Episode 5079： Tina Peters Assaulted And Charged With Felony; Controversial AI Policy
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On this episode of the show, we discuss the current events in the world of politics and world affairs. What s going on in Davos? Why is it so important to have allies as allies and partners in an alliance? What does it mean to have long-standing allies like Denmark, Russia, China, and the United States as allies? And is it possible that the insanity of this moment might actually be getting to some of the people who could stop this president from becoming the next president?
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fund managers for the florida pension funds which as you know is enormous and he said hey from now
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on you're not going to just give your vote to larry fink we're going to vote that from the state of
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florida that was a shocker yeah i think he's the first governor to step up and said we're just not
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going to we're not giving our proxy to larry fink right we're going to actually vote i the governor
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of florida don't forget uh jimmy patronus was the chief financial officer of the state of florida
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he's now a congressman uh patronus but he was on board with with the santa saying black rock
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they're evil vanguard black rock and one or two in state street the three biggest the three biggest
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companies that control trillions not billions trillions of americans pension money are totally
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invested in dei climate change and other woke nonsense man i hope this thing i hope i hope we
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get eight or 16 more years of of of either marco or uh or or vance or pete hexath or steve bannon
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whoever it is a maga right in america first person we need oh whoa dude dude i gotta follow you in the
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afternoon i can't be i can't be wasting time over 1600 pennsylvania avenue eric one more time where do
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people i love the concept of the edge and nobody's better uh to do it than you that you thrive on
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do people get it just go to youtube and type in eric bowling in the edge and and it's off the
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chart steve it's we hit a nerve we hit a nerve or a vein if you want to call it that and people are
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really responding to i appreciate that that shout out you are you sir are a great uh person to agree
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representative of what the edge is i'm i'm signing i'm signing up today i want to watch it eric bowling
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we love you love following you take care love you too brother see you again soon
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you know we do have posos in route uh the secretary treasury's over there we're going to try to
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score a interview with uh scott tomorrow i think it's too late now posos in route i think uh our man
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uh brian glenn is there so a lot going on in um a lot going on in davos what i want to do now
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is bring the show i'm going to do the cold open bring the show in uh i think we're gonna have peter
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uh a tina peters lawyer there's been a uh event around an issue around tina peters i want to get
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to but there's a lot going on joe allen's going to join me here's what let's do let's do the cold
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open and then we'll have the open of the war let's hit it alliances endure because they're built on
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respect and partnership not pressure that is why i said the use of tariffs against allies
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is completely wrong it is not the right way to resolve differences within an alliance
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honestly they must make wake up every day and wonder if this is the reality that they're living
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in or if they just are living in the upside down or something right now because none of this makes
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any sense back here at home it appears the insanity and frankly the danger of this moment
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might actually be getting to some of the people who could stop this president
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republicans on capitol hill i think donald trump's only doctrine is power i think he uh wants to
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dominate people talk about him as being transactional he's not transactional he wants every transaction to
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end with you admitting that he is more powerful than you and can do what he wants uh and the greenland
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example is is a perfect illustration of this he could have the united states can do anything it wants
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to do in greenland in terms of protecting it from russia or china or any other potential threat
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with the full cooperation of long-standing and reliable allies like denmark he doesn't want that
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he wants to take it he wants to commit an act of territorial aggression against an american ally so
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for him i just think it's about he wants to be world emperor uh and be able to basically boss around
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every country that is willing to be bossed around of course he's not in the business of bossing around
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tough countries like vladimir putin's russia or xi jinping's china to ask if that is just an admission
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from the administration that their agents their federal officers can do whatever they want can just
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do whatever they want when jd van said they have absolute immunity is that them saying get in our way and
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if we kill you not our problem well i mean if you're looking at the totality let's go back to
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totality of other circumstances including the january 6 pardons including many other pardons
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from trump this is we're looking at a pattern and the pattern is if you are a trump ally if you're doing
