Bannon's War Room - Episode 4981： Remembering Pearl Harbor 84 years Ago; Tina Peters Letter To President Trump

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00:04:02.000 President Trump put out his national, his strategy for the United States.

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00:05:13.000 I want to play Captain Fennell's with me.

00:05:16.000 And I want to play the traditional cold open we do for Pearl Harbor.

00:05:21.000 Pearl Harbor was actually yesterday.

00:05:23.000 But the day after Pearl Harbor is maybe even more interesting than what happened in the attack itself.

00:05:28.000 Let's go ahead and play and I'll bring Captain Fennell in.

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00:05:56.000 We interrupt this program to bring you a special news bulletin.

00:06:04.980 The Japanese have attacked Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, by air.

00:06:07.880 President Roosevelt has just announced.

00:06:09.900 The attack also was made on all naval and military activities

00:06:12.680 on the principal island of Oahu.

00:06:26.000 Hello NBC, hello NBC, this is KTU in Honolulu, Hawaii.

00:06:52.620 I am speaking from the roof of the Advertiser Publishing Company building.

00:07:00.160 We have witnessed this morning a distant view,

00:07:05.160 a great metal off Pearl Harbor,

00:07:08.340 and a severe bombing off Pearl Harbor by enemy planes, undoubtedly Japanese.

00:07:15.920 The city of Honolulu has also been attacked and considerable damage done.

00:07:21.800 This battle has been going on for nearly three hours.

00:07:27.600 One of the bombs dropped within 50 feet of KTU Tower.

00:07:33.420 It is no joke, it is a real war.

00:07:36.820 The public of Honolulu has been advised to keep in their homes

00:07:49.120 and await results from the Army and Navy.

00:07:54.080 There has been fierce fighting going on in the air and on the sea.

00:08:01.320 The heavy shootings seems to be...

00:08:07.080 One, two, three, four.

00:08:09.360 Just a moment, a little interruption.

00:08:10.880 We cannot estimate just how much damage has been done,

00:08:17.140 but it has been a very severe attack.

00:08:21.860 The Navy and Army appear now to have the air and the sea under control.

00:08:30.160 Vice President, Mr. Speaker,

00:08:34.940 members of the Senate, of the House of Representatives,

00:08:38.840 yesterday, December 7th, 1941,

00:08:46.260 a date which will live in infamy.

00:08:53.520 The United States of America

00:08:55.780 was suddenly and deliberately attacked

00:08:59.520 by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

00:09:05.160 The United States was at peace with that nation

00:09:10.640 and at solicitation of Japan

00:09:15.980 still in conversation with its government

00:09:20.720 and its emperor

00:09:22.440 looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.

00:09:29.100 Indeed, one hour after,

00:09:32.020 Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing

00:09:36.860 in the American island of Oahu,

00:09:41.500 the Japanese ambassador to the United States

00:09:44.880 and his colleague

00:09:46.940 delivered to our Secretary of State

00:09:51.680 a formal reply

00:09:54.260 to a recent American message.

00:09:57.180 And while this reply stated

00:10:00.360 that it seemed useless

00:10:02.880 to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations,

00:10:06.940 it contained no threat

00:10:10.460 or hint

00:10:12.560 of war

00:10:14.260 or of armed attacks.

00:10:17.400 It will be recorded

00:10:19.740 that the distance of Hawaii

00:10:23.000 from Japan

00:10:24.520 makes it obvious

00:10:26.880 that the attack

00:10:27.860 was deliberately planned

00:10:29.600 many days

00:10:31.920 or even weeks ago.

00:10:35.520 During the intervening time,

00:10:39.160 the Japanese government

00:10:40.600 has deliberately sought

00:10:43.320 to deceive the United States

00:10:45.880 by false statements

00:10:47.940 and expressions of hope

00:10:50.240 for continued peace.

00:10:52.300 The attack yesterday

00:10:55.640 on the Hawaiian islands

00:10:58.540 has caused severe damage

00:11:01.320 to American naval

00:11:03.780 and military forces.

00:11:06.340 I regret to tell you

00:11:08.160 that very many American lives

00:11:10.440 have been lost.

00:11:13.700 In addition,

00:11:14.400 American ships have been reported

00:11:16.080 torpedoed on the high seas

00:11:18.080 between San Francisco

00:11:20.700 and Honolulu.

00:11:24.120 Captain Fennell,

00:11:25.420 one time Captain Fennell,

00:11:28.100 you were intel

00:11:28.780 for PAC fleet, correct?

00:11:31.340 Sink-PAC fleet?

00:11:32.340 The Pacific fleet?

00:11:34.020 So you know,

00:11:34.920 you were out of Pearl Harbor.

00:11:36.700 You know this very well.

00:11:39.500 Your thoughts.

00:11:40.440 I might say that,

00:11:42.280 and I always tell audiences

00:11:43.700 to focus on this,

00:11:45.440 he did not declare war on Germany.

00:11:49.080 Germany declared war on us,

00:11:50.440 I think,

00:11:50.680 two or three days later.

00:11:51.920 And they glossed that over

00:11:53.520 and they talked about NATO.

00:11:55.380 Roosevelt did not declare war

00:11:56.720 on Germany.

00:11:57.420 Why?

00:11:58.000 Didn't think he had the votes.

00:11:59.420 Didn't think he,

00:11:59.940 and this is where the Russians

00:12:01.120 were fighting.

00:12:02.540 I think at this time,

00:12:04.040 the Wehrmacht was on the outskirts

00:12:05.940 of Moscow or getting close.

00:12:08.040 From June of 1941 to December,

00:12:10.080 they ran the tables

00:12:11.080 all the way through places like,

00:12:13.040 wait for it, Ukraine.

00:12:14.580 What happened here?

00:12:18.700 We don't have a ton of time,

00:12:20.100 but I want to take a couple

00:12:20.720 of minutes now.

00:12:21.560 This is still one of the great

00:12:22.560 unsolved mysteries

00:12:23.500 in American history,

00:12:24.480 and it's quite important

00:12:25.520 to where we are today

00:12:27.120 because of the individuals involved,

00:12:29.220 particularly General Marshall.

00:12:30.380 Later, McCarthy.

00:12:32.220 McCarthy's biggest takedown

00:12:34.420 was Marshall.

00:12:35.120 They never talk about it.

00:12:36.080 The globalists never talk about it.

00:12:37.180 But years later,

00:12:38.460 on the floor of the Senate,

00:12:39.360 he gave a six-hour speech to a talk.

00:12:43.240 I think it was called

00:12:43.900 The Retreat from Victory

00:12:45.060 was the speech.

00:12:46.240 It got put in a book later.

00:12:47.780 He made it a book later,

00:12:48.720 but he specifically was very accusatory

00:12:52.340 about General Marshall

00:12:53.780 in the high command

00:12:55.280 of the United States

00:12:56.300 about what happened

00:12:57.500 at Pearl Harbor, sir.

00:13:00.040 Well, Steve,

00:13:00.980 thanks for having me on.

00:13:02.720 And it's, you know,

00:13:03.560 every time of this year,

00:13:05.240 it's a special time,

00:13:07.260 it should be for Americans

00:13:08.920 to stop and remember

00:13:10.600 what happened,

00:13:11.860 the context of the geopolitical situation

00:13:15.660 that you related with FDR

00:13:17.960 and what was happening in Europe,

00:13:19.840 that raging war that was going on.

00:13:22.340 So there was a push,

00:13:23.700 clearly,

00:13:24.940 understanding that war

00:13:26.560 was raging in Europe

00:13:27.560 and we were somehow

00:13:28.940 going to have to get involved.

00:13:31.480 I will go so far as to say

00:13:33.180 that there was some kind

00:13:34.260 of conspiracy to get us in

00:13:35.640 and that we knew about

00:13:36.600 the attack ahead of time.

00:13:38.520 You have to remember

00:13:39.460 in May of 1940,

00:13:42.700 we moved the Pacific Fleet

00:13:44.340 from San Diego

00:13:45.260 to Pearl Harbor.

00:13:46.420 That's a fact.

00:13:47.840 Now, again,

00:13:48.760 Pearl Harbor, Hawaii

00:13:49.600 was not a state.

