and i'll show you why i'm worth more because i was like i'm better than 75 dollars

03:12:39.400 for an hour i had no idea what somebody for the interview yeah for the interview just for one

03:12:44.680 interview yeah you typically don't get paid for an interview and he was like i'll spend i'll spend

03:12:49.960 30 minutes showing um he's like spend 30 minutes showing me why you were worth it and possibly hiring

03:12:54.840 you on the spot i'm like it it wasn't even 30 minutes i made more than 75 dollars um so when you

03:13:02.680 read that text you already know that he wanted something more yeah my sister is now texting me i don't

03:13:08.280 like this i'm like i don't know if she's watching right now oh yeah she is okay um

03:13:18.200 okay besides the point basically yeah that's that's how that went

03:13:23.720 brian hates today i feel so bad it's like pulling teeth with you guys it's hard because like i don't

03:13:30.440 know i have like people out there watching also technically that's illegal and like

03:13:35.160 like also i'm just like sussed out i'm trying to be a better person i'm just okay so you had the

03:13:42.040 first the first meeting he paid you 129 dollars but then you went back to see him again he paid you

03:13:49.160 100 yes and that was the extent of your interaction with him yes what happened on the that was a

03:13:54.840 subsequent bj uh yeah that was fine and then like i don't know that's when what was what it was

03:14:02.200 so head yeah for okay this is so easy um but the thing is is like afterwards that's when i got high

03:14:10.600 in my room i maybe said that and then i kind of contemplated everything and then there's just like

03:14:15.640 a long long long thread of text messages of him just making himself look really really really pathetic

03:14:22.040 him the guy yes is that the only is that the only guy that you tried sex work with i mean

03:14:28.360 in high school the guy i lost my virginity to so badly wanted to

03:14:32.200 fuck that um obviously i wasn't planning on actually fucking him but i kept just

03:14:38.120 seeing how high of put the phone somewhere else please holy fuck i'm getting so fucking triggered

03:14:43.800 guys i'm sorry um okay continue um i just kept like seeing how high he would make it even though i

03:14:51.240 wasn't actually gonna execute it because i don't know i was in high school but i thought it was funny

03:14:55.240 so it was not sex work i guess no technically not outside of that it's like i guess everything's been

03:15:05.560 free that's why a lot of the times when people call me a whore i like to be like actually i'm a

03:15:10.120 slut because i don't charge but i also that was part of my change of mind as i was like shoot i can't keep

03:15:16.200 saying that that's kind of funny okay um

03:15:25.240 uh

03:15:28.200 so you said that you've tried sex work but was it just this weird sleazy dude was that it or were there

03:15:35.240 other instances well no there was just that and then like other people on craigslist i was

03:15:43.480 planning on or thinking about executing but i've had a shift in my my mindset

03:15:50.680 so you did engage in sex work with other people

03:15:57.800 not an execution only the one there is that answering your question did any other men pay you for your

03:16:05.080 uh sexual attention no men should men should they should what do you mean by that i feel like

03:16:16.040 sometimes i'm doing god's work like sometimes i'm like damn i really threw you a bone

03:16:19.880 what do you mean i don't know um i've just been with like men of all shapes and sizes and also

03:16:31.560 sometimes i take pity on men and so i am generous you fuck men because you pity them you just sometimes

03:16:41.240 they feel bad are your parents still together no was there any childhood trauma yes okay checks out um

03:16:52.920 so

03:16:53.080 god bro holy fuck i don't even know where to uh okay um

03:17:02.760 i don't even know what to say bro okay hold on let me do a couple

03:17:14.280 sure let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow drop us a prime sub

03:17:19.080 uh did i say steve-o jan think for the tier one duck man think for the prime nibble muncher think for

03:17:27.480 the prime uh jennifer think for the prime uh chroma think for the prime uh peps think for the prime

03:17:34.840 twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow drops the prime sub if you have one uh okay um also we have a

03:17:42.920 chat here i believe from errol collins i'm violet's sugar daddy love you girl he is love you do you know

03:17:50.200 errol collins yes that's master errol and master errol yes love him he's the best he wants to be called

03:17:56.440 master yes okay that's only if he pays you money that'll write yes okay we have an agreement how much

03:18:03.560 does he he's your sugar daddy no yes he's on my he's one of your subs okay he's very loyal subscriber

03:18:11.080 love him okay um the whole craigslist thing is wild to me that's that's some wild stuff um uh

03:18:25.720 okay um you said you slept with a dude out of spite because he called you a what

03:18:33.400 yeah you got that word that i hey she was a whoa i can't argue it anymore she was a whoa

03:18:39.000 um do you think you're a whore well now technically by definition i have done that

03:18:47.720 um i see it as a profession uh i feel like it can only be used in a professional context uh

03:18:55.880 outside of that you know it's a little offensive uh i would say

03:19:01.720 i mean yeah i guess i am uh but basically what happened was when everything was going on with my

03:19:08.120 open relationship which ended up only being open by one end is i'm jewish and i was at chabad a very

03:19:15.400 holy place and i was having a conversation with my friend sorry keep going about you know the relationship

03:19:23.800 drama and then uh one of my friends there called me a whore which i was very surprised by especially

03:19:31.160 considering the fact that chabad is like very orthodox um and so then about a year later i

03:19:37.400 matched with him on tinder because like every time i see someone i know i like to swipe right

03:19:40.600 because i think it's funny um and he hit me up and like wanted to hang out and i was like if

03:19:46.120 i was like i don't know if this man's trying to sleep with me or what and i went over there

03:19:50.600 and he was like talking to me like all flirty which was really confusing me and you know

03:19:55.720 obviously i could not stop laughing i was like this is so weird um but you know one thing led to

03:20:01.080 a next and um yeah it was funny because he was like went to put on a condom and i laughed and then

03:20:09.800 he's like why are you laughing i was like no reason and then afterwards when he went to take it off i

03:20:14.840 started laughing really hard and i was like because i was just talking to my sister about how i should be

03:20:19.400 using those and he kind of freaked out and then i proceeded to tell him a bunch of you know horror

03:20:24.440 stories like me shitting in a guy's bed um oh you've told that story too many times stop telling

03:20:29.240 that story yeah can we not talk about that um wait well no but so hold on let me let me ask a

03:20:36.600 couple clarifying questions here yes the guy you were okay he called you a hua and then you were

03:20:45.400 determined because he called you that it was like you wanted to spite fuck him you wanted to sleep with

03:20:51.000 him out of revenge yes and you did yes and then when he why why did you laugh when he wanted to

03:20:57.720 wear a condom oh because you're like because it was just funny because that same day i was talking to

03:21:02.760 my sister about how much you raw dog yes um and how like that's something i should be using um and so i

03:21:10.680 was like were you on birth control yes yes i am okay um so i was just like oh this makes makes the

03:21:16.760 revenge even greater i thought it was hilarious like he got kind of i could tell very uncomfortable

03:21:23.160 and was kind of trying to push me out the door um i don't know i thought it was really good revenge

03:21:28.760 i thought it was funny you said evil plan went so well that he kicked me out of his house what part was

03:21:33.880 what was the evil plan uh showing him showing him a whore he called me a whore i was like fine you

03:21:39.800 want to sleep with a whore i'll show you a whore and it freaked him out so your idea of getting revenge

03:21:44.840 was letting him hit i'll show you a whore yeah and then he kicked you out of his house yes i thought

03:21:55.640 i mean it was wait so but but your revenge was making him come that's revenge to you is that a w

03:22:06.200 is that the w no my thing is is like you don't just call a woman a whore and then want to turn

03:22:11.480 around and sleep with them oh so you were like trying to prove him like he's he's a hypocrite

03:22:18.440 because he called me a whore do you do realize that men will fuck whores yeah i i've learned that now um

03:22:26.280 but so what was the did you actually that was the revenge it was you wanted to sleep with him out of

03:22:30.440 spite because he called you a whore yes i thought it was hilarious especially because like i even brought

03:22:35.720 it up to him and he was like no no like i never call a woman that all this stuff and like blah blah

03:22:41.400 blah blah blah blah because he's like one of those kinds of guys so he called you a whore and then just

03:22:47.400 like and just this this light bulb over your head came up and you're like i want to fuck this guy

03:22:55.960 well i didn't really want to necessarily fuck him at the time you know it worked out that way and i was

03:23:01.320 like this is this is great revenge you i thought it was funny is that a w for a woman to fuck a guy

03:23:09.880 she does not like that sounds like kind of an l that's kind of an l it felt like a win to me did

03:23:16.920 he come you said before that like women can have sex with like anyone they want yeah so why would you

03:23:22.280 have sex with him also now i know some weird kinky shit about him too so it's like i got dirt

03:23:26.360 stop it get some help

03:23:38.520 i'm a little speechless okay where oh can only like i feel like it's only men that can spite

03:23:44.840 fuck i don't think women can spite fuck because if like you spite fuck us like still hit though like

03:23:51.400 it's still a w i mean no that's not true it's like i've you showed him how did you show did you

03:23:58.360 give him herpes is that what no i could maybe that do you have no i am a clean individual sir do not

03:24:06.280 was he like you're a whore i don't i don't fuck whores is that why it was revenge yeah that's just

03:24:12.120 kind of saying there's no way he said that and it's like not the idea but it's like the whole like

03:24:18.520 that's just his personality like that's the kind of guy that he is it's like that's the same thing

03:24:23.400 it's like i don't know like when i got out of my seven month relationship i then also turned around

03:24:28.440 and slept with a bunch of people because i knew that was the last thing he wanted like that's also

03:24:31.480 kind of the same thing right a little revenge a little bigger of a rent revenge is that really a w

03:24:37.560 to like no is that a w to just go and fuck a bunch of dudes who you don't care about and they

03:24:42.840 don't care about you to get back at your ex-boyfriend no that's what i'm learning with age that's what i'm

03:24:48.280 talking about new mindset going places bettering ourselves uh wait it's okay

03:24:57.960 did you like was it did you like fuck him really well the guy who called you a whore

03:25:06.200 bro that's a w for the guy how is that revenge

03:25:10.280 you're like you'll you'll never get this whore pussy again i thought it was hilarious i

03:25:18.600 i mean yeah that too also it's really crazy did you did you ss d ss d did you ss d what does that

03:25:25.160 mean did you s his d blowy in the holy oh i don't remember you were you drunk no were you high no how do

03:25:34.760 you not remember if you ss d because like sometimes you there was p in the v it sounds

03:25:39.240 like there was p in the v yeah there was v on the p it's just yeah i don't know if you if you

03:25:45.800 fuck like you don't necessarily have to remember every time you fuck so you're telling okay i did

03:25:51.480 not fuck him again though you wanted to sleep with him out of spite yes you hooked up with him really

03:25:57.720 quick and then he your evil plan went so well that he kicked you out of his house yes doesn't that kind

03:26:05.160 of sound like a w for the dude i thought i thought it was funny i mean i guess it did come around and

03:26:13.000 bite me in the ass you thought it was funny because is sex like a funny thing to you is it just like such

03:26:19.960 a casual it's just like a handshake yeah have you totally detached intimacy from sex yes that's kind

03:26:28.120 of depressing yeah wow i'm not gonna deny that do you want to get married one day yeah that's also why

03:26:37.640 um i don't know no i have a cat if i have a child it will take attention away from my cat no i won't do

03:26:43.160 that i don't know um i probably won't get married but that's okay i'm perfectly content with that have

03:26:55.400 you ever spite fucked any other guys like i hate this guy so much like do you it's like you've been

03:27:02.040 squinting at me a lot like do you kind of want to spite fuck me no a little bit no i've pissed you

03:27:07.640 off beyond the point of no return kind of like a guy's climax we've it's beyond the point of no

03:27:14.600 return i've said too many not because i'm like i you could be like brian let me go s your d right

03:27:23.720 now and i'd turn you down yeah because i'm a five out of ten no just like your past disqualifies you

03:27:29.880 from even anything sexual but well yeah that's also why i probably won't get married based did you

03:27:35.960 just say piss based i said based what does that mean um never mind

03:27:44.440 at least you know failed failed society at least you're taking that into account

03:27:50.840 are you okay no

03:27:54.840 what's what's wrong with you too many things what is wrong are you okay holy okay

03:28:05.960 say it say what you want to say brian mm-hmm yeah you're you're a deeply damaged individual

03:28:16.680 i'm not saying that to be mean but like this is like very

03:28:20.760 intense shit you're talking about yeah i also wasn't expecting this to be live

03:28:25.320 up these

03:28:28.040 yeah i kind of feel bad for her because she came and she was like i have no idea what

03:28:31.480 this thing is i just found him on craigslist yeah yeah you know we got we we're putting ads on

