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00:00:00.000 Times reports that the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, met with federal

00:00:04.620 agents the day after the FBI raid on a Georgia election center. According to three people with

00:00:09.960 knowledge of the meeting, at one point, Gabbard pulled out her cell phone and called President

00:00:14.660 Trump, which is totally not normal. She put the president on speakerphone and then he proceeded

00:00:20.900 to ask the FBI agents questions before praising them for their work on the investigation in

00:00:28.600 Fulton County. Again, that is not normal. Why is that not normal? Because the FBI is supposed to be

00:00:36.480 independent from the White House, Katie. And it would be one thing if the president was calling

00:00:41.100 some FBI agents who had just participated in a dangerous operation to grab a fugitive overseas.

00:00:46.020 This is an investigation that goes directly to Donald Trump's political agenda and to the

00:00:52.260 conspiracy theories that he's been spinning about the 2020 election. And we don't know the extent to

00:00:56.940 which we don't know the evidence that they have that allowed a federal magistrate judge

00:01:01.400 to approve that search warrant. But we do know that Donald Trump is trying to suggest

00:01:05.740 that this evidence bolsters some of the wackadoodle conspiracy theories that he's been spinning for

00:01:10.740 a long time about Italian satellites and voting machines that flip votes in Georgia and all kinds

00:01:16.860 of things that have been totally debunked. And I can tell you, look, I haven't confirmed this

00:01:20.960 to the satisfaction of MSNOW, but I caught wind of this story and I have no reason to doubt any of

00:01:26.980 the details that have been reported. And my understanding is the agents were very, very

00:01:31.100 disturbed and concerned by the whole appearance and the whole way that this played out. Because

00:01:37.080 to have Donald Trump with an interest in the outcome of this investigation, getting on the phone

00:01:41.980 and talking to them, it's just not how things are done.

00:01:44.600 What he talked about after the 2020 election when he lost but refused to admit it, right? Mike Flynn,

00:01:49.460 we talked about him just a minute ago, came to the Oval Office along with Sidney Powell and a couple

00:01:54.240 others, and they urged him to use the military to seize the voting machines, okay? He didn't do that

00:01:59.760 at the time. But just the other day when he talked to my colleagues from the New York Times, he actually

00:02:03.960 expressed some regret that he didn't. He said he should have used the military to seize voting

00:02:08.160 machines in 2020. So the election, the lesson that he's taken from that election is not to keep your

00:02:15.360 hands off an election, but in fact to do more to try to control it. And he's talking about taking

00:02:20.320 over 15 states. He's not talking about taking over states that gave him the vote. He's talking about

00:02:24.560 taking over blue states so that they can't give votes to Democrats running against him or his chosen

00:02:31.100 successor. And I think that's going to send a real alarm signal through a lot of, you know,

00:02:37.480 Democratic precincts right now.

00:02:38.820 You have some brand new reporting about Ed Martin, the Justice Department lawyer, who's been

00:02:42.680 the leading advocate for a lot of the investigations that Donald Trump wants

00:02:46.640 into his political adversaries. What's going on with Martin?

00:02:50.180 That's right. Ed Martin, a polarizing figure, even by the standards of the second Trump

00:02:54.160 administration, remember, stopped the steal, co-founder, defended January 6th defendants,

00:02:59.900 and has been a leading advocate for these investigations that target Donald Trump's political

00:03:04.900 adversaries. He, as we understand it, we've been told by three people, he's been sidelined.

00:03:08.820 From his role as heading the so-called weaponization working group, in part over

00:03:13.640 his feud, longstanding feud with Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general, who is said to just

00:03:18.140 loathe, absolutely despise Ed Martin. And so Ed Martin remains the pardon attorney. That's

00:03:23.840 another one of his jobs. And the Justice Department spokesperson told us in a statement,

00:03:28.560 hey, Ed has been appointed pardon attorney, and he's been doing a great job at that. He did not

00:03:33.080 address what we understand to be the sidelining of Ed Martin from, I think, the role he cares more

00:03:38.120 about, which is the weaponization working group role. But that's our understanding. He is not

00:03:43.000 exercising that role right now. He's at a different office, not at main justice, working

00:03:47.360 on pardons, which in and of itself is a very controversial part of the Trump administration.

00:03:51.500 But in terms of his efforts to go after people like James Comey and Letitia James, he's not

00:03:57.100 involved in that anymore, as we understand it, Katie. Go after the ones who are killing the people. 0.62

00:04:01.880 Put this regime on notice. We're never going to let up, strangle their economy. It will fall. The

00:04:08.320 people will take over. And over time, we will have a friend in Iran, not an enemy.

00:04:15.320 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on

00:04:23.860 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people had a belly full

00:04:31.180 of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop

00:04:34.860 that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to

00:04:38.840 share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:04:47.420 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:04:54.360 this country will be saved.

00:04:57.360 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:05:04.040 It's Monday, 2 February, Year of Our Lord, 2026. Welcome to the afternoon, late afternoon,

00:05:11.600 early evening edition of the War Room. We will have War Room Texas right after this hour.

00:05:17.220 And as we talk at War Room Texas about what happened over the weekend on this election in

00:05:23.680 Senate District 9 as we get ready for this run-up to the 3 March primary, I want to talk about Tulsi

00:05:29.940 Gabbard, Ed Martin, Laura Loomer. Let's start with Tulsi Gabbard. I asked Kurt Mills to join us. Kurt,

00:05:39.000 today, President Trump's announced, Witkoff's announced, I think he's flying over to the Middle

00:05:45.360 East to do a wellness check on Netanyahu. But there's a beginning of talks. I think it may

00:05:52.100 take place in Turkey. Erdogan may have some role here as a mediator, but it looks like we're on talks,

00:05:59.380 although we've got assets in place in theater, including a carrier strike group, I guess,

00:06:04.160 in the North Arabian Sea, or the Lincoln strike group has been kind of in and out. But we have

00:06:08.880 enough assets there. And of course, this all gets back to the intelligence, what the president's

00:06:14.840 being told. But it looks like the president is taking the route of continued economic warfare.

