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00:02:49.640 subscribe before we have our guests introduce themselves um a lot of you have been asking about

00:02:54.880 the thumbnails brian why do you put ai girls in the thumbnails this is a new thing i've started doing

00:03:00.420 um and it just basically comes down to women canceling last minute or no showing so i'm i'm

00:03:06.580 kind of getting tired of constantly having to redo the thumbnails last minute or after the show

00:03:10.560 because the flaking you know taking them out putting someone else in um if i schedule like 10 girls on

00:03:16.260 average at least four are going to flake in 124 hours i've done over 100 shows that's just it's the

00:03:22.040 rule not the exception um we had four girls scheduled for today group of them they bailed last night

00:03:26.600 claiming they had a mandatory meeting with their landlord on a sunday at 6 p.m sounds valid right

00:03:31.560 um so uh honestly and the crazy thing is guys doing this show a lot of you think i'm stressed out

00:03:36.580 doing the show it's actually not so much doing the show it's basically booking everybody and uh

00:03:43.420 scheduling 20 people every single week hoping they show up um like it kind of sucks the life out of

00:03:49.300 you it's a lot harder than people think doing like guest booking and stuff so um i'm gonna probably

00:03:54.660 have to delegate that so nick's probably gonna get on that pretty soon um what else do we have here

00:04:00.080 uh i think there's just uh it happens every single show guys so sometimes i mention it sometimes i

00:04:07.540 don't but just assume every single show we're dealing with flakes we're dealing with people

00:04:10.980 like no shows people are late so it is what it is um so sorry for our delay once again and you're

00:04:17.340 dealing you're going to be dealing with that sort of stuff when it comes to dating but we can get into

00:04:20.260 that a little bit later anyways without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce

00:04:23.300 themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead my name is karen also known

00:04:28.460 as serena i'm 38 i'm from the bay area and i work in the dental field 38 okay welcome thank you

00:04:36.340 hi my name is aileen i'm 24 years old and i'm uh studying at asu as an industrial engineer

00:04:44.260 okay um do you do content creation did i see that or i do yes what do you tiktok oh just tiktok

00:04:52.020 and instagram yeah you're not like doing of or anything no i'm not gotcha what about you diana

00:04:58.180 i'm 40 i'm in the dental field and real estate agent all right welcome my name is yassica you can

00:05:04.900 find me at rojaloka.com and i do only fans age 27 okay and you do you do of correct yes you do

00:05:15.540 traditional scenes or like do you do prong um everything just me do you do solo content pg

00:05:24.020 girl girl what do you do uh just solo content just okay gotcha what about you my name is julia i am 29 i'm

00:05:32.020 from washington dc and i'm a consultant for a technology firm all right welcome uh my name is

00:05:40.020 claudia i'm 34 and i'm a neuropsychologist my name is kate i'm 24 and i'm a pastry chef at moonstone grill

00:05:51.860 all right my name is brandon um i'm 36 years old and i do so many things i don't know which one to pick

00:05:59.380 but uh i do a youtube channel the officer tatum um how long have you been uh and well were you uh

00:06:08.740 you're in the military previously right no i was a police officer for some reason i thought you were

00:06:13.140 in the military before you were a police officer no no no i knew you were a police officer but i thought

00:06:16.900 even before that okay i had aspirations to do it but but uh i just became a cop at what age did you uh

00:06:23.860 get into law enforcement i think i was about 23 years old 23 and for so from what year to what

00:06:28.740 year were you uh how long were you in the force about six and a half years from 2011 to 2017 gotcha

00:06:35.540 and then you started doing content creation yeah yeah i was doing content creation while i was a cop

00:06:39.220 and then it just led to me doing it full time did you get into like any trouble no people love me okay

00:06:43.780 the cops loved me i was like the voice of the police department so that's awesome cool cool cool all

00:06:48.260 right we're gonna go around the table once more so tell us your current relationship status so are

00:06:53.060 you single are you in a relationship talking stage situationship friends with benefits married polycule

00:07:00.340 harem sex cult people are all kinds of interesting and different situations uh so tell us that if you're

00:07:07.700 single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead

00:07:12.340 i'm currently single i just got out of a four-year relationship in may i was in a lesbian relationship

00:07:21.940 um and right now

00:07:25.620 i'm in a situationship okay you're currently seeing somebody sneaky link yeah a sneaky link yeah okay for

00:07:34.420 those who don't know what a sneaky link is what's a sneaky link because some people might not know it's

00:07:38.980 somebody that you're seeing but you don't want nobody to know or they don't want it's kind of

00:07:44.660 like a secret situation okay i see um and you said so your previous relationship which was four years

00:07:50.980 you said that was a lesbian yeah relationship are do you consider yourself to be lesbian are you bi what

00:07:55.540 do you i'm bisexual you're bi okay and the woman who you were with was she bi or was she lesbian

00:08:02.260 she uh claimed to be lesbian claimed to be a lesbian yes but but there's a but it sounds like uh so i just

00:08:19.700 recently found out that um i was cheated on uh with a man she cheated she got with a man she cheated on me

00:08:30.980 with a man was was there more than one man multiple men supposedly from what i heard wow okay yeah

00:08:39.780 and you thought she was full-blown yes she's full like masculine lesbian but she had sex i guess that

00:08:47.940 doesn't really make her a lesbian then right that would make her maybe bi exactly so she was misleading

00:08:55.140 with her um yeah it was she was she was hiding it she was hiding it really well okay all right i mean

00:09:02.260 i had my you know suspicion that you know some things are just the things that she would tell me

00:09:07.700 yeah and the fact that her boy would come over on the weekends that i was out of town even though there

00:09:15.380 was a ring camera so you know there was this one time where i kind of like i thought it was really

00:09:20.980 suspicious were you you guys were living together yeah we were living together oh so you had access

00:09:26.100 to the camera yes and you'd see a guy coming over i see her friend oh oh you you thought it was a

00:09:33.220 friend her boy yeah okay homeboy but they were really lovers they're yeah i guess so supposedly before

00:09:42.260 me they were boyfriend girlfriend okay and so they had a history yeah they had a history she didn't

00:09:48.420 tell you that she didn't she just said that he was super in love with her and he was like obsessed

00:09:54.980 with her she would do anything so he agreed that he can only be he would only you know be friends with

00:10:02.740 her what was your reaction when you found out definitively that she was cheating on you

00:10:07.540 and my heart dropped and i was like i my my my facial expression i think lasted like this for

00:10:15.940 like a whole week because i was so it was stuck it was just like it was just like it was more of a

00:10:22.900 oh my god i was coming home and you know i was putting my mouth on you and there was a man in there

00:10:27.140 you know there was what a man in there oh okay yeah so okay yeah good times yeah good times um

00:10:34.740 um unexpected threesome do you mind me asking what um wait hold on if you're gonna speak you

00:10:40.580 gotta speak into the mic okay you gotta be like close to the mic go ahead um do you mind me asking

00:10:45.700 what you consider yourself i'm bisexual um bisexual okay thanks and like your previous relationships

00:10:53.220 were they um i've had my real real relationships have been with men okay before her but i did have

00:11:03.700 again sneaky links with with women got it okay what about you you're uh yeah so i'm single um my last

00:11:12.740 relationship was like um a month and a half or two months and my longest relationship uh it was two

00:11:20.420 years and a half your last relationship it was a month and a half ago yes i go how and how long was

00:11:26.180 that relationship a month and a half oh your last relationship was a month and a half and it was a

00:11:32.740 month and a half ago yes i see okay all right have you had a rebound since i have not was that the

00:11:40.580 rebound because i that could have been the rebound that was the rebound i guess was it the rebound of the

00:11:47.940 rebound of the rebound if you want to say it yet like that well i don't know you tell me

00:11:56.980 i don't think so no because i was like single for like probably two years and a half and then i got in

00:12:05.140 this relationship before my other one so yeah your friend there is smiling like she knows something that

00:12:10.660 you're not telling us no okay good see i can figure i can figure out who's saying what by their

00:12:17.780 friend's reaction yeah because i saw her react to something she said and i saw her react to something

00:12:22.660 she said yeah kind of like a dating show you were on the day so she was going on dates with different

00:12:30.580 guys to find that guy the love of my life to find the love of your life well yes supposedly yeah what was the

00:12:38.020 dating show it's a latino the bachelorette no it's a latino show yeah so it's like televised can i say

00:12:47.140 the name yeah yeah oh it's called enamorandonos oh my god she knows i guess she watches no i was on it

00:12:55.780 really oh yeah but i would this is your turn so yeah but yeah i did it dated that guy from that show

00:13:03.540 for a month and a half okay all right okay what about you um i've been single for like six years

00:13:12.420 the longest relationship was about almost four four years were you married hell no hell no i will never

00:13:19.620 get married i've been proposed to twice and i took the ring and then i sold it both of them proposed to

00:13:24.980 twice mm-hmm took the ring you sold the ring both of them they're beautiful got money for them how much

00:13:30.900 did you pawn them for one was like 15 and the other one was almost 2000 okay yeah all right so uh

00:13:38.500 never want to get do you have kids i have one i have one adult one adult yeah he's not a kid anymore

00:13:44.980 how old he's 19 okay so you were like 21 when you had your i was 20 i was 20 when i had him i turned 21

00:13:52.500 two months after okay gotcha got it okay uh so you said you've been single for six years yeah but i'm sure

00:13:59.380 there's been some people in the picture that i talked to yeah um are you currently talking to a

00:14:06.100 guy no there's no guy in the picture no nothing nope no sneaky links zero sneaky i don't have patience

00:14:12.420 for a guy i'm i'm busy with my life right now and i just i don't have the patience for one okay i don't

00:14:17.700 zero patience for men zero okay are you have you sworn men off have you sworn them off like tell them

00:14:25.940 like to fuck off no no like in general generally speaking you you've sworn off men like you just

00:14:32.740 no longer want to no i mean i'm pretty sure the perfect one will come along the right one will

00:14:39.460 come along just right now they're they're all trash all all men are the ones yeah why do you say that

00:14:47.860 because a lot of them a lot of them i've had try to come at me where i would find out they were

00:14:53.620 married or they had girlfriends because i'd all of a sudden get random people messaging me how do you

00:15:00.020 know so and so you know and then i'd find out so it's like it's just garbage okay

00:15:10.820 so she says all men are trash pretty much i mean i'm pretty sure there's like a percent there that

00:15:18.660 that's not sure you'd say more more more so trash than not trash what percentage would you have to say

00:15:26.740 like what percentage of men are trash do you think what percent all ages honey because i have there's

00:15:32.100 young guys that try to come to me older guys that try to come so you're saying all men that you have

00:15:37.860 dealt with are trash are you are you making a projection that you think the men that you haven't

00:15:42.340 communicated with yet are trash all the guys i have tried to come towards me are trash

00:15:49.940 just a reminder everybody just try to speak into the microphones if you can get close to them um

00:15:54.020 so what percentage 90 percent 95 percent like like let's say 7.77 yeah 90 because i'm gonna leave

00:16:03.220 a small percentage because there probably really is good guys out there yeah but then if they're the

00:16:08.340 good guys then they're boring you know it's just it's kind of they're oh that's interesting you know

00:16:14.660 there could be the good guys that do try to come and talk to me and they're just

00:16:18.180 you don't like the good guys what do you i mean okay i like them to be i wish there was a solid guy

00:16:27.380 right like a funny solid guy that has his things going for himself has all the things that i have

00:16:33.860 going for myself but it's like you either get a good guy and he's boring or you get a guy who's not

00:16:40.820 boring but he's trashy where are you meeting these guys just everywhere huh just oh where are they

00:16:49.380 approaching you it doesn't matter i could be at a store i could be anywhere what's the first thing

00:16:54.900 they say to you when they approach you do you have a man what's the next one um can i get your number

00:17:03.300 what's your name are you from here and i'm assuming that at least one of those guys you've given your

00:17:10.260 number out you've communicated no i won't give them no i'm saying at some point you've communicated with

00:17:14.980 somebody not them not them okay what makes them boring personality what what about their personality

00:17:24.340 makes them boring like if they're just like like they're just like a boring type that there's no

00:17:30.580 personality they're not funny they're just very plain like bland like that's boring and what about

00:17:35.780 the bad guy excites you hmm it's the chase and the bad guy i don't know no yes let her answer go ahead

00:17:48.980 the bad guy what is it about that i don't know maybe it is the chase i don't know it could be the chase

00:17:54.020 it could well they're exciting it's the looks it's the looks the looks when you say looks what

00:18:00.420 do you are we talking like blasted yeah i like tattoos no not the face tattoos that's what people

00:18:06.100 think i like people think i like face hats i don't like the face tats but i do like a guy with tattoos

00:18:10.660 do you like uh i'm probably the widest person ever saying this do you like a gangster yeah like a thug

00:18:17.620 so well that's your problem so then you're gonna keep repeating a pattern you already have a pattern

00:18:26.020 so then you're gonna keep seeing the same guy so yeah yeah so then how do you plan to get a nice guy

00:18:32.900 but but that's not true though because like i said there's the boring type of guys that are also

00:18:37.620 tatted up too and they're not they're not bad they're they're just it's the personality well when

00:18:43.220 you say they're boring how are they like they're just like i said no no personality they're just

00:18:48.980 very bland you know not only that but and then they're like too on me and i don't like that okay

00:18:54.020 i don't like when a guy's too much on me you're you gotta speak into the mic i think that's like a

00:18:58.340 self-love issue i think i think sometimes if you don't think that you are like you gotta you gotta

00:19:06.420 go closer sorry yeah i was just i was just saying that i think sometimes if you don't think that you

00:19:11.460 deserve that kind of love you'll ignore it when it when it's there and you'll go after the person

00:19:17.700 who's ignoring you because you think that you deserve that but even even if you think that you

00:19:24.100 love yourself sometimes you can do that to yourself just out of i don't know i've done it no i get what

00:19:31.140 you're saying yeah wait so hold on so you said men are trash what do you say like when you say trash

00:19:40.340 they're like kind of toxic kind of oh yeah they're very toxic but you just said that you dislike

00:19:46.500 boring men and you like men who are like i just wish they were like bad boys and exciting so you

00:19:54.180 are like a challenge women often like it seems to me that women often complain about men being toxic

00:20:00.340 but this is the behavior that women reward so men see this you reward assholes you reward jerks you

00:20:07.060 reward the bad boys so men will see that there might genuinely be guys that were just always destined

00:20:12.900 to be the bad boys but some men are going to start acting in a certain way that like we're responding to

00:20:20.820 you guys because we see okay if like you respond to men treating you poorly then some men are going to

00:20:29.140 treat you poorly but the men that normally like are bad boys have some degree of game usually that

00:20:38.500 game comes from they've had lots of practice to like lots of women they have like a decent success rate

00:20:43.540 so i do think like the the nice guys and then this type of behavior is training them to become

00:20:50.580 um toxic i don't think they would i don't think they would do that because toxic guys usually are

00:20:57.220 they're good at what they do i think she just wants a faithful gangster so a faith

00:21:03.140 yeah i think that's what she wants that's crazy i mean not you but that sentiment seems crazy a

00:21:10.900 faithful gangster yeah but you know i just wonder if you if you if you had to look at if you looked in

00:21:15.940 the mirror you say what are you in their eyes like what do you represent do you think that you are

00:21:21.140 a nice woman or you think you are boring you think you're exciting exciting all that yeah i'm not

00:21:28.500 boring oh hold on cheeks donated 100 office at atum please preach to the panel how delusional these

00:21:36.900 women are and to bring them back into reality and how can you tell a man without speaking to him

00:21:42.820 a man approaching a woman is him wanting you to know him without being rude majority time

00:21:48.020 um yo cheeks thank you very much man appreciate it um and officer tatum please preach please

00:21:54.580 preach um so sorry i think you were responding before what i'm trying to what i'm trying to bring

00:22:00.660 out is that what are you presenting to attract these men who are you say are trashy and then what do you

00:22:09.860 represent for a man just say the man that you want why would he want you would be the biggest

00:22:15.140 question why would he want me because i have a lot going for myself right and i'm and i'm loyal

00:22:20.980 and i don't do people dirty when you say you have a lot going for yourself what do you mean by that

00:22:25.780 i have my like i said i'm a real estate agent i have my dental like i i have all these things going

00:22:30.500 for me i'm working on my insurance broker's license like i have a lot going for me and but do you think men

00:22:36.340 are really preoccupied with your success or what you bring to the table financially i mean yeah do you think

00:22:44.180 it makes it's good i'm not saying it's a bad thing but do you think it makes you more attractive to

00:22:50.020 men yeah who do you okay i i do want to get everybody's answer on the relationship status thing

00:22:55.860 but really quick just to finish off this thread who should pay on the first date the guy what about

00:23:02.420 the second date i got it oh you you'll get the second i got it what about like moving forward do you

00:23:07.380 still you want it to be more 50 50 moving forward i mean if he if i feel that like he's worth it like

00:23:14.020 i got it like i'll take care of it or like if he got it you know because i'm very like i'm a very

00:23:18.980 chill person i don't expect the guy to pay for everything all the time why not why not because i just i

00:23:26.820 don't like i just i don't think a guy should have to always pay for everything like a guy doesn't

00:23:31.540 doesn't it feel good if your girl was to take you out one time no no not for me for a lot of men

00:23:37.140 it don't i mean i'm i'm the man i'm the man yeah but once in a while if she was to surprise you no

00:23:42.500 i don't i don't need to surprise my my whole goal my whole mission with my i'm married now but with

00:23:47.860 dating or even marriage is my whole mission is to take care of the woman and so every day that we go on

00:23:53.620 if we go on a date i'm paying for it and if i can't pay for it we ain't going on a date i guess

00:23:58.180 so i just think it's my duty to do that it's disrespectful to me for me to have a woman pay

00:24:04.260 on any date if i can't afford it i shouldn't be dating unless she surprises you right but

00:24:08.180 excuse me unless she surprises you like hey babe we're going this place and it's like a surprise

00:24:14.500 like they have candles and everything and she's paying for it she she may do believe that you're

00:24:19.380 going to pay for it but she already has everything paid well yeah if that happens

00:24:22.500 jbs donated 69 dollars what she just explained is exactly the problem there's plenty of good men

00:24:30.020 out there but they're labeled boring and not exciting it could be possible that your mindset

00:24:35.060 towards relationships is trash as opposed to solely just men do you got a response to jbs here

00:24:41.780 they they are they going hard in the chat

00:24:48.980 i mean i think i think i think it's something to consider the question is do you want to be in a

00:24:55.940 relationship no do you want to be do you want to you don't want a relationship at all no okay then

00:25:01.060 that makes sense yeah then then that that explains that that guy that you're looking for yeah i'm just

00:25:06.340 i'm happy being alone later on in life maybe but right now much later yeah there's no time if it

00:25:13.380 happens it happens i'm not i'm not looking for it i'm not worried about that yeah well the the point

00:25:17.700 i was kind of trying to make is that and it sounds like you're kind of open to 50 50 if the whether

00:25:24.900 that's the case or not i don't know but a lot of women will say well what here's what i bring to the

00:25:29.780 table i've got a really good job my finances are in place but then they're still going to expect the

00:25:34.660 guy to be the provider so men aren't typically looking for women to be providers so your success

00:25:42.100 in your career and your job that's wonderful that's great for you but from a purely physical

00:25:46.980 light not excuse me from a traction point of view your job does not make you typically for women does

00:25:54.500 not make you more attractive it's fantastic good you got a great job you've got your shit together

00:25:59.460 that's wonderful but it's not going to make you more attractive for example in the same way and i'll get

00:26:04.020 you here in just a sec uh a lot of women would say a male doctor is a catch but i don't think

00:26:10.580 most men would look at a female doctor that hey that's a great career congratulations but i don't

00:26:15.780 think it makes her more attractive what was your so what do you think men are looking for in terms of

00:26:22.820 finding a high value woman well it's certainly not your your career yeah i think it's the way it's the way

00:26:29.460 that you act the way you treat a man you know how it is cliche but it's are you a soft woman are you

00:26:36.580 supportive of a man are you are you bringing peace to his life are you chaotic right are you drama drama

00:26:42.660 drama are you the type of woman that like my wife when i go home i'm going home to peace i'm not going

00:26:48.900 home to chaos i'm not going home to a dirty house i'm going home to peace and and if you that you're that

00:26:53.620 woman that's what men truly are looking for i mean they want to be in a real relationship

00:26:57.460 yeah yeah there's other things that men are looking for when they just want a one night or

00:27:00.820 they want to they want a sneaky kiki or whatever you say what is it we should introduce that as a

00:27:08.260 new term sneaky kiki can i say one thing please go ahead i think that there's also some and i'm not

00:27:14.660 saying that they that they it uh a woman doctor but also the fact that that they value the fact that

00:27:22.100 they can have a conversation with her about things like if he's a doctor as well that they can have a

00:27:28.660 conversation together and the fact that if she is for example a psychologist that he will be able to

00:27:35.940 bring um you know raise children in a matter of way with like coping skills or you know self-soothing

00:27:43.380 those are just like things that i feel that a man should also look into that as to another woman who

00:27:49.780 probably is just doing you know other things that you know probably will bring peace to the house

00:27:55.460 that's are you looking for a good mother or a good wife when you're actually looking for a wife like

00:28:00.420 are you looking more for motherly qualities first and foremost or wifely i think they're both i think

00:28:06.260 they're both synonymous i mean what are the differences a good wife would be a good mother

00:28:11.300 right a good mother would be a good wife i can't imagine a woman that's really well i think people can

00:28:15.700 mess that up i think but i think generally speaking a man is looking for a person with both of those

00:28:19.780 followers and work and working sometimes is very like if a woman is got a career like you just said

00:28:26.260 you said your career is important to you you're too busy for a man you know the man that probably would

00:28:31.380 want to date you it gets turned off by that because you don't have no time for the relationship you're

00:28:36.260 too busy doing that now he's not mad at you he don't he don't feel any way about you he just will be

00:28:40.980 with a woman who has the time who can spend the time with him and add value to his life versus

00:28:46.420 competing with the woman for whose career is more important i don't think that's like competition i

00:28:52.260 think it adds up like to the value of the woman if she's doing good in life you know if she has a

00:28:58.020 nice job or like she has a company or anything it depends on what you want go ahead i'm sorry why

00:29:04.740 why because you want to be successful for yourself as well you don't like of course if i marry someone

00:29:11.380 yeah i want him to take care of me but if i also have the money and i have a company i can also work

00:29:16.820 and we can both be successful well to that point you have to like this is something that i think gets

00:29:22.020 undermined where men like women are told they men don't care about your job fine but then we have

00:29:29.220 to provide for ourselves because we're getting married later so then we're living this lifestyle

00:29:33.380 where like okay i have a certain career i make a certain amount of money i get used to that

00:29:36.900 and then i do if i want to keep that i mean i guess i could go be a waitress and just really focus on

00:29:41.780 getting a man but if i want to keep that i want to keep my job and then the man thinks i have less

00:29:46.500 time for him but that's not true you know so it's we're in this weird place yeah yeah no i agree i think

00:29:51.380 i think you got i agree to some of what you said i think it is you're it you are in a difficult place

00:29:56.660 because when you are single you can't just be homeless yeah right you know hoping for a man to give you a

00:30:01.140 handout it's okay with pursuing your career but you then you have to balance what are your values

00:30:05.700 and what do you want from a man yeah if you want a man what if he wants children what are you guys

00:30:10.900 going to do about that together donated 69 dollars as a practicing male feminists and a believer in

00:30:17.460 feminism i love dating a career woman and due to the oppression of women i love how the feminists

00:30:23.220 side date always pay for my dates go matriarchy we love career women and the boss babe mentality

00:30:30.900 all right thank you beating cheeks sorry we we actually uh the uh tts trigger is 99 we have we

00:30:37.620 accidentally did not reset it back so we're changing that now uh thank you cheeks appreciate it did you

00:30:42.420 have more uh no on that point yeah i was just saying i understand that women got to work to that point but

00:30:46.660 then you have to balance you know what do you want out of life when it comes to be having a man if you

00:30:51.060 want to be single that's totally great you can do you know do you be single that's fine but you can't

00:30:55.540 depend on a guy no you can't but if you you have to make the investment if you want to be married

00:31:01.060 and you want a guy that's a good man that's a man that at value then it's worth the investment you

00:31:06.980 know my wife had an incredible job she made more money than me when we first started out but then you

00:31:12.020 know when we got together we made the decision that she will stay at home and take care of the babies

00:31:15.780 and i'll go out and make it happen so and that's the agreement that we made and that she walked away from

00:31:20.020 her job she walked away from her job but nothing in life lasts forever so let's say something

00:31:25.220 happened to you what does she have well of course we have life insurance i have a an incredible

00:31:30.900 business she'll have she'll be fine if something happened to me but we don't live life you know like

00:31:35.540 that we live life believing in god believing things are going to go well and we're going to pursue

00:31:40.020 that to the very end so we'll see how it works out i would hate to be living life wondering if

00:31:43.700 something's gonna happen instead of pursuing excellence and then you know obviously most people

00:31:48.580 they're not going to have a catastrophic thing happen in their life but that's that's what we

00:31:52.180 have pursued and it's been working out really well also and just on the whole boring thing um

00:31:59.780 bringing it back to women being attracted to bad boys men who are exciting jerks assholes whatever

00:32:06.900 um i think the more appropriate term is women will reinforce that behavior because that's what they

00:32:12.660 typically reward and women will even say it themselves i'm attracted to the to bad boys so

00:32:19.380 if you say that and that's the type of guy you go for you should not be surprised when the bad boy that

00:32:26.420 you choose to pursue because women have agency women are have autonomy you should not be surprised when

00:32:33.460 that guy turns out to be a cheater asshole jerk whatever maybe if that's what you're attracted to

00:32:41.380 because i think women are it's interesting though like to me it's not clear why women view men

00:32:49.220 not only as uh companions as romantic partners as providers but also there's this almost this added

00:32:57.460 expectation that we are your entertainers too sam donated 99 brandon how can you make hit pieces

00:33:05.380 against the red pill but show up on a red pill podcast i didn't see the same red pill talking

00:33:10.500 points hypocritical i have no idea with what he just said he says you made a hit piece against the

00:33:17.140 red pill but show up on a red pill pot is it a red pill podcast i don't know um i have no idea uh

00:33:23.860 okay thank you for the chat but yeah thank you i'm happily married and i'm just giving my personal

00:33:30.260 experience about what's going on i mean i don't have to be red pill green pill pink yeah i'm just

00:33:35.620 a man giving an experience with being in a relationship you know obviously i haven't been

00:33:40.020 married my whole life so i've had experiences being single experiences being in college and now with all

00:33:45.540 of that experience together it has helped me realize the importance of marriage and and these are the

00:33:51.940 things that i value and this is why i'm in the marriage and i'm not single yeah and by the way i mean

00:33:56.340 we bring on people who have different viewpoints not you know i have my own views i bring on people

00:34:03.460 that disagree with me i don't know where me and brandon necessarily agree or disagree on various

00:34:08.340 topics but it's good to have conversation um so really quick just on the boring thing um i mean you

00:34:14.420 mentioned play somebody mentioned players i think i mean i think that's why women fall for players because

00:34:18.740 they're not boring typically um but so i think boring can be a a good thing obviously you should

00:34:26.660 be able to have a conversation with somebody but um i don't know i don't think we as men we're not your

00:34:33.540 entertainers go watch netflix that's my view um like i don't know i i don't exist to make others

00:34:40.740 feel entertained at all times we're not obliged to be clowns when on a date and also bored people are

00:34:47.460 boring okay um did somebody have something else otherwise i'd like to continue with i would like

00:34:52.260 to say um the reason why we don't like boring is because most of us um grew up in this stop for just

00:34:59.620 a sec okay please just talk into the mic please please you got it you got it i'll bring it closer

00:35:06.820 okay most most of the reason why women want to find exciting or like adrenaline like roller coaster

00:35:13.780 um relationships is because alvin sam donated 99 brandon for example your hit pieces against fresh

00:35:22.100 and fit who also use the same talking points you just said i'm not gonna i have my opinions about

00:35:29.540 fresh and fit i'm not gonna get into that maybe we will later but uh i didn't see i don't i don't see

00:35:34.660 the video is that yeah just to make it clear it's not necessarily a hit piece you know it's that i'm

00:35:39.940 a mature man i'm an adult and some of the things that fresh and fit says i disagree with them

00:35:45.220 because i think they come from a very immature place they come from they sound like they come

00:35:48.660 from a broken place it seems like it's always bashing women you know like a broken clock i feel

00:35:53.220 like they write twice a day no matter you know on their podcast but overall man the way they talk about

00:35:58.020 women the way they view men i just saw a clip of fresh and fit just recently the guy gave this young

00:36:04.020 man such horrible advice about a woman and that i guess the woman wasn't giving him what he deserved

00:36:10.100 so he told him to go get a side chick and and double dip these women like that now it sounds cute to

00:36:15.540 young immature men that but but in reality that's not the way you treat women and that's not the way you

00:36:20.340 operate as a man that's that leads you to devastation and younger men like fresh and fit immature men

00:36:26.500 like they appear to be they don't understand that and so that's why i have criticism of some of the things

00:36:32.020 they say gotcha well we can certainly try to get into that a little bit later on in the show um you

00:36:37.780 had a point yeah um it's yeah um so we we tend to come most of us actually come had sometimes it

00:36:46.420 doesn't mean that you were traumatized or abused we had um emotional dysregulation when we were young

00:36:52.420 at some point school at home so we come we like familiar things we did most of us didn't learn how to

00:36:59.460 cope with these emotions so what we find attractive and fun is those exciting play play that's where

00:37:08.340 the attachment styles come from anxious attached at anxious attachment the other ones the avoidant

00:37:15.220 attachment so those are the exciting guys we like so when a nice guy comes around and is actually

00:37:21.780 wanting to say hi let's go on a date and let's go on a date he's actually not being clingy he's actually

00:37:28.100 treating you right and wanting to be with you and that's what we find clinging and the other one

00:37:33.940 that are avoiding us those are the ones that we are actually chasing so we find the normal the toxic

00:37:40.740 normalized in our lives so those that what brian said is actually right boring guys are the the normal

00:37:47.780 things and they aren't our entertainers we're supposed to make ourselves happy and exciting and

00:37:52.580 they are just supposed to bring us you know whatever they bring us you know conversation

00:37:57.140 or whatever so he makes a really good point right there so that was just my little two cents but i

00:38:01.700 think chemistry is important and mutual attraction right is important and recently i mean i was dating

00:38:09.940 someone for two months and they were the perfect person every way but i there was not i couldn't the

00:38:15.300 mute the mutual attractiveness just wasn't there and so it didn't work was he not physically attractive

00:38:19.860 i think no i think he's a handsome guy maybe i should say chemistry for us that it wasn't

00:38:26.100 sparking so chemistry what is the chemistry what is the spark i don't know but what i've learned is

00:38:33.460 that you need it i wish it was to my chagrin that the the spark didn't go off but it is just i think

00:38:39.460 it's that thing that makes you just that draws you to that person initially and so was he kind to

00:38:46.580 you he was in he is the most incredible guy everything was perfect and i like was like

00:38:53.460 i was like what is wrong with myself yeah what is wrong what is wrong you can ask all my friends

00:38:59.300 i was like what is who broke it off we mutually decide i went to i i went to montana for a month

00:39:06.740 and we we we didn't talk for a week and then we called and we were like yeah i think he felt less

00:39:12.500 pressure during that week of silence because he felt like he was constantly trying to make me

00:39:17.140 impress me and then and i wasn't i just wasn't pressed i wasn't like thinking about him and so

00:39:24.340 that's how i knew so i mean amazing guy but it just i don't know i unless i gaslit myself

00:39:31.700 subconsciously and didn't know but yeah you you can i mean i think that everybody looks for that spark

00:39:37.700 at the honeymoon stage and all of that you know over time you you realize that it's not about that

00:39:43.460 it's that you know a lot of relationships you get in you have that sparking and it goes away with

00:39:47.140 everybody i mean i thought three or four women were the one and then we didn't it ended up it didn't

00:39:52.660 end up materializing yeah oh that was just a oh i was like hey shut up no keep going that's like

00:40:01.060 it didn't materialize and i say me and my wife oh actually one did come in okay okay

00:40:05.060 brandon love your channel love your your t-shirts currently wearing my pronouns are usa but my

00:40:11.940 favorite is the donald please show the donald t-shirt on the channel plus brian when are you

00:40:18.340 going out with layla oh gosh uh-oh uh-oh um the donald t do you have one yeah i actually wore it on

00:40:28.180 the airplane but it's the donald trump shirt he's a gangster he got tattoos and stuff everybody loves

00:40:32.580 that shirt uh yes as far as layla goes um just to clue anybody in here at the table or people

00:40:39.380 watching who have no idea layla is a woman who's been pursuing me i guess but she does she does like

00:40:50.020 she does porn oh yeah well that's a no and yeah no no so i've i've told i've rejected her like a

00:40:55.380 dozen times and she it's all it's honestly kind of she's harassing me at this point is it because

00:41:00.180 she does porn huh is it because she does porn that you don't want yeah that's just done deal

00:41:04.980 it's a right like deal breaker 100 she also has an iq of 70 well let's not be mean here okay but

00:41:10.740 she's not she's a nice girl she's i just watched the podcast with her on she's a nice girl but uh

00:41:16.900 yeah it's just i no it's not gonna happen so uh yeah you gotta have some discipline right okay so um

00:41:25.140 sorry sorry that interrupted you if you want to no no i said the person did the super chat appreciate

00:41:29.060 you my brother thank you for buying the merch um what i wanted to say is that me and my wife didn't

00:41:33.460 have this crazy honeymoon stage we knew though we knew when we we were like we just make sense together

00:41:39.620 and i was with 34 and she was 36 37 when we got together so we knew but it wasn't some miraculous

00:41:46.580 sparkling in our eyes that we encountered it was more of a mature uh we're in the same place in

00:41:52.980 life we enjoy one another's company and we want to pursue life together it didn't it didn't have to be

00:41:57.460 some crazy shenanigans but i'm not saying that people don't deserve that but you just don't want to

00:42:02.740 overlook an incredible man that can add value to your life um just because you don't feel that spark

00:42:08.020 you know i'm not trying to be a counselor on here but at the same time you you might want to revisit

00:42:12.260 it because it's rare to find a man that you feel that way about and that you that's a really good

00:42:17.940 man it's really good men are hard to find to be quite honest the same thing with women if you're

00:42:23.220 a really good incredible woman you know that that chemistry would be hard to find yeah that's that's

00:42:27.620 to almost some degree the the vibe there's there's a whole bunch of words for it the vibe the click

00:42:32.660 the spark the butterflies the lightning all these terms for it right i almost wonder and at least it's

00:42:38.100 the case for me it seems to be it's more so something that women need is the click or the

00:42:44.260 spark but why can't that either be something that develops because i think that the click or the spark

00:42:52.180 is almost in the same category of as love at first sight most of us would agree that we don't

00:42:58.260 immediately fall in love with somebody so why why can't it also be the case that we just don't

00:43:03.060 immediately fall into the click maybe that could be something that can take time to develop people

00:43:10.820 because they've had it in the past where oh i have it i feel the click the spark instantly they feel

00:43:16.580 like they need that in all their relationships going forward um my question is if the click or the

00:43:23.620 chemistry or the vibe the spark whatever whatever term you want to use is you felt that with the guy

00:43:29.700 before has every girl here felt that with the guy before okay yes that obviously it's apparent to me

00:43:37.860 i think well we haven't gone through the relationship status on everyone you're no longer with that guy

00:43:43.460 it's clear to me that the click the spark the whatever it is like for you for example have you ever

00:43:51.380 felt the click with a guy and it ended really badly yes so it's not clear to me if having the click

00:43:58.740 and the chemistry precludes you from uh the like the relationship continuing from having a good

00:44:07.620 relationship so i don't know i don't well whatever yeah i think communication is key too because i mean

00:44:12.420 maybe both of you guys are going through so maybe you got out of a tumultuous relationship but maybe

00:44:16.260 you got some stuff you need to take care of with you know whether it's going to counseling or whatever

00:44:20.100 the case and being so does he it's a conversation that you guys probably should have is have a conversation

00:44:24.740 with each other and then get back on the same page because me and my wife we were friends first

00:44:28.900 and so we would talk about all our stuff first i never thought about dating a day in my life i would

00:44:32.820 never move to california so it seems as if we weren't going anywhere but we developed a friendship first

00:44:38.500 and then we knew and it was practical uh women are emotional not every woman but most women are

00:44:44.740 emotional so that emotional thing is what draw you to somebody but you have to at some point

00:44:49.620 uh go beyond the emotions get to practical and then you can you know i think you'll find a better

00:44:55.540 fit with you and somebody i tried to be friends i that was what i and what i wanted and then but

00:45:02.100 now he's dating someone else so that so sad but i also think that that's part

00:45:10.580 because i was thinking about him i was like maybe i should just you know but well first it was hurting him

00:45:15.940 that i was not able to like reciprocate the same like passion and so i didn't want to hurt him so

00:45:21.460 that was like so that's when i thought let's be friends and maybe that friendship will develop

00:45:26.260 you know but he went and found another girl hey good for him i also think like that spark for women

00:45:31.860 also that's a bond that forms when you're sexually active so like we weren't we're christians we're not

00:45:36.740 trying to do that and so that also and sometimes i would think man if this was like an arranged marriage

00:45:42.420 it would just have to happen and then the spark would come eventually and then it'd be great yeah

00:45:47.220 but but you already know the spark is could be devastating i i'm with you yeah wait i'm just a

00:45:53.620 little confused you said so you said you're christian but the spark typically will come when you're

00:45:59.380 sexually active with a person yeah you weren't sexually active with him but you said you've had

00:46:04.180 the spark or the click with other men wait so you're not sexually active the click is something

00:46:10.260 that occurs when you're sexually active but how why were you expecting the click if you're not

00:46:18.100 planning to be sexually active i'm just a little confused well for some sometimes it happens on like

00:46:24.100 when you kiss a guy right for the frame looking around to see if anyone else agrees when you kiss a guy

00:46:30.100 and it didn't happen when we kissed but that was really as far as we went i think the sparking comes

00:46:36.820 just from flirting yeah just talking to the person and you can you know how you click like it doesn't

00:46:42.660 have to be like during sex or kissing or whatever it just you know like if you're flirting the eyes

00:46:48.820 you know doing faces yeah i think just the sex just makes it a plus yeah and also you can romanticize

00:46:54.900 yourself into that right i mean if you listen to love songs 24 hours a day seven days a week and you're

00:47:00.020 fantasizing in a hopeless romantic you know posture it's almost like when you're looking for it and

