Episode 2024: Ukraine War Comes To Odessa; Zlensky's ask; The Fall Of The Italian Government
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On this episode of the War Room, the crew travels to the port of Odessa, Ukraine, to meet with members of the pro-Ukrainian volunteer forces fighting against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and to meet some of the volunteer fighters on the front lines.
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odessa on the night train stopped by in levy for a few hours while we were there met with some local
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contacts local activists um journalists people that are involved with some of these volunteer
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fighters that have gone over got a sense of what was happening there talked about the guns that
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are being run in from from poland right now actually ar-15s and ak-47s to the ukrainian
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people to the ukrainian flight uh body armor helmets these are american weapons that are
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uh well some of them are american some are polish made it's it's a high it's a whole patchwork it's
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a dog's breakfast of weaponry exactly and i mean if you want to pick up something that's the place
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to go right now um you know you go to somebody's house and they've got uh body armor and quick
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clot and tourniquets just strewn out across the beds and sofas you know i mean it's it's you know
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pretty much take what you want so we make it down to odessa and then we we reached out to
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more local context people should understand odessa is the key that kind of picks the lock that you got
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the land bridge but that's that's the major port of ukraine and that's the that is russia would love
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to have i mean in world war ii they didn't give up odessa easily no this is this is something it's
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a crown jewel right this was and you can see even in the city of odessa there on the black sea i mean
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you can see the imperial architecture you can see i mean it it reminds me of some of the buildings
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that you might see in saint petersburg right this is saint petersburg on the black sea um this was
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the city of katherine the great right this is a huge huge shitty going back to the uh the russian
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empire going back to the czars right this was their port on the black sea this was the the center
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of commerce this was the center of civilization whereas crimea that was more your military side
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that was more the military part uh of everything and so going back hundreds and hundreds of years
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and so for the russians for even now for putin this would absolutely constitute number one a strategic
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port obviously because if you take that then you essentially landlock ukraine so then kiev doesn't
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have the ability to get anything to the sea they can't touch all the wheat from russia and from ukraine
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is now locked up the russians well it's locked up now because of the blockade right like i'm saying
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if you control odessa you can basically determine you're running the entire northern black sea at that point
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all right all right it's basically between them and putin and pretend i'm in turkey
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saturday july 23rd 23 july the year of our lord 2022 your life it's in the war room uh we got a lot to get
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to today tomorrow's news today that was the opening right there ladies and gentlemen was for june okay
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was that six weeks ago seven weeks ago maybe the great jack basobic having done his midnight train
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crossing of ukraine with his brother jack elated at the time how big odessa is uh the russians are
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shelling it today or sending missiles in there after they cut this grain deal we're trying to get rebecca
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koffler up to wrote a great piece over at fox rebecca koffler okay we're gonna get to rebecca kyle
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we've got ben harnwood got maria louisa rossi in uh with media set in italy we got rudy we're
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packed the great alex jones will be on at 11 o'clock we got a lot to get to today jack is down at turning
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point this incredible conference for young people they're just packed down there in tampa doing a
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great job charlie kirk and the team um thousands of kids there just wall to wall all under 25 our own
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jane zirka will be down in the second hour dan schultz a lot to get to uh jack why do we open
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with this today tell us why this is so important and uh because zelinski we're gonna have harnwell
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and the guys on here in a second the italian government just fell because of this situation
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uh macron's really out of power jammed up because of this situation he lost the national like losing
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congress he lost that uh boris uh johnson lost for other things but he was the biggest cheerleader he's
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gone one of the reasons the british people had tired of tired of him lying to him across europe
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uh you got hungry in people's grills uh harnwood was going to talk about that uh tell us what they
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just took all this time to cut this deal on the grain why is putin sending long-range missiles or
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intermediate-range missiles into into odessa right now sir well steve thanks for having me on this
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morning we are down here turning point sass security situation is tight because we're going to have