00:13:50.820 It was a U.S. territory.

00:13:52.340 But we had our U.S. Pacific Fleet

00:13:54.320 went forward.

00:13:56.040 The commander

00:13:56.480 of the U.S. Pacific Fleet

00:13:57.500 was Admiral Husband Kimmel.

00:14:00.240 And after this attack,

00:14:01.420 he was relieved of command

00:14:02.560 and Admiral Chester Nimitz

00:14:04.400 was brought in.

00:14:05.080 At that time,

00:14:06.380 the intelligence community

00:14:07.480 of the United States

00:14:08.480 was not like it is today

00:14:10.400 in one sense.

00:14:11.620 There was no director

00:14:12.740 of national intelligence.

00:14:14.320 There was no CIA.

00:14:16.200 Bill Donovan

00:14:17.180 was over

00:14:18.000 designated

00:14:19.080 as the chief coordinator

00:14:21.240 for information

00:14:22.420 back in July of 41.

00:14:24.620 OSS didn't stand up

00:14:25.900 for another year

00:14:27.020 until July 42

00:14:28.160 with the JCS order.

00:14:30.020 The FBI's main emphasis

00:14:31.940 on the Western Hemisphere

00:14:33.280 and counterintelligence,

00:14:35.660 domestic counterintelligence actions.

00:14:38.040 The Army had

00:14:38.620 Military Intelligence Division

00:14:40.000 and Signals Intelligence Services,

00:14:44.080 which is a communications intelligence.

00:14:46.220 And then you had

00:14:46.640 the Navy had

00:14:47.360 our Office of Naval Intelligence,

00:14:48.720 the oldest intelligence agency.

00:14:50.440 Going back to 1812.

00:14:51.860 Jim, Captain,

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00:17:54.480 one of the best

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00:17:56.120 I've got Captain Fennell

00:17:57.900 on right now,

00:17:58.580 one of the best

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00:18:02.760 gave up his career

00:18:04.440 to warn the people

00:18:05.460 of the United States

00:18:06.080 about the rise

00:18:07.680 of the Chinese Communist Party

00:18:08.960 and particularly their Navy

00:18:09.960 and how it was going to be

00:18:10.780 a massive threat

00:18:11.880 to our interest

00:18:13.140 in the Western Pacific,

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00:18:16.720 One of the great heroes.

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00:18:47.600 So Captain Fennell,

00:18:49.040 correct me if I'm wrong,

00:18:50.540 and maybe,

00:18:51.420 I thought they had broken both

00:18:53.380 because people confuse this.

00:18:54.660 It's just not the diplomatic codes,

00:18:56.920 that we realize

00:18:57.900 what President Roosevelt

00:18:59.160 was talking about.

00:18:59.940 They're sitting there

00:19:00.640 negotiating with us

00:19:01.780 to let us to sleep.

00:19:03.240 At the same time,

00:19:04.440 and Roosevelt had one thing wrong.

00:19:05.840 It wasn't days or weeks.

00:19:06.860 They had planned this

00:19:07.540 months and months ago,

00:19:08.680 really from the time

00:19:09.600 that we put the oil embargo

00:19:11.360 on them back,

00:19:12.140 and I think in the summer of 1940.

00:19:13.540 Summer of 1941,

00:19:14.700 one of the most important summers

00:19:15.860 in world history.

00:19:17.860 The beginning of the

00:19:18.640 Wehrmacht assault into Russia, 0.93

00:19:21.480 the breakup of the Russian Nazi pact,

00:19:24.100 and also the United States

00:19:25.360 getting tough

00:19:26.020 on the economic

00:19:27.320 co-prosperity sphere

00:19:28.800 that Imperial Japan 0.74

00:19:29.860 was trying to run

00:19:30.660 the tables in Asia

00:19:31.600 and put an embargo on oil,

00:19:33.640 which was the mother's milk

00:19:34.820 of the Imperial Navy

00:19:36.460 and the Japanese Army,

00:19:38.880 and led to the plane

00:19:39.840 that led to Pearl Harbor.

00:19:41.140 But we had broken,

00:19:42.500 I thought we had cracked,

00:19:43.940 your predecessors

00:19:44.740 had cracked both

00:19:45.440 the naval codes

00:19:46.380 and the diplomatic codes.

00:19:48.540 That's why we knew

00:19:49.360 exactly what was going

00:19:50.260 to go into Pearl Harbor,

00:19:51.180 and we didn't inform

00:19:52.600 Admiral Kimmel

00:19:53.800 or General Short,

00:19:55.260 the head of the army,

00:19:56.660 out there,

00:19:57.000 the general in charge of the army.

00:19:57.900 Either one of them

00:19:58.600 were not in the loop

00:19:59.760 on what was actually

00:20:00.600 going on, sir.

00:20:02.780 The diplomatic codes

00:20:04.240 were outside of the Navy

00:20:06.100 and were with the army,

00:20:07.480 but inside the naval circles

00:20:08.900 there were various

00:20:09.860 kinds of naval codes.

00:20:11.900 There was the Imperial 0.86

00:20:12.780 Japanese Admiral's

00:20:14.160 communication code

00:20:15.200 that had been assigned

00:20:16.380 to Station Hypo

00:20:17.300 in Pearl Harbor,

00:20:18.340 where I spent eight years

00:20:19.540 of my life working.

00:20:21.520 Those gentlemen out there

00:20:22.940 were restricted

00:20:23.780 from having access

00:20:24.720 to JN-25,

00:20:26.720 which was the fleet

00:20:27.680 communications code

00:20:29.140 that had been fully broken,

00:20:32.440 we would have had

00:20:33.040 much more insight

00:20:34.040 into the maneuvering

00:20:35.300 and location

00:20:36.300 of the Kido Patae,

00:20:37.420 the Japanese striking force.

00:20:39.080 And that was only given

00:20:40.080 to the people in D.C.,

00:20:41.480 Station Negat.

00:20:43.120 They had 230-plus people

00:20:44.720 back there

00:20:45.160 trying to break it

00:20:46.140 fully open.

00:20:47.220 They had some small breaks,

00:20:48.980 but they didn't really

00:20:49.960 have it fully broken.

00:20:51.360 Hypo only had,

00:20:52.360 in Hawaii,

00:20:52.920 Station Hypo only had

00:20:53.940 40 people.

00:20:55.400 And that,

00:20:56.240 before December 7th,

00:20:57.440 they were prohibited

00:20:58.180 from access to that

00:20:59.480 by Admiral R.K. Turner

00:21:01.540 because of the classifications

00:21:03.400 of it and also because

00:21:04.700 there was this,

00:21:06.380 you know,

00:21:06.800 kind of a,

00:21:08.100 we want to control

00:21:09.020 things back in D.C.

00:21:10.140 and you guys out there

00:21:11.020 in the fleet,

00:21:11.660 you don't really know

00:21:12.280 what's going on.

00:21:13.340 And after December 7th,

00:21:15.080 the guy that ran

00:21:15.880 Station Hypo,

00:21:17.260 Commander Joseph Rochefort,

00:21:18.480 he said,

00:21:19.380 I'm not listening

00:21:20.080 to those guys

00:21:20.740 in D.C. anymore,

00:21:21.900 Op-20G,

00:21:23.260 the guys that were

00:21:24.520 running that back then.

00:21:26.780 And he said,

00:21:27.120 I'm going to start

00:21:27.620 breaking it on my own.

00:21:29.020 I'm not going to follow

00:21:29.840 the Imperial Admin's Code,

00:21:32.300 Japanese Admin's Communications.

00:21:34.460 It's not very useful.

00:21:35.540 I need operational intelligence.

00:21:37.740 And within four months,

00:21:38.740 they were breaking

00:21:39.480 30% of JN-25,

00:21:41.560 which gave us

00:21:42.380 the victory at Midway

00:21:43.680 because we knew

00:21:44.540 they were going

00:21:45.340 to Midway for certain.

00:21:46.600 So this is the real

00:21:48.440 issue for today

00:21:49.420 is that we have

00:21:50.920 a rising Chinese Navy.

00:21:53.200 It's risen.

00:21:54.120 It's here.

00:21:54.860 It's operating.

