Bannon's War Room - August 07, 2025


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Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

153.57207

Word Count

8,261

Sentence Count

14

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Bill Dahue, a leading voice in the anti-secrecy campaign against the catholic church in the United States, joins us on the show to discuss his new report on the Church and its dealings with the U.S. Federal Bureau of Intelligence (Fbi) and its efforts to smear and smear the Catholic Church.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
00:00:10.560 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
00:00:17.140 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to
00:00:21.200 do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen
00:00:24.320 and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any
00:00:32.320 of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
00:00:39.600 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:00:54.320 good evening wednesday 6th of august anno domini 2025 it's the feast of the transfiguration
00:01:02.920 today when the catholic liturgy recalls the transfiguration of christ between before i
00:01:08.880 think it was peter james and john um great miracle great uh revelation of jesus christ's
00:01:16.180 divine inner life there and before the disciples this show what we try to do on on every wednesday
00:01:24.160 between six and seven it's just dig in ever so slightly to some of the things that perhaps the
00:01:29.960 other elements of the mainstream press don't particularly cover to do with the goings-on
00:01:34.460 really of the catholic church though we do talk about certain things in the protestant sphere
00:01:38.860 uh when they occur we love the catholic church we recognize the catholic church almost single-handedly
00:01:47.360 built western civilization christendom certainly for the first thousand years arguably for the first
00:01:52.900 1500 years after the after the birth of christ um and if we are losing certain battles
00:02:01.660 in the religious and spiritual realm which we are doing that is because i think the catholic church
00:02:07.740 has largely been absent without leave since the second vatican council now to to illustrate
00:02:15.680 some of the ways that the catholic church has been absent without leave i'm joined by our regular
00:02:22.660 guest today this your frank walker and jenny holland um liz you you'll remember the the leading
00:02:32.320 lumini that that is bill donahue um a great voice out there basically the catholic uh version of is it
00:02:41.420 abraham foxman who's always out there sort of lobbying um for for the jewish lobby in american
00:02:47.060 um public life bill donahue did that for many years many decades um for the catholic church now he's got
00:02:53.380 this report out this analysis out right um about the the revelations that are coming to light
00:03:02.320 thanks to the presence of cash patel as as a fbi director this is folks this is a great example of
00:03:11.360 of elections having consequences um this is really sort of something that the war room has been on
00:03:17.180 and militantly right from the beginning when you started to come out uh to do with how the fbi has
00:03:23.220 been focused on radical traditionalist catholics of of which i proudly consider myself to be one
00:03:29.960 liz tell me uh what what what what is uh bill donahue been um bringing to light specifically uh to do
00:03:36.940 with this outrageous conduct of the u.s government well so bill donahue um issued a statement regarding
00:03:43.780 um a very important interim staff report from the committee on the judiciary a jim jordan's weaponization
00:03:52.460 committee and it was just issued on july 22nd of this year um so the title of it and i think it's
00:04:01.160 actually they're kind of soft peddling it how the biden ray fbi manufactured a false narrative of
00:04:08.760 catholics americans as violent extremists and what's really interesting about this article is this is an
00:04:15.820 ever evolving scandal politicization warfare against the catholic church in america and bill donahue was
00:04:26.420 commenting on it i've been following this story excuse the pun religiously because i'm extremely
00:04:32.660 concerned also filing foia against the fbi trying to find out get to the bottom of this what i would call
00:04:41.120 a concerted effort um by the fbi to target and weaponize traditional catholics as radical terror
00:04:51.020 terrorists violent terrorists and you you may remember that the report there was a memo they called it the
00:04:58.940 richmond memo and just to give people background um the richmond memo um was issued in i think it was
00:05:06.660 january of 2023 and we know about the richmond memo fbi memo only because kyle sarafin an fbi whistleblower
00:05:17.880 released it to the public and initially this richmond memo uh was from this particular fbi agent um and or an
00:05:31.300 analyst actually where they were talking about in warning about traditional catholics posing as an
