Episode 2797： Live From Young Women's Leadership Conference Day 2
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In the wake of the trump indictment, the administrative state rears its ugly head and tries to seize control of the military and the executive branch of the United States government. James B. Bacon, former Director of Operations for the Trump White House, joins the show to talk about how to fight back against the "administrative state" and how to defeat it in 2020.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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he is being backed by rich wall street republicans who want to see donald trump get punched in the
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face and they're saying chris christie might be a human sacrifice here because he might not come
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out on top yeah but maybe he is that clears trump and it opens a path for one of these other republicans
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and then christie could say how about a cabinet position for me because you know jared kushner
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squished it the last time he wanted yeah chris christ saying the quiet part out loud just trying
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to clear a path to get rid of trump get rid of all the policies he stands for so they can put in
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someone who's obviously controlled opposition we are live here at the turning point usa's young
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women's leadership summit you got natalie winters co-host and executive editor of war room and captain
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bannon ceo of war room i'm trying to fill in some big shoes for my dad today the biggest we are live
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here in dallas texas we have a breakout session later in the day but in the meantime we got two hours
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of a lot of wood to chop as i'm sure your dad would say you know we've come a long way the rule used to be
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no women in the war room but now it is a a woman-powered war room at least at least for today we'll see
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how it goes we'll see if we get a called back or frankly invited back but don't worry we still have
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a lot of substantive news to get to we should have some of the speakers for this event joining us later
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in the show to talk all things transgender crt all that craziness all that ridiculousness but in the
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meantime we really want to focus on the thing itself which isn't necessarily the trump indictment but
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rather the administrative state because what we're seeing is them just coming out in full force and
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remember if you read the indictment you can see and i'm sure y'all remember a favorite of this
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audience general mark milley he wanted to go to war with basically every single country on this planet
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never found a country he didn't want to invade but specifically it was iran and if you read the
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indictment you can see one of the exchanges that has the left-wing media so upset about trump's actions
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trump's actually talking about how he wants to declassify documents to prove that it was mark milley
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that wanted to start these endless wars and he wanted to end them meanwhile it makes sense to
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have the guy who used to oversee the hague who should be prosecuting genocidal dictators now
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prosecuting the guy who was the only one to ever stop and not start a new endless forever war but i
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guess that's the clown world reality that we live in but talking about the administrative state and how
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it rears its ugly head joining me is none other than james bacon the former director of operations
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uh for presidential personnel in the trump white house basically the hr department um of the first
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iteration of the trump administration he's been on this show before but believe it or not after coming
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on war room he actually got published in the wall street journal believe it or not um with a wonderful
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article entitled 2024 presidential candidates against the administrative state so james we'll get into how
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we actually combat and go up against the administrative state but if you want to sort of summarize and walk
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through this article what you've identified as sort of the the major issues when it comes to combating
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the administrative state at least through the eyes of a republican primary
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of course and everything else that's been going on with general milley recent revelations is that
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the central issue of the 2024 election has become dismantling the administrative state because it's now
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obvious that unless you do that you can't get anything else done this is the one obstacle in the way
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you can't be guaranteed you're going to get any of your regulations done it's no guarantee you're going
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to be able to control the military if you don't dismantle the administrative state and that's what this
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indictment shows more than anything else you know they're not going after hillary clinton for the
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classified information she had stored on her email server which is far more brazen than than what trump
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is accused of doing which is more analogous to not returning your overdue library books but it just it
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just goes to show that the democrats especially in congress protect the deep state by writing these laws these
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civil service protections that protect them from being fired and they grant the deep state all the funding
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they want and in return the deep state looks the other way when the democrats do things and they
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there's certainly an establishment republican contingent that makes up uh that deep state too i think
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frankly a lot of them are are controlled opposition that you may be see that you may see rearing their
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ugly heads in this republican primary but i know you've talked on this show a little bit um about how we
