Bannon's War Room - July 24, 2026


Episode 5541： Are We Heading Towards Boots On The Ground


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In this episode of War Room, host Stephan K Banan is joined by author Jim Hooper to discuss the need for immigration reform and the need to get people back to work and into the labor force. They discuss the benefits of deporting illegal immigrants and how to get all able bodied men back into the workforce.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.000 mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself
00:00:34.860 what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country this country will
00:00:42.740 be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
00:00:47.480 okay friday 24 july year of lord 2026 this hour is packed we may be and even in the process of
00:00:58.060 going to a much broader um kinetic activity in the middle east we're going to make sure we
00:01:02.740 understand all of that and what the implications are by the way brilliant piece written on the
00:01:07.080 hooties today over gateway pundit we got jim hoffs being great to get the author to us
00:01:11.820 um we're going to be breaking down some fundamental issues have to be addressed not
00:01:16.600 not this not running around they had this powwow the other day and they leaked out i don't know
00:01:21.280 the political they tweeted out somewhere that they were telling president trump hey here's what you
00:01:25.320 need to do here's what we're going to run on the big beautiful bill and no tax on tips no tax on
00:01:30.520 social security uh no tax on overtime that's great we fully support that and even more should be done
00:01:36.700 just like border security voters have a tendency it's human nature i don't like it i don't agree
00:01:43.100 with voters have a tendency once you check a box they're kind of on to the next thing yes it helps
00:01:48.420 you for your authenticity and it helps you for the guy you know promises made promises kept that's
00:01:54.300 all great but they kind of want to go down the punch list and and let's go to the next thing
00:01:59.200 one of the crisis we have in this country nobody wants to talk about is this labor force participation
00:02:06.160 by able-bodied semen, working age men, working age men. It is a crisis. Everybody wants to kick 0.93
00:02:13.900 it under the carpet and just say something else. You want to solve a lot of the problems in this
00:02:19.640 nation and do it quickly? Let's get all able-bodied men back to work and not just in some
00:02:26.220 low-level job. Let's get them back to work and something they can build a life around,
00:02:31.140 build a family around, build a career around. You solve that problem, and that problem can be
00:02:36.760 solved. It can be solved, I'm not saying easily, but the steps to actually have a big impact on
00:02:44.600 this immediately and start to get some momentum, what we call victory begets victory, is on
00:02:49.740 immigration. All the phony and scam immigration, legal immigration, which are all con jobs and 0.81
00:02:56.820 scams, including H-1B visas. Shut it down now. Send everybody here on H-B-1 visa and their entire 1.00
00:03:03.720 family back to their source country. Tell them we appreciate the effort, but guess what? We rethought 1.00
00:03:10.240 this thing and this is not working for us. And quite frankly, you know, you don't have an education
00:03:15.420 better. You don't have a job experience better to fill that billet. So it's all a con job. It's all
00:03:19.780 a scam. You're all going home and only make those jobs available to a certain group of people. Who
00:03:25.160 with that group of people wait for it american citizens american jobs for american citizens
00:03:31.360 let me repeat this american jobs for american citizens you stop you start to deport not you
00:03:38.680 make it easier for the illegal aliens to stay here no that is amnesty okay full-on amnesty it is never
00:03:46.060 going to happen we will never ever ever agree that the american people reject that out of hand no 0.56
00:03:51.920 matter how it's glossed over, DACA, all these different programs, they all have to go because
00:03:58.480 this is a program by the ruling elite to crush wages of working class people, particularly
00:04:06.480 Hispanics and African-Americans. And so you say, well, why would they do that? They want a more
00:04:10.740 compliant, a more compliant citizenry here that is fully dependent upon them for government
00:04:18.320 handouts uh for other aspects of staying here and to get jobs it's got to stop and we can make it
00:04:26.560 stop is it easy no it's going to take focus and it's hard but we've done hard things before
00:04:32.640 we've never been beaten the only time we've been beaten is in 2018 when people took their eyes off
00:04:38.580 the ball if you go back and look we have never ever ever ever been beating including in midterms
00:04:43.400 and if we get the intensity up and the way you get the intensity up is say hey look upon further
00:04:47.840 review these are the core values and these are the core policies these consultants running around 0.55
00:04:55.520 with these tv ads these consultants now oh my gosh mandami's a marxist he's a communist
00:05:00.340 that ain't gonna work that ain't gonna work first off if you take him head on you're dealing with
00:05:06.320 a generation hasn't been taught what real capital is i haven't seen the fruits of capitalism because
00:05:10.860 they're not quite frankly in the system and mandami's sitting there going i'm gonna give
00:05:14.280 you free rent and I'm going to give you free food? People are going to vote against that right now.
