In this episode of The War Room, host Stephen K.K. Bannon and co-host Simone Sanders Townsend discuss the Vice President's new campaign ad for the 2020 Democratic primary campaign, Joe Biden's call to action on January 6th, 2020, and why he's running for re-election in 2024.
00:00:00.000I've made the preservation of American democracy the central issue of my presidency.
00:00:04.240I believe in free and fair elections and the right to vote fairly and have your vote counted.
00:00:10.520There's something dangerous happening in America.
00:00:13.520There's an extremist movement that does not share the basic beliefs in our democracy.
00:00:18.480All of us are being asked right now, what will we do to maintain our democracy?
00:00:24.480History's watching. The world is watching.
00:00:27.140Most important, our children and grandchildren will hold us responsible.
00:00:32.840The vice president and I have supported voting rights since day one of this administration.
00:00:37.480And I ask every American to join me in this cause.
00:00:41.680America is still a place of possibilities where the power resides with we, the people.
00:00:47.400That's our soul. We are the United States of America.
00:00:51.560There is nothing beyond our capacity and we act together.
00:00:54.480I'm Joe Biden and I approve this message.
00:00:58.180Tomorrow, the president will travel to Pennsylvania to give a speech tied to the anniversary of the day the American history of a peaceful transfer of power ended.
00:01:07.220Mistakes, well, they couldn't be higher as disinformation around the January 6th insurrection continues to grow.
00:01:13.140The Washington Post is out today with a new poll that found that 25 percent of Americans,
00:01:16.80025 percent, believe the false conspiracy theory that the January 6th insurrection was instigated by the FBI.
00:01:23.900Joining me and Michael, former chief spokesperson for the vice for Vice President Harris and our co-host on the new weekend show, The Weekend, Simone Sanders Townsend.
00:01:35.540I thought the ad was powerful and I frankly thought the ad is important.
00:01:40.620Look, every campaign has a theory of the case, right?
00:01:43.160In 2016, Bernie Sanders' theory of the case for his campaign was we live in a rigged economy, kept in place by a system of corrupt campaign finance.
00:01:50.080In 2020, Joe Biden's campaign theory of the case was we're in a battle of the soul of this nation.
00:01:54.780I'm running to restore the soul of this nation on all these different tracks.
00:01:58.140His theory of the case for 2024 and his reelection campaign seems to be democracy and we're and he is running to preserve democracy.
00:02:08.100And because democracy is on the line, that is why it is important that I step up.
00:02:15.140So I think this is the opening salvo, if you will, for 2024.
00:02:18.360I know that people on the Internet and sometimes, you know, some hosts of some random radio shows, they like to say all Joe Biden does is talk about Trump.
00:02:25.220But he doesn't actually all he does and they do is they've talked a lot about the economy and their achievements, not as much about Donald Trump and the threat.
00:02:35.040And so this I think we're going to see the president start to lay the groundwork for what hit, what the what the the calling card, if you will, for the 2024 campaign is going to be with specifics.
00:02:46.920And if they're talking about democracy, a lot of things fall into that bucket.
00:02:50.500Right. Abortion, gun safety, our children, health care, all of these different things.
00:02:58.200And so I think it is a message that has legs. Right.
00:03:00.660Record numbers streaming across our border, costing taxpayers billions and almost as many Americans killed from fentanyl as killed in World War Two.
00:03:09.780Yet Haley and Biden oppose Trump's border wall, confirm warnings of terrorists sneaking in through our southern border.
00:03:16.980Yet Haley joined Biden in opposing Trump's visitor ban from terrorist nations.
00:03:22.180Haley's weakness puts us in grave danger.
00:13:00.940And my time out on the road has been invested in meeting new people.
00:13:04.060And a lot of those folks are – they're flooding to the Republican Party.
00:13:08.600They're coming to the realization that they've been lied to for the past six years.
00:13:12.120And a lot of them are picking up the Trump 2024 banner where they – last cycle they were victim to the propaganda.
00:13:19.660But this cycle, doing the work for Trump on his own, you can't lie to people over and over and over again and expect them to continue believing it,
00:13:31.200especially when we're in a border district theoretically here in Ohio, being so close to Lake Erie and the Canadian border,
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00:30:48.680If he wins on any one of those arguments, he wins.
00:30:52.660And that's the challenge that the other side is going to have.
00:30:55.660We were talking about this before, Eric.
00:30:57.120I think you and I both begin from the premise that the Supreme Court simply does not want to step in and decide the election.
00:31:02.800That there's no way they're going to uphold the Maine decision or the Colorado decision.
00:31:06.800We may be proven wrong, but what's the argument?
00:31:08.940Well, the argument that the other side is going to make is that under the clear words of the 14th Amendment, Section 3, this should apply, right?
00:31:19.140And that's where a lot of people start.
00:31:20.520And they say, wait a sec, look at this.
00:31:23.680But then when you get into the little definitional aspects of the 14th Amendment and you look at other sections of the 14th Amendment, there are various arguments to be made.
00:31:31.880And I think the most important one is this argument about due process, right, which is where has he been charged with an insurrection?