03:28:41.720 various places to get people for to be on the show so um uh let's see okay um

03:28:51.080 bro what the frick um

03:28:53.960 um i should have put less things on that list no this is great this is wonderful um

03:29:02.360 because see i feel like a lot of people have your kind of stories but they would never

03:29:09.800 they would never admit this shit so i mean i first off without endorsing some of these things you've done

03:29:16.440 i have to give you credit for your forthcomingness your openness your honesty

03:29:26.360 it's

03:29:30.280 you know i mean i'll stride with pride like i'm not gonna lie like a lot of it's like funny at

03:29:36.520 least i think it's funny i laugh at it it's funny yeah i laugh at my own life it's an ongoing

03:29:42.280 joke wait question huh okay so kind of overall though so you said you've had like a lot of

03:29:47.880 experiences right let's talk about body count do you think it's wrong for a guy to judge a woman

03:29:55.560 on her body count like to not want to be with a girl because she's had a lot of previous sexual

03:29:59.880 partners yeah because it's like a huge double standard what if it's not though like it could be

03:30:05.560 but what if it's not like not a double standard youth um i mean yeah with some guys it's it's not

03:30:15.400 a double standard um

03:30:20.920 yeah i don't know i just don't think um things tend to work out when people are on different pages

03:30:27.480 like even with my friends i found that relationships are hard when people are not

03:30:31.400 like it's not about being sexually compatible it's like also sometimes like people care a lot about

03:30:38.280 experience too like because jealousy can derive from those types of things along with like

03:30:45.880 spite or judgment so what i found is like most of the time when people kind of

03:30:51.880 have those things in common there's less um complaint question mark i don't know do you object to

03:31:01.480 men caring about body count uh i think it's if he's gonna ask about my body count then i feel

03:31:13.400 like okay i'm gonna look here oh okay um then i guess i would want to know his body count

03:31:23.560 so do you think it's like immature or instant insecure for a guy to care about body count

03:31:27.640 i think yeah okay yeah

03:31:33.560 yeah

03:31:37.000 body count for men and women is different and i feel like part of a woman's value comes from her purity

03:31:43.720 so you don't object to men like caring about body count no violet what about you

03:31:53.480 i think men and women can care about body count i think it's a little like unclassy to ask you know

03:32:00.440 like in regular people sense but if you're coming to someone like a sex worker like you definitely

03:32:05.560 should ask i think it's very responsible a guy a guy should ask a woman who's a sex worker her body

03:32:12.920 count yes oh okay madison i don't object okay if they're planning on having sex together yeah i think

03:32:21.880 it's important okay so some of you said body count doesn't matter um if body count doesn't matter

03:32:29.960 what's your body count i only count certain things it's 35

03:32:39.720 what do you mean you only count certain things i don't know like i count it as i think what the

03:32:45.880 definition is i just know some people yeah in the v i just know a lot of people that define it

03:32:50.760 differently than that if that makes sense do you mean like some people will define it like they'll

03:32:56.440 only count long-term relationships or they won't count one night stands like some people will

03:33:01.080 count like oral and stuff like that too should we do let's do p in the v count and s-ing the d

03:33:09.400 count oh i i i've lost count of that i don't know well okay so p in the v what's your p in the v

03:33:16.520 count 35 what's your s-ing the d count i don't know estimate

03:33:26.440 what's your s-ing the d count maybe like into the mic

03:33:32.200 oh 40

03:33:39.080 ish

03:33:41.640 40 ish 40 ish i really have no idea so 100 plus i don't know could be just kidding well because i mean

03:33:50.440 you said you know 35 for p and the v yeah but it sounded like it would be much higher s-ing the d

03:33:57.400 because you've forgotten well yeah because i have a list in my diary of people i've fought so you have

03:34:04.040 you have a diary it's not really can we see it can you scan me a fax me a copy or some

03:34:10.440 shit you'll just look at it and be like what would you write do you like write a page do you just have

03:34:15.480 like a one-line entry uh oliver this date his penis was this big oh no i don't take notes on the guys

03:34:25.240 um you just name that's it and then everything else in there is like completely unrelated yeah okay

03:34:32.520 um

03:34:37.640 okay um

03:34:41.320 35 would you say because you're 21 right like of your female friends do you think that

03:34:46.600 like 35 is pretty typical no i most of the people i um hang out with

03:34:53.800 are different in than me in that sense my best friend from home like we're very similar

03:35:06.200 in those ways um i'm also not from california and i feel like things people's mindsets here might be

03:35:13.480 different or at least all the people i've met since i've been at school are a bit different

03:35:18.280 okay so 35 body count okay uh becca what about you um

03:35:30.520 can we pass no can't pass cool cool got it um i would say total body count probably around 20

03:35:41.640 around 20 yeah yeah

03:35:50.680 and not something i want to share she said it does matter violet

03:35:58.360 um i don't think i'm comfortable sharing here tell us what violet's body count is and tell us what

03:36:03.880 elizabeth's body count is like i've been doing sex work for since i was 18 so i've done a lot of

03:36:10.760 shows and stuff but um it doesn't mean my sex my body count is like really high it doesn't mean

03:36:17.800 it's low it just it is what it is also why did you make her have to answer and not them too

03:36:24.360 i mean i can't force her to answer it seemed like she was pretty definitive

03:36:28.280 i mean do you wanna is it it's one at least one right

03:36:31.960 mm-hmm okay violet i assume it's at least one for you too

03:36:40.280 i don't know i'll be right back i need proof madison madison hello

03:36:48.440 oh are you gonna answer the question or eight

03:36:52.200 okay i need to get up really quick um if there's anything you guys want to talk about

03:37:01.320 does anybody have anything please what do you think brian's body count is

03:37:05.800 that do you so he's been in a few serious relationships i would say

03:37:12.200 mm-hmm is he from california he was born in france oh yeah he was when did he move to california i

03:37:20.200 guess i could ask that he's like 12 or something okay like two years old or something considering

03:37:24.280 that we're in isla vista i would say it's above 50 to 100 wow who that's my assumption oh yeah i feel

03:37:31.720 like for him college kids here go pretty crazy i would say i feel like you have to work pretty hard to

03:37:37.240 get like 50 to 100 like not if you're a woman yeah but it's time consuming at least right yeah

03:37:45.080 not really i feel like if you're if you have nothing to do if you're a college student all you have to

03:37:50.040 do at school like there's parties here five days a week so it's like not five days a week maybe it could

03:37:55.800 be but a few days a week y'all just whoring for free yeah exactly i'm just kidding um yeah

03:38:04.360 yeah but y'all all went to santa barbara is that like the common thing right here well like

03:38:12.600 gsb is like the number one party school in is it in california or i'd say america one at least top

03:38:22.040 three at least five in the us yeah party school so i don't know it's just like i guess the party

03:38:28.200 environment yeah yeah even my grandma knew she's like you're gonna ucsb so oh did you go too yeah i

03:38:38.600 transferred i went to a christian university before i came here so very 180 okay but yeah i just feel

03:38:45.800 like the environment here is a little more you guys talking about school no we're talking about like

03:38:50.760 party environment oh okay like i don't know she was saying like uh yeah how it's hard to rack up

03:38:57.320 like does any body count and i said like not if you're a woman especially who said that i just think

03:39:02.920 it would be time consuming i mean i understand like women are turning down guys every day but yeah

03:39:11.080 some girls will do that shit their first freshman semester or quarter 30 bodies yeah and it's amazing

03:39:19.720 that like people think porn will wear you out but college girls are doing that it's crazy well i

03:39:27.400 think the difference the the criticisms of women involved in porn is that shit's like on the internet

03:39:36.280 for life yes and you definitely have to be okay with that and so i think probably a lot of guys have

03:39:43.080 an issue with both they don't want a woman with high body count and they don't want women who have

03:39:47.160 naked photos of themselves or like sleeping and fucking other men on the internet for the world

03:39:52.440 to see and that's probably they're both undesirable i'd say for most men

03:39:59.560 yeah do you disagree it's okay if you disagree violet no i agree you agree yes sir but you continue

03:40:08.200 doing the work that you're doing despite you yes because i love it you love what precisely um i

03:40:18.120 love creating content i love being free and traveling and kind of just creating my day around what i want

03:40:25.880 to do and i understand that it's not going to be like that forever so i'm just making the most of it

03:40:30.120 right now and getting getting it all locked in good times okay um let me see if we got any chats here

03:40:42.680 we have darian murphy do you want to read this one rachel i think it's directed to you

03:40:49.160 not like out loud oh here we go um first girl serious advice you need to stop making decisions

03:41:02.040 and choices find a man in your family who is sensible and who really cares about you

03:41:06.920 and just take their advice seriously also abandon feminism it's truly poison okay you guys are all just

03:41:13.320 like really misogynistic um i don't necessarily need a man to tell me i also have females who can support

03:41:19.960 me i feel like women and men can both provide that wait what is misogynistic about his statement here

03:41:29.240 well i don't know why it has to be a man

03:41:33.800 what why why does it have to be a man

03:41:35.800 i think why is that i'm not sure why that's misogynistic but no not that i mean like

03:41:44.600 what's the what's the definition what do you how do you define misogyny

03:41:54.840 there's a lot of answers up there brian yeah

03:41:58.440 no how do you define misogyny

03:41:59.800 i don't know i don't like this

03:42:07.480 what

03:42:13.960 how do you i'm just asking how you define misogyny

03:42:25.720 can i go um are you okay like do you want like you want to go as in leave

03:42:37.880 is it because i asked how you define misogyny is that

03:42:41.960 no i was just i wanted to make sure that we were like talking about because in in a debate it's very

03:42:49.160 important that you both people are talking about the same thing and both people have

03:42:55.800 things defined well i'm not going to answer how i'm using this in the context because i have signed

03:43:01.960 a waiver wait what never mind i don't

03:43:09.800 do you want to just take a little breather or you could just stay at the table i mean

03:43:14.040 no i'd like to go home if that's allowed because i asked about how you define misogyny that was

03:43:23.240 that was the precipitating thing i've said some way more i don't know he's asking me to abandon

03:43:31.160 feminism it's like do you even know what feminism is it's like hey i i was never the one that's been

03:43:38.440 like sitting here wanting a man to be a man wait what well let's talk let's try to talk well let's

03:43:46.040 try to talk it through let's try to get to the bottom of this because because it seems like it's a

03:43:52.040 position you're really strong on and we'd like to hear your your stance

03:44:06.760 nick

03:44:14.760 so let me try to maybe parse what he was saying so darian murphy he was saying abandon feminism

03:44:22.040 you object to that which is fine um you also objected to him saying find a man you can certainly

03:44:29.880 find like a strong woman in your family to um guide you too the reality is is like it doesn't matter

03:44:38.920 about other people like the only person that can fix you is yourself um yeah but you can always go to

03:44:45.800 like a parental figure also you're already talking about like pornography and like no man is gonna

03:44:51.000 marry like yes there are men that will marry women that do pornography but you were also talking about

03:44:56.840 how there's a lot of men that are judgmental of that and like things being potentially online forever

03:45:01.640 it's like this is like literally no different for me like for me it's like anyone can look this up i

03:45:08.360 thought this was gonna be like some little student

03:45:11.480 podcast that like maybe five people listen to i have no idea but okay so are you just on the adult

03:45:19.800 content thing are you do you object to men having a preference for not dating women

03:45:28.840 who have been engaged in that kind of adult content no i think it's really ridiculous that guys

03:45:37.080 are also i've had a lot of guys sit there and complain about how they're jealous that women

03:45:41.080 can actually go into that profession because a lot of males do not feel like they have a platform in

03:45:47.560 that business um and i do think it's an industry i do think it's a business i respect it it's good

03:45:58.280 it's dandy i just can i please go home if you yeah no look if you want to leave you can leave i was

03:46:04.280 hoping we could continue having a conversation but um just let it go okay i mean

03:46:17.000 if you're leaving we can't really offer that but okay

03:46:29.720 what did it

03:46:40.920 bro i don't know the chat's like what i'm trying to like have a conversation about it

03:46:48.040 okay whatever um i think that was the first time in her life she was faced with like the truth of

03:46:53.400 and the consequences of her actions and i think yeah i think she was just like gathering like

03:46:58.600 everything she said on here and it just hit her kind of i could i could see that in a bit

03:47:07.800 bro i mean like everyone in the chat's like bro let her let her go like i'm trying to reel her back

03:47:15.320 into the conversation she had a she was upset i don't know if it was that super chat that got her

03:47:22.760 or me asking her to define what misogyny is but like

03:47:31.640 that was really a pretty tame conversation um

03:47:36.760 um how is bro okay i was trying to like she was having a reaction i was trying her to like

