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Tulsi Gabbard met with FBI agents the day after a raid on an election center in Georgia, and she called President Trump to thank them for their work. Alex Blumberg explains why that's not normal. Plus, a new report about Ed Martin, the Justice Department's lead prosecutor on the Russia investigation, and why he's been sidelined.
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Times reports that the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, met with federal
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agents the day after the FBI raid on a Georgia election center. According to three people with
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knowledge of the meeting, at one point, Gabbard pulled out her cell phone and called President
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Trump, which is totally not normal. She put the president on speakerphone and then he proceeded
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to ask the FBI agents questions before praising them for their work on the investigation in
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Fulton County. Again, that is not normal. Why is that not normal? Because the FBI is supposed to be
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independent from the White House, Katie. And it would be one thing if the president was calling
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some FBI agents who had just participated in a dangerous operation to grab a fugitive overseas.
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This is an investigation that goes directly to Donald Trump's political agenda and to the
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conspiracy theories that he's been spinning about the 2020 election. And we don't know the extent to
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which we don't know the evidence that they have that allowed a federal magistrate judge
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to approve that search warrant. But we do know that Donald Trump is trying to suggest
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that this evidence bolsters some of the wackadoodle conspiracy theories that he's been spinning for
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a long time about Italian satellites and voting machines that flip votes in Georgia and all kinds
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of things that have been totally debunked. And I can tell you, look, I haven't confirmed this
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to the satisfaction of MSNOW, but I caught wind of this story and I have no reason to doubt any of
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the details that have been reported. And my understanding is the agents were very, very
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disturbed and concerned by the whole appearance and the whole way that this played out. Because
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to have Donald Trump with an interest in the outcome of this investigation, getting on the phone
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and talking to them, it's just not how things are done.
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What he talked about after the 2020 election when he lost but refused to admit it, right? Mike Flynn,
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we talked about him just a minute ago, came to the Oval Office along with Sidney Powell and a couple
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others, and they urged him to use the military to seize the voting machines, okay? He didn't do that
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at the time. But just the other day when he talked to my colleagues from the New York Times, he actually
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expressed some regret that he didn't. He said he should have used the military to seize voting
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machines in 2020. So the election, the lesson that he's taken from that election is not to keep your
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hands off an election, but in fact to do more to try to control it. And he's talking about taking
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over 15 states. He's not talking about taking over states that gave him the vote. He's talking about
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taking over blue states so that they can't give votes to Democrats running against him or his chosen
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successor. And I think that's going to send a real alarm signal through a lot of, you know,
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You have some brand new reporting about Ed Martin, the Justice Department lawyer, who's been
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the leading advocate for a lot of the investigations that Donald Trump wants
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into his political adversaries. What's going on with Martin?
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That's right. Ed Martin, a polarizing figure, even by the standards of the second Trump
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administration, remember, stopped the steal, co-founder, defended January 6th defendants,
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and has been a leading advocate for these investigations that target Donald Trump's political
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adversaries. He, as we understand it, we've been told by three people, he's been sidelined.
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From his role as heading the so-called weaponization working group, in part over
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his feud, longstanding feud with Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general, who is said to just
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loathe, absolutely despise Ed Martin. And so Ed Martin remains the pardon attorney. That's
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another one of his jobs. And the Justice Department spokesperson told us in a statement,
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hey, Ed has been appointed pardon attorney, and he's been doing a great job at that. He did not
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address what we understand to be the sidelining of Ed Martin from, I think, the role he cares more
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about, which is the weaponization working group role. But that's our understanding. He is not
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exercising that role right now. He's at a different office, not at main justice, working
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on pardons, which in and of itself is a very controversial part of the Trump administration.
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But in terms of his efforts to go after people like James Comey and Letitia James, he's not
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involved in that anymore, as we understand it, Katie. Go after the ones who are killing the people.
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Put this regime on notice. We're never going to let up, strangle their economy. It will fall. The
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people will take over. And over time, we will have a friend in Iran, not an enemy.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people had a belly full
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of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to
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share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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It's Monday, 2 February, Year of Our Lord, 2026. Welcome to the afternoon, late afternoon,
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early evening edition of the War Room. We will have War Room Texas right after this hour.
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And as we talk at War Room Texas about what happened over the weekend on this election in
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Senate District 9 as we get ready for this run-up to the 3 March primary, I want to talk about Tulsi
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Gabbard, Ed Martin, Laura Loomer. Let's start with Tulsi Gabbard. I asked Kurt Mills to join us. Kurt,
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today, President Trump's announced, Witkoff's announced, I think he's flying over to the Middle
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East to do a wellness check on Netanyahu. But there's a beginning of talks. I think it may
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take place in Turkey. Erdogan may have some role here as a mediator, but it looks like we're on talks,
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although we've got assets in place in theater, including a carrier strike group, I guess,
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in the North Arabian Sea, or the Lincoln strike group has been kind of in and out. But we have
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enough assets there. And of course, this all gets back to the intelligence, what the president's
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being told. But it looks like the president is taking the route of continued economic warfare.
