Episode 3452： De-Wokafying The Military; Where We Stand With TikTok
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In this episode, Katie and Charlie discuss the impact of Donald Trump s victory in the presidential election and what it means for the future of the country if he s re-elected in 2020. They also talk about the impact on the economy of a Trump White House and what that could mean for the economy if he becomes president.
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U.S. to a double-A over the summer, they specifically cited the increasing polarization, declining
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governance over the past 20 years, but more specifically, they cited the January 6th
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insurrection. Under your presidency, if you are reelected, what can you tell us about
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how stable the U.S. will be, especially as it appears that you are stoking some political
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divide? You held a rally in Waco, Texas, and you're sort of playing to this polarization
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of groups here. Well, when I had the rally in Waco, we had 100,000 people show up. That's
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where they wanted the rally. You know, I'm like a businessman politician. You go where
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the people are, and I go to places. We had a tremendous rally this weekend. We're having
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rallies in Michigan. The rallies are bigger than they've ever been. We have, as soon as
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the season gets a little bit warmer, when we can do the outdoor. Right now, there's no
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arena that can hold. Does it matter to you, though, that we are downgraded, that we've
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been downgraded, and that our credit rating could be at further risk, should there be
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further political polarization? It's not because of January 6th. We get downgraded
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because of incompetent people, very incompetent people doing incompetent things. And as far
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as the dollar is concerned, we're losing countries. We lose Iran. We lose this one. We have Russia
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that's out. We have many, many countries that we throw out of the system, and we can't lose
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that system. That system is the dollar. That system is a very important system to the vitality
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and strength of our country. If we ever do lose that, they take out Russia. China would
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love to be, you know, the leader of the pack is China, because they'd love to take it over.
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And it will be possible to take it over if we're not strong. We have to hold countries
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in. And if countries want to get out, we're going to have to say, well, if you want to get
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out of our system and go to, let's say, a Russian version or your own version, then we're not going
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to do any trade with you. And they'll be back in about two seconds. But it depends on who's
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posing that statement to whoever it is, the leader, like you're dealing with Macron or you're dealing
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with the leaders. You have to be able to talk to them properly. Our people don't know how to talk
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to them. Our people are like we go their hat in hand. We're like beggars. Our country is no longer
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respected. The people representing us are not respected. I just had Victor Orban, a tough man
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from Hungary. He was at my place in Florida. You know, I get along with him very well, friendly,
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but I have respect for him. He made the statement. I thought it was a wonderful statement. He said,
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we'll solve the problems of the world if Donald Trump comes back. He said Russia was afraid of him.
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China was afraid of him. We had no problems whatsoever under Trump. And now we have Israel being
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attacked, which, by the way, would have never happened. We have Ukraine and Russia fighting.
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That would have never happened. All of those dead people in blown up cities, because Ukraine is now
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just just it's like a demolition site. What they've done to Ukraine, none of that would have happened.
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All those people would be alive today if the election result were, let's say, correct.
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If all of this happening, we talked about the young Republicans
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who unfortunately have had their bearings twisted by this to become unrecognizable.
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And you look at, I saw Vaughn Hilliard interviewing people at Trump rallies talking about civil war,
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saying that if they didn't win this time, they were going to use violence. They're going to take
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over state legislatures. They were going to take over courts. They were going to come to Washington.
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They were going to take over Washington. Charlie Sykes. This is this is not a test run.
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This is a guy that's told his followers, if I win, I'm going to be a dictator.
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And his followers are all in. And again, Charlie, how perverse that it's people that I went to church
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with evangelicals, a lot of them that seem to be swept up into this totalitarianism,
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this authoritarianism and also small government Republicans, Tea Party types that wanted small
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government. They're now begging for an autocrat, for a tyrant, for a dictator.
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And all of this is happening in broad daylight, in real in real time. And there's no subtlety.
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There's no secret about it. As Katie, as Katie mentioned, he's leaning into his embrace of
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illiberal authoritarianism. He says it out loud. And, you know, speaking of, you know, his the
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younger Republicans on the bench, you have people like Nancy Mace now who are forced to go out
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and justify the fact that that this this illiberal authoritarian who's talking about civil war is
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also been found liable for rape. So you begin to put together this picture, what Republicans are
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embracing right now, what they are endorsing and what Donald Trump is bringing into this campaign,
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because Donald Trump is not going to get better. I think throughout 2024, what you're going to see
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is his inability to restrain his id. And the fact that he's he's up there on stage at Mar-a-Lago
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talking about, you know, he's not controversial because he's the boss. He says something and
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it's over. This is clearly something that he admires. This is clearly something that he aspires
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to. And yes, it's alarming. And I know there are people out there who say, look, you know,
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you guys are engaging in Trump derangement syndrome. Just listen to Donald Trump. Listen to what he is
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saying. Listen to what his supporters are saying on a daily basis. It's not a secret.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in
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the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save
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my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Monday, 11 March in the year of our Lord, 2024. Four years ago, on this date, and hopefully
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get some clips up later, the mainstream media effectively, I think it was a Saturday, effectively
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called this a pandemic. They called what happened in 2020 a pandemic. Of course, we had been on
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it since mid-January because Miles Guo and other folks that we knew that knew China very well
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helped us work through what was happening in Wuhan. Remember, that's the lab where they were
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creating bioweapons. They now have all come to the conclusion after lying for years that this did not
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come from a wet market. It was made by man. It was made as a bioweapon. We'll leave that topic for
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maybe later in the show this afternoon. Right there, I wanted to compare and contrast
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because, you know, they're running around about Biden, Biden doing this, Biden doing that,
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you know, this great speech. Of course, you saw he drew about 50 people in Atlanta, drew about 50
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people in Atlanta the next day. And Chris was saying, well, czar SVP was into, it was invitation only.
