Episode 3245： Supreme Court Hears J6 Case; House Opens Ben Impeachment Inquiry
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Today, the Supreme Court will hear an appeal by a January 6th defendant, Joseph Fisher, who has been charged with conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding and conspiracy to corrupt, corruptly, obstruct, and obstruct an official congressional proceeding.
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highest court that could have major implications, the unprecedented and historic criminal prosecution
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of Donald Trump. The justice is announcing today that they will hear an appeal by a January 6th
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defendant. His name is Joseph Fisher. He has been indicted on seven charges related to the
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insurrection, including obstruction of an official proceeding, which is also, as you know, a charge
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brought by special counsel Jack Smith against Donald Trump. Now, Fisher is seeking to dismiss
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that count, the central question before the Supreme Court, according to the New York Times,
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quote, can the government charge defendants in those cases under a federal law that makes it a
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crime to corrupt corruptly obstruct an official congressional proceeding? And here's how the
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Times lays out the stakes of this move by the Supreme Court today, quote, the decision to hear
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the case will complicate and perhaps delay the start of Mr. Trump's trial now scheduled to take
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place in Washington in March. The Supreme Court's ultimate ruling, which may not arrive until June,
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will likely address the viability of two of the main counts against Mr. Trump and could severely
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limit efforts by the special counsel Jack Smith to hold the former president accountable for the
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violence that his supporters committed at the Capitol. Whatever the justices decide could also
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have a major impact on what has become the largest investigation in DOJ history. Prosecutors have
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also charged more than 300 defendants with obstruction of an official proceeding. Some of them have already
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been convicted. The Supreme Court's decision today, just one of many factors that could end the case.
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I'll add something here because, you know, one of the things about this statute, and I hadn't focused
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on Fisher's cert petition until today, one of the things people have been focused on about this
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statute is the meaning of the word corruptly. But that's not what Fisher's appeal is about, as Tim just
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explained. His appeal is about whether or not it's lawful to charge him with otherwise obstructing or
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impeding the congressional proceeding on January 6th because it's not tethered to documents.
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And here's where it's sort of, pardon the expression, kind of stinks to be a textualist,
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right? We've seen from the conservative movement that what should matter when we're looking at the
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meaning of the statute is the plain meaning of the statute. But here, the plain meaning is pretty
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clear. Aside from this mutilating or concealing a record, they are prohibiting otherwise obstructing a
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proceeding. What did these people do? They blocked doors. They prevented members of Congress in both
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chambers from safely voting on January 6th. I can't think of any clearer meaning of obstructing a
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proceeding than the one that applies to these cases. Whether that applies to Donald Trump might
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be a little bit different, but at least it should apply to the conspiracy count to obstruct a proceeding
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these
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people. You've just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big
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line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself,
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what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be
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saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Wednesday, 13 December, the year of our Lord, 2023. A historic day.
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Earlier, we had clips cut from the debate over the impeachment inquiry. The vote's going to start
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at 530. We're going to try to get everything in as much as we can so we can go to the floor for the
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vote, at least scheduled for 530. We're also going to go to Coralville, Iowa. President Trump is having
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a caucus event. Our own Ben Burkham's there. We'll go there in a minute. But I've got to start in this
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blockbuster news. Julie Kelly is going to join us a minute. I got Mike Davis for a few minutes now.
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Mike, I'm not a lawyer. Help me out here. The thing the other day with Jack Smith going right to the
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Supreme Court and then today, this in appeals, it just strikes me that the prosecution of Trump is
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trying to go so fast. There's so many things about all of this that are quite uncertain and people
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trying to feel their way through it. Walk me through that. Is this another example? Because
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you see there, they're petrified. They're already getting vicious on MSNBC about, oh my gosh, this
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might slow it down to pass the election. Can you make this make sense for us?
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Yeah. President Biden's railroading of President Trump is starting to derail.