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actually combat the deep state and you've really given us a concrete kind of plan of action a battle
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plan if i may say if you want to walk us through briefly whether it's schedule f um the civil service
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act some of these tools and tactics many you know quivers in the in the arrow for lack of a better word
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that the trump administration or whoever the republican candidate is i think viewers of the show know where
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we stand on that but what exactly are the tools that they have in the apparatus to go up against the
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administrative state so there's this office called the office of personnel management and the next
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president needs to elevate the director of that office to be in his cabinet because that person
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can enact mass government layoffs you can fire hundreds of thousands of people using reduction in
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force exercises which hasn't really been done since reagan the only other guy that started using the
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office of personnel management besides reagan to fight these bureaucrats was trump in his final year
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so you can reorganize the federal government do mass layoffs reassign bureaucrats buy them out give
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them early retirement to leave we don't care in many cases how they leave they just need to leave and
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that's one piece of it the other piece of it is getting your 4 000 political appointees in who are aligned
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loyalty first expertise second there's plenty of expertise in the federal government that's that's
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all these people do they're supposed to implement the president's policies so when they accuse us of
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wanting to politicize the civil service we're actually trying to restore the federal government to its original
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role because if you can't have your elected representatives implementing the policies they were elected to
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implement that's when our democracy is dead and james do you think that one of the next steps is holding
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those accountable um from the from the previous administration you know such as general milley for
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the things that egregious things that he's done yes absolutely i think we need to be keeping tabs on all these
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prosecutors that are run amok especially these military officers that are run amok that are pursuing their own
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agenda i mean i remember being in there and they were trying to get trump into new wars all the time
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they didn't want trump to even begin to negotiate to withdraw from afghanistan when we put in a secretary
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of defense who wanted to withdraw from the forever wars milley and the rest of the military officers
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marched into the oval and they tried to have an intervention i mean these people were trying to drag
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trump into war all the time and he wouldn't fall for it we need to keep tabs on the people who are
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doing this stuff because there has to be zero tolerance policy if we get back in there
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i always say i wish the military industrial complex saw as much of a profit-making opportunity
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on the united states southern border as they did the borders of you know eastern european nations like
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ukraine but alas i don't think we'll get there certainly under the biden regime but i want to ask you
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before got a few minutes uh until we got to cut to break and i'll let you go but you know taking it
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taking a step back right not just looking at trump when you talk about the nullification project i think
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it obviously extends to a lot of his allies too i mean there's no coincidence with the timing i'd call
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it a conspiracy frankly when it comes to tucker getting nuked at fox just weeks before this second
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indictment drops you got ag ken paxton right when you talk about republican ags being able to go after use
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these similar law fair tactics to go after democrats you see ag ken paxton a staunch trump
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ally really a defender of the maga base not only getting impeached you see his ally getting arrested
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by the fbi you see you know jeff clark who used to work in the trump administration getting effectively
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or at least they're trying to basically disbar him from the dc bar right this is law fair on a
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smaller scale but it's really nuking and trying to neuter a lot of his allies and i don't think it's
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lost on anyone especially you what they're doing to your dad trying to take out one of you know
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trump's strongest allies in the media so in terms of the the scope of the administrative state like
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i said you have primary knowledge you were there you were in the white house can you sort of issue
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a warning as to how important this election this time this election cycle is in terms of you know
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taking back the power is this is this our last chance to really take down the administrative state
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well it's clear that it's getting worse every day they're getting more entrenched and they're
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getting more confident in their actions they're starting to see that the republican party has
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become weak and and they don't think that there's going to be any consequences they're getting more
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brazen with the paxton thing with going after trump like this that's why we when we get back in there
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we have to get the total victory we have to win we can't allow this to go on any further unresolved
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and i think that right now the most important thing to be doing is if you're a candidate for
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office that wants to be president you must have a deep state plan you must be naming who's going to
