Bannon's War Room - Episode 4158： Elon's Indentured Servants

00:00:00.000 An all-out feud has erupted within President-elect Trump's MAGA base over visas for skilled immigrant workers.

00:00:08.460 Trump is apparently now expressing some support for the H-1B visa program after he had criticized it in the past.

00:00:16.940 This comes after Trump allies Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy expressed their support for the program last week,

00:00:23.340 arguing that high-skilled foreign workers are essential for the U.S. tech industry.

00:00:28.660 That had many in MAGA world furious, claiming the pair were contradicting Trump's immigration policies

00:00:35.960 and his America First philosophy for their own personal benefit.

00:00:41.460 It's an inevitability that the hyper-populist, non-college-educated part of Trump's base,

00:00:47.500 which is the plurality at the minimum of a majority if you take certain arguments,

00:00:51.420 were always going to be preconditioned to believe that the word immigration or the word visa

00:00:57.600 always in their minds means brown people bad.

00:01:01.040 And so they have this belief that, you know, the guy with the GED and his fake Oakley sunglasses,

00:01:08.400 his goatee and his pickup truck, you know, the universal Twitter bro that you see in every avatar on Twitter,

00:01:15.900 that guy's thinking to himself,

00:01:16.900 oh, I could have been the senior software designer at Google if only it weren't for DEI or immigration. 0.61

00:01:22.240 It's absurd, but now you see these people that rely on that as a core part of their business,

00:01:27.400 just like Donald Trump does also, by the way, for service staff at Mar-a-Lago and other resorts.

00:01:33.300 You see this conflict.

00:01:34.440 It's going to eventually, you know, the hyper-populists,

00:01:37.620 they don't really care about the more sophisticated arguments about H-1B or O-1 visas.

00:01:44.220 They care around people bad.

00:01:45.720 That's their whole driving conditioning they've had from Fox for years.

00:01:51.160 I mean, Steve Bannon called Elon Musk a child on Elon Musk's own social media platform over the weekend.

00:01:59.220 That's where things are right now on the MAGA right.

00:02:02.200 Well, I mean, look, on one level, there's a power struggle going on inside of MAGA,

00:02:06.460 but on another level, this is a substantive dispute,

00:02:12.340 which is inevitable in a populist movement that is now dominated by billionaire tech bro elitists,

00:02:19.040 and that's going to show up in a lot of issues.

00:02:21.820 Look, a lot of the MAGA base has been motivated by the fear of immigrants

00:02:26.820 and resentment against immigrants, foreigners,

00:02:29.920 taking jobs that they think that Americans should have. 0.73

00:02:32.420 And here comes Elon Musk and saying that, yeah, there are not enough Americans. 0.98

00:02:37.400 Americans are, and he endorsed the word retarded, 0.97

00:02:39.800 are just not smart enough or not skilled enough to take all these high-tech jobs. 0.99

00:02:45.280 We need to import foreigners like me.

00:02:48.620 Well, clearly, that's going to cause tension in MAGA.

00:02:52.800 This is a campaign that was based upon fear of foreigners coming in

00:02:59.720 and taking your communities, your jobs, your women, all of those things.

00:03:04.600 And so these latecomers, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy,

00:03:09.460 really have very different value systems.

00:03:13.120 I think they have different agendas than the MAGA base.

00:03:16.660 So this is going to play out over a long period of time.

00:03:19.640 Right now, to no one's surprise, Donald Trump is siding with the billionaire tech bros.

00:03:27.400 But the base is not going to change its position on immigration.

00:03:33.060 And sometimes ideas have consequences, but so does racial demagoguery.

00:03:38.700 And I think what was really extraordinary was watching how shocked Elon Musk

00:03:43.080 and some of his buddies were to find out that many of their new MAGA allies

00:03:46.480 are, in fact, pretty racist when it comes to Indian immigrants.

00:03:51.800 And it seemed like they were shocked, like, 0.92

00:03:53.600 wait, we were supposed to be afraid of those immigrants. 0.98

00:03:56.260 Now you're coming for our immigrants? 1.00

00:03:58.140 We didn't mean that.

00:04:02.320 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:04:07.220 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:04:11.160 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:04:16.800 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:04:18.760 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:04:20.180 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:04:21.900 but you're not going to stop it.

00:04:22.820 It's going to happen.

00:04:24.080 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:04:27.480 MAGA media.

00:04:28.840 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:04:34.060 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:04:37.400 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:04:44.320 War Room.

00:04:45.260 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:04:47.320 Bannon.

00:04:54.040 It's Monday, 30 December in the year of our Lord, 2024.

00:04:57.520 For a weekend of a firefight and much needed.

00:05:03.340 And we've got a lot of stuff to get to today.

00:05:04.800 We're going to get to Speaker Johnson.

00:05:06.280 We're going to talk about this.

00:05:08.040 The bomb that was dropped by the Secretary of Treasury on the debt.

00:05:13.080 Right?

00:05:13.500 New developments in Ukraine.

00:05:15.120 All of it.

00:05:15.560 But first, we have to deal with the business at hand.

00:05:17.380 And I want to set the table for this.

00:05:19.760 Elon Musk has already surrendered.

00:05:21.700 Already surrendered.

00:05:22.280 If you look at the arc of his, you know, this is from a guy who's going to go to war in ways we can't imagine.

00:05:28.620 And this is the most important thing.

00:05:29.820 We will fight to the death.

00:05:31.460 All this.

00:05:32.540 He and Sachs, you know, immediately with just a little pressure.

00:05:36.340 Oh, yeah.

00:05:36.900 It needs reforming.

00:05:37.860 And we're just talking about the 0.001% we got to bring in.

00:05:41.140 And you heard there in the opening, the skilled immigrant workers, the high skilled foreign workers.

00:05:45.520 Let me repeat this.

00:05:46.800 And for those out there, and there's a small portion right now in the poll that's being done by Sean Spicer, there's almost 100,000 people have voted.

00:05:54.460 And our position has two-thirds of the vote.

00:05:57.660 And the other position has one-third.

00:05:59.100 And the only reason it has one-third is that folks haven't looked under the hood here.

00:06:03.700 So let me repeat this.

00:06:05.820 The H-1B visa program is a total and complete scam to destroy the American worker. 0.98

00:06:13.080 Because, naturally, capitalists always want to – they always want to go to the lowest-cost production.

