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00:00:13.000 Stand by, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:21.000 Global Transmission Against Tyranny now commencing.

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00:00:29.000 It is the 20th day of March 21st.

00:00:37.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:41.000 The head financial writer for the London Guardian, the largest paper in England and Europe, will be joining us as he is now exposing the fact that this is an engineered collapse and fraud going on within the banking system.

00:00:55.000 Then Aubrey de Grey, we only had him on about 30 minutes last week, he'll be on with us a full hour today to talk about The true development of life extension technologies and how far along it really is, and how that ties into the elite, and how they wish to suppress these technologies from the public getting access to them.

00:01:16.000 So that is coming up with Andre de Grey in the second hour, and then we will go to Tibet again, or from the border of Tibet from India, where the exiled government is, and the chairman of the head of the major human rights organization for the Tibetan people.

00:01:37.000 Ugin Tenzin, who joined us on Monday.

00:01:39.000 Big developments in Tibet.

00:01:42.000 Very important broadcast today.

00:01:44.000 I mean, I have maybe a show every month or two that has this much news and info, and I've got to cover it.

00:01:51.000 It's all too incredible.

00:01:53.000 Drinkers face drug checks.

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00:02:04.000 I'm not kidding.

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00:02:06.000 Now, all over England, they want to make you do a drug check.

00:02:10.000 So all part of being guilty until proven innocent, we'll be breaking that down.

00:02:15.000 Of course, they're putting two-year-olds into probation in England.

00:02:20.000 If their parents have criminal records saying it's genetic, In Texas, they say they put more than two-thirds of foster kids on drugs because they are quote genetically deficient.

00:02:30.000 Just out of the blue, they just say it. 0.98

00:02:32.000 Oh, we're killing you, poisoning you because you're genetically deficient. 1.00

00:02:37.000 We'll be going over that today. 0.99

00:02:38.000 I have now read the White House briefing, the brief to the Supreme Court saying you have no Second Amendment right and that all of your guns can be confiscated.

00:02:51.000 I spent hours and hours last night reading Gunners of America's brief to the Supreme Court, the Justice Department brief from the White House.

00:02:59.000 Of course, two nights ago I read the entire 90-plus pages of their oral arguments, what the Supreme Court justices had to say.

00:03:07.000 It is bad, but I've studied even more last night, so I have even more information for you on that front.

00:03:12.000 But here's the big news today.

00:03:16.000 Comcast cameras to start watching you.

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00:03:28.000 Now, this is hidden in plain view.

00:03:30.000 They just come out and announce it happily, and it's so shocking and incredible, people just go, okay.

00:03:36.000 It's a mind trick, like a Jedi mind trick. 0.69

00:03:39.000 Then it goes into psychology, corporate manipulation, Delphi technique, but mainstream news. 0.98

00:03:47.000 I mean, you will be watched in your home And if you're not for it, you're a weirdo.

00:03:53.000 But see, the way they do this, well, if you don't want a cable box, you don't have to have cable.

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00:04:06.000 And I've been telling you for 12 years that all of your DNA at birth, if you're 35 or younger, been about 35 years since it started, started back in 72, All of your DNA is taken and put in an international database.

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00:04:29.000 It finally is in the mainstream news.

00:04:33.000 So I thought I'd get into that too.

00:04:36.000 Oh yeah!

00:04:37.000 They take your baby's blood and it goes right into Homeland Security. 0.70

00:04:42.000 Every American is put in a DNA database at birth.

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00:09:02.000 Right now, Larry Elliott joins us for this segment and the next.

00:09:05.000 He is the economics editor at the London Guardian, biggest paper in England, and they do a lot of great reporting there, and we're really honored to have him.

00:09:15.000 I've read a lot of his reportage over the years, but a story he did earlier in the week, America was conned.

00:09:21.000 Who will pay?

00:09:22.000 The South Sea bubble ended in riots.

00:09:26.000 As trust was lost, Wall Street duped the public.

00:09:30.000 And then it goes into what's really happening here, and now they're leaving the dollar and the American people holding the bag, devaluing our currency.

00:09:39.000 We're going to pay back all of these hundreds of billions a month they're pumping in to these brokerage firms and banks.

00:09:46.000 We'll have to pay that back in tax money, so they're going to tax us and they're devaluing our savings.

00:09:51.000 People on Social Security fixed incomes.

00:09:53.000 Of course, you're getting $600 a month.

00:09:55.000 Your check goes up 2% a year.

00:09:57.000 Real inflation is about 15%.

00:10:00.000 So compounded, you've lost half your value the last four years.

00:10:03.000 The head of the New York Business School on a few weeks ago saying you've lost about half in the last 10 years.

00:10:09.000 We could argue most of that in the last four.

00:10:12.000 So that's why we've got him on to really talk about this big con job.

00:10:16.000 And it's good to see more and more big financial writers and experts telling it like it is.

00:10:21.000 And thanks for coming on, Mr. Elliott.

00:10:23.000 Oh, thanks.

00:10:23.000 It's a great pleasure.

00:10:24.000 If you can, just elaborate on the article and break down why you're saying that this was all a big engineered scam.

00:10:30.000 Well, I think the real point about this is that for a large part of the last 70 or 80 years since the New Deal, I mean, certainly for the first half of that, America grew in steps and everybody got richer together.

00:10:43.000 So rich and poor got wealthier, and everybody got a fair share of the pie.

00:10:48.000 Of course, the rich stayed rich and the poor stayed poor, but everybody got richer together.

00:10:52.000 And I think it was John F. Kennedy that said, a rising tide lifts all boats, and that for sure happened in the 50s and 60s.

00:11:00.000 Well, in the 70s and 80s, some sort of weird stuff happened, really, which was that all the controls that had been put on big finance on Wall Street by Roosevelt and the new dealers were gradually stripped away.

00:11:10.000 So, essentially, Wall Street was allowed to do pretty much what it wanted, and you saw these stratospheric salaries, and the rich got very much richer than poor people, who saw their salaries pretty much stagnate for a large period of time.

00:11:27.000 But of course, you know, you still have to get people to buy stuff, otherwise big business doesn't make any money.

00:11:33.000 So they came up with this great idea, which was that everybody would get on the housing market, and they went around and sold loans to people who really weren't well equipped to pay the loans back, and these were sort of subprime and all-time loans, and then they sort of mixed stuff with sort of teaser rates and exploding ARMs and so on.

00:11:51.000 People didn't really know at that point.

00:11:53.000 I think it's a great question.

00:11:54.000 signing up for, but essentially they were told, well, the housing market is a great success story.

00:11:59.000 You know, you might have a bit of trouble paying your mortgage back, but actually, you know, it won't be a problem because you're going to sell it for more than you paid for it.

00:12:07.000 And of course, what they then did, and that was the first really dumb thing that happened, was that they suckered a whole lot of people into buying these houses that they really couldn't afford to keep up their payments for, and they left sort of time bombs ticking away, which would explode after one or two years when people had to pay much more on that for which would explode after one or two years when people had to pay And the second really dumb thing they did was then they took all these loans and they bundled up some of the really bad loans with some good prime loans and they sort of made them into a big paste.

00:12:36.000 And they put these into securities which were then sold on Wall Street because Wall Street wasn't particularly well regulated and no one really knew what it was up to.

00:12:46.000 And someone described it like this.

00:12:46.000 And someone described it like this, you take a sort of a meat pie factory and you put a few really rancid carcasses in there and you mince it all up and put it into some pies and then you sell the pies off into supermarkets, into Walmart or whatever.

00:12:47.000 You take a sort of a meat pie factory and you put a few really rancid carcasses in there and you mince it all up and put it into some pies, and then you sell the pies off into supermarkets, into Walmart or whatever.

00:13:01.000 And then suddenly there's a big panic because someone says some of these pies have got bad meat in them, but nobody actually knows which pies have got the bad meat in them.

00:13:13.000 So that's what really happened in the financial markets last year was that as the housing market started to go down, as it inevitably did, because it was a gigantic bubble, people said, hang on, we've sold all these securities out into Wall Street.

00:13:25.000 Some of the big banks are holding them, but nobody actually knows how much the exposure is going to be.

00:13:31.000 And so that's when the financial markets themselves went into a complete meltdown because nobody would actually deal with anybody else because nobody knew how much of this toxic waste they'd got, how many of the bad meat pies were actually sitting in Citigroup or in Merrill Lynch or in Lehman Brothers or how many of the bad meat pies were actually sitting in And so that's really the genesis of the crisis.

00:13:53.000 Ordinary American people who were genuinely, I think, conned by the slick salespeople who came around and sold them the loans, have actually Absolutely, and the article you wrote, America Was Conned, Who Will Pay, gets into more detail and a lot of historical perspectives.

00:14:09.000 has found itself in a state of total panic because it doesn't know how big these losses are.

00:14:14.000 And that's why I say America has been conned, and who is actually going to pay for all this?

00:14:18.000 Well, absolutely.

00:14:20.000 And the article you wrote, America was conned, who will pay, gets into more detail.

00:14:24.000 And a lot of historical perspectives.

00:14:26.000 I want to talk about the British experience in the 1730s, and, of course, then we had it in 1815 with Rothschilds, and it just happens over and over again.

00:14:36.000 but but but to explain this to people in in Or to boil it down, they always make it a left-right political football.

00:14:42.000 And I'm a libertarian, but by the left would be seen as more right-wing.

00:14:46.000 It has nothing to do with left or right, but Rush Limbaugh and the other big neocons want to make it a political football instead of having a rancid, corrupt financial system that's totally corrupt.

00:14:58.000 We can't have a discussion about that. 1.00

00:15:00.000 They get on the radio and they say, evil liberals claim that it was the banks that did this, but no, it's dumb, poor, Greedy liars! 0.99

00:15:10.000 And sure, I mean, I use the analogy of a five-year-old child... Hello? 1.00

00:15:18.000 Yeah?

00:15:19.000 I use the analogy... Sure, I just heard somebody's cell phone cut into the wire, so I was just pausing... You're having trouble with being in an office here, but carry on.

00:15:25.000 No, no, no, I totally understand, that's fine.

00:15:28.000 I was just pausing for you to answer, or whatever.

00:15:30.000 Going back... It's like a five-year-old child, yeah?

00:15:34.000 Yes, like a five-year-old child who you tell don't play in the front yard, and then the kidnapper comes by and kidnaps them.

00:15:41.000 The child was bad, but the kidnapper is the predator.

00:15:44.000 And that's what we have with these brokerage firms and banks.

00:15:47.000 They knowingly went and lobbied the federal government to take off the restrictions in the early 90s and then in 99, as you know.

00:15:54.000 They then came in, they packaged absolute crap with nothing backing it, had companies AAA rated, and then now they're selling out the dollar, having the Federal Reserve bail them out, and then the average American doesn't even understand how the financial system works or even where D.C. and then the average American doesn't even understand how the financial system works or even where D.C. is or where All they know about is Britney Spears and American Idol.

00:16:19.000 So where do you think we're going with your economic expertise and what you watch with markets?

00:16:24.000 How bad do you think this is going to get?

00:16:26.000 Are we seeing just the beginning or is everything fine?

00:16:28.000 I think this could get very bad indeed.

00:16:30.000 I think it is actually quite bad in the US at the moment.

00:16:33.000 We're already now over here in Britain, starting to wonder whether we're going to get a bad dose of it.

00:16:39.000 I think this credit crisis is very deep, and it's going to last a long time because there's a lot of rottenness in the financial system, which has been allowed to build up over the last few years.

00:16:50.000 As you say, these big Wall Street firms lobbied the government very hard to take away all the restrictions that were put on for very good reasons in the 1930s by the new dealers because they realized in the 30s that the problem was not the ordinary American.

00:17:03.000 It was the sort of tendency of the markets to go for these massive spectruses of bubbles, and that's really why this is no different from the South Sea bubble in the 1720s or tulips in Holland in the 17th century or the railroad booms that America had in the 19th century.

00:17:18.000 It's a classic bubble which always ends in a very, very deep bust, and that's what we're getting right now.

00:17:26.000 I think what's interesting about all this politically is that Wall Street finds welfare a very, very good idea when itself is in trouble.

00:17:36.000 All the time that things are going well, it wants the government off its back, it wants regulations to be removed, it wants It wants the freedom to do exactly what it wants, up until the very moment when it gets into trouble.

00:17:45.000 Then it suddenly finds it wants a really big fat check from the US taxpayer to pay that out.

00:17:51.000 I agree, sir. 0.98

00:17:53.000 Let's get into the South Seas bubble, because you call it the classic Ponzi scheme, with more crap paper chasing more crap paper.

00:18:00.000 I mean, for the average person who doesn't understand how this works, the South Seas example I think is a good one.

00:18:05.000 Yeah.

00:18:06.000 Essentially what happened there, people didn't actually know what they were speculating on.

00:18:11.000 They had loads of bits of paper floating around London in 1720.

00:18:15.000 And in fact, the prospectus of the South Sea Bubble Company said something like, it's a company for the purpose of which we're not going to tell anybody what it is.

00:18:22.000 That was actually what people were told.

00:18:24.000 They were told absolutely nothing about what this company was doing.

00:18:26.000 And in fact, nobody knew.

00:18:27.000 And in fact, it wasn't doing anything.

00:18:28.000 It was a complete phony company in many, many ways.

00:18:31.000 And essentially the markets in recent years have been exactly the same.

00:18:34.000 Everybody has been buying and selling these securitized loans and mortgage-backed loans.

00:18:38.000 And no one has had the first idea what this stuff is.

00:18:42.000 And I met someone a couple of months ago in Switzerland at a meeting in Davos where he said, and he was the CEO of a big Swiss company.

00:18:50.000 He said, I was the CEO of a company and we knew these guys were out there doing all these weird stuff and dealing in these exotic financial instruments.

00:18:57.000 And we just turned a blind eye to it because they were making us money and we didn't know what they were doing.

00:19:00.000 But we thought, hell, they're making loads of money.

00:19:03.000 I mean, that was the problem.

00:19:03.000 Let them get on with it.

00:19:05.000 That's why it's exactly the same as the South Sea Bubble.

00:19:08.000 It was people were just buying because everybody else was buying.

00:19:12.000 And eventually it does become a Ponzi scheme.

00:19:17.000 And I would say there's no doubt that we could have imploded in the 70s, the 80s, the 90s.

00:19:21.000 I mean, it had already built up.

00:19:23.000 But the corruption of the 90s and 2000s makes the stuff in the 60s and 70s look like a tea party.

00:19:29.000 And we're now entering the end of this mega global bubble.

00:19:32.000 It's not just going to affect the US, it's going to pull the world down with us.

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00:24:25.000 All right, going back to Larry Elliott.

00:24:28.000 He is the financial editor of the London Guardian.

00:24:32.000 I need you to go all right.

00:24:35.000 We were talking about collusion, and it's admitted that from the big brokerage companies and banks right down to the local appraisers, the realtors, And then, yes, the people taking the loans, but they're there, yeah, I have no money, I have an $8 an hour job, but I'm getting a $300,000 house.

00:24:55.000 I mean, they just did it.

00:24:57.000 And so can you speak to that?