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And it's for the reasons we have been discussing for 16 months. It is not a crime to object to a
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presidential election. It's allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Democrats would be in jail for
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objecting to Republican wins in 1968, 2000, 2004, and 2016 if it were a crime. Al Gore, Hillary Clinton,
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and John Kerry would be in jail if it were a crime. It's not a crime to twist arms politically. And
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there are several issues that need to be resolved. First of all, they're trying to jam through this
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trial to have this trial start on March 4th and have President Trump sit in a courtroom for six
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or seven months before the presidential election instead of being on the campaign trail and then
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put President Trump in prison for the rest of his life after the election. And Judge Tanya Shutkin,
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this Obama judge, was going along with this deranged Biden special counsel Jack Smith to railroad
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President Trump. And President Trump filed a motion to dismiss these indictments on two different
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grounds. Number one is presidential immunity. What the president did in his official capacity or
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the outer perimeter under Supreme Court case law of his official capacity is covered by presidential
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immunity. You cannot charge people civilly or criminally, government officials civilly or criminally
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when they have government immunity. That's been established with Congress, with the speech or debate
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clause. That's been established with judicial immunity. And the civil part of that has been
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established for the president of the United States. But the criminal part has not yet been established
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because these are the first indictments ever of a president of the United States brought by Jack
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Smith and Alvin Bragg and Fannie Willis down in Georgia. This is unprecedented. And the fact that
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Jack Smith is trying to railroad this through, when they have like 13 million pages of documents,
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they have several hundred witnesses, there's no chance this can go to trial on March 4th anyway,
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because of the discovery in this case. But separate from that, this case can't go forward
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until the Supreme Court ultimately decides presidential immunity. Now, what Jack Smith is trying to do is
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skip the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals and see he's seeking cert before judgment by the D.C. Circuit,
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which is an extremely rare thing to seek. And I hope the Supreme Court does not go along with this,
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because this is a novel issue, whether the president of the United States enjoys immunity
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from criminal prosecution like judges do and like Congress does. That should be resolved first by the
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D.C. Circuit, the three-judge panel, through the regular process. And then the Supreme Court can take
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that if they want to take it. They have the discretion to take it or not to take it. But if you rush and get
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this wrong, this has major implications for all presidents of the United States. For example,
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does that mean that President Obama can be charged criminally by the Trump 47 Justice Department
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for his extrajudicial murder of a 16-year-old American citizen? Remember, he ordered a drone
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strike and killed a 16-year-old American citizen abroad. Can he be charged for murder now? Does he
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not enjoy presidential immunity? Is that the game the Democrats now want to play?
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What about this issue today on J6? I know you only got a couple of minutes, but this was another
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thing coming in. And they're saying, hey, this could slow it down to at least this appeal wouldn't be
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known till June. And they're losing their minds right now. What happened with the Jack Smith
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situation on Monday or Tuesday? Now this, because they see the March 4th date slipping away from them.
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What happened today? Well, I mean, first of all, it's going to slip away because Judge Tanya Shuck
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issued a stay of the criminal proceeding. She finally relented because she saw the writing on
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the wall that you cannot move forward with a criminal case or a civil case until the issue of
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government immunity is resolved, whether sovereign immunity, whether it's presidential immunity or
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speech or debate clause for Congress or judicial immunity, that halts the proceedings. And we've been
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talking about this for a long time and people laughed at me for saying this, but of course I'm
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right. And as Judge Tanya Shuckin just ordered, they have to resolve these issues. This is so much
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bigger than Donald Trump. This is about the presidency, whether you can charge a president
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for doing his official duties. He ordered, President Trump ordered his vice president not to certify
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the election. You can't do that as a private citizen. You can only do that as the president of the
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United States, right? So that's the issue of presidential immunity. And also on these January
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6th cases, and Julie Kelly's going to go into this because she's been on this since day one,
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they are using a bogus interpretation of a federal criminal statute related to financial crimes to go
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after Trump and to go after Trump's supporters on January 6th, to go after his top aides like you
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and Peter Navarro. It is a bogus theory, right? And so the Supreme Court will fix this. And what's the
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rush with Jack Smith? They waited 30 months to bring these criminal charges, right? Why do they
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need to get these resolved before the presidential election? Other than the fact that this is lawfare,
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political lawfare by Democrats, and this is election interference. And that's exactly what we've been
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saying from day one. There's no rush to get President Trump before the election other than
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election interference. They want to convict President Trump before the election because they see
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the polling that President Trump is beating Biden like a drum on November 5th, 2024. And the one
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thing the polling shows that changes that is a criminal conviction of Trump.
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Mike, where do people go? You've been all over this, both the social media and you're in Article 3,
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Yeah, the House of Cards has fallen apart for the Democrat prosecutors and judges, and it's
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falling apart fast. Article3project.org, Article3project.org. You can donate there at
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Article3project, at Article3project, on Getter, Twitter, Truth. And my personal is at
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M-R-D-D-M-I-A. M-R-D-D-M-I-A. Thank you, Steve.