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He announced a deal for China to buy oil from Venezuela. He had cut the oil off first, but he
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mentioned that they wouldn't be buying it from the Ayatollah, the Mullahs anymore. He's got a deal
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with Modi. Dr. Thayer's going to join us momentarily. He says he's got a trade deal a day.
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Part of it is to get the Russian, not buying Russian oil. Walk me through, first off, where
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do we stay in this Iran situation? Tulsi Gareth's been such a big part of D&I, of really giving us a
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balance of intelligence. And of course, Mark Levin, which I think is fine. Mark Levin, I think,
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took the first 18 minutes of his show last night to make the case for why you go kinetic right now,
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Yeah, it looks as if it's a real 11th hour knife fight on the Iran file. End of last week,
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end of January, it seemed as if it was all systems go for a imminent strike by the United States on
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the Iranians. Over the weekend, the situation changed. The Iranians came back to the table,
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I would say, on two tracks. One, the Russian track, which I think in some ways might be the
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more important one. And then secondly, what is also known as the Istanbul track. And there
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was discussions in both capitals about how to avoid a war. And it appears as we're heading into
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Friday that, number one, the entire region's getting involved, including Turkey, including
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Saudi Arabia, including others, including Qatar. And additionally, Trump is not only sending
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Wyckoff, but he's also sending Jared Kushner, his son-in-law. So it seems as if it's all of the
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heavies to get a last-minute negotiation. But per multiple reports, the Iranians have offered to
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move more nuclear material out of the country, which would seemingly be a concession that the
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U.S. strikes last June did not get all the nuclear material. And then it's very possible that they
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might agree to further abrogate their program beyond levels that they had even conceded. So it is very
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possible that Trump is able to get a deal that is better than JCPOA, better than the Obama-Iran deal
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by a country mile, frankly, while avoiding a second war. There's a lot going on, though. As you
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allude to, this Gabbard story comes across the wire in Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal
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this morning, Monday on the 2nd. And it is curious the timing. Apparently there was a whistleblower
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complaint about her last spring. This was as Gabbard sort of fell out of the president's
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good graces. And Gabbard testified to Congress that the Iranian nuclear program was not a major
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threat to the United States, which of course it is not, as it currently stands. And it is a question
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of whether or not there's an effort to further sideline Gabbard again. Because Gabbard's in this
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unusual position, right? She has not been fired. She has one of the big four national security jobs,
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along with SEC State, NSA, and Secretary of War. And Gabbard apparently is overseeing Trump's efforts
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to investigate the results of the election in 2020 in Georgia. So why a disclosure now? Why a journal
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report on this now? It is curious. And then additionally, the complaint itself, and finally the complaint
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itself, was lobbied during the run-up to the 12-day war in June. I have no special information,
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but it's very possible the complaint was meant to sideline a relative restrainer within Trump's
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ranks. Okay. I want to just rewind for one second. I'm not sure she ever fell out of President Trump's
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favor. What I think really happened is that some of the advisors around President Trump, she fell out
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of their favor because I believe she was speaking truth. I've said on the show a million times,
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the intelligence the president worked off of in July, it was not the urgency. And we know this
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now because it's been released by the Times of Injured. The War Cabinet meetings said it was a couple
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of years before they had anything. As you know, this deal that President Trump could get now is much
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better than any deal possible. So Gabbard's always been, to me, a truth teller. Tulsi just gives the
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facts as they are and doesn't politicize it. There are certain people around the president,
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particularly in the intel world, that will politicize this. And my fact check on that
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is President Trump would never have her overseeing because there is a major national security and
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intelligence part of this 2020 election that has to be looked into. And he believes she's a safe pair
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of hands to do it. But you could tell today, the same people that were upset with her before
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have got the neocons of the Wall Street Journal going. The Wall Street Journal basically publishes,
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essentially hearsay from some whistleblower who's already been discredited. And I think you got to
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go down. The DNI spokesman came out and she was terrific. She says, hey, talk about buried leads.
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I think it's in the 12th of the 13th paragraph of the story. You find out that it's already been
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dismissed as some sort of crank. Of course, the Daily Mail and other publications that normally take
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big stories like this from the Wall Street Journal, they just blow it up. And all of a sudden,
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Tulsi Gabbard's, you know, she's being investigated for serious national security.
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And the quotes were so breathless. You know, FBI people have never seen something like this. This
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will shock the nation. All of that. That is the same type of theatrics they tried to use
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to silence her the first time when, let me repeat, she was 100% correct, Kurt Mills.
