On this episode of The War Room, Steve and Alex are joined by retired Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn to discuss his new book, Why Should This? and why it s so important that we read it.
00:04:55.000I don't expect everything I want here.
00:04:57.000The only way we're going to win this long term is if the grassroots is fully engaged.
00:05:02.000If they stay on a wartime footing 24-7.
00:05:04.000If you don't wait just for national elections once every four years or once every two years to go vote.
00:05:09.000No, this responsibility to save this republic is a 24-7, 365 battle.
00:05:14.000And if we make the mistake of playing it cool right now, acting like we're in victory mode because Trump won, that's where we're going to lose ground.
00:05:22.000Because they're working now to defeat us.
00:06:05.000If you don't like it, books a million.
00:06:07.000But it should be on shelves as of yesterday.
00:06:11.000I think what we're going to do, folks, is I'll announce sometime next week in the 6 o'clock hour we'll have a little more space to breathe.
00:06:18.000I want to get Alex on and maybe we'll have a tutorial on the books.
00:06:21.000I want your copy so you can follow along at home and we'll walk through it.
00:06:24.000So, Alex, I'll bug you about that after the show today.
00:10:29.000What Russia wants is Russia wants, they basically want no, no NATO involvement by Ukraine.
00:10:36.000They want no significant, what they call significant offensive weapons position in Ukraine, meaning probably some kind of tactical nuclear weapons.
00:10:45.000And they basically want, they want to, you know, the understanding that the Crimea, and I do believe that there is a element that has not been raised yet about Odessa.
00:10:55.000So when we talk about what it is that we need to talk about, number one, and this is why I came out with this piece this weekend about these rules for diplomacy.
00:11:06.000And like I say in the, in the article, I'm not a diplomat, but people need to read these rules because this is about trust, transparency between great, great nations, right?
00:11:16.000And the leaders that are running those nations and these great nations are principally the nations that have nuclear weapons.
00:11:22.000And, and, you know, the, the big principal nations are, of course, the United States of America, Russia, and China.
00:11:29.000One of the other things, Steve, that we must consider, and it has to be considered, and I, and I might have said, said this to you when we were talking earlier, but we have got to pull Russia out of the umbrella of China.
00:11:43.000And, and when we talk about economics, we talk about banking, we talk about the financial, global financial system, because you mentioned that you're going to have a gentleman on, I guess, tomorrow.
00:11:53.000When we talk about the global financial system, the BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and, and South Africa, that, that is coming into its fore.
00:12:02.000And China is the big dog in that room. So we've got to understand when we fight for peace, and I'm talking about, we're going to have to have some type of compromising elements within the conditions that are put on the table to stop the war in Eastern Europe.
00:12:17.000Eastern Europe, because while that's all going on, we have now what's going on in Israel, inside of Israel, essentially, there's a, there is a tough, tough struggle internal to Israel, because of the situation in Gaza.
00:12:30.000I, I, you know, we can have a show just on that, and what the Arab nations must do, because, you know, the Arab nations, I think, are still continuing to get a pass.
00:12:40.240And this is where Trump has the gravitas, and he's got the mandate from the American people to put demands on many of these things.
00:12:48.340I'm not a fan of, of Zelensky. I think we're back in the wrong course in this regard. I don't think Zelensky, and in fact, and in fact, I'll mention a name that, that very few people even know of.
00:12:59.080His chief of staff is named Yermov. This is, these are bad guys, and, and I, and I'll say it, so people need to understand it.
00:13:06.500We have got to fight for peace. People have got to understand that there's got to be a trust and a transparency between great nations, and those great nations right now have nuclear weapons,
00:13:16.380and we are on the verge, when you have the President of the United States talking about repositioning one of the legs, the serious legs of our nuclear triad publicly,
00:13:26.820that's not a good thing for the President of the United States to be talking about, because we've already heard nuclear weapons and the deployment,
00:13:33.440and actually a triad of Russia, which was partially destroyed by Ukraine, you know, not only a couple of months ago.
00:13:40.880So all these things are converging, Steve, and we've got to be very careful that we're not moving towards a nuclear handoff.
00:13:47.300General, hang on for one second. I want to hold you through the break.
00:13:51.760General Mike Flynn joins us, one of the targets of the deep state, and someone suffered at the hands of him.
00:13:57.480The reason is the thinking you just saw right there.
00:14:00.040The first national security advisor for President Trump.