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president trump in today that's why uh we're on we're on so ho ho ho ho ho whoa whoa whoa whoa
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whoa whoa stop chill you've been all week you've been amazing by the way i'm in the terry shilling
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seat i heard terry poor terry got bench pressed by pisoba pisoba wouldn't full abandon on him
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hugging the mic that's good hold it you got parker and harry the two best workhorses do they understand
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that what time when you when you have a 10 o'clock start you know you know you're a naval officer we
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we launch at 10 we're parker and harry you're telling me they couldn't get through they couldn't
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plan getting through security with trump coming in the secret service i don't think i'm buying that
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jack i think the boys might have been rolling late in tampa last night any truth of that rumor down
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there real america's voice it was a hot wet night in tampa last night steve and that's all that i'm uh
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that's all that i'm permitted to say at this juncture here uh here live from sunny tampa florida where
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the sun is shining this morning give me odessa sir tell me why odessa was you were there you you
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against uh the great tanya tay who went nuts on you afterwards you and your your brother went into
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ukraine and then you decided okay well since we're here let's go down to where it's really going to be
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important you took the train down to odessa why why is odessa so important oh yeah that's right when we
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found the the night train to odessa we turned that into a special long uh long form podcast that i
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recorded on the night train to odessa on the way back and uh we can catch that human events daily we
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did the entire thing we've got another one coming out where it's just me and my brother sort of
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talking about our trip everything that one's in the can we haven't posted it up yet but i think we're
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going to uh either this weekend or next weekend as a special and and here's the thing right the
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russians fight like steven k bannon fights not one step back this is how they fought in world war ii
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this is how the czars fought this is how they've always fought and you can say oh they made some
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some technical errors on coming out of the gate and they've they've done this and they've put it on
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that better and the combined arms should have been better sure fine but at the end of the day they
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swarm and they pound and they pound and they pound and we saw and every time that i had been on
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when i was uh when i was riding in the saddle this week i said there was a statement by lavrov where
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he came out and said because the west with which joe biden right the illegitimate president is the
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head of the signing off on these decisions they are now sending these long-range missile systems
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the high mars the rockets the artillery that can strike into they're talking about striking crimea
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they're talking about striking inside russia with this stuff and they said we are expanding the
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parameters of the special military operation we are no longer only interested in donbass
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we are going to continue forward and when lavrov speaks you better listen because he's the one
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who's telling you all for he's he's no kayfabe this guy he's no cap he's telling you exactly what's
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coming and so when we went down to odessa we remembered that this was the city you played the
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clip from uh almost two months ago at this point where we were saying this was the crown jewel of the
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russian empire this was the city of catherine the great cat there's still statues of catherine
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great up there to this day the same way you say you would see statues of peter the great up in
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st petersburg you see the imperial architecture this is the major port on the black sea and
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whether or not the russians are going to well it's there it's the one it's the one god bless
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it's the one war it's the one warm water port they've got and look they are the great game with
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the british empire was always to get to karachi or someplace like that but this is the best this is the
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but this is one they got and they control correct sir odessa exactly this is this is the key port
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because what does russia have right russia for all intents and purposes and if you look at it at the
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grand scale on your world island map russia is a land power they are not effectively a sea power they
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never really have been that's why port access is so important to russia that's why syria their port in
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syria was so important to them that's why odessa is so important to them that's why crimea is so important
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to them st petersburg and everything up mermatt that stuff is iced over in the winter they can't
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use you can't use that stuff for most of here that's why when they come into the south this is
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a key strategic that is the lifeblood of the russian empire and if putin looks at this like
