The War Room is a weekly political podcast hosted by Senior Executive Producer Stephen K. Bannon. This week, Steve and his co-host, John Avlon, discuss the latest in the ongoing war on illegal immigration and border security.
00:00:28.000I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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00:00:48.000Safe and legal immigration into this country is a key cornerstone of our own security and prosperity.
00:01:00.000And that he is advancing ways to improve those legal pathways to entry.
00:01:06.000I mean, he increased or dramatically increased the number of refugees that were willing to take in from nations in the hemisphere.
00:01:15.000He also improved the process by which people seeking asylum can do that in, again, a legal, safe way.
00:01:25.000And we're also obviously have to make sure that that it's legal migration we're focused on and that the illegal migration is curbed as best as we can through more more stringent enforcement mechanism.
00:01:42.000So it's a balance. And the president is trying to strike that balance.
00:01:45.000But he is and I think you saw it in the in all the initiatives that were announced yesterday.
00:01:50.000I mean, there's a, you know, striking that balance.
00:01:54.000You can't forget that you we do as a nation of immigrants have an obligation to provide better tools and pathways for them to come in.
00:02:05.000I'm going to play. OK, Denver, get ready to play that again.
00:02:08.000That is the quiet part out loud right there.
00:02:12.000You and your nation have an obligation, an obligation.
00:02:18.000Let me repeat that an obligation. No, sir, we have no obligation.
00:02:21.000That would be incorrect. Here's what we have an obligation to not just secure the board can't build a wall.
00:02:27.000Hey, we built part of the wall as a demonstration of how it could be built.
00:04:59.000And the rights and prerogatives of those citizens must always be primary in assessing any policy, including immigration and whether or not we permit immigration at all.
00:05:10.000I personally believe it's time for a moratorium.
00:05:13.000It is time for a timeout on even legal immigration.
00:05:16.000It's not enough for us just to secure the border.
00:05:21.000But then I think we need to go even further and make the case that immigration as it is presently constructed, legal immigration, is not serving the interests of American citizens, contrary to what Kirby said.
00:05:31.000Here's another appalling statement he made.
00:05:33.000He said that the situation right now in terms of these incoming, this mass trespassing, this tsunami of human trespassers in the United States, he called it, quote, a cornerstone of our security and prosperity.
00:05:45.000A cornerstone of our security and prosperity.
00:05:47.000Is Kirby aware that we right now have 20 straight months of crashing real wages in the United States for American citizens, meaning your income adjusted for the cost of the things you need in your life, adjusted for inflation?
00:06:00.000We get inflation data out in a few days, by the way.
00:06:02.000It might become the 21st straight month under Kirby and Joe Biden that this reality, unfortunately, endures in the United States.
00:06:09.000Does that sound like a good environment to bring in millions of new workers to compete unjustly and illegally in the labor market against American citizens?
00:06:19.000Does that enhance the security and prosperity of American citizens?
00:06:24.000Again, Steve, I think we need to, and I think we on the right, need to try to persuade officeholders.
00:06:28.000And I've been trying to do this so far, frankly, unsuccessfully.
00:06:31.000But persuade officeholders, we need to change the way that we speak about legal immigration because we're so quick on the right to say, oh, listen, we're just against the illegal part.
00:06:41.000No, legal immigration, as it is presently done in the United States, is a disaster for the United States, for American citizens right now.
00:06:48.000OK, this is the priorities of American citizens need to come first.
00:06:53.000And I say this is the son of a legal immigrant. OK, and that is the reality of America.
00:06:58.000It always was the reality, basically, until recent decades.
00:07:01.000It needs to be the reality again. Immigration exists to serve American citizens.
00:07:06.000Cortez, hang on. I want to bring in Bensman.
00:07:09.000Bensman, they've been following your reporting because now they've incorporated what you warned us about, like you said they were going to do.
00:07:31.000Well, the secretive program that I exposed the month before last, when I was in Mexicali, Mexico, is the program that the Biden administration is now laying out there as the central linchpin of legal pathways.
00:07:49.000So what they're going to do is they're planning to bring in 360,000 a year from four nationalities, Haiti, Cuba, Venezuelans, and Nicaraguans, just those four.
00:08:04.000But what nobody's mentioning is that they've already been bringing in tens of thousands under parole in the same way, handing them off at ports of entry of all nationalities all along the border at ports of entry from Tijuana down to Matamoros.
00:08:21.000But what I really want you and your listeners to hear is that there is hope on the horizon.