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No, I mean, this is something I'm sort of loathe to do. This is basically media reporting,
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but it's important. The Wall Street Journal, of course, is owned by Rupert Murdoch. It's owned
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by News Corp, which oversees Fox News and the Journal, which is obviously competing for the
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president's attention right now. I think it's important to bifurcate it out. Generally speaking,
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the Wall Street Journal hard reporting does great work, very important stuff. I think it is basically
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believable. The editorial board is a comic relief, baby boomer, you know, sort of laugh factory at
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this point that is basically appealing to the politics of one man, Mr. Murdoch. However,
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occasionally in times of acute national security situations, and I think specifically I can think
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about right after October 7th, it does seem as if some of the opinion vapors bleed into the reporting,
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the hard reporting at the Journal. There was an example in late 2023 with the Journal, and I
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believe they've never retracted or apologized for this report, had a very loosely verified report
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about how the Ayatollah, about how the Iranians directed October 7th. No evidence has ever come to
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light on that fact. The Iranians, by most reporting, were, yes, in light of Hamas, but were basically in
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the dark. There wasn't severe channels, which makes sense. This is a Shia Persian power as opposed to
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a Sunni radical Islamic power. They were tacit allies at best. Finally, I think, again, I'm sure
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there was a whistleblower complaint. I'm sure it needs to be investigated further, but the timing on
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the timing of the complaint in mid-spring in 2025 for it to resurface as hawks and neocons are pushing
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for a new war with Iran again in early February is conspicuous. It appeared as a major scoop and a
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major breaking story. That's why you look at it. This thing is ultimate put to bed. Kurt, hang on for
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one second. We're going to take a short break. Kurt Mills, Dr. Bradley Thayer on the other side. I've got
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to talk about the counter-argument, you know, should you go kinetic and should you go right now?
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President Trump, I think it's pretty obvious, is using the deployment of assets to force guys to
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the table and get a reality check. And he's got people in the region trying to give him a reality
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check. Russia and Erdogan, which normally work hand in glove in the region, trying to give him a
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reality check. So we'll see how all that plays out. We're going to give the counter-argument
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of Mark Levin and his team. Also talking about Tulsi under pressure now as the president says,
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hey, the voting in these Democrat states is so illegal, so over the top, we might have to
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nationalize the midterm elections. Traditionally, when we talk about nationalize, we say, hey,
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make it big national issues so it's an up or down vote on the direction of the country. He's saying
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something different. He's saying he may have to get federal officials involved in actually managing
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very cogent arguments, I think. I think they're pure madness, and that's why I want more people
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to listen to him. He did an 18-minute, I think, open on Fox last night, where he's systematic,
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because he's a constant, you know, he's a lawyer. He walked through his case, you know,
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beat by beat of why we should go kinetic now, and not just why we should do it, that we have to do it.
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This is a perfect time. We'll never see this time again, and we have to go kinetic. We have to use
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American military force to decapitate the regime, the Iranian regime, and then we have to, I guess,
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back whatever group comes together to try to put it back together again. My argument is that use
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economic sanctions. I think we ought to block the oil, but the Iranian people put these guys in
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charge, and I understand there's a lot of bloodshed in the streets, but hey, guess what? You're trying to
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overthrow a government that you put in, and you were looking for an Islamic republic. When you look
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at Islamic republics, they're kind of totalitarian, so you got what you paid for, and now you deal
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with it. Mark Levin takes a very different path, and you actually retweeted, where I try to be
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magnanimous and say, Mark, you should watch it, because he makes the best case why we shouldn't go
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kinetic. You actually say, I think you called it, what, moronic? What did you say? You were quite,
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you were very snippy, Kurt Mills. For such a nice guy, you took a real ledger. What'd you say?
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Sermon of a lunatic. Why did you say that, sir?
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I mean, obviously, I mean, he does his opening monologue, and, you know, it's, it's, he's relegated
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to Fox Weekend, so you know it's the real madhouse stuff that Murdoch won't allow on the weekdays
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programming. But, I mean, you know, he does his Edward R. Murrow bit, but it's basically
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Edward R. Murrow if he was a bald, schizophrenic Zionist. I mean, it's really next-level stuff.
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And this weekend, I would say, was the coup de grace. He said that Iran has become the North Korea
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of the Middle East. Now, putting aside that Iran is, you know, yes, an autocracy, yes, a tough place
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to live if you're an enemy of their regime. It's hardly North Korean. They don't have death
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camps, as Levin alleged. But I think what's actually important here-
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But hold on, but hold on, hold on. Hang on, but hang on. Even if they're North Korean,
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we're not moving on the North Koreans. President Trump wants meetings with the North Koreans. He
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wants to talk about it and put pressure on the Chinese, because the North Koreans are a vassal state,
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just like you put pressure on Turkey and Russia and other people around there to bring them to the
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table to negotiate. We're not in bombing. I don't- I haven't seen us bombing, you know,
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bombing North Korea, sir. So they are in North Korea. Big deal.
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If they have nukes, right? I mean, like, that's what autocracies have learned around the world,
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that the only guarantor, the only safeguard of their regimes are to get nuclear weapons. I don't
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think the Iranians are actually there. I think the Iranians have shown that they will do a deal
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with this president, that they will basically abandon any serious lunge towards nuclear weapons.