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a russian empire today he understands this because you know what we can talk about neoliberalism and
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the new ideology of everything but you know what hasn't changed in all of these hundreds of years
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the power of the material what you still need guess what energy and food everything comes down to
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energy food and steel energy food and steel that's i think the soy i think i think this i think the soy
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boys i think the soy boys in western europe forgot that let me ask you because lavras say hey we're
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coming zelinski saying we're not going to negotiate uh work me through this they've got the grain deal now
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to get to turkey so the middle east doesn't go into a massive famine what if lavras says we're coming
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and biden we just announced yesterday send another quarter send another quarter of a billion dollars
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270 million dollars of weapons on the day that zelinski says uh i'm not negotiating and american
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taxpayers have to understand they now need nine billion dollars a month they've missed their martin
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they need 9 billion 2x what they needed they also need 750 billion to a train to rebuild this number is
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getting bigger every day and they're going to look to the united states to underwrite this
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so what's going to is who's going to force zelinski to the table to try to make a deal here sir
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no no no see this this is what and that's the media headlines right amateurs talk strategy
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professionals talk logistics all those waters around odessa even the beaches of odessa we went
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down to the beach of odessa and i said i want to get some sand from the beach of odessa
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or uh you know just from my personal collection from my you know the poso archives back home and
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soon to be the poso museum one day and i wanted to get some sand up and we got a little bit but i
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saw a sign and i went to the guy to say what's that sign say they said do not go on the beach because
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there's landmines here there's mines on the beaches there's mines throughout the waters throughout
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the waters of odessa right now you've got to go in with demining you've got to demine those ships
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who's going to do that work the ukrainians what are the what navy are they going to use to do that
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right and we all know the uh every sailor knows the adage that every ship can be a minesweeper once
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right but you got to go through and do the hard work of demining these ships where you got these
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waters before you're going to have any of your deep water cargo ships coming in no no company is
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going to be willing to put their ship in there if they know there's mines that's crazy it's the same
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reason that none of the flights are going anywhere around ukraine or any of the even um the adjacent
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areas no flights are flying through there they saw what happened mh-17 all those years ago you've
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got to do the work before you're going to have any of this grain coming out hang on one second let me
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get a little rebecca koffler i have rebecca koffler who's the great biographer of uh of putin rebecca
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there's a big piece of that you're a part of in fox right now give us your assessment of what's going on
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yes uh jack was so big uh has really nailed it you don't get a real story from the uh mass media
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you know this whole deal was doomed from the very start uh steve and i predicted it yesterday when
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all the biden's boys were jumping up and down you know elated and victoria newland was uh saying
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the stupidest thing how putin is afraid of uh of the world's global opprobium i mean why would putin
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live up by this deal there's a reason why he is waging this war on ukraine and that reason is
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because washington's quote-unquote experts have been talking about ukraine being part of nato and
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not only that they admitted to the russians that they want to weaken it militarily and they want to
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degrade its economy and as jack said lavrov announced to them what exactly they were gonna do
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right putin cannot allow nuclear ukraine you know zelensky was talking about having nukes putin can't
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allow that on on on russia's borders and uh you know the remarkable uh thing steve is that the russians
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have been telling the soy boys in washington and the cognitively impaired biden exactly what they
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were going to do like jack said lavrov just really reiterated they're going after his son they're
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going after zaporozhya they already have 20 percent of ukraine's territory that's one-fifth despite the
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fact that we have pumped in so much military equipment in there we have provided in five
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in five months alone we provided more money into ukraine than during our first five years in
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afghanistan steve and we all know how it ended up in afghanistan and that button was to keep the
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state open yeah it's not gonna work rebecca just hang on for one second we're gonna go to short
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commercial break we got jack basobic in tampa the turning point usa conference rebecca koffler we got
