On this episode of The War Room, host STEPHEN K. VAN NOVAN ( ) is joined by Darren J. Beattie ( ) to discuss the latest DOJ indictments of Donald J. Trump and others.
00:01:43.000We'll be getting in to a lot more topics with a lot more substance and meaning to your life.
00:01:49.000Speaking of which, someone who is always covering the news from, I would argue, the very right viewpoint is none other than Dr. Darren J. Beattie, one of my personal favorites and a fellow alum of the University of Chicago.
00:02:04.000Darren, before we get into what is coming in, as I'm sure you would say white hot on Revolver.News, I'd love to just get your thoughts on the indictment, the third one, of Donald J. Trump.
00:02:28.000It is, as Trump stated, election interference.
00:02:32.000It is banana boat republic territory in the sense that you have the current leading official, the current president, basically using his weaponized Justice Department to criminalize his—the frontrunner opposition, his expected opposition in the forthcoming election.
00:02:54.000When the first indictment came out, Revolver did a piece called Banana Republic.
00:03:01.000Biden's America just joined seven other, if I can say that, nations by arresting an opposition leader.
00:03:08.000And we go through the territory and basically the company that we've descended to by means of Biden's corrupt practices.
00:03:18.000And I guess he—you know, his corruption is exposed to the world recently with all the petty bribery and things, so I guess he feels like he can go full banana boat.
00:03:27.000But we're joining the likes of Tunisia—no offense to Tunisia, but they probably have a better leader than Biden, frankly, at the moment—Nicaragua, Georgia, Uganda.
00:03:41.000And this is the territory we're in when we start to play games with the politically weaponized Justice Department to go after Trump.
00:03:50.000So that's sort of the main contextual aspect of it.
00:03:53.000But then there's also the substance of this particular indictment.
00:03:57.000It's very much in my wheelhouse because it's basically the January 6th indictment.
00:04:03.000And in fact, it was an indictment that was concocted effectively in the January 6th committee.
00:04:10.000It's basically a copy and paste job of the January 6th committee report into the criminal indictment from the DOJ, reinforcing long-held speculation that was really substantiated by fact that the J6 committee and the DOJ were basically working hand in hand.
00:04:30.000And Benny Thompson, the corrupt and borderline illiterate former chair of the January 6th committee, took to Twitter for a victory lap and basically took credit as the January 6th committee chair for the indictment.
00:04:48.000Again, Revolver News has been very, very deep into this issue from the very beginning.
00:04:53.000And we have one really interesting piece chronicling the sort of provenance of the J6 committee theory.
00:05:00.000Because Benny Thompson, as I mentioned, very low IQ, I doubt he can even read like something on a higher level than goosebumps, frankly.
00:05:09.000So he's not concocting any indictment or legal lawfare strategy of his own.
00:05:16.000We did a very detailed genealogy of these cases at Revolver, and we showed that the January 6th committee thesis used to be Benny Thompson's thesis.
00:05:28.000In his own private capacity, he sued Trump and others for January 6th.
00:05:33.000And that lawsuit basically emerged from the legal work of none other than an individual that Revolver made famous years ago for other machinations.
00:05:44.000This is a man called Norm Eisen, who is a color revolution professional and one of the key lawfare hatchet men, Obama's former ethics czar, if you can believe it.
00:05:56.000So this stuff all gets into basically the latest version of impeachment, or in this case, the latest version of election interference.
00:06:05.000It goes back a long way. It traces back to some of the most malicious and corrupt operatives deep within the bowels of the nexus between the Democrat Party and the national security establishment, of which Benny Thompson is effectively a low IQ figurehead.
00:06:24.000So there's so much going on here with that. And then lastly, because again, we could go all night with this, there's another troubling component of the indictment, which is basically you could say they're trying to criminalize Trump's so-called election denial.
00:06:44.000That's basically what it is. They're not using that exact language. But when you read the indictment, effectively what they're saying is by, quote unquote, denying the election or really raising absolutely common sense, ironclad questions pertaining to the integrity of the election.
00:07:02.800By raising those questions, Trump creates an atmosphere of distrust that contextually redounds to some kind of defrauding or conspiracy against the American people to overturn the legitimate results of 2020.
00:07:20.000That is, in effect, that's the essence, or to appropriate a legal term, that is the kind of the emanations of the penumbras of this indictment are basically, we are criminalizing so-called election denial.
00:07:37.100And more generally, it's about codifying the disinformation censorship predicate into law, criminalizing disinformation, and that gets into a final disturbing aspect of this indictment before I'll stop, and that is this.
