Episode 3618： Will Democrats Pay The Price For The Crumbling Of America
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Summary
On today's show, Steve talks about the Cohen hearing, the House Freedom Caucus, the Ukraine crisis, and much more. Plus, the latest in the Biden/Biden saga, and a possible deal between the Northern Star and the Islamic star.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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and the tale of two cities, the firestorm yesterday in the courtroom.
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Not just the chopping up of Michael Cohen by Todd Blanche, the president's lawyer,
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but also the show of force of the House Freedom Caucus under Congressman Bob Good and others up there, Jeff Clark.
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Then that total fiasco last night as they try to do the markup.
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You see how the Democrats, everything's a misdirection play.
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They're trying to get the attention off of Biden in this classified documents.
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But there's something that stinks to high heaven there.
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But a lot of this is to cover, hey, this Ukraine situation, we're getting sucked in day by day by day,
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as we've warned, and somebody in the House is going to have to step up.
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They're in the appropriations process, and this is why we're not going to agree to a CR.
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You heard the other day, love Chip Roy, not going to happen.
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They need the single-subject appropriations bill.
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I don't know why these committees are not going nonstop.
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Midnight on the 30th, and hey, my argument is shut down the frickin' government.
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And they're going to say, oh, you're only 30 days away from election.
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and you've got to get hands on the defense contractors, the military-industrial complex,
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There's a massive effort underway to make this Vietnam number two, Iraq number two, Afghanistan number two.
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New York Times reported today NATO is prepared and preparing to put 150,000,
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You can say they're technical, they're for training, and what they say,
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oh, we just want to take the training in Poland and kind of move it up to the front.
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And it's coming because they don't have the 500,000 Ukrainian young men and women are not there
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But if Kharkiv, the number two city in Ukraine, falls, all hell is going to break loose over there.
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And you're going to hear they're going to make a big push.
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The warmongers are going to make a big push to get American combat troops.
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Remember, the 101st Airborne has got a brigade right there in Romania, right on the border.
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And that's why we want to hear what Mike Johnson heard in these classified documents.
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Our classified hearings that he says changed his mind, yet he won't come forward with what it is.
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They don't want you to leave until you give them a deal.
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You either got an Islamic star, eight-point Islamic star flying over the capital of Minnesota.
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They're not going to the lords of easy money on all the banks and commercial banks,
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And they're certainly not going to the sociopathic tech overlords in Silicon Valley.
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Keep fighting, and we'll talk to you before you see the president today.
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I'll be live, Steve, from the event with the president here.
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The president is right now at his son's graduation.
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Later this afternoon, he's going to fly to Minnesota for an event.
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We're going to do a pregame on that on Real America's Voice.
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Scott, I've got a lot to talk about the economy, the inflation.
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But, you know, we're sitting here, and of course the deep state forced,
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because President Trump wanted to kind of have some sort of rapprochement with the Russians
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to keep him out of some alliance with the Mullahs in Tehran
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and the Chinese Communist Party criminal syndicate in Beijing.
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Of course, our betters forced that alliance together, that axis of evil.
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One day Jamie Dimon's saying, yeah, I agree with Scott Besson.
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We're driving over a cliff on the debt, and we've got to take it seriously.
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Today he's saying we need full engagement with the Chinese Communist Party.
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I thought we were in the process of trying to smartly decouple.
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Look, Jamie Dimon has a fiduciary duty to the shareholders of J.P. Morgan,
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and he's done a fantastic job, the best performance of any large bank
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But part of that is being flexible with your moral beliefs versus what's good for business.
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And what is good for the business of J.P. Morgan is maintaining robust connectivity
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to the People's Republic of China, and that can only be done by making nice noises to the CCP.
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And it's easy to say that we have a debt crackup coming in the U.S.
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And I'll point out J.P. Morgan is also a primary dealer.
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So the more debt that gets sold, the more they benefit.
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But this full engagement with China is—it's not where history is.
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And from what I can tell, it's not even where the Biden administration is.
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They've done a gigantic Me Too in terms of tariffs.
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Joe Biden, who was criticizing Donald Trump's tariffs on China,
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has now kept all of them on and is trying to buy votes in Michigan by throwing on these EV tariffs.
