Episode 4621: Demanding And Unseal The Epstein Files; Sealing Our Borders From Foreign Cattle
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Former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan are the latest to be targeted by the Department of Justice in a revenge tour that was promised during the campaign. We talk about why this is happening and what it means for the future of the country.
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Department of Justice has confirmed that former FBI director Jim Comey and former CIA director
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John Brennan are under criminal investigation. It is unclear why. And the New York Times is
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reporting that the Secret Service tailed Comey's car and tracked his phone.
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We are now facing a situation where even Trump's base isn't necessarily feeling good about the DOJ.
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Are they all going to feel good about this? I mean, these are original characters in the revenge tour,
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right? Yes. I mean, James Comey, John Brennan. If you go all the way back to before Trump was
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president in 2016, these guys were public enemy number one among the MAGA base. So it's always
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going to get some amount of fanfare from the president's supporters to go after these guys.
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And we saw what happened after James Comey posted that that Instagram, right? Yes. The 8647. I mean,
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that really seemed to spark all of this stuff with him. Brennan being dragged in right now.
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They're really trying to redo a lot of the Russia stuff with what the CIA had come out and said.
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So, I mean, this is par for the course, but this is a key part of the revenge tour that was really
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promised during the campaign. We're in a place in which we are watching Donald Trump weaponize
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the Department of Justice against his political enemies. This is not the first, by the way. He has
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indicted a congresswoman from New Jersey. He actually arrested the mayor of Newark, although then those
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charges got dropped. They threw to the ground a U.S. Senator, Alex Padilla in California, for trying
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to ask a question. They manhandled the New York City comptroller, Brad Lander, for trying to walk
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a migrant out of a courtroom. So we have watched this step after step. And by the way, I can keep
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going on and on. I mean, you have Donald Trump going to the Department of Justice and calling me
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a communist and other things, the executive orders targeting me and other lawyers, the executive
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orders targeting law firms that we were affiliated with, you know, the criminal, the executive
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directives to for investigations of Chris Krabs. Right. You have covered this. He's so exemplary,
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Nicole. You have helped catalog this. But we are quickly going to a place in which Donald Trump is
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doing this and it is being normalized. And so I wrote something for Democracy Docket five, six months ago
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that you and I talked about at the time, which is we were we predicted you and I and others that we
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were going to get to this moment. And the question is, what do we do? Yesterday's assault marked the largest
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single day attacks on Ukraine. And it comes as President Trump has begun to voice a new level
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of support for Ukraine and also frustration with Russian President Vladimir Putin. On Monday,
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Trump said the U.S. will continue to help Ukraine defend itself by sending more weapons.
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On Tuesday, during a cabinet meeting, Trump dismissed Putin's rhetoric on peace efforts as
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meaningless talk. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Marco Rubio is meeting with Russian Foreign Minister
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Sergei Lavrov on the sidelines of a summit in Malaysia. It comes as Senate Majority Leader John
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Thune says substantial progress is being made on a bipartisan effort to expand sanctions targeting
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Russia. According to Thune, the legislation could come to a vote between now and August 1st.
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The sanctions bill would be designed to bolster President Trump's leverage at the negotiation
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table in an effort to stop the war. The president goes ballistic about the U.S. trade deficit with
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every country. That's the reason he wants to do this. But for fact's sake, the office of the U.S.
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trade representative says that last year we had a seven billion dollar trade surplus with Brazil.
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And in his letter, Trump also raises, I said it a moment ago, the former president Bolsonaro's
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prosecution. Doesn't this show that this isn't about trade deficits? This is about the president
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yielding his power. He's saying he doesn't like how the former president is being treated. He wants
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the trial being canceled. And that's how he now plans to use our trade policies for his political agenda.
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I mean, look, Stephanie, it's a great point. He's being very clear that the actions on Brazil don't
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have anything to do with trade, right? It's about the handling of the criminal charges against
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President Bolsonaro. Which has nothing to do with U.S. manufacturing, U.S. consumers or U.S. jobs.
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And it gets to, I think, something Isaac was talking about, right? He sees tariffs not as something to
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kind of change this whole array of unfair trade practices, but they are a tool that he has to wield power
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and bring people to the table, right? But by continuing to delay this, not implement them,
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go back on his word, you know, these countries are going to be sitting there, you know, markets
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aren't reacting, right? But these countries are going to be sitting there being like, OK, how fast
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do we need to make a deal? Because if he continues to push the deadline back, where is the impetus
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for them to come to the table and be like, no, we have to make a deal. We have to make a deal.
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What do large institutions do? You know, what do civil society groups do? What does the media do?
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And I am imploring, like, honestly, I'm just imploring the media, do not report this as a
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legitimate investigation. Do not report this as they're opening a investigation into John Brennan.