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run your administration who's going to be handling this because if you're not taking this seriously
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and you're just planning on naming some lobbyists to run your transition team when we when we get to
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project when we get to 2025 then it's over before it begins we can't afford to go through another
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how about this ban all lobbyists ban all foreign agents probably thrown a couple other people in
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that category it should be nowhere near the next trump administration james i know you're working on a
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project to combat all this if you want to tell us a little bit about that and where people can find
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you what your coordinates are on social media if you if you have them i feel like you're you're elusive
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but if people want to find you where can they find you so i'm working on project 2025 which is an
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initiative of the heritage foundation to recruit grassroots conservatives from outside of dc who want
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to serve in the next administration you know in 2017 there was this thing called greatagain.gov
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and it was basically recruiting trump supporters to serve in trump's administration but like i said
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the establishment on the transition team and in the personnel office didn't hire a single person
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from greatagain.gov it was kind of it was kind of this original sin so we're trying to rectify that
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we're trying to make sure that the true patriots can come into the next administration this time
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so if you're interested please go to project 2025.org and hit the apply button we're going to train
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you on how to be an effective political appointee because frankly president trump did not get the
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administration that he deserved the last time and we want to make sure that that does not happen again
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trump supporters staffing a trump administration imagine that but unfortunately with the deep state and
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the city of dc they seem to make that pretty darn difficult james thank you so much for joining us
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we'll see you soon thank you for having me thank you for having me of course well i think this is
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exactly the government that our founders warned us about mo your thoughts um i agree with exactly what
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james said and i think that we do need to hold people accountable for what they've done especially
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clearly i'm very passionate about the military and we need to hold especially those senior leaders
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within the military accountable for what they've done botched afghanistan withdrawal and far above that
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everything that was failed under this regime people need to be held accountable for certainly i think
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that's one of the ways that the administrative state really i think undermines the way that people
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love support and defend this country because when you take that oath right when you're in uniform it
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doesn't ever expire but certainly makes it hard i think to rationalize and justify all the sacrifices
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that people have made when you see the crazy woke you know frankly trans agenda that they're pushing
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on these bases whether with these drag queen shows or just from a long-term strategy perspective when
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you see them just needlessly endlessly pushing these foreign wars with iran of all country meanwhile
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you have millie briefing china secretly a hundred percent and we're not even focusing on war fighting so
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how can we fight these foreign wars that they want to get us into when we're focusing on pronoun training
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transgender training we're not even focusing on war fighting so we're setting up our military
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for failure when we're not even training them to do what they need to do we're too busy giving billions
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of dollars to ukraine depleting our own uh internal ammo resources tanks all things war but hey i've not
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i've read a lot of sun tzu i've never heard the war strategy of give your enemies uh your own ammo but
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maybe maybe we're just rubes as the mainstream media would say oh a hundred percent and stay
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hong kong we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp
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welcome back to the war room you got natalie winters and captain bannon holding down the fort at
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turning point usa's young women's leadership summit will be speaking in a bit talking about what it's
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like to be in alternative media with all the fact checkers and getting accused of spreading
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misinformation and disinformation every day it is an absolute joy i'm obviously kidding there's
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nothing better than getting to talk to the war room posse every day we got john frederick's joining
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us soon but before we get there just to sort of pick up where we left off talking about the
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administrative state you know the administrative state has come after you on a personal level obviously
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right with the way that they they target your father i think probably second only to donald trump
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he's the man that they fear the most and i'm just curious to sort of personalize it and put some
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human emotions behind it because sometimes i think the establishment doesn't understand that
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we are people too yeah what's it like a hundred percent the establishment doesn't i think realize that
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everyone is human and that people have families so not only does this affect donald trump my dad it
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affects their families you're not only targeting that person it you're targeting that family and