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Well, whoever they invited didn't show up because only 50 people showed up. But right there,
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you see President Trump, and this is an amazing interview he gave this morning on CNBC.
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And, I mean, he went yard in that answer right there, particularly about, he's talking about
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guys talking about not just NATO, but really coming off of the dollar and setting up an
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alternative currency. And he said, hey, you're going to do that? Then maybe we don't trade with
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you. But President Trump's laying down heavy policy. You see the response in Charlie Sykes there at the
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Bulwark. I think he might step down as editor-in-chief for the Bulwark. She's still with him. He's the
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founder of it. He wrote a big detailed piece on NBC News over the weekend
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about the war room and about the war room posse. Let's say this. He's not a fan. I think we can say
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it succinctly. He's not a fan. But you see right there, and Moody Meek hits him. No, he's not. No, he's not.
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They're in full meltdown, but they don't have really any facts. They can't really back this up with
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anything to talk about what the counter-argument is, what President Trump puts out there on their
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sister station, CNBC. It's all Trump derangement system. It's all illiberal authoritarianism. I mean,
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he meets with Viktor Orban, who's one of the great defenders of the Judeo-Christian West,
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and they just completely lose it. But it's all emotion. They never come back with facts. They
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never come back with, hey, this is what counters their program. This is what these people don't like
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about our program. This is their argument, but the argument doesn't work. They never do that.
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And Rahim Kassam joins Rahim. I think you put your finger on it with this buried lead
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about the Democrats, because right now it's not a rational argument. So they're going to pull out
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everything, whether it's election stealing, election suppression, however this is going to work.
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And we'll get into the TikTok and Google and all of that, because the feudal lords of big tech,
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the tech oligarch feudal lords are going to have not their finger on the scale with the overlords
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of Wall Street. They're going to be working nonstop to stop Trump. But you dug up this nugget
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that says little Jamie Raskin and the guys are actively plotting, since they're losing in lawfare,
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to actually come up with the potential that, although they lost 9-0 about Trump being on the ballot,
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President Trump being on the ballot, they're actually looking to set up a firestorm for January
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6th. How ironic is that? To basically stop President Trump from taking the White House.
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You want to walk through, and I think Rasmussen has worked on some of this, you want to walk us
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through. First off, just reset where we are in this. You saw today the emotional response of
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Morning Joe, and you're just going to get that on and on and on. That's what you're going to get between
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now and the rest of the year. Well, I think that's right, Steve, and a very good morning to you and
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the war room posse. A couple of weeks ago, we found what can only be described as the buriedest of
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buried leads, right, which was in the Atlantic magazine, the Democrats effectively signaling that
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should there be a Trump victory in November, they would do their uttermost to refuse certification
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on January 6th, 2025. Their rationale appears to be January 6th, 2021. They claim that it is
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incumbent upon the U.S. Congress to not allow a quote-unquote insurrectionist back into the Oval
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Office, and that therefore they will use that as a mechanism by which to block certification of
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results on January 6th, 2025. So we started to look a little bit deeper, started to scratch beneath
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the surface of those claims and those conversations that were being made. And thanks to our friends at
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Rasmussen Reports, we actually now can also reveal this morning some polling data that we have found
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as a result of that, you know, like you said, emotional response to what is going on with Donald
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Trump and what is going on with the country at the moment. The split screens are all over the place,
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by the way, and it's against the backdrop of those split screens, whether you want to call them,
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you know, the border split screens, the State of the Union split screens, the rally split screens.
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This, what you're seeing on your screens at the moment, ladies and gentlemen, are the numbers that
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come off the back of that. And what these numbers tell us is that 57% of likely Democrat voters say
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they support the idea that their representative should reject certification on January 6th, 2025,
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if there is a Trump victory. Those are not small numbers by any stretch of the imagination.
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Those are massive numbers. Those are concerning numbers. And Steve, those are numbers that set
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up January 6th, 2025 to make January 6th, 2021 look like a walk in the park.
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Hey, hang on a second. Hang on a second. By the way, we're having to grass on six o'clock
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because he's over at the houses working today. He's going to join us at six to go through
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redistricting and others. And this whole issue, Raheem, about illegal aliens counting in these
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districts. I mean, this thing's a fiasco right now. This, this makes the house race.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. This makes the house race for who controls the house as important as
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the presidential race. Cause now they literally are inextricably linked. 57% brother is a blowout
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number. That is a blowout to know that 50% of the, remember 50% of the Democrats didn't say if he
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stole it or there's some election interference, basically 57% would be prepared to back their
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congressman. If they voted to decertify, if Trump won the operant word, there is one not steal
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there. 57% and that's today. Think about when they work on these crazy people all summer and fall
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and Trump's ahead by five or six points and they're in desperate. You're going to say,
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we're leaving the country. We're doing the morning. Mika is going to be not like whimpering at the
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end. She can be groaning up at the top. Raheem Kassam. Well, this sets up a really important
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narrative for the U S public here, right? A continuation of a Biden regime and a Democrat house
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carnage, uh, a, a, a, a Trump white house and a Democrat house carnage, a Trump white house and a
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Republican Congress. Now through these numbers, you can see is the only way to hit that reset button,
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to hit that reset button on what's going on on the border, to hit that reset button on what's going
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on with the weaponization of government, to hit the reset button of the administrative state. The,
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the Republicans can now, uh, go, you know, to their, to their voting publics, to the moderates,
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to the independents, to the people in the middle, to the people who are not sure to the people who
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might want to vote Trump at the top of the ticket, but I'm not sure about the rest of the way down.
