Alex Jones Show - 20040611_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:26.000 You know, it seems like yesterday was Monday, but now it's already Friday.

00:00:32.000 I guess as you get older, time just accelerates.

00:00:36.000 The busier you are, the faster time goes by.

00:00:39.000 I mean, the years feel like heartbeats.

00:00:46.000 Seems like just yesterday I started my fight against the New World Order.

00:00:50.000 At least it feels like that today.

00:00:52.000 Sometimes it feels like a thousand years ago.

00:00:55.000 Welcome, my friends.

00:00:56.000 It is Friday, the 11th day of June 2004.

00:01:02.000 And they're getting ready to lay Ronald Reagan to rest, our 40th president.

00:01:09.000 And I don't think I've ever seen such media coverage of an event of this nature.

00:01:16.000 So I guess we can talk a little bit about it today if you'd like to.

00:01:19.000 It's Wide Open Phones, Open Line Friday.

00:01:21.000 And yes, I do have a couple guests coming on.

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00:01:35.000 I really respect his opinions.

00:01:37.000 We'll be talking about the supposed upcoming terror attacks that the globalists are sure to launch, unless we expose who stands to gain from terror and who's carried out the past terror attacks, who's joining us in the second hour.

00:01:48.000 In the third hour, one of the folks from the Sunshine Project that researches government documents, And does a lot of Freedom of Information Act requests.

00:01:58.000 We're going to be covering race-specific bio-weapons and biological weapons generally.

00:02:03.000 Because the government claims this big program, BioShield, this 5.8 billion, Bush wanted 6.4 billion, he got 5.8 billion, to build three dozen level four bio-weapons labs, many of them in your town or city.

00:02:20.000 And the Baltimore News a few years ago called it, you know, facilities that would produce thousands of gallons of liquid death, I believe was the quote.

00:02:34.000 Ebola, race-specific weapons, you name it.

00:02:38.000 Weaponized smallpox.

00:02:41.000 Gearing up, and we have PNAC What?

00:02:44.000 Back in 2000, in their September release, Nick Cheney talking about Saddam isn't a threat, he's a convenient pretext to secure the oil supplies, it'll be a great military launch base. 0.74

00:02:57.000 In that same Rebuilding America's Defense's September 2000 document, that's on their website right now, they don't even hide this, PNAC.info, that we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bio-weapons.

00:03:12.000 And of course, the group I really respect that told us about the B-2 bomber five years before it was announced in the late eighties, Jane's Weapons Encyclopedia, out of England, has put out alerts and warnings, which you never really see them do, that the US, England, and Israel, as well as Russia, have been developing these for decades. 0.86

00:03:37.000 And we're talking about bioweapons that will kill Every black person on earth, every white person on earth, every Asian on earth, it will kill everyone. 1.00

00:03:50.000 Or, they say they have weapons that will kill every human on earth. 0.98

00:03:54.000 And they're just breeding this, and then they, every few years we see a report of, oh the weaponized foot and mouth got released from the big weapons lab in Wilshire, England.

00:04:13.000 By the way, Dr. David Kelly was the head scientist there.

00:04:15.000 Another one of those microbiologists dying.

00:04:18.000 This is the biggest story, really.

00:04:25.000 They just claim, oh, it's a level 4 bioweapons lab, but somebody snuck in and got it.

00:04:29.000 That's what got into the cows and the sheep and they killed 8 million sheep, 4 million cows.

00:04:38.000 The weaponized But Mouth didn't, but the government killing them so it wouldn't spread did.

00:04:45.000 And it was the government that did that.

00:04:48.000 So, they produce the stuff that if it gets out, it'll kill everybody.

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00:08:09.000 Alright, my friends, we're now into the second segment, eight minutes and fifteen seconds into this three-hour global transmission against tyranny, this worldwide broadcast as we blast out on the AM and FM dial from Los Angeles, California, to Providence, Rhode Island, from Austin, Texas, to Denver, Colorado.

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00:09:12.000 Oh my goodness!

00:09:13.000 I've got all this news in front of me, Ronald Reagan lying in state for the last day today, Ray Charles, who I was a fan of, You know, kind of the prototype of Stevie Wonder, I guess.

00:09:24.000 Dead.

00:09:25.000 Died yesterday.

00:09:26.000 A bunch of Iraq news, a bunch of police state big brother, world ID card news, but this happens a lot of times.

00:09:35.000 You know, I start the show and then just suddenly a topic that I've been studying and looking at that I think is really important pops into my head again and I want to talk about that first.

00:09:45.000 Because we are going to get the Sunshine Project They again research secret documents and public documents and do FOIA requests, Freedom of Information Act requests.

00:09:58.000 They're ringing the alarm bell about Western governments, the Russians, the British, the Israelis, the U.S., developing race-specific bioweapons. 0.76

00:10:08.000 We're talking about weaponized viruses and bacteria that are already ninety percent fatal when they're not When they're not weaponized, and now they're weaponizing, where you get a 99% kill rate in many cases, and kills you rather quickly.

00:10:25.000 Because you look at the big picture here, the globalist at the college professor level, let's say at the department head level, most of the big department heads at major universities, UT, Princeton, Yale, MIT, I don't want to say most, but let's say Again, 99%.

00:10:47.000 I really haven't found one of them that isn't.

00:10:50.000 Are members of the Council on Foreign Relations.

00:10:53.000 And then you have mostly heads of banking, and media, and other key positions in government.

00:11:01.000 Most are committee chairmen in the House and Senate.

00:11:04.000 Almost every president.

00:11:06.000 In fact, the last president we had who wasn't CFR, or Trilateral Commissioner CFR, or Bilderberg Group, Uh... was Ronald Reagan but his cabinet was packed with them uh... but uh... again the point I'm trying to make here is that when you're at a department level discussion

00:11:28.000 Because we've gone and sat in on these UT meetings, and almost every symposium is called the New World Order, World War IV, the future of the New World Order, I mean most of the symposiums they have, and literally there'll be like former CI directors, some professors in a room, it's open to the public, but no one shows up.

00:11:47.000 We show up and shoot video of it.

00:11:51.000 It's incredible.

00:11:51.000 They're talking about New World Order this, New World Order that.

00:11:54.000 But when you really get into these discussions, and you read the white papers they write, and you look at what the elite are saying and doing, it's basically this.

00:12:04.000 Bio-weapons are more threatening to society than nuclear weapons, and because of the advances in technology and the cracking of the human genome, That the U.S. 0.94

00:12:16.000 government may have made public in its joint exercise with IBM.

00:12:20.000 Due to this, we now, at this current date, face total extinction at the extreme end of things and billions of people dying on the lesser end of the scale.

00:12:36.000 And because of this great threat, we must have a tyrannical world government.

00:12:40.000 No government must have sovereignty.

00:12:43.000 Every industry must be run and regulated and inspected by armed UN guards in any biotech factory.

00:12:53.000 And we've got to do this to stop total extinction.

00:12:57.000 And let me tell you, that sells the bright 165 IQ graduate students being groomed to be servants inside the New World Order.

00:13:10.000 And this is the first thing they're told.

00:13:13.000 And by the way, over the years I've talked about how one of the biggest radio networks tried to hire me and I met with some of their executives five, six years ago.

00:13:19.000 And this is the spiel I got.

00:13:22.000 And I've talked to others and they've gotten the same spiel.

00:13:28.000 And, you know, to an intelligent, informed person, it sounds reasonable.

00:13:31.000 My gosh, we've got to have world government because of the proliferation of nuclear weapons and chemical weapons, but more importantly, biological weapons, race-specific, or systems that will kill any human that comes in contact with it, period.

00:13:46.000 Though they say statistically, even if it was the most deadly weapon imaginable, some people will have a natural immunity, though a very small percentage.

00:13:53.000 So we look at that picture and we say, okay, Okay, world government is the answer.

00:13:58.000 Alex, then why aren't you for world government?

00:14:00.000 I mean, only world government can stop this from happening. 0.98

00:14:03.000 I mean, it's only a matter of time until some crazy Arab country comes up with some race-specific bioweapon to kill, you know, northern Europeans or Jews or something. 1.00

00:14:17.000 It's only a matter of time until the Chinese do this, and, you know, release it on the Japanese, because they've got race-specific weapons that'll kill certain subgroups. 0.99

00:14:27.000 Certain subgroups have certain genetic markers.

00:14:29.000 You could develop, they brag, and I'm sure they have, race-specific bioweapons that'll kill just one African tribe. 1.00

00:14:39.000 That's why Israel has been studying race-specific weapons, and I've seen white papers on it that have been published publicly by scientific journals, that Israel doesn't want to use them because, well, quite frankly, if you're a real Jew, I mean, really Semitic from that area, you basically have the exact same genetics as the Palestinians or the Arabs. 0.82

00:15:00.000 I mean, it's the same people.

00:15:03.000 Well, you see, But because of most of the people that came back into Israel, they're really, in most cases, three-quarters European, you know, with the blonde hair and the blue eyes, that really is kind of the ruling class over there.

00:15:18.000 They even have a class system.

00:15:19.000 Jewish writers have written about this.

00:15:22.000 And so they don't have to worry.

00:15:24.000 And so what if it kills a couple million Jews?

00:15:27.000 I mean, you know, the globalists financed Hitler to begin with. 0.90

00:15:32.000 Because he helped bring in the New World Order, and a lot of big Jewish interest in banks went along with him at first. 0.94

00:15:37.000 And that's been public, because they're not really there.

00:15:41.000 They don't really care about the Jewish people.

00:15:45.000 It's a very scary system.

00:15:46.000 And this has actually been discussed by a lot of international publications.

00:15:52.000 But, again, we don't just have to worry about Israel.

00:15:54.000 We have to worry about England, who's one of the forerunners in this. 0.53

00:15:57.000 Actually, the Queen of England owns a lot of the stock in the companies that do this. 0.99

00:16:01.000 We have to worry about the U.S.

00:16:02.000 government in those interests.

00:16:03.000 We have to worry about the Russians. 1.00

00:16:05.000 We have to worry about the Chinese. 1.00

00:16:07.000 We have to worry about the Japanese. 1.00

00:16:08.000 We have to worry about the South Africans. 1.00

00:16:10.000 Anywhere you have a high level of technological development, you can have this happen.

00:16:17.000 But the most outspoken and forward-looking, you could say, in all of this has been Israel, and now Dick Cheney spouting off about how we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons. 0.56

00:16:31.000 So we have the New World Order crowd itself that sells people into joining it That we have to have a tyrannical world government to stop bioweapons releases, but then meanwhile, it is the globalists developing these systems, building the factories, making it, proliferating it, selling the technology to these third world countries, chemical, biological, and nuclear, radiological. 0.82

00:16:58.000 So time and time again, I mean it was three years ago, the Australian government took a mousepox strain Made it a hundred percent fatal, and then put out the recipe publicly, on purpose.

00:17:10.000 Published it, with government approval, on the university's website, about how to take any mammal, take the mouse pox, change it for that mammal, and create a pox that kills one hundred, one hundred percent of those that come in contact with it.

00:17:27.000 Now, why on earth would the government of Australia release that?

00:17:32.000 Why on earth Is our own government doing this?

00:17:37.000 Folks, why does the British, the U.S. 0.94

00:17:39.000 and Israel, and it's been all over the BBC, you name it, why are they arming Iran with nuclear power plant parts?

00:17:47.000 Why is our government arming North Korea, Pakistan?

00:17:50.000 Why do you see this proliferation?

00:17:53.000 You see, they want to not just use the threat of this crisis emerging to get total tyranny in world government.

00:18:01.000 They want to have a controlled, specific release of this.

00:18:05.000 And now it's over 50 top microbiologists and bioweapons treatment or development who could analyze and tell you where something came from, where it was developed, dying in airlocks, being run over by cars, then backed over, being shot in the head, being stabbed to death.

00:18:24.000 Being tortured to death in the case of a top Virginia scientist before he was killed.

00:18:29.000 It's happening in Australia, Russia, Israel, the U.S., Canada.

00:18:33.000 It's happening all over Europe.

00:18:35.000 It's happening all over the globe.

00:18:36.000 New Zealand, Houston, Texas, Dallas, Texas.

00:18:40.000 All over the place, they're being killed.

00:18:43.000 And that is very scary, my friends, because who's getting rid of them?

00:18:47.000 Why are they getting rid of them?

00:18:48.000 Obviously, if you look at all the evidence, because somebody plans on using this.

00:18:52.000 And I'm not trying to scare you folks.

00:18:54.000 I just want you to know what's really going on.

00:18:57.000 And so, the globalists use this threat to fearmonger and get people to morally go, well, we've got to be the most ruthless, the most cunning, we've got to have a dictatorial, you know, face scan, world ID card, microchip population, because technology's too powerful and we'll destroy ourselves if we don't.

00:19:16.000 But instead of making treaties, and deals, and paying countries not to, and having them voluntarily do all this, which would work, And having it through a real agreement through a constitutional republic form of government.

00:19:30.000 No, they're setting up a tyrannical world government while racing ahead to cause this cataclysm to take place. 0.63

00:19:37.000 And I'll tell you the most scary piece of evidence when we get back.

00:19:43.000 So we'll get to this when we return.

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00:19:47.000 And Joel Skousen joining us as well.

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00:23:57.000 So, we have this global government running around saying we've got to have total power,

00:24:19.000 no rogue nations, everything controlled, your life micromanaged, and they want to micromanage

00:24:25.000 the general public down at your everyday level.

00:24:28.000 It has nothing to do with the bioweapons, which they've produced, which they've distributed, which they've given out the recipes for. 0.81

00:24:37.000 And then meanwhile, you read the globalist writings, and it's like something out of that James Bond movie, Moonraker.

00:24:44.000 You know, Prince Philip, Ted Turner, Jacques Cousteau, the UN's population control system.

00:24:50.000 We've got to reduce the population by 80 percent.

00:24:53.000 No, 95 percent.

00:24:54.000 I mean, this is openly discussed.

00:24:57.000 I've been years ago at, you know, cocktail parties with UT professors.

00:25:00.000 It's like, that's the discussion point.

00:25:03.000 What about the people bomb, Mr. Jones?

00:25:04.000 We've got to do something!

00:25:07.000 China's doing what it has to do! 0.91

00:25:09.000 You know, this whole attitude.

00:25:10.000 This elitist attitude.

00:25:12.000 Oh, you're part of the elite.

00:25:13.000 You're with the global government.

00:25:14.000 You're going to be safe through all of this.

00:25:18.000 And so, we have the globalists producing all of this, saying, let's legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons, is what Dick Cheney said.

00:25:26.000 By the way, that's not just been on their own website, it's been the one in Guardian.

00:25:29.000 Michael Meacher, that was the last straw for the Environment Minister when he resigned in England.

00:25:32.000 He said, look, if you didn't do 9-11, you had prior knowledge of it, and by the way, you said you want to use race-specific bioweapons, you people are psychopaths, and he pointed out where they set it.

00:25:41.000 So, I mean, this is incredible stuff, folks.

