Episode 4711: Recap Of The Alaska Summit; Warlords Want Boots On The Ground And Article 5
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In this episode of War Room, we discuss the breakdown in negotiations on a peace deal between Ukraine and the West over the Ukraine conflict, and how the deal could pave the way to peace between the West and Russia.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
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it's saturday 16 august the year of our lord 2025 uh the morning after now you might be sitting
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there if you're a longtime war room audience member part of the war room posse and think wow
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we would think today of all days that you know the crack production team at war room coupled
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with our crack uh production distribution team a real america's voice up in denver would have just
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an amazing cold open that would get us our heads blowing up uh we do have that but we want to
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kind of bifurcate this into signal and noise uh last night it was pretty obvious when president trump
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came back and on the plane had a one and a half hour phone call uh from air force one um the uh
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hour and a half one hour was with zelinski and uh a half hours with the eu the leaders of you know
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certain of the leaders of the european union remember the objectives for this war from the
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beginning for the globalist are to have ukraine as a member of the european union and a member nato
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okay full stop that's what they that's what they've instigated this war over the longest period
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of time yes they talk about democracy and all that yet they overthrew in the color revolution a
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democratically elected although yo a rigged definitely but a rigged or at least had all the
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aspects of a rigged election backing ukraine russia had the got the candidate they want but the color
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revolution overthrew that and zelinski you can't say zelinski's any more democratic since he essentially
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has dictatorial powers and refuses to have a uh another election and now you've seen the rancor
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in uh in his um his parliament and particularly around his corruption and the cronies and oligarchs
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around him the corruption but the enlightening part of yesterday is clearly uh putin is not uh open
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to a ceasefire he says i need a comprehensive deal and the reason he's not going to go to ceasefire he
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says hey i'm winning on the battlefield i may not be winning it may be inch by inch but i'm winning on
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the battlefield so why should i give us ceasefire that's only going to give him a time to rearm and
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regroup it's also give him time it once a ceasefire it'll just stretch on so it's all or nothing you
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give me a peace deal let's work through a comprehensive peace deal nothing no no no ceasefire
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now what whether that was a misinterpretation by anybody on president trump's staff and the negotiating
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team who knows but they were pretty i think blunt that no ceasefire let's get right into a
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comprehensive deal the eu has now leaked the european union has now leaked the conversation
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of president trump and they put out a declaration that declaration and if uh if we can put if we
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can pull that i think i've got it up on getter at least i've linked a part of it on getter
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the european union is is really in president trump's grill talks about security guarantees it implies a
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massive financial commitment for the reconstruction of ukraine uh and in in in the security guarantee
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they basically say in an american-led security guarantee and oh by the way we're there to help
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we're also there to assist okay we're there to assist um zelinski's put out a series of if that's
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not bad enough zelinski's put out a series of demands and he's been invited to the white house
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on monday he's put a series of demands out of which the security guarantee and the financial
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reconstruction is all part of it so if you have the massive financial and we've talked about the
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the ukraine deal which you know we don't love in fact we hate it but if it leads to some some
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getting some sort of peace maybe it's okay the minerals deal this is much different than that and
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more importantly is the american security guarantee which is equivalent to article 5 of nato
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if both of these were take place as a condition precedent to a peace deal have the europe have
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the globalists not achieved their objectives essentially if you have a massive american commitment
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over and above the minerals deal are they not inextricably linked with the european union
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economically of course they are and if we have the equivalent of an american-led or as they said
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even on i think nbc news put up or excuse me it was uh it was axios this morning put up on a summary
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that americans been leaked by the europeans and by zelinski that the americans are warming to
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a bigger commitment on american security guarantee is it not equivalent to having them in nato
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or it's the moral equivalent right or the practical equivalent so i want to go to two through two
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things one the warning yesterday on the show and then what happened and then that's going to take the
