Ali Dawah - January 10, 2017


ARE NASHEEDS REALLY HARAM？？ ALI DAWAH


Episode Stats

Length

18 minutes

Words per Minute

197.45117

Word Count

3,579

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

63


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the controversy surrounding the Nasheed video, and how we dealt with it, and what we have done to try and address it. We also discuss the role of the Kibar Ulama in the video and their role in the making of it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
00:00:01.720 Brothers and sisters and dear friends
00:00:02.780 Welcome to this controversial video
00:00:04.180 Which has been quite controversial
00:00:06.140 Not this video but the video we're going to talk about
00:00:08.300 Before we start we want to praise Allah
00:00:10.260 The most merciful, the most just
00:00:11.860 Or praise His glory and gratitude belong to Him
00:00:13.860 For the works that we do
00:00:15.020 Now obviously as you guys know we released a Nasheed video
00:00:17.800 And in this Nasheed video
00:00:19.480 A lot of people start getting a panic attack
00:00:21.680 Or should we call it a piety attack
00:00:23.040 Basically saying it's not permissible
00:00:26.120 You know it looks haram
00:00:28.080 You know you guys are imitating the kufar
00:00:30.340 With your hand movements
00:00:31.300 You know Omar Issa's voice is sound
00:00:34.520 He's trying to make his voice sound like a woman
00:00:36.760 That's imitating a woman
00:00:37.680 Which is backbiting
00:00:38.760 Because you don't even know if he's doing that
00:00:40.860 Just because his voice is a certain way
00:00:42.060 And all these kind of madness has been going on
00:00:45.040 Like you use music
00:00:46.020 Blah blah blah blah blah
00:00:47.340 So basically what we did
00:00:49.140 We said you know what let's look into this
00:00:50.380 Yeah let's look into this
00:00:51.320 Without being biased
00:00:52.540 Because we don't do Nasheed as a living
00:00:53.860 Yeah you know what I'm trying to say
00:00:55.280 Like you could say okay Omar Issa's going to be biased
00:00:57.380 But us
00:00:58.180 So we looked into the matter
00:00:59.980 And also to do the video
00:01:01.380 We paid out of our own pocket
00:01:02.300 So we're not gaining anything
00:01:03.260 So
00:01:04.160 Musa actually looked into the matter
00:01:05.860 In depth
00:01:06.380 Because I've been quite busy
00:01:07.200 He's been speaking to a brother in Medina
00:01:09.440 And he's been in contact with him
00:01:11.140 Not in Medina but yeah
00:01:12.360 He's in Riyadh
00:01:13.640 Yeah
00:01:14.020 Riyadh same thing
00:01:14.900 Did you just say Riyadh and Medina
00:01:18.000 The same thing
00:01:18.680 Yeah anyway
00:01:19.280 So basically
00:01:20.820 He's been in contact with them
00:01:22.520 To be honest
00:01:23.740 Before I go into a moral tantrum
00:01:24.960 Because I've got a lot
00:01:25.600 To get out of my chest
00:01:26.660 We're going to let Musa
00:01:28.240 Elaborate
00:01:29.480 On what he found out
00:01:30.440 Musa
00:01:30.660 What did you find out
00:01:31.280 Yeah so
00:01:31.940 Bismillah
00:01:32.600 Alhamdulillah
00:01:33.160 Salatu wassalam
00:01:34.060 A'la Rasulullah
00:01:34.860 Sallallahu alayhi wasallam
00:01:36.040 Firstly
00:01:38.060 You know the reason for us
00:01:40.600 Doing the video
00:01:41.500 I want to structure the video
00:01:43.300 A little bit
00:01:43.840 Firstly
00:01:44.700 I want to say why we chose
00:01:46.940 To do the video
00:01:47.640 As Ali mentioned
00:01:49.160 We have no benefit
00:01:52.460 In terms of income
00:01:53.520 From this
00:01:53.940 Actually
00:01:54.360 It really put a hole in my pocket
00:01:56.040 A little bit
00:01:56.940 But
00:01:58.080 We actually paid out of our pockets
00:02:00.760 To do it
00:02:01.320 And
00:02:02.360 Omar Issa
00:02:03.260 Actually paid
00:02:04.160 Hundreds of pounds
00:02:05.800 Hundreds of pounds
00:02:07.020 Nearly to a thousand pounds