00:06:19.760 He announced a deal for China to buy oil from Venezuela. He had cut the oil off first, but he

00:06:25.800 mentioned that they wouldn't be buying it from the Ayatollah, the Mullahs anymore. He's got a deal 0.72

00:06:32.120 with Modi. Dr. Thayer's going to join us momentarily. He says he's got a trade deal a day.

00:06:36.960 Part of it is to get the Russian, not buying Russian oil. Walk me through, first off, where

00:06:42.040 do we stay in this Iran situation? Tulsi Gareth's been such a big part of D&I, of really giving us a

00:06:48.600 balance of intelligence. And of course, Mark Levin, which I think is fine. Mark Levin, I think,

00:06:53.720 took the first 18 minutes of his show last night to make the case for why you go kinetic right now,

00:07:00.360 for regime change in Iran. Kurt Mills.

00:07:04.860 Yeah, it looks as if it's a real 11th hour knife fight on the Iran file. End of last week,

00:07:11.580 end of January, it seemed as if it was all systems go for a imminent strike by the United States on

00:07:17.300 the Iranians. Over the weekend, the situation changed. The Iranians came back to the table, 1.00

00:07:25.060 I would say, on two tracks. One, the Russian track, which I think in some ways might be the

00:07:29.160 more important one. And then secondly, what is also known as the Istanbul track. And there

00:07:32.980 was discussions in both capitals about how to avoid a war. And it appears as we're heading into

00:07:38.000 Friday that, number one, the entire region's getting involved, including Turkey, including

00:07:43.360 Saudi Arabia, including others, including Qatar. And additionally, Trump is not only sending

00:07:48.660 Wyckoff, but he's also sending Jared Kushner, his son-in-law. So it seems as if it's all of the

00:07:54.020 heavies to get a last-minute negotiation. But per multiple reports, the Iranians have offered to

00:08:01.720 move more nuclear material out of the country, which would seemingly be a concession that the

00:08:06.840 U.S. strikes last June did not get all the nuclear material. And then it's very possible that they

00:08:11.820 might agree to further abrogate their program beyond levels that they had even conceded. So it is very

00:08:18.000 possible that Trump is able to get a deal that is better than JCPOA, better than the Obama-Iran deal

00:08:24.580 by a country mile, frankly, while avoiding a second war. There's a lot going on, though. As you

00:08:30.680 allude to, this Gabbard story comes across the wire in Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal

00:08:36.940 this morning, Monday on the 2nd. And it is curious the timing. Apparently there was a whistleblower

00:08:43.020 complaint about her last spring. This was as Gabbard sort of fell out of the president's

00:08:49.780 good graces. And Gabbard testified to Congress that the Iranian nuclear program was not a major

00:08:55.200 threat to the United States, which of course it is not, as it currently stands. And it is a question

00:09:00.440 of whether or not there's an effort to further sideline Gabbard again. Because Gabbard's in this

00:09:04.960 unusual position, right? She has not been fired. She has one of the big four national security jobs,

00:09:11.000 along with SEC State, NSA, and Secretary of War. And Gabbard apparently is overseeing Trump's efforts

00:09:19.140 to investigate the results of the election in 2020 in Georgia. So why a disclosure now? Why a journal

00:09:28.060 report on this now? It is curious. And then additionally, the complaint itself, and finally the complaint

00:09:32.820 itself, was lobbied during the run-up to the 12-day war in June. I have no special information,

00:09:38.220 but it's very possible the complaint was meant to sideline a relative restrainer within Trump's

00:09:44.300 ranks. Okay. I want to just rewind for one second. I'm not sure she ever fell out of President Trump's

00:09:51.580 favor. What I think really happened is that some of the advisors around President Trump, she fell out

00:09:57.340 of their favor because I believe she was speaking truth. I've said on the show a million times,

00:10:02.440 the intelligence the president worked off of in July, it was not the urgency. And we know this

00:10:11.040 now because it's been released by the Times of Injured. The War Cabinet meetings said it was a couple

00:10:16.360 of years before they had anything. As you know, this deal that President Trump could get now is much

00:10:20.980 better than any deal possible. So Gabbard's always been, to me, a truth teller. Tulsi just gives the

00:10:27.860 facts as they are and doesn't politicize it. There are certain people around the president,

00:10:31.700 particularly in the intel world, that will politicize this. And my fact check on that

00:10:37.280 is President Trump would never have her overseeing because there is a major national security and

00:10:42.480 intelligence part of this 2020 election that has to be looked into. And he believes she's a safe pair

00:10:49.800 of hands to do it. But you could tell today, the same people that were upset with her before

00:10:55.600 have got the neocons of the Wall Street Journal going. The Wall Street Journal basically publishes,

00:11:00.680 essentially hearsay from some whistleblower who's already been discredited. And I think you got to

00:11:05.660 go down. The DNI spokesman came out and she was terrific. She says, hey, talk about buried leads.

00:11:11.740 I think it's in the 12th of the 13th paragraph of the story. You find out that it's already been

00:11:17.780 dismissed as some sort of crank. Of course, the Daily Mail and other publications that normally take

00:11:23.120 big stories like this from the Wall Street Journal, they just blow it up. And all of a sudden,

00:11:27.220 Tulsi Gabbard's, you know, she's being investigated for serious national security. 0.67

00:11:32.740 And the quotes were so breathless. You know, FBI people have never seen something like this. This

00:11:37.280 will shock the nation. All of that. That is the same type of theatrics they tried to use

00:11:42.300 to silence her the first time when, let me repeat, she was 100% correct, Kurt Mills.

