Bannon's War Room - May 14, 2026


Episode 5372: XI And President Trump Continue China Summit; The Ruthlessness Of The Chinese Communist Party Cont.


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Stephen K. Vance and Natalie Dominguez talk about the dangers of AI and the dark side of the real estate market, and why you should get into the chip chip space. They also talk about how AI is going to change the way we live and work in the future.

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00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.000 Mega Media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.900 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.620 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.020 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:00:49.820 Thursday, 14 May, Year of the Lord, 2026.
00:00:52.920 Natalie Dominguez joins us now from Home Tidal Lock.
00:00:57.760 Natalie, I've been warning people in particular to get into the chip.
00:01:00.940 We've agreed, I think, to sell the second most powerful chips of Jensen Wang.
00:01:07.600 This is why it's bad having Jensen Wang on this trip, the second most powerful, as you
00:01:12.200 know, in order to make sure that China's not a threat in the CCP or not a threat at all
00:01:17.140 on artificial intelligence.
00:01:18.140 It's quite easy what to do.
00:01:20.180 We just have the political will to do it and tell them no more chips, no more 350,000
00:01:25.540 and students over here, no training, nothing, no money, no ecosystem. We're not building out
00:01:30.040 anything for you. You're not going to be competitive in this AI race. Of course,
00:01:33.980 we didn't do it. One of my concerns about titles, right now, Natalie, every dream people have had
00:01:42.320 is locked up in that home. The title is what shows you have it. We had Bill Pulte
00:01:47.800 on yesterday and Oren Cass. Oren Cass is the great populist economist over American Compass.
00:01:53.820 They are both in back of – in fact, Pulte is one of the authors of this new – the roadway to the 21st century housing to be able to get young people to afford houses because the – right now as we stand, the average age, I think, of first-time homebuyers is breaking 40 years old.
00:02:10.460 It's just not acceptable.
00:02:11.340 We've got to get it back down into the mid to low 20s.
00:02:14.820 One of the issues we have, though, is that you can't have 90% of your net worth because right now people say, well, Americans don't have savings.
00:02:23.360 they don't and that's a horrible problem however the home equity has basically been the people's
00:02:29.280 retirement you know the retirement money you can't have 90 percent of your of your net worth
00:02:35.600 you can't have every dream you've had in that home and you can't allow a scintilla of chance
00:02:42.000 that either a rogue lawyer a rogue accountant and now with artificial intelligence and cyber
00:02:47.600 And this is what Anthropic, on this Mythos preview, was arguing.
00:02:53.820 Hey, don't think that Anthropic, they're maybe slightly less malevolent.
00:03:00.380 They are malevolent, but maybe slightly less malevolent than Elon Musk and Zuckerberg, 0.98
00:03:04.760 but only slightly, when they warn people about this.
00:03:07.880 So now you actually have artificial intelligence doing its own cyber attacks.
00:03:12.860 This is getting so scary.
00:03:14.400 And I tell people, hey, for pennies a day, because once somebody gets into your title and monetize, either by selling the property and or, which I think is a higher probability, taking out another loan on your home equity and sucking all the cash out, you've got to pay it back.
00:03:30.820 After it happens, people don't want to hear your tale of woe.
00:03:34.460 You have to get ahead of this.
00:03:35.860 And it's only pennies a day.
00:03:37.060 And I've asked you to come on what you guys are doing a great and the FBI, former FBI guys, you have worked with you.
00:03:42.440 you have a really scary example today, and I want people to listen up to this. So go ahead
00:03:49.440 and take it and tell us what happened, because this ought to chill people to the marrow of their
00:03:54.020 bones, ma'am. Yeah, absolutely. We talk about a lot of stories that are coming up in the news
00:03:59.960 more recently because it's garnering more public attention, ringleaders, former real estate agents,
00:04:07.200 things like that. But the monumental thing about this crime is that it's so incredibly easy to
00:04:13.000 commit, especially post-COVID, where you can do things like sell your house online. You never
00:04:17.400 have to meet anyone. You can file a lot of these documents online. And then AI is making it so
00:04:22.280 easy to find and forge these documents. It's even less of an easy process. So we have an example
00:04:27.760 for you today. This report actually came in last month. We've been keeping a close eye on it.
00:04:32.080 A 19-year-old from Riverside, Illinois, was able to take an older gentleman's home, transfer the home into a shell real estate company's name, said that the homeowner had been deceased, and he was able to do this by harnessing the power of a website scrubbing, information scrubbing software that is supposed to be meant for good, right?
00:04:55.720 Most of us don't want all of our personal information online, but what he did was he
00:04:59.380 scrubbed the information of the homeowner so that it was, um, even less detectable long
00:05:06.140 term.
