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00:02:34.640 without further ado we're gonna have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name

00:02:38.860 age and occupation go ahead i'm anisa godina i'm 28 and i'm a cocktail server in las vegas

00:02:46.480 it's cocktail server do you do anything else do you do content creation yeah we do the content

00:02:51.300 creation yeah okay social media stuff yeah okay no of though yes of oh yes of us is up and running

00:02:57.320 yeah it's just posted on my story about it yeah today cocktail waitress and also okay um

00:03:03.360 and uh how long have you been doing of for like a month yeah oh just one month yeah this is new this

00:03:10.140 is fresh how did you get dragged into the depths of hell just kidding just kidding to the dark side

00:03:16.480 to the dark side i guess um i was just seeing how like well other girls were doing yeah i was really

00:03:21.820 against it for a while just because like my views and how to say things but um i do think what do you

00:03:27.820 mean uh i think i'm a little red pill yeah so like i get it i get the only fan thing and it has a

00:03:32.600 really negative stigma for sure but i know i can't do only fans forever i can't be a bottle girl

00:03:38.280 forever so i want to you know make some money in only fans you want to get the bag you want to get

00:03:42.200 i want to get the bag yes okay gotcha can i just have you push those cups into the table a little

00:03:46.620 more thank you uh what about you hi i'm ellie um i'm 21 i'm a student right now at santa barbara city

00:03:53.820 yeah i mean i'm from north carolina but i live in ivy so north carolina do they have accents

00:03:59.560 oh my god yeah the worst because you don't i don't detect an accent from i don't really have

00:04:03.760 one only if like i go back home for a little bit i do but their accents are like does your accent

00:04:08.940 kick in when you're intoxicated oh yeah i've heard that i sound real southern okay yeah y'all

00:04:15.380 y'all don't know what do you what are you studying at santa barbara city college political science

00:04:21.100 political science okay there you go do you uh what do you want to do with that you want to maybe get

00:04:25.660 into politics kind of i'm kind of more towards like the like international relations like side

00:04:31.800 of it so i want to like definitely like go travel and like do maybe like work in a different country

00:04:36.760 okay but i do love politics okay what about you hi i'm sophie and i'm 20 and i'm currently working

00:04:43.780 as a barista as a barista yes okay welcome are you in school right now or no not at the moment you

00:04:50.360 were in school previously though yes well do you know what you were what were you studying i was an art

00:04:54.540 major art major yeah okay and you do tattoos right yes and are you working on becoming a professional

00:05:00.480 tattoo artist does that kind of work the direction yeah that's the goal i mean i've been wanting to do

00:05:04.220 that since i was like 12 so since you were 12 yeah when did you get your first tattoo um i mean i

00:05:10.960 started doing my own when i was like i don't know 14 but you were doing your own like shit is sticking

00:05:15.640 folks yeah but um yeah i got i got my like first real one when i was 18 so okay any face tattoos

00:05:22.100 coming in the near future no face is there anywhere you won't tattoo um i don't really know if i'd go

00:05:29.920 for my neck but i that's it okay i'm not i'm not sure about how many tattoos do you have i honestly

00:05:36.060 have no clue no clue a lot yeah okay got it um and do you have to go to school to uh become a or you

00:05:43.020 need to be licensed to become a tattoo artist but so do you need to do an apprenticeship how does that

00:05:48.780 work um usually yeah you try to get an apprenticeship i know some people that are just self-taught and

00:05:55.780 made their way into a shop but i mean the you know traditional way to go is getting an apprenticeship

00:06:00.420 and like studying under a mentor for a year two years and then okay going from there got it what

00:06:06.640 about you i'm julia and um i am also barista we work together um and i'm also a nanny and i go to

00:06:16.100 santa barbara city college gotcha age i'm 21 21 uh what do you study at santa barbara city college

00:06:22.620 communication calm okay what about you hi my name is tyus um some of you watching this might know me

00:06:30.420 as sasha my alter ego i'm 27 i work as a bottle girl i'm also a photographer and i do social media

00:06:39.260 as well and i'm from well i live in vegas but i'm from brazil and then lived in boston as well

00:06:44.520 you speak portuguese i do speak portuguese very cool very cool fluently or fluently yeah okay and

00:06:50.460 you said you also do social media do you also do only fans uh no i don't not yet not yet or so

00:06:57.300 so i actually um quit only fans oh so okay you used to do yes so back in um 2021 my husband had

00:07:07.180 brain surgery and pandemic was happening sure he was in the hospital i was out of work taking

00:07:12.920 care of him i did only fans for maybe six months back in 2021 and then earlier this year i did only

00:07:19.800 fans for just a couple months to see what i could get back onto it but i don't know i didn't like it

00:07:26.320 that much so okay yeah but it was mostly when he had brain surgery and we couldn't really be doing

00:07:31.180 anything so i was just at home and couldn't you know work has he uh has he recovered from the

00:07:37.360 yeah he's like 90 better yeah wow that's brain surgery that's very uh he had three of them so

00:07:42.780 three yeah three he have a cancer aneurysm so he had a cystic tumor in his i guess the canal that

00:07:50.220 drains spinal fluid um so they had to take that out and then the first surgery didn't go too well so

00:07:55.440 they had to do two more wow yeah well glad to hear that he's recovered thank you did you get

00:08:00.980 into only fans partly because maybe things were difficult financially when he was no not necessarily

00:08:07.720 um okay when i was a little bit younger i did social media like modeling and stuff um and i knew

00:08:15.320 a lot of girls that did do like snapchat things and only fans and i just remember that they were making

00:08:22.060 really good money and i remember i had made some good money back then um being a photographer i

00:08:27.320 shot a lot of girls for only fans and i was like damn like this could be this could be fun this could

00:08:34.300 be easy so yeah got it okay cool what about you um my name is jessica i go to school fully online

00:08:41.260 at sierra college back in my hometown in sacramento and i said and studying interior design there and i am

00:08:47.960 a babysitter and i also work at a restaurant oh wow okay full plate there uh age i'm 19 19 and

00:08:56.220 why did you and you live in ivy you live in santa barbara i do live in ivy i you don't go to school

00:09:02.360 here no you do online classes for sierra yes i hated my life back home because it was just like no one's

00:09:08.720 there like everyone graduated yeah like there's nothing there for me so i came out here and i'm

00:09:12.940 transferring to arizona state next year so it's just like a fun little two years here okay yeah

00:09:17.100 arizona asu right yes or asu yeah arizona state university it's a pretty big party school

00:09:23.400 is that kind of one of the reasons why they have a really good interior design program yeah got it

00:09:28.780 what about you um my name is michaela i'm 21 and i go to cal state university northridge and i'm majoring

00:09:36.680 in communications okay welcome hi my name is retisha i'm 20 i'm from guam and i go to ucsb and i study

00:09:45.420 feminist studies okay all right feminist studies we'll get in we can get into that later um okay

00:09:52.580 are you a second year or third year i'm a second year second year um how many feminist studies

00:09:59.460 classes have you taken so far this is technically my first year i was a poli-sci major last year

00:10:04.440 oh you switched yeah i switched poli-sci feminist studies and the program is is it's feminist studies

00:10:10.540 right it's not like women's studies or gender studies no it's the feminist feminist studies

00:10:14.520 okay that'll be thank you rhino um so so uh how many classes so far have you uh taken in in that

00:10:23.280 uh discipline i'm in one right now it's mainly what's it called it's like film like it's like

00:10:29.760 film comparative like we're just basically looking at how like feminist feminism is like portrayed

00:10:35.540 in film okay yeah that's it there's not like a feminism 101 workshop type thing no there is

00:10:42.780 that's just the class i have you haven't taken in this quarter okay and you didn't take it any of

00:10:47.300 your freshman year um i think i did like a ge it was just like about like feminism like international

00:10:55.000 feminism just like looking at like movements like comparative movements in like the united states

00:11:00.680 versus in india versus in like different places gotcha uh why did you want to switch from uh

00:11:06.360 political science you said yeah from uh from that to feminist studies i really enjoyed that first

00:11:13.200 class i took and i felt like i applied myself more like i was more interested in it got it um yeah

00:11:18.880 uh what about you um my name is ryan i also go by rhino on my youtube channel i'm a i would say i'm a

00:11:25.600 youtuber that would be my title and i am 26 and i live in la yeah all right welcome back welcome

00:11:34.020 back thank you for having me yeah man thank you for coming okay cool so we're gonna go around the table

00:11:38.020 one more time so what is your current relationship status are you single talking stage situationship

00:11:44.080 friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem if you're single how long have you

00:11:50.120 been single and what's your longest relationship go ahead i'm currently single i've been single for

00:11:57.340 a year and a half a little over a year and a half maybe two years yeah two years okay uh longest

00:12:03.540 relationship about two years two years okay all right what about you so i guess like i'm kind of

00:12:11.180 like in a complicated place but pretty much not i don't know but it's complicated yeah it's been like

00:12:17.040 three years it's he he's in north carland and it's just kind of oh so it's been complicated for

00:12:22.000 three years yeah you've been seeing this guy for three years um and at any point in the three years

00:12:28.100 what like is it an on again off again type thing that's why it's complicated yeah right now it's kind

00:12:32.760 of just like that off again like okay yeah um so right now it's off i think that's what i'm like

00:12:39.780 who who how many how many times has it been on again off again like how many times have you

00:12:47.720 broken up got back together

00:12:49.500 shit 10 20 30 40 more i'd say like maybe like four or five oh okay four which honestly i guess that's

00:13:00.480 not as bad now that i'm thinking about it we were like dating situationship dating not talking

00:13:06.220 dating i don't really know what we are right now so it's like a gray area but i don't think yeah

00:13:11.560 of all the the uh not talkings was it him initiating it or was it you

00:13:17.280 honestly it's kind of 50 50 at first i would like inherently say me just because like i'm not good

00:13:27.000 at communicating but at the same time i try but like the whole time like time zone thing like he

00:13:33.160 usually doesn't talk to me as much as i like try and talk to him okay in my opinion oh so this is

00:13:38.860 long distance yeah he lives in north carolina i'm from raleigh he lives oh right and how long has it

00:13:44.300 been long distance the entire relationship pretty much we like met my like what damn that's great

00:13:52.360 wait three year long distance yeah so we met my like literally two days after i graduated high

00:14:00.660 school okay and he kind of just we just started talking and i was like hey by the way i'm just

00:14:05.380 going to point this out there i'm moving to santa barbara in like a month and he's like no it's fine

00:14:09.220 it's fine you'll be fine and i guess it's been three years so wait okay so a month before a month

00:14:17.920 before you were moving to santa barbara um you met this guy and okay so

00:14:25.920 wait okay when's the last time you guys broke up like broke up or whatever

00:14:33.080 oh good question are you guys currently in an off stage we're like in a huge argument so i'm

00:14:42.320 considering it off i'm pretty sure like i don't know it's kind of like i like love and care about

00:14:47.600 him a lot yeah i don't know but at the same time it's like i live here he lives there it's not

00:14:52.320 working we've probably like broken up like just too many times how and do you go back to north

00:14:59.760 carolina like in the during the summer christmas break that thing i go home for the entire christmas

00:15:05.240 break in the entire like summer break but that's the only time i go home i don't go home like

00:15:09.020 thanksgiving like nothing it's like too far so just two times a year basically but he'll he used

00:15:13.920 to come and visit me this year not really but um usually he comes and visits me and we'll stay for

00:15:21.340 like a month like yeah for like a minute but like not recently he doesn't have a job where's he work

00:15:27.240 he does kind of he's a student too but like i don't know i think he does like instacart on the

00:15:32.000 side but he goes to like school in north carolina he goes to unc charlotte so can i ask you a question

00:15:37.700 about it do you feel like the past three years have been a waste no i don't think so because i

00:15:44.540 do like have like a really like deep love for him but okay i don't know it's just like

00:15:50.560 i don't know i don't regret any of it because i don't know he kind of did make me a little bit more

00:15:56.840 of an independent person and who i am but at the same time i feel like it's almost like an outgrown

00:16:01.720 thing is where i'm like what what's your current you said you're currently arguing what do you guys

00:16:06.960 currently arguing about did he cheat on you oh i don't know spill the t says this is like

00:16:13.160 spill the t says a very public place but like whatever it's a good story exactly i'm prefacing

00:16:18.620 this i don't know who's watching but just a little posture check yeah posture good pot is that how tall

00:16:23.600 are you by the way i'm five foot okay we got her two boosters i'm trying i'm on two it's all good

00:16:28.760 right now yeah actually yeah so what what's what's going on right now so just prefacing this i do love

00:16:39.340 and care about you just in case he's watching but so my birthday was two weekends ago it was my 21st

00:16:45.920 birthday by the way so it was like a big birthday he like for the past like month beforehand was like

00:16:51.780 oh i'm gonna come visit i'm gonna come visit and i was like oh okay like cool that's great

00:16:55.740 nothing and then it got like two days before my birthday i was like you're not coming like

00:17:01.060 obviously like it's two days before and you're not gonna buy a ticket for like 600 and then he was

00:17:05.820 just like yeah sorry so i at least like expected like maybe a card in the mail maybe a gift maybe a

00:17:12.600 phone call no girl no no girl we've been in the argument about it he sounds kind of like a legend

00:17:22.000 good for not kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding that's wild no it was that is wild right i was

00:17:31.940 oh my god no no over done don't let your boyfriend keep you from your husband okay do not let your

00:17:39.000 boyfriend keep you from your husband i'm just i'm just saying you're not wrong girl he's like it's

00:17:43.480 just so what'd you tell him when he didn't get you shit for your 21st oh i gave him so much shit for

00:17:47.860 it i was like no like this is like the biggest most important birthday like yes i was hung over

00:17:52.160 half the day but like still could have made an effort to like call or like do something and then

00:17:57.140 we like got in this whole argument about it and he was like well you don't talk to me anymore it's

00:18:01.840 not like we communicate i was like that's not a valid argument compared to forgetting my birthday

00:18:05.600 okay oh wait so you were you were in an off so we were like kind of fine before that and then

00:18:11.540 it sounds like complicated as you said yeah like like maybe like a couple weeks after i moved here

00:18:17.980 it was kind of like uh we were fine and wait wait wait i just had a realization what okay so you guys

00:18:24.940 have had these what's the longest off period you've had a month two months three months three months four

00:18:33.000 months four months okay so have you been for the three year it's complicated have you been faithful to

00:18:40.520 him yeah you haven't like no other guys no when we're like in our like when we're together like

00:18:46.940 we're together no but i mean when you're off oh when we're off have there been other guys in the

00:18:51.380 picture yeah yeah when he's like when we're completely like not there yeah but for both of you

00:18:57.320 that's the case with him i feel like he does too like he sees other he sees other women oh yeah 100

00:19:02.880 like i feel like he definitely has to be like not that there's that much to do in north carolina but

00:19:08.140 like he's gotta there's gotta be someone there's a lot there's not north carolina oh no god no

00:19:13.800 it's like nothing well okay okay uh so probably a lot of women so but let's say okay you're in one

00:19:22.740 of your off stages and you're dating another guy and you like the guy who lives here which i assume

00:19:27.580 is more convenient and he reaches back out and wants to reconcile do you drop have you ever dropped a

00:19:34.560 guy that you're seeing here because he wants to reconcile yeah i have but i don't know like how

00:19:41.140 likely i would be to do that like now now i mean after the birthday fiasco yeah that was just kind

00:19:47.120 of like messed up like have you ever what did you get him for his birthday he literally we were at like

00:19:53.220 my i went home for the summer we were at my like parents house and my parents bought him a cake

00:19:58.240 i gave him like a gas like gift card because he has like a like he uses gas like crazy because

00:20:03.660 he's always driving so i gave him like gas money give him a gift card and then like i think like

00:20:08.980 the year before that i gave him like a hat and like more money and like gas and i always do like the

00:20:13.540 most like cute like handwritten card because i feel like that's just super sentimental yeah i feel

00:20:19.000 like i kind of like do good on them but like did he send you anything after the whole fiasco of you

00:20:25.820 guys getting mad did he send you any flowers like afterwards no anything no he feels no remorse

00:20:32.140 september 30th have you had sex with him since then i haven't seen him since august you see him

00:20:36.920 again are you gonna have sex with him don't do it don't do it come on no girl no why would he get

00:20:41.860 you a birthday gift if you're literally gonna fuck him after he like doesn't get you a birthday present

00:20:45.860 yeah honestly kind of facts maybe not men that know they fucked up will get you a gift and they

00:20:50.700 will go the extra mile i don't want to back whatever i don't want to be mean like because i don't know

00:20:55.640 you like that but like the fact that he didn't even try to like be like oh here's some like

00:21:00.320 flowers or maybe send like an amazon gift card or something yeah or even a card girl leave this man

00:21:05.820 leave this man okay my goodness you deserve better you're beautiful like thank you cards are free and

00:21:12.000 you're young he's just not that into you it's just not that into me i guess i mean i don't know i don't

00:21:18.560 know him but i mean it it occurs to me that it's very it's it's very possible it occurs to me that

00:21:27.320 it's very possible that he's probably just even what when you've been in an on stage he's probably

00:21:32.300 seeing other women yeah yeah kind of i don't know i think okay i don't know he just does so much

00:21:38.300 like he either does like a lot during his day or nothing and it's just like no no he doesn't have

00:21:43.520 no one's that busy no no no like as wait question when you guys are on how often do you guys like you

00:21:50.080 guys will do phone calls oh you guys call it every day every night type shit yeah that's an l for both

00:21:55.940 of you not no it really is it really what a waste of time i'm not gonna lie no now that i'm like older

00:22:01.320 i realize i'm like that is so stupid like yeah this is this is okay this these are your college years

00:22:07.740 and you're you're in a long distance it's it's not even it's not even yeah that you're in a long

00:22:13.640 distance yeah good relationship you're in a long distance it's complicated relationship

00:22:19.500 you can solve it in three years you know i mean it's not that hard in person if it's complicated

00:22:25.420 yeah at least you're still kind of having sex but now yeah it's just a sexless long distance

00:22:33.580 complicated i don't know no that's just it's and you're you guys are hooking up with other people

00:22:39.240 when you're in you're off stage i just drop but he's crazy i don't know has he been the only one

00:22:45.120 that you've been intimate with the past three years no oh okay well not like if we're like

00:22:50.540 consistently yeah that it's just him but if it's like um you can see audio little nick i don't know

00:22:56.940 check what's what it's okay never mind he's 20 he's a year younger than me oh my god girl bye

00:23:01.960 i always you're wasting your youth with this shit like just get you a nice like is he no it's not

00:23:10.680 just him is he an athlete no again bye is he he's an instacarter his family kind of loaded though

00:23:19.600 and he uses her car to instacart huh oh yeah he uses my car no when he's here when he's here yeah

00:23:26.000 when he's here he uses my car to instacart and like that's a lot of gas do you get anything from

00:23:30.360 that no maybe like this is looking like a liability yeah what are you doing like he'll

00:23:35.500 buy me food and stuff to like compensate as a man you can buy your own food either way but

00:23:39.120 like bare minimum yeah bare minimum and he's sitting your parents house with you i mean my parents do

00:23:43.900 everything for him too which is crazy my parents to this day love that man they shouldn't do you

00:23:49.240 have rhino do you have a diagnosis here yeah it's actually pretty funny um i mean obviously

00:23:56.500 it's not really a real relationship but i always run like the long distance thing isn't really a

00:24:01.380 thing um but obviously i can understand having that deep emotional attachment for someone you've

00:24:07.600 been like been close to for three years so i completely understand that but like he's smashing

00:24:13.960 other girls you're smashing it's just like you might just have to let it rock and just let it go

00:24:19.980 it's on separate ways because then it's like oh he didn't see you on your birthday but then

00:24:24.440 a few maybe a month before you were smashing someone else so it's like i'm not catching a

00:24:29.460 flight for a girl getting their cheeks blacked but yeah exactly i mean but like yeah yeah y'all can

00:24:35.180 still love each other and care about each other like that's cool no 100 and like he cares like

00:24:39.720 just way too much about like stuff in ivy specifically that i like it's like the breaking point honestly

00:24:45.920 it's like all you do is like party or you're always with your friends i'm like it's college

00:24:50.860 you're a college girl that's what you should care about yeah like i'm sorry i'm not gonna just sit at

00:24:56.100 home every single day not leave like it's like i hate it i mean that's definitely another conversation

00:25:02.040 we can get into like when you're in a relationship should you be going out partying should you be going

00:25:07.040 to bars and clubs we can definitely have that convo um so was he trying just really quick on that but

00:25:14.120 we'll come back to it later so when you guys were good would he be like hey i'm not comfortable with

00:25:18.900 you like going out partying with your friends that type of yeah because you are at like a competitive

00:25:24.080 i think at a competitive advantage against him on that realm because here in san barbara ucsb

00:25:29.960 number one party school isla vista huge party scene versus north carolina yeah where are you in the

00:25:37.820 capital i'm in raleigh yeah raleigh okay so i mean there's a nightlife i guess like but he's not he's 20

00:25:43.100 right yeah so he can't really unless he has a fake id he can't really go to bars and shit we've

00:25:47.300 like never really been i've never been there big is there uh what's the unc yeah there's that what

00:25:52.440 it's called university wait no you got it unc raleigh there's unc chapel hill okay uh nc state is

00:26:00.940 also in raleigh and duke is in like is there a big party scene for those colleges yeah okay not those

00:26:06.720 colleges i think there's just too many smart people that go there uh well we'll maybe we'll come back to

00:26:11.460 that a little bit later what about you sophie um i've been single for like i think two months now

00:26:19.040 two months okay yeah why did he dump you um it was kind of a mutual thing okay we were just no it

00:26:29.460 really was but i know i'm just i'm roasting yeah okay um how long were you guys dating less than a

00:26:36.360 year less than a year what was your longest was that your longest relationship so it was nine months

00:26:41.080 ten months i don't even think i mean we were seeing each other for around that time but we

00:26:45.940 weren't like official for only i don't know i want to say like five months honestly okay got it so

00:26:52.840 it was a situationship kind of to start and then it became yeah relationship and then it became a

00:26:57.260 relationship and then we broke up um and then we got into it and we were in a monogamous relationship

00:27:05.120 and then we got into an open relationship after that so during your situationship was it monogamous

00:27:12.140 then or it was kind of open then you closed it then you opened it again yeah exactly who wanted to

00:27:17.120 open it um we were kind of just hanging out as like exes you know like friends or whatever and

00:27:23.140 um wait what do you mean like like because you said during the relationship it was monogamous

00:27:29.540 but then during the relationship you opened it up no no we broke up oh you broke up yeah but you

00:27:35.700 continued having sex um after some time yeah but because you said you opened up the relationship

00:27:44.020 but you broke up so you broke up and then we stopped talking for a little bit okay like went

00:27:49.720 no contact and then we kind of started seeing each other again and then became in an open relationship

00:27:55.340 oh so now you're wait because you said it ended two months ago but that ended too so the open

00:28:01.180 relationship ended two months ago yes have you seen him more recently yes how recently did you see

00:28:08.540 him like two weeks ago or no yesterday last night she's over here laughing wait it wasn't supposed to

00:28:17.380 happen snitch snitch on her um wait so you did you you hung out with him yesterday uh no no no not

00:28:24.080 there you go there were your friends throwing you under the bus yesterday no i didn't hang out

00:28:28.320 with him yesterday um this is a safe space yeah no we were completely no contact for over a month

00:28:35.180 and i actually bumped into him at the tattoo shop um yeah when you say we were both getting a tattoo

00:28:41.220 at the same time you say it was a it was a coincidence you didn't know that he had a tattoo

00:28:46.240 appointment if you can just straight straight into the mic um so

00:28:50.080 and that kind of reopened things up a little bit a month ago you said no this happened like three

00:28:58.400 weeks ago oh three weeks ago yeah i saw each other again and then kind of started talking

00:29:01.740 so when's the last time you talked to him like an hour ago oh like you you saw him in person or

00:29:08.980 oh no no i saw him in person like three days ago but we were briefly hanging out it wasn't okay

00:29:14.620 so okay broke up so it was monogamous you broke up but then you continued

00:29:20.640 so what's the status now uh we're broken up but we're talking so it's you're gonna maybe

00:29:28.340 no no get back into an open relationship no absolutely not but you're talking right but

00:29:34.500 just as like frank i would never go back into an open relationship again no i know i'm

00:29:38.720 do you think he wants more uh probably not no no no honestly no then wait

00:29:44.500 do you want to get back together with him um no he doesn't want to be in like a monogamous

00:29:52.200 relationship and i'm not willing to be in an open relationship with him at all well you were

00:29:56.540 for a period of time right but i ended that because i hated you were not happy with it why did you hate

00:30:00.860 it um because i was not able to um build like emotional connections with other people and he was

00:30:08.880 so i honestly just felt like i was being like i was consenting to being openly cheated on because

00:30:14.000 i wasn't really like interested in hanging out with other people and he was so okay oh so you were

00:30:18.180 not seeing other people i was but i wasn't like feeling it you know i just don't i only saw other

00:30:24.120 people because he was pretty much okay yeah i see and you knew you knew he was seeing other people

00:30:30.700 yeah okay okay but so you didn't even want to see other people but you did it because

00:30:36.960 revenge not revenge no i because i just i didn't want kind of yeah yeah you could say like if you're

00:30:43.900 gonna see other people then yeah then i'm gonna i'm not gonna it would be like embarrassing if he

00:30:48.280 was just like all these other girls and i was just like waiting around for him to okay you know

00:30:53.100 so do you think this is there's going to be a reconciliation in this relationship or it's

00:30:57.100 just done um you know we're talking and a little bit more does it not bother you that he's he's

00:31:06.320 fucked other girls like does that not bother you um well i mean i have that you fucked other girls

00:31:13.180 no other guys okay uh not like a lot but just a little bit just a little bit yeah but i mean

00:31:22.260 it it it doesn't how many tattoos does he have a lot does he do tattoos no no no okay

00:31:31.700 does he have a neck tat no face tat no does he have a tattoo on his penis no any like weird tattoos

00:31:39.040 any weird tattoos like on his butt or something yeah yeah like the octopus one that crawls out of

00:31:44.280 his butthole i want to see that wait he does no no no no wait you have a tat do you you have a uh

00:31:53.720 i thought this fell out of fashion what you have a lower back tattoo didn't right i do oh right can

00:32:00.840 we see it yeah oh my god okay because i have not seen a lower back tattoo since 2007 i don't know

00:32:08.980 where to like face oh just if you want to stand out and then uh maybe face this camera

00:32:13.740 oh and she got a booty on her oh retro god damn wait pull it down a little bit yeah we must stay

00:32:21.700 focused brothers the mic is the mic is kind of blocking it oh wait well i actually scooted that

00:32:28.560 way yeah well okay one more time all right that's that's like a that's a that's like a 90s

00:32:36.680 how old are you again i'm 20 she's retro she's retro she was born in the wrong era

00:32:43.440 yeah you should have been alive in like the britney spears

00:32:46.860 oh i wish i was i really do link 182 um what else uh my chemical romance

00:32:54.620 didn't you have one of those green escape the fate oh see that's like all the stuff i like listen to

00:32:59.600 oh wow okay yeah um you're cultured yeah because i feel like the the the equivalent

00:33:06.680 tattoo like the tramp stamp was very popular like what uh or excuse me lower back tattoo uh

00:33:13.700 i got a tramp stamp oh okay all right fine yeah was what very popular like 90s early 2000s now the

00:33:20.420 one that i think is the equivalent is the sternum yeah and it's like a chandelier thing yeah you see

00:33:26.160 yeah i know exactly you know what i mean i see that a lot yeah that is oh hey sentience sentience

00:33:31.640 donated 99 dollars all right these three hundred and fours offer vague answers for plausible

00:33:37.400 deniability and the illusion of purity they're all lying they're all single even if talking with

00:33:44.040 someone their one thousand cock stares belie their lack of morals telling all as they can't keep

00:33:50.220 their mouths slash legs closed what's a 304 it's an area code i don't know what wait to where

00:33:57.880 he is speaking in tongues i don't know what he is saying i kind of got say that again in english in

00:34:04.840 modern terms yeah we can tell me what say with your chest say with your chest oh we got another

00:34:11.960 one here denver danny donated 100 okay hey brian i saw the clip of you rejecting layla okay stay

00:34:19.560 strong i saw that you've said that you like women who initiate slash dmu so shooting my shot i'm 23

00:34:27.780 and i live in colorado can i fly you out for a date i'm short five feet and hashtag big lady

00:34:35.560 what's up mommy hashtag big lady man uh thank you yeah i guess you could just if you want dm me

00:34:41.200 personally but um i wouldn't i wouldn't fly out to colorado you'd have to come here

00:34:45.780 you're getting flown out that's like no i'm too busy to ah to be flown out you must fly out to be

00:34:54.340 flew but she has to pay for the flight out right you're not gonna yeah right yeah whatever of course

00:34:58.840 um wait okay so the there's the has there been um you said you've been single for two months

00:35:05.740 are you currently like in a talking stage with anybody right now or um i'm like casually seeing

00:35:13.960 other people but i'm not really like talking talking to anybody else what when you say casually

00:35:19.660 seeing other people what do you mean um you know safe space safe space it's just like you know

00:35:28.180 sneaky links oh you're fucking yeah yeah sneaky links nothing more than that but it's not often

00:35:33.600 okay do you just date guys just guys uh yeah okay um how many sneaky links are we talking here

00:35:40.640 um two oh i mean like julia julie sorry wait julie it's julia julia is she lying it's it's two guys

00:35:52.660 but like multiple times more than more than julia please the fifth no yeah she she's telling the

00:35:58.700 truth okay so choose two sneaky links is there any talking stage so we got two sneaky links are there

00:36:06.160 any sneaky no uh situation no no not at all okay all right okay do you have a roster like a what's

00:36:14.860 that i think that's what it's called do you have a roster where there's there's not guys like guys

00:36:19.460 that you're considering that aren't the two sneaky links for like something more than it could be

00:36:27.040 it could be adding to the sneaky links it could be maybe long term uh possibly not like a lot okay

00:36:33.560 you're currently on the dating app right should we pull up the dating app profile right okay we'll do

00:36:37.920 it really quick we're gonna do it really quick so chat sophie was so kind to provide us with her hinge

00:36:43.860 profile so whoa holy that's not the right that's not the first one but okay can you go to the first

00:36:53.000 one now the is there a first one i didn't know where that was sent oh do it well like go to the just

00:37:00.280 find the first photo no you can okay all right uh no there's a top i think there should be a top one

00:37:11.240 there's like an order to it just find the top one nope nope nope nope that's it oh this one okay

00:37:20.940 so this is sophie's this is sophie's hinge profile so chat do you swipe yes do you swipe no let us

00:37:29.300 know her most irrational fear is paper cuts she's 20 she's five two next she likes hanging out at night

00:37:36.420 on lifeguard towers for some reason i don't know what's going on there um next barista okay there

00:37:46.340 you go next to me relaxation is guitar hero yeah okay there you go are you good i'm okay it's been a

00:37:55.660 minute do you actually play guitar uh i'm not very good at actual guitar do you slap the bass

00:38:01.180 man slap the bass man okay next she geeks out on minecraft so that could be for some of you that

00:38:08.700 might be a very strong plus uh okay next and i think that's it okay um is this this is like an

00:38:18.140 older photo do you have more tattoos than this right now uh do you have the double stars on the

00:38:22.720 no but i've tattooed that oh you've tattooed that okay got it so chat do you yes no okay there you have

00:38:29.460 i don't know i would swipe right yeah yeah there you go all right what are you looking for yeah

00:38:34.280 what are you looking for right when you put photos up like that like what are you honestly i kind of

00:38:38.520 stopped going on it because i like swipe on a bunch of people but i never like respond to anybody anymore

00:38:42.500 because i just don't have the energy and i don't care enough what how long have you had hinge

00:38:46.660 um oh maybe like a year maybe like almost two years i don't know i delete it and then get it back

00:38:56.440 like it just depends on oh but like while you were in your relationship no no not at all

00:39:00.400 um but so you re-downloaded i assume after your breakup um how many if you had to guess how many

00:39:08.780 matches do you think you get in a day well i like don't um well i guess because not it's kind of

00:39:18.080 complicated you have to like right on the person on hinge so i don't know i think there's a way to

00:39:23.280 tell like how many people like it gives you like a number right it's like yeah it gives you a number

00:39:26.320 of people who like like you yeah yeah but i have to like like them back for it to be a match okay

00:39:31.940 yeah got it okay but you are you currently on it not really not really no okay when you were on it was

00:39:39.260 it just for something casual yeah no it was yeah just like yeah i mean i'd go on it when i was like

00:39:44.720 drunk or something you're you're too sneaky you're too sneaky links did you meet them from hinge or

00:39:49.740 just i met one of them on hinge one of them on hinge the other one i knew from back home gotcha

00:39:54.060 who here has been on a dating app like not currently but just at any point it's pretty much

00:40:01.760 everybody oh no never no dating apps i know she has no well we can talk about that later what

00:40:09.080 well it's not my turn yet we can talk about it or if you want to talk about it now you just

00:40:12.860 i was just asking who's been on the dating app oh yeah no but you're like you haven't

00:40:16.660 i thought you were gonna ask me why i have no no no i was just oh perfect i thought you were

00:40:21.880 no we're on a dating app but you didn't raise your hand no no no i wasn't okay we can come to that

00:40:26.140 later okay got it so those of you who have been on a dating app when you first downloaded it how

00:40:33.140 many matches do you think that you got within the first 24 hours like hundreds lots of matches

00:40:39.160 maybe i think i mean i live in vegas and you know if you're just like swiping and

00:40:44.640 probably i don't remember i had a few matches though like i mean i don't know the most i've

00:40:49.440 seen i like once was like the 99 plus but yeah yeah that's usually i feel like what a lot of girls

00:40:53.580 probably see yeah okay got it i would say not that many just because i feel like i live in isla

00:41:00.940 vista and i feel like you kind of know a lot of people that you see on dating apps so like it's not

00:41:05.560 like i'm swiping yeah that makes sense okay everyone sure all right uh julia what about you your

00:41:10.540 relationship situations yeah um well i kind of just ended a two-year relationship um and we

00:41:19.420 finally am like we're not talking anymore as of a couple days ago um okay but it's also been very

00:41:29.020 on and off for two years okay so you said it was how long was it five or what was the length of the

00:41:36.100 relationship two two years excuse me but it's been on and off for how long the whole relationship

00:41:42.000 oh the whole relationship's been on and off yeah okay and you just ended it you just ended it was

00:41:47.740 a mutual he ended it yeah i just ended it you ended it a couple days ago yeah but it's been on and off

00:41:53.020 so okay if like 90 chance you guys get back together whoops didn't mean to press that

00:41:58.520 um i think this time it's for real it's it's done yeah you sure yes have you said that before though

00:42:05.420 yeah no this time is different i've said that before yeah what did he like uh hold on the three

00:42:11.260 years oh here's sentience again he's our resident roaster with my chest stand on my principles

00:42:18.980 whereas they kneel in front there's like the company okay they are 304 i think zentine's had a

00:42:27.440 that day today definitely call in one day to roast them but for now he's it to the hospital he's a

00:42:32.580 doctor and he's an obgyn so he's oh this is who's looking at our vagina he's just he's had a rough

00:42:38.760 day he had he he had a rough day looking at pussy come on now he works there was a uh there was

00:42:48.880 actually a train accident recently and some women lost their pussies in the train accident i don't know

00:42:54.420 what happened but he's are you so so i ask he's he's being a little toxic so i ask that you guys

00:43:01.880 just you know take it with a grain of salt we love you thanks for yeah thank you thank you uh thank

00:43:08.160 you zentine it's good to see you in the chat man appreciate it like an actual train accident or

00:43:12.140 like somebody ran a train on some girls and then they like yeah amtrak oh shit i'm just kidding

00:43:18.220 about okay yeah okay so julia julia um your guy you've been you were seeing him for two years is

00:43:25.300 on again off again the entire relationship how many times was it on again off again how many times did

00:43:30.140 you guys break up i can't even count more than 10 probably more than 20 a lot yeah probably between

00:43:39.720 10 and 20 between 10 and 20 got it and more often than not who was the one who was saying we need to

00:43:47.100 take a break i'm breaking up with you him you it was always me always always you yeah it kind of felt

00:43:54.920 like i was trapped a little bit um but there was one time where it was him one time where it was him

00:44:02.140 what happened in that situation um because we we broke up and then we we were not together for a while

00:44:09.680 and he moved back home um and then once he was back home he started seeing someone else um and then