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They have been fighting this zero enrichment thing. But, you know, the level of enrichment
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that you need to get a nuclear weapon is not the level of enrichment that they're agreeing to go
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below. They're talking about 3 percent enrichment. That's not 100 percent enrichment. That's not a
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nuclear weapon. And I don't think we want to set the precedent that basically the U.S. is just a
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totally dishonest broker. Because then you will see other countries lunge for the bomb. You will
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see if the Iranians, if their regime can survive, they will lunge for a crude weapon. And so,
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ironically, the number one thing that makes the world proliferate is the kind of extreme hawk,
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neocon stuff that we've been pursuing, or that Levin would prefer us to pursue. Because if the
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Iranians go down, the Turks are going to go for the bomb, the Saudis are going to go for a bomb,
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the Japanese are going to go for a bomb, the Koreans will go for a bomb. And I think if our goal is to
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have less nuclear weapons in the world, that's a dangerous line. Some argue, like Mearsheimer,
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that that actually might make the world safer. I'm not sure I'm quite there, especially because
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we have the street goal of no nuclear weapon for the Iranians. And I think that can be easily
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achieved. And as I've indicated elsewhere, this is actually the one thing that will get Donald Trump
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the Nobel Peace Prize. He thinks it's a deal potentially with Ukraine or on Gaza. Both are too
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controversial. These are European liberals, right? If he does a deal with the Russians on Ukraine,
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they'll never forgive him for it. But if he actually flouts the will of Netanyahu, if he flouts
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the will of people like Mark Levin, if he does a better deal, a more impressive deal with the
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Iranians than Barack Obama did, that is the one thing that actually will get him the Nobel Peace
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Prize. He's got the wrong nomination list right now. He's got Vladimir Putin and the leadership of
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Pakistan. These are not the people you want. Okay. If this guy can pull off a Ukraine peace
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deal with no American security guarantee, a Gaza deal that's rebuilding, they're already putting
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big money in there with no American security guarantee. And he forces by military, potential
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military might, the assets we have in theater, a deal, a meaningful deal with the Iranians.
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Forget the number of priest pies. He'll go down in history as the greatest man of peace
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in world history. It just, I mean, he's solved the unsolvable. And so let's give President
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Trump a chance. Let's give him some runway. Let's go back to Tulsi Gabbard. This is why
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I said she didn't fall out of favor with the president. She fell out of favor with that
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kind of Praetorian guard that sometimes in the national security aspect during the June
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and July timeframe. And they tried to run her out of there, you know, every other day.
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The President Trump thinks very highly of her. He has to because she's overseeing. Cash is
00:23:39.740
doing the criminal part. She's looking at the overall stealing of the 2020 election.
00:23:44.580
And the mainstream media is absolutely incorrect. We have to get to the bottom of that because if
00:23:48.700
you don't have that, you don't have a country. And Tulsi's doing a job. And you see right now
00:23:52.300
they're trying to get her, oh my God, she's doing conference calls to Trump, conference calls
00:23:57.460
to the FBI. They are coming at Tulsi Gabbard every way possible. And that's why MAGA has to
00:24:04.100
have her back, Kurt Mills. Look, I mean, people forget in August of 2024, you know, this was
00:24:13.520
brat summer. This was the ascendance of Kamala Harris. There was an expectation that the Trump
00:24:19.680
Vance ticket could lose. And the endorsement of RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard was a crucial lifeline
00:24:26.080
in getting Trump to win. And I think if MAGA is going to be an enduring political movement,
00:24:32.040
if it's going to have an afterlife long after Trump's in office, you need to keep people in
00:24:37.380
the coalition like the Kennedys, like the Gabbards. And Gabbards, a representative of a lot of Americans,
00:24:43.860
independent-minded Americans, ex-Democrats who came to vote for Donald Trump. And not surprisingly,
00:24:49.740
she has foreign policies that were critical of previous Republican administrations, like the Bush
00:24:55.260
administration. There's a lot of people, unfortunately, again, within Trump's cabinet,
00:24:59.540
who just want to return, people like Marco Rubio, I would submit, who just want to return to the hits.
00:25:04.700
They just want to return to Pompeoism or Mike Penceism or establishment Republicanism. There's not the
00:25:10.420
demographics for it, first of all. But second of all, it's demonstrably failed. Iraq didn't work.
00:25:15.760
The global financial crisis didn't work. People are justifiably angry about the Bush Republican
00:25:22.280
legacy. And so that Trump and his allies need to cook up something new. And keeping people like
00:25:28.180
Gabbard in the fold, I think, is absolutely crucial.
00:25:31.560
Afghanistan didn't work. And don't, you know, Osama bin Laden hit the World Trade Center
00:25:36.480
on Bush's watch, and they couldn't get him in before their watch was over. They were too busy
00:25:41.380
in Iraq doing first Fallujah, second Fallujah. That had to fall to Obama. Kurt Mills, where do people
00:25:47.940
go and get you? This one's a hot one, particularly the Iran situation. Tulsi Gabbard, they're all over
00:25:52.340
her. Where do people go to get you on social media and all the great content you're putting up?
00:25:57.460
Yeah, I mean, Bush let a UBL go. Look at the Afghan papers that have been declassified. But anyways,
00:26:02.260
it's the American Conservative magazine founded in 2002 by Patrick J. Buchanan and others
00:26:08.040
against the Iraq War, conservatives and friends against the Iraq War. It is at www.theamericanconservative.com.