00:31:40.740In Colorado, they would say, well, it was a judge that resolved this question, et cetera.
00:31:45.520But there are real legal arguments that Donald Trump has.
00:31:49.640And because there's a menu of outs for the court, they're going to find one, I would think, that will say Donald Trump can remain on the ballot.
00:31:58.420A far different case also coming, whether the president, former president, has immunity from criminal prosecution.
00:32:04.460And that's a much more of a long shot argument.
00:32:06.560The idea that the president of the United States has total immunity in his role as president, I can't see how the court would determine that.
00:32:15.420And this is a nice way, by the way, if they want to take up both together to make it clear they're being fair, which is, no, the president doesn't have total immunity.
00:32:26.540Okay, so Mike Davis, ABC, the viewers of ABC, which are vast, just saw that yesterday.
00:32:33.180You told us this on the 14th Amendment, actually on the day that the bogus Leonard Leo paper came out, I don't know, six months ago now.
00:32:44.400That was literally what you told everybody.
00:32:46.440So I want to go back through the immunity thing first, and then I want to talk about, excuse me, 14th Amendment first, and then talk about immunity because I know you disagree with Dan Abrams.
00:32:54.520Excuse me. He agrees with you on the 14th Amendment.
00:32:56.720Are you pretty confident now the court will take it up, and are you pretty confident about the arguments as Dan Abrams and Stephanopoulos, who's the leading Trump hater?
00:33:04.180Well, the Supreme Court has discretionary review.
00:33:07.740They don't have to take this case, but I don't know how the Supreme Court avoids this case because you have these four partisan whack jobs on the Colorado Supreme Court, along with this non-lawyer, unelected partisan whack job, main secretary of state, Jenna Bellows, whatever the hell her name is,
00:33:28.000just decreeing that under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment that Trump cannot be on the Republican primary ballot in those states.
00:33:36.900Now, they have stayed their orders once Trump files the appeal.
00:33:41.080So Trump's going to go on the ballot on those states unless the Supreme Court rules quickly, which they're not going to do.
00:33:48.300So the Supreme Court could try to dodge this and say that Trump's on the ballot.
00:33:57.720But the problem is that these Democrat operatives are going to use these precedents, these egregiously wrong precedents in Colorado and Maine to try to knock President Trump off the ballot in swing states.
00:34:10.240They fear that the only way they're going to stop President Trump, because the American people are supporting President Trump, according to every poll, he is going to beat Biden like a drum on November 5th, 2024.
00:34:23.160Apparently, those two impeachments for nonsense, these four indictments for non-crimes, the two illegal gag orders, the trying to bankrupt Trump for non-fraud, that all backfired, as we've been predicting, Steve, since the Mar-a-Lago raid in August of 2022.
00:34:39.200They've turned President Trump into Nelson Mandela, and now they just want to take him off the ballot.
00:34:46.600And the Supreme Court, they're going to have to put on their big boy pants.
00:34:49.860I know they don't want to take any Trump cases because they pretend like they have this lifetime tenure and this pay protection, and they're not political, but they're politicians in robes.
00:34:59.160They're going to have to take off their partisan robes and put on their big boy pants and actually take a Trump case.
00:35:11.640He comes down pretty harshly on the immunity side, and he also gets into the politics.
00:35:15.760He says, hey, they'll give him – they'll make sure he's not off the ballot on the 14th, but they won't back his total immunity.
00:35:22.440What are your thoughts on this immunity and the filings that have gone on?
00:35:25.200That's – I disagree with him on that.
00:35:27.820This is what I think the Supreme Court is going to do.
00:35:30.520Members of Congress, through the speech or debate clause in the Constitution, have immunity for their official actions, both civil immunity and criminal immunity.
00:35:40.540Federal judges have both civil immunity and criminal immunity through their judicial immunity.
00:35:46.600The president right now only has civil immunity because we've never had criminal charges against a president of the United States until the Democrats, including Joe Biden's White House brought – Joe Biden's White House and Justice Department brought four bogus indictments against Trump, right?
00:36:03.620So now we have these cases where we have to decide whether the president has immunity for what he does within his official capacity as the president of the United States and under a Supreme Court president in the civil immunity context, the outer perimeter of his official capacity.
00:36:20.420If judges have immunity both civil – civilly and criminally and members of Congress have immunity both civilly and criminally, why the hell wouldn't the president of the United States?
00:36:29.720And why wouldn't the president of the United States have criminal immunity from prosecution for his official acts if he has civil immunity?
00:36:38.140The whole point is that these government officials shouldn't have to fear that their successor is going to throw them in prison for doing their jobs.
00:36:46.720And that's exactly what Biden's trying to do.
00:36:49.740They're trying to say that President Trump didn't call the National Guard quickly enough to put down the riots on January 6th, and they're going to try to charge him for that.
00:36:58.480Okay, can a presidential candidate call the National Guard?
00:37:18.700When Trump's back in office, should his Justice Department, should the Trump 47 Justice Department indict for murder President Obama for ordering a drone strike on two American citizens without a court order, extrajudicial killing of two American citizens, including a 16-year-old?