00:21:55.680 A carrier is outside

00:21:56.700 the first island chain

00:21:57.700 right now.

00:21:58.600 An expeditionary strike group

00:22:00.020 is outside

00:22:00.480 the first island chain.

00:22:01.680 They're surrounding

00:22:02.540 Taiwan on a daily basis.

00:22:04.300 They're going after Japan 1.00

00:22:05.680 and not just the Senkakus.

00:22:07.380 Now they're talking

00:22:08.020 about taking

00:22:08.620 the Ryuku Islands

00:22:09.700 and saying that

00:22:10.560 that's Japanese

00:22:11.280 sovereign territory.

00:22:12.380 They already do that

00:22:13.340 in the entirety

00:22:13.900 of the South China Sea.

00:22:15.000 And we have people

00:22:16.960 in Washington, D.C.

00:22:18.280 that still tell us

00:22:19.660 that they're really

00:22:20.220 not a threat.

00:22:21.520 The Quincy Institute,

00:22:23.160 people like that

00:22:24.040 are pushing this out

00:22:25.580 on a daily basis.

00:22:26.760 And we have to be

00:22:27.820 very worried about

00:22:28.880 that we haven't

00:22:29.860 prepared ourselves

00:22:30.720 like we did in 1940

00:22:32.060 when Senator Carl Vinson

00:22:33.860 put through

00:22:34.640 the Two Ocean Navy Act

00:22:35.840 that said we will have

00:22:37.100 the fleet that we need

00:22:38.520 to be able to fight Japan.

00:22:40.040 That hasn't been done yet.

00:22:41.520 And we just canceled

00:22:42.360 a frigate,

00:22:43.680 the consolation class.

00:22:44.940 And yesterday,

00:22:45.540 the Senkakus said

00:22:46.580 we're going to come out

00:22:47.240 with a new domestically

00:22:48.380 designed frigate.

00:22:50.140 We have been in a crisis

00:22:51.760 inside our nation

00:22:53.120 and our Navy

00:22:53.900 when it comes to being

00:22:55.220 prepared for war at sea

00:22:57.140 from an against

00:22:58.760 an adversary

00:22:59.420 that has built

00:23:00.640 a Navy to beat us

00:23:02.220 in a war at sea.

00:23:04.020 And so we...

00:23:04.600 Is the...

00:23:05.260 Hang on, hang on, hang on,

00:23:06.280 hang on, hang on.

00:23:07.080 Hang on, hang on.

00:23:07.720 That crisis...

00:23:08.840 Are we...

00:23:09.580 The one thing

00:23:10.220 that the planners

00:23:11.320 in the visionaries

00:23:13.880 before World War II,

00:23:15.000 they saw that

00:23:15.820 the Imperial Navy

00:23:16.600 was going to be a threat.

00:23:18.220 You know,

00:23:18.540 whether we look

00:23:19.860 the other way,

00:23:20.340 intelligence,

00:23:21.100 whether it was

00:23:21.920 a conspiracy,

00:23:22.740 all of that,

00:23:23.600 let's leave that aside,

00:23:24.520 put a pin in it.

00:23:25.520 They definitely knew

00:23:26.320 the Imperial Navy

00:23:27.040 was going to be a threat

00:23:28.080 and they were starting

00:23:29.400 to plan for it, right?

00:23:30.480 They were starting

00:23:31.000 to build carriers.

00:23:31.700 Now, we didn't do

00:23:32.440 after the ramp up of 1941.

00:23:34.580 Do you believe

00:23:35.800 that the leadership

00:23:37.640 in our country,

00:23:38.480 the military leadership,

00:23:39.760 the strategic leadership,

00:23:41.220 believes that

00:23:42.080 the Chinese Communist Party Navy,

00:23:43.640 the PLN,

00:23:45.120 the People's Liberation Navy,

00:23:46.440 is as big a threat

00:23:47.420 as the Imperial...

00:23:48.240 Today to us

00:23:49.400 and our vital

00:23:50.800 national security interests,

00:23:52.360 not sideshows

00:23:54.220 like the Middle East

00:23:55.100 or Israel,

00:23:55.680 not sideshows,

00:23:56.600 worse sideshows

00:23:57.240 like Ukraine,

00:23:58.660 that they realize,

00:24:01.060 like our predecessors

00:24:02.300 did realize in the 30,

00:24:03.960 although caught off guard,

00:24:05.800 the threat

00:24:06.620 of a naval power

00:24:07.600 in the Pacific, sir.

00:24:09.920 I think the current

00:24:11.180 administration's

00:24:12.280 national security team

00:24:13.740 recognizes and understands

00:24:15.640 the threat.

00:24:16.640 The issue is

00:24:17.540 is how to solve it

00:24:18.600 and there is an attitude

00:24:20.300 of, well,

00:24:21.480 there's not enough money,

00:24:22.760 there's not enough time,

00:24:24.240 we don't have

00:24:24.860 the shipbuilding industry,

00:24:26.180 we let go

00:24:26.820 over 35 years or more

00:24:28.820 and so they're saying

00:24:30.280 let's build this hybrid fleet

00:24:31.800 of unmanned vehicles

00:24:33.360 and manned ships.

00:24:35.800 I don't see much written

00:24:37.740 or much attention

00:24:38.700 on the manned ships part,

00:24:40.100 the big capital ships,

00:24:41.900 carriers, destroyers,

00:24:43.240 frigates,

00:24:44.160 fast attack submarines.

00:24:45.840 All I hear about

00:24:46.900 and read about

00:24:47.440 on a daily basis

00:24:48.320 is all these

00:24:49.500 small drone ships

00:24:51.100 like 24 foot long

00:24:53.260 drone ships

00:24:53.860 and no one is telling me

00:24:55.600 how we're going to get

00:24:56.220 24 foot long drone ships

00:24:58.080 from San Diego

00:24:59.280 or San Francisco

00:25:00.280 into the Western Pacific

00:25:02.020 to fight a war at sea

00:25:03.480 with the PLA Navy

00:25:04.900 and that is a big ask

00:25:06.840 and so what I'm saying

00:25:08.460 is we need people

00:25:09.720 that are not just going

00:25:10.640 to wish this away

00:25:13.000 because we don't have money

00:25:14.340 or we don't have the will.

00:25:16.000 We are Americans

00:25:16.860 and if we're going

00:25:17.660 to win this thing,

00:25:18.800 we need everything

00:25:19.680 in the kit bag

00:25:20.620 and we can have drones

00:25:22.360 and we can have

00:25:23.040 artificial intelligence.

00:25:24.540 Do you?

00:25:24.780 If we don't have

00:25:25.380 big capital ships

00:25:26.580 to fight a war at sea,

00:25:28.020 we are going to end up

00:25:29.140 having the PLA Navy

00:25:30.700 rolling through

00:25:31.960 the Hawaiian Islands

00:25:32.900 and onto our West Coast

00:25:34.360 because that's the Navy

00:25:36.060 that the Chinese Communist Party

00:25:38.480 has built

00:25:39.000 over the last 25 to 30 years.

00:25:41.620 Do you believe

00:25:42.000 we're going to go to war 0.85

00:25:44.640 with the Chinese Communist Party

00:25:46.300 and the People's Liberation Navy?

00:25:47.700 Because President Trump,

00:25:48.900 this is one of the reasons

00:25:49.720 he's trying to balance everything.

00:25:51.380 He's trying to stop

00:25:52.140 the kinetic part

00:25:52.840 of the Third World War

00:25:53.780 on that side

00:25:54.840 of the Eurasian landmass now,

00:25:56.100 both in the Middle East

00:25:57.820 and in Ukraine.

00:25:59.280 He's trying to be

00:26:00.260 to the degree possible

00:26:00.980 accommodating some trade deal.

00:26:02.900 He's trying to keep the peace

00:26:03.960 and doesn't want to go to conflict.

00:26:05.200 He also strategically

00:26:06.740 is obviously

00:26:07.920 he's always been very worried.

00:26:09.140 You can tell that Taiwan 0.99

00:26:10.480 is only 110 miles

00:26:12.140 or 100 miles away

00:26:13.100 from mainland China

00:26:14.280 and they've built

00:26:15.020 an entire apparatus

00:26:16.280 specifically looking

00:26:17.880 to take out our defenses

00:26:18.920 in Taiwan.