00:05:39.200 extremist threat and could be considered potential terrorist well there was near you know nearly a
00:05:46.720 firestorm when this dropped on um on the american public and on the catholic church uh you'll remember
00:05:54.320 of course that chris ray initially came out and said he was aghast at this memo he also
00:06:01.200 commented that um it was a single product from a rogue agent um now we know now we know and there
00:06:10.460 have been two house house committee reports on this about the breach of religious freedom by the fbi
00:06:17.280 and with each report we find out now ben that more and more activity was um investigative activity
00:06:27.160 was being conducted by the fbi to target it it was not one single product it was a product that went to
00:06:34.320 the louisville office and was investigated to the um uh seattle washington office um also they were
00:06:42.820 coordinating with the london fbi office not only there was widespread use of this memo by the fbi but
00:06:52.940 additionally additionally additionally what happened was the investigator of uh the fbi and the richmond
00:06:59.860 office went to a catholic priest um in richmond started interrogating him the priest said i really
00:07:07.620 as it was his right i need to um consult with an attorney he was asking him specifically about one of his
00:07:15.860 parishioners and um as a result of the priest saying i want to talk to an attorney and my supervisor
00:07:24.040 um the fbi began an investigation of this priest looking at his travel records and his bank records
00:07:30.460 this is you know this is you know targeting somebody who um in their view does not appear to be
00:07:37.480 you know cooperative it's the power of the fbi i mean this priest frankly everybody is very lucky
00:07:43.320 lucky that there wasn't um fbi placing remotely child porn on his computer this is an absolute
00:07:51.520 scandal and what we need to do is and i don't think we've seen the last of this um the there was
00:07:59.160 and the finding was that there was absolutely no legitimate basis for this memorandum the fbi couldn't
00:08:05.780 even define the uh what is a radical traditional catholic um the two fbi agents who co-authored it
00:08:14.400 said that the source and i'm curious about this was the southern poverty law center um but additionally
00:08:21.180 no fbi agents have been fired over this report so let me ask you this um because my understanding of
00:08:33.380 this is is that the fbi in framing these surreptitious investigations on basically just ordinary catholics
00:08:41.880 who um who who take their faith very seriously um which i mean all catholics should all protestants
00:08:49.760 should uh let's just get let's just say that straight away um but there were certain articles
00:08:56.700 out there and i just throw this one up as a because this headline is pretty astonishing how extremist
00:09:03.220 gun culture is trying to co-opt the rosary um here's something tell me your give me your opinion on this
00:09:12.320 given that the present fbi director is cash patel this a very good friend of the of this transmission of
00:09:20.420 the war room um do you think it would be a good idea for the fbi now to uncover the to see whether
00:09:28.620 these articles were being planted by the fbi in the mainstream press i think that one might have been
00:09:35.160 in the atlantic but i can double check that um to see the fbi it was in the atlantic to see if the fbi
00:09:41.760 was was involved behind the scenes in planting these articles which it could then cite as evidence to um
00:09:49.160 to uh to to to the wire taps and the bugging and the following and everything else that the fbi is
00:09:54.760 famous for do you think that would be a fruitful line of inquiry right now for director patel
00:10:02.280 absolutely we know that there's a circular firing story the fbi and cia through operation mockingbird
00:10:11.080 continues to plant articles and then uses those articles as justification for opening an investigation
00:10:18.540 um and you know this what is especially troubling is now we learn and every every month or two now we
00:10:26.160 learn that the headquarters fbi headquarters was aware of this investigation and um and was given a
00:10:34.920 go for go for it pat on the back and i so i have a lot of questions one question is specifically what
00:10:42.500 you point out what was the extent of this um operation this weaponization against um catholic church and
00:10:50.680 there was talk that it was also going to extend to the mainline catholic churches not just to
00:10:55.840 traditional sspx chapels um additionally i think we need to ask the question um who really did motivate
00:11:06.500 the um and trigger this investigation this witch hunt against the catholics and folks i'm going to
00:11:12.840 give you free legal advice um traditionus custodos was promulgated in 2021 july of 2021 um we knew that
00:11:22.480 the catholic church in america was full behind um moving forward on the tlm and when traditionus custodos
