Bannon's War Room - October 11, 2025


Episode 4844: Rise Of The Economic Trade War With China


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

176.34076

Word Count

9,668

Sentence Count

158

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

36


Summary

The government is shut down, and the Dow and S&P 500 hit new all-time lows after a tweet from President Trump about a new round of trade tariffs on China. Meanwhile, the White House continues to lay off federal workers, and a judge blocks the president from sending the National Guard to Chicago.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It left town until Tuesday, and the House will not be in session all next week.
00:00:05.100 In the meantime, the White House is following through with the president's threat
00:00:08.420 to permanently fire some federal workers.
00:00:11.840 Earlier today, OMB Director Russell Vogt, who has become one of the most powerful people
00:00:15.800 in this administration, announced that the layoffs have begun.
00:00:19.560 They're also appealing a judge's ruling that temporarily blocked Trump
00:00:23.520 from sending the National Guard to the city of Chicago.
00:00:26.000 Meanwhile, another one of the president's perceived enemies could soon face charges.
00:00:31.140 MSNBC reports that the acting U.S. attorney in Maryland is moving to seek charges
00:00:36.820 against former National Security Advisor Trump's former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
00:00:42.320 A complaint or an indictment could come as early as next week.
00:00:46.320 The Justice Department has already charged New York Attorney General Tish James
00:00:49.780 and former FBI Director Jim Comey after public pressure from Trump himself.
00:00:54.560 The big question now on everyone's mind, who could be next?
00:00:58.740 The Dow plunged nearly 900 points on a Friday.
00:01:02.580 The Nasdaq lost 3.5% in its total value, and the S&P had its worst day since mid-April.
00:01:08.440 Mid-April.
00:01:09.160 That was back when Trump threatened a 145% tariff on China.
00:01:14.300 Well, today's sell-off immediately followed a Trump post on social media this morning.
00:01:19.400 Threatening a new round of tariffs on China,
00:01:21.340 he accused China of, quote, becoming very hostile with restrictions on rare-earth minerals,
00:01:26.340 which are a key resource for tech and defense industries.
00:01:29.800 Almost an hour after markets closed, the president announced that the United States
00:01:33.540 would impose an extra 100% tariff on China and add export controls on critical software.
00:01:40.260 He wanted it, you know.
00:01:41.360 It's been a long time.
00:01:42.440 He's been fighting a long time.
00:01:43.840 He's been fighting hard.
00:01:44.820 He wanted it.
00:01:45.400 It's a great deal for Israel, but it's a great deal for everybody, for Arabs, for Muslims,
00:01:51.720 for everybody, for the world.
00:01:54.140 And as you know, on Monday, the hostages come back.
00:01:57.360 They're getting them now.
00:01:58.520 I mean, they're getting them now.
00:01:59.540 They're in some pretty rough places under Earth.
00:02:04.280 They're in some pretty rough places where only a few people know where they are, in some cases.
00:02:09.160 So they're getting them.
00:02:11.200 And they're also getting the bodies, approximately 28 bodies.
00:02:16.560 And some of those bodies are being unearthed right now as we speak.
00:02:22.720 I mean, they're working on it right now as we speak.
00:02:24.800 It's a tragedy.
00:02:26.200 It's a tragedy.
00:02:27.060 No, he was very happy with it.
00:02:29.240 And I can tell you that I saw Israel dancing in the streets, but they were dancing in Qatar
00:02:34.240 and Saudi Arabia and UAE and many, many countries.
00:02:38.280 I saw Egypt.
00:02:39.720 They were dancing.
00:02:40.640 I'll be going to Israel.
00:02:42.700 I'll be speaking at the Knesset, I think, early on.
00:02:47.720 And then I'm also going to Egypt.
00:02:49.740 They were terrific.
00:02:50.880 But all of the countries were great.
00:02:52.660 Indonesia was great.
00:02:54.200 Jordan was great.
00:02:55.720 They were all great.
00:02:56.460 But everybody, everybody wants this deal to happen.
00:03:00.100 I think what's interesting about this shutdown, and as we get more used to these shutdowns,
00:03:04.460 is that there is somewhat of a celebration on the right.
00:03:07.540 Like, they're kind of all for the shutdown.
00:03:09.920 I mean, if you look at the tweet posted today about the impending slashing of the government,
00:03:16.400 there are celebration memes posted in response to that by right-wing influencers.
00:03:21.220 They want to see the government shut down.
00:03:23.540 They want to see people fired from their jobs.
00:03:25.440 Okay, but those are right-wing influencers.
00:03:28.320 You know what they've never had to do?
00:03:29.960 Run for office.
00:03:31.460 Right.
00:03:31.680 And this goes back to what Mark was saying a moment ago, that Marjorie Taylor Greene is
00:03:35.940 the canary in the coal mine.
00:03:37.200 She knows, whether it's Craven self-interest or not, she needs to run again.
00:03:41.120 Yeah.
00:03:41.280 Laura Loomer hasn't run on a treadmill.
00:03:44.060 She doesn't know.
00:03:45.500 I don't mean to be, I guess, that was sassy.
00:03:47.600 But, I mean, she has no idea.
00:03:48.980 That's good sassy.
00:03:49.300 Sorry.
00:03:49.860 None of these people have any idea what it means to represent the American people who
00:03:54.780 are simply looking for health care, for a good education, for a good job.
00:03:58.400 So when you say the far right's happy, is it far right lawmakers or is it the far right
00:04:03.080 media sphere?
00:04:04.120 I think it's both.
00:04:04.980 I mean, I think that kind of fused together.
00:04:06.440 I think there are a lot of people that are feeding into this.
00:04:08.680 And I also think, too, Stephanie, you saw, I think, particularly during COVID, where people
00:04:14.000 were being completely misinformed about vaccines and still getting the virus and saying they
00:04:19.280 wouldn't have got the vaccines because, you know, for whatever reason, what a conspiracy
00:04:23.860 theory they had been fed.