00:08:28.000Today, a federal court trial in Pensacola, Florida, began that the Attorney General Ashley Moody is challenging the constitutionality of the use of this parole authority.
00:08:48.000Trial starts today in the northern Florida district in Pensacola.
00:09:31.000Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to write this in your notebook.
00:09:34.000You in this country, in the citizen's country, have an obligation to increase legal pathways and other ways for these illegal aliens to get in the country.
00:09:45.000You have an obligation to do that, Todd Bensman.
00:09:49.000Well, this looks to me like the slippery slope toward another federal marijuana law, which we all completely ignore.
00:09:59.000There's a law on the books, you know, marijuana is illegal, the trafficking and sale and all the rest of that.
00:10:06.000That's what they're trying to do to the Immigration and Nationality Act, the INA, which requires detention, deportation, removal.
00:10:19.000This is an alternative parallel system that they created to pipeline in millions of people around the will of Congress in the INA.
00:10:34.000In my opinion, I'm not a lawyer, but but I can read the law.
00:10:38.000And there are minds greater than mine, legal minds greater than mine that agree this is going to be this is illegal.
00:10:45.000And also just nobody, no president in the history of the country that I'm aware of in modern history since the INA has ever proposed the idea that we can just open up the southern border and legalize everybody before they come in and just pipeline millions of people in over the border.
00:11:06.000So most presidents and top DHS, our top law enforcement officials, talk about we got to stop this.
00:13:10.000Do they have the conviction and the guts to hold the line and demand that Biden start doing his job?
00:13:16.000And if he refuses to, then it will be Biden who decides to shut the government down.
00:13:20.000And he will have to deal with the financial consequences of that if he decides to prioritize illegal aliens over paying the bills of the United States.
00:13:28.000They think we're going to play the sucker's play.
00:13:49.000We're going to start the discussion on the debt ceiling, everything that goes with it.
00:13:53.000The total shutdown of this invasion of our nation to break the ownership of the Federal Reserve by these 24 prime brokers making more money on your currency than ever.
00:14:05.000We're going to shut all this crap down.
00:14:07.000And the debt ceiling is going to be the fight.
00:14:08.000And we're not going to wait till they run out of cash to put a shotgun to your head and say, you need to do it right away.
00:14:14.000We're going to lose the full faith and credit of the United States.
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00:15:34.000Immigration into this country is a key cornerstone of our own security and prosperity.
00:15:41.000And that he is advancing ways to improve those legal pathways to entry.
00:15:47.000I mean, he increased or dramatically increased the number of refugees that were willing to take in from nations in the hemisphere.
00:15:56.000He also improved the process by which people seeking asylum can do that in, again, a legal, safe way.
00:16:06.000And we also obviously have to make sure that it's legal migration we're focused on and that the illegal migration is curbed as best as we can through more stringent enforcement mechanisms.
00:16:23.000So it's a balance and the president is trying to strike that balance.
00:16:26.000But he is – and I think you saw it in the – in all the initiatives that were announced yesterday.
00:16:31.000I mean there's a – you know, striking that balance.
00:16:35.000You can't forget that you – that we do as a nation of immigrants have an obligation to provide better tools and pathways for them to come in.
00:16:43.000Benjamin, you added this on your reporting and now they're sitting there going – they're trying to hide the optics.
00:16:52.000That's where they're going to – they're going to process these.
00:16:54.000This is all about throwing away INA, throwing away the asylum process, going to totally illegal measures.
00:17:01.000They're in a federal court in Pensacola right now arguing about some of this.
00:17:04.000But that's why Benson, in Mexico, they're going to process them in this quote-unquote legal pathway illegally and then fly them in at your expense, by the way, into the United States, principally into red states.
00:17:16.000This is – they're – it's pretty – that's pretty well thought through.
00:17:21.000This is – I keep telling you, as bad as a laptop from hell and they're involved in the Chinese Communist Party, which you're going to see is horrific and they're bought and paid for.
00:17:30.000The first article of impeachment and Byron – Byron Donalds, who got a bunch of votes for speaker last week, Byron Donalds on Maria Bartiromo yesterday.
00:17:57.000Todd, you were going and doing this reporting and all this and you forgot the part that we have an obligation to take in the world.
00:18:06.000Sir, what is Admiral Kirby and Joe Biden missing, Todd Benzman?
00:18:12.000Well, I think that they're missing the fact that this is a sovereign nation and all sovereign nations are obliged to say who comes into the country legally or illegally.