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They take this data to them and say, look what they intend to do. If you send them to the house,
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you cannot govern like that. You cannot hold a nation together like that.
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Uh, by the way, Raheem, I'll get to it when we come back, stick around. Cause I ought to ask
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every Democrat runner right now, if they support this short break, Raheem on the other side.
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Greater because of incompetent people, very incompetent people doing incompetent things.
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And as far as the dollar is concerned, we're losing countries. Don't we lose Iran? We lose this
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one. We have Russia that's out. We have many, many countries that we throw out of the system.
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And we can't lose that system. That system is very, the dollar, that system is a very important system
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to the vitality and strength of our country. If we ever do lose that, they take out Russia.
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China would love to be, you know, the leader of the pack is China because they'd love to take it over.
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And it will be possible to take it over if we're not strong. We have to hold countries in.
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And if countries want to get out, we're going to have to say, well, if you want to get out of our
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system and go to, let's say, a Russian version or your own version, then we're not going to do
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any trade with you. And they'll be back in about two seconds. But it depends on who's posing that
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statement to whoever it is, the leader, like you're dealing with Macron or you're dealing with the
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leaders. You have to be able to talk to them properly. Our people don't know how to talk to
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them. Our people are like, we go their hat in hand. We're like beggars. Our country is no longer
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respected. The people representing us are not respected. I just had Viktor Orban, a tough man
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from Hungary. He was at my place in Florida. You know, I get along with him very well, friendly,
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but I have respect for him. He made the statement. I thought it was a wonderful statement. He said,
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we'll solve the problems of the world if Donald Trump comes back. He said Russia was afraid of
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him. China was afraid of him. We had no problems whatsoever under Trump. And now we have Israel
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being attacked, which, by the way, would have never happened. We have Ukraine and Russia fighting.
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That would have never happened. All of those dead people in blown up cities, because Ukraine is now
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just just it's like a demolition site. What they've done to Ukraine, none of that would have happened.
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All those people would be alive today if the election result were, let's say, correct.
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Okay. Magnificent answer. Let's break that down for a second. Raheem's going to join us here in a
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moment. Brian Costello is going to be here about TikTok. Melissa Lee. So she's trying to jump Trump
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there. We cut it a little tight. She tried to jump Trump with a wise guy, as President Trump would
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put it a wise guy question. Trying to equate the downgrading we got with January 6th. You notice
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CNBC, they never get when they get McCarthy on there. They don't talk about what this really about
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is about the debt deal they did back in May and June. You know why? The big donors didn't want to
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be taxed. And that's why the deal went through and all the advertisers and all the CEOs or corporate
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CEOs. So CNBC is quiet on that. The reason we're downgraded is that we've got, we're getting 35
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trillion. We've got $35 trillion or close to 35 trillion in debt. What, two and a half or three
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trillion more than we had back when that deal was cut. And it's getting worse. This week, they're
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going to approve another disaster with two to two and a half trillion dollar deficit. And guess what?
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Biden's going to put out his budget. 25 budgets coming today. Today. We'll be all over it. There'll
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be another fast. His thing, oh, I'm taking three trillion out over 10 years. It's all crap. Don't
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give me the 10 years. Give me the, give me the period zero. Give me, give me this year. So Melissa Lee's
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trying to be a wise guy. President Trump's talking about the post-war international rules based order,
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which obviously needs a big restructuring. But his point is, hey, you have these guys that are trying
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to get off of our system today and really break the dollar. And if you're going to do that,
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Trump's got something to say about it. You're not going to do trade with us. I mean, that's the
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muscle you need. This is why there was peace and prosperity during Trump's term. Because you've
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got to think like that and you've got to act like that. That is called leadership. That is called
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strength. And of course, Melissa Lee's trying to be a wise guy and try to call the January 6th. No,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They did it because of the confrontation. Why don't you,
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why don't you ask all these other political leaders, all your, why do you fan boy over
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McCarthy and don't come up and talk to him about the downgrade? Downgrade is going to get a lot
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worse. You ain't seen nothing yet. Big story on Zero Hedge Day, one of the top hedge fund guys
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in the world. He says he's preaching the gospel of war room two years, two years to a sovereign debt
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crisis in the good old United States of America, not Zambibia or, you know, some sub-Saharan
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African country or some country in Southeast Asia, the United States of America, a sovereign debt
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crisis. OK, this is not about about people standing up and saying, hey, you can't just have these debt
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deals and you can't equate it to January 6th. That's that's being a wise guy. She got blowed up real