00:04:24.880 But I'm, I, even though it's in, against their self-interest, I'm not convinced that
00:04:29.980 a lot of people are not still celebrating this.
00:04:32.480 I mean, I think it's, I think if you look at Breitbart, too, and you look at the Gateway
00:04:35.940 Pundit and all these far right websites or Benny Johnson's podcast, I think there's a
00:04:41.500 totally different inspiring people.
00:04:43.520 But is that the case or is that the fringe?
00:04:44.780 Because even when you think about it.
00:04:46.240 With breaking news from Donald Trump's relentless retribution campaign, MSNBC reports that criminal
00:04:52.220 charges against former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton could come as soon as next
00:04:57.880 week.
00:04:58.800 Sources tell MSNBC a grand jury in Maryland has been hearing evidence for several weeks
00:05:05.020 now.
00:05:05.400 But the pace of the case has recently sped up.
00:05:08.880 Back in August, FBI agents searched Bolton's house and D.C. office as part of a classified
00:05:14.420 records investigation.
00:05:16.520 Look at the pattern here, folks.
00:05:17.960 Look at what we've seen from Trump's Justice Department just this week.
00:05:23.160 Trump critic James Comey was arraigned.
00:05:25.700 Trump critic Letitia James was indicted.
00:05:28.540 And now Trump critic John Bolton could be facing similar punishment.
00:05:33.300 Bolton even warned once that Trump's return to power would be a, quote, retribution presidency.
00:05:39.520 Also breaking tonight in lower Manhattan, New Yorkers protested the charges against A.G.
00:05:44.980 James, as MSNBC's Jonathan LaMere warns in The Atlantic, quote, Trump's threats that are
00:05:51.940 no longer bluster.
00:05:53.880 The guardrails of his first term are gone.
00:05:56.960 He is instead surrounded by enablers.
00:05:59.380 The federal government is taking legal action against those whom Trump wants punished.
00:06:05.000 Retribution is here.
00:06:06.960 But I've been calling what's going on a self-coup, an attempt to destroy the other branches of
00:06:12.100 government, to destroy the Congress, to destroy the judiciary.
00:06:15.860 And each of these prosecutions that we're talking about has an element of destroying democracy.
00:06:20.960 So think about the significance, the symbol of going after a state attorney general.
00:06:26.580 What it's about is destroying the independence of the law.
00:06:29.600 What Attorney General James did was enforce the law.
00:06:32.620 Trump is trying to destroy the law.
00:06:34.200 How do you do that?
00:06:35.000 You go after a law enforcement official.
00:06:37.440 Take Comey.
00:06:38.520 After Nixon, there was an independence of the FBI that was established.
00:06:42.720 Norms were established.
00:06:43.960 Policies were changed.
00:06:45.280 Trump wants to destroy all of that.
00:06:46.800 Part of the way that you do it is you go after a symbol of the independent FBI.
00:06:51.380 And Comey certainly was that.
00:06:53.220 And even if you think of the Bolton accusations in that prosecution, it's about destroying the
00:06:58.600 independence of the intelligence and foreign policy apparatus of the United States.
00:07:03.220 This is nothing less than a self-coup.
00:07:05.880 And it isn't something that's just being attempted.
00:07:07.840 It is in progress.
00:07:09.040 And the alarm bells should be going on.
00:07:11.180 Yeah, well, time is of the essence.
00:07:13.060 We're firmly into the second day of that 72-hour deadline that ends on midday Israel time or 5 a.m.
00:07:21.580 Eastern.
00:07:22.160 And here's where we stand right now.
00:07:23.600 According to sources, which we spoke to, they tell CNN that it will likely happen overnight Sunday into Monday.
00:07:29.380 That's for the 48 hostages to be released, 20 of whom we believe are alive, and the other 28 deceased.
00:07:36.460 Now, locating the deceased and the remains of the deceased is a logistical challenge.
00:07:41.280 We know that the international community of the Red Cross is going to be assisting and facilitating locating the remains.
00:07:48.700 But also echoed by Benjamin Netanyahu saying that they're probably not going to be able to locate all the deceased within that 72-hour window.
00:07:58.120 It is not a deal breaker, however.
00:08:00.740 But the 20-point plan, phase one, is firmly gaining momentum.
00:08:05.980 And it seems that both sides have now agreed to this framework and are willing to see it through, Victor.
00:08:12.760 At the end of the day, this is not a shutdown.
00:08:14.780 It's an engineered hostage crisis.
00:08:16.580 They had the leaked memo saying that federal workers are not necessarily entitled to back pay when this is done.
00:08:23.340 They're already trying to find a way, because they have to give tax breaks to billionaires who don't need them,
00:08:28.600 to find ways to not pay the federal workers who are still showing up every day when this whole thing is over.
00:08:33.480 Why working people still fall for this party that worships golden toilets but hates the people that clean them?
00:08:38.900 At what point do they feel like those have fully kicked in to the economy?
00:08:43.520 Not yet.
00:08:44.140 We are still very early in the game that big, big companies are either eating the costs,
00:08:49.640 or if they're big importers, they were able to buy tons of supplies, buy products in the beginning of the year.
00:08:54.820 But as this year is going on, so many small and medium-sized companies are struggling.
00:09:00.720 We're seeing bankruptcies go up.
00:09:02.520 And you're going to see prices start to go up and up as we head into the year.
00:09:06.060 And when the likes of Scott Besson says, well, the companies can choose to eat the cost,
00:09:09.700 even if they're eating the cost, you know what they're not doing?
00:09:12.460 Giving raises, they're not expanding, they're not hiring anyone, which has our economy in this precarious place.
00:09:18.400 But it's funny, because today Trump accused China of holding the globe captive with these resources that they have.
