Jeff Dolezal | Bankas Podcast - #089
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 28 minutes
Words per Minute
203.8835
Hate Speech Sentences
193
Summary
This week, the loonies are joined by comedian and podcaster to talk about what it's like to be a podcaster in the 21st century. We talk about being a comedian, podcasting, and the joys of being poor.
Transcript
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coming together the podcast studios coming together man it's not uh looks good it's not easy
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i mean it's pretty easy i mean sitting down talking this is harder than working 60 hours
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a week construction kit this is yeah dude i mean it's i would say it's harder than being a teacher
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people are so mean to like anytime you actually try to get money from people like again if if
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you're selling tickets that's one thing people are pretty chill about that but recently i posted
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like join my patreon support me on patreon on like my facebook fan page and some guy just some jewish
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guy which made me more anti-semitic than i mean i'm jewish but i'm just you know i'm trying to get
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with the times folks i'm trying to get with the times and trying to so and he was some guy named
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horowitz something horowitz and he was like like a paragraph where he's like listen i like your stuff
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i'll watch the videos i'll i'll give you a like every once in a while but there's no under no
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circumstances will i ever give you a fucking penny for your fucking podcast you and he's like too many
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people getting rich off this shit fuck that it's so and i was like you're making me more anti-semitic
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your last name's horowitz save your shekels for the 30 tickets when i come to the fucking loony bin
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do you know where he's from no i didn't look i didn't go that deep i could have he's probably
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just gonna watch your specials on youtube for free watch him in a week just be like you know
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what now i'm curious i'm gonna join patreon but it is yeah being a comedian now it's kind of
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similar to only fans yeah you have to whore yourself out yeah you have to constantly be thinking
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of like a new piece of content a different color dildo yeah you gotta constantly be doing that
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shit and then you'll do it and people will be like oh that's all this guy is now yeah it's all he does
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now that's all he does now but that's the problem with that's why like you need more people on your
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as like podcast fans because then they're actually like a fan of you as a person versus just like yeah
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i like your clips but you know to give you five bucks a month it seems yeah for sure but people have
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so many subscriptions it's just like disgusting that they won't support for five bucks like
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especially like a podcast like when i worked an office job i had like the three or four podcasts
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that i fucked with heavily and like i needed those to get through my day and if one of those podcasts
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was like five bucks a month and you can get an extra one a week it's like yeah i have to i gotta kill
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40 hours of boredom every fucking week i'll do it i'll pay it but you're like competing with
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you know literally the best podcasts in the world that have an unlimited amount but i think i think
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you're underestimating how many people listen to like a dozen podcasts a week because they're at an
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office like my old job was i sat in front of a computer with headphones on for 40 hours like not
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including you know like lunch break and all that kind of shit i was i was going through like three
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four podcasts a day wow you have to it's the only you can't listen to music for six hours no i mean
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you can you can take a break and listen to music for a little bit but like i would listen to like
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seven or eight podcasts a week minimum when i drove when i drove from toronto to texas i listened to
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the same drake album like over and over again which one uh dark lane demo tapes i like that one that's
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that's not isn't that one like four tracks long no no it's pretty long actually that's scary yeah
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i thought you were listening to the same four songs i was like that's actually crazy yeah no uh dark lane
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demo tapes it's got that one where it's like desires it's a lot of it's like his first dabble into a lot
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of texas kind of stuff so i was like getting pumped to move to texas drake's a great listen when things are
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going well yeah when things are going well you little drake like i am the fucking man i'm i
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depends what you're sad about if you're sad over a breakup it's still good yeah it's probably pretty
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good if you're sad about being poor it sucks yes if like what music do you even listen to if you're
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sad about being poor though uh i don't know because you can't listen to rap because it's a that's a
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different kind of poor you could listen to my kind of poor is like i i got laid off their kind of poor
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is like my plug got shot mexican ot that's a good poor guy yeah he's good good that guy was so hot for
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a minute and like he went on rogan and everything and i saw him on sixth street when i was standing
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outside of what used to be maggie mays across from the mothership and people were like running towards
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him to like get pickers yeah i bet but he just got so obese like he started out not that fat and he
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even talks about it on rogan he's like because he doesn't really give a fuck it's they don't have
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a rogan like hip-hop does not have a guy being like you need to work out yeah you need to go take an ice
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bath and you need to go for like a long walk you need to like concentrate on your mental health they
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don't have that they just have i mean drake are is in shape and probably works out but he's not
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preaching it he's not being like yo and all the rappers out there you better fucking work it's
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all they have is they have the pedophile and they have the nazi those are the two
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honestly kanye kanye might get you into some shape yeah kanye's on kanye's like doing interviews calling
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people he's he's on twitter talking about how worthless fat women are that's true so like he might
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be the guy they keep shutting down their guy honestly the black community would thrive if they would
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just let him go i think they do like it i think they secretly do i think he knows this too that
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like his real og fans like there's no og fans of kanye who are like bro chill they're like yo this is
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hilarious i i mean i have a kanye tattoo i love you yeah we see it what wait let me see his face i
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replaced his head it's the it's the collector's edition cover of my beautiful dark twist oh shit
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i replaced his head with uh michelangelo's david just because i didn't want like a severed black
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guy head on my arm just in case you're going to a track meet in dallas ford or whatever do you see
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that or just in case i had to you know go do like a black room right i mean that would be respect no
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oh well it's severed though it's yeah it's like a sword through a severed black dude's head yeah that's
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that's which when you look at the type of thing you just get and then like two weeks later you're
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like oh fuck that actually might look like yeah it's so funny that i got this and i was like he's
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my favorite artist i'll never regret this and then like a couple years later he's like i'm yadolf
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yitler i'm like bah fuck all right but still i don't even think he's doing an ice bath but like
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mexican ot like i feel bad because he's really talented but it's one of those things and i even
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realize it with comedy like there's a certain level of fat where you have to like
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you either keep going and commit to dying at like mid 40s or you're like yeah like you're ralphie
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maying it or you're like okay because even i mean the fattest comedian name the fattest comedians
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they're all trying to lose weight lavelle crawford that guy that guy looks ozempic as fuck he looks
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good super ozempic i think he that he lost weight pre-ozempic though i think but he might have been a
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candidate he might have got like a gastrointestinal surgery yeah but i love when someone gets the
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gastro surgery and they still end up being fat it's sad it's i mean it's tough my mom was addicted
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to my 500 pound life that was my mom's favorite show i thought you were about to say like m&ms or
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something no she was like a hoarder she also liked hoarders and then once she beat like the dementia
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took too much of her and she became more of a hoarder then she just straight up fucking just my
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500 pound life well i'm not that yeah true that's the people who really get into those shows are the
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people who are like light hoarders yeah they have like a little hint of it no like well i don't i
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don't still have cat shit i throw the cat shit away like yeah but you know half your food's expired
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my grandma for the last like probably because she had dementia the last like five years of her life
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was spending so much time with stomach flus and just like food poisoning and when she passed away
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like we went through her fridge and we're like oh yeah like everything in here is expired no wonder
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she was like losing 10 pounds a month that is gain it back and lose it again that's mostly a white
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problem i feel like hoarding yeah i guess asians maybe slightly with like weird asian shit but it's
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mostly asians are different though because they'll shove nine people in a three bedroom so that's not
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really hoarding they're hoarding human beings they're trafficking people yeah that's trafficking