00:06:18.960 They always want to pay the cheapest wages.

00:06:21.360 That's just the nature of the – that's just the nature of the – and I'm not saying that is wrong.

00:06:26.400 What I'm saying is that when you have an America First movement and that the American citizen is everything and the sovereign will of the American people is everything,

00:06:34.860 and you have to predicate everything and frame it around what is best for the American citizen, then your perspective changes.

00:06:43.820 We have called, and they have not shown us one.

00:06:46.920 I have not seen one example of the millions – and these are millions.

00:06:51.900 I have not seen one example.

00:06:54.180 And if they had examples, they'd be rubbing your nose in.

00:06:56.560 It's like Rachel Maddow on the 2020 loss.

00:06:58.480 If they had an example, if they had tens of thousands of examples, they would rub your nose in it about, oh, these guys have a different skill set, American workers.

00:07:08.120 That is a bald-faced lie.

00:07:12.220 This is just about a compensation in indentured servants, basically quasi-slave labor, in our own country by the enlightened oligarchs of Silicon Valley.

00:07:23.960 This is techno-feudalism.

00:07:25.360 Remember, they don't believe in the nation-state, what they believe in kind of a network effect.

00:07:30.900 This is like the Borgias or the Medici's from Renaissance Italy, kind of these nation-states where Silicon Valley and these oligarchs are the feudal lords,

00:07:41.720 are the, as Ben Harnwell says, sociopathic overlords.

00:07:46.840 And they've got a system that the politicians, the political class are fine with because the donations roll in.

00:07:52.600 That's what we say, everybody, this weekend, oh, this is an op.

00:07:55.780 This is, can't we all just get together and have a group hug?

00:07:58.320 No, we're not going to get together and have a group hug.

00:08:00.640 You're either going to learn how to fight or get the hell off the battlefield and stop taking money from people saying you're fighting.

00:08:07.320 This is the core.

00:08:08.820 $15 million they let in for low-skilled workers.

00:08:11.760 Here, they've been running this scam for decades for medium and high-skilled workers.

00:08:19.060 The American citizen is under assault from multiple fronts.

00:08:22.520 Number one, the private equity.

00:08:23.800 Remember, the private equity is your money, the pension funds, your pension funds, your tax dollars.

00:08:28.940 First off, they ship as many manufacturing jobs as they could possibly overseas to get closer to the slave labor of Lao Bajing. 0.95

00:08:36.600 Old hundred names, the Chinese common man and woman who works as basically slave labor. 1.00

00:08:44.720 The ones they couldn't do, they're going to import that here, and they're going to use this kind of, oh, we only want skilled immigrant workers. 0.99

00:08:51.680 They're not more skilled than American tech workers.

00:08:56.140 They're not more skilled.

00:08:57.860 Show me.

00:08:58.760 Show me.

00:08:59.540 Show me.

00:09:00.140 Let's see the resumes.

00:09:02.120 Let's see what they did.

00:09:03.820 Let's compare that.

00:09:04.720 All week, we've been pleading.

00:09:07.480 Please show me.

00:09:08.920 If they had a position, they wouldn't have folded so quickly.

00:09:13.660 Sacks and Elon, oh, yeah, well, we're only talking about, you know, from fighting to the death.

00:09:20.100 From fighting to the death, they went to, yes, the system needs reform.

00:09:24.820 It needs reform.

00:09:26.460 Yes, we only want the 0.01%.

00:09:28.320 No, no, stop, stop.

00:09:30.080 And you're going to tap us along and think, we're not going to forget this.

00:09:32.380 It's a total and complete scam to destroy the American worker and to import foreign labor. 0.98

00:09:39.380 And this is the opposite of racism.

00:09:41.500 What did I say at the New York Young Republicans Club interview with the free press 10 days before this thing went off?

00:09:49.280 I said, hey, the reason the black and Hispanic community has no representation, and I'm not Quoto's guy, I'm just saying, give them a shot.

00:10:00.500 Hell, I went to a land-grant university. 0.91

00:10:03.960 There's no, there's, it's all South Asians. 1.00

00:10:06.720 That's not racist.

00:10:07.740 But American citizens should have the ability to get in those schools first.

00:10:13.900 Your families built this country.

00:10:16.020 I'm talking about African Americans, Hispanics, white working class.

00:10:21.660 Take your pick.

00:10:25.100 That's how you get the shot to the high-value-added tech jobs that haven't been shipped overseas.

00:10:29.940 This was always a compensation.

00:10:31.980 This is one of the reasons their margins are so high.

00:10:33.740 They bring indentured servants over here. 0.99

00:10:39.820 They house them.

00:10:40.660 Their lifestyle is terrible because they got this thing.

00:10:43.340 You're through the golden door.

00:10:44.380 Five years will give you a green card and chain migration.

00:10:46.720 Boom.

00:10:47.200 How's that?

00:10:48.060 So you're going to be an indentured servant.

00:10:50.580 Just like many of our great-great-grandparents did coming in the 19th century.

00:10:56.600 Before we broke indentured servitude.

00:10:59.260 And we're going to break it here.

00:11:00.560 Here's our position.

00:11:01.500 You're not going to reform it because we're going to get it shut down, all of it.

00:11:05.220 It should be the top.

00:11:06.440 If Elon Musk's number one thing was Doge for America First American citizens, this would be at the top of something to take off, to take it down.

00:11:16.200 Why is it not?

00:11:17.100 Because I believe his agenda is how to become the first trillionaire.

00:11:20.220 I'm just saying.

00:11:21.800 I'm just saying.

00:11:23.860 If we look at Doge and weighing out over the defense budget, it's not to protect the defense budget.

00:11:27.500 It's to start to deconstruct the defense budget.

00:11:29.680 Because if we used economic warfare and, hey, gave our mortal enemies, the Chinese Communist Party, no access to capital in the United States and no access to our technology, which they steal. 0.96

00:11:40.740 I don't know.

00:11:41.140 They say $600 billion a year.

00:11:42.740 I'm just quoting what studies show.

00:11:44.240 If you stop that, maybe they wouldn't be a peer competitor in the East China Sea and the South China Sea.

00:11:53.460 Let me repeat this.