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Talk to me about—you're the first person—I'm going to tie that to the producer price index and the CPI that came out this week.
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But I believe you're the first person of any heft that came out and you said,
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hey, we've got to start thinking of this deficit as percentage of GDP.
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Now, you've got to worry about obviously kicking into a deep recession or worse by, you know, two radical cuts.
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We're all for a balanced budget, but we say cuts got to be down and downloaded.
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We know now from people in the House that they have no intention of finishing the budget by September 30th.
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And there's all kind of kicking around about how to do that.
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And we're very concerned about handcuffing the next administration, President Trump's next administration, his second term,
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but particularly his financial team with—they want to, quote-unquote, clear the deck,
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so it's basically lock-in spending for the next couple of years.
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And we've heard that the top-line number is really no different than what they've just passed and maybe even increased.
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What is your thoughts about what would be a logical—you would say a logical percentage of deficit?
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Because you can't get to the war room balanced budget.
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But what would be the percentage that you think should be a target?
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But at least we can start making progress to that because right now I think we're going in the opposite direction.
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Yeah, well, so, Steve, the Biden administration has created this very unstable equilibrium.
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And, you know, they pushed up asset prices for the top 20 percent of Americans.
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And they've done that with this massive borrowing, you know, 6, 7 percent of GDP.
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And then to make things worse, they're financing it on the short end.
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You know, like if your viewers and listeners want to think about a household balance sheet, you know, if you have a long-term 30-year mortgage, you know what your debt payments are and the rate's locked in.
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If you have a bunch of credit card debt, then the credit card debt is variable and it's high cost.
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And Janet Yellen has taken long-term fixed debt and she's turned it into overnight credit card debt.
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So, you know, you've got high deficit, high borrowings, and then the high borrowings are moved to the short end, which are the most expensive.
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And, you know, to get to your question, you know, I think that if President Trump did not create these deficits, I have said, you know, on your show, on other media, I've come out from behind my desk
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and my, you know, nice, quiet life here in the investment business, that I think 2024, 2025 is our last chance for a growth strategy out of this debt.
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You know, if we look, the Steve Moore, Larry Kudlow, Art Laffer model of a growth strategy, it still works, but barely, with the level of debt we have.
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So, what we could shoot for over a Trump 2.0 is to try to cut the deficit in half.
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And I think markets would respond very favorably to that.
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I think it can be done, but, you know, it's going to be difficult to land this plane.
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You know, this is landing a plane on an aircraft carrier in a Cat 2 or Cat 3 hurricane.
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And it's not going to be easy, but it can be done.
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And I think if there is a plan for debt reduction, then the interest rate market will respond well to that, and you can start getting rate cuts.
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The reason we can't get rate cuts now is because we're running these big deficits.
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You know, in Grand Prix race cars, you drive with both feet, so you can take the curve really fast.
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You have one foot on the accelerator, the other foot on the gas, and, you know, you're wearing down the engine.
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And that's what we're doing now is Federal Reserve has slammed on the brakes, which is killing the bottom 50 percent of wage earners.
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The Biden administration is hitting the accelerator, and I've never really seen anything like this.
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And, you know, this is also the reason we have this inflation.
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I want to hold you through the break because I want to go back to this.
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When you say that this is the last shot, the traditional has been – this is when President Trump came into office in 17 and got the tax cut and the deregulation.
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They gave us the monster year of 19 with low inflation, low interest rates, low unemployment, wages increasing with blue-collar workers, wages increasing with non-college graduates.
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It was, quite frankly, as close as you can get to nirvana, I think it was also 3.5 percent growth in the face of Janet Yellen's Fed, which I agreed with, actually restricting – doing quantitative tightening on the balance sheet.
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People forget she took almost a trillion dollars off.
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The headwind that created in Trump's economic plan still had growth.
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Scott Besson, I keep laying out this about the year of decision.
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I don't know if this is the most important election in American history, but I can tell
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you the next 12 months are one of the most important years in American history.
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You had the run-up to the election, and we're about to go in the middle of a constitutional
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crisis now over the exertion of executive privilege on these tapes of Biden.