00:47:06.660 when that person meets some of those criteria good looking guy good job or whatever the case may be

00:47:12.020 now you've set yourself up to fall into that romanticized um you know relationship and it's

00:47:18.180 easy to happen but it's it's something that most people should avoid yeah and if i could just uh i want

00:47:23.460 to ask the chat a question really quick related to the click then we will continue with the relationship

00:47:27.620 status um so the click vibe chemistry whatever you want to call it uh i personally think it's

00:47:34.740 not a great thing to look for because i think it has absolutely no bearing on someone's quality

00:47:40.580 as a long-term partner i do think it happens to be the case that this is something that women are

00:47:45.060 looking for more than men women are chasing this elusive click or you know whatever it is fine um me

00:47:52.660 personally i don't need it on a for on a first date when i'm talking to a girl i'm not like

00:47:59.140 also i find people have a very difficult time articulating specifically what chemistry or click

00:48:05.140 or like what it is um so chat those in the chat when you're first meeting somebody one in the chat if you

00:48:13.620 are looking for the click or the chemistry or two if that's really not a concern for you let's see what

00:48:18.740 the chat says um while they're doing that let's continue with the uh relationship status here so

00:48:24.740 i think it's your turn now i'm in a relationship and i've been for five years five years okay

00:48:33.940 all right uh how does he you do uh adult content right so how does he feel about

00:48:40.180 oh sorry sorry hold on just cool rad bro donated 99 thank you man brandon love your channel

00:48:46.340 nick show them got many of your t-shirts currently wearing my pronouns are usa but my favorite is

00:48:53.460 the donald please show the donald on the show okay all right i wish i had it with me brother i'm sorry

00:49:02.580 it's a cool shirt though i should have worked i wanted to put jesus out here but i guess donald

00:49:07.860 is more important than jesus to some people i'm just joking so how does your boyfriend feel that you

00:49:12.340 do adult content he's cool with it he yeah he actually he's the one that told me to do it

00:49:17.300 so like if i wanted to and do you shoot content with other men no okay and you wait remind me it's

00:49:25.380 just solo content or you do yeah do you shoot content with your boyfriend or no no okay um so he encouraged

00:49:31.380 you to start oh yes doing oaf okay good times uh what about what about you i'm looking at her

00:49:46.660 i am single my last relationship ended in january 2022 so it's been a minute last relationship ended

00:49:57.220 january 2022 yeah so it was the amazing guy he was the last i was in love with him he was the last

00:50:05.860 guy i was in love with so it's been almost i know a year and nine months two two years almost um

00:50:14.580 i'm not judging i just no no no i'm just it's interesting it's interesting what's interesting

00:50:19.460 know that that you say you're in love with him i wonder what happened

00:50:21.940 what happened um why did he dump you okay so he can reach your mind he can reach your mind

00:50:33.300 this is the thing maybe you can explain this he came on he we started he came on really strong

00:50:39.140 and was very i was his he was 30 when we started dating and i was his first ever girlfriend

00:50:45.620 which made me feel like oh my gosh i'm the chosen one but that's a lie not until he puts a ring on

00:50:50.420 your finger are you the chosen one anyways um and so he like but he was gonna he stayed in north

00:50:56.500 carolina for me he did all these things it was really great things were fine and then about like

00:51:03.380 a year in i brought him to meet my family in massachusetts and a week later he broke up with

00:51:11.460 me he told me he was moving to montana and he didn't want to date me anymore did they do something

00:51:17.300 specific he said so my parents are both christian he's he was not a christian which was that's your

00:51:22.500 biggest that's right there i know it should already i know i already know that we're gonna go i know

00:51:27.140 i know so you should be surprised we'll come back to that one thank you jacob appreciate it hey brandon

00:51:34.580 i really want to hear how the women respond if you asked your wife to make you a sandwich what would

00:51:40.900 you do to the women on the panel do you find it demeaning for a man to ask you to make him a

00:51:46.340 sandwich we'll go around really quick on that uh do you what do you find it to meaning no i don't

00:51:52.100 i don't me neither like i would love to no i like cooking i'll do it really yeah i will do it i like to

00:51:59.300 cook okay all right i think it depends on the way they ask okay i would love to care for my man yeah

00:52:07.060 who would make a sandwich yeah it's just a sandwich yeah my wife would make a sandwich and she would

00:52:14.740 bring it to me in the bed if i wanted to so um and it's not some type some type of um you know where

00:52:20.900 i'm a mean husband and i'm controlling it's like my wife loves me and i take care of my wife i make sure

00:52:26.180 she's good and that's just reciprocated so i once had a situation where uh this is a girl i'd been

00:52:33.220 dating for about a year she moved in with me i was paying the rent paying everything and uh i asked her

00:52:40.660 i was like sick or something or i what i don't know and i asked her to go uh i i had some like a knee

00:52:47.220 injury so it's hard for me to walk and shit so i asked i asked her to go make cut me some cucumbers

00:52:54.260 not exactly make a sandwich and she like i think she kind of had an issue with it she had

00:53:02.020 a she had you ask her i was like it doesn't matter no i wasn't rude i was just like i was like hey

00:53:09.300 well she she was aware that i was injured i was like hey i got some cucumbers in the fridge you

00:53:14.180 think you could like prep them for me even if you're not paying for rent or anything like you're my

00:53:19.620 boyfriend i'll like help you you're you just had a surgery or anything like right she had the

00:53:25.060 feminist mind virus in her head yeah and she like i could tell she kind of wanted to do it but then like

00:53:32.740 she's like the programming kind of like whoa she glitched out she was like feminism like am i supposed to do

00:53:41.860 this uh yeah so uh feed an injured man it was kind of like it was literally like her brain went

00:53:50.500 that shit restarted and i was like and that's

00:53:55.300 when i knew wait so she didn't do it well she she ended up doing it but i think she did it

00:54:01.540 begrudgingly it was like a begrudging i could tell by like the chops and the cucumbers

00:54:06.020 is super begrudging and and then i ended that shit okay so i mean they're okay so okay anyways

00:54:15.460 moving on um where were we relation oh we were talking about your guy that you were in love with

00:54:22.260 met your parents well boyfriend not just like i mean we were we were boyfriend girlfriend yeah

00:54:27.860 my were you intimate yes was it love or was it lust oh okay he wasn't a christian

00:54:36.020 i know i know and so the red flag of not being a christian for a christian woman

00:54:41.460 yeah you overlooked that yes of intimacy the holy spirit was like girl no but but intimacy

00:54:48.580 yeah you said after a year he met your parents yeah wait that long i met his parents the week after

00:54:55.060 we became official and he met mine were you afraid for him to meet your parents because you

00:54:58.980 know he was a christian right yeah so here's the other thing so my older sister has severe autism

00:55:06.020 so she lives at home with my family with my parents and my dad is very servant-hearted

00:55:12.900 and so he really cares for my mom and my older sister and like in a way that's very sacrificial and

00:55:20.500 i think when my ex saw that he so what he said to me is he was like i wouldn't be able to care or

00:55:26.100 provide for you the way that your dad provides for you and your mom so that was a good thing yeah it

00:55:30.340 wasn't yeah i know yeah it's so it hurt but and that's the problem when you go after someone you

00:55:36.980 can like there if without being thoughtful about it or intentional you can end up in a lot of pain

00:55:45.620 wait so has your standard now changed when it comes to because you said the previous guy you were

00:55:52.180 dating for like a month or two did not have sex with him no no i don't uh yes he was yeah so now

00:56:00.020 i don't talk to guys like if they don't go to church they don't actively go to a church they're

00:56:06.020 not actively pursuing the lord i don't even talk to them because in my mind i'm like why am i going to

00:56:10.180 put myself through that pain again that's dumb that's nice that's a good that's a good start i know i

00:56:16.740 honestly wish i had seen this podcast three years ago it might have helped because i'm learning about

00:56:21.940 how men think and i'm like what anyways incredible wait so but so do you have a new standard now though

00:56:28.260 when it comes to sex what is your standard now because previously it was i don't know what three

00:56:33.380 dates or relationship commitment but now are you waiting are you waiting until marriage yes and that

00:56:39.060 was what it was when i started dating my ex and then uh like we he just i don't want to say broke me

00:56:45.460 down but i but i i ended up take accountability come on there was i mean the accountability was

00:56:54.260 getting in a relationship with a man that doesn't have the same values of me as me and so he we had

00:56:58.100 a conversation about it and he was like that's not something i'm going to be trying to pursue like

00:57:01.380 waiting until marriage and then you know yeah but i mean if you end up pushing your boundaries if

00:57:07.460 if you had any qualms about that then you should have just moved like broke up with him not pursued it

00:57:12.420 but i mean to to say that you entered into a romantic relationship with a man who communicated

00:57:20.020 to you that he had no interest in waiting till marriage is it any surprise that he wanted to

00:57:24.900 have sex with you like i well he said he was excited he was excited no he was that no no not saying that

00:57:30.900 he was excited by the concept of like what's gonna happen today so he was like trying to convey that he

00:57:40.020 was maybe open-minded to it but he was like it'll probably be hard after you know many months and

00:57:47.940 i was like okay but yeah if i could go back and tell myself like hey girl don't do it don't do it i would

00:57:54.740 yeah you know yeah and what about like previous relationships before that were you also waiting

00:58:04.020 until marriage or have you also once i became a christian it was always like i want i wait till

00:58:08.980 marriage and and i had been when did you become a christian when i was 19 so how many times have you

00:58:16.260 faltered when it comes to this topic a couple but mainly but i've i also had multiple like serious like

00:58:26.340 the guy i was in a relationship with before we didn't we didn't do it i think three of them we would

00:58:33.620 only kiss okay so it was just it was yeah i don't know the whole like different standard thing i'm

00:58:43.780 kind of conflicted on because on one hand i think hey it's if you want to wait i that's hey good but

00:58:52.900 i think there's going to be a large subset of men that see that and to almost some degree feel scammed

00:59:00.420 like okay this was your standard in the past but now you've changed after you've already

00:59:09.140 had these indiscretions now you've changed your standard i think some men's intuition there

00:59:15.700 might be to feel kind of scammed yeah and i understand that what i think it shows demonstrates

00:59:22.260 is like the work that the holy spirit's done in my life to sanctify me and so when i first became a

00:59:27.940 christian i didn't i thought we don't have sex before marriage just because it's an arbitrary rule

00:59:33.380 and now i've now i'm at the point where it's like i don't want to have sex before marriage because that

00:59:39.620 sin disconnects me from the lord and i don't want to be disconnected from god i want to be close to him

00:59:44.900 and so it's i've matured in my view over that time i will say when i was in that relationship

00:59:50.420 even though i was in love with him i felt the most disconnected from god and so i knew it was bad

00:59:56.660 but i was like all of your feelings are just like ah so it was i knew it was a bad decision on my part

01:00:02.660 and i it was very painful and i and i learned yeah i and i'm not like i'm not a super religious guy

01:00:08.820 i do consider myself a man of god but amen um i i think this is the perspective so when women provide

01:00:16.580 sexual access to previous men more uh more easily cheaper let's say it makes men feel scammed uh

01:00:27.060 so i'm trying to think like for example in the same way that let's say you were dating a guy

01:00:33.700 and you found out that his ex-girlfriend he would get her gifts all the time he would take her on

01:00:40.100 vacations he was a provider but then when he met you it's like okay now i want to do 50 50 he will

01:00:45.860 never pay for the first date he never gets you gifts you might feel like he was providing a

01:00:50.100 value to an ex that he's not providing to you and you might feel like is he just not as into me

01:00:57.460 is he not like what's going on here so i think that's almost how men feel when it comes to

01:01:03.380 a woman who previously okay fine sex third date and then oh now you want to wait three months now you

01:01:09.700 want to wait until marriage i'm not saying it's look ultimately it's 100 your choice right

01:01:13.460 to you can change how you want to move but i think a lot of men might feel maybe not christian

01:01:20.180 men yeah what about a man that is trying to also wait until marriage yeah no i think it i think that

01:01:25.620 a lot of men i agree with what he said a lot of men do feel that way but christian men who are mature

01:01:31.460 they do not they appreciate that and i guarantee you most men haven't been perfect either so finding a

01:01:38.660 woman that is at least trying to pursue that and you guys can pursue that together it's excellent

01:01:43.060 for a christian man like any other man i can't attest to but for christian men i think that that's

01:01:47.780 an incredible value for a woman to have and i think that you have to continue that you know when you when

01:01:53.060 you're in another relationship pursue that because it means a lot to a man i mean as a christian man it

01:01:57.700 really means a lot yeah yeah and i i can't speak much on that but i can give you an analogy i'm gonna

01:02:03.380 give you guys an analogy i have it written down here and uh guys it's an analogy so don't i'm not

01:02:08.420 trying to make some weird comparison but um so making a man wait while in your past you uh

01:02:18.260 were less uh what's the term you gave it you had sex much more easily that would be kind of like

01:02:26.180 going to mcdonald's and you're in line you're at the cashier there's three four people in front of

01:02:32.660 you there's other people eating in the mcdonald's everybody bought a cheeseburger for one dollar

01:02:37.460 the three or four people in front of you bought a cheeseburger for one dollar when you finally get

01:02:42.340 to the cashier the cashier says that'll be a thousand dollars for you sir i think that's how

01:02:48.660 men view like women who would just for all the the 10 20 30 40 guys she had sex with previously

01:02:56.260 third date second date first date and then when you come along we're waiting until marriage

01:03:03.220 that's how guys are gonna feel like you're gonna feel like okay go ahead let me mature men don't

01:03:10.180 waste time thinking about what a woman has done unless unless you got nudies on the internet a little

01:03:16.420 bit but yeah yeah but that's what we hear like unless you got nude pictures on the internet or something

01:03:21.380 that cannot be erased men a mature man typically overlooks that i've never asked my wife one time what

01:03:29.460 was her previous relationship like i don't want to know i don't care you know you know i like to

01:03:34.260 believe i'm better than every dude she's been with that's why we married so i don't really waste my

01:03:38.660 time thinking about that i only think about me and her and what we're going to do and build as a

01:03:41.940 family i don't have time to think about it because she ain't gonna tell me the truth anyway i'm just

01:03:46.020 being honest wait you you're you're right yeah i know she would no woman she would be honest with

01:03:50.420 you no i don't even want to ask because no woman would tell you the truth it's like it's like when

01:03:55.940 i was a cop and i just pulled people over who were drunk yeah i said well how many beers you've had okay

01:03:59.780 i see they'll say i've had only three beers that mean they had like 10 beers okay you ask a woman hey

01:04:05.620 baby uh you know uh how many men have you been with now she's ashamed of it she may say something

01:04:10.980 comfortable for her and she'll leave out the dudes in the middle she'll only go with the relationship

01:04:14.660 guys so as a man it's a waste of your time to try to dig into that because it's quite irrelevant

01:04:20.500 unless we were in a society where everybody was virgins and you really couldn't measure that but

01:04:25.140 we live in a society where i don't know a person that's a virgin and if you are that's good you should

01:04:29.220 keep your purity that keeps you at the top of the hill but um we don't live in that world and i

01:04:33.780 don't care about none of these other dudes sure and i certainly agree with you that i if you

01:04:38.500 it's hard to say i mean i do think some women will certainly be truthful like if you were to point

01:04:44.260 blank ask them i think they would give you a truthful answer but i think you're also right

01:04:49.140 there's a also a large amount of women that they're not going to be they're not going to count

01:04:54.100 certain people if it was what do you want to know the truth and i don't think i i don't give me the

01:04:58.980 red pill i i would i want people say that i want the red do they really want to know the truth if

01:05:06.100 the if your if your woman told you every situation she's been in and then it's like how far do you

01:05:11.460 want her to go do you want to tell her what job what they were doing and how many times and you

01:05:16.580 know it's like details but but if i i wouldn't object to knowing like if i'm especially early i'd

01:05:22.020 like to know early on okay how many previous partners has she had that's something i would like to

01:05:26.820 know early on that way i can make a determination okay is this acceptable do i not want to continue dating

01:05:33.940 her because of how many previous partners she's had um i'll take the red pill though on that but

01:05:38.980 i'd rather know if she told you five if she told you five she said i have five guys right which is

01:05:43.780 a pretty low number by three and that's not she said i have five guys in the relationship and you go

01:05:49.220 yes i love you we could do this i can deal with five dudes right and then you know you're five six

01:05:55.300 years in you now are engaged or whatever case i think you should get engaged way quicker than that

01:05:59.700 but i'm just hypothetically speaking sure five years in you're engaged and she go hey uh

01:06:04.020 i just want you to know i was afraid to really tell you the real number and it's actually 15.

01:06:08.740 now would you divorce her or would you say i wish i didn't know that because i loved you

01:06:14.900 and i've built the relationship we're married at this point yeah you didn't bought the ring brother

01:06:19.540 you didn't have to wait everybody that came and celebrated are you gonna are you gonna divorce her

01:06:24.340 or are you gonna say i have to either accept the 15 or i have to wish she never told me the truth

01:06:30.260 well i'll say this this is sparta she's gotta go she has to go you will not do it you say it but

01:06:40.500 you won't listen so it's very difficult to do that you already built a bond so the marriage thing

01:06:44.980 definitely makes it more complicated but let's let's because you love her for more than what who she slept

01:06:50.820 with right with you let me see you you begin to do that i'm not saying and then let me let me be

01:06:55.300 truth let me be clear let me be clear because i know people gonna eat me up in the comment section

01:06:59.300 how many people you sleep with does matter it really does because it creates trauma and the

01:07:04.660 guy may not know but when you get in a relationship with him and things are falling apart and you're

01:07:09.140 arguing and you think he's cheating on you all of that trauma that you never told him about from all

01:07:13.460 those relationships it begins to snowball so you want to not be involved in that so but i will say it

01:07:20.420 it would be very difficult for you to just walk away because you've developed something that's a

01:07:24.980 lot more important than a sexual encounter with her which many of them she probably don't even she

01:07:29.220 probably really don't have a connection with anymore let's say we're engaged right because marriage that

01:07:33.380 introduces a bit more complication to it you got to unlock you got to do the divorce um i would say

01:07:38.980 though even in the marriage if she lied to me about that me personally that one it's not just her

01:07:46.340 body count it's that she lied about it that that sets off some alarms for me um engagement off for

01:07:52.820 sure in a relationship 100 like yes but she had everything everything else she she was everything that

01:07:59.540 you wanted doesn't she was respectful she was beautiful she cleaned she she make your sandwiches

01:08:06.020 even when your leg was hurting i mean everything that you want in a woman i mean and then just that

01:08:12.900 little that body count thing will cause you to break off the engagement well that's why i think they

01:08:17.780 should be honest from the jump that way okay the body count is this i'm that way you can opt out pretty

01:08:24.420 early on i don't think you should lie in the same way that i like i don't think people should be lying to

01:08:31.060 each other i think it's a pretty bad press uh bad thing to be setting but she gave but she gave an excuse

01:08:37.620 she said i was afraid because you because you guys were a perfect couple and she knew that if she

01:08:44.260 told you the truth even though you guys would be great that you would leave her and so that's why

01:08:49.380 she lied and she was right because you guys were perfect and then well they're gonna do it again

01:08:56.100 that is very true well let me ask the ladies here but that's different let me ask the ladies here on this

01:09:00.660 though if your guy told you his financial position baby i don't have any debt and then after you get

01:09:07.780 married you find out that he has four hundred thousand dollars of debt but i didn't want to

01:09:12.180 tell you because we're so perfect for each other and i didn't want it to but what is the virtue that

01:09:19.300 you that you like low body count doesn't mean you're pure low body count doesn't mean you have

01:09:24.660 the virtue of purity for purity it's a proxy but it doesn't necessarily mean that because i believe that

01:09:30.260 you can have the virtue of purity and have a higher body count but you've actually cultivated it wait

01:09:35.140 so hold on you you're saying like you could have a high body kind of like a hundred previous sexual

01:09:39.860 partners and still be pure like pure you can't rewind i just like what we call mary magdalene

01:09:47.380 what's the body count number like what do you what do you ladies deem as a low body count a mid-level

01:09:53.540 body count are you out of control you out of control below five i think it's a low body count

01:09:58.500 below five i would say like 15 15 is low yeah here we'll go around the table what's a low low body

01:10:06.020 count go ahead yeah like 15 below five same same to her below five below 15 two to three okay so four

01:10:18.180 is medium body count four to seven four to seven and then more than more than eight is getting into

01:10:25.700 high for you for the streets uh i think you answered what about you um into the mic yeah i don't i think

01:10:36.100 anything more than three sounds like okay wow the question is see i can't answer it for you guys but

01:10:42.820 what do you think about men's body count what is a low mid and high body count well that's acceptable

01:10:48.820 for you and a man if he told you i really don't care oh i do i really don't care because i feel like

01:10:55.140 your mind can change maybe you get to maybe he can have a hundred and then he gets to the point where

01:11:01.380 he's like you know what i'm tired of smashing these girls like i just really want a wife i think it goes

01:11:08.580 the same for me like five ish you know like if he passes like 15 that's too much that's like too much

01:11:17.700 and i just i don't want to know wait are we doing the first one was women and this one's

01:11:22.900 i would say 15 donated 99 if you found out her body count is higher than previously stated

01:11:30.500 she lied through a mission to secure your dollar if she lies about that what else will she lie about

01:11:36.900 morals are inversely proportional to a woman's body count back to the streets with her

01:11:43.700 i think that's funny but i i think it's i think in a very linear way of thinking that could be true

01:11:50.420 but there's there's different you know things that components in life that people live and and

01:11:56.740 sometimes people may not be always honest about certain things but it depends on what's important

01:12:00.580 you but no no i'm i talk too much now actually there is a brain because i like that you said

01:12:09.060 that there is trauma when it's involved that if you guys have a high body count you're more prone to

01:12:14.420 have mental illnesses like um trauma ptsd insomnia um personality disorders mood disorders but there's

01:12:22.660 actually now you can see a brain uh like your brain and and there's like you can map it and see if

01:12:31.540 you're actually more promiscuous than a brain like we when you see uh like a psychopath brain you can

01:12:38.740 actually see if you're more promiscuous than another brain who'd you hear that from uh there there's a

01:12:45.380 i can send you guys the i can show you guys the article actually right after yeah i actually brought it

01:12:51.220 along yeah yeah now you can check it out brian and check if they're lying to you about their

01:12:56.180 promiscuity i've never asked a woman i normally base um what i think based on the way they act

01:13:04.260 if a woman is very very i mean first date she's trying to get down and dirty then it lead me to

01:13:09.380 believe she probably do this with a lot of other men of course if a woman is a little more reserved

01:13:13.460 even mentioned that hey i want to wait till i'm married to have sex i'll perceive that women don't

01:13:18.340 have a crazy body count and i just leave it at that i mean that's just that's just me because

01:13:22.740 i don't want to know because if i if a woman told me i had sex with 25 dudes my mind is never gonna

01:13:30.340 let that go every time i think i'm gonna be like what did i get you see a guy that she used to date

01:13:37.780 and you're like man well you know what kind of stuff was y'all doing you know i don't want to think

01:13:42.740 about that i just want to focus on my relationship but that's just me i know how i am so i'm like i want

01:13:47.220 to ask you i don't need to know man if i think you're i think you're for the streets i'm not

01:13:50.900 gonna date you anyway so what's a lower like body count for you as for a woman for a woman yeah i

01:13:56.900 think around i don't know i think around about five or so five seem to be pretty low ten it it also

01:14:03.860 depends on age right because your per year body count could be crazy you know you you may meet a

01:14:08.900 woman at 40 and she's not she's not waiting for marriage i mean her body count gonna be higher than

01:14:14.180 a girl at 20. and if they have the same body count that means that you maybe not have stretched it

01:14:20.020 out maybe you get very dense than getting it done and age yeah well age also it it's definitely

01:14:28.020 obviously if you've been sexually active for a longer period of time you've had more opportunity

01:14:31.940 to potentially accrue more sexual partners but um i mean i'm sure we all you you went to asu right no

01:14:38.020 university arizona oh university wait university of arizona oh yeah arizona state and the university

01:14:45.060 of arizona i got you right here okay gotcha um i mean you know i this we're very close to ucsb it's

01:14:56.020 one of the top party schools in the united states um some women their first freshman quarter

01:15:01.540 they sleep with 30 guys um so you know a woman who's 18 can have more sexual partners than a

01:15:11.060 woman who's 30 35 40 so but it varies it depends i mean she gets saved i mean just say your girl you

01:15:17.940 got a crazy life like me when i was in college i told you i went to college and i was cutting up i

01:15:22.180 was cutting up but when i got saved it it changed a lot in me so i think that's a reset point for me

01:15:28.980 and i'm open for that for women even if a woman was doing sex work i'm being honest if a woman was

01:15:34.660 doing sex work now for stuff is all over the internet it's difficult for a man to accept that

01:15:39.780 but i can see how a man can forgive a woman if she's giving herself to god and she wants to repent

01:15:45.380 for her old things i wouldn't but i can see how a person would be open to doing that like somebody

01:15:50.660 else yes somebody personally though i would i couldn't i couldn't yeah because as a and i consider

01:15:56.500 myself to be a high value man i'm very well known i'm all over the internet people recognize

01:16:00.980 me everywhere i go my reputation is on the line attractive right my right beard and my beard is

01:16:06.740 all right my barber couldn't get me like with a donald trump shirt yeah you see i'm so famous

01:16:14.100 for the donald trump but but you know it i can't have a woman like that and be married to her

01:16:21.460 because it damages my reputation as a man it does because it's i go to a business meeting with a

01:16:26.420 multi-millionaire a billionaire which i have before i can't have that lingering over my head of a person

01:16:32.260 possibly seeing my wife naked on the internet or are 20 or 30 people are people that i see in the

01:16:37.380 airport hey mr tatum how you doing man and they got my wife only fans pulled up you know it's it's a

01:16:43.220 bad deal they probably clown i mean i clown on i mean i would i would feel bad about it um here let's

01:16:49.300 pull up the twitch really quick then we'll try to wrap up on the uh the uh relationship status

01:16:55.540 guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one yo

01:17:00.020 davash thank you for the prime bear thank you for the prime twitch.tv slash whatever

01:17:03.540 drops the follow in the prime sub if you have one uh your relationship status um i'm currently

01:17:08.900 in a relationship i got back with somebody that i was with um we reconnected so we were best friends

01:17:14.100 like you said and uh he's jewish and christian and i'm uh christian so that's our biggest foundation

01:17:22.260 and our communication and compatibility and compatibility is what our relationship is based

01:17:28.660 on and like that spark it comes later it really does and the more that we nourish our relationship

01:17:35.460 the more that we fall in love with each other so and i'm in the family mood where we're planning to

01:17:41.940 see you get kids and stuff so i'm in a very happy place right now what about you um just closer to

01:17:48.020 the mic i am single i call myself a nun when people ask um oh and my longest relationship was two years

01:17:57.380 two years and i've had one how long have you been single since uh i think either june or july of 2020

01:18:07.140 i think it was july so you're when you say none like what you not there's been nothing for what

01:18:13.780 three years no um there was there was a guy named no there's a there was a guy that i just put him on

01:18:25.060 yeah there was um someone i've known since i was what like 19 or something like that and that

01:18:31.300 sneaky link no he it was complicated it was uh wait a lot okay but so you've been single for three

01:18:42.260 years but in that three-year time period there was a guy sort of in the picture yeah like i he we've

01:18:48.980 talked a couple of times recently but i just blocked him because it just wasn't have you guys

01:18:53.780 you guys hooked up or like back when i was like 19. okay so you've you're saying you've been because

01:19:01.940 you mentioned you're none you've been celibate for about three years 2020 2021 24 four years

01:19:11.620 um it was i'd have to look on my snapchat to remember the exact date i left i don't need the

01:19:17.380 exact date but you've been celibate for three years three four years um i've had a few like

01:19:23.780 things happen but not like it's consensual consensual consensual okay what sentience donated 99

01:19:35.620 officer tatum i appreciate you but i respectfully disagree god forgives i don't couple with stats

01:19:43.700 showing a direct correlation with body hash and divorce she gave herself to the streets without

01:19:49.780 caution no ring for she who devalued herself first that's fair god gives i don't i i get it i get it

01:19:58.660 but that's why we are if you're a christian i don't know about everybody else but you're a christian

01:20:02.260 you're supposed to be more like god you want to be more like christ and you should be forgiving the

01:20:06.660 bible says that if you don't forgive god won't forgive you and if you're not a forgiving person

01:20:10.980 you're not going to heaven so if you're not a christian then i don't know what to tell you but as

01:20:15.140 a christian you have to you are forced to forgive you can forgive and not be with a person but at the

01:20:19.460 same time you you have to be in a position to forgive this and a lot of people want forgiveness

01:20:24.740 themselves everybody has made mistakes everybody is at this table there's not one person that's a

01:20:29.540 virgin at this table and everybody has slept with somebody they regret they and one of my biggest

01:20:34.820 regrets is that i didn't wait till i was married and i know a lot of people have those regrets so

01:20:39.060 we want forgiveness we want to get another chance sometimes you have to experience dating somebody

01:20:44.100 that hurts you and for you to know what you really really want and what you want to accept from a

01:20:48.820 man so that's a little shallow but i i it's cool to disagree do you think someone can be a born again

01:20:55.380 virgin is that a thing or is that just yeah i think they can i think they can be i mean spiritually

01:21:02.020 naturally no okay spiritually you can i mean so well as far as relationship status moving on to you

01:21:08.740 uh what's your uh relationship status uh i'm married i've been married now for about four years

01:21:15.540 before that i never had it i wasn't in a serious relationship uh i have to say not i never was but

01:21:23.060 it was a long time ago i have a 13 year old son now and so the serious relationship i had was 13 years

01:21:28.660 ago with his mom but this is the difference you ask women not nothing against you sweetheart you ask women

01:21:37.300 and they say they'll tell you their major milestones and then you find out there's stuff in between

01:21:42.420 ninety nine dollars true brian allow me to make the introduction brian this is b tatum you have a

01:21:48.900 number 34 around 07 to 09 like you he has an awesome youtube channel and around the table you have two

01:21:56.020 ladies and handful of 304s keep bringing the good guests like tatum knowles and candace

01:22:02.980 well hey eric thank you very much um yeah i'm gonna try to keep bringing on some uh awesome

01:22:09.780 guests and uh stoked that brandon's uh joining us today um you're saying yeah so it's i i what i was

01:22:16.260 saying is that that's why i don't ask women anyway because the propensity is that the big major

01:22:21.060 relationships is what they talk about and then there's the little guys in between that's why i don't

01:22:24.900 ask that but yeah as a man i have not been single from the 13 year old son all the way to my marriage so

01:22:32.100 i've had women that i've dated in between i've had women that i wanted to wait till marriage and we

01:22:36.820 did wait and it didn't work out and it was an easy break my heart didn't get broken her heart didn't

01:22:42.260 get broken we broke up and it was like hey no no it's not too much of an investment but then there's

01:22:47.140 also women that i slept with and i regretted it and i tell you what every single time i said i'm gonna

01:22:52.660 wait till i wait till we get married and i reneged on that the relationship ended shortly after that and

01:22:58.740 it was and it was a heartbreak so i've learned my lesson over time and i think that's why i am

01:23:05.620 to the point that i'm at and i was mature enough to actually pursue marriage and it's the greatest

01:23:11.140 decision i've ever made got it got it well we finally got around to everybody's uh relationship

01:23:16.420 status so i a couple of you provided we're so kind to provide some pre-show notes to us so i have a

01:23:22.260 couple notes that i've liked to uh bring up here um first off uh would any of you date a police

01:23:29.140 officer yes well hold on let me go around the table let's start we'll start with you we'll go

01:23:35.620 around the table go ahead yes i don't know probably well probably probably it just depends like you

01:23:44.100 listen be totally honest we haven't we do have an ex-police officer here but i don't think he'll

01:23:48.260 i won't be offended if it's no i think it's more on the side of like oh you're getting like

01:23:54.100 that's a risky job and i would like to be sorry hold on 99 hearing this panel talk christianity is

01:24:02.500 like feminists talking zodiac signs brandon the live chat is roasting you hard because you're acting

01:24:09.460 like steve harvey to save you uh the chat is brutal all right it's totally fine i could kill

01:24:17.940 this um i the child likes brandon what do you guys okay no i think i think what they want me to do is

01:24:24.100 they want me to come over here and they want me to bash all these women and talk crazy to them and

01:24:27.940 tell them how they're sluts and all this stuff and that's not how i feel in my heart

01:24:31.700 i don't i don't feel that way you know i think everybody deserves love everybody deserves to be

01:24:40.740 appreciated and they may make mistakes and that may lead them down a negative path but for me i'm not

01:24:45.620 here to call call you out and and go viral and all this sort of stuff i i think that i met you guys

01:24:50.980 before the panel and i respect every single woman that's on this panel and it's not up to me to look in

01:24:55.940 your personal life and figure that out you guys have been nothing but wonderful to me i don't have to be

01:25:00.420 a jerk and and treat you guys like you beneath me and i don't i don't think that's fair but i

01:25:05.540 noticed what they want to see but that's not how i feel sure so um so so i'm more of this yeah that

01:25:12.900 is a like a risky job and i wouldn't like like oh you're going to work and i don't know me waiting

01:25:19.860 home and what happened what if something happens to you what about you no wouldn't date just to be

01:25:26.420 clear you wouldn't date a police officer but you would date a thug i wouldn't date a thug oh

01:25:34.500 i'm sorry gangster i thought you're different oh sorry what's the difference between a thug and a

01:25:38.900 gangster that's a pretty boy with tattoos is that what it is wait i won't no i won't date a cop

01:25:45.780 you can't date a cop or you won't i won't because before we he answers uh we'll go around the table

01:25:52.180 fully uh yes what did i would but i think the risk is an interesting point okay i would absolutely

01:25:59.060 yeah yeah gotcha so just coming back to you uh why because i feel that he'll get into my

01:26:07.540 like he'll want to probably um investigate certain family members or my friends and i don't need him

01:26:15.380 doing that so no no thanks that's risky yeah i don't i don't i don't want him investigating i don't

01:26:21.620 need that what if he doesn't though how do i know how do you but how do you know like why do you make

01:26:25.460 that assumption because okay so because i do have a family member that is married to one and he's

01:26:32.180 yeah it's just no it's okay for me um are there any other reasons besides just the they might want

01:26:38.340 to do like a background check or investigate you a little bit is there any other reasons why

01:26:42.420 you might not want to date a police officer i've heard through a friend who was with somebody that

01:26:47.860 was a police officer and she said that those are the worst today i'm not saying you are oh no but

01:26:52.980 but you know there's a lot of crooked ones out there why because there are dirty cops out there

01:26:59.620 there are dirty because a lot of them they're out on the field working but they're with other women

01:27:06.180 during that time you've seen that uh you've seen the video not too long ago about the guy

01:27:10.660 getting caught or the girl was going to his car it at the park he was a cop yep but like is that a

01:27:19.220 good like okay i'm sure you could find any career field where there's infidelity like airplane that's

01:27:24.420 true uh probably engineer like any job you can find people that are gonna cheat so i don't know if like

01:27:30.100 one example they're not them okay fine let's exclude the cops can get cops can get um

01:27:40.260 they can do a lot of things that they're not supposed to because they have that power

01:27:44.740 and i don't know like as because i would date one but going into knowing like he can be

01:27:50.820 you know cricket dirty can i just have you scoot your mic this way a little bit perfect um

01:27:55.620 okay yeah like you know what what if it doesn't work out and then he wants to pull some shit on me

01:28:01.140 hell no i'm good like what arrest what if he just he might do something stupid or like you know like

01:28:08.340 no like framing i'm not doing that yeah can you like do like backward checks and stuff it's illegal you

01:28:15.860 would go to jail for for a pretty good amount of time if you do that you cannot illegally uh investigate

01:28:22.020 people or look up people's personal information it's a felony crime as a police officer do police

01:28:27.460 officers do it i think some do risk their job we had one person on our police department it was a

01:28:32.340 female she was stalking the ex and she decided to look up the girlfriend's address and then she but

01:28:37.620 she got she got charged with a felony you know people can do it it's rare that a cop would do that

01:28:42.980 because you're risking a lot for a little bit

01:28:46.500 zentians thank you man good to see you back in the chat thank you forgiveness comes from the

01:28:50.980 basis of contrition what contrition is she exhibiting while hopping from chat tyrone

01:28:56.580 to pookie isn't the question but forgiveness is earned otherwise what's the point she can be

01:29:03.700 recreational use only well i think that goes back to what he was saying before god forgives

01:29:09.700 he does zentians does yeah it just depends right if a person is still doing the same thing that

01:29:14.180 they've been doing what's the point of you dealing with the person i'm saying somebody who's genuinely

01:29:18.740 looking for forgiveness and they've changed their lives and they want a new start and then you and

01:29:22.580 you want to grant that to them then that's fine i think it's okay to forgive people you don't have

01:29:26.900 to hold that over somebody's head forever so and yeah if i recall um i don't know if i addressed this

01:29:32.980 previously when it came to body count you said that her past is her past like you wouldn't care but

01:29:39.460 what if it was something really extreme like like a hundred yeah i would care like what i'm saying is

01:29:45.300 that i never really ask and i kind of base it on their character normally chicks with body counts

01:29:51.460 that's that high they hey they they win it yeah they win it you could tell right away you do a

01:29:56.580 little bit of something here and there and they were they ready to go normally women who are a little

01:30:00.580 more apprehensive they it seemed like they value their sexuality a little more so they're more likely

01:30:06.660 to not have that amount of a body count not all but i think that that's it's kind of the game that i

01:30:13.220 think but can i say something one second to the to the amount it would matter it would matter to a

01:30:19.940 certain degree right if somehow a girl was you know i don't know just swiping through tender smashing

01:30:26.500 all these guys and i knew about it it would be less likely that i would want to be in a relationship

01:30:30.740 with a woman like that got it go ahead oh yeah i just i think it's important um how a woman acts

01:30:37.940 after you guys do stuff together because sometimes you mean six um yeah that intimate things when

01:30:46.820 those happen if a woman sometimes um not sometimes woman when a woman hasn't been with a lot of people

01:30:54.420 she'll she'll get really attached and it'll make her you know like calling and and putting in effort

01:31:00.740 to that person um so what you were saying is sometimes like oh if the if the girl's like ready to

01:31:06.660 go or like into the situation sometimes that's just the mood she's in you know and it's it's a it's

01:31:11.860 about the person themselves i think what shows if a person is like a lower body count is how they act

01:31:19.460 after that could be the case oh i i kind of i think i see like if a woman has a low body count and she has

01:31:29.860 sex with you like you're saying that she might actually start developing more feelings like a

