Bannon's War Room - November 22, 2025


Episode 4947: Redistricting And What's To Come In 2028; 28 Point Plan Of Failure


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In this episode of War Room, we discuss the Supreme Court ruling in the case of Scott Walker v. Scott Walker, the impact of that ruling, and how it could have a major impact on the upcoming election in the blue state of Florida.

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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
00:00:10.820 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
00:00:17.420 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
00:00:21.180 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
00:00:24.760 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
00:00:32.580 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:00:40.520 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:00:47.660 okay let me just put a pin and by the way it is uh saturday 22 november year of early 2025
00:00:56.900 alex degrasse is with us dave bratz with us going to be joined uh by more folks shortly but i want
00:01:05.040 to get to degrasse degrasse i'm going to put a pin and leave aside the supreme court ruling on
00:01:10.880 louisiana i want to go to yeah the republican states we haven't talked about kansas nebraska
00:01:15.700 indiana florida okay i got one out of kansas one out of nebraska one more out of indiana and five
00:01:24.020 more so i got eight if we get our job done correct now the problem is outside of florida ronda
00:01:30.100 sanchez and the crew kansas nebraska and indiana ain't getting done correct no that's not true so
00:01:36.720 indiana is two that's what we're pushing for and the indiana house is still planning to come in for a
00:01:42.360 special session in december to vote on a new map they're going to do their job that's important
00:01:46.200 steve the question is obviously will the indiana senate show up and vote no and betray to the eight
00:01:51.580 that gets that gets us to the 8-1 map not the 9-0 map correct well it's up for discussion but we're
00:01:58.160 pushing 9-0 we're pushing obviously 9-0 okay we take one we take one kansas they're still taking it up
00:02:05.900 in regular session the question there is whether there's enough republicans will vote to override
00:02:11.460 the governor's veto nebraska does look challenging that one i'll say and governor de santis continues
00:02:17.800 to publicly champion redistricting as well as his team and the house's redistricting committee will
00:02:22.600 start meeting in december that's important florida does not have to pass a new map until spring of
00:02:28.280 2026 because of the late primary so you could have a perfect storm with if if the supreme court rules
00:02:34.580 with us on in on louisiana florida could in theory even push further um so that's obviously huge and
00:02:41.520 so 10 is on the table but it's tough you know it's looking more like eight but we'll we'll have to see
00:02:47.900 anything less is unacceptable obviously hang on so i got i got eight well i i think nebraska's out so
00:02:57.120 seven so when i add them up it's 12 14 it's 16 gross number 16 to 18 gross and i got five already
00:03:06.440 in california unless we stop it that gets you over the that gets you over the 11 if virginia doesn't
00:03:11.660 happen in maryland my point is we're right on the bubble of the 10 you agree with me we need a net 10
00:03:17.560 minimum out of this sir yeah for sure for sure yeah well is it isn't the problem here the republican
00:03:26.160 establishment is not working on this at all they they would rather quite frankly they want this they
00:03:32.080 want the storm of trump to pass and they see one way to have it pass is to lose the house there's
00:03:39.060 worse things to happen the republican party than losing the house they lose it all the time in fact
00:03:42.980 before trump got here it looks like they were going to permanently lose it and then you get trump
00:03:47.440 impeached and he killed the whole trump movement and then you know they reset in 28 so what does this
00:03:53.540 audience have to do to make sure that we're on point because we need more net 10 is the minimum we
00:03:59.480 it looks like possible you could get net 14 or 15 if it doesn't go our way in in california so how do
00:04:06.680 we do that we need to maniacally focus on the state legislators steve and people especially in
00:04:14.160 indiana i mean that's a huge uh focal point and you've got guys out there saying crazy things in
00:04:19.260 the state senate it's totally unacceptable to have republicans that sort of operate like that right
00:04:24.660 this is not a happy talk um whatever right they are jamming us on every front and have been for
00:04:31.400 decades okay and you look at new england you look at obviously new york and california we talked about
00:04:37.720 on the show the california map as it was previously drawn with those stupid citizens you know by
00:04:43.940 clinical bipartisan appropriation whatever thing was even more gerrymandered two years ago than the
00:04:50.800 updated texas map okay you know what i mean i mean let's just be honest here and now you're looking at
00:04:56.960 the most gerrymandered map in the history of the country okay with the current california map that
00:05:01.180 people just voted on so they're not playing games it has nothing to do about what we or anyone else
