Bankas Podcast - April 15, 2025


Jeff Dolezal | Bankas Podcast - #089


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 28 minutes

Words per Minute

203.8835

Word Count

17,948

Sentence Count

9

Misogynist Sentences

34

Hate Speech Sentences

193


Summary

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This week, the loonies are joined by comedian and podcaster to talk about what it's like to be a podcaster in the 21st century. We talk about being a comedian, podcasting, and the joys of being poor.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 coming together the podcast studios coming together man it's not uh looks good it's not easy
00:00:07.320 i mean it's pretty easy i mean sitting down talking this is harder than working 60 hours
00:00:14.040 a week construction kit this is yeah dude i mean it's i would say it's harder than being a teacher
00:00:19.200 people are so mean to like anytime you actually try to get money from people like again if if
00:00:26.400 you're selling tickets that's one thing people are pretty chill about that but recently i posted
00:00:31.820 like join my patreon support me on patreon on like my facebook fan page and some guy just some jewish
00:00:38.720 guy which made me more anti-semitic than i mean i'm jewish but i'm just you know i'm trying to get
00:00:44.640 with the times folks i'm trying to get with the times and trying to so and he was some guy named
00:00:49.240 horowitz something horowitz and he was like like a paragraph where he's like listen i like your stuff
00:00:56.060 i'll watch the videos i'll i'll give you a like every once in a while but there's no under no
00:01:02.480 circumstances will i ever give you a fucking penny for your fucking podcast you and he's like too many
00:01:09.880 people getting rich off this shit fuck that it's so and i was like you're making me more anti-semitic
00:01:16.760 your last name's horowitz save your shekels for the 30 tickets when i come to the fucking loony bin
00:01:22.520 do you know where he's from no i didn't look i didn't go that deep i could have he's probably
00:01:28.440 just gonna watch your specials on youtube for free watch him in a week just be like you know
00:01:32.800 what now i'm curious i'm gonna join patreon but it is yeah being a comedian now it's kind of
00:01:40.340 similar to only fans yeah you have to whore yourself out yeah you have to constantly be thinking
00:01:46.160 of like a new piece of content a different color dildo yeah you gotta constantly be doing that
00:01:52.040 shit and then you'll do it and people will be like oh that's all this guy is now yeah it's all he does
00:01:58.140 now that's all he does now but that's the problem with that's why like you need more people on your
00:02:03.300 as like podcast fans because then they're actually like a fan of you as a person versus just like yeah
00:02:08.920 i like your clips but you know to give you five bucks a month it seems yeah for sure but people have
00:02:14.600 so many subscriptions it's just like disgusting that they won't support for five bucks like
00:02:21.240 especially like a podcast like when i worked an office job i had like the three or four podcasts
00:02:25.960 that i fucked with heavily and like i needed those to get through my day and if one of those podcasts
00:02:31.760 was like five bucks a month and you can get an extra one a week it's like yeah i have to i gotta kill
00:02:38.320 40 hours of boredom every fucking week i'll do it i'll pay it but you're like competing with
00:02:43.160 you know literally the best podcasts in the world that have an unlimited amount but i think i think
00:02:50.640 you're underestimating how many people listen to like a dozen podcasts a week because they're at an
00:02:56.960 office like my old job was i sat in front of a computer with headphones on for 40 hours like not
00:03:03.880 including you know like lunch break and all that kind of shit i was i was going through like three
00:03:08.200 four podcasts a day wow you have to it's the only you can't listen to music for six hours no i mean
00:03:15.040 you can you can take a break and listen to music for a little bit but like i would listen to like
00:03:19.120 seven or eight podcasts a week minimum when i drove when i drove from toronto to texas i listened to
00:03:27.200 the same drake album like over and over again which one uh dark lane demo tapes i like that one that's
00:03:35.280 that's not isn't that one like four tracks long no no it's pretty long actually that's scary yeah
00:03:41.180 i thought you were listening to the same four songs i was like that's actually crazy yeah no uh dark lane
00:03:46.940 demo tapes it's got that one where it's like desires it's a lot of it's like his first dabble into a lot
00:03:53.680 of texas kind of stuff so i was like getting pumped to move to texas drake's a great listen when things are
00:03:59.500 going well yeah when things are going well you little drake like i am the fucking man i'm i
00:04:05.240 depends what you're sad about if you're sad over a breakup it's still good yeah it's probably pretty
00:04:09.520 good if you're sad about being poor it sucks yes if like what music do you even listen to if you're
00:04:15.080 sad about being poor though uh i don't know because you can't listen to rap because it's a that's a
00:04:22.500 different kind of poor you could listen to my kind of poor is like i i got laid off their kind of poor
00:04:28.100 is like my plug got shot mexican ot that's a good poor guy yeah he's good good that guy was so hot for
00:04:38.780 a minute and like he went on rogan and everything and i saw him on sixth street when i was standing
00:04:43.420 outside of what used to be maggie mays across from the mothership and people were like running towards
00:04:49.420 him to like get pickers yeah i bet but he just got so obese like he started out not that fat and he
00:04:57.240 even talks about it on rogan he's like because he doesn't really give a fuck it's they don't have
00:05:02.240 a rogan like hip-hop does not have a guy being like you need to work out yeah you need to go take an ice
00:05:08.920 bath and you need to go for like a long walk you need to like concentrate on your mental health they
00:05:13.480 don't have that they just have i mean drake are is in shape and probably works out but he's not
00:05:19.100 preaching it he's not being like yo and all the rappers out there you better fucking work it's
00:05:23.080 all they have is they have the pedophile and they have the nazi those are the two
00:05:26.860 honestly kanye kanye might get you into some shape yeah kanye's on kanye's like doing interviews calling
00:05:35.020 people he's he's on twitter talking about how worthless fat women are that's true so like he might
00:05:41.080 be the guy they keep shutting down their guy honestly the black community would thrive if they would
00:05:46.560 just let him go i think they do like it i think they secretly do i think he knows this too that
00:05:51.960 like his real og fans like there's no og fans of kanye who are like bro chill they're like yo this is
00:05:58.360 hilarious i i mean i have a kanye tattoo i love you yeah we see it what wait let me see his face i
00:06:05.600 replaced his head it's the it's the collector's edition cover of my beautiful dark twist oh shit
00:06:11.260 i replaced his head with uh michelangelo's david just because i didn't want like a severed black
00:06:17.300 guy head on my arm just in case you're going to a track meet in dallas ford or whatever do you see
00:06:24.400 that or just in case i had to you know go do like a black room right i mean that would be respect no
00:06:30.860 oh well it's severed though it's yeah it's like a sword through a severed black dude's head yeah that's
00:06:36.260 that's which when you look at the type of thing you just get and then like two weeks later you're
00:06:41.320 like oh fuck that actually might look like yeah it's so funny that i got this and i was like he's
00:06:45.980 my favorite artist i'll never regret this and then like a couple years later he's like i'm yadolf
00:06:50.360 yitler i'm like bah fuck all right but still i don't even think he's doing an ice bath but like
00:06:55.880 mexican ot like i feel bad because he's really talented but it's one of those things and i even
00:07:01.300 realize it with comedy like there's a certain level of fat where you have to like
00:07:05.020 you either keep going and commit to dying at like mid 40s or you're like yeah like you're ralphie
00:07:12.020 maying it or you're like okay because even i mean the fattest comedian name the fattest comedians
00:07:17.820 they're all trying to lose weight lavelle crawford that guy that guy looks ozempic as fuck he looks
00:07:23.960 good super ozempic i think he that he lost weight pre-ozempic though i think but he might have been a
00:07:28.660 candidate he might have got like a gastrointestinal surgery yeah but i love when someone gets the
00:07:34.880 gastro surgery and they still end up being fat it's sad it's i mean it's tough my mom was addicted
00:07:42.300 to my 500 pound life that was my mom's favorite show i thought you were about to say like m&ms or
00:07:46.660 something no she was like a hoarder she also liked hoarders and then once she beat like the dementia
00:07:52.480 took too much of her and she became more of a hoarder then she just straight up fucking just my
00:07:59.000 500 pound life well i'm not that yeah true that's the people who really get into those shows are the
00:08:04.380 people who are like light hoarders yeah they have like a little hint of it no like well i don't i
00:08:10.420 don't still have cat shit i throw the cat shit away like yeah but you know half your food's expired
00:08:16.280 my grandma for the last like probably because she had dementia the last like five years of her life
00:08:22.060 was spending so much time with stomach flus and just like food poisoning and when she passed away
00:08:28.840 like we went through her fridge and we're like oh yeah like everything in here is expired no wonder
00:08:32.880 she was like losing 10 pounds a month that is gain it back and lose it again that's mostly a white
00:08:40.520 problem i feel like hoarding yeah i guess asians maybe slightly with like weird asian shit but it's
00:08:50.200 mostly asians are different though because they'll shove nine people in a three bedroom so that's not
00:08:55.700 really hoarding they're hoarding human beings they're trafficking people yeah that's trafficking
00:09:00.640 indians like in well in toronto they'll have like there's a muslim area and the muslims have
00:09:07.600 they all have like bachelors and one bedrooms and they just fucking cram it with like yeah two wives
00:09:13.040 three wives seven kids that's how that's how florida was with guatemalans like everywhere has somebody
00:09:19.700 you would rent like a condo or like we bought a condo in florida and like we had guatemalan neighbors
00:09:24.780 and like we had a two bedroom it was me and my wife and my dog and they would they would have nine
00:09:29.820 people in the two bedroom like the living room had two beds in it the kitchen had a bed it's like
00:09:35.040 they'll they'll make it work that's gonna be like white people when we all have to move to china
00:09:40.920 because our countries are falling apart yeah maybe not that joke i'm not going i'm not toronto no i'm
00:09:49.200 no china fuck no the thing is if they had like legal cannabis like everything else is cool like
00:09:56.040 the the just the idea of getting caught with anything or like you go to jail forever
00:10:00.740 kind of stuff scares me like that's like there's so many chinese people
00:10:05.120 yeah but i feel like they're cooler than our chinese people because they stayed
00:10:09.140 have you seen that one streamer i forget his name but he's like a black guy and he's in china and people
00:10:15.000 are just straight up right they're all fans of this but they look yeah yeah they like come up
00:10:19.120 and call him the n-word yeah it's hilarious they have like picket signs of kfc yeah yeah it's very
00:10:24.120 funny have you seen but they like him like they actually love him it's part of the shtick and his
00:10:28.340 shtick is to be like bro bro are you no yeah this can't be real you can't be doing shit like that
00:10:34.380 have you seen uh like videos of like when nba players like age out and they go play in china