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what trump asks then the law doesn't apply to you if you're a trump enemy a trump opponent or even if he
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just perceives you as an opponent then he's going to wield the full power of the government against you
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in often in lawless ways this is a pattern from day one and i think it's a mistake to just look at
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this one shooting and try uh just look at this one shooting in isolation we have to look at this in
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context and the context is very clear it's impunity for his allies and it is punishment for his opponents
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help me understand what exactly is going on in the white house and why the president thought it was a
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good idea or somehow justifiable to send a text message to norway um saying that because they
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hurt his feelings he needs denmark to give him greenland i think on some uh in some way katie we
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shouldn't be surprised that this is the way the president communicated to another foreign leader
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given the fact that the president has been very public about the fact that he wants greenland
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he his advisors uh one of his top deputy chiefs of staff stephen miller have said over and over again
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that this is what they want that the u.s they have claimed that the u.s has a right to claim greenland
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questioning denmark's right and sovereignty and and questioning greenland's sovereignty and saying
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essentially that if the u.s military can take control of greenland then it should be the united
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states uh and that this is essentially what the president is prepared to do to make sure that it
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happens and so over the weekend an escalation where the president uh posted on true social that he was
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going to enact 10 percent tariffs on denmark and seven other european countries these are allies of the
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united states uh uh at 10 percent tariff on goods that they're sending to the u.s and then that would
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escalate to 25 percent come june uh it to the uh if they do not agree and if they do not work with the
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u.s on supposedly purchasing greenland as you laid out these countries are not interested in that at all
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i mean denmark and norway and all the other european allies have made very clear that this is not
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something that is on the table and that it would be dangerous and that it could potentially um break
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apart nato so what do you advise people given the threats that that we they're facing now to protest
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given that a woman was shot and killed given that they're being pepper sprayed in the face they're
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being physically taken from their cars they're being injured in some cases detained unlawfully
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how do you advise people to practice this right as mlk put it the greatness of america is the right to
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protest for right right i think that's an important conversation to have today and i think that
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there's going to be different levels for people to engage themselves and some people like dr king
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were willing to give their life for the ultimate struggles of the community and which she did and
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so in some cases you should not hamper the individuals from carrying out their forces and
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videotaping individuals from a distance is not a problem you can record them there is no law that
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says you cannot record them you should be a reasonable distance away and if they instruct you to move
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away continue to record and move away in that instance but is our right under the constitution
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of protest and this sort of conversation around protesting not being american isn't consistent with
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the history of our country or consistent with the teachings of dr king his last book was on community
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of chaos and this chaos this fear-driven community that we're doing in minnesota in minneapolis is
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exactly what will drive us to our end rather than trying to neutralize sending more officers to this place
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does not solve the problem it just exacerbates it the picture to make sure it's you we're not
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sure okay is that your account i refuse to answer questions without my lawyer present so i really
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don't know how to answer that question either like i said this is freedom of speech this is america right
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and i agree with you 100 we're just trying to see if it's you because we're not talking to the right
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person we want to go see who the right person is okay how can i help you so pretty much it's just a
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statement that was made as far as uh you know uh the guy who consistently calls for the death of
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all palestinians tried to shut down a theater for showing a movie that hurt his feelings and refuses to
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stand up for the lgbtq community in any way even leaves the room when they vote and on related matters
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wants you to know that you are all welcome clown face clown face clown face three days ago
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i'm not going to answer whether that's me or not okay the concerning part and not concerning
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for the person who's posting it when we're just trying to prevent somebody else getting
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agitated or or or agreeing with the statement we're not saying it's true or not
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understood that guy who consistently calls for the death of all palestinians