00:44:19.600 he just kind of ghosted me and i was a little confused and then i found out and then things

00:44:26.200 didn't work out with her so then he came back to me and then i was like no is this the most recent

00:44:32.920 what caused the most recent split no okay so is this a long distance relationship um we both were

00:44:41.500 living here for most of it and then he moved back home yeah is that in california or um yeah he he

00:44:49.140 actually got fired because um he was really heartbroken um and just like stopped showing up to

00:44:57.100 work so he had to move back home and like live with his parents oh god wait heartbroken over the

00:45:03.220 breakup with you yeah but i mean this you said you broke it off just a couple days ago yeah and then

00:45:09.320 we like started talking again and then we just kind of have been like it's been so confusing um so

00:45:16.420 you're oh you're currently wait hold on you said that this is the final breakup yeah but you're still

00:45:22.260 talking no we're not talking now oh as of a couple days ago you've so you've had zero communication

00:45:28.820 with him for what three four days yeah nothing yeah okay so on again off again 10 to 20 times you'd

00:45:38.780 mostly break up with him why would you generally speaking would he'd piss you off he'd get with

00:45:43.760 another girl what um he was just really jealous and um like every time i went out on the weekends

00:45:50.840 um he would have like breakdowns and yeah and i just kind of felt like i don't know i just felt

00:46:01.240 like i am in college i'm young like i need to i don't want someone holding me back from having a

00:46:08.140 bunch of experiences and opportunities this sounds a little similar to uh to her thing so we can

00:46:13.700 definitely we'll touch on that a bit later it sounds like but he lived in santa barbara too though

00:46:18.920 yeah would he so you would go out and party and he would be he wouldn't want you to yeah would he

00:46:25.880 go out and party too or he more introverted stay-at-home type um he went out with me a couple

00:46:31.680 of times and he hated it um based and so he kind of i mean he'll do things with his friends like small

00:46:39.600 parties okay and stuff like that but um he didn't like want to go to the ragers or whatever and i love

00:46:45.440 the star yeah okay i guess gotcha um okay and so that was a big conflict point in your relationship

00:46:52.200 that he didn't not he did not like that you were going out at the time and it made him uh

00:46:58.380 was he was jealous i think you said was the word or okay um how often were you going out

00:47:05.680 every weekend or yeah i'd say every weekend because like wednesday thursday friday saturday type

00:47:12.340 schedule some people party that much so more like thursday friday saturday thursday friday saturday

00:47:18.040 gotcha and you said was he also a college student did he work full-time too you said he had a job so

00:47:23.020 yeah he was working too okay gotcha is it and you do you think it was unfair that he wanted to spend

00:47:30.780 his weekends with you instead of you going out partying um i didn't mind spending the weekends with

00:47:37.320 him yeah um but he always ended up doing something low-key with his friends anyways

00:47:42.280 oh okay and i didn't really want to be a part of that so oh you didn't want to hang out with his

00:47:50.120 friend group doing their low-key hood ratchet yeah i mean i i would a lot too okay got it um

00:47:58.740 going back to you really quick yeah how frequent you you said that in your relationship your boyfriend

00:48:06.500 he had kind of issues with you going out and partying how frequently would you go out do you

00:48:11.440 go out i go out a lot i would say i go out typically like three to four nights a week yeah three four

00:48:16.540 nights so yeah wednesday what are the typical nights like some of you guys are thursday friday saturday

00:48:23.320 yeah typically i go out thursday friday saturday once in a while sometimes it's their wednesday

00:48:27.900 sometimes it's danger on a wine wednesdays or something yeah okay so three so you were going out

00:48:34.600 like three to four nights a week what what about you do you party much or um you guys are friends

00:48:39.580 right so were you guys partying together i used to not um until until you met julia yeah well until i got

00:48:46.120 out of a relationship oh okay got it yeah okay okay but yeah sure our friend works at like a little

00:48:51.980 dive bar so we're always hanging out there okay gotcha in the periods when it was on again off again

00:48:57.480 would you see other guys okay we were open the whole time oh it was an open relationship the

00:49:04.380 entire time because you wanted it because he want he wanted it both of you um we both wanted it you

00:49:11.580 both wanted it yeah really i mean it's really yeah who well it's typically in most conversations

00:49:19.040 somebody broaches a topic first right so was i mean did you guys have a early on a conversation about

00:49:26.320 that yeah um it was before we started dating um i mentioned it because i said i wasn't really like

00:49:33.120 ready for something really serious okay um and so we were like we'll just start open and then we kind

00:49:39.560 of just stayed that way how does an open relationship like work though as far as like well you know you

00:49:49.900 started open meaning you would see other people but then come back home and cuddle at night

00:49:56.220 together or or like no like like like how does that like for two years like an open relationship

00:50:01.960 like how did that work out yeah so we didn't live with each other um but i obviously like we wouldn't

00:50:10.200 hook up with each other's friends or anyone that like we felt we like i don't know and so um and we

00:50:17.320 also weren't like going out on dates or anything it was just like if we're at a party and um one of us

00:50:23.700 wants to make out with someone like something like that like never um anything serious with

00:50:29.880 anyone else gotcha okay so you never slept with anyone else when you were with him um

00:50:35.720 maybe a little bit when we were off a little bit of sex okay but not when we were on just

00:50:43.800 yeah just a tiny bit of dick yeah do you feel like if it wasn't an open relationship it would

00:50:49.500 have worked out um i think we would have definitely just for a second just to see how it feels

00:50:53.920 just a second just never i never know

00:50:56.760 so is the question no that if it wasn't an open relationship do you feel like it would have worked

00:51:03.820 out for you guys i think he would definitely be happier but i don't think i would have been

00:51:09.480 do you think you wanted an open relationship because he just wasn't the guy for you

00:51:13.800 i think i didn't know that at the time but now i do know that that was why did because he's not

00:51:19.700 the guy for you okay did at any point he want to close the relationship yeah probably the whole time

00:51:25.500 and when he suggested closing it um we that's when we broke up because i told him that that's not

00:51:32.640 what i wanted but i didn't want him to stay like miserable um if that's not what he wanted wait

00:51:38.460 question when you say that's when we broke up was it the most this most recent breakup or was it

00:51:43.640 all the first the very first breakup breakup yeah okay so he wanted to close it you didn't um

00:51:52.180 and so he would so you would end things you'd be like okay i don't want to be in a closed

00:52:00.120 relationship this is what i can offer i want to be in an open relationship um he you would break up

00:52:07.280 with him and then he would be like okay and then he would miss you and then ask to get back with you

00:52:13.180 and then would he accept he would get back with you i assume and be like i guess i'm okay with the

00:52:21.320 open relationship and then a month later he'd be like i'm not okay with the open relationship

00:52:26.600 can we close it and yet would you end it again yeah it was definitely like that for sure so for the

00:52:32.820 entire time were you pretty clear you you were clear with your intentions about hey i like you

00:52:40.340 we can hang out but i want to keep the relationship open so there's never a point where you were not

00:52:45.400 like you were deceptive in any way you were clear like hey i want this to be an open relationship

00:52:50.960 yeah and i that's why i ended things a lot because i could tell he was uncomfortable and he was just like

00:52:56.220 lying to me um because obviously if he's having breakdowns every weekend um there's something

00:53:04.020 wrong why why would you keep getting back with him um i don't know i think it was really comforting

00:53:11.000 and we we got along really well um okay minus the constant emotional breakdowns on the weekends while

00:53:19.180 you were out partying yeah okay yeah i mean i i actually was in a similar situation a long time

00:53:26.200 ago where although the rules were reversed i was i told the girl pretty early up front i said hey i'm

00:53:32.680 don't want to commit to you i like spending time with you hanging out with you but i don't see this

00:53:36.860 being like a ever committed relationship and she would accept it but then she would constantly be

00:53:45.300 upset with the situation she she obviously wanted it to be closed but she it was more preferable for

00:53:52.140 her to just continue being able to see me than just not having me in her life i guess yeah but so it's

00:53:57.900 just always a constant source of conflict even though i was always open with her and i said hey here's

00:54:03.480 what i'm not looking for anything serious and she would rather have been with me than

00:54:08.300 not have been with me and but it was always a source of conflict and she'd constantly start

00:54:14.040 arguments and shit even though i was always it wasn't i wasn't cheating on her i was just like

00:54:18.740 here's what so i kind of empathize a little bit with your situation and she would always say i'm

00:54:25.040 okay with the situation and then two weeks later get all butt hurt about said situation which she

00:54:30.460 accepted so yeah i also understand her point of view too i feel like who which girl's point of view

00:54:35.980 um the girl that you were talking to what do you mean because i feel like we've all been there where we

00:54:40.900 we do kind of hope that maybe they'll change their mind um so i do get that for sure okay

00:54:49.960 but that's the situation that your boyfriend or ex-boyfriend is in okay got it okay

00:54:57.900 i mean the the solution to these people is to just not

00:55:03.300 continue going back to exactly because you tried to break up with she was very persistent in my

00:55:11.300 defense she would like i'd break up with her be like okay you're clearly upset with the situation

00:55:15.800 let's stop and then she long story okay never mind um what about you so i'm married we just celebrated

00:55:24.500 our three-year anniversary last month um we've been together for five years yeah five years okay

00:55:33.380 five years married for three married for three yeah all right is i assume this is your longest

00:55:38.400 relationship um it just surpassed me my longest yeah because when i was with my ex we were together

00:55:45.520 for about five years as well yeah okay so uh how did you guys meet me and my husband yeah we met in

00:55:54.460 la actually out of all places um i used to be a product specialist for kia and he's a professional

00:56:00.380 driver so i was you know doing registration being a product specialist he's a professional driver

00:56:06.340 testing out the cars and we went on tour for like four months yeah for like four days a week and

00:56:15.040 then we kind of just were like oh hi you're cute we hated each other the first weekend and then he

00:56:21.160 asked me on a date and i was like oh shit oh shit yeah okay got it yeah okay what about you um i

00:56:29.320 have been like technically single no it's i've been single for technically a year and a half now i

00:56:38.900 technically my ex-boyfriend like my actual ex-boyfriend like he cheated on me like really bad and made me a

00:56:44.960 little bit like psycho um but i've had like this on and off situation ship slash like i have no

00:56:51.700 idea what to call it it's been long distance or it was um and he lived in orange county and i lived

00:56:58.340 in california or northern california and we did like long distance almost and his hometown was my

00:57:04.620 hometown where i lived so we would like visit and i just wasn't ready after like getting cheated on to

00:57:09.320 like go on fully date him so we ended then we kind of like picked back up in the summer and we he lives

00:57:15.740 with two girls now his two roommates are two girls at asu so it just didn't really work out considering

00:57:20.700 like the circumstances he goes to asu yeah the biggest party school is that why you're going to

00:57:25.480 be transferring that aren't you no i was already planning on that it just so happened that that was

00:57:29.260 always in our plan i see okay wait so you said you're you've been technically single for 1.5 years

00:57:36.600 yeah something like that but like when i'm with him like i'm like very like committed to him like

00:57:41.480 you won't catch me like talking to anyone else like even though it's like not in the legal terms

00:57:44.880 of like a situation ship like my eyes are not on anyone else like when i'm with him so or when i was

00:57:50.600 and wait so and you were in a relationship for two years you said it was like a year and two months

00:57:56.380 three months okay yeah and wait was it on again off again no it was like a full like consistent

00:58:01.480 relationship okay got it but it ended 1.5 years ago yeah something like that the timelines are all

00:58:07.500 kind of blurry time goes fast but yeah so technically single for 1.5 years technically yes but you're still

00:58:13.980 kind of interested in him or no oh no okay um and then we left that so but for 1.5 years i mean have

00:58:22.280 you had any situationships guys you've been talking to just it's been like him and then like

00:58:27.160 of course i've met a few along the way like in between us being on and off but like nothing ever

00:58:32.380 like serious hold on i'm a little confused you said it's not it wasn't on and off but it is on and

00:58:38.360 off no okay my is there a different guy are there two different guys you're confused it's two different

00:58:44.260 guys so i dated this guy like a year and a half ago right yeah um like consecutively like i dated

00:58:50.740 him like our total relationship he's done he's a cheater he cheated on me like 13 year olds weird

00:58:55.880 anyways yikes yes and the girls are all amazing they're about to graduate high school this year so

00:59:03.680 just to be clear though let's just get a clarification um what you said because you're 19 you dated him a

00:59:12.940 year and a half ago yeah so i was a senior in high school so he was so he was a senior in high school

00:59:16.600 as well he was 18 uh he was pushing he was 17 and a half so it's not technically illegal dating it's

00:59:23.340 just weird okay he was just junior high school just sexting them oh oh that's even worse almost

00:59:29.760 yes that's a yikes yes and it didn't he got his karma he got his karma yeah okay he got jail time

00:59:38.940 no okay he got his karma but it's okay that's the old guy yeah you said there's a new guy there's a

00:59:45.740 new guy following that breakup like this guy who's like kind of like always been around i actually met

00:59:50.860 him on discord i was like on some like guy's discord like discord okay i was like wearing his like

00:59:57.540 headset and like all of a sudden this like guy came through and we just like sharing snapchats and

01:00:00.940 then we started talking and then like we stopped talking i got a boyfriend that was the cheating

01:00:05.000 boyfriend and then after the relationship he found out i was single so okay he like kind of like slid

01:00:09.640 back in um and we had that little like fling but obviously after getting cheated on and just being

01:00:15.420 kind of like uh-uh i was just like not ready for that okay dating so it just did not work out and then

01:00:21.740 this summer uh we went back to like what we had and then he was transferring out from orange coast

01:00:28.920 college which is the college that he went to nearby here and he went to asu and he lives with two girls

01:00:34.580 and at asu discord guy yeah discord guy yeah sorry so you're still kind of talking to him

01:00:42.600 you guys you guys met in person right yeah oh yeah we like used to travel to each other like i was

01:00:47.760 just there like a few months ago like before we tragically but you were never in a relationship

01:00:51.880 with him official not official right how long were you like romantically involved first time was like

01:00:57.420 six months and then the second time first time what like after me and my ex broke up the one that

01:01:01.980 was a cheater with the younger girls yeah um first time what though you guys linked up yeah first

01:01:08.700 time we like had our talking stage was like six months long and that was like a brutally long

01:01:12.500 talking stage so that ended and then um second time it was just like from may of this year to

01:01:20.500 august like once i moved here it just kind of fell so technically single 1.5 years you were involved

01:01:27.520 for a brief period with discord man yeah um have you seen any other guys um not since discord man

01:01:35.800 like since our second round but like a sneaky link a fling anything like that um your friend's throwing

01:01:41.220 you under the bus here by the way oh not recently like since i've been in santa barbara no but um

01:01:45.580 in the 1.5 you're technically single period yes yes yes what are we what are we talking about

01:01:50.340 like like five sneaky links no no no two sneaky links some friends three sneaky like a few friends

01:01:56.360 yeah three three to four sneaky what do you mean friends friends mean uh like i like tried to like

01:02:02.540 get to know other guys but they just what about my mind what about right now zero nothing i'm so

01:02:08.340 celibate yeah you're celibate yes and i'm stuck stuck yes what what do you mean uh like just like

01:02:15.720 trying to move on there's not one guy in the picture right now nothing literally my roster is

01:02:20.260 clean roster is clean like actually the roster is you opened up yeah if i opened up what my snapchat

01:02:26.340 you would see he is literally the only guy i talked to who which guy discord man discord man you're

01:02:31.920 still talking to him wait wait no like snap oh if i opened your snap yeah okay the kids are

01:02:37.800 wait so you're celibate oh my god you're celibate yeah when's the last time she only communicates on

01:02:43.680 snapchat okay you claim to be celibate no i actually know for what like two weeks me and him have not

01:02:51.060 been together since august and there's not been another guy that's sneaky link so what two months

01:02:59.040 two month celibacy period you're friends right you guys are friends right yeah we're roommates oh you're

01:03:06.980 roommates yeah okay have i brought a guy over since moving back here thank you but has she

01:03:13.040 got home a little late a couple nights you know actually not this semester not this semester last

01:03:20.860 semester is a different question for about the cap all right okay um what about you um i am currently

01:03:27.940 single i've been single for probably like two years and my longest relationship was a five-year

01:03:35.060 relationship single for you said single for two years longest relationship five-year relationship

01:03:39.020 that's like a high school relationship yeah i was like high school going in because i went to

01:03:43.240 community college for two years so it was like high school going into community college okay um so

01:03:49.800 you've been single for two years but have you had in that two-year period a little situationship

01:03:56.240 um like when we first like ended things like i i spoke to a couple people but nothing was ever

01:04:04.440 like serious um and yeah what about right now um i've been a couple sneaky links no sneaky links i

01:04:15.260 haven't i've been like speaking to someone for a little while um it's been actually like a few couple

01:04:23.220 months but i haven't been with like i'm not like i don't go around like doing other things so i've

01:04:29.280 only been speaking to one person probably since like january okay what about you i am single for a

01:04:38.000 couple months but my longest relationship was like two years two years okay i've been single for a

01:04:44.160 couple months do you currently is there somebody you're currently talking to now situationship

01:04:48.680 talking stage or just nunnery i kind of just got out of a talking stage recently like a couple days

01:04:56.860 ago a couple days ago um yeah we like dated for a little bit and then we broke up and then when i

01:05:02.600 got back we talked for a little bit and then we stopped talking okay uh let me uh uh ryan what about

01:05:12.140 you i had a let's see i had like a two-year relationship and that ended at the beginning

01:05:18.940 of this year so i've been just kind of lost in the sauce for the last how many months is it

01:05:24.820 hold this whole year basically i've just been in the mix 2023 yeah it's a mess yeah okay got it got

01:05:33.180 it let me get a couple oh okay let me see here uh first thing i need to do hold on we had a couple

01:05:40.240 chats here from that was submitted before the show uh hold on klaus von goate donated 207 dollars

01:05:50.400 thank you ryan thank you wanted to thank you for saving me the other weekend on the boat fishing

01:05:55.320 i had no idea i had hooked a great white as it pulled me into the ocean if you hadn't acted with

01:06:01.360 such speed and raw strength to pull me out of the water i'd be dead that's right we were we were on a

01:06:07.980 fishing expedition and this is uh normally i don't know if you normally don't send it from this

01:06:13.840 username but uh yeah i saved him i saved him we were on a canoe it's a complex it's a long story okay

01:06:22.280 thank you man appreciate it um let's see here uh okay i had a couple notes i want to wait until

01:06:30.580 she's back to get into this um i don't know what she i think she went to pee okay um i have a question

01:06:38.180 for you while we wait for her to get back um so you you do feminist studies have you found that

01:06:44.860 it's that men are scared off by your course of study for sure i think it's like we only have like

01:06:54.900 i've only seen a smaller percentage of men in my major but i think the way that it is labeled is

01:07:02.720 like more towards women just the study of women so obviously a lot of men aren't that interested in

01:07:11.780 that so it makes sense okay got it um okay

01:07:17.340 we'll come back we'll come back to that i'll just get to my notes here hold on one sec let's see

01:07:23.720 we have i need to trigger this one too oh god okay klaus von goet donated 207 dollars

01:07:32.480 to the single ladies on the panel who would date brian why or why not and brian would you reciprocate

01:07:39.700 if not why i don't know why he's he's trying to find you a wife i mean maybe we should wait until

01:07:51.140 after you hear all my hot takes um before we get into whether you would well okay maybe we'll do

01:07:57.580 it before and after yeah it's like that that would be interesting um bro you're you guys don't have to

01:08:04.360 answer this but if okay fuck it whatever um how many of you would pay for me on a first aid and take

01:08:12.120 me on a first aid paid for you yeah because like i'm i kind of need to be wined and dined you know

01:08:17.580 like there's a woman that'll do that like chivalry but it's not gonna be me like don't you guys believe

01:08:22.480 in chivalry anymore like hello like you gotta wine and you gotta wine and dine me um okay do we go

01:08:28.620 fuck it's a chat um would you date me it's so i swear i did not send this shit in pico steins

01:08:38.840 bro why do you gotta okay just it's okay you can reject me if you want i don't care go ahead

01:08:43.460 if you're a traditional man you're paying for the first day like i was kind of memeing with

01:08:47.440 a little bit you know like i you don't have to pay for the first day i mean it'd be dope if you did

01:08:52.940 but but i would but whether whether or not i'd pay for the first date that's another that's what

01:08:58.660 that's yeah that's if you asked me out like and you wanted to take me out yeah i probably would

01:09:02.920 yeah you're a cute guy brain's got ambition yeah with his eyes beautiful okay what about you

01:09:09.880 i mean kind of like hopping off of what she said like oh whoa okay no no like wait until you

01:09:16.920 no no you gotta like dinner not paying no offense you know you just gotta riz and then i would say i'd

01:09:25.940 have to riz yeah have i have i demonstrated riz no yet zero riz so far no but i can redeem

01:09:32.440 with riz yeah yeah there's been zero riz yeah okay okay all right yeah okay all right i can turn

01:09:39.960 the riz on i'll turn i'll riz i can riz uh sophie what about you come on probably not rip

01:09:47.220 r.i.p's in the chapel why not enough tattoos he's not like grungy enough for you yes what do you

01:09:52.780 mean i wear flammels he showers too much yeah i shower too much yeah what what what if i have

01:09:58.380 i know what kind of guy she's into for sure if if i had a lower back tattoo would that change

01:10:03.340 that wouldn't do for you what if it was a dolphin jumping over a lotus flower would you be kind of

01:10:10.460 into that possibly okay probably not though i do have a tramp stamp it was a mistake in my

01:10:16.760 younger years when i was proof that's not real can we see it yeah show us yeah no you gotta pay

01:10:24.440 for that um chat pay for i showed my someone somebody send somebody send money so we can see

01:10:30.380 it please yes please if he was like a convicted felon like would you maybe like oh maybe like

01:10:36.040 no i'm not really into no no into bad boys um it's a not really honestly i just i have such like a

01:10:44.960 weird specific type we could we could also go around the table after this like what is everybody's

01:10:49.640 type i think that's interesting um but since you're on the topic what's your type um i usually do go for

01:10:57.100 guys that are tattooed not always but um most of the time um i mean like right off the bat like if

01:11:06.300 i see somebody you know but and previously i've definitely gone for guys who should probably have

01:11:13.760 treated me better i like i always go for like the douchier guys like i gotta stop doing that i'm trying

01:11:18.960 to stray from that now and go for guys that are like i want someone to be like obsessed with me

01:11:23.980 like i i feel like i want like a sim oh no kind of not like but like in moderation no but like

01:11:31.240 that's but like but because i've always say that you say that i've never had a guy like like take me

01:11:35.680 out all the time and like pay for me and like just like not it's not just the like money or anything

01:11:41.740 but i'm just saying like i my first like boyfriend you like douchebags we get it yeah but my yeah he

01:11:48.080 my first boyfriend like barely wanted to like be seen with me and that's why you liked him right

01:11:51.780 you like that i just like you you like them to treat you like shit because when it's like

01:11:58.760 because when they treat me right it feels like a reward oh god wait what a dog what do you mean

01:12:03.900 oh you're saying no but i don't it's like it's not it's like beauty and the beast i don't like

01:12:09.000 mean to it's beauty and the beast the beast but he's fallen in love with you but i'm changing that

01:12:14.580 because now i like love myself i've like do you yeah i i really i don't i i totally have been

01:12:21.320 straying from that okay gotcha okay i'm i'm completely new mindset that's beautiful yeah it's great

01:12:27.360 it's great okay cool uh what about you would i date you um i think you're not in my age range

01:12:37.140 okay girl how old are you brian 34 okay i'm an old man yeah it's fine yeah i think for a 21 year

01:12:47.340 old i mean i don't know would you be interested in a 21 year old i mean i'm not like hanging out

01:12:52.160 at college parties trying to pick up like 21 year old girls but what like if a 21 year old if i match

01:12:58.380 with a 21 year old on a dating app or someone dm'd me or something like yeah date them assuming we

01:13:04.880 matched up on other things you know but uh the fact that you party three to four nights a week

01:13:10.320 that's probably a deal breaker though so in different age my age is a problem your alcoholism

01:13:16.840 is a problem it's all good it's okay we're at different life stages go ahead well you're married

01:13:23.420 so if i was not married i would date you i would pursue you i would i like the style the hair is really

01:13:29.520 nice um beard all right let me look at that actually brian kind of looks like your husband

01:13:34.480 yeah you resemble my husband i look like your husband you don't look like my husband but you

01:13:40.500 resemble him in the fact that like the eyes you have a little bit piercing like dictator eyes like

01:13:46.600 the dark he has dark kind of grayish bluish eyes where you're not sure if he's a psychopath

01:13:52.200 or if he just has beautiful eyes that kind of they're green so it's even more like it's more

01:13:57.300 intense he's got really intense eyes okay they're beautiful dope that's cool okay also we just is he

01:14:03.620 also pale like really pale yes he has a little bit of redness to his cheeks too okay and he does his

01:14:08.960 hair like yeah okay okay all right okay love you honey maybe we're related um what about you not you and

01:14:16.680 me yeah no i think you're closer in age to my dad than me therefore i probably would not date you

01:14:23.360 and you have facial hair available i have facial hair no my dad is married to my mom okay i was

01:14:28.460 trying to shoot my shot nope okay um facial hair gotta go facial hair not a fan not a fan not a fan

01:14:37.440 okay you like do you like clean shave yeah like just totally yeah naked face okay all right what about

01:14:45.480 yeah okay um i personally would not totally fine i personally would not either ditto just visually

01:14:56.560 like he's just not your type um the age and i don't think we would vibe that well there's no vibe

01:15:03.380 zero there's zero vibe yeah i mean i would i would not date a feminist so that's a major deal breaker

01:15:10.680 um feminist studies that season what do you plan to do with feminist like a feminist studies degree

01:15:16.440 she's going to be a professional grievance person perfect or she uh right i'm a professional victim

01:15:22.880 sorry sorry sorry right isn't that what you can do with a feminist degree study i'm a i'm i'm going

01:15:28.780 i'm planning to go to law school okay oh yeah i'm on that track okay so are these just like extra

01:15:36.160 classes like i remember in college like i'm like yo i'm doing everything i can't just like you know

01:15:40.200 get my degree is this just like nick camera is it going towards your like law degree or exposure

01:15:46.660 yeah you can technically major in anything you go to law school okay gotcha gotcha so it's just a

01:15:52.440 different perspective yeah okay all right there you have it folks i don't know why you didn't ask him

01:15:57.760 oh well i think that was to the ladies to this oh no it's to the single ladies on the panel would

01:16:03.300 you date brown and i was supposed to would i reciprocate i don't know if i do let your sister date him

01:16:07.240 yeah i don't um i like you a lot you're a cool dude oh no so then again i maybe i haven't seen

01:16:18.200 your behavior outside of here so i don't know if i could if i had like a younger sister he can't he

01:16:23.820 doesn't know me well enough to to he hasn't vetted me properly so based on what i've seen though i am a

01:16:29.220 stand-up guy according to ryan over here yeah just he doesn't know me yet enough so um okay let's see

01:16:35.420 we had uh and then this one came in but i didn't trigger uh seven deadly simps donated one hundred

01:16:41.800 dollars thank you dude thank you do any of you consider yourselves feminists we'll go around the

01:16:45.760 table on that if so why also seven hundred and seventy seven decillion seven hundred and seventy seven

01:16:52.400 no million seven hundred and seven billion seven hundred and seventy seven septillion seven hundred and

01:16:59.580 seventy seven seven seven hundred and seventy seven thousand seven hundred and seventy seven

01:17:16.760 thank you thank you seven deadly simps appreciate it um go ahead um i wouldn't consider myself

01:17:21.860 like a manosphere's feminist um i think that kind of has like a negative term to it but i think women

01:17:28.300 you know should be kind of treated as equal in some cases but i do consider myself more red pill for

01:17:34.200 sure i don't consider myself her kind of feminist no okay what about you yeah i mean i guess i would

01:17:42.040 say to like some extent i don't know i just think people like to take it a little too far sometimes and i

01:17:46.080 feel like sometimes it's just like i don't know i love women and go women and women are all beautiful

01:17:51.760 but i don't know sometimes it just turns into too much of like an argument too much of a what like

01:17:57.260 an argument argument okay but i would say i'm in the middle okay i'm with her i'm with both of them

01:18:03.200 uh yeah i i kind of like agree so like fall into that category i guess you kind of like kind of in

01:18:11.000 the middle sort of feminist okay yeah i feel like everyone has a different definition of feminism

01:18:17.340 um i would say i am a feminist according to mine okay i don't think so i'm definitely not a feminist

01:18:26.520 um women are beautiful i love women we are powerful creatures but not for me okay um i honestly don't

01:18:35.180 think i'm educated enough on feminism to have a valid opinion i agree with you that's totally fair

01:18:40.360 i would actually agree with her as well okay i would say i'm a feminist but i feel like there's

01:18:47.960 a big misconception of it as in like go women it's all about women but i feel like i'm an effect i'm a

01:18:54.560 feminist in a way that's like there's certain issues that both men and women are facing that it's like

01:19:00.620 it's important to like work through that that's the whole point of feminism in my definition but i can

01:19:05.480 see how like now i think it's a really misconstrued like definition and label so i that makes sense in

01:19:12.000 what way is it misconstrued i think it's like misconstrued in the way that it's like women

01:19:18.920 deserve like or not women deserve but like it's all about women when it's not there's like other

01:19:26.480 issues that men also face men also have like issues with their mental health that's like

01:19:31.660 really affecting younger growing men now like there's like issues with like being emotional

01:19:38.960 and being vulnerable and things like that that i think a lot of people look past and kind of think

01:19:44.220 that men don't have issues as well as women does so okay we can touch on the vulnerable thing later

01:19:50.460 um do you but tip my understanding of feminism and feminist studies is you view men's issues through

01:20:01.080 the patriarchy is that correct so there's a patriarchy and that patriarchy patriarchy

01:20:08.740 negatively impacts women but it also negatively impacts men is that a fair assessment yes okay

01:20:15.300 so but you do view view things through the lens of patriarchy theory um i definitely think it's

01:20:23.280 different in this day and age than it was years ago but it's not what they teach i thought i mean

01:20:27.960 my understanding is patriarchy theory is a pretty central ten in the feminism yeah i just think it's

01:20:33.540 the way that you view it you could see it as it like men are like completely like in rule and like

01:20:40.200 oppressing women and i think it's it's a big deep topic i think okay got it uh right now do you

01:20:48.960 consider yourself a feminist i don't think so i'd have to look at the definition of it but i don't

01:20:53.260 think i am a feminist shifting and yeah it depends on who you talk to and if it's about like men and

01:20:58.880 women are equal then great i'm a feminist but is it though no is it though i don't think it's turned

01:21:04.120 into something far more than that has it ever been about that not really i think that's like the label

01:21:11.220 they want to give it but i don't think it's that word okay cool i think we're all cut up on chats

01:21:16.740 here actually we have one uh austin smith we live in the land of daddy issues we live in the land

01:21:23.840 anybody here have daddy issues show of hands any daddy issues at the table any daddy issues julia

01:21:31.400 daddy any dad i'm not i'm not saying you do i'm just asking okay what what daddy issues

01:21:38.600 what are the daddy daddy he wasn't there he i think there's still some women who have daddy issues

01:21:46.300 and have present fathers yeah so like what yeah what daddy issues are you talking about oh and then

01:21:51.020 so could you read this one really quick yo anisa let me take you to dinner let's fall in love you

01:21:55.140 quit only fans and i'll take care of you okay what's up do you do you accept his offer um where are you

01:22:02.280 taking me where are we gonna go yeah jack probably not did you read his name by the way did you read

01:22:07.440 his name no here i'll pull it up again can you read his name that's clever thank you man thank you

01:22:14.820 jack m appreciate it um hey the only fans babe and then we jack mihoff mihoff he's uh he's asking

01:22:22.200 or she was asking where would you take her yeah where and what's your definition

01:22:26.560 of taking care of a woman yeah that that's what i want to know because i think to some people you

01:22:31.720 know like occasionally talking to her that's not like once a week for 10 minutes i think that's

01:22:40.800 like the extent of the emotion no no no no all right um nick were you able to fix the twitch tab

01:22:48.740 can you you did you fix it or oh perfect guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow

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01:23:19.020 appreciate it you're awesome dude thank you guys thank you twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow

01:23:22.980 oh zen thank you for the prime man appreciate it all right so some of you were so kind to send some

01:23:27.840 pre-show notes to us so what i'm gonna do and once okay i'll get into that so we had uh ellie

01:23:36.640 you said you had a very weird story uh the mormon restraining order can you tell us that story

01:23:43.860 yeah um when i was in high school i was dating this guy for a very long time this was in north carolina

01:23:51.280 so i was dating this guy for i think like at this point may have been we were dating for like a

01:23:55.860 year everything seemed normal it was totally fine he was like the first guy like i think i can say

01:24:01.080 like i really genuinely like cared about so i was like really like involved with him and stuff and

01:24:07.880 then like it just got really rough he wanted to propose and he bought a ring and i was like 17

01:24:14.620 so i was like i don't know i was kind of just so brainwashed by him i was like kind of like

01:24:19.480 weirdly okay with it with what getting married yeah for some reason i was like what do you mean

01:24:24.080 brainwashed how were you brainwashed he like i mean i don't know if it was like his like him or his

01:24:29.920 family or whatever but i would just like act like him and he was like kind of rude so like you would

01:24:35.360 act like him yeah i would just kind of or like act like the person he might have wanted me to be

01:24:39.560 so like kind of just doing whatever he says and just following along with him just so that like

01:24:44.620 i don't know i had real big attachment issues with this man like really big attachment issues

01:24:49.580 i mean but isn't that pretty normal like you if you hang out with someone long enough you start to

01:24:53.800 kind of maybe copy some of their mannerisms or certain um okay so so yeah he uh he tried to do that

01:25:05.140 and then my parents found out and when my parents found out they were like nah you got to get out of

01:25:09.920 here like bye so i left home and i dipped it was like this whole big fight with my parents like

01:25:17.240 huge like massive like fight like my friend showed up it got like physical like it was bad so and then

01:25:24.800 after that i just lived with him i was like you know what like whatever i'm just gonna like live with

01:25:29.720 him and his family so i lived with his family for a few months and we were still set on like

01:25:34.800 getting married and all that and that whole thing and then i don't know one day i was just like no

01:25:39.360 this is like something is not right here and i ended it with him and then he got like really like

01:25:45.900 upset about it and he like would like show up at my house and like it'd be just really weird getting

01:25:51.840 weird texts weird calls he called the cops on me one time like i was just in a parking lot with my

01:25:57.340 friend i think like we were getting ready to like leave we were eating and he called the cops on me

01:26:00.980 for like good times i know i was sitting there like 17 like shitting my pants i was just like

01:26:07.740 why are there like cops here and they're like oh we got like a call about you being worried you shit

01:26:11.980 your pants almost how old was this man he was he's like two months younger than me so at the time he

01:26:18.900 was she's a cougar he was not a man he was a boy okay she likes the younger guys maybe he was a boy

01:26:24.740 he was not a man he was a boy not a man so tell i need to get up here for a sec um but tell us about

01:26:30.440 how the restraining order came along oh yeah so like that was just it was a lot like what happened

01:26:39.380 with the restraining order was like once i kind of you know like came to my uh senses i um moved back

01:26:46.060 home with my parents it was like this whole big like rekindling they sold my car while i was gone

01:26:50.620 which kind of sucked but like other than that my parents were like okay look it's over block him

01:26:55.560 don't do anything and then my parents were like you should get a restraining order against him

01:26:59.080 because he kept doing all that like weird shit showing up in like random places and just being

01:27:02.560 weird so i did and i went to court and i show up at like the court and he has a dui attorney as his

01:27:08.600 attorney which i was like what are you doing like what are what are you trying to get out of this right

01:27:13.200 now and so this dui attorney comes up to me and is like talking to me and he was just like

01:27:18.640 so like what is your side of the story i'm just like wondering like what are you gonna bring out

01:27:23.300 in the court like do you have any like receipts on anything and i was just like well like duh this

01:27:27.780 is like a court case i didn't have a lawyer because i was like this is a restraining order

01:27:30.640 this is stupid and then he was like he had like a folder like filled like this thick of like a

01:27:37.160 manila folder filled with random like text like emails whatever videos like it was crazy i did win

01:27:44.880 you know so so you guys have a restraining order yeah and i haven't seen or talked to him since

01:27:49.040 and i've never like even ran into him or anything thank god hate that man but yeah i guess that's

01:27:56.900 crazy that was a weird time in my life i was all under 18 and then i moved here and you said modern