00:10:41.880 the buses will arrive at arenas and they like throw bananas in the buses like that's all right
00:10:48.920 you know what i'm turning around on china china's cool you just feel bad for not making the nba and
00:10:55.020 you're like maybe i'll take this this gig then you end up just getting bananas thrown at you it's
00:10:59.460 funny to go to another country and nobody speaks english but the n-word it's the only one they know
00:11:06.340 you can't have a conversation with them somehow the only thing that migrated from america to china
00:11:12.800 linguistically is racial slurs isn't the n-word in chinese also um like i remember
00:11:20.160 russell peters had a bit about that because it's like it's a very similar sounding word
00:11:25.680 and it means um so in chinese they like say what sounds like the n-word all the time but it's just
00:11:31.660 um yeah yeah i know they're like thinking about something they just say the n-word yes which is
00:11:36.920 pretty hard that goes which is pretty sick yeah but it's also like the reason they black people do that
00:11:42.180 too
00:11:42.360 yeah they do actually it's like uh chinese like you remember when you were a kid and you met
00:11:51.860 like a kid that could speak a different language and the first thing you asked was like curse words
00:11:56.980 racial slurs like it was the first thing you wanted to know right it's i mean it's nice to know that
00:12:02.000 other countries feel the same it's nice to know that like china when like an american goes over there
00:12:06.740 they're like what are your slurs i'm pretty sure they have i'm pretty sure china has more english
00:12:11.740 speaking people than america just because sheer volume of people you think so i'm i'm almost like 100
00:12:18.240 i mean yeah there's what 3 billion chinese people two two billion there's only like three i think
00:12:23.700 it's like 500 million speak english or something yeah so you could technically go do stand-up in
00:12:30.440 china they have my buddy just did it i know a couple dudes who have done it they said it's good
00:12:35.080 like it's fine like it but it's only if you're like a tourist and then you happen to go to like an
00:12:41.000 open mic if you're trying to do like a tour i think it becomes yeah i mean i don't think they
00:12:45.860 could handle like an hour of like references they probably don't understand power of the n-word
00:12:52.220 i could probably handle that oh i could handle that no it looks sick i'm just i think that if
00:12:58.200 white people ended up moving there like anywhere white people have to immigrate we never live as
00:13:02.540 badly as the people who are immigrating to our countries like white people are like i had to
00:13:06.500 move to guanamala or i chose to go to nicaragua during the pandemic and it's like yeah you have an
00:13:11.860 estate now for what yeah the price of a condo yeah you'd be living it's like those dudes in thailand
00:13:17.980 except you're terrified the whole time that somebody's gonna climb your fucking wall and just
00:13:22.780 murder and rob your whole family i mean that's could happen anywhere but i feel like chinese
00:13:27.840 people are so timid no i mean like in nicaragua oh well you don't move to nicaragua but people do
00:13:33.460 like white people have been en masse moving to all the south american remove the agua from that
00:13:37.980 you gotta know i should have sent you that real there was a real where it's
00:13:41.960 it's like an it's like an info thing about argentina it's like 80 of argentina is white
00:13:50.140 and then it just cuts to like a guy guys watching it and he's just like he's just like packing his
00:13:55.580 suitcase with everything he can just getting on a flight flying there immediately i mean you know
00:14:00.280 why argentina is white correct nazis yeah that's where they all went like all the nazis that fled
00:14:06.240 germany once it once like they knew the sink the ship was sinking they all went to argentina
00:14:11.840 like there there are a lot of videos of like uh like girls on tiktok being like i got my um 23 and
00:14:19.720 me and it turns out that i'm actually 70 argentinian which is weird because i have blonde hair and blue
00:14:25.520 eyes and the comments are just like your grandfather was a monster yeah or he was spanish i mean spanish
00:14:32.100 people are technically white too true yeah like the original people who are governing it they were
00:14:38.900 white and they were racist so they weren't trying to like mix as much as other countries yeah but
00:14:44.940 people from spain don't really have like blonde hair blue eyes that's a real aryan thing yeah i guess
00:14:49.820 so they have but they're white they're still they have like yeah they're still they're still white
00:14:53.460 but my buddy went to argentina too and said it was very white but it's also like looks it looks
00:14:58.660 beautiful it looks like more like europe than europe at this point they have all that original
00:15:05.140 og like all the stuff buenos aires all built just like europe yeah white people don't go anywhere to
00:15:14.240 like ingratiate with the culture that's there like we're gonna hook you up with the hot shit
00:15:19.560 we're not gonna washington dc looks european if you've been there it's uh i mean in like sixth grade
00:15:26.620 but it has european style buildings like that height of building where it's like a huge block
00:15:31.760 yeah yeah it's like triangle streets or like triangle roads but i would hit that i would hit
00:15:38.460 up when i was there i would tour south america that would sounds fun but you have to know spanish
00:15:42.860 you speak spanish don't you no my wife's fluent oh really yeah just get her to translate you can't
00:15:48.860 just bring her on stage it's like those like deaf and mind fucking just bring her on stage to
00:15:54.040 translate jokes about how having sex with her is boring now that would be fucking incredible
00:16:00.060 you couldn't own a woman more than to be like come translate these jokes where i talk about how
00:16:05.380 trash your pussy is oh i love it i love it yeah we like to um lady i took you to an easter egg hunt and
00:16:13.860 it was brutal it was bad but it was fun but it was you really like what was the brutal part
00:16:20.100 i just it's very like rare that i interact with like a group of people around my age
00:16:27.600 that aren't comics like usually like i'm i like if i go like home to florida or whatever like visit
00:16:34.780 family i'm ready for like the benign conversations and the how are things and the oh i heard the weather
00:16:41.080 is good like i'm used to that kind of shit when i'm with like my family my family's all older than me
00:16:46.260 whatever but it's very the only time i'm around other people in like their 20s and 30s
00:16:51.660 is like in a green room yeah where we're fucking around and having fun oh yeah we're having so much
00:16:58.780 fun just looking at our phones pretending i mean sometimes try not to talk to each other sometimes
00:17:03.220 but sometimes it's fun like if you're there and like other people we know are there or like somebody's
00:17:09.260 excited i couldn't just go to the picnic table and be on my phone yeah my wife would be like
00:17:14.060 come on interact we need to make friends with other people who have kids your wife was okay
00:17:20.500 with not interacting as well a little bit she was honestly she was she was probably tired
00:17:26.680 oh coming here no what at the newborn or the easter egg hunt she had fun but she was all like i think
00:17:34.180 she just liked your wife yeah that was yeah it she like she liked the blonde lady that put the whole
00:17:41.020 thing on she was like i can't hang out with that lady no just like the oh that's so sweet that's
00:17:46.360 so dear and like your lady was like ripping stokes just like it's a baby life all right good like my
00:17:52.500 wife just is like i think it's a northern thing i think a lot of those people are like southern
00:17:56.460 it's like southern bells like they grew up with that like oh hell how how y'all doing like
00:18:01.940 oh just take your take a little piece of cheese and find an egg and you could you could legitimately
00:18:09.080 unannounced knock on any of those people's door right now and drop your kid off and maybe like
00:18:15.560 absolutely it takes a village which is great but you need no you need that but i also hope that they
00:18:21.200 know that will not be reciprocated if they knocked on my door one of them left us a book
00:18:27.420 my dad keeps every time he like hangs out with us or like helps do something he just steals my
00:18:34.400 girl's keys for some reason what do you mean like it's like yeah he drove her from toronto back to
00:18:41.720 like her parents house which is three hours away and then like his like friend helped drive back
00:18:48.360 and then like he just called me after him he's like yeah i just have your wife's keys like all of
00:18:54.300 her keys which is like her car key the house key that rocks pool key and then he came and then he
00:19:02.260 so then he fedexed it he was pissed he was like it's 200 bucks a fedex i'm like we need your fucking
00:19:06.800 key like i don't want to getting lost in the mail like just send it so he sends it and then two weeks
00:19:12.660 later he comes and visits for my the birth of my son and everything was helping out and then he flies
00:19:17.780 home and he calls me from the airport he goes he's already in like chicago or something he's like
00:19:22.560 yeah i have your keys again that's awesome dude yeah my uh my father-in-law came the week that my
00:19:30.220 son was born and my mom came also so it was my mom and my wife's dad my mom's like just typical mom
00:19:37.860 like she was helping out and doing whatever but her dad is like he's a great guy uh he's super racist
00:19:43.320 you'd love him uh but he uh he would just go out every night i'm not that racist guys no no no just
00:19:51.340 for bits yeah sometimes but uh he would like go out every night like he didn't even stay at our
00:19:57.820 place he's got like a hotel and he would just like come by for like an hour and then borrow one of our
00:20:03.660 cars and just go get black out on sixth street he's like 70 years old he's the man dude wow he helped
00:20:09.660 us and didn't help us at all right and then he felt bad for like being down for a week and not helping
00:20:15.340 it all so he just bought us like a weber grill and then that's it was great yeah i was i was
00:20:20.540 i've been looking at one of those where did he buy it did you buy it on amazon i was looking at one
00:20:24.320 it's like 500 bucks but i'm worried it's gonna be shit uh i can tell you what it is when i get home
00:20:29.260 he got it from like lowe's or home depot or whatever yeah but it was it was i could fit that in
00:20:35.280 my car do you think i could fit it in my car two door the one that i have if you could put the can
00:20:41.940 you put the back seats down yeah yeah probably but then i have the fucking car seats in there
00:20:46.540 i mean literally driving around a mustang with two car seats in it yeah watching watching you and your
00:20:51.360 lady get out and then get two kids and a stroller and a car seat is like god out of a mustang god
00:20:58.060 damn uh we have to take my my wife that's like me committed to being like look this might not work
00:21:03.860 out so i gotta keep it yeah it's we're gonna i'm shipping it back to canada and then um figuring
00:21:12.940 out we'll probably bring my girl's car back here which is like a proper vehicle for children my wife
00:21:19.340 has an suv but i have a sedan with dude this is i have a i don't have ac at the moment it's so
00:21:27.100 yeah it's so hot in my car dude that car i have a beamer ac doesn't work tags expired and i don't
00:21:36.080 have insurance and i'm pretty sure there's a term for that it's like something rich it's a word that
00:21:43.040 chinese people say yeah um rich um rich yeah i mean i've i've luckily never done that i'll nuke him
00:21:52.920 when my mom passed away i mean before she passed away when she got dementia i had to like her
00:21:58.860 license expire like they canceled her driver's license and i thought originally like okay well
00:22:05.600 i'll still drive your car or whatever but then like i talked to somebody and they're like no no like
00:22:10.860 it can't be registered in her name anymore because she isn't legally allowed to drive so you have to
