Episode 2167： More Than 78 Terrorists Have Been Apprehended At The Border And 2 Million People Crossed Have Crossed So Far; The Great Reset And How To Defend Against It; Navigating The Storm Facing The Catholic Church And The Faith
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In this episode, I talk about the surge in illegal immigration across the southern border, the latest numbers from Customs and Border Patrol, and why we should all be worried about it. I also talk about Joe Biden's upcoming hearing and why he should be impeached.
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You look at the cross tabs and you particularly look at these numbers and I'm going to go back
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into detail, but I just want to give the audience and talk about where this was when you defeated
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Liz Cheney. Border security, GOP leads by 36 points. Crime, GOP, this is among all voters,
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not Republican, this is all voters. And some of these are historic spreads.
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Border security, plus 36. Crime, plus 23. Immigration, plus 19 points. Economy,
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we have a 19 point lead. Cost of living and inflation, plus 14. Unity, the ability to bring
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the country together. Wait for it. GOP, plus six. For the first time ever, the number of arrests at
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the U.S. southern border was more than two million in one year. That's according to new numbers from
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Customs and Border Protection. Just in the month of August, Border Patrol detained more than 200,000
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people. That's up 1.7 percent from July, which is another almost record number. And September could
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bring even more record numbers, with data obtained by NBC News showing nearly 8,000 people crossing the
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Okay, it's 20 September in the year of war, 2022, Tuesday. Ladies and gentlemen, particularly for a
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podcast and radio audience, that's NBC and MSNBC. And you see them like they're shocked,
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right? New York Times, you headlines today, too many. What they also don't say when they say
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detain or arrested, that leaves in the mind of just people that are going about their daily life.
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Oh, they're arrested, so they're gonna be sent back. No, that's in the country, baby. And that's
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not even the getaways. This is why it's an invasion and their policies are all set up to
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exacerbate the invasion. It's the first article of impeachment. It will be, and it'll be a thorough
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investigation. No rush to judgment here. We want all the, that's, we want all the information out,
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all the data out, preserve your documents, all the emails, the meetings, the text messages,
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everything you told the border. Do you understand what this hearing is going to do? The hearing is
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going to actually change the direction of the debacle in immigration policy and people, 90% of
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Americans, including 80% of Hispanic Americans. And I think 95% of African Americans will say,
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hey, you know what? I think this guy named Trump actually had a pretty good idea, right? This is
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an invasion. And the investigation is going to show that. You got NBC, their heads are blown up.
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The numbers are at such a scale, but they even presented, oh, it's detained and arrested. Yeah,
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but it ain't arrested going back. It's arrested kind of, or detained going forward, exacerbating it.
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And now all the news is, you go to all the things that did, did, did Ron DeSantis have budget
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authority for the 50 flights. Did Ron DeSantis have got some left-wing sheriff that hasn't done
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anything in San Antonio. He's now some Democrat. He's going to do this. That's all noise.
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Here's the signal. He sent it to Martha's Vineyard. He's got the Boston, the New York and the Washington
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D.C., the Acela Corridor, mainstream media for $200 million of earned media. He's put it to the top
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and he's put it in the grill. You see what hypocrites they are. They couldn't wait. They
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got jiggy. You see how quickly they had to get the poor illegal aliens out of there? Look, it's not,
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I don't blame the illegal aliens at all. They're the one rational actor in this drama because they're
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getting to El Norte, baby. If Biden is giving me all this stuff and I got a better deal than
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American veterans, why not? Hell yes, let's do it. Let's roll, baby. That's why you have 156 countries.
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Todd Benzman is going to come on and talk about it. He's got also this new book with the
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most dramatic cover of the year. But I want to make sure we bring her some history.
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Brother Benzman first warned us about years ago and had the book a couple of years ago. Benzman
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said, hey, look, as bad as the border is, Trump shut it down, et cetera. But as bad as that under
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Biden, the one thing we've got to watch out for is terrorists. They're super bad guys to understand
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that they can get across the southern border and get in the United States. They don't have to come
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through New York City. They don't have to try to sneak in through some airport somewhere or come
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and they can just walk across the border. And by the way, the cartels are not just working with
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the Chinese to bring the fentanyl in. Trust me, they're taking money from everybody. This is a
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and this is where we ought to be in a deep interdiction war with the narco state Mexico
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and the cartels to take this all down because they're in business with all the bad guys in the
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world. Todd Benzman, let's lead in. We're going to get to the New York Times finally putting up
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articles and MSNBC melting down. Here's why they're melting down. Let me refer you back to
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border security plus 36, immigration plus 19, crime, which is a subset of plus 23, right?
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They get it. They understand. And that issue said they get blown out of the water. Cortez has said
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from the beginning. It's the two eyes, inflation and immigration. But Todd Benzman, before we get
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into the overall scale of this, brother, Todd Benzman, and this is why we love having Mike Davis
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on and Steve Cortez on and now Cash Patel, all these guys have been called shots. Todd Benzman
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warned America with not just with his book, but with his writings over years and years and years.
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The guy came out of the intelligence group down at the Texas Department of Safety, DPS,
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the Texas Rangers. He was an intelligence guy. He knows. He warned us about terrorists.
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And I don't mean guys that want to be terrorists. I don't mean guys that want to be a jihadi. I don't
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mean guys, the CCP guys that are thinking about it. I mean, guys that are named that are terrorists
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on the watch list. Todd Benzman, as we sit here today on the 20th of September in the year of our
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2022, please tell the American people right now, how many terror watch list people have come into
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this country this year, sir, through the Southern border?