00:11:30.660 was um issued by pope francis there was a suppression of the mass was the catholic church
00:11:37.320 the vatican using the fbi um to weaponize and to um underscore traditionus custodos was there an
00:11:46.480 imitate intimidation campaign inspired by any members of the catholic hierarchy or at the vatican we know
00:11:53.640 that that the clinton campaign was coordinating with the vatican i think there are a lot of unanswered
00:11:59.960 questions here and i think this is just the beginning and just because we have cash patel
00:12:05.080 in the fbi there is no reason to take um our foot off the off the pedal we have got to get to the
00:12:12.100 bottom of this and who was behind it and i think there should be civil lawsuits filed against the fbi
00:12:18.560 um on behalf of the sspx um to get to the bottom of what this this campaign against the catholic church
00:12:27.720 in america was at the hand of the fbi
00:12:30.420 lizio this is something you've been mentioning constantly on the show um and just to make the
00:12:36.800 point absolutely explicit your question here is that was pope francis bergoli cardinal bergoli
00:12:44.680 was he and his regime in the holy see working behind the scenes with the the fbi to persecute
00:12:53.920 traditional catholics because of the opposition those catholics were giving to the to the vatican's
00:12:58.940 modernist agenda so in the same light we said that perhaps that uh the fbi director cash patel might
00:13:05.920 want to direct an internal investigation uh with regards of whether these articles and thanks very
00:13:12.960 much to denver for putting that article up there um just a few moments ago on the screen from the
00:13:18.160 atlantic whilst the fbi behind the scenes working to get these fake articles planted in the mainstream
00:13:25.740 media which it could then cite as justification for launching these uh surreptitious um persecutions
00:13:35.060 on taxpaying and believing americans second question therefore is perhaps marco rubia secretary of
00:13:45.420 state might want to direct an internal inquiry to go into the vaults in the archives and find out
00:13:51.720 exactly what the vatican was doing behind the scenes with the biden regime um to coordinate on there
00:13:59.440 if there were if there's a paper trail if there's a smoking gun liz yore um and i i pay full tribute to
00:14:06.520 you because you've been mentioning this from the beginning but if there is a paper trail there that
00:14:10.420 suggests that the holy see the diplomatic operation of the vatican was working hand in
00:14:15.360 glove with the with the corrupt weaponized uh fbi um of the of the the unlamented biden regime
00:14:23.900 that i think will be absolutely astonishing uh i'm sure there would be legal things to follow
00:14:28.920 liz yore please stay with us i know you've got something more to come back on on the show later
00:14:34.140 to do with how we are losing the the culture wars largely in part to the absence
00:14:39.680 of the catholic church but thank you for for that reading stay with us uh liz we'll come back to you
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00:16:16.840 jenny holland um there's some development here in the uk my my beloved homeland uh of this poor
00:16:27.740 chaplain of a catholic school chaplain who was sacked after telling children they were free to question
00:16:36.740 lgbt policies and told that he um he's still living in shame and spiritual exile six years later
00:16:46.640 can this possibly be true yes apparently it is true um a man by the name of uh the reverend dr
00:16:55.400 bernard randall was the chaplain at a private school called trent college in uh derbyshire um and he as a
00:17:05.960 church of england uh chaplain gave a sermon in 2019 to the student body in which he told them that it was
00:17:14.760 okay to question gender ideology for his trouble he was sacked by the school not only was he sacked
00:17:23.220 it gets even crazier ben he was referred by the school to the uk's terrorism prevention program called
00:17:32.240 prevent so he was actually referred to a counterterrorism program for stating that children in
00:17:40.720 in as a as a man of god as a as a chaplain children did not have to follow uh gender ideology and they
00:17:49.360 were allowed to question it thankfully prevent in quickly dismissed the concerns um and he had to be
00:17:56.000 reinstated by the school this is in 2019 however and when covid came along a year later he was made
00:18:02.200 redundant um after he was made redundant um the local diocese uh the bishop um of his area refused to renew
00:18:13.720 his license to preach um essentially nullifying his uh his chaplain possibilities um and have left him
00:18:23.340 out in the cold ever since and the reason they did not renew his permission essentially to conduct his
00:18:31.880 vocation was and i quote uh things that are controversial could significantly cause harm to
00:18:41.080 children that was said by a safeguarding officer within the church of england um who referred to