00:09:26.440 But is that not the same thing Trump is doing, holding the world captive with his tariffs?
00:09:31.520 It's not me to decide, who to choose Nobel Prize.
00:09:35.720 First of all, I think, and hardly anyone from you from your viewers and listeners will be able to say, hardly.
00:09:45.740 I'll tell you what I mean.
00:09:48.040 Well, volatility.
00:09:51.820 the new berger's premio мира людям которые для мира ничего не сделали и на мой взгляд этими
00:09:58.320 решениями они несли они нанесли огромный ущерб авторитету этой премии ну человек пришел хороший
00:10:05.620 плохой ему сразу там через месяц через два бум за что да вообще ничего не сделал ну как раз так
00:10:12.920 работают это же заслуги за какие-то наши но и поэтому авторитет мне кажется он значительной
00:10:22.680 степени утрачен но бог с ним не мне судить но но достоин ли не достоин действующий президент
00:10:34.100 сша новинской премии я не знаю но он реально много делает для того чтобы для того чтобы разрешить
00:10:42.860 такие сложные десятилетиями длящиеся годами а то и действительно длящиеся кризис
00:10:51.680 it's saturday saturday 11 october year of alert 2025 um we curated the cold open could have been
00:11:03.320 30 minutes of straight news on other on other topics just as major i mean the news cycle you know we say
00:11:11.240 that apocryphal saying there are decades in which nothing happens in the weeks in which decades
00:11:17.960 happen with president trump's second term it's week after week after week it kind of builds in
00:11:23.620 crescendo remember the president has openly said now that he is planning on heading to israel to greet
00:11:30.440 the hostages uh there's also talk he's going to go to egypt and maybe assign some sort of pact on the
00:11:37.200 end of the uh of the hamas war um and then charlie kirk gets the medal of freedom on his birthday on
00:11:45.480 tuesday and president trump is committed to be there so you do the math um we'll be covering all
00:11:50.920 of it wall to wall whenever it kind of shakes out at the um at the white house with all that's
00:11:58.180 happening putting down a uh a revolt in the streets by violent and narcissistic and dangerous left
00:12:07.160 that is trying to make sure that we cannot unwind the invasion of our country by the deep state and
00:12:14.320 the biden and the radical democrats why so they get illegal aliens in here because they can't win
00:12:18.960 they cannot win elections without them that's where everything they do revolves around illegal aliens
00:12:23.780 whether it's shutting down the governments gun decking the census fighting us on redistricting
00:12:28.760 having antifa in portland and the mayor and these uh absolutely crazed progressives who they're
00:12:35.680 starting to arrest in chicago the reason that we have troops in memphis troops in chicago troops in
00:12:41.280 portland oregon with everything's going on in this amazing peace deal that president trump is uh is
00:12:48.740 working on to pull off in the next 48 to 72 hours looks like everything's in place as captain finnell
00:12:55.540 has often told us you got to keep your eye on the main thing and what is the main thing as we have
00:13:01.500 argued here for years and years and years and i'm proud to be the leader of the anti-ccp movement
00:13:06.940 in the united states and remember as leader of the anti-ccp movement we have advocated from the
00:13:12.660 beginning decoupling you cannot trust these people it's the most evil dictatorship in the modern world
00:13:18.860 and i'm including the nazis the soviets uh imperial japan the fascists all of it throw in pol pot
00:13:26.360 throw in north korea this is a group that's killed hundreds of may bragged about it killed hundreds of
00:13:33.200 millions of lao baxing of its own people well folks uh in the last 24 48 hours the president
00:13:40.780 of the united states has put us on notice we're at full out economic war with the chinese communist
00:13:46.120 party full-on economic war why because in trying to work with them and trying to accommodate them
00:13:53.580 they double-crossed the president of the united states of america in the industrial west
00:13:59.080 and as you can tell with netanyahu when he sent a missile into qatar to kill the hamas
00:14:06.360 negotiating team to make sure there would never be peace you got to go pretty far in the woods
00:14:11.620 to really hit president trump's tripwire i can tell you that there's some bluster at the beginning
00:14:16.860 in negotiating tactics and talk hot talk but you got to go pretty far to hit his tripwire but when you
00:14:22.700 hit his tripwire ask baby netanyahu had that turned out for him well we've got two experts uh brian
00:14:29.960 costello our venture capitalist and economic warfare expert and captain finnell who knows the ccp better
00:14:35.620 anybody's dedicated his life to understanding the strategic direction of the chinese communist party
00:14:41.580 they're coming up next it's uh warfare unrestricted warfare saturday in the war room short break
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00:16:51.080 free and be part of the movement you know the daily uh telegraph is doing a big story in this
00:16:58.620 peace deal rob crilly and the team over there i've got a quote in this that that trump has united the
00:17:06.960 arabs probably better than t.e lawrence i gave this national conservative conference speech i don't
00:17:15.120 know it's about a month ago now five weeks ago and i shocked the audience because it's a big neocon
00:17:20.360 audience although it tries to purport itself to be populist national super neocon um good folks but
00:17:27.120 neocons and i said um that scene in lawrence of arabia in the movie you've seen it or in the seven
00:17:34.300 pillars of wisdom where it's written his memoir of the arab revolt he goes into british intelligence
00:17:39.740 they're trying to transfer him to the arab bureau and the general in charge just goes he says i don't
00:17:45.380 know why we're doing all this i don't know why we're succumbing you to the arabs he said the middle
00:17:50.680 east is a sideshow to the main thing which is the western front and he said the arab revolt is a sideshow
00:17:58.600 to a sideshow and what i said is that the middle east today is a sideshow to the main the main thing
00:18:06.320 although it does prop it up it's got economic relationships to have to be taken care of
00:18:09.740 but it's a sideshow in the israel gaza war is a sideshow to a sideshow not that's not important
00:18:16.200 not that's not bloody not that we have to we have to kind of figure it out but we're being sucked in
00:18:21.920 every day particularly the mind share of the country the media and particularly the white house
00:18:26.640 the president of the united states national security apparatus and it's just not that big a deal and
00:18:32.440 people were shocked well president trump is uh is a long way in the last i don't know week ever since