00:24:59.000 I mean, this amazing systemic corruption across the board.

00:25:04.000 I think it's a bit bizarre to blame the people right at the bottom for this.

00:25:08.000 I mean, I think that's a rather bizarre thing.

00:25:10.000 They were told that they could live the American dream.

00:25:12.000 Yeah, this was advertised as the financial instrument!

00:25:17.000 Yeah, I mean, Alan Greenspan has been banging on about this in his memoirs, saying that the good thing about what happened in the last few years was that it enabled people to get their foot on the property.

00:25:28.000 That was the way it was heavily marketed to people.

00:25:30.000 And I think a lot of people, they did raise issues with the people who came around and sold them a loan and said, You know, actually, I don't have a full-time job, or, you know, I don't earn that much money.

00:25:40.000 And the people who were selling them the loans said, that doesn't matter.

00:25:42.000 I mean, you know, hey, chill.

00:25:44.000 I mean, they said, you know, we can sort that.

00:25:46.000 We'll give you a low-cost loan.

00:25:47.000 And they didn't actually tell them all the ramifications of it, what would happen after one or two years when the real deal kicked in.

00:25:53.000 So I think people really were take them for a ride, and to blame them for it, if that's what people are saying in the U.S., I think that's actually pretty poor of them to say that.

00:26:02.000 But, I mean, essentially, the problem was that in order to keep the housing market bubble going, you had to actually get those poor people into the housing market because you, you know...

00:26:13.000 No, it's like abducting a child and...

00:26:15.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:26:16.000 I mean, you said that before.

00:26:17.000 I mean, but the markets need a constant supply of first-time buyers in order to keep going.

00:26:23.000 Prices have gone up so much in the boom that first-time buyers couldn't actually afford to get on the housing ladder without them being given these special...

00:26:29.000 And I just want to add that they may have cut interest rates down to almost nothing.

00:26:38.000 They're still not giving loans to people that have pretty good credit here in the United States.

00:26:43.000 The level of fed funds rate is really irrelevant to the real level of mortgages that people are actually paying because what's happening is that Wall Street firms have taken such big hits on their profitability as a result of all the stupid stuff they did, that they are now trying to make that money back by pushing up the interest rates that are actually charged to their customers.

00:27:00.000 So I would bet there aren't too many people across the U.S. who can get a loan anywhere from a firm for 2% or anything like it.

00:27:08.000 They'll be paying 8% or 9% easily for their mortgage loans, and that's a real hit for people.

00:27:13.000 Yeah, I've actually looked into it because I have a mortgage, and the Fed fund rate went down.

00:27:19.000 And so I checked in.

00:27:21.000 They said, oh, you've got a 6%.

00:27:24.000 You've got a great deal.

00:27:25.000 Even with decent credit, Mr. Jones, you're going to be paying 7.5%.

00:27:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:29.000 So, I mean, people, you know, you think about it, people are paying 7.5%.

00:27:32.000 7.5% for the mortgage, they're seeing the price of gas go up because of $100 oil prices, they're seeing the price of food go up because of what's happening in the global food markets.

00:27:40.000 They're not getting a big increase in their take-home pay.

00:27:43.000 I mean, this is a really, really tough time for Americans, and that's why I think there's been a sort of con job done here, really, by the Well, listen, I want to come back and ask you just a few more questions.

00:27:57.000 We'll keep you about 40 after.

00:27:59.000 The bigger thing now is we have the credit cards leveraged and coming due.

00:28:03.000 And it's simple.

00:28:04.000 When I was poor and in college, I got a credit card every week in the mail. 0.83

00:28:07.000 I wasn't dumb enough to use them.

00:28:08.000 But now that I'm not insolvent, I don't get credit cards in the mail.

00:28:12.000 But, you know, once every two months.

00:28:15.000 That's all coming due now.

00:28:16.000 I mean, this looks like it just gets worse and worse.

00:28:18.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that the problem at the moment is that if you don't need credit, you can get loads of it.

00:28:24.000 So if you wanted to have a credit card and you're on, if you've got a lot of equity in your house, then you can get it easily.

00:28:29.000 But if you do need credit, it's very hard to get hold of and very expensive.

00:28:32.000 And a lot of people... I mean, what's really happened in the States, I think, over the last 15 years is that one bubble has been solved by creating another bubble.

00:28:39.000 So there was a dot-com bubble, and that seemed like it was going to fizzle out.

00:28:43.000 And Alan Greenspan responded to that by creating another, even bigger bubble.

00:28:46.000 And now all the bubbles run out.

00:28:48.000 And that's where we are, which is that all the bills are coming due.

00:28:51.000 Did you see Bush?

00:28:53.000 Yeah, I did see Bush. 0.99

00:28:54.000 I mean, I just thought what he said was ridiculous. 0.80

00:28:56.000 Did you see him call it a bubble-neck? 0.96

00:28:59.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.97

00:29:02.000 I think most ordinary Americans would find what he was saying to be ridiculous, really.

00:29:07.000 It bears no resemblance to what's happening... He says everything's wonderful! 0.57

00:29:11.000 Let them eat cake! 1.00

00:29:12.000 Well, it may be wonderful if you're living in the White House and you've got a big ranch down in Crawford, but I mean, I'm not sure that it's particularly wonderful when...

00:29:23.000 Well, we saw the markets plunge after those two speeches. 0.99

00:29:26.000 People knew it was pure crap. 0.99

00:29:28.000 Stay there, sir, just about five minutes on the other side. 0.98

00:29:31.000 I want to get your personal forecast or dead reckoning estimation, and I want to hear from you what the majority of experts you talk to, what they're saying we're really going into.

00:29:44.000 We're on the march.

00:29:45.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:31:53.000 All right, Dad.

00:31:55.000 Let me get this straight.

00:31:57.000 Uncivil Liberties takes place in the future, right?

00:31:59.000 Like Star Wars?

00:32:00.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:32:01.000 Slightly in the future.

00:32:02.000 Wait a second.

00:32:03.000 I thought Star Wars took place a long, long time ago.

00:32:06.000 Alright, Einstein.

00:32:07.000 But it is kind of like Star Wars anyway.

00:32:09.000 Just like Star Wars, there's an evil empire and some people have started an armed rebellion to fight the evil empire.

00:32:16.000 Okay, so don't tell me, the government's the bad guys again?

00:32:20.000 Yep, that's right.

00:32:21.000 Oh, so your character's like Luke Skywalker?

00:32:23.000 Not exactly.

00:32:24.000 I know, you're Chewbacca!

00:32:27.000 Not really, but my character does help the rebellion to stop the government's evil tracking system, which is happening now in the real world, just like in Uncivil Liberties.

00:32:36.000 Wait a second, they can't track us, it's a free country!

00:32:39.000 Exactly.

00:32:40.000 Uncivil Liberties, a political thriller ripped from today's headlines.

00:32:44.000 Go to uncivilliberties.com to receive your full-length feature on DVD for only $13.95.

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00:32:53.000 I'm going to chase the sky.

00:33:11.000 It really is.

00:33:14.000 With the woman and the stallion and the wind.

00:33:18.000 And the sun is gonna burn into a cinder.

00:33:24.000 Before we ever pass this way again.

00:33:31.000 You know, it's humbling.

00:33:32.000 It really is.

00:33:34.000 Been playing that song for years.

00:33:36.000 It's bumper music.

00:33:40.000 To find out that for ten years.

00:33:43.000 Willie Nelson's been a big fan of this show.

00:33:46.000 And to have him on.

00:33:47.000 It's just amazing.

00:33:49.000 You're gonna ride with me now.

00:33:52.000 We've got some other really big guests coming up in the next few weeks by the way.

00:33:55.000 There'll be surprises.

00:33:56.000 We always surprise you with a really big guest.

00:34:01.000 Going back just about five minutes left with Larry Elliott.

00:34:03.000 He's also a very prominent best-selling author.

00:34:07.000 He's also, of course, the financial editor of the largest paper in England, probably the main paper in Europe.

00:34:13.000 I've seen it everywhere when I've been in Europe, and we are just honored to have him with us.

00:34:18.000 Really great reports, accurate reports, things that mesh with what I'm getting from all the economists and experts we have on.

00:34:29.000 We'll have on all these different experts, and they will You know, talk about all these serious issues, but then most of the mainstream media doesn't.

00:34:39.000 Larry, why is it that so many big financial reporters and people don't want to really put out the hardcore news?

00:34:46.000 Is it they don't want to rock the boat, or it's too controversial?

00:34:49.000 Are there sponsors or big brokerage firms?

00:34:51.000 Why is that?

00:34:53.000 I really can't talk for any other journalist, really.

00:34:55.000 I just write it as I see it.

00:34:57.000 I mean, maybe a lot of journalists are quite well paid and quite well off.

00:35:01.000 And don't really see things as they are on the other side of the tracks, or, you know, it may be that some of them are constrained by what they write because of the ownership of their paper.

00:35:11.000 I mean, The Guardian is good in that we have complete editorial freedom to write exactly what we want.

00:35:15.000 We're not owned by a big proprietor, we're owned by a trust, so we're allowed to just write what we think is true and accurate, and that's what I try and do.

00:35:23.000 So, you know, it's nice if people want to hear what I've got to say, but You know, I understand that people have totally different views to mine.

00:35:32.000 Some people genuinely disagree with me.

00:35:34.000 Well, let's talk about...

00:35:35.000 Let's talk about, in just the last two minutes, we've got your personal view on, from studying history in the current economy, where this is going, and then other experts.

00:35:45.000 Pretty much everybody agrees, serious recession, how deep will it get?

00:35:49.000 And then the big issue starting to come up is serious inflationary depression.

00:35:56.000 Give us your basic analysis.

00:35:57.000 There's three possibilities in my view.

00:36:01.000 We've just about got away with a quite serious recession.

00:36:05.000 The action the Federal Reserve has taken this week and the money it's pumping into the system and the support it's been giving to Wall Street banks and so on will eventually turn things around but not for quite a while.

00:36:16.000 I mean, that's the first thing.

00:36:17.000 I think that it's going to be a serious recession.

00:36:20.000 House prices are falling across the U.S.

00:36:22.000 by around 20% a year, which is, as far as I'm aware, the biggest fall in house prices there's been certainly since the 1930s.

00:36:28.000 So this is a really serious downturn.

00:36:32.000 Even the baseline case is serious.

00:36:33.000 The second thing that could happen is that we could have a return to the 1970s, a sort of stagflation, allowing the dollars to fall, making imported food and fuel more expensive.

00:36:43.000 So you get a weak, very weak period of the recession in the economy, plus higher inflation, which is really the sort of quite nasty message that we had, the mess that we had in the 1970s.

00:36:54.000 And I think that could be prolonged and painful, and that seems to me to be a quite strong possibility.

00:37:00.000 And of course, the final thing is, is this really the return of the big one?

00:37:04.000 I don't actually think there's any real evidence yet to say that it is the return of the big one, partly because, you know, in the 1930s there was a much smaller state and the government will take up some of the slack in the economy.

00:37:14.000 But I mean, it is a possibility that if the financial system really does melt down, I mean, if that happened, if the financial system melted down, And you saw really big falls in house prices.

00:37:25.000 More just prime loans started to go bad as well as sub-prime loans.

00:37:28.000 People started to get foreclosed on in a big way.

00:37:30.000 Then of course you could be looking straight down the barrel of a 1930s experience.

00:37:35.000 But I would say that I'd put a 50 or 60% chance of it being a really deep and serious recession, about a 30% chance in a period of stagflation like we had in the 1970s, and about a 10% chance of there being Yeah, it's like walking out your front door and having a 10% chance of getting struck by lightning.

00:38:04.000 I mean, it could be different, but I would say that the biggest risk is of a quite serious prolonged downturn.

00:38:12.000 I think the U.S.

00:38:13.000 is already in recession and will remain in recession for the whole of 2008.

00:38:16.000 I mean, I don't think this is going to be changed by the first Tuesday in This is the big problem that I see.

00:38:21.000 when people choose the next president.

00:38:23.000 This is going to be...

00:38:24.000 Larry Elliott, this is the big problem that I see.

00:38:26.000 The dollar, cutting interest rates, increasing spending, all these wars, trillions of dollars.

00:38:33.000 The war they now see has cost almost $2 trillion.

00:38:36.000 Everybody's starting to leave the dollar.

00:38:39.000 The government's doing everything to drive down the dollar.

00:38:42.000 So I see long term that more and more bubbles are going to be imploding, and I see the depression 50% chance.

00:38:51.000 Well, I mean, you could be right.

00:38:52.000 I hope.

00:38:53.000 I'm a bit more cautious than that.

00:38:55.000 But I mean, I think that the fall in the value of the dollar is actually pretty serious because, you know, you...

00:39:02.000 At some point, the U.S.

00:39:03.000 government is going to have to get together.

00:39:04.000 It's going to have to drop its unilateral stance and get together with the other countries in the world and stop it happening.

00:39:09.000 Because at the moment, a lot of U.S.

00:39:11.000 banks are being bailed out by sovereign wealth funds and rich investors from overseas who are pumping their money into Citigroup and all these other companies.

00:39:19.000 And if they think that the dollar is going to go down in value, Absolutely.

00:39:22.000 and all their investments are going to be worthless.

00:39:23.000 They're going to stop doing that.

00:39:24.000 So you can't have benign neglect towards the power.

00:39:27.000 Absolutely.

00:39:28.000 Just allow it to fall.

00:39:29.000 And if that does happen, and people start to pull their money out of the States in a really big way, then you really are looking at a depression.

00:39:35.000 Well, Larry Elliott, the financial editor for the London Guardian, just in closing, tell me about the two books you've written and the new one coming out.

00:39:44.000 I read a book about how I thought this was all going to happen 10 years ago called The Age of Insecurity.

00:39:50.000 And then I read a book about the UK experience under Tony Blair called Fantasy Island, which came out last year.

00:39:55.000 And we've got a new book coming out, myself and my co-author Dan Atkinson in the summer called The Gods That Failed.

00:40:01.000 I mean, the gods are the gods of the financial markets, Wall Street and so on.

00:40:05.000 And how they completely screwed up the world and messed things up for ordinary people, and what we should do about it.

00:40:09.000 So that's coming out this summer in the UK, and it should be out in the US sometime in the autumn, I hope.

00:40:14.000 Okay, thank you for spending time with us, sir.

00:40:16.000 Okay, that's great.

00:40:17.000 Take care, bye.

00:40:18.000 Alright, folks, so there's the financial editor for the London Guardian.

00:40:24.000 Hedging his bet gave you a very conservative estimate of 10% chance of absolute war-in-the-streets-type depression.

00:40:33.000 We're already in stagflation, so he was giving that a 30% chance.

00:40:37.000 You were hearing massive hedging.

00:40:38.000 I guarantee you, if you were drinking a beer with that guy at a pub, you'd hear, oh yeah, we're going into a depression.

00:40:44.000 Now, only politically admitting what we're going into could change that.

00:40:48.000 Only admitting just how bad things are, just how serious things are, can turn this around.

00:40:54.000 Okay.

00:40:56.000 This next story is personal for me, and you're going to hear more about this in the days to come and weeks to come.