00:26:15.040
And my own work is at Kurt Mills, at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S on X. I'm the executive director
00:26:21.580
of our fine little magazine. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. The Afghan papers,
00:26:27.200
we cover those extensively. So many people did, and it's almost as bad as the Pentagon papers.
00:26:31.800
Not as quite, because Vietnam was even more out of control, but the Afghan situation,
00:26:35.300
you've been lied to every day. Dr. Bradley Thayer, give me a minute. We're going to go to break,
00:26:39.700
and I'm going to hold you through. The EU is so proud. They've been announcing deals with India.
00:26:45.340
Then you had the Spanish, I guess, Marxist party actually confirm what we've been talking about
00:26:49.580
here in the States, the great replacement theory. They said, hey, yes, certainly we don't want right
00:26:53.640
wingers in our country. We'd rather take migrants. You said 27 January, I think, 2026 was the official
00:27:00.800
date of the beginning of the end of Western civilization, sir?
00:27:03.800
Yes, Steve. The Tuesday, January 27th, 2026 was the day that it was murdered. You had on that day,
00:27:14.060
both the Spanish announcement of the 500,000 individuals who are going to get work permits,
00:27:19.620
which you have to multiply by six or seven times because of family unification, which is always
00:27:24.220
permitted. And then the EU reached with Modi an agreement on mobility also on January 27th,
00:27:31.780
which is going to allow Indians to come into the European Union to skilled workers, purportedly,
00:27:39.460
students and others by the millions. So Western civilization lasted for about 3,000 years,
00:27:47.460
but the European Union did its utmost to murder it a week ago. That comes six days after President
00:27:54.780
Trump at Davos on January 21st, right, touted the advantages of Western civilization and the need
00:28:02.020
to sustain Western civilization as the NSS. The National Security Strategy identified civilizational erasure.
00:28:10.640
Hang on one second. Let's just hang on for the break. Civilizational erasure. Nobody knew what that
00:28:18.600
meant when President Trump put it in there. Well, we know now. Short commercial break. Dr. Bradley
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I still got to get to Ed Martin. I still got to get to Laura Loomer. They're both taking
00:30:09.180
Chasse. They're taking Incomity. I did Tulsi. Christy Noem has agreed, has gone, the president
00:30:14.020
agreed. As you remember, Mike Davis and I went through the six things we can't give up on
00:30:17.680
in this fight with the Senate on ICE. And she said, hey, she's good with cameras going into
00:30:26.600
the ICE officers. I wouldn't give a ground inch to these people on anything. They're
00:30:32.020
not going to all of a sudden go, okay, they gave up something. Let's give it. That's not
00:30:34.560
how it works. I appreciate Secretary Noem. She's doing her best. She's fighting the good
00:30:40.900
fight. But I would not, I don't think we give them in a whole package if you had to. Maybe
00:30:47.780
you give them something. I'm not so sure you give them that. But they're asking for things
00:30:50.720
that destroy ICE. And so far, correct me if I'm wrong, you know, I've talked to Burquam
00:30:55.540
this morning. I talked to folks this morning. I don't think Ellison has let anybody into a jail
00:31:00.800
to get a criminal. He said, I may do it. This means like last week. Because these people,
00:31:06.140
business model, look, what Thayer's talking about, the women's, the Marxist are communists
00:31:10.900
in Spain. She was up front. She says, yes, we love replacement theory. Instead of having
00:31:15.440
conservatives right wingers, we'd rather have people, migrants from North Africa, right?
00:31:20.580
Because they can form them. This is what's happening in Minnesota. And it's not whites.
00:31:26.100
It's African-Americans and Hispanic-American citizens. That's what this great invasion
00:31:31.440
was. They want people that are more malleable. And it has to be fought. Dr. Thayer, you say
00:31:37.360
it's the end of Western civilization. Take the India part. Of course, they did a trade deal
00:31:42.840
and they're going to have different tariffs and there'll be more trade between each other.
00:31:45.880
But they put, in addition to that, a massive immigration bill, correct, of incoming to Europe,
00:31:54.720
correct? Yes. Agreement on mobility, including having facilities in India to accelerate the
00:32:03.460
movement of Indians into the EU. That will be largely to Ireland, of course, because English
00:32:10.400
speaking and access to the UK. So, absolutely. Steve, there's a civil war going on in Western
00:32:17.800
civilization between those who want to sustain Western civilization. That's President Trump
00:32:22.640
and the NSS and those who want to destroy it. And that's Spanish politicians. It's Ursula von der Leyen.