00:05:06.580 So this happened in April, 2025.
00:05:08.640 They only found out about it recently when the homeowner started getting some weird
00:05:13.100 notifications in the mail.
00:05:14.640 Um, because the person that had transferred this 19 year old that transferred this document
00:05:19.340 went ahead and actually sold the home, went through and had a $72,000 wire transfer.
00:05:25.720 into this shell real estate company that he created.
00:05:29.060 And I think it's incredibly important to understand
00:05:33.420 that although we do talk about these big stories 1.00
00:05:36.460 about these crime rings and foreign nationals
00:05:38.880 and things like that,
00:05:39.720 this is also something that just happens in your backyard.
00:05:42.940 A 19-year-old did this.
00:05:44.140 It wasn't super complicated.
00:05:45.800 And they harnessed the power of these, you know,
00:05:50.800 tools that are created for good, for evil.
00:05:53.900 And then not only that, the sale,
00:05:55.240 the $72,000 sale, all happened online. They never met anyone in person. They didn't know
00:05:59.800 this wasn't a real estate company. And now the homeowner, despite the teen turning himself in
00:06:05.520 for theft and fraud, the homeowner is still required to go through these lengthy legal
00:06:11.160 battles and civil battles to try to get everything restored the way it's supposed to be, this new
00:06:16.900 homeowner legally. It's just a big mess. Let's not bury the lead. Not only was it done online,
00:06:23.500 nobody talked to each other this is what for the audience the only way the guy found out he started
00:06:30.940 getting in the mail some some weird notices and he couldn't put it together the act had already
00:06:35.500 been done this is what home title lock and it's one million dollar triple lock protection put you
00:06:40.980 in advance you're on offense right you're you're not sitting there once you get the thing in the
00:06:45.820 mail your life has changed it's already changed you just don't know it then you got to engage
00:06:50.740 lawyers you got to fight it it takes years you're going to bleed out and nobody's gonna nobody the
00:06:55.760 19 year old kid is not going to reimburse you for your legal fees and not just that the angst and
00:07:01.300 anxiety this is the problem once you get it in the mail it's already happened you're then playing
00:07:07.560 this is a rear guard action or try this is why for pennies a day just go to home title lock.com
00:07:13.340 promo code steve they give you two weeks to try out the one million dollar triple lock protection
00:07:19.160 so you can kind of see it in operation.
00:07:21.580 Natalie and the team of professionals over there
00:07:23.260 will walk you through it.
00:07:24.440 That's why this is about as close to a no-brainer
00:07:26.500 as you can get, and the reason we have Natalie 0.99
00:07:28.380 come on here all the time. 1.00
00:07:30.980 Look, 90% of your net worth is tied up in it.
00:07:33.420 You can't play around with this,
00:07:34.920 particularly if you're of a certain age.
00:07:36.760 Let's say you're over 50.
00:07:38.220 You're not going to have time to make that up, okay?
00:07:41.140 Everything you've worked for in your entire life
00:07:43.100 that's tied up in that house, okay?
00:07:44.780 Every dream you've ever had, as I call it.
00:07:46.660 once that happens all of your time is taken up it's all your time and the anxiety the heart
00:07:53.880 attacks the strokes because oh my god some guy's gotten into taking my title and controls my home
00:08:00.000 this is why they've you know i i think it's great natalie what you've done the two weeks that people
00:08:04.760 come on for no no obligation totally free get the two weeks you see how the one million dollar
00:08:09.900 triple lock protection works so that you don't get caught sideways and that's a 19 year old kid
00:08:14.860 you're going to have 15 year old kids be able to do this artificial intelligence and cyber are
00:08:19.020 going to give them the tools that they need to get through the rudimentary system that we have
00:08:24.060 throughout the nation um natalie dominguez your thoughts yeah exactly what you said steve if if
00:08:31.420 this homeowner had had home title lock we would have caught it not a year later when notices
00:08:35.920 started showing up we would have caught it immediately any time any any change to the
00:08:40.520 title would have occurred we would have notified them and then what would have been able to jump
00:08:43.880 in and immediately started taking action against this. So the sale would have never gone through.