01:31:37.700 girl who hasn't had a lot of sexual partners she will actually proper like start bonding with you

01:31:42.260 once she's had sex with you whereas like you can tell like if you have sex with a girl and she just

01:31:47.780 she would be fine never talking to you again that would be a pretty good indicator that she's like

01:31:54.340 this ain't the first rodeo she's had a lot of sexual or that could be um a mental illness

01:32:00.420 immediately that could be like love addiction or a really it's a really attachment style that she has

01:32:07.220 severe codependency issues and that could be a huge red flag because she could be having sex with

01:32:12.020 a guy each day and get attached to him immediately because he hasn't wasn't good at it very um if you

01:32:19.460 wasn't good at it he wasn't good at it that's it no i think if you have a lower number then you could

01:32:26.420 get attached faster because you haven't had that many couples that if you have um a higher number

01:32:33.300 then you'd be like oh and that's why you should wait and not have sex with people that you're not

01:32:38.100 fully committed to because you don't want to put a person in that position a person with a low body count

01:32:42.820 and then you end up getting them attached to you and you're like i'm not really trying to be in a

01:32:46.660 relationship but you've now invoked that in in that person you know young young men and people

01:32:54.260 are going to hate me for saying this i think young men need to take responsibility for these things as

01:32:58.260 well you know young men are creating these holes i'm just being honest young men create these holes

01:33:04.180 too it's not that they don't want it but if dudes weren't willing to sleep with them they wouldn't

01:33:09.940 have a high body count so i think that young men need to take responsibility to be the example by saying

01:33:15.380 i'm not going to sleep with this woman i'm going to hold off on it even if she wants to because i

01:33:20.340 want to be in a relationship or i don't want to be in a relationship let me make that leadership decision

01:33:25.700 so i'm not hurting her feelings and now she's attached and now we breaking up or now i got a baby

01:33:30.820 with her i i put it on the young men to to be more proactive but also you women do have to take

01:33:37.460 responsibility because they are also there's now higher numbers where you see women like sleeping with men all

01:33:45.140 the time because they're so love starved that they are creating that they are so co-dependent that

01:33:50.660 they will start fantasizing even if they only slept with this man for one time they become so attached to

01:33:57.060 him and if he starts ignoring her she will immediately start looking for another guy to sleep with because

01:34:03.300 she needs that love and that love is not getting received but also people with lower body counts they're

01:34:09.300 really selective no like they won't i agree go just the first night no i agree with you let's do it

01:34:15.060 no i exactly they have lower body no i said higher body counts i'm saying the higher body counts not

01:34:20.420 the lower body counts i agree with you lower body counts are more selective and that's why they have

01:34:24.660 they're more mentally can be stable yeah exactly more mentally stable what about someone who has a low

01:34:33.540 body count and they've experienced let's just say it's three and the third one they experience

01:34:39.460 crazy physical attraction but somehow it just didn't work out because the spark wasn't there

01:34:45.220 and then you wait what if you wait to you know because you became a christian or whatever you wait

01:34:51.860 until marriage and then you get physical with your husband and it's like the sex is bad it's not

01:34:58.500 yeah i think that that's relative to how attractive you are to the person and how much you love that

01:35:04.100 person yeah you know a man can spruce it up you know if you love that person and you enjoy spending

01:35:10.180 time with them intimacy with that person it can become good for you um or y'all can just work on it

01:35:16.180 i mean i mean how much stuff can you do you can teach a man how to do it but it's possible that it

01:35:21.700 that can be a deal breaker i think it can if you're a mature person i don't think it will be a deal

01:35:26.660 breaker because life is more or relationships are deeper than just sex you know especially

01:35:31.540 this is very important but it's to make it better yeah well but i mean if i so you're saying in a

01:35:38.260 scenario where a woman she's had sex before but now moving forward she wants to wait until marriage

01:35:45.060 before she wants to wait till marriage to have sex correct she wants to well i mean if that is your

01:35:50.340 standard like if you're switching that to be your standard then obviously you weren't able to screen

01:35:57.220 like sexual compatibility you weren't able to screen out some of these things but like if you're a godly

01:36:01.940 woman you should realize that okay like brandon was saying you're now mature like there are things

01:36:10.180 that are more important than sex obvious and obviously like really like sex is not this complicated

01:36:17.380 procedure like that's something that can be worked on granted i will say that typically most women

01:36:22.900 especially women who have some degree of sexual experience don't want to be teaching a man

01:36:27.940 how to fuck them like most women would find that unattractive if they have to like hand hold a guy

01:36:34.260 here's how you please me most women want men to just get it especially if you were turnt before that

01:36:39.940 yeah but you got you have to understand i think i think it's important too to realize that the dude that

01:36:45.700 turned you he didn't want born like that right it wasn't like he just came out the womb and he know how to put

01:36:50.820 it down he had a lot of experience to end up getting to that point potentially and so when you

01:36:56.020 marry a person that have a lot of other incredible values you can say okay i'm willing to work in that

01:37:00.660 area you're never gonna marry a person that got everything you want it ain't happening you can

01:37:05.460 forget about it you can marry a man that can throw it down in the bedroom but there's other things that

01:37:10.900 you may not like about this person when you get into a relationship you start having children

01:37:15.940 you're going to realize that sex is not as big of a deal as you think it is it's going to be a lot

01:37:21.620 more of the things that are important in a long-lasting relationship okay i'm not saying it's not

01:37:26.660 important you got to get it in but at the same time you'll realize that there's a lot of other things

01:37:30.820 you enjoy with your partner other than just smashing it's not just feeling good though like

01:37:35.700 because i think that's what you're saying it's not just about feeling good it's because i think

01:37:40.100 please sorry into the mic yes it's not just about feeling good right like that's what you're saying is no

01:37:44.580 i'm not saying it's just about feeling good i'm just saying that when i go home to my wife and the

01:37:50.100 house is clean and i see my son and we're going on a walk together as a family that feels really good

01:37:57.380 to me that enriches me as a man i feel empowered it makes me want to you know go out and conquer the

01:38:03.620 world i feel really great about that if we didn't have sex that night it's not going to change the world

01:38:08.340 for me you know so i i think that when you add the other dynamics of love and and children you realize

01:38:15.780 that that won't make you leave somebody that's i think that's where i'm at i'm just gonna add one

01:38:20.580 real quick thing um and that feeling is because it's actually real and a lot of people we've been so

01:38:27.140 desensitized from feeling these real small happy feelings that we don't um really get to enjoy like

01:38:36.980 these really pleasurable moments and to be honest one person this is the actual and i hope he doesn't

01:38:43.220 hear this one but um he actually is not experienced at all and we were both going and i'm not that

01:38:51.940 experienced but we go through it through our own pastor we go through it through counseling we we're

01:38:58.340 going through life together and it doesn't matter to me because he is the most kindest per kindest most

01:39:05.860 intelligent person i know and sex isn't everything to me the way he treats me the way he treats my

01:39:12.100 family the way he treats every every aspect of my life and the way we treat each other is the most

01:39:17.780 important thing to me it's okay everything okay a couple notes here um so also this is actually

01:39:24.260 another reason why i think but body count matters and why having a woman who has a low body count is very

01:39:30.980 important this is actually probably where a lot of christian men might get into trouble especially with a

01:39:35.540 woman who's had numerous previous sexual partners and like if a girl here's the thing right when

01:39:43.300 a girl starts having more and more sexual partners not only and this is going even beyond like sexual

01:39:50.740 skills skills in the bedroom uh as you start hooking up with more and more guys eventually you're gonna land

01:39:58.020 on a guy who is just either really good in bed or is really hot really attractive or he's bringing he's

01:40:05.940 got high status or he's got a lot of money and you're going to you're going to hold your future partners

01:40:14.020 partners to that guy so once a woman's been with like a real like a top g a top g like brandon over

01:40:23.060 here um she's done like done like oh and now she's gonna go settle for like an average dude because

01:40:30.260 here's the difference between men and women women can very easily and jbs had a comment here that i'm

01:40:35.140 gonna pull up in just a sec like women can get sexual access to very very attractive men high

01:40:42.100 status wealth uh they could even be good in the bedroom too but those men aren't necessarily going

01:40:48.420 to commit to you because one of the differences between men and women is a guy of a certain it

01:40:53.620 could be physical attractiveness it could be status it could be socioeconomic whatever it is he'll sleep

01:40:59.140 with a woman that is less attractive than him or have a different socioeconomic status he'll never

01:41:06.260 commit to her so you could have like an average girl who goes hook hooks up with a millionaire or

01:41:12.260 billionaire he's not going to commit to you but now you've introduced into your uh into your periphery

01:41:21.380 a certain lifestyle uh you've been with a certain tier of guy and it's going to be very very hard for

01:41:28.180 you to now go and settle for a guy who's actually on your level i think if you want to you can get

01:41:35.860 a guy like that if you want like if they want to if a girl wants to to stay with a guy that gave her

01:41:43.140 everything then they can not well here's the thing right like i agree with you if she doesn't sleep with

01:41:50.900 him maybe if she doesn't sleep with him yeah i mean like i like that to keep a man's attention the best

01:41:57.380 way is to not do that that quickly yeah if you're on his level if you're on his level a guy a guy's

01:42:04.900 not like here's the thing right um there's this concept called hypergamy like women are trying to

01:42:09.620 get the best man that they can get and so what you have happening on dating apps for example and

01:42:14.820 most people are meeting online most people are meeting on dating apps you have a very very small

01:42:18.980 percentage of men on these dating apps that are matching with all the women they've done studies

01:42:23.940 on this they've released the data women are only swiping on the top five top ten percent of men

01:42:28.500 on these dating apps so what you're going to have happen is all the attention is going towards the

01:42:33.060 top ten percent of men on these dating apps typically those are the most physically attractive men because

01:42:37.460 the dating apps operate on a fairly superficial shallow level so it's really pushed like it's really

01:42:44.900 making physical attraction looks the focus women are giving all their attention to these the top ten top

01:42:51.780 five percent of men they they have all the optionality they're going to sleep with these

01:42:56.020 women that they would otherwise never entertain for a long-term relationship because they welcome

01:43:00.260 the easy access to sex so here's the here's the big difference men will sleep with women of a certain

01:43:08.900 men will sleep with women of a certain physical attractiveness that they would never consider

01:43:13.380 being in a relationship with because for men like they'll sleep with a girl but

01:43:18.180 just based on her looks alone we'll never be in a relationship with her but they're like okay cool

01:43:24.260 easy sex sweet but what ends up happening is that girl then thinks if she because i'm able to have sex

01:43:30.900 with that guy therefore i must also be on that level that's the guy that i deserve for a long-term

01:43:37.940 relationship so let's just to use numbers here let's say a girl who's a six she can get with a guy who's

01:43:43.380 an eight or nine looks wise he's never going to commit to her but he will have sex with her

01:43:48.020 maybe once he might even keep her around as a friends with benefits she'll never get commitment

01:43:52.100 so that's where women kind of get in this trap and then what ends up happening they get sexual

01:43:57.140 attention say average women get sexual uh attention from men that are of a certain that are more

01:44:03.860 physically attractive than than them they now think that's my level that's my league that's not your

01:44:10.180 league you can get sex from those men that's not your league though in the same way that you can

01:44:14.660 get attention from a guy who's got a certain like drake it's got a certain level of status right

01:44:19.780 uh actually let me not bring in let i'm not going to bring in status let's i'll just keep it to looks

01:44:24.260 um so what you have happening is these women sorry i'm losing my i'm losing my train of thought here

01:44:30.420 um oh so okay what what ends up happening is that the guys who are actually on their level

01:44:36.900 average women no longer want average men and this is evidenced by the fact that

01:44:41.300 women view like 80 to 90 percent of men as physically unattractive so as women if you start

01:44:47.700 chasing after these men who will give you access to sex they'll never give you a ring or relationship

01:44:53.300 then the men who are actually on your level who will be loyal who will give you commitment who will

01:44:58.100 give you a ring you think you're settling for him even though that's your looks equivalent that's your

01:45:03.380 match that's your league that's on your level you think they're below you so that's i think that's

01:45:08.340 i think that's an amazing i think that's a great point and i feel like we need like if we can long

01:45:12.020 winded sorry if you can get in a 30 second clip like let's just pass it around so every girl can

01:45:16.020 see that and read it because i think it's very important i mean i even think that some guys that

01:45:19.380 are like a 10 will sleep with a six if there's alcohol involved i mean if there's certain things oh

01:45:22.980 guys who are tens will absolutely sleep with the six they will never commit to them what i was saying

01:45:26.900 though is i think but one thing and i'll let you finish the reverse does isn't true for women though

01:45:31.780 yeah for a woman to sleep with a guy typically the guy needs to be at least physically attractive

01:45:38.100 enough to be in a relationship with okay women will actually yeah and women will actually not

01:45:46.180 disagreeing and and typically women will actually break a rule so it's almost the reverse so men will

01:45:53.220 break their rule for when it comes to sex uh casual sex men will sleep down when it comes to casual

01:46:00.660 sex women will typically sleep up so like women will bend their rules if the guy's really physically

01:46:05.140 attractive maybe their previous standard was okay i'm i don't sleep on the first date or i'm waiting

01:46:11.220 but if guys physically attractive enough a lot of women will break their rule which is dumb but what

01:46:17.060 i'm saying is if you're within hold on if you're within like one degree right one and a half yeah sure

01:46:23.540 if you want a chance of maybe making him your man the best thing you can do is not sleep with him

01:46:28.900 because then he because let's say you're a girl like there are some girls maybe they're six but

01:46:32.100 they have like an amazing personality like that counts for something and so then the guy you give

01:46:36.260 the guy a little bit of time to get to know you while he also is like intrigued and wanting to

01:46:41.300 intrigued by you sexually and so then the combo and then maybe there's a better chance now when it's a

01:46:46.260 six and a ten sure i totally agree but i think like for for like the best way to get a man is not to

01:46:52.180 sleep i will i will say that i think a lot of men and perhaps we can ask the chat maybe one in the chat if you

01:46:58.020 agree with this i think it's certainly the case that a lot of men would be willing to forego on the

01:47:04.740 physical looks front if the woman can bring them peace is pleasant is feminine has a low body count

01:47:13.060 is not promiscuous i do think men are probably a little negotiable on that front i would say though

01:47:19.060 like a guy who has but that's more so a guy who has a lot of sexual optionality

01:47:26.820 i really don't think that like if you if you're one or two points or three points looks wise below him

01:47:35.700 he has so much sexual optionality i don't think he's he'll find a girl that's willing to

01:47:40.340 well so because my not all men but i think my ex was cuter than me personally and which one the

01:47:46.980 one or the non-christian the non-christian but i we waited a very long time and so and he said that

01:47:52.580 and he want and like we were official and he said that it was because of that he got to really he got

01:47:57.940 to like know me and see me um okay so that's just my and some people might think we're equal

01:48:04.660 no as a man as a man a hundred percent man you know when you're young you don't care you just

01:48:10.180 all the hot chicks you want to get with them especially if you weren't raised right you know

01:48:14.260 you get you get into this idea of this modern culture and you get confused and you want to

01:48:18.260 sleep with women because of their looks when you become a mature man you want peace that means more

01:48:23.060 to you someone who's agreeable because you can have a hot chick and she's a pain in the rear

01:48:28.500 and i hate to say it a lot of super hot women are super attractive women are annoying because

01:48:35.700 and i'm not saying everyone but they get that way because they don't have to work on their personality

01:48:40.420 because they get so much attention based on their looks so they don't have to work on anything else

01:48:44.020 they could just they could be sitting across the room from a guy they don't have to work on nothing

01:48:47.700 men are like dogs you know they want to come and get that one woman because she's incredibly

01:48:51.620 beautiful but she don't work on a character or she want to be a boss bae or she doing all this

01:48:56.580 other stuff that's really unattractive to the man she want she can get men but the man that she

01:49:03.060 want is not going to be in a relationship with her if she cannot be a peace and agreeable uh with the

01:49:08.900 man yeah i totally agree with that um it's all about the personality wherever i always stated honestly

01:49:15.060 like guys that are not that cute and it's not that oh yeah i'm the cutest of the relationship or

01:49:23.700 anything but it needs to be with the personality like they are awesome persons like people or

01:49:28.500 whatever and a lot of girls think about like like you were saying like uh guys attend and they're

01:49:35.220 innate they have sex i feel from like my friends and stuff that they say like oh i'm gonna have

01:49:41.540 sex with him and he's gonna fall in love for the sex you know there's a lot of girls that think of

01:49:47.140 that and i'm like well i'm the whole opposite i'm like hell no i'm not having if i want something with

01:49:51.700 him i'm not having since until we're dating like wait but if you don't want something from see i

01:50:00.340 are you saying that there are some men that you hook up with quickly that you don't want anything from

01:50:05.780 no oh okay because i mean that's kind of like a an interesting thing where women will have two

01:50:12.100 different standards there's maybe your spring break partying whatever like in your past okay

01:50:18.660 okay i'll sleep with the guy within 30 minutes of meeting him and then next week oh you feet you

01:50:25.540 meet a guy who oh he's got really great long-term potential i'm gonna make him wait three months no

01:50:30.180 i've never had like a white night stand or anything so i'm like what i always wait like what's the

01:50:36.020 longest what's the shortest you've waited to have sex probably and no judgment by the way like i've

01:50:43.060 like a month or like a month that's the shortest a month and a half yeah what is that a lot for you

01:50:49.940 girl i mean good i mean that's get your bag that's a good standard that's a good standard because as a

01:50:56.740 man most women are nowhere near that yeah i'm not gonna give it like the second date or third date

01:51:02.020 really just like no i win that long she's a classy lady you say you what you do you wouldn't wait that

01:51:07.460 long they have to work for it you know like of my long-term relationships um i i don't feel like

01:51:16.020 there there's this trope now some guys will definitely view a woman who sleeps with them

01:51:20.020 too quickly in the negative light my personal view is is that i don't i don't need to wait a long time

01:51:26.100 i've had relationships with wonderful women and we hooked up relatively quickly third date second date

01:51:33.460 i personally don't think and you know long-term two-year i had a two-year relationship five-year

01:51:38.820 relationship um these were good relationships and the quickness with which we had sex did not

01:51:47.940 have a negative impact uh on the relationship in my view yeah so you might be right i mean i could be

01:51:53.620 wrong i'm still what if that was your his her fifth buddy you know and now she's gonna have six

01:52:00.340 buddy and the next person that he she meets like he's gonna be like oh no that's a lot of like

01:52:05.540 comedy already you know that's gonna be fucked up you know so you have to actually work i mean i think i

01:52:10.580 i maybe tend to move a little differently than some other guys like for me if i have sex with a girl i

01:52:15.940 want to pursue something long term with her even if we hook up relatively early on i've never been

01:52:22.660 interested in just sleeping with a girl once that has very little that's very uh not of interest for

01:52:30.740 me so if i sleep with a girl even if it's early on i want to i want there to be continuity i want to

01:52:36.420 continue seeing her so maybe i move a little differently than some other people because i

01:52:41.460 think maybe it's the case that some people might say okay well hooked up with her quick don't want to

01:52:46.340 continue seeing her or there's just guys that they're just trying to just one girl after the

01:52:51.620 other have sex one i have sex once and never see her again me personally that doesn't make sense

01:52:56.740 like i don't get that to have sex with a girl once and then never talk to her again unless something

01:53:02.820 really fucking weird happened but like if i decide i want to have sex with a girl i want to keep seeing

01:53:08.100 her so but is it like at the first date like is that too like quick what's the longest like for you

01:53:14.980 what do you mean the longest i would wait oh the shortest yeah sorry i mean i've i've hooked up with

01:53:20.580 a girl on the first night i met her yeah and that doesn't change your like my calculus i mean

01:53:27.700 thoughts of her no not necessarily not necessarily but i think but this is this goes to the body

01:53:34.900 count thing right i mean right you get a girl on the first date no commitment and more than likely

01:53:40.820 first daters don't really work out it didn't work out and then it's one more body she have on her body

01:53:44.500 count and and and and women have to be accountable for that right i mean you don't you have to take

01:53:49.060 two to tango but i would encourage men to not do that to get to know her better and don't waste that

01:53:56.340 body on you or her get to know her because what happens when you have sex you overlook all the red

01:54:01.940 flags i mean the red flags become hot pink they're not red anymore because now you've been sexually

01:54:07.300 involved and if it's good to you right now every now you they could do anything and you you will look

01:54:13.220 over it because of lust not love so the best way to do it is for young men to say look let me get to

01:54:20.180 know her better let's come up with an idea i would say men and women date with a purpose don't just date

01:54:27.140 to to have sex because i'm gonna tell you something because you made a point about if you run into the

01:54:31.860 guy and this is really really good what do you do on the next one you know what if it's gonna always

01:54:37.460 probably peak your interest to get more and more and more you're gonna run into another dude that's better

01:54:42.180 than the first guy and then what do you do you you can't you can't keep chasing that sexual uh

01:54:49.460 fantasy or that sexual niche or whatever you you have to pursue relationships with a purpose it's the

01:54:56.020 best way to do it i'm not trying to preach to y'all i'm just saying do it with a purpose and therefore

01:55:00.180 there's no body count women that you leaving out in the road and then you don't get into a situation

01:55:04.820 where you feel obligated because as a man sometimes you have sex with women and then now they get clingy

01:55:10.420 but then you feel bad because you're like dang i don't want i'm really not looking for that but

01:55:16.340 i shouldn't have done that she is kind of a good girl but then i don't and then you linger out that

01:55:21.860 relationship when she could have been with somebody that really wanted to be with her so i think that's

01:55:26.180 why it's so important for people to wait yeah what i would say to that at least for me and i do think

01:55:31.860 maybe i could it could be very well the case that i'm a little bit of an outlier in the way i move

01:55:37.940 um if like i already if i sleep with a girl like i've already kind of made the determination that i

01:55:46.740 am open to a long-term relationship like i'm never gonna just sleep with a girl without having the

01:55:52.580 look it could very well be the case that we continue dating for three months and it doesn't

01:55:58.500 work out like is the case with any relationship but i'm already going in with the intention of

01:56:04.260 if i'm gonna sleep with this girl then i do want to pursue a long-term relationship but why did why are

01:56:09.780 these relationships not working out and i bet you no no i bet you a million dollars that it was

01:56:16.500 something at the no no but it was something at the beginning that that showed you that this is

01:56:22.740 probably not going to be long-term or maybe she really isn't what i want and then you have sex

01:56:27.540 and you overlook it i blame it all on feminism feminism's fault if it wasn't for feminism we'd

01:56:33.460 we'd uh we'd be good honestly though i'm kind of like just a walking red flag i've got a dating

01:56:41.540 podcast i'm a male with a podcast have you heard about this males with podcasts it's a it's

01:56:46.500 we shouldn't be giving microphones and uh headsets to to men um but uh no i don't know um honestly

01:56:53.540 i'm just well you probably don't want to know my take on marriage so that's the other thing for you

01:57:00.020 saying that meaning that i think you're not favorable to marriage i don't have risk factors yeah like and

01:57:06.420 look i don't have anything wrong from when it comes to marriage from a religious perspective uh i i'm not

01:57:12.820 like fervently like anti-marriage in the sense that i'm openly like i i try to think i'm a pretty

01:57:19.620 reasonable person but i'm not like antagonistic with it i just i've looked at the risk factors

01:57:25.380 like you said and i just me personally i don't want to get married that i think could be for some

01:57:32.820 women kind of i don't know now i'm but here's the thing like i could have a long-term monogamous

01:57:39.300 relationship with a with a woman life life partner no but you always have an out you always have an

01:57:46.340 out you don't have to make an ultimate commitment yeah that's the thing without marriage like people

01:57:51.540 get divorced all the time though you can what is so in marriage you can just go to you just

01:57:56.260 financially but you'll give some money right but you get married to stay yes you know is that that's

01:58:02.740 how marriage works forever don't you think you're limiting your pool because you're not i mean most

01:58:08.980 women most like the it sounds like you want a self-respecting woman like high value all these

01:58:13.940 things don't you think most of those women would want to be married so you're you're limiting i want a

01:58:18.740 woman who realizes i want a woman who realizes that in this current social climate in this political

01:58:27.380 well not political in this social climate when it comes to the court system we don't need to get

01:58:32.260 we don't need to get uh the state involved in our relationship but the true i love you you love me

01:58:39.780 we don't need the state i agree the truly feminine would want like the nature of femininity would want

01:58:45.540 that protection the nature and i feel like you want a feminine girl i do i do like feminine women

01:58:51.300 but what i don't need i'm protecting us from the state babe yeah yeah i'll tell you this as a married

01:58:59.460 man that one of the greatest things i ever did in my life was get married i have been more productive

01:59:05.300 i've had more peace i mean it is the greatest decision a man can ever make it's it's the biggest

01:59:10.740 and greatest investment that you make in the rest of your life now if you're a man with integrity

01:59:15.460 and you're ready and you do your homework and and you're willing to pursue even when it gets tough

01:59:20.100 you get married and you make a commitment for life me and my wife are committed for life uh you know us

01:59:25.380 getting a divorce is not in the equation and i think because both of us are both uh mature enough

01:59:30.500 and willing to work through it it's not perfect you know sometimes we argue sometimes she get on my

01:59:34.580 nerves but at the end of the day you don't quit and give up because she got on my nerves one day we made

01:59:39.380 a commitment before god we made a commitment and it's on record and it's not it wouldn't behoove me

01:59:45.860 to not put my best effort into it because i got a lot on the line when you have when you have skin in

01:59:50.340 the game you're more willing to do more in a relationship than you are if you're if you don't

01:59:55.140 have skin in the game and you could just walk away at any time but that given how frequently there's

02:00:02.100 divorce it's not clear to me that marriage precludes people from because the divorce

02:00:09.700 exists well you need to look at you need to look at divorce in in segmentation right who what people

02:00:16.740 are you talking about are you talking about people who come together that are equally old are you

02:00:21.140 talking about people who are christians are you talking about people who get married young are you

02:00:24.180 talking about people who get married old people getting married with children involved yeah there's so

02:00:28.340 many different variations that may not even pertain to somebody like you you may not be in the in the

02:00:34.260 realm of the divorce there's a lot of people that get divorced for a lot of reasons that may not be your

02:00:40.100 reason when i think i'm the guy to to be honest i've thought about this and this is kind of i don't

02:00:44.420 know if this is almost like morbidly sad or whatever i feel like if i were to get married i'm not gonna lie

02:00:51.540 i'm kind of the dude that gets divorced i like like i'm the type of dude i'm just look and it's

02:00:59.860 it's like brutal it's brutal self-assessment and self-reflection i just feel as if like not all of

02:01:09.140 us can be brandon tatum like you're you're you're like because i'm kind of like a class clown guy you're

02:01:16.580 like the you're masculine you're you're tall i mean how tall are you six two six two okay i'm six

02:01:23.140 honestly not going so far my parents been in a relationship for 45 years they just got married

02:01:30.740 this year with three kids and they have never like divorced well not divorced because they can't but

02:01:38.180 they were together so i agree like you don't have to get married but i don't know if you marry someone

02:01:46.180 i just have this like this what's that have you seen uh minority report with tom cruise what what

02:01:52.100 was it called the the the the things that could see the future premonitions yeah i have a premonition

02:01:59.380 if i were to get married she's divorcing me which i don't know i'm just divorcing you

02:02:05.460 oh yeah no she divorces me oh yeah that's how it is women divorce the reason that you're doing this

02:02:10.740 the reason that you feel this way is because of the things that you read and self-talk yeah because

02:02:19.300 if you if you tell yourself this all the time or you had negative experiences with women and you

02:02:24.420 carry that on you're gonna believe that in every relationship what you have to do is that you have

02:02:28.900 to start telling yourself a different story stay positive you have to start telling yourself i'm going

02:02:32.820 to be married i'm going to stay married and you have to start looking forward to the woman that you're

02:02:36.740 going to marry before i got married to my wife every day and people probably think i'm crazy

02:02:41.300 but i don't care i manifested it and the reason i and how i manifest because when i would fly on

02:02:45.620 the airplane by myself i would envision me and my wife traveling together i would already think about

02:02:51.300 what me and my wife are going to do you want our children and you want if you want it and you see it

02:02:56.900 you believe it in your heart you pursue it then you will pursue it with an open mind and you'll pursue

02:03:01.380 it with the idea that this is going to work for me women like you say all the things about yourself

02:03:05.940 there's some women that love all of that some women don't like a guy like me they like a guy

02:03:11.620 like you they like a guy that's funny a guy that's self a self-starter you know all of the things that

02:03:17.700 you have that are qualities there's women out here that like that if you were a nerdy guy with glasses

02:03:22.340 on and you were geeky and you're in a tech some woman out there love that guy i feel like that guy is

02:03:28.660 more likely to get divorced than a guy like no that's not true that's not true i don't know like that's not

02:03:34.580 true because love is love man some people love people that that they resonate with derrick manx

02:03:40.260 one donated 99 office at atum glad to see you on here men with integrity like yourself will not

02:03:48.420 accept the lifestyle of girls it is sad to me to see the way society is moving ladies think better of

02:03:56.020 yourselves yo derrick very good to see you back in the chat man welcome back thank you so much for your

02:04:00.660 message appreciate it um also i feel like man i really shouldn't have brought the conversation

02:04:04.580 there of my own self-assessment of like and perhaps i'm being a bit hyperbolic there like is it plausible

02:04:11.300 that i could marry a girl and not get divorced of course um i i want to try to re redirect my

02:04:18.500 argumentation on this a little bit though um when it comes to marriage what

02:04:24.580 from the societal point of view because there's often a talk about and i and i 100 agree with this

02:04:32.100 the nuclear family very important it's the best the best way to raise children um but let's say

02:04:40.180 if we were comparing a married couple to a uh a non-married couple that's monogamous that stays

02:04:48.340 together for life and has children on a societal impact level i don't see the difference like what

02:04:57.060 benefit from a societal aspect does there to me there's no difference and then on the on a

02:05:07.380 relationship level i don't really see the really the difference between i'm going to stay with this

02:05:12.740 woman for the rest of my life life partner we're going to have kids it's going to be monogamous there's

02:05:18.420 not going to be infidelity i don't see the difference yeah go ahead um so so actually the reason why i put

02:05:28.580 such high value on marriage is because of what i saw growing up with my mother and father and how

02:05:34.740 my father played it was patriarchal he my mom stayed home it was patriarchal based yeah no no no like

02:05:43.860 patriarchy based house based like okay oh based yeah i got it um so um and now growing up that's what i

02:05:52.180 want from my particular family and and um i think that you want a patriarchal structure yeah cool you don't

02:06:00.260 need a marriage for that i i think i do because i'm no okay maybe you do but i'm saying i fail to see

02:06:09.300 what the difference between a marriage and a committed monogamous life partner like what is the

02:06:17.220 difference aside from tradition like observing a traditional thing because i want my children to see

02:06:25.700 that we made a commitment through through church i through through because i want i want to make

02:06:31.700 sure oh so it's a religious component it's a religious component remove religion from it because

02:06:36.020 again when it comes to marriage that's not just a religious thing it's also it's also the state's

02:06:42.020 involvement i agree that because because atheist people or a religious people or agnostic people can

02:06:48.660 also get married yes i know that but i think that for for me god played a really central role in my

02:06:55.300 upbringing and i want my kids to be the same and i think that a house that has god in it has less

02:07:02.660 discussion has less argument has less so that's why it's important for me but you cannot you can even

02:07:09.460 not be married and still be religious like you could you could be a christian and and be teaching

02:07:16.980 your children christian values and even then not get married well no but i mean it's yes i understand

02:07:23.300 marriage is like a yes i get that but socially i i don't know i mean i think some people there's

02:07:28.980 some like people talk about taxes i cannot give you an argument for why you should get married

02:07:34.180 outside of the religious motivation okay then just i mean fair yeah okay well i don't know that i'm i'm

02:07:42.180 not the voice of god i think it's really romantic that um in front of all of your like friends and

02:07:47.460 family you get up and claim each other and then if you stick with it it's like well it's almost yes

02:07:52.740 do you haven't dreamed of your wedding day since you were a little boy no that's that's i think

02:07:56.740 that's something women do but i know it's romantic and it's powerful it's it's biblical it's there's

02:08:01.700 something that's it's really romantic hold on let me just make respond to that okay yes it's really

02:08:07.540 romantic that you can make this commitment in front of all your friends and family and it's also

02:08:13.380 very pathetic when that commitment means nothing when your wife goes and sees a divorce attorney

02:08:19.780 and you end up getting divorced and all your friends are like wow i was there to witness the

02:08:25.140 vows that you said i was hold on i was there to see the words come out of your mouth till death do us

02:08:31.140 part your words mean nothing good day sir but why would i care about what everyone anyone else

02:08:38.340 like me and my partner i'm not i'm addressing her argument okay i'm addressing her argument i'm not

02:08:43.300 like fine you can have your own thing but she's saying well uh you you get in front of all your

02:08:48.820 friends and family and then it's this commitment till death do us part your words have to mean something

02:08:56.420 and frankly nowadays they don't whether you're religious or not maybe if you hate your last name

02:09:01.220 wait what that's the reason right you hate your last name yeah but you can get the legal name change

02:09:06.420 i have something to respond to you brian i i if i plan to get married i'm going in like he said

02:09:12.740 till death do us part i don't i'm going to take the word very serious yeah you say that i do but how

02:09:19.380 many people and i know that shit does happen and shit might happen and i'm hoping that it doesn't

02:09:24.180 but that's why we said we have very deep conversation the very strong conversations about

02:09:29.300 having kids about our health care what if one of us dies and stuff like power of attorney

02:09:34.020 exactly i know civil power of attorney exactly you give it you can give it to your girlfriend i

02:09:39.060 know i know but what i'm saying is is that i plan to go that that seriously and that's why we have

02:09:46.740 talked but you've not made a compelling argument to to convince me let me let me jump in the thing is

02:09:51.700 brian you like said that you're already going in with the narrative that someone's going to divorce

02:09:57.460 you that's why you don't take it as that that's why you i think every guy should think that that's

02:10:03.220 a it's a gamble yeah but it's it's a worthy investment it's a worthy risk you say what is

02:10:09.380 the benefit if it goes well it's the greatest thing that you can ever do as a man in my opinion

02:10:15.380 sure is to be married to one woman you be you it's incredibly important for a man to be stable

02:10:21.300 for a man to to have to not focus on all of this other stuff as a single man it's very difficult

02:10:26.100 i remember when i was single it was difficult man everywhere is this woman eligible this woman

02:10:29.940 i gotta go on a date i gotta spend all this money because i'm paying for the dates and so with my

02:10:34.420 wife it's just way different i came out here i'm going to the hotel i'm going to eat breakfast and

02:10:40.420 i'm going home to my wife i don't have to play no games we ain't got to text back and forward we

02:10:45.460 don't need to do nothing i mean when i say text back and forth meaning that are you did she still

02:10:48.580 like me do we like each other it has created such an incredible value in my life it's worth

02:10:53.780 the investment and and and just like with a contract nobody in here would just go off of

02:10:59.300 words right you know you have to sign a contract even when we came here there's a contract for

02:11:03.620 certain things marriage is right and you don't want to just go off a word oh somebody somebody's

02:11:08.340 word that's not enough somebody can say they love you but are they willing to put skin in the game

02:11:13.300 i told my wife i love her and i want to be able for the rest of my life okay that's good but i proved it

02:11:18.420 to her by changing her last name we're in a document that we're committed to and also i made

02:11:24.420 a vow before god i'm telling her i'm not just saying this i'm willing to go all away with it

02:11:30.100 because that's what it takes to make a sure commitment and i think that when you do that

02:11:34.500 you never look back in the what ifs you will die doing what else what if i started the podcast and it

02:11:40.420 didn't succeed right there's a possibility the podcast could not succeed and you could be out here

02:11:44.820 just in dead and crying yourself to sleep every night but the benefit of it actually succeeding

02:11:50.340 far outweighs that risk factor in the beginning but but so i mean you mentioned like all these

02:11:55.940 things you have your wife that you come home to and she's there but i guess what i'm trying to bring

02:12:01.460 it back to like i'm not advocating that men go and live these playboy lifestyles where they just run

02:12:06.820 through women they just sleep with women casually without any interest in pursuing something more

02:12:11.620 serious or long term that's not what i want what i'm saying is is that i could perfectly see myself

02:12:18.180 having the things that you have uh monogamy long term potentially children right i'm struggling to

02:12:26.980 see when it comes to marriage because all those things that you kind of listed i could have a monogamous

02:12:33.940 long-term loving relationship with one woman my entire life without getting married show me an example of

02:12:39.860 that somebody that you know that has done that successfully you probably have one i do one

02:12:45.620 one though but let me ask you how many do you have there's at least six in my family okay six you got

02:12:51.300 one everybody else how many you know that's just in a monogamous relationship a committed relationship

02:12:56.660 and they've been together faithful to one another for a period of time a long period of time my brother

02:13:01.780 one one one six one one zero and zero so it's it's it i know a ton of people that's in successful

02:13:12.900 great marriages and they're happy and i also know people that have been divorced absolutely but

02:13:17.060 more than likely the commitment the investment into it is more important and i think it means a lot more

02:13:24.900 more than two people you're going to have a hard time getting a wife that's the one you want that's

02:13:30.420 okay with the up in the air stuff because you could just leave her at the drop of a dime she want to

02:13:35.940 know that you're committed too and i say every woman is that way but when you sign that paper

02:13:40.740 you got a lot to lose my man it's less likely for you to walk away why i shouldn't do it though

02:13:45.060 that's why you should do it which is but you said you have a lot to lose so yeah i don't know

02:13:49.700 you have skin in the game but there's two people going into it it's a it's a contract it's like a

02:13:54.740 it's a business now it's making you're making it a business because you might want it to be like that

02:13:59.940 what if she says that she's like that too and then later we already spoke are you are you saying that

02:14:04.580 marriage is two people staying together under threat of a lawsuit from the other no no i'm saying

02:14:09.620 i'm saying i'm saying two people stand together out of love and commitment to one another and they

02:14:14.740 have all of these qualities and benefits even through the government of being married and they have

02:14:19.300 their name legally changed like my wife is legally her last name is tatum she is a tatum

02:14:25.380 she's not it's not hypothetical it's not like she she put a hyphen on it she is by law legally to her

02:14:30.660 driver's license her passport says tatum we she's officially a part of my family right so there but

02:14:39.380 here's the thing there are women who will go through all those steps they'll change their last name

02:14:44.180 there's the marriage certificate etc and divorce still happens so i here's the thing i feel like

02:14:50.660 most people when they get married hold on alvin sam donated 99 dollars it'll simplify it marriage is

02:14:57.460 designed for traditional breadwinners and not working partners but the reality is that both parties must be

