Episode 4690： Smoking Gun Behind Obama's CIA Claims; Experimental Genetic Products
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On today's show, Stephen K. Bannon and John Solomon talk about a potential smoking gun that could point the finger at the Deep State. They talk about how the deep state is trying to delegitimize President Trump and take control of the country.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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politics is just warfare by other methods and other means.
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Just like in sports, just like you get the National Football League
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if you get the momentum, you go through the playoffs,
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On the convergence of forces that DeGrasse talked about
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The Voting Rights Act coming from the Supreme Court,
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And this is why Alex Marlow was on yesterday about the lawfare.
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it's in the courts fighting President Trump on his Article II powers.
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and that all comes from Watergate and from post-Watergate.
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And Michael Patrick Leahy and others are going to have a lot to say about that
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So I'll have Michael Patrick Leahy and some things that he's working on
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The radical judiciary, and that's why Marlow's book is so important.
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Of all of these, and this is why this Axios piece was so important yesterday,
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because Axios, look, Axios is the Washington consensus.
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That's why we bring it up a lot, our morning job.
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You've got to understand in narrative warfare and information warfare
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and then how the radical Democrats are trying to drive that Washington consensus
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The most important of all is sticking the landing on this seditious conspiracy.
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And they had the beautiful story with the MAGA and the handcuffs and bold red.
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And I think it was a couple of guys who were actually did an incredible job
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John Solomon joins me today because he's got a really incredible piece up about a potential smoking gun.
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John, of everything we're working on, and there's so much of this that is so important.
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The one thing that we must win and we have to deliver on is this deep state conspiracy,
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because if we don't solve this now, we don't really have a country.
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We can win redistricting, we can get tariffs, all the stuff Trump's doing.
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Seal the border, mass deportations, redoing the world's economic system,
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you know, supply-side productivity tax cuts, all of these great things.
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Putin coming to the White House with Russia, the head of Intel being told he's going to be,
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the board's got to let him go because it's too close to the Chinese Communist Party.
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I can list a hundred things we're doing, and if we don't do this one big thing,
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So, John Solomon, talk to me about the framing of that.
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In addition, your amazing article now about, guess what?
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He's either the first clairvoyant president in American history
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before the CIA had redone the Intelligence Committee assessment,
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what its outcome was or, more likely, he knew the fix was in.
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and I guess he forgot that they hadn't done the work yet.
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So he tells NPR, expects the CIA to conclude, reverse itself,
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and conclude that Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump.
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The problem is the CIA hasn't really even started the work.
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And he's so embarrassed he comes back later and tries to walk it back a little bit.
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It is the sort of proof that John Durham should have found in his investigation
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But for this point going forward, when you try to prove,
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this is a really, really significant piece of evidence.
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And I'll walk people back to Watergate because you mentioned it for a second.
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The moment Republicans bolted on Richard Nixon,
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is when they got the tapes and they realized that Nixon had asked the CIA
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to try to stop the FBI from investigating the burglary.
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But the mere fact that a president would consider asking the CIA to do something political
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was enough for an entire party to bolt on their president.
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Here, Obama asked the CIA to come up with a concocted thing,
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and he seems to know the outcome before the work's even done.
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You've got the FBI pressuring the CIA to put a bogus Christopher Steele document in the intelligence assessment.
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And, of course, you've got the FBI helping Hillary Clinton carry out the whole dirty trick.
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It is epically, just on the standards of Watergate,
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it is epically worse than anything we saw in Watergate.
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And the Democratic Party just yawns at it in our face every day.
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we're going to go from the greatest constitutional republic the world is known to a perennial banana republic.
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because, you know, this whole thing that Obama's immunity because of the court decision,
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and look, that's all something for them to figure out.
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But it doesn't mean he can't be in this initial roundup to start looking at it.
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Why is 19 December, what had happened before then?
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Why is 19 December, because you've got the original meeting,
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and then you've got the meeting with Trump in early January, right?
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Why is that 19 December his kind of either Freudian slip or bragging about it to NPR?
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Well, the documents that Tulsi Gabbard declassified recently,
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along with the House Intelligence Community Annex that we got recently,
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thanks to Rick Crawford and Devin Nunes, who wrote the original report,
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showed that the Intelligence Community assessment was just starting.
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What it means is that Barack Obama had decided that the career people are going to come to my conclusion.
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I've decided that I want to say that Vladimir Putin interfered in the election to help Donald Trump.
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And that is contrary to all the evidence that the career CIA people had.
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They had already briefed Congress on November 29th,
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and they had briefed the president back in September of 2016 that Russia wasn't trying to pick a candidate.
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It was just trying to cause mischief like it does in every election.