00:11:48.180 No, I mean, this is something I'm sort of loathe to do. This is basically media reporting,

00:11:53.380 but it's important. The Wall Street Journal, of course, is owned by Rupert Murdoch. It's owned

00:11:58.280 by News Corp, which oversees Fox News and the Journal, which is obviously competing for the

00:12:04.120 president's attention right now. I think it's important to bifurcate it out. Generally speaking,

00:12:08.500 the Wall Street Journal hard reporting does great work, very important stuff. I think it is basically

00:12:14.640 believable. The editorial board is a comic relief, baby boomer, you know, sort of laugh factory at 0.82

00:12:21.180 this point that is basically appealing to the politics of one man, Mr. Murdoch. However,

00:12:28.420 occasionally in times of acute national security situations, and I think specifically I can think

00:12:35.420 about right after October 7th, it does seem as if some of the opinion vapors bleed into the reporting,

00:12:43.280 the hard reporting at the Journal. There was an example in late 2023 with the Journal, and I

00:12:49.380 believe they've never retracted or apologized for this report, had a very loosely verified report

00:12:56.100 about how the Ayatollah, about how the Iranians directed October 7th. No evidence has ever come to

00:13:02.520 light on that fact. The Iranians, by most reporting, were, yes, in light of Hamas, but were basically in

00:13:09.420 the dark. There wasn't severe channels, which makes sense. This is a Shia Persian power as opposed to 0.99

00:13:15.400 a Sunni radical Islamic power. They were tacit allies at best. Finally, I think, again, I'm sure 0.99

00:13:23.440 there was a whistleblower complaint. I'm sure it needs to be investigated further, but the timing on

00:13:28.200 the timing of the complaint in mid-spring in 2025 for it to resurface as hawks and neocons are pushing

00:13:37.000 for a new war with Iran again in early February is conspicuous. It appeared as a major scoop and a

00:13:45.400 major breaking story. That's why you look at it. This thing is ultimate put to bed. Kurt, hang on for

00:13:50.840 one second. We're going to take a short break. Kurt Mills, Dr. Bradley Thayer on the other side. I've got

00:13:55.920 to talk about the counter-argument, you know, should you go kinetic and should you go right now?

00:13:59.960 President Trump, I think it's pretty obvious, is using the deployment of assets to force guys to

00:14:05.940 the table and get a reality check. And he's got people in the region trying to give him a reality

00:14:09.320 check. Russia and Erdogan, which normally work hand in glove in the region, trying to give him a

00:14:14.800 reality check. So we'll see how all that plays out. We're going to give the counter-argument

00:14:19.180 of Mark Levin and his team. Also talking about Tulsi under pressure now as the president says,

00:14:24.860 hey, the voting in these Democrat states is so illegal, so over the top, we might have to

00:14:30.580 nationalize the midterm elections. Traditionally, when we talk about nationalize, we say, hey,

00:14:34.900 make it big national issues so it's an up or down vote on the direction of the country. He's saying

00:14:40.060 something different. He's saying he may have to get federal officials involved in actually managing

00:14:46.500 local elections. And I got to tell you, with how out of control these local elections are on IDs,

00:14:53.540 on no purge voter rolls. We'll check it all out next.

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00:17:44.740 have a platform. Mark shouldn't have a platform. I think it's great. Mark makes, in his minds,

00:17:52.840 very cogent arguments, I think. I think they're pure madness, and that's why I want more people

00:17:58.920 to listen to him. He did an 18-minute, I think, open on Fox last night, where he's systematic,

00:18:05.920 because he's a constant, you know, he's a lawyer. He walked through his case, you know,

00:18:10.880 beat by beat of why we should go kinetic now, and not just why we should do it, that we have to do it.

00:18:18.160 This is a perfect time. We'll never see this time again, and we have to go kinetic. We have to use

00:18:22.820 American military force to decapitate the regime, the Iranian regime, and then we have to, I guess,

00:18:31.000 back whatever group comes together to try to put it back together again. My argument is that use

00:18:35.440 economic sanctions. I think we ought to block the oil, but the Iranian people put these guys in 1.00

00:18:42.120 charge, and I understand there's a lot of bloodshed in the streets, but hey, guess what? You're trying to

00:18:46.820 overthrow a government that you put in, and you were looking for an Islamic republic. When you look 0.98

00:18:52.140 at Islamic republics, they're kind of totalitarian, so you got what you paid for, and now you deal 1.00

00:18:57.580 with it. Mark Levin takes a very different path, and you actually retweeted, where I try to be

00:19:04.160 magnanimous and say, Mark, you should watch it, because he makes the best case why we shouldn't go

00:19:08.900 kinetic. You actually say, I think you called it, what, moronic? What did you say? You were quite, 0.99

00:19:14.340 you were very snippy, Kurt Mills. For such a nice guy, you took a real ledger. What'd you say?