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We will see where it goes. Report this as the misuse, the abuse, the authoritarian takeover of
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the Department of Justice. That should be the headline. The headline should be in a misuse and abuse of the
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power of the executive branch. Donald Trump has asked his Department of Justice to to open
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a bogus investigation into John Brennan. And if you don't do that, then the media is going to wind
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up in the same position the law firm has wound in, same position that CBS has wound up in,
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the same position that that that many, many individual civil servants have wound up in,
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that nobody is going to speak out when they are next targeted. So it is important that we all stand
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up for each other. We all stand up for John Brennan. We all stand up for the misuse of government
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power, whether it's going after a civil servant, or it's going after a former director of the CIA,
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or whether it's going after a media organization, or it's going after a law firm. But my fear is that
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we are not doing that. Everyone is, is sort of playing tightly in their lane because they don't
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want to be next in line. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies,
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because we're going medieval on these people. Here's one time I got a free shot at all these
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networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like
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hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going
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to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself,
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what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will
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be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Thursday, 10 July, year of our Lord 2025. You saw right there in the engine room, picked it up
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quickly on the cold open. Mark Elias has rattled. Mark Elias has rattled. Weissman's rattled. We
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didn't have enough time and you've got so much going on in the show today to play a longer cold
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open. Weissman's rattled. Brennan's rattled. And to show you the gap between the bid and the ask,
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we don't think the Justice Department is weaponized enough. Not even close.
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Remember, and we're going to talk about Navarro today. He's got his prison book. We're going to
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launch it here. Navarro went to prison. I went to prison. They tried to, by the way, Tom Barrack,
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the ambassador to Turkey and the special envoy to, I think, the Levant, Syria and Lebanon and all those
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nations there that he's working on. He went to, he was in jail for 10 or 12, for two weeks
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in some hell hole out in San Bernardino. Tom Barrack. They tried to put President Trump away
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for 350 years. This is why yesterday, President Trump drops the 50% tariff on Lula. The follow-on
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on this show trial for Bolsonaro, who they're going to find guilty, putting him in prison,
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they're going to assassinate him. And he's up in the polls. Breaking news. In South Korea,
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remember all the time we spent there? John Mills, Ambassador Jan, all the great folks we've
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worked with on the Korean election. I think they put an arrest warrant out for President
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Youn, the conservative, the CCP-controlled government. Suck on that. They raided the
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headquarters, the offices of Front National or National Assembly, Le Pen's group overnight.
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The thing, they have two things that work for them. They have the intelligence services in
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the deep state, this interconnecting national security apparatus and these radical neo-Marxist
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judges and courts. And that comes up. We're working on some stuff now that's going to make
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your head blow up. We've got a book in the works that your head's going to blow up of the entire
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chain of custody of how these people are radicalized from the time they're in kindergarten
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in the most elite schools in the nation, all the way up to the universities, the law schools.
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It's an entire system. We have a systemic problem. This is why the war against the deep state and what
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they've done. We've got to take it up to DEFCON 1, not what we're doing now. We're in Namby Pamby
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land. And look, we're doing fine. You got Brennan, you got others. The guys ought to be being
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perp walked out now. It's obvious. And I said this, remember I gave the talk at Semaphore.
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Semaphore had the, what they're trying to do, uh, Semaphore, uh, Ben Smith and his team over
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there. Good news site. It's, it's left. They got Dave Weigel does a good job. Dave's been covering
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really this side of the, the political spectrum. He was very close to Andrew, not buddies, but I think
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he was at the Washington Post at the time, but followed Andrew Breitbart and really made Andrew
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Breitbart, one of the guys that made Andrew Breitbart a national figure for his coverage.
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They're over there. They're trying to do a, um, a Davos in Washington, DC. Remember I spoke at it.
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They asked me to come and do a Q and a, and at the end of it, that Ben Smith, I think interviewed
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me and asked me, you know, any kind of closing observations. I said, Hey, look, you got two
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choices here. And you, and this is all the elites and all the bankers and the hedge fund
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guys that are all over the world. They're in DC. It's during the, it's during, it's World Bank
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and IMF weeks. All the pigs are at the trough. And I said, yo, you got, it's very simple.
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You got two choices. You either going to get on board the populist nationalist movement
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in the United States under president Trump, MAGA, right? Or you're going to have more Luigi,
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was it Mangiones? It's either going to, I've said this now for over a decade, either going
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to have a French revolution type where Madame Guillotine is going to be out there in the
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sharpening the blade, or we're going to make some fundamental changes in this country for
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the people and citizens of this nation. Full stop. That's your choice. No other choice.
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And look at what's happening in the streets of New York. That's just a political, that's
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a political manifestation of Luigi. They're talking now about seizing your condos and all
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the billionaires. The billionaires are going to leave all that. Look, take the kid at face
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value. Take him at face value. People dismissed Obama. Take him at face value. And you've brought
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this on the elite, the progressive elites in New York city. This is your problem. You brought this
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on yourself. As I said, for a long time, you've brought it on yourself and now you want us to
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bail you out. We're supposed to bail you out. One thing we're going to do is we're going to take
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apart this deep state. We have to do it now. That's the war. And it's manifested in this war here in
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the United States of America about mass deportations, mass amnesty, because all, all the,
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all the devils and demons are coming together against the American people and American citizens.
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And particularly now that they're freaked out, we're building a coalition with African-American,
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particularly African-American men and Hispanic, particularly Hispanic men. And our coalition
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is, is getting bigger. They're coming at every different aspect. This is what this whole
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agriculture thing with the amnesty. And we got to, you know, we have to give people amnesty
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because they don't want jobs for low-skilled workers. They want those wages suppressed.