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Mike Davis, thank you. Once again, a cold shot. This entire lawfare thing looks like it's come
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unwound. Do I have, if I don't, Julie, I'm going to go to Coralville. Okay, let's go to Coralville.
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We've got a lot to go through. We're going to have a vote. Historic, oh, by the way,
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a historic vote's about to take place in 20 minutes. They're going to vote on an impeachment
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inquiry. If we can pull some clips for that, maybe at the bottom of the hour to get them
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in as they get ready to vote. I want to hear that. A heated debate, let's say, to earlier
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today at about noon for an hour. They were at each other's throats. Of course, the Carnival
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Act of Hunter Biden didn't help. Let's go to Coralville.
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Coralville, Iowa, for a caucus event, kind of a training event. Our own Ben Berquam is
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Steve, this is what's amazing. I was actually, I was sitting here thinking about what I've
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seen over these last several days in Chicago, now coming here, going from the border, what's
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happening with January 6th, the difference between the rule of law with Hunter Biden and
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President Trump, Joe Biden, President Trump. And what do you have going on right now?
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This is death by a million cuts in our country. We are bleeding out in all of these places
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on the border, whether that's lawfare going against President Trump, the fact that January
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Sixers are still in prison. But what's amazing, what's also happening right here, instead of
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blood coming out at each one of these cuts, it's opening a wound for light to shine through.
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And we are seeing, it used to be a remnant. You and I were just talking about this. Your
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word was perfect. It's a convergence. We are seeing this. What I saw in Chicago and what
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I'm seeing here, the line outside, it's a small venue. There's only a couple thousand
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people that can fit. It's in the 20s, 30s degrees. It's cold outside. But we have a line
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wrapped around the building here to come and see President Trump, because the people here
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understand what's happening. The people here understand the stakes for this country. And
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now you have the black inner city converging, the Hispanic community converging, God's people
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converging, conservatives, libertarians, godly, all of these people coming together and saying,
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wait a second, it's time for our light to shine. And what's interesting about all of this,
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I kept thinking about this too. The left, they seem to be blind to what's happening. They seem
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to be blind to their policies on the border, the impact and the fact that they're losing people.
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And it's absolutely biblical. The Bible talks about them having scales over their eyes.
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That is what they have. They cannot see what they have caused. They cannot see why people are leaving
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them. And there is something massive, amazing happening right now. So I just want to encourage
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people out there. It's bad. It's dark. The border's terrible. We're being invaded. Chicago sucks right now.
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But there is something amazing happening through all of this. I just want to encourage you.
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It is getting better. The fight is just beginning. Every single person that shines that light
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needs to step up right now. But it's amazing, Steve. I got to tell you, it's an honor to be
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Ben, and you're doing a fantastic job. We're going to have more about Chicago in the next
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couple of days that we talk it through. He's at a training event. These are called caucus
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events. President Trump will address the caucus thing. They've got a couple of thousand people
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there. He'll be up at 730 Eastern Standard Time. Real America's Voice will cover it. Ben,
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if you can hang on. We're going to come back to you at the bottom of the hour. A historic vote to
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officially commence an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden. And I've been told by people in high
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places that if they vote for this inquiry, they know they got the goods. This will lead to the
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impeachment of Joe Biden. That's the other day you saw that circus out front with Hunter Biden.
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OK, we're going to take a break. There's a lot we got to get into in this hour.
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Top of the next hour, Natalie Winters is going to take it in, covering the impeachment vote,
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but also talk about the politics and the political impact of Taylor Swift. Very important,
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because I think this is going to be one of the major stories, political stories of 2024.
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We're going to return with the Julie Kelly. She's going to walk us through the situation on J6
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Action. By the nation's highest court that could have major implications, the unprecedented and
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historic criminal prosecution of Donald Trump. The justice is announcing today that they will
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hear an appeal by a January 6th defendant. His name is Joseph Fisher. He has been indicted on seven
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charges related to the insurrection, including obstruction of an official proceeding, which is
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also, as you know, a charge brought by special counsel Jack Smith against Donald Trump. Now,
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Fisher is seeking to dismiss that count, the central question before the Supreme Court. According to
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Can the government charge defendants in those cases under a federal law that makes it a crime to
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corrupt corruptly obstruct an official congressional proceeding? And here's how the Times lays out
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the stakes of this move by the Supreme Court today. Quote,
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The decision to hear the case will complicate and perhaps delay the start of Mr. Trump's trial,
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now scheduled to take place in Washington in March. The Supreme Court's ultimate ruling,
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which may not arrive until June, will likely address the viability of two of the main counts against
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Mr. Trump and could severely limit efforts by the special counsel Jack Smith.