00:07:52.920One of the several charges in the indictment is something called conspiracy against rights.
00:08:00.560That is the same charge innovatively, ridiculously, maliciously leveled against an individual called Doug Mackey, otherwise known as Ricky Vaughn, who was prosecuted by the Biden DOJ for memes mocking Hillary Clinton.
00:08:21.440And we've discussed this on Wargroom fairly extensively, the implications legally and otherwise.
00:08:29.840So it's really interesting how you have this charge, which is used for the first time in this context against this Twitter user who mocked Hillary, and now they're upping the stakes by several orders of magnitude and testing the same legal theory against the former president of the United States for calling into question the legitimacy of the election.
00:08:51.440So it's remarkable territory, it's dark territory, it's banana boat republic territory, but it's par for the course for Biden and really the corrupt elements running our current regime.
00:09:05.120If I recall, you just like us here in the war room, we're in paradoxically support of a sort of full-blown January 6th commission because we wanted to actually get to the bottom of what happened, right?
00:09:17.640Use the evidence to prove that it really was, for lack of a better term, a Fed's direction, I believe you coined that.
00:09:23.940And for people who are watching the show this morning, that was sort of the line that Steve, along with Cash and Mike Davis were taking, in other words, the establishment has sort of overplayed their hand with their appetite to get Trump.
00:09:34.940Because if they want to have a full adjudication of not only the 2020 election, but more precisely, January 6th, who was involved in instigating it, and they want all of that to be laid out before the American people to see, well, that might just end up biting them.
00:09:51.240Because it could potentially prove, I think, what the thesis and the theory of the case has been, at least here in the war room and, of course, at revolver.news, for a very long time.
00:09:59.960We've got a few minutes before we've got to jump to break, and I'd love to hold you for a little bit if I can.
00:10:03.620But what advice would you give to Trump's defense team, in other words, how to sort of reappropriate this indictment to make it more about exposing the truth behind January 6th, exposing the lies about election integrity from Democrats,
00:10:20.520Democrats, as opposed to just using this as one of the other indictments where it's just going to play into the hands of the left and be another perfect example of, although Benny Thompson might not be engineering it, he's too low IQ to do that, you know, the locker tactics that they like to play with.
00:10:37.480Absolutely. Well, Trump doesn't need to hear this from me. Go on the offensive. Take the offense.
00:10:42.440Because, look, the regime is so sensitive to people who don't accept their false narrative on January 6th.
00:10:50.240That's why they pulled all the stops, to destroy me, to destroy Revolver, and to destroy the Fed's direction narrative.
00:10:56.960They're getting one of their key hatchet men, David Brock, an employee of David Brock, to legally represent Epps, to go on an intimidation campaign, to threaten lawsuits against anyone who will talk about Epps.
00:11:09.500And think about this. Epps hasn't even been charged. Let's go look at the compilation video of what Epps was involved in and think Epps hasn't been charged, and now they're charging Trump.
00:11:19.520That just shows you what a sham this is. Look at the pipe bomb issue and what a sham that is.
00:11:24.980And yet the regime is doing everything it can to shut up any conversation about Epps.
00:11:30.340And as we recently learned from the former public face of the pipe bomb investigation, which Revolver has been all over from the very beginning,
00:11:39.380admitted that they did a geofencing test on the so-called pipe bomber,
00:11:45.780and the telecom company came back and said, for this specific request, the data's been corrupted.
00:11:50.780So there are very high-level people, very high-level entities, doing everything they can to prevent the full truth of the Fed's direction from coming out.
00:12:01.600We have their weak spots. Their weak spots are Ray Epps and the pipe bomb.
00:12:08.120And we're so close on both of those, and the regime is squirming.
00:12:12.620They're terrified. They're doing everything they can to prevent the full truth,
00:12:16.320because we see in this latest indictment the incredibly high stakes involved in their false Fed's direction narrative.
00:12:26.980And Trump, to his great credit, who loves Revolver and reads Revolver,
00:12:30.720in my interview with him, he demonstrated very, very extensive knowledge on the Fed's direction thesis about Ray Epps and other people.
00:12:39.540And to my knowledge, he's the only candidate, and he's, I mean, to even imply that the others are candidates in any meaningful sense is ridiculous,
00:12:49.540But he's the only candidate who has the guts and the vision to call out the Fed's direction for what it is.
00:12:57.380And so he has all the ammunition he needs. He has all the information he needs.
00:13:02.240He has the right spirit. He needs to take the offense on this.