02:15:03.780 financially independent so that defeats the purpose of marriage marriage is outdated abolish it

02:15:10.980 it's a business now i don't think i mean you're a businessman right you have a very successful

02:15:17.220 youtube channel you're a content creator and i'm sure like you know i've been doing content creation

02:15:22.180 for 10 years uh when you're in the content creation space you know you do sponsorships you're negotiating

02:15:27.700 various contracts maybe you have people that work for you so i'm sure you have to some degree and

02:15:31.860 maybe you have an attorney but i feel like we start getting a little adept when it comes to you know you've

02:15:36.820 you've reviewed contracts and stuff and i mean as a businessman you never sign a contract with

02:15:42.500 someone who's rewarded for breaking it and i feel like in today's day and age women are rewarded when

02:15:47.940 they break the marriage contract that's financially that's what we're told it's not just about money

02:15:53.940 if my wife were to leave me it's more than money she'll get she has you got things you're a giga chat

02:16:00.100 she'll get you're a giga chat but no she'll get she'll get 50 right now she has 100 she that's

02:16:06.500 a big difference sure she has 100 right now she get anything she wants anything i have it's hers

02:16:12.020 all of it 100 she leaves she only get 50 and then she lose the connection she lose the protection

02:16:18.020 who do you think keep her safe who do you think make sure she got a roof over here let's go right

02:16:22.020 here who do you think is making sure that they got food she ain't got to worry about nothing and i know

02:16:25.780 that it's not everybody but ain't nobody gonna leave that that's a net negative for her to leave

02:16:31.380 me sure just to get money it's not all about the money but would you also acknowledge that in today's

02:16:36.020 day and age with the con with the economy as it is most couples they're probably not in the same

02:16:41.620 situation as you you're obviously incredibly successful i would say though isn't it the case

02:16:46.580 for most people they need to rely on two incomes right so i think that most people decide to live

02:16:52.900 that way i don't think they have to i think people want to have two cars and they want to

02:16:56.740 have all that stuff lifestyle creep yeah i think that lifestyle you can make your lifestyle conducive

02:17:02.260 for the woman to stay at home and a man to go to work hey brother get out there and work two jobs

02:17:06.180 maybe work a night shift yeah you know bring home the money and the wife take care of the kids y'all

02:17:10.020 don't have kids it's okay for both y'all to work if that's what you want sure but people cannot make

02:17:13.860 the excuse to say we just can't do it because of the modern economy you you can make it happen if you if

02:17:19.460 you you live within your means and i think if that's what you want you could do it gotcha um

02:17:24.500 we're going to move off of marriage here really quick and try to get into some other topics i have

02:17:28.820 a couple chats here that we're going to get through then we'll get to some of our other topics we had

02:17:32.180 jbs from about 40 minutes ago disagree with brandon there i'm basing that on the conversation earlier

02:17:37.620 the vast majority aren't even having sex to create hose most women end up picking a very small percentage

02:17:43.780 of men that create this narrative because they have all the leverage

02:17:49.940 what does that mean this is this was before the marriage conversation i think this is related to

02:17:55.460 um oh it's already aren't having it's a cop that uh oh i'm reading i was reading a different one

02:18:02.180 most women end up having picking a very small percentage of men because they have oh wait this

02:18:07.300 was related to um this one i'll pull it up one more time just yeah

02:18:16.100 oh oh creating hose so like i think you were i think you were saying something about how like men

02:18:21.620 have this responsibility because men are just sleeping with women and you're not you're not wrong but i

02:18:28.020 think what he's trying to say is it's actually a very small proportion of men that are responsible for

02:18:32.900 women having high body counts because like you look at an average guy he can't most men don't

02:18:38.820 have access to hookup culture whereas almost any single woman has access to hookup culture like

02:18:44.660 take an average woman if she was so inclined she could have sex with seven new men a week whereas

02:18:49.780 an average guy like he's probably struggling just to get a girlfriend right but the seven new men

02:18:55.540 should be honorable men and not participate in it so just just think about this i think a lot of people

02:19:00.420 forget because they can only see women external from them and when i say that i mean think about

02:19:05.700 your sister think about your mother think about your daughter if you're if you're a father do you

02:19:12.660 want a man to treat your daughter like that that's how we should think about it you're like okay i like

02:19:16.900 this girl but i respect her enough that's like i did my wife of course my wife is beautiful yeah in

02:19:22.020 my mind i'm like yeah i would love to but i respected my wife enough i said i will not go there with

02:19:28.020 this woman unless i'm willing to make a commitment because i respected her i respected you know her

02:19:32.580 father and all this other stuff so i think men should think about that in the context of relationships

02:19:38.260 and dating think about it would you want somebody just smashing your mama or kind of in a relationship

02:19:42.580 not in a relationship i'm kind of thinking about i don't know if i'm really be willing to be committed

02:19:46.740 you don't want somebody treating your mama like that so you know a man should kind of think that way

02:19:50.980 and not waste your time with these with getting another body count and i'm saying this as a man who

02:19:56.420 i never cared about this when i was in college yeah i i want to run it up i mean if any beautiful

02:20:03.460 woman would sleep with me when i was in college i probably would have slept with her so i'm not some

02:20:07.860 holier than thou dude that had never been around i've learned over time and this is the conclusion

02:20:12.660 that i've come to is that i will teach my son to be celibate you do not want to waste your time and i

02:20:20.580 think that if more fathers were engaged with their sons and their daughters we'll see a lot less of the

02:20:26.020 hookup culture of regret now some women want to sleep with a lot of men have fun some people want

02:20:31.620 to do porn and all that stuff if that's what you want to do have fun some men don't care about

02:20:35.300 marriage they want to sleep with they want to get stds or whatever else to come with it baby mamas

02:20:39.300 then don't worry about what i'm saying i'm talking about the people that get hurt that really want

02:20:42.900 love and that really want to be you know in a committed relationship sure got it let's get a couple

02:20:49.300 chats here we have chico papa i don't speak spanish can somebody read this for me

02:20:53.380 mamacitas a que hora sales for a pan what is that no what is that in english well mama what

02:21:00.900 time do you go out for the bread okay so that's like it's like uh basically saying like at what

02:21:06.900 time do you go out for the bread so i can go out and see oh yeah i'll see you okay we have another

02:21:12.260 one here from chico papa papa chica thank you for the 50 uh can you read this one what do you know i

02:21:18.980 can't cut a thing read it karen to the real estate chula just make tamales and mira

02:21:23.700 te traigo a mi casa and make you mi nacaranda i don't know what nacaranda mean but i can kind

02:21:30.420 of deduce what the rest of it is a little i mean that's rude is it sexual what did it say well

02:21:35.780 basically nacaranda is like someone who's like ditzy and like just talks like dance so shut up and make

02:21:41.460 the tamales like basically yeah you just make yeah be my maid okay all right we have uh we got

02:21:49.060 her in here yo brandon i'm a fan and appreciate your assessment and perspective on things and i

02:21:54.420 agree with you i used to work in midtown team three and other officers have nothing but good things

02:21:59.620 to say about you also 15 is low question mark uh gtfo woman and men are different okay thank you

02:22:07.940 hern uh jude do you have a response to her or just no just shout out brother i mean he worked on the

02:22:11.620 police department same tucson so me is team three oh gotcha shout out to the tucson brother we got

02:22:16.500 zorkoth 14 thank you thank you man appreciate it brian you're making yourself look weak i was not that

02:22:22.420 long ago in a relationship with a woman who i would call a unicorn she was as close to perfect as you

02:22:27.140 could get and i me myself messed up but at least i'm man enough to admit it okay i think this is

02:22:33.780 probably in relation to the uh this came in right after the some of the divorce stuff we were talking

02:22:38.740 about so all right there you have it weak brian over here okay so let's uh we got some more topics

02:22:45.060 to get into um let's see uh actually here we'll pull this one up we had someone m1 garand would any

02:22:52.020 of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm uh we'll start with you go ahead um i dated a woman

02:22:57.780 who had seven of them is that your ex yeah she had seven guns yeah cool um

02:23:05.940 so yes so yes okay i would yeah no no wouldn't take a guy who legally owned a firearm legally legally

02:23:15.140 no because one tried to use one on me oh because one tried to use one on me okay so you had a previous

02:23:21.380 poor experience with did he legally own it was he legally on the fire he tried to use it on you

02:23:27.540 yeah jeez you see one of those gangsters you like

02:23:34.900 she goes she's like you said you like them hey maybe they'll pull a gun on you every now and

02:23:40.180 again oh my god you know have you ever uh some there's like a thing that i guess some women are

02:23:47.060 into during sex they want a gun to their head yeah i heard when i was a police officer kink or something

02:23:54.100 when i was a police officer it was a unfortunate situation where people were having sex and the

02:23:58.900 gun was loaded and the girl ended up shooting killing the guy you can't do it with it she went

02:24:04.260 to jail i mean but that that's that maybe they maybe they wanted to be real oh because like i could get

02:24:09.700 it like you want the metal but like you can't have it loaded but it's like it's almost like people do

02:24:13.860 rush and relay they get it so like it's really loaded can i really get killed did you respond i didn't

02:24:18.180 respond to it no i just heard of it when you heard the call yeah they were i heard of it it was it was

02:24:22.420 very unfortunate they thought they thought she had killed her boyfriend you know in a murder

02:24:27.380 situation boy well i can see that the boyfriend wanted the girl to hold yeah like as a king yeah i

02:24:33.460 think it was to the chest but it regardless they thought she murdered him but then they looked

02:24:38.740 through text messages and investigation revealed that they were actually they would do this and this

02:24:42.660 was a sex act wait so it turns out was it manslaughter did she get charged me i can't

02:24:47.540 remember what they charged her with it probably would have been manslaughter if it was unintentional

02:24:51.620 the men was the police no no he went to police officer it was just a random two people doing

02:24:55.780 that for their pleasure because even if it's like consensual and he said hey i want you to hold a

02:25:01.700 loaded gun yeah it's still negligent yeah so there's probably some criminal liability it is a criminal

02:25:07.380 liability unless he said i want you to pull the trigger you actually pulled the trigger so

02:25:12.500 right you actually were your negligent behavior led to the death of somebody else yes okay wow

02:25:17.620 that's interesting i mean people choke each other there too i haven't said they they just and then

02:25:22.980 they did so oh what about you legally i don't know did a guy who owns a firearm yes sure i don't know

02:25:30.740 now but i guess yes still if he knows how to use it yeah sure yeah well how do you know if you know

02:25:36.020 how to use it you shoot if it's legal if it's legal you need to take a class for that like no what i'm

02:25:42.980 saying is that do you run them through a test or do you just accept they know that what they're doing

02:25:47.220 so my my i don't know my grandpa teaches how people how to shoot where i'm from so yeah he'd tell me

02:25:53.860 just going back to you going back to you so it sounds like you had a bad previous experience he tried

02:26:01.700 wait did he shoot at you do you have a gunshot wound what's up no okay no uh i didn't open the

02:26:07.460 door did you call the police huh did you call the police we don't snitch around here oh see there

02:26:12.420 you go oh okay gangster to pull a gun and she won't even call on him okay um so

02:26:20.740 so your concern would be he might use the gun i mean i on it even if he like

02:26:27.060 own the gun or whatever they say that that didn't happen to me i don't like guns okay so you don't

02:26:31.700 like i just i don't i don't agree with the whole thing i don't believe in them i i just i wouldn't

02:26:35.780 wait a minute you don't believe in them what do you mean you think nobody should have guns i don't

02:26:39.380 yeah i just don't feel why do you need to have a gun why do you need to kill somebody why do you need

02:26:43.460 to hurt somebody with a gun you don't like for what i just don't agree with it and just open this up to

02:26:48.580 the other women some of them besides you everyone else said you would date a guy who owns a firearm

02:26:54.020 um but when it comes to guns do you does anyone here share her view on guns or is it i was like

02:27:01.620 that once you changed though yeah okay because the because of the because something happened the

02:27:06.500 the lesbian woman with the seven guns is that um she changed her mind it changed it changed my mind

02:27:11.380 because uh we got our house broken into okay but i but i feel prior to that did she clip a bunch of

02:27:21.140 crackheads trying to break into the house she she came with that lifestyle already oh okay all right

02:27:27.940 yeah well so just going back to you you said that you just aren't about it well question um

02:27:33.300 maybe i'll use her example let's say you're have you've lived with a boyfriend before let's say you're

02:27:39.380 live with your boyfriend uh and three men three grown men break into your house uh and you said you had a

02:27:48.580 a son or a daughter i know they're an adult now but let's say 10 years back they're a kid let's say

02:27:53.540 you're living with your boyfriend you're living and your son's living with you three grown men break

02:27:57.860 into your house you don't know what they want maybe they're they're there to burglarize who knows maybe

02:28:02.660 your gangster boyfriend's got some beef who knows he really a gangster like he said yeah so in that

02:28:08.420 situation where it's just you your son and your boyfriend three grown men break into the house

02:28:14.020 in that situation would you prefer would you want your boyfriend to have a firearm

02:28:20.900 no i just i don't agree with the guns i don't agree i'll probably help them look for whatever

02:28:24.500 they're trying to look for but so but so in that scenario like i just how would you would you prefer

02:28:30.260 your boyfriend to defend you if you had the choice would you prefer your prefer your boyfriend to

02:28:35.300 defend you with his fists or a bat or something or would you prefer we're gonna beat their ass and that's

02:28:40.980 just that but they have a but but you don't oh they have they have you don't know you don't know

02:28:45.540 what they have what would you prefer would you like your man in that situation to have a firearm

02:28:52.100 no i just i don't agree with the whole thing no so you'd be willing

02:28:56.500 no i just i don't like guns so you so you expect him so but but just say three dudes come in there

02:29:02.020 i'm talking about real there's other weapons but like if he said sweetheart i want a gun and you would

02:29:08.980 say no you don't need a gun get out there and fight is that what is that how you would proceed

02:29:14.580 you don't need a gun to do it that's what you would tell them you don't need a gun with three dudes

02:29:18.180 no there's other things you can use in the house you don't need a gun you got bats in there you got

02:29:21.860 knives you got other you can use you don't need a gun what if they had a gun crossbow but you know

02:29:27.380 it's too late now they're in there you can't be like hey y'all hold on y'all got a gun no you can't do that

02:29:32.260 and they then you know what that's life maybe that's the way i gotta die then i gotta die that's

02:29:36.820 how i go so you rather somebody so you rather somebody shoot you before your son is your son's

02:29:46.020 life is on the line my son let me let me ask uh brandon a question on this brandon she said that

02:29:51.940 well let's assume that the three men they don't have any weapons right let's just assume it's probably

02:29:57.860 unlikely that that's the case but let's say she wants him to throw fists with the three dudes

02:30:03.940 now let's say you're like black belt in jujitsu you you let's say you're even a professional mma fighter

02:30:12.740 versus three guys that's to me that's still like

02:30:18.340 it's three on one one of them dudes maybe street two they know how to fight they've been squabbing in

02:30:24.660 the street for a long time i i think it's irrational to think that way you got to put it

02:30:30.100 you got to compartmentalize you may not like guns because of your experience but i think it would be

02:30:35.220 reasonable to say you need an adequate tool to defend your household in case three or four dudes

02:30:41.380 want to come and tie y'all up and rape you or something i mean i didn't want to say that

02:30:46.260 y'all want to tie you up and do something nefarious to you you need that level of protection and

02:30:51.540 and the guns aren't as bad as some people think that they are once you have a gun and you shoot

02:30:56.580 it you'll realize the value of having a gun and there's a lot of other reasons why you would want

02:31:00.900 a gun tyrannical government all of the other stuff but please don't do your man like that

02:31:05.380 government don't know wait but so make them in that situation no no that's fine that's fine you can

02:31:10.500 say no i was just reinforcing i was like the i was the core the i don't know whatever uh so in the

02:31:17.300 situation three dudes break into the house don't want a gun you have the option to have a gun right

02:31:25.860 wouldn't you wouldn't want a gun in that situation and just i don't agree with them

02:31:28.980 no agree i don't like it i've had you know why maybe i feel maybe i feel maybe i feel this way

02:31:35.060 because i have had five members who died being shot maybe i feel that way about guns i just don't

02:31:39.700 you know i'm saying but in that specific situation would you not want a firearm like how

02:31:45.940 you're gonna fight in that situation i mean don't don't think about it there's three people

02:31:50.900 in your house what are you doing well fuck it we're all dying then i guess go ahead have a gun

02:31:54.420 we're all gonna we're all just gonna have a shooting to to just say we're all gonna die just to not

02:32:00.740 have a gun present i mean even if the person is proficient and they're using it to protect you

02:32:05.620 your children from bad guys okay okay what what if my guy what if my guy did have a gun right and he he

02:32:11.620 has it but there's three guys right yeah bang bang bang there we go you're dead anyways no no

02:32:18.260 what if they pull out and they got you because he has a gun well you know he has a gun but what if he

02:32:22.660 ends up what if someone gets him in the head he's dead he has the gun his hand now now i'm dead no

02:32:27.060 you pick up the gun and then how am i gonna pick up the gun they're pointing it at me i ain't got time

02:32:31.060 to grab this is what it is you want to make the fight you want to make the fight is is advantageous for

02:32:37.460 you as possible so having a gun is advantageous for you and if you have fears of guns it would

02:32:43.700 behoove you to talk to somebody about it or or take a gun go get shooting lessons yeah and therefore

02:32:50.020 you can you can overcome that fear because at some point you may find a man that has a gun in the

02:32:56.500 house and that doesn't need to be a deal breaker for you in my opinion what about a guard i don't think

02:33:01.220 a guard dog honestly i think that's the best i've lived in the hood a guard dog would get shot

02:33:07.220 no but if you have a really scary rottweiler wait a minute wait are you saying listen i don't know

02:33:12.020 why this is crazy wait but no i'm not saying it would be wrong like a trained guard dog but are

02:33:16.980 you saying instead of in lieu of having a firearm please don't i mean i'm saying like i think like

02:33:24.340 i think that's a good alternative i'm not saying alternative i'm not saying alternative what do you

02:33:29.140 well what do you say i'm just saying if i was going to defend myself i think the first

02:33:33.700 before a gun i would want a dog because then people they hear it and they're really like i

02:33:37.780 mean and i'm not talking like a golden doodle i'm talking like a 120 pound rottweiler because

02:33:42.180 people don't really want to like you you're gonna get a rottweiler 120 pound i lived four years with

02:33:48.100 the family they had a 120 pound rottweiler his name was samson shout out to strongest man in the bible

02:33:52.660 like even some of these big dogs yeah no somebody what like it's not a guarantee that they're gonna

02:33:59.140 listen all they have to do is throw peanut butter no that dog is gonna eat that peanut butter and he's

02:34:08.020 gonna have a hard time chewing it and he can't bite that's what that's how they do those dogs are

02:34:13.300 well trained and they're very different so they're they're they're like 30 000 dogs those police dogs

02:34:19.460 are incredible they're on a different level be a give you a little bit of they might start barking

02:34:25.540 that could give you some awareness but i don't think that should be like first line that's not

02:34:31.700 going to prevent like if you don't have a firearm or that's not going to prevent something from

02:34:37.300 happening this is where see this is where if i had a husband i'd be cool with having a gun because

02:34:43.300 he's but i've gone to a shooting range and i'm very like reactive so me with this gun i was like

02:34:47.940 like and it scared the hell out and you know what i mean i didn't even so i'm just i know that i

02:34:52.980 i didn't hit the target at all it was bad okay let me i think i'd be a moral liability listen real

02:34:58.580 quick um um there's there's this um it's called emdr or there's trauma exposure therapy just i can

02:35:06.180 give you guys the link and then have someone you love and trust like my brother-in-law he's a sheriff for

02:35:11.540 the lapd um um and he learned he actually taught me how to disarm uh many times first and then he

02:35:20.900 took us to me and my sister to the shooting range until we got um really comfortable enough i personally

02:35:27.380 don't own a gun because guns scare me too um but if i were to have a husband i would feel way more safe

02:35:34.340 or a or a boyfriend way more safe if he knew how to use a gun in the house but um i would look into

02:35:40.580 it because honestly guns are safe to someone you trust and can feel because honestly there are a

02:35:47.300 lot of crime crimes are going up and people that are mentally um ill with mental illness are going up

02:35:54.340 we do have to move on here okay so i'm finally going to get to some of the pre-show notes that you

02:35:58.260 guys provided for us we're going to start with serena right you're currently dating your ex-girlfriend's

02:36:05.700 ex-girlfriend's dad lol whoa that's what so tell us about that um dating my ex-girlfriend's ex-girlfriend's

02:36:16.580 dad how old how old is he he's old he's in his 40s i'm not gonna like give too many like specific

02:36:22.980 details because they might be watching hey okay um but um yeah so uh

02:36:33.140 i already was in tune i was already introduced to him before okay and um oh sorry derek manx one

02:36:43.460 donated 99 thank you derek man appreciate it i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and

02:36:48.420 not have it it's a sad existence to just let it happen and judge people for protecting their

02:36:53.860 families just put a sign outside gun free zone works for chicago

02:37:03.940 if you know you know um okay so it sounds like you don't really want to talk about that

02:37:10.020 too much yeah it's it's cool it's just that it's it's it's like a little plot twist i found out after

02:37:15.780 the fact that we me and her broke up we're still sharing my daughter right so my daughter goes over

02:37:21.220 there sometimes and um i find out that her ex-girlfriend was going to the house which means

02:37:27.780 that they were still in communication because for her to go to that to the house where i was living at

02:37:33.300 soon enough that means they were still in communication which i caught her a lot of times

02:37:37.700 yeah so out of nowhere her dad hits my dms and is like um oh how are you you know liking it over

02:37:45.620 there or whatever and i tell him what happened and how his daughter's over there he didn't know about

02:37:52.260 that and i end up knowing that um my ex ended up sleeping with him so uh now me and him are

02:38:02.020 word word it's trauma good times you expect it to go somewhere no oh okay um sneaky link

02:38:12.100 in your other note here you said that men have to pay to sleep with women and women look to get

02:38:18.420 money out of it it's a business so what do you mean there like now are you talking from personal

02:38:23.940 experience or yeah i'm talking have you had sugar daddies that kind of stuff i have i used to i used to

02:38:29.780 be a sugar baby i used to be a dancer oh you used to dance i used to date a porn star you dated the

02:38:37.220 you used to be or you dated a i dated a porn okay we're friends a girl or a boy a boy okay a man or

02:38:43.940 woman i guess yeah but it is i feel like nowadays now like when i'm hearing all of you guys talk about

02:38:51.300 how how you guys are talking about like the dating and the marriage and stuff this is like strange to me

02:38:57.700 because i'm coming from a from a place where i'm even my mom was like well you know what don't don't

02:39:04.340 marry somebody for love marry somebody who's gonna who's gonna pay your bills marry someone's

02:39:09.220 gonna buy your house you know it's like a business now where i come from and the dating that goes around

02:39:15.620 me like i'm not gonna oh i don't want to date him because he's broke i want to date his dad because his

02:39:21.220 dad has money owns businesses i know that i'm gonna be well off even if he sponsors goals it's

02:39:27.700 still like a business so women now it's like i'm not gonna sleep but oh actually some women are like

02:39:33.060 i'm gonna sleep with him for free because he's hot but most of the time the women around me are sleeping

02:39:38.500 with men because it's convenient because they're gonna get something out of it and a lot of the time

02:39:44.500 men around me as well will say well they want to get their money up just to be able to have the girl

02:39:51.860 they want how do you think that dynamic is working out it's not yeah but it seems like it's like a

02:39:59.860 it's it's a circle that just keeps happening yeah in my community it's called trauma trauma yeah it is

02:40:06.580 just trauma and i feel like it's it's i'm not sure if it's because of where i'm from or my culture

02:40:12.420 because i'm not i'm mexican but i'm not liked in in mexico like if i go to mexico like oh you're not

02:40:21.460 you're not like us but out here me being looked at as a mexican it's like i'm i don't fit in either

02:40:27.140 so it's kind of like it became a culture to be chicano and chicano is a lot being chicano comes with a

02:40:33.860 lot of trauma yeah yeah i think the same thing i grew up with everybody divorced baby mamas and baby

02:40:40.820 daddies and all this crazy stuff and and it is generational and cultural you know when i was

02:40:45.460 growing up i had a piece of uh paper that i wrote about my goals in five years when i was a senior

02:40:50.980 in high school and one of my goals was to have a child and then a year later marry my baby mama is

02:40:56.420 what i wrote in that piece of paper and that's generational chaos oh yeah passed down that i'm

02:41:03.780 hoping that people that watch the show can overcome and say that is they can identify it and say that

02:41:09.700 is generational trauma that's not love and you deserve better a lot of times and my wife when i

02:41:14.980 talk about this all the time and this is her saying this is that a lot of women because of the trauma

02:41:20.260 that they've been through they feel like they don't deserve it they feel like because daddy didn't love

02:41:24.420 me maybe i don't deserve to be loved and that's not true and i really wish that through conversations

02:41:30.180 like this people can develop a mindset to go up and beyond that and realize that marriage is really

02:41:36.020 a good thing and loving for money is is only going to lead to hurt well that's the well when i my best

02:41:42.660 relationship was with a woman my best relationship all the men that i've had before they they weren't

02:41:50.500 living up to this expectation of of marrying this man but this woman that i was in a four-year

02:41:56.420 relationship with within nine months she proposed to me so i started seeing something like okay

02:42:02.260 marriage probably does exist because as a child i never saw i never pictured being married i never

02:42:07.060 pictured my wedding dress or anything like that because again because of what i grew up with but

02:42:12.340 then i see i meet her she's she's on at the beach she's on one knee she's asking me to marry her she comes

02:42:19.620 from a family with you know uh they're also uh very religious she comes from an island where people

02:42:28.340 love each other and family is first i married into something that was fake so it makes you married

02:42:36.580 you married her no well not married but you know i lived with her and we used to call each other you

02:42:40.660 and my wife my wife a wife wife is there somebody like if a lesbian couple gets married is one of them

02:42:47.460 wear a suit or do they both wear she would wear a suit she'd be the one to wear the suit yeah okay

02:42:54.100 i've seen where they both wear dresses it just depends on if one of them there's there's different

02:42:59.540 yeah to lesbianism i would say there's different stages there's the femme the stem the stud

02:43:05.700 the butch and the dyke what is what's the still yeah i heard the butch and the dyke or whatever

02:43:11.060 what's the still i would be a femme and then so you're a feminine woman yes and what's the still

02:43:17.540 though a stem is a mixture between a femme and a stud what's a stud but what is a stud is like a

02:43:24.980 born in jay like a boy uh basically she still has her hair maybe cut shapes it off halfway you know

02:43:30.660 but you're you're still very feminine but very masculine so a stem would be a girl who dresses like

02:43:37.220 a boy but still wears makeup oh but would she be that would she be the man in the relationship

02:43:43.860 because i mean you get what i'm saying because in the dynamic like the other person was the man

02:43:48.740 she was dressed like a boy she got on one knee she's like traditionally the male in the relationship

02:43:54.020 with the stem be that wouldn't depend on the she can do that but i mean two femmes can do that too

02:43:59.140 there's no there's really no i i got something here i got uh moving to diane you said

02:44:05.700 diane huh diane oh sorry sorry sorry my bad my bad um two guys i dated tried to kill me yeah so

02:44:13.780 my gosh it sounds like you've had both gun related or no one had a knife at my neck that one was

02:44:20.020 different yeah good times good times um like okay uh so you said one had his side piece bust all the

02:44:31.060 windows to my car and put bullet holes on my driver's side while i was in the house till this

02:44:37.940 day she could never face me yet she called me to apologize and i will beat her ass the day i see her

02:44:45.940 yeah okay yeah good times um wow okay okay you've had some you've had a colorful uh that's just one

02:44:56.660 story oh that's just one okay she's got romantic um number two been single for going on seven years

02:45:01.620 don't think i'll ever date again because people are scando and sleep around yep um

02:45:10.180 but i love it but i mean you said you've been single for seven years but there's been some

02:45:13.860 sneaky links right a little piece here piece there a little something something i mean there was someone

02:45:19.060 i was like talking to for like by talking like seeing him for like about six months and then

02:45:26.340 when you say talking to do you mean having sex with sleeping with yeah okay yeah so it's not just

02:45:31.380 like strictly talking like you know what i mean you know what i mean you get a girl to say i was just

02:45:36.660 i talked to only two dudes in between that's what that's what they made okay they were smashing okay

02:45:40.900 gotcha um so uh also uh how i see it if you're dating someone don't get your feelings too deeply

02:45:48.500 involved because you're not the only one they are seeing it enjoy it for what it is now you're

02:45:54.260 saying like that the men you were dating they would be seeing multiple women but were you seeing multiple

02:45:59.220 men no if i'm talking to somebody i'm gonna be all about that just one okay yeah that's respect respect

02:46:07.940 okay yeah okay got it got it we have jessica here jessica jessica yes yes is it jessica or jessica

02:46:16.900 jessica okay yes a guy was going to move here from england to start dating me but i met my current

02:46:22.580 boyfriend in the meantime and canceled the trip how did that work so you're saying you were talking to

02:46:27.940 a guy so i i was i used to live in england and i met him and then we well he asked me to be his

02:46:36.340 girlfriend before i came back you came back to the us yeah yeah so then we continued dating um but then

02:46:42.820 going out everything i met who my current boyfriend is and i started liking him more but he already

02:46:49.140 had plans to move here in december so but this no this december last december five years yeah wait so

02:47:00.820 let me get a time frame here so okay how long were you in the uk for i was there for six months six

02:47:07.860 months and when did you meet you were dating the guy for you met him pretty early on in the trip or

02:47:13.540 no uh just like two months two months yeah uh you guys like each other you move but you have to move

02:47:21.620 back to the united states how quickly after moving back to the united states states did you meet your

02:47:26.340 current boyfriend um like four months four months after having moved back once i was here and so

02:47:34.820 you in the meantime for that four month period you were in a long distance relationship with the guy

02:47:41.540 in england yes and it was exclusive um yes okay so in that four month period he was making plans to

02:47:50.980 eventually come visit you uh so when was he scheduled to come visit you so for december to spend like all

02:48:00.740 the holidays with my family let's let's say okay so you met him you were in england for you knew him

02:48:08.020 for two months you were there for six months you knew him for two months you were in a long distance

02:48:12.340 relationship with him for four months um yeah when at what so okay four months the end of the four

02:48:21.220 months is when october november um november okay so he was he was gonna move after four months

02:48:31.140 well i guess come to visit her to visit yeah so you and then you met your now current boyfriend and

02:48:39.300 then so he had already bought the plane tickets oh my god he was he gonna stay with you a hotel uh with

02:48:49.060 me but so how how soon before his flight did you call things off boarding

02:48:59.620 group one i mean completely off like a month before half of a month before the flight no okay oh it was

02:49:07.700 sooner sister said snitch she knows she's gonna tell it i think it was sooner like one like later like

02:49:17.380 like a day no like a day no but i remember you were like it's because she just something something

02:49:25.540 happened and then we were gonna work on it but what happened i liked my current boyfriend more so i was

02:49:32.580 like no so i'm so confused did he cry wow that's she don't know she blocked him he has the plane

02:49:40.820 she blocked like eight hundred dollars at least no he blocked me he blocked the england self-respecting

02:49:46.900 man the england's boyfriend okay that's good times good times that's why that's why you shouldn't do

02:49:52.740 long distance no yeah um but you told him that you like this other guy i mean i told him obviously yeah

02:49:58.580 because i wasn't into my like like my current boyfriend he came up to me and i was like not

02:50:03.860 interested at all yeah and then this is funny because he then came to me and said i like your friend

02:50:10.740 and i was like what like he would come to me start talking about this other girl so then i started

02:50:16.820 talking to him and then we got to know each other and i liked him i don't know it was very weird

02:50:21.060 okay um yeah she wanted she wanted him after that other friend she's like oh you like my other friend

02:50:32.260 i gotta get him now

02:50:36.900 good times i was young okay good times so basically what you're saying is is that

02:50:44.500 with your current boyfriend you can't do long distance right we did long distance oh you did

02:50:53.380 with your current boy okay yeah um ailyn right eileen eileen sorry i can't pronounce names tonight

02:51:00.580 um you had a couple notes here why can't you have guy friends when dating that was your question why

02:51:08.420 can't you have guy friends so you're saying like if you're dating a guy and he doesn't want

02:51:13.060 you to hang out with guy friends is that kind of right yeah because i mean i'll because they want

02:51:20.660 to fuck you your male friends want to have sex let's let's keep it real all out of all of your

02:51:28.500 guy friends have you slept with any one of them no so anybody that you've been with are they still your

02:51:33.700 friend no now if if you gave them an opportunity would they no your friend your guy friends

02:51:43.220 are they gay no are they single i have to say some some yes and some no tell the truth come on

02:51:51.540 sister so the thing is that that um they stop being friends is because they always like like her

02:51:59.860 and want to date her and she's like we're friends so listen listen can i can i can i can i tell you

02:52:06.740 what men are thinking me and my wife talk about this all the time these men would if you give them

02:52:13.060 a time of date they'll take advantage of it men know that so when you're dating and you have these

02:52:18.420 men lingering around other men feel intimidated by that because they know you give one of them an

02:52:23.300 opportunity and they coming in for the kill just that's all i'm saying but once they start like they

02:52:28.260 tell me like oh i like you i'm like okay bye you know like you're not my friend anymore all of my best

02:52:34.500 friends guy friends that end up liking me i'm like okay no bye you know like this is for the whole

02:52:42.980 table here uh who here currently has a male friend male friend does a co-worker count

02:52:50.180 who here has a male friend that's single currently here's what i want all of you to do take out your

02:53:01.860 phone i want you to text him and say hey ah shit what what's the go-to text do you want to cuddle

02:53:09.380 or you we could change it up you need to say something like hi listen i've been thinking i have

02:53:18.420 feelings for you do you want to she's going through i was gonna say here but since you brought it up

02:53:26.020 take out your phone right now i want you to text one of your male friends can we can we go what what's

02:53:31.620 is it in the bag or is it just on the table here we'll have someone grab your bag is this everybody

02:53:37.860 text or should if you want to text multiple male friends and see if they're dtf the black one go for

02:53:42.820 it maybe winky face want to cuddle i don't know i am now sabotaging all your male friendships by the

02:53:48.180 way but i'm telling you even if it wasn't that that intrusive you will know is if you text them

02:53:56.420 and they respond like this they'll respond like this if you just say what do you want us to text

02:54:02.420 how you doing and they go like this i don't want to do him like that i'm not telling you i want to

02:54:08.580 cuddle mm-hmm that okay i'll tell you i just ain't no man want to be a friend with want to be a friend

02:54:15.780 with you i agree men are friends with men women are friends with women it's rare that you would have

02:54:21.780 a man that's a friend with a woman especially attractive woman and he just want to be friends

02:54:26.020 in his yeah he's playing the game you got some male friends i do he's hanging on there is one that i

02:54:31.460 know would respond positively to that and there's one that i know that wouldn't either way you mean

02:54:36.900 positively mean he will respond and want to say yes or question mark one i'm i know would winky face

02:54:43.700 because of how frequently he texts me and is like following himself so i know the other um i think i

02:54:49.300 would do you want to cuddle or hey i want to cuddle because i just text hey i want to cuddle he's gonna

02:54:54.180 be like what he's gonna be i would say wanna cuddle question mark winky face that's how you say it

02:54:59.860 it's not the most perfect message but i think it gets the point across oh my god wow

02:55:05.780 i mean sometime could be a other friend but see see you have how many guy friends you said um like

02:55:16.100 three like like best friend guy friends how many did you message just one because you know the one

02:55:22.260 that'll say yes oh no but not right now i don't have like in my whole life it's been oh i thought you

02:55:26.980 mean currently no no because i'm like you went to one and why would you go to that one over the

02:55:32.740 other ones no no this is the only one right now like good friend yeah see but this is this is what

02:55:38.500 you were saying the good friend that you're not even confident this person's not going to respond

02:55:42.980 to say yeah they want to cuddle she know her friend want to cuddle she just said she had two friends

02:55:47.540 one or one want to cuddle anybody else want to play this game by the way no i'm in a relationship

02:55:52.100 yeah she don't she don't want to play her relationship what about you i can't

02:55:57.780 you mention the co-worker if you want to they probably say yes too probably this is the reason

02:56:02.420 why men don't want women to have these friends lingering around because they're really not your

02:56:06.740 friend some of them are just waiting in the wings some of them i'm gonna take you ready to rebound

02:56:12.020 with not you but i'm saying women could be ready to rebound with so that's why men feel some type of way

02:56:17.140 because we know how we are i don't have any women female what if they trust you that's what i'm i

02:56:22.740 was going to trust you like your boyfriend like he trusts me no why would he trust you and you said

02:56:27.140 that you got two friends and one of them because i want to cuddle the one that i know would i specifically

02:56:32.260 i'll i'll only hang out with him like in groups it's about respect but why would you have him around

02:56:37.780 let's all be clear i'm single so you know but in general i had like my i had a neighbor and we

02:56:43.860 would hang out all the time like we would like cook dinner and you know i would help him with his

02:56:47.540 girl problems and my boyfriend at the time had no problem with it that's because that's because men

02:56:55.380 in today's day and age don't know that they're allowed to have preferences standards and specifically

02:57:00.980 boundaries and it's my view that if you're in a long-term committed monogamous relationship with

02:57:06.980 somebody frankly i don't think that you should really have male friends that's my view certainly certainly

02:57:13.300 for marriage and it sounds like you're someone who wants to get married yeah i don't think it would

02:57:17.460 be appropriate for you to be hanging out with like a male friend alone sure but i think you got to give

02:57:24.900 you have to give a little a little leeway for that separating process like the you start a relationship

02:57:31.060 and then like how quickly do you cut off contact with your male friends it's hard to say what's the

02:57:35.620 reason that that person's your friend which why are either one of those guys your friend uh well like

02:57:40.820 with the one i was dating the one my neighbor wait a minute you were dating that guy are you saying

02:57:46.900 that no no i had i had that situation i had a friend okay do you guys want to see the response

02:57:54.020 we'll come back we'll come back to that um wait guys just hide your phone screens hide your phone

02:58:00.500 screen go ahead this guy mind you this guy has been kind of like wait can you move the microphone this way

02:58:06.980 go ahead good he was like my therapist because i used to tell him what did he say what did he say

02:58:13.700 so i said hey you want to cuddle he said fuck i would but i'm not even home i'm out of town ma gotta

02:58:20.260 take a range check you back from your pod you're back from your podcast how was it

02:58:26.660 so if he was home he would do you want to cuddle yeah how long how long have you had this male friend