00:25:44.000 But the biggest, scariest point is, is not just that they're out promoting that they want to get rid of 85 to 95 percent of it.

00:25:51.000 It runs from 80 to 95 percent in different estimates.

00:25:54.000 That's not the scariest part.

00:25:56.000 If you live in Switzerland, within a few miles from your house is a giant luxury bunker with two years of food and water, its own air cleaning system, tennis courts, weight lifting facilities.

00:26:09.000 If you live in Russia, they have nice bunkers for you. 0.99

00:26:12.000 If you live in China, they have nice bunkers for you. 1.00

00:26:14.000 Not as nice as Switzerland.

00:26:16.000 I grew up in Dallas.

00:26:16.000 Do you know where your fallout shelter is?

00:26:19.000 It's in a local parking garage.

00:26:20.000 They can claim the dead bodies out in the spring.

00:26:24.000 But no government has spent anywhere near, even on budget.

00:26:28.000 And there's the black budget, the secret budget. 0.98

00:26:31.000 Nothing to do with black people. 0.99

00:26:32.000 Sometimes I get an email, and it's never a black person, it's always some white yuppie going, yeah, talk about black funding. 0.99

00:26:38.000 Black budget means secret. 0.97

00:26:39.000 Black bag, you know, dark projects is what they're called.

00:26:43.000 It's decided.

00:26:43.000 I have to do that, folks.

00:26:45.000 I know that the general listenership is smart, but some people aren't.

00:26:48.000 They think, you know, but anyway, side issue.

00:26:51.000 These black budget, secret, shadow, Systems.

00:26:55.000 But just the public funding of the U.S.

00:26:57.000 government since the 40s is the highest of any nation out there.

00:27:00.000 It's like all our other military spending.

00:27:03.000 Giant underground bunkers.

00:27:04.000 Giant railway systems.

00:27:06.000 They admit there's one all under Washington, where members of the House and Senate publicly ride these little trains around.

00:27:13.000 They've got them all across the country.

00:27:14.000 They've got them all under Fort Hood here in Texas.

00:27:17.000 They've got them going up into Canada, going into Mexico.

00:27:20.000 Huge underground cities and bunkers.

00:27:24.000 And there's a race right now to build them.

00:27:26.000 You think the Cold War is over, everything's fine?

00:27:28.000 There's a race, even before 9-11, and now accelerating.

00:27:31.000 They're radically expanding these.

00:27:34.000 They've got huge underground locomotives that can just cut through four feet of solid rock an hour, honeycombing the country.

00:27:42.000 And seismographs all over the nation have picked these up, you know, this slow grinding hum that they know is the signature of these tunnelers.

00:27:51.000 So, they're building these giant luxury cities for the elite.

00:27:55.000 You know, I guess the 20% they're not going to kill, or the 5% of it's Ted Turner's estimate.

00:28:00.000 And they're doing all of this!

00:28:03.000 And by the way, even Reuters and MSNBC and the New York Times have reported how billionaires are all buying private islands with security and electric fences in the Caribbean.

00:28:15.000 And, you know, how they've got jets always fueled wherever they're at, ready to fly out of the nation.

00:28:24.000 And then right during 9-11, Bush runs to Moffett Air Force Base in Nebraska and meets with all these CEO leaders.

00:28:30.000 I mean, they were all meeting earlier that morning before Bush even got there with Warren Buffett and all these top CEOs.

00:28:36.000 I mean, this is sick, folks.

00:28:38.000 And they throw a lot of what they're going to do to us in our faces.

00:28:43.000 I was talking to a school teacher yesterday, and he said, yeah, the news is entertainment, and the entertainment is propaganda.

00:28:50.000 Now, again, the news is entertainment, and then the TV shows are propaganda.

00:28:56.000 And he's absolutely right, but an MI6 agent wrote the James Bond books, and in Moonrakers you have this Illuminati leader who wants to kill the world population to save the environment, and he releases this bio-weapon and they barely stop it.

00:29:10.000 But this is how they throw it in your face.

00:29:14.000 And you know, the latest one is about bio-weapons and people wanting to live forever and kidnapping people to take their plans.

00:29:22.000 Well, that's already going on, folks.

00:29:24.000 For real.

00:29:25.000 While they're growing these cloned babies to get their brain tissue and want the aborted babies. 1.00

00:29:31.000 The point is, is that truth is stranger than fiction and these psychopaths are handing out these weapons You know, like they're pop guns or something, and they know this global crisis will bring in the New World Order.

00:29:44.000 9-11 is just the setup for all of this to get you ready.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:20.000 You know, I've been talking the last half hour about race-specific bioweapons, weaponized bioweapons, you name it. 0.54

00:33:30.000 Weaponized biologicals, I should say. 0.93

00:33:32.000 And just recapping before I go to the next... Before I go to the next level of this, is the recap for those that just joined us.

00:33:47.000 The globalists say we've got to have world government because they can't have any rogue nations or rogue industries or companies because now the technology is readily available in the human genome published which is a real good idea I guess by the federal government in concert with the eugenics promoting IBMers that control half of it. 0.72

00:34:08.000 We've got to have this world government to contain this Well, here's the problem.

00:34:12.000 The globalists are psychopaths who openly say they want to get rid of 80-95% of us.

00:34:17.000 And on top of it, they're building all these giant underground bunkers to protect themselves and the elite. 0.59

00:34:22.000 Foreign countries give the public access to the bunkers.

00:34:25.000 America doesn't.

00:34:26.000 The average American doesn't even know these exist, though it's public.

00:34:30.000 A large portion of them are public.

00:34:34.000 And then you say, well, a race-specific bioweapon wouldn't have a way of spreading, wouldn't have a way of getting to everybody.

00:34:41.000 Well, here's the problem.

00:34:42.000 If you have a race-specific bioweapon or you have a general bioweapon release and it starts killing hundreds of thousands, millions of people, it will cause nationwide panic, total breakdown of society.

00:34:53.000 We're not the people of 50, 60, 70, 80 years ago that know how to skin a buck and run a trot line, that know how to farm and garden.

00:35:01.000 And things will rapidly implode in on themselves and will break down into bedlam.

00:35:07.000 Now, you can be assured that whatever bioweapon the globalists release, they're going to have a Ironclad cure for it for themselves and their forces.

00:35:15.000 But you're saying the globalists would never get away with that.

00:35:18.000 Their own people would blow the whistle on them.

00:35:20.000 Well, that's why now 50-plus top microbiologists, either in the treatment of bioweapons or the development of it, who can tell you who produced a bioweapon, have been dying very mysteriously, being murdered, being tortured, being butchered, being run over and backed back over publicly.

00:35:37.000 Dying in airlocks, dying in plane crashes, Being drowned in an inch of water when their car flips, and witnesses seeing men in dark uniforms standing around them, and Dr. David Kelly with men in dark uniforms standing around him, and mainstream news now that he was murdered, who was the head of Porton Down Bioweapons Lab.

00:35:56.000 And let's just say the government's angels, they're still producing, they've got all these bioweapons labs, level 4 and even level 5's, even some above that level, And we've had cases where this stuff has gotten out in Russia, gotten out in China, on purpose in England they released the weaponized foot-and-mouth, just a blurb in Sky Television News and a few newspapers like the London Guardian and Telegraph of four years ago.

00:36:21.000 That was used to kill off most of the cows and sheep.

00:36:24.000 Then I predicted the government wouldn't let people restock their cows and sheep, which they did do, and then forced the farmers to sell so big agribusiness could take over.

00:36:33.000 So they could release this on accident, or someone could steal it and release it, but guaranteed that's not going to happen.

00:36:38.000 Or they may claim it happened on accident.

00:36:40.000 And now under Bush's BioShield program, they're going to build, and are building, three dozen of these to quote, study and treat it.

00:36:48.000 But they admit these are really bioweapons production labs to create thousands of gallons, as the Baltimore Sun said, of liquid death.

00:36:59.000 And then we've got Dick Cheney and the PNAC document saying we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bio-weapons. 0.83

00:37:06.000 And the PNAC document, Rebuilding America's Defense, is September 2000.

00:37:10.000 We have globalists who we've caught putting cancer viruses, not just in SV40, but in other vaccines, 250 times.

00:37:17.000 I've been saying 215 times.

00:37:19.000 I looked it up again yesterday.

00:37:20.000 They took the mercury out of some vaccines, put it in the mandatory ones they really push.

00:37:25.000 They went up to a higher level, 250 times safe levels, and that's now posted on PrisonPlanet.com in the bioweapon vaccine section.

00:37:34.000 And we have a global government that's been caught in Africa, Latin America, Asia, from the fifties into the nineties, putting sterilization hormones into the vaccines for the women.

00:37:46.000 I mean, this is all posted on the website right now.

00:37:49.000 Henry Kissinger in seventy-three, telling five most populous third world countries, sterilize half your population by force, or no IMF and World Bank money that was declassified in ninety-two.

00:38:00.000 That's on the website, the actual CIA documents.

00:38:03.000 So we have these nutcases saying, give up our liberty, we're going to protect you from this, while they set up the entire system, the whole technological control grid, to basically hurt us and control us during these purposeful releases.

00:38:19.000 And you're saying, well, people in government won't go along with this.

00:38:24.000 That's what total information awareness is about.

00:38:26.000 Everything tracked and traced.

00:38:29.000 And believe me, those NSA computers aren't set for talk of bombs and, you know, Alibaba.

00:38:37.000 They're not set for discussions of cocaine and heroin.

00:38:40.000 They're set for discussions of people finding out and talking about race-specific bio-weapons.

00:38:46.000 They're set for FBI agents talking to their wife about how the government had prior knowledge of 9-11 so they can send some nice boys out so that FBI agent has a car wreck tomorrow.

00:38:58.000 That's what NSA is set for.

00:39:00.000 That's what the real control grid is.

00:39:03.000 And they've just got a few hundred top people listening and tracking all of that, and then another mass, often just tertiary intelligence operations.

00:39:12.000 Because there's no real terrorism, my friends.

00:39:15.000 It isn't globalist control.

00:39:16.000 We've proven that.

00:39:18.000 And so, now they say by 2012, most of the Air Force will be drone.

00:39:23.000 That's right.

00:39:24.000 Most of the Air Force will be drone.

00:39:28.000 refueling jets, fighters, surveillance, drone, drone, drone.

00:39:35.000 So see, they're now going to come out, the new site is reported, with automatic control gates and robotic cones that block highways automatically and the face scanning cameras on your street corners and the roads.

00:39:48.000 All of this can be controlled by computer programs.

00:39:50.000 You can set the program up for what you want to do and turn the computer loose and literally just a few people can control hundreds of drones taking off with the bio-weapons, spraying the cities, doing whatever they want.

00:40:07.000 This is all being set up.

00:40:08.000 Total Information Awareness is about protecting the globalists while they commit their crimes of bid rigging and scamming and sucking Pentagon funds dry of over a trillion dollars.

00:40:21.000 It's meant for economic espionage and spying on their competition, and it's meant on protecting them and building up a grid where just a few hundred people can wage war against the entire planet.

00:40:34.000 And then the little compartmentalized technicians loading the spray canisters on the drones will just think it's one of the thousands of public tests they've had of quote, bioweapon preparedness.

00:40:47.000 And then once it's done, once the crisis has started, the globalists just have to retreat to their bunkers and watch the havoc unfold!

00:40:54.000 Now people, this isn't a science fiction movie, and this isn't a joke, and I've given you in the last 40 minutes exactly the plan, unless we stop these people!

00:41:07.000 Dan in Louisiana, go ahead, thanks for holding.

00:41:09.000 No problem, Alex, how are you doing?

00:41:11.000 Well, I know it's scary.

00:41:13.000 I got the hair on the back of my neck standing up just forcing myself to face the evidence.

00:41:17.000 Well, and I think another part of their plan is once they pull the financial plug to watch us kill each other.

00:41:23.000 Well, I don't think they're going to do the big bio-release now.

00:41:26.000 They may have a release of a weaker mainline bio-weapon that kills a few hundred thousand and sickens a million.

00:41:33.000 Then they clamp down even stronger with the police state grid.

00:41:35.000 The mass extermination is about a decade away if we don't stop them.

00:41:40.000 And there'll be lots of other, maybe a nuking of a city.

00:41:42.000 All of this to get us firmly under their control.

00:41:44.000 But once they've got the control, once we're all surveilled in our cars and our homes, which they're saying they're going to do, Once all this is in place, once they've got their drone aircraft armies, once they've got that, then they're going to go ahead.

00:41:57.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:41:58.000 Right, and that will be sort of one of the last steps they do, I think.

00:42:01.000 But I sort of have a question that's a little off topic.

00:42:05.000 This idea that's been coming up, and it was kind of mentioned on your show yesterday, I found it really interesting, this idea that there's some sort of gism in the New World Order between maybe the European moneyed side and the sort of American CIA Bush muffle side.

00:42:20.000 What, what, what, I was, I read something last night that even, uh, kind of right, right, right, right into that, and this is, this George Soros guy, are you aware of him?

00:42:28.000 Yes.

00:42:29.000 He's the Democrats' new sugar daddy, to the tune of like 12 million.

00:42:33.000 And, uh, many people on the internet have done really good work and have tied him directly back to, guess what, the house of Rothschild, of course.

00:42:39.000 Well, no, I mean, we've done that work, but then you notice Arnold at, at Lord Rothschild's house in, in, in the Scotsman and Reuters two years ago, With Warren Buffett.

00:42:48.000 We have those photos and news articles there.

00:42:50.000 And then you've got the Bushes behind him.

00:42:53.000 So at the highest levels, there really isn't a debate going on.

00:42:57.000 They like to publicly make you think that there's a choice and a debate and a fight going on.

00:43:02.000 And occasionally the minions will jockey for position with each other, for poll position.

00:43:08.000 So this is just like two people at the company trying to become CEO kind of thing?

00:43:13.000 Well, that's what I've always said.

00:43:14.000 The presidential election is two different high-level managers fighting and bidding for the CEO job of this barony, or this fiefdom, this viceroy position over the North American grid.

00:43:29.000 What about this idea that Iraq was sort of this American Wall Street impulsive operation, and the Europeans are scared to death that it's waking everybody up?

00:43:37.000 It sure woke me up.

00:43:39.000 Okay.

00:43:40.000 We've been reporting this for two years, a year before the war, sir.

00:43:44.000 How long have you been listening?

00:43:46.000 Eight months.

00:43:47.000 Okay, well there's actual archives of my show going back four, five, six, seven years, so you can go out on the net and find those.

00:43:54.000 But there's even some on our website.

00:43:54.000 Okay.

00:43:56.000 In fact, in our audio section of PrisonPlanet.com, we've got interviews going back at least two years.

00:44:02.000 Go back two years ago, listen to a couple shows.

00:44:04.000 Okay.

00:44:05.000 Listen to me talking to Jim Tucker a year before Iraq.

00:44:09.000 You'll have to go back to the archives, but you can find it.

00:44:12.000 And we lay out how the Europeans are going to play the part of the good cop.