00:41:02.000 Because I've only got a few more days to make sure that this doesn't happen.

00:41:07.000 And it gets into a lot of complex issues that I want to flesh out, because I know we all go through this experience ourselves.

00:41:17.000 It's like I know a cell phone is bad, but I still use it just because it's so easy, convenient, and I'm so busy.

00:41:22.000 I work when I'm in the car driving home, doing business, taking care of things.

00:41:26.000 But I've cut that back about 95%.

00:41:29.000 I got cut down like 98% just checking message on it.

00:41:32.000 I've been so busy lately I've been back on it.

00:41:34.000 I've caught myself back on it.

00:41:36.000 What are you talking about, Alex?

00:41:40.000 Well, I know they're bad, but I still use it.

00:41:41.000 Well, I know hospitals are pretty much bad.

00:41:45.000 But I also know statistically it's tough with a doula or one of these midwives. 0.61

00:41:51.000 And I know there can be problems.

00:41:53.000 And so we tried to have a baby the first time, pretty much natural, but he was over 10 pounds.

00:41:58.000 And for a woman's first baby, that's tough.

00:42:00.000 So, you know, I've had all three of my children in the hospital and the doctors and nurses are good.

00:42:07.000 They're not bad people individually, but the system and how it's set up is very evil.

00:42:13.000 And you're sitting there and they go, we want to give them vaccines.

00:42:15.000 You go, no.

00:42:16.000 And they say, well, we don't give them to our kids either, but we were supposed to push on.

00:42:19.000 And they come in, look, it's a mandate.

00:42:21.000 It's a state law.

00:42:23.000 And I knew it wasn't state law. 1.00

00:42:24.000 I knew it was all fraud, but they're brainwashed idiots. 1.00

00:42:26.000 We just want the blood. 1.00

00:42:28.000 Maybe it's for a blood test.

00:42:29.000 And I started telling them, I said, look, I'm just happy the baby's healthy, whatever.

00:42:37.000 I've been through this three times.

00:42:38.000 I said, look, you may not know this, but it's no law.

00:42:40.000 It's a health department mandate through the feds to the states.

00:42:45.000 It's based right here in Texas.

00:42:47.000 The main center that organizes this in the U.S.

00:42:51.000 and then U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

00:42:55.000 England, they're all involved.

00:42:56.000 Now Europe's involved, but they're the oldest. 0.61

00:42:58.000 Started 35 years ago in the US and England.

00:43:00.000 It's been in Australia for 30 plus years.

00:43:04.000 And I told them, I said, I said, why don't you do blood tests here for blood disorders?

00:43:09.000 And they said, well, we don't know, but we got to send this to the health department.

00:43:12.000 Then more nurses come in. 1.00

00:43:15.000 And, uh, you know, they say, well, you signed that form when you were admitted.

00:43:20.000 And I just, I said, you know what?

00:43:21.000 Just go ahead and do it.

00:43:23.000 And I know it goes into the blood database.

00:43:25.000 I understand that.

00:43:27.000 It's all documented.

00:43:29.000 But... But I just want parents to consciously think about this and read everything you sign and what you do.

00:43:36.000 And you got 45 days to make them destroy it, but it's come out that they don't.

00:43:41.000 Now, here's the issue that makes me mad.

00:43:43.000 I know it goes to a federal database.

00:43:45.000 And I know they use it to develop bioweapons, drugs, chemicals.

00:43:49.000 By the way, I have mainstream news here.

00:43:50.000 That's all admitted.

00:43:51.000 It's been in the news.

00:43:54.000 It's finally back in the news.

00:43:55.000 You tell the public this, they just laugh at you.

00:43:57.000 They've been trained to be slaves.

00:43:59.000 And they admit, bioweapons development, genetic engineering companies, they buy your kid's blood, the government sells it.

00:44:05.000 It goes to the human genome, the Cold Springs Harbor Genetic Engineering Facility.

00:44:10.000 It's all run by eugenicists. 0.98

00:44:12.000 The head of it just said, you know, black people basically aren't human. 0.98

00:44:15.000 He was back running eugenics 60 years ago there. 0.99

00:44:18.000 I mean, it's just, they're Nazis.

00:44:21.000 And it's just everywhere. 0.92

00:44:23.000 And it's criminal and they just do whatever they want.

00:44:28.000 And they'll tell you it's a law when it isn't a law, but then if you tell them it's going to a DNA database when it's on the government's own sites, they'll laugh at you. 1.00

00:44:34.000 It's a programmed nation of cowardly, mindless idiots. 1.00

00:44:38.000 And I guess myself included, I'm like a sheep. 1.00

00:44:41.000 You'd think Alex Jones wouldn't be, but you get tired fighting this 24 hours a day.

00:44:44.000 It's exhausting.

00:44:45.000 I spent two, three hours last night just reading the other briefings from the Supreme Court on the Second Amendment.

00:44:50.000 That's just, you know, the filings by the White House and others.

00:44:54.000 What a revelation there.

00:44:55.000 They say you have no right to own guns.

00:44:57.000 They say you have a right, but they have the right to ban all of them.

00:45:02.000 Which, of course, they don't.

00:45:03.000 I mean, I could talk... What do I cover?

00:45:05.000 What do I do?

00:45:07.000 What do I get into here?

00:45:10.000 They, without asking you, without anything, go in there and suck blood out of your baby, and the reason I got mad last night is I knew it went into an international database, and I knew it was for eugenics and the rest of it, and that they say they own it and they patent proteins and different things in your own DNA. 0.93

00:45:27.000 That's, by the way, in the mainstream news that I've got in front of me here.

00:45:32.000 Again, this is admitted, yuppies driving along in your car saying this doesn't exist.

00:45:37.000 What made me mad is I learned for the last five years it all goes to Homeland Security.

00:45:41.000 Your child is enrolled in a FBI DNA database through Homeland Security for five years with this now and that's what's new.

00:45:49.000 They didn't just have the samples and hey, someday they might use it for that. 0.98

00:45:54.000 They are putting your children, my babies too, in an illegal Database with the murdering scum that run Homeland Security. 0.96

00:46:04.000 And I don't mean the average officer, but the people that run it are the ones that carried out 9-11. 0.98

00:46:08.000 They're the ones that take your blood illegally and put it in illegal databases. 0.83

00:46:11.000 They are people playing God.

00:46:15.000 They do whatever they want.

00:46:16.000 They spray our cities.

00:46:17.000 They poison our water. 0.99

00:46:19.000 They're a bunch of Nazis and I'm tired of it. 0.98

00:46:22.000 America isn't cameras in school bathrooms and newborn babies in FBI DNA databases. 1.00

00:46:30.000 They're criminals!

00:46:31.000 The government is bankrupt, retrobate, and gone! 0.84

00:46:36.000 Now I'll tell you, I do a cost-benefit analysis.

00:46:38.000 Statistically, and I'm all for home births and all that, but statistically, it's more dangerous at home.

00:46:49.000 Physically for the baby.

00:46:50.000 Now then, statistically, it's more dangerous in the hospital for CPS to grab your kids.

00:46:53.000 But if you've got a little bit of money and are middle class and know your rights and are calm, you'll be fine.

00:46:58.000 If you take welfare and try to have your kid in this hospital, look out.

00:47:03.000 But I have to warn people, and I have to talk about this, I have to even talk about my private life, because I care about you.

00:47:10.000 You understand that?

00:47:11.000 Believe me, I don't, you ever hear me years ago talk about my private life?

00:47:14.000 You ever hear me talk about my children, or how many I got, or any of that?

00:47:16.000 Now you do, all the time.

00:47:17.000 Because it's just, I'm just letting it all be open, and that's just the way it is, folks.

00:47:22.000 Because, if you're gonna be free, I'm gonna be free.

00:47:25.000 And if I'm gonna be free, you gotta be free.

00:47:27.000 I love you.

00:47:29.000 I care about your children as much as I care about mine.

00:47:32.000 Do you understand that?

00:47:34.000 That's what it's supposed to be as a healthy tribal human.

00:47:40.000 It makes me sick that this is going on.

00:47:44.000 And it makes me sick that I don't have enough writers or staff or people that understand this or the time to even be able to do this or the money to hire the people that understand this stuff to write articles and And show people their rights and I want to create legal centers showing people their rights and easily downloaded forms and we try to put it all together and we give you the vaccine waiver forms for 50 states and made a section and we're working.

00:48:07.000 I mean, Paul Watson works 16 hours a day.

00:48:10.000 I work 16 hours a day.

00:48:12.000 Most people at this office work 8 hours, 10 hours.

00:48:14.000 Aaron works about 12 hours.

00:48:16.000 Rob works about 8.

00:48:18.000 Sometimes we work 14, 15, 18, 20.

00:48:18.000 Sometimes we don't sleep.

00:48:22.000 We might, you know, while making a film, there might be 10-15 nights.

00:48:24.000 We just don't sleep.

00:48:28.000 And then I want to spend time with my family.

00:48:30.000 I want to go out on a boat.

00:48:31.000 I want to go fishing.

00:48:32.000 And I can't.

00:48:34.000 I got to stay and do this.

00:48:35.000 I got to fight.

00:48:37.000 I can't.

00:48:38.000 I don't want to sit here and plug sponsors all day.

00:48:40.000 But I got to or I can't fund what I'm doing.

00:48:43.000 Also, at least I go out and get good sponsors I believe in, unlike a lot of people.

00:48:48.000 Things that I know are good.

00:48:49.000 I just, you know, there's a lot of give and take here.

00:48:51.000 Nothing's perfect.

00:48:52.000 No one's... I just... And you see, here I am just ranting emotionally where I coldly last night for an hour and I had to choose.

00:49:02.000 I said, I want to learn more about this DNA illegal database.

00:49:04.000 I was learning even more last night.

00:49:06.000 And I said, no, I have to stop this.

00:49:08.000 And I had to think, you know, maybe I won't even go in the five days I've got left and stop them from putting her in the FBI database because Because I've got to fight for the Second Amendment and I've only got limited things I can cover.

00:49:26.000 And so I literally will let my own family go by the wayside to a certain degree just to try to warn you.

00:49:32.000 You understand that's the position I'm in.

00:49:34.000 I mean, I've got my head screwed on straight, folks.

00:49:38.000 Is yours screwed on straight? 0.92

00:49:40.000 Is yours screwed on straight?

00:49:43.000 Because that isn't freedom.

00:49:46.000 Having your newborn babies put in government databases.

00:49:48.000 Now, it came out a year ago that England does the same thing.

00:49:50.000 Remember three years ago?

00:49:52.000 And I want Watson or Nemo or somebody to get all these articles and put them back together.

00:49:56.000 Or maybe folks on the prisonplanet.forum put it together nicely for me, because I don't have the staff or the research.

00:50:01.000 Actually, I remember it all.

00:50:04.000 You know, the European research, the Australian research I did.

00:50:07.000 I did all this an hour last night on the U.S.

00:50:09.000 and the developments.

00:50:10.000 I have that in front of me.

00:50:11.000 All the printouts, everything, the laws, everything.

00:50:16.000 The regulations, I should say.

00:50:19.000 And I burn with desire to warn people, but for newshounds, Australia had a couple news articles, biggest papers, three, four years ago saying, hey, we've got a 32-year database, now 35, of every kid born in the country.

00:50:36.000 We ought to use that to fight crime.

00:50:37.000 And so they announced and then put it as a criminal database.

00:50:40.000 Well, see, they've done the same thing here.

00:50:44.000 Oh, it's just so sick.

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00:53:52.000 Okay, so here's the documentation. so here's the documentation.

00:54:16.000 I wish that I could fly into the sky.

00:54:21.000 I saw a story from Op-Ed News.

00:54:24.000 Great folks over there.

00:54:27.000 But then I looked through all the mainstream documents and news stories in their article, and it just reminded me, and I read the story, and the lady, you know, that they quote in there, and the government documents they have in there, and the stories they have, don't, again, cover one-tenth of what I know.

00:54:43.000 And I don't say that as I'm tooting my horn.

00:54:47.000 I'm saying it's much worse.

00:54:49.000 But then, of the 10% though, a lot of it was stuff I didn't know, and I didn't just believe it.

00:54:54.000 I went and tracked and Googled it and searched it, and it was, frankly, what they taught me turned out to be much worse than what they even thought.

00:55:02.000 It's just from every angle.

00:55:04.000 And I got madder and madder.

00:55:06.000 But I only spent about an hour on this, and, you know, only an hour on this.

00:55:10.000 That's the problem.

00:55:11.000 I have giant stacks of things.

00:55:12.000 I spend hours on them, I spend minutes here.

00:55:15.000 How many of you start doing like a ten hour radio show or something?

00:55:21.000 States hand over DNA of newborns to DHS, Op-Ed News, and that's Marty Oakley, and it goes into the fact that And they have links to the documents and where they are now putting it in an FBI database.

00:55:42.000 They're putting it nationally in a crime database.

00:55:46.000 Just like Australia, just like England started in the last three years.

00:55:48.000 I mean, we always said, hey, you're not just taking that blood of the health department.

00:55:54.000 We knew 30 plus years ago because they started storing it and we knew that they were using it.

00:56:00.000 But see, that's the thing.

00:56:01.000 Now they're just openly, yeah, we're putting your kid in a criminal database.

00:56:07.000 Your newborn baby!

00:56:11.000 I got a newscast from CNN where they went to the house, no one was armed, no one resisted them.

00:56:15.000 They shot and killed the mother with the baby in her arms.

00:56:17.000 The bullet shot through the baby's shoulder and hand, blowing its shoulder open, cutting its fingers off.

00:56:23.000 Killed the mother and then the cops got them and said, well, we make mistakes and we didn't do anything wrong.

00:56:29.000 Nobody's getting in trouble. 0.69

00:56:31.000 It's all just nuts! 0.99

00:56:32.000 We'll put cameras in your bathrooms, we'll shoot your babies, we'll, uh, we'll, uh, just, you know, the baby deserves to be in a criminal database. 1.00

00:56:40.000 Two-year-olds in criminal databases in England because of their, quote, genetics. 0.98

00:56:45.000 But they don't even do a genetic test.

00:56:46.000 They just say, well, we just say you're poor, so you deserve it.

00:56:51.000 This is the type of news I've got.

00:56:55.000 And so I've got the combined written testimony submitted to the committee In Minnesota, I've got the state legislature hearings on it, and it goes back to when they started it.

00:57:10.000 And then I've got the federal government's own website, and then the subsidiary groups, National Newborn Screening and Genetic Resource Center.

00:57:17.000 You can just go to their website and read all about how they're doing it to you.

00:57:21.000 It's genes-r-us.gov.

00:57:25.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:57:30.000 Nationwide, the wicked University of Texas.

00:57:33.000 And if you're an alumni, I'm not bashing you individually or Bevo, the longhorn Spanish steer on massive doses of tranquilizers.

00:57:45.000 I'm saying UT is a military industrial complex front.

00:57:49.000 And they're involved in every form of wickedness you can imagine, and their permanent funds getting up close to $50 billion of cream cash not spent on anything, but their own bank accounts.

00:58:00.000 And the University of Texas, in association with the federal government, runs the entire black-off.