00:19:19.720 I said it was a sermon of a lunatic. 1.00

00:19:22.320 Sermon of a lunatic. Why did you say that, sir? 0.98

00:19:27.100 I mean, obviously, I mean, he does his opening monologue, and, you know, it's, it's, he's relegated

00:19:30.840 to Fox Weekend, so you know it's the real madhouse stuff that Murdoch won't allow on the weekdays

00:19:35.980 programming. But, I mean, you know, he does his Edward R. Murrow bit, but it's basically

00:19:42.640 Edward R. Murrow if he was a bald, schizophrenic Zionist. I mean, it's really next-level stuff. 1.00

00:19:49.240 And this weekend, I would say, was the coup de grace. He said that Iran has become the North Korea

00:19:56.160 of the Middle East. Now, putting aside that Iran is, you know, yes, an autocracy, yes, a tough place

00:20:02.360 to live if you're an enemy of their regime. It's hardly North Korean. They don't have death

00:20:06.560 camps, as Levin alleged. But I think what's actually important here-

00:20:10.120 But hold on, but hold on, hold on. Hang on, but hang on. Even if they're North Korean, 1.00

00:20:13.580 we're not moving on the North Koreans. President Trump wants meetings with the North Koreans. He

00:20:18.040 wants to talk about it and put pressure on the Chinese, because the North Koreans are a vassal state, 1.00

00:20:23.660 just like you put pressure on Turkey and Russia and other people around there to bring them to the

00:20:28.480 table to negotiate. We're not in bombing. I don't- I haven't seen us bombing, you know,

00:20:33.520 bombing North Korea, sir. So they are in North Korea. Big deal. 0.99

00:20:37.480 If they have nukes, right? I mean, like, that's what autocracies have learned around the world,

00:20:42.100 that the only guarantor, the only safeguard of their regimes are to get nuclear weapons. I don't

00:20:47.220 think the Iranians are actually there. I think the Iranians have shown that they will do a deal

00:20:52.260 with this president, that they will basically abandon any serious lunge towards nuclear weapons.

00:20:58.940 They have been fighting this zero enrichment thing. But, you know, the level of enrichment

00:21:04.140 that you need to get a nuclear weapon is not the level of enrichment that they're agreeing to go

00:21:09.260 below. They're talking about 3 percent enrichment. That's not 100 percent enrichment. That's not a

00:21:13.440 nuclear weapon. And I don't think we want to set the precedent that basically the U.S. is just a

00:21:18.500 totally dishonest broker. Because then you will see other countries lunge for the bomb. You will

00:21:23.340 see if the Iranians, if their regime can survive, they will lunge for a crude weapon. And so, 0.97

00:21:27.780 ironically, the number one thing that makes the world proliferate is the kind of extreme hawk,

00:21:34.780 neocon stuff that we've been pursuing, or that Levin would prefer us to pursue. Because if the 0.92

00:21:40.180 Iranians go down, the Turks are going to go for the bomb, the Saudis are going to go for a bomb, 1.00

00:21:43.860 the Japanese are going to go for a bomb, the Koreans will go for a bomb. And I think if our goal is to 1.00

00:21:48.040 have less nuclear weapons in the world, that's a dangerous line. Some argue, like Mearsheimer,

00:21:52.820 that that actually might make the world safer. I'm not sure I'm quite there, especially because

00:21:56.520 we have the street goal of no nuclear weapon for the Iranians. And I think that can be easily 0.99

00:22:02.860 achieved. And as I've indicated elsewhere, this is actually the one thing that will get Donald Trump

00:22:08.960 the Nobel Peace Prize. He thinks it's a deal potentially with Ukraine or on Gaza. Both are too 0.95

00:22:15.760 controversial. These are European liberals, right? If he does a deal with the Russians on Ukraine,

00:22:21.080 they'll never forgive him for it. But if he actually flouts the will of Netanyahu, if he flouts

00:22:26.860 the will of people like Mark Levin, if he does a better deal, a more impressive deal with the

00:22:32.480 Iranians than Barack Obama did, that is the one thing that actually will get him the Nobel Peace

00:22:37.360 Prize. He's got the wrong nomination list right now. He's got Vladimir Putin and the leadership of

00:22:44.080 Pakistan. These are not the people you want. Okay. If this guy can pull off a Ukraine peace 0.99

00:22:50.700 deal with no American security guarantee, a Gaza deal that's rebuilding, they're already putting 0.54

00:22:55.280 big money in there with no American security guarantee. And he forces by military, potential

00:23:00.800 military might, the assets we have in theater, a deal, a meaningful deal with the Iranians.

00:23:08.180 Forget the number of priest pies. He'll go down in history as the greatest man of peace

00:23:12.060 in world history. It just, I mean, he's solved the unsolvable. And so let's give President

00:23:16.900 Trump a chance. Let's give him some runway. Let's go back to Tulsi Gabbard. This is why

00:23:21.320 I said she didn't fall out of favor with the president. She fell out of favor with that

00:23:24.940 kind of Praetorian guard that sometimes in the national security aspect during the June

00:23:30.460 and July timeframe. And they tried to run her out of there, you know, every other day. 0.98

00:23:34.840 The President Trump thinks very highly of her. He has to because she's overseeing. Cash is

00:23:39.740 doing the criminal part. She's looking at the overall stealing of the 2020 election. 0.98

00:23:44.580 And the mainstream media is absolutely incorrect. We have to get to the bottom of that because if

00:23:48.700 you don't have that, you don't have a country. And Tulsi's doing a job. And you see right now

00:23:52.300 they're trying to get her, oh my God, she's doing conference calls to Trump, conference calls

00:23:57.460 to the FBI. They are coming at Tulsi Gabbard every way possible. And that's why MAGA has to

00:24:04.100 have her back, Kurt Mills. Look, I mean, people forget in August of 2024, you know, this was

00:24:13.520 brat summer. This was the ascendance of Kamala Harris. There was an expectation that the Trump 0.53

00:24:19.680 Vance ticket could lose. And the endorsement of RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard was a crucial lifeline

00:24:26.080 in getting Trump to win. And I think if MAGA is going to be an enduring political movement,

00:24:32.040 if it's going to have an afterlife long after Trump's in office, you need to keep people in

00:24:37.380 the coalition like the Kennedys, like the Gabbards. And Gabbards, a representative of a lot of Americans,

00:24:43.860 independent-minded Americans, ex-Democrats who came to vote for Donald Trump. And not surprisingly,

00:24:49.740 she has foreign policies that were critical of previous Republican administrations, like the Bush

00:24:55.260 administration. There's a lot of people, unfortunately, again, within Trump's cabinet,

00:24:59.540 who just want to return, people like Marco Rubio, I would submit, who just want to return to the hits.

