An all-out feud has erupted within President-elect Trump's MAGA base over visas for skilled immigrant workers. This comes after Trump allies Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy expressed their support for the program last week, arguing that high-skilled foreign workers are essential for the U.S. tech industry. That had many in the MAGA world furious, claiming the pair were contradicting Trump's immigration policies and his America First philosophy for their own personal benefit.
00:05:46.800And for those out there, and there's a small portion right now in the poll that's being done by Sean Spicer, there's almost 100,000 people have voted.
00:05:54.460And our position has two-thirds of the vote.
00:06:05.820The H-1B visa program is a total and complete scam to destroy the American worker.
00:06:13.080Because, naturally, capitalists always want to – they always want to go to the lowest-cost production.
00:06:18.960They always want to pay the cheapest wages.
00:06:21.360That's just the nature of the – that's just the nature of the – and I'm not saying that is wrong.
00:06:26.400What I'm saying is that when you have an America First movement and that the American citizen is everything and the sovereign will of the American people is everything,
00:06:34.860and you have to predicate everything and frame it around what is best for the American citizen, then your perspective changes.
00:06:43.820We have called, and they have not shown us one.
00:06:46.920I have not seen one example of the millions – and these are millions.
00:06:54.180And if they had examples, they'd be rubbing your nose in.
00:06:56.560It's like Rachel Maddow on the 2020 loss.
00:06:58.480If they had an example, if they had tens of thousands of examples, they would rub your nose in it about, oh, these guys have a different skill set, American workers.
00:07:12.220This is just about a compensation in indentured servants, basically quasi-slave labor, in our own country by the enlightened oligarchs of Silicon Valley.
00:07:25.360Remember, they don't believe in the nation-state, what they believe in kind of a network effect.
00:07:30.900This is like the Borgias or the Medici's from Renaissance Italy, kind of these nation-states where Silicon Valley and these oligarchs are the feudal lords,
00:07:41.720are the, as Ben Harnwell says, sociopathic overlords.
00:07:46.840And they've got a system that the politicians, the political class are fine with because the donations roll in.
00:07:52.600That's what we say, everybody, this weekend, oh, this is an op.
00:07:55.780This is, can't we all just get together and have a group hug?
00:07:58.320No, we're not going to get together and have a group hug.
00:08:00.640You're either going to learn how to fight or get the hell off the battlefield and stop taking money from people saying you're fighting.
00:08:23.800Remember, the private equity is your money, the pension funds, your pension funds, your tax dollars.
00:08:28.940First off, they ship as many manufacturing jobs as they could possibly overseas to get closer to the slave labor of Lao Bajing.
00:08:36.600Old hundred names, the Chinese common man and woman who works as basically slave labor.
00:08:44.720The ones they couldn't do, they're going to import that here, and they're going to use this kind of, oh, we only want skilled immigrant workers.
00:08:51.680They're not more skilled than American tech workers.
00:09:41.500What did I say at the New York Young Republicans Club interview with the free press 10 days before this thing went off?
00:09:49.280I said, hey, the reason the black and Hispanic community has no representation, and I'm not Quoto's guy, I'm just saying, give them a shot.
00:10:00.500Hell, I went to a land-grant university.
00:10:03.960There's no, there's, it's all South Asians.
00:11:06.440If Elon Musk's number one thing was Doge for America First American citizens, this would be at the top of something to take off, to take it down.
00:11:23.860If we look at Doge and weighing out over the defense budget, it's not to protect the defense budget.
00:11:27.500It's to start to deconstruct the defense budget.
00:11:29.680Because if we used economic warfare and, hey, gave our mortal enemies, the Chinese Communist Party, no access to capital in the United States and no access to our technology, which they steal.
00:12:01.960This is central to how they gutted the middle class in this country.
00:12:07.300And we haven't fought these battles over years and years and years to allow American citizens of every race, ethnicity, religion be gutted by the sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley.
00:12:21.000So, no, David Sachs and Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk, no, you're complete collapse in your thing.
00:16:29.280All this big talk, they're going to fight forever, and this is the most important thing, and this is so important.
00:16:34.940They will fight to the death, and they'll show us warfare.
00:16:38.080You know, when he put that out, F you in the face, you know, Elon, F you in the face, and I'm going to fight in methodologies you haven't even conceived, and we're going to do all this.
00:16:47.220And I put up there, I said, hey, Child Protective Services, somebody call them, get a wellness check on this guy, this toddler.