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good. As we see in the business, President Trump coming on strong. OK, Raheem, the emotion now you
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dropped a bomb on us. First off, you're the first guy to pick up the fact. And Jamie Rasky's guys have
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now been ever since you added them. They're pretty they're pretty upfront about it. They're plotting
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right now. If they can't stop Trump, they know they can't beat him at the polls. They've given up on
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that. If they can't stop him with election interference, their their second redoubt is
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January 6th, where they're not going to seat him. It might. I mean, it's there. And now you do the
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polling. The vast majority of Democrats, 57 percent today, when it really hasn't been promulgated,
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agree with him. Do they not, sir? Yeah, that's a really interesting part of it, Steve, is that right
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now most of those people who are being polled on this particular question, it's probably the first
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time they've heard of this. It's probably the first time they've even considered that that was
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a was a possibility for Democrats if they take control of the House. Some will have thought thought
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it through. Most obviously wouldn't have. And so when they start to talk about this, when they start
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actually having these conversations up front on national television, whether it's the morning
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Joes of the world or whether it's, you know, in their in their copies of Atlantic magazine that
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are delivered into their mailboxes, I expect that number to actually harden. I expect that number
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amongst Democrats to grow and I expect the sentiment there to harden. I think what they're going to try
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and do is now portray and you think about the hypocrisy of all of this, right, is they're now going to try
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and portray the non-certification of Donald Trump's victory on January the 6th, 2025 as the last day to
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save democracy. Mark it in your diaries. Write that phrase down. You will start to hear them parrot
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that day in and day out as the reality rushes up on them. And the reality is rushing up on them,
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not just in a, you know, the split screen way that we've seen, but also in this thing that we've seen
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over the last week where they're all really excited about the fact that Joe Biden was actually able to
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deliver a State of the Union address. They were so excited about it that they in fact forgot that the
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content wasn't actually that popular with the American public. The fact he was able to stand up there
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and give the speech, whatever amphetamines they had him on and so forth, that offered them the tiniest
00:23:39.220
little respite, which is why you're not necessarily going to hear about this this week, which is also why I
00:23:45.220
decided and Rasmussen reports decided that we are going to drop this this week because it's about
00:23:50.960
drawing them out. It's about drawing the argument out. And to your point of the last segment, we are
00:23:57.500
now going to Democrat offices on Capitol Hill and asking them the question, asking members the
00:24:03.360
question, do you support this or not? And let's hear what they have to say for themselves, because
00:24:08.280
if they're not upfront and honest with their election, with their voting public right now, the
00:24:13.440
election that's coming up in November, then you can see a scenario where this actually makes the
00:24:19.120
situation far worse at the ballot box for the Democrats. Far worse. One more time, Raheem,
00:24:25.780
just read the question. It's not if Trump stole the election. It's read the question. You get the
00:24:31.400
questions, everything. This is what the 57 percent said. Yes, I'm for that. What's the question?
00:24:37.480
Yeah. And I encourage everybody, if they can, to go to the nationalpulse.com and get this data.
00:24:42.440
We've put a nice graphic up there as well. But I'll read the question for you here.
00:24:46.180
Some Democrats in Congress have said that if Trump wins this year's election, they will vote against
00:24:50.680
certifying the election results because of Trump's role in the January 6, 2021 Capitol riots. Do you
00:24:57.800
support or oppose Democrats refusing to certify the election results if Trump wins? And Steve,
00:25:05.180
it's worth noting that it's not just Democrat likely voters, 57 percent, as we've said, who object,
00:25:11.680
who support this move by the Democrats. You look at the numbers amongst black voters, 59 percent of
00:25:19.000
those polled. You look at the numbers against moderates and independents or those who register
00:25:24.580
themselves as no party affiliation in this poll. The number ranges from 30 to 40 percent. This is huge.
00:25:32.460
This is the fight that the Democrats currently think they want. Let's let them have it.
00:25:38.340
Let's let them have it. Let's let's let's get it with with both barrels. I know you get a bounce
00:25:44.720
real quickly. Portugal, the Populist Nationalist Party, I think 18 percent. What is the symbolism of
00:25:50.860
Orban being with President Trump in Mar-a-Lago for basically the whole day in a big celebration party
00:25:56.300
that night in his honor? What what how big a deal is that throughout the world?
00:26:00.440
Well, massive, certainly massive for Viktor Orban domestically as well, you know, coming off the
00:26:05.780
back of this NATO expansion that he's had to fight along the lines of for a while now and arguably,
00:26:11.720
you know, not not not to a particularly great W there. So big for him domestically. Huge as far as
00:26:19.320
the European Populist Nationalist parties are concerned. You know, Viktor Orban is very much the
00:26:24.040
plenipotentiary of of the populist nationalists right across the European mainland. You know,
00:26:29.860
as much as sort of Nigel Farage is to the English speaking West for Donald Trump and the MAGA
00:26:35.680
movement. But the result in Portugal is a big one. Chega, which is the the quote unquote far right
00:26:40.780
party, right? The populist nationalist party of the political right will now be thrust into a kind of
00:26:45.940
kingmaking situation in Portugal with the with the center right party kind of trying to keep their
00:26:51.940
distance from them. Very much a conservative party slash UKIP style election that you're seeing take
00:26:59.380
place in Portugal at the moment. And of course, a big thing coming out of the United Kingdom this
00:27:03.440
morning as well. The former chairman, deputy chairman of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom
00:27:08.660
defecting to the Reform Party. That's Nigel Farage's party, giving them their first member of parliament.
00:27:15.140
And of course, the results in Ireland, too, where over this weekend, ordinary people, the Irish people
00:27:21.940
rejected the the elite, the media, the party, the government's attempts to rewrite the role of
00:27:31.160
family. It was probably what I would call the ultimate act of political hubris. That is the
00:27:36.760
confluence of the negation of history, God and family are all in that referendum in Ireland this
00:27:42.800
weekend. So so as far as Europeans are concerned, pretty successful weekend.