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maria louisa rossi ben harnwell rudy giuliani also peter mckelvaney packed until we get to the great alex
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jones this is power geopolitics you're going to keep escalating you're going to have you're going to send
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more ukrainians to the charnel house that's what you're seeing right now as eric prince said a couple
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of weeks ago on the show they're getting rototilled but washington keeps sending it all next in the war
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everybody in the greater dallas north texas area all the way around from that region we're going to have
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a real gathering of the of the troops there so i want everybody there we're going to do a bunch of
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stuff you get to meet you get to meet all the war room uh our entire staff there and hopefully harry
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parker will be there from real america's voice hopefully they'll be through secret service
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security by that time uh jack posobic uh real quickly your summary of right now where do we
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stand i heard we cut this big grain deal to feed the world because the people forgot outside the
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united states and the great farmers and uh by the way we're gonna try to get to the farmers
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see the great farmers in uh in netherlands is all the grain and wheat come from ukraine and russia
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what's going to happen here jack see this has been the bread basket since time immemorial you had uh
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the huns fighting for this area you had the turks fighting for this area you had the ottomans you had
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so many people fighting over this the um this has been an area of the world that has seen bloodshed
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and war for generations this is the because it's the crossroads of empire right ukraine crimea by the
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way by the way a guy named a guy named hit a guy named hitler drove down here he didn't head to
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moscow that would but he was driving right through ukraine right he had curse stalingrad all of it on
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the other side boom he they knew this is this is the bloodlands you're in the blood because they
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understood they understood that is that this that is the gap that if you cut off odessa if you cut
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up the volga river the volga grad gap you cut that all off then you can cut off the life brought up the
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russian empire here's here's what we need posovic told you six seven weeks ago he goes over on his
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own nickel over there and the night train to odessa rebecca koffler her book putin's playbook
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in paperback is out tuesday she'll be back here from the great guys the team at regnery
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right she laid this out in her book a while ago we need joe but the republicans instead of just
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sitting there saying we're going to send more money and more weapons and have more ukrainians
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thrown into the charnel house how about this how about joe biden or jake settlement give me any of
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them they come up to capitol hill and they make a proposal of exactly what we're doing here how
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about that why don't everybody up all hear the conservative inc talking about the constitution
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they're loving on the constitution they're hugging on the constitution let's go back to the constitution
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we're engaged in a war here heck don't listen to me msnbc joe biden these guys going there it's
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a time of war it's a time of war we're okay if we're at war then let's do it but you got to come
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before the american people at least and i think the war powers acts unconstitutional but at least
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it's something it's kind of like the electoral count act of 1887 you ever heard that one ladies
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and gentlemen why don't you just come up there what republican is gonna have the stones to make
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sure they come and make a case to the american people what exactly are we doing you got a government
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needs nine billion dollars a month they told us they need 750 that's just to operate the deal
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to pay their pension is your pension being paid right now by the u.s government are they throwing
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a billion dollars your way in the rio grande valley they sent a bain and a half dollars two weeks ago
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to pay for the nurses the health care hey hispanics down the rio grande valley they're throwing a bain
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and a half dollars your way african americans in detroit east st louis baltimore are they throwing a
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bain and a half dollars your way to pay for your health care please ask yourself that no they're
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throwing out there because of the arms merchants and all the graft and the skim this is what harnwell
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has been telling you about for four months now this is so corrupt we need joe biden up coming up there
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send kamala harris send you number two send blinking give me anybody jake sullivan make the case to the
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american people and the republican party has got that we have a forcing function we have to do it not one
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more penny in arms not one more penny in relief not more one more penny in nation building until
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you make a case to the american people it's afghanistan and iraq all over again they're your