00:26:20.100 With all that,

00:26:21.000 do you believe

00:26:21.700 we're headed to

00:26:22.400 a naval war

00:26:23.480 with the Chinese Communist Party

00:26:25.140 in the next 5 or 10 years, sir?

00:26:28.060 If the Chinese Communist Party

00:26:30.300 is unable to get

00:26:31.520 the island of Taiwan

00:26:33.380 to kowtow to them 0.63

00:26:34.680 and to become

00:26:35.320 their

00:26:35.800 open

00:26:37.560 puppet

00:26:38.900 and to be

00:26:39.620 to claim

00:26:40.420 sovereign territory

00:26:41.340 over Taiwan

00:26:42.200 through non-kinetic means,

00:26:43.740 if they can't get that

00:26:44.700 in the next 5 to 10 years,

00:26:46.380 then I believe

00:26:46.980 that they will use

00:26:47.820 military force.

00:26:48.920 They told us that.

00:26:50.340 They built a force

00:26:51.260 to do that

00:26:51.940 and they're setting

00:26:53.000 the conditions

00:26:53.740 to do that

00:26:54.620 on a daily basis.

00:26:58.000 Jim,

00:26:59.440 Fennel,

00:27:00.120 you've,

00:27:00.740 Captain Fennel,

00:27:01.380 you've given your

00:27:02.160 whole career

00:27:03.320 for this topic.

00:27:04.220 Where do people

00:27:04.760 go to get your writings?

00:27:06.000 I know you're putting

00:27:06.420 stuff up on

00:27:06.940 American Greatness.

00:27:07.760 Where can they go

00:27:08.440 to find your writings?

00:27:09.800 I had a piece up

00:27:12.040 on American Greatness

00:27:13.000 last week

00:27:13.860 called The Two Calls.

00:27:15.340 It's about

00:27:15.660 President Trump's

00:27:16.480 call to President Xi

00:27:17.940 and Prime Minister

00:27:19.080 Takeichi,

00:27:19.840 which I thought

00:27:20.320 was fantastic

00:27:21.080 by the president.

00:27:22.300 But American Greatness

00:27:23.440 is the only place.

00:27:24.280 I don't do social media

00:27:25.200 otherwise.

00:27:26.640 The irony of this

00:27:27.980 is that 80-some years

00:27:29.380 later,

00:27:29.960 the Japanese

00:27:30.500 are one of our

00:27:31.240 strategic partners

00:27:32.200 when our partner

00:27:33.480 in the 1930s

00:27:35.540 and 40s,

00:27:35.940 what we fought over

00:27:36.600 was mainland China.

00:27:37.380 Amazing.

00:27:39.920 How the world turns, sir.

00:27:41.320 Captain Fennel,

00:27:41.840 thank you so much.

00:27:43.460 Thank you.

00:27:44.320 Appreciate you.

00:27:46.420 I think I've got

00:27:47.220 to talk to my producer.

00:27:48.240 I've got to have

00:27:48.600 Captain Fennel on.

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00:29:14.840 Okay,

00:29:18.580 the geopolitics of today,

00:29:20.440 even more complicated

00:29:21.360 back then,

00:29:22.100 and of course,

00:29:22.700 it took,

00:29:23.160 what,

00:29:24.500 three and a half

00:29:25.060 or four years

00:29:25.700 of bloody fighting

00:29:26.520 from December 7th

00:29:27.860 of 1941

00:29:28.900 to,

00:29:30.400 what,

00:29:31.580 May,

00:29:31.940 and then August,

00:29:32.780 and I guess September

00:29:33.580 of 45 was the real surrender,

00:29:35.440 but it was over

00:29:36.540 by mid-August.

00:29:38.100 I'm going to spend

00:29:38.700 some more time this week

00:29:39.440 and go through this

00:29:40.040 because that night

00:29:41.320 at the White House

00:29:42.660 on the evening

00:29:43.500 of December 7th,

00:29:45.320 they were in

00:29:46.520 not good shape.

00:29:49.580 One of the biggest

00:29:50.580 priorities they had,

00:29:51.540 the priority was obviously

00:29:52.460 to mobilize immediately

00:29:53.540 and to find out

00:29:54.040 what happened

00:29:54.440 and get information,

00:29:55.380 but there was a massive

00:29:57.420 cover your ass 0.72

00:29:58.220 exercise too.

00:29:59.300 They were very afraid,

00:30:00.940 very concerned

00:30:01.620 that they were going

00:30:02.580 to be blamed

00:30:03.160 for all of this

00:30:04.940 and blamed for not

00:30:05.720 being ready

00:30:06.200 and blamed for having

00:30:06.940 the fleet out there

00:30:07.600 and then it became evident

00:30:08.620 that we actually had

00:30:09.940 some intelligence,

00:30:11.540 even the fingers

00:30:12.240 started to get pointed.

00:30:13.280 I think there were

00:30:14.240 seven inquiries

00:30:16.140 into Pearl Harbor.

00:30:17.200 Anyway,

00:30:17.440 I'll go through that

00:30:18.000 because it's quite,

00:30:19.720 it's very important

00:30:21.660 that people understand

00:30:22.580 what happened there

00:30:24.060 because it set the,

00:30:25.380 it set the framework

00:30:26.340 for the rest

00:30:26.860 of the 20th century

00:30:27.700 and for a lot

00:30:28.200 of the 21st century.

00:30:29.120 We're having these

00:30:29.500 huge fights in Ukraine

00:30:30.280 right now.

00:30:31.040 The bloodlands

00:30:32.020 of World War II,

00:30:32.920 actually the bloodlands

00:30:33.720 of world history,

00:30:34.480 but particularly

00:30:35.680 World War II.

00:30:36.940 Remember,

00:30:38.180 FDR,

00:30:39.020 the United States of America

00:30:39.980 did not declare war

00:30:41.460 on Nazi Germany

00:30:42.440 and this was in 1941.

00:30:45.460 Plenty of people

00:30:46.220 knew exactly

00:30:46.900 what was going on there

00:30:47.900 including the owners

00:30:48.800 of the New York Times,

00:30:49.920 a lot of politicians,

00:30:51.520 FDR's administration,

00:30:53.880 the military,

00:30:54.920 knew a lot was going on,

00:30:56.260 did not declare war on them.

00:30:58.080 Hitler made a bet, 0.97

00:30:59.040 made a gamble

00:30:59.640 as mostly he did

00:31:00.480 and declared war.

00:31:01.220 They declared war on us

00:31:02.100 I think three days later,

00:31:03.440 I think it was the 11th.

00:31:04.480 I'll refine my thinking here.

00:31:07.780 Next couple of days

00:31:08.380 we'll get into it.

00:31:09.080 It's important.

00:31:11.060 One of the most important

00:31:12.100 things we do

00:31:12.760 is how can we live

00:31:14.000 in a country

00:31:14.580 where a gold star mother,

00:31:16.120 a hero,

00:31:17.580 whose son gave his life

00:31:19.680 in defense of his country,

00:31:21.640 how is a gold star mother,

00:31:22.860 70 years old,

00:31:23.640 in ill health,

00:31:24.680 how is she in a

00:31:25.900 medium security prison,

00:31:27.540 a state prison

00:31:28.480 in Colorado

00:31:29.260 when everything's coming out today

00:31:31.760 about these machines?

00:31:32.560 Remember,

00:31:32.940 we're not machine guys.

00:31:34.120 We feel they stole it

00:31:35.200 the old-fashioned way

00:31:36.100 as far as mail-in ballots

00:31:38.300 and illegal people voting

00:31:39.740 and people on the voter rolls

00:31:40.940 are not supposed to be there,

00:31:41.860 all of it.

00:31:42.340 They gun-decked this thing 0.97

00:31:43.340 in all these states,

00:31:44.560 pretty evident about that,

00:31:45.660 very evident about that.

00:31:47.140 But the machines

00:31:48.100 are a festering sore

00:31:50.660 in this country.

00:31:52.020 Tina Peters was a hero.

00:31:53.300 She is a hero.