00:13:07.080We got about two minutes before we got to cut to break.
00:13:10.460So I'm just curious, you know, there's been a lot of, I think, back and forth about the judge that's been appointed to oversee this case.
00:13:17.760Her interesting track record in terms of sentencing January 6th defendants.
00:13:23.200She really seems to be sort of a henchman for the administrative state, specifically in the legal sphere.
00:13:30.600Like I said, we've got about a minute. I'm just curious, your thoughts on the appointment of her to oversee this case.
00:13:36.620Well, it just shows what a farce it is.
00:13:38.480And really, like she is, my understanding is, she's the only judge that actually was even harsher on the January 6th defendants than the government even recommended.
00:13:49.280She's the only one who said, oh, the corrupt DOJ who's railroading all of these poor January 6th defendants, they're not harsh enough.
00:13:58.480So it's a remarkable selection in that case.
00:14:02.500And I'm hoping that basically this whole thing will be tossed out and dismissed one way or another before it even gets to trial, just based on how ridiculous it is.
00:14:20.320And it's making a mockery out of our country.
00:14:23.220Darren, hang with us through the break.
00:14:26.040We've got Monica Crowley, Dr. Naomi Wolf joining us later in the show.
00:14:30.320You know, they always say it's a republic.
00:14:32.760If you can keep it, well, I think they mean keep it from people like Judge Khan, people like the deep state, like Jack Smith, who are trying to come after Donald Trump.
00:14:44.160And frankly, at the end of the day, are really just trying to come after you and your right to think and say and do whatever you want, as we have our God-given rights and are able to do.
00:14:56.320We'll be right back at 90 Second Break.
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00:16:31.660Don't worry, Steve will be back, I believe, for the 6 p.m. hour.
00:16:35.460But in the meantime, I know Darren J. Beattie has some more remarks and commentary on what in the heck is going on in Murdoch's world, specifically at the Wall Street Journal.
00:16:44.360But I just have to say, real quick, before we get there, one of the stories I broke, I think it was a few months ago, people may recall Trump was also being sued civilly for January 6th.
00:16:54.080And the firm representing our mutual favorite, Darren Benny Thompson, and some of his colleagues was Cohen Milstein.
00:17:00.720And just a few months ago, believe it or not, one of their top partners was actually indicted by the DOJ for possessing thousands of images of child porn, and I believe trying to engage in, obviously, illegal sexual activity with a minor.
00:17:16.360So no conspiracies, no coincidences, but I thought I would just put that out there.
00:17:20.660But Darren, before we let you go, I know you've got to run.
00:17:24.000There's a great new piece of Revolver talking about the further descent into woke hell.
00:17:29.580That may be too euphemistic a term that we're seeing going on in all these Murdoch-owned news outlets.
00:17:34.860Why don't you let the audience know what exactly is going on?
00:17:40.820As we all know, all these things fit together.
00:17:42.880Tucker was booted in large part because he dared to amplify Revolver's coverage on January 6th and other things.
00:17:51.320And, you know, I think Fox will actually settle on Ray Epps' lawsuit, partly in order to reinforce their position that Tucker was a liability for them.
00:18:03.500But Fox News is basically Murdoch's going to do everything he can to make sure Trump is not a factor in 2024.
00:18:12.280It doesn't look like he's going to be very successful.
00:18:15.380But at the same time, the larger trajectory of not only Fox, but the Murdoch Empire seems to be going down the toilet in many different respects.
00:18:23.700And we have a latest piece, which is very interesting, that sort of identifies a little-known factor and gives us a sense of the direction where Fox might be heading.
00:18:34.500And, you know, they've done crazy stuff, like they sign on to the transgender agenda.
00:18:38.840I think they have, like, transgender bathrooms and stuff like that at Fox.
00:18:44.600But one thing, there was a recent report in the Wall Street Journal that I think really telegraphs the increasing influence of Murdoch's son, James, who is the kind of rabid liberal influence here.
00:18:58.700And it was a piece sort of about environmentalism that had to do with the lead cables and phone companies and stuff like that.
00:19:05.660But the point is, is that basically the report was orchestrated by a far-left Green New Deal-type organization called the Environmental Defense Fund.
00:19:16.500Now, why is it important beyond being another ridiculous sort of radical left environmental thing?
00:19:21.660And keep in mind, all these people trashed Tucker, no pun intended, for daring to point out that illegal immigrants litter and contributed to dirt in the country.
00:19:32.680Like, you're not allowed to be an environmentalist like that.
