Steph and Rachel are joined by New York Gov. Andrew Yang to discuss the Texas governor s call for a special election in Texas, and how that could impact the upcoming midterms. They also talk about the latest in the California congressional map fight, and the impact that could have on the outcome of the 2020 election.
00:00:00.000The question is, why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? And the answer is because we can, because we have the power.
00:00:09.580You know, some of the details are like, you know, the plot of a political novel.
00:00:15.740And in fact, actually, my colleague Larry Wright wrote a terrific political novel just a couple of years ago about the Texas statehouse called Mr. Texas.
00:00:24.880I highly recommend it. But, you know, this isn't fiction. It's a world of raw power politics in which you see how the escalation cycle begins.
00:00:33.920Texas does one thing. Blue states respond. And all of a sudden, we're at a kind of a level of political war.
00:00:41.860And I'm very struck, as I'm sure you are, Steph, with the language of war being used by Texas Republicans, being used by New York's governor today.
00:00:50.780And this is a form of unraveling in and of itself. But it's raw power politics.
00:00:57.360It's all because the Republicans do not have a workable majority in the U.S. House of Representatives right now.
00:01:04.520They're afraid of an election, a midterm election coming.
00:01:08.300And if history is any guide, throwing them out of the majority in the House, that would be almost a crippling blow for Trump's second two years of his second and final term in office.
00:01:19.440And, you know, what he's saying is, I don't want a level playing field in 2026.
00:01:25.780I want to do what I can to tilt the playing field in Texas.
00:01:30.000And I just I think it's a new level of conflict that we haven't seen even in Trump's first term.
00:01:35.700You described this as a war. You said, bring it on.
00:01:39.740You've talked about doing something extraordinary, which is potentially paving the way for redistricting in New York,
00:01:48.020essentially to allow Democrats to take seats that aren't currently Democratic leaning seats the way that Republicans are doing in Texas.
00:01:55.080Tell me about whether you think it's going to get there and whether you think if the war is going to be fought in those terms, who ends up winning?
00:02:04.660Rachel, if we refuse to fight for our democracy, then we're doomed to lose it.
00:02:15.620And that's why I am sick and tired of fighting these battles with my hands tied behind my backs because we have independent redistricting commission.
00:02:23.260We love good government ideas. They're fabulous.
00:02:25.960But you know what? It puts us at a political disadvantage to all the Republican states who are able to gerrymander at will.
00:02:32.580So look at the tip of balance in the Congress now and what the Republicans are attempting to do under the direction of Donald Trump to literally hijack five Democratic seats in Texas represented, particularly my minority communities.
00:02:49.940And the effect of that on New York, why I'm involved with this, if they stack it so it's almost impossible for Hakeem Jeffries to be speaker at any time in the near future,
00:02:58.880certainly during the Trump administration, then I have to deal with the onslaught of attacks on my residents, the loss of health care for millions, children starving because they don't have the SNAP benefits and seeing the ice raids with unfettered power,
00:03:14.380walking into our courthouses and our buildings and our schools, wearing masks and blaring guns.
00:03:18.880There's no way to stop this if we don't find a way to have some checks and balance in Washington because we do not have it now.
00:03:26.200And if we don't stand up and fight, we'll not have it for the entirety of Donald Trump's tenure.
00:03:31.160And that is what is so frightening to me.
00:03:33.680You know what? I'm a New Yorker. I'm from Buffalo.
00:03:36.880Fighting is second nature to us. I'm not afraid of this.
00:03:39.420That's why I said bring it on, because Texas, bullies in Texas are not going to intimidate us now or ever.
00:03:47.320We're also following all the new developments this morning in the showdown in Texas.
00:03:51.280The statehouse is set to convene again today after the Republican governor ordered the arrest of dozens of Democratic lawmakers who have now fled that state.
00:03:59.560Those Democrats left on Sunday to block the GOP effort backed by President Trump to redraw the state's congressional map.
00:04:07.000Now, that could have a huge impact on the 2026 midterms, potentially eliminating five Democratic seats in the U.S. House.
00:04:15.640And new CNN this morning, CNN reporting this morning, California Democrats are in deep talks to retaliate by redrawing their own map to potentially do away with five Republican seats in that state.
00:04:27.780Sources briefed on those talks say the new maps are expected to be part of a ballot referendum in a November special election.
00:04:34.000Texas House is expected to come back about one o'clock central time, two o'clock eastern time.
00:04:39.300When they gaveled in yesterday, that's when it was official that the Democrats had broken the quorum here by fleeing the state.