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Julie, it was, it was, and you've said, you and Davis have said the March 4th thing is ridiculous.
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It will take years to get this to trial. You saw Jack Smith try this, throw the long ball. And I knew
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it was a Hail Mary because you could see kind of the long faces on MSNBC. But today blockbusters,
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two blockbusters, right? Julie Kelly's having a good day. Two blockbusters. I think,
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I think you tweeted that karma's a bitch or something. It was, it wasn't the normal ladylike
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Julie Kelly. Tell us why today was such a big, what's going on? Two blockbuster decisions. Tell us
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what they are. Right. So, I mean, basically, essentially for two reasons, the March 4th trial
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date is gone. Number one is the Supreme Court agreeing this morning to take up this 1512C2
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count. This is the felony charge that DOJ has weaponized, bastardized, flagrantly misinterpreted
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the language and applied this to more than 320 January 6th defendants. It also represents half
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of Jack Smith's four count indictment against Donald Trump. He charged him not only with the 1512C2
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obstruction of an official, official proceeding, but also conspiracy to commit obstruction of an
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official proceeding. So that really threw a big monkey wrench into Jack Smith's plans. Today,
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we were sort of waiting for that to happen on Monday. The Supreme Court announced it today.
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Look, there is no argument that the DOJ has misinterpreted that statute intentionally,
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and they finally are going to get caught for doing so. Not only DOJ, Steve, 15 district court judges in
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Washington who knew that this statute was being misapplied, was being used against how it was
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originally intended to be, which this is the post-Enron Arthur Anderson scandal that dealt with
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tampering or destruction of evidence. Fifteen judges have allowed this. Only one, Carl Nichols,
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a Trump appointee, dismissed this count against three defendants. The delicious irony here,
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Steve, is that the DOJ is the one who appealed Judge Nichols' dismissal of these counts. That's
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what finally got it to SCOTUS. So let's just enjoy that as well. The DOJ, in their arrogance,
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instead of letting three defendants off the hook on this count, appealed Judge Nichols,
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and that's how it got to the Supreme Court. So not only is that a real problem for Jack Smith,
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but then compounded by Judge Chutkin today finally admitting that the automatic appeal based on
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immunity claims, and this is Donald Trump appealing Judge Chutkin's ruling that presidential immunity
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does not apply to criminal prosecution, that Donald Trump is indeed subject to criminal prosecution,
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automatically all the pretrial deadlines are stayed, as that makes its way through the appellate
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process, which is why Jack Smith took the extraordinary step, as he called it this week,
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seeking to bypass the appellate court and have the Supreme Court rule on this presidential immunity
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issue right away. Either way, this is a disastrous day for special counsel Jack Smith and Judge Chutkin,
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which means it is a great day for everyone else, even if it lasts a day. It is a great day for the
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country, certainly for Donald Trump, but more importantly, the 300-plus January 6th defendants
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who have had their lives destroyed by being unfairly charged and convicted of this felony count,
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including Matthew Perna, who committed suicide after pleading guilty to the obstruction charge
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and then found out that the DOJ was going to seek years in prison. The human wreckage in the wake
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of what this DOJ has done with this obstruction count. It will take years to calculate, but this
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will be, when the Supreme Court overturns how DOJ has used it, the most humiliating defeat and abuse
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of power that this DOJ has ever experienced in its history.
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They had to, just as a technical matter, they had to appeal Nichols because that's hanging out there
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with one of the trial judges said, so weren't they, I know it's ironic, but they were kind of forced to
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do that, right? They had to go appeal that to prove that everything else they had done with this charge
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was correct. Am I wrong there? They probably could have. That's a good point, that if they would have
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left it, then other courts would have pointed to Judge Nichols and not the appeal. You're correct.
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They went back to Judge Nichols twice asking him to uphold this count. So let's not overlook him as a
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hero here because all of his colleagues refused to dismiss this count. So you're right. He probably,
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DOJ probably had no choice but to pursue this. But the fact that it is there on an appeal from DOJ
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and not another defendant. Now, of course, there are other defendants who have been waiting to appeal
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this count and conviction. But look, this is colliding with Jack Smith's trial calendar,
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which is another reason why, what's his next move now?
