Episode 4568: Trump Speaks On Iran
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Summary
The President of the United States, Donald Trump, sits down with CNN's Jake Tapper to discuss the Iran nuclear crisis, the Iran crisis, and the future of the world. He also discusses his plans for a possible strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.
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not Harvey Weinstein but Harvey seen a better day so it won't be Harvey but it
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will be somebody and I say that that guy is perfect for a movie and you're
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gonna become a star and your friends are gonna call you and you won't even
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return their phone call anymore what do you do for a living I put up flag
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falls I'm not even gonna talk to you so some way you have that anyway let's have
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a good they call it a lifting they also use another word but I'm not going to
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use that word you know that it is the word it starts with an e you know what
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the word is if I ever used it I'd be run out of town by you people all right so
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enjoy it Doug you're gonna get some good he's gonna win another Nobel Prize I
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think for this picture so maybe the flag will be even more exciting but this is
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pretty exciting that's some equipment I'll tell you what look at that that's
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some beautiful equipment it's there's nothing like America have a good time
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everybody have you been to answer questions about whether you are moving
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closer you believe the US is moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear
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facilities where's your mindset on that you can't say that right you don't
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seriously think I'm gonna answer that question will you strike the Iranian
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nuclear component and what time exactly sir sir would you strike it would you
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please inform us so we can be there and watch I mean you don't know that I'm
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gonna even do it you don't know I may do it I may not do it I mean nobody knows
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what I'm gonna do I can tell you this that Iran's got a lot of trouble and they
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want to negotiate and I said why didn't you negotiate with me before all this
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death and destruction why didn't you negate I said to the people why didn't you
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negotiate with me two weeks ago you could have done fine you would have had a
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country it's very sad to watch this I mean I've never I've never seen anything
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like it it's so you know everyone thought it was going to be the reverse I
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didn't I didn't think so and I was telling him you got it you got to do
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something you got to negotiate and at the end last minute they said no we're not
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going to do that and they got hit remember 60 days and then came the 60 61 is
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going to become a very famous number that was one hell of a hit that first hit that
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was one hell of a hit not sustainable to be honest that's where it ended it
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ended on the first night yes do you think it's too late to now really
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nothing's too late the only thing too late is Powell Powell's too late too late
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Powell yes I said it's very late you know I said it's very late to be talking we may
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meet it's it's I don't know there's a big difference between now and a week ago
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it's about anybody they even suggested they come to the White House it's a big
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difference but they've suggested that they come to the White House that's you
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know courageous but you know it's like not easy for them to do but they suggest
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because I can't go now because of what's going on I had to come back early
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from the G7 which was terrific by the way in Canada really terrific good people
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is there a possibility of next week or sooner that you're well I don't know how
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much longer it's going to go on they're totally defenseless they have no air
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defense whatsoever totally captured you know we've totally captured the air
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brain mr. president you've been fairly compassionate towards the Iranian people
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suggestions I know a lot of people from Iran from New York from Washington mostly
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from New York they're incredible people they're smart they're energetic they can
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be difficult but so can you you know no they're great people smart people and
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those people are getting the hell beat out of them now and it's really a shame so
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stupid it's so stupid it's another one you know Russia Ukraine is so stupid would
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have never happened if I was president you guys agree with that would have
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never happened if I was president Putin would have never done it and I spoke to
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him yesterday and I said you know he actually offered to help mediate I said do
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me a favor mediate your own let's mediate Russia first okay I said Vladimir let's
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mediate Russia first you can worry about this later but I think that's going to work
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that too but it's so many people have been killed the big thing with that one
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is far more people are dead than have been reported in the Ukraine Russia many
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many more people a building falls down they say nobody was hurt you know
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two very simple words have very simple unconditional surrender that means I've had
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it okay I've had it I give up no more then we go blow up all the military you know all
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the nuclear stuff that's all over the place there no they had bad intentions you
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know the fee for 40 years they've been saying death to America death to Israel
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death to anybody else that they didn't like they were bullies they were schoolyard
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bullies and now they're not bullies anymore but we'll see what happens look