01:28:04.980 dating is crazy because there's so many different types nowadays and even like people from high school

01:28:10.160 it's a good impression right yeah have families at least from north carolina like idk how fast is too

01:28:20.920 fast yeah sorry so like in the south you know a lot of people

01:28:27.540 the way she said it in the south in the south y'all like so like people there are like a little

01:28:36.060 unhinged i'm not even gonna lie are they why yeah they just they're so redneck like redneck

01:28:41.240 yeah were you a redneck at one point don't talk poorly about your own people i don't know if they

01:28:46.580 want me anymore you're disowned pretty much by the rednecks i mean if you don't own like a

01:28:50.980 confederate flag or a gun then you're just disowned like they're not very nice people okay but um

01:28:58.260 what was it yeah it was just so the south is just i think what you're getting at though is like

01:29:04.060 where you used to live people would get married oh yeah really young start families very young

01:29:10.060 yeah one of my friends one of my like really good high school friends like i love her to death she

01:29:14.300 just got proposed and i was like wow like they're like most of the people i do know are younger than

01:29:20.040 me in my grade just because i'm older for my grade but like one of them or no one two three six of them

01:29:27.360 have had babies in the past two years three of my friends have gotten married and one of them has

01:29:33.340 twins like actually like they're all like and they're all like not even 21 yet by the way like

01:29:38.540 they're not even like they're full-on married have big weddings like but it's crazy it's just like

01:29:44.400 as the only married person here do you want to have kids pretty soon or because you're what 27 i'm 27

01:29:49.840 yeah is that in the works kids or um at the moment no um i feel like maybe within the next five

01:29:56.480 years possibly uh we talk about it we want to have kids but both him and i want to do a lot more with

01:30:03.220 our lives and our careers before bringing children into the picture okay um we want to travel a lot

01:30:09.020 more i'm from brazil so i'm still in the process of getting my green card and it's like we want to see

01:30:14.980 the world and we always talk about like maybe we don't want to raise our kids in america maybe we

01:30:20.160 want to go somewhere else and have children where honestly like anywhere that's secluded in a way

01:30:28.600 secluded like why why just curious why wouldn't you want to raise your kids here yes we do have

01:30:34.560 amazing schooling yes we have great opportunities but the way that society is going nowadays are you

01:30:42.160 talking about the woke shit yeah yes go on i just i i don't know it's like our families both of our

01:30:51.100 families are we're traditional his family is very christian very traditional my family guests were a

01:30:57.100 little bit more conservative i would say conservative my mom is very involved in the church my dad not so

01:31:04.360 much but like the church the catholic are you talking catholic well catholic yeah yeah under under the

01:31:10.300 branch of christianity got it okay um my parents aren't pushing me to have kids his parents aren't

01:31:16.000 pushing me to have kids they know that we want to live our lives a little bit more but i see it with

01:31:20.660 my uncle and his daughters that i'm like wow like i don't i don't know if i want my kids to in a way

01:31:27.160 grow up like this and go to school and i don't know it's just sure okay i'm 27 what like when i was

01:31:36.560 10 years old like people are already on tiktok doing these like little dances and shit you know

01:31:43.060 and yeah it's a little sketchy to me like you're still a child like exposing yourself online yeah i

01:31:49.760 see what you mean so it just it's different but yes the woke movement as well well going around the

01:31:54.280 table here i want to ask everybody do you want to get married do you want to have kids uh and when

01:31:59.320 do you see yourself getting married and having kids yeah or when when would you like to be i guess

01:32:05.840 uh within the next five years i think so marriage and kids yeah okay what about you definitely want

01:32:11.380 to get married i don't know when i guess like which whenever it happens but probably by the time i'm

01:32:15.940 like hopefully like 40 i'm sure by the time you're 40 i mean like that's like the cutoff on getting

01:32:20.940 married if i don't find anybody at that point then it's just game over to the nunnery you go yeah

01:32:24.640 literally like bye that's it okay and you want kids yeah okay what about what about you um i

01:32:30.300 definitely want to get married um hopefully by like 35 at the latest okay i mean maybe later i don't

01:32:39.000 know um kids is a maybe i don't know it depends on where i am in life and how i feel about it but

01:32:47.080 i'm not sure you're on the fence yeah okay got it yeah i feel like as of right now i don't know i

01:32:53.440 think that's for future me to decide yeah um but i do want kids at some point okay and i'm assuming

01:33:01.260 marriage too uh what about you um yeah i do want to get married um maybe like a couple years after

01:33:08.280 college and i want like three to four kids or honestly as many as possible okay um yeah i definitely

01:33:15.720 want to get married and have kids um i definitely want to do a lot of things for myself and for my

01:33:21.380 life first sure so probably around like 28 29 yeah i want to get married and have kids by like

01:33:29.420 married by like 27 got it right now what about you yeah i would definitely want to have a family

01:33:35.760 married everything and maybe i'm 26 now so i would like to be a bit of an older dad i don't think i'm

01:33:42.420 ready for kids just yet so maybe early 30s mid 30s like 34 i might want to knock someone up

01:33:49.280 okay and kind of related to the marriage question starting with you over here um when you do get

01:33:57.160 married are you going to take your husband's last name or are you going to hyphenate um i'll probably

01:34:03.000 take my husband's last name it's not very feminist of you but uh okay um i will take my husband's last

01:34:10.860 name yeah i would definitely take my husband's last name i took you took yeah but i mean my maiden name

01:34:16.940 is my middle name sure okay yeah um it depends if i like their last name if you like their last name

01:34:23.280 yeah okay what's your last name mccorkwadale so it would be kind of nice to have it

01:34:31.940 could you say that one more time mccorkadale yeah mccorkadale mccorkwadale mccorkwadale

01:34:41.460 yes okay um so i maybe you should probably take your husband's last name just throwing that out

01:34:49.140 there okay um i'm sorry that was kind of mean but yeah go ahead i was gonna say the exact same thing

01:34:55.600 as her i mean if it's like if he's got like a dope last name if it's cool yeah i mean are you

01:35:00.860 just be honest you want to hyphenate don't you no i i would be open to yeah i don't need like my last

01:35:06.040 name but if the dude has like a weird last name then probably not so the last name if it's weird

01:35:11.560 no go i mean if it's just like a normal last name sure okay yeah if it's like a dog shit last name

01:35:16.980 i haven't taken that uh-uh if it's like sorry you're like a family you're gonna become a family

01:35:22.080 like a unit like you wouldn't want to have the same last name even if it's a shitty last name like

01:35:26.840 that's your husband yeah your kids are gonna have that last name um the odd one out yeah then you can't

01:35:31.000 put like little signs like the johnsons you know like the little like family thing the johnson type

01:35:36.120 and like the world's largest last name yeah okay gotcha we have a couple more chats here uh if you

01:35:41.740 can read this jack may off i'm sorry i'll take you somewhere nice don't worry i'll pick a good place

01:35:48.160 maybe sushi or italian and i'll take care of you financially and physically oh and emotionally

01:35:53.720 oh okay how much are you making a year to take care of me financially that's what i want to know

01:36:01.680 and i don't really like italian okay so was is that a yes kind of for the day uh maybe for the

01:36:11.740 day yeah maybe we can you know get into details italian okay over sushi we have bender the offender

01:36:16.440 damn i walked into a five and below again not sure does that mean we're ugly bender the offender

01:36:21.000 i want to know what you look like yo by the way bender can you send your best selfie in the dms yeah

01:36:26.040 well can you send me a dm bender the offender because i just wanted to get to see in the

01:36:31.880 chat man i wanted to ask you something um send me a dm though all right we have grid one motorsports

01:36:37.980 coming up uh can i have you read this one maybe uh you sorry sorry sorry you me yeah yeah uh grid

01:36:45.760 one motorsports i have to ask what do the ladies on the panel expect from a man in a relationship

01:36:51.040 and what do they have to offer other than sex in what way if any is their feminism a help in their

01:36:58.680 relationship other than to tell them to be a 304 boss babe huh what is a 304 what area code

01:37:06.640 i don't know these guys really i think don't listen to him it means ho it's like it's definitely

01:37:12.640 but i want to know geographically where 304 is from wait 304 area code west virginia cut area code 304

01:37:24.080 covers the entire state of west virginia so he's just something's going on you can't say ho like on

01:37:29.840 tiktok i don't know why i don't know huh my sweet instant angel yeah oh it means so the question

01:37:37.840 is what do the ladies panel what i can't speak english tonight what do the ladies on the expand

01:37:44.480 expect from a man in a relationship and i guess what do you bring to the table so what do you expect

01:37:52.720 from a guy in a relationship and then what do you bring i do believe in traditional roles yeah i do

01:37:57.920 think a man should take care of most things financially uh you know be like the provider

01:38:03.120 protector i strongly believe in that i think a woman um you know obviously i want to have kids

01:38:09.760 take care of the kids take care of the home he's fed um you know the house is nice i'm there for him

01:38:16.000 emotionally i think a woman should be like a man's biggest supporter like i think a good woman by your

01:38:21.120 side a man can really reach like you know the greatest of heights yeah so i would i'd be there i'd be

01:38:26.240 loyal um yeah just i think it's hard for men to also like open up you know emotionally i'd be like

01:38:31.360 his kind of you know safety blanket okay for men to open up emotionally that kind of touches into the

01:38:38.480 vulnerability thing that she mentioned so we'll come back to that um what do you think what do you want

01:38:45.760 what do you expect a guy to uh from a man in a relationship and what do you bring to the table

01:38:52.240 um i mean in the past i've like expected the bare minimum but now i would say like

01:38:57.120 generally just like kind of like what she said you know i want to be taken care of and provided for

01:39:02.880 and protected and all that stuff in a relationship now as far as what i can like bring to a relationship

01:39:08.720 i don't know um i mean i'm funny i can help with like i can do random stuff but like i don't really

01:39:17.280 know if there's like yeah i can do like random tasks i'm not like good at and like specifically

01:39:22.080 anything what like a handyman you can fix a light bulb or what do we i can fix a light bulb if you

01:39:27.120 ask me can you change a tire yeah actually i can wow that's so hot i uh swapped my engine

01:39:33.920 that's what like if a girl can fix a tire like that yeah why from it's done i got you oh okay um

01:39:41.920 so you want you said you want to be taken care of provided for um remind us your boyfriend got you

01:39:50.720 what on your birthday your three-year long distance on again off again relationship yeah nothing yeah

01:39:58.720 nothing what oh yeah i mean see i need to expect more than the bare minimum i think actually that

01:40:06.960 wasn't even the bare minimum okay all right um okay but you do want a guy to like take care of

01:40:13.040 you provide for you even do you do you want him to start doing that from the very get-go yeah so

01:40:18.320 like paying for dates yeah paying for dinner 100 i want to like be able to form like an emotional

01:40:23.760 connection or like have like personality posture i'm sorry there we go um or having like personalities

01:40:29.520 that are like go and like together well and are cohesive like that's important but at first like

01:40:34.800 you gotta get you know you gotta riz you know gotta have the riz you gotta have the riz yeah

01:40:41.760 okay we can the riz the vibe the vibe the riz so what about you like do you think like a woman

01:40:48.800 should pay for date like ever take care of her man i think sometimes yeah men do need to be spoiled

01:40:54.720 sometimes just not as much not as much as women yeah okay why is that i mean

01:41:01.120 i don't know it's because like kind of falls into the same thing where it's like men are like more

01:41:08.960 like or what i look for in like men would be more of like a providing like protective role and i feel

01:41:14.400 like yeah like i can do that just not as well like i don't know i'd rather be like i don't know you do you

01:41:22.880 want a guy to be a protector right yeah that's why i like opposed to like i'd rather have him like be

01:41:28.000 like the initiator and like the main person and then like not the main person but like okay you

01:41:32.800 know something along those lines like if he was doing all the protection would it make sense that

01:41:38.320 he should get the like spoiling yeah honestly a little bit okay guys i'm just asking questions

01:41:45.760 right so like i have a question though you said you want your boyfriend and we talked about this a

01:41:51.600 little bit earlier you you want your boyfriend to be a protector right so you had an issue where your

01:41:58.480 boyfriend he didn't want you to go out partying and go to clubs now and you mentioned this too

01:42:05.120 with your boyfriend maybe you guys you other girls here have had issues with guys trying to

01:42:09.360 control you when it comes to not wanting you to go out to bar uh parties clubs bars get drunk go out

01:42:17.120 with your single girl uh single girlfriends couldn't you make the argument that men not wanting their

01:42:24.880 girlfriends to go out to these types of environments is men using their masculine instincts to keep

01:42:31.120 their significant other uh out of position out of positions that put the relationship at risk and put

01:42:39.680 her in a potentially dangerous situation i don't know because i think a lot of it with men has to do

01:42:44.560 with like insecurity with i think it's insecure if a guy yeah i feel like a lot of guys are insecure

01:42:49.520 about like their girls and they're like worried that like other guys are gonna like i don't know

01:42:54.160 like make a move or something i feel like i don't know but other guys do make a move i mean yeah but

01:42:59.120 like you can reject them yeah yeah we like yes i know you guys yeah it's like you should already just

01:43:06.080 be able to like trust if you're not trying to be trusting the person then why like why are you with

01:43:10.160 them yeah not okay so you should just automatically like assume they're going to be loyal because like

01:43:15.600 that you know yeah i think they assume that we're going out to like find someone else yeah that's what

01:43:22.080 they do most of the time that's not like what we're trying to do we're trying to actually like

01:43:27.600 yeah exactly but it's just part of yeah no you go because i know what you're gonna do you think yeah

01:43:33.440 do you think part of having fun is like going out and like meeting guys i mean like as a woman you

01:43:37.280 know like you're probably gonna get hit on like you know yeah i mean a couple of times yeah if

01:43:41.200 you wanted to hook up with someone you could and like as a man like i don't know me as a girlfriend

01:43:45.920 like what do i need to go out for if like my man's not there because like i'm gonna get hit on yeah

01:43:51.280 100 and like you're under the influence you're like i don't know if you do drugs or like you know

01:43:55.520 you're drunk like you could fall into those traps for sure yeah 100 but it's also a respect thing like

01:44:01.280 for your significant other like when you're in a committed relationship i feel like

01:44:05.760 the respect factor of it is like maybe you shouldn't go out clubbing and partying and

01:44:10.480 putting yourself in that situation i don't think it's an insecurity thing for men i think it's more

01:44:15.280 so a respect thing especially in a day and age where we post on oh that was a oh keep going keep

01:44:22.240 going go ahead no i'm just saying in the day and age that we post on social media a lot you know i

01:44:26.400 think that men always have their friends in their ears being like yo your girl's out partying like

01:44:32.640 actually that's a slut sorry but like that's how men think that is literally how men think and

01:44:38.160 it's a respect thing and then when men get it from their friends they're like whoa my ego has been

01:44:44.000 bruised and that's why they're like upset with you yeah i get that i like the way you put that like

01:44:48.240 i'm not saying don't go party don't have fun but like keep that in the back of the mind of like

01:44:52.000 it's a respect thing at the end of the day yeah you know go party together go do things together if

01:44:56.880 you want to have a girl's day there's other things than going out to bars and partying like

01:45:02.000 that you know and i will say like we both work in a nightclub and there have been many instances

01:45:08.640 where we've seen a girl just completely wasted with like a group of guys and there's been times

01:45:16.080 where i'm like you need to get out of here i'm gonna get someone to kick you out of here because

01:45:19.120 these guys are going to completely take advantage of you i have a question kind of related to what

01:45:22.720 she's saying do you guys think that people make mistakes when it comes to infidelity like you can

01:45:29.040 end up in a situation due to the circumstances alcohol is involved drugs are involved maybe you're

01:45:35.360 just you just had you're still in a relationship but you had an argument with your boyfriend you're

01:45:39.840 both kind of upset you're with your single female friends that would love to have you back single again

01:45:45.200 um do these all these factors can they coalesce and potentially lead to somebody making

01:45:54.720 uh making a mistake leading to infidelity because people cheat sometimes they cheat intentionally

01:46:00.720 sometimes people will cheat they fucked up they made a mistake and they feel terrible about it

01:46:05.200 a hundred percent like i see it five nights a week you guys work in nightclubs right yeah yeah these

01:46:09.920 girls they got boyfriends they're cheating but but it's okay it's not only girls sure guys yeah

01:46:14.080 men men okay the bachelor parties that come in sure last night of freedom the the friends they pull

01:46:21.360 girls to the table this is in vegas yeah they put girls to the table they're like bro it's your last

01:46:26.720 night of freedom like go dance with her and then it ends up oh you're now making out oh now you're

01:46:32.640 leaving together yeah but it's not it's only women yes women do fall into that as well and it just

01:46:38.880 takes as simple as oh i had a fight with my boyfriend i'm drinking my inhibitions are lowered

01:46:44.880 i also think it does matter like who your friends are and who you're hanging out with like ties this is

01:46:50.880 my best friend but she's married like we don't go out and we don't go fuck shit up yeah no she's

01:46:57.120 married like you know so hey we're going to brunch we're doing a little lounge or something like that

01:47:02.400 if we go like we don't we don't go party yeah i feel like we've like we've gone to like industry

01:47:10.080 outings where it's like all of our co-workers but we still have to remember like we are part of the

01:47:14.640 company and we're not out here trying to be wild it may seem like that on social media because we're

01:47:20.320 promoting a fun time but it's not well i'd like to hear from you guys over here too like do you

01:47:25.360 guys think a guy not wanting his long-term monogamous girlfriend he doesn't want her going out

01:47:32.080 partying do you think that's an do you think that's insecure do you think he doesn't have uh

01:47:38.960 he he doesn't trust her um what do you guys think over here i wouldn't say it's insecurity i think

01:47:46.960 that's like a bad label i think when you're in a relationship there's definitely you have to have

01:47:52.000 like mutual respect and mutual trust obviously i feel like people should be allowed to go out should

01:47:57.840 be allowed to like have fun but i think that when you are in a relationship personally just when i

01:48:04.240 was in a relationship i didn't go out as much or i would go out with him yeah but also i think that

01:48:11.520 saying that you shouldn't go out to someone is also like you don't really have trust in them but it also

01:48:16.720 is true that like men know men better than women know men women know women better than men know women

01:48:23.440 so it's like we they obviously we know what intentions are we know what like other things

01:48:28.480 are but like if i was talking to someone and they were going to go out i'd like hope and trust that

01:48:33.840 like they would respect me and not like do something you know like i wouldn't push that onto them sure

01:48:39.360 what about you um i agree with that but i think in like past relationships like i don't know it is a

01:48:46.640 huge like trust thing as well like having your significant other go out and do things um i

01:48:54.080 personally like don't i agree with like kind of like respecting each other's boundaries and like

01:49:01.760 knowing that like hey i don't want you to go to that club i don't want you to go to that party and i

01:49:05.360 think that that's a respect thing and i think that they should agree with that what about you um i feel

01:49:11.520 like in my personal experiences like when i was in that long-term relationship with my cheating ex-boyfriend

01:49:16.560 it's like really hard for me to judge this question because like when i was with them i wasn't allowed

01:49:20.000 to go out i didn't drink at the time i was in high school i literally like when i would go to parties

01:49:25.120 like i would just stay with my girlfriends and they would be drunk and i would be babysitting them like

01:49:29.600 literally like just there to like keep them safe and like i wasn't even allowed to do that much so i it's

01:49:35.040 hard to really say like for me if it's like insecurity or if it's because he's like cheating on you you

01:49:39.520 know like i don't know it was i feel like it was like a projection almost like for him to say oh you can't do

01:49:44.960 this like there's other guys there like you're gonna cheat on me there like because that's

01:49:48.000 obviously the end of the day you're like more nervous about your girl going out because you

01:49:51.200 think she's gonna like cheat like that's like the core fear so i feel like it's almost like

01:49:55.600 depends on the guy because it could be a reflection of themselves okay at least that's what i learned

01:49:59.600 in my relationship gotcha i also feel like um if i'm dating someone and they don't know their alcohol

01:50:05.840 limit and i would not feel comfortable with that but i feel like if they know how much they they drink they

01:50:13.360 like know exactly like i don't know i just feel like i would trust them a lot more if they knew

01:50:20.960 their limit and i've seen them drunk and they're not sloppy or could get taken advantage of or take

01:50:27.600 advantage of someone else or like overly friendly yeah sophie did you weigh in on this um

01:50:34.080 uh well okay brandon mails donated 99 i've been plastered and crossfaded into oblivion and still

01:50:43.440 know not to go home with someone and sleep with them i've never understood that excuse from others

01:50:49.520 if that is you you definitely shouldn't put yourself in that spot while in a relationship

01:50:54.320 um go ahead i mean thank you brandon by the way if i i mean yeah i've like gotten in fights with my

01:51:04.160 ex and then gotten drunk but i that never caused me to go and talk to somebody else i still you know

01:51:11.600 it was just i've never felt that yeah yeah and what about you huh um i mean i don't know

01:51:21.600 uh well okay um do you think it's uh let's say you're let's say you're talking to a guy yeah and

01:51:29.600 i mean it sounds like you want to just be in an open relationship but let's say you wanted to be in a

01:51:35.040 committed relationship you wanted commitment from the guy and he said okay i'm prepared to be monogamous

01:51:41.040 with you yeah committed to you however if you want my commitment i don't want you i don't want you

01:51:47.520 grid one motorsports donated 100 if you are in a relationship stop acting like you are single

01:51:54.960 and do not hang out with single friends both are toxic to healthy relationships i highly disagree

01:52:01.520 with that yeah i highly disagree with that well i think some single friends because i do like yeah

01:52:06.640 some single friends like i will say like we recently have gotten closer but when i've hung out with my

01:52:11.600 single friends yo some of those girls are wild and now and i'm like not even just saying this i'm like a

01:52:16.960 a lot more chill than more people but like yo some single girls are they're fucking crazy like

01:52:22.080 they're almost worse than men especially because we have so many more options i mean a lot of single

01:52:26.880 friends want their friends back yeah no exactly i agree no but i think some of them if they're your

01:52:33.920 true friend with us anymore it's like they're she they're gonna start talking shit about your partner

01:52:40.400 no absolutely not i feel like not all the time no but if they're your true friends they're gonna

01:52:45.440 respect you and they're gonna respect your relationship and they're gonna respect your

01:52:48.480 partner and if you're in a good friendship they're not gonna put you in that position

01:52:56.800 but your party ho friends they want you to go out yeah for me i have distanced myself

01:53:01.840 yeah but you're like yeah you're you don't have friends like that i don't feel i i don't have friends

01:53:07.280 at all the other issue though is if you're like hanging out with your single friends like you're

01:53:15.440 gonna get a bit of the grass is greener on the other side you're gonna get yo uh not yo uh fomo

01:53:21.280 thank you fear of missing out oh they're telling you about all these crazy fun adventures they're

01:53:26.240 going on all the cute fucking people they're hooking up with whatever you're gonna be like it's

01:53:31.360 gonna be a little thing in the back of your head like is that fun no i don't think that's fine no

01:53:37.600 i i feel bad for my like friends like acquaintances that are like oh yeah i hooked up with this dude

01:53:43.360 on wednesday yeah i went out with this other dude on thursday i'm like you're giving yourself

01:53:47.440 so much to these people sure it i just i don't know it's not yeah uh let's get back to sophie so i

01:53:53.200 forgot exactly what uh fuck what was the conversation thread before the tts um

01:54:01.760 are guys insecure insecure no wait i think i was at tell me if this is what i was asking

01:54:07.360 do you think it's unreasonable for a guy to not fuck what was it do you remember

01:54:15.680 i was i was like about to finish my question um no you didn't you just asked me what my input

01:54:22.080 was on this whole situation no but i was i would yeah you were talking about you were about to say

01:54:27.360 like oh i want to be in a closed relationship but now this means oh my god one motorsport okay i got

01:54:35.840 it i got it yeah disagree all you want i have been married 17 years and have watched a lot of stupid

01:54:42.240 toxic crap from toxic single friends torpedoing married friends i do not have female friends my wife

01:54:50.000 does not have male friends neither of us have single friends okay i mean grid one motorsports

01:54:56.320 thank you man i feel like we didn't talk about women having male friends and males having we can

01:55:02.880 definitely women friends i feel like we just talked about the fact that like you can have a single

01:55:06.480 friend and still be okay now does that you said you know you've watched it torpedo into other marriages

01:55:12.560 maybe the marriage was the problem maybe it wasn't super secure yeah i don't know maybe maybe maybe

01:55:20.800 maybe the guy didn't outline boundaries that would have protected the relationship such as yeah don't

01:55:26.800 be going out to bars clubs and parties and hanging out with your single friends that could have been

01:55:31.280 a thing i do think people have like willpower sometimes up to a certain like limit i don't know i

01:55:35.760 think like hey you can be strong and i'm not going to do this but if you're constantly you're going

01:55:39.680 out every single night as a woman you're constantly being approached by these guys like hey i want to

01:55:43.600 take care of you hey i want to do this i want to do that i think maybe as a woman you could break down

01:55:47.840 and i forgot if it was you or you who mentioned respect was it like i think men care a lot about

01:55:52.960 respect even if i trusted my girl and she would never get with another guy like if she was just at

01:55:59.520 a party and she got a little too drunk and was like sloppy at a party and like other people i know

01:56:07.120 saw her in that way that reflects poorly on me yes and then if she was like twerking or some

01:56:12.880 shit at a party that looks bad on me yeah so even if she's not hooking up with some other dude it's

01:56:21.360 just like i've in my view and people have different standards on this that is behavior unbecoming of a

01:56:29.520 girlfriend or wife um but so sophie uh wait give me give me a little mental boost here what what

01:56:38.320 so you were talking about you want to close the relationship but now you're gonna be setting forth

01:56:43.920 yeah so you guys so you guys want a commitment from this guy you really like him you want to be

01:56:49.280 monogamous and he says i'm prepared to be monogamous with you i'm prepared to be in a relationship with

01:56:54.800 you but i don't want you going out partying drinking going to clubs going to bars nightclubs

01:57:01.440 etc do you accept that or do you say you're not going to tell me what to do um i guess it

01:57:09.920 depends i mean when when i was in my monogamous relationship i really didn't feel the need to

01:57:16.160 go out and do all that stuff most of the time i was like super content and happy doing what i was

01:57:20.720 doing with him and yeah um the nights that i occasionally did go out i wasn't you know doing

01:57:29.120 crazy shit or i was really just with like my close-knit girls and i wasn't going off and i was

01:57:33.520 honestly texting him like the whole night being like i kind of want to leave anyway yeah it

01:57:38.320 fucking sucks it really like i think if you like if you peel back the layer is it really that

01:57:44.640 i don't know maybe i'm a i had a better time being with him and doing and you know then going

01:57:52.800 out and i mean i had like some fun nights just in my apartment like wine nights with my roommates but

01:57:58.000 that was really the extent of sure what i was doing when i was in a relationship well what about you

01:58:03.520 i mean i mean i get like both sides of it honestly but at the same time but you guys were pretty strong

01:58:10.640 in the it's insecure he doesn't have trust in you both i know that maybe there's a little more

01:58:16.800 people on the other side of the table but don't feel compelled to walk back your position okay just

01:58:21.680 because there's people at the table that disagree with you stand firm in your beliefs like a rock

01:58:27.360 we're still gonna be friends after this okay don't worry the waves are crashing against the rocky

01:58:31.920 promontory i will say i think my views have changed from when i was 21 to when i'm 28 i probably

01:58:38.400 thought more so like it's insecure but i want to party and you know but do you think it's like

01:58:42.560 insecure if a guy i mean i think yeah no i feel like it's like a insecurity issue like he doesn't

01:58:48.880 trust you yeah like i'm not saying that's always the case but like okay i feel like a lot of the time

01:58:53.920 it can be and then julia i think you had the strongest position on this what about you you think

01:58:58.480 again doesn't have trust in you he's insecure i think it really depends on the relationship i think

01:59:04.320 some people it's trust some people it's just their values yeah um and have you ever met a guy

01:59:11.200 because you said that your two-year sorry to cut you off there but your two-year relationship

01:59:15.120 you wanted it to be open have you ever met a guy that's so amazing that you like i want this guy

01:59:21.680 all to myself i want to be just with him have you ever met a guy like that um i haven't but um

01:59:28.320 i know that when i i know that i probably will one day and i will not want an open relationship

01:59:35.120 with them okay um i think a lot of the reason why it was open was just because we were young

01:59:39.840 sure um and i wasn't looking for anything serious um but i don't know i feel like sometimes i just want

01:59:46.560 to go out and i want to dance to edm and i just it has nothing to do with wanting to hook up with

01:59:51.760 anyone or getting really drunk like i just kind of want to have a little fun and i think um that's

01:59:58.960 pretty understanding yeah but i think other people definitely have different intentions okay um and

02:00:05.360 where did you fall again on this were you kind of more so like and should be fine to even in a

02:00:10.640 relationship to just i should be able to go out and party like you're insecure like it's kind of

02:00:15.360 insecure i think i would trust play by ear based off the person like i'd like examine like the

02:00:22.640 situation and how that person acts around like other people and if they're going out like uh there

02:00:27.760 should be no way that i'm not allowed to go out but like if they're staying in like i'm all down for

02:00:31.360 staying in like okay i see yeah i just think it's like almost like equality between the two like if

02:00:36.400 they're like out partying and they're like oh you can't go out because that's kind of like how my

02:00:40.000 last relationship was i think that's like a red flag and a bad thing versus like if he's not going

02:00:45.840 out like why should i sure me me personally i i don't really drink occasionally i'll have like a

02:00:51.440 glass of wine but i rarely drink um i don't go to bars i don't go to clubs i don't party um not my thing

02:00:59.920 so for me it certainly would be almost extending into a commonality thing like i don't think i would

02:01:05.680 have a lot in common with somebody who parties super frequently and because i'm staying in

02:01:09.840 i certainly wouldn't want uh my partner going out but when it comes to kind of and i think what

02:01:14.720 you're trying to point out is it would be a bit hypocritical if a guy was going out but didn't

02:01:19.200 want his girlfriend going out i do think that first off i don't know again i'm kind of cranky i guess on

02:01:26.000 this front but i don't see the point in going out and partying it's kind of to me it's just like

02:01:32.080 waste of time but um but uh i do think it's different between men and women because the tension that

02:01:38.640 uh women get when they go out it's very different um and i have a tweet here that i

02:01:44.640 love to share that's related to this i'm going to shout out ldg i can't say your name because it's

02:01:49.520 kind of little d game okay um so so the difference between men and women when it comes to this whole

02:01:56.880 like club going out partying thing going to bars whatever is that and this also kind of relates to

02:02:03.280 instagram and like posting thirst straps and shit and why men tend to get upset about this

02:02:07.440 perhaps the corresponding thing would be like men liking instagram photos um so women run passive

02:02:15.360 game so women don't approach men really you just put yourselves in positions where you can be

02:02:23.200 approached by men so you go to club you go to bar you go to party you're not going to dm a guy

02:02:28.880 you'll post a picture to kind of elicit men to dm you so men are salesmen women are marketers

02:02:36.080 um and essentially in a committed relationship a man should stop pitching so going up to girls

02:02:43.440 sending dms and a woman should stop advertising so advertising would be putting yourself in positions

02:02:51.760 where you can be approached because we both run different games women aren't out there like

02:02:56.800 approaching like 10 20 dudes in a night they're not sending dms to a bunch of people men are men

02:03:03.600 are going to approach girls women don't really do that so uh there there is a differential there uh

02:03:12.880 women in relationships never give up their edge women don't i mean some do but like if by you

02:03:19.280 continuing to go out to bars clubs and parties you're still putting yourself out there

02:03:24.000 so that's often the oftentimes why women will find replacements really quick because you actually

02:03:31.920 like were you were generating leads the whole time like almost building like a roster while you were

02:03:39.760 still in a relationship like so i think uh see that's where the whole like thing comes in where

02:03:46.800 if they're going out then they're still like marketing and then you're still allowed to advertise and if

02:03:51.360 they're staying in then sure stay but but the difference is though is that we both agree that

02:03:57.280 it would be wrong for the guy to go up to girls and hit on them but you as women you aren't really

02:04:03.280 going up to guys and hitting on men so like for example the difference the difference between us

02:04:09.200 like me and rhino we could go to a nightclub and just go the bar hang out somewhere i don't know

02:04:15.440 sit down somewhere wherever it may be there's no girls even if we're in relationships even if we're

02:04:20.720 single no girls are coming to talk to us no girls are approaching us whereas for you if you guys go

02:04:27.520 out to party go out to a club go out to a bar you're gonna get flirted with you're gonna get hit on but

02:04:33.120 that's not our fault yeah it's just the way you respond to it okay but i will also say like even

02:04:37.920 though i am pretty like okay against that like as a man you probably wouldn't want to go somewhere that

02:04:42.560 there wasn't woman women around even if you are in a relationship like what do you mean like you

02:04:47.200 wouldn't go to an all-male bar like women are still in the atmosphere like i know there are

02:04:52.720 like tables that we have sometimes bachelor tables and there are still some good guys but they're just

02:04:56.720 like hey we just want to hang out with girls like it's still just kind of like the chase like it could

02:05:01.680 potentially happen you would not go to an all-male bar but even if you're in a relationship but most

02:05:07.920 women most women don't go to all-female bars i would i would love to go yeah all-female parties

02:05:15.680 yeah i think there's definitely a component though of like going out a lot of women who don't like

02:05:19.520 being bothered by men when they go out yeah i will i will say that i think some women of large portion

02:05:24.800 of women like the attention yeah there's some even if you reject them it's kind of a that you're

02:05:30.400 receiving validation even if you like brutally but i think even men too i mean you could even just

02:05:36.640 have like a you know just a friendly kind of flirting conversation and nothing comes of it

02:05:41.600 even if you have like a girlfriend like okay like i had this fun little interaction and that's it i

02:05:47.040 think both sexes kind of can you know sure question for you three um would you feel like let's say you're

02:05:52.880 in a relationship with a guy would you be opposed to him going to the strip club a couple times a week

02:06:00.400 it depends strip club strip club yeah why would he i feel like that's kind of like the close it's

02:06:06.320 not it's not it's still i think not as bad as going to the clubs and bars and parties because

02:06:10.400 the strippers there's no way the strippers are going to sleep with them but he asked me to go

02:06:16.800 actually i was thinking of something i don't yeah and then i'll do that on today go ahead so would

02:06:25.040 you have an issue with him going to the strip club i wouldn't date i wouldn't date a guy that would do

02:06:28.960 that yeah why i just you don't have trust no going to a strip club that's strictly they're like

02:06:34.960 lusting over other girls that's the point of that though no they're just like going to hang out

02:06:39.520 with their boys and like have a good time why can't they go why can't well i can make the same

02:06:44.720 argument why not just stay home with your girlfriends and just have a quiet like a drink

02:06:48.640 inside strip club is so different than just like a bar yeah like it's just like naked but those girls

02:06:54.080 those girls see the dudes that go the strip club as marks they would never fuck any of those dudes

02:06:58.880 that's not true we live in vegas yeah some strippers would fuck some of those guys yeah but

02:07:04.560 like most strippers like would not like they they they hold the customers in contempt almost they

02:07:11.680 almost view them in like sure they might fuck like whatever but most of them view them like these guys

02:07:16.720 are dorks but but the reason that a guy is going to a strip club is to look at other women no it's just

02:07:22.640 for the brother chicken wings or whatever the fuck then go to like wing stop or something oh why can't

02:07:28.480 you just like have a quiet night in with your girlfriends instead of like going to a party

02:07:32.400 where you know you're going to get hit on i think just a strip club in general is just so different

02:07:36.240 from any other like bar here how about this that's such a different how about this that's like us going

02:07:40.400 to mail yeah that's like us going yeah okay let me try i'm gonna try to back you up here okay give me

02:07:45.440 yeah i was saying so if you guys had boyfriends and then your guy says hey babe i'm gonna go to a party

02:07:52.960 it's a house party it's a bunch of prawn stars and they they all want to have they all want to have

02:07:58.400 sex with me um some of them have like roofies in their pockets but like i'm gonna like try to

02:08:04.000 avoid it how would you feel about that i'm gonna like your man wants to go to a party with a bunch of

02:08:10.880 some cute some not so cute prawn stars and they all want to have sex with him how comfortable would

02:08:16.080 you feel with him going to that party if they want to have sex with him then obviously if he wants

02:08:21.840 to go he wants to have sex so that's the equivalent of when a girl's at the bar no i a lot of y'all

02:08:29.680 the men are not porn stars well i don't think that's the central i'm making the central argument