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You've got the run-up to 5 November and everything they're going to try to do to steal it.
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You've got from 5 November to the 20th of January, Inauguration Day, where Mark Elias
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and Jamie Raskin are going to be at it nonstop, if not to steal it from Trump, then at least
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to make it seem like his legitimacy is questioned in front of the world and the nation.
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And then you've got the 100 days, which would end probably last week.
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But the first 100 days of President Trump's second term, which is all important, because
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The single most important thing he's got to do with all the geopolitics, the invasion of
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the southern border has got to be stopped, all of it, but if you don't get this financial
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situation, a grip on it and directionally point it downrange, we're not going to turn
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And you've said, hey, look, we've got about a year, and you've got to get this right.
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If you're going to do the classic American kind of Reagan-esque growth strategy to try
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to grow your way out of this, if you don't do that, you're going to be at best Japan.
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You could be looking at lost decades, and I know you warn us that, hey, Japan is a lot
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better than what could happen, because you could be Europe.
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So, Steve, as I mentioned, I am very concerned, and the Trump financial team needs to come out
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And I was working on a letter to my investors that we're going to send out in the next couple
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And I was talking about, to me, one of the great challenges over the next year, two, three
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years, is going to be this continued disengagement between the U.S. economy and the Chinese economy,
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you know, a lot of it for security reasons, others for maybe the bad behavior by the Chinese
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And, you know, I was sitting and I was thinking, how do we do this?
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How do we keep our economy going because they've become so interlinked?
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And then it just hit me like a freight train, is we can't do anything unless we get our own
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house in order, is this high national debt and deficits are a national security issue.
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So this year, for the first time, interest on the debt is going to be more than we spend
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We are going to spend $1.1 trillion, with a T, in interest on the debt, and our defense
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The interest on the debt, if there are no interest rate cuts this year, will mechanically
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So we have to get this under control to, in the name of national security, you know, forget
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I just want to make for the audience to connect two dots here.
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You said in the last segment that Yellen's made a conscious decision to finance short 90
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day bills, et cetera, essentially using a credit card type financing instead of a mortgage,
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she's not going to, she's not selling 10s and 30s.
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That is one of the reasons that you're going to get to 1.1 and go to 1.6.
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The Biden regime has consciously, to try to hide things, gone short, and that's one of the
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reasons that you're seeing the explosion, because of the gross face amount of it, but also the
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conscious decisions they're doing in trying to finance this, sir.
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Steve, you're 100% correct that this is, everything with the Biden administration has been a decision
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The great inflation of 21, 22 that we're still suffering through, that was a choice.
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To blow out the deficits and, you know, spend to constrict the supply side via enhanced regulation,
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To move the debt profile to the short end is a choice.
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And I would send all of your audience to the Wall Street Journal today.
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There's a fantastic piece by a fellow from the Manhattan Institute, Dan Katz, and he explains in great detail,
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in very understandable terms, exactly what Professor Yellen has done, and, you know, it is shocking.
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So, you know, we think of financial markets, are you fragile or anti-fragile or robust in the financial markets?
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And as we go into this great power conflict with China, we have been made more fragile.
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So we have to really start working to become more anti-fragile, more robust, and, you know, that's going to require terming out a trillion dollars of debt probably next year.
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Unbelievable. Scott, we've got to bounce. Looking forward to having you on next week.
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The big story in Bloomberg today, we'll push out to all the audience about you and Paulson and some others on the short list for President Trump's Secretary of the Treasury.
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Where do people go to get your thinking, your thoughts, all your writings?
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Good. And, you know, Steve, I'll say about that article, there are no service positions in the administration if Donald Trump doesn't win.
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So we should all focus on that before we worry about musical chairs.
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Anyone who wants to contact me, I'd love to hear from you. It's I-R at K-E-Y-S-Q dot com.
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I also, the other, there's also another small mistake. You've been a supporter of President Trump for many, many years.
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I've known you for a long time, and you've been, and people don't understand, you're a MAGA.
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You did not, Scott Bessett was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
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You're from, I think, near Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Is that it, sir?
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Yeah, we don't have a lot of silver spoons in Little River, South Carolina. A lot of shrimp boats.
