Whatever Podcast - She MISSED Her Ex While MARRIED？! Her Past DOES NOT Matter？! Andrew Wilson IRL!

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00:03:20.100 my name is alissa i'm 28 i'm a real estate agent and i also own a cleaning a residential cleaning llc

00:03:27.340 and i live in austin all right welcome back what about you hi i'm bella online i go by bella cakes

00:03:35.980 um i'm from michigan i'm 21 and i do only fans and i also work at a coffee shop oh you're from

00:03:42.380 michigan yes have you and andrew uh crossed i didn't know that you were from michigan but

00:03:48.040 all right what about you or actually i'm sorry uh what do you do on only fans um i do sexual content

00:03:56.020 well no shit well yeah but like i just do like well i mean like some people do like you know

00:04:01.800 general but i mean just like what do you mean by like what do you do like girl solo content oh i

00:04:06.960 mean i do i do solo and with my boyfriend okay got it what about you my name is jamie i'm 24 i'm from

00:04:14.520 uh santa barbara california i'm um kind of in a break for work i'm doing uh stay-at-home parenting

00:04:22.120 yeah santa barbara california uh what were you doing for work before that i was a para-educator

00:04:31.060 okay uh oh and schooling uh have you gotten your bachelor's or no a couple years at the city

00:04:39.060 college yeah a couple years at city college what about you any school um i am in college right now

00:04:44.860 but i studying i'm studying marketing but i prefer not to like talk about that stuff well you don't you

00:04:51.280 don't need to tell us where you go yeah yeah yeah so you're studying your major is marketing yes and

00:04:56.860 then schooling for you yeah i'm halfway through with my elementary education degree all right do

00:05:02.120 you have a bachelor's yet or no no no but that's what i'm going towards also i mean i have like a

00:05:06.940 certification to be a real estate agent because you have to go to school for that too got it

00:05:11.880 i'm yakka i'm 35 uh i sell gold and silver and i am in bastrop texas it's a small town about 45

00:05:21.340 minutes outside of austin and any school i went to culinary school like 14 years ago okay all right

00:05:29.080 silver and gold yeah yeah with uh any copper you sell copper no but i i usually give out copper for

00:05:37.320 like with orders titanium palladium okay all right what about you i'm toria brooke i'm 31 and i'm a

00:05:47.620 citizen journalist and i also work for a senior advisor to president trump all right and i'm in

00:05:52.740 palm beach county and uh age 31 31 okay what about you hi my name is hetty i'm 30 years old i'm originally

00:06:00.820 from los angeles area but i moved to salt lake city with my husband about four years ago and i'm in

00:06:06.500 between jobs right now but i have a background and i have an art history degree and i'm in uh worked in

00:06:10.300 interior design previously so i'm just trying to find my footing see what i want to do stay at home

00:06:15.140 wife all right uh i'm morgan i'm 18 i go to santa barbara city college majoring in poli sci all right

00:06:22.440 andrew yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's a popular entertainment channel

00:06:27.700 on youtube i'm a political analyst political satirist and uh i engage in conversations and debates from time

00:06:35.300 to time all right i'm brian atlas 35 santa barbara california occupation washed up over the hill has

00:06:43.020 been youtuber and uh so uh welcome everybody so we're gonna go around the table and get everybody's

00:06:51.300 relationship status so are you like single in a relationship married whatever it is uh if you're

00:06:57.080 single how long you've been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead

00:07:00.440 i'm single uh the longest relationship i had been in was five years was that your marriage yeah

00:07:07.760 so i guess i'm divorced well but sort of because he did file for a retrial but it's gonna also end

00:07:16.600 in divorce i don't know oh hey jay nico for donated two hundred dollars yo thank you brian

00:07:23.840 for our conversation please accept this donation as part of your legal defense fund i appreciate you

00:07:30.720 and andrew and all that you do let's go boys get those legal donations in hey really uh appreciate

00:07:37.720 it uh nico sorry if i'm not pronouncing your name right but uh thank you so much man uh we'll talk more

00:07:42.940 uh on uh instagram thank you man uh single the divorce is finalized because last time you were on

00:07:51.160 sure i believe it was still kind of yeah it was being worked out or yeah yeah and who filed me okay

00:07:57.500 yeah and then okay uh what about oh um and that was your longest relationship right yes how long

00:08:05.940 when did the divorce go through it was finalized in july but we've separated separated for a long time

00:08:12.180 yeah since yeah january you'll have to give us uh a recap actually yeah why don't you just give us a

00:08:19.520 recap on that whole thing okay um

00:08:24.180 i met i met my husband through a mutual friend um i came over to his house twice and then kind of just

00:08:32.340 never left and um we got married and had two kids and then divorced well i filed for divorce we split up

00:08:43.600 like a year ago essentially and um have not seen or talked to him since i've you know tried reaching

00:08:50.480 out on behalf of the kids to no avail um he didn't show up to the divorce the the first divorce trial

00:08:57.880 so um i think he probably thought that like i wouldn't go through with it and if he just waited

00:09:02.840 me out it wouldn't happen but it did and then like two days after we get the divorce decree essentially

00:09:08.780 he files for a retrial and suddenly has a lawyer and like you know is fighting that now so um we're

00:09:15.980 prepping to go to trial again i mean it defaulted to you right because you didn't show up yeah yeah

00:09:22.700 so that's why he filed um yeah yeah what'd you get did you get everything i did so the only things that

00:09:31.000 i asked for is like things that we agreed to before i filed um he has the house because he owned it before

00:09:36.260 we were married and um i just asked for regular standard order custody which is for people who

00:09:42.920 don't know he would get them every other weekend that's standard in texas um i kept my car he kept

00:09:48.580 his vehicles and like he pays their health insurance and stuff metro thank you for the gifted 20 go ahead

00:09:56.060 continue um and then when it comes to child support like he didn't pay it but after he filed for

00:10:04.680 retrial i got it like once yeah so what i'm a little confused here so when you say um he didn't

00:10:11.420 pay child support was it court ordered child support okay and like no financial support of the kids

00:10:20.740 essentially since i left have you seen him at all no i've emailed him i've called him

00:10:27.220 i actually just called him on their birthdays um because their birthdays just passed and he didn't

00:10:34.620 answer so then i sent a follow-up email and he didn't answer that either he's

00:10:39.160 but that's okay they're doing great because they're like that's like that got kind of heavy

00:10:46.780 there for a second yeah a little bit yeah um wait so there is a child support order though from the

00:10:52.920 court yes and i got it once um but that's you know that's the extent of any involvement

00:10:59.720 he is asking for full custody now which is absurd but

00:11:04.000 like i feel like it's an intimidation tactic though

00:11:09.300 yeah i didn't expect it started out uh a bit heavier than you yeah uh what what was he ordered

00:11:23.320 to pay you um 2300 a month okay plus back child support if i recall he's he's well off yes he

00:11:33.340 earns a substantial income yes but he was not well off when we met because last time like the comments

00:11:39.280 accused me of like marrying a rich man and then forcing him to have kids that is not how it

00:11:42.720 happened he was like crippled when we met because he had just had back surgery but he like progressively

00:11:47.660 um made more money as we got together because he's an old field electrician and so then he went 1099

00:11:53.740 about two years into us being married and that's when he really started making money but he's the one

00:11:57.680 who wanted kids too so so he paid the child support once yeah when was the child support order granted

00:12:06.420 officially in july okay um and then in september i got it once um yeah because everybody was like oh

00:12:16.560 yeah she's probably big ball and like where please tell me where well i mean just because he doesn't

00:12:22.480 pay it doesn't mean he doesn't owe it yeah he owes it so you simply need to see your case manager go to

00:12:29.720 the court yeah i mean but there's a lot of people that are like hundreds of thousand dollars

00:12:34.020 and back child support debt that never pay it so i mean but i don't think he'll get to that point

00:12:41.400 though because he has well you can't get you can't get blood from a stone but

00:12:44.860 he's financially well off so there are methods by which the court can

00:12:50.860 he's asking yeah but that's why he's asking for full custody now so he won't have to pay it

00:12:56.660 but they're not that doesn't happen he's not going to get full custody he might get shared like

00:13:02.340 50 50 at best but yeah in his mind that's what's going to happen okay all right uh what about you

00:13:10.640 um i am in a relationship and my longest relationship was two and a half years

00:13:16.140 all right is that your current relationship no um i have only had two relationships so the longest one

00:13:23.320 was the two and a half years and then the current one i got with him in around well we started

00:13:29.060 officially dating in june so it's been about a few months now okay so uh four months yeah

00:13:37.700 four months all right how did you guys meet tinder tinder all right and uh really going back to you

00:13:45.940 really quick so there's been no guys in the picture uh no recently yeah there has oh okay

00:13:51.440 i started do you have a roster no no i i see one person at a time um and then if i start like

00:13:59.060 if i'm interested in one person i just kind of cut off everybody else i started dating like a few

00:14:03.520 months ago maybe like in august um and there was one guy that i was seeing for a little bit and um

00:14:08.700 do you want me to hop into the x thing like or the crazy or wait for the dating stories for that one

00:14:17.340 uh so i like was seeing one guy

00:14:22.900 ish like not anything serious no label put on it just getting to know each other whatever

00:14:29.420 um but then i had a house break in so i was like i have an ex that has my handgun and i had another

00:14:39.020 gun but it's broken like the trigger is all the way back like it won't and that's very dangerous so

00:14:44.000 can't use that um and haven't gotten it fixed yet anyway had a house break in and i was content

00:14:49.840 leaving the gun with my ex for the last few years and like you know because he lives like several

00:14:56.500 hours away like four hours away um but after that i was like i'm going to get my gun and i don't care

00:15:02.100 how how it ends up i'm leaving with my gun and um so then yeah so then i like ran into my ex and then

00:15:09.220 i guess we're talking now

00:15:12.120 by talking you mean like it's like brand new so um there's an ex boyfriend

00:15:22.840 gloctavius donated two hundred dollars why is it that if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men

00:15:30.920 she's a sloat but if a man does the same thing then he's gay that's um that's a really good point

00:15:40.380 wow gloctavius um double standards are messed up that's pretty bad yeah yeah messed up okay um

00:15:48.780 we can get into more of your stuff later what about you i am not single i've been in a relationship

00:15:54.900 for three years that's the longest relationship i've ever been into okay and uh that's also your

00:16:01.820 longest not married though okay uh you have a child is that correct yeah he's two and a half years old

00:16:07.960 okay and is it with your current partner yeah okay and uh wait two and a half years old but you've been

00:16:15.220 together for three years a little over three years a little over three years okay so you got knocked up

00:16:22.560 on the first date yeah it happened pretty fast actually looking back it's um pretty funny but

00:16:30.740 yeah like so you think it was like within the first week of meeting yeah you got pregnant and then we

00:16:38.600 moved in uh together like around then too just immediately after meeting each other have you guys

00:16:44.580 ever been like has it ever been on again off again or it's always been not really no no like we've

00:16:51.620 had our our ups and downs in the relationship like i think any relationship but we've been we haven't

00:16:58.320 had any breaks and uh let's see so together for three years you got a kid uh were like was it planned

00:17:14.460 it was planned yeah wait so both wait planned it within four days yeah okay and he was like

00:17:22.540 i'm want to get you pregnant and you guys just met is that how did it go down give us the details

00:17:27.780 yeah i well when i met him he was 29 he's i think 33 now i was around like think yeah he was oh he

00:17:35.380 was we said he was boyfriend and father of your child is you think he's 33 no he's turning 33 on

00:17:41.880 in december okay but um like see when i met him he told me he was 28 he looked maybe even younger

00:17:47.240 than that but he lied about his age yeah he was 29 though but um he wanted to see him younger

00:17:52.680 by a year just kidding um by a year yeah and so wait so but it was planned you said it was planned

00:18:00.620 yeah so he was like well are you on birth control and you said nope yeah and then i said i could get

00:18:07.140 pregnant and i think i was like the first week of us dating he was like we would make some pretty

00:18:12.220 beautiful kids and yeah i don't know i was let's try it out yeah looking back it was a little fast

00:18:20.200 but i'm would never at first sight yeah i love it first sight for real and i wouldn't take it back

00:18:26.340 well yeah all right interesting uh what about you uh i've been single for almost five years now

00:18:35.080 and the longest relationship i've been in was four years all right is that the one that ended

00:18:41.860 five years ago uh no okay that ended like eight years ago so the most recent relationship

00:18:50.040 that ended five years ago who ended it he did and then the four-year relationship your longest one

00:18:56.160 who ended it i did okay uh and you've been single for five years have you been celibate for five years

00:19:02.100 uh no three though you've been celibate for three years yes uh and then uh

00:19:10.020 what's the in the five-year single period what's the longest period of time that you've been dating

00:19:16.480 somebody uh in the five years like a probably like a few months yeah like three or four months okay

00:19:24.800 nothing serious though no i've never okay all right and you have a kid no kids no kids okay never

00:19:32.020 married never married you don't have kids

00:19:34.180 i could i mean i could be mistaken i could have sworn on your instagram there was

00:19:42.040 a bunch of photos with you and a child probably my friends all have kids i have pictures with her

00:19:48.780 kids and all my friends yeah sure i love kids but i don't have any kids uh what about you

00:19:54.720 longest relationship was eight years and i've been single for a year and a half

00:19:59.280 single for a year and a half longest married nope no kid any kids and the single for a year and a

00:20:08.340 half was it the eight-year relationship that ended no it was not okay got it and you say you're from

00:20:15.420 texas right or i'm originally from new jersey but right now i live in florida yes oh wow you got an

00:20:21.220 accent you got an accent well i grew up in new jersey and then i also moved to colorado when i was

00:20:26.080 about four so i lived there until i was 12 okay maybe that influenced some of it was it like a

00:20:31.780 rural part yeah i mean i i lived in various towns in colorado but yeah you got a you got a cool accent

00:20:37.080 all right what about you i'm newly married i just got married in may and this is my longest

00:20:41.880 relationship i've been with my husband for a little over four years now all right congrats thank you

00:20:48.220 and you said it's your longest yeah all right and uh got it oh and you're how old again sorry i'm 30

00:20:58.920 30 okay got it all right morgan single longest relationship uh two and a half years

00:21:09.080 andrew i'm married have been for uh well over a decade all right cool that's everybody's relationship

00:21:15.580 status so i'm gonna read a chat here real quick we have greta thanos holy crap can that first girl

00:21:22.640 date asmond gold so she can clean his house and get him out of his mom's attic who's that didn't we

00:21:28.580 pull that up asmond gold's instagram he's a he's a twitch streamer yeah yeah maybe we'll ask well yeah

00:21:35.360 uh i think you said you would date him i said i would i don't have no idea who it is oh wait wrong

00:21:42.280 all right um and then uh let's see what do we have thank you greta appreciate it if you guys want uh

00:22:03.340 read is 100 tts is 200 contribute to the uh legal defense fund guys and uh let me see here what do

00:22:10.920 we have i'm gonna get into the pre-show notes and um one moment guys one moment

00:22:18.880 okay uh clement what clementine it's an eternal sunshine reference the movie yeah

00:22:29.660 and you you used to do but no longer do was it only fans and stripping correct yes okay many many years

00:22:39.220 what were the uh big disagreements from last show that we had i think the only disagreement was

00:22:51.180 that i think that you guys think that high body count is a bigger issue for like the majority of men

00:22:58.220 in america than it really is because like i've never been asked that ever um and i'm not even

00:23:05.960 saying that it shouldn't be an issue because i agree that it should be personally but that was

00:23:11.440 yeah that was pretty much the only thing i'm sure there was more but um so okay body body count then

00:23:18.440 um so i guess two questions for the panel and i before we actually dive into any of these things

00:23:24.180 i'll go around the entire panel and allow you guys to give us something so uh two things

00:23:30.880 any disagreements that you have with either something that's for those i know some of you

00:23:36.700 maybe have aren't as familiar with the show but any disagreements that you've either heard from me

00:23:42.880 or from andrew here any disagreements about the show and then secondly any uh dating topics that you

00:23:48.880 want to touch on starting with you um okay so aside from like what i just said yeah i just think

00:23:57.060 it's wild that you say andrew that you don't even involve your wife and like like what you say just

00:24:05.140 goes and it's not even a good discussion because you don't even want to you don't care to deal with

00:24:08.200 it it's not what i say pretty much i just say if it is the case that i do do that right she doesn't

00:24:16.180 have a say so when i feel inclined to do so if necessary she doesn't have a say it doesn't mean

00:24:22.120 i don't involve her in any decision making that would be absurd okay in fact i need to consult

00:24:26.620 with her on many many many different things because she runs the household but who cares

00:24:32.600 maybe i just saw like one clip that ultimately the position just is if i decide not to involve her

00:24:40.240 that's really that's my choice and not her choice and if i decide that we need to do something within

00:24:47.620 the household that she may disagree with that's ultimately my choice doesn't mean i don't involve

00:24:51.940 her in any decision making okay yeah i have a question do you think every relationship should

00:24:56.900 be like that or is that just for you i think that um if if more relationships were run as a

00:25:04.040 patriarchy where a woman submits a man's ahead of the household that they would they would be a lot

00:25:09.120 better for for both people involved i think biblically speaking what's going on in this country right

00:25:14.300 now part of the reason we're having so much fallout even politically is because there aren't

00:25:18.620 enough male leaders and figureheads and we need strong male leadership all around so i don't disagree

00:25:24.540 with your viewpoint i think there's obviously exceptions as you're kind of bringing up like

00:25:28.280 there should be female involvement in certain decisions but i respect your view on that problem

00:25:32.480 is is that people always want to make arguments from outliers the kind of like um we're always

00:25:38.620 looking at these small outliers and going what about them well we're not going to shape policy

00:25:42.200 around outliers right we're not going to do that we're not going to shape society around outliers

00:25:46.680 we're not going to do that uh that would be really stupid that would be the sacrifice of the whole for

00:25:51.100 the few rather than the few for the whole that would make that would make no sense like um yeah you

00:25:57.500 can imagine that there's some people who possibly uh you know stop signs may affect negatively i don't

00:26:02.960 know i'm sure that they're out there i don't know how they're affected negatively by them but i don't

00:26:07.080 give a shit right because we still need to have stop signs so i just i ultimately don't care i'm

00:26:12.980 not going to be like oh well let's go ahead and redo everything when it comes to uh you know you

00:26:19.340 stopping at an intersection because um because that affects your mental health yeah like i some

00:26:24.880 retarded like i agree with you like um i think there is like a biological aspect to like relationships

00:26:31.780 and like gender roles and all that but i think that like in a relationship like

00:26:37.340 you should have the decision to you know kind of have the dynamic that you want like if the woman

00:26:46.720 wants to be the provider i think that should be like an option you know but like in general i do think

00:26:54.140 that biology plays a part and that in general men are more inclined to be the providers listen i i

00:27:01.680 agree that if a woman wants to be a provider she should be a provider i would just advise any man

00:27:07.360 who is with a woman like that to get the fuck away from her that's all like i'm not gonna say

00:27:12.780 like i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna say that they can't right that would be absurd and maybe there's

00:27:19.500 some guy out there who's like oh i just can't wait to simp for you queen or whatever you know

00:27:24.160 whatever it is fine um but my advice to men like would be to get away from that woman's probably

00:27:30.600 gonna end very badly and probably

00:27:33.400 not the best idea

00:27:36.980 okay was there i kind of want to just get everybody's disagreements before we dive into

00:27:46.920 any of the particulars so was there more no i think that's it okay disagreements oh um so i kind

00:27:53.520 of like already kind of stated like my stance but i do think that there is like a biological aspect to

00:27:59.760 like gender norms and like um you know like um just gender roles in society in general but i think

00:28:07.240 that like in my relationship personally like i would like to be like a trad wife like i want my

00:28:14.100 husband to provide for me but i understand that there are women who don't want that and that's

00:28:17.840 totally fine yeah three yeah but it seems like every time we reduce it they would prefer to stay at

00:28:23.340 home yeah and you know i don't know like i think that um i just think it's important for people who

00:28:32.460 don't want to follow that route to have the option to um yeah that's basically all and i do think

00:28:39.840 another thing that was uh that i mentioned is that i do think that women have it a lot easier like in the

00:28:45.240 dating realm um but i think that a lot of that comes with a lot of scrutiny as well like from you

00:28:53.200 know like patriot patriarchal ideals from society okay okay uh and that's a dating topic you want to

00:29:03.760 hit on the women have it easier when it comes to dating yeah okay yeah we have that in the notes

00:29:07.800 um any disagreements uh not really no okay any dating topics you want to hit on dating topics um

00:29:15.620 no i guess anything i could add is that there should be stop signs as a comparison well metaphorically

00:29:21.960 there should be stop signs in certain areas on the road but i completely agree like if somebody wants

00:29:27.920 to be a trad wife uh and it works out for the family then that's cool but it also it also like if

00:29:36.520 if somebody's going to be doing all of that work like all the house cleaning and such like they need

00:29:40.940 to be provided for and i think that i let's definitely get back to that and well in society

00:29:45.340 now it's it's harder because you know things are so expensive for like every family unit to do that

00:29:50.040 like typically women have to work too in the family and um i just would hope in a perfect world um

00:29:58.320 nobody would be putting all of the responsibilities on one person in the uh family

00:30:05.100 maybe we can just jump in now it seemed like andrew you wanted to uh you add something on this we

00:30:11.900 can just jump in now yeah well i just i just want to make sure i get the position down so

00:30:16.140 if the woman's staying at home she should be provided for right yeah okay what does that look like

00:30:21.800 uh it looks like taking care of the house taking care of the meals no her being provided for what

00:30:28.380 does that look like oh well provided for financially like what she what well women will

00:30:36.520 kind of often tell me that there's like a trope right well if i'm staying at home i'm cooking and

00:30:42.860 cleaning and taking care of the kids basically right and i drive them to school and when they

00:30:46.260 have a toothache and when they're sick i take care of them blah blah blah blah blah i get all that

00:30:50.020 what's the expectation for being provided for though what does that look like

00:30:55.080 having everything you need and never yeah what is that stressing out about it everything yeah but

00:31:02.260 what is that when you say need does that mean like a bowl of gruel a day because that sustains

00:31:06.600 you like what does it look like living happily like getting getting and being able to have all of

00:31:12.840 the things that make somebody comfortable you know comfortable yeah yeah to live in comfort yeah

00:31:18.060 okay so you think that if you're going to be a stay-at-home mom you should live in comfort

00:31:21.620 you should have the things you need and some some of the things you want yeah this really doesn't

00:31:28.640 tell me anything so there you say you should have the things you need okay needs a very uh subjective

00:31:35.960 word right what do you need you need to sleep you need to drink water you need to eat food you need gas

00:31:41.560 yeah you need stuff like that okay i get it you need those things but when it comes to comfort luxuries

00:31:46.620 things like that what are the expectations there i have extra money i guess i mean if somebody's not

00:31:54.300 uh to be working and they don't have an income so they're taking care of the house right okay but

00:32:01.520 like some girls expect all the bills paid plus their nails done and their hair done and like their

00:32:05.560 upkeep is that what you're saying what are your what are your expectations in other words for being

00:32:09.060 provided for if you're staying at home if that's the agreement between the two

00:32:14.020 but what are your what are your expectations well hang on before we get to me can we finish on the

00:32:20.460 inquiry here i'm just curious the statement is i stay at home it should be provided for i'm not

00:32:26.420 disputing that i'm just trying to figure out what that means what does it mean i'm being provided for

00:32:31.980 does that mean my my food and board is taken care of and that's it or does that mean i get my hair and

00:32:38.820 nails done x amount of weeks i have my own account he puts money in it i get an allowance like what does that

00:32:43.520 mean yeah like being able to have some extra spending money i guess okay those are your

00:32:49.640 your expectations yeah being able to like when you're working you can buy bigger things you know

00:32:55.860 like a car right so it it's not a job to stay at home it's a responsibility in a sense and should

00:33:03.540 buy you a car no i mean unless i need it unless i need it and he's working and can afford it but

00:33:08.920 if i don't need it then or want it i guess and it also differ from person from couple to couple

00:33:14.920 yeah i'm just trying to figure out a standard because the standard here was if women stay

00:33:19.840 home she should be taking it's not just her right it's just a woman in general right they stay so i'm

00:33:24.420 just trying to figure out what she thinks that means be provided for financially in needs and wants

00:33:29.980 and wants yeah so well how where do we draw the line on i feel like yeah sorry i feel like a good

00:33:36.540 comparison to make and i hate to make this comparison is like how you would like take care

00:33:40.940 of your child like kind of like buy them clothes like buy them you know give them the funds to do

00:33:45.280 that kind of stuff and um i feel like that's kind of like your woman like a child no i don't think you

00:33:51.320 treat her like a child i think that you should like when i when it comes to like doing the

00:33:59.060 necessary funds for them i think that's a similar kind of like yeah but what is necessary what does

00:34:04.620 that mean well what do you think it means well i'm not making the claim i don't know well when you

00:34:09.840 were so i'm not making the claim so the thing is necessary i guess would mean like if you want to

00:34:14.480 talk about needs like food shelter water yeah i get those okay all of those are and then i think that

00:34:20.820 if a woman isn't working and she can't provide for herself then the man should probably take care

00:34:25.940 of everything else i mean there's all of her wants well so hair and nails i guess what i'm getting at

00:34:31.560 is like who makes who ultimately makes the decision on who provides what i see they make the decision

00:34:38.160 together yeah what if they what if they can't agree then they just shouldn't be together i agree

00:34:43.100 yeah wow find someone you fixed it simple fix awesome what if we can't agree then get the

00:34:50.240 fuck out of here great that's awesome no but i think this should be discussed at the beginning

00:34:53.980 of a relationship because people don't because people don't have things which come up in

00:34:57.360 relationships they disagree about all the time even after they've made an agreement but you can

00:35:01.540 mitigate for the relationship but you can mitigate the risks how by speaking about it ahead of time

00:35:06.320 that doesn't mean that nothing will come up to change right so since we know that so then how do

00:35:11.300 we answer this easily well here i'm not i'm not looking for an easy answer right so then are we

00:35:16.400 discussing just the initial we're going to be happy at the end of this hang on let me answer to this

00:35:21.100 we're discussing all of it so let's start with this this idea uh you have children right yes doesn't

00:35:26.600 that change the dynamic in a relationship maybe for i mean to some extent to everybody it's going to

00:35:32.860 change in regards to like finances no just in in behavior just in behavior period it's going to

00:35:37.760 change the dynamic right now you two have to agree about another life too not just your own

00:35:42.460 yeah right so what i'm talking about is a threshold breaker where do we get to the threshold breaker

00:35:46.800 where do we get to the point where like kind of tying it back to what you said earlier andrew i

00:35:51.640 can't believe you fucking monster that you don't let your wife have a say in anything and it's like

00:35:56.040 well okay one that would be absurd but two i'm giving you a great logical reason why right this

00:36:02.000 second what happens when we hit a threshold breaker we can do one of two things we can do what you do

00:36:06.500 and destroy our entire family because she didn't be together that's not or dramatic perhaps well

00:36:12.760 hang on hang on how is it dramatic you said they shouldn't be together that's dramatic why does

00:36:16.940 it have to be the basis of first meeting not right so this is so this is the question right you say why

00:36:21.680 should why does it have to be the man well the woman staying at home you're saying that you woman

00:36:26.360 have wants that that are not necessities i want things that aren't necessities so who makes a

00:36:33.700 determination she gets what she wants her if she's relying on the money from the man i mean that's

00:36:38.680 actually fair if it that relationship has that dynamic um i guess that would be but i i like

00:36:45.600 again going back to like what i was saying before like i think like this is like a relationship

00:36:52.320 like by relationship basis like it depends on the relationship like for you that might yeah we're

00:36:58.120 entailing the relationship right now so which is the woman's saying answer individually okay yes

00:37:02.860 so i agree in this situation yeah we're entailing the relationship right this second we're saying

00:37:07.280 in this relationship the woman's staying at home the man's providing not just for what her needs but

00:37:12.260 for her wants as well so if he's providing for needs and wants plus like for instance you might

00:37:17.640 have all sorts of frivolous shit he doesn't care about guarantee you in fact he does right okay

00:37:21.640 you're gonna spend money on that frivolous shit fine um guarantee you that there's gonna be

00:37:26.500 plenty of things that a woman gets that he literally does not give a shit about right that's

00:37:31.280 not really even going to be up for debate that's going to happen so if that's the case right who's

00:37:36.280 the threshold breaker who gets to be the ultimate symmetry breaker the decision maker when the two

00:37:40.480 people if he makes the money yeah i think from the onset of a relationship if a woman's looking for

00:37:46.360 something that's a lavish lifestyle then she should be targeting a man who's going to provide that

00:37:51.000 lifestyle and you can't expect that out of somebody who is not living that life so like if you're

00:37:56.400 a blue collar guy that might not be making as much as you know a saudi prince then if she wants

00:38:01.780 a lavish lifestyle then she should not be going for that blue collar guy yeah well i agree that that's

00:38:06.500 true i think that this is scalable so he's saying like what if he like loses income or something then

00:38:12.660 how do you adjust he the point he's trying to get to is that if he makes the money ultimately he gets

00:38:17.840 to decide what it's spent on yeah well i mean one one i would agree that yes that's true uh but also

00:38:26.620 further i take it one step forward and say you actually because there's only two there's only two

00:38:31.260 people who are in a relationship right unless you're a fucking weirdo but normally you have mommy and you

00:38:37.080 have daddy absent blue-haired kumar gremlin so um ultimately i would think since there's two you guys

00:38:43.700 are going to have a disagreement at some point somebody has to be the decider somebody's got

00:38:48.880 to do it somebody has to be the one who breaks the symmetry right i don't see a way around that

00:38:55.060 i've never seen a way around it what if you had like a random number generator what's that what if

00:38:59.720 you had like a random number generator and you like flipped a coin yeah okay so let's say you flip the

00:39:03.900 coin and you still disagree well you have to go whatever the coin flips you don't have to do shit right

00:39:10.740 well i mean if that's the agreement you can't really definitively debate this yes you can

00:39:15.800 definitively defense i'm sorry wait a second people don't change their mind all the time

00:39:19.460 constantly consistently well if you're if you're agreeing to flip a coin and whichever side it lands

00:39:25.140 on you go with that then if you go back on that agreement then that relationship i suppose i suppose

00:39:30.760 that two people could agree to flip a coin and wherever it goes it goes but uh i think that that

00:39:35.600 would be a really bad way yeah i agree it would be two um i still think that that would create more

00:39:42.080 problems and it would help it would but i also think like when you say that the man should make

00:39:46.700 the decisions like how do you have conversations with your wife then do you like tell her what

00:39:52.220 you're gonna do or do you ask her first like well i think like any healthy relationship on planet

00:39:57.220 earth we have discussions about what we want okay so you why we want to do those things however

00:40:01.660 right if there's any impasse i'm just going to decide and there's many times can you give me

00:40:07.040 like an example of like a time where you had to put your foot down oh yeah it happens all the time

00:40:11.840 especially with raising kids okay all the time non-stop especially when it comes to discipline

00:40:16.320 things like that okay that's fair okay you want this to happen i want that to happen i don't fucking

00:40:20.700 care it's going to happen this way okay i see very simple right very easy so like that wasn't really

00:40:26.280 an example though was it yeah that's a great example discipline i don't want the i don't want

00:40:30.640 x uh discipline to happen or i don't i think maybe this is too harsh or even this is too light

00:40:35.640 we have a disagreement on that it's a perfect example of where okay i'll just be the symmetry

00:40:40.060 breaker okay ultimately i'm going to make the choice and i think that that's actually necessary

00:40:45.860 yeah honestly i see like i said i don't think that it works in every relationship but like

00:40:51.940 for me personally like i don't i don't like making decisions so i like having that in my relationship

00:40:57.140 i think when there's a good balance of masculine and feminine energy if the man leads it allows

00:41:02.360 women to sit in their feminine and that's what we're so desperately missing right now in this

00:41:06.100 country like it's actually sad i mean i grew up with a single mother for the most part and i think

00:41:11.620 no i think that for the most part from men yes i'm i'm agreeing if we had not from women but from men

00:41:18.780 if we had more of strong relationships and nuclear family then women wouldn't be forced as much to work

00:41:24.520 on their own as much as they are and they'd be able to rest more in their feminine so i think it's

00:41:28.480 kind of a that's why i'm voting for kamala to try to get back to that strong you mean fraudulent

00:41:35.740 you know you don't you don't like that i'm voting for kamala hey to each their own i'm not the one

00:41:42.540 making the vote are you actually he's okay i was like he's calling he's calling all right all right so

00:41:48.960 i was like maybe there's some sort of like i don't know like reverse psychology or something

00:41:56.440 in voting for her no no she well she said that i knew she has you know she like works for a senior

00:42:01.880 oh yeah yeah so i thought that i thought that that would just that makes sense like pressure

00:42:07.160 for no particularly good reason but anyway so uh so back to this yeah i think so i think this will

00:42:13.540 always be the case i think anytime you have two people or what you'd say two consciousnesses

00:42:17.800 which come into contact they necessarily try to dominate each other no matter what no matter what

00:42:22.420 i don't care what the circumstance is um there's something like that is occurring so since i think

00:42:29.380 something like that is always occurring i don't think it's any different in a relationship

00:42:32.120 and one of the personalities is going to have to be dominant so always going to have to be dominant

00:42:37.120 my question is like so what about like in like a lesbian relationship like who do you think

00:42:42.640 there's like a like the book cares they all get divorced who cares well i mean like it's a it's

00:42:47.720 it's a question like they exist like what do you think they're also just i have a thought an

00:42:53.340 additional question also in dwarf dwarf relationships i'd like your comment on like that dynamic i think

00:42:59.400 that one should wear shoes that lift them an inch and then they got the advantage right um okay so

00:43:05.520 so back to this and lesbian really i don't care they're outliers so i just literally that's fair i mean

00:43:10.800 like so and okay so you do agree that there are straight like heterosexual relationships where the

00:43:17.800 woman is making the decision and that is healthy for that relationship i don't think it's usually

00:43:22.220 healthy there could be but there are going to concede that logically there there's going to be

00:43:27.440 some okay there has to be some relationship somewhere where some fucking simp loser is letting

00:43:33.240 his woman tell him what to do i don't think it's that rare and he's totally okay with it like i agree

00:43:38.080 no no not it's not rare that they do it it's rare that they're okay with it that's what i think i

00:43:44.580 think that they would prefer not to not to have that dynamic even if they haven't so i think a lot

00:43:49.300 of those relationships they are not happy yeah like the women aren't happy either yeah so i did talk to

00:43:54.040 a guy like that perfect so i mean can i logically accept that such relationships occur of course and

00:44:00.180 that there's some asshole somewhere who just loves that shit yes there's guys who like getting their

00:44:04.580 balls stomped off i know because i've had women on here who tell me that they paid them to do it

00:44:09.900 so clearly there are insane lunatics all over the place who want crazy shit but who cares i'm not

00:44:15.760 going to advocate uh towards any of that because that's definitely the exception of the norm the

00:44:21.160 exception of the regular i think generally right if we were to take the whole into consideration

00:44:26.300 the kind of best family dynamic is cross-generational nuclear and since it's either cross-generational

00:44:33.340 or nuclear that um because you need a mom and a dad at home that you're going to have to defer to

00:44:40.500 the man because generally his job is to protect the family and he's the one who can do that can

00:44:45.280 is capable of and the woman usually is not and so since that's the case i think he gets to be the

00:44:50.360 symmetry breaker that seems completely reason-based to me um are there any areas in your relationship

00:44:57.320 where you do take your wife's advice because for example with my husband take her advice all the time

00:45:02.320 okay i just wanted i mean there are it goes like as i'm like honey i'm about to troll these stupid

00:45:06.380 ass feminine what do you think of this tweet i have a question for you happens happens every day

00:45:11.500 um what do you think like women's strengths are like compared to men their strengths yeah well in

00:45:18.800 which way in every way because i feel like a lot of the time like they can have kids that's not

00:45:27.380 necessarily i was gonna say also earlier yeah i don't well listen i'm gonna be totally honest with

00:45:31.480 you and we like why are you with it by the way we can debate this right now and i'm going to enjoy it

00:45:37.440 so uh here's my position women can have children men can't women are literally better at men than

00:45:45.200 at nothing better than men literally at nothing on planet earth however men have women completely and

00:45:54.160 totally beaten when it comes to force and the application of force did you know that einstein

00:45:58.280 stopped making discoveries when he left his lady do you know that einstein was fucking it like uh he

00:46:03.300 was he was fucking a cousin or something like a first cousin or something like this i'm not kidding

00:46:09.380 wait yeah yeah stopped no but what was the claim he stopped making discoveries when um he left his

00:46:15.420 girlfriend or wife or she left him it's actually debated that they were all hers yeah exactly okay but

00:46:22.000 women are also more nurturing and they're yeah wait when did einstein meet his wife i don't know

00:46:27.580 no no see before his discoveries i used to think all of this shit i used to think just like you did

00:46:32.760 right okay surely women are more nurturing and nope nope the thing is is that um externally the

00:46:41.880 presentation that women are more nurturing socially this is much more acceptable that they present

00:46:47.720 themselves as being more nurturing that doesn't actually mean that they are it just means that

00:46:52.240 socially they present themselves as being so i've never been convinced that women are more nurturing

00:46:57.340 than men uh ever i think that they perhaps do it in a different way than men do but i don't think

00:47:03.040 breastfeed i don't well how do you think men are nurturing so i already conceded right so two things

00:47:09.040 one yes men can lactate just so you know but two right you probably didn't know that but yes they

00:47:14.660 they can uh that's the grossest shit ever but yes um to two um to this point i already conceded

00:47:22.980 reproduction as being the only thing a woman uh can do that a man can't but you came from us so how

00:47:28.700 would what does that have to do with anything i also came from the reproductive genetic material of

00:47:34.060 my father or did you think that women unilaterally got set or uh got pregnant do you think that they

00:47:39.880 unilaterally get pregnant just on their own they're asexual snap their fingers and become

00:47:44.600 pregnant or does it require male genetic material well why do you disagree that women are more

00:47:50.040 inherently nurturing because when i look at the stats for abuse rates of children and things like

00:47:54.920 this i used to think all sorts of things i used to think that men were far more likely to essay than

00:47:59.560 women it's not true i used to think that um wait what okay what exact stat is that yeah well actually

00:48:06.200 i can pull them all up uh i'd like to see it if women and i'm like hang on hang on one second

00:48:11.640 okay this is going to come as a shocking stunner to you but i'll actually logically demonstrate it

00:48:18.620 and then what i'm going to do when i'm out having a smoke i will literally text these to brian he can

00:48:23.420 pull them all up on screen so that you can see all of the studies have them all prepared for this

00:48:27.340 just for this conversation in case the day came where it came up and today is that day

00:48:33.160 wait but like what kind of essay i'm asking is it like in general or is it like a specific kind

00:48:38.520 it's even penetrative even penetrative essay yeah isn't that amazing so the thing is is um here's why

00:48:44.900 here's why this occurs it's because of reporting so i did not know this but there's a reclassification

00:48:50.100 for uh penetrative essay so if men are not penetrated it's not counted as essay and that's

00:48:57.580 insane that's absolutely fucking insane so it's just they're just completely don't count it i couldn't

00:49:04.380 believe it so how did they gather the data then by self-reporting same way they do with women

00:49:09.260 and so when they did all these studies of self-reports in colleges all over the place they

00:49:14.240 found out that men were reporting that they were essayed by women far more than women were

00:49:17.820 reporting their essayed by men what it's just that what was the study they didn't go and make

00:49:21.820 well again i'll pull them all up i don't remember all of the authors off the top of my head um but

00:49:27.300 yes this was done and repeated multiple times so no i don't believe in this myth i've never believed

00:49:32.280 in the myth and here i can even logically show you do you agree with me that things that women

00:49:37.640 consider to be essay are usually overlooked with men an example of this if you're at a party

00:49:42.580 and i walked over to at my age an 18 year old girl who was randomly on a couch and started rubbing

00:49:49.520 her shoulders you would be a fucking creep and essaying the girl right yeah now take 40 year old

00:49:54.780 hot mom comes over to 18 year old boy on the couch rubs his shoulders probably not a big deal

00:50:00.120 i think hang on hang on okay go ahead and you can see that that's probably not a big deal

00:50:04.560 yeah i don't think so why is one essay and one isn't how it's reported no necessarily i don't think

00:50:10.080 that this kind of thing is a big deal i think it's a difference in like when a man essays a woman

00:50:17.860 like and i'm not and like this is like in a vacuum necessarily so like usually when we're talking about

00:50:28.160 essay like a man is saying a woman is like a lot more serious like well i'm not talking about it's

00:50:34.080 hard to it's hard to say that like not not a man is saying a woman is not more serious but like

00:50:39.840 yeah um so imagine if i was making this claim the other way no i'm not saying just well just

00:50:46.240 envision well yeah yeah i would say that when a man essays a woman that's not a big deal right

00:50:51.380 no i'm just talking about like women fear do you fear women yes wait wait can you just repeat hold

00:50:58.820 on repeat your claim no you said it wasn't i i don't want to misquote you but you said something

00:51:04.000 along the lines of it's not as big of a deal no i that's not what i meant okay well what did you

00:51:09.320 say just repeat what you said okay so can i rephrase it though repeat what you said then you can

00:51:13.280 rephrase okay so i said it's when we're talking about essay like a lot of the time it is not as

00:51:21.320 like serious when we're talking about like you know like uh when women do it yeah are you talking about

00:51:28.560 the method of abuse like physically well not met yeah method yeah that does this apply to other

00:51:34.940 forms of uh assault or violence because well i mean it kind of goes into it because like you can

00:51:40.940 physically so any crime that occurs to a woman is more serious it's not more serious but it usually

00:51:46.560 impacts more harm yeah okay by a man let me let me ask you this so if a woman suffers a if a woman

00:51:53.080 is a victim of a crime she is impacted more severely than men than a man usually yes because men are

00:52:02.180 biologically stronger i see what you're saying okay i'm sorry okay so if the chick is really buff

00:52:07.580 well yeah if if a girl is really buff then and she beats her boyfriend's ass then yeah that's

00:52:13.080 that's an anomaly like i i would assure you would agree she gets beat up let me let me ask you this

00:52:18.460 so that's going to be less impactful than if she was weak so if uh a man gets shot in the head and

00:52:24.500 a woman gets shot in the head is there a differential on the impact no because they're not using force

00:52:30.060 using a gun that's there is a differential if a woman gets punched in the face versus a man because

00:52:35.440 women have uh less dense skulls so right but both both men and women have the same capacity

00:52:42.980 they just mad at us because we're better at the same injury oh okay so do you think men are

00:52:47.640 stronger than women yeah okay so do you think men will hit harder than women yeah okay so men will

00:52:53.200 hit harder will hit a woman harder than a woman will hit a man so what if i were to get into a

00:52:57.560 fight with a really weak guy who started shit nobody would think twice if i smacked yeah but because

00:53:01.920 that's an anomaly no it's not an anomaly almost every time two men fight one is significantly stronger

00:53:07.780 than another yeah it's a generalization women yeah generalization of what is standard and so this

00:53:12.200 idea that'd be all because women happen to be weaker than men almost all men are weaker than other men

00:53:17.280 it's no women do tend to get concussions more easily so even if you're austin yes right here

00:53:23.360 she's right here if you're watching um like mma for example you watch the women's fights even between

00:53:29.960 women women on women they um finish much quicker than they do with men because they they have uh less

00:53:36.860 dense skulls and so they are um more susceptible to concussions earlier on okay well let us assume for a

00:53:42.680 moment let us assume that men were far more likely to get concussions than women but were far stronger

00:53:49.660 than women in every other regard which they are right now and if they hit them anywhere else it did

00:53:54.520 way more damage okay you wouldn't you still make the recommendation that because there's a force

00:53:59.800 differential that men didn't hit women even if women hit men wouldn't you still make the same

00:54:05.700 recommendation even if men could get yeah of course so the concussion thing doesn't matter

00:54:09.800 ultimately it doesn't matter if we're talking about the moral imperative right if a woman strikes

00:54:15.500 a man then she you know she gets it back that's the way it works that's what she get you know what

00:54:21.720 you know what that does is it teaches women not to hit men there's a really good bill bird bit on that

00:54:28.100 by the way yeah i mean i mean i don't think anybody should be hitting anybody i just mean that's great

00:54:34.020 there's usually a difference like i don't think anybody should get cancer you know yeah

00:54:38.440 i mean but they're going to and so the thing is is like since they're going to i want to have some

00:54:44.420 kind of reasonable policy and some type of reasonable social policy around how you deal

00:54:49.500 with the fact that because it's going to happen women get really mad they hit men for some reason

00:54:53.760 socially unacceptable for men to hit them back and the answer to this is well it's because they're

00:54:58.580 weaker and it's like okay but every time a man gets in a fight with another with another man the other

00:55:02.920 man is also weaker than him most of the time right do you think that there should be battered men

00:55:08.500 shelters uh well what what is a battered woman sheltered exactly a woman who was in a domestic

00:55:16.260 violence relationship and she's in a shelter for safety yeah i mean i i would give those to men for

00:55:24.140 different things for different why yeah like false essay claims right but why wouldn't you give it for

00:55:29.200 physical abuse he's too rich they should hide his identity what why wouldn't you give it for

00:55:33.660 physical abuse uh well i don't think it would be necessary to do why not because generally speaking

00:55:39.260 i don't think most men would need that for physical damage okay so you think that women okay so do you

00:55:46.300 think that men are more physically abusive than women no so then why so do you think battered women

00:55:51.660 shelters should be a thing i mean i'm it's fine you can have a battered women shelter if you want i guess

00:55:57.100 yeah but men do cause a lot more damage is what she's trying to say so what well you can't get

00:56:03.820 mad at men because they're better at it no one's mad i'm i think no it's just think about like sports

00:56:08.680 like you have different leagues for different for different like yeah unless somebody puts on a wig

00:56:12.820 well i mean you i mean it's like it's a comparison like you have different leagues for different

00:56:18.720 strengths just like how women and men have different strengths well then i guess lightweights

00:56:23.020 who take on heavyweights should have a battered men shelter what do you want me to say when women

00:56:28.400 are um abused or physically abused they are um there it's a lot more detrimental to their physical

00:56:34.660 well-being and health yeah yeah okay i would say i would say that physically right they could take the

00:56:42.400 short end of the stick because they're less drunk yes but that does not mean it's more detrimental

00:56:47.480 that's where i would have no hang on i just conceded that point literally just conceded that

00:56:53.560 point wait i would say that wouldn't that doesn't mean that it's detrimental though over what's going

00:56:58.340 on with the man wait andrew if i may point out i do believe this is shifting the goalposts here

00:57:02.760 because i believe your original claim was even in the instance where let's assume that the damage

00:57:09.180 caused by a woman onto a man and the damage caused by a man onto a woman assuming the damage was

00:57:15.400 totally equivalent your position was still even with equivalent damage done no it wasn't that it's

00:57:22.980 still worse for the woman no i misspoke that was your position i misspoke then so this whole argument

00:57:28.100 but i'm willing but i'm willing to just concede it because i don't think it has any merit right

00:57:32.620 i'm that's not my position i'm gonna assume this in fact let me just oh wait one one second hang on

00:57:39.700 yeah go ahead go ahead i'm gonna assume this in fact that every single time there's a confrontation

00:57:43.660 between a man and a woman which is physical that the man's going to overwhelmingly win and the

00:57:47.520 woman's going to get her ass kicked yeah okay no matter what in every single circumstance so what

00:57:52.920 you hit a man that's what happens what's the problem here weren't we talking about essay

00:57:59.740 and what were we talking about before that yeah but i'd like an answer to i don't okay i'd like an

00:58:04.220 answer i don't think that okay i'm just saying i think that like when there is a physical abuse

00:58:09.720 situation like if a woman ends up like punching her boyfriend he is not necessarily going to need

00:58:16.120 to like go to the hospital because he does so it doesn't take a physical toll on him yeah it takes

00:58:21.960 a physical toll you're just saying it takes a lesser one yeah my question to you is what is actually

00:58:26.600 wrong with what is actually immoral about what is actually problematic if a woman strikes a man for

00:58:32.880 him to strike her back what um honestly i don't necessarily think there is something wrong there

00:58:41.920 right so then your whole point here i just no sense because even if i concede the battered women

00:58:48.640 shelters yes they they're gonna lose every single time they get into a fight with a man you've just

00:58:53.980 conceded that if they strike a man if you're striking him first then it's different from him

00:58:58.460 striking you first yeah but you and i agree that nobody should be striking anybody yeah exactly but

00:59:04.480 we understand that there are women who do strike men if they do that you don't have anything morally

00:59:09.600 to say about the man hitting her back nothing so are you gonna say that cassie shouldn't have

00:59:15.340 maybe pressed charges against diddy or what are we all in agreement that what diddy did to cassie was

00:59:21.440 wrong and that that is sa i mean that's abuse well i don't know exactly what the details here are

00:59:27.780 like well because i feel like there's some kind of discrepancy here and it's not being accurately

00:59:32.060 discussed that when a man hits a woman unprovoked without the woman hitting him then that's wrong

00:59:40.100 yeah just like you're saying no one should be hitting each other i think we all agree on that

00:59:43.340 so i mean he'd be able to do a lot more damage to cassie than cassie would have done to him yeah but

00:59:48.060 what but so this is where the problem comes in though right it's like so what yes i get i get it

00:59:54.720 the guy's gonna do way more damage than the girl all right but so what the moral imperative seems

01:00:00.900 like it's the same to me it just seems like it's exactly the same thing i was like okay you're not

01:00:06.000 we were talking about women being nurturing so it's like it's immoral for you to hit men

01:00:09.800 keep up at this right it's immoral for you to hit men is it moral for men to hit you great

01:00:13.600 that's what we've established uh why don't you believe in like maternal instincts and women being

01:00:18.880 more nurturing well i think they have maternal instincts but doesn't that coincide with what

01:00:24.020 what does nurturing mean here let's start with that what does nurture mean i think being a natural

01:00:28.220 caretaker you know being inclined to take care of children and you know those yeah no i dispute i

01:00:33.840 dispute categorically when i look at data for single fathers and single mothers the single fathers seem

01:00:38.920 to be excellent caretakers the children live in cleaner houses have better outcomes go to prison less

01:00:44.260 they all sort i mean almost every outcome every metric they do better do you think that's because

01:00:48.720 usually when the father gets the child it's because the mother was like a really bad mom

01:00:53.560 and the father is like way better no i think that sometimes they just get them because the mom dies

01:01:00.020 yeah like it's an outlier but let's but we can make these comparisons like this right so you can

01:01:06.520 follow widows you can follow men whose wives have died and then you can follow women whose husbands

01:01:11.740 have died okay and you can take a look and you can no there's been tons of studies okay which have

01:01:16.440 done this and you can look at the comparisons and you can see the outcomes for single fathers

01:01:21.300 in single father homes are better and here's why here's the number one reason why it's because of men

01:01:26.320 it's because of women bringing strange men in they're usually far more likely they're not related

01:01:31.960 to the child to be abusive towards a child men who are raising children they don't have that problem

01:01:36.860 with women but this isn't talking about men women this is talking about single mothers and single

01:01:41.020 fathers so then wouldn't that prove the point that men are more abusive not and i don't care

01:01:45.720 either way but just because you said earlier that you don't know it proves that men have men have a

01:01:50.840 force doctrine which can make a deterrence that women can't not that they're more abusive but that they

01:01:55.940 that women are far less likely to like oh i don't know do something bad to a man's child because he can

01:02:01.860 really significantly hurt her badly right is there a study with like mothers and fathers together

01:02:08.260 that shows because like this study is only he is right about the outcome of single dads well yeah

01:02:14.620 but this is showing single mothers and single fathers there might be other like um you know

01:02:19.940 yes there there might be like other outside factors okay but here's what my argument was my argument

01:02:26.280 was no i'm not willing to concede that more nurturing if our metric for more nurturing is

01:02:33.400 i don't kid's healthy kid is clean kid feels loved kid feels safe i feel like that's all things we would

01:02:38.480 agree nurturing is yeah hang on and if that is the case and the metrics for all these children is way

01:02:44.000 better under all of those criteria then how can i make the claim that women are more nurturing

01:02:48.120 because i think that those claims might kind of like mix together with like your idea of what a

01:02:56.220 man should be because that's like if a kid is fed that's like providing if a kid feels safe that's

01:03:01.280 pretty nurturing yeah well what the hell does nurturing mean nurturing is like love women tend

01:03:05.680 to put more what loved like i can tell you a kid feels loved when he's dirty no it's not like no it's

01:03:11.860 like words of affirmation like think of love languages probably wrong there though i like do the

01:03:17.020 studies specifically say that the dads keep the kids more clean because if i am just guessing and

01:03:21.320 i i do know that you're right about the stats on this but if i was to guess the variables involved

01:03:25.960 here like women do tend to put more pressure on like we're more neurotic so we're like they have to

01:03:31.440 be perfectly clean they have to be this and that makes us more stressed and maybe we're like more

01:03:34.200 bitchy and less caretaky um but it also creates multitasking so you get less of it done whereas men do

01:03:39.780 do singular tasks better so the thing is is i think that men uh yeah i think that their basics would

01:03:46.820 be like okay you're fed you're clean right you went to school you didn't fuck up it was a good day

01:03:52.580 right i really think that it's probably not going to be too much more complex than that and by the

01:03:57.680 way it probably doesn't need to be more but do you think that maybe like a woman's biological

01:04:01.380 drive to be a caretaker and like because we definitely have more anxiety when it comes to

01:04:07.020 things like that i you may have more of a biological drive to be one but what we're disputing is whether or

01:04:11.600 not you're better at it my dispute here again i'll give you my position again there is not one

01:04:17.480 thing a woman can do that a man can't do equally as good if not better but there's multiple things

01:04:23.660 that women cannot do that men can do much better so if men could have children would you date men

01:04:28.680 no so why okay so then why are you dating women if the only thing they can do better is have children

01:04:35.020 what did i give you what did i give you the criteria here for i'm asking you like you said

01:04:41.780 that the only okay so why are you with your wife for example you mean the mother of my children yeah

01:04:46.840 why are you because she's the mother of my children and i love her okay why do you love her but for all

01:04:51.480 sorts of different reasons why give some examples uh because she's super smart and she cares a lot

01:04:57.320 about me and she thinks i'm wonderful and etc okay there you go there i go what what are you talking

01:05:03.520 about how does this demonstrate that women are better at any of these tasks than men i can give

01:05:08.740 you an example of women being more nurturing are you saying because because she has all of those

01:05:13.220 that i should feel like attracted to men if they have those okay okay because why wouldn't you be

01:05:18.160 with a man who's better because i don't want to fuck men but why don't you want because they're

01:05:22.440 fucking men what do you mean why not because i'm not a homosexual yeah you're not attracted to them

01:05:27.760 exactly so the only thing that you think women is better women are better at is having children so

01:05:32.440 uh-huh you view your oh no i'm sorry you're right there's two things i guess women are also

01:05:37.840 better at wanting or at men wanting to fuck them over other men okay so you win so you view take the

01:05:43.460 w no you view your wife as uh inferior inferior in many tasks yes inferior in everything but having kids

01:05:51.540 yeah she's so she's better gonna be better than me at having children and that's it but individually

01:05:56.460 that doesn't mean that individually uh women can't be better at some tasks than men so for instance

01:06:01.980 my wife's better at writing than i am right she has a book i don't have a book uh she's better at all

01:06:06.880 sorts of things than i am she's better at complex mathematics than me she's better at music than i

01:06:10.680 am right sucks at all other uh all sorts of other things this is the ultimate red herring you just gave

01:06:16.420 which is if your wife is better than you at some tasks then this somehow equates because at the

01:06:21.820 individual level this is true that you can demonstrate that there's tasks which women can

01:06:27.100 generally do that men also cannot do just as well as them you cannot do that i think that it was

01:06:33.560 it's fallacious argumentation that's fair i think that men are very good and very bad at things i think

01:06:40.160 they're the best and the worst at things and women kind of like fall in the middle so it's kind of hard

01:06:44.120 to like make that so then you agree with me that there's nothing you can think of at all which women

01:06:49.160 are better at than men but there's things you can think of that men are better at than women i mean

01:06:53.220 i would have to honestly is that what you just said well honestly like i would have to think about

01:06:57.200 that because i think that they're well think about it i'll give you time right now so back to the

01:07:00.840 nurturing point yeah if you look at divorce stats when the other partner gets sick the men leave their

01:07:07.000 their sick wives at insane rates so i would that i mean like you can't say that's more nurturing

01:07:13.160 it needs not maybe not to a child but to their partner well in that regard women are definitely

01:07:17.980 well i'm not familiar with exactly what studies that you're looking at right um and this could

01:07:24.020 have something to do with how long they've been there if there was because women could be more

01:07:28.000 likely for instance to conceal sicknesses they could be more likely for instance to conceal certain

01:07:33.000 things which have been going on which led to certain sicknesses so there's justification i don't know

01:07:37.180 because i'm not familiar with the stats that you're citing there could be all sorts of reasons for

01:07:42.260 this which have nothing to do with nurturing but have to do with justification

01:07:45.660 also careers that look it up and then circle back at some point we should do that and i'll take a

01:07:51.360 look at the study sure careers that lend themselves to nurturing and caretaking like nursing and

01:07:55.560 teaching do have a much higher rate of hospital worker they do i agree hospitals are absolutely

01:08:01.260 begging for male nurses and they're begging like you can't believe for them because they want

01:08:06.660 physically strong men to be able to move patients but why don't they choose to go into that

01:08:10.560 if they're more nurturing because they can make a lot more money doing other things okay so they're

01:08:15.560 not passionate about being interested in women are okay so why don't make a lot yeah women can make