00:18:48.460 the um reverend's policy position on gay issues as your views meaning you know this safeguarding officer
00:18:57.640 said put those views on to him as if they were his personal views and not the views of christianity
00:19:02.900 um and as such the bishop uh refused to reinstate him now as you said in your remarks he has called this
00:19:11.340 uh spiritual exile i mean this is and also he can't he has not been able to get fine full-time work since
00:19:18.120 so this is a yet another example of the church of england um elites basically functioning not as a church
00:19:26.420 but as one gigantic human resources department um which follows the rules of a secular bureaucracy
00:19:34.700 that is captured by uh transgender and gay ideology and not in any way by the the bible from which it is
00:19:46.060 supposed to base its entire ethos i can't i can't every time i see one of these stories from the church
00:19:51.580 of england i am shocked and the absolute demoralization campaign that they have waged against
00:19:58.880 this unfortunate reverend really should be held up as a national shame this guy is um is married with
00:20:07.220 children as well he's got a daughter um yes and i think i think the fight that he's doing here uh is
00:20:15.000 absolutely heroic and all protestants following the show um can be justifiably proud of the of the
00:20:20.860 heroic stance he has taken there's a similar parallel i can't help but see a parallel here
00:20:26.980 between what's going on in the church of england and the catholic church as well is that you have a lot
00:20:31.400 of priests chaplains vicars on the ground who try sort of as hard as like as they can to inculcate the
00:20:41.700 faith in their flock and they're constantly kicked in the back of the knees by their bishops and hierarchs
00:20:49.640 tell me a little bit more if you wouldn't mind about the the the hierarchy the bishops um in the
00:20:56.140 church of england uh uh has anybody in the hierarchy been supporting him uh not as not that's been
00:21:05.640 reported publicly um and i wouldn't be surprised if none are doing so privately either um i mean this is
00:21:12.540 this is an issue where ordinary people um you know the the people closest to the ground are expressing
00:21:20.780 good faith religious views and they're not just getting kicked in the back of the knees i mean
00:21:26.220 they're they're they're they're getting hounded out of their jobs um and they're having their lives
00:21:31.140 destroyed in ireland there's a teacher uh not a he's not a a reverend he's a lay person but he's a
00:21:39.680 a fundamentalist christian who spent 500 days in prison in dublin because he refused to abide by
00:21:48.920 the school's transgender pronoun policy um and then you know they they they kind of they kept after him
00:21:55.700 for his activism he he caused trouble he refused to stay silent and he refused to follow their
00:22:01.840 bureaucratic orders and he spent 500 days in prison i mean the the fact that ordinary people cannot
00:22:09.660 get their common sense viewed views aired because they're being hunted down by petty bureaucrats i
00:22:18.340 mean i wonder do the petty bureaucrats have any kind of of belief at all or are they just trying to
00:22:24.800 cover their behinds i just want to flag up something that we hit last week on the show um about this job
00:22:32.340 that was advertised uh on the department for work or pensions website uh inviting people with degrees
00:22:39.300 saying that the position was limited to uh to folks with um degrees in sharia law so on the one hand
00:22:47.420 you have this absolute accommodation for islam now on official uh formal governmental websites and yet
00:22:56.340 christians uh are being as you just mentioned imprisoned for 500 days for incorrectly using a pronoun um
00:23:05.260 and i just want to point out before we move on because there's something else in the states that
00:23:08.600 that's related to this um that i could quickly want to hit before the break but this guy um the reverend
00:23:15.940 randall bernard randall um when he said that that students were free to question lgbt
00:23:23.000 policies his college referred referred to the government's prevention of a prevent counterterrorism
00:23:32.680 program for delivering that sermon to peoples so that that is now considered to be within the
00:23:38.240 realms of terrorism just questioning the ideology just questioning yes i can i just say quickly
00:23:44.040 the obvious it's obvious now that transgender and gay ideology is the new religion it is the new
00:23:51.580 religion for a large part of the bureaucracy and for the rest of the bureaucracy it seems to be islam
00:23:56.540 that's where we are in the uk well you know the the importance is that these people who are trying
00:24:03.540 to change the culture and and are succeeding um absolutely have to have their hands on the formation
00:24:10.860 of the next generation on the minds of the next generation otherwise it's absolutely hopeless and