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a block then the b block we have a traditional coal open we're going to show you all the vitriol of
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president trump nothing president trump can do in this regard is good enough for him remember this
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is the globalist and the globalist media that started this war the only thing i would say to you
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i think a perfect outcome is like the outcome we're getting right now with the seditious conspiracy
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in the in the multiple uh criminal grant juries that are going on right now that john solomon talked
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about that first you defeat them and then you try them this whole situation of how we got so deeply
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involved in ukraine how the money got there the weapons got there what the americans said what the
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british said what they all said all has to at some point in time have the same exact criminal grand jury
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you're seeing on the seditious treason of of of obama and comey and brennan and all of it and many of
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those characters will be involved in this too this is a crime how we got in this situation
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president trump and they put the entire burden on president trump let's go ahead and play i want to
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kick off with this then we're going to take a break i've got jim rickards is coming in from overseas
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uh he's been so fascinated by this and made so many great calls on this jim rickards will join us we'll
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also have a traditional coal open to open the b block so that can get your blood pressure up and uh and
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maybe have you reaching for another pot and put another pot on of warpath coffee let's go ahead
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and play yesterday's cold open part of it and two things i think we have to be very concerned about
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and and and and and uh uh offer advice to president trump is to avoid two things one a huge underwriting
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commitment to the redevelopment of ukraine we have more than over 37 trillion in debt and two trillion
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dollar deficits and no end in sight and inflation the inflation that say are driven not by terrorists
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but driven by the keynesian stimulus we still put in with these deficits and with congress refusing to
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consider rescissions or pocket rescissions or impoundments that this orgy of spending just
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continues on and on and on that we have to avoid us stepping up and being a major commitment and
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even american financial institutions their focus should be the united states of america we have
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more than enough need for development in this country tremendous needs for development in this
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country you don't need to look in europe and particularly ukraine uh for the united states to
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be involved other and not just the development guarantees and the capital guarantees even darker are
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what we call security guarantees security guarantees essentially mean american not just arms but american
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now maybe it starts off american troops aren't uh aren't aren't there but you set up a tripwire
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like it was it'd be tantamount to including uh ukraine and nato as an article 5 country if the russians
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are doing anything in the future so a security guarantee and any type of economic guarantees we really have
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to fight to make sure that we don't get entrapped further remember the whole purpose of america first is to
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get out of these entanglements to let the europeans and the russians figure it out i i'm an advocate
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that after this is deal is done i don't even know why we have any more combat troops in europe world war
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ii is over this is the 80th commemoration you put this part of the war to bed it's no need for american
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combat troops in germany that the tens of thousands of combat troops we have we have more than enough
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needs uh for hemispheric defense uh throughout the cities of the united states the border of the
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united states down in panama taking back the panama canal in the pacific in our territories not in
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foreign territories but in our territories as rapid deployment forces this should be the focus
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we're following several breaking developments on talks to end russia's war in ukraine a first a
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european official tells cnn that part of their overnight conversations with president donald trump
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included article five type security guarantees for ukraine with european and u.s backing in the
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event of a peace deal president donald trump got back to joint base andrews a few hours ago fresh off
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a summit with president putin in anchorage he just posted new details about the summit and his phone
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call with ukrainian president zelensky and nato leaders on the flight home here's what we know trump says
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everyone agreed that the best way to end the war would be to go straight to a peace agreement
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not a ceasefire deal he went on to say that zelensky would come to washington dc on monday and if that
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works out they would schedule a meeting with putin the hours before zelensky said on x that ukraine is
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ready to go full tilt to achieve peace and he supports president trump's proposal for a trilateral
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meeting after friday's summit both trump and putin claimed progress that's the fight we have today
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and this is why we've got to get out of this ukraine with no money and no security guarantees and out of