01:08:20.120 what no no see see they don't have a propensity hang on this is where we're going to have some

01:08:24.720 disputes no they can't they're not going to go do roofing they're not going to go do trade work

01:08:28.700 they're not going to go be rocket ship engineers yeah they're not going to do any of that shit they're

01:08:32.320 going to do the exact same shit that they've been doing for 2 000 years which is nursing

01:08:35.320 teaching and serving your beverages medical school they can they go to medical school to be nurses

01:08:40.060 why don't they go to business they're going down and then why don't they go to business school

01:08:43.480 because they're not interested in having businesses okay okay but they do okay but why are they more

01:08:47.860 interested okay i'm really they're really not that why are they more interested in nursing and

01:08:52.540 teaching than in business because because there's a there's an application of what can be done

01:08:57.580 i think they also have a higher propensity for nurturing caretaking no i think it's a limitation on

01:09:03.240 what is possible what is possible for most women i don't think most women hang on i'll answer to

01:09:07.820 this i don't think most women can do roofing do you agree no i don't think so okay you hang on

01:09:13.600 that's a specific example i don't think most women can be indoor electricians i don't think most

01:09:19.580 women can do that do you agree or disagree i agree i don't think most women can be plumbers

01:09:25.100 but that's those are all labor jobs yeah so is nursing nursing's a labor job

01:09:30.400 no but this is also the reason for the gender pay gap what's that there are higher rates of uh

01:09:36.680 graduation rates in women for women right now that's always been the case even even since

01:09:41.420 literally the dawn of the nation it's always been the case that women had higher graduation rates

01:09:45.880 always been the case that they have higher graduation rates is net that's never not been

01:09:50.420 the case because that because physical labor is available to men that's why what i'm saying is

01:09:55.060 they can go into careers that um will be more lucrative they can but they don't they don't

01:10:00.600 because they have a higher propensity for jobs that include maybe they want to go into that because

01:10:05.900 that's where they're wired to but that still wouldn't demonstrate that's where they're wired to

01:10:09.640 but they're still wouldn't demonstrate that they're more so x so let us pretend for a second let us

01:10:15.720 assume for a second that we knew immediately that both of us were wired for the same exact amount of

01:10:21.380 empathy we knew this right but you were limited in what the scope was of jobs that you could or

01:10:25.920 couldn't have and i wasn't i wasn't so out of all the ones that you had you went oh well you know what

01:10:32.000 i'm pretty high up in empathy so i think i'll be a nurse because i would really like to do that

01:10:35.880 i may also have really liked to do that but i had all of these other jobs available to me to go do

01:10:41.440 those instead so i went and picked one of those that i liked even more than nursing so the thing is

01:10:46.340 is like even if that's true in this comparison it would not demonstrate at all that women are

01:10:53.740 more nurturing because they choose the nursing it wouldn't demonstrate that so you so you think

01:10:58.880 that women have high nurturing compared to like intelligence like their relative intel from their

01:11:06.920 route from their relative position fair enough yeah i think so but i don't think that their capacity

01:11:12.420 for it is supersedes that of men i've never thought this i will agree to disagree i've never thought

01:11:18.360 by the way so well but based on what show me logically demonstrate for me how it's true because

01:11:25.560 there isn't really like a study that can be done because the studies that you're showing me aren't

01:11:30.240 necessarily like demonstrating nurturing like that can be demonstrating like you said like how do you

01:11:34.780 demonstrate it you i mean it's like it would be hard to demonstrate it through research i think it's

01:11:39.780 like look at like animals for example like how they treat their young like how they treat their

01:11:44.300 offspring like usually it's the mom taking care of the baby but in animals i would argue that's a

01:11:48.700 mechanism these are mechanisms not intuitive rational decisions are we not animals instinct as well for

01:11:54.760 when when a yeah i think it's the same for him to take care of her child stop hey hold on she you've

01:12:00.120 been talking a bunch go ahead i was just gonna say i think it's um instinct as well when a when a woman

01:12:05.400 gives birth to be you know nurturing caretaking of her child i agree that women have mechanisms for

01:12:12.060 nurturing but women also have higher faculties for reason they can offset feelings and emotion

01:12:18.240 also with reason they have higher intelligence than animals do yeah so just saying that well okay their

01:12:24.940 their biology kicks in uh there's also a downside with this that men don't have for instance like

01:12:30.120 postpartum depression where moms terminate their children at terminate themselves all sorts of

01:12:35.860 chemicals get released which cause significant damage towards the kid it's like i'm still not

01:12:40.940 even willing to concede that even the day baby born um all that chemicals are released into mommy

01:12:48.240 that this means that they're going to be a more nurturing parent than the father i'm just unwilling

01:12:52.220 to concede this unless it's demonstrated to me logically or otherwise there's just no way

01:12:58.120 like like the metric by which you're you know by which you're um deciding that a baby's needs are

01:13:05.260 met or a child's needs are met like just like the basic necessities i think there's also emotional

01:13:09.180 support as well that is oftentimes um provided more by the mother than the father yeah i dispute that

01:13:14.840 so i think i think that women really put an over emphasis on femininity when it comes to child rearing

01:13:21.920 and they really shouldn't in fact i think that they indulge children far too much i think that they

01:13:28.020 uh spoil them far too much i think that they give in to their emotional demands far too much and i

01:13:34.260 would say that's counterintuitive in fact to caretaking and uh you know to nurturing i think

01:13:40.820 that's counterintuitive to it that's why you see single moms with these big fat kids for instance it's

01:13:45.520 because they're overindulged let them have the sweets okay but also that's why a lot of us are single

01:13:50.500 moms because the mother overindulged her son and like enabled his bullshit and then now he doesn't know

01:13:56.880 how to like correct properly so so the thing is is like responsibility i consider i consider these

01:14:02.220 things no i don't think that that's because you do these kind of overindulgences that that's

01:14:07.100 actually nurturing i when i think of nurturing i think of this right when you leave you're equipped

01:14:13.380 to deal with the world you're equipped to deal with the world that's nurturing anything else you

01:14:18.920 tell me external to that right is going to be counterintuitive because if it's not preparing them

01:14:24.580 to do well in the world then what then then how is it nurturing here's where i'll agree with you

01:14:29.480 here's where i'll agree with you with a caveat i think the thing that women are better than men at

01:14:34.520 doing is manipulation and that's why you see so many female executives at the top that's why you

01:14:39.160 see the cia hiring you see the cia hiring more women there's honeypots women can manipulate and they

01:14:45.460 can actually make they can actually let her finish they can actually make men think that something's

01:14:50.740 their idea when it's really the woman's idea that's why you see divorces happen when there's

01:14:54.600 someone that comes in to try to like basically jezebel spirit him to try to make him you know

01:14:59.500 come to her um so i agree with you that maybe women aren't as nurturing but if you want to talk about

01:15:05.080 preparing kids to be out in the world some successful single mothers do a good job because they teach

01:15:11.180 their kids how to be analytical how to predict things before they happen and how to prepare yourself for

01:15:16.720 adversity that is the biggest load of horse shit that i've ever heard let me dispute all of this

01:15:21.180 one one at a time first of all no they're not better at manipulation manipulate part of

01:15:26.680 manipulations is strategy the best strategists in the world are men they're men and you can't be a

01:15:31.580 great strategist unless you understand the machinations of the enemy you can't understand

01:15:34.500 the machinations of the enemy if you can't understand manipulation so no they're still

01:15:38.940 like oh no women are better so i'm still i'm still gonna give even i'm still even gonna give

01:15:44.700 manipulation uh to men i think that men are the the better spies i think that men are even better

01:15:50.840 at manipulation when you're talking seduction right i still don't even think that they have

01:15:56.380 the market on seduction i think that men will just fuck them but they would fuck them anyway i think if

01:16:01.340 you told them you were a spy they'd still do it right because they just want to i'll tell you your

01:16:05.700 wife's probably a genius right so the thing is but backing it up from there um if you're talking about

01:16:12.160 kind of out in the world i i would love to know how you think single moms better prepare their

01:16:19.400 children i didn't say that they i didn't say that they are the only ones that do i said the successful

01:16:24.620 single moms who have to be in that situation that aren't necessarily nurturing in the feminine way

01:16:29.220 that you're talking about where they might coddle they might give them tough love and say listen this

01:16:34.320 is the way the world is and this is how i want to prepare you then they were taking on they'd be

01:16:37.440 taking on more masculine roles because and you still wouldn't have demonstrated they're more

01:16:42.160 nurturing only that they're more masculine well well in regards to how you describe nurturing where

01:16:47.060 they're more equipped to deal with the world like i because i can tell you because i have to do both

01:16:51.580 roles i'm far less coddling and like you know i'm more kind of like strict and this is what you need

01:16:59.440 to have the skills to have people like you which is important to socially integrate and things like of

01:17:04.480 that nature which peterson talks about but you're definitely right like because we have to play both

01:17:10.380 roles how you describe nurturing we can be more prone to being that type of nurturing as opposed to

01:17:17.180 like oh i'm at home i don't have to worry about anything i can just be in a good mood i'll just grant

01:17:21.180 that it's so that you can do this this still would not demonstrate that women are better or more

01:17:27.740 equipped for it than men so again my initial argument would still stand that there's a whole slew of

01:17:33.040 shit that i can point out that men are way better at than women but i don't think women can point out

01:17:37.640 a damn thing are not better than why are fertility rates going down in men and um by 2070 i think

01:17:43.600 the world's going down to women too plastics no not as much as men oh no just as much let me in fact

01:17:48.820 let's take a look and well met lol has donated two hundred dollars and two cents disagree with

01:17:56.040 andrew about men being better at everything women are better narcissists than men women are better

01:18:02.460 emotional manipulators than men women are better liars than men women are better well listen i'm just

01:18:09.360 going to point this out lol paladins very quickly and you're going to send another super chat agreeing

01:18:12.780 with me with training men would even be better at all of those things so um anyway back to this thank

01:18:20.180 you love halibans right back to this and uh and these ideas um you were you were saying sorry just

01:18:28.140 saying how fertility rates and men are going down yeah they're going down to women too you know why

01:18:32.140 because women are getting married at 31 32 due to like the food no chemicals no it's just because

01:18:37.360 you're getting married at 31 32 and we can't say it's just because of that come on microplastics are

01:18:41.620 definitely proven sure sure but okay yeah sure everything's a fucking correlate the oxygen in the

01:18:46.760 plant the oxygen in the air that's a correlate somehow i'm sure but you have strong correlates

01:18:51.560 you have weak correlates so let me just give you the strongest correlate at 32 years old you've left

01:18:55.480 behind most of your childbearing years yeah yeah you're 35 yeah no well 32 32 yeah your your

01:19:03.560 most fertile years what uh 18 19 through about 20 27 28 they're all gone behind you right so they

01:19:12.300 have one two kids that's about it so that's i mean to say that female fertility is not drastically

01:19:18.280 decreasing is absurd it's not because it needs to it well a lot of women uh don't want to have kids

01:19:23.280 yeah like nowadays too yeah so that would be a great reduction of fertility right yeah but i mean people

01:19:29.040 men more men are becoming actually infertile even if they want to have kids sure well first of all

01:19:34.220 compared to there's not that many men who are infertile that's one but two even if that were the case

01:19:39.680 why are you saying it like that infertile infertile infertile even if that were the case infertile even

01:19:46.860 if that were the case that um that women were just choosing it that's still infertility it's just by

01:19:53.140 choice it's just by choice so it's like who cares if you're fertile if you're not breeding it doesn't

01:19:58.240 it makes no sense who cares okay hot take care but i think men are more nurturing in relationships too

01:20:03.140 i do think so we have so much freedom to be as bitchy as we want to our partners but like some

01:20:10.120 of you and well for some reason some of you do for some reason i think i think you probably grant your

01:20:19.020 wife a decent amount of rope to be kind of bitchy to you something just tells me you would think

01:20:25.760 incorrectly maybe but okay but from like literally not only just my experiences but observing

01:20:32.820 relationships with other people like you know we do have more leeway to be kind of shitty like

01:20:37.920 we can we can do the stonewalling we can do the you know we can blow up and like oh you know we have

01:20:44.840 more excuses as to and you know like we have periods whatever whatever it's more socially acceptable

01:20:50.340 for us to be abusive in various ways to men than it is for them to be to us and i can tell you i've

01:20:57.040 left all my relationships like this is something that i've reflected on and noticed in myself that i

01:21:03.400 tend to be more flighty and like the men tend to be more steadfast so i i do i actually do agree

01:21:10.400 that men are more nurturing yeah in a lot of ways i got a question not just to agree with you because i

01:21:18.120 will argue with you but wait we can't argue with the truth yeah wait just going around the table

01:21:23.760 this is kind of somewhat related but kind of random uh are you pro-choice or pro-life

01:21:28.460 i'm pro-choice pro-choice pro-choice pro-life pro-life pro-life life so wait pro-choice pro-choice

01:21:39.940 pro-choice life life life wait you three weren't you guys the most uh the most strongly arguing that

01:21:47.760 women are better nurturers yes no no i agreed that they're she she wasn't yeah oh well that's a whole

01:21:54.580 different argument to me like i don't think that but you don't think it's murder right no okay but

01:21:59.540 how can you debate that okay so like just to play devil's advocate here we don't we can't say that

01:22:04.040 that's not a good example because we don't know what men would do in that scenario because we don't

01:22:07.940 have stats on it because it's not possible yeah well actually we do yeah well i mean we can we can

01:22:13.240 at least infer okay so here's how we can infer because men vote against it and women vote for it

01:22:20.360 but men are often pushing for it so like what they vote for may not be the same as what they're doing

01:22:25.940 in their real lives no some men push for it i mean some men push for these things i concede that that

01:22:30.920 is true but collectively they vote against it so if collectively they're voting against it we should

01:22:35.780 be able to kind of infer from that that they likely would not be doing it but once again they don't

01:22:43.000 know what it's like to be pregnant so they the fact that they vote against it doesn't say much

01:22:48.700 gloctavius donated two hundred dollars chat would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery

01:22:55.760 from a female doctor serious surgery so basically would you rather get a massage or die

01:23:02.760 andrew do you want to answer this one um i'm getting the uh surgery are you are you okay

01:23:12.760 are you doing okay are you okay yeah oh my god are you sure uh because usually people who ask if

01:23:19.320 you're okay aren't okay oh okay that's true actually i love the reference no that's true

01:23:24.940 because like because a lot of wait wait did you see the kamala tweet about asking if trump was okay

01:23:29.860 okay okay thank you thank you for that thank you for that reference wait what did she take that

01:23:34.640 pro-abortion lunatic he just made a reference to a tweet that kamala harris made earlier

01:23:39.460 talking about trump she was being snarky or her hq is being snarky saying are you okay

01:23:44.460 or is he okay oh man meanwhile he's the only one who's talking about economic forms like most

01:23:50.420 psychiatrists and stuff are like deeply screwed up yes yes they are they want to help other people

01:23:55.580 because they get it fair and they don't because they're crazy but anyway yeah so so back to this um

01:24:03.760 we you were asking about approach i don't know where you're going with that so well i i it's like

01:24:08.700 when this whole thing of women are more nurturing but it's like

01:24:14.280 well it's hard to debate abortion is murder y'all be killing your baby well yeah but we don't think

01:24:20.460 it's murder that's the whole point and if men had to get pregnant maybe they would vote a little bit

01:24:24.200 differently uh well yeah i mean the reality is is that men can't get pregnant exactly so it's not a

01:24:30.220 good argument it is a good argument it's a good argument um i'm curious though and actually we

01:24:38.840 maybe we'll i don't really want to have an abortion convo but perhaps later on in the show um where did

01:24:44.500 this all stem from i i feel like you did your disagreement about she asked him if he could say

01:24:49.940 what he likes about women and he was like there's one thing that they can do better than us and that

01:24:55.060 and then i still never got the actual argument at all for how that wasn't true just just pointing

01:25:00.300 that out well i think also our society today um oppresses women's natural tendencies towards

01:25:05.700 nurturing and caretaking i do think it's something that's not um celebrated as much and it's women are

01:25:11.300 you know encouraged to be is there anything else we can celebrate women for no but i think that

01:25:15.680 women are encouraged to be more you know like it's so fucking insufferable it's just so it's

01:25:22.820 can we celebrate more bullshit no i don't mean by i don't mean celebrate but i mean it's not

01:25:27.680 encouraged i agree okay yeah i agree with that i agree that um that women are being pushed into

01:25:34.260 i mean i grew up in los angeles and i grew up you know kind of i'm 30 now but around the time that i

01:25:39.380 was in high school in college i was all my teachers were kind of trying to you know discourage you know

01:25:44.920 young motherhood and talking about you know you know higher education and and going into fields that

01:25:50.680 were like girl boss and and it's just not something that you know women were not we're not being

01:25:56.060 taught you know how to be mothers and how to be caretakers as much as we were in the past that was

01:26:00.120 something that was taught often in the 1950s and 40s and it's true so it's definitely hard to be more

01:26:05.960 nurturing in today's society

01:26:07.160 we'll do a couple chats then we'll get back to the

01:26:12.920 ladies would you date brian on one hand he is tall six foot one blue eyes rich sometimes funny

01:26:22.080 successful but he has a dead bod probably autistic has a weird liking for big lady outies and a small

01:26:28.740 peepee first off that last part's not true it's average it's average first off uh you guys don't

01:26:39.480 have to answer this shit let us answer why are you scared all right go ahead go ahead um

01:26:45.060 probably yeah probably i don't know if you tried to dominate me too much like the knot because you

01:26:52.120 said something about bowing i'm not doing that shit that's fucking crazy but other than other than

01:26:56.860 we'll do the bow video i would say yeah probably okay no no i'm sure i plead the fifth

01:27:04.560 that's fair oh my gosh i'm married she's married she's married she can't all right thank you

01:27:09.860 how you gonna bro come on let's get the view all right uh got pooped this is a great conversation

01:27:17.720 but why is it when it's poo poo time it's pp time but when it's pp time it isn't always poo poo time

01:27:24.080 hey you were you were here on sunday right you were here on sunday thank you man appreciate the uh

01:27:30.140 the uh tip thank you man we had law paladin's already come through and then we have a message

01:27:35.280 from got booped again he says is somebody like shaking the table with their leg can somebody stop

01:27:43.380 uh who runs the world's markets with finance you think women are better why aren't they running the

01:27:48.840 stock market okay i don't know because men are better at finance well women aren't as interested

01:27:57.560 in it okay all right got poop thank you and then we have law paladins you're right with training men

01:28:05.240 would be better manipulators but women do it via genetic programming like bane versus batman

01:28:11.080 a man would merely be adopting the darkness women are born in it molded by it uh we need andrew here

01:28:20.760 so he can do the bane voice here low paladins i'll pull it back up uh i'll pull it back up once we get

01:28:25.920 to that let's pull up twitch guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub that's

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01:28:46.280 and then like the video guys and then also just a reminder read is 100 tts is 200 if you guys want

01:28:58.040 to get something in we've got the legal defense fund that uh we're uh building for so uh let's see

01:29:06.360 uh going uh i guess continuing on uh or did you have another disagreement with anything you

01:29:12.440 no any dating topics you want to speak on

01:29:16.400 no okay uh any disagreements from you um on anything i guess like a dating topic would be like

01:29:27.820 a lot of things uh wrong with modern relationships is just lack of putting god first

01:29:34.780 okay so that's dating topic nothing for disagreements though not necessarily uh toria anything

01:29:41.280 overall communication issues that the nuclear family has obviously been destroyed but also

01:29:48.260 communication as a whole okay anything for you um disagreements i disagree with the term

01:29:54.820 trad wife i want to say i just kind of reject that in general i think it's not an aesthetic

01:29:58.860 i think it's become kind of like a fun term to use but i don't think it necessarily

01:30:04.160 um the things i think that the the aesthetic is not what a trad wife is and i just reject the idea

01:30:11.760 altogether okay um and then dating uh dating things you want to speak on

01:30:18.080 not yet okay i have all your pre-show notes too we'll get into that uh so okay you disagree with

01:30:24.380 the you don't think the trad wife exists no i think that the term is trendy as a i think that

01:30:30.720 it's trendy um to describe someone as a trad wife who you know likes to dress in 1950s attire and

01:30:38.720 you know films themselves cooking but it doesn't have really anything to do with what a traditional

01:30:43.520 wife is and i think a lot of the people who claim to be trad wives or they want to be trad wives

01:30:48.400 aren't necessarily doing traditional things so okay all right it's my hot take sure uh so let's get

01:30:57.820 into the pre-show notes then or actually you know what before we do that stifler's been dying to come

01:31:02.840 in ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one to ten starting with you go ahead i think over

01:31:08.540 i'm like seven okay um i'll give myself a 7.5 seven eight i'm not reading myself

01:31:16.880 i'll give you a two dollar bill yourself you know how much that's worth you know how much this is

01:31:25.160 worth it's a lot how much more than two dollars have you ever had a two dollar bill you can just

01:31:32.460 get them have you ever had a two dollar bill it's crisp too it's like fresh it's a fresh fresh one

01:31:37.720 yeah chris look at this look at that look how good it looks right next to you it could be yours

01:31:42.660 i can't be bought sir but thank you for the offer it's you know

01:31:48.820 i'll take the two dollar bill and rate myself no i rated myself okay what about you 10 for my husband

01:31:57.380 10 from your husband yeah wait you don't want to rate yours come on come on

01:32:03.380 i tend to rate myself more on the intelligence scale i don't really view myself like that

01:32:09.080 so on intelligence on intelligence scale of 10 okay and then what about the looks one

01:32:13.620 yeah i snuck that in i'm not a participant i snuck it in you can't buy me with a two dollar bill

01:32:19.580 wait can i ask you one question we can do a three dollar bill is it because

01:32:24.940 you you're you think you're a 10 but you don't want to say you're a 10 or

01:32:30.080 is that i think that a scale is subjective based on each person's idea so your subjective metric

01:32:38.540 what would it be

01:32:39.240 i mean i'm fearfully and wonderfully made so in god's eyes i'm a 10 but i'm not gonna in god's

01:32:48.300 eyes everyone i'm not gonna um rate myself based on some semantic scale that

01:32:53.480 is differentiates between people well it's not it's not really a semantic scale it's just

01:33:01.420 it's just a subjective scale based on okay let's phrase it this way okay let's try it a different

01:33:07.060 way because your intelligence is a 10 so you'll get this quick let's say you had 100 men and all of

01:33:13.700 them were given a 1 to 10 chart and they had to come by and rate you what do you think the average would

01:33:18.460 be i don't need to give my answer you don't well you don't you don't you don't need to but we're

01:33:29.260 wondering what it would be like if you had to guess i'm definitely i'm definitely an eight or above

01:33:40.620 you think that they would scale you at an eight or above yes okay all right

01:33:45.620 oh do i'm sorry morgan morgan morgan seven wait you said 10 your husband well what's your own

01:34:00.600 self-rating because four girl bye no ma'am no ma'am not at all don't even say that don't even say

01:34:11.280 why humble you can be humble and recognize your cheekbones and your jawline right and your blue

01:34:19.580 eyes um i don't know i don't i don't you don't think you're pretty no i think i'm pretty so then

01:34:26.500 why wouldn't you rate yourself above average eight there we go morgan peer pressure oh sorry

01:34:34.600 uh andrew i'm a 10 for sure okay yeah yeah i i give myself a five five yeah five

01:34:42.200 yeah thank you oh and then going around the table do you think you'll be better looking

01:34:49.820 in 10 years time go ahead no okay and then you're 28 now were you better looking you know

01:34:57.080 10 years ago at 18 no i actually look better now but i don't think it's gonna keep going that way

01:35:02.700 yeah yeah really can we also maybe scroll down on the ig okay no i don't you are 21 will you be

01:35:08.520 better looking in 10 years time at 31 no uh you're 24 will you be better looking in 10 years time at 34

01:35:15.140 no idea if i'll even be here what but but assuming you were here maybe maybe not wait do you have

01:35:25.100 probably terminal cancer or what no you mean in the podcast studio you won't be here in 10 years

01:35:32.460 i plan to sit here and for 10 years this podcast probably won't be here in 10 years time either but

01:35:38.820 uh canceled by the overlords at youtube but uh

01:35:43.160 when i'm 34 probably you have probably not i don't know so wait you probably won't be alive

01:35:51.280 at 34 i mean i don't know if i'll be better looking at 34 oh yeah i don't know if i'll be

01:35:55.560 didn't you say i won't be here yeah i don't know if i'll be here

01:35:57.980 none of us know none of us

01:36:02.060 wait so if somebody asks you a hypothetical question that's very dark oh hypothetical in

01:36:10.740 one year's time and your response would just be well i could be hit by a train tomorrow

01:36:14.600 yeah so i just can't answer the question yeah i can't answer the hypothetical what about like

01:36:19.880 what are you doing this week no wonder you're between jobs because you go in and you're like

01:36:23.160 they're like okay so how long do you plan on staying here like well i don't know i mean

01:36:26.680 tomorrow my car could i could die yeah i mean there's no way for me to really give you a commitment

01:36:31.300 to this job right uh you're gonna be here we have uh do we have

01:36:37.240 the instagram yeah yeah we'll pull it up all right so this is you 10 years ago okay but those

01:36:45.980 are like not good example i don't know if it's click on that one where she's hiding behind the

01:36:49.940 tree okay show one with my 2014 so this was 11 years ago right but that's not how i look usually

01:36:55.400 like okay x out i don't ever wear makeup so that was just scroll up a little bit there you go

01:37:00.320 very good look at that shit wait um oh up a little bit my teeth were all messed up click on the

01:37:06.880 one above that one i mean they're like blurry you had to go back a little cameras have improved

01:37:15.180 a lot in 10 uh i mean you look it's you

01:37:20.400 yeah i got my teeth fixed i started taking care of my skin better um like i don't smoke black and

01:37:29.100 mild all the time now yeah i feel like you like i think you were better looking i don't what no i

01:37:35.740 think you were you were better looking wait what what do you think is better looking about her back

01:37:40.500 then she looks younger in what way like i think she looks the same to be honest she looks very

01:37:47.460 similar no your cheeks are popping out more now they are and i got my teeth fixed is that like a

01:37:54.140 woman thing is that like a woman thing like the the cheeks thing you guys yeah but you guys do realize

01:38:00.820 that men are more by men more about the cheekbones yeah you do realize that like sharp features on a

01:38:10.480 woman seems like i'm a tranny yeah no that's not what i'm talking about at all whoa no because

01:38:17.300 that's a thing that they say now okay it's yeah they're not it's like a whole they're not

01:38:22.720 viral they're just more defined yeah but okay so

01:38:26.020 this idea that men like really like chiseled faces and women men will have men will accept more

01:38:36.720 rounded soft features and it'll be attractive and it'll and also sharp features can also still

01:38:43.780 be attractive but this idea that oh i had a little baby fat or my face was a bit round i it's like

01:38:49.980 well that's not what i'm saying but if but okay objectively if you look at the hottest celebrities

01:38:55.080 that the most what most people are drawn to right the angelina jolies the megan foxes they have more

01:39:01.140 short features but that's beside the point i didn't say that i just know that my teeth are better now

01:39:05.360 my skin is clearer now um well maybe not right now because i just quit smoking ish so i'm like

01:39:11.180 purging but typically um also i'm like in way better shape despite having had kids now and i have boobs

01:39:18.440 now and i didn't have them before before kids um so i mean i do just generally but y'all aren't really

01:39:26.500 looking at all in pictures i'll send y'all some okay all right uh what about you you are 35 better

01:39:32.680 looking in 10 years time uh no probably not or the same okay and you're 35 uh were you better

01:39:39.480 looking at 25 no actually so you're better looking now at 35 okay all right and then toria you're 31

01:39:47.620 better looking in 10 years time well i'm better looking now than i was 10 years ago okay and i

01:39:52.280 aged like fine wine so i'm gonna say i look better wait so i will look better in another 10 years okay

01:39:58.160 so better looking at 41 versus now at 31 and you're better looking now at 31 than you were at 21

01:40:04.100 what about 20 years time so 51 versus now well depending on how you know good the plastic surgery

01:40:09.560 gets and how better our food supply is after our arbor africanity revises our terrible fda hopefully

01:40:15.600 abolishes the fda um yeah it might look better i don't know relatively speaking for a what the 51

01:40:23.280 year old yeah i might look better than most 51 year olds now and then 30 years time so 61 versus 31

01:40:29.560 same thing we gotta see what happens with all this on bioengineering 40 years time that's 71 again i'm

01:40:37.100 speaking relatively to the age group that we're talking about versus now yes i still think i'll look

01:40:44.820 better at that age than the people that are i see what you're saying okay yeah yeah so would you look

01:40:50.220 better to men who are in your current age bracket when you're 90 no okay what about when you're 80

01:40:57.560 no i'm 70 okay 50 i know some pretty good looking people on that age range i'm not saying um looking

01:41:08.840 50 year olds of course there are i'm talking all relatives so no obviously you're younger now okay

01:41:15.220 what about 40 you're saying men my age now yeah well there's a lot of younger guys going for older

01:41:27.740 women so they're going to have sex with them they're not going to marry them so maybe you've seen some

01:41:34.420 i've seen i've seen some interesting cases but i mean yes obviously obviously biologically speaking

01:41:40.860 you look better now why are y'all trying to hurt our feelings not when oh he's not hurting my feelings

01:41:46.320 at all and you're 30 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 40 by what i deem

01:41:53.960 attractive yes but probably not to my husband maybe okay and then 20 years time at 50 no and then you're

01:42:01.100 30 now are you better looking now at 30 than you were at 20 yeah i handle i'm someone who stores baby

01:42:07.720 fat in my cheeks and i just personally don't like that look so i think i look better now can we pull

01:42:12.720 up everybody else's throwbacks why don't you do that to me uh do we have any of the things from

01:42:19.240 the discord because you're being quarrelsome so we want to pick on you extra i feel like i'm being

01:42:23.960 docile joking joking i'm assuming they were able to do some of them uh so the discord has i none yet uh

01:42:32.380 anybody in the discord if you guys can age everybody forward let's see how they all look

01:42:38.060 when they're old and wrinkly and decrepit decrepit decrepit and this is giving me such bad anxiety

01:42:47.580 ancient let's see let's get into the pre-show notes here so we have

01:42:54.060 uh let's see oh we have a dating app review too why don't we do and they're all clean

01:43:02.700 is it a photo or prompt from him

01:43:10.860 what is it is there nudity or it's a photo you said right oh yeah just x out of it we're not gonna

01:43:33.660 show that one okay uh why don't we do the dating app review oh let's wait until she's not at the

01:43:43.020 table so every time what do you mean this is like every time you bring up one of these the woman is

01:43:51.900 somehow missing from the table right then yeah every time we have some from elissa right oh god

01:43:59.020 all right can you read the profile this is your own yeah based um i value intellect above all i

01:44:08.940 typically will not engage in small talk but if you want to talk space travel psychology philosophy etc

01:44:13.260 i'll probably bite my type is nerds or homesteaders my love language is acts of service so if you're

01:44:18.380 lazy or don't have your together we won't vibe um don't let my looks confuse you i do not do hookup

01:44:23.660 culture and i for sure have a touch of the tism lmao my insta is something like clementine message me

01:44:29.180 there because i don't check this okay and do you have a touch of the tism and you don't do when you

01:44:35.660 say you don't do hookup culture what does that mean yeah so i'm not just like trying to sleep with

01:44:41.820 a bunch of randoms um like i'm looking for a real relationship that becomes marriage and more babies

01:44:49.340 hopefully so like i kind of vet people pretty harshly okay uh when you say you vet people harshly

01:44:59.740 what do you mean uh like i there's you know like you i'll get the ick very quickly um not the ick

01:45:09.580 yeah the ick like there's been guys that i liked but they were super lazy or they don't clean up after

01:45:16.700 themselves or you know just they're not intelligent um i'm not picky about because i see you guys debate

01:45:26.300 things like someone's looks i don't care how tall you are or you don't have to make like a shit ton

01:45:30.860 of money um but for me it's more like just being an organized and rational human who i think could

01:45:41.660 probably survive the apocalypse with me um i but if he what if he was organized and rational

01:45:49.820 wouldn't his best chance of surviving the apocalypse to be not with you well sure because i have

01:45:55.420 dependence so that is definitely gonna so then how could he be rational well he has he's gonna survive

01:46:00.540 the apocalypse with you right but he might have kids with anybody else but i mean and also i don't

01:46:05.260 like so i objectively do not care if a guy is not interested in a woman who has kids i think

01:46:10.620 that's fair yeah like i really do that doesn't hurt my ego i don't good we don't align yeah um but yeah

01:46:18.220 but so you don't hook up or you don't engage in hookup culture but you used to not really no

01:46:25.660 like i've had a series of pretty like semi-long relationships with like few dating situations that

01:46:32.540 didn't work out in between but never just like at casual sex with no aim of dating

01:46:37.100 and we have more from her right i'll read uh okay uh

01:46:46.460 can you read the three tv shows i love um the office black mirror the magicians my personality

01:46:51.820 type is intp my favorite book is cosmos by carl sagan and that's it that's what it says next

01:46:58.140 next next okay next next

01:47:08.060 are there more prompts or is this pretty much it is there another photo or

01:47:16.940 okay yeah

01:47:18.860 that's how it just passed alaska don't worry oh okay all right um okay that was your dating profile

01:47:32.620 what i'm not impressed by your performance all right who's who we got next who got next i put my

01:47:39.020 my dating profile yep the way to win me over is showing me your letter boxed that's a movie writing

01:47:49.900 site app yeah all right i'll have you read the prompts next my therapist would say i need to work

01:47:56.860 on my daddy issues hmm okay so not only do you have daddy issues but you also see a therapist

01:48:04.060 yes how many how many different therapists have you had two i i've had one when i was i actually

01:48:10.620 just started seeing a therapist recently so what is daddy issues what does that mean oh well i have

01:48:15.900 that's like a whole can of worms i don't have a daddy um okay i never had a dad so yeah next

01:48:24.940 that's the wrong one wait i didn't send you another one um there were no other prompts i think there

01:48:41.500 was oh oh yeah i think there was but it might not have sent because i think yeah i see yeah i see the

01:48:49.980 one yeah it's just i yeah it's okay we don't have to show that one and then we have one from her

01:49:07.180 oh i like it we'll instantly hit it off you try to live biblically you strive to be better every

01:49:13.420 day you like conspiracies okay next can you read this for us i wish more people knew that

01:49:19.740 there are still a few real men and women left in the world men who want to provide protect and

01:49:24.220 adore their women and women who want to nurture respect and please their men

01:49:29.100 and then my instagram's eatmeatqueen all right um i'm looking for monogamy dating to mary

01:49:37.180 dating to mary okay next next next

01:49:45.340 we're the same type of weird if you eat lots of beef you're not political because you know it's all

01:49:52.620 a show if you remain poke free from the recent scandemic oh my god if you want someone to grow

01:49:57.820 with and be a power couple all right next i go crazy for strong men physically mentally and spiritually

01:50:06.380 meat lovers and fluoride avoiders men without pronouns in their profile men who can lead in

01:50:12.700 every part of life and men who try to live biblically okay uh is i think that's it right

01:50:21.020 or is there another one no i think i think that's it right

01:50:26.940 okay yeah that's fine all right those are all the dating apps chat do you swipe yes or do you swipe

01:50:33.340 no or do you swipe no or do you swipe yes thank you guys uh let's see we have more

01:50:38.620 pre-show notes here we did the dating app review uh we had oh we gotta i'll have to do that next week

01:50:48.300 uh okay that is not true i didn't even know that was a thing actually but i've gotten a few messages

01:50:55.260 about it yeah but it's not it's not true you said you've dated a lot of your bosses and had secret

01:51:01.020 relationships with them for a time until it was uncovered it was a pattern of yours for a while so

01:51:06.380 like when you're working at the strip club did you no no no okay when i was a correctional officer

01:51:12.380 i did and like restaurant jobs but you you worked in a prison i worked at a correctional

01:51:18.460 officer at the same time that i was a dancer but you were a stripper yes stripper ceo yes ceo yeah

01:51:26.860 is that aren't there some like there there's a conflict of interest yeah so at some point they

01:51:30.860 gave aren't there some like like police officers have to conduct themselves in a

01:51:37.100 matter becoming of the office or i don't know the exact terminology but yeah so i didn't like go put

01:51:43.660 on my job application that i was a dancer and because so where i worked was two hours away um and

01:51:50.060 actually how i learned about the job is because there was these two lesbians that would come in the

01:51:53.740 strip club and they were like you should come work with us and i was like okay so i did and the benefits

01:51:59.740 were great but the pay was only 12.99 an hour so i just supplemented on like weekends at the

01:52:05.660 strip club yeah i'm gonna read this from lopaladins to tell if a woman is going to hook up

01:52:10.940 is if she explicitly tells you we are not hooking up when she comes over to your house if she wasn't

01:52:15.500 thinking about it she wouldn't bring it up ps bane please that's right thank you for the reminder

01:52:20.460 lopaladins so andrew while you're gone lopaladins sent in a message she wants you to read this

01:52:25.260 do you know bane from batman yeah can you do it in the bane voice the bane voice uh i'll try okay

01:52:32.780 here we go all right batman with no i can't do it no do it you can't do it i can't wait here how

01:52:41.340 about just this with training men would better manipulators but women do it via genetic programming

01:52:46.780 like bane versus batman what if i what if i did it in the palpatine voice because

01:52:51.180 ask him if we could do it in the palpatine wait just the end part just that that last

01:52:55.500 starting at like bane versus batman after that like bane versus batman a man would merely be

01:53:02.140 adopting the darkness women are born to it they're molded by it why does that sound kind of like

01:53:08.780 jordan peterson what no jordan he sounds like kermit the frog he sounds like kermit the frog no he kind

01:53:14.540 kind of sounds like winnie the pooh well today we're gonna talk about philosophy that's not the

01:53:20.460 terrible that's so bad uh i thought it was so bad i thought it was pretty good uh kermit the frog is

01:53:26.860 what he sounds like hmm you uh want to go over the body count thing we debated last time uh you made

01:53:35.740 a poll on your instagram so it uh would be dope to go over that you agree body count matters you were

01:53:41.820 playing devil's advocate last time but i do think it's not the deal breaker you guys think it is or

01:53:45.900 that some guys even claim it is my poll reflects that so what was the finding in your poll so i made

01:53:52.700 a instagram poll and asked their age religion political background whatever to account for

01:53:58.540 all the variables sure and like 95 probably said they don't care it's not a deal breaker

01:54:05.900 y'all can go check it out it's a highlight on my insta this is uh you should pull it up because

01:54:12.300 i'd like to see how it's phrased i said um no without adding commentary age really just answer

01:54:22.780 these questions age religion whatever is body kind of deal breaker if you're otherwise compatible which

01:54:28.300 is what we discussed last time if you're otherwise okay so everything is good except you

01:54:36.060 fucked a thousand guys yeah okay so and they and they said that that's not a deal breaker very few

01:54:42.620 people cared y'all should pull it up so and that's what i was arguing last time and i think it should be

01:54:48.060 actually for multiple reasons and i can go over them all if you want but so you think that we should

01:54:54.140 raise awareness that you should be asking women their body counts more i don't think there's a

01:54:59.980 reason i don't think it's negative in any way too yeah so then i agree with you that there are far

01:55:07.100 too many men who are willing to accept women with really high body counts it's uh absolutely revolting

01:55:13.580 to me some of the numbers that i've heard from women where i'm just like i i don't even know how

01:55:17.580 you i don't even know how you get out of bed well actually we were just talking about this i'm like

01:55:22.780 how that because last time i was on here i think the comedian chick said like 300 or something i was

01:55:27.980 like how because she walks around with a mattress strapped to her back like literally what are you

01:55:32.460 doing but i think it's the same for men because the physiological effects are the same you're still

01:55:37.660 more likely to have stds you're still down regulating your dopamine and oxytocin receptors

01:55:42.460 it is true the std thing it's not true because men can't get hpv no women are more susceptible to stds

01:55:48.780 just for anatomical reasons but on top of that there is another differential here is that i mean

01:55:56.460 stop you gotta let me you can't keep fucking interrupting okay okay so in addition to anatomical

01:56:02.700 reasons women will tend to gravitate towards high status men so women will are more likely to end up

01:56:10.300 sharing men okay no argument there yeah so if all the girls are trying to fuck kanye or chris brown

01:56:24.780 who fucked thousands of women yeah and women are attracted to men of status and all this sort of

01:56:30.940 stuff the men that women tend to pick when it comes to their promiscuity is they have access to those men

01:56:40.300 yeah i think it's not a put off for these women whereas if a man was privy to the fact that the

01:56:47.260 woman's fucked a thousand plus men no matter her status or her attractiveness level it's more likely

01:56:54.380 to be a put off well yeah i'm not i'm not disagreeing on the fact that like the majority of women will

01:56:59.900 accept it more than men will i'm saying it should be an issue for either sex because of you could still

01:57:07.260 get an std you could still have to deal with the other party's dependence you could still have

01:57:11.660 someone with a avoidant attachment style who can't form proper connections because they're

01:57:15.740 you know hormones and neuroreceptors are just totally screwed um so i think it should be

01:57:21.340 concerning to either partner but i'm not saying that it is as much for women as it is men

01:57:25.900 i think you're right about that i think that's silly of women but it's a thing yeah okay

01:57:33.900 so your position is what you think it's silly of women yes so i wonder how does a woman determine

01:57:42.780 a man has status um most women probably go for his money his fame all the things that he mentioned

01:57:51.660 and also what is considered status for men is beautiful women right sure so the more beautiful

01:57:59.180 women that a woman has banged it seems obvious to me that if women are going for men of status

01:58:05.500 that if beautiful women were not going for those men they would think there was something wrong with

01:58:09.660 them yeah but i think that's silly and that might be like my touch of the tism where i don't care

01:58:13.180 about like social norms but like i think what we should value is a man's integrity his character

01:58:18.620 his ability to be a good partner for you not the fact that he's being a bunch of hot chicks

01:58:22.380 but yeah yeah so but let's separate these two concepts the descriptive from the prescriptive

01:58:27.340 right so i agree with you that people should base things around virtue right i agree with that

01:58:33.180 but they don't so descriptively they don't doesn't it track that women if they were looking for

01:58:39.580 men of status would be looking at men who banged a lot of women well yeah yeah i'm not because that

01:58:45.260 would that would show that would prove that women desire him that's part of their status right

01:58:50.780 right but that's why i said i think it's silly like i'm not but is it silly because in because in

01:58:55.740 reverse that is not the case it does the exact opposite for women where men go oh well your status

01:59:03.020 is fucking garbage right because you've uh you slept with a lot of men so i'm not sure i just think it

01:59:08.940 should be the same well okay it is i love the idea of both parties uh moving and gravitating

01:59:17.820 towards each other based on virtues right i think that that's great but that is not the case well

01:59:23.980 yeah i'm not arguing that it's not yeah so i mean prescriptively i would agree with you that they

01:59:28.380 should move towards towards virtues but uh but they don't and so that if that if they don't right then

01:59:34.860 how can you give the advice to men for instance not to do this thing how can you give them the advice

01:59:41.100 to not do this thing if women will reject them if they don't do the thing that's my whole that's my

01:59:45.180 whole thing that's what i'm wondering well you shouldn't well i guess it's well you're religious

01:59:49.660 right yeah well base it off of give me a secular argument well you should base it off of like what

01:59:55.500 the bible tells you to look for in a partner that's a religious argument right that's what i was saying

01:59:59.740 give me a secular argument non-religious you should care about your uh sexual health you should care

02:00:06.620 about your mental health like all of the things don't seem to be highly affected i mean i get what

02:00:11.500 you're saying but just know that there are women like me who don't find it attractive who the

02:00:16.780 slightest bit of competition turns me off i don't want anything to do with it you know just you know

02:00:21.500 wait for that person rather than all this other if the guy is really high status he doesn't give a

02:00:26.220 shit about you he's going to have tons of women who look like you but we're talking about the average

02:00:30.060 joe right no in fact the opposite we're talking about high status men so so brian's argument so so

02:00:37.180 brian's argument no not just kanye right that's super ultra high status right brian's argument to

02:00:43.100 you is he's saying look women seem to move towards men in a smaller group right so this is why men end

02:00:51.900 up with thousands of sex partners some men it's because they have access to them right they plainly

02:00:58.460 have access to them there's no disagreement there but if it is true that it is looked at by women as

02:01:04.860 being odd or weird that women won't go near a guy right because they also perceive that as social

02:01:10.300 status then how would you actually convince a man who wanted to attract really beautiful women

02:01:16.700 to not have lots of sex with other beautiful women knowing that that would be descriptively

02:01:21.900 an attractive function for him because there's other attractive functions and if you want to bang a

02:01:27.260 bunch of beautiful women then i wouldn't argue that at all by all means no but it's actually going

02:01:31.580 to lead to banging more beautiful women right agreed but are you looking for the one so like

02:01:36.620 are you looking to bang a bunch yeah but i mean what are you going to say to uh uh one of these kind

02:01:40.940 of uh 10 percenters or 20 men who are like oh gee well let's see i could bang one chick forever

02:01:47.660 or i could beg tons of hot chicks and the more hot chicks i bank the more likely hot chicks are

02:01:53.180 gonna let me bang them no i definitely get that mentality yeah so i'm just like people want to live

02:01:58.540 that way that's i've had a problem with uh arguing against this for a long time from a secular

02:02:04.460 perspective from a religious perspective it's very clear but from a non-religious perspective how the

02:02:09.660 hell are you going to convince men who are banging really really attractive women and the more

02:02:15.020 attractive women they bang seemingly the more attractive women they can bang it it seems to me like

02:02:21.100 it's impossible to convince them otherwise i mean you can tell them other things but it's probably

02:02:26.540 not going to be as big of a deterrent as you would like it to be but also it's not my objective as a

02:02:32.300 libertarian i don't give a shit what anybody does like do what you do so that's you know libertarian

02:02:37.820 that's the closest so gross alignment that i can find really i'm like a centrist but too much jordan

02:02:43.500 peterson too much jordan peterson maybe so maybe it's too much alex jones yeah too much of him too okay

02:02:53.100 so uh yeah that's i guess that's that's the only place we could really go with it then

02:02:58.940 uh you said you also disagree with andrew on the level of submission a woman should have to her

02:03:03.580 husband i don't know if we kind of already covered that or if you wanted to no we pretty much cleared

02:03:09.420 it up did we yeah because he's saying like there is there is conversation just at the very end like

02:03:16.700 if let's say you have a budget of two thousand dollars this month and your wife is like but i

02:03:21.740 want this purse and you're like well sorry for your luck i make the money that's it like okay fair um

02:03:27.020 i but it was just based off of one clip that i got the impression that like i don't because in this

02:03:33.740 clip you said something to the effect of like if i don't want to talk about it i don't give a

02:03:37.260 shit and i think you should view your partner respectfully enough to always include them hold on hold on hold on

02:03:41.820 hold on hold on hold on hold on damien just don't even touch the keys please

02:03:59.580 all right okay go ahead so i kind of got the impression that maybe like you don't include her

02:04:07.900 at all and are just kind of like which i obviously i know that it wouldn't be ever but i kind of got

02:04:12.780 the impression that maybe it's the majority of the case that you like don't have the discussion

02:04:17.100 and i think it's fine to have the ultimate say but respect your partner enough to talk about it but

02:04:21.580 you clarified all that earlier so well well now now it's murky again right so um let's move back i don't

02:04:29.340 actually have an objection to a man being an authoritarian tyrant from your perspective in

02:04:34.300 his relationship it's uh completely non-bothersome to me i think it's fine but you're a christian yeah

02:04:43.340 okay do you realize christianity is a patristic faith i understand that it says that the husband

02:04:48.540 also has duties to his wife too yes like loving his wife like jesus loved the church and i don't think

02:04:54.460 jesus like i'm sorry did jesus have to justify anything to the church no but he also he talked to

02:04:59.580 his disciples did he have to justify anything to him no but that's that goes back to the last so

02:05:04.620 who's the leader we don't disagree there okay so if you're the leader and you say well you're leading

02:05:09.740 me wrong then who's the leader then you if you're a christian the leader should be god so if your

02:05:15.820 husband is not leading in a biblical way you don't you don't just submit to him and forgo god right

02:05:22.300 christ right head the reflection in a marriage of the head yes it's the husband right so but if

02:05:28.620 he's not leading in the body the body is the woman right sure but if he's not leading in a biblical

02:05:33.660 way that's not what paul says paul doesn't say if they're not what paul says specifically is even if

02:05:38.700 your husband's not leading in a biblical way right you should stay married to him anyway yeah i don't

02:05:44.780 know about all that well that's what he says but there's a lot of contradictions when it comes to this

02:05:48.540 and well then how could you how are you going to tell people what they should do as christians

02:05:52.940 then if you do if you believe it's contradictory toward all of the other disciples than any of them

02:05:58.060 so but there's no contradictions you don't think no okay we should take no every things we're going

02:06:04.060 to come back yeah every every every biblical contradiction can easily be reconciled and most

02:06:09.660 of it is because you don't have contextualization you read the bible like it's an ikea manual it's not

02:06:14.460 right you have to take i don't read the bible that way yeah i mean how else could you read it

02:06:18.620 you read it like it's a living word of everything what does that mean how what you're the interpreter

02:06:27.180 right yes okay so how else would you read it other than an ikea manual you have to read it with like

02:06:32.400 historical context who it's being spoken to okay all of the things okay so then these you would agree

02:06:38.240 that these contradictions that you state can be easily reconciled i think usually i don't i'm not a

02:06:44.240 biblical scholar so i can't but when it comes but when it comes to paul yeah paul said stay married

02:06:48.220 anyway right but here's why he said that he said because uh even if you're staying married to this

02:06:53.720 person who's falling away it's the chances that they find their way back uh is much higher so here's

02:06:58.600 the thing right here's the like what if they don't here's the here's the idea the idea and i'll just give

02:07:03.560 you the logical exercise and you can see if you can correct it or hand it back to me okay the idea is

02:07:09.500 this there can only be a leader one leader you agree right i think if you're both leaders then

02:07:17.060 neither are leaders i think we can tag team on different topics but i'll bite here yeah so okay

02:07:23.940 if you're a four-star general you're not in charge of another four-star general but you're in charge of

02:07:28.380 all three-star generals right okay you agree with that yeah okay so there's one leader and then here

02:07:34.680 there's one one person who's following the leader correct you agree with that okay so anytime the

02:07:40.440 follower of the leader says you aren't leading me right so no who's now in charge who's the leader

02:07:46.600 now okay so but let's say in in one example let's say the christian husband suddenly becomes pagan and

02:07:52.940 is like we're not doing this anymore we're not going to church what did paul say yeah he said to stay

02:07:57.860 married but this but that doesn't mean that you have to follow the leadership on in that regard

02:08:03.160 i think that and this is explained very well in orthodoxy and the reason i bring up paul is just

02:08:09.220 because i think it's really funny to use that example against people who are naysayers but um

02:08:14.020 it has to comport with reason and so reason your husband can't tell you to sin he can't tell you to

02:08:18.600 go do a gangbang he can't tell you to go blow he can't tell you to go blow other men so for his own

02:08:22.760 personal immunity he can't tell you to do any of that stuff okay great what about if he just says

02:08:27.140 shut up i'm not going to justify anything to you what's the sin oh i'm not saying it's sinful well

02:08:32.480 then what's the problem you just don't like it right that's the problem yeah you you don't like

02:08:39.100 it yeah yeah so the thing is though as i said honest and you can't point to anything he's doing

02:08:43.260 wrong right it's just you don't like it and so when people people say well that's not very christian

02:08:48.700 when i point out at it i'm gonna give you the 2 000 years of history where it sure looked pretty

02:08:54.860 christian um i would just like to note how is it not i mean i guess technically it could be but

02:09:01.180 i was speaking in the context of like your relationship dynamic and what what would my

02:09:07.180 personal relationship dynamic have to do with anything but that's where the initial thing

02:09:11.300 came from because i heard you say that and i was like oh are you really like you are you really doing

02:09:16.180 it yeah sometimes i'm an absolute tyrant i'm like i believe i go i don't fucking care sometimes i don't

02:09:23.800 care and that's fine i don't have to care so the thing is is but i'm gonna take this a step further

02:09:30.160 and say that men who are running their marriage right if if they if they are like look i really

02:09:37.880 don't want to consult you about i don't know almost anything uh i i don't actually see a problem with

02:09:43.920 that do you think that maybe that contributes to like divorce rates well first of all i don't even

02:09:49.120 think it happens that much just so you know okay in fact i'd say if it happened more it would decrease

02:09:54.720 divorce rates probably well if they were like ah if they just came in and gave a patronizing

02:09:59.460 patent we're like oh honey shut the fuck up it's under control right i think it would actually

02:10:03.420 decrease divorces rather than coming in and being like i can't argue that hypothetical being like oh

02:10:07.920 oh i have so much anxiety from work right just saying i mean

02:10:13.960 i don't fully disagree there actually see i think this brings up the cultural topic that's kind of

02:10:20.880 rampant on tiktok right now and it's that women don't want to have to make decisions it's the idea

02:10:25.980 of the passenger princess like you want to be able to sit pretty and like let the man lead so i think

02:10:31.380 there's kind of merit to both of what you're saying but i mean i agree with that too yeah the one person

02:10:37.340 that i did go on dates with it's because they were like we're gonna go shooting at this time make sure

02:10:41.840 you wear closed toed shoes whatever whatever and as a mom and who also solely is the sole financial

02:10:48.040 provider you're right i don't you don't have to think tell me what we're doing but do it nicely

02:10:53.600 because i'm not going to deal with a condescending the tone oh i can't take the tone oh my god the

02:10:58.920 tone i mean i don't it's terrible you i'll wake up in the middle i'll wake up in the middle of the

02:11:03.340 night though and like smack you and be like oh my god i had a dream you were cheating it's like oh the

02:11:06.720 tone's fine then right no i don't do that shit but oh come on you've never done that shit

02:11:10.600 no but do you listen to bill burr because you kind of like you seem like you listen to bill

02:11:15.500 burr i like some bill burr stuff yeah okay you just like go into like kind of you kind of sound

02:11:22.620 like him sometimes well i mean great minds think alike agreed i'm sorry that he stole tons of my

02:11:28.820 comedy bits and has taken them on the road but i'm not going to hold it against him okay okay fair

02:11:33.080 right going to uh yucca is that how you say your name yes okay you had a perhaps a disagreement you

02:11:43.040 said that i think that if you are wanting a traditional relationship with someone who wants

02:11:48.040 to live a biblical life just because you have a dark past with a high body count our father has given

02:11:56.020 us the gift of forgiveness if you are living a new life

02:12:01.920 is desmond on the phone are you what's huh

02:12:10.180 if you're living a new life and have been living

02:12:15.760 austin austin austin austin austin austin austin austin austin austin austin austin austin austin

02:12:23.660 are you on a phone call

02:12:24.840 all right

02:12:27.960 now that you're here in chad street chatter

02:12:32.080 i don't didn't sound like yeah all right if you're living a new life and have been living a new

02:12:40.200 life for years that's what should matter so let here i'll start from the beginning

02:12:43.940 uh just because you have a dark past with a high body count our father has given us the gift of

02:12:49.120 forgiveness if you are living a new life and have been living a new life for years that's what

02:12:53.780 should matter nobody is perfect yeah i think uh you know god gives us um the opportunity to be

02:13:02.780 born again and be new people and uh you know if you've been living a new life you know you

02:13:08.700 let your old self die i think everybody should deserve you know another chance um nobody's

02:13:17.880 perfect we all struggle with different things and um like i said yeah just i think we all have

02:13:24.540 opportunity to let our old selves die and be a new person if we are living in christ yeah sure i think

02:13:30.140 that being forgiven for those things is not only appropriate but what christians are called to do

02:13:36.740 right is to um to ask for forgiveness for their sins right that's that's what they're supposed to

02:13:44.580 do but you know you wouldn't say a christian's obligated to in any way date uh or not reject

02:13:52.380 a woman based on body count right no i'm not saying that yeah so like if a guy was a christian

02:13:57.580 and he met with a christian woman and he really liked her he thought she was great but found out

02:14:03.200 that she had slept with 50 men and he was like well that's a deal breaker for me you don't have an

02:14:08.100 objection to that right no not at all okay so then in some ways i think that this is just a cope

02:14:13.360 position and the reason i think it's a cope position is because what happens is many of these women go

02:14:19.560 from literal online whoredom where they're like doing boy girl content on only fans things like this

02:14:26.160 and they go oh well shit it's 30 time to get married drop out of that and then move over and say

02:14:31.700 now i'm a christian but then they get into the dating market as a christian and these men are

02:14:37.680 like well i'm still not interested in you even though i'm a christian right that they still setting

02:14:42.260 themselves up for massive failure here like you sure god forgave you great and i'm glad you're a

02:14:47.980 christian i'm still not dating you right is that what they're gonna say i mean like even with age you

02:14:53.340 know that's that stuff makes you less optimal than dating like you were saying you know your childbearing

02:14:59.360 years are when you're younger so you know all i'm not disagreeing with that at all um yeah yeah so i

02:15:06.940 mean i just i don't really understand what the point is then like they understand i mean christians

02:15:14.420 understand the forgiveness aspect right yeah but not everybody has a perfect past you know a lot of

02:15:20.320 people were grown raised with uh traumatic life events where sure they didn't have both parents in

02:15:26.560 the household uh they didn't know you know what being loved by both parents was or you know grew

02:15:32.000 up with a bad past um yeah i agree with all that yeah but i'm not yeah i don't know i get i think it's

02:15:39.180 probably in reference to the episode that i was on where the girl like became a christian and then

02:15:43.840 brian's like kind of late now like i think that's probably less of like the christian is probably

02:15:50.780 so if when if it came to this idea of sexual dynamics then yeah it's becoming a christian

