Bannon's War Room - May 14, 2026


Episode 5372: XI And President Trump Continue China Summit; The Ruthlessness Of The Chinese Communist Party Cont.

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Stephen K. Vance and Natalie Dominguez talk about the dangers of AI and the dark side of the real estate market, and why you should get into the chip chip space. They also talk about how AI is going to change the way we live and work in the future.

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00:00:01 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22 It's going to happen.
00:00:23 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26 Mega Media.
00:00:28 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:00:49 Thursday, 14 May, Year of the Lord, 2026.
00:00:52 Natalie Dominguez joins us now from Home Tidal Lock.
00:00:57 Natalie, I've been warning people in particular to get into the chip.
00:01:00 We've agreed, I think, to sell the second most powerful chips of Jensen Wang.
00:01:07 This is why it's bad having Jensen Wang on this trip, the second most powerful, as you
00:01:12 know, in order to make sure that China's not a threat in the CCP or not a threat at all
00:01:17 on artificial intelligence.
00:01:18 It's quite easy what to do.
00:01:20 We just have the political will to do it and tell them no more chips, no more 350,000
00:01:25 and students over here, no training, nothing, no money, no ecosystem. We're not building out
00:01:30 anything for you. You're not going to be competitive in this AI race. Of course,
00:01:33 we didn't do it. One of my concerns about titles, right now, Natalie, every dream people have had
00:01:42 is locked up in that home. The title is what shows you have it. We had Bill Pulte
00:01:47 on yesterday and Oren Cass. Oren Cass is the great populist economist over American Compass.
00:01:53 They are both in back of – in fact, Pulte is one of the authors of this new – the roadway to the 21st century housing to be able to get young people to afford houses because the – right now as we stand, the average age, I think, of first-time homebuyers is breaking 40 years old.
00:02:10 It's just not acceptable.
00:02:11 We've got to get it back down into the mid to low 20s.
00:02:14 One of the issues we have, though, is that you can't have 90% of your net worth because right now people say, well, Americans don't have savings.
00:02:23 they don't and that's a horrible problem however the home equity has basically been the people's
00:02:29 retirement you know the retirement money you can't have 90 percent of your of your net worth
00:02:35 you can't have every dream you've had in that home and you can't allow a scintilla of chance
00:02:42 that either a rogue lawyer a rogue accountant and now with artificial intelligence and cyber
00:02:47 And this is what Anthropic, on this Mythos preview, was arguing.
00:02:53 Hey, don't think that Anthropic, they're maybe slightly less malevolent.
00:03:00 They are malevolent, but maybe slightly less malevolent than Elon Musk and Zuckerberg, 0.98
00:03:04 but only slightly, when they warn people about this.
00:03:07 So now you actually have artificial intelligence doing its own cyber attacks.
00:03:12 This is getting so scary.
00:03:14 And I tell people, hey, for pennies a day, because once somebody gets into your title and monetize, either by selling the property and or, which I think is a higher probability, taking out another loan on your home equity and sucking all the cash out, you've got to pay it back.
00:03:30 After it happens, people don't want to hear your tale of woe.
00:03:34 You have to get ahead of this.
00:03:35 And it's only pennies a day.
00:03:37 And I've asked you to come on what you guys are doing a great and the FBI, former FBI guys, you have worked with you.
00:03:42 you have a really scary example today, and I want people to listen up to this. So go ahead
00:03:49 and take it and tell us what happened, because this ought to chill people to the marrow of their
00:03:54 bones, ma'am. Yeah, absolutely. We talk about a lot of stories that are coming up in the news
00:03:59 more recently because it's garnering more public attention, ringleaders, former real estate agents,
00:04:07 things like that. But the monumental thing about this crime is that it's so incredibly easy to
00:04:13 commit, especially post-COVID, where you can do things like sell your house online. You never
00:04:17 have to meet anyone. You can file a lot of these documents online. And then AI is making it so
00:04:22 easy to find and forge these documents. It's even less of an easy process. So we have an example
00:04:27 for you today. This report actually came in last month. We've been keeping a close eye on it.
00:04:32 A 19-year-old from Riverside, Illinois, was able to take an older gentleman's home, transfer the home into a shell real estate company's name, said that the homeowner had been deceased, and he was able to do this by harnessing the power of a website scrubbing, information scrubbing software that is supposed to be meant for good, right?