02:08:36.560 it's basically just if y'all went to the club and started asking each guy hey would you be down to

02:08:40.800 have sex with me a large majority of the men at the bar are gonna say we can run that we can leave

02:08:45.520 right now why would i ask that well well i don't think you would but um that's the equivalent of of

02:08:51.120 you're at a place where everyone there would have sex with you and wants to and wants to and

02:08:56.240 there's also dangerous creeps that are willing to like put some on your drink whatever so what would

02:09:01.200 happen if your man was at a place where everyone wanted to have sex with him you would hate that

02:09:06.080 but if i don't want my girl to be at a place where i know everyone wants to have sex with her

02:09:09.920 i'm a bad guy who's like insecure so i was trying to make a little equivalent yeah and just to add on

02:09:16.480 top of that in addition to just like let's say we do 100 trust you right maybe we don't trust like

02:09:23.280 he was saying the other people in that bar so that's just us we we just want to protect you

02:09:29.520 like we want to protect you because i mean i'm sure you guys like some maybe you guys have been

02:09:34.080 out and some guy was kind of like he said something kind of mean to you or maybe he was even grabby like

02:09:39.840 we want to protect you from those situations we don't want you like guys when you know there's

02:09:45.760 some scumbag guys when they're drunk they're gonna want to like they might try to grab your ass on the

02:09:50.400 sly or some shit we don't want you to deal with that and uh and in these types of environments you

02:09:56.400 got a bunch of dudes they're drunk it's tight quarters like uh and uh in these types of environments

02:10:02.800 sometimes you know we we want to protect you have y'all ever been have you ever heard of someone

02:10:09.360 going to a party club and getting drugged yeah do you know someone that's happened to yeah have

02:10:15.280 y'all ever been touched inappropriately at a club or party no yeah yeah so it's like but then y'all but

02:10:22.880 then when i say don't go to a party it's like you're the worst like but that's the man's fault the man

02:10:27.760 it's no i agree it's the man's fault for touching you and roofing you agreed but then you're

02:10:31.840 actively going to a place where uh you can put yourself you can put yourself in that position so

02:10:36.880 i it's like for i related to that really quick it's there's dangerous parts of town right you

02:10:44.320 in in the ideal world you should be able to just walk through a dangerous part of town at 2 a.m

02:10:49.840 and nobody it's the other person's fault like should anyone hurt you no but the reality of the

02:10:56.720 the situation is being pragmatic being practical if you put your like if you put your again it

02:11:02.800 shouldn't happen to you but if if i walk into a war zone or something like to make a extreme case

02:11:09.600 here i shouldn't be surprised if i like catch some shrapnel or get you know so yeah i was going to say

02:11:16.400 that men tend to view women that they like or love almost like a like a diamond or like a expensive

02:11:23.040 car so if you had a very expensive diamond are you going to like leave it outside your house and

02:11:28.880 like just kind of let it go wherever and if it's in the wash whatever no you're going to keep it in

02:11:33.440 a display case and you're not going to want anything touching it and it's like don't go near the display

02:11:38.800 case don't do that so that's how or like if you do a comparison to like a lamborghini men if you own

02:11:45.600 a lamborghini would you park it in the hood even if the lamborghini had the best locking mechanism

02:11:50.720 and bulletproof windows are you going to park it in skid row or are you going to like keep it in

02:11:55.760 your driveway keep it in the garage and polish it and shine the wheels and take pictures of it and

02:12:00.320 take it out for a spin on your own time like that's what that's how men kind of view women that they

02:12:06.160 value they want to keep them protected as opposed like if you had a guy that would let you like

02:12:10.880 wanted you to go out yeah babe do your thing i'd almost be worried that he didn't even like you that

02:12:15.520 much but that's from yeah that's from like a man's perspective but i don't think women tend to think

02:12:20.320 of the man's perspective it looks like you just had a light bulb there yeah like hearing like your

02:12:25.040 opinion on that just kind of like opened it just kind of opened it up like a lot more like i kind of

02:12:30.720 like maybe had an idea of what like the other side of it was like but like

02:12:33.920 yeah you actually put that really well like appreciate that yeah yeah i i just always hear that argument

02:12:38.960 all the time and it it doesn't come from a bad place from guys it's like my ex was controlling

02:12:45.760 but that's men want to control control things that they like and things that they value so yeah the

02:12:53.040 same way if i gave you something valuable you're not gonna just let it roll around and go out wherever

02:12:58.160 and all that stuff so yeah i think but it's in a man's nature to protect his woman it's yeah like

02:13:04.240 that's what it is masculine yes and we shouldn't be mad at you guys for doing that we should be

02:13:11.680 praising you for doing that yeah or no or i agree am i wrong no well i just i agree i probably wouldn't

02:13:19.760 even want to date a girl who even had the even if she was single who was put like that's just a

02:13:26.320 mismatch of yeah to begin with but um like yeah if she wanted to continue while we were in a

02:13:33.280 relationship continue going out partying clubbing whatever okay like i'm just i'm either never

02:13:38.800 going to take you seriously and i'll just keep you in

02:13:44.880 sex territory and never commit to you you'll never get commitment from me or i'll just i'm not

02:13:49.920 interested at all and i'll go find a girl who's better suited to be in a relationship so yeah if she

02:13:54.960 goes out parties clubs and bars red flag done yeah sorry julia but uh that was probably your man's

02:14:02.000 mistake like i think just getting with a girl who does that not saying there's anything wrong with

02:14:05.680 what you're doing but like he didn't like he didn't want his girl to go out like he shouldn't

02:14:08.880 have got with the girl if she wants to do it she can do it but you know i just think i do understand

02:14:15.840 your point of view but i do think for me in relationships i think i'm my own person and you're

02:14:22.000 your own person and i think that there shouldn't be any control over what i want to do or what they want

02:14:27.760 to do but if you do have a problem with me going out or you or you see me going out and you see that

02:14:33.280 i'm doing something that is a little like flirting with anyone or anything like that that's when i

02:14:38.640 like that's where i feel like the line should be drawn and that does make sense but i mean you say

02:14:44.560 you're you're your own person and when you're in a relationship there shouldn't be any but i mean

02:14:50.640 it's when you guys sit down and have a conversation obviously you start limiting your own behavior once you

02:14:56.720 get into a serious relationship for example what was once acceptable when you were single

02:15:02.320 may no longer be acceptable once you're in a relationship for example fucking other people

02:15:06.560 i think that is it controlling for your partner to not want you to sleep with other people no but

02:15:12.000 it's just a given not to yeah but shouldn't it i think it should just be a given to not i mean

02:15:17.680 exactly it depends not put yourself not go to bars and clubs and parties when you're in a serious

02:15:22.720 long-term relationship you got to remember the age gap here though right different generation i'm

02:15:28.560 not i feel like i'm not going to be going out probably in like a year or two honestly you also

02:15:32.880 haven't like met a person yeah i'm getting out of my system you also haven't met a person where you

02:15:38.000 like really like yeah loved them and you you know exactly you didn't feel that way about him so it's

02:15:44.720 it's so different it's different what about this for for you three um what do you feel about your

02:15:51.120 boyfriend watching porn oh i don't really care don't care no okay so why is that different than

02:15:56.320 him going to the strip club because it's like at his fingertips like almost yeah there's no it's

02:16:02.240 real life but you trust your man right don't you i don't know it wouldn't bother me too much but i

02:16:07.920 would be like i mean like if he was just going for like well i don't know he just men are visual

02:16:14.000 creatures ever been like let's get he i'd have to go with him yeah he was like go with me but but

02:16:19.120 that was the only time it was like ever brought up he didn't ever want to like

02:16:21.840 grid one motorsports donated 100 i am my own person slash he is his own person bs

02:16:30.720 that is not a relationship it's cohabitation at best a relationship is best made when both

02:16:37.040 commit to each other and there is more us and less i 100 agree with you facts facts facts um it's okay

02:16:46.560 julia we still love you um but uh sophie i think you were making a point oh um yeah i i really never

02:16:56.160 had to deal with i never had issues regarding you know that i don't know yeah he he was sober so i

02:17:05.840 never i i don't i've never been in that situation where i've had to deal with that sure okay all right

02:17:12.160 i mean my personal view is um when it comes to your girlfriend going to bars clubs parties whatever

02:17:17.840 uh me personally that's that's a deal breaker i just don't think as a guy you should be in a

02:17:23.200 serious relationship with a woman who doesn't realize the importance of limiting their own

02:17:28.160 behavior to protect the relationship i think if you respect your partner you don't engage in

02:17:32.640 activities which are essentially designed for single people and i guess we can try to dance around it

02:17:38.080 all we want but i believe that bars clubs and house parties whatever are very specific social

02:17:43.760 gatherings i think they're typically for single people um because when you go to like bro i i used

02:17:51.280 to i i've been to these parties when i was younger it wasn't really my thing but i i went to them a

02:17:55.520 little bit bro people be like be getting finger blasted in the middle of the fucking party yeah i saw

02:18:02.880 that all the time like some frat party whatever some girl meets a guy within five minutes she's

02:18:08.400 him in the bathroom like i've seen this play out you could and people would be like well you don't

02:18:15.040 let your girl know like if your girlfriend goes to trader joe's it's not about she can't go outside

02:18:19.520 but like i don't know i don't think in the history of trader joe's anybody met at their trader joe's

02:18:24.720 and then five minutes later finger blasting what's happening i don't think it's been a thing you

02:18:29.120 know it's cool go to tj's go to trader joe's it's all good go to trader joe's yeah ultimately

02:18:35.120 though i do think at the end of the day these boundaries remain a totally reasonable dating

02:18:39.760 standard for commitment-minded men and i do think it acts as a great filter against independent women

02:18:46.720 who think they can hoe around while having a stable dude as a safety net just saying just just

02:18:53.200 saying you know what i mean do you agree right now yeah i mean yeah you kind of said it all there

02:18:59.120 so i agree with you i don't know like what i guess what some people call insecure or controlling

02:19:04.480 i just call having boundaries so it's also just i can understand why it feels good to be because

02:19:10.480 i've never been a woman before but i could only imagine someone coming like one time a girl offered

02:19:18.240 to like buy me something and i was like i've never forgot that moment for us like for my whole life

02:19:23.760 and this happened like two years ago and she's like i'd be willing to like get you coffee and i was

02:19:29.200 like and she wasn't really cute at all but i was like i was like let's do it like hell yeah so but

02:19:35.680 thinking about if imagine if i had that everywhere i went every party i went someone wanted to buy me

02:19:41.280 something and someone wanted to talk to me and i i have like i'm not trying to be a flex here but i have

02:19:45.760 like 10 million followers on youtube and all instagram and everything and i don't even get that level of

02:19:51.440 and it won't no like no one's trying to buy me so if i was constantly going to places where

02:19:56.640 everyone wanted to talk to me and buy me stuff and compliment me i'd be there every damn night

02:20:01.760 so i can understand why girls like going out and like going to parties but i guess you gotta you

02:20:07.760 gotta give things up if you want the benefits that come with a boyfriend or a partner do you think it

02:20:14.480 also depends on the type of woman you know you're with because i do think some women can be a little bit

02:20:19.440 more influenced you know with like the attention that they're getting from some men but like

02:20:24.640 for example me and her we'll go to universal and like a guy is coming up to us and she's like i

02:20:29.120 literally like repulse she's like get him away from me like i don't you know what i mean so i think

02:20:33.600 there's some women where it's like they're not into it like would you be okay with if you had a woman

02:20:38.640 that was like hey i'm i don't even like men i barely like you you know what i mean like would you

02:20:43.360 be okay with her going out more um i tend to gravitate towards women who have other interests

02:20:50.960 like can you rephrase that again their your question i don't know if i i i do think i do

02:20:57.040 think there are some women who you know when being approached with men they're like oh my god like all

02:21:02.160 this attention like i love it so much and then i think there's a different kind of woman who's like

02:21:06.880 oh like these men i don't even want to deal with it like would it depend on the woman you know as

02:21:11.840 opposed to a woman who likes attention a lot more and another woman who's like i'm not really into

02:21:16.000 it but yo i just want to go party with my girls yeah because i've had situations where okay the

02:21:19.520 girl i like and we get along and she has great values and isn't an attention seeker validation

02:21:24.880 type of girl yeah yeah if she's going to a function or something i would feel far more

02:21:29.600 comfortable and i'm not gonna have my panties in a bunch because she's out doing something see

02:21:34.160 that's more of what i was talking about but you know sometimes you just you never want to have

02:21:41.360 the girl be in a position where something could happen but yeah i completely agree with you up

02:21:48.320 the girl has to be the type of girl who doesn't like the validation i need a girl with no instagram

02:21:53.760 pictures nothing like no instagram i mean that's fine that's not gonna happen but yeah all right let

02:22:00.560 me get a couple chats and we have ollie here yo brian here is 100 dude thank you man so much really

02:22:05.120 appreciate it you have a powerful platform so use it wisely understand that it's a matter of choice

02:22:11.360 choose a partner who makes decisions that align with yours and make good decisions yourself boom

02:22:19.120 i agree 100 ollie 86 job ollie i'm still ollie boom what do you agree with um the general sentiment yeah

02:22:28.080 choose a partner who makes decisions that align with yours i mean word yeah the align part's important

02:22:33.920 it was really not hard for me to change my lifestyle because i was like sure so in love

02:22:38.080 with that i really just it didn't matter to me got it yo ollie thank you very much man appreciate it

02:22:42.400 we have grid one motorsports here i'm from tennessee been all over the world even live at tahoe

02:22:47.840 owned a house in the sf bay area there is nowhere better than the south brian you should move the

02:22:53.280 show to nashville also i'm not a redneck i am a tennessee a hill jack okay uh moving the show that

02:23:00.480 nashville probably no i've i've considered moving either to uh vegas or florida because there's no

02:23:09.200 income tax or state income tax um i don't know i grew up in california i like california i like santa

02:23:15.360 barbara so we'll see state income tax is pretty brutal though so um have you ever been to the south

02:23:21.040 just out of curiosity uh no i've been florida is florida the south well what about like the

02:23:29.040 panhandle the panhandle is kind of no but i was i was only in uh like the miami-ish area okay that's

02:23:36.240 not the south really but uh come to vegas dude yeah yeah it's not new la listen it is not all partying

02:23:44.560 it is not all oh my god you gotta go all the time like there's so much to do in vegas yeah i've been

02:23:50.160 to vegas plenty so you know i've worked there for a little bit but uh well for some uh for some

02:23:56.400 video gigs a long time ago um we have fally in response to motorsports comment and feel free to

02:24:02.000 correct me if you're in a relationship having single friends is fine watch out for the friends

02:24:06.240 who make it obvious they're jealous or annoyed of the relationship that's projecting not healthy

02:24:11.920 good point there yeah thank you very much man really appreciate it there fally okay let's get into

02:24:17.520 our pre-show notes that you guys were so kind oh we have the thing to react to let's do that

02:24:21.840 um this is a this is a doozy guys this is a good one nick could you pull up that reddit post

02:24:26.400 nope nope um it's this it was like the second to last one that i showed you

02:24:42.160 oh sorry oh that's weird yeah sometimes it's weird like that um can you scroll it out one

02:24:50.400 or actually yeah that's fine so this is posted to reddit um i'm unsure if i should tell my boyfriend

02:24:57.600 this information maybe actually let's have uh can i have you read this yeah because it's a woman so i

02:25:03.440 figure it's better in a woman's voice i'm unsure if i should tell my boyfriend this information i've

02:25:07.040 recently gone official with the man i've been dating for a couple of months he's kind respectful

02:25:11.120 and considerate i really think he could be the one but something is eating at me i wanted to build

02:25:16.720 slowly with this man but we didn't become intimate until after the until after going exclusive but

02:25:22.640 between the first day and that point i did see an old fwb a couple of times back then i didn't think

02:25:29.680 anything of it as i wasn't exclusive but i underestimated how much i could care for my

02:25:34.000 boyfriend and i feel almost like i've cheated on him have i done something wrong do i need to tell him

02:25:40.160 will he end things with me update there was mixed reactions here but my gut told me i should tell

02:25:45.680 my boyfriend he said sorry i don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that then he

02:25:50.800 blocked me on everything rip okay tough luck bitch yeah that's valid it fucked up yeah so she was starting

02:25:59.120 to date a guy she wanted to wait to have sex said wanted to take it slow i guess she really liked this

02:26:05.120 guy but while she was taking it slow with this guy she was hooking up having sex with like a friends

02:26:12.400 old friends with benefits um so what do you guys think was she and also uh maybe we know she told us

02:26:22.480 she gave us an update on the outcome it sounds like he ended up breaking up with her she told him um

02:26:28.640 um do you think she was wrong for doing what she did start actually maybe start the other way maybe

02:26:37.760 we start this or but i want rhino to go last on this probably so we'll start with her we'll start

02:26:44.800 we'll go this way let's do that yeah i don't think what she did was necessarily right i think if you

02:26:50.240 like someone you're like technique like you're gonna be loyal to them like if you're going and like

02:26:55.520 especially because she wasn't intimate with him but she was intimate with someone else

02:26:59.600 i think is interesting um yeah i don't think what she did was right what about you um i agree i don't

02:27:06.160 think what she did was right and she was the one who wanted to take things slow you said right she was

02:27:11.520 the one yeah she wanted to take things slow so yeah it was kind of like her personal opinion to

02:27:17.840 take things slow but she's also like getting with someone at the same time so i just think that's

02:27:21.680 very disrespectful sure um i think what she did was wrong honestly at least from my like perspective

02:27:28.480 like when i like actually like someone like my eyes literally cannot be turned and it's just like i

02:27:33.920 could even like see myself let alone do something like that with somebody else so i don't think she

02:27:38.560 clearly liked him that much in the beginning to have done that with someone else yeah i agree i think what

02:27:43.200 what she did was absolutely wrong um they weren't in an open relationship though right that wasn't

02:27:50.240 part of the text we didn't get any context from that they're just talking they're just right they

02:27:54.560 were they were not exclusive they were i mean each other yeah they started seeing each other um but

02:28:00.640 it seemed like she had a she saw this guy's hey this is potential boyfriend long-term potential

02:28:06.320 here seemed like she really liked him so she wanted to wait it's not it's not clear from the message

02:28:12.000 if uh they had a overt uh conversation about

02:28:19.840 exclusivity yeah i mean i still think her but she did say i want to wait to have sex so i think

02:28:28.880 what she did was wrong like okay apparently simple yeah julia yeah i agree okay i agree but i feel like

02:28:36.880 during the point where she did that she should have like communicated with him and had the

02:28:42.720 conversation be like hey like is this something like we're doing like are we able to see other

02:28:47.680 people and since she didn't have that conversation i think it was wrong yeah no i agree i agree like

02:28:55.200 partly with you but at the same time like if you care like about somebody enough to want to wait

02:29:00.400 then they're like what's the point of just going back to like whatever that was you know right

02:29:05.360 yeah she fucked up yeah i think she probably wanted to like you know save a body you know so she was

02:29:09.600 fucking this other guy but like she fucked up so okay yeah she's run the wrong yeah definitely because

02:29:14.800 i think at least i i feel like even though even though there was no actual i mean i'm assuming here

02:29:21.600 there was no actual conversation that occurred like we're gonna be exclusive during this period i think a lot

02:29:28.640 of people think if there's if you're not exclusive that that just means anything goes

02:29:34.640 but uh i think if you tell a guy hey i want to wait to have sex he's probably gonna assume you're

02:29:42.640 not sleeping yeah it's implied yeah for sure you're sort of implied i mean you're working towards the

02:29:48.000 relationship definitely she's like loopholing it yeah on a technicality like well technically we weren't

02:29:53.680 but uh i feel like they should have had more like a more in-depth conversation if that's

02:29:57.760 something she wanted to do but i don't agree with she found a loophole she knew what the

02:30:01.280 fuck yeah they were gonna get into a relationship they weren't exclusive they weren't exclusive like

02:30:05.920 no bitch yeah she fucked up she knew what she was doing yeah i i think the part that's obviously

02:30:10.080 gonna bother people the most in this situation in this situation is that she said she wanted to

02:30:15.600 build slowly and not rush into anything exactly and therefore held off on sexual activity

02:30:21.680 while having sex with a friends with benefits at the same time then i think yeah it was a hypocrite yeah

02:30:27.280 so uh okay all right uh do you have any thoughts on that like how would you feel in that situation

02:30:33.600 i mean yeah i think she shouldn't have snitched on herself if she wanted if she liked him that much

02:30:39.040 um but i guess it saved him heartbreak in the long run but i i thought that was a funny concept where

02:30:44.960 girls are like i want to take this guy serious so i'm not gonna have sex with him but then the guys

02:30:49.840 that they don't like they'll be getting raw dogged at the foam cannon party and i'm like why like if you

02:30:58.640 the guy that you don't like you're letting hit and then the guy that you do like has to wait i always

02:31:04.240 and i've heard that so many times and i don't know if any of the ladies have an answer to that

02:31:08.720 why would why do you make a guy that you actually like wait but then let the other guy smash you at the

02:31:14.320 the foam cannon party because we want them to respect us because we want respect okay i think

02:31:20.880 like they already fucked up with the other guy you know what i mean and they're like okay like

02:31:26.240 this is already a body like he's already fucked me but i want this guy to respect me and like me so

02:31:32.080 they're gonna make them wait but i i think you were more so coming at it from why this different

02:31:38.720 standard like the guy wouldn't you almost want to reward the guy who you think is like long-term

02:31:45.120 potential and that's it shouldn't that be the guy that you want to sleep with not the

02:31:50.080 douchebag dickhead fuck boy that is fucking other chicks and doesn't give a doesn't care about you at

02:31:55.360 all yeah that's like that's who gets that's who gets women like to be treated like shit and then

02:32:02.720 oh women let's say that women like to be treated like shit i think so yeah i think a lot of women

02:32:06.640 like i mean i'm really a little older but i think i don't know if i've really ever gone through that

02:32:12.880 but i do think some women like to almost like earn their love like how she said like when it was bad

02:32:18.480 it was really bad but then when he rewarded her and he was nice to her it's like oh you know like

02:32:22.720 she felt so fulfilled and she felt good about herself okay yeah i think a lot of women like that's

02:32:27.840 like a little bad boy face like yeah a lot of women go through it i i this is maybe a little pro

02:32:34.160 tip for the girls like if you like a guy never tell them that you had a whole phase or you yeah

02:32:41.280 i had a few one night stands like one or two and then you make the guy you like here on the date but

02:32:46.400 we're gonna wait you know i want us to be more serious because then the the guy's gonna feel like

02:32:52.320 they got to pay full price for something that another guy got for free yeah yeah so the other

02:32:58.080 guy got you for it took him 15 minutes and like a mimosa and he got to hit and i gotta buy you

02:33:05.200 dinners and do this so do you think he's so do you think she should lie yeah no no but what if

02:33:10.800 but like what if like you're in a small like you know you're in a small town like people are gonna

02:33:14.400 talk you know he's gonna eventually well that it could come out that is the danger with that but

02:33:18.400 wouldn't you rather know the truth sure maybe you really like this chick but i'd rather have the red

02:33:23.600 pill give me the red pill so then i can make a decision and i mean if it's the case that she

02:33:29.840 has a past then later i i guess i'm like an ignorance is bliss type of person because i don't

02:33:35.840 want to obviously yes i would like to know ideally if i'm talking to a girl please tell me if you got

02:33:40.800 a train ran on you please but i guess i'm trying to give them a pro tip no but i don't think i obviously

02:33:48.240 so i i i think the angle you're coming from is you're telling them this will be the most effective

02:33:54.400 thing that you can do to get the guy yes correct no it is it is but you're lying in the process and

02:34:02.880 i think i mean me as a guy i'd rather just i'd like to know that way i can opt out yeah yeah i agree

02:34:10.560 yeah i think i'm the advice i'm giving i wouldn't want the girl to lie to me

02:34:15.680 oh well i'm i'm i'm like being like uh i'm being a traitor currently oh you're giving them

02:34:22.320 game uh-huh you're giving them game yeah okay gotcha next time but it will back like if a girl lies

02:34:28.560 and then you hear through the grapevine that she actually that's not the case then that's like

02:34:37.120 that's makes you love her less oh that's that's a breakup yeah what like like oh listen yeah your

02:34:44.080 girl ran a train on her with 10 other dudes she's different now she's different now she's

02:34:49.040 reform she didn't remember it so it didn't happen she wants you to wait okay she's been celibate for

02:34:53.840 a year her vagina closed up a little bit you know she loves you i have a i have a question for the

02:34:58.720 girls here and i'll know please be honest with this have you ever been hooking up with a guy

02:35:04.480 while talking to another guy and you're making the other guy wait while you're hooking up with another

02:35:11.200 guy a couple sneaky links here it's possible don't worry your secrets are safe with me and

02:35:19.600 no one's gonna see this no yeah you're fine nobody's you're fine yeah yeah it's like it's okay small

02:35:26.000 it's fine it's fine no one was no i don't know stop the cap

02:35:33.280 um i yeah i haven't i mean it's you know one of the things that i find difficult with that

02:35:42.000 conversation though is on one hand like let's say a girl her previous her she had 30 previous sexual

02:35:49.520 partners she slept with all of them on the first night and then finally she's like maybe she looks

02:35:54.640 at it maybe i shouldn't do that and then she turns a new leaf and she changes her standard on one hand it's

02:36:00.480 like we ought to applaud her for trying to take things a bit more seriously but i also would still

02:36:08.400 like i'm not gonna just say okay we'll continue like just casually fucking a bunch of dudes like

02:36:15.440 good for you you're like maturing i guess but also if i encountered a girl who like the last 30 she

02:36:22.640 fucked 30 dudes all of them immediately and then she wants me to wait till marriage

02:36:29.920 look it's your that's 100 your choice but i'm i'm gonna feel like i'm gonna feel like i'm getting

02:36:35.440 scammed a little bit so i'm gonna just be like okay i don't want to talk to you yeah so so what if she

02:36:41.120 but what if she fucked you right away then would it be fine you just be upset if she made you wait

02:36:45.680 well like all the rest of them yeah no but i i wouldn't it's it is a difficult position because

02:36:50.880 like what do you tell a girl okay well because you've done that in your past now you just have

02:36:55.360 to continue for the rest of your life being a slut like you can never go back i mean it's tough but

02:37:01.600 it's hard at the same time as a guy i would feel like i would feel almost like i'm getting played a

02:37:07.360 little bit like okay because i mean i would feel as if either you're just i don't know it's hard for

02:37:14.880 me to articulate maybe you do not feel good enough i'd feel like she didn't have like a burning

02:37:21.040 genuine desire for me she didn't have genuine desire like she did for the other men i think

02:37:25.600 she she views me and like i'm the i'm gonna be the safe provider guy that she settles for and i'm

02:37:30.560 gonna be the pay pig wallet dude and it's like no i don't want that not that i would do that to begin

02:37:35.680 with but um here's like maybe the reverse scenario because i do think it's the case that women

02:37:41.920 generally speaking tend to care a little bit less about male promiscuity or male body count so i

02:37:47.680 think some women do not saying that they can't or don't but i think they generally speaking care less

02:37:51.920 and there's a couple reasons for that but here's a couple scenarios so thoughts on the situation

02:37:56.880 on the scenario you've been in the situation ship with a guy for six months you really like him you

02:38:01.680 want him to commit to you but he says he likes to take things slow somehow you find out that the

02:38:08.640 last three girls he had a committed relationship with he initiated the commitment conversation

02:38:14.000 after only three weeks of dating how does that make you feel you're not the one he's not that into

02:38:21.200 you no i think men know pretty quickly like who they want to commit to if they like you wait okay do

02:38:28.880 you guys have any thoughts on that like dislike you'd feel this type of way about it i don't think he's

02:38:33.120 the one either yeah okay but maybe he turned a new leaf and he wants to buy okay maybe here's a

02:38:40.240 different one here's a different one your boyfriend um he's had the same job for 10 years

02:38:48.640 well i mean he's he you know same job so his income has stayed the same he's he's had

02:38:55.120 sorry he's had he's had no radical changes in his income um you've been dating him for

02:39:01.760 instagram you've been dating him for six months and uh he doesn't really like get you he doesn't

02:39:10.560 get you gifts doesn't buy you anything you go 50 50 on dinner no vacations let's say you've been

02:39:18.240 dating let's say you've been dating him for two years actually no vacations no gifts really um

02:39:24.800 let's see what else uh doesn't really take you on dates that often maybe occasionally but not that

02:39:29.280 often and he kind of wants to do 50 50 whatever you find out that his past three girlfriends he

02:39:36.480 would like he would cover pay for everything he would take them on trips he would buy them gifts

02:39:42.320 get them jewelry all this stuff always paying for dates how would you how do you feel about i wouldn't

02:39:49.600 ever date a guy that would do that in the first place do what do we are doing 50 50 all the time

02:39:56.400 barely giving me gifts you wouldn't oh you don't want i wouldn't i wouldn't be in that relationship

02:40:01.600 to begin with but what if he like lost his job and he couldn't do oh well like that's desperate

02:40:06.880 times uh yeah if we were already in love and like he did that like i would understand oh okay so you

02:40:12.880 would not do 50 50 no okay well let's say it wasn't 50 50 he was like paying for dates but like he never

02:40:19.760 bought you gifts never took you on trips but all his ex-girlfriends you find out every couple months

02:40:25.920 hawaii uh tulum wherever the people boyfriends take their girlfriends i don't fucking know um

02:40:32.400 getting her gifts here's a necklace here's a i don't know what purse dude i think it's a l for

02:40:40.000 dudes to be buying actually okay but that's another conversation you could take it as like two different

02:40:44.480 ways right you could take it as they were trying so hard to keep this prize the previous girlfriends

02:40:50.560 were the prize he was trying so hard to keep them maybe they were out of his league he was like i need

02:40:54.800 to shower them with gifts and everything right and this girl this girl's within his league this

02:40:59.360 girl is comfortable so now he feels like shit i can relax a little bit i can take a step back i know

02:41:05.040 she ain't going nowhere i don't want to be that girl yeah yeah why would you want to be the girl that

02:41:11.520 doesn't get any of the the one that he's settling for yeah like yeah it's just settling that's the

02:41:17.200 thing it's like well you don't want to be the one you want to be like special not yeah it almost

02:41:21.520 feel like he doesn't like you as much as he did his ex-girlfriend yeah and that's kind of how we

02:41:26.560 feel when a woman will have sex really quick with one guy and then say okay we're gonna wait three

02:41:34.160 months but sex is not flying someone out all the time yeah going on dates man it could be i mean

02:41:39.440 it could be it's transactional to for a lot of men yeah sex is transactional at the end of the day

02:41:44.160 it's not i i'm not trying to make a necessarily a comparison in that regard what i'm trying to say

02:41:49.760 is in the same way that he was he was doing certain things with his ex he's not doing with you you were

02:42:00.400 doing certain things with your exes or with other guys that you're not doing with him

02:42:06.640 yeah it's understandable but do you not think like as a man do you not think like waiting for sex

02:42:16.080 like i don't know doesn't make the relationship more special like what are you saying so you could

02:42:21.600 fuck someone on the first night and like okay i could still make her my absolutely yep you wouldn't

02:42:25.360 think you wouldn't think of her as like yo this slut she fucked on the first date well there's other

02:42:28.960 i think there's much better indicators than the rapidity with which a woman sleeps with you

02:42:35.600 when it comes to her potential promiscuity her body count um i mean as speaking from my own

02:42:42.000 experience i've had multiple long-term relationships either two-year relationship five-year relationship

02:42:46.320 a couple other ones um it was all ryan's lost some donated 100 how about this scenario ladies

02:42:54.640 you're in a relationship with this stream guy for say five years now and you're hoping he proposes

02:43:00.720 you guys break up you find out he has a new partner that he has proposed to only after a year

02:43:06.880 or dating how would you feel like shit awful dog shit yo brian's lost son thank you i kind of related

02:43:15.680 to this one there's a there's this uh it's very similar your boyfriend of five years has yet to

02:43:19.840 propose to you he tells you he wants to take things slow and he's he isn't ready yet you find out that he

02:43:25.200 proposed to his previous two ex-girlfriends after just nine months of dating you're not the one

02:43:30.080 you're you're not the one men will know within the first six months of a relationship if they want to

02:43:34.640 be with you forever that's i'm sorry but it's like you're not the one yeah and to women if you're

02:43:39.440 watching this like if you're with a guy for an extended period of time and there's no commitment

02:43:43.920 there sorry sis like sorry i'm so sorry like you gotta either it's gotta happen or it ain't it ain't

02:43:50.240 gonna happen i'm so sorry he's just um he's single right so anybody trying to

02:43:58.160 um okay so oh to bring it back to uh i mean all my long-term relationships we hooked up relatively

02:44:05.200 quickly second second hangout my third hangout wait what's that that's you two yes no wait say

02:44:14.320 with your chest uh yeah yeah i mean yeah like like you said there's other i have been with some

02:44:24.320 women where i'm like i know she's a 304 and i just you just know that there's certain things i can make

02:44:30.480 a whole laundry list of things but then there are women who are extremely uh they don't toss it out

02:44:38.080 but then did stuff early but that doesn't mean that i guess you're able to tell if oh well i

02:44:44.080 really just wooed her over and she respects herself and this is just a beautiful thing we're having

02:44:49.600 uh versus oh yeah she just tosses this out there's ways that guys can determine that and all my long-term

02:44:57.120 relationships like we were doing it pretty quickly can you share some of the ways that guys can figure it

02:45:03.600 out so for the ladies at the table can you know can you give the secrets yeah some insight yeah if

02:45:09.120 she goes partying and clubbing three to four yeah the partying is a big one that's a typically can be

02:45:17.760 an indicator not guaranteed not guaranteed that's julia okay but i feel like everyone in ivy and santa

02:45:25.920 barbara definitely go out like every weekend i don't know there's some stem girls that be

02:45:31.360 some okay how are you 21 yeah oh yeah i mean every 21 year old is you know raging yeah yeah

02:45:41.840 most i think most there's some nerdy there's some nerdy introverted chicks that would

02:45:46.800 not be caught dead what if like i mean would you rather not like have her get out of her system

02:45:52.480 right now like what if the nerdy stem girl like you know a year in your relationship

02:45:55.440 she's like yo i never fucking live my life like i want to go and yeah and she's always

02:45:59.120 crazy yeah i want to go party i want to go out nah she resents you you want to be her first wait uh

02:46:05.040 hold on the energy donated 99 dollars thank you rhino is a major l captain

02:46:12.000 why would you give women advice to lie about getting ranty hr you do not lie and don't get a train ran on

02:46:18.400 your 304 asses trying to get saved she want to get saved i ain't gonna save her

02:46:25.200 that's some number 304 streets number eight at 18. yo that was some lp that was that was some

02:46:32.880 fucking poetry there right now in addition to um a woman uh you recommended they lie about

02:46:43.520 what again i was saying if they if a woman finds herself in a position where

02:46:48.320 she found a guy like that she does not want to lose i'm just saying what would be in her best

02:46:53.200 interest but i but women will got will lie regardless if i tell them to or not so it's

02:46:57.360 not like i'm giving away some secret sauce really women are going to withhold their body

02:47:02.480 count numbers and say oh yeah i didn't get toaster strudel like they're you know they're going to

02:47:09.200 keep those things you mean cream pie you mean you mean twinkie twinkie not a twinkie because it's on

02:47:15.760 the top yeah but but you said i didn't get but most women get toaster strudel not a lot of women get

02:47:20.080 twinkie wait what are we i get it we're all in the same wavelength there and that's what i'm saying

02:47:26.400 if a girl likes a guy a lot don't let them know that you did that but they do that anyway yeah

02:47:31.600 girls would do that anyway so i mean but toaster strudel isn't is that when the guy is that bad

02:47:37.680 no no no that's like on your like stomach yeah oh i'm sure just like giving intimate details about

02:47:43.600 your sexual history yeah i think that's just pretty much what he's saying yeah not like you're going in

02:47:48.000 too much no i wouldn't want like when i say like if i i'd rather have the red pill i don't need her to

02:47:54.800 in great detail recount like the like the details of her sexual experience but like she's got a high

02:48:03.120 body count i'd like to know yeah if she's done a fucking gang bang please tell me if the entire

02:48:11.200 division three football team talked to you i'd like to know please damn not even d1 yeah d3 it's

02:48:17.120 you're gonna look d3 is that santa barbara is d is santa barbara called division three we don't have

02:48:22.960 a football team yeah no there's a football team really yeah see you don't even know what's division

02:48:28.720 three you don't even know yeah wait okay so we were talking about like how quickly yeah how can how you