00:18:27.000And we're the only one in the world that I know of that exists now or has ever existed that has taken a position that our board or anybody who wants to come, we cede our decision making to you, to these foreign nationals, who, by the way, show up most of the time without any identification.
00:19:16.000And this has got to be a massive focus around the whole debt ceiling and spending and appropriations.
00:19:22.000So, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to fight for your country, strap in because it's going to be complicated and it's going to be tough and it's going to be gnarly.
00:19:29.000Todd, how do people get to you, your new book coming out, all of your writings, your social media, all of it?
00:19:36.000Yeah, I don't have the following that Cortez has on Getter, but I'm at T Benzman at Getter.
00:19:46.000Benzman Todd on Twitter and Center for Immigration Studies, CIS.org.
00:19:53.000I've got a big piece coming out on what the United Nations is doing down in Mexico and beyond, aiding and abetting this whole mass migration.
00:20:05.000There are huge, huge investments happening right now for 2023.
00:21:20.000Just announced the Swiss National Bank.
00:21:23.000Now, the Swiss National Bank is supposed to be the gold standard or the platinum standard as far as judicial use of resources as a central bank.
00:21:31.000You know, the Swiss are, you know, boom, right?
00:24:35.000The narrative that the mainstream media and the Democrats like to run with is that all of these investigations are, you know, political stunts, right?
00:24:46.000They're going to wish that they were just political stunts because with Jim Jordan being placed in charge of this committee with the type of inquiries that they're looking to hold, whether it's into the origins of covid and this Axios article that revealed this committee.
00:25:00.000They specifically mentioned Anthony Fauci by name, even going after DHS and how they've been targeting parents opposed to their children learning critical race theory.
00:25:10.000So they're really, really getting down into the details in terms of I think the angles of attack that the American people want Congress to pursue and really look into the weaponization of.
00:25:21.000And I think the to me kind of the signal, not the noise here and really the buried lead of that whole Axios story is that while it's great that we're focusing on big tech, right, this is coming on the heels of the Twitter files.
00:25:33.000I don't think that Jim Jordan, I think House Republicans are not missing the forest for the trees.
00:25:39.000And what I mean by that is that it's not just the social media platforms or the censorship that we're talking about.
00:25:45.000You know, there was that big intercept story a few months back where it showed that colluding with the federal government.
00:25:51.240It wasn't just Twitter. It wasn't just Facebook. It wasn't just the social media platforms.
00:25:55.320It was really the entire private sector all the way from companies like Johnson and Johnson to Microsoft to companies involved in the power grid to even, you know, consultants really full spectrum dominance of all of America's economy.
00:26:08.780They're all in on this, this, I would say, fusion, this merger between the public and private sector to advance certain agendas, certain narratives on a host of issues.
00:26:19.840So I think that's really the important part of this committee. It's the weaponization of the federal government, not just in big tech, but in all aspects of your life.
00:26:31.000I'm going to take a short break and we'll come back and we've got Tierman in a circle. I got Ben Harnoff of Vatican.
00:26:35.420So we're going to have to juggle some balls here. We've got a lot to do before noon.
00:26:39.560Because there's a lot we don't. Well, here's what we don't want. No more performance art, no more Trey Gowdy is no more performance art of Benghazi when that should have been so serious.
00:26:48.000And it was a joke. He didn't even know. Let's be blunt. Hillary Clinton bench pressed him in that hearing, bench pressed him.
00:26:54.440And and then he wrote a report six months later. Nobody paid attention.
00:26:58.380The question, Natalie, when is when we get back, you're going to have the you're going to have the joint committee on China, on the influence penalty in China.
00:27:05.160They are definitely going to do something sidebar, I think, on Fauci and covid and the vaccines and all that.
00:27:10.120You've got the select committee on the weaponization of the government.
00:27:12.740How do we make sure they all converge on a point?
00:27:15.280You're going to have this investigation on the southern border.
00:27:17.820The investigations are going to be big league because they took appropriations away from us.
00:27:22.440This is why they did the arm of us to take the anvil away from the hammer.
00:27:26.820But they need more money starting September 30th.
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00:28:52.020Right. Make sure you check it all out today.
00:28:59.300I'm sorry you're getting a lot of attention about it, Daily Beast reporter.
00:29:01.740But I'm going to try to get you back on this afternoon.
00:29:03.460We've got to go through that in some level of detail since people's heads are blowing up on the Internet.