00:18:40.660 netanyahu showed he was uncontrollable and trying to drag us into a deeper war by going after cutter and
00:18:46.260 hey don't get me wrong i'm the biggest advocate to cutters the muslim brotherhood
00:18:50.800 and there's a lot of guys in cutter that deserve to go to the dress reward okay it's the rail hit of
00:18:57.640 the muslim brotherhood full stop and i'll talk about this proposed base uh which we're not going
00:19:04.300 to allow pete hex and these guys to do it no we're not going to go to the christian redoubt of idaho and
00:19:10.320 put a qatari uh base and now they're walking back oh it's just for so don't they don't need a
00:19:15.140 facility you train what they need let them do the air rework over there we've got a huge air force
00:19:20.980 base do it there if not they got a ton of air rework facilities here to take care of those jets
00:19:26.820 with the 15 echoes or whatever that we're selling them and they can train the pilots we have plenty
00:19:31.420 of places to train the pilots hell we train the persians uh we've trained the saudis we train the
00:19:37.140 uae we train the israelis that's fine don't need a base and you certainly don't need a base
00:19:41.900 in the heart of the christian redoubt right up in idaho that is outrageous and there's something
00:19:51.840 going on here with the administration love the fact that cutters you know trying to play nice
00:19:56.580 all good you're going to take it get this deal they're going to be in israel with a major foothold
00:20:01.740 and writing big checks okay i got it i got it and this thing came to a head because netanyahu tried
00:20:09.060 to drag them in to take them out i got it but we got an article 5 guarantee on their defense and
00:20:14.760 we've got uh and now a air rework facility or pilot training in idaho are you kidding me it's outrageous
00:20:23.580 um captain finnell the main thing people should understand and if you watch this show you know
00:20:32.400 the seriousness that we take this i was the only civilian in the history of the country fully sanctioned
00:20:36.920 by the chinese comics party at one minute after high noon on the 21st on the 20th of january of
00:20:43.660 2021 when biden took office it was uh pompeo myself peter navarro right um
00:20:52.020 were immediately and um that's fine i got it but finnell you've told you over and over again you
00:21:01.640 hammer every day you must keep the main thing the main thing you must keep the main thing the main thing
00:21:06.080 and of all the epic massive events that took place this week this by a factor of 10 is the most
00:21:14.560 important because this is what happens when the globalists and the financiers of wall street and
00:21:20.140 the big tech guys and elon musk and the and the little ccp agent of influence in nvidia and all these
00:21:25.880 guys making all this money on wall street have led us down the primrose path to not decouple from
00:21:30.920 these savages these barbarians and now we're in it now we're in it and they double cross trump
00:21:36.280 so captain finnell give me the overall strategic and i'm gonna get brian castellas talk about the
00:21:41.760 economic but do you agree that what's happened in the last 24 to 48 hours is a pretty serious
00:21:47.360 shift in attitude sir steve uh first thanks for having me on yeah there's no question you said it
00:21:54.740 earlier we are in an economic war right now with the people's republic of china and uh the the tit-for-tat
00:22:02.040 actions that have been going on over the last 48 hours or you could even say since uh the the end of
00:22:07.900 september are all an indicator that xi and the chinese communist party have decided they've done
00:22:15.480 their calculations what they call their comprehensive national defense uh planning and their scientific
00:22:21.180 development they've gone through the numbers and they think that they can throw down with the
00:22:25.380 united states in the economic arena and so they've made these moves to uh tell australia you have to
00:22:31.500 buy our or we'll buy your or but we're only going to pay you in our currency rmb uh the yuan uh we're only
00:22:38.120 gonna you know we're gonna ban these uh rare earths to uh to the united states and all of this
00:22:43.180 which you will get into later but they're taking these very pointed and direct uh uh actions against
00:22:51.800 the united states economy to break us and xi has calculated that he can achieve a victory on this
00:22:58.200 and i think it's really important because you talked about wall street and the people that have
00:23:02.980 caused us to engage and to invest in the chinese market and the chinese economy over these last many
00:23:09.680 years but it's also the people that are in our foreign policy and national security establishment
00:23:14.920 in washington the people that preached engagement for the last 30 years that told us we must engage
00:23:21.040 with china and then they said don't worry about it there's no threat the threat's not real they're
00:23:26.480 never going to be close to us economically or militarily we don't have to worry we just keep
00:23:32.020 engaging with them it'll become more like us and now we're in this position where they've got a knife
00:23:36.920 to our throat both economically and increasingly militarily and uh we're in a tough position
00:23:43.500 right now and fortunately president trump is now responding appropriately to say hey i still have
00:23:50.900 tools i have economic escalation dominance in certain areas semiconductors and in financial services
00:23:58.360 that i can push back and not take this from xi and so unlike what happened in 2012 with barack
00:24:05.440 obama and the south china sea when china sees scarborough shoal and and then he built those
00:24:10.700 islands and we did nothing and we you know we kind of cowered and and looked the other way and and the
00:24:16.000 chinese communist party recognized there's nothing there what's the old saying from lenin you know
00:24:20.980 you put a put a bayonet in and if you don't feel anything you keep pushing well that's what happened
00:24:25.540 in 2012 they put the bayonet in in the south china sea and there was no resistance from the united
00:24:30.640 states of america well now our president is resisting i want to go yeah but i want to go to
00:24:37.420 something i want to go to their strategic doctrine we get castell in here a second one of the things
00:24:43.340 they have a tell and that tell if you go back and look at the war with india if you look at the certain
00:24:49.060 military engagements you even look at economic they have a they have one thing that they're always
00:24:54.860 searching for when they think an adversary is totally engaged in something else and their in
00:25:00.480 their mind is off the ball like in the cuban missile crisis when they think their opponent
00:25:06.360 is maniacally focused and completely caught up in another either geopolitical or economic event and
00:25:14.340 they can't have the mind share that's when they strike this is uh the the policy and particularly