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nothing's finished until it's finished you know war is very complex a lot of bad
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things can happen a lot of turns are made so I don't know I wouldn't say that we
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won anything yet I would say that we sure as hell made a lot of progress and we'll
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see the next week is going to be very big maybe less than a week maybe less but is
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there anybody here that said it would be okay to have to have a hostile very you
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know zealots really but to have a hostile country have a nuclear weapon that could
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destroy 25 miles but much more than that could destroy other nations just by the breeze blowing
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the dust you know that dust blows to other nations and they get decimated this is just
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not a threat you can have and we've been threatened by Iran for many years you know
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if you go back and look at my history if you go back 15 years I was saying we cannot let Iran get a
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nuclear weapon I've been saying it for a long time and I mean it more now than I ever meant it yeah
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mr. president on the question on deportations mr. president you said last week that changes would
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be coming for farmers who have seen a lot of the workers they rely on taken away but then DHS said
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this week that worksite enforcement would remain in place that it's a cornerstone so what's your
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message to farmers we got to get the bad people out of here first and we're doing that we're taking
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them out by the thousands murderers drug dealers people that are mentally insane from insane asylums
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what they gave to us fellas they gave them for do we have anybody in here that's a member of the
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agenda I don't think so you've known all these people for a long time any illegal immigrants in there
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if they were they'll find out right they'll be checking you you won't believe your whole life will be
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destroyed because of this press conference watch they'll destroy these people I didn't want to tell them
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that before they said they'll end up being us he's a so-and-so this one is from you know where don't
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worry I think you've I think you're gonna be okay I'll I'll be right behind you far behind you I'll be
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right behind you now look we have to take care of our farmers we have to take care of people that run
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leisure hotels I mean we got to take care of them but most importantly we have to get the criminals out of
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our country and Biden let in thousands and eleven thousand eight eighty eight murderers many of them
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murdered more than one person can you believe it many almost 50 percent of them murdered more than
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one but he let them into our country they emptied out the jails of countries from all over the world
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from the Congo from Venezuela from all over the place they emptied out there just many of them I
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would if I were running one of the countries I would have emptied out my prison population into the
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U.S. and many countries did and we're getting them out okay we're getting them out thank you very much
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let's let's just watch this Brian go ahead you can follow up on the immigration real quickly can you
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comment on the impact of the trump card yeah we have a thing called the trump card this has not been done
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before I thought of and for five million dollars this is usually people that would either be working
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for companies like Apple I think is going to buy a lot of them because they can't get people into the
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country you know if you come in through the southern border you have no problem you can be a criminal you
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can be a drug dealer and you have no problem but if you if you go and graduate number one in your
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class from a great school you can't get a job because there's no access to getting it you can't get a green
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card so we're going to sell that to people in some cases wealthy in some cases not wealthy they'll be
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paid for by universities look at Harvard they got 53 billion dollars they that whole thing is coming
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to an end it's it's amazing what we what we found out what a disgrace fifth they have 53 billion dollars
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we gave them five six and some people say it's as much as nine billion dollars over a short period of
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time so that's very much coming to it they want to make a deal more than I would say Harvard wants to
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make a deal more than Iran wants to make a deal and Iran wants to make a deal but I mean a lot of
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things look a lot of things are happening on a lot of fronts Brian a lot of good things are happening
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and frankly you know it's a little bit of a as we used to say liberal now they say progressive I use
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the word liberal progressives too nice a word because they're destroying the country they're really
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destroying these the liberal politicians are destroying our country look what they've done
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during Biden's four years I mean we're working on I mean so much of our effort goes to getting people
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out of the country that should have never been here in the first place what he what he's done to this
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country is not him he had no idea what was going on everybody knows that it's other people it's Lisa
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and this one and that all these people all this scum that was around the oval you know the oval office or
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around the beautiful resolute desk telling this guy here do this do that and not even telling
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them they just go over to the auto pen and sign whatever the hell they wanted to sign to say what
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you want about but he wasn't for open borders he wasn't for transgender for everybody he wasn't for
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men playing in women's sports but he has no idea what the hell he has no idea and they were very upset
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they wanted Bernie Sanders and after about a week of this guy they said wait a minute we just hit