00:17:57.220We finally have African-American men and Hispanic men.
00:18:00.800They're prepared to listen to this and see if they understand it.
00:18:06.060And in understanding, understand their self-interest, their country's self-interest, their family's self-interest.
00:18:11.560They build a coalition like 1932 so we can govern for 50 years.
00:18:16.360And the first thing you're going to do is go, oh, you're racist.
00:18:19.020Dude, as I said this in France, I used this thing.
00:18:22.780I said once they can't beat you on the facts, and the facts would be show us the hundreds of thousands of skilled workers you just had to have that American citizens couldn't provide.
00:18:34.320When they do that and they go to racism, you're winning.
00:19:25.440And instead of, Elon, you saying we're racist and you're going to get us root and stem out of the Republican Party, dude, not on your best day.
00:20:31.340Where were you when you tapped along year after year a program to gut the middle class and bring in cheaper labor that couldn't do the job any better?
00:20:53.720The workers that are here on this should be deported as soon as the $15 million that we're going to start deporting on the afternoon of the 20th of January.
00:22:52.260The economic model had two parts to it, three parts to it.
00:22:55.840Allow flooding of the zone of unskilled workers to drive down the wages of unskilled workers, low-skilled workers.
00:23:03.240Two, ship as many factories and high-value manufacturing jobs overseas with private equity and venture capital overseas, particularly at the time, to China.
00:23:16.540Two, allow Beijing, the common man and woman, the decent, hardworking common woman in China, be used as a slave, an industrial slave, at one-tenth or one-one-hundredth of the salary.
00:23:28.160And labor protections and environmental protections so that they could basically export their excess capacity of the state-owned industries, the crony capitalism owned and operated by the Chinese Communist Party, the worst dictatorship in the history of the world.
00:23:44.260And I include Stalin and I include Hitler in that.
00:23:48.140Those two were junior varsity compared to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:23:51.160They only killed 200 million, murdered 200 million of their people, and by the way, murdered another 400 million abortions.
00:23:58.160And last but not least, let's just do it here in the good old United States of America.
00:24:05.000We don't have to move it since most of these are algorithms, don't allow factories.
00:24:08.340Let's just say, let's just say the Americans, what'd you say, Elon?
00:24:12.020You said they're too retarded and lazy, too retarded and lazy.
00:24:17.280And Vivek, you know, we got to have spelling bee culture, not jock culture.
00:29:50.260So, you have an approval rate of about 99.9 percent.
00:29:53.080Grant, this is an environment where the Department of Justice has fined, you know,
00:29:57.340Cognizant and Infosys and some of these other sort of H-1B mills almost.
00:30:02.400They contract these guys, these H-1B visa workers, out to big tech companies.
00:30:07.780They fined them, but they haven't shut them down.
00:30:09.880So, this 99.9 percent approval rate is, I think, somewhat illuminating in terms of, you know, what the scam is here.
00:30:17.340The median income of these workers, according to the government data, is $118,000 a year.
00:30:22.640The Silicon Valley Index for 2024 shows that workers in big tech earn around a median income of $189,000 a year.
00:30:31.360That's, you know, roughly a $70,000 difference.
00:30:34.800One of the more interesting data points is that while, you know, David Sachs and Musk and a lot of these guys are claiming that we need to, you know,
00:30:40.700double or triple the amount of H-1B workers we have, in the fiscal year 2022, there were actually 442,000 approved H-1B workers.
00:30:50.420And that actually decreased into the fiscal year 2023, which suggests that demand for H-1B workers has actually gone down,
00:30:57.920that there isn't this labor shortage that they claim that there is, and that a lot of these companies actually don't need all these workers.
00:31:03.640But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, they're always going to want to get it because that's a 30, they're getting labor 30% cheaper, not just at the hours.
00:31:12.020I want to go back to, but here's the central point.
00:31:14.020I don't want to talk about the golf course pros and the English teachers here.
00:31:18.480Yeah, that's all, but that's all noise.
00:32:24.460Most of these workers have either a bachelor's degree or some degree of technical training.
00:32:28.300But they, they aren't the, the, you know, they're not like what you would see with, with an O-1 visa.
00:32:32.420These aren't the, you know, the top of the top, the, the, the, the sort of cream de la creme of, of, of geniuses or anything.
00:32:39.300These are mostly just people that are relatively equivalent to your average U.S. worker within the tech industry that has a bachelor's degree that knows some degree of coding or has, you know, gone through kind of a bootstrap kind of training program.