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the middle east that's their problems our problems are here at home yeah the key development today
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appears to be the nature of the security guarantees that appear to be the sweetener for any deal for
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ukraine here now we don't have a full readout of the u.s position on this but we've just heard uh from
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european uh leaders statement with the uh eu head ursula von der leyen and eight other nations referring to
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uh the need for concrete security guarantees something that's been added to by french president
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emmanuel macron just now in a social media post referring to the u.s willingness to contribute to
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those security guarantees we have to keep that in mind no security guarantees and no
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un unopening the checkbook for ukrainian development let the europeans they're wealthy nations they want
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to do it let them do it this is their war they instigated this they're the ones that brought this
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down on ukraine and fought to the last ukraine why are we even in this situation today the brave
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ukrainians are now 60 year old people are now uh allowed to go to the battlefield and they're
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recruiting them as fast as they can because ukrainians are naturally patriotic they've been very courageous
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as a people it's been pretty amazing but it's not it's not about that the this war is has nothing to do
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with the vital national security interests the united states you know what does what's happening in los
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angeles what's happening in chicago what's happening and gonna happen in new york after this election
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president trump what he's doing in washington dc today with seizing the institutions and seizing the
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nation's capital and turning it around from being a crime-ridden graffiti uh uh marked hellhole
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let's just cut to the heart of it we're gonna play in the b-block you're gonna get all the noise
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and all the sturm and drung and all of it let's just cut to the let's just cut to the heart of it
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you're adults you're the most important political force in the country it was you're having the back
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of president trump that he led to victory and you helped drive to victory so let's have an adults
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conversation let's just cut to the chase in related news i've got up on getter also
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oh just a tweet that claus uh schwab has been found you know not responsible for any the any of the
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things he did at uh at davos and stealing all the money right they they exonerated him the world
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economic forum but they announced a new co-head larry fink larry this is larry fink that said that the
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united states he would put a trillion dollars of capital or back a trillion dollars of american
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capital going into the reconstruction of the ukraine you notice he didn't say the reconstruction of
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detroit or st louis or or camden uh new jersey right we're either going to be america first or we're not
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when uh the japanese attacked pearl harbor in the memoirs the seven volume memoirs of um
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winston churchill he said when he got the call that the japanese attacked that i think he cried and
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said a small prayer that he knew the second world war was over because the americans were now going to
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join the conflict and i'm not disparaging winston churchill on this but whether it's the regime
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change in persia was the occupation of gaza whether it's peace in ukraine peace at these terms
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every nation on earth is always trying to suck the americans in their young men and women now
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and their money and resources and their time attention and focus we're either america first
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okay everything president trump's trying to do to bring peace to the world and it means nothing
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it's like when president trump i said the meeting between rush limbaugh and president trump after
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president trump won the first time because he and rush had a had a at that time had a problematic
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relationship um and rush spent they spent about two or three hours with each other president trump
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couldn't get enough it absolutely loved it at the end rush when i got there to see rush off
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he said this the essence in front he said the essence what i told president trump was that no matter
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what you do no matter what legislation you pass no matter what you do there is nothing you can do
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nothing legislative law executive order that will ever turn them from wanting to destroy you they're
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out to destroy you that meeting has haunted me what rush limbaugh said to president trump that day and
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it got president trump's attention and it turned out to be one thousand percent true one million percent
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true we had amanda head last night amanda head goes through she's putting a big article of everything
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president trump's done i think of stopping seven wars it doesn't matter to these people you see that
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the coverage yesterday the mainstream media was the worst i've ever seen on anything related to trump
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even even the the the uh the fake crimes and impeachments the viciousness they're foaming at the