03:47:46.600 calm her down by talking to her the chat wants to white knight then fine whatever um

03:47:56.120 so okay whatever bro um

03:47:59.000 like it is what it is um i'm gonna read a couple chats let's see

03:48:09.640 uh kate robinson thank you for your honesty you have made me laugh a lot

03:48:14.920 rachel question mark what's your cat's name

03:48:19.640 uh she left sorry kate um let me see if we have any other chats

03:48:25.160 what's funny is what's actually funny is if i can just like be meta and address it

03:48:40.600 is she started crying and then you started reassuring her even though you disagree with her

03:48:47.640 you weren't prepared to step up and actually be like

03:48:50.680 like because once the tears come out yeah you're gonna placate her but that does nothing to actually

03:48:58.440 address and chad is roasting me here but like simps i don't think it was it's white knighting

03:49:05.560 it's fucking white knighting guys fall for that a lot in arguments like girls crying but they

03:49:12.200 shouldn't fall for it because it kind of gives into the girl and like then they end up you know

03:49:17.320 doing habits like that just crying to get out of argument the way i see it though is like this is

03:49:21.160 the first time in her life where she's like oh

03:49:23.240 shit these actions i've done in my past like are gonna have consequences because i don't think she's

03:49:27.560 ever thought about like there are consequences of what i've done in all these stories and

03:49:32.040 it's gonna like it's shaping her as like who she is as a human and now she has to like

03:49:38.280 deal with it and i don't think she ever like has processed what she's gone through and for the

03:49:42.600 first time she's like wow i've gone through a lot of stuff and i need to process this and

03:49:48.040 i think that's what made her emotional honestly yeah the chat like the chat was spamming and maybe

03:49:53.400 this is why i ultimately what like i should not i should have probably tried to keep her here and

03:49:58.600 allow her to talk through what she was feeling but the chat was like brian let her go you're exploiting

03:50:04.920 her blah blah blah it's like yo let's talk through what she is going through like

03:50:15.240 honestly if any of you said like we're again just unsubscribe like if those of you who are like

03:50:23.240 i literally asked her how she defined misogyny and that made her cry i'm sorry like there's way

03:50:30.760 heavier fucking shit going on in the world than asking somebody in sitting at a table

03:50:37.960 how you define misogyny i get that there was other conversations going on

03:50:42.680 during the table but like holy chat like if you think that i was like being a dickhead

03:50:50.440 unsubscribe unsubscribe i don't want you as a viewer unsubscribe like i'm not gonna be

03:50:55.720 fucking guilt tripped here because i was literally asking her how she defined a word she

03:51:01.480 fucking used i was trying to understand her position and then she's gonna start

03:51:10.040 okay whatever bro um it was probably and maddie over here didn't have my

03:51:14.200 fucking back she was like oh you should

03:51:15.800 what do you mean i honestly don't think it had anything to do with you anything you said i think

03:51:22.840 it was just it was probably most more so the super chat huh yeah i think it was just more her own

03:51:27.560 life overwhelmed her she's like she just she looked like she wanted to cry for a while yes exactly i

03:51:32.920 think it was a culmination of everything it just was building up

03:51:36.200 so okay whatever um i don't even know i mean obviously the super chat was kind of digging into

03:51:46.520 her a little bit but i just asked her how she defined misogyny so whatever um

03:51:54.760 but uh but no maddie you were like oh just let her go whatever i don't know don't think keeping

03:52:00.920 her here crying would have done any better like she was already so set that she wanted to leave

03:52:05.880 like she was super uncomfortable so i wasn't gonna like well i wasn't forcing her but i was trying to

03:52:10.440 like yeah yeah i understand okay i think you relaxed let's yeah yeah i think you handled it well it was

03:52:17.240 just like it wouldn't have done us any justice just had her sitting here crying the whole time because

03:52:21.000 if i think if i immediately was like oh okay like go ahead and leave i wanted to try to like reel her

03:52:26.840 back in and be like it's okay it's okay like it was no i was trying i was trying a little bit

03:52:32.200 talking again like she chilled down on the crying and started talking so i thought it was fine but

03:52:36.760 okay all right um all right i don't know i saw like literally every chat i saw now it seems like the

03:52:44.440 chat is kind of back in my court a little bit but like every chat i saw was like l brian let her

03:52:51.000 leave let her leave like every single one so i don't know um i wasn't like forcing her to

03:52:56.680 stay here i was just trying to like it's okay we can talk about it no big deal um so whatever uh

03:53:04.600 i don't know if we've got any other chats bro today's just been a

03:53:08.920 fucking absolute shit show between everybody flaking that girl leaving early she rachel crying

03:53:15.480 and leaving early ah bro okay relax brian you can still continue with the show alfred turning on

03:53:22.920 okay whatever um let's see i think we got through all her stories pretty much um

03:53:33.560 i'm thinking if there was anything else uh

03:53:40.360 let's see

03:53:43.240 should we do we could do a little bit of after show i guess

03:53:46.840 yeah all right nick do you want to hit the lights guys we're going to change the uh we're

03:53:52.040 going to do a short after show then we're going to wrap um i think we need to uh i guess we can keep

03:53:57.240 it like this um guys i'm going to change the triggers on stream labs it's going to be

03:54:04.600 uh 20 and up to read slash answer and it's tts is going to be 69 and up we're going to do a

03:54:13.320 20 minute after show then we're going to wrap up all right

03:54:19.400 bro okay uh hold on guys i'm just getting that changed sorry guys i feel like honestly to i've

03:54:27.960 literally carried a four hour conversation not to be mean to any of you guys i know i'm the host but

03:54:35.240 like the burden of conversation has fell really heavily on me tonight which is difficult for four

03:54:42.840 hours normally we have a bit more people so um i get i'm the host it's i'm taking accountability

03:54:50.280 it's on me but it really felt very one-sided conversationally so it is what it is um well

03:54:57.880 you shouldn't focus on her so much because she was going in circles you know you should have

03:55:05.400 passed it around a little more well i mean i tried but uh

03:55:08.680 i think she was just getting but but so like my goal is like if you hear something that somebody

03:55:16.680 says anybody at the table is free to like oh let me add to that let me here's what i think about that

03:55:23.720 and i feel like you even said in the beginning of the show you're like if you guys have anything to add

03:55:27.720 like just say it like don't even ask if you can speak but i don't know yeah yeah i just think when

03:55:35.480 the first chair is like a rambler it kind of it's hard to jump in you know so but you can't really

03:55:42.040 and she was like i don't know she was telling her own personal stories yeah it was uh she had a lot of

03:55:47.560 fucking story yeah it was a lot to process to hear i mean maybe i should have now people are in the

03:55:57.240 chatter saying brian you were doing fine reeling her back in you should have let her stay now or

03:56:05.800 now now they're like right now they're trying i'm getting such conflicted messaging literally it was

03:56:11.800 spamming in the chat brian let her go let her go i was like oh am i like i don't know whatever

03:56:18.200 so okay um oh let me just oh uh so okay oh did i read this one okay i did um i think i made the

03:56:31.240 changes in stream labs so tts is 69 read is 20 and up that's both super chat and stream labs guys so if

03:56:39.960 you yeah we can pull up twitch really quick okay all right ravon thank you for the prime superman

03:56:47.720 thank you for the five community subs thank you man really appreciate it superman thank you for the

03:56:51.880 five gifted subs appreciate it d's lit thank for the prime bricks thank for the prime jordan thank

03:56:58.120 for the tier one finger thank for the prime really appreciate it man tough episode yeah it is what it is

03:57:05.000 10 flakes today um pulling teeth at points but um let's see uh i'm trying to think what else

03:57:15.880 someone said the optics look bad because she was crying i mean okay should we maybe we should have

03:57:30.380 her back and like never coming she might yo pubcast thank for the 10 uh gifted she might you know

03:57:37.000 what did she ask at them right before she left no she she had no no she like right she she said

03:57:44.760 something to nick and you were like well that's not gonna happen it's like don't worry about it

03:57:49.520 um watch watch experiment i'm just gonna go silent

03:57:56.780 so what do you guys look in what do you guys what is your dream man

03:58:04.660 what do you guys look for in a man a beard a beard and wait we should have violet take her seat

03:58:14.620 violet you want to go over there okay

03:58:16.820 what was that

03:58:21.840 i know how to sit on my phone right so i've been doing that yeah you can sit on it does it does

03:58:32.620 it vibrate no it's on okay just not trying to have someone okay never mind like who do you want to be

03:58:42.240 your husband when you turn 28 um uh someone from texas someone older someone with the beard um

03:58:51.560 yeah what is the age range that you usually date in well if i'm gonna be 28 i would say from 35 to 45

03:58:59.500 would be good because family kids eventually i like to mess around with older guys but

03:59:07.320 to get serious with someone they would have to be around 35 to maybe even 55 yeah do you do you guys

03:59:15.260 both would you guys say that you both are like older men as well like same age and above same

03:59:23.300 like how what's like what's the oldest that you would go you're 32 right 32 i think it all depends

03:59:31.340 on like that particular person ideally maybe someone like within one to like

03:59:39.060 eight nine years of my age range what about you um i'd say i've i was more open i guess

03:59:48.500 when i was first started dating to date younger and older but now i kind of lean towards older by a few

03:59:54.660 years so why do you think that woman nowadays try to go for older men specifically men my age do not

04:00:05.940 want to get their hands dirty and i want a man who what do you mean get their hands dirty like i have

04:00:12.160 a handyman for example he's amazing and anytime i call him over he's like leaving his job to come and

04:00:18.720 paint this or you know he's just like on the ball and he's not afraid to do whatever he needs to do

04:00:24.680 and he's like 60 and i can't find someone who's like 20 or 30 to come and do that because and he's

04:00:31.400 like yeah i thought i would have so much competition but no nobody wants to work and i feel like guys

04:00:37.400 wait is he one of your simps or is he actually like a handyman no he's a handyman yeah but you says

04:00:42.260 he leaves whatever he's doing to come and yeah he has an actual job but i pay him to do handyman work

04:00:47.840 oh like he has an actual job still i mean i pay him good like he could probably just work for me

04:00:53.900 and make good money but what do you mean just work for you like just do handyman things for me

04:00:59.060 like and he'll even do gardening if i need some gardening done yeah but i'm sure you don't have

04:01:03.840 like a full-time job for him do you yeah but i'm saying your house is your house just a catastrophe

04:01:10.860 that's constantly like no i have multiple properties oh okay she's got multiple properties

04:01:15.980 have you ever been a sugar mama no you wouldn't do that no even with all your your vast wealth and

04:01:23.180 riches and yeah i mean i would definitely like pay on a date or something do you ever simp for dudes

04:01:30.440 would you simp for a guy no no i don't think so unless i'm i guess if that means totally falling in

04:01:39.260 love with a man and because because i'm doing whatever for him then yeah i guess so because

04:01:44.680 i've heard from some only fans women that they have to like simp for a dude

04:01:52.860 in a relationship like almost to make up for the fact that they do this kind of undesirable thing

04:02:00.700 which is like having only fans do sex work doing porn

04:02:03.340 maybe i don't know i'm not relating well it's like there are women who do only fans who recognize

04:02:15.580 that this makes them a less suitable partner and so they feel like they have to make up for it by

04:02:23.500 and they'll make up for it by like financially supporting the guy in the same way that men who

04:02:29.640 are deficient in one realm of that would in a realm that would be attractive to women like

04:02:36.640 okay maybe he's not attractive or maybe he's not good looking but he's wealthy they'll try to lead

04:02:42.540 with their money and try to make up for it with their money so i think there are some only fans girls

04:02:49.320 that will do that they make up for their this deficiency in their character essentially or in

04:02:55.200 their value in the market in the dating marketplace by simping for guys and like paying for shit

04:03:02.020 i could see that happening you've never encountered that i don't know no but i could i i've seen that

04:03:08.920 happen before for sure okay and it's yeah i think it's probably just feeling bad about what you do a

04:03:14.400 little bit and so you're like well i do this so i'm good but um it's probably just a coping

04:03:20.580 mechanism i think a lot of people go into the industry and not really think about

04:03:24.660 the things you have to face later in life and i think i'm doing a pretty good job with it

04:03:30.280 okay can you oh wait i don't water in it just kidding brian would wait wait what oh the water

04:03:40.700 yeah she doesn't have i don't have any in it though in this yeah thank you

04:03:46.000 um i'm trying to remember where i was uh what was my other question would would any of you date a

04:03:54.960 uh trans man i guess no no fuck no would would you object to a guy not wanting to date a trans woman

04:04:04.400 like if i didn't want to date a transgender woman that's like dating a man would would you guys have

04:04:10.760 an issue with that like if you didn't want to date a trans woman yeah wouldn't that be dating a man