00:22:15.800 register your name so it's a whole you have to go through the thing go to the dmv and get like a
00:22:21.160 letter notarized by a lawyer that says that she's transferring it for one dollar like it has to be
00:22:27.200 some amount and then there's a whole thing and it was a toyota matrix like 2011 and i was driving
00:22:33.340 around in canada and just like didn't realize that there was like no insurance on it at one point
00:22:39.140 and the cop was like pulled me over i was literally so when i was this was probably 2022
00:22:45.700 when my daughter was born and i lived in the middle of nowhere with sorry i know if her parents
00:22:51.260 are watching it's i mean it's a beautiful area but it is far away from everything it's like two hours
00:22:56.300 from detroit ish but there's no open mics or comedy and i needed to do comedy and i was at the time i was
00:23:03.520 at like maybe 20k followers 30k trying to grind like yeah you know baby just fucking born kind of
00:23:11.640 where you're at but living in the middle of nowhere exactly where i'm at yeah that's not awesome first
00:23:16.320 for yeah not awesome like middle of nowhere so the only open mics that i could do were london ontario
00:23:22.300 and windsor ontario so i would drive i'm either like windsor from there is like an hour and a half
00:23:27.760 london's like an hour each way so i drive like an hour just to do comedy and um in that fucking
00:23:36.800 toyota matrix and we're just yeah dude i like cars i like i like a shitty car sometimes like a falling
00:23:43.000 apart car it just kind of makes you feel like you're you should have a car with no ac right now
00:23:48.580 yeah no it's i like it but your wife has a nice car yeah she has a very nice car yeah uh i like i like
00:23:55.900 i mean i've had that car the entire time i've been doing comedy that car is like the perfect
00:24:00.040 metaphor for what doing comedy will fucking do to you because when i bought that car i was i was you
00:24:07.100 know working at an ad agency making good money and then i started doing comedy and like it's like such
00:24:13.120 a great metaphor for like this car was once like a very nice respectable bmw and now like the paint's
00:24:20.340 chipping the ac doesn't work they're the windshield's cracked no insurance like that's
00:24:26.500 what comedy will fuck anybody who like messages me and they're like i'm thinking about doing comedy
00:24:30.380 like it's gonna ruin your fucking life depending on how good you want to be like if you want to be
00:24:34.560 shit like i won't or well it could too if you're not willing to dedicate yourself fully like there's
00:24:40.720 something that happens to the universe when you go i want to be the funniest person alive and then
00:24:46.420 they're like okay well your mom's gonna have dementia now yeah and you're you're gonna drive
00:24:50.260 toyota matrix 2011 and you're gonna get pulled over because and you're gonna forget to like or
00:24:55.800 whatever and my buddy was even telling me about this so armin that we were talking on the phone with
00:25:00.780 yeah who has the funny sketches on on ig and you know i've been i was kind of the guy who like saw him
00:25:08.220 at this comedy club that i helped open in toronto that's no longer open it's called the royal comedy
00:25:13.260 theater it was a small comedy club that me and my buddy mike cartis came up with the name it was
00:25:19.140 my buddy matt messaged me out of nowhere his friend used to come to my shows when i did them in the park
00:25:25.760 during lockdown and he so and he's like hey i'm friends with this guy who used to come to your shows
00:25:32.360 and i want us to open a comedy club can you help me out and um anyway so it was great it was a great
00:25:39.360 comedy club and it was actually i started doing a weekly show there and it was selling out every
00:25:43.740 week we were about to start doing two a week like two like every monday two shows and it was all new
00:25:49.560 jokes and it was packed and it was great and then he was like i can't do this anymore it was so fucking
00:25:56.200 annoying that he did that like what a bit like and i had lived at his place for a bit he like he did
00:26:00.600 help me out a lot but then it's like and he was the guy was like you can make a lot of money doing
00:26:04.140 this like he was helping motivate me yeah yeah and then the second i started making money at his club
00:26:08.320 he's like yeah we're closing the whole thing down sorry that sucks but anyway that's where i saw
00:26:12.920 armin and i was like you know come with me to yuck yucks and let's you know come open for me do a
00:26:18.040 guest spots before i even was selling my own tickets i was just doing like i was headlining shows
00:26:23.000 that yuck yucks put on because like i kind of explain how the canadian thing works so yuck yucks has
00:26:29.220 their name brand and they sell tickets based on just being yuck yucks and people know that their comics
00:26:35.080 are funny but aren't necessarily famous yeah so those shows are sold out all the time so you can
00:26:39.280 like work your way up the rank but you start out as a middle act yeah which is you get which is pretty
00:26:45.640 good you do 20 minutes you're basically like the mini headliner yeah yeah and then from there you
00:26:50.800 we call it middle but here we call it they call it feature um right or no the feature is the feature
00:26:57.520 feature is the middle yeah host host feature headliner hosts like in canada the feature is
00:27:04.380 the headliner yeah they do that that's like a theater show here like if you go see like a like
00:27:09.700 i saw burr in like 2021 and he had a forrest shaw who's like a florida comic super funny guy
00:27:15.400 um he had him like host feature so like you cold open but you still do like 2025 and then burr would
00:27:23.540 come out and do an hour but that's like how theater shows but like at here like clubs it's
00:27:28.840 like you have your like 10 minutes up top host to go cold open and do like the club bullshit like
00:27:34.980 don't forget the tip here please keep your table talk to a minimum and then then you try to power
00:27:40.540 through eight minutes of stand-up and then you have like the feature set like obviously the goal is to
00:27:46.560 like headline yeah i fucking love featuring yeah no i love it too you get like the best crowd
00:27:52.040 because they're warmed after the host but like i mean you've headlined more than i have like clubs
00:27:58.220 like you don't have to as a feature you don't have to deal with like check drop dude there's no better
00:28:02.840 feeling really i mean there is obviously but the feeling of freedom of being an unknown comic
00:28:09.480 who has a 20 minute spot on a show and the headliner is also unknown so the audience isn't even
00:28:17.420 going there being like well i don't care about you i'm trying to watch this guy yeah yeah so they're
00:28:21.140 just like i don't i don't know we're just here we're having a good time this guy's funny
00:28:24.560 that and you just have 20 minutes do whatever you want kill that middle feature spot is just like
00:28:29.980 everyone's everyone's warm the whole crowd's warm but they're not they're not tired yet they're not
00:28:35.640 like ready to leave yeah like dude i saw like tim dylan when i would like right before i started
00:28:40.480 doing comedy and like i love tim dylan he's one of the best and the last like five minutes of his set
00:28:46.540 i was even like i'm ready to go home i mean all comedy is yeah for sure when i'm closing like
00:28:53.100 you're still killing but you can see certain people are like they're i mean they're figuring
00:28:56.880 out what their plans are that's why mothership and other comedy clubs in austin sunset are great
00:29:04.960 because they put people's phones away and it does yeah that is nice chill people out it just go my
00:29:09.880 phones i'm not looking at it i don't care and clubs around here understand that you if you're
00:29:15.940 not doing weighted tables if you're not if you have like a bar or something that people have to go walk
00:29:21.680 to you don't have to do the check drop and if you don't have to do check drop you don't have to do a
00:29:25.820 90 minute show like the show that you're on next week that i produce at roscoe's i'm gonna keep that
00:29:31.820 10 minutes 70 minutes it'll be a 70 minute show yeah it's just yeah you mean longer or shorter oh
00:29:38.300 you shorter shorter yeah i would always tell like uh like producers in florida and like even even guys
00:29:43.460 around here like i headlined uh i headlined a like a witch shop you know eddie larsa
00:29:48.660 uh long hair actually just cut all of his hair he produces like really great shows he'd let you
00:29:56.440 headline he let me headline um one of his shows they were fucking great they sell out he does like
00:30:01.120 almost like a it's basically he just like kind of rob don't tell his thing of like secret lineup
00:30:06.100 secret whatever but i did like 25 at the end but there were like seven comics before me this is too
00:30:13.420 long cut four of those motherfuckers and have them on the next one by the time i mean i still had a
00:30:18.460 great set the only way that works is if it's your own show and you're headlining it at the end
00:30:22.260 because you want to do stage time and sometimes i like doing comedy especially because you know i have
00:30:29.160 70 fucking shows coming up or like and he keeps adding shows so it's like 80 shows or you know
00:30:35.620 within from may till january i'm gonna have that many big like shows that were my you know people
00:30:42.360 are coming to see me they're paying good money they're doing the whole thing babysitter whatever
00:30:46.780 transport ubers and you want it to be good so um the best way to practice is going up on these shows
00:30:56.060 late when it's yeah when like all i've been doing the mothership crew show and going up last which is
00:31:02.920 at like midnight the show started at eight yeah oh yeah so there's 15 people there but you're gonna
00:31:07.900 know if you're funny or not oh yeah definitely you can't and i do i also ascribe to the ideology like
00:31:14.660 rogan says like you can't just only do rooms that are half empty because then you're not going to know
00:31:18.480 what it's like to actually kill for a proper room yeah but you need to you need to have both it's like
00:31:22.640 two muscles yes and you need to be able to kill for the like at your show last night there's four
00:31:28.840 there's four people yeah it's like the end of the night people are like okay you know they're passing
00:31:33.320 through like your show is like packed at certain points then it's like yeah towards the end people
00:31:37.680 are gone but i like that i like a show because it's it's not we're talking about like what did
00:31:44.680 what are the nate like what are the it's almost they're not open mics but they're shows but they're
00:31:49.480 not you're not going to see someone specifically you're just going to see it it's a showcase it's
00:31:53.880 a showcase yeah and i like these long showcases where it's like three hours four hours because
00:31:58.320 it really yeah it works it works like the two you want a hot crowd every once in a while because you
00:32:04.700 can you can mix in the new shit with the old shit you know the old shit will hit for a hot crowd so
00:32:11.020 you can throw in the new one and if it hits like the old shit it's good and if it doesn't you either
00:32:16.440 need to work on it or toss it but with like a with like a lighter crowd or like the end of a
00:32:22.840 showcase spot it's like now you have to work on like turning a cold room hot again sometimes you
00:32:29.580 just have to be funny and i think people i think a lot of comics they focus on the material so much
00:32:35.740 that they forget that like it's not the material like when people go to buy tickets for you for real
00:32:41.080 they're not buying tickets because they're like oh just such good material oh he's such a clever
00:32:45.720 writer i mean there is that aspect of it where you know you don't want to be a complete loser
00:32:50.940 dumbass but they want you they like you they think you are funny they think you're funny no matter what
00:32:57.280 you talk about and again that's why you got to go in these fucking rough rooms anyway i think the