00:02:08.240 In total
00:02:09.520 To actually get the production
00:02:10.880 Of this video
00:02:11.720 It might have even been
00:02:12.780 Over a thousand pounds
00:02:13.840 So a lot of brothers
00:02:14.900 Seem to think that
00:02:15.780 We're getting some sort of
00:02:16.620 Benefit from this
00:02:17.440 We're not
00:02:18.420 Frankly
00:02:18.860 We are not
00:02:19.340 Nasheed artists
00:02:20.040 Me and Ali
00:02:20.640 We make videos on YouTube
00:02:22.460 To try and benefit the youth
00:02:23.640 So this is not our field
00:02:25.180 But Omar came to us
00:02:26.620 And said
00:02:27.140 Brothers
00:02:27.460 There's an issue at hand
00:02:28.540 I want you guys
00:02:29.660 To help me address it
00:02:30.520 Because you're very outspoken
00:02:31.640 In these things
00:02:32.380 And we were like
00:02:33.280 You know what
00:02:34.300 It does seem like
00:02:35.500 There's an issue
00:02:36.040 And we should address it
00:02:37.060 Inshallah
00:02:37.440 So that's why
00:02:39.060 We done the Nasheed
00:02:39.760 You agree that
00:02:40.600 That's the reason
00:02:41.080 We done it right
00:02:41.680 Yeah
00:02:41.980 So now
00:02:43.220 After we done the Nasheed
00:02:45.440 As Brother Ali mentioned
00:02:46.520 We had a lot of brothers
00:02:47.900 Showing their concern
00:02:49.160 Was there music
00:02:49.980 Used in the Nasheed
00:02:50.880 Firstly I'd like to clarify
00:02:52.460 That there was no
00:02:53.320 Musical instruments
00:02:54.380 Used in the making
00:02:55.700 Of that Nasheed
00:02:56.520 A few other issues
00:02:57.460 Started coming up
00:02:58.280 As well
00:02:58.660 Amongst other brothers
00:02:59.900 Saying that
00:03:00.460 Nasheeds are impermissible
00:03:01.800 You can't do Nasheeds
00:03:03.480 Whether it's got music
00:03:04.560 In it or not
00:03:05.360 A lot of brothers
00:03:06.060 Started saying
00:03:06.680 That we are
00:03:07.320 Imitating the Kuffar
00:03:08.600 And we are doing
00:03:10.300 You know
00:03:10.920 A lot of wrong things
00:03:12.680 And the Nasheed
00:03:13.420 In the first place
00:03:14.060 Is haram
00:03:14.700 La dee da dee da
00:03:15.740 There was a lot of
00:03:16.380 Reasoning given
00:03:17.320 So you know what
00:03:18.440 I know a brother
00:03:19.780 Personally
00:03:20.680 So does Ali
00:03:22.220 Who's studying
00:03:23.220 In Imam Saud
00:03:24.600 University
00:03:25.220 In Riyadh
00:03:26.060 He's a very close
00:03:27.360 Brother of mine
00:03:27.960 I speak to him
00:03:28.600 Nearly every single day
00:03:29.760 He's really really close
00:03:31.340 I'm considering
00:03:31.900 One of my best friends now
00:03:33.100 And I spoke to him
00:03:36.040 And he has access
00:03:37.000 To some of the
00:03:37.740 Kibar Ulama
00:03:38.580 Over there in Saudi Arabia
00:03:40.040 And the Kibar Ulama
00:03:40.980 For anyone that doesn't know
00:03:42.120 Who they are
00:03:42.660 What does Kibar Ulama mean?
00:03:44.040 Maybe there's people
00:03:44.480 That don't know
00:03:44.700 I'm about to clarify
00:03:45.960 Sorry
00:03:46.400 So the Kibar Ulama
00:03:48.840 Are actually
00:03:49.680 A select few
00:03:52.040 Around
00:03:52.760 30
00:03:53.620 40 Ulama
00:03:54.540 That are
00:03:55.740 Very very big
00:03:56.760 So they are scholars
00:03:57.480 That have been around
00:03:58.280 In Saudi Arabia
00:03:58.980 For some time
00:03:59.760 They've studied
00:04:00.680 Extensively
00:04:01.620 And they are actually
00:04:02.640 Picked
00:04:03.220 Handpicked
00:04:04.560 To actually serve
00:04:05.500 In the council
00:04:06.020 Of judiciary scholars
00:04:07.060 Currently I think
00:04:08.700 If I'm not mistaken
00:04:09.420 There's 21 of them
00:04:10.560 So he has access
00:04:11.640 To people like that
00:04:12.540 So I said to him
00:04:13.320 Bro
00:04:13.560 Here's the video
00:04:14.620 Please find out for us
00:04:15.940 Is it halal?
00:04:16.960 Is it haram?
00:04:17.600 What's wrong with it?