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betters and they know so much more and they're so much better than trump oh they know this all
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trump's people are hapless nine trillion dollars 8 000 dead 50 000 wounded ptsd suicides every day
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homeless veterans on the street worked out well for us in iraq and afghanistan this is all this is
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posobic trump's coming today what time real america's voice is going to have it what time
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you guys are going to have down to turning point we've got president trump is going to be addressing
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five thousand screaming activists these people they're pure maga we had them on uh the show
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yesterday i said who's your favorite president they said trump and they just chanted trump trump trump
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trump trump this crowd is energized that we had to say this last night they like to say we're down here
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here in free state of florida they love to say this but this crowd i'm telling you steve the red
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hats uh everyone i we actually interviewed um we interviewed one of the vendors that came out they
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do the trump merchandise they said are you sales down because i keep hearing the math the maga movement
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is over i keep hearing this is done they're done with trump they want to get rid of him you know
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she said she said we're we're expanding brick and mortar we're going out we're going in 50 states
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all 50 stores and this train has dr oz dr oz told me it was uh real quickly how they get to
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you posobic 24 7 you're putting up content all day and i know you're going to be up on real america's
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voice sure it's parker and harry shrub so how do people get to you know i see some of the lights
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flickering so we might we might have some some some movement over here i don't know that might be just
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somebody waking up but um but yeah we're going to be down here at turning point usa of course you can
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follow me twitter getter of course 24 7 and then the podcast human events daily we're going to have
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a couple interesting interviews this week where we're talking to some congressmen and congresswomen
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about the new congress and the fact that we're turning every committee into an oversight committee
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you want to talk we're going to subpoena people okay let's start subpoenaing people let's start
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referring people we want the documents so preserve them we are coming for every single one of the orange
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merchants we're coming to pharma we're coming to tech we're going around the horn steve we're
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going around the horn and we're going to make sure that we bring every single piece of this
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before the american people by the way i want to report our marketing director madeline peltz want
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to thank madeline over at media matters madeline peltz on the case man i hope you're feeling better
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she's been sick for a while but we love madeline madeline peltz over at uh our head madeline peltz
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head of marketing for war room over at media matters already tweeting out jack basovic praising the
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russian military extremist jack basovic warns that russia foreign ministry sergey lavrov is no okay
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fine go to madeline's we're going to put it up right now the worm jack they're already blowing
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the heads are already blowing up because of the interview love you brother you hang on down there
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say hi to all the kids we love we love turning point the entire operation jane zirka on the second
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hour thank you sir thank you rebecca uh rebecca we're going to have you back on tuesday the book is out
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tuesday uh putin's playbook you've been dead spot on in this you're in part of this big fox story we're
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going to get out uh tell us between now and tuesday what's going to happen ma'am what's going
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to happen is uh putin is going to keep pounding odessa because like jack said this is the most
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strategic uh area uh for him in ukraine and zelensky is a master manipulator he's been really tricking
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biden into keeping this figure open and right now we're depleting our own weapons supplies and we
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have other threats that we are facing china iran you know he even sent his wife to uh keep you know
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pleading with washington ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world it's 123rd steve
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out of 120 on the corruption scale only a little bit uh better than russia which is legendarily
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corrupt this is what where our money is going and guess where else our money is going the stocks of
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the military industrial complex the raytheons the north of grommens is through the roof and we the
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ma'am let's go to like i told them what was gonna happen steve remember i told
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ben you've been all over the zelinski story uh get me up to date hungry zelinski all of it
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good morning steve well if i start then with the um the hungry situation president excuse me prime
00:25:22.240
minister victor orban um has come out with this astonishing speech today um it's basically in
00:25:29.760
distilled form anything you will have heard on the war room over the last five months he basically said
00:25:36.240