00:04:55 Most of us don't want all of our personal information online, but what he did was he
00:04:59 scrubbed the information of the homeowner so that it was, um, even less detectable long
00:05:06 term.
00:05:06 So this happened in April, 2025.
00:05:08 They only found out about it recently when the homeowner started getting some weird
00:05:13 notifications in the mail.
00:05:14 Um, because the person that had transferred this 19 year old that transferred this document
00:05:19 went ahead and actually sold the home, went through and had a $72,000 wire transfer.
00:05:25 into this shell real estate company that he created.
00:05:29 And I think it's incredibly important to understand
00:05:33 that although we do talk about these big stories 1.00
00:05:36 about these crime rings and foreign nationals
00:05:38 and things like that,
00:05:39 this is also something that just happens in your backyard.
00:05:42 A 19-year-old did this.
00:05:44 It wasn't super complicated.
00:05:45 And they harnessed the power of these, you know,
00:05:50 tools that are created for good, for evil.
00:05:53 And then not only that, the sale,
00:05:55 the $72,000 sale, all happened online. They never met anyone in person. They didn't know
00:05:59 this wasn't a real estate company. And now the homeowner, despite the teen turning himself in
00:06:05 for theft and fraud, the homeowner is still required to go through these lengthy legal
00:06:11 battles and civil battles to try to get everything restored the way it's supposed to be, this new
00:06:16 homeowner legally. It's just a big mess. Let's not bury the lead. Not only was it done online,
00:06:23 nobody talked to each other this is what for the audience the only way the guy found out he started
00:06:30 getting in the mail some some weird notices and he couldn't put it together the act had already
00:06:35 been done this is what home title lock and it's one million dollar triple lock protection put you
00:06:40 in advance you're on offense right you're you're not sitting there once you get the thing in the
00:06:45 mail your life has changed it's already changed you just don't know it then you got to engage
00:06:50 lawyers you got to fight it it takes years you're going to bleed out and nobody's gonna nobody the
00:06:55 19 year old kid is not going to reimburse you for your legal fees and not just that the angst and
00:07:01 anxiety this is the problem once you get it in the mail it's already happened you're then playing
00:07:07 this is a rear guard action or try this is why for pennies a day just go to home title lock.com
00:07:13 promo code steve they give you two weeks to try out the one million dollar triple lock protection
00:07:19 so you can kind of see it in operation.
00:07:21 Natalie and the team of professionals over there
00:07:23 will walk you through it.
00:07:24 That's why this is about as close to a no-brainer
00:07:26 as you can get, and the reason we have Natalie 0.99
00:07:28 come on here all the time. 1.00
00:07:30 Look, 90% of your net worth is tied up in it.
00:07:33 You can't play around with this,
00:07:34 particularly if you're of a certain age.
00:07:36 Let's say you're over 50.
00:07:38 You're not going to have time to make that up, okay?
00:07:41 Everything you've worked for in your entire life
00:07:43 that's tied up in that house, okay?
00:07:44 Every dream you've ever had, as I call it.
00:07:46 once that happens all of your time is taken up it's all your time and the anxiety the heart
00:07:53 attacks the strokes because oh my god some guy's gotten into taking my title and controls my home
00:08:00 this is why they've you know i i think it's great natalie what you've done the two weeks that people
00:08:04 come on for no no obligation totally free get the two weeks you see how the one million dollar
00:08:09 triple lock protection works so that you don't get caught sideways and that's a 19 year old kid
00:08:14 you're going to have 15 year old kids be able to do this artificial intelligence and cyber are
00:08:19 going to give them the tools that they need to get through the rudimentary system that we have
00:08:24 throughout the nation um natalie dominguez your thoughts yeah exactly what you said steve if if
00:08:31 this homeowner had had home title lock we would have caught it not a year later when notices
00:08:35 started showing up we would have caught it immediately any time any any change to the
00:08:40 title would have occurred we would have notified them and then what would have been able to jump
00:08:43 in and immediately started taking action against this. So the sale would have never gone through.