02:58:32.260 for over a year okay have you heard back from this guy okay and he's respectful too and he what

02:58:40.020 read back the first part shocked what is i don't know no i'm just thinking well can you read it back

02:58:47.380 one more time he said i said hey want to cuddle wink he said fuck riz laughing laughing face i would i

02:58:56.740 would but i'm not even home i'm out of town ma gotta take a range check you back from your

02:59:01.940 podcast how was it also also something that just occurred to me something that just occurred to me

02:59:08.340 when it comes to boyfriends being uncomfortable with your male friends

02:59:13.860 let's also introduce the friend zone into this because men typically are not friend zoning women in

02:59:20.420 the same way that women are friend zoning men so like a lot of women you just have dudes in your

02:59:26.260 pocket that would jump at the chance to be in a relationship with you those are the guys in your friend

02:59:31.060 zone those are guys in your orbit but no but you okay how often is it the case that the woman like

02:59:37.060 a guy will show a interest in a woman and that woman whether for whatever reason maybe he's not that

02:59:42.260 interesting she's not attracted to him friend zones him let's just be friends men don't really do that

02:59:48.980 to women like men aren't really friend zoning women it happens yeah but like typically it's pretty rare for

02:59:56.580 men to like have a lot of women in the friend zone but those women are attracted to him uh typically

03:00:02.820 it's the woman friend zoning the guy now i think if you're a guy and you have any self-respect you

03:00:07.220 don't allow yourself to it's just like okay goodbye nice to know you but not to say that you can't be

03:00:12.740 amicable and have like a pleasant doesn't have to okay whatever i'm getting away from the topic

03:00:18.980 women have men in the friend zone so your friends that you claim are your friends it could very well

03:00:24.820 be the case that at one point they communicated a romantic or sexual interest in you and you

03:00:30.100 friend zone them so that's another reason why men are wary of male friends because the it might have

03:00:36.580 not started as a friend he might have had a romantic or sexual interest in you from the get-go so that's

03:00:41.860 another reason um bringing it yeah yeah bringing it back to you you were i forgot what i'm talking

03:00:49.540 about you had the two guys two you were explaining the one of them i think would respond positively

03:00:54.100 although a it's like 11 15 his time and he wakes up early so i don't know if you okay let's assume it

03:01:02.660 was at the more but in the morning in the morning he's gonna be like yeah and i think he would be

03:01:08.660 excited but then i wouldn't want to text him right now let's see male friend i'll let me do

03:01:13.620 do a more pg version you want to cuddle is pretty cuddle is sacred cuddling is wait you don't believe

03:01:21.940 in premarital cuddling i wouldn't cuddle like on the first date really that leads to the other

03:01:27.780 i would wait yeah shit i would premarital cuddle all the time i would i would premarital cuddle

03:01:34.900 even if i was waiting no even first date first date cuddle you know what you know that's too much

03:01:40.180 that's too much it'd make it really difficult yeah i like to like go we go in a public place

03:01:45.460 you know what about the movie theater i don't i don't do movie dates not because of that because

03:01:50.020 i like to get to know the person i feel like you can't do that if you're at a movie

03:01:53.220 okay yeah go ahead and text him if anybody else wants to do text have you heard back yet no do

03:01:59.140 you want to text a different male friends i you got a couple you got one just okay if you can think

03:02:04.820 of anybody also this is the same reason um when it comes to men not wanting to take seriously for

03:02:12.260 a long-term relationship women who have a lot of male friends or who aren't willing to like kind of

03:02:16.260 phase out their male friends uh i think it's the same reason that you should not date women who go to

03:02:22.260 bars nightclubs and parties so and i think also for men you're looking at me crazy like look because

03:02:29.700 that male friend i think men too like when when men are in a relationship with women it's a red flag

03:02:35.300 that they have a bunch of female friends grid one motorsports donated 100 thanks buddy the delusion

03:02:41.300 factor is super high if as a female you think you have a male friend that is not just waiting for

03:02:46.500 the moment you give him the chance that it is delusional i have one who literally treats me like

03:02:53.700 if i'm his little brother yeah that is true look but have you tried it has anything sexual

03:03:00.660 if you tease it you'll see that i just did i sent it this is going to be embarrassing for me but i sent it

03:03:07.460 i'm going to see what he's going to say he'll probably be like no you're hella fat get out of here

03:03:12.020 that's the difference between a guy that's not that you think is not attractive to you but if it

03:03:17.300 came down to it he probably would do it and i'm telling you it's a red flag for women be cautious

03:03:22.740 if a guy has a bunch of female friends because you are that female friend that if he's waiting for

03:03:29.220 you to say something and maybe he'll be intrigued to do it right it's not that doesn't that then that

03:03:34.340 doesn't then you can then that doesn't go into like you can't have male friends you can

03:03:38.020 sure once you're in a relationship because it's your friend they're going to respect that they're

03:03:43.540 not going to be like with you 24 7 you know not now it's the boyfriend because you have a boy yeah

03:03:49.380 but they wait there are they going to encourage your relationship and stuff like that no they're

03:03:52.820 going to be waiting for when you break up with that dude who you're going to text your friend again

03:03:57.460 and it's that they kind of building a relationship with you and i guarantee you if you gave them a

03:04:02.660 time of day they'll they will more than likely take it if you tried to kiss one if you try to kiss one of

03:04:07.540 these friends they probably do it okay yeah but it's on the girl though we know it's a friend

03:04:14.340 well not this one another one did where he it's he said cholo can i can i i'm going to say wanna

03:04:19.940 hang when i get back just us is that fine what said it again hey wanna hang hang when i get back

03:04:26.340 just us is that okay is that no no no that wasn't from the guy that that's what she's gonna oh i thought

03:04:31.860 you said he said that to you i'm like he's telling you he don't want to hang around people

03:04:35.140 anymore but have you have you hung out with him no not not just him how about a winky face okay

03:04:41.940 fine yeah maybe like a kissy one that way because some guys my friend is probably watching the podcast

03:04:47.460 so he's not answering yeah also the guy has to be single obviously if you're going to ask this to

03:04:51.940 guy in one of your male friends in a relationship it's not gonna no he is on eastern time now he's

03:04:56.100 on eastern time we're gonna pop out i would send it to my crush oh really okay i have a question

03:05:04.420 also do you think guys like are okay with dating older women let we'll come to that in just a sec let

03:05:10.100 me just we we will come back to that though well because i would send it to my current crush but oh

03:05:15.620 you're going to wait but i don't want to see your friend yeah we're friends we like yeah well it's

03:05:21.220 new he's younger wait your current crush that that was not in the notes i'm sorry sorry that

03:05:26.580 was an agd moment i got sidetracked i'm not dating anyone no i just have a crush on a guy but i i'm

03:05:32.020 i don't but is he younger than you yeah so i don't how young he's like oh my gosh i'm gonna expose

03:05:37.860 myself just say it's fine he's 20 he's like early to mid 20s just say his age 23

03:05:45.060 nicolo the om donated 99 okay are you sure it's not 22 thank you i'm sure hey siri come on

03:05:55.140 what hey siri hey nicolo come on who's sir siri oh the phone oh i think maybe maybe who got a text

03:06:07.940 is that you i didn't know okay i got a text he said you know where i work just stop by

03:06:15.060 you know where i work just stop yeah who said that hmm he might this this might have whooshed

03:06:20.420 over his head that's why i'm like it could he might not no that's not a whoosh over the head

03:06:25.700 that's just a that's like a but why would he say stop by my work i don't know that's a weird vibe

03:06:32.340 the last message i think it's not clear i think it wasn't direct enough wait what he sent me a heart

03:06:37.380 like he was like best of luck tonight heart like a full heart so like i think he would

03:06:41.860 watching he's probably watching hi if you're watching text us and okay i want to know what

03:06:48.020 he said in the text oh did you get another text back message back uh-oh he said i'm just going to

03:06:54.900 sleep right now i gotta wake up at 2 30 a.m for work what made you all of a sudden want to cuddle i want

03:07:00.660 to know okay he's down yeah i'm sure he's down he's like you've been friends all this time what's

03:07:05.780 on your mind yeah what's on your mind sorry can you send this back send send back um what are you

03:07:12.420 doing friday night i feel like this is high school oh man you know what that poor guy you know what

03:07:16.820 you're going to do to him then he's going to get all like oh i already know how he is she know he's

03:07:21.540 gonna get because i know him i know him i know girls don't have friends come on so they're they will

03:07:27.940 obviously we'll take a chance with whoever that's what i'm saying exactly that's why you can't have

03:07:33.380 these friends lingering around because are you really are these guys could be interference because

03:07:38.020 you're letting okay but there's it's just like you know it's just like it's just like being a lesbian

03:07:42.580 i'm not going to be a lesbian to her her i'm going to be a lesbian to whoever uh one thing for you

03:07:52.260 really quick didn't you say that one of your male friends you use not used him but you he was the

03:07:57.780 guy that you went to to talk about like relationship problems no he or maybe i'm

03:08:06.820 my neighbor would talk we would talk he would talk to me about his girl problems oh he would

03:08:10.900 talk to you about his and i provide my sage wisdom and would you ever talk to him about your boy problems

03:08:17.460 yeah yeah with yeah i would oh yeah okay so then that's even worse because a guy who wants to sleep

03:08:25.780 with you if you're hold on guys if uh you are asking a guy who wants to sleep with you his counsel

03:08:34.500 on your current relationship he's probably going to be like yeah you should end that shit because he

03:08:39.540 wants a chance at you but go ahead what's uh you got the text coming through the guy i said what are

03:08:44.180 you doing friday night he said friday night come right this friday coming up i have my kids it's my

03:08:48.580 weekend okay you want to link up let me know we'll make some time or whatever you like to cuddle or

03:08:54.260 what vindicated i don't know why people think we're just making this stuff up i'm telling you i mean don't

03:09:01.540 don't ruin your relationship they want to fuck you guys they want to fuck you this though the one the one

03:09:06.580 that i said that we're we're literally just friends and he treats me like a little brother the

03:09:11.380 guy who did you just texted no that's another one i'm still waiting okay you're but is that this

03:09:16.500 the first guy or the second guy this is the second guy but two guys waiting for a response

03:09:20.580 would be the third we're two for two so far with two or hardly have you heard back nothing have you

03:09:25.860 heard back yeah he's watching hi okay wait wait which i think is really sweet no no after

03:09:33.620 show you i'll tell you what you really think whoa wait what's his name aldrin aldrin aldrin i didn't

03:09:40.740 name him aldrin it's a great name my mom aldrin it's a great name aldrin yeah yeah aldrin aldrin hold

03:09:48.580 on let me let me look him in his eyes aldrin please text her text her right now do you have feelings

03:09:55.700 for aldrin only as a friend really okay be honest aldrin honest aldrin okay look she's got she's in

03:10:05.940 a beautiful red dress what is happening to me right now she's in a beautiful red dress

03:10:13.540 would you do a little premarital cuddling with uh our friend over here what why are you looking at me

03:10:20.500 that one what julia unless he's julia sorry i'm terrible unless he's gay he's not no no he's not

03:10:27.700 well then he probably would is he single is he single is he single yeah and then he probably

03:10:31.300 what does he have to lose nothing i don't know so he probably was speaking of aldrin's um

03:10:38.660 this is a little light question then i'll bring it back to some of the heavier she says she knows

03:10:42.740 who my type is she said what he said she knows who my type is you're not his type maybe not what's

03:10:50.100 his type aldrin what's your type of course she doesn't know what your type is aldrin okay

03:10:56.660 question for the ladies is there is there ever a guy's name where he could be fantastic but his name

03:11:04.740 is a deal breaker like bartholomew or some what my little bardie probably because i'll find a way

03:11:12.180 to make his name better you know like if you're getting intimate i don't know if like a girl

03:11:17.860 no offense aldrin i don't know if a girl could be like oh aldrin like you know what i'm sorry i'm

03:11:23.620 sorry aldrin i'm not nicknaming i'm not trying to dunk on you virgil but but like if i was with a girl

03:11:30.420 like uh ursula i'm not like oh ursula like i'm not i couldn't i couldn't dirty talk unless unless

03:11:40.660 unless ursa got it like that i don't know i don't know if i could say it like that ursula's

03:11:45.460 not even the worst it could be like gertrude you can get used to it of course you say what

03:11:50.740 look if you i'm a little vocal you know when it comes to i'm vocal i'm vocal so like i'm not gonna

03:11:59.620 gertrude huh like huh

03:12:04.820 i can't be like dirty talking with gertrude you know what i'm saying so you just create a nickname for

03:12:08.980 it you wouldn't call it gertrude oh gertrude gg something else i don't know anyways okay

03:12:14.660 i'm married what did you say what did you say did you respond you can say ursulita what the

03:12:18.900 fuck yeah i'll text him what's that what's that song gasolina gasolina yeah it reminded you of it

03:12:32.180 he may have gotten mad about the name thing oh no wait wait i'm sorry short oh he said short uh

03:12:36.900 well short i'm five eight so okay i'm with him on the short thing hey okay that's a friend

03:12:42.580 you always talk about discrimination for women so look at this doesn't exist it's here's a man

03:12:49.540 he'd still have sex with you most definitely i think he's just we're christians so we'd never

03:12:53.780 admit it i think he's salty about you saying that he's just your friend

03:12:57.060 well yeah i agree secret life of aldrin secret life she says he's that's a friend

03:13:05.620 oh man now you're not as tight okay um so let's get back to the serious pressing questions here

03:13:12.420 uh aileen i lean i'm sorry yeah it's okay um let us know keep us posted when you hear back from him

03:13:19.540 okay uh was i think already just to wrap up on the friend thing i think it's the same thing like you

03:13:25.300 should not date women who go to bars clubs parties etc oh okay we have been to the offender

03:13:29.780 donated thank you man appreciate it dirty talk with a dude named guy would be very weird

03:13:35.540 just saying dirty talk i have a dude named guy yeah like his name it's guy guy i'm so i'm so i knew a

03:13:45.620 guy named guy in high school that's hey guy what's up guy i love you guy yeah it sounds weird my

03:13:52.260 friend's name is guy and it's just weird to call him guy guy i'm trying to think of some like weird

03:13:57.780 guy names um cornelius could be kind of weird oh yeah that's cornelius herbert herbert herbert

03:14:07.700 can you think of him my brother we used to we called him baby till he was like

03:14:13.380 um old enough to realize that his friends calling him baby sounded weird

03:14:17.140 yeah and then they got rappers named baby little baby oh yeah that's true

03:14:22.100 wrong here that's the easy fix though for bad names you just call him baby or just the first

03:14:28.020 letter of their name sure okay that's fair all right uh let's see going out with your boyfriend

03:14:35.300 should it be 50 50 should man be the provider 100 that was your question yeah is that should we open

03:14:42.100 that we could open that up to the panel i guess uh so going out with your boyfriend should it be 50 50

03:14:48.340 or should man be the provider 100 and we'll go around the table go ahead i think if he invites he

03:14:54.260 pays if i invite i pay provider 100 100 even because you said first date the guy should pay but then

03:15:02.500 afterwards you're a bit more open to i mean it okay oh you're walking the back okay she's walking the

03:15:08.340 back folks she's looking at the bank account okay this is how i feel like if i really really like him

03:15:17.060 then yeah i got him but what i don't like is if a guy takes me out right and then he and then he does

03:15:24.100 this hey next time you got me that oh yeah that i don't like that you're cutting no i got a guy that i

03:15:30.420 don't like he we literally went for chipotle and wait say that again how do you say it

03:15:38.900 chipotle chipotle oh i'm just i don't know chipotle okay i don't know you put a little spice in it yeah

03:15:45.540 i know um so we went and then while he was paying he looked at me and he's like you got the next one

03:15:54.580 right and i'm like there's not gonna be a next one yeah like sorry but yeah so you said you want

03:16:01.300 to provide her 100 yeah okay and then for you it's if he's really hot you'll be a sugar mama no i'm not

03:16:09.460 being no sugar mama okay but if i if it's like later on down the road and i do it on my own because i want

03:16:15.620 to do it how far well how far later on down the road later like until i feel like it if i really

03:16:21.940 like earlier you said first date then it can be yeah but you know i shouldn't have said that okay

03:16:28.180 so how far three months into the relationship then you'll start paying maybe it depends oh well okay

03:16:34.820 okay wait so how far in i don't know maybe three or four months if he if he doesn't if he doesn't ask me

03:16:41.060 if he doesn't ask me i will do it on my own like when i feel like it but okay so for the first three

03:16:46.180 or four months while you're getting to know a guy you want him all the dates that you go on

03:16:51.940 he you want him to pay i'm not saying i'm not saying hey that there's that's wrong he should

03:16:56.740 oh okay well that's a bit different asking me to go out he should pay for it but that's a bit

03:17:00.740 different that's a bit different than what you said before but that that again reinforces the

03:17:06.100 conversation that we were having before about how you said well you have your shit together you're a

03:17:10.500 successful woman you make good money you want a guy for the first three to four months of the

03:17:15.540 relationship to pay for everything this is another again this is why men frankly don't give a

03:17:20.980 about the money it's not really like like three or four months like okay you just said it could be

03:17:26.180 it could be in a month or so right like let's like realistically like let's how many dates is that five

03:17:31.540 ten yeah like five maybe you know and then i could be like so why should men care about your success and

03:17:37.140 money when even despite your success and money you're not you want the guy to pay for everything

03:17:44.740 no that's not what i'm saying i guess no but it depends on the financial conversation a little

03:17:50.340 bit but but i'm just trying to articulate a lot of women are like oh my career that's what i bring

03:17:55.860 to the table my money my success what guy's going to want to be with the girl who's not doing anything

03:17:59.700 with herself that's doesn't have nothing but it doesn't make you more attractive obviously we don't

03:18:04.340 want like a woman who's destitute who's indigent who who's like really struggling financially who has a ton

03:18:10.900 of debt obviously it's preferable that she not be like financially illiterate and just irresponsible

03:18:16.900 with money however it doesn't make you more attractive in the same way that a woman might

03:18:23.460 be attracted to a guy who has like some degree of wealth ask you something sure okay would you feel

03:18:31.060 would it make you feel less of a man if the girl made a lot more than you with that would you have a

03:18:35.540 problem with that would you have a problem if you're with somebody bar and this girl was like

03:18:39.700 she had it up there right but you really liked her okay sure but would it make you feel less of a man

03:18:44.980 if she's the one that had all the money me personally no like would you it wouldn't make me feel

03:18:49.940 like less of a man but i would be aware of okay she's very successful typically if you're very successful

03:18:57.700 you need to you need to cultivate certain personality traits that are um you're probably going to be a

03:19:04.740 much more assertive you might be a bit more in your masculine um listen business is cutthroat

03:19:10.420 so you're going to probably as a woman you're going to probably start leaning a bit more into your

03:19:14.580 masculine and it's not really going to be an issue with me but it may very well be an issue with her

03:19:19.380 me personally look some guys 100 some guys might be intimidated they might have an issue with it

03:19:24.980 but me personally if a girl made more money than me i wouldn't care about the money component i might care

03:19:30.740 about what other underlying things are related to the fact that she makes that much money and is she

03:19:37.300 is she gonna feel like the same thing with height i would say most men would be willing to date women

03:19:45.140 that are taller than them like i feel like most men it's not men might have a preference for a woman

03:19:52.340 a slight preference for women who are short i don't even know i mean look some men like petite women but

03:19:57.540 i think if you ask most men it's not a deal breaker if the girl is tall or taller than them

03:20:03.460 however for most women it's certainly a deal breaker if the guy is shorter than them like

03:20:07.700 that's a for most women that's an issue yeah so in that same way it's not so much that like the guys

03:20:14.580 will think oh maybe they'll avoid a tall woman because they know that the tall women would have an issue

03:20:21.700 dating dating them because they're shorter i think that's where it comes from it's not inherently

03:20:27.380 that men have an issue with dating taller women or or dating women who make more money than them

03:20:34.100 me personally i it wouldn't bother me if the girl makes more money than the guy uh will you want her

03:20:40.580 to pay for everything the funny thing is i feel like most women even if they make more money than the

03:20:46.260 dude they still want the guy to pay for things right sure so like i remember i this was this was like

03:20:52.660 10 years ago or something uh before like i you know before i was successful i was on the dating

03:20:59.460 app i matched with this woman who's an attorney and she's probably litigation attorney who's probably

03:21:04.740 making 200 000 300 000 a year or something and uh in her profile she said well uh you know i'm

03:21:11.700 successful but i still want the guy to i still want to be treated like a lady and for you to pay for the

03:21:17.140 first day i'm like you make six figures like i don't know to me it's i mean look that's that's fine

03:21:24.020 but so that that's the whole thing is like why don't men care about your career because we don't

03:21:31.540 reap a benefit any financial benefit from your wealth or your career most women are not prepared

03:21:37.220 to provide in the same way that men are prepared to provide can i say something about that sure um

03:21:42.580 um i think sometimes specific careers can translate to raising kids and if you're good at certain

03:21:51.540 jobs you'd be good at that so i think there's like a little bit of importance to that certain careers

03:21:59.940 translate to like you mean like someone who's daycare yeah like a teacher would make a good mom right

03:22:05.540 teachers honestly though the thing is i actually disagree i think they might make a good mom but i think

03:22:10.500 they make terrible lives because uh well because they are in a authority i don't know if this is

03:22:21.460 i dated a teacher i dated a teacher before she was absolutely amazing she was organized she was

03:22:25.460 really good with children and i dated it when my son was really young she was really good with him

03:22:29.860 she didn't have to be at work year round you know in the summertime she's more flexible be at home but

03:22:34.660 she was she was she was great i i don't think her being a teacher was a net negative i think it was

03:22:38.820 really great that she was a teacher it added value and i think you have to judge everybody on an

03:22:44.020 individual level because certainly there could be anybody in any sort of career that could be a

03:22:49.380 perfect partner and then like so but if we're speaking in generalities um but i feel like we're

03:22:56.740 getting a little bit away from the point here and the point was more related to finances men don't

03:23:03.220 necessarily care if a woman's successful but i think it is important to pay attention to what

03:23:08.020 the woman's doing right like because if her her life is a mess then then she's just gonna continue

03:23:14.420 that i will say i have dated women that are teachers and i don't have a ton of experience

03:23:22.820 but i did date a woman who was a teacher and she was very

03:23:26.740 the way that she probably runs the classroom seeped into her personality a little bit and as

03:23:35.300 a teacher you are you're an authority figure you're kind of calling the shots and so

03:23:42.580 if i recall correctly she was kind of like

03:23:47.700 a caretaker she was like talking to me in the same way that she would talk to a

03:23:51.940 a kid i was like that's nice she's a bit bossy and i was like no okay all right

03:24:01.700 i've heard consultants make great wives and mothers

03:24:06.900 are you a consultant i am okay i look um so i don't know where i was going with it

03:24:12.980 um okay we'll move on from that let's see uh

03:24:23.140 men are used to not wait nowadays men are used to not paying for every paying not used wait men

03:24:30.020 are used to not pay everything for the girl because us girls permitted that that's what you said yeah

03:24:36.180 sorry if it wasn't no it's good wording it's fine i mean if you want to i think as a guy if you want to

03:24:44.420 min max have the most success when it comes to dating you should probably pay for first dates but

03:24:50.100 let me let me add this if you're a guy you cannot pay you shouldn't be dating

03:24:54.260 yep one thing about men and i tell young men that work with me i tell them they should wait until

03:25:00.100 they're financially stable before they ever start dating if your mama's still paying your phone bill

03:25:04.340 you shouldn't be dating women at all if you're still living with your mama you shouldn't be dating

03:25:08.180 women at all you should be focused on building your career building yourself as a man building

03:25:13.060 your credit when you get yourself to the point where you're sustainable you're in your calling

03:25:17.700 then i think that's when you should start dating women because what happens is young men want to

03:25:22.180 date a woman while she while he's down here and then he start to grow on the ladder and now he got

03:25:26.900 to drag this woman up with him and now he's miserable i think men should get themselves to

03:25:31.060 a point where they're in their calling they're financially stable and they can date

03:25:34.020 women in the range that they want to instead of settling and then trying to upgrade later

03:25:39.380 i i really do think it's invaluable to do that a man should always pay that's that's how i feel

03:25:45.540 and even if the woman got more money my wife i think she was making more money than me when we

03:25:48.820 first met just a little bit maybe a maybe 10 000 more a year i think it's something of that nature

03:25:53.860 sure but it my goal was to impress her my goal was to show her that i'm a consistent man i'm a

03:26:02.180 reliable man i'm financially stable and so it wasn't a what can you do for me it was like let me

03:26:07.700 show you that this is what you get being with a man like me and obviously i won that so yeah and oh

03:26:13.700 go ahead brian i'll just uh address that really quick like i would want to pay and be that guy for the

03:26:24.340 the right girl yeah my issue is that the current dating climate the current lance dating landscape

03:26:32.420 is and both men and women move in very shady ways when it comes to dating is as a guy

03:26:44.580 okay you got a couple things right you have women who are promiscuous who or have a promiscuous pass who

03:26:49.940 have high body counts who did not hold themselves to a traditional standard currently or in their

03:26:55.060 past in that situation i don't feel i feel like almost taken advantage of or like i'm a sucker i'm

03:27:01.620 a mark for adhering to my traditional gender roles with a woman who is clearly not traditional

03:27:08.820 or did not have a traditional past as certainly look can somebody can people have made mistakes in the

03:27:15.060 past can they redeem themselves sure but certainly a woman who's currently not traditional i have

03:27:21.460 very i have like this gut reaction like i'm a sucker if i pay for this girl and she's like dating other

03:27:28.180 men she's um sleeping with other men like that's the way a lot of people move how long have you been

03:27:34.260 married i mean four years okay i mean you've been you were in the dating marketplace i mean you know how

03:27:38.500 people move like people are dating and sleeping with multiple people at the same time maybe if you're

03:27:42.820 like trying to narrow it down to you know christian women not so although you know well we had a girl

03:27:50.580 on uh two panels ago uh she said that she went she was she made it a goal to go on 50 dates with 50 men

03:27:59.860 in 50 days i'll come back to them just a second

03:28:03.620 men should date when they have reliable finances but paying for dinner on dates or even drinks with

03:28:09.620 friends is a gesture i believe in there's just a lot of women who overestimate themselves and

03:28:15.380 misunderstand what the gesture means yo mr meatball very good to see you the chat man thank you very

03:28:20.900 much appreciate it so i just don't want to feel like a sucker basically where oh and the girl who was

03:28:26.340 on the panel two shows ago she said in a uh she went on a date with a new guy every single day and if i was

03:28:32.580 date number 15 you just went on 14 dates she said she did two dates in a in one day look we're not

03:28:39.860 we just met we we're not exclusive exclusive obviously but i would feel like man like she's

03:28:48.100 not really respecting my time she's not really respecting that i'm making this traditional gender

03:28:53.620 role gesture of paying for the first date by after our date she's gonna go on another date and she's got

03:29:01.220 four dates lined up and then that's how that's like uh granted she said this on the show i don't

03:29:08.420 think i don't think most women are going on a new date every single day of the week but i've definitely

03:29:13.140 had experiences i've gone on dates with a girl and i'll ask them so how's the dating life and they're

03:29:17.300 like yeah i just went on like four dates this past week and i'm like well okay see like it to me

03:29:23.060 and the other thing the big thing the the worst thing the worst thing is if i go on a date with a

03:29:28.580 girl and i pay for her food and then she's sleeping with another guy that i you know i might not be

03:29:35.540 aware of because we just met right she takes the food that i paid for she gets a to-go bag brings it

03:29:42.740 over to the guy's house who she's sleeping with who by the way never had to pay who never took her out

03:29:48.180 he's just hot dude and then she gives him the food that i paid for as my romantic traditional

03:29:55.700 gender role well let me let me just say this let me no no no it's that was a hypothetical this is too

03:30:00.660 specific right hypothetical i don't think it's happened to me but it's for sure

03:30:05.780 no for sure this is like okay but you had that thought it's not even a thought there are for

03:30:16.180 sure women who go out with dates on men to get a free experience to get a free meal and then while

03:30:22.820 simultaneously having a guy that they're fucking and they will meet up with the guy after they go on

03:30:29.300 a date this happens all the fucking time girls have dudes in their phone uber dinner like girls

03:30:39.780 will go on a date with a guy and then after they'll give you the ass out hug and then they'll go over to

03:30:45.540 the guy's house who they're fucking who never paid for a date who never took them out he's just the hot

03:30:51.300 like the hot dude and to me that's just i don't know yeah it happens but what i would tell you if you

03:30:58.420 were you know if i was giving some advice you're my father if i was your brother right i got too many

03:31:06.340 kids okay i'm sorry okay no but what i would say is that it's you know as a man you have to work

03:31:13.700 through things before you're ready to date because it seems like you have a lot of things that have

03:31:19.300 happened even the things you've read obviously you do a show you see a lot of women that are just

03:31:23.220 complete bums and that really affects the way you perceive it and i'd say you're gonna

03:31:28.100 keep running into real negative situations if that's what your mindset is and i would say deal

03:31:33.380 with those things within and then you'll be ready to actually date when you're at the point where

03:31:40.660 you don't care you're not thinking about what she's gonna do with this money you're at the point where

03:31:46.100 you're meeting quality women that are that are primed and ready to really be in a relationship mature

03:31:51.700 women and you take them on the dates you have mature conversations i think that's where you

03:31:56.260 you know you gotta meet like people do apps and stuff and it's okay to do apps people do it i think

03:32:02.660 you will meet the person that's meant for you doing the things that you enjoy wait i have a question

03:32:07.140 where where do you live currently are you in arizona you're in arizona okay california is is a lost

03:32:14.180 cause it's a failed society it's a failed society what are you saying i live in california just look

03:32:23.220 the i would say i agree with you the dating meta but but where are you dating what what are the

03:32:27.940 ages and where are you dating these women here in santa barbara right so that's probably the problem

03:32:32.820 you you probably want to you probably want to because there's a bunch of young girls still

03:32:37.700 trying to figure yourself out i drove when we were i was driving here oh yeah it's girls

03:32:42.900 i can't believe how many women they had the whole booty out i mean the women had no clothes on

03:32:47.300 it's true and so these women are really trying to figure one party school like so right so you in the

03:32:51.940 wrong area your tender searches here you swiping on these women they all crazy the girl i was telling

03:32:57.300 you who uh i i met her on a dating app i met her on hinge this was a i don't know a couple years ago

03:33:02.180 i think hens is weird i mean i think these dating websites are weird but but so this girl she was

03:33:07.300 29 she had a high-paying job at a hospital six figures um i'm she was average looking unremarkable

03:33:16.340 in every regard she told me she had just downloaded the app uh i was the fourth guy she went on a date

03:33:22.420 with within a week of having downloaded the app she'd already been on three dates she told me she had

03:33:26.500 two dates scheduled for the weekend and it's like this isn't this was like you look at her okay she

03:33:32.980 works in the hospital she's got a respectable respectable career she seemed otherwise well

03:33:38.180 put together this is just like how people even professional people are moving it's not just college

03:33:44.580 kids um that are moving in this way even adult women around like mid-20s late 20s early 30s

03:33:53.300 they're seeing multiple people at the same time and i guess my qualm when it comes to

03:33:58.500 paying for the first date is i don't want to pay for on the first date for a girl who's

03:34:02.260 another guy but did you pay i think that i think that no that's why faith is that's why i think faith

03:34:07.540 is really important yeah because it gives you a center and if you have faith in god and you're living

03:34:13.700 the life that you believe is right according to what the bible has said sure then you can go out

03:34:18.740 and date people that are kind of similar to you because when you're just floating in the wind and

03:34:22.260 you're dating people that that girl probably have no values that align with you other than the fact

03:34:27.140 that she has a good paying job and she seems like she could add a little bit of value but y'all don't

03:34:32.020 share the same values and then you got to ask yourself the question what are your values are your values

03:34:37.060 that you do care about a person that's going to save themselves your value that you do care about a

03:34:41.700 woman who has morals a woman who views herself and is stable and not dealing with a bunch of trauma

03:34:47.220 if that's your standard then when you are talking to these women you can weed them out

03:34:51.540 or you're going to continue to run into these feminists that want to be where the pants in

03:34:56.100 the family and all that really quick points and i need to move things on yeah i had a question about

03:35:00.500 being this finances 100 provider um did your um um lady uh wife actually herself um do you like some

03:35:10.340 sacrifice like she herself stopped talking to her male friends did she herself like delete on her

03:35:16.500 instagram or another instagram like that uh i i yeah that was something else yeah she like stuff

03:35:22.020 that some men um don't like sometimes right my wife is mature enough and then she was 36 when we met

03:35:28.820 she's mature enough that she do understand that like it will be a conflict she can identify that these

03:35:34.180 men that are her friends are not her friends not conducive for a real relationship because she had been

03:35:38.900 through terrible relationships and she wanted something different and so she made though i didn't have

03:35:43.860 to ask her to do that you know my wife ain't putting a booty all on social media so she don't

03:35:47.380 she don't have to scrub her instagram um my wife made an incredible amount of sacrifice she left her

03:35:52.580 job my wife had a really good paying job making about eighty thousand a year yeah and when we got together

03:35:58.260 she left her job in tears yeah but she was willing to make that sacrifice and now she's you know now

03:36:04.900 she she don't regret that was actually an important really that if you asked her if she did it on her

03:36:09.860 own and that's a really strong conviction 100 but she was ready though she was a mature woman and she

03:36:14.180 was ready she wasn't in her 20s still trying to figure her life out if you talk to my wife she'll

03:36:18.020 say when i was in my 20s i was crazy she had to go to therapy and different things like that and she's

03:36:22.980 to the point where she was ready and i was ready and therefore i don't have to ask this childish stuff

03:36:27.620 like how many people you slept with or can you delete your social media do you need you need to stop

03:36:31.940 talking to these dudes she already understand the game and so it worked really well for us thank you

03:36:37.620 we have a couple chats here we need to get to just another guy hey thank you man appreciate it brian

03:36:42.660 you often talk about your objection to cosmetic surgery hashtag blm does that include bariatric

03:36:48.180 surgery for example someone who is morbidly obese and gets a gastric sleeve surgery to help them lose

03:36:53.940 weight would love to hear from the panel as well um do i object to bariatric surgery i mean i'm not

03:37:04.500 i don't know enough about about that to really have uh i mean my knee-jerk response would be

03:37:19.300 you should try to lose weight legit instead of resorting to a surgery which is kind of like a uh

03:37:26.900 what's it called a uh no there's another word like a shortcut thank you uh but perhaps for some people

03:37:35.460 like it might be necessary i don't know if if there's a medical indication for for having it

03:37:41.620 done maybe they i don't know uh okay so uh would love to hear from the panel yes i'm against cosmetic

03:37:50.820 surgery um when you say cosmetic surgery you mean breast implants uh botox lip filler breast implants

03:37:57.860 bbl lipo no botox no botox which is not cosmetic i don't think that's not a surgery well it's cosmetic

03:38:05.860 but it's not a surgery well i'm against that too botox i'm against yeah i i think i'd very much like to

03:38:12.820 see women feeling happy with just how they are without the need for intervention what about makeup

03:38:21.700 against makeup actually i'm against makeup are you impartial or are you against eyeliner are you

03:38:27.300 are you are you a boss of me and she wore to make you say who you think is wearing too much

03:38:30.820 makeup do you think every one of us girls well okay let me panel for to address your thing brandon

03:38:35.620 i am i'm trying to get into the fight i am an anti-makeup terrorist

03:38:43.300 what is too much makeup well okay hold on there's a difference i've you've been invited to a video

03:38:50.980 live recording so for an event like this i it's it makes sense that women are going to doll up a little

03:38:58.500 bit so now if you guys were to wear the degree of makeup you're wearing like to meet me for a first

03:39:05.380 date there are yeah there are women at the state like honestly anything more than maybe a little

03:39:10.500 eyeliner to me is like a letdown not gonna lie but i'll tell a girl i'll be like yo you don't have

03:39:16.180 to wear makeup what's your first date what do you mean my that's what happened with you and emily

03:39:22.020 emily who she was on the podcast last week you asked her on a date oh we just oh my god what are you

03:39:26.900 talking about what are you talking about did you guys actually go on a date you're not supposed to

03:39:31.620 watch the full podcast don't worry about it but uh don't worry about it but uh what's my type yes

03:39:39.860 okay here let me pull up my list because i have i've had to write it down because it's getting more

03:39:43.940 really oh that's cute okay um but no okay here um looks let's talk looks um

03:39:50.260 um i have a slight preference for petite fun size short women you and aldrin aldrin's a based um

03:40:01.540 it's definitely funny funny telling women who are like five two that they're too tall for me

03:40:06.340 like a woman that's too tall um oh because i'm like short short like 411 is where it's a borderline mid

03:40:13.780 dwarf borderline dwarf little person no no are you serious are you playing i'm 100 serious i like

03:40:19.540 shorter women but that's really short but here's the thing like it's not a deal breaker for me like

03:40:25.140 i have no i'll date a woman who's taller than me i have a slight preference for short women um never

03:40:31.060 going to be a deal breaker uh whereas i think for most women height is it will be a deal breaker for

03:40:37.220 95 percent of women um especially for tall women yeah yeah well when i say height is a deal breaker for

03:40:43.780 95 percent women i'm saying that 95 of women would not date a guy who's shorter than them but i'd say

03:40:50.180 a much higher proportion of men would date a woman who's taller than them i would love to know how

03:40:55.140 that would you guys not date a guy based on height is that a deal breaker for you yes i'm saying at what

03:41:01.700 height on the table how crazy yeah like minimum height bare minimum height for you how tall and how

03:41:07.940 tall you i'm 5 7 without heels okay and bare minimum height for a guy i want to say 5 10 because

03:41:17.140 even 5 9 i but that's a deal breaker you if it do if you if the guy had a bunch of great qualities

03:41:22.340 but he was an inch shorter you would say no an inch shorter than 5 7 yeah geez that's a really hard

03:41:29.700 one it's a deal breaker i'm 5 5 and i've dated guys like 5 6 5 7 but i don't think come on 5

03:41:37.620 shorter but whenever i put my high heels because i wear it they're shorter and i don't care you

03:41:42.740 know okay what about you i want them to be like 5 9 how tall are you 5 2 okay i'm 5 9 so they have to

03:41:51.140 be 5 9 at least 5 9 got it my longest relationship was with someone that was like three or four inches

03:41:57.620 shorter than me three or four inches so you don't care i mean you know it's not a deal it's not a deal

03:42:04.420 breaker is this a two-year relationship three did i say three was this the guy who met your parents

03:42:09.860 and then no no no he was 5 10 yeah okay what about you um 5 7 but i'll do 5 6 yeah i'm six feet tall