00:33:02.560 whole reason i was talking about that originally was because armin his dad like has like is sick now
00:33:07.900 and he like and he like right after he started headlining yeah and i was like if you want and at one
00:33:12.740 point i told him like when i was dealing with all my mom's stuff and like my mom's just like dying and
00:33:17.720 like then i was started like got my girl pregnant and i'm like kid you want to be a headliner you're
00:33:23.080 just gonna get a lot more you're gonna grow up it's gonna suck yeah yeah no as soon as i like
00:33:28.100 dedicated myself to comedy it's like i could not hold a nine to five i've been i've been fired from
00:33:34.100 three jobs since starting comedy just because i all all advertising jobs but just trying to like
00:33:40.440 trying to like it's way cooler to get fired from like a white collarist job yeah like yeah burger king
00:33:46.740 yeah target but all of those types of jobs it's like you can't you can't like you don't have enough
00:33:53.300 like brain bandwidth to deal with that all day and then you have like clients and people emailing you
00:33:59.200 and texting you at night and then to go do stand-ups like you can't you have to like admit
00:34:03.800 that like your days of working like a nine to five and making a good salary are behind you you have to
00:34:10.500 give up on you you have to give up on like this that the fake dream and and focus on the real dream
00:34:17.460 joey diaz talked about it a lot too on his on the on the original church of what's happening now
00:34:22.900 podcast a lot and i would listen to it walking to work and i had such a sick like i had a sick
00:34:28.040 condo that i rented but i'm in toronto bay and dundas if you know where that is in toronto right
00:34:34.600 downtown i was working at brookfield place which is like the nicest office building and it has its
00:34:40.760 own food court in the basement and is connected there's something in toronto called the path
00:34:44.880 because it gets cold in the winter so all the downtown main office buildings are connected
00:34:49.820 underground through like this really nice pathway with a bunch of it's like a mall basically
00:34:55.040 and i'd walk to work and i would listen to the church and i was doing comedy at night and i would
00:35:01.360 just be like you'd be like eventually you just gotta fucking quit your job you gotta just you gotta
00:35:07.100 just be poor be willing to be poor and i did that i got rid of the condo that's when i moved back to
00:35:12.560 my mom's house uh hurt while she was renting to an apartment in toronto spadina and bloor and i moved
00:35:20.260 back there and that's when she you know i found out she fell down the stairs well i found that out
00:35:25.800 that's also why i wanted to move back there she her whole face was black and blue because she was
00:35:30.340 getting hammered and had dementia and she'd be walking the dog and the dog and pull her over and
00:35:35.300 she's just falling and shit fuck man so like i moved back there and just was like i'm gonna take
00:35:40.980 the hit here i'm gonna make no money 200 bucks a week or yeah you know but i i got it up quick
00:35:47.440 because started my own shows i mean originally i had no money because covet happened um and i had to
00:35:55.840 like do random like i was delivering stuff at one point um but delivering booze but comedy stopped for
00:36:04.040 three months in florida for covet yeah that's pretty sick it was i started doing comedy in like
00:36:09.940 december of 2019 yeah and by the whole country shut down like mid-february by the end of april we
00:36:19.260 were we were back doing mics dude like it never happened that's amazing it wasn't like that in
00:36:25.580 toronto it was so i did the first show that had happened in toronto on june 5th which was at the
00:36:32.620 time so i don't know if you remember when chappelle came out with a that little special that was outside in
00:36:38.700 his yeah he was doing like a phone and he was claiming that that was the first comedy show that
00:36:43.240 had happened since pandemic or something like that or i forget what he was claiming but mine was the it
00:36:47.880 was filmed the day before that technically uh or it happened the day before it we didn't film it
00:36:53.860 but um i mean there we did film some stuff jason rouse was there filming shit and uh because the cops
00:37:01.160 were there and bylaw was there and they were trying to make you know they were trying to shut down the
00:37:06.580 show that we did in the park but i forget why i brought that up because whatever we were talking
00:37:13.480 about oh yeah so that was that show i up from february to to june no stand-up at all just pure
00:37:23.180 podcasting and bullshit and i deleted all those podcasts because i just lost my mind like i was just
00:37:30.240 like the chinese i had like a megaphone i was yelling at my neighbors like that's fucking
00:37:37.140 with a megaphone not on the pod but like i was that i kept up there the videos of me yelling at
00:37:41.760 my neighbors because every 7 p.m every day they'd bang pots and pans and i would go i would open the
00:37:47.360 window with a megaphone and go china's infiltrated our government they're causing the lockdown it was
00:37:53.500 kind of fun yeah remember when you weren't allowed to say it came from china no it was insane i mean
00:37:59.100 chinese virus remember when if you said it came from the lab you were a conspiracy theorist right
00:38:04.460 remember that what was weird too is they were like you're if you say you're like i think it came from
00:38:09.500 the coronavirus lab in wuhan and they were like that's a dangerous racist conspiracy theory and
00:38:16.360 you're like all right what's the i don't want to look racist so like what should i think and they
00:38:20.800 were like you know chinese people eat bats right like all right that's probably worse like how is that
00:38:26.480 the less racist way to go like you know chinese people eat weird shit that's what happened it
00:38:31.520 wasn't the lab it's because they eat goofy shit like all right no they got away with it so easily i
00:38:37.440 had a bit about that where i was like oh no we ate a bat but it's just like yeah it's fucking insane
00:38:44.680 that all that happened and the effect it had on comedy but yeah once once fucking like because i quit
00:38:53.240 my job november 2019 four months essentially before the lockdown and i was lucky to do it because i was
00:39:00.660 in commercial real estate office leasing it's like bro nobody was leasing an office it was all
00:39:04.820 they were giving up their leases everyone was working from home and it was crazy oh yeah there
00:39:09.840 were guys that i worked with who were working at starbucks because they their portfolio fell apart
00:39:14.920 but yeah dude you have to like it's not just comedy it's probably a bunch of other shit
00:39:19.620 also but like if you have like this pie in the sky dream like like i was i was talking to my buddy in
00:39:25.520 florida who's like newer newer than i am do you know casey graves he's a good comic he looks like me if i
00:39:31.640 was buff but he uh he was just like he was going through the same shit he's like maybe almost four
00:39:37.780 years in and i was like dude it's gonna you have all the boxes checked right like you produce your own
00:39:43.220 shows you write new jokes you get as much stage time as you can handle uh you know you you make
00:39:50.100 content you do all that shit you have all the boxes checked now you have to keep all of those boxes
00:39:55.660 checked for another like eight years yeah you just have to suffer for like a decade if you want this
00:40:02.780 shit to work it is like i'm glad i didn't start now because when i started i started comedy in 2011 and
00:40:07.820 by like there was no social media comics the only in canada specifically in toronto though you know
00:40:16.660 there was comics like dave merhege and um you know a few other guys who had cbc and matt o'brien who
00:40:24.340 you know they were on the canadian broadcasting channel and ctv and they had these like comedy
00:40:29.820 specials that were produced by basically the government and that was like the be-all end-all they
00:40:35.680 were getting writing gigs for other canadian shows and stuff so that felt like okay i always knew
00:40:41.600 like i want that seems retarded like i want to do something bigger than that like i want to be like
00:40:45.560 a you know at the time like a bill burr or some you know comics that i would go see at a yeah big
00:40:50.600 theater russell peters or whatever but those are the guys that you looked up to as an open miker
00:40:55.880 touring comic yeah oh it's crazy who you look up to as an open miker comic the guys who like i would
00:41:02.180 look up to guys who like hosted the improv yeah and then like you do stand up for another like
00:41:07.780 six months you're like that guy's dog shit dude there was a guy named joel west when i started
00:41:12.660 comedy it was just like this weird old like gay bald guy that was like moroccan he kind of no he's
00:41:22.060 like a moroccan like fat old version of it no he wasn't even version of he was just he was a bald but
00:41:27.560 anyway he like i remember i did this little documentary of me going around to all these like
00:41:33.580 comedy shows because i was killing like i was funny still i really wish there was social media
00:41:38.260 when i was 23 25 doing yeah because i would have probably blown up in a more matt rifey type of way
00:41:45.560 because i was you know thinner well hopefully we got thin again fucking get back to being a good
00:41:50.320 looking comic we'll see let's go dude but like 20 when i was 24 and thin doing comedy like there was
00:41:56.800 no i should have been on social media but looking back the way people treated me was crazy
00:42:01.420 especially for how like i was like a cute kid young guy fucking doing comedy wasn't a loser wasn't a
00:42:09.580 retard and like people would just be like yeah well it's gonna be a tough road for you like people
00:42:15.000 people are mean when you start comedy people are super mean when you start comedy they should be
00:42:19.340 though if they're not then you're not gonna make it no i mean the i remember like being outside of an
00:42:23.740 open mic like maybe eight months in and this girl walked out and she was like i think i'm just gonna
00:42:29.120 stop doing this i'm done like i i just i'm not having fun nobody books me and like these two like
00:42:35.120 of course like white knight like kind of faggots were like no like you just gotta stick with them
00:42:39.740 like let her go yeah she's not built for this she she's bombing open mics which like just quit which
00:42:45.940 is just that's the first year of comedy by the way it's just bombing open mics you have to enjoy it
00:42:50.340 you have to enjoy that one little moment where one guy was like yeah yeah you you you just stare
00:42:56.100 at that guy for five minutes and do your material like that's that's what the first like the first
00:43:01.080 six months of comedy is just begging for a laugh that's all it is that's why you have to start so
00:43:05.480 early because that like coddling of a new comic is like let her go who gives a shit like when i started
00:43:11.980 i was 19 so i had a lot of leeway to be shit i remember i did this one there was this crazy guy
00:43:17.440 that i i was friends with a guy who um like we were in the same dorm and he was friends
00:43:26.100 in kingston ontario when i went to queens and he was friends with a guy who went to like the
00:43:31.360 community college in the same town he's like black dude who was just he was like a part of like a club
00:43:37.140 promoter and stuff he's like come do this like i'm working the bar at this you just do it working
00:43:42.440 a bar at this fucking place that was right by the water in kingston by the harbor and it was
00:43:49.160 empty it was a weird it was almost like a snack shop for like the sailing club or something like
00:43:54.780 it was barely a bar there was one guy there him and i did and like i advertised it i was like gonna
00:44:01.140 be here like you know 19 thinking like so you do it you know yeah for sure make a post on your
00:44:06.460 personal facebook and you know you get people out nobody came and i just bombed and i swear to god