00:08:48 We would have caught it ahead of time. Likely this kid would have been caught probably within
00:08:52 weeks. And then not only that, the offer that you discussed that two weeks, one thing that's
00:08:57 really important is you're also going to get a free title history report. So you can make sure
00:09:01 that you're not already a victim because when was the last time you went down to the county office
00:09:04 and said, Hey, let me see a copy of my title. Let me make sure it's still in my name. So that
00:09:08 honestly is the most important part of that offer. If you guys go and do that, like Steve said,
00:09:13 it's a no-brainer it's free risk-free cancel at any time make sure that you're protected make sure
00:09:18 that you're not already a victim natalie thank you so much home title lock.com promo code steve
00:09:24 the key thing is you get to natalie dominguez and her team over home title lock thank you ma'am
00:09:28 appreciate you gonna save people a lot of anxiety dr bradley thayer i'm proud to announce that we've
00:09:38 got a book coming out and in the war room books are on a roll right now um you and actually captain
00:09:44 finnell wrote an incredible book uh what for us about a year year and a half ago that walked to
00:09:51 had the elites in the country kind of fall into these traps all the time now you've had you're
00:09:56 coming forward with a book about the hundred year war between communism and the united states of
00:10:02 america and it's very very important the latest front of that twofold number one is internally
00:10:06 and the ccp is all over that the ccp is actively involved in the internal how do i know that
00:10:14 as john solomon says the intelligence community um tulsi gabbard is going to come out they've got 0.58
00:10:20 the facts they're going to come out and release that i think 18 to 25 states were hacked by the
00:10:26 chinese communist party in the 2020 election the voter data so they could flip it to the democrats
00:10:32 and get trump out of office why they didn't want to be sitting there with trump in um in the great
00:10:38 hall of the people uh in may of 2026 that was their worst nightmare they had a belly full of
00:10:44 trump the first time that's why i just want to make sure people you have to get the critical
00:10:48 path down you have to get the facts down when president trump put lighthizer and peter navarro
00:10:55 on to negotiate a deal they took two years with um with lou uh lou ha i think what their vice
00:11:02 chairman at the time who's a chief negotiator um they spent two years in may of may night in may
00:11:09 of 2019 the deal was essentially done uh wan shishan and she had the first belt and road
00:11:16 initiative grand meeting the shanghai with cooperation council putin shows up they start
00:11:22 to go through everything they got going on with pakistan and in south asia and kind of the the
00:11:28 british east india company's predatory capitalism model in reverse okay in reverse and she had given
00:11:36 that speech on the first couple of the right before trump's inauguration back in 2017 that
00:11:41 said hey our model is different than the than the uh the treaty of westphalia model there's no longer
00:11:47 the nation state except for us it's going to be a system of networks and we're going to provide the
00:11:52 networks and we'll provide the final manufacturing you'll provide the markets when that deal when
00:11:58 they tore that deal up in our face and spit in our face and they declared a people's war in may
00:12:03 of 2019 the most important to date month in the geopolitical history of the 21st century now what
00:12:11 happened from then oh i don't know the wuhan release of the uh of the uh of the covid bioweapon
00:12:17 that a cia officer yesterday said in front of congress was suppressed the information was
00:12:24 suppressed by anthony fauci because fauci's in business with the ccp in wuhan and didn't want
00:12:29 to be accused of it oh no it wasn't a lab leak they shifted the information this is a guy a
00:12:34 whistleblower in testimony in front of rand paul we know they did the 25 states they intruded in
00:12:40 we now have the mayor of arcadia yes she's a grundune but you're going to have thousands
00:12:45 of these mayors that are basically operatives of the chinese communist party they have done
00:12:52 everything to ensure including putting biden on the payroll and hunter biden on the payroll this 0.87
00:12:56 is the laptop from hell that if properly reported would have blown up the 2020 election but the cia
00:13:04 deep state operatives came out and said no this is russian disinformation that's a bald-faced lie
00:13:10 we know it's a bald-faced lie it's a bald-faced lie then it's a bald-faced lie now and it's been 0.89
00:13:14 exposed why rudy giuliani invited me up why because i understand the ccp and their business 0.53
00:13:20 aspect and i could see in 20 minutes man the biden family's kind of bought and paid for by
00:13:25 the chinese communist party and that doesn't even include all the perversions of uh biden's son the
00:13:31 new business guy right who was who's generating the business they hate and detest president trump
00:13:37 they hate and detest the mega movement they hate and detest the united states of america most
00:13:42 importantly, and Dr. Thay, I'm going to hold you through, obviously, because I'm taking up your
00:13:47 precious airtime here by ranting. The people they hate, the Chinese Communist Party hate the most
00:13:52 are Lao Bai Jing, the Chinese people. They've murdered in cold blood a quarter of a billion 0.94
00:14:01 in their reign of terror from the forced collectivizations, the Great Leap Fords, 0.94
00:14:06 the cultural revolutions all of it the prison camps all of it all of it that does not include 0.99
00:14:15 the 450 million forced abortions 80 little chinese girls there's never been a bigger 1.00
00:14:23 collection of demons on this earth than the chinese commerce party i don't care if they 1.00
00:14:28 wear ten thousand dollar suits and give us toast and you see the running dogs of the 0.99
00:14:35 mercantilist class in this country, the big money overlords, easy money overlords of Wall Street,
00:14:42 the broligarchs, the corporate CEOs, kowtowing to them in Beijing. Short commercial break
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00:16:33 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:16:40 Birchgold.com, the turbulence in financial and capital markets, one of the reasons Scott
00:16:45 looks, Scott Besson, the president, understand that they have a calling to make sure that the
00:16:54 the global economy is hitting on all cylinders.