00:31:54.120 She remains a hero.

00:31:55.000 So the question is asked,

00:31:56.800 how is anybody free

00:31:57.980 if Tina Peters is not free?

00:31:59.500 Her lawyer, Peter Tickton.

00:32:01.460 Peter, you're on a couple weeks ago.

00:32:02.600 You talked about

00:32:03.120 a lot of these theories

00:32:03.820 and you actually put it in.

00:32:05.060 You and I think Stephanie Lambert,

00:32:06.780 who's your partner at this.

00:32:08.680 We're going to try

00:32:09.060 to get Stephanie

00:32:09.560 on the afternoon show

00:32:10.460 because I want to really

00:32:11.820 make this a priority for people.

00:32:13.660 You sent a letter

00:32:14.360 and you know the president

00:32:16.180 pretty well,

00:32:16.760 but you sent a letter to him

00:32:18.120 that outlined your thoughts

00:32:19.860 about this Tina Peters situation.

00:32:21.460 Can you walk our audience

00:32:22.200 through it, sir?

00:32:24.820 Okay, yes.

00:32:25.700 Well, you know,

00:32:26.380 it has a number of parts.

00:32:27.760 First of all,

00:32:28.220 I want to say

00:32:28.680 that Stephanie Lambert

00:32:29.740 is, help me write this.

00:32:32.340 It's my name on it,

00:32:34.160 but she has,

00:32:36.700 she is also an American hero.

00:32:39.960 They're trying to put her 0.96

00:32:40.820 in jail as well.

00:32:41.680 I'm not sure if you're,

00:32:42.560 I know you are aware.

00:32:43.740 What am I saying?

00:32:46.540 But so, you know,

00:32:47.960 basically the first thing

00:32:48.960 we wanted to do

00:32:49.700 in this letter

00:32:50.340 was address the issue

00:32:53.340 of the fact

00:32:56.440 that we're at war.

00:32:57.800 The fact is that

00:32:58.960 our 2020 election

00:33:01.920 was definitely

00:33:03.060 stolen from us.

00:33:05.960 And when you steal an election,

00:33:07.220 you don't steal an election,

00:33:08.260 you steal the country.

00:33:10.060 And that's why

00:33:10.680 this is the largest crime

00:33:13.360 that's ever occurred

00:33:14.200 in the United States

00:33:15.220 by far

00:33:16.060 because they didn't just steal

00:33:18.240 millions of dollars

00:33:19.800 or even, you know,

00:33:20.960 as we've been hearing lately,

00:33:22.420 billions of dollars

00:33:23.240 in some places.

00:33:24.220 But they stole the whole country

00:33:26.260 for four years.

00:33:27.780 And if they would have

00:33:28.840 had their way

00:33:29.440 had it not been

00:33:30.160 for a certain operation

00:33:31.200 that occurred,

00:33:32.600 they would have stolen it again

00:33:34.420 in 2024.

00:33:36.820 But that's a whole other story.

00:33:38.980 The point is that

00:33:40.320 we are showing evidence now.

00:33:42.640 You know,

00:33:42.840 here's one of the things

00:33:43.660 that happens.

00:33:44.180 When you cheat in an election

00:33:45.940 and you take over the country,

00:33:47.460 which they've done

00:33:49.580 in 72 countries,

00:33:51.120 the Venezuelans

00:33:52.060 are not only exporting

00:33:54.240 drugs into the United States,

00:33:57.300 but they're exporting

00:33:58.580 their ability

00:33:59.620 to use machines

00:34:01.200 to cheat in elections

00:34:02.180 to 72 different countries

00:34:04.200 around the world.

00:34:05.220 Fine.

00:34:05.420 But hang on a second.

00:34:06.280 We've got,

00:34:06.560 because we're really

00:34:07.100 pressed for time.

00:34:07.780 Let's say we stipulate

00:34:10.980 that that's all true.

00:34:12.240 How does that get Tina Peters? 1.00

00:34:13.720 Right now,

00:34:14.220 we have the commander-in-chief,

00:34:15.280 the most powerful man

00:34:16.060 in the world

00:34:16.440 that has a carrier battle group

00:34:18.480 and an amphibious ready group

00:34:20.080 with 14,000 sailors

00:34:21.400 off the coast of Venezuela,

00:34:22.980 even as we speak,

00:34:24.060 and they're pouring in.

00:34:25.120 Troops are pouring

00:34:25.740 into Puerto Rico every day.

00:34:27.700 Pete Hex is Secretary of War.

00:34:29.380 How does that help us get,

00:34:31.100 be specific,

00:34:32.060 how do we get Tina Peters? 0.99

00:34:33.440 Because right now,

00:34:34.180 Governor Polis

00:34:34.840 is going to run for president.

00:34:35.720 All right, I've got four ways

00:34:35.960 to get Tina Peters.

00:34:36.900 Hang on.

00:34:37.860 I hear Peter Tickton.

00:34:39.760 He's a flake.

00:34:41.120 Bannon can run his mouth

00:34:42.060 all he wants.

00:34:43.120 Trump's powerless.

00:34:44.180 I'm Gerald Polis.

00:34:45.140 I'm all-powerful.

00:34:46.620 And Tina Peters

00:34:47.260 is going to rot in prison.

00:34:48.340 I don't care what Tickton says.

00:34:49.820 I don't care what

00:34:50.300 Stephanie Lambert writes.

00:34:51.400 I don't care what Steve Bannon

00:34:52.280 yells in his microphone.

00:34:53.520 And I particularly don't care

00:34:54.620 about what the commander-in-chief

00:34:55.980 of the United States military,

00:34:57.720 Donald Trump,

00:34:58.460 who happens to be

00:35:00.080 the chief law enforcement

00:35:01.180 and chief magistrate

00:35:02.260 of this country

00:35:03.360 by the Constitution.

00:35:04.260 I don't care what

00:35:05.020 everyone's having to say.

00:35:06.040 She's going to rot in prison. 1.00

00:35:07.580 And if she dies in prison,

00:35:09.100 so be it.

00:35:10.200 What say you, sir?

00:35:12.440 What I say is these people,

00:35:14.940 such as, you know,

00:35:16.600 this man who happens

00:35:17.940 to be in office

00:35:18.660 because he's used

00:35:19.780 crooked election equipment

00:35:21.760 and is now the governor

00:35:24.620 of a state

00:35:25.260 that's been well overtaken

00:35:26.640 by the cabal, let's say.

00:35:28.980 You know, the fact of the matter

00:35:31.940 is that, as Obama said,

00:35:33.480 elections have the consequences.

00:35:36.600 And, you know,

00:35:37.280 the one thing you can't do

00:35:38.620 when you steal an election

00:35:39.660 is allow the other party

00:35:42.180 to ever get back in,

00:35:43.420 but their other party is back in.

00:35:46.280 And as a result,

00:35:47.500 we're coming to the,

00:35:48.520 we're getting to the bottom

00:35:49.540 of things that would be

00:35:50.820 absolutely suppressed

00:35:52.180 if we weren't.

00:35:53.980 I mentioned before to you,

00:35:55.820 Tina Peters is a person

00:35:57.120 who is trying to protect the truth.

00:35:58.980 She imaged the computer

00:36:00.740 to be able to save

00:36:02.060 the evidence of that.

00:36:04.560 It's the people

00:36:05.660 that are hiding the truth

00:36:07.320 that were in power

00:36:08.580 and still are in power

00:36:09.920 in Colorado.

00:36:12.700 Specifically,

00:36:13.640 we're seeking a pardon

00:36:14.880 from the president.

00:36:15.880 And if this governor says,

00:36:17.160 oh, we don't care what you say,

00:36:18.720 we're not going to honor that pardon,

00:36:20.640 then we take it to the court.

00:36:23.200 And there's a very fast process

00:36:24.980 that we can use

00:36:25.800 in the federal court

00:36:27.480 with the federal

00:36:29.100 Declaratory Relief Act

00:36:33.160 where we'll be able

00:36:34.400 to bring this thing on,

00:36:36.160 get it resolved quickly

00:36:37.280 with motions

00:36:37.940 for summary judgment.

00:36:39.000 There's no evidence

00:36:40.140 really in dispute.