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we just hit gold this guy has no clue he'll do anything we tell him and then they realized
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they don't even have to get permission they just go up to the auto pen that's a subversion that's a
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takeover of our government and you people ought to start looking at that's a takeover not only did
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they cheat I guess you saw yesterday came out with China and the license plates tens of thousands of
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cards they used those cards to vote on the second election my second the one 2020 because as everybody
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here knows I won that election by a lot but the only good thing I can say is this is a much much more
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historic term than I think I could have had as a second term this is a much more historic election
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and now we're going to put up a beautiful flagpole and we're going to put up a flag and I hope you enjoy
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it and let's see how real people work these are real people you're not real people your job is
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too easy okay thank you very much close to 100 feet you have an evening today with the with the
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general with the Pakistani army chief of staff what are you look what are you looking forward to
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achieving diplomatically well I stopped a war between Pakistan I love Pakistan I think
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Modi is a fantastic man I spoke to him last night we're going to make a trade deal with
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with Modi of India but I stopped the war between Pakistan and India this man was extremely influential
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in stopping it from the Pakistan side Modi from the India side and others and they were going at it
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and they're both nuclear countries I got it stopped I don't think I had one story did I have one story
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written about I stopped the war between two major nations major nuclear nations I don't think I had a
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story written about I think that's okay you know why the people know the people know did anybody write that
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story about the war did anybody did you write it oh did you write it you wrote it
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no no we put it so that marine one is very far away we did it in conjunction with the air force
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you know with everybody and everybody signed off on it we uh no we have to have it far away it's very
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far from marine ones out there it's out in the field so you have to have a certain distance we're about
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three times that distance okay thank you very much everybody can you share what you told prime
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nothing would be uh more welcome in these countries let alone in Israel than to see the
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end of Iranian imperialism this is a bad regime and it's been bad for Arabs every bit as much as Jews
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so Tom let's get your take on a topic of conversation we had a short time ago let's say
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the U.S. does go through this President Trump gives the go-ahead and these bunker buster bombs are used
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and you know this devastation that follows for Iran what comes the day after what comes the day after in
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Iran particularly for the United States you know and if the the Colin Powell maxim of if you break it
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you buy it what does it look like next just for the record I wrote a column February 12th uh 2001
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2003 excuse me called uh you break it you own it the pottery store world that started with me before
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the Iraq war you get credit then yeah okay um uh look I I think we we can't predict but I do believe
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that um first of all what worries me um is that uh the Iranian leader is completely disconnected
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um how much information can he be getting he's sitting in a bunker somewhere hiding his entire
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top military and military intelligence leadership has been wiped out and so um who knows how much he
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even understands about what's going on um but that said somebody there does and I do believe that um uh
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if we made one last attempt at at uh at coercive diplomacy and again I would be demanding the end of
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their nuclear program um uh who knows what they what they would answer now I think on one hand you
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have to say um Kareem Sajjapur the Iran expert at Carnegie likes to say the Iranians are homicidal but
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not suicidal and so um uh I think if we did go to war with them uh or take out this nuclear facility
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um they'd have a big decision whether they attack our forces because that would that would truly mean
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the end of their regime but that's that's on day one or that's the morning after what I'm always
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looking at in the Middle East Jonathan is the morning after the morning after uh that's when
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things get really interesting um uh and interesting not always in a pleasant way um does Iran begin
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the regime begin to crumble we're talking about a country of 95 million people what kind of disorder
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flows from there do you get a crazy uh general there who decides to sink some tankers in the
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straits of Hormuz um uh I it's just totally unpredictable and I I wouldn't even attempt to
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try to say what could happen right now I'm focused on this idea we've developed the coercion
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very effectively let's give one more shot at diplomacy here's what we're learning it happened
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just moments ago Iran's supreme leader addressed his nation saying Iran will not surrender he also
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directly responded to President Trump Ayatollah Ali Khamenei made this threat let the Americans know
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that the Iranian nation is not one to surrender and any military invention on their part will
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undoubtedly result in irreparable damage his remarks coming just day after President Trump called on
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Tehran to surrender unconditionally we are totally ready to give appropriate response to any development
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we will follow the developments we will follow the actions of the United States and at any time at any