00:16:59 They've got the weight of the world on their shoulders.
00:17:02 There was a, after the print,
00:17:05 the inflationary print that came about because of this war,
00:17:09 because president Trump and Besson had a plan that was working until this war
00:17:13 came upon us.
00:17:15 That wholesale print the other day at 6% caused a,
00:17:19 not a great auction for 30 year treasuries.
00:17:22 and the interest rates went kind of weak demand
00:17:26 and interest rates went above 5%.
00:17:28 I don't believe you're going to get a rate cut in June.
00:17:31 I just don't see how we're going to do that.
00:17:33 All that being said, they are working on the economy nonstop.
00:17:38 But now more than ever, I think you need,
00:17:40 and particularly I want to make sure when people say the strong dollar,
00:17:42 yes, there has been a flight to quality to the dollar.
00:17:44 There's no doubt about that
00:17:45 because traditionally that happens in times of geopolitical stress.
00:17:49 but we are in beijing in beijing one of their top priorities is to unwind the breton bretonwood
00:17:58 system that was put together post world war ii with the u.s dollar as the prime reserve currency
00:18:03 because the u.s dollar although being the prime reserve currency comes with tremendous obligations
00:18:08 it also allows you to finance things that you couldn't possibly finance it's because the world
00:18:16 needs dollars they got to convert into dollars to get uh global trade done this is why the petrodollar
00:18:22 is so big it's one of the reasons the mullahs working with the chinese communist party and the
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00:19:05 the chinese just told you right there 5 000 years that was a love tap folks
00:19:11 nothing that they say is not really thought through yes you know in our 5 000th year of 0.72
00:19:18 civilization bro suck on that when i thank you when i happy birthday for 250 keep working on it 0.52
00:19:25 like that kids the kids over there 250 anyway birchgold.com slash bannon end of the dollar 0.99
00:19:32 empire working on it for five years yes it's a called shot but that's what we do here at the
00:19:38 word dr thayer you got a book coming out about the 100 year struggle against marxism communism
00:19:46 and uh freedom the the um the west the christian west uh in this ongoing struggle your assessment
00:19:56 one one thing one thing that strikes me is that the um the beginning of the speech we went to
00:20:02 thucydides trap and actually threatened us on taiwan everything will be fine as long as you
00:20:07 play ball you the declining power play ball in taiwan if you don't according to the the city's 0.90
00:20:13 trap there'll be a global conflict and we'll win so um that goes against because the chinese go 0.96
00:20:21 out of their way to be phony polite right to not have to uh basically tell the barbarians and 0.84
00:20:27 remember they think we're barbarians you wrote a book for andy marshall right of the net assessment
00:20:32 group not the net like i think the internet one the andy marshall in the pentagon was one of the
00:20:37 great four or five individuals that led to the defeat of the Soviet Union under President Reagan.
00:20:45 They think we're barbarians, and they treat us like barbarians, and now they had to tell the
00:20:50 barbarians, we're going to unify Mother China, and if you stand in the way, there's going to be a
00:20:57 problem, sir. Yeah, he did. So his remarks, of course, were very important. G's remarks were
00:21:07 extremely important. They were for, as you mentioned, his effort to establish Xi's legitimacy
00:21:14 by saying that we're the equal, and in fact, superior, not just the equal, but superior to
00:21:20 the United States, because of what we've done, our heritage, Han civilization, and its
00:21:28 accomplishments. Now, of course, that's schizophrenic for Xi, because he's a Leninist,
00:21:34 Right. And so Lenin is Leninism is a product of German thought, Russian thought, with some Georgian thrown in on that.