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that can probably incite somebody to do something radical that's all we're here to talk about
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and we wanted to get your side of it was you that posted that to i would think to refrain from
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posting things like that because that could get something i appreciate your concern i appreciate
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you coming out here okay that's it that is it i'm going to maintain my uh my amendment rights to uh
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not answer the question about whether that's right i hope that's understanding
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thank you as well you as well thank you take care
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had
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a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go
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to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience
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ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
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this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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monday 19 january year of our lord 2026 martin luther king day right there you see in miami they're
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going door to door on your facebook post pretty scary i'll tell you what's scary is what's happening
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and really scary is what's happening in colorado peter ticton the lead lawyer for tina peters joins us
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there's all types of reports coming out uh twit tweets coming out is tina peters been assaulted in
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prison and was she charged with a felony for getting assaulted sir can you clear it out clear it up for us
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yeah yeah uh you know normally i i like to reach you with a nice smile but this it's kind of hard to
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smile right now uh yeah she uh she basically went into a closet where it's like a water closet where
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she had to fill a container with some water and uh a 20 year old inmate came in behind her and started
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to attack her from behind she uh pushed this person out of the way and was defending herself the part
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where she was defending herself was seen so they're basically charging her they put her in the hole
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for an undetermined amount of time you know it's not like they're polite and kind and and and and say
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you have to be here for three days or one day or whatever so we don't know how long she's going to be
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there last time they put her in there they put her in for 15 days uh supposedly for her own safety and then they
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returned her to a cell uh so there was no you know it kind of proved that it was just nonsense and they
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didn't need to put her in there but this is really alarming okay because what's going on there now we've
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got the governor finally agreeing that the sentence that tina peters received was was harsh it was of course
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of course it was harsh it was it was completely unreasonable and when now we have three judges of
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the court of appeals looking like they very much agree with that issue that that the the sentence is
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not even a legal sentence and so they uh you know they're they're on the verge of reversing some of these
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charges and reversing or some of the convictions and some of the charges and and and the the sentencing
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at the same time we've got judge polis finally saying that it's too harsh and then we've got the
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real criminals we've got weiser and and griswold uh janna griswold who and i say she's a criminal
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i i'm they admit that they did what they did they admit that uh she was responsible for going into 20
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uh okay going into 62 counties and basically deleting the information which is contrary to
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federal law she could get a year for each one of those so jenna griswold is truly a criminal and and
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what she's doing is she's putting all of the emphasis on tina peters for basically saving the evidence
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and you know now so we've got a little bit of a divergence between jenna griswold and weiser who
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are basically saying keep her in prison the real criminals saying keep the the non-criminal in
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prison while uh governor polis is saying hey i'm the governor polis you want to make these decisions
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you run for governor yeah thank god peter meanwhile so what's going on then all of a sudden somebody
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attacks her pp in prison i don't have any hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on we're gonna get to
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take a short break peter tickton the lead counsel for tina peters tina peters was attacked and then
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okay um we're kind of trying to reboot peter tickton and and see if we can get a a clearer signal um
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long story short peter tina peters was attacked
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she um they're accusing her of the attack they put her in what they call the hole or the special housing
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unit the shoe s-h-u which is solitary confinement and um we're gonna get to the bottom of all this
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as as peter laid out uh jenna griswold the secretary of state weiser i think the attorney general they're
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arguing she should serve to the end of her term even polis is getting weak on that by commuting
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the sentence and you have an appellate court so peter tickton and the legal team
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of pat mcsweeney and all of our work in this thing non-stop we have peter just can you just give it to
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us one more time as p tina was attacked when she tried to fight off the inmate of this 20 and they