00:04:18.540 If it was haram
00:04:19.360 Me and Ali
00:04:20.480 And Omar
00:04:21.420 We're fully willing
00:04:22.560 To take it down
00:04:23.340 And never do any of this again
00:04:24.720 So
00:04:25.960 You know
00:04:26.720 Because we don't have
00:04:27.340 Benefit in this
00:04:28.040 So
00:04:28.940 The brother done his research
00:04:31.220 And he came back to me
00:04:32.520 But hold on a second
00:04:33.700 When you say
00:04:34.400 He done his research
00:04:35.320 Now there might be
00:04:36.340 People out there
00:04:36.780 Saying you know what
00:04:37.300 You just went
00:04:37.840 And told him
00:04:38.980 How you wanted to tell him
00:04:39.880 What this about
00:04:40.540 Did we go and just
00:04:42.880 Tell him
00:04:43.260 Or did he hear it?
00:04:44.740 So basically
00:04:45.320 What I told him to do
00:04:46.340 Is I told him
00:04:47.360 To explain the content
00:04:48.540 Of the Nasheed
00:04:49.680 To the scholars
00:04:50.400 That he asks
00:04:51.080 I asked him to ask
00:04:52.520 About the permissibility
00:04:53.560 Of a Nasheed
00:04:54.320 In the first place
00:04:55.160 And I also asked him
00:04:56.900 To ask about
00:04:58.280 The sound of the Nasheed
00:05:00.080 Does it sound like music?
00:05:01.460 Did they hear it?
00:05:02.460 Yes they heard it
00:05:03.440 These scholars heard it?
00:05:04.500 These scholars heard it
00:05:05.640 So the scholars
00:05:06.580 That I'm about to mention to you
00:05:07.660 Not that they heard about it
00:05:08.400 They heard it
00:05:08.940 They heard the Nasheed
00:05:09.800 It was played to them
00:05:10.540 And they actually
00:05:11.540 Called other people
00:05:12.300 Okay come and listen to this
00:05:13.700 What do you think of this?
00:05:14.400 So they actually
00:05:15.280 Even asked other people's
00:05:16.320 Opinions who were there
00:05:17.200 Now
00:05:18.220 Firstly
00:05:19.380 I want to put a statement
00:05:22.280 Of Shaykh bin Baaz
00:05:23.180 Out there
00:05:23.580 Shaykh bin Baaz
00:05:25.080 This is the translation
00:05:26.140 He said
00:05:27.280 Islamic Nasheeds differ
00:05:28.620 If these Nasheeds are good
00:05:30.720 And there's nothing in them
00:05:32.200 Except calling towards goodness
00:05:33.780 And reminding people of goodness
00:05:35.680 And also to the obedience
00:05:37.360 Of Allah
00:05:37.880 And the messenger
00:05:39.600 Then there's no problem with this
00:05:42.780 But if it calls towards sins
00:05:44.620 And free mixing
00:05:45.440 Between men and women
00:05:46.580 Or it calls towards any corruption
00:05:48.740 Then this is not permissible
00:05:50.480 Islamic Nasheeds
00:05:51.980 Such as poetry
00:05:53.080 If it's okay
00:05:54.140 Then it's okay
00:05:54.840 If it contains munkar
00:05:56.100 Then it is munkar
00:05:57.640 So basically
00:05:58.560 What Shaykh bin Baaz
00:05:59.480 Is saying
00:05:59.880 Is that
00:06:00.820 If there is a Nasheed
00:06:01.780 That's calling towards goodness
00:06:02.900 Calling towards worshipping
00:06:04.480 Allah alone
00:06:05.240 Calling towards worshipping
00:06:06.600 Allah in His oneness
00:06:07.540 Then that is fine
00:06:08.640 If it is calling towards goodness
00:06:10.520 It's fine
00:06:11.040 If it's calling towards bad
00:06:12.300 And free mixing
00:06:13.000 Then it's not good
00:06:14.420 So but the question here is
00:06:16.200 Does that mean
00:06:17.440 You're doing Dawah
00:06:19.420 From Nasheed
00:06:19.880 Isn't that Bidah
00:06:20.440 Well technically
00:06:22.240 It can be classed as Dawah
00:06:24.940 And the reason
00:06:26.360 That it is not classed as Bidah
00:06:28.560 And the reason why
00:06:29.680 Shaykh bin Baaz
00:06:30.300 Did not mention it as Bidah
00:06:31.560 Is because
00:06:32.640 It's very very clear
00:06:34.080 That even at the time
00:06:35.580 Of the Prophet
00:06:36.080 Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:06:37.080 Hassan bin Thabit