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indians like in well in toronto they'll have like there's a muslim area and the muslims have
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they all have like bachelors and one bedrooms and they just fucking cram it with like yeah two wives
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three wives seven kids that's how that's how florida was with guatemalans like everywhere has somebody
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you would rent like a condo or like we bought a condo in florida and like we had guatemalan neighbors
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and like we had a two bedroom it was me and my wife and my dog and they would they would have nine
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people in the two bedroom like the living room had two beds in it the kitchen had a bed it's like
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they'll they'll make it work that's gonna be like white people when we all have to move to china
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because our countries are falling apart yeah maybe not that joke i'm not going i'm not toronto no i'm
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no china fuck no the thing is if they had like legal cannabis like everything else is cool like
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the the just the idea of getting caught with anything or like you go to jail forever
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kind of stuff scares me like that's like there's so many chinese people
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yeah but i feel like they're cooler than our chinese people because they stayed
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have you seen that one streamer i forget his name but he's like a black guy and he's in china and people
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are just straight up right they're all fans of this but they look yeah yeah they like come up
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and call him the n-word yeah it's hilarious they have like picket signs of kfc yeah yeah it's very
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funny have you seen but they like him like they actually love him it's part of the shtick and his
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shtick is to be like bro bro are you no yeah this can't be real you can't be doing shit like that
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have you seen uh like videos of like when nba players like age out and they go play in china
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the buses will arrive at arenas and they like throw bananas in the buses like that's all right
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you know what i'm turning around on china china's cool you just feel bad for not making the nba and
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you're like maybe i'll take this this gig then you end up just getting bananas thrown at you it's
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funny to go to another country and nobody speaks english but the n-word it's the only one they know
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you can't have a conversation with them somehow the only thing that migrated from america to china
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linguistically is racial slurs isn't the n-word in chinese also um like i remember
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russell peters had a bit about that because it's like it's a very similar sounding word
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and it means um so in chinese they like say what sounds like the n-word all the time but it's just
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um yeah yeah i know they're like thinking about something they just say the n-word yes which is
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pretty hard that goes which is pretty sick yeah but it's also like the reason they black people do that
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yeah they do actually it's like uh chinese like you remember when you were a kid and you met
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like a kid that could speak a different language and the first thing you asked was like curse words
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racial slurs like it was the first thing you wanted to know right it's i mean it's nice to know that
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other countries feel the same it's nice to know that like china when like an american goes over there
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they're like what are your slurs i'm pretty sure they have i'm pretty sure china has more english
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speaking people than america just because sheer volume of people you think so i'm i'm almost like 100
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i mean yeah there's what 3 billion chinese people two two billion there's only like three i think
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it's like 500 million speak english or something yeah so you could technically go do stand-up in
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china they have my buddy just did it i know a couple dudes who have done it they said it's good
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like it's fine like it but it's only if you're like a tourist and then you happen to go to like an
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open mic if you're trying to do like a tour i think it becomes yeah i mean i don't think they
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could handle like an hour of like references they probably don't understand power of the n-word
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i could probably handle that oh i could handle that no it looks sick i'm just i think that if
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white people ended up moving there like anywhere white people have to immigrate we never live as
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badly as the people who are immigrating to our countries like white people are like i had to
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move to guanamala or i chose to go to nicaragua during the pandemic and it's like yeah you have an
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estate now for what yeah the price of a condo yeah you'd be living it's like those dudes in thailand
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except you're terrified the whole time that somebody's gonna climb your fucking wall and just
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murder and rob your whole family i mean that's could happen anywhere but i feel like chinese
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people are so timid no i mean like in nicaragua oh well you don't move to nicaragua but people do
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like white people have been en masse moving to all the south american remove the agua from that
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you gotta know i should have sent you that real there was a real where it's
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it's like an it's like an info thing about argentina it's like 80 of argentina is white
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and then it just cuts to like a guy guys watching it and he's just like he's just like packing his
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suitcase with everything he can just getting on a flight flying there immediately i mean you know
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why argentina is white correct nazis yeah that's where they all went like all the nazis that fled
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germany once it once like they knew the sink the ship was sinking they all went to argentina
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like there there are a lot of videos of like uh like girls on tiktok being like i got my um 23 and
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me and it turns out that i'm actually 70 argentinian which is weird because i have blonde hair and blue
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eyes and the comments are just like your grandfather was a monster yeah or he was spanish i mean spanish
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people are technically white too true yeah like the original people who are governing it they were
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white and they were racist so they weren't trying to like mix as much as other countries yeah but
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people from spain don't really have like blonde hair blue eyes that's a real aryan thing yeah i guess
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so they have but they're white they're still they have like yeah they're still they're still white
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but my buddy went to argentina too and said it was very white but it's also like looks it looks
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beautiful it looks like more like europe than europe at this point they have all that original
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og like all the stuff buenos aires all built just like europe yeah white people don't go anywhere to
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like ingratiate with the culture that's there like we're gonna hook you up with the hot shit
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we're not gonna washington dc looks european if you've been there it's uh i mean in like sixth grade
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but it has european style buildings like that height of building where it's like a huge block
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yeah yeah it's like triangle streets or like triangle roads but i would hit that i would hit
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up when i was there i would tour south america that would sounds fun but you have to know spanish
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you speak spanish don't you no my wife's fluent oh really yeah just get her to translate you can't
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just bring her on stage it's like those like deaf and mind fucking just bring her on stage to
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translate jokes about how having sex with her is boring now that would be fucking incredible
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you couldn't own a woman more than to be like come translate these jokes where i talk about how
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trash your pussy is oh i love it i love it yeah we like to um lady i took you to an easter egg hunt and
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it was brutal it was bad but it was fun but it was you really like what was the brutal part
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i just it's very like rare that i interact with like a group of people around my age
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that aren't comics like usually like i'm i like if i go like home to florida or whatever like visit
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family i'm ready for like the benign conversations and the how are things and the oh i heard the weather
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is good like i'm used to that kind of shit when i'm with like my family my family's all older than me
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whatever but it's very the only time i'm around other people in like their 20s and 30s
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is like in a green room yeah where we're fucking around and having fun oh yeah we're having so much
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fun just looking at our phones pretending i mean sometimes try not to talk to each other sometimes
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but sometimes it's fun like if you're there and like other people we know are there or like somebody's
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excited i couldn't just go to the picnic table and be on my phone yeah my wife would be like
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come on interact we need to make friends with other people who have kids your wife was okay
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with not interacting as well a little bit she was honestly she was she was probably tired
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oh coming here no what at the newborn or the easter egg hunt she had fun but she was all like i think
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she just liked your wife yeah that was yeah it she like she liked the blonde lady that put the whole
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thing on she was like i can't hang out with that lady no just like the oh that's so sweet that's
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so dear and like your lady was like ripping stokes just like it's a baby life all right good like my
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wife just is like i think it's a northern thing i think a lot of those people are like southern
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it's like southern bells like they grew up with that like oh hell how how y'all doing like
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oh just take your take a little piece of cheese and find an egg and you could you could legitimately