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But that's what I want to pull the camera back for people that are not lawyers who don't follow
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this as closely. This issue of lawfare, and you've said this from the beginning and David said at this
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beginning, the rush, the fanatical rush to get Trump. And every night on MSNBC, because we have to,
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we cover these, you know, we follow these networks, CNN, BBC, MSNBC, just the glee in their eye,
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Weissman and these guys every night foamed up about getting Trump. Monday's decision by Jack
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Smith is very much tied to, because it's all about, they got to get that March 4th deadline,
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the date. And every, even defense lawyer I know there are Democrats have told me, this is ridiculous.
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You keep saying the 13 million pages of discovery. It's just, you can't, this thing would normally
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be a year or two, a year or two off if he was a normal criminal defendant. Is this the week we
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saw this happening that the reality set in that they're not going to be able to have a rush to
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put Trump in prison before the election? It had to break at some point, Steve, because the trial
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calendar was so unrealistic. And keep in mind, Judge Chutkin is the one who set the seven month
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window between indictment and trial. That is about half the time of a normal January 6th case. You
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have defendants who languished for two years waiting for their trials, waiting for their case to go to
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trial. She is the one who pushed this. Then on top of that, Steve, she waited two months before she
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issued her order related to the motion to dismiss on presidential immunity. They filed, Trump's team
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filed that on October 5th. She didn't rule until December 1st. So she is the one responsible,
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basically eviscerated one third of her own trial schedule. And now here we are, the holidays pending,
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et cetera. All of these trial dates now right in front of her and in front of both sides that are now
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going to, that are now vacated. So even if this matter, let's say we wave a magic wand,
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the Supreme court comes down or the DC appellate court comes down even in the next month and says,
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okay, yes, Donald Trump has to stand trial. Presidential immunity does not apply here.
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All of these dates that have been set have to be reset. So even if it's another month that pulls that
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into mid April, maybe, are they still going to go to trial then? There are other issues that have to
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be litigated as well. Then you've got in the background, the classified documents trial.
00:25:28.020
So that was supposed to go to trial on May 20th. Judge Aileen Cannon, who I said today on Twitter,
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looks like a genius because she is far smarter and tougher than Judge Chutkin.
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In November, in the November hearing status hearing, she confronted Jack Smith's team,
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his lead prosecutor, Jay Bratt. And she said, you are the ones responsible for bringing two criminal
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indictments against the same defendant in two different venues in less than two months. So
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he still has due process rights. So she suspended all of the pretrial deadlines and said, come back
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on March 1st and let me know what's going on in DC trial. And then we'll see if the May 20th trial date
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is tenable. So she has got to be giggling in her Fort Pierce courthouse chambers today because she was
00:26:14.980
absolutely right. This March 4th trial date was not tenable. Even if it was, it was going to be a
00:26:20.680
lengthier trial than Jack Smith anticipated. Four to six weeks he thought this would be wrapped up.
00:26:25.800
So this is all this magical thinking that Jack Smith has had because, of course, he's had the
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rubber stamp of Judge Chutkin the entire time. But reality and karma caught up with both of them
00:26:36.640
today. And this March 4th trial date, there's no way and watch MSNBC. I want to see how Andrew
00:26:42.200
Weissman spends this tonight. This should be interesting.
00:26:47.540
Julie, how do people, we're going to try to get you on tomorrow too, because I want to break this
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down even more in the morning, because I don't see how, if the court's going to come back in June
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on one and we don't know about this appeals, I don't see how they're going to get these things
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going before election day. And that means today's historic day. They voted to begin the Biden
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impeachment inquiry. Hunter gave a bozo clown show, five-minute speech, and then ran away from
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the mic. And now this. Remember, in this fight to save your country, the 13th of December in the
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year of our Lord, 2023, will be an inflection point. Julie Kelly, how do we get to you on your
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sub stack, and how do we get to you on social media?
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Well, thanks, Steve, as always, for having me on and covering all my work and bringing this to the
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war room posse. Declassified with Julie Kelly and Twitter, Julie underscore Kelly, too.
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Julie, you've been on this from the beginning for years. The job you're doing is amazing,
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and the called shots you're having, incredible. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it.
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Some days are going to be good days. The 13th of December, the year of our Lord, 2023.