00:11:55.800 And some people, there have been some people, and as I put up stuff, I said, Steve, we have to have a group hug.

00:12:00.260 You can't.

00:12:00.740 No, no.

00:12:01.960 This is central to how they gutted the middle class in this country.

00:12:07.300 And we haven't fought these battles over years and years and years to allow American citizens of every race, ethnicity, religion be gutted by the sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley.

00:12:21.000 So, no, David Sachs and Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk, no, you're complete collapse in your thing.

00:12:27.340 Oh, we're just trying to reform it.

00:12:29.360 We're just trying to have a conversation.

00:12:30.600 We're going to reform it.

00:12:31.000 No, there's no reformation.

00:12:32.020 No reform.

00:12:33.380 We want it gone.

00:12:34.940 We demand that it's gone.

00:12:36.420 And we're going to fight for this.

00:12:37.540 And not just gone.

00:12:39.560 I've got another alternative.

00:12:40.820 We want reparations for the tech workers that you stole their lives.

00:12:45.700 You stole their lives.

00:12:48.880 These are people that played by the rules.

00:12:51.020 This is what you have a civic society for.

00:12:55.200 These are the men and women, and mostly men, that went to the engineering schools.

00:12:59.640 Hey, I went to a land-grade university that's known as a great engineering school.

00:13:02.700 You know why I didn't go to the engineering department?

00:13:04.120 It was too much work at that time.

00:13:06.240 It was just too much work.

00:13:07.280 It was too hard.

00:13:08.600 They started with, like, five-hour calculus at 8 o'clock in the morning.

00:13:11.420 I got up there and said, no, I came out of military prep school.

00:13:13.380 I said, you know what I think I want to do?

00:13:14.520 I want to go out every night and drink beer, right, and be crazy.

00:13:18.160 I don't think I'm going to be ready for 8 o'clock in the morning, five days a week,

00:13:21.160 for five-hour calculus where they go through all the math I learned in the first two days.

00:13:24.540 It's too hard.

00:13:25.720 But there were guys that went there every day and went and grinded through these engineering schools.

00:13:32.280 And what happened to them? 0.98

00:13:34.620 You're telling me at 35 and 40 years old you're taught you're trash,

00:13:38.060 and they're importing foreign workers at a third of the salary? 0.92

00:13:44.520 Vivek, about jock culture.

00:13:48.740 We're going to end this segment with the theme song from Philip Kaufman's classic

00:13:55.400 off of Tom Wolfe's brilliant, brilliant book about the Mercury program, the right stuff.

00:14:02.220 America are the best.

00:14:03.240 This is what Make America Great Again means.

00:14:07.320 And we can do this with the citizens we have in this nation. 0.63

00:14:13.340 Disgusting, said their old high-skilled foreign workers. 1.00

00:14:16.800 You're bringing in slave labor. 0.99

00:14:17.980 And we're not going to allow it.

00:14:22.180 It's not right for those countries, and it's certainly not right for the United States of America, 0.95

00:14:27.160 and particularly the citizens of this great republic.

00:14:31.220 It is revolting. 1.00

00:14:33.480 Your hypocrisy, I find it repulsive. 1.00

00:14:39.820 Short break. 0.99

00:14:40.820 Back in a moment.

00:14:41.380 It's obvious.

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00:16:09.260 Action, action, action.

00:16:11.500 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:16:16.460 Okay.

00:16:17.140 Welcome back.

00:16:18.120 Let me just—this came from the engine room as a reminder of my rant right there.

00:16:21.620 Remember, when the enemy retreats, pursue.

00:16:26.420 You don't sit there and go, let's go to the negotiating table.

00:16:28.500 They collapse.

00:16:29.280 All this big talk, they're going to fight forever, and this is the most important thing, and this is so important.

00:16:34.940 They will fight to the death, and they'll show us warfare.

00:16:38.080 You know, when he put that out, F you in the face, you know, Elon, F you in the face, and I'm going to fight in methodologies you haven't even conceived, and we're going to do all this. 0.56

00:16:47.220 And I put up there, I said, hey, Child Protective Services, somebody call them, get a wellness check on this guy, this toddler. 0.98

00:16:55.400 Something's wrong.

00:16:56.460 And they collapse immediately.

00:16:57.640 David Sachs, Vivek Ramaswamy, and they're now looking for, oh, yeah, let's have common dialogue.

00:17:01.420 There's no common dialogue.

00:17:02.440 How about this for common dialogue?

00:17:05.800 Unconditional surrender.

00:17:08.100 We're not looking for common dialogue.

00:17:09.580 This is a scam.

00:17:11.360 We're not by skilled foreign immigrant, high-skilled foreign workers. 1.00

00:17:15.200 See how they're repeated?

00:17:16.020 High-skilled foreign workers.

00:17:18.020 That is a bald-faced lie.

00:17:20.720 Of the millions that come in here, start showing them to me.

00:17:23.860 Start showing them to me.

00:17:25.960 I want to see them.

00:17:27.900 I know we're going to have, if you let millions in, I know there's going to be hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people.

00:17:32.440 Hundreds of thousands.

00:17:33.200 They don't have one.

00:17:34.200 Not one.

00:17:35.940 Not one.

00:17:38.920 You want to sit there and accept this?

00:17:40.080 Oh, Steve, you know, we're trying to pull this together.

00:17:42.000 Do you understand?

00:17:44.100 I gave the interview with Sachs' guys.

00:17:46.240 They're good guys on podcasts.

00:17:47.580 Look, I'm not saying they're bad people.

00:17:49.620 They're just dead wrong on this.

00:17:52.080 And to throw up these things that were racist was the exact opposite.

00:17:55.000 We're building a coalition like 1932.

00:17:57.220 We finally have African-American men and Hispanic men.

00:18:00.800 They're prepared to listen to this and see if they understand it.

00:18:06.060 And in understanding, understand their self-interest, their country's self-interest, their family's self-interest.

00:18:11.560 They build a coalition like 1932 so we can govern for 50 years.

00:18:16.360 And the first thing you're going to do is go, oh, you're racist.

00:18:19.020 Dude, as I said this in France, I used this thing.

00:18:22.780 I said once they can't beat you on the facts, and the facts would be show us the hundreds of thousands of skilled workers you just had to have that American citizens couldn't provide.