02:15:57.280 is not going to erase your sexual history pretty much only christians will be the ones if they have

02:16:02.400 if they hold that view that would kind of like be forgiving of it oh they'll forgive it that doesn't

02:16:09.400 mean that they're gonna that doesn't mean that they're gonna you know put a ring on it though right

02:16:13.120 and they don't have to so so is that it that's your position yeah so are you when you say forgive

02:16:26.400 like okay so you can be forgiven through your faith or whatever but you think it's like objectionable if

02:16:34.140 men would refuse to date you because of your dark past of a high body count i mean i'm not saying it's

02:16:41.620 objectionable um i just think that other people with similar past look at it like it's bad like

02:16:51.960 oh you can't do that but i can do it kind of like thing so why would that be a problem

02:16:58.340 it's giving like it's saying that women can't have bad past but the guy can have a bad past like i

02:17:07.300 don't think yeah well i mean it's just it's so this just comes down to preferences right

02:17:11.540 so it's like um this idea is okay let's let us assume for a moment you have a man he converts

02:17:19.400 around the same time you do let's assume inside the hypothetical that both of you slept with a

02:17:23.700 thousand people okay now saying you have of course not i'm just saying in the hypothetical we're just

02:17:28.840 like assuming this right doesn't even have to be you just woman man both of them slept with a thousand

02:17:33.600 guy or people they converted at the exact same time uh they meet each other they like each other

02:17:39.900 they both find out that the other one has slept with a thousand people it's a deal breaker for the

02:17:43.700 guy not for the girl says well wait a second you slept with a thousand two he says yeah but i don't

02:17:50.100 care i still don't want to date you based on the fact that you have i don't i still don't actually

02:17:55.160 see a problem with that like i can't figure out what the actual issue with that would be

02:17:59.480 i mean yeah i guess everybody has their own preferences but yeah i i don't think it would

02:18:05.680 be okay if both people have similar dark past and one person's like no i don't it's okay that i did it

02:18:10.800 but it's not okay that you did it well no well you're both starting from the same slate though so you

02:18:15.220 both you both have been forgiven for the sins right so and you're you're both you're both pursuing

02:18:20.680 christianity christian ethics right okay so you're you're starting equal so he just says okay based on

02:18:26.800 your past i'm not interested yeah i don't i don't agree with that i don't think that's okay

02:18:31.660 why is that not okay it's kind of hypocritical yeah but so what why can't you be hypocritical in

02:18:37.720 dating preferences because i think like i definitely um 100 right think that if you've ever slept with

02:18:49.820 a guy right that it would be a deal breaker with you if a guy ever slept with another guy would that

02:18:55.560 be a deal breaker if a guy that i slept with if a guy slept with another guy would that be a deal

02:19:00.760 breaker for you yeah have you ever slept with a guy fucking hypocrite you tell me have you ever

02:19:05.500 slept with a guy hypocrite have you yeah but not with somebody of the same sex so what you still

02:19:10.820 slept with a man and he slept with a man why would that be a deal breaker hypocrite because one

02:19:15.620 involves homosexuality and the other doesn't wait a second wait wait wait are they both sleeping

02:19:20.020 with men weak argument are they both sleeping with men better i'll refute it one has to do with

02:19:25.580 homosexuality so which doesn't okay it'll doesn't align with christian values okay wait a second

02:19:30.960 that wasn't my question my question had nothing to do with christian values my question was would you

02:19:36.860 ever date a guy who slept with a guy answer is no okay but he's expected to sleep with you who slept

02:19:44.160 with another guy it's like okay that would be hypocrisy tell me how it wouldn't be because she

02:19:50.500 probably wants men who are attracted to women they could still be attracted to women she would

02:19:55.260 okay are they only attracted to women yeah okay great so what so we could reduce anything that way

02:20:04.600 in fact we just endlessly make reductions but you should probably can you give a better

02:20:09.300 why do i need to give a closely aligned argument as soon as you give a logical refutation of the

02:20:13.960 first argument but you were the initial person arguing nope she was she said it's a hypocrisy

02:20:19.080 i gave an a counter example of hypocrisy you have refuted not my my example of hypocrisy you're just

02:20:25.740 not accepting that it's a false equivalency what's false about the equivalency one involves homosexuality

02:20:31.760 the other does not oh okay so anytime that you make an analogy between two things which are

02:20:37.600 hypocrisy you agree they're always going to be different right well hang on you agree with me

02:20:43.360 that anything you compare to anything else is always going to be different than the thing you're

02:20:49.280 comparing it to i think you can compare things that are a little bit more close not my question

02:20:52.940 you're evading no i think i don't is every every instance of hypocrisy is going to be different than

02:20:59.060 another so anytime you say you're a hypocrite no you're a hypocrite you both have done hypocritical

02:21:02.880 things that are not the same thing so really don't know where you're i think you do know no but okay

02:21:10.500 but in this case like i feel like we're like why would you not sleep with a man who slept with another

02:21:14.800 man is it because it's because of the homosexuality right yeah i'm yeah that's okay okay okay great if

02:21:21.340 you weren't a christian would you what's that if you weren't a christian would you sleep with a guy

02:21:25.180 yeah probably not yeah probably not yeah but it's still about the homosexuality oh wait the

02:21:33.940 entailment of the homosexuality here would be it's sinful if you're a secularist you can't say it's

02:21:38.180 sinful right you would just say it's gross it's yeah okay sure if that's what you think so there's

02:21:44.960 nothing wrong with having the preference of it's gross even if you've done the exact same thing

02:21:48.800 there's nothing wrong with having the preference of thinking i agree so her saying this is hypocrisy

02:21:55.220 great this is hypocrisy too well she can also choose to reject him based on his past correct

02:22:02.100 same even if she had the exact same equivalency like i don't like i will i would do it if the

02:22:08.840 compatibility was there enough but i don't necessarily want to date somebody with kids

02:22:12.560 you know what i mean even though i have them so i get it how many fucking hypocrite i have two

02:22:19.580 you wouldn't date a guy who has kids i would if we were like super compatible but it's not gonna

02:22:23.860 be the top of my list by far hypocrisy exactly like i'm owning it though it's it's actually fine

02:22:31.580 like it's fine to um to entertain hypocrisy when it comes to dating preferences i have no idea why it

02:22:37.280 wouldn't be like i'll give you a million more examples right um you probably would prefer to

02:22:44.180 have men who are taller than you yeah i mean i'm not requiring like six foot or anything but you

02:22:50.540 would probably like it right yeah okay would you reject a guy based on the fact that he wasn't

02:22:57.420 tall taller than you not always necessarily no what if he was bald no i like that okay

02:23:07.260 what if what if he was like really heinously ugly uh no i think there should be some physical

02:23:13.280 attraction not you know not it doesn't have to be like head over heels instantly but i think there

02:23:18.600 definitely needs to be some sort of so you can think of probably all kinds of preferences and traits

02:23:23.100 that you would like right to have in the other partner correct yeah yeah okay so let's back up and

02:23:32.500 take kind of a bird's eye view uh when you're talking about an argument from hypocrisy the

02:23:37.080 reason that it's fallacious to begin with like oh you're a hypocrite you should do this preferential

02:23:41.280 thing that i like is because it actually doesn't make any sense because whatever standard you're

02:23:46.180 holding them to you you could easily be held to the exact same standard back and you would likely

02:23:51.100 be a hypocrite when it came to dating like for instance uh you probably think a guy who has brown

02:23:56.480 eyes it's okay for him to reject a girl who has brown eyes is that hypocrisy no why

02:24:04.660 why not why not they have right to choose what they have a right they have a right to choose based

02:24:12.280 on their preferences right yeah yeah so if they both have the same body count why can't he just

02:24:16.500 to still say no it's too high

02:24:18.120 i don't know i think those are just that's a different level of standards

02:24:24.300 that people hold to each other like i i guess what my take is it's just a lot of people uh overlook the

02:24:35.920 forgiveness aspect and i'm not saying that if you don't want to make that choice to be with that

02:24:41.180 person because of their past like i'm not saying that that's not okay but you know i just think that

02:24:47.360 do you think that um people who have assaulted children have essayed children can be forgiven

02:24:53.040 i mean they can be forgiven right they can be forgiven yeah you're gonna let them watch your

02:25:01.160 kids no no so just because you've been forgiven for a thing right yeah i see what you're saying

02:25:08.420 doesn't necessarily mean that suddenly oh well we're just going to look past what you did right

02:25:13.940 mm-hmm so yeah i see what you're saying yeah all right i'm good all right uh moving to bella

02:25:21.000 bella you said you met up with a guy that you met on 4chan slash discord in the hotel to fuck

02:25:25.960 yeah so i actually like started all of my 4chan to discord pipeline really yeah well i actually started

02:25:33.340 like my online presence like on 4chan i basically just posted a selfie and it got a lot of attention

02:25:40.740 and then i started posting a lot on the same board and i made a discord server for myself and i got a

02:25:47.740 lot of like orbiters or simps or whatever and um one of the guys we ended up having a lot in common and i

02:25:55.140 found him attractive and he was like would you want to meet up and hook up and i was like sure why not

02:26:01.340 if you drive and pay for everything sure so he drove here and we hooked up and then he went home

02:26:07.380 mm-hmm okay cool all right you said that women have it way easier than men when it comes to dating

02:26:17.920 slash getting hookups yeah um i think that because of the fact that men want sex so bad

02:26:30.080 um i think it's a lot easier for women yes um but in dating in general um also just because i think it's

02:26:42.500 like a thing in our society whether it be due to like biological aspects or like you know societal

02:26:50.160 aspects because like men are often the ones courting women so like women don't usually have to take the

02:26:57.760 initiative um so like you know like as a woman like i never really approach guys and i think i have it

02:27:06.100 easier in that way like men just you know like i think it's more common for men to just approach

02:27:12.140 women and that's what i mean by easier

02:27:14.300 mm-hmm yeah and then this is from your own your own experience

02:27:19.700 also i mean it's from my own experience and just like i feel like every woman's experience honestly

02:27:27.720 like but i think it's like um i feel like the controversial part is that like um

02:27:35.480 i think that there's a negative side to that too because if you're like an unattractive woman

02:27:43.600 um like men won't really give you the light of day at all like they will kind of see you as invisible

02:27:49.740 whereas like if they see an unattractive man like they'll still see them as like a peer i completely

02:27:55.920 disagree i think it's actually harder for better looking women um men don't approach you as often

02:28:00.680 because they are intimidated with getting rejected and the average or lesser looking women actually get

02:28:07.500 approached more because men don't want their egos to be shut i mean it depends on like how attractive

02:28:12.860 you are though i guess like if you're like a 10 yeah guys will be scared to approach you but that's

02:28:18.580 because they like admire you so much you don't have to be a 10 i don't know about admiration i mean i

02:28:24.140 just think it's a psychological it's almost like when you're fishing right like you want to draw your

02:28:29.520 line and you want to get a bite and i think a man's gonna go for someone that's more demure and less

02:28:36.360 resistant to their advances yeah but i guess okay i guess like you're talking about like average

02:28:45.020 looking women i'm like talking about like unattractive women like i think unattractive

02:28:50.120 women have it really hard because those are the ones they marry

02:28:53.240 well i mean like it's just like because i like when i was like a little bit younger like i've lost a lot

02:29:01.860 of weight and like i've like noticed a big difference in just like the way that like men

02:29:06.000 have treated me and it's like not even in like a romantic sense but just in like how they treat me

02:29:13.360 as a human and i think it's because of how they view me like or like if they see me as attractive

02:29:20.520 or not you know okay uh but you did say that you know you said women have it a lot easier than men

02:29:29.060 when it comes to dating but a lot of that is a result of the patriarchy yeah so that's like what

02:29:35.420 i was kind of getting into there is like i think that the whole thing with women having it easier was

02:29:44.400 like created by men because they kind of view women as like a prize a lot of the time and it's not

02:29:52.600 necessarily like like we're not necessarily like asking for that attention um well right now

02:29:59.000 what's happening in 2024 is beta males actually view themselves as the prize because they're not

02:30:03.820 taking the lead so like men for example who asked you out on the date who planned the date to said

02:30:08.200 we're gonna go shooting like wear this those are the alpha males the ones that don't have to say they

02:30:13.120 are i am so irritated by these accounts like on instagram that like have to say they're an alpha

02:30:17.800 male like no you're actually not because the true masculine energy just leads and so i don't

02:30:23.200 necessarily think that women quote unquote having it easier was created by men i don't even think

02:30:27.520 women do have it easier i don't think either sex has it easier i think there's i definitely think

02:30:32.420 women have it easier maybe certain kinds of women i know which which ones yeah which ones don't actually

02:30:41.380 i'm curious too is it you said it was the hot ones that if you have if if a man doesn't have

02:30:47.840 a big enough of a set to handle a woman who's intelligent and smart and attractive and maybe

02:30:54.840 successful then yeah it is it is hard you you mean it's a thing brian wait you mean a pain in the ass

02:31:02.300 no because you can be you can you can never talk to you you can you can be successful in your skill

02:31:09.320 or profession and be subservient in your relationship and submit so i don't think the two

02:31:15.880 should conflict is that something that you usually see with boss babes that they're very submissive

02:31:21.580 i don't want to be a boss baby i think that's all women who have careers and are very career

02:31:26.920 oriented highly career oriented want to see themselves succeed in their careers are usually

02:31:30.840 boss babes because that's been my experience here's what i don't usually see in women who are

02:31:35.520 super driven towards careers that they're super submissive to men haven't seen that very much where

02:31:40.780 are you finding all these super driven career submissive women i'd love to know i think what happens is

02:31:45.680 certain people have been led in a certain direction because they don't feel they have the option

02:31:50.580 there aren't enough men that are up to par with christian values or leading i mean there's so

02:31:59.180 many beta males right now you can agree with that there's a lot of men right now that are my distinction

02:32:04.360 here is like i think i would agree with you there's way too many fucking simps for sure um but when you

02:32:11.740 say when you say a beta male all right versus an alpha male um i don't even i don't even believe in

02:32:18.000 those categories those are bad categories right well how maybe society so these like the out the

02:32:23.640 alpha hierarchy i just i just think it's nonsense but but um like if you if you're talking about like

02:32:30.020 a sissified man or something like this sure right i can i can see that or a simp or this type of thing

02:32:36.160 but i'd still like to know this phenomenon of where you're finding all of these really submissive career

02:32:42.040 driven women like where do you think i don't think i don't think unless you're like a straight

02:32:46.920 up liberal and just delusional i don't think there's any women who want to be career driven i

02:32:52.960 think it's the choice that you have because you haven't found any kind of a situation where you're

02:32:57.440 going to be provided for you're not just going to sit in your dad's garage at 18 and just wait for

02:33:01.660 some night to come save you that's just not the reality of the world and based on the destruction

02:33:06.520 of the nuclear family that's where we're at that's career driven then it seems like if you're

02:33:10.880 getting a career because uh that's the of the alternative you have to being taken care of

02:33:16.700 then that's not you being driven towards career that's you getting a career because it's the only

02:33:21.480 way that you can make ends meet seems like that's something you would give up very quickly

02:33:24.880 if uh if you if you didn't have to make ends meet so i don't i don't really understand

02:33:30.280 where that drive is exactly i don't understand it either but i can tell you that my ex the girl he

02:33:37.560 was with in the years that we were apart like she he offered for her to live with him and him pay all

02:33:43.340 the bills and stuff she's like no i want to get my phd you can kind of like fuck off and uh i don't

02:33:48.140 want to have kids either at least not for many years i'm just focused on this and i'm like um

02:33:52.960 hi i'll live with you i think it's crazy to not accept that but and some of it's just like you

02:34:03.200 can't like the reliability of men too like you have to just a guy i can tell you firsthand i was

02:34:08.940 married to someone who wanted to be a provider and all the things and then ended up well i can't get

02:34:14.400 into that but it ended up going left so that's where the fear comes from for a lot of women but

02:34:20.120 some women just genuinely don't have that drive in there and also ironically she was submissive to

02:34:25.340 him and like we're kind of even keel with one another and i'm more like trad wifey i guess

02:34:30.860 and it's also a thing where people assume trad wives are going to always be submissive and just

02:34:36.760 like let their partner steamroll over them all the time and that's also not the case like there's so

02:34:40.660 many variables this all depends on how you want to define things right but tradition like how would

02:34:48.440 you even define tradition it's actually a hard word to define what a nuclear family looks like the man

02:34:55.300 works i mean you wouldn't define tradition as just being nuclear family tradition has a specific

02:35:00.840 meaning in regards to dating though well i mean just in general what would you what would you say

02:35:05.640 tradition is following what generations before you did yeah i think i think there's some truth i don't

02:35:12.720 think that that captures it but it kind of has the right idea to be charitable right best way i heard

02:35:17.620 this described was um tradition would be experiments that cultures have done that work

02:35:23.220 right that's that's kind of a thing that we would point to as being tradition like christmas for

02:35:28.980 instance it seems to be kind of this experiment that the culture did and it seems to work fine

02:35:34.200 right it's a stressful time of the year and we just can't seem to wait for it or wait for it to be

02:35:38.340 over uh but it's it's something that seems to work uh halloween these different holidays uh all

02:35:45.040 sorts of different traditional kind of aspects of american culture right uh or western culture

02:35:51.540 biblical etc these are all experiments which work so what happens when experiments start breaking down

02:35:56.360 like the liberal experiment the progressive experiment people start to look at the experiments

02:36:00.360 that worked right and they go okay we got to move back to those experiments because they worked

02:36:05.040 so that's what i think traditionalism is right so i think that the modern woman wants to have a cake

02:36:09.580 eat it too because at the time that marriages were working women didn't have a fucking say

02:36:14.360 okay that's the truth you want to see the time where um there was almost no divorce right we can we

02:36:21.860 show you a time when the happiness index was likely happier file for divorce so does it count no they

02:36:26.640 could like so you're accounting for like past the 80s they could they could show they could show

02:36:30.700 cause for divorce even the church granted divorce for infidelity things like this but even in the early

02:36:35.660 1920s 1930s right 1940s people were are were much much much happier and everybody you ask in modernity

02:36:43.360 i've asked this question a million times you think people were happier in the 1950s you are right now

02:36:48.760 almost every time the answer is yes i think they were interestingly enough women couldn't have the

02:36:53.400 credit cards though right women couldn't have they they didn't have all this stuff they didn't have

02:36:57.880 all this shit very strange to me right why it is they didn't have any of these kind of feminist

02:37:04.660 uh ideals and yet seemed to be far happier uh when they didn't have all this say so i think when

02:37:11.840 people say tradition they don't really mean tradition they mean i want modernity with this kind of

02:37:17.080 larping aspect the larping aspect being yay i get to stay at home and not fucking do shit right yay

02:37:23.800 this is great but i don't think that's traditional what's traditional about that and tradition is

02:37:30.740 supposed to be that you obey that's supposed to be the tradition the tradition is not supposed to be

02:37:37.620 egalitarianism in the household that's modernity it's the opposite of tradition but yeah right but

02:37:43.260 why not because just the word makes you sick because you've been completely brainwashed just

02:37:48.080 been worked on your entire life that obedience to a man you have a bit as good as him even though it

02:37:52.780 has nothing to do with good there was one of those burr moments um has nothing to do with good right

02:37:57.420 well maybe maybe it's my social programming but just my personality type in general but like obey

02:38:01.700 oh don't not a fan um but i am a fan of doing the cooking and the cleaning and all of the things

02:38:07.280 that you like to do right but that's not obedience i like to cook yeah but it's not ob it's not obedience

02:38:13.160 for you to do things you like to do it's obedience for you to do things that you don't like to do when

02:38:16.720 you're told to do them that's obedience but we could also just say that the nuclear family dynamic works

02:38:21.720 better and you don't also have to be like totally subservient to your partner it doesn't work what

02:38:27.440 breaks it down is the lack of subservience from the woman the lack of obedience from the woman is

02:38:32.620 what breaks it almost every single time this is why you tell me why are they filing for divorce at

02:38:38.560 such high rates why are they moving pushing back against men at such high rates they're completely

02:38:43.460 disobedient their relationships looks like you have something on this go ahead no i mean you agree do you

02:38:50.680 agree or disagree with angie i don't agree why um for a few reasons i don't know you want to

02:38:58.360 articulate those uh on what specific points like obeying obeying okay so i mean mission

02:39:08.240 i don't know if somebody wants to obey i just yeah it's not obedience yeah he's like i'll do

02:39:18.220 i'll do what you want if i want to it's like well where does the obey part come in well i'll follow

02:39:27.100 you as soon as i think that i need to follow you when you when i decide that it's okay to follow you

02:39:34.780 then i'll follow you office but um no but like maybe obedience doesn't need to factor in though

02:39:39.680 maybe we could just get back to men being providers and leaders and women being mothers and caretakers

02:39:45.020 and taking stress off of the men by handling the things that they don't have the time to do if

02:39:49.320 they're yeah that's great you get all the perks and the benefits i mean not like i don't think most

02:39:53.880 women also want to cook clean and you know oh no oh that's so hard to cook and clean look at this

02:39:59.020 i don't think it's hard if someone else so you get to so you get to stay home all day you get the luxury

02:40:02.680 of being at home with your own children you don't have to outsource that if you're not lazy and you

02:40:07.220 actually homeschool and if you're not your kid's going somewhere else for eight hours a day

02:40:11.640 literally eight hours a day while you're at home oh my god no i literally agree with you on this

02:40:16.480 is terrible this is horrible it is hard what it's horrible what's happening to women it's like no

02:40:21.680 it's not hard and it is hard on top of that you say okay i get all the perks all the benefits

02:40:26.960 but i don't you know i don't want to do that obedience i have a question um fuck that obedience

02:40:33.240 thing and it's like and i'm not saying that's a pretty raw deal for men but like also like i can't

02:40:37.360 even imagine a situation where one would need to be obedient because i'm like looking at my

02:40:41.220 boyfriends and like ex-husband and like well maybe when it matters that's when like so give

02:40:47.040 me an example of like like what that's what i was going to say like what extent is multiple examples

02:40:52.040 like do you think you can beat your wife for example like do you think that that's acceptable

02:40:55.800 no okay but okay but like to what extent do you think she should obey though like what if she

02:41:00.860 disobeys you within the confines of reason like so just give me she has to be obedient within the

02:41:04.980 confines of reason beating your wife would be sinful okay well if she doesn't obey you what do you do

02:41:08.980 what would you do what for for disobedience yeah well the same things that she would do

02:41:13.760 right now you would first you would uh try reason right you explain what their duties are

02:41:19.320 and you would go to your community in this case the church to see if you could get

02:41:23.560 this reconciled right because it's a problem and what if she continues to disobey well then there's

02:41:28.740 going to be uh extreme problems inside of the marriage and it's going to be a lot of fucking misery

02:41:33.760 that's what but marriage takes work between both people yeah i'm not disputing that it's like

02:41:39.320 somebody doesn't want to do something i still want an example there's there's no disputing well

02:41:43.460 okay i'm fine giving those examples right but when the person asks me a question i have to give

02:41:48.120 that answer then i have to give that answer now we've circled back to this one okay so exactly

02:41:52.480 discipline discipline is a great one right what if your husband wants to discipline he wants to

02:41:56.980 use a belt can he yeah see it's like it's so easy honestly i'm not i'm gonna get so much shit for

02:42:05.780 this i'm not totally against spanking like i think it's got to be age appropriate and it's got to be

02:42:09.860 not yeah but why do you get to decide that not him because they're half mine and it is also my job

02:42:15.520 to yeah but i mean okay again i guess that's one example this would be disobedience immediately it's

02:42:19.980 like okay no i think that it is the right age no i don't what if he wants to take them i'll disobey

02:42:24.740 yeah or yeah exactly so so you'll move into the the kind of like disobedient road and so

02:42:30.140 this is an easy example uh schooling um extensions of of what types of things you'd want them to do

02:42:37.480 for let's say you want them to play music or you want them to have uh these curriculums maybe you're

02:42:41.940 disagreeing on those things ultimately somebody's going to have to ultimately be the decider i think

02:42:46.700 again but when i'm talking about disobedience specifically it's like no you don't get to beat

02:42:52.580 your wife that's insane doesn't comport with reason right but you can use shaming tactics and

02:42:58.300 utilize the church to assist you in uh kind of moving moving and counseling the relationship the

02:43:05.200 right direction this is actually uh it's below the threshold but alvin sam this is a great super chat

02:43:10.460 you have a problem being submissive but demand chivalry and breadwinners well that's what i was

02:43:15.440 pointing out already right is that like you get to stay at home you got all the perks of this

02:43:20.140 uh but no i you know as long as as long as i keep getting what i want you do what i say

02:43:26.500 well i just think it for for me personally it's circumstantial and i'm willing to budge on a lot

02:43:30.940 of things like i'm not probably as combative as maybe i'm making myself seem um but you're not just

02:43:39.000 gonna especially when because i have kids and they're my kids um so maybe my perspective on it's a

02:43:45.340 a little bit different than if we had a shared child um well i'm willing to budge on a lot of

02:43:52.180 things yeah maybe right but that's not really the point so the point really isn't reduced to

02:43:58.180 you know if i think that i should submit because it sounds reasonable i will uh that's beside the

02:44:06.120 point the point is supposed to be when it doesn't seem reasonable to you to submit that you will that's

02:44:12.360 the point um you said something about the woman benefits i guess most if the man's the breadwinner

02:44:19.660 providing and and yep um one thing i want to comment on is if the woman is providing homeschooling to the

02:44:28.460 child let's just say it's that sort of scenario because right now a lot of people have issues with

02:44:33.500 the school system yep well then the man also is benefiting because that wife is capable of providing

02:44:39.340 schooling for the child so that they don't get indoctrinated in the school systems that could

02:44:43.280 be the bare minimum the bare minimum of duty and responsibility of a good mother is that if she

02:44:48.600 is enabled by her husband to stay at home uh and homeschool her kids then she should that should be

02:44:53.460 a duty that this is not when i see this idea it's like a top it's like somebody's spinning a top it

02:45:00.140 makes no sense to me it's like look at this great thing i'm doing no this is a baseline duty it's a

02:45:05.640 baseline duty you know the public school's fucked you know they're indoctrinating your kids you know

02:45:09.020 they're doing horrible things to them right you know this it's like so you have a duty if you can

02:45:14.440 to stay home and you know homeschool your kids you have this duty i consider that to be a baseline

02:45:21.240 i would not consider that to be something in addition that you're doing in the benefit of

02:45:25.660 your own offspring agree that most women aren't doing it let's just say he marries someone who

02:45:30.800 isn't capable of doing that i would love to be able to homeschool my kids i think it's something

02:45:34.840 that's necessary right now considering everything that's going on but i just think that it's unfair

02:45:39.460 to say that only the woman's benefiting them from the man being the breadwinner there's a dual benefit

02:45:44.220 only i'm never okay so i don't usually deal in monoliths sometimes it because there are some

02:45:50.520 all statements which are okay but i don't usually deal in monoliths so uh it's not that there's only

02:45:57.580 the benefit to the woman i'm saying the vast majority of the benefit is to the woman i just wanted to

02:46:01.580 clarify that right the vast majority is to the woman and the ability i think is a gift i think

02:46:06.340 a man's giving a woman a gift that she can be able to stay at home with her own kids because i got to

02:46:10.560 tell you right now you're a single mom for instance i bet you wish you were it be you were able to stay

02:46:15.020 at home with your kids 100 and so like that's a massive gift to give them but not enough to deal

02:46:20.480 with um with actually submitting husband yeah but think about what you just said here right see that to

02:46:26.400 me is that's also bizarre to me i don't understand that self-sacrifice for the purpose of your

02:46:32.780 children i thought you were supposed to be the nurturing ones so yeah okay but my situation's a

02:46:37.840 little bit different but i'm not saying you have to put up with physical abuse things like that but

02:46:42.180 the concession of just obedience for a great for a better life for your kids it just seems like it's

02:46:47.280 such an easy thing to concede on and yet so many women are like i just i just cute i just couldn't

02:46:52.880 possibly i just couldn't possibly but there are provider men who are happy to involve you in every

02:46:59.340 discussion and like there be compromise there's always this idea that like because the man ultimately

02:47:06.920 decides that means a woman's never getting consulted right but for example like you talked about the

02:47:11.840 spanking thing like that might be one thing that i take a stand on and he may be like okay on this one

02:47:16.680 and that's okay it doesn't mean that men who like he's suddenly just because of that one instance where

02:47:22.060 he didn't put his foot down no sure he can he can make a concession to a reasonable suggestion of

02:47:27.360 course there's nothing wrong with that has nothing again to do with the fact though that what if he

02:47:31.960 didn't so it's not that okay you made a great point about spanking and he's like you know what that's

02:47:36.720 a really good point and i think that we'll do that the question is what if he doesn't if he goes

02:47:41.560 ah i know you think that's a great point but you're fucking wrong and i'm gonna do it anyway

02:47:47.080 yeah right that's where i would probably concede on a lot of other things that is not one right

02:47:52.040 so it's it's the idea of the concession with the obedience that like you still know better and so

02:47:57.080 that's why these relationships i think break down i just do think there needs to be more emphasis

02:48:01.940 placed on the value of a stay-at-home mom who is successfully raising the kids and homeschooling

02:48:07.600 because the amount of money you'd be spending on child care and education if they sent if you send

02:48:11.900 them to a private school it's free what are you talking about if you send them to private school

02:48:15.280 no yeah private school first of all okay first of all public schools right um you put them on a

02:48:22.060 school bus if you're uh under the income threshold they get a free lunch they get free breakfast in

02:48:27.240 many of them uh they get free extracurricular activities you have to get them some backpacks

02:48:32.800 and shit low income people almost everything is subsidized for them when it comes to schooling

02:48:37.280 almost everything well public schooling isn't really free because your taxes are paying for it and

02:48:41.820 you're costing them the rest of their life don't own letter letter yeah okay it's it's just a matter

02:48:48.000 of what you value more do you value having a wife who's going to be at home and be a stay-at-home mom

02:48:54.060 and homeschool them and give you that better education i just think there needs to be more

02:48:58.100 emphasis placed on that because i knew growing up a lot of us didn't value those moms that were stay-at-home

02:49:02.720 moms and that's a fallacy like most low income people first of all don't pay property taxes

02:49:07.700 okay they may be affected by them but they don't pay them because they don't own property

02:49:12.160 okay poor people don't own property they're not paying property taxes when the levies get passed

02:49:16.460 they're getting passed by people who don't own property because they're outnumbering the property

02:49:19.920 owners okay that's one two all of the all of them they're under the income threshold it's all free

02:49:26.140 and the lunches are free everything is completely subsidized for them totally subsidized five years of

02:49:33.620 their life before they go to school because daycare is not free you're not homeschooling them and you're

02:49:38.160 at home at what are you homeschooling them to do at five watch sesame street what do you mean

02:49:42.640 my kids are already well my oldest my three-year-old is already preschool ready because you do montessori

02:49:47.980 type homeschooling yeah that's that's finger pants no it's not yeah what's preschool what do you mean

02:49:53.460 yeah what do you learn to do preschool how to how to lick glue my three-year-old knows all his letters

02:49:57.540 and the the sounds of each he knows phonics he knows how to count he knows three-year-old can't read

02:50:03.040 i know but he knows phonics yeah because because he he probably watches a show where he memorized a

02:50:09.480 b c d e f g all day you're not teaching a three-year-old massive skills yes i am their entire

02:50:15.920 do i not her kids are i literally lesson plan for them i literally their their room is a preschool

02:50:22.800 great i yeah so and but that's not the point the point is the first five years you do have to pay for

02:50:28.100 daycare and it is it costs no not if you have a stay-at-home wife exactly yeah that's the point

02:50:33.780 she's making what's the point that's the benefit and you're trying to say well well school's free

02:50:37.920 it's not that's a gift to her she gets to stay home with him the first five years it's a gift to

02:50:42.240 him as well no that's not a gift to him pay for daycare okay okay let's back up okay um do you think

02:50:49.520 that if the roles could be reversed right like let's say the average man okay a woman was like

02:50:57.780 okay you know what i'm gonna go and work my fucking ass off every day so that you can stay home

02:51:05.100 with the kids do you think that that's a better or worse deal for them

02:51:08.640 actual deal i would i would be happy like to do one or the other i don't know i don't care which one

02:51:14.860 i don't want to do both anymore um better or worse deal for him for him yeah he doesn't have to work

02:51:21.360 that's right but it's also so hang on so it's a better deal for you because you don't have to work

02:51:26.140 why don't you want to do it then i think the point is that it's equally beneficial and that it's not

02:51:31.060 equally beneficial i think it is and i think that whoever the stay-at-home partner is who's investing

02:51:36.120 in the kids often goes underappreciated which i think is her point and that's what she's trying

02:51:41.280 no i don't think they're underappreciated i think that there's an overemphasis put on them over the

02:51:45.720 working father and that the truth is that the working father is the one who enables all this

02:51:51.520 to begin with and is giving the greatest gift in the world to a mother which is those first five

02:51:56.660 years you know they're not coming back you never get them again you already miss your three-year-old

02:52:00.720 you miss when they were one and you're already thinking about all the shit that they did at one

02:52:04.860 that you miss oh i miss when they did that i miss when they did this now they're getting so big

02:52:09.880 you had the great gift of being there for that entire spread of time yes and it's like what does

02:52:15.800 he get nothing to save money he get oh no well not really by the way by the way if he is under

02:52:22.040 if he's under a certain threshold right you get all sorts of subsidies for daycare too no no no

02:52:26.680 listen i am a single mom and i don't get shit well you could be over the income threshold

02:52:31.540 i'm literally do you realize that this is based around where you live as well okay so but then you

02:52:37.620 can't make a generalized statement when the benefits that people think exist are not there

02:52:42.040 for single moms or single parents in general or even come on you get ebt you get wick you get all

02:52:46.440 kinds of shit i did not get working i got denied for wick i got denied first for t-a-n-s because you're

02:52:52.060 over the the income threshold i don't know why the hell i was denied because i'm not okay but anyway

02:52:58.240 but you weren't supposed to be is the point and i was like look subsidies there's you're subsidized to

02:53:04.360 all get out okay if you're single and you have kids you get all sorts of subsidies the man is

02:53:10.280 again giving you gift allowing you to stay at home no one is disputing that yeah they are no i'm not

02:53:17.360 in this in this room is anybody i think at this table you're saying there needs to be more of an

02:53:21.820 emphasis put on her no i think i think that well sure men should be appreciated for working more and

02:53:26.860 i honestly especially and i can even admit this with my marriage um i didn't always have a great

02:53:32.560 appreciation or even understanding for how much work my my ex-husband was putting in bet you do

02:53:38.400 now yeah no i definitely do and i can own that however i think both parties should be appreciated

02:53:44.940 maybe neither are but we can talk about both and we don't have to deny one to appreciate there's no

02:53:51.440 denial okay yeah you did no it's not a denial listen it's not a denial of there's value here in fact

02:53:57.680 i made specifically sure to clarify and say i didn't say it's not valuable i said it's not as

02:54:04.840 valuable i feel like in the i guess that's subjective yeah i don't i don't think it's

02:54:10.580 subjective i think that if let me just ask you this let me just let me just ask you this then

02:54:15.460 right if if you uh had the luxury of being able to stay at home because you you haven't been able to

02:54:23.140 write with your kids right right would you yeah in a second yes would you do anything you could

02:54:28.720 possibly do to have that luxury oh i don't know within reason like i'm not going to settle for

02:54:32.520 someone i don't want right so you wouldn't sacrifice for it but there's i think i think that there are

02:54:37.100 people uh women and i think most women actually would because because maybe they would you can't

02:54:43.060 get that you got to work right but i'm not going to live inauthentically and i don't want to set an

02:54:47.240 example to my kids that they have to live a lie either but yeah i'm sure they'll thank you for

02:54:52.020 outsourcing their care when they're older well they're they're great right now i'm just dressed

02:54:55.940 the fuck out but i'll tell you this if i ever am in a position to be a state well i did it the first

02:55:01.940 time though but and i but some women don't do this it's crazy i will see some stay-at-home moms

02:55:06.360 they don't even clean the fucking house yeah which is wild yeah so i do think they're pretty enabled

02:55:11.860 if you're in that position like you should appreciate it it is a blessing and you know rub his feet yeah

02:55:18.680 but they don't i know yeah and i don't think that's right so again highly underappreciated and

02:55:23.380 yes i think there is an over emphasis even by feminists who say oh no we should value start

02:55:27.880 valuing stay-at-home moms again it's like okay great uh but never hear any emphasis on working

02:55:33.640 fathers and that it's actually a gift they're giving these women to allow them to stay at home

02:55:37.980 with the children i feel like in this economy right now too i know uh many of my friends um are

02:55:44.140 their husbands are requiring them to work at least working from home while they have kids too

02:55:48.860 i'm gonna be single so i'm just curious how that would play in because for financial stability

02:55:52.880 squeeze it's so difficult right now on one income they're requiring a small part-time job while

02:55:58.120 they're still at home so what no no full-time but from full-time from home well that's a different

02:56:03.600 story then now now you have a different requirement we're not the thing is though is we're not

02:56:08.660 discussing whether or not um you have a like a working wife at home who's working full-time

02:56:15.140 from home and that that wouldn't create dynamics which are different we all can see that that's

02:56:19.800 true talking right now on a woman who's staying at home and is given the gift of being able to take

02:56:25.420 care of her kids should she submit to her husband or not but because and the idea here basically is

02:56:31.060 like if she wants to but because there are so many women in most ways see from my perspective though

02:56:36.760 right and we'll get to this in just a second i promise i just want to finish this comment um

02:56:41.040 from my perspective it's like well then why would he want to get married to you and have you stay

02:56:45.280 home with the kid like why would they do it it just seems so stupid to me like that's why these

02:56:49.820 secularists are like look andrew give me the great reason to get married i'm like i can't because

02:56:54.600 you're gonna get married to a chick and she's gonna be like i'm your dad and i love you and i'm gonna

02:56:58.480 submit i'm gonna obey and blah blah blah blah and then he's gonna go work right and she's not

02:57:03.060 gonna obey shit she's gonna divorce him she's gonna take half his shit and she's gonna leave

02:57:07.180 him uh you know kind of up shit creek without a paddle so i'm just like well you could do that

02:57:12.580 or you could just kind of well i don't know check out both ways though check out of the secular

02:57:17.040 well not really not if i look at the stats that does not always play out um again you can't point

02:57:24.040 to every outlier i know but i don't think it's as big of a thing as you think it is these days and

02:57:27.840 maybe it's just a texas thing and i'll admit that because i don't know how in texas they don't

02:57:31.540 want stay-at-home moms who obey okay tell me no no no well first of all there's like objective

02:57:37.140 stats that men benefit from marriage more than women do when it comes to their health when it

02:57:41.660 comes to their financial stability look it up erroneous yes no no these this is this is all true

02:57:48.380 but their social status you have some you have some pretty major flaws with it though okay and

02:57:53.360 yeah let me start with the first one which is um well oh men make they earn more money when

02:57:58.960 they're married yeah because they have to right okay so what they end up having to do is work longer

02:58:03.420 hours right instead of shorter hours and because they work longer hours they're at work more so they

02:58:09.100 do less high-risk behavior than when they work shorter hours and they're having a ton of fun

02:58:13.720 so if you were to ask the benefit though yeah but i'm not sure what's the benefit here that they have a

02:58:18.920 longer life they have better health hang on that men take slightly more risk because they work less

02:58:23.680 hours and are having way more fun or they can't afford to take slightly more risk because they

02:58:28.960 have to pick up way more hours at work to take care of other people who aren't them you tell me

02:58:34.500 it's not the only variable but i think having a long life and better health and more money and

02:58:37.820 maybe we can argue the money part well first of all and by the way you're not including the religious

02:58:41.940 stats here and that the number one correlate between happiness and marriage is religion and how

02:58:47.460 religious you are when you're talking about secular marriages all of these other correlates that

02:58:51.900 you're talking about which do increase they increase much much less and it seems to me again

02:58:57.640 that oh you can take less risk you can take less risk and work way more hours so that you can support

02:59:04.120 the family or you can work way less and take more risk but in any given scenario we can add a million

02:59:09.220 variables to go off course the point is there are benefits to marriage there are objective benefits to

02:59:13.900 marriage for men that outweigh those two women in some groups for some men in some groups it's just

02:59:20.680 well documented yes and i'm giving you the well documented parts okay because i picked these studies

02:59:26.000 apart so there's those benefits it's also a benefit to not have to do the cooking to not have to do the

02:59:30.300 cleaning to not have to worry about running all the errands you get a fucking maid what are you

02:59:33.780 talking about for it you know how cheap it is to have a maid versus stay-at-home mom not really

02:59:39.000 because i'm a residential cleaner and i cost a lot of money how much do you cost 200 bucks a week

02:59:43.700 no what to come into one house and clean one house way different than that no i never charge

02:59:49.560 less than like 40 bucks an hour okay so how long does it take you to do your cleaning four hours depends

02:59:54.760 on what kind of cleaning it is but but we're not just talking about cleaning we're talking about

02:59:58.260 errands we're talking about child care we're talking about cooking we're talking about meal planning

03:00:01.540 great meal planning you can get all of your meals online planned and literally shipped to you now

03:00:07.320 that's how many people do though tons especially bodybuilders but the second thing is it's like

03:00:12.640 it's not really fucking hard to cook super easy especially if you're just cooking for you especially

03:00:17.860 if you're just cooking for you and then the third thing is it's like no maids are not expensive to

03:00:22.180 come in and clean your house i'm sorry i have i have one professionally come in and clean my house

03:00:25.920 once a month it's not very much money not very much money takes them four hours they're out

03:00:30.580 and they do a really good job so it's like no it's not very expensive so hold on hold on you have a

03:00:37.160 wife does she work uh well yeah and she does now okay yeah slightly have a maid when she didn't

03:00:44.660 no of course not okay the only reason i have a maid is because they do a deep clean right deep detail

03:00:50.480 clean okay what does your wife do i'm just curious uh she's an author oh okay yeah well i'm curious

03:00:57.860 though um hearkening back to earlier when you were talking about um obedience when you have a husband

03:01:04.220 that in this economy is requiring his wife to also work full-time from home how would that play into

03:01:10.420 you know how how much say she should have in in their children and then just household in general

03:01:16.860 hang on repeat that because i want to make sure i get it so when you have a situation where the

03:01:21.640 where the wife is being required to work by her husband because it's you know financially more stable

03:01:28.660 in this economy how would that come in being more submissive the woman when she's working

03:01:33.400 you know equal hours yeah so the idea here generally well i would think that you'd want the idea to be

03:01:38.680 working around the children right and so this idea is supposed to be temporary i think if you have

03:01:44.540 temporary work like over in a bind or we need x or whatever that okay you're making the sacrifice for

03:01:50.740 a year or two but he's still going to be out there working for the whole life right so it's like sure you

03:01:55.680 can make some temporary sacrifices but i'm not really sure again how that's more valuable than

03:01:59.700 what he's doing i don't think anybody's saying it's more i just think you're saying that it should

03:02:06.580 be noticed and i don't think that it is very much or like the level of input that the woman has in

03:02:11.160 the relationship should maybe increase depending on if how if she's doing equal amount of work

03:02:15.640 yeah no i still don't i still think that it should be stuck under the patriarchate but here's the thing

03:02:22.860 let me let me create a differential here the first differential is under a secularist form i don't

03:02:29.120 give a shit right like i literally don't care if you're a secularist i can't even make an argument

03:02:33.640 for why you should do anything to be honest with you but if you're in a christian marriage yeah she

03:02:39.540 still has to submit she still has to obey like i'm sorry but that is christianity you still have to

03:02:45.020 submit you still have to obey even if you're working now if you're a secularist you want me to give you a

03:02:48.540 secular argument sure be equal be equal with that chick and do equal stuff and give her equal access

03:02:54.360 to your bank account do whatever you want to do but uh yeah that's that's not going to fly in a

03:02:58.620 christian marriage no i definitely agree because most of the time when the woman does have to put in

03:03:03.020 work in a marriage specifically biblical marriage it's usually just temporary it's not a forever thing

03:03:08.760 it's just certain circumstance we have some chats we have to get to but first we're going to play

03:03:14.380 the bow video so we're going to play bow video version one and version two uh andrew doesn't

03:03:23.240 like version two at least the second half of it but uh we're going to play that we have a couple

03:03:28.160 chats while he's getting that pulled up realistic heart says a wife being submissive is born out of

03:03:32.720 the fact that the highest form of love is a verb not in the motion a wife being submissive is born out

03:03:38.040 of the fact that the highest form of love is a verb not in the motion by the way she agrees that was in

03:03:43.580 her bio she said that your love language is doing shit for people right so shouldn't your love

03:03:49.000 language being to do shit for the man i definitely do yeah i cook i clean i don't say no to intercourse

03:03:55.620 ever what i swear to god not be disobeyed if my ex is watching if anybody who's dated me is watching

03:04:02.640 go ahead and message yeah if you're taking care of shit well that but that's also biblical but the

03:04:07.320 husband's also not supposed to deny the wife's appetite either so that's correct all right let's play

03:04:12.280 the battle video go ahead

03:04:13.580 all right this is my ex-girlfriend by the way boom huge huge bow did you see that

03:04:20.960 that was a big bow this is my apartment she's you know the bed's kind of fucked up but you know

03:04:27.200 whatever doing the laundry and dinner ready dinner ready all good to go get home from a long podcast

03:04:34.540 day to my apartment very long podcast day she's got the beer ready the noodles ready the meat ready i

03:04:40.400 scolded her about the tomatoes that's why would you just have tomatoes like that

03:04:44.640 and then you're gonna play it once more go ahead just the beginning part

03:04:50.000 and boom huge bow did you see the bow is that something you make her do like is that make her

03:04:57.140 what do you mean well i don't know like what's the what is the i don't know the backstory on this

03:05:00.960 and there might be other like viewers who don't like is that something that you require no that you

03:05:06.060 know what um that's what i've required for like you know my other girls girlfriends that i've had

03:05:13.160 singular not plural but but you know i do have to say you know the bow that one for that one came

03:05:22.000 naturally but other shit yeah you gotta instruct gotta give a bit of uh hey this is what i need

03:05:28.260 so you so what you need is for them to bow when you get home

03:05:32.300 indeed that's right fucking wild so then i take back my answer no i would not date i would not date

03:05:39.180 brian that is just why why is that that's fucking weird why is that weird it's like degrading

03:05:44.560 have you ever sucked a guy's dick on the first date uh-huh yeah we dated for two and a half years

03:05:50.680 oh only one okay yeah yeah so you'll let women so so modern women will they won't cook they won't

03:05:58.240 clean they won't do i'll do every other stop fucking interrupting holy shit fine fine they won't cook

03:06:04.460 they won't clean they won't do a totally benign innocent gesture but within 30 minutes of meeting

03:06:10.380 a guy you'll let him splunk on your face explain to me explain to me how me wanting a woman to bow

03:06:17.620 is insane but you will let a man literally come inside you on the first date okay first of all

03:06:24.620 that's such a drastic okay how is that drastic women fuck men within 30 minutes all the time you guys

03:06:32.540 fuck men immediately all the time you let them do all kinds of sexual acts so what are you talking

03:06:40.040 about because you're talking to me not women and you've done it you just admitted you've done it

03:06:44.780 yourself because i did it once when i was like 19 i don't believe this at all but go ahead

03:06:49.000 in the chat if y'all know me get in the chat um you think women don't have casual sex i think women

03:06:56.700 do i'm talking about me i would not have sex not any time recently in the last but you've had

03:07:04.240 casual 10 years of my life and also i would do every other part of that huh i would do every

03:07:11.360 other part of that you're like women women okay why not why wouldn't you bow i thought you're

03:07:15.520 submissive who said that didn't you say you were submissive yes when did i say did i yeah i but then

03:07:23.140 you if i said you're kind of like this you kind of move back and forth you're like yes i'm submissive

03:07:28.640 but also i'm not yes i am submissive i'm okay with doing the cooking and the cleaning and taking

03:07:32.940 care of everything so that you don't have to if you're working and stuff but that to me just

03:07:37.060 seems like a degree like a power trip degrading thing it doesn't seem respectful do you want a man

03:07:41.660 to propose to you yeah i've been proposed to and never i've been proposed to you want do you want

03:07:46.840 to get married again yeah yeah so you want a man to get down on one knee he doesn't have to do

03:07:51.240 that shit and i don't even want to like a wedding or anything let's go to the courthouse we don't

03:07:55.560 have to do all the dramatic okay a lot of women want that right but we're not talking about them

03:07:59.380 i okay so how's it degrading though to me it would feel degrading why because well because why do you

03:08:05.540 want them to do it what how is that relevant why why do the motivations have anything to do with

03:08:13.920 whether you feel it's degrading or not the motivations have everything to do with it okay let's assume it

03:08:20.760 was just kind of a quirky thing and he thought it was cute still degrading no but if it's like a

03:08:27.580 i guess if it's a i don't know if it's a requirement then it's not a last episode you admitted to being

03:08:33.140 into bdsm and i said i had i said i had are you not into dom sub dynamics no not in my relationships i

03:08:40.480 said i tried out some dommy shit when i was younger just experimenting and i was the dom would you let a

03:08:46.760 guy tie you up during sex yeah during sex you're not going to come home and you just be like you do

03:08:53.640 realize that when it comes to bdsm these dynamics can go beyond outside just the bedroom exactly i'm

03:08:59.260 not even saying that that's a within the purview of bdsm though sure necessarily well but in regards

03:09:05.640 to that i don't want like a bdsm dynamic and outside okay why is it degrading

03:09:11.580 the motivation i guess like let me ask you a requirement okay let me uh would you want

03:09:18.340 your boyfriend or husband to take a bullet for you no no i would rather die i don't want to have

03:09:24.760 to live with that you'll take the bullet then yeah so you're checking the noise at night yes actually i

03:09:30.220 do actually i have a video of this hang on when you're with a man yes um oh bullshit yes yes i had

03:09:39.180 men listen my mail it's on video i can prove there's a male neighbor and my male friend who

03:09:44.480 happened to be at the house and i and someone broke in and i'm the one who came out with the strap and

03:09:49.540 they were sitting there like pussies and i'm like oh my god if you want to do something you got to do

03:09:54.060 it yourself so yeah i was the one who handled everything did they have i mean did they have

03:09:58.940 straps yes it was i literally yes we're in the same house they could have yes and and actually in

03:10:05.100 the stop hanging out with progressives dude no it's the neighbor and okay but this is not your

03:10:10.060 man i'm talking about when you're there with your man in your home are you checking the noise at night

03:10:15.020 really yes because i wouldn't want him to die like i just don't believe that shit that's like

03:10:19.660 it's like up till now i have believed the things that you said but i don't think when you have a man

03:10:26.120 at home when the thing breaks downstairs you're the one who gets up and goes and checks it out that's

03:10:30.980 just insane yes i would but only because no not i would you do i have i have and it's on i have

03:10:39.080 cameras all in my house it's literally no that's a friend and a neighbor and some shit i'm talking

03:10:42.660 about your man okay if we're talking about my man i'd be even more inclined to because when i love

03:10:48.540 somebody like i love them so much i don't want to live after they're dead like that would just be so

03:10:52.300 like gut-wrenchingly grief inducing like very genuinely i would probably rather be the one

03:10:59.740 i mean that dashira you go check out the noises at night yeah okay and he lets you together and

03:11:06.520 they they let you they're like okay yeah you know what that actually does sound like maybe you should

03:11:10.880 let her get a bite with the bow because if there's a noise at night you just go oh i'm going back to

03:11:14.380 sleep go check it i hope you don't die so i think we should check it out yeah skip the bow and she

03:11:18.560 checks out all noises i think that's a good trade i'll accept the trade i'll accept the trade uh wait

03:11:23.980 okay really quick on that though uh can we pull up the thing that i sent in the private chat

03:11:28.860 uh oh sorry i didn't mean to click off that okay am i the asshole for considering breaking up with

03:11:34.320 me my fiancee because he ran away when we were being attacked uh scroll down just a bit so uh my

03:11:41.240 fiancee it's a the fiancee's 24 male and i am a 24 female have been dating for six years he proposed to

03:11:48.600 me a few months ago which was the happiest moment of my life we said our wedding date for this december

03:11:53.360 blah blah oh my god prattle okay however after what happened last night i'm seriously considering

03:11:58.260 breaking up with my fiancee and i'm unsure if i'm an asshole my fiancee my brother and i were all

03:12:03.860 walking back to our car wrap the ruge donated 69 dollars oh 10 cents number one no no no stfu please

03:12:12.680 okay thank you rachel you're too old to be talking shit stop being a pick me

03:12:15.900 anyway that's not rachel i know but i see oh in the super chats

03:12:20.620 oh yeah pull that one up really quick uh she was a stripper but a polite bow to a man

03:12:27.940 who loves her is degrading lol we know why she is divorced have you been picked yet in your old age

03:12:33.140 you wait have you been picked yet in your old look at her have you been picked yet in your old age

03:12:38.800 no okay oh my god i wish andrew was here right now this is andrew's wife oh fuck

03:12:45.000 so i guess she has been picked you have three different baby daddies though right

03:12:49.180 bruh okay well bruh don't you know to be fair aren't you like an ex-sex worker

03:12:57.600 no it was never like outside like did i fuck for money no

03:13:01.220 hand to god no ex-stripper you dance on only fans and i also only danced on stage like topless

03:13:08.380 did you do bg content no you didn't do any bg content on your the only content i ever did was

03:13:13.980 with a boyfriend she wasn't a prostitute you were

03:13:16.900 the only content that i did was with my boyfriend but mostly just solo posts

03:13:23.320 also even if rachel was a pick me she got picked by andrew who's a great guy i've been picked too

03:13:31.160 what the fuck does me being a stripper have to do with bowing i don't get this whole pick me thing

03:13:36.240 don't you like there's this don't you want to be picked

03:13:40.380 i mean don't doesn't everybody want to be picked okay i don't know if you're introverted it's not a

03:13:47.060 necessity thank you rachel rude yeah it's degrading it is degrading okay so fuck my fiancee my brother

03:13:54.820 and i were all walking back to our car from dinner at a nice restaurant the car was parked pretty far

03:14:00.480 away as the place was packed so we had to walk quite some distance it was late at night as we were

03:14:04.260 walking a person in a bike uh came to the side of us and stopped us and demanded we give everything

03:14:10.160 we had my fiancee panicked and just ran away but my brother after talking to the man for a couple

03:14:15.080 minutes just the attacked just attacked the man long story short my brother beat him up the man had

03:14:21.040 no weapon it was just a fake gun uh i called my fiancee after that and told him everything was fine and

03:14:26.120 we would pick him up my fiancee still seemed a bit shaken but i explained to him everything was all right

03:14:30.280 and my fiancee thanked my brother a lot however i just felt extremely weird and sort of disappointed

03:14:35.040 that my fiancee just ran away i understand it was natural instinct but seeing my brother take the

03:14:39.960 attacker down in comparison to my fiancee just running away i just feel like i lost a lot of love for my

03:14:44.760 fiancee after last night i spoke with my brother this morning to get his opinion he said i should

03:14:48.740 still give my fiancee a chance fiancee loves me and what happened last night is not a normal occurrence

03:14:53.620 however i told him i just got a massive ick and i don't think this ick will ever go away scroll down

03:14:59.860 a little bit uh oh well so uh scroll up sorry there's an update you're gonna click on the

03:15:07.860 update link to update that one okay oh well okay in any case uh she two days later calls off the

03:15:16.000 wedding okay so this is this is a phenomenon where if women see their men being cowards or not being

03:15:23.460 prepared to defend them a lot of women don't give their men a pass in that situation and i i agree

03:15:29.840 like related to the bullet question no right i would want my partner to go downstairs but i'm

03:15:36.080 just saying like if it's like my husband yeah i'm gonna i would rather die for him but but yeah i'm

03:15:40.680 also gonna think he's a pussy if he doesn't get up and go towards it would you date a pussy

03:15:44.220 kind of double standard if we're already married like okay would you would you date a pussy without

03:15:49.800 your partner would you date a pussy are you attracted to pussies no and that's why i wouldn't date the

03:15:53.940 people at the house however i'm just saying if i'm already married to you i would i would die for

03:15:58.860 you yes but i will say i was at and i don't ever go out but we went out the other night and um there

03:16:04.940 was like a big fight that happened at this bar and like the ex automatically like pushed me behind him

03:16:09.600 and it was so hot so i get it i get it oh my god i'm not saying there's i'm not disputing you should

03:16:15.560 have jumped in front of him and been like yeah why didn't you well because you've gotten in your

03:16:19.180 best irish first of all i didn't know what the fuck was going on it took me a second but and by

03:16:22.820 that time there's like seven people on it so i think it is attractive i think a man should want

03:16:26.660 to but me personally if i'm already in the relationship and i love you like i really love

03:16:31.560 you i don't want you to die like yeah we nobody's disputing that part nobody's disputing that you would

03:16:39.420 have a preference that you continued with your dude but this is now an impossible standard so the

03:16:45.940 the standard is now uh yeah you know i would prefer to go do it but if i do you're now so

03:16:51.940 demasculated that i'm unattracted to you no no i wouldn't be demasculated like at that point i'd be

03:16:57.660 dead in this scenario well first of all maybe not maybe maybe you survive the encounter i would no

03:17:03.920 no if it's like a serious situation like if it's just a fight or something i want them to protect me

03:17:07.520 i would want them to want to protect no there's a noise at night you go down you got your strap right

03:17:11.220 you're all strapped up you go down there you handle business i'm not saying he shouldn't come

03:17:14.900 with me i'm just saying if it came down to it and i noticed dude was about to pull a trigger i

03:17:18.660 probably would jump in front of it leaving your leaving your kids behind and with someone that