02:48:36.000 can tell was that what yeah i mean there's various factors although to be fair there are some very

02:48:41.760 unassuming women who might be a bit more shy a bit more quiet a bit more introverted they got

02:48:47.440 some skeletons in their closet so sometimes there's no way to know yeah there's no way to

02:48:53.760 know i think i think the big hmm there's certain indicators like just like puts yourself in doggy

02:49:00.880 position in a very confident way it's like okay i'm kidding okay hold on but in like a good doggy

02:49:06.640 position or like in a like i don't know how to arch my back and i'm kind of struggling doggy

02:49:10.720 position you know it's like oh i've never done this before and then she's just like full arch

02:49:16.000 and yeah i mean that's not fair though i mean a girl can get skills in having had one long-term

02:49:22.640 relationship but but uh the girl could get skills by doing yoga word just saying you know yeah

02:49:32.400 how did where were i don't know what were we on um i forgot um i got some notes here uh let's see

02:49:40.560 oh i think we were talking about that girl with uh telling her boyfriend um uh let's see uh

02:49:49.840 okay uh maybe we i think we're all caught up on that i had a question here for everybody

02:49:54.640 do you guys think men only want one thing

02:50:02.320 i mean what's no what's pussy she's saying do you think all men all we want is pussy no no no not all

02:50:10.880 men most men like most men most men but not all men okay that's a good way most men it's a really

02:50:17.200 good one and if they get something more they just got lucky oh they got they got lucky if they get

02:50:22.400 more than pussy no like if it like turns into a relationship it's not because they were like

02:50:25.840 looking for that it just so happened that they really connected well oh okay i see i think deep

02:50:30.480 down men are also looking for a sense of security in their partner a partner that provides them with

02:50:36.480 security just as much as he's gonna provide her with a sense of protection and security they want

02:50:41.680 that reciprocated sure hundred percent sophia sophie excuse me what do you think do guys do you think

02:50:49.120 all guys want is pussy um maybe right off the bat it it's i don't know it depends okay i don't think all

02:51:00.400 guys no most guys most guys just want this okay uh what about you yeah i feel like i'm like with

02:51:10.080 like the team on this one most guys kind of just want like pussy it could evolve i mean yeah maybe

02:51:14.880 it's just because we live in santa barbara but yeah it's like a trend among like college students at

02:51:19.440 least maybe like when you're older all the men here have pussy on their minds like that yeah like you can

02:51:24.080 if you like walk through like a party all you see is literally people like mac in life yeah yeah and

02:51:29.360 you know where they're going after that yeah so age age is i think definitely age plays a factor

02:51:35.040 in that you know as they get older maybe they're ready to settle down and then that changes and

02:51:38.880 maybe they're looking for something more serious now they still want pussy maybe both yeah i mean at

02:51:46.320 least for me pussy is definitely not all i want unless that's all you got oh okay all right

02:51:54.720 it's a quote yeah i think more men want love than like what they realize i think a lot of men that

02:52:00.240 like haven't experienced like that genuine connection love from a woman probably like oh

02:52:04.160 yeah fuck these bitches you know i just want pussy but once they've experienced that like i think a lot

02:52:09.200 of men like oh wow you know like the love from a woman is yeah it's different honestly my view is i

02:52:15.360 think women that all you want is d no god no sometimes men want sometimes we just want to

02:52:21.600 can't we just talk yes we can always just talk yes like you guys i feel objectified all you girls

02:52:29.360 all you want is to have sex and sometimes i just want to talk i just want to call like oh and you

02:52:34.560 just treat me like a piece of meat it's really weird it's rude women do do that yes yeah yeah

02:52:40.400 i feel yeah i feel objectified i feel used sorry i feel used all huh i think something i think the

02:52:48.080 roles are like slowly reversing i think like women are like i'm kind of joking but no no no but i but i

02:52:54.320 i really genuinely think that i think i wrote that to you that i think the roles are kind of reversing

02:52:58.880 yeah let's get into this i'm gonna try to get through some of our pre-share notes that you guys

02:53:02.320 provided so starting with jessica oh i think we kind of already went over this um you said you

02:53:10.240 you uh wait i made his life a living hell after and told because he he was with some

02:53:17.680 underage that's i mean i can't like uh accuse him of them being fully underage considering he was

02:53:23.920 like only about to turn 18 so like he was also under it i mean that's he was technically but it's

02:53:29.200 just like weird because the girls don't validate it yeah but you said you made his life a living

02:53:34.960 hell so like what did you post on bulletin board yeah i did actually wait you printed out like his

02:53:40.320 face i no no i like posted on tiktok and it like got really popular and like people were just like

02:53:47.680 dogging on him left and right and then like i was really upset with him so i like befriended some of

02:53:52.800 the befriended means like became friends with right okay yeah uh became friends with some of the girls

02:53:56.960 that go to his private christian school and he went to school 45 minutes away and i literally

02:54:01.520 showed up to his volleyball game and he his face like turned white as a ghost when i showed up and

02:54:07.040 he literally walked out of the game yeah so yeah do you feel like you got your sense of satisfaction

02:54:13.600 by doing that unfortunately yes because that just made it blow up even more do you feel like when you

02:54:19.040 did that you thought about the other girls that were involved like the younger girls that they're like

02:54:23.520 oh shit like people knew i was involved with this man now it's gonna come back on me it's it honestly

02:54:29.920 is so embarrassing thinking about it like 100 but honestly like those girls like they're all really

02:54:36.640 brandon males donated 99 hey brandon thank you man i can't speak for all men but when it comes to myself

02:54:43.120 i'm looking to be able to rest my head on my women at night someone i can connect to the average day

02:54:49.680 week or year is so difficult for men you couldn't imagine we just want to be loved

02:54:56.320 i agree men just want to be loved i think everyone does i think everyone has that goal

02:55:00.880 i feel like the best thing a woman can do for her man is when he comes home ask him how his day was

02:55:05.760 how was your day what happened like talk to me about it men are so like high strung and they don't

02:55:11.040 want to talk like just yeah talk have that sense of security you're like no i don't want to talk about

02:55:16.800 anything why why why not why not is that weak it's not weak it is not no i'm asking yeah yeah

02:55:24.800 well no it's not i mean it's more so just like uh what's that saying i think silence is golden

02:55:31.600 i think that's how it goes but is it i don't need like talk about my day i've already like i don't

02:55:38.720 really i don't want to talk about i spend so much time at work doing work i don't really want to tell

02:55:43.760 you about it why not that's just i'm rehashing my i'd rather just like chill and kick it okay i

02:55:51.200 mean that's depends on the situation but it's like what if you had a bad day at work and it's eating

02:55:54.960 at you inside and you just want to you just want to talk about it bury that shit deep with within deep

02:56:00.000 inside and let it blow up three months from now that's what i want to do damn dude therapy

02:56:06.880 therapy therapy no no it's just like well okay i mean and i'm kind of being a little facetious with

02:56:13.680 that but um i think one of the differences between men and men and women is me talking about my issues

02:56:21.680 or difficulties doesn't typically resolve them so i see from a purely utilitarian almost i'm probably

02:56:30.240 somewhat on the spectrum i'm probably autistic me talking about my issues does nothing to resolve them

02:56:35.280 so why would i feel like it's just to me it's a waste of time to talk about my problems have you

02:56:40.000 tried doing that and it didn't work no it just makes me more upset because then i'm thinking about

02:56:44.400 it and i'm like i'm rethinking about the thing that made me upset and i'm i'd rather just try to like

02:56:52.400 to me if if there is no solution then it's it's a situation i either have to accept or try to fix

02:57:00.000 but talking to somebody about my issues does not fix my issues women love to fix

02:57:07.280 shit so maybe we can help you maybe just haven't found the right one yeah well okay but typically

02:57:12.560 if there's a solution to something like an actual solution something that i can do to fix the

02:57:18.560 but something shitty happened i don't really like feel like talking about it it doesn't help me resolve

02:57:23.600 it why why are you on like that's just no that's that makes me sad because it's like everyone should

02:57:28.080 you know feel better when they're coming home at the end of the day like but but dumping onto you the

02:57:33.440 difficult things in my life does i i personally it don't it just almost re talking about past

02:57:42.480 bullshitteries doesn't make me feel good but it makes you feel better like knowing you're not going

02:57:47.760 through it alone like hey babe like obviously dumping is you know kind of negative all the time

02:57:53.280 but just like oh this problem happened you know hey your girl can kind of offer solutions or just be

02:57:58.880 there for you but talking she can be there for me but like having to articulate the things the

02:58:05.840 difficult things that i'm dealing with when it comes to work or like something else uh that's not

02:58:10.480 particularly appealing to me because it's my view is it's either something that i can try to solve or i

02:58:16.960 can't there's no point in talking about it what if you can brainstorm i mean i'm i feel like i have

02:58:23.680 a solution i mean i'd probably like when it comes to a professional thing i'd probably i've i have a

02:58:28.880 couple male friends that i i take their counsel and i'd probably maybe like if i'm really man i don't

02:58:35.840 know what to do here i might talk to my girl about it but that's not really i yeah i don't feel the need

02:58:41.520 to talk to her about it you don't think men should come to women with their problems they can just me

02:58:46.240 personally i i don't like talking about my if if i needed advice on the situation maybe i bring it

02:58:53.360 to her maybe i bring it to some trusted male friends that i have that i respect their counsel but

02:59:00.480 if i i would never want to just vent is that the word women get off to that like when

02:59:06.640 you're venting to us oh my god that is the sexiest thing i'm calling capital no no literally that is a

02:59:12.640 sex like that makes me feel like wow you trust me i'm gonna give you some head tonight what the yeah

02:59:20.800 oh talking about things over i guess it sometimes doesn't help but for anyone like chat saying it's

02:59:25.440 cringe or beta to just want love are too chronically online there's a reason men's uh deletion rate is so

02:59:31.680 high uh yeah what rate deletion self-deletion rate um you know um no i just it's not it's not that i'm

02:59:44.080 just not going to talk to you about things but i'd rather i've already dealt like i don't want to go

02:59:49.840 deal with the stressful components of work and then re-litigate them with you my partner i'd rather just

02:59:57.040 like oh let's have a chill night i don't want to tell you about my problems so so if you were to

03:00:02.320 come home and your girlfriend was like babe how was your day you're like don't even ask me about that

03:00:09.040 i mean i might just be like okay you know when you're in the drive-through line or like something

03:00:14.400 you're getting you're at the grocery store and the checkout person says oh how are you yeah and

03:00:18.480 you're having a dog shit fucking day yeah and you say oh i'm good okay that's how that

03:00:23.920 shit would be okay girl's not the lady of the grocery no but it's like no i know what you're

03:00:28.320 saying i know like what do you mean sure i know what you're saying that's how it feels for you

03:00:33.600 no i would probably just be like it was okay that's it but like isn't it like comforting almost

03:00:39.280 to like talk to like like say that like something shitty happened isn't it like almost if there was

03:00:43.760 a situation where i wanted advice on something yeah then i would tell her the situation if you were

03:00:48.000 just upset but no i wouldn't i wouldn't want to talk i don't like to uh it just makes me more

03:00:52.560 upset to just continue talking about it so i just i'd rather just not talk about it but honestly i

03:00:57.040 feel like most problems like if you if you think about most of the problems you've had in your

03:01:00.720 entire life a week later do you still give a fuck no true so a lot of the problems that we think are

03:01:07.680 a big deal don't really matter so i don't feel the need to like re-litigate them with my girlfriend

03:01:12.640 and be all butthurt let's just chill kick it if it's a really big thing maybe i'll tell you but

03:01:18.080 now are you the type of person to come home and ask your girlfriend how her day was

03:01:23.600 or do you not want to hear about it yeah god damn it i don't get wow that's what reuben's

03:01:29.920 relationship i might just be like hey how are you i'll say how are you do you talk about like

03:01:34.320 just yeah like you don't tell her about your problem she's gonna tell you about yours like

03:01:38.800 what what is this relationship you can't even be open and vulnerable with each other but i i'd much

03:01:43.120 rather just like having a chill no but like yeah we talked about talk about the weather oh let's

03:01:47.920 talk about this grid one motorsports donated 100 my wife made me such a better person it is hard

03:01:56.560 for others to understand i am not a nice person it takes massive effort for me to be the kind amiable

03:02:03.600 human people think i am it is all due to her aspire to that be better women respect honor obey

03:02:13.120 i mean i do think a good a good woman will like soften your heart in some ways in a good way not

03:02:18.720 like in a yeah fucking weak soy boy type of way but no but that's not what we're wanting we're just

03:02:24.640 wanting you to talk to us i was gonna interject and i was gonna say because i would disagree with

03:02:30.720 you or and maybe this is because i'm light-skinned and you're okay so i'm like a

03:02:37.280 i'm gonna draw i would say i'm like a drama queen so i what you said they're like oh don't you want

03:02:44.240 your girl to and rant to your girl and talk to him i have a natural inclination to want to do that

03:02:50.160 but then girls will often give guys this advice of we want you to be vulnerable and like open up to us

03:02:55.920 and i'm like yeah that sounds great but i found that and i can't put any studies on this but

03:03:03.680 women want like a captain they want if you're on a plane and you're a pilot's like i don't know

03:03:10.880 about this flight man like it's just been so hard flying and stuff you're subconsciously gonna be

03:03:18.400 if you're a passenger you're like oh should i get on this plane um so the same way happens if you're

03:03:25.280 in a relationship women want a leader so if you start opening up too much to your girl and being too

03:03:30.960 not vulnerable but giving too much drama too much oh woe is me work was so hard again today

03:03:40.000 like no i don't think women are asking men to be i don't think vulnerable is the right word i think

03:03:44.400 we're just asking like share a part of your day with us so we can feel even more connected to you

03:03:49.520 yeah i think that's what we want yeah i think men have to open up to their girls strategically

03:03:54.400 because if you start giving too much and like i love being a little spoon and i've loved doing

03:04:00.880 shit like that but then if i do one too many nights as a little spoon you know your girl's gonna start

03:04:06.000 thinking like damn this is kind of a fucking softy like i do think women could use it against you yes

03:04:11.200 and i've seen it like you know i think like women can like soften a man and it's almost like an ego

03:04:16.080 thing to a woman sometimes like all right gotcha bitch like look you're soft and look you're crying

03:04:20.400 and you're venting and i think you know the wrong woman can definitely use it against you so i do

03:04:25.520 think that's why some men are so hesitant about you know also opening up because yeah women like doing

03:04:30.320 the talking and the emotional stuff and the let's talk it out and be cutesy and then they'll turn their

03:04:35.680 man into someone that they then don't even respect anymore so the guy that they fell in love with

03:04:40.720 they've now turned him into a pillow pet and it's like yeah but good women won't do that

03:04:45.200 i think you'll still lose you'll still lose attraction yeah like but it's but it happens

03:04:49.840 on a subconscious level it's not like you're actively sitting there like no i don't like him

03:04:54.240 anymore because he complained about work today uh but again that's why i just tell people to do it

03:05:00.240 strategically yeah and i mean just going back really quick to my thing i like i don't want to

03:05:06.240 talk about my problems i want to solve them so if there is no solvable solution just someone was a

03:05:13.360 dickhead or i'm frustrated about something i really unless i can solve it i let it go i yeah

03:05:19.840 i'd rather just not even talk about it um when it comes to the vulnerability thing let's go around

03:05:25.760 the table on this from all the girls do you do you think it's a good thing for a guy to be vulnerable

03:05:31.040 do you think men should be more in touch with their emotions do you think men have an issue with that

03:05:36.880 you know men are not in touch with their emotions men have a difficulty being vulnerable yeah i think

03:05:43.920 men definitely have an issue being vulnerable but understandably so i think people use it against them

03:05:49.920 both men and women so i get why it could be really hard for men to open up but i definitely think

03:05:55.920 they should be more open and that's why i think it's important to have that safe space like a woman

03:06:00.160 yeah no i agree like i definitely think like being vulnerable is like it's pretty important but

03:06:06.720 there's also i think like a little bit of a point where being too vulnerable is like kind of an issue

03:06:12.800 you know but like at the same time we should be like kind of more in touch with like emotions and

03:06:17.840 when you're in a relationship at least be a little vulnerable i agree um i think it's important for them to

03:06:23.840 be pretty vulnerable or vulnerable to a certain extent and like not super closed off because i

03:06:31.280 don't know i feel like that could cause a lot of problems yeah yeah i feel like definitely in our

03:06:36.320 society men are forced to not be as vulnerable um and and that obviously sucks and i think that they

03:06:45.280 should be because and if you're like for an example if you're at work and you're like frustrated with

03:06:51.040 something and you come back and you talk to your girlfriend about it and you guys really digest

03:06:55.600 like what is going on like what is making you angry um it could be like literally something from

03:07:01.600 like your childhood trauma where you're just like oh that's why that makes me upset because i had to

03:07:07.440 deal with that growing up and then you kind of figure that out and then you can slowly learn how to

03:07:12.800 once you see what the problem is you can kind of learn how to work through it and work with it

03:07:18.240 i completely agree i mean i don't want my man to be a little bitch right like nobody wants that well

03:07:23.360 exactly but exactly but but here's the thing knowing how society is progressing nowadays i mean the exit

03:07:32.480 rate for man for you know man you straighten your mic a little bit here uh here yeah go ahead yeah the

03:07:40.080 eggs the exiting rate for a man is much higher than a woman because they don't get to talk about all

03:07:45.200 that it all gets built up i don't think it's because they're not talking about their feelings

03:07:49.680 i feel like i don't think that's the reason that's the suppression of it the suppression i feel like

03:07:55.680 yes i don't want my man to be a little bitch but i do want him at night to lay his head down on me

03:07:59.680 and be like i feel safe i my understanding and i i don't recall the exact quote on this but i think

03:08:09.280 so like if we're talking if we're referencing talk therapy my understanding is that talk therapy is

03:08:15.920 more effective for women than it is for men because i think men and women are different men and women

03:08:21.360 work through things differently so again i don't think men are deleting themselves at higher rates because

03:08:29.760 there's they're not talking about their problems but do you think i think they men are talking about

03:08:38.320 their problems and i think i gotta take this uh i think the reason that men are deleting themselves

03:08:44.320 is because nobody gives a fuck about their problems that's not true you find the right partner that person

03:08:52.240 will go to the ends of the earth for you they will they will be there with you yeah but okay well i mean

03:08:58.240 i'm talking more on the societal level but um you i agree that you don't want to open okay you guys

03:09:03.840 been dating for two weeks don't trauma dump don't do it but if you're at a place where you've been in

03:09:09.040 a relationship for a long time you're married you've been together for what 10 years talk to me about

03:09:15.440 your problems because if i don't know what's going on with you and something traumatic happens like

03:09:20.880 deleting yourself it's like that's a very specific thing i'm not like you know i think when we're

03:09:27.760 talking about being vulnerable and being open with our emotions we're not talking about like

03:09:33.360 we're not talking about that but i think we're talking about more like generalized things yeah i

03:09:41.680 mean yeah don't be a bitch in the first couple years first couple years i don't know don't be

03:09:46.320 a bitch you know okay yeah like here what about you go ahead um i honestly think i'd be offended if

03:09:51.840 they felt like they couldn't be vulnerable with me like not obviously like she said like it can't be

03:09:56.080 like dating for two weeks and be like like whatever but like if it's like you know like

03:10:00.320 we're like dating like we're boyfriend and girlfriend we're dating like i feel like you

03:10:04.880 should have every right to be vulnerable with your partner and i'd like i said would be upset if you

03:10:08.880 didn't feel like you could be okay and i would definitely think i was doing something wrong

03:10:14.400 um i think that it's a good thing that a man should be vulnerable but then i also feel like people are

03:10:21.200 so different and like some people thrive off getting other people's opinions and being able

03:10:25.600 to talk and like open up and listen to like what another person is saying but then other people thrive

03:10:30.160 off solving their own problems by themselves so i feel like everyone is different in that sense

03:10:34.000 hey nick um can you go into the uh podcast dropbox podcast videos folder there's a tick tock it's called

03:10:41.680 open up be vulnerable um we'll react to that it's related to this go ahead yeah i agree with her i think

03:10:48.560 that everyone has their own personal opinions and like react differently to situations some people

03:10:54.080 like to talk about some don't but i think it's important to be emotionally aware of how you are

03:10:59.840 because i think if something hits you and like you're not in tune with your emotions you tend

03:11:05.200 to like push your partner away or it affects your relationship because you're not able to like i guess

03:11:11.440 deal with it uh nick do you have it if you're able to pull it up yeah we don't we don't need no audio

03:11:17.840 no audio it's just some bullshit music

03:11:25.280 you can play it it's just her doing some dumb dance or something um i wanted this man to be

03:11:30.880 vulnerable with me for so long he finally called me yesterday and opened up but the second he started

03:11:35.760 crying i lost all interest in him quickly this is a safe space but not that safe that woman don't

03:11:42.160 love him she don't love the world no she's she's you can make sure to put the audio back on nick um so

03:11:49.200 i mean that's kind of the reality though when it comes to this topic um it's like you claim that you

03:11:57.200 guys want the vulnerability but when we're vulnerable at least in my experience i don't know in your

03:12:02.880 experience ryan there is tends to be i've noticed a palpable shift in the relationship i had one

03:12:10.960 experience where this girl was super into me and uh i was vulnerable in front of her within a immediately

03:12:19.440 we start having arguments immediately it just was like night and day she starts arguing with me things

03:12:26.480 start changing up um and within a month we broke up so i think a lot of women say they want to

03:12:37.200 like have a vulnerable guy but when a guy is vulnerable i think a lot of women will

03:12:42.080 whether on a conscious level or not they will end up punishing that vulnerability i mean it's a

03:12:46.400 two-way street right like is it i think you don't think it's a two-way street i feel like in a sense

03:12:52.720 of like you gotta be vulnerable with the right woman a woman that's still going to respect you

03:12:58.240 i think most like there's also this other uh

03:13:04.160 let me ask if you guys saw your boyfriend get into a fight with somebody and your boyfriend got

03:13:08.960 fucked up would you be a little like i mean maybe you'd take care of him but you'd be like a little

03:13:16.480 fucking turned off if you got fucking scorched in a fight hold on hold on go ahead answer

03:13:23.280 um i think that would be probably embarrassing for him so i'd want to make him like feel better and

03:13:27.840 like not he just got fucked like i mean i guess i get it like it's just embarrassing to see someone

03:13:40.000 lose a fight because it's like oh like then they're like getting up and they look all

03:13:43.920 fucked up and you're just like sophie what about you yeah it's a it's a little bit of um

03:13:49.840 yeah it's embarrassing that actually happened to me my we used to have like these fight nights in

03:13:54.640 our hometown my boyfriend participated in one of them he literally got thrown to the floor um

03:14:00.720 this is a cheating one and like it was definitely slightly embarrassing because like my whole high

03:14:04.880 school high school was there and everyone knew i was dating him but at the end of the day i still did

03:14:09.760 comfort him despite his loss but were you kind of like yes i was how what did you articulate it

03:14:16.560 though articulate it um well i i mean i was literally like hugging him like you're okay

03:14:22.160 but inside i was like oh like what are you doing like why are you putting yourself in this position

03:14:28.480 okay but not why are you fighting okay so you

03:14:33.120 yeah it's embarrassing that he put himself in the position not that he lost let me yes yeah yes okay i mean

03:14:39.440 that's a little bit different okay let me try to reframe this a little bit you're out with your

03:14:43.760 boyfriend at a party again here's another reason why you shouldn't go out partying some dude steps to

03:14:50.880 you and says some rude inappropriate remark do you look towards your boyfriend to intervene yeah do you

03:14:58.560 want him to either verbally confront him or maybe even physically confront him verbally verbally

03:15:04.480 i don't i think like he the other guy's drunk now it's starting to escalate to now a physical

03:15:10.240 confrontation your boyfriend gets scorched the fuck up and knocked out by the dude knocked out i

03:15:17.200 wouldn't date someone who like i want him to just be like like walk away like what but okay but when it

03:15:23.360 comes to like i this shit escalate can escalate very quickly especially if alcohol is involved so your

03:15:30.880 boyfriend okay yo what the don't don't touch my girlfriend blah blah blah and he's like what

03:15:36.000 bitch no no not to you like the guy the guy says it to your boyfriend and he and then they're take

03:15:43.280 their shirts off i just think it's a mature like i rather have like a mature guy who's like but this

03:15:48.000 isn't worth my take like let's just walk away like he's this guy's an idiot like why i'm not he might

03:15:52.720 not have the opportunity in a self-defense situation to walk away he gets decked in the face i'd rather him

03:15:57.360 not like get up and like start like i'd rather you wouldn't want him to defend himself well if

03:16:02.160 the guy kept trying to like i'd rather him what if what if your boyfriend was on the ground going

03:16:06.800 like that's even that wouldn't be a turn off damn i mean is her boyfriend like five foot nothing and

03:16:14.480 the man's like six two like what's going on here yeah i'm just saying like we there's this uh really

03:16:21.200 famous clip i don't know if you watch the joe rogan podcast where there was a mma fighter a female mma

03:16:26.560 fighter her boyfriend was an mma fighter and this was like a two uh fight and he was fighting this guy

03:16:34.240 do we do we have the clip hold on let me let me see if it's in the uh uh let me see

03:16:41.600 might be in the i'm just checking if we have it um

03:16:47.440 one sec here um

03:16:50.240 i thought we had it but i don't know if we do sorry guys just checking if we have the clip in

03:17:00.480 any case i'll just say so she's an mma fighter he's an mma mma fighter her boyfriend who she said

03:17:05.680 was a great fantastic guy gets knocked out and she's like ooh didn't like that and then she lost

03:17:11.920 attraction for him and broke up with him damn okay in a professional fight mind you where it's

03:17:16.880 like you know so that's that's up dude in a pro fight so it wasn't a street fight like you got

03:17:21.600 knocked out like professional fight yeah i mean that's a job oh uh we'll just watch a short portion

03:17:27.680 of it i guess sure why not and that look i'm not saying all women are like this but i mean i there's

03:17:37.280 enough to be like we don't know which type you are go ahead yeah oh audio audio audio you're probably

03:17:44.640 muted uh go ahead it's what it's not it doesn't bug me when somebody is just they have you know

03:17:53.200 a slender neck when they go through so much trouble has donated 99 dollars he should only be vulnerable

03:17:59.680 with the right woman she should only sleep with the right man sorry took a minute send on the stream

03:18:06.240 lapse yo d mice thank you very much man appreciate it uh word hey let's continue thank you man

03:18:10.880 appreciate it just they have you know a slender neck but when they go through so much trouble

03:18:15.920 to look like an alpha male right but they have that little chicken neck right and then they're

03:18:21.360 posing like they're that's gotta be a big issue with you like as a woman like the way you interact

03:18:27.600 with men as a world champion muay thai woman yeah i haven't figured that out you have to have a hard

03:18:33.520 time with the men i do i bet you do i do yeah yeah because you need to get a real one like a real

03:18:39.360 real one like that's the only way it's gonna work yeah it isn't no yeah imagine it's hard out there for

03:18:45.280 a pimp it is right so i had he's a great boyfriend but we went out of country we fought on the same card

03:18:56.480 he fought the day before me i fought the next day during the fight he almost gets knocked out

03:19:04.240 as this guy is mauling him he goes like this what do you think i was thinking

03:19:12.800 um not good thoughts the boyfriend the boyfriend my boyfriend like like this yeah you didn't like it

03:19:20.240 fuck no did it turn you off oh my god so much whoa i was like dude you're getting

03:19:25.760 fucked up and you drop you as you're falling to the canvas you kneel still need to go fuck you

03:19:30.240 you're like fuck you like that so the way he's getting beaten was fucking with you yeah it wasn't

03:19:37.600 just that he was getting beaten i don't care i don't know i don't care yeah i don't care if he wasn't

03:19:42.480 taking it you're not gonna yeah like you gotta fuck on like take that shit take it yeah like like

03:19:48.880 you know like a champ or like a like a fighter right yeah you can't be like wow

03:19:58.160 was that the beginning of the end yeah and he was a great first couple of nails he was great

03:20:03.360 top top top top top yes it was it was maybe sometimes it's like that's the problem

03:20:08.640 you can pause it great boyfriend great boyfriend so yeah i think that's different because like

03:20:15.120 that's in the world of fighting like she's a fighter and she's like yo go down like you know

03:20:19.280 with some fucking dignity like you're just like like i guess um because she even said like if he

03:20:25.440 came down if he went down like saying hey fuck you then you know it would have been different i guess

03:20:30.000 but look i think um somewhere deep in the lizard brain i feel i feel like you're gonna lose

03:20:38.160 attraction for a guy when he's vulnerable i can see that i think i honestly felt way more

03:20:44.640 when i finally got like i mean i only scratched the surface but when i finally got like a little

03:20:49.200 bit of like what was really going on like deep down and like from i felt like more connected to him

03:20:54.880 honestly like it did not turn me off at all like i was i felt like like he respected and felt safe with

03:21:01.840 me when he was telling me and like that made me feel good here i mean i i'll say this i think men

03:21:06.800 don't often share their feelings because they end up just upsetting their girlfriend or wife and

03:21:12.960 they're left to console her on her feelings because of how his feelings made her feel

03:21:22.320 i've had that should happen i don't know um i've had that happen too i think it's everyone doesn't

03:21:27.440 matter woman or man here let me ask you guys a question if you think it's important for men to be

03:21:33.120 vulnerable um would let's say a guy approaches you he's maybe he's a little nervous a bit shy

03:21:42.560 whatever um would you prefer that over a guy who just approaches you he's not being creepy but he's

03:21:48.880 a little his eye contact isn't great he's kind of a little nervous a little shy a little hesitation

03:21:54.240 in his voice a little shake in his voice would you prefer that or would you prefer a guy who just

03:22:00.560 steps to you in a very confident way um eye contacts on point steady voice which do you prefer

03:22:09.040 confident yeah 100 confident guy confident i like shy come on no it's like my new thing like i do not

03:22:18.480 like an outgoing boy that's how okay all right teach their own what about you i say confident

03:22:24.560 i say shy okay i would say that's fine i think most women would prefer the confident guy i mean

03:22:32.080 we how off it's like one of the biggest things women say they like in the guy is confidence right

03:22:36.640 um i don't think there's a corresponding thing in men where we like we particularly care like i think

03:22:41.920 it would actually be more attractive if the girl was a little bashful or a little shy little tail

03:22:46.880 tucked between the legs a little bit if she was approaching um and versus being like super mega

03:22:52.000 confident um but wouldn't can you make the argument that a guy approaching you in a kind of shy nervous

03:22:58.160 way that's him being vulnerable again he's not being creepy but he's not stepping to you into that

03:23:04.240 confident way but that's being vulnerable is that being vulnerable it is yeah because he's yeah he's a

03:23:10.000 little nervous he's a little scared he made the conscious choice to come and talk to you that's

03:23:15.280 already confidence right there well it's yeah right but i mean i gave you two scenarios one where the

03:23:21.520 guy is outwardly appears kind of nervous and shy about it versus the guy who's really confident

03:23:28.480 that's so different than like already being in a relationship with this person right and it is

03:23:32.560 different but like i think it it extends into the relate like that same component extends into the

03:23:38.400 relationship too i think obviously you want a guy to be confident in the relationship too

03:23:44.560 but like every you know like if they need to open up and be vulnerable like um yeah i don't know i

03:23:51.600 think it's an ego boost for women when a guy is a little shy because it makes us feel like oh my god

03:23:57.840 like you really like me huh you're shy you're shy around me i think most women would probably be turned

03:24:03.600 off if the guy was like that nervous women from their own words say that they like confident men

03:24:12.160 yeah i would say and just look generally speaking if you want the highest success rate like the confident

03:24:18.880 guy is going to win out in most situations um women are more attracted to that so you i think you only

03:24:27.360 want men to be vulnerable when it's convenient for for y'all no actually you want you want it on your

03:24:33.520 terms yeah oh okay all right there we go okay there's some consensus um let me see i'm trying to

03:24:42.640 think if there's anything else um related related to the vulnerability thing let me get us caught up

03:24:48.400 on a couple chats we have john galt here can you ask the girls of guy owning a gun is a positive deal

03:24:53.840 breaker or neutral also also would be cool to see destiny farah and virgin mary back on the show

03:24:58.960 enjoyed the episodes with them before actually we're going to have virgin mary on uh next week

03:25:02.880 john galt for two sunday tuesday so she's going to be uh pretty sure next week so she is finally

03:25:08.160 coming back i like her episodes she brings like a different twist yeah she's cool yeah oh you've seen

03:25:14.160 them yeah i've seen like one okay which one did you watch into the mic oh sorry um i'm trying to think

03:25:22.160 of like which one it was without like being mean because i don't know what it's called it doesn't

03:25:25.600 matter it's fine uh is there is this where i throw out the old don't hate the player hate the game

03:25:30.000 remember that men sort girls into three groups nope strippers girls named tiffany nurses good for

03:25:35.360 now or fun zone and wife potential elevate your game or invest in meomix word grid one i'm yeah exactly

03:25:45.040 nope strippers girls named tiffany tiffany why is that a bad name it's kind of a red flag oh really

03:25:54.560 speaking of red flags is tiffany like the name emily it's like isn't your name emily oh sorry ellie

03:26:00.960 sorry i got it it's kind of similar i feel like if a guy is named chad that's a red flag is that a red

03:26:08.880 flag chad brad or thad that what about chaz oh god even worse chaz reinhold oh geez chaz all right

03:26:20.480 we have sean evans good panel tonight brian to the panel what qualities do you think men are of value

03:26:25.840 actually look for in a woman he wants to commit to also brian no state income tax in texas yep america

03:26:31.520 state uh we'll go around the table uh what qualities do you think men of value actually

03:26:38.640 look for in a woman he wants to commit to we'll start with you go ahead i think someone that kind of

03:26:47.680 i don't know i would say just someone that equally benefit them as well like a give and take

03:26:52.720 um i think someone that is very helpful and cares for them a lot okay um probably someone that has like

03:27:05.520 drive i don't know like ambition in life and like goals i would say honestly a low body count would

03:27:12.160 probably be number one that's a good one men of value don't want women that have been ran through

03:27:17.840 and i don't know maybe people disagree but i think that for him that's like a huge thing but also a

03:27:24.480 woman who's going to respect him and ultimately obey him men of value want that based are you guys

03:27:33.200 down to obey your boyfriend do you disagree i yeah what about be submissive what do you think about

03:27:40.000 that word in in what context i think a woman should be submissive to her man okay well she's talking

03:27:49.040 she's talking about bdsm sexually oh are we talking like are you a rope bunny what are we talking about

03:27:55.920 here what was your what is what's your bdsm test.org score you can be submissive to your man no she knows

03:28:03.920 what i'm talking you can be submissive to your man like on the outside of your sexual relationship but

03:28:08.880 you can be the dominant one in the sexual relationship and it could work out are you

03:28:13.520 telling us something here me huh are you a dominatrix in your marriage oh my god no i'm so

03:28:21.040 boring okay i'm so boring okay well you said more dominant one so okay never mind we're not talking

03:28:27.920 about me right now are you dom in the bedroom no i think it's a push and pull i'm definitely not

03:28:34.240 submissive though yeah i switch it depends on the night are you a dummy mommy somebody here

03:28:41.920 i need to look at my notes somebody here wanted to talk about pegging i'll look oh it was me oh god

03:28:46.720 oh is that you okay oh we'll come back to that um wait so yes qualities oh she said obey it's not

03:28:54.160 some yes i agree you should obey your husband okay maybe not okay obey is like a very strong word but i

03:29:01.520 feel like obey is like the word that men love to hear do you call your husband master i don't call

03:29:09.520 him master sir i think sir is a good one no not sir i demand i demand you should try like like just

03:29:18.800 tonight just be like hey sir hey master hey master hey sir you'll like it maybe i think you will okay

03:29:25.520 cool you obviously might julia uh your thoughts um well i've never actually met a man or dated a man

03:29:32.240 that feels that way um i don't know if it's the age difference but um that wants like someone exactly

03:29:38.880 what you said pretty much that wants to like be submissive obey and i've never met a man like that

03:29:44.240 but i think young men are probably still like yeah coming into their own and they might not have yet had

03:29:52.160 the relationship or sexual experience to uh really be able to maneuver that kind of dynamic so yeah i

03:29:59.840 think it's definitely different for each man too but i think in general they want someone like that has

03:30:07.280 interests and drive and is going to care for them what about you yeah i definitely think drive is a

03:30:13.440 really big one also like good communication wait drive yeah drive you you think that that's what men