00:25:04.700 They just want to return to Pompeoism or Mike Penceism or establishment Republicanism. There's not the

00:25:10.420 demographics for it, first of all. But second of all, it's demonstrably failed. Iraq didn't work. 0.94

00:25:15.760 The global financial crisis didn't work. People are justifiably angry about the Bush Republican

00:25:22.280 legacy. And so that Trump and his allies need to cook up something new. And keeping people like

00:25:28.180 Gabbard in the fold, I think, is absolutely crucial.

00:25:31.560 Afghanistan didn't work. And don't, you know, Osama bin Laden hit the World Trade Center 0.98

00:25:36.480 on Bush's watch, and they couldn't get him in before their watch was over. They were too busy

00:25:41.380 in Iraq doing first Fallujah, second Fallujah. That had to fall to Obama. Kurt Mills, where do people

00:25:47.940 go and get you? This one's a hot one, particularly the Iran situation. Tulsi Gabbard, they're all over

00:25:52.340 her. Where do people go to get you on social media and all the great content you're putting up?

00:25:57.460 Yeah, I mean, Bush let a UBL go. Look at the Afghan papers that have been declassified. But anyways, 1.00

00:26:02.260 it's the American Conservative magazine founded in 2002 by Patrick J. Buchanan and others

00:26:08.040 against the Iraq War, conservatives and friends against the Iraq War. It is at www.theamericanconservative.com.

00:26:15.040 And my own work is at Kurt Mills, at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S on X. I'm the executive director

00:26:21.580 of our fine little magazine. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. The Afghan papers,

00:26:27.200 we cover those extensively. So many people did, and it's almost as bad as the Pentagon papers.

00:26:31.800 Not as quite, because Vietnam was even more out of control, but the Afghan situation,

00:26:35.300 you've been lied to every day. Dr. Bradley Thayer, give me a minute. We're going to go to break,

00:26:39.700 and I'm going to hold you through. The EU is so proud. They've been announcing deals with India.

00:26:45.340 Then you had the Spanish, I guess, Marxist party actually confirm what we've been talking about

00:26:49.580 here in the States, the great replacement theory. They said, hey, yes, certainly we don't want right

00:26:53.640 wingers in our country. We'd rather take migrants. You said 27 January, I think, 2026 was the official 1.00

00:27:00.800 date of the beginning of the end of Western civilization, sir?

00:27:03.800 Yes, Steve. The Tuesday, January 27th, 2026 was the day that it was murdered. You had on that day,

00:27:14.060 both the Spanish announcement of the 500,000 individuals who are going to get work permits,

00:27:19.620 which you have to multiply by six or seven times because of family unification, which is always

00:27:24.220 permitted. And then the EU reached with Modi an agreement on mobility also on January 27th,

00:27:31.780 which is going to allow Indians to come into the European Union to skilled workers, purportedly,

00:27:39.460 students and others by the millions. So Western civilization lasted for about 3,000 years,

00:27:47.460 but the European Union did its utmost to murder it a week ago. That comes six days after President

00:27:54.780 Trump at Davos on January 21st, right, touted the advantages of Western civilization and the need

00:28:02.020 to sustain Western civilization as the NSS. The National Security Strategy identified civilizational erasure.

00:28:10.640 Hang on one second. Let's just hang on for the break. Civilizational erasure. Nobody knew what that

00:28:18.600 meant when President Trump put it in there. Well, we know now. Short commercial break. Dr. Bradley

00:28:22.680 Thayer, Dr. Brian Hooker on the other side.

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00:29:58.480 I still got to get to Ed Martin. I still got to get to Laura Loomer. They're both taking

00:30:09.180 Chasse. They're taking Incomity. I did Tulsi. Christy Noem has agreed, has gone, the president

00:30:14.020 agreed. As you remember, Mike Davis and I went through the six things we can't give up on

00:30:17.680 in this fight with the Senate on ICE. And she said, hey, she's good with cameras going into 0.99

00:30:26.600 the ICE officers. I wouldn't give a ground inch to these people on anything. They're

00:30:32.020 not going to all of a sudden go, okay, they gave up something. Let's give it. That's not

00:30:34.560 how it works. I appreciate Secretary Noem. She's doing her best. She's fighting the good

00:30:40.900 fight. But I would not, I don't think we give them in a whole package if you had to. Maybe

00:30:47.780 you give them something. I'm not so sure you give them that. But they're asking for things

00:30:50.720 that destroy ICE. And so far, correct me if I'm wrong, you know, I've talked to Burquam

00:30:55.540 this morning. I talked to folks this morning. I don't think Ellison has let anybody into a jail

00:31:00.800 to get a criminal. He said, I may do it. This means like last week. Because these people,

00:31:06.140 business model, look, what Thayer's talking about, the women's, the Marxist are communists

00:31:10.900 in Spain. She was up front. She says, yes, we love replacement theory. Instead of having

00:31:15.440 conservatives right wingers, we'd rather have people, migrants from North Africa, right? 0.99

00:31:20.580 Because they can form them. This is what's happening in Minnesota. And it's not whites. 0.96

00:31:26.100 It's African-Americans and Hispanic-American citizens. That's what this great invasion 1.00

00:31:31.440 was. They want people that are more malleable. And it has to be fought. Dr. Thayer, you say

00:31:37.360 it's the end of Western civilization. Take the India part. Of course, they did a trade deal 0.98

00:31:42.840 and they're going to have different tariffs and there'll be more trade between each other.