00:58:06.000 Go read it!

00:58:07.000 Go! 0.95

00:58:08.000 Go! 0.95

00:58:08.000 Go. 0.95

00:58:11.000 They also put up the money for Clear Channel.

00:58:15.000 You know, they really run that.

00:58:16.000 And then they handed it over to the brokerage firm headed up by Mitt Romney.

00:58:22.000 Just a few more little connections for you.

00:58:24.000 The connections don't... Thank you for listening to GCN.

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01:00:15.000 We are now into hour number two.

01:00:17.000 Let me finish up with some news I was covering.

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01:00:30.000 Okay, so for 35 years in the Echelon group of nations, I call them that because the same nations that have Echelon, I noticed about a decade ago, the NSA spying system, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the U.S.

01:00:43.000 and England all have Head Start, Secure Start, Good Start.

01:00:48.000 It's all the same programs, all the same or similar names, same police uniforms.

01:00:53.000 It's the same social planners.

01:00:54.000 It's run by the same people, the Anglo-American establishment.

01:00:58.000 And the European establishments, like the twin brother, it's almost the same, but a little different.

01:01:04.000 Worse in some cases, not in others.

01:01:07.000 You know, we're worse in some other areas than they are, but it's pretty much the same system.

01:01:10.000 But I mean exactly the same with our five nations.

01:01:14.000 Because we're all really commonwealths under the Queen of England.

01:01:17.000 We've been under that at least since 1913 back here in the U.S.

01:01:20.000 Went into receivership.

01:01:21.000 But, and then in 33 they expanded with War Powers Act.

01:01:25.000 But they take your blood at any hospital in Australia, England, U.S., Canada, and many other areas.

01:01:31.000 Those are the big five.

01:01:34.000 And they put it in a database, they use it for genetic engineering, and they say they own it, and they patent it, and they're even talking about charging you later for your own genes for gene therapy.

01:01:43.000 I'm not talking about you bagging your own blood or cord blood for your child later if they need it, with the different types of cells, the stem cells.

01:01:54.000 I'm talking about they take your baby's blood and they put it in a database.

01:01:57.000 Now, they announced in England, Australia, and now the U.S.

01:02:01.000 In the last three years that, yeah, it's going into a Homeland Security and in those countries, Scotland Yard and the rest, your child's put in the government database.

01:02:10.000 Now it's not put into the main index, but it's entered in and prepared and ready.

01:02:15.000 No Fourth Amendment, no nothing, just criminal government doing what criminals do. 0.95

01:02:20.000 Now, two years ago, I reported, because Google put a press release out, That they were going to use cameras built into almost all new computers.

01:02:31.000 By almost, I don't know of any computer that doesn't have them built into the screen, or above it, or beside it, and microphones.

01:02:37.000 And people say, well yeah, that's just so you can do video conferencing.

01:02:40.000 Yes, but they are going to use it to watch you and listen to you, and then have text ads and audio ads.

01:02:48.000 If a dog's barking, they will send you dog food ads.

01:02:52.000 That was their press release example.

01:02:55.000 And it's going to know what you're watching on television by the audio of it with keyword computers, NSA type technology.

01:03:03.000 Again, the computer puts it into text, and the Google software, which is really NSA, and it's old generation stuff, comes in, now they're upgrading it, comes in and scans it.

01:03:12.000 And so, forget just cookies and tracking you on the computer, this is your camera watching you.

01:03:19.000 We'll have repairmen around the office, or people like that, and they'll say, hey, why do you have a piece of tape over that camera on the computer?

01:03:25.000 And they'll kind of laugh at me, and when I tell them, because they can tune in and watch me, oh, they're watching you!

01:03:31.000 It doesn't matter if Google puts out a press release.

01:03:33.000 It doesn't matter if they say they're already doing it.

01:03:36.000 Comcast, and this was covered by New TV, a big industry blog, but you can actually go to Comcast announcing it, Comcast cameras to start watching you.

01:03:49.000 And this is going to be in the cable box.

01:03:51.000 Now, remember I told you ten years ago, an engineer, I was first told by an installer, then an engineer told me, yeah, these new digital scientific Atlantic cable boxes listen to you.

01:04:03.000 And he opened it up and showed me the microphone.

01:04:04.000 He said, no, no, they collect data, keywords for marketing.

01:04:08.000 That's what we're told.

01:04:09.000 And man, I had cable companies calling me up, threatening me.

01:04:14.000 Not, not, not executives saying I'm a liar.

01:04:17.000 I had people, you know, just like, I work there and how dare you lie?

01:04:20.000 And I go, what are you in?

01:04:22.000 Well, I'm in sales. 1.00

01:04:23.000 Well, then shut up. 1.00

01:04:24.000 You don't know anything. 1.00

01:04:25.000 Here it is, Comcast cameras to start watching you.

01:04:28.000 We'll cover that in the third hour.

01:04:31.000 And they say, if you don't want cable, fine.

01:04:34.000 But they say, we're going to watch you.

01:04:36.000 See, it isn't like Orwell where they make you take it.

01:04:39.000 It's like, you want a cell phone?

01:04:40.000 You want cable?

01:04:41.000 You want video games?

01:04:42.000 You want to have your baby at the hospital? 0.99

01:04:44.000 This is what we do.

01:04:46.000 We put them in a database.

01:04:47.000 We take their blood. 0.96

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01:08:14.000 Every time I think about it, I won't cry.

01:08:18.000 Reform to the deal, little kids keep coming.

01:08:21.000 Go in and read easy, no time to be young.

01:08:25.000 But I tell myself that I'm doing all right.

01:08:36.000 There's nothing left to do at night.

01:08:39.000 It's so crazy on you.

01:08:42.000 Crazy on you.

01:08:47.000 Let me go crazy, crazy on you You know, very often, pretty much every day, we have guests on who've got so many letters behind their names and have done so many interesting things and written so many best-selling books and award-winning journals that I can't, you know, really give them a good bio here. 0.54

01:09:10.000 We had him on for about 30 minutes last week.

01:09:11.000 He's with us for the rest of the hour today because it's an important subject.

01:09:15.000 Aubrey de Grey, Dr. Aubrey de Grey.

01:09:19.000 You know what, Doc, before we get into all this, it's best for you just to tell us about yourself.

01:09:24.000 I know you don't like that, but instead of me just going over 20 pages of stuff, what do you think is most important for my listeners to know about you?

01:09:30.000 Sure, I have no trouble doing that.

01:09:33.000 Well, I'm a biologist.

01:09:35.000 Specifically, I'm a biomedical gerontologist, which means that I'm interested in the biology of the aging process.

01:09:42.000 But with a view to eventually being able to do something about aging, and in particular with a view to being able to defeat it completely in the future.

01:09:51.000 I was originally a computer scientist, more of an engineer than a basic scientist, and one thing that has certainly helped me a lot in being able to make a contribution in my chosen field is that I have this sort of bipartite background, an engineering training and also a basic science training.

01:10:12.000 Tell us about some of the books and journals you've written.

01:10:15.000 Well, I have a book out that came out about six months ago.

01:10:18.000 It's called Ending Aging, and it describes the technical details of how I think we're going to go about ending aging in the foreseeable future.

01:10:28.000 I have written it very much for a general audience, so nobody who's listening should be scared of buying it.

01:10:34.000 But at the same time, I don't really cut any corners on the science either.

01:10:37.000 I go into as much detail as necessary to show that we really do know a great deal about how we're going to solve this problem.

01:10:43.000 And you head up a foundation that's one of the preeminent groups out there trying to, I guess, think tank all this information together, but also fund some of the research.

01:10:54.000 That's absolutely right.

01:10:55.000 The foundation is called the Methuselah Foundation, and we solicit funds from the general public, which we then give out again to researchers to perform important critical path research in universities around the world, so that we can hasten the defeat of aging.

01:11:11.000 You've got several sites.

01:11:13.000 Which ones are important to plug?

01:11:15.000 Well, it's all really within one site, mfoundation.org, but there are two main parts of the site.

01:11:21.000 One of them is dealing with the actual research itself, in the more abbreviated form, of course, than is present in the book, and talking about the particular research we're funding and what we'd like to fund in the future.

01:11:32.000 The other part concentrates on our other main activity, which is the M-Prize, a prize competition that we run, which is simply intended to encourage researchers to try to break the world mouse lifespan record.

01:11:45.000 And the purpose of that is because mice are sufficiently similar to humans that serious progress in postponing aging in mice is likely to have forfeitable biomedical relevance to humans.

01:11:57.000 And they're already living 50% longer!

01:12:00.000 Well, that's not completely true.

01:12:02.000 At the moment, we can get mice to live maybe 40 or 50 percent longer if we start really early.

01:12:08.000 That's what I was saying.

01:12:10.000 If we alter some of their genes before they've even been conceived, so we alter the genes of their parents.

01:12:15.000 But for those of us who have the misfortune to be already alive, the important thing, of course, is to develop therapies that can be begun in middle age and yet have some effect.

01:12:24.000 See, I think that's where we got confused last time.

01:12:27.000 I'd seen years ago, like 10 years ago, studies.

01:12:30.000 I'm sure you've seen them too, but you probably remember the details better than I do.

01:12:35.000 But talking about just with diet mice living a lot longer, you're talking about separately genetically modified mice.

01:12:42.000 That's right.

01:12:43.000 I mean, so basically the genetic modifications that have been discovered so far that make big increases in the lifespan of mice are actually based on the same sort of science as the dietary interventions that were discovered a very long time ago, 70 or so years ago.

01:12:57.000 Basically, the genetic interventions trick the mouse into thinking that it's not getting enough food, and it responds by altering its metabolism in a way that has a side effect of slowing down its rate of aging.

01:13:10.000 But the thing about that intervention, about the dietary intervention of just not feeding the mouse as much as before, is that unless you start it really pretty early in life, it doesn't really have much of an effect.

01:13:21.000 If you start in middle age, it only very slightly increases.

01:13:24.000 And we covered that last time.

01:13:26.000 I want to get into another area.

01:13:28.000 There are those trees in the high desert areas of California that they think are thousands of years old.

01:13:34.000 Not just the big redwoods, but the smaller ones.

01:13:36.000 And I remember reading in some studies, a long time ago in college, that scientists think that it's brethren, lower down, that only live 200 years, but these trees are over a thousand years, is because it's very low water, very low temperatures at night, but also hot during the day.

01:13:56.000 Is there some type of corollary in plant research to plants that are put under pressure?

01:14:03.000 There is some, but we would be very unwise to read too much into it in terms of its relevance to what we could do for ourselves.

01:14:12.000 Now I understand, but why are those trees then up on those mountains living ten times longer than their brethren down in the valley?

01:14:18.000 Well, there are a variety of reasons, including simple erosion and the degradation of the weather that you've mentioned.

01:14:25.000 But the reason why we can't read much into it is because in a tree, The cells that are actually alive still on the surface of the trunk and in the leaves and so on are all continuously dividing.

01:14:35.000 I mean, not rapidly dividing, but there is not a single living cell in a tree that has spent more than 20 or 30 years without dividing.

01:14:43.000 But our brain, our eyes, all these key parts, they stop dividing.

01:14:47.000 Absolutely, especially the brain and also the heart and one or two other tissues.

01:14:51.000 And that's really important because a non-dividing cell has much harder problems to solve in terms of avoiding aging, avoiding the accumulation of damage than a dividing cell does.

01:15:00.000 If a cell accumulates garbage, you know, material that is indigestible in some way, and it doesn't know how to get rid of it, but it divides, then that material is diluted out between the two cells.

01:15:14.000 So it can be kept at a constant level within any one cell.

01:15:17.000 And that's an enormously powerful rejuvenating influence.

01:15:20.000 And that also applies to mutations that accumulate in the DNA, for example.

01:15:24.000 You can use selection to get rid of the cells that get the mutations.

01:15:27.000 So the evolution of tissues that have long-lived non-dividing cells, especially the brain, was really the point where we sold our cells to aging.

01:15:38.000 And that's why we need biomedical technology to do something about it.

01:15:45.000 And again, he's got peer-reviewed studies, papers by major universities and medical institutions, and they're saying there's a lot of evidence.

01:15:55.000 I mean, it's backed up scientifically.

01:15:57.000 How are you saying that we now know that in the future we'll be able to put it off, and then as you said last time you were on, then if we can put it off another 30, 40, 50 years, there'll be more advances.

01:16:07.000 Then we know the development.

01:16:08.000 I mean, what is proven?

01:16:10.000 I mean, how do we know you'll be able to do this?

01:16:13.000 Ultimately, we know it simply because we know that the human body is a machine.

01:16:17.000 That's really all it comes down to.

01:16:19.000 We don't know how soon we're going to be able to do it.

01:16:21.000 I think we have a 50% chance of getting there within, let's say, 30 or so years, but we certainly don't know how long it's going to take, and that's because we don't know enough about the obstacles that we may encounter going forward.

01:16:33.000 But at the moment we can describe in quite a lot of detail all the various types of damage that the body accumulates as side effects of its normal operation.

01:16:43.000 Molecular and cellular changes throughout life that start even before we're born and that are initially harmless, just in the same way that it's okay to have a little bit of garbage in your house, but that eventually when they get too abundant they start to cause real damage.

01:16:58.000 So we need to repair those various types of damage.

01:17:02.000 Those molecular and cellular changes.

01:17:04.000 And since we can already describe what those types of change are, we can look quite closely at how we might get rid of them.

01:17:13.000 And my reason for optimism is that we can describe, not just in general terms, but in a lot of detail, exactly what we need to do, and in some cases we're pretty close to already being able to do it, to reverse those various changes.

01:17:27.000 I mean, continue, give me some examples of what we currently know that is working.

01:17:31.000 Okay, sure.

01:17:33.000 So one very well-known area of biomedical research is, of course, stem cell research.

01:17:39.000 And here I don't just mean embryonic stem cell research, I mean stem cell research in general.

01:17:43.000 Yeah, it's in the female breast, it's in fat, yeah. 0.99

01:17:46.000 Yeah, stem cells come from a lot of places, that's right.

01:17:48.000 And we're getting pretty good at manipulating cells so that they are the right sort of stem cell.

01:17:54.000 Now the reason why stem cells are important is because one of the changes that happen throughout life is that in some of our tissues, especially some parts of the brain and also the heart and one or two other places, cells die and they are not naturally replaced by the division of other cells.

01:18:12.000 So we have to help the body out by putting in new cells ourselves by medical treatment so as to maintain these various tissues.

01:18:20.000 Well that's just like if somebody, and they've seen some success, you probably know about all the hundreds of studies, but You know, with somebody with Parkinson's, you know, putting brain cells, and they can now culture these, in there, and then the body is absorbing them and using them.

01:18:35.000 That's exactly right.

01:18:35.000 Parkinson's disease turns out to be one of the easier applications of stem cell therapies because the part of the brain where the cells die is a very well-defined, localized one.

01:18:48.000 Okay, so then... But what's amazing is the brain is actually using the new cells.

01:18:52.000 That's incredible.

01:18:53.000 I mean, that's a big step towards what you're saying, isn't it?

01:18:56.000 Oh yes, absolutely.