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mouth in their hatred of this individual and what he's trying to do so now we're going to play
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our traditional coal open you're going to have it in all its glory and jim rickard's on the other
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side it's treating him um in a friendlier tone than he treats most of our allies yeah um that's what
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it seemed like i mean those images of him just standing there waiting um and then clapping even
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before putin had come up to him and then the hearty handshake i think the world has just seen two
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americas right now one america that welcomed uh a war criminal and another america that has a free
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press in which journalists stand there and get to ask questions that putin never hears anywhere else
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he goes if you had to grade it on a scale of one to ten so i i think the meeting was a ten in the sense
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that we got along great and it's good when you know two big powers get along especially when they're
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nuclear powers you know we're number one they're number two in the world and uh it's a big deal
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that's a big deal you never want to even mention that word the word nuclear but uh we have a tremendous
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nuclear you know i rebuilt it when i was president first term and i hated to rebuild it it was the one
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thing i hated to rebuild but we had to and we have uh the greatest nuclear force we have the greatest
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military in the world actually uh and uh they have a big nuclear presence also we have a very good
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meeting today but we'll see i mean it's you know you have to get a deal we agreed on a lot of points
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i want to see people stop dying in ukraine and that's what's happening we're losing five six seven
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thousand uh they're russians mostly russians and they're ukrainian soldiers there's some people dying
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in cities and towns where they're trying to blow up missile uh manufacturers and other things in some
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cities i don't know if you know what's going on there but uh there are a lot of people dying and
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if we can end that war it would be very good and i was very happy to hear him say if i was president
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that war would have never happened just let's just to be completely transparent with our viewers we
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were prepared for the possibility of a minimalist outcome we were also prepared for the possibility
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of a maximalist outcome we have maps of russia and ukraine such that if we're going to be talking
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tonight we'd have ali velchi at the big board walking us through which territories were where
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and why they were of critical need and want to both um we had full screens about what membership to
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nato means to ukraine um there was so much that could have been discussed tonight including donald trump
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saying if he is not willing he being putin willing to agree to a ceasefire then there are going to be
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consequences we had lists of tariffs and secondary tariffs pulled up the possibility of
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sanctions it is not clear that any of that was discussed it is possible we were more prepared
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for this meeting than he was they have a world war ii veteran in attendance they're honored and
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they're given a flag by some player that isn't playing that night it is who we are world war ii
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is part of the fabric of who we are as a country and today we had an american president standing next to
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uh a ruthless dictator who got that american president to refuse to affirm who we are and
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our commitment to nato and our commitment to this sort of post-world war ii global order it's it's a
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we shouldn't i mean there's so much in the optics that are so galling that that's where my sort of brain
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has gone like a cat chasing the laser but if you sit down and let this sink in and i've been able to do
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that listening to some of you guys this was a cataclysmic event in the american experiment the
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idea that we're an idea nothing that happened today is consistent with the idea of america and vladimir
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said just a little while ago he said i've never seen anybody do so much so fast he said your country
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is like hot as a pistol and a year ago he thought it was dead everybody thought it was dead
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i i i want to be optimistic too but i i'm just not sure and i think this goes back to kind of the
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preparation for this meeting there was reporting first in the european press about steve whitkoff
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the president's uh envoy who met with putin and european leaders are saying that that whitkoff
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understood a critical part of the conversation with putin whitkoff thought that putin talked about
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withdrawing russian forces from part of eastern ukraine to two areas when in fact it looks like putin was
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talking about ukrainian forces withdrawing forces um so that is a tremendous misunderstanding that
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might have raised expectations in washington that this kind of meeting could have succeeded but you
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know as far as we know at this point uh it did not succeed and it's there's got to be some questions
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i think asked about um whitkoff he's been criticized for not bringing his own translator to meetings with
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putin that's sort of shocking to most american diplomats and and just in general not being skilled