03:17:25.180 i trust yeah here read this rachel i had a response for you okay i mean i'll debate anybody and i'm not

03:17:32.080 afraid to lose but the comment is about stripping and like not wanting to bow to a partner like being

03:17:39.420 a stripper does not make you submissive if anything you're kind of like doming every dude in the room

03:17:43.840 and they're simping for you and giving you money because you're pretty so it would totally correlate

03:17:49.000 to me not wanting to bow to a man if anything no it's just a form of prostitution it's a form of

03:17:54.440 submission you're accepting monetary gain to give them whatever it is that they want it's literally

03:17:59.620 the ultimate form of submission in fact and you'll do it you'll do it just for monetary gain i think

03:18:05.600 it's submissive that you want to see titty so i have to i have to allow the rest of the panel in here

03:18:10.180 okay so uh the article that we just read your response to that would what would you do if

03:18:16.360 you're in the woman's situation um i would probably get the ick too um but i don't know i don't think

03:18:25.680 that's oh okay yo stay safe yo stay safe thank you for the big raid man i hope you had a good stream

03:18:33.960 really appreciate it by the way stay safe i saw uh that video that you did where you set up this uh

03:18:40.300 trump rally in world of warcraft i watched that i think it was either today or yesterday that was

03:18:45.880 quite funny and i want to see it uh yeah he didn't he he it was alliance or horde though alliance yeah

03:18:52.360 well then but but we all know it would be horde who would set up a trump rally

03:18:55.880 i don't know that i mean alliance

03:18:59.960 you know interesting he does play i agree with that i like well yeah it has to be that word

03:19:06.920 classic or retail retail and classic okay i'm playing since 08 so both both are good

03:19:15.260 dope um yo stay safe thank you very much for the raid once again uh just really quick question for

03:19:21.660 the entire panel uh would you guys date a man who played a female gnome warlock with pink hair

03:19:32.000 sure yeah yeah lower the point yes no no i don't know what any of that means

03:19:42.580 video game character video game stuff yo stay safe thank you for the raid man really appreciate it

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03:20:33.700 not mean to ah what the fuck sorry i didn't i fat fingered that scuffed here and then that's like

03:20:40.760 uh that's me that's my what the fuck was that shit i fucked up that was my bad um all right like the

03:20:51.420 video guys tts is 200 uh we were going around the table the reaction to the article i think we you were

03:20:59.240 oh yeah um i would probably get the ick just because i i like the traditional values

03:21:05.700 and gender roles yes okay i would be so disappointed but with my partner but personally i wouldn't leave

03:21:15.420 him because i just chalk it up to wow it was a weak moment what about you uh i would have gotten the

03:21:24.580 ick at the fact that it took him six years to propose well that's not really um uh material to

03:21:34.740 the question that i'm asking but and yes also i appreciate the extraneous opinion on that um also

03:21:41.740 yes okay running away yes definitely would leave someone like that because if they can't defend you

03:21:47.140 then they can't defend your family i mean isn't that kind of a man's place too yeah i agree with what

03:21:53.720 she said i think also marriage is a lifelong commitment so if we were just engaged to that

03:21:58.020 point and i was having second thoughts i would reconsider and then we do need to go back to the

03:22:03.920 bow video you were giving your reaction you thought it was degrading you saw the bow you saw the bow video

03:22:12.040 would you bow for your man your thoughts on um i mean

03:22:17.960 i i mean i would because like i think like that's just like i don't know like i i would do it but

03:22:26.380 like i don't think that's a normal thing in a relationship okay all right do you think it's a

03:22:33.200 normal thing in a relationship to have only fans no not at all oh but you have only fans yeah oh okay

03:22:39.260 just checking what about you would you do a bow for your boyfriend for mine yeah but nobody else

03:22:46.340 if anybody else asked me to do that i would be completely i turned off well like so you guys

03:22:51.960 broke up and then you started dating this new guy you guys been together for three months

03:22:56.200 he's like hit when you down to hit the bow or you wouldn't do it depends on the person

03:23:01.460 what do you mean like depends on if i dating them you like them i assume yeah if i feel like

03:23:09.880 bowing i guess or what what do you mean like but so would you feel like bound for my man yes

03:23:18.700 for nobody else no okay so if you broke up with your current guy and you were dating a new guy for

03:23:23.100 three months the answer is yes you would bow for him probably not wait okay one more time just we

03:23:30.440 missed it probably not no six months a year maybe like a year and a half i don't know

03:23:37.780 uh that's a year and a half okay so if the guy if a guy were to do you want a guy to be a provider

03:23:46.140 um yeah okay so if he was like well i'm gonna wait a year and a half to provide for you and pay

03:23:53.220 for dates are you would you date a guy like that maybe because after a year and a half you start to

03:23:58.620 see people's flaws more you got you see see more of like the grosser things that they do and

03:24:04.360 i mean okay so let me ask you a question um do you want a guy to pay a guy asked you out on the

03:24:11.140 first date you want him to pay for the first date that's unrealistic for a guy to pay for the first

03:24:15.520 date i mean if he's going on dates with a bunch of different people how many dates is he paying for

03:24:19.120 so i would understand him not paying but i think anybody would want to be uh paid for even

03:24:25.520 like i mean would you want to be paid for uh by anybody as a treat you know get a really nice meal

03:24:33.140 sure yeah but there are different gender expectations on on men and women um

03:24:42.740 but so my understanding though here is you're if you went on a date with a guy and he asked for the

03:24:49.700 date and he the waiter comes and he says two two checks no problem yeah no no problem i guess

03:24:58.500 they're they're that's fine because i i do believe that that's your position but a lot of women would

03:25:04.560 have an issue with that they would say for example there wouldn't be a second date if a man didn't pay

03:25:10.060 for the first but maybe that's not not every woman has that standard i just want to confirm that

03:25:16.040 that is if there's chemistry and you guys can both feel the chemistry right away sometimes people

03:25:20.580 need to take time you know to get uh feelings for each other but i'm i'm saying like if well let's

03:25:26.300 assume there's i'm assuming even if there was no chemistry whether he paid or didn't would be

03:25:33.040 irrelevant right i don't think so i think that if there's chemistry well now we're having a set now

03:25:39.700 we're having a separate conversation of would you have a second date with a man if there was a lack

03:25:44.580 of chemistry no so i would i wouldn't be i would be fine paying and just leaving you know because

03:25:50.180 okay there's no chemistry you want to get out of track but yeah so just to confirm

03:25:56.180 you got chemistry with this guy but he says two checks are you okay with that

03:26:03.320 um i guess so yeah but you'd prefer not to why the hesitation i'm confused

03:26:12.200 because i want to be provided for like deep down you know but i also want to provide in my own ways

03:26:17.520 uh like at home for somebody i want to be able to take care of somebody too you know but okay so

03:26:24.120 i'm getting a little ambiguity here so i'm not sure because i'm not dating right now

03:26:29.680 but well yeah but i'm trying to put you in the hypothetical so yeah if you were dating

03:26:35.300 and the guy said two checks would that be a negative mark would it be a total deal breaker

03:26:43.280 no like if there was chemistry it would not be a deal breaker but if would it be sorry go ahead no

03:26:48.960 wait what no go ahead you're fine it wouldn't be a deal breaker if there was chemistry but i would i

03:26:54.040 would also be um like i would wonder if he was interested too at the same time or you know i just

03:27:01.900 he tells you he's interested but he's a 50 50 guy 50 50 oh 50 50 guy yeah that's why he's asking

03:27:08.140 for two checks i might try a few more dates out and he's going to remain 50 50 for the entirety

03:27:14.040 and duration of your relationship

03:27:16.280 not so much yeah not well can you actually tell us what your answer is or yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't

03:27:26.500 be so um excited probably wouldn't do it probably not he said i won't be a provider until a year and

03:27:37.640 a half into our relationship and you bow maybe there's other parts of the relationship that we

03:27:45.260 want to explore though first besides you mean like sex and getting you pregnant within the first week

03:27:50.280 that was different i for him it wasn't the first week yeah i mean i'm all the people i had dated

03:27:57.780 before before then i had waited quite a while like a few months but when you know you know

03:28:03.880 okay uh you're would you do the bow uh if we've been dating for a little while yeah probably

03:28:10.560 if you've been dating for a little while probably it wouldn't be like i wouldn't just

03:28:17.420 do it right away okay somebody i just met

03:28:20.600 okay and then if a guy didn't want to pay for the first date right away is that okay no

03:28:27.720 it's not okay so how long after dating would you have to do the bow

03:28:34.300 um i guess once it's if it's once it's been made exclusive

03:28:40.500 after exclusivity okay uh your reaction to the bow video would you do it for a man

03:28:49.620 i would rather split a mortgage than bow

03:28:55.180 you'd rather i'd rather split the cost of a mortgage or a rent than bow i'll get the plates

03:29:03.960 i'll come back there and deal with it just a little uh a little bit of feminism in there is there

03:29:07.820 it's not feminism to me this is actually just a matter of mutual respect and i don't think that

03:29:13.820 a bow is necessary i think there are other ways of showing respect and admiration for your partner

03:29:18.500 but you would rather rather go and get a job and split the mortgage rather than give a submissive

03:29:29.240 gesture well i already have a job so yeah well i know you already do continue let us assume you

03:29:35.240 didn't you would still rather go get one and get a mortgage rather than show a single submissive

03:29:40.840 gesture well that's not how the question was posed because but that's what it is there could be other

03:29:46.560 submissive gestures that aren't bowing well what we're not in the 1800s of medieval times i mean

03:29:52.840 would you curtsy everything's relative to the time would you curtsy curtsy is different than

03:29:59.580 would you curtsy maybe because that's feminine bow is like that was like or kneeling is what you do

03:30:06.340 for like the kings or god well i think there's plenty of women who kneel and they think it's

03:30:11.240 plenty feminine just saying well i think there's uh i think that there's a large quantity of them i

03:30:18.640 would say in fact i would even go so far as to say that the motion for this particular activity is

03:30:25.160 very um bowish isn't it it's very um well i can just do that very bowing so just saying well i

03:30:32.680 don't understand how you just do that but can't show the submission sign right it's so weird to me

03:30:37.500 but oh my god are you really i think there's other forms of submission in responding to questions and

03:30:43.520 no i don't want the bow i want the curtsy i think that's twice as degrading i think it's twice as

03:30:50.020 degrading no no no that's literally that's saying not only that you're feminine but you're

03:30:54.920 superstition is below me the bow is just mutual respect men bow to each other all the time

03:30:59.800 it seems a little blasphemous to me blasphemy yeah it seems a little fucking weird what's

03:31:04.840 blasphemous about bowing i'm not bowing to anybody but god really and and uh just just want to make

03:31:11.840 sure because you like that biblical marriage thing right hey i will marry an atheist so that

03:31:16.940 i just make the arguments based off of because i'm talking to you and i know that you're religious

03:31:24.480 and i am too but i'm like a new i'm like a baby christian but so that that doesn't factor into

03:31:31.480 every conversation that i have ever so you don't follow christian ethics yes okay and what's the

03:31:36.540 entailment of christian ethics you want me to like list the oh i just want to know if you're following

03:31:42.540 if you're following christian ethics then you're following the teachings of jesus christ and his

03:31:47.760 apostles and the teachings of the original church of jesus right okay is that correct i mean i don't

03:31:54.340 i don't keep the sabbath on on saturday you know yeah i do sure is he about to hit us is he about to

03:32:02.720 hit us what what yes i'm just just wondering if you follow christian ethics or not but if because if

03:32:10.940 you do the the idea here is you are supposed to obey alvin sam donated twenty dollars they have a

03:32:18.500 problem buying but wants men to pull chairs out and hold where did you get that yeah yeah i know

03:32:23.520 i'm not getting into the chivalry thing but just on this you're supposed to obey your husband as you

03:32:28.340 would unto the lord right yeah but he wouldn't be my husband because he he wanted you to bow

03:32:33.180 also like why do you have to cuss when you're talking to me all the time like you can talk to me

03:32:37.960 like a human i didn't even cuss no not you no no the conversation is about brian in the context of

03:32:43.980 like this all started with the would you date him and i said no because of the bow thing but that's

03:32:48.240 reflective of other shit like the why are you bitching about brian who cares i'm talking all of

03:32:52.820 this is about okay just in general yeah i'm asking you a question okay like would i marry you if you

03:32:58.220 asked me to bow for you yeah what what's the problem with the bow exactly thank you thank you it's

03:33:03.340 i it's degrading what's the degradation exactly because what it's showing that you're not equal

03:33:10.160 right what yeah yeah it's a sign of submission right but you you're also like two parts of one

03:33:19.560 hole in christianity and you have a head the head and you're submissive the body the body's

03:33:27.440 submissive to the head but why you can be submissive oh thank you you can be submissive

03:33:32.580 without bowing i'm not understanding like what the fuck is the motivation i actually like really

03:33:36.660 want to know is it a kink thing because he wants to see you do it it's a kink thing again we're back

03:33:42.480 we're back to this leadership model of sure you can lead when i want you to i guess i just wouldn't

03:33:47.260 no no i guess i just wouldn't be attracted to somebody like that to begin with who wanted you to

03:33:51.340 wow yeah yeah just i'm glad somebody else not in that context like jesus christ god well i mean

03:34:00.880 it's just uh no i would even maybe do it sexually like i would maybe even role play i'm not fucking

03:34:05.400 it's a whole lot of it's just a whole lot of feminism like the whole idea is just any form of

03:34:11.120 submission is so heavily resisted it's just so heavily resisted but it's like nobody has any good

03:34:18.120 reasons for why it's heavily resisted other than they just don't like it spiral donated twenty

03:34:22.600 dollars bow down before the one you serve you're going to get what you deserve bow down before the

03:34:28.680 one you serve you're going to get what you deserve sincerely johnny spiral hi andrew hi john

03:34:35.340 dylan joe donated twenty dollars imagine refusing to shake someone's hand

03:34:41.360 that's pretty funny and true what didn't okay this is like off topic but didn't some girl like

03:34:51.800 shake her ass in someone's face on this podcast because you didn't shake her hand or something

03:34:55.980 or because what because yeah that's that's what i was telling you about earlier what

03:35:00.800 wait you asked her to shake her hand tts is uh 20 guys she wanted a high five or something and i

03:35:09.920 refused so just while the for the little pizza roast section my face it's very very disgusting

03:35:15.820 super disrespectful twenty dollar tts guys while we do the pizza roast intermission twenty dollar tts if

03:35:24.320 you guys want um and then we'll i know there's some chats that we're waiting on what we'll get we'll

03:35:30.920 get those done also guys i i got a hot dog too did you get a burrito no burrito one day kennedy's

03:35:41.180 convertible donated twenty dollars men are the head in a christian relationship women should submit

03:35:48.000 so is it a kink thing for you a what is it a kink thing what do you mean or is it like i don't know

03:36:05.180 is it to respect thing or is it just like a humorous thing is it a bit no bowing but donated

03:36:12.760 nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents but we have to address why is sexual submission fine

03:36:19.480 but submission in a regular relationship isn't because it's a moment not the overall dynamic

03:36:26.640 about takes three seconds right but it reflects an overall dynamic like and also like i don't really

03:36:33.360 care about sexually submitting that's like if it's a kink thing and we're about to hook up

03:36:39.980 you know whatever i'm experimental but um outcast donated twenty dollars a man walks into a bar he

03:36:49.840 says who wants to have sex with me a woman walks into a bar full of men and says who wants to have

03:36:56.100 sex with me who do you think get the best results blazing dunes donated twenty dollars the woman gets

03:37:03.620 the best rating looks three five get some some personal fitness trainer three three four five

03:37:10.320 andrew six brian four how many slices did you eat bts seat one can't handle the truth

03:37:17.560 just gerald donated twenty dollars a stripper gets nude for strangers and lets them put money in their

03:37:26.400 underwear with unwashed hands but the bow is degrading that life wasn't

03:37:31.660 yo gerald thank you man roth on the score psa donated twenty dollars

03:37:37.220 no mage i don't see pineapple on the pizza no mage thing to do

03:37:41.760 hey uh you know

03:37:45.300 fortunately costo doesn't have

03:37:49.440 pineapple pizza

03:37:51.960 i gotta be respectful towards andrew you know

03:37:56.200 oh wait fuck

03:38:00.380 lol paladins i gotta pull these out before they disappear

03:38:02.780 my bad bro

03:38:05.340 b whatever happened to that daily call a guest that no showed a couple weeks ago

03:38:10.600 can we not get a name drop on a flaky person since you didn't before

03:38:14.880 good luck on the frivolous and vexatious lawsuit

03:38:18.000 yo thank you love paladins um i think you mean daily wire

03:38:21.640 uh

03:38:23.560 oh dr howie

03:38:28.520 why does helen keller blank with one hand so she can moan with the other enjoy the pizza you guys are doing great work

03:38:34.100 thank you thank you thank you appreciate it

03:38:36.760 lol paladins

03:38:38.580 i might have missed one of yours man i'm sorry

03:38:40.740 keep telling yourself that

03:38:42.320 number five but no man is intimidated by you

03:38:45.520 your personality is off-putting

03:38:47.560 you're indoctrinated and don't even realize it

03:38:50.660 you act slash argue slash behave like a man

03:38:53.780 do you want a response

03:38:55.060 lol paladins misread my statement

03:38:58.020 rachel wilson donated twenty dollars

03:39:00.560 in traditional churches we bow and kiss the priests

03:39:03.940 hand respect for hierarchy is not blasphemy

03:39:07.420 but grinding for any stranger's boner is

03:39:10.600 it's sinful it's not blasphemy by definition

03:39:13.440 andrew's ashtray donated twenty dollars

03:39:16.000 we need some merch with brian's face

03:39:18.760 stop effing interrupting and kindly speak into the effing mic also can confirm chair one gives phenomenal throat

03:39:25.500 no gag reflex in sight

03:39:27.280 alicia phillips donated twenty dollars

03:39:31.080 feminism must die

03:39:33.020 bow to your man

03:39:34.560 what

03:39:39.740 hey underscore you donated twenty dollars

03:39:46.340 andrew can you speak to the biblical responsibilities of the christian husband and father as head of household beyond working full time

03:39:55.280 daryl underscore frank castle five hundred and twelve donated twenty dollars

03:40:03.660 so basically chair one is saying she'll bow down if you're cck s out

03:40:09.320 i can take you get that far

03:40:10.920 panos donated twenty dollars

03:40:16.200 asian people vote to each other all the time

03:40:19.280 i guess they degrade themselves daily

03:40:21.600 is that what it was

03:40:25.320 do they degrade do asian people degrade themselves

03:40:29.000 trish donated fifty dollars

03:40:30.880 a woman walks into a bar and says brian check your messages

03:40:35.140 um i think the cultural relevance matters

03:40:41.900 i'm not asian

03:40:43.300 i don't live in asia

03:40:44.080 tiberius donated twenty dollars

03:40:46.140 none of these women are traditional because andrew was the last one to receive his pizza

03:40:51.080 that's true

03:40:56.080 that is true

03:40:56.960 rude

03:40:57.560 very rude

03:40:58.360 daniel nosseri donated twenty dollars

03:41:01.500 stop eating into the damn microphone

03:41:03.920 oh my bad

03:41:04.360 it sounds like you're all sucking on a d

03:41:06.620 the irony is that this single stripper mom will let you do anything to her

03:41:10.880 but only if you submit to her

03:41:12.800 kennedy's convertible donated twenty dollars

03:41:16.720 hey brain

03:41:17.940 i can't wait to see you eat that hot dog

03:41:20.920 nice and slow for me big boy

03:41:23.300 what the fuck

03:41:24.320 to torius credit she did ask while we were back there

03:41:28.120 if she could help out

03:41:29.120 raven is back donated nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents

03:41:32.900 my raven haired lady with a nice peach has returned

03:41:36.360 one of the best guests on the show ever

03:41:39.100 you got the brains and booty

03:41:41.120 smile fantastic back and forth when you're around

03:41:44.740 can you read it

03:41:49.720 she a three zero four no money no mo

03:41:53.840 i don't know you got

03:41:55.760 got you in the hole still sucking out more max out i don't know what the fuck

03:42:01.460 that was

03:42:02.680 i guess it was a song lyric

03:42:04.800 no idea

03:42:05.640 thank you johnny

03:42:06.560 thank you johnny

03:42:07.120 i don't even know what that's from

03:42:21.180 bucky last donated twenty one dollars

03:42:23.780 brian your fat belly won't get smaller from eating the pizza

03:42:28.160 stop being a fatty and get on the stair master

03:42:31.100 that's a good idea

03:42:31.900 that's a smart man bucky

03:42:36.400 daryl underscore frank castle five hundred and twelve donated twenty dollars

03:42:41.220 can you imagine chair five trying to talk to you while having a sex with that deep voice

03:42:46.680 no wonder she's single

03:42:48.800 she turned into the man she wanted and couldn't get

03:42:51.960 what the fuck

03:42:52.280 i bet you that guy's not even with anyone

03:42:55.060 help me help me

03:42:58.000 don't let him eat another weenie

03:43:00.100 oh my god

03:43:02.540 listen i support costco okay

03:43:05.500 thank you brian's chair

03:43:07.840 like that costco family

03:43:09.100 framework engineer donated twenty dollars

03:43:11.840 imagine refusing to bow because it's humiliating when your body is available for 3.99 on only fans

03:43:19.300 andrew getting his dinner paid for by a man in california again

03:43:23.240 i don't have only fans

03:43:25.440 yep he's gonna be mad

03:43:26.640 roth underscore psa donated twenty dollars

03:43:30.240 nipple piercings can be used as a slingshot to take out an intruder but you have to be accurate aim for the eye

03:43:36.900 that's a good advice never thought of him as weapons before

03:43:39.540 thank you roth

03:43:40.440 do you run the band

03:43:42.580 mr bibbington donated twenty dollars

03:43:44.780 watching this girl tear her pizza to eat is far more degrading than a bone

03:43:49.480 you tore your fucking pizza

03:43:50.580 yeah she did she tore charts

03:43:51.580 i did say i have a touch of the tism to be fair

03:43:53.780 unacceptable unacceptable

03:43:56.780 unacceptable

03:43:57.480 an idiot

03:43:59.580 what about sexual submission to the state

03:44:01.460 from each accord to their ability to each accord thing to need

03:44:04.540 what's wrong with a two baby ivf conscription for

03:44:07.980 with those with the ability to fuck communism

03:44:11.360 okay

03:44:12.520 blue cake donated twenty dollars

03:44:14.660 chair one literally said she did boy girl content on only fans

03:44:18.800 and then tried to say she wasn't a prostitute or pick me

03:44:21.960 you have sex on camera so old men can give you money

03:44:25.300 you are the ultimate pick me

03:44:27.140 used to a long time ago

03:44:28.500 dylan joe donated twenty dollars

03:44:30.380 ephesians 5 22 to 24

03:44:33.680 a luscious young strumpet named troll has a crotch that is many a man's goal

03:44:38.500 most clients go crack side

03:44:40.780 though some prefer back side

03:44:42.580 she charges the same either hole

03:44:44.720 damn

03:44:45.220 costco pizza donated twenty dollars

03:44:49.060 how many feminists does it take to fix the plumbing

03:44:52.240 three

03:44:53.120 one to call a man to do it

03:44:55.220 and two to complain about how he's oppressing them

03:44:58.240 true

03:44:59.900 sons of liberty donated twenty dollars

03:45:03.680 thank you man

03:45:04.280 b

03:45:04.660 use two hands on that whiner

03:45:06.920 whiner

03:45:07.880 got the hot dog technique on it

03:45:13.460 hxcxtr donated twenty dollars

03:45:19.340 brian

03:45:20.240 it would have been hilarious if andrew was the only one who got a hawaiian pizza

03:45:24.720 that's such a great idea

03:45:26.460 that would be the last

03:45:28.440 that would be the last time i was on whatever

03:45:31.080 term i at ops for donated twenty dollars

03:45:34.260 proverbs twenty one nine

03:45:36.200 it is better to live in a corner of the house top than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife

03:45:40.920 share one learn more christian ethics and become a good wife read your bible submit

03:45:46.120 blazing dunes donated twenty dollars

03:45:49.800 brian

03:45:50.720 want to make money fast burrito roast would make fast money

03:45:55.340 also remember when you debate the master you will always lose

03:45:59.460 andrew always has the high ground

03:46:02.020 yes star wars ref

03:46:04.040 johnny spiral donated twenty dollars

03:46:08.180 thank you johnny

03:46:08.660 hey brain

03:46:09.500 ask these girls why they think it's so degrading to want to submit and take care of their men

03:46:14.900 yet the man is expected to provide financially and provide a sense of security

03:46:19.920 ray boruji donated twenty dollars

03:46:23.980 do it

03:46:24.940 order sixty six

03:46:26.600 do it

03:46:27.520 execute order sixty six

03:46:30.780 is that like a pineapple pizza or what is that

03:46:35.520 you don't know star wars warcraft nerd

03:46:38.260 brian

03:46:39.860 i ordered your whatever hoodie and it was expected september twenty fourth

03:46:44.280 stop eating eating burritos and fulfill my order

03:46:47.860 you fat fuck

03:46:49.260 god they're awful

03:46:51.680 yeah it's um our march is through this company called spring

03:46:55.100 they handle all the fulfillment we don't do it

03:46:58.520 if um

03:46:59.780 i don't know if i've already been talking to you

03:47:04.180 sorry

03:47:04.540 mouthful

03:47:06.040 pizza

03:47:06.760 if you don't receive your order by monday of next week

03:47:11.220 email me or dm me

03:47:13.280 i'll get on their case

03:47:14.940 um

03:47:15.580 i don't know if there's there's been some issues with their shipping recently so

03:47:18.900 i'll take care of it

03:47:20.980 um

03:47:21.460 there's some more coming through

03:47:23.260 king blackout donated twenty dollars

03:47:27.300 wow

03:47:28.260 brian

03:47:28.980 wow

03:47:30.000 pizza and hot dogs

03:47:31.860 be careful the burrito's going to get jealous

03:47:34.660 where do you hold your whiner with one hand but two hands with a burrito's