00:05:07.240 try to do in texas or anything else these guys have been pushing the envelope for decades and
00:05:13.760 obviously they will stop at nothing to stop president trump and of course i think there's
00:05:17.140 some people with an interest in seeing the people in california alex the people in california are saying
00:05:23.240 people around newsom they're saying the only mistake they made was not going 52-0 to be like
00:05:28.980 new england they want to take a maximalist they said hey we don't care 46 or 44 of people in the
00:05:35.520 state vote republican it's just smash mouth we they won by 30 points they feel they left some on the
00:05:42.020 table they think 48 to 4 is not good enough they want they should have got there and they're thinking
00:05:47.620 they should have gone 52-0 they don't care this is what i'm saying in texas it shouldn't be five we
00:05:53.600 should go back and refile for eight we're not being aggressive enough and uh and the republican
00:05:59.200 establishment is just fighting the grassroots on this and quite frankly president trump has already
00:06:03.960 sent his political director blair out there he sent the vice president out there he's talked about
00:06:08.580 it ad nauseum you you went out there senator banks is all in back of this senator banks is out there you
00:06:13.760 guys had this had this conference which was all day on a saturday had 500 people and these are the tip
00:06:19.420 of the spear of the grassroots movement and the establishment the pence the judas pence and other
00:06:24.820 establishment figures don't care do they no i mean indiana is really a focal point in general just
00:06:31.580 with the inner fight with mago with pence with just all these guys that are disaster steam i mean really
00:06:37.140 for me it was eye-opening because look i'm from new york we're fighting for every inch you know that's
00:06:41.680 where i've cut my teeth in magaland but you know we're out there push push push i get to indiana and
00:06:46.620 there's some i mean i've never seen more hardcores okay the people at the event the grassroots people
00:06:51.400 unbelievable unbelievable i mean it was truly amazing and i mean it's some of the elected officials
00:06:56.300 many of them for redistricting some of them not i mean i'm talking to these people we're pushing it's
00:07:01.400 like just oh well you know things are pretty good here i mean it's crazy mindset it has to be defeated
00:07:06.240 has to be stopped these people need education you know we've got to get communicating with them
00:07:12.820 directly and being like hey man wake up look around this is not about indiana
00:07:16.440 this is not about whatever's going on in the state this is about representation on the national
00:07:21.080 scale and pushing back against the far left socialist takeover of our country which is what's at stake in
00:07:26.820 the next midterm obviously and so these people just i don't know you know it just i don't understand
00:07:33.640 the thinking obviously because it's so dangerous within our people they're going to have to be
00:07:37.120 pressured they're going to be pressured into this it's going to be this is going to be about political
00:07:40.400 muscle first off to get the establishment and then to fight off the democrats because we're in a
00:07:43.960 dogfight now and like i said it's net 10 minimum or we're going to have a very tough november uh alex
00:07:51.480 where do people go thank you for coming on today even by phone where do people go uh to get you to
00:07:56.460 get more analysis on this sir yeah i'm going to type out a report and i'll give it to grace and
00:08:01.260 everyone but i'm at the grass 81 on x truth getter all of that i appreciate everyone i mean it's really
00:08:07.060 in the end let's lock in obviously florida i think we don't have to worry about but that's a key
00:08:12.480 one you break the log jam i think things will start moving so we've got to just keep the momentum but
00:08:16.680 it is going to take 100 political muscle and if these people don't listen steve they deserve to
00:08:20.900 be defeated at the ballot box and this fight is not just this yeah not just this midterm this is going
00:08:27.220 to be a long fight so we got to dig in uh last thing that the uh this is separate from the supreme
00:08:35.000 court coming in on the gerrymander and dei gerrymandering that's going to come and i think some of the
00:08:40.500 states are he's particularly louisiana but we may pick up a couple more seats there but that's that's
00:08:45.540 a total sidebar that'll be decided by the courts yeah as early as january we'll have that update and
00:08:51.860 you know that that will hopefully play effect uh this election obviously louisiana moved back their
00:08:56.700 primary in preparation for a ruling um it in theory could affect how many seats are drawn in florida
00:09:02.780 but you know because i laid out the democrat ones which i know is confusing a lot of that are the next fight
00:09:08.500 you know and so while we are maniacally focused on this election we've got another election
00:09:13.160 obviously two years after when the when the presidential is up as well things are going to
00:09:18.280 be super tense so everything is laying out two-year four-year plan to keep pushing
00:09:23.100 brother thank you so much alex degrasse appreciate you on a saturday thank you steve