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enough or adequately prepared enough for this high level diplomacy well if you're europe you're quite
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worried now because you just saw the president of the united states achieve zero and they will have
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to ask themselves what more are they willing to do knowing that they too could be thrown under the bus
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if russia ever moved uh farther west uh but as far as objectives i was hoping to hear that there would
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be a trilateral meeting that didn't come out of this i was hoping to hear there'd be a ceasefire that
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didn't come out of this i was hoping to at least hear about the territory uh that would be proposed
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or uh exchanged by both sides that didn't come out of this look alicia i don't know if donald trump
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is or is not a russian asset i do know that at press conferences like this and like at helsinki he
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certainly acts like one and that is cold comfort for anyone in the united states particularly in our
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military that the commander-in-chief would be so flattering of and and so charming to a ruthless
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dictator like vladimir putin here's a lot of points i mean a lot of points we're agreed on
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there's not that much there's you know one or two pretty significant items but i think they can be
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reached now it's really up to president zilinski to get it done and i would also say the european nations
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they have to get involved a little bit but it's up to president zilinski i think we we are and if
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they'd like i'll be at that next meeting they're going to set up a meeting now between president
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zilinski and president putin and myself i guess you know i didn't even i didn't ask you about it not
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that i want to be there but i want to make sure it gets done and we we have a pretty good chance of
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getting it done if we had a very good meeting today and i think a lot of points were uh negotiated
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uh on behalf of ukraine and on behalf of you know the whole nato situation where we're dealing very
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well with a lot of foreign countries that are great european countries uh so look as far as i'm
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concerned there's no deal until there's a deal but we did make a lot of progress now what has this
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summit done to america's place sort of on the global stage well it's really united nato in ways
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that are helpful to nato and ukraine as you saw after trump decided that he was going to announce
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a one-on-one meeting saying that oh yeah he would consider you know doing land swaps and giving away
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parts of ukraine you saw the european leaders get on the phone talk to each other they really figured
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out that they also need to work trump in a way that putin and others have and zilinski's gotten
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better at it too to the point where day by day the white house lowered the stakes what was going to
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happen at this meeting and ultimately you know by the time this meeting happened it was called a
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listening session that that's all this was going to be and that again that's to the credit of the
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diplomats and european allies realizing what it is they have to deal with with trump that they they
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are they have to be part of trump's education about putin his history his mindset it's not something
00:26:22.300
that president trump figured out or learned on his own you know in the last 10 years or even in the
00:26:27.500
first go-around in the white house now with that said that also means that europe and other powers
00:26:34.060
have realized that the united states can be played that they need to play the united states and that
00:26:40.060
someone else needs to be the global defender of democracy on the world stage
00:26:48.220
okay uh swalwell right there why have we not opened the criminal uh investigation on him and the chinese
00:26:55.180
spy that he was sleeping with why he sits there and calls president trump not only does he call
00:27:02.220
president trump a russian asset we're back to that he references helsinki that we now know from the
00:27:08.780
emails coming out that was a total setup by the intelligence by the deep state that president trump
00:27:17.020
was accurate when he came out on that stage and actually supported what putin said at the time
00:27:23.580
because his intelligence services of of you know inspired by brennan and comey and clapper and
00:27:30.700
that entire crew hayden were feeding him false information and trying to take down his presidency
00:27:37.980
trying to have a coup d'etat swalwell references that and calling the president a russian asset it's time
00:27:43.980
look it's only going to stop when you make it stop it's time now to play smash mouth with these people
00:27:52.460
and not do their bidding of what they want whatever they want we don't want we want the exact opposite
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here's your host stephen k bannon okay financial times reporting that in the in the room putin did
00:29:38.860
tell president trump he's prepared to back off some of the territorial demands just give me the donesk
00:29:43.260
uh you know kind of even i'm not even sure where the battle lines are drawn maybe even a little bit back
00:29:48.700
so um definitely some movement uh jim records uh so i'm going to go to australia for records
00:29:55.180
and we're going to go to switzerland for finnell so we're going to cover the globe here and talking
00:30:00.300
about this and the pacific and the main thing the chinese communist party start with jim records jim
00:30:05.500
give us your assessment you said the other day don't get your hopes up on this meeting that you're
00:30:09.740
not going to get a peace deal you may get the process you're not going to get a peace deal your
00:30:13.100
your thoughts particularly how the europeans curse starman all these guys coming out saying trump's
00:30:17.980
done such a great job you know and he's stepping up you know they're talking about stepping up for
00:30:21.900