00:18:34.320 When they do that and they go to racism, you're winning.

00:18:37.920 You're winning.

00:18:38.840 Have you not learned anything? 0.67

00:18:40.080 All you cucks that want to just roll over and let's go be bros and skip around? 1.00

00:18:46.960 We ain't skipping around. 0.95

00:18:48.000 We're not going to be bros.

00:18:48.900 We're fighting for the greatest resource, the greatest nation on earth has its citizens.

00:18:56.440 And you look at these people were broken.

00:19:01.980 They played by the rules.

00:19:03.220 They did everything tough.

00:19:04.560 They didn't take the easy jobs.

00:19:05.920 They took the hard jobs.

00:19:07.180 And what did they get?

00:19:08.300 They got blown out because of the system was rigged against them.

00:19:16.020 Well, we're going to unrig it.

00:19:19.200 Here's our position.

00:19:21.100 The program completely goes away.

00:19:24.640 All of it.

00:19:25.440 And instead of, Elon, you saying we're racist and you're going to get us root and stem out of the Republican Party, dude, not on your best day.

00:19:33.560 Are you kidding me?

00:19:34.580 We're going to get HB1 visas out, root and stem, and all the workers you brought in. 1.00

00:19:40.360 We want them all.

00:19:41.700 Just like we're deporting 15 million here, we want them deported out and give those jobs to American citizens today. 1.00

00:19:48.460 And we demand they get reparations.

00:19:52.440 You stole from them.

00:19:53.660 You stole their lives from them.

00:19:56.440 Don't talk to me.

00:19:57.460 Talk to these tech workers.

00:19:58.300 These people are broken.

00:20:00.400 Because they played by the rules.

00:20:02.380 It was what you want in a civic society for citizens to play by the rules and be the good householders.

00:20:10.880 Because the good householders, it underpins everything.

00:20:15.100 It underpins everything.

00:20:17.900 This is why you have the liquidity in the capital markets.

00:20:20.060 This is why you have everything.

00:20:21.300 It's the little guy.

00:20:22.440 It's the little platoons of Burke.

00:20:23.920 And where were you conservatives?

00:20:27.240 Where are you big talking conservatives?

00:20:28.880 Limited government one.

00:20:29.680 Limited government.

00:20:30.280 We want this.

00:20:30.900 We want that.

00:20:31.340 Where were you when you tapped along year after year a program to gut the middle class and bring in cheaper labor that couldn't do the job any better? 0.86

00:20:39.980 And then lie about it.

00:20:41.700 Let me repeat this.

00:20:45.180 The program from top to bottom is a scam and a con.

00:20:50.360 There is nothing in this program that should continue to exist.

00:20:53.420 Nothing.

00:20:53.720 The workers that are here on this should be deported as soon as the $15 million that we're going to start deporting on the afternoon of the 20th of January.

00:21:02.880 Deport them now.

00:21:05.040 And hire American citizens that have the same skill set.

00:21:08.820 We're not asking you to go down market because you can't show examples of the high-skilled foreign workers.

00:21:17.160 These are the coders that are going to work for a third of the salaries and work like indentured servants. 1.00

00:21:21.740 That's not American citizens. 0.89

00:21:25.000 Sorry.

00:21:27.180 And I think there needs to be massive reparations from the sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley. 0.72

00:21:34.900 So look, note one, when the enemy's in retreat, you put the bayonet on and you pursue and you pursue and you pursue until you break them.

00:21:50.300 This is not a game.

00:21:52.560 This is people's lives.

00:21:53.880 This is the direction of this country.

00:21:55.400 This is this country.

00:21:57.100 It's all there.

00:21:57.900 Just that we won on November 5th, I keep telling you, you think it's done?

00:22:01.500 Look what President Trump's got to face.

00:22:03.580 You got Janet Yellen messing with the balance sheet. 1.00

00:22:05.580 You got Ed Dowd saying, what I've been saying, this thing, they have specifically messed with the balance sheet.

00:22:10.680 So Trump comes in, he's jammed up.

00:22:13.060 You got the Russians are now looking at another offensive around curse. 0.71

00:22:16.680 And we just put another $2.5 billion so that more Ukrainians can die in the battlefield. 1.00

00:22:22.940 The Persians are heading towards a nuclear weapon. 1.00

00:22:26.680 We still got a couple of carry battle groups in the Red Sea protecting the European elites for the Suez Canal.

00:22:31.280 You got the Chinese Communist Party all set to roll on Taiwan.

00:22:36.520 Oh, by the way, you got 15 million illegal aliens. 0.92

00:22:40.140 We got to deport. 0.78

00:22:41.260 And they're talking about, I don't know, the holding stations.

00:22:43.380 You think that's going to be an easy?

00:22:44.540 Do you think we roll over here and they go, Steve, it's just visas.

00:22:48.360 It's not visas.

00:22:49.580 Wake up.

00:22:52.260 The economic model had two parts to it, three parts to it.

00:22:55.840 Allow flooding of the zone of unskilled workers to drive down the wages of unskilled workers, low-skilled workers.

00:23:03.240 Two, ship as many factories and high-value manufacturing jobs overseas with private equity and venture capital overseas, particularly at the time, to China.

00:23:16.540 Two, allow Beijing, the common man and woman, the decent, hardworking common woman in China, be used as a slave, an industrial slave, at one-tenth or one-one-hundredth of the salary.

00:23:28.160 And labor protections and environmental protections so that they could basically export their excess capacity of the state-owned industries, the crony capitalism owned and operated by the Chinese Communist Party, the worst dictatorship in the history of the world. 0.66

00:23:44.260 And I include Stalin and I include Hitler in that. 0.93

00:23:48.140 Those two were junior varsity compared to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:23:51.160 They only killed 200 million, murdered 200 million of their people, and by the way, murdered another 400 million abortions. 0.80

00:23:58.160 And last but not least, let's just do it here in the good old United States of America.

00:24:05.000 We don't have to move it since most of these are algorithms, don't allow factories. 0.70

00:24:08.340 Let's just say, let's just say the Americans, what'd you say, Elon? 0.99

00:24:12.020 You said they're too retarded and lazy, too retarded and lazy. 0.99

00:24:17.280 And Vivek, you know, we got to have spelling bee culture, not jock culture. 0.99

00:24:22.640 That's the problem. 1.00

00:24:23.520 The Americans are retarded. 1.00

00:24:24.900 The Americans are dumb. 1.00

00:24:25.840 The Americans are lazy. 1.00

00:24:28.160 Well, I beg to differ. 0.99

00:24:30.880 And this, I'm not woke.