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This is the whole situation with artificial intelligence. We're going to go to Geneva in a moment.
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We're going to go back to the justice part. Catherine O'Neill is going to join us. Big victory with
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Catherine O'Neill on the border. I'll let her explain it to you what she's been fighting for.
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In Meriwether Farms. This AI. Okay, folks. Remember the 99 to 1 vote and everybody flipped?
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I tell you, it's never over. They're trying to slip in. I kid you not. In the dark of night,
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in NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, because they got to authorize this because
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they're going to spend a trillion dollars. They're going to slip in the exact AI moratorium.
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Kid you not. The House is trying to do it in the Senate. Also, the rescissions, which didn't get
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included in the reconciliation, get pulled at $9.3 billion. Lead story on the Hill is that the
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Republican Senate, so the concern about Elmo, because Elmo's talking deficits and debts and
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how they're going to do it. The $9.4 billion rescission package. Remember we talked about this
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thing? Runs that on July 18th. $9.4 billion. You're going to have a deficit this year of $2.5 trillion.
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$2.5 trillion. $9.4 billion. Wait for it. Not going to get passed. Unless you, this audience, pushes
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over the top. I think the Senate better wake up to something in the House. We don't like rescissions.
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We don't like coming back up there and asking you guys for anything. President Trump, and pound the
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frickin' money. Play hardball. Let's play smash mouth with the U.S. Senate right now. Let's do it.
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So we're going to get back to the DOJ in a moment. They've got to, first off, I think it's
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no doubt they have to go and demand, they have to go to the court and demand and unseal
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the sealed evidence in Epstein. That starts, it starts there. Then bundle everything together
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you got, sealed and unsealed, and release it all. Or, which I've called for yesterday,
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appoint a special, he should appoint a special prosecutor, special counsel now for the 2020
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election and everything after that. And include Russiagate and all this, you have to do that.
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That should be done immediately. And that should report to the President of the United States.
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And also, they should do one if you can't. If DOJ can't move off the dime, and the FBI
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can't move off the dime, there should be a special counsel to go through everything and release
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it all. It seems to me like a binary function, right? So DOJ, to me, should step up to the
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plate and just go to the court. Step one, go to the court, petition the court to unseal all
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the evidence. And then let people make their mind up. Let people weigh and measure what's
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there. Make their mind up. The only way you can do it is release it all. It's not going
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to go away. I don't think this thing's going to go away. And I've told folks, this is not
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going to go away. You've got to release everything. Just release it all. I don't think there's
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any middle ground. And they talk about the downloaded child, this downloaded child porn
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would then set up a five-man committee headed by Tom Fenton. Pick somebody that people
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think or understand is totally even-handed and let them review it and redact what you
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got to redact and release the rest. Redact, release it all and redact it where it's, you
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know, the victims are in parallel, are in peril. The only way you're going to do it, this
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is the thing with the Kennedy. After all those years with the Kennedy, because it's kind of
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the same, all those years with the Kennedy. And this is directly tied, as you know, to the
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intelligence services. It'll get back to that and to the deep state. And that's what
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we've had two coups. We had a coup against Kennedy, where they killed him. And now they
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admit, they admit that Oswald was on their payroll. Don't, don't lose sight of the importance
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of what the CIA put out. Kind of as a misdirection play the other day, given the CIA's, let's face
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it. They're working with the Mossad and we don't really understand the intelligence, the
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urgency of the intelligence that caused us to get involved in a kinetic way in this
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Persian, this Iranian situation. We just don't. And Radcliffe gave you a misdirection
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play. But hey, we'll take it as long as you don't take your eye off the prize. The release
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of that on CIA puts the whole thing to a lie. This is why they lied about it for what's,
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you know, decade after decade after decade. Was it six or seven decades? Lied about it.
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He was on the payroll of a group that there was a front group for them. And they knew it.
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And they knew that they had him on the payroll. That's why they didn't want to answer any questions
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about it. They buried that, hid it worse than the FBI hid their stuff, which remember, in
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the FBI, you think the FBI was bad on 9-11 of hiding information of what happened and what
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their responsibility and culpability is? Look in the Kennedy. They tore up the notes that they
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had the note that Oswald gave him like a week, two weeks before the assassination,
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when he came to the FBI field office. The FBI and the CIA are not working in the interest
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of American people. Have not. They've worked in the interest of the American empire. They
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have. Post-World War II. And you've had coup after coup. The Nixon coup was part of this
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judicial apparatus coming in. Judge Sharik and these guys. Read Jeffrey Shepard's book.
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You want to understand Watergate. Don't forget Woodward and Bernstein. Read Jeff Shepard's
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books. Two books on the judicial coup against Nixon. Got him out of office. Supported by
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the deep state, by the CIA and the FBI. The guy that was that deep throat, which gave – Woodward
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and Bernstein were a couple of local beat reporters. They had nothing. They got everything fed to
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them by deep throat. You know who deep throat was? Was the deputy director of the FBI who
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got passed over by Nixon when Hoover died and hated Nixon. And Nixon called it, I think
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the second meeting on tape in Watergate. Nixon names the guy. Watch that guy. He's an enemy.