00:05:19.960 That solves their affordability problem, doesn't it? I'm going to give you free stuff and I'm going
00:05:24.400 to get some other people to pay for it. No, you have to get to the root cause of this and you have
00:05:29.560 to take it on. If you blink, you're going to lose your country. Full stop. Ben Burquam, you've been
00:05:35.560 at the tip of the tip of the spear. You and Oscar Blue Ramirez put yourself in harm's way because
00:05:41.880 is you guys went down to the Darien Gap.
00:05:44.120 You went down to Central America.
00:05:45.820 You went down to Southern Mexico.
00:05:47.360 You were on the border for years.
00:05:49.160 You were on the train, right?
00:05:50.780 The beast.
00:05:51.420 You were sitting there going with the cartels
00:05:53.480 and the money and the human trafficking
00:05:55.140 and the sex trafficking and all of it.
00:05:57.580 All of it.
00:05:58.160 You saw it up close and personal
00:05:59.540 and you warned the American people about it.
00:06:01.860 And guess what?
00:06:03.020 The American people paid attention.
00:06:05.120 It was the RAV network in War Room
00:06:07.040 that was the tip of the spear and saying,
00:06:09.160 hey, here's what it is.
00:06:09.940 We're not Fox going to go down three years afterwards and sit down on the Rio Grande in McAllen, Texas and say, oh, you know, Governor Abbott's put up a thing.
00:06:18.100 That's all phony. That's all that phony crap from Fox. 0.99
00:06:20.940 You got down and did the hard work, put yourself in harm's way and assisted President Trump, laid a foundation so he could change the nation. 0.97
00:06:28.740 So, brother, you're spending time back down there and people call me up time.
00:06:32.380 Why get Burkham back down the border? Isn't that solved? No, the border part is basically solved because of President Trump.
00:06:39.780 You still got to hit it every day. The interior enforcement, the internal enforcement, the interior enforcement is not.
00:06:47.260 And that's what we have to confront now. Ben Burkham, your thoughts and observations, sir.
00:06:53.760 Yeah, Steve, I just was on the phone with Tom Holman. God bless Tom Holman.
00:06:59.020 God bless ICE. God bless all of the warriors that put their lives on the line every single day to uphold and defend the oath that they took to this Constitution and the citizens of the United States.
00:07:08.020 And bottom line is this. We have the biggest problem that we have in this country are the people that are attacking ICE, going after ICE, trying to prevent ICE from doing their job across this nation.
00:07:20.180 We have over 100 injunctions against ICE doing their jobs in sanctuary cities across this country.
00:07:25.840 We have we have politicians in every state across this country trying to obstruct ICE from doing their jobs.
00:07:31.940 And sadly, on our side, we spend as much time on our side fighting ourselves as we do actually fighting the enemy.
00:07:38.020 every chance this is my message to the american people every chance that you get to go out i wear
00:07:45.080 my ice hat everywhere i go i wear it in airports i wear it in in cities i was in philadelphia last
00:07:49.440 week i wear it when i go to portland i wear it when i go to san francisco everywhere i go new
00:07:53.460 york every chance you get to tell america that you love ice that you stand with ice that you want
00:08:00.260 every illegal deported yeah we may start with the really bad guys the bad hombres but every illegal
00:08:05.840 needs to be deported. And as Mark Morgan said, every business that hires illegals needs to be 0.60
00:08:12.200 prosecuted. You start doing that, you start doing worksite enforcement, we're going to see not only 0.99
00:08:17.900 the best numbers. By the way, we're seeing the best numbers we've ever seen. June was the record.