03:30:18.960 want in a woman i really said julia you said drive right yeah drive like ambition yeah yeah and i

03:30:28.720 okay men men don't want that let me tell you we're talking a different yeah i don't want a guy who

03:30:34.320 wants me to be like a i don't want to be like a just stay at home mom like i want to but we're talking

03:30:41.200 about men of value it's different like he asked about men of value we're talking about men of value

03:30:46.640 too men of value men of value right wait where was the where was the men of value don't want women

03:30:53.200 with ambition men of value want a woman who why would you want to love someone that doesn't like

03:30:58.400 you don't want them to have interests and like ambition because at the end of the day it's like

03:31:02.640 they want to be their their king right king doesn't want to be trifled by the queen the queen is here to

03:31:10.080 aid the man and be by her and be by his side so it's not equal no it's never equal no it's not i

03:31:16.880 mean yes it'd be great if a woman has ambition has drive does her own thing but at the end of the day

03:31:22.320 a man wants a woman to be submissive to him and if she doesn't have drive and if she is going to be a

03:31:28.080 stay-at-home mom cook clean provide for the family at the ultimately the man wants that that is what the man

03:31:35.840 gravitates towards too that's what the man wants and i know it's i know it's weird and

03:31:41.040 fucked up to think i mean you guys are so young and i know you don't agree with me but like as you

03:31:44.880 get a little bit older and you realize the type of men that you're dealing with that's what the men

03:31:49.040 want they want a stay-at-home wife they want to stay at home girlfriend well i'm down to be stay at

03:31:54.960 home like that's not a problem for me it's just i'm not gonna like obey you and like i'm your little

03:32:00.640 servant like well no you okay servant is like a very i want them to support me too and like my

03:32:08.400 interests and not i want them to view me as a person in a smart person yeah no i mean they will

03:32:14.160 but it's like that push and pull right if you want them to provide everything for you you're gonna have

03:32:19.040 to give some back if a man yeah wait but didn't earlier actually i'll come back to that but you said

03:32:26.720 you didn't you didn't want 50 50 in a relationship like you wanted the guy to be provider pay for

03:32:31.200 shit yeah okay so you want the guy to be the leader right in the relationship um i feel like

03:32:37.920 if they're paying for shit and being the provider that doesn't necessarily mean they're the leader

03:32:41.840 i mean i mean there are men who are pay pigs i guess that there are definitely men who will be

03:32:49.520 like provider simps and you'll i want them to want you'll want one you want a man to be a pay pig

03:32:56.640 no i want them to love me so much that they want to provide for me well that will come but i feel

03:33:02.560 like there's in order for the i mean there's definitely women who like dominate and control

03:33:09.600 relationships and the guys the provider in those to me that's kind of pathetic but um

03:33:16.240 i mean it's probably good for the girl for that is it good for the woman i mean you have more power

03:33:24.320 i guess but i don't know if you're particularly satisfied with like a weak man but it's not like

03:33:28.240 i'm not bringing anything on onto the table wait what's that it's not like i'm not bringing anything

03:33:32.800 no that's but that's not what i'm saying but like it's kind of that's a guy being in his traditional

03:33:38.560 gender roles pay like being a provider paying for dates but then you don't like my view is traditional

03:33:44.640 gender roles would dictate that when it comes to that i mean obviously this is like typically

03:33:50.480 more so if you're married or in like a really long-term relationship the man is the head of the

03:33:54.880 household so the man's the leader if you want the guy to be the provider shouldn't he be the leader

03:34:04.880 you want you want you want to be the leader we're leading together that's not that doesn't happen

03:34:10.000 but you want him to pay for everything so you want a guy to you just want to be taken care of

03:34:15.280 but not really well i want to take care of him too how like i mean i'm not saying they're paying for

03:34:20.320 everything i'm just saying that they are the financial leader yeah they could be the financial

03:34:24.960 leader so financial leader i feel like the key word is leader yeah you know i mean you just want him to

03:34:29.360 lead financially but not in other areas like how do you want your man to like lead but like hey you

03:34:34.400 can't lead in any of these areas well you gotta pay for and you probably also i assume you probably

03:34:39.040 also want the guy to make the first move ask you out on the date go for the first kiss move things

03:34:46.560 forward physically from there um take initiative just make decisions like i mean i could be wrong maybe

03:34:53.120 you're you're totally fine i don't know so i feel like there's definitely a lot of girls who don't

03:34:59.120 know what they want to eat for dinner so it's kind of sometimes i just want my man to tell me

03:35:04.880 yeah okay i got it yeah i don't want i don't want them to be like well what do you want to do like

03:35:09.040 like i want them to be like we're doing this like get ready we'll be ready by this time yeah okay okay

03:35:14.880 you know like i don't want them to be like oh where do you want to eat like and then go back and

03:35:18.880 forth forever like i want them to take that kind of initiative yeah right yeah okay but you you guys were

03:35:24.720 saying that something that a a man of value would want is your drive drive and ambition but like

03:35:32.880 career wise yeah but here's the thing like men don't really care it's not that we don't care it

03:35:39.680 just it doesn't make you more attractive okay then take that off that like for most men your career

03:35:47.280 even if you're hyper successful that's wonderful that's that's really great for you but it doesn't

03:35:53.520 make you more attractive as a partner also we don't really reap any benefits from your success

03:35:58.480 because i mean you said your uh ambition what was the other term sorry it's blanking on me

03:36:05.040 the and not ambition but drive drive yeah um you said you want a guy to pay for first date so

03:36:11.360 oftentimes even if a woman makes a lot of money she doesn't even want to equally contribute to the

03:36:17.280 start of the relationship and pay for dates pay for first date so why do men not care about

03:36:22.560 your drive and ambition because quite frankly we don't reap any benefits because women typically

03:36:27.760 don't share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women you only

03:36:32.800 care about things that benefit you well i mean we're all selfish to some degree but like

03:36:41.280 you're the when it comes to the money component why should i care like it's not really a factor in

03:36:48.640 our relationship like the fact that you make good money is great for you but if you're still expecting

03:36:53.360 me to pay for the first date why should i care about how much money you make especially early on

03:36:58.880 in the relationship can i play devil's advocate real quick absolutely but let's put a scenario right so

03:37:06.800 like you said you don't care about how much money a woman makes in a relationship you're taking care of

03:37:11.120 her but if that woman doesn't have any drive and ambition and you get in a tight spot where now you're not

03:37:17.040 making enough money to provide for the both of you aren't you going to be a little upset at your

03:37:21.040 woman for not having that drive and ambition to have her own money in the way or let's say you're

03:37:27.120 providing everything and now she's kind of like lax right maybe she doesn't take care of herself as

03:37:32.240 much maybe the house isn't always clean and you're like where did your drive and ambition go when

03:37:37.920 we first got together where you dolled up every day you took care of the house you cleaned well i mean i

03:37:43.680 don't like women who wear a lot of makeup so yeah yeah i mean to each their own right like

03:37:48.160 totally understandable to each their own i mean good she doesn't doll up awesome okay but let's

03:37:53.360 replace that with something else i don't i don't need my girl to paint her face okay but so okay i'm

03:37:59.760 but playing devil's advocate to the sense of like okay now you're in a bind you're in a tight spot

03:38:04.320 financial bind financial never it won't happen i'm that i am that confident in myself that i will never be in

03:38:11.280 a financial bind ever are you even into like the traditional role of like taking care of like a

03:38:16.880 woman 100 because you kept making jokes about like oh well like she needs to take care of me

03:38:20.560 i mean the first day it's i don't think you really want to take care of someone 100 do you

03:38:25.200 well let me just answer your thing really quick i mean again perhaps some catastrophic thing happens

03:38:30.720 but i feel like i am i am so capable and i am so uh fuck what's the term uh resourceful no it's not

03:38:41.920 that um i don't i don't think for me i i think financially i'm i'm gonna be okay okay now like i

03:38:51.600 could why i don't know why she gave me well no i and i believe you i believe you that financially you

03:38:56.000 will be okay long term 100 like this is so successful this podcast is so successful

03:39:01.760 absolutely and you have other endeavors but now let's take it to the point where like

03:39:05.920 you're just kind of sick of your girl just not doing anything are you gonna throw it in her face

03:39:10.480 like i pay for everything and you don't you don't do shit where's your dive where's your ambition to

03:39:15.200 like do something do what are you saying clean do like well oh well i mean okay if i'm paying so you're

03:39:22.560 talking like if we're in a traditional thing where i'm paying i'm taking care of everything

03:39:26.560 well i mean she should probably hold up her end of right the arrangement so you're saying

03:39:31.120 if she just got lazy and stopped doing that yeah that drive that drive and ambition that she once

03:39:35.520 had kind of went away drive well there's drive and ambition for career and then there's drive and

03:39:41.120 ambition to fall into your traditional gender roles of taking care of the internal household but don't

03:39:46.800 those go hand in hand what if she just kind of like no is lax to the fact that like in general just

03:39:51.840 across the board she's just a lazy person i mean obviously look as a woman you need to if you're

03:39:56.720 single you're gonna have to be working in some capacity to provide for yourself for you know

03:40:02.080 food and housing etc but um what if she just wants to stay in bed all day and just kind of chill and

03:40:07.440 hang out and watch netflix she has no drive oftentimes when we're talking about these terms drive and

03:40:13.040 ambition we're we're talking about it from an economic financial career perspective we could be or we

03:40:19.120 could be talking about it in the fact of like okay she gets up she starts her day she does her

03:40:23.760 workout she goes to oh that's her yoga that's great she wants to go to a class and better her

03:40:29.600 education acro yoga is a big red flag acro what acro yoga i don't know if you've seen those

03:40:35.280 fucking youtube shorts these chicks be doing acro no acro yoga big red flag regular regular yoga

03:40:41.840 okay we'll keep it to regular yoga no go yeah red flag big red flag she had that ambition to be

03:40:48.160 a better yes you should be you should be a motivated individual okay but like a woman's ambition drive

03:40:55.040 and motivation when it comes to becoming a boss babe and making a ton of money that isn't really

03:41:00.320 an attraction trigger for most men i don't think we really care all that much okay it doesn't make

03:41:05.120 you more attractive even if you like does it take away a woman's status doesn't it's like we don't

03:41:12.000 care do you feel emasculated if your partner makes more money than you no i mean i'd be fine in a

03:41:18.000 scenario like that i think most women would it's it more so probably fall on the woman

03:41:24.480 because i think most women want to date a guy who's on their level or higher like us men we would date if

03:41:30.720 we're millionaires we'll date a girl who works at chick-fil-a don't give a as long as she's a good

03:41:35.520 person and she's physically attractive don't give a do not care about your job obviously we don't want

03:41:41.440 somebody who's like destitute and broke and like really irresponsible with money that's bad too um if

03:41:50.640 you have a ton of debt that's not ideal but like we'll date a girl who's works at chick-fil-a don't give

03:41:57.840 a fuck a lawyer will date a girl a doctor will date a girl who works a fast food job who's a barista

03:42:05.600 it's you've got an experience right you've probably got i don't know maybe you've been i know you said

03:42:10.480 you like probably guys more so in your age group uh or maybe i'm assuming there but i mean but the

03:42:17.280 rules have you ever been hit on by like a hyper successful dude like doctor attorney maybe on hinge

03:42:24.400 you did the rules would never be reversed though women aren't gonna like a high like a successful

03:42:30.000 woman is not gonna date a guy that's working at chick-fil-a exactly like a woman who's exactly a

03:42:34.880 woman who's attorney would not date i i mean i remember when i was a bit younger i matched with a

03:42:39.680 woman who's a litigation attorney on uh bumble i think it was she was making probably 200 300 thousand

03:42:44.960 dollars a year uh in her bio she said even because of my career i still want chivalry and the guy to

03:42:52.560 pay for the first date and i was like oh you make 200 000 a year like i mean i kind of get it right but

03:43:00.880 it it i think for women it kind of as you become more successful financially it does start to shrink

03:43:05.760 your pool of potential partners if your standard is not necessarily but if you if you want to date a

03:43:10.240 guy who's on your level and above if you get into the one percent career wise that you limit your pool

03:43:16.000 whereas as men get more as men make more money it actually tends to open up their pool of potential

03:43:21.520 partners so yeah because men will men could be a barista we don't we could we could be a

03:43:30.480 fucking making seven figures a year and does not fucking matter but i also think it depends on

03:43:36.400 what kind of man we're talking about i mean how you're saying you're financially you know like

03:43:40.000 stable but i think for most middle class lower class men i mean it probably is gonna matter you

03:43:45.520 know what your girl is doing you'd probably want a woman with a little bit more ambition because you

03:43:49.280 can't financially afford to you know well i work sure i see what you're saying i would say the economic

03:43:55.520 reality of for the vast majority of people just it's a reality for most to be able to afford rent to be

03:44:02.640 able to raise kids uh most people are gonna need a dual income household exactly however what i would

03:44:09.520 say to that is i don't even for that guy who's middle class low class what uh what is it middle

03:44:15.520 class whatever um he probably like if he meets a girl that he really likes and she makes less than him

03:44:24.240 like she's a barista and she's hot and she is pleasant feminine whatever it is

03:44:29.440 is he's probably like i think for men it's not going to be an immediate disqualifier like whereas

03:44:36.400 you as a woman if you're looking for a husband the guy who's working a minimum wage job is like that's

03:44:45.840 from the get-go is probably not gonna do it for you i know a lot of you guys are a bit on the younger

03:44:50.960 side you're probably not overly at this point in your life you probably don't give a fuck about yeah

03:44:56.000 like you're dating college guys they're not making any money or they're working to you know

03:45:01.520 so at this point in your life you probably don't care right but i think once you get into your mid-20s

03:45:05.760 late 20s it's gonna be much much more part of the equation uh because it's important i mean if you

03:45:11.840 want to have kids you want to have family finances is a component to it but from a guy's perspective and

03:45:18.000 ryan if you want to weigh in like does it matter to you because it doesn't matter to me yeah i was gonna

03:45:24.240 say how would you ladies feel if you're on a date with a man and he said i have a really cool fossil

03:45:30.400 collection oh he's rich you'd be like oh well how like you'd probably think oh that's nice that's

03:45:38.160 cool i mean good for you exactly and that's how men feel if you say i'm a lawyer oh um like man it's

03:45:44.480 like hey that's dope i don't think i don't think fossil and lawyer i think i think it needs to be a

03:45:50.080 different no that's what i'm saying it's like i even had a friend he he was talking to one girl

03:45:56.560 and she kept flexing and i'm of this attorney and i can do this and i've done here's my business and

03:46:03.520 a lot of girls sometimes don't realize that that's the equivalent of me telling you

03:46:08.240 well check out my jordan collection in my thing it's so cool it's like congratulations for you but

03:46:14.720 i don't really care that much yeah men don't give a shit yeah i get it so that's not but you

03:46:20.880 guys were kind of getting into like a semantics thing where it's like what if she's doesn't clean

03:46:25.920 herself or doesn't and just stays in a room all day and that's like now obviously you want a girl that

03:46:30.720 is fit and yeah is you know friendly and doing all an upkeep and shit like that and goes to the gym

03:46:36.800 all that but i feel like a girl saying that she's like a lawyer and has all these accomplishments

03:46:41.920 she probably worked harder than someone who has a fossil collection or whatever like i think i

03:46:47.760 think you're missing the it's like a equivalent comparison so just the same way that you would

03:46:53.920 feel if i said check out my fossil collection that's how i feel when a girl says i started my own company

03:47:01.600 i'm like dope i that's nice for you that's the only way i can do it it's they're not the same thing

03:47:08.960 they're the male versus female viewpoint yeah you're not able to feel that and i've i've uh

03:47:18.320 i've dated hyper successful women i've dated i dated an orthopedic surgeon i dated a doctor i dated a

03:47:27.760 physician i dated a physician's assistant dated a we see a pattern like uh let's see i've uh there was

03:47:38.800 a oh a pharmacist a bunch of nurses too many fucking nurses uh you gotta tell you you

03:47:45.680 the whole hospital for real pretty much uh dentist dentist yes actually oh wow

03:47:54.320 wait yeah dentist or the tech where are you finding these dentist yeah dating apps

03:47:58.560 dating apps an esthetician you look for a niche like you look at no i mean it looks like you have a

03:48:03.200 pattern you're saying you don't care about what they do but no but i mean pattern i mean what i've

03:48:08.960 noticed though is uh that's not like the type i of the women i've been in relationships no um but

03:48:16.240 these were like when i say i should clarify when i say i've dated went on a couple dates that sort of

03:48:21.440 thing um and honestly when like a woman who's a doctor that's awesome i'm sure she's incredibly

03:48:28.800 intelligent and i do care about a woman's intelligence because i do think to some degree

03:48:33.360 intelligence does have a genetic basis and i would like my children to be intelligent so and uh but i

03:48:41.120 will say when it comes to like women who are hyper successful they're obviously and that's wonderful

03:48:46.240 they're very focused on their career and if i'm looking for like a long-term relationship i'm looking

03:48:52.320 for someone to have kids with i do have concerns over well what if i want more of your focus on our

03:49:00.640 children than your career or what if i want you a little more in like focused on me than your career

03:49:07.920 now most women are going to say no to what so no i'm not going to give you more because i've worked

03:49:14.480 so hard to build my career and be where i am exactly yeah most women are going to be like nah right and

03:49:20.400 so and also i think women who are super successful hyper successful especially like a woman like we

03:49:25.760 could say that a woman who's a doctor or a lawyer these these are people who are known for working

03:49:30.800 really insane hours now i think women are smarter because women do try even in these hyper um hyper

03:49:37.760 successful careers to try to prioritize more of a work-life balance whereas you have men who will go like

03:49:44.160 70 80 hours a week women are just and women do that too but i think women do typically tend to

03:49:50.240 more so than men prioritize more of a healthy work-life balance which i think is smart because

03:49:55.200 us men we work insane but um and so do women but i think women generally speaking my understanding of

03:50:02.880 the the data women do tend to prioritize more of a work-life balance um she's too busy too busy

03:50:10.960 she's too busy the orthopedic surgeon sorry brian god fucking god do some cut up some bones and

03:50:16.480 shit i'm like cool like i got like two hours a week for you what you want to do yeah you know like

03:50:20.800 yeah so i would like a woman who's maybe got a little more free time there's that component to it

03:50:25.040 um and those are very stressful jobs too that's like uh people in the health care field

03:50:32.160 yeah uh very stressful yeah i think the rate of physician burnout is like really high they work

03:50:38.960 insane hours and it's a stressful it can be a stressful job i actually heard the alcoholism

03:50:44.880 rates among doctors and attorneys is much higher than in the general population uh the incidence of

03:50:53.520 self-deletion is higher in that cohort of people too uh so it's a very stressful job also a woman who's

03:50:59.200 an attorney i think they're this is this applies to both men and women but typically attorneys are very

03:51:04.240 disagreeable temperamentally you have to be kind of very disagreeable um so i feel like women who

03:51:12.400 are attorneys probably have to step into their masculine a lot uh and you're gonna tell her to

03:51:19.040 get on top and she's gonna say object i fucking object wait what are you get on top what

03:51:25.760 she objects to getting on top that's what i'm saying oh sorry i totally i'm sorry hold on

03:51:35.440 i missed that one here let me we gotta move on to uh john galt here can you ask the girls if a guy

03:51:42.640 owning a gun is a positive deal breaker or neutral this came in earlier but i wanted to come back to

03:51:46.720 it so uh gun ownership uh i guess would you would you date a guy who owns a gun we'll start with

03:51:52.640 let's start with you over here and we'll go around i have dated a guy that owns a gun but he

03:52:00.720 told me that like midway into our relationship and he didn't really tell me if it's like i don't know

03:52:06.640 i have certain feelings about it i feel like if you're keeping it in a safe space then i guess i

03:52:13.440 don't know i feel like it's kind of not needed but i don't know needed okay well i'll come back to

03:52:18.880 that but we'll go around the table what about you um i agree with her i don't think it's needed

03:52:23.440 and i personally wouldn't date anyone who owns a gun okay what about you um i feel pretty neutral

03:52:29.280 about that topic i don't think it like defines them as a person at least from what i know i mean

03:52:33.920 there could be more to know but i don't think it affects it okay i agree with you i don't think

03:52:38.160 that like it affects who you are as a person i'm a gun owner my husband's a gun owner most of our

03:52:42.640 friends are gun owners they're great people for protection sure you never know what's gonna happen

03:52:47.200 okay yeah i don't really have an opinion on it

03:52:52.080 so you you would date a guy if he had like you're neutral yeah like you would date a guy it does

03:52:57.840 it's not really a factor for you yeah okay uh i i don't really think it's needed either but it's not

03:53:05.680 necessarily like a complete deal breaker but i prefer not preferred to heat okay god that what about you

03:53:13.280 i mean i'm from the south i mean everyone has guns i have a gun oh it's normal you have a gun here in

03:53:18.720 california not here okay but back home yeah i mean the law is really lenient there i mean they should

03:53:23.920 be strict like regardless but like i wouldn't have an issue if a guy owned a gun okay what about you um

03:53:30.400 i probably prefer if a guy at least had a gun i mean things happen all the time you know just for

03:53:34.960 protection purposes okay gotcha so you you and you kind of sounds like prefer not to have a gun okay

03:53:45.120 gotcha so question um let's say uh let's say you're living with your boyfriend and three men are trying

03:53:53.840 to break into your home let's say you're even married to this guy you have uh two young children

03:54:00.000 uh you and your husband you're living together two young children three men don't know him break

03:54:05.840 into into your house middle of the night in that situation um like would you prefer your man to have

03:54:12.320 a gun or to not have a gun i think we have to take into consideration like our age like we're dating

03:54:18.400 guys that are 20 and 21 like we don't really know if like they're storing a gun right they're

03:54:23.520 like using it for the right like having i mean you could be 20 21 and be uh capable in your gun

03:54:31.360 ownership and i guess i just think that like if i was just like talking to someone or casually dating

03:54:36.400 someone and like i go over to their place and like i don't really know them that well like i don't know

03:54:41.040 if i'd be that comfortable with it well okay so you'd be uncomfortable and i i you'd be uncomfortable

03:54:46.240 with the guy owning a gun but in the scenario that i like i'm married to them like we're older

03:54:52.000 i mean here okay since maybe that's here i'll change the scenario you're still the same age you

03:55:02.000 are you've been dating a guy for a year you guys are cohabitating living together um he's around your

03:55:08.640 age he uh there's three men trying to break into your house would you want your boyfriend to have a

03:55:18.000 firearm just personally where i was raised and grown up i just i'm not comfortable with guns

03:55:24.960 that's just me okay what about you um i agree i'm not i don't know anyone who personally owns a gun

03:55:30.720 and i've never had all family members or friends or anything so i don't really have a personal

03:55:34.160 opinion about it so i just it's not my i don't think i would prefer someone to have a gun okay i mean

03:55:40.160 i'm with them on that i'm with them so but even in the scenario that i just described so what what

03:55:48.640 would you want your boyfriend like okay there's an option to have the gun and then there's a like

03:55:53.920 what would you want him to do in that situation would you prefer these knives knives

03:56:01.120 knives no no but but what would you what would you prefer like if we were protected or killed

03:56:09.440 like well okay there's three men breaking into your house you don't know what they're trying to do

03:56:15.600 maybe they're just trying to steal something maybe more um in that situation would you want

03:56:21.600 your boyfriend to have a firearm i'm if if it's like in we're versus i die we both die

03:56:32.640 or we're like we like we live because he has a gun then i guess but i i'm just not comfortable with

03:56:38.480 guns i am exactly like that's exactly how i feel obviously i don't want to die yeah why aren't you

03:56:43.840 guys comfortable with guns is it just because you don't have a lot of education on gun use and gun

03:56:48.880 storage and all that or so so many issues like in the i mean you get you all know like

03:56:58.800 i've had a gun pointed at me yeah like people a lot of people don't use them responsibly and

03:57:05.920 it depends there's been so many problems do you want to respond to it the scenario i agree with them so

03:57:13.120 okay so to be clear in the scenario you would prefer your in the scenario you'd prefer

03:57:18.800 your boyfriend to defend you with his hands against three intruders i mean it's hard to

03:57:25.040 like speak on that situation like like living or die like it's it's such a oh like i don't like

03:57:31.920 obviously we don't yeah obviously we don't want to die but like at the same time like sure the point

03:57:36.240 i'm trying to get it though the point i'm trying to make though in this situation that i just described

03:57:41.680 you would die if he didn't have a firearm because i don't care like it's just a hypothetical yeah but

03:57:50.480 but but three but three versus one your boyfriend or yourself are not going to be capable of defending

03:57:58.240 against three intruders then so you don't know what they're coming in there for yeah probably not like

03:58:06.960 probably they wouldn't be able to maybe they're deranged fucks that want to take advantage of you

03:58:12.480 and maybe are gonna murder you i just am not comfortable with guns but in that moment i would

03:58:19.120 probably be like you don't get to decide in the moment in a self-defense situation you can't just

03:58:23.440 magically manifest a gun to come into your possession so wouldn't you rather in a self-defense scenario that i

03:58:32.880 just described and there's actually like the home invasions are there's million i uh i don't i don't

03:58:39.440 want to misquote here there's a lot in the united states every single year um wouldn't you want your

03:58:46.480 partner in that like in a self-defense situation to have a firearm i guess i guess have i convinced you

03:58:55.440 i i mean in only that situation and no other like but in order for him to be in that situation he

03:59:01.840 just has to outright have gun ownership all the time at least in the house and he's like a mentally

03:59:08.080 stable dude and and it maybe you should date mentally stable dudes i know it's your type i know

03:59:15.360 it's your type sophie that you just it's okay we we got to talk about types well what about you two guys

03:59:21.200 i mean i don't know wait me we didn't let me ask like do you think that self-defense is a valid

03:59:31.440 reason for somebody wanting to own a firearm robin that has donated 99 dollars brian the right answer

03:59:37.600 to this question is to ask nicely for them to leave i'm sure people entering your house uninvited

03:59:43.760 are very logical and will obey the law and respect your wishes he spent 99 dollars to say that yo robin

03:59:51.040 that's true that's true i guess my whole view is is that when it comes to self-defense like because

03:59:57.280 here's the reality right let's say you're in that situation then i hope it never happens to anybody at

04:00:01.920 this table but let's say you're in that situation i i guarantee it like in that moment your all your

04:00:08.640 politics when it comes to firearm ownership will go out the window when you're in the process of

04:00:13.280 being victimized in one way or the other you're probably right like you would want a firearm in

04:00:19.280 that situation a hundred percent of the time i wouldn't necessarily like not be with someone

04:00:25.040 because they own a gun but you said you would be uncomfortable i'm just not like i wouldn't be with

04:00:30.240 someone and be like we need to get a gun like i just yeah i'm not like i'm not like this is a

04:00:35.600 mandatory thing that we need i'm just not comfortable with it it's just that's just

04:00:40.560 what what do you think that would be the solution to like let's say there's a home invasion uh what

04:00:45.680 do you what do you do if you don't have a firearm kind of and hide okay so then they arrive 10 minutes

04:00:52.160 later after you've already been victimized so the great thing about the police here's the thing with

04:00:57.120 police right and um police in some instances can stop crimes from from occurring and obviously there's

04:01:05.040 we need a police force for deterrent factors however and this might be surprising most of

04:01:12.080 the time police investigate crimes after they've already occurred so their job isn't necessarily

04:01:17.600 to prevent crime to prevent you from being victimized now their mere presence does stop

04:01:23.120 crime from happening but um you know what's the average police response time in this country it's

04:01:29.680 i don't know seven i don't know what it is five to ten minutes maybe 15 minutes so what if you don't

04:01:35.600 even get to the phone by then sometimes you might not get to the phone so in that time period you've been

04:01:41.840 victimized in maybe they just steal something maybe they do something far worse especially if you have

04:01:48.800 kids that's another component so um word i mean i've heard of stories where kids have gotten hold of

04:01:56.880 the guns and yeah bad things have happened that's where safety or the person breaking in and regular

04:02:02.480 guns again that's properly storing the firearm educating your children this is a no this like lock it

04:02:11.120 lock it literally there are gun safes like i have one that's where that's what you do you don't want

04:02:15.760 anybody going near that that's weird but i when it comes to calling the police just be aware like

04:02:24.160 if you can even get to the phone in time to call them uh they're probably not going to arrive

04:02:29.360 five ten minutes and uh so they're not going to be able to prevent i mean they can maybe catch the

04:02:34.880 guys that victimize you but the better i would think the the better move would be to

04:02:38.800 just be able to capable of defending yourself to begin with let's get a couple chats and we have

04:02:46.160 bender the offender by the way bender the offender can you send me a dm on ig fun fact the word obey

04:02:50.560 was in wedding vows until the year 1928 and was replaced with the words to love and cherish

04:02:56.640 interesting very interesting i guess uh they took it out thank you bender the offender we have john

04:03:02.320 galt here respect to the feminist studies girl for coming onto the show and being open-minded

04:03:06.240 it's good to get some different perspectives on the panel okay yeah thank you for coming john

04:03:11.920 smith here oh we have one coming in from grid motorsports it's coming in just a sec here nick if

04:03:18.400 you can pull up really quick twitch it's probably going to interrupt the tts is about to we'll come

04:03:24.160 back to it grid one motorsports donated 100 rule number one of gun safety carry one rule two thou shalt

04:03:32.640 carry with one in the chamber my job as a man is to be ready to protect my woman others that cannot

04:03:38.960 protect themselves and if possible myself i teach firearms safety to kids learn early yo grid one

04:03:47.280 motorsports thank you man appreciate it um yeah i think uh that's good congrats um thank you man

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04:04:18.960 prime sub yo thank you mys i'd argue it's way more humane to shoot a home invader than beat them to

04:04:25.760 death with a baseball bat yeah word yeah um but i mean three like if there's three of you and

04:04:34.800 you and your wife or girlfriend or whatever you want it to be humane if they're a home in fate like

04:04:39.680 that they're already well no i don't think you need i think he's just making true okay yeah

04:04:44.560 really they they're there to like terrorize you and do horrible shit like why would you want to

04:04:51.120 like be like like i'll make this nice and quick for you like no i want to like i'm sure i'm sure

04:04:56.800 you wouldn't mind doing either but like one's gonna be easier right okay we have uh let's see we have

04:05:04.160 john smith can you ask the girls if it's a deal breaker if a guy has the opposite political views as

04:05:08.640 them we'll start with you so tell us what you're like if you consider yourself more conservative liberal

04:05:14.640 moderate maybe you're apolitical and then deal breaker if a guy has opposite political views

04:05:20.160 um i'm kind of in the middle i kind of see both views um it would depend i think if someone was

04:05:26.080 too far left or right um we probably wouldn't be that aligned what about you i mean i'm also in the

04:05:31.680 middle but if it were to come down to like the other person as long as they're like a like biases

04:05:36.880 and opinions aren't like too like far like they're not like that's all they like their whole

04:05:43.040 personality i guess essentially like if that's their whole personality then like yeah no but

04:05:47.760 like if you can have your own views just don't have to be annoying about it sure um i usually try

04:05:53.040 to keep politics out of my like dating life really are you where do you fall on the i'm definitely more

04:05:59.520 liberal um but i mean if they're not shoving it down my throat and i it's not necessarily the end of

04:06:08.640 the world but you know i just i don't yeah doesn't come up in conversation not usually if it does a

04:06:17.120 lot i'm really it's like turns me off like okay what about you yeah same i feel like but i would

04:06:24.400 rather date someone more liberal um or moderate i am i feel like after meeting my husband i've

04:06:31.840 definitely been a little bit more republic republican i guess um but i'm still a little bit more in the

04:06:37.680 middle i see both sides and just as long as you don't push it down my throat and we can see eye

04:06:42.080 to eye on certain things yeah it's fine i just like don't like anyone on one far end or the other

04:06:48.480 far end like if you're just too much of something like no so do you consider yourself a bit moderate

04:06:53.920 i honestly don't really know where i fall like i'm really out of the loop which is not good i

04:06:58.560 definitely need to work on getting more educated but sure totally fine what about you i would say i'm a

04:07:03.920 little more liberal but i respect other people's opinions and i don't think it's a huge deal breaker

04:07:09.680 i like to learn from another person or the partner i'm with and i don't think it's a big deal breaker

04:07:14.320 if they have a different political belief than me i'm left-leaning and i feel like political views

04:07:19.520 are kind of misconstrued now so i feel like as long as morals align yeah um oh ask the girl sorry ryan

04:07:30.240 um uh well deal breaker for you if they have different political views

04:07:36.400 i think if they were on a if it was really crazy and they were very into their beliefs so much to

04:07:43.120 the point where it was affecting our communication and whatnot then yeah it would be a deal breaker

04:07:48.960 yeah but i think people who are like really really heavily invested in politics can tend to be i don't

04:07:56.080 know politics are kind of like negative a little bit to begin with so if you're like on either side

04:08:00.480 if you're like really really hardcore with it it can just kind of be a like you're just always kind of

04:08:08.400 down i don't know um okay uh let's see we have uh grid one motorsports life is not a rom-com

04:08:17.200 regardless of what you have been told men do not need you men do not need you to save us we need you

04:08:23.280 to bring us peace and help make life better where have all the good men gone to women who value

04:08:29.360 them why can't you find one you are not really looking wow that was poetic yeah that was beautiful

04:08:36.800 okay i need to finally get into some of your pre-show notes here that you guys provided so

04:08:41.520 let's see we have uh jessica i'm 100 sure it's impossible to dig that data guy who isn't like

04:08:48.480 lusting over other girls like no matter what there's always another girl that's so yeah it's

04:08:56.880 so me um so tell us about that i just think like no matter like who at least like in our age range

04:09:03.200 like from like maybe like ages like 18 to 22 i don't know what happens after that but like right now

04:09:07.760 like every guy i feel like i've ever like talked to or even like met or like my friends dated like

04:09:13.280 they're always like i mean this is shouldn't be a big deal but like they're literally always like

04:09:17.760 liking like naked girls on instagram like their whole butt is out like boobs out and everything

04:09:25.200 and like they're just like like and then the second the girl goes to post something like that like

04:09:28.880 it's over like they're so angry so it's just like super interesting but there's always someone that

04:09:33.600 they're like over you know they can't ever just be a one girl like they can't have their eyes on one

04:09:37.840 i see okay but men are such visual creatures they are men love to look they're not going to do

04:09:46.880 anything they just like to look but don't make that do not feel not confident because a man is liking

04:09:55.520 somebody's half naked picture online i definitely like agree 100 i just feel like it's respect it's

04:10:01.200 like embarrassing like if like one of my girlfriends like goes on like an instagram post of like

04:10:05.040 like somebody that's like half naked and is like oh that's your man like in the likes like it's

04:10:08.880 almost like it hurts my ego i'm like what i just don't think you should date anyone from like the

04:10:13.280 ages of like 18 yeah god no five like like men i would take that even girls it's just like oh you're

04:10:18.560 just like growing up you're figuring things out like i agree on a real date too seriously on a real

04:10:23.760 note if this is a thing between you and your man and your man's like dude like i just i like to look

04:10:29.760 like be like at least he's honest he's honest but it's like you know what make a fucking fake

04:10:34.720 instagram account and go like it from another instagram account whatever dude like right like

04:10:38.400 at least just i don't so i don't think i don't think a guy liking a woman's another woman's instagram

04:10:48.720 photos is necessarily indicative of i don't necessarily think it has to be an issue but me personally i don't

04:10:57.680 follow anybody on instagram i follow my own accounts i have my personal page i'm my whatever

04:11:02.240 page they follow each other i don't follow any girls on instagram i don't like any chicks on instagram

04:11:08.560 i'm too preoccupied with my own life um so i'm not really i don't know how women should view it but what

04:11:17.120 i can say my view from a guy's perspective is you shouldn't be doing that because you're a simp

04:11:23.360 i don't think you should be liking some chicks photos some random shit like that's kind of weird

04:11:29.280 i don't know that's i don't know in general or if you have a girl just like ever even if you're single

04:11:34.480 i think it's lame to be liking some other chicks photos like why are you following some like hot

04:11:40.880 insta girl who if if that's a girl who would never give you the time of day in person why are you like

04:11:47.840 it's kind of to me it's kind of white knight simp shit so i don't follow any girls on instagram i'm

04:11:52.960 not i'm not like scrolling looking at all the hot chicks um i mean maybe that's just a discipline

04:11:59.360 thing i also like tend to yeah it's just i'm i'm more critical of it from i don't know how women

04:12:08.240 should feel about it but i think men just from a purely disciplined point of view should not be like