00:08:48.640 We would have caught it ahead of time. Likely this kid would have been caught probably within
00:08:52.160 weeks. And then not only that, the offer that you discussed that two weeks, one thing that's
00:08:57.620 really important is you're also going to get a free title history report. So you can make sure
00:09:01.320 that you're not already a victim because when was the last time you went down to the county office
00:09:04.660 and said, Hey, let me see a copy of my title. Let me make sure it's still in my name. So that
00:09:08.700 honestly is the most important part of that offer. If you guys go and do that, like Steve said,
00:09:13.040 it's a no-brainer it's free risk-free cancel at any time make sure that you're protected make sure
00:09:18.820 that you're not already a victim natalie thank you so much home title lock.com promo code steve
00:09:24.520 the key thing is you get to natalie dominguez and her team over home title lock thank you ma'am
00:09:28.760 appreciate you gonna save people a lot of anxiety dr bradley thayer i'm proud to announce that we've
00:09:38.700 got a book coming out and in the war room books are on a roll right now um you and actually captain
00:09:44.960 finnell wrote an incredible book uh what for us about a year year and a half ago that walked to
00:09:51.420 had the elites in the country kind of fall into these traps all the time now you've had you're
00:09:56.700 coming forward with a book about the hundred year war between communism and the united states of
00:10:02.140 america and it's very very important the latest front of that twofold number one is internally
00:10:06.760 and the ccp is all over that the ccp is actively involved in the internal how do i know that
00:10:14.260 as john solomon says the intelligence community um tulsi gabbard is going to come out they've got 0.58
00:10:20.540 the facts they're going to come out and release that i think 18 to 25 states were hacked by the
00:10:26.700 chinese communist party in the 2020 election the voter data so they could flip it to the democrats
00:10:32.480 and get trump out of office why they didn't want to be sitting there with trump in um in the great
00:10:38.460 hall of the people uh in may of 2026 that was their worst nightmare they had a belly full of
00:10:44.200 trump the first time that's why i just want to make sure people you have to get the critical
00:10:48.860 path down you have to get the facts down when president trump put lighthizer and peter navarro
00:10:55.280 on to negotiate a deal they took two years with um with lou uh lou ha i think what their vice
00:11:02.560 chairman at the time who's a chief negotiator um they spent two years in may of may night in may
00:11:09.680 of 2019 the deal was essentially done uh wan shishan and she had the first belt and road
00:11:16.160 initiative grand meeting the shanghai with cooperation council putin shows up they start
00:11:22.780 to go through everything they got going on with pakistan and in south asia and kind of the the
00:11:28.160 british east india company's predatory capitalism model in reverse okay in reverse and she had given
00:11:36.040 that speech on the first couple of the right before trump's inauguration back in 2017 that
00:11:41.420 said hey our model is different than the than the uh the treaty of westphalia model there's no longer
00:11:47.680 the nation state except for us it's going to be a system of networks and we're going to provide the
00:11:52.400 networks and we'll provide the final manufacturing you'll provide the markets when that deal when
00:11:58.000 they tore that deal up in our face and spit in our face and they declared a people's war in may
00:12:03.740 of 2019 the most important to date month in the geopolitical history of the 21st century now what
00:12:11.360 happened from then oh i don't know the wuhan release of the uh of the uh of the covid bioweapon
00:12:17.980 that a cia officer yesterday said in front of congress was suppressed the information was
00:12:24.040 suppressed by anthony fauci because fauci's in business with the ccp in wuhan and didn't want
00:12:29.540 to be accused of it oh no it wasn't a lab leak they shifted the information this is a guy a
00:12:34.040 whistleblower in testimony in front of rand paul we know they did the 25 states they intruded in
00:12:40.800 we now have the mayor of arcadia yes she's a grundune but you're going to have thousands
00:12:45.360 of these mayors that are basically operatives of the chinese communist party they have done
00:12:52.280 everything to ensure including putting biden on the payroll and hunter biden on the payroll this 0.87
00:12:56.800 is the laptop from hell that if properly reported would have blown up the 2020 election but the cia
00:13:04.320 deep state operatives came out and said no this is russian disinformation that's a bald-faced lie
00:13:10.180 we know it's a bald-faced lie it's a bald-faced lie then it's a bald-faced lie now and it's been 0.89
00:13:14.120 exposed why rudy giuliani invited me up why because i understand the ccp and their business 0.53
00:13:20.120 aspect and i could see in 20 minutes man the biden family's kind of bought and paid for by
00:13:25.760 the chinese communist party and that doesn't even include all the perversions of uh biden's son the
00:13:31.580 new business guy right who was who's generating the business they hate and detest president trump
00:13:37.960 they hate and detest the mega movement they hate and detest the united states of america most
00:13:42.900 importantly, and Dr. Thay, I'm going to hold you through, obviously, because I'm taking up your
00:13:47.320 precious airtime here by ranting. The people they hate, the Chinese Communist Party hate the most
00:13:52.960 are Lao Bai Jing, the Chinese people. They've murdered in cold blood a quarter of a billion 0.94
00:14:01.340 in their reign of terror from the forced collectivizations, the Great Leap Fords, 0.94
00:14:06.820 the cultural revolutions all of it the prison camps all of it all of it that does not include 0.99
00:14:15.120 the 450 million forced abortions 80 little chinese girls there's never been a bigger 1.00
00:14:23.760 collection of demons on this earth than the chinese commerce party i don't care if they 1.00
00:14:28.680 wear ten thousand dollar suits and give us toast and you see the running dogs of the 0.99
00:14:35.780 mercantilist class in this country, the big money overlords, easy money overlords of Wall Street,
00:14:42.840 the broligarchs, the corporate CEOs, kowtowing to them in Beijing. Short commercial break
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00:16:33.660 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:16:40.380 Birchgold.com, the turbulence in financial and capital markets, one of the reasons Scott
00:16:45.580 looks, Scott Besson, the president, understand that they have a calling to make sure that the
00:16:54.560 the global economy is hitting on all cylinders.