00:08:21.520 June was the highest number of ICE detentions that we've ever seen in American history. July is on
00:08:27.140 record, on pace to beat that record. But the ICE agents, the heroes of ICE, and the leaders of ICE,
00:08:34.280 Tom Homan and the rest of them need the American people to stand up as one voice and say we support
00:08:40.620 ICE we want every illegal deported because at the end of the day the politicians in Washington DC
00:08:46.380 are most of them have zero balls most of them have no spine they rely on you and they care about 0.89
00:08:53.420 polling more than they care about American citizens they need to know that they're going 0.99
00:08:57.580 to be out of office not because they're doing more ICE operations but because they're not doing
00:09:02.440 enough ICE operations. They need to know that we voted to deport every illegal, not just some of
00:09:07.960 them. And when people get shot by ICE because they try to run over ICE, they need to know
00:09:11.600 that we have ICE's back. That is the bottom line. Once again, I want to, this is very important
00:09:18.340 in this sense. Believe it or not, they took, here's what they took off. They don't want to
00:09:23.780 answer, they don't want to do any work and they don't want to answer hard questions. They're
00:09:26.520 going to do these code outs. Trust me, they're not going to spend August having town halls.
00:09:30.800 okay they're not going to spend august coming back and hearing what you had to say in your
00:09:34.720 district you know hell no hell no they don't give a damn they're going to go on these trips overseas 0.53
00:09:39.020 so i just when you meet your congressman or have a chance to see your congressman just give me the 0.67
00:09:45.720 one or two questions that you think that people ought to ask or the statements that they want to
00:09:50.040 make what are you and not being confrontational to say hey look i want to be i want to be brutally
00:09:54.560 frank if this doesn't happen you don't have my support so what should they say ben
00:09:58.820 very simple very very very simple two things if we don't have secure borders we don't have a
00:10:04.800 country if we don't have secure elections we don't have a country what are you doing to pass
00:10:08.220 the save act and i don't want to hear hyperbole about it when are you going to vote to do that
00:10:11.480 i want to see it on record and number two what are you doing to support ice i want you to support
00:10:17.020 more ice operations not less i haven't seen you and i would say this directly to them when was
00:10:21.900 the last time you did a press conference when was the last time you went on the steps of capitol 1.00
00:10:25.100 hill and said and had huge ice banners we have all these idiots and antifa and all these scumbag 1.00
00:10:29.780 judges across america attacking ice you have these idiots in the cities across america saying defund 1.00
00:10:34.540 and abolish ice where are the politicians where are the american citizens with their god bless 0.99
00:10:39.480 ice signs we need to see them on the steps of the capitol and saying you know what you're upset
00:10:44.020 about ice we're doubling down we're tripling down we've just begun the operations to secure this
00:10:49.760 country now get behind us we're going to do it and the biggest part of this ice has no control over
00:10:54.820 this what is the justice department doing to prosecute these terrorists these traitors that
00:11:00.720 are obstructing ice we should have the largest rico case in american history to prosecute the
00:11:06.260 judges the activist organizations and all of these individuals that are working together
00:11:10.820 this is a this is a rico mandami mandami should be you should send ice into new york the first
00:11:16.540 time they're confronted by any 100 city mandami hang on should be arrested immediately in the
00:11:21.980 denaturalization program you want to get tough 100 let's get tough denaturalization and getting
00:11:27.680 back to uganda where he came from okay put you want to do you don't do some theoretical i don't
00:11:32.840 want to hear these congressmen running around and saying you got to read carl marx i ain't got to
00:11:36.700 read anything i can just see what's happening in the united states today from these marxists
00:11:40.220 linens jihadists what they're doing look at their actions and let's confront them on their actions 0.55
00:11:44.820 let's denaturalize mandami it ain't that hard trust me and that lied on his application steve 0.99
00:11:50.080 that's it go ahead play offense stop being pussies use my language play offense we're sitting here 0.97
00:11:57.500 worrying about what somebody says we're worrying about what the next attack against ice is play 0.98
00:12:01.920 offense take the fight to them that's what president trump that is the the crypt that
00:12:06.480 that's the kryptonite against the left that's what president trump understands play offense
00:12:11.200 every single day take the fight to the enemy stop waiting for them to attack you and then worry about
00:12:16.240 what you're going to say take the fight to the enemy and by the way save acts the same way in
00:12:21.080 the fight there will be with john dune let's have a throw since the senate's in town they're going
00:12:24.240 to stick around let's have a throw down right now on senate leadership uh caroline levitt says
00:12:28.540 yesterday say hey president trump's running out of patience on this deal and thune's got the gall
00:12:32.520 to come back and say hey you got a phone pick the phone make some calls his job is not to get the
00:12:37.860 votes he's president of the united states he's got a couple three things on his plate his job
00:12:42.520 It's your job to get the votes.