01:18:57.000 And the reason why these things aren't so hard as they might look...

01:19:00.000 It's because the information that the cells need in order to know what to do when you put them into the brain is already encoded in those cells.

01:19:10.000 So long as they are more or less in the right state, they will take cues from their environment in just the same way, really, as the cells did when the brain was being built in the first place.

01:19:19.000 It's like the rest of the brain is a drill sergeant that tells them line up?

01:19:23.000 Well, to an approximation, yes, that's right.

01:19:26.000 Just simplification here, because this is complex stuff.

01:19:28.000 We'll be right back with our guest over this quick break.

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01:23:49.000 All right, we're going to talk about we're going to talk about some of the genetic manipulations going on, some of the injection

01:24:13.000 of stem cells, currently the treatments, and then what the research and some of the advanced stuff that's on the horizon that's being developed.

01:24:23.000 And then we'll talk about the social ramifications and even have some time near the end of this hour to take some calls with our guest at 1.0.

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01:24:33.000 Going back to Dr. Aubrey de Grey, please continue.

01:24:37.000 Okay, so one other area that's very, very important to combating aging and that is really moving forward very nicely is in the combating of one aspect of Alzheimer's disease.

01:24:50.000 So Alzheimer's disease, as you may know, is a very complicated phenomenon in which, first of all, you have got cell death, very much like in Parkinson's disease, but more distributed around the brain.

01:24:58.000 But also, you've got the accumulation of various types of indigestible molecule inside the neurons and outside the neurons.

01:25:04.000 And the stuff that accumulates outside the neurons, which is called phenol plaques, is believed by a lot of people to be a really major player in the progression of Alzheimer's disease.

01:25:13.000 So about 10 years ago, a trick was found in mice such that you could actually vaccinate against this stuff.

01:25:20.000 You could get certain cells in the brain called microglia to essentially swallow these chunks of material that were sitting around in the spaces between cells, and they would be able to destroy it once it was inside the cells.

01:25:32.000 So that treatment was so effective in mice that it's already moved to clinical trials, from the clinical trial are going very well.

01:25:39.000 The Phase 3 clinical trials, the final stage, have just begun.

01:25:42.000 So that's going nicely.

01:25:46.000 Other areas, other things that are being developed?

01:25:48.000 Well, the ones I've mentioned so far are probably the ones that are furthest along.

01:25:52.000 If we look at things that are not quite so far along but are still going pretty nicely, one example is The accumulation of really, really difficult to break down things that are inside cells already.

01:26:05.000 For example, various molecules similar to cholesterol that are inside cells in the wall of our arteries.

01:26:13.000 Cholesterol itself is not really a harmful molecule because our cells know how to deal with it, but it gets spontaneously modified into forms that our cells don't know how to deal with.

01:26:24.000 Those forms accumulate and eventually stop the cells in our artery walls from working and that's where an atherosclerotic block comes from, that's where heart disease and heart attacks and strokes come from.

01:26:35.000 So there's progress going on at the moment, actually a lot of it funded by my foundation that is looking to identify bacteria in the soil that can break down these things and then to identify the genes that they have that allow them to break down these things.

01:26:51.000 The idea here is that when we find those genes, we can modify them in some fairly obvious ways and introduce them into our own cells so as to give them a greater versatility in the range of things that they can break down.

01:27:02.000 So that's a pretty ambitious idea.

01:27:03.000 It will take quite a long time to get it to work, but when it does work, it will be by far the most effective way to address heart disease and also various other things like macular degeneration, for example, far more effective than anything we have today.

01:27:18.000 Now that's just one body of science, isn't it, that fits in as a unit into the larger plan that you've devised?

01:27:26.000 That's right, yes.

01:27:27.000 So I normally describe the range of things that need to be developed and done as breaking down into seven different categories.

01:27:34.000 And so I just mentioned that atherosclerosis and macular degeneration are both within one category.

01:27:41.000 That's because the general approach to fixing those two problems is broadly similar.

01:27:46.000 It's not exactly similar, we have to find different enzymes to break down different target compounds, but the general approach to finding those enzymes is more or less the same.

01:27:56.000 Now, guesstimation, how far along are we until somebody who's, say, 50 years old can live comfortably to 150, or are you saying we're already at that point?

01:28:11.000 I think that we have a 50% chance of developing the technologies I'm talking about here within about 25 or 30 years.

01:28:19.000 And the technologies we have at that point should, in my view, be sufficient that we can take someone who's, let's say, 60 years old at that point, in other words, let's say 30 years old now, and give them an extra 30 or so years of healthy life.

01:28:34.000 In other words, essentially rejuvenate them, not completely, not totally comprehensively back to a 20 year old, for example, but maybe back to the age of 40, the biological age of 40, such that they'll be maybe 90 years old before they get back to being biologically 60.

01:28:50.000 And during that time, those 30 years, the therapies will have been improved in terms of their comprehensiveness, so that we can apply them again, the improved therapies, to the same people who are now 90.

01:29:01.000 and we rejuvenate them back to, let's say, biologically 30 and so on.

01:29:05.000 Well, you know, I am a Christian, and I'm proud of my faith, but I don't like the quacks and kooks that take it and do a lot of weird things with her, even other groups, saying that even trying to extend life is impossible. 1.00

01:29:16.000 Same folks that said we never fly, you know, that we never have airplanes, we never have computers.

01:29:21.000 I don't know how religiously it got to become a dogma that life extension doesn't exist or is a lie or is of the devil.

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01:33:18.000 You know, I don't know if we'll be able to ever, quote, live a thousand years.

01:33:26.000 But I know certainly with technology, people will be able to live a lot longer.

01:33:29.000 There's no doubt of that.

01:33:30.000 Will we still be human?

01:33:31.000 Then that gets into the whole transhumanist, posthumanist discussion.

01:33:36.000 And I think a lot of what you're talking about borders into that, but you're talking about the admitted technologies that can extend that are being developed.

01:33:44.000 But what about people who have trouble dealing with this?

01:33:48.000 In my last film I quote futurists, saying we'll have world government and we can't let the general public have this stuff and we're going to get rid of them.

01:34:00.000 That's in Wired Magazine, Kurzweil's talking about it.

01:34:03.000 This is all being discussed And how only the rich are going to be able to have it and the suicide nihilists will basically turn into spaceships and fly off the planet and blow us up.

01:34:14.000 These guys sound nuts and they're getting huge prizes and money and they're inventing computer technology and they're billionaires so people tend to listen to Bill Joy and others.

01:34:23.000 I mean, he's a good guy, you know, saying he goes to meetings with 200 elitists and they're talking about all this.

01:34:28.000 So certainly there's a science fiction element to it, but what was science fiction 50 years ago is reality today in so many cases.

01:34:35.000 So my point is, how do you weigh the extremists on one end who are running around saying, we're going to live forever next week, with the people that say it's of the devil to even have a pacemaker?

01:34:47.000 It's much easier than you would think, actually.

01:34:50.000 Because ultimately, all of what I'm talking about revolves around alleviating the suffering that most of us have to look forward to when we get older.

01:34:59.000 And that's an awful lot of suffering, as we all know.

01:35:01.000 If we find really comprehensive treatments to all of the various things that go wrong with our bodies in later life, then people are going to welcome those things.

01:35:10.000 And it just happens that there's going to be this side effect that we won't tend to You know, to die in our sleep anymore.

01:35:18.000 We will tend to wake up the following morning, and the morning after that, and the morning after that.

01:35:22.000 But it should be regarded as a side benefit, not as the main goal, to live longer for the sake of living longer.

01:35:27.000 And I think when you talk about it and you think about it that way, the idea that there might be any religious objection to it becomes a good deal, you know, harder to defend.

01:35:42.000 I mean, I've just had other guests on like yourself.

01:35:44.000 I've mentioned this in a film, and I've gotten criticism saying I'm basically a devil for even talking about it.

01:35:49.000 But I mean, how could you not talk about it?

01:35:50.000 I mean, I remember when I had great-grandparents and grandparents dying when I was a kid.

01:35:54.000 I thought, man, I don't want to watch my parents die.

01:35:57.000 That's when I, very young, began to think about not even that I was going to get old or die myself, Exactly, and they probably didn't want to die either.

01:36:04.000 forever, you have that bulletproof attitude, but I don't want these people I love to die.

01:36:09.000 So, I mean, I don't think it's evil to discuss these things.

01:36:13.000 Exactly, and they probably didn't want to die either.

01:36:15.000 Even people who are getting quite frail and sick probably don't want to die immediately, and certainly people who are youthful mostly don't seem to want to die anytime soon.

01:36:23.000 And the question, therefore, is how do we arrange to maximize the ability of people to live as long as they want to and to stay healthy as long as they want to?

01:36:34.000 It seems to me that the message from scripture is very clear there, for example, that we're supposed to do our best to alleviate suffering and to save lives.

01:36:43.000 Well, I certainly have a good point there.

01:36:45.000 Ending lives is in any way different from saving lives because ultimately we agree that old people are people too.

01:36:50.000 And so if we reject ageism, then we have to agree that things that kill old people are just as bad as things that kill young people. 0.68

01:36:59.000 Well, I certainly have a good point there.

01:37:02.000 My whole concern is that these systems to extend our lives are leaning towards the cybernetic merging with all the genetic engineers, kind of like the whole, well, there's the whole replicant view of Blade Runner where it's pure biological, designed there's the whole replicant view of Blade Runner where it's pure biological, designed by machines and humans versus the And I just see it leaning more and more towards the cybernetic.

01:37:30.000 And then even on the genetic, I mean, really, once you get into machines and genetics, it's pretty, at least from my novice view, similar in that it's all just programming and, And setting things up so as we begin to play God, I see this erasing A lot of what we were.

01:37:48.000 Now the transhumanists say that that will actually make us something more human than human.

01:37:54.000 Can you comment on that?

01:37:55.000 Yeah, I think that it is important not to be too scared about the future decisions that humanity will make sequentially in determining whether to adopt certain opportunities for progress.

01:38:10.000 Because after all, there are plenty of times when we choose not to.

01:38:12.000 For example, we had a very rapid and successful and enthusiastic advance with regard to powered flight during the first two-thirds or so of the last century.

01:38:24.000 But then, what happened?

01:38:25.000 Why do we not have our flying cars now?

01:38:27.000 The answer is not because we couldn't, but because we couldn't be bothered.

01:38:30.000 You know, there wasn't enough pressure for them.

01:38:32.000 And similarly, these biomedical advances that may have the opportunity to merge with non-biological advances, Well, I happen to love humanity and my heritage and my ancestors and God's creation.

01:38:53.000 I mean, I don't want to fundamentally... I'm all for pacemakers, I'm all for somebody having seizures to have a chip put in there.

01:39:01.000 The problem is, every time I turn around, I mean, there's a big controversy right now, England, the US, they take babies' blood, they put it in a DNA database, and now they want to use it for law enforcement, and they don't tell the soccer moms down the street that this is going on.

01:39:16.000 We have the eugenics, we have the former head of the Cold Springs Harbor, back when it was a eugenics operation, basically saying blacks are inferior.

01:39:24.000 I mean, we have such a, the bedrock of what is the modern intelligentsia was built on this elitism, and you can say long-term everybody's going to demand these technologies for themselves, But in reality, with resources, and the elite tend to do this even when there are enough resources, they like to control the resources as a mode of domination.

01:39:46.000 And down every avenue I see, I see the haves and the have-nots.

01:39:50.000 I mean, oh, I'm rich, I don't get cancer.

01:39:53.000 I was genetically engineered, but you're a poor person, you're going to get cancer.

01:39:59.000 I think there's a good answer to that, a very persuasive answer to that prospect, and the reason why we don't need to be worrying about it, which is simply that the reason why we see inequality of access to important things at the moment is because there is not enough desire on the part of the general public, the less wealthy people, to actually get those things.

01:40:20.000 If we look at things that really are very important to everybody, then they are available when the ability to pay is found.

01:40:27.000 Like, for example, basic education is available for free in every country in the Western world.

01:40:33.000 And the reason it's free is because there's a general agreement among the population that it's important enough that it ought to be free.

01:40:40.000 I think it's going to be like that.

01:40:41.000 I think at the moment, the medical treatments that we have just aren't effective enough and therefore aren't important enough to drive that sense of I mean, everything's growing exponentially.

01:40:55.000 I think sooner than 30 years, a lot of things you're talking about are going to start happening.

01:40:59.000 Mexican Attorney General, four years ago, made a bunch of his employees taking plantable chips.

01:41:03.000 Companies are making employees.

01:41:05.000 I've had police chiefs on from the U.S.

01:41:06.000 saying they would forcibly inject us with chips because it's for our own good.

01:41:10.000 Bars make you have it to go into the topless section. 1.00

01:41:13.000 I really can't see us chaining people down and rejuvenating them by force.

01:41:16.000 And so that's the problem I see is that things like this are going to be forced on people, and it's going to be sold as a medical treatment.

01:41:26.000 Well, we've got to take care of you.

01:41:27.000 We've got all these government-paid-for clinics with your tax money, and then really these will be systems of control.

01:41:33.000 I really can't see us chaining people down and rejuvenating them by force.

01:41:38.000 It just doesn't seem very plausible.

01:41:40.000 See, but I'm not talking about your, I don't want to say narrow, it's a very wide area, but comparatively it's narrow.

01:41:46.000 I'm not talking about what you're doing or how you see this ship you're captaining, where it's going, your vision, which I think has a lot of reality to it, I mean, from my own layman's perspective.

01:41:56.000 What I'm saying is that I look at...

01:41:59.000 A lot of the other genetic engineer people, a lot of the other people in biology, a lot of the other people and they are really a bunch of freaks and I'm sure you know about a lot of your colleagues.

01:42:11.000 I mean a lot of them are eugenicists, crypto eugenicists, population reduction enthusiasts.

01:42:16.000 It sounds pretty much like enslavement to me, but I haven't thought about it or studied it at all.

01:42:20.000 I mean, I've got CBS news pieces where they're saying they're going to put chips in the prisoners' brains soon and rehabilitate them with programming.

01:42:28.000 I mean, that's enslavement, isn't it?

01:42:30.000 It sounds pretty much like enslavement to me, but I haven't thought about it or studied it at all.

01:42:35.000 As you say, I'd rather stick to my own narrow area.

01:42:37.000 Well, I mean, by narrow, it's a wide area, but you have the narrow view because you're a good guy.

01:42:43.000 You're not doing it for bad.

01:42:45.000 It won't be used for bad.

01:42:45.000 I'm just saying, just like we don't have a big debate about life extension, which we should have because it'll make people desire it, and then we will get it.

01:42:53.000 Well, at the same time, we need a bigger debate about this to make sure it's developed in the right direction instead of being used for bad.

01:42:59.000 I agree with that.

01:43:01.000 So how do we do that?

01:43:02.000 How do we have a big debate?

01:43:03.000 Well, actually, I think progress in getting the debate going on life extension may be a good start.

01:43:09.000 I think a lot of what we've seen in society over the past few decades is really important problems appearing that affect all of us.

01:43:18.000 Things like climate change or the ozone layer or whatever.