00:21:43 So he's either Han or he's kind of drawing from Western or he's a Westerner in terms of his Leninism.
00:21:49 So that's got to be pointed out in terms of his schizophrenic nature when he's making those types of claims.
00:21:56 Secondly, he's in decline. China is moribund in its economy, and Xi is doing everything he can
00:22:05 to establish what the communists call a new economic policy. They're trying to find some
00:22:10 economic magic that's going to rescue them from the problems of Leninism, and they're seizing on
00:22:16 AI to do that. That's going to allow them to grow their way out of their problems.
00:22:21 So when President Trump is in that room yesterday, he's really fighting a two-front war. He's got Xi Jinping, who's gunning for him, obviously, who tried to overthrow him in the 2020 election, right, through election interference.
00:22:36 But he's also facing the oligarchs that, you know, Jensen Wang, Elon Musk, etc. in that room are the guys who are trying to do what? They're trying to give Xi Jinping the way out, the new economic policy.
00:22:54 They're trying to continue the policy of engagement that made possible communist China's rise in the first place.
00:23:03 So Trump has got that in that room, right, the embodiment of the problem.
00:23:08 You've got Xi Jinping, communist leader who wants to overthrow the U.S., attempted by every means necessary to do that with President Trump in 2020, and target the American people, right?
00:23:24 while he's crushing the Chinese people, and the tech bros and company, right?
00:23:29 Tim Cook, or as Trump says, Tim Apple, right?
00:23:32 In that room, so many others who want to sustain and support the Chinese Communist Party
00:23:41 because they're making money from doing so.
00:23:45 So that, in a nutshell, is the essence of the problem.
00:23:51 And President Trump handled himself extremely well.
00:23:53 was very gracious in his remarks, but we could imagine, of course, behind closed doors. 0.71
00:24:02 A final point to make is that when Xi is talking about the Sucydides trap, he's doing what one of
00:24:08 Xi Jinping's famous expressions, or his most expression he likes to use a lot, is called
00:24:15 show the blade. And what that means is you're there to intimidate, right? You're showing a
00:24:23 a little bit of the knife to intimidate your opponent.
00:24:28 And Xi Jinping was doing that yesterday,
00:24:32 and President Trump handled that masterfully, right?
00:24:34 He's not going to be intimidated by Xi Jinping.
00:24:37 He has a recognition of their weaknesses,
00:24:40 and he recognizes that he can turn off the oxygen if he wants to
00:24:45 that's making possible Xi Jinping's efforts.
00:24:48 Why are we allowing some of the worst people on earth,
00:24:54 Elon Musk, Jensen Wong,
00:24:56 Jensen Wong's flat-out agent of influence,
00:24:58 so is Musk for the Chinese Communist Party,
00:25:01 Tim Apple.
00:25:03 Read the book, Apple and China.
00:25:04 Don't take it from me.
00:25:06 Blow off Steve Bannon.
00:25:07 Just read the book of what they've done.
00:25:10 The Chinese Communist Party can't continue to exist
00:25:13 as an economic entity 0.68
00:25:15 unless they have Western capital,
00:25:17 western know-how western technology they steal 600 billion dollars a year in industrial espionage
00:25:24 and or do these joint ventures that forces the companies to turn over the technology
00:25:29 they can't exist and they say oh they got these scary kids coming back from silicon valley hey 0.91
00:25:34 fine that's fine in six months they won't know anything we completely keep the chinese communist
00:25:41 Party going because of the mercantilist class. This is equivalent to the ambassador showing up
00:25:47 into the court in the 19th century to show all the wares of British industry, everything. They
00:25:54 showed them everything. And the imperial guy said, hey, we're not interested. The reason they said
00:25:58 they're not interested, if these guys get a foothold in here, we're done. Next thing you're
00:26:02 going to know, everybody's going to be in business with them. Now we've got the situation where the
00:26:07 the merchants are driving the boat here, right? You got Jensen, Wong, they're bragging because
00:26:13 all of a sudden they've done just below the top tier chips. We just agreed overnight to send it
00:26:21 to them. Why are we allowing the merchants to get involved in state power? Because this is between
00:26:27 two geopolitical entities that are literally fighting for world domination, sir.