these security guarantees financial guarantees etc the europeans loving on this are they not sir
00:30:28.860
they are um and you know steve i was on the wood war room with the posse last tuesday and i said
00:30:34.220
there's not going to be a deal that's not what i wanted but i said that's what's going to happen
00:30:38.460
and it wasn't a guess i mean i explained why putin has had uh five conditions he had them before the
00:30:44.060
war started in late 2021 he said here's what it will take to prevent the war no one agreed then the
00:30:49.740
war started and he said here's what it will take to end the war but those conditions have not changed
00:30:53.740
and you have to understand putin he's very methodical he doesn't say a lot actually but
00:30:57.740
when he does every word is chosen carefully he does not shoot from the hip and he doesn't bluff
00:31:02.460
that's really all you have to know so that knows when he says something believe him you don't have
00:31:06.620
to agree but you better believe what he's saying um and and he said it all along so i i said that you
00:31:12.700
know on the on the war room last tuesday then the rest of the week i was keeping up with the news
00:31:16.700
i couldn't believe what i was hearing all this you know uh you know sanctions and uh ultimatum and uh
00:31:23.580
you know putting more truths more money into it and all the bad things were going to happen if uh
00:31:28.220
if putin didn't agree as if as if somehow trump could just walk into the room dictate to putin and
00:31:32.860
sign the deal and that was going to be it so it was very delusional i have to admit i don't watch msnbc
00:31:37.580
unless i see a clip on a show like yours on on the war room and uh i was just shaking my head i mean i've
00:31:42.860
had these massive on-air uh you know live air knockdowns with the stephanie rule and the rest
00:31:48.300
of them but i i just you know again i had to use cliches but what what planet are they living on so
00:31:53.500
so what are what are putin's uh terms um he wants neutrality for ukraine not unprecedented by the way
00:31:59.980
austria was neutral during most of the cold war uh not today they're pro-west but they were they
00:32:04.940
were neutral so neutrality for ukraine no nato obviously demilitarization they might have a paramilitary
00:32:11.020
force kind of like uh you know uh federalies or something but but no military and then uh putin
00:32:17.260
and then russia was going to get the land they were going to get donesk luhansk zappos ria kershaw and
00:32:21.820
of course they already have uh crimea and that was it uh and unless you're prepared to do and you could
00:32:27.260
have that deal in five minutes with a phone call with trump trump's not quite there yet so what so it
00:32:32.300
was easy to see that there wasn't going to be a deal now what did happen in the summit what what happened
00:32:37.420
in the room and yeah i wasn't an accurate just to be clear but it's not easy to um uh together not
00:32:43.660
difficult to gather the information the the biggest benefit the best thing that came out of this uh
00:32:48.620
summit was that trump got to listen to putin unfiltered one-on-one in the back of the car
00:32:54.460
in the room etc maybe two other people in the room but but that was it um you didn't have marco
00:32:59.500
rubio fighting for the europeans you didn't have general kellogg fighting for the ukrainians you
00:33:04.220
didn't have lindsey graham and tom cotton talking about bone crushing sanctions you know that's
00:33:08.140
their their their favorite word you didn't have all those filters um around them you just had trump
00:33:13.980
and putin and trump is you know obviously smart enough to uh more than smart enough to listen to
00:33:18.860
putin and take him at his word now trump walks out says okay we're not going to have a bad deal
00:33:23.340
we're going to start a peace process that's what putin has said all along he doesn't want this to be
00:33:28.380
just about ukraine he wants this to be about the european security situation basically as you put
00:33:34.140
it getting war two behind us and going on uh going on in the future he wants a much bigger platform
00:33:40.380
by the way one not to not to nitpick but in uh trump's interview with hannity he said you know
00:33:45.420
it's serious when two nuclear powers come together yeah that's true he said we're number one russia's
00:33:50.220
number two that's not correct russia's number one we're number two they have more they have 8 000
00:33:54.700
nuclear warheads so trump had the right instinct that this was this could not have been more serious
00:33:59.660
but russia actually has a larger nuclear arsenal than uh than we do so trump's um trump had wins
00:34:06.300
and losses his losses were he looks bad on the ultimatum he laid down an ultimatum nothing came
00:34:11.020
of it he looks bad on secondary sanctions he threatened them and you know again nothing came
00:34:15.420
of it um india got slapped a little bit but india doesn't care uh and then the third thing he said
00:34:20.620
there'll be terrible consequences if putin doesn't putin doesn't agree and there are no consequences
00:34:25.340
they're going to have continuing dialogue by the way it's it's good that trump failed on those
00:34:29.660
three things they were all they were all bad ideas and i said so at the time so so that's good so now
00:34:34.300
we're moving on to what putin has always wanted which will give us peace in ukraine which is a much
00:34:39.500
broader settlement uh along those lines as far as the europeans are concerned stevie but they're vassals
00:34:46.060
i mean there's no better way no no other way to understand the european world they're vassals
00:34:51.180
of the united states it's unusual for vassals to talk back to the master but you know whatever
00:34:56.060
you got to tolerate it they don't have it they don't have any military they russia has uh 20
00:35:01.420
divisions in ukraine and 20 more ready to go you know back in russia ready to move in europe couldn't
00:35:08.060
put together three divisions if they tried i mean that would be probably two from the uk and maybe one
00:35:12.620
from germany and france they'd have to scrape together some french foreign legion they don't have
00:35:16.140
any troops they don't have any weapons they don't have any money other than that you know it's all good
00:35:20.860
so so europe is uh but in a way and this is strange europe comes out of this as a winner
00:35:26.620
and here's why they want the war to continue well the war is going to continue because trump didn't
00:35:34.300
apparently get the message what putin really wanted early enough and they've done everything
00:35:38.300
possible they did everything possible to blow up this summit and to that extent they succeeded now
00:35:43.020
you're gonna have more dead ukrainians on their on their hands put blood on their hands but they
00:35:46.620
don't really uh really seem to care so the war is going to continue um and again why should you
00:35:52.220
know you asked uh last week you said well i hear all that i hear all that but that that's the that's
00:35:57.580
that's that's the process these things all have a process right it's all process and i get that but
00:36:03.580
this gets down to two fundamental issues that the europeans are too broke and not prepared to commit
00:36:08.940
that the the reconstruction of ukraine the financial reconstruction of ukraine now you got larry fink over there