00:24:32.080 This is not, oh, woke on the right.

00:24:35.020 These are facts.

00:24:36.820 And you can't show many facts on your side about H-1B visas.

00:24:40.300 Let me repeat this in case anyone at home is missing.

00:24:43.260 This is a total and complete scam.

00:24:46.700 And we're not looking for your surrender.

00:24:48.940 We're not looking for your negotiation.

00:24:50.300 Oh, yeah, you're right.

00:24:51.000 There are some abuses.

00:24:52.340 It's, did you know this, David?

00:24:53.480 It's been abused.

00:24:54.140 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:24:54.960 Has it been abused, Elon?

00:24:56.060 Yeah, it's been abused.

00:24:56.540 Oh, we'll reform it.

00:24:57.860 You're not going to reform it because we're going to do away.

00:24:59.720 We want to see it at the top of Doge.

00:25:01.960 If Doge is anything, put it at the top.

00:25:04.820 Complete and total elimination.

00:25:08.000 And how about this?

00:25:09.100 Throw it in.

00:25:09.640 Here's an extra. 0.95

00:25:11.400 Deport all of them now.

00:25:13.140 And let's hire people that check the top box. 0.94

00:25:17.840 Yes, I'm a citizen of the United States of America.

00:25:22.960 I want to bring in Kevin Lynn from U.S. Tech Worker and the Institute for Sound Public Policy.

00:25:29.240 Kevin, we just got a minute or so here because my rant took up a little bit.

00:25:34.160 But you were spot on.

00:25:36.080 Give me just a summary.

00:25:38.460 You were spot on.

00:25:39.360 So I'm not crazy on this topic?

00:25:44.280 No.

00:25:44.680 Let's bust some myths out here.

00:25:46.680 Number one, the H-1B visa was created in the Immigration Act of 1990 that was signed into law by George H. Bush.

00:25:57.420 It was predicated on a lie that we were going to be short some, from the 80s, that we were going to be short some 675,000 STEM workers.

00:26:08.960 And in order to head off disaster, we were going to have to import all these skilled workers.

00:26:15.760 Well, two things.

00:26:17.200 One, in a market economy, long-term labor shortages don't exist.

00:26:21.900 Why? Because workers will gravitate to where the demand is. 1.00

00:26:27.800 They'll go for the—because demand creates higher wages, better benefits, more job security.

00:26:33.120 And they did.

00:26:34.240 Americans learned to code, men and women.

00:26:37.600 There were more women working in the 80s and early 90s in computer science than there are today.

00:26:45.520 So back to the H-1B visa and the Immigration Act of 1990.

00:26:50.060 So, number one, this—

00:26:54.720 I tell you what, hang on, hang on.

00:26:55.980 Mike, Mike, hang on one second.

00:26:57.540 Hang on.

00:26:58.060 I want to give you plenty of runway to go through this.

00:27:01.200 So people know I'm just not a raving madman.

00:27:03.940 This is based on facts.

00:27:06.600 It's a total and complete scam, a con.

00:27:09.480 It must be eliminated 100%, and we need to give it a Carthaginian piece.

00:27:15.040 That's the piece we want, bros.

00:27:16.540 Tech bros, salt the earth around it. 1.00

00:27:20.040 Export—deport the foreign workers today. 0.86

00:27:23.320 Hire Americans today.

00:27:25.460 And then we'll sit down.

00:27:26.520 We will have a discussion and talk about reparations for the American worker.

00:27:30.760 Yep, that's where we are.

00:27:32.500 The R word.

00:27:34.000 You stole their future.

00:27:35.900 So we're going to try to get a little bit back.

00:27:37.920 Here in the War Room.

00:27:38.620 Short break.

00:27:39.080 We'll be right back.

00:28:09.080 Your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:28:12.860 Okay.

00:28:17.120 Kevin Lynn's going to jump back in a second.

00:28:21.040 Allison Hoon is also here.

00:28:23.320 She's going to join us.

00:28:25.600 I've got the great Will Upton.

00:28:27.740 Will was over at the Treasury Department in President Trump's first term.

00:28:31.380 And hopefully, if we're successful, Will will be somewhere in the senior position in the second term.

00:28:37.580 Will joins us.

00:28:39.200 One of the senior guys over at the National Pulse.

00:28:42.960 You've done some analysis.

00:28:45.200 So, Kane put up this report that blew everybody away over the weekend.

00:28:51.640 It turns out there may be some technical issues with the report.

00:28:54.480 And, of course, the guys are saying, oh, we just need to reform it all over that.

00:28:58.380 But it's really not that important.

00:29:00.020 Your assessment.

00:29:00.980 You've gone through this.

00:29:01.960 You've gone through the real data, Will.

00:29:03.620 And you're a numbers guy from Treasury.

00:29:05.680 Just walk me through.

00:29:06.460 I say the H-1B visa is a total and complete scam. 0.99

00:29:09.560 But I want people to know the scale of this and what we're sitting on right now.

00:29:12.680 Can you just walk us through a brief summary of your findings, sir?

00:29:15.700 Yes, yeah.

00:29:17.720 So, I pulled data from the fiscal year 2023 report from the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services.

00:29:26.140 So, they're the ones that will receive these visa applications, USCIS.

00:29:31.200 This is the most recent data we have from the government.

00:29:33.260 There were a total of a little over 386,559 requests for H-1B visas.

00:29:46.920 386,318 were approved.

00:29:50.260 So, you have an approval rate of about 99.9 percent.

00:29:53.080 Grant, this is an environment where the Department of Justice has fined, you know,

00:29:57.340 Cognizant and Infosys and some of these other sort of H-1B mills almost.

00:30:02.400 They contract these guys, these H-1B visa workers, out to big tech companies.

00:30:07.780 They fined them, but they haven't shut them down.

00:30:09.880 So, this 99.9 percent approval rate is, I think, somewhat illuminating in terms of, you know, what the scam is here.

00:30:17.340 The median income of these workers, according to the government data, is $118,000 a year.