00:14:04.020We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:14:05.460General Flynn just brought the BRICS nations now more than ever.
00:14:09.540This is one of the fights we've got in Brazil right now.
00:14:11.760It's not simply about Bolsonaro. It's a lot about Bolsonaro, but it's also about Lula and the de-dollarization movement.
00:17:00.420By the way, Getter, I'm putting up stuff all night long.
00:17:02.680If you want to see where the war room is, make sure you go there first.
00:17:05.780So, General Flynn, here's the – let me ask you because this thing is very well thought through.
00:17:10.220And I agree with you that if we don't, I think, take your rules and kind of follow them, we're going to be in an even deeper – deeper into the kinetic part of the Third World War.
00:17:20.920But here's a – and I think when the Russians say, hey, we don't want offensive – I don't think they're talking about tactical nukes.
00:17:28.140I think they're talking about the types of missiles we're saying that could hit Moscow and even drones.
00:17:36.940I'd be quite surprised if you could cut a peace deal now that didn't have the Russian army somehow marching towards Odessa.
00:17:44.700But how do we have trust among the great powers?
00:17:47.380How do we have trust among the great powers right now when, as you know, our CIA working in Wiesbaden with, you know, guys that used to report to you at DIA are running.
00:17:59.280And they do a strike that Curtis LeMay couldn't even think about, couldn't even dream about to take out, you know, half of the Russian – a third of the Russian triad of the strategic bombers with drone strikes a couple of months ago.
00:18:12.340You have, you know, Laura Loomer every day is banging on Qatar as the funder of the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:18:18.940And you've got Netanyahu's cabinets in – or some of the guys running that's cabinets.
00:18:23.380Some of his aides are in business with the Qatar, and they're trying to have an investigation.
00:18:26.740And this whole thing in Gaza gets very, very, you know, not transparent because we haven't even had an answer on October 6th of how this even happened, how it got past Shin Ben and Mossad and the CIA and Saudi intelligence and all that.
00:18:41.320And you've got one situation after the other.
00:18:45.220The Israelis do the strike on that day with the urgency, which the worm doesn't think there was any urgency, and they take out the negotiators.
00:18:53.100Witkoff's going to meet in Oman, in Muscat, Oman on Sunday, and they kill all the negotiators on Friday.
00:19:00.080The actions of the combatants are so counter to any type of trust.
00:19:07.580How do you build it back when you're sitting there going, the way for me to get an advantage right now and advantage either territory or killing more of their people and breaking their will is actually to not be transparent, but to actually be sneakier but more lethal in how I'm going to be cunning and sneaky, sir.
00:19:27.280You know, first, we have in the White House President Donald J. Trump, one of the smartest guys when it comes to negotiations.
00:19:34.440He's going to have to pull his team in.
00:19:37.080And the things that you just highlighted, Steve, the things that I talked about before, I mean, there is so much information out there that Donald J. Trump needs to have that information.
00:19:47.280So he can't have an excuse like, I didn't know that the CIA was doing this.
00:19:51.600I didn't know that the Department of Defense was doing that.
00:19:54.740So there can be – and his negotiators, the various negotiators.
00:19:58.000I mentioned in my article about a general officer over in Europe that's – you know, he's so far out in front of his headlights, he ought to be relieved.
00:20:06.100So the president needs to pull his team together like now and say, OK, I want to know everything that is going on right now, not only in Europe, but also in the Middle East that I should be aware of.
00:20:17.540And because now what I'm going to do next is I'm going to start to call up – I'm going to get a hold of Putin.
00:20:23.660I'm going to say to maybe Xi, I'm going to talk to some of the leaders and say, hey, guys, look, we are moving towards a standoff that we're not going to be able to get out of, right?
00:20:34.580You may not want war, but war wants you.
00:20:37.060And once it grabs hold of you, it is going to move – it is going to move the world in a different direction, in a very dangerous direction.
00:20:42.800So Trump is going to have to put – he's going to have to insert himself in these.
00:20:47.560These negotiations that are going on by these special envoys, fine, those are tactics.
00:20:53.740Trump needs to – he needs to set the conditions right now at the leader level, and I mean at the president to president, president to prime minister level,
00:21:02.580and say this is what we are going to expect.
00:21:05.980And then he needs to go back to his team and say this is what I just said.
00:21:09.740This is my commitment, and this is what America is going to do.