00:04:48.580We are about halfway through this 30 day special legislative session, about two weeks left in it.
00:04:54.460So they would have to stay away to at least kill the redistricting bill during this session.
00:04:59.340But a reminder that the governor here in Texas can simply call another special session, put the redistricting bill back on that on that schedule and that all of this would start all over again.
00:05:10.340That's why there's so many questions swirling around whether or not and how long willing the Democrats are willing to stay away from the state to block this measure.
00:05:18.580But what is interesting, as you talk about there in the lead in, that, you know, one of the things that we heard from Democrats over and over in the days leading up to them leaving the state is that what they hoped would happen is that this would ratchet up pressure,
00:05:32.420intensify pressure on other states and spread the word about what is happening here in Texas and that other states in Democratic states would follow suit.
00:05:42.400And that was one of the things that several Democrats had told us leading up to yesterday's quorum break that they had hoped to see that that would be one of their goals in leaving leaving the state and trying to build momentum for awareness of the redistricting issue.
00:05:59.080But Republicans are fighting back there.
00:06:01.080The governor is obviously threatening arrest, threatening fines, as well as threatening possible criminal charges of bribery as well.
00:06:10.380Democrats dismiss that as hollow threats.
00:06:13.540But Republicans are also telling them, you know, they're simply cowards for not being here.
00:06:17.440At one o'clock central time, the House is expected to reconvene.
00:06:21.000Yesterday's session lasted only a few minutes, just enough time for the Speaker of the House to initiate the process of issuing the civil arrest warrants.
00:06:29.560And then shortly after that, the Texas governor ordering DPS to bring state troopers to bring the Democrats back.
00:06:36.320But of course, outside of the state lines, much of this is not enforceable.
00:06:45.020This department will say that the president won not just the last election, but he also won the one before that, the one he actually lost.
00:06:51.320And anybody who points out that Russia tried to help him win the one before that should be criminally charged for saying that, even though it's true.
00:06:57.900So, we are not heading towards something like this.
00:07:06.900It is the environment in which we are now living.
00:07:10.380And so, given that you now live in a country with an authoritarian leader, the question is, what can you do for your country?
00:07:19.120The question is no longer how to prepare for this risk or how to try to avert it, but rather how to fight it now that it is here and in effect.
00:07:43.240An authoritarian just seeks more and more and more power throughout not just politics, but through all of society, systematically trying to eliminate any effective means of opposing him.
00:07:55.220This is a one-way ratchet if we leave it up to him.
00:07:59.080But that at least does give us some clarity for Americans who do not want to leave it up to him.
00:11:06.980He's going to be coming in with commentary, and then Sam Faddis on his conspiracy we'll dig into in a minute as well.
00:11:15.720Yesterday, breaking news, if that's not enough, Pam Bondi directed the Justice Department to grand jury investigation of the Obama administration.
00:11:24.340Brennan, Clapper, Comey, et cetera, as well.
00:11:27.520So that's another huge piece of breaking news.
00:12:25.560But I don't like the term National Endowment for Democracy.
00:12:28.900If you look at this conspiracy that's been alleged by Tulsi and now going to grand jury, we got too close to being a democracy in this country, right?
00:12:39.960With the censorship regimes, all the big tech on board that project, conservative CEOs were scared to speak out, churches were closed, you all, the Fauci piece, what RFK's uncovering, all of that.
00:12:56.780We got way too close to being a pure democracy without guaranteed rights for minority factions.
00:13:04.800You know, James Madison, the Constitution of the U.S.
00:13:08.620So hold us all accountable on this kind of thing, right?
00:13:24.320They just want to grab power, seize power, and then the rights of minority factions are not protected.
00:13:30.420And so, Alex, why don't you just, if you want to comment just a minute on today's breaking news, I think we just got a couple minutes left since the cold open was so long.
00:14:04.060The service that all of us are doing, working the phones, pushing this forward, I think, couldn't change the fate of the country, especially looking at the mid-term days.
00:14:11.900So we'll talk more about that at the break right now.
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00:17:09.960You work with several representatives, major leaders in the country.
00:17:13.720You got your finger on the pulse of the base in particular.
00:17:17.320Why is the base so fired up about transparency and truth-telling and these Epstein files and then the prosecution of this conspiracy case?
00:17:28.980What is it at base that makes this such a huge issue right now at this moment in time?
00:17:34.640Well, I think, like Steve has always said, you know, it speaks to really who runs the country and our concern with the deep state and the powers that be.