00:31:45.880 But they put, in addition to that, a massive immigration bill, correct, of incoming to Europe, 0.93

00:31:54.720 correct? Yes. Agreement on mobility, including having facilities in India to accelerate the

00:32:03.460 movement of Indians into the EU. That will be largely to Ireland, of course, because English 1.00

00:32:10.400 speaking and access to the UK. So, absolutely. Steve, there's a civil war going on in Western

00:32:17.800 civilization between those who want to sustain Western civilization. That's President Trump

00:32:22.640 and the NSS and those who want to destroy it. And that's Spanish politicians. It's Ursula von der Leyen.

00:32:30.180 It's the European Union. Keir Starmer. Most politicians, most of the elite level in Europe,

00:32:37.760 want to do everything that they can do to continue their hard authoritarianism and secondly, continue

00:32:45.720 immigration and thirdly, never change that policy. Nothing can ever be allowed to stop more immigration 0.56

00:32:53.740 into the EU, Canada as well. And thankfully, we stopped that in the US. So, it's time to take the

00:33:03.160 gloves off with the European Union. This clash has been building for some time, but it's now to take

00:33:10.780 the NSS seriously. This is a national security threat. And that means it's time for some tough

00:33:17.640 love for the European Union. It's going to involve tariffs, right? They're going to have to change their

00:33:23.880 policy. Western civilization doesn't belong to the evil mediocrities running the European Union. It

00:33:30.520 belongs to all of us. Yeah. And they don't get to destroy it. And President Trump gave the Warsaw

00:33:36.720 speech and then he gave the speech at Davos and the national security document. We've got to bounce.

00:33:41.300 You're working on a magisterial work about communism, how it's never left us. You go back in history,

00:33:46.960 but you also talked about the current times. I can't wait till the book is out, hopefully later in

00:33:51.480 the spring, early summer. Dr. Thayer, where do people go to get your writings and your thoughts on

00:33:55.700 social media and your website? Steve, I'm at Brad Thayer and X and Bradley Thayer at Getter

00:34:00.940 and at Truth. It's, look, they don't get to destroy Western civilization. We get a vote and we vote to

00:34:08.680 save it. And that means, you know, time for some great restrictions, increased tariffs on the EU,

00:34:17.480 restricting intelligence sharing, military exercises, right? Western civilization is worth a fight.

00:34:24.040 This is the time to have it. Amen, brother. I agree with you. This goes back to

00:34:28.880 the state Senate election in Texas. The left knows we're at war. The right, the war in posse does,

00:34:37.420 but we've got to enlighten and awaken everybody on the right that we're at war right now.

00:34:41.760 And this is going to win one of two ways. We either keep this civilization and bequeath it to

00:34:46.160 future generations, or we're going to lose it. And we can lose it. Dr. Thayer, thank you.

00:34:50.220 That brings up two people, Ed Martin. And look, I don't know what's going on. Ed Martin is a great

00:34:58.100 warrior. He was head of, supposed to be, when he left the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, when Judge

00:35:05.880 Janine came in, when she got confirmed, Ed went over to Maine Justice to head up the weaponization

00:35:11.740 of government, of which he was handpicked by this guy named, let me remember, I get him. Oh,

00:35:16.820 yeah, Donald J. Trump, who happens to be president of the United States, who could not think more

00:35:21.800 highly of Ed back from the time of, in 15 and 16, when Phyllis Schlafly endorsed President Trump.

00:35:30.760 And Ed Martin has been a warrior since then. He's one of the toughest hombres I've ever met.

00:35:34.800 And now there's a Washington Post story that says today that Ed Martin is out of Maine Justice. He's

00:35:40.220 off of, not even not heading the weaponization, but he's not even on the weaponization working group.

00:35:46.840 I don't know how that happened. And he's now doing pardons full time and pardon. And there's

00:35:50.740 this discussion. He may go to the White House in a senior position. I'd rather have him in Maine

00:35:56.900 Justice on weaponization. I think it's good for the country. He, this guy's a total warrior.

00:36:01.580 If not, please, we got to keep him in the White House in a senior position. Ed Martin, the reason

00:36:07.500 after the people like Ed Martin is because Ed Martin is a fighter. Tulsi Gabbard's a fighter. They,

00:36:13.780 they single out and target the people that are the biggest fighters. And so we're going to get,

00:36:18.500 we're going to delve into this more, but it just broke today. We heard there were some

00:36:21.780 rumblings over there, but Ed Martin is supposedly, according to the media, he's out of Maine

00:36:26.200 Justice. He's off the weaponization, not simply heading it. It's off any work in the weaponization

00:36:31.300 of government committee. And he's now doing pardons, which is fantastic, but he's got a lot more capacity

00:36:37.020 than that. And we've got Ed's back and we're going to figure out or find out exactly what's

00:36:42.140 going on. If he goes over to the White House in a senior position, that's fantastic.