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Yeah, he turned out to be a real enemy. My point, the apparatus again, they tried to take
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Trump out. This is what the whole Brennan, the act of criminal conspiracy. It's not – when
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people tell you it's about just perjury in front of the house or you're running out of
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time here, the statute of limitations. No, it's an act of criminal conspiracy. That's
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what they should be going after. I think we can report here they've been paneled a grand
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jury, criminal grand jury. That leak was a purposeful leak to also take people off this
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last. But you've got to get to the – the only way you have to have full transparency on
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all this. They ought to declassify all of this stuff immediately. And they're saying,
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well, sources and methods, we have to ask the question, who's the bigger enemy? The
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Chinese intelligence or our own intelligence? The Chinese Communist Party is the mortal enemy
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of its own people and the American people. One of the questions we have not answered on
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the Chinese Communist Party, 25 of our agents. You know, Angleton, the legendary Angleton who
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did so much of this at the CIA and really ran the deal for decade after decade, you know,
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was this guy that they had a leak. They had a, you know, a agent that had flipped and he
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went on this, like Les Mis, he went on this search for 20 years to find the mole and destroyed
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careers and had people commit suicide and destroyed lives to find it. He was obsessed with getting
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it. Well, we've had something a couple of years ago, I think 25 or 50 of our agents, all Chinese,
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were rounded up in a matter of very short period of time because a mole in the CIA or the FBI or the
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CIA in this regard had given them up. Have we seen the same type of Angleton-type obsession? We get
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into the bottom of that. No, we haven't. No, we haven't. You talk to people around. No, we haven't.
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Why is that? How can you lose all your human intelligence? How can you lose all your human
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intelligence and the best you've got rounded up? And believe me, folks, the demise of those
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individuals, I'm sure, was quite horrific. Died in service to the country. That's where they got those
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stars on the wall when you walk into the CIA, that wall of honor because their names are to never,
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never be known because they were, you know, espionage undercover.
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The deep state's the enemy. And you see him want to see Mark Gillespie, how nervous he is.
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You see Weissman, you see how nervous he is. You see Brennan, how nervous they are.
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They're nervous and we're just starting the process. We're just starting the process.
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And that's why I don't, I think, because first off, we have very little grip.
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We have a tenuous hold on the FBI. We got two people, you know, with thousands, tens of thousands
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of employees, which should be cut in half immediately with Tom Fitton on this, have been from day one.
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And by the way, they shouldn't be taking big office space down the Reagan building. They should move
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out of the Hoover building, take the thing apart, just put a sign there that this was the,
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the, a building, a horrible brutalist architecture building was here at one point in time to enslave
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and imperil the American people. Full stop. Nothing ever grows there again. Let's have a Carthaginian
00:24:14.980
piece. Let's go down and salt the earth around it. No, no, no flowers, trees, nothing, just barren right
00:24:20.220
there, right there on Constitution Avenue, right there in the middle of the imperial capital for all time.
00:24:26.440
So people know, and they don't need to go to the Reagan building. I agree with Fitton.
00:24:31.880
Give, you know, give Cash and Bongino, give Dan and Cash a couple offices, he'll give them space,
00:24:37.920
sublet it down at the Judicial Watch, and have a couple other people, a couple assistants,
00:24:43.160
everybody else out of here. Cut it in half and then send the rest into the field.
00:24:46.640
We're in the deep states that were with us across the world. This is what President Trump is finally
00:24:53.860
standing up to, and he's been working on it for a time, I mean, to drop the bomb now, and also coincide
00:24:58.140
with the BRICS nations. We told you, why do you think we sent Philip Patrick and the team down for
00:25:03.500
birch gold? It's so important to understand what's going on, and President Trump gets it, that 50% tariff.
00:25:09.340
Let's say 30% of that is for Bolsonaro, another 20, put it on top, layer it on top. That's get your
00:25:17.540
attention. He told them, hey, the BRICS nations, you get cute here. I'm trying to get off the dollar,
00:25:23.620
trying to de-dollarization, trying to destroy the dollar, and therefore try to destroy the United
00:25:27.240
States of America. You're not going to do it. You're not going to get a free shot on gold.
00:25:32.200
And President Trump proved that. Look what happened in France yesterday.
00:25:36.560
Le Pen's ahead in the polls. Bolsonaro's ahead in the polls. Le Pen's got, I don't know,
00:25:43.740
four years in prison, some sentence hanging over her. Bolsonaro's in trial for his life
00:25:48.800
because they put him in a Brazilian prison. They're going to assassinate him. They just
00:25:52.920
arrested Yoon last night, or they put the arrest warrant out for Yoon. Oh, they don't want,
00:25:57.820
there's all kind of evidence they don't want, they don't want a thing. This guy was the president
00:26:02.220
of South Korea. We told you on this show, this was going to happen. This is how they roll.
00:26:09.560
And people better understand, and the Trump administration better get this.
00:26:14.100
Folks, you don't take care of this now. They steal the election in 2028. You're all going to go to
00:26:19.080
prison. You're going to go to prison. They don't care what they'll make it up. Look at
00:26:25.020
Navarre myself for contempt of Congress, a misdemeanor that's always been handled civilly.
