Ali Dawah - November 10, 2019


OFFICER RACIALLY I.D's MUSLIM - SPEAKERS CORNER


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In this episode, we talk about identity politics, identity issues, identity politics and identity politics in general. In this episode we have a discussion about identity and identity issues in relation to the Kurdish people and their identity issues.

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00:00:00.000 What is this? What kind of haircut is this?
00:00:09.520 SubhanAllah
00:00:10.020 Okay, Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
00:00:12.760 Brothers and sisters and dear friends
00:00:13.900 Welcome to Salaam Korna 0.77
00:00:15.640 And I welcome you to Salaam Korna as well
00:00:17.300 So, Salaam Korna, Salaam means peace
00:00:19.840 Okay, Salaam Korna
00:00:21.580 Peace Korna
00:00:22.100 Okay
00:00:22.660 So we're trying to get rid of the ego
00:00:25.180 The arguments
00:00:26.640 The unnecessary confrontations
00:00:28.780 All that kind of stuff
00:00:29.580 And we just want to have nice civilised discussions
00:00:31.460 Fruitful discussions that we can learn from one another
00:00:33.380 Yes
00:00:33.760 So, if I'm not mistaken
00:00:35.580 Is there another person that looks like you that comes here?
00:00:38.680 He has the things on the floor
00:00:39.860 Or is that you?
00:00:41.620 Originally, I came here
00:00:43.720 And I had this kind of information
00:00:46.280 Yes, it's you
00:00:46.920 Yeah, on the floor
00:00:48.080 Yes
00:00:48.520 And then as time has progressed over the years
00:00:51.940 I then I've brought chairs and so on
00:00:54.660 They can sit down and talk
00:00:55.560 Basically the same thing that you're doing here
00:00:57.500 Okay, what's your name?
00:00:58.200 I'm Mr. IC3
00:01:00.080 The reason I'm Mr. IC3
00:01:01.880 Because IC3 represents black 1.00
00:01:04.120 Okay
00:01:04.660 Yeah
00:01:05.200 And under the British system
00:01:07.260 The British state
00:01:08.380 Yeah
00:01:08.680 Okay
00:01:08.920 What about me?
00:01:10.540 Where do I
00:01:10.860 I want to be something as well
00:01:12.280 Well, you are something
00:01:14.720 Whether you know or not
00:01:15.800 So, whether you're Muslim or
00:01:18.160 I think I'm more IC7
00:01:19.200 I'm not
00:01:19.500 No, no
00:01:19.800 Your official classification is IC6
00:01:23.060 Okay
00:01:23.880 So that covers Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, mixed race
00:01:29.700 I'm Kurdish from Turkey
00:01:30.980 Oh, Kurdish? 1.00
00:01:32.020 From Turkey, yeah
00:01:32.660 Right
00:01:33.200 Oh, I'm special
00:01:34.120 I've got a special
00:01:34.700 Oh, yeah
00:01:35.180 Am I ICCC?
00:01:36.640 Let me give you some information about
00:01:39.060 Okay
00:01:39.220 Wow, very interesting
00:01:41.640 So, officially
00:01:43.220 Yes
00:01:43.960 You said you're Kurdish from Turkey
00:01:46.780 Yes
00:01:47.060 So, look 0.76
00:01:47.900 Kurdish people are O-K-R-D 1.00
00:01:51.940 Kurdish
00:01:52.560 Yes
00:01:52.940 And they are put
00:01:54.120 Classified with the Arabs and the mixed race 0.99
00:01:58.380 Yes
00:01:58.720 But what's interesting here
00:02:00.420 Is that
00:02:01.880 Turkish people
00:02:04.600 Look
00:02:04.880 There's three types of Turkish
00:02:07.340 So, the British state
00:02:09.340 Recognizes Turkish people as white 0.99
00:02:13.640 And Kurdish people as Muslim or Arab
00:02:17.920 So, I don't know what
00:02:19.340 Could you tell me why you think
00:02:21.000 The British would separate the Turkish from the 1.00
00:02:26.120 That's quite interesting
00:02:27.640 From the Kurdish 0.97
00:02:28.580 I have some ideas
00:02:30.820 Do you think they are
00:02:31.780 But I don't know
00:02:32.620 Do you think some part of Turkey
00:02:33.740 To the European side
00:02:35.140 Or maybe that they come from the Roman
00:02:36.760 The Byzantine
00:02:37.540 Is there some kind of history there?