00:44:16.000 They're going to say they're against it.

00:44:17.000 They're going to act like there's a schism.

00:44:20.000 Then the U.N.' 's going to come in later and play the part of the savior and the good cop.

00:44:23.000 And they're going to put all this out.

00:44:25.000 I mean, I said five years ago they were going to put out this story of peak oil.

00:44:28.000 There's no oil left.

00:44:29.000 So we'll psychologically accept higher oil prices.

00:44:33.000 This is very sophisticated.

00:44:34.000 Look, the people that own the Federal Reserve own the European Central Banks.

00:44:39.000 Right.

00:44:39.000 Okay, it's all the same system.

00:44:42.000 Do they occasionally fight with each other at mid-level power positions?

00:44:45.000 Yes.

00:44:45.000 But that's just for management positions.

00:44:48.000 Is there backstabbing going on occasionally?

00:44:49.000 Yes.

00:44:50.000 But the whole agenda itself, the goals of the corporation are the same.

00:44:54.000 I see.

00:44:56.000 It's like the Mafia fights with each other.

00:44:59.000 Occasionally.

00:45:00.000 But they still agree upon the prostitution... Well, what about this idea that they're going to... The bed-rigging, the drug-dealing, the... Go ahead.

00:45:07.000 What about this idea that they're going to tell Georgie that he needs to step down because things have gotten too hot?

00:45:13.000 Well, I mean, everybody's saying that there might be a military coup, and that Bush is in trouble, and these people are stepping down because of this, and, you know, we were really the first to talk about that because of our... This has all come out of MI6, which I'm very skeptical of.

00:45:28.000 And now everybody's picked up on it, and I really don't put a lot of stock in that.

00:45:33.000 Now, I said, again, years ago, they could burn Bush politically, blame conservatism as if Bush represented conservatism, energize a new super left-wing movement, put Terry in, the real policies will continue.

00:45:48.000 And that may well happen.

00:45:50.000 But it's stage, sir.

00:45:51.000 It's theater.

00:45:52.000 It's Hulk Hogan wins one match, and the next time it's going to be The Undertaker.

00:45:57.000 You know, it's still staged.

00:46:00.000 So no real schisms?

00:46:02.000 No real schisms.

00:46:04.000 Thanks for the call, Dan.

00:46:05.000 But you know, that's just my opinion.

00:46:07.000 You have to judge.

00:46:08.000 Does Alex have foresight?

00:46:10.000 Does Alex have a grasp of the geopolitical system?

00:46:13.000 Does he have a good track record?

00:46:15.000 And that's up to you to decide, my friends.

00:46:18.000 And it's up to you to research and check out for yourself.

00:46:22.000 Andrew in California, go ahead.

00:46:24.000 Alex, this is an update to an old story.

00:46:27.000 This morning the local NBC station in L.A.

00:46:30.000 reported that automakers are installing black box tracking devices in cars and trucks.

00:46:36.000 And the reason being the government wants the ability to record 42 different kinds of safety data by the year 2008.

00:46:45.000 Well, here's what they do.

00:46:47.000 California comes out and says, and they're the bellwether for regulation for the rest of the nation, The testing, beta testing circuit.

00:46:54.000 And they say, we're going to pass a law that you've got to be informed that this black box is in your car.

00:47:00.000 Everybody goes, oh, see, they're good.

00:47:01.000 Then they come out and say, oh, but we're going to expand it.

00:47:05.000 California was saying they were going to ban electronic voting machines.

00:47:07.000 Then they come right back today and recertify them.

00:47:10.000 So it's more WWF, you know, World Federation Wrestling.

00:47:14.000 But we can't convince the general public that it's fake.

00:47:17.000 They believe Hulk Hogan is really battling with You know, with The Rock.

00:47:23.000 Okay, fine, children.

00:47:26.000 But, for nine years, all cars, by a federal regulation, have these black boxes in them.

00:47:34.000 And the black box has a computer plug-in for the $25 to $50, depending on what company they buy it from, satellite tracking console.

00:47:43.000 And they're going to tax and trace us to drive our cars and live our lives just a few years away.

00:47:47.000 Major states are now announcing they plan to do it.

00:47:49.000 There'll be an international tax tagged on as well.

00:47:51.000 And they're going to lower gas prices again, then bring in the tax.

00:47:55.000 And then you'll think, oh, well, it's lower, you know, with this tax, it's better than, you know, what we were paying back in 2004.

00:48:00.000 Isn't it jolly?

00:48:02.000 And plus, I get a free satellite tracker in here that directs me on different street corners and maps and where I'm going.

00:48:08.000 And, oh boy, there's an infrared node on it, hooked into a cell phone in the dash, that if my car gets too hot and I'm in it, it'll automatically call the police.

00:48:17.000 Oh, by the way, that infrared camera's watching you.

00:48:20.000 That's MSNBC.

00:48:21.000 We're all going to have cameras watching us.

00:48:23.000 But, after all, 35 children die on average per summer from being left in guards.

00:48:26.000 This will save 35 children.

00:48:27.000 Not against that argument.

00:48:28.000 So, again, these are all the tie-ins in how it works.

00:48:30.000 1984, my friend, on steroids.

00:48:34.000 And so, yes sir, and hundreds of people, at least the hundreds of articles I've seen, I'm sure it's more than that, you're out doing 75 in a 60, a deer jumps out in front of you, this is a Texas case, just a few months ago, your car flips, uh... and uh... your husband died because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt and then you're not your husband isn't just dead you weren't just speeding you didn't just make a mistake life just as dangerous now you're gonna be charged with manslaughter and now you're gonna be convicted you're gonna spend ten years in the penitentiary because you were going fifteen miles over the speed limit and tried to dodge the deer and you flipped the car and killed your husband and then you lied about it to the police and said you were going sixty but no they got the little computer box you were doing seventy-five

00:49:18.000 So you see?

00:49:18.000 You see how this works?

00:49:21.000 Yep.

00:49:22.000 Prime projection!

00:49:23.000 What else do you want?

00:49:24.000 What else do you want to know?

00:49:27.000 That's all I got, Alex.

00:49:28.000 Thanks.

00:49:29.000 We're entering... Thank you.

00:49:30.000 We're entering hell on earth, ladies and gentlemen.

00:49:31.000 I have to watch it unfolding in front of me.

00:49:33.000 Every day.

00:49:34.000 The big picture!

00:49:36.000 And if we could just show this big picture to everybody else, we'd turn this around before the grid closed!

00:49:41.000 Because when the grid closes, the fun really starts.

00:49:45.000 I don't want to be here in ten years from now.

00:49:49.000 Hunkering in the basement.

00:49:51.000 The spray planes have gone over.

00:49:52.000 The illness is broken out.

00:49:53.000 The spray planes will spray us in the middle of the night.

00:49:57.000 The drones.

00:50:01.000 All the robotic cones, all the face scanning cameras, all the pods looking through our walls didn't keep us safe.

00:50:07.000 Why the terror group got the bio-weapon?

00:50:09.000 They hit us.

00:50:10.000 They hit us hard.

00:50:11.000 They hit us hard.

00:50:13.000 What are we going to do?

00:50:15.000 Oh, our gracious leaders tried to protect us.

00:50:16.000 Oh no.

00:50:19.000 You know, we arrested millions for the homeland after the nuke attack. 0.67

00:50:23.000 But that didn't protect us either.

00:50:28.000 Folks, I'm not joking.

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00:50:31.000 It's really happening.

00:50:33.000 And, uh... If you're not freaked out by this, there's something wrong with you.

00:50:39.000 Great point, Andrew.

00:50:40.000 Really good question.

00:50:41.000 Got me off on a rant with that one.

00:50:43.000 I mean... Oh!

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00:54:54.000 know, as all this unfolds, to tell me I didn't do my utmost to fight it.

00:54:58.000 Bye.

00:54:59.000 And you can deny the things I've laid out, what I've said here.

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00:55:18.000 That's on the record, people!

00:55:21.000 Alright?

00:55:22.000 I'm able to look at the big picture, especially if I watch television and see their propaganda, which I don't do as much anymore because I should make myself watch it.

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00:56:12.000 We've got to push this out to the mainstream, which we're doing!

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00:56:17.000 I cannot commit my family and everybody around me to this total degradation and even death, people, which the New World Order offers you.

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00:56:35.000 9-11 is just the fears so they can put the handcuffs on you, the police state in place, and then put you into the vehicle and take you away, my friends.

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01:00:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:15.000 Second hour of global transmission.

01:00:19.000 June 11th, Friday, 2004, year of our Lord.

01:00:25.000 Global forces have seized control of most dominant media, universities, banking, government.

01:00:30.000 They are systematically preparing massive terror attacks.

01:00:32.000 They've carried out terror attacks in the past to scare us into smaller and smaller rings, greater and greater control over our lives.

01:00:40.000 We have a government that openly gives deadly vaccines to our troops and makes them live in barracks that were bombed with a plethora of uranium.

01:00:48.000 Top medical institutions have tested their blood, two rims of radiation, enough to kill you, not to mention the heavy metal content.

01:00:55.000 And you think the globalists wouldn't carry out a September 11th? 0.96

01:00:59.000 They could care less about you. 0.99

01:01:01.000 These are heartless, soulless, vampiric pieces of filth. 0.82

01:01:05.000 Let's take a few calls, and Joel Skousen's joining us, expert on the New World Order.

01:01:10.000 Let us now go to Jason in Indiana.

01:01:12.000 Jason, welcome.

01:01:14.000 Hey, Alex.

01:01:15.000 Yeah, I'm calling to talk to you about an email I sent you a couple of days ago.

01:01:20.000 We came across an online archive of 350 vintage Bohemian Grove photos.

01:01:25.000 Yes, I got those, and we're trying to plow through them.

01:01:29.000 I'll tell you what, go to PrisonPlanet.com, email it to the webmaster there.

01:01:34.000 He's tied down, but not as much as we are.

01:01:36.000 I did look at them yesterday and this morning.

01:01:39.000 I just want to make sure you got those.

01:01:40.000 I did get them.

01:01:41.000 Okay, great.

01:01:42.000 I also wanted to ask you, did you catch O'Reilly a couple days ago?

01:01:46.000 No, I didn't.

01:01:47.000 He had a little segment on about torture, and he absolutely freaked out on a guy.

01:01:53.000 Almost cussed him out because the guy was against torture.

01:01:56.000 It was quite disturbing.

01:01:59.000 Well, this is the mass warping of the mind, but look, they promoted torture for two and a half years, then they bring out the photos themselves, then they legitimize them, then it comes out the Pentagon ordered all of it, and then they use double think saying we never ordered it, then they say it's good in the same breath.

01:02:14.000 So I guess Joseph Mingolo wasn't a bad guy.

01:02:16.000 Yeah, it's pretty disturbing.

01:02:18.000 Thanks a lot.

01:02:18.000 Well, great show, Alex.

01:02:19.000 Thank you, Jason.

01:02:22.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Eric in Connecticut.

01:02:24.000 Eric, go ahead.

01:02:25.000 Hey, Alex.

01:02:26.000 Greetings from Skull and Bones country.

01:02:28.000 Yes, sir.

01:02:29.000 I'm in the process of drafting letters to all my state delegation and the White House saying if there are any other terror attacks, and these will be certified letters, typed and basically formally presented saying that if there is another terror attack in this country, I am holding you and your globalist minions responsible for it.

01:02:52.000 The average guy on the street may hear what we're talking about and just not believe it in any way, despite its truthfulness.

01:02:59.000 But if I say to the guys that I work with, here are these people that have gotten, since September 11th, they've gotten all this money, all this power, the Department of Homeland Security, the whole apparatus for, quote, fighting terror, unquote, yet they're telling us they're going to be more attacked.

01:03:17.000 So what they're basically telling us, Alex, in essence, is they can't get the job done.

01:03:23.000 They can't get it done.

01:03:25.000 It's like the war on drugs.

01:03:27.000 The bigger the war on drugs gets, the more drugs are on the streets, the more people in prison. 0.59

01:03:31.000 They bring the drugs in, and then even on the private prisons, when you're dumb enough to use them, where you're going to live and work for them.

01:03:37.000 They own the entire equation. 0.93

01:03:39.000 Absolutely.

01:03:39.000 Well, you and I both know that they want the terror attacks to practice the Hegelian dialectic.

01:03:46.000 The average guy on the street, if I pose it in that way, he's going to stop and think, wow, that's a good question.

01:03:51.000 That's a good point.

01:03:53.000 How come they have all this extra apparatus and for some reason they're just not getting it done?

01:03:57.000 Well, yeah, I mean look at the motive.

01:03:59.000 Let's say they're not behind the terror attacks, but they certainly like to let it happen because they get more power and control and bonuses.

01:04:04.000 Absolutely.

01:04:05.000 Qui bono.

01:04:05.000 Who benefits?

01:04:07.000 That's what the Romans would say.

01:04:09.000 The first question you ask is motive.

01:04:11.000 Yes.

01:04:12.000 A couple of questions, Alex.

01:04:13.000 I know you're busier than a one-armed paper hanger, but would it be possible, in light of your earlier mentioning of a television section, Would it be possible for, say, on Prison Planet TV to have, like, uh, television for the New World Order and have clips?

01:04:28.000 And also, is there a possibility... You exposed Ann Coulter.

01:04:31.000 You've shown a 3,000-watt light on her neocon fakism.

01:04:35.000 Would it be possible to have more neocons on your programs?

01:04:37.000 We tried, but they know who I am.

01:04:39.000 Ah.

01:04:41.000 Yeah, they won't come on, and, you know, I could lie and say it's another talk show, but I'm not really in that business.

01:04:47.000 Thanks for the call.

01:04:47.000 All right, Joel Scalzen's coming up.

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01:08:02.000 You want answers?

01:08:04.000 Well, so does he.

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01:08:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:18.000 WorldAffairsBrief.com is his website.

01:08:23.000 It's Joel Skousen.

01:08:26.000 He's a political scientist by training, specializing in philosophy of law and constitutional theory.

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01:09:08.000 I should have him on sometime about that subject, but he's also an author of World Affairs Brief and some books about the New World Order, and of course he's the nephew of Cleon Skousen, and we're honored to have him on the broadcast today after I babbled through his bio.

01:09:27.000 We've had him on the broadcast before, and I agree with about 98% of what he has to say, and it's always good to have his view here on the show.

01:09:36.000 Mr. Skousen, good to have you with us.

01:09:38.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:09:39.000 It's always good to be with you.

01:09:41.000 Before we go any further, I went off into a diatribe in the last hour.

01:09:45.000 About how even James Weapon's Dictionary, Encyclopedia, we've got a guest coming on next hour from the Sunshine Project, exposing the bioweapons our own government's making, race-specific stuff, and how it really is the globalist's plan, once they've got us all locked down in compact cities in years to come, to start releasing these weapons for world population reduction.

01:10:08.000 It's their own plan.

01:10:10.000 Can you speak to that first off?

01:10:13.000 I really can't, Alex.

01:10:14.000 It isn't my strong suit.