00:32:30.180
It's the European Union. Keir Starmer. Most politicians, most of the elite level in Europe,
00:32:37.760
want to do everything that they can do to continue their hard authoritarianism and secondly, continue
00:32:45.720
immigration and thirdly, never change that policy. Nothing can ever be allowed to stop more immigration
00:32:53.740
into the EU, Canada as well. And thankfully, we stopped that in the US. So, it's time to take the
00:33:03.160
gloves off with the European Union. This clash has been building for some time, but it's now to take
00:33:10.780
the NSS seriously. This is a national security threat. And that means it's time for some tough
00:33:17.640
love for the European Union. It's going to involve tariffs, right? They're going to have to change their
00:33:23.880
policy. Western civilization doesn't belong to the evil mediocrities running the European Union. It
00:33:30.520
belongs to all of us. Yeah. And they don't get to destroy it. And President Trump gave the Warsaw
00:33:36.720
speech and then he gave the speech at Davos and the national security document. We've got to bounce.
00:33:41.300
You're working on a magisterial work about communism, how it's never left us. You go back in history,
00:33:46.960
but you also talked about the current times. I can't wait till the book is out, hopefully later in
00:33:51.480
the spring, early summer. Dr. Thayer, where do people go to get your writings and your thoughts on
00:33:55.700
social media and your website? Steve, I'm at Brad Thayer and X and Bradley Thayer at Getter
00:34:00.940
and at Truth. It's, look, they don't get to destroy Western civilization. We get a vote and we vote to
00:34:08.680
save it. And that means, you know, time for some great restrictions, increased tariffs on the EU,
00:34:17.480
restricting intelligence sharing, military exercises, right? Western civilization is worth a fight.
00:34:24.040
This is the time to have it. Amen, brother. I agree with you. This goes back to
00:34:28.880
the state Senate election in Texas. The left knows we're at war. The right, the war in posse does,
00:34:37.420
but we've got to enlighten and awaken everybody on the right that we're at war right now.
00:34:41.760
And this is going to win one of two ways. We either keep this civilization and bequeath it to
00:34:46.160
future generations, or we're going to lose it. And we can lose it. Dr. Thayer, thank you.
00:34:50.220
That brings up two people, Ed Martin. And look, I don't know what's going on. Ed Martin is a great
00:34:58.100
warrior. He was head of, supposed to be, when he left the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, when Judge
00:35:05.880
Janine came in, when she got confirmed, Ed went over to Maine Justice to head up the weaponization
00:35:11.740
of government, of which he was handpicked by this guy named, let me remember, I get him. Oh,
00:35:16.820
yeah, Donald J. Trump, who happens to be president of the United States, who could not think more
00:35:21.800
highly of Ed back from the time of, in 15 and 16, when Phyllis Schlafly endorsed President Trump.
00:35:30.760
And Ed Martin has been a warrior since then. He's one of the toughest hombres I've ever met.
00:35:34.800
And now there's a Washington Post story that says today that Ed Martin is out of Maine Justice. He's
00:35:40.220
off of, not even not heading the weaponization, but he's not even on the weaponization working group.
00:35:46.840
I don't know how that happened. And he's now doing pardons full time and pardon. And there's
00:35:50.740
this discussion. He may go to the White House in a senior position. I'd rather have him in Maine
00:35:56.900
Justice on weaponization. I think it's good for the country. He, this guy's a total warrior.
00:36:01.580
If not, please, we got to keep him in the White House in a senior position. Ed Martin, the reason
00:36:07.500
after the people like Ed Martin is because Ed Martin is a fighter. Tulsi Gabbard's a fighter. They,
00:36:13.780
they single out and target the people that are the biggest fighters. And so we're going to get,
00:36:18.500
we're going to delve into this more, but it just broke today. We heard there were some
00:36:21.780
rumblings over there, but Ed Martin is supposedly, according to the media, he's out of Maine
00:36:26.200
Justice. He's off the weaponization, not simply heading it. It's off any work in the weaponization
00:36:31.300
of government committee. And he's now doing pardons, which is fantastic, but he's got a lot more capacity
00:36:37.020
than that. And we've got Ed's back and we're going to figure out or find out exactly what's
00:36:42.140
going on. If he goes over to the White House in a senior position, that's fantastic.
00:36:46.400
So why are we in Texas for a month in the run-up to this primary? Well, because on the ballot
00:36:53.540
in March, and we're going to talk about this next, basically some people that have lived under
00:36:59.840
Sharia law have, as Westerners, didn't comply with it, but saw society's crater when it was brought
00:37:06.340
in. We're going to do that the next hour in War Room, Texas, to talk about what's going on in
00:37:10.400
Texas. Now there's this proposition on the ballot to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas. And
00:37:17.560
they want to have overwhelming on Prop 10 on 3 March, so it gets on the permanent ballot, but also
00:37:24.180
the governor, Abbott, and you know, Abbott oftentimes has not been quick on the trigger of this. We
00:37:31.560
actually got clips in the next hour of Abbott, and now John Cornyn's jumping in. Abbott declared
00:37:36.180
the Muslim Brotherhood in Care as terrorist organizations. He was followed shortly thereafter
00:37:41.400
by Governor Ron DeSantis, who declared care a terrorist, Muslim Brotherhood in Care of
00:37:48.220
terrorist organizations. And look, you know, there's a lot of times, particularly when we're
00:37:52.760
after President Trump ran against him, Ron DeSantis is not my cup of tea, but Ron DeSantis
00:37:56.440
as a governor is very methodical when he does things. He's not a guy that hot foots it around.