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they think that they're going to silence my dad they're not going to silence my dad he's going to
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keep fighting and he's they're not going to silence my family so we're going to keep fighting along with
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them so the bannon family true american patriots i feel honored just to sit next to you and work
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work with your dad but in the meantime someone else who i'm honored to have on sure that the deep state
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is coming after you too mr john fredericks but you are down in columbus georgia at the republican
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republican party of georgia's gop convention where they're planning and plotting all their leaders
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for the next year hopefully a lot of trump loyalists are among the ranks john if you want
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to give us sort of a boots on the ground rundown we'd appreciate that
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well natalie marine thanks for having me and let me just say that this is the untold story that's
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going on in america right now this is the complete takeover of a state party by the maga movement the
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first one that's happened in the united states and this is a major party it's not like we're taking over
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hawaii where you don't win this is one of the this is the key swing state and what has happened is for
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three years we have asked people uh from war room the war room posse our radio show here in atlanta
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nationally look get involved get up off the couch join the local unit join your party be a precinct
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chair you have to get involved we have to take this thing over because if we're ever going to be
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successful we have to eventually gain control of the entire corrupt republican apparatus the apparatchiks
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that's what we have to do we tried to do it in uh dana point california it was a little early we
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came within 30 votes of knocking off ronald romney mcdaniel we banged on the door next time we're
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going to kick it in what is going on in georgia the fake news isn't going to tell you 70 of the
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delegates are brand new from just two years ago think of that they're new from two years ago they're all
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they're all america first they're all part of the movement they all came to get involved this is the
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first time they've been a delegate and they've been inspired by your father by me by a radio
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presence by steve stern precinct 2.0 dan schultz this is that whole process culminating in one day
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here in columbus georgia where our entire slate of mega leadership from chairman get this from chairman
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all the way down to assistant secretary secretary treasurer assistant treasurer first vice chair
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second vice chair chairman of the uh chairman of the over 80 group every single one of them are 100
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trump mega leaders every one so we're about this afternoon to run the table old guard is gone in fact
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guys this is such an unbelievable route of the establishment and the old apparatchiks here it is
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such a route that the majority of the republican statewide elected officials didn't come starting with
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governor kemp didn't come brad raffensperger not here attorney general chris carr not here insurance
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commissioner john king not here they boycotted it mike pence was supposed to be the keynote speaker at
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the dinner friday he bailed why because he was going to get heckled off the stage because we took the
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thing over so exit pence incomes carrie lake who did a spectacular job yesterday so no not desantis he was
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supposed to be here he bailed because he'd get booed this is a complete takeover of a major political
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party which is going to happen in about six hours culminating today with president trump addressing
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the crowd we're going to be covering this live starting at 1 p.m just go to john fredericks radio
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dot com it's all there uh we're going to be covering this starting at 1 p.m the president speaking i don't
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know somewhere around 2 or 3 p.m this is going to be a first his first address since uh the boxes
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hoax indictment of mar-a-lago but it was even more exciting than this this is going to be the next
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best thing to a full trump rally as his supporters have stormed this convention their delegates they've
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taken it over and if we can do it in georgia folks we can do it in all 50 states and then we
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could do it at the rnc so john i know how you mentioned that president trump is uh culminating
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the event today how how do you think trump is going to rally the troops i think he's going to do what he
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always does he's going to tell the truth the truth will set us free he's going to tell the truth look i
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don't care how many times they and they indict him he's only going to go up in the polls again
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this nonsense in florida 37 counts he moved around boxes look joe biden's took five million dollars
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from foreign governments while he was vice president allegedly that's what the receipts are showing this
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is all a bunch of nonsense he is going to be the nominee this thing is over he's going this thing is
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going to be done by by the time you get the super tuesday and he's going to march into milwaukee with
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an overwhelming majority of delegates to be the nominee and he's going to go on to win but the big
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thing here the big thing and this is speech is going to be awesome but the big thing is we've proven in
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georgia this is a major state right you have to win georgia if you're going to win the white house