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unannounced knock on any of those people's door right now and drop your kid off and maybe like
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absolutely it takes a village which is great but you need no you need that but i also hope that they
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know that will not be reciprocated if they knocked on my door one of them left us a book
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my dad keeps every time he like hangs out with us or like helps do something he just steals my
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girl's keys for some reason what do you mean like it's like yeah he drove her from toronto back to
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like her parents house which is three hours away and then like his like friend helped drive back
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and then like he just called me after him he's like yeah i just have your wife's keys like all of
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her keys which is like her car key the house key that rocks pool key and then he came and then he
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so then he fedexed it he was pissed he was like it's 200 bucks a fedex i'm like we need your fucking
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key like i don't want to getting lost in the mail like just send it so he sends it and then two weeks
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later he comes and visits for my the birth of my son and everything was helping out and then he flies
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home and he calls me from the airport he goes he's already in like chicago or something he's like
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yeah i have your keys again that's awesome dude yeah my uh my father-in-law came the week that my
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son was born and my mom came also so it was my mom and my wife's dad my mom's like just typical mom
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like she was helping out and doing whatever but her dad is like he's a great guy uh he's super racist
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you'd love him uh but he uh he would just go out every night i'm not that racist guys no no no just
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for bits yeah sometimes but uh he would like go out every night like he didn't even stay at our
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place he's got like a hotel and he would just like come by for like an hour and then borrow one of our
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cars and just go get black out on sixth street he's like 70 years old he's the man dude wow he helped
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us and didn't help us at all right and then he felt bad for like being down for a week and not helping
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it all so he just bought us like a weber grill and then that's it was great yeah i was i was
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i've been looking at one of those where did he buy it did you buy it on amazon i was looking at one
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it's like 500 bucks but i'm worried it's gonna be shit uh i can tell you what it is when i get home
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he got it from like lowe's or home depot or whatever yeah but it was it was i could fit that in
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my car do you think i could fit it in my car two door the one that i have if you could put the can
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you put the back seats down yeah yeah probably but then i have the fucking car seats in there
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i mean literally driving around a mustang with two car seats in it yeah watching watching you and your
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lady get out and then get two kids and a stroller and a car seat is like god out of a mustang god
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damn uh we have to take my my wife that's like me committed to being like look this might not work
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out so i gotta keep it yeah it's we're gonna i'm shipping it back to canada and then um figuring
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out we'll probably bring my girl's car back here which is like a proper vehicle for children my wife
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has an suv but i have a sedan with dude this is i have a i don't have ac at the moment it's so
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yeah it's so hot in my car dude that car i have a beamer ac doesn't work tags expired and i don't
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have insurance and i'm pretty sure there's a term for that it's like something rich it's a word that
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chinese people say yeah um rich um rich yeah i mean i've i've luckily never done that i'll nuke him
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when my mom passed away i mean before she passed away when she got dementia i had to like her
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license expire like they canceled her driver's license and i thought originally like okay well
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i'll still drive your car or whatever but then like i talked to somebody and they're like no no like
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it can't be registered in her name anymore because she isn't legally allowed to drive so you have to
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register your name so it's a whole you have to go through the thing go to the dmv and get like a
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letter notarized by a lawyer that says that she's transferring it for one dollar like it has to be
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some amount and then there's a whole thing and it was a toyota matrix like 2011 and i was driving
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around in canada and just like didn't realize that there was like no insurance on it at one point
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and the cop was like pulled me over i was literally so when i was this was probably 2022
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when my daughter was born and i lived in the middle of nowhere with sorry i know if her parents
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are watching it's i mean it's a beautiful area but it is far away from everything it's like two hours
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from detroit ish but there's no open mics or comedy and i needed to do comedy and i was at the time i was
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at like maybe 20k followers 30k trying to grind like yeah you know baby just fucking born kind of
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where you're at but living in the middle of nowhere exactly where i'm at yeah that's not awesome first
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for yeah not awesome like middle of nowhere so the only open mics that i could do were london ontario
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and windsor ontario so i would drive i'm either like windsor from there is like an hour and a half
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london's like an hour each way so i drive like an hour just to do comedy and um in that fucking
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toyota matrix and we're just yeah dude i like cars i like i like a shitty car sometimes like a falling
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apart car it just kind of makes you feel like you're you should have a car with no ac right now
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yeah no it's i like it but your wife has a nice car yeah she has a very nice car yeah uh i like i like
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i mean i've had that car the entire time i've been doing comedy that car is like the perfect
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metaphor for what doing comedy will fucking do to you because when i bought that car i was i was you
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know working at an ad agency making good money and then i started doing comedy and like it's like such
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a great metaphor for like this car was once like a very nice respectable bmw and now like the paint's
00:24:20.340
chipping the ac doesn't work they're the windshield's cracked no insurance like that's
00:24:26.500
what comedy will fuck anybody who like messages me and they're like i'm thinking about doing comedy
00:24:30.380
like it's gonna ruin your fucking life depending on how good you want to be like if you want to be
00:24:34.560
shit like i won't or well it could too if you're not willing to dedicate yourself fully like there's
00:24:40.720
something that happens to the universe when you go i want to be the funniest person alive and then
00:24:46.420
they're like okay well your mom's gonna have dementia now yeah and you're you're gonna drive
00:24:50.260
toyota matrix 2011 and you're gonna get pulled over because and you're gonna forget to like or
00:24:55.800
whatever and my buddy was even telling me about this so armin that we were talking on the phone with
00:25:00.780
yeah who has the funny sketches on on ig and you know i've been i was kind of the guy who like saw him
00:25:08.220
at this comedy club that i helped open in toronto that's no longer open it's called the royal comedy
00:25:13.260
theater it was a small comedy club that me and my buddy mike cartis came up with the name it was
00:25:19.140
my buddy matt messaged me out of nowhere his friend used to come to my shows when i did them in the park
00:25:25.760
during lockdown and he so and he's like hey i'm friends with this guy who used to come to your shows
00:25:32.360
and i want us to open a comedy club can you help me out and um anyway so it was great it was a great
00:25:39.360
comedy club and it was actually i started doing a weekly show there and it was selling out every
00:25:43.740
week we were about to start doing two a week like two like every monday two shows and it was all new
00:25:49.560
jokes and it was packed and it was great and then he was like i can't do this anymore it was so fucking
00:25:56.200
annoying that he did that like what a bit like and i had lived at his place for a bit he like he did
00:26:00.600
help me out a lot but then it's like and he was the guy was like you can make a lot of money doing
00:26:04.140
this like he was helping motivate me yeah yeah and then the second i started making money at his club
00:26:08.320
he's like yeah we're closing the whole thing down sorry that sucks but anyway that's where i saw
00:26:12.920
armin and i was like you know come with me to yuck yucks and let's you know come open for me do a
00:26:18.040
guest spots before i even was selling my own tickets i was just doing like i was headlining shows
00:26:23.000
that yuck yucks put on because like i kind of explain how the canadian thing works so yuck yucks has
00:26:29.220
their name brand and they sell tickets based on just being yuck yucks and people know that their comics
00:26:35.080
are funny but aren't necessarily famous yeah so those shows are sold out all the time so you can
00:26:39.280
like work your way up the rank but you start out as a middle act yeah which is you get which is pretty
00:26:45.640
good you do 20 minutes you're basically like the mini headliner yeah yeah and then from there you
00:26:50.800
we call it middle but here we call it they call it feature um right or no the feature is the feature
00:26:57.520
feature is the middle yeah host host feature headliner hosts like in canada the feature is
00:27:04.380
the headliner yeah they do that that's like a theater show here like if you go see like a like
00:27:09.700
i saw burr in like 2021 and he had a forrest shaw who's like a florida comic super funny guy
00:27:15.400
um he had him like host feature so like you cold open but you still do like 2025 and then burr would
00:27:23.540
come out and do an hour but that's like how theater shows but like at here like clubs it's
00:27:28.840
like you have your like 10 minutes up top host to go cold open and do like the club bullshit like
00:27:34.980
don't forget the tip here please keep your table talk to a minimum and then then you try to power
00:27:40.540
through eight minutes of stand-up and then you have like the feature set like obviously the goal is to
00:27:46.560
like headline yeah i fucking love featuring yeah no i love it too you get like the best crowd
00:27:52.040
because they're warmed after the host but like i mean you've headlined more than i have like clubs
00:27:58.220
like you don't have to as a feature you don't have to deal with like check drop dude there's no better
00:28:02.840
feeling really i mean there is obviously but the feeling of freedom of being an unknown comic
00:28:09.480
who has a 20 minute spot on a show and the headliner is also unknown so the audience isn't even
00:28:17.420
going there being like well i don't care about you i'm trying to watch this guy yeah yeah so they're
00:28:21.140
just like i don't i don't know we're just here we're having a good time this guy's funny
00:28:24.560
that and you just have 20 minutes do whatever you want kill that middle feature spot is just like
