On this episode of the War Room, host Steve Kambain is joined by Jack Posobiec and Charlie Kirk to discuss the ongoing investigation into the events at the University of Utah and other events hosted by Turning Point USA.
00:01:13.000What, it's dignified debate or something.
00:01:15.000It's another way that the progressive left unable to win at the ballot box and unable to basically have real political power are now escalating into extreme violence and covered by and covered by folks like Cox and Polis are saying,
00:01:33.000no, we just have to have a more calm debates and all this other stuff is hate speech.
00:01:39.000I remember Utah, which blows me away, according to Sheila Matthews and the team over at Able Child has the biggest mental health crisis like among their kids.
00:01:51.000Nobody knows it better than Jack Posobiec.
00:01:54.000Jack, you've been helping out the team at Charlie Kirk's and the Charlie Kirk Show and everybody.
00:01:59.000Can you give us an update on just where we stand with everything that the investigation I've getting a lot of feedback from local law enforcement around the country saying they're not excited about the Utah investigation,
00:02:11.000although not a lot has come out, but just your sense of things.
00:02:34.000It's like a lot of people have a lot of questions.
00:02:36.000There's stuff that I know that I can't get ahead of because of the legal process.
00:02:40.000There's stuff that that has not yet been released yet because it will be released at court.
00:02:46.000And really, that's that's pretty much all I can say about that.
00:02:50.000I'm sure as you and other people can understand, you know, our hands are tied when it comes to certain pieces of information that are are going to be withheld for at least right now,
00:02:59.000because they will be presented at trial and that they're being protected for that purpose while the investigation.
00:03:06.000And I should say investigations are ongoing.
00:03:10.000And that's that's really all I can say about it.
00:03:12.000As far as Turning Point USA, look, this is full steam ahead.
00:03:16.000We're at flank speed right now, Steve, which I know you're familiar with.
00:04:01.000And by the way, the rest of the Charlie's tour will continue.
00:04:04.000And we're going to have a series of guest speakers, all star speakers, perhaps even some nationwide elected officials will be taking part in this tour because we are not backing down.
00:04:29.000And we're going to continue to do that, not only on campus, but even, by the way, in New Jersey, where the governor's raised right there is a jump ball just one month away from the election.
00:04:41.000Now, the New Jersey, but Charlie would be all over that with the the ground game of Turning Point.
00:04:48.000It's so great, the spirit of Charlie, which would always be all a head flank.
00:04:53.000A subsidiary of all this is clearly you heard President Trump when he came out of the memorial service.
00:05:03.000He came back from Charlie's memorial service, signed that first step in designating Antifa, a terrorist organization, and then had the bigger, as they thought it through, the bigger event about a week later.
00:05:16.000And and now it's full force in Portland, Oregon last night.
00:05:45.000But he has been charged with disorderly conduct.
00:05:49.000There are multiple videos of not just taken by Nick, but also of Nick not only being arrested, but in the moments leading up to his arrest.
00:05:59.000And during this point, there is a scuffle where Nick himself was attacked by a group of Antifa, a group of the black block.
00:06:26.000He asked the police what he's being charged with in the car.
00:06:29.000They wouldn't even tell him what he was being charged with.
00:06:31.000And it was only afterwards upon his release that he was giving his charge of disorderly conduct while he, again, was just trying to film and document as a journalist.
00:06:41.000And Nick Sorter has been to so many places.
00:06:43.000He's Palestinian, of course, being the the first one to really put him on the map, breaking that story that he's gone everywhere and has never once engaged in anything other than hard hitting journalism.
00:06:54.000And yet in the city of Portland, that is where he was arrested.
00:06:58.000And, Steve, you know, this is the typical of the anarcho tyranny that we've talked about.
00:07:03.000They will not arrest the criminal for attacking you, but they will arrest you for defending yourself.
00:07:09.000I mean, this says everything you need about that.