00:27:47.220
Pretty good. Where to get to where we go to get National Pulse. You guys are on it all day long.
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Yeah, we've got a particularly busy morning this morning. The National Pulse dot com forward slash
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I think the first two segments teed up the turbulence we have ahead of us. I think gold's
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The 25 is going to be 10 times worth, but they're going to prove my point. You're going to have back-to-back
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years with $2 trillion minimum deficits. That's another $4 trillion on the balance sheet of the
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we're already going to have two to two and a half this fiscal year, and you've already approved and
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be running on one that's two, two and a half for the next. So another four trillion. So we almost have
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35, we have 34 and a half trillion right now heading to 35, because it's a trillion dollars
00:30:49.500
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00:30:55.280
He was talking in that response the morning about the rules-based international, the post-war
00:31:02.600
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00:31:07.500
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Okay, we've got the Robin Voss recall. They got the signatures for that. We've got this Irish
00:31:26.980
situation. It's not a mini Brexit, but it's Brexit adjacent. We're going to get to all that
00:31:32.700
in a little while. We've got the TikTok situation, the budget this week, Eli Crane joins us. Of course,
00:31:38.340
Eli, you guys are working for two days and then going for another conference, although I think the
00:31:42.060
TikTok vote's supposed to be Wednesday, but before we get to that, you and Gunny Borelli, two of the
00:31:47.200
best vets I know, are really worked up about this DEI in the military, and particularly not just at the
00:31:55.240
head where you got all these horrible generals we've made and flag officers who are totally woke,
00:32:00.980
and not just the field grade officers, but how it's now down into the whole system. Walk me through
00:32:05.820
this specific case and how this teaches us lessons about the broader currents that are going through
00:32:13.040
our military today. Yeah, thanks for having me on, Steve. So a couple, maybe about a month ago,
00:32:20.660
Sonny Borelli, who's going to join us in a second, and Colonel Wendy Rogers, both state senators from
00:32:27.880
Arizona, read me into a case of a young private named Private Maranon, who's down in South Carolina.
00:32:34.840
who's being held over, and they're trying to basically process him out at a training command.
00:32:42.800
And so they asked me to go down there. I went down there. I was able to interview the private. I was
00:32:47.780
able to interview four of his peers, and then I interviewed the colonel down there and also the
00:32:53.380
general in the chain of command. And then I interviewed the private one more time before I left. And what I
00:32:59.240
found was that it seems to me like the thing that this private is guilty of is being a patriot,
00:33:07.280
a conservative Christian who's opinionated, whose worldview doesn't align with the woke,
00:33:14.380
DEI-saturated worldview of the armed services. You know, I looked through this case, Steve.
00:33:21.740
Steve. Basically, they're trying to make this kid out to be a white supremacist, racist. He's not even
00:33:27.940
white. He's from Peru. He's an immigrant who just wanted to serve his country. Now, what I can tell you
00:33:33.620
about him, Steve, is he does stand out a little bit. He's an older private. I think he's about 32,
00:33:38.260
33 years old. He's married. He has a kid. He wanted to serve his country. And he's the type of young man
00:33:44.540
that he has a little bit more maturity. So when he sees some of the nonsense, you know, he doesn't keep
00:33:49.880
his mouth shut about it. He'll say something about it. And I think that's his that's his biggest crime.
00:33:53.940
But the army's trying to process him out. When I looked at through the packet and the accusations
00:33:59.660
against him, it was interesting, Steve, because many of the accusations that I read all had the same
00:34:05.700
date and timestamp on it. You know, it was I think it was 640, you know, p.m. right the day right before
00:34:13.460
graduation, the day before he was going to walk the line and graduate. It was family day. His his mom was
00:34:19.420
flying in from Peru. His wife was flying in from Vegas. The kid didn't even know he wasn't going
00:34:24.660
to graduate. And, you know, when I looked through a lot of I mean, that smelled of a railroad job to
00:34:30.900
me. And after talking to the kid, I know Sonny's talked to him and many other retired, you know,
00:34:37.440
colonels and veterans have talked to this young man. We see somebody that could be an asset to the
00:34:42.760
military, somebody that could be an asset to the army. But like I said, is victim to armed forces
00:34:54.900
Gunny Borrelli, tell us about your involvement in this. What are your thoughts on this situation?
00:35:01.280
Well, I first met this man, gosh, a year ago before he even joined the army. And, you know,
00:35:07.780
he's from Lake Abasu, so he's my constituent. So he reached out to me in November because it started
00:35:15.100
like in October. And they literally had this this man on restriction that like it's like
00:35:20.760
Representative Crain said they wouldn't let him graduate with this platoon and they held him
00:35:25.760
over. And they had him literally because he's not in a training command anymore and he doesn't have
00:35:30.960
a barracks. They literally had him sleeping on a cot for two and a half months going on three months
00:35:37.420
in the in a basketball gym and they eating MREs. I mean, they wouldn't even let this guy go to hot
00:35:44.360
get hot shallots and mess off. So he reached out to me. And of course, I reached out to a retired
00:35:49.860
Master Sergeant Jack Donut because he's Army and he knows Army and I'm a Marine. So I reached out to
00:35:55.160
him. I said, this doesn't smell right. So he did some checking for me, got me in touch with Colonel,
00:35:59.860
Lieutenant Colonel Pete Chambers. And then, of course, we got in touch with Colonel Jenkins.