00:24:15.640 that's why they're being so militant in the two minutes that we have before we go to the break tell me
00:24:19.520 something just a quick bit if you wouldn't mind about the seventh u.s court of appeals uh being on the
00:24:26.360 split decision uh regarding this music teacher who felt uncomfortable about using transgender
00:24:32.980 students preferred names yeah so this is a slightly more hopeful story a teacher in indiana um had his
00:24:42.320 lawsuit against his school district reinstated um by a trump appointed judge um and i mean i think
00:24:49.380 i think well obviously the case still has to play out um it is it just goes to show how important
00:24:56.580 judges are because you know as these things proceed through the courts if you get a uh zealot judge who
00:25:04.540 is 100 on board with transgender ideology or uh one who would agree with the fbi memo that you were
00:25:10.940 talking about earlier um that portrays all catholics and all christians as inherent terrorists then the
00:25:17.840 people like this are going to be hounded out of work like this reverend has been in england
00:25:22.040 and you say you point out that this is actually uh more hopeful in america simply because president
00:25:30.880 trump is making such great appointments to the to the judicial bench right across the country right
00:25:38.400 yes yes trump trump is the game changer trump certainly is the the the game changer i think i think liz yore
00:25:49.000 wants us to come in on on this quick point before we go to the break liz you've got 60 seconds
00:25:53.920 my comment is is that this story that um jenny has talked about is courage is really found
00:26:02.840 in unlikely places and who said that jr tolkien and when you think of the people yes you judges are
00:26:10.240 very important but if you don't have music teachers the average teacher fighting these fights like enoch
00:26:17.200 burke in ireland and kyle seraphim the fbi whistleblower and will goodman the pro-lifer if you
00:26:25.100 don't have the average people stepping into the breach um we're not going to win these fights so
00:26:30.920 shout out to the quiet brave soldier civilian soldier who does the hard work this is this is
00:26:39.360 the importance of fulfilling our lord's mandate of being the yeast that makes the bread rice so small
00:26:46.560 in quantity but so absolutely dominant in effect once we hand our lives over to faith in our lord
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00:31:40.960 ago one of the the most memorable elements of my spiritual life i think it was about 2020 2004
00:31:48.480 was the release of mel gibson's film the passion of the christ i must have seen that film about 20
00:31:55.300 times extremely moving extremely powerful there are some developments there are certain rumors that
00:32:01.000 come out from time to time but there are some developments apparently and newsmax has the latest
00:32:05.900 on um on the sequel to this frank walker tell us what uh what are the the latest revolutions quite
00:32:14.200 interesting i think well they've uh you know he's been talking about this for a long time that he was
00:32:19.980 going to make this movie he's had the sequel coming out and you know he's he's had a lot of different
00:32:25.260 projects that he's has completed and sometimes he floats ideas so we don't know what to think but now
00:32:30.440 apparently it seems to be happening um because the filming is getting ready to start in october
00:32:35.380 for the pat the resurrection of the christ and not only will it be a follow-up to the previous movie but
00:32:41.320 it's going to be in two parts the first one's going to be released on good friday in 2027 and the second
00:32:48.060 will be 40 days later on the on the feast of the ascension and you know it's just like the first time
00:32:53.500 around when he when he did this movie it was it was risky it was his own company it was a lot of his
00:33:00.500 own money and he i don't know if you remember but he had tremendous pushback remember the pushback
00:33:06.220 that he had from the uh the industry i think he had trouble when he was trying to get distribution
00:33:11.180 uh people were saying that the movie was anti-semitic and uh but then he got it out there and it was
00:33:17.120 an enormous hit set like a record for an independent film anyway so the films you know they they they ask
00:33:23.680 for comment and they're not getting a lot of comment they don't know if jim uh caviezel who played
00:33:28.280 jesus is going to be jesus they don't know who the actors are a lot of the stuff is very close to the
00:33:34.040 best but they have to have it all all put together already because they're getting ready to start
00:33:37.540 filming any day now um it's a it's going to be a a theologically much broader it's not just the
00:33:46.040 the passion of jesus but it starts all the way from the fall of the angels i think this movie is going
00:33:51.740 to be a catechesis for people it's so necessary um it's going to be back and forth in time and bless