00:30:22.640 The Silicon Valley Index for 2024 shows that workers in big tech earn around a median income of $189,000 a year.

00:30:31.360 That's, you know, roughly a $70,000 difference.

00:30:34.800 One of the more interesting data points is that while, you know, David Sachs and Musk and a lot of these guys are claiming that we need to, you know,

00:30:40.700 double or triple the amount of H-1B workers we have, in the fiscal year 2022, there were actually 442,000 approved H-1B workers.

00:30:50.420 And that actually decreased into the fiscal year 2023, which suggests that demand for H-1B workers has actually gone down,

00:30:57.920 that there isn't this labor shortage that they claim that there is, and that a lot of these companies actually don't need all these workers.

00:31:03.640 But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, they're always going to want to get it because that's a 30, they're getting labor 30% cheaper, not just at the hours.

00:31:12.020 I want to go back to, but here's the central point.

00:31:14.020 I don't want to talk about the golf course pros and the English teachers here.

00:31:18.480 Yeah, that's all, but that's all noise.

00:31:20.000 It's a, it's a huge offensive issue.

00:31:22.300 But the central beating heart of this problem is high-tech workers.

00:31:27.100 Please tell me in, in, in these 300,000, by the way, that's just the ones that are there today.

00:31:31.780 Remember, here's the con.

00:31:33.080 They come over here on this visa.

00:31:34.780 They get eventually four or five years of being an indentured server.

00:31:37.860 They get a green card, then chain migration.

00:31:40.140 There are millions, millions, millions.

00:31:44.000 This is the con.

00:31:45.040 This is the scam.

00:31:45.780 Brother, I know that David Sachs and Elon and Vivek tell me that these are, these are Einsteins.

00:31:52.500 These are all the geniuses. 0.98

00:31:54.040 Are there, and the American workers, and I quote, are too retarded and too lazy to take these jobs. 0.99

00:32:02.260 Is there, is the academic performance of these folks so blow away that we couldn't even put up American workers against them, sir?

00:32:11.480 The government data says that's, that's completely not the case.

00:32:14.280 Over a third of these workers have a bachelor's degree.

00:32:18.140 Only 22% in the fiscal year 2023 had a master's degree.

00:32:22.480 Only 8% had a PhD.

00:32:24.460 Most of these workers have either a bachelor's degree or some degree of technical training.

00:32:28.300 But they, they aren't the, the, you know, they're not like what you would see with, with an O-1 visa.

00:32:32.420 These aren't the, you know, the top of the top, the, the, the, the sort of cream de la creme of, of, of geniuses or anything.

00:32:39.300 These are mostly just people that are relatively equivalent to your average U.S. worker within the tech industry that has a bachelor's degree that knows some degree of coding or has, you know, gone through kind of a bootstrap kind of training program.

00:32:50.500 And that's pretty much the extent of it.

00:32:53.400 They just get paid, you know, $70,000 less.

00:32:55.860 Yeah, they get paid to, they get paid 30% less and they work in, in hell hole conditions because they're indentured servants.

00:33:05.260 We've allowed, we're allowing this to happen in the sociopathic overlords have no problem having indentured servants that are taking the jobs of people that are citizens of this country. 0.98

00:33:16.580 And her families have fought for this country and built this country and who's on their shoulders, uh, we're less the full faith and credit of this country.

00:33:25.040 This is the con.

00:33:26.540 This is a scam.

00:33:27.560 Let me repeat.

00:33:28.800 It is a total and complete scam from top to top to bottom.

00:33:32.920 We're not looking to reform this system.

00:33:35.000 We want its total and complete elimination.

00:33:37.580 And we want it at the top is number one of Doge.

00:33:41.520 We want Doge to say this has to be eliminated fully.

00:33:43.940 And we should deport these workers today and we should then hire American workers to take their place. 1.00

00:33:52.460 And then we can sit down and have a negotiation on what reparations are for stealing these people's future.

00:33:59.860 Kevin Lynn, hang on, Will, I'm going to come back to you.

00:34:01.820 Kevin Lynn, uh, your assessment.

00:34:04.000 Am I too far off on this?

00:34:06.320 No, you're not far off at all.

00:34:08.040 Um, again, getting back to how this bill was created.

00:34:13.660 The Immigration Reform Act in 1990 that created H-1B visa, it was designed.

00:34:19.960 I used to say it was being abused.

00:34:22.360 But the fact is, it was designed to displace American workers that companies felt were expensive, undeserving, and expendable.

00:34:31.560 And they, and the proof is in the pudding here because when they file what they call a labor condition application, an LCA for a job they want a foreigner for, unlike the H-2A, the ag visa, the H-2B, the seasonal worker visa, they don't have to in any way demonstrate that they couldn't find an American for that position.

00:34:54.500 Second thing, we, it's not a meritocracy.

00:34:59.140 So the 85,000 plus another, uh, roughly another 30,000 that come in every year on the H-1B visa, it's a lottery.

00:35:11.900 So someone who graduates, let's say they're at India Institute of Technology, they get a PhD, they have as much chance of getting an H-1B as someone with an associate's or a B-tech degree from Bangalore Community College.

00:35:27.720 And so, it doesn't matter.

00:35:31.260 All they want are heads in a bed.

00:35:33.380 It's, as you mentioned before, Steve, it's supply and demand.

00:35:38.000 And again, they, the corporations, when they got together and created this program with the corporatocracy, our government, they knew darn well that this program was being, would be used to displace Americans.

00:35:51.260 And it has been, companies like Disney, Northeast Utilities, Abbott Labs, SoCal Edison, hundreds of others.

00:36:00.860 So it's illegal to replace an American one-to-one with a foreigner. 0.92

00:36:05.380 That would be, well, country of origin discrimination.

00:36:08.020 So what they do is they contract with H-1B visa-dependent Indian, typically Indian, sometimes it's my old alma mater, Ernst & Young, is as big an abuser as this, as anyone, consulting firms that will outsource whole departments, like IT departments. 0.57

00:36:26.560 And what we've seen for two decades was, like at Disney, a woman was called in, she'd been with them for 12 years, database programmer, highly skilled.

00:36:39.740 She thought she was going to get promoted when they called her in, but they called her in a letter and they were going to fire her.