00:29:08.060But just real quickly, because I got to get to Brazil and the Vatican, I just want to make sure – this is one of your top priorities because you're such a great investigative reporter.
00:29:18.060Just to keep it all because you're going to have Gallagher's China committee is going to be going after Chinese influence peddling in the United States, plus the rise of China, but also their involvement in the United States.
00:29:27.840You've got the select committee of the Frank Church type of committee by Jordan on the weaponization of the government and the intel community.
00:29:34.420A lot of that they're going to try to do in the SCIF, which we want to make sure all this information gets out, that we don't want to overclassify it so you can't get out.
00:29:43.320I'm sure Fauci is going to be investigated by a number of committees, and you're going to have the southern border.
00:29:47.780Just walk our audience through quickly how we're going to keep that all so it's in their minds and we don't end up with Benghazi's.
00:29:54.540Sure. There are definitely a lot of blurred lines, I think, between these committees because, as we know, the swamp acts.
00:30:01.600It has dominion over really every aspect of our political life, right?
00:30:05.460The border is an issue that's interconnected with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:30:09.040And, of course, the Chinese Communist Party is interconnected with Big Pharma and the origins of COVID and Wuhan.
00:30:14.520So I really think that the key to this is just full transparency.
00:30:18.940I think we really need to press and make sure that these hearings are not held in the SCIF.
00:30:24.600I know there was some talk about that in these kind of secret chambers.
00:30:27.320But really remembering that sunlight is the best disinfectant, holding these hearings out in the open, trying to, you know, not just through the processes of FOIA, like people like myself have access to, but really just making all these documents, these primary sources available to people like the Warren Posse.
00:30:43.920And I think the Warren Posse is going to have a very important role in the next few months because they really have the power to disseminate these stories, to spread the word.
00:30:52.380Because we know, obviously, the left-wing media isn't going to do it.
00:30:55.520And a lot of the corporate Republican media, the mainstream media, isn't going to do it either.
00:30:59.600And I think for people who have hesitation about the, I would say, effectiveness, the legitimacy, the ability for these hearings to actually materialize and, you know, referrals, that is criminal referrals, and not just reports.
00:31:11.580Remember, the Democrats have already set up, you know, three, four, five war rooms to counter these investigations because they know what they're going to uncover is really, really serious stuff.
00:31:21.680I don't think they set up war rooms to counter Trey Gowdy because they didn't need it.
00:31:25.480But with people like Jim Jordan in charge, we actually have a chance to really, I think, cut the head off, of course, speaking metaphorically, but of the swamp and get to the heart of the issue that plagues this country.
00:31:37.420Natalie, you've got a blockbuster story up on the war room this morning we'll get to this afternoon.
00:31:41.940How do people get to you on the site and how do they get to your social media, ma'am?
00:31:45.820Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.
00:31:53.840This story in the Daily Beast is another blockbuster.
00:31:57.220Let me go to the Vatican and to Ben Harnwell.
00:31:59.600By the way, story out in Italian newspaper, Ben, that was translated in a couple of places.
00:32:04.440Is there a couple of cardinals that are trying to make a move on Bergoglio and trying to make sure there's something rolling to remove him from the papacy?
00:32:12.660This is kind of a blockbuster story, if it's true.
00:32:16.500And I love Italian papers, but they've been known to kind of run with things that are, as we used to say at Breitbart, too good to check.
00:32:27.300Well, Steve, it's an interesting story, and I think there are two basically interpretations of this.
00:32:34.040I'll go with the Daily Mail's interpretation.
00:32:36.180They've lifted this article from La Stampa, which is a left-wing Italian daily in the same stable as La Repubblica, which is Italy's version of the New York Times.
00:32:46.700So it's from the left, and apparently a cardinal, an unnamed cardinal, has said that there is now going to be a concerted push amongst the Conservatives in the Sacred College of Cardinals to remove Pope Francis.
00:33:03.880And this comes on the back of the story, which you'll remember, on the 31st of December, the very day that Pope Benedict died, saying that there was going to be a rump of cardinals who were going to try and force a conclave to elect a new pope.
00:33:18.300Under the argument that Benedict's resignation was never valid, he was always pope, and therefore at the death of the pope, you need a conclave to elect a new one.
00:33:26.960So there are these stories going around, and that's the interpretation that the Daily Mail is presenting, that there's going to be now a battle for the future direction of the church.
00:33:39.180What I would suggest, however, Steve, is that really, looking in depth at the citations in Italian that the original article produced, I actually don't believe that this is what it first appears.