00:09:29.720 dave brett i know you're chomping at the bit i'm gonna turn the microphone back over to you brother
00:09:34.980 what do you got for me yeah well i just want to go back i'm supposed to be the moral philosopher and
00:09:41.500 the puritan on this show and every issue you bring up and every rant you go on all of it centers around
00:09:48.960 a rejection of the christian tradition right america there was no debate america first always has been
00:09:56.360 christian in the broadest sense of that term and as we lose christianity right all the cultural
00:10:03.080 commentators know this right even the leftists uh harzoni the uh the uh biblical scholar uh israel
00:10:10.100 knows this says this uh we live in a christian culture and if you just look at the threat from
00:10:15.940 mondani islamist the radical islamists uh the marxists the leftists the socialist communists
00:10:22.840 all of these china the border invasion all of it is an attack on christianity uh look at our higher 1.00
00:10:30.220 education schools right they the the philosophy part we can't duck it and the education it's not
00:10:36.180 sexy but you can't duck it and the churches this is your action item dear churches wake up
00:10:41.700 protestants catholics orthodox the kids if you don't have the bible in school or if you're not
00:10:47.300 teaching the bible you're not going to have a christian culture and if you don't have a christian
00:10:51.520 culture you're not going to have america first and the united states of america for that much longer
00:10:56.280 and so just a real briefly the long trajectory of this was reason came on the stage in europe right
00:11:02.700 the enlightenment kind of an attack on uh on uh revelation and the bible etc and that ruled that
00:11:10.520 think of woodrow wilson the elitists the ivy leagues reason uh you know a lot of it very good
00:11:17.860 related to our founding uh but reason and the enlightenment and harzoni will say this uh
00:11:23.000 the enlightenment thinkers were anti-semitic they don't want particulars they wanted a universal
00:11:28.360 globalist rule of law just think of the breton woods uh global uh liberal order right they don't
00:11:34.960 want nation states like the united states israel particulars of any sort so the nation state is a
00:11:41.520 threat so they've done all they can to get rid of the nation state and getting rid of christianity 0.81
00:11:47.720 it's the way you do that when when the enlightenment you know the there was obviously had a big influence
00:11:53.100 in the american revolution but yes wasn't it kind of the lead sled dog in the french revolution and
00:11:58.460 that's why the french revolution at core was a was to destroy christianity to destroy the underpinnings
00:12:04.420 not just of the church but to drive christianity out of the culture that's why they redid everything 1.00
00:12:08.660 from the calendar to customs and mores everything you see it you see it manifested in the french
00:12:14.860 revolution which remember folks came right at the end of the american revolution basically because
00:12:20.160 the the thing that triggered it was guess what debt and taxes the money they put up for the american
00:12:27.540 revolution came back to haunt them and they're really defeating england or trying to defeat england
00:12:32.500 destroy its empire but reason underpins so much of that and you saw it in all its brutality
00:12:38.600 in the streets uh of paris and the french revolution did you not sir yeah yeah no and
00:12:44.820 that's right they're they're both good guardrails reason with christianity right harvard's motto in
00:12:50.080 1640 with john harvard who came from cambridge another fine christian school back in the day was
00:12:55.980 truth for christ and church it's not anymore and now the scary thing is reason is gone and i i know
00:13:02.160 people won't understand that statement but reason no longer guides the ivy league schools it's radical
00:13:08.720 leftist marxism which is contrary in that war against christianity and the christians don't get
00:13:16.120 this yet and if we don't change the culture you lose the rest without the culture you don't get all
00:13:21.700 the things that the war rooms ticked off at right the border invasion the islamification the loss of
00:13:27.400 freedoms the censorship the globalists the inflation all of it's coming from a bad place well
00:13:33.380 we're making we're making progress yeah it's now time to drop the hammer and get the wins it's time
00:13:39.540 to fight right hang on brett you're with me and by the way we're going to have jessica i think jessica
00:13:44.500 vaughn's going to join us from cis with that amazing report you're talking about on h1b visas on monday as
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00:16:42.380 ukraine afterwards uh in a moment uh tege uh i know you can't give you exact location but that's a hell
00:16:48.900 of a visual where are you today brother i'm in idaho in uh southwest idaho my buddy's got a hunting
00:16:56.500 lodge out here it's 29 000 acres so came out here this morning just shooting a little trap and skeet then
00:17:01.940 we're gonna take my daughter out and see if we can put her on an elk and see if she can kill an elk 0.99
00:17:06.140 this morning you mean uh you mean the head of security the one we keep playing the video on