00:07:16.000But given the footage we've seen and the way they back off and they have the chief dialogue officer with the blue hair and everything like that, and they have the governor and mayor lying every day.
00:07:26.000I mean, and now you have a situation where and let me just make sure I understand that if everything happened last night and the local neighbors, particularly a lot of minorities around there, they have to go.
00:07:36.000They have to go to work every day, have to get up early.
00:07:39.000They got those kind of jobs, can't get to sleep at night.
00:08:05.000And he said, well, look, I was in the regular holding cell, but nobody else was there because he was the only person that the police had arrested, I guess, in that precinct.
00:08:16.000And so he spent the night completely by himself because all of the other assaults, all the other violence, which is clearly documented on video, some by Nick, a lot of it by Nick himself.
00:08:28.000Not a single one of those people were arrested, as well as my colleague, Katie Davis Court, who was assaulted, had a flagpole, nearly took her eye out the other night from postmillennial.
00:08:40.000And she runs to the police and says, that's the person that just swung a flagpole at me and nearly took my eye out.
00:08:47.000And the police allow that person to walk away.
00:09:07.000President Trump set a team up there to basically tamp down, which was some pushback they're getting from the war on the cartels.
00:09:15.000And particularly the amphibious ready amphibious readiness group they've got off Venezuela, of which they said, look, let me be blunt.
00:09:23.000These are non state actors and we're at war.
00:09:25.000And when we say we're at war, we're not just legally and or we're not just using legal methods for the law and we're not using financial methods.
00:09:32.000We're going to go kinetic on these guys.
00:09:34.000This is a pretty big escalation, is it not?
00:09:37.000As you see, by the way, the secretary were going to Memphis saying we're going to basically support law enforcement there to shut down all this crime.
00:09:44.000You see in Portland, you have 200 National Guard now out on the streets every night.
00:09:49.000They're actually talking about to try to get ahead of the War Powers Act on Capitol Hill.
00:09:54.000What's your perspective on this, Jack?
00:09:59.000President Trump and the administration, as well as, of course, our secretary of war, are doing everything.
00:10:05.000We gave that great speech the other day, by the way, the best speech the military has heard since General Patton.
00:10:11.000This is a time we're putting the defense of the homeland first.
00:10:16.000And this is the hemispheric defense that we've championed here on War Room that I've talked about on Human Events Daily that we talk about everywhere.
00:10:24.000This idea that we need to get back to the idea that America as a sea power needs to protect our waterways first before we reach out and talk about the waterways of the world.
00:10:37.000So before we go to the Straits of Malacca, before we go to Babel Mendeb, Strait of Hormuz, all the rest of it, Taiwan Strait, we've got to make sure the Gulf of America, the Caribbean, the Panama Canal, and then all the way up to where Greenland and the GI-UK gap that all of this are secured because these are the direct areas that protect our homeland.
00:11:00.000And one of the key facilitators, by the way, of the new opium war that's been waged right now on US soil, look, I'm here, Steve, I'm here in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:11:45.000And you heard that from Hegseth, the Secretary of War.
00:11:47.000You're hearing it from Miller as well.
00:11:49.000It's a whole of government approach, legal, drug enforcement and military to stop the fentanyl war that is being waged on Americans.
00:12:02.000Jack, if you can hang on, because I want to get into Sunday and what you're invited to do, what we're going to cover here in Real America's Voice.
00:12:08.000I just want to bring up and get your thoughts on this.
00:12:11.000So just moments ago, the president said, and he's going to be, you know, it's kind of 10 a.m. in the morning to five in the afternoon for this amazing naval exercise and celebration, commemoration of the 250th anniversary of the United States Navy.
00:12:26.000The president has just announced at 6 p.m.
00:12:46.000And at 6 p.m., one minute after 6 p.m., all hell is going to break loose.