00:26:31.460
They don't care. They thought that was going to break us. They're shocked that we came back
00:26:34.600
stronger. Navarre's in the White House, the senior guy on the trade deals, and Bannon's back in the
00:26:40.580
war room. They never thought that'd happen. And they're shattered. But they never quit. They
00:26:47.280
never stop. This artificial, we're going to go to Geneva in a second. You'll see everything on
00:26:51.240
artificial intelligence. They're back. When you spoke with a clear voice and said, no, we do not
00:26:56.580
want a moratorium. We're not taking 10 years. We're not going to give it to Elmo and to David
00:27:02.740
Sachs and to Altman and all these guys, the four horsemen of the apocalypse that it takes requires
00:27:09.340
more, 10 times more regulation, open a nail salon here in Capitol Hill than it does any regulation on
00:27:17.100
artificial intelligence whatsoever because they don't want any regulation. It's all about
00:27:21.100
power that will lead to unbelievable wealth. NVIDIA today, folks, I think it's the first
00:27:27.460
company, $4 trillion market cap. He thinks a little money in there. Think it's a little
00:27:31.400
bit of money. Talk about NVIDIA and those chips. We're going to have the ambassador from
00:27:36.940
Taiwan. Dare I say the Republic of China? Hello. We're doing an interview this afternoon
00:27:44.180
with him. Talk about that, the advanced chip design and what's sitting there in Taiwan as we
00:27:50.180
take as we mark, we're on a path to war in Ukraine, a kinetic war in Ukraine because the
00:27:55.940
globalists, they need, they need a blood sacrifice now. Money and power is not enough. They need
00:28:01.380
a blood sacrifice. The million dead and wounded civilians in military for the Ukrainians, not
00:28:08.500
enough. They need more. Moloch deserves more. Moloch wants more. Therefore, Moloch's going to get
00:28:15.780
more. Get some. Let's get some. That's where we are today on a Thursday in the Imperial Capitol.
00:28:27.140
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You saw President Trump hit the 50 or hit Brazil with 50%. Part of that is the trial. Part of it is
00:30:03.240
BRICS. Philip Patrick and the team coming out of BRICS, hey, they're going to be very sneaky how they do
00:30:10.880
this, these bilateral deals where they're doing it in their own currency to get off the dollar. This is
00:30:15.060
the de-dollarization program. To do that and to hedge it properly, their central banks are going to
00:30:20.940
continue to buy gold. Philip Patrick says Birch Gold's official policy is at record rates, and they've
00:30:25.980
been the first one of these central banks buying it. Go to a couple ways to get, you need to get to
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and it's free. It's all the material we put out is free, and I'm going to get time. I don't think
00:30:56.720
I'll be able to do it. Also, go to the Student Action Summit. Can we put that up? Charlie Kirk,
00:31:01.640
we're going to be there all weekend. We want to have some breakout sessions with the posse,
00:31:05.680
so we look forward to seeing you there. It's going to be a great time. Great array of speakers.
00:31:12.940
And we'll talk about this at the time. So we got this letter from the university,
00:31:17.500
or from the finance professor. I'm going to read it on, a part of it on Monday when we're back in
00:31:22.040
studio. It's extraordinary, and it really shows the effort and work that the Birch Gold team
00:31:27.460
and the War Room put into putting out the End of the Dollar Empire, which you need to read
00:31:32.720
and understand. Seven free installments. We're working on the eighth right now post-Brazil. And
00:31:40.660
I'm proud of the fact that the Financial Times of London and the Wall Street Journal did not cover,
00:31:45.180
and Bloomberg did not cover the BRICS starting months ago, as well as the Birch Gold and War Room
00:31:52.260
team, and made this an issue with the American people, not just a bunch of finance nerds.
00:31:59.860
Birchgold.com slash Bannon, End of the Dollar Empire, get all the information, but most importantly,
00:32:04.100
get to Philip Patrick. If you need to, go to Getter, go to Getter and get into his DMs. He's there,
00:32:10.700
and boom, you hit him right there, he'll come back to you. Okay, let's go to Geneva. So right now,
00:32:16.700
they're trying to, and Grace, I need you to get Bill Blaster up, pushed out. Everybody in the
00:32:23.200
chats, push Bill Blaster. Everybody ought to be signed up in Bill Blaster. I think, I don't know.
00:32:27.980
We're closing in on 100,000 people who have downloaded it. Get to Bill Blaster. It's a tool
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that Grace worked on with her development team to make it easier for you, to better use of your time,
00:32:39.160
okay, to maximize your use of your time. They're trying to slip the moratorium, the 10-year
00:32:45.720
moratorium, back into the NDAA. The NDAA is 1,000 pages, right? Because remember, you're supposed
00:32:52.220
to reauthorize these departments like every five years, like the Justice Department and EPA.
00:32:58.060
They've gone decades without doing it. It's quite a, it's quite a bone of contention. It's one of the
00:33:03.180
things Matt Gaetz wanted to do. The Defense Department, they do an authorization every year because,
00:33:07.840
man, you cannot, that's where mother's milk comes through. So there can't be any controversy
00:33:12.520
about that. This authorization is big league. And what they're trying to do is slip in the
00:33:18.900
artificial intelligence moratorium that you, as the American people said, absolutely no way.