00:28:29.980
everyone's everyone's warm the whole crowd's warm but they're not they're not tired yet they're not
00:28:35.640
like ready to leave yeah like dude i saw like tim dylan when i would like right before i started
00:28:40.480
doing comedy and like i love tim dylan he's one of the best and the last like five minutes of his set
00:28:46.540
i was even like i'm ready to go home i mean all comedy is yeah for sure when i'm closing like
00:28:53.100
you're still killing but you can see certain people are like they're i mean they're figuring
00:28:56.880
out what their plans are that's why mothership and other comedy clubs in austin sunset are great
00:29:04.960
because they put people's phones away and it does yeah that is nice chill people out it just go my
00:29:09.880
phones i'm not looking at it i don't care and clubs around here understand that you if you're
00:29:15.940
not doing weighted tables if you're not if you have like a bar or something that people have to go walk
00:29:21.680
to you don't have to do the check drop and if you don't have to do check drop you don't have to do a
00:29:25.820
90 minute show like the show that you're on next week that i produce at roscoe's i'm gonna keep that
00:29:31.820
10 minutes 70 minutes it'll be a 70 minute show yeah it's just yeah you mean longer or shorter oh
00:29:38.300
you shorter shorter yeah i would always tell like uh like producers in florida and like even even guys
00:29:43.460
around here like i headlined uh i headlined a like a witch shop you know eddie larsa
00:29:48.660
uh long hair actually just cut all of his hair he produces like really great shows he'd let you
00:29:56.440
headline he let me headline um one of his shows they were fucking great they sell out he does like
00:30:01.120
almost like a it's basically he just like kind of rob don't tell his thing of like secret lineup
00:30:06.100
secret whatever but i did like 25 at the end but there were like seven comics before me this is too
00:30:13.420
long cut four of those motherfuckers and have them on the next one by the time i mean i still had a
00:30:18.460
great set the only way that works is if it's your own show and you're headlining it at the end
00:30:22.260
because you want to do stage time and sometimes i like doing comedy especially because you know i have
00:30:29.160
70 fucking shows coming up or like and he keeps adding shows so it's like 80 shows or you know
00:30:35.620
within from may till january i'm gonna have that many big like shows that were my you know people
00:30:42.360
are coming to see me they're paying good money they're doing the whole thing babysitter whatever
00:30:46.780
transport ubers and you want it to be good so um the best way to practice is going up on these shows
00:30:56.060
late when it's yeah when like all i've been doing the mothership crew show and going up last which is
00:31:02.920
at like midnight the show started at eight yeah oh yeah so there's 15 people there but you're gonna
00:31:07.900
know if you're funny or not oh yeah definitely you can't and i do i also ascribe to the ideology like
00:31:14.660
rogan says like you can't just only do rooms that are half empty because then you're not going to know
00:31:18.480
what it's like to actually kill for a proper room yeah but you need to you need to have both it's like
00:31:22.640
two muscles yes and you need to be able to kill for the like at your show last night there's four
00:31:28.840
there's four people yeah it's like the end of the night people are like okay you know they're passing
00:31:33.320
through like your show is like packed at certain points then it's like yeah towards the end people
00:31:37.680
are gone but i like that i like a show because it's it's not we're talking about like what did
00:31:44.680
what are the nate like what are the it's almost they're not open mics but they're shows but they're
00:31:49.480
not you're not going to see someone specifically you're just going to see it it's a showcase it's
00:31:53.880
a showcase yeah and i like these long showcases where it's like three hours four hours because
00:31:58.320
it really yeah it works it works like the two you want a hot crowd every once in a while because you
00:32:04.700
can you can mix in the new shit with the old shit you know the old shit will hit for a hot crowd so
00:32:11.020
you can throw in the new one and if it hits like the old shit it's good and if it doesn't you either
00:32:16.440
need to work on it or toss it but with like a with like a lighter crowd or like the end of a
00:32:22.840
showcase spot it's like now you have to work on like turning a cold room hot again sometimes you
00:32:29.580
just have to be funny and i think people i think a lot of comics they focus on the material so much
00:32:35.740
that they forget that like it's not the material like when people go to buy tickets for you for real
00:32:41.080
they're not buying tickets because they're like oh just such good material oh he's such a clever
00:32:45.720
writer i mean there is that aspect of it where you know you don't want to be a complete loser
00:32:50.940
dumbass but they want you they like you they think you are funny they think you're funny no matter what
00:32:57.280
you talk about and again that's why you got to go in these fucking rough rooms anyway i think the
00:33:02.560
whole reason i was talking about that originally was because armin his dad like has like is sick now
00:33:07.900
and he like and he like right after he started headlining yeah and i was like if you want and at one
00:33:12.740
point i told him like when i was dealing with all my mom's stuff and like my mom's just like dying and
00:33:17.720
like then i was started like got my girl pregnant and i'm like kid you want to be a headliner you're
00:33:23.080
just gonna get a lot more you're gonna grow up it's gonna suck yeah yeah no as soon as i like
00:33:28.100
dedicated myself to comedy it's like i could not hold a nine to five i've been i've been fired from
00:33:34.100
three jobs since starting comedy just because i all all advertising jobs but just trying to like
00:33:40.440
trying to like it's way cooler to get fired from like a white collarist job yeah like yeah burger king
00:33:46.740
yeah target but all of those types of jobs it's like you can't you can't like you don't have enough
00:33:53.300
like brain bandwidth to deal with that all day and then you have like clients and people emailing you
00:33:59.200
and texting you at night and then to go do stand-ups like you can't you have to like admit
00:34:03.800
that like your days of working like a nine to five and making a good salary are behind you you have to
00:34:10.500
give up on you you have to give up on like this that the fake dream and and focus on the real dream
00:34:17.460
joey diaz talked about it a lot too on his on the on the original church of what's happening now
00:34:22.900
podcast a lot and i would listen to it walking to work and i had such a sick like i had a sick
00:34:28.040
condo that i rented but i'm in toronto bay and dundas if you know where that is in toronto right
00:34:34.600
downtown i was working at brookfield place which is like the nicest office building and it has its
00:34:40.760
own food court in the basement and is connected there's something in toronto called the path
00:34:44.880
because it gets cold in the winter so all the downtown main office buildings are connected
00:34:49.820
underground through like this really nice pathway with a bunch of it's like a mall basically
00:34:55.040
and i'd walk to work and i would listen to the church and i was doing comedy at night and i would
00:35:01.360
just be like you'd be like eventually you just gotta fucking quit your job you gotta just you gotta
00:35:07.100
just be poor be willing to be poor and i did that i got rid of the condo that's when i moved back to
00:35:12.560
my mom's house uh hurt while she was renting to an apartment in toronto spadina and bloor and i moved
00:35:20.260
back there and that's when she you know i found out she fell down the stairs well i found that out
00:35:25.800
that's also why i wanted to move back there she her whole face was black and blue because she was
00:35:30.340
getting hammered and had dementia and she'd be walking the dog and the dog and pull her over and
00:35:35.300
she's just falling and shit fuck man so like i moved back there and just was like i'm gonna take
00:35:40.980
the hit here i'm gonna make no money 200 bucks a week or yeah you know but i i got it up quick
00:35:47.440
because started my own shows i mean originally i had no money because covet happened um and i had to
00:35:55.840
like do random like i was delivering stuff at one point um but delivering booze but comedy stopped for
00:36:04.040
three months in florida for covet yeah that's pretty sick it was i started doing comedy in like
00:36:09.940
december of 2019 yeah and by the whole country shut down like mid-february by the end of april we
00:36:19.260
were we were back doing mics dude like it never happened that's amazing it wasn't like that in
00:36:25.580
toronto it was so i did the first show that had happened in toronto on june 5th which was at the
00:36:32.620
time so i don't know if you remember when chappelle came out with a that little special that was outside in
00:36:38.700
his yeah he was doing like a phone and he was claiming that that was the first comedy show that
00:36:43.240
had happened since pandemic or something like that or i forget what he was claiming but mine was the it
00:36:47.880
was filmed the day before that technically uh or it happened the day before it we didn't film it
00:36:53.860
but um i mean there we did film some stuff jason rouse was there filming shit and uh because the cops
00:37:01.160
were there and bylaw was there and they were trying to make you know they were trying to shut down the
00:37:06.580
show that we did in the park but i forget why i brought that up because whatever we were talking
00:37:13.480
about oh yeah so that was that show i up from february to to june no stand-up at all just pure
00:37:23.180
podcasting and bullshit and i deleted all those podcasts because i just lost my mind like i was just
00:37:30.240
like the chinese i had like a megaphone i was yelling at my neighbors like that's fucking
00:37:37.140
with a megaphone not on the pod but like i was that i kept up there the videos of me yelling at
00:37:41.760
my neighbors because every 7 p.m every day they'd bang pots and pans and i would go i would open the
00:37:47.360
window with a megaphone and go china's infiltrated our government they're causing the lockdown it was
00:37:53.500
kind of fun yeah remember when you weren't allowed to say it came from china no it was insane i mean
00:37:59.100
chinese virus remember when if you said it came from the lab you were a conspiracy theorist right
00:38:04.460
remember that what was weird too is they were like you're if you say you're like i think it came from
00:38:09.500
the coronavirus lab in wuhan and they were like that's a dangerous racist conspiracy theory and
00:38:16.360
you're like all right what's the i don't want to look racist so like what should i think and they
00:38:20.800
were like you know chinese people eat bats right like all right that's probably worse like how is that
00:38:26.480
the less racist way to go like you know chinese people eat weird shit that's what happened it
00:38:31.520
wasn't the lab it's because they eat goofy shit like all right no they got away with it so easily i
00:38:37.440
had a bit about that where i was like oh no we ate a bat but it's just like yeah it's fucking insane
00:38:44.680
that all that happened and the effect it had on comedy but yeah once once fucking like because i quit
00:38:53.240
my job november 2019 four months essentially before the lockdown and i was lucky to do it because i was
00:39:00.660
in commercial real estate office leasing it's like bro nobody was leasing an office it was all
00:39:04.820
they were giving up their leases everyone was working from home and it was crazy oh yeah there
00:39:09.840
were guys that i worked with who were working at starbucks because they their portfolio fell apart
00:39:14.920
but yeah dude you have to like it's not just comedy it's probably a bunch of other shit
00:39:19.620
also but like if you have like this pie in the sky dream like like i was i was talking to my buddy in
00:39:25.520
florida who's like newer newer than i am do you know casey graves he's a good comic he looks like me if i
00:39:31.640
was buff but he uh he was just like he was going through the same shit he's like maybe almost four
00:39:37.780
years in and i was like dude it's gonna you have all the boxes checked right like you produce your own
00:39:43.220
shows you write new jokes you get as much stage time as you can handle uh you know you you make
00:39:50.100
content you do all that shit you have all the boxes checked now you have to keep all of those boxes
00:39:55.660
checked for another like eight years yeah you just have to suffer for like a decade if you want this
00:40:02.780
shit to work it is like i'm glad i didn't start now because when i started i started comedy in 2011 and
00:40:07.820
by like there was no social media comics the only in canada specifically in toronto though you know
00:40:16.660
there was comics like dave merhege and um you know a few other guys who had cbc and matt o'brien who
00:40:24.340
you know they were on the canadian broadcasting channel and ctv and they had these like comedy
00:40:29.820
specials that were produced by basically the government and that was like the be-all end-all they
00:40:35.680
were getting writing gigs for other canadian shows and stuff so that felt like okay i always knew
00:40:41.600
like i want that seems retarded like i want to do something bigger than that like i want to be like