00:12:49.000Now the president of the United States, Jennifer Jacobs, over at CBS News, is reporting, quote, I am asking that all innocent Palestinians immediately leave this area of potentially great future death for safer parts of Gaza.
00:13:04.000Jack, we've got about a minute and a half here.
00:13:06.220We're going to hold you through break.
00:13:08.580Well, Steve, look, I think the leverage that Steve Witkoff put on the Qataris, the way of working through them as intermediaries, I know it's been controversial.
00:13:19.380I've certainly made comments about the Qataris many times in the past.
00:13:22.340But you need to be able to do that to get this leverage on Hamas as well as on the Hamas leaders, by the way, who are not in Gaza.
00:15:14.760It just cannot keep up with that demand.
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00:18:00.780This is the Atlantic test range where this is going to be taking place.
00:18:04.460So, don't worry if you're out there in Virginia Beach, if you're out there boating or sailing,
00:18:10.580or if you're, you know, happening to fly in through the flight area.
00:18:13.560Obviously, there's going to be closures.
00:18:15.060Planes have to be rerouted through this.
00:18:17.020This is the Atlantic test range where this is going to take place.
00:18:20.120And President Trump is heading down to Norfolk.
00:18:23.860And he is going to be participating in this live fire exercise to celebrate the 250th birthday of the greatest Navy in the history of planet Earth,
00:18:36.300the United States Navy, and the most powerful Navy on the planet.
00:20:16.000The reason this is so important is that, as Jack just said so eloquently, is that we're having a shift now to what we call hemispheric defense.
00:20:26.660It doesn't mean America's not going to be engaged throughout the world.
00:20:29.640In fact, what we want is kind of a rollback of the American empire and more of an expeditionary force like President Trump unleashed to end the 12-day war.
00:20:38.160But the Navy is a central part of that, and obviously, there's got to be a major shipbuilding part of this, and that's why I think it's very important for folks to actually start to understand it.
00:20:47.740This is what we're going to do all day.
00:20:48.840All day on the show, we're going to be talking about naval history.
00:20:51.820We're going to talk about the evolution of the United States Navy, the great victories the Navy has brought, particularly in the Pacific in World War II.
00:20:59.020We're going to walk through, you know, we're going to have tons of experts on, and particularly during the couple of hours of the live fire demonstration.
00:21:08.700But, Jack, now in particular, look, President Trump sent guys up to Capitol Hill, team up to Capitol Hill the other day to kind of get ahead of the War Powers Act situation by telling them, say, hey, look, these are non-state actors, these drug cartels.
00:21:21.320But they're as powerful as many state actors, and we're going to eradicate them, not just using the law and legal and locking guys up, not just using border patrols, just not using the financial aspect of it.
00:21:34.580We're actually going to go kinetic on these guys, and going kinetic, you've got an amphibious readiness group of 4,000 fleet Marines and sailors off the coast of Venezuela right now.
00:21:46.020So this couldn't be any more topical, sir.
00:21:48.700Well, that's exactly right, and I certainly hope that the cartels, Trent de Aragua, and any other cartel or even state actor takes notice of the work of the United States Navy when they're out there, Virginia Capes, in that op area, performing and showing for the entire world the sea power of the ability of the United States Navy to put warheads on foreheads, to conduct VBSS searches,
00:22:15.500and in some cases where it's necessary to take out these boats, these semi-submersibles that have been used by cartels.
00:22:26.940I mean, Steve, these are very sophisticated forces.
00:29:39.440As America celebrates 250 years of Navy power, brace yourself for missile launches, roaring jets, thunderous firepower, and the full force of America's sea strength on display.
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00:33:33.340And what I would hate to see is I would hate to see that it would divide us again in yet another way where 127 million people normally come together to watch it.
00:33:41.840And that there would perhaps be, you know, counter shows that would be out there to say, look, if you don't want to watch a halftime performance and watch Bad Bunny, come watch this.