04:04:16.400 just you're dating a man no no i wouldn't have an issue okay no all right um yeah that's an

04:04:25.180 interesting one definitely don't get that but i don't understand the the like forcing people into

04:04:33.580 dating someone you like if i say i'm not a lesbian people kind of have gotten offended by that

04:04:41.040 before why would that be offensive because i've done like girl girl content or just like you know

04:04:47.100 i mean that could just mean you're bi or not even bi you're just doing it for work well yeah you're

04:04:51.740 just doing it for work yeah yeah um yeah i feel like i've heard that conversation though like

04:05:00.600 of people getting offended that you're like not willing to or that you're not lesbian i feel like

04:05:09.120 i've gotten that before it's just it's not like not like they're like oh my god you're you're you're

04:05:14.920 not into girls it's just kind of like oh like it's a huge like turn off for some reason like it's like

04:05:21.860 i've let them down like i've ruined their lives because i'm like not yeah bisexual or anything like that

04:05:27.620 i've seen that i've felt that before um the funny thing is is i will do a show with a girl but i

04:05:34.980 would never do one with like a transgender yeah you're about to be you're about to be canceled

04:05:40.860 violet well i'm just very particular about who i am doing content with no matter who it is you know

04:05:49.260 i'm very particular about it so so are you like planning on not dating anyone for like a while

04:05:54.180 not seriously i'm for a while because i just don't have time or my life isn't in that spot but

04:06:03.060 you own multiple properties like if you wanted to do you think you've made enough that you could

04:06:09.160 retire yes okay but obviously i mean there's no is there such thing like you always want to make more

04:06:17.740 right yeah um no money and i think that just while i have my looks or you know obviously i'm not going

04:06:28.860 to have them forever so i would like to make the most out of while i can be on camera sure okay um

04:06:36.840 let's say a guy came along now right you're 23 you've made you've made good money he's made good

04:06:43.520 money and he says violet listen your past is your past

04:06:49.580 i want to forge a new future i want you to stop doing only fans i want you to stop doing porn i want

04:07:02.340 you to stop doing sex work i want to pump out 10 dark-haired blue-eyed children

04:07:10.840 do you do you accept yes if i'm in love with the man then yes i accept i'll pump out as many babies

04:07:19.760 i'm not pitching chat relax i'll pump out as many babies as my man wants me to pump out when i get to

04:07:27.620 that place in my life and i don't think i will be suitable for camera after that unless i get what is

04:07:35.880 that labia oh no labia place no it's the what huh lipo lipo yeah you gotta get like lipo on your

04:07:45.800 vagina vagina oh oh wait i thought you're talking about like after you like after you have kids

04:07:51.780 like yeah i was talking about the actual vagina because that's what's important on camera here

04:07:57.060 people oh wait what is it the pussy what the vagina you can get the vagina the vagina the vagina

04:08:04.360 you get surgery on your fajita yeah like women have done that before yo pull up pull up my

04:08:11.800 non-profit yeah i was literally trying to plug and nobody understood you you were trying to plug what

04:08:17.840 your thing big labia matter yeah blm yes i violet i want you to say that you support blm into the

04:08:26.680 look into this camera right here say it this one right here oh i'm looking at myself

04:08:32.180 i support big labia matters raise your fist fist in the air make a fist no that's definitely not a fist

04:08:47.500 your technique's decent but fist no that's a grab that's a grab i know you're just no fist in

04:08:56.100 clenched fist okay bro you'd stop being her on it hashtag blm say it i'm not saying bro that's my

04:09:04.600 fuck it's nick pull it up pull it up pull it up hashtag big big baby that's my non-profit

04:09:08.960 big labia matter oh my god bro wow okay you're trying to make me say things no i'll say it

04:09:18.760 hashtag blm no you gotta do the fist right hashtag blm what the fuck okay did you post the black screen

04:09:27.640 too no i didn't do that i'm not a sheep oh i totally thought you would have done that

04:09:32.320 you thought i would have posted like during the screen yeah did you no no i had actually here's

04:09:40.680 the funny story chat get this i was dating a girl for two months is it two months three months

04:09:47.720 uh the george floyd riots people are posting black screens my girlfriend sort of girlfriend

04:09:57.060 breaks up with me because i didn't post a black screen oh my god yeah cool that shit was really

04:10:05.680 divisive and this was when i was still kind of dating like kind got chat i know look i was kind

04:10:13.020 of dating liberal women was she black no she's a white woman oh it was my peer i would look i was

04:10:23.160 i remember there being so much drama i was dating a liberal woman i regret it what's that yeah there

04:10:31.180 was a lot of drama like oh yeah shit people being like you know i'm unfollowing you if you're not

04:10:37.060 supporting this or silence is violence and if you knew that it would save your relationship would you

04:10:42.740 go back and do it no fuck no so you didn't really like her that much no it's not about i'm not going to

04:10:51.920 lie i believe in speaking the truth i'm not going to lie to continue to get pussy yeah no i just didn't

04:11:03.440 know if you like didn't do it purposefully or not no but you're asking you're asking would i go back

04:11:09.040 to save the relationship would i post it and i'm no y'all were together for two months you said or

04:11:15.500 you know like two three months or something okay yeah so good times shitty reasons to get broken up

04:11:21.360 with or maybe it was a good reason i don't know blessing in disguise yeah you're not like super

04:11:26.400 deep into it if it's only a couple months no i wasn't i i just thought it was funny i was like

04:11:30.520 okay once i had a girl yo i've told this story before um i i was on a date with a girl and i brought

04:11:39.020 like a this this exact not this one but like a water bottle just like this it used to be pulling

04:11:45.240 springs now it's origin now it's secret juice um she towards the end of the date starts complaining

04:11:56.300 about the fact that i brought a plastic water bottle to the date was she against plastic she

04:12:03.880 like you're killing she was like she was like oh super environmental type chick and she basically

04:12:08.860 torpedoed the date because like i i believe in protecting the environment like yeah plastic is

04:12:16.220 bad but it's a like relax bro it's a fucking water bottle i'm running out the door i'm gonna grab a

04:12:23.380 ball and then i so then i flipped the shit on her i was like did you wear makeup tonight okay

04:12:29.440 that that that is people harvesting uh like they it's a child fucking child labor in in asian

04:12:41.520 countries and in africa they're harvesting mica to put mica to put in your concealer and to put in

04:12:47.940 your all your shit so um the makeup and cosmetics industry is an incredible waste there's no utility to

04:12:54.960 makeup so and then i was like you're wearing makeup it comes your makeup comes in a little

04:13:01.200 plastic container doesn't it and then she got all but well it's not the same okay shut up and then

04:13:09.040 and then i was like and then i asked her how frequently she travels and then she just got butt

04:13:15.260 hurt and then left oh my goodness she brought it up you you don't want the smoke don't ask don't

04:13:21.760 try to make a big deal of my plastic use yeah and it's one little thing like if she actually has a

04:13:27.600 problem with it it's something you can pick and choose your battle over and be like okay well if

04:13:31.120 i really like this guy maybe i'll tell him later that i you know if it's really that big of a deal

04:13:35.440 it was a first date yeah exactly did you meet her on the dating app yeah it was a dating app uh

04:13:40.660 on bumble put that in her profile yeah no plastic that's so weird that like first off that's really

04:13:47.620 the the environmental impact is not being caused i mean to some degree is not being caused on an

04:13:55.460 individual level it's corporations that are responsible for the vast majority of environmental

04:14:02.920 waste so and then also like if you look at for example shipping is a huge thing because once um i could

04:14:10.980 be semi wrong on this once uh shipping vessels get into international water they can start

04:14:17.480 burning a uh different kind of fuel which is really i don't know if it what it's not

04:14:23.140 fuck what's it called anybody in chat can you tell me what the there's a fuel that shipping vessels

04:14:30.660 burn uh does anybody know what i'm talking about well i think the environmental crisis is just another

04:14:37.900 propaganda of like a form of control bunker fuel bog thank you they start burning bunker fuel once

04:14:43.020 they're in international water okay go ahead what is sorry i was gonna say the environmental

04:14:49.120 crisis i feel like that's just another propaganda and like just a form of control

04:14:53.000 word word good times um

04:14:59.160 what's up

04:15:01.880 sure uh violet can you read this one for us

04:15:06.520 on the subject of rating why does four to six average feel offensive or people feel bad saying

04:15:13.700 them also for body counts does it change if you compare number to establish relationships compared

04:15:18.540 to body count versus just body count

04:15:20.660 no it's all the same i think if you had a sexual encounter that counts right oh yeah sexual

04:15:35.840 encounters are all counted for body counts

04:15:39.180 i think it kind of changes to established relationships it's kind of like you have a body count because you've

04:15:47.400 been in a relationship or because you've had like multiple one night stands like does that make a

04:15:51.800 difference and i think it does

04:15:53.180 well i mean you're if your body count gets high enough there's in between your relationships prior to

04:16:03.900 relationships after your relationships there's been you've probably had casual sex like it typically

04:16:09.880 what most people are going to have only a handful of like serious relationships it's just

04:16:15.280 so um i don't know but for the first question why does four to six feel offensive

04:16:21.420 most people are four to six like that's average most people are average looking it's not

04:16:26.880 it is what it is oh for the rating of looks got it i think that's what he's talking about

04:16:33.840 yeah four to six it's offensive because most people want to think they're 10

04:16:37.880 or higher yeah word uh okay what what else let me see if we have any chance here from

04:16:45.260 stream labs one sec we have uh

04:16:48.400 is fake chess girl okay sorry sorry sorry i don't know what i was reading there

04:17:00.620 is that me um before we wrap up do you guys have anything you'd like to talk about

04:17:06.820 any topics you'd like to hit on

04:17:09.960 what's a hot hot i feel like you have something no wait i had something and then i'm like oh crap i

04:17:19.960 just uh yo chat what i want to know the fake titty fake titty uh comment oh i don't know it's just

04:17:28.040 like a here i'll can you read this one violet oh wait uh sorry read this one violet go go go quick

04:17:34.720 quick quick where i'm so sorry

04:17:37.860 get this to chick some glasses um

04:17:39.820 six two 240 pounds tatted 150k here violet what's the best way to slide into those dms

04:17:45.520 uh uh instagram at violet brandani i changed my last name

04:17:49.860 okay rip i summers i think was better i reckon

04:17:53.680 well can't have all okay can't have what they like take a uh

04:17:57.860 did they have a did they have a what's it called

04:18:02.440 a trademark did they get a trademark on it yes

04:18:08.080 on violet summers yes damn um and

04:18:12.540 he does things like that because he doesn't want you leaving the team so yeah

04:18:20.500 but brandani is my real last name so i might as well use it oh and then one day i'll get married

04:18:28.240 and i won't even have that last name so

04:18:30.720 would you hyphenate no okay that's kind of based okay uh let's see here oh we had this one can you

04:18:40.580 read this one it's good to see someone like yasmin on the show that's that is not wait it's good

04:18:47.300 am i not supposed to read that no go ahead go ahead okay i'm so sorry that is not trying to look

04:18:52.600 for for control in the relationship and wants to be a mother and find something meaningful and

04:18:57.180 profound she will find it oh that's sweet thank you bintock appreciate it ligma thank you man

04:19:06.540 appreciate it let me see if we have anything else here i had oh shit wait what was my question i was

04:19:12.960 gonna ask fuck uh shit it was a good one he was really good super good one of the best questions

04:19:23.740 oh why don't we pull that one up if you can read it violet i just want to tell my princess good night

04:19:28.180 and i don't care if everyone calls me a wimp i love you good night

04:19:32.100 is he did he call himself a simp wimp i think he meant simp because i've never heard wimp

04:19:44.420 oh really maybe he did we mean when i swear i'm forgetting something there's something uh one last

04:19:54.640 question shit i had something good but it's evaded me uh oh let's react to there's this video

04:20:03.080 that what's it like trading with alex print no not the sean strickland one it's the girl

04:20:09.040 she's like i think in a sweatshirt or something yeah i think it's a tiktok

04:20:16.420 i could have all this in my life and so bored to be me why would i ever want to invite a 50 50

04:20:27.460 man into that equation when i could have 50 100 men and i could live in the gifts all around me

04:20:33.680 like a shrine in fact some might say i already do now pick me pick me girls and dusties will yell

04:20:39.280 in your ear about what you should settle for and how you should live your life but you don't have to do

04:20:42.740 that even if you're not watching me from your own apartment with your cat inside of it like

04:20:46.300 i'm posting right now you're still allowed to not want to go 50 50. these men will either bring

04:20:50.480 you up with them or bring you down to their level and let's be honest it's never 50 50 it's usually 90 10