00:06:39.660 Was a poet
00:06:41.060 And the Prophet
00:06:42.260 Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:06:43.280 Allowed him
00:06:44.200 To do this poetry
00:06:45.200 Like
00:06:45.920 You know this is poetry
00:06:55.720 Describing the Prophet
00:06:56.700 Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:06:57.560 So can we say that's Dawah
00:06:58.520 Of course that's Dawah
00:07:00.200 Of course
00:07:00.540 If I was a non-Muslim
00:07:01.540 And I heard someone
00:07:02.760 Doing nice poetry
00:07:03.740 About someone
00:07:04.380 That's attractive
00:07:05.420 What is Dawah
00:07:06.240 Dawah is calling to Islam
00:07:07.820 Dawah is calling towards
00:07:09.100 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
00:07:10.140 Calling towards the messenger
00:07:11.460 Of the Prophet Muhammad
00:07:12.420 Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:07:13.340 So if he's calling towards
00:07:15.120 The Prophet
00:07:15.440 Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
00:07:16.080 And he's saying
00:07:16.620 Attractive words about him
00:07:17.740 What is that technically
00:07:19.540 So I feel like
00:07:21.240 A lot of brothers
00:07:21.740 Get into the issue of
00:07:22.700 Was it Dawah
00:07:23.340 Was it not Dawah
00:07:24.200 I feel like that's a
00:07:25.620 That's a whole
00:07:26.320 You need to define
00:07:27.080 What is Dawah
00:07:27.640 Yes
00:07:28.040 In the first place
00:07:28.900 What do you define as Dawah
00:07:30.620 Do you get what I'm trying to say
00:07:31.300 Because you have Mishari
00:07:32.900 Who says
00:07:33.320 Ar-Rahman
00:07:34.340 Ar-Rahman
00:07:34.780 You're talking about Allah
00:07:35.820 Tawheed
00:07:36.400 But even though we do know
00:07:50.500 Is there a difference
00:07:51.100 Opinion on this matter
00:07:51.780 There is
00:07:52.800 And we'll go into that
00:07:54.040 Okay
00:07:54.340 Now
00:07:54.760 To further go on
00:07:56.980 In Saudi Arabia
00:07:58.000 In certain masajid
00:07:59.140 The shayyukh
00:08:00.200 They have their offices
00:08:01.060 In certain masajid
00:08:02.420 So there's one sheikh
00:08:04.800 Who was in the council
00:08:06.940 Of judiciary scholars
00:08:08.080 He's one of the
00:08:09.080 Kibar ulama
00:08:09.840 In Saudi Arabia
00:08:10.480 He's very very big
00:08:11.580 He's very very known
00:08:12.780 Amongst the students of knowledge
00:08:13.960 And shayyukh
00:08:14.980 In this country
00:08:15.780 In Saudi Arabia
00:08:16.560 He's very big
00:08:17.160 His name is
00:08:18.120 Sheikh Sa'ad
00:08:18.760 Ibn Turki
00:08:19.360 Al-Khathlan
00:08:19.960 The nasheed was played
00:08:21.960 To him directly
00:08:22.760 So the nasheed was played
00:08:23.800 To Sheikh Sa'ad
00:08:24.480 Ibn Turki
00:08:24.980 Al-Khathlan
00:08:25.580 As I mentioned
00:08:26.200 He's a very very big scholar
00:08:27.240 In Saudi Arabia
00:08:27.940 And the funny thing is
00:08:29.980 While he was actually
00:08:30.700 Playing it
00:08:31.280 He called the imam
00:08:33.060 Of the masjid he was in
00:08:34.100 He called other people
00:08:35.060 Come come listen to this
00:08:36.220 So they were all
00:08:37.560 Listening to it
00:08:38.220 And after it was played
00:08:39.660 He said
00:08:41.100 He said
00:08:42.020 There's no music in this
00:08:43.220 And he also said
00:08:45.040 That there's nothing wrong with it
00:08:46.280 He said
00:08:46.780 Alhamdulillah
00:08:47.220 There's nothing wrong with this nasheed
00:08:48.520 And he gave us advice
00:08:50.860 That the brothers
00:08:51.580 You know
00:08:52.580 You need to be careful
00:08:53.900 What you do put in the nasheed
00:08:55.140 Because you know
00:08:56.180 Certain people might speak bad about you
00:08:57.860 So he was like
00:08:59.080 But Alhamdulillah
00:08:59.680 The nasheed
00:09:00.120 There's nothing wrong with it
00:09:01.160 So that's Sheikh Sa'ad