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Little River. A scholarship kid to Yale, and you've done good, but you're a deplorable at heart.
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Scott Bessett, thank you so much. Honored to have you on here.
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Thank you. It's always a good hour. We got Scott Bessett, I got Josh Hammer, I got Natalie Winters, three of the most powerful thinkers around.
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Josh Hammer, I think this is a sequel to your piece the other day. Walk me through this.
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Quite powerful about, you've talked about a judiciary system in meltdown, like the kangaroo courts.
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You've talked about us becoming like a banana republic. Your piece today is, is anybody going to be held accountable for this? Your thoughts?
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Yeah, Steve, look, I mean, like many of us, I have been sounding the alarm on the law affair for a very long time now.
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I mean, after Alvin Bragg dropped his first indictment over a year ago now, I wrote a column called The Point of No Return,
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saying that this was a crossing of the Rubicon as a moment, an inflection point in American history that we will never get back.
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And then last week I was on with you talking about just the outrageous nature, specifically of the New York City trial,
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where Donald Trump is chained down to this courtroom, this dingy 13th, 14th floor, whatever it is, courtroom for the five days of the working week,
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instead of getting out there to host these massive rallies in Michigan, Wisconsin, all the swing states there.
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But this week, and you're right, it is something of a sequel to what I wrote last week.
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I wanted to zoom out a little bit and make sure that we're on the same page about what the Democrat lawfare complex, as I call it,
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what they have been trying to accomplish here for the past year now.
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So Alvin Bragg was first out of the gate last year, and then it wasn't very long after that that you had the federal indictments from Jack Smith.
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You had the classified documents case here in Florida, where I live, and then in Washington, D.C., you had the Crown Jewel case,
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That was the case that the entire DNC was probably most excited for.
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And then you had the Fonny Willis case in Georgia, which, from my perspective, at that time when they dropped it,
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I thought it was legally meritless, but I actually was the most scared about it from just the possible ramifications.
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Are they going to get Brad Roffensperger and Kemp on the stands?
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At this point now, in May 2024, this thing is a joke.
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This has turned into a pathetic, disreputable, burning dumpster fire of an excuse of a lawfare election interference campaign.
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And at this point, I think we need to start asking some questions.
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Obviously, we don't want to start counting the chickens before they hatch.
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We'll see what happens in the New York City case.
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Michael Cohen had a disastrous day on the witness stand yesterday.
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At this point, the prosecution's case is totally falling apart.
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They're going to have a very brief window of opportunity on Monday on redirect to try to reestablish credibility for their so-called star witness.
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But at this point, I think it's probably time for some of us to start asking, is there going to be accountability like this?
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Or like COVID, is it going to be just another accountability-free mass crisis that was foisted upon a citizenry with republic-ending tactics?
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As my Article 3 project colleague Mike Davis likes to say, that is what they have done with this series of prosecutions here.
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91 criminal accounts trying to prosecute and incarcerate their political opposition because they know that their senile octogenarian of a candidate cannot possibly make it across the finish line absent these extraordinary efforts.
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So is there going to be accountability for it, Steve?
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And the good news, the good news is that the polling right now is actually really good.
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This New York Times-Siena College poll that we saw earlier this week has Trump ahead in five of the six leading swing states.
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He was down by one in Michigan, well within the margin of error.
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Michigan, who knows what's going to happen there with all the radical jihadi sympathizers in Dearborn and the war in Gaza.
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But as of now, it's looking like we're on track for some accountability.
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But I want our side to just start talking about accountability because we cannot possibly overstate the destruction that the Democrat lawfare complex has foisted on our republic in the past year.
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This is one of the reasons Josh Hammer is one of the most important public intellectuals.
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I'm going to hold you, Josh, to the commercial break because I want to ask you.
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We just heard what Treasury is doing to our financial structure.
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We just read this morning, New York Times, about Ukraine and combat troops.
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Should there be accountability in more than just the judicial and legal system?
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These members of Congress saying, we're here to support him and the American legal system
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It is a hard thing to have people in very high office committing crimes in this country.
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There's a reason that sitting presidents can't get prosecuted.