00:12:44.420 If you can't get the votes, you're not leader, then step down and next man up.
00:12:48.420 Let's get somebody else going to do it.
00:12:49.740 Ben Berquam, tell me about your book.
00:12:51.860 Your book's coming out.
00:12:52.820 It's going to be a massive hit like Revolution was because you get down in the trenches and
00:12:58.520 talk about a journey that, quite frankly, you go from a drug degenerate to a born-again 0.74
00:13:05.240 Christian and really manifest God's work, God's spirit through your work, sir.
00:13:09.860 yeah look uh it's available already everywhere for pre-order you can do that at barnes and noble
00:13:17.520 they got the link you can do that at amazon my my ask for you guys is to go do that today
00:13:22.620 pre-order your copy today order a few extra copies for your friends and family this is my
00:13:27.080 journey 10 years from the pits of hell to standing and fighting for america i went from going to a
00:13:32.740 place where i the only options i saw were prisoner death to being given new life and a new start
00:13:37.920 and that's why you see what I do.
00:13:40.040 That's why I do what I do for my family.
00:13:42.100 I was given a new life.
00:13:43.620 Every single day is a blessing
00:13:44.740 and so I try to use that.
00:13:46.200 Every single chapter of this book,
00:13:47.740 it's unlike any other book I've ever seen.
00:13:49.560 It's my story, but every chapter has QR codes
00:13:51.800 so you can actually watch the videos I'm talking about
00:13:53.700 and every chapter has a different aspect of fear
00:13:56.580 that I've had to overcome in my life
00:13:58.060 to get to where I am today.
00:13:59.520 My prayer is that it becomes a war cry,
00:14:02.820 especially for the young generation,
00:14:04.160 to stand up and take this country back
00:14:06.420 and take the world back.
00:14:07.420 We need everyone in this fight today.
00:14:10.440 And that's really what the purpose of the book is.
00:14:12.720 It's not really about my story.
00:14:14.640 You're in there, Steve.
00:14:15.720 We've got some great patriots that are included in there.
00:14:18.000 None of that really matters.
00:14:19.080 If it doesn't inspire action, none of it matters.
00:14:22.380 And that's my request.
00:14:23.360 Order the copies, give it to your friends and family,
00:14:25.640 and we'll see you on the road.
00:14:26.600 We'll be selling it and signing copies across America very soon.
00:14:30.560 Ben, this is the way we get the intensity up.
00:14:32.580 The problem we have is an intensity gap.
00:14:35.160 they're jacked up because they see the end of trump and trumpism that's right if we get jacked
00:14:40.180 up as much as we've been in the past and we will do it folks you get you get intent you get the
00:14:45.060 intensity back we're going to win we're going to hold serve is what i say burquam real quickly
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00:17:18.380 thank you steve yeah hey one last thing for the people out there tell your representatives if you
00:17:24.500 don't support ice i will not support you i will not vote for you if you don't vocally support ice
00:17:29.660 you can find me at real am voice americasvoice.news our next episode of law and border will be next
00:17:35.000 saturday and i think it may be the most important episode we've ever done it's a montage across
00:17:39.660 america of the attacks against ice and our support for ice you got to watch that next saturday
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00:18:07.740 we'll be signing copies as we go god bless you steve you tell us you tell home you tell home
00:18:12.400 in the war and we got his back and and what you just said right there you go up to your congressman
00:18:16.760 very polite and i say let me be blunt you don't support ice and don't give me the happy talk you
00:18:21.860 support it if you don't support ice for interior enforcement and that means mass deportations
00:18:27.860 you don't have my vote very simple that'll get their attention because that's what they're
00:18:31.760 concerned about burquam thank you you continue on your way now sir on your journey so mccabe
00:18:39.440 um i think when you look at assets moving around we you know president trump's looking at a range
00:18:46.560 of alternatives we're actually going to have antonio gracefo on who did a magnificent piece
00:18:51.600 about the houthis over in jim hoff's gateway pundit we'll have him on uh momentarily but i
00:18:58.840 want to get your sense it's it feels that something's up in the range of alternatives
00:19:03.660 is is tending towards the kinetic, sir. Yeah, that's absolutely right. You know,
00:19:12.060 yesterday, of course, there were whispers here on campus that the reason why President Trump's
00:19:19.000 trip to the EPA went off early and closed early was because they wanted to rush him back to the
00:19:25.020 situation room. And then, of course, you watch how the bombing has progressed so that the targets
00:19:31.420 moved from sort of the economic infrastructure to the command and control military targets,
00:19:37.720 the naval bases, the port facilities, and like trying to isolate Bondur Abbas. 0.84
00:19:43.840 And so the American way of war, Steve, is to prepare the battlefield and we'll build up right 0.96
00:19:49.620 in front of our enemies. We'll let you watch us build up. And then when we have all our boxes
00:19:54.440 checked, then we launch. And a Pentagon official in the last few days actually confirmed to
00:20:01.940 me that there is going to be a step up in Iran in this war. And I think also you look
00:20:07.920 at the timetable. We're now on the other side of July 4th. We're on the other side of the
00:20:12.820 World Cup. Basically, we're looking at from here to Labor Day, and we still got Cuba on 0.99
00:20:19.780 the docket. So I think now there's a frustration with the president where President Trump wants to
00:20:25.140 close this out. He already told Axios that he wants to step up a massive bombing campaign.