00:44:14.580 i just did like i think i did at one point i was like i'm just gonna do a richard prior bit like i
00:44:18.900 said that like i was like i'm gonna try a richard prior bit fuck it i'm 19 yeah who gives a shit who
00:44:23.920 cares cares so you have to it's it's tough when people start later because you're you're an adult
00:44:30.060 and you're being scrutinized i started at 28 yeah i started like still young but it's like it's young it
00:44:35.900 was like i mean i was a big like comedy fan like my whole life and i always like wanted to do it
00:44:41.160 and then i started listening to like comedy podcasts and they were always like it takes
00:44:44.800 five years to make a good comic it takes 10 years to make you a headliner and at like 28 i was like
00:44:50.660 all right like you can't start this at fucking 35 like you have to if you don't do this now it's not
00:44:58.100 gonna it's never gonna happen so it was just this like i started fairly late but i don't the
00:45:05.280 saddest people in the world are the dudes who show up to like a new faces or some shit and they're
00:45:11.020 like 60 and they're like well my kids finally moved out and i you know it's always been a dream of mine
00:45:16.340 it's like you waited 35 years too long man you waited way too long you do have to sacrifice things
00:45:23.600 like even you know i have a family you have a family but there's you know daddy's gotta go
00:45:28.820 somewhere daddy's not gonna be able to go to the splash pad right now no yeah daddy's gotta
00:45:34.860 sit in a room and talk about the n-word or whatever whatever it is or just focus and you know you're
00:45:43.720 gone at night you're doing comedy you might sometimes you need a schmooze so you're gonna
00:45:48.200 have to get a little drunk you're gonna have to have a few drinks you're gonna have to hang out you're
00:45:52.060 gonna smell like cigarettes you're gonna be coming home 2 a.m you're gonna want to sleep in
00:45:56.920 and you need a partner like that's that's cool with that like and a lot of people want to pretend
00:46:02.300 like oh you oh once you have a family it's really hard not because number one you're not worried
00:46:08.360 about getting pussy yeah that's nice that takes a lot of time away yeah from i was engaged i got
00:46:15.340 engaged like maybe i don't know probably four months into comedy yeah so like i was that the pussy
00:46:23.160 thing was off the table from the beginning it did especially like you want to get a little bit of
00:46:28.740 that yeah i mean that would have been that would have been nice but that was off the table from
00:46:33.500 the beginning but that's good though i also like my wife rules like she gets it she gets it like
00:46:38.900 last night i did i gotta go to that place early to like do the lights and do all that shit i leave
00:46:45.780 the house at like 6 30 i don't get home till like midnight and she tell them we got some austin
00:46:49.760 listeners yeah i mean go to fucking go to bulls pub on thursdays ben'll be there i'll be there
00:46:55.580 it's good we fuck around it's it's actually a chill time like if you like comics who want to come to
00:47:01.120 like a actual show and then they're like lining up for the meet and greets like you could just come
00:47:05.020 to bulls but actually there was one of my fans randomly was there last night for a guy from
00:47:09.640 montreal he just randomly went to a bar and was like oh the blonde guy yeah yeah he ruled yeah he was
00:47:14.680 cool dude he stayed the whole show um yeah he's a good dude french canadians are pretty chill
00:47:19.140 ben's usually there every week i'll be there every week we i don't book shit comics uh cam
00:47:25.060 patterson dropped in yesterday yeah it's a good show it's worth drop it's worth it's a good little
00:47:30.360 and it looks like a legit like british pub inside yeah it looks good looks like texas outside looks
00:47:37.780 like texas the car that's like where all the cops like hang out yeah and there's a good like the first
00:47:42.880 like five comics get a really good room yeah it'll it'll pack out it's just uh keeping people there
00:47:49.040 it's tough because it's a free show so they're like i can leave whatever i want yeah but what
00:47:53.040 was the point of that the um people hang out i forget what the yeah just to go you got it like
00:47:59.040 my wife oh yeah you got it oh yeah you got it like she gets up at she has to be like on a meeting at
00:48:04.180 5 a.m every day so she gets up at like 4 50 goes to the office like boots up her computer like she's
00:48:10.540 she works from 5 a.m to 3 p.m every day she makes she makes great money but she also understands that
00:48:18.000 like like yesterday 5 to 3 normal fans why i had to do this at 3 30 and then as soon as she was done
00:48:25.500 with work i was i chilled with her and the baby for a little bit i was like i gotta go and be gone for
00:48:29.200 six hours you're gonna get four hours of sleep tonight and she's like okay like she just she gets
00:48:35.680 it like she moved to texas like she knows the drill you know what i mean like if i have a show
00:48:40.140 or i have whatever she'll like like yesterday she's like i'll nap during the day so that i'm not
00:48:46.080 too tired by the time you get home whatever like she'll work around it like you need you need that
00:48:52.440 like having a family like right now i have a newborn you have a newborn so like leaving like
00:48:57.900 the state right now is kind of off the table but it won't be in like a month i mean the one thing is
00:49:04.360 like the single guys have advantages they don't have to be like okay everybody out of the house
00:49:09.320 so i can do a pod or every or like managing that but they have the disadvantage of like they're gonna
00:49:17.120 go out on a friday after a show and get hammered try to get pussy the whole time fail or they're
00:49:23.780 gonna get pussy and then that person's gonna be like oh you're famous and like cause some sort of
00:49:27.720 problem for them sure and then and then just like the dudes who are at like more like my level
00:49:33.900 of like you there's no fire there like i have to make this work i moved my family now family
00:49:42.700 she was pregnant when she moved but like i moved my family to texas my wife works a shitty work
00:49:49.660 schedule like i have to make this work if you're like 27 and single and like you just have like a
00:49:55.700 roommate and whatever it's like you don't really have to grind that hard there's nothing in the back
00:49:59.920 of your head that's like i gotta make this work yeah kind of kick it for a little bit you can be
00:50:04.720 cool with just like making working a day job and making 200 bucks a week on showcase spots
00:50:09.920 and just being like i'm on sunset this week yeah like you can just live off of that high if you want
00:50:15.900 whereas like i put all my eggs into this basket it has to work i have to find a way to like build an
00:50:21.580 audience yeah and do whatever so there there are advantages to like having a family having a wife
00:50:27.520 because i know in like five years if i'm not making any sort of a living off of this she's like what
00:50:32.780 the fuck are you doing like i have to make this work now before i had my first born i felt like i had
00:50:38.900 a lot more time to get things done i was like what 29 right before she was born 20 yeah 30 when she was
00:50:45.200 born so i was like i got time i'm only 20 and then you realize like oh fuck i got a lot of shit to pay
00:50:50.880 i remember my mother-in-law saying to me like oh it might be time for you to get a real job like
00:50:57.220 because i wasn't making that much money i was getting some like the most money i had made before
00:51:03.120 i started selling my own tickets really was um in one shot was like 1600 canadian which is like
00:51:10.880 1100 bucks maybe american or something and it was a weekend of shows in newfoundland
00:51:19.060 which i don't even know if you know where that is i mean yeah it's just like a place yeah it's kind
00:51:24.240 of i think isn't newfoundland famous because on 9 11 a bunch of like american planes got stranded
00:51:30.020 there and they were all really nice to them and stuff so that was like part of it but part of the
00:51:34.900 lore for americans for for newfoundland but i went and i was like so excited and i actually scrolled was
00:51:40.820 scrolling back to that time and saw the promo i did for it and i had maybe the shows were sold out
00:51:46.980 because it was a yuck like a yuck yucks thing but i had maybe 10 15 fans at each show and there was
00:51:53.140 maybe like 200 people at each show yeah so i was like okay well you know that's like progress whatever
00:51:57.960 um and and then i realized like oh i gotta work way harder i gotta post way more i gotta
00:52:05.000 engage with just thing my fans like you know even now it's like another level where i've realized
00:52:13.380 oh the podcast has to work because i can't just be a fucking touring comic forever that i mean i can
00:52:18.840 but if you don't have that other layer of the podcast is good so people are buying tickets from
00:52:24.960 your podcast not necessarily just instagram reels yeah because right now people are buying them from
00:52:29.760 instagram reels which is great and shows are selling out in toronto and canada and like new york
00:52:35.600 big markets la um texas is doing really well the other markets boston but you need to like your
00:52:43.980 average joe is listening to podcasts and if you're not in that like you said you're not on that fucking
00:52:48.480 list they're not buying your tickets and then your shows aren't selling out either and patreon you know
00:52:55.180 like if you if not just like if you get a hundred thousand views that's ad revenue that's um youtube revenue
00:53:01.780 so and like that guy i talked about the fucking jew being like like i'll never help you like it's like
00:53:09.660 well yeah i can see why because i'm not doing something right i need to be creating more value
00:53:14.340 and that's what it's all about i mean i you know i'm in the same boat i moved my family here
00:53:19.180 i i originally the the for me it was moving my family to toronto my girl had never even lived in
00:53:24.560 toronto like she lived in a small town um and was afraid of toronto then she came to toronto she's like
00:53:30.200 oh i love it i love this it's amazing and then was scared oh no we're gonna move to austin i'm scared
00:53:35.820 to move to austin then oh fuck i love it it's great so um and i had to pay what was like 15 or 10 or 15
00:53:43.800 grand for like the visa to be able to move here too so right away a lot of comics who were getting
00:53:51.080 the success i was getting at that time when i applied for the visa even though they had u.s people
00:53:56.240 they'd be like maybe i'll just keep doing canada and then it's like you're doing edmonton three times
00:54:02.180 a year like eventually that's people are going to be like this is we don't care anymore yeah you can't
00:54:06.100 hit the same market more than once a year those people are going to be like you can't write it twice
00:54:11.860 a year three hours a year if it's your main spot you can do it multiple times a year if you have the
00:54:16.140 volume sure yeah or if you're coming up with new material which i try to do and i try to push myself
00:54:21.400 like i came out with a special people talk mad shit so a lot of people like the special but people
00:54:25.760 will be like oh it wasn't as good as the other ones it's like dude i was it was i was drunk in
00:54:30.380 tampa and we had a i spent seven hundred dollars on a guy to film it i was like fuck it i'll make it
00:54:35.660 a special like it gives a fuck what am i a lot of comedy now is people competing with their themselves
00:54:43.780 and their own thoughts where it's like there's other comics who've gotten to where they are
00:54:51.980 in ways that it seems like well if i don't do it that way then i'm selling myself short or i'm not
00:54:58.020 legit yeah i'm not doing it the right way yeah like it's like because not everybody can be
00:55:03.700 a you know a shane or whatever where it's like you got snl you got dumped and then he
00:55:10.000 you know blew up this way that and and and not everybody can be a schultz or not everybody can