00:38:02.060
He really thinks things through. You can see that during the pandemic. And so for Ron
00:38:06.420
DeSantis and Abbott to do it, two governors have designated terrorist organizations. Guess
00:38:10.740
what? They're following the UAE and Saudi. They're terrorist organizations. President Trump's
00:38:15.260
already designated three. I think it's Jordan, right? Egypt and Syria, branches of the Muslim
00:38:20.540
Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. I think they're still reviewing Qatar and Turkey.
00:38:26.100
Laura Loomer sued, sued Care years ago for conspiring with the previous management before
00:38:33.480
Elon took over of banning her from Twitter. There was a Breitbart article came out years
00:38:37.760
later that said that the, well, I think from the Wall Street Journal said they had documents
00:38:42.320
that that had actually happened. Yet when she sued, they lost in federal court. Of course,
00:38:47.060
these federal court guys are always defending the bad guys. They made Laura pay the legal fees,
00:38:53.500
right? I think it was 125,000 bucks of care. And since they've been designated a terrorist
00:38:59.120
organization, she did the logical thing. She went back to the court and said, hey, oh, by the way,
00:39:03.340
since they're a terrorist organization, maybe I don't have to pay the rest of the money.
00:39:06.260
And the magistrate judge, Reinhardt, remember him? The one that signed off on, signed off on the
00:39:11.260
Raid of Mar-a-Lago. You know what a scumbag that guy is. He hates President Trump. He's a never
00:39:15.400
Trumper. He basically said, no, you have to pay. Here's what I don't understand. And I would
00:39:20.640
request from the governor's office in Florida, Ron DeSantis, because I know DeSantis is a serious guy.
00:39:27.480
If you designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations, someone should look
00:39:33.440
into the situation with Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer was a warrior out there at the beginning before
00:39:38.840
Abbott, years before Abbott, and years before DeSantis came on the scene as governor to put this
00:39:45.500
up. I remember I fought at Breitbart and in the administration to designate the Muslim Brotherhood
00:39:49.920
and their cohort CARE as terrorist organizations. Now, we didn't get very far in 2017. We were busy
00:39:56.760
taking down ISIS, trying to get accommodations in the Middle East so they would go after terrorist
00:40:02.380
financing, which Qatar essentially at that time refused to do. But it was evident in talking to
00:40:07.340
people in the Gulf region, there was no doubt that the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE were terrorist
00:40:13.600
organizations when you talk to these senior level people. So I don't understand why a federal
00:40:19.040
magistrate judge. And then here's the worst news. CARE's online mocking her. They're doxing
00:40:25.380
her. They're putting up the documents about her checkbook and her banking account, I guess
00:40:30.800
her address. It just seems to me that the state of Florida or someone in President Trump's
00:40:36.080
administration ought to take a hard look at this because clearly Laura's been fighting
00:40:39.820
this fight for a long time before other people came on board. And they're targeting her because
00:40:45.360
they understand she's a hammer when it comes to this stuff. And you're going to see it get very ugly
00:40:50.360
down here in Texas. You just are. As this whole movement to ban Sharia law, to prohibit Sharia law
00:40:56.760
in the great state of Texas. And it's something that's long past due. It should have never even
00:41:01.700
gotten traction here. It has gotten traction. As you're going to see in the next hour,
00:41:05.140
it's spreading like wildfire. And it has to be stopped. You have to prohibit Sharia law. This
00:41:11.420
is not about religion. This is about a control mechanism that is just antithetical to the
00:41:17.500
constitutional republic we live in. Okay. We talked about the coalition at the beginning of
00:41:23.740
Kurt Mills brought it up of Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard. Let me bring in Dr. Brian Hooker.
00:41:29.860
Make America healthy again, sir. You guys are doing platinum level research,
00:41:34.260
which Bobby Kennedy promised. Talk to me about what you got today to share with us about vaccines.
00:41:40.420
Well, we have come up with a new article. This is a review paper where we have connected
00:41:46.820
definitively the aluminum adjuvants used in most vaccines on the infant childhood schedule
00:41:56.940
and autism spectrum disorder. We've looked at this, Steve, from a standpoint of epidemiology,
00:42:04.260
we've looked at it from biochemistry and cell physiology. We've looked at neuropathology. We've
00:42:10.040
looked at genetics. And we've even gone through a legal exercise, what's called the Bradford Hill
00:42:16.240
criteria, which is used in court to establish causation between an environmental stressor and a
00:42:23.780
medical condition. We've gone through all nine of those criteria. And when we go through that,
00:42:28.620
we have shown that aluminum adjuvants are, you know, intimately tied to the etiology of autism.
00:42:38.420
And, you know, the thing that is so insidious about this is that aluminum adjuvants are ubiquitous
00:42:44.500
in vaccines. They are used in almost every vaccine that children get between the ages of birth, if they
00:42:52.500
opt into the hepatitis B shot, until they're about two years of age. And so they're getting whopping
00:42:58.140
amounts of aluminum directly injected into their body. And it is tied to autism. It is tied to the
00:43:06.020
Why was this? We got about 30 seconds. I want to bring you back after the break.