00:20:31.180 You already have the president saying that because the Houthis are acting up with the blocking the
00:20:36.540 Red Sea, which is of course that gateway to the Suez Canal, that he's going to hold the Iranians
00:20:41.160 responsible for that. And I think everything is lining up to bring this thing to a close. 0.58
00:20:46.840 I will say, too, about the Marines, the Marines, the last two or three years actually gave up their tanks because they wanted to return to the fundamentals.
00:20:56.060 Their sort of genesis was running small wars, raiding islands, storming beaches. 0.63
00:21:02.220 And so taking those islands in the Strait of Hormuz or taking Carg Island in the north, you know, that's not the same as Vietnam.
00:21:08.680 That's just taking an island and holding it for tactical and operational purposes so that the strategic work can be done somewhere else.
00:21:17.540 And the Marines are ready to do that.
00:21:19.480 You have USS Boxer and its amphibious readiness group.
00:21:22.680 You have Tripoli and you have two big super carries.
00:21:25.700 I'm not saying it's like Terawa and Peleliu, far be it.
00:21:29.220 But here's the thing.
00:21:30.880 Once you start doing this, OK, let me just say it a different way.
00:21:33.900 where we've done these massive strategic bombing campaigns.
00:21:39.660 Last time I looked, where it worked, kind of, was in Germany and in Japan.
00:21:46.320 And even there, it took the Red Army on one flank and Patton and Montgomery on the other 0.59
00:21:51.560 to bring it to a close after we bombed them back to the Stone Age, Dresden, Berlin, all of it. 0.86
00:21:57.320 And guess what, folks? We're still there. 0.89
00:21:59.420 in japan the fire bombing of japan leading up to the nuclear bomb was like unparalleled in history
00:22:08.380 lame and these guys unparalleled in history the the concept was take the torch to the enemy
00:22:14.340 even then we were looking at a four million man invasion with one million casualties when we
00:22:21.080 dropped the hot one on us a hot one on them that we only had two in fact we had to drop the second
00:22:26.620 and they still that took it took two to make them surrender and even then there were members of the
00:22:32.080 Japanese imperial staff said tell them to bring it we saw what happened in Iwo Jima we saw what
00:22:36.100 happened at Terawa the Americans don't have the stones to withstand that okay guess what we're
00:22:41.900 still in Japan the other time we tried strategic bombing was in Vietnam and hey guess what I'm not 0.96
00:22:49.600 saying we lost but we certainly didn't beat although we defeated them a lot of the North 0.76
00:22:54.300 Vietnamese militarily. We certainly didn't win the war. We left after we turned it over to the
00:22:58.860 South Vietnamese. My point, when you do this, you have to understand if you go and do the level of 1.00
00:23:06.880 kinetic bombing and what they're talking about in this strategic campaign, and you're going to take
00:23:10.440 Karg Island, I just hope somebody's telling the president of the United States, you're going to
00:23:15.420 be there for a long time. And I say a long time, I mean like a decade. You do the type of destruction
00:23:20.420 they're talking about to get to the strategic outcome that they're talking about is now you're
00:23:26.120 in it. And now you're in it with no easy extraction. So this thing is highly complicated.