01:43:21.000 And sometimes we develop technological or other solutions that are just in time to stop the mattering.

01:43:27.000 But we're very slow about it.

01:43:28.000 And I think a large part of why we're slow is apathy that we don't think most of us don't think we can do anything.

01:43:34.000 And that's, of course, true at the level of democratic influence over what the state does in a whole range of ways.

01:43:43.000 So I would say that any progress that we may make in addressing and confronting our oldest Our oldest foe, namely aging, may actually have a certain amount of role in empowering us, so to speak, and making us aim a bit higher in terms of our ability to control other things and to make sure that technology is used for the good.

01:44:03.000 But I see the opposite happening.

01:44:06.000 I see the general public completely drunk on entertainment, totally tuning out of reality, the elite providing them, and it also makes money in the free market, with new forms of wirehead type cyberpunk distractions, literally a acquiescence, a self-insertion into a matrix.

01:44:26.000 I really see it inexorably leading it towards that.

01:44:31.000 Well, that's right.

01:44:31.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:44:32.000 This is the apathy I'm talking about.

01:44:34.000 And I think that apathy may actually be very strongly diminished once we start to make breakthroughs against this thing that we're all so scared of.

01:44:42.000 Well, I want to take some phone calls to get different angles and perspectives from listeners at 1-800-259-9231.

01:44:48.000 at 1-800-259-9231.

01:44:51.000 And we're talking to Dr. Aubrey de Grey.

01:44:54.000 And fire out the website again, sir.

01:44:57.000 Absolutely.

01:44:58.000 mfoundation.org.

01:45:00.000 And we've got links to that up on InfoWars.com right now.

01:45:03.000 Let's go to Merritt in Kentucky.

01:45:06.000 You're on the air, Merritt.

01:45:08.000 Hi, how are you doing?

01:45:09.000 Good, sir.

01:45:09.000 Hello.

01:45:10.000 Dr. DeGray, I was studying this subject probably a little over a year ago, and I was wondering, is cellular degeneration, is it still being linked to something like oxidation?

01:45:26.000 Certainly, yes.

01:45:27.000 Oxidation is a damaging... it's a term that covers a wide range of damaging chemical reactions.

01:45:34.000 Unfortunately, it also covers a wide range of important and very desirable chemical reactions.

01:45:39.000 And a large part of the reason why the early attempts to try to control and postpone aging by diminishing the level of oxidation reactions and the level of the product of those reactions is because of the side effects, because one was diminishing the things that we wanted to have as well as the things we didn't want to have.

01:45:57.000 So, that's actually one of the sorts of data that led me to the approach that I tend to follow with regard to combating aging, namely to target specifically the undesirable products of things like oxidation rather than targeting the process itself.

01:46:13.000 It tends to be a good deal more capable of avoiding those sorts of side effects.

01:46:18.000 What about telomeres?

01:46:21.000 Alright, so the idea that telomere shortening is the dominant influence on the rate of aging is the number one urban myth about aging.

01:46:30.000 Telomere shortening may have something to do with aging of some very limited tissues and it certainly appears to have a role as a sort of ancillary side effect of certain other disease states.

01:46:43.000 But in general, the cells that we have that need to divide a lot more than they could in cell culture, they're able to do so because they express a sufficient amount of this enzyme called telomerase that compensates for the telomere shortening that happens when a cell divides.

01:47:00.000 So the cells in which one observes this thing called the Hayflick limit, this finite amount of ability to divide, are cells that, when they're in the body, just don't need to divide very often.

01:47:12.000 Well, as far as the ethics angle on this, I think if we maintain our honorable intentions behind it, I think it's a very good technology, but a lot of the socio-political issues They're going around today, have to be fixed before we actually get into the meat of this thing, I think.

01:47:31.000 I think that's right.

01:47:32.000 And so the question is, what do we do?

01:47:34.000 Do we say, let's slow down the development of the technology until we're satisfied that we know what the first logical solutions are going to be?

01:47:41.000 Or should we go and develop the technology as soon as possible, but also, and parallel, do our best to come up with a forward plan in terms of the first logical implication?

01:47:50.000 I think that second approach is the best way to go, because ultimately every day we delay, we are condemning another 100,000 people to an unnecessarily early death, and that's pretty bad.

01:47:59.000 But again, you're wanting to give everybody more life.

01:48:03.000 Now, commerce is the goal of the Tyrell Corporation, that's the line from Blade Runner.

01:48:08.000 But at the same time, so many of the elite think tanks and powerful organs think there's too many people and have an absolute disgust for humanity, and all they talk about is culling the herd, as Prince Philip likes to do.

01:48:24.000 Well, all I can say is that if there are people who want to reduce the size of the human population, they don't seem to be doing very well.

01:48:32.000 Well, they have reduced the growth mightily in China and Africa and other places.

01:48:36.000 I think most of the reduction of growth has happened voluntarily.

01:48:39.000 Certainly China is an exception, but in every other country around the world in which there has been a sharp decline in the number of children that the average woman is having.

01:48:46.000 Well, I don't think infertility is voluntary.

01:48:49.000 I don't think the infertility numbers are voluntary.

01:48:52.000 Doctor, have you looked at any data that deals with life and fertility and things?

01:48:56.000 Ed Weiber sings of massive infertility in women and sperm count numbers plunging in western males.

01:49:02.000 Oh, certainly.

01:49:03.000 The situation with male fertility I'm not talking about at all.

01:49:06.000 I'm talking about the choices that women are making to have fewer children than they used to and to have them later. 0.99

01:49:11.000 And my understanding of the data is very much that the overwhelming majority of the decline in fertility that's being seen is voluntary, though of course there is a small increase in female infertility as well.

01:49:23.000 And that could be due to sociological pressures as well.

01:49:26.000 You have these hypochondriacs that think they're sick and make themselves physically sick.

01:49:31.000 Well, look, I've seen the numbers.

01:49:33.000 A large portion, but not even half, of it is that it's 45-year-old professional women who finally want to have a child.

01:49:40.000 But no, we have massive infertility now developing in 18-, 20-, 30-year-old women, men.

01:49:46.000 I mean, I know a lot of fertility doctors.

01:49:48.000 I've seen the numbers.

01:49:49.000 Something's going on.

01:49:50.000 Yeah, certainly for men there's plenty going on, and there's a lot that's not known about how it's going on.

01:49:55.000 But of course, the technologies that I'm talking about, among the applications of those technologies will be technologies that can restore fertility by making, for example, testicular stem cells work better.

01:50:08.000 I understand, that's amazing, and that certainly is something that's important.

01:50:12.000 And can certainly help a lot of people.

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01:55:39.000 Going back to our guest, apropos, I didn't even know that Bummer Music was coming up, it randomly plays, Aubrey de Grey, talking about life extension technologies, what about accidents?

01:55:49.000 In the future, if people are living to 150 years old, will they become accident-obsessed?

01:55:54.000 Because statistically, the most dangerous thing is automobile accidents or electrocution or grounding.

01:56:00.000 I mean, will we become a society basically encased in styrofoam so as to not be hurt?

01:56:07.000 Or will we have robot nannies that take care of us? 1.00

01:56:10.000 I think we will take much more care not to expose ourselves to risks.

01:56:15.000 But I think obsessed may be too strong a word.

01:56:19.000 I think one consequence of an increased quality and quantity of life will be that we place a higher value on life, and I think that's going to make the world a much less violent place, because people just will take other people's lives more seriously, same as they take their own more seriously.

01:56:34.000 But, with regard to accidental death, I think there are going to be lots of ways in which we just throw money at the problem.

01:56:42.000 For example, with regard to automobile accidents, we already have, in the military, plenty of technology available that can involve, you know, very sophisticated sensors to invoke automatic overrides in the case of human error, whether on the part of the driver or a pedestrian, for example.

01:56:59.000 It's just that those technologies are really expensive, so nobody puts them into your average automobile.

01:57:03.000 Exactly.

01:57:04.000 And then we have, as I said, computers keeping us safe, running everything, and then they take over.

01:57:09.000 How do you deal with that?

01:57:11.000 Because by the time we get these life extension technologies and can basically keep postponing death almost indefinitely, barring hyperactive super viruses that come out of nowhere or meteors hitting us or jet airplane crashes and everything, I mean, there'll always be something that'll have a fix for that, but it's a practice on ourselves, you know, perfecting it.

01:57:31.000 How do you deal with the artificially intelligent computer taking over?

01:57:36.000 Well, I sometimes feel that computers have already taken over my life.

01:57:39.000 I seem to spend my entire day sitting at one.

01:57:42.000 But, no, seriously, I think that so long as it's gradual, so long as we make our own choices with regard to how much we get computers to do for us, and we know that we're making those choices and that we can always reverse them, I don't really see a big problem with it.

01:57:57.000 But we've already got computers, pretty much designing computers, and no one person knows how the whole computer works.

01:58:03.000 You've got all these expert eggheads who are geniuses and have trouble understanding it.

01:58:07.000 I mean, we're already getting there where the computers are going to take total control.

01:58:11.000 Even if they're not AI and evil like the Terminator, it's just that they'll just start making decisions.

01:58:18.000 It is important not to let the whole thing go out of control, and some of my good friends actually are working on precisely that problem on the design of computers.

01:58:24.000 Oh, I want to hear a little bit about that.

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02:00:03.000 Go ahead.

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02:00:07.000 All right, let's go ahead and go back to your calls.

02:00:16.000 Ted in Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Aubrey DeGray.

02:00:19.000 Go ahead.

02:00:20.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

02:00:21.000 Hello.

02:00:22.000 I spoke to you a couple weeks ago about the swimming pool water.

02:00:27.000 And I originally called to suggest that eliminating chlorine in tap water, drinking chlorinated tap water might produce some life extension.

02:00:37.000 And as I researched the article that you asked me to do, I found that they've begun replacing chlorine with chloramines, Which is a far more dangerous oxidizer and chemical, and I was wondering if Dr. DeGray knew anything about that.

02:00:57.000 The cocktail of toxic waste in our water.

02:01:00.000 I brought up toxins last week with him and he said that wasn't as big a problem, but from all the studies I've seen, I mean massive increases in cancers, you name it, with all the stuff they're adding, the stuff we're breathing, the mercury from the coal plants.

02:01:15.000 Yeah, I don't want to belittle these things.

02:01:17.000 These things are certainly things that we need to worry about and we need to try to prevent.

02:01:22.000 However, we have to remember, we have to keep a sense of proportion about it if we're talking about life extension and the postponement of age-related disease, because we know that Ted, did you send me that story you put together?

02:01:33.000 continuing to increase despite the increase in all of these pollutants and so on.

02:01:37.000 And, you know, that's the simplest form of evidence that says that the main determinant of how long we live is not what we take in in terms of pollutants, but rather what's going on intrinsically in our bodies as a side effect of our normal metabolism.

02:01:50.000 Ted, did you send me that story you put together?

02:01:53.000 Yes, I do.

02:01:54.000 And you guys have the website, the page that it's on with some photos.

02:01:58.000 Okay, did they post it?

02:02:01.000 I don't know.

02:02:01.000 That was... I just gave it to him.

02:02:02.000 I can give it to you right now.

02:02:04.000 No, just send it to Aaron at InfoWars.

02:02:05.000 Thank you.

02:02:07.000 Harry in Florida.

02:02:08.000 You're on the air with Dr. DeGray.

02:02:09.000 Go ahead.

02:02:11.000 Yes.

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02:02:15.000 It's great to talk to you and your guest.

02:02:17.000 I'd like to ask him about what he thinks about the patenting.

02:02:21.000 Like Geron patented the telomerase gene.

02:02:24.000 What does he think about the patenting and how the investments Well, the tremendous investment leads to a rush to market like it did with the plant genetics.

02:02:34.000 I don't have any real fears in that area.

02:02:37.000 I think the market will look after itself in regard to all of this.

02:02:40.000 And I think one of the main reasons for not being scared is that the therapies that are going to be necessary in order to comprehensively postpone aging will have many, many different components.

02:02:51.000 Each of which will have been developed by different people, and these patents will be owned by different people.

02:02:55.000 So there will be a requirement to have a great deal of collaboration and business common sense, shall we say, in order to... Well, let me throw this out, though, Doc, and I understand you're real positive about all this, and I'm not saying it doesn't have a positive sign.

02:03:07.000 It's one thing if it's for humans, and we know a lot of bad drugs and things do get on the market, but I agree there's more focus on that than, say, GMO crops.

02:03:14.000 But there's total evidence of GMO crops, the ones that have been heavily altered, causing all sorts of problems.

02:03:21.000 And so I don't have confidence that there's not going to be all sorts of disasters.

02:03:26.000 It's certainly important to regulate the experimental testing of things that are used on all of the living world, absolutely, because the knock-on effects can be very unpredictable.

02:03:38.000 And I don't deny that there have been some cases, not just in the case of drugs applied to humans, in which things have been pushed forward too quickly.

02:03:47.000 Sure.

02:03:48.000 Anything else, Collar?

02:03:50.000 Yes, yes Alex.

02:03:52.000 I was an early investor in plant genetic companies and it seems like mostly the wondrous things that they promised us, they've actually used most of the inventions towards evil, like putting more nicotine in the tobacco plants, may be able to use more chemicals on the plants.

02:04:10.000 So there's a tremendous potential for this to be misused and in fact they forced the The people in our country to take it without any labeling.

02:04:19.000 It's all in all our foods without any labeling.

02:04:21.000 I'd like to hear his remarks about that.

02:04:24.000 Well, this is not really my area.

02:04:26.000 Mr. DeGray, we've got a break right now.

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02:04:32.000 Then we're going to then go to Tibet with what's happening there with a guest as well on that subject.

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02:08:04.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:08.000 I'm sorry.

02:08:46.000 Boys, they We're already well into the third hour.

02:08:49.000 I can hear someone knocking on the door There are voices in the street And the sound of running feet And they whispered Thank you for joining us today.

02:09:03.000 We're already well into the third hour.

02:09:05.000 And I appreciate Dr. Aubrey de Grey joining us, best-selling author, researcher, published scientist, computer engineer, biologist, and really interesting debates and discussions that we've had today.

02:09:21.000 We have Urgentinzin, who is the director for the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy, to give us the inside scoop on what's going on there.

02:09:32.000 And he's on hold right now.

02:09:33.000 I just wanted to go back to Aubrey de Grey.

02:09:35.000 Mr. de Grey, thank you for coming on with us.

02:09:39.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

02:09:41.000 Just finishing up that fellow's last question when he was talking about some of the unsavory things he witnessed as an investor.

02:09:48.000 Yeah, I mean, I think this is certainly true, that some things are not always rolled out in the optimal way.

02:09:57.000 But ultimately, let's remember, we do all live in a democracy.

02:10:00.000 And our elected representatives are the people who control all this.

02:10:04.000 Their ultimate goal is to get re-elected, and so it's really just a question of how much we care.

02:10:09.000 If we want something to be done, then we can get it done.

02:10:13.000 Well, Dr. DeGray, I hope in the next six months or so we can have you back up to get more in-depth in all of this, and I really appreciate your time.

02:10:19.000 Fire out the name of the new book and the website.