00:40:45.560
a you know at the time like a bill burr or some you know comics that i would go see at a yeah big
00:40:50.600
theater russell peters or whatever but those are the guys that you looked up to as an open miker
00:40:55.880
touring comic yeah oh it's crazy who you look up to as an open miker comic the guys who like i would
00:41:02.180
look up to guys who like hosted the improv yeah and then like you do stand up for another like
00:41:07.780
six months you're like that guy's dog shit dude there was a guy named joel west when i started
00:41:12.660
comedy it was just like this weird old like gay bald guy that was like moroccan he kind of no he's
00:41:22.060
like a moroccan like fat old version of it no he wasn't even version of he was just he was a bald but
00:41:27.560
anyway he like i remember i did this little documentary of me going around to all these like
00:41:33.580
comedy shows because i was killing like i was funny still i really wish there was social media
00:41:38.260
when i was 23 25 doing yeah because i would have probably blown up in a more matt rifey type of way
00:41:45.560
because i was you know thinner well hopefully we got thin again fucking get back to being a good
00:41:50.320
looking comic we'll see let's go dude but like 20 when i was 24 and thin doing comedy like there was
00:41:56.800
no i should have been on social media but looking back the way people treated me was crazy
00:42:01.420
especially for how like i was like a cute kid young guy fucking doing comedy wasn't a loser wasn't a
00:42:09.580
retard and like people would just be like yeah well it's gonna be a tough road for you like people
00:42:15.000
people are mean when you start comedy people are super mean when you start comedy they should be
00:42:19.340
though if they're not then you're not gonna make it no i mean the i remember like being outside of an
00:42:23.740
open mic like maybe eight months in and this girl walked out and she was like i think i'm just gonna
00:42:29.120
stop doing this i'm done like i i just i'm not having fun nobody books me and like these two like
00:42:35.120
of course like white knight like kind of faggots were like no like you just gotta stick with them
00:42:39.740
like let her go yeah she's not built for this she she's bombing open mics which like just quit which
00:42:45.940
is just that's the first year of comedy by the way it's just bombing open mics you have to enjoy it
00:42:50.340
you have to enjoy that one little moment where one guy was like yeah yeah you you you just stare
00:42:56.100
at that guy for five minutes and do your material like that's that's what the first like the first
00:43:01.080
six months of comedy is just begging for a laugh that's all it is that's why you have to start so
00:43:05.480
early because that like coddling of a new comic is like let her go who gives a shit like when i started
00:43:11.980
i was 19 so i had a lot of leeway to be shit i remember i did this one there was this crazy guy
00:43:17.440
that i i was friends with a guy who um like we were in the same dorm and he was friends
00:43:26.100
in kingston ontario when i went to queens and he was friends with a guy who went to like the
00:43:31.360
community college in the same town he's like black dude who was just he was like a part of like a club
00:43:37.140
promoter and stuff he's like come do this like i'm working the bar at this you just do it working
00:43:42.440
a bar at this fucking place that was right by the water in kingston by the harbor and it was
00:43:49.160
empty it was a weird it was almost like a snack shop for like the sailing club or something like
00:43:54.780
it was barely a bar there was one guy there him and i did and like i advertised it i was like gonna
00:44:01.140
be here like you know 19 thinking like so you do it you know yeah for sure make a post on your
00:44:06.460
personal facebook and you know you get people out nobody came and i just bombed and i swear to god
00:44:14.580
i just did like i think i did at one point i was like i'm just gonna do a richard prior bit like i
00:44:18.900
said that like i was like i'm gonna try a richard prior bit fuck it i'm 19 yeah who gives a shit who
00:44:23.920
cares cares so you have to it's it's tough when people start later because you're you're an adult
00:44:30.060
and you're being scrutinized i started at 28 yeah i started like still young but it's like it's young it
00:44:35.900
was like i mean i was a big like comedy fan like my whole life and i always like wanted to do it
00:44:41.160
and then i started listening to like comedy podcasts and they were always like it takes
00:44:44.800
five years to make a good comic it takes 10 years to make you a headliner and at like 28 i was like
00:44:50.660
all right like you can't start this at fucking 35 like you have to if you don't do this now it's not
00:44:58.100
gonna it's never gonna happen so it was just this like i started fairly late but i don't the
00:45:05.280
saddest people in the world are the dudes who show up to like a new faces or some shit and they're
00:45:11.020
like 60 and they're like well my kids finally moved out and i you know it's always been a dream of mine
00:45:16.340
it's like you waited 35 years too long man you waited way too long you do have to sacrifice things
00:45:23.600
like even you know i have a family you have a family but there's you know daddy's gotta go
00:45:28.820
somewhere daddy's not gonna be able to go to the splash pad right now no yeah daddy's gotta
00:45:34.860
sit in a room and talk about the n-word or whatever whatever it is or just focus and you know you're
00:45:43.720
gone at night you're doing comedy you might sometimes you need a schmooze so you're gonna
00:45:48.200
have to get a little drunk you're gonna have to have a few drinks you're gonna have to hang out you're
00:45:52.060
gonna smell like cigarettes you're gonna be coming home 2 a.m you're gonna want to sleep in
00:45:56.920
and you need a partner like that's that's cool with that like and a lot of people want to pretend
00:46:02.300
like oh you oh once you have a family it's really hard not because number one you're not worried
00:46:08.360
about getting pussy yeah that's nice that takes a lot of time away yeah from i was engaged i got
00:46:15.340
engaged like maybe i don't know probably four months into comedy yeah so like i was that the pussy
00:46:23.160
thing was off the table from the beginning it did especially like you want to get a little bit of
00:46:28.740
that yeah i mean that would have been that would have been nice but that was off the table from
00:46:33.500
the beginning but that's good though i also like my wife rules like she gets it she gets it like
00:46:38.900
last night i did i gotta go to that place early to like do the lights and do all that shit i leave
00:46:45.780
the house at like 6 30 i don't get home till like midnight and she tell them we got some austin
00:46:49.760
listeners yeah i mean go to fucking go to bulls pub on thursdays ben'll be there i'll be there
00:46:55.580
it's good we fuck around it's it's actually a chill time like if you like comics who want to come to
00:47:01.120
like a actual show and then they're like lining up for the meet and greets like you could just come
00:47:05.020
to bulls but actually there was one of my fans randomly was there last night for a guy from
00:47:09.640
montreal he just randomly went to a bar and was like oh the blonde guy yeah yeah he ruled yeah he was
00:47:14.680
cool dude he stayed the whole show um yeah he's a good dude french canadians are pretty chill
00:47:19.140
ben's usually there every week i'll be there every week we i don't book shit comics uh cam
00:47:25.060
patterson dropped in yesterday yeah it's a good show it's worth drop it's worth it's a good little
00:47:30.360
and it looks like a legit like british pub inside yeah it looks good looks like texas outside looks
00:47:37.780
like texas the car that's like where all the cops like hang out yeah and there's a good like the first
00:47:42.880
like five comics get a really good room yeah it'll it'll pack out it's just uh keeping people there
00:47:49.040
it's tough because it's a free show so they're like i can leave whatever i want yeah but what
00:47:53.040
was the point of that the um people hang out i forget what the yeah just to go you got it like
00:47:59.040
my wife oh yeah you got it oh yeah you got it like she gets up at she has to be like on a meeting at
00:48:04.180
5 a.m every day so she gets up at like 4 50 goes to the office like boots up her computer like she's
00:48:10.540
she works from 5 a.m to 3 p.m every day she makes she makes great money but she also understands that
00:48:18.000
like like yesterday 5 to 3 normal fans why i had to do this at 3 30 and then as soon as she was done
00:48:25.500
with work i was i chilled with her and the baby for a little bit i was like i gotta go and be gone for
00:48:29.200
six hours you're gonna get four hours of sleep tonight and she's like okay like she just she gets
00:48:35.680
it like she moved to texas like she knows the drill you know what i mean like if i have a show
00:48:40.140
or i have whatever she'll like like yesterday she's like i'll nap during the day so that i'm not
00:48:46.080
too tired by the time you get home whatever like she'll work around it like you need you need that
00:48:52.440
like having a family like right now i have a newborn you have a newborn so like leaving like
00:48:57.900
the state right now is kind of off the table but it won't be in like a month i mean the one thing is
00:49:04.360
like the single guys have advantages they don't have to be like okay everybody out of the house
00:49:09.320
so i can do a pod or every or like managing that but they have the disadvantage of like they're gonna
00:49:17.120
go out on a friday after a show and get hammered try to get pussy the whole time fail or they're
00:49:23.780
gonna get pussy and then that person's gonna be like oh you're famous and like cause some sort of
00:49:27.720
problem for them sure and then and then just like the dudes who are at like more like my level
00:49:33.900
of like you there's no fire there like i have to make this work i moved my family now family
00:49:42.700
she was pregnant when she moved but like i moved my family to texas my wife works a shitty work
00:49:49.660
schedule like i have to make this work if you're like 27 and single and like you just have like a
00:49:55.700
roommate and whatever it's like you don't really have to grind that hard there's nothing in the back
00:49:59.920
of your head that's like i gotta make this work yeah kind of kick it for a little bit you can be
00:50:04.720
cool with just like making working a day job and making 200 bucks a week on showcase spots
00:50:09.920
and just being like i'm on sunset this week yeah like you can just live off of that high if you want
00:50:15.900
whereas like i put all my eggs into this basket it has to work i have to find a way to like build an
00:50:21.580
audience yeah and do whatever so there there are advantages to like having a family having a wife
00:50:27.520
because i know in like five years if i'm not making any sort of a living off of this she's like what
00:50:32.780
the fuck are you doing like i have to make this work now before i had my first born i felt like i had
00:50:38.900
a lot more time to get things done i was like what 29 right before she was born 20 yeah 30 when she was
00:50:45.200
born so i was like i got time i'm only 20 and then you realize like oh fuck i got a lot of shit to pay
00:50:50.880
i remember my mother-in-law saying to me like oh it might be time for you to get a real job like
00:50:57.220
because i wasn't making that much money i was getting some like the most money i had made before
00:51:03.120
i started selling my own tickets really was um in one shot was like 1600 canadian which is like
00:51:10.880
1100 bucks maybe american or something and it was a weekend of shows in newfoundland
00:51:19.060
which i don't even know if you know where that is i mean yeah it's just like a place yeah it's kind
00:51:24.240
of i think isn't newfoundland famous because on 9 11 a bunch of like american planes got stranded
00:51:30.020
there and they were all really nice to them and stuff so that was like part of it but part of the
00:51:34.900
lore for americans for for newfoundland but i went and i was like so excited and i actually scrolled was
00:51:40.820
scrolling back to that time and saw the promo i did for it and i had maybe the shows were sold out
00:51:46.980
because it was a yuck like a yuck yucks thing but i had maybe 10 15 fans at each show and there was
00:51:53.140
maybe like 200 people at each show yeah so i was like okay well you know that's like progress whatever
00:51:57.960
um and and then i realized like oh i gotta work way harder i gotta post way more i gotta
00:52:05.000
engage with just thing my fans like you know even now it's like another level where i've realized
00:52:13.380
oh the podcast has to work because i can't just be a fucking touring comic forever that i mean i can
00:52:18.840
but if you don't have that other layer of the podcast is good so people are buying tickets from
00:52:24.960
your podcast not necessarily just instagram reels yeah because right now people are buying them from
00:52:29.760
instagram reels which is great and shows are selling out in toronto and canada and like new york
00:52:35.600
big markets la um texas is doing really well the other markets boston but you need to like your
00:52:43.980
average joe is listening to podcasts and if you're not in that like you said you're not on that fucking
00:52:48.480
list they're not buying your tickets and then your shows aren't selling out either and patreon you know
00:52:55.180
like if you if not just like if you get a hundred thousand views that's ad revenue that's um youtube revenue
00:53:01.780