00:16:59.560 They've got the weight of the world on their shoulders.
00:17:02.160 There was a, after the print,
00:17:05.060 the inflationary print that came about because of this war,
00:17:09.600 because president Trump and Besson had a plan that was working until this war
00:17:13.620 came upon us.
00:17:15.060 That wholesale print the other day at 6% caused a,
00:17:19.400 not a great auction for 30 year treasuries.
00:17:22.860 and the interest rates went kind of weak demand
00:17:26.660 and interest rates went above 5%.
00:17:28.620 I don't believe you're going to get a rate cut in June.
00:17:31.160 I just don't see how we're going to do that.
00:17:33.000 All that being said, they are working on the economy nonstop.
00:17:38.540 But now more than ever, I think you need,
00:17:40.520 and particularly I want to make sure when people say the strong dollar,
00:17:42.640 yes, there has been a flight to quality to the dollar.
00:17:44.920 There's no doubt about that
00:17:45.780 because traditionally that happens in times of geopolitical stress.
00:17:49.560 but we are in beijing in beijing one of their top priorities is to unwind the breton bretonwood
00:17:58.580 system that was put together post world war ii with the u.s dollar as the prime reserve currency
00:18:03.920 because the u.s dollar although being the prime reserve currency comes with tremendous obligations
00:18:08.960 it also allows you to finance things that you couldn't possibly finance it's because the world
00:18:16.980 needs dollars they got to convert into dollars to get uh global trade done this is why the petrodollar
00:18:22.180 is so big it's one of the reasons the mullahs working with the chinese communist party and the
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00:19:05.840 the chinese just told you right there 5 000 years that was a love tap folks
00:19:11.160 nothing that they say is not really thought through yes you know in our 5 000th year of 0.72
00:19:18.220 civilization bro suck on that when i thank you when i happy birthday for 250 keep working on it 0.52
00:19:25.460 like that kids the kids over there 250 anyway birchgold.com slash bannon end of the dollar 0.99
00:19:32.860 empire working on it for five years yes it's a called shot but that's what we do here at the
00:19:38.760 word dr thayer you got a book coming out about the 100 year struggle against marxism communism
00:19:46.000 and uh freedom the the um the west the christian west uh in this ongoing struggle your assessment
00:19:56.380 one one thing one thing that strikes me is that the um the beginning of the speech we went to
00:20:02.300 thucydides trap and actually threatened us on taiwan everything will be fine as long as you
00:20:07.800 play ball you the declining power play ball in taiwan if you don't according to the the city's 0.90
00:20:13.300 trap there'll be a global conflict and we'll win so um that goes against because the chinese go 0.96
00:20:21.060 out of their way to be phony polite right to not have to uh basically tell the barbarians and 0.84
00:20:27.740 remember they think we're barbarians you wrote a book for andy marshall right of the net assessment
00:20:32.980 group not the net like i think the internet one the andy marshall in the pentagon was one of the
00:20:37.660 great four or five individuals that led to the defeat of the Soviet Union under President Reagan.
00:20:45.640 They think we're barbarians, and they treat us like barbarians, and now they had to tell the
00:20:50.920 barbarians, we're going to unify Mother China, and if you stand in the way, there's going to be a
00:20:57.000 problem, sir. Yeah, he did. So his remarks, of course, were very important. G's remarks were
00:21:07.440 extremely important. They were for, as you mentioned, his effort to establish Xi's legitimacy
00:21:14.760 by saying that we're the equal, and in fact, superior, not just the equal, but superior to
00:21:20.580 the United States, because of what we've done, our heritage, Han civilization, and its
00:21:28.480 accomplishments. Now, of course, that's schizophrenic for Xi, because he's a Leninist,
00:21:34.040 Right. And so Lenin is Leninism is a product of German thought, Russian thought, with some Georgian thrown in on that.