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we've proven that if you do what we've implored if you be if you join your unit if you become a
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precinct chair if you go through the process and this is the thing all these new delegates here 70
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are new they figured out the process just like we figured out how a chairman of the party wins the
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so-called 168 right nobody knew how that worked now we figured it out we're penetrating everything so
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they figured out okay i got to join my unit i got to be a precinct chair here's how i become a
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delegate i got to go to the mass meeting well what's the mass meeting i got to go to the district
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meeting i got to the county meeting i got to sign the form i got to pay the ten dollars whatever it
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is now you're a delegate now you come to the convention and now you elect your leaders and
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we're going to take over the georgia republican party a to z lock stock and barrel the whole thing
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in about six hours it's a beautiful thing john you always tell it like it is you don't give us false
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hope you've obviously been on one specific side of the whole ballot harvesting debate obviously
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democrats have been targeting the state of georgia it's a swing state there's some interesting laws
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there when it comes to mail-in ballots we've seen some very interesting races shake out there and i know
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the the establishment has poured millions tens of millions probably hundreds of millions of dollars
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specifically into georgia whether it's through the carter center and their vote monitoring programs
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or a lot of these sort of election misinformation efforts they're always based in georgia there's a
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reason that they care you know stacy abrams one of their their saints uh even though all she can
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ever do is lose obviously comes from georgia right there's something about georgia that's very
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important to democrats you got about a minute and a half before i have to let you go um but do you
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think what republicans are doing now they're playing smash mouth hopefully but do you think that's
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enough to actually make up for this lost territory when it comes to going up against democrats at the
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ballot box well we got 18 months and it's a it's a start former u.s senator republican kelly
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loeffler has been at the engine of this move to get new people registered but look you can't win the
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white house if you don't carry georgia and the democrats know this and they have a huge head start
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so what we have to do is clean up the rolls obviously we're trying to do that but even
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bigger than that we have to get people to vote we got to get them to vote early we have to get
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them to vote by mail white we we have to level the playing field there's drop boxes here those are
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legal they're baked in the cake republicans passed it we got to get ballots in envelopes the democrats have
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perfected the mail out ballot system you're not going to change it between now and october because the
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only election reform bill that the republicans put through still has the mail out ballot so what
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happened is democrats get the ballots automatically because they didn't check the box and then their
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uh their operatives follow up and get them to mail it in and then they have a better operation on game
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day because they get 50 days to vote and we're giving ourselves 12 hours so you can't win so look we're
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starting to understand you have to vote early you have to vote by mail you have to get in the game
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and the only way we're going to win this is by overwhelming the system watching everything they do
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getting out or rural voters in the 70 or 80 percentile not 52 percent like we did in the midterms
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and then we have an opportunity to win but we're certainly today going to put the leadership in place
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in order to do that and carry georgia for president trump in november 2024 democrats are in the ballot
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business meanwhile republicans are stuck in the vote business and there's an important distinction
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thank you thank you for asking uh all of our social media at jf radio show download my app just go to
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welcome back to the war room we're here at turning point usa's young women's leadership summit so it
00:30:13.180
seems only only fitting to have a male guest as our first in-person guest of the show who also
00:30:19.260
is actually doing my job because he's helping us get actual guests the speakers at this program we
00:30:23.740
should have uh the wonderful congressman lauren bobert joining us shortly about 45 minutes to
00:30:29.500
45 minutes okay we're gonna go with 45 minutes that's what we're reporting here on the war room
00:30:34.140
but we have andrew i don't actually know your last name yeah okay we commonly known as producer andrew
00:30:39.260
so don't worry that's fine andrew the last names are relevant but also guest host too we have some
00:30:43.740
common ground we we know what it's like to have to fill very big shoes and try our best but not
00:30:49.260
always succeed i fill in for uh charlie charlie kirk on the charlie kirk show um i'm the executive
00:30:54.700
producer i guess technically i'm the executive editor but um yeah so uh but yeah i mean in general i'm
00:31:02.220
from a media standpoint i'm the spokesperson for turning point action and turning point usa in this
00:31:06.460
capacity um so yeah i mean we we wear a lot of hats natalie i think that's a lot of hats well
00:31:13.260
domestic terrorist hats too according to the department of homeland security i haven't got that one yet
00:31:17.820
but you i'm sure you're not that far along in the pyramid yeah i'm i'm at the top they had to
00:31:22.140
you two know what that's like for me yeah well i want to talk about substantive stuff see this these
00:31:27.420
events are so fun i feel like i lose the fact that i'm doing live broadcasting and i feel like i'm
00:31:31.820