00:37:38.480Should we indict President Obama for capital murder for doing that, right?
00:37:54.620Should the Trump 43—Trump 47, excuse me—Justice Department indict Biden for manslaughter for his disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan?
00:38:04.640This is what I want to say to the Democrats.
00:38:07.640Do you really want to go down this path where you're going to put a president in prison for his official duties and say that he doesn't have criminal immunity?
00:38:15.400What happens when the American people say, we don't care if President Trump has been indicted and convicted by this Trump-deranged prosecutor, this Biden special counsel Jack Smith, this D.C. Obama judge Tanya Shukkin, this 95 percent Trump-deranged D.C. jury pool?
00:38:34.660Well, it's actually probably 99 percent Trump-deranged because even the Republicans in D.C. are Trump-deranged.
00:38:40.180And then they convict Trump, and he still wins the White House, and he's back in the White House.
00:38:46.140I would say to the Democrats, let's play this game.
00:38:48.660I would love to see President Obama go to prison for murdering two American citizens.
00:38:53.720If you want to go down this path, let's go down this path.
00:38:58.680Mike Davis, you've been on point on all of these.
00:39:01.560How do people get to your social media where you're putting up information all day, and where do they go to find out more about Article III?
00:39:37.560Mike Davis, particularly for all the left-wing media that watches us and all the left-wing political operatives, on the short list to be the Attorney General of the United States in Trump 47.
00:39:48.760So thank you very much for joining us, brother.
00:40:00.840And come on, let's go ahead and play it, guys.
00:40:02.600Record numbers streaming across our border, costing taxpayers billions and almost as many Americans killed from fentanyl as killed in World War II.
00:40:11.660Yet Haley and Biden oppose Trump's border wall, confirm warnings of terrorists sneaking in through our southern border.
00:40:18.500Yet Haley joined Biden in opposing Trump's visitor ban from terrorist nations.
00:40:24.100Haley's weakness puts us in grave danger.
00:40:29.920I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.
00:40:34.280Oscar Blue Ramirez, you've put yourself in harm's way over the last three years to cover the most important story in the United States of America,
00:40:41.140the invasion of our country now with 10 million illegal alien invaders.
00:40:49.820It tells me about these politicians, that they should behold for treason against, you know, the United States of America,
00:40:55.260what Joe Biden has done, the Democrats have done, all of the people that they are involved, the corrupt.
00:41:00.720Also, not only Democrats, Steve, but also some Republicans, that they have not done anything.
00:41:05.180And they're trying to step in the way of Donald Trump to become president again,
00:41:08.800because they know that as soon as he steps in into office, this will end.
00:41:12.520He will pull out of the United Nations Global Compact on Migration.
00:41:15.620He will put security on again at the United States border, and he will held accountable all the people that they were part of this treason.
00:41:21.820And also, he will put punishment for smugglers and traffickers.
00:41:24.660Not only that, the wall, this administration is one of the most hypocritical administrations ever, Steve.
00:41:30.080I remember back in 2016, before that, and after that, there were massive protesters, activists, you know,
00:41:37.780progressive liberal activists over here in Mexico protesting against the wall.
00:41:41.700Not too far away from here, Steve, on the side of the water with Imperial Beach, Joe Biden is still building the wall.
00:41:49.840It's still going with what Donald Trump started.
00:41:52.080So it's one of the most hypocritical administrations.
00:41:54.960And ultimately, they're trying to step in the way of him becoming again president,
00:41:58.520because law and order will become again into the United States, Steve.
00:42:03.080We're going to have O'Keefe and Raheem on in the second hour to talk about this secret facility O'Keefe found in Phoenix.
00:42:10.720It turns out that $500 million of taxpayer money go to the NGOs like you've identified,
00:42:16.340this international relief organization, $500 million of our money to go to pay for it.
00:42:21.400But we're hearing that the cartels are making $32 million like a week on trafficking people just in one sector.
00:43:04.100My colleague Van Berkwam said it a couple of days ago.
00:43:06.840Six gunmen were shot down by the military.
00:43:09.460Six cicatios were shot down by the military.
00:43:11.480These people are fighting relentlessly to control open border gaps.
00:43:16.060This was not happening under the Trump administration, not as relentless as it is happening right now.
00:43:22.600And, you know, and the NGOs, they have become more powerful right now due to the fact that they are giving out millions and millions of federal –
00:43:30.160this is the federal grants, American taxpayer money.
00:52:42.040I hope to have it before the end of January as we're going through with Philip Patrick and the team.
00:52:47.380But most importantly, make sure you talk to Philip Patrick and the guys and fully understand whether the forces that are driving gold where it is right now and why the BRICS nations, the central banks of the folks that own the resources in the global south, why are they de-dollarizing?
00:53:02.820And right now, all this crazy talk about actually taking the Russians' treasury bills, converting them into cash, and saying to Ukraine because we've stopped the Ukraine funding, the war and posse, and the MAGA movement, the America First.
00:53:15.100They're trying to break the law to do it.