00:36:05.000
And then, of course, then we had to get this man, a lawyer, Major Wilson. He's a retired
00:36:10.060
Army major. He was also a JAG officer. And so we had to get him an attorney because here he is
00:36:17.320
sitting around doing nothing unrestricted, literally restricted to the barracks or excuse me,
00:36:22.460
the gym on a cot. I mean, that's all fine, good training, but this is beyond that. So they,
00:36:28.980
his wife was pregnant, ready to have a baby. They wouldn't let him go home on leave. Major Wilson
00:36:33.700
had to get involved. He could go home on leave, see his son being born. And he went back to the
00:36:39.320
base, hoping that this thing would blow over and this would just get on with it. But they're trying
00:36:42.940
to separate him out on EO violations. Now, this is what the EO violation started with. Because his
00:36:49.680
screensaver on his cell phone, okay, had a picture, the same identical picture that is the official
00:36:57.940
picture when President Trump was in office, the same photograph that sat in every command deck
00:37:03.880
and the entire armed forces, plus every federal building, the same identical picture. It's his
00:37:09.140
screensaver. So a black female trainee sees this picture and immediately says, Trump's a racist.
00:37:15.560
And he says, no, he's not. Well, then you support Trump. You're a racist. So now that started the
00:37:20.520
ball rolling when you're a racist. And then, of course, when a openly gay recruit made advances on him,
00:37:27.300
he says, I'm married. Leave me alone. I'm straight. I'm a Christian. I don't believe
00:37:31.720
in that. So next thing you know, he's a homophobe. Well, the drill sergeant, who's a Hispanic female
00:37:36.620
from East L.A., zeroes in on this guy. And, you know, why are you married to a white girl? And,
00:37:45.080
I mean, there's such crazy stuff like that. And, of course, he brags that he's married to a black
00:37:49.940
man. Well, congratulations. This is the problem we have here, okay? As a retired Marine gunnery sergeant,
00:37:56.360
okay, as senior staff and CEO, you don't let your, especially recruits, you don't let your
00:38:01.620
subordinates know about your personal life. And you definitely don't give them your personal opinion
00:38:06.820
about, you know, politics or anything like that. You just stick to training. And if you make a mistake,
00:38:12.980
you correct it on the spot. You don't wait two months and then the day before you're graduating,
00:38:19.560
you get three privates in a room and say, everybody fill out this statement and this is what I want you to
00:38:24.400
say. These recruits are going to say what the drill sergeants tell them to say because they're
00:38:28.220
intimidated. So this is the kind of garbage. So the next thing you know, he's a white supremacist,
00:38:33.140
he's a homophobe, and, you know, this garbage, and they're trying to, you know, out and kick him out.
00:38:42.440
Hang on, hang on. Okay, hang on for one second. Hang on for a second. Crane, Eli, you went and talked to
00:38:47.500
the command. You talked to the two guys in the chain of command that run the deal.
00:38:50.760
I take it. I take it. This is Fort Jackson. Sounds to me like Fort Jackson, right?
00:38:55.320
So what's, what's the deal? You talked to them. They know they got a problem there because they
00:38:59.300
got a problem. Do they know they have a problem or admit they, they have a problem. The private
00:39:03.080
doesn't have a problem. They got a problem. Do they know that and fess up to it?
00:39:07.400
Yeah. They said that they know that there's holes in the story, but they said there's still
00:39:10.700
investigations going on. Unfortunately, I was told last week that the investigation would be
00:39:15.840
wrapped up around Wednesday, Thursday at the latest and a decision would be made. And here
00:39:21.840
we are Monday morning. There's no wrap up of the investigation that I'm aware of. There's
00:39:26.460
no decision being made. And more importantly, this private isn't being moved on to his next
00:39:30.780
command so that he can serve this country. And Steve, I want to tell you something. One
00:39:35.160
of the things that was, you know, very indicative of this whole situation to me was when I talked
00:39:39.820
to four of his peers. Okay. I talked to four of his peers that spend all day, every day
00:39:44.620
with this young man. And only one of them was white, Steve. The other three were not. And
00:39:49.400
I asked him, is the private racist? No. Does he treat anybody differently because of the
00:39:54.600
color of his skin? No. What's, what's the deal with him? He's opinionated. Okay. That doesn't
00:40:00.460
just, you know, that doesn't qualify having this separating this young man and kicking him
00:40:05.200
out. I also asked all four of them, Hey, do you think that this guy's being railroaded?
00:40:09.600
All four of them said yes. So that told me right there after talking to his peers, this
00:40:14.620
chain of command does have a problem. And that's why I went down there. That's why I asked you
00:40:19.120
if I could come on your show and alert the American people to what's going on with this individual
00:40:23.920
case. But more importantly, what's going on systematically within the bigger department
00:40:29.100
of defense in our military. This is, this is systemic. This is why the army and the military
00:40:34.440
and the Navy, all of it, it's all messed up right now because you got, when I was in, you
00:40:38.180
never, this stuff was not even, you didn't talk about anything like this. You could not,
00:40:42.320
not even part of the program. Get on with the business at hand. Right. Well, where do
00:40:46.420
you think this leads? I mean, Steve, where do you think this leads? What do you think this
00:40:50.320
is going to lead to when many of our adversaries who are very dangerous and don't care about
00:40:55.180
any of this stuff and all their care to, all they care about is preparation and lethality.