00:55:15.260 be whatever comic but you have to carve your way and it's a fight especially like you said you have
00:55:21.180 your kids you're like you're not gonna you're you're in your 30s now what are you gonna do you're
00:55:24.780 just gonna wait around and hope and pray and those those can't get better at your actual stand up
00:55:30.820 if you're not willing to post the shit and be like i'm willing to never do that again
00:55:35.120 sure yeah because then you'll just be one of those guys and yuck yucks has tons of those guys and
00:55:40.220 america like has way more of those guys than you oh those guys are those guys are everywhere those
00:55:44.880 guys doing the same bits from 2008 i don't want to burn material and it's like yo how long is an
00:55:51.020 instagram reel 45 seconds you can't dude i'll trade any joke i have for a million views yeah easily
00:55:57.900 yeah then you're done like my best joke whatever it may be if it hit like a million and i couldn't
00:56:05.160 do it anymore also like dog if you if you post a fucking bit and it goes viral and then people
00:56:11.540 want to come see you do you think they really give a fuck if they recognize a minute of your hour
00:56:17.240 they don't give a shit people don't care i did a i did a weekend in tampa you should have coastal
00:56:23.000 creative that place is fucking awesome but uh place that like sells it's a club it's yeah it's
00:56:29.100 in it's in saint pete close to tampa but uh they like basically sell their own tickets and they put
00:56:34.380 people like me up people who like they know are funny and have the time but like don't have an
00:56:38.720 audience and uh i mean you do have a bit of an audience now you're at 40k a little bit yeah a
00:56:45.260 little bit but uh this lady after the show like i was taking pictures with people and this lady after
00:56:51.500 the show because the the place is like an event space so they have a comedy club they have a
00:56:55.740 concert hall and then they have like three or four banquet halls and the green room is right next to
00:57:00.560 one of the banquet halls and there was like 300 it was like a dentist convention like a south floor
00:57:06.200 or like west coast of florida oh yeah so like there's other rooms in this in this like it's like
00:57:11.840 an event space like comedy club is that kind of like um the one in houston what's it called
00:57:16.980 i don't know um art center or no you know the comedy club i'm talking about in houston where
00:57:23.840 there's multiple no there's like multiple rooms that's where skank fest was at one point oh no i've
00:57:30.860 i've never been there whoever knows what i'm talking about comment but uh people were like taking
00:57:35.340 pictures with me after the show and show packs out did like 250 and this lady walks up and she's like
00:57:42.500 why is everyone taking pictures with you and i was like oh i just did a show and she was like oh
00:57:49.380 what kind of show and i was like the comedy show what are you here for and she was like i was here
00:57:54.080 for the comedy show i was like i'm the i was like i'm i was the guy i was the guy who went last and did
00:58:01.840 the longest i've been off stage for 10 minutes at this point and she's like why are you who what did
00:58:08.560 you do here i was like i was the comedian you just watched me for 45 minutes people really are that
00:58:13.780 out of it though they're but that's what i mean with like the like i don't want to burn material it's
00:58:17.520 like yo this lady watched me do a full 45 they don't know 10 minutes later was like who are you
00:58:22.620 yeah this is the guy that was lit on stage for like what the fuck are you talking about the burning
00:58:28.080 the material thing is for us it's for comics and yeah it's for it only comics notice that shit dude
00:58:33.680 i've done i used to do and you only bring one guy on the road so yeah like who gives a fuck but
00:58:39.080 really the audience like if you're doing shows and you're crap and you're selling out your crowd
00:58:44.080 and you're fucking specialized hundreds of thousands of views or millions of views and people are coming
00:58:49.460 going dude that's literally i've seen all this shit what the fuck is that that's an issue that's
00:58:53.980 different but if you're like in a fucking pinch and you're like yeah here's one from six years ago
00:58:58.560 just remembered right now for no reason yeah maybe there's a clip of it if somebody dug deep
00:59:03.280 and scrolled for 15 minutes and even if that clip went viral a month ago like if it's one minute
00:59:11.340 of a fucking 45 to an hour long set even if people recognize it in the audience they're not going to
00:59:18.440 give a fuck in fact they'll be excited they might be like i've seen this one yeah one guy might care
00:59:23.320 one guy might be happy but even when i was just it's kind of a separate topic but similar in terms of
00:59:29.040 you know creating your the vibe you want to create so i think a lot of comics get caught in shit and
00:59:37.040 that's like even with me it's like for me it's like the chinese or like the olivia chow people are like
00:59:41.240 bro just do olivia or like before that i used to do a monkey face filter i don't know if you ever saw me
00:59:46.240 do that but i've seen the olivia chow a lot yeah but like the monkey face filter olivia chow on other
00:59:51.980 people's pages right which is sick i like if other i almost rather other people post it as long as
00:59:57.900 they tag me and some people come follow me but i don't get as many followers from those as different
01:00:01.960 as like stand-up clips sure or podcast clips but people i used to do this monkey face filter from
01:00:09.820 snapchat and i would do a chinese accent because the whole thing was playing on this story that came
01:00:14.360 out in 2021 or two about um you know uh the in wuhan they made monkeys that were half human half
01:00:24.980 animal or half human half monkey hybrid and so i and they were in china so i assumed you know
01:00:32.100 i'm the half human and i had the chinese accent and i would do some i had a couple of them go over a
01:00:37.700 million views because i did it in an airport on um martin luther king day or something or crazy
01:00:43.120 and i was just like doing the chinese accent walking around the airport being like
01:00:50.480 this uh oh it's juneteenth it was a happy juneteenth oh the bright people
01:00:55.020 and shit like that but like and it was funny but i don't you know what i mean like i want people to
01:01:01.360 like me for me at the end of the day maybe that's narcissistic but or maybe it's but it's it's it's it's
01:01:07.900 you you want to be an artist you don't want to just be a one-trick pony on any type of thing i have
01:01:12.940 the same thing where like i'll post videos of me like doing a gay character and then i'll get like
01:01:17.740 a good amount i got i got one to like hit really hard did like like eight million views and then
01:01:24.160 i did uh i did bricktown tulsa and i have a bit where i'm like you know i don't my wife asked me
01:01:33.220 how how would you feel if our kid turned out to be gay and i was like i don't i don't think it would
01:01:37.280 bother me to have a gay kid i feel like having a gay kid's a lot like having an android phone
01:01:41.020 like i don't care if you have an android text me it pops up green i won't judge you but like
01:01:46.740 i don't want one and i posted that and that did well but then i got a bunch of comments from people
01:01:53.660 being like i can't believe you did this i just followed you for your last video where i was
01:02:00.040 acting like a gay guy so a bunch of gay people followed me right the next clip is me being like
01:02:05.140 you can have a gay kid that's awesome but the for the real fans they're like they were like yeah i
01:02:12.920 get it but i have like i have videos of me like acting racist i have videos of me like acting like
01:02:19.140 you know acting like a gay guy farting cum weirdly my biggest video video of you farting cum
01:02:24.620 no it's a video of me acting like i fart there's no comment there but uh it's it's me acting like i'm
01:02:30.800 farting cum like people will still like i'll post a stand-up clip and the comments will be like there
01:02:35.360 go his babies because that's like the line at the end of the right but you know i'll post a clip of
01:02:40.940 me acting gay i'll post like a racist clip or whatever and it's like i don't i don't want like
01:02:46.940 a racist following i don't want uh too late for me i i want people who get it i want people to
01:02:54.420 understand that like i'm just fucking around this is funny i don't want people to like follow me and
01:02:58.900 think that i'm like this gay icon comedian it's like no go watch the other videos i'm clearly not
01:03:03.860 that yeah i also don't want people who are like following me to be like yeah this guy fucking
01:03:08.320 we should kick him out of the country yeah that's not i'm just fucking around also but then you know
01:03:14.080 i would say like the majority of people who watch it get it and that's really like if if one video
01:03:20.320 does well and brings in a group of people if the next one kind of shaves off the ones that don't get
01:03:26.520 that fine yeah no that's something that i am you know because once you have the kids and stuff and
01:03:33.020 then you start getting like or you have a following you're making money you're like okay what do i have
01:03:38.480 to say to make sure this doesn't go away but that's not art no then you're then you're just
01:03:43.320 like commercialized to the point and you're not even rich enough to be doing that like you know
01:03:47.680 what i mean like if somebody gave me 70 million or 10 million or even a million was like i'm giving
01:03:52.760 you a million dollars but no more talking about whatever i'd be like yeah all right yeah for a
01:03:59.320 million bucks sure you know people want to shit on uh bill burr i'd be like he changed it's like dude
01:04:04.780 his priorities change he's rich if i was that rich i wouldn't be like mad about immigration anymore kind
01:04:10.940 of always been that guy yeah he really hasn't changed that he never was like left or he was never
01:04:17.320 right he was never right wing at all he just would complain about people being losers he was just angry
01:04:22.440 and white yeah so people thought he was right wing you know like his special from like 2012 he was
01:04:28.580 talking about how like he was talking about like weird white people in race relations and like he's
01:04:33.360 talking about white people mostly like being shitty and and always like the the blowing up of the cruise
01:04:39.200 ships that's all white people stuff but my point is that when people go oh he changed it's like dude he
01:04:45.300 made money like let you should you should change you should go and make money yeah if being a millionaire
01:04:50.740 and then getting married and having kids doesn't change you you're fucking weird you're insane you're
01:04:55.380 a crazy person and that's my thing too where i'm like i you i think initially when you're gonna start
01:05:03.600 being yourself sometimes you're gonna take a hit sure so for me like i put out a video today where
01:05:10.860 i try it's it's funny and people definitely like it but it's not gonna be it's not gonna be viral
01:05:16.720 it's not gonna be but people will be like oh i like this guy maybe or maybe it's shit but then
01:05:22.200 you have to make that choice where it's do i just delete this and pretend like it never happened and
01:05:26.160 i'm an i'm a loser and i fucked up or do you just leave it you just leave it and then in two weeks
01:05:30.860 finally it hits 10k views and when somebody's scrolling this go that one's 10k this was nobody
01:05:35.460 cares no i mean dude it's it's they'll care they want you to do good they want you to they want to
01:05:41.000 laugh you want to go to go to your favorite comic who actually like not like a burr someone like
01:05:46.440 like a shane but somebody who actually like a like i love jordan jensen i think she's fucking
01:05:51.000 incredible she's one of the best comics working she she'll post she'll post like three clips a week
01:05:57.260 go through her page she'll have like she has like i think 700 800 000 followers
01:06:02.300 it's not uncommon for her to have a clip that does 40k to get like five percent of her following