00:36:45.960 And she was going to have to, to get a sovereign, she was going to have to train her H-1B visa replacement.

00:36:56.560 This is how this thing works.

00:36:58.160 And it's gotten only more insidious.

00:37:01.440 Again, it's not a meritocracy.

00:37:03.880 What do you mean, hang on, hang on, hang on, slow down.

00:37:06.180 Because the Disney thing, I covered at Breitbart, that was a big deal in the 16 campaign.

00:37:09.760 It was horrible.

00:37:10.700 Even 60 Minutes finally awakened to the fact that this was going on after we rubbed their nose in it.

00:37:15.860 Absolutely.

00:37:16.220 But I want to go back to the, because skilled, skilled immigrant workers, high-skilled foreign workers, this is the beating heart of it.

00:37:23.200 And I don't care about the other, the teachers.

00:37:24.840 That obviously has got to go away.

00:37:27.540 And if government contracts, it's insane.

00:37:29.780 Our teachers at VMI, Virginia Military Institute, I want to focus on the tech, because this is the heart of it.

00:37:36.260 Are these high-skilled foreign workers, are there any skill set that they're bringing that makes them more skilled than American workers, sir?

00:37:46.760 No.

00:37:47.320 These are very ordinary workers.

00:37:49.220 Again, you wouldn't have to train your replacement if you were far more capable than them.

00:37:55.180 And oftentimes, these fail.

00:37:57.440 Like at Northeast Utilities, they did that whole replacement thing, but then they had to get rid of that consulting firm because they didn't have the skilled talent, ultimately.

00:38:06.660 So these are not skilled workers.

00:38:10.820 And you had mentioned earlier the accusations of racism.

00:38:14.720 Well, this is funny because 74% of all H-1B visa holders come from one country, Steve, India.

00:38:24.760 How is that?

00:38:25.600 But if we're looking for the best and the brightest of the world, how is it all concentrated in India? 0.99

00:38:31.960 Excuse me.

00:38:33.140 So it's not the best and the brightest.

00:38:37.260 It's a program that was designed to displace Americans right from the get-go. 0.92

00:38:42.500 Again, it's not being abused.

00:38:43.900 It's working exactly the way it was designed.

00:38:45.780 But I – yeah, I want to defend – India is one of the great ancient civilizations.

00:38:51.620 It's got a very deep philosophy, the Vedanta, the Gita, on culture, on – and by the way, the kids, and particularly IIT.

00:39:03.100 IIT, their equivalent, MIT is the hardest school to get into the world.

00:39:06.020 I know many graduates are there.

00:39:08.000 And they do have a system that every kid's got to win the spelling bee or perform in mathematics from a very early age.

00:39:17.820 That's kind of Vivek's spelling bee culture, right, or valedictorian culture, right?

00:39:25.280 That's not our culture.

00:39:26.860 And my point is if they were demonstrably – hang on, Kevin, hang on.

00:39:32.040 If they could show us by the people they hired that these were higher-skilled workers or skilled immigrants were higher than American citizens, you can have the debate and we can have the argument.

00:39:46.020 There is no debate here.

00:39:48.900 The facts are overwhelming.

00:39:51.740 They did it because the Indians, to get through the golden door, yes, will become indentured servants. 1.00

00:39:58.000 They will become indentured servants.

00:39:59.880 They will sacrifice themselves and the $60,000 and come over here and live, tend to a house, and work nonstop to go through the golden door and eventually get a green card and eventually get chain migration. 0.98

00:40:15.340 And the indentured servant is a big aspect.

00:40:17.720 But at the cost of American society – go ahead, sir.

00:40:20.860 Keep going.

00:40:21.560 The indentured aspect is – it's often downplayed because, yes, they are cheaper.

00:40:27.700 But that indentured aspect that you mentioned, Steve, is really important.

00:40:32.360 For instance, I was talking to a guy who had about 80 reports to him at Cisco.

00:40:38.600 And he said, well, Kev, at Cisco, we pay our folks the same.

00:40:43.060 But what they get out of it is a worker that is really compliant.

00:40:48.620 So if you're here on an H-1B, you're here for three years and then you can extend for three years.

00:40:53.580 Now, baked into the cake with this visa, where it's not like any other employment visa, and you mentioned this briefly earlier, Steve, it's a dual intent.

00:41:04.620 So if you come on an H-1B, your employer can decide to, yes or no, give you a pathway to citizenship by sponsoring you for a green card.

00:41:17.720 Now, yes, exactly.

00:41:20.820 Hang on, Kevin.

00:41:21.600 Hang on.

00:41:22.560 Hang on.

00:41:23.120 Hang on.

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00:42:02.060 Back on the total and complete scam of H-1B visas. 0.99

00:42:12.680 We're still waiting for the counter-argument that shows that these were high-skilled foreign workers that were more skilled than citizens of this country.

00:42:25.600 Skilled immigrant workers.

00:42:26.760 You see the mantra they put out?

00:42:28.300 It's a lie.

00:42:29.700 It's not a tiny lie.

00:42:30.660 It's a bald-faced lie.

00:42:32.280 And for you saying, a couple of people saying, oh, well, you got, you know, we just have to have a group hug and, you know, don't distract.

00:42:37.680 What are you talking about?

00:42:39.060 Do you understand the firestorm we're about to hit?

00:42:40.900 Do you think on the afternoon, the 20th, that these guys, remember I was doing the podcast and the guy asked me, Sax's co-host, good guy.

00:42:49.760 This is on election night.

00:42:50.620 He says, well, it looks like you're going to win, you know, the deportations, that's not real.

00:42:54.940 I said, yeah, it's real, 15 million.

00:42:56.800 He goes, oh, you can't, what, what, what?

00:42:58.740 He was gasping for breath.

00:43:00.680 About to have a heart attack.

00:43:02.760 Don't even know if he took the vaccine.

00:43:05.100 I don't know if it's myocarditis or just the, that, no, we're dug in.

00:43:08.580 All 15 million got to go home.

00:43:09.940 Well, guess what?

00:43:11.240 All these phony H-1B visas, phony, they got to go home. 0.96

00:43:15.460 Home.

00:43:16.820 And the job's got to go to America.

00:43:18.480 And, hey, we'll put the resumes up of what American workers do.

00:43:22.940 No, but here's the deeper con to this.