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Okay. Yeah. So the numbers that just came out, 78 on the FBI's watch list, suspected terrorists
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who have been apprehended that we know of, remember about a million gotaways at the very
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least. The number 78 strikes me in a different way too, in that the typical year when I was
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in Intel in Texas here, this is what we tracked. We might have 20 FBI watch listed guys get caught
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in Mexico and at the U S Southern border in a typical year when things were normal.
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So 78 in a, uh, when the year's not even over is just a record smashing number and extremely
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concerning. Uh, I know it doesn't sound like a whole lot 78.
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No, what are you talking about? Hold it. What are you talking about? 25 guys or whatever took
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down the towers, 78, hang on. But that's the, remember the implied is how many got away.
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The multiple got away. How many in the month of August, brother Benzman, how many in the
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month of August, terror watch list, FBI terror watches, not guys that want to be terrorists.
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Not guys are thinking about terror thing, not guys communicating. I mean, on the FBI terror
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watch list in the month of August, sir, 12, God, unbelievable. I want to point out, I want
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to point out that last in May, we had 15. The numbers of these guys is really astounding.
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I mean, we might have like one or two every few months back when I was working Intel, but
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to have 15, uh, 12 in a, in a single four week span tells us that people overseas understand
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that this is an American vulnerability and they're going to take advantage of it.
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And as a matter of fact, there was a, yeah, but hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, right before
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you go to that. But here's the thing. They also understand that. Okay. Our enemies are not
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dumb, whether that is George Soros or the terrorists or the Chinese Communist Party. They're
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cunning. They're all satanic. They're all Luciferian. What's the thing of Satan and Lucifer? They're
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cunning. They're smart in the ways of the world. They understand it's time to get across that border
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now before these Republicans and MAGA take back over at least in the house and start shutting stuff
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down and before Biden gets turfed out. Right. And by the way, the, the number one thing on his
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impeachment is going to be the invasion of the Southern border. That's why you're seeing 15 in May.
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That's why you're seeing 12 in August. They're smart. Let's get across why the getting is good. Todd
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Benzman. Well, first of all, I'm going to plagiarize Luciferian. I appreciate that. Thank you.
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But I was going to point out that there was a case, an FBI case just a couple of months ago,
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busted an Iraqi asylum seeker for plotting to bring in eight Iraqi ISIS operatives to
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assassinate former president George Bush over the border. Uh, those were real guys over there.
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And it was a real mastermind out of Qatar, uh, that was, and it's all laid out in the court records.
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But what this shows us is that the bad guys are very well aware that the border is a vulnerability
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to the United States. That's the way to get in. Now, these other methods are tougher,
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are getting harder and tougher to fly into the U S on a visa, although they can still do that too.
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But the point being is that we have had a number of terrorists cross and get released into the U S
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Repeat, repeat, repeat, hold it. Slow down, slow down. Don't bury your lead here, brother.
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Repeat that slowly, sir. Don't bury your lead. So work with me, work with me, brother.
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I may be the, one of the few, uh, in the country to have reported this, but a Venezuelan of Lebanese
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descent crossed into Brownsville in December, less than a year ago. Uh, he was on the FBI's watch list.
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I have the records of this. They were leaked. Uh, somebody in the bureau was so furious over this
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thing that they leaked the documents, which I have. Uh, and he was on the watch list. He was a
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high risk, substantial terrorism intelligence to rock. We call it D rock on this guy. And the FBI
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recommended that, that ice detain and hold this guy indefinitely. And somebody at headquarters
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intervened on this guy's behalf and ordered them cut loose. And he is now running around in Detroit
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pursuing an asylum claim. Uh, and the reason they, they let him go, according to the documents that I
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have is that they figured that he was a COVID, uh, at risk of catching COVID because he was overweight.
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Hold it. Hold it. Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you got to man the ramparts. Go to
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go to your local, uh, GOP party or go to your local kind of official because in February, February,
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2023, if you want the officials that let him go on national television, sitting down there in front
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of a microphone, getting hammered while we put the emails and their text messages and their meetings
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about why they let him go. Cause a little overweight might get COVID and he's wandering around Detroit,
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Michigan as a terrorist, right? The two ways they get in the country right now is that you take a
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grunge of them from Afghanistan and you don't vet them as Todd Benzman and Ben Burquam. And we had
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so many guys on Steve Cortez saying, Hey, they're not vetting these guys in Afghanistan. They're just
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letting them in or coming across the Southern border through their policies. None of this, none of this
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is a natural physical event. None of this is the second law of thermodynamics. Okay. This is all human
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action in policy. They're doing it because they want to do it and they want to allow it. And now
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we have the chance to hold them accountable through the democratic process. That's called
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getting out to vote and making sure we don't allow the Democrats to cheat because if they can't cheat,
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they can't win. And that's all within your purview. Okay. That's all within your purview.
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So you've got to get it. If you want to have Todd Benzman laying that out on national TV in front of
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a house hearing, right? And you want to then have all the culprits in the administration that have to
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sit there and go, Oh yeah, well, I did send that email or yeah, I did make a phone call down to
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Brownsville and said he should go because he's overweight and COVID. We don't want to catch COVID.
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So now he's wandering around. Now he's wandering around Detroit. It's within your power to do it.