00:02:39.400 There's definitely some history
00:02:41.000 Definitely history that I don't know
00:02:43.260 And it's very hard
00:02:44.420 To get that
00:02:45.140 Extract that information
00:02:46.200 From the British state
00:02:47.800 Because you've got to do
00:02:48.660 A freedom of information request
00:02:51.100 And when you do a freedom of information request
00:02:53.620 You've got to know how to ask
00:02:55.480 The right question
00:02:56.640 Otherwise they'll say
00:02:58.020 That we don't know what you're talking about
00:02:59.240 Okay, alright
00:02:59.900 Right, so
00:03:00.360 What you assume
00:03:01.880 I would agree with you
00:03:03.700 That this goes way back in history
00:03:06.180 I suspect
00:03:07.240 By speaking to many
00:03:08.520 Turkish and Kurdish people
00:03:10.480 Over the years
00:03:11.560 It appears that
00:03:13.040 The Kurdish people
00:03:14.500 Have something to do with Saladin
00:03:16.000 Saladin al-Ayubi, yes
00:03:17.540 Yeah, and Saladin 0.94
00:03:18.940 Was fighting against the Crusaders
00:03:20.820 Or something like that
00:03:21.620 So it could be why
00:03:23.140 Yeah, that's right
00:03:24.560 So I suspect
00:03:25.400 That the Kurdish people 0.85
00:03:26.720 Are seen as the
00:03:27.900 Enemy of the
00:03:28.820 Early Christian Crusaders 0.98
00:03:30.720 Okay
00:03:31.220 So they
00:03:31.660 They won't
00:03:32.900 They'll never classify you as
00:03:34.320 White
00:03:35.020 Okay
00:03:35.680 They see that you
00:03:36.580 You know
00:03:36.880 That's why I suspect
00:03:37.860 I don't know
00:03:38.600 Okay
00:03:38.920 But the Turkish people 0.95
00:03:40.300 They don't like
00:03:41.080 Can I ask you
00:03:41.620 What is your purpose?
00:03:43.260 Like what do you do?
00:03:44.140 What's your purpose
00:03:44.560 Coming to the park?
00:03:45.560 Yes
00:03:45.840 Can you tell us a bit
00:03:46.540 So people get context
00:03:47.340 Because obviously people
00:03:47.900 That understand
00:03:48.300 That's very interesting
00:03:48.960 Yes
00:03:49.380 Why do you do this?
00:03:50.840 What's the purpose?
00:03:52.140 Tell us a bit more
00:03:52.800 Right
00:03:53.240 So the reason I come
00:03:56.240 To the park
00:03:56.940 And my position
00:03:57.540 Here in the park
00:03:58.300 Is I speak about
00:04:01.440 Fundamentally
00:04:02.620 Identity politics
00:04:04.360 Okay
00:04:05.160 Identity politics
00:04:06.880 As far as I understand
00:04:09.280 Covers all subjects
00:04:11.500 Because if you say
00:04:12.160 You're a Muslim 0.99
00:04:12.800 You have to identify
00:04:14.840 As a Muslim
00:04:15.560 Yeah
00:04:15.800 If you say
00:04:16.880 You're a Christian
00:04:17.580 You have to identify
00:04:18.800 As a Christian
00:04:19.500 But you cannot tell
00:04:20.840 Visually
00:04:21.460 The difference between
00:04:22.700 A Muslim
00:04:23.620 And a Christian
00:04:24.960 Okay
00:04:25.500 Or a real Muslim 1.00
00:04:26.860 And a fake Muslim 1.00
00:04:28.060 Okay yeah 0.97
00:04:28.980 So all of this
00:04:30.280 In Islam we believe
00:04:30.980 It's internal
00:04:32.120 Exactly
00:04:32.600 Because just to add on that
00:04:34.140 Because we're bouncing off each other
00:04:35.080 Is that in Islam 0.99
00:04:36.180 There were people
00:04:37.000 Who were known as the munafik 0.95
00:04:38.120 The hypocrites 0.87
00:04:38.740 Sorry? 1.00
00:04:39.700 Munafik
00:04:40.100 Munafik
00:04:40.900 Yeah so they were known 0.85
00:04:41.560 As the hypocrites 0.98
00:04:42.100 They would claim 1.00
00:04:42.920 On their tongue
00:04:43.840 They're Muslim
00:04:44.360 But in their heart
00:04:45.300 They were disbelievers 1.00
00:04:46.000 Right
00:04:46.400 So we can't know
00:04:47.160 Who is what
00:04:47.780 Right right
00:04:48.600 So therefore
00:04:49.200 You have an identity issue
00:04:51.180 Yes
00:04:51.740 And the next level would be
00:04:54.720 Who can identify
00:04:56.900 A real Muslim 0.70
00:04:58.220 From a fake Muslim 1.00
00:04:59.140 God
00:04:59.440 Some people
00:04:59.900 Ah right
00:05:00.580 Some people would say
00:05:01.600 Only Allah can tell
00:05:03.900 The difference between
00:05:05.200 A real Muslim 0.55
00:05:06.760 And a fake Muslim 1.00
00:05:07.620 Whilst others would say 0.94
00:05:09.260 No
00:05:09.720 The normal people
00:05:11.740 Should be able to see
00:05:12.820 By their fruits
00:05:13.700 Or their works
00:05:14.580 Whether this Muslim 0.96
00:05:15.660 Is a good Muslim 0.95
00:05:16.520 Or a bad Muslim 1.00
00:05:17.460 Okay 0.99
00:05:17.680 Or Christian 1.00
00:05:18.340 Or Jew 1.00
00:05:19.100 Is it a real Jew 1.00
00:05:20.200 Or not
00:05:21.240 Yeah
00:05:21.480 Or like a real Greek 1.00
00:05:22.340 Or fake
00:05:22.920 Yes
00:05:23.560 Yes
00:05:24.120 Where does he say
00:05:25.200 Well
00:05:27.980 Are you Greek?