00:25:22.280 the rare earths remember we're talking about the magnets and the heavy rare earths and people
00:25:26.940 should understand the playing footsie with lula is the reverse side of the coin here because
00:25:33.160 brazil's got the heavy rare earths of course he's a marxist and totally in business with the chinese
00:25:37.160 communist party and a horrible guy but everybody that was shocked last week about oh we're not
00:25:42.520 throwing bolsonaro over the side but there's a serious problem here i mean american industry can grind
00:25:48.980 to a halt in maybe three or four or five weeks because for years the the our bettors on wall
00:25:54.620 street and our bettors in silicon valley said we didn't need this type of heavy industrial uh you
00:26:00.120 know parts of the production process the environmentalist the climate change oh it's too dirty you can't
00:26:04.940 process it here there's a company in ohio that the ccp bought i think back in 2012 2013 bought and took
00:26:12.360 took the thing and took it all down and took it to china which is one of the big processing entities
00:26:17.640 she makes these moves when he thinks he's got the high ground he's got a distracted enemy is that
00:26:24.820 part of their doctrine sir there's no question that's part of their doctrine we've seen them do
00:26:30.380 that as you mentioned it in indian the war in 60 and with vietnam they've done it in the south china
00:26:36.480 sea in 2012 time frame 2015 time frame um we we see them do this but it's also part of they're on
00:26:44.600 their what they call their great uh their strategy of called the great rejuvenation of china so they're
00:26:49.700 on a timeline i've talked for the last two decades about this decade of 2020 to 2030 is the key decade
00:26:56.600 the decade of concern where they're going to make a decision on what to do to achieve their national
00:27:02.800 reunification and that means moving into not just take taiwan and other places geographically
00:27:08.880 but also to dominate the world in the economic arena and they've decided right now that hey
00:27:14.460 america's distracted they've got all these other things that you open the show with and therefore
00:27:19.500 they can't possibly deal with us in this economic trade war right exactly and uh it's really really
00:27:26.040 important hang on one second demonstrate to them that we're able to do it and trump came out we'll put
00:27:32.660 the tweet up this is also like we love we love us some bridge colby we kind of love what pete and
00:27:39.220 bridge colby are doing over there however this is our complaint about the new defense strategy
00:27:43.260 where they kind of walk back what we had done in the first term is is we're in a great power struggle
00:27:49.360 with the chinese communist party not the russians the chinese communist party my understanding this
00:27:54.920 bridging team trying to dial that back that they only want to be dominant in east asia and maybe the
00:27:59.440 western pacific that is just not the case that is not the case this is a global this is the long
00:28:04.860 twilight struggle that president kennedy warned about the bastion of marxism in the world the bastion
00:28:12.620 of evil the railhead of evil in the world and trust me they're all over the streets of america and in
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00:30:05.320 off do it today the phrase and i didn't hear about this phrase until just a few years ago china hawks yes
00:30:12.700 and and apparently that if you're a china hawk you get to wear that label with pride it's almost like
00:30:18.160 a badge of honor right it's a badge of shame there's no question it's a badge of shame there's no question
00:30:24.980 that although they want what's in the best interest of our country and we all want what's in the best
00:30:29.360 interest of our country destroying that pipeline right of the american dream is not patriotic
00:30:36.900 they they think they think they're doing the right thing for our country but it's not patriotic
00:30:42.060 not not even a little bit i think it's the wealthiest or second wealthiest guy in the world
00:30:48.300 having dinner with trump all the time glazing president trump uh that guy's a agent of influence
00:30:54.900 at minimum of the chinese communist party he talks about our country he's talking about china
00:30:58.720 he's talking about china that that was a week ago and hawks and he's talking about hawks you're
00:31:05.760 talking about you he's not talking just about jim finnell and steve bannon and brian costell and
00:31:09.040 other guys been warning about this and working on this and fighting this every day he's talking about
00:31:13.540 you that you you know you're you're bad that's a badge of shame because you're stopping the american
00:31:19.440 dream because you're trying to thwart the chinese communist party think about that for a second
00:31:23.900 think how twisted that is that's that's a psyop right there on a guy that we give every break in
00:31:30.300 the world too okay which has to stop he should be investigated immediately today because i'm a read
00:31:38.620 from a guy this ain't from jim finnell and this ain't from brian costello and this ain't from peter
00:31:43.380 navarro or frank gaffney or brian kennedy of all of us whack jobs over the committee on the present
00:31:48.700 danger china we set up years ago for just this moment this is from a guy called the commander
00:31:54.360 chief of the united states of america a guy that's gone out of his way for world peace to try to
00:32:01.420 work something out with china it's not trump's played smash mouth with them he's tried to work
00:32:07.280 he's tried to work with them and this is a group he negotiated for two years navarro and leinheiser
00:32:13.640 negotiated for two years into may of 2019 we had an entire deal which take care of the seven original
00:32:20.820 sins of the chinese communist party and integrate them fully into the world economy and after meeting
00:32:27.500 with putin having their first uh one belt one road big confab uh they turned around tore it up and spit
00:32:36.340 in our face and oh by the way declared a people's war in may of 2019 they've been at when people said
00:32:41.680 why are we going to economic war they've been at war with us they have been at war with us
00:32:46.120 for decades and decades and decades war unrestricted war which is modern warfare because what they say
00:32:55.300 coming out of the gulf war they wrote the book they said hey foreign devils have amazing equipment
00:33:00.320 and foreign devils know how to fight on a kinetic battlefield so we must beat foreign devils something
00:33:05.240 else economic warfare psychological warfare political warfare and the people that warned against it
00:33:14.500 and said here's what they're doing and are proud to wear the label china hawks wealthiest guy in the
00:33:20.000 world i just heard this phrase you know that it's not a badger of art it's a badger saying screw you