so and like that guy i talked about the fucking jew being like like i'll never help you like it's like
00:53:09.660
well yeah i can see why because i'm not doing something right i need to be creating more value
00:53:14.340
and that's what it's all about i mean i you know i'm in the same boat i moved my family here
00:53:19.180
i i originally the the for me it was moving my family to toronto my girl had never even lived in
00:53:24.560
toronto like she lived in a small town um and was afraid of toronto then she came to toronto she's like
00:53:30.200
oh i love it i love this it's amazing and then was scared oh no we're gonna move to austin i'm scared
00:53:35.820
to move to austin then oh fuck i love it it's great so um and i had to pay what was like 15 or 10 or 15
00:53:43.800
grand for like the visa to be able to move here too so right away a lot of comics who were getting
00:53:51.080
the success i was getting at that time when i applied for the visa even though they had u.s people
00:53:56.240
they'd be like maybe i'll just keep doing canada and then it's like you're doing edmonton three times
00:54:02.180
a year like eventually that's people are going to be like this is we don't care anymore yeah you can't
00:54:06.100
hit the same market more than once a year those people are going to be like you can't write it twice
00:54:11.860
a year three hours a year if it's your main spot you can do it multiple times a year if you have the
00:54:16.140
volume sure yeah or if you're coming up with new material which i try to do and i try to push myself
00:54:21.400
like i came out with a special people talk mad shit so a lot of people like the special but people
00:54:25.760
will be like oh it wasn't as good as the other ones it's like dude i was it was i was drunk in
00:54:30.380
tampa and we had a i spent seven hundred dollars on a guy to film it i was like fuck it i'll make it
00:54:35.660
a special like it gives a fuck what am i a lot of comedy now is people competing with their themselves
00:54:43.780
and their own thoughts where it's like there's other comics who've gotten to where they are
00:54:51.980
in ways that it seems like well if i don't do it that way then i'm selling myself short or i'm not
00:54:58.020
legit yeah i'm not doing it the right way yeah like it's like because not everybody can be
00:55:03.700
a you know a shane or whatever where it's like you got snl you got dumped and then he
00:55:10.000
you know blew up this way that and and and not everybody can be a schultz or not everybody can
00:55:15.260
be whatever comic but you have to carve your way and it's a fight especially like you said you have
00:55:21.180
your kids you're like you're not gonna you're you're in your 30s now what are you gonna do you're
00:55:24.780
just gonna wait around and hope and pray and those those can't get better at your actual stand up
00:55:30.820
if you're not willing to post the shit and be like i'm willing to never do that again
00:55:35.120
sure yeah because then you'll just be one of those guys and yuck yucks has tons of those guys and
00:55:40.220
america like has way more of those guys than you oh those guys are those guys are everywhere those
00:55:44.880
guys doing the same bits from 2008 i don't want to burn material and it's like yo how long is an
00:55:51.020
instagram reel 45 seconds you can't dude i'll trade any joke i have for a million views yeah easily
00:55:57.900
yeah then you're done like my best joke whatever it may be if it hit like a million and i couldn't
00:56:05.160
do it anymore also like dog if you if you post a fucking bit and it goes viral and then people
00:56:11.540
want to come see you do you think they really give a fuck if they recognize a minute of your hour
00:56:17.240
they don't give a shit people don't care i did a i did a weekend in tampa you should have coastal
00:56:23.000
creative that place is fucking awesome but uh place that like sells it's a club it's yeah it's
00:56:29.100
in it's in saint pete close to tampa but uh they like basically sell their own tickets and they put
00:56:34.380
people like me up people who like they know are funny and have the time but like don't have an
00:56:38.720
audience and uh i mean you do have a bit of an audience now you're at 40k a little bit yeah a
00:56:45.260
little bit but uh this lady after the show like i was taking pictures with people and this lady after
00:56:51.500
the show because the the place is like an event space so they have a comedy club they have a
00:56:55.740
concert hall and then they have like three or four banquet halls and the green room is right next to
00:57:00.560
one of the banquet halls and there was like 300 it was like a dentist convention like a south floor
00:57:06.200
or like west coast of florida oh yeah so like there's other rooms in this in this like it's like
00:57:11.840
an event space like comedy club is that kind of like um the one in houston what's it called
00:57:16.980
i don't know um art center or no you know the comedy club i'm talking about in houston where
00:57:23.840
there's multiple no there's like multiple rooms that's where skank fest was at one point oh no i've
00:57:30.860
i've never been there whoever knows what i'm talking about comment but uh people were like taking
00:57:35.340
pictures with me after the show and show packs out did like 250 and this lady walks up and she's like
00:57:42.500
why is everyone taking pictures with you and i was like oh i just did a show and she was like oh
00:57:49.380
what kind of show and i was like the comedy show what are you here for and she was like i was here
00:57:54.080
for the comedy show i was like i'm the i was like i'm i was the guy i was the guy who went last and did
00:58:01.840
the longest i've been off stage for 10 minutes at this point and she's like why are you who what did
00:58:08.560
you do here i was like i was the comedian you just watched me for 45 minutes people really are that
00:58:13.780
out of it though they're but that's what i mean with like the like i don't want to burn material it's
00:58:17.520
like yo this lady watched me do a full 45 they don't know 10 minutes later was like who are you
00:58:22.620
yeah this is the guy that was lit on stage for like what the fuck are you talking about the burning
00:58:28.080
the material thing is for us it's for comics and yeah it's for it only comics notice that shit dude
00:58:33.680
i've done i used to do and you only bring one guy on the road so yeah like who gives a fuck but
00:58:39.080
really the audience like if you're doing shows and you're crap and you're selling out your crowd
00:58:44.080
and you're fucking specialized hundreds of thousands of views or millions of views and people are coming
00:58:49.460
going dude that's literally i've seen all this shit what the fuck is that that's an issue that's
00:58:53.980
different but if you're like in a fucking pinch and you're like yeah here's one from six years ago
00:58:58.560
just remembered right now for no reason yeah maybe there's a clip of it if somebody dug deep
00:59:03.280
and scrolled for 15 minutes and even if that clip went viral a month ago like if it's one minute
00:59:11.340
of a fucking 45 to an hour long set even if people recognize it in the audience they're not going to
00:59:18.440
give a fuck in fact they'll be excited they might be like i've seen this one yeah one guy might care
00:59:23.320
one guy might be happy but even when i was just it's kind of a separate topic but similar in terms of
00:59:29.040
you know creating your the vibe you want to create so i think a lot of comics get caught in shit and
00:59:37.040
that's like even with me it's like for me it's like the chinese or like the olivia chow people are like
00:59:41.240
bro just do olivia or like before that i used to do a monkey face filter i don't know if you ever saw me
00:59:46.240
do that but i've seen the olivia chow a lot yeah but like the monkey face filter olivia chow on other
00:59:51.980
people's pages right which is sick i like if other i almost rather other people post it as long as
00:59:57.900
they tag me and some people come follow me but i don't get as many followers from those as different
01:00:01.960
as like stand-up clips sure or podcast clips but people i used to do this monkey face filter from
01:00:09.820
snapchat and i would do a chinese accent because the whole thing was playing on this story that came
01:00:14.360
out in 2021 or two about um you know uh the in wuhan they made monkeys that were half human half
01:00:24.980
animal or half human half monkey hybrid and so i and they were in china so i assumed you know
01:00:32.100
i'm the half human and i had the chinese accent and i would do some i had a couple of them go over a
01:00:37.700
million views because i did it in an airport on um martin luther king day or something or crazy
01:00:43.120
and i was just like doing the chinese accent walking around the airport being like
01:00:50.480
this uh oh it's juneteenth it was a happy juneteenth oh the bright people
01:00:55.020
and shit like that but like and it was funny but i don't you know what i mean like i want people to
01:01:01.360
like me for me at the end of the day maybe that's narcissistic but or maybe it's but it's it's it's it's
01:01:07.900
you you want to be an artist you don't want to just be a one-trick pony on any type of thing i have
01:01:12.940
the same thing where like i'll post videos of me like doing a gay character and then i'll get like
01:01:17.740
a good amount i got i got one to like hit really hard did like like eight million views and then
01:01:24.160
i did uh i did bricktown tulsa and i have a bit where i'm like you know i don't my wife asked me
01:01:33.220
how how would you feel if our kid turned out to be gay and i was like i don't i don't think it would
01:01:37.280
bother me to have a gay kid i feel like having a gay kid's a lot like having an android phone
01:01:41.020
like i don't care if you have an android text me it pops up green i won't judge you but like
01:01:46.740
i don't want one and i posted that and that did well but then i got a bunch of comments from people
01:01:53.660
being like i can't believe you did this i just followed you for your last video where i was
01:02:00.040
acting like a gay guy so a bunch of gay people followed me right the next clip is me being like
01:02:05.140
you can have a gay kid that's awesome but the for the real fans they're like they were like yeah i
01:02:12.920
get it but i have like i have videos of me like acting racist i have videos of me like acting like
01:02:19.140
you know acting like a gay guy farting cum weirdly my biggest video video of you farting cum
01:02:24.620
no it's a video of me acting like i fart there's no comment there but uh it's it's me acting like i'm
01:02:30.800
farting cum like people will still like i'll post a stand-up clip and the comments will be like there
01:02:35.360
go his babies because that's like the line at the end of the right but you know i'll post a clip of
01:02:40.940
me acting gay i'll post like a racist clip or whatever and it's like i don't i don't want like
01:02:46.940
a racist following i don't want uh too late for me i i want people who get it i want people to
01:02:54.420
understand that like i'm just fucking around this is funny i don't want people to like follow me and
01:02:58.900
think that i'm like this gay icon comedian it's like no go watch the other videos i'm clearly not
01:03:03.860
that yeah i also don't want people who are like following me to be like yeah this guy fucking
01:03:08.320
we should kick him out of the country yeah that's not i'm just fucking around also but then you know
01:03:14.080
i would say like the majority of people who watch it get it and that's really like if if one video
01:03:20.320
does well and brings in a group of people if the next one kind of shaves off the ones that don't get
01:03:26.520
that fine yeah no that's something that i am you know because once you have the kids and stuff and
01:03:33.020
then you start getting like or you have a following you're making money you're like okay what do i have
01:03:38.480
to say to make sure this doesn't go away but that's not art no then you're then you're just
01:03:43.320
like commercialized to the point and you're not even rich enough to be doing that like you know
01:03:47.680
what i mean like if somebody gave me 70 million or 10 million or even a million was like i'm giving
01:03:52.760
you a million dollars but no more talking about whatever i'd be like yeah all right yeah for a
01:03:59.320
million bucks sure you know people want to shit on uh bill burr i'd be like he changed it's like dude
01:04:04.780
his priorities change he's rich if i was that rich i wouldn't be like mad about immigration anymore kind
01:04:10.940
of always been that guy yeah he really hasn't changed that he never was like left or he was never
01:04:17.320
right he was never right wing at all he just would complain about people being losers he was just angry
01:04:22.440
and white yeah so people thought he was right wing you know like his special from like 2012 he was
01:04:28.580
talking about how like he was talking about like weird white people in race relations and like he's
01:04:33.360
talking about white people mostly like being shitty and and always like the the blowing up of the cruise
01:04:39.200
ships that's all white people stuff but my point is that when people go oh he changed it's like dude he
01:04:45.300
made money like let you should you should change you should go and make money yeah if being a millionaire
01:04:50.740
and then getting married and having kids doesn't change you you're fucking weird you're insane you're
01:04:55.380
a crazy person and that's my thing too where i'm like i you i think initially when you're gonna start
01:05:03.600
being yourself sometimes you're gonna take a hit sure so for me like i put out a video today where