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But when instead you've got a political party saying the American legal system should be gotten
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rid of because it's corrupt and the people involved in it are corrupt and bad and evil
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and persecuting you and me, that is something totally different that is corrosive to the
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Are you saying get rid of the American legal system or putting the blowtorch to the ones
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I mean, it pains me greatly that this is what has happened to the American legal system and
00:31:03.520
The remedy, though, the remedy is for the right to be clear-eyed about what we face.
00:31:07.940
It is to be clear-eyed about the fact that they are trotting out these bogus prosecutions
00:31:12.080
trying to incarcerate their political opposition.
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And it's time for our side, Steve, to wake up and try to respond in kind, to fight fire with
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fire within the confines of prudence and reason.
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Put another way, we need to start getting more aggressive prosecutions on our own side,
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some, you know, enterprising entrepreneurial district attorneys down in the Texas panhandle
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or places like that who are going to try and get Hunter Biden and Anthony Fauci and people
00:31:39.320
Try to do some fire with fire just to try to rebalance the pendulum here.
00:31:42.680
So in order to try to move on, we first have to be very clear about what it is that we are
00:31:47.960
But the broader point here, the broader point is, you know, it's not just the judicial system.
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The rule of law right now in this country is in existential danger.
00:31:57.540
But what your previous guest was saying about what's happening to the national debt and the
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deficits every year, you know, just yesterday, there was actually a very unfortunate ruling
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of the U.S. Supreme Court when it came to the CFBP, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
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They upheld the constitutional structure of this by a seven to two count.
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I was kind of shocked to see that very powerful dissent by Sam Alito.
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You know, it's this bogus left wing agency that's essentially drawing on unlimited funding
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They're coming at us essentially from all directions.
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And that's and that's even to hold aside the uniparty hubris and conceit when it comes
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to foreign policy and the Ukraine boondoggle hundreds of billions of dollars into this
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unwinnable war against the world's largest nuclear hegemon, the Russian Federation, utterly
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So we have a massive, massive problem on our own side about just seeing clearly what it
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You know, Steve, they say that if you're ever going to make inroads, if you're ever going
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to claw back from the abyss, you have to be clear eyed about the threat.
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And that is what I'm trying to get our own side to do is just to wake up.
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Do you think we're even if we get clear out, do you think there's enough guts and gumption
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and stick to it and grit on the right to hold people accountable, whether it was in Treasury
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of what they did, the military industrial complex and the Pentagon of what they did, the national
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security, you know, the Michael Benz with their hammer and every day national security and
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They're prepared to take the tough steps that you have to take to hold people accountable.
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So, yeah, I mean, there definitely are some right.
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So there was one thing about the Tea Party movement that I actually liked a lot.
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It had way too strong of a libertarian tendency.
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That's really, really not the direction when it comes to nationalist populism that we need to
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go in many ways. But one thing that the Tea Party era of activists on the right that I think
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really got right, Steve, was getting really involved at the grassroots level in primaries
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and trying to hold congressmen accountable when it comes to political primary.
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I very rarely hear about Republicans and conservative grassroots activists today talk about the
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importance of trying to primary weak and feckless incumbents, those who are trying to sell out
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the American taxpayer when it comes to offshore manufacturing jobs to the Chinese Communist Party,
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when it comes to trying to fund this endless, unwinnable war in Ukraine, the Treasury,
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We need to hold our own elected officials accountable.
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And that's one thing that I think a prior generation of conservative activists actually
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So maybe that's one thing that we could try to bring back, frankly, from the not-so-distant
00:34:38.740
Josh, where do people – you're one of our leading public intellectuals.
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Where do people get all your writings and podcasts?
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So on Twitter, Josh underscore Hammer, Instagram, Josh B. Hammer, my show,
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The Josh Hammer Show, and also America on Trial with Josh Hammer.
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I have two shows everywhere you get your podcasts, and then I write a weekly syndicated column
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on Newsweek and a whole host of other right-of-center websites as well.
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You see, Josh is like – he's a recovering lawyer, but he's like the Pacino in Godfather 3.
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He just gets out and then they pull him back in, right, Josh Hammer?
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Okay, my co-host now joins us, Natalie Winters.
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Natalie, before – I keep saying it, this is the most important year.