00:33:24.640 dude you should be in a prison pardon the f-bomb on a saturday morning for the kids
00:33:31.540 it's outrageous this guy's in the white house he's done it all those tech bros
00:33:38.420 all of them to a person have sold you out sold this country out sold it out full stop
00:33:46.460 and president trump and i quote it has been it has just been learned that china has taken an
00:33:54.080 extraordinarily aggressive position on trade and spent and sending an extremely hostile letter to
00:33:58.260 the world stating that they were going to effective one november 2025 impose large-scale
00:34:03.720 export controls on virtually every product they make and some not even made by them etc etc etc etc
00:34:09.920 etc brian costello uh as we've been talking about birch gold for four years why because we've been
00:34:16.440 talking about the dollars of prime reserve currency and what was happening and part of what just happened
00:34:20.500 is they're telling uh you know india and other trading part in australia we're only we're not do you
00:34:25.540 can't convert into dollars we're not doing this in dollars we're going to do it in ours and you're
00:34:29.200 going to take the currency risk because they're in a massive effort for de-dollarization trying to
00:34:33.520 destroy the u.s dollar you've been on this show i don't know for four years warning about this day
00:34:39.500 coming explain to us your warning and explain to us what's happened and become evident to the
00:34:45.220 president united states and the secretary of treasury in the last 48 hours sir you know steve it's it's
00:34:51.500 funny most of the people that wear that uh china hawk badge they they believe a couple things different
00:34:57.160 they don't believe uh you know being an american patriot runs through beijing uh that you have to
00:35:02.560 support that and i most of the people i know that wear that china hawk badge have actually served the
00:35:08.160 country they've seen what war does they've had friends who've died and been injured and they're
00:35:14.500 actually anti-war they're they're very peace so the reason uh for being china hawks is they see the
00:35:21.380 obvious right they're china realists they see uh the military being built up and now you know
00:35:26.900 she might have done us a favor uh this week by reneging on what sounds like some of his agreements
00:35:32.880 with she to just uh with with president trump to just have a meeting dial things back and look at
00:35:38.240 the relationships you know i remind people that when she took office back in 2013 one of the first
00:35:46.540 things he did was in 2015 was a program called made made in china 2025 and basically all the things
00:35:54.860 he's doing now were to end you know end their dependencies on people in the world and build
00:36:00.820 everything domestically so that they could control supply chains guess what year we're in steve
00:36:05.340 2025 yeah so it should be obvious like let me let me
00:36:12.320 well let me just yeah they want to and by the way in 2019 they came over the made in 20
00:36:19.060 china 2025 in 15 it has a 10-year plan um as i've said on the show before this is how strategically
00:36:27.940 they think i'm gonna give you the top five uh artificial intelligence and artificial this is
00:36:33.380 industries that they will dominate by 2025 okay and they're going to decouple from the west they
00:36:38.720 made this decision in 2019 when they tore up the trade deal that they're going to start to decouple
00:36:43.740 technology they have to have their own champions they have to have their own you know they have to have
00:36:48.140 tick tock uh they have to have the best chips they have to have uh was it uh the the the top uh
00:36:54.260 artificial intelligence company deep was a deep mind um but let me go to the top five the top five
00:37:00.080 and they came up with this over a decade ago folks just some random just some random industries i'm
00:37:05.780 gonna start at the top artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence robotics and
00:37:10.980 regenerative robotics a quantum computing uh advanced chip design and just to top it off
00:37:17.380 biotechnology crisper all of that that's the top five the convergence of those five their top five
00:37:24.920 get you to the singularity they understand totally what they're doing this is when she and putin
00:37:29.800 are having the thing at the shanghai and they're walking down and they're having a sidebar and chatting
00:37:34.760 they're talking about living to 125 years old they're so focused on this and they're doing stuff
00:37:40.000 inside of russia and inside of china you have no earthy idea what they're doing their labs
00:37:45.040 but what they've brazenly done now is challenge president trump on this income they're trying to
00:37:51.180 tell people in the world you're going to decouple from the united states of america we're going to
00:37:55.820 run a reverse trump thinks he's such a big shot peter navarro thinks he's such a big shot bannon and
00:38:00.160 these guys are a war room these china hawks they're they're running their mouths we're going to and we're
00:38:04.740 going to use we're going to use rare earths they're going to use the magnets they're going to use
00:38:10.220 the most critical part of the rare earths which president trump and bessen had an agreement with
00:38:14.180 and they said you know upon further review yeah yeah we got to think that i don't think it's going
00:38:18.440 to work this is where they're trying to grab total control they're trying to use a lever what we call
00:38:25.320 leverageable moment a leverageable moment why the united states is distracted in ukraine and gaza and
00:38:31.240 the streets of uh the streets of north america and trust me they are in back of to a large extent
00:38:38.600 what's happening in the streets of america on the economic side and in having being as bold as
00:38:44.220 they are and trump hit them with a hundred percent tariff right so it's going to be this is going to
00:38:49.080 be hardball 100 percent tariff on on their situation we know they were hurting but i think she is saying
00:38:54.340 hey i can take the pain finnell what did they say they said they'll eat they'll eat grass for a year
00:38:59.800 you know they don't care about lao baxing lao baxing's got a tough life hey this is the way it is man
00:39:04.440 they killed hundreds of millions of lao baxing before they got no problem mal used to brag he
00:39:10.060 says hey i don't know what the west is talking about this the you know nuclear threat and and
00:39:13.700 the terror of nuclear weapons he said hey if we get hit with a couple of nuclear weapons we'll lose a
00:39:18.720 couple hundred million people big deal we'll recreate that in a decade it's no big deal they
00:39:23.340 could care less if their people get some hardship that the total control particularly with the