04:20:56.100 disavow um so her i'll let the girls react to that first agree disagree um disagree

04:21:08.140 okay yeah she's why just kind of like very short-sighted on relationships i think

04:21:17.860 yeah she wants to not commit to a guy and saying she can have 50 000 men or something i guess disagree

04:21:31.060 but you don't want 50 50 well i don't know so you

04:21:40.360 kind of agree with her i've always been told that relationship should be a 100 100 yeah

04:21:49.240 yeah huh um it's kind of an empty platitude though i mean i think when people say 50 50 that's

04:21:56.680 probably giving your 100 because then you may well i think when people when people are talking about 50 50

04:22:02.620 they i think there's a difference between both people giving the um how do i articulate this

04:22:14.340 i think there's a difference there between people giving the relationship they're all and then 50 50

04:22:21.520 50 50 makes it like transactional versus someone giving it their all i'm just confused now this

04:22:28.160 match is gonna be all fucked up

04:22:30.940 if you're both 100 100

04:22:35.200 and then you take too complicated yeah tell us the math let's do some home math 100 and put that up on top

04:22:44.320 you get a root 2500 and then you're good till death do its part totally checks out makes perfect

04:22:52.060 sense do its part um but yeah i don't know what i was going to say after that what about you was

04:23:00.120 that girl in the video like saying that she has enough money to support herself and that's why she's

04:23:04.240 a new man i guess i'd yeah it was hard yeah also she's very masculine like in her her demeanor and

04:23:13.960 approach so i'll say like i would want to see what she says in like 20 30 years when she's all alone

04:23:20.200 and she doesn't have her looks to rely on and with fast money comes slow problems

04:23:24.120 i also disagree i think that one great man in your life can be the biggest blessing in the world

04:23:34.580 wait say that again why where were you looking i don't know i keep staring like in between

04:23:48.340 the monitor i don't know i'm seeing things but shit i'm looking for my really dope question that

04:23:55.100 i definitely had lined up that i'm trying to get to uh let's see um what's everybody's type

04:24:02.880 i asked that she likes beards a man who wants to have kids a man who wants to stab kids no who

04:24:12.180 wants to have kids did nick did you hear that too i heard she wants to stab kids what the fuck

04:24:18.140 generally a lot of men want to have kids types look wise around after you have yeah maybe

04:24:25.600 what oh i know what to do i know what to do nick can you pull up the can you pull up um asmond

04:24:33.740 golden xqc their instagram profiles we've we've reacted to it before um i've while nick is doing

04:24:41.580 that i have a question for the ladies

04:24:46.040 all right does height matter

04:24:53.340 yes a little bit um so i want to ask how tall are you what's like bare minimum height for a guy

04:25:02.940 good question uh we'll start with you and then we'll just go around the table i'm five foot so it's

04:25:09.920 not that big of a deal if you're too tall but you do have to be taller so i guess five five at least

04:25:15.820 five five minimum at least yeah at least yeah but preferably what preferably uh six foot

04:25:23.660 five feet but oh nick can you also pull up that that meme the it's in the meme folder so go into

04:25:33.020 dropbox don't pull it up yet dropbox podcast memes uh it's the too short one what about you how tall

04:25:44.540 are you bare minimum height for a guy i am five seven um bare minimum i'd say like yeah my height

04:25:51.420 five six five seven preferably five ten and up okay what about you i'm five six preferably above six

04:25:59.560 foot preferably above six foot okay madison what about you i'm five two preferably

04:26:06.620 five six or taller okay i mean i'll say my preference um

04:26:14.180 her height has to start with four honestly for height doesn't start with four it's just like

04:26:21.860 what's the point you know like i know you're five feet you're five feet you're too short for me

04:26:28.800 or sorry sorry you're too tall i was like am i no no i fucked that up you're too tall

04:26:33.360 sorry why is it that you find four foot just cross y'all the list so sad shoot you know i was

04:26:41.860 thinking too because you were like well oh wait actually go on i'll continue that later i don't

04:26:48.880 want to interrupt no go ahead go ahead oh um you asked me earlier about getting more men because

04:26:58.060 i or getting less men because of what i do not being able to find someone but i come from a really

04:27:03.580 small town so i feel like either way my chances have expanded greatly with a good man um rather than

04:27:12.000 just staying in my town and finding someone there

04:27:15.080 yeah let's do the meme first so this is this is uh

04:27:25.020 like short women who are like i've got to date a tall guy who's six feet so like a short chick who's

04:27:32.660 five feet sorry i don't date guys below six feet and the dude's like five seven it's like i'm still

04:27:37.120 taller than you what the fuck we've definitely had on like short women who are like five feet five

04:27:43.600 foot one who are like he's got to be six feet wow yeah i say that but then i'm like thinking like

04:27:49.880 yeah um i'm not a size queen or anything so six feet is kind of big i don't think i've ever

04:27:56.800 been with someone six feet tall my high school boyfriend was five five so

04:28:02.700 oh okay all right she doesn't discriminate i guess there you go really uh and then what was

04:28:08.920 the other thing we were looking up oh yeah would you date this guy so we'll scroll down we'll see

04:28:15.300 the pictures just wait until we see all of them because maybe one catches your eyes so his name is

04:28:20.720 zach he's um he's a very nice guy he's a close friend he's a close friend of mine uh we we used to

04:28:29.080 live in new jersey together and um we actually had to leave new jersey because

04:28:35.780 he got he got involved with the wrong crowd italian mafia so he had to leave that's why he has that axe

04:28:47.240 there that shit is in okay um well i get off to tony soprano so if it's like that then maybe but i don't

04:28:57.720 really go off someone's instagram would you date zach i said i don't go off anyone's instagram

04:29:04.480 just based off what you saw though would you give him a chance i would give him a chance yes

04:29:10.860 i would could i'm friends with him can i set you up with him

04:29:14.820 where does he live new jersey oh no he lives in texas actually no way yeah where i think austin

04:29:24.160 really yeah yeah i'll hang out with him is that where you live yes well i live uh in belton it's

04:29:29.720 about an hour north that's that's not far i think he's in austin i don't i don't recall we've kind

04:29:34.900 of you know well hit me up we've there was an incident with um a porcupine that we don't talk

04:29:42.480 about so unfortunately we've kind of haven't talked in a while but yeah it's a it's a heartbreaking

04:29:49.980 story relationship okay it's okay we're we're it's it's amicable but there's a history there so

04:29:57.060 okay do you think but you'd be down to like kick it with him if he's a normal guy yeah okay what

04:30:03.300 about you i i go on a date with him you go on a date with him okay no no maddie if you were single

04:30:10.920 no okay uh so go back to his profile so this is this his name zach he's a twitch streamer scroll up

04:30:19.500 to the top i love it uh his name his name is asmongold his uh streaming name one of the top

04:30:29.400 streamers on twitch very popular so maybe violet maybe could i try to set you up for a little rendezvous

04:30:36.740 at zach's i think his beard is really saving him here and he pulls it off very well it's full

04:30:43.900 he's got a he's like a viking it could use some conditioner but we can fix that he's a viking

04:30:49.100 yeah for sure but he looks feminine and he's in texas no that is peak male performance pull it up

04:30:56.200 again this is peak male performance how dare you say he looks feminine what do you think he's got

04:31:01.980 a fucking axe look at that you talked about you were talking about alpha males you were talking

04:31:07.740 about alpha males earlier this is the fucking epitome of an alpha male he will chop your head off

04:31:14.760 for you not your head he'll chop his head off for you yes which head are we talking about never mind

04:31:22.400 um yeah we'll do we'll do next guy uh okay so how about this guy this guy's name is felix

04:31:31.960 and um you know okay there he is look he's uh all right he's a close friend he's a friend of mine

04:31:42.940 you know um he gives me like mgk vibes okay all right look he's got a cat um his hair is blonde

04:31:53.560 dyed blonde he could be like a calvin klein model

04:31:57.760 okay um that's a cute picture which one the first one this one the one where he's like super intense

04:32:07.420 looking like he's gonna murder you that's the one yeah that's probably like okay that's pure picture

04:32:14.520 yeah pure he's like really he looks like he's like about to talk shit to some like say some

04:32:23.040 racist shit in the call of duty lobby that's pure for you what the fuck all right um so going around

04:32:29.900 the table would you would you date him no no not my the tall skinny like mgk look that's not me

04:32:40.540 not you yeah okay what about you um i don't really like the dyed blonde look i'd like to see like his

04:32:48.520 natural hair okay all right so i guess no also no he kind of looks feminine madison no sorry felix

04:32:59.300 okay let's go back uh go back to his profile this is felix his name's xqc on he's a streamer

04:33:06.660 he recently signed a kick deal for what was it chat was it 20 million or was it a hundred million

04:33:14.780 was it a hundred million or was it i think it was a hundred million kick deal right um does that

04:33:23.740 change anything hundred mil excuse me hundred million dollar kick deal does that change anything

04:33:29.960 that's retire you money never have to work a day in your life money but perhaps doesn't change

04:33:36.880 anything doesn't change anything that's like a top 0.0001 percent earner nothing no that's crazy

04:33:46.800 wow well good for him okay all right doesn't change anything i'm not gonna lie

04:33:54.900 i might go gay for that shit i'm just saying like gay for pay you did gay for pay i might go gay for

04:34:01.260 whoa whoa okay hide that shit um well i think i might i might give him a chance but if i'm not happy

04:34:07.340 i wouldn't just stay with someone for um yeah just because i'm like oh well i need this chick deal

04:34:13.500 okay all right all right what if you met him and you really liked his personality though does that

04:34:19.660 change anything he's french canadian yeah i can definitely fall in love like you know start

04:34:24.820 liking a guy a lot just because his personality he doesn't even have to be like whoa attractive they

04:34:30.340 just can you know put their body language and their smooth talk yeah that's very important the coolness

04:34:37.120 of a guy is he funny i have i i for me humor is really important for me yeah i guess he's funny

04:34:45.600 okay he's a good guy he's one of my friends he's a close friend okay he was also involved in the

04:34:52.420 italian mafia in new jersey for some reason i don't know well that changes things for the better are you

04:34:57.420 more turned on yes i told you i get off to tony soprano i'll pause like an episode i'm like oh save

04:35:03.440 that for later you know you fucking hypocrite hey i love her i don't like that kind of talk

04:35:15.600 it's his mom

04:35:17.980 do you guys have any questions before we wrap up the show any questions you'd like to ask

04:35:24.960 are you gonna get married am i gonna get married yes do you plan to um i'm gonna stop this podcast

04:35:33.180 because it is destroying my life i'm gonna marry you we're not gonna sign a prenup i'm gonna divorce

04:35:39.120 you in seven years for lifelong alimony no if i get married i'm not getting divorced i'm so sorry

04:35:44.880 oh you don't have a say though you're not getting divorced but i am

04:35:49.780 so you're gonna make me quit my adult work no no we're gonna live happily together for seven years

04:35:57.320 you can do so i'm gonna depend on you you can do solo content okay yeah okay that's sweet of you

04:36:01.800 yeah i will allow you to do solo content out of the goodness i love the compromise we're already

04:36:06.660 making here yeah it's good perfect yep um so yeah i'm gonna depend on you for a good seven years

04:36:11.960 probably make like five kids and then you'll leave me seven kids all sons seven kids seven

04:36:17.680 all sons we have to have at least seven sons okay and then you'll leave so i don't care if we have

04:36:22.080 ten daughters we're gonna have seven sons okay let's just get to the part where you leave you're

04:36:25.500 gonna be pumping out kids i'm gonna stay until we have seven sons okay yeah maybe i'll have like

04:36:32.020 triplets okay three boys i'm telling you though like we have to have seven sons so i don't care

04:36:37.500 again if we have ten daughters okay you know what's kind of interesting that i've noticed is like

04:36:42.400 and i'm not saying that this is me but god oh hold on oh can you read this violet

04:36:50.600 props to yasmin for acknowledging the feminism programming they teach females growing up about

04:36:57.140 being boss babe making money is not fulfilling at the end of the day also helmet head i wouldn't

04:37:02.260 touch and bang with you even with brian's dick hashtag streets rip madison is this from i was just

04:37:12.700 making a joke sounds like you got offended but oh damn lpe coming for you uh not even with my penis

04:37:21.020 what does i wouldn't want that either i wouldn't want that either whoa okay that's like really a lot

04:37:28.480 of logistics you know he's really shoving it and she's oh he would be in the corner like would he be

04:37:34.240 like a lawyer um so let's get back to me divorcing you for all your money okay yes the fantasy yes

04:37:43.720 the dream just let me know when you want to get going on that and

04:37:50.600 i would probably like if we were to date i would just reverse finesse you like i would never fuck