00:43:09.880
These studies have been out there for a while. Why did no one in the government, no one at NIH or
00:43:14.300
wherever, why did no one ever tie these together? Why did take Bobby Kennedy coming on the scene with
00:43:18.880
people like you to do this? It doesn't, it doesn't seem to be, you don't, I mean, it's heavy lifting, but it's
00:43:23.740
not impossible. You could, somebody could have done this long ago. Why did they not do it?
00:43:28.280
They simply didn't do it because they didn't want to do it. They did not want to know the answers
00:43:34.480
regarding autism, the autism epidemic. And, you know, there was so much industry capture within the CDC,
00:43:42.060
within the National Institutes of Health with Fast Track and the FDA program, uh, that it behooved them
00:43:48.200
not to find that link. And we've had, you know, serial liars, uh, yeah, but that's what I want to
00:43:55.060
talk about. We get back. Let's take a short commercial break. Dr. Brian Hooker on the other
00:43:58.240
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay. Dr. Brian Hooker's with me. So Dr. Hooker, here's what you got
00:45:36.620
to help me understand the audience. You know, like the department of war, old department of offense,
00:45:42.060
you know, we got into Vietnam, other things, uh, the Iraq war, people protest. Sometimes there are a
00:45:45.860
million people when we try to put nuclear weapons, purging missiles into Europe to try to defend
00:45:51.380
Europe, millions of people in, in, in central park, the financial crisis, the tea party was created,
00:45:56.720
millions of people coming to Washington DC on the financial crisis. What caused it? But the
00:46:01.780
bailouts for the wealthy. So other parts of the government, people have been very vocal about
00:46:05.900
not agreeing. One thing you never saw that was kind of CDC or, you know, and there was considered
00:46:10.440
sacrosanct that they were dealing with the straight and these professionals could seem in the white coats.
00:46:14.920
They're at these conferences. They're, they're putting out official reports. So you're telling us by
00:46:19.800
tying together all these studies that are out there, things that are, have been evident to people in your
00:46:25.200
movement for a while. And we see Bobby Kennedy, they're trying to destroy him, but we need to
00:46:31.580
actually start to identify who, when you say, Hey, they knew it, they just didn't do it. We,
00:46:36.480
we got to go to phase two on this. If we don't hold individuals accountable, and I want to hold
00:46:41.880
Fauci accountable for different things, but somehow Bobby and the team have got to pivot and say,
00:46:49.180
these people cause tremendous damage to people and families and children, but they also destroyed
00:46:56.260
the credibility of this institution, which is going to take decades to rebuild, sir.
00:47:03.120
Absolutely. You know, the authors of the coverup regarding vaccines and autism started in the 1990s,
00:47:12.340
in the late 1990s. There were individuals like Roger Bernier, Dr. Julie Gerberding, Dr. Colleen Boyle,
00:47:21.220
Frank DiStefano, Thomas Verstratton, Phil Rhodes, so many others that conspired to look the other
00:47:30.860
direction regarding autism and vaccines and conspired to, you know, commit data fraud over and over and
00:47:38.700
over again. You know, they've set autism research behind probably 30 years because of this, because
00:47:45.100
if we would have known and we would have admitted what, what, you know, I've known for since my son
00:47:50.300
was diagnosed in 1999, then we could have advanced this research. We could have saved a lot of children.
00:47:57.060
They chose not to do it. So it's really on them. Not only do we need to clean up this mess in terms of
00:48:03.600
recompense for the individuals who have been affected, but these people, you know, jail time
00:48:08.300
is too good for them. I am sorry. Wow. Amazing. Is there some point in time, I know you're going to
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talk about recompense and all that. Is there some time that under Bobby, that HHS has actually come
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out with a definitive report? Here's exactly who lied about this or hit it or didn't do it.
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And we can actually then, people can connect to that themselves. Are you guys working on that?
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That's something I've been working on for years. That's something that before Secretary Kennedy
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even announces run for presidency, he's been working on that for years. I mean, there are
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many, many co-conspirators in the Institute of Medicine, in the pharmaceutical industry,
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in the CDC, in the National Institutes of Health. And it's time to name names. We have
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everything written down. We've, you know, worked actually on several legal complaints on it.
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That information needs to be published. It needs to be made public. I'm not aware of what Secretary
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Kennedy's plans are to do that, but I know that information exists and it's got to come out.
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We're here. Where do people go? I want people to go read this. I want to read this compilation,
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how you knitted it all together from previous great research. Where do people go and what is your
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social media? If you go to chd.tv and look at Good Morning CHD, you can hear more about the paper.
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You can find the link to the paper. You can follow me at Brian Hooker, PhD on X, on Instagram,
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or on Facebook. I have not yet been deplatformed, although I spent a lot of time in Facebook jail.
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Dr. Brian Hooker, thank you, sir. Look forward to having you back. And I had tipped Bobby Kennedy,
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