01:10:16.000 I have heard the rumors.

01:10:18.000 I've frankly not been able to come up with any verifiable confirmation.

01:10:23.000 I do know that they do intend to pull off a major world war where the U.S. 0.94

01:10:28.000 will be the primary target, England the secondary target.

01:10:31.000 I know there will be a lot of destruction after that war, but I am not privy, I'm afraid to say, to any specific plans to simply kill off people by You know dumping chemical or biological weapons on urban cities.

01:10:46.000 Well let me, since you said you're not informed of or greatly informed on that issue.

01:10:52.000 Certainly you know about the U.N.

01:10:54.000 statements about we've got to reduce world population by 80 percent, the Ted Turners, the Prince Phillips in their own publications saying it, and then I'm sure you know about James Weapons putting out an alert last year about the development of race-specific bioweapons, and then in a PNAC document written in September of 2000 by Dick Cheney, he calls for, quote, legitimizing the use ...of these weapons, and the one in Guardian did a scathing report on his statements.

01:11:24.000 Then we have all these microbiologists in key areas of weapons development and treatment dying, being murdered, being run over, being stabbed to death, being shot, all of that happening.

01:11:37.000 And then we have the globalist MO that, well, we've got to have a world government to stop the proliferation of all of this, but then in reality, they're actually proliferating it, Joel.

01:11:46.000 Well, I am familiar with all of the statements that you read.

01:11:49.000 I'm just stating that I'm not familiar with and have not seen any credible documentation of specific weapons, when and where, or actual creation.

01:11:59.000 You know, so much of that is commentary.

01:12:02.000 Some of it could be disinformation.

01:12:03.000 Listen, Alex, I am no naive person.

01:12:06.000 I believe the globalists are up to no good.

01:12:09.000 It's just that I don't go public unless I can actually get some verifiable data on, yeah, they have this weapon and it's stored here and they're planning on using it there, and I don't have that yet.

01:12:19.000 Yeah, well you know Bush has got the 5.8 billion funding for the BioShield program, three dozen level four bio-weapons labs?

01:12:27.000 Yes, and certainly there's a lot of black weapons projects going on. 0.97

01:12:32.000 As I've been building for tomorrow's, or today's World Affairs Brief, I've got an article about Some of these so-called meteor sightings in the Seattle area, and now one in New Zealand, and they appear to be bogus.

01:12:45.000 They are not meteors.

01:12:49.000 It appears to be a black-budget weapons testing of laser-oriented firepower for shooting down incoming ballistic missiles that they're testing on small meteors that are coming in, and the resulting test is producing huge bursts of light and large explosions Which simply do not hardly ever occur.

01:13:10.000 Well, back in the 80s and through the 90s they did public tests of particle beams blowing up missiles.

01:13:17.000 Yes, but these are, you know, for some reason they're using the meteor story as a cover for these.

01:13:21.000 I don't know what their purpose is.

01:13:23.000 There were public tests in 1997 and 1998.

01:13:25.000 In fact, I had a Boeing engineer call me and say, look, I was in Colorado Springs.

01:13:32.000 I saw the test at night.

01:13:34.000 And what they're describing in Seattle and New Zealand is exactly what I saw.

01:13:38.000 Big flash.

01:13:38.000 Well, that's why I raise this.

01:13:40.000 I mean, the tests were public in the 80s and the 90s and even did one last year where they've got, they've got former, you know, large passenger style jets loaded with huge chemical lasers.

01:13:54.000 Well, there are already two prototypes flying around, so... But they are apparently different than the original ones that were tested.

01:14:01.000 These are a whole different kind of laser.

01:14:03.000 It doesn't put out a steady stream of a beam that's visible.

01:14:06.000 It just puts out a massive stroke of light and a huge explosion follows.

01:14:11.000 I think part of it could be a sonic boom of the energy charge going out, but they're trying hard to cover up that these are tests.

01:14:17.000 They're certainly not admitting to them.

01:14:19.000 Well, I'm not going to try to argue with you, Joel, and I certainly, you know, Meteors don't normally explode and make a huge sound, and you don't normally see it happening in different parts of the globe.

01:14:30.000 I've seen space junk come in.

01:14:31.000 It'll explode, but not as loud as people describe.

01:14:36.000 But you say you're pretty sure this is going on.

01:14:39.000 I'd say there's more evidence to the race-specific bioweapons with Dick Cheney talking about them and James putting out a worldwide alert last year compared to, we think this is a laser.

01:14:49.000 How do you extrapolate out to say that you think that's going on?

01:14:56.000 There's just a lot more evidence, physical evidence, of people who have worked with the lasers and seen them.

01:15:02.000 There also is the cover-up.

01:15:04.000 It's being used right now.

01:15:05.000 That's why I'm saying I have specific evidence.

01:15:08.000 You know, Cheney has never admitted he's going to use biospecific weapons to kill people.

01:15:13.000 I mean, that's just too much of an interpretation.

01:15:16.000 I'm not saying that they're not going to do that.

01:15:18.000 I'm just saying I know, he said that they needed to have a debate about using them to legitimize their use.

01:15:25.000 I'd like to see that.

01:15:26.000 I have not seen that documentation, Alex.

01:15:29.000 That's the Rebuilding America's Defenses, September 2000, PNAC.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, but I've read that.

01:15:36.000 That doesn't talk about race-specific... The London Guardian did a report on it last year that I read about ten times on air, and actually put a link to it.

01:15:44.000 It may be another one of those sub-chapters.

01:15:46.000 I mean, how many things are on PNAC?

01:15:48.000 A couple hundred?

01:15:49.000 I need to dig that out and send that to you.

01:15:51.000 Yeah, I'd like to see the specifics.

01:15:52.000 I'm not disputing what you say, but I'd just like to see Well, I don't want to digress off into the whole discussion of it, but I mean, certainly you know that it was Sky Television News and the London Guardian and London Telegraph reported four years ago that it was the government that released the foot-and-mouth quote, by accident.

01:16:09.000 So my point is, if they're developing this stuff in these labs, quote, how is it accidentally getting released?

01:16:15.000 Yes, there's an awful lot of that going on.

01:16:18.000 Most of these releases are, I mean, all of them that I know of are purposeful.

01:16:24.000 We have everything from the AIDS epidemic and vaccine experimentation and releases of toxic and abortifacients and everything else coming in vaccines.

01:16:36.000 Well there are thousands of admissions of high altitude, low altitude, chemical, biological, radiological releases.

01:16:42.000 Project Shad with troops all over the globe.

01:16:47.000 Yes, and of course we have the chemtrails scandal, which the U.S.

01:16:49.000 has covered up tremendously.

01:16:51.000 I mean, this is so obvious.

01:16:53.000 The proofs, the photographs, all of the things that are out there, and yet our government continues to suppress that.

01:16:58.000 I mean, they are not about to admit to these things.

01:17:00.000 But you're right, they're out there.

01:17:03.000 But even with chemtrails, you know, there still are four or five different possibilities to explain what they're doing, and none of them are definitive or provable yet.

01:17:12.000 We just know that at 5,000 feet in the summer, trails don't stand there for five hours.

01:17:18.000 Well, actually they can under certain meteorological conditions, and I'm pretty much an expert being a pilot on chemtrails and other things.

01:17:25.000 That's right, you were a fighter pilot in... But I'll tell you this, the one thing that we really need is to be able to fly an aircraft up in the trail of one of those chemtrailers and take samples, and I'll tell you, you ask the FAA for permission and they will not let you approach them.

01:17:40.000 Let me ask you a question then.

01:17:42.000 Obviously something's going on with the chemtrails.

01:17:44.000 I mean, you're a pilot, a military, what, Marine Corps pilot from Vietnam.

01:17:48.000 What do you think?

01:17:49.000 I mean, certainly this isn't normal.

01:17:51.000 Five, six years ago the sky didn't look like this.

01:17:53.000 What's going on, Joel?

01:17:54.000 Well, I think the best bet is experimentation with weather modification.

01:18:00.000 The patterns have changed.

01:18:02.000 There's also a potential that they use it to mask radars for coverage of of uh... military intrusions uh... an attack so there were

01:18:11.000 uh... satellite photo showing a tremendous amount of chemtrails over the gulf

01:18:15.000 of war region laid down in exact pattern

01:18:18.000 and they you know may have been weather modification and they also

01:18:22.000 have been for radar masking if and

01:18:24.000 some of these chemtrails have had uh... aluminum oxide chemicals dropped or doped into them in which does

01:18:30.000 act as a radar reflector

01:18:32.000 I know that certain FAA control centers have complained to the military that they can't see through this cloud of debris they're putting up there to handle radar traffic.

01:18:42.000 So it's kind of like super chaff.

01:18:44.000 Yes.

01:18:45.000 But expanding on that, because this is so important, The NASA Goddard Space Center six months ago said, yes, the Earth is 20% darker, and then we look at the satellite photos, and it's covering all the big countries.

01:19:01.000 I mean, this is a huge program.

01:19:03.000 Yes, but it has been changing.

01:19:04.000 I mean, the areas where they were doing a lot of chemtrailing, a lot of that has disappeared, and some have increased in other areas.

01:19:14.000 I'm not convinced that this is a definitive program yet, but there's been a lot of different chemicals, there's been a lot of different colors to these chemtrails, modifying different kinds of aircraft for it.

01:19:27.000 It's hard to tell still with definitive reasoning, Alex.

01:19:31.000 Alright, well we've digressed quite a bit, but this has already been very interesting.

01:19:35.000 Joel, I want to get into the upcoming terror attacks, your analysis of that.

01:19:40.000 We've got about 40 minutes left with you, and then later in this hour we'll take calls.

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01:23:49.000 All right, patriot, author, Marine Corps fighter pilot, new World War expert, Joel Skousen is our guest. I'm Alex

01:23:49.000 Call today.

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01:24:07.000 Joel, the reason I got you on, so let's dive into it, is upcoming terror attacks before

01:24:11.000 election after you know this talk of military coups I don't put a lot of stock in it, just because I think they've got their system rolling along and have got a command and control hierarchy that's pretty stiff.

01:24:23.000 What do you think's going on?

01:24:25.000 Well, let me address that first comment, too.

01:24:28.000 I think the chance of a military coup taking control back of our government is absolutely nil.

01:24:34.000 I've got a lot of experience in the military, and as sincere as I think Colonel Grand Dupree is, I just don't buy it.

01:24:41.000 I think he's dealing in wishful thinking.

01:24:45.000 This is a guy who, frankly, claims a little bit too much.

01:24:48.000 I know you've interviewed him.

01:24:49.000 I've heard that interview.

01:24:50.000 But, you know, a person who claims to be chatting with the Joint Chiefs and also Present during a medal ceremony in the South Dakota Air National Guard for people who shot down Flight 93.

01:25:00.000 Listen, that stuff is top secret information.

01:25:03.000 They don't give public medals to those people.

01:25:05.000 And a person just who's retired doesn't have the run of those things.

01:25:10.000 Well, I don't want to discount what he's saying.

01:25:12.000 I know there's been discussions and things going on, and a lot of what he's said in the past has turned out to be true.

01:25:16.000 I mean, generally, he's not the only one saying this.

01:25:18.000 This is coming at us from a hundred different quarters.

01:25:21.000 Yeah, but listen, the military, they are expert at taking everyone out and demoting them and getting them out of the service who isn't an abject yes-man to this administration.

01:25:33.000 Even in my day when I was in the military, you couldn't get any stars on your shoulder if you bucked the system in any way whatsoever.

01:25:40.000 So I'm just not believing that our military people are going to defend this nation by taking down a conspiratorial globalist government.

01:25:47.000 I really don't believe it.

01:25:48.000 Well, I tend to agree with you in the whole.

01:25:50.000 I do think there's been discussions of it at mid-levels.

01:25:53.000 But terror attacks, I mean, obviously they're gearing up for something, or do you think it's all just fear-mongering?

01:26:01.000 Well, you know, it has been fear-mongering up to this point.

01:26:04.000 The U.S.

01:26:05.000 has got such a bad reputation for crying wolf now with the American people that everyone goes ho-hum when they talk about a terrorist warning.

01:26:11.000 But there was something different about this terrorist attack where Ashcroft and Mueller got on national television and said, we've got a big one coming.

01:26:18.000 Now, we don't have anything specific as to who, when, where, by what methods, or how, but, you know, that's always very suspicious.

01:26:25.000 But nevertheless, I'm getting indications from subscribers who have relatives or themselves work for major corporations in

01:26:33.000 the east who are getting

01:26:35.000 you know behind-the-scenes warnings from uh... homeland security to stand in

01:26:40.000 Yeah, let me add to that.

01:26:42.000 We're getting, look, it isn't we think something might happen, orange alert, worship us and you'll be safe.

01:26:48.000 We're getting the same propaganda we got before 9-11, the same preparation, the same verbiage.

01:26:53.000 They told U.S.

01:26:54.000 News and World Report, the White House did, that there will be an attack, the government may be, you know, severed the legislative, you know, that's what's chilling about this.

01:27:05.000 Well, you know, what's also chilling is a little bit of game-playing going on.

01:27:08.000 The White House and Homeland Security came out and said that we were not advised about this news conference when Ashcroft and Mueller came out announcing this terrorist attack coming in June.

01:27:19.000 Now, I'm just not buying this.

01:27:21.000 This sounds to me like one hand of the government is saying, yeah, we warned you, and the other hand is saying, we didn't have any specific warnings, so we aren't guilty when it comes to pass.

01:27:29.000 I mean, frankly, You know, from the evidence we have of 9-11 in Oklahoma City that you've put out, and I've researched, indicating a very strong government hand, not only allowing it to occur through third parties, but through supplying the explosives, the training, the cover stories, all of the things that went into this very sophisticated operation of 9-11, I frankly don't believe that these high-profile terrorist attacks, with

01:27:58.000 In the exclusion of any normal terrorism, this is a very interesting conundrum, Alex.

01:28:04.000 You know, you can't have it both ways.

01:28:06.000 The government cannot claim that Al-Qaeda is this worldwide, powerful, tremendously well-funded organization, and yet doesn't have the power to penetrate our open borders and do any normal, small terrorist attack, like car bombs.

01:28:19.000 Or suicide attacks, or electrical pylon destructions.

01:28:23.000 I mean, you have hundreds of thousands of these out on the rural countryside with no protection whatsoever.

01:28:28.000 How hard is that to blow one of those up and create a... No, it's only big theatrical events.

01:28:34.000 And this is a key to my claim that this is controlled terrorism.

01:28:38.000 This is, you know, working through third parties and giving them the go-ahead.

01:28:42.000 I mean, frankly, it's just unbelievable when you compare Israel with a hundred times more security than we have.

01:28:49.000 Having nearly daily or weekly terrorist attacks.

01:28:52.000 And we claim we've got them on the run and they can't touch us?

01:28:55.000 With all of our, you know... Well, we know Al-Qaeda is a CIA fiction, a creation. 0.70

01:29:00.000 You know, using Al-Qaeda to get the Serbs to fight in the late 90's.