00:09:02.180 Ibn Turki
00:09:02.620 Al-Khathlan
00:09:03.120 Now there's another sheikh
00:09:04.500 Who is in the council
00:09:05.400 Of Jidrushri's college
00:09:06.280 Sheikh Abdullah Rukban
00:09:07.440 He's or was
00:09:08.540 No he is
00:09:09.540 He is
00:09:09.920 As far as I know
00:09:10.660 He is
00:09:11.120 Wallahu alim
00:09:12.520 He actually mentioned
00:09:15.180 That nasheeds
00:09:16.320 In general
00:09:17.680 They are permissible
00:09:18.620 Nasheeds are permissible
00:09:19.700 To do
00:09:20.180 And
00:09:21.720 Yeah that's what he mentioned
00:09:23.420 There's another sheikh as well
00:09:24.820 Who is very very
00:09:25.700 Very popular
00:09:26.760 Sheikh Sa'ad
00:09:27.960 Ashitri
00:09:28.840 Sheikh Sa'ad
00:09:29.420 Al-Nasir Ashitri
00:09:30.260 He is in the council
00:09:32.720 Of judiciary scholars as well
00:09:33.880 So he's one of the
00:09:34.560 Kibar ulama as well
00:09:35.540 And he actually mentioned
00:09:37.320 That nasheeds are permissible
00:09:38.600 But there's a few conditions
00:09:40.020 To them
00:09:40.440 The conditions should be
00:09:41.840 That there's no
00:09:42.360 Kufr and shirk in them
00:09:43.480 That there's no swearing in them
00:09:45.800 That the nasheed
00:09:47.080 Has no bid'ah
00:09:48.920 You know
00:09:49.640 There's no music in it
00:09:51.260 And that the nasheed
00:09:53.160 Is not called an
00:09:54.120 Islamic nasheed
00:09:55.080 And the reason he said that
00:09:56.540 Is because a lot of people say
00:09:58.060 That if you call something
00:09:59.260 An Islamic nasheed
00:10:00.140 Then you're inventing
00:10:01.120 Something new in Islam
00:10:02.100 So brothers and sisters
00:10:03.720 In a nutshell
00:10:04.660 I don't want this to get too long
00:10:06.600 This is the opinion
00:10:08.420 That we follow
00:10:09.060 This is the opinion
00:10:09.980 That we feel
00:10:11.880 Right to follow
00:10:13.560 Because we've looked
00:10:14.700 Into the evidences
00:10:15.480 I looked into the evidences
00:10:16.760 And for me
00:10:17.480 I'm convinced at this
00:10:18.800 Because the fact of the matter is
00:10:20.500 We live in an age
00:10:21.360 In a society
00:10:21.980 Where there's a lot of brothers
00:10:23.820 Subhanallah
00:10:24.820 Using music
00:10:25.740 Doing a lot of haram things
00:10:27.240 In their videos
00:10:27.780 Dancing and what not
00:10:28.940 And us as brothers
00:10:30.880 We feel that it's right
00:10:32.700 To support people
00:10:33.600 Like Omar Isa
00:10:34.320 Who are doing
00:10:35.260 The halal option
00:10:36.200 Where they're not using music
00:10:37.180 They're not putting bid'ah
00:10:38.100 They're not putting
00:10:38.600 Kufr and shirk
00:10:39.300 And the nasheeds
00:10:39.840 And they're using an alternative
00:10:41.600 For the youth to listen to
00:10:43.320 Now
00:10:44.020 It's easy to use music
00:10:46.180 What makes
00:10:47.020 Brother Omar Isa
00:10:47.500 The difference is that
00:10:48.180 He abstains from that
00:10:49.320 And brings a halal alternative
00:10:50.580 And we should support
00:10:51.940 The brother in what he does
00:10:53.080 Yes exactly
00:10:53.860 Now that's our opinion
00:10:55.500 That we follow
00:10:56.160 The reason that I'm mentioning
00:10:57.780 This is our opinion
00:10:58.720 Is that we have a lot of
00:10:59.780 Excited brothers out there
00:11:01.120 That
00:11:01.860 I love the word haram
00:11:03.200 And brothers
00:11:03.720 Please
00:11:04.200 Pay heed to what I'm about to say
00:11:06.800 Inshallah
00:11:07.160 You're very excited
00:11:09.100 To say that
00:11:09.860 Things are haram
00:11:10.780 Or things are
00:11:11.500 No this is haram
00:11:12.720 And you monopolize the religion
00:11:14.080 And you say
00:11:14.660 My opinion
00:11:15.560 Is the opinion
00:11:16.580 My way
00:11:16.980 And there is no other scholar
00:11:18.660 That says otherwise
00:11:19.640 You see