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That happens. That's looking over the side of the hill. If you want that in February, 2023,
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you can deliver that on 8 November of 2022. Todd Benzman, I want to hold you through the break,
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but I want to go back now because your book is going to get through all of this. And that's going to be a
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source document for the impeachment of Joe Biden. He's getting impeached. Article one of his impeachment
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is the invasion on the Southern border. The invasion of the Southern border. Real quickly,
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let's go back to the headlines. Why is the New York Times shocked now, Benzman? War Room and Benzman
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and Burquam and Real America's Voice and Oscar Ramirez and all the guys that risked their life,
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Aud and Cabero, all of them, down in, and Michael Yon, down in, Darian Gabb, down in Southern Mexico,
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all the reporting. Why, as we go to break, Benzman, I may just roll through this. Why is the New York
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Times now have this big reveal that they're 2 million and actually 4.9 million, sir? Why?
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Well, even more interesting is they use the word historic in a subhead of the story that there's
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a, we're on a historic pace is how they put it. But, you know, we've been talking about this as a
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historic monumental event in American history for a year and a half straight. I don't know what's
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going on at the New York Times. Todd, hang on. I tell you what's going on in the New York Times.
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They know they're about to be outed. They get it. They understand the direction. They're smart
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people. They can count. They know we're coming for them. Todd Benzman, next. Where? In the War Room.
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out. The armor-piercing shell. I don't know if we're going to do this morning. I think we're
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going to do this afternoon. He's suing the FBI and the, you know, the FBI that's letting
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terrorists in the country, that FBI. That's not taking on the Mexican drug cartels in business
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with the CCP. They're too busy getting moms at school boards and dads at school boards
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for parental rights to focus on them as domestic terrorists. Or kicking down doors of Trump
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officials. Remember, that game ends on November 8th. Game over. Okay? And the first thing we're
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going to do is the appropriation process, zero out the FBI. Zero out the FBI. Another thing
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we're going to do is cut all these TV shows on NBC, all that crap. All going to go. No
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more shows. And all the guys up there trash-talking MAGA every day, trash-talking the American people
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and hardworking citizens that they're fascists and criminals, everything like that. All of
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you guys, your pensions are going to be stripped and you're going to get your security clearances
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stripped. Okay? So go make a living, you know, monetizing something else besides what
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American taxpayers paid for. You are disgusting and you're revolting. And we're going to take
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action, action, action. The first action at the ballot box where we crush you. And I can
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go back to NBC and talk about where we lead in this. The issue set. Remember, it's issue set
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in what electorate shows up. Their electorate is not going to show up. It's all fantasy. It's
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all fantasy. Now, but here's what they're going to do before I bring back, before I bring
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back, I got to get you some breaking news here. And this breaking news is quite shocking.
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And I told you, I'm going to try to change the game here. So the house right now, remember
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we talked about the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and how the rules were played by straight.
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And I did this on September 29th. I said this publicly, we can play, we'll play the clip maybe
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later. I told John Holman over to the thing, exactly how this thing is going to play out
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according to the rules as they existed, where they're trying to change the rules. This is
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what they're doing internally to the house. And they're going to bring this up for some
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sort of committee vote today. This is the, this is the changes they want. Presidential Election
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Reform Act. Number one, it creates a broad private rights of action that can be easily
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abused by Democrat election lawyers. That'd be Mark Elias. Okay. Number two, allows candidates
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for president to sue for an extended voting period due to, wait for it, catastrophic events.
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Okay. Wonder what that would be. Since Biden said the pandemic's over, how come the emergency
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order hasn't been rescinded? Why is the emergency order not rescinded? He said the pandemic's over.
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Number three, it changes the Electoral College safe harbor date to December 23rd. I think it's
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the 15th of December now. Only seven business days before certification on January 6th.
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And it empowers Congress and federal judges to decide and interpret state election laws
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instead of the states themselves. This is all a move to take away the power where the Constitution
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and the revolutionary framers set it up to be, which is in the state legislatures. We're going to get
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more than this, but this is what Nancy Pelosi, in the dying gasp of a regime that's being crushed.
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Okay. This is how they're trying to change the rules. It's not going to work. We're going to
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reverse all this. This is what the Democrats are spending time. Everybody out in the audience
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that your, your wages are dropping every day. Your net worth is about to drop. They're going
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to raise interest rates. You're going to get crushed. We've got longest. We've got more
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long-term credit card debt than ever in American history. Every person in this audience is being
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destroyed financially. Understand what they're working on up there. They're working to rig elections.
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Let me repeat this. So everybody understands it. In media matters, take your number two pencil out
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and get your pads and papers. Democrats cannot win elections that they don't cheat in. And this
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is another example of cheating. Hey, Ken Burns, when you talk about your rise of fascism, why don't you
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talk about Democrats trying to now rig, go back and rig the Electoral Count Act of 1887? Because this is
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the only way they can win. Why? Because their policies have destroyed working class and middle-class
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Americans, and people have had enough of it. Do I need to go back to the issue set? As reported by NBC News,
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not exactly Trafalgar or Breitbart or Gateway Pundit or Citizens Free Press, right? Their poll,
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their reporting. Do I need to do that? We'll do it this afternoon. We're winning on the issue set.
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We're going to get the electorate out. We're going to destroy the Democratic Party as a national
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political institution at the ballot box. And then we're going to hold you guys accountable,
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okay? Through choking down the appropriation process so you get no money, right? Number one.
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And number two, through investigations. That then we'll refer to a cleaned-up Justice Department,
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particularly in 2024 when we take over, and then prosecute you for the crimes that you're going to
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be prosecuted for, okay? That's in a nutshell. So I want to go back to the invasion on the southern
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border, Article 1 of the impeachment. Todd Benzman, why is the mainstream media now,
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was it Martha's Vineyard? Why is it New York Times? In a sub-headline, they used the word
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historic, Todd Benzman. Why did they finally do that, brother?