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In fact, the best evidence, the smoking gun evidence that the CIA career people were right,
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was that Vladimir Putin stopped his operations, his influence operations, in October 2016.
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If you were trying to help Donald Trump win, the month that you would lay down on Hillary Clinton
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and blow your submarines up with her would be in October.
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Instead, Putin pulls out and lets the American people without much more influence go on.
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The CIA had it right, and Barack Obama decides to corrupt that process
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because he and Hillary Clinton want to be victims.
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We didn't lose because my policies weren't appreciated.
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We didn't lose because Hillary Clinton didn't do enough work in Wisconsin and Michigan.
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We lost because big bad Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump beat us by cheating.
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That's the victimology that liberals love every time they lose.
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But in this case, rather than just create a political narrative,
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they're using the apparatus of the CIA and the intelligence community
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to create an official government product that is bogus.
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You've had a couple of three pretty good called shots on this show about things that happened.
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What are you looking for as this, as, you know, we don't really know where this grand jury is.
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We keep hearing about it. We don't really know who the prosecutor is.
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What should the Warren Posse be looking for in developments in this case?
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I'd be staking out the Justice Department next week to see which U.S. attorney comes to meet with Pam Bondi,
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because that most likely would be the U.S. attorney that inherits the grand conspiracy case.
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If I had to guess, I think it's going to be Miami.
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And then the grand jury will be put in Fort Pierce, Florida,
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which is the same district where Jack Smith did his business and the raid on Mar-a-Lago
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and all of the things that we now know about that.
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That makes a lot of sense because that's the back end of the conspiracy.
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Most grand juries are impaneled where the most current crimes or alleged crimes are believed to have occurred.
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So I'd be watching for a visit by the Miami U.S. attorney or some team from Miami or Fort Pierce coming up
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If that happens, then the grand conspiracy investigation that has already been written as a predicate by the FBI is underway.
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If they start doing business in Washington, it means they're fragmenting this and maybe not looking at it as a conspiracy.
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My gut tells me, based on what I'm hearing behind the scenes from reporting,
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that the grand conspiracy is the approach that they're taking.
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You mentioned Crawford and you mentioned the House and the Senate.
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Is there going to be something happening in the House and the Senate along these lines,
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I think, and this is just based on some early reporting I'm doing.
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But I think we're moving to a moment much like the Church Commission was back in the 70s when we learned what the CIA and J. Edgar Hoover did to us.
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So maybe there is a creation of a truth commission in Congress that works simultaneously alongside of the Justice Department.
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And if I'm the Justice Department, I know what I'm going to do.
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I'm going to put a prosecutor in the truth commission.
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And the second somebody walks in and lies in that commission, I'm going to have the agents with me.
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I'm going to arrest that person on the scene saying, you clearly lied.
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That would be the most powerful one-two punch that we could do to push back against us.
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Some people are talking about that's not my idea.
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If that gets there, that is a powerful one-two.
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Because we need to educate the American people from the Pravda baloney they've gotten from CNN,
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The New York Times, and The Washington Post the last eight months.
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You do that simultaneously to the criminal investigation, I think you have the most effective potential deterrence
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so that people are tempted to do what they just did the last nine years.
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You're always ahead of the curve when people talk about whistleblowers
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and people coming forward that have information that felt that they couldn't do it before,
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both on Capitol Hill and at the DOJ, FBI level.
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What are you hearing about whistleblowers or people that really know
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and have for years just felt like nobody would have their back that they can come forward?
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They're coming out of the woodwork, particularly in the intelligence community.
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They feel comfortable because she treated the information seriously and she did a fully transparent release.
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So that first intelligence officer who's a whistleblower came forward.
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He was the deputy national intelligence officer for cybersecurity.
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And he's like, hey, there should have never been the use of the Steele dossier.
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When I found out the Steele dossier was used for the intelligence community, that violated all the rules.
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His coming forward has prompted many others to come forward.
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I think we'll see another release of whistleblower information sometime in August.
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And it will probably make our heads spin again.
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That just there's so many people in the career establishment that knew what was going on was wrong,
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And when we hear their stories, you're going to see that this does look like Watergate in so many ways.
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John, where can people go to get all your content, the writing and the the podcast in the show?
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Jay Solomon reports on all social media platforms.
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I'm lucky enough to follow you every night at six o'clock here on Real America's Voice.
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announced that his department will be cutting nearly $500 million in funding for MRNA vaccine development.
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Many scientists and infectious disease experts swiftly denounced the move as a broadside attack on the area of research, particularly those who have seen this as promising after rapidly developing COVID vaccines.