00:33:23.700
We still want the states involved. We want this whole thing slowed down. And this is not just about
00:33:28.180
podcasters and content creators. It's that too. They're, they're stealing because Elmo in this
00:33:34.460
crowd come in here and they want to suck up all the content for free and teach the machine,
00:33:39.140
put everything into Grok so he, then he can spit back pure hate. You see in that Grok situation?
00:33:45.720
And the hate is bad, right? The hate is bad, obviously. The hate is bad. But worse is that
00:33:54.020
the thing, it's the thing sitting there going, Hey, I run the deal. You don't, you know, you ever had
00:33:59.340
your child say when they're small, you're not the boss of me? Well, this is the machine telling you
00:34:04.840
ain't the boss of me. And whereas you can take corrective measures with your young charge to say,
00:34:11.820
well, I think you're incorrect there. Not so much with the machine. And this is what the whole
00:34:17.700
moratorium was. It wasn't for me. One of the things, obviously you had Blackburn, who's a hero
00:34:22.320
about all the child, the access to the children, what they're going to do with the children.
00:34:25.840
Horrible. She's been working on that forever. She was the, she was the, the leader that got
00:34:31.880
this thing shut down. He had MTG that told the president, Hey, I can't vote for this thing
00:34:35.660
in the house. And we need every, they needed every vote they could get. You had heroes on that. And
00:34:41.200
what is, what is the apparatus? What did they do immediately after? Well, they don't care about
00:34:45.360
your will. They don't care about you saying, we don't want this. What they're going to do is in the
00:34:50.120
dark of night and they, this is okay, well, let's find another, let's slip it into the NDAA. No way.
00:34:54.860
We'll out everybody. And even the gutless Ted Cruz, right? Who pimped for big tech on this
00:35:01.380
and was mocking Blackburn. It shows you what a quality guy he is. He flipped and voted for
00:35:07.160
the thing after leading the fight against it. Let me flip. So it's not on my record. I didn't
00:35:10.660
do that. They can't criticize me in war room. I didn't vote for this. Yo, dude. Caught, exposed,
00:35:18.040
unmasked. Let's go now to Geneva. We got Joe and, uh, Nor. Nor, tell us, uh, we're day
00:35:25.560
three there. We got one more day. Uh, you know, right now people are more fired up about this
00:35:30.960
AI than ever here because they see the potential amazing upside, but it's already being forced
00:35:37.060
in your life. You go to Google, you're going to get the AI summary, right? So it's, it's already
00:35:42.220
in your life, whether you want it or not, it's got tremendous upside, but it's also got unlimited
00:35:46.940
downside to look into the abyss. And particularly when you see the people in charge or who are making
00:35:51.800
decisions, that's where you should pretty, you shouldn't have, Elmo should have no decision
00:35:57.560
making authority in your life. He got a bad wake up call yesterday. His bestie was head
00:36:02.420
of NASA until Sergio Gore and others brought up the fact that the guy was a progressive Democrat
00:36:07.960
that hated president Trump and had been, uh, putting up, you know, given to all these candidates
00:36:11.920
that hate president Trump. So, and, and, and Elmo put him in there. So he would approve all the
00:36:18.520
SpaceX stuff and give him more, right? Cause that's what Elmo's about. And now president Trump announced
00:36:25.040
yesterday, he went to the opposite end of the spectrum. He went to Sean Duffy, as you remember,
00:36:28.960
cause we covered it. Sean Duffy would not back off Elmo in the cabinet room when Elmo, uh, when Duffy
00:36:35.320
goes, yo, man, we got all these issues with air traffic controllers, your Doge guys go in there,
00:36:40.380
these 19 year old kids, you're laying off half my air traffic controllers, not going to work.
00:36:43.800
You're not going to, I'm the secretary of transportation. You're just some schmendrick
00:36:47.780
that's wandering around here. So it's not going to happen. And they had to throw it in the cabinet
00:36:52.260
and the president backed Sean Duffy. Sean Duffy's now the interim head of NASA. Guess what?
00:36:56.540
I don't think all the SpaceX stuff's going to get approved like it was approved.
00:37:01.080
And SpaceX should be national. Well, here's what I mean by that. You don't own any SpaceX.
00:37:07.540
SpaceX, I think 97% of the revenues come from the U S government. We don't own any warrants,
00:37:13.500
no options. You don't own any stock yet. It's completely financed by the U S government,
00:37:18.240
a company like that. 50% of it, the share should not just the government. They should parse it out
00:37:23.840
to every taxpayer, give people a little taste. If you're going to finance it, that's what he's
00:37:28.740
freaking out about. He owns 50%. I think it's a $315 billion valuation. It's a hundred billion or
00:37:34.520
150 billion. How does that work? That should not work like that. That should not work like that.
00:37:39.840
And it's not going to work like that. You're going to have some sophisticated deconstruction of some
00:37:43.920
of these people, some of these particularly defense contractors that are up on the tit of
00:37:49.200
the U S government. Not going to happen. Can't happen. That's what the scam is. And their power
00:37:55.680
comes from it. Let's go to Geneva. Artificial intelligence for the good put on by the United
00:38:00.600
Nations in our favorite town, Geneva. Nothing happened. Nothing happened under the table there.
00:38:06.420
There's no, no three car, no dealing from the bottom of the deck in Geneva, nor bin Laden.