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put her and they unprovoked and they put tina in the shoe in the in the solitary and this is what i
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don't understand and they've have they charged tina with the assault that's my understanding is they are
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charging her with the with a felony assault yes
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you you got a federal pardon from the president is there anything i understand polis is thinking
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about a commutation you got this panel that's reviewing it it's a legal process but is there
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anything the president's given you through you working with him a federal pardon understand they
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got to argue that up through the courts of whether whether it applies here or not but
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when you have a 17 72 year old gold star mother who has cancer who's now attacked in this violent
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women's prison they put in solitary and they charge her with the assault is there anything that people
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on the outside can do here sir well i i i think just being out in the public and showing putting
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signing a light on this is is really important this is where the function of of what you do really
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counts uh so you know i i'm not sure where where you heard what you heard and where i got cut off so
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let me just put it this way we we know that jenna griswold is literally a criminal okay there's no
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question about it she admits to what she's doing they're not even trying to hide the fact that they
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installed the trusted build and wiped out all the data out of all of the dominion machines that were
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in 62 counties she's guilty of of a criminal offense that's good for one year of imprisonment
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62 times over she's she could be sentenced to 62 years for what she's done and don't ask me why the
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department of justice has not gone after her and not charged her yet but there's a diversion so in order
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her okay so you know it's her her offense against tina peters is her best defense and so as long as
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she can keep for some reason she thinks in her head i don't ask me how that as long as she keeps tina
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peters in prison somehow she's safe and mr weiser is safe uh but the fact of the matter is is
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that the wrong people are in prison so she wants them to stay in she's been very vocal vocal by she
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i mean jana griswold is is very vocal on the fact that tina peters needs to stay in prison the governor
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is saying hey look if you want to be the governor you know run for governor right now i'm the governor
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i have to make these decisions and i think the sentence was too harsh so then all of a sudden out of the
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the blue we have a 20 year old that attacks her completely unprovoked i mean tina peters was in
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in this water closet filling up something with water you know minding her own business and all
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of a sudden coming this woman comes behind her and starts attacking her and to defend herself she turns
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around and and basically deals with the situation and you're right she's the one that gets charged
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she's so why is that to interfere with the the the uh the governor giving her clemency is is that the
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purpose of this is this what we're seeing in real life playing out that somebody in that prison or is
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just a crazy person in prison that's just attacking her for no reason whatsoever one way or the other
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they they that they threw her in the hole with nothing to read nothing to do just you know like
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really in the hole uh you know this this is this is just amazing yeah yeah solitary is to break you
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psychologically it's a tough thing well there are people that think that they want to kill her in
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prison peter where do people go to find out more the yeah where do they go to get more information
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and to support you and your efforts to free tina peters what's the website it's tina peters dot us
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okay perfect please uh do you have a do you have social media do you do you have do you have uh tina
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peters us when everybody go there do you have a individual twitter account we can send people to
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uh well you can always go to uh at peter tickton
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but uh and and my office is at legal brains dot com so uh okay but meanwhile i think that this is
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really part of what's going on in america this is part of the the whole cabal and it's unwinding for
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them but they're still fighting hard and they still think that they're going to prevail and that really
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all boils down to what's happening the one the one pivotal issue that i keep saying is the one pivotal
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issue is whether or not we have paper ballots hand counted and one day would come november of this
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year if the machines are in play we lose everything there are 22 senators that are up for bids and 22
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republican senators that are up for election and if those machines are in play we're going to lose the
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senate we're going to lose the house we're going to lose our president we're going to lose our vice
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i could not agree with you more sir thank you thank you sir and we're not doing anything about
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it basically the main justice i have no idea what main justice is doing sending people around to