00:36:14.140
is as head of the party of davos that the the reconstruction of ukraine which they've already
00:36:19.340
said is going to take a trillion dollars or more the united states has got to be a big part of that
00:36:23.420
and more importantly they want a equivalent of an article five security guarantee that means and
00:36:29.740
and the ukrainians here's the thing there's enough people in ukraine one thing that's been constant in
00:36:35.020
this war is the courage valor uh urgency ingenuity of the of the ukrainian military they had a drone
00:36:45.660
strike like i said curtis lemay as head of the strategic air command can never even think about
00:36:51.820
in in giving a security guarantee the ukrainians are kind of like the irish you're going to have a
00:36:56.940
third of them and say no we didn't want to stop this war they're always going to be pushing the envelope
00:37:01.340
just don't think it's going to be peace in the valley that you're just going to sit there and
00:37:04.620
say okay we have this deal and and putin's got the russian-speaking you know even donesk if he
00:37:09.980
doesn't take kershov and all these others right he just takes what he's already got there's going to be
00:37:14.460
a lot of people over there say hey we got sold out by the americans we got to get these brothers right
00:37:19.500
so a security guarantee is this is going to be an occupied territory uh like the west bank this is and
00:37:28.060
they're going to have an article five with america being the big guarantor like america's the guarantor
00:37:32.700
of nato this is a no-win situation for for the americans they've laid it out this requires and my point
00:37:38.860
is like hey zelinski's coming over you said it the vassal states acts like the masters you got zelinski
00:37:45.580
the the mediates lead headline this morning was zelinski gives trump a list of demands as he comes
00:37:53.580
over to have a meeting in the oval office i thought we ran this twerp out of here six months ago right
00:37:59.420
when he had demands at that time now he's coming over with another list of demands it's going to be
00:38:03.660
endless and as long as uncle sugar is there to back him up financially and to back him up militarily
00:38:11.020
then the objectives of how they got the world into this mess and they should stand trial for this as
00:38:16.300
criminals how they got the world into this mess and let a million ukrainians dead or wounded and a
00:38:22.300
million russians dead or wounded they're going to be the beneficiaries jim records am i am i is
00:38:27.820
anything there i'm not seeing in the clarity of where we are no you're exactly right and it goes back
00:38:34.140
even much further than you described from the beginning all zelenskis wanted and very much uh
00:38:40.380
emmanuel macron um and the german chancellor's also been a couple of them they want american boots on
00:38:46.060
the ground they'll start with two boots and they'll they'll it'll be 200 000 and it'll be
00:38:50.540
a half a million or more and by the way that's why i keep bringing up vietnam it's not old news
00:38:54.940
this is a replay of what happened to lbj in vietnam but they want american boots on the ground
00:38:59.100
and they want article 5. americans really have to understand what article 5 says it says an attack
00:39:04.140
on one is an attack on all so if ukraine has article 5 guarantees even if they don't join nato
00:39:10.620
if they have a treaty that gives them the security guarantee the equivalent of article 5 protection
00:39:15.980
and you put american boots on the ground and one russian kills one american which will happen that
00:39:20.460
that i guarantee that will happen then all of a sudden u.s and right the us and russia at war it
00:39:25.340
is world war three we are talking about nuclear arsenals and uh and zelensky doesn't seem to care
00:39:30.860
it's incomprehensible to me i mean i know what it is i can't imagine why anyone thinks that's a good
00:39:35.660
idea the best thing for the us is just to get out and by the way steve you know last tuesday we told
00:39:40.380
the audience what was going to happen in alaska and it played out let me tell you what's going to happen
00:39:44.540
next can we this is yeah sorry guys by the way just just to make sure people understand the the
00:39:50.780
attack on and for against russia strategic assets all came out of wiesbaden with british you know mi6
00:39:58.220
the cia dia german intelligence all of them kind of running the operation the ukrainians are there
00:40:04.380
and when you look at those villages people should sit there and look at the carnage that's happened
00:40:09.340
this is world war level world war one western front level carnage like in belgium in the low
00:40:16.460
countries okay this is western front with not a not a tree standing houses destroyed every one of
00:40:23.020
those houses has dead ukrainian children dead ukrainian women these guys brothers their
00:40:28.540
sisters the ukrainians are like the irish they're hotheads a llama hotheads they're gonna sit there and go
00:40:33.020
hey these guys killed it i want vengeance a security guarantee is going to be every day it's going to be like
00:40:38.940
the west bank or like you had the troubles in northern ireland you got two groups that don't
00:40:43.180
like each other that have centuries of hate and animosity and now you've got blood all over the
00:40:48.540
place they're not going to sit there and go oh this is a new day dawning let's give a group hug it
00:40:52.140
ain't going to be a group hug okay particularly when the territories the russian army is not going to
00:40:57.020
give up the territory they're sitting on okay and people say hey that's our territory a security
00:41:01.340
guarantee is just not something theoretical it's practical and the records the question for you
00:41:06.860
can we get an overall russian rapprochement right and some overarching deal with the russians
00:41:13.900
if we don't somehow insert ourselves in the ukraine or can the russians just keep pounding ukraine
00:41:20.140
and somehow the americans work out a deal with the russians say hey that's a european problem is that
00:41:25.580
practical is that not practical in the unfortunate real world we deal in sir i i don't see how this
00:41:32.540
comes to an end without involvement by the u.s i don't necessarily mean i don't mean boots on the
00:41:36.060
ground don't mean that at all we're already supplying them with weapons and uh you know the
00:41:39.580
the brits and germans and the intelligence satellite surveillance all that stuff and by the way steve i
00:41:44.620
don't denigrate the heroism and role of the ukrainian troops but these drone strikes on moscow which
00:41:50.700
you referred to they're all coming from from us and uh basically u.s technology would help them
00:41:55.660
the uk and the germans so it's really us operating through a through a proxy the ukrainians really
00:42:00.620
can't do that uh can't do that on their own but um the u.s is going to have to be involved in the
00:42:05.020
settlement basically you got to agree to putin's terms i i laid out what they were there's no reason
00:42:09.900
putin should reduce those terms because he's winning that when you win you get to keep stuff that
00:42:15.100
that you know i've said that before you know what how did israel get the you know the west bank and