00:17:42.560And I think, you know, I think the posse are amazing, smart people.
00:17:46.200We understand that the Democrats are using this to weaponize on the Epstein stuff, which is a total scam.
00:17:51.860We know President Trump has nothing to do with any of this stuff.
00:17:56.480But, you know, but they've got this lie.
00:17:58.740And so if people want to uncover the truth, which I think will greatly damage the Democrat Party based off everyone's basic understanding of who the real players are here involved in the sick stuff.
00:18:10.040So we welcome any of this transparency and accountability.
00:18:13.700I think that, you know, I don't think it's a major, major issue at the top of minds with voters.
00:18:18.100But the Democrats are certainly attempting to politicize this.
00:18:21.800And then our people, too, are wondering kind of what's going on.
00:18:23.800So I think that's important to kind of put that to bed, flip the script, force it on the Democrats and expose them.
00:18:29.520Obviously, you know, Russiagate is one of the biggest scandals, in my humble opinion, and crimes that we've seen for our republic and the depths that they've gone.
00:18:40.620So I think that is the whole ballgame because really everything – and that was when I was young.
00:18:44.920I mean, working with Elise and right out of college and working when she actually questioned Comey in 2017 and her – when she just got on the intelligence committee.
00:18:56.340Steve, we talk about it where he sort of didn't answer why they didn't alert the big aid on the counterintelligence investigation into Trump.
00:19:05.100Because Devin Nunes then jumped in to the investigation following that famous March 2017 Comey hearing in front of the intelligence committee, which many posse members that have been following this.
00:19:16.060And then, you know, everything is sort of connected to this, obviously, the red election.
00:19:19.780I mean, everything stems from, you know, this notion that – this lie that President Trump was a Russian agent, which is out of control.
00:19:27.840And so I think getting to that really is one of the most pressing issues because I think it will shatter the modern Democrat Party because when I talk to voters, my Democrat friends, they actually think that Trump was a Russian agent as of like a year ago.
00:19:41.540I mean, people are that sort of consumed by that madness that they've been fed by the mainstream media.
00:19:48.000And you look, the mainstream media is obviously exposing themselves in broad daylight, trying to cover up desperately in the last 48 hours all the major networks claiming, you know, there's no evidence, this, that, all this stuff.
00:20:00.500And it will be a huge reckoning for this country.
00:20:03.300I hope it leads to reforms on the intelligence committee in the community.
00:20:07.820And no one should have – be able to have this type of power to – you know, I mean, I think this was, in my opinion, you know, a vast CIA operation in domestic soil spying on President Trump.
00:20:20.080That's what I think, colluding with foreign powers.
00:21:57.860And so, Alex, give us where do we stand lately with all these folks up visiting Illinois?
00:22:03.480So, you know, it's interesting about Illinois.
00:22:05.640So it's the most, you know, gerrymandered state in the country.
00:22:08.760I think I saw Brian Harrison, who's been hammering on the show.
00:22:11.180I think went on CNN and held up the map that showed that, you know, they've got this long, skinny, all these crazy seats.
00:22:17.880So, you know, they are a scam at heart.
00:22:21.480And, you know, the reality is they're at risk because they've already kind of redistricted to a pretty – I mean, sorry, they've already kind of gerrymandered to a high extent.
00:22:28.780Of course, they believe they can pick off some seats in California, maybe a few in New York.
00:22:32.740But the reality is that we can pick off way more.
00:22:37.080And so they are not used to fighting fire with fire, right?
00:24:53.240I mean, I think the issues are on our side if Republicans continue to focus on affordability, the border, foreign policy wins and peace across the world, as well as trade and rebirth of manufacturing.
00:25:04.660I mean, really no one over the last six months for any president has been able to deliver the type of transformational change that not just President Trump, who deserves the credit, but Republicans in Congress, let's give them some credit.
00:25:15.300I mean, they've muscled some of this stuff through, and I think they need to not be shy and sort of lean in and sort of take the message home and sort of amplify this.
00:25:24.160Because I think the Democrats will come with a type of sophistication and viciousness that we've not seen before.
00:25:32.860People with – they will have – I mean, they'll have billions and billions and billions of dollars that they will spend in ways that we won't even be able to comprehend with dark money and nonprofits and super PACs and the Soro stuff.
00:25:43.160And, I mean, we already – I think some of the Republicans were standing outside the DCCC, and I think – it was in the news, but I think we watched their PowerPoint presentation.
00:25:51.840I don't know why they never set the blinds.
00:26:09.400People say, oh, they're doing this because they're losing on the issues.