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Well, eventually, you can't ignore an 800-pound gorilla. I mean, at some point,
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it's going to have to go to the bathroom. You know, you can't ignore a story this gigantic that
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is just escalating and escalating. By the end of this fiscal year alone, we're going to be at about
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2.3 million. And that's compared to 1.7. That's 450,000 more than last year. And last year was the
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all-time world record breaker. 1.7 million in history, in U.S. history. This is Ellis Island
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proportion page in the history books, this thing. So, you know, I mean, at some point.
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Okay. But hang on. But hang on. I want to get to, and by the way, thank Real America's Voice of the
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Great B-World. This is perfect. Just keep us, we don't need, yeah, I love the way it's in the box.
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Okay. Hang on. The 1.7 and the 2.3, but I want to, because they present it like a detained,
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arrested, of the 1.7 and the 2.3, where if I do my mathematics, right, I get to 4 million,
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right? Just rounding up. And there's more than that, but let's just deal with the 4 million.
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How many of those 4 million get actually sent back out of the country, sir?
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In the beginning of the crisis, early on in the crisis, about 60% were being sent back. The
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majority were being sent back and 40% were being allowed in. That's now flipped. So it's been
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declining ever since. So we're at about 40%, 35%, 40% are being sent back under 42%, and the rest are
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So if I do, hold it, hold it. If I do the, if I do a blend of that, right, if I do a rough
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blend of that, I don't know, roughly 50%, so you're saying at least 2 million are in the country of
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that? And that's not the gotaways or anything else. Just on the number they report,
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there are 2 million, 2 million are here in the country, sir, roughly, of the 4?
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Well, we have one, the only indication that we really have, I mean, we can prognosticate
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and guess, is this court case where they were forced to file how many they were letting get
00:24:19.300
it in. And it looked like it was about 1.2, 1.3 million up until June that they had actually
00:24:27.000
brought in, not counting the gotaways, which is another-
00:24:30.960
Well, hold it, that's, hold it, but that, but that, that'll get to, but by the way, the math,
00:24:34.180
I'm just doing a blended, it's not prognost, I'm just doing what the implied math is of the 40 and
00:24:38.280
the 60. But if that's June, if you roll it all the way out to year end, where you projected the 2.3,
00:24:43.420
that roughly gets you to 2 million. And we can be off by somewhat, but it's essentially
00:24:48.380
directionally correct. My point is, this is, this is an invasion of the United States.
00:24:53.800
These are not asylum seekers. They're economic, Mike, I got it. The world, by the way, the United
00:24:59.980
States is bad and the rest of the world is worse. I got that. Okay. But remember, economic migrants is
00:25:06.760
not a, not a, only the most severe part of political repression, the severe part of political
00:25:13.700
repression. Otherwise you'd have 4 billion people here. I got it. You know, our forefathers and mothers
00:25:20.060
built a paradise here through their heart, through the sweat of their brow. And I, we have a legal
00:25:26.020
immigration system to, to, to let people in appropriately, which I think ought to be much
00:25:30.320
more restrictive until Hispanics and African Americans and people in this country as citizens
00:25:37.100
get a better deal, right? A better deal. I don't see the need for, for doing a ton of legal immigration
00:25:43.880
and I am a restrictionist and I'm proud of it because I'm also a populist, but Todd, tell me
00:25:50.500
where this is going to end up. The reason these are, you're saying that 60% now, hello, it's not a
00:25:55.340
conspiracy. They understand this scam is going to stop. They understand with the new Congress that
00:26:00.780
we're up, wait for it, 36%, 36 points on border security, 19 points in immigration. With that elect,
00:26:09.200
with that issue set, they're going to get blown out in all these districts, including the Rio Grande
00:26:14.160
Valley in South Texas. And then there's a new sheriff in town starting in January. So that's
00:26:19.380
why they're letting even more in Todd Benzman, your thoughts and analysis. Right. Well, one thing I'll
00:26:26.280
just, as you're doing your math there is that there is a recidivism rate built in, uh, it's about 25%
00:26:33.580
built into the number, uh, that, that are being apprehended. When title 42 goes away, that last
00:26:42.360
40% goes away. Then the total number of 2 million that come to the border, we can assume that the
00:26:49.680
vast majority of those will actually get in each year. So next year in the third year of the Biden
00:26:56.180
administration, we probably will have, and not including the gotaways, two plus million that
00:27:03.260
actually enter into the country. And another, another, I guarantee to the American people,
00:27:09.420
as you sit here on September 20th, the year of our Lord, 2022, if we do our job on November 8th,
00:27:15.100
that 2.3 million will never happen. If you don't, it definitely will happen and be more
00:27:20.160
because they're trying to get as many illegal aliens in this country as possible, as quickly
00:27:24.880
as possible. Todd, let me get the cover of the book. How do people get to you? How do they get to
00:27:28.800
the book, sir? You're amazing about how you predicted all this. They do seem to be in a
00:27:34.260
big rush to get a bunch of people in here. I'll say that. Uh, but yeah, no coincidence,
00:27:40.560
brother. The book, the book is amazing. The book is overrun and you can pre-order it. It's not going
00:27:47.740
to be out for another couple of months at toddbensman.com. You'll find the link right up the,
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on the front of toddbensman.com to order that book and America's Covert Border War and, uh,