00:42:18.940
the golan heights and uh um uh you know parts of syria and east jerusalem well they kept winning
00:42:24.940
wars and they got to keep it and the same thing with russia in eastern ukraine so um but uh you
00:42:30.860
can end the war on putin's and putin's terms because he won now the key the key to that is getting
00:42:37.180
rid of selensky and that's what's going to happen next selensky standing the way he's not just a
00:42:41.900
war monger he's very much a pawn of the the the banderas banderistas the uh you know those
00:42:48.300
political and intellectual descendants of stephan bandera who was a pro-nazi sympathizer and ukraine
00:42:54.060
was very active supporting the wehrmacht in the holocaust and they were those those you know in
00:42:59.100
the u.s we throw the word nazi around i don't but a lot of people do loosely well if you want to find
00:43:02.940
real nazis go to ukraine yeah hang on one second it's the middle of the night
00:43:08.780
where uh where our brother jim records is i'm gonna ask you to hold on we're gonna take a short
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okay they're trying to put the entire burden on this on president trump uh there's a big story on
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getter i think on the daily news over the daily news a brief that getter does about um the russia
00:45:02.780
already sterned it up with uh the brics nations of which they're one of the most important about
00:45:06.940
de-dollarization that's a trigger word you want to trigger president trump and get him roaring mad
00:45:12.460
talk about de-dollarization this is one of the reasons he's so focused on lula in this collection
00:45:18.060
of uh folks in brazil by the way bolsonaro eduardo great photo don't know if i put it up yet uh from the
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treasury department with our own secretary scott besson the other day just absolutely incredible
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also it comes with a ton of responsibilities and sometimes our financial leads shirk those
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responsibilities captain jim finnell joins us captain finnell uh and i want to set
00:46:20.860
aside the natural bias you and i have as pacific fleet sailors but look over the strategically you're
00:46:28.620
you're the best i know at keeping the main thing the main thing that our twilight struggle with the
00:46:35.100
chinese communist party uh as the existential threat to the not just citizens of china but to the citizens
00:46:42.700
of the world particularly the united states of america and what you've seen in the last week or so
00:46:47.100
and particularly yesterday and what's forecast for happening on monday and going forward where do we
00:46:53.420
stand sir well steve uh first of all i don't think we have to apologize for being sailors in a maritime
00:47:01.180
theater but that's another story um the most important thing is what we saw yesterday i woke at 2 30 in the morning
00:47:09.580
here i watched the uh the arrivals of both presidents then i watched the statements that were made in that
00:47:16.460
12 minute conference or press statement and i thought okay this is step forward then i started turning on
00:47:25.180
the social media and the newspapers and all of a sudden it's all the only word i saw was failure failure
00:47:31.820
failure and i'm thinking to myself well what do you want you want more death you've already had a million
00:47:37.500
people killed these are the same people for 35 years that told us we must unabashedly engage with
00:47:44.460
the chinese communist party and give them access to the world trade organization give them access to our
00:47:50.460
markets and sell sell every sell our people out for them and then allow fentanyl to come in and kill
00:47:55.340
hundreds of thousands so i don't understand i do understand because these people are hypocrites and
00:48:01.100
they're pushing everything they're pushing is based on their hatred of one man and their love of the deep
00:48:06.860
state and the federal bureaucracy over the constitution but what this means in terms of
00:48:12.140
relationship between the united states and russia and russia and china and china and the united states
00:48:17.900
is very important for instance in this last few months as you've talked about on the show the united
00:48:23.180
states sends two aircraft carrier strike groups into the middle east to help the europeans have their
00:48:30.460
waterway their key choke point the red sea and the suez canal stay open because of huti rebel attacks
00:48:36.700
while that while at the same time nato nations the uk um france and italy uh sent aircraft carriers
00:48:47.100
from europe into the pacific what is that about it's just more of the same for the last 40 years of not
00:48:54.860
really taking uh responsibility for what's the most important thing in the area where you live
00:49:01.180
so instead of sending those european aircraft carriers out to the pacific why weren't they staying
00:49:07.100
and assisting us and relieving some of our burden to attack the houthis and open up that critical
00:49:13.020
waterway for them while our carriers could be out here in the pacific helping to deter the aggression
00:49:19.900
that we're seeing from the chinese like we saw this week and so i think we're at a point right now
00:49:25.980
where you know president trump is doing what's required to end this war to stop the bleeding but more
00:49:32.220
importantly to get america to be able to shift our attention as our whole of government off of only europe
00:49:41.340
and get it into focusing on the main thing which is what the chinese are doing and the knife that they
00:49:47.740
have to our jugular vein that they've built over the last 35 years and it's it's incredibly important
00:49:53.900
to do that and for those who would say well this guy doesn't really know anything about you know
00:49:58.620
russians and all that well i will just say when i was a lieutenant i tracked ballistic soviet ballistic
00:50:04.140
missile submarines and 10 years ago when i was the chief of intelligence for the u.s pacific fleet i tracked
00:50:09.020
russian long-range bombers that flew 50 miles off the coast of san francisco when barack hussein obama was
00:50:15.260
president we didn't do anything about it so i won't take any of that we shouldn't take any of
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those kind of accusations from the likes of nicole wallace and these other charlatans we know what's
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important we know that the relationship with russia is very significant we know as jim ricker just said
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they got more nuclear bombs than we do so it's a very important situation but we got to get our act
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together about dealing with the people's republic of china and we have not done that for 35 years and it's
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time that we have our whole of government doing that and president trump is turning the ship the
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state towards that and he's taken arrows for doing what is the right thing for our national security
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