00:39:28.320 surveillance state they have now so brian walk us through how this has evolved over time and what
00:39:33.440 your warning's been you know steve it's worse than that right they're stockpiling food uh you know
00:39:39.500 they're ending the dependency you know they're not buying soybeans everything from the u.s so
00:39:44.040 so what you basic all you have to you know all you have to do is read what they're doing in china
00:39:50.160 right so there's something that's really bad happening here too steve that you know they're
00:39:55.460 preparing for something much grander right so you know just in the last couple weeks we've had this
00:40:00.620 new ministry of foreign commerce where they've now putting ceasing control over you know deciding
00:40:07.300 who gets these rare earths right so it's not just the u.s it's japan taiwan you know they have their
00:40:13.140 guy in south korea now where a lot of the stuff we make is manufactured it requires refinement of
00:40:19.360 these critical mineral and rare earths and the the chemical processes to do that they're putting
00:40:24.020 complete control on that but they're now you know going after our companies they just launched an
00:40:29.640 investigation into qualcomm the other day they launched an investigation into nvidia before
00:40:34.840 they're actually now searching ships for the nvidia gear is out out in the media so they've told
00:40:41.020 other people don't buy anything from nvidia they're actually sure searching ships so you see why jensen's
00:40:46.520 focused on this right he's not able to sell you know through other countries and put equipment into
00:40:51.440 there anymore but a lot of his equipment in these data centers being built require the refinement
00:40:55.980 process of these critical minerals and rare earths and the magnets and the things that actually
00:41:00.300 go into transformers for power so you've seen all this stuff happen you're also seeing propaganda
00:41:07.000 left and right right as we bomb boats coming from venezuela carrying drugs they're reporting to their
00:41:13.020 people that they're doing this for oil right so you just see the game when you've watched what
00:41:18.300 they've done for a long time you know it's like when the tiktok agreement came out it's a signed
00:41:22.820 agreement isn't even an agreement with the chinese communist party like until it's actually done
00:41:27.340 you know there's no rest legal reciprocity so you know i'm not surprised by this at all uh not
00:41:34.720 surprised by there's there's no if you if if you sign a contract you gotta understand something with
00:41:39.560 the chinese if you sign a contract they have a phrase called circumstances changed the contract's just
00:41:45.460 basis for future negotiation this is why uh you know adelson and uh and uh uh the crowd in vegas
00:41:55.400 um has a uh it has these casinos in where the cash come from because they don't make money in vegas
00:42:02.560 the uh the cash comes from macau the the because the chinese now there's gamblers you got money
00:42:09.040 laundry go through this ridiculous if you look at the documents these are publicly traded companies look at
00:42:13.460 the documents they really have no agreement the chinese communist party they're just kind of like
00:42:17.340 uh well they run it for a while they manage it and they make some money but it's very ill-defined and
00:42:21.920 we can pull it at any time this is what they've said right now president trump was working towards a deal
00:42:26.920 remember he was going to visit china he's talking about visiting china as a sidebar to this uh meeting
00:42:33.560 he's going to this big economic menu where he's going to go to in fact it's later this week i think
00:42:37.760 it's later this week early the following week where he's going to go to japan for a couple of days
00:42:42.160 he's talking about he was talking about maybe going to china and the and the ccp pulled this
00:42:46.880 she and the chinese communist party high command think that we're completely and totally occupied
00:42:53.080 right we're completely and totally occupied uh with the middle east the sideshow in the middle east
00:42:59.020 with the with the war in ukraine not being settled uh with problems on the streets and they're very
00:43:04.980 focused what's happening on the streets of new york our streets of america in this insurrection
00:43:10.320 that's going on with people that try to flood our country with illegal aliens they are closely
00:43:15.860 watching new york city and trust me they're involved in the background in new york city what's happening
00:43:20.800 there with the marxist jihadist taking over these guys they've infiltrated everywhere they've infiltrated
00:43:27.640 the universities they've infiltrated capitol hill they've infiltrated all the big companies they've
00:43:33.220 infiltrated the media they are everywhere as we have warned day in and day out and now they're bold enough
00:43:39.160 to be up in president trump's grill and say hey tough guy we're going to bring the american economy
00:43:45.640 to a grinding halt and president trump hit him back with a blunt force instrument 100 tariff
00:43:51.300 pretty big deal okay short commercial break we're in return we got castello and captain finnell
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00:45:17.980 captain finnell and people should know that behind the scenes captain finnell is a huge organizer and
00:45:27.080 kind of the leader of the the people the china hawks the one that nvidia says uh where is a do you wear
00:45:33.160 china hawk i mean you gave up your career in the navy to warn the country about this happening which all
00:45:40.160 your warnings turned out to be right uh what do you think about the nvidia guy am i wrong to see it is
00:45:45.380 he's at minimum an agent of influence i think he's much deeper than that right i think he's a total ccp
00:45:51.560 agent but when he tells you captain finnell that china hawk is a badge of shame your thoughts
00:45:58.360 well that's a classic uh tactic of the communist party they try to divide and conquer and they label
00:46:06.220 people and they use the labels to marginalize people and that's exactly what's happened over the last 35
00:46:11.680 years when you're labeled a china hawk you get painted with that indelible paint uh then you are
00:46:17.240 marginalized and pushed out of the polite society by the elite circles in dc so that's why he's saying
00:46:23.860 that he's trying to marginalize people and make them seem foolish and untrustworthy so i don't like
00:46:29.980 the labels i don't use the labels the fact of the matter is the chinese communist party as you said
00:46:35.000 declared people's war against us openly in 2019 and they have been at war with us since 1949 and they
00:46:42.620 want to destroy capitalism they are hardcore marxist leninist communists and they despise
00:46:48.780 our system of government they despise the way we do things and they want to take us down
00:46:54.040 and they have a long-term strategic plan they would prefer not to use military force they're now