02:10:22.000 The name of the new book is Ending Aging, and the website is mfoundation.org.

02:10:27.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

02:10:28.000 Thanks for having me on the show.

02:10:30.000 Take care.

02:10:31.000 Okay, we do have Mr. Timzin on the line.

02:10:37.000 Fantastic, getting him lined up there from India. 1.00

02:10:41.000 And he's the director of the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy.

02:10:45.000 We have reports of the Chinese paramilitary police.

02:10:49.000 Parading people on the backs of flatbed cars all over different cities in Tibet.

02:10:55.000 The Reuters is reporting that the rebellion against the tyranny has spread.

02:10:59.000 We're now seeing neocon propaganda demonizing Tibet and trying to either make stuff up about the Tibetans or exaggerate things.

02:11:10.000 They're certainly not perfect, no one is, compared to the communist Chinese. 1.00

02:11:14.000 They hadn't killed 60 million of their own people, I know that.

02:11:17.000 Penn and Teller attacking them, the list goes on and on.

02:11:19.000 I'm basically saying, a lot of our media is saying China's good.

02:11:23.000 And boy, that's not just a 180 from our government supporting the Tibetans, who have obviously been invaded, enslaved, and mass-murdered, and their women forced to marry Chinese. 0.90

02:11:33.000 I'm not bashing Chinese either. 0.95

02:11:36.000 It's to commit genocide, destroy their culture. 0.99

02:11:39.000 Our government's gone from, the Tibetans are good, to neutral, to now they're bad. 1.00

02:11:46.000 And by government, I'm seeing the media and others push this, and we appreciate our guest for coming on with us.

02:11:57.000 Ergin Tenzin, thank you for coming on.

02:12:00.000 Yes, hello.

02:12:02.000 Thank you for coming on.

02:12:03.000 Can you give us, because you have of course inside sources like no one else inside Tibet right now.

02:12:08.000 We're seeing a news blackout since they expelled foreigners three days ago, and less and less info coming out.

02:12:14.000 What's really happening there?

02:12:17.000 Now the situation inside Tibet is very tense, and it's worsening day by day.

02:12:22.000 And according to our informed sources, now the Chinese have already started house-by-house raids in the cities of Lhasa before the deadline given by the Chinese.

02:12:37.000 So now in the Lhasa streets you can see only military tranks rolled, and people are afraid to come outside.

02:12:45.000 Uh, or effort to speak with outside people, you know, and we have also got information that more than 1,000 Tibetans have been arrested and more than 23 people, uh, uh, more than 70 people have been killed, you know, and 23 people have already been shot dead by the Chinese in one incident, you know, so it's very unfortunate and Chinese, they are continuing with the repressive action, uh, against the peaceful Tibetan demonstrators in Tibet. 0.83

02:13:15.000 Have you seen the reports in the western media?

02:13:17.000 They are the minority of the reports.

02:13:19.000 The majority are neutral, but a minority are actually demonizing the Tibetans with this information.

02:13:27.000 That's the first time I've seen this.

02:13:29.000 Have you seen this?

02:13:32.000 Yes, please.

02:13:33.000 I couldn't pick up your question, please.

02:13:35.000 Will you read the question?

02:13:37.000 Let me be clear.

02:13:38.000 There are some Western media outlets, some media in the West, is siding with the Communist Chinese.

02:13:47.000 Are you aware of that?

02:13:49.000 Yes, yes.

02:13:50.000 There are so many Western media giving information from Tibet, you know, but the Chinese, they have now already started sending back Western reporters, you know, out of Tibet.

02:14:05.000 We've got press reports about the rebellion by the Tibetans spreading all over the country.

02:14:14.000 Yeah, the demonstration in Tibet is now taking place all over Tibet.

02:14:20.000 It's outside the Tibet Autonomous Region also.

02:14:24.000 So the demonstration is taking place in all parts of Tibet.

02:14:32.000 Can you go through any details that you've gotten from your sources inside Tibet that we haven't seen on the news?

02:14:39.000 More details about the rebellion.

02:14:43.000 You see, the demonstration has first started on 10th March, commemorating with the 49th anniversary of Tibetan National Uprising Day.

02:14:55.000 On 10th March, you know, the Tibetan monks in the Devong Monastery and Ganden Monastery, they have initiated the demonstration, and simultaneously took place in other places, like Napa County in the Kriti Monastery and other regions also.

02:15:16.000 So it almost took part in all the other regions, you know.

02:15:21.000 Absolutely.

02:15:24.000 Yes, and it is protest.

02:15:26.000 You know, the Tibetan monks, Tibetan nuns, and then Tibetan students and Tibetan nomads, you know, and all the ordinary peoples, almost all Tibetan diaspora, they have raised against the Chinese rule inside Tibet.

02:15:43.000 Well, let's be clear, this all started after 50 plus years of bombings and attacks and arrests and secret police, and in the last few weeks going around and arresting

02:15:53.000 uh... leaders of the opposition then people peacefully on the fifty-plus anniversary of a mass murder uh... as the press has reported peacefully demonstrating its chinese domination and that's when they attack the peaceful people the chinese military now the peaceful people are fighting back how are they beginning to physically fight back we are saying still some video burning buildings and things like that

02:16:23.000 The Tibetan people, you know, they have started the demonstration peacefully.

02:16:27.000 And, you know, the demonstration was in a number of... so many numbers, you know, like it was crossing 2,000, 5,000, 3,000, you know.

02:16:37.000 So the Chinese armed police, you know, they tried to clamp down on the demonstrators and they cracked down, started beating them and just shooting guns in the...

02:16:51.000 Yeah, you know, so that's why, you know, sometimes, you know, the cows, they got frustrated and they started throwing stones.

02:17:00.000 They got tired of groveling to thugs and they decided to fight back.

02:17:06.000 They got frustrated, you know, they are tired, you know, the military, they are beating like anything, you know.

02:17:13.000 But bullies always push and push and push until you push back, don't they?

02:17:18.000 Yes.

02:17:21.000 Yeah, right here in Austin, they're doubling the size of the SWAT team, swelling with recruits to dominate and oppress us.

02:17:28.000 But it's all part of the new liberty here in a country where they forcibly take DNA samples from your children for FBI databases at birth.

02:17:34.000 It's part of the land of the free, home of the slaves. 1.00

02:17:38.000 We're talking again, ladies and gentlemen, to the director of the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy.

02:17:43.000 Sir, in the time we've got left, anything else that's important for people to know?

02:17:47.000 Any other reports?

02:17:48.000 Anything that I haven't asked you that people need to know?

02:17:51.000 Yes, I want to let the people know that the situation inside Tibet is very tense, and now the Chinese government, they are kicking out all the foreign journalists out of Tibet.

02:18:07.000 and now information is very hard to come from Tibet, you know.

02:18:11.000 So we want to appeal to the world to give attention to the Tibetan issue and send your free media into the world, you know, because in Chinese, you know, there are billion people countries and they get only censored there are billion people countries and they get only censored information.

02:18:31.000 Whatever the government information is given to them, they receive only that kind of information.

02:18:36.000 So it's very important that there should be a freedom of press inside Tibet, you know, which is very important.

02:18:44.000 And we appeal to all the peace-loving countries.

02:18:49.000 The United Nations, you know, to send a fact-finding mission inside Tibet, you know, otherwise there is no other way to know the real situation inside Tibet.

02:19:00.000 Are the Chinese letting the U... Are the Chinese Communists letting the UN in?

02:19:06.000 Yes, they're trying to pressurize all the other countries, you know, because they are super-powered, economically very strong, you know.

02:19:15.000 So they use, I mean, like, their power in the economic market and all, you know.

02:19:21.000 And so the UN isn't going in?

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02:24:40.000 Final segment with our guest.

02:24:42.000 I've got a ton of news.

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02:24:46.000 He is the director of the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy.

02:24:50.000 To boil it down, you heard the UN isn't helping.

02:24:52.000 They're not going to help.

02:24:53.000 The U.S.

02:24:54.000 isn't helping.

02:24:55.000 No one's helping.

02:24:56.000 It's all just lip service.

02:24:57.000 And now our media is starting to lie and exaggerate about the Tibetans.

02:25:02.000 It's just getting sicker and sicker.

02:25:05.000 In closing, sir, how do we support you guys?

02:25:08.000 How do we help you guys?

02:25:10.000 And any websites, phone numbers, anything else we need to know, sir?

02:25:15.000 Yes.

02:25:16.000 If peace-loving people or a country, they want to support the Tibetan cause, and they really want to know the Tibetan Uh, issue, you know, and to follow up this, what is going inside Tibet, you can visit our website, that is pchrd.org, and then you will get all the latest information about what is happening inside Tibet, you know.

02:25:40.000 And at the time, we appeal to, uh, all, all our supporters, you know, who, who, who like, uh, love peace and, uh,

02:25:52.000 To support us, you know, and appeal your government to pressurize China to send a tech-finding mission into Tibet, you know, and to restore the human rights of the Tibetan people, and please ask your government to send a free media inside Tibet.

02:26:14.000 Sure.

02:26:14.000 Mr. Tenzin, last question.

02:26:16.000 What do you predict is going to happen?

02:26:18.000 Is this going to spread?

02:26:19.000 Is this going to embarrass the Olympics?

02:26:21.000 Is this going to get the Olympics boycotted?

02:26:23.000 I mean, do you think this resistance to tyrants is going to continue?

02:26:29.000 Yes.

02:26:29.000 I think this has given ample indication of human rights violations inside Tibet.

02:26:36.000 So I think now it has become very hard for The Chinese, you know, it has shown the world how the Chinese are dealing with the human rights violation inside Tibet.

02:26:48.000 And all the participants, now they must rethink about participating in the Olympic Games, you know.

02:26:55.000 So, until and unless China stops brutal action against the peaceful demonstrators, I think all other countries should reconsider of what they do in the future, you know.

02:27:08.000 All right, sir.

02:27:09.000 Well, thank you for spending time with us, and we'll talk to you in the next few days as this develops.

02:27:14.000 Okay.

02:27:14.000 Thank you, Mr. Thank you.

02:27:17.000 Ah, man.

02:27:18.000 Now, again, I feel empathy for what's happening in Tibet.

02:27:24.000 And I've seen so many news pieces and comedy pieces and other things. 0.87

02:27:29.000 Billing the Dalai Lama is some type of wicked dictator.

02:27:33.000 And how the Tibetans deserve what's happening to them, and the Chinese, Communist Chinese government are good. 1.00

02:27:38.000 I want to be sure and differentiate between the Chinese people and their corrupt government. 1.00

02:27:42.000 It's killed at least 60 million of them.

02:27:44.000 And obviously the Dalai Lama's not perfect.

02:27:47.000 I don't follow his religion. 0.84

02:27:48.000 I don't follow what that country did or what they believed in, but they were statistically a pretty peaceful, prosperous, but also sparsely populated roof of the world, you know, on average about 12,000 feet.

02:28:02.000 Uh, population.

02:28:04.000 Some of them living up as high as 18,000 feet.

02:28:06.000 Incredible.

02:28:08.000 Uh, and they have this huge military just roll in after the Communists took over.

02:28:13.000 And it's now been declassified that our government gave them the weapons.

02:28:17.000 Our government gave the Communist Chinese the power. 1.00

02:28:19.000 They actually blocked and sabotaged the Nationalists.

02:28:23.000 And it is just, it is just despicable to see The way our country's changed, the way we've gone from supporting the Tibetans, at least on the surface, because they had to, meanwhile funding their enemies all day, to now just publicly, yeah, they deserve it. 0.93

02:28:41.000 They're bad. 0.99

02:28:42.000 They're evil. 0.66

02:28:44.000 And that's just basically the end of the story.

02:28:46.000 Okay, here's what I'm going to do.

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02:28:58.000 I'm also going to get into your cable boxes watching you.

02:29:00.000 Now, I know for our listeners that's old news, but now it's in the mainstream media.

02:29:05.000 And they just hide incredible things in plain view.

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02:33:41.000 Don't forget, we're not just here weekdays, 11 to 2 central, 12 noon to 3 p.m.

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02:34:00.000 It's not the kill.

02:34:03.000 It's the thrill.

02:34:08.000 Ha ha! 0.86

02:34:11.000 It's the thrill of the chase.

02:34:16.000 Feel it coming.

02:34:21.000 It's knocking at the door.

02:34:25.000 Okay, let's go ahead and plunge into the news here today.

02:34:29.000 I've already covered some of this in the first hour.

02:34:34.000 There's no real way to even categorize this.

02:34:37.000 I tried this morning.

02:34:39.000 We've already covered what's happening in Tibet.

02:34:41.000 We've got into live extension technologies.

02:34:43.000 We've also had on the editor from the London Guardian, their financial editor, Talk about the possibility of coming depression and how our government and corporations engineered what's happening with the subprime mortgages in the first hour.

02:35:01.000 You know, I'm not going to do rhyme or reason.

02:35:04.000 I'm just going to borrow into the stack and I'm going to just cover it.

02:35:09.000 Drinkers face drug checks.

02:35:12.000 Customers were tested for drugs before they could go for a pint in an Oxford pub.

02:35:19.000 About 80 people were tested with drugs.

02:35:25.000 I.T.E.

02:35:26.000 Miser outside the Blackbird in Blackbird Lays last Friday night with the promise of more crackdowns to come.

02:35:34.000 Two people were arrested, seven were searched, and a quantity of suspected cocaine was found, police said.

02:35:40.000 Landlord Glenn Williams said he wanted to prove drugs were not being taken in his pub.

02:35:46.000 Officers Hailed the stop checks, the first such operation in Blackbird a success. 0.62

02:35:52.000 Let's stop right there.

02:35:54.000 This isn't Russia. 0.65

02:35:55.000 This isn't Communist China.

02:35:57.000 By the way, they don't do that there.

02:35:58.000 Never did.

02:35:59.000 This is England, the supposed birthplace of modern liberty and what turned into the United States.

02:36:05.000 That's where our system comes from.

02:36:08.000 And I see reports every day where they demand your thumb scan, face scan to go in, where they demand DNA samples.

02:36:16.000 Where they demand to search you, and they are just doing this in mass.

02:36:23.000 And they also set up these mobile vans that they make you walk into, walk through, that scan your body, basically with high-powered sound waves.

02:36:33.000 Some of them use other systems.

02:36:35.000 Then they get a digital naked image of your body.

02:36:39.000 I mean genitals, everything. 0.90

02:36:41.000 More human than human.

02:36:42.000 It's better than the human eye.

02:36:43.000 You can see every pore, everything.

02:36:44.000 And they record that onto a database.

02:36:46.000 And they swipe your card when you go in.

02:36:48.000 Let me see.

02:36:48.000 They swipe your card.

02:36:49.000 You're naked.

02:36:50.000 You go through it.

02:36:52.000 It's just like in England and the U.S.

02:36:53.000 They put you in a DNA database.

02:36:55.000 They've been doing it for 35 years.

02:36:56.000 And now they've announced Homeland Security's doing it.

02:37:00.000 And I've got direct government websites.

02:37:03.000 University of Texas running it.

02:37:04.000 Nationwide here in the U.S.