01:06:10.280 has seen it it's like yeah people flop like your videos will sometimes flop to delete it
01:06:16.680 what's the point of deleting it like it doesn't do anything be like nobody saw that yeah nobody saw
01:06:24.380 it's like go through any people who are judging you for that aren't real fans too they're not the
01:06:29.120 people buying tickets they're not the people rooting for you they're the people rooting for
01:06:32.260 your downfall yeah so who gives a fuck what they think and go through the rest of your fucking page
01:06:37.580 i have other videos with i have dozens of videos with millions of views it's like yeah this one
01:06:44.020 did 5k tomorrow they might do and i might put something tomorrow you might learn something from
01:06:50.820 that format oh you want to try a new format maybe it isn't going to do a million views right away but
01:06:55.060 then you the next one you do with that format it's gonna do better and like um you know there's
01:07:00.740 like podcasts where the podcast itself has tens of thousands of views and then a clip from it
01:07:07.180 gets 10k yeah but who cares because the actual podcast has 30 000 people watching it the whole
01:07:14.460 thing comments hundreds of comments long form content viewership so who gives a shit and like
01:07:21.640 my old podcast i used to run a podcast with two dudes around here we had a podcast for like two years
01:07:26.940 and uh we had like the inverse problem we would we would get like audio and video we would get around
01:07:33.220 like like 2300 like at our best but the clips would go viral and it was like all right we'll just have
01:07:39.680 the inverse that's where i'm a podcast that doesn't really necessarily like have a crazy amount of
01:07:44.980 viewership and listenership but we can pull clips from it every week that gets followers and then from
01:07:50.520 that those filter down to people watching it it's a fucking business it's a grind and the
01:07:56.760 people who the horowitz guy and other haters and people who want to just be like like i'll say
01:08:03.460 something about politics people like you shouldn't stay in comedy it's like bro comedy is about paul it's
01:08:08.940 political now comedy is about whatever i can say anything my com you don't have to be an expert
01:08:14.360 clearly my thoughts filtered through my lens of whatever the fuck it is right i get like i hate when a
01:08:21.340 comic gets political it's like like i mean i i felt that way about a certain amount of comics that got
01:08:26.720 super liberal like around covid and whatever only only if they got liberal you're like i hate this
01:08:31.480 guy now well there were there were liberals who like they become constrictive started like grandstanding
01:08:36.520 it's like you were making poop jokes a year ago but it's also like yeah but that's what they think now
01:08:41.240 that's those are the thoughts that are going around in their head it is weird when like it is liberal
01:08:46.580 comics liberal comics fuck themselves because they would be like they were pro censorship and they
01:08:52.180 didn't realize that like i or a right-wing comic would be like oh you're funny you want to come
01:08:56.600 do my show and then they won't do it because they're worried of the backlash they'll get from
01:09:00.520 their like community of other loser comics to coming and it's like so i'm not discriminating you
01:09:07.020 yeah your own friends are the ones just potentially discriminating you for stepping out of line
01:09:12.640 but i can never do your show i'll never get invited and even and if i did no right-wing guy is
01:09:17.920 gonna be like bro you would actually go and do that they'd be like that's hilarious that you did
01:09:21.620 that yeah good for them for letting you go and do that people also gotta stop fucking especially like
01:09:26.820 i mean you're at a different level where like you're selling your own tickets but even then like
01:09:31.220 you're selling your own tickets based off of just your own shit it's your own like social media presence
01:09:36.640 and podcasts and that kind of thing i think like people even people like someone like yourself or like
01:09:42.260 anybody at my level people gotta stop worrying about like canceled shit yeah like oh like i've
01:09:47.840 had i've had people in my comments like not comics but people in my comments like bro you're gonna
01:09:51.960 get canceled from this shit it's like canceled from what dog doing showcases at roscoe's what the fuck
01:09:58.480 are you talking about maybe no but they're cool with me there there is uh what am i gonna get
01:10:05.160 canceled dude people live such depressing lives that they just want to strike the fear of god into
01:10:11.300 people that they think don't have the fear of god in them so they see somebody with like a free spirit
01:10:16.200 just being like fuck it i'm gonna hopefully make money off just saying whatever the fuck i want
01:10:19.840 doing stand-up and living my life and they're like bro it might all go away that could like i had
01:10:25.720 people being like i i said something about which wasn't even really pro-israel i was just saying that
01:10:29.900 candace owens let down a lot of old jewish men who liked her because when she was on ben shapiro
01:10:35.520 old jews were like oh candace she's good looking this is a hot piece of chocolate yeah and like
01:10:41.040 they were and i made a comment like they were becoming less racist and for some reason that
01:10:45.640 video got a ton of views and it was being shown to people who hate that kind of content which is
01:10:50.620 part of what social media is but they were coming on and then there were people who are followers of
01:10:56.060 mine but agree with her like to the point where they're like i can't be a fan of you if you don't
01:11:01.080 agree with her and it's like bro like i don't even know what i what i don't agree with watching her
01:11:08.060 because it's to me that would be crazy like who's watching a full episode of any of that yeah i've
01:11:14.260 seen clips of like shapiro and and like candace owens and whoever and it's like who the fuck is
01:11:21.360 watching a full hour it's for boomers really and or just like really really poor insane people but
01:11:27.260 some guy messaged me and was like you know i used to think you were cool and then i found out you're
01:11:31.920 jewish and i think that you're just going on a terrible trajectory now and i was like
01:11:37.420 bro what the that's great like to say that to somebody is insane yeah that's a crazy thing like
01:11:42.680 like i've i've been fans of things my whole life i've never once tried to reach out in a maybe in a
01:11:50.420 positive light like i've done things like when i for comics that i was like fans of i was like
01:11:54.680 love everything you do you know when i was 23 or whatever but drunkenly dm'd a bunch of nba players
01:12:01.920 and been like you're shit or you're sick no i i have i sent a full paragraph to bam at a bio who's
01:12:08.880 like the all-star center for the miami heat and i've been like i also grew up with a single mother
01:12:13.860 brother well that's just kind of cool too because that's people's like outlet and that's like their
01:12:19.420 therapy in a way is like yo i look up to this guy and i tried recently today i spent two hours
01:12:24.880 going through all my messages because i have so many backlog of dms just like the request when i posted
01:12:30.240 like my marriage and my son's birth people like congrats mazel tov whatever and i have to go
01:12:36.300 through and um and i didn't and when you go through there are some of those paragraphs where people
01:12:41.680 like bro like i literally was in the hospital i thought i was gonna die and i saw one of your
01:12:45.740 videos and it just like made me feel better or like shit and you you should respond to those people
01:12:51.080 because they matter yeah yeah those people care i correspond with like there's a girl in canada
01:12:55.400 actually who's like your videos like legitimately are one of the few things that make me happy
01:13:02.040 yeah like that's fucking cool yeah like that's a cool thing that's but there is like the gary
01:13:07.320 vaynerchuk you know gary vaynerchuk yeah dude that guy's a fucking retard yeah but he has some good
01:13:12.460 advice sometimes dude that one of his fucking like i hate that dude for a fucking personal reason
01:13:19.340 he also just does like personal reason yes but he uh like he just says stupid shit like
01:13:24.940 you should be taking pictures of your house and turning them into nfts for the metaverse like
01:13:30.020 shut the fuck up what once nft his nft once that shit started going around his advice started getting
01:13:35.920 really stupid i think but there was like a full year where he was like start the next big thing you
01:13:41.760 got to start buying real estate in the metaverse like the sims what do you mean yeah i'm not but i don't
01:13:47.400 i don't like that dude because he was uh this is like back in like 2018 when like tiktok was like
01:13:53.420 brand new and he did this like seminar for a uh for whatever reason the ad agency i worked at
01:14:00.600 had a bunch of jewelry clients i don't know how they fell into that niche but they did i had like
01:14:05.400 20 clients of my own that were all just jewelry stores and brands and like a lot of that yeah a lot
01:14:12.440 a lot of a lot of budget negotiations but we uh the he spoke at like this convention
01:14:19.180 every fucking client of mine was like i think i gotta start doing you need to start making tiktoks
01:14:24.780 for my business and like i would have to pull up like statistics and especially in like 2018 2019
01:14:31.080 i was like they're less than five percent of the people who are on tiktok at that point in time
01:14:37.320 are over the age of 25 you sell the cheapest thing you sell is like a ten thousand dollar bracelet
01:14:45.460 who the fuck is 25 and can buy that like don't focus on what like you don't have the budget for
01:14:52.340 another thing and just i had to he had i had to talk down so many like retarded 50 year old jewish dudes
01:14:58.940 from being like gary vanyuchuk said that tiktok is very important like yeah go dance in your store
01:15:03.440 go do go do a gay little dance with your jewelry on i don't give a shit there was one maybe that guy
01:15:09.220 you know that one jewelry store in new york that's quite popular on instagram and tiktok where the guy
01:15:15.660 gives away like gold bars and stuff like he'll literally be like what's your favorite color or
01:15:20.700 something and they'll just answer and he'll be like here's a thousand dollar piece of gold no and it's
01:15:25.840 like super viral but it's pretty sick that's i think that but every business you know gary's right
01:15:31.320 though every business does need it you're a plumber you should be making fucking tiktoks you're screwing
01:15:35.720 shit content yeah my only issue was these people were on the phone with me every week telling me that
01:15:41.400 like you needed to make it i needed to make it but also like you got billed by billable hours and
01:15:47.640 it's like i can't you want me to make content that you're already bitching that you that your budget
01:15:53.740 is stretched too thin you want to stretch your already thin budget to an app that at the time
01:15:58.660 none of your target demo is on right nobody nobody who can afford the shit that you sell
01:16:05.060 is on was on tiktok in 2018 tiktok's so big with boomers now though it's crazy oh it's huge it's big
01:16:10.640 now now i would be like well now i would just repurpose the shit that they do for this was like
01:16:15.740 around the time that like instagram reels like even came out so i would have been like now i just like
01:16:21.260 yeah we'll just repurpose it it'll take me five minutes just take the videos and put them there
01:16:26.280 but at the time i was like dude we're not doing tiktok it's a waste of fucking time and it was at
01:16:30.720 that point in time but gary gary v just says dumb shit like the nft shit the metaverse dog what the
01:16:39.080 fuck are you talking about that was a that was the thing when i started comedy there were a lot of like
01:16:43.100 older dudes who were telling me like you're gonna do comedy in the middle i was like i'll fucking kill