01:05:10.860
i try it's it's funny and people definitely like it but it's not gonna be it's not gonna be viral
01:05:16.720
it's not gonna be but people will be like oh i like this guy maybe or maybe it's shit but then
01:05:22.200
you have to make that choice where it's do i just delete this and pretend like it never happened and
01:05:26.160
i'm an i'm a loser and i fucked up or do you just leave it you just leave it and then in two weeks
01:05:30.860
finally it hits 10k views and when somebody's scrolling this go that one's 10k this was nobody
01:05:35.460
cares no i mean dude it's it's they'll care they want you to do good they want you to they want to
01:05:41.000
laugh you want to go to go to your favorite comic who actually like not like a burr someone like
01:05:46.440
like a shane but somebody who actually like a like i love jordan jensen i think she's fucking
01:05:51.000
incredible she's one of the best comics working she she'll post she'll post like three clips a week
01:05:57.260
go through her page she'll have like she has like i think 700 800 000 followers
01:06:02.300
it's not uncommon for her to have a clip that does 40k to get like five percent of her following
01:06:10.280
has seen it it's like yeah people flop like your videos will sometimes flop to delete it
01:06:16.680
what's the point of deleting it like it doesn't do anything be like nobody saw that yeah nobody saw
01:06:24.380
it's like go through any people who are judging you for that aren't real fans too they're not the
01:06:29.120
people buying tickets they're not the people rooting for you they're the people rooting for
01:06:32.260
your downfall yeah so who gives a fuck what they think and go through the rest of your fucking page
01:06:37.580
i have other videos with i have dozens of videos with millions of views it's like yeah this one
01:06:44.020
did 5k tomorrow they might do and i might put something tomorrow you might learn something from
01:06:50.820
that format oh you want to try a new format maybe it isn't going to do a million views right away but
01:06:55.060
then you the next one you do with that format it's gonna do better and like um you know there's
01:07:00.740
like podcasts where the podcast itself has tens of thousands of views and then a clip from it
01:07:07.180
gets 10k yeah but who cares because the actual podcast has 30 000 people watching it the whole
01:07:14.460
thing comments hundreds of comments long form content viewership so who gives a shit and like
01:07:21.640
my old podcast i used to run a podcast with two dudes around here we had a podcast for like two years
01:07:26.940
and uh we had like the inverse problem we would we would get like audio and video we would get around
01:07:33.220
like like 2300 like at our best but the clips would go viral and it was like all right we'll just have
01:07:39.680
the inverse that's where i'm a podcast that doesn't really necessarily like have a crazy amount of
01:07:44.980
viewership and listenership but we can pull clips from it every week that gets followers and then from
01:07:50.520
that those filter down to people watching it it's a fucking business it's a grind and the
01:07:56.760
people who the horowitz guy and other haters and people who want to just be like like i'll say
01:08:03.460
something about politics people like you shouldn't stay in comedy it's like bro comedy is about paul it's
01:08:08.940
political now comedy is about whatever i can say anything my com you don't have to be an expert
01:08:14.360
clearly my thoughts filtered through my lens of whatever the fuck it is right i get like i hate when a
01:08:21.340
comic gets political it's like like i mean i i felt that way about a certain amount of comics that got
01:08:26.720
super liberal like around covid and whatever only only if they got liberal you're like i hate this
01:08:31.480
guy now well there were there were liberals who like they become constrictive started like grandstanding
01:08:36.520
it's like you were making poop jokes a year ago but it's also like yeah but that's what they think now
01:08:41.240
that's those are the thoughts that are going around in their head it is weird when like it is liberal
01:08:46.580
comics liberal comics fuck themselves because they would be like they were pro censorship and they
01:08:52.180
didn't realize that like i or a right-wing comic would be like oh you're funny you want to come
01:08:56.600
do my show and then they won't do it because they're worried of the backlash they'll get from
01:09:00.520
their like community of other loser comics to coming and it's like so i'm not discriminating you
01:09:07.020
yeah your own friends are the ones just potentially discriminating you for stepping out of line
01:09:12.640
but i can never do your show i'll never get invited and even and if i did no right-wing guy is
01:09:17.920
gonna be like bro you would actually go and do that they'd be like that's hilarious that you did
01:09:21.620
that yeah good for them for letting you go and do that people also gotta stop fucking especially like
01:09:26.820
i mean you're at a different level where like you're selling your own tickets but even then like
01:09:31.220
you're selling your own tickets based off of just your own shit it's your own like social media presence
01:09:36.640
and podcasts and that kind of thing i think like people even people like someone like yourself or like
01:09:42.260
anybody at my level people gotta stop worrying about like canceled shit yeah like oh like i've
01:09:47.840
had i've had people in my comments like not comics but people in my comments like bro you're gonna
01:09:51.960
get canceled from this shit it's like canceled from what dog doing showcases at roscoe's what the fuck
01:09:58.480
are you talking about maybe no but they're cool with me there there is uh what am i gonna get
01:10:05.160
canceled dude people live such depressing lives that they just want to strike the fear of god into
01:10:11.300
people that they think don't have the fear of god in them so they see somebody with like a free spirit
01:10:16.200
just being like fuck it i'm gonna hopefully make money off just saying whatever the fuck i want
01:10:19.840
doing stand-up and living my life and they're like bro it might all go away that could like i had
01:10:25.720
people being like i i said something about which wasn't even really pro-israel i was just saying that
01:10:29.900
candace owens let down a lot of old jewish men who liked her because when she was on ben shapiro
01:10:35.520
old jews were like oh candace she's good looking this is a hot piece of chocolate yeah and like
01:10:41.040
they were and i made a comment like they were becoming less racist and for some reason that
01:10:45.640
video got a ton of views and it was being shown to people who hate that kind of content which is
01:10:50.620
part of what social media is but they were coming on and then there were people who are followers of
01:10:56.060
mine but agree with her like to the point where they're like i can't be a fan of you if you don't
01:11:01.080
agree with her and it's like bro like i don't even know what i what i don't agree with watching her
01:11:08.060
because it's to me that would be crazy like who's watching a full episode of any of that yeah i've
01:11:14.260
seen clips of like shapiro and and like candace owens and whoever and it's like who the fuck is
01:11:21.360
watching a full hour it's for boomers really and or just like really really poor insane people but
01:11:27.260
some guy messaged me and was like you know i used to think you were cool and then i found out you're
01:11:31.920
jewish and i think that you're just going on a terrible trajectory now and i was like
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bro what the that's great like to say that to somebody is insane yeah that's a crazy thing like
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like i've i've been fans of things my whole life i've never once tried to reach out in a maybe in a
01:11:50.420
positive light like i've done things like when i for comics that i was like fans of i was like
01:11:54.680
love everything you do you know when i was 23 or whatever but drunkenly dm'd a bunch of nba players
01:12:01.920
and been like you're shit or you're sick no i i have i sent a full paragraph to bam at a bio who's
01:12:08.880
like the all-star center for the miami heat and i've been like i also grew up with a single mother
01:12:13.860
brother well that's just kind of cool too because that's people's like outlet and that's like their
01:12:19.420
therapy in a way is like yo i look up to this guy and i tried recently today i spent two hours
01:12:24.880
going through all my messages because i have so many backlog of dms just like the request when i posted
01:12:30.240
like my marriage and my son's birth people like congrats mazel tov whatever and i have to go
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through and um and i didn't and when you go through there are some of those paragraphs where people
01:12:41.680
like bro like i literally was in the hospital i thought i was gonna die and i saw one of your
01:12:45.740
videos and it just like made me feel better or like shit and you you should respond to those people
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because they matter yeah yeah those people care i correspond with like there's a girl in canada
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actually who's like your videos like legitimately are one of the few things that make me happy
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yeah like that's fucking cool yeah like that's a cool thing that's but there is like the gary
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vaynerchuk you know gary vaynerchuk yeah dude that guy's a fucking retard yeah but he has some good
01:13:12.460
advice sometimes dude that one of his fucking like i hate that dude for a fucking personal reason
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he also just does like personal reason yes but he uh like he just says stupid shit like
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you should be taking pictures of your house and turning them into nfts for the metaverse like
01:13:30.020
shut the fuck up what once nft his nft once that shit started going around his advice started getting
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really stupid i think but there was like a full year where he was like start the next big thing you
01:13:41.760
got to start buying real estate in the metaverse like the sims what do you mean yeah i'm not but i don't
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i don't like that dude because he was uh this is like back in like 2018 when like tiktok was like
01:13:53.420
brand new and he did this like seminar for a uh for whatever reason the ad agency i worked at
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had a bunch of jewelry clients i don't know how they fell into that niche but they did i had like
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20 clients of my own that were all just jewelry stores and brands and like a lot of that yeah a lot
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a lot of a lot of budget negotiations but we uh the he spoke at like this convention
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every fucking client of mine was like i think i gotta start doing you need to start making tiktoks
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for my business and like i would have to pull up like statistics and especially in like 2018 2019
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i was like they're less than five percent of the people who are on tiktok at that point in time
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are over the age of 25 you sell the cheapest thing you sell is like a ten thousand dollar bracelet
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who the fuck is 25 and can buy that like don't focus on what like you don't have the budget for
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another thing and just i had to he had i had to talk down so many like retarded 50 year old jewish dudes
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from being like gary vanyuchuk said that tiktok is very important like yeah go dance in your store
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go do go do a gay little dance with your jewelry on i don't give a shit there was one maybe that guy
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you know that one jewelry store in new york that's quite popular on instagram and tiktok where the guy
01:15:15.660
gives away like gold bars and stuff like he'll literally be like what's your favorite color or
01:15:20.700
something and they'll just answer and he'll be like here's a thousand dollar piece of gold no and it's
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like super viral but it's pretty sick that's i think that but every business you know gary's right
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though every business does need it you're a plumber you should be making fucking tiktoks you're screwing
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shit content yeah my only issue was these people were on the phone with me every week telling me that
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like you needed to make it i needed to make it but also like you got billed by billable hours and
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it's like i can't you want me to make content that you're already bitching that you that your budget
01:15:53.740
is stretched too thin you want to stretch your already thin budget to an app that at the time
01:15:58.660
none of your target demo is on right nobody nobody who can afford the shit that you sell