00:21:43.340 So he's either Han or he's kind of drawing from Western or he's a Westerner in terms of his Leninism.
00:21:49.980 So that's got to be pointed out in terms of his schizophrenic nature when he's making those types of claims.
00:21:56.960 Secondly, he's in decline. China is moribund in its economy, and Xi is doing everything he can
00:22:05.160 to establish what the communists call a new economic policy. They're trying to find some
00:22:10.740 economic magic that's going to rescue them from the problems of Leninism, and they're seizing on
00:22:16.100 AI to do that. That's going to allow them to grow their way out of their problems.
00:22:21.800 So when President Trump is in that room yesterday, he's really fighting a two-front war. He's got Xi Jinping, who's gunning for him, obviously, who tried to overthrow him in the 2020 election, right, through election interference.
00:22:36.980 But he's also facing the oligarchs that, you know, Jensen Wang, Elon Musk, etc. in that room are the guys who are trying to do what? They're trying to give Xi Jinping the way out, the new economic policy.
00:22:54.400 They're trying to continue the policy of engagement that made possible communist China's rise in the first place.
00:23:03.980 So Trump has got that in that room, right, the embodiment of the problem.
00:23:08.260 You've got Xi Jinping, communist leader who wants to overthrow the U.S., attempted by every means necessary to do that with President Trump in 2020, and target the American people, right?
00:23:24.400 while he's crushing the Chinese people, and the tech bros and company, right?
00:23:29.700 Tim Cook, or as Trump says, Tim Apple, right?
00:23:32.620 In that room, so many others who want to sustain and support the Chinese Communist Party
00:23:41.020 because they're making money from doing so.
00:23:45.700 So that, in a nutshell, is the essence of the problem.
00:23:51.060 And President Trump handled himself extremely well.
00:23:53.660 was very gracious in his remarks, but we could imagine, of course, behind closed doors. 0.71
00:24:02.340 A final point to make is that when Xi is talking about the Sucydides trap, he's doing what one of
00:24:08.500 Xi Jinping's famous expressions, or his most expression he likes to use a lot, is called
00:24:15.220 show the blade. And what that means is you're there to intimidate, right? You're showing a
00:24:23.640 a little bit of the knife to intimidate your opponent.
00:24:28.900 And Xi Jinping was doing that yesterday,
00:24:32.000 and President Trump handled that masterfully, right?
00:24:34.920 He's not going to be intimidated by Xi Jinping.
00:24:37.640 He has a recognition of their weaknesses,
00:24:40.820 and he recognizes that he can turn off the oxygen if he wants to
00:24:45.420 that's making possible Xi Jinping's efforts.
00:24:48.600 Why are we allowing some of the worst people on earth,
00:24:54.740 Elon Musk, Jensen Wong,
00:24:56.680 Jensen Wong's flat-out agent of influence,
00:24:58.680 so is Musk for the Chinese Communist Party,
00:25:01.960 Tim Apple.
00:25:03.380 Read the book, Apple and China.
00:25:04.920 Don't take it from me.
00:25:06.140 Blow off Steve Bannon.
00:25:07.340 Just read the book of what they've done.
00:25:10.820 The Chinese Communist Party can't continue to exist
00:25:13.800 as an economic entity 0.68
00:25:15.800 unless they have Western capital,
00:25:17.500 western know-how western technology they steal 600 billion dollars a year in industrial espionage
00:25:24.380 and or do these joint ventures that forces the companies to turn over the technology
00:25:29.800 they can't exist and they say oh they got these scary kids coming back from silicon valley hey 0.91
00:25:34.740 fine that's fine in six months they won't know anything we completely keep the chinese communist
00:25:41.800 Party going because of the mercantilist class. This is equivalent to the ambassador showing up
00:25:47.940 into the court in the 19th century to show all the wares of British industry, everything. They
00:25:54.180 showed them everything. And the imperial guy said, hey, we're not interested. The reason they said
00:25:58.560 they're not interested, if these guys get a foothold in here, we're done. Next thing you're
00:26:02.960 going to know, everybody's going to be in business with them. Now we've got the situation where the
00:26:07.200 the merchants are driving the boat here, right? You got Jensen, Wong, they're bragging because
00:26:13.080 all of a sudden they've done just below the top tier chips. We just agreed overnight to send it
00:26:21.380 to them. Why are we allowing the merchants to get involved in state power? Because this is between
00:26:27.580 two geopolitical entities that are literally fighting for world domination, sir.