00:33:57.200 the passion of the christ was like that too but belg gibson calls it an acid trip it's going to be um
00:34:03.480 it's just it's just going to be something that they really need to hear and he says it's like
00:34:09.160 a trip to hell they have to go to hell first and i think these these themes he's going to touch on
00:34:13.360 are so important for people to understand and today you know because this is this is not just
00:34:18.600 catholicism this is faithful traditional catholicism is going to come back into the uh in a big way i don't
00:34:25.400 you know we'll see what kind of results it has but i i think there's also going to be they
00:34:29.640 during the actual the filming of it they had all sorts of you know frightening things happen
00:34:35.120 sorts of demonic things jim caviezel said he had a lot of suffering playing the role and then you
00:34:39.800 remember afterwards remember all the trouble trouble that mel gibson had um when he after the movie was
00:34:45.840 made you know and i think he just you just can you know i hope i wonder what kind of things are in
00:34:50.940 store for this because this is a real battle that he's doing getting this filmed and getting it out
00:34:56.960 there and i think it's going to be the same this time around it's this it's a writer from brave heart
00:35:01.120 it's the same producer that he's had before uh in this in this newsmax article they reference uh the
00:35:06.520 chosen which has been you know several uh for several seasons but the chosen is a good thing to see the
00:35:12.700 difference because it's really going to be quite different from the chosen the chosen is like
00:35:16.180 mainline uh christianity this is going to be faithful uh traditional get this christianity coming out
00:35:23.660 i happen to like the chosen franchise um but i think that and what mel mel gibson's doing are aiming at
00:35:32.360 two different things now i really i actually like i actually really do like the chosen thing i i know
00:35:37.420 some people don't some people think it's too inventive i actually think it's handled in a very tasteful
00:35:42.820 way a very interesting way of making sort of if you're perhaps if your imagination isn't what it
00:35:49.600 once was it's it's very done in a very tasteful way of of helping you to see how these things might
00:35:56.820 have been um in a non-preachy way i very strongly support that actually um and you mentioned that
00:36:03.160 the issues that mel gibson had uh the aforementioned we mentioned him at the top of the show abraham foxman
00:36:08.740 i don't know if he's had so much attention um for years since we've mentioned him uh on the room twice in
00:36:15.080 one show but he came out quite heavily uh criticizing the the depiction of the the pharisees um in the
00:36:23.100 passion of the christ um liz you i know you wanted to add something here but is it true to say that um
00:36:31.200 what the one thing that particularly made the passion of the christ unique is that it was made by
00:36:36.940 a traditional the traditionalist catholic um uh which is a life the life of christ made from a more or an
00:36:45.960 aspect of the crucifixion from the life of christ made specifically by a traditionist catholic trying to
00:36:52.420 remain true to to that devotional um philosophy well you know what they said about the the men who built a
00:37:05.220 magnificent gothic of three cathedrals where you are on the other cross on the other side of this uh
00:37:11.140 pond is that they didn't have opinions they had belief in god and you know that's what i think makes
00:37:18.720 this this now i think franchise thank goodness um so magnificent is because not only did mel gibson
00:37:28.180 really consult many many sources um but he has a strong belief in god and the truth of the film um the
00:37:37.480 truth of god um just like the magnificent art and music um that was generated by people of faith
00:37:46.540 um that we've lost i mean we haven't had a magnificent movie from hollywood since passion of the christ
00:37:53.680 um because you know it's you know culture has been hardened and brutalized and devoid of god and faith
00:38:02.060 and that's what makes i'll just never forget that scene where jesus falls um carrying the cross and his
00:38:10.720 mother is there and she's looking him in the eyes i mean to this day i can't barely think of it without
00:38:17.180 wanting to sob because it was just so powerful um and you know it's coming at a time when the world
00:38:24.800 seems to be searching yet again for christ for truth for beauty and as as you know jarring as mel's
00:38:36.440 movies are because they're very realistic they exude the beauty of the catholic faith and the beauty of
00:38:44.680 jesus christ and the truth that he brings to a fallen world it's you know this is what hollywood
00:38:51.280 just doesn't understand is that you need to have the faith of jesus christ the creator to create
00:38:59.260 magnificent masterpieces and um so that's that's why i'm really looking forward to it not only on
00:39:06.720 artistic front but also in really displaying for for the people of the world the beauty of of