that the eu needs a new strategy with regards to ukraine because the western imposed sanctions
00:25:43.360
on russia haven't worked so going on yeah hang on i'll tell you what ben hang on one second we're
00:25:50.880
gonna jam this all in we're gonna take a break we're gonna come back we get ben harnwell we're
00:25:55.280
gonna finish up with uh zelinski in hungary the speech by orban to lay out what eu needs to do
00:26:00.320
also then we're gonna have maria louisa rossi and rudy and ben talking about the fall of the italian
00:26:05.600
government because of this and the rise of georgia maloney right the first i think she'd be the first
00:26:10.720
woman ever to head up a uh an italian government uh from the brothers of italy uh rudy knows her
00:26:16.800
personally i know her personally i know ben does too so we'll talk all about that maria louisa from
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have a lot more of that we've got the great rudy juliana going during us a second ben uh zelinski
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has not he's tripled down this is why i said with somebody in the u.s government's got to come to
00:27:55.440
congress and and uh and and address the nation and give us a plan of what's going on zelinski said
00:28:00.960
no negotiations they got to give back all the territory is that essentially what his stand is
00:28:05.840
that is exactly what his position is steve he's saying no ceasefire with russia without recovering
00:28:11.920
the land uh lost thus far over the last five months which obviously means in practical terms
00:28:18.800
no um no ceasefire what he did say however um is that he thanked the united states for the supply of the
00:28:25.840
high mobility artillery rocket systems that the famous high mars rockets and saying that
00:28:31.280
whilst they've made a material difference it's much lower than what ukraine needs to turn the tide
00:28:37.200
and he then said what he actually is looking for he said a more pressing need is air defense systems
00:28:43.120
that can prevent russia from raining long-range missiles down on ukraine now the thing is who is
00:28:48.240
expected to be paying for this this isn't just a generic uh wish list the interview which he made
00:28:53.760
these statements steve is the um the wall street journal so this is basically a pitch to the biden
00:28:59.760
administration in the u.s press basically saying that you americans you need to cuff up more money
00:29:06.160
it's not by the way here's not even the money could you start doing that we're getting sucked into
00:29:10.720
a kinetic war uh over there when we got to be focused on the kinetic war that's coming with the naval
00:29:16.000
blockade of taiwan okay in the south china sea that is numerous importance number two is india
00:29:23.600
up there in kashmir pakistan occupied kashmir that and this thing is a european deal that's why
00:29:30.160
a victor orban who's also going to be at cpac dallas that's everybody's got to come orban's coming over
00:29:34.720
and orban right now is giving the best geopolitics saying hey eu i think we need to rethink here
00:29:39.360
and because zelinski can't be it can't be the tail wagging the dog and that's what we got
00:29:43.280
um ben hang on for one second the fall we said we predicted this all these governments are going to
00:29:48.240
start to fall and you saw the italian government fall maria louisa rossi from media set the number
00:29:52.880
one news anchor in italy maria louisa walk us through why did the italian government fall
00:29:58.640
and where do we stand right now with the elections
00:30:04.720
mario draghi as you know he was the former ecb um uh governor revered by the finance the
00:30:12.400
international finance was uh called upon by the president of italy mattarella to supersede or or
00:30:20.000
to to head the italian government um 18 months ago the government fell last week because the five
00:30:26.480
star movement pulled its uh pulled its support on mr draghi and as you predicted steve throwing italy into
00:30:35.920
chaos elections will be held and this is the short version there is of course in the byzantine world of
00:30:41.440
italian politics backstabbing lying different truths but reality of it is mr draghi was not
00:30:49.520
liked by the italian political party system he was liked by the italian people that saw him as
00:30:55.680
a fair administrator nothing of what he did was easy mr draghi however had international credibility
00:31:03.440
he was a western atlantic uh reliable western uh partner to the u.s he was a pivotal
00:31:12.320
part of the european union he helped negotiate uh sanctions to russia italians did not like him
00:31:19.520
personally but then again he's a leader you don't have to like him or go to dinner with them
00:31:23.360
but he was there now the italian government or seen as fair now the italian government has fallen and
00:31:30.560
we're going to have elections on the on september 20th but hold on but hold on hold on just what i
00:31:35.600
don't understand about the analysis he's the eurocrat he's just a technician put in by the european
00:31:40.400
union european union is all into this war in ukraine now the utm people starting to see the
00:31:45.760
the bills come and do like let's cut the air conditioning off right uh let's not we're not
00:31:50.560
going to heat this winter correct me if i'm wrong the leader in the polls is the great georgia maloney
00:31:56.800
the leader of the brothers of italy and uh let's say this they're a little farther right than center
00:32:02.320
right ma'am so if the italian people are saying we're tired of the eu we're tired of this stuff
00:32:08.880
and maybe salvini those guys are too many party animals we want somebody that's harder what's
00:32:12.640
your assessment steve you're absolutely right and we're going to get to that what my point is that
00:32:17.600
i didn't say that the draghi was perfect he was a he was a bureaucrat he was he was a banks person
00:32:23.280
but he got the job done and that was the role there was no guarantee and this is my assessment
00:32:29.040
that georgia maloney who is the natural heir and the woman who should be running the italian government
00:32:34.480
she's polling higher than any other party in italy is actually going to be the head of government come
00:32:40.560
september 25th because of the byzantine world of italian politics because b she's a woman because
00:32:47.200
see i don't think that the government forces in italy are going to allow her to be the head of the
00:32:53.280
italian government look at the new york times yesterday look at what the left is doing right
00:32:57.360
now to her digging a hole behind the support that she has in in italy she has been polling higher and
00:33:05.200
higher and higher because of her consistency because of her loyalty because of her patriotism
00:33:11.920
i'm not even sure she's righter than right i think she is a fair um she is a fair spokesperson for the
00:33:19.280
italian people they were going to go vote in six months anyway steve they were going to go vote in
00:33:25.280
march maybe may there was no point in having the government hang on hang on oh what are you talking
00:33:33.200