03:47:39.120 degen

03:47:40.480 lucas donated fifty dollars

03:47:43.840 so

03:47:44.600 i work twelve to fourteen hours a day

03:47:47.300 am a partner at a huge nyc law firm

03:47:50.320 make seven figures per year

03:47:52.080 just imagine me having to come home to a willful

03:47:54.920 quarrelsome woman like jay one

03:47:57.160 thank god for my gen x wife

03:47:59.800 hey so lucas

03:48:00.940 i don't

03:48:01.240 you know i got some

03:48:02.440 some legal things going on

03:48:04.020 if you wanna

03:48:04.500 you know if you wanna

03:48:06.340 do a little pro bono work

03:48:08.980 you know what i mean

03:48:09.620 new york city

03:48:11.160 big law firm

03:48:11.960 what kind of law

03:48:13.400 okay

03:48:13.820 thank you man

03:48:14.620 north alberta kid

03:48:16.340 donated twenty dollars

03:48:17.800 i hear there is a correlation

03:48:19.760 between deep voices

03:48:21.020 and big labios

03:48:21.960 brian

03:48:23.120 chair one is sexy and smart

03:48:25.460 she is the devil

03:48:26.800 she is evil

03:48:28.000 and will de-sit

03:48:28.800 the power of christ

03:48:30.460 compels you

03:48:31.520 daniel nosary

03:48:34.160 donated twenty dollars

03:48:35.660 sent a deep voice

03:48:37.280 i was once in thailand

03:48:38.900 and was convinced

03:48:39.860 the woman i was enjoying my time

03:48:42.020 which was indeed a woman

03:48:43.220 boy was i in for a surprise

03:48:45.320 you think i haven't heard

03:48:46.800 that i have a deep voice

03:48:47.820 i don't care

03:48:48.840 donated twenty dollars

03:48:50.180 all the lady apes

03:48:51.640 ran from king kong

03:48:52.720 for his dong

03:48:53.300 was unspeakably long

03:48:54.580 but a friendly giraffe

03:48:55.840 quaffed his yard and a half

03:48:57.340 and ecstatically burst into song

03:48:59.620 zxeringix donated twenty dollars

03:49:05.620 girl in blue

03:49:06.880 message me single dad of two

03:49:08.980 homeowner

03:49:09.860 small business owner

03:49:11.420 no need to bow

03:49:12.700 but if you and the kids

03:49:13.680 were waiting by the door

03:49:14.820 after work would be gold

03:49:16.480 that one guy donated twenty dollars

03:49:20.240 currently going through

03:49:22.040 and told my mom about your take

03:49:24.000 andrew about women

03:49:25.080 coming to the church

03:49:26.120 and she said that's bs

03:49:27.380 and legit the next class

03:49:28.760 a young girl said

03:49:29.900 she was rebellious

03:49:30.960 when she was young

03:49:32.040 daryl underscore frank castle

03:49:35.440 five hundred and twelve

03:49:36.840 donated twenty dollars

03:49:38.340 chair two is definitely

03:49:39.920 voting for carmala

03:49:41.340 chair six looks like

03:49:42.860 her husband dressed her

03:49:44.060 with his cowboy fit

03:49:45.260 chair five

03:49:46.280 i've been married

03:49:47.220 eighteen years

03:49:48.000 three kids

03:49:48.880 and sole provider

03:49:49.840 in my house

03:49:50.720 nice try though

03:49:52.220 uh i paused them temporarily

03:49:55.160 so we're gonna go back

03:49:57.120 to the show

03:49:57.560 um

03:49:58.420 i'll allow a few more

03:50:00.140 to trickle through

03:50:01.400 but we're gonna

03:50:02.080 go back to uh

03:50:04.300 put that got dog

03:50:05.560 into the bum

03:50:06.220 at least for a bit

03:50:06.440 we'll go back to

03:50:07.080 squirt a little mustard on it

03:50:08.360 what the fuck

03:50:08.920 put in your mouth

03:50:09.680 nice and slow

03:50:10.460 so juicy

03:50:11.640 so juicy

03:50:12.820 so big

03:50:12.840 that's crazy

03:50:13.420 so red

03:50:13.940 that's crazy

03:50:14.600 such a good doggy

03:50:15.580 good little doggy

03:50:16.740 what the

03:50:17.160 what the fuck

03:50:20.860 incoming call

03:50:21.820 for desmond

03:50:22.380 donated twenty dollars

03:50:23.860 my sprinkler

03:50:25.040 goes like this

03:50:26.040 and comes back

03:50:32.640 like this

03:50:33.300 what happened

03:50:35.700 to maddie

03:50:36.640 lincoln's box

03:50:38.880 seats donated

03:50:39.780 twenty dollars

03:50:40.800 brian swallow

03:50:42.100 your food

03:50:42.660 tons of fun

03:50:43.580 i can hear

03:50:44.660 you getting

03:50:45.240 fatter

03:50:45.700 you three zero

03:50:47.020 four would literally

03:50:47.980 suck dong from the

03:50:49.000 back rather than

03:50:49.900 hitting the bow

03:50:50.680 shame

03:50:51.640 shame

03:50:52.720 shame

03:50:53.820 thank you lincoln

03:50:55.900 donated twenty dollars

03:50:57.320 yeah thank you king

03:50:58.000 to the linebacker

03:50:58.980 with the blonde wig

03:50:59.840 in the back

03:51:00.420 please say the water

03:51:01.880 is turning the frogs

03:51:03.140 game

03:51:03.520 do it

03:51:04.700 wait do it

03:51:05.700 absolutely not

03:51:06.460 oh

03:51:07.380 she doesn't know

03:51:08.020 the original reference

03:51:09.020 an alex jones reference

03:51:10.600 yeah i know

03:51:11.060 but she doesn't see it

03:51:11.960 it's turning the

03:51:11.980 frogs

03:51:13.420 wicked wally

03:51:15.440 donated twenty dollars

03:51:16.820 guys guys

03:51:17.480 well andrew you got

03:51:18.480 on air

03:51:18.840 i'll let them come in

03:51:19.660 but we gotta move on

03:51:21.000 we gotta move on

03:51:21.820 please

03:51:22.180 we gotta move on

03:51:23.000 from texas who drives

03:51:24.220 men insane

03:51:25.020 now you know

03:51:26.260 how it feels

03:51:27.260 we all take the l

03:51:28.920 on this one

03:51:29.700 thank you wally

03:51:31.480 brian's next lawsuit

03:51:33.020 donated twenty dollars

03:51:34.520 so true

03:51:35.140 brian

03:51:35.500 you're a shitty abuser

03:51:36.940 i'm abusive

03:51:37.440 how dare you feed

03:51:38.420 your guests

03:51:39.220 they probably aren't

03:51:40.840 even chained

03:51:41.760 to the table

03:51:42.500 andrew you monster

03:51:44.480 damn you and your

03:51:45.860 civility

03:51:46.400 way out of line

03:51:47.040 dylan joe donated

03:51:48.900 twenty dollars

03:51:49.820 here's to old

03:51:51.180 king montezuma

03:51:52.300 for fun he would

03:51:53.560 bugger a puma

03:51:54.260 the boomer in play

03:51:55.680 clawed both balls

03:51:56.960 away

03:51:57.320 how's that for

03:51:58.080 animal humor

03:51:58.880 that was not

03:52:00.180 the best one though

03:52:01.420 the other ones

03:52:02.380 were better

03:52:02.960 frankenbecker donated

03:52:04.080 twenty dollars

03:52:05.080 what would be worse

03:52:06.600 andrew

03:52:07.380 i'll allow

03:52:07.800 if three more come in

03:52:09.140 into your eyes

03:52:10.040 while two fisting

03:52:11.220 a burrito

03:52:11.740 or two slices

03:52:12.980 of pineapple pizza

03:52:14.160 i'm gonna eat

03:52:14.560 the pineapple pizza

03:52:15.400 on this one boys

03:52:16.200 okay guys

03:52:17.060 tts is back up

03:52:18.300 if there's

03:52:18.960 three more

03:52:20.120 that trickle through

03:52:20.820 i'll allow it

03:52:21.580 we're back up

03:52:23.160 to two hundred

03:52:23.860 brian

03:52:24.800 what do you prefer

03:52:26.140 a woman with

03:52:27.380 two hundred

03:52:28.000 plus body count

03:52:29.080 with big labia

03:52:29.900 or a woman

03:52:30.640 with thirty

03:52:31.260 plus body count

03:52:32.340 with barrel

03:52:32.840 and plastic chest

03:52:34.220 that's hard

03:52:36.420 well i think

03:52:36.880 on that one

03:52:37.480 like if it's

03:52:38.320 thirty to two hundred

03:52:39.300 who cares

03:52:40.020 like that's like

03:52:41.660 i mean who cares

03:52:42.820 at that point

03:52:43.420 baby ellen

03:52:44.440 plastic chest

03:52:45.460 it's like if someone's

03:52:47.280 like if a woman

03:52:48.780 has two hundred

03:52:49.620 bodies under

03:52:50.320 versus a thousand

03:52:51.280 like just who cares

03:52:52.160 at that point

03:52:52.780 it's so

03:52:53.680 it's so many

03:52:55.040 it's still terrible

03:52:56.180 but i got it

03:52:57.040 a thousand's obvious

03:52:58.800 that's bad

03:53:00.060 like at two hundred

03:53:01.580 there's a chance

03:53:02.900 she doesn't have

03:53:03.580 herpes

03:53:04.000 at a thousand

03:53:06.500 andrew

03:53:07.120 that bitch

03:53:08.720 on some

03:53:09.260 herpes medication

03:53:10.520 okay but if

03:53:11.080 if they were

03:53:11.540 both clean

03:53:12.220 both clean

03:53:13.760 yeah but this

03:53:15.800 kind of

03:53:16.220 both clean

03:53:18.160 both clean

03:53:18.740 yeah

03:53:18.980 still gross

03:53:19.680 still worse

03:53:20.560 yeah

03:53:20.940 it's worse

03:53:21.640 the thousand

03:53:22.460 it's worse

03:53:23.180 but it's like

03:53:23.780 two hundred

03:53:25.020 to a thousand

03:53:25.740 like two hundred

03:53:26.380 to five hundred

03:53:27.060 it's like once

03:53:27.720 you get up

03:53:28.300 into the multitudes

03:53:29.300 of hundreds

03:53:29.840 it's like geez

03:53:30.680 it's just

03:53:31.320 diminishing returns

03:53:32.800 kind of it's like

03:53:33.720 a thousand

03:53:34.500 versus two thousand

03:53:35.640 yeah definitely

03:53:36.620 i would say

03:53:39.180 i mean two thousand

03:53:42.060 is still bad

03:53:42.780 yeah

03:53:43.340 that's an extra

03:53:43.820 thousand dicks

03:53:44.720 yeah

03:53:45.240 that's an extra

03:53:46.400 miles

03:53:46.940 that's like a

03:53:47.660 mile

03:53:47.960 you can forget

03:53:48.520 the first thousand

03:53:49.220 you got a mile

03:53:49.900 of extra dick

03:53:50.480 you can forget

03:53:50.500 the first thousand

03:53:51.280 yeah first thousand

03:53:52.840 is still bad

03:53:53.340 yeah it's still bad

03:53:54.180 i'm not excusing it

03:53:55.220 all right i'll let

03:53:56.020 these last three

03:53:56.740 three come in

03:53:57.540 and then it's

03:53:58.340 back up

03:53:58.720 you just donated

03:53:59.340 twenty dollars

03:54:00.380 sorry brie

03:54:01.600 not a litigator

03:54:02.640 commercial real estate

03:54:04.520 don't grimace

03:54:05.800 chair one

03:54:06.380 that's why you live

03:54:07.620 on ebt

03:54:08.200 and wifey

03:54:09.000 is i'm driving

03:54:09.960 a benz 500 sl

03:54:11.600 roasted

03:54:12.160 that's the trade

03:54:13.220 off

03:54:13.540 she submits

03:54:14.740 buck stops

03:54:15.760 with me

03:54:16.400 boom

03:54:16.860 roasted

03:54:17.400 bigger better

03:54:18.460 bear donated

03:54:19.220 twenty dollars

03:54:20.200 we'll set up

03:54:21.340 debates with

03:54:22.000 andrew on evolution

03:54:23.000 shape of the

03:54:24.040 earth and

03:54:24.480 biblical cosmology

03:54:25.800 okay

03:54:27.720 outcast donated

03:54:34.000 twenty dollars

03:54:34.940 the moist mafia

03:54:36.400 knows best

03:54:37.060 whatever that

03:54:38.360 means

03:54:38.700 all right guys

03:54:39.440 i gotta bump it

03:54:40.040 back up

03:54:40.620 i gotta bump it

03:54:41.460 back up

03:54:42.060 it's now bumped

03:54:43.720 so that should

03:54:46.420 be back

03:54:47.500 set

03:54:48.280 cool guys

03:54:49.480 appreciate

03:54:50.000 all your support

03:54:51.240 during the pizza

03:54:51.780 roast

03:54:52.240 session

03:54:53.560 let's see where

03:54:55.320 we're at here

03:54:55.860 okay

03:54:56.240 getting back

03:54:57.920 into it

03:54:58.520 we were talking

03:54:59.160 about the bow

03:55:00.100 she was wondering

03:55:02.400 your motivations

03:55:03.060 oh wait

03:55:03.820 i need to

03:55:04.560 hold on

03:55:05.100 let me read

03:55:05.460 these really quick

03:55:06.180 uh realistic heart

03:55:07.680 the term bow

03:55:08.320 in the context

03:55:08.880 of a woman's role

03:55:09.580 in a relation

03:55:10.100 to a man

03:55:11.080 can refer to

03:55:11.640 a gesture

03:55:12.080 of respect

03:55:12.700 courtesy

03:55:13.140 or greeting

03:55:13.960 yo realistic heart

03:55:15.420 thank you so much

03:55:15.940 for the soup chat

03:55:16.540 really appreciate it

03:55:17.360 thank you

03:55:17.680 thank you

03:55:18.080 and uh

03:55:19.760 let's see

03:55:20.360 and then i'll just

03:55:21.140 these are just

03:55:22.320 uh below the threshold

03:55:23.220 guys

03:55:23.660 it had to have been

03:55:24.960 through stream labs

03:55:25.600 but we will have

03:55:26.320 them pulled up

03:55:27.100 so

03:55:27.520 thank you guys

03:55:28.700 all right

03:55:29.880 uh

03:55:30.660 the bow video

03:55:33.100 i don't know

03:55:35.060 if we got

03:55:35.500 did you give your

03:55:36.420 take on the bow

03:55:37.100 video i don't know

03:55:37.840 if we got to you

03:55:38.580 would you bow

03:55:39.300 for your man

03:55:39.900 um

03:55:41.120 he would never

03:55:41.720 ask me to do

03:55:42.300 that

03:55:42.520 my husband

03:55:43.400 if he did

03:55:44.220 um i think i'd

03:55:45.900 ask why

03:55:46.360 because he wants

03:55:47.720 my husband is

03:55:48.820 french anything

03:55:49.380 akin to

03:55:50.100 he's french

03:55:50.800 i'm french

03:55:51.820 dane snyder

03:55:53.240 cheer for

03:55:53.760 i don't know

03:55:55.180 sorry wait

03:55:55.920 what that

03:55:56.540 came in after

03:55:56.960 because communism

03:55:57.980 no i'm just

03:55:59.580 making a joke

03:56:00.200 about how

03:56:00.840 the french

03:56:01.520 overthrew their

03:56:02.280 monarchy

03:56:02.680 and bowing

03:56:03.720 is

03:56:03.960 related to that

03:56:05.420 so you would

03:56:06.800 not bow

03:56:07.260 for your husband

03:56:07.920 i just

03:56:09.100 i i just

03:56:10.240 don't think

03:56:11.260 he would

03:56:11.460 ask me that

03:56:11.980 well they

03:56:12.380 threw over

03:56:12.820 their monarchy

03:56:13.360 for an emperor

03:56:14.200 an emperor

03:56:16.620 literally

03:56:17.320 it was just a joke

03:56:19.700 yeah

03:56:20.240 so

03:56:21.040 i get

03:56:22.940 that your

03:56:23.660 husband

03:56:24.020 you don't

03:56:24.740 think he

03:56:25.080 would ask

03:56:25.420 this

03:56:25.740 but let's

03:56:26.600 assume that

03:56:27.100 he did

03:56:27.640 um

03:56:29.980 so far

03:56:31.500 both of

03:56:31.940 us

03:56:32.140 have been

03:56:32.500 working

03:56:32.880 um

03:56:34.020 how is

03:56:34.440 that

03:56:34.580 relevant

03:56:34.900 because

03:56:35.740 it

03:56:36.400 i'm

03:56:37.280 hearkening

03:56:38.300 back to

03:56:38.640 the conversation

03:56:39.140 we had

03:56:39.440 earlier about

03:56:40.140 um

03:56:40.780 both the

03:56:41.760 man and

03:56:42.120 the woman

03:56:42.380 working

03:56:42.720 and how

03:56:43.140 that

03:56:43.400 would

03:56:43.900 distribute

03:56:44.280 you know

03:56:45.080 um

03:56:45.780 i guess

03:56:46.700 subordinates

03:56:47.740 from the

03:56:48.020 woman's part

03:56:48.580 it would

03:56:49.120 be i think

03:56:49.660 um

03:56:50.020 more on

03:56:50.440 par

03:56:50.680 with the

03:56:51.100 man

03:56:51.300 if they're

03:56:51.700 both

03:56:51.860 working

03:56:52.160 and that's

03:56:52.680 how my

03:56:53.100 relationship

03:56:53.480 has been

03:56:53.860 thus far

03:56:54.320 um

03:56:55.380 but no

03:56:56.460 i don't

03:56:56.880 well you're

03:56:57.120 christian though

03:56:57.620 right

03:56:57.840 yeah we're

03:56:58.720 catholic

03:56:59.160 but so

03:57:00.340 are you not

03:57:00.880 submissive to

03:57:01.600 your husband

03:57:02.180 i am

03:57:02.820 but so

03:57:03.880 how does

03:57:04.280 what

03:57:04.580 if you're

03:57:05.260 submissive to

03:57:05.760 your husband

03:57:06.120 i think

03:57:06.360 bowing has

03:57:07.120 a i think

03:57:08.080 the connotation

03:57:09.640 behind bowing

03:57:10.440 can be seen

03:57:11.200 as um

03:57:12.460 degrading

03:57:13.040 i just

03:57:13.880 i think

03:57:15.060 basically

03:57:15.380 you're you're

03:57:16.060 married right

03:57:16.640 yes

03:57:16.980 did your husband

03:57:17.560 get on one

03:57:18.280 knee to

03:57:19.200 propose to

03:57:19.680 you

03:57:19.840 he did

03:57:20.180 yes

03:57:20.520 so he kneeled

03:57:21.360 yes

03:57:21.960 before you

03:57:22.660 yes

03:57:23.120 how much did

03:57:23.700 you spend on

03:57:24.140 the wedding

03:57:24.440 ring

03:57:24.700 i don't

03:57:25.620 know i did

03:57:26.060 not ask

03:57:26.460 him

03:57:26.700 sounds pretty

03:57:27.400 why don't you

03:57:28.000 why don't you

03:57:28.520 hold up your

03:57:28.960 hand and show

03:57:29.620 us your

03:57:29.920 wedding ring

03:57:30.440 and i'm not

03:57:32.220 i don't know

03:57:32.660 anything about

03:57:33.620 wedding rings

03:57:34.340 it's a sapphire

03:57:35.160 would you have

03:57:39.140 been upset if

03:57:39.680 he bought you

03:57:40.100 a cubic

03:57:40.520 zirconia

03:57:41.080 no

03:57:41.660 no

03:57:42.320 ten dollar

03:57:43.380 wedding ring

03:57:44.360 okay

03:57:44.640 uh in any

03:57:46.000 case he kneeled

03:57:47.100 he kneeled

03:57:48.120 right

03:57:48.400 just curious

03:57:49.840 um what's a

03:57:50.860 bigger ask

03:57:51.400 a kneel

03:57:51.900 or a bow

03:57:52.480 you kneel

03:57:54.140 once to

03:57:54.740 propose

03:57:54.900 no no

03:57:55.180 just answer

03:57:55.600 the question

03:57:56.100 though

03:57:56.420 a bow

03:57:57.320 is worse

03:57:58.120 so which

03:58:00.780 is easier

03:58:01.540 physically to

03:58:02.520 do a

03:58:03.560 kneel or

03:58:04.320 a bow

03:58:05.040 a bow

03:58:07.060 um

03:58:09.960 kneeling like

03:58:12.080 i don't know

03:58:12.860 okay so

03:58:14.080 like in like i

03:58:15.640 guess there's

03:58:16.040 different kinds

03:58:16.740 of kneeling

03:58:17.280 like fully on

03:58:19.300 the ground

03:58:19.840 or like

03:58:20.620 if you have

03:58:21.240 a bad

03:58:21.580 back kneeling

03:58:22.200 is going

03:58:22.520 to be

03:58:22.700 way worse

03:58:23.300 you're using

03:58:23.820 your glutes

03:58:24.320 and you're

03:58:24.580 using squatting

03:58:25.460 to support

03:58:26.680 you not

03:58:27.460 your back

03:58:27.940 lucas donated

03:58:30.900 two hundred

03:58:31.660 dollars and

03:58:33.120 to round it

03:58:34.020 all up i'm

03:58:34.820 greek orthodox

03:58:35.620 as well both

03:58:36.680 of us by

03:58:37.200 birth so our

03:58:38.340 household is

03:58:39.060 highly patriarchal

03:58:40.200 with actual

03:58:40.860 cross-generational

03:58:41.960 deference to my

03:58:42.840 father and

03:58:43.400 grandfather when

03:58:44.680 alive

03:58:45.240 awesome lucas

03:58:48.440 interesting by

03:58:50.360 the way grid

03:58:51.100 one or sorry

03:58:52.960 not grid one

03:58:53.500 it was lol

03:58:53.900 paladins i

03:58:57.200 know you sent

03:58:58.060 one in and

03:58:58.660 i i think it

03:59:00.640 was i agree

03:59:01.300 that it just

03:59:02.200 got pushed

03:59:02.720 down it's i

03:59:04.260 agree chair

03:59:04.780 for that's why

03:59:05.480 you should dm

03:59:06.060 after the show

03:59:06.640 i've only had

03:59:07.440 sex with around

03:59:08.000 500 women but

03:59:09.300 i'm reformed

03:59:09.920 him now and

03:59:10.920 looking to find

03:59:11.440 a good christian

03:59:12.040 woman to settle

03:59:12.680 down with

03:59:13.240 that's to

03:59:15.840 you okay

03:59:16.660 okay word

03:59:19.820 okay uh

03:59:21.700 so wait

03:59:23.500 going back

03:59:24.080 to lucas by

03:59:26.040 the way thank

03:59:26.360 you for the

03:59:26.740 uh tts

03:59:27.940 wait so

03:59:29.440 your husband

03:59:32.440 kneeled

03:59:32.880 he kneeled

03:59:34.540 that's degrading

03:59:35.980 i think that's

03:59:37.360 tradition and

03:59:38.680 i think that

03:59:39.380 that's not

03:59:40.100 he's bowing

03:59:40.960 i don't think

03:59:42.220 that that's a

03:59:42.920 commonplace

03:59:43.800 um practice

03:59:44.720 for women

03:59:45.220 in our society

03:59:45.860 and it's not

03:59:46.640 wait but

03:59:47.500 tradition

03:59:48.220 true when

03:59:49.220 you're talking

03:59:49.440 about traditions

03:59:50.120 what do you

03:59:51.180 mean it's

03:59:51.440 commonplace

03:59:52.280 meaning that

03:59:53.680 we're not

03:59:54.520 we're not

03:59:55.820 brought up

03:59:56.560 and accustomed

03:59:57.040 to i think

03:59:57.980 my husband

03:59:58.420 in other ways

03:59:59.180 and i show

03:59:59.620 him gratitude

04:00:00.240 in other ways

04:00:00.880 but i don't

04:00:01.360 think that

04:00:01.960 what you

04:00:03.420 mentioned like

04:00:04.140 tradition

04:00:04.660 brought up

04:00:05.260 for tradition

04:00:05.980 at all

04:00:06.500 like

04:00:07.120 you're

04:00:08.140 the all

04:00:09.040 of society

04:00:09.720 is essentially

04:00:10.720 railing against

04:00:11.600 traditionalism

04:00:12.380 at all

04:00:12.740 times

04:00:13.040 but because

04:00:13.840 i live a

04:00:14.620 more traditional

04:00:15.080 lifestyle with

04:00:15.880 my husband

04:00:16.280 and we do

04:00:17.000 adhere to

04:00:17.740 you know

04:00:18.300 traditional

04:00:18.760 values

04:00:19.400 and when

04:00:20.960 a man

04:00:21.280 proposes

04:00:21.780 he does

04:00:22.220 usually

04:00:22.600 get down

04:00:23.500 on one

04:00:23.880 knee

04:00:24.100 so that

04:00:24.460 was something

04:00:24.800 but had

04:00:25.140 he not

04:00:25.540 done that

04:00:25.960 i would

04:00:26.240 not have

04:00:26.520 been upset

04:00:26.940 that was

04:00:27.380 something

04:00:27.560 he chose

04:00:27.980 to do

04:00:28.340 i don't

04:00:31.580 get this

04:00:31.940 this talk

04:00:32.740 about

04:00:33.100 tradition

04:00:33.940 because

04:00:34.960 women have

04:00:35.500 totally

04:00:36.020 forsaken

04:00:36.800 yeah that's

04:00:37.580 gone

04:00:37.800 the their

04:00:38.740 traditional

04:00:39.160 expectations

04:00:39.880 so it's

04:00:40.340 like

04:00:40.580 women

04:00:41.420 even

04:00:41.920 liberal

04:00:42.500 secular

04:00:43.140 atheist

04:00:43.800 women

04:00:44.240 like still

04:00:45.360 have

04:00:45.720 their boot

04:00:46.820 on men's

04:00:47.540 neck

04:00:47.900 when it

04:00:48.280 comes to

04:00:48.820 traditional

04:00:49.660 expectations

04:00:50.400 when it

04:00:51.600 comes to

04:00:52.000 what men

04:00:52.680 need to

04:00:53.060 do

04:00:53.320 provide

04:00:54.140 protect

04:00:54.960 what else

04:00:55.980 do men

04:00:56.660 need to

04:00:56.920 do

04:00:57.140 what

04:00:58.300 what else

04:00:59.400 yeah just

04:00:59.800 provide and

04:01:00.300 protect

04:01:00.620 just

04:01:01.340 just

04:01:02.780 so are you

04:01:03.980 downplaying

04:01:04.640 what that

04:01:05.840 entails

04:01:06.520 well it's

04:01:08.800 not like

04:01:09.260 what are you

04:01:10.140 really protecting

04:01:11.160 us from

04:01:12.160 on a day-to-day

04:01:12.880 basis

04:01:13.280 from yourself

04:01:14.140 and from

04:01:14.820 external threats

04:01:15.920 like what

04:01:17.460 like the chat

04:01:18.540 no i'm just

04:01:18.980 kidding but

04:01:19.480 seriously like

04:01:20.560 what

04:01:20.880 no mostly

04:01:21.680 dying from

04:01:22.580 the elements

04:01:23.100 ailments

04:01:24.000 elements

04:01:25.060 elements

04:01:25.660 such as

04:01:26.980 mcdonald's

04:01:27.620 or such

04:01:28.600 as like

04:01:29.060 like probably

04:01:30.040 like air

04:01:30.460 conditioning

04:01:30.900 and you

04:01:32.460 probably like

04:01:32.800 eating

04:01:33.140 you probably

04:01:34.420 like those

04:01:34.940 well my

04:01:35.360 yeah my dad

04:01:35.840 my dad worked

04:01:36.800 in hvac for

04:01:37.440 20 years

04:01:37.940 you probably

04:01:38.280 like electricity

04:01:38.960 i mean

04:01:40.620 you probably

04:01:41.600 don't like

04:01:42.020 you probably

04:01:42.720 don't like to

04:01:43.200 die from a

04:01:43.760 thing called

04:01:44.140 hearth death

04:01:44.920 which is where

04:01:45.700 you have to

04:01:46.120 cook over a

04:01:46.960 hearth and so

04:01:47.500 your dress catches

04:01:48.260 fire and you

04:01:48.900 burn alive that

04:01:49.760 was an actual

04:01:50.360 way women used

04:01:51.060 to die a lot

04:01:52.020 of them by

04:01:53.340 hearth death

04:01:54.440 luckily though

04:01:55.620 you don't have

04:01:56.200 to deal with

04:01:57.000 cooking your

04:01:57.620 food over an

04:01:58.420 open fire

04:01:59.080 and that's

04:01:59.840 because of

04:02:00.380 modern infrastructure

04:02:01.440 which also

04:02:02.240 enables you to

04:02:02.900 work in almost

04:02:03.860 any type of

04:02:04.540 environment

04:02:05.160 conducive to

04:02:07.160 your needs

04:02:07.660 temperature

04:02:08.080 controlled for

04:02:09.560 your needs

04:02:10.140 and it's like

04:02:10.660 yes that all

04:02:11.360 comes from

04:02:12.080 well wouldn't

04:02:13.460 you know it

04:02:13.980 men how many

04:02:15.060 men work with

04:02:15.840 your father in

04:02:16.420 hvac

04:02:16.940 all of them

04:02:19.800 right how

04:02:20.860 many women

04:02:21.300 i'm not

04:02:21.900 downplaying

04:02:22.420 hang on i

04:02:22.840 just want to

04:02:23.160 know how

04:02:23.540 many women

04:02:24.100 work with

04:02:24.580 your father

04:02:25.000 in hvac

04:02:25.560 how many

04:02:27.020 men right

04:02:27.400 now how

04:02:27.920 many women

04:02:28.420 women oh

04:02:29.180 um i don't

04:02:31.940 think any yeah

04:02:32.920 yeah wait so

04:02:34.940 okay going back

04:02:35.580 to the whole

04:02:35.980 traditional thing

04:02:36.680 here so it's

04:02:39.020 just interesting

04:02:39.580 like because

04:02:40.620 we're talking

04:02:41.060 about this

04:02:41.420 bow thing and

04:02:42.140 i bring up

04:02:42.600 kneeling and

04:02:43.420 you're saying

04:02:43.800 well kneeling

04:02:44.420 is this

04:02:44.800 traditional thing

04:02:45.580 but i'm like

04:02:46.740 well women have

04:02:47.480 totally given

04:02:48.280 up their

04:02:49.000 traditional

04:02:49.580 obligations so

04:02:50.880 it's like you

04:02:51.640 want men to

04:02:52.200 kneel you

04:02:52.620 want men to

04:02:53.240 propose you

04:02:54.260 want men to

04:02:54.660 pay for first

04:02:55.200 dates you

04:02:55.860 still want men

04:02:56.400 to be leaders

04:02:56.960 and masculine

04:02:57.500 and take

04:02:58.440 initiative when

04:02:59.160 it comes to

04:02:59.680 courtship and

04:03:00.520 all this sort

04:03:00.980 of stuff chivalry

04:03:02.300 etc providing

04:03:03.280 protecting but

04:03:04.540 it's like women

04:03:05.980 are no longer

04:03:06.920 chaste women

04:03:09.140 aren't virgins

04:03:10.000 anymore you're

04:03:12.240 not feminine you're

04:03:13.080 not submissive so

04:03:16.720 it's like that's

04:03:18.060 my maybe some of

04:03:19.620 you are and i'm

04:03:20.100 not speaking about

04:03:20.760 the table

04:03:21.500 here but it's

04:03:23.940 like if we want

04:03:26.880 to talk about

04:03:27.320 tradition where's

04:03:29.660 all the virgin

04:03:30.220 women well me

04:03:31.580 for myself with

04:03:32.360 my husband when

04:03:33.060 we were speaking

04:03:34.100 earlier i i am

04:03:35.700 pretty traditional

04:03:36.280 and i do even

04:03:37.540 when though we've

04:03:38.080 been we don't

04:03:38.740 have children quite

04:03:39.500 yet because we

04:03:39.900 did just get

04:03:40.320 married in may

04:03:40.840 but um even

04:03:42.300 when we've both

04:03:42.820 been working i

04:03:43.440 still take on the

04:03:44.780 household duties of

04:03:45.640 cooking and

04:03:46.120 cleaning and i

04:03:46.760 still want to show

04:03:47.560 him that that's

04:03:48.120 something that i

04:03:48.640 would like to

04:03:49.240 pursue even more

04:03:50.320 especially when

04:03:50.880 we do have

04:03:51.240 children i

04:03:51.680 would like to

04:03:52.200 hopefully be stay

04:03:53.720 at home i don't

04:03:54.460 know if it's

04:03:54.820 possible in this

04:03:55.540 economy but sure

04:03:56.680 that is something

04:03:57.180 i put well

04:03:57.980 that's all that's

04:03:58.780 all due to

04:03:59.720 catholicism though

04:04:00.640 right you're

04:04:01.260 leaning towards

04:04:01.720 catholicism so

04:04:02.480 that makes sense

04:04:03.240 but you would

04:04:04.220 have to agree

04:04:04.820 with brian that

04:04:06.040 as far as

04:04:06.900 traditionalism

04:04:08.260 especially when

04:04:09.180 it comes to a

04:04:10.420 christian household

04:04:11.220 that's gone

04:04:12.160 essentially that's

04:04:13.880 not promoted

04:04:14.400 anywhere unless

04:04:15.400 it's yeah no i

04:04:16.080 think it's

04:04:16.500 definitely lacking

04:04:17.240 big time that's

04:04:18.220 why i try to

04:04:18.760 uphold it in my

04:04:19.580 my house

04:04:20.220 were you um

04:04:23.280 were you a

04:04:24.920 virgin when you

04:04:26.460 met your now

04:04:27.140 husband yeah

04:04:27.880 okay all right

04:04:32.000 we met when i was

04:04:35.960 in my earlier

04:04:36.720 20s so

04:04:37.480 good well that's

04:04:44.200 certainly an

04:04:44.600 outlier most

04:04:45.200 women are not

04:04:45.880 uh remaining

04:04:46.740 virgins uh

04:04:48.120 so uh it's

04:04:50.440 just interesting

04:04:50.940 to me that

04:04:51.540 there's this sort

04:04:52.620 of uh traditional

04:04:53.340 expectation on

04:04:54.140 men not so much

04:04:54.880 on women

04:04:55.260 um like i

04:04:57.360 can't i would

04:04:58.040 like to ask

04:04:58.560 this question i

04:04:59.280 ask it almost

04:05:00.540 every panel now

04:05:01.380 and i'd like to

04:05:01.860 ask it for this

04:05:02.420 one so secular

04:05:03.340 meaning non-religious

04:05:04.640 no religion can

04:05:07.600 anybody here

04:05:08.440 actually give me a

04:05:09.460 compelling reason if

04:05:10.420 you were a man

04:05:11.300 for why you would

04:05:13.220 risk getting married

04:05:14.200 in modernity if

04:05:16.040 you were not

04:05:16.860 religious i

04:05:18.880 give you a few

04:05:19.340 already give

04:05:20.400 yeah just one be

04:05:21.380 good higher life

04:05:23.740 expectancy longer

04:05:25.260 life expectancy

04:05:25.920 yeah how much more

04:05:26.800 life do you think

04:05:27.900 the average man gets

04:05:29.180 from being married

04:05:30.040 you want me to

04:05:31.940 like remember the

04:05:33.060 details of articles

04:05:34.640 do you think it's

04:05:35.120 a lot

04:05:35.500 i think it's

04:05:37.600 several years i

04:05:38.460 believe it was

04:05:39.620 several years

04:05:40.220 and was that

04:05:42.260 compounded with how

04:05:43.120 religious they were

04:05:44.260 couldn't say

04:05:45.460 well the answer is

04:05:46.200 yes so if it's

04:05:47.620 non-religious reason

04:05:48.780 right i'm looking

04:05:50.000 for a non-religious

04:05:51.020 reason yes but

04:05:52.000 maybe like send the

04:05:54.140 links to the

04:05:55.380 studies because i

04:05:56.240 don't know that

04:05:56.620 that's even the

04:05:57.160 case yeah but

04:05:58.120 you don't even

04:05:58.500 know how much

04:05:59.140 longer the life

04:05:59.960 expectancy is

04:06:01.000 yeah so it's

04:06:02.120 something we should

04:06:02.540 look at but i

04:06:03.160 know that it's a

04:06:03.620 fact

04:06:03.920 it's a fact for

04:06:05.780 some men just

04:06:06.960 like they make

04:06:07.740 more overall they

04:06:09.220 do better with um

04:06:10.700 health outcomes in

04:06:11.480 the hospital we went

04:06:12.080 over the reasons why

04:06:12.980 they they make more

04:06:14.320 overall which is that

04:06:15.820 they mitigate risk and

04:06:18.480 they that's why they

04:06:19.060 live longer too it's

04:06:20.020 because of risk

04:06:20.840 mitigation and so

04:06:22.560 they work a benefit

04:06:23.400 they work longer out

04:06:24.720 no it's a trade-off

04:06:26.460 not a benefit trade-off

04:06:27.760 that benefits them

04:06:29.300 trade-off okay well

04:06:30.400 let me ask you a

04:06:30.940 question do you think

04:06:31.560 that a man would

04:06:32.040 rather work 15

04:06:32.920 hours more a week or

04:06:33.880 sit on his ass and

04:06:34.480 play video games i

04:06:36.040 can't argue this because

04:06:36.880 i don't know that i'm

04:06:38.860 asking you the work

04:06:39.700 time what do you

04:06:40.660 mean if it let's just

04:06:41.900 assume we're just

04:06:42.480 going to assume

04:06:42.900 hypothetically let's

04:06:43.840 say 10 hours do you

04:06:44.740 think that he would

04:06:45.300 prefer to work 10

04:06:46.460 additional hours of

04:06:47.540 overtime a week or not

04:06:49.040 have to do that so

04:06:49.980 that he can take those

04:06:50.660 10 hours for some type

04:06:51.900 of recreation like

04:06:52.680 video games shooting

04:06:53.840 guns hunting fishing

04:06:55.880 hanging out with the

04:06:57.100 boys and drinking or

04:06:58.120 any number of those

04:06:58.940 things if it took

04:06:59.600 years off of his

04:07:00.180 life i don't know

04:07:01.280 what years being

04:07:02.380 years you're talking

04:07:05.660 about a life

04:07:06.260 expecting that you're

04:07:06.980 talking about 1.3 or

04:07:08.960 1.2 it's negligible

04:07:10.980 negligible for most

04:07:13.140 men now if they're

04:07:14.160 heavily religious that

04:07:15.400 increases that's true

04:07:16.700 but we're talking about

04:07:17.540 secularists here so

04:07:19.280 the thing is it's like

04:07:20.000 here's my question even

04:07:21.020 if i were to grant it

04:07:21.940 let's just say it was

04:07:22.500 like four years or five

04:07:24.340 years even right and

04:07:26.020 you were to ask a man

04:07:26.580 okay hey look you go

04:07:28.040 bust your ass for an

04:07:29.440 additional um you

04:07:31.620 know 10 or 15 hours

04:07:33.360 per week okay or you

04:07:36.180 can spend the time

04:07:37.120 doing recreation right

04:07:39.060 and the type of

04:07:40.360 recreation you do is

04:07:41.280 going to be slightly

04:07:41.940 more dangerous okay

04:07:43.540 that's what shaves off

04:07:45.620 the life expectancy

04:07:46.460 that's what's so

04:07:47.600 bothersome to me about

04:07:48.720 your argument is

04:07:49.700 because you go you

04:07:50.840 do you act like

04:07:51.620 they're just like oh

04:07:52.520 they just live longer

04:07:53.580 no that's not how

04:07:54.520 averages on life

04:07:55.480 expectancy work if

04:07:56.900 you are moving

04:07:57.880 towards high risk

04:07:58.760 behavior your life

04:08:00.120 expectancy decreases so

04:08:02.340 it's just like the fact

04:08:03.500 that they can go out and

04:08:04.360 do recreational things

04:08:05.520 that are slightly

04:08:06.160 dangerous is going to

04:08:07.500 increase the chances that

04:08:08.700 they die okay but

04:08:09.920 there's a lot of

04:08:10.400 variables to this like

04:08:11.360 you can be dating

04:08:12.160 somebody and not be

04:08:13.120 married and your

04:08:13.720 partner still not want

04:08:14.580 you to go out and do

04:08:15.260 things you might be

04:08:15.860 limited to what you're

04:08:16.660 allowed to do within the

04:08:17.780 parameters of a

04:08:18.900 relationship where you're

04:08:20.120 not married not on

04:08:20.640 average here's what's

04:08:22.920 going to happen on

04:08:23.500 average here's what is

04:08:24.680 happening on average I'm

04:08:25.520 literally explaining it

04:08:26.540 to you and it

04:08:27.640 logically makes sense as

04:08:28.780 well you and I would

04:08:30.680 agree that when you're

04:08:31.380 talking about life

04:08:32.040 expectancy right you're

04:08:34.200 averaging this right so

04:08:35.400 you're taking all of the

04:08:36.520 averages of these men well

04:08:38.340 so here's what we find

04:08:39.540 inside of these studies

04:08:40.680 okay especially this one

04:08:41.900 you're talking about with

04:08:42.980 increased longevity health

04:08:45.740 benefits things like this

04:08:47.040 okay if a man is working

04:08:49.620 in his job for an

04:08:51.400 additional five or ten

04:08:52.420 hours or whatever not

04:08:53.740 every job is going to be

04:08:54.500 blue-collar right they're

04:08:56.720 just not however a lot of

04:08:58.520 white-collar people still do

04:08:59.940 high-risk activities just

04:09:01.560 like blue-collar people do

04:09:02.800 for recreation because

04:09:04.120 they're men men do higher

04:09:05.300 risk activities so if you

04:09:07.660 take the time in the

04:09:08.780 workplace away and now

04:09:10.840 they have more time for

04:09:12.180 high-risk activities more

04:09:13.920 of them will die doing

04:09:15.080 recreation therefore the

04:09:16.780 average life expectancy

04:09:18.080 decreases that is you say

04:09:21.160 that this is a trade-off no

04:09:22.500 not really all it is is oh

04:09:24.500 now I can have fun and

04:09:25.740 that slightly increases my

04:09:27.120 chance of dying early oh

04:09:28.580 no and and being healthier

04:09:30.180 but like earlier Brian

04:09:31.660 mentioned that no it's not

04:09:32.760 healthier well you know

04:09:34.220 yeah they are healthier on

04:09:35.940 average as well so it's not

04:09:37.340 just that they don't die as

04:09:38.360 often as they know can we

04:09:39.520 just reject no no no

04:09:40.780 hang on healthier first of

04:09:42.980 all no it's not that they're

04:09:45.000 healthier it's that they

04:09:46.580 have more doctor checkups

04:09:48.640 that's it that's the only

04:09:50.360 distinction so okay but

04:09:52.100 earlier like she had asked

04:09:54.240 what do men protect us from

04:09:55.440 and Brian mentioned

04:09:56.060 yourself you don't think and

04:09:57.640 I agree I can tell you men

04:09:59.840 have been like uh drive

04:10:01.120 better like you know for

04:10:02.340 weddings and that's that's

04:10:03.420 valid you don't think that

04:10:04.900 it's more like they build

04:10:05.800 all the roads okay but you

04:10:06.720 don't think it's oh my gosh

04:10:09.080 you don't think it's a

04:10:10.040 benefit that you have

04:10:10.980 someone in your life to like

04:10:13.160 help you take less risky

04:10:15.740 behaviors or like you don't

04:10:17.440 think that it's overall a

04:10:18.600 benefit no not if I look at

04:10:19.880 the high risk of divorce so

04:10:22.000 I saw what I'm looking at

04:10:23.280 saying that what I'm looking

04:10:24.380 at is the mitigation right

04:10:25.680 I'm just looking at the

04:10:26.680 risk first mitigation from a

04:10:27.840 secular standpoint so I go

04:10:28.980 okay so here's what I look

04:10:29.980 at you just ask what are any

04:10:31.020 benefits no I ask I what I'm

04:10:33.640 asking you specifically is

04:10:35.020 this to a compelling reason as

04:10:38.520 a secularist to get married you

04:10:40.800 say okay it's because it's

04:10:42.540 because your life expectancy

04:10:43.740 could increase my argument to

04:10:45.260 this is yeah not really what's

04:10:47.320 happening instead is that your

04:10:48.540 recreation time is actually

04:10:50.140 decreasing and because the

04:10:51.740 forms of recreation men do are

04:10:53.040 dangerous you could end up

04:10:55.980 dying and so it brings the

04:10:57.040 entire average down that's

04:10:58.980 what's going on there and then

04:11:00.660 two what about the risk of

04:11:02.400 divorce which I think far

04:11:04.220 outweighs all of these so well

04:11:06.720 that part is fair so my so my

04:11:08.300 question again is my initial

04:11:10.200 question was a compelling reason

04:11:11.640 I'm looking for a compelling

04:11:13.100 reason for a secularist to get

04:11:14.700 married that like outweighs the

04:11:15.980 risk of divorce outweighs the

04:11:18.000 risk of everything else yeah

04:11:19.080 that would be compelling

04:11:20.420 honestly I don't think I would

04:11:26.780 even do it so but but there are

04:11:29.300 benefits to marriage and I don't

04:11:30.680 want to discredit that I'm not

04:11:31.920 nobody would argue that there's

04:11:33.780 benefits to marriage I'm not

04:11:35.240 arguing that's why I answered the

04:11:36.440 way I did though because

04:11:37.060 initially you just said give one

04:11:38.320 reason to get married I didn't I

04:11:39.980 said give me a good compelling

04:11:41.580 reason okay yeah compelling so if

04:11:45.140 you have if when I think

04:11:46.320 compelling I think I should do

04:11:48.360 this based on this reason we

04:11:50.160 could say there's like tax and

04:11:51.180 financial benefits but you could

04:11:52.300 do that technically without

04:11:54.260 marriage you can yeah so I mean I

04:11:56.860 don't I don't I don't understand

04:11:58.280 from the site I've thought about

04:11:59.900 this a million times because I'd

04:12:00.980 love to tell secularists that they

04:12:02.360 should get married right you

04:12:04.360 should but I can't give them a

04:12:06.880 good reason why they should for

04:12:08.840 love and to commit to somebody

04:12:10.060 until you die sure why do you need

04:12:12.600 marriage for that there well

04:12:15.700 there's a lot of um like there's

04:12:18.480 you can hold life insurance thing

04:12:21.420 you can get life insurance without

04:12:22.740 being married yeah that's true

04:12:23.860 attorney too yeah um well it's a

04:12:27.280 commitment it's a commitment you can

04:12:28.680 commit to people with traditional

04:12:30.060 you can commit to each other on

04:12:31.580 paper never get married also you can

04:12:34.360 get married and then uncommit easily

04:12:35.860 yeah you can break it easier than you

04:12:37.620 can't a cell phone contract you can

04:12:39.800 literally get out of your marriage

04:12:40.820 easier than a cell phone contract

04:12:42.180 unless they keep filing for

04:12:43.780 retrials so the thing is is like I'm

04:12:47.360 trying to figure out what is a good

04:12:48.620 compelling reason for a person is

04:12:50.080 not religious to get married and I

04:12:51.320 always come up with the same kind of

04:12:52.480 answers right it's like what about

04:12:54.040 commitment we could still commit what

04:12:55.580 about children you still have

04:12:56.460 children like what what's the benefit

04:12:59.520 to them love it's not I guess it

04:13:03.140 compelling to everybody but I would

04:13:04.580 can't you can't you have love

04:13:05.720 without marriage yeah of course

04:13:07.940 yeah okay um so not love then what do

04:13:16.240 you mean I mean you just conceded that

04:13:18.400 you can have love without marriage can

04:13:21.420 have love without marriage yeah can I

04:13:23.260 love with marriage right so but you

04:13:25.720 said should get married because love but

04:13:28.700 yeah for love because you love each

04:13:30.400 other and you guys want to put that on

04:13:32.080 as the man says I don't want to get

04:13:34.280 married but I still love you yeah

04:13:38.440 yeah but that's not a compelling

04:13:39.880 reason for met for men to get married

04:13:42.940 what would you say it's a compelling

04:13:46.140 reason I think there is I'm against

04:13:48.160 marriage no you're not against

04:13:50.740 religious marriage I'm not yeah I

04:13:52.580 should be more precise I don't have

04:13:54.360 objections to religious marriage I'm

04:13:59.360 not getting married though not even

04:14:01.720 religiously he's not religious I'm not

04:14:04.740 religious oh maybe Andrew's working

04:14:06.740 on me he'll get me he'll get me there

04:14:08.920 uh yeah I don't see the point of

04:14:11.720 marriage I'm not gonna do it it's a bad

04:14:15.780 deal for men

04:14:16.500 yeah secularly I don't there's no

04:14:21.360 purpose yeah I can't think of a single

04:14:23.660 good reason and I argue it's pretty

04:14:25.340 funny I argue with Catholics about it

04:14:26.780 all the time right because they're

04:14:27.960 like natural law but I think the

04:14:29.800 biggest reason is just to say that

04:14:31.120 you have a husband or a wife

04:14:32.260 honestly like or the wedding but I

04:14:34.240 don't even want the wedding well no

04:14:36.160 the benefits are very compelling for

04:14:37.620 secular women they're just not very

04:14:40.220 compelling for secular men there's

04:14:43.780 several reasons I I could think of

04:14:45.840 as you're very compelling for secular

04:14:47.080 women to get married I just can't

04:14:48.860 think of any for secular men to get

04:14:50.320 married seems like a really bad deal

04:14:52.480 not even money for the man yeah for

04:14:55.600 the man maybe she has more money no

04:14:59.140 then maybe do it nope what's really

04:15:02.720 interesting is that even even when you

04:15:04.500 have a gap you know like that seems to

04:15:07.520 flip so that's uh that's what's

04:15:11.240 interesting right it seems to flip so

04:15:12.760 the question becomes what is the actual

04:15:15.460 reason for a secularist to get married

04:15:17.080 that is compelling she argued some kind

04:15:19.400 of basic stats which are they're

04:15:21.200 interesting stats don't get me wrong I

04:15:22.900 thought they were pretty good too I

04:15:24.400 tangled up with several people and I've

04:15:26.280 even utilized those stats right but I

04:15:29.900 parse them out differently the the

04:15:32.160 biggest the biggest issue is that again

04:15:36.120 even with her stats it comes down to the

04:15:38.320 religion being kind of the bigger bigger

04:15:41.380 correlate for these things for the life

04:15:43.020 expectancy everything else so I just

04:15:46.120 wonder Bob Evans think you're the gifted

04:15:47.500 50 I just wonder what the compelling

04:15:48.840 reason is I don't think we have one

04:15:50.260 Brian I don't think so I'm a little

04:15:52.800 confused here though you said money

04:15:54.880 can you explain that a little bit

04:15:56.800 well anyone can marry for money and then

04:15:59.000 no what do you mean you mean as a

04:16:03.040 reason to get married yeah it's a

04:16:04.860 compelling reason for some she's saying

04:16:07.020 that it would be a compelling reason for

04:16:08.540 a secular man to get married if the

04:16:09.860 woman was loaded that's if yes but the

04:16:13.760 reality is is that most women even

04:16:16.060 secular women are not prepared to take

04:16:20.380 on a man like that yeah but you know

04:16:23.380 what I would make the concession here

04:16:25.060 that if I were a secularist and like the

04:16:29.380 woman was beautiful and a multi

04:16:30.700 millionaire right then yeah I think I

04:16:33.840 would marry her like that seems like it

04:16:35.320 would be pretty compelling unless you

04:16:36.940 wanted a prenup but the issue is right

04:16:39.560 I mean there's there's a couple issues

04:16:41.500 here and I mean I think one the first

04:16:43.320 one even even among secular couples

04:16:45.960 typically the man is the breadwinner

04:16:48.420 yeah so while I'll I will grant that

04:16:51.740 there are men who will marry women who

04:16:54.700 earn more than them and in the event of a

04:16:56.760 divorce they would stand to benefit

04:16:58.440 financially in some way this is exceedingly

04:17:01.740 rare women who I mean kind of bringing it

04:17:07.620 to dating a little bit women who are high

04:17:11.840 earners typically don't want to date men

04:17:15.540 who are not at their level women are

04:17:19.360 very good at doing this what about for

04:17:21.740 children hold on women are very good at

04:17:25.280 their stated preference of I only want a

04:17:31.920 man who's on my level or higher so for

04:17:34.460 example a female attorney not going to

04:17:37.720 date the fast food worker male attorney

04:17:40.500 he'll date an attractive pleasant

04:17:43.640 feminine submissive fast food worker

04:17:46.520 but so what and what was your question

04:17:49.560 there oh I'm what about the I was saying

04:17:54.500 for having a child give it just like

04:17:57.460 does that just explain it what you're

04:18:01.340 saying something about oh why would a

04:18:06.420 woman want to get together with a guy

04:18:09.800 who was poor if she was loaded maybe

04:18:12.880 because she's like at the end of her

04:18:14.500 childbearing years and she really wants a

04:18:15.940 kid and she's in love with this guy

04:18:17.100 there's plenty of cases like that well

04:18:19.800 not plenty but maybe some I mean I would

04:18:22.220 just be willing to kind of grant it as

04:18:23.760 an outlier that if I were a secular man

04:18:26.500 and for some reason some chick who was

04:18:29.320 really loaded and a multi-millionaire

04:18:32.400 wanted to get married with no prenup

04:18:35.380 yeah I might do it then right maybe that

04:18:39.680 would be a compelling enough reason right

04:18:42.200 but even if I grant that that is not

04:18:45.560 going to be the case for basically any

04:18:47.320 secular man who exists so the advice of

04:18:50.720 them probably not getting married seems

04:18:52.940 still like it's pretty sound advice but

04:18:55.880 still I'd be willing to grant it my

04:18:58.220 future my potential future brother-in-law

04:19:00.160 did just marry like a super high rich

04:19:01.620 chick and he's like not loaded what's

04:19:05.840 he do for what happens I don't know I

04:19:07.900 think he studied like some kind of

04:19:09.420 liberal arts stuff like I don't actually

04:19:11.300 I don't think I don't know I don't

04:19:12.960 think he does anything right yeah that's

04:19:14.220 could be wrong that's cool it happens

04:19:15.820 yeah it happens it happens but it ain't

04:19:18.760 gonna happen to many people common no just

04:19:22.020 like how you're a liberal woman and even

04:19:25.040 you want a man to be a provider and

04:19:27.900 protector and to pay for on the first

04:19:29.960 date I'm independent huh I'm an

04:19:31.680 independent are you progressive um yes

04:19:36.080 you're pro I mean you're pro-choice I'm

04:19:39.640 assuming you have other leftist or

04:19:42.300 liberal yeah I mean yeah are you voting

04:19:45.020 are you voting Harris who knows that's a

04:19:48.980 yes yeah that's totally it's a yes um for

04:19:51.840 sure but I mean to I guess expand on my

04:19:55.640 point here even liberal women want men to

04:19:59.360 be providers and pay for first dates so

04:20:02.240 it's like as a guy I can't go into a

04:20:06.120 first date with the expectation that

04:20:07.940 she's gonna pay for the entire bill but

04:20:11.620 I'm pretty sure every single one of you

04:20:14.020 at this table has gone on a date with a

04:20:16.320 guy and you weren't it wasn't even a

04:20:18.800 concern in your mind you knew he was

04:20:21.420 gonna pay for the first date let me just

04:20:24.860 show of hands I don't think that's fair

04:20:26.080 show of hands I always offer have you

04:20:28.540 been on that's cool have you been on a

04:20:31.080 singular first date you always offer hold

04:20:34.140 on what have you yeah show of hands have

04:20:37.580 you been on one singular first date where

04:20:40.080 the guy paid the entire bill I can't remember

04:20:44.920 that's a you can't remember I can't remember yeah

04:20:48.920 because you've never been on the first date where

04:20:50.760 the guy you went to a food place oh no I have yeah

04:20:53.800 I have okay it's been so long it's been so long for me I grew up in

04:20:58.900 Los Angeles so I feel like the expectation especially like in the

04:21:03.040 community that I was growing up in I didn't I would always bring my wallet just

04:21:06.060 in case you didn't I wasn't gonna expect it right but did they still pay

04:21:10.100 sometimes they didn't right but have you had the experience like more often

04:21:15.300 than not they would pay for the first date I would say about half half 50% of

04:21:19.760 the time if my expectation as a man was 50% of the time she had to pay for the

04:21:26.560 date I'd be about 50% of the time I'd be going I would be leaving those dates with a

04:21:33.100 lot of pissed off women they'd laugh in my fucking face if I was like you're not

04:21:37.440 getting this women would laugh in my fucking face if I was like oh you're not

04:21:42.720 getting you're not paying for the whole date I actually went on a date once where

04:21:47.360 we were gonna eat and then go to a movie and I paid for my own food when we went

04:21:51.420 to eat and then afterwards when we went to the ticket booth to purchase the

04:21:55.440 tickets he walked away so I had to pay and I felt very awkward so I just did it

04:21:59.260 ironically I do often pay but this is like modern dudes but I often do pay for

04:22:04.180 both but that's not who I want though so like it doesn't discredit his overall

04:22:08.260 point we have realistic heart here it is unfortunate to be listening to so much

04:22:12.400 evidence of programmed contrarians try to occasionally let go of your feelings

04:22:16.240 and embrace the logic W Andrew you know thank you realistic heart I appreciate

04:22:20.200 your super chat I have to run because I thought it was like ending at nine and I

04:22:25.300 have work well because it was gonna be four to nine I thought we were starting

04:22:29.280 at four sharp so I actually have to run but um you're not gonna stay for the rest

04:22:35.380 of the show well it's been five hours now right what's that it's been five hours

04:22:41.220 right what what do you mean I thought we were starting at four sharp so I thought

04:22:48.680 time is four and then we uh when are we going until

04:22:57.000 uh I mean we try to wrap around 11 30 or 12

04:23:04.100 lucas donated two hundred dollars marrying this generation of women is a game of

04:23:11.800 russian roulette for a man 80 percent divorce is initiated by women something

04:23:16.800 like 90 percent of alimony paid from men to women same percent for child support

04:23:21.940 and weekend dad uh lucas thank you very much for the uh tts appreciate it I mean I

04:23:27.300 just looked at our the notes we sent you I said we aim to wrap it uh in for you

04:23:33.260 this has changed since because this was sent back in March of 2024 we've since

04:23:39.320 changed this I did say we aim to wrap at 10 p.m. uh so I don't know where you got the

04:23:44.660 nine number uh in more recent messages I tend to say but may go longer but um okay

04:23:51.260 yeah

04:23:53.400 so do you want to stay I mean I'm not gonna force you you don't have to I I read I

04:24:03.680 thought that it was only through nine but I guess I'm also on the east coast so I

04:24:08.680 didn't realize okay um I mean I didn't even get to your notes but um uh

04:24:14.880 sorry I'm sure you guys will be fine without one less linebacker with a blonde wig

04:24:21.300 do you do you want to at least I can get through your notes I'm good it's all right thank you so

04:24:27.500 all right so I'll get through the rest of the notes then uh let's see here uh tortured

04:24:42.780 tortured yeah tortured um all right we have uh the rest of the notes with Bella here um

04:24:52.320 you hooked up with a guy after you hooked up with a guy from tinder you accidentally grabbed

04:24:58.120 his phone thinking it was yours and his wallpaper was him with another girl I also think he might

04:25:02.620 have lied about his age yeah so this guy that I hooked up with tinder I think his age said like

04:25:08.440 19 but when I got in his car um I mean I didn't think it was suspicious until after we had hooked up

04:25:15.960 and I saw his like wallpaper and I started like making the connections and stuff because I was like

04:25:20.660 I was like asking where he went to school and he was like kind of dodgy about my questions and stuff

04:25:26.540 um and when I picked up his phone it was I couldn't tell if it was him with another girl or if it was

04:25:33.400 just another girl but it was pretty clear that like he had his girlfriend as the wallpaper and I just

04:25:38.960 like pretended not to notice um yeah it was awkward okay uh okay going to let's see here we'll just

04:25:49.820 skip these Ashley's not here uh your notes you said one time when I was 19 I went on a date with

04:25:58.320 a guy I was trying to purchase a tattoo from immediately found out he has three baby mamas

04:26:02.280 decide to let him walk me home instead of bicycling because it didn't have a car then

04:26:06.000 I lived in the studio with a few other housemates was not worried at all about him knowing where I

04:26:10.280 lived on the walk home he starts to really dramatically flirt with me verbally something

04:26:15.040 that stuck with me was that he said I want to have a baby with you it will be so pretty with blue eyes

04:26:19.560 and I'll give it the most attention he also asked me to be his pretend girlfriend for family events

04:26:24.740 which I denied I just wanted a tattoo that was wild and I it was a really nice tattoo um I paid

04:26:34.440 25 in liquor to get it eventually but it took so long to get that tattoo um every single time I would

04:26:41.220 show up to get the tattoo he would um like put me in front of his family and he'd be like just pretend

04:26:46.620 for a second like because we weren't doing anything we weren't kissing we weren't it was just like I

04:26:51.520 felt bad for him at first and I don't know the guy was just a little different wait you hung out with

04:26:57.780 him more than once yeah because I wanted this tattoo so badly and I'd already put so much time on the

04:27:02.400 first so you actually did pretend to be his girlfriend no I so it got really awkward uh when

04:27:08.460 he brought his kids over and he tried to uh hold my hand and immediately when he did that I was like

04:27:13.380 I'm sorry I gotta go I even brought my friend over with me too just like doing this in front of your

04:27:18.400 kids he was single he wasn't seeing how did you guys meet um we met through a friend and they referred

04:27:27.360 him to me what do you what do you mean they referred him to you well I was looking to get a tattoo from

04:27:33.680 a local artist and yeah oh but you said you went on a date with him so is it unreasonable for him to

04:27:42.360 have a romantic interest in you no it's not unreasonable but it's just kind of unreasonable

04:27:47.240 to say things like why did you on the first date like I want to have um kids with you and I'm going

04:27:52.020 to pay attention to this kid only isn't that the story of your current no no you say that I mean you

04:27:59.400 had you literally had a kid it sounded like very soon after meeting your current guy yeah but he

04:28:07.440 is this your current guy no no he doesn't have my current guy doesn't have any other kids besides

04:28:12.880 ours okay but I mean I didn't if I recall correctly didn't you say that when you met your current

04:28:21.960 boyfriend who you have a kid with didn't you say like he said early on that early guys would have

04:28:27.720 not the first day we met though so the second or third day yeah I don't know

04:28:32.480 lucas donated $200 later baby lawyer in law school for four years utter misery met submissive

04:28:40.200 greek blonde slash blue eye former eagles cheerleader before they dressed them slutty her father vietnam

04:28:46.200 green beret badass bliss yo lucas thank you so much man thank you for the uh big uh tts man really

04:28:53.280 appreciate it uh okay well um and so uh didn't you say though that you pretended he would put you in

04:29:05.480 front of the family and be like he asked me to go to a few family events and I didn't go but um the

04:29:13.120 one the one time I was going over there to get the tattoo it didn't happen that day um he introduced me

04:29:19.020 to his parents and then um another time he was giving my friend and I a ride back home I think

04:29:24.920 to my place um and his sister like like sincerely asked me she was like like what's going on and I'm

04:29:34.300 like I'm just trying to get a tattoo and she's like oh okay what doc venerbilly donated $200

04:29:41.200 sorry in late brixton here's a contribution to your prenup defense fund prenup defense fund

04:29:47.860 yo doc thank you so much man I really appreciate it uh means the world uh you've been a long time

04:29:53.740 supporter so uh thank you man thank you so much I'm a little confused because

04:29:58.460 were you trying to date him or get a tattoo just get a tattoo and I made that why did you go on a date

04:30:04.820 with him then oh because I was giving him a chance at first and then I told him I'm not interested I

04:30:11.540 just want to get this tattoo and I was very clear and respectful about that you know there are tattoo

04:30:16.880 parlors where you can get a tattoo without the need of having to date fake date the I I didn't uh fake

04:30:27.360 date him he had had asked me to and uh coaxed me to go there every single time upon the basis of

04:30:33.580 you're gonna get this tattoo today and then it's kind of like oh these things came up we're gonna

04:30:36.960 you know but I mean clearly it was a quid pro quo right like he wasn't giving you the tattoo no I

04:30:43.180 wanted to pay money did he accept the money no he wouldn't accept the money but finally he accepted

04:30:48.740 $25 in buzz balls and did it and it was perfect even though he was okay um you said he was a bit he

04:30:57.180 was a bit loony every time you'd show up to get the tattoo he said what happened he'd manipulate me

04:31:01.620 into joining in his shenanigans with friends that were actually quite entertaining I was very

04:31:07.000 straightforward with him the whole time but he was very delulu I got the tattoo finally and it's one

04:31:11.680 of my best most compliment which tattoo is it is it the is that a bird no it's a luna moth oh okay

04:31:21.340 all right um you also said what our our uh yo amos thank you for the gifted 20 memberships man

04:31:32.060 really appreciate it you said would our money expectations generally on the first few dates

04:31:37.060 wait what oh hold on lucas donated $200 so ladies wake up decide how you want to live a life bc

04:31:47.340 someone like me 25 years ago ain't touching any of you with a 10 foot pole any response

04:31:54.940 what are we gonna take a time machine like what does it matter thanks thank you lucas I do appreciate

04:32:01.400 that thank you um so okay you were asking what are money expectations generally on the first few dates

04:32:08.880 between heterosexual people I think we talked yeah but we talked about that okay uh and then also

04:32:17.440 first date with someone I wanted to buy some art from but gave him a chance oh this is the same guy

04:32:22.280 yeah three baby mama guy yeah okay all right uh let's see you also said give our child uh tell me the

04:32:30.260 first date well another first date you had he was an angel he told me loved me multiple times

04:32:34.760 and actually scared the fuck out of me same guy or different guy no no total angel though okay yeah

04:32:43.640 oh just very enthusiastic or passionate on the first date yeah dating is cool but it makes me sad that

04:32:50.800 lust in a relationship fits after 10 to 15 years I wish we were like crows and mated slash we're loyal

04:32:57.360 for life once we settled down yeah okay that's cool uh let's get into something else here hold on

04:33:10.660 uh I want to do this one uh so body count does it matter does it not matter I know what for a guy I

04:33:21.120 don't know if it's like let me change the question do you think it's if a man cares about body count do

04:33:25.560 you think it's insecure of him oh no no no I think it's valid say it again we weren't on you no I

04:33:30.860 think it's valid okay for him to care um it depends on like what his reasoning is I guess because he

04:33:35.520 thinks it's gross um no I wouldn't say he's insecure if he thinks it's gross wait what was the question

04:33:44.480 is a man insecure if he's concerned about body count I would be too if it was like over 20 with a guy

04:33:50.460 or well that's unrealistic but yeah no I don't think it is no no

04:33:57.840 somebody's phone

04:34:01.420 is that yours under no

04:34:08.640 it's over there yeah oh it's coming from the back okay no I keep mine on airplane mode

04:34:16.600 uh okay so sorry guys we had a little vibration going on uh what's your body count so I've never

04:34:24.660 counted officially but I know it's 20 ish 20 ish okay um 11 all right say like five okay uh it's

04:34:34.100 probably around 20 all right one one uh okay multiply it by three and that's the real number

04:34:44.960 yeah all right well you know that's it is what it is it's math it's a science actually

04:34:50.680 it's a science what's your body count I'm I'm a virgin no hey is the girl that bowed to you is

04:34:59.540 she the girl that went through your phone on the first date no but it was a different asian woman

04:35:03.900 do you only date asian women no I just have a type uh I mean I date white women asian women latino

04:35:11.140 women sometimes I was just like I can't picture that girl doing that I mean I date a black woman

04:35:18.760 and I just don't think they I don't think black women like me oh yeah some probably do come on

04:35:25.540 brian well you would know you would know yeah that's right uh but uh okay let's go through this

04:35:33.620 then uh I have to wait until she's back but um hold on guys one sec where are we leave my fictitious

04:35:42.500 black xy that is brian that is fair oh it's not a real thing I believed it me too andrew needs to

04:35:49.740 redo his hair by the way hair's fine we need to get that it's fine it's it's gone it's fine

04:35:55.500 okay that's it it's fine tussled it's nice it's called the pompadour pompadour it's good

04:35:59.120 the pompadour it's good all right uh okay question for the panel you're in the forest

04:36:05.460 oh andrew loves this one you're in the forest would you rather and you get to pick you can

04:36:15.500 and you you spawn randomly in the forest and you can spawn either a random man or a random bear

04:36:20.340 and you're gonna come across them which do you pick a man a man I think this question's so stupid

04:36:26.120 I want to see a bear but definitely a man wait what bears are crazy oh okay I was on a motorcycle

04:36:33.860 ride the other day and I saw a bear with my my man yeah it was huge it's kind of sweet scary

04:36:38.880 man man man okay easy peasy all right let's go uh oh can you not do that at the table um I have a

04:36:52.380 quick one for you so do you think a man or a woman would be more likely to tell you the truth

04:36:57.400 um I don't I think probably equally so sorry if you if you had to pick one you know what honestly

04:37:05.300 probably men because women tend to be more agreeable so maybe they would be like in some

04:37:11.060 situations more afraid of being honest maybe maybe men I agree with your point and it's funny you say

04:37:18.240 that women are more agreeable because I'm agreeing with you yeah don't men yeah women I think a woman

04:37:26.320 it's who's more honest no who do you think would be more likely to tell you the truth a man or a woman

04:37:32.600 man a man why did you two pick woman I value truth I don't know okay you think women would be

04:37:41.120 more likely to tell you that what is true yeah I do I think women are afraid to hurt everyone's

04:37:50.520 feelings yeah that's how like I would be honest and I'm a bitch but so I'll just and a little autistic

04:37:56.280 so just like I'm gonna be I'm gonna tell the truth but generally speaking I feel like women might be

04:38:00.760 kind of like I don't want to hurt your feelings like or at least soften the blow yeah with the

04:38:05.980 positive before the negative yeah I think a lot of modern men are kind of more sensitive and don't

04:38:15.120 want to be up front and uh there is the the curse of eve where a woman wants to rule over man and so

04:38:21.340 it's really easy for them to just say the truth and uh be open about stuff women

04:38:29.640 although when I was dating I never had a man like if it wasn't if we didn't feel you know like we were

04:38:39.080 had chemistry I never had a man like come out and say it I feel like I was always the one to say it

04:38:44.100 it's a hard question and then he agreed um because I mean you do realize that there's always the

04:38:51.740 possibility that I thought you thought that there wasn't chemistry and then after you told him he

04:38:57.480 went ahead and agreed oh yeah I think so too even though then he's still not being honest even though

04:39:02.240 he actually didn't think so I had a couple um well yeah I mean there's going to be incentives for

04:39:08.180 non-honesty sure yeah I agree we're just talking about um I just was the first one to be up front

04:39:14.280 about it like where men will just like stay in a relationship instead of breaking up with somebody

04:39:18.460 and just like make it miserable for the person until they leave women do the same thing oh I feel like

04:39:22.440 we'll just leave no they definitely won't that all depends kind of reflect my point I feel yeah and

04:39:30.160 they're usually getting divorced after years right yeah and and they cheat and they do all sorts of

04:39:35.060 different things to and they can just stay they keep you sort of the women right it's not exclusive

04:39:40.300 to men women will stay too but we fall for divorce more yes that is correct so I feel like maybe we're

04:39:50.900 more honest about like maybe in regards to how we view the relationship I just think they're more

04:39:56.020 sneaky about it I think they're just more sneaky and they they plan exit plans and shit like that before

04:40:00.920 they before they hit the the divorce filing I don't think that it's because they're being

04:40:05.420 particularly honest well speaking for myself I was honest I gave multiple warnings yeah but I mean

04:40:13.980 but generally speaking yeah generally I wouldn't I just think because of women's nature like you were

04:40:18.120 saying just the agreeable like don't want to hurt anybody probably overall and also like maybe fear

04:40:23.800 of like what would happen depending on what the scenario is but yeah

04:40:29.500 I also dislike confrontation so if anything feels like it's becoming confrontational or

04:40:36.920 not copacetic I would try to avoid

04:40:41.320 but the truth always comes out eventually in most cases

04:40:47.460 easier I've found with people to just be honest up front completely and then you avoid like

04:40:54.560 you know that bullshit later on I mean women lie to each other so much it's unbelievable so

04:41:00.440 they lie to each other about how they think each other look and about how they actually think like

04:41:06.760 there's so many times I've actually seen even right here whatever right oh girl you look so pretty

04:41:13.040 this and that she gets up and walks over and it's like oh my god she's such a slut not kidding

04:41:17.380 yeah I see it a lot too and it makes female friendships hard yeah a bunch of passive aggressive

04:41:23.040 liars right it's like I'm just just throwing that out I've not seen a lot of the real direct honest

04:41:31.340 like what's in your brain is not coming out and being verbalized to the other person like what you

04:41:36.000 really think some other version of that is what's coming out at least that's what I've noticed yeah but

04:41:44.040 then men will be like oh yeah honey you look great knowing damn well possibly to avoid hurting

04:41:49.740 your feelings they'll tell a white lie it could be the same scenario for women to one another I don't

04:41:53.640 think it's the same at all I think that you can I think even the woman can tell that he wants to

04:41:58.840 verbalize something different and they can even pick up context clues that that is the case

04:42:03.160 but I think it's far different you think women mask it literally look another woman in the eye and be

04:42:08.180 like hey girl and then get up and the second you get up they're both talking shit about the one who

04:42:14.240 just got up that is so common in fact that women themselves make jokes about it constantly

04:42:20.320 so yeah I think that I think that you can point to instances of men doing white lies for sure

04:42:26.300 but women just like kind of lied right to each other's faces it's wild I mean I've seen a lot of guys

04:42:31.940 like even my uh guys my my friends that are gay um like they are nice to somebody in person even

04:42:38.440 heterosexual uh and then as soon as those people are gone they're talking shit like telling telling

04:42:44.140 me exactly how they feel or they're just joking about somebody you know yeah I'm sure it happens

04:42:47.740 I'm just it just doesn't happen as much as it happens with women like I've here let me give you an

04:42:54.880 example you've probably seen a lot more men be upright confrontational with other men than you have

04:43:01.420 women I mean overwhelmingly and that requires some kind of truth statement right in order to

04:43:10.100 initiate confrontation there's going to have to be some truth there I'm mad because x thing well I'm

04:43:15.600 mad because of other x thing so uh I don't see women doing that very often so just pointing that out

04:43:22.920 I do want to go back to the bow thing really quick there's bow version 2.0 I want to change

04:43:31.560 the question a little bit would you bow for the perfect man yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yes

04:43:45.420 lucas donated 200 yeah thank you lucas appreciate it time machine are you capable of abstract thinking

04:43:55.020 point was that successful men age exist have expectations similar to mine but avoid you like

04:44:01.620 the plague bc of their insufferable behavior slash ethos if you thank you first first of all

04:44:08.040 first of all I was married I left my marriage there's there's no lack of a lineup begging for the

04:44:15.740 opportunity so I don't know where you get the idea that people like avoid me like the plague

04:44:19.280 stop the cap wait there's a what check my dms on insta wait there's a what in free second without

04:44:26.400 wait hold on there's a what a whole lineup erroneous erroneous of men who want what that act

04:44:35.800 literally try to get me to date them that's not there's no lackey I don't know I don't even think

04:44:41.400 I'm special I think like most women probably don't get as a woman you don't get the w until you have

04:44:46.840 the ring I had it just be yeah but you don't have it now yeah I haven't even seen in the dating

04:44:53.200 so long that's the l yeah but you don't have like the the ring because just because men want to fuck

04:45:00.720 you that's not the w I don't think that they want to just fuck me but I think well I know that plenty

04:45:06.320 of men want to date me I've just left a scenario with someone who literally was asking my ring size

04:45:11.460 already and I just didn't want to be with him but you're like oh all these dudes in my dms not

04:45:17.820 saying every single one of them want to but many of them have made them very made it very clear that

04:45:22.700 they want to be with me that that's just the life of a woman okay exactly this girl next to you says

04:45:27.480 it's easy mode for dating I literally just said I don't think it's just me I think it's probably all

04:45:31.700 of us have at least a handful but what he's saying that's your default but what he's saying is that we

04:45:37.160 that men think I'm talking about his comment can you stay focused he's saying that they avoid us

04:45:42.880 like the plague that's such bullshit who the fuck are you being avoided you might be because you're

04:45:47.560 married do men avoid you like the plague you no okay what are you talking about his comment so I

04:45:54.900 think I think to be charitable with the comment you can I guess you can be literal with it that's

04:45:59.720 fine but I'd be charitable to it I think he's talking about long-term committed relationships and

04:46:04.620 the reason I would say that is because he keeps on contrasting it with his right but I'm saying

04:46:10.000 like there's like two very recent options for literal like two people literally trying to move

04:46:16.480 me in and my kids I'm just I go slow but you don't like them so it doesn't matter but yeah not

04:46:25.180 enough to move in with them it's just early right but I would do it with this one person though

04:46:31.280 wait you're fucking two dudes no no no no I got rid of one

04:46:36.660 Johnny Spiral donated $69.69

04:46:40.660 daddy likes it when kitty says meow

04:46:43.740 he is a little catnip kitty now roll in it

04:46:47.480 give it a little kiss it's tasty isn't good kitty

04:46:51.720 such a good little kitty

04:46:53.440 sincerely Johnny Spiral

04:46:55.860 what the fuck all right Johnny uh thank you very much appreciate it

04:47:01.400 yo davon yakon donated $69 yakon

04:47:04.960 the men you want to join you like the plague you fucked your name up right

04:47:08.520 men you don't want is a much bigger L than you think it is

04:47:11.660 but like I literally have one that I want

04:47:13.800 that's like currently if a guy was like yo I approached 10 girls and they all rejected me

04:47:19.240 like that's not a W

04:47:21.260 I'm not rejecting one though

04:47:23.000 I've literally not been divorced

04:47:25.100 davon jackon that's your new name by the way

04:47:27.860 it's your new name davon

04:47:30.060 men will say anything to women to get in their pants

04:47:32.980 will they buy your

04:47:33.920 snap out of it and get with reality

04:47:35.780 the right man will tell you the truth

04:47:38.240 will they what

04:47:39.100 will they uh like

04:47:41.120 buy your new divorce

04:47:43.020 divorce lawyer and then fly out to

04:47:45.380 California with you and uh

04:47:47.660 a guy did that

04:47:49.880 yeah

04:47:50.320 that's the ex that I got my gun from

04:47:52.480 an old ex

04:47:54.720 yeah

04:47:55.320 he paid for

04:47:56.040 and

04:47:56.680 the divorce

04:47:57.120 the retrial lawyer

04:47:58.340 and did you guys hook up

04:47:59.320 yeah

04:48:00.580 yeah well then yeah of course

04:48:01.860 where's he where's he now

04:48:03.020 that's what you call

04:48:03.740 that's what you call

04:48:04.380 at the Airbnb

04:48:04.960 flown out

04:48:06.360 but

04:48:08.060 wait

04:48:08.360 never mind

04:48:09.020 no no no

04:48:09.420 oh so you came with here

04:48:10.480 well yeah

04:48:11.520 you came with him here

04:48:12.560 yeah

04:48:13.060 I was like yo come with me

04:48:14.120 you said you're single

04:48:14.680 okay

04:48:14.960 well I am single

04:48:15.960 you're literally gonna go

04:48:18.020 fuck a guy tonight

04:48:19.180 but we're

04:48:19.860 what's like

04:48:20.500 hold on

04:48:21.120 we're talking again

04:48:23.380 and trying to get to know

04:48:24.280 each other again

04:48:24.720 it's been like five years

04:48:25.860 but yes

04:48:26.840 I would I would literally

04:48:28.260 marry him

04:48:28.700 wait so when did you relink

04:48:30.180 when I had to get my gun

04:48:31.700 and then we saw each other

04:48:32.480 and it was like

04:48:32.820 over with

04:48:33.540 when was that

04:48:35.160 two weeks ago

04:48:37.520 like two weeks ago

04:48:38.220 how many times have you guys

04:48:42.300 been hanging out

04:48:43.420 so I saw him that day

04:48:45.360 and then

04:48:47.900 you guys live in the same city

04:48:49.540 no

04:48:50.100 okay

04:48:51.020 go ahead

04:48:51.640 go ahead

04:48:51.980 continue

04:48:52.400 then

04:48:53.080 after that

04:48:54.940 it was like

04:48:55.420 I don't know

04:48:56.180 he came to visit

04:48:57.000 for this trip

04:48:58.000 a few days

04:48:58.380 like so he came Friday

04:48:59.280 and then he's been

04:49:00.700 we've just been around

04:49:01.440 each other since then

04:49:02.180 just to see if it can work again

04:49:04.040 to like

04:49:04.380 you know

04:49:04.840 because it's been a long time

04:49:05.720 like are we the same people

04:49:06.900 do we want the same things

04:49:08.300 and

04:49:08.540 this is why I don't believe

04:49:09.960 when women say they're single

04:49:11.140 like they're fucking

04:49:12.200 at least one dude

04:49:13.100 bro

04:49:13.340 it's crazy

04:49:14.300 you said you were single

04:49:15.520 didn't I ask if there's a guy

04:49:17.140 in the picture

04:49:17.580 I don't know if you said

04:49:18.280 no no no

04:49:18.740 you didn't ask if there's a guy

04:49:19.740 in the picture

04:49:19.980 you just asked if

04:49:20.460 our relationship says

04:49:21.700 I don't want to say

04:49:22.840 I'm in a relationship

04:49:23.600 I'm single

04:49:24.300 but I've been fucking a guy

04:49:25.500 for a month

04:49:26.240 and we took a trip together

04:49:28.540 and he paid for my

04:49:30.280 he paid for my divorce lawyer

04:49:32.080 and by the way

04:49:33.200 I would marry him tomorrow

04:49:34.320 I would

04:49:34.920 because we have like

04:49:35.520 two and a half

04:49:35.920 we were together

04:49:36.400 two and a half years

04:49:37.160 the first time

04:49:37.780 I'm single

04:49:38.700 we're figuring it out

04:49:40.360 like we might not

04:49:41.020 end up together

04:49:42.100 so okay

04:49:42.820 how long you been

04:49:43.760 in Santa Barbara

04:49:44.340 since yesterday

04:49:46.440 okay

04:49:47.300 so have you been

04:49:48.860 apart at all

04:49:49.840 like did you go out

04:49:51.340 to get like a bite

04:49:52.460 to eat

04:49:52.800 and he stayed at the hotel

04:49:53.720 yeah

04:49:54.000 yeah

04:49:54.840 so if a guy

04:49:55.540 stepped to you

04:49:56.360 and approached you

04:49:57.940 and asked for your number

04:49:59.340 I'm not interested

04:49:59.380 in seeing anybody else

04:50:00.220 so you're not single then

04:50:01.400 okay

04:50:02.280 well if that's the baseline

04:50:04.560 but it's hard

04:50:05.300 you know like

04:50:06.380 today's standards

04:50:07.160 of what's dating

04:50:07.960 is like viewed

04:50:08.760 if you reject a guy

04:50:11.200 who you would otherwise

04:50:12.120 be interested in

04:50:13.060 you're not single

04:50:14.040 I think

04:50:14.640 but I also kind of have

04:50:16.280 and she taught me this

04:50:17.460 this idea that like

04:50:18.260 you're single until

04:50:19.000 you're married

04:50:19.520 and I think that's

04:50:20.880 a good point

04:50:21.440 what?

04:50:22.120 you're single until

04:50:22.900 you're married?

04:50:24.220 yeah

04:50:24.480 a lot of women

04:50:25.160 feel that way

04:50:26.480 stop

04:50:26.800 she belongs to the streets

04:50:28.220 back to the streets

04:50:29.140 you go

04:50:29.640 no

04:50:29.960 I only sleep with

04:50:30.780 one person at a time

04:50:31.580 imagine a girl

04:50:32.100 said that shit

04:50:32.720 you've been dating her

04:50:33.380 for three years

04:50:33.960 you're gonna propose

04:50:34.640 oh I'm single

04:50:35.780 back to the streets

04:50:38.260 it's only been a few days

04:50:40.280 okay

04:50:40.800 so

04:50:41.420 it's been three weeks

04:50:43.000 but you just said

04:50:43.440 until marriage

04:50:44.300 single

04:50:44.760 you just said

04:50:46.180 until marriage

04:50:46.820 single

04:50:47.060 yeah I don't think

04:50:47.880 it'll be long

04:50:48.380 I think it's a

04:50:50.160 real possibility

04:50:51.420 at least

04:50:52.240 that that could

04:50:52.920 be the result

04:50:54.160 was he dating you

04:50:55.280 while you were a stripper?

04:50:56.920 yes

04:50:57.220 yeah

04:50:59.460 how much

04:51:00.680 was your

04:51:01.280 retrial lawyer?

04:51:02.520 $5,000

04:51:08.140 but my stepmom

04:51:10.160 put a little towards it

04:51:11.100 so there's like

04:51:12.780 there's like

04:51:13.140 it's a lot

04:51:13.980 I can't talk too much

04:51:14.940 about the retrial stuff

04:51:16.000 either

04:51:16.320 and he paid for your flight

04:51:17.480 and the trip out here?

04:51:18.880 he did not pay for my flight

04:51:19.800 he paid for his own

04:51:20.520 oh okay

04:51:21.760 so he joined you on the trip

04:51:23.000 yes

04:51:24.140 okay

04:51:24.660 I mean that's not as

04:51:25.400 I suppose it's not as bad

04:51:26.760 you just reconnected

04:51:29.880 and he's given you

04:51:30.840 thousands of dollars?

04:51:32.080 well but we had a very

04:51:33.740 special connection

04:51:35.380 and since then

04:51:37.300 have not been able

04:51:38.120 like we both

04:51:38.600 special connection

04:51:39.460 so he's like single

04:51:40.240 two years after

04:51:40.980 I broke up with him

04:51:42.360 and then I got married

04:51:43.600 and then he dated a girl

04:51:44.500 for some years

04:51:45.120 and like we both

04:51:45.840 realized like we were

04:51:46.640 trying to

04:51:46.900 why did it end originally?

04:51:49.900 I wanted to move to Austin

04:51:51.460 and he was kind of anchored

04:51:54.220 in the Dallas area

04:51:55.840 that's one reason

04:51:56.680 also I had a lot of

04:51:58.240 growing to do

04:51:59.640 like

04:52:00.420 so you were a shithead

04:52:01.500 yeah

04:52:01.920 yeah

04:52:02.380 I really was

04:52:03.800 it like

04:52:06.600 and we didn't

04:52:07.080 like

04:52:07.540 but it wasn't

04:52:08.800 did he pay?

04:52:11.000 and did you

04:52:11.120 at the time

04:52:11.920 did you have any children?

04:52:13.160 no

04:52:13.280 and now you have two children?

04:52:14.900 yes

04:52:15.140 and he has zero?

04:52:18.560 he has zero

04:52:19.000 is that hard for you

04:52:22.860 to conceptualize Andrew?