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For the Trump forces, that would be the good guys. That would be you. It's a damn good day.
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Okay, we take a short break. We're going to go back to Iowa. President Trump's on a roll out there,
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about to crush everybody in the Iowa caucus, and they're going to start to vote at 530
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Mike Lindell is going to join us in the next hour. Next hour is going to be pretty explosive.
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Major, major, don't think it's a major political force, this Taylor Swift situation.
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The Swifties, they could deliver a million votes. You're going to have Natalie break it all down for you.
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Ben Burquam, Iowa. So, Ben, as soon as we go get a vote on this historic day, because I've been told you get this inquiry.
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They know they got the goods. We've been telling them that. We gave them the laptop from hell over a year ago, a couple of years ago now.
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They should have it. They can stand this thing up quickly. So, the train's leaving the station today once this vote takes place.
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Ben Burquam, talk to me about Iowa. What's the enthusiasm level there? Is the war room posse there? What's the enthusiasm level?
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People understand that we've got to blow out all the opposition in January to get a role on this primary and get right into general?
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Yeah, there is a clear direction. There is clear objective to focus on the caucus, to win the caucus big, to set the stage for the rest of the country.
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No question about it. But, you know, it's interesting, too, because you see what's going on here.
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And there's also just this disdain for the establishment.
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Ben, hang on for a second. Ben, hang on for a second. We're going to go to the floor and see this. Let's go to the floor right now.
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There's a vote going on on this impeachment inquiry. Let's go to the floor of the House of Representatives.
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Five minutes here, boy. I tell you what, split screen. Let's see that vote.
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So, Ben, continue on, brother. We're just doing a split screen with you.
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We're producing it. We're making this up as we're going along, brother.
00:34:00.000
Tell me about Iowa as we do the split screen on Biden.
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Yeah. Well, it all ties back to this. The fact, you know, the the the the grassroots are so fed up with establishment.
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I mean, we haven't had any wins, really. Besides, we we barely won the House.
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But now they focused all their time on getting rid of Santos rather than getting rid of Mayorkas, rather than getting rid of Biden,
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rather than taking the fight back to the Democrats.
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That's why when you talk to the grassroots, especially here in Iowa and across this country, they are pissed.
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They're like, it's about freaking time. It's about time that the Republicans step up and say we're going to actually fight back to the Democrats the same way the Democrats fight the Republicans.
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What? Tell me about the war and posse. Any posse members out there you've seen today?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. In fact, as soon as I showed up, they said, you know, we're watching all of your footage.
00:34:52.880
We love Steve. We love this is you know, this is the hardcore warriors.
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Now, what's interesting, too, you can see the room starting to fill up.
00:35:00.520
There's probably, I don't know, four, four hundred people in here so far, but there there's more.
00:35:05.060
Their line goes outside around the block. What's interesting is this is like the, you know, the warrior class of the party.
00:35:11.680
This is the base of the base. But what's also interesting is every single one of these rallies or caucus events or whatever you want to call them.
00:35:19.040
There are first timers coming. I met two people last night and the second person I met was a first timer actually from Arkansas,
00:35:25.500
not too far from where I live now and everywhere I go, it's about half and half.
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You got the hardcore fighters that are showing up to these events, but then you have the ones that are are coming, saying this is my first event.
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I've been watching what's happening. I'm sick and tired of sitting on my couch. I'm going to get in the fight.
00:35:39.940
So there is a mobilization, as we were as we were talking about earlier, convergence and a mobilization of people who realize it's now or never.
00:35:47.200
We either save it in 2024 or we lose it forever. So, you know, it's it's it's it's really a race to the finish.
00:35:53.540
It's exponential growth of of treason on the left, of bleeding out on the left and of raising up this remnant army to fight back and save our country on the right.
00:36:04.720
And really, it comes down to who gets across the finish line.
00:36:12.500
Ben, this talk to the reason they're having these events, this caucus, the caucuses are a little complicated.
00:36:18.640
I mean, I was a throwback in New Hampshire is really a throwback to with their primary because in New Hampshire, you have the town hall meetings.
00:36:29.080
And I'm glad, so glad that President Trump demanded that they be the first to because they're a throwback to how America govern themselves.
00:36:36.780
Where you've got to get to know people, you just can't do with TV ads.
00:36:42.900
You're actually training people because the caucus is what in in mid-January.
00:36:51.520
So you say this is the leadership of the warrior class.