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point if we come to the conclusion that United States is directly involved in attacks against Iran
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we will start responding to United States how many people live in Iran by the way I don't know the
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population at all no I don't know the population you don't know the population of the country you
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seek to topple how many people live in Iran 92 million okay yeah how could you not know that
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I I don't sit around memorizing population tables well it's kind of relevant because you're calling for
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the overthrow of the government why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million
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what why is that if you don't know anything about the country I didn't say I don't know anything
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about okay what's the ethnic mix of Iran they are Persians and predominantly Shia okay you don't
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know anything about Iran so okay I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran you're a senator who's
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calling you're the one who claims you don't know anything about the country no you don't know anything
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about the country you're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump you're the one who
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can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad they're
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trying to murder Trump yes I do because you're not calling for military strikes against them in
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retaliation and if you really believe that carrying out military strikes today you said Israel was
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right with our help I've said we Israel is leading them but we're supporting them well this you're
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breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied the National Security Council
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spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any
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offensive capacity we're not bombing them Israel's bombing them you just said we were we are supporting
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you're a senator if you're saying the United States government is not worth a run right now people are
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listening opportunity to change out this regime that has been the epicenter of global terrorism since
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1979 again it just seems this is an existential bet either way the president goes with it talk about
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what the world looks like though with the threat of a nuclear Iran removed yeah I think Joe I'm among
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that group that believes that you know this is a it's it's not an exact analogy but it's a Berlin wall
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kind of moment in that this is this Iranian regime is a really bad actor not just regionally most of all
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of course for its own people we're talking about a country that is a an incredible civilization you know going
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back thousands of years the potential of a of the Persian nation you know to contribute to the to the region and to the
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world is enormous and that has been completely stifled by this regime I mean and it's a tragedy for these people but this
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regime has also stifled the opportunities of Lebanon of Syria of Iraq you know it is no accident Joe that people of the
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that people have pointed out the president of Syria today it's like one country that hasn't even given the
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titular oh you shouldn't do this America like there are just a lot of Arabs really rooting for this bad regime
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to leave that's on the upside on the downside is a vast country and instability from there can really spill all
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over and the transition will not be overnight we're not going to go from this regime you know to a wonderful leader
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and therefore I say what I what what I say in Iraq and today if you're going to do this this is a long
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road you want maximum legitimacy to do this and the maximum legitimacy is produced by going about this
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in a very systematic way Israel has generated enormous coercive power on the Iranians whatever they're saying
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they are really hurting and the Israelis aren't done okay let's leverage that so the whole world sees for
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one last time we're going to go to this regime and say you need to end this program in a verifiable
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way um right now okay and if you don't all right we that coercion is going to go uh to its final
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conclusion let the whole world see that we are avoiding war every way we possibly can but we're not the world
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will not be a stable place if this regime is allowed to pursue this nuclear program which is clearly not
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about generating electricity yeah so where are they they're nowhere how about china nowhere how about
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russia nowhere what happened to world war three there is no world war three they all sound like a bunch
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of marxist islamists they don't sound like patriotic americans let me be clear this is good versus evil
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you're either a patriotic american who's going to get behind the president of the united states
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the commander in chief or you're not this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies
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because we're going medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying
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about the people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you
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try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen
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and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
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is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bannett
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good morning everyone welcome to war room dave bratt sitting in for the great uh stephen k bannon
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today he's out uh doing uh work for our great country as only he can do uh i'm going to try to
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do my best to cover what steve's been setting up uh but yeah first off i just usually give a reaction
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when i see joe scarborough right he's baptist joe scarborough and believe me religion ties into
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what we're going through these days uh when he's going hardcore pro war now he's always talking
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about well the virtues of jesus in my sunday school class was turning the other cheek so we're in a