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Basically, the way we, for your audience, the way we've been designing vaccines prior to MRNA had serious cons.
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It wasn't nimble in the setting of a crisis like a pandemic.
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That approach actually caused more side effects than what we're seeing with MRNA vaccines, where the side effect profile is actually quite minimal, regardless of the misinformation environment.
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We can look at the data as, you know, we did this for five years during the pandemic, but none of this makes sense and actually doesn't help his legacy whatsoever.
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But, I mean, to take one of the more promising advancements and just to say, you know what, we're not going to do that anymore, is an unbelievable dereliction of duty.
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And, yes, I'm deeply mad at RFK Jr. for doing this, but Donald Trump put this man in this position.
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Knowing exactly who he was and what he was going to do.
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Donald Trump, who boasted repeatedly about the success of Operation Warp Speed.
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And should and had every right to boast about it.
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Decided as a matter of political convenience that he was going to incorporate the RFK Jr. coalition into his own.
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And the price he paid was by making RFK Jr. HHS secretary.
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And the repercussions for that we will live with not just today, not just next year, but for 10 years to come.
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And I just feel, years and years to come, I should say.
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And I just, it's, it is a, it's unbelievable to think what we could prevent, the diseases we could prevent, the suffering and deaths we could prevent, that will not be prevented because of this decision.
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Oh, there's bad news of, uh, fans of living because, uh, health secretary RFK Jr. just pulled $500 million in funding for vaccine development.
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Now we have 10 more months of this show and I want to give a measured nonpartisan response here.
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specifically Bobby Jr. is nixing 22 projects that use mRNA technology but that's the latest
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vaccine technology that's like saying kids I'm turning off the GPS we're going to make
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our way to six flags by using the stars hand daddy the sextant
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yes crank down crank down windows in daddy's car
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Colbert has no talent I mean I could take anybody here I could go outside on the beautiful streets
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and pick up a couple of people they do just as well or better they get higher ratings than he
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did he's got no talent yesterday yesterday RFK Jr. tried to defend the indefensible most of these
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shots are for flu or COVID but as the pandemic showed us mRNA vaccines don't perform well
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against viruses that infect the upper respiratory tract counterpoint you you roadkill munching
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why would you say that mRNA vaccines don't perform well against upper repertory infections the
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national institutes of health said they prevented an estimated 14.4 million deaths why why on earth
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is rfk jr so anxious to fill our streets with dead body
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you see he's always being cute there this president trump said in no talent he says he's got 10 more months
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yes i'm not so sure about that i'm not so sure new management over at cbs and paramount to just close i think
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uh and announced it two days ago anyway dr stephen hatville joins us honored to have him on uh when we first
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shifted the show to warm pandemic he was our first he was our first guest but we only had him for like a
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week or 10 days and he went over to the white house to work with dr peter navarre and others during the
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darkest days of the pandemic so sir um walk us through because you're you're taking incoming
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from all over about getting rid of this amazing new technology what was it and i know there's a
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thousand reports out there everything like that but you're a data guy and a science guy walk us through
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what led to the decision of finally getting you know cut you know stopping the underwriting of american
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taxpayer for this experimental gene therapy sir hi stephen good to see you once again
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what happened is that the data had accumulated to the point where meta-analysis studies could be done
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these are very comprehensive analysis and it virtually came back consistently
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that there was no benefit to risk ratio for taking a messenger rna vaccine in fact it was more dangerous
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to take a vaccine than it was to contract covet 19 and be hospitalized with it
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now this is we're now in 2022 that this data started to come out
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the side effects for this essentially gene therapy
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was so enormous and progressive it was difficult to fathom
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and then finally a few months ago some of the detailed biochemistry studies
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and the sudden flood of messenger rna it appears irrespective of what the messenger rna insert is
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coding for just the sheer amount of number of millions of molecules of messenger rna entering the cell
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uh it's disrupting protein metabolism it's interfering with tumor suppressor genes
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it's just completely it's damaging the mitochondria the powerhouses of the cell
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the should should operation of warp speed been done yes of course it had to be done
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but it was always understood at the end of 2020
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that this would be followed very very very carefully
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and it would be halted at the first sign of any strange adverse events
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and we had those strange adverse events very shortly
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and a brief pause was given it was one of the adenovirus
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eventually i think we gave ours to canada it was unsafe
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and then we started seeing the same things with the moderna
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it turns out that the manufacturers did not do due diligence
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to ensure these were safe products before they were released onto the american market
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the drug companies essentially ran the pandemic response
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i don't know what's wrong with that once fine agency
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and then you went over to the white house to work
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what if he had the brightest mind in the war room
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jim predicted trump's electoral college victory
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