00:05:30.560 Yeah I'm here
00:05:31.040 Oh he's with
00:05:32.040 White
00:05:33.140 Hold on
00:05:34.280 What are you Ali?
00:05:35.860 I'm good
00:05:36.520 I'm with
00:05:36.900 Hold it
00:05:37.580 Just slow down
00:05:38.400 You're Barkan South European 0.82
00:05:39.440 I'm somewhere else
00:05:40.640 I'm unknown
00:05:41.540 I'm IC7
00:05:42.560 Slow down
00:05:43.340 So
00:05:44.240 If he says
00:05:45.740 He's Greek
00:05:46.560 Right
00:05:47.860 No person
00:05:51.440 No person
00:05:52.660 Can be
00:05:53.320 Greek
00:05:54.640 And Muslim
00:05:55.260 At the same time
00:05:56.320 Because
00:05:57.400 There's a chance
00:05:58.000 There's a chance
00:05:58.540 Because look here
00:05:59.280 Look
00:05:59.520 See
00:05:59.760 Greek
00:06:00.160 It's three types of Greeks 1.00
00:06:02.280 White race 0.99
00:06:02.640 Yeah
00:06:03.080 And the Greeks
00:06:03.720 Are represented
00:06:04.220 Aryan 0.68
00:06:04.680 Aryan 0.68
00:06:04.920 As whites 0.97
00:06:05.440 As whites 0.97
00:06:06.020 Yeah see
00:06:07.020 That's by British standards
00:06:08.660 That's by British standards
00:06:10.520 But look who else is there
00:06:11.160 Look
00:06:11.320 The Turks are there
00:06:12.120 The Turks are 1.00
00:06:12.900 But the Kurds 0.98
00:06:13.440 Go to Kurds 1.00
00:06:13.860 Where's Kurds? 1.00
00:06:14.340 Yeah the Kurdish are put 1.00
00:06:15.500 With the Arabs 1.00
00:06:16.940 Here look
00:06:17.460 Look
00:06:18.140 Other race
00:06:19.240 Oh look that makes you happy
00:06:20.200 Doesn't it
00:06:20.520 Yeah look
00:06:21.240 Look Kurdistan 0.96
00:06:22.620 At least an Arab 1.00
00:06:23.320 Hello how you doing madam
00:06:24.460 I'm just finding my identity
00:06:26.080 I'm quite lost at the moment
00:06:27.820 See that's Kurdish 0.99
00:06:28.940 Are you Moroccan?