00:38:11.720
Hi, Steve. Absolutely. You know, I was thinking about this and speaking with Joe, the title of the
00:38:20.040
conference is AI for good, but it could easily be renamed to AI forever because if they have their
00:38:26.540
way, this is what we're going to get. And they are, they keep talking about the same thing over and
00:38:32.700
over again about how AI is basically going to supercharge all of our society. And today in
00:38:40.700
particular, the main theme is AI governance, government, governments using AI to transform
00:38:48.280
and digitize all of our country's services. And, um, to that effect, we had the president of the
00:38:55.900
Republic of Estonia, Mr. Alar Karas. And he has been really, or the country rather has been
00:39:02.600
at the forefront of this transformation. For the past three decades, Estonia has completely
00:39:08.000
transformed the nation into a digital nation, essentially with, I think, over 98% of all
00:39:15.020
government services already digitized, and they are nowhere near stopping, um, with AI. AI is going
00:39:21.700
to supercharge that, bring it to the 100%. And Estonia is really being used as a case study for all
00:39:28.340
other nations in the world. And, um, the president said something very interesting, a short quote. He
00:39:33.880
said, technology doesn't care about borders. We heard that before, uh, during the COVID era,
00:39:40.220
you know, how viruses don't care about borders while technology doesn't care about borders. And, uh,
00:39:46.120
the UN really is the institution at the center, at the heart of the international rules-based order
00:39:53.140
in order to bring about this transformation, uh, throughout the world. And this is very clear
00:40:00.000
at this conference. Amazing. Joe, observations, thoughts? So, Steve, I've spent most of the day
00:40:08.280
today talking to various people, some experts who don't want to appear on the war room, at least
00:40:15.120
not yet, and some who do. You'll see those interviews soon. The theme that I think in the conversations I'm
00:40:22.680
having, a lot of these guys are really concerned about existential risk, the surveillance risk,
00:40:29.480
the human atrophy risk. And one of them pointed out something that I, it slipped me. None of the
00:40:36.180
major frontier labs have representatives here, other than you might say Meta with Jan LeCun. And the
00:40:44.420
dynamic that that exposes, the UN and the various other international organizations here are fatalistic
00:40:52.660
in regard to AI. They understand that the progress is going to keep going and going. And many believe
00:40:58.760
it's going to AGI and then super intelligence, but they are not the ones who are building it.
00:41:04.020
They are not the ones who are deploying it. They are basically trying to harness it and hang on for
00:41:10.240
dear life. They want to remain relevant in its control, but the real driving force behind this
00:41:16.440
are the companies in the U.S. OpenAI, Google, XAI, and Anthropic. So that, I think that dynamic really
00:41:25.740
needs to be highlighted. The UN is talking about, and the AI for good kind of general theme, they're
00:41:33.640
talking about getting a hold of this and controlling it and deploying it at scale. But all of them are
00:41:40.640
basically at the mercy of the frontier labs. Well, if I may just add to that, this is the whole point
00:41:48.680
of the public-private partnership model that the international institutions that our governments
00:41:56.800
and these mammoth corporations have set up over the past few decades. They're all, in a way, advancing
00:42:04.220
hand-in-hand in order to deploy the centralized government, in my opinion, that they've been
00:42:10.720
working so hard to achieve with, you know, mass surveillance at the center of it all for each of
00:42:16.400
us individuals. Exactly, 100 percent mass. And I want to, so here's what I'd like to do. My producer,
00:42:22.660
I would like to, you guys go back into the conference by 1130, so in 45 minutes, get you back on because
00:42:28.360
we got to get Senator Josh Hawley up here. We're going to talk about AI and slipping this bill in, but I want
00:42:32.360
to continue this conversation, particularly about the frontier labs, because the frontier labs, as you
00:42:38.420
will define it, Joe, when you get back, remember, these people wanted to, when Deep Sea came on,
00:42:44.580
and they were totally caught by surprise on their methodology, which is energy intensive and requires
00:42:49.320
these massive data centers, and this is why you never hear anything about climate change anymore,
00:42:53.700
really, because the oligarchs need mass amounts of energy. They don't care where they get it from.