04:12:14.240 frying their brains looking at hot chicks on instagram and it's kind of simp

04:12:19.280 shit especially if you're fucking leaving comments oh you're so beautiful shut the

04:12:23.120 fuck up she can be beautiful but like why are you being a simp yeah yeah do you watch porn

04:12:29.200 huh do you watch porn rarely if it's sometimes you know it's been a minute you gotta bust it not

04:12:37.040 sometimes i'll use it as a visual aid but like i do typically uh i do i think i do uh

04:12:45.120 try to hold myself to some discipline and i'd probably watch much less porn than the average

04:12:51.120 person does okay but that's it sometimes it's been a minute you gotta if you're single you know

04:12:57.360 shit but uh if i'm in a relationship though no almost if if i mean if like we've she's gone on a

04:13:08.960 for a month or some shit and i've gotta bust a nut i'll watch some porn maybe but why wouldn't

04:13:14.640 you bust a nut to her sending you some oh that's fine you know i'm yeah if she wants to yeah that's

04:13:19.840 fine i have i have very specific tastes though on that front though so if she's willing to provide

04:13:25.440 we can what are those tastes can you share big labia matter nick can you pull it up big labia

04:13:30.400 matter i'm talking looking right down main street blm hashtag blm big labia matter listen women women

04:13:38.560 have penis size prefer genitalia genitalia preferences i got preferences too yeah valid dude yeah i thought

04:13:47.440 something i wanted to interject yeah what's that um it's interesting that you're talking about like

04:13:52.640 guys liking naked girls pictures it's funny how if if a girl posts like revealing pictures on instagram

04:14:01.280 other girls will say like it's empowering it's good you shouldn't shame that like do your thing

04:14:07.280 but then if i as a guy didn't like it i'm bad if i'm your boyfriend so it's i'm not i'm not speaking

04:14:14.160 about you specifically but i just thought that was interesting how these like if i went on here and

04:14:20.320 said oh women shouldn't post revealing pictures i would be like a monster but then if it's your man

04:14:26.640 liking these empowered women's pictures is like what if i just like empowered women do you see the

04:14:31.840 angle i'm kind of getting at i just thought yeah i was just kind of thinking it into you know it's not

04:14:36.720 that like you know you're not liking it because of that and that's what i'm saying but but when girls

04:14:41.520 post that stuff they always say well you can't hate on it because these women are empowered and

04:14:47.120 confident and strong but what if i like confident empowered strong women if you're dating someone

04:14:52.960 i don't think you should be liking other like is if a girl posts revealing pictures is that like

04:14:59.520 is that good or bad i don't think it means anything like i don't think it really labels anything about

04:15:05.360 them it's almost a part of the culture now i feel like it's just so like normalized like all of us

04:15:10.080 post bikini you know kind of photos and stuff but it's understandable if my man didn't want me to do that

04:15:16.080 anymore yeah i'm just saying like if it's fine and good and great then it should be fine for me to

04:15:21.600 like it too yeah i don't know if that was even making any sense it makes sense in my head yeah

04:15:26.480 i think it makes sense i do see though like you would probably be labeled as uh controlling or

04:15:33.680 insecure if you had an issue with your girlfriend posting revealing photos on instagram but you think

04:15:39.920 it'd be it's more socially acceptable for women to have an issue with men liking other women's photos

04:15:46.560 i mean i think they both go together like if you as a woman have an issue with your boyfriend

04:15:52.080 liking other women's photos then you probably shouldn't be posting revealing photos where your

04:15:56.320 photos can be liked on by other dudes yeah i was saying just the argument shifts it's like

04:16:03.680 girls posting revealing is good and it's fun and great and it's not a problem but then if i start

04:16:10.400 liking it i'm the boyfriend and i'm like no i like the strong women it's like no you can't do that

04:16:16.080 um so i just thought that was it made me think right now what if the roles were reversed what

04:16:20.320 if you start posting some shirtless pictures and girls started liking your pictures well i'm

04:16:27.840 i also think no that's the thing if i posted a shirtless picture and i'm just ripped and beautiful

04:16:33.840 that's all i think they're a bit different how like if you posted something very revealing you're

04:16:41.440 going to get a lot of attention from it and dms and offers if i post something revealing i'm

04:16:46.400 getting significantly less like offers and options from doing that but that's a whole that's kind of

04:16:52.560 a different discussion too that we put it into we're not necessarily getting like a bunch of quality

04:16:59.200 offers either yeah but it is like a bunch of guys talking to themselves yeah whatever and i feel like

04:17:04.960 for a man when you like a photo a naked girl's photo you're like hey like knock knock like i think

04:17:09.840 you're attractive because you probably wouldn't like a sexy photo of your sister you know what i mean

04:17:13.120 like so you're letting them know like i'm here i see you i want you to know that i see you so i'm

04:17:18.080 gonna like this really quick because like how hard would it have been for like you know the guy

04:17:23.360 she's dating to just like oh okay she's hot and fucking keep scrolling like he doesn't have to like

04:17:28.800 it like you can shit he could bookmark it like if he wants to come back to it but to like it you're

04:17:35.600 letting them know like hey i think you're kind of hot you know yeah i think you're attractive

04:17:41.120 yeah that's a really good point yeah honestly how would you feel if your girl liked some shirtless

04:17:45.920 guy's photo on instagram a bunch of shirtless guys photos yeah like if her name was the first

04:17:51.600 that popped up and all the like yeah i would start sweating a little bit okay and i would have to say

04:17:58.720 something yeah what would you say oh man or are you confident enough that you don't care

04:18:07.280 no i would definitely care but yeah because like why are you doing that okay but yeah we have stifler

04:18:13.360 here ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you go ahead um i would say

04:18:23.600 seven i'd say like a six i'd say a seven i'd say a seven it's like a six on a good day seven oh into

04:18:36.480 the mic i'd say a seven i'd probably say a seven as well i don't know i feel weird i don't know we all

04:18:43.920 did it you gotta do it you gotta do it you got it like i don't know i just feel like just on looks

04:18:50.560 like yeah just your looks based on like what like 10 is like brad pitt in his prime one

04:18:58.960 is jonah hill donald trump maybe for you because you're kind of liberal so you might be like that

04:19:04.320 dude's a one what what would you rate donald trump on the scale of 10 we'll go around that's a better

04:19:10.560 question he's like a solid like four or five at least right for you for me what do you rate for

04:19:17.440 donald trump like just looks just just look what would you rate yeah what do you rate him is he

04:19:22.560 like a babe is he like a 10 like if it wasn't for his politics like you would for sure go donald trump

04:19:27.840 yeah he's kind of like he's got a badonka are you delusional but dude he's got like a dog

04:19:34.960 yo he's thick but the orange like he's thick as

04:19:39.840 so you wouldn't tap that sophie like forget the politics like you would forget the politics i

04:19:46.320 wouldn't look in his i think he was atrocious i'd literally look at him and laugh okay all right

04:19:53.600 i wouldn't even look at him i'd probably like hold my breath so on the scale of one to ten what do you

04:19:58.400 rate yourself i i would just i would just say tend to be optimistic but i don't i feel like it's not

04:20:05.600 really an actual rating you know okay rhino i would say 6.5 okay i give myself six

04:20:16.960 on a good day how about that all right cool thank you stifler appreciate it good to have you uh let's

04:20:21.680 see are we kind of on chance okay we have a note here for julia oh you were in a situation with a

04:20:30.640 meth head tell us about it oh no oh um did you also do meth with him no okay um

04:20:44.400 i don't know i just um was in a situationship with a guy that was addicted to meth and coke um

04:20:54.080 um and he would make me do like really strange things like he would spam call me at like three

04:21:02.400 four in the morning um until i answered and then he'd be like come outside right now like i need you

04:21:08.240 and then i'd come outside and then like we'd go climb a tree that sounds like what a coke head would

04:21:16.080 do yeah that sounds like kind of normal but didn't you not know that it was like meth in the yeah the

04:21:21.520 mate like the majority of the time like you thought it was just coke but then you ended up

04:21:24.560 finding out that like yeah he knew it was cut with meth yeah i i found out later that it was

04:21:29.520 meth i thought it was just coke but how'd you find out it was meth his friend told me he was like he was

04:21:35.440 like you know he's like been on meth for so long and i was like oh i thought it was just coke and he

04:21:40.400 was like no is that your type methods no i mean you were in a situation with him maybe at the time okay

04:21:48.000 but at the time you were into methods yeah has there been more than one method no multiple

04:21:52.800 methods just one okay but he made me do a lot of weird things like he'd make us like steal bikes and

04:21:59.440 we just like ride bikes that sounds like some method shit um that wasn't a red flag how many bikes did

04:22:06.720 you steal i always don't incriminate don't incriminate yourself you would steal the bikes and then return

04:22:11.600 that yeah we'd go on a bike ride the bikes we'd borrow the bikes go on a bike ride to wherever

04:22:16.960 he wants to go and then we come back return the bikes back where they were um so it wasn't like

04:22:23.040 too bad when was this i don't know if the statute of limitations is up on some of that ship i'm

04:22:26.960 kidding i'm kidding you're fine you're fine you returned the bikes it's all good yeah it was like

04:22:31.680 two years ago but we i ended up doing a lot of weird things with him a drug thing no just his little

04:22:38.880 adventures did you think you were going to change him that sounds kind of fun yeah yeah i felt like

04:22:44.640 his therapist a lot but good times good times but he made me realize to never do that again method

04:22:52.960 yeah um was he like a tweaker type of method just yeah he was tweaking and

04:22:59.120 shit he would tweak he would hop he had like a little hop thing where he'd just like hop around

04:23:03.840 like he had a crip walk yeah it was a crip walk oh it was a what it was a crip walk crip walk can you

04:23:13.360 demonstrate it for us sure right here let's see the let's see this okay she's gonna do the crip walk

04:23:23.040 okay okay good times uh you also said you uh maybe well if this was with your method boyfriend

04:23:42.480 situationship whatever break you broke into a random house to hook up with someone while the

04:23:47.920 people that lived at the house were home was that with the method was that with the method guy um yeah

04:23:55.120 so you you didn't know these people no so he was just like let's go in let's go in and then i was like

04:24:01.280 no and then he opened the door and it just opened like they didn't lock their door this is in santa

04:24:07.600 barbara yeah oh iv okay and so we go into the bathroom and we see we hear people in a bedroom like

04:24:14.880 and i'm like fuck like this is so scary but we go into the bathroom and then we're doing a little

04:24:21.360 thing and then we leave and then we like tiptoe out and then we hear the door open the bedroom door

04:24:27.280 and we start freaking out so we just run out as fast as we can and then like two weeks later i am

04:24:34.720 hanging out with a friend and her friends wait can you scoot the mic a little closer towards you yeah um

04:24:40.560 and then two weeks later i'm hanging out with my friend and her friends and we we all are hanging

04:24:46.320 out and then we go to drop her off at her house and it's the house and i was like oh my god and i

04:24:56.160 like yelled and she was like what and i was like girl i'm so sorry but i broke into your house

04:25:02.240 and and it was just such a weird coincidence but we ended up becoming friends

04:25:07.200 oh sorry i broke in your house wow okay sounds like you and the meth head guy had some adventures

04:25:18.000 yeah it's definitely regret it so much not my brightest moment it sounds like you committed

04:25:23.920 various acts of misdemeanors and felonies good times good yeah slight home invasion hookup nothing to get

04:25:33.840 the juices flowing okay cool um so we have let's see who else do we have here um

04:25:43.920 uh let's see anissa how do you pronounce your name anisa okay i'll try to get that right finally um

04:25:52.720 you okay living in vegas dating in vegas very interesting i don't think people move to vegas to

04:25:57.520 find love although my social media may portray me as sexual slash your typical

04:26:01.680 ig girl i lost my virginity at 25 with the person who i thought i was going to end up with

04:26:09.200 yeah good times tragic late bloomer yeah and you're 28 now so three years yeah i moved to vegas

04:26:17.760 that happened okay um okay yeah i moved to vegas i didn't think like you know i moved to vegas to make

04:26:24.960 some money and work in the industry i met someone he lives in a different what industry uh like night

04:26:32.000 life night life okay got it um he lived in a different state um i was like oh wow like this

04:26:39.120 is the one like you know gonna do it um happened he ended up having a girlfriend for like a year

04:26:45.840 so yeah that was good times unfortunate good times how long wait how long were you dating him

04:26:53.040 before you guys got intimate it was not long it was like two months yeah that's pretty well that's

04:26:59.760 pretty that's a long time yeah yeah i guess right i mean i don't know yeah i mean i think i mean

04:27:08.800 um you said that dating in bigger cities is more transactional and less genuine than dating in less

04:27:14.960 popular areas yeah or populated areas i think you might yeah yeah um when you say transactional

04:27:20.320 though what do you what do you mean um i just think like you know like women are looking to get

04:27:26.880 taken care of and men are looking for like someone hot like i just think it's a lot less genuine than

04:27:32.800 you know like when you're in a smaller area and you don't have as much opportunity you know like women

04:27:37.600 like we can't go out as much and find these big ballers and you know men aren't finding

04:27:42.080 or surrounded by all these beautiful women like things are just a little different i think in

04:27:47.600 smaller places i'm from a pretty small town right i mean i've definitely heard that like in a lot of

04:27:52.720 these major cities especially like miami la vegas um it strikes me as these are in addition to what

04:28:02.880 you said about being more transactional they tend to be very superficial too exactly yeah um and so it

04:28:09.440 almost make they almost coincide in that way um but so when you say transactional like

04:28:17.520 i mean i guess i just maybe transactional isn't the right word but i mean i think it can be i mean

04:28:22.400 i do think there is like relationships are transactional you know what i mean like hey

04:28:27.680 you're looking for a man to provide protect whatever a man's looking for a beautiful woman too

04:28:32.800 okay i see what you're saying um but yeah i just think it's it is a lot more superficial

04:28:37.840 right maybe that's a better word sure you also wrote here that the fact that most people believe

04:28:42.400 that the one that a woman having kids lowers her value is why some women are opting out of having

04:28:47.920 children yeah okay i think so yeah uh and you think that's because they're that's making women opt

04:28:55.040 out of having children because it lowers their value i don't think it lowers

04:28:58.320 i don't think having children lowers your value as a woman i think having kids without a father does

04:29:08.480 okay so like for in the dating marketplace and i'm when i say value i'm talking like your value in

04:29:14.720 the dating marketplace certainly somebody who's got three kids in tow from different fathers

04:29:20.720 you are less valuable on the dating marketplace than somebody who doesn't have kids in tow and i

04:29:27.440 would argue that would be the case also women can feel the same way women can also feel like

04:29:32.000 i'd prefer to date a guy who doesn't have three children with three different women i think it's

04:29:38.240 reasonable in both directions um we could say it would be a sub-optimal partner to date somebody who's

04:29:46.080 kind of might have their attentions a little distracted because of the children yeah yeah i

04:29:52.800 could see that um but i don't think like if i was with a long-term partner i'm not i don't really

04:29:59.280 believe in marriage but if i uh was with my long-term partner and we had kids it wouldn't lower her value

04:30:05.760 in my eyes but as a single guy if i'm talking to a single woman who's single mother i would say that

04:30:13.680 she is a sub-optimal partner yeah and i can see that yeah i don't have i don't have any kids i'd

04:30:18.160 rather date a woman who doesn't have any kids yeah so i can see that um i guess just kind of like in

04:30:23.600 you know like the internet manosphere i guess some of them you know well i think i do think it's

04:30:30.160 there are super valid reasons to not want to date a single single mother yeah i and no i i completely

04:30:36.480 understand yeah i i get that um i guess maybe i kind of wanted to elaborate on that like i do think

04:30:44.480 like women wanted to be more traditional originally and i do think just how things have been going like

04:30:51.760 you know a woman with kids

04:30:55.440 just isn't looked at as i don't know a woman with kids is less valuable than a man with kids

04:31:00.160 i think and just roles are kind of like switching up and i think women are you know being seen as

04:31:05.840 less than if they have children compared to a man who has children um so i do think a lot more women

04:31:10.240 are kind of opting out of not wanting to be mothers and wives and things like that i'm so pro i still

04:31:15.200 want to be a mother and a wife but i'm just saying right for a lot of you know younger women i think they

04:31:20.080 kind of want to opt out of that just because of how things have been going yeah have kid i may have

04:31:26.400 kids with a husband have kids with somebody who you really anticipate spending your whole life

04:31:30.720 no i agree completely yeah um sasha wait that's not your real name though no that's my alter ego

04:31:37.520 oh alter ego yeah do you have yes but split personality oh my god yeah absolutely split

04:31:43.120 personality disorder adhd everything autism all of it gang gang no i'm kidding um you said you were

04:31:53.280 with your ex for five years had a huge age gap 11 years uh he kept cheating on you emotionally

04:31:59.360 so you snapped you slashed three of his tires so he couldn't get an insurance claim but then you made

04:32:04.960 up and you slashed his fourth one so that it could go on the do you want why don't you tell us the story

04:32:11.600 oh yeah so we were starting our relationship he was a lot older than i was um i was 17 i didn't

04:32:23.040 see yes red flag red flag yeah yes okay but i was like a month and a half into turning 18

04:32:31.680 still a very red flag listen i know and as i'm older now i realized that

04:32:38.400 we he had always been talking to his exes he always wanted to keep in contact with them

04:32:44.000 as i got older i was like that's not acceptable like no thank you we were in miami

04:32:48.800 and i uh i suspected that there was some shady shit going on and uh there was so i looked through

04:32:58.240 his snapchat and he had been talking to a girl that was actually younger than me

04:33:07.120 yikes again red fucking flag i know i know and it was emotional cheating it was saying about how like

04:33:15.280 you know maybe we could have worked i miss you i don't know if i'm happy this isn't that and i was

04:33:22.000 like rip yo like i would rather have you physically cheated on me than done that so i i snapped one

04:33:30.080 night and i drove to his place and i i i yeah i slashed his tires on his new truck and uh then i went

04:33:38.880 inside and i was like he didn't even know i was there i went inside and i was like you want to tell me

04:33:43.440 something you want to talk about it wait how did you like you just did you know his passcode how did

04:33:49.760 you know oh yeah oh i knew everything i knew all his passwords i knew everything how did you know

04:33:55.120 because he had shared them with me previously okay but so uh you made you made up that night

04:34:05.200 made up that night yeah i mean so then you went the same night that you slashed three tires you slashed

04:34:09.920 oh yeah no we both walked outside and finished off the job so that he could follow the insurance

04:34:14.160 wait did you tell did you tell him that yeah oh that's actually kind of like if you get your tire

04:34:20.080 slashed you yourself just slashed the fourth one yeah yeah wait loophole and then yeah he got the

04:34:26.400 insurance claim is that really a thing with insurance if only three of the tires are slashed

04:34:30.240 this was back in 2017 i'm assuming it's still a thing right so why can't you just slash the fourth

04:34:38.880 one like sure it's probably know about it it would have been like oh shit like why can't any why can

04:34:45.840 you just do yourself and then file the you could wait so you told them though they did it together

04:34:51.600 that you slashed the tires yeah okay and then we both went outside and finished that sounds like a

04:34:56.320 very healthy relationship it was the healthiest i've ever been super healthy oh my gosh yeah um

04:35:02.160 okay good times uh let's see what else you wanted um pegging you really wanted to talk about pegging it

04:35:08.080 sounds like so are you you would like to peg your man i don't oh why do you this is no this is something

04:35:12.800 i want to talk about because it's such like a trend nowadays is it a trend it is i feel like

04:35:17.680 has any girl here pegged a guy it's not a oh my god they're young they're young stop hold on they're

04:35:23.760 young they're young no it's like a thing with the with the college girls they like want to peg their

04:35:29.360 boyfriend it's a transfer of power and i feel like a lot of like successful men want to be pegged what

04:35:37.760 that's it yeah they do have you encountered this have you pegged a dude i've i've had men have asked

04:35:45.520 me to peg them and i'm like what the fuck okay as any girl here any sophie absolutely not you

04:35:56.400 wouldn't do it no julia what if it was like

04:36:02.080 a method adventure with your ex if he was like tweaking this tweaking on meth julia

04:36:07.840 can you peg me in this tree it's a transfer in the tree in a tree this is like a dr seuss book in

04:36:17.040 the making he pegged me on a tree on a boat what's that green eggs and ham i don't know

04:36:24.080 on a boat i think it would be kind of funny but i wouldn't actually do it but okay anybody

04:36:31.120 no pegging here okay somebody's done yeah have you ever been pegged yeah okay how was it was it

04:36:40.640 doggy style it was cool yeah i mean it was like a transfer power but it was also like a trust thing

04:36:46.400 like i do think like you trusted me and um you felt comfortable i would feel so destroyed i'm never

04:36:54.320 told i mean you are being destroyed did they enjoy it i can't do that yeah they're like i think a lot

04:37:00.480 more men would enjoy it than like what they think did you enjoy it yeah yeah okay well

04:37:05.280 it was kind of a power thing but it was it was like a trust like we felt closer you know what i

04:37:09.120 mean there's no way your girl can respect you after she pegs you that's not true i think i

04:37:13.120 respected him more no fucking way yeah oh 100 i think no fucking yeah there's there's no way okay

04:37:19.760 well that's fine whatever um you also want to what happens in vegas stays in vegas what happens in

04:37:24.320 vegas that stays in vegas what happens in vegas is people want to come out to the club and act like

04:37:29.040 there are no rules no responsibilities and they make mistakes and they think that it stays in

04:37:34.160 vegas but really it doesn't hang on yeah okay so uh yeah when you know let's for example a bachelor

04:37:42.080 party comes in and they want to hook up with some girls yeah they're taking home those stds it does not

04:37:46.640 stay in vegas are you saying there's a high std rate in vegas there might be there might be there's a

04:37:53.760 high transactional rate of people from out of town hooking up in vegas and taking it back home

04:38:00.480 when they shouldn't be there's the working girls right no not even that i'm just talking about

04:38:05.760 random people at the club just like random oh randos man okay i see what you're saying one in three sp

04:38:12.960 one in three people and i love this to have an std yeah one two three i don't have here

04:38:17.760 four it's you four right actually who is it not me we had a girl what show was it it was last show

04:38:29.360 last show she had the clap she got the clap wait was that two shows ago she had chlamydia from a

04:38:35.840 threesome oh that's right good times good times let's see oh what we wanted to come back to everybody's type

04:38:48.160 because of you uh we'll start with you then we'll figure it out what's your type okay um

04:38:55.760 yeah i i don't know tattoos are definitely like a big thing on there but um do you like gangbangers

04:39:02.880 thugs no trappers like i don't know how to put this i like guys that look like they would stink but don't

04:39:13.200 like they they look like they smell bad like i like i like skater boys oh skater boys yeah sure

04:39:26.240 skater boys look like they yeah they smell bad do they stink uh not all of them

04:39:32.880 not i don't just like that's the primary thing with skater boys is that they look stinky not

04:39:39.360 necessarily but they're just you just hang out and wait are you from san bar no you're where you

04:39:45.840 from how long have you been in santa barbara almost i think two years now did you just go to

04:39:50.480 santa barbara skate park by uh what is it east beat is it yeah west beach yeah i used to go there

04:39:55.120 actually but i but i because i wanted to skate oh okay yeah not for the skater boys no no okay but

04:40:02.560 um i don't so dudes okay dudes who look stinky what else um i used to yeah tattoos i used to kind

04:40:10.240 of like white guys yeah uh do you have a preference no not really okay all right that's fine no but um

04:40:22.000 um yeah i mean i used to really like douchey guys but i'm kind of over that i really just i don't

04:40:27.760 have it you used to really like douchey guys you still do i like the chase you still do but you used

04:40:33.680 to too sure i i i rather i i'm just i don't know i i liked the chase like that was a really big part of

04:40:40.720 it okay but i i don't want that anymore like sure okay uh what's your type i mean i don't i don't

04:40:50.000 really have like a strict type i mean just like chill athletic athletic nice how tall oh we should

04:40:56.960 do maybe height height does height matter for you yeah i like like six foot and up how tall are you

04:41:04.640 five two nick if you can get that meme going um oh five she's five two it's like the charger what's

04:41:11.520 your bare minimum though like you but you definitely have a strong preference for six like five ten like

04:41:15.920 i've my first boyfriend was five i'm only had two boyfriends my first one was like five ten my

04:41:19.920 second was like six five so six five yeah is this you i think that that's you kind of that's the type

04:41:28.720 of guy she likes yeah that actually is probably the skater boy type yeah exactly so your second boyfriend

04:41:35.040 one is six five yeah hold on um uh it's i don't know why uh

04:41:46.800 is this the home invasion

04:41:51.280 um i don't know if i have a type physically necessarily um but like someone in shape takes

04:42:09.200 care of himself uh i like men who are like ambitious generous uh thoughtful yeah that's

04:42:15.840 kind of my type

04:42:19.760 um yeah i think mine is just someone that respects me and um is a nice guy

04:42:28.160 i don't really care like i don't have

04:42:30.320 yeah you don't care about looks um i do i i mean

04:42:39.840 i don't have like a race preference or anything though um if you if i think you're attractive

04:42:46.240 yeah um i don't know i more about personality i'll not say i'll date anybody but if you make me

04:42:54.560 happy and you make me comfortable yes um i feel like i've gravitated towards more white men that

04:43:04.400 have i guess tattoos are turn on for me um i do like a dad bod i like some pudge pudge a little bit

04:43:10.320 of a belly um but no just be nice be a decent human and yeah that's about it my type is definitely like

04:43:19.040 like honestly like someone that kind of looks like me like i like blonde hair blue eyed like

04:43:23.760 six four is like the perfect height um and yeah obviously something that's like respectful but

04:43:31.600 i can do a brunette with blue eyes but preferably blonde

04:43:35.280 blue eyes it has to have blue it has to have blue eyes

04:43:39.440 you're thinking about your future children yes exactly and i want my kids to have blonde hair

04:43:43.600 blue eyes and you want your kids to be d1 athletes so your man has to be tall exactly

04:43:48.880 exactly that's that's right you know me

04:43:55.520 oh man nick did you overhear that

04:44:00.080 your name's retisha right yeah you have the most obnoxious friends

04:44:07.360 your your friends came to our studio because three of them called everybody all the residents

04:44:18.320 here on the call box wondering about you did you not tell like no they know so why are they

04:44:25.120 coming and harassing the other tenants at my building i have no did you you you told that but

04:44:32.320 you provided them with the address they have my location they're but so why are they here i i don't know

04:44:39.120 i don't have my phone with me

04:44:42.640 i'm i mean i'm sorry i just your friends are i'm gonna have to drop the arsler are

04:44:47.440 are fucking retarded

04:44:51.840 that's just so fucking weird anyways that's not necessary it kind of is when your friends are

04:44:57.200 harassing coming to the building and i have somebody knocking on my door saying yo there's three girls

04:45:02.960 outside but i i know i know it's not your fault but you don't have to use the arsler on that it's

04:45:10.160 kind of arsler it's a little like a miscommunication right what's the miss i have no you're literally

04:45:16.080 live on the on a podcast what is their concern i have no clue but i'm just saying like i don't know

04:45:21.040 can you do you have your phone on you can you see my purse like i they knew where it was it's like

04:45:27.840 i don't know it's just really peculiar behavior for them to be literally on the call box asking

04:45:34.480 every single tenant is per like that's so weird yeah i i don't i don't know like you're an adult you

04:45:44.160 communicated to them that you would okay i don't know um but i you know my property

04:45:50.880 manager nick could you hit the lights back there it's like interrupting the podcast it's just

04:45:56.320 your friends are really immature that's ridiculous um so sorry i have no clue what happened i don't

04:46:06.320 know i don't really have anything to say i mean it's it's not you that's doing it it's your friends

04:46:13.200 it's just like when you're it's so weird it's so fucking weird um i don't even know what it's just

04:46:20.880 i've never had that maybe they were concerned with where she's at but yeah you're like live streaming

04:46:24.800 on we're literally yeah like we've abducted they know you're here

04:46:30.560 i don't know maybe they didn't think about it i don't know no but with my property like these her

04:46:35.680 friends are literally harassing residents wondering where she's at so i don't know if you just didn't

04:46:41.200 communicate to them that you know that you're an adult and you would be gone for a couple of hours

04:46:46.000 no they know where i am they have my location like i i just i don't know i don't know what to say

04:46:51.760 did you instruct them to like to come get me to like come and no no of course not i don't know what

04:47:00.400 person in their right mind when okay whatever i sorry it's just frustrating guys because

04:47:08.880 ah um whatever um i don't know where were we what were we talking about

04:47:15.280 i think we're on time already who are missing down here down here

04:47:20.160 anyways um i guess i tend to go for taller guys like six one and above and i do like darker features

04:47:33.200 and darker skin men um and i do like tattoos so the just really quick the reason why i'm upset about

04:47:43.760 it you might not think it's a big deal like we are tenants here and like that kind of people like

04:47:49.360 strangers showing up to our building blowing up every single tenant in the building wondering where

04:47:55.600 you are puts us at risk with our landlord and potentially getting evicted no that's valid

04:48:01.520 so i don't know why your friends are making a huge scene yeah yeah no it's valid it just there's

04:48:08.320 nothing really i can i know i know you're not really to blame it's your friends but it's just like

04:48:13.040 really weird um and puts us in a bad position so that's why i'm kind of like frustrated about it um

04:48:22.160 so anyways okay let's move on um let's see i'm trying to remember where i was here

04:48:31.280 i don't i told you text them like should you grab your phone and just like yeah what's up

04:48:34.720 what's going on i mean what did the friends want is it an emergency i don't know maybe it's maybe you

04:48:38.640 should text them yeah i don't know what she's good she's literally sitting at the table we're having

04:48:44.640 a conversation like what the fuck holy shit log on to the live i know tell them to join the live

04:48:50.240 they knew i was going on the podcast like they know that like it was four minutes away from work like

04:48:55.360 they know that it's like right where like near where i live like i don't i don't know

04:48:59.040 do any of your friends or do they know your family at all my family yeah okay i mean i don't i don't

04:49:08.320 know what it could be it's just fucking super weird do you need to go check your phone no that's just

04:49:13.840 probably fine that's just probably fine it's pro i don't know what their deal is i i'd actually be

04:49:18.400 curious to like go fuck go fucking down there be like the fuck's your problem but they're still here

04:49:25.120 i don't know oh i do not know or is that just someone no that was that was my property manager

04:49:29.920 being like yo brian there's some crazy fucking girls out i don't know if he said he didn't say

04:49:34.560 crazy i'm being a little hyperbolic but he's like there's three girls who have called every single

04:49:39.360 tenant using the call box in the building asking about you i'm sorry i'm really sorry i'm really

04:49:47.600 sorry maybe she's getting trolled bro this is some like liberal snow weird snowflake

04:49:52.080 shit i don't know what the fuck is up with that like oh my my friend let me go check on her and

04:49:57.280 harass everybody in the fucking apartment complex i mean there could be something else snowflake

04:50:02.480 weirdos okay i'm not talking about you i'm talking about your goofy fucking dork ass friends

04:50:08.480 not you i'm talking about your friends you don't need someone to talk to you when some

04:50:12.800 shit goes wrong yeah because it really seems like it right now because you're like you're on one

04:50:17.440 yeah bro this is my business though she's cut oh no her friends are coming to my place of

04:50:22.320 business no i'm talking about fucking with my shit i'm a businessman you know i'm a businessman

04:50:27.360 because you find me at my places of business um this guy needs someone to talk to you i think

04:50:33.760 i don't know brian's tripping maybe you gotta go the property manager probably went down he's like

04:50:41.600 yo she's chill like she's good pull up the live stream or whatever but uh bro what the

04:50:46.800 fuck that's some weird shit son you you gotta get some new friends your friends are

04:50:51.200 fucking geek dorks what the fuck that's not necessary it's pretty necessary it's pretty pretty

04:50:56.560 pretty nice

04:51:00.560 just stay here nick get her phone for her grab your phone like what the

04:51:04.240 fuck is the deal where's your purse like let's get down to the bottom of this but yeah there's a

04:51:08.240 problem this is like it's the most obnoxious i'm sorry i'm sorry but there's yeah bothersome

04:51:15.280 irritating immature motherfucking shit i've had to injure yeah sure the big reveal

04:51:20.800 there's never a deal yeah we gotta know what the fuck's going on now okay yeah tell us have they

04:51:26.160 been texting you how they've been blowing up your phone what's going on

04:51:32.320 do you do you want to go get some boba

04:51:37.280 you want to get some boba where are you it's time for our time for our 10 p.m girls

04:51:44.720 late night sunset walk you guys want to go to bed for mo you need to get some did you find

04:51:51.040 that what did they say yeah it's just some like just nothing it's fine no no no no no no no no it's

04:52:00.400 just personal like it's just like that's do you need to go no it's fine it's fine it's just fine

04:52:05.120 no no no tell it you gotta tell us come on i can't i can't no that's is tell us give us

04:52:09.360 blank out the name some what it's not about like it's just it's just it was just my family it's

04:52:14.160 fine it's fine your family doesn't watch on this podcast no they don't okay no it's not about okay

04:52:18.400 it's just something okay it's fine okay wait it's about it's about your family no it's fine

04:52:25.840 do i have to like give yeah yeah yeah they came and i mean it was just something personal just

04:52:34.240 something happened they just what happened like wasn't in for i don't have to i don't have to

04:52:38.000 yeah you don't have to okay yeah but can you give us at least a little context i just said

04:52:41.760 something personal with my like i just said with your what but why do i have to like i'm sorry that

04:52:49.360 this it would be fair it would be fair to provide an explanation so i can at least have some closure

04:52:55.200 i'm very emotional right now i would appreciate some closure and your reluctance to provide me with

04:53:01.440 the closure i feel is going to leave me in a very vulnerable state um is it give us a hint

04:53:11.440 you don't have to tell us she probably doesn't want to tell us because she knows it's some like

04:53:16.320 bogus unimportant and she knows her friends were being nosy annoying twats that's why she doesn't

04:53:24.240 want to tell us what it actually is because you know your friends are in the wrong that's why you don't

04:53:29.120 i didn't say that they weren't in the wrong did i okay did i say can you answer this or not i said

04:53:33.760 i'm sorry can you answer this or not the reason the reason they needed to contact you what warranted

04:53:40.960 my mom was trying to contact me as well i don't know what it is because i'm sitting in the podcaster

04:53:46.000 you need to go call your mom it's fine i'm just saying no but you're i'm just saying how do your

04:53:51.280 roommates know about my parents your parents have contact with your housemates i've lived with my

04:53:57.360 roommates for like two years this is my second i'm very like i'm close with them like i i i didn't

04:54:03.280 say that what they did was like excused i said i'm sorry like i didn't mean to like that's like i

04:54:08.480 didn't want that to happen i wouldn't want to like put anything about you in jeopardy like i don't think

04:54:14.400 i need to like give out any information i feel like you don't want to give out just can you just

04:54:19.440 give us a hint what it's about you said is you said your mom's trying to get in touch my mom i have

04:54:24.880 like a missed call from like my mom one missed call but does your mom does your mom know you're

04:54:32.000 on the podcast no my mom doesn't know i'm in the podcast but but so your okay so i think i understand

04:54:37.840 your mom tried to call you you didn't pick up instead of your mom just thinking oh maybe she's

04:54:42.400 busy your mom goes into like oh my god she's been kidnapped no let me fucking i don't know your mom

04:54:48.400 didn't text you at all you want me to like get you that information and give it to you right now

04:54:52.480 can you just i'm just so i'm just really fucking curious is it what is it justified

04:54:58.560 like i just want to know if it's it doesn't matter even if it even if something happened that's not

04:55:03.520 justified that's not justified to do that they know where i am they know where my location is

04:55:08.080 please i need closure do you guys need closure i kind of need closure you don't need to tell me you

04:55:13.520 don't if there's a family emergency you don't need to i already said that what they did is not

04:55:17.600 justified i'm not agreeing with what they did but i don't need to give you something about my

04:55:21.920 my personal life like i don't know i don't need to know i'm just curious i'm agreeing with you that

04:55:26.560 what they did was not rational that's irrational to come banging and knocking on everyone's door

04:55:31.440 like that's not rational i'm agreeing with you but i don't need to give you this information that i

04:55:37.120 don't even really even know what's going on are they still here do you know if they're still here

04:55:41.760 can you at least find that out because you can you kindly tell them to off please

04:55:52.160 i love seeing this guy flip out on the show no i just look i'm i would like to be aware if

04:55:58.240 there's some sort of situation um okay whatever um let's see i'm trying to remember where we were

04:56:05.040 did we get any chats while that whole was we had grid one motorsports frank castle dude the girl has