00:06:31.540 Look here's Moroccan 0.73
00:06:32.380 Yeah
00:06:32.740 Moroccan yeah
00:06:34.800 Other by Irish
00:06:35.560 Yeah so you're with
00:06:37.180 The Kurdish
00:06:38.140 But what's other race? 0.89
00:06:39.700 Me me me
00:06:40.780 I'm other race
00:06:41.500 Yeah
00:06:41.880 It means I'm special
00:06:42.840 Well you're other than white 1.00
00:06:44.480 I like the way you're saying you're Irish 0.99
00:06:46.200 Irish
00:06:47.040 Yeah Irish
00:06:47.840 This is Irish
00:06:50.600 There's two types of Irish
00:06:53.620 There's white Irish 0.86
00:06:56.480 And white traveller of Irish heritage
00:06:59.660 Excuse me
00:07:00.760 No no no
00:07:02.560 Two different types
00:07:03.320 Sorry sorry come here madam 1.00
00:07:04.480 Two different types of Irish 0.97
00:07:05.740 You can come here
00:07:06.260 Yeah
00:07:08.240 Madam
00:07:08.640 Madam
00:07:09.000 That's the British 1.00
00:07:10.180 You can come here
00:07:10.640 You can come here
00:07:11.100 You
00:07:11.540 Come here
00:07:12.060 So Kurdish and Turkish
00:07:13.980 Are not the same
00:07:14.800 No no no
00:07:15.380 Okay yeah so
00:07:16.080 So you're involved in identity politics
00:07:18.920 Yes
00:07:19.560 Why
00:07:20.300 Why out of everything but why
00:07:22.760 Right because identity politics is the ultimate subject
00:07:27.720 Because as we discussed earlier
00:07:30.120 How do you differentiate between a true Muslim and a fake Muslim 1.00
00:07:36.620 Some would say only Allah can tell
00:07:39.700 Yes
00:07:40.000 The difference between a true and fake
00:07:41.080 It's internal
00:07:41.100 Yeah
00:07:41.480 But there are others who would say that your fellow members should also tell
00:07:48.540 You reminded me of something
00:07:49.520 Okay
00:07:50.080 One of the second caliphs of Islam said that before
00:07:53.620 Because some people say don't judge me don't judge me when I'm sitting here
00:07:56.160 Yes
00:07:56.360 One of the second caliphs of Islam said we used to judge by revelation 0.99
00:07:58.660 The revelation is stopped now
00:08:00.260 We judge why it was apparent
00:08:01.840 Ah you hear that
00:08:03.160 You hear that
00:08:03.700 Very serious
00:08:05.940 It's very serious
00:08:07.320 Very serious
00:08:08.380 I'm Kurdish I'm serious
00:08:09.560 You know
00:08:09.920 Because
00:08:10.520 Because
00:08:11.240 To judge by what's apparent
00:08:13.580 They're going to judge you by your actions
00:08:15.860 Correct
00:08:16.180 Yes
00:08:16.740 And what you're doing
00:08:17.540 Yes
00:08:18.000 And then this leads me on to the question that I wanted to ask you
00:08:20.320 How you hold the camera
00:08:21.460 Right okay yes
00:08:23.100 So
00:08:25.320 Which moves on to the next question
00:08:27.820 That I understand that there's a Muslim
00:08:30.400 Uh
00:08:32.560 Mugh-shin 1.00
00:08:33.620 Mugh-s 1.00
00:08:34.720 Uh
00:08:35.620 And Mugh-meen 1.00
00:08:37.120 Mugh-lis 1.00
00:08:37.940 Mugh-lis 1.00
00:08:38.740 And Mugh-meen I think 1.00
00:08:40.060 Say it again
00:08:40.900 Muslim
00:08:41.740 Muslim
00:08:42.240 Muslim 1.00
00:08:42.940 So slow down 1.00
00:08:43.740 Muslim 1.00
00:08:44.400 Muslim
00:08:45.500 Mugh-lis 1.00
00:08:46.180 Mugh-lis 1.00
00:08:47.160 Yes I think so if I'm not mistaken
00:08:48.920 And Mugh-meen 1.00
00:08:49.980 Mugh-meen but I heard it's Mugh-shin 1.00
00:08:52.740 Mugh-shin 1.00
00:08:54.740 I'll double check
00:08:55.700 I'll double check
00:08:56.700 I'll double check
00:08:57.700 But I know Muslim and Mugh-meen 1.00
00:08:59.080 The Mu'min is the one that's reached the pinnacle of belief. 1.00
00:09:01.580 And there's Muslim, because Allah says in the Quran,
00:09:03.880 the Muslim man and the Muslim Mu'min.
00:09:05.880 The believing man and the believing Mu'min. 0.99
00:09:07.380 So Allah differentiates between the Muslim and the believing. 0.91
00:09:10.180 And so He's made it seem to certain Arabs.
00:09:12.580 So He said, don't say that you're a believer.
00:09:14.880 You're a Muslim. 0.98
00:09:15.880 So meaning, you've submitted,
00:09:17.780 but you haven't truly encompassed what belief means.
00:09:20.780 Yeah.
00:09:21.880 Right, so...
00:09:23.380 So, in your opinion,
00:09:30.680 would the Mu'min, Mu'min, 0.91
00:09:34.180 be able to...