00:28:00.400
T. Bensman Getter, uh, cause I'm totally shadow banned over on Twitter. So.
00:28:06.220
Of course you are because you're a truth teller. Then I'm going to have Bensman back on hopefully
00:28:10.180
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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War Room Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Okay, welcome back. For the War Room Posse, you know that we were in Metro Phoenix on Friday and
00:29:55.700
Saturday with the great Charlie Kirk and the Turning Point team at this great reset, defeating the great
00:30:00.740
reset. We talked at the Phyllis Schlafly event on Saturday in St. Louis and then did Newport Beach
00:30:07.200
and Huntington Beach on Sunday. And Charlie, here's what I tell you, and that's why I was so impressed
00:30:13.140
with how professional and great and the feedback we got from the War Room folks that showed up
00:30:17.080
were amazing. And most of these people were coming for a first time or a Turning Point because they
00:30:20.700
kind of thought Turning Point was for, you know, young people under 35 or college students.
00:30:25.800
They were so blown away. But talking to the folks at Schlafly's event in St. Louis and then
00:30:31.040
the Newport Beach Huntington event, you could do this across the country. The World Economic Forum,
00:30:37.280
the Party of Davos, globalization is top of mind to people. I mean, these are more advanced than folks
00:30:44.500
on Wall Street about this issue or incorporation. But far beyond, no offense, the guy, men and women
00:30:51.380
in Congress. I mean, this is, except for a handful. They're ahead of it. So tell me, tell me about the,
00:30:57.060
where do you go from here on these conferences and particularly something that you had James
00:31:01.700
Lindsay, you had obviously Joe Allen, Jack Posobiec, Pedro Gonzalez. I mean, this is one set of hitters
00:31:08.020
after the other. Charlie Kirk. Yeah, this was a new thing for us. As you mentioned, Steve, we're a
00:31:13.720
student organization and we have been for the last 10 years, but we're really growing into a citizen
00:31:17.160
organization, citizens of all ages, starting from seven, eight, nine, 10 years old with Turning
00:31:22.040
Point Academy with the curriculum we're doing and the homeschooling all the way up now to any age
00:31:26.560
imaginable of people that want to take back their communities, learn about the Constitution and then
00:31:31.580
push back against these globalist forces using positive, peaceful action. And so, Steve, what really
00:31:37.920
struck me about this last weekend is how almost nobody was on their phone. Nobody was distracted.
00:31:46.140
They were taking notes. I mean, this was a workshop and I totally agree with you, Steve,
00:31:50.920
that the average everyday American that watches War Room, that watches our program, that comes to a
00:31:55.900
Turning Point USA event, they are far more informed about the Great Reset, Davos, Klaus Schwab's
00:32:01.600
transhumanism than Wall Street. And I have a theory. I think there's so much interest in the Great Reset
00:32:08.940
topic because it is the only clarifying prism of which makes all the other otherwise
00:32:15.700
confusing news events make sense. Yes. Why are they letting 5,000 people across the border
00:32:20.560
learn about the Great Reset? It's going to make sense. Why are they creating trillions of dollars
00:32:24.720
out of thin air? Learn about the Great Reset and it will make sense. It actually gives a normal
00:32:29.980
everyday patriot comfort, Steve, because it makes them say, oh, now I see their agenda and now I know
00:32:36.640
how to defeat them. By the way, I want to yesterday afternoon, the number one trending story on Daily
00:32:43.420
Mail that was not related to the Queen's magnificent funeral ceremony was turning points where I
00:32:51.420
stepped up and talked about the transhumanist element of the executive order, which we started
00:32:55.600
the show with today. So, Charlie, that people are media matters, media, but particularly Daily Mail,
00:33:01.060
we're very focused on the conference. So, but I want to, you know, we had polling ahead,
00:33:06.000
Barris on earlier in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has the Republicans running the table. The
00:33:12.020
Wisconsin poll from Barris has it also. We've seen the polling out of Arizona across the board,
00:33:17.420
but they won't poll one topic that I know people are internally polling. And that is this issue of
00:33:23.140
the $1 trillion of basically deadbeat graduate students and college grads who don't have degrees
00:33:30.020
degrees that just, and they had a story. I think the Daily Mail woman has $126,000 and she put her
00:33:35.400
heart and soul into it, but she got a human resources degree at one time and then an MBA that didn't help
00:33:39.960
her. She's never gotten a better job. It's a very tragic story. She's got $126,000 of debt. That's all,
00:33:45.660
it looks like it's all going to be forgiven. And, and, and so, and she was not a deadbeat, but look,
00:33:51.420
they just, you know, they, she got played and she admits it. Charlie, there's no more hot topic out
00:33:57.300
there of middle-class and working-class people feel that they have to underwrite that. Then,
00:34:02.660
then, then people pay for it. Your book, College Scam, and I want everybody to read this book that's
00:34:07.260
thinking of going to college or a parent that's thinking of going to college. And Charlie, I use
00:34:12.240
yours as a perfect example. You're, you're one of the great entrepreneurs in the country. You didn't
00:34:17.280
go to college. Walk me through the college scam for a second and why it's most relevant today in the
00:34:21.720
run-up to November 8th about what's happening in the country of, of people who have taken
00:34:26.860
advantage of the system and making people who didn't take advantage of the system pay for it.
00:34:32.340
Yeah. And it's even worse than that, Steve. It's worse than just bailing out deadbeat graduates.