03:42:18.100 so six feet six feet wow okay i'm in eye contact i think that's i like eye contact you are tall so uh

03:42:26.020 yeah but uh yeah height for me whatever doesn't matter okay strong preference no plastic surgeries we're

03:42:31.300 talking no fake tits no fake lips no bbl no lipo um and i really mean this when i say it i don't know

03:42:38.340 maybe i'm gonna sound like a simp but i i think women are beautiful as they are without needing to

03:42:43.700 undergo dangerous expensive and frankly unnecessary cosmetic surgery which i honestly think makes women

03:42:50.900 look worse no offense like i would for example and it's not like how do i explain this i would

03:42:58.500 rather a woman who had small boobs or who was totally flat over big giant fake tits i'd prefer a little

03:43:06.580 belly over a lipo belly i prefer small ass over bbl i'd prefer a small upper lip over uh lip fillers um

03:43:14.820 um so how however the woman was before i would prefer her that way so you would prefer loose skin

03:43:23.620 over a tummy tuck like loose skin from what like a pregnancy yeah sometimes i don't really date single

03:43:30.580 moms though so it's sometimes it's not even from having a baby it can be from losing weight and you

03:43:36.260 have a lot of excess skin in your stomach you prefer that over a tummy tuck um would i prefer that over

03:43:43.060 a tummy tuck i mean would it be before or after meaning you date her she get it versus if she

03:43:48.900 already had most women don't have like but there is like the mayor there's a lot of them a lot i mostly

03:43:59.060 think i've dated women who have probably been not morbidly obese at some point in their life

03:44:06.180 you have to note skinny there as well what do you mean in the notes that you have probably

03:44:10.740 so you only like skinny skinny girls no i mean well i mean okay so but we're going off a topic

03:44:16.020 now i would say preference i would say i like i could get i'd date a thick girl i like thick women

03:44:25.780 sure i like skinny women i like thick women but like uh you're saying

03:44:29.940 you met her in order for women to have like loose skin she at one point have had to have

03:44:38.580 she she had to have lost a lot of weight at some point correct so yeah and i think that's

03:44:45.620 natural i think the little loose skin yeah like you meet her and she's skinny and she's pretty and

03:44:51.380 everything and then she takes her clothes up you prefer that do you prefer that over a tummy tuck

03:44:57.460 yeah or she honestly i've never encountered a woman who was thin but she used to be morbidly obese

03:45:05.460 so this is like a hypothetical scenario um i it's hard to say um

03:45:11.300 it's hard to say what about race oh what race like oh race yeah uh i would say any race although

03:45:20.500 it's probably i admittedly slight preference for asian women or white women but i'll date a latina

03:45:26.820 i'll date a black woman like i to me it's it's not a deal breaker but yeah slight preference asian

03:45:32.020 women white women cool sorry ladies um okay uh let's see what uh what else um okay so none of us

03:45:41.140 i said i would date i would date a latina woman i just don't make up he's not just like you guys

03:45:51.540 i don't think latina women like me though i don't think latina i'm too white you know i'm like a lot

03:45:56.900 of my boyfriend is white so yeah but i'm not like i'm not a cool white guy i'm like a nerdy white guy

03:46:04.900 you know actually you look like my brother he's blonde with blue eyes

03:46:09.220 and if you go to mexico you will get a lot yeah if i go to mexico and there's a lot of shorty girls

03:46:16.660 there's a lot of short girls yeah yeah and skinny with eyeliner no yeah i barely wear any makeup look

03:46:26.980 curvy ain't the worst i'm like i a couple shows ago i said i like chubby asian women huh

03:46:31.380 mm-hmm he's a huh listen i'm flexible okay with are you what do you mean all the notes

03:46:42.660 super flexible super flexible i'm flexible yeah i'm flexible but i just think sometimes look i'm gonna

03:46:50.020 be honest when it okay in the bedroom look a big fat ass it's great to look at but for speed it ain't

03:46:58.100 always it ain't always like you know like okay here's the thing right here's the thing right for

03:47:05.140 speed like for like like a girl with a big fat ass that's great to look at right it's wonderful

03:47:12.100 giant fucking titties whatever whatever but oh god no go ahead like if a woman has bigger legs than me

03:47:21.700 cool right right but it makes the sex a little harder you know what i'm saying that's true

03:47:29.300 like if she's got big strong legs legs like a racehorse flexible huh i'm just saying okay here's the

03:47:38.420 thing right here's the here's here's one one of the benefits of like a more petite woman let's say

03:47:44.740 oh my god carry them around do you guys mind you can throw them you can throw them up in the air

03:47:48.980 and then catch them no here's the thing yeah close your ears okay no barely girl okay

03:47:56.260 thick women physically very attractive but when it comes to speed when it comes to speed right

03:48:04.340 okay i don't we get i don't okay for example what you mean if if look i'm not if a girl has

03:48:12.740 like really big legs right and she's on top yeah and i'm trying to like she's on top right let's say

03:48:17.780 i want to rubber clip while she's on top i can't like i can't reach that's how you do it from the

03:48:23.460 bottom i can't huh no you can't do that you get away that's how you do it from the bottom if she's on

03:48:29.700 top like you can't that yes you can how are you doing it you won't go all the way then no but see

03:48:34.580 here's the thing on top backwards or no no like she's on top but here's the thing i don't like

03:48:38.740 if a girl's on top right i'm still a christian i'm still a christian if a girl's on top i don't

03:48:44.340 this is a brian i i don't like oh god okay i don't like it if the girl is like if this i don't like

03:48:51.460 this if she's like straight up like if a girl's on top i want her chest to chest and i'm okay i'm

03:48:58.180 like pulling her hair and i'm whispering in her ear and shit like i don't want

03:49:02.100 oh we're so loud i don't want this i want this huh so where's the difficult part and you can't

03:49:08.100 if if she's like that you can't really go like you can't go you're saying going underneath she's

03:49:14.180 in front you yes you can you have to you have to go around the leg you have to go around the leg

03:49:18.500 if you want access to the clit around the leg she's chest to chest chest to chest

03:49:23.460 you can definitely put your hand down like this am i really going to like uh what

03:49:42.260 the point i'm trying to make is if she's got thick thighs beautiful but i can't get my hand

03:49:48.740 around but that's anisha of her not yours you know like she's not gonna that's why you're like

03:49:53.540 little that's why he doesn't like that type okay all of that stuff gonna go out the window when

03:49:59.140 you fall in love yeah yes that i guess i'm just i'm just speaking on uh not all i'm not saying

03:50:08.420 it's not like oh i don't want to have sex with a girl because it's harder for me to

03:50:12.580 for me too it does it does present some challenges you're like ec6 well it would

03:50:20.820 i mean it would be like hold on it would be like me saying i can't date a guy with

03:50:27.380 certain inches because he can't hit it from the back

03:50:31.860 i could still date a guy with shorter inches if he knows how to work it but sometimes sometimes

03:50:39.060 also that's the thing i want to say something i'm trying to i'm trying to be a good guy

03:50:44.180 you know i'm just saying this is her adults know this but it's different when you if you

03:50:49.460 if you got a big big woman and you ain't got it like that it's the big it's a bigger challenge for

03:50:55.940 you everybody should i'm talking about big though i'm talking about big thick

03:51:01.540 i'm not talking about somebody from this like like when i'm talking about somebody is skinny like

03:51:05.460 this skinny like this i'm talking about a big woman versus a skinny one yeah there is but i mean

03:51:12.580 they make it happen with these with big man too a big girl and a big man they can make it happen

03:51:17.140 all right oh okay so talking my type right um large labia very important if she doesn't have

03:51:25.140 what is that is that is that which like she's gotta have a large labia

03:51:30.260 god have okay i'm just kind of she doesn't have i'm just kidding no are you kidding or no i have

03:51:37.540 i will say agree with you right now big labia matter blm um that's my non-profit organization

03:51:44.580 big labia matter blm um look if women are allowed to have penis size preferences i'm allowed to have

03:51:51.380 labia preference yeah look it's just but it's a sad state of affairs that women are shamed if they

03:52:01.620 have a large labia you know you hear terms getting thrown around wizard sleeve beef curtains arby's

03:52:09.540 it's not fair i don't like it women should not be shamed for the way they were born in the same way

03:52:14.180 that men if they're not packing they shouldn't be shamed either we should have compassion like an

03:52:19.860 audi is equivalent to a micropenis that's not what i'm saying i'm just saying people shouldn't be

03:52:24.580 shamed for their the way they were born and their genitalia so for what the the way a woman might be

03:52:30.100 shamed for genitalia like it's probably going to be either uh it's probably going to be related to

03:52:35.940 her having an audi so to speak yeah because that would be purely aesthetic and the micropenis has a

03:52:40.500 functional element as well as no but i'm just is this a deal breaker for you what do you mean is

03:52:44.980 that a deal breaker no okay i'll date a woman with an any but my dms are an audi

03:52:58.020 i'm trying to understand is this list something that you actively evaluate when you're dating a

03:53:04.260 girl meaning that you go on a date with a girl and you're like man i hope that these things are

03:53:08.020 right yeah within the first five minutes of conversation i'm asking what her pussy looks

03:53:11.940 like no i'm kidding no i'm not saying you asked her i'm saying are you i'm saying are you thinking

03:53:16.580 about it maybe that you like i really like her but if if if it gets to that point and just don't

03:53:23.300 look like i want it i'm breaking up with her no no no it's not for me okay it's not a deal breaker

03:53:28.020 because like pussies bomb either way am i being vulgar i don't know like it's i'm sorry

03:53:34.500 okay yeah it's like but do i have in the same way with like the height thing do i have a slight

03:53:43.700 preference for it yes i do i'm with you on that because i just went to a swingers club

03:53:52.340 huh and yeah swingers club what's that got to do with well because i was looking for you like you

03:54:01.060 like a meaty you like women right how do you get invited to those you were looking for a micro

03:54:05.700 penis yes huh wait wait tell me this bodybuilder okay okay what is going on here okay here uh we've

03:54:18.500 kind of derailed i'll just wrap up really quick on my and then let's talk personality real quick

03:54:22.740 i like introverted women typically a bit more quiet calm soft-spoken maybe a little bit shy a little bit

03:54:28.660 nerdy's cool modesty is huge um like i don't like women with big egos who are super vain divas

03:54:35.620 that type of shit uh brings me peace doesn't quarrel doesn't party doesn't drink doesn't do drugs

03:54:40.500 doesn't go to bars or clubs low body count that's pretty much it when you say don't drink you mean

03:54:44.500 nothing at all or like don't go get drunk on the weekends if she has like a glass of wine with

03:54:49.860 dinner or like that's fine but because i don't really drink much i'll look occasionally maybe

03:54:55.860 very rarely maybe a couple times a year i might have a glass of wine but i never get like totally

03:55:02.900 drunk i don't really drink i don't do drugs i don't party i don't go to bars i don't go to clubs

03:55:07.700 so obviously i want that commonality with a woman and so uh but she has a glass of wine with dinner

03:55:13.060 yeah that's fine whatever just one just wine uh-huh just wine i guess beers no just one oh just one

03:55:23.140 i mean it's kind of just more so related to like does she party like social but i'd prefer like a

03:55:29.140 girl who doesn't just drink in general i don't but look if she has a if she drinks a bit of wine with

03:55:37.220 i don't know i guess that's okay but would i prefer her to just drink in moderation or not at all yeah

03:55:45.300 because i don't i'm not really like that so okay let's try to get through all the things here uh we

03:55:51.940 have just another guy oh sorry this one already came out um my bad here let me do a couple of the

03:55:57.940 chats we have her and brandon i don't know what you're talking about body count definitely matters

03:56:02.420 homie also most people don't care mexicana or mexicans no one gives a fuck did i miss this part

03:56:09.300 i don't know stop listening to the media also brandon is grant and alvaro alvaro alvaro or 29 in

03:56:15.700 columbus giving you nightmares he's is grant alvernon is what he probably means okay um in 29th i

03:56:22.580 never patrolled over in the area that's the hood that's okay i mean all the shootings and stabbings and

03:56:28.260 arizona in tucson and tucson 29th grand alvaro it's crazy over there so okay but i didn't patrol

03:56:35.140 that area i patrol my own craziness we got grid one motorsports shockingly toxic panel tonight really

03:56:40.420 i thought it's been pretty good need to buy more stock in meow mix and prepaid legal services it's

03:56:44.660 looking like record growth for both in the near future okay grid one motorsports thank you man

03:56:48.820 appreciate appreciate it we have uh curtis leone here thank you man it's coming up here brian has it

03:56:57.140 harder than most guys unfortunately he tracks the of slash ex porn stars who literally beg him they

03:57:03.460 even try to bribe him with dinner before he gives it up well i've never dated or been with an of or

03:57:10.420 porn star um um so uh thank you curtis leone appreciate it um were you the one that was trying

03:57:18.340 to like get with layla because i'll set you up because i don't want her um uh jbl exhibit a the

03:57:25.860 girl that was in the article that lives in new york that said she saved herself 150 a week in groceries

03:57:30.740 by going on dates weekly this is a lot more common than you think nick or nick do you remember that

03:57:36.180 article or look up nick if you can google um girl saves 150 a week on groceries it says i think a new

03:57:45.380 york post article brandon is talking about what should be brian is talking about what is um oh

03:57:53.620 that was the other thing i forgot to mention when it comes to like my hesitance when it comes to paying

03:57:56.980 for first dates is certainly not all women um and the majority of women do not do this but there are

03:58:03.620 some women who do what's called a foodie call where they go on a date with a guy without any genuine

03:58:08.980 interest in him at all and they just want a free meal or free opportunity like free opportunity free

03:58:14.260 experience right so um that is another concern that i think guys have when it comes to paying for

03:58:20.500 the first date is she actually genuinely interested in like getting to know me or does she just want a

03:58:25.860 free meal which to me is like that's a waste of fucking time but i guess some people do well yeah

03:58:29.380 men should take the lead though you know a woman should be actually on a date that's kind of weird

03:58:33.620 for her to be actually can we go out i mean a man should take the lead yeah but but also men have to

03:58:37.780 take their we can't just be whining about this stuff you should be having conversations with these

03:58:42.740 women you're trying to date you should you should know a little bit about them before you go on to

03:58:46.820 invest on that first date you should have conversations i mean people are acting like

03:58:51.300 you swipe one time and you go on a date it's like then you're a fool you should be able to communicate

03:58:56.900 and figure out where this woman's head is at learn a little bit about her see if you even want to go on

03:59:00.980 a date there's no reason to go on a date just to get to know people you can get to know them through

03:59:04.180 text calling on the phone if you go on that date you want to make sure that's somebody you want to

03:59:08.900 pursue because you're going to make an investment financially i don't know how dudes get tricked

03:59:13.460 unless they're desperate by a woman that's going on a date every single night for 50 nights

03:59:17.940 i mean that you shouldn't be that available as a man she shouldn't be able to line you up like that

03:59:25.540 well you but they're able to they're able nick were you able to find the article

03:59:31.060 yep this is it i went on six dates a week and didn't have to buy groceries for two years

03:59:36.020 years and this vivian too admitted to hype hyper ballize hyperbolizing the number of

03:59:43.700 you follow her she gives uh women financial advice can you show the

03:59:50.420 uh she wait the number of dates she went on per week uh let's see she bragged that she went on six

03:59:58.020 dates a week between 2016 2018 i didn't buy groceries once probably saved about 150 a week she captioned

04:00:04.500 the post in which she mouthed along okay scroll down a little bit so uh more this yeah wait no no

04:00:12.740 no up up up so i can read this stop when they say women are bad with money but you used to go on six

04:00:18.260 dates a week to avoid paying for groceries so look this is not the majority of women but you have

04:00:23.940 that woman is unremarkable well there are a couple possible answers jesus okay that woman is an average

04:00:32.580 looking woman she's unremarkable not particularly physically attractive she's not like a smoke show

04:00:38.740 10 out of 10 supermodel looking woman she's it she's going on six dates a week so even average women

04:00:44.420 are telling the truth like this yeah it's all legit so again but is she going on dates with is

04:00:51.620 she going on dates with men that are worth a dime she got some ugly ones you gotta close that tab out

04:00:56.580 or something because it's triggering she must have some ugly ones in there i i but i think that's very

04:01:01.220 rare i don't know a woman even have the time you have to be a low life for you to have the time of

04:01:06.500 day to go on dates every night for six nights in a row you have nothing going on in your life

04:01:10.500 yep and that so that as a man you should know that you should understand what do you do for a

04:01:15.700 living what what should also you know what are other things to go to the same questions every

04:01:20.100 single day with the different dates you know like oh so how old are you right and for a date for a

04:01:26.900 free food a free meal but no not not all women move that way but there's enough that move that way

04:01:33.380 that guys are starting to want to protect their sanity because they don't want to feel like a sucker

04:01:38.900 when they go on a date with this women woman and then they feel they feel used in the same way that

04:01:43.540 like women probably don't want to feel used in a in the sexual way men don't want to feel used in a

04:01:49.940 financial way so anyways we have azul 69 here brian good to see you out here grinding yank your question

04:01:56.980 who can brent bench press more you brandon or me i can rep 35 pounds on each side probably at least

04:02:03.540 five times good right enjoying the show i'm gonna say brandon here is probably five pounds on each side

04:02:08.740 i don't i think i think i think my uh plus the bar i think i could do that he must have put the

04:02:15.060 wrong he must have put the wrong stuff in there uh oh yeah it's still 30 it's still 35 kg on each

04:02:23.700 side it's still lightweight oh that's like enjoy the show keep doing your thing in ivy thank you azule 69

04:02:29.460 we have bender the offender brian what are your thoughts on the situation with the ml pitcher trevor

04:02:33.300 bauer oh it is a false accusation case that shows just how some women can be pure evil i saw the

04:02:38.820 video um i actually reached out to him to see if he wants to be on the show and maybe do a one-on-one

04:02:44.180 interview so uh i didn't fully review the thing i just but uh it sounds to me like false accusation

04:02:53.620 ruined his career it sounded like i did a video about it earlier i did some research on it the woman

04:02:59.780 apparently set him up from the very beginning she knew how much his net worth was she got caught

04:03:04.100 texting a friend about how she's going to take advantage of him she leveraged rough you know what

04:03:09.460 i don't know if i can say it on your thing but she leveraged rough play rough play with the man and she

04:03:15.300 told him hey hit me harder and all this other stuff while they were doing the stuff and uh she leveraged

04:03:20.660 that to act as if he beat her and then she made these accusations he he lost his position he had a 100

04:03:26.660 million dollar contract they suspended him for two years he was out of the mlb and then it just

04:03:31.620 came out that he was innocent women do this i'll i'll say this and it's very unfortunate when i was a

04:03:37.540 cop 99 of the allegations of misconduct sexually assault and all that stuff were all fake it's it's

04:03:47.940 really unfortunate that women who actually that stuff happened to they don't report it but some women

04:03:52.580 that do report it they lie about it and in my career only had two real cases and i had a detective

04:03:57.780 sergeant that was in investigation for 10 years or 15 years never had a single legitimate case so it's

04:04:04.340 unfortunate fortunate that some women do things like that it makes the ones who are legitimate victims

04:04:10.180 afraid to say something and make people not believe them this woman is a perfect example she made up a

04:04:15.140 whole scenario that she was beaten and then it ended up do you do you think that um in your in your

04:04:22.100 estimation what if you had to assign a percentage what percentage of uh reported incidents of uh

04:04:32.980 assault let's say uh are unfounded what do you mean that are not legitimate or we could not

04:04:40.740 get to the bottom of it they're not legitimate of assaults with s essays yeah okay um i would say

04:04:49.140 80 percent probably or probably illegitimate and what what do you think are some of the motivations

04:04:56.660 typically getting called one girl it was a crazy scenario she was cheating with she was cheating on

04:05:02.100 her boyfriend she climbed up on the second story in the room to cheat boyfriend come home catch her she

04:05:08.740 started claiming that he that she was getting taken advantage of so the boyfriend pulls out a knife

04:05:13.460 the guy puts his hand up cut his finger off and they ended up finding out after she admitted that no

04:05:19.060 she was cheating and she was afraid that she was getting caught so she made that accusation other young

04:05:25.220 women do it a lot unfortunately their parents find out that they've been interacting with men or they

04:05:31.940 slept with somebody and they don't want the baby so they have an opportunity to have the plan b

04:05:36.020 pill given to them for free and an std check at the hospital and a lot of them go to the hospital

04:05:40.500 and do that not knowing that the hospital has a duty to report and so we show up to do the report

04:05:45.540 and they they make up some fake story so that has happened a lot of times or someone women have some

04:05:51.700 women have regret so they sleep with a guy and then they make the excuse that oh i was drunk i don't

04:05:56.740 remember what happened so they can get the plan b for free and sometimes they're just embarrassed

04:06:02.500 because everybody now know that they slept with this guy at this party and that's been my experience

04:06:07.700 now i did work in a college town so that's mostly the experience that i had was with these young

04:06:11.860 college girls it's unfortunate you know maybe i haven't taken every call but i know of a lot of

04:06:18.340 women they get taken advantage of and they never say anything they don't report it officially family

04:06:24.340 knows it happened they the trauma comes up later in life and they never reported it in this and i wish

04:06:29.940 that we could reverse that yeah god we have a chat here dark shinobi it's not that rare they

04:06:35.140 have studies and survey this is related to the foodie call thing they have studies and surveys

04:06:39.380 showing that one in three women have gone on a foodie call at least once it's gotten so bad they

04:06:44.500 even showed this on fox news years ago which tends to hide the truth of female nature okay um but where's

04:06:52.740 where's the male responsibility like i mean dude are you that naive that you can't tell that that girl's using

04:06:57.620 you what what investment are you putting into it or what investment do you expect from her that's

04:07:02.500 that we men got to start taking some accountability but i mean there's definitely uh some women that

04:07:10.500 are very unassuming that you wouldn't know move that way like women are very convincing and men are too

04:07:18.260 to a certain degree some men take you on a date and buy you that dinner because they want something

04:07:22.100 at the end absolutely absolutely no you're absolutely we do it too you know i know a lot of

04:07:26.420 people that do that unfortunately do you have something quick yeah something very quick i think

04:07:30.580 that also there's like um uh like a very large now growing men where i get like a goal like that they

04:07:37.700 want to meet and they say i i want to get a girlfriend or i want to learn how to meet a girl and that's

04:07:42.500 something that i absolutely can't do so they go online or on youtube and see these men that are not

04:07:48.660 qualified and men are growing weak weaker or don't know how to talk to girls and that's something

04:07:54.980 that's growing in younger men that i'm starting to see so yeah it's a naive and absolutely not how

04:08:00.580 to talk to a girl getting taken advantage of so yeah we have curtis leone here my bad brian wasn't

04:08:05.060 trying to offend you i'm not offended man i should have clarified i meant the chick across the table from

04:08:09.220 you the two episodes who was begging you to sleep with her she was oh yeah that was layla yeah that was

04:08:16.980 layla the girl who's begging you to sleep with her she was the x star was that layla uh

04:08:24.260 so wait what was oh um i forgot what your point was curtis no it's not going to happen like

04:08:31.620 she wants i mean first off i think she's trolling but no i don't i she's a porn star i don't want to

04:08:37.780 get with her okay um but it's bullshit she's just she's trolling okay so uh we have a couple more

04:08:45.140 notes here and let me see julia oh i have some notes for you here okay let's see um and i we

04:08:55.300 let's try to get through these quick because we all wrap up here pretty soon working in dc you said

04:08:59.700 you had experiences where you've been approached by political figures to engage in certain activities

04:09:04.260 recently at a congressional caucus brunch i was approached by the chief of staff of a congressman

04:09:12.260 who was interested in meeting me and given the number to call that provide transportation from

04:09:16.660 event to undisclosed location yeah so when you say engage in certain activities do you mean i don't

04:09:21.700 know because i've never engaged but i'm assuming like like a swingers thing or no i think they just

04:09:28.100 like they fun they'll pick up girls and they'll go to hotels but like so like but they do it they do

04:09:32.900 it like low key so they sent they're like i'll have a driver come get you and they'll take you here and

04:09:37.300 then i'll meet you know oh okay sweet um you said a congressional con was there

04:09:46.020 i mean it's usually at these like yeah so it's someone that democrat or republican

04:09:50.020 democrat surprisingly oh okay i know i know i just knew i was gonna be a republican but

04:09:56.740 no not because republicans are uniquely uniquely worse than democrats but i figured that you would

04:10:00.980 probably be at a republican event potentially okay or associated you said when you were an 18 and a

04:10:06.900 freshman at asu i was told by a girlfriend that since i had a college email i could sign up for

04:10:12.420 a sugar baby account thing for free i didn't know potentially get a sugar wait what i didn't know

04:10:18.980 it was a sugar was it seeking or it was like it was like you want you can meet qualified great i was

04:10:23.540 naive i was a baby so it was like you can meet qualified like men like and you know yeah having

04:10:29.940 yeah compared to like the sticky floors of frat bathrooms that sounded great

04:10:33.860 so i was like sure i'll meet i'll get a i'll meet a nice guy like who's like but you were aware the

04:10:38.100 term used was sugar baby sugar daddy like not fully no okay so you said that on the website what happened

04:10:49.460 the guys were asking for revealing photographs correct so if you know so if you were an if you

04:10:55.460 would if you were a female and you would call it like an asu email you got it for free you got access

04:11:00.820 this site for free so i thought it was like a dating platform or something and and the men paid

04:11:05.460 for it and so i got on and i was like okay interesting and i noticed that there was like

04:11:11.860 lots of there was like you'd start talking and there's some lots of requests for like naked pictures

04:11:18.420 and you're like no no no no but there's this one guy and he was friendly and he was like hey can i

04:11:24.580 have a picture of your feet and i did not know that that was like a thing so i was like oh yeah

04:11:33.620 so i was like sure so i was like yeah that's easy like why not so i sent him a picture of

04:11:37.780 my feet i don't know how much did he pay for it he didn't pay anything for it what wait no

04:11:43.780 this is what i'm telling you like i thought i was on here like maybe to meet like love of my life

04:11:48.740 for something i'm i know meet the love of your life i i was i didn't know after the foot picture

04:11:56.500 thing she found love this was before like i signed up before before and then he was and he was talking

04:12:01.620 he was like hey like he was asking me about my shoe size and stuff and i was like oh okay you you

04:12:06.420 wait so for free you sent him pictures of your feet yeah because i wasn't signing up for like some

04:12:11.540 prostitution thing like i was not expecting any money transaction but what so you actually

04:12:17.780 wanted to date him potentially i was because i was told the thing didn't throw you off a little bit

04:12:23.620 i was like oh that's odd like but i didn't know she's open-minded i wouldn't say i would say more

04:12:28.500 naive okay i had no idea you sent him three pictures of your feet he then said that uh you qualified

04:12:36.020 and then told you he would pay you a thousand to go to his house five thousand oh should i put it

04:12:42.500 five thousand to go he would send a car pick me from my dorm and he would send a car and bring me

04:12:48.740 and he was like i have all these high heels and he was like i would like you to walk on my back

04:12:55.700 in high heels oh that's crazy did you do it no of course he was like i'll give you five thousand i was

04:13:00.660 like oh my gosh no yeah no i was terrified does he still exist yeah i was like this sounds like the

04:13:08.340 beginning of a of a horror movie give me that money this is how i end up in a basement somebody's weird

04:13:13.060 let me let me just say this i know it's weird i want to defend all the men out there that like feet

04:13:17.700 um so it's not weird for me in the light feet that dude has got something going on yeah now let me

04:13:23.940 let me say this is this is this a whatever official brandon tatum do you have i am a foot person really

04:13:30.660 and my wife watching it she knows she already i love feet the first thing the first thing that i

04:13:36.100 look at on a woman is her feet whoa the very first thing because one one thing is i like feet but also

04:13:44.180 it says a lot about a woman if she take care of her hands and her feet if you see a woman with chipped

04:13:50.020 up no offense to you ladies you see a woman with chipped up fingernails and chipped toes and they don't

04:13:55.940 take care of of the little things it in my opinion i believe that they're not taking care of the

04:14:01.380 stuff wait so that's just me do you get like do you get like like it it's a turn-on for you yes

04:14:07.940 a hundred percent like you get bricked up sorry sorry i'm being full right i'm sorry i'm a feet are

04:14:14.420 very attractive feet are very attractive when i would date a woman that would that i'm gonna be

04:14:20.020 an honest that could be a deal breaker really i dated a young lady okay she was incredibly gorgeous

04:14:26.100 when i was in college beautiful model she was a dancer and we i liked her at first yeah and then

04:14:33.140 she i i want to see what her feet look like okay right because the rest of her body was almost

04:14:38.420 perfect okay then she said hey i have dancers feet oh and i was like there's it's not much at this

04:14:44.820 point it's not much your feet can look like that's gonna really turn me off completely interesting but

04:14:50.260 she pulled her socks off in the knuckles and not all dancers they were not but she had made mention

04:14:57.140 to it and knuckles her big toe was bigger than mine it was ash and it had knuckles on it

04:15:02.820 and i said oh man i can't i can't imagine that she's like a ballerina yeah she used to do it up

04:15:08.020 on like that and the knuckles were when you just rough what about so bad but i was young yeah that's

04:15:15.380 how i like when she just kept the socks on okay but i was young i was 18 i still liked feet but i was

04:15:22.020 18 and that was a deal breaker at the time okay but it's a real thing like there's guys out here that

04:15:26.420 really believe that and they're not weird like that guy i got my lady thing you got your foot thing it

04:15:30.900 is what it is yeah and girls got their height thing and other things yeah everybody's got their

04:15:35.460 i look at feet as well on the guys oh yeah yeah it's not a deal breaker uh see you're just like me

04:15:43.700 i mean just on the other side i don't have a foot fetish or anything it's just like oh it's good that

04:15:48.020 you have pretty feet but what you said why are you having those feet like you know like if it's like

04:15:52.820 this like i'm not dating this guy what that's that's still this come back like wait so so wait

04:16:00.180 just to bring it back to you really quick uh so okay the the foot thing 5 000 you didn't i did not

04:16:07.700 do it for the record wait this was so you're 29 now you said you were 18 18 so this was back in

04:16:13.300 2011 2013 oh 2013 so this is like 10 years ago yeah maybe i was 19 this is this is kind of like this

04:16:23.780 is almost before the rise of like this shit is way more common now but even back then i feel like it

04:16:28.900 was much less common so before the rise of social media etc um i'm bro that's that's some like life on

04:16:37.220 easy mode shit not gonna lie like there's no dudes out here who have like women oh let me pay you

04:16:43.780 five thousand bucks like 18 year old college guys five thousand bucks to like for sure do some weird

04:16:50.580 shit like we would do it but he may have murdered me i don't know but this i feel like i mean when i was

04:16:56.820 18 19 life on easy mode kind of like unless he murdered me yeah but like that's some life on easy

04:17:03.540 mode on easy mode yeah but what does it really cost to do that i know does it show more about my

04:17:09.620 character that i didn't do it right no but i'm saying you have like there are women who take

04:17:13.700 advantage of that shit we've had women on the show who they'll have sugar daddies who they never even

04:17:18.580 meet and these guys will like be sending them thousands of dollars of money so no y'all can't look

04:17:25.940 for sure but we have an expiration date i put that's the thing that's the big we'll get to that i put some

04:17:30.660 blame on men these guys are fucking up the dating marketplace for other dudes but you do get some

04:17:36.980 benefits as ladies like absolutely 300 bucks you want data girl that uh sells like um her buddy or

04:17:46.820 whatever but i wouldn't yeah you wouldn't i mean look never say never perhaps there's some girl out

04:17:52.500 there who does like tasteful lingerie stuff it's not it's not optimal but i've never dated a woman who

04:17:59.940 does only fans is it conceivable maybe she sells feet peaks feet oh my god what if she walks on

04:18:10.500 people's backs and heels you have an accent yeah oh i don't i don't know you well feet peaks

04:18:17.700 peaks you sound like borat donated 99 dollars a sealer girl across from brian probably got bunions

04:18:26.820 and barnacles blowing on her feet don't don't say that bender the offender she's probably got

04:18:32.660 her it's probably a rainbow and you should show your feet whoa what the

04:18:35.940 what the fuck okay i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry am i wait what was her or her do you selfie

04:18:40.660 pics is out you're asking for yourself no are you asking for you do you selfie pics no oh what oh i

04:18:48.180 thought you were like trying to she's giving you a hypothetical oh okay

04:18:54.820 i don't know

04:18:55.300 i'm so lost right now

04:18:59.060 no i'm saying what's up i approve

04:19:01.060 would it be a deal breaker for you if a girl

04:19:05.300 i'm saying like will you date a girl i think that's unbecoming of a of a lady of lady friends

04:19:13.220 exactly that's easier to get over if her if it's just feet and not the body i wouldn't i think

04:19:18.500 it's okay i think it's unbecoming no i wouldn't date a woman that does that because if you're willing

04:19:22.820 to do that it's the other things do you think my story is forgivable if you walk on his back

04:19:28.180 oh no well i didn't walk on his back but i didn't know so i sent a picture of my feet though

04:19:32.900 it might be out there no no that's forgivable i mean you didn't get money no my face is not it

04:19:38.180 no it's just like my right i mean you could you could with your face not in it

04:19:42.420 i'm not saying it's right i would advise women to never do this but if your face is not in it

04:19:47.220 it can be you can overcome that yeah if your face is in it but still if your face is in it it could

04:19:52.580 be trouble it could be problematic so you've sent out feet pics is that what you're you want to know

04:19:56.340 if i would date a woman who's sent out feet pics because you're kind of feeling me right now

04:20:00.660 that's what's up you are in love with me

04:20:06.660 am i right am i i i kind of think it's the other one oh i'm in love with

04:20:11.380 yes i think it's mutual i don't know show me your feet

04:20:16.180 he has pretty feet honestly

04:20:18.180 50 bucks

04:20:20.500 oh that's cheap

04:20:23.060 no i don't know i have no idea who to charge her feet

04:20:25.140 okay all right just a minute

04:20:27.620 okay um see

04:20:30.740 you know it's funny there's a website

04:20:33.700 there's a website called wiki sure pull it up called wiki feet and these weird oh he already has it

04:20:39.780 going bro they made a profile about they just find photos of me where my feet are visible

04:20:45.220 oh my god wait wait wait what's that one scroll up to the top

04:20:50.820 these like and i have a really good rating on wiki feet scroll all the way to the top nick i've got a

04:20:56.500 uh 0.14 out of five stars i did this is not me posting this

04:21:01.460 shit this is some weirdo who wait all of those is you that's me you've gotten four total votes

04:21:08.900 yeah that's just weird as fun nice some weird dude out there is maybe it's a chick i don't know

04:21:15.540 i guess they do maybe wait can we should we look for

04:21:19.860 what do you have yeah you might have a wiki feed

04:21:22.180 oh i'm gonna get a bad score on wiki feets you might have a wiki do you have any like you were

04:21:27.300 doing a vlog one day and you're wearing sandals no i i don't think my feet has ever been on the

04:21:31.060 internet okay because i got okay i'm just saying i don't know i took a picture one time with my

04:21:35.700 kid and my feet was in it i was in the pool you might have a wiki in the pool

04:21:42.420 my feet ain't good okay okay no there ain't nobody got wiki feets of me

04:21:47.460 dude i need to call the police

04:21:58.180 dude is this did you guys create this did you did you guys create this

04:22:04.660 i'm not gonna lie even the woman in the bag no bro i met the dance i met the dead sea in israel

04:22:11.140 floating in the thing and i had a picture on so i can't go under the water so my feet are

04:22:15.700 that's fine this was not planned oh my god dude somebody's a weirdo

04:22:21.860 they got that foot picture that's crazy i'm telling you dude i'm telling you they be

04:22:28.020 these feet people it's just men on there huh it's just they just do

04:22:33.860 margot robbie i think they're it's men and women wiki feet for men wiki feet

04:22:39.300 i googled i googled myself and i was looking at the images and then i saw the url and it was wiki

04:22:48.900 feet i was like the um that's creepy so really quick just honestly if you have

04:22:58.580 he's worried right now he's so you gotta look into that i know i hope my wife feet in on that

04:23:04.260 he had a higher right ratio higher rating than you i have a better rating than him yeah you have a

04:23:09.620 4.43 yeah they don't see what hey i hope somebody go rate my wiki feet

04:23:16.740 that's okay um i thought i had good feet too you do you have four

04:23:21.620 yeah way more pictures than me man i only had one picture so um okay so really quick just on her

04:23:27.140 thing have any of you had this an experience like this with the guy where i'll give you five thousand

04:23:32.020 dollars to do some weird shit have you have you had that before i used to be a sugar baby sugar baby

04:23:37.700 have you had a lot of i went out with a few of them yeah um what's like the uh from each one let's

04:23:44.340 just say the top three how much money total do you think you made from the top three each individually

04:23:50.260 so ten thousand from one five thousand from another no not i it wasn't that great that's

04:23:55.700 why i'm that's what she does did you have to do anything with them how much how much um there was

04:24:01.780 one i i used to get paid like i literally started getting like paid 500 just to go on a date life on

04:24:09.620 easy mode okay yeah and then i got paid two thousand once to go out to have drinks with a man who came who

04:24:19.380 flew out from ohio and um it was easy for him yes i did do something with him um because it was really

04:24:26.420 easy because he was a younger white man and he was hot so word um what about you sure ever had a

04:24:37.460 i mean the weirdest thing it was that it was at this party that i got invited and it was like with rich

04:24:47.300 people and they all selected a caddy of the girls that we were there it's like a swingers

04:24:55.140 thing or no okay no it was they were playing like it's it was a rich people party and they selected a

04:25:01.940 girl and they were like okay well you got you have to help me like you're a caddy like let's help

04:25:07.060 the game it was like bocce ball and we were helping and they were like okay like whatever and then all

04:25:13.620 of the sudden he's like you know what's the price right and i was like price it's like yeah the um

04:25:19.460 the girl that helps the most out there is more friendly gets um three thousand dollars and then

04:25:26.660 there's a second one and the third place you know when you say friendly do you mean

04:25:32.500 no it wasn't nothing like sexual or nothing oh so when you said friendly just i was like oh is this

04:25:40.740 just like serving drinks and stuff for them oh that's not really what i was talking about

04:25:44.740 really but yeah what about you ever had like uh send feet pics for like 500 bucks that type of

04:25:50.340 shit sugar sugar sugar baby sugar daddy okay what about you probably because you have of right

04:25:57.780 there's probably guys who want to be your sugar daddy right yeah but not feet peaks i haven't oh

04:26:03.220 well it just it could be anything oh um a request would be with jeans on black jeans oh okay