00:09:34.980 Would you be able to see the actions
00:09:38.980 that a Mu'min is a genuine Muslim? 1.00
00:09:42.680 Okay.
00:09:43.080 By their actions?
00:09:43.880 Just quickly, what does that cross for a minute?
00:09:46.080 One subject at a time.
00:09:47.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:48.580 Go on.
00:09:49.480 I would say, is it central to the Quran?
00:09:51.080 Yeah, it is.
00:09:51.780 Yeah, can you make it a bit central?
00:09:53.280 Yeah.
00:09:53.780 I would say,
00:09:55.580 from the outer apparent action,
00:09:57.080 you might see someone dressed in like,
00:09:58.280 you have people come here dressed in a certain white,
00:10:00.580 holy looking,
00:10:01.580 but internally, we don't know.
00:10:02.980 So from the apparent, yes,
00:10:04.080 you can see the actions that we see,
00:10:05.580 we observe.
00:10:06.580 So for example,
00:10:07.580 the Prophet said to us,
00:10:08.580 you cannot say that you know somebody,
00:10:11.080 I think the Prophet said,
00:10:12.080 I can't remember.
00:10:13.580 You do not know somebody
00:10:14.680 until you've done business with them,
00:10:16.580 you've travelled with them,
00:10:17.780 and you've lived with them.
00:10:19.580 So you can't come and say you know anybody
00:10:21.080 until you've done this business.
00:10:22.080 travelled and lived.
00:10:23.580 Wow.
00:10:24.080 And that's so true,
00:10:24.580 because sometimes you think like,
00:10:25.580 you know what,
00:10:25.880 ah, he's my friend.
00:10:26.580 You get into business,
00:10:27.380 ah, he's somebody else.
00:10:28.880 You travel with him,
00:10:29.880 you live with him,
00:10:30.680 the guy keeps picking his nose,
00:10:32.080 I don't know what kind of stuff, yeah?
00:10:33.180 Or you live with him.
00:10:34.180 So this is how you know a person.
00:10:36.380 Okay.
00:10:36.880 So we can judge,
00:10:38.380 but internally we don't know.
00:10:39.880 Okay.
00:10:40.380 So which side would you be on?
00:10:42.380 Would you be on the side that says,
00:10:44.880 nobody can judge,
00:10:46.380 only Allah knows the real Muslim or not?
00:10:48.880 No, no, no, no.
00:10:50.380 Slow down.
00:10:50.880 Let me ask a question,
00:10:51.380 and then you...
00:10:52.380 So there's two sides I understand.
00:10:54.380 One side is that,
00:10:58.880 know only Allah knows the true Muslim 1.00
00:11:02.880 and the fake Muslim. 0.79
00:11:04.380 Leave that to Allah. 1.00
00:11:05.880 No man can know.
00:11:07.380 The other side is that
00:11:14.380 Muslim brothers and sisters can tell
00:11:18.380 who are members of their family.
00:11:20.380 And their judgment of the Muslim or Mufshin
00:11:24.380 will be in harmony with Allah.
00:11:27.380 They, you know,
00:11:29.380 because they're following Allah, 0.57
00:11:31.380 they will have the same insight and vision of Allah
00:11:35.380 to a degree.
00:11:36.380 Yes.
00:11:36.880 And so they'll be able to tell
00:11:37.880 whether somebody is true or false.
00:11:40.380 So which side are you on?
00:11:41.880 Okay.
00:11:42.380 What we say is the following.
00:11:43.880 We say nobody can declare anyone a disbeliever,
00:11:48.380 innovator,
00:11:50.380 evil doer,
00:11:51.380 yeah?
00:11:52.380 Unless there is apparent characteristics.
00:11:55.380 So if somebody stamps on a Quran,
00:11:58.380 we will say the action of that is disbelief.
00:12:02.380 However,
00:12:03.380 did he know that stepping on the Quran 0.97
00:12:05.380 could render him,
00:12:07.380 is he sane?
00:12:08.380 Ah, right.
00:12:09.380 So there's stuff that render him.
00:12:10.380 But then you have certain groups
00:12:11.380 that will come and deem anyone a disbeliever,
00:12:14.380 innovator,
00:12:15.380 and this is ignorance. 0.51
00:12:17.380 This is absolute ignorance
00:12:18.380 because this is matters of the scholars.
00:12:19.380 So you cannot come and say,
00:12:20.380 however,
00:12:21.380 sorry,
00:12:22.380 there's a camera.
00:12:23.380 You can block the camera.
00:12:24.380 You can block the camera.
00:12:25.380 You can block the camera.
00:12:26.380 So, yeah.