00:11:20.440 What you have to understand is
00:11:21.600 When you see a Hanafi brother
00:11:23.160 Praying
00:11:24.240 With his hands
00:11:25.540 Below his chest
00:11:26.680 You can't go up to him
00:11:28.100 And say
00:11:28.340 Ah look at you
00:11:29.280 You stupid idiot
00:11:30.140 You can't do that
00:11:31.180 Because he's got a valid opinion
00:11:32.820 Behind him
00:11:33.420 Imam Buhu Hanifa
00:11:34.560 Was a great Imam
00:11:35.540 So you have to understand this
00:11:37.060 In the same way
00:11:38.040 We are not like certain people
00:11:39.620 That are taking one opinion
00:11:40.780 From some random shirk
00:11:41.900 In Egypt
00:11:42.340 Sitting there in some hut
00:11:43.760 Saying
00:11:44.180 Pre-mixing
00:11:46.340 Halal
00:11:46.620 Music is halal
00:11:47.940 We're not doing that
00:11:49.040 We have gone to
00:11:50.120 Kibar Ulama
00:11:51.140 Brothers and sisters
00:11:52.020 Now this is the opinion
00:11:53.300 We choose to follow
00:11:54.040 And it's a valid opinion
00:11:55.180 It is a valid opinion
00:11:56.660 Now there are
00:11:57.860 There is another opinion out there
00:11:59.580 That because the Sufis do Nashids
00:12:01.300 You should avoid them
00:12:02.460 And certain scholars
00:12:03.680 Have even said that
00:12:04.360 They are haram
00:12:05.040 In their opinion
00:12:06.000 Scholars like
00:12:06.800 Sheikh Salih Al-Fawzan
00:12:07.760 So
00:12:08.360 He's also in the
00:12:09.640 Council of Judiciary Scholars
00:12:10.800 Now his reasoning for it
00:12:12.300 Is that
00:12:13.020 The Sufis do it
00:12:13.940 And he believes
00:12:15.600 That it's wrong
00:12:16.080 For that reason
00:12:16.700 He believes that
00:12:17.500 He believes that
00:12:18.360 It's something people
00:12:19.000 Should avoid
00:12:19.560 And that's his opinion
00:12:20.860 Brothers and sisters
00:12:21.600 I respect and love
00:12:22.980 Sheikh Salih Al-Fawzan
00:12:23.820 For that
00:12:24.220 And I'm not saying
00:12:26.120 That he's jahil
00:12:26.880 Allah forbid
00:12:27.800 Astaghfirullah
00:12:28.580 I'm not saying
00:12:29.280 That he's someone
00:12:29.740 You shouldn't take knowledge from
00:12:30.440 Take knowledge from him
00:12:31.300 He knows more than me
00:12:32.160 But there's also
00:12:32.980 Other scholars that have said
00:12:33.900 Otherwise as I've provided to you
00:12:35.340 And big scholars
00:12:36.300 So
00:12:36.880 This is what I'm saying
00:12:38.160 This is our opinion
00:12:38.960 What we're saying is
00:12:39.940 We've got justification
00:12:40.680 Have respect
00:12:41.440 You know
00:12:42.220 Because I'm sorry
00:12:42.780 But I've been like kind of bullied
00:12:44.080 By one brother
00:12:45.640 You know
00:12:46.160 Cyberly
00:12:48.100 Cyber
00:12:48.720 The cyber attack
00:12:49.720 Online
00:12:50.460 You know
00:12:50.760 You know
00:12:51.420 The brother just
00:12:52.060 He doesn't understand
00:12:53.080 And this is the issue
00:12:53.820 Narrow mindedness
00:12:54.820 It's just like
00:12:55.980 No
00:12:56.280 This is how it is
00:12:57.240 Blah blah blah
00:12:57.860 You know
00:12:58.440 No reason
00:12:59.140 No nothing
00:12:59.800 Just because you have an opinion
00:13:01.780 I don't have to follow it
00:13:04.340 I don't
00:13:05.540 You can't come
00:13:06.680 I can't come to you and say
00:13:07.660 Why do you think it's haram?
00:13:09.460 Why do you think it's haram?
00:13:10.100 You think it's haram?
00:13:11.000 You have to say it's haram
00:13:12.100 It's oppression
00:13:13.080 It's like
00:13:13.880 Ignorance
00:13:14.600 You know what
00:13:15.000 It's like us coming and saying
00:13:16.460 Shut up
00:13:17.540 It's haram
00:13:18.800 Okay
00:13:19.340 It's haram
00:13:19.900 That's it
00:13:20.360 It's haram
00:13:20.860 We're not even saying that
00:13:22.140 Brothers and sisters
00:13:23.720 Allah tells us in the Quran
00:13:25.840 That he has made us what?