00:43:26.320 It is the green card and then the citizenship and then the chain migration.

00:43:31.400 Kevin Lind, walk me through that process, sir, because this is the long con.

00:43:34.740 Right, exactly.

00:43:36.960 So the reason we call this indentured servitude is the employer gets to dangle the carrot of

00:43:44.800 a pathway to citizenship in front of this worker.

00:43:47.360 So they're going to do whatever they're told.

00:43:49.460 Let's say they'll work 80 hours if they have to.

00:43:52.320 They'll work for less if they have to.

00:43:54.580 They will turn a blind eye to any graft or corruption that could be going on at that company that

00:44:00.920 might deserve a whistle being blown.

00:44:03.340 So what the employer will do then, right about the sixth year, is they'll offer them a green,

00:44:09.760 to sponsor them for a green card.

00:44:11.620 And when that happens, now, with most people from most countries, they'll get that green 0.97

00:44:19.160 card in a couple years.

00:44:20.860 In the case of India, because of this, only because of this H-1B visa and the dual intent

00:44:28.200 nature of it, there is a backlog because we have country caps.

00:44:32.220 We don't want any one country to dominate our immigration system. 0.99

00:44:36.820 And right now, even though the cap is set at 7% per country, because we allow for overflow

00:44:44.220 when a country doesn't hit its quota, anywhere from 25% to 30% of all green card employment

00:44:52.340 visas issued go to one country, India.

00:44:56.640 And they're claiming racism. 1.00

00:44:59.800 It's just, it's absolute rubbish. 0.99

00:45:02.160 So again, that's the indentured. 0.99

00:45:04.420 We talked about they're cheaper.

00:45:06.820 They're indentured.

00:45:08.300 What's not to like if you're a heartless capitalist?

00:45:12.560 You don't care about, you don't put Americans first.

00:45:18.200 Kevin, hang on for one second.

00:45:20.080 I'm going to come back to you.

00:45:20.580 I want to introduce Allison Wynn.

00:45:23.100 Allison, thank you for joining us.

00:45:24.540 You're actually, I guess, pretty prominent in the Democratic Party, but you've had an awakening.

00:45:29.460 Talk to me about this whole visa situation and the gutting of American citizens, the gutting 1.00

00:45:35.440 of our workforce to bring in workers who are not even at the same skill level, but to bring

00:45:42.000 them in because they're cheaper labor, ma'am. 1.00

00:45:43.820 Yeah, so I have a unique perspective because I was an insider at big tech really early on

00:45:51.080 with Google.

00:45:51.680 I helped to come up with the tech space advertising that eventually became AdWords.

00:45:57.740 My husband, for 25 years, wrote the original Google search engine at Stanford.

00:46:04.400 So when we were going to college at Stanford and my co-ed engineering fraternity where we

00:46:11.860 helped to write the business plan for Google and a lot of the early employees at the big

00:46:16.120 tech, Facebook, Google came from there.

00:46:18.800 We were all Americans and, you know, we didn't have that.

00:46:24.700 Some of them were on student visas, but we didn't have the H-1B visas, you know, in the

00:46:30.080 founding team.

00:46:31.020 They were mostly just Americans from what I recall in the mid-90s.

00:46:37.060 And so somewhere along the line, they became heartless, capitalist, do no evil became, as Mr.

00:46:47.580 Lynn would say, you know, make as much money as you can.

00:46:50.500 And they hired the CFOs and they figured out the loopholes to replace American workers.

00:46:55.920 So that way you get the cheaper inflow of workers.

00:47:00.600 I myself love Elon Musk.

00:47:02.480 I think he's a great visionary.

00:47:04.900 He's done so much for our country and the world in terms of electric cars.

00:47:09.640 He opened up that industry, space exploration.

00:47:12.040 And I'm excited for Doge.

00:47:15.700 But I might and I personally know him.

00:47:18.380 We went on vacation with him years ago and he gave my daughter and I his private suite on

00:47:25.060 the private jet.

00:47:26.060 And, you know, he wakes up really early in the morning.

00:47:28.420 He was playing chess with my daughter before everyone else did.

00:47:32.280 And he's the last one to go to sleep, always working, always thinking about serving other

00:47:37.060 people.

00:47:37.480 So I only have good personal experience with Mr.

00:47:42.660 Musk.

00:47:42.980 And I love what he's done in terms of technology innovation, a great risk taker.

00:47:49.540 I do take some of what Mr.

00:47:53.300 Vivek Ramaswamy has said about the American culture.

00:47:57.280 I disagree with him.

00:47:58.920 I myself love dance at Stanford.

00:48:01.800 I had two activities, which was our engineering co-ed fraternity and my dance group, the 24-hour

00:48:10.980 dance group.

00:48:11.760 And I think dancing and sports.

00:48:13.820 And I played semi-professional tennis.

00:48:16.960 I was in a varsity tennis team and we traveled around from a young age.

00:48:21.820 And I know my friends who were in football, baseball.

00:48:24.300 This American culture is really fundamental to what gives America the edge in terms of innovation,

00:48:35.360 creativity, risk taking.

00:48:37.440 It's a secret sauce, right?

00:48:40.280 We may not have the best math scores.

00:48:42.900 We may not have the best science scores.

00:48:45.140 But it's like Tom Brady.

00:48:46.320 Hey, he wasn't the fastest quarterback.

00:48:49.100 If you look at his college recruiting role, he was like the slowest, he was the slowest

00:48:56.500 runner.

00:48:57.440 And he got recruited 199 out of 200.

00:49:01.740 But what he offered was not just his, exactly, is his leadership.

00:49:08.440 In America, we have leadership.

00:49:12.780 Allison, hang on one second.

00:49:14.080 We'll take a break.

00:49:14.760 Go to the top of the hour.

00:49:15.780 What Allison's saying is Tom Brady had the right stuff.

00:49:19.360 Remember, there were seven, I think, seven quarterbacks drafted before him.

00:49:23.640 Didn't even start all his senior season at the University of Michigan.

00:49:28.400 Brought a baseball player back from the Yankees to start for a couple of games.

00:49:32.560 He had the right stuff.

00:49:34.380 Just like this nation, short commercial break.

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Bannon's War Room - December 30, 2024

Episode 4158： Elon's Indentured Servants

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