00:34:37.140
You're bailing out an entire cartel. You're bailing out the entire system, a machinery that funds the
00:34:43.300
Democrat party that indoctrinates your kids and grandkids. We talk about it in the book,
00:34:47.440
The College Scam. It is the most comprehensive book that has been written from a critical standpoint
00:34:52.760
of the entire college cartel. We have it half off at tpusa.com slash book for the war room audience,
00:35:00.540
$15. All proceeds go to Turning Point USA. It's tpusa.com slash book. And Steve, I completely agree
00:35:07.660
from a political standpoint. This is a thermonuclear weapon that every Republican has to learn how to use
00:35:15.100
against the Democrats this cycle. Every Democrat stands for this student loan bribe, but the plumbers,
00:35:20.720
electricians, the veterans, the police officers, the entrepreneurs, people that paid their way
00:35:26.040
through college, people that played sports just to be able to get a scholarship and work those extra
00:35:31.700
mornings and those morning practices. And those, you know, four years of a sport is not necessarily
00:35:36.220
easy at most universities, but they didn't just be able to get a scholarship to get their self
00:35:40.120
through college. What do they have to show for it? Oh, now the government's going to come and bribe
00:35:44.900
and forgive the loans of some population try to win over votes. Steve, I think this is part of this
00:35:51.080
reversal we're seeing. I think part of the polling shift is Biden's announcement on the student loan
00:35:56.520
topic. I think the White House thought it was going to be this huge kind of midterm stimulus
00:36:01.340
politically for them. And it's turning out to be the exact opposite. The more you learn
00:36:05.680
about the industry, that's important. It's not just about the students. It's an industry,
00:36:10.640
no different than big pharma or the national, the, the, the defense, the national security
00:36:17.240
apparatus or the military industrial complex, the national college industrial complex, which we talk
00:36:23.660
about in the book, the college scam is something that every single grassroots patriot needs to
00:36:27.620
educate themselves on. They can get it for just $15. We cut the price in half. TPUSA.com slash book.
00:36:33.960
I want you to be weaponizing this topic. That's why I want you to get the book. So go to TPUSA.com
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to get it. But Charlie, here's what I understand. What is it about these Republican candidates that
00:36:43.560
think I'll be turning off college graduates? They're not, they've already been indoctrinated.
00:36:47.000
Every poll serves, they're not going to vote for us anyway, or at least most of them.
00:36:50.500
Why are we not, why is the official messaging and apparatus of the Republican party? Not all over
00:36:56.540
this topic. There's not a bigger hot topic that irks people, irks them to their core being and
00:37:03.000
will get them to the polls to vote. Why are they not doing it, sir? I mean, consultants are running
00:37:07.640
these campaigns. And when you actually talk to normal voters, this is a primal scream of justice.
00:37:13.760
And whenever Republicans can talk about issues that are centered on justice, we win, whether it be on
00:37:19.400
trade or immigration. You see, Steve, that's not just talking about economic utility. Those are
00:37:24.500
questions of morality, of who should the government serve? You know, the underlying philosophical question
00:37:30.240
of America first is to whom is the government obligated toward, the foreigner or the citizen?
00:37:36.360
The same goes for the student loan question, which is, is the government obligated towards the person
00:37:42.500
that leveraged themselves upwards of $100,000 to go study North African lesbian poetry, or for the
00:37:48.520
person that made prudent financial decisions, works with their hands, part of the muscular class earning
00:37:52.940
$65,000 a year trying to support a family of four, and they get nothing, absolutely nothing. That creates
00:37:59.660
anger and venom. And the Republican establishment, the Republican consulting class, guess what? A lot of their
00:38:05.740
kids are actually going to benefit from this. A lot of Republican consultants' kids go to Harvard or Yale
00:38:10.860
or Georgetown or Stanford. And same with a lot of Republican donors' kids. And that's fine. I'm not
00:38:15.460
trying to accuse them. Right, Steve? We know a lot of these people. They're nice. But the backbone of the
00:38:20.000
Republican Party are now middle-income Hispanics. They are the muscular class in Ohio, Pennsylvania,
00:38:26.120
Georgia, and the heartland of America. They are repulsed by this, Steve. And so Republicans need to
00:38:31.960
start to talk on moral terms more, not just economic utility, not just about GDP or tax cuts. But
00:38:37.620
our government is supposed to represent our voters, not the special crony interests of the Democrat
00:38:43.260
Party or foreign interests abroad. When you talk in those terms, then all of a sudden you're channeling
00:38:48.980
2016 Trump energy. Trump won largely in 2016 because he made a moral argument about who the government is
00:38:56.200
supposed to serve. When Republicans do that, we win big time. By the way, college scam, go to
00:39:02.780
tpausa.com and you can get a special discount right now, only 15 bucks. But get this and understand
00:39:10.620
about the cartel. Charlie, before I ask you what's on the show, you follow us directly. I do beseech you
00:39:16.300
guys to think through that conference. And here's what I like about the conference. When I go to these
00:39:21.420
conferences, I don't like all the goofing around. So this was bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. I mean, it was
00:39:27.080
one heavy hitter. And you're right. People had their notebooks out taking notes. The feedback I got was
00:39:31.720
tremendous as a workshop. And it was just fantastic. What's what are you covering today on the show, Charlie?