00:36:58.540
They're there to be trained so they know what happens on caucus night.
00:37:05.240
And, you know, I don't ask me to explain how a caucus works.
00:37:08.680
I mean, I'd be here all night and I'd probably still be confused.
00:37:11.160
But it's basically I mean, you talk about the hardest core voters in America when you're going to go and spend an entire day at an event.
00:37:17.420
And then just to get your vote at the end or your your decision at the end, it's these are hardcore people.
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And so what they realize, though, I think the grassroots in particular, the leaders of the base of the party here realize they've got to expand that.
00:37:34.300
And because it's a complicated system, because it's a commitment, it's not just showing up for a few minutes.
00:37:38.540
Unless you're in Arizona and the you know, the printers go down, you've got to wait for six hours.
00:37:43.200
It's it's different than most other places where you can show up 10 minutes, cast your vote and go home here.
00:37:47.880
They're they're really having to mobilize a lot more people to show up and say, look, this is that important, especially in the primary to set the stage.
00:37:54.640
We can't have any more neocons, can't have the Nikki Haley's, can't have the Johnny come lately's behind, you know, just trying to tear down a president Trump.
00:38:04.200
And so this is really setting the stage and good for them.
00:38:07.220
I mean, it's it's about time the Republican Party step up and say, we're going to win this thing.
00:38:11.000
And I just spoke to the AG here, AG Bird and her focus.
00:38:16.060
The left is coming after her, attacking her for still supporting President Trump.
00:38:21.540
It's you know, she's inviting everybody to go to find out about more.
00:38:25.000
If you don't know how to do the caucus again, I'm not going to explain it to you.
00:38:30.100
You can go to the Iowa caucus websites, get that information and commit to doing it.
00:38:36.020
Tonight, they're they're having people sign up to commit to caucus.
00:38:44.940
The like I said, we're producing here is we're making this up a huge day.
00:38:49.240
Do people know, Ben, yet the impact of what's happened?
00:38:53.220
So so to pull the camera back for a second, a pretty historic day.
00:38:58.640
Number one, Hunter Biden blows off Congress and gives a presser for five reason statement for five minutes, then says prepared.
00:39:05.300
He's here to answer all questions publicly, then runs away from the sticks before the media gets in.
00:39:10.020
They then have a heated debate on the floor for an hour and then they're putting it to a vote right now to begin a formal impeachment inquiry.
00:39:20.200
And I've been told by sources that there's overwhelming evidence that will be put forth that will eviscerate the Biden crime family and will take this to a house eventually.
00:39:32.540
I mean, in February or March for an impeachment vote.
00:39:36.760
So this historic also, finally, the Supreme Court has gotten involved.
00:39:45.220
And now Chutkin has stayed everything in the case.
00:39:51.880
As I've said, I don't know how they start that trial in two years.
00:39:55.680
Now, I think we also know that the Manhattan case, I think, is going to come to some resolution in mid-January, the end of January.
00:40:04.800
Bottom line, it looks like the case in Florida is going to be also delayed.
00:40:10.740
The lawfare that they've tried to run on Trump because they can't beat him at the ballot box.
00:40:22.260
The Rasmussen poll, Gavin Getter, 20 percent of the American voters that Rasmussen polled, 20 percent, said they illegally filled out the mail-in ballots.
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Either they didn't live in the places, they filled it out for somebody else, which is against the law.
00:40:39.980
So you see this whole thing, the lawfare thing is starting to crumble.
00:40:50.380
Trump is now, the lawfare thing's coming unglued, and they're going to make it up.
00:40:58.740
You think Nikki Haley's got this kind of group?
00:41:00.740
And, Ben, tell us about how far around the gymnasium are they wrapped?
00:41:14.160
The fact that Hunter Biden showed up and he did not get slammed by the media, we've got
00:41:19.300
to have people that go out there and question these guys and make them uncomfortable at the
00:41:24.940
It's outrageous that he can walk up to a podium and do that.
00:41:35.580
We just hit 218, Mark, to open a formal impeachment inquiry.
00:41:43.720
And, of course, we've been on Comer and these guys to get on with it.
00:41:54.820
And remember, it's incumbent upon this audience to call and talk to your representative.
00:42:07.180
I think Jake Sherman, the guys at Punchbowl, have just tweeted out of, and I'm not making
00:42:11.600
this up, Paul Ryan coming down from the Speaker's office with Speaker Johnson.