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very new world and the day when i kind of agree with some of what tom friedman from the new york
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times says uh is equally shocking we got very strange bedfellows uh going on right now i just want
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to make a few points i have not heard uh out there i i of course i am at liberty university but
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all the the points i make are my own on this show uh when it comes to the christian religion
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in our relationship with israel of course we love israel i i do but the question is how do you bless
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israel right as the book of genesis says bless israel uh and when you see your friend going off
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course i think we're going off course right this war it's changed fundamentally in the last two weeks
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that right there is not good it's changed fundamentally in a week i think president uh trump a week ago on
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monday made some comments uh and the and the the the fundamental change in trajectory went from
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uh israel taking out nuclear weapons to regime change uh and so now uh you have russia weighing
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in last night pakistan weighed in a couple days ago uh everybody's got their eyes on the uh aircraft
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carriers coming from taiwan what's china going to do uh this is no uh little uh simple operation where
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we're taking out uh you know uh nuclear weapons and uh one you know one of our friends in the war room
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uh harzoni the other day said israel can do that they they can do the the bunker buster piece right
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the u.s can make it easier but he said we can do that uh and fundamentally uh the religious piece
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here needs some consideration now in the in the the hebrew scripture is very clear uh always
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every time when the prophets speak for god and say go to war uh you go to war uh in the conditions that
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he laid down and uh when you don't uh listen to that uh when you don't listen to god's word
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uh things go bad for israel uh similarly if there is no word from god which i have not heard yet i have
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not heard anyone invoke uh the word of god here uh and so i'm waiting to hear that uh from our leaders
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from bb netanyahu uh from the religious leaders in the united states of america these are life and
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death consequences uh last night iran threatened to take out uh our uh our uh soldiers right our bases
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uh so the america first thing is america first i think we're going to pivot to uh president trump
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for a minute here and uh see what uh he's announcing on the uh the flagpole issue he set up earlier before
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the show she's doing great he's really enjoying it baron's enjoying it
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all my kids are enjoying it actually pretty hot out here tonight
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what's muggier the dc or west palm beach in the summer i think this is smuggier this is a muggy
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president could i ask you about the paramount deal and uh the merger with skydance and the
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ellison's like what's holding that up and like do you see that being resolved
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i hope so ellison's great they'll do a great job with it but so what they did is they interviewed
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60 minutes they interviewed kamala her answer was horrendous i would say election threatening this
00:26:09.540
is the day before the election her answer was election threatening or so incompetent
00:26:14.700
so they took the entire answer out and they took another answer to another question
00:26:19.780
and they did that i understand a number of times but you don't have to do it a number of times the
00:26:26.480
main question they asked and we caught them and they're very embarrassed by it and they're working
00:26:32.560
on a settlement now but think of it did you ever hear that one before they took the entire
00:26:37.380
every word threw it out put another answer do you think they do that for me i think it happens daily
00:26:44.260
well i've never seen it i thought i've seen everything that i've never seen it's very
00:26:50.000
embarrassing and the head of 60 minutes got fired the head of cbs got fired they're all getting fired
00:26:56.660
but do you think the deal what they're doing here what are they doing this is only if you're in
00:27:01.880
construction is exciting see they have to get it perfectly straight and once it's perfect then
00:27:07.880
they pour in the sand and it's there for a hundred years mr president the senate works on the big
00:27:14.560
beautiful bill it seems like salt is going to be a really big issue between senate republicans and
00:27:19.000
house republicans so what are you telling senators because the new york republicans on the house side
00:27:22.860
are making clear that that's a red line for them well if it were a red line then uh get ready for a
00:27:28.740
68 tax increase in 1929 because we're taking care of that issue too you know what that is that's debt
00:27:37.460
ceiling uh the debt sale we have to move the debt and if we don't move the debt it's you know you
00:27:44.140
violate governance it's a terrible thing actually pocahontas even agreed with me on that she's been
00:27:49.660
wanting to get rid of the debt ceiling because she said it's it's too violent it is violent so uh i mean
00:27:57.260
anybody that votes against it they voted to give a 59 a 68 percent tax increase and many other bet
00:28:04.300
there's there would be no money for the border you know we have billions of dollars allocated to
00:28:09.820
immigration the border keeping criminals out getting criminals out to uh if that doesn't pass you'll get
00:28:16.160
a 68 percent tax increase and i would say this any senator that votes against it and that includes
00:28:23.640
democrats i think they'll be finished in politics on salt specifically do you think senate republicans
00:28:29.160
or house republicans will have to bend more in order to get the bill at large i don't know we're going
00:28:33.660
to see how it works out it's a very difficult issue to be honest with you it's very difficult and i
00:28:38.620
understand both sides but we'll just have to see hopefully a compromise or something's going to be
00:28:42.820
made but it's a very difficult issue but uh remember that you know people say what do you think
00:28:49.380
68 percent tax so all those numbers i told you how well the economy is doing it all gets wiped out
00:28:55.460
you'd have the largest tax increase in history by far by three times if they don't get the big
00:29:02.300
beautiful deal i always say the great big beautiful deal i put the word great in there they took that
00:29:07.580
it's going to be great great if we get that passed it'll be the best one of the greatest pieces
00:29:12.540
and that's just the beginning of a lot of things that are going to happen because we're going to
00:29:17.620
get numbers down we're going to get them way down but that's the beginning that's our big first step
00:29:21.660
but that's a big it's the most important piece of legislation in terms of dollar value and everything
00:29:26.720
else there's nothing as big as that you know they thought that might be seven or eight bills it's all in
00:29:31.520