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00:19:58.720 thank you brother have a great day today thank you steve say hi to all your buddies out there
00:20:03.740 appreciate you too man pipe hitters um steve cortez was not was kind enough to remind me during the
00:20:11.240 break yo bannon you blew the number cortez is our numbers guy steve and this is shocking i i thought
00:20:19.360 it was the new just buyers overall were 40 you remind me the bloomberg story the the first time buyer
00:20:26.880 has now hit 40 years old that is stunning it used to be in the low 20s sir yeah that's correct and
00:20:33.100 listen it's rare when i get to correct the great stephen k bannon but in this case i think it's
00:20:37.400 really important i i've just been studying this issue so closely that i know it and have read about
00:20:41.920 it a lot the average first time age first time is now 40 years old 40 years used to be considered
00:20:49.360 getting into middle age right your life was already quite matured by then regarding home ownership
00:20:54.080 family formation all of that and we're seeing the reverse now by the way that number to put it in
00:20:58.320 context in only 2021 when biden took office that number was 31 years old so we have gone up a decade
00:21:05.240 in only four years why because credit standards are incredibly strict incredibly tight many of these
00:21:13.680 buyers are all cash or at least largely cash buyers and that's one reason why i believe that this
00:21:18.640 current run-up in housing prices there's a lot of folks who try to compare this to what happened
00:21:22.700 during the great financial crisis or preceding it i think it's entirely different this is the
00:21:26.760 opposite of no doc mortgages and those liar loans these are tight credit standards these are people
00:21:32.120 making i think an intelligent decision people with a lot of money to say in an inflationary environment
00:21:36.680 we want our money in homes but it's horrible for young people and to also connect this to my polling
00:21:41.400 i just did a huge poll over 2 000 gen z voters 18 to 25 year old voters across america and i asked
00:21:48.740 specifically about their aspirations on housing because i've noticed a lot of people my age a lot
00:21:52.680 of middle-aged people will tell me hey cortez don't worry about young people buying homes they 0.58
00:21:56.580 don't want to they're a different generation well maybe that's true for some of the millennials the 1.00
00:22:00.880 folks in their 30s but this gen z which is much more right wing uh much more like gen x with gen z
00:22:07.200 18 to 25 we asked them is it important to you to buy a home in your 20s or 30s 88 percent of them
00:22:14.200 said it's very important steve you know in polling we never get anything near 90 percent you can't get
00:22:20.200 90 percent of people to agree that you know next thursday is thanksgiving but nine out of 10 18 to
00:22:25.360 25 year olds say it's very important to them to buy a home in their 20s and 30s we know statistically
00:22:30.100 right now that's incredibly unlikely they're not going to be able to do that uh that goal that they
00:22:35.840 claim is important so it's something we clearly have to work on as a country as a society policy all of
00:22:40.980 it um that's a sad number let's get that number ticking back down which means that the style of
00:22:46.120 prosperity is going back up this is why charlie kirk you know andrew covette put up charlie kirk
00:22:51.500 came out on august 19th uh charlie kirk put his punch list of what he felt an active uh economic plan
00:22:59.200 for younger people i think the and it was six i think it was six items the fourth or fifth item was
00:23:04.780 build 10 million new homes he understood charlie understood better than anybody that young people
00:23:10.140 want to they want to have a stake in the system you know they want some real assets real assets
00:23:14.660 90 of the people's net worth i say this all the time on the home title like 90 or 90 of your net
00:23:19.920 worth is tied up in your home heck i think my parents at the end of the day it was 80 85 90
00:23:24.940 it's just um even with their stocks the home was you know the key that that was their savings account
00:23:31.080 um we get i want to get to ukraine you got a great let's do a short video i got dave bratt we've got
00:23:37.000 the great ben harnwell from rome cortez myself we're going to walk through this whole thing
00:23:41.160 they're trying to get a uh a peace treaty and and zelinski's coming on glued so let's go and play the
00:23:46.260 clip peace appears imminent for ukraine thanks to president trump and elections there couldn't come at
00:23:55.740 a better time because zelinski is caught up in a growing intense corruption scandal that reaches
00:24:04.720 right to his top inner circle and presidential office his pals they stole at least 100 million
00:24:14.000 dollars from their department of energy even with their nation at war and regular ukrainians suffering
00:24:21.360 and dying now one of the worst aspects of this operation midas this grand theft kiev is that the lead
00:24:29.680 detective rasolov he sits in jail right now in ukraine nabbed by zelinski's forces on bogus charges that
00:24:38.480 he's somehow working for russia so at this very moment the two main scumbag thieves who fleeced their