00:39:14.540 christianity and jesus at this moment in time when um there was such a great you know they were the
00:39:22.800 apostles would say how could he leave us after only three years of preaching how could you know he why
00:39:28.760 doesn't he come down off the cross why you know he is christ he is god um and this was a terrible
00:39:34.980 moment but of course the resurrection brought the great faith and hope um for all of us for eternity
00:39:40.980 so i mean this is this is not only a cultural message for us but i think it's also a religious
00:39:47.220 message i think we need to pray that all those forces that attacked the passion of the christ during its
00:39:54.300 making um you know be put aside and that um that mel's vision really grounded in his catholic faith
00:40:05.340 traditional catholic faith really does um come on the screen um in technicolor so that all of us are
00:40:12.320 moved from the heart about jesus christ you came so close liz you're so close to to to name to naming um
00:40:22.640 one of my favorite scenes in that film which is i think is i think it's conjoined in the one that you
00:40:27.780 mentioned but it's where christ as a as a kid trips over and you see the virgin on the pathway and you
00:40:33.820 see i don't know why i get the the my i don't get why i get the um i feel the sort of the the sweat
00:40:40.360 on the palm of my hands as i'm talking about it it sort of humanizes christ i think um you see he
00:40:47.540 trips over on the path and you see the virgin mary sort of running to his mother uh running towards him
00:40:53.240 to to to to wrap him up in her arms and then i think isn't that isn't that isn't it isn't it mixed
00:40:59.280 in with the same scene as you say when christ uh trips on the um stumbles um seven sorrows on the
00:41:06.600 road of his the seven sorrows of his mother the worst of which is walking along golgotha and watching
00:41:13.400 her son crucified to death um that to me the mary and jesus in that movie was just so beautifully
00:41:20.100 portrayed the whole film the whole film i mean i have no doubt that film um was inspired by and
00:41:28.500 protected by the holy spirit more so than anything that came out of the bergoglio uh papacy every
00:41:34.520 scene every single aspect every single frame of that film is literally perfect and untouchable you
00:41:41.160 know as frank walker said uh this is going to be a catechetical moment um and i hope the higher
00:41:46.100 rocks in the catholic church and um and even pastors in the in in the protestant church the
00:41:52.180 evangelical church that did so much to support that film 20 years ago i hope they'll be on hand to use
00:41:58.020 it to take the message like like what what um what that guy dallas is doing with um with um the
00:42:04.740 chosen to taking jesus christ to uh to a new generation um okay just in a few short minutes
00:42:13.760 liz you're going to come back and and tell us uh about how we are apparently losing some aspects of
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00:43:50.160 and your peace of mind today so lizio tell me then if you wouldn't mind a little bit about this um about
00:44:00.160 the the not so good news on the culture war front that uh that we are um apparently losing
00:44:07.980 in part because the the absence on the battlefield of pope leo yeah i mean this is an excellent article
00:44:17.940 in the remnant um by gaetano mascula i am talking about he did some excellent research on really the
00:44:25.740 present state of euthanasia uh euphemism i might add um for assisted suicide another euphemism um but the
00:44:37.060 culture of death is really taking hold in europe um we've seen it um in the western states um here in
00:44:46.400 america but for example in 2025 we're not even halfway through of spain had 1300 cases of loose of
00:44:56.880 assisted suicide being carried out and this is the loosening of regulations um more and more people
00:45:04.920 are invited into this pool of peril i call it where they um are claiming that you know they're either
00:45:13.480 dying or um in you know mental health pain um the the regulations continue to be opening up to more and
00:45:22.220 more people availing themselves of assisted suicide i mean the number you know this is the culture of death
00:45:29.700 let's be honest i mean if there is you know millions hundreds of millions of children every year
00:45:35.900 being um aborted um it is no surprise that we would go to the other most vulnerable population
00:45:43.940 um the the elderly and um and so um they go through netherlands belgium luxembourg switzerland
00:45:54.660 they all have legalized assisted suicide and there has been virtually no pushback at all from the church
00:46:03.440 okay okay okay and you need to help me understand something here but my small brain can't can't
00:46:10.880 absorb it i thought that pope leo who's currently enjoying these approval ratings uh i think he's the
00:46:19.940 most popular political figure in the united states well he's american he's not a political figure in