what are you talking you've had thatcher you've had golda meir you've had what are you talking about
00:33:37.520
that the italians won't have a woman to head the government is it that misogynist over there
00:33:41.120
is the italian political class that misogynist man absolutely you know that better than i do you
00:33:46.400
know georgia maloney very well you know how powerful intelligent capable and connected she is
00:33:52.080
i don't want to um speculate on the fact that she won't be uh the the head of government because she's
00:34:00.080
a woman but there will be a thousand and one reason to dig a hole under her and to push somebody
00:34:06.160
that's maria maria you're the top you're you're you're the top newscaster for media set in the
00:34:11.120
nation is she what she's being presented the new york times everybody she is this party the brothers
00:34:16.320
of italy is the fascist party it's the heirs to mussolini and she's nothing but mussolini's
00:34:22.320
the great granddaughter he never had this is uh this is a she's a fascist what say you ma'am
00:34:27.280
i am appalled i'm appalled by the article i'm appalled by what the left is doing and how the
00:34:35.360
american media is writing about her and how the italian media steve is spinning it to its advantage
00:34:42.720
and this is where i come in and this is why i say it's going to be very hard for her unless she has
00:34:48.560
some serious support to become or or or or sponsorship in a political sense to be head of
00:34:55.280
the italian government she's not a fascist she's a conservative patriot she's a christian woman she's
00:35:01.440
43 years old she has nothing to do with her fascist part with any fascist uh past she is a conservative
00:35:10.640
christian woman who is only but being loyal to the italian um country and to her electorate steve
00:35:18.320
because nothing could you get anybody could you could you get anybody forget the populous left and
00:35:23.760
and the five star but could you get anybody heading up an italian government that would be
00:35:29.760
more anathema to brussels you had draghi who's a bureau is a technocrat from brussels maloney would
00:35:37.040
be the absolute uh horror show for the folks in brussels correct yes i know i think she knows how to
00:35:44.000
deal with institution i know she knows exactly what she's facing against she will be anti-eu but not
00:35:50.800
she will be anti this european union a european union that dictates the rule but it doesn't even
00:35:57.040
know so a european union that is making a pull as they come i think georgia maloney would be fair
00:36:04.400
because she knows that she has to live coexist with an international order that is out there and to that
00:36:11.200
extent i think she would be perfect she's been doing her homework she has studied her her she studied the
00:36:17.120
the agenda and she knows what she's doing i don't think steve and this is just my personal speculation
00:36:23.040
but i'm very hard you know hardly ever wrong about this that she will find it easy to be owed to get
00:36:31.840
what she's owed i i already see in the move in the motion that's out there the left moving to fragment the
00:36:39.120
the the center-right coalition i already see that they are building problems they're simply not there
00:36:45.360
falsities lies harsh speculations and furthermore it's two months before the elections can you
00:36:53.680
imagine an election in italy steve you know italy better than i do an election in august a political
00:36:59.760
campaign in august with no air conditioning italy is burning people have no air conditioning and and
00:37:06.640
and or anything the the country is parched a political campaign in august actually i would i would
00:37:15.440
i would actually argue it'd be the best time for the lonely run hang on for a second i want to bring
00:37:18.800
in the great rudy giuliani rudy you know georgia and her people very well is she a fascist is she the
00:37:24.320
heir to uh mussolini's uh style of government sir no no that's the same uh that's the same thing they
00:37:31.200
do here with throwing around words like fascist and racist and anybody the left opposes i mean the fact
00:37:36.480
is that draggy was a failure uh he yes he he got the big bailout from the eu but that was uh accompanied
00:37:43.840
by very strict economic reforms he was supposed to make in italy well those economic reforms were
00:37:48.800
not made and italy's economy is one of the worst in europe in fact the worry is it might drag the eu
00:37:53.920
down so i don't know how you can consider draggy a uh a success i mean he's a success like biden's a success
00:38:00.480
in the minds of the left wing of europe uh he he belongs to that club he's part of that club
00:38:06.000
and i mean they've ruined that club has ruined the economy of europe and italy is one of the one of
00:38:12.000
one of the biggest victims maloney it'd be um maloney it'd be what berlusconi should have been
00:38:17.840
berlusconi uh should have been the margaret thatcher for italy and i thought he would be i thought he
00:38:23.280
would he would um cut back on the socialism get them to more more of a free market economy um and
00:38:30.960
instead uh he didn't make he did not make serious hold on hang on hold on hold on stop
00:38:36.640
stop stop right there you're saying that you believe georgia maloney is the mark could be the
00:38:41.680
margaret thatcher of italy is that what i'm hearing i have no doubt about it italy has needed that uh it
00:38:46.480
needed it back when berlusconi was elected and uh he tried and then uh gave up i i think she'll try and
00:38:52.960
do it because i think the people of italy forget the newspapers and the same it's the same as the united
00:38:58.880
states it's the same the same thing as if you would read the new york times and think that
00:39:03.520
expresses the will of the people in the new york times the new york times the new york times says
00:39:07.600
she's uh she's the she's the political granddaughter of mussolini sir and the brothers of italy is a
00:39:12.880
fascist party what's your response well they're actually in the way they cover the news dishonestly
00:39:18.720
and cover things up and violate the first amendment constantly they're closer to being fascist than
00:39:23.520
anyone they're writing about so i i don't take the new york times seriously at all when they
00:39:28.640
you know censored the hard drive for 18 months and then and then finally said it was totally
00:39:34.320
accurate i mean this is this is really a newspaper or is it a fascist political movement that likes to
00:39:40.080
step all over people's uh right of free speech okay georgia maloney is a is a populist and uh that is
00:39:48.800
what italy needs and and she also is someone who believes in a free enterprise system which has to be
00:39:54.880
saved in italy it's on the you know it's on the verge of collapse if it hasn't collapsed already
00:39:59.520
and um she if she hang on she but hang on one second hang on a second we're gonna take a break
00:40:05.200
i might keep maria louisa i'm gonna keep rudy i got harnwell we're gonna move we're gonna do some
00:40:10.880
jiggling here get joe allen maybe a little bit later i'll figure this all out we've got the great
00:40:15.280