00:12:27.380 So the thing is,
00:12:28.380 when it comes to that,
00:12:29.380 it's very severe.
00:12:30.380 God knows really,
00:12:31.380 but there's certain actions that we can see
00:12:33.380 and say,
00:12:34.380 hold on a second,
00:12:35.380 this man is saying,
00:12:36.380 oh,
00:12:37.380 I bow down to Jesus.
00:12:38.380 You're not Muslim. 1.00
00:12:39.380 Simple as that.
00:12:40.380 You're not Muslim. 1.00
00:12:41.380 Because you're doing something
00:12:42.380 that is fundamentally against the teachers of Islam.
00:12:44.380 So that renders your belief.
00:12:46.380 Right.
00:12:47.380 Because by that person's actions,
00:12:50.380 you can then make a decision,
00:12:51.380 and the community can then make,
00:12:53.380 the community of Islam can then make a judgement
00:12:56.380 on that person.
00:12:57.380 Yes.
00:12:58.380 Based on the actions they do.
00:12:59.380 Right.
00:13:00.380 And you follow that side?
00:13:01.380 Yes.
00:13:02.380 Okay.
00:13:03.380 So there's a fine balance.
00:13:04.380 Like,
00:13:05.380 I can say,
00:13:06.380 okay,
00:13:07.380 he is a Muslim.
00:13:08.380 I can't come and say he's a disbeliever.
00:13:09.380 But,
00:13:10.380 his actions that he's doing,
00:13:11.380 can confirm that to me.
00:13:12.380 If he says,
00:13:13.380 I believe Jesus is also a part of God,
00:13:14.380 you're not a Muslim anymore. 0.96
00:13:15.380 Right.
00:13:16.380 The statement that you just uttered,
00:13:17.380 you respect the following Islam.
00:13:18.380 Right.
00:13:19.380 The declaration.
00:13:20.380 Unitas.
00:13:21.380 Yeah.
00:13:22.380 Right.
00:13:23.380 Good.
00:13:24.380 Thank you.
00:13:25.380 That's cleared up.
00:13:26.380 So how does that fit into,
00:13:27.380 like,
00:13:28.380 what you do here?
00:13:29.380 Erm,
00:13:30.380 well,
00:13:31.380 fundamentally it fits in,
00:13:32.380 to,
00:13:33.380 er,
00:13:34.380 whether,
00:13:35.380 identity,
00:13:36.380 once again,
00:13:37.380 your,
00:13:38.380 the,
00:13:39.380 Islamic community,
00:13:40.380 from what you're saying,
00:13:41.380 er,
00:13:42.380 can identify,
00:13:43.380 er,
00:13:44.380 a true Muslim.
00:13:45.380 Yeah.
00:13:46.380 by their actions,
00:13:47.380 or by their,
00:13:48.380 er,
00:13:49.380 declarations.
00:13:50.380 Yes.
00:13:51.380 So I understand your position.
00:13:52.380 Yeah.
00:13:53.380 So that was my question.
00:13:54.380 Oh,
00:13:55.380 it was a question.
00:13:56.380 Sorry.
00:13:57.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:58.380 So it's cleared up now.
00:13:59.380 So in a nutshell,
00:14:00.380 you're trying to raise awareness.
00:14:01.380 Like,
00:14:02.380 are you happy with this?
00:14:03.380 Do you have a problem with this?
00:14:04.380 What is it that you,
00:14:05.380 you like?
00:14:06.380 Right.
00:14:07.380 Okay.
00:14:08.380 So,
00:14:09.380 we move on to a next,
00:14:10.380 a higher level now,
00:14:11.380 where, er,
00:14:12.380 my raising awareness,
00:14:13.380 of this information,
00:14:14.380 making people aware,
00:14:16.380 of the,
00:14:17.380 British,
00:14:18.380 state,
00:14:19.380 opinion.
00:14:20.380 Not,
00:14:21.380 individuals.
00:14:22.380 Oh.
00:14:23.380 If you speak to individuals,
00:14:24.380 they say,
00:14:25.380 oh, that's racist,
00:14:26.380 or that's not racist.
00:14:27.380 Ah.
00:14:28.380 All kinds of confusion.
00:14:29.380 Right.
00:14:30.380 So,
00:14:31.380 I,
00:14:32.380 I wash away all individual,
00:14:33.380 conversation about race,
00:14:34.380 and racism,
00:14:35.380 and then I deal with,
00:14:36.380 what the power,
00:14:37.380 power is a state.
00:14:39.380 They have the power to put you in prison,
00:14:41.380 take you out,
00:14:42.380 or even fight against your nation.