01:29:04.000 And we understand all that.

01:29:05.000 And clearly, to believe their official story of 9-11, that's the biggest conspiracy theory of them all.

01:29:12.000 Yes, it is.

01:29:15.000 I'm not buying the fact that the government has no knowledge.

01:29:18.000 In fact, we're getting lots of little symbols that people are getting warned and not to travel on certain time dates and things like that, just like before 9-11.

01:29:27.000 The same M.O.

01:29:28.000 and then the same propaganda coming out.

01:29:29.000 Yes, exactly.

01:29:30.000 You know, they're drilling us.

01:29:32.000 What do you do with the terror strikes?

01:29:33.000 Give your freedom up now.

01:29:35.000 You know, it's like Jim Jones brainwashing.

01:29:35.000 Say it again.

01:29:38.000 We'll be right back with Joel Skelson and more.

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01:33:21.000 uh... jules gelson uh...

01:33:23.000 you know we've heard june early july we've heard this before you know it

01:33:27.000 could be more psychological operations Either way it's a psychological operation, whether they carry out attacks or not.

01:33:35.000 But the approval ratings are plunging, and that means the approval ratings for what the globalists are doing.

01:33:40.000 There's been a big movement against the Patriot Act.

01:33:42.000 If they carry out another terror attack, they can say, see?

01:33:45.000 You stopped us from protecting you.

01:33:47.000 It's all your fault.

01:33:49.000 Now listen to us.

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01:33:52.000 We have top generals talking about, well, there's another terror attack. 0.99

01:33:55.000 You know, it's sad to say the people want a military government.

01:33:58.000 and in general everheart the l a times ahead of north comes and well troops are

01:34:02.000 watching you and there's gonna be more troops and and we have all this going on we have a centrally martial

01:34:08.000 law in georgia earlier this week with the g eight summit

01:34:11.000 uh... we have all this happening so go over some of those dates with us and

01:34:14.000 and and and and and it looks like a massive uh... preparation psychologically

01:34:20.000 for civil emergency for martial law well i think we have to remember that uh...

01:34:26.000 That's probably a longer term scenario.

01:34:28.000 I don't believe that the U.S.

01:34:30.000 has the manpower to invoke martial law.

01:34:33.000 They can't hardly handle the manpower requirements of Iraq right now.

01:34:36.000 It really does take a lot of manpower to do a full martial law scenario.

01:34:40.000 What they end up trying to do is get us accustomed to these things through piecemeal intervention and small doses of martial law, such as what happened during the sniper attack, 9-11 shutting down the aircraft system, Shutting down the freeways around the snipers in Washington, D.C.

01:34:58.000 You know, most of that stuff is unnecessary and really damages the economy.

01:35:02.000 Even during 9-11, you know, all they would have had to do was land all the aircraft, rescreen the passengers, put it back on the jets and keep things flying.

01:35:11.000 But what did they do?

01:35:12.000 They nearly destroyed the airlines by shutting it down.

01:35:15.000 In fact, I've said in my various interviews on preparing for terrorism that the greatest danger to your safety and welfare is from the government reactions to a small area terrorist attack.

01:35:27.000 Honest terrorists are only capable of doing attacks that affect a very small area.

01:35:32.000 And by honest you mean real that isn't state-sponsored.

01:35:35.000 That's what I mean.

01:35:36.000 Well, Joel, I totally agree with you that they're not going to have a massive total martial law, whole country locked down.

01:35:42.000 But we see in Georgia, we see in these protests, many martial laws.

01:35:46.000 And I mean Another terror attack to scare us back into submission, to accept putting in more Homeland Security cameras.

01:35:53.000 Each attack becoming bigger, a bigger escalation, more control, phasing us in incrementally into a higher level of martial law.

01:36:00.000 We're certainly already under a certain degree of it.

01:36:03.000 Precisely, and that's what I'm saying.

01:36:04.000 It's like getting used to the gas prices.

01:36:06.000 Who would have thought that people would breathe a sigh of relief to see gas at $189?

01:36:11.000 I mean, you stop and kick yourself.

01:36:13.000 What am I saying?

01:36:14.000 This isn't cheap, you know, but you're psychologically conditioned after being pushed up, and that's what they do.

01:36:20.000 They'll never let gas prices go down, even if market forces demand it, because they've got a good thing going.

01:36:25.000 The same thing with security.

01:36:26.000 People get used to being harassed.

01:36:28.000 People get used to being scrutinized in a very indiscriminate method.

01:36:34.000 So, I'm really worried about the nature of people to get accustomed.

01:36:38.000 Now, they have a rule, by the way, and that is they will not inconvenience the majority of people for a long period of time.

01:36:44.000 They know that is deadly with Americans, because Americans have a very short fuse, in terms of impatience, with being inconvenienced.

01:36:53.000 And so... So they're telling us that national ID cards, RFID chips on our license plates, that, in fact, I've seen them pitching the national ID card as convenience, convenience, convenience.

01:37:06.000 Yes, and the big pitch, of course, will be security.

01:37:09.000 That's why this rash of identity theft is a little bit suspect, just like the rash of viruses.

01:37:14.000 It wouldn't doubt it, you know, if the government itself puts out a lot of those in order to keep an excuse to be able to be intruding in people's emails.

01:37:22.000 They'd really like to scare people with identity theft so that they can get people to be crying out for some kind of foolproof identity.

01:37:30.000 And now, of course, they're requiring these biometric requirements and passports from other countries.

01:37:35.000 They're locking us down slowly but surely.

01:37:37.000 But remember that Americans will resist a new world order, and the globalists know this, when you start hauling farmers from the Midwest for a wetland violation before the Hague.

01:37:50.000 in a court having to hire international attorneys, they'll say, get us out of these international organizations.

01:37:55.000 That is why I think ultimately they know they have to have a world war

01:37:59.000 that targets the United States to get Americans to stop thinking about their own constitution, their own security,

01:38:05.000 and cry out for someone to save them.

01:38:07.000 Well, that's what PNAC says, is that Iraq is only the launch point to antagonize the Arabs under the P2OG office to get them to actually fight back.

01:38:17.000 Then it expands, then we're under attack, oh now we've got to have a huge national draft.

01:38:23.000 Talk about the draft.

01:38:24.000 Well, before I do that, let me interject here about PNAC.

01:38:29.000 It's a little bit of disinformation however.

01:38:32.000 It makes it out as if the purpose of PNAC is to have the purpose of all of this global intervention Is to pursue democracy, and to make the U.S.

01:38:40.000 a leader, even if it's dominant, even through using force, to purify the world of these tyrants.

01:38:46.000 And that is not their purpose.

01:38:48.000 Well, of course they've got propaganda, but then right there in it, they tell us it's a dominant threat, it's about the oil, we want to invade 63 countries, I mean, it's all there.

01:38:56.000 Yeah, but what I'm saying, the whole purpose of that is basically to project enough antagonism to engender a reaction.

01:39:04.000 A retaliation against the P2OG. 1.00

01:39:07.000 But that doesn't say so.

01:39:09.000 They don't say they're trying to provoke a reaction.

01:39:11.000 That's the secret.

01:39:13.000 You see, that's... Well, Joel, what I just stated was, I said, PNAC says this, and then I said, the Pentagon office of P2OG, with $7 million in funding, with Rumsfeld, says we're going to go out and get the Arabs to attack us. 0.70

01:39:26.000 Well, I haven't seen that.

01:39:27.000 Have you seen P-2-O-G? 1.00

01:39:29.000 I haven't.

01:39:29.000 You'll have to send me a copy of that.

01:39:31.000 Just type P-2-O-G into a search engine and you'll get LA Times, Associated Press, UPI.

01:39:37.000 The reason I'm skeptical, you know, these people don't let the cat out of the bag.

01:39:41.000 They don't tell their real plan.

01:39:44.000 Well, it's like last week, the memo's coming out about the president's above the law, he's above federal law, torture's okay. 0.98

01:39:44.000 I mean, they're not stupid. 0.98

01:39:50.000 I mean, this stuff is all coming out. 0.95

01:39:52.000 Yeah, but then they're denying it.

01:39:53.000 You know, they're denying that they ever acted upon that.

01:39:58.000 I mean, these people don't openly admit that they're trying to antagonize the world and get it back.

01:40:02.000 Well, they went to Congress for the seven million in funding for P2OG.

01:40:05.000 And P2OG says we're going to get them to attack us. 0.99

01:40:09.000 All right, I'll take a look at it, but you know, that goes against everything smart that these people aren't dumb.

01:40:15.000 Well, they're very arrogant, though, and they don't think most people are going to I mean, it's like Total Information Awareness Network.

01:40:20.000 They never got rid of that.

01:40:21.000 I mean, it's just a part of Echelon hooked into the Matrix system locally.

01:40:25.000 And, I mean, they announced all that.

01:40:27.000 Everything you do, we're going to watch you.

01:40:28.000 It's so good.

01:40:29.000 It's like the TIPS program.

01:40:30.000 I think this is all part of a conditioning process.

01:40:33.000 Yeah, certainly.

01:40:34.000 In fact, I have friends who are good friends with John Poindexter and, you know, they send him very naively information saying that TIPS and, you know, the Total Awareness System is still uh... info can he denied that i've got the mail you know

01:40:50.000 showing his denial so it you know that

01:40:54.000 they are very careful not to uh...

01:40:56.000 you know what people know what they're really up to well i mean there's a bunch of examples of this where

01:41:02.000 uh...

01:41:03.000 i mean they they come out with a lot of things to try to sell us on and

01:41:06.000 then we don't like it and i was brought to diet

01:41:09.000 even when it's their own press release I don't know why I'm doing this.

01:41:13.000 I see a lot of that, Joel.

01:41:14.000 I see a lot of cases where they come out and say what they're going to do.

01:41:17.000 I mean, I think they do it blatantly.

01:41:22.000 Okay, well, I'm just, you know, they have all kinds of surreptitious and euphemisms for these types of things.

01:41:33.000 You know, if it's blatant, you know, I don't see them blatantly doing it, but we'll have to see.

01:41:40.000 I just had about 20 examples of that pop in my head.

01:41:45.000 Let's talk about the draft.

01:41:46.000 There's another example.

01:41:47.000 They've got all these draft bills introduced, trying to get the draft boards reactivated, giving more money to Selective Service.

01:41:53.000 They've got Senators and Congressmen calling for the draft.

01:41:57.000 I mean, that's blatant right there.

01:41:59.000 It is, but the purpose of what they're saying is not blatant.

01:42:03.000 They're not advertising that they're trying to get us into World War III.

01:42:09.000 And I think there's a lot of sophisticated planning going into how you manipulate people into, you know, supporting a draft.

01:42:17.000 They're doing it piecemeal right now.

01:42:18.000 You know, they're doing recalls.

01:42:20.000 They're using the ready reserve, which is actually not ready.

01:42:27.000 The inactive reserve, they're starting to activate that.

01:42:29.000 That's a legal thing they can't use without going to the draft.

01:42:31.000 They're extending People's deployments are making a lot of people mad.

01:42:36.000 Obviously, though, they're starting a debate nationally about the drafts, so when the next big attack comes, oh, see, we do have to have it.

01:42:43.000 They have started the debate.

01:42:45.000 Although it's at a very low level.

01:42:47.000 You know, nobody wants to come out and put their political neck out for the draft.

01:42:52.000 Senator Hagel did two weeks ago.

01:42:54.000 Yeah, but you have your guys.

01:42:55.000 Rangel.

01:42:58.000 They just test the waters a little bit, but they don't get out and make a drumbeat of it, because they'll get unelected if they do that.

01:43:03.000 Well, have you seen how many co-sponsors S89's got?

01:43:06.000 Well, there's an awful lot of yes-men in Congress.

01:43:08.000 I would suspect that about 75% of Congress is controlled, actually, by our globalist insiders who control government.

01:43:15.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:43:17.000 But what I'm saying is, with that high of a number, still a lot of them are too smart to say, hey, I don't want to get my name on this, or if a push comes to shove, you know, I'll want to be able to withdraw.

01:43:28.000 I mean, there still isn't the drumbeat yet.

01:43:30.000 They're, I think, working the soft sell by having selective drafts.

01:43:34.000 Medical people are being drafted right now, and other things, special technical skills.

01:43:39.000 But a general draft, especially one that involves women, that's still too much for the American people to swallow.

01:43:45.000 But I agree with you, they're prepping us for it.

01:43:48.000 But, you know, a big terrorist attack If they pull one off that's even much bigger and more widespread than 9-11, this could justify a draft.

01:43:57.000 We could see this.

01:43:58.000 Now, one of the things I'm looking at relative to having 10 U.S.

01:44:02.000 aircraft carrier strike groups out at this time, it appears to me that they may well have a nation designated, in my tough suspicion of Syria, as the one to blame for this upcoming terrorist attack.

01:44:17.000 And it looks to me like they may when I published in my World Affairs Brief today the location of all the carrier groups You've got three going to the Far East, but you've got all the rest circulating around in the Atlantic Ocean, heading for the Middle East.

01:44:34.000 Yeah, the three are going to make sure North Korea doesn't try anything, because they're rotating troops out of South Korea into the Middle East.

01:44:40.000 And at the same time, they said they want to go into Syria next.

01:44:43.000 That's what I was told a year ago by one of my Special Forces officers' cousins.

01:44:48.000 And at the same time, right before 9-11, they had 44,000 U.S.

01:44:53.000 troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, 18,000 British troops, and now, covertly, they're rotating even more troops.

01:44:59.000 They even said late yesterday, they're going to build up the troops in Iraq now.

01:45:03.000 Yes, they went to, going to 145,000, something like that?

01:45:07.000 Yeah, from 122,000.

01:45:09.000 Well, you know what's interesting too, a lot of people don't realize, we have 70,000 private contractors there as well.

01:45:16.000 That's an awful lot of off the record type numbers.

01:45:19.000 By the way, they don't count those numbers of dead either in the tally.

01:45:23.000 That's correct.

01:45:24.000 What numbers are you getting on the numbers of dead contractors?

01:45:29.000 I have seen numbers as high as 500.

01:45:31.000 Now is that counting Afghanistan and Iraq?

01:45:37.000 I don't have anything on Afghanistan, just Iraq.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, I got well over five hundred, that's what I'm getting from different sources, on Iraq, and over five hundred there in Afghanistan.

01:45:47.000 Well, I haven't seen those numbers, but that wouldn't surprise me.

01:45:50.000 There's really not a lot of news coming out of Afghanistan.

01:45:53.000 Well, a bunch of Chinese got killed yesterday in Afghanistan.

01:45:56.000 I saw that.

01:45:57.000 And you say, hey, where did the Chinese get in on this?

01:46:01.000 But obviously we have a lot of dealings that the U.S.

01:46:04.000 isn't telling the American public about.

01:46:07.000 Relative to these carrier deployments, the U.S.