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Note to Speaker Johnson's comm staff and his chief of staff, having Paul Ryan in on the
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72 hours or 48 hours before you take off for three weeks and then come back, avoiding
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Having Paul Ryan, who has eviscerated President Trump, bad-mouthed President Trump, as a sitting
00:42:40.080
board member or Murdoch News on the Murdoch board, trashing President Trump is a horrible
00:42:53.420
Why are you hanging around a guy like Paul Ryan?
00:42:57.820
I don't want to say Paul Ryan, as a former Speaker, was another failed Speaker.
00:43:01.080
You don't need to learn anything from McCarthy or Boehner or Ryan or any of them.
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The time is the most important commodity you have.
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OK, so a formal impeachment inquiry and people say, oh, this is terrible.
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We just opened an impeachment inquiry, formally opened.
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I think Nancy Pelosi, they did there as we started war room impeachment on that.
00:45:29.720
I think the end of September, beginning of October, President Trump was impeached right
00:45:35.820
They took it over to the Senate, started in January.
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This train is going to leave the station quickly.
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They've got a lot of information, and they're going to be hammers in this subpoena.
00:45:46.340
Remember, we have to hold ourselves up to a standard.
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It has to be real because he sold out the country.
00:45:56.480
Now, you think turbulence is starting now that we're backing up their lawfare?
00:46:01.860
Remember, they thought they were going to take Trump out by that.
00:46:03.720
They're not going to take Trump out by the lawfare.
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Also, Biden is going to have to stand and face the music.
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There's no convening authority the Democrats have.
00:46:22.480
They would love to change Biden out for Big Mike or for Whitmer or from the pretty boy and Lady Macbeth in California, right?
00:46:36.820
That's why we have to show the nation the crimes.
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The country is going to have to embrace the catastrophic consequences of a stolen election.
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If that's the best you can do, Abby Lowe and Hunter Biden, you've got to bring it.
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We do give you the macro trends that people call macro on Wall Street, but you have to talk to the experts.
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The 7.30 Eastern time, Grace and Moe have us up on Getter and on Rumble.
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Real America's Voice is going to cover it also.
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He's the only guy that could take the arrows to the back that he's taken.
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Stay focused on your call, your life, what the God has, the mission for your life, and do that thing.
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They don't want Joe Biden as the candidate because they know how bad it is.
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But the importance of this impeachment inquiry, it has to be overwhelming evidence to where they cannot ignore it.
00:48:15.860
Ben Burkwam, social media, where do people get you to follow you, sir?
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You have to see these interviews I got with the black men of Chicago.
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It's time for black men to take back the head of the household.
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It's time for them to take back the communities.
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You guys have to see this at Ben Burkwam and then social media, I mean, excuse me, website, frontlineamerica.com, americasvoice.news.
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I never talk about that, but you can check it out.
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I can't believe Ben Burkwam's making a pitch on War Room.
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I think Bruce Wright's going to get hooked up in that.
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In the next hour, and by the way, Ben's at Coralville, 7.30 Eastern Time.
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We're going to pull it up on Getter and Rumble.
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I'm sure he's going to have a couple things about that.
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There may be a couple of three long faces because they were getting onto each other's throat.
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They were getting into each other's throats here earlier.
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By the way, it may be now more than ever, we're working on a project about the deep state and about the administrative state.
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But don't let, you know, since the domestic surveillance, silent control, FISA is going to go through.
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The NDA vote, I think, is going to be tomorrow.
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Made sure we get this impeachment over the top.
00:51:02.340
It could always change, but they've heard your voice, and I'm hearing feedback, that you're coming at them and coming at them hard.
00:51:12.780
I want to thank Tucker earlier today, came on the show.
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Tucker's going to be with us out at AmFest with Charlie Kirk.
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If you can make it out there in the greater Phoenix area, I really want you guys to come out there,
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particularly in the fact that we're going to be doing, I don't know, hours of shows on Monday and Tuesday live.
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If you're going to come, I'd love to have you come to the speech and maybe even throw down hard here.
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I got some feedback today from people I really, really respect told me they've tried the coffee.
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Okay, Natalie Winters is up next about Taylor Swift.
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We're always here to give you signal, not noise.
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There's this rising revolt of what I call the Swifties.
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And Taylor Swift is quite a powerful political force.
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Now, our own Natalie Winters is going to break it all down to you.
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Natalie Winters will be back here in just a moment.
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