04:52:24.160 well I'm going to explain

04:52:24.960 if I'm going to explain

04:52:25.820 this phenomenon

04:52:26.460 right

04:52:27.240 well no

04:52:27.880 I mean

04:52:28.220 I wasn't the ex

04:52:29.460 of my wife

04:52:30.260 sorry

04:52:30.740 but anyway

04:52:31.880 so

04:52:32.560 let me explain

04:52:33.520 let me explain

04:52:34.340 the phenomenon here

04:52:36.080 no

04:52:36.300 every single situation

04:52:38.140 is different

04:52:38.800 I'm not beating up

04:52:39.880 on somebody

04:52:40.280 for being a stepfather

04:52:41.220 but this situation

04:52:42.580 here

04:52:43.080 is

04:52:43.940 dated you

04:52:44.820 had no kids

04:52:45.620 okay

04:52:46.320 you weren't good enough

04:52:47.980 for me

04:52:48.360 gone

04:52:49.120 right

04:52:49.740 by your own admission

04:52:50.580 you weren't good enough

04:52:51.480 I'm gone

04:52:52.080 then

04:52:53.000 you end up

04:52:53.960 with another guy

04:52:54.840 end up having his kids

04:52:56.260 now suddenly

04:52:56.900 guy number two

04:52:57.880 who's the ex

04:52:58.580 is suddenly good enough

04:52:59.960 for you

04:53:00.420 just pointing this out

04:53:01.440 that this is a phenomenon

04:53:02.460 which happens often

04:53:03.380 it happens

04:53:03.760 but I'm telling you

04:53:04.480 it was always

04:53:05.180 this guy for me

04:53:06.140 like it was not like

04:53:07.400 oh I thought this guy

04:53:08.040 would be better

04:53:08.420 it was

04:53:09.240 this isn't working

04:53:10.040 this guy's totally different

04:53:11.300 so maybe that's what I need

04:53:12.700 even though I'm

04:53:13.460 crazy about you

04:53:14.540 this is just not good

04:53:15.660 and then I was like

04:53:17.580 this is

04:53:18.540 I

04:53:18.700 just

04:53:19.680 in all that time

04:53:20.860 we could not get each other

04:53:21.980 off the other's mind

04:53:23.000 and it was very mutual

04:53:23.880 doesn't you guy have resources

04:53:25.280 yeah he does

04:53:27.120 wait the

04:53:27.660 sorry

04:53:28.340 could you repeat that

04:53:29.000 the entire time

04:53:30.360 even while you were

04:53:32.540 married to your

04:53:33.800 yeah I was always in love

04:53:35.360 with him

04:53:35.640 but you can be in love

04:53:36.740 with someone

04:53:37.180 and not be healthy

04:53:38.380 and not want to be

04:53:38.960 with them

04:53:39.480 hold on

04:53:40.280 I'm sorry

04:53:40.720 no I don't think

04:53:41.420 you can

04:53:41.880 I think you can

04:53:42.840 no I really don't

04:53:44.020 think you can

04:53:44.660 I think that

04:53:45.280 I think that anybody

04:53:46.660 who would marry

04:53:47.420 anybody who is in love

04:53:48.500 with somebody else

04:53:49.280 is um

04:53:50.040 well I don't think

04:53:51.060 I necessarily always knew

04:53:52.600 that I was still with him

04:53:54.220 oh you didn't know

04:53:54.240 wait can we just not

04:53:56.000 hold on

04:53:56.340 I'm sorry

04:53:56.940 I'm good at turning things off

04:53:58.360 we need

04:53:58.500 I need you to repeat that

04:54:00.200 because I don't want us

04:54:00.960 to just glance over it

04:54:02.820 because

04:54:03.160 one more time

04:54:07.100 so

04:54:07.520 this guy

04:54:08.740 who's your ex

04:54:09.360 who you're now

04:54:09.980 he paid

04:54:11.740 thousands of dollars

04:54:12.760 for your

04:54:13.840 retrial lawyer

04:54:14.740 used to date him

04:54:16.580 while you were

04:54:18.760 married to your

04:54:19.800 husband

04:54:20.380 you were

04:54:22.160 thinking

04:54:22.880 of your ex

04:54:25.740 yeah often

04:54:27.560 during sex

04:54:28.820 no no no no

04:54:29.860 Jesus Christ

04:54:31.220 no

04:54:31.520 you probably were

04:54:33.500 no no no

04:54:34.280 I would tell you

04:54:34.880 I don't give a shit

04:54:35.780 no

04:54:36.340 would I admit

04:54:37.500 just about how much

04:54:38.460 you love this guy

04:54:39.180 wait

04:54:39.480 it took me a while

04:54:40.600 to figure out

04:54:41.260 like

04:54:41.520 were you talking to him

04:54:43.020 while you were married

04:54:44.080 um yes

04:54:45.540 my husband knew

04:54:46.140 but it wasn't often

04:54:46.960 it was just like

04:54:47.800 ever so often

04:54:49.440 bro

04:54:50.260 throughout the years

04:54:51.460 the here and there

04:54:51.980 red pill

04:54:52.460 massive red pill

04:54:53.800 and did you

04:54:54.720 have you dated

04:54:55.560 besides your ex-husband

04:54:57.220 had you dated other men

04:54:58.820 like in between

04:55:00.720 so like you broke up

04:55:01.900 with your ex

04:55:02.340 were there other guys

04:55:03.460 no

04:55:03.680 so is ex

04:55:05.200 husband

04:55:05.940 back with the ex

04:55:07.540 who you love

04:55:08.840 the entire duration

04:55:09.880 of your marriage

04:55:12.220 with the

04:55:13.220 guy

04:55:14.320 yeah so

04:55:15.940 sort of

04:55:17.480 um

04:55:18.140 after I left my husband

04:55:20.100 the ex had a girlfriend

04:55:21.560 so I

04:55:22.520 I did like go

04:55:23.660 on a few dates

04:55:24.700 with one other guy

04:55:25.580 um

04:55:26.740 but when I saw

04:55:28.060 my ex

04:55:29.220 I had to go get

04:55:29.620 my fucking gun

04:55:30.420 or else we would not

04:55:31.160 have ever probably

04:55:32.180 seen each other again

04:55:32.860 um

04:55:33.820 but then yeah

04:55:34.860 I was told the other guy

04:55:35.880 I was like hey

04:55:36.340 you know I'm not

04:55:37.060 with my ex or anything

04:55:37.940 but I'm just gonna

04:55:39.140 let you know

04:55:39.600 I don't

04:55:40.640 I can't be with you

04:55:41.800 after seeing him

04:55:42.600 or anybody

04:55:43.780 for that matter

04:55:44.500 so

04:55:44.900 I called that off

04:55:46.360 and now we're just

04:55:46.940 like seeing if

04:55:47.720 if it

04:55:48.400 if we're just

04:55:49.840 romanticizing nostalgia

04:55:51.060 or if it's like

04:55:52.260 a genuine connection

04:55:53.460 but I think it

04:55:57.340 like I would like

04:55:58.020 talk

04:55:58.560 and I would say it

04:55:59.240 to my friends

04:55:59.720 I'd be like

04:56:00.100 I feel like

04:56:00.780 he's gonna text me soon

04:56:01.900 and we went

04:56:02.680 so it um

04:56:03.320 it wasn't purposeful

04:56:04.540 that you went

04:56:05.040 to pick up this

04:56:05.740 this object

04:56:06.620 that you

04:56:07.200 that you needed

04:56:08.020 it was not purposeful

04:56:09.480 to see him in any way

04:56:10.580 okay

04:56:11.280 I didn't know

04:56:12.320 that he had the gun

04:56:13.180 for a few years

04:56:13.880 because at one point

04:56:14.700 and that's

04:56:15.120 I can't talk about that

04:56:15.940 because it's legal stuff

04:56:16.960 um

04:56:17.800 but anyway

04:56:18.360 he got the gun

04:56:18.960 again at some point

04:56:19.940 and when I was

04:56:20.700 with my ex-husband

04:56:21.420 I couldn't have a gun

04:56:22.640 because my ex-husband

04:56:23.440 was a felon

04:56:23.940 so it wasn't a concern

04:56:25.300 that he had it

04:56:25.920 oh

04:56:26.460 yeah

04:56:26.960 so you ditched this guy

04:56:28.060 for a felon

04:56:29.120 you had kids with

04:56:29.900 well

04:56:30.340 but he's not like

04:56:31.140 he sold weed

04:56:32.140 when he was 19

04:56:32.700 oh okay

04:56:33.080 it wasn't like

04:56:33.660 it was not like

04:56:34.240 a violent criminal

04:56:34.980 okay

04:56:35.360 he was

04:56:35.980 yeah yeah

04:56:36.400 it wasn't like

04:56:36.940 and he had his shit together

04:56:38.380 he's just

04:56:39.080 I can't say that either

04:56:41.340 um

04:56:42.180 but it's not like

04:56:42.700 what you're envisioning

04:56:43.380 when you were uh

04:56:44.740 saying your vows

04:56:46.500 you got married right

04:56:47.880 were you still in love

04:56:50.500 with your ex-boyfriend

04:56:51.900 I wasn't like

04:56:53.460 thinking about him

04:56:54.480 at that time

04:56:55.180 you said you were

04:56:55.980 well I probably was

04:56:57.460 looking back

04:56:58.240 like you can reflect

04:56:59.400 like I don't know

04:57:00.360 if you know what it's like

04:57:01.100 to turn off feelings

04:57:01.920 but when that relationship

04:57:03.420 didn't work

04:57:03.960 I just put it out of my head

04:57:05.120 for a long time

04:57:05.760 like a sociopath

04:57:06.000 it just took

04:57:07.660 you know

04:57:07.980 you can bury things

04:57:08.960 for a while

04:57:09.360 but eventually

04:57:09.920 they come up

04:57:10.780 and that's essentially

04:57:12.140 what happened

04:57:12.660 but it also came up

04:57:13.620 like because my husband

04:57:14.500 treated me awful

04:57:15.480 and I'm like

04:57:16.680 oh god

04:57:17.480 I thought that was toxic

04:57:18.740 before or after

04:57:19.760 the wedding

04:57:20.680 after

04:57:21.880 so he was treating you

04:57:23.780 well before you got married

04:57:25.040 yeah

04:57:25.400 weren't you treating him

04:57:27.200 awful by

04:57:27.820 being in a relationship

04:57:29.120 with him

04:57:29.540 while you were still

04:57:30.560 wanting to fuck

04:57:31.320 and be with your ex

04:57:32.200 again at that point

04:57:33.460 I wasn't actively

04:57:34.340 thinking about my ex

04:57:35.460 like this is just

04:57:36.360 something that kind of

04:57:37.120 you admitted that

04:57:37.880 while you were with him

04:57:39.960 right

04:57:40.380 this is post marriage

04:57:41.560 you weren't over your ex

04:57:42.700 wait so just to be

04:57:43.700 here's the timeline

04:57:44.520 so because

04:57:45.940 typically

04:57:46.740 you know

04:57:48.180 the further you get away

04:57:49.200 from a relationship

04:57:50.000 the less and less

04:57:51.400 feelings you have

04:57:52.520 you get over it

04:57:53.340 so you're saying

04:57:54.240 you break up with your guy

04:57:55.960 and then no feelings

04:57:58.020 there was feelings

04:57:59.320 for a little bit

04:58:00.080 but so how did it go from

04:58:02.180 uh okay

04:58:03.340 breakup

04:58:03.940 feelings

04:58:04.940 feelings

04:58:05.500 dwindling

04:58:06.980 and then feelings

04:58:08.280 whoa

04:58:08.400 thank you man

04:58:12.360 you endless stream

04:58:13.320 of fucking simps

04:58:14.260 that create women

04:58:15.160 like this

04:58:15.840 it's unbelievable

04:58:16.820 to listen to

04:58:17.820 get your shit

04:58:18.940 together fellas

04:58:19.820 I think you're

04:58:22.740 walking back

04:58:23.400 these claims

04:58:24.520 about your

04:58:25.020 so I tried

04:58:25.900 to invest

04:58:26.600 in something new

04:58:27.360 and I did successfully

04:58:28.540 put the ex

04:58:29.240 out of my mind

04:58:29.880 for a long time

04:58:30.720 as things got

04:58:31.820 tumultuous

04:58:32.380 between me

04:58:33.080 and my husband

04:58:33.720 it became

04:58:34.940 harder to

04:58:35.940 especially since

04:58:37.040 my ex is also

04:58:37.920 like reaching out

04:58:38.840 at this time

04:58:39.540 so it's like

04:58:40.680 reawakening things

04:58:41.940 so it just kind of

04:58:44.020 like came

04:58:44.480 and then when I

04:58:45.100 reflected

04:58:45.560 because I

04:58:47.380 can turn things

04:58:48.860 off

04:58:49.100 when I reflected

04:58:50.120 I realized

04:58:50.500 like I built

04:58:51.000 a whole life

04:58:51.600 subconsciously

04:58:53.400 to try to kind of

04:58:54.960 get away from him

04:58:55.740 this total

04:58:57.920 I'm just going to

04:58:58.520 be totally

04:58:58.980 this totally

04:58:59.600 sounds like

04:59:00.080 this guy's

04:59:00.520 a plan B

04:59:01.080 I swear to God

04:59:02.320 he was always

04:59:02.980 anybody who knows

04:59:04.400 me knows

04:59:04.760 he's always

04:59:05.420 okay

04:59:05.720 it's okay

04:59:06.660 I can leave you

04:59:07.280 behind

04:59:07.720 you marry another

04:59:08.400 guy

04:59:08.760 and then

04:59:09.420 when nothing

04:59:10.400 works out

04:59:11.120 this other dude

04:59:11.980 he's there

04:59:12.840 I would have

04:59:13.860 never left

04:59:14.440 if it didn't

04:59:14.980 get so toxic

04:59:15.680 at the end

04:59:16.180 with him

04:59:16.620 and it also

04:59:17.840 felt like

04:59:18.240 I was like

04:59:18.820 well I mean

04:59:19.580 but that just

04:59:20.100 reaffirms that

04:59:20.780 it was plan B

04:59:21.580 right

04:59:22.560 I mean

04:59:23.780 but no

04:59:25.080 no

04:59:25.840 it was

04:59:26.300 it's not like

04:59:27.280 I'm just

04:59:27.560 oh well I'm

04:59:28.380 divorced now

04:59:28.920 so I'm gonna go

04:59:29.280 because there's

04:59:29.640 tons of people

04:59:30.840 that I could do

04:59:31.360 that with

04:59:31.720 there's people

04:59:32.240 with more money

04:59:32.940 that I could

04:59:33.380 I mean I don't

04:59:34.020 know

04:59:34.280 like I'm not

04:59:35.120 inside your mind

04:59:36.080 I'm not inside

04:59:37.000 your heart

04:59:37.420 objectively

04:59:37.820 it's impossible

04:59:38.880 for me to

04:59:39.800 actually determine

04:59:40.860 your intent

04:59:41.480 do I have

04:59:42.740 kind of my own

04:59:43.500 thoughts on it

04:59:44.120 of course

04:59:44.660 it sounds kind of

04:59:45.520 silly to me

04:59:46.080 but the thing

04:59:47.060 is it's like

04:59:47.580 it's also possible

04:59:49.060 that you're totally

04:59:49.740 telling the truth

04:59:50.380 I can't determine

04:59:51.700 your intent

04:59:52.160 but I am gonna

04:59:52.960 make one prediction

04:59:53.840 right

04:59:54.840 100%

04:59:56.600 you're not getting

04:59:57.360 married to this guy

04:59:58.160 you don't think so

04:59:58.920 guarantee it

04:59:59.520 maybe not

05:00:00.040 I guess it'll be

05:00:00.840 up to him

05:00:01.340 because I'm

05:00:02.840 letting him

05:00:03.180 lead

05:00:03.540 yeah

05:00:04.800 weeks

05:00:06.900 you think

05:00:08.600 maybe you

05:00:09.240 could be

05:00:09.460 right

05:00:09.720 so to the

05:00:11.140 viewers

05:00:11.440 you got

05:00:12.180 two

05:00:12.900 massive red

05:00:14.360 pills

05:00:14.680 one

05:00:15.460 she said

05:00:16.200 she was

05:00:16.460 single

05:00:16.800 she's been

05:00:18.180 having sex

05:00:18.860 with her

05:00:19.280 ex-boyfriend

05:00:20.060 for three

05:00:20.720 weeks

05:00:21.220 two

05:00:22.000 they've flown

05:00:23.400 out together

05:00:24.160 we didn't

05:00:24.560 see each

05:00:24.780 other

05:00:24.880 he's

05:00:25.320 invested

05:00:26.000 in her

05:00:26.600 paid

05:00:27.040 for her

05:00:27.460 lawyers

05:00:28.060 but she's

05:00:29.980 single

05:00:30.280 the second

05:00:32.160 red pill

05:00:32.680 the second

05:00:33.300 red pill

05:00:33.760 is that

05:00:34.600 during the

05:00:35.300 course of

05:00:35.740 her marriage

05:00:36.340 she was

05:00:36.960 fantasizing

05:00:37.800 about her

05:00:38.440 ex

05:00:38.920 that part's

05:00:40.600 fair

05:00:40.740 that's red

05:00:42.400 pill number

05:00:42.740 two

05:00:43.160 that part is

05:00:44.000 fair

05:00:44.200 but the first

05:00:46.160 part is so

05:00:47.260 bullshit

05:00:47.660 because I am

05:00:48.880 single

05:00:49.280 because we

05:00:50.080 haven't agreed

05:00:51.080 that like okay

05:00:51.780 we're gonna

05:00:52.100 for sure do

05:00:52.620 this

05:00:52.880 we're just

05:00:53.180 figuring it

05:00:53.600 out

05:00:54.060 Johnny

05:00:55.000 Spiral

05:00:55.540 donated

05:00:56.060 $69.69

05:00:58.200 I love

05:00:59.720 you honey

05:01:00.200 and my

05:01:01.160 ex

05:01:01.580 I let

05:01:02.400 guys watch

05:01:03.080 me take

05:01:03.580 off my

05:01:04.020 clothes

05:01:04.420 while you're

05:01:04.980 at work

05:01:05.540 I can't

05:01:06.520 stop

05:01:06.840 thinking

05:01:07.280 about my

05:01:07.960 ex

05:01:08.420 and his

05:01:09.280 juicy

05:01:09.700 red hot

05:01:10.280 dog

05:01:10.740 good

05:01:11.440 little

05:01:11.700 doggy

05:01:12.280 sincerely

05:01:13.320 Johnny

05:01:13.960 Spiral

05:01:14.600 I haven't

05:01:15.960 danced in

05:01:16.400 like 10

05:01:16.940 years y'all

05:01:17.500 I don't

05:01:17.780 know

05:01:17.880 thank you

05:01:18.140 Johnny

05:01:18.420 oh there's

05:01:19.080 a third

05:01:19.440 your ex

05:01:20.820 was around

05:01:21.920 during that

05:01:22.400 right

05:01:22.580 or like

05:01:22.920 eight years

05:01:23.540 or something

05:01:23.800 like that

05:01:24.040 yeah

05:01:24.220 okay

05:01:24.700 there does

05:01:25.340 exist actually

05:01:25.980 a third

05:01:26.340 red pill

05:01:26.760 that Andrew

05:01:27.220 pointed out

05:01:27.800 and this

05:01:28.640 is the fact

05:01:29.160 that you

05:01:30.200 dated him

05:01:30.840 they're the

05:01:31.760 ex guy

05:01:32.340 you dated

05:01:32.800 him

05:01:33.140 he sounds

05:01:35.160 sounded great

05:01:36.140 but you said

05:01:36.740 there was a

05:01:37.240 move that you

05:01:37.800 wanted to make

05:01:38.420 and that you

05:01:39.360 were being a

05:01:40.140 shithead

05:01:40.460 there were a

05:01:40.900 lot of

05:01:41.260 issues

05:01:41.900 like it

05:01:42.720 mostly with

05:01:44.440 you

05:01:44.660 mostly me

05:01:46.760 yes like I

05:01:47.240 did the bigger

05:01:47.720 things

05:01:48.100 but

05:01:48.420 so the

05:01:49.660 bigger red pill

05:01:50.520 area is

05:01:50.940 that relationship

05:01:52.600 ended

05:01:52.980 you now have

05:01:54.580 two kids

05:01:54.980 from another

05:01:55.360 man

05:01:55.620 and you

05:01:57.640 are now

05:02:00.020 back

05:02:00.340 with him

05:02:01.520 now that

05:02:02.540 we don't

05:02:04.040 know yet

05:02:04.660 what Andrew

05:02:05.540 said

05:02:05.860 we don't

05:02:06.740 know yet

05:02:07.080 he has to

05:02:07.680 much more

05:02:08.020 eloquently

05:02:08.460 he has to

05:02:09.220 see

05:02:09.720 like we

05:02:10.380 have to

05:02:10.700 see if

05:02:11.200 he can

05:02:11.620 if he's

05:02:12.880 really willing

05:02:13.600 to take

05:02:14.120 on kids

05:02:14.700 and if

05:02:15.040 we're still

05:02:15.440 compatible

05:02:15.900 and if

05:02:16.320 we even

05:02:16.600 that's

05:02:17.920 not the

05:02:20.140 key

05:02:20.400 the key

05:02:21.640 isn't

05:02:22.160 what he's

05:02:23.180 willing to

05:02:23.560 do

05:02:23.780 the key

05:02:24.300 was when

05:02:24.680 you said

05:02:25.060 I would

05:02:25.420 marry him

05:02:25.880 tomorrow

05:02:26.360 yeah

05:02:26.760 okay

05:02:27.320 so the

05:02:28.020 key in

05:02:28.600 here is

05:02:29.040 like

05:02:29.380 just so

05:02:30.500 you know

05:02:31.100 right

05:02:31.640 if that

05:02:32.300 is the

05:02:32.960 case

05:02:33.500 no

05:02:34.900 there's

05:02:35.200 not going

05:02:35.560 to be

05:02:35.780 the marriage

05:02:36.220 why do

05:02:36.540 you say

05:02:36.720 that

05:02:36.920 this

05:02:37.280 there's

05:02:37.520 not

05:02:37.640 gonna

05:02:37.740 be

05:02:37.840 any

05:02:37.960 of

05:02:38.080 that

05:02:38.280 why do

05:02:38.700 you

05:02:38.760 say

05:02:38.860 that

05:02:39.120 because

05:02:40.120 you're

05:02:40.360 a

05:02:40.460 play

05:02:40.660 toy

05:02:40.900 you

05:02:41.720 screwed

05:02:42.600 him

05:02:42.780 over

05:02:43.040 and he's

05:02:43.480 getting

05:02:43.740 massive

05:02:44.460 revenge

05:02:45.240 and he's

05:02:45.700 having

05:02:45.880 he's

05:02:46.720 literally

05:02:47.060 having

05:02:47.480 a ball

05:02:48.000 doing

05:02:48.280 he left

05:02:49.080 a relationship

05:02:49.840 to get

05:02:50.220 back

05:02:50.400 with me

05:02:50.780 that he

05:02:52.080 had been

05:02:52.320 in three

05:02:52.640 years

05:02:52.860 he doesn't

05:02:53.020 give a fuck

05:02:53.580 about no

05:02:53.980 relationship

05:02:54.400 oh now he

05:02:55.240 left his

05:02:55.760 relationship

05:02:56.400 too

05:02:56.900 I have

05:02:57.760 boy this

05:02:58.320 is weird

05:02:58.940 what

05:02:59.760 wait what

05:03:00.640 he left

05:03:01.160 his relationship

05:03:01.780 what

05:03:02.140 wait he was

05:03:04.020 dating a chick

05:03:04.740 yeah

05:03:05.720 and

05:03:06.460 so once I

05:03:08.340 got divorced

05:03:08.840 it was like

05:03:09.620 so what

05:03:10.120 and then but

05:03:11.460 we saw each other

05:03:12.120 in person

05:03:12.460 and we

05:03:12.740 it just was

05:03:13.340 like day

05:03:13.880 one

05:03:14.320 and so we

05:03:15.200 both were

05:03:15.580 like we

05:03:15.960 can't

05:03:16.320 not do

05:03:17.300 this

05:03:17.780 so no I'm

05:03:20.980 not a play toy

05:03:21.560 I assure you

05:03:22.060 here's red pill

05:03:23.480 number four

05:03:24.100 you said when it

05:03:25.220 came to your

05:03:25.620 kids I think

05:03:26.840 you said

05:03:27.120 something along

05:03:27.600 the lines of

05:03:28.140 and you can

05:03:28.460 just restate

05:03:29.120 it if I get

05:03:29.540 it wrong

05:03:29.860 you're still

05:03:31.640 trying to figure

05:03:32.220 out if he's

05:03:33.060 like kind of

05:03:33.800 ready to take

05:03:35.120 on the

05:03:35.660 father role

05:03:36.740 well not

05:03:37.840 and not

05:03:38.320 right off the

05:03:38.880 bat but

05:03:39.440 like anytime

05:03:39.940 you date

05:03:40.400 someone

05:03:40.740 can you

05:03:41.480 just restate

05:03:42.020 what you

05:03:42.340 said

05:03:42.560 something

05:03:42.980 about

05:03:43.220 like

05:03:43.380 you have

05:03:43.580 to see

05:03:43.940 if he

05:03:44.500 can handle

05:03:46.200 you know

05:03:47.940 playing stepdad

05:03:48.920 how many kids

05:03:49.400 do you have

05:03:49.660 two

05:03:49.860 two

05:03:50.280 and how

05:03:51.460 old are

05:03:51.700 they

05:03:51.940 two and

05:03:52.520 three

05:03:52.720 don't you

05:03:53.720 think

05:03:54.040 having that

05:03:55.240 conversation

05:03:55.860 would be

05:03:56.780 appropriate

05:03:57.820 we've had

05:03:58.680 the conversation

05:03:59.280 before you

05:03:59.900 fuck him

05:04:00.360 again

05:04:00.620 no we've

05:04:01.140 had the

05:04:01.400 conversation

05:04:01.800 for years

05:04:02.500 the reality

05:04:03.580 but you

05:04:03.880 have kids

05:04:04.420 but hold on

05:04:05.100 you were with

05:04:05.700 your husband

05:04:06.200 I tried

05:04:07.380 to fall

05:04:07.700 for divorce

05:04:08.420 couldn't

05:04:09.120 because I

05:04:09.720 was pregnant

05:04:10.120 then he

05:04:11.480 got me

05:04:12.400 pregnant again

05:04:14.320 we'll just

05:04:15.160 say that

05:04:15.560 through no

05:04:15.860 fault of

05:04:16.200 your own

05:04:16.640 genuinely

05:04:18.160 no and

05:04:19.200 anyway

05:04:20.220 so I was

05:04:22.360 kind of like

05:04:22.860 stuck but

05:04:23.440 my husband

05:04:23.940 knew I

05:04:24.560 told him

05:04:24.960 like I

05:04:25.220 don't want

05:04:25.540 to be

05:04:25.760 with you

05:04:26.180 the second

05:04:26.980 thing I

05:04:27.260 can leave

05:04:27.660 I'm going

05:04:28.120 to I'm

05:04:28.660 in love

05:04:29.000 with him

05:04:29.880 so this

05:04:31.340 is just

05:04:31.600 what it

05:04:31.880 is

05:04:31.960 this is

05:04:32.240 the wildest

05:04:32.820 fucking

05:04:33.100 story

05:04:33.400 I've heard

05:04:33.920 this is

05:04:35.180 the wildest

05:04:35.760 I was never

05:04:36.360 not honest

05:04:37.180 about it

05:04:37.760 and so we

05:04:39.200 would just

05:04:39.520 text ever

05:04:39.940 so often

05:04:40.460 and there's

05:04:41.620 been times

05:04:42.040 where he

05:04:42.380 like one

05:04:42.800 time he

05:04:43.140 drunk texted

05:04:43.740 me

05:04:43.940 and he

05:04:44.780 was like

05:04:45.200 I've thought

05:04:45.660 an unhealthy

05:04:46.160 amount about

05:04:46.820 raising your

05:04:47.520 kids and I

05:04:47.980 don't know if

05:04:48.300 I can have

05:04:48.720 kids and all

05:04:49.320 these things

05:04:49.680 so I get

05:04:50.560 that you guys

05:04:51.880 have had

05:04:52.460 conversations

05:04:53.040 in the past

05:04:53.640 when you

05:04:53.940 guys were

05:04:54.320 used to be

05:04:55.140 dating and

05:04:55.960 you talked

05:04:56.400 about what

05:04:56.920 does the

05:04:57.180 future hold

05:04:57.780 are we going

05:04:58.580 to have

05:04:58.920 kids

05:04:59.280 you have

05:05:00.280 kids

05:05:00.580 now

05:05:00.800 we've

05:05:01.320 had these

05:05:01.760 conversations

05:05:02.220 since I

05:05:02.740 had kids

05:05:03.160 sure

05:05:03.400 that's fine

05:05:04.360 but you

05:05:04.940 have kids

05:05:05.520 now

05:05:05.880 what

05:05:06.740 conversation

05:05:07.560 is there

05:05:07.920 to be

05:05:08.180 had

05:05:08.520 you have

05:05:09.460 kids

05:05:09.940 right

05:05:10.580 it's

05:05:11.000 either

05:05:11.320 get

05:05:12.080 get on

05:05:13.380 board

05:05:13.960 why would

05:05:15.400 why would

05:05:16.360 you date

05:05:16.660 a guy

05:05:16.960 who's not

05:05:17.580 about the

05:05:18.520 kids

05:05:18.640 you can

05:05:18.680 conceptually

05:05:19.460 be okay

05:05:19.920 with it

05:05:20.300 but and I'm

05:05:20.960 not letting

05:05:21.360 everybody around

05:05:21.940 my kids

05:05:22.380 that's red pill

05:05:23.180 four

05:05:23.420 no no no

05:05:23.920 because you

05:05:24.360 can't just

05:05:24.760 let anybody

05:05:25.340 around your

05:05:25.860 kids

05:05:26.180 so anybody

05:05:26.860 that you

05:05:27.620 talk to

05:05:28.120 might think

05:05:28.640 they can

05:05:28.940 do it

05:05:29.280 but until

05:05:30.040 if they

05:05:30.360 don't have

05:05:30.740 children

05:05:31.160 they don't

05:05:31.640 know the

05:05:31.980 reality of

05:05:32.600 being around

05:05:33.040 fucking toddlers

05:05:33.720 all the

05:05:34.000 time

05:05:34.260 sure

05:05:34.680 it can be

05:05:35.240 overwhelming

05:05:35.700 so that's

05:05:36.500 what the

05:05:36.760 trial is

05:05:37.300 about

05:05:37.580 like you

05:05:39.460 think you

05:05:39.820 can handle

05:05:40.240 this can

05:05:40.800 you and

05:05:43.240 also like

05:05:43.840 you had

05:05:44.120 something

05:05:44.420 I just

05:05:45.720 wanted to

05:05:46.320 make sure

05:05:47.440 that I

05:05:47.980 reiterated

05:05:48.480 this

05:05:48.700 correctly

05:05:49.060 you can

05:05:49.400 correct

05:05:49.720 me

05:05:49.880 if I

05:05:50.200 am

05:05:50.380 wrong

05:05:51.120 you

05:05:52.980 you dated

05:05:54.640 you date

05:05:55.820 you have

05:05:56.100 Tourette's

05:05:56.500 now too

05:05:56.980 well I've

05:05:58.420 always had

05:05:59.280 Tourette's

05:05:59.680 yes

05:05:59.900 no no no

05:06:01.160 I have

05:06:01.680 persistent

05:06:02.100 motor tic

05:06:02.520 disorder

05:06:02.880 so like

05:06:03.480 just

05:06:03.720 not vocal

05:06:04.460 all right

05:06:04.920 all right

05:06:05.120 gotcha

05:06:05.420 so

05:06:05.620 anyway

05:06:07.640 so we

05:06:09.640 start with

05:06:10.480 when you

05:06:11.540 were doing

05:06:12.860 stripping and

05:06:13.380 only fans

05:06:13.980 you meet

05:06:14.300 this guy

05:06:14.760 you dated

05:06:15.700 him

05:06:15.940 you loved

05:06:16.480 him

05:06:16.620 you adored

05:06:17.140 him

05:06:17.420 right

05:06:18.040 but you

05:06:18.660 were a

05:06:18.940 shithead

05:06:19.360 and so

05:06:20.180 when he

05:06:20.680 moved

05:06:21.160 you guys

05:06:23.260 broke up

05:06:23.780 right

05:06:24.200 and this

05:06:24.660 was mostly

05:06:25.100 your fault

05:06:25.540 that's a

05:06:25.960 very short

05:06:26.540 version

05:06:26.880 yeah yeah

05:06:27.260 mostly your

05:06:27.880 fault

05:06:28.140 okay so

05:06:28.660 now you

05:06:29.200 enter into

05:06:30.120 your marriage

05:06:31.120 you get

05:06:31.680 married to

05:06:32.080 this guy

05:06:32.600 you think

05:06:33.880 he's great

05:06:34.400 at first

05:06:35.380 you marry

05:06:36.280 you're still

05:06:37.140 secretly pining

05:06:38.000 after your

05:06:38.580 ex though you

05:06:39.280 have buried

05:06:40.000 these feelings

05:06:41.100 and about the

05:06:42.600 time that you

05:06:43.080 get pregnant

05:06:43.520 the first time

05:06:44.360 that's when you

05:06:45.680 really decide

05:06:46.560 oh shit I

05:06:47.380 don't want to be

05:06:47.880 married to this

05:06:48.340 guy anymore

05:06:48.740 and that's when

05:06:49.180 the feelings

05:06:49.620 of the ex

05:06:50.380 really begin to

05:06:51.260 reawaken

05:06:51.740 well that's when

05:06:52.520 like all the

05:06:53.000 abusive crazy

05:06:53.800 shit started

05:06:54.340 to happen

05:06:54.800 but that's when

05:06:55.480 the feelings

05:06:55.940 for the ex

05:06:56.400 really started

05:06:57.220 to unbury

05:06:58.180 themselves

05:06:58.660 maybe after

05:07:00.060 that

05:07:00.460 um

05:07:00.940 it kind of

05:07:03.440 like unfolded

05:07:04.100 very slowly

05:07:04.800 okay

05:07:05.840 um

05:07:06.540 and then it

05:07:07.940 moves

05:07:08.360 okay got it

05:07:09.320 and then it

05:07:09.880 moves now

05:07:10.620 past this

05:07:11.640 to your

05:07:12.580 divorce from

05:07:13.720 the ex

05:07:14.140 you met up

05:07:15.900 back up with

05:07:16.460 him because you

05:07:16.900 wanted to go get

05:07:17.480 your boom boom

05:07:17.960 stick and

05:07:19.440 um

05:07:20.220 well he happened

05:07:21.160 to have it for

05:07:21.700 whatever reason

05:07:22.420 and there was a

05:07:23.440 little bit more

05:07:23.840 going on than

05:07:24.520 just the boom

05:07:25.120 boom stick

05:07:25.540 there was two

05:07:25.940 boom boom

05:07:26.340 sticks over there

05:07:26.960 apparently you

05:07:27.400 wanted so you

05:07:28.200 go over there

05:07:28.880 right you get

05:07:29.860 both of them

05:07:30.640 mandy vower

05:07:33.160 donated

05:07:33.660 69 dollars

05:07:35.120 this chick

05:07:36.120 has officially

05:07:36.800 made me want

05:07:37.580 to shit in

05:07:38.140 my house

05:07:38.720 that's right

05:07:40.780 so then

05:07:41.180 okay no

05:07:41.560 okay no

05:07:42.260 hold on

05:07:42.680 i get divorced

05:07:43.400 i'm like

05:07:44.480 yo

05:07:45.080 and he's like

05:07:46.460 well i have a

05:07:46.980 girlfriend

05:07:47.200 and i'm like

05:07:47.680 okay fine

05:07:48.420 wait wait

05:07:49.180 so you hit him

05:07:49.860 up because you

05:07:50.560 wanted to be

05:07:50.980 with him

05:07:51.340 i mean yeah

05:07:52.580 but he had a

05:07:53.440 girlfriend

05:07:53.740 no no

05:07:54.460 he had like

05:07:55.080 hit me up

05:07:55.820 over the years

05:07:56.420 saying like

05:07:56.940 oof

05:07:57.280 and i feel so

05:07:59.180 bad talking about

05:07:59.700 this because i'm

05:08:00.100 sure yeah it's

05:08:01.240 fucking horrible

05:08:02.220 like wait you

05:08:03.360 your ex-husband

05:08:04.680 you were having

05:08:05.700 an emotional affair

05:08:06.660 with him because

05:08:07.260 you were in love

05:08:07.840 with this other

05:08:08.280 guy

05:08:08.600 well and he

05:08:11.600 was hitting you

05:08:12.160 up and you

05:08:12.540 were actually

05:08:12.940 talking to him

05:08:13.780 and then we

05:08:14.960 fast forward to

05:08:15.760 when you're

05:08:16.140 divorced you

05:08:16.640 hit this other

05:08:17.720 guy up

05:08:18.080 hang on i just

05:08:19.060 want to make

05:08:19.340 sure i got this

05:08:19.720 right

05:08:19.940 when you're

05:08:20.860 divorced you

05:08:22.300 hit this other

05:08:22.920 guy up and

05:08:23.560 he's with a

05:08:24.080 chick for and

05:08:25.320 he's been with

05:08:25.720 her for three

05:08:26.120 years and he

05:08:26.580 left her for

05:08:27.220 you so

05:08:27.860 here's the

05:08:28.260 thing um

05:08:29.260 i was already

05:08:30.220 like done

05:08:30.820 with my

05:08:31.140 husband i

05:08:31.500 just we

05:08:32.060 were legally

05:08:32.500 married like

05:08:33.300 i couldn't

05:08:33.700 leave is

05:08:34.720 the issue

05:08:35.180 why couldn't

05:08:36.700 you leave

05:08:37.140 i don't have

05:08:38.000 any family

05:08:38.400 in the state

05:08:38.880 i had two

05:08:39.860 back-to-back

05:08:40.540 births and

05:08:41.900 like definitely

05:08:43.440 couldn't financially

05:08:44.200 leave couldn't

05:08:44.720 afford a divorce

05:08:45.500 attorney he's

05:08:46.020 also telling

05:08:46.500 me if i

05:08:48.720 left there

05:08:49.180 it was scary

05:08:50.720 okay okay

05:08:51.800 so i was kind

05:08:53.000 of just like

05:08:53.440 stuck for a

05:08:54.120 while and

05:08:55.440 um simultaneously

05:08:56.840 he had been

05:08:58.900 with the girl

05:08:59.380 for a few

05:08:59.960 years it

05:09:00.420 wasn't going

05:09:00.840 anywhere he

05:09:01.520 wants a

05:09:02.680 traditional woman

05:09:03.840 like someone

05:09:04.660 to start a

05:09:06.680 life with and

05:09:07.200 have children

05:09:07.820 and she didn't

05:09:09.140 want to do

05:09:09.420 that she wanted

05:09:09.800 to do the

05:09:10.180 boss babe i'm

05:09:10.820 getting my phd

05:09:11.480 no i'm not

05:09:11.980 gonna he

05:09:12.460 bought a

05:09:12.820 house and

05:09:13.700 he gave her

05:09:14.280 the opportunity

05:09:14.860 to move in

05:09:15.500 with her him

05:09:16.060 and live there

05:09:16.540 so like it

05:09:17.000 wasn't that

05:09:17.540 serious um

05:09:19.060 but they

05:09:20.800 kind of just

05:09:21.220 had like totally

05:09:21.880 independent lives

05:09:22.580 after three years

05:09:23.200 but essentially

05:09:23.820 what happened is

05:09:24.520 we found the

05:09:25.020 opposite of

05:09:25.500 each other

05:09:25.840 thinking that

05:09:26.360 would be

05:09:26.600 better and

05:09:27.580 then it

05:09:28.500 very mutually

05:09:29.320 like that's

05:09:30.360 that sounds

05:09:30.980 very romanticized

05:09:32.420 and like

05:09:33.140 i'm not saying

05:09:33.620 it's healthier

05:09:34.200 it also sounds

05:09:35.880 really like um

05:09:37.960 you're trying to

05:09:38.980 fit the pieces

05:09:39.520 together in

05:09:40.400 order to form

05:09:41.180 a narrative

05:09:42.480 that you like

05:09:43.520 right well

05:09:44.920 maybe but i've

05:09:45.740 talked to other

05:09:46.580 people and dated

05:09:47.200 other people

05:09:47.600 married other

05:09:48.000 people and

05:09:48.440 for i can at

05:09:49.620 least speak for

05:09:50.100 myself but

05:09:50.880 that's it's

05:09:51.520 not comparable

05:09:53.700 okay

05:09:54.480 so no but

05:09:55.660 so listen

05:09:56.240 so he had

05:09:56.860 texted me

05:09:57.460 actually a few

05:09:58.100 times and

05:09:59.160 i'm like um

05:10:00.000 you know

05:10:01.000 well if

05:10:02.660 are we gonna

05:10:03.160 fucking do it

05:10:03.820 or not

05:10:04.220 because i'm not

05:10:04.740 gonna do this

05:10:05.280 while you have

05:10:05.640 a girlfriend

05:10:06.060 so like you

05:10:06.700 have to get

05:10:07.080 rid of the

05:10:07.380 girlfriend

05:10:07.660 so then he's

05:10:08.900 like i don't

05:10:09.840 know it was

05:10:10.260 pretty toxic

05:10:10.780 with us

05:10:11.200 maybe not

05:10:11.720 so then i go

05:10:13.220 through a whole

05:10:13.640 grieving process

05:10:14.440 still with the

05:10:15.040 girlfriend and

05:10:15.580 you're the other

05:10:15.980 woman

05:10:16.280 no no no we

05:10:17.220 didn't do

05:10:17.660 anything

05:10:18.020 no no no

05:10:19.040 wait wait wait

05:10:19.700 back up

05:10:20.380 if you're telling

05:10:22.100 him if you

05:10:23.860 want me you

05:10:24.620 have to ditch

05:10:25.280 her you're the

05:10:26.360 other woman

05:10:26.800 okay so yes but

05:10:27.600 nothing's happening

05:10:28.280 yeah i get it

05:10:28.960 you're not

05:10:29.200 screwing him but

05:10:29.840 you're still the

05:10:30.260 other woman

05:10:30.680 right okay so

05:10:31.980 sure she was

05:10:33.720 she was borrowing

05:10:34.640 him for me really

05:10:35.700 but yes whatever

05:10:37.020 anyway i go through

05:10:38.820 a whole grieving

05:10:39.380 process i'm like

05:10:40.200 fuck this so by

05:10:41.200 the time my house

05:10:42.540 got broken into i

05:10:43.900 even brought a

05:10:44.560 friend with me had

05:10:45.300 the friend knock on

05:10:45.960 the door i didn't

05:10:46.680 want to see him i

05:10:47.660 didn't know how

05:10:48.160 it was gonna go

05:10:48.880 but i needed my

05:10:50.000 fucking gun because

05:10:51.140 you apply for a

05:10:52.180 gun mid-divorce in

05:10:53.440 texas apparently

05:10:54.160 they're not gonna

05:10:54.660 approve it until

05:10:55.480 after your court

05:10:56.260 date because they're

05:10:57.140 like you might go

05:10:57.700 kill your ex-husband

05:10:58.480 what do you mean

05:10:59.020 apply for a gun

05:10:59.640 in texas you don't

05:11:00.100 have to apply for

05:11:00.720 guns you have to

05:11:00.940 do a background

05:11:01.420 check and they

05:11:01.940 can put holds on

05:11:02.560 it yes yeah for

05:11:03.680 three days nope

05:11:05.400 yeah i did it

05:11:07.320 andrew so you got

05:11:08.140 denied no i didn't

05:11:09.340 get denied they just

05:11:10.040 never fucking did

05:11:10.740 anything what are

05:11:11.420 you what are you

05:11:11.940 talking about they

05:11:12.640 ran okay you went

05:11:13.680 down you filled out

05:11:14.340 your 4473 and the

05:11:15.200 people at cabela's

05:11:16.840 told me if you

05:11:17.660 have a pending

05:11:18.160 court date it can

05:11:19.060 take over a month

05:11:19.860 so i'm like okay so

05:11:20.900 then she loans me a

05:11:22.060 gun and it i when

05:11:24.520 the person breaks in

05:11:25.860 my house i noticed

05:11:27.380 the triggers pulled

05:11:28.260 all the way back so

05:11:29.060 i couldn't even do

05:11:29.880 anything like if i

05:11:30.640 wanted to and she

05:11:31.980 didn't know that by

05:11:32.440 the way um so i'm

05:11:33.840 like fuck and then i

05:11:34.840 was just like so like

05:11:35.660 shaken by the whole

05:11:36.780 experience i'm like i

05:11:37.780 have to go get my

05:11:38.420 gun so i did and i

05:11:40.280 had my friend knock

05:11:41.000 and everything and

05:11:43.340 then he looked out

05:11:43.960 the door and was

05:11:44.680 just like staring

05:11:45.420 and then that was

05:11:46.460 it that was it

05:11:47.460 yeah even though you

05:11:48.680 had been texting him

05:11:49.460 and everything else

05:11:50.080 for years like once

05:11:51.800 every six months or

05:11:52.760 something you gotta

05:11:53.640 keep those coals

05:11:54.260 burning yeah yeah

05:11:56.120 that's uh that's a

05:11:57.540 wild wild wild

05:11:59.180 tale i'm not gonna

05:12:00.200 lie wild tale but

05:12:02.440 okay i mean again i

05:12:04.440 don't you know i

05:12:04.940 don't know the intent

05:12:05.640 and i don't know all

05:12:06.820 the details for the

05:12:07.640 story but i mean it

05:12:08.840 sounds fucking

05:12:09.320 horrible but i don't

05:12:10.560 know all the details

05:12:11.440 so wait listen do

05:12:13.140 you still do uh

05:12:15.320 spicy content yeah

05:12:16.520 do you i don't have

05:12:17.960 only fans anymore i've

05:12:18.860 done private snap over

05:12:19.880 the years but not

05:12:20.720 currently oh well

05:12:22.640 somebody maybe i they

05:12:24.560 might not hear me

05:12:25.240 andrew but uh you

05:12:27.100 still have an xxx

05:12:28.200 snapchat can you just

05:12:29.300 say that you have an

05:12:31.420 xxx snapchat it

05:12:32.960 exists but i don't log

05:12:33.860 into it oh somebody

05:12:36.340 told me okay so you're

05:12:40.780 not doing any new

05:12:41.480 content anymore no

05:12:43.140 whatsoever no and

05:12:46.040 even like when i did

05:12:47.040 private snap throughout

05:12:48.200 the divorce proceedings

05:12:49.600 it was just like

05:12:50.380 recycling old shit to

05:12:52.140 kind of like i had to

05:12:53.640 do something no

05:12:55.780 because i did apply for

05:12:56.980 benefits and got

05:12:58.080 denied somehow i don't

05:12:59.700 know how the fuck that

05:13:00.800 happened i even started

05:13:02.240 a cleaning llc to have

05:13:03.380 something that i could

05:13:03.980 take the kids to work

05:13:04.800 with and got my real

05:13:05.940 estate license but

05:13:06.920 then all that shit

05:13:07.540 happened with the real

05:13:09.740 estate world where it's

05:13:10.760 like almost impossible

05:13:12.920 to do real estate now

05:13:13.980 so i mean you know my

05:13:15.840 husband my ex-husband was

05:13:16.880 not helping with the

05:13:17.860 kids i had to do

05:13:18.500 something so there was

05:13:19.760 a time even after

05:13:20.540 becoming a christian

05:13:21.400 yes where i was doing

05:13:22.340 like private snap out of

05:13:24.240 necessity because i don't

05:13:25.480 have like the family

05:13:26.080 members that i can call

05:13:27.000 and be like yo it

05:13:28.420 always out of necessity

05:13:29.480 it's like and like get a

05:13:31.580 job doing telemarketing

05:13:32.780 or some shit i tried i

05:13:34.080 swear i can't even prove

05:13:35.180 it i applied for so many

05:13:36.560 work from home jobs and

05:13:37.800 paid somebody to do my

05:13:39.640 resume even and but the

05:13:42.420 cleaning llc is getting

05:13:43.600 me by right now so

05:13:44.600 cleaning houses

05:13:46.260 mm-hmm okay when you have

05:13:49.920 kids to support you got to

05:13:50.800 humble yourself you know

05:13:52.200 i have supported kids for

05:13:54.100 it's honestly kind of

05:13:54.800 therapeutic though like i

05:13:55.720 don't dislike it

05:13:56.540 yeah okay all right i mean

05:14:02.020 i don't really know where

05:14:03.040 to take that story because

05:14:04.820 i think we've said all

05:14:07.420 point is to be said

05:14:08.480 people will fucking

05:14:09.660 commit it's not an issue

05:14:11.060 weeks just just my

05:14:13.900 opinion weeks you could

05:14:15.540 you could definitely be

05:14:16.340 right things like that

05:14:17.220 are so fragile anyway like

05:14:18.960 i'm not naive to the fact

05:14:20.140 that honeymoon period for

05:14:21.760 sure yeah i'm not naive to

05:14:22.980 that and then the revenge

05:14:24.220 will come you'll see it's

05:14:25.500 revenge i've implanted it

05:14:27.820 in your brain now and

05:14:28.680 you're gonna be thinking

05:14:29.200 i thought about that

05:14:29.920 motherfucker's right it

05:14:30.880 was revenge you wanted

05:14:31.920 revenge the whole time

05:14:33.300 that's not i'm not naive

05:14:34.840 to that he's sitting you

05:14:35.700 know he's sitting at the

05:14:36.580 airbnb right now and he's

05:14:37.740 like excellent but then

05:14:40.040 he went this motherfucker

05:14:40.920 just told this motherfucker

05:14:42.180 just told on me what the

05:14:43.640 fuck i don't i don't think

05:14:44.920 he would have left the

05:14:45.500 phd plus the shock on

05:14:47.080 actually everyone who knows

05:14:48.540 this is not going to be

05:14:49.220 shocked they all know on

05:14:50.580 both sides of our family

05:14:51.420 my whole family is already

05:14:52.640 like yeah yeah we've been

05:14:53.420 waiting for this shit to

05:14:54.100 happen all our friends like

05:14:56.000 everybody's no no one's

05:14:58.420 surprised but um it is

05:15:02.460 crazy i know it's crazy

05:15:03.420 though all right

05:15:05.500 i'm gonna go uh i'm gonna

05:15:12.440 go have a smoke i got

05:15:13.500 some more questions i got

05:15:14.660 questions not related to

05:15:16.500 that but all right that's uh

05:15:19.600 that's an interesting story

05:15:21.600 good talk good talk um before

05:15:29.340 i get into a few more of my

05:15:30.580 notes any dating topics

05:15:32.060 anybody wants to uh head on

05:15:33.940 it's been a year since i left

05:15:36.320 my husband and more years

05:15:37.720 than that really yeah yeah

05:15:40.060 you got something you got

05:15:43.680 anything what you got for us

05:15:45.120 um what you got a year before

05:15:47.080 i've been you've been sitting

05:15:49.200 quiet for a minute oh i've

05:15:51.220 just i'm just getting tired

05:15:52.460 that's why what you got for us

05:15:54.460 um i mean you got some you

05:15:57.380 got some things you want to

05:15:58.480 say well i need an opinion

05:16:00.620 first to counteract okay i got

05:16:04.100 some hold on one second okay

05:16:05.460 all right here we go uh i'll

05:16:08.580 throw out some hot takes okay

05:16:10.300 the accent's cringe never

05:16:12.220 uh so most men do not care find

05:16:19.340 you more attractive because of

05:16:20.780 your career success money or

05:16:23.120 academic achievement wait what

05:16:24.900 was the can you repeat it sorry

05:16:26.100 oh okay all right once again

05:16:30.800 most men do not care or find you

05:16:33.640 more attractive because of your

05:16:34.860 career success money academic

05:16:37.080 achievement i agree with that i

05:16:39.640 think most men value beauty any

05:16:42.280 disagreements disagree i'd say it

05:16:44.420 varies from men to men man to man

05:16:46.120 yeah there's some like synths out

05:16:48.520 there that like want to get

05:16:49.980 pegged i yeah yeah for sure but

05:16:54.140 like generally speaking i don't

05:16:55.560 think men care do you disagree with

05:16:58.200 that statement generally speaking no

05:17:00.020 i don't you have something well i

05:17:01.920 with my husband he's always stated

05:17:04.820 that he appreciates that you know i'm

05:17:07.160 ambitious and you know want to do

05:17:09.180 more than just i guess you know i mean

05:17:12.800 obviously i want to be a stay-at-home

05:17:14.380 mom soon but after that once my kids

05:17:16.480 are grown up i would also like to you

05:17:18.180 know maybe go back into my field

05:17:19.540 wait so when you uh when your kids

05:17:23.680 are grown up how many kids do you

05:17:24.820 want i would like to have like three

05:17:26.660 probably three or four three or four

05:17:28.620 and then when you say kids are

05:17:29.680 grown up 18 plus uh probably high

05:17:32.540 school age okay so three to four kids

05:17:35.100 so for a 22 year period of time you

05:17:38.400 want to be a you're going to be a

05:17:39.800 stay-at-home mom i would like to i

05:17:41.160 don't like to i don't know that's

05:17:42.820 what you want right i would like to

05:17:44.080 yes but he he also likes that i had you

05:17:46.660 know i have a background i have a

05:17:48.580 what do you do street i had an art

05:17:49.920 history degree history um and i worked

05:17:52.580 in interior design for a bit i'm kind of

05:17:54.800 in between right now

05:17:56.460 um

05:17:56.920 wait i'm sorry what's that right

05:18:03.080 art history

05:18:03.820 he's okay i'm sorry so what do you do

05:18:07.620 for work

05:18:08.060 i'm in between jobs right now i was

05:18:09.900 just i was working in interior design

05:18:11.820 i'm looking to continue working in

05:18:13.820 interior design but just between

05:18:15.040 positions and you have your bachelor's

05:18:16.820 yes

05:18:17.200 okay and your husband has told you

05:18:19.880 that he

05:18:21.920 is like he likes that i'm a well-rounded

05:18:25.820 person that i'm not just you know i

05:18:27.720 think he likes that i have ambitions

05:18:29.300 and would like to

05:18:30.320 possibly start a business in the future

05:18:32.300 it's just not the immediate future

05:18:34.240 2050 no no probably within the next like

05:18:38.480 10 to 15 years

05:18:40.020 when kids are in school

05:18:41.940 but you said you want to be stay at

05:18:45.240 home

05:18:45.580 well they're well until your kids are

05:18:47.840 well until the first ones in high

05:18:49.220 school

05:18:49.460 about you know when they're in school

05:18:50.780 so i could work during while they're

05:18:52.000 in school time

05:18:52.580 if that makes sense clarify well i mean

05:18:54.720 i get that

05:18:55.900 like i mean even me as much of an

05:18:58.560 asshole as i am

05:18:59.540 if i was talking to a girl and she

05:19:02.400 had some job

05:19:03.320 i'm not gonna like

05:19:04.880 tank my chances with her and be like

05:19:07.700 yeah fuck your job

05:19:09.020 don't care

05:19:10.540 i'll be like oh babe

05:19:12.320 wow you

05:19:14.140 our fucking secretary good job

05:19:17.400 no but ambition is

05:19:19.520 it's gonna be attractive

05:19:20.740 like for example right you know people

05:19:22.340 do these little lies

05:19:23.520 where it's like your wife asks you

05:19:26.260 do i look fat in this dress

05:19:28.200 and you're like you don't tell her

05:19:30.980 that you just you say like yeah

05:19:32.660 just a bit

05:19:33.280 no i'm just kidding but um

05:19:34.880 you say no babe you look great

05:19:37.520 you don't look fat in that dress

05:19:38.980 whatever

05:19:39.340 in the same way as a guy you can't

05:19:43.180 just shit on your woman's like if

05:19:45.060 she has a job

05:19:45.980 you can't just shit on it

05:19:47.600 you kind of got to be like

05:19:49.000 i mean andrew would

05:19:50.680 i would i'd be tempted to but i would

05:19:53.940 probably do the whole like

05:19:55.320 no you don't look fat in that dress

05:19:58.020 oh you work for some faceless

05:20:01.200 corporation that doesn't give a

05:20:02.680 fuck about you

05:20:03.240 congratulations

05:20:04.000 i love your ambition

05:20:05.760 no i would say that shit to her

05:20:08.740 face i'd be like i don't give a

05:20:09.800 fuck about your job

05:20:10.620 i'm pretty mean i do send my

05:20:11.980 breakfast bag

05:20:12.700 sometimes

05:20:13.480 i was gonna say my husband first

05:20:15.480 of all will say

05:20:16.240 tell me i look fat but don't do

05:20:17.780 that

05:20:17.980 no he will say oh you've gained

05:20:19.560 weight or something and i do the

05:20:20.460 same thing i think

05:20:21.100 wait your husband was like

05:20:22.500 your art history degree is so

05:20:26.160 no but sexy

05:20:27.760 no no but he he likes that you

05:20:30.240 know i'm not just sitting on my

05:20:31.560 butt all day just you know i mean

05:20:33.460 i think of van gogh are you uh i do

05:20:36.200 i do like van gogh i like post

05:20:38.000 impressionism

05:20:38.400 are you into modern art

05:20:39.100 not as much no i like post

05:20:41.280 impressionism i like baroque i like

05:20:43.300 renaissance era yeah i fuck with

05:20:44.680 baroque

05:20:45.080 you're an artsy person

05:20:47.360 not at all

05:20:48.460 not okay um all right uh moving

05:20:53.240 on

05:20:53.560 uh let's see

05:20:55.600 uh boy okay uh oh i have seen some

05:21:00.380 artwork done

05:21:01.340 by a woman in the studio about brian

05:21:05.300 though

05:21:05.600 i have seen some of that

05:21:07.140 i have a couple fan art

05:21:09.060 yeah but i saw a woman who was

05:21:11.160 sending you

05:21:11.640 sending you art once

05:21:13.020 oh yeah

05:21:15.000 yeah that's uh we

05:21:16.940 she was trying to win your heart

05:21:18.560 yeah we don't talk about that

05:21:19.860 yeah

05:21:20.100 uh okay let's see here let's i'm

05:21:22.660 gonna go through my stack then

05:21:23.760 we'll do a row session then we'll

05:21:24.920 wrap the show so

05:21:25.820 do you guys think that

05:21:30.480 andrew or myself

05:21:33.700 the grammar is totally fucked on

05:21:36.660 this um

05:21:37.340 andrew or me

05:21:38.780 me or andrew

05:21:40.260 andrew or i

05:21:41.080 i

05:21:41.680 andrew or i

05:21:42.820 andrew or i

05:21:42.840 do you think i

05:21:43.980 no what do you think me or

05:21:45.980 i do you think i

05:21:48.100 look i'm an esl student

05:21:50.180 english is my second language

05:21:51.720 what's your first language

05:21:54.060 french french

05:21:55.400 we we

05:21:57.460 okay uh do you think

05:21:59.280 i'm misogynist or do you think

05:22:01.540 andrew's a misogynist

05:22:02.820 going around the table

05:22:03.820 starting with you

05:22:05.560 miss clementine

05:22:06.680 probably more you

05:22:11.600 more me

05:22:12.600 you do seem like you're kind of

05:22:14.720 andrew at least goes down on

05:22:15.700 women from what i heard last

05:22:16.980 episode

05:22:17.820 that's what they

05:22:19.100 the whole thing about it

05:22:20.880 did we not catch that

05:22:21.940 i have never said

05:22:23.180 anything of the sort

05:22:24.280 it's ridiculous

05:22:24.900 ridiculous

05:22:26.220 i kind of came in late on

05:22:27.560 just repeat it i don't know

05:22:28.620 i don't think we had it on

05:22:29.620 you

05:22:29.800 so i'm more of a

05:22:34.920 just go ahead

05:22:36.020 well i'm just fucking around

05:22:37.620 but i said

05:22:38.500 probably you are more

05:22:40.340 misogynist

05:22:40.800 i really don't think

05:22:41.560 either one of you

05:22:42.120 i think you probably have

05:22:43.360 a bad history with women

05:22:44.220 and you

05:22:45.200 inflate

05:22:45.960 your shit

05:22:46.680 but i think

05:22:47.940 you know because he at least

05:22:49.500 goes down on girls

05:22:50.360 so he's

05:22:51.760 slightly

05:22:52.240 that's fucking disgusting

05:22:54.640 slightly less

05:22:57.100 i want to go home

05:22:57.840 women hating

05:22:59.260 wait because he

05:23:01.340 does that

05:23:04.340 yeah yeah

05:23:05.340 couldn't you be

05:23:09.020 trolling

05:23:09.480 what episode was this

05:23:10.840 what episode

05:23:11.720 was this

05:23:12.460 armpit hair feminist

05:23:13.200 armpit hair feminist episode

05:23:15.840 okay

05:23:17.640 well that's what they said

05:23:19.060 why would that make you

05:23:20.300 a misandrist

05:23:20.980 like would a woman

05:23:21.920 be a misandrist

05:23:23.300 if she didn't suck dick

05:23:24.580 yes

05:23:25.080 okay

05:23:26.680 this darn misandrist

05:23:29.040 this misandry

05:23:30.060 that's what next time

05:23:30.820 a girl won't go down

05:23:31.620 on me i'll be like

05:23:32.200 you fucking

05:23:32.780 fucking misandrist

05:23:33.760 but i think probably

05:23:34.760 i think

05:23:35.280 man hating piece of shit

05:23:36.480 i think probably

05:23:37.080 he probably likes

05:23:39.200 women more

05:23:40.920 the fuck

05:23:41.880 what is that

05:23:42.760 like on a fundamental level

05:23:43.960 at least i want

05:23:45.040 women to vote

05:23:46.080 that's because

05:23:47.340 that's because of how

05:23:48.120 much you hate them

05:23:48.780 brian

05:23:49.120 i love them enough

05:23:51.120 to liberate

05:23:51.700 i love them enough

05:23:53.280 to liberate them

05:23:54.300 from

05:23:54.880 such an atrocious

05:23:57.040 responsibility

05:23:57.680 you really don't think

05:23:58.380 women should vote

05:23:59.120 i don't think most people

05:24:00.420 should vote

05:24:00.740 i should not have

05:24:00.920 brought that up