04:26:14.100 uh besides that one situation how much are they gonna pay you oh one thousand wow i have some cute black

04:26:20.740 jeans um just that one thing yeah just that one what about you uh dm a dm from an sure uh um an

04:26:29.540 agent asked me if i knew big three and he told me for 40 000 um um i knew it was just can you scoot

04:26:36.900 the mic closer towards you dm scoot scoot the mic so it's like at the edge of the table um one of the

04:26:42.740 i'll just see the actor was from greece and he was his agent and i said no because i was scared of

04:26:49.140 getting raped so he's gonna give you 40 000 40 000 to do what i was i was like 24 to have sex with him

04:26:55.780 but i was scared of being raped oh i'm sorry she wasn't here one of them okay what about you um

04:27:05.220 yeah people have tried to but money's not worth it okay damn i feel cheap nobody ever asked me to do

04:27:13.220 enough for some money well now that you're on wiki feed never i've never had an offer from a woman

04:27:17.860 like a legitimate valid offer from a woman actually let me think about this hold on leila make him an

04:27:23.380 offer um let's see you said i would love to be on an episode with chase because i agree with his

04:27:32.100 christian views but i think he misses the point when he talks about wanting a girl with a low body count

04:27:35.780 i think the important thing is a reformed spirit even if you may have made mistakes in the past oh that's

04:27:40.980 me yeah i thought you pointed at her that's that's what you're saying um i think the important

04:27:46.900 thing is a reformed spirit um so you disagree like that men should overlook women who have a high body

04:27:53.380 count um no it's more and we talked about it a little at the beginning yeah it's like the idea

04:27:59.140 of like just because you have a low body to count doesn't mean that you've like exercised you're

04:28:03.060 exercising you're practicing the virtue of purity okay i see what you're saying so like are you pure

04:28:07.940 yeah technically you're pure but like the great example is that pastor that only fan pastor's

04:28:13.620 wife turned only fans model that you had so like she got married when she was really young she was

04:28:18.900 a christian she was all like well behaved and and pure and now she and then 10 years later she divorced

04:28:25.300 her husband she has three kids and she's an only fans model and an interesting character to say the

04:28:30.340 least and so it's like that's when you're saying like you want to date a younger woman because she's

04:28:37.060 pure you're not actually guaranteeing that she's thought through her values or what she believes

04:28:40.180 in oh okay so you're tying it into uh dating somebody who's younger too i see what you're

04:28:45.380 saying by the way did you ever hear from the guy the you texted the guy right did you hear from him

04:28:51.300 no okay he disappeared rip okay so uh you wanted to touch on sex before marriage

04:28:59.460 age of women as indicator of value okay so sex before marriage i think i mean i don't yeah we

04:29:09.220 you're waiting till marriage yeah yeah do you but do you think realistically speaking because there's

04:29:14.660 been some slip ups in the past do you think like you're gonna slip up again no i don't

04:29:22.100 i've been baptized by the holy spirit since then fyi and then okay so there's more power helping me

04:29:30.340 to not do that sure and i think i have a renewed view on like why i don't want to do it like

04:29:36.980 uh it was more with my ex i didn't really have that established like why i really believe in it it

04:29:42.100 was just like this is what we do as christians okay and now i really believe it because the breakup

04:29:47.620 would have been way easier for sure to your point and then this is uh i've watched men on the show

04:29:52.740 harp on the importance of a low body count and finding a young woman i don't agree with some of

04:29:56.900 the views expressed talking about how a 21 year old woman is higher value than a 31 year old woman

04:30:04.180 um you said i think it discredits women who spent the majority of their 20s in school

04:30:09.140 or devoted to their career um yeah i don't think i don't make it a point to say i typically don't use

04:30:15.940 the terminology high value for men or women i typically avoid using that terminology i don't

04:30:22.180 think it's usually helpful for describing things but um so

04:30:30.580 you're saying so i i watched this and it's it sounds i think as a woman and it'd be interesting

04:30:38.180 to hear what the other ladies think i always assume that when i get married like i'm marrying i'm finding

04:30:44.580 a partner i'm finding a teammate like i'm finding my person that's i'm gonna like in in genesis it's

04:30:51.380 eve is his as air and it literally uses it's like the word helper but like god is also described as

04:30:56.820 that frequently throughout the old testament and it's like we wouldn't think god is subordinate to us

04:31:00.980 so anyway so it's like you're finding the person that's going to like maximize you

04:31:05.140 wait you don't want to be you don't want to be submissive to your husband no i do i do i do i do

04:31:09.620 okay so do you yes okay just wait wait wait well no just because you said well the

04:31:19.860 you you referenced the verse and how eve so like the partner like the match like

04:31:25.060 he she was his she was his perfect compliment in every way and so i always assume that men are

04:31:32.340 looking for that sorry i guess it's been used in that word has been used to say that women are

04:31:38.900 supposed to have to be like some subordinate in a way that's very misogynistic and not like but

04:31:46.340 and i just used it to say like it doesn't mean lesser than because we wouldn't describe god as

04:31:52.900 lesser than even though that word is also used to describe him okay i'm not familiar with the verse

04:31:57.300 so i can't really yeah i know exactly i saw a video where a woman went through and explained it

04:32:02.420 simply what it means is that the value of being his help meet his helper that actual hebrew word

04:32:09.060 is an incredibly powerful word that is invaluable to the growth and success of adam it was as if the

04:32:16.260 same way god treats us in his support and help for us as humanity right that same virtue was pinned

04:32:22.580 upon eve to be that person for adam so she was incredibly impactful just as necessary as he was

04:32:28.100 so she wasn't in fact not equal to him she was equal to him but they they had a different role

04:32:34.020 so her value wasn't diminished because she was to help me exactly okay she's not and eve is also not

04:32:39.220 described as the vessel of adam's legacy you know what i mean she's not a vessel for him just to

04:32:43.220 like reproduce and i've been watching the and so all my life i'm like oh cool that's what i want i'm

04:32:48.820 gonna find my partner and it's gonna be great and i thought that's a men thing too and then i've

04:32:52.500 started watching these things and some and or i'll watch like pearl and i'm just like oh my gosh and

04:32:58.260 it sounds like men just want a woman to be either like a mother they just want her to like create like

04:33:04.020 to raise their children and that's it like it doesn't sound like they're wanting a partner and

04:33:07.700 especially when these men are talking about wanting women that are so much younger than them

04:33:11.060 like they're not looking for someone that's their equal that is sees things like that's kind of on

04:33:20.020 the same page with them that's developed their values in the same way they want someone like purity

04:33:25.140 if you want someone younger because she's probably more pure and she's had to let like well fewer guys

04:33:28.980 running through her okay but she's not actually she's not cultivating purity and then how is she

04:33:35.940 actually going to be your your equal match like it does well i mean there's there's a whole and okay

04:33:42.420 so there's a couple points here you are you linking it to because you're kind of linking it to career

04:33:49.220 a little bit well so i think it's hard because women we were told the age group of like 27 to 35 is

04:33:57.220 kind of rough because we were told like we were hit with all these things like rise of social media

04:34:02.260 that's when the dating app started women were told to like go get your money get your back like

04:34:06.180 get your education that's what men that's what is good for you um the feminist mind the feminist

04:34:12.180 movement that was like when we that was when the narrative of like men suck i think started going

04:34:16.180 around like for that like we just got hit with it all these rise of lgbtq right so like it's like you

04:34:22.500 can go do that it's trans movement all these things right we kind of got hit with and so fewer

04:34:27.780 people are getting married in that age group and then the men that are like my age want to

04:34:32.180 want a woman that's like 21 which is unrealistic i think that what's happening is these young men

04:34:39.620 who are not mature are just saying things that sound cute on the internet they want low body

04:34:44.980 count and that mean age you you also want a woman that's ready and mature a lot of men are not mature

04:34:50.500 in their 20s you want to be 40 and date a 20 year old y'all not even on the same page that woman that

04:34:55.860 don't have life experience i would argue every woman in here will say man i was different in my 20s i was

04:35:01.700 way different in my 20s now i'm more mature and so most men should not be trying to go for a

04:35:06.980 younger woman just off because her body count exactly that's not that's not realistic you should

04:35:12.340 you should consider the body count but you do want a mature woman because people you can't get too

04:35:17.460 caught up on a body count man i'm telling you you'll never know anyway i get a little caught up on it

04:35:21.140 you'll never know anyway you'll never know unless unless you actually knew you they're not going to

04:35:25.380 tell you some women some women may have had a had a had a point in time in college where they were

04:35:32.420 real nasty and they moved on and they moved on but they moved i'm saying they moved on and they want

04:35:39.780 to get back with their life and it's been decades since they've been that way join the nunnery and

04:35:45.140 they're not going to ever tell you the truth join the nunnery join the right let's let's say this

04:35:52.820 let's say this can up but but what about men though what about men can a man have too much of a body

04:35:57.700 count so much can he watch porn every day and be healthy no well i think it's a little different

04:36:03.940 though but it's a little different okay um so do you think young men can just run it up as much as they

04:36:11.060 care to and then later in life they can stop no i don't think like i don't think it's uh

04:36:17.060 good for men to just run through a bunch of chicks i don't i don't think that's a good thing

04:36:21.220 it's certainly not and again same thing with the high value low value terms i don't like using the

04:36:26.260 terms alpha and beta i don't like these terms but just for the sake of this conversation it's certainly

04:36:31.780 not alpha to go and bang a bunch of chicks and get herpes it's not alpha to bring your future wife

04:36:38.420 stds that's not alpha so uh that's not high value so and obviously whether you're a man or

04:36:46.980 woman the more sexual partners you have you're increasing your risk of getting an std herpes etc

04:36:52.820 it's not like that's not a w to like a bunch of chicks and then get herpes you

04:36:58.900 rolled the dice you got the herpes like or be damaged as a man sure where you can never take a

04:37:04.900 woman seriously you're looking for the next but i would say though to your point about age and stuff

04:37:11.460 and i do think that there is an there's a evolutionary component to men preferring younger

04:37:19.300 women and i think it comes down to uh one what younger women are more fertile so if you're a 40

04:37:27.460 year old man and you're who are you going to date someone between the ages of 30 to 40 that and you

04:37:33.380 want to have kids for example you might start looking towards women who are 25 to 29 they're a

04:37:39.620 better bet for fertility and i think that's that's just logically intellectually makes a lot of sense

04:37:45.940 but also just from a purely evo psych angle uh and just a evolutionary biological reality women who after

04:37:56.020 the age of 35 they get into high risk pregnancy pregnancy territory it becomes harder to get pregnant i'm

04:38:01.940 not saying it's impossible you can be in your 40s and get pregnant but if you're a man who's got his

04:38:07.620 life together and you're looking to start a family it is probably a better bet fertility speaking to go

04:38:12.660 for younger women and it's just evolutionary young huh not too young i'm okay when i say the word woman

04:38:20.500 i am talking about adults are you trying to say like minors well you just said the younger so i just

04:38:28.340 younger women so i just we're talking about like early 20s we're talking about adult relationships here

04:38:34.340 i'm not but what do you think i'm talking about fucking 11 year what the fuck i'm talking about

04:38:39.140 adult relationships no you just said younger so i thought the term was like the younger you go i'm

04:38:44.100 assuming 18 enough yes that's what i'm talking about adult relationships i'm not talking about

04:38:49.300 you make an incredible point because i do think men when they get older they do have to evaluate that

04:38:54.180 and and you know you're a man in your 40s and you've never been married you don't have any kids

04:38:59.700 you know that you're probably in a in a weird territory yourself but i do think men like that do

04:39:04.660 want younger women and it makes sense to right you can't have a woman in her 40s when you 40 because

04:39:10.100 y'all ain't gonna have no kids if that's what you aspire to be but i do think these young guys are

04:39:14.660 they're they're in their 30s or late 20s and they're acting like a woman who's 31 is just dead meat

04:39:22.820 and i feel like that that's that's crazy to me to believe that because these young men are not ready

04:39:30.020 until they're in their late 20s or 30s like i told you yeah you can you can beat your chest and say oh i'm

04:39:35.380 i'm ready for women i'm dating and you and your mama still pay your phone bill

04:39:38.740 that those things young men need to really be focused on developing and becoming a man that can

04:39:45.300 provide first and then start dating and sometimes women who have gone through the phase of being

04:39:51.940 confused about who they are and dating they come out of that when they go into their late 20s and 30s

04:39:58.740 and i think that's where women are probably prime is right around that area when they're too young man

04:40:03.780 they lost they they don't know what they want to be 100 and you don't want to be with a woman like

04:40:08.260 that that's how you get divorced yeah and there's actually a divorce rate no no um to that point

04:40:13.540 when you marry someone five years there's a five-year age gap that increases the chance of divorce by

04:40:19.940 like 20 percent and when there's a 10-year age gap it increases chance of doors by 40 percent look you're

04:40:25.140 you're 29 right i'm 29 29 right um how do i and apparently geriatric to a lot of these people

04:40:33.460 watching look the look it's just the reality is is that across multiple age cohorts of men like in

04:40:41.140 terms of just what men find the most physically attractive it's women who are like 21 at any age

04:40:48.740 most men purely physical attractiveness it's 21 whereas women it tends to match up more so with

04:40:55.060 a woman who's 29 is going to find a guy who's 30 like peak physical attractiveness but men as they

04:41:03.220 continue to age they continue to find women who are like 20 to 22 within the just that's a constant

04:41:10.340 when it comes to physical attractiveness there's probably an evolutionary basis for that because

04:41:15.060 younger women are more fertile but there was a study that showed that men prefer women's like as they

04:41:22.020 get older their attractiveness to men it goes up faster like they prefer men that are closer to

04:41:27.460 their age but men it did too it was much less significant like for one for a woman every year

04:41:32.740 she aged she liked she found people that were like it was like five years plus one year that that so

04:41:42.580 like people six years less than uh okay so you're you're 29 right so let me think okay i'm 34 i can't think

04:41:52.580 of the ben what's the benefit of dating a 34 year old instead of a 24 year old because i find me no

04:41:58.740 no for me because i find a woman who's 24 much more physically attractive than a woman than 34 it

04:42:03.620 depends on the woman right a 34 year they're gonna get triggered a 34 year woman that's they take care

04:42:09.540 of herself and is healthy and active and stuff she can look just as good as a younger woman

04:42:13.700 disavow you don't think so are you saying it because i'm 24 no just okay okay um these these

04:42:22.820 little kids like like down here when i drove in today these are little kids out here there's no

04:42:29.300 way party chicks but they're party but i don't want a party chick but but but their their bodies

04:42:33.940 and their shape and and what they look like is yeah they're very physically 20 year old they're not

04:42:38.900 attractive to me they're not attractive these are little kids how they dress no because these are

04:42:43.220 they look like little kids they look like little immature women that's not developed they they're

04:42:49.540 just like little kids out there when i see them i see little kids i see young women there's nothing

04:42:55.220 a 20 year old can do for me as a 36 year old man it's not i don't even want to look at them they have

04:42:59.940 no experience in life they've done nothing they need they still gotta figure themselves out like a

04:43:05.620 woman's experience in life to me is not really something that i'm i'm looking for so what do you

04:43:11.220 want do you want a vessel for your semen like what no because because because because no but if you

04:43:16.900 don't want if you don't want her as a partner like someone that's that can be equal to you then what

04:43:21.620 do you want so and i don't equal who okay this whole idea this whole idea but most most women don't want

04:43:29.220 equal you want a guy who makes more money than you you want a guy who's taller than you you want

04:43:33.220 a guy who's confident you want a guy who's entertaining but you want a guy who's you want

04:43:36.820 a girl who's more virtuous you want a girl who's maybe calmer and will calm you down you want a girl

04:43:40.340 who is probably like beautiful you want a girl who's fertile you want like and that's not going to be

04:43:44.340 a woman that's okay that's not going to be a woman who's probably around my age i think i think brian

04:43:51.380 you're like you're around the age where women are probably in their prime

04:43:55.060 it's 34 I think it's I think early 30s early 30s women is 24 I think I'm not when I say prime

04:44:03.340 when I say prime physical prime no no when I say prime I'm not talking about physical

04:44:07.160 I'm not talking about anything I'm talking about the whole package of a woman yes that's what I

04:44:12.880 think when they're 25 I mean just you're gonna deal with I think you may deal with a lot of

04:44:17.620 immature women you're 25 yeah they're not gonna understand you and unless they were raised by

04:44:22.220 quality parents now if they got good parents and they're raising a household that's this that has

04:44:27.560 them in a position where they're very mature a 25 year old woman will be incredible but when you're

04:44:31.760 third when you're in your 30s 20 year old women are in a different generation than you are they

04:44:36.860 don't understand the things that you would understand as a mature man in your 30s headed

04:44:42.040 into your late 30s I think I could be wrong but I'm just saying for me when I was you know when

04:44:47.900 I'm in my 30s 18 and 20 year olds and 21 22 I never even thought about dating girls that young

04:44:54.200 what I would say is that there are plenty of women in any age that are immature that are toxic that are

04:45:04.280 red flags that in any age group so it's not like just because a woman's 34 that that means that she's

04:45:11.220 magically going to be a fantastic partner now also there's often a common thing that comes up with

04:45:18.920 this conversation is well what do you have in common with someone who's you know five years

04:45:22.760 younger than you 10 years younger than you whatever it may be commonality is not a is not very high on

04:45:30.600 the totem pole in my view when it comes to romantic partners and I think that's the case for both men

04:45:35.760 women she doesn't like the same movies that is I like I don't really care commonality what what do

04:45:41.760 men and women have in common really to begin with it's so so commonality is not super important to me

04:45:47.800 what I will say and I've got a list here of kind of like why you might want to date a woman who's

04:45:54.100 okay weird just clarification here woman so adult woman because people are trying trying to want to

04:46:00.180 shift it into okay you're okay so more physically attractive I would say more emotionally available

04:46:06.820 more romantic more energy more energy optimistic for the future uh more time to live life and travel

04:46:12.680 the world before starting a family more more fertile less baggage and trauma that's really big the more

04:46:18.580 relationships you've had you get more baggage you have more relationship more relationship trauma

04:46:23.220 you're jaded there's only room for one jaded person in this relationship and that's me oh okay

04:46:28.600 more open to new ideas um more agreeable typically easier to build a life with um less likely to have

04:46:35.840 gotten with like we were talking about before the law the more sexual partners you've had you've

04:46:42.060 probably landed on a guy who's a top fucking g and I don't want to be like you're gonna be like

04:46:49.740 when in the dark recesses of your mind once you've been with a really top fucking guy you're not gonna be

04:46:56.420 happy with mr. normal I think I do think women will probably answer this I mean some of you guys

04:47:03.760 have been with guys and some of the guys in the past are you couldn't even like you have no

04:47:09.720 recollection emotionally with that person I mean I don't know if that's the way you get some women

04:47:14.660 get over that right they don't have no feeling for the guy anymore and it's like a blur in their mind

04:47:20.860 just like me and my wife was like you slept with some girl and I'm like I don't even remember

04:47:25.340 I have no recollection I don't even know what it was like I just know I slept with the girl but I

04:47:30.740 don't know what it's like I'm so far removed from that at this point that it's not really adding

04:47:34.860 any issues to my life but Brian I think you're also generalizing women in that I agree with you

04:47:42.160 women younger women are more physically attractive and that's where our prime is they're more fertile

04:47:48.140 but also women like he said in their early 30s or maybe or like later in their in their 20s they

04:47:56.480 some women have done their work they've gone to therapy they've done their work they they have

04:48:01.700 gotten gone in their careers and they're there to take care of you they're gonna sat they're gonna

04:48:05.860 stop partying like one thing that we talk what we talked about me and my my my my future fans

04:48:12.800 we're gonna do it but um I'm gonna get rid of my instagram because that's something that I that we

04:48:19.160 talked about and I decided yes because I want to do this I want to stop partying I'm I'm dedicating

04:48:24.680 my life to you um and um we're not all the same he's going he's gonna start going to therapy because

04:48:31.580 we're we're both doing this together it's not that wait let me just wait I'm not I'm not finished

04:48:37.400 the thing I'm telling you is that not all women are bringing excess baggage are bringing have been

04:48:46.020 trained through life the longer you've lived the the more likely you are to have accrued

04:48:52.020 baggage and trauma wiser you are but I have done what I'm wise enough for the both of us no I have

04:48:58.980 done therapy that's why I've done trauma my own trauma therapy because I don't want to bring it

04:49:04.500 through therapy and has had all this trauma so you don't want a girl who's really decided who

04:49:10.640 she is and and has established I didn't do it for him I did it for myself and then I have a question

04:49:16.420 why don't why don't you want that in a woman why don't I don't think you don't I want a woman who

04:49:21.220 hasn't had a bunch of trauma no no no no why don't you want a woman who has had enough time to what

04:49:26.540 just go go go go go go calm down why don't you want a woman who has had enough time to really

04:49:33.180 figure out who she is and believe not and live out those and like establish her values and our

04:49:39.020 virtues and live those out and that doesn't necessarily mean that she's been run through a

04:49:42.800 bunch of times or has all this relational baggage that doesn't mean that but she's been on the earth

04:49:46.320 longer so she's had a longer time that doesn't that's not an attraction and by the way a 19 year old

04:49:51.420 it doesn't make you more attractive because you've had more like emotional IQ emotional health

04:49:56.500 19 year olds who have more trauma than I've absolutely way 100 percent yes there are there

04:50:03.260 are deeply troubled women of any age group however it is the case that as you move through life you

04:50:10.040 start accruing certain traumas not necessarily certain trauma certain baggage how do you know that

04:50:16.160 if you've had 10 boyfriends versus one I've only had probably ran into a toxic fucking guy

04:50:22.340 three relationships I'm not dude I'm not talking about you the life the the sun does not revolve

04:50:27.340 around you I'm not saying it revolves around me I'm just saying that but that's anecdotal and unique

04:50:32.040 that's what I'm saying don't generalize women but this is a dating podcast we're operating in

04:50:38.640 general okay you're true that's right yeah that's right I give you that so the reality look it's just

04:50:43.660 are you so you're saying it's a deal breaker age no absolutely not no and and the reality look I'm

04:50:48.560 not I'm not like hanging out at college parties trying to fuck a co-ed like like I'm not trolling

04:50:55.000 at college parties oh let me get a sorority check actually the reality is most of the women I date are

04:50:59.420 actually around my age and actually recent in recent history I've dated women who are some women

04:51:04.380 who are older than me I've dated a woman who's 39 I dated a woman uh two three years ago who was 45

04:51:09.680 granted she didn't have kids still you know okay that's another conversation but that's very

04:51:14.480 open-minded but I'll I'll most of the women I date I say are late 20s early 30s I would but I'm not

04:51:21.220 going to sit here and say when it comes to just like the the women who I think are most physically

04:51:26.080 attractive like it's probably a 21 year old girl I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest I would encourage I

04:51:31.560 would encourage young men who want to be married in a relationship to not think too deep into it

04:51:37.160 just become a the the man you need to be and and when you're in your mission and your purpose you'll

04:51:43.700 find a woman and don't you know I guess lose that opportunity because you're looking at age

04:51:50.180 or something like that I married my wife and she was 36 you know yeah I thought about it and I said

04:51:56.240 you know what I already had a kid is she older than you yeah she's older than me so I already had a kid

04:52:01.660 so I thought about it but I love my wife and we and God ended up blessing us with one kid and that's

04:52:06.700 enough for me I don't want no more kids so but that was good enough for my life and my family you know

04:52:11.480 a person can get so caught up in I want to be with a younger woman because we're gonna have 15 kids

04:52:16.260 and you meet a younger woman and she has can you guys wait like just 10 more minutes or

04:52:20.680 if if if we don't wrap by then just you're welcome to excuse I I know it's getting late so if you need

04:52:27.300 to excuse yourself that's fine go ahead yeah but you know you get the younger woman because she's

04:52:30.740 young and we're gonna have 15 20 kids but but it's a woman who's immature you end up getting a divorce

04:52:34.700 or she dies at a young age you don't know what life has for you so don't get too caught up in these

04:52:41.080 in this minutiae just focus on being being a great man build your values and when when you're ready

04:52:48.340 and it's time for you to be with somebody be open-minded to a woman that's there to add value

04:52:54.020 to your life right oh it could be it could be a 21 year but people get so caught up in these stats

04:52:58.440 that they they overlook an incredible woman that's probably older than they would like I thought that

04:53:04.120 I wanted a younger woman than my wife but what if I said she's 36 years old I can't have kids with her

04:53:10.460 I'm not gonna be with her I think that that may be a negative if you if you carry that it's okay to

04:53:16.300 think about it it's okay to understand the numbers but people got to start looking at their lives as

04:53:20.060 individual experiences right and don't get caught up in the generalization not saying don't look at

04:53:24.720 it but don't get caught up because you may walk away from an incredible woman or an incredible man

04:53:28.700 because you thinking of these stats I agree oh I mean look again I've most of the women I've dated in

04:53:34.180 I don't know the past couple years actually probably most look at are within my some some older

04:53:42.860 some younger uh you know dated the 39 year old dated the 29 year old uh when I was 33 whatever

04:53:49.420 uh I do want to go around the table though what's the oldest guy you've dated in terms of age gap

04:53:56.060 like dated dated dated or went out with had sex with had sex with dated relationship whatever

04:54:04.500 um 65 and you were how old I was 29 okay so that's okay what about you uh 13 year gap 13 year gap

04:54:15.900 what about you four year four year four four what about you what's the biggest gap uh 15 years

04:54:21.660 oh my god so he was four I was 20 I was 28 he was 44 so you were 28 he was wait but so hold on you

04:54:29.340 you are complaining about men dating younger women but you're stealing a 45 year old from a 40 year

04:54:35.000 old woman so what are you complaining about what you're complaining you're complaining hold on no

04:54:43.960 no you're complaining that men in your age range men who are like late 30s are not interested in you

04:54:49.320 they want to chase the 21 year old here you are dating a 40 45 year old and you're 29 well I was 28

04:54:56.140 what about the 40 year old women you're stealing I was 28 and one of the things one of the ways I

04:55:01.520 matured over this last year was realizing that so look at that see growth when you were 21 when you

04:55:07.760 were younger say like 21 did you ever date an older guy like in his 30s no I only dated guys that

04:55:12.960 were my age okay sure um what about you uh 10 year gap what about you biggest four four year okay

04:55:19.620 gotcha and also didn't you say earlier in the conversation that there's you're you're currently

04:55:25.080 crushing on a 23 year old yeah whoa no okay so why are you like light crush like light light crush

04:55:32.080 but you know it sounded like you're pretty into him and he's 23 yeah which is like the so I think

04:55:38.320 that's helping the car I'm like that's the reverse I'm like that's like it is the reverse but you're

04:55:42.120 yeah you in your pre-show messages to us you were saying how people should date their equals they

04:55:47.340 should date in their uh I'm trying to find the exact uh let's see hold on um why do this is what

04:55:56.760 you said in your pre-show messages to us why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than

04:56:03.300 them look for partners your own age biblically speaking men should be looking for an equal uh

04:56:10.540 so you're currently crushing on a 23 year old you recently dated a guy who was I wouldn't say

04:56:16.900 recent I mean that was in January we went on a few dates how wait so you were 20 I was 28 he was 44

04:56:22.840 this is a year ago 44 that's a 14 14 year age gap so but why are you saying why do men seek to date

04:56:30.760 and marry girls way younger than them look for partners your own age you just went on a date within

04:56:34.840 the past year a guy who's 14 year old 14 years your senior two years ago but um okay it was January

04:56:42.440 2020 you said you were 28 years old in any case you were 28 years old okay now 29 fine fine fine okay

04:56:47.500 yes now about the crush that's why I'm saying it is just a crush I'm not gonna act on it I'm not

04:56:53.260 gonna go and try to like date him it's just like I'm and I'm it is ironic so you're saying give you

04:56:57.720 that but you would if he hit you up you would date him right but what's the question what's the

04:57:03.500 crush about is it attraction or is it that the the gentleman brings something to the table that

04:57:08.440 intrigues you or is it just he's a smoking hot young man no it's not really about looks it was

04:57:13.460 we had uh we had a I had a I ended up having a two-hour um car ride with him unintentionally and

04:57:21.140 we had a really good conversation I had a lot of fun and then we were on this like retreat this

04:57:25.580 Christian retreat I'm just exposing myself we were on this Christian retreat and it and we just like

04:57:30.420 hung out it was so far so what's wrong with that so I mean I'm I'm sure I'm sure because of the

04:57:37.260 because I think because I'm sure he would never can he would not be looking at me because I'm

04:57:42.880 basically a senior citizen no you're you're an attractive woman he'd probably yeah he'd probably

04:57:48.320 entertain premarital cuddling he'd probably premarital cuddle but like he wouldn't consider

04:57:53.260 dating 129 but so yeah this is the problem with with trying to do the whole date thing I think

04:57:58.920 you should date within your maturity and I know my wife is on the chat I've seen her hey baby

04:58:03.360 you gotta you gotta date within your maturity you and him may be on the same level even though it's

04:58:09.240 a difference of ages and I would hate for him to be listening to guys online and not not you listen to

04:58:14.120 listen to the guys online him no him to listen to like you know the people that we mentioned at the

04:58:18.340 beginning of the show that tell a young man is that she has no value at 28 she's been ran through

04:58:23.340 and yeah it's like no don't don't really take that talk to her figure out what her story is

04:58:28.200 and and that may be the greatest connection you've had and y'all live to be married for 45 years

04:58:33.540 and you may only have two kids yeah you you in the window where you can have plenty of kids

04:58:38.660 so people shouldn't try to think of that too soon it's not worth it I see I just saw a woman on

04:58:44.840 Instagram she had five kids starting at 38 she had 38 yeah 39 40 she her last kid was 44 years old

04:58:54.400 so Courtney Kardashian that dude ain't mad is that dude mad is she 44 years old having kids and he

04:59:00.340 man his life is his life is happy you can have kids but just to bring it back to this I mean so

04:59:05.200 you're saying why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them but you in pretty recently

04:59:10.960 you said within two years you dated a guy who was 14 years your senior so like there's two parts of

04:59:20.160 this equation like it takes two to tango it I think it happens to be the case that there's a decent

04:59:25.940 subset of women that are attracted to older men true and in the same way that young in the same way

04:59:31.680 that men are attracted to younger women younger women are attracted to older men and if you look at

04:59:38.340 the average age of marriage I think it's men are about two years older for the average age of it's

04:59:44.300 like I don't know 20 30 or 29 for men 27 for women so it just happened and most women typically I would

04:59:50.100 say date men that it might not be an extreme gap but are one two three years older than them you

04:59:55.680 typically see that play out I think it just happens to be the case that men are attracted to younger

05:00:01.320 women women are attracted to older men now I mean there's obviously bigger and bigger age gaps that we can

05:00:06.120 talk about but um it's just it's okay when you do it like it's okay for you to date an older guy

05:00:14.240 but what you're upset that men within your own age group are dating women who are in their 20s

05:00:20.040 no but you're stealing you are basically stealing a 45 44 year old guy from a woman who's in their 40s

05:00:27.260 in the same way that a 20 year old woman is stealing 30 year old men from you she may steal

05:00:34.240 the 20 or 23 I may steal some 23 year old man you know but women do want older men I mean my wife

05:00:41.600 told me we were first we weren't even dating but I was interested I was oh she was too young I was

05:00:47.420 interested in her we were on a three-way text message my friend tried to you know he tried to play

05:00:52.080 matchmaker he didn't tell her I was on the text and he said oh man what's up with you and Brandon

05:00:57.200 and she was like oh he's really nice but you know I'm looking for a guy that's like 10 years older

05:01:01.600 than me so my wife was looking for somebody in their 40s so but because she didn't stick to that

05:01:06.820 whole thing she ended up being the man of her dreams that happened to be four or five years younger

05:01:12.020 than her gotcha and I was looking but but me me I was I'm more attracted to a younger woman

05:01:19.960 not a woman in her 40s unless she's in incredible shape but I didn't stick to that model I said I'm

05:01:26.160 gonna go with the woman that that matches my life and that's what I did and there's just like I I also

05:01:32.580 don't think with with the the woman dating an older man that's like a it's still positive about the

05:01:39.800 status of the older man the narrative what I think is problematic is that the narrative about the

05:01:44.200 younger women is that there is this knock on women on on women on older women do you see what I mean

05:01:52.080 it's like it's like it's like and there's this caught and there's a narrative about on some of

05:01:56.980 these podcasts that like older women are are lower values so that the point that like a 29 year old I

05:02:02.320 feel like I'm yeah the senior citizen and and that's not so a net positive for society you're not as a

05:02:09.080 human being we're not talking about your value as a human being we are talking though there's just

05:02:14.140 realities when it comes to the dating marketplace and if we're talking about the dating marketplace

05:02:18.240 and we're talking we're having conversations of who is more valuable in the dating marketplace

05:02:25.480 in the same way that a guy who's six feet is probably more valuable on the dating marketplace than

05:02:31.440 the guy who's five three it's just an it's just the reality like there's all kinds of things that

05:02:36.760 might make you more valuable in the dating marketplace and as you age yeah you're just not

05:02:45.100 only for women well I actually think it's true though it's true though because and I see what people

05:02:50.880 are saying with the podcast they got to be careful the way they say it but what the encouragement is

05:02:55.520 is for young women to be more serious about their dating when they're younger I agree then to play and

05:03:00.780 play and play and you're 35 with all this baggage and then you expect to get a man that's that's

05:03:05.820 far beyond that so I get it so women should should understand to a certain degree that you do need

05:03:11.200 to be intentional more in in dating yeah because I would not wait till you later you know I we've a

05:03:17.760 lot and I know a lot of girls in my case we were told focus on your education go get your bachelor's

05:03:23.080 go get your master's sold a lie you were sold a lie yeah and now I'm oh I'm yeah and so now I'm

05:03:28.960 adding value to myself but it's a value that I'm told is not is not valuable but you're 29

05:03:34.020 somebody's an idiot to think that somehow you don't have value at your age you're talking

05:03:39.240 about women that may be on the cusp of worrying when they get into their late 30s that's where

05:03:47.140 women probably should worry because the likelihood of having children things like that become a lot

05:03:52.400 more complicated 29 years old well I bet there's some people in the chat that are they they're

05:03:57.800 probably single but you know you're a baby compared to life in adulthood you're you're a kid you're not

05:04:04.580 even 30 yet you still got a long way to go these some of these immature men may be a little self

05:04:10.200 conscious about their options or whatever the case may be they may think that oh because she's 29 she

05:04:14.540 slept with all these men and they get they get bombarded with that stuff in their mind you women

05:04:18.680 should never be foolish enough to think that in your 20s that you somehow these young boys ain't

05:04:24.200 the man for you you know you need to get a real man that's that's mature enough and they understand

05:04:28.520 the value that you have and that's willing to forgive you for for what you've been through not

05:04:33.160 painting the picture of you amongst all these other women I'm telling you the guys that that guys that do

05:04:39.520 this online and I know they hate me they're single they're single and they try to tell a young they're

05:04:48.640 telling these young men these things and they're single they're not qualified in my opinion to only

05:04:54.040 have the the mic I think young men should listen to a podcast they should listen to these men they

05:04:59.460 should also listen to men who are married because it takes a little bit of sacrifice a little bit of

05:05:04.380 maturity a little bit of growing up as a man to actually officially marry somebody but but you

05:05:10.180 can't just these young men can't get bombarded with this because they start to give up hope

05:05:14.040 and they look at these women as like damaged goods not every woman is sleeping around and getting ran

05:05:19.260 through and have a crazy body count it's there are women that do it avoid those women you should be

05:05:25.540 able to you should be able to have a conversation with a woman and know oh your body count is high

05:05:29.680 then don't give her another body count move on to another woman but a lot of young men and I've seen

05:05:35.160 it on these shows they tell young men go out get with all these women run it up and do all these things

05:05:42.640 women aren't you shouldn't do that I wouldn't tell a young man that it's not conducive for a young man's

05:05:49.020 growth to be a hoe just because the difference between men and women because women do it and they get

05:05:54.500 shamed for it men do it they get celebrated for it but at the end of the day it doesn't matter what

05:05:59.500 the world believes you do not want to be a damaged young man and you do not want to fall into the

05:06:04.520 trap of being single forever exactly because these young men are going to be single because we just

05:06:08.580 telling them all right she's 35 30 a 28 year old woman is great for this young man she got her stuff

05:06:15.720 together she's mature maybe she had a little life she's over it she's she had incredible value but

05:06:21.380 because she's 28 and he can't have kids with her and can't have her future he's gonna walk away from

05:06:25.300 that woman and go to a mature 21 year old and then get a end up getting a divorce i i hope i'm not

05:06:30.580 ruining your show

05:06:31.480 is that a mute i think we have

05:06:42.320 hold on does that trigger that we have a option to mute someone's microphone

05:06:51.340 no i think we lowered it do i

05:06:54.600 that is mute the microphone

05:06:58.060 okay i guess that's a two minute i agree with you

05:07:02.160 i agree with you totally agree we all agree with you you gotta mute you have to mute my

05:07:06.900 it's only ten minutes it's only ten minutes oh yeah nick do you know how to mute it's the red

05:07:14.680 button oh you muted okay do it count anyway we're gonna wrap up here pretty soon alvin uh

05:07:20.240 for i i like brandon it's it's good it's been good um i i disagree with you a little bit here

05:07:27.880 um i feel like i shouldn't it's not fair for me to without you you being able to respond but

05:07:33.460 i agree with you that there's definitely women who at any age that can make fantastic partners

05:07:48.440 100 agree with you however i think men are allowed to have preferences standards and boundaries just

05:07:56.560 the same way that women are i think we know that women are very selective they're very picky

05:08:01.200 and i think just some of the conversations about hey men if you are capable because look the reality

05:08:08.560 is most 21 year old women are not interested in 35 year old men unless those 35 year old men

05:08:15.160 are really attractive in some sort of metric like there it is a bit of cope like oh at 35 like you're in

05:08:23.120 your peak most men at 35 probably are not capable of securing like a hot college

05:08:31.180 girl like it's just reality right however if you are an attractive guy in your 30s and you can

05:08:37.300 get a woman in her mid 20s or early 20s and she's really physically attractive and she's a great woman

05:08:45.400 like i it's i guess the question i'm i'm that it makes me think of is what does like what's the

05:08:52.360 benefit of dating a 35 year old over a 25 year old because i mean what's you better what's the benefit

05:08:59.620 of the 25 only because their body yes yes because because physical attractiveness is important to

05:09:06.800 both men and women women women care about various physical characteristics height is the guy does he

05:09:16.080 have a full head of hair is he muscular uh penis size there's all kinds of things that women care

05:09:21.600 about when it comes to physical attributes and most of the things that women care about in men when it