00:33:50.340And it's probably going to be tempting, even for me, because, you know, I would like to watch a great performance and I like to sing along.
00:33:56.880So what when you come out with something like this, you know, you're putting yourself in the middle of cultural wars, right?
00:34:05.160And MAGA is constantly at war of progressive left.
00:34:07.940But as an athlete, I mean, you started driving, reviewing your history, you started driving when you were a very small girl.
00:34:15.540You weren't really engaged in politics at all until recently, right?
00:34:18.600Or even had seemed like much awareness about politics or much interest in it.
00:34:26.060You know, as a race car driver and as someone that that's an athlete and someone that represented a lot of companies, I spoke about this with the Jimmy Kimmel situation.
00:34:36.120You know, so long as I'm you're paid by someone else and your career is up to someone else, you kind of got to follow the rules.
00:34:43.940And for me, there was always there was never a direct ask, but an unspoken rule that you really don't talk about politics and religion.
00:34:51.440Those are just the things you just stay away from.
00:34:53.700And I was totally fine with that agreement.
00:34:56.860And and, you know, maybe that was what drove my lack of interest or in curiosity.
00:35:01.700But I would say that obviously now in my post career and retirement and, you know, being able to sort of choose my choose my adventure politics, it brought me in last year.
00:35:12.740And really, if we're going to bring another obvious obvious name that has been in the news so much in such tragic ways, Charlie Kirk is the one who did it.
00:35:20.840I went to AmFest in 2023, first ever political event.
00:35:25.200And thereafter, I went and did Tucker's show in Florida.
00:35:28.420And then Charlie reached out to me after I came back and said, hey, I didn't want to bother you, but I know you came to the event and I'd love to have you on the show.
00:35:34.640And and that sort of started started my political adventure and journey.
00:35:40.980What was it about AmFest or what was it about the message of Charlie Kirk or going Tucker?
00:35:45.180What was it that that led to your awakening?
00:35:47.660What what kind of specific ideas struck you?
00:35:53.480I don't know if it necessarily was new ideas that struck me as much as it was such a fun gathering.
00:35:59.300Like a turning point has turned rallies and these events into really fun, you know, shows with pyrotechnics and, you know, lights and all kinds of beautiful things and great, great videos to prepare every get every speaker that came on.
00:36:16.100And then, of course, having great speakers.
00:36:18.340So so I think that I think it was just a it was just a super fun event.
00:36:22.120It's it's definitely a lot of my belief system growing up in the Midwest and racing and NASCAR.
00:36:29.820But I would I guess I would truly describe myself as someone that probably lives a little bit more liberally.
00:36:38.000I you know, I think that people generally should be able to kind of live their lives the way they want.
00:36:43.080But, you know, I've always believed that the country should be run in a more conservative fashion and definitely by a businessman.
00:36:49.340And so I can't think of a better man than Donald Trump.
00:36:52.120Well, what's it's one thing to go to Turning Point and do Tucker is another thing to actually get out in a heated campaign when it's all on the line, which you did and actually campaign for President Trump.
00:37:03.500So what was it that had that you're leveling up all the time?
00:37:08.480What what caused that leveling up to actually go and be one of the I would say one of the most I can say this because I was watching it from a federal prison.
00:37:16.920You've got a lot of attention on the campaign trail among the among the no among the guys.
00:37:34.600I think my fan base is about 75 percent male still.
00:37:37.460So no matter how many biohacking adventures I put out there and fashionista moments at Formula One races, I still have 75 percent male fans.
00:37:47.400But honestly, it was Tulsi Gabbard again back at AmFest in 2023.
00:37:52.880I saw her speak and I looked at her social media and saw that she followed me.
00:37:57.420And so I sent her a direct message and she just you know, our friendship began there.
00:38:02.640Then she had a book come out called For Love of Country.
00:38:05.260So I interviewed her for my podcast and then she started inviting me on things.