05:24:01.640 well that's yeah

05:24:02.180 that's true

05:24:02.960 yeah most people

05:24:03.780 he's also like

05:24:06.220 just nicer

05:24:07.020 dangerous

05:24:08.280 to women in general

05:24:09.120 yeah

05:24:09.400 it's like the first time

05:24:12.840 this has ever been stated

05:24:14.060 ever

05:24:15.000 in the history

05:24:15.920 of the podcast

05:24:16.560 usually

05:24:17.180 i'm the good

05:24:17.880 usually yeah

05:24:18.560 usually i get labeled

05:24:19.820 as being the absolute

05:24:20.940 monster

05:24:21.540 and you get labeled

05:24:22.940 as the person

05:24:23.600 who's nice

05:24:24.200 well i don't think

05:24:25.320 you're like not nice

05:24:26.320 but i think your respect

05:24:27.400 for women is just

05:24:28.120 a little bit stronger

05:24:28.820 again this has got

05:24:32.040 to be a first

05:24:32.580 am i wrong

05:24:33.260 on the whatever podcast

05:24:35.220 am i wrong

05:24:35.400 are you gonna look at me

05:24:36.220 and tell me that i'm wrong

05:24:37.240 no i'm not wrong

05:24:40.060 look at your face

05:24:40.700 you know it

05:24:41.140 i just it's funny

05:24:42.340 because i like

05:24:42.920 i know andrew's positions

05:24:44.080 on so many things

05:24:45.000 but i like

05:24:46.680 it's just

05:24:47.120 you would find

05:24:48.420 his positions

05:24:49.080 i think

05:24:49.500 pretty upsetting

05:24:50.300 and that's why

05:24:52.080 i think

05:24:52.300 your statement

05:24:52.960 is funny

05:24:53.440 yeah but he still

05:24:55.880 treats women

05:24:57.140 like people

05:24:57.640 when they talk

05:24:58.180 like you can be

05:24:58.780 a little aggressive

05:24:59.400 and like

05:25:03.480 absolutely

05:25:04.000 fucking savage

05:25:05.020 but

05:25:06.300 but i don't think

05:25:07.720 either one of you

05:25:08.340 are just like

05:25:08.740 oh i'm sorry

05:25:09.000 that i don't

05:25:09.740 pamper

05:25:10.400 and go

05:25:11.500 oh

05:25:12.840 oh

05:25:13.780 my dear

05:25:14.540 oh you

05:25:15.040 i don't need that

05:25:15.900 you were emotionally

05:25:16.680 cheating on your ex-husband

05:25:18.400 and while you were

05:25:19.240 fucking your husband

05:25:20.020 oh i don't give a fuck

05:25:20.600 about that part

05:25:21.120 when you were

05:25:21.520 fucking your husband

05:25:22.420 oh sweetie

05:25:23.960 oh you sweet summer

05:25:25.820 oh my sweet summer child

05:25:27.520 oh you were thinking

05:25:28.660 of your

05:25:29.100 your ex

05:25:29.940 while you were

05:25:30.500 fucking

05:25:30.980 your husband

05:25:32.560 your husband

05:25:34.120 was having

05:25:34.720 he thought he was

05:25:35.840 in love with you

05:25:36.460 he was like

05:25:37.100 hitting it

05:25:37.760 but am i wrong

05:25:38.480 no he knew

05:25:39.620 he didn't think anything

05:25:40.440 i was very up front

05:25:41.480 like

05:25:41.720 autistically

05:25:42.740 direct

05:25:43.600 so he was

05:25:44.440 fucking you

05:25:45.120 and you're like

05:25:45.800 yeah i'm thinking

05:25:46.580 about fucking

05:25:47.320 i never thought

05:25:48.240 about my extern

05:25:49.120 sex

05:25:49.860 what

05:25:51.140 yes you did

05:25:52.140 no i didn't

05:25:52.920 don't stop lying

05:25:53.820 i'm not like a

05:25:54.740 visual person

05:25:55.480 why would i admit

05:25:56.400 any of this other

05:25:57.100 shit if i was gonna

05:25:57.760 lie about that

05:25:58.300 you're a fucking liar

05:25:59.380 no

05:26:01.080 but am i wrong

05:26:02.200 i have always

05:26:05.100 thought

05:26:05.620 that

05:26:06.620 the

05:26:08.180 a charge

05:26:09.520 that of how

05:26:10.220 horrible i am

05:26:11.160 to women

05:26:11.600 has been

05:26:12.180 wildly overstated

05:26:14.340 and uh

05:26:15.520 over

05:26:15.940 or not ever

05:26:17.300 contextualized

05:26:18.340 as to um

05:26:19.620 the fact that

05:26:21.740 all i do

05:26:22.340 is just argue

05:26:23.020 with them

05:26:23.400 the same way

05:26:23.880 that i would men

05:26:24.500 yeah i think

05:26:25.700 that's fine

05:26:26.060 i think the fundamental

05:26:26.760 like would you

05:26:27.840 play stepdad

05:26:29.020 for anybody

05:26:29.600 what does that

05:26:30.840 have to do

05:26:31.820 i just think

05:26:32.080 that he has

05:26:32.580 a little bit

05:26:32.980 more empathy

05:26:33.500 and genuine

05:26:33.940 love for women

05:26:34.540 that's all

05:26:35.000 i don't i don't

05:26:37.520 think being a

05:26:37.980 stepfather proves

05:26:38.760 that i think

05:26:39.500 i i think

05:26:40.500 if you're super

05:26:41.320 misogynistic

05:26:41.960 you're not even

05:26:42.440 going to consider

05:26:42.960 it what

05:26:44.540 i don't this

05:26:46.060 whole thing

05:26:46.420 about misogynistic

05:26:47.200 i want to like

05:26:47.800 kind of pull a

05:26:49.080 little bit back

05:26:49.700 from this point

05:26:50.260 you're making

05:26:50.640 because it's

05:26:51.100 one i hear

05:26:51.500 frequently

05:26:51.980 so this idea

05:26:52.940 that like for

05:26:53.500 example these

05:26:54.580 men who are

05:26:55.400 incels that

05:26:56.900 because like oh

05:26:58.520 you must hate

05:26:59.580 women because you

05:27:00.940 can't get

05:27:01.580 women the

05:27:02.520 most misogynistic

05:27:04.000 men in the

05:27:04.540 world fuck

05:27:05.680 tons of like

05:27:07.000 players are

05:27:08.480 super misogynistic

05:27:10.020 i agree

05:27:10.400 so this idea

05:27:11.240 that oh you

05:27:12.320 can't get

05:27:12.780 women

05:27:13.160 no i'm not

05:27:13.740 saying you

05:27:14.060 can't

05:27:14.280 no i'm not

05:27:14.680 that's not

05:27:15.040 what i'm

05:27:15.320 saying but

05:27:16.020 i'm kind of

05:27:16.440 pulling it

05:27:16.920 back from

05:27:17.480 oh well you

05:27:18.540 wouldn't do

05:27:19.100 this so

05:27:20.520 therefore like

05:27:21.780 i wouldn't be

05:27:22.220 a stepfather

05:27:22.820 therefore i have

05:27:23.880 less empathy

05:27:24.540 for women

05:27:25.160 so it's

05:27:26.200 like oh

05:27:26.660 it's kind

05:27:27.620 of the

05:27:27.820 similar

05:27:28.040 argument

05:27:28.440 as oh

05:27:29.960 you can't

05:27:30.480 get these

05:27:31.140 men who

05:27:31.560 can't get

05:27:32.160 women or

05:27:32.580 don't have

05:27:32.900 success with

05:27:33.360 women and

05:27:33.820 they're more

05:27:35.860 inclined towards

05:27:36.680 misogyny it's

05:27:37.840 actually the

05:27:38.320 player dudes it's

05:27:39.580 the guys who

05:27:40.240 actually get

05:27:41.020 women and see

05:27:41.980 how y'all move

05:27:42.840 those are the

05:27:43.800 real misogynists

05:27:45.180 no i i

05:27:46.200 trust me

05:27:46.840 no i agree

05:27:47.300 with you on

05:27:47.980 that trust

05:27:48.940 but i just

05:27:49.300 think his

05:27:49.920 fundamental values

05:27:51.420 probably come

05:27:52.400 from a place

05:27:53.120 of love for

05:27:53.860 women and

05:27:55.000 religion i

05:27:56.080 think and i

05:27:57.320 think some of

05:27:57.740 them are

05:27:58.020 inflated for

05:27:58.760 views and i

05:27:59.540 think that i

05:28:00.600 think you

05:28:00.960 probably have

05:28:01.760 no no that i

05:28:02.780 do reject i

05:28:04.040 think i always

05:28:04.700 felt like i was

05:28:05.360 very honest

05:28:06.220 well about my

05:28:07.400 actual views let

05:28:08.620 me put it like

05:28:09.060 this i think that

05:28:09.760 people who view

05:28:10.420 the show probably

05:28:11.180 expect you to be

05:28:11.860 more of an

05:28:12.240 asshole to women

05:28:12.820 than you actually

05:28:13.360 are and i

05:28:14.320 think that brian

05:28:15.340 you probably have

05:28:15.800 a very fundamental

05:28:16.720 deeply rooted

05:28:18.760 resentment towards

05:28:21.400 women what

05:28:22.440 evidence do

05:28:22.980 you have for

05:28:23.300 that with

05:28:24.600 the weight well

05:28:25.100 okay so the

05:28:25.640 last time i was

05:28:26.100 here you talked

05:28:26.480 about how you

05:28:28.160 know like men

05:28:29.180 might have to try

05:28:30.300 five different

05:28:31.280 dates with women

05:28:31.840 before they get

05:28:32.520 approved and the

05:28:33.360 way you talked

05:28:33.920 about it and you

05:28:34.660 even said it was

05:28:35.140 personal experience

05:28:35.800 too and there

05:28:36.140 was just such

05:28:36.840 resentment in the

05:28:38.560 tone also what

05:28:39.920 did i say was

05:28:41.120 it vitriol was

05:28:42.580 he being vitriolic

05:28:43.540 i don't know how

05:28:45.520 like i don't know

05:28:46.660 how to explain it

05:28:47.400 but you definitely

05:28:48.500 have some walls up

05:28:49.260 with women for sure

05:28:50.240 but i don't think

05:28:51.460 either one of you

05:28:52.020 are inherently

05:28:52.460 misogynistic i don't

05:28:55.200 even know what

05:28:55.520 that means i have

05:28:57.020 walls up with

05:28:57.480 women what i what

05:28:59.200 what does that

05:29:00.040 mean i don't know

05:29:02.260 i think that maybe

05:29:02.920 when you were do

05:29:03.700 you want me to do

05:29:04.440 you really want me

05:29:05.100 to give a psycho

05:29:06.540 analysis i can't

05:29:08.500 wait yeah go ahead

05:29:09.600 i'll i'll entertain

05:29:10.720 this you're just

05:29:12.900 gonna argue it i

05:29:14.620 don't know i think

05:29:14.980 maybe when you were

05:29:15.780 younger you probably

05:29:16.780 got rejected a good

05:29:18.180 bit and also maybe

05:29:19.280 somebody very deeply

05:29:20.100 hurt you and it

05:29:21.680 could be very

05:29:22.300 genuine a genuine

05:29:24.740 analysis of that

05:29:25.680 negative aspects of

05:29:26.720 women

05:29:26.960 brian who hurt you

05:29:32.080 who hurt you brian

05:29:34.760 also the fact that

05:29:36.020 you like the crazy

05:29:36.740 bitches too

05:29:37.400 what are you

05:29:39.200 actually a girl

05:29:39.920 went through your

05:29:40.660 phone on the first

05:29:41.700 date and you were

05:29:42.300 with her for five

05:29:42.980 years after oh my

05:29:45.400 god be so for real

05:29:46.340 i don't like crazy

05:29:47.780 bitches why did you

05:29:49.360 stay with one for so

05:29:50.240 long first off i was

05:29:51.260 incredibly young and

05:29:53.300 maybe you don't now

05:29:54.240 absolutely not no i

05:29:56.860 can i can i can buy

05:29:57.780 that yeah you know

05:30:00.420 you have learning

05:30:01.000 experiences you're like

05:30:02.280 when you're young

05:30:03.080 especially men like you

05:30:05.360 don't know what crazy

05:30:06.180 is until you land on

05:30:07.380 it that's true and

05:30:08.660 then this is like

05:30:09.980 fucking reverse

05:30:11.080 so bizarro land

05:30:12.220 but am i wrong like

05:30:14.680 well no i think

05:30:15.520 you're wrong he's

05:30:16.740 brian's actually super

05:30:18.240 nice he's super nice

05:30:19.320 to everybody so you

05:30:20.000 think i've never seen

05:30:20.800 him not actually nice

05:30:21.900 sometimes because he's

05:30:23.520 like you he has he

05:30:24.820 has you have like

05:30:25.980 weirdtism but he has

05:30:27.100 ocd oh actually so

05:30:28.880 sometimes he'll be like

05:30:30.400 that makes sense

05:30:31.140 sometimes sometimes he

05:30:32.580 gets a little tilted

05:30:33.520 or as he puts it right

05:30:35.060 he gets he gets a little

05:30:35.900 upset when his show

05:30:37.040 doesn't go all perfect

05:30:38.080 because of his dumb

05:30:38.900 ass ocd uh but no

05:30:40.880 he's uh i can see

05:30:41.980 yeah he's definitely

05:30:42.640 not so yeah so you

05:30:45.160 think you're more

05:30:45.840 misogynistic out of

05:30:46.800 the two oh most

05:30:48.000 definitely really most

05:30:49.680 definitely well in fact

05:30:53.160 i don't even run from

05:30:53.740 the label like uh for

05:30:55.840 modern feminists

05:30:56.620 especially they

05:30:57.200 absolutely well y'all

05:30:57.860 just gave the answers

05:30:58.620 absolutely how they

05:31:00.140 gonna answer objectively

05:31:01.040 like absolutely modern

05:31:02.360 feminists should

05:31:03.120 absolutely consider me to

05:31:04.300 be a misogynist by all

05:31:05.700 by all means i think

05:31:06.920 from their perspective

05:31:07.540 i'm sure yeah from

05:31:08.560 their perspective they

05:31:09.300 absolutely should

05:31:10.060 but i don't think

05:31:10.440 that's like who you

05:31:11.600 are fundamentally i

05:31:12.320 don't think that's

05:31:12.820 true no i think that

05:31:14.940 they're fucking evil

05:31:15.840 drag scumbag fucking

05:31:17.200 horrible human beings

05:31:18.820 and i'm i'm glad that

05:31:20.820 they see me as a

05:31:21.880 complete and total

05:31:22.520 rejection of that

05:31:23.440 like that makes me

05:31:24.880 super happy that means

05:31:25.780 i'm doing my job

05:31:26.440 correctly maybe it's

05:31:28.140 just because i'm like

05:31:28.780 a little red-pilled but

05:31:29.660 i don't think that

05:31:30.380 makes you misogynistic

05:31:31.460 in reality no but

05:31:34.960 fundamentally from

05:31:35.720 their perspective yes

05:31:36.580 for sure for sure he

05:31:38.140 would be the nice

05:31:38.680 one remember i'm

05:31:40.940 the hands-maid's

05:31:41.600 tail guy right

05:31:42.400 fascism i just i

05:31:44.280 don't see i don't

05:31:45.380 even get this though

05:31:46.160 like because if you

05:31:46.820 actually this idea

05:31:48.480 that because i've been

05:31:49.680 rejected like this

05:31:50.980 is that that this

05:31:53.060 has been sort of the

05:31:55.000 genesis of what you

05:31:56.140 allege to be

05:31:56.780 misogyny hold on

05:31:57.820 okay hold on

05:31:58.740 zip it zip it good

05:32:01.380 okay so it's so

05:32:03.300 misogynist so

05:32:04.260 misogynist um don't

05:32:06.240 even treat them like

05:32:06.720 they're people it's

05:32:07.220 really interesting

05:32:07.760 because i feel like

05:32:08.480 this is actually much

05:32:09.700 more uh a common

05:32:11.880 occurrence in women

05:32:12.680 a woman gets at 18

05:32:15.220 the amount of 18 year

05:32:16.800 old women mind you

05:32:17.920 i'm 35 i've had a lot

05:32:20.280 of experience with

05:32:20.980 women and for

05:32:21.900 example i'll still say

05:32:22.800 that i love women i

05:32:24.460 think women are great

05:32:25.320 and uh i don't

05:32:27.140 always understand

05:32:27.860 them can't always

05:32:30.100 reason with them

05:32:30.800 can't always logic

05:32:31.820 with them but uh

05:32:33.480 still love them uh

05:32:35.500 got a sister got a

05:32:36.760 mom as opposed to

05:32:37.940 me who genuinely

05:32:39.120 thinks that most

05:32:39.900 modern women are just

05:32:40.800 fucking awful don't

05:32:42.440 say that andrew

05:32:43.360 hide your misogyny

05:32:44.540 hide the misogyny

05:32:45.560 yeah but you know

05:32:46.200 what in my defense

05:32:47.080 most modern women

05:32:48.380 also think most

05:32:49.360 modern women are

05:32:50.080 fucking awful just

05:32:51.040 to be totally

05:32:51.580 and i think but at

05:32:52.800 least but but

05:32:54.960 finish my point

05:32:55.780 here is that you

05:32:57.560 got 18 year old

05:32:58.620 women who have

05:32:59.220 like one bad

05:33:00.340 dating experience

05:33:01.100 with a guy they

05:33:01.700 get fucked and

05:33:02.320 chucked some guy

05:33:03.380 they really liked

05:33:04.200 fucks them and

05:33:05.700 ghosts right that

05:33:08.340 gives them a

05:33:10.160 carte blanche to

05:33:11.380 essentially become

05:33:12.320 full-blown

05:33:13.020 misandrist man

05:33:14.320 haters men are

05:33:15.280 trash uh i'm

05:33:18.320 trying to think

05:33:18.620 all men are the

05:33:19.120 same no they're

05:33:20.580 like this is

05:33:22.040 every man cheats

05:33:22.520 women will say

05:33:23.460 this like if i

05:33:24.720 were to say

05:33:25.120 women are trash

05:33:25.920 not a word i've

05:33:26.880 ever said i've

05:33:28.060 never said it

05:33:28.740 people think i've

05:33:29.520 got the most

05:33:29.960 toxic misogynist

05:33:31.020 podcast i've never

05:33:32.460 said women are

05:33:33.100 trash i don't

05:33:33.920 believe it 18

05:33:35.360 year old women

05:33:35.920 who've had one

05:33:36.720 bad dating

05:33:37.360 experience where

05:33:38.320 they fucked a

05:33:38.840 guy out of their

05:33:39.320 league and he

05:33:40.040 didn't call her

05:33:40.600 back men are

05:33:42.240 trash they dye

05:33:43.200 their hair fucking

05:33:43.820 pink they get a

05:33:44.540 septum piercing

05:33:45.180 boom instant like

05:33:46.800 that i have been

05:33:48.220 rejected certainly

05:33:49.540 that's the genesis

05:33:50.900 and story of almost

05:33:52.340 every single man

05:33:53.600 sure because

05:33:54.520 we're the

05:33:54.880 initiators see

05:33:57.020 you guys i

05:33:57.580 don't disagree

05:33:58.060 you guys get to

05:33:58.780 walk through life

05:33:59.680 on easy mode

05:34:00.700 you have dating

05:34:01.860 on recruit mode

05:34:02.860 you never as a

05:34:04.140 woman have to

05:34:05.000 really deal with

05:34:06.160 rejection the same

05:34:07.400 way men do i

05:34:08.820 agree yeah but

05:34:10.240 the emotion when

05:34:11.300 you say that tells

05:34:12.920 me there's something

05:34:13.580 a little bit

05:34:14.060 resentful there

05:34:14.920 just because i'm

05:34:16.820 speaking in an

05:34:17.820 impassioned way i

05:34:20.420 don't think you

05:34:20.980 can you can

05:34:22.220 infer anything

05:34:23.220 from that just

05:34:23.900 because i'm

05:34:24.320 speaking impassionately

05:34:25.480 but you're asking

05:34:25.940 people who don't

05:34:26.560 know you guys so

05:34:27.660 that's all we can

05:34:28.560 infer from but i

05:34:30.280 want to say

05:34:30.820 if i was speaking

05:34:31.600 if i said this

05:34:32.500 monotone which i

05:34:34.640 normally am to

05:34:35.720 begin with that

05:34:36.760 would be maybe

05:34:39.820 but it's just a

05:34:41.120 feeling that i get

05:34:42.160 and i haven't heard

05:34:42.920 you tell me how

05:34:43.880 you feel yeah it's

05:34:45.700 just a what can we

05:34:46.560 base it off of

05:34:47.240 otherwise like we

05:34:48.460 don't have okay

05:34:49.260 so here i can

05:34:50.560 infer i can infer

05:34:52.400 shows because

05:34:53.640 between you two

05:34:55.200 you're a stripper

05:34:55.980 because you used to

05:34:57.140 be a sex worker you

05:34:58.360 probably have contempt

05:34:59.200 for men because

05:35:00.020 every single stripper

05:35:01.100 i've talked to and

05:35:02.280 every sex worker i've

05:35:03.420 talked to because of

05:35:04.480 their experiences with

05:35:05.720 men they have very

05:35:07.440 poor uh assessments

05:35:09.820 well you'd be right

05:35:11.080 we we all base life

05:35:12.600 off of our frame of

05:35:14.140 reference and our

05:35:15.320 individual experiences

05:35:16.180 now i love men

05:35:17.080 and even as a

05:35:18.620 dancer i was very

05:35:19.520 like men get

05:35:21.240 fucked in divorces

05:35:22.100 men suicide rates

05:35:23.280 like i've always

05:35:23.820 been that way

05:35:24.700 and um but but

05:35:27.140 it wouldn't be

05:35:27.580 unfair for you to

05:35:28.340 think that when you

05:35:29.140 have no other

05:35:29.780 context i would

05:35:30.520 understand all right

05:35:31.940 well i'm gonna move

05:35:33.520 it on to the rest of

05:35:34.280 the panel because

05:35:35.160 you talk a lot

05:35:36.480 y'all talk to me

05:35:38.000 y'all ask me the

05:35:38.920 most well because i'm

05:35:39.760 trying to go around

05:35:40.360 the table and then

05:35:41.160 you're like well let

05:35:41.820 me just psychoanalyze

05:35:42.900 you brian do you

05:35:43.920 think me and andrew

05:35:44.580 are misogynist

05:35:45.340 um does

05:35:46.400 misogynist like do

05:35:47.480 you mean like woman

05:35:48.220 hater by that uh just

05:35:50.080 mean that you think

05:35:51.140 that men are superior

05:35:51.840 to women oh yeah i

05:35:53.520 think both of you are

05:35:54.240 if that's the

05:35:54.880 definition if that's

05:35:55.680 the definition i take

05:35:56.540 it back i don't i

05:35:58.520 don't agree with that

05:35:59.280 definition no because

05:36:01.260 i didn't have that

05:36:01.820 just be misogyny like

05:36:03.200 uh either hatred or

05:36:05.780 contempt of women if

05:36:07.080 it's hatred i don't

05:36:08.160 think either it doesn't

05:36:09.080 have to be like

05:36:10.220 uh always trying to

05:36:11.920 give them the most

05:36:12.580 charitable definition

05:36:13.560 possible that is the

05:36:14.760 definition of misogyny

05:36:16.300 trying to be trying to

05:36:18.080 be charitable

05:36:18.440 do you think women are

05:36:21.760 lesser in many ways

05:36:23.780 and in many ways not

05:36:25.520 i don't think men and

05:36:29.300 women are interchangeable

05:36:30.240 widgets since i don't

05:36:31.660 think that they're

05:36:32.100 interchangeable widgets i

05:36:33.180 think that they do

05:36:34.120 different things better

05:36:35.240 than each other but uh

05:36:37.400 as far as reproduction

05:36:38.520 life-giving this is

05:36:39.620 something amazing that

05:36:40.480 women can do um and

05:36:42.500 they throw it in the

05:36:43.040 dumpster which is

05:36:43.800 fucking insane to me

05:36:44.880 but they do it all the

05:36:45.580 time throw it right in

05:36:46.300 the trash and i think

05:36:47.620 that men are essentially

05:36:49.160 better at almost

05:36:50.060 everything else

05:36:50.840 definitely yeah i think

05:36:52.400 you guys are misogynists

05:36:53.420 yeah well he said that

05:36:55.100 i didn't you gotta

05:36:56.040 so okay so what do you

05:36:58.020 what about me what do

05:36:58.720 you think about me am i

05:36:59.520 a misogynist i don't

05:37:01.720 know can you define

05:37:03.160 misogyny yeah like the

05:37:05.720 hatred and uh for women

05:37:07.100 thinking they're lesser um

05:37:09.120 okay have i any have i

05:37:11.460 said anything that would

05:37:12.360 indicate

05:37:13.360 andrew said some things

05:37:16.640 tonight i haven't yeah

05:37:17.920 no but you guys are

05:37:20.060 sitting next to each other

05:37:21.000 and oh okay guilt by

05:37:23.060 association on the same

05:37:24.300 team right i like how

05:37:25.540 andrew's trying to have a

05:37:26.580 pro life lifer next to

05:37:28.840 you like become more that

05:37:30.620 way okay well i don't know

05:37:32.940 i don't know you i don't

05:37:33.640 know if you're if you say

05:37:34.900 things i mean i think it's

05:37:35.700 totally acceptable and i

05:37:36.720 don't even think women

05:37:37.400 fucking care i think

05:37:38.600 that they're like yeah

05:37:40.120 good like fucking women

05:37:41.600 suck good that's that

05:37:43.420 honestly that's what i

05:37:44.260 think 90 of the women i

05:37:46.180 talk to right 90 of if

05:37:48.780 you actually talk to them

05:37:49.960 and they're away from the

05:37:50.740 rest of the hen pecking

05:37:51.620 bitches they're like you're

05:37:53.280 right they're fucking

05:37:54.160 awful they suck i love

05:37:56.180 watching you rip them to

05:37:57.040 pieces because they're so

05:37:58.120 fucking dumb and they do

05:37:59.500 stupid retarded shit all

05:38:00.720 day and i can't believe it

05:38:02.500 right that's what they said

05:38:04.040 i just think everybody

05:38:04.920 sucks women are

05:38:05.560 misogynistic too wait can

05:38:07.880 i ask you a question if

05:38:09.200 there were three men

05:38:09.980 coming like you're on the

05:38:11.540 street and you saw three

05:38:13.220 men coming at night and

05:38:14.260 you were alone would you

05:38:15.080 cross the street probably

05:38:16.920 yeah okay yeah you're a

05:38:18.360 sexist then yeah miss

05:38:19.240 andrews huh i've had guys

05:38:21.460 like come up to my car and

05:38:22.840 try to open open my car

05:38:24.140 door in a parking lot it

05:38:25.820 was busy like a creepy old

05:38:27.540 guy did you ask how you're

05:38:28.980 a sexist yeah how how is

05:38:31.240 that sexist you're making

05:38:31.900 you're you're making um

05:38:33.900 value judgments based on

05:38:36.060 their sex i'd probably

05:38:38.920 cross the street based on

05:38:40.760 any negative energy if it

05:38:42.140 was negative what if it's

05:38:43.180 not negative it's just

05:38:44.060 probably not i don't want

05:38:45.100 to be it depends on if

05:38:46.560 it's like in your

05:38:48.220 neighborhood you know

05:38:49.180 it's negative energy

05:38:50.360 what yeah i don't know

05:38:51.220 there's not ropes of

05:38:52.160 energy right so here's

05:38:53.960 let me just ask you the

05:38:54.960 question this way we'll

05:38:56.260 make it super simple okay

05:38:57.620 two women who are walking

05:38:59.160 towards you who look about

05:39:00.540 your size height build this

05:39:02.460 type of thing okay versus

05:39:04.140 two men right who are

05:39:06.040 average height average

05:39:07.480 build this type of thing

05:39:08.400 it's late at night you

05:39:09.640 have the option to cross

05:39:10.520 the street would you cross

05:39:11.860 the street for the men

05:39:13.180 before you would the

05:39:14.140 women for the men before

05:39:16.520 the women

05:39:16.960 maybe but it's kind of

05:39:22.120 awkward if somebody's

05:39:22.940 walking towards you like to

05:39:24.360 just like immediately you

05:39:25.580 have the option you just

05:39:27.040 have the option to cross

05:39:28.520 the street in such a way

05:39:29.560 where it's subtle enough

05:39:30.440 where it doesn't look

05:39:31.000 like you're avoiding them

05:39:31.820 but you are so weird

05:39:33.980 those are two weird

05:39:34.660 questions they're

05:39:35.160 interesting i probably

05:39:36.660 would just keep walking

05:39:37.460 because it's more work to

05:39:38.180 cross the street could run

05:39:40.540 if they're going to try it

05:39:41.380 okay what if it's a group

05:39:42.260 of four group of four i mean

05:39:45.500 hopefully they're going to

05:39:46.180 move over a little bit

05:39:47.260 right on the sidewalk okay

05:39:49.020 so at night you don't cross

05:39:50.940 the street when strange

05:39:51.760 men are walking towards

05:39:52.480 you

05:39:52.780 might yeah you might yeah

05:39:56.680 well it's about that's a

05:39:57.920 value judgment based on

05:39:58.900 sex so and the thing is

05:40:01.220 is like i think that's

05:40:02.100 fine i think it's fine to

05:40:03.120 make value judgments based

05:40:04.080 on sex i think that men do

05:40:06.280 it all the time they're

05:40:06.920 like i'm not going to

05:40:07.440 fucking hire a woman what

05:40:08.380 a nightmare that would be

05:40:09.320 so they're making a value

05:40:10.040 judgment based on sex just

05:40:12.020 like if you make a value

05:40:12.980 judgment based on sex you

05:40:14.120 think that men are going to

05:40:14.960 assault you in the dead of

05:40:15.820 night i'm like okay well you

05:40:17.080 know what uh maybe there's

05:40:18.800 something there to support

05:40:19.700 that tons of women seem to

05:40:21.180 think that this is the case

05:40:22.320 it's like okay fine go with

05:40:23.780 your intuition you're because

05:40:25.640 you're a pattern recognition

05:40:26.580 machine just don't get

05:40:27.860 mad at men when they do

05:40:29.160 the same shit when they're

05:40:30.040 like yeah i don't want to

05:40:30.780 get fucking accused of sa and

05:40:32.000 a bunch of bullshit that i

05:40:32.960 never did so i ain't hire

05:40:33.940 no women now i i can't

05:40:36.680 figure out i've never been

05:40:37.680 able to figure out how

05:40:38.520 that's a misogynist take even

05:40:40.500 though i get told all the

05:40:41.740 time it is it seems to me

05:40:42.940 like i'm just making the

05:40:43.840 same value judgment you're

05:40:44.880 making i'm making the same

05:40:47.340 exact judgment that you're

05:40:48.400 making just in reverse i hear

05:40:49.780 you but it's also

05:40:50.480 discriminating uh to not

05:40:52.220 hire upon gender or race

05:40:53.720 oh yeah yeah yeah so the

05:40:56.980 thing is is like it's also

05:40:58.660 discriminating to cross the

05:40:59.980 street no yes you're doing

05:41:02.240 it on the basis of sex but

05:41:04.480 that crossing the street

05:41:05.940 doesn't affect anybody

05:41:06.760 what what if what if you

05:41:09.060 cross the street only because

05:41:10.360 they were black would that be

05:41:11.360 discrimination um maybe

05:41:14.860 yeah well yeah so if you're

05:41:16.740 crossing the street based on

05:41:18.460 the fact that they're black

05:41:19.320 because they're black yeah

05:41:20.460 then yeah and then if you're

05:41:21.440 crossing the street based on

05:41:22.380 the fact that they're men then

05:41:23.380 yeah you're discriminating

05:41:24.580 you're using you're literally

05:41:27.240 using discrimination as a

05:41:29.640 value judgment what so hold

05:41:31.320 on what's worse a woman not

05:41:33.120 getting a job or you thinking

05:41:36.780 men are predators well just

05:41:40.280 because i cross the street

05:41:41.040 doesn't mean i think they're

05:41:41.880 predators i don't know i i

05:41:43.420 well you you're not saying

05:41:46.540 these two particular men are

05:41:48.420 actually going to do something

05:41:49.640 you're just erring on the side

05:41:50.800 of caution right maybe i just

05:41:52.840 don't want to be walking so

05:41:54.320 close to people sure sure well

05:41:55.720 you're just erring along on the

05:41:56.940 side of caution it's like okay

05:41:58.780 but i think that that's the same

05:42:00.100 exact thing that men are doing

05:42:01.680 when they don't hire women

05:42:02.600 they're just erring on the side

05:42:03.780 of caution they're just doing

05:42:05.680 the exact same thing in reverse

05:42:06.860 they're like well you know i mean

05:42:08.580 chances are you're not going to

05:42:09.840 do anything but why take the

05:42:11.360 chance you know seems like it

05:42:14.560 could be pretty catastrophic so i

05:42:16.240 i just don't see a woman like

05:42:17.340 going into a workplace with all

05:42:19.700 men and them being the only

05:42:21.080 woman and just like randomly

05:42:22.400 accusing somebody of sexual

05:42:23.760 assault unless they well no

05:42:26.320 there's many other problems

05:42:28.000 right maybe they start dating

05:42:29.400 inside of the workplace or they

05:42:31.000 create friction between multiple

05:42:32.360 employees you know women happens

05:42:33.680 in every workplace though yes but

05:42:35.000 it happens more with women

05:42:35.920 because women tend to attack

05:42:37.160 reputation slander reputation

05:42:38.840 more than they attack arguments

05:42:40.920 things like this because they don't

05:42:42.420 seem to really understand

05:42:43.340 arguments are there statistics on

05:42:44.920 personal attacks instant yes there

05:42:47.420 are yes of course of course yes

05:42:50.680 of course women use innuendo and

05:42:52.440 slander as their form of attack

05:42:54.520 more than anything else they don't

05:42:55.640 have physical force like men do

05:42:57.260 men are more likely to use

05:42:58.300 physical force or argumentation

05:43:00.200 women are more likely to use

05:43:01.240 reputational damage and slander so

05:43:03.680 if that's the case yeah they're

05:43:04.980 going to cause a lot of problems

05:43:05.960 in the workplace it's not that men

05:43:07.300 don't do it they do it right it's

05:43:09.720 just it's the rate definitely do it

05:43:11.900 yeah it's the rates i mean women

05:43:13.940 essay men too yeah you're talking

05:43:15.920 about the difference in rates

05:43:16.980 right that's what you think in your

05:43:18.400 head that's why you make that

05:43:19.360 value judgment it's like i don't

05:43:21.460 blame a woman for crossing the

05:43:22.720 street when group of men are

05:43:24.560 approaching her i don't blame her

05:43:25.780 i'm like okay that makes sense i

05:43:27.660 just don't know why they blame men

05:43:28.680 for not wanting to hire them it's

05:43:29.860 like that makes fucking sense too

05:43:31.280 that's all

05:43:34.200 how does it not

05:43:37.980 yeah more notes here okay so let's

05:43:46.140 just try to get through all of these

05:43:47.480 as quick as possible oh is it wrong

05:43:49.280 for men to not want to date a trans

05:43:50.640 woman because they're trans no it's

05:43:52.920 not right starting with you um

05:43:54.820 that's a sensitive subject um i think

05:44:00.680 that everyone should have everyone

05:44:02.240 has their own sexuality everyone has

05:44:03.680 their own preferences people who are

05:44:06.140 bisexual maybe maybe just identify

05:44:07.940 with like liking um men or women and

05:44:11.380 then somebody who's like pansexual

05:44:12.580 doesn't really care based off of gender

05:44:14.700 so i mean people have their

05:44:16.500 sexualities if you're straight maybe

05:44:18.920 you don't want to be with a trans

05:44:20.200 woman okay uh wait but so is it i

05:44:24.720 guess i can restate the question here

05:44:26.560 is it wrong or would you object in some

05:44:30.020 way for a man to not want to date a

05:44:32.840 trans woman no okay keep away from

05:44:35.940 them if you don't like them there's

05:44:37.480 some there there was some subtext there

05:44:39.080 that i have to follow up on real quick

05:44:40.820 and i'll ask this a different way um

05:44:43.180 so let's say a man is totally attracted

05:44:46.900 to a trans woman right does not realize

05:44:50.020 this person is trans thinks that

05:44:52.020 they're great and wonderful they have

05:44:53.560 this like serious connection this and

05:44:55.020 that then finds out that they're

05:44:57.260 unfortunately it's not safe for

05:44:58.580 trans women hang on hang on yeah let

05:45:00.260 me finish the question finds out that

05:45:02.360 that person is trans and then based on

05:45:04.300 only that says okay i reject you is that

05:45:08.540 wrong no it's uh i don't i don't think

05:45:12.620 it's wrong i mean all right yeah you mean

05:45:15.120 what i don't think it's wrong i think

05:45:17.520 that it's it's safer for trans women to

05:45:19.320 disclose that they're trans uh sooner

05:45:22.700 rather than later when they're dating

05:45:23.980 unfortunately it's not safe to wait

05:45:26.960 okay uh your answer to the question

05:45:30.880 uh no i don't think it's wrong no it's

05:45:34.300 not wrong no no it's not wrong okay and

05:45:38.160 then one further question is it straight

05:45:42.300 for a man to date a trans woman no we

05:45:47.980 okay i think yes i don't know i really

05:45:53.260 don't that's the bow out

05:45:54.500 you know you know what you want to say

05:45:59.320 what do you think i want to say yes you

05:46:02.080 want to say yes it's totally straight

05:46:03.240 that's what i think you want to say

05:46:04.520 no no no so would you how about this

05:46:07.920 if i were to say that that's gay

05:46:10.540 for a man to date a trans woman like he's

05:46:15.880 not straight he's gay sure a lot of

05:46:19.120 trans people would agree that that is

05:46:21.460 gay well what do you think i think it

05:46:23.340 is maybe i don't really know though all

05:46:26.220 right yeah oh yeah it's not straight

05:46:28.660 it's not straight what you said yes

05:46:31.060 straight i said it is straight oh it's

05:46:33.360 straight okay

05:46:33.920 um what's the meaning of uh heterosexual

05:46:38.800 um well you said completely straight i

05:46:43.500 think it depends on what the partner is

05:46:46.000 attracted to like are they attracted to

05:46:48.100 the penis like because if they're

05:46:50.120 attracted to the penis and that's not

05:46:51.980 because like i feel like if no this is

05:46:56.800 post-op if it oh okay so if they i think

05:47:01.560 that this if it's post-op then yeah it's

05:47:04.100 straight oh does that you does that

05:47:06.140 change your answer here i think that

05:47:08.260 yeah that they're post-op so if you

05:47:10.420 fuck it you nick it's straight but i'm not

05:47:12.060 that person like so i would be able to

05:47:13.840 consider because i because i think that

05:47:16.340 like trans people whatever they

05:47:18.640 identify as like i believe in trans

05:47:21.020 yeah change the split yeah um maybe we

05:47:26.760 can just kind of quickly dive into this

05:47:28.640 so um you agree that that's still male

05:47:31.280 um wait so what i'm not asking man i

05:47:36.780 asked male yes i agree it's a male yes

05:47:39.540 and if two male animals were engaged in

05:47:43.680 sexual intercourse are those animals

05:47:46.420 engaged in homosexual intercourse

05:47:48.240 yes but they're i think it's different

05:47:52.160 in like humanity okay tell me the

05:47:56.560 threshold breaker um i would say just

05:47:59.460 the fact that we have gender roles in

05:48:04.600 humanity like i think and no there's no

05:48:07.920 gender role which you can assign that you

05:48:10.480 can say belongs to a sex not a single

05:48:12.900 one honestly i think actually let me

05:48:16.540 take a step back because i don't

05:48:18.180 necessarily think it has to do with

05:48:19.940 gender roles i think it has to do even

05:48:22.500 more so with like when we talk about

05:48:26.300 like for example like when we were having

05:48:28.260 the conversation i know you disagree with

05:48:29.900 this but like how we were talking about

05:48:31.320 how women are like more nurturing i think

05:48:33.220 that like there are like biological things

05:48:35.720 about men and women that are different

05:48:38.840 like in the brain and i think that

05:48:41.080 that is where like gender dysphoria comes

05:48:46.320 in and that's where transness is a piece

05:48:49.380 yeah but there's transgender people without

05:48:51.400 gender dysphoria yeah no i don't think

05:48:53.560 that's true gender dysphoria is required

05:48:56.160 to be trans

05:48:56.700 no no no no can you guys get that fixed

05:49:02.420 please you gotta go f11 and stream yard

05:49:06.400 oh hold on hold on here okay okay just

05:49:08.760 here go to sources go to sources scroll up

05:49:12.660 just hide sorry guys no problem stream yard

05:49:15.680 and then you have to re-enter i think

05:49:20.120 somebody pressed the back button on the

05:49:21.580 mouse there that's probably what happened

05:49:23.060 all right uh go sorry guys tech issue here

05:49:30.220 no problem

05:49:30.980 you're gonna no no no go f11 first please

05:49:36.380 all right it's fixed go ahead yeah why

05:49:41.340 does it require gender dysphoria because

05:49:43.760 gender dysphoria is the disconnect between

05:49:47.100 the brain and the body i see so a pansexual

05:49:52.340 person is not trans if they don't have

05:49:55.340 gender dysphoria pansexual people are that's

05:49:58.760 a sexuality not pansexual person who

05:50:01.180 identifies as being trans is not trans if

05:50:04.720 they don't have gender dysphoria

05:50:05.960 what is that i don't understand your point

05:50:11.160 because pansexual is the attraction to

05:50:13.000 all genders

05:50:13.300 if a person identifies as being transgender

05:50:16.220 you're saying that it requires that they

05:50:18.880 have gender dysphoria to do so

05:50:20.400 yes

05:50:21.220 yes

05:50:22.320 yeah okay why would that be the requirement

05:50:25.160 because the whole basis of being trans is a

05:50:30.120 disconnect between the brain and the body

05:50:31.940 theotokos donated 99 dollars

05:50:34.600 is it gay for the government to have a gender

05:50:37.140 equivalent draft for women where women are

05:50:39.860 assigned a husband and mandated to have

05:50:41.940 children

05:50:42.360 yo theo you're the guy you're from last

05:50:44.680 stream right the giga chad legend first

05:50:47.840 off good to see you back in the chat second

05:50:49.260 off thank you for all the support on sunday

05:50:51.220 yeah theotokos what's up man um so yeah just i'll

05:50:55.580 just kind of very very quickly barrel through

05:50:57.400 this right i'll ask this afterwards

05:50:58.940 so um okay so now we've we've got this

05:51:02.700 confined to mental illness then

05:51:04.400 i see that's a thing like i don't

05:51:08.220 sure you can say gender dysphoria is a

05:51:10.220 mental illness and if you categorize

05:51:11.640 yeah if you want to say transness is a

05:51:14.280 mental illness then yeah sure say it's a

05:51:16.560 mental illness and we cure that by giving

05:51:19.020 them gender reassignment surgery

05:51:20.420 they're not cured hasn't homophobia been

05:51:21.820 wait wait wait wait wait mental illness

05:51:23.920 they're not cured okay so then so then

05:51:25.540 what do you think the cure is

05:51:27.900 there is no cure what do you mean wait

05:51:30.480 hold on what were you saying i wasn't

05:51:32.680 being homosexual classified as a mental

05:51:35.440 illness at one point yeah

05:51:36.640 so so anyway how far are we going back

05:51:41.400 well you you have to understand though that

05:51:43.860 we have two distinctions here so

05:51:45.820 distinction the first distinction is she

05:51:47.580 says a trans person must have gender

05:51:50.520 dysphoria they're not trans okay well what

05:51:54.420 is gender dysphoria it's a mental illness so

05:51:56.520 therefore so therefore by her logic you

05:51:59.100 must be mentally ill to be trans right

05:52:01.220 sure i don't think that's a i don't

05:52:04.060 think so then if somebody doesn't want to

05:52:05.460 date a person based on the fact that

05:52:06.880 they're mentally ill what's the problem i

05:52:08.520 i didn't say that there was a problem

05:52:10.160 base if someone doesn't want to date a

05:52:12.260 trans person i don't think there's an

05:52:13.440 issue okay so um i'm trying to figure

05:52:17.080 out though why is it that because they're

05:52:19.520 mentally ill that that somehow makes them

05:52:22.120 not homosexuals when they're engaged with

05:52:23.960 men and with sex

05:52:24.960 wait can you refer can you restate it

05:52:29.660 sorry i was

05:52:30.240 oh okay um yeah it's very hard to critique

05:52:37.180 this because of the platform that we're on

05:52:39.780 so i'll phrase it this way

05:52:42.060 uh if a person were to have

05:52:45.400 fuck i can't even we you just got to move

05:52:48.240 it on bro i can't i can't phrase it any

05:52:50.540 other way to critique it i like i just

05:52:52.760 can't do it so if there's if there's

05:52:55.700 something wrong right something wrong

05:52:57.440 upstairs please let's say something

05:52:59.300 wrong upstairs um i don't understand how

05:53:03.300 that would disqualify male on male

05:53:05.260 sexual intercourse as being anything less

05:53:07.900 than homosexual intercourse that's what i

05:53:09.480 don't get well the thing is i don't see

05:53:12.140 male on male as like male biology on male

05:53:17.040 biology as necessarily homosexual i think

05:53:20.100 man on man is homosexual and i as yeah but

05:53:23.220 man is anybody who identifies as a man

05:53:25.060 yeah if that's the case then you don't

05:53:28.460 have to have gender dysphoria to be trans

05:53:31.280 because you could just self-identify as

05:53:34.000 the sex and you would be that sex well i

05:53:36.380 don't think i don't think that's right

05:53:38.300 then you have to qualify it because you

05:53:41.060 say anybody who identifies a man as a man

05:53:43.460 right i think any no i don't think

05:53:46.420 that's true i think a lot of people say

05:53:48.500 that too just to then what makes you a

05:53:51.640 man other than maleness that's a whole

05:53:54.740 other can of worms no it's not another

05:53:57.320 can of words if you say man is this set of

05:54:03.140 criteria okay whatever x set of criteria

05:54:06.540 is then i'll accept that i just want to

05:54:09.520 know what x criteria is okay but if you say

05:54:12.240 a man does not require x criteria just

05:54:15.760 self-id well now we have a different

05:54:18.240 problem i see what you're saying here now

05:54:21.040 um i just think it's yeah like you said

05:54:25.160 it's like kind of hard to like get into

05:54:27.840 because like i i i understand your point

05:54:30.640 is that like i'm trying to articulate this

05:54:35.080 but um like i see someone who identifies as

05:54:39.360 a man as a man but i think gender

05:54:41.940 dysphoria is a requirement to be trans and

05:54:44.360 there's kind of like well then how are you a

05:54:46.820 man i see that's where i'm kind of like

05:54:49.660 that's where i like don't really know like

05:54:52.040 how to that makes no sense that literally

05:54:54.880 makes it i mean it's a contradiction to

05:54:56.740 say if you identify as a man you are but

05:54:59.720 you're not trans

05:55:00.460 well why would you identify as a man if

05:55:04.220 you didn't have gender dysphoria and you

05:55:06.140 have i don't see why you couldn't why

05:55:07.940 couldn't you why couldn't you identify as

05:55:09.920 being a man even if you had female body

05:55:11.740 parts because why would you yeah but why

05:55:13.680 you would is irrelevant to the the question

05:55:16.120 of why couldn't you i mean i guess you

05:55:19.560 could and if you could are you well people

05:55:22.960 can't afford to always if you could are

05:55:25.460 you no no you're not so then what is the

05:55:28.560 criteria for man having a male brain the

05:55:33.500 fuck does that mean

05:55:34.560 doesn't a male brain go in a male body

05:55:38.340 no i mean like do you have a like how

05:55:40.840 do you how would you know okay that

05:55:42.200 somebody had a male brain except the body

05:55:44.020 around it was male you don't see that you

05:55:46.800 know your consciousness knows having a

05:55:49.520 male consciousness do you think you have

05:55:51.140 a male consciousness i don't know what

05:55:52.760 that means

05:55:53.380 okay so what do you think being a man is

05:55:56.460 i think having a penis i think that being

05:55:59.720 a man

05:56:00.300 uh essentially has multiple criteria that

05:56:04.600 we can list we could list chromosomes we

05:56:06.480 could list well yeah all of this right

05:56:07.940 but really the simple way is you only have

05:56:11.160 two reproductive pathways which the body

05:56:13.000 can go down

05:56:13.700 to but didn't you say that you just asked

05:56:16.940 me okay go find it and i'm trying to

05:56:19.180 okay there's only two

05:56:21.360 uh phenotypical pathways you can go down

05:56:24.320 okay two that's it female male there's no

05:56:27.260 third sex no intermediate sex there never

05:56:29.620 has been not even in people who have

05:56:31.800 hermaphrodite hermaphrodite right things

05:56:34.120 like that absolutely

05:56:35.960 only have one sex pathway so only one of

05:56:41.540 those reproductive organs can work people

05:56:43.420 can't pregnant themselves no matter what

05:56:45.980 their physiology is there it's impossible

05:56:48.020 so only one reproductive way can actually

05:56:50.440 work okay i think that we're never gonna

05:56:53.560 reach a conclusion here because no i think

05:56:55.820 we can very quickly no because i just need

05:56:57.800 your definition of

05:56:58.680 of man okay i gave it to you and you don't

05:57:01.460 agree that there are male and female

05:57:02.820 brains so we're never going to reach a

05:57:04.640 conclusion i think that there i think

05:57:06.580 that there's male and female brains i think

05:57:08.560 that if

05:57:09.120 there's a brain inside of a male body it's

05:57:11.660 a male's brain okay and i disagree i think

05:57:14.040 that they're what what do you mean you

05:57:15.540 disagree no okay consciousness sure

05:57:17.400 if you want to say consciousness instead of

05:57:20.380 brain sure because that's what the fuck is a

05:57:22.500 female consciousness when you when you've

05:57:24.760 identified like that your whole life well

05:57:26.500 then then it's all self id so then okay so

05:57:29.900 then if so now we've got it okay now i've

05:57:32.560 got because the gender dysphoria is no because

05:57:34.760 the gender dysphoria is a part of that

05:57:36.600 self-identification if you have a female

05:57:38.760 brain in a male body okay but why couldn't you

05:57:44.700 make the claim then go and get diagnosed they

05:57:48.180 say no you don't have dysphoria you could do

05:57:50.860 that if you wanted to but that doesn't make

05:57:53.020 you trans like that gives you a diagnosis

05:57:55.120 you just said it's just it's just okay it

05:57:57.960 gives you a diagnosis but it doesn't make

05:57:59.900 you trans i what i'm saying is being trans is

05:58:03.780 having a male brain or a female brain in the

05:58:06.500 opposite body of your gender and you disagree

05:58:09.020 with that and that's fine i'm not actually sure

05:58:11.180 how it's possible that you can have a brain

05:58:13.700 inside of your body that does is doesn't

05:58:16.040 belong with your body because it's literally in

05:58:19.160 your body i mean i'm sure well that just gets

05:58:22.300 into like this the science of like how an embryo

05:58:25.500 grows in like the womb like there might be

05:58:27.920 something that goes wrong in there you know like

05:58:30.740 who knows i don't know okay so but but we can define

05:58:35.980 so so your definition of a man is anybody who has a male

05:58:41.720 brain yes and your definition male consciousness

05:58:44.200 and your definition of anybody has a male

05:58:46.200 consciousness is anybody who says that they have

05:58:48.960 one no anybody not anybody who says that they

05:58:53.780 do anybody who feels that they do yeah okay so how

05:58:55.940 would you know that they feel that i wouldn't

05:58:58.220 know they would know that and how would they tell

05:59:00.200 you that i wouldn't know how would they tell

05:59:02.220 you that this isn't my like how would they tell

05:59:05.980 you why does it matter what would they tell

05:59:07.820 you that they would they would use their

05:59:09.720 words they would use their words so okay but why does it matter what i think they use their words

05:59:13.620 to say that they identified as a man okay but why does it matter what i think what what it

05:59:19.460 well because it's your definition that's why it matters my definition is how they feel i don't

05:59:24.740 give a shit what they told you how they felt okay if they want to lie to me and say something else

05:59:29.000 opposite to what they feel that's not my like so then we have established that a man's anybody who

05:59:34.160 identifies no it's somebody okay i do want to dispute one thing yeah go ahead it's okay

05:59:39.400 um i think in the past before it was as socially acceptable as it is now to come out as transgender

05:59:45.120 um you had feminine men and you had masculine women and oftentimes they would identify as

05:59:50.020 homosexual or they wouldn't they would just be you know butch or you know more feminine man

05:59:54.700 um however i don't believe though that there's this you know distinction between male and female

06:00:00.460 brains i think i do agree with andrew that it is you know if you're a female and you have a brain

06:00:04.560 that's a female brain and you can even to your point about oh a man who you know just identifies

06:00:10.740 as transgender um isn't necessarily going to have a female brain maybe he has feminine tendencies

06:00:16.500 but even with people who identify as transgender donated 99 this is a quirk of language the internal

06:00:24.600 lie means something than the physical embodiment same as the last podcast actions divorced from

06:00:31.560 consequences i totally agree how do you pronounce this theotokos theotokos um you can you finish

06:00:38.420 your thing and then yes of course yeah i just was going to say that um if you look at people who

06:00:42.540 identify as transgender when they go on um you know uh hormone therapy they often um experience the

06:00:49.460 opposite genders like libido and that would be neurological right so it's not like they didn't have

06:00:55.440 you know if a man is going on um uh estrogen his um libido is going to decrease i mean that's often

06:01:03.400 because of the hormones though yeah but the hormones is neurological so his brain in that way was always

06:01:07.980 masculine because oftentimes they they will claim that they had a more intense libido that's fair

06:01:12.920 actually estrogen what about women with extra testosterone and hermaphrodites

06:01:16.780 yeah so yeah again um if you're if you're i'm not we're not going to say the i guess the h word

06:01:26.600 sometimes i really fucking hate youtube because it just makes conversation impossible um if you're

06:01:32.360 talking about that particular condition right you don't believe that those that people with that

06:01:37.520 condition can impregnate themselves right no why not it's impossible why because they don't have both of

06:01:44.040 the uh female and male organs so they only have one one functional reproductive system and so when

06:01:50.240 it's surgically so hang on so when it's surgically fixed which reproductive system do you think they

06:01:55.920 go with the one that works right because that is the pathway your body develops yes yes always every

06:02:04.800 time donated 99 is it gay for the government to have a gender equivalent draft for women where women

06:02:12.680 are assigned a husband and mandated to have children wait is it gay for the government to have a gender

06:02:18.460 i don't know if it's why would it be why would it be gay though

06:02:23.380 it would be bisexual theo theo tacos thank you theo toko's theo toko's all right i got moving on um

06:02:38.740 couple more questions here and then we'll do the row session then wrap who's the primary victim

06:02:42.600 of war men or women starting with you families well you chair one everybody you gotta pick one

06:02:50.480 men or women primary victim of war okay men yes maybe men men okay uh let's see are men or women

06:03:02.380 physically stronger starting with you men are physically stronger yeah men men men men okay can you

06:03:11.940 be sexist towards men yes yeah yes yes can you be racist towards white people starting with you