00:39:37.620
Yeah, we're going to be talking about this kind of midterm polling surge that you've been talking
00:39:41.300
about to Steve. But I'm also going to caution our audience to be ready for an October surprise. We're
00:39:45.140
going to game out. We're going to play a little bit of what if I was a Democrat. We do this sometimes
00:39:49.240
in our program. And we try to say, OK, I'm a Democrat consultant. I'm Mark Elias. What do I
00:39:53.360
have left? So on our program today, Steve, we're going to go through the three or four things I
00:39:57.340
think they might have in store for us so that we're not taken by surprise. For example, January 6th
00:40:01.840
commission report, looming indictments, social media censorship, all these different sorts of
00:40:06.720
things, possibly, you know, God forbid a federally, you know, let's say infiltrated event of where they
00:40:13.800
try to provoke somebody to do something violent or physical to misrepresent the entire MAGA
00:40:18.500
movement. We need to be vigilant here, Steve, because the polling is great. And you and I both
00:40:22.440
know now that the polling is great, it's probably even better than great because the polling is
00:40:25.760
wrong. You can add five or six to that. That means the bad guys are going to get even more desperate.
00:40:29.980
So we're going to play the question on our show today. What would Mark Elias do?
00:40:34.460
I would like Mark Elias, an evil genius. I would also like you today, hopefully on the show,
00:40:39.120
is that if Biden said the pandemic's over, why hasn't the executive order?
00:40:43.920
We're waiting. Charlie Kirk follows us on Real America's Voice. Charlie, what's your social media
00:40:50.820
Yeah, they go to tpusa.com slash book to get the book or the best way to follow us on social media
00:40:54.700
is on Getter or also they could subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast. Every single phone
00:40:59.100
has a podcast app. If you guys listen to the War Room podcast, also download our podcast.
00:41:03.940
It's fast paced, lots of guests, similar to War Room. And we're just honored to kind of be
00:41:08.220
partners here on Real America's Voice. These two programs here are the two most popular programs in the
00:41:13.020
show that happen during daytime. It's important people recognize that.
00:41:15.580
Thank you, Charlie. Look forward to seeing the show this afternoon and following us in a few minutes.
00:41:21.180
Let's bring us Ben Harnwell, the great Ben Harnwell. Ben, your show's on fire,
00:41:24.960
Abandon's War Room Rome. But man, they're coming in hard on Maloney and the Brothers of Italy and
00:41:31.020
all of it. They don't want to see a two-thirds majority by the right wing. Get us up to date on what's
00:41:38.160
Morning, Steve. Yeah, well, as you might have expected in the run-up to the election as the
00:41:43.300
countdown undergoes, the all sorts of articles from years ago are being dragged out. And right
00:41:51.520
now, the news cycle here in Italy is dominated by some social media posts of, frankly, an obscure
00:42:00.900
politician that no one's ever heard of. I mean, he was a regional councillor some years ago in Sicily.
00:42:07.940
Claudio Pisano, who said that Hitler was a great statesman and a greater sin than that said. He also
00:42:16.540
posted, I stand with Putin. Probably that's the one that's more offending the liberal elites these
00:42:23.720
days. Well, anyway, Giorgio Maloney, the leader of Fratelli d'Italia, took immediate action. She's
00:42:29.800
suspended him from the party, cancelled all of his roles and responsibilities. He was responsible for
00:42:37.860
the party in Agrigento in the north of the island for the campaign. But obviously, this is giving a
00:42:44.880
whole opportunity to the left and to the media to say, look, scratch and beneath the veneer of genteel
00:42:53.500
electability is fascism, just desperate to break through.
00:43:01.440
Desperate, desperate. How do people get to the new show? Because you, sir, are on fire.
00:43:07.160
It's simply my surname, Steve, at Harnwell, and we'll be up in 45 minutes.
00:43:12.180
And we're going to figure out that we understand we've got an English translation problem. We got
00:43:17.040
that audience. We're going to figure it out because it's in Italian, but we're going to do a special
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decision. We'll talk a lot about details later. Ben Harnwell, take a short commercial break.
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Okay, welcome back. I want everybody up on Getter. That's for Ben Harnwell's,
00:45:22.740
the new Bannon's War Room, Italy or Rome is going to be up talking about the vote that's going to
00:45:28.040
take place this week. And we're going to continue on after that because there's so many topics to
00:45:31.040
talk about in Rome. We've asked Father Gerald Murray to join us. He's the author of Calming the Storm,
00:45:36.680
Navigating the Crises Facing the Catholic Church and Society. Father Murray, by the way, a Dartmouth grad,
00:45:42.500
and I want to say up front, having gone to business school with a number of Dartmouth grads and worked
00:45:46.480
on Wall Street with a number of Dartmouth grads. I can say that you and Dinesh D'Souza are the two
00:45:51.640
morally upright successful ones. I'm glad I got a Dartmouth grad on here to talk about this. But
00:45:57.020
let's go. Tell me about, first off, Cardinal, you talk about the crisis in the Catholic Church
00:46:00.760
and the... Tell me about Cardinal Zand. This is an underreported story about his trial
00:46:05.260
in Hong Kong by the CCP, sir. And quite frankly, I haven't seen the Vatican, who has a secret deal
00:46:10.520
with the CCP, really stepping up to defend, who I think is one of the most holiest men in the world,
00:46:16.220
sir. Yeah, Cardinal Zand was arrested on basically propped-up charges because he had been on a board
00:46:23.060
of charity that raised money to help people who had been arrested for protesting in Hong Kong,
00:46:28.980
which, of course, was legal before the communist crackdown. So now they're basically trying to
00:46:34.860
marginalize, put him aside, jail him. The Vatican's reaction when he was first arrested,
00:46:41.700
and then the trial is beginning this week, but the reaction when he was first arrested was,
00:46:45.500
we're following this with concern. That's not a reaction. That's signaling to the communist party
00:46:52.500
in China that we're not going to fight you on this. Now, who knows? Maybe there's behind-the-scenes
00:46:59.760
diplomacy, but that doesn't really work with communists. The communist party is all-invasive.