00:38:09.840She invited me to to moderate for her and RFK on the Reclaim America tour.
00:38:14.360So I went and did that in Vegas and then many other things came after that.
00:38:54.180I run those accounts and share share more of my feelings than I ever used to.
00:38:59.240As you pointed out, Steve, that's for sure.
00:39:01.100Very powerful, particularly given your commitment to your sport and to being a great one of the greatest athletes we've had over the last couple of decades.
00:39:16.200That takes courage because every time she steps out and talks about MAGA, talks about President Trump, talks about Make America Healthy Again, they're after her.
00:39:25.540Like our next guest, I think we've got the great MTG joins us.
00:39:29.140So, Congressman, I got I got a question that's bothering me.
00:39:32.120The president of these United States comes back from Charlie Kirk.
00:39:35.240He's been working on this for a while.
00:39:36.560He got he got tapped along by Bill Barr and these guys in the summer of 2020.
00:39:42.500He gets a preliminary thing of designating Antifa as a terrorist organization.
00:39:46.540Then he comes back a couple of days later with a like a 25 page detail analysis of why they're a terrorist organization and all the affiliate groups like armed queers of Salt Lake City, all these affiliates.
00:39:57.220He's he's he's he's now focused and he's not going to be taken off message.
00:40:06.100And you've got a bill out there, ma'am, for Congress to do their job, the House to do their job.
00:40:12.580My question is, do you have 215 co-sponsors from the Republican Party on your bill to actually designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, ma'am?
00:40:24.780That would require Republicans to actually grow a backbone and stop being cowards.
00:40:29.860I've had this bill in place for years and for some reason, the Republicans in Congress, we haven't even brought it to the floor for a vote.
00:40:38.440This is the easiest vote that Republicans can take.
00:41:17.840And this is why the people have to keep demanding that their elected leaders, the people they elect to the House and the Senate, continue to do their jobs and work for them.
00:41:27.900See, we started the show with Marco Pudo Axios, and we're going to end the show with Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.
00:41:36.900Axios got this really brilliant piece about how Trump's consolidating power in the executive, right, and doing all these things.
00:41:44.520But I keep telling people, unless we codify his executive orders into law, it goes away when President Trump goes away.
00:41:53.640I mean, he can have all this stuff, but to make it irreversible, you have to codify it into law.
00:41:58.540What is the House – I'm going to hold you through the break – but what does the House not get about not just this, but everything he's trying to do?
00:42:04.760If we don't codify it, it's up to the next president who decides whether it exists or not.
00:42:12.800Steve, you and I are completely on the same page.
00:42:14.740The strategy in place right now where the executive branch is really taking all the power away from Congress and doing all the tasks and actions through OMB and through executive orders is literally making President Trump a temporary president with temporary policies.
00:42:34.300I have been barking about this in our conference and also with White House staff for months now because this is not why I ran for Congress.
00:42:43.800It's the House and the Senate that has to pass legislation and Republican appropriation bills in order to make President Trump's policies permanent and make them law.
00:42:54.480And while I love the cuts Russ is making, Congress should also be making those cuts, and we should be doing it through appropriations and legislation.
00:43:02.500Executive orders that we voted for, they should be passed and passed into law.
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00:45:42.180This whole let's let Russ vote at OMB, and I love Russ, and I agree with him on many things, but let's let him take over Congress and do everything.
00:45:52.280I mean, it's literally like he's doing Congress's job.
00:45:55.160It's going to make Trump not only temporary, it's going to make him a speed bump in history.
00:46:00.780And the American people, I fought too hard to get that man into office, and it infuriates me.
00:46:05.840And I've literally told him on the phone, this is what is happening to you.
00:48:14.840This country is so far divided between Republican and Democrat policies.
00:48:20.120It's time that Republicans learn how to wield power and learn how to use power and put that power into play for exactly what the people voted for.
00:48:30.640And, Steve, we can't talk about it long enough.
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