00:36:41.540 We know exactly

00:36:42.360 what the law is.

00:36:44.360 And then this is going

00:36:45.240 to have to get resolved there

00:36:46.660 as to whether or not

00:36:48.040 the president has the power

00:36:49.480 to pardon offenses

00:36:51.780 which are state offenses.

00:36:54.360 And he does have that right

00:36:56.620 because, you know,

00:36:58.020 now we look at it

00:36:59.100 and he has the right

00:37:00.000 to pardon offenses

00:37:01.220 to the United States.

00:37:05.600 And when we look at that,

00:37:07.100 we all know

00:37:07.660 the United States,

00:37:08.340 that's the country.

00:37:09.580 It's an it.

00:37:11.460 It is our country,

00:37:13.340 the United States.

00:37:14.160 But before the Civil War,

00:37:17.560 at the time that the drafters

00:37:20.000 wrote the Constitution,

00:37:21.760 the United States

00:37:22.980 wasn't considered that way.

00:37:24.700 It was the United Countries.

00:37:26.620 And it was thought of

00:37:28.200 as those countries.

00:37:30.200 All the writing

00:37:31.060 in the Constitution

00:37:31.980 refers to them

00:37:34.160 not as an it,

00:37:35.800 but the United States

00:37:38.640 and their possessions.

00:37:40.180 The United States

00:37:41.280 and it's always a them

00:37:43.260 or those who are there.

00:37:45.200 It's always in the plural

00:37:46.380 because they're speaking

00:37:47.320 of the states.

00:37:48.720 So when the Constitution

00:37:49.680 said that the president

00:37:51.960 has the power

00:37:53.500 to pardon offenses

00:37:55.600 against the United States,

00:37:57.120 it wasn't as we now understand it.

00:37:59.720 Everyone he hears

00:38:00.560 about the United States

00:38:01.400 now thinks of the country.

00:38:03.280 Has, and by the way,

00:38:04.320 Ken Burns makes this point

00:38:05.380 when he did the series.

00:38:07.100 Real quickly,

00:38:08.140 do you,

00:38:08.480 has that ever been adjudicated

00:38:09.940 at the Supreme Court?

00:38:10.900 Your theory of this case

00:38:12.100 that he can actually

00:38:13.100 pardon at the state level,

00:38:15.200 has that ever been adjudicated

00:38:16.380 at the Supreme Court?

00:38:18.340 It's never been adjudicated anywhere.

00:38:22.160 It's never been a court action

00:38:23.600 on any level.

00:38:24.780 Peter, I just want to,

00:38:25.460 because you're a close person,

00:38:26.520 I just want to make sure.

00:38:27.800 Step one

00:38:28.620 is the president

00:38:29.680 to pardon Tina Peters,

00:38:31.140 right,

00:38:31.400 to give her a pardon.

00:38:32.680 That is the thing

00:38:33.640 that sets everything else in motion?

00:38:35.880 Right.

00:38:36.280 Then we give that

00:38:37.120 to the, you know,

00:38:38.120 to the Department of Corrections

00:38:39.400 and say release her immediately. 0.97

00:38:41.100 They say either yes

00:38:42.400 or they say no.

00:38:43.160 They say yes,

00:38:43.840 well, we don't have

00:38:44.440 a problem anymore.

00:38:46.020 They say no.

00:38:47.080 Then I jump into federal court

00:38:48.720 and I basically get an order

00:38:50.320 from the judge

00:38:51.040 that says release them

00:38:52.420 or the judge says,

00:38:53.780 nah, I don't think so.

00:38:55.000 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:38:56.080 You don't go

00:38:56.600 to the Bureau of Prisons.

00:38:57.840 You go to the Department

00:38:58.780 of Corrections in Colorado

00:38:59.820 and you've got a pardon letter

00:39:01.140 from the president

00:39:01.780 of these United States,

00:39:03.320 the chief magistrate

00:39:04.280 and the chief law enforcement officer.

00:39:05.640 You present it

00:39:06.700 to the Department of Corrections

00:39:08.120 and Governor Polis

00:39:09.020 and they either release her

00:39:11.720 or they say,

00:39:12.940 Tickton,

00:39:13.460 that pardon doesn't mean

00:39:15.080 anything here in Colorado

00:39:16.140 because we're a state.

00:39:17.720 That's a federal pardon.

00:39:19.480 Then what?

00:39:23.640 Then I jump into court

00:39:25.060 and then I ask a judge

00:39:26.760 and the judge says,

00:39:27.540 yeah, you're nay. 0.83

00:39:28.640 And then no matter

00:39:29.680 what the judge says,

00:39:30.480 we go to the Court of Appeals

00:39:32.940 and no matter

00:39:33.920 what the Court of Appeals says,

00:39:35.300 it's going to be

00:39:36.120 in the lap

00:39:36.620 of the Supreme Court

00:39:37.380 of the United States.

00:39:37.940 Because whoever loses,

00:39:39.080 if Colorado loses,

00:39:40.080 they'll go.

00:39:40.620 If you lose, you'll go.

00:39:41.620 So it's got to go

00:39:42.180 all the way up

00:39:42.780 to the Supreme Court, correct?

00:39:43.940 It's got to go all the way.

00:39:45.560 And there we've got

00:39:46.960 a majority

00:39:47.440 that are fundamentalists.

00:39:49.820 There we have a majority

00:39:50.840 that are going to say,

00:39:51.560 well, what were

00:39:52.060 the founders thinking

00:39:52.980 when they were thinking

00:39:54.500 about the United States

00:39:55.560 that he has the pardon power?

00:39:56.860 But there's also

00:39:57.460 other logical things

00:39:58.580 that don't make any sense

00:39:59.980 if he doesn't have

00:40:00.980 the power to pardon

00:40:03.020 state offenses,

00:40:04.020 especially when they have

00:40:06.160 to do with federal law,

00:40:08.520 okay, on a federal election.

00:40:12.280 That's where we have

00:40:13.940 more of an edge

00:40:14.920 than just the logic

00:40:16.020 of our argument,

00:40:16.720 although the logic

00:40:17.360 of our argument

00:40:18.040 is really not refutable.

00:40:20.020 Pretty compelling.

00:40:21.760 Peter, we've got to bounce.

00:40:23.660 We're going to have Stephanie

00:40:24.620 on this afternoon

00:40:25.180 or maybe you again

00:40:25.980 if we can.

00:40:26.880 Where do people go

00:40:27.820 to get all this information?

00:40:28.900 We've put the letter up,

00:40:30.000 but I want people

00:40:30.600 to find out more about you

00:40:31.680 and how you're fighting this

00:40:32.920 and the support

00:40:34.240 you guys need.

00:40:34.980 Where do they go?

00:40:36.740 Well, they go to,

00:40:37.800 in regard to Tina Peters,

00:40:39.680 go to tinapeters.us.

00:40:43.280 In regard to our law firm,

00:40:45.380 go to legalbrains.com.

00:40:49.040 It's easy to remember.

00:40:49.920 Peter, if you just,

00:40:50.920 I'm a lawyer legal brain.

00:40:52.640 And we'll put it all out.

00:40:54.460 Just real quickly,

00:40:55.480 what's the time frame of this?

00:40:57.020 Do you think a pardon

00:40:57.880 will actually be coming

00:40:58.620 for Tina before the holidays, sir?

00:41:03.180 I'm hoping yes.

00:41:04.680 Yeah.

00:41:05.040 I mean, you know,

00:41:05.740 look, President Trump,

00:41:08.520 you know,

00:41:09.640 I don't know anybody

00:41:11.140 who I respect more

00:41:12.060 or whose intellect

00:41:14.800 I respect more.

00:41:15.860 He not only gives things consideration,

00:41:17.840 but he considers the timing

00:41:19.100 of things as well.

00:41:21.000 I'm hoping that I get the pardon,

00:41:23.760 you know,

00:41:24.220 before Christmas, yes.

00:41:28.640 We've given him the form

00:41:29.880 that we think would be

00:41:30.960 the most appropriate.

00:41:31.820 Of course,

00:41:32.620 his legal team

00:41:33.420 may want to change it,

00:41:35.200 but in any event,

00:41:36.500 he's got it.