00:36:46.400 So why are we in Texas for a month in the run-up to this primary? Well, because on the ballot

00:36:53.540 in March, and we're going to talk about this next, basically some people that have lived under

00:36:59.840 Sharia law have, as Westerners, didn't comply with it, but saw society's crater when it was brought 1.00

00:37:06.340 in. We're going to do that the next hour in War Room, Texas, to talk about what's going on in

00:37:10.400 Texas. Now there's this proposition on the ballot to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas. And

00:37:17.560 they want to have overwhelming on Prop 10 on 3 March, so it gets on the permanent ballot, but also

00:37:24.180 the governor, Abbott, and you know, Abbott oftentimes has not been quick on the trigger of this. We

00:37:31.560 actually got clips in the next hour of Abbott, and now John Cornyn's jumping in. Abbott declared

00:37:36.180 the Muslim Brotherhood in Care as terrorist organizations. He was followed shortly thereafter

00:37:41.400 by Governor Ron DeSantis, who declared care a terrorist, Muslim Brotherhood in Care of

00:37:48.220 terrorist organizations. And look, you know, there's a lot of times, particularly when we're

00:37:52.760 after President Trump ran against him, Ron DeSantis is not my cup of tea, but Ron DeSantis

00:37:56.440 as a governor is very methodical when he does things. He's not a guy that hot foots it around.

00:38:02.060 He really thinks things through. You can see that during the pandemic. And so for Ron

00:38:06.420 DeSantis and Abbott to do it, two governors have designated terrorist organizations. Guess

00:38:10.740 what? They're following the UAE and Saudi. They're terrorist organizations. President Trump's

00:38:15.260 already designated three. I think it's Jordan, right? Egypt and Syria, branches of the Muslim

00:38:20.540 Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. I think they're still reviewing Qatar and Turkey.

00:38:26.100 Laura Loomer sued, sued Care years ago for conspiring with the previous management before

00:38:33.480 Elon took over of banning her from Twitter. There was a Breitbart article came out years

00:38:37.760 later that said that the, well, I think from the Wall Street Journal said they had documents

00:38:42.320 that that had actually happened. Yet when she sued, they lost in federal court. Of course,

00:38:47.060 these federal court guys are always defending the bad guys. They made Laura pay the legal fees, 1.00

00:38:53.500 right? I think it was 125,000 bucks of care. And since they've been designated a terrorist

00:38:59.120 organization, she did the logical thing. She went back to the court and said, hey, oh, by the way,

00:39:03.340 since they're a terrorist organization, maybe I don't have to pay the rest of the money.

00:39:06.260 And the magistrate judge, Reinhardt, remember him? The one that signed off on, signed off on the

00:39:11.260 Raid of Mar-a-Lago. You know what a scumbag that guy is. He hates President Trump. He's a never 1.00

00:39:15.400 Trumper. He basically said, no, you have to pay. Here's what I don't understand. And I would

00:39:20.640 request from the governor's office in Florida, Ron DeSantis, because I know DeSantis is a serious guy.

00:39:27.480 If you designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations, someone should look

00:39:33.440 into the situation with Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer was a warrior out there at the beginning before

00:39:38.840 Abbott, years before Abbott, and years before DeSantis came on the scene as governor to put this

00:39:45.500 up. I remember I fought at Breitbart and in the administration to designate the Muslim Brotherhood

00:39:49.920 and their cohort CARE as terrorist organizations. Now, we didn't get very far in 2017. We were busy

00:39:56.760 taking down ISIS, trying to get accommodations in the Middle East so they would go after terrorist

00:40:02.380 financing, which Qatar essentially at that time refused to do. But it was evident in talking to

00:40:07.340 people in the Gulf region, there was no doubt that the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE were terrorist

00:40:13.600 organizations when you talk to these senior level people. So I don't understand why a federal

00:40:19.040 magistrate judge. And then here's the worst news. CARE's online mocking her. They're doxing

00:40:25.380 her. They're putting up the documents about her checkbook and her banking account, I guess

00:40:30.800 her address. It just seems to me that the state of Florida or someone in President Trump's

00:40:36.080 administration ought to take a hard look at this because clearly Laura's been fighting 1.00

00:40:39.820 this fight for a long time before other people came on board. And they're targeting her because

00:40:45.360 they understand she's a hammer when it comes to this stuff. And you're going to see it get very ugly

00:40:50.360 down here in Texas. You just are. As this whole movement to ban Sharia law, to prohibit Sharia law

00:40:56.760 in the great state of Texas. And it's something that's long past due. It should have never even

00:41:01.700 gotten traction here. It has gotten traction. As you're going to see in the next hour,

00:41:05.140 it's spreading like wildfire. And it has to be stopped. You have to prohibit Sharia law. This 1.00

00:41:11.420 is not about religion. This is about a control mechanism that is just antithetical to the

00:41:17.500 constitutional republic we live in. Okay. We talked about the coalition at the beginning of

00:41:23.740 Kurt Mills brought it up of Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard. Let me bring in Dr. Brian Hooker.

00:41:29.860 Make America healthy again, sir. You guys are doing platinum level research,

00:41:34.260 which Bobby Kennedy promised. Talk to me about what you got today to share with us about vaccines.

00:41:40.420 Well, we have come up with a new article. This is a review paper where we have connected

00:41:46.820 definitively the aluminum adjuvants used in most vaccines on the infant childhood schedule

00:41:56.940 and autism spectrum disorder. We've looked at this, Steve, from a standpoint of epidemiology,

00:42:04.260 we've looked at it from biochemistry and cell physiology. We've looked at neuropathology. We've

00:42:10.040 looked at genetics. And we've even gone through a legal exercise, what's called the Bradford Hill

00:42:16.240 criteria, which is used in court to establish causation between an environmental stressor and a

00:42:23.780 medical condition. We've gone through all nine of those criteria. And when we go through that,

00:42:28.620 we have shown that aluminum adjuvants are, you know, intimately tied to the etiology of autism.