00:46:25.160 the united states but everyone would have seen the poll that came out um a few days ago he's way up there
00:46:30.140 like plus 40 45 uh points or something we've so we've all seen the photos of him in the helicopter
00:46:37.440 ride to this youth conference in italy getting the rock star reception so the mainstream media
00:46:45.600 told us with these million or so um pilgrims or tourists whichever word you should want to choose
00:46:53.220 i'm surprised to hear that uh that's such a beloved figure isn't using some of his political capital
00:47:01.240 to defend the non-negotiable positions of the catholic church how can that be
00:47:06.580 well because the new theology of the catholic church is the um synodal listening accompanying
00:47:14.740 journey church of mercy and it is mercy merciful not to allow people to suffer anymore we just talked
00:47:23.400 about you know what we you know the crucifixion of christ in you know who who embraced suffering and
00:47:30.080 death on a cross the worst kind of torture imaginable so that we human beings his the children of god
00:47:36.880 could um attain salvation um but mercy has become now the uh i i consider it the absolute theology now
00:47:48.460 of the catholic church um we are now um putting away ignoring censoring any readings any um teachings
00:47:58.260 of john paul ii who actually was in evangelium uh vitae powerfully talked about and just took on these
00:48:07.440 issues as did as did benedict about assisted suicide they saw this happening in europe and they were going
00:48:14.980 to stand as a um as a a wedge between the culture of death and what was happening to our weak elderly
00:48:24.120 and um spoke valiantly about the importance uh in position of the catholic church and about you know
00:48:31.920 redemptive suffering which of course never gets mentioned anymore and so certainly um this pope is
00:48:38.340 not going to take on the cultural issues of the globalists and it's all about depopulation jenny talked
00:48:46.820 about the lgbt agenda that's about depopulation we talked about you know we talked about abortion
00:48:53.140 depopulation depopulation this is too also about depopulation the global agenda of 2030 of the u.n
00:49:00.520 and so people you know and they will use language like they use the same language of abortion
00:49:07.300 to um minimize it to soften to soften the blow um and um so we have to be absolutely you know critical
00:49:16.380 thinkers when they talk about mercy and they're going to use and they've used mercy as as have the states
00:49:22.660 and countries in promoting this new agenda i i can't underline what lizzie always just said
00:49:30.160 uh more more more strongly we need to stay vigilant um because what is being presented to us
00:49:36.960 is not the the catholic faith and the most vulnerable are always uh first in line to suffer
00:49:43.540 the consequences that's all we really have time for today we'll be back at 6 p.m next wednesday
00:49:50.120 in fact jenny i know has a quick point jenny you've got 30 seconds you had a quick point you wanted to
00:49:55.500 mention with regards to the uh to the mel gibson film well actually no i'll just follow up on what
00:50:02.300 liz was just saying um this this agenda to you use euphemisms um and sort of fake misleading terms
00:50:11.240 to portray um what is actually a sort of a barbaric push um in in in give it the veneer of christian
00:50:21.000 mercy is just embedded in the european bureaucracy in particular um there's a they're they're trying to
00:50:28.420 make out like they've uncovered uh a shadowy network of of of billionaires trying to stop uh what they
00:50:36.020 would call uh reproductive rights um this is yet another euphemism for unfettered abortion um which
00:50:43.940 maybe we can get to next week because it's absolutely in line with what liz was just saying
00:50:47.960 i'm sure that i'm sure the powers that govern this world will keep us busy um let's let's try let's try
00:50:55.140 and make time for that next week if they don't throw any other satanic tools down in our path jenny
00:51:01.260 quickly your social media where do where do their people go to to keep up with your great writings
00:51:05.400 on substack and on uh and on twitter uh so it's jenny e holland dot substack and on twitter i am
00:51:13.480 semper femina 21 and liz you're where do people go to to catch up with you on social media elizabeth
00:51:22.160 you're my substack is your children as is my website and frank walker canon 212 uh
00:51:31.000 for the website and canon 212 spelled all out at twitter and also the the update is at rumble and at
00:51:36.840 gloria tv frank and i'll ask you as i always do to put the links up of the stories we've spoken about
00:51:43.360 today uh on your superb website where people can go and uh read them at their own leisure i'm on getter
00:51:51.520 at harnwell folks thanks very much for joining us we'll be back god willing next wednesday thanks
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