06:03:20.220 yes yeah yes yes i don't like white people i don't like white people but i love you are white i know

06:03:27.440 um i'm just kidding i i think we're all scum that's what i'm trying to wait so nihilist all scum um

06:03:35.860 or maybe not i don't know if that uh wait you don't like white people um so you're a self-loathing

06:03:44.240 white person sure internalized racism no i have white friends and stuff i don't i have white friends

06:03:54.540 i've never heard that phrase before oh boy that's crazy um here hold on i'm gonna send the i'm gonna

06:04:01.860 send the asteroid for that one shit let's she wants the asteroid though she thinks everybody's scum

06:04:07.580 damn that's crazy um do you think white people have culture yeah they have their own culture

06:04:14.760 cultures you but you hate white people i don't hate like anybody unless they're a horrible person

06:04:23.660 do you hate white men more than you hate white women intersectional hate i can't say that because

06:04:28.920 i don't know every single white man i don't know every single white but you don't know every single

06:04:32.240 white person i have that just in reverse which one what do i hate the hate white men or white

06:04:40.000 women i i have i just have it in reverse it's like you hate the white women more than the white

06:04:45.560 men oh and you don't say that yeah just in reverse oh yeah yeah all right that was an interesting

06:04:53.200 okay i love women they're awesome but only because of the way they vote i'm a girl's girl only because

06:04:58.220 the way they vote okay uh do you are you feminist starting with you yes probably in your terms yeah

06:05:05.500 no no no nope okay uh for the two feminists are women oppressed

06:05:14.380 um in what way let me start with a different question first we'll come back to that is there

06:05:21.140 a patriarchy yeah there's a patriarchy yeah you know under the patriarchy are women oppressed

06:05:27.420 yeah in the workplace a lot of workplace okay what else um anywhere anywhere i mean men are oppressed

06:05:34.840 in ways too sure yeah okay um like i like i said like in what way like i think women are oppressed

06:05:42.220 in in the fact that like we kind of have to like take more caution a lot of the time like you do

06:05:48.820 yeah do you i mean like out late at night yeah i would say women do i don't think so or with

06:05:56.660 people's feelings actually men men have to i think well maybe they some men might yeah well i don't know

06:06:03.500 actually i'll just go ahead and say yeah men actually have to take more precautions

06:06:09.760 what against who though men how's that how's that relevant let's just say men

06:06:15.240 i'll just grant it yeah let's say it's other men yeah well i mean like that wasn't like what i was

06:06:22.640 trying to ask i was like okay but so yeah let's just grant it so let's go back to that though so

06:06:26.740 yeah i think men have to take more precautions you know what that's fair but they're not getting

06:06:34.240 attacked because they're men women's a lot of the time get attacked because they're women

06:06:38.940 because they're weaker because they're men really yeah i mean here's my example to you a man's far

06:06:44.020 more likely to hit a man than woman i hear what you're saying that's literally that i understand

06:06:49.220 what you're saying that's literally giving the creation of a cause right so if men are more likely

06:06:53.360 to hit men than they are women that means they're more likely to hit men because they're men

06:06:56.140 i think that they're more likely to get in fights yeah so they're more likely to hit men because yeah

06:07:02.820 but they're more i agree okay but attacking and like getting into a fight is like pretty different

06:07:09.580 in my opinion what is it same shit no i mean an attack is one-sided a fight is like kind of a tussle

06:07:17.440 yeah fights are one-sided often often so it's like if you just lose that's an attack

06:07:24.320 i mean an attack is like when i think of an attack i think of like an ambush you know what i mean like

06:07:30.520 yeah i think we discount a lot of um attacks on men because we assume that i mean rightfully assume

06:07:38.160 but they also have the ability to defend themselves more but it doesn't dismiss that men are maybe more

06:07:44.060 likely to be attacked i think that we're just um if we're walking outside at night by ourselves we

06:07:49.020 just don't have the physical capabilities to defend yeah and honestly i kind of agree with that but

06:07:54.380 here's the thing can you take that water off the table um so there are scenarios i actually had the

06:08:00.660 scenario where i was attacked it wasn't a it wasn't mutual combat it wasn't like yeah fuck you let's fight

06:08:08.160 it was like i'm trying to remove myself from the situation and despite my efforts to remove myself

06:08:14.460 from the situation the attack persisted and i was not looking for a fight the trouble found me

06:08:22.600 had i been a woman in this situation it would have never happened what happened so i was out filming

06:08:30.600 i've shared this only once or twice before so probably most people aren't aware of this i was out

06:08:35.120 filming this was a couple years ago uh with a camera and three men approached me and they're like

06:08:40.980 being aggressive towards me they didn't know who i was this is before i started the podcast

06:08:45.080 and uh they i was out filming for one of like my videos or whatever and they were like why are you

06:08:53.300 filming people out in public mind you which is totally it's not it's not against the law it's not a

06:08:58.900 crime they were drunk they were being aggressive towards me they saw an easy target i thought they

06:09:04.080 were trying to rob me of my gear whatever uh so all three of them so i would regrettably was out alone

06:09:12.740 they started attacking me and i had to run away and i got punched luckily i didn't get stomped on the

06:09:20.340 ground but i ended up on the ground i got hit my camera was broken damaged had i been a woman

06:09:26.860 it would have never gotten there never i don't i disagree how the fuck do you disagree because i

06:09:35.560 i sympathize with you that's horrible but i i know of a woman this year who got attacked by a man

06:09:40.260 randomly on the street and she was yes it happens yeah but if i had been a woman under these same

06:09:46.300 circumstances i would not have been attacked and here's why this was in public mind you it wasn't

06:09:53.560 like in some back hold on it wasn't some back alley situation so she's the victim now when i'm telling

06:10:01.920 my story isn't that funny so okay so there were people around if i was a woman as women if a man

06:10:12.240 lays a hand on you you best believe that there's plenty of justifiably so men who will be your for

06:10:21.360 free bodyguards who will intervene on your behalf if i'm getting scorched and fucked up by another dude

06:10:28.460 even if it's one-on-one even if it's three-on-one it doesn't really matter no man no stranger man will

06:10:36.660 ever intervene on my behalf if i'm getting beat up by another guy if a guy but they will watch it oh

06:10:43.160 they'll watch it they'll film it and they'll laugh if a woman as a woman if there's by male bystanders

06:10:49.320 around and another man puts his hands on you smacks you around that guy's getting fucked up it's not

06:10:56.540 true there's that's a hundred percent are you there's been multiple viral moments in the last few

06:11:01.000 like last two years like the chick that got hit with a brick so oh my god you were so toaster brain

06:11:05.820 are there instances well hold on hold on are there instances of a woman who's been struck in public by

06:11:12.580 a man and nobody intervenes yes yes there's also an overwhelming amount of instances where a woman

06:11:21.360 has been struck by a man in public and plenty of men are going to be your free bodyguards and will

06:11:28.480 intervene and will dole out street justice to this man you can't say the same thing about man if i'm one

06:11:37.700 on one with a man on the street nobody's coming to my defense maybe if i'm lucky somebody breaks it up

06:11:44.000 but then that guy gets to walk away if some guy smacks you in the face and there's 10 other men around

06:11:51.080 he's getting fucking stomped and if you don't think that's true you're actually toaster brained well that

06:11:57.820 did actually happen to me in public and none of the men around me did anything i was hit

06:12:02.540 i'm just saying anecdotes there are anecdotes well yours is an anecdote well hit how hit how

06:12:08.940 i was hit by a man i didn't see him i didn't see what happened but he walked past and i was in a big

06:12:13.240 crowded group of people and there were other men there and they didn't i they saw it happen they

06:12:16.760 didn't do anything what happened he hit me and he walked away so he punched you in the face no in the

06:12:22.720 back in the back of your head no in on my back

06:12:26.880 so he and then ran yeah okay but you know we all when you were telling your story we all listened and

06:12:39.800 you're making faces at my story no no i was just trying to understand it brian you're making

06:12:43.700 disapproving faces that's not super well because this is different yeah the situation's different so

06:12:47.760 i was being chased down the fucking street no i understand that but some guy boom ran away

06:12:53.860 immediately totally fucking different i was giving an example to totally different let me ask you this

06:12:59.940 if that guy if that guy was attacking um if that guy was attacking you if he like didn't just punch

06:13:07.580 you in the back but he grabbed you and you know he was he was really and you were you were you called

06:13:11.860 out for help those guys would have knocked him the fuck out right i mean i did call out for help but

06:13:15.900 he got away but none of no nobody around me did anything well i mean that was something that

06:13:20.080 happened super quick well there's this crazy thing called the bystander effect in our society

06:13:24.420 and human society where people just keep walking well i i will grant that more so in modernity and i

06:13:31.220 think that this is a good thing that men are not stepping in to defend women when women are getting

06:13:36.720 attacked so now i know how horrible that sounds but think about it from the perspective of men right

06:13:43.800 um good so ultimately what ends up happening is um you know i am fucking feminist she-run and you

06:13:52.720 know i'll work the tight leather and beat the shit out of the 300 pound marvel bandits right uh all

06:13:58.380 these fucking women have this idea you'll see them shriek sky shriek you know what i mean we don't need

06:14:04.180 men for nothing we don't need nothing from them and it's like okay well then when this happens to you

06:14:08.620 and treat you like we treat men and just watch right i'm not getting involved in a fist fight

06:14:15.360 between two guys none of my business why should i get involved in a fist fight between a guy and a

06:14:20.100 girl also ain't none of my business right now i think that when i was growing up i think i would

06:14:25.640 have had a totally different attitude maybe 18 19 20 it'd probably be the first one to be like what

06:14:29.660 are you doing you crazy fuck you can't attack women but in modernity it's like

06:14:34.480 the only thing i can think of is well maybe in this way women will be like well maybe men

06:14:42.900 maybe men maybe we do need them for something maybe maybe we shouldn't just be completely

06:14:49.040 self-absorbed brats but the loud outlier feminists like shouldn't maybe the woman being attacked doesn't

06:14:57.340 hold those views it's really funny she just wants to take women and men yeah i agree masculinity

06:15:01.800 shouldn't it's really sad it's really sad to me that uh a small core group of women have been able

06:15:08.760 to seize so much political power and train other women to vote for fucking democrats and horrible

06:15:14.060 policies that didn't actually interfere with my life um but it's like well you wanted equality here it

06:15:21.280 is that's what it looks like that's what it looks like then that's kind of like you being a

06:15:26.940 follower of women like your masculinity should be steady regardless what does that happen well

06:15:32.120 first of all why is it masculine to step in on behalf of a woman because you agree that women are

06:15:35.840 weaker correct so i agree that there's lots of men who are weaker than me i wouldn't step in for them

06:15:40.380 should i if you view women women as lesser the way you say and that you are the stronger one

06:15:47.860 and you are the christian one then yes you absolutely should oh wait a second back up so you

06:15:51.900 straw man the shit out of my position first of all my position is not all women are inferior

06:15:56.500 right i i can grant that many women are better than all sorts of different things than i am and

06:16:02.580 no there's stronger women than me the cost donated 99 dollars if women didn't actually have those views

06:16:09.000 they wouldn't be in that situation and would be surrounded by men that protect that's what i'm

06:16:13.780 saying right so but we need men to protect us so that you don't so that you don't straw man the

06:16:17.960 position and explain it again there's all sorts of women who are better than me at all sorts of

06:16:21.580 things no doubt about it and there's women who are much stronger than i am there's no doubt about

06:16:26.660 that right uh but it has nothing to do with the fact that i think on average there's nothing that

06:16:33.080 women can do that men can't do on par or better other than reproduction that's the position so when

06:16:40.600 you when you come back and you say well wait a second this is some kind of assault on your

06:16:45.340 masculinity it's like no i have no duty no duty nor obligation to step in on behalf of women who

06:16:52.620 enjoy their egalitarianism right but at the same time have no duty to actually execute enforcement

06:17:00.520 on their own but instead would outsource it to me fuck that right then then go get drafted then sign

06:17:07.380 up for the draft then sign up for the draft and go defend the country and then fucking men will step in

06:17:11.960 for you but if until that happens there's no real egalitarianism and it's like well fine fine why

06:17:17.900 should they step in why should they hurt themselves on your behalf when when women vote against their

06:17:22.320 interests i wouldn't it seems like a really bad idea seems like i just hate to think that me as

06:17:29.360 someone who votes red if i'm out getting attacked by a man the other men be like but these feminists

06:17:35.400 you deserve like it's not a matter of deserve they can totally say you totally didn't deserve that

06:17:42.000 i'm not fucking helping you go ask your feminists go ask the feminists to help you go ask the

06:17:47.260 feminists after the hurricane to bring the fucking boats in and save people you know go ask them if

06:17:53.260 you love egalitarianism so much go ask go ask the she-ras to help you someone like me or

06:17:58.940 the other cost donated 99 the gender equivalent draft assignment to a man and to make babies

06:18:08.800 yeah it's not a fun position like i wish that men didn't have to move towards that position but

06:18:14.820 the truth is is that they really do they have to protect themselves at this point thank you theo for

06:18:18.800 the tts they really do interesting interesting i think we're talking about oppression i don't know

06:18:27.520 how the fuck we got onto all that how are we are you oppressed um i think that see now that we've

06:18:37.700 like strayed so far away from the topic it's hard to talk about but um yeah i think women are oppressed

06:18:42.680 in the sense that like a lot of their value is based on appearance what how's that oppression i mean

06:18:53.840 because like or is that privilege wait i guess people get older eventually yeah people who have

06:19:01.720 lived by that their whole life they're like what's going on i'm not getting this praise wait so women

06:19:06.760 who can make because you don't choose your appearance thousands or millions of dollars you don't choose

06:19:11.280 your appearance based off their appearance is oppression what about ugly women oh i'm sorry i thought

06:19:15.500 hang on hang on i thought at the beginning of the conversation beauty was subjective

06:19:19.080 no i i don't think it is i i mean sure beauty is subjective but like there are ugly women yeah

06:19:24.180 there are ugly women and those women are treated the same as men they're not treated badly they get

06:19:30.820 the they get equality with men men do not treat ugly women the same as they treat ugly men yeah they do

06:19:36.100 what they treat ugly men like shit what do you mean no they don't yes they do in fact there was a

06:19:40.420 social experiment on this which was done and just via hiring practices they took two men's exact same

06:19:45.260 credentials they both applied to the exact same business for an accounting firm the handsome chad

06:19:50.260 got the job the other guy didn't but they didn't do it with an ugly man and an ugly woman did they

06:19:54.640 hang on wait no this wouldn't the wouldn't the thing here be that would be wait that would be the

06:19:58.700 equivalent though no because that's saying that ugly people in general are treated worse which is

06:20:05.260 true they are yeah and ugly men are treated better than ugly women prove it no i can't prove it

06:20:11.180 that's because it's not demonstrated okay then you prove it prove what i'm saying that there is that

06:20:15.800 it's equal that ugly people get treated bad prove it that ugly you just said that that's true prove

06:20:21.940 that it's equal then what that the treatment is yeah yeah yeah so the position must be falsified it's

06:20:30.020 your position all ugly people treat it bad right yeah okay so we found the common ground yeah we both

06:20:35.840 agree on that yeah okay if you want to make the additional claim that no men who are ugly are

06:20:41.800 treated better than women who are ugly you can't put that burden on me okay well there's no way to

06:20:48.360 really prove that so i can't really go for i mean i'm sure that there's ways that that can be demonstrated

06:20:53.760 well i mean not here yeah i'm not sure how you could do it logically i would just say that no i think

06:20:59.940 i mean from my experience i think that ugly i think that ugly men getting rejected by women and

06:21:06.400 women sneering at them is even worse than when um you know men are rejectful towards women who are

06:21:12.560 ugly but i think women who are ugly still get fucked and yeah that's true they don't that's true but

06:21:18.400 any woman can be a slut i think that yeah i think that any if you're if you have a vagina you can get a

06:21:25.220 dick yeah that's not true for men or for people with a penis so you're fine in love they're still

06:21:30.160 fine in love no it's not it's not that it's like i'm saying that a man will treat a woman that he

06:21:38.000 finds unattractive worse than he treats a man that he finds unattractive like yeah but based what are

06:21:47.440 you basing that on based on my experiences wait wouldn't the comparison here be though the way women

06:21:52.980 treat ugly men versus the way men treat ugly women because you're saying the way men treat

06:21:59.140 ugly men and yeah that's fair actually the way men treat ugly women and i think women treat ugly

06:22:05.260 men way better than men treat ugly women wait you think sorry repeat that i think women treat ugly

06:22:10.900 men better than better yeah wait men will we've had i don't i don't want to actually say that as far

06:22:18.100 as like the women we've had on the show we've had ugly women who get chivalry they'll get dates

06:22:26.620 they'll get because men are desperate they'll have a body count well then they're getting treated better

06:22:31.260 then they're getting treated better at least you can have a warm body for a night for a lot of these

06:22:35.640 women we've had women who can bro we have we had this one woman who was not a looker over very

06:22:41.260 overweight she fucks six guys in a day okay she was a sex addict a hundred men there was another

06:22:47.700 chicken it was like 400 pounds and she was all she wanted it was an all-you-can-eat buffet for this

06:22:53.380 chick i think literally on two different on two different let you talk but like it's crazy so

06:22:59.120 these girls looks equivalents would be virgins or incels yeah i think the difference though oh sorry

06:23:08.440 sorry um all i was all i was just gonna say is that as a woman even if you're unattractive

06:23:14.520 you can still get male attention you can still get a date you can still get a warm body maybe it's

06:23:19.800 not the ideal suitor maybe you know you don't want that but you can still get it and a lot of them opt

06:23:25.380 to still get it whereas men they live a life of quiet desperation yeah but at least they can have

06:23:32.660 like okay so this is the difference i think is that men treat okay it's hard to explain but um

06:23:41.900 so ugly men get treated better by men in general they get treated the same um i think i think ugly

06:23:50.820 women and ugly men get treated the same sure i have something on this continue yeah ugly women and ugly

06:23:56.560 men probably get treated around the same sure by the opposite sex um but i think so ugly so so so men

06:24:04.500 treat ugly women worse than they treat ugly men yes but then i could just say this women treat ugly men

06:24:17.560 way fucking worse than they treat ugly women but i think women treat ugly women better than they better

06:24:25.140 than men treat ugly women okay i don't know how you would okay so so hang on you're saying you're

06:24:32.200 literally saying the same thing he's saying so it's like a fucked up game of rock paper scissors right so

06:24:36.660 you're like okay yeah really you're like okay so ugly men ugly ugly men are treated better by men

06:24:44.000 than women and then ugly women are treated better by women than men and then you see you counter and you

06:24:49.740 say okay yeah but i guess that's fair you say but um you know men are treating ugly women worse and

06:24:57.460 then the camera i feel like i need to write this down men are treating ugly you know what i mean

06:25:01.100 it's this big giant circle but you're saying the exact same thing the same sex treats the ugly people

06:25:07.000 better than the opposite sex does that's what you're saying i think that

06:25:13.080 in comparison like

06:25:18.000 it's it's hard to explain i think that i think that that's it's been explained i think that's

06:25:25.360 exactly what you mean right no girls treat ugly women treat ugly people better than men treat ugly

06:25:33.760 people i think they just treat people better than men treat people by the metrics of women right

06:25:39.900 i feel like we're just getting into like such a big i'm happy to move it yeah me too uh going to

06:25:47.060 you are women are you women oppressed or am i oppressed i'm not oppressed i'm living the life i

06:25:52.680 want but are women oppressed yeah yeah like in the workplace especially with the wages and uh

06:25:59.200 yeah go to the police department if you have an issue if a woman has an issue a lot of the time

06:26:03.680 their issue will not be even oh well listen i have to go back to my anecdote here so the police

06:26:09.440 actually came the police came when i was attacked now let's put a woman in my situation so here's

06:26:16.620 what happened with my case the individuals were actually located i had to do a lot of the uh leg

06:26:24.820 work for that was able to find the individuals the police interviewed them they confessed to

06:26:31.000 assaulting me confessed on body camera i have the body camera footage yeah i followed up with the

06:26:37.240 district attorney's office for months months they confessed on camera to the police and in a statement

06:26:43.980 the district attorney did not pursue the charges did they tell you that it wasn't as important as

06:26:50.000 other cases specifically yeah they dropped the case had it been a woman who got chased down the street

06:26:56.400 by three men and attacked and not mind you felony level property destruction my two thousand dollar

06:27:03.780 camera was destroyed they said we're not i forgot exactly what they said it was a while ago we're not

06:27:12.100 gonna pursue it i guarantee you had i been a woman they would have prosecuted those guys they let them get

06:27:17.660 they let them go completely there wasn't there wasn't even a diversion program speaking of police i don't

06:27:23.900 understand how you could say that police are oppressive to women they let them off from speeding tickets

06:27:29.580 all the time they um they literally give them passes on all sorts of things even as far as um as

06:27:38.320 physical restraints right if a male officer needs to restrain a female they'll often actually call

06:27:45.140 another female officer over so that they don't even touch them they don't even have to touch them

06:27:48.900 yeah they do and they they'll do it for duis they'll do it for duis too they'll do it for duis

06:27:54.360 as well they'll have female officers come in and do the pat downs this all sorts of privilege whereas

06:27:58.900 a guy's like get up on that fucking hood right they don't care they don't give a shit so just just

06:28:05.080 wanted to point that out that like uh no i think that there's a lot more privilege that women get from

06:28:09.260 police officer encounters than men that's for sure final thing on on my own anecdote here uh if

06:28:15.380 there's any doubts as to so i had to go to civil court it could you know they could have handled

06:28:21.160 it they could have criminally pursued it and they could have got me restitution without me having to

06:28:25.340 go through the labor and have to like go to court yeah uh get them served etc i won the civil case

06:28:33.300 the judge granted me i forgot what's it called when the uh damages he um no no he he uh decided the case

06:28:43.660 in my favor uh he awarded me a judgment against them right uh that could have i could have all been

06:28:52.040 avoided had the da done their job had i been a woman pretty sure they wouldn't have let those guys off

06:29:01.380 off the hook for doing felony level uh property damage and then assault and battery but hey maybe

06:29:08.480 that's just me is the the da here yeah this was yeah the da here in santa barbara sucks like really

06:29:15.380 badly you should should walk inside yeah we're not gonna get it yeah we're not gonna say that on a

06:29:19.700 sorry yeah we're not gonna say that on the podcast that would be a bad idea okay anyways that was my

06:29:27.620 experience look that was my experience so this idea that oh it'll get taken more seriously if you're

06:29:34.640 a man yeah it's actually not true not true at all so uh let's see what else do we have we have uh

06:29:43.100 uh roast yes oh i guess maybe uh do we need men yes yeah i do do you think men are important yes

06:29:54.020 yeah yes all right uh we'll do the roast section here in just a sec i think i have one more question

06:30:02.280 uh what years were world war what years were world war one and world war two starting with you go

06:30:10.460 ahead like 1941 world war one i don't know maybe 1942 go around the table okay i have no idea world

06:30:18.800 war two 80s wait world war two i have no fucking world war one was like 1914 i thought and world war

06:30:27.800 two is like i don't even know okay world war two 1940 40 i would say world war one no world war two

06:30:38.560 yeah what about world war one 1800 or 1900s 1900s 1900s in what i don't know okay yeah i don't know

06:30:47.260 1914 to 1918 and then 1939 and 1945 okay we were told the answer to this and still didn't fucking know

06:30:56.420 tts is 20 we'll do a roast session then we're gonna wrap the show so get your roasts in roast

06:31:03.720 andrew andrew needs to be roasted he needs a roast she needs a roast she needs big roast big bigly

06:31:14.260 bigly roast so tts guys is 20 if you want to get a roast and also guys go to twitch.tv

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06:32:26.040 say that almost almost not bro i'm very close what you don't look overweight at all that's because i

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06:33:39.900 dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars women don't understand that even the

06:33:47.000 ugliest women turn into eight after two shots of tequila they have privileges they just won't admit

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06:34:23.940 i believe i can fly i believe i can touch the sky why am i singing r kelly

06:34:35.040 you don't like uh his music even though he's a no bro i think i think about it every night and day

06:34:41.760 me and andrew are gonna start a band no we're not don't say that andrew you promised me

06:34:48.740 oh you said you were this was before i found out about your whole burrito thing

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06:35:37.820 every time she speaks but like a broken clock i'm sure she'll occasionally be right but she you click

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06:35:53.220 okay that's good uh what else what andrew can you do a effect voice what effect do you know this word

06:36:07.100 no let me google it just make sure i'm using it right a fat affected of a man behaving in a way

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06:36:21.580 rachel irl on the podcast we're working on it we got stuff yeah we got stuff coming the td thank you

06:36:28.600 very much it'll happen one of these days oh sorry oh

06:36:35.960 the oh thing oh yeah hold on i got it this is how you really do it okay fuck where is it

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06:36:59.220 that was beautiful that was that was so good thank you thank you joe andrew over here looking

06:37:09.020 like a discount wolverine i'm tired of people calling brian fat he's just got an ass bigger than

06:37:13.380 any dream of mine bro uh thank you i think you know what i mean then i shave the beard and people

06:37:27.920 freak out worse don't shave the beard keep the beard the beard is good uh the beard is good

06:37:37.040 so uh after this uh that guy you guys gonna have carnal no oh my god what the fuck oh my god that's not

06:37:47.740 appropriate you need to it's okay you need to not

06:37:54.160 think of the children not think of the children i do that's why i was single for a year like before i

06:38:03.400 even like started really going on dates and shit right i don't know what during the emotional affair

06:38:07.860 i don't know what i'm saying disregard the marriage is over at that point anyway all right boys i just

06:38:14.700 want to say i don't know if you guys can see it in the thing um this stream does not end until i get

06:38:21.100 a w in solitaire so um andrew you have any questions for the panel just while the in in-betweens um

06:38:28.300 hey what could you take your notes yeah let me see the notes okay truth donated twenty dollars

06:38:34.460 brian you get called misogynist because you treat males different in studio try very angrily telling

06:38:41.600 a male they are f-hashing our slurred like you have done to females you wouldn't dare i mean i do it

06:38:47.740 all the time just to be fair that's why i said i do it constantly i i'm pretty sure if i heard a guy

06:38:54.400 say some arslered shit i would i think i would say it i'm i think i would say it you know and also

06:39:04.660 i'm very polite when the two male feminists were here you called them a bunch of names did i yeah

06:39:11.180 yeah well i was asking like the they both wanted to they'd prefer the girl with the like thousand

06:39:18.800 body count i asked that question they're like yeah give me the thousand body count over the virgin

06:39:23.360 yeah they're degenerates yeah they were fucking they're right but i'm saying that's the common

06:39:28.460 thing these days yeah but okay so but here's the thing for fucking degenerates wait that that wasn't

06:39:33.520 the argument though i was just saying it exists well this is cope that's called frank castle 512

06:39:41.360 donated twenty dollars you should have rachel irl and andrew would call in he looks cooler and

06:39:48.200 comfortable smoking his cigarettes and drinking his beers in the comfortable of his home we can do

06:39:53.260 it the marriage was over before it started it was over before it started dreaming about the ex

06:40:02.520 she had donated twenty dollars you say think of the children sure now i'm the first to admit i

06:40:10.700 didn't turn out to be the parent i imagined i would become but to be fair my imaginary children

06:40:17.020 were much better than this el chapo donated twenty dollars brian what do you think about having a

06:40:25.020 third show on like thursdays or something i feel like we need the show three times a week

06:40:30.400 i don't count the irl ones here i'll pause it really quick thoughts hold on i'll get to framework

06:40:36.380 engineer donated twenty dollars thank you framework the toxic guy check cheats on husband

06:40:42.460 check finds religion check talks about growing check blames her husband for her own cheating

06:40:49.360 check re-enters toxic relationship full circle he wasn't toxic it was me uh el chapo

06:40:56.860 i don't know if i i might even bring the show down to one day in 2025 third show guest recruitment's

06:41:10.340 already difficult doing the two uh i'm gonna do an assessment when i'm gonna we're gonna take a bit

06:41:19.420 of a break in uh towards the uh end of december we'll take a little vacation been going hard for a full

06:41:26.100 year all gas no breaks might go down to just one day um it's been kind of crazy recently very stressful

06:41:33.900 so uh i know you guys might not be happy with that but if it comes if i can continue the show

06:41:42.980 and do it one day versus burnout by early 2025 then i think it makes sense but um i appreciate that

06:41:52.820 were you did you have something on this or no okay get underscore few donated twenty dollars

06:42:00.420 bullshit women treat ugly men way worse there's an entire subculture to bully ugly men he's creepy

06:42:08.060 icky gross it's still humanizing and they judge identical behavior differently based on attraction

06:42:15.020 that's a really good point i donated twenty dollars for chair one what do we call it when

06:42:21.040 someone exchanges goods slash money slash services like lawyer fees for sex sounds pretty traditional

06:42:28.400 to me traditional prostitution or you take care of the woman you're with truth donated twenty dollars

06:42:34.520 i love the pod and i'm a big fan but you would never display the same level of tempered frustration

06:42:40.540 to a male as you have done regularly to females speaking to brian and you know why you wouldn't

06:42:47.460 don becker donated twenty dollars honch twins are you man enough to debate andrew and brian

06:42:53.840 also ladies you have to pick one would you date andrew or brian

06:42:57.700 is that appropriate for us to answer about a married man like that's not i don't think that's okay

06:43:05.200 um uh i mean you guys can i think they're gonna take a pass on that one none of them are going for

06:43:15.180 it daniel nostri donated twenty dollars most of these democrat women have got on their knees and

06:43:21.220 stuffed to bbc in all of their orifices simply to prove they are politically non-racist

06:43:26.800 welcome to la 2024 that's crazy captain awesome donated twenty dollars thank you captain i hear that

06:43:34.460 whatever podcast has been keeping women captive in the basement it is true no water yeah food

06:43:40.040 or abuse sign me up i've been trying to lose weight yeah a lot of abuse edgerton's donated twenty

06:43:47.860 dollars how high does morgan need to get to sit there for eight hours looking like elliot

06:43:53.000 spitzer's miserable wife who's oh the politician

06:43:57.380 yeah yeah yeah yeah any final thoughts from any of the panelists before we wrap the show up i'm not

06:44:11.320 gonna win this i'll i'll do one more deal hold on let me get a better deal gaming dishwasher 144 donated

06:44:21.080 twenty dollars peekaboo just wanted to donate to the find again thank you man also high from new

06:44:27.640 zealand you're kiwi oh gaming dishwasher gaming dishwasher what wait gaming dishwasher what there's a

06:44:38.660 gaming dishwasher like he games on his dishwasher plays like plays like snake or some shit on the

06:44:46.480 dishwasher he programmed his dishwasher dishwasher so you can play tetris snake galaga how do you program

06:44:55.160 a woman to do those things you can't because they don't have an interface

06:45:03.360 okay man because when he said the dishwasher oh

06:45:12.040 roth underscore bsa donated twenty dollars andrew since people talked on your shave you have gone

06:45:20.080 epic bit but that isn't a pompadour rick astley go epic redhead pump oh seven at whatever yo wrath

06:45:28.680 thank you so much man appreciate it i think this is going to be a w here because i got three aces

06:45:34.240 already so dariel underscore frank castle 512 donated twenty dollars thank you man how about starting the

06:45:41.580 shows earlier or shorter it's hard for some of us to stay up and support with tts till 3 a.m

06:45:48.580 i have to be up at 5 a.m to drive a semi through nyc so it's rough on no sleep

06:45:54.300 oh that's fair uh we used to do the show well i mean we used to start the shows at 7 p.m

06:45:59.360 then we brought it down to 5 p.m i don't think it would be realistic for us to be able to do it

06:46:03.960 i mean it could be done but like we have to be considerate of like the

06:46:07.240 prospective guest schedules vansomnia donated twenty dollars

06:46:11.820 love when you ask what they bring to the table when they have these unrealistic wants from men

06:46:17.460 salary height etc but yet complain when they keep dating the same type of men over and over

06:46:23.360 that's a good gaming dishwasher 144 donated twenty dollars in the girl btw get the joke now well

06:46:33.040 i mean i understood it from the beginning oh that's a woman probably explains why it wasn't funny

06:46:39.320 just kidding i'm kidding it's a joke no it's not a joke it's not a joke i'm joking i'm not a

06:46:48.020 misogynist like you andrew i'm working on it it's despicable despicable guys i think this is a big w

06:46:56.660 i'm just i'm almost there you're gonna lose that's what you don't jinx it like last time andrew

06:47:03.300 don't jinx it yeah you can't win that no i got this bro you can't win it's done it's a w

06:47:09.700 it's don't put pressure on me andrew it's gonna be big very sensitive i don't perform well when i

06:47:16.840 have pressure okay hold on get the get the lint roller do the daniel mccoy donated twenty five

06:47:23.600 dollars ladies if you're walking down the mountain road and a bear steps out in front of you and a

06:47:29.760 strange man pulls up behind you in a truck and says get in what are you doing i'm getting in the

06:47:35.860 fucking car i don't i'll take my chance yeah check this out boys all right i'll turn it

06:47:39.860 so you guys can can you hide the tts thing for a little bit just a second here

06:47:44.040 what the fuck huh what what you're gonna lose dude don't say that andrew lose bro don't say that

06:47:51.380 check this out boys fucking gaming stream boys fuck this dating shit i'm gonna start playing world

06:47:57.480 of warcraft okay hold on let me just take a look here there's no way i lose this andrew hold on

06:48:04.780 you're gonna lose don't jinx it don't uh-oh wait uh wait seven hey you guys can still send in the

06:48:18.040 tts but um okay i'm in a bit of a pickle here hold on it's gonna be an l brine don't no no no no no no

06:48:24.780 no no no no no no no no no no no i can i got this so i have to get this six this six has to be

06:48:45.360 eight oh no no wait no don't say that andrew wait the seven oh wait there's the seven okay so i need

06:48:55.020 to get an eight hold on i can do this wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

06:49:00.660 L, bro.

06:49:01.300 Don't say that, Andrew.

06:49:03.960 He's coming.

06:49:07.960 Okay, the four is free.

06:49:11.880 Wait.

06:49:13.500 Where's the other?

06:49:14.060 Yeah, you know, if somebody could do the recruitment for me, I probably could do three shows a day, but I'd handle all the recruiting and guest stuff, so I should probably, I don't know, we'll see.

06:49:41.560 We'll figure it out.

06:49:42.760 I got this, Andrew.

06:49:43.780 Don't worry.

06:49:44.660 I can still get the dub.

06:49:47.380 I don't know.

06:49:49.200 It's not looking good.

06:49:51.240 You want to?

06:49:52.500 No, I got this.

06:49:53.740 I got this.

06:49:54.660 Hold on.

06:49:55.980 So I need the three here, and what I need is this five cleared, but I can't get rid of the four.

06:50:03.640 Oh, my God.

06:50:04.480 I'm a fucking idiot.

06:50:06.040 Oh, no.

06:50:07.400 Wait.

06:50:07.920 I could have gone here, and then I could have gone here.

06:50:11.460 I just don't.

06:50:14.440 Wait.

06:50:14.940 What's this?

06:50:17.880 Fuck, bro.

06:50:21.660 I think this is a loss.

06:50:24.420 L.

06:50:24.820 How do I have all?

06:50:32.140 Oh, my God, dude.

06:50:34.720 Okay.

06:50:35.280 I concede.

06:50:36.420 I have to concede this game.

06:50:37.860 All right.

06:50:40.360 Fuck.

06:50:42.200 Good talk.

06:50:43.600 All right, guys.

06:50:43.960 Final call.

06:50:44.460 Last call on the TTS.

06:50:45.340 Last call on TTS.

06:50:48.060 Andrew is Tyler Durden, and Brian is Ed Norton.

06:50:51.280 Project Mayhem 2025.

06:50:53.400 Wait.

06:50:53.540 What's that?

06:50:54.400 His name is Robert Paulson.

06:50:55.860 Oh, Tyler Durden.

06:50:58.540 Andrew and Brian is Ed Norton.

06:51:00.340 So I'm the narrator.

06:51:01.380 Okay.

06:51:02.200 Well, thank you, man.

06:51:02.820 I appreciate that.

06:51:03.500 Thank you, everybody, who sent in the low messages.

06:51:06.120 Very much.

06:51:06.980 Appreciate it.

06:51:08.660 Okay.

06:51:09.180 We are going to...

06:51:11.500 We are going to...

06:51:13.120 How do you say?

06:51:14.960 I think what we do is...

06:51:18.060 I have to say...

06:51:19.500 Alpha Smasher donated $20.

06:51:22.140 Why doesn't Batman like Solitaire?

06:51:24.940 There's no Joker.

06:51:30.380 Terrible.

06:51:30.860 I am never going to financially recover from this.

06:51:34.460 Jesse underscore James underscore I'd underscore raw underscore I donated $20.

06:51:40.460 Happy birthday, Natalia.

06:51:42.560 I hope it's been the best day.

06:51:44.800 Whatever sweethearts, purple hearts, love, Monster Jess.

06:51:49.680 Who's Natalia?

06:51:50.900 Is that somebody at the table who I don't know your name?

06:51:53.520 Who the fuck is that guy?

06:51:55.600 Who's Natalia?

06:51:56.700 Okay.

06:51:57.140 Thank you, man.

06:51:57.960 Thank you, Jesse.

06:51:58.600 Appreciate it.

06:51:59.780 Let's see here.

06:52:00.540 Okay.

06:52:01.320 Well, if you want, you can get your last in.

06:52:03.840 But GG.

06:52:04.560 Well played.

06:52:05.440 To the panel.

06:52:08.080 Does anybody here do OnlyFans?

06:52:09.380 Vansomnia donated $20.

06:52:10.440 Oh, no, you do.

06:52:11.120 Yes.

06:52:11.960 As a 33 years man, everything I have is because of my own effort.

06:52:16.880 When women find someone real, they get scared.

06:52:20.060 In this society, it's so easy to just swipe to the next guy keeping them in the same spiral.

06:52:25.540 Spot on, Dan.

06:52:26.480 Spot on, Dan.

06:52:27.100 Daniel Nosseri donated $20.

06:52:29.420 Wait.

06:52:29.920 His name was Robert Paulson.

06:52:31.740 Wait, this is my...

06:52:32.320 I have...

06:52:33.400 That's it working out for you.

06:52:34.900 I've never pressed these.

06:52:36.260 Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

06:52:39.220 I have Fight Club.

06:52:41.100 Do I have any more?

06:52:41.980 Crank Farsal donated $30.

06:52:44.800 Andrew, can you do the Palpatine voice?

06:52:47.200 Smile.

06:52:53.300 The Palpatine voice?

06:52:54.400 Yeah.

06:52:55.300 Ah, shit.

06:52:58.360 Now I have to do it on the spot.

06:52:59.620 Let's see.

06:53:00.080 Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

06:53:02.420 Garrett Nichols donated $20.

06:53:04.220 It surprises me that women don't fight back transgenderism.

06:53:09.240 It's lowering your value.

06:53:11.020 It's like a wish version of you.

06:53:12.900 Fight back the fakes.

06:53:15.820 The greatest meme I ever saw was, like, a woman going back in time on a time machine

06:53:20.580 and, like, a transgender woman saying,

06:53:22.860 thank you so much for giving us rights to vote.

06:53:26.380 And I'm just saying.

06:53:27.600 Dude.

06:53:30.220 I'm going to get serious to vote.

06:53:34.560 Okay.

06:53:35.400 All right.

06:53:36.180 So, GG, well played to the panel.

06:53:38.740 We're going to do a Twitch raid.

06:53:41.440 Who are we going to raid?

06:53:42.180 Who are we going to raid?

06:53:44.500 Let's see.

06:53:45.700 We will do...

06:53:46.840 We just did Whoa Grandma.

06:53:48.000 Do Whoa Grandma again.

06:53:51.680 All right.

06:53:52.140 We'll do Whoa Grandma.

06:53:52.880 Wholesome moment, I guess.

06:53:54.240 Yeah.

06:53:54.580 All right.

06:53:55.120 So, oh, last thing.

06:53:55.960 Let's pull up...

06:53:56.540 Okay, let's pull up Twitch.

06:53:57.380 I know she's got Fig Newtons, dude.

06:53:59.320 She looks like she has Fig.

06:54:00.640 Somebody ask her if she has Fig Newtons.

06:54:02.280 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:54:05.640 Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

06:54:11.040 That's twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:54:14.960 Drop us a prime sub if you have one.

06:54:25.460 You can go to Amazon.

06:54:26.940 If you have Amazon, you link it to your Amazon Prime.

06:54:30.040 You link it to your Twitch.

06:54:31.200 It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show.

06:54:33.460 Every single month.

06:54:34.260 It's been 22 minutes since we last got a prime.

06:54:36.240 I think it's bug boys.

06:54:37.280 Yo, before we end the show, Dutch, PlayStation Gamer.

06:54:39.920 Thank you for the prime.

06:54:40.380 Can we get to 92,500?

06:54:45.180 Help my OCD out.

06:54:46.400 Guys, we need eight follows.

06:54:48.480 Eight follows.

06:54:49.320 If you got the follow button available, help my OCD.

06:54:52.840 Get us to 92,500 followers before we end the stream.

06:54:57.780 We got the Discord.

06:54:58.880 Discord.gg slash whatever.

06:55:00.120 We also have debateuniversity.com.

06:55:02.260 This is the craziest course ever.

06:55:03.540 It's the best course.

06:55:04.780 It's the best.

06:55:06.140 Yo, thank you for all the follow.

06:55:07.600 Silverhand, that guy plays World of Warcraft.

06:55:09.320 For sure, Big Dad Walrus.

06:55:11.760 That's not the only big thing he has.

06:55:13.620 We got Squirrely Whirly.

06:55:15.000 He's the squirrely guy.

06:55:16.480 We got Syntax.

06:55:18.700 Syntax.

06:55:19.420 We got NSYNC.

06:55:21.020 We got Nacho Deegs.

06:55:22.720 He likes them nachos and the burritos.

06:55:25.240 We got Ericsson, 1207.

06:55:27.540 Look at that guy, Ericsson.

06:55:28.660 He's probably Swedish or it's Norwegian.

06:55:32.280 We got Dialt, 250.

06:55:34.420 You know him.

06:55:35.100 He's a great guy.

06:55:36.220 Oh, who we got here?

06:55:37.040 The Dutch PlayStation Gamer.

06:55:39.540 He dropped us a Prime first, then dropped us the follow.

06:55:42.620 We got Kind of Hero.

06:55:44.140 Oh, my goodness.

06:55:45.540 We got Psychedelic Gorilla.

06:55:47.380 He likes to do drugs with primates.

06:55:50.980 What a fucking guy.

06:55:52.240 Johnny Spiral.

06:55:53.280 Fucking spiraling out of this universe.

06:55:55.420 Thank you, bro.

06:55:56.240 We got Welsh Sals.

06:55:58.360 That guy, that's a sexual innuendo.

06:56:01.280 He's kind of disgusting.

06:56:01.680 But don't forget Batsack or Coca.

06:56:03.260 We got Temperance UK.

06:56:06.320 All right.

06:56:06.720 Temperance Movement.

06:56:08.340 Dope.

06:56:08.980 Tatted Kitty.

06:56:10.600 I'm sorry that it's hard for you to find a husband because of that.

06:56:14.440 Daniel Nosseri donated $20.

06:56:17.320 Core Hammer.

06:56:18.160 You are in the screaming, all-steaming crap of the world.

06:56:22.300 A lot of Fight Club references.

06:56:23.760 You know, uh, you know, it's, wait, fuck, I was gonna, I got something, hold on, I got,

06:56:30.400 wait, I got something, um, it, uh, it's, uh, you know, advertising has us chasing cars

06:56:37.900 and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need, slaves with white collars.

06:56:44.640 I see in chat, hold on, I see in chat the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived.

06:56:53.780 I see all this potential and I see squandering, goddammit, an entire generation pumping gas,

06:57:01.680 waiting tables, slaves with, I already said this, fuck, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.

06:57:10.420 We're the middle, hold on, let me finish, hold on.

06:57:12.440 I am Brian's big labia.

06:57:14.820 I am Brian's medulla on my body.

06:57:18.020 I am Brian's big labia.

06:57:20.180 We're the middle children of history, man.

06:57:22.840 No purpose or place.

06:57:24.960 We have no great war, no great depression.

06:57:29.600 Our great war is a spiritual war.

06:57:32.900 Sorry, don't look at me, I'm going to make you laugh.

06:57:35.440 Our great depression is our lives.

06:57:38.560 We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars, but we won't.

06:57:46.480 And we're slowly learning that fact.

06:57:48.600 And we're very, very pissed off.

06:57:54.260 Nailed it!

06:57:55.000 Sort of.

06:57:57.220 I'm just like a wind of energy.

06:57:58.200 Sort of.

06:57:58.840 Okay, bring it back to Twitch.

06:58:00.160 I need to shout out all those followers.

06:58:03.040 Bring it back to Twitch.

06:58:04.880 Back to Twitch.

06:58:07.400 That's Twitch.

06:58:09.980 Yo, who do we got?

06:58:11.160 We got African Soup.

06:58:13.360 Mmm.

06:58:14.240 Yum.

06:58:15.000 Wacko Warm.

06:58:15.860 Does it have cat in it?

06:58:17.480 Whoa.

06:58:18.780 Wacko Warm.

06:58:20.020 That's okay.

06:58:20.640 We got Big Daddy Mike 88.

06:58:23.380 This guy was born in the...

06:58:25.400 Never mind.

06:58:26.580 Blue Reapers.

06:58:28.820 That's not the only thing he reaps.

06:58:31.380 He also reaps dividends because he invests with his money in a diversified stock portfolio.

06:58:40.480 He reaps blue chip stocks.

06:58:43.380 Ooh, that was good.

06:58:44.900 Thank you.

06:58:45.980 You're welcome.

06:58:46.700 Old School Pick Gaming.

06:58:50.560 Epic Gaming.

06:58:52.860 That's cool.

06:58:53.740 Fluffy Mutt 2010.

06:58:55.480 Wow, look at that.

06:58:56.260 Guys, get us to 92,550 before the end of the show.

06:59:00.060 What you got for us, Andrew?

06:59:01.040 What's up?

06:59:01.840 Well, I just noticed that that guy followed you.

06:59:03.740 That's all.

06:59:04.160 Oh, that's...

06:59:04.760 It's great, isn't it?

06:59:05.680 Yeah, that other guy just followed you, too.

06:59:07.560 It's crazy.

06:59:08.420 But also that one, too.

06:59:10.280 Sky High Netherlands.

06:59:12.180 Wow.

06:59:13.240 He's going to have to be sky high after the whole country floods.

06:59:16.440 But they're really good with engineering.

06:59:19.740 Dude, we don't watch your Prime sub, Iron Fatty.

06:59:22.780 None of you around here.

06:59:24.560 Unbelievable.

06:59:24.760 Now, check this out.

06:59:25.640 Iron Fatty, 77.

06:59:27.160 This guy was alive in the 70s.

06:59:32.280 Kind of...

06:59:32.900 Were you...

06:59:33.520 When were you born, Andrew?

06:59:34.520 I wasn't born in the fucking 70s, bro.

06:59:36.960 79?

06:59:37.500 No!

06:59:38.280 The Dungeon Station gamer donated $20.

06:59:40.080 Yeah, you're fucking mine.

06:59:40.960 Andrew and Brian, tell us, how would you plan a date in the current dating environment?

06:59:46.480 Because women seem to be FFing hard to even get a conversation started, let alone date.

06:59:51.780 I hear that there's a...

06:59:52.960 Jail Wisdom.

06:59:53.540 I hear that there's a five-for-five deal at the Wendy's.

06:59:58.860 Frank Castle donated $30.

07:00:01.780 You streaming later, Andrew?

07:00:03.860 Or you gotta catch a flight?

07:00:05.300 Well, I have something I gotta do tomorrow, so...

07:00:08.180 One more day.

07:00:10.740 Thank you, Frank Castle.

07:00:11.920 Appreciate it.

07:00:13.880 What was the super chat asking?

07:00:15.880 How would you plan a date in the current dating environment?

07:00:19.300 This is what I would do.

07:00:20.400 I would say...

07:00:22.400 Hi.

07:00:34.320 Come over.

07:00:35.360 That's it.

07:00:35.760 That's all I would do.

07:00:36.940 Come over.

07:00:37.440 Keep it simple.

07:00:39.860 Keep it simple.

07:00:41.940 Keep your hands to yourself.

07:00:43.540 I'm not that kind of guy.

07:00:45.400 I don't do that on a first date.

07:00:47.600 You girls...

07:00:48.400 All you girls want is one thing, and it's disgusting.

07:00:52.900 Money?

07:00:53.620 Women want one...

07:00:54.860 Only one thing.

07:00:56.060 No, they want sex.

07:00:56.620 Money?

07:00:57.420 All these girls...

07:00:58.960 They just...

07:00:59.460 All you guys want is sex.

07:01:00.760 Sometimes a guy wants to cuddle.

07:01:02.280 Can't a guy talk?

07:01:03.900 Can't we just talk?

07:01:04.780 You just want to...

07:01:06.200 Can't...

07:01:06.800 Can't...

07:01:07.560 I want you to just hold me.

07:01:09.160 But no.

07:01:09.800 All you want to do is have sex.

07:01:13.700 Pisses me off, man.

07:01:15.060 Roth underscore PSA donated $20.

07:01:17.800 All right.

07:01:18.060 Way out of the line.

07:01:18.440 That sounded like a good prologue to your upcoming book.

07:01:21.640 God damn it.

07:01:22.060 Twitch chat better than YouTube.

07:01:24.440 Shots fired.

07:01:25.400 Boom.

07:01:25.780 Shots fired.

07:01:26.320 Wrath.

07:01:26.840 Roth.

07:01:27.900 Thank you, man.

07:01:28.300 Appreciate it.

07:01:28.780 Okay.

07:01:29.400 Let me...

07:01:30.080 Okay.

07:01:31.580 Thank you for all the followers on Twitch.

07:01:33.400 Let's see here.

07:01:34.580 I got to do my little outro spiel.

07:01:36.840 Oh, Debate University.

07:01:38.300 Guys, you got to go to debateuniversity.com.

07:01:42.440 Got to go to debateuniversity.com.

07:01:44.300 Get the course.

07:01:45.680 Verbal combat.

07:01:46.800 If you want to obliterate your foes and master debate on some hoes, that's what's up.

07:01:55.520 I just made that up off the top of my dome.

07:01:58.900 So, listen.

07:02:00.900 Guys.

07:02:02.500 80 plus videos.

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07:02:17.480 Do you want to fucking spank up, serve up your liberal relatives at the dinner table and make shit awkward?

07:02:26.360 And it's right around, you know, election season.

07:02:29.280 You know, we're coming into a big election.

07:02:32.500 You have to, you know, you have to stop these progressive scumbags in their tracks immediately.

07:02:37.740 For shizzle.

07:02:38.540 It's true.

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07:02:41.200 So, at debateuniversity.com.

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07:02:48.900 Also, like the video.

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07:02:53.660 So, guys.

07:02:55.300 Thank you.

07:02:55.660 Also, buy it at Debate University.

07:02:57.300 Also.

07:02:58.160 Purple Combat.

07:02:58.700 Yeah, I'll also do that.

07:03:00.420 Yeah, I'll also do that.

07:03:02.720 So, thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.

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07:03:12.340 We will be live again, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.

07:03:18.380 Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

07:03:19.980 I have a special guest from...

07:03:21.900 Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.

07:03:26.820 Would Andrew consider giving a class in person?

07:03:30.080 I wouldn't mind flying out to meet him in person and take the course.

07:03:34.400 We should talk about that, like some in-person event.

07:03:37.400 That could be interesting.

07:03:40.640 We'll see what the future holds.

07:03:42.080 Live again, Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.

07:03:43.500 Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.

07:03:47.660 Sunday show, I've got some special guests coming.

07:03:54.360 I'll give you a hint.

07:03:55.740 But the person, there's a photo in the studio, and this person knows this person.

07:04:13.140 So, we'll see.

07:04:17.260 Okay, all right.

07:04:18.000 So, there's the hint.

07:04:18.940 Okay, 07's in the chat.

07:04:20.440 We're going to do a Twitch raid.

07:04:23.620 Let's do it.

07:04:26.740 To Woe Grandma.

07:04:28.340 Let's not do it to Woe Grandma.

07:04:31.200 Let's raid Woe Grandma.

07:04:33.020 Let's not...

07:04:33.980 Awkward.

07:04:36.320 That was...

07:04:37.700 Could have been...

07:04:39.900 Hey, you know, let's...

07:04:43.300 I don't want a wheelchair over to her nursing home, bro.

07:04:46.860 Don't...

07:04:48.400 She is not in a nursing home.

07:04:51.640 I don't think.

07:04:52.960 She is fully functional.

07:04:54.420 Does she have Fig Newtons, Brian?

07:04:55.960 She does.

07:04:56.980 I know she has Fig Newtons.

07:04:58.040 Ask her if she has Fig Newtons.

07:05:00.100 Somebody ask her if she has Fig Newtons.

07:05:01.480 All right, let's get the audio on.

07:05:02.040 Okay, boys.

07:05:02.560 We're going to raid Woe Grandma.

07:05:05.120 Guys, she's 82.

07:05:05.960 Be nice.

07:05:06.980 We're going to send her a raid.

07:05:08.320 10 seconds.

07:05:09.380 Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.

07:05:11.080 Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.

07:05:12.920 I hope you guys have a good night.

07:05:14.520 Drop us a follow before I send you over there.

07:05:16.140 Drop us a prime sub before I send you over there.

07:05:17.900 Be nice, guys.

07:05:19.540 Tell her what's up.

07:05:20.940 It was yours.

07:05:21.780 All right.

07:05:22.300 Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.

07:05:23.760 Hope you guys have a good night.

07:05:24.700 No.

07:05:25.180 She said something about the evoker, and she got banned for a whole week.

07:05:32.860 I can't believe that.

07:05:35.080 Oh, shit.

07:05:35.840 Am I doing any professions?

07:05:38.440 Oh, shit.

07:05:41.280 I do not have any.

07:05:43.240 Oh, is whatever coming also?

07:05:45.220 So, we have a raid from whatever.

07:05:49.660 I don't have, I don't even like Fig Newtons.

07:06:01.400 Hey there.

07:06:02.800 Welcome.

07:06:04.100 That was good.

07:06:04.880 We were wrong.

07:06:05.980 I was going to have a cookie.

07:06:06.980 It would be double Dutch chocolate cookie.

07:06:08.600 You didn't even realize.

07:06:12.160 All right.

07:06:12.860 That's so funny.

07:06:13.420 You're a raid from whatever.

07:06:14.500 Hello there.

07:06:16.200 All right.

07:06:16.660 They did ask her the great Fig Newtons questions.

07:06:18.940 We got it.

07:06:19.580 We got to always send them over there with a question.

07:06:21.520 Yeah, with a question.

07:06:22.620 Fig Newtons.

07:06:23.880 Is that Jody?

07:06:24.080 Something wholesome.

07:06:24.940 Something wholesome.

07:06:25.740 What?

07:06:25.900 Is that Jody?

07:06:26.680 Have you guys heard of Jody on World of Warcraft?

07:06:29.140 No.

07:06:29.500 Who's that?

07:06:30.040 She's this older woman who spams in the general chats, and is always online.

07:06:35.520 I think goals, dude, to be old in that much life.

07:06:38.580 It's beautiful.

07:06:39.400 I hope I have that.

07:06:39.560 It's beautiful.

07:06:41.600 Let's see here.

07:06:42.420 I just want to make sure.

07:06:43.240 Okay.

07:06:43.500 We're all good on the chats.

07:06:45.420 I'll get on that.

07:06:47.360 Okay.

07:06:48.220 Well, thank you to the panel.

07:06:49.660 Thank you, guys.

07:06:50.320 It was an interesting show.

07:06:52.060 Appreciate you guys coming.

07:06:53.120 I know we got into a little back and forth.

07:06:55.400 It's no hard feelings, you know?

07:06:57.720 No hard feelings.

07:06:58.400 I know I called you an R-slur, but it's all love.

07:07:02.820 I missed the R-slur, but okay.

07:07:04.980 Or who did I call?

07:07:06.300 Maybe I called somebody else an R-slur.

07:07:08.260 I mean, if you didn't, you should have.

07:07:10.000 I probably should have.

07:07:11.000 Why is that word not okay anymore, you know?

07:07:15.720 It's the best word ever.

07:07:17.600 We need to bring it back.

07:07:19.340 I know.

07:07:19.760 I feel the same way.

07:07:21.440 Based?

07:07:21.960 Okay.

07:07:22.200 We can end the show on a common ground.

07:07:25.700 Common ground.

07:07:26.700 Common ground.

07:07:27.020 We got a little, yeah, I think, you know, it should be okay.

07:07:33.900 But there's this push to say, you shouldn't say that word.

07:07:37.100 Everyone says it, so.

07:07:38.320 Yeah, we all say it.

07:07:39.300 You can't help it.

07:07:40.340 I, you know, but there's a push to.

07:07:42.260 It's the funniest word ever.

07:07:44.100 That's all I have to say.

07:07:45.180 Look, if saying idiot is okay, the R-slur should also be okay, you know?

07:07:53.720 And also, you don't call retarded people retards.

07:07:59.300 It's bad taste.

07:08:01.040 You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.

07:08:05.020 With that said, we're going to wrap the show there.

07:08:07.780 07's in the chat.

07:08:09.480 I hope you guys have a good night.

07:08:11.240 We'll see you on Sunday.

07:08:12.720 But, yeah, good night, guys.

07:08:13.960 And see you next time.

Whatever Podcast - October 16, 2024

She MISSED Her Ex While MARRIED？! Her Past DOES NOT Matter？! Andrew Wilson IRL! ｜ Dating Talk #205

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