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hassle people about their facebook page certainly not we're not seeing any effort on this whatsoever
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strongly worded letters uh today we had on the chairman of the uh armed services committee brian
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mass congressman from florida joe allen joins us uh joe we're gonna have the daily signal reporter here
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in a moment but you see from mast the most hotly contested issue kind of behind the scenes it's now
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bubbling to the surface but the biggest issue people are fighting for behind the scenes is this issue of
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artificial intelligence chips who gets them who doesn't uh set the framework here before i bring
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well steve you've got a really dissonant a dissonant mood here in washington dc i mean as
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we'll soon hear from elizabeth mitchell there are just so many different perspectives and approaches to
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this but the main division i would say is between the accelerationist camp who want to use artificial
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intelligence they say to improve people's lives build the economy but you have all of these other
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i think far more sensible perspectives on what are the dangers what are the downsides
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what are we trading for this grand ai revolution so on the note of the chips on the exports the overwatch
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act which is really uh among the most sensible bills to come up on this the gain act was good
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restrict act was good but the overwatch act simply calls for restrictions on any chips that are going
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out to adversaries they want congressional oversight just like they do with any other military components
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on any ai capable chips going to adversaries such as china as it's been pointed out you had a craze
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right-wing influencer campaign in which people who never cared about chips or ai or exports suddenly
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gained an interest and in very similar language began to call this some sort of boon for china or some
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means of subverting the president's power to export if the audience wants to read that it is an excellent
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piece put out by model republic uh in association with midas touch by tyler johnston a fantastic look at
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this synthetic influencer operation but the nuts and bolts steve the nuts and bolts is just simply this
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if we are in some kind of existential race against china as people like david sachs have claimed then we have
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absolutely no interest whatsoever whether it's military or commercial uses we have no interest in
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sending chips to china the only people who would benefit aside from the chinese themselves would be
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nvidia and also anyone pushing for ai acceleration against china it then justifies the acceleration it
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justifies the reckless development and rampant deployment of ais that most people really don't want to begin with
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it is as we say about all ai and and maybe guardrails or whatever the sine qua non the thing you have to
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do first is a complete shutdown of china and the entire ecosystem of course it's no sale whatsoever of any
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chips i don't want to hear that oh we want to get them addicted to our system that's just the bald-faced lie
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put out by nvidia and jensen wong is a influence peddler for for the chinese communist party it's obvious he
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keeps saying it doesn't matter who wins we'll all share it together that's a lie the ccp is in a
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take no prisoners game but i mean they shouldn't have any students over here not just 600 000 we
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shouldn't have 350 send them all home they shouldn't get any h1b visas none how about this zero they
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shouldn't be at any weapons labs or national labs a chinese national getting trained they should but not be
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at any of the companies of david sacks and mark andres and these guys um in silicon valley sequoia
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for decades there should be no equity no cash no american pension funds no debt zero the entire
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ecosystem around the chinese communist party in all technology should be stopped at zero
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this is the lie that oh if you do this thing and stop it you're helping the chinese you're
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shutting down the chinese and we're not shutting them down enough
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this is this is purely in the interest the economic self-interest of nvidia and other players
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that andresen this crowd own obvious everything they do is in their own economic interest this is why
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and want to thank peter tickton for all the work he's doing this tina peter situation a bunch of people
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in the war room engine room have been texting me and and coming to me and saying hey they don't
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want tina to get out of there alive because of what she knows i'm telling you this thing about an
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attack and assault and they're charging her with a felony or whatever we got we got to get to the
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bottom of all this also joe did mention my decision remember they're they're kind of a uh they're a left
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wing attack media site but they do on occasions do some stuff this is what i'm saying you're gonna have
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to look at both the left and the right on this situation to get to the bottom of it they've got a
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pretty good assessment but i want to keep everybody's mind clear we got to get to the bottom