05:09:26.960 comes to physical attributes are completely out of men's control whereas most of the things that men

05:09:32.200 care about when it comes to women's physical attributes typically weight is 100 women's control

05:09:36.900 but in any case yes both men and women care about physical looks and beauty and attractiveness

05:09:42.920 it is what it is and it happens to be the case that the that men view say women i i think the

05:09:51.700 typical thing is between 18 to 25 as the most physically attractive like i think i was and i think this

05:10:00.160 applies to men too to some degree i think i was better looking 10 years ago i'm starting to get

05:10:07.020 wrinkles like you know my skin's not as taut or whatever um i'm not as in good physical shape as

05:10:14.060 i used to be 10 years ago it is what it is like but people on the meet like 35s they're like looking

05:10:21.320 already for someone to get married you know if they're not married by that time they're looking

05:10:25.280 for someone i believe so so the guy that i just recently dated he was 37 and he will treat me like

05:10:33.140 super good and everything it just didn't work out he was like too far for me he treated you super good

05:10:38.720 did you treat him super good yeah oh but you're you're that's a 13 year age gap i thought that's

05:10:44.500 impossible for someone who's as young as you to treat a guy nicely because you're young i didn't say

05:10:49.940 that no that's what i'm saying but that's the argument that other people are trying to make

05:10:53.140 that because of your youth you are not capable of being a good it's just about maturity

05:10:58.620 24 not 21 oh okay three years would you have still been a good partner three years ago

05:11:03.580 probably not oh okay okay well okay then but look i i think it's um shit i'm losing my train of

05:11:13.920 thought here uh you're just not ready when you're 21 that when you're 30 parties whatever you don't

05:11:21.500 want to in a girl that's what they're not not all 21 year olds are out drinking and partying most of

05:11:27.640 them sure but that's not the type of girl i want that's not the type of girl i want to begin with

05:11:32.420 right so if i if i were to find a 22 year old girl that doesn't drink doesn't really party

05:11:37.240 probably she's not mature enough you know i disagree there's but will you admit this like

05:11:42.140 we we this is this is like uh probably we have people in their late 20s we have people in their

05:11:47.740 30s here um you're 40 correct i bet you know a ton of immature motherfucking 40 year old men don't

05:11:54.820 you yep even older right yep i bet every single girl here knows a guy who's just your age or even

05:12:01.580 older than you that's fucking immature i bet you know some girls that are your age that are fucking

05:12:07.060 immature right so age has nothing to do with your maturity my view is my view is is i would rather

05:12:14.660 like i can find a i can i can find a girl who's 23 that's more mature than a 33 year old

05:12:20.960 true it's the experience and the maturity like level i guess here do you have a response because

05:12:29.480 i think i've thoroughly angered you i'm no i'm not do you think i'm angry oh no you've kind of you've

05:12:35.940 kind of been grimacing a little bit i think i'm i think it's i think it's sad because well i mean i

05:12:41.440 think what if if what you said is true that we bought into a lie then you have a generation of like

05:12:46.340 10 a 10 year gap of the generation of women that it was out of our control well it wasn't out of

05:12:52.400 our control but i guess yeah we bought into a lie but you've been told a lie to focus on your career

05:12:57.040 and disregard men but i think i'm higher value than i was when i was 21 first of all i think i was a

05:13:03.540 late bloomer so i actually think i i started i was not cute until i was like 25 anyways but whatever

05:13:08.200 wait question for you question for you though and i know you guys gotta leave one last question if you

05:13:12.600 guys got to totally get it so you're 29 now right yeah do you think you're more physically

05:13:18.220 attractive now than you were 10 years ago i actually do do you think you will be more physically

05:13:24.040 attractive at 39 then probably not unless i have kim kardashian's facialist we'll go around the table

05:13:29.980 so do you think two part question do you think that and this is for the whole panel do you think

05:13:35.020 you're more physically attractive now than you were 10 years ago and do you think you will be more

05:13:39.520 physically attractive in 10 years from now starting with you go ahead no and no so wait no

05:13:48.340 so you're more physically attractive today than 10 years ago before oh 10 years ago so at 29 or 28

05:13:55.080 versus 38 yeah and then you you're more track you think you'll you're more attractive now than you

05:14:02.060 will be at 48 i think i'm cuter but not more physically attractive sure what about you yes and

05:14:10.800 no okay also i should re change the question a little bit i shouldn't make it 10 so are you well

05:14:17.160 you're 24 so 14 like yeah that's of course i'm looking better um were you what i think at 24 it's

05:14:27.200 not do you think you'll be more attractive in 10 years no okay what about you you're you're 40 do

05:14:33.920 you think you were more attractive at 30 no i think i'm more attractive you think you're more

05:14:38.860 attractive now do you think you'll be more attractive at 50 than you are now maybe who knows

05:14:43.520 come on my family members my family members are very young they they all look young so okay so you

05:14:50.480 were not as attractive you're more attractive now at 40 versus when you were 30 i feel like i am yeah

05:14:58.960 okay and you'll be more attractive at i'm not saying i'll be more attractive but i mean i don't know

05:15:03.840 no but that's the question do you think you'll be more attractive at 50 than you are now at 40

05:15:07.180 no probably not oh okay all right what about you i think i'm more attractive you're 27 yes let's say uh

05:15:14.080 do you think you're more attractive at 18 or now at 27 now at 27 okay do you think you're you'll be

05:15:19.280 more attractive at 37 versus now at 27 i hope so but i think it's not about whether you hope it's

05:15:26.220 what you um do you think you'll be more attractive when you're 37 than now at 27 no okay you're i think

05:15:36.960 you already answered what about you you 34 i was more attractive when i was 24 more attractive do you

05:15:41.940 think you'll be more attractive at 44 versus now at 34 oh um i'm gonna be less attractive at 44

05:15:48.380 and then uh well you're 24 so whatever uh do you do you think you'll be more attractive at 34

05:15:53.640 than that how you are now 24

05:15:56.400 oh okay i think can we unmute him has it been 10 minutes okay i'll just say i'll give 500 to get

05:16:06.200 me out of mute mode i think the real question you should ask every single woman on the panel is that

05:16:11.000 are you a better woman are you more prepared for a relationship now than you were 10 years ago

05:16:17.220 do you feel like that you would be better more equipped and more uh advanced as a woman of course

05:16:23.920 better to your husband 10 years from now than you are today oh yeah and i think every woman to say like

05:16:29.320 i'm i'm smarter i'm wiser i'm a better woman i'm more prepared now than i was 10 years ago your looks may

05:16:37.140 diminish slightly some if you work out you can control that you can work out you still look good

05:16:42.320 still look fresh that may deteriorate a little bit but the value that you add to a man may increase

05:16:47.600 can i ask you a question though so for you before you met your wife when you were still single

05:16:52.880 um would you let's say there was a woman who all the personality criteria like insanely amazing

05:17:03.640 all metrics just emotional intelligence pleasant feminine she took care of you nurturing caring

05:17:12.360 all that stuff but she was morbidly obese brandon males donated 99 dollars thank you brandon males

05:17:21.000 brian you have the wrong brandon on the panel two i missed some of what my fellow brandon said but i do

05:17:27.680 think guys online take a lot of the red pill stuff to the absolute extreme we just need a good women

05:17:34.160 regardless of age yes brandon males thank you thank you brandon um look i i don't think i think

05:17:42.140 things are obviously aren't black and white when it comes to dating um i think there's room for to be

05:17:49.320 flexible but so perfect woman but she's morbidly obese well you say morbidly obese i mean how bad

05:17:57.540 are you talking three because they're 330 330 330 350 about 350 well you know that's that's kind of a

05:18:06.020 hypothetical you mean if my wife became three no no like because because like she became because because

05:18:11.380 if she's big like that i don't think that i'll i'll talk to her in the first place i probably wouldn't

05:18:15.220 get a chance to know her but but let's say you you got to know this woman morbidly obese she's

05:18:23.560 amazing amazing great woman but she's morbidly obese well do she do she exercise can we go do

05:18:33.000 things can we be active together i'm saying it's a hard push i don't i i don't want to be with a

05:18:38.900 woman that's no you can't be i'm using extreme to try to articulate a point but i guess what i'm

05:18:44.300 saying is like there has to be physical there has to be physical attract but you you you act like

05:18:49.280 women in a 20 29 30 aren't good looking there's a lot i'm not saying that no no i'm saying there's

05:18:54.820 a lot of good women who work out and take care of themselves i'm not saying that women really good

05:18:59.300 in their 30s 100 just and just a point of clarification i'm not saying that bear in mind

05:19:03.940 that i've in recent history dated women some women who are older than me i've dated uh women around my age

05:19:10.780 range a woman who's 30 35 40 even 45 can be very physically attractive 100 that's not what i'm

05:19:19.620 saying but if you're making comparisons like a woman who's 35 her at 25 is just more physically

05:19:29.060 attractive no i wouldn't say i wouldn't say 25 35 but i will say after 35 it could it could kind of

05:19:36.800 get dicey i know i know a lot of women that gabriella union anyone's she's like 50 and she

05:19:42.180 gabrielle union i know a lot i know a lot of women that if you keep up with yourself 25 and 35 is not

05:19:48.300 gonna be a make or break sure but i guess look it's there i think there's another component too

05:19:54.900 though i think it again it does come back a little bit to baggage trauma you've had an extra

05:20:01.060 10 years of relationship trauma and if you're looking at this look when she was sorry let me just

05:20:07.740 you before you became a christian you like from my perspective you had sex with men now you're

05:20:15.780 waiting until marriage like oh my god respect donated 99 girl in red dress i'm 23 was up good

05:20:27.040 looking also don't know why officer tatum is getting hate when he's speaking truth young men are afraid

05:20:33.520 to admit fault and the red pill community make it worse because now they be thinking all women are bad

05:20:38.800 which is sad listen you're a very attractive woman i'm sure you're not gonna have trouble finding a

05:20:45.340 guy uh however look it's just i'm we're having a conversation here when it comes to dating i'm

05:20:51.160 just trying to make the argument that yes it is the it is the case maybe this is an uncomfortable

05:20:56.780 truth don't shoot the messenger yes men are attracted to physically to young women yeah but you are such an

05:21:06.720 influence like your show is so influential you are very influential guy okay and if you actually and

05:21:13.180 and you don't even practice that which is what we learned like you said most of the women you've

05:21:18.280 dated have been around your age and i just think if more of that i wish i'm not suggesting that men

05:21:23.240 exclusively date i know you're not but i think the perpetuation of that narrative like even as you're

05:21:29.420 explaining and i'm not asking i'm not saying you should lie i just think i think it's great that

05:21:33.480 you're sharing well i think your points are incredible brandon but i think also like the

05:21:37.680 the fact that no but the fact that you're sharing that you actually mainly date people around your

05:21:43.720 age like that's good because it can just be such a toxic narrative that like they only want i mean

05:21:49.680 that it can feel that way sometimes yeah i get probably over no i get what the young dudes are

05:21:55.180 experiencing on the red i watch these shows i get it man i was in a dating world and i had my insecurities

05:22:00.940 about dating women with too much baggage and older women and younger women i had those insecurities but

05:22:06.120 when i matured i realized that man that stuff is will send you down a negative path you you really

05:22:12.080 have to focus on individuality generally speaking you're right brian you're right i mean the general

05:22:17.820 average woman is not as attractive as she was 10 years ago the average woman probably got more baggage

05:22:23.540 than she did 10 years ago but if you if you are an individual looking for success and love you have

05:22:30.400 to be open-minded to meeting a woman and hearing her side of the story and don't be a don't be a

05:22:35.860 a simp to the point where you're getting taken advantage of all the time you don't have to go on

05:22:40.140 dates all the time young men need to be focused on their career i have a young man that's talking

05:22:44.240 about dating some girls he's in his 20s i'm like man look you should wait until you're 30 a pretty

05:22:48.540 face won't take you far or to be successful won't help you you know right i like when like you say the

05:22:54.680 girl is and i'm not exclusively talking about you but you say a girl in her 20s yeah she's physically

05:22:58.980 better but some of them are psycho earlier you said that pretty girls are psycho yeah but at the

05:23:05.180 same time but we're looking at looks so if you say i'm only going to go on looks and therefore

05:23:10.060 they'll lead me down the path of younger women a lot of these younger women are broken they haven't

05:23:14.520 dealt with their issues and they're psycho and a lot of really really good looking women have a lot

05:23:20.300 of baggage and issues so i i think that just don't get caught up in it that's all i'm saying i think

05:23:25.960 what you're saying is invaluable to say and i think young men need to understand the climate that

05:23:29.740 they live in but just don't get caught up in in demonizing women because if you if it was your

05:23:35.780 daughter how would you feel if it was your mom and she's 45 years old and you're like mama you ain't

05:23:41.480 never gonna meet no man at 45 no man won't you you you can't have kids it's like i wouldn't tell my

05:23:46.300 mama that i'd be like look there's a man that that wants you there's a man that's in a position in his

05:23:50.420 life that's a little different he don't want kids sure you know you do you mean like how would i feel

05:23:55.520 if like i had a daughter and she was dating an older guy is that kind of like what you're

05:24:00.220 no i'm saying as a like what i tell young men is what i want the young man to be to my daughter

05:24:07.660 so i wouldn't tell him to feel a certain way about a woman because i wouldn't want young men to think

05:24:13.320 of my daughter like that if she went to college got a degree yeah oh i i want to come back to this

05:24:18.580 really quick i know that they have to go last question for you guys we have a four-hour drive last

05:24:22.880 question oh wait hold on wait this is this okay i'll try to get through this really quick

05:24:27.140 stifler he's got to know so we got to ask everybody ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one

05:24:31.620 to ten what do you rate yourself what do you rate your looks on your a scale of one to ten i think i'm

05:24:35.840 eight okay nine seven eight six seven thirteen thirteen eight oh that's not even thirteen

05:24:48.980 uh sure so is it is it is it all about like just physical stuff

05:24:55.920 right looks just looks looks on a one to ten thirteen okay so i would rate myself as a seven

05:25:04.440 but i was born with two uteruses so i count it twice and some days wait two uteruses some days um

05:25:12.100 two vaginas two no just two cervixes if i had a husband you could touch them both kind of thing

05:25:17.280 wait if what i said i have two cervixes if i had a husband he could touch them both but touch them

05:25:23.380 both which is how basically because i've heard some women have two yeah no not two not two no so

05:25:32.900 can you have like two babies at the same time but not they're not twins at the same that's interesting

05:25:37.980 that's wild so that's kind of you could you could you could field a baseball team and i stand by the

05:25:44.280 okay good to know good to know so you're a 13 for because of the baby making thing because it's too

05:25:57.480 two double yeah that's something she's worth that's a mass right there

05:26:03.780 women man right there well i'm i'm i don't know okay um and oh uh okay since we talked about body

05:26:11.080 count uh just does should body count matter yes or no no yes yes no yeah yes yes yes it should count

05:26:25.340 yes uh what's everyone's body count um i'd rather not say okay five i'm not saying

05:26:38.480 range do you guys want to do a range like one to ten i think it's safe i don't think anybody that i

05:26:45.640 know is watching right now um i i want to say over 50 more than 50 okay what about you way under that

05:26:52.360 way under 50 so 45 no

05:26:55.020 okay uh under 10 um i have a low to medium range by my standards

05:27:03.780 seven no oh that's oh okay no yeah three less than my age i'm just gonna say that

05:27:16.500 um so 23 that's significantly less than my age well because you're 24 so yeah that leaves it up to

05:27:25.060 interpretation i don't know multiply it by three okay well for all the body counts okay i know you

05:27:31.780 guys got to take off if you guys got to take off go for it um i do want to try to wrap up here really

05:27:36.860 quick on the uh if you guys want to stay you're welcome but i know you guys got a long drive

05:27:40.560 nice to meet you guys thank you it's been fun it was fun uh let's see just on i mean look the

05:27:50.280 whole age gap thing i would just say um how dare a man be attracted to a woman at the height of her

05:27:56.960 physical attractiveness that is not what i'm saying fertility and i'm not bitter

05:28:00.500 you're not i'm not bitter maybe a little bit no i'm not bitter i'm i'm afraid you're afraid yeah

05:28:09.220 that all the hot dc uh uh capital uh legislative assistants all the what are they called the uh

05:28:20.100 interns no um you dated congressman no no no senator no state senator no president no president no

05:28:33.440 would you date donald trump uh no it's not your type biden is more your sleepy joe no no i would

05:28:43.180 not obama like if you're single um obama in his prime was i mean oh that's a i mean that's a high

05:28:49.780 quality man i mean i mean why is it on me why is it on me i would date jfk if he wasn't before he

05:28:55.160 was married to jackie jfk okay you'd probably end up getting clipped though if you were in

05:29:00.360 romantically involved with with him right i don't know probably what do you mean like clips

05:29:06.400 oh like clipped

05:29:07.660 because he got assassinated yeah oh

05:29:12.660 jackie didn't she was she was right with him in the car okay i thought you'd want to be like one

05:29:19.140 of the no i would never want to be a side chick i would always want to be main character you wouldn't

05:29:23.160 be the side chick for jfk come on okay yeah you'd be the side chick let's be honest you would definitely

05:29:29.160 be the side chick uh i'm sorry i'm sorry i don't want to have i mean good thing i wasn't born in

05:29:35.860 that time so i don't have to have that tough decision what's it called when companies i it's

05:29:41.360 on the tip of my tongue when the company will hire somebody to advocate for them to politicians it's

05:29:46.400 it's just a lobbyist lobbyist would you date the date lobbyists as long as they're not for big sugar

05:29:52.240 you're not a fan of big sugar i think sugar's what about tobacco would you date like a tobacco

05:29:56.780 lobbyist i would yeah yeah wow you're a terrible no i'm kidding i love tobacco okay good times yeah

05:30:04.900 um would you date a lobbyist what do you lobby for i lobby for aren't you a consultant or something

05:30:11.460 technology and it delivery services yeah uh sure why not nice yeah i'm seeing if we have any other

05:30:19.820 notes here from you i feel like we i gotta say yeah i know because then i sent well okay um well

05:30:24.920 you might be coming on tuesday right if you want me to okay we'll pick it up on tuesday then um the

05:30:30.620 vulnerable thing we can should we hit on vulnerable really quick you said it's good when guys show

05:30:35.500 emotions it's healthy oh yeah brandon might have some really good points in this i think uh like

05:30:40.000 some i've heard it discussed that like girls don't like it when guys cry or anything like that i

05:30:46.100 i think it shows they don't i think it shows like that you're in a healthy place because some

05:30:50.820 things there are like if i just started crying right now like i know you probably what the fuck

05:30:56.660 i did not mean to press that so if i just started crying you're probably like because of the

05:31:03.680 conversation we were having you know yeah you want to know what i would think i would i'd think

05:31:08.380 he's really stressed out maybe his neck hurts because i know you have a reoccurring

05:31:12.680 yeah yeah i got some neck yeah you should come to my church you might get healing for it

05:31:16.740 what we do healings yeah yeah i'm sorry but i'm a man of god but that's not how that works okay

05:31:24.380 all right you don't have faith no it's just like if uh i don't okay whatever i'm not gonna get into

05:31:31.240 that but um i think that i think that um men should not show all of their emotions to women

05:31:40.640 because women judge men very harshly on that i don't i would never cry in front of my wife

05:31:46.980 really i just wouldn't what if your kid died that's a different thing i mean i would try to

05:31:53.200 i would try not to cry in front of my wife if my kid died no yeah i'm i'm i'm her foundation i'm her

05:32:01.080 strong point i cry on my own but if everything is going south i want my wife to know i'm strong in

05:32:07.920 that situation and i can be i don't have to cry i can do that on another time my wife is expecting

05:32:13.940 me to be strong in these in these times i thought about this so i heard a guy say this is that when

05:32:18.680 my father passes away which everybody's parent is going to pass away i'm not going to cry at his

05:32:22.560 funeral i don't want to cry at his funeral i want my father to know that i'm strong enough

05:32:27.640 to stand up and have this conversation i've compartmentalized what has happened i can do that

05:32:32.780 on another time at my father's funeral i'm gonna stand up and be strong for everybody in the

05:32:36.700 building and that's not a hard that's not a bad thing to do you know i like i don't want my wife

05:32:42.100 to be afraid just say something tragic happened so you don't think she looks to me to be the stable

05:32:47.220 person what do you think about men um thinking that woman's emotion not matter women's emotions

05:32:56.960 don't matter don't matter yeah i've heard it me and say that yeah i've heard i mean what do you

05:33:02.840 mean like if you make an emotional decision a man shouldn't acquiesce to your emotional decisions

05:33:08.240 you say oh i feel this way oh it doesn't matter how you feel it does matter i mean women's uh

05:33:13.320 instincts to have emotions is one of the greatest things that humanity can have that's why you need

05:33:19.400 both you need somebody who's stable logical and you also need the emotional component that's why god

05:33:24.580 made adam and eve that's why when you're married the best situation for children is a mother and father

05:33:29.320 you do need the emotional component women have instincts that men don't have and that emotionalism

05:33:34.400 kind of attracts that but you have to be careful to be not being too overly emotional so you think

05:33:41.000 would you cry in front of your daughter i wouldn't cry in front of anybody because so i asked i mean i

05:33:45.520 would i i will try not to cry in front of anybody there's compulsion for me to cry at times and i will

05:33:52.340 not do it in front of people well i so i you know i had this moment with my dad and it was this summer

05:33:59.120 and we were and we were talking and we each had like a glass of wine or whatever but i was like

05:34:05.260 sharing how it is hard being single and and 29 and just feeling like you're like old and all this

05:34:12.020 stuff and and yeah and so i started crying and and he and he actually started crying yeah i'm sorry

05:34:25.000 she's crying for no reason she has nothing to worry about you in a great position well okay well

05:34:30.720 well anyways so thank you but um and then i was crying and he like and then i look over and he is

05:34:38.320 crying and he's like this is he's like look at me i'm a 65 year old man you're making a 65 year old

05:34:42.460 man cry but it was like he saw my pain and really felt my pain because i i was like oh he wants me to

05:34:47.760 be happy and in that like that spoke so much to me like because i was like ah he cares about me so much

05:34:54.160 that's your father i feel like if it was a boyfriend or a husband in that i think it's

05:35:01.820 because i mean obviously there's a different relationship that you have with your father

05:35:06.000 then i've never i haven't seen my father i saw my father cry one time and it was at his father's

05:35:13.660 film so you think if a man shows his emotion makes him uh less man no no i just think men shouldn't do

05:35:21.060 it i don't think it make you less of a man if you your emotions like for instance if something

05:35:25.240 tragic happened and i was in the room with my wife and it caused me to start crying or something

05:35:30.700 i'm not gonna be like i'm throwing out of the room you gotta leave the room you can't see me like

05:35:35.080 this it's just that i know when emotions happen to me and i refrain from exposing that emotion in

05:35:42.860 front of people you have never cried from a like a breakup or anything like that like in front of

05:35:47.660 the girl not from a breakup come on i've never cried from a breakup i've been upset about a

05:35:53.020 break i've never cried no men don't really go on youtube don't have that emotion to cry i've had

05:36:00.820 them here crying in front of every that's why you're not with them right now i like will watch

05:36:05.400 um what you say you had men cry in front of you that's why you're not with them sometimes i look up

05:36:10.180 videos of like army dads coming home and surprising their kids just because i want to cry and then i'll

05:36:14.780 watch it and i'll cry and i've i've teared up and cried over stuff like that but i don't do that

05:36:21.180 in front of people it's touching and wholesome i don't think it's anything

05:36:25.820 let me just be clear if a man if a man decides that that's what he wants to do in front of his

05:36:36.720 woman oh my god then that's what they want to do for me you suffer i think you suffer in silence

05:36:42.940 that's what i think and when i say suffering signs i don't mean have these negative thoughts

05:36:47.480 in your mind and you don't tell anybody what i'm saying is that there are times where i i'm

05:36:51.080 emotionally stressed out about certain things and and i and i deal with them with my homies i deal

05:36:56.680 with them by myself my wife does not need to be exposed to me breaking let me just let me just

05:37:02.220 doesn't have to be exposed just say just say that just say that uh there's a you know you see what's

05:37:07.380 happening out see what's happening in israel do you see what's i'm sorry i'm trying to be your

05:37:11.900 hype man you gotta hype me better than that i'm sorry i'm sorry you see what's happening do you see

05:37:16.040 what's happening i do good in israel there's a conflict right are we talking and i'm not going

05:37:21.300 to get too deep into that but there's a conflict and people are having to make tough decisions men are

05:37:26.300 going to have to step up and make tough decisions if if the if the that happened in america

05:37:31.500 and yeah i may feel fear it may there be some there may be some emotions that i feel

05:37:36.180 i cannot display that and your wife looks for you for protect right i'm the one just just imagine

05:37:43.620 you go on a war you got the guy on the front line and he crying yeah you're like oh wait a minute dude

05:37:48.160 we gonna lose this are you like like my dudes we could do swat hits and some of the dudes that they

05:37:53.720 were tough they were hard around the edge man and you don't see them sweat and it gives everybody

05:37:58.840 encouragement to be like man that's the baddest mother then that mean i need to be bad but i will

05:38:03.920 tell people if you need to go and and cry do that stuff on the side i'm not telling you hold it in

05:38:09.680 but go do that on the side i've cried in the car by myself i've i've cried at the smoking cigars by

05:38:14.540 myself but you have cried i cry and i cry because i had an egg i cry a lot he has never well that's what

05:38:20.880 he told me he lied everybody cries sometimes man i cry i get you got to get that out your system

05:38:25.520 especially when i when i be praying and i'm getting deep and i'm i get that out of my system

05:38:30.300 so i can be strong for my wife and for for a lot of other people so it's nothing wrong with crying

05:38:35.500 bro you just can't do that in front of your woman you each you need to try not to do that in front

05:38:40.100 of other people to show your and related to the the dating thing is yes if you if you're a guy and

05:38:45.900 you do cry in front of your woman your girlfriend your wife whatever i think you'll probably get a

05:38:52.420 little bit more leeway the longer you've been with her but like the earlier on it is i would say that

05:38:59.220 a lot of women are going to lose attraction for you if you cry in front of them because women

05:39:04.140 weak men are viewed as unattractive and you can make the argument that crying can be viewed as a

05:39:16.460 weakness and you look soft when you cry now and the reality is is that

05:39:24.060 i'm sure some guys have had the experience of being vulnerable in front of a woman or to a woman

05:39:31.900 and she either used that information against him later on in the relationship or she just immediately

05:39:39.520 lost some attraction to him the breakup might not come immediately but it's gonna

05:39:45.560 it's gonna start like it's just women are attracted to strong men women are not attracted to weak men

05:39:54.680 and so if there's this there's this thing oh guys should be emotional in front of women men should be

05:40:01.720 vulnerable in front of women i it just it's not the case it doesn't like women will lose attraction for

05:40:07.980 you so that's you want to know why men aren't vulnerable it's because when we are you lose

05:40:15.780 attraction for us well you haven't been vulnerable in front of me because you would feel very affirmed

05:40:20.400 i that sounds i can't say this word on youtube but that sounds like kind of that word that i can't say

05:40:26.020 on youtube i just want i would feel very affirmed what would you you'd hold me what no no pre-marital

05:40:32.620 snuggling but but or cuddling but i i don't know i think it's not i i like i think weak when i think

05:40:41.180 weak i think like you know you're always sick all the time you're telling me about that and you're

05:40:45.040 like oh work is always so hard which i totally get that your work is hard your job is hard but it's

05:40:49.460 like when it's always that i i think men should more focus on their positives of like hey i did this

05:40:54.100 and it felt good i don't know that's just what i would i want let me just add one thing when it

05:40:59.580 comes to men showing or displaying vulnerability i think this is also can be evidenced by for example

05:41:05.480 if a guy approaches you would you prefer he approaches you in a confident manner

05:41:10.460 or would you prefer if he it's maybe not prefer isn't the right term which guy would you be more

05:41:17.000 attracted to what makes the pq hold on wait pq what's that pussy quiver what the fuck i have never

05:41:24.000 heard of that that never heard that is blasphemous you need to repent that uh it's not it's not

05:41:30.800 pussy christian woman by the way pussy quivering no wow i'm gonna it's more mental than anything i've

05:41:39.200 never heard p pq really oh does he make the pq that's yeah now i'm thinking of quivering pussy for

05:41:47.420 some reason i don't know okay um oh man what does that even look like okay so would you

05:41:53.860 prefer a guy sorry not prefer who would you be more receptive no no no it's not attractive

05:42:00.660 receptive which which do you think would be more attractive a guy who approaches you and he's just

05:42:06.900 totally confident he's not being cocky he's not being rude or anything he's just really confident

05:42:11.800 maintaining good eye contact just confident right or a guy who approaches you and you can tell he's not

05:42:19.740 being creepy or anything but he's a little nervous maybe he's a little shaky his eye contact really

05:42:24.940 isn't on point which which do you prefer i mean the confident okay yeah so how you can make the argument

05:42:32.560 though that a guy who's stepping to you and he's maybe a bit nervous a little shaky oh that's more

05:42:39.900 courage well the what i'm trying to make is that's him in a vulnerable state ah yet most women are not

05:42:47.900 going to be attracted to that guy even though he's displaying a vulnerable he's in a vulnerable state

05:42:53.100 so wow i didn't see that one coming all right all right well all right brian that was pretty good

05:42:59.320 right but so this women like men i was thinking like women like men who are confident and so

05:43:06.980 that's a perfect example of a guy being vulnerable so this whole trope of women liking men who are

05:43:15.500 vulnerable is actually bullshit because when if a man is vulnerable and he approaches you and he's a

05:43:20.600 little nervous you're like almost repulsed by it you're like oh what the fuck you want a confident

05:43:27.400 guy to step to you correctly i try to honor it and even men who divulge their emotions and feelings to

05:43:33.220 you right you you're talking to a guy and he just comes straight out and say i'm i'm really i really

05:43:39.020 like you so much and you're so this this and that and you know some women get repulsed by that he like

05:43:45.460 dang this dude is just like doing too much too soon and that's being vulnerable by telling the woman how you

05:43:50.320 really feel but sometimes women don't want to hear how you really feel they kind of want one want you to

05:43:54.940 be kind of mysterious they want to feel like they're chasing you a little bit and sometimes men become

05:43:59.200 vulnerable because they're like i can be myself to this woman i'm gonna tell her how i really feel

05:44:03.880 you know what i think you're so beautiful like i really want to be serious with you and you're like

05:44:08.100 dang it was like it's only a second date and this guy's doing too much you're so right so you have to

05:44:12.620 reserve so as men you have to kind of reserve that um that is true i just feel like julia getting some

05:44:19.800 i just feel like there's just a time and place like i and obviously like obviously when people men have

05:44:27.700 their own trauma and i feel like obviously obviously with your therapist or your psychologist or psychiatrist

05:44:33.260 it's it's a vulnerable safe place that's not your wife that's not your partner but i've seen um couples

05:44:39.800 when they do have breakthroughs and sometimes when they do cry and it's not often they're not like crying

05:44:45.940 the guy's crying all the time and that sounds really like a word i can't say on youtube no that

05:44:51.280 wait wait just one second okay um and um sometimes um the wife sometimes needs to see that if like

05:44:58.840 there was like something that a discrepancy or something or he broke down and actually because

05:45:04.000 she hadn't seen emotion in such a long time so you know in some of those times um you it is nice to

05:45:12.100 see the husband cry because they had she hadn't seen emotion in him i'm just saying that sometimes

05:45:16.940 it's okay to see emotion but there's nothing wrong with two people having a conversation about it

05:45:21.320 though you know like maybe maybe as a man you need to talk to your wife like hey are you comfortable

05:45:25.200 with this maybe it's just for me i grew up a little harder than that i grew up without emotions like

05:45:30.140 that and and men don't really show that emotion i never had men that cried and stuff in front of me

05:45:35.220 you know it just never happened football coach wasn't gonna cry in front of you

05:45:38.500 you know right you know when you end up on the police department dudes mean you got to hold

05:45:42.480 together man they should tell us suffering silence you know you you know you getting smoked doing pt

05:45:48.240 nobody wouldn't hear you cry no i you know so you know so that's that's kind of how i feel i don't

05:45:53.800 think i don't i'm not saying it's perfect i'm just saying for me you reserve your emotions i would i want

05:45:59.400 my son i would rather my son if he was an adult come cry to me than for him to cry in front of his wife

05:46:05.340 right interesting no and i and that's what i was just quick saying like it's not like crying all

05:46:10.360 that she just wanted sometimes to see that like something or something or describe yeah um we ought

05:46:17.580 to try to wrap up here let me do a couple of our last chats and then we're gonna get out of here

05:46:22.380 we have uh okay okay man the you guys gotta be nice to the guest here okay uh he's calling you a

05:46:29.120 bonafide simp you don't understand anything about female nature no man should take advice from you

05:46:36.640 do you have a response to barrister davis well i'm married he's married so if anybody should take

05:46:43.700 advice from me and i'm not saying you gotta listen to everything i say but at least balance out the

05:46:48.300 curb you know you listen to people that have something different to say to me then listen to

05:46:51.380 what i have to say and then try it out and see which one works i would rather listen to a married

05:46:55.860 man talk about being married then listen to a person who's single that's me true don't listen

05:47:03.060 to me guys i'm not saying don't listen like somebody telling me about how to become wealthy

05:47:07.620 somebody telling me how to become wealthy and they're going check the check who you think i

05:47:12.080 would listen to probably the wealthy person than the person that's trying to create wealth and i'm

05:47:16.820 not saying anything about you man i think you're incredible and i think there's a lot of men in your

05:47:20.600 position because everybody's at different stages and you know you go four years ago i was single

05:47:24.940 so i'm not acting like i'm above the fray but what i'm saying be open-minded to hear from a person

05:47:31.440 who's had those experiences and it has and now i am married i've been married for four years experience

05:47:37.320 and i have some of those experiences i used to be here and now i'm here so just be open-minded i don't

05:47:42.500 get mad if somebody call me a simple it it's irrelevant name calling i think the points are clear and

05:47:49.640 everybody has different opinions right yeah don't use mine man hey if you marry using yours then do

05:47:55.040 yours all right we have a monzip ismail is it mir 300 i don't know what uh what is mir what's currency

05:48:05.900 is this mir is it mar my and mar maybe it's short for something can anybody in the chat tell me what

05:48:14.660 that currency is can anybody in the chat tell me what currency that is um okay my and mar my and

05:48:20.860 mar that's what i guess what's a grift or my and mar a grift or my and mar

05:48:25.420 me and mar all right you can you can hide it uh i'm 40 5 5 nerdy type but i'm glad now happily

05:48:33.840 married my wife works but at the end of the day helps in the household still three kids one boy two

05:48:38.160 girls oh she's younger oh my decision is veto still she can give option but then again i'm from

05:48:45.000 myanmar wait my my decision is veto still i'm just i think he thinks he has veto power so it's like

05:48:54.520 whatever he says goes oh like he's uh head of the household okay i see i see what he's saying okay

05:48:59.120 well thank you all the way from myanmar wasn't there recently a coup there i don't know um appreciate

05:49:04.400 it i appreciate it uh gorton's fisherman thank you man red why are you so bitter

05:49:10.480 yes you bought into a lie you're attractive christian you're not even 30 yet yes men generally

05:49:16.300 like younger women for looks but it's also attitude that matters i'm 29 but women same age seem to have

05:49:22.060 chips on their shoulders they got a little chip you don't see i've seen women i cry every week how

05:49:31.020 could i have a chip on my shoulder i mean you seem pretty pleasant but there's there are definitely

05:49:36.580 women who are as they get older they get pretty fucking jaded and the young lady that was sitting

05:49:42.960 there she says she's done with men and all men are crap that sounds more bitter and jaded the young

05:49:47.880 lady and she was 40 though she was 40 she was 40 so she kind of proving the point probably why she

05:49:53.420 put it away um swiss linus with the chf is this swiss wait chf what is chf frank chf currency

05:50:04.800 is that swiss yeah oh my god i'm bro two for two um thank you brandon i find it ridiculous how

05:50:12.980 single people like redhead pearl shame girls because they are not virgins not married yet pearl is not

05:50:17.360 married childless and not the virgin herself uh i've had enough of the red pill virus greetings from

05:50:22.880 europe swiss linus uh hey there you have it yeah um i think it's just getting old you know like

05:50:31.260 people that are single and incredibly single and they say some of the most outlandish things like

05:50:35.920 i love pearl i was supposed to go on her show at some point but i i sometimes she's just she's

05:50:40.740 going overboard she's got some hot takes she said women shouldn't women shouldn't vote i i get it but

05:50:45.620 that's crazy to think women shouldn't yeah i don't think she has a lot of fat facts to back up her

05:50:50.260 claims yeah i would like more did you see the one with ethan and her that interview that was kind

05:50:56.660 of like i i think some people they get caught up in this movement and they fall down a rabbit hole i'm

05:51:02.200 not saying that that's necessarily her all the time she say some good stuff but but she do she do say

05:51:07.700 some crazy stuff like fresh and fit like i wish i could pull the clip on my phone what they what they

05:51:11.340 told that young man earlier and i just couldn't believe it i think it's on my um my story on my

05:51:16.880 instagram i can't i can't believe that they would tell a young man to have a side check

05:51:20.700 it's crazy um well we uh we've gone way over so we have to uh wrap up now but guys last call hit

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05:52:10.540 everyone who super chats donates and supports the show big thank you to the wonderful panel

05:52:14.420 tonight appreciate it guys go check out uh the officer tatum on youtube uh youtube's your primary

05:52:21.640 platform right yeah i have them 2.7 million or something on there yeah so check them out you've

05:52:27.460 reacted to the show a couple times i love your show thank you man appreciate it thank you so much

05:52:30.960 for coming on really appreciate it uh big thank you the panel again any woman who want to be on the

05:52:36.480 show dm at whatever on instagram we will be live again sunday or excuse me tuesday my bad because

05:52:42.140 today's sunday tuesday at 5 p.m pacific where we may have julia yeah you'll have me we might have her

05:52:49.900 back on so we can wrap up on some of the uh other topics uh let's see and i'm gonna those of you on

05:52:56.200 twitch i'm gonna go have you guys raid lmgd right now so that raid oh hold on it takes 10 seconds

05:53:02.660 let me just double check here so yeah guys tuesday 5 p.m pacific we'll be back we got a very

05:53:09.180 good show for you got some good guests coming uh i mean fingers crossed assuming they don't flake

05:53:13.340 and starting the raid now over on twitch all right guys thank you for tuning in good night see you next

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Whatever Podcast - October 09, 2023

The Officer Tatum DESTROYS Whatever Podcast？! ｜ Dating Talk #107

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