00:41:00.580
What do you think this leads to? You know what it leads to. A military that leads to us getting
00:41:05.680
our tails with a military that can't fight or a conflict. Exactly. So what is a command
00:41:11.420
understand that they have a problem and the investigation should be a den. I assume that
00:41:15.440
we're going to start a congressional investigation down there and hopefully goes all the way up
00:41:19.060
through army training command, but it ought to include the Navy, the Marine Corps, air force,
00:41:23.220
all of it. This thing is, this is systemic. This private's just one small example of what's
00:41:28.440
out there. Am I too far off based on that, Congressman Crane? No, you're not, Steve. And
00:41:33.320
I told him, I said, if, you know, it's like, look, you need to move this young man onto his
00:41:38.780
next training command. And if he's as bad as you say he is, then we all know what's going to happen
00:41:43.800
at his next training command. But I said, there's so many holes in this story and all these accusations
00:41:48.880
that you do have a problem on your hand. And if I leave here, if I leave this base and I believe
00:41:54.120
that you're railroading this kid and me and my, me and my friends up here and Sonny Borelli's and
00:41:59.480
the Wendy Rogers of the worlds and Colonel Jenkins, there's a bunch of us that are, have eyes on this
00:42:04.060
story, have talked to this young man and are convinced that he's being railroaded. So yes,
00:42:09.040
the army does have a problem on its hand and we're going to get really loud about it.
00:42:15.120
Hey, or a second, uh, Kaiser, we're going to hold you over. Uh, Gunny, we got about a minute,
00:42:18.880
any closing thoughts you've got in this situation? Cause we're on war room is on officially on it now,
00:42:23.620
sir. Good. I reached out to the representative, go start to get this thing started with their
00:42:28.760
congressional investigation and talk to get with the command. They were withholding this man's,
00:42:33.560
uh, process for citizenship, by the way, here's an immigrant, joins the army, wants to become a
00:42:39.480
citizen. He went to the training. They wouldn't let him take the test. He finally, Major Wilson got
00:42:44.840
involved in that. I mean, Colonel Jenkins, he finally takes the test and the company commander was
00:42:49.200
withholding the paperwork for him to get his final story in, which, you know, thankfully he
00:42:53.500
got sworn in as a U S citizen last Friday. They wouldn't, they're withholding this man's mail
00:42:59.780
for God's sake. They wouldn't let him go to church. We'll go to go to the PX. They're still taking
00:43:04.280
away his cell phone. He's no longer in training. They're just holding him. And literally this is
00:43:09.740
flat out beyond just normal hazing. They're withholding his mail, which is a federal crime.
00:43:15.380
This is, this is not, this is, this is not hazing. This is not hazing. This is a struggle. The
00:43:21.380
Mal, this is Red Guard, uh, Mal, uh, a struggle session. Uh, Sonny, uh, Gunny, what is your social
00:43:28.300
media? Where do people get you? Well, um, I'm not worried about me. You know, they, do you want to
00:43:34.100
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00:43:39.160
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is only going to get much worse. It's just not this one incident. By the way, Eli had to bounce
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for votes. They're getting organized. They're actually, they're back and actually working
00:46:01.720
on a Monday. Normally that's a flying day. They're back on a Monday working because they're going to
00:46:05.940
leave on Wednesday and have a conference. So they got a lot to get done. One is the TikTok vote and
00:46:10.240
Brian Costello is going to be here in a second. This is systemic. It's in the Navy. It's in the
00:46:15.860
Marine Corps. It's in the Air Force. It may be less in some branches than others, but the Army's got a
00:46:22.580
big problem. You hear this complaint constantly. You should be focused on war fighting and they're
00:46:27.960
not. They've turned the Army into, they've turned the military into now a social experiment,
00:46:35.520
social engineering. And you can see right there, DEI infects it all the way down. They were
00:46:41.060
supposed to take it all. Remember all the woken weaponized come out of the budget. I don't think
00:46:44.920
so. All of it still independent. They took a little bit on the margins. That's why it's so outrageous
00:46:50.840
about this budget passing and not throwing down. But, but it's, you have to, I think I put something
00:46:55.560
on Getter today. One of the news reports, you have to come to the realization, the majority of
00:47:01.260
House members, of folks you vote for, the majority of House members don't want to have significant
00:47:07.600
cuts in the budget. They just don't. They don't. Hurtling towards this financial crisis, they just
00:47:13.000
don't. Most of them don't want to take the woken weaponized out because it's just too hard. And
00:47:19.200
really, I said, most of them are not that really serious about shutting the border. It's a lot of lip
00:47:22.860
service, but when it comes to action, there's not a lot. So we're going to get Eli back on. I can tell
00:47:29.020
Eli is uncertain on the Wednesday vote of what his vote's going to be. He told me what his vote
00:47:34.540
was going to be on TikTok, but he had to bounce. But he's still sorting it out. I mean, he's an
00:47:37.980
anti-CCP guy, obviously. But there are some, you know, there are some issues out there. We admit
00:47:43.820
that. It's not as strong as President Trump. President Trump's, I think in 18 or 19, was
00:47:48.420
perfect. This was a shut the whole thing down because it's the single most powerful information
00:47:54.560
warfare weapon that the CCP has in the United States, indoctrining the kids. This is why the
00:48:00.680
22 election was so close, didn't hit the polls, was that. Brian Costello joins us. Brian, I realize
00:48:07.240
it's also commercial, going to be used for commercial, I mean, anti-American commercial
00:48:12.000
reasons, but stick to TikTok as an information warfare platform with all the characters involved
00:48:18.180
here, particularly the guys at Sequoia Capitol and other people that are CCP, either allies or
00:48:23.900
adjacent allies, sir. Yeah, Steve. So, you know, people don't know this, but the predecessor,
00:48:30.020
so TikTok is owned by ByteDance, right? And it has two other products, a product called Do
00:48:35.140
Yan, which is a short form video and a product called Tao Tao, which Tao Tao was the first ByteDance
00:48:42.020
product. And it's in China and it's basically TikTok, but for news. So what it does is it looks
00:48:48.800
at how long you read an article and then it starts to serve you more content based on how
00:48:53.800
long you read it. So the Chinese Communist Party loved this, right? Because they could insert
00:49:00.140
content and propaganda in front of people in China using artificial intelligence based on how long
00:49:06.700
they watch things. So they could re-indoctrinate people, right? If all of a sudden you're reading
00:49:11.220
a lot of articles about America, they could shift your focus gradually over time. TikTok used that
00:49:18.800
underlying artificial intelligence technology and in 2017 bought an American app called Musical.ly,
00:49:25.960
which was a dance app. So this is when you used to hear about TikTok is dance. It's obviously,
00:49:30.520
it's on 170 million phones now. It's controlled by the Chinese.