00:26:33.320 Right. And the merchants are working against U.S. national security interests. That's the
00:26:40.340 fundamental point. They're helping the rise of our greatest adversary and a communist China. 0.97
00:26:49.560 So not only that, you know, what they're doing, of course, is at the end of the day, of course, 0.78
00:26:56.280 and it needs to be said, that's treasonous. They're assisting by the means that they can
00:27:01.220 And for their own profit, they're conducting traitorous behavior in supplying and continuing
00:27:10.680 to use their influence to ensure that supply continues, our greatest adversary.
00:27:17.880 So they need to be called out as a result of this behavior.
00:27:23.960 And Americans need to recognize what's happening here.
00:27:29.120 And it has to end, of course. So I see President Trump bringing him in that room is also expert.
00:27:37.760 It's genius at political warfare, Steve. And it is because President Trump is showing them
00:27:43.600 that it can be taken away, right? That if he chooses to, the oxygen can be removed from the
00:27:52.240 the room. And that's a very important point to make. It goes both ways. Xi Jinping needs their
00:27:59.480 investment. He needs their money. He needs the intellectual capital. He needs their political
00:28:05.540 influence in Washington. And President Trump at the same time is demonstrating, of course,
00:28:11.340 he knows that. He knows what they're doing. It can also be taken away as well. Hang on one second.
00:28:18.960 We're going to go to break. Sam Faddis is going to join us. We're going to break it all down.
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00:31:47.260 we'll be back at 10 o'clock tonight as the uh president trump goes over to the compound of
00:31:53.420 where the chinese communist party have kind of lived since the uh since the revolution since
00:31:58.300 General Marshall and the communists in the State Department turned over the country to the Chinese
00:32:04.020 Communist Party in 1949. Hey, just saying. Unbelievable. McCarthy had it. Retreat from
00:32:11.720 victory. Retreat from victory. I got Neil McCabe of the White House and Sam Fettis. There is a
00:32:19.200 topic that's related, and I got to get to this. So, McCabe, you first. It was reported that a
00:32:25.000 raid took place on the great Tulsi Gabbard about investigations she's doing and declassifications
00:32:31.500 that she's doing, particularly regarding where there's a whole host of them, right?
00:32:35.480 And they're afraid, they're panicked about all of them.
00:32:37.320 But these were about MKUltra, I think, and the JFK assassination, although they're really
00:32:42.040 concerned about the one.
00:32:43.120 They're concerned about that, but they got others that they're probably more frightened
00:32:46.660 about.
00:32:47.520 And the CIA raided her office and took the documents.
00:32:50.840 Tell us what actually happened, sir.
00:32:55.000 Yeah, Steve. So the idea that, you know, some CIA team paramilitaries in full battle rattle, guns drawn, raided Tulsi Gabbard's office or facilities, that did not happen.
00:33:08.320 But what did happen is that there were materials held at the office of the of the director of national intelligence.
00:33:14.720 They were set aside. It's my understanding that they're waiting to the waiting for the declassification team to get to them.
00:33:22.980 And there were CIA personnel who had the access codes for that storage facility, and they went ahead and took those documents back from the office of the national director, from Tulsi Gabbard, and then took it back.
00:33:38.460 And so now, you know, obviously that's a big deal because the CIA works for Gabbard, but it wasn't a raid raid, but it's very significant that they would just go ahead and take stuff back, Steve.
00:33:50.000 hang on for a second neil let me bring in sam fattis sam you were decades at the cia just as
00:33:56.920 a general the cia doesn't actually believe in this whole restructuring of the intelligence
00:34:02.200 services that was done after 9-11 because clearly a bureaucratic reaction they've if i said this
00:34:08.620 politely they haven't quite bought into the fact that they report up to dni or they report they
00:34:13.960 don't think they report to the commander in chief but they certainly don't believe they report to
00:34:18.100 DNI, correct? And if there's some declassification process going on of their material, they're in
00:34:24.280 charge and not just Tulsi Gabbard, but the whole billet of DNI doesn't exist to them. Is that a
00:34:30.640 polite way to say that? Very diplomatically put, sir. I commend you. Yes, they don't really give
00:34:37.220 a damn what the DNI says. I mean, to the extent that they care, they designated additional people
00:34:44.560 at bureaucratic levels to be the ones who spend all day dealing with the dni and keeping them
00:34:50.700 busy and then cia just continues to march as they see fit that's that's the point they they'll send
00:34:58.100 some people over there they'll play the game but that's a misdirection play they're the cia and
00:35:02.740 you're not right i mean they the whole issue of the deep state in fact your book back almost i
00:35:09.280 think 10 years ago, kind of outlined it too. They're a thing unto themselves. And Ratcliffe,
00:35:14.840 you know, some guys say he's a good guy. Other people say he's over his head. It doesn't matter.