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I don't know if it's the most important election.
00:35:22.020
The next 12 months, broken down into three sections, the run-up to the 5 November, then
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what they're going to try to do between 5 November and Inauguration Day, and then the
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These people, they understand – this is why I wanted you to follow, Josh, about holding
00:35:45.680
And they understand when we win, we will hold them accountable.
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They're going to pull everything – you haven't seen anything yet of what they're going to
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try to do, the amount of money, the interference, all of us.
00:36:00.520
Well, look, it's not just the most important election in American history.
00:36:03.560
I think you could say it's really in world history, and I think part of the reason is
00:36:07.360
that so many of these global agendas, whether it's the United Nations, the World Economic
00:36:11.840
Forum, the Chinese Communist Party, but they're kind of ambitious global plans, right, whether
00:36:16.300
it's the Sustainable Development Goals made in China 2030, are set to culminate in the year
00:36:23.640
So if President Trump were to get back into office, that is a major, major impediment,
00:36:28.020
right, to the rollout of so many of those initiatives.
00:36:30.400
And I think it's why you see kind of the George Soros-type donors of the world really
00:36:37.280
You're talking tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to control the outcome
00:36:42.440
And one of the ways that they're doing it, they just announced yesterday – now, there
00:36:46.020
are a lot of buried leads to this story – but there's a group called Power the Polls.
00:36:50.720
They always like to come up with these innocuous-sounding names.
00:36:55.540
I guess when you have tens of millions of dollars, you can hire all the consultants.
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You have the Donnie Deutsches of the world, right?
00:37:00.620
They have – they don't have the aesthetics of the war room, like, you know, but they
00:37:06.920
But they do have collaborative efforts ongoing with state election offices to select poll
00:37:14.340
So this group, Power the Polls, which if you dig through, not only is it through kind of
00:37:19.200
a Russian nesting doll situation, a project of the New Venture Fund, which is linked to
00:37:24.360
It's funded by George Soros, even Politico admits in an article that they were doing about
00:37:29.180
it, that it was basically set up by the Open Society Foundations.
00:37:33.080
Of course, that's George Soros' hub of left-wing activism and political donations.
00:37:37.940
But this group just announced yesterday – you know when they say bipartisan, that's when
00:37:42.540
the red flags go off – but a new committee that ahead of the 2024 election is going to
00:37:49.760
Now, the people who are leading this effort, I kid you not –
00:37:52.920
And this is the counter to us and the precinct strategy and Lara Trump saying we're recruiting
00:37:59.280
And the mules, the people who are sitting outside the ballot boxes and got –
00:38:04.520
Remember, Pamela Carlin sent the letter to the DOJ saying that those people were –
00:38:10.900
No, but the person who leads this new Soros-backed effort, the co-chair of the advisory board is
00:38:17.640
Representative Adam Kinzinger and some Hollywood elites, Kerry Washington.
00:38:22.860
But I think the most concerning part about this story is that Brad Raffensperger, Gabe
00:38:28.040
Sterling – those are, of course, infamous names from the 2020 election in addition to
00:38:33.760
The Nevada Secretary of State is involved in the effort too, and three or four people from
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organizations that have also been funded by George Soros.
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But you're saying these Quislings, Raffensperger being a perfect example, Gabe Sterling,
00:38:45.540
Kinzinger, these Quislings are giving their – are putting their name to this so that the
00:38:51.900
Soros radical left can say, hey, you got bipartisan, it's just not the hardcore cult
00:38:57.200
Yeah, there are no pro-Trump people on it, but they love to be able to spin it as bipartisan
00:39:03.900
But I think when you take a step back, when you see all these polls coming out, how President
00:39:06.780
Trump is dominating – make no mistake, he is, right, obviously producing a much more
00:39:13.820
But that is a very naive, I think, belief to think that because President Trump is polling
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better, that that is going to translate on election day.
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I think 95 percent of this audience will say the exact same thing.
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We understand the message, and people are awakening to this, that people are being red-pilled.