00:49:36.760
Hold it, hold it, hold it, 175, hold it, hang on. It's 170 million phones in the United States,
00:49:42.600
170 million phones in the United States and it's an important demographic. It's not, you know,
00:49:46.800
people over 80 on it, right? It's a much, you know, so it has virtually 100% penetration
00:49:53.040
in the younger demographics, right? And so the real issue here isn't even where the data sits.
00:50:01.020
It isn't who owns the shares of the company. It's the fact that there's an algorithm used that can
00:50:08.320
influence people. And that algorithm can be used to influence people for commerce. Like Sheen blew up,
00:50:13.840
you know, the discount Chinese retailer that's destroying, you know, Nordstrom's and TGX and
00:50:20.280
Marshall's and Elizabeth Warren's district and all these companies. Sheen blew up because of TikTok,
00:50:25.680
right? They, this is a tool for them to promote national champion companies, drive discourse in
00:50:31.000
the US and influence our elections for pro-China candidates. Like the, I'm not sure how this can even
00:50:37.300
be solved by changing who owns the shares, right? And Rubio, Senator Rubio put out a video last night,
00:50:45.540
which was very good on like, listen, the issue is this algorithm who controls the source code and
00:50:50.740
who has access to it. And this is when Trump banned it in the administration. This is where it blew up,
00:50:57.360
right? If China passed a law to not allow the algorithm tech to be transferred to anybody in the
00:51:04.880
US, the Chinese government. Yeah, look, President Trump's first position is the correct position.
00:51:12.780
The one today is not perfect, but it's a start. We got to get something before election day. This is,
00:51:17.240
for a great home, this is the one that was, we used to show the videos of young Christian girls and
00:51:22.560
Jewish girls that were now converting to Islam. We're talking about converting to Islam because they
00:51:26.740
were reading the, the Quran was a feminist text and, and, and this is what influenced. This is a,
00:51:32.560
this is built to be an information war platform. And it's the most sophisticated one out there.
00:51:39.160
Is there any, so yes, you want to go back to President Trump's original position, but you've
00:51:44.780
got to start with something. You've got to start with at least breaking up because there, there is a
00:51:48.560
good odds that the CCP won't agree to that, that they won't agree to this at all and let that out,
00:51:53.100
let even part of the algorithm go to US buyers and it may get shut down. Am I incorrect on that,
00:51:58.860
Brian? Listen, my, my initial BS detector went up on this thing, Steve, because, because of a couple
00:52:04.460
things like Neil Shen controls this company for the Chinese government. And anybody who's watched
00:52:08.600
the show knows we've covered, uh, Neil Shen with a national security council went in and separated
00:52:13.780
him from Sequoia, right? He, he runs ByteDance, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy put out a video of,
00:52:20.460
uh, you know, how we need to look at the larger picture and how Airbnb was sharing Chinese with
00:52:25.480
government. I, you know, I tweeted on that pictures of Shen with Airbnb, with the propaganda czar in
00:52:31.000
2015 and an article from the 2015 times where it's Neil Shen. So it's the guy who is head of the
00:52:37.140
ByteDance board is the one who facilitates US companies sharing data with the Chinese government,
00:52:43.540
right? Uh, and, and, and nobody seems to want to... Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, hang out for one
00:52:49.760
second. We're going to take a 90 second break. We're going to come back. Jim Rickards is going to
00:52:53.860
join us. Brian Costello. We're going to join us. We're going to drill down a little more
00:52:58.080
because this all gets back also to Sequoia Capitol and Neil Shen. Make sure we're talking
00:53:02.980
about advances in artificial intelligence. That's one of the things underlying the platform
00:53:06.920
of, uh, TikTok that makes it so powerful. Now you have on the, uh, the home title lock side,
00:53:13.240
you've got the combination of cyber and advanced artificial intelligence tools that are making it
00:53:19.000
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