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is on was on tiktok in 2018 tiktok's so big with boomers now though it's crazy oh it's huge it's big
01:16:10.640
now now i would be like well now i would just repurpose the shit that they do for this was like
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around the time that like instagram reels like even came out so i would have been like now i just like
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yeah we'll just repurpose it it'll take me five minutes just take the videos and put them there
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but at the time i was like dude we're not doing tiktok it's a waste of fucking time and it was at
01:16:30.720
that point in time but gary gary v just says dumb shit like the nft shit the metaverse dog what the
01:16:39.080
fuck are you talking about that was a that was the thing when i started comedy there were a lot of like
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older dudes who were telling me like you're gonna do comedy in the middle i was like i'll fucking kill
01:16:48.220
myself if i have to do vr comedy i'm gonna fucking kill myself i think those comics were hoping that
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would be the future so that they could just do comedy from their house and not have to do comedy
01:16:59.000
properly anymore yeah for sure but the one gary vaynerchuk thing that i stuck with me that i like
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is you shouldn't let the positive comments affect you or the or the negative because if like the positive
01:17:11.660
ones bring you up the negative ones are going to bring you right down so you need to stay in the
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middle so i think that that's a good piece of advice because we get a lot and i'm guilty of
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this shit like sometimes like i'll fucking just somebody will message me something at the wrong
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time and i'll look at it the wrong time and i'm like bro this pissed me off yeah you know what i
01:17:30.440
mean and then you want to screenshot it and tweet it and be like fuck this guy and like find his
01:17:35.140
business and ruin his life and that's crazy and that's what they want so you do have to be chill
01:17:42.200
sometimes i like i respond to that guy i wasn't like mad at him or whatever but it's like i think
01:17:49.280
there's and that's facebook too like the facebook fans will straight up be like bro i don't i just
01:17:57.980
like a lot of i my facebook fan base is newer so they're probably like i don't know who you are like
01:18:02.160
why the fuck am i but you have to have like you're you want fans to have longer attention spans like
01:18:11.120
you don't want to every fan coming from tiktok because that's those that's why some of my shows
01:18:16.980
it's just people yelling the whole time yeah you know do the fucking thing do i'm bored do it because
01:18:23.420
yeah you have no attention span you've already looked at your phone four times since you've been
01:18:26.800
here for sure and you want guys who are like dude i listen to your long form content in the car at the
01:18:32.540
gym like i i share your reels but i like watch your specials like i watch your long because those
01:18:38.940
people are going to spend more money they're going to be more loyal they're going to care about you
01:18:42.900
genuinely that's my biggest that's my biggest fear of like this stuff that i have like it's a it's a
01:18:50.020
real like uh like catch 22 of like the shit that i have that blows up is me either like doing a voice
01:18:57.200
or doing like being being like a dumbass in front of the camera like that's the shit that gets like
01:19:02.180
millions of views and what worries me is like people will come see me do stand-up and it's not that
01:19:08.520
it's not me like acting gay or like acting black like i don't do like a black voice or like a gay voice
01:19:16.420
or like anything it's shit that like i think if you find that kind of thing funny you'll find the
01:19:21.340
jokes and like the material that i do funny but i am worried that people will like those videos come
01:19:27.360
see me and be like way to voices this is the social media tiktok brain though because traditionally it's
01:19:34.260
always been that i mean fucking look at bob saget did stand-up and people weren't going to the stand-up
01:19:40.020
being like well this is going to be clean right they knew that he was he knew dirty comic they knew he was
01:19:45.380
a dirty comic playing a straightly you know straight edge person yeah on tv and same or like i mean
01:19:52.540
well what's his face he was just uh he was putting drugs in people's drinks what's his name cosby yeah
01:20:01.400
he was that was the he was shredded he was straight edge both ways but his comedy was still mean his
01:20:07.300
comedy was very like pull your pants up like yeah it wasn't very it wasn't like it was like mean and
01:20:14.380
real stories and yeah he has the jokes about the spanish fly put the spanish fly in a drink
01:20:20.320
the the handle the whole like hannibal burris thing that like kind of sparked him like people
01:20:26.140
like reopening those investigations like when what happened to him hannibal burris like went out and
01:20:31.580
like i guess bill cosby had some joke about like you know like if black people could act better maybe
01:20:37.480
we would have a better place in society and then hannibal burris like he had a viral clip of him being
01:20:42.320
like yeah maybe that's true but also this is coming from a guy who raped 12 women and like that went
01:20:48.060
super viral but like a big like issue that a lot of like comics had was like cosby was like this dirty
01:20:55.780
fucking guy and not that you should be admitting to rape on stage shouldn't rape anyways but it was
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like he was this like mean piece of shit who was like raping women and he was like he was really
01:21:07.960
critical of like black people eddie murphy he would call and tell him to stop saying this and stop
01:21:13.580
saying that and he he would like go do like speeches in chicago and be like you kids are never gonna leave
01:21:20.180
your situation if you can't stop calling each other the n-word he's like you call each other that that's
01:21:25.360
what you'll always be that can't stop doing it he's this mean you have to do it otherwise you're going
01:21:29.960
yeah do it to a beat you'll the chinese are doing he uh but he was this old like mean crotchety old man
01:21:38.400
and then he would go on stage and he'd be like i'm a family happy guy it's like no you're not you're
01:21:42.380
a you're an animal you're a monster and you know at least bob saget would like do the opposite yeah he
01:21:49.560
was like no i'm an animal on stage i think the people who were yeah meaner on stage are a little
01:21:54.600
uh cooler and more chill off stage but but aside from all that my main point is that
01:22:03.160
the older generation of comics got away with like yeah that eddie murphy plays this character or this
01:22:10.180
comic plays that character and on tv or in the movies but when we go see him we're going to see him
01:22:15.780
and we know it's about that and now it's it's not that it's like dance monkey and it's like bro
01:22:24.180
what the fuck and then you're like can you guys sign up for my patreon it's like no but that's why
01:22:29.100
the guys who have the big patreon followings they know how to find those kind of fans that are like
01:22:33.800
legit fans of comedy of podcasts they're what they're more chill people and you kind of want
01:22:40.040
i never thought about that when i first started my following because i was just like like i said my
01:22:45.840
baby's born like let's go like what do i have to do chinese accent is how many wigs do i gotta put on
01:22:51.260
where i don't give a fuck yeah right but that's okay to go you have to go through that yeah for
01:22:55.120
sure and fuck all the guilt of like oh well you used to be like this yeah so did every comic dude
01:23:00.480
like yeah george carlin like his main if you read his story or his book or you watch any biographies
01:23:06.140
on him or you know anything about him or richard prior same thing they used to go on those shows
01:23:11.480
those ed merv griffin shows where they would have to be straight laced and they would do a little
01:23:18.560
hello and then richard prior would have to pretend to be like a good little black boy and hello sir
01:23:25.840
yes and george carlin would play like that and then in reality they were doing drugs they were
01:23:32.980
partying and they weren't talking about any of that and then when they started talking about that
01:23:36.880
and started talking about being rebellious yeah there were people who were like this guy's falling
01:23:41.900
off he's not what but dude like i forget if it's richard prior or i think it's richard prior he
01:23:48.580
got to the point where he was doing those that circuit of shows on tv mainly yeah and not even
01:23:56.640
before carson like merv griffin like when he was young he was only like early 20s and he had like the
01:24:02.900
perfect hair like the perm and everything and and then he got to the point where he was doing vegas
01:24:08.460
and he just walked off a vegas show i forget if it was him or carlin one of them and they just
01:24:12.880
they were like yeah this i don't like this anymore i want to do my own thing i'd rather take it down a
01:24:18.920
notch i would rather make less money for a minute or yeah and go find this art because once you find
01:24:23.440
that art and start looking inward to yourself and what do i actually want to be for everybody what
01:24:29.300
kind of artist what kind of creator do i want to be what kind of comedian do i want to be then people
01:24:35.220
really start being interested because they're like oh he's enjoying himself now yeah yeah the
01:24:39.600
chinese accent's cool but like oh now he's like he's in he's into what he's doing do yeah like from
01:24:46.900
time to time yeah you can still pull it out but i think there is something and i'm just using that
01:24:51.800
as an example because that's kind of what i think of as my you know crutch or whatever that or people
01:24:59.940
see it as a crutch but i don't even want yeah because i'll do it like once i was doing it once a
01:25:03.440
week once every couple weeks but it's i just it's not even my most viral shit it's not what people
01:25:09.140
especially my american fans like a lot of them think it's funny and like if i have a if i have
01:25:13.860
a packed room of 300 people four guys out there who are probably going to be the most vocal guys
01:25:19.200
are going to be like we loved your olivia chow shit but the rest of them are like bro but i like
01:25:24.120
legit watch all your your specials pods yeah that's what you want for sure so anyway what we could
01:25:32.900
we could kind of call it but where are you people where do people find you what uh at jeffy d comedy
01:25:39.560
on instagram i don't have a website how do you spell it jeff ed j e f f y d comedy okay nice do you have
01:25:47.560
a website no i need to get one yeah i'll get one once i start fucking like i've i should be on tour by
01:25:54.500
the end of this year i gotta build it and then they'll come i gotta work on some b clubs and people
01:25:59.820
who will give me you know do some more local content in austin get a little more austin people
01:26:04.680
behind you and then yeah i'll be all right money here yeah make some money here i'm doing all right
01:26:09.120
here i got a couple shows uh if you're in austin come come to a show come fucking next week we'll be
01:26:15.460
and i brought jeff i brought jeff to yuck yucks in your falls that was really fun so you guys might
01:26:20.340
recognize him from there he was killing it and hopefully bring him to some more shit and uh yeah he's
01:26:25.860
a he's good shit he's a dad as well and um we're out here in austin grinding it because
01:26:31.680
we're guys with followings that haven't really gotten a lot of help you know what i mean like
01:26:36.080
there's comics out there that people like on big podcasts every week are like have you heard of
01:26:41.220
this guy this guy's amazing and that and his following doesn't even grow because people like
01:26:45.560
bro we know what you're doing you know so i think you got to grind it out on your own i mean you
01:26:51.280
i help other people are gonna help but um for sure like i had help from tony hinchcliffe initially
01:26:59.440
when so when i came to austin the first time my following had just been deleted my instagram was
01:27:05.860
deleted at 12k and i were i was so so sad about it and i was trying to get it back and i had some
01:27:12.980
quotes people were telling me it was gonna be ten thousand dollars to get it back and all this shit
01:27:16.560
um and uh so and i was sad because i had already planned to go to austin i was like i'm gonna show
01:27:23.780
up with 12k sick showed up with like 1500 like a retard but it just had the fucking focus to and i
01:27:32.760
did kill tony and i did so well that i gained that whole 10k back and then i went back to canada and
01:27:38.660
grinded for two years until i came back here so it's a long game and um people listening i really
01:27:46.740
appreciate you guys sticking around and being the best fans patreon there's gonna be another
01:27:50.900
patreon episode dropping tomorrow so go check that out patreon.com slash ben bankus tour and all my
01:27:57.600
tickets are available at bankus.com and i appreciate you guys thank you good night