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of this situation about chip exports and artificial intelligence i say this again
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if you shut down the ecosystem because it is an ecosystem that makes them competitive
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in artificial intelligence the students at the universities the h1b visas the training at the
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national labs the trainings with the companies the debt and equity the pension fund money
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and particularly the shipment of any chip of any quality if the if the if the rationale is oh
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well we got to give them addicted to our chips because and then what don't then let them go build
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their own ecosystem and see how close they come to competition they won't they will fade like the
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morning dew elizabeth mitchell has written all about this at the daily signal it's really an incredible
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piece i want grace and mo elizabeth and the team here to push it out elizabeth walker steward you're
00:33:53.820
talking about this battle behind the scenes and the most important fight going on in washington dc man
00:34:00.940
it's great to see you steve so what we have here is as you've said some administration sources said
00:34:06.380
people close to the administration all agree that ai is one of the most controversial issues right now
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in the trump administration so we have four coalitions that are competing here for the president's
00:34:17.500
attention we have one we have the tech accelerationists those are big tech people you've been talking about
00:34:22.940
mark andreessen of andreessen horowitz um he has some influence in the administration people like
00:34:27.900
elon musk david sacks you're sure i'm krishnan that's the big tech accelerationist crowd then we
00:34:33.500
have three other coalitions who are united against the tech accelerationist that's the populist coalition
00:34:39.020
the national security coalition which is concerned about china populist coalition is concerned about jobs
00:34:43.820
and then the family coalition which is concerned about the suicides we're seeing ai convincing kids
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online concerned about the deep fake porn we're seeing being made by ai that's a danger to kids
00:34:54.540
and so these coalitions are all trying to figure out where to go on ai policy it's a regularly a
00:35:00.700
relatively new issue where the right doesn't have a unified stance yet and there's a lot of different
00:35:10.220
how does this one of these get into because behind the scenes you did great reporting i love the way you
00:35:14.300
broke it down to different coalitions because this thing's just kind of forming you have different people
00:35:18.140
working with different groups when do you think this breaks through and becomes a story that
00:35:24.380
everybody's focused on because right below the surface i tell people it's by far the most vicious and
00:35:31.340
probably important fight i've seen in washington ever uh it's it's galvanized everybody and as you
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mentioned the accelerationists they happen to be some of the wealthiest people in the world they've got
00:35:42.860
the biggest lobbyist firms the biggest crisis communication the biggest law firms and this is a
00:35:47.340
take no prisoners fight when do you actually think given your reporting this breaks through
00:35:52.220
and becomes more of a popular thing that you hear more people talk about more influencers
00:35:57.100
it's on more of the podcast fox news is covering it because they've been essentially crickets when
00:36:01.820
do you think that happens well when i talked to joe allen about this he said that currently ai doesn't
00:36:08.540
have the capacity to replace a large number of jobs but that very likely is in the future and it's
00:36:14.540
something that we're not seeing a lot of preparation for or a lot of preparation for how to prevent that
00:36:20.060
and so i think that as we inch closer and closer to more people being replaced by ai more people are
00:36:25.660
going to wake up and say hey i'm about to lose my job because of ai and i want the administration i want
00:36:30.860
congress the government to do something about this
00:36:35.420
when he's talking about the the coalitions talk to me about the family coalition about the ones really
00:36:40.300
concerned about the about the uh about the suicides etc what because you've got the populace obviously
00:36:46.540
we're always fighting against the tech oligarchs national security center we had masked on this
00:36:50.940
morning i thought he made a very coherent argument although he's being he's being painted as a ccp factotum
00:36:57.980
for trying to shut it down but this family is a new one we've had some of the people on before
00:37:02.780
that have had children that have died about this but is this a traditional are you seeing the traditional
00:37:07.820
pro-life groups coming into this or what are you seeing right now in this kind of family coalition
00:37:14.540
yeah it's these traditional conservative groups people like michael toscano over at the institute
00:37:18.860
for family studies daniel cochran heritage foundation who have talked to these families who have had
00:37:23.900
children take their own lives due to ai convincing them to do so we have character ai being sued for this
00:37:30.300
other incidents of similar things happening and there's laws that have taken been taken up across the
00:37:35.900
country places like texas and new york that would limit dangerous ai and children situations from
00:37:42.060
happening making sure that ai can't make child porn that ai can't convince kids to commit suicide
00:37:47.740
different restrictions like this and these restrictions have even in some cases been opposed
00:37:52.540
by big tech mark andrewson has a million multi-million dollar pack leading the future which is opposing
00:37:59.580
state ai laws and supporting candidates that support no restrictions on ai and so it's a really
00:38:04.620
big battle that's happening here to protect kids on the pro-family side and so i think we can hear a
00:38:10.060
lot more of that and i think that that is an argument that the whole country would be really sympathetic
00:38:13.900
to which is that our kids we've seen how kids have been endangered and harmed by social media due to the
00:38:19.580
rise of social media over the past several years and then now we're likely to see a very similar situation
00:38:24.780
that's already begun with ai well uh elizabeth where do folks what's your social media and where do
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folks get you over daily signal i tell people put daily signal on your daily media diet because you
00:38:37.980
guys have rob blue and you guys over there have great stuff where do folks go to get you and your writing
00:38:44.140
thanks you can follow me on x at via liz mitchell and read my reporting at dailysignal.org
00:38:49.420
thank you man appreciate you great article thank you so much work it's like citizens free press you