00:33:55.420I think that this is more of an attempt, either coordinated directly with Pope Francis or otherwise, by some of his ideological allies to create the pretext for a purge.
00:34:10.260Because the actual number of conservatives in the college of cardinals is a handful, I actually think what is happening is that they're playing on Francis' paranoia, his famous paranoia, to try to get him to just basically remove these cardinals from the sacred college.
00:34:32.240Now this is Machiavellian, which is what the Vatican's all about, the curia.
00:34:36.820Your theory of the case is that since it was in a left-wing journal, this is actually a kind of a false flag operation, and this is to give justification.
00:34:46.840Well, look, you've got these radical cardinals trying to do something to do a further purge of the conservatives.
00:35:00.540My professional background is politics.
00:35:02.180As you know, I worked in the House of Commons in the European Parliament.
00:35:04.860So that is the lens with which I see things.
00:35:08.180And when I have these conversations with more sort of Catholic Rome journalists, I say, no, you're being too political about this.
00:35:15.540The thing is, you know, this is the Catholic Church.
00:35:18.300It doesn't work according to the traditional political schema.
00:35:21.680The problem is every time I've put down a prediction based on my knowledge of politics, it's come, it's come, it's actually been the underlying case.
00:35:30.520Now, this is, here's an example of what I'm suggesting, right?
00:35:34.420The strategy, the so-called strategy here, is that they're going to try to wear Francis down in the way that Benedict was worn down, and so that he just relinquishes the papacy.
00:35:45.320Well, the thing is, anyone who knows anything about Francis knows that he's absolutely paranoid of finishing up in the same situation that Benedict was.
00:35:54.080This is one of his inner insecurities, if you will.
00:35:58.380Another thing is that they call one of the, this unsourced cardinal says that the Pope is a communist as a pretext to want to get rid of him.
00:36:07.520Look, Steve, I spent 13 years in Rome.
00:36:09.380I spoke to a lot of conservative and traditionalist bishops and cardinals.
00:36:16.500They will say that the Pope is creating confusion, and they want that confusion to be clarified.
00:36:22.460Not even in private, they don't, I mean, they might think that, but they never say it.
00:36:26.740So what I think this is, is that this is a parody coming from the left of the church.
00:36:32.600You know, it's more the, you know, the language here that you're hearing is more what you would hear on the wall to describe Pope Francis than actual cardinals.
00:36:41.720So, yes, but he's trying, he's a, this is, by the way, you're not, you're not going to wear, he, go, go ahead.
00:36:51.120He's a guy who's gone on record saying that on a number of occasions, saying that the root of all social evil is, is inequality.
00:36:58.560This guy has died in the world, Marxist, but that's not why the conservatives have a beef with him.
00:37:04.540First off, it's, it's, it's one of the reasons, it's one of the reasons Lula in Brazil against evangelical Christians, traditional Catholics.
00:37:11.820The, the liberation theology of the Jesuits that put in, then affected Central America and Latin America back in the seventies.
00:37:29.880You don't wear the, note to yourself, you don't wear, maybe put the parish priest or the theologians like Benedict, but you ain't wearing down the Jesuits.
00:37:57.260Well, if, uh, if people are folks interested in the line that we're taking here is that traditional Catholics and conservative evangelicals need to come together.
00:38:05.900For the defense of, of, of Christendom.
00:38:08.280This is very much the line promoted by Archbishop Vigano, by the way, um, and his great, uh, blessing, which he bestowed on the war and posse.
00:38:15.180If folks want to hear more about this and what we're doing, my, uh, my profile on Geta is at Harnwell.
00:38:23.560And basically the war room is the only organization in the world that is, that is, that is putting out what I 100% hold to be that the true interpretation of events regarding the Vatican today.
00:40:53.060We're going to get into a deeper dive of this, but real briefly for a couple of minutes.
00:40:56.020If you think of one of the reasons for the – you know, you have South Korea, Japan, our allies, and the littoral nation of South China Sea, Australia, India, all of it, then over to NATO, is the containment, just like for the Soviet Union, the containment of the Chinese Communist Party as they try to consolidate the Eurasian landmass.
00:41:14.540Really, they've reversed that in their strategy.
00:41:17.180If you take Taiwan as Silicon Valley West, which it is, what they're doing with this massive naval and air exercise, you take Taiwan, you then look at Mexico, where they're putting all the fentanyl through, the second opium war, right, all CCP, in partnership with the Mexican cartels, a war on our southern border, and making sure the southern border is open.