00:26:33 Right. And the merchants are working against U.S. national security interests. That's the
00:26:40 fundamental point. They're helping the rise of our greatest adversary and a communist China. 0.97
00:26:49 So not only that, you know, what they're doing, of course, is at the end of the day, of course, 0.78
00:26:56 and it needs to be said, that's treasonous. They're assisting by the means that they can
00:27:01 And for their own profit, they're conducting traitorous behavior in supplying and continuing
00:27:10 to use their influence to ensure that supply continues, our greatest adversary.
00:27:17 So they need to be called out as a result of this behavior.
00:27:23 And Americans need to recognize what's happening here.
00:27:29 And it has to end, of course. So I see President Trump bringing him in that room is also expert.
00:27:37 It's genius at political warfare, Steve. And it is because President Trump is showing them
00:27:43 that it can be taken away, right? That if he chooses to, the oxygen can be removed from the
00:27:52 the room. And that's a very important point to make. It goes both ways. Xi Jinping needs their
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00:28:05 influence in Washington. And President Trump at the same time is demonstrating, of course,
00:28:11 he knows that. He knows what they're doing. It can also be taken away as well. Hang on one second.
00:28:18 We're going to go to break. Sam Faddis is going to join us. We're going to break it all down.
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00:31:47 we'll be back at 10 o'clock tonight as the uh president trump goes over to the compound of
00:31:53 where the chinese communist party have kind of lived since the uh since the revolution since
00:31:58 General Marshall and the communists in the State Department turned over the country to the Chinese
00:32:04 Communist Party in 1949. Hey, just saying. Unbelievable. McCarthy had it. Retreat from
00:32:11 victory. Retreat from victory. I got Neil McCabe of the White House and Sam Fettis. There is a
00:32:19 topic that's related, and I got to get to this. So, McCabe, you first. It was reported that a
00:32:25 raid took place on the great Tulsi Gabbard about investigations she's doing and declassifications
00:32:31 that she's doing, particularly regarding where there's a whole host of them, right?
00:32:35 And they're afraid, they're panicked about all of them.
00:32:37 But these were about MKUltra, I think, and the JFK assassination, although they're really
00:32:42 concerned about the one.
00:32:43 They're concerned about that, but they got others that they're probably more frightened
00:32:46 about.
00:32:47 And the CIA raided her office and took the documents.
00:32:50 Tell us what actually happened, sir.
00:32:55 Yeah, Steve. So the idea that, you know, some CIA team paramilitaries in full battle rattle, guns drawn, raided Tulsi Gabbard's office or facilities, that did not happen.
00:33:08 But what did happen is that there were materials held at the office of the of the director of national intelligence.
00:33:14 They were set aside. It's my understanding that they're waiting to the waiting for the declassification team to get to them.
00:33:22 And there were CIA personnel who had the access codes for that storage facility, and they went ahead and took those documents back from the office of the national director, from Tulsi Gabbard, and then took it back.
00:33:38 And so now, you know, obviously that's a big deal because the CIA works for Gabbard, but it wasn't a raid raid, but it's very significant that they would just go ahead and take stuff back, Steve.
00:33:50 hang on for a second neil let me bring in sam fattis sam you were decades at the cia just as
00:33:56 a general the cia doesn't actually believe in this whole restructuring of the intelligence
00:34:02 services that was done after 9-11 because clearly a bureaucratic reaction they've if i said this
00:34:08 politely they haven't quite bought into the fact that they report up to dni or they report they
00:34:13 don't think they report to the commander in chief but they certainly don't believe they report to
00:34:18 DNI, correct? And if there's some declassification process going on of their material, they're in
00:34:24 charge and not just Tulsi Gabbard, but the whole billet of DNI doesn't exist to them. Is that a
00:34:30 polite way to say that? Very diplomatically put, sir. I commend you. Yes, they don't really give
00:34:37 a damn what the DNI says. I mean, to the extent that they care, they designated additional people
00:34:44 at bureaucratic levels to be the ones who spend all day dealing with the dni and keeping them
00:34:50 busy and then cia just continues to march as they see fit that's that's the point they they'll send
00:34:58 some people over there they'll play the game but that's a misdirection play they're the cia and
00:35:02 you're not right i mean they the whole issue of the deep state in fact your book back almost i
00:35:09 think 10 years ago, kind of outlined it too. They're a thing unto themselves. And Ratcliffe,
00:35:14 you know, some guys say he's a good guy. Other people say he's over his head. It doesn't matter.