00:41:37.820 As soon as we have it,

00:41:39.100 we will be flying out

00:41:41.040 to Colorado

00:41:41.660 and hand-delivering it

00:41:42.880 and basically requiring

00:41:44.780 that she be released.

00:41:46.960 But there's other things

00:41:48.220 in the works as well.

00:41:49.540 I just want you to know

00:41:50.500 that Tina Peters

00:41:51.260 isn't relying entirely

00:41:52.480 on the pardon process,

00:41:53.860 but this is something

00:41:55.000 which could affect

00:41:56.020 many other issues

00:41:57.740 that are going on

00:41:58.780 in the United States.

00:41:59.920 There are many state actions.

00:42:02.460 Yeah.

00:42:02.720 There are a lot of other

00:42:03.600 irons in the fire,

00:42:04.540 Ed Martin and other people.

00:42:05.600 There are many other

00:42:06.300 irons in the fire.

00:42:07.340 Peter Tickton,

00:42:08.080 look forward to having you back on.

00:42:09.340 Everybody read this letter today.

00:42:10.680 Get up to speed on Peter

00:42:11.860 on this aspect,

00:42:13.320 but people should know

00:42:14.060 Peter and others

00:42:14.780 are working on many,

00:42:15.660 many other things

00:42:16.400 regarding Tina Peters.

00:42:18.120 Thank you.

00:42:18.580 Thank you so much, sir.

00:42:19.840 Appreciate you.

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00:44:34.100 Here's your host,

00:44:35.420 Stephen K.

00:44:36.160 Bannon.

00:44:37.900 A fascinating story.

00:44:39.440 Beatrice van Storch,

00:44:40.480 one of the leaders,

00:44:41.160 alternative for Deutschland,

00:44:42.640 is going to join us

00:44:43.240 in a moment.

00:44:43.660 She's also going to be back

00:44:44.580 and join me

00:44:45.120 at 6 o'clock tonight.

00:44:46.580 We're also going to have

00:44:47.160 Raymond Ibrahim

00:44:48.360 and his new book

00:44:49.320 about the warrior monks

00:44:51.080 that fought Islam

00:44:51.800 and his whole series

00:44:52.580 on that.

00:44:53.660 And it's pertinent

00:44:54.380 to what Beatrice

00:44:55.520 and company are fighting

00:44:56.660 in Germany right now,

00:44:58.660 the deep state

00:44:59.340 and the rise

00:45:00.200 of Islamism.

00:45:03.020 Cynthia Hughes,

00:45:03.980 Cynthia Hughes,

00:45:04.940 you've got a new group

00:45:06.120 that's fighting

00:45:06.560 against weaponization

00:45:07.660 of our government

00:45:09.260 against this.

00:45:09.940 What is it?

00:45:10.480 You're having

00:45:10.820 a gathering today.

00:45:13.260 Where do people go?

00:45:15.220 So we're here

00:45:16.020 in New York City today.

00:45:17.720 Steve,

00:45:18.220 as you know,

00:45:18.560 I founded

00:45:18.860 the Patriot Freedom Project.

00:45:20.320 We have a new cause

00:45:21.040 under it,

00:45:21.960 a weaponization watch.

00:45:23.100 I teamed up

00:45:23.520 with Doug Mackey

00:45:24.300 and we're fighting

00:45:26.260 for people

00:45:27.160 that are languishing

00:45:27.840 behind bars.

00:45:28.860 We're going to turn this

00:45:29.720 into the biggest

00:45:30.940 clemency project

00:45:31.820 in this country.

00:45:33.480 I'm in New York City

00:45:34.360 right now.

00:45:34.880 We have two women 0.59

00:45:35.640 sitting in a Brooklyn

00:45:36.400 prison right now,

00:45:37.400 Nicole Day-Doney

00:45:38.280 and Rachel Cherwitz.

00:45:40.580 I'm also here

00:45:41.760 with retired NYPD officer

00:45:44.900 Michael McMahon

00:45:45.620 who just recently

00:45:46.880 got a pardon

00:45:47.480 a few weeks ago

00:45:48.440 from the president.

00:45:50.080 I'll be sitting down

00:45:51.140 with Topeka Sam today

00:45:52.140 who has also received

00:45:53.920 a pardon from the president.

00:45:54.960 She has launched

00:45:55.520 a great project

00:45:56.240 to help women

00:45:56.900 who are languishing

00:45:58.520 behind bars

00:45:59.400 and need reentry.

00:46:01.640 Weaponization

00:46:02.120 under the Biden administration

00:46:03.600 was unprecedented

00:46:05.080 and the country

00:46:06.100 does not know

00:46:06.800 just how deep it runs

00:46:08.000 and how bad it is.

00:46:09.180 And there's a lot

00:46:10.200 of people

00:46:10.740 that are sitting

00:46:11.580 in prison

00:46:12.080 or facing

00:46:12.700 a very long sentence

00:46:14.160 like a young man 0.53

00:46:15.720 who's 28 years old

00:46:16.960 who was targeted

00:46:17.660 by the Biden administration.

00:46:19.240 Hang on a second.

00:46:20.380 We have to do

00:46:21.240 examples later.

00:46:22.220 Where do people go today?

00:46:23.180 You're having a gathering.

00:46:24.260 Where do people go?

00:46:24.960 Because we've got to bounce.

00:46:25.720 Where do people go?

00:46:26.320 Okay, we're in New York City

00:46:29.320 today.

00:46:29.780 You can go to

00:46:30.540 weaponizationwatch.com.

00:46:32.580 You can follow us

00:46:33.860 at RealPFP on Twitter

00:46:35.860 for the live stream.

00:46:37.620 Are you going to do something?

00:46:38.540 Are you going to do something?

00:46:39.300 Are you going to do something

00:46:41.140 in New York City

00:46:42.060 that people actually can go to?

00:46:43.480 Or is it all on live stream?

00:46:46.200 Yes.

00:46:46.820 If you go to

00:46:47.860 if, you know,

00:46:50.060 we're in New York City, Steve,

00:46:51.240 and you know,

00:46:51.800 it's a little crazy around here.

00:46:53.660 So we're not broadcasting

00:46:55.480 where the location is.

00:46:56.600 But if somebody wants to attend

00:46:58.180 between 12 and 4 p.m. today,

00:47:00.320 they can email us

00:47:01.220 at info at

00:47:02.500 PatriotFreedomProject.com

00:47:04.660 and we will give them access

00:47:06.100 for this free event.

00:47:08.260 And where do people go?

00:47:09.460 Social media,

00:47:10.080 where else do they go

00:47:10.720 to find out more about this?

00:47:11.760 It's a great effort.

00:47:12.740 Where do folks go?

00:47:14.500 You can go to X.

00:47:15.540 You can follow me,

00:47:16.280 RealPFP.

00:47:17.240 You can follow

00:47:17.760 Weaponization Watch.

00:47:19.660 And you can also find

00:47:21.140 all of our stories

00:47:22.140 and all the cases

00:47:22.900 we're working on

00:47:23.760 at WeaponizationWatch.com.

00:47:26.540 Perfect, ma'am.

00:47:27.280 Grace and Mo,

00:47:28.140 let's get it up

00:47:29.040 and let's get the live stream

00:47:30.040 so we can also can see it.

00:47:31.260 We'll share it up on our Rumble

00:47:32.220 and my personal account.

00:47:33.720 Cynthia Hughes,

00:47:34.380 we'll look forward

00:47:34.720 to talking this evening

00:47:35.460 about how to win today.

00:47:36.600 Thank you.

00:47:37.240 Thank you very much, Steve.

00:47:39.220 You talk about weaponization,

00:47:40.660 I don't think

00:47:41.020 there's a worse example

00:47:41.880 in the world.

00:47:42.480 The Washington Post,

00:47:43.340 it's tough to shock me,

00:47:45.120 but the Washington Post

00:47:45.940 is able to do it.

00:47:46.900 The article on Saturday,

00:47:48.480 can Germany stop extremism

00:47:50.360 by banning a far-right party

00:47:52.440 some want to try.