00:24:46.240 nation zelinski's bfs mindich and his financier known as sugar man they fled and they live in luxury
00:24:56.080 ensconced in israel while the brave cop who uncovered their crimes sits in a ukrainian jail cell so
00:25:04.720 detective rusolov must be freed and zelinski he needs to face his own jury meaning the ukrainian
00:25:12.880 people in a swift and transparent election they will then decide if it's time for corruption free
00:25:20.160 leadership in ukraine see my article posted inside ukraine okay i'm going to push that out everybody
00:25:30.400 ben harnwell is is cortez overstating the case is finally the corruption we've been talking about
00:25:35.920 since i don't know three years three plus years is it finally catching up with zelinski at the worst
00:25:41.440 possible time now that president trump and and his team are putting pressure on them to sign
00:25:46.240 basically sign this document by thanksgiving day sir well the timing from zelinski's perspective is
00:25:54.880 is less than optimal but as i said last saturday on the show steve um at this point in the game this
00:26:02.000 the switcheroo the great switcheroo of zelinski for someone who's far more credible like uh his uh his
00:26:09.440 former um general um chief of staff general um zelinski who's exiled to the to london as the
00:26:17.840 ambassador that would be catastrophic for anyone who wants to see the west specifically america
00:26:24.560 disengage from ukraine because what you're going to be doing is simply pulling someone out of the
00:26:30.080 picture who's loathed and hated by half of the american people and substituting them for someone who's
00:26:36.960 going to be far more credible at getting the cash in and in fact steve if you look at the 28 point
00:26:42.560 plan um that president trump is working on one of those points is indeed what we warned three and a
00:26:49.600 half years ago the mother of all grifts that is the reconstruction of ukraine um so i the last thing 0.84
00:26:56.960 i want to see at this point in the game is zelinski removed from power because your theory the case is the
00:27:05.120 war goes on like in netanyahu if zelinski stays there the war goes on and he won't get into a
00:27:10.160 peace deal and the peace deal here at least what they're putting out has both sovereignty and
00:27:14.880 reconstruction in it my feet look in 20 seconds my theory of the case is zelinski is so discredited
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00:30:31.440 so um a couple when they talk about this and i think the vp put out a a tweet today saying any deal
00:30:39.680 has to essentially guarantee ukrainian sovereignty i don't know how we got in this situation
00:30:46.000 this is america first is that we're going to guarantee or be a co-guarantor with nato countries
00:30:53.280 on the sovereignty of ukraine so if the russians years from now decide to move on odessa that's
00:30:59.520 an american problem as to quote steve cortez the russian-speaking eastern border of ukraine is not
00:31:07.120 in the vital national security interest of the united states the southern border is and we've done a
00:31:12.320 magnificent job of closing that but we still have 15 million even with either 1.6 or 2.2 that have
00:31:18.720 left under president trump's first 10 months we still have i don't know 15 million plus illegal alien
00:31:26.480 invaders just from biden's watch so cortez let me start with you and then go to ben the issues here
00:31:32.480 are at least as i see this thing um we're stepping into the middle of it and actually becoming the mac daddy
00:31:39.440 you know nigel farage already already criticizes about the timing of it i'd love nigel there's no 0.51
00:31:43.600 guy in the world i'd love more but yo nigel your country's broke you got islamic uh the rise of 1.00
00:31:50.400 islamism all over the united kingdom you're dead broke you got to take care if you got money to 1.00
00:31:55.920 throw into ukraine go for it if you got troops to put in ukraine go for it but yeah guaranteeing
00:32:01.600 their sovereignty a security guarantee the united states is going to be the mac daddy on and we're
00:32:06.400 going to lead or going to be co-partners with europe on a construction that means we're involved
00:32:11.120 in in that we're involved in ukraine for the next 25 30 40 or 50 years cortez you first yeah well look
00:32:19.120 far from ideal obviously right but uh a few points there first on on the europeans you know they're
00:32:23.840 complaining and carping about this you're right is ludicrous we're meeting with the europeans tomorrow
00:32:29.040 in geneva which is uh the epicenter of globalism inc uh they can complain all they want but unless
00:32:35.120 they're willing to pony up unless they have the cash and weapons which they don't uh then frankly
00:32:40.000 who cares what they think about this situation they really have no stake in it uh if but if paris and
00:32:45.440 geneva and brussels and london somehow think hey with zelensky we can form this uh coalition and keep
00:32:51.440 fighting to the last ukrainian have at it guys because we're sick of it we're not going to engage
00:32:56.640 anymore in this protectorate nonsense overseas but regarding the specifics now realize that president
00:33:02.480 trump was handed an impossible predicament by joe biden right and by what the globalists have
00:33:07.440 done in ukraine for a long time since 2014 but particularly since the russian invasion so