00:32:50.500And that's pretty much the extent of it.
00:32:53.400They just get paid, you know, $70,000 less.
00:32:55.860Yeah, they get paid to, they get paid 30% less and they work in, in hell hole conditions because they're indentured servants.
00:33:05.260We've allowed, we're allowing this to happen in the sociopathic overlords have no problem having indentured servants that are taking the jobs of people that are citizens of this country.
00:33:16.580And her families have fought for this country and built this country and who's on their shoulders, uh, we're less the full faith and credit of this country.
00:34:22.360But the fact is, it was designed to displace American workers that companies felt were expensive, undeserving, and expendable.
00:34:31.560And they, and the proof is in the pudding here because when they file what they call a labor condition application, an LCA for a job they want a foreigner for, unlike the H-2A, the ag visa, the H-2B, the seasonal worker visa, they don't have to in any way demonstrate that they couldn't find an American for that position.
00:34:54.500Second thing, we, it's not a meritocracy.
00:34:59.140So the 85,000 plus another, uh, roughly another 30,000 that come in every year on the H-1B visa, it's a lottery.
00:35:11.900So someone who graduates, let's say they're at India Institute of Technology, they get a PhD, they have as much chance of getting an H-1B as someone with an associate's or a B-tech degree from Bangalore Community College.
00:35:33.380It's, as you mentioned before, Steve, it's supply and demand.
00:35:38.000And again, they, the corporations, when they got together and created this program with the corporatocracy, our government, they knew darn well that this program was being, would be used to displace Americans.
00:35:51.260And it has been, companies like Disney, Northeast Utilities, Abbott Labs, SoCal Edison, hundreds of others.
00:36:00.860So it's illegal to replace an American one-to-one with a foreigner.
00:36:05.380That would be, well, country of origin discrimination.
00:36:08.020So what they do is they contract with H-1B visa-dependent Indian, typically Indian, sometimes it's my old alma mater, Ernst & Young, is as big an abuser as this, as anyone, consulting firms that will outsource whole departments, like IT departments.
00:36:26.560And what we've seen for two decades was, like at Disney, a woman was called in, she'd been with them for 12 years, database programmer, highly skilled.
00:36:39.740She thought she was going to get promoted when they called her in, but they called her in a letter and they were going to fire her.
00:36:45.960And she was going to have to, to get a sovereign, she was going to have to train her H-1B visa replacement.
00:37:27.540And if government contracts, it's insane.
00:37:29.780Our teachers at VMI, Virginia Military Institute, I want to focus on the tech, because this is the heart of it.
00:37:36.260Are these high-skilled foreign workers, are there any skill set that they're bringing that makes them more skilled than American workers, sir?
00:37:57.440Like at Northeast Utilities, they did that whole replacement thing, but then they had to get rid of that consulting firm because they didn't have the skilled talent, ultimately.
00:39:26.860And my point is if they were demonstrably – hang on, Kevin, hang on.
00:39:32.040If they could show us by the people they hired that these were higher-skilled workers or skilled immigrants were higher than American citizens, you can have the debate and we can have the argument.
00:39:59.880They will sacrifice themselves and the $60,000 and come over here and live, tend to a house, and work nonstop to go through the golden door and eventually get a green card and eventually get chain migration.
00:40:15.340And the indentured servant is a big aspect.
00:40:17.720But at the cost of American society – go ahead, sir.
00:40:21.560The indentured aspect is – it's often downplayed because, yes, they are cheaper.
00:40:27.700But that indentured aspect that you mentioned, Steve, is really important.
00:40:32.360For instance, I was talking to a guy who had about 80 reports to him at Cisco.
00:40:38.600And he said, well, Kev, at Cisco, we pay our folks the same.
00:40:43.060But what they get out of it is a worker that is really compliant.
00:40:48.620So if you're here on an H-1B, you're here for three years and then you can extend for three years.
00:40:53.580Now, baked into the cake with this visa, where it's not like any other employment visa, and you mentioned this briefly earlier, Steve, it's a dual intent.
00:41:04.620So if you come on an H-1B, your employer can decide to, yes or no, give you a pathway to citizenship by sponsoring you for a green card.
00:42:02.060Back on the total and complete scam of H-1B visas.
00:42:12.680We're still waiting for the counter-argument that shows that these were high-skilled foreign workers that were more skilled than citizens of this country.
00:42:32.280And for you saying, a couple of people saying, oh, well, you got, you know, we just have to have a group hug and, you know, don't distract.
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