04:37:57.160 you i'd wait until marriage and then like we'd never have sex wow that's hot is it yes i like that

04:38:03.540 i like that i would just basically make you my servant you'd have to massage me but we could have

04:38:08.080 no sexual contact the only time we could have sexual contact i'd probably have to like artificially

04:38:12.940 inseminate you oh my god what am i talking that thing where couples are you actually excited by

04:38:19.880 this yeah and like we're just so sexually tensioned and then the honeymoon comes and you just like

04:38:26.820 pound me and no not even that huh not even that oh wait what you know have you ever seen those

04:38:33.460 videos of like how they like they don't actually allow horses to fuck other horses they have to like

04:38:38.400 get it in a tube and then they artificially inseminate oh like frenchies yeah

04:38:42.580 yeah like that's how we would have to have our kids

04:38:46.100 that's weird yeah oh you don't have to be okay things got okay wait i think i was missing that

04:38:53.120 whole inseminate part of your sentence or whatever i don't know where i'm going with this i'm losing

04:39:00.160 i thought you thought about this all night about artificially inseminating you yes you think it's just

04:39:05.920 been yeah you're like man she's got the best genes i know it the best genes do you no i actually don't

04:39:15.820 yeah exactly um but yeah i'm just gonna marry you for your money and then divorce you is this my water

04:39:23.580 i don't think so oh oh my gosh thank god thank you i thought i was drinking someone else's water

04:39:31.620 well do you believe in love after like do i believe in love yeah after having like all these

04:39:37.780 conversations about dating that's a good question yeah i believe in love for yourself

04:39:44.280 yeah sure i believe in love have you ever been in love yeah i've been in love

04:39:53.100 is this something you would like would want in life or like strive to find with somebody else

04:40:00.840 what is this something you would strive to find with someone else to like fall in love with someone

04:40:05.940 else well honestly i don't feel like

04:40:09.500 are you okay for like having kids

04:40:14.580 it's not clear to me if love is necessary

04:40:19.120 like kids aside just with like a like person like loving your partner i think once you have kids

04:40:27.080 your selfish desires go out the fucking window

04:40:31.480 like you agree no i think like once you have kids you do what's best for the kids

04:40:43.240 so and i think what's best for the kids is the parents being in love yeah so they grow up in

04:40:48.980 a household where the but what if you fall out of love but you otherwise have if you otherwise have

04:40:54.800 a a healthy relationship with your spouse but you have fallen out of love then i think it's selfish

04:41:06.200 but love is work it's like you have to put in the same effort you do the first few dates as you do

04:41:10.400 like 10 years into the relationship wait what so like the first few dates you're gonna put in so

04:41:17.020 much effort you're gonna be like courting the woman's like gonna be showing up as her best self

04:41:20.920 and 10 years down you still have to be putting in that same effort to keep the love alive

04:41:24.660 or else of course you're gonna fall out of love sure i mean and this is a very hypothetical scenario

04:41:30.200 i'm just i think it would be hard for me to fall out of love with the mother of my children

04:41:39.460 that'd be very hard to do i think it's more often the case that women fall out of love with their

04:41:44.880 husbands i think that's just from like neglecting what you have and not yeah not working on the

04:41:52.140 relationship like you said and when women kind of are in the real world they always are getting

04:41:59.100 like oh you should be a part of our girl mob and leave your you know it's kind of like this

04:42:05.620 especially when you're friends with single women and then you're in a relationship i think that they

04:42:10.440 clash a lot um and so it's always kind of fighting that and then yeah i mean i think

04:42:17.420 i think when it comes to long-term relationships love is great but i think you can continue having

04:42:25.680 a relationship if you've fallen out of love

04:42:28.380 you're a catholic right you said you don't believe in divorce okay do you think divorce is

04:42:38.940 warranted if you fall out of love with somebody

04:42:41.280 i don't think under catholicism falling out of love with somebody is a valid reason for divorce

04:42:49.060 yeah i mean don't get married if you have any chance of falling out of love with them or yeah but

04:42:54.200 don't people fall out of love with people but that's just making i mean you said you said you

04:43:00.960 would never divorce never get divorced right so let's say the relationship is otherwise healthy

04:43:07.600 you treat each other well but you have fallen out of love with your partner maybe you get bored

04:43:14.080 people have you ever been bored in a relationship by the guy he was otherwise great guy he was very

04:43:20.360 nice but you got bored um i can't really say i have okay what about you yes you've been bored

04:43:25.960 great guy nice guy treated you well never was toxic or abusive in any way but you just got bored

04:43:35.340 why did you get bored um i think

04:43:41.100 if there we just i don't know maybe the spark was not there anymore it just kind of felt like

04:43:52.680 we were in a rut and things i mean that could be on my part too i didn't maybe put in as much

04:43:59.380 effort as i could have but yeah i mean i think it's very possible to fall out of love and get

04:44:08.200 bored in a relationship people change yeah what about you have you ever been bored in a relationship

04:44:13.720 no oh okay all right yeah i think if you really love someone you don't really get bored but love

04:44:21.580 like being in a relationship is work you can't just like get in a relationship get married and then

04:44:25.280 just be like okay i'm gonna chill now you have to keep continuing putting in the work yeah of course

04:44:30.220 but uh and then if you don't i think that's when you fall out of love

04:44:34.500 yeah maybe you can fall back into love yeah so that's always an option i think there's always work

04:44:41.820 to be done um and obviously relationships have lows like sometimes there's periods of time where

04:44:50.780 you're upset about each other you have arguments about things and i feel like even if you do fall

04:44:56.760 out of love with your husband or your wife like you can still care about each other to the extent that

04:45:02.300 you care about your children together so you care about having a good relationship with each other

04:45:06.000 still you know yeah at that point it's more of like a companionship than i'd like love yeah like

04:45:13.320 marriage isn't like your friends like you're committing to each other for life i i see it like that

04:45:18.520 that's why i'm waiting to get serious about that because i want it to be someone who i'm with

04:45:24.020 forever and i'm going to commit myself to them like that so absolutely i just think that people

04:45:30.200 are very lucy goose with marriage and it shouldn't be that way i think it's sacred and they're like

04:45:36.000 yeah it's something that came from god not government or anything like that marriage came from what god

04:45:43.660 yes love or what marriage oh don't it i don't know we have stochastic decay here

04:45:52.440 violet can you read this hey brian question for the lackluster panel other than simp handyman

04:46:00.660 what is the most attractive hobby a man can have

04:46:03.260 um we'll go around the table starting with you i like uh when a man is into things like sports

04:46:16.200 and comedy and i like when we can connect on things like that so yeah little hobbies like that

04:46:23.600 um i like when a guy likes like building stuff like whether it's furniture or like i don't know

04:46:35.660 just doing something with his hands yeah um i'll go with hunting hunting okay i'll go with just straight

04:46:43.380 like businessman ceo cfo or i feel like being in the sports industry is an attractive job as well

04:46:52.020 like a sports agent sports like going in a sports management or something like that

04:46:58.400 yeah okay what's the most attractive career for a woman a mom probably honestly probably

04:47:07.880 yeah home mom uh that's probably um it's like the best thing a woman can do like an actual job

04:47:15.080 i want to i want to say hmm yeah i was gonna say massage therapist no men are way better

04:47:24.100 they are better massage therapists um what about like as a nurse but then or teacher no not nurse not

04:47:32.820 teacher but then like women who are massage therapists they also are like really don't want to

04:47:41.400 massage you massage you because they've been doing it all fucking day so you think it's a catch like

04:47:47.200 you think a girl who's a massage therapist is a catch because it's like especially if you're a guy

04:47:51.460 who like you're an athlete or you work out you're like oh fuck that'd be fucking amazing my girlfriend

04:47:56.120 massage wouldn't massage me all the time a lot of these massage chicks don't want to massage you for

04:48:00.960 free they would do it if they loved you yeah but they get it so much they're like women who do

04:48:08.840 massage therapy get it so much that it's probably annoying like okay yeah i get it you want to

04:48:14.300 fucking massage because i'm a massage therapist like they probably burned out on it um but is it an

04:48:20.280 l guys like is it kind of an l if you're like if hmm she's like massaging other dudes is that kind of

04:48:31.900 an l if your girlfriend or wife is for her career it's like non-sexual it's like massage is totally

04:48:39.240 legit i would probably have a problem i wonder is that like an l chat chat do you think that's a l

04:48:46.020 yeah it could potentially really i feel like it's not like sexual though i don't think it is like

04:48:55.160 massages like it's look there are some like sketchy like massage parlor type places but

04:49:01.960 there are legitimate massage professionals so yeah um oh yeah i'm an idiot i forgot about

04:49:11.320 rubbing tugs it is it is yeah i she's like massaging it might be an l because yeah it might be an l to

04:49:18.760 i think it is might be an l okay all right i don't know how did how the oh we have some chats here uh

04:49:26.900 where did we leave off queen did we do this one

04:49:31.120 did we do this one we haven't done that one either

04:49:36.260 uh violet can you read this one cute and gray blue dress in middle you're more base than you think

04:49:45.020 black shirt you're super base and i appreciate your takes tank i disapprove of your lifestyle

04:49:50.120 but i think you're super based big labia is the only blm thank you ligma johnson can you read this

04:49:59.000 all right yasmin can you read this one why not talk to yasmin really proud of her as a persian

04:50:05.780 woman who values family and carries herself with dignity it's great to have women like her who make

04:50:11.460 great mothers word word word okay thank you man appreciate it all right guys get your last chats

04:50:19.620 and i'm gonna wrap up the show here pretty quick if you want to um were we on a conversational thread

04:50:26.900 i forgot sorry guys i'm at my last bit of brain fuel here you're just talking about the jobs jobs i feel

04:50:35.060 like i had one of my questions here pulled up but uh were we gonna react to

04:50:43.300 uh what was it sorry guys i'm just going over my notes here for the show

04:50:47.860 uh is it a deal breaker if a guy doesn't go down on you is that it i don't know if that was it

04:50:53.780 i think it is if he expects you to go down on him i really like i mean i love giving head but i do

04:51:05.540 like when a guy's good at giving me head so i do not ever get it or wrong be sad so i guess no i mean

04:51:11.940 yes it's a deal breaker that's yeah i'd say yeah it's a deal breaker no it's not a deal breaker

04:51:19.540 that's an answer uh i so i haven't gone down on a girl in like since the bush administration so

04:51:27.860 like that's like 2007 2008 um so it's like i'm 100 for real so for real i'm not joking huh

04:51:36.500 since 2007 i have not gone down on a girl since 2008 2007 2008 the bush administer the bush george

04:51:45.460 bush jr you should try it i have tried it i've tried it wasn't a fan you tried it again not since

04:51:54.900 the bush administration maybe it doesn't feel this doesn't sound natural to me like i get girl

04:52:01.220 going down on a guy but a guy going on down on a girl based w's in the chat i think brian i think

04:52:07.380 you're gonna find a girl one day you love and then you're gonna love going down no i've i've loved

04:52:11.780 women what's your what's your issue with it for you know first off the neck hurts the neck a little

04:52:17.780 bit you know so there's that don't you think giving head hurts the woman's necks a little bit

04:52:25.300 well i have i actually legit have some neck pain issues but um okay whatever natty uh

04:52:31.780 i'm not kidding uh but uh it's different it's so different i think it might be

04:52:42.740 it's well there is like a surprise for women at the end because we get the big load but the women

04:52:47.860 i mean when guys are going down on us it's kind of like we got to really like let you know like okay

04:52:52.340 i'm done you know because there's nothing spraying in your face well um sometimes yeah some women are

04:52:57.540 squirters well yeah i just don't think that that's gonna happen from being eaten out from eating

04:53:04.660 out yeah i like you can finger me and i might you know have some juices like spraying at you but not

04:53:12.100 being eaten out i mean that is true i think most women when it comes to squirting and that's actually

04:53:16.740 typically tends to be from a g-spot orgasm versus uh but uh um it's different because like

04:53:28.020 it's different i do think it's whatever you don't think it's different i do think it's different

04:53:33.460 i just think that oh you think it's easier for you guys it's easier no no no wait nick you think it's

04:53:39.300 easier the actual okay the actual technical like it's

04:53:48.180 it's physically it's easier but there's other components you know that granted you are an asian

04:53:58.580 woman what asian people don't have like they have less or they don't have they have the cutest little

04:54:05.860 vaginas that's for sure well actually what were you i've seen some japanese one huh what no well uh

04:54:13.540 my understanding is asian people don't have a certain sweat like you don't have body odor yeah

04:54:21.060 and that in addition to just like body odor that also translates to body odor

04:54:30.500 in the pussy region this is an armpit right like this is basically an armpit for women that's what it