00:33:13.440 very difficult quagmire to work your way out of and there aren't great options when you put yourself
00:33:18.480 in a right corner i believe though that president trump is choosing the best option here um through
00:33:23.680 negotiation and diplomacy i think this 28 point plan oh yo yo yo yo yo come on man
00:33:30.160 you're saying work out of a quagmire 100 agree that he was dealt terrible the war would not have
00:33:34.640 been had never been started president trump's president full stop understand that but you're
00:33:39.200 talking about working your way out of a quagmire let me repeat you i'm just quoting the vice
00:33:44.000 president's tweet we're gonna any deal has to guarantee the sovereignty ukraine we ain't guaranteeing
00:33:49.600 the sovereignty united states of america yet guaranteeing the sovereignty number two we're
00:33:53.920 going to give a security guarantee and number three we're going to be co-partners in the
00:33:57.120 construction please tell me how that's not working your way into the quagmire steve cortez
00:34:01.920 okay regarding the security guarantee steve realize the united states never has to take any military
00:34:07.360 action that we do not want to take right so we can always analyze at the time uh is it appropriate
00:34:12.880 for the united states to act and what we say in november of 2025 does not mean that we have to act
00:34:18.960 in november of 2026 or 2030 going forward so let's just be realistic about that right a negotiation
00:34:25.040 tactic yeah but that's not if we listen we just okay we just signed a eo for cutter we just i think
00:34:32.080 signed one or told the saudis they got article five there's an implied right now there's an implied
00:34:37.600 i'm gonna say we got implied in israel here the united states is not we're not in the business of
00:34:42.240 giving security guarantees like we've given in the art in nato that were thing and and then and then
00:34:47.280 saying hey upon further review when the russians start rolling to odessa upon further review we're not
00:34:53.120 because you're going to have true a security guarantee doesn't mean you're just going to put
00:34:57.120 it on paper security guarantee means you're going to have something called an american soldier
00:35:02.720 somewhere near there right now they're in wiesbaden running the war you're going to move to the front
00:35:07.040 line hang it for a second so so let me grade let me grade uh cortez on the white house that's a c-
00:35:13.840 good dump you tried ben harnwell here let's go to rome your thoughts sir steve my cynical beady eyes
00:35:22.800 listen to the whole of steve cortez trying to put the best uh trying to put the lipstick on uh
00:35:29.280 on on the pork he tried and my my my reptilian he tried he gave it the best the best opportunity
00:35:37.600 you know the best the best sell he could in my my cynical reptilian eyes watched it and they didn't
00:35:44.320 blink for the whole sequence steve look let's be honest this 28 plan it's a turd sandwich we've got
00:35:50.640 to call it what it is it's a turd sandwich which is being presented as gourmet tornado rossini it ain't
00:35:57.760 it's terrible you know by the way by the way one of the conditions in this 28 plan i'm just going to
00:36:03.680 say that is that this agreement will be legally binding i'd like to know before which entity is
00:36:09.920 going to now sit above the sovereignty of the united states when that comes to play steve what you were
00:36:15.520 just steve bannon what you were just saying here about the um the security guarantees is a thousand
00:36:21.760 percent spot on uh let me just say referring to the plan what it says it says ukraine receives
00:36:28.640 security guarantees from the us but with conditions ukraine uh and then it goes on okay look
00:36:36.240 that is more dangerous for the united states than nato's article five assurances i've said this like
00:36:44.560 20 times on the show of the last four years i'll say it again all america or any nato member needs to do
00:36:52.320 if another nato member is attacked is send a fax and say we're studying the we are monitoring the
00:36:58.640 situation and we believe our monitoring of that situation uh it fulfills our obligations right
00:37:05.200 security guarantees are far more binding uh on on who who's signing on the other side look at the
00:37:11.920 first world war you are setting yourselves up here for a position which you are never going to escape from
00:37:17.680 and by the way steve it was by the way steves uh it is even worse than that denver would you kindly
00:37:25.920 put up my first article which i sent through that the quote from access i'm going to hand back to you
00:37:30.640 guys uh on this point this is one of the most dangerous things i've ever read in my life right
00:37:37.680 because it is not simply security guarantees for ukraine according to this what we know of this 28
00:37:45.360 point down which isn't the fullness of it it's security guarantees for ukraine and europe that's
00:37:52.240 that's that's the biggest one of the biggest buried leads i've ever read in my life and that's
00:37:57.360 that's what axios says security guarantees for ukraine and europe good luck good good luck with that folks
00:38:04.560 this is anywhere but america first more more than more than an article five right now of attack on