00:26:11.500That's what the Democrats are like, no, I think we're great on the issues, but why wouldn't we do what they've done for years, net what we can, put us in the best position?
00:26:34.880We just have to kind of keep it going.
00:26:36.420I think a big difference between now and 2018 is we held a lot of seats in 2018 that Hillary Clinton had won, that we were defending in the House.
00:26:47.320I think we're only defending three seats that Kamala Harris won that are held by a Republican, and there may be 13 or so that are the opposite, right, where a Democrat holds that President Trump did better than the previous House candidate.
00:26:59.220And so if we could focus on those key seats, and I've been working with the posse, I think they're going to have a report out soon that goes through those seats, goes through the targets, see where some of those are, and, of course, things will shift with the lines.
00:27:10.600But it's going to be a knife fight of knife fights, and we've talked about this, and I've been coming on the show for years and cycles where it's like the house, the house, the house.
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00:33:10.080So now we've got a little cold open we're going to go to.
00:33:13.340And then we've got Sam Faddis coming up with a CIA conspiracy breaking news as well.
00:33:19.640Attorney General Pam Bondi has directed Justice Department prosecutors to launch a grand jury investigation into whether officials in the Obama administration committed federal crimes when they assessed Russia's actions during the 2016 election.
00:33:35.220That's according to a senior Trump administration official.
00:33:38.020The move comes after National Intelligence Director Tulsi Gabbard claimed last month top Obama administration officials carried out a, quote, treasonous conspiracy against Donald Trump.
00:33:50.920Gabbard said she is sending criminal referrals to the Justice Department.
00:33:55.600We don't know what the crimes are that are alleged here.
00:33:58.540We don't know who is being targeted and we don't know where this grand jury will sit.
00:34:02.960And all of that's, you know, very concerning.
00:34:04.700Normally in the, you know, prosecution process in this country, no one is indicted, no investigation is announced or anyone is indicted before a grand jury has heard evidence and a fellow citizen decides this other citizen should be charged with a crime.
00:34:20.180Here we have an approach where there's sort of a, you know, the Director of National Intelligence makes a sweeping allegation potentially that the former President of the United States was involved in a treasonous plot.
00:34:30.540And then you have the Attorney General announcing that she is launching a criminal investigation of this plot.
00:34:57.040That all happened during Donald Trump's first term.
00:35:00.020You look at the timeline here about what happened and when it happened.
00:35:04.840Barack Obama had nothing to do with this by anybody's accounts and especially by the Senate Republican Intelligence Committee run by Marco Rubio,
00:35:15.980who afterwards said that it was Donald Trump's 2016 campaign that created a, quote, grave intelligence, counterintelligence threat to the United States of America.
00:35:27.940That was Marco Rubio, the current Secretary of State.
00:35:31.360That was every Republican on the Senate Intel Committee after pouring through all of the documents.
00:37:08.880And so it's time to take action on our part, too.
00:37:11.840And so I asked Sam to come on and maybe highlight, you know, what are two or three of the major receipts?
00:37:17.380They say there's nothing there in the war room.
00:37:21.080We need to have just two or three receipts that we can just go to just our go to talking points for our neighbors, our friends, the church group.
00:37:29.680And so, Sam, how do you react to that clip?
00:37:33.700And what would you encourage the war room to do to take action on this?
00:37:38.680Because this is the biggest conspiracy in American history that I know of.
00:37:42.620I can't think of anything greater coming from potentially two presidents of the United States on down through all the intelligence agencies.
00:37:59.560I'm smiling and laughing on my end, not because there's anything funny about this, but because, you know, as a CIA guy, I got used to being lied to.
00:38:07.020But what always drives me crazy is when people tell me stupid lies and listening to Scarborough, I'm like, for the love of God, buddy, did they surgically remove your integrity?
00:39:41.740In the normal course of business, the Central Intelligence Agency and the FBI would have never looked at this, would have never given it credence.
00:39:50.780The sourcing was non-existent and the obvious motivation, the political motivation, just reeked of this.
00:40:00.940So nobody unintentionally through negligence, through bad practice, ran with this.
00:41:09.940And that will, I think, be to the benefit of people like Tulsi Gabbard and now the DOJ, because what you'll find is that there are, I don't know, a couple of dozen folks anyway who were on the inside of this.
00:41:24.780And some of them will now realize what they were on the inside of, and it'll be time to jump ship, right, which is what you need to prosecute this.
00:41:33.960The second thing I would say, you know, in terms of receipts, the laptop, this entire supposed controversy, is the thing real or not?