well speaking of taxes on starting on july 1st california is upping their tax on gasoline again
00:29:38.220
for gallon i mean that's well you know i beat the california mandate congress just passed a bill
00:29:42.800
ending it that was terrible so what they were saying everybody by 2030 has to have an electric car
00:29:48.020
but i want it i'm all for electric cars but you have to want one and right now it's about seven percent
00:29:53.980
but they were forcing everybody to have it i ended you know i ended that and now they're coming out with
00:29:59.320
one no in california you know i've got we've got some gas stations where just two weeks ago
00:30:04.240
it was a dollar 98 a dollar 99 we've got the gas down below and we have this little situation which
00:30:11.120
will drive it up a little bit but very little and it's going to come down again going to give people
00:30:16.840
a lot of extra money groceries are down eggs are down you know the eggs they hit me the first week
00:30:22.700
about eggs but uh no i think that uh look you know what i do whenever i talk about gavin newscom i
00:30:30.740
say look at the railroad look at the railroad uh it's not even possible do you think he comes out
00:30:37.500
and sees the construction workers i don't think i don't think he put an american flag in front of the
00:30:42.580
so president some of your supporters are split on the u.s response to who you at cnn
00:30:49.620
well there's a split though fake news fortunately nobody watches is anybody watching cnn nowadays
00:30:56.220
i haven't seen it in a long time some of your supporters are wary of the u.s getting involved
00:31:03.240
in another foreign mall and some believe that we should support do you ever ask a positive question
00:31:08.860
at cnn my supporters are more in love with me today and i'm in love with them more than they
00:31:13.880
were even at election time where we had a total uh landslide we had you know we won all seven swing
00:31:21.380
states did cnn report that we won all seven seven out of seven which everyone said would be almost
00:31:25.940
impossible and we won by millions of votes we won two thousand seven hundred and fifty districts
00:31:32.480
versus five hundred and five districts think of that two thousand seven hundred and fifty versus
00:31:38.080
five hundred and five and cnn i think what she might be alluding to is the base is going to stay
00:31:46.880
with you regardless and you've gone through different times regardless but some of the people in the
00:31:52.060
base don't want a long-term war they're afraid that we're going to get into a long term
00:31:55.500
yeah we're looking it's only i only want one thing iran cannot have a nuclear weapon that's it
00:32:01.860
i'm not looking long-term short-term and i've been saying that for 20 years i've been saying it as a
00:32:06.360
civilian who got a lot of publicity people would cover it very simply iran cannot have a nuclear
00:32:12.140
weapon that's it it's not a question of anything else and if you did you wouldn't have much of a
00:32:17.260
country because they would use it on us and they'd use it on other people and they'd be a terror all over
00:32:21.760
the world so i may have some people that are a little bit unhappy now but i have some people
00:32:27.300
that are very happy and have people outside of the base that can't believe that this is happening
00:32:31.180
they're so happy and there was a poll that just came out today that my approval rating is the highest
00:32:36.320
it's ever been all i'm doing is saying you can't have a nuclear weapon and i tried to do it nicely
00:32:41.120
and then on day 61 i said let's go because we can't let that happen and i've been saying it for 20
00:32:47.700
years but okay i'm gonna leave thank you very much thank you sir
00:32:52.920
all right great president uh trump adding some clarification there much needed clarification
00:33:08.700
i think that is a very promising sign uh the only thing is uh uh iran uh and and the ayatollahs
00:33:17.760
cannot have a nuclear weapon uh we're gonna go from the realm of religion uh right no one has invoked
00:33:23.640
the name of god yet that pay attention to that that matters on the theological level now we go down to
00:33:30.300
the strategic level no one better uh than our great friend sam faddis uh he has been breaking news
00:33:36.400
over the last week i've been following him on our intelligence uh i won't say failures but i'll
00:33:43.040
just tee up sam sam uh bring us up to speed what do we know because major decisions concerning american
00:33:49.780
lives uh depend on the information you're about ready to share um well great to be on with you thank you
00:33:58.340
very much um look uh end of march tulsi gabbard the director of national intelligence delivered an
00:34:07.700
assessment to congress and the short version of that assessment was iran doesn't have a nuclear
00:34:14.580
weapons program and in effect iran hasn't had a nuclear weapons program for close to 25 years
00:34:22.080
okay now again as i said to steve the other day i'm not knocking tulsi gabbard that assessment is
00:34:29.280
a required written product prepared by all the intelligence agencies it's her job as dci to read
00:34:34.180
the thing to congress she's not the one out collecting that intelligence on the ground but
00:34:38.760
the point is cia dia nsa everybody else in the entire intelligence community their joint product their
00:34:46.060
formal written assessment 10 weeks ago was there is not an iranian nuclear weapons program not it's
00:34:54.900
there is one but it's further away or anything else nuanced there is none and there hasn't been since
00:35:01.120
at least 2003 okay so now we all of a sudden have the israelis telling us that not only is there a
00:35:11.000
nuclear weapons program but the iranians are on the precipice potentially it depends on which time
00:35:19.000
the israelis spoke but potentially the israelis are saying look within days these guys can actually
00:35:24.480
have more than one functioning nuclear weapon so that's about as far apart as you can get in terms of
00:35:33.280
assessment that you could possibly imagine the israelis are telling us they have a program they've had a
00:35:38.220
program for decades and they're just about to the point where they actually have the weapons and we're
00:35:43.700
saying there is no program at all now somebody's wrong obviously and given the actions of the united states
00:35:54.500
supporting israel i think it's pretty clear that we have decided that we agree with the israelis
00:36:01.640
in other words we didn't respond by saying i don't know what you guys are thinking but
00:36:08.000
you're you're 100 wrong there is no prog there is no program knock it off we are in their corner we
00:36:16.340
are supporting them now there's a whole issue of what exactly that means and how far we're going to get
00:36:20.660
dragged down that rabbit hole but clearly we have the israelis back on this and i'm sure are providing
00:36:28.640
support of various kinds to them so that's a pretty big issue if our entire given the priority of the
00:36:38.660
iranian nuclear weapons program the fact that it's been our policy for a really long time that they
00:36:43.500
can't have nuclear weapons the idea that our entire intelligence community has missed that program for
00:36:52.220
decades is kind of catastrophic right i mean you need to focus on that and somebody needs to answer
00:37:00.340
some questions and then not just answer some questions but we need in a big hurry to make
00:37:07.320
whatever changes we need to make because what it means is we're blind and one of the many implications
00:37:15.560
that obviously if we're blind on this god knows what else we're blind on but one of the big implications
00:37:20.920
of that is if we're totally blind and the israelis are providing this information and i say this is a
00:37:27.400
friend of israel then it effectively means that the israelis are leading us around if we're 100
00:37:35.740
percent dependent on their intelligence right then they're driving the train and i'm a friend of israel
00:37:42.340
but i'm more of a friend of the united states of america and we can't be in the position of having a
00:37:52.140
yeah uh thanks for your work on this i i intuitively share uh your logic right there and then you know