00:38:11.520 russia you think this is even deeper than that ben of course it is of course it is because article five
00:38:17.600 is simply a legal mechanism for you to start warring with another nation that hasn't directly attacked
00:38:24.480 you without you suffering any obligations under international law security guarantees bind you
00:38:30.320 into doing something yeah ben you're actually making my point though that there is no authority that can
00:38:36.720 force the united states to act i mean you're making my point right neither president trump nor any
00:38:42.720 american president just because of a pledge that was made in november of 2025 needs to take any action
00:38:48.720 that is not directly in the interest of the united states we always have full sovereignty over how we
00:38:55.520 use our forces that's just reality right and going forward steve cortez at steve cortez i will respond
00:39:03.520 saying let me know when it says one of the 28 points is the agreement is legally binding let me
00:39:10.800 know before whom before which court this agreement is going to be binding oh exactly it's going to be
00:39:16.160 that simple i didn't know a little it's not by a little yeah a little historical context here gentlemen
00:39:24.320 i'll attempt to thread the needle yeah we we've lied to russia on the prior 18 countries uh that have
00:39:30.720 encroached upon russia's border uh this is the 19th right so for me the key is what what is trump we're
00:39:38.080 already right we're only giving away a little bit of buffer zone to russia we're the aggressors in
00:39:43.600 this occasion right over the past couple years we've been the aggressors of following john meersheimer
00:39:48.480 and all the smartest guys in real politic and so it all comes down to does trump have a forward
00:39:53.760 looking arrangement with russia and putin that's what it all comes down to uh and the security arrangements
00:39:59.840 whatever we we're not too good at keeping our word on those kind of things hang on hang on hang on
00:40:05.520 what do you mean forward looking with putin even some side deal or whatever when they want at the
00:40:09.680 time they want to take odessa if they're going to take odessa we're going to we're going to send
00:40:13.040 the 82nd airborne in with a bunch of hapless uh nato uh troops we're going to send them in with the 1.00
00:40:19.280 with the uh the hapless nato because we know nato's totally understaffed they're not really paying for
00:40:24.560 the military they talk about five percent they're aiming at two percent because they got you know
00:40:28.400 health care in there and climate change and all that so we're going to send the 101st they got
00:40:32.720 101st got a brigade of the 101st and remaining right now they're going to forward deploy to odessa to
00:40:37.840 stop uh the russian army from coming to odessa has anybody looked at what ukraine looks like
00:40:43.200 folks remember here president trump has moved heaven and earth to bring peace here
00:40:47.600 there would never happen if he was president it happened under biden and all the globalists and
00:40:52.000 people in brussels brussels 30 muslim england what seven percent i think five or six
00:40:57.920 percent muslim in london you can't even walk around paris is the fifth republic's falling 1.00
00:41:02.640 right now because they're broke macron's got no money it's that group in germany a total disaster
00:41:08.480 because they allowed mass migration from these islamic countries we're supposed to go in now 1.00
00:41:14.080 president trump has moved heaven and earth you know what they've done they came to the oval office
00:41:18.560 and lied to him and he called their bluff when they came there what eight weeks ago remember that
00:41:23.280 whole day they all came all day and they're going to talk they're going to give this and they got
00:41:26.640 arms here and they got men here they came up with nothing and so now is not the time for the united
00:41:33.120 states i don't think until the this is the europeans war boris johnson and those demons over there are
00:41:40.160 the ones that they had some sort of accommodation worked out in the first couple of days this and
00:41:45.120 boris johnson trying to be winston churchill right talked him out of it and you know macron's a big
00:41:50.080 he's napoleon jr and they're all big shots until it comes time to actually deliver and then they
00:41:56.720 want american security guarantees they want american co-partnerships on on construction and they want
00:42:03.040 to guarantee uh ukrainian sovereignty i don't give a damn about ukrainian sovereignty i don't think
00:42:08.960 everybody in this country cares about ukrainian sovereignty i'm not so sure all the ukrainians care
00:42:13.920 about sovereignty what they want is the fight to stop right now so i would like the sovereignty here's
00:42:19.040 what i'd like to do instead of putting the the 101st in romania to get ready for the invasion of
00:42:25.280 odessa that we have to go defend why don't we get the 80 at the 101st turn them over to tom homan 0.82
00:42:31.440 and steven miller and on monday we show up in new york city and we take out all the illegal alien 0.71
00:42:36.880 invaders and particularly the ones that voted for mandami the ugandan marxist jihadists and we send 1.00
00:42:43.040 them back to their point of origin that that talks about the sovereignty of the united states