00:14:43.380 So,
00:14:44.380 the only interest I have,
00:14:45.380 when it comes to,
00:14:46.380 talking about identity,
00:14:47.380 and race,
00:14:48.380 and ethnicity,
00:14:49.380 is what is the state position?
00:14:52.380 What is the belief of the state?
00:14:54.380 Okay.
00:14:55.380 And then,
00:14:56.380 what is the religion?
00:14:58.380 Come on.
00:14:59.380 Yeah.
00:15:00.380 So, just,
00:15:01.380 so how I see this,
00:15:03.380 just like you,
00:15:04.380 uh,
00:15:05.380 Muslims,
00:15:06.380 will have the Quran.
00:15:08.380 Yeah.
00:15:09.380 Uh,
00:15:10.380 this is,
00:15:11.380 that's how serious,
00:15:12.380 this,
00:15:13.380 this,
00:15:14.380 this,
00:15:15.380 this is their religion.
00:15:16.380 So,
00:15:17.380 that's how they operate by it?
00:15:18.380 Yeah.
00:15:19.380 I've been doing it for years.
00:15:20.380 That's right.
00:15:21.380 So,
00:15:22.380 this is the British state,
00:15:23.380 faith,
00:15:24.380 religion.
00:15:25.380 Ah,
00:15:26.380 well here's,
00:15:27.380 here's,
00:15:28.380 here's,
00:15:29.380 here's,
00:15:30.380 here's the challenge.
00:15:31.380 You see,
00:15:32.380 it's taken me many years,
00:15:33.380 to get this much information.
00:15:35.380 Wow.
00:15:36.380 And I've had to do,
00:15:37.380 do it,
00:15:38.380 um,
00:15:39.380 by freedom of information request.
00:15:40.380 Yes.
00:15:41.380 So,
00:15:42.380 as a bit like prayer.
00:15:43.380 Yeah.
00:15:44.380 It's like,
00:15:45.380 it's like sending a letter to God.
00:15:46.380 So,
00:15:49.380 like prayer,
00:15:50.380 you have to be very clear,
00:15:53.380 when you're communicating with the power.
00:15:55.380 Yes.
00:15:56.380 So,
00:15:57.380 over the years,
00:15:58.380 as I've tried to understand,
00:16:00.380 Yeah.
00:16:01.380 this Quran,
00:16:02.380 the British Quran.
00:16:03.380 Yeah.
00:16:04.380 I send,
00:16:05.380 uh,
00:16:06.380 information requests.
00:16:07.380 Yeah.
00:16:08.380 But,
00:16:10.380 if you ask,
00:16:11.380 if you send an information request,
00:16:13.380 uh,
00:16:14.380 to the state.
00:16:15.380 Yeah.
00:16:16.380 And you make a mistake,
00:16:17.380 in the way you're questioning.
00:16:19.380 Really?
00:16:20.380 Yes.
00:16:21.380 Or in the,
00:16:22.380 the words that you choose.
00:16:23.380 Yeah.
00:16:24.380 That you won't get,
00:16:25.380 that your prayers answered.
00:16:26.380 In other words,
00:16:27.380 you won't get a response.
00:16:28.380 Serious?
00:16:29.380 You won't understand,
00:16:30.380 yeah, yeah.
00:16:31.380 They,
00:16:32.380 they will not give you more information.
00:16:33.380 So,
00:16:34.380 in order to be,
00:16:35.380 in order to judge.
00:16:36.380 How do you say it?
00:16:37.380 Hold it.
00:16:38.380 In order to make a judgment,
00:16:39.380 on this.
00:16:40.380 Yeah.
00:16:41.380 Whether the British state is right or wrong.
00:16:42.380 Yeah.
00:16:43.380 So,
00:16:44.380 how they are,
00:16:45.380 using,
00:16:46.380 their Quran,
00:16:47.380 or their holy book.
00:16:48.380 Hmm.
00:16:49.380 You know.
00:16:50.380 So, I know it exists.
00:16:51.380 There it is.
00:16:52.380 Okay.
00:16:53.380 But,
00:16:54.380 you know,
00:16:55.380 I can't call them racist,
00:16:56.380 or,
00:16:57.380 discriminatory,
00:16:58.380 or,
00:16:59.380 unjust.
00:17:00.380 Hmm.
00:17:01.380 Because,
00:17:02.380 I would have to get,
00:17:03.380 certain information,
00:17:04.380 about how,
00:17:05.380 it's being used.
00:17:06.380 Hmm.