00:38:02.240
everything hangs on the rabbit hole we're going down uh you know in our cia this is nothing novel
00:38:07.900
right this started back way back i mean at world war one but cia in 53 we knock out mosedeck he's a
00:38:14.000
secular constitutional kind of guy who had it wrong on oil prices or something as far as the u.s is
00:38:19.100
concerned so we knock him out and 30 years later we got a islamic revolution on our hands and then
00:38:24.960
netanyahu's on the record saying before the iraq war i guarantee you if you knock out iraq it's going
00:38:30.880
to go just great for the usa and it did not go great for the usa right and so the the major issue is
00:38:37.720
and i you know everybody's waiting to hit we all want to support israel we don't want iran to have
00:38:43.180
nukes that's all widely agreed upon president trump shares that logic uh yoram came on the other day
00:38:50.240
and said they can assure that happens but now the whole world looks like and we're we're sending
00:38:56.080
aircraft carriers it looks like the cause's belly right that the cause of war is just like it was
00:39:03.280
uh before iraq uh brand new intelligence out of out of thin air they got weapons of mass destruction
00:39:10.720
uh the mainstream media and all the cia cutouts moving to position uh there's a whole new narrative
00:39:16.760
uh the war room posse knows more than it's ever known thanks to people like you and bannon and we're
00:39:23.180
all just going not so fast we're just not buying this and so surely uh if you're right our intelligence
00:39:30.880
agencies there must be something they can share with us a picture some form of tangible receipts
00:39:36.960
like we want on the war room for uh this newly found nuclear capacity which i intuitively i'm
00:39:43.160
i kind of buy that uh but then uh israel can take it out on its own and so why uh we're shifting into
00:39:50.920
language of taking out their political leaders uh in addition to decapitating the the military leaders
00:39:58.060
and so uh guide us uh forward sam well i think you have brought us to the critical question right all of
00:40:05.120
a sudden and unfortunately we have seen this before in washington all of a sudden we've gone from
00:40:11.040
talking about taking out the nuclear program which in and of itself taking it out and
00:40:16.800
and preventing them from reconstituting it in other words taking it out and really ending the issue
00:40:24.360
is a lot more complicated than most people want to understand um but now all of a sudden we hear
00:40:33.580
this verbiage finish the job finish the job which apparently is code for topple the ayatollas
00:40:39.300
and and the way i feel about this is the way i feel about people talking about going to war in
00:40:44.800
general it's like okay this is not a playground fight man and and hope is not a plan so why
00:40:52.560
how how do you how will it be better i mean do i hate the ayatollas sure i worked against them for
00:40:58.460
decades i worked with a lot of very good men who were no longer with us who died horribly
00:41:02.880
trying to get rid of this regime it's an abomination wishing they were gone doesn't constitute
00:41:10.100
a plan how exactly do you intend to get rid of them how and how do you know that what you're going
00:41:17.720
to replace it with will be better and won't just be thugs of a different kind or different faces but
00:41:25.920
the same the same madness and we're already seeing so many things not just not just that we saw in
00:41:31.880
iraq but we've seen many other places we get all these guys that pop up on the news in the united
00:41:37.820
states who've been living here for 25 years in exile who assure us that they're going to return
00:41:43.380
to iran and it'll be kinder and gentler and a liberal democratic government okay and uh that's great
00:41:50.900
i i that's a wonderful fantasy uh do do these guys actually have any following in iran i mean
00:41:58.260
they're living here in in in comfort and they haven't been home for decades does anybody in iran
00:42:05.320
actually follow them the other day i was uh reading an article about somebody explaining to me
00:42:10.940
explaining to us that we were going to lash up with the kurdish groups inside uh iran and they were
00:42:17.700
going to topple the government okay well i've spent a lot of time with the kurds uh fighting
00:42:22.580
alongside them but uh you know 90 plus million iranians maybe 10 of that population is the kurd so
00:42:31.140
10 of the population that lives in one really in one region will topple the entire government by the
00:42:38.060
way some of those groups are communist organizations is that the plan now i mean in general what what's
00:42:45.460
missing here is any sober calculus and assessment you're getting ready to to take on a task that
00:42:53.960
potentially leads to massive bloodshed and war and all we're getting is a bunch of catch phrases and
00:43:00.980
slogans yes yeah on that that's not how this works on that one on that one sam i think you just put
00:43:06.900
your finger on it and i think we do have massive uh intelligence on what the logic of this looks like
00:43:14.700
worked out by rand corporation and other theorists uh and no one's mentioning pakistan russia turkey
00:43:23.280
china taiwan there's a natural sequence of events and when we say we love israel i do love israel
00:43:30.700
and i i do not want them to bear the brunt of the world coming up after this whatever we do right
00:43:36.480
so we take out one bad guy another bad guy could come in we have 20 million illegal aliens in this
00:43:42.460
country surely some of them are not friendly to president trump if we go after their political
00:43:47.400
leader i do not want to think about what could happen to our president the entire you know much
00:43:53.060
less his agenda all the secretaries under him will shift their duties immediately if we get into a
00:43:58.300
full spread war every secretary uh will shift all resources immediately at this war and so can you
00:44:04.720
can you speak a little bit about the the the world of rand and there there are many analyses out there
00:44:11.780
that do not end up good i and i think that's the dominant theory that's why i'm bringing this up i think
00:44:16.980
we do have analysis and it's not pretty and just so folks know like uh when i went out to analyze the
00:44:23.660
costs of war right the the post 9 11 war scenario has cost us over eight trillion dollars according
00:44:29.040
to brown university uh they don't have any analysis of the ukraine war this is all political and then
00:44:35.440
when you go to look up at the deaths in ukraine the russian deaths are 1.2 million etc and the deaths
00:44:41.000
in ukraine are like in the tens of thousands but that's by the economist magazine so you're seeing
00:44:46.840
propaganda warfare the only thing you're seeing is a very biased view of what war looks like
00:44:52.220
on behalf of uh the the interest of the swamp up in dc congress is way too favorable here when when
00:44:58.960
70 80 percent of the american people want no part of this and so can you kind of give us a little
00:45:05.100
shock and awe with what these rand type analyses uh predict uh if the genie gets out of the bottle big
00:45:12.420
time and the u.s ends up with troops on the ground because israel does not have enough troops uh to go
00:45:17.120
and fight in iran yeah well look in my estimation the idea that the united states is going to end up
00:45:23.320
with ground troops on on the troops on the ground inside iran fighting to liberate that country that's
00:45:32.080
insanity that's that's madness people that posit that kind of thing have absolutely no idea what
00:45:41.260
they're talking about you're talking about you're talking about casualty rates that the average
00:45:45.960
american can't even fathom we're not we're not talking about a news report a couple of guys got
00:45:52.300
blown up yesterday which is horrifying enough you're talking about hundreds thousands of people
00:45:58.780
potentially dying every day and wound you're talking about casualty rates that make anything we saw
00:46:05.140
in iraq and afghanistan look like absolutely nothing but you know i keep coming back to this is
00:46:13.820
when you're talking about war what you know it it needs to be a really sober calculus it's not an