00:47:54.060 The sub-headline,

00:47:55.160 banning alternative

00:47:55.920 for Germany,

00:47:56.720 a far-right party,

00:47:57.920 might seem undemocratic,

00:47:59.720 but Germany's constitution

00:48:01.060 allows such prohibitions

00:48:02.800 to prevent a repeat

00:48:04.600 of Nazism.

00:48:06.220 Beatrice von Stork,

00:48:07.360 you're going to be

00:48:07.700 in the 6 o'clock show

00:48:08.660 with me,

00:48:09.780 with Raymond Ibrahim.

00:48:11.600 Give me a couple

00:48:12.140 of minutes here.

00:48:13.300 This is one of the most

00:48:14.160 outrageous things.

00:48:15.280 The article blew my head up,

00:48:16.800 but more importantly,

00:48:17.520 the article is what

00:48:18.200 the German authorities

00:48:19.180 are doing to,

00:48:21.080 let me repeat,

00:48:22.300 I think you're the largest

00:48:23.420 party in polling now

00:48:24.520 in Germany,

00:48:25.080 or the second largest.

00:48:26.600 It's not like it's a few

00:48:27.840 scattered wingnuts.

00:48:29.480 You represent a vast,

00:48:31.380 sizable amount

00:48:32.800 of the German people,

00:48:33.820 ma'am.

00:48:35.860 Yes, that's exactly

00:48:37.220 what it's all about.

00:48:38.240 We are polling at number one,

00:48:40.480 number two in all of Germany.

00:48:42.880 We are by far the biggest

00:48:44.300 party in the eastern part

00:48:46.200 of Germany.

00:48:47.420 We're leading there

00:48:48.380 by 10 points or something,

00:48:50.300 even more.

00:48:51.440 And so the only solution

00:48:52.820 they can think of

00:48:53.720 is ban the opposition party

00:48:55.320 to save democracy,

00:48:56.800 which is a joke.

00:48:58.160 And this really gets

00:48:59.460 even more dangerous

00:49:00.660 by the day

00:49:01.560 because they are losing

00:49:02.820 control,

00:49:03.560 they are losing power,

00:49:04.620 they are losing the consent

00:49:05.520 of the people.

00:49:06.620 They are not willing

00:49:07.320 to shift policy.

00:49:08.620 This is what they should do

00:49:09.720 if they want to fight us,

00:49:11.200 but they can't.

00:49:12.040 And so they are constantly

00:49:14.360 talking about,

00:49:16.040 you know,

00:49:16.540 banning AFD.

00:49:18.300 They come up with,

00:49:19.620 well,

00:49:20.080 there are ideas

00:49:21.660 or there are documents

00:49:22.820 which show

00:49:23.960 the Secret Service,

00:49:26.740 well,

00:49:27.060 the Secret Service

00:49:27.660 has come up

00:49:28.440 with some documents

00:49:29.820 and declaring us

00:49:31.520 as far-right extremists.

00:49:33.700 But we have to know

00:49:34.660 that the Secret Service

00:49:35.600 is the government.

00:49:36.800 So the government

00:49:37.420 is writing a paper

00:49:38.380 that the opposition party

00:49:40.080 is extremistic,

00:49:41.080 and this is why

00:49:41.960 they increased the talks

00:49:43.940 about banning us.

00:49:45.340 And as it was shown

00:49:46.660 in the Washington Post

00:49:47.720 article,

00:49:48.280 rightly,

00:49:49.020 that our president,

00:49:50.980 so the number one,

00:49:52.180 the head of the state,

00:49:53.600 gets into this business.

00:49:55.280 He is from

00:49:55.800 the Social Democratic Party.

00:49:57.460 They are polling

00:49:58.000 around 13,

00:49:59.300 14,

00:49:59.740 15%

00:50:00.420 at the very moment.

00:50:01.720 So 10 points

00:50:03.380 behind AFD.

00:50:04.960 And these little guys,

00:50:05.960 they try to solve

00:50:07.520 their political problems

00:50:08.600 by banning us.

00:50:09.480 So that's really

00:50:10.840 anti-democratic.

00:50:11.800 And I think

00:50:12.260 the most important point

00:50:13.340 about all this is

00:50:14.240 if that's possible

00:50:15.260 in Germany,

00:50:15.800 that's going to be

00:50:16.600 possible everywhere.

00:50:18.060 We cannot point

00:50:18.840 to Turkey,

00:50:19.780 to Russia,

00:50:20.300 to any other

00:50:21.020 totalitarian regime

00:50:22.620 when banning

00:50:24.660 the opposition party

00:50:25.640 is possible

00:50:26.780 in a Western democracy.

00:50:28.500 And this is why

00:50:29.140 we lean out.

00:50:30.760 This is why

00:50:31.380 we think

00:50:32.620 it is very important

00:50:33.720 to raise this issue

00:50:34.920 and to make

00:50:36.260 Americans aware

00:50:37.280 that this is also

00:50:38.260 not in your interest.

00:50:39.480 It is very much

00:50:40.340 against everything

00:50:41.520 what you're fighting for

00:50:43.460 and when it comes

00:50:44.340 to the national security

00:50:45.420 strategy,

00:50:47.120 which has just been published.

00:50:48.580 I think it's rightfully

00:50:49.340 pointing out

00:50:49.920 to the point

00:50:50.500 that American

00:50:52.420 needs strong allies.

00:50:54.020 We're going to get

00:50:54.840 into all that

00:50:55.340 at 6 o'clock.

00:50:56.300 Real quickly,

00:50:57.460 under a minute,

00:50:58.300 just tell me,

00:50:59.160 what is the extremist idea

00:51:01.160 that they hate the most?

00:51:03.220 Because I keep seeing

00:51:03.920 you guys saying,

00:51:04.560 hey,

00:51:04.700 we want to turn

00:51:05.340 sovereignty to the people,

00:51:06.580 to the German people.

00:51:07.520 Why do they call you extremists?

00:51:09.860 Give me 60 seconds on it.

00:51:12.680 So first,

00:51:13.640 we want to secure

00:51:14.400 our borders.

00:51:15.540 Second,

00:51:16.040 we want to stop

00:51:17.540 Islamization

00:51:18.340 in our country.

00:51:19.500 More precise,

00:51:20.500 we want to roll it back.

00:51:21.780 We do not want

00:51:22.540 to hand over

00:51:23.080 our country

00:51:23.620 to a different culture.

00:51:26.960 And third,

00:51:27.620 we are very much

00:51:29.080 in favor of free speech.

00:51:30.380 We do not think

00:51:31.220 that censorship

00:51:31.980 is a way

00:51:33.140 which should be allowed.

00:51:35.420 And they are pushing

00:51:36.340 censorship

00:51:36.980 always forward.

00:51:38.820 So this is,

00:51:39.580 I would say,

00:51:40.040 these are the three points.

00:51:42.000 Beatrice,

00:51:42.560 at 6 o'clock tonight,

00:51:43.600 we're going to go

00:51:44.000 through all of it.

00:51:44.740 We have Raymond Ibrahim,

00:51:46.820 the author of this

00:51:47.540 great three-part,

00:51:48.560 three-book series

00:51:49.680 on Islamists

00:51:51.540 in the West

00:51:52.840 and how we've

00:51:53.740 defeated it

00:51:54.480 as an inspiration

00:51:56.220 for Christmas.

00:51:57.000 Beatrice,

00:51:57.360 thank you so much.

00:51:58.120 We'll see you back here

00:51:58.760 at 6 p.m.

00:52:00.260 Charlie Kirk's,

00:52:01.720 the Charlie Kirk show

00:52:02.820 is up next

00:52:03.840 with Andrew Kovic.

00:52:06.640 Poso's after that,

00:52:08.060 Gruber's after that,

00:52:09.340 Boling's after that,

00:52:10.220 and at 5 o'clock

00:52:10.920 from 5 to 7,

00:52:11.940 you're going to be

00:52:12.380 back here.

00:52:14.260 We're going to be

00:52:14.900 on fire this afternoon.

00:52:16.820 Where?

00:52:17.640 In the world.

00:52:18.740 We'll see you then.

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Episode 4981： Remembering Pearl Harbor 84 years Ago; Tina Peters Letter To President Trump

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