01:46:11.000 government says, of course, this is just part of a regular training schedule exercise called Summer Pulse 04, but look, right on the website of the USS George Washington, which is steaming towards the Gulf right now to rotate into that area, they had to cancel their, what they call, Tiger Cruises, where they let children of sailors come on board and take them on a tour around the harbor, etc.

01:46:32.000 They wouldn't have scheduled a tiger cruise with the children of the sailors and disappointed them by pulling out of port within a week's notice had this thing been scheduled since July.

01:46:42.000 is lying to their teeth.

01:46:42.000 The U.S.

01:46:43.000 This is a massive, instantaneous deployment.

01:46:46.000 These people are going out without spare parts, without all the complement.

01:46:49.000 Meanwhile, the Russians and the Chinese are putting to sea. 0.92

01:46:52.000 That's right.

01:46:52.000 The entire Eastern Navy of Russia is out to sea right now, and that's one of the reasons why we've got, I think, three carrier task force heading that direction.

01:47:01.000 They may be testing one another.

01:47:03.000 You know, the U.S.

01:47:04.000 often will pull surprise exercises just to see via their satellite listening data how China and Russia are going to react to those things.

01:47:12.000 Okay, let's take a few calls here.

01:47:13.000 Danny in Tennessee, go ahead, you're on the air.

01:47:16.000 Alex, hey, I've got a quick bit of info for you and then a question for your guest.

01:47:21.000 I watched the latest episode on Prison Planet TV of your show and it really shook me to the core.

01:47:28.000 And a couple of days ago I emailed you the actual survey that I took in the Marine Corps.

01:47:33.000 And in your show you... Oh, wait a minute.

01:47:34.000 When did you email that to me?

01:47:36.000 Um, I think, uh, it was either yesterday or the day before.

01:47:40.000 Hey, uh, uh, uh, email it to the webmaster at PrisonPlanet.com.

01:47:45.000 Okay, I'll see... I may have missed it in between all the spam, but go ahead and get to your question, Danny.

01:47:50.000 Um, well, what I wanted to let you know, in your show, you had talked about how the Marines that Well, yeah, what they do is they rotate them overseas, give them the dangerous vaccines, and then those, the 24% on average that say yes, they stay here domestically.

01:48:08.000 Right, and what's happened to me, I kept going to the VA for my back and my hips just been killing me the last year, and the VA kept saying, oh, you're born that way, there's nothing wrong with you.

01:48:20.000 So, finally, under the Freedom of Information Act and Privacy Act, I wrote the VA and got on my medical record.

01:48:26.000 Okay, so what happened?

01:48:27.000 I found out my body is full of tumors that I'm probably dying of bone cancer.

01:48:34.000 Oh, man, that's terrible.

01:48:35.000 Send me some info on that, Danny, and any comments to what he's saying, Joel?

01:48:41.000 Well, this is one of the greatest scandals and crimes of our government, claiming to support our troops and yet forcing upon them experimental vaccines and filled with other, you know, very dangerous chemicals.

01:48:55.000 There are natural remedies and solutions to cancer that are much better, so if you're going the conventional route for treatment, do consider the alternative therapies.

01:49:05.000 And, Joel, I wanted to ask you also... We've got a bunch of callers here, and he's got to leave in a few minutes, Danny.

01:49:09.000 Okay.

01:49:10.000 What's your question?

01:49:11.000 Ten seconds.

01:49:12.000 Real fast, Joe, I worked anti-terrorism in the Marine Corps, and I've been studying the New World Order for the last ten years, and my understanding of what's going to happen is the U.S.

01:49:22.000 is doing kind of a blood-in-the-street strategy to enrage all the Arabs to attack, and once we're fighting that war, there's going to be a North Korean, possibly, nuclear... Okay, let me get his comment on that, Joel. 0.53

01:49:33.000 Well, that's one of the possible scenarios.

01:49:35.000 Clearly, antagonism is the name of the game.

01:49:38.000 I don't think it's going to be a piecemeal attack, though.

01:49:40.000 I think that at some point, the antagonism will get bad enough toward the United States that Russia will say, we've got the justification to throw a nuclear preemptive strike at America.

01:49:49.000 China will back us up.

01:49:50.000 And now under PDD-60 our government's going to accept that first strike.

01:49:54.000 Which will mean total devastation, which shows a higher level control of this.

01:49:54.000 That's right.

01:49:58.000 Absolutely.

01:49:59.000 Alright, Joel, another example.

01:50:01.000 Remember two years ago, a year and a half ago, Rumsfeld puts out three battle plans to attack North Korea.

01:50:06.000 I mean, they do throw this in people's faces, trying to get North Korea to pull something.

01:50:12.000 Or test the reaction.

01:50:13.000 I'm not sure that this is intended to go yet, although I frankly believe the U.S.

01:50:18.000 has been anxious to get this attack underway to increase globalism, and the Russians are the ones who are dragging their feet. 0.83

01:50:24.000 They're scared of the high-tech U.S.

01:50:26.000 military and want to postpone until they think they're ready.

01:50:28.000 Yeah, this is all part of playing possum.

01:50:31.000 Then they bring out the superweapons.

01:50:32.000 Yes, exactly.

01:50:35.000 The space-based particle weapons.

01:50:38.000 Alright, we'll be back.

01:50:39.000 We'll talk to John and Richard and John and a few others.

01:50:43.000 I might try to keep Joel five minutes to the next hour and then get the next docker we got coming on about bioweapons.

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01:55:47.000 Alright, uh, quickly callers, John in Tennessee, you're on the air.

01:55:51.000 In, uh, Cigar Aficionado Magazine, uh, the man who invaded Iraq, Jewish General Tommy Frank, said the U.S.

01:55:57.000 military will overthrow George Bush in Congress with martial law, if there's another terror bombing of America.

01:56:03.000 He didn't exactly say that.

01:56:05.000 Well, here, the Pentagon has already tested martial law in Knoxville, Tennessee last year, When it derailed an army train and evacuated 30,000 residents.

01:56:13.000 They used smoke bombs to simulate chlorine gas but told the public it was real.

01:56:18.000 So the Pentagon is ready to work with civilian police for martial law in America today.

01:56:22.000 They can do it and replace the government with civil affairs officers just like Iraq and World War II in Europe.

01:56:29.000 They can do it.

01:56:29.000 Well they have done these fake drills and later admit they're fake.

01:56:32.000 Uh, Joel?

01:56:34.000 Listen, that's a far cry away from locking down every city and community in the United States and putting troops to guard and control people.

01:56:40.000 You just don't have the manpower to do that.

01:56:42.000 Okay, John, thanks for the call, and I just gotta say this.

01:56:45.000 I don't know that Tommy Franks is Jewish, and if he is, so what? 0.99

01:56:48.000 I mean, folks, this is not Health Things trying to make this some racial issue.

01:56:52.000 Yeah, well, you know, Tommy Franks didn't exactly say, you know, what the caller did.

01:56:52.000 Joel?

01:56:57.000 I think we have to be very careful. 0.99

01:56:59.000 These people are not stupid. 0.98

01:57:00.000 They're not going to say something that's going to get them totally distracted. 0.98

01:57:02.000 He just said, gee, it's too bad the people want the military to take over and take the liberties if something happens.

01:57:08.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Richard in Alabama.

01:57:10.000 Richard, go ahead.

01:57:12.000 Yeah, George Humphrey has a picture of an L-1011 crashing the World Trade Center on the cover of his new DVD.

01:57:20.000 Why did he choose an L-1011?

01:57:22.000 I don't know, sir.

01:57:25.000 I saw one video that did show a L-1011 hitting the tower.

01:57:30.000 I believe it was on the day after 9-11 and it was only shown once and I never saw it again.

01:57:35.000 But anyway, what is the probability they could use a phony patriot movement, a phony coup or something to smoke out the People that might be willing to rise up against the government to get them on a lift and put them away in the prison.

01:57:54.000 Okay, thanks for the call, Joel.

01:57:56.000 Now that is a doable scenario.

01:57:58.000 We know from Oklahoma City that they purposely targeted domestic militias to pin the blame on this, even though it was a government operation.

01:58:08.000 I've been in the military long enough to know there aren't...

01:58:11.000 You know, maybe a handful of no high-ranking officers that would dare go against the government.

01:58:16.000 So if they pull something, it's probably in order to smoke some people out.

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01:58:21.000 Thank you.

01:58:27.000 And we will quickly go to John and Reed and Mark.

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02:00:32.000 Right now, let us go ahead now and talk to John in Louisiana.

02:00:38.000 John, go ahead.

02:00:39.000 Yeah, you two make a great brace.

02:00:41.000 Look, our government is certainly practicing genocide.

02:00:45.000 Joel, I'd like for you to address the veracity and mendacity performance of our government, if you will, please.

02:00:52.000 There is no veracity in our government at all.

02:00:55.000 I mean, frankly, the government does play both sides.

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02:01:00.000 They also import most of the drugs within the United States.

02:01:03.000 They have a war on terrorism, but they also sponsor terrorism and ship weapons to terrorists around the world. 0.57

02:01:08.000 So the government really does play both sides of almost every coin.

02:01:12.000 They have to project the image that they are following the Constitution and defending American interests, but generally they're working for globalist agendas and for black budget or black operations. 0.91

02:01:22.000 So we shouldn't believe anything they tell us, should we?

02:01:24.000 Absolutely, not with a straight face.

02:01:27.000 Alright, Reid Nebraska.

02:01:28.000 Reid, you're on the air.

02:01:29.000 Go ahead.

02:01:31.000 Hello, I just wanted to say that I'm currently a member of the military, and it's just amazing how everybody is so brainwashed into everything that's going on.

02:01:40.000 I tried to tell them about the upcoming draft, and you know, bin Laden being found, and terror attacks and everything, and people just say that I'm crazy, and I just wanted to say that, you know, I'm in the military, but I know what's going on.

02:01:52.000 Well, what do they say about depleted uranium?

02:01:53.000 The guy that wrote the book, Dr. Rocky, literally, for the Pentagon, is sick from it, and says thousands have died, tens of thousands are sick, and our troops are now living in bases that were bombarded with it.

02:02:04.000 I mean, do the troops think breathing heavy metals are just bad enough, and uranium is good for them?

02:02:10.000 Well, they usually don't let me get that far.

02:02:11.000 You know, I'm a conspiracy theorist, and everything's crazy.

02:02:14.000 I mean, there's a couple people that's about to deploy from my unit soon, I mean, they're gung-ho to go to Iraq.

02:02:20.000 Well, they're not going to be gung-ho once they're there, the statistics show.

02:02:24.000 Joel, the numbers we're getting is that this is all-time high in bad morale.

02:02:30.000 Comments?

02:02:31.000 Absolutely.

02:02:32.000 In fact, the only reason the government is saying that they're meeting their recruitment goals is that they're paying a whopping $8,000 to $10,000 to bribe people to stay in the military.

02:02:42.000 Some of them are being forced to stay in the military.

02:02:44.000 And frankly, they're saying, well, we're meeting our goals, but they don't tell us what those goals are as a percentage of actual people leaving the service, so it's rather screwed.

02:02:55.000 Anything else, Reed?

02:02:57.000 No, just wanted to say thank you.

02:02:59.000 Y'all are doing a great job, and continue to keep up the fight.

02:03:01.000 All right, take care, my friend.

02:03:03.000 Mark in Minnesota.

02:03:04.000 Go ahead, Mark.

02:03:06.000 First, suburbified, Joel.

02:03:07.000 Thank you.

02:03:08.000 I am a frequent reader of Lou Rockwell's site, and I've been dying to ask you, Joel, Are you related to Mark Skousen at all?

02:03:17.000 Yeah, Mark Skousen is my brother.

02:03:19.000 No kidding!

02:03:20.000 He's a very well-versed economist, and Alex, I think he'd make a good guest on your show.

02:03:25.000 He'd be able to set you straight on some of your populist ideas.

02:03:29.000 Let me just interject, though, that my brother Mark is very pro-establishment on some issues, even though he's a libertarian.

02:03:37.000 He likes to kowtow with the important people in life.

02:03:40.000 Set me straight!

02:03:41.000 I'm not going to let the government take the term populist for me.

02:03:44.000 By populist, I mean for the people, the Constitution.

02:03:47.000 What, like some of the hostility towards outsourcing?

02:03:50.000 Outsourcing itself is not a problem.

02:03:52.000 It's actually very healthy.

02:03:54.000 Okay, you're being sarcastic.

02:03:56.000 So Joel's brother thinks that things like Bush, that cheeseburger jobs are manufacturing?

02:04:02.000 No, it's not.

02:04:03.000 Outsourcing isn't inherently good, but see, that's not the problem.

02:04:07.000 It's cost-cutting because the cost of capital has gone up so high.

02:04:11.000 Okay, listen, I don't want to sit here and attack Joel's brother.

02:04:14.000 I don't think I've read his mind.

02:04:17.000 Okay, send me his contact info.

02:04:19.000 Take care, Mark.

02:04:21.000 Joel, you've got the final comment.

02:04:23.000 Well, I appreciate what you do.

02:04:26.000 There is a battle between true libertarian thought and liberty versus this controlled, mercantilist, pro-government corporation free trade, and that's not true free trade.

02:04:36.000 That's my word on that.

02:04:38.000 Well, I would agree with you on that, and if your brother says that, I agree as well.

02:04:41.000 Thanks for joining us, Joel.

02:04:42.000 Okay, thanks.

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02:08:03.000 And I'm honored to be joined by the President of the San Francisco Bay Physicians for Social Responsibility and I was reading a Sunshine Project document concerning the fact that these Level 4 bio-weapons labs, the BioShield, you know, five plus billion dollars of funding Bush got to build three dozen Level 4 bio-weapons labs.

02:08:27.000 Jane's Weapons Publications have talked about this.

02:08:29.000 This is a cover for weapons production.

02:08:33.000 And PNAC and others talk about race-specific bio-weapons, and we know Israel, the US, England, the Russians, others have been developing this.

02:08:43.000 And it's very frightening, and much more dangerous, frankly, than nuclear weapons, my friends.

02:08:50.000 Because once it's out, it's out of control.

02:08:53.000 And he's Dr. Robert Gould.

02:08:57.000 He is a pathologist, and it's good to have him on with us.

02:09:00.000 Doctor, welcome.

02:09:02.000 My pleasure to be on, Alex.

02:09:04.000 Thanks for having me.

02:09:05.000 Oh, you bet.

02:09:05.000 It's an honor to have you.

02:09:07.000 I mean, regardless of what political bent somebody's a part of, our government shakes their fists at all these third world dustbins who don't even have you know, primitive 1940s bioweapons, but then 1.00

02:09:20.000 there's no telling what high-tech stuff our government's got. I'd like to go over that with you.

02:09:24.000 Certainly. Well, this is one of the major issues that are definitely hitting our country and

02:09:31.000 the world in terms of what the United States position has been on

02:09:35.000 as regarding how do we control the new technologies in particular,

02:09:40.000 how do we keep these new technologies, genetic modification, and a lot of other

02:09:44.000 similar types of genetic engineering techniques from being used to develop new biological

02:09:53.000 weapons.