04:54:37.460 is that's why well that's not what i'm saying but like asian women they lack the and men men also

04:54:42.500 well men don't have pussies but uh also asian men uh either have minimal or no body odor because

04:54:50.980 there's a certain i don't know if it's it's just a gene or is it a gene gene but that no it's a thing

04:54:56.820 it's actually very true it is a thing i don't work i've never put on deodorant it is a thing asian

04:55:02.340 people most i don't know if it's all asian people but a large portion of asian of people who are asian

04:55:08.740 uh they lack a gene or there's a gene difference where they don't have body odor or minimal body odor

04:55:15.860 so i'm so jealous of that that's really cool word and they don't grow a lot of hair i heard too

04:55:23.780 i think the hair is another component i'm the hairiest person like the fact that you don't wait why did you

04:55:31.620 say based nick i'm gonna pretend like you need to just make my dick go soft

04:55:39.700 forget anything else you're wait you're what violet i'm very hairy yeah i have to like

04:55:45.620 shave every well i'm mexican and italian okay i'm lots of hair comes with that so i gotta shave like

04:55:52.500 everything i tried laser hair removal and that didn't work now i know you're not a natural beauty

04:55:58.660 but i think maybe you should ask her about laser hair very striking oh yeah got the connection

04:56:07.300 what it's different also the other thing is like

04:56:13.620 blood comes out of there once a month so that's like another factor

04:56:18.100 that's true don't eat her out when she's on her period then yeah but it's like i don't think our

04:56:26.180 ancestors did that like probably not i don't think our male ancestors did that actually they probably

04:56:32.420 were just probably doing wild diving like my eighth grade teacher told me that when women had periods

04:56:38.820 back in the day that they would just sit on sit on like a stick for a week based let's go why i just

04:56:44.500 think about that sometimes just kidding chat um okay last question what would you say to a guy who

04:56:50.100 got a girl pregnant and she wants the kid but he doesn't starting with you violet

04:56:58.260 you say a girl who got a guy pregnant no what would you say to a guy who got a girl pregnant

04:57:03.380 she wants the kid but he doesn't what would you say to him he's like oh man like i don't really i'm

04:57:16.820 not ready to be a father like i don't want to have i'm not ready to have kids yet like i'm not in the

04:57:22.820 right place mentally i'm not in the right place emotionally i'm not in the right place financially

04:57:28.020 what do you say to him step it up i don't know uh just basically keeping

04:57:39.780 keeping her

04:57:43.060 what are you what are you doing you're like brian what what are you doing ignore my facial expression

04:57:49.140 okay because it's freaking me out um why is it because i'm like am i like disappointing

04:57:53.540 you and what i'm saying right now go ahead okay um yeah i think that you have to take responsibility

04:58:03.140 for your actions and basically be a man it's time to grow up okay uh what what do you say do you agree

04:58:12.020 with violet i mean yeah if she wants to keep the kid then like he needs to live with that and

04:58:24.100 do that oh did you have more sorry no i'm good i'm good yeah i feel like my first reaction would

04:58:30.500 like yeah yeah because that sucks but i mean at the end of the day he doesn't really have a choice

04:58:35.380 but to co-parent the kid or be there for the kid and that like that the best thing you can do is like

04:58:41.780 be present for that kid and i feel like god always has a plan so even if he doesn't feel ready once

04:58:47.140 the kids here might be different okay madison what about you i agree with all of them basically do you

04:58:52.980 think that if he didn't want to have a kid he should have just kept it in his pants

04:58:59.460 not necessarily keep it in your pants but like use protection or something yeah

04:59:05.540 the consequences of intimacy is getting pregnant so if you don't want pregnancy then you should be

04:59:12.900 careful or try to do things to prevent it from happening i mean have the conversation with the

04:59:21.380 girl like if you're gonna be yeah intimate with her then talk about if she's on birth control or if

04:59:28.740 you're gonna use a condom or whatever yeah so nick what are you typing

04:59:34.180 nick can you not do that anymore all right i mean yeah it's it's if he should keep it in his pants

04:59:48.500 maybe he should find other but you're saying tough you're you were saying like oh tough like

04:59:56.660 should have thought of that yeah yeah it's kind of like living with the consequences okay um are you

05:00:02.340 guys pro-choice or pro-life i'm pro-life i've gone back and forth but i would say pro-choice

05:00:16.340 okay yeah something i haven't made a decision on i always go back and forth on and i don't really know

05:00:22.020 no aren't you conservative and religious yeah you don't know that have you had have you had an

05:00:30.660 abortion no you're not certain yet well i get the pro-choice but also i don't want to make a decision

05:00:38.820 for someone else i don't think it's my place to decide what someone else what about on your on a

05:00:43.940 personal level for you oh for myself yeah pro-life okay but you're just okay i see i see what you're

05:00:49.700 saying okay um yeah i was just curious are you pro-choice i need to keep my opinion on that one

05:00:59.620 private hmm did you have an abortion last two questions no it's not that um if your boyfriend

05:01:09.780 or husband was wrongfully convicted how long would you wait like he's in jail

05:01:14.820 prison oh gosh i don't know it's kind of like having your man off to the war you'd leave him

05:01:24.020 no of course not i would stay by i would love to be a military wife because i feel like i'd be really

05:01:28.980 good at it like you know i hate cheaters and like my stepdad had his wife cheat on him when he was in

05:01:36.900 the military it's just like how can you do that to someone they're all fighting for your country

05:01:41.060 fighting for you supporting your family yeah what was i saying um when i wait for my guy in if he was

05:01:50.100 incarcerated um i i'd say yes yes okay it was wrongfully right yeah i would wait 10 years yes

05:02:01.780 it feels frankie i would wait forever conjugal visits are an option absolutely visitation can be

05:02:11.620 done okay last question if the grim reaper comes and says should i take your life or your husband's

05:02:17.460 who do you choose what the grim reaper the grim reaper death comes and says should i take your life

05:02:28.980 or your husband's who do you choose myself right there's no i don't think there's a right or wrong

05:02:34.900 answer what about you mine i would choose myself i don't want to live with the guilt oh my god these

05:02:41.060 girls okay okay i said mine oh okay all right but then you think about it strategically if you were

05:02:47.540 to say him then he would go and kill him and then maybe the guy's like manly enough to have a fight

05:02:53.140 you know and then he kills him off actually this kind of relates to what we were talking about before

05:02:58.420 the show you're talking about like alpha beta what was your whole thing on that there's a lot of beta

05:03:04.820 males a lot of beta males but you said like wouldn't you would like a you would want a guy to sacrifice

05:03:12.340 his life for you that would be the alpha male thing right yeah okay yeah i guess that's protection yeah

05:03:22.340 i actually think the most alpha thing and we said this during the show i talked to you about this

05:03:28.660 before the show and i don't buy into the whole alpha beta thing i mean at the vid i would it's

05:03:35.620 probably a spectrum it's not like you're out either alpha or beta there's probably like degrees to this

05:03:40.740 shit plus i think it's just kind of cringy um categorization especially dudes who are like i'm

05:03:48.660 fucking i'm so alpha that's cringe as fuck um but uh wouldn't it be the most alpha thing for the guy

05:03:58.660 like to sacrifice his woman and then continue on living and just get a new woman isn't that like

05:04:04.020 pretty fucking based in alpha no that's kind of gangster right i mean

05:04:11.380 no can't he do the same thing isn't that based like can't he just procreate with his

05:04:16.500 the same woman why does he have to like sacrifice her get a new one i don't know in just some situation

05:04:21.860 where one of them has to die like wouldn't be that be like the most cutthroat alpha shit like okay you can

05:04:28.900 isn't that the most alpha thing like the beta thing would be i'm so i'm like the white knight

05:04:35.460 simp thing i'm gonna sacrifice i'm gonna take the bullet for you

05:04:41.380 the most alpha thing would be like i think it's the opposite push your wife i think the

05:04:46.740 beta would sacrifice the woman the the what i think the beta would be the one that would sacrifice the

05:04:53.860 woman and then alpha would sacrifice himself like it i do think technically speaking it is the most alpha

05:05:02.020 thing to sacrifice your girl right i mean evolutionarily i guess to keep you because you could survive yeah

05:05:11.940 that's alpha you survive right am i wrong am i wrong chat it's kind of alpha

05:05:22.980 alpha male preserves himself he finds another woman starts another family boom alpha

05:05:27.540 what if it's like two men in war does the man who sacrificed the other man is he out alpha

05:05:37.220 that man who he just sacrificed is he in a situation where one of them has to die yeah he's making the

05:05:43.700 decision from a purely like utilitarian pragmatic point of view you get to continue

05:05:52.980 that's a tough question um

05:06:03.140 the alpha is the one who's gonna just say like no just sacrifice me he's gonna yell freedom if one of

05:06:12.500 you has to if one of you fuck i mean if one of you has to die

05:06:16.820 survival

05:06:24.580 no the beta the beta would probably be like i don't want to die take him i don't want to die yet

05:06:35.300 yeah i don't know that's hmm get your calculator thing on while you're thinking

05:06:42.260 wait i had another question for this but it slipped my mind it was such a good question

05:06:46.820 um i'm gonna i'm gonna wrap i'm gonna wrap here pretty soon

05:06:50.580 fuck what was the question uh wait

05:06:56.500 it was the grammar for alpha beta what was it okay we're talking about alpha beta

05:07:04.340 yeah i'll do these chats maybe it'll come back to me violet can you

05:07:08.500 read this one i think it's this one

05:07:10.980 just to follow up i was telling her to get this guy okay thank you darian for for making her cry

05:07:19.060 buddy because men will know what lies other men might say to take advantage of women also sometimes

05:07:27.060 won't women will let other women say something is okay because they do it

05:07:32.340 oh okay i get you yeah that's true because women are agreeable

05:07:42.340 so we just will live in chaos together yeah go ahead yasmin yasmin yasmin

05:07:49.540 let's get married and build a persian army

05:07:52.100 your response

05:07:56.900 just i will i will put absolutely danza danza tastic i need you to change your profile picture and your

05:08:06.420 name to xerxes so get it go find the picture of xerxes change your name to xerxes tell yasmin

05:08:14.900 that she will be empress of all greece and i will put in a good word for you good sir okay change it

05:08:24.980 send another chat i'll put in good word okay uh it's just what's up with these dog photos what the

05:08:29.700 fuck we want nick in the chat it's just i didn't know nick was typing in the chat i didn't know he's

05:08:34.660 doing that um okay um all right what was my question god damn alpha beta where we got was it a video

05:08:45.220 fuck it was something really good we were saying like the grim reaper if

05:08:53.140 it was you or your husband which would do sacrifice

05:08:57.940 yeah i forgot

05:09:00.340 shit totally lost my forgot what it was um

05:09:06.580 oh here we go can you hide that

05:09:10.980 violet can you read this does brian advocate for

05:09:14.420 large labia because he has one he identifies as binary gender fluid dang it hold on i'll pull it

05:09:21.060 i'll pull it back up where'd it go he also said he can flap his wings and fly away he admitted it in a

05:09:27.540 video oh yeah this was like from a couple years ago i did this like video and i was talking to a girl

05:09:34.420 and i said i i identified as a non-binary gender fluid dragon can please get it right nickelodeon

05:09:42.740 and that i can flap my wings and fly away

05:09:46.740 whoosh into the sky and it got it went like crazy viral everywhere but nobody credited me because people

05:09:52.180 were like repose like stealing the clip it's fine um

05:09:58.100 the fuck was my something about like alpha beta

05:10:02.100 shit

05:10:04.500 totally i don't remember slipped my mind uh i think i had a question for you violet what's wrong with you

05:10:10.260 i don't know um nothing really i'm just very sexually free um got a little daddy issues going on

05:10:23.220 um just your average texas girl

05:10:28.420 are your parents still together no divorce yes okay i have a stepdad

05:10:34.100 word what the what was the thing with the alpha beta fuck um did you have more on that

05:10:47.380 i mean that's like the problem with society right now is men are not men

05:10:55.300 they're soy boys they're so boys soy boys yeah

05:10:58.660 okay but also at the same time women are not women either like most women are just like feminists

05:11:06.580 can i focus on their career sorry does that do y'all have siblings yes

05:11:11.620 all of y'all do how many siblings i have a younger brother and a younger sister

05:11:16.980 okay what about you i have a sister i have three sisters wow i have a younger sister

05:11:23.300 oh i'm sorry for her and i'm just kidding i'm totally kidding do you have any siblings that was

05:11:29.780 good uh yes i have uh that's funny two sisters a brother and six stepbrothers holy moly wow

05:11:37.700 holy camoly that's crazy my grandma grew up with like 16 siblings so that's nothing