00:39:32.740
Well, I think what they learned from 2016 is that the key factor in deciding elections
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now in the kind of social media age is really how much you can mobilize and have voters actually
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And I think that the way that they are sort of trying to reverse engineer, or at least go
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up against that, is they're making the actual political battle not so much on the issue of
00:39:57.440
But that the actual politicking is happening on the election administration level.
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In other words, from the poll workers to the machines to the way that your votes are
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There's a distinction between votes and ballots.
00:40:10.240
And this is just another form of lawfare, right?
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And you know they always have backup plans and contingency plans because they know if President
00:40:21.320
So even though there's, of course, the ongoing cases against Trump, they have backup plans.
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If lawfare fails, right, they got the backup plan to steal it.
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Source is a good proxy because, look, money can buy you smart people.
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He was the first guy to really get into the Secretary's estate.
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He's going to get ahead of it by actually putting more money in it.
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These are, these are, you may not like these people and particularly not like what they
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stand for, but they're quite smart and cunning.
00:40:58.980
Well, the number one thing that I think the war room posse that, you know, people who watch
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the show always say is that the left works in lockstep, right?
00:41:09.040
You can see it in the messages that they promote.
00:41:10.740
And that's because when you take a step back, it's not that there's actual ideological cohesion
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It's that they're all funded by the same people, right?
00:41:17.960
And that's, I think, Tides Foundation, Soros, Arabella, what's going on on these college
00:41:25.220
You're saying that people are putting America on fire or actually in back of financing that
00:41:31.080
I mean, the Tides Foundation funded some of the people who are on this new, you know,
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The Tides Foundation, of course, being behind Black Lives Matter, though, I guess they're
00:41:42.720
So I think you don't really need to look at these groups or these individual efforts
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They all work together to, I think, with the goal that they espouse when they're protesting,
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you know, on the lawn in Colombia, death to America.
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You don't have to go to Iran to hear them say that.
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These are people who I think in collusion with foreign governments who don't like the
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But the reason why the left always has a cohesive viewpoint and they march in lockstep is because
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they're all being bankrolled by the same people.
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You've got to do a lot of prep work to get ready for it.
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But you've promised me you're going to stick around.
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I don't think I've ever seen anything like it in the house.
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I think they're still triggered because they played war room on the house floor.
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I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling.
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If someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleach-blonde, bad-built,
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butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct?
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Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words.
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I'm trying to find clarification on what quality.
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Look, you guys earlier literally just said that.
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I did it first, so you don't want to talk about it.
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Natalie, professionally, you cover a lot of hearings.
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You cover the background, talk to staff in the investigations.
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Last night, on a very serious topic, it was an absolute throwdown.
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Reminds me of the Chinese Communist Party Politburo.
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We were like, I think that the way that Representative Crockett, I think that's her name, says that
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MTG has a, quote, butch body, she's saying it like it's a pejorative thing.
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I think GLAAD and all of the homosexual organizations should be—
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So there's maybe some issues on the intersection.
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But I also think, too, all jokes aside, although there are a lot of jokes that could be made
00:46:49.440
from that clip, I think it shows the lack of not even just respect for anybody that is
00:46:55.760
Congress, but I think they knew yesterday's hearing was serious, right?
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Going after Merrick Garland, that's sort of like a kingpin in the swamp, right?
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So they want to do anything they can to make the hearing unserious, and that's why we're
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So your point, to make it unserious, does this play into the Ray Dalios of the world?
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Do you think this is the performative nature of the Democrats, particularly in the House?
00:47:18.520
Well, I think the most common refrain that you heard against President Trump, which is,
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I mean, pretty hypocritical, and I would say projection at its finest, was that, you know,
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And empirically, the record of the Biden regime suggests otherwise.
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I'd say that video is almost as cringe as Antony Blinken playing the guitar in Kiev, maybe
00:47:42.120
They, they, it's funny, I think they get off on the idea of being, you know, intellectually
00:47:47.520
They've graduated from, you know, the Harvard Kennedy School.
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But in reality, you look at who funds all these organizations.
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It's far left organizations that, frankly, probably love to watch videos like that.
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Because when the Chinese Communist Party sees that, you think the People's Liberation
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So you're going to follow me at five, but it's going to be pretty explosive.
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Natalie, Natalie's in, going to go get ready for it.
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