00:41:43.840Again, there was never any controversy.
00:41:46.360I looked at the thing very, very early on at Steve's request.
00:41:50.780It was apparent to me within five minutes the thing was legit.
00:41:54.240And there are a million reasons for that, but it just would have been impossible to fabricate and have it stand up to scrutiny.
00:42:00.840But we also know the Bureau contacted Apple almost immediately and confirmed the laptop was Hunter's.
00:42:10.040And they also confirmed that it was being backed up to the cloud as is normal, and therefore they confirmed that the contents were legit.
00:42:18.820So they weren't confirming just that the hardware, as originally sold, was sold to Hunter.
00:42:26.340They confirmed that, yeah, that's everything on there is what he has been backing up, obviously, automatically for however long he'd had the laptop.
00:42:37.520So, again, there was never the entire idea that there was a question about this, that the Russians had created it, was, again, a fabrication, whole cloth.
00:42:50.500And all the people at the top conducting the investigation or looking at this knew that.
00:43:54.280It just cannot keep up with that demand.
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00:44:55.820Dave Brat back in the war room with the great Sam Fattis, CIA operative analyst.
00:45:01.480Very lucky to have people of this caliber with us in the war room, along with the Oxford Don, Stephen K. Bannon, who's a master across all these areas as well.
00:45:54.560And so, Sam, you led us through the first two big receipts that we have, the Steele dossier and then secondly, laptop, the Biden laptop that goes along with the money to the big man.
00:46:07.120And what's the third receipt the folks in the war room can share with friends and neighbors?
00:46:12.120So, look, I looked at the laptop very early on, given unfettered access to it.
00:46:18.160I had a copy of the hard drive for a very long time and spent way more time than I would have liked going through it.
00:46:26.300What do you learn when you look at the laptop?
00:46:28.200Hunter can't find his trousers on a good day.
00:46:30.860Hunter eats Viagra like peanuts and he snorts Coke by the kilo.
00:46:34.940But more to the point, what do you see?
00:46:37.980You see that the Biden crime family was taking millions and millions of dollars from pretty much every thug on the planet.
00:46:45.280But beyond everything, above everything, they took more money from the Chinese than anybody else.
00:46:53.320And not just from the Chinese, from individuals who were Chinese intelligence officers, Chinese spies.
00:47:19.360When you take tens of millions of dollars from Chinese intelligence officers, obviously something is coming back the other way.
00:47:27.860So back to the issue of the laptop and covering it up.
00:47:32.780American counterintelligence and intelligence officers see this laptop.
00:47:38.040They know it is real almost immediately and they can see all that same data, which means we had a guy at that point running for president of the United States compromised by, owned by Chinese intelligence potentially.
00:47:52.720And their decision was not to turn on the red lights, sound the siren and, you know, and immediately dive into this.
00:48:02.180It was to cover the whole thing up and tell the American people nothing to see here.
00:48:09.300Greatest counterintelligence threat potentially in our history.
00:48:12.700And they just walked on and buried the thing.
00:49:27.160Sam, how do people follow you and, you know, get the points you just made, stuff, receipts we can share with each other, with the press, et cetera?
00:49:37.600Go to AND Magazine and Substack, anddmagazine.substack.com.
00:49:43.860And look, you can search there and you can see that we've been writing about all of these issues for several years now.
00:49:51.040So, and everything we write has references, embedded links.
00:49:56.000I'm not asking you to take it on faith.
00:50:37.280We are about halfway through this 30-day special legislative session, about two weeks left in it, so they would have to stay away to at least kill the redistricting bill during this session.
00:50:48.000But a reminder that the governor here in Texas can simply call another special session, put the redistricting bill back on that schedule, and that all of this would start all over again.
00:50:58.960That's why there's so many questions swirling around whether or not and how long the Democrats are willing to stay away from the state to block this measure.
00:51:07.240But what is interesting, as you talk about there in the lead-in, that one of the things that we heard from Democrats over and over in the days leading up to them leaving the state is that what they hoped would happen is that this would ratchet up pressure,
00:51:21.080intensify pressure on other states, and spread the word about what is happening here in Texas, and that other states, Democratic states, would follow suit.
00:51:31.020And that was one of the things that several Democrats had told us leading up to yesterday's quorum break, that they had hoped to see that that would be one of their goals in leaving the state and trying to—
00:51:48.740Rich, we got a minute on this side of the break, and so give us your initial reaction.
00:51:52.800What's the latest news breaking, and what are you guys doing down there in Texas?
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