00:46:59.580 openly using the economic uh levers of power uh to try to you know take us on right now they've
00:47:07.020 they've rolled the dice and think that they can take us and we need to stand up and fight back
00:47:12.040 i was very encouraged to see the fcc chairman brendan carr's announcement uh in the last 24 hours
00:47:18.920 announcing operation clean carts where he's uh recommending or not recommending he's saying hey
00:47:23.920 everything that's on uh these online e-commerce platforms in america that sell chinese products
00:47:30.700 from huawei and zte and other things like that have to come off and so what i would recommend to the
00:47:36.600 american people is uh you know we can ask our government to do a lot of things and president
00:47:41.560 trump is doing it thankfully but the american people can do something when you go into a store and
00:47:46.860 you buy something and you pull it off the rack i was in a store this weekend i saw a shirt i wanted
00:47:51.540 it was you know something nice uh being sold as supporting you know the uh the ecology and all
00:47:58.280 that and then i looked at and i asked the person well where is this made they said it was a spanish
00:48:02.640 company and then i said oh that's good then they said where's it made oh it's made in china i gave it
00:48:07.360 back to him said i'm not buying it stop buying things from china we stop buying things from china
00:48:12.860 we will bring down the chinese communist party so that's something that every american patriot can do
00:48:18.400 that's listening right now and tell your friends and family to do it i was surprised i have family
00:48:22.920 members that buy stuff on timu and i had to tell them you know what you're doing you're providing
00:48:28.040 the money and the wherewithal for the chinese communist party to destroy us whether it's buying
00:48:33.720 missiles or doing what they're doing right now in the economic arena so we need this we need to be
00:48:38.980 serious about this go ahead president president trump went up the escalatory ladder pretty quickly
00:48:46.380 100 tariff everything my understanding is a lot more coming next week uh besant navarro the president
00:48:54.700 uh on the economic warfare side they're basically going to say you guys think you're tough guys here's
00:49:01.520 what you're going to have to deal with and we have many tools if we have the if we have the guts to use
00:49:07.160 them we have many tools but in going up the escalatory ladder they're just not going to sit
00:49:12.740 there they've thought this thing through four and five moves ahead so what do you anticipate
00:49:17.120 the next couple weeks are going to look like well we got a little bit of a signal of that today on the
00:49:23.600 people's armed police uh twitter feed they showed a picture of the pla soldiers marching with the big
00:49:29.200 chinese flag and the recommendation was let's go kinetic so while we're watching the economic arena and
00:49:35.580 that's what we're talking about on today's show let's not forget that china has some other desires
00:49:41.080 and they could use the military lever uh to invade taiwan i don't see an invasion in the next 24 hours but
00:49:47.400 the or 48 hours but the point is they may take and use a military maneuver maybe in the south china
00:49:54.300 sea against our ally in the philippines or some other place so we need to be watching across the scope
00:50:00.300 and breadth of uh of national power the comprehensive national power that they call it or we call it
00:50:06.120 whole of government and as you said they're planning three or four or five moves ahead and we should be
00:50:11.140 anticipating those things and and not being caught off guard and that means our military forces out in
00:50:16.960 the far east and back in conus have to be up on alert to watch and be prepared for some kind of action
00:50:23.020 from the chinese to maybe even in the south the caribbean with our operations are in and around
00:50:29.160 venezuela against the drug cartels so we have to be on alert this is like when i came into the u.s
00:50:35.620 navy in 1986 against the soviet union we were a nation that was on guard against the predations
00:50:42.580 of the of the soviet union and the communist party that was running uh russia now we have the
00:50:49.580 communist party that's running china they have the same strategic objective to destroy us it sounds
00:50:55.500 over the top and and the nvidia ceo can say we're we're china hawks but that is a reality that's their
00:51:01.800 words that's their actions and we're seeing it come to fruition despite what all the threat
00:51:07.240 deflators and the engagers told us for the last 25 30 years remember they're egging on to saying let's go
00:51:14.780 kinetic don't put that past that they think just like in um the cuban missile crisis and the indian
00:51:21.240 what they did in india they thrive off a distracted enemy they consider us an enemy they they don't
00:51:29.960 consider us a pure rival all that crap you hear and you watch msnbc you watch cnn all these guys from
00:51:35.780 the think tanks thinking great thoughts just like the great thoughts they thought in the ukraine war to
00:51:40.960 drive that just like the great thoughts they thought in israel in the middle east all the great
00:51:44.980 thinkers all the great thoughts oh you know they're going to think great thoughts about china the ccp is
00:51:50.040 out to destroy us full stop and they don't care what they have to do and they don't care how many
00:51:54.780 lao baijin they don't care how many chinese citizens they kill in the in the interim and trust
00:52:00.260 me they are looking at taiwan big time captain finnell you don't do social media i know you put stuff up
00:52:06.060 on american greatness as soon as you get something we push it out look forward to having you back on
00:52:09.880 next week thank you for taking time on your saturday to join us thank you steve captain uh
00:52:16.920 captain jim finnell by the way because the inclement weather and planning the event we're going to cover
00:52:22.080 for marine corps 250 not going to be today we're going to do a full coverage wall to wall next
00:52:28.080 saturday the 18th i think we're gonna start at 10 o'clock in the morning uh with the war room and just
00:52:34.040 bring it all to you at camp pendleton the um amazing base out on the uh on the west coast
00:52:41.400 in california just north of san diego where the fleet is 32nd street okay we're gonna take a short
00:52:48.820 break up brian costello with us we're gonna go through a little deeper dive in the economics plus
00:52:53.700 got to talk about idaho got to talk about uh qatar really a qatar an air base they're gonna have a
00:53:01.420 military base in the united states of america on the sacred soul of this nation this nation's soil
00:53:08.000 is sacred sacred ground no qataris next
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