alex jones coming up uh my question for our steam panel is how the ukraine played into all this and also
00:40:21.440
so didn't we see this movie before with salvini we're gonna ask maria louisa rossi from media set
00:40:27.680
then we see the popular we had a populist before a patriot before a national before and salvini
00:40:32.480
how did that not work out maybe a little bit too much partying on the beaches
00:40:38.000
not enough one thing i'll tell you georgia maloney not gonna party
00:40:41.360
it's gonna grind okay that's a worker the margaret thatcher of italy all next in the war room
00:40:51.440
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barb uh biden still got the emergency measures out there and hey it's the run-up we're just outside
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100 days until judgment day 8 november hang on ben maria louisa we're kind of crammed for time here
00:42:57.600
but real quickly we had salvini right we had salvini in a government we had this joint you know the
00:43:02.880
populist left populist right right a lot of people kind of said hey maybe that's the model
00:43:06.880
is salvini still last time i saw salvini he's a brilliant guy in a street fighter last time i saw him
00:43:11.680
he's booming partying all the time is this is he serious and trying to get back into the government
00:43:16.240
here and trying to former government is it is it going to be a runoff between salvini and maloney
00:43:19.920
is that we're going to see i believe so i think it comes down to a question of reliability um
00:43:25.680
salvini had his chance he pulled out of the five-star league of government and people will not
00:43:31.360
forget people want reliability and georgia maloney is reliable she is credible whether steve she's the
00:43:39.280
new margaret thatcher i believe she could be but does she have ronald reagan on the other side
00:43:44.080
i believe she does not wow uh that's amazing uh how do people get to you on social media you're the
00:43:51.280
you're the person an american audience ought to be looking for for everything in italian politics and
00:43:55.520
this is going to be big remember this is a global as as jerome revere was on here from the national
00:44:00.720
rallies now as a more guy but he said the most powerful thing of that speech i gave which is all
00:44:05.280
over the cnn thing was not that hey if if when they run out of arguments when they call you races where
00:44:10.160
it's a badge of honor he said the most important thing he said banner was you are not alone this is a
00:44:14.480
global global global movement maria louisa how do people get to you on social media i'm on twitter at
00:44:20.640
ml rossi hawkins official and you can watch me on tg5 and on the media set networks and of course i'm
00:44:27.600
on getter thank you steve thank you ma'am we're reporting rudy we got about three minutes i need
00:44:33.280
you to connect the dots you're better than anybody ukraine the fall of the italian government or bonds
00:44:37.920
proposal of the eu i should remind i should remind mario well we said that margaret thatcher came before
00:44:43.920
ronald reagan so uh we are going to have a change in government and that might just turn out very very
00:44:49.440
well so let's be optimistic about it i mean the fact is italy is probably the government most
00:44:54.880
dependent upon russia for for uh energy it's unfortunate that's the case and and also its
00:45:02.320
economy is weaker than most of the other european governments so obviously a a great deal of money
00:45:09.120
going out of italy at a time in which the public debt has gone up to 151 of gdp i mean that's that's
00:45:17.200
catastrophic real quickly you know you know the constitution you know the constitution better
00:45:22.160
anybody does somebody in biden's government or biden have to come to congress and make
00:45:26.000
the case for this look we're nine billion dollars a month now ukraine needs 750 billion dollars to
00:45:30.960
reconstruction they want more arms they want long-range missiles the kinetic war is expanding
00:45:35.680
every second what does the republican party need to do to force biden to the table to come with a plan
00:45:41.760
sir it's got to put restraints on it i mean the reality is we're we're doing the same thing italy is
00:45:48.880
doing except not quite at the same pace and we have a much larger economy i mean the fact the fact is
00:45:53.520
they took all that money during the pandemic there were supposed to be economic reforms those economic
00:45:58.800
reforms didn't happen and debt has skyrocketed debt is ruining the italian economy it's creating
00:46:05.120
inflation it's taking money away from you know hard-working italians just like it's doing
00:46:09.520
in america i mean you look at that you look at the skyrocketing price of everything and that is a
00:46:15.600
that is largely a function of biden's uh and the democrat party irresponsible uh economic policy
00:46:21.840
just like it is in italy and draghi is one of those internationalists who has the same same views and
00:46:28.240
has done the same damage to italy that biden has done to the united states and that's why they kicked
00:46:32.560
them out uh rudy tell people how to get to i want to know how to get to the daily radio show
00:46:39.760
the great show that you by the way rudy's kind of like joe scarborough the star of the morning joe
00:46:45.280
is mika the star of the sunday show that's number one is dr maria ryan rudy's just right he just no
00:46:51.200
it's right no it's the same thing and we're fighting for me but the new show is going to be morning mika and
00:46:56.480
joe she's going to get equal pay i just thought it out there for maria i i um you know i don't think
00:47:02.960
i like the comparison with mika the intellectual level oh sure i shouldn't have said i'm no i'm
00:47:07.360
saying a comparison in any event i'm saying comparison how you draft an offer yeah we're
00:47:11.760
going to have ashley babbitt's mom on uh this oh sunday because i intend to do a major investigation
00:47:18.240
with homicide detectives i shouldn't say intend to do i have already done and we have it uh almost completed
00:47:24.800
of what what should be investigated as a murder and it is uh almost inhuman that those phonies
00:47:31.840
on that committee the proven liars of four or five years i call i call j6 you know the third act of
00:47:38.880
russian collusion and uh it's the same thing and it's the same group of liars they lied about russian
00:47:45.440
collusion they lied about the about the uh hard drive we were telling the truth about it now they're
00:47:51.680
telling the truth about this and we're lying sounds kind of strange doesn't it rudy rudy real
00:47:56.720
quickly how they get to your podcast how they get to the sunday show your daily show and you
00:48:00.560
on getter sir rudy rudy giuliani cs.com rudy giuliani cs.com for the podcast and then uh wabc
00:48:08.640
radio.com tomorrow at 10 with uh dr dr ryan and we'll have uh mrs babbitt on uh i gotta tell you
00:48:17.600
murder so breaking news rudy giuliani is doing a murder investigation into ashley sergeant ashley
00:48:22.720
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