00:35:18 Some guy just passing through is a guy just passing through. They think President Trump
00:35:22 is just passing through, right? It's not just, and President Trump scares them the most,
00:35:27 but they think a sitting president, commander, chief is just another guy that's there for a
00:35:31 couple of years, correct? Yeah, 100%. And look, you hit the nail on the head with the director
00:35:37 of CIA himself. I mean, look, when I was in CIA, directors came and gone. Honestly, on any given
00:35:43 day, I couldn't probably have remembered who the director was because he was completely irrelevant.
00:35:49 Nothing changed when he arrived. Nothing changed when he left. Why is it so sensitive? Because
00:35:56 my checkings last night when I first heard this, I made some checkings. It's not that the CIA is
00:36:02 concerned but they are concerned they're gonna be right they don't want any of this declassive
00:36:06 but their their primary interest are not mk ultra and jfk it's what the process means there was other
00:36:13 things like wuhan and fauci and other things that they've been doing that they don't want to sign
00:36:19 off on a process that starts with mk ultra and jfk but could lead to other places they're essentially
00:36:24 saying we're the cia we're going to determine how this is going to how this is going to be done or
00:36:31 if it's going to be done, sir. Yeah, 100%. And look, the Wuhan thing, I think, is an immediate
00:36:38 and great example. Look, because it's pretty clear from what we heard yesterday and what we've heard
00:36:45 other times is the analysis said that the virus came out of a lab in Wuhan. That's where COVID 0.95
00:36:51 came from. It also said, by the way, we knew as a government that we were up to our eyeballs in
00:36:57 funding it and and had known about this lab and a million other things and okay so somebody
00:37:03 ultimately influenced cia analysis and what the reporting said on that but the fact of the matter
00:37:12 is that shouldn't be possible i mean cia prepares its analysis based on its information and the fact
00:37:20 that somebody like Fauci doesn't like what they say should be, has to be completely irrelevant.
00:37:29 They produce a product. Now, if you don't want to listen to them, that's cool. That's fine.
00:37:34 Policymakers get that. But somebody should not be able to reach in from the outside and
00:37:38 play with that product as obviously happened here. And so, yeah, of course you want to bury
00:37:45 that no you don't want people to see that your claims that you're producing objective truth
00:37:51 are are nonsensical i mean that's not what you're doing you're playing political games
00:37:57 um i want to pivot now to china and i want to talk about um the famous or infamous uh guy who
00:38:05 essentially ran or ran a big part of the cia for many decades james jesus angleton called the ghost
00:38:12 was obsessed by an informer at the highest levels of the cia that outed many of the agents
00:38:20 dealing with the with the soviet union um and uh and he basically went on a jihad internally
00:38:28 destroyed many people people committed suicide other people mysteriously died uh destroyed
00:38:35 careers because he was maniacal in defense of the cia in his mind that you had to get the mold 0.95
00:38:40 people don't talk about this our understanding and really ability to deal into the chinese
00:38:48 communist party i think it was almost 20 years ago 15 to 20 years ago that 25 of the top agents
00:38:55 we had uh embedded into the chinese communist party were outed by a mole and i believe all
00:39:01 those were in prison and or executed is that generally correct sam fatis yeah 100 we're
00:39:08 completely wiped out. In one fell swoop by someone that was a very senior level, correct?
00:39:17 Yeah. I should point out, by the way, that that shouldn't be possible to happen. Like you don't
00:39:22 walk through the front door of CIA and it's all one big giant room and anybody can access whatever
00:39:28 they want. And the more sensitive the ops get, the tighter the compartmentation should be,
00:39:34 meaning there shouldn't be any one person other than at the very top of the organization could
00:39:40 tell you who 25 assets are you have so nailed it right on the head when angleton went on his jihad
00:39:47 and i think it was later was hansen right it was they found them later right who are devout
00:39:53 catholics and and and we found out later after angleton was dead but even in that time there was
00:40:00 never one moment where 25 of our top guys were all rounded up by the kgb tortured and killed
00:40:08 and so it then put our ability to understand what was happening because we had pretty good
00:40:12 intelligence on on the soviets and what was going on so even as bad as that was it was so
00:40:19 compartmented right here no one and we haven't made it a big deal how did anyone sir understand
00:40:27 that the top 25 embeds that we had at very high levels
00:40:32 and understanding everything that these guys were doing,
00:40:36 how did they get turned out all at one time?