01:16:48.220 myself if i have to do vr comedy i'm gonna fucking kill myself i think those comics were hoping that
01:16:53.040 would be the future so that they could just do comedy from their house and not have to do comedy
01:16:59.000 properly anymore yeah for sure but the one gary vaynerchuk thing that i stuck with me that i like
01:17:04.740 is you shouldn't let the positive comments affect you or the or the negative because if like the positive
01:17:11.660 ones bring you up the negative ones are going to bring you right down so you need to stay in the
01:17:16.520 middle so i think that that's a good piece of advice because we get a lot and i'm guilty of
01:17:21.700 this shit like sometimes like i'll fucking just somebody will message me something at the wrong
01:17:25.400 time and i'll look at it the wrong time and i'm like bro this pissed me off yeah you know what i
01:17:30.440 mean and then you want to screenshot it and tweet it and be like fuck this guy and like find his
01:17:35.140 business and ruin his life and that's crazy and that's what they want so you do have to be chill
01:17:42.200 sometimes i like i respond to that guy i wasn't like mad at him or whatever but it's like i think
01:17:49.280 there's and that's facebook too like the facebook fans will straight up be like bro i don't i just
01:17:57.980 like a lot of i my facebook fan base is newer so they're probably like i don't know who you are like
01:18:02.160 why the fuck am i but you have to have like you're you want fans to have longer attention spans like
01:18:11.120 you don't want to every fan coming from tiktok because that's those that's why some of my shows
01:18:16.980 it's just people yelling the whole time yeah you know do the fucking thing do i'm bored do it because
01:18:23.420 yeah you have no attention span you've already looked at your phone four times since you've been
01:18:26.800 here for sure and you want guys who are like dude i listen to your long form content in the car at the
01:18:32.540 gym like i i share your reels but i like watch your specials like i watch your long because those
01:18:38.940 people are going to spend more money they're going to be more loyal they're going to care about you
01:18:42.900 genuinely that's my biggest that's my biggest fear of like this stuff that i have like it's a it's a
01:18:50.020 real like uh like catch 22 of like the shit that i have that blows up is me either like doing a voice
01:18:57.200 or doing like being being like a dumbass in front of the camera like that's the shit that gets like
01:19:02.180 millions of views and what worries me is like people will come see me do stand-up and it's not that
01:19:08.520 it's not me like acting gay or like acting black like i don't do like a black voice or like a gay voice
01:19:16.420 or like anything it's shit that like i think if you find that kind of thing funny you'll find the
01:19:21.340 jokes and like the material that i do funny but i am worried that people will like those videos come
01:19:27.360 see me and be like way to voices this is the social media tiktok brain though because traditionally it's
01:19:34.260 always been that i mean fucking look at bob saget did stand-up and people weren't going to the stand-up
01:19:40.020 being like well this is going to be clean right they knew that he was he knew dirty comic they knew he was
01:19:45.380 a dirty comic playing a straightly you know straight edge person yeah on tv and same or like i mean
01:19:52.540 well what's his face he was just uh he was putting drugs in people's drinks what's his name cosby yeah
01:20:01.400 he was that was the he was shredded he was straight edge both ways but his comedy was still mean his
01:20:07.300 comedy was very like pull your pants up like yeah it wasn't very it wasn't like it was like mean and
01:20:14.380 real stories and yeah he has the jokes about the spanish fly put the spanish fly in a drink
01:20:20.320 the the handle the whole like hannibal burris thing that like kind of sparked him like people
01:20:26.140 like reopening those investigations like when what happened to him hannibal burris like went out and
01:20:31.580 like i guess bill cosby had some joke about like you know like if black people could act better maybe
01:20:37.480 we would have a better place in society and then hannibal burris like he had a viral clip of him being
01:20:42.320 like yeah maybe that's true but also this is coming from a guy who raped 12 women and like that went
01:20:48.060 super viral but like a big like issue that a lot of like comics had was like cosby was like this dirty
01:20:55.780 fucking guy and not that you should be admitting to rape on stage shouldn't rape anyways but it was
01:21:01.520 like he was this like mean piece of shit who was like raping women and he was like he was really
01:21:07.960 critical of like black people eddie murphy he would call and tell him to stop saying this and stop
01:21:13.580 saying that and he he would like go do like speeches in chicago and be like you kids are never gonna leave
01:21:20.180 your situation if you can't stop calling each other the n-word he's like you call each other that that's
01:21:25.360 what you'll always be that can't stop doing it he's this mean you have to do it otherwise you're going
01:21:29.960 yeah do it to a beat you'll the chinese are doing he uh but he was this old like mean crotchety old man
01:21:38.400 and then he would go on stage and he'd be like i'm a family happy guy it's like no you're not you're
01:21:42.380 a you're an animal you're a monster and you know at least bob saget would like do the opposite yeah he
01:21:49.560 was like no i'm an animal on stage i think the people who were yeah meaner on stage are a little
01:21:54.600 uh cooler and more chill off stage but but aside from all that my main point is that
01:22:03.160 the older generation of comics got away with like yeah that eddie murphy plays this character or this
01:22:10.180 comic plays that character and on tv or in the movies but when we go see him we're going to see him
01:22:15.780 and we know it's about that and now it's it's not that it's like dance monkey and it's like bro
01:22:24.180 what the fuck and then you're like can you guys sign up for my patreon it's like no but that's why
01:22:29.100 the guys who have the big patreon followings they know how to find those kind of fans that are like
01:22:33.800 legit fans of comedy of podcasts they're what they're more chill people and you kind of want
01:22:40.040 i never thought about that when i first started my following because i was just like like i said my
01:22:45.840 baby's born like let's go like what do i have to do chinese accent is how many wigs do i gotta put on
01:22:51.260 where i don't give a fuck yeah right but that's okay to go you have to go through that yeah for
01:22:55.120 sure and fuck all the guilt of like oh well you used to be like this yeah so did every comic dude
01:23:00.480 like yeah george carlin like his main if you read his story or his book or you watch any biographies
01:23:06.140 on him or you know anything about him or richard prior same thing they used to go on those shows
01:23:11.480 those ed merv griffin shows where they would have to be straight laced and they would do a little
01:23:18.560 hello and then richard prior would have to pretend to be like a good little black boy and hello sir
01:23:25.840 yes and george carlin would play like that and then in reality they were doing drugs they were
01:23:32.980 partying and they weren't talking about any of that and then when they started talking about that
01:23:36.880 and started talking about being rebellious yeah there were people who were like this guy's falling
01:23:41.900 off he's not what but dude like i forget if it's richard prior or i think it's richard prior he
01:23:48.580 got to the point where he was doing those that circuit of shows on tv mainly yeah and not even
01:23:56.640 before carson like merv griffin like when he was young he was only like early 20s and he had like the
01:24:02.900 perfect hair like the perm and everything and and then he got to the point where he was doing vegas
01:24:08.460 and he just walked off a vegas show i forget if it was him or carlin one of them and they just
01:24:12.880 they were like yeah this i don't like this anymore i want to do my own thing i'd rather take it down a
01:24:18.920 notch i would rather make less money for a minute or yeah and go find this art because once you find
01:24:23.440 that art and start looking inward to yourself and what do i actually want to be for everybody what
01:24:29.300 kind of artist what kind of creator do i want to be what kind of comedian do i want to be then people
01:24:35.220 really start being interested because they're like oh he's enjoying himself now yeah yeah the
01:24:39.600 chinese accent's cool but like oh now he's like he's in he's into what he's doing do yeah like from
01:24:46.900 time to time yeah you can still pull it out but i think there is something and i'm just using that
01:24:51.800 as an example because that's kind of what i think of as my you know crutch or whatever that or people
01:24:59.940 see it as a crutch but i don't even want yeah because i'll do it like once i was doing it once a
01:25:03.440 week once every couple weeks but it's i just it's not even my most viral shit it's not what people
01:25:09.140 especially my american fans like a lot of them think it's funny and like if i have a if i have
01:25:13.860 a packed room of 300 people four guys out there who are probably going to be the most vocal guys
01:25:19.200 are going to be like we loved your olivia chow shit but the rest of them are like bro but i like
01:25:24.120 legit watch all your your specials pods yeah that's what you want for sure so anyway what we could
01:25:32.900 we could kind of call it but where are you people where do people find you what uh at jeffy d comedy
01:25:39.560 on instagram i don't have a website how do you spell it jeff ed j e f f y d comedy okay nice do you have
01:25:47.560 a website no i need to get one yeah i'll get one once i start fucking like i've i should be on tour by
01:25:54.500 the end of this year i gotta build it and then they'll come i gotta work on some b clubs and people
01:25:59.820 who will give me you know do some more local content in austin get a little more austin people
01:26:04.680 behind you and then yeah i'll be all right money here yeah make some money here i'm doing all right
01:26:09.120 here i got a couple shows uh if you're in austin come come to a show come fucking next week we'll be
01:26:15.460 and i brought jeff i brought jeff to yuck yucks in your falls that was really fun so you guys might
01:26:20.340 recognize him from there he was killing it and hopefully bring him to some more shit and uh yeah he's
01:26:25.860 a he's good shit he's a dad as well and um we're out here in austin grinding it because
01:26:31.680 we're guys with followings that haven't really gotten a lot of help you know what i mean like
01:26:36.080 there's comics out there that people like on big podcasts every week are like have you heard of
01:26:41.220 this guy this guy's amazing and that and his following doesn't even grow because people like
01:26:45.560 bro we know what you're doing you know so i think you got to grind it out on your own i mean you
01:26:51.280 i help other people are gonna help but um for sure like i had help from tony hinchcliffe initially
01:26:59.440 when so when i came to austin the first time my following had just been deleted my instagram was
01:27:05.860 deleted at 12k and i were i was so so sad about it and i was trying to get it back and i had some
01:27:12.980 quotes people were telling me it was gonna be ten thousand dollars to get it back and all this shit
01:27:16.560 um and uh so and i was sad because i had already planned to go to austin i was like i'm gonna show
01:27:23.780 up with 12k sick showed up with like 1500 like a retard but it just had the fucking focus to and i
01:27:32.760 did kill tony and i did so well that i gained that whole 10k back and then i went back to canada and
01:27:38.660 grinded for two years until i came back here so it's a long game and um people listening i really
01:27:46.740 appreciate you guys sticking around and being the best fans patreon there's gonna be another
01:27:50.900 patreon episode dropping tomorrow so go check that out patreon.com slash ben bankus tour and all my
01:27:57.600 tickets are available at bankus.com and i appreciate you guys thank you good night