00:13:27.700 Ummatun wasata
00:13:28.640 The balanced nation
00:13:30.700 The balanced nation
00:13:32.360 We are supposed to be a balanced people
00:13:33.880 No people that are extreme
00:13:35.360 Okay
00:13:35.760 No people that go extreme to one side or the other side
00:13:38.280 So brothers and sisters be balanced
00:13:39.800 You have your opinion?
00:13:40.980 Khalas
00:13:41.240 We have ours
00:13:41.840 Khalas
00:13:42.280 That's it
00:13:42.960 No that's what it is
00:13:44.100 And it's sad
00:13:45.300 That there's brothers out there
00:13:47.320 That are genuinely trying to make it haram
00:13:50.020 Like we're saying
00:13:50.940 This scholar
00:13:51.420 That scholar
00:13:51.820 But was it explained properly to the scholar
00:13:54.340 This that
00:13:54.720 I'm sorry it's not fair
00:13:55.940 It has been clearly explained
00:13:57.380 Not only clearly explained
00:13:58.240 Let's listen to it
00:13:59.000 Let's listen to it
00:14:00.460 Yeah
00:14:00.880 So this is
00:14:01.860 Some people are so extreme
00:14:03.100 I bet you
00:14:04.060 After they watch this video
00:14:05.100 I will not be surprised
00:14:06.100 If they come and say
00:14:06.640 Oh those scholars are misguided
00:14:07.620 I will not be surprised
00:14:09.480 Because sometimes you need to understand
00:14:11.260 Are you worshipping Allah
00:14:12.480 Or are you worshipping your ego?
00:14:14.160 Seriously
00:14:14.520 Just because of that
00:14:16.200 I believe what brother Omar is doing is good
00:14:18.680 There's a lot of people out there
00:14:20.140 Who I've worked with even as well
00:14:21.900 You know
00:14:22.360 And now I don't
00:14:23.220 They've gone down the road using music
00:14:25.000 You know
00:14:25.400 And it's sad
00:14:26.640 You know
00:14:27.140 And can I ask you a question
00:14:28.120 Every single brother
00:14:29.760 That we have asked
00:14:31.360 Or that has said to us
00:14:32.460 Haram, haram
00:14:33.360 This is haram
00:14:33.960 Yeah
00:14:34.140 Do they have a struggle with music?
00:14:36.560 No
00:14:36.860 By the looks of it
00:14:38.060 Do they struggle with music?
00:14:39.000 No
00:14:39.140 Mashallah
00:14:39.680 Are they practising brothers?
00:14:40.880 Yes
00:14:41.080 Mashallah
00:14:41.520 Are they on point?
00:14:42.520 Yes
00:14:42.780 Mashallah
00:14:43.140 Very on point
00:14:43.760 From what we can see
00:14:44.720 Yeah
00:14:44.920 From what we can see
00:14:45.780 Yes mashallah
00:14:46.400 Guys
00:14:46.800 It's not for you
00:14:47.820 I'm not surprised you're saying it's haram
00:14:49.460 Exactly
00:14:49.860 It may not benefit you
00:14:51.820 But bro
00:14:52.340 This might be benefiting some sister out there man
00:14:54.520 Or some brother
00:14:55.420 I'm sorry
00:14:55.840 Most of these brothers and sisters
00:14:57.600 They're in their bubble
00:14:58.940 Yeah
00:14:59.480 I'm sorry
00:15:00.360 I have to be real
00:15:01.060 You're in your bubble
00:15:02.280 Yeah
00:15:02.580 Your bubble is
00:15:03.460 You are
00:15:04.180 You have no
00:15:05.220 You don't know what's going on
00:15:07.040 You have no idea
00:15:09.140 What on earth is going on
00:15:11.200 They are in their own bubble
00:15:12.460 When you're in your own bubble
00:15:13.700 Look in my country
00:15:14.540 Well they say
00:15:15.620 A person with a full stomach
00:15:17.140 Will never understand the person that's hungry
00:15:18.400 Yeah
00:15:18.640 It's true
00:15:18.920 Now this doesn't mean you make
00:15:20.320 Just because
00:15:21.140 Oh you don't understand them
00:15:22.480 You make it permissible for
00:15:23.460 No one's saying
00:15:24.060 Hey you don't understand how hard is zina
00:15:25.740 Make zina halal
00:15:26.400 Nobody's saying that
00:15:27.440 We're saying you have no idea
00:15:29.360 Music is the biggest fitna out there