02:09:54.000 Right now, according to the General American Medical Association, an article that came out at the end of the 1990s, there are about 70 different organisms that we know right now have the potential for being biological weapons.

02:10:12.000 This is before any modification.

02:10:14.000 These include various bacteria, viruses, fungal organisms, and others.

02:10:21.000 And for these organisms, only about 30% of them are susceptible to vaccines or other countermeasures so the main problem that the world faces is the fact that offense in terms of weapons development always has a major advantage over defense because if you're going to develop a vaccine say for any particular organism you have to know what the organism is and the vaccine can only be used in a very specific way against that

02:10:49.000 And for vaccines to work in human beings, you need some lead time.

02:10:54.000 So you have to give the vaccine, the body has to develop its ability to respond and deal with that organism.

02:11:00.000 But if you get into the type of situation where governments or other actors are going to start using the genetic modification techniques, organisms could be developed that would be resistant to any sort of antibiotic or vaccine.

02:11:19.000 And this is the extreme danger of the type of work that the United States is entertaining doing in its plans for developing a nationwide system of so-called biodefense labs.

02:11:32.000 And we'll talk about, I mean, obviously in the black budget shadow programs, this is massive, it's going on, but now they're going public with it, and the Boston newspapers have talked about it, The big Washington papers have discussed it.

02:11:49.000 In one article in the Baltimore Sun, they said they're going to produce thousands of gallons of liquid death, that they're building these dangerous things that are more dangerous than nuclear power plants, folks.

02:11:59.000 All over our communities, three dozen of them.

02:12:02.000 But let's give people a case point example.

02:12:03.000 A couple years ago, through universities and the government in Australia, they took this mousepox, kills all the mice that come in contact with it, and they put out the Well, it's a good question, and it really points to the dangerous nature of such type of experiments.

02:12:19.000 There's additional evidence pointing to these problems.

02:12:21.000 What's the ingredients of this?

02:12:24.000 Well it's a good question and it really points to the dangerous nature of such type of experiments.

02:12:31.000 You know, there's additional evidence pointing to these problems.

02:12:35.000 A number of years ago, the old biological weapons facility in Great Britain, the Port

02:12:41.000 and Downs facility, was reported to have violated its own lab guidelines and synthesized a combination

02:12:49.000 of dengue fever and hepatitis, an organism made of those two.

02:12:54.000 That would likely be more dangerous than AIDS.

02:12:57.000 And that's just what we know about.

02:12:58.000 Were you aware that four years ago, it was in Scott Television, London Telegraph as well, that, oh, by the way, we think we accidentally released or somebody stole weaponized foot and mouth, and then that's what caused that whole crisis.

02:13:11.000 So, oh, this stuff could be accidentally released?

02:13:14.000 I mean, this is incredible.

02:13:16.000 Well, accidents can always happen, and that's why we really need to get control over these organisms.

02:13:22.000 A Russian scientist just died who got exposed to Ebola in a lab.

02:13:27.000 That's correct.

02:13:27.000 That happened in Russia.

02:13:31.000 And, you know, the thing is, this is the reason why a lot of community organizations around the country For very good reason, are opposing the siting of labs in their communities.

02:13:42.000 Where are some of the places they want to build these three dozen?

02:13:45.000 Well, first off, you know, just for your listeners, if they want to get the best information of where the plans are, the Sunshine Project at www.sunshineproject.org.

02:13:58.000 We have a link to the subsection, by the way, on InfoWars.com.

02:14:00.000 That's terrific, because they've just developed, and they've been doing a series of updated maps of what the proposed uh... bio defense facilities are around the country and

02:14:10.000 just came out with one uh... within the last two weeks i'd really urge the uh...

02:14:14.000 listeners to log on and actually see for themselves what the various

02:14:18.000 plans are but there are other plans as indicated on those maps to put

02:14:23.000 these facilities all around the country and so for example

02:14:27.000 uh... there are proposals to build one in conjunction with boston university

02:14:31.000 They already have started it at UT down on the coast.

02:14:37.000 That's correct, and despite very strenuous efforts by folks at Sunshine, the folks at UT have really, up until this point, refused to at all comply with the transparency that's really required.

02:14:54.000 What are they actually working with?

02:14:56.000 What are their procedures to guarantee that any organisms they work with won't escape into the community?

02:15:01.000 We really need to know, as an informed citizenry, what type of work is going on in these areas.

02:15:07.000 And, you know, there are areas, for example, getting back to the situation in Boston, where this is the proposed labs being proposed for, you know, the typical type of neighborhood where people are poor, people of color.

02:15:23.000 And it's in the middle of a major metropolitan area.

02:15:26.000 And a plane could crash into it?

02:15:28.000 A gas main could blow up?

02:15:30.000 Anything could happen.

02:15:31.000 Just as we're seeing with this recent anthrax problem, lab accidents do happen.

02:15:38.000 A number of years ago, myself and some colleagues who've written on this had a letter published in the New England Journal of Medicine regarding the fact that There was a researcher at Fort Detrick, the United States premier, quote-unquote, biodefense lab, who came down with a case of Glanders that he was working with.

02:15:58.000 Glanders is a disease that's not contagious, but nonetheless, it wasn't diagnosed until he was out in the community.

02:16:06.000 Yeah, that's what's going to happen.

02:16:08.000 And are you familiar with Jane's Weapons Publications?

02:16:11.000 Yes.

02:16:11.000 I mean, I don't read it regularly, but I know of... Well, they are the premier.

02:16:15.000 I mean, they told us about the B-2 bomber years before it came out.

02:16:18.000 They put out a rare alert last year going, look, Israel, England, and the U.S.

02:16:23.000 are developing race-specific bioweapons. 0.71

02:16:25.000 This is totally dangerous and totally evil.

02:16:28.000 And then PNAC talked about, oh, we need to discuss the use of this in warfare.

02:16:32.000 I mean, were you aware of that?

02:16:34.000 Well, I'd be a little cautious on the race-specific weapons.

02:16:37.000 I know that there have been people who've been planning, you know, think that this might be a good idea.

02:16:43.000 South Africa?

02:16:44.000 South Africans, for example, were reported During the coverage of the so-called Dr. Death, the physician who worked with South African intelligence and as well in developing biological weapons programs for use in Zimbabwe and Rhodesia, that they were working on this.

02:17:05.000 But we have to remember that the human beings, despite our racial and ethnic differences, of more genetic similarities than differences.

02:17:14.000 So there are major problems, theoretically, in being able to develop... But now that the genome has been published with IBM and the government... But the point is, Alex, is that there's still, even if we have a published genome, there's still, and it has been discovered from a lot of the genetic research, including the genetic mapping, That we share more genes, much more genes, for individual to individual, race to race, than we differ.

02:17:41.000 Well, I agree, but my point is, doctor, they're working on these systems.

02:17:45.000 We have evidence that this stuff can be released.

02:17:47.000 We have a track record of that.

02:17:48.000 This should be totally banned.

02:17:50.000 Well, yeah, I don't disagree at all that these types of technologies should be banned.

02:17:55.000 All I'm trying to indicate is that We should be careful in terms of what we're saying is out there and really developed because there are major theoretical genetic problems in terms of being able to use a weapon against one group without having it really backfire and... Well, my point is that they admit that it's been worked on and studied.

02:18:16.000 Yeah, well, there's a lot of secret research that's going on.

02:18:19.000 I think that we need to... the general problem that we're talking about here really is the fact that any sort of genetic modification is going on with these organisms because this presages a biological arms race.

02:18:36.000 I mean, let's get into that after the break, Dr., because that's really the crux of all this and we're honored to have you.

02:18:40.000 But what about the chimeras?

02:18:41.000 I mean, they've got goats that produce spider web for body armor, and I have the CEO on the show, and people still deny it's even going on.

02:18:51.000 Well, you know, I mean, these are the things that need the sort of transparency and open look that you're providing on your show.

02:18:59.000 But I mean, how did it get to the point of spider goats and the average public?

02:19:02.000 There's not even debate going on!

02:19:04.000 well that's that's a problem we need to be able to pressure on our country

02:19:07.000 because unfortunately it's been our country that is rejected

02:19:11.000 the really important to negotiations and plans to be able to get some controls

02:19:16.000 over this is the only type of experiments don't happen you know who

02:19:18.000 knows what's going to happen splicing goats and spiders well this is why we

02:19:23.000 need uh... you know i mean it has the bottom line all of this

02:19:26.000 is what we need the strongest possible biological weapons convention much

02:19:31.000 stronger than we have it now.

02:19:33.000 Stay there, we've got a break, doctor.

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02:24:04.000 You know, Americans shouldn't be experts on Madonna and Michael Jackson and Britney Spears or on football.

02:24:10.000 Spend some time on that, but you might want to find out that all over the world they have accidents at these Level 3, Level 4 bioweapons labs, and people die and horrible stuff gets released.

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02:24:23.000 UT, I guess their nuclear reactor in downtown Austin isn't enough for them that no one seems to know about that's been there for 38 years.

02:24:30.000 You know, we have all of this happening, and people need to know about it!

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02:24:44.000 We need to be informed about this.

02:24:46.000 But Big Pharma doesn't want you to be informed about it.

02:24:50.000 Uh, but, I'm sure you know how to have your belly button ring properly adorning you, though. 1.00

02:24:54.000 Uh, but not that our whole planet could be destroyed by this.

02:24:57.000 Doctor, The stuff they've developed, the stuff we know that's out there, I mean, we're talking about killing billions of people possibly, are we not?

02:25:07.000 I mean, it depends on the organism, but again, if we're going to start...

02:25:12.000 Manufacturing new organisms that we don't have any natural resistance to in our species, the possibilities are really endless in that way.

02:25:22.000 And this is why this research in particular needs to come under very tight international control.

02:25:30.000 The other thing, I mean, since you have to mention the nuclear reactor issue, is another issue that we also have to think about as regards some of the programs.

02:25:39.000 So, for example, Some of the labs that are being slated are, for example, in my own hometown in the San Francisco Bay Area, there's a BSL-3 lab being proposed for being at the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Lab.

02:25:56.000 So already you have a sort of facility that is already operating because it's a weapons lab under a very, you know, secret type of jurisdiction.

02:26:07.000 Also, we have double danger there!

02:26:09.000 Well, yeah, and that's why many of the local community groups in our own area of the really excellent work of Mayor Leah Kelly and Tri-Valley Cares and parallel work with Jay Coughlin and his group at the Los Alamos Labs.

02:26:25.000 ...have been very important in terms of challenging the siting of such labs.

02:26:28.000 In fact, I've referred the listeners to an excellent article called, basically, Bugs and Bombs, which talks about this particular problem that was published in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists last fall, I believe the September issue.

02:26:44.000 But sir, doctor, you know, then we have a debate about where to put them, so they put them out in Montana.

02:26:49.000 Bottom line, as I've read the evidence and you've talked about it, these are really also offensive dual-use labs.

02:26:56.000 I mean, as the Baltimore Sun said, thousands of gallons of liquid death.

02:26:59.000 Right.

02:27:01.000 And the people in Montana who have been opposing Mary Wolf and her group out there have been opposing, righteously, the plans to put it out in a rural area where, if there were an accident, is a place which is Very underserved in terms of physicians and hospitals, so the capacity for something escaping and causing havoc there is also of concern.

02:27:26.000 Even though it's not a populated area.

02:27:28.000 Spreading and not being recognized by an expert.

02:27:31.000 Exactly.

02:27:33.000 You know, just last week, as came out in the press, somebody working on the lab facilities in the area uh... contracted uh... salmonella from from actual work so again illustrating i mean uh... coming out salmonella doesn't pose the public health threat that say a uh... a super virus or something else that would be developed uh... would point is but nonetheless it indicates the problems that are inherent in this type of work

02:28:02.000 It's incredible, Doctor.

02:28:03.000 You know, you talk about treaties, the U.N.

02:28:06.000 The U.N.

02:28:06.000 is hopelessly corrupt and controlled by the same military-industrial complex, but certainly we should have treaties between countries, sanctions against countries by other countries that don't.

02:28:16.000 But I mean, our government doesn't even follow the treaties it signs on to, but then will attack countries that refuse to sign on to treaties.

02:28:24.000 And as well, unfortunately, in terms of the strategic policies of our own country in this administration, As opposed to doing the necessary things to control the weapons at the international level, such as having a stronger biological weapons convention, instead we're going ahead with, under the policies of quote-unquote, counter-proliferation, justifying the development of a whole new generation of nuclear weapons to supposedly take out hardened command posts and hardened facilities.

02:28:53.000 Yeah, micro-nukes.

02:28:55.000 Yeah, mini-nukes and bunker-busters.

02:28:58.000 This threatens a whole new generation of nuclear weapons proliferation.

02:29:03.000 Supposedly, in this case, to control biological and chemical weapons, but actually more than, you know, this itself poses a severe threat.

02:29:14.000 We can just see from the relatively recent revelations of the ability of the Pakistani program under Dr. Khan To basically have brochures to spread nuclear technology... By the way, Bush ordered the FBI not to investigate that two years ago.

02:29:33.000 We'll be right back.

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02:33:29.000 And we've had on their representatives, their experts many times, breaking major news report after major news report.

02:33:34.000 I was even unaware until this morning when I saw it, that they had finally gotten the map from the feds of where they're going to put all these nasty facilities.

02:33:41.000 And a lot of them are already up and running in existing facilities, like right here in Texas.

02:33:46.000 It is disgusting.

02:33:48.000 And it just makes me so angry.

02:33:50.000 And every couple months I hear about a lab person dying, getting sick, somewhere in the Western world or in Russia, in the lower level labs and in the high level labs.

02:34:00.000 And we never hear about what happens deep in the bowels of what they would call, what do they call above level 4?

02:34:06.000 We know there's all these giant black budget projects, and that's the majority of bioweapons activities. 0.57

02:34:12.000 Doctor, I mean, speculating here, Dr. Robert Gould, San Francisco Bay, President of Physicians for Social Responsibility.

02:34:21.000 I mean, from your contacts, from other pathologists, from other scientists, I mean, can you give us any inkling?

02:34:26.000 We know tens of billions of dollars every decade is covertly spent in these labs, but I mean, can you tell us anything of the dark side of things?

02:34:35.000 I mean, what they admit is bad enough, but can you tell us any of the other info?

02:34:39.000 Well, I think we've laid out some of the projects that have been divulged over the last number of years, such as the ones at the Port and Downs, such as the mousepox that was synthesized in Australia.

02:34:53.000 All that we know of is BSL-4, which is pretty high enough in terms of the dangerous work that they're entertaining doing there.

02:35:05.000 So, you know, these technologies have not been with us for a long time, but already over the last number of years, the advances in biotechnology and genetic engineering, these, you know, presage significant capabilities for offensive arms, and that's what we're really facing right now.

02:35:26.000 Well, I have to tell you, doctor, that I've talked to people who work for IBM and others And they'll just, scientists and others, they'll just laugh at you and go, there's no such thing as an unnatural mutation.