05:11:44.340 yeah that's wild i'm forget there's some topic i i like in my mind i was like oh i want to talk

05:11:55.620 about this but it totally whatever um yo guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us to follow

05:12:02.020 drop us a prime sub if you have one uh kai the guy think for the primed 96 think for the tier one

05:12:09.540 hug and thank thank you for the uh tier one appreciate it uh we're going to on twitch before

05:12:17.220 i do my outro i'll probably we'll do a raid on stay safe probably um let me just get my

05:12:26.580 fuck there's

05:12:30.020 i feel like there was something that damn totally forgot uh

05:12:34.260 uh it's not coming to me i'm just gonna have to wrap whatever okay um guys last call was it

05:12:42.020 the video reaction did we have to react to a video alpha beta something related to alpha beta

05:12:51.620 sigma oh can you read this brian minimal neck pain if you let them sit on your face

05:12:59.780 gorlock will volunteer or dang it i'll get it i'll get it

05:13:05.860 let's hold on

05:13:09.060 gorlock will volunteer for you to test this violet will go violet got chewbacca gina credit to brian

05:13:14.340 for making through the pod with the bs doubles doubles and animal fries on me got

05:13:19.620 not a fast get nick a mic too i'm out yo lp thank you so much for your patronage man much

05:13:24.260 appreciated thank you to everybody else uh for your patronage tonight really appreciate it um

05:13:29.380 it means the world it's been uh okay um i'll i'll do a little debrief before i wrap up the show

05:13:37.540 um oh we have a chat here here we go

05:13:44.020 go ahead yasmine read it you will be the empress of all greece with her army

05:13:49.380 do you accept xerxes wedding proposal

05:13:58.580 thermopoly what you're let me ask you um what what are your what's your thoughts on like the whole hot

05:14:03.780 gates campaign what's hot like thermopoly like what are your thoughts on thermopoly what's that 300

05:14:12.020 oh the movie

05:14:17.940 this girl um i think it was hold on let me let me google this thermopoly was it the more

05:14:27.540 the battle of thermopoly what are your thoughts on that i will give you a hundred dollars if you guess

05:14:34.020 within a century of when that war occurred 300 bc i'm sorry 480 bc you're close

05:14:46.100 persian empire xerxes the first

05:14:51.380 do you have thoughts on the battle of thermopyla am i even pronouncing right is it thermopylai

05:14:55.940 thermopylai thermopylai is it thermopylai persipolis what persipolis huh i don't know

05:15:11.460 i love the movie 300 and it's a great movie troy so good um they all are just very okay sexy

05:15:19.140 good times okay um i feel like something came to me and then i forgot oh man wait uh

05:15:29.700 so can i hook you up with that dude though are you down he's persian depends he's persian

05:15:35.940 look maybe okay all right i don't know is that that looks like a 3d i don't know that doesn't look

05:15:41.620 like him okay oh yeah i was gonna do a quick debrief um okay guys so uh yeah it was an interesting

05:15:48.260 show um we had 10 girls flake we had four no shows or four wait um it's getting i know in

05:15:58.580 previous episodes i did say hey we're gonna like try to reduce bringing on only fans girls but

05:16:03.620 it's hard because on one hand we've had really flaky only fans girls but

05:16:10.500 in some regards some of them are have more incentive to come be on the show

05:16:14.100 so we de-prioritized for a little bit bringing on only fans girls

05:16:22.420 some of them are flaky some of them aren't

05:16:26.260 uh

05:16:29.780 so in any case we had 10 flakes today before i even set before the show starts i've already

05:16:35.300 done the full work day um i'm last minute messaging people hey do you have anybody else

05:16:40.420 who can come i'm trying to get replacements uh madison and nick went to the mean streets of

05:16:46.820 viola vista to try to find replacements that didn't pan out i got girls walking off the show she the

05:16:54.260 this girl walked off the show um i'm not gonna lie like this show is

05:17:03.780 i need to i probably need to find somebody else to do the talent recruitment because it's like

05:17:08.020 like literally sucking the soul out of me i'm getting very agitated very easily i used to have

05:17:13.540 a pretty good poker face but now i just lose it very quickly um the show some of you have no noted

05:17:20.500 this like it's literally i'm not like trying to be like woe is me the show is literally sucking

05:17:25.620 the fucking life out of me i'm not gonna lie this is not i'm like

05:17:30.500 honestly if it was just the show but like honestly

05:17:37.220 dealing with all the people flaking and being late like to me it's such a disrespect thing

05:17:45.140 because i'm a very punctual person if i say i'm gonna be somewhere i'm gonna be somewhere i'd

05:17:49.060 like stick to my plans i'm i believe commitment's very important and like for people to just straight

05:17:54.740 up no show so what i'm saying is they don't even they will just

05:18:01.620 they won't even tell you they're oh sorry they don't even have the courtesy to take 10 seconds to

05:18:07.220 say even an hour before which i still think is rude sorry i can't make it uh to me as somebody who

05:18:14.980 maybe i'm kind of old school like i don't bail on plans if i say i'm gonna be somewhere i'm gonna be

05:18:20.820 there um sometimes i start the show late out of necessity like i'm a very punctual person but i

05:18:28.740 end up running late to the studio because i'm spending two or three hours before the show

05:18:33.860 trying to coordinate with 10 different people to try to get the show to happen i'm

05:18:39.380 i'm scrambling before the show the talent coordination is probably the biggest burn on me

05:18:48.020 when it comes to this if i had somebody else handling it i'd probably it'd be much better for me

05:18:53.300 uh and there's just like a lot of shit with the show that's frustrating

05:19:01.060 and uh and then i'm just like dealing with like annoying shit like i don't know i told you from

05:19:06.100 a couple shows ago there's a girl that's in another country who's literally stalking and harassing me

05:19:11.620 so dude just like i had a i had to call the police yesterday and then today before the show like the

05:19:21.700 this is the i was on the phone for 30 minutes with the cops today before i should be focusing

05:19:27.300 on working on the show so uh viewers i uh if i'm a little uh quick with the i don't know what's the term

05:19:35.940 um my fuse is short uh it's like brothers i'm working 80 hours a week on the show i'm dealing

05:19:42.740 with a bunch of bullshit behind the scenes i'm dealing with like very unreliable disrespectful

05:19:48.580 people when it comes to dealing with the show these people whether they're only fans girls whether

05:19:53.620 they're college girls whether they're working professionals have absolutely no respect for your

05:19:59.620 time for like just even having the courtesy to take 10 seconds to just say even the hour before

05:20:07.380 just tell us you're not going to make it on the show don't commit don't like don't commit to the

05:20:11.780 anyways whatever um it's just it's frustrating guys um and uh and it's it's not just frustrating for me

05:20:20.260 because like we have people who i don't know if tonight we had many people um we have people that

05:20:26.740 will drive hours to be here we have people that will fly to be here people from the east coast

05:20:32.740 will fly five hours they'll book a hotel they'll book a flight spend hundreds if not thousands of

05:20:37.700 dollars to come be on the show and so it doesn't i'm not just looking at this from a purely selfish

05:20:44.260 point of view i feel disrespected on behalf of the people that spend time and money to come be on the

05:20:51.540 show and these people who live in town or who they're coming from la whatever don't have the

05:20:58.100 courtesy to give us 24 hours notice or don't even have the courtesy to at least an hour before which

05:21:04.020 again i still think is rude to cancel that last minute to just say we can't make it because it's

05:21:09.780 whatever you want to disrespect me you want to troll me fine but like we have other people who are

05:21:14.260 innocent in this whole thing who come out who go out of their way to come be on the show

05:21:20.900 and if one day it's plausible that we just get a bunch of flakes and we can't like we don't have

05:21:27.620 a show we had that once where we had a we basically canceled the show and we had somebody who drew drove

05:21:36.020 here for three hours it's not just fucking us over you might have your opinions on the whatever podcast

05:21:41.220 but it pisses me off on behalf of the other people who are pure totally innocent and because of your

05:21:47.700 inconsideration your unreliability and your flakiness that you're potentially fucking them

05:21:54.580 over financially i'm more i get more upset about that than whatever you're just flaking on us who

05:22:00.180 cares but i mean it's still upsetting but i'm trying to think about these other people so all right we

05:22:05.700 have brandon hunter make guests pay a deposit to be on the show give it back if they show up we love

05:22:10.500 violet bring her back yeah i'd be down i'm violet was great be happy to have her back um i don't

05:22:16.020 know if she'll be back after i've kind of roasted her a little bit but uh oh i don't think i was

05:22:20.500 actually going to if you invited me oh super down do you want to come on tuesday maybe yeah i think we

05:22:26.180 might fingers crossed i super overbooked on tuesday 15 people i booked on tuesday chances are we're

05:22:34.420 probably gonna get some flakes so if you want we can have you be second to hat girl if you're down

05:22:39.060 let me know tomorrow night if you no just do you want to you want to just come on tuesday

05:22:44.820 okay do you have a hotel or you're well i booked a place in palm springs because i was going to go

05:22:49.460 out there tonight after this okay so it's booked tonight until is it airbnb or yeah it's until when

05:22:55.700 until friday okay so you would just drive back out here and just come back yeah if you're down i'm down

05:23:01.460 to have you okay i'll let you um and then brandon make guests pay a deposit to be on the show get the

05:23:06.100 back well here's the problem so um for a period of two weeks i attempted to implement this guest

05:23:15.300 deposit thing um my issue is is that i do think here's the issue with the deposit i can only request

05:23:24.420 a deposit for women who request to be on the show we do outreach too where we invite people to be on the

05:23:31.140 show there's no way i'm gonna invite someone to be on the show like be the first to reach out

05:23:36.580 and say pay us a deposit not gonna work so it can only that only addresses people who reach out to us

05:23:45.460 we did it for two weeks my concern though with the deposit is that i believe that women who would

05:23:52.340 otherwise show up it's just one extra step that they don't want to take and it will turn away

05:24:00.340 and again this would be a refundable deposit we made it a hundred dollars 100 you get paid

05:24:06.100 immediately back you just show up you go if you're on the show we'll pay you back

05:24:12.580 i do think it will minimize to some degree some of the women that would otherwise show up they just

05:24:19.940 like i don't know what if he doesn't give it back some shit like that you know so it's a balancing act

05:24:26.980 so i'm thinking i'm probably i implemented it but i unimplemented it uh like a day or two ago so i

05:24:34.660 don't know um what's it called i don't remember um it's a good no i've thought about i've definitely

05:24:41.300 thought about it but i just uh yeah i don't know okay uh whoops let me pull do this last chat and then

05:24:49.940 we're gonna wrap oh shit violet can you read this one important question for the panel if your partner's

05:24:55.380 her leg would you cut up a cucumber for him is that a trick question no i had a girlfriend who

05:25:05.460 like i was injured and i asked her to like make cut cucumbers for me and she got butt hurt

05:25:12.020 about it i don't get it don't get what why do you make cucumbers or why do you cut cucumbers for the

05:25:19.540 injured leg no not i just wanted like a snack oh i thought you were putting the cucumbers on your

05:25:25.460 leg no no okay that's cute of course yes i'll make a little cucumber sandwiches and those are so fun

05:25:33.780 okay cool yes stochastic this guy uh

05:25:43.620 oh yeah that was to the girls all right oh my god we'll feast all right we got a wrap we've gone too

05:25:48.740 late um all right oh oh no what's his name stopped um

05:25:53.620 um the uh stay safe went off okay we're gonna raid if you're on twitch i'm gonna raid frost adamus

05:26:01.780 um he's playing hardcore on world of warcraft classic i don't know is he playing a mage

05:26:08.900 is he a major or war i think he's playing a warlock

05:26:12.340 um okay i'm gonna send you guys over to frost now um those of you here i'll do my little intro really

05:26:18.020 quick um so guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in

05:26:21.940 tonight you can anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that

05:26:26.260 thank you to everyone who super chats donate supports the show uh really appreciate it guys

05:26:30.260 sorry i'm a little tired um thank you to the panel and uh any women who want to be on the show dm

05:26:37.060 out whatever on instagram we will be live again tuesday at 5 p.m pacific hopefully with a proper panel

05:26:43.540 um maybe violet will be back we'll see and uh i'm gonna go send the raid over on twitch

05:26:50.100 and uh let's see uh are we good are we good on all the chats i think yeah we're good okay

05:27:00.420 wait did we get another one no okay all right guys um yeah we'll see you tuesday 5 p.m pacific

05:27:05.940 uh see you next time good night guys good night good night oh sevens in the oh too late okay you can

Whatever Podcast - October 16, 2023

She Got REVENGE On Him By SLEEPING With Him？! ｜ Dating Talk #109

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