00:47:06.080
They want to take over everything, including the Catholic Church. And sad to say, as you mentioned,
00:47:11.720
Pope Francis has signed a deal with the Chinese Communist Party for the naming of bishops in
00:47:16.700
China. And the communist party gets to propose candidates for bishops, and then the Holy See
00:47:22.100
will give its approval. That's just anathema. That should never have happened. People who are
00:47:29.220
subjects of communist influence, meaning communists-endorsed priests who want to become bishops,
00:47:35.420
they're the ones you want the people out of the bishops. You want them not to be bishops.
00:47:42.180
Well, no, no. I mean, they had the pedophile situation. I was in Rome for the whole thing.
00:47:46.500
When they announced the secret deal, where they gave them the ability to basically name the bishops,
00:47:51.840
the one thing they said that the layman couldn't get involved in anything with the pedophile was
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because they couldn't have a role in naming bishops. I'm just saying. But Father Murray,
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given everything you've got on your plate, the EWTN hits, everything you've got on your plate,
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the fine time for, what drove you to, because this is a quite powerful book, and it puts the church,
00:48:11.820
particularly the church hierarchy, in not a particularly favorable light about these crises
00:48:16.480
that are both society, but quite frankly, within the Catholic Church. What drove you
00:48:24.240
Well, it's an interview book, so it really is a joint effort with Diane Montagna,
00:48:29.160
a Catholic journalist in Rome. And the effort is to try and inform people about what's going on in the
00:48:35.440
Catholic Church, because people are genuinely upset. Catholics who are faithful to Catholic
00:48:41.180
teaching are shocked by some of the things coming out of Rome. And now, for instance,
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we have a whole process now going on in Germany, but the hierarchy is denying Catholic teaching.
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They're calling for women priests. They're calling for the acceptance of homosexual activity
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as being moral. It's just a complete overthrow of Catholicism by the guardians of the faith in
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Germany. That's one of the reasons we did this book, is because people need to know the church
00:49:08.300
doctrine that comes from Christ doesn't change with talent. What Christ thought at the beginning
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was true, it's been true for the centuries, it continues to be true. But it's the duty of the
00:49:19.360
bishops and of the Pope and of us priests. We're all duty-bound to teach that truth, not to undermine
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it. But that's what's going on, Steve, and that's why there's so much sadness in the church.
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What's going to happen in this German situation? I mean, Pope Benedict, Cardinal Ratzinger came
00:49:36.960
into Germany, obviously Martin Luther. I mean, there's been obviously controversies in Christendom
00:49:42.320
before, but this German, the pretty radical German bishops and cardinals, what's your assessment of
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what's going to happen here? Well, unfortunately, Pope Francis is not willing to discipline them
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very strongly. He's told them not to do what they're doing, but then again, when they defy him,
00:49:59.020
he doesn't do anything. So I don't know where it's going to go. Today, we just had a revelation
00:50:04.100
that the bishops in the Flemish part of Belgium have issued a blessing ceremony for homosexual
00:50:11.860
union. Now, the Pope a year and a half ago issued a document saying the Catholic Church cannot do that
00:50:18.540
because we do not bless sin. Homosexual activity is sinful. We do not bless people who pledge to engage
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in that between themselves. So now the Belgian bishops are saying, well, yes, we do. So, you know,
00:50:30.340
these are irreconcilable teachings, and if the Holy See doesn't defend the teaching of the faith,
00:50:37.520
people are going to become very disillusioned and upset, and then the wayward bishops are going to
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keep marching down the path of sin. So it's a terrible situation we are in, right?
00:50:47.120
Father Murray, how do people get to the book? It's one, particularly Catholics, but even non-Catholics.
00:50:53.060
Christians should read, but all Catholics, and particularly traditional Catholics, where do they
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get the book? Then how do people follow your writings and your media and your social media?
00:51:02.120
Sure. Yeah, the book is available on Amazon. It's also available at the St. Paul Center, who are the
00:51:07.200
publishers. I write a week, a monthly column at the Catholic Thing, and also at the Human Life Review,
00:51:14.540
so you can find me there. And then on EWTN, I'll just send people to YouTube, because EWTN posts
00:51:21.620
all of our segments there, and I'm about a once-a-month guest on Raymond Arroyo's program,
00:51:26.660
the World Oak. So, you know, welcome as many people as possible to follow Dylan.
00:51:32.340
Okay. Given your closeness with Raymond, who I love, I'm going to add Laura Ingram to the successful
00:51:37.540
Dartmouth. Oh, good. So it's Laura Ingram, Dinesh D'Souza. I'm not crazy about some of her stuff with
00:51:42.420
Trump, but Laura Ingram, Dinesh D'Souza, Father Gerald Murray, the successful Dartmouth's greatest.
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Father Murray, don't change ever, because you're a rock, and we love you. So thank you very much
00:51:54.080
for coming on. Thanks, Steve, for having me. We want to put you, look over the next tale,
00:52:00.060
particularly a traditional Catholic. Something wicked this way comes out of Germany. It's going
00:52:05.580
to lead to something that's, you've got a schism coming up, no doubt. Okay. We'll be back at five
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track her down, she's on the campaign trail. We've got a lot going on this afternoon, five to seven.
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