00:21:13.120Because one of the things that I do bring out is the lies that we have been telling so many – I mean we don't have two legs to stand on, Steve, right now because of our own past history.
00:21:26.280Trump is not one of the – and you know this as well as I do.
00:21:30.220Trump is not one of the standard political guys who continues to bulls**t through a political lifestyle.
00:21:38.020Trump is one of these guys that comes in and says this is what we need to do, negotiate it, and he is probably going to have to be the negotiator.
00:21:45.980There's a lot of other economic stuff that can be dealt with.
00:21:48.760Because one of the other plays – and we've seen this over the last 72 hours with India.
00:21:53.080I'm very concerned about the stuff about India and the back and forth to India because India is one of the principal military-to-military relationships with Russia.
00:22:06.060I mean a lot of the Indian capabilities come from Russia.
00:22:32.300We've been talking about this for a month.
00:22:33.720And Alex Marlow just highlighted in his great book.
00:22:36.860We have a problem right here at home that must be dealt with.
00:22:40.240We have an accountability issue that must be dealt with.
00:22:42.780And I keep telling those foreign leaders that I talk to and the ambassadors that I see in Washington, D.C. periodically, I keep telling them, do not mistake what we're going through internally here in the United States of America as a weakness.
00:22:56.880This is a strength of our constitutional order.
00:22:59.260And as ugly as we are operating inside of our family, we're going to fix these problems.
00:23:03.000We're going to hold people accountable.
00:24:18.100And I'm going to take these in order and then combine them and then toss it to you.
00:24:21.280You have in the three entities on kind of our side at the United States and Marlow just said it best.
00:24:29.060We're on war footing and we're on war footing on this on the criminal investigation of the seditious, the seditious conspiracy, which Trump says perfectly is the greatest political crime in the history of the nation.
00:24:40.080And that we have to understand something.
00:24:42.520We don't want to be united to be, but it is going to tear us apart to a degree.
00:24:45.820But we've got to see it to its end or we're not going to have control of the deep state.
00:24:49.300In addition, what's going to happen in the House.
00:24:51.000So in the United States itself, as we go forward, we are going to be in this internal struggle.
00:24:57.420In Ukraine, and I was disappointed that President Trump's not being briefed as well because when they asked him about the 60-year-olds, Zelensky's whole apparatus is falling apart.
00:26:06.140I can't occupy a thing with millions of people.
00:26:08.580It'll be worth 10 times worse than Iraq.
00:26:10.420So when you have the three principal combatants on our side that internally had these massive struggles, right, how do you unite or how do you clean up that before we force the Chinese Communist Party, the Mullahs in Tehran, and the KGB in Moscow to be transparent, sir?
00:26:28.800Yeah, it's like we're the hen house and the wolves have surrounded it and they are just lathering at their chops there.
00:26:37.400Number one, the war fighting footing that the United States of America is on.
00:26:42.580Donald Trump must crush the deep state and he's got to start at the top and he's got to crush it.
00:26:48.020He's got to give full authorities to the Department of Justice, the intelligence community, and Tulsi Gaffer's been doing an amazing job.
00:27:09.500The fact that Ukraine is having to go to the levels that they're having to go to, the money laundering that has come out of Ukraine.
00:27:15.820I mean, Steve, I'm part of a whistleblower case that has a 48 billion, it's a file, filed in federal court, a $48 billion, billion with a B, $48 billion money laundering case that we have filed on behalf of whistleblowers that is money that was taken from U.S. taxpayers
00:27:33.080and then laundered through Ukraine and brought back, and we know where some of those people, some of the people that took it.
00:27:38.800So the war in Ukraine, the Ukrainians' government, the leadership, lost that war.
00:28:00.060He once again reiterates the president needs to crush the deep state.
00:28:04.820If we don't do that, everything we fought for is going to be reversed, and they're going to come back after President Trump 100% and Mike Flynn and others, including your host.
00:28:42.040It just cannot keep up with that demand.
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00:36:09.720And, of course, on X, which – and I know you also push Getter.
00:36:14.600I'm on Getter as well, at Jen Flynn, and I post everything.
00:36:19.380And I want people to understand what we're up against.
00:36:22.260And the worst problem that we have is the subversion and espionage that is directed against the United States of America ongoing right now.
00:36:34.220But you're saying espionage directed not simply by our external threat enemies but principally by the deep state that has taken root here in the United States.
00:36:47.660Our number one thing is we don't clean that up.
00:36:50.440We don't have a chance of cleaning anything else up, correct?