00:42:59.220
The four horsemen of the apocalypse wanted to take over the United States weapons labs. We call them
00:43:08.620
national labs now, but they're weapons labs. The big ones at Sandia and Livermore and these other
00:43:15.060
places, and we got to discuss this. Short commercial break, we're getting Nor and Joe back up at the
00:43:20.320
bottom of the next hour in Geneva. Got a lot more discussed on artificial intelligence, including Senator
00:43:25.440
Hawley's going to be here with how they're trying to do an end run on the American people and slip it
00:43:29.560
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00:43:37.900
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What were we talking about? I don't remember. But I can sleep a lot
00:45:56.980
anybody on the big list knows just how far the folks in charge will go to keep the status quo
00:46:04.440
so when the war bell rings a song that they'll sing is a song that we well know
00:46:09.320
i hope i hope so it's off to war i go well they said they're gonna fix it but now they're all
00:46:17.000
complicit they owe they owe they owe they owe they owe so it's off to war we go i'll send the
00:46:25.120
war off the war what else are we for they owe they owe they owe they owe
00:46:30.320
a lot of truth there this has got the deep state the intelligence services only one solution only
00:46:39.800
one solution pam bondi the uh attorney general of the united states has to go and petition the court
00:46:45.820
and unseal all the sealed evidence and then take that bundle with everything else they got and
00:46:51.820
release it it's end of drill and if they can't do that if they're too to get too much going on the
00:46:58.160
justice department or the fbi is overwhelmed then simple announce a special counsel to oversee this
00:47:04.320
and let them do it and and empower them and tell them to get on with it and the end of that song
00:47:09.740
he's got another song jesse wells i think this guy is um he's got a song about iran the war there very
00:47:16.680
powerful when you listen to it jesse wells i think he's on tiktok uh go to site googling we'll put the
00:47:22.140
link up uh grace will put the link up release everything only solution you can't have a middle
00:47:27.820
ground here and it's part of the fight in the war against the deep state
00:47:32.780
the the the whatever if they've got a um criminal grand jury they got to move faster we need to see we
00:47:43.700
need to see you're coming up on the midterms you know trump's got in this term a couple of years
00:47:49.320
what three three and a half years more in 28 this is one of the reasons you think anybody else can
00:47:55.580
take them on except trump and i understand people saying hey on this one he's not been 100 but there
00:48:01.780
are a lot of things going on the most dangerous thing we have right now is the deep state walking
00:48:07.360
us into a war in ukraine you're going to be in a shooting war around odessa by labor day if it keeps
00:48:13.080
going the path it's going and we got to wave off this path we are getting victories katherine o'neill
00:48:18.820
tell me about the flesh eating what were you you were all over this and actually one of the leaders
00:48:25.980
and getting this stopped talk to us about what what went on excuse me thanks so much steve for having
00:48:32.880
me on yeah so there was a huge victory yesterday where secretary brooke rollins announced that she was
00:48:39.220
suspending all livestock imports from mexico um because of the pressure that we mounted against
00:48:46.840
her and her decision making um so this is a huge victory for the grassroots uh american cattle ranchers
00:48:54.280
around the country so let me just walk you through the play by play so may 11th uh the secretary shut down
00:49:02.880
the border the the ports um in response to this threat against our country and then her team uh did
00:49:12.320
a lot of meetings with the mexican officials and then she was receiving a lot of pressure from the big
00:49:18.100
ag uh groups to reopen the border but the threat was still there and it hadn't been eradicated so
00:49:25.860
unfortunately she did open the border she caved to the pressure of big ag and she opened the border on
00:49:30.700
monday and we put up a huge huge fight against it um and i worked tirelessly behind the scenes i have
00:49:38.900
friends all over the administration that really care about what the american people want um so i just
00:49:44.880
want to thank them for listening to this threat and uh because of that she caved again and she shut down
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the border um it shows you brooke is oh you know look because there's all kind of tensions at all these
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departments right you've got you've got the big corporations all over them but when you bring
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these things to the attention like amnesty you get pretty quick response correct and you had
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because and this is one of the reasons you're such a great young entrepreneur you were you've been with
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us since the beginning it's like 15 and 16 so your your roots are very deep in this administration
00:50:19.660
but people when presented the information respond quickly absolutely i i think so and i think
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you know i think there were the people around the administration there were people in the white
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house there were people at homeland security people at dod that saw this even at the state
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department they saw this information that this was coming to our borders and they were like wow this is
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scary this is a real threat we need to we need to act now and so i think that there was a lot of
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internal pressure against her decision making and then we were allowed to we were able to amplify that
00:51:00.300
yeah i think this is important part i tell people if you got an issue come to us uh if you can't once
00:51:07.600
it gets amplified people respond quickly and i think this is a perfect uh issue if people want to catch
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up more on this where do they go to get the information so the the the craziest part about this whole
00:51:18.800
situation steve is that we were posting on our meriwether farms account we were posting about
00:51:23.820
this for the past two weeks vigilantly and we actually posted a picture um a medical and examination
00:51:31.120
of what um a human infestation looks like which is so disgusting and i really don't really appreciate
00:51:37.860
having to look at all these pictures but we posted a picture and it was flagged immediately by someone
00:51:43.860
on the outside and actually x shut our account down they locked us out of our account so then i had
00:51:50.520
to go over to my personal page and continue the dialogue and continue the pressure um so we really
00:51:57.100
hope that our our x account will be restored quickly uh because it just shows that we were we were right
00:52:03.500
uh to ring the alarm bells on this issue no elmo at work again a free speech absolutist elmo
00:52:11.040
maybe not so much where did they go from meriwether farms you're a hero let's go sell some beef
00:52:16.480
good meriwether farms and then my account is at kath gillihan um but we love your support and we're
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so thankful that you you've allowed us to amplify this issue too steve so let's go today because you
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get good beef one more time where they go to meriwether farms check it out give us a review
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all of it yes meriwetherfarms.com you'll see some deals right on the home page but we appreciate
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your support and we will continue to fight for the american rancher and farmer on this country
00:52:45.760
thank you ma'am appreciate you katherine o'neill young entrepreneur short commercial break when i say
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short i mean short we'll be back in a moment we got josh hawley they're gonna have a press conference
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down in kerrville we're gonna cover them all juggle them all go back to geneva and back on the
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