02:37:07.000 They don't.

02:37:07.000 They just do it.

02:37:09.000 You're a newborn baby, folks.

02:37:11.000 45 days after they're born.

02:37:12.000 If you don't contest it, it goes into the FBI database under Homeland Security.

02:37:19.000 That's not freedom.

02:37:20.000 That's not liberty.

02:37:20.000 That's not a free society.

02:37:22.000 The government's criminal.

02:37:24.000 See, I said I would just read headlines and move on.

02:37:26.000 I can't.

02:37:27.000 It's all interconnected.

02:37:29.000 Customers were tested for drugs before they could go for a pint in an Oxford pub.

02:37:36.000 We got very good feedback, and it went without a problem.

02:37:39.000 See, it's a sheep training drill.

02:37:42.000 The cops just ordered them to do it, and they would do it.

02:37:44.000 They said, oh, they like it.

02:37:45.000 Just like the British News always says, everyone loves the cameras.

02:37:48.000 You have actual polls, though, they all hate it.

02:37:51.000 They'll say, everyone loves the European Union in England, but you read the polls, 90% now hate it.

02:37:56.000 The polls are from 80 to 90 plus percent.

02:37:59.000 But see, this is written for cattle.

02:38:01.000 The whole article is just to, oh, we just, uh, Only one person refused to go through, and that gentleman was arrested.

02:38:10.000 So, let's be clear.

02:38:13.000 You don't even have a choice.

02:38:15.000 You think you're going into a bar, and boom, they're there drug testing you.

02:38:21.000 I believe it was success, and we will be using the IT-Mizer, that's some kind of tester, again at the Blackbird whenever we see fit.

02:38:30.000 Whenever we see fit, because we're the government, we're God.

02:38:32.000 This was the first in a line of initiatives to fight drugs that we will bring into Lee's.

02:38:42.000 We got very good feedback.

02:38:43.000 The overwhelming opinion from people was that it was a good thing and they could enjoy a Friday night without worry.

02:38:49.000 Without worry.

02:38:50.000 Cocaine.

02:38:51.000 The guy goes, you're not going to test me for drugs.

02:38:53.000 Oh, we know you've got cocaine, you're arrested.

02:38:57.000 Guilty until proven innocent.

02:38:58.000 Just like all your bank accounts are instantly uploaded to the government.

02:39:02.000 Ten years ago they had to file a suspicious transaction report and they would see your account.

02:39:07.000 Now it's just all there.

02:39:08.000 The government just types in, they go right in.

02:39:10.000 Most of the time they try to cover it up, but government people are in there stealing money out of accounts every day or giving it to their cousin who steals it.

02:39:17.000 They kind of fence it out.

02:39:19.000 And it's just a reign of corrupt evil.

02:39:21.000 Child molesters in every major state around the CPS, Texas, Florida, it's all over the news, Massachusetts.

02:39:26.000 I mean, just mainstream news.

02:39:28.000 Child molesters in every top position.

02:39:31.000 Mass rape rooms in all the Texas youth homes.

02:39:33.000 All of them, the press admits it. 0.97

02:39:35.000 The women's prison, giant rape rooms, making videotape porno movies of torture films. 0.68

02:39:41.000 They shut it down two years ago outside Austin.

02:39:44.000 I can just talk about right where I live. 1.00

02:39:45.000 Just total frothing criminals everywhere and then useful idiot morons working next to them who don't even know they're sitting next to the devil. 1.00

02:39:53.000 It's just corruption gone to seed, gone to seed, gone to seed, gone to seed, gone to seed. 1.00

02:39:59.000 It's like giving loans to people with no job and no credit.

02:40:02.000 The whole system corrupt, blown, shot, fried.

02:40:08.000 And a huge mass of cattle that still think we're in Mayberry, still think it's Leave it to Beaver, who still think everything's alright.

02:40:16.000 There's us.

02:40:19.000 The good people. 1.00

02:40:20.000 And then there's just scum running and sucking and feeding off the entire government apparatus. 1.00

02:40:26.000 Apparatchik. 1.00

02:40:31.000 And then there's England.

02:40:32.000 And they're starting this year too now.

02:40:35.000 Five million cameras in England.

02:40:36.000 Telescreen shouting orders.

02:40:38.000 Thumb scanning.

02:40:38.000 Face scanning.

02:40:39.000 Transponders taxing you by the mile.

02:40:41.000 Total control.

02:40:42.000 No free speech allowed.

02:40:43.000 Police put you in terror databases for videotaping or even talking in groups of bigger than three. 0.96

02:40:48.000 Suddenly show up, you can be pot-bellied and, you know, look like you're 50 like I do, and they walk over and tell you, move along, they do it to other bitches, total secret police everywhere, feeding on everyone, control freaks, running around, most of the cops are foreigners, frothing and laughing and snicker giggling. 1.00

02:41:06.000 And what do they do? 0.97

02:41:07.000 What do they ship in?

02:41:08.000 You think that island country with iron-clad controls One of the biggest cocaine users in the world.

02:41:14.000 One of the biggest marijuana users in the world.

02:41:16.000 One of the biggest other... The government is shipping that in and they've been caught.

02:41:22.000 It's disgusting! 1.00

02:41:24.000 You want to hurt these scumbags? 1.00

02:41:26.000 Go into rehab. 1.00

02:41:27.000 Get off the drugs. 0.99

02:41:29.000 Kick it. 1.00

02:41:29.000 Decide it in the big... Stop using their filth! 1.00

02:41:33.000 It's disgusting! 1.00

02:41:37.000 It's a disgusting, disgusting, disgusting situation. 0.91

02:41:42.000 Oh, you want me to do ten or fifteen shows, three hours long, just with experts on and all the admissions and news articles of state police, feds, CIA, DEA, all caught shipping in tractor-trailers of pure cocaine? 0.80

02:41:56.000 You know why that's important, it's pure cocaine they always get caught shipping in?

02:41:59.000 That means directly from the source.

02:42:03.000 Every time the government gets caught with a plane or a truck or a boat full of it, it's pure.

02:42:13.000 And it's not like it's a debate.

02:42:14.000 Don't sit there in your squad car.

02:42:15.000 I mean, a local talk show host last week was saying, I just can't believe what the people say about Alex Jones, that the government ships the drugs in.

02:42:26.000 I've been an officer for years, a local talk show host now, and that's not true.

02:42:32.000 The head of the New York Stock Exchange, Richard Grasso, went to the FARC publicly in front of news reporters and said, invest your drug money with us, and under federal law, They are authorized to.

02:42:44.000 Oh yeah, drug dealing's legal at the international and banking level.

02:42:47.000 You didn't know that?

02:42:49.000 These laws are for you.

02:42:52.000 Because they had to breed a force of federalized local police, because the feds give them the grant money, to kick down doors and drag people out. 0.99

02:43:00.000 It isn't for drugs.

02:43:03.000 It also fills the private prisons owned by the drug cartels.

02:43:05.000 That was their first phase. 0.99

02:43:07.000 Phase two is huge cadres of black scheme-ass guys that'll come to your house and kill you. 1.00

02:43:12.000 And come to your house and take you to the FEMA camp. 0.99

02:43:14.000 And don't roll your eyes, it's all over the news now, cops!

02:43:18.000 And don't worry, you're working for guys that are going to take your pension and everything you got down the line.

02:43:22.000 So you'll be punished by what you're doing yourself.

02:43:24.000 And by the way, drink some more fluoride water. 0.97

02:43:26.000 Don't listen to kooks like me. 0.94

02:43:29.000 Don't listen to me. 0.99

02:43:30.000 Just, you know, I'm a kook.

02:43:32.000 Okay?

02:43:33.000 I'm a kook.

02:43:34.000 I don't like this.

02:43:36.000 The Chicago Tribune, remember?

02:43:38.000 Janet Jackson had the wardrobe malfunction, and TiVo said three years ago at the Super Bowl, oh, what was the record?

02:43:44.000 2.3 rewinds.

02:43:47.000 And the Chicago Tribune said, well, how are you doing that?

02:43:51.000 Everybody called me, Alex, you're right, you're right.

02:43:53.000 You said TiVo tracks what we watch and what we do and creates psychological databases on us.

02:43:59.000 And I said, well, you think I just make that up?

02:44:01.000 Then I told you, because they put a press release out, boy, big detective work on my part, that they're using the audio and cameras in your computers.

02:44:09.000 Multiple companies, by the way, are doing it.

02:44:11.000 But Google made the announcement to watch you.

02:44:14.000 Oh, that's freedom!

02:44:19.000 Well, here it is today, Comcast cameras to start watching you.

02:44:23.000 If you have some tinfoil handy, now might be... See, this is a big TV blog saying this.

02:44:29.000 But see, they still gotta do the pre-joke.

02:44:31.000 Well, they're there doing it, but you're kooky to even read the article and say you don't want it.

02:44:37.000 See that conditioning?

02:44:38.000 Oh, well, it's kooky to be against it.

02:44:39.000 I better let them watch me in my house.

02:44:41.000 See?

02:44:42.000 See how being a mindless jellyfish who's a PAC follower destroys you?

02:44:48.000 If you have some tinfoil handy, now might be a good time to fashion a hat at the Digital Living Room conference today.

02:44:54.000 And they have a link to it.

02:44:58.000 Gerard Kunkel, Comcast Senior VP of User Experience, told me that the cable company is experimenting with different camera technologies built into devices so it can know who is in your living room.

02:45:13.000 The idea being that if you turn off your cable box, it recognizes you and pulls up shows already in your profile or makes recommendations.

02:45:21.000 And of course, it's two-way.

02:45:23.000 It goes into how they watch you and track you.

02:45:25.000 If parents are watching TV with children, for example, parental controls could appear to block certain content from appearing on the screen.

02:45:32.000 See, already, it's watching you.

02:45:34.000 It's like Toyota says in a few years they're going to have an infrared camera, and if there's a pressure sensor in the seat and it's hot, it goes ahead and calls the police through the cell phone in your navigation system.

02:45:45.000 Sounds good, but see, then they just dial in and watch.

02:45:47.000 It's controlled.

02:45:49.000 I mean, folks, you want your cable box making parental controls and then, by the way, calling CPS if it sees a child in the room and you let them watch an R-rated movie?

02:45:59.000 And believe me, you will see that happen within three years.

02:46:03.000 This is already in place.

02:46:04.000 They're now just announcing it.

02:46:06.000 It's been in place for a decade.

02:46:08.000 With the microphones, five years with the cameras, it will happen.

02:46:14.000 Do you understand?

02:46:16.000 I can't believe I have to even say it's George Orwell to have cameras watching.

02:46:21.000 And it says it's going to watch you and make sure you're good.

02:46:22.000 And there's people right now going, good, I like that, that's freedom, that's freedom.

02:46:29.000 The idea is being that if you turn your cable box on, it recognizes you and pulls up shows already in your profile or makes recommendations.

02:46:35.000 If parents are watching TV with their children, for example, parental controls could appear to block certain content from appearing on the screen.

02:46:42.000 Conkle also said the type of monitoring is the holy grail because it could help serve up specially tailored ads.

02:46:49.000 See, what did I tell you years ago?

02:46:51.000 See, because I went and read the research papers on it.

02:46:56.000 And most people don't know why you live in Austin and you're on a Malaysian website or a Japanese website or a German website and it's popping up with Austin Singles ads.

02:47:11.000 It might even say, you know, you're a thirty-something year old male.

02:47:15.000 Look at this girl. 1.00

02:47:18.000 You're on a mainstream website and all of a sudden a woman's shaking her behind at you up on the top banner. 1.00

02:47:24.000 That's just the cookies, Jack!

02:47:26.000 This is light years worse.

02:47:29.000 I mean, remember, first hour, I covered the government takes all your baby's blood, now more mainstream news, and now it isn't just they keep it in a federal DNA database, now it goes to Homeland Security.

02:47:39.000 Your child, your daughter, your son, at birth, is in Homeland Security.

02:47:44.000 Do you understand?

02:47:48.000 Do you even care enough so when you're in the hospital and they bring the form and say, it's mandated, you need to, and push it on you to say no?

02:47:54.000 Perhaps I've seen enemy of the state too many times...

02:48:01.000 Perhaps I'm just naive about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move.

02:48:06.000 I can't trust Comcast with BitTorrent.

02:48:08.000 Yeah, they're already the ones censoring the web.

02:48:10.000 So why should I trust them with my must-be-kept-secret DVR-clogging addition to keeping up with the... It must be some pop thing.

02:48:22.000 It's Kardashians.

02:48:24.000 Conko also spoke on camera with me about fixing bad Compass user experiences, the ongoing BitTorrent battle with VOD, but he mostly towed the corporate line on these issues, the monitoring your living room came up after my camera was put away.

02:48:44.000 But you, you, well listen, we need to contact this writer, this is a big, big website, big TV review website, and say, hey, uh, would you like to go to Google's website?

02:48:52.000 They explain they're already watching you, Bubba.

02:48:55.000 I mean, I remember it was like almost three years ago.

02:48:58.000 We first broke.

02:48:59.000 And by broke, Google put a press release out and no one reported on it.

02:49:02.000 We found like a week-old press release where they said, we're already watching you, already listening to you, already tracking you.

02:49:07.000 Yahoo's doing it, but our system's better, and they're doing it, but our system's better.

02:49:10.000 That's how I learned of all the other companies was them bragging, oh, ours is much more.

02:49:14.000 It tracks everything you're doing.

02:49:18.000 Down to the facial expressions.

02:49:20.000 Is the ads Google is showing you or is it upsetting to you?

02:49:23.000 You didn't know while you're sitting there watching pornography, masturbating, and that camera's built into the screen that the government's tuned in with AI computers recording that and filing it?

02:49:32.000 Guaranteed going on with select subjects.

02:49:38.000 And I'm sorry to have to get graphic here with you. 0.93

02:49:40.000 This is our level of total patheticness. 0.97

02:49:44.000 But they're smart tyrants. 0.96

02:49:45.000 They're putting the grid in.

02:49:47.000 Now they're gearing up the camps and police and armed robots, which they had on the news yesterday again, and hovercrafts and poison water.

02:49:58.000 They had to brainwash the cops and the public incrementally to accept this.

02:50:01.000 Now it can begin.

02:50:04.000 One month the cops SWAT teaming and pulling a patriot out to go to a camp, but five years later you'll be dying of your accelerated cancer you were implanted with.

02:50:12.000 Everyone gets their eugenics shot. 0.87

02:50:16.000 That's right, your child's dying of leukemia.

02:50:18.000 You trust the government officer.

02:50:22.000 Alex is bad.

02:50:23.000 Alex doesn't like the cameras watching me without a warrant.

02:50:26.000 Just randomly, Alex is a radical. 0.99

02:50:29.000 Alex Jones is crazy! 0.72

02:50:33.000 He doesn't like newborn babies all being put in Homeland Security's illegal database. 0.85

02:50:39.000 He doesn't like the fact that the cable boxes have been listening for more than a decade and now watching. 0.98

02:50:45.000 He's crazy!

02:50:48.000 It is a big idea. 0.98

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02:57:36.000 Thanks.

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Alex Jones Show - March 20, 2008

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