00:42:38.420 And, you know, the thing that is so insidious about this is that aluminum adjuvants are ubiquitous

00:42:44.500 in vaccines. They are used in almost every vaccine that children get between the ages of birth, if they

00:42:52.500 opt into the hepatitis B shot, until they're about two years of age. And so they're getting whopping

00:42:58.140 amounts of aluminum directly injected into their body. And it is tied to autism. It is tied to the

00:43:04.500 autism epidemic.

00:43:06.020 Why was this? We got about 30 seconds. I want to bring you back after the break.

00:43:09.880 These studies have been out there for a while. Why did no one in the government, no one at NIH or

00:43:14.300 wherever, why did no one ever tie these together? Why did take Bobby Kennedy coming on the scene with

00:43:18.880 people like you to do this? It doesn't, it doesn't seem to be, you don't, I mean, it's heavy lifting, but it's

00:43:23.740 not impossible. You could, somebody could have done this long ago. Why did they not do it?

00:43:28.280 They simply didn't do it because they didn't want to do it. They did not want to know the answers

00:43:34.480 regarding autism, the autism epidemic. And, you know, there was so much industry capture within the CDC,

00:43:42.060 within the National Institutes of Health with Fast Track and the FDA program, uh, that it behooved them

00:43:48.200 not to find that link. And we've had, you know, serial liars, uh, yeah, but that's what I want to

00:43:55.060 talk about. We get back. Let's take a short commercial break. Dr. Brian Hooker on the other

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00:45:29.380 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Okay. Dr. Brian Hooker's with me. So Dr. Hooker, here's what you got

00:45:36.620 to help me understand the audience. You know, like the department of war, old department of offense,

00:45:42.060 you know, we got into Vietnam, other things, uh, the Iraq war, people protest. Sometimes there are a

00:45:45.860 million people when we try to put nuclear weapons, purging missiles into Europe to try to defend 0.90

00:45:51.380 Europe, millions of people in, in, in central park, the financial crisis, the tea party was created,

00:45:56.720 millions of people coming to Washington DC on the financial crisis. What caused it? But the

00:46:01.780 bailouts for the wealthy. So other parts of the government, people have been very vocal about

00:46:05.900 not agreeing. One thing you never saw that was kind of CDC or, you know, and there was considered

00:46:10.440 sacrosanct that they were dealing with the straight and these professionals could seem in the white coats.

00:46:14.920 They're at these conferences. They're, they're putting out official reports. So you're telling us by

00:46:19.800 tying together all these studies that are out there, things that are, have been evident to people in your

00:46:25.200 movement for a while. And we see Bobby Kennedy, they're trying to destroy him, but we need to

00:46:31.580 actually start to identify who, when you say, Hey, they knew it, they just didn't do it. We,

00:46:36.480 we got to go to phase two on this. If we don't hold individuals accountable, and I want to hold

00:46:41.880 Fauci accountable for different things, but somehow Bobby and the team have got to pivot and say,

00:46:49.180 these people cause tremendous damage to people and families and children, but they also destroyed

00:46:56.260 the credibility of this institution, which is going to take decades to rebuild, sir.

00:47:03.120 Absolutely. You know, the authors of the coverup regarding vaccines and autism started in the 1990s,

00:47:12.340 in the late 1990s. There were individuals like Roger Bernier, Dr. Julie Gerberding, Dr. Colleen Boyle,

00:47:21.220 Frank DiStefano, Thomas Verstratton, Phil Rhodes, so many others that conspired to look the other

00:47:30.860 direction regarding autism and vaccines and conspired to, you know, commit data fraud over and over and

00:47:38.700 over again. You know, they've set autism research behind probably 30 years because of this, because

00:47:45.100 if we would have known and we would have admitted what, what, you know, I've known for since my son

00:47:50.300 was diagnosed in 1999, then we could have advanced this research. We could have saved a lot of children.

00:47:57.060 They chose not to do it. So it's really on them. Not only do we need to clean up this mess in terms of

00:48:03.600 recompense for the individuals who have been affected, but these people, you know, jail time

00:48:08.300 is too good for them. I am sorry. Wow. Amazing. Is there some point in time, I know you're going to

00:48:13.960 talk about recompense and all that. Is there some time that under Bobby, that HHS has actually come

00:48:20.060 out with a definitive report? Here's exactly who lied about this or hit it or didn't do it.

00:48:24.920 And we can actually then, people can connect to that themselves. Are you guys working on that?

00:48:29.420 That's something I've been working on for years. That's something that before Secretary Kennedy

00:48:36.040 even announces run for presidency, he's been working on that for years. I mean, there are

00:48:42.320 many, many co-conspirators in the Institute of Medicine, in the pharmaceutical industry,

00:48:48.460 in the CDC, in the National Institutes of Health. And it's time to name names. We have

00:48:53.820 everything written down. We've, you know, worked actually on several legal complaints on it.

00:49:01.160 That information needs to be published. It needs to be made public. I'm not aware of what Secretary

00:49:06.680 Kennedy's plans are to do that, but I know that information exists and it's got to come out.

00:49:12.360 We're here. Where do people go? I want people to go read this. I want to read this compilation,

00:49:16.600 how you knitted it all together from previous great research. Where do people go and what is your

00:49:21.160 social media? If you go to chd.tv and look at Good Morning CHD, you can hear more about the paper.

00:49:32.860 You can find the link to the paper. You can follow me at Brian Hooker, PhD on X, on Instagram,

00:49:40.920 or on Facebook. I have not yet been deplatformed, although I spent a lot of time in Facebook jail.

00:49:46.640 Dr. Brian Hooker, thank you, sir. Look forward to having you back. And I had tipped Bobby Kennedy,

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Bannon's War Room - February 02, 2026

Episode 5113： The Beginning Of The End Of Western Civilization; Aluminum Adjuvants, Autoimmunity, and Autism Spectrum Disorders

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