00:41:38.640You take Latin America with Brazil as the centerpiece of that, right?
00:41:42.880And then you go over to the Gulf with Iran, cutting deals with them, the mullahs, and also our allies in Saudi Arabia.
00:41:49.160That, and including NATO, and a big story out of this weekend at Germany, none of the kids in Germany want to fight.
00:41:55.820They're all becoming conscientious objectors because they've got to now stand up and defend their country because they've got this threat from the KGB, the Russians, and they won't defend it.
00:42:59.500They're playing a global pincer movement, the same way the Spartans would have done in the Greek city-states, or Alexander the Great would have done out of Macedonia as he conquered half of Europe.
00:43:08.340We're not in a great position, and now we have it in our hemisphere.
00:43:11.580China, under Lula, will have a control of the entire wealth and power and geopolitical strategic positioning of South America.
00:43:34.460Orwell said, in global communism, when they win, it'll be three geographically aligned super states.
00:43:40.060Oceania was always at war with East Asia.
00:43:41.920Well, South America, Mercosur, as they even call it in South America, will be a Marxist super state should the Brazilians accept Lula as their leader,
00:43:52.260because there will never be free, fair, and credible elections again there if this continues to be cemented and validated.
00:43:58.320We see the mainstream press is doing everything they can to do so by calling us, you know, calling them coup, calling us, you know, talking about it, enabling or orchestrating their coup.
00:44:06.880I got off with mainstream press earlier today, and they're asking, you know, how much were we paid to be a part of this?
00:44:11.800I mean, all sorts of fig leaf, canard, BS questions.
00:44:17.200The military right now, the protesters are still camped out, day 71, 72, and they're still camped out outside barracks, especially in Brasilia, which is the headquarters.
00:44:25.820And the police last night were told, the federal police, important to denote the federal police, they are the ones that report to the Supreme Court.
00:44:32.860Alexander Morais, the chief justice of the Supreme Court, has cemented this power structure with his own enforcement-able Praetorian Guard,
00:44:39.800and they were told to clear the protests, and the military told the protesters, stay within our vicinity because we can protect you.
00:44:46.560So there's still a game, and it's still escalating.
00:44:49.180So then Jean Morais, they call him Jean Dow as a pejorative, said that we are going to arrest generals if they do not clear these protests.
00:44:57.620Morais also suspended the governor of Brasilia, who's not even in Bolsonaro's party, but because they're looking for scapegoats for this.
00:45:04.180Just like if anyone's seen Chernobyl, the Soviet system, communists always look for scapegoats that they can throw under the bus to then use as a catalyst for further cementing of power.
00:45:13.720And, of course, Bolsonaro's being blamed.
00:45:15.840You know, Bolsonaro said it very publicly all the time that this ends in one of three ways, his arrest, his death, or victory.
00:45:23.780He forgot to mention fleeing to Orlando at Disney World and Epcot, which is what he did, which is very, very disappointing.
00:45:29.420Yeah, don't. You didn't get a trip to Disneyland.
00:45:32.900Okay, Matthew, real quickly, your social media. We'll have you back on. We're covering this.
00:45:36.620We have Zirkle on tonight. Couldn't get to Jane today. Give us your social media.
00:45:41.680At MatthewTierremont, M-E-T-T-H-E-W-T-Y-R-M-A-N-D, Twitter, Getter, War Room.
00:45:46.600I'll be on Gaffney later, all over the place, just doing as much as I can to elucidate this fog of war situation.
00:45:53.240By the way, Disclose TV just reported, I think Bolsonaro has been admitted to a hospital.
00:45:57.580We don't know any of the facts on this, but it just broke across the wire.
00:46:01.400Matthew, why don't you check it out? We'll talk to you after the show. Maybe we'll get up on Getter.
00:46:04.260But this is coming from Disclose TV. Bolsonaro admitted to a hospital. We'll check all that out.
00:46:09.800Matthew Tierremont, thank you very much. Look forward to getting you and Jane back here.
00:46:13.340Melissa Hooray from the Lindale Recovery Network. You got big news.
00:46:17.000Your show, which starts as a podcast, is now a daily show.
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00:46:24.360Yeah, thanks, Steve. Great to be back here. It's been too long. You never call. You never write.
00:46:29.140Thanks for having me back. So I'm Melissa Hooray. I'm fresh from the Lindale Recovery Network.
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