00:35:18.840 Some guy just passing through is a guy just passing through. They think President Trump
00:35:22.580 is just passing through, right? It's not just, and President Trump scares them the most,
00:35:27.620 but they think a sitting president, commander, chief is just another guy that's there for a
00:35:31.360 couple of years, correct? Yeah, 100%. And look, you hit the nail on the head with the director
00:35:37.200 of CIA himself. I mean, look, when I was in CIA, directors came and gone. Honestly, on any given
00:35:43.160 day, I couldn't probably have remembered who the director was because he was completely irrelevant.
00:35:49.520 Nothing changed when he arrived. Nothing changed when he left. Why is it so sensitive? Because
00:35:56.720 my checkings last night when I first heard this, I made some checkings. It's not that the CIA is
00:36:02.900 concerned but they are concerned they're gonna be right they don't want any of this declassive
00:36:06.180 but their their primary interest are not mk ultra and jfk it's what the process means there was other
00:36:13.220 things like wuhan and fauci and other things that they've been doing that they don't want to sign
00:36:19.300 off on a process that starts with mk ultra and jfk but could lead to other places they're essentially
00:36:24.980 saying we're the cia we're going to determine how this is going to how this is going to be done or
00:36:31.260 if it's going to be done, sir. Yeah, 100%. And look, the Wuhan thing, I think, is an immediate
00:36:38.440 and great example. Look, because it's pretty clear from what we heard yesterday and what we've heard
00:36:45.260 other times is the analysis said that the virus came out of a lab in Wuhan. That's where COVID 0.95
00:36:51.920 came from. It also said, by the way, we knew as a government that we were up to our eyeballs in
00:36:57.520 funding it and and had known about this lab and a million other things and okay so somebody
00:37:03.860 ultimately influenced cia analysis and what the reporting said on that but the fact of the matter
00:37:12.440 is that shouldn't be possible i mean cia prepares its analysis based on its information and the fact
00:37:20.500 that somebody like Fauci doesn't like what they say should be, has to be completely irrelevant.
00:37:29.380 They produce a product. Now, if you don't want to listen to them, that's cool. That's fine.
00:37:34.120 Policymakers get that. But somebody should not be able to reach in from the outside and
00:37:38.900 play with that product as obviously happened here. And so, yeah, of course you want to bury
00:37:45.160 that no you don't want people to see that your claims that you're producing objective truth
00:37:51.560 are are nonsensical i mean that's not what you're doing you're playing political games
00:37:57.400 um i want to pivot now to china and i want to talk about um the famous or infamous uh guy who
00:38:05.880 essentially ran or ran a big part of the cia for many decades james jesus angleton called the ghost
00:38:12.840 was obsessed by an informer at the highest levels of the cia that outed many of the agents
00:38:20.860 dealing with the with the soviet union um and uh and he basically went on a jihad internally
00:38:28.480 destroyed many people people committed suicide other people mysteriously died uh destroyed
00:38:35.580 careers because he was maniacal in defense of the cia in his mind that you had to get the mold 0.95
00:38:40.800 people don't talk about this our understanding and really ability to deal into the chinese
00:38:48.200 communist party i think it was almost 20 years ago 15 to 20 years ago that 25 of the top agents
00:38:55.560 we had uh embedded into the chinese communist party were outed by a mole and i believe all
00:39:01.600 those were in prison and or executed is that generally correct sam fatis yeah 100 we're
00:39:08.540 completely wiped out. In one fell swoop by someone that was a very senior level, correct?
00:39:17.600 Yeah. I should point out, by the way, that that shouldn't be possible to happen. Like you don't
00:39:22.860 walk through the front door of CIA and it's all one big giant room and anybody can access whatever
00:39:28.140 they want. And the more sensitive the ops get, the tighter the compartmentation should be,
00:39:34.220 meaning there shouldn't be any one person other than at the very top of the organization could
00:39:40.500 tell you who 25 assets are you have so nailed it right on the head when angleton went on his jihad
00:39:47.860 and i think it was later was hansen right it was they found them later right who are devout
00:39:53.880 catholics and and and we found out later after angleton was dead but even in that time there was
00:40:00.780 never one moment where 25 of our top guys were all rounded up by the kgb tortured and killed
00:40:08.060 and so it then put our ability to understand what was happening because we had pretty good
00:40:12.660 intelligence on on the soviets and what was going on so even as bad as that was it was so
00:40:19.440 compartmented right here no one and we haven't made it a big deal how did anyone sir understand
00:40:27.620 that the top 25 embeds that we had at very high levels
00:40:32.740 and understanding everything that these guys were doing,
00:40:36.060 how did they get turned out all at one time?