00:40:42 Complete breakdown in professionalism and tradecraft and operations.
00:40:46 Look, as you know, my wife is also a career case officer
00:40:49 in the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:40:51 At various points in time operating out of the same station overseas,
00:40:54 we did not know the identities of each other's assets, two people living together in the same
00:41:02 home. Why? Because there's no reason for us to know. Because information I have in my head that
00:41:09 I don't need for what I'm doing is a security risk and unnecessary. Compartmentation is everything.
00:41:15 But when you look, those standards went out the window a long time ago. Now you're just playing
00:41:21 fast and loose. And you got a lot of guys and gals involved in operations who have no idea what an
00:41:26 op is and have never been downrange. And they just think it's kind of a game.
00:41:32 Do you think that we have that the president is dealing with the top level intelligence
00:41:36 from the CIA today about what's really going on internally in China? We have a good feel for
00:41:43 what's happening internally? No, I can guarantee you that I know that we don't. The same is true
00:41:48 of Iran and all these other critical targets. I mean, the point is CIA is not supposed to turn
00:41:53 out think tank quality intel assessments. It's supposed to hand the crown jewels to the president
00:41:59 before he sits down with Xi. He ought to know Xi's cards. He ought to basically be looking
00:42:05 at his hand and know precisely what Xi intends to do and what he can do and what he can't do.
00:42:11 And the sad truth is he's flying blind. I mean, what he's getting is guesswork and
00:42:18 And again, the same quality of stuff that, you know, a hundred think tanks in Washington, D.C. can produce.
00:42:25 Yes.
00:42:26 Sam, I want to – I'll call you after the show.
00:42:28 I want to figure out tonight.
00:42:29 I'd like to get you on the live show at 10 o'clock. 0.97
00:42:32 I just want to make sure – you and the wife are on a Mr. and Mrs. Smith thing here.
00:42:36 We're not –
00:42:36 If we were, I'd be dead by now, Steve.
00:42:40 I could tell you that.
00:42:41 I would have been on the short end of that.
00:42:44 I didn't want to bring that up.
00:42:46 Sam, Faddis, Ann Magazine, your analysis and assessment from Iran to the Pacific Rim, everything's fantastic.
00:42:52 Where do people go?
00:42:54 Ann Magazine at Substack, andmagazine.substack.com.
00:42:59 Thank you, sir.
00:43:00 Dr. Bradley Thayer, where do we catch up with you, sir?
00:43:04 Steve, Brad Thayer at X or Bradley Thayer?
00:43:07 Get her in truth.
00:43:08 We'll see you back here at 10 o'clock tonight.
00:43:10 We're going to be live once again to cover over the Chinese Communist Party leadership compound where President Trump will be.
00:43:19 And I think there will be some one-on-ones.
00:43:21 Rubio is saying right now it hasn't been a big deal.
00:43:23 I think it will be a big deal in the closing meetings.
00:43:25 That's where I think they'll assess it.
00:43:28 Because we were threatened.
00:43:31 I'm not saying that.
00:43:32 That's just a – she said it.
00:43:36 Thucydides trap. 0.97
00:43:37 You would be the declining power.
00:43:38 we would be the rising power and you're going to have to deal with that
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00:45:23 Neil, we're going to get back into that story later today.
00:45:26 Also, huge news in the Middle East, huge news in the races, huge news in redistricting.
00:45:34 We're going to get to all of that.
00:45:35 I commit to you we're going to do that.
00:45:37 Neil McCabe from the White House.
00:45:39 Where do people follow you during the afternoon until you're back on the worm at 5 and then again tonight at 10?
00:45:45 Tell the White House they've got to keep that press office open, man.
00:45:48 Global news is happening all the time, particularly when the president's in.
00:45:51 I mean, come on, man.
00:45:52 What the hell is going on there?
00:45:54 Don't need a ballroom for that.
00:45:56 Where did people get you, Neil?
00:46:00 That officer was not thrilled when I asked him for a few more moments.
00:46:04 But anyway, it wasn't really a conversation at all.
00:46:06 Steve, they can find me at all the socials at Reporter McCabe, and we'll see you tonight.
00:46:12 McCabe, great job.
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