00:46:24.160
emotion thing you don't throw a couple of punches get a fat lip and then it's all over you don't go
00:46:30.580
down that road without being calm and cold and calculating yep sam fattis uh thank you uh very
00:46:38.540
much for uh joining us on the war room uh these are the most serious of days folks uh we need to all
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uh and he'll share that with you but marlon if you want to just comment uh on what you heard sam
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faddis on the war any comments there and then i would love to hear your updates on what's happening
00:53:02.180
with the budget uh what's happening with the economy in your own uh hometown area what are you hearing
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uh what would a war do to that uh and uh thanks for being with us marlon yeah hey great to be with
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you dave great to see you i was excited to be on the show with steve bannon and then they said uh
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that's generous you too man good yeah but uh but no you're you know great to be with you and
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and you're exactly right uh you know i was just actually with a group uh you know folks here in
00:53:37.920
northeast indiana the fort wayne area where uh you know manufacturing heart of the heartland and
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agriculture are strong areas of industry for us uh transportation so uh coming from the heartland
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this morning and hearing from constituents uh what they're concerned about and obviously a lot of the
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you know we talked a lot of economics uh but also talked a lot about the unrest in the middle east
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and uh there's a lot of concern but i tell you what uh i i am so grateful that president trump is
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the president he's the strongest negotiator he's the strongest diplomat that america's had since
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uh president ronald reagan and i'm i'm thankful that he's at the wheel here uh dealing with the
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circumstances that we're facing right now and i trust that he's going to make the right decisions
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uh he's uh been in the business world his whole life he's a strong negotiator and and i you know
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uh we i agree with the fact that we don't want to see iran with any sort of nuclear program i mean not
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for utilities uh because then we know they would use it for a bomb and and i also support israel uh doing
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what they believe they need to do to defend themselves i was in israel a couple weeks ago uh and saw the uh
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the concern uh regarding a nuclear iran but also saw where hamas attacked them on the southern border
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while we were there houthis were sending rockets in from yemen and so it's a very dangerous part of
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the world and uh and what i really believe dave is we were talking about just briefly is that it
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shouldn't be just israel and the united states dealing with iran we need the saudis we need the
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turks we need other countries in that region uh because if iran had a nuclear weapon it would be
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like them having a gun and they could just point it at anybody they wanted and leveraging them and so
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it shouldn't be just israel and the united states uh that uh that deal with this problem it should also
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be uh other countries in the region and greater parts of the civilized world yeah well i'm happy too
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president trump is the master negotiator uh unfortunately in the west uh we all and i
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think probably trump does even on business deals assumes rationality and we'll see uh whether the
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religious leaders over in iran respond and but your point is is right uh you know we want this whole
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community trump's got pressure uh to bear on tariffs and whatever but boy right now it's going to be a
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hard sell because uh we're going uh in hardcore right now on iran and you just heard sam fattis with
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all the uh all the cautionary notes uh he provided uh what what are you hearing uh on the economy
00:56:17.780
you know it's kind of mixed uh president trump's putting in all the supply side pieces that you know
00:56:25.020
there's a lag on that to take effect we're still living kind of under the biden economy fiscal
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policy's got about a year lag on it and uh we're still two trillion deficit spending a year the
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federal reserve is still out of control they haven't pulled back their trillions on the balance sheet uh
00:56:43.200
what are you hearing on the economy uh are your folks starting to see a turn or is it still pretty
00:56:48.220
flat it's there's nervousness um there's optimism because they believe that trump's doing the right
00:56:55.820
thing by resetting the economic stage uh you know and of course with us in the the midwest we have
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seen a decline over the past several decades uh with manufacturing leaving the midwest and going to
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other parts of the world whether it's mexico or whether it's china and and just for a quick example
00:57:14.340
you know agriculture of course is the largest industry in indiana but manufacturing is a close second
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i mean we've got steel companies automobile companies uh orthopedic companies i mean we can
00:57:25.040
build and manufacture just about anything here and uh but uh you know over time over the last several
00:57:31.220
decades we've seen a slow decline in population because of our trade policy so there's an understanding
00:57:37.040
and a support for president trump because there's not a good time to do this especially coming off the
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heels of a biden administration it was a horrible time to do it but but when else do you do it
00:57:47.000
and trump's doing it and and so you throw on top of this war and well i guess what bothers me is
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that you know we have some people in washington that say you know when this whole thing started
00:57:57.700
with israel and iran like hey game on well this is not a game uh this is something that has to be
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handled very delicately we want to make sure israel's secure we want to make sure america's secure
00:58:08.280
uh so trump's got a big uh task in front of him but i trust that he's the guy to do it
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yeah well marlon you put your finger on the most important thing and the trump agenda is bringing
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jobs back for americans america first uh indiana i grew up in michigan and minnesota a little bit up
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there in your country i love uh the people of your great state you're a great leader how do people get
00:58:29.680
to you marlon if they want to follow you and uh your agenda check us at reps gutsman on all social
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