just talking to friends but meanwhile we're on we're on live tv but that's all good um but i want to talk
00:31:36.700
what we were talking about before in the break when it comes to sort of the ballot versus votes game
00:31:40.780
because i think that is among the issues including the administrative state sort of the issue itself right
00:31:46.300
right none of this matters we can't actually take on the deep state if we can't get good people in
00:31:50.540
there who actually want to take on the deep state because they're not a part of the deep state so if
00:31:54.300
you want to let the war room audience know what you guys are doing at turning point and turning point
00:31:58.300
action to really take the election and not elections in the sense of candidates but actual electioneering
00:32:05.660
as an art and when it comes to ballots versus votes ballot harvesting all these
00:32:09.260
fun terms that i don't think we knew a lot about until the 2020 election what are you guys doing
00:32:13.420
yeah i i you know i thought what john fredericks was saying before i came on was was spot on actually
00:32:20.380
i mean what we have is essentially we have 2020 was a wake-up call right we all agree we thought we
00:32:26.700
had the momentum the energy and i think we did we realized that the democrats gamed the system in the
00:32:33.980
sense that they saw universal mail-in balloting as as an opportunity to overcome what would be an energy
00:32:40.620
uh deficit that they had uh a candidate deficit i mean biden could barely campaign um but we sort
00:32:48.700
of at that point said well the rnc is going to get it right so the rnc raises 450 million dollars a year
00:32:54.700
they're going to take care of it well they didn't 2022 was another wake-up call where we we had all
00:33:00.300
basically the same rules in place but we and we had better polling even than we did in 2020 in many ways
00:33:07.020
and we still we still came up short uh so two wake-up calls uh really prompted turning point
00:33:14.220
action the c4 the sister c4 to turning point usa to say listen we can't wait on other groups to do
00:33:20.300
this we can't we can't just stay focused in our lane we have to expand which lanes we're willing to
00:33:25.340
play in and so right now turning point action is currently in the middle of a of a massive raise
00:33:31.180
actually uh small dollar donors are most welcome trust me turning point action tpaction.com
00:33:38.060
if you guys want to get involved you can become a precinct committeeman you can donate small dollar
00:33:42.780
donations large dollar to helping us fund these efforts but we just made we just announced a five
00:33:48.300
million dollar commitment in the state of wisconsin so it really comes down to this we are behind on the
00:33:56.140
machine but we have the momentum we have the energy we have the polling we need the machine to
00:34:00.860
catch up uh and so five million in wisconsin is really a drop in the bucket we want to we want to
00:34:06.140
do much more uh but that's what we are prepared to do right now we're going to be partnering with uh
00:34:10.220
scott presler's organization up there who uh in 2023 really built out a network of grassroots
00:34:17.500
activists we have our own grassroots activists paid on the ground in wisconsin so we think it comes down
00:34:23.660
to three states really if you're going to assume that we hold wisconsin or iowa if you're going to assume
00:34:28.620
that we hold north carolina if you're going to assume that we um are going to hold florida texas
00:34:34.700
the ones that you would assume it comes down to three states wisconsin arizona and georgia and that
00:34:41.900
wasn't the case before the census numbers came out so now we can actually get across that 270 threshold
00:34:46.700
if we hold those three states so we think we've got to make massive massive on the ground investments
00:34:51.820
in those three states and if the rnc wants to to get involved they want to do their part too that's great
00:34:56.700
but we can't depend on those people anymore i think that much has been clear and so we really
00:35:00.860
have a vision to put hundreds of uh field staff you know that that's sort of like clipboards and
00:35:06.780
tennis shoes work but take it to the next level so we've developed the technology we've developed the
00:35:10.860
data and there's really just few other organizations that are positioned the way that turning point action
00:35:16.140
is positioned i mean we have a we have a network of thousands of young people that are ready to do this
00:35:20.460
work we have a donor uh base that's ready to get behind it and so we just basically said we can't
00:35:27.420
we can't be on the sidelines in this really important way we're going to get we're going
00:35:30.540
to get to it and we're going to announce much more at accon uh 2023 i don't know if i lost my mic
00:35:36.380
i think just keep going with it oh there it is um in uh accon 2023 it's our inaugural big conference
00:35:43.820
in the summer we've never done this before with the c4 obviously we've done it with the c3 tposa
00:35:48.300
throws big summits all the time um but this is uh we're gonna have tucker carlson steve bannon we're
00:35:54.220
gonna have never heard of him donald trump is coming we're gonna we're inviting all the
00:35:58.300
presidential candidates uh but really there's gonna be a lot more announcements there and uh
00:36:02.380
yeah i think it's the most important missing piece uh to get across the finish line in 2024
00:36:08.220
well i agree with basically everything you said with the exception of that we should have waited for
00:36:11.900
the rnc to get involved i think we we know that they weren't gonna ever do it well you know you
00:36:16.620
say that okay everything's hindsight's 2020 right i mean trump was railing about mail-in ballots in the
00:36:23.420
lead up to 2020 um and he remained you know very very much engaged with that uh with rnc even moving
00:36:30.060
into 2022 i think a lot of us thought that they were going to be more sophisticated than they were
00:36:35.820
and then you have that nbc article that came out i don't know if you saw that one where it basically
00:36:40.300
alleged that there was a lot of fraud that the vendors that they were using and listen hiring is tough
00:36:45.820
we get it hiring outside parties is tough but there was a lack of accountability a lack of follow
00:36:50.860
through um and a lack of sophistication frankly and i think that the base is fed up with it right
00:36:58.300
and that's why turning point action like i said we would love to not have to do this we would love to
00:37:02.700
have other jobs things we are already doing really well and we want to grow those well guess what we we
00:37:07.500
have to it the country depends on it so we're gonna get involved it's it's the issue itself you know
00:37:11.740
i used to be still am an investigative reporter and a lot of my work focused on obviously chinese
00:37:16.060
communist party infiltration but also sort of these dark money networks operated by the far left and
00:37:21.500
very far left and it was very interesting because they would always have a fixation on these critical
00:37:25.820
swing states right the michigans the wisconsin's the arizona's the georgia's of the world and i'm
00:37:30.060
inclined to think of the most recent program that the carter center rolled out this sort of election
00:37:34.620
monitoring program not only believe it or not the carter center is also response responsible for
00:37:39.180
monitoring elections in communist china they run the same foreign missions to observe elections
00:37:44.380
there non-partisan independent they use all the euphemistic adjectives but they rolled out these
00:37:49.260
same exact program here for the 2022 midterms again focusing on arizona georgia wisconsin and michigan