00:19:35.160You're only allowed to be an environmentalist in this Green New Deal sense of giving subsidies to corrupt crony companies like this Environmental Defense Fund does.
00:19:45.520So, but why is this important beyond that?
00:19:48.180Well, it turns out that James Murdoch and his wife are contributors to this very organization on the basis of whose false report you see this recent piece in the Wall Street Journal.
00:20:02.560Now, if this is a trend, it's very troubling because it's not just the corrupt EDF, Environmental Defense Fund, that they're funding.
00:20:19.360Now, it's one thing if it's just, you know, liberal trying to ingratiate himself at cocktail parties by donating to these malicious organizations.
00:20:27.440But it's quite another when we have an established pattern of not only donating to these organizations, but having these organizations then dictating reporting in Murdoch-owned entities.
00:20:41.080And so I think that signals a troubling trend, not only for these left-wing organizations dictating reporting, but unfortunately, perhaps for the increasing influence of James Murdoch, who is, I don't know what his counterpart would be in succession.
00:20:59.160Maybe the kind of the oldest fail son, but it's not good.
00:21:12.580So we need to all do what we can to make our independent media more robust, liberate the American people from the cattle slop machine that is Fox News, and make sure people are getting plugged into outlets like War Room, like Revolver, for brave and cutting-edge reporting from the likes of Natalie Winters.
00:21:37.900And, of course, yours truly, Darren Beatty.
00:21:40.960Well, I think I would lose my job, per Steve, if I didn't make the point that, did you know that Murdochs are foreigners?
00:21:47.340Darren, thank you so much for joining us.
00:21:50.160If people want to follow you, where can they go?
00:21:53.540Revolver.news, as always, you can read this report on Murdochs.
00:22:20.440I think we have the one and only Monica Crowley, who is, of course, a dear friend of mine and a dear friend of the show.
00:22:28.580She was the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Donald J. Trump, and I'm sure she knows that they are coming for her boss, just like they've come for you, just like they've come for Steve, just like they've come for the War Room Posse.
00:22:40.560You have a wonderful new op-ed, I have to say.
00:22:43.420I usually don't read op-eds, but I always read yours in Newsweek about Trump and the indictment.
00:22:49.040If you want to start, I'll definitely hold you through the break, but walk us through a little bit and, of course, just your thoughts on the third indictment.
00:22:58.300It's always great to be with you and here on War Room.
00:23:01.320It's always just a fantastic time, so thank you for having me.
00:23:05.080Jan, thank you for putting up my op-ed there in Newsweek.
00:23:08.480I actually got a call earlier today as I was getting on a bus to write the article, so I literally wrote it on my phone and edited it on my phone.
00:23:19.460But what I wanted to really convey here is the deeper message about what not just this latest indictment is all about, but what all of these indictments of Donald Trump are really all about.
00:23:30.960And Trump himself has pointed out that these indictments are not simply of him, but they are of all of us.
00:23:39.380They're indictments of the Constitution.
00:23:41.620They're indictments of the rule of law.
00:23:43.440They're certainly indictments of the America First movement.
00:23:46.980And there's one critical point here, Natalie, that's a much bigger point that I make all the time on my podcast, but it bears repeating,
00:23:53.940which is there are more of us than there are of them, and while the left and the uni party and the propaganda press and the permanent administrative state and the deep state,
00:24:06.980while they control all of the levers of power now in this country and they're incredibly powerful, they're abusing that power to destroy the country,
00:24:15.540there are still more of us in terms of numbers than there are of them, and we shouldn't lose sight of that.
00:24:23.540And if you take a step back in the history of what we have seen, at least over the last several decades,
00:24:29.640what we have seen is that every single time we, the great silent majority, the deplorables, the America First crowd here in the United States,
00:24:40.760every time we begin to feel our power in numbers, every time we begin to organically come together to push back against these abuses of power,
00:24:53.300to push back against the uni party and the deep state and the propaganda press and so on,
00:24:59.760every single time the left then organizes to push back on us in order to disperse us so that we won't feel our own power
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00:53:03.740Dr. Wolf, thank you so much for joining me.
00:53:07.660And I know the War Room Posse thanks you, too.
00:53:10.760Even though you don't always bring us the happiest stories, you leave us probably scared.
00:53:15.340I guess it's better to be informed and not knowing what their ultimate plan and endgame is.
00:53:20.880War Room Posse, thank you for hanging with me.
00:53:22.960Steve will be back at 6 p.m. and, of course, on at 10 a.m.
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