00:40:42.260 Complete breakdown in professionalism and tradecraft and operations.
00:40:46.220 Look, as you know, my wife is also a career case officer
00:40:49.400 in the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:40:51.240 At various points in time operating out of the same station overseas,
00:40:54.980 we did not know the identities of each other's assets, two people living together in the same
00:41:02.320 home. Why? Because there's no reason for us to know. Because information I have in my head that
00:41:09.180 I don't need for what I'm doing is a security risk and unnecessary. Compartmentation is everything.
00:41:15.920 But when you look, those standards went out the window a long time ago. Now you're just playing
00:41:21.740 fast and loose. And you got a lot of guys and gals involved in operations who have no idea what an
00:41:26.840 op is and have never been downrange. And they just think it's kind of a game.
00:41:32.740 Do you think that we have that the president is dealing with the top level intelligence
00:41:36.620 from the CIA today about what's really going on internally in China? We have a good feel for
00:41:43.000 what's happening internally? No, I can guarantee you that I know that we don't. The same is true
00:41:48.900 of Iran and all these other critical targets. I mean, the point is CIA is not supposed to turn
00:41:53.480 out think tank quality intel assessments. It's supposed to hand the crown jewels to the president
00:41:59.020 before he sits down with Xi. He ought to know Xi's cards. He ought to basically be looking
00:42:05.120 at his hand and know precisely what Xi intends to do and what he can do and what he can't do.
00:42:11.980 And the sad truth is he's flying blind. I mean, what he's getting is guesswork and
00:42:18.700 And again, the same quality of stuff that, you know, a hundred think tanks in Washington, D.C. can produce.
00:42:25.680 Yes.
00:42:26.400 Sam, I want to – I'll call you after the show.
00:42:28.120 I want to figure out tonight.
00:42:29.160 I'd like to get you on the live show at 10 o'clock. 0.97
00:42:32.300 I just want to make sure – you and the wife are on a Mr. and Mrs. Smith thing here.
00:42:36.020 We're not –
00:42:36.700 If we were, I'd be dead by now, Steve.
00:42:40.420 I could tell you that.
00:42:41.400 I would have been on the short end of that.
00:42:44.820 I didn't want to bring that up.
00:42:46.220 Sam, Faddis, Ann Magazine, your analysis and assessment from Iran to the Pacific Rim, everything's fantastic.
00:42:52.800 Where do people go?
00:42:54.800 Ann Magazine at Substack, andmagazine.substack.com.
00:42:59.660 Thank you, sir.
00:43:00.620 Dr. Bradley Thayer, where do we catch up with you, sir?
00:43:04.760 Steve, Brad Thayer at X or Bradley Thayer?
00:43:07.220 Get her in truth.
00:43:08.720 We'll see you back here at 10 o'clock tonight.
00:43:10.680 We're going to be live once again to cover over the Chinese Communist Party leadership compound where President Trump will be.
00:43:19.540 And I think there will be some one-on-ones.
00:43:21.140 Rubio is saying right now it hasn't been a big deal.
00:43:23.080 I think it will be a big deal in the closing meetings.
00:43:25.980 That's where I think they'll assess it.
00:43:28.800 Because we were threatened.
00:43:31.740 I'm not saying that.
00:43:32.580 That's just a – she said it.
00:43:36.000 Thucydides trap. 0.97
00:43:37.060 You would be the declining power.
00:43:38.600 we would be the rising power and you're going to have to deal with that
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00:45:23.180 Neil, we're going to get back into that story later today.
00:45:26.420 Also, huge news in the Middle East, huge news in the races, huge news in redistricting.
00:45:34.520 We're going to get to all of that.
00:45:35.740 I commit to you we're going to do that.
00:45:37.520 Neil McCabe from the White House.
00:45:39.600 Where do people follow you during the afternoon until you're back on the worm at 5 and then again tonight at 10?
00:45:45.140 Tell the White House they've got to keep that press office open, man.
00:45:48.340 Global news is happening all the time, particularly when the president's in.
00:45:51.580 I mean, come on, man.
00:45:52.420 What the hell is going on there?
00:45:54.660 Don't need a ballroom for that.
00:45:56.420 Where did people get you, Neil?
00:46:00.520 That officer was not thrilled when I asked him for a few more moments.
00:46:04.380 But anyway, it wasn't really a conversation at all.
00:46:06.960 Steve, they can find me at all the socials at Reporter McCabe, and we'll see you tonight.
00:46:12.020 McCabe, great job.
00:46:13.100 See you.
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