00:37:56.220
and they had a sister sort of anti-election misinformation program to go along with it in true chinese
00:38:01.900
communist party style fashion so i'm just curious because obviously you're talking to the war room audience
00:38:06.860
right now one of the most involved audiences that i think exists in at least recent history if not
00:38:12.060
all of history it's amazing undeniable so can you sort of walk them through what getting involved
00:38:17.900
would actually look like and what they can do whether it's through turning point or turning point
00:38:21.980
action specifically on the election integrity fund because that's the number one question that i get
00:38:26.060
anytime i meet war room posse if they sign up if they give money if they want to get involved if they
00:38:30.780
want to become a precinct committee man or woman uh no no trans no i'm kidding uh but what what does it
00:38:36.380
actually look like yeah i mean you are the captain of your precinct you are in charge of overseeing it
00:38:45.100
monitoring it um it's actually a relatively low time commitment and you can make it as you can make it a
00:38:50.460
larger time commitment if you if you so choose uh but you can sign up to become actually we have uh signed
00:38:56.380
up right here at this event uh over uh this is like i don't know like eight hours old now so i don't
00:39:01.980
know what the new number is but we're around 200 precinct committee men uh signups women uh signups here
00:39:08.860
at young women's leadership summit no i mean the the energy here at this event is is phenomenal i think
00:39:13.180
it's representative of of this grassroots swelling energy um but yeah go to turning point action tp
00:39:20.060
action.com if you want to get involved uh and sign up to become a precinct uh committee man or committee
00:39:25.500
woman um and you will you you get to be the hands and feet of democracy and uh it really is that
00:39:32.220
simple you get to be uh involved at a very local level at the at the community level and um you get
00:39:38.620
to oversee everything and you can be a firewall for election integrity matters in a big way um and and
00:39:44.780
then you know obviously uh donating is is huge but um because we we still have a long way to go with
00:39:50.700
our fundraising but listen we're we're talking to big donors and small donors and it's going to take an
00:39:55.260
army we know that the war room posse is going to be a huge piece of building that infrastructure so
00:40:01.260
um i think the time i think the first part of everything i said was we cannot abdicate our
00:40:06.780
responsibility anymore and that includes this audience that includes what we do at turning
00:40:09.980
point action and uh turning point usa here at the summit so go ahead and i know the war room posse
00:40:15.100
they love all the turning point events we always get a big crowd at the events so how does the posse
00:40:20.620
um find out more about at con oh yeah uh tp action.com forward slash act act con um which is
00:40:29.900
our sort of acronym for the event it's turning point action conference but we're calling it at con
00:40:34.140
2023 um so yeah it said tp action.com forward slash at con um and like i said we're gonna have tucker
00:40:41.740
carlson steve bannon dan bongino uh we're gonna have matt gates lauren bobert who's coming here shortly
00:40:48.140
uh senator 40 minutes now probably about 39 yeah uh we've got um senator holly senator jd vance um
00:40:56.780
we've got some really big announcements coming up in the next uh few days so stay tuned so there's
00:41:01.580
gonna be some more big names added to this and uh tickets are selling out like gonna be headlining
00:41:06.940
it i i will not be headlining it uh charlie might make me uh co-host his show those days which uh
00:41:13.420
this isn't a bad gig no it's not bad at all which you did yesterday i saw you yesterday i did i did
00:41:18.140
we railed against the indictment um as we should um because the democrats are unleashing something uh
00:41:23.980
i don't think they really understand on the country uh which is really sad we can talk about
00:41:27.340
i was gonna ask you your thoughts on the indictment yeah i mean um it really does come down to that i
00:41:32.460
mean i i grew up in an america that really in so many ways doesn't resemble the america of today and
00:41:39.500
that makes me tremendously sad for our country there was a time where our uh statesmen and
00:41:44.700
states women states woman women um really we are at a young women's leadership summit it's only
00:41:50.140
fitting where they where they uh you're a great expert on young women's leadership so this is like
00:41:55.100
my sixth i think i don't know um the um we grew up in a we grew up in a country where uh our leaders
00:42:01.900
exercised caution and they had a conservative approach about uh legal matters involving political
00:42:09.900
our elected leaders and especially a former president and um i think the reason that they
00:42:16.700
knew to to take a conservative approach is because it was going to embroil the country in honestly a
00:42:23.500
form of sectarianism and tribalism that our founders really uh didn't didn't uh want for us and so
00:42:31.100
uh it's a scary time it's uh you know i think that uh you know what what i noticed from my first
00:42:38.060
reading of the indictment when it was unsealed was there's no mention of the presidential records act
00:42:42.940
in his statement there was no mention of the presidential records act and i'm i'm referring to
00:42:46.700
jack smith um you you they they are trying to short circuit the presidential records act by making
00:42:53.740
it about now section 793 the espionage act which is i think you know the presidential records act
00:43:01.580
gives him a sort of trump's pun intended uh these charges of the espionage act because and they knew
00:43:07.580
that uh and so they went around it they short circuit it and they're trying to rush the trial
00:43:11.660
um and so we'll see how it plays out but they don't want the presidency to mean anything because
00:43:15.580
it's that's an existential threat to the power of the administrative state andrew we have to let
00:43:19.420
you go but if people i know i'm sorry but if people want to people for some reason want to
00:43:23.740
follow you where can they find you just you know download the charlie kirk show podcast um that's
00:43:29.820
the best way to stay in touch with everything that we're doing so the charlie kirk show take out your
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podcast app download it we're going to have a lot of exclusive content from this event and uh much more
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to come lots going on thank you for joining us and stay tuned for the war room we're here in dallas at
00:43:44.620
ywls we'll be back shortly from our break we got annabella rockwell joining us next to talk about
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welcome back to the war room it's natalie winters captain bannon and a guest we'll be getting to in
00:46:29.500
just a second annabella rockwell but before we get there you guys know we're traveling we're on the
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speaking of other things that might make you lose some sleep i don't know if you guys saw
00:46:59.260
but in the california state legislature they just recently passed and i think they're working
00:47:04.780
to get full approval on it ab597 which is a bill and i'm not being hyperbolic here
00:47:10.540
uh that if you object to your children your child undergoing a gender transition if you don't
00:47:15.900
affirm uh whatever gender they feel like they are that day you could get arrested on child abuse
00:47:22.700