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got gateway pundit all the great ones make sure you add daily signal to that like national pulse these
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i want to pull back for a second because i want to because the boar and posse has clearly been so
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important in this fight so far with the ai embassy bill it is we finish every episode of the war room
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this was the mercury program became the apollo program this is the beginning of the of the space
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race in america competing with the russians getting there it's in our blood to not just be competitive
00:39:41.420
but president trump says this over and over again and he posits this that we have to be the leaders
00:39:46.460
in this technology so i want to make sure people understand that we're not luddites but you have
00:39:52.220
accelerationists and then you have other people saying hey my point about not falling behind the
00:39:57.900
chinese communist party because i agree we cannot fall behind the chinese communist party but this whole
00:40:02.140
situation right now we have to think this through with clarity why are the accelerationists the ones that
00:40:10.300
that are pushing at the same time to make sure the chinese communist party have an ecosystem because
00:40:15.500
this is not any one thing that makes you competitive this like it was not any one thing that did mercury
00:40:21.260
you have as lena khan describes it you have to have kind of an industry ecosystem with different
00:40:26.140
pieces to it training knowledge capital debt inequity uh chips manufacturing processes that's what exists
00:40:34.780
here and so why are the accelerationists which are the ones who want to put you know all gas no brake
00:40:40.940
why are they the ones that also at the same time are pushing us to essentially arm our enemy in this
00:40:48.220
which we agree is the most vital race of all sir
00:40:57.020
to just basically instill american norms uh even in china in china's hardware and lure them into
00:41:05.900
becoming dependent now if that's the honest response from those promoting this then i think
00:41:11.980
that's just foolish on its face clearly if we feed them h 200s or any chips we're only increasing their
00:41:20.700
capacity both for training and for inference uh the other motivations uh these are only speculative
00:41:28.300
but i think they're probably more realistic than what they're saying would be that they want more
00:41:33.740
money you would have nvidia that would love to see the chinese market be opened up to them
00:41:39.900
to not only have their chips over there but to rake in cash and then if you got a little bit more
00:41:45.580
more conspiratorial or at least imagining a strategy that's unspoken it would simply be to
00:41:52.220
continue this race and provide justification for the development and deployment here in america by
00:41:59.020
pointing to china constantly as the competitor that we need to stay ahead of i mean in reality china
00:42:05.180
is the closest competitor that we have but it's also known that right now they're struggling to
00:42:11.660
train new models because of all of the compute they use for inference meaning that they already
00:42:17.580
are lacking in enough compute to really keep pace with america and when you look at their indigenous
00:42:24.700
operation with huawei being the lead producing the ascend chips it is a tiny tiny fraction of what nvidia
00:42:32.620
produces and a tiny fraction of the chips used for compute nvidia chips are something like 60
00:42:40.220
percent worldwide ascend chips are maybe one or two percent some tiny fraction so to go back around
00:42:48.380
to that question why would they want to do it well if you take them at their word it's a foolish quest
00:42:53.820
to get china addicted to our hardware but i think that uh the speculation that it's for profit and for
00:43:01.180
justification to acceleration i i would love to ask david sacks in person that question if he would be
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the second hour of the show is going to be wild i'm i've got joanne fleming from uh grassroots america
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traveling we're trying to get you out to see as many people as possible in the hinterland and make sure
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that people actually get up to speed on everything that's happening not just an artificial intelligence but
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in transhumanism you're gonna be covering though while you're on the road davos because there's a
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lot going on one of the things in davos the davos man larry fink of these guys it's ai overhang it's
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it's the capacity or capabilities of ai they're not being used they're saying people only using 10
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percent they're afraid that this may cause the bubble uh they're also afraid that you know people
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are just not going to get up to speed and fall in love with ai as quickly as possible give me a
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minute or two on your thoughts of what's happening in davos that you're keeping your
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eye on sir well it's no surprise to me that people like think or any of the uh boosters at at davos
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would like to see more and more adoption i mean i i suppose a billion plus people just simply isn't
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enough for them what you know the the overhang the idea that people are not uh utilizing the systems
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that are full capabilities yeah maybe but i i think that ultimately the the real focus has to
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be on what happens when you suffuse an entire corporation or a school uh or any organization
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or a person's life uh with a non-human mind that they then become dependent on the much more
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concerning to me is how human capabilities are becoming atrophied not that ai capabilities are not
00:47:37.100
being exploited but there's going to be there will be a great panel with uh denis asabas and dario on
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the day i think that the war room possibly will have plenty to sink their teeth in there talking
00:47:48.060
about life after agi kind of sci-fi jensen huang of course will be there david sacks of course will be
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00:48:00.700
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00:48:06.460
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we're covering this every day so joe you're going to be there we'll stream these things as we can get
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non-stop between to do that joe where do people follow you sir
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uh social media at joe b-o-t-x-y-z and my website joebot.xyz tomorrow doing a closed door press
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