00:15:31.400 And if there's a halal alternative
00:15:32.940 We will support the brothers
00:15:34.460 Yeah
00:15:34.680 The brothers that don't use music
00:15:36.560 We will support them
00:15:38.080 And there's opinion behind it
00:15:39.400 It's not like we're coming and saying
00:15:40.060 We're going to support it
00:15:40.760 Just because people are doing music
00:15:42.100 No
00:15:42.280 There's a valid reason behind it
00:15:43.660 We're just asking for you guys to respect it
00:15:45.800 And we've brought evidence
00:15:47.000 If after this
00:15:48.180 You carry on
00:15:49.340 I'm sorry but from what I can judge
00:15:51.640 You have an ego issue
00:15:53.060 No
00:15:53.380 If you carry on
00:15:54.320 I'm telling you straight to your face right now
00:15:56.060 Any brother out there
00:15:57.180 Whether I know you
00:15:58.120 I don't know you
00:15:58.720 I'm ignoring you
00:15:59.520 Yeah
00:15:59.760 I'm ignoring you
00:16:00.680 Because who the hell are you
00:16:01.980 Yeah
00:16:02.280 I'm very sorry
00:16:02.980 Forgive me for my crudeness
00:16:04.580 Forgive me if this is rude
00:16:05.940 What credentials do you have
00:16:06.540 No no no
00:16:06.900 Who are you
00:16:07.640 Yeah
00:16:08.280 I have Sheikh Saad
00:16:09.540 Ibn Turkiya Al-Khaslan
00:16:11.480 I have Sheikh Abdullah Rukban
00:16:13.040 Sheikh Saad al-Shitri
00:16:14.260 Statements from Sheikh Bin Baz
00:16:15.820 Multiple statements
00:16:17.620 And I can see
00:16:19.080 I get messages
00:16:20.740 I can see
00:16:21.960 That there's a fitna out there
00:16:23.280 And I can see people benefiting
00:16:24.720 From the brother Umar Isastap
00:16:26.420 Who are you
00:16:27.460 To come and tell me
00:16:28.540 No this is haram
00:16:29.520 Because you feel it's haram
00:16:31.200 And you know some of these brothers
00:16:32.280 Subhanallah yeah
00:16:33.100 They need to be very careful
00:16:34.720 Because their brothers
00:16:35.740 Who subhanallah come out
00:16:37.340 And say something is haram
00:16:38.300 They literally give a fatwa
00:16:39.680 Yeah yeah yeah
00:16:40.300 Do you know what a fatwa is
00:16:41.200 A fatwa is an Islamic ruling
00:16:42.720 You're making what Allah has made
00:16:43.920 Halal haram
00:16:44.580 It's like me sitting here
00:16:45.700 In front of you brothers and sisters
00:16:46.760 This is halal
00:16:48.080 I have no qualification
00:16:50.360 Whatsoever
00:16:51.440 To tell you this is halal
00:16:52.860 That's why I'm giving you evidence
00:16:54.460 Yes
00:16:54.780 These same brothers
00:16:55.740 It's haram bro
00:16:56.820 It's haram
00:16:57.860 Yeah
00:16:58.040 And if these scholars came and said
00:16:59.340 It's haram
00:16:59.840 We would put our hands up
00:17:01.320 We would put our hands up
00:17:02.000 Yeah
00:17:02.140 But are you brothers ready
00:17:03.340 To do the same and say
00:17:04.040 No okay
00:17:04.440 They said okay we accept
00:17:05.480 There you go
00:17:06.300 Anyway let's not long it out
00:17:06.660 We accept you have a reason
00:17:07.780 Let's not long it out
00:17:08.680 We respect your opinion
00:17:09.680 Respect our opinion
00:17:10.420 We will carry on doing what we're doing
00:17:11.700 You can do back flips
00:17:12.680 Yeah you can do front flips
00:17:13.880 Do somersaults if you like
00:17:14.980 Yeah
00:17:15.460 We will
00:17:16.160 We've got evidence behind it
00:17:17.180 We will carry on supporting brother
00:17:18.340 Omar Issa
00:17:19.120 And we would
00:17:20.820 Inshallah
00:17:21.540 Be maybe
00:17:22.560 Next on the sheet
00:17:23.580 You never know
00:17:23.980 No joking
00:17:24.360 No joking
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00:17:38.680 I need to go goodbye
00:17:39.480 Thank you
00:17:39.840 Alright
00:17:40.060 Salam
00:17:40.640 Thank you
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