charges that's the level of craziness and frankly calculated subversion of parental rights and
00:47:28.700
destruction of the nuclear family that we're seeing going on here in the united states and like you guys
00:47:33.420
know as someone who is an investigative reporter primarily focusing on the chinese communist party i see
00:47:38.860
all too many parallels with the cultural revolution that went on there because what you're seeing
00:47:44.780
going on here mal i was going to say he'd be proud of but i think we're maybe even in the territory of
00:47:50.700
something he'd envy and someone who knows a little bit about mal and what he wants to do at least
00:47:57.020
transposed here in the united states through cultural revolutions is annabella rockwell people in the war
00:48:01.980
and posse may know may have seen her on tucker carlson talking about her story a few months ago
00:48:08.620
but you were the girl whose mom had to spend a bunch of money to get deprogrammed because you
00:48:12.460
drank the kool-aid when you were in college am i wrong oh boy did i drink it so before we get into
00:48:18.700
the again deprogrammers that your parents had to hire i gotta disclose annabelle is a dear friend
00:48:23.820
of mine we are friends from palm beach so she's she's great love her um but give us sort of your
00:48:29.980
background and we'll hold you through because this is a short break but you can start the story
00:48:33.980
because i'm sure the audience wants to hear well thank you so much um natalie maureen war room steve
00:48:39.260
everyone for having me uh my story starts you know i'm from new york originally i'm an only child
00:48:44.540
grew up very normal you know what one would maybe consider conservative now was just pretty standard i
00:48:50.380
loved this country i had a lot of pride my parents were good about showing me the world so i always
00:48:55.580
appreciated america and our culture here i even lived abroad for a bit when i was younger in the
00:48:59.660
bahamas um and i went to mount holyoke college in western massachusetts that's the oldest women's
00:49:06.220
college in the country um and i entered and it was just immediately a culture shock they told me
00:49:15.980
from day one you know don't assume someone's gender keep in mind this is a women's college you
00:49:20.460
know i was so proud to go to a seven sister the first one of its kind the seven sisters were the
00:49:25.500
sisters to the ivy leagues when the ivy's were men's colleges so i mean they were they it meant so much
00:49:32.620
to be able to be a woman walking on campus but as soon as i got there they they said you know don't
00:49:37.740
assume someone's gender there's this actual ritualistic haircut which does remind me of mal and cultural
00:49:43.180
evolution is that we had something called the moho chop where you're meant to cut your hair kind of in
00:49:48.380
in protest to the patriarchy and that was just taught to me as soon as i got on campus and i kind
00:49:53.900
of i mean i just i fell for it all i remember you had some interesting stories about what your
00:50:01.260
professors were telling you and how you felt that they were sort of trying to pull you away from your
00:50:05.900
family and all these traditional values it it really was i think some of these horror stories that
00:50:10.140
people see whether it's on twitter and alternative media it really was egregious and almost targeted it
00:50:16.940
seemed like there was sort of a broader agenda that they were pushing on you am i wrong you're
00:50:22.220
correct there's this idea that it's your responsibility to go home and fight your family
00:50:26.780
over the thanksgiving dinner table i mean you're told in school that we live in a racist patriarchal
00:50:33.100
society that columbus was a genocidal maniac that our whole foundation is is a lie and it's evil so you
00:50:41.260
have to go home and you have to tell your family you know mom dad you guys are racist just by existing
00:50:45.420
just by being white mom you're oppressed just by being a woman and so because of that you go home
00:50:50.220
you're so combative and i was so obsessed with all this ideology because i had stopped believing in
00:50:55.340
god so it became my entire being my entire job down on that second on that thought that how you really
00:51:01.420
felt that your college made you stop believing in god oh without a doubt as soon as i stepped on campus i
00:51:06.620
think i was turned away from god there is no room for god in the classroom it just wow yeah so we got
00:51:12.780
two minutes before we have to go to break and i i sort of want to tease the story about the the
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deprogrammer because it's it's so wild you made the international headlines but when the story first
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broke and funnily enough we used to be neighbors i didn't know her and then i'm watching tucker and
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i'm like i feel like i've seen her somewhere and then i found out we were neighbors so speaking of god
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and he works in mysterious ways and now we're here on war room but tease us just a little bit with
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the ridiculousness of what your mom had to do and pay to hire a deprogrammer to get you back
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on track and now sitting in this war room seat well if it's god that didn't put us together i don't
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know what is um i after i graduated i had a period of time where i did not speak to my family because
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i was so radical and in that time my mom was frantic okay i'm her only child keep in mind not speaking
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to her so she called so many people she consulted so many culture programmers because she knew it's
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like i'd been activated you know i came home on vacation and i was a social justice warrior i was
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completely different than i had ever been and she knew that she knew that something had changed in me
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it wasn't like you know oh i'd always kind of been this one way and then i leaned into it no i was i was
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really changed she called so many people she consulted them i never spoke to anyone she's actually the
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one that spoke to all the programmers and they gave her a vast range of advice so when the biden
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regime tells you that it's not parents it's the federal government that raises your children
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annabella rockwell is a glowing and glaring example of why that is not the case the department of
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education which you should definitely be abolished you are a living breathing example of not only why
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you should be abolished but why teachers do not have the final say in the formation of children's
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minds it's the parents and that's why the parental rights movement is so important you know what
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southern poverty law center you can call moms for america moms for liberty domestic terrorists take
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groups they're not going to stop backing down mo if you want to take us out you're right natalie
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