04:56:10.720 not contributed much and you're better off having her gone bro look at her giggling like it's a joke

04:56:15.040 to mess with your business that's just i mean yeah it's kind of true i think she's giggling because

04:56:19.600 like i'm giggling she feels uncomfortable yeah she's been uncomfortable i i said it's just a weird

04:56:27.680 situation i said that like there's not much i can do i'm like i'm sorry i mean we've done like 110 of

04:56:34.960 these shows and we've never had someone coming it's just yo ab check thank you very much for the

04:56:42.800 gifted 50 memberships man thank you so much for your patronage really means the world thank you man

04:56:48.320 um okay so last thing here before we wrap up here very very soon so um

04:56:56.160 um i guess i could just okay you do you save i can't believe i saved this till the end you're

04:57:04.000 feminist studies right so you're a feminist you you've unleashed the uh my wrath i guess not really

04:57:12.320 i don't really it's fine whatever um so you're a feminist i would say so do you believe in the

04:57:18.720 patriarchy theory i thought we talked about this already we not really we didn't touch on it all

04:57:24.720 that much what do you think of men like in what in what sense like just in general yeah speaking to

04:57:32.400 the mic um like what do you think of the men they're they're fine i don't know like like what do you

04:57:40.400 want me to like no i'm just i mean some women are very anti-men or sorry i'm not anti-men excuse me

04:57:45.280 i meant to say some feminists are very anti-men i'm not saying all feminists are but there certainly

04:57:50.640 is a uh among a lot of feminists i would say there's a a uh non-negligible portion who i would

04:57:58.400 consider and most people would consider and some are even self-admitted uh misandrists man haters so

04:58:04.720 i'm just curious uh what your general view is like anti-men okay like hate men but you do you believe in

04:58:11.840 the patriarchy i think that there are some like patriarchal like systems that affect both men and

04:58:19.120 women okay like i'm not like all like only women are oppressed only like i don't okay i think i see

04:58:28.800 both sides okay gotcha um so do you think women are oppressed i wouldn't use the word oppressed but i

04:58:38.480 think there's certain issues that women face and there's different issues that men face in different

04:58:44.160 senses okay i can agree to that um do you think men have or do you think women have greater issues

04:58:52.480 than men have as a totality greater issues yeah nick can you close the doors a little bit it's getting a

04:58:58.080 little chilly no i don't think i think that once you start to compare issues that's when it kind of

04:59:03.200 it it puts one sex as a lower value than the next like than the other but isn't isn't that the

04:59:12.000 isn't that the genesis of feminism women have it worse than men do that's definitely how some people

04:59:20.080 view it but i like when i say i'm a feminist i kind of said said this before like i see it as like

04:59:25.760 like like like combating stereotypes that both men and women face to have like a better society that's

04:59:34.640 that's what i said okay like i'm not like only women have it hard only women deal with this like

04:59:43.920 that's how i see it okay what i mean do you think historically women were oppressed and men were the

04:59:49.360 women were the oppressed and men were the oppressors yeah that's a narrative i frequently hear i would say

04:59:58.000 that over time dynamic is different now but i think that women have definitely

05:00:09.680 been oppressed before like we see that in like different like we we've seen that like throughout

05:00:15.760 history in different ways like in like basic senses right like voting rights and like right to body

05:00:22.160 autonomy things like that right okay but um men were definitely oppressed in history as well but

05:00:29.360 it's just different because the oppressors were also in the same system as men like men were always

05:00:37.760 valued higher were they i would say so men were valued higher i think that the the system that oppresses

05:00:47.840 men were built by men wait the what like the like the oppression that men face like such as like

05:01:00.320 like need like having to go to the military things like that they're all set up by men like most of like

05:01:08.480 like history has been set up by men

05:01:13.040 okay so i think there's so do you think there's two ways that you can see it do you think if women

05:01:18.720 were in charge there wouldn't be war no i i don't think so that's that's a hard thing to kind of like

05:01:26.000 assume no you if you no you don't think if women were in charge are you saying so you're saying if i think

05:01:36.000 war is inevitable it's it's gonna happen leadership and position like we can't we can't sit here and

05:01:42.880 be like if women rule the world then this and this and this because that's never wouldn't it be

05:01:46.960 fair to say then that if women were in charge there would still be a military because you said well

05:01:53.040 men were in charge so they set up militaries no no no not military but like having to like serve in

05:01:58.400 the military not the military itself you don't think that there would be cons are you talking about

05:02:06.560 forced uh conscription is that what you're talking about like the fact that men have to

05:02:10.560 serve draft like yeah so you're thinking if no i was just bringing that up as an example okay sure yeah

05:02:17.840 okay like i think it's hard to to sit here and be like well if if the whole history was changed if

05:02:26.640 women were in power if this like that's we can't sit there and have that conversation because that's

05:02:30.960 not really we don't we don't know what that would look like we don't we don't we can't sit here and

05:02:36.080 be like if there were all women leaders no war would occur you know do you think there would be less war

05:02:42.160 i i i don't even think i can say that i don't think i can speak on that that's like okay that

05:02:50.400 that's a very broad you know what i mean like like what would you say to that like that's that's a

05:02:55.840 really broad statement i mean it's hard again it's hard to say but we do have some evidence to monarchies

05:03:04.160 uh and specifically i i mean there's been different monarchies throughout history but we actually do have

05:03:11.200 some evidence to suggest that queens were more likely to wage war than kings like like like great

05:03:19.440 britain well everyone loves anarchy what's that everyone loves anarchy even women men wait anark no

05:03:26.880 monarchy yeah i know anarchy and like the whole system no monarchy yeah i know they in why you know

05:03:32.480 you're saying anarchy though yeah i know i'm saying like women and like men despite war whatever

05:03:37.200 regardless everyone wants either to be on top or anarchy even in a monarchy you know what do you

05:03:44.000 see what i'm not really never mind then but but they have done like analysis of uh wars that have

05:03:50.880 been waged where there was a either a king or a queen and they did find that actually queens were more

05:03:56.720 likely not by a huge margin but were more likely to wage war than kings were

05:04:01.600 but i don't think you were even really making the art i mean you seem kind of vague on one or the

05:04:10.720 other i don't think i'm vague i'm just i don't think i'm just like anti-men like women should roll

05:04:16.480 rule the world like i don't think i just think i'm not like that you know what i mean like i think i'm

05:04:22.000 just not really like pushing for that type of argument to happen like i think

05:04:27.120 like history happened like we can't really sit here and have like a discussion of like women

05:04:33.280 ruling the world and like what would happen do you know what i mean

05:04:41.200 well no i mean not really because maybe we should try it and see how see how it goes but i mean we can

05:04:48.400 it's just like a hypothetical question like that would like be so multi-layered like what would that

05:04:54.400 look like what would that be what would like well one of the common discourses in feminist rhetoric

05:04:59.600 is this idea of male privilege that sort of ties into patriarchy theory feminine just core 10 in the

05:05:06.240 feminism so i'm like do you believe in male privilege and i'd like to go around the table if you guys

05:05:10.720 believe in this concept of male privilege let's start with you and then we'll go around me go ahead um

05:05:20.560 yeah i do okay male privilege as in like what sense like they i mean there's you've probably

05:05:28.720 heard the term male privilege sure i guess yeah no okay i feel like things are hard for everyone

05:05:35.040 that's fair i don't really have a take on it come on you have a take but okay go ahead yeah i believe

05:05:42.640 in male privilege you believe there's male privilege okay i agree with her i think like

05:05:48.080 i don't really have it i don't really have much of a take on it come on you got it you got a goddamn

05:05:54.160 take on anything you got to take sophie come on i believe in you come on um

05:05:59.520 i guess so yeah yeah yes i mean yeah it exists and it's gonna always be there i think i think

05:06:15.920 there's some male privilege but i think um women maybe a little bit more privileged especially

05:06:21.840 pretty privileged yeah that's a real thing women are probably more privileged than men i would say

05:06:26.800 okay yeah there's also i suppose there do you believe in going back around the table do you

05:06:32.080 believe in female privilege yeah absolutely 100 i think men are more respected but men are more

05:06:38.240 respected yeah but there are definitely more pretty privileged with women there's other privileges too

05:06:44.720 but women are way more privileged oh i agree that women are more privileged oh okay all right

05:06:51.600 what about you i think women are privileged more more than men or you think it's about the same maybe

05:06:57.440 men more privileged what do you think um i think i'm kind of in the middle i don't really know

05:07:09.280 me yeah um i think they're both privileged and different like in different ways is one more

05:07:15.520 privileged than the other historically i would say that men have always been more privileged but i would

05:07:22.480 say that now we see it in different ways especially in this like society where a lot is online and a lot of

05:07:30.000 like a lot of like like like as we talked about dating is really different for men and women

05:07:37.280 like i just think that privilege for women just looks differently than how privilege for men looks

05:07:42.960 how does privilege for men look i would say that it's like being more respected in a workplace being

05:07:49.120 more chosen over like being like already like assume that they're like smart or being already like

05:07:55.680 assume that there's like things like that like i would say that it's just that respect i think someone said

05:08:00.720 that uh ryan do you have uh do you believe in male privilege do you believe in female privilege

05:08:08.160 i think that both have their own privileges in very specific instances but i would argue that

05:08:15.680 women have more especially in today's society like yeah then there's different examples of that

05:08:25.920 right okay um i mean there's a whole bunch of ways i could approach this but i think the reality is

05:08:34.800 that both men and women face their own challenges however i would say that men's issues are ignored

05:08:40.800 downplayed or dismissed with an apathetic typically it's not our problem and men caused it uh men are

05:08:47.920 to blame for their own problems aka the patriarchy um while women's issues tend to be taken far more

05:08:54.240 seriously which i think is a privilege in and of itself um i mean that's why in every single university

05:09:03.200 in college in this country you have a feminist studies program a women's studies program a gender

05:09:10.000 studies program which looks at analyzes researches all of the ways in which women are disadvantaged

05:09:18.640 whether real or perceived and there is absolutely no corresponding program to address men's concerns

05:09:26.640 you look at governmental bodies there's typically not governmental bodies that have anything to do with

05:09:30.960 men but there's things that have to do with women's health you never see anything like that in

05:09:35.920 corporations it's the same exact thing there is i don't think there's a single college or university

05:09:42.000 in this country which has a men's studies program i think it's because the term feminist like the feminist

05:09:50.480 study should be men and women should it do you think it was appropriate that we when like for example fire men

05:09:59.520 we've we've we've changed that to firefighter or like policeman we've changed that to police officer

05:10:06.160 right so don't you think like in women often or excuse me feminists often argue about gendered terms

05:10:15.200 but in your in your political and ideological movement you have feminism that's a gendered term in your movement

05:10:23.600 so why not just i mean we we can talk about egalitarianism because we're trying not to be a

05:10:29.760 minority anymore like women are not a minority i mean we're just trying not to be population we're

05:10:35.680 trying to be less oppressed sorry i less impressed wrong term yeah how are because how are you oppressed

05:10:41.600 because we have been oppressed for a long time in the past and now we're trying to like how bring light to

05:10:47.360 it i mean i mean women weren't allowed to vote until like recently like 19 why 1918 and i believe is

05:10:57.200 ratified in 1920 so we've had a century of women being able to vote but okay but the fact that that

05:11:03.840 wasn't available do you see what how that well i what i would be prepared to argue is there was for the

05:11:11.440 vast majority majority of human history men weren't allowed to vote either there's maybe a hundred year

05:11:18.000 period where men were start it used to be a very small proportion of regardless of gender people

05:11:24.320 could vote yeah so it was a very small for the longest period of human history neither men or women

05:11:30.080 could vote it was a very small portion of history where men did there were more men that could vote than

05:11:36.080 women yeah and but part of that was because of men men were subject to military conscription and women

05:11:43.760 were not me personally in 19 in 1914 let me see how i want to tackle this i would have preferred not

05:11:54.320 having the right to vote in 1914 can you do you is there any reason why i might have let's say i was alive

05:12:02.160 at that point is there any reason why i might have not wanted the right to vote and the corresponding

05:12:07.680 uh responsibilities that came with it in that time period because you would have stayed at home you

05:12:12.320 would have been like the caretaker is that what you're kind of saying let me ask what happened in in

05:12:17.600 the later part of the uh from 1914 to 1918 what happened

05:12:22.160 like what do you mean from 1914 to 1918 what happened a lot

05:12:37.600 war there was there was a major okay okay so world war one was from 1914 to 1918 it was the most

05:12:46.080 up until that point it was the most brutal war that in that involved many many nations there was

05:12:54.160 there was uh chemical weapons trench warfare warfare that had a type of warfare that had never been

05:13:00.640 seen before um millions of casualties millions of deaths predominantly when it comes to military casualties

05:13:08.160 uh predominantly men uh part of being able to vote came that was a right or a privilege came with

05:13:18.400 corresponding responsibility and that responsibility was getting shipped off to

05:13:24.640 bellawood or amiens or art the ardenne forest or argonne and getting being in a trench getting

05:13:34.240 fucking trench foot getting chemical excuse me getting chemical gas by the germans and getting a

05:13:39.440 like a fucking mortar or a shell or a bullet in your fucking head yeah that's what men had to men had to

05:13:46.160 be uh exposed to in order to have the right to vote so me personally i would have it would have

05:13:53.760 actually been a privilege to not i don't know the privilege is the right term it's a privilege to get

05:13:59.040 to stay home and in idaho and not see the horrors of war so it's not clear to me if men were advantaged

05:14:07.360 when during a time period when men had the right to vote and women didn't because men's right to vote

05:14:14.240 came with a corresponding responsibility of being put through the meat grinder of war and being disposable

05:14:20.320 men have always been the disposable sex yeah i i agree but earlier you guys were saying well men are

05:14:26.400 more respected actually no women's lives have always been more valued than men's lives that's

05:14:32.320 why we we ship our young men to war and have them killed in the battlefield we're just men are

05:14:39.440 disposable women are valued men are disposable and you can't the the 20 million the the millions and

05:14:46.560 millions of deaths throughout the wars reinforce my position what you're saying is valid i'm just saying

05:14:53.120 in this day and age of respect versus value i feel like are kind of different like value over like

05:14:59.440 people always say like women and children first there's value right but i'm saying like respect

05:15:04.800 as in like just respect respect for men is like really different than respect for women i would

05:15:11.200 actually argue that men are less respected than women you can you can be a misandrist and not get any

05:15:19.360 backlash you can you can say some real man-hating shit and people just think it's a joke but if you

05:15:26.240 were to say that shit about women like yeah those are issues that that men face okay they're constantly

05:15:32.160 being like which is reinforced by feminists yeah but i'm saying that my definition like i thought like

05:15:39.920 we went over this like what when i say i'm a feminist that's what i meant like okay but you're kind of

05:15:45.680 bringing up this generalized term of feminism that i already said like i didn't really agree with

05:15:52.240 i i don't think are you just like talking about feminism in general well i don't think i'm

05:15:55.440 misrepresenting the feminist position because my understanding is the core tenant of feminism which

05:16:01.360 is taught in any university feminism class feminist class is patriarchy theory male privilege all these

05:16:10.640 other terms and like if your position is that society is is a male dominated dominated society if

05:16:21.520 women are oppressed men are to blame men are the oppressors women are the oppressed if that is the

05:16:27.680 central message that you're communicating to to people then in my view that is that is a pretty

05:16:34.880 man-hating ideology to tell young women that men are to be blamed for all the either real or perceived

05:16:44.240 grievances of the past and present you're teaching women to have contempt and hatred for men because

05:16:50.800 you're teaching women that they are oppressed and men are the oppressors if you are if you're teaching

05:16:57.760 this brain rot to people then of course if you believe that men are oppressors and you're oppressed

05:17:03.920 you're not going to feel you're not going to think anything positive about men i i don't think i said

05:17:11.920 any of like i don't think i like i'm not sure if that's your position are you just saying in general

05:17:16.480 like that that's the mainstream feminist position patriarchy theory male privilege that's like

05:17:21.360 mainstream that is in textbooks

05:17:23.280 okay wow that was one motorsports donated one hundred dollars first you need to ban the word

05:17:34.320 like if i heal like one more time i might like freak like dot seriously second the delusion these

05:17:41.440 privileged women have about any sort of male privilege is like amazing the only privilege i have as a man is

05:17:47.840 to work hard and die word i mean really quick on male privilege i i just think if males have privilege

05:17:54.960 and there's a patriarch patriarchy how can it be that more men die in war men are forced into war men are

05:18:01.840 less likely to go to college men are less likely to graduate from college more men die on the job more

05:18:07.440 men are incarcerated more men are homeless more men delete themselves i i'm failing to see where the

05:18:13.040 male privilege is where the patriarchy is so i don't know i have a question for you like in your

05:18:19.920 studies do they talk about how women oppress other women or did they just talk about like the like the

05:18:26.320 women like stereotypes that are like pushed on by other women yeah yeah we've like definitely talked

05:18:32.000 about that what's like the take on that because i mean we talked about men oppressing women right

05:18:36.880 that's like the whole thing but like i feel like women are the ones who oppress women i mean there's

05:18:41.920 definitely like stereotypes i think women like put on to each other like like this idea that like

05:18:48.160 women can't get along or like women can't be friends like they're always gonna be jealous or like catty

05:18:52.560 towards each other i think that's like kind of based off of like like the like sorry like the idea

05:19:00.160 that like women are always battling each other like this like jealousy that like women face within each

05:19:05.680 other i think that's definitely stemmed by like women's just like like internalized like issues that

05:19:12.800 like have been like like growing because of this the type of society that we live in like the way that

05:19:22.400 like we always like we feel the need to have like a certain type of presence or we feel the need to like

05:19:27.920 look a certain way i think that's definitely like reinforced by a lot of different things like i personally just for me

05:19:35.760 my like study and what i believe in is not like anti-men men have like messed this whole world like

05:19:44.000 that's just not me like i think i'm very open to the idea of like the influences of both men and women

05:19:50.400 onto each other that affect each other which is why he brought up all those things like the amount of

05:19:55.520 men that the that delete themselves like it's like it's like there's a lot of issues that like men face

05:20:04.000 that have been placed on them because a lot of people don't value what they go through to a certain

05:20:11.360 extent people are always like well you know that doesn't really matter like they're sad or that doesn't

05:20:16.880 matter like they'll get over it like things like that like there's a lot of issues that both men and

05:20:21.680 women face that i think people kind of get lost in this idea of like what feminism is and i think

05:20:28.400 it's very it's very subjective it means a lot of different things now especially so

05:20:34.400 um i have a question for you sure what problems do you think women face what problems do i think women

05:20:42.160 face yeah like

05:20:43.200 i mean i'm i don't really uh

05:20:53.920 i mean if you're a woman i mean it depends what your political leanings are but

05:21:01.120 there are some women who are pro-choice and in some states some women can't get an abortions but

05:21:07.040 however if you're a pro-lifer you don't really see that as but for some women i suppose that

05:21:13.680 could be an issue for some women of course there are women who are pro-life who that's not an issue for

05:21:17.760 them um you in some regions you can't go topless i'm all for free the titty movement i'm all about free

05:21:26.400 the titty um so that that is one way women that is one honestly that's the only right that men have

05:21:33.760 that women don't i think in this country it's just show your titties is women men can go topless it is

05:21:40.720 true men can go topless women can't that shit is unfair and i'm all for it y'all can see the

05:21:47.120 fucking titty so you don't think women have any real issues well i do i mean okay so when we're talking

05:21:53.680 about from like a rights perspective i think we have equality i can't think of any rights that men have

05:22:01.440 that women don't now are on a societal level are there there's probably yes there are probably

05:22:08.800 things that women face that men don't and vice versa um but tip what typically when we're talking about

05:22:15.920 women's rights like i'm talking about rights like we're talking about rights so i think do men and women

05:22:25.200 face specifically gendered issues yes but there's this whole trope of i'm fighting for women's rights

05:22:32.240 which ones it's not clear to me that men have any rights that women don't don't at this point i guess

05:22:40.400 the pro-choice you know uh pro-life thing you know i think some women can argue you know that a man is

05:22:45.920 deciding what they can do with their body not really well men can't get pregnant so i feel like that's not

05:22:51.040 really a a realistic because men can't get pregnant it's not clear to me men don't you could actually

05:22:59.760 make a very compelling argument that men are disadvantaged on the reproductive rights front

05:23:05.840 because men have absolutely zero reproductive rights if you're you get your girlfriend pregnant

05:23:11.520 and she wants to keep the kid you don't have a say if she wants to get rid of the kid you don't

05:23:15.440 have a say yeah no i'm not i'm not making i'm not making an argument for one or the other but we

05:23:21.680 don't in either direction we don't we don't have any reproductive rights so it's not clear to me if it's

05:23:27.200 uh a right that the man has that a woman doesn't because we don't have any reproductive rights to begin

05:23:33.280 with so yeah well i think the argument is you know a woman should be able to decide what she does you

05:23:40.160 you know with her body i don't think well that's a separate thing but it's it's it's not a equal

05:23:45.200 rights thing i don't think because i mean rights to bodily autonomy like just well men have a

05:23:53.520 different bodily autonomy i don't think that's something you compare i think it's just something

05:23:58.480 that's like yeah women just don't have that ability to make that choice well depending on your state

05:24:03.600 depending on the state on your state but men also can you we can make the argument that men actually have

05:24:08.960 a stronger bodily autonomy argument when it comes to military conscription yeah that that's the whole

05:24:17.440 like topic of that men have a different women have a different right but the difference i would say

05:24:24.400 the difference i would say that the difference is is that of course there are women who get assaulted

05:24:30.080 but like i would most abortions it's like consensual sex didn't mean to get pregnant um

05:24:37.920 so you chose to have sex whereas men their bodily autonomy argument is the state the government

05:24:45.360 coming in and saying okay you're drafted we're shipping you to the middle east who knows what's

05:24:50.560 going to happen with this current war there who knows you should compare though do you know what

05:24:56.000 i'm saying like what do you mean like i don't think we should compare we don't have to compare

05:25:00.000 oh i thought no i just why we could i i think i think i just thought i think you just said that

05:25:05.360 like it like men have well we're talking about bodily autonomy and women women or feminists might say

05:25:12.560 well men don't have a concern like a bodily autonomy concern but we actually do when it comes to forced

05:25:18.640 military conscription oh also also um here again bodily autonomy most men in this country are circumcised

05:25:29.120 upon birth without consent so i mean that's another bodily autonomy argument and so

05:25:38.160 yeah it's it's funny you laugh you laugh but literally men's penises are mutilated upon birth

05:25:43.200 without informed consent so i mean does wait so um when you're circumcised does that like affect how

05:25:52.240 like what does that affect well i can't i don't know the specific statistics on this

05:25:58.160 but my understanding is that there is a a percentage rate when it comes to botched

05:26:07.760 circumcisions so some men lose their penis some men have injury when they are circumcised i i don't think

05:26:14.480 it's certainly not the majority but there are certainly botched circumcisions um i think for a

05:26:19.600 greater portion of men they might lose uh some pleasure or sensitivity that they otherwise would

05:26:25.360 have in during sexual activity um but then it also just comes down to choice um

05:26:32.880 i think and it's probably to some degree i think it could inflict some sort of trauma because i mean

05:26:39.440 you're inflicting physical pain on the newborn we don't know what kind of mental trauma that might

05:26:45.680 impact on a child maybe there's none i don't know they i don't know if they've done studies on it

05:26:52.400 but i don't think we should be mutilating uh newborns so and and i don't think there's actually

05:27:00.640 a very strong claim to this like hygiene thing uh i think people there's plenty of men who live in

05:27:06.640 other countries who are not circumcised who can observe good hygiene when it comes to their parts so

05:27:14.080 um that's another bodily autonomy component so yeah i mean you guys laugh but like literally if you

05:27:21.840 think about it newborn newborn males are getting their genitals mutilated upon birth so you wouldn't

05:27:27.280 circumcise your son no no i would not so don't people do that for like religious reasons yeah sure

05:27:36.240 there's religious reasons some people just do it it's an aesthetic thing for aesthetic or yeah yeah i

05:27:42.800 like there's i don't there's no real benefits like i i sure but i don't think it's there but i i just

05:27:49.600 don't think the pro pros outweigh the cons so yeah i don't know um yeah so i'm trying to remember where

05:28:00.160 we're going oh bodily autonomy yeah i mean hot take i would say that um forced military conscription is

05:28:07.520 worse than um roe v wade being repealed i just don't think we would compare

05:28:16.480 because it's like i i'm not a man you're not a woman do you know what i mean you're like it's well

05:28:22.480 i mean i think regardless of our i feel like i think i feel like it it's just hard to compare two

05:28:29.120 different things that are just like on opposite ends well i mean you i suppose you can't make

05:28:35.360 some comparisons because it is a bodily autonomy thing so yeah force i think forced military

05:28:40.480 conscription is a worse infliction upon men than uh the current state of abortion rights in this country

05:28:50.480 without making a statement on abortion rights i just think

05:28:52.880 like this is something you're forced to do whereas like again yes there are some women who

05:28:57.920 are essayed but most women who get abortions it was from perfectly consensual sex

05:29:07.680 so the difference is is that the state the government can come in force you to go to war

05:29:12.560 but nobody's forcing you to have sex that's your opinion it's not my opinion it's fact

05:29:18.480 okay you think it's my opinion i'm saying it's your opinion that you think that oh you're that

05:29:24.400 that i think it's a greater that forced military conscription is a greater grievance than abortion

05:29:29.440 rights yeah that's your what do you do you disagree do you think one is more i just don't think that

05:29:34.880 that there should be like a comparison that's personally how i see it because i think that once

05:29:39.280 you start comparing it then it's just like well i think you can make comparisons you can make

05:29:44.320 comparisons but when you see value like what's worth like then i think that the subject i don't

05:29:50.320 know i just but that's the whole concept of male privilege female privilege and of that's pretty

05:29:55.440 much the the bedrock of feminism we as women have been disadvantaged in comparison to men we desire equal

05:30:04.080 treatment in comparison to men and i'll tell you this there's not feminists that are fighting for

05:30:10.720 equalization of military conscription and you might say well we haven't had the draft in a long time

05:30:15.440 i'll tell you this when it comes to the vietnam war there are men that would be alive today that aren't

05:30:20.720 because of forced military conscription and there are men alive today that were uh conscripted in the

05:30:26.640 military that have ptsd who've lost limbs because they went to vietnam and they saw horrific

05:30:34.400 things or they got a fucking shell in their head or whatever so do you think it's also because

05:30:39.840 like what that guy had said about you know like obviously in war you need someone who's like

05:30:44.560 stronger faster if all these other countries are sending their strongest okay you know soldiers

05:30:49.680 obviously women we don't stand a chance like we if we're gonna fight these other countries we have

05:30:54.560 to send men well sure there is a there is a practical and a pragmatic component of well just based on pure

05:31:00.880 biological reality that men have greater upper body strength and you know whatever it may be but wait do you

05:31:07.440 think that just consensus on this are men generally speaking physically stronger than women yeah yes

05:31:14.240 yes okay because some feminists are like actually okay um but i mean i would make the argument that you

05:31:22.400 can also have conscription for support roles so women should be conscripted too but you don't see

05:31:28.320 feminists in the street fighting for equal equalization of military conscription actually they fight against it

05:31:33.920 actually a lot of feminist organizations will fight against equality if said equality comes to

05:31:40.240 the detriment of women that's why i don't think feminism is about equality i think in the most generous

05:31:46.800 if i can paint feminism in the most good light it is it is women's advocacy there's nothing wrong with

05:31:56.240 women's advocacy but let's not get it twisted with equality so what i'm my thing with feminism is

05:32:02.320 feminists will fight for equality only if women benefit from said equality if said equality would come to

05:32:08.880 the detriment of women feminists will not fight for it military conscription a lot of like uh custody

05:32:17.600 things women will or feminist organizations will push against it reformation of alimony laws feminist

05:32:25.280 organizations push against it in florida there was a uh a law to equalize custody of children

05:32:32.800 uh i think it was the national organization for women which was one of the leading women's and

05:32:37.840 feminist organizations in this country in florida they they campaigned against the bill to equalize

05:32:44.480 uh shared custody

05:32:47.680 so again feminists will fight against equality if that equality could in some way conceivably come to

05:32:53.600 the detriment of women

05:32:56.560 so i don't really think feminism is about equality i think it's about women's advocacy in the most generous

05:33:02.560 light

05:33:06.560 triggered

05:33:08.560 no no no i mean yeah i'm happy that if you guys want to rebuke or rebuke me or disagree what you're

05:33:15.280 saying is valid and i know a lot of people in this room probably don't agree but what you're saying is

05:33:19.840 valid i think i saw what what's that one movie about like the feminist movement is it the red

05:33:27.680 pill i don't know i don't know if it's necessarily called the red pill but it does

05:33:31.600 you know kind of speak on like you know

05:33:34.960 you know alimony and like child support and yeah how like there really is a war on men and

05:33:40.320 i don't agree with all of it but i do um yeah i do see you know your point of view i'll say this

05:33:47.920 i'll say this there are no feminists when world war three starts

05:33:51.520 a lot of you guys want equal rights equal rights equal fights no i'm kidding anyways but yes

05:33:59.520 i mean like look at ukraine all the women could leave the country all the men had to stay from the

05:34:05.920 the age of 18 to i think 60 or 65 you as a man could not leave the country if you're a woman

05:34:12.800 you could leave that's why you know it's so crazy oh feminism this feminism that when it

05:34:18.080 fucking comes down to it when it comes down to the fight when it comes down to russia invading your

05:34:24.240 country there's no feminists anymore all the women while all their men in ukraine were dying

05:34:32.320 getting killed all the women went to stockholm sweden and were in the club partying getting

05:34:38.160 drunk they went to the uk they went to sweden they went wherever they get to they get to continue

05:34:44.640 their hot girl summer while russia did 99 dollars for the itty bitty titty committees and take ole bitty

05:34:53.200 middies what do you do if you were an hour late to a date and he takes you to the cheesecake factory

05:34:58.720 oh we should react to that more like crack walk the was that hashtag me it's

05:35:04.560 hashtag feminism so to speak um what do you do if you were an hour i i saw that video i want to react

05:35:13.920 to it in one of our future streams um so what's the his question is would you guys object to a guy

05:35:21.200 taking it to taking you to the cheesecake factory on the first date wait no there was more to the

05:35:26.320 question there was something about being an hour late okay would you here just would you object if

05:35:32.400 a guy took you to the cheesecake factory on the first date no i love the cheesecake factory i think

05:35:37.760 that's a legit that's a fine date i mean good place pretty solid

05:35:43.920 anybody okay all right all right we have a jack i'll message you later for our date

05:35:50.400 see you soon i'll be waiting she will be waiting okay i think we're all wrapped up uh final question

05:35:56.160 here before oh yeah guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops the follow drops the prime prime

05:36:01.040 stuff thank you guys um okay last question before we wrap up wait let me just make sure yeah i think

05:36:07.280 we're good on that um body count should do you object to men caring about body count let's start with you

05:36:18.320 i'll start with you yeah oh me yeah yeah go ahead caring about body count um i guess i'm like i've

05:36:28.000 always just been curious with anyone i've dated what their body count is

05:36:33.840 okay yeah i agree with her um yeah i don't blame them for judging someone off body count because i would

05:36:39.680 do the same thing okay yeah i think men should definitely ask your body count and you should be

05:36:44.480 truthful about it yeah i think we should both be curious i guess so but i feel like it's so like

05:36:52.640 high school yeah like i honestly like i don't give a shit anymore about body count what if a guy

05:37:01.280 didn't want to date you because of your body count what do you think he's like kind of insecure

05:37:04.960 or kind of immature it's stupid like it's stupid okay okay what about you i mean yeah i disagree with

05:37:13.520 them honestly word what about you uh a man's body count isn't as important as a woman's body count

05:37:20.720 isn't as important yeah like i don't really care about a man's body count but i mean julia disagrees

05:37:25.600 with you over here by the way but i do think a woman's body count is much more important i feel like

05:37:30.960 part of a woman's value is you know kind of like your purity and yeah if you're just

05:37:35.120 a bunch of dudes i don't think society is gonna see you as valuable yeah okay you're no longer a high

05:37:45.040 value woman yeah sorry yeah it's kind of fucked but i mean that was her words sorry i apologize but it

05:37:54.560 kind of it is what it is right wait okay so question if body count doesn't matter what's your

05:38:00.720 body count starting with you i thought we all said it does matter no no oh i thought it doesn't matter

05:38:08.000 yeah it doesn't matter okay you know if you want to share that's fine no anybody here want to share

05:38:13.680 your body five five three um nine okay range do you want to give us a range like not an exact number

05:38:27.520 but it's below five okay do you want range for you no i think she's triggered by all the yeah are you a

05:38:35.120 little triggered i'm just tapped she's tapped there you go what about you no comment

05:38:40.080 rhino 100 plus digital footprint you just had a ho did you have a ho phase ryan you still have a

05:38:50.320 ho phase you're in a ho phase right now i have not i didn't have a ho phase i think i just started

05:38:56.640 and then boom it was done all right we're gonna wrap up the show uh before i wrap last call speak now

05:39:05.120 forever hold your peace anything anybody final thoughts i'm really sorry about interrupting your

05:39:11.360 podcast i feel really bad i'm really sorry i i'm still really curious can i please have closure

05:39:21.840 i have no clue like i i need to figure out too you know but i just feel bad i'm sorry okay

05:39:28.560 accept the apology i mean she didn't you didn't really do anything wrong i know but i'm just saying

05:39:37.760 on behalf like that wouldn't have happened if i wasn't here you know yeah it's not your fault but

05:39:42.720 it's just like i know but i'm sorry it's kind of like if you're someone's friends does something kind

05:39:47.200 of like i don't know i'm just curious like can we just let it go no not really i'm i'm uh i hold on to

05:39:56.720 grudges sorry sophie sorry okay guys last call hit the like button please on your way out who we're

05:40:03.680 gonna rate on twitch thank you for tuning in tonight uh let me just double check everything here

05:40:09.200 we have hold on i'm gonna those of you on twitch

05:40:14.720 oh he got a big dick oh yeah

05:40:16.560 hold on guys i don't know why this is off

05:40:25.200 sorry guys hold on i'm trying to get to my uh stream manager here i don't know what

05:40:31.520 how did this get all tweaked that's so weird uh one sec guys one sec one sec

05:40:38.320 it's not working um

05:40:45.920 any anybody want a final thought before while i'm trying to get this thing figured out

05:40:51.520 anybody

05:40:53.360 vegas quick little 30 second vegas story i'm trying i'm just doing a little tech thing right

05:40:57.520 here i don't know why it's not working

05:40:58.960 they better man the dirty pussy girl

05:41:00.720 who's dirty pussy remember i was at the table and she like spread her legs

05:41:05.920 and then like wafted her uh dress and then like the stench came out oh god no i was not yeah

05:41:14.000 post day club didn't go shower went straight to the night club

05:41:17.760 she smelled herself and i was like that's kind of gross

05:41:22.160 that's it um i think everybody should subscribe to anisa's only fans yes please disavow

05:41:28.160 can i please plug her disavow shout out to boy toy appreciate you

05:41:33.200 disavow okay disavow okay well it's not working so i don't know why i i'm not able to do this thing

05:41:40.560 on twitch so unfortunately twitch we're not going to be able to raid anybody do you know if there's a

05:41:44.080 way like can i just do raid who's hold on let me sorry guys i'll get this figured out real quick

05:41:51.200 who's live on twitch uh guys in twitch chat are you able to just type slash raid and name okay i'll

05:41:57.440 just do that um who's live aussie oh there's not really here we'll do uh frost adamus he's playing

05:42:04.480 world of warcraft uh hardcore i think so those of you on twitch thank you for tuning in on twitch

05:42:11.200 i'm gonna go raid a world of warcraft giga chad uh frost uh domus okay let's see if that works

05:42:21.280 okay got it cool okay guys so thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world

05:42:26.400 but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports

05:42:29.760 the show thank you to the panel any women who want to be on the show dm out whatever we will be live

05:42:34.400 again sunday with uh where these next few panels i think are going to be pretty stacked so be sure

05:42:40.240 to tune in 5 p.m pacific and let me get that raid going okay i'm raiding now thanks again guys

05:42:46.400 oh sevens in the chat for uh let me just see it did it raid i think it raided okay oh sevens in the

05:42:53.520 chat guys we will see you next time good night see you later what what what what

Whatever Podcast - October 18, 2023

She SLASHED His Tires But HOOKED UP After？! ｜ Dating Talk #110

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