02:35:35.000 Oh, there's no problem. 0.97

02:35:36.000 Ah, you know, shut up. 1.00

02:35:37.000 Because they're all making money out of this. 0.98

02:35:39.000 You know, that's the sort of arrogance and outright hubris that you receive from people who are not really being honest about What the nature of their work is, and from our standpoint, not really taking moral and ethical responsibility for whatever their work is, and for whatever they're getting paid for.

02:35:56.000 Well, on the Kapchenko, or however you pronounce it, peninsula, I mean, they had cases where they'd release anthrax on accident and kill hundreds of people around in the town. 1.00

02:36:04.000 I mean, we had Chernobyl blow up and thousands of square miles were unlivable.

02:36:09.000 And it's that same arrogance.

02:36:10.000 What's wrong with these people?

02:36:12.000 Well, they're not, you know, they're not thinking from a global standpoint of what the effects of their work is.

02:36:19.000 I mean, you know, we have 50 years of nuclear weapons work that already has taken an incredible toll over the over 600,000 people who worked in the various atomic energy labs and Department of Energy labs.

02:36:33.000 I mean, you can think more locally where you're at in terms of the exposures to Pantex workers.

02:36:38.000 We have everybody from uranium miners who were exposed to Digging the uranium for nuclear weapons to those who work at places like Rocky Flats where plutonium is in the ducts.

02:36:49.000 Our government has unfortunately been very cavalier with this type of weapons work since the dawn of the Cold War.

02:36:58.000 We have millions of people around the world who are exposed to nuclear testing with effects that have been documented by the National Cancer Institute in terms of their effects on their thyroid including increased incidence of thyroid cancer and that's only with one of the radioactive elements, a radioactive iodine.

02:37:19.000 Well frankly I'm not as scared of the radioactive stuff which I am concerned about as this bio situation. 1.00

02:37:24.000 I mean it's not just America either, it's the rest of the world that's racing ahead at a geometric growth curve.

02:37:30.000 Well you know that's the thing, we have to look at all of these advanced technologies and we have to fondly look at our world as You know, we can't construct in any one country the sort of defensive type of position that really is this absurd situation of a, you know, like a gated community.

02:37:51.000 The fact is that, particularly when we're talking about the biological agents, they can cross boundaries, they can get in airplanes.

02:37:58.000 I mean, we are one interconnected world.

02:38:01.000 So to think that we could just set up a vaccination program here in the United States, even from those who would say be well-motivated to protect us against disease this is the larger point that we have to have the strongest possible international controls and the other thing is you know we're spending an inordinate amount of money and a lot of it again going to the biotech and pharmaceutical companies who undermine the treaty for these high-end projects which really don't touch the major problems that the world is facing I would submit that when we're thinking about real problems that are on our agenda such as impending global climate change that

02:38:35.000 Many organizations and many panels of experts who have studied this over the course of the last decade have indicated that we're likely to face a much greater disease burden from the impact of climate change because many diseases that up until now have been confined to tropical areas are likely to spread as the climate change and we're probably seeing the first evidence of that For example, with the West Nile virus.

02:39:03.000 It's been predicted by the World Health Organization that by the end of the century, even with the lower levels of anticipated climate change, that the world burden of malaria will go from somewhere it is presently at about 500 million people getting malaria To close to 600 million.

02:39:22.000 They're also saying that drug immune, not just resistant, but drug immune TB is going to kill hundreds of millions.

02:39:29.000 That's exactly right.

02:39:30.000 One third of the world's population is infected with tuberculosis.

02:39:34.000 That doesn't mean they have the disease.

02:39:36.000 But particularly when our government spends, was spending before 9-11, 10 billion dollars a year on counter-terrorism programs, that same amount of money Or a little bit more per year, as the United Nations and the World Health Organization have indicated, would be what we would need to deal with the global AIDS burden.

02:39:58.000 And it's within that global AIDS population that tuberculosis festers, and particularly antibiotic-resistant tuberculosis.

02:40:08.000 So for a fraction of the amount of money that we're dealing with high-end programs that themselves are extremely dangerous we can do a lot more to deal with diseases that matter and are here and threatening us right now but doctor

02:40:22.000 Again, the UN is hopelessly corrupt.

02:40:24.000 It's owned and run by the same military-industrial complex that owns Big Pharma.

02:40:28.000 Big Pharma doesn't mind if all this stuff spreads and gets bad, because then they get to treat it and make 50 times the money off of prevention and ending it.

02:40:36.000 So it's like the drug war.

02:40:37.000 The bigger the drug war gets, the more drugs we have on the streets.

02:40:39.000 Well, you know, I totally understand that, and that's been the record.

02:40:42.000 But, you know, I understand your concerns about the United Nations, but it does... I would just say that the only hope that we have is building strong international institutions that could actually deal with these issues as a matter of human survival.

02:40:57.000 Let me throw this in, doctor.

02:40:58.000 Let me throw this in.

02:40:59.000 I started this broadcast two plus hours ago.

02:41:06.000 Okay, saying that this is the argument of a lot of well-meaning professors and scientists and others is we've got to have this global government to stop the proliferation of these weapons of mass destruction.

02:41:18.000 A rogue country is going to make a bioweapon that will kill tens of millions of people. 0.92

02:41:23.000 And it's only going to be worse in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.

02:41:26.000 I mean, you know, this stuff is just all over the place.

02:41:29.000 But then I look at who founded the U.N., who runs it.

02:41:32.000 The U.N.' 's too busy bid-rigging oil contracts.

02:41:35.000 It's owned by the same just arrogant elitist that own and run this country.

02:41:41.000 And so all I'm saying is, is that what are other models of countries, you know, working with other countries?

02:41:48.000 And you say, through these treaties, I just don't see the U.N.

02:41:51.000 ever doing it or the U.N.

02:41:52.000 being a trustworthy group.

02:41:53.000 Well, Ana, I wasn't calling for world government.

02:41:56.000 What I was saying is that we have to recognize that these problems and these threats are global in nature.

02:42:03.000 But that's the argument!

02:42:04.000 And if we have problems right now with the current influences that don't allow the United Nations or other international organizations to do the job that they really need to do, then we have to think of ways to make them accountable to us and the world community.

02:42:19.000 But we really can't deal with these things on just a national basis because Yeah, you know, if we're talking about infectious disease or the problem of emerging and re-emerging infectious diseases that are in place, things like tuberculosis, malaria, we need to have global solutions.

02:42:34.000 So I'm not in any way, I believe, I'm not being naive about those issues, but from the standpoint of being a physician, from the standpoint of thinking about health as a global problem, We have to come up with creative solutions.

02:42:50.000 And that's the job for us to put our heads together, to figure out ways to do that.

02:42:53.000 Well, I think the name of the organization, Positions for Social Responsibility, being socially responsible means you're informed, and so that's what we're trying to do here, and I appreciate you coming on.

02:43:02.000 All I'm trying to say is this.

02:43:04.000 You've got such arrogant people in ivory towers, whether it's the UN or Paris or London or New York, Such arrogant people in these ivory towers.

02:43:15.000 I've talked to them. 0.53

02:43:16.000 I've interviewed senators.

02:43:18.000 They just don't get it, but they'll tell you all about the basketball scores.

02:43:22.000 And so, you know what?

02:43:24.000 I just see disaster.

02:43:25.000 And I'm not trying to be negative here, but I've talked to a lot of scientists and people, and they say that there is a greater chance of a massive, deadly viral release that will kill hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds of millions, than there's a chance of us somehow coming up with a way to stop this.

02:43:40.000 Well, you know, things are, you know, I can't deny, Alex, that things are pretty grim if we're looking at the situation in the world and that essentially we're pissing away $400 billion on our military budget, $125 billion supplemental for Iraq and Afghanistan.

02:43:57.000 When that money could be so much better used to deal with these types of threats and finding the ways to deal with it, you know, at a fraction of that cost.

02:44:05.000 Well, before 9-11, they had tens of millions for terror funding, and I remember scientists complaining, you know, you spend 2% of the anti-terror money on scientists and studies, and you spend 98% on, you know, police and black ski masks.

02:44:20.000 This is the problem.

02:44:21.000 You know, so all I'm saying, I think we're I mean, we may disagree with what the possibilities are out there.

02:44:27.000 I mean, you know, I don't know.

02:44:28.000 I mean, I'm not, again, I hope that I'm not coming across in any way naive about what the blocks there are to make a difference.

02:44:36.000 But nonetheless, I think we do need to be very clear that if we're talking about global public health and environmental issues that have to get solved, At a global level, we have to deal with new and creative ways of dealing with this.

02:44:51.000 Well, listen, I agree with you.

02:44:52.000 I'm just trying to state just how bad it really is so people can, I mean, not you, but so others can get out of denial.

02:44:58.000 Because I love my family, Doctor.

02:45:00.000 And I see this as one of the greatest threats to our future.

02:45:04.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

02:45:05.000 And I would just say that, particularly for folks in Texas, There should be plenty of heat on what's going on at the University of Texas in terms of their plans for facilities like this.

02:45:17.000 Those folks should not be allowed to conduct these operations in secret.

02:45:21.000 It's our right to know what goes on there, not only for the whole range of issues.

02:45:28.000 People's local health in terms of similar type of accidents that we're seeing in the case of this anthrax dissemination, as well as the larger issues of We, as citizens of our country,

02:45:43.000 Being basically exposed to the dangers of a biological weapons race.

02:45:49.000 Alright, Dr. Robert Gould.

02:45:50.000 We need an informed community to really be dealing with this.

02:45:53.000 Okay, Dr. Robert Gould, San Francisco Bay, President of Physicians for Social Responsibility.

02:46:00.000 You can go to the website of viainfowars.com, big link to the Sunshine Project.

02:46:06.000 This is really important information.

02:46:08.000 And, Doctor, take care and I appreciate you coming on.

02:46:11.000 Sure, Alex.

02:46:12.000 You know, if I could also give our website... Oh, I didn't even know!

02:46:14.000 Yes, sir, please!

02:46:17.000 National Physicians for Social Responsibility, of which I was president of our national organization last year, is an organization of 30,000 health professionals, including numerous physicians as part of that, physicians and health professionals.

02:46:31.000 And our website is www.psr.org.

02:46:37.000 And we have a great deal of information on our website in terms of the global challenges facing us, not only from the various weapons of mass destruction, but also in terms of many of the issues that I was addressing today in terms of threats posed by climate change.

02:46:52.000 Our approach is we need to have a preventive approach, not a reactive, dysfunctional approach.

02:46:58.000 So thanks, Alex, for having me on.

02:46:59.000 You bet.

02:46:59.000 psr.org, doctor.

02:47:01.000 www.psr.org.

02:47:04.000 Okay, thanks for coming on.

02:47:04.000 Take care.

02:47:06.000 He was literally joining us from the lab.

02:47:07.000 He said during the breaks he was looking in his microscope.

02:47:10.000 That is a perfect interview.

02:47:12.000 I can tell that guy means well, good guy, nice person.

02:47:16.000 You know, you'd feel safe letting him babysit your children, walk your dog, whatever.

02:47:20.000 But, I started the broadcast.

02:47:22.000 We need to post the first hour and the second hour on PrisonPlanet.tv, Paul.

02:47:28.000 I'm telling my webmaster that because to hear what I laid out, then to talk to him, You know, this is what they tell you.

02:47:35.000 We've got to have a global government to stop this threat.

02:47:37.000 Meanwhile, those running the global government are proliferating all this and building all this.

02:47:42.000 So see, that's the problem.

02:47:43.000 The psychopaths running the global government can't be trusted.

02:47:46.000 Just like any big government can't be trusted because bad people always get control of it.

02:47:50.000 So global government is not the answer.

02:47:52.000 I mean, our government leaves the border wide open and you just heard it.

02:47:55.000 A third of the world population has TB.

02:47:58.000 Not the developed disease.

02:47:59.000 Now they're saying hundreds of millions are going to die.

02:48:01.000 This decade from it, hundreds of millions have died.

02:48:04.000 And now they're messing with weaponizing salmonella, weaponizing TB, weaponizing everything.

02:48:09.000 That mousepox he was talking about.

02:48:13.000 They put out the ingredients, how to make it.

02:48:14.000 It's very quick and easy, by the way, to take that and to make it for any mammal, and it kills 100% of the mammals that are exposed to it.

02:48:22.000 They got stuff that kills 100%.

02:48:26.000 Of whoever gets in contact with it, and there are examples every month I see.

02:48:31.000 Mainstream news, back of the paper, where somebody gets sick from a bioweapon or one of the precursors at one of these bioweapons labs.

02:48:39.000 And let me tell you, this stuff's going on right here in Austin.

02:48:41.000 They built a disgusting center down on the coast. 0.97

02:48:44.000 They have got a nuclear reactor in Austin.

02:48:46.000 And let me tell you, all these Austinites know which dorm room, you know, the quarterback lives in.

02:48:52.000 And what beer he likes to drink, but you people in Austin do not know there's a nuclear reactor in this town!

02:49:00.000 and it's the same for the whole country!

02:49:07.000 This is so dangerous. 0.99

02:49:10.000 you And they've got psychopaths running this.

02:49:15.000 involving all their population control and dosing the vaccines with poison.

02:49:15.000 And the U.N.

02:49:20.000 Cancer and sterilization systems.

02:49:22.000 It's all admitted.

02:49:23.000 We have a huge archive on PrisonPlanet.com covering it.

02:49:26.000 I'm going to come back and continue to talk about this because I've got a rant that I want to continue on this subject.

02:49:31.000 I might jam a few calls in in the final segment.

02:49:34.000 I don't know.

02:49:36.000 I just hope you all get Road to Tyranny, Masters of Terror, Police State, Three Total Enslavement.

02:49:40.000 I hope you get all my films.

02:49:42.000 And I hope you jam them in a VCR, get a second VCR, make a hundred copies of it in the next hundred days.

02:49:47.000 A copy every night when you go to bed.

02:49:49.000 I hope you give it to people in your area and put it on AXS TV and warn everyone.

02:49:52.000 Because it's all I do is study this.

02:49:54.000 And let me tell you, it is serious business.

02:49:57.000 And they sold the entire intelligentsia on world government because of this threat.

02:50:01.000 What the intelligentsia doesn't get is that their bosses are the ones that are going to release it!

02:50:10.000 Oh, man.

02:50:10.000 And you know, I hope by getting these experts up and you hear me in these dialogues with them that we're giving you accurate information.

02:50:17.000 I've actually studied all this.

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02:54:14.000 Again, if you are a little bit more informed, I don't mean our general listeners, but those out there that think football or topless bars are God, or how to apply your cosmetics is the most important thing of the day.

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02:54:54.000 No one gets in trouble.

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02:56:01.000 Forgot to bring that up with the doctor.

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02:56:39.000 You go, well, that's bad news.

02:56:41.000 Well, you better face the bad news and get about the job of turning this thing around. 0.99

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02:57:05.000 Because their papers weren't in order.

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02:58:13.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight Central Standard Time, and there's a few rebroadcasts of this Friday's show throughout the weekend.

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