00:36:52.740Yeah, when I was a second lieutenant, I used to go give these what's called SAIDA briefings, subversion and espionage directed against America to these – to my bosses, right?
00:37:01.700And they used to laugh at me, but I had to do it, you know, on an annual basis because it was the standard, SAIDA briefings, right?
00:37:07.060Now what we've had – here I am, you know, whatever, 45 years later, and it's real.
00:37:13.460And we've known about it for a long time.
00:37:15.720Obama is really at the heart of this thing, and this is very real.
00:37:19.160I am not kidding, and it's not just, you know, some group of hoodlums that met in the Oval Office on the – now known the 8th of December and the 5th of January of 2016 and 2017, respectively.
00:37:30.100There are thousands of people in our government that are part of this effort, and Trump has his hands full, and he's got the right team in there, but they've got to move at a much faster pace.
00:37:40.940I don't want to hear – honestly, Steve, I'll say one last thing if you keep me for 30 more seconds.
00:37:44.600I don't want to hear people telling me or saying how hard it is and how, you know, how hard they're working.
00:37:50.080You know, I used to – people would come in and see me as a – when I was a commander, they'd go, well, sir, we're working hard on it.
00:37:56.820Did you, you know, did you work this morning on it?
00:37:58.840I mean, that's what I want to see when people – because we, the people of this country, are expecting our appointed and elected officials to work their asses off.
00:38:07.460If it's too tough for you, get out of the way.
00:38:45.460Okay, let's go ahead and just play this clip and then I'm going to jump in here because we're going to have some guests maybe this afternoon, maybe tomorrow.
00:38:52.860You know, Natalie's going to take the 5 o'clock show today.
00:38:54.840And she's going to, I think, maybe have a guest or two on this.
00:38:58.560I'm going to have a couple of people, maybe even Dr. Stephen Hatfield used to be on our show at the very beginning of Pandemic, to talk about the ban on MRNA.
00:39:07.720And let's play the clip from Cole and then I'll explain.
00:39:10.520The most promising technology out there.
00:39:14.780When you read this release, you go through and says, you know, the decisions, including cancellation, descoping of various contracts and solicitations relate to MRNA vaccine development activities.
00:39:29.640And this is by the Biomedical Advanced Research Development, BARDA.
00:39:39.620But and then you go through a whole bunch of of actions, shows the vaccines felt to protect effectively, upper respiratory infections, COVID, baboom.
00:39:49.420All the actions are taking termination of this, cancellation of this, descoping.
00:40:13.080I'm sure that I'm sure the the companies out there that are publicly traded are going to come in with massive lawsuits or fights or you guys are a bunch of vaccine wingnuts.
00:40:22.460So my point is, this is an opening salvo.
00:40:25.180And I realize that these actions are being taken, but they're just not going to roll over.
00:40:29.100I mean, this gene therapy, there's so many people that banked on this and have proposed.
00:40:42.080And so the media, they did a compilation of, like I said yesterday, we need the people at HHS, the scientists, people with doctors running, not Bobby.
00:41:39.680This is something that's got to be explained to the American people because a lot of the American people don't understand the details here.
00:41:43.920And like I said, you have all of the pharmaceutical industry is a great group of folks now that are running a campaign about having big pharma not be able to advertise on TV.
00:41:56.040If if they did that, if we effectuated that, if we implemented that, MSNBC would be a test pattern.
00:42:02.340These people, particularly when they're getting spun off from NBC and they got to kind of make it on their own, I guess spun off from Comcast now more than ever.
00:42:09.620My point, we have the evidence, but you just can't put out assertions in something like this is going to be so controversial.
00:42:17.700And at least this morning, I haven't checked since the show started.
00:42:20.440But this morning, the Moderna stock overnight wasn't down.
00:42:24.880I think when I started the show, the reason is the market thinks this is going to get reversed.
00:42:30.060Otherwise, Moderna, Moderna could be a zero.
00:42:32.420So my point, we need to get the best people at HHS that pulled all this information together from all these different studies, compiled it, went through it, did their analysis and then advised the cabinet secretary, Bobby Kennedy Jr., on making really a historic and I think much needed decision.
00:42:53.080And we're going to have tomorrow Hatfield and I think some others are involved in it, but I'd like to have the senior guy and do it and then he's got to be everywhere.
00:43:02.440He ought to be on CNN, MSNBC, New York Times.
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