00:17:07.380 In order to make a judgment,
00:17:08.380 on whether I believe,
00:17:10.380 it's good,
00:17:11.380 or it's bad.
00:17:12.380 So,
00:17:13.380 what's your decision?
00:17:14.380 Is it good,
00:17:15.380 or bad?
00:17:16.380 I can't say.
00:17:17.380 Because,
00:17:18.380 I'm constantly,
00:17:19.380 constantly,
00:17:20.380 trying to gather,
00:17:21.380 more information.
00:17:22.380 Okay.
00:17:23.380 Look,
00:17:24.380 forget the British government.
00:17:25.380 Because,
00:17:26.380 they're not answering.
00:17:27.380 Pray to God straight.
00:17:28.380 Okay.
00:17:29.380 Allah says in the Quran,
00:17:30.380 I respond to the caller that calls upon me.
00:17:31.380 And,
00:17:32.380 He doesn't say Muslim.
00:17:33.380 He says anyone that calls upon me,
00:17:34.380 I respond to them.
00:17:35.380 Okay.
00:17:36.380 So, I invite you,
00:17:37.380 to Islam.
00:17:38.380 No,
00:17:39.380 I'm joking.
00:17:40.380 Back here.
00:17:41.380 Is there anything else,
00:17:42.380 you would like to say?
00:17:43.380 We can,
00:17:44.380 we can,
00:17:45.380 we can finish it there,
00:17:46.380 then continue at some other time.
00:17:47.380 Sure.
00:17:48.380 Yeah,
00:17:49.380 but I think that's,
00:17:50.380 I think that's been quite,
00:17:51.380 some information.
00:17:52.380 Oh, okay.
00:17:53.380 What, what, what?
00:17:54.380 Yeah, I see this a lot.
00:17:55.380 What is this?
00:17:56.380 Are you an undercover Christian? 0.93
00:17:57.380 Be honest.
00:17:58.380 Okay.
00:17:59.380 Yeah.
00:18:00.380 My,
00:18:01.380 my,
00:18:02.380 my personal ideology,
00:18:03.380 Yeah.
00:18:04.380 Is,
00:18:05.380 I am,
00:18:06.380 a national,
00:18:07.380 racialist.
00:18:09.380 Not a,
00:18:10.380 national,
00:18:11.380 socialist.
00:18:13.380 National?
00:18:14.380 National racialist.
00:18:15.380 Okay.
00:18:16.380 And what does that mean?
00:18:17.380 That means,
00:18:18.380 I believe,
00:18:19.380 that,
00:18:20.380 a nation,
00:18:21.380 conserves,
00:18:23.380 a race.
00:18:24.380 No,
00:18:25.380 like,
00:18:26.380 conservatives.
00:18:27.380 Yes.
00:18:28.380 So, like,
00:18:29.380 conservative party,
00:18:30.380 is supposed to be conserving something.
00:18:31.380 Ah.
00:18:32.380 So, what are they conserving?
00:18:33.380 Okay.
00:18:34.380 Right?
00:18:35.380 So,
00:18:36.380 national racialism means,
00:18:37.380 a nation conserves a race, 0.84
00:18:38.380 and a race,
00:18:39.380 conserves,
00:18:40.380 a nation.
00:18:41.380 And then,
00:18:42.380 ethnicities come under,
00:18:43.380 race.
00:18:44.380 Okay.
00:18:45.380 Yeah.
00:18:46.380 Brilliant.
00:18:47.380 That's,
00:18:48.380 that's actually very informative.
00:18:49.380 Yeah.
00:18:50.380 It's a Nazi course. 0.87
00:18:52.380 Is that a Nazi course? 0.77
00:18:53.380 Okay.
00:18:54.380 So,
00:18:55.380 the question is...
00:18:56.380 Do you want to come and ask?
00:18:57.380 Well, okay,
00:18:58.380 one second, one second.
00:18:59.380 Okay.
00:19:00.380 We're going to finish the discussion.
00:19:01.380 Thank you for watching, brothers and sisters.
00:19:02.380 That was going to have a discussion now,
00:19:03.380 asking some information,
00:19:04.380 about what this means.
00:19:05.380 Okay.
00:19:06.380 What is this paranormal activity?
00:19:08.380 Do you want to go be more than a few words?
00:19:10.380 First of all,
00:19:11.380 the newness of science is giant skin.
00:19:13.380 Okay.
00:19:14.380 All right.
00:19:16.380 Do you think this is livro about the
00:19:30.400 problem?
00:19:32.380 A rope problem.
00:19:33.380 That is what you've got to do.