00:42:49.760 president trump's moved heaven and earth and he's been a diplomat he's been a statesman it's now time
00:42:55.840 to tell the british the french and the german show me what you got where's your money where's your
00:43:01.520 troops where's your guarantee hell they don't have sovereignty of their own countries they've turned the
00:43:06.640 sovereignty over to radical islam short break get the same group on the other side
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00:44:43.040 host steven k band oh welcome back uh that was good oh so brad uh brad i know you won and you need
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00:44:59.280 okay hey ben harnwell uh we lost brad uh ben harnwell uh give us your coordinates give us your
00:45:22.320 coordinates so people can get your beady-eyed analysis over the weekend sir
00:45:25.680 i can't hear anything yeah okay now go to cortez steve cortez we're having a little technical
00:45:35.160 problem here do you do you have us i've got you yes yes i i've got you okay fine so then then you're
00:45:40.760 going to take the whole segment it's all yours exactly exactly yeah listen uh zelensky is is a
00:45:47.140 corrupt tyrant he's in an incredibly weak position domestically the weakest he's been in in his entire
00:45:52.900 tenure this is exactly the time for president trump to press him and to effectively compel him
00:45:58.660 to accept the terms the american negotiated terms to end this war then they need to hold an election
00:46:05.300 and we are going to crush zelensky in an election and get a real leader in ukraine that's in america's
00:46:11.860 interest steve you and i since the earliest days of this black sea war which was never in our vital
00:46:16.880 national interest have been constantly saying that this is not america's problem unfortunately did
00:46:21.740 washington globalists made it our problem now donald trump is going to get us out of it and
00:46:27.060 thankfully zelensky's own corruption is making our jobs but hang on but are you saying that zelensky 0.73
00:46:32.920 will sign this and that we should do all the commitment because president trump i think in
00:46:36.600 wikoff have given him one week make a decision and zelensky's out there wanting non-stop are you
00:46:42.060 saying sign the deal and then have the election and get rid of zelensky exactly 100 and i believe 0.76
00:46:47.640 that's what's going to happen i think that's by far the most probable scenario right now uh for all
00:46:52.160 the whining of western europe and you're comfortable with the guaranteeing of uh of ukrainian sovereignty
00:46:58.320 because aren't we doing that in this deal no i'm not comfortable with it uh but if that is right now
00:47:04.140 the tech the current posture of american policy that's going to get to an end of this war uh then
00:47:08.900 i think it makes sense for now why do we care but hang on i'm totally i'm totally cornfused
00:47:14.060 why do we care i don't care if they slug it out that's their decision you would trade off you
00:47:18.840 would actually say i would give it hang on you would guarantee their sovereignty if it quote unquote
00:47:22.840 end of this war basically got a ceasefire you would you would do that look i that's what president
00:47:28.740 trump has proposed i think it makes sense given the predicament we're in right far from what's the
00:47:34.340 predict what's the hang on but hang on hang well what's the predicament what's the predicament
00:47:39.180 the predicament is that we've invested he doesn't sign if he doesn't sign it by thursday we walk
00:47:43.220 away we're not we have oh 100 percent what's 100 but what's the predicament what predicament are we
00:47:48.040 in no listen it's a self-reduced predicament right because that's the predicament what what's the
00:47:54.360 what's the what's the hang on what's the predicament that we guarantee there you guarantee somebody
00:47:58.580 sovereignty that is massive particularly when the russians think they're part of russia right in
00:48:05.180 the ukrainians i get the fact that ukrainians not but if you guarantee their sovereignty you
00:48:09.680 guarantee their sovereignty you're on the hook for everything that's a self-induced predicament
00:48:14.540 of the united states this is the bloodlines this is a european problem if they want to be guaranteeing
00:48:20.180 sovereignty in brussels and uk have at it but i don't think you're gonna see those guys if the
00:48:24.180 americans aren't there they're not gonna be guaranteeing anything because they got nothing 1.00
00:48:27.520 guaranteed with anyway cortez you gave it your best shot i appreciate the fact you gave it your best shot
00:48:32.940 we'll see a lot more of that this week where do people go steve get all your videos everything
00:48:37.140 yes cortez investigates.com cortez with an s at the end i'm at cortez steve on twitter x
00:48:42.920 thank you very much uh trevor comstock thanks for joining us give us a minute or two
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00:50:33.180 sovereignty let zelinski deal with them i just think hey don't don't get ourselves into a deeper
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00:52:53.020 former cia pentagon and white house advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets
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