00:23:32.300 I just hope, you know, we had, I don't know, do we have Keith Kellogg? You know, Keith Kellogg,
00:23:36.760 who I like Keith Kellogg a lot, he's a good man. But I think he was on Fox just day.
00:23:40.600 They're arguing for, they're arguing for a ground invasion. You know, he and Keene want a ground
00:23:45.360 invasion of uh of iran and my point is hey if keen and kellogg ought to do it volunteer for the idf
00:23:52.860 you're both retired volunteer for the idf okay volunteer for the idf and let's take you take
00:23:57.800 lead a tank column up to beirut do i have the kind of go ahead and play it let's let's play
00:24:02.940 let's play kellogg for a second here is a concern i do have for iran though you have played sports
00:24:09.040 i've played sports we've watched sports and you let a team hang around a baseball team in the
00:24:14.480 ninth inning or a football team in the fourth quarter. We are clearly the better team. You
00:24:19.880 should have closed them out in the first quarter, not the fourth or the first inning, not the ninth
00:24:23.820 inning. And the longer they stick around, the more dangerous they become. And that's kind of
00:24:28.280 where we're at right now. And I think the president's going to close it out. He should
00:24:31.240 close it out. There's a few things he should do, I think. One is on negotiations. Let's not negotiate.
00:24:36.680 I'm not negotiating with these guys. We're going to dictate the terms of the war. And it is a war
00:24:41.360 that's going on right now.
00:24:42.960 We're going to keep taking out their leadership.
00:24:45.420 The whole policy about decapitation, we need to continue that. 1.00
00:24:49.760 If that means taking out Bahiti or Arachi or anybody else like that, 1.00
00:24:54.200 that's fine because it destabilizes the regime. 0.99
00:24:58.300 The other part, because it gives you leverage,
00:25:00.420 is I would take the islands of Karg Island and Lorac Island,
00:25:04.220 which is like, it's further to the east,
00:25:05.820 but it's like the command and control center of the Gulf.
00:25:09.560 And you take them to give the president leverage. Now I own something you don't have anymore.
00:25:15.600 We'll give it back to you at the end of this war if you need it, or we're just going to keep it forever.
00:25:20.020 The other thing I think we should be doing is, look, let's go.
00:25:22.820 And if it takes a presidential finding or something like that, let's start figuring out how we can help the Iranian people organize the resistance against the theocratic regime.
00:25:33.180 We've done it before. We did it in Afghanistan.
00:25:35.960 Our troops are really good.
00:25:37.820 Our agency is really good.
00:25:39.940 And do something like that.
00:25:41.120 You can start a province at a time and just start to take provinces at a time.
00:25:45.420 And if the Iranian people want to have freedom, then they need to rise up. 1.00
00:25:49.160 We're not going to do it for them. 0.99
00:25:50.780 And by the way, when people talk about troops on the ground.
00:25:55.120 Keith, you've got to get a better example in Afghanistan.
00:25:58.400 Come on, man.
00:25:59.340 i don't i haven't seen the guys yammering to negotiate maybe they are they keep saying hey
00:26:07.460 they're begging for a deal they're begging for that but i i see the half-hearted attempt one is
00:26:11.920 that you have destroyed the command and control structure so much we don't really know uh who's
00:26:17.500 out there anyway uh mccabe i want you to stick around because i want you to hear our next two
00:26:21.820 deaths we got antonio greff chefo from uh got a great piece up in a gateway pundit and also i've
00:26:28.260 I asked Jim Rickards to to join us here in the next block real quick, real quickly.
00:26:33.980 And thinking through these alternatives to people, is the is the word out that something's going to happen this weekend?
00:26:42.260 It's tough with the White House Correspondents Dinner tonight, Steve.
00:26:45.500 So I can't imagine you would want something big to set to break while all the reporters are in their tuxedos.
00:26:53.160 I think I think Trump would I think that'd be a pure Trumpian move.
00:26:58.260 The lack of respect he has for him.
00:26:59.820 I totally forgot.
00:27:01.600 Somehow I forgot to get my ticket for the White House Correspondents' Dinner,
00:27:05.320 which is always one of my favorites.
00:27:07.820 I can't even imagine we're doing this again.
00:27:10.640 Anyway, Neil, you stick right there at the White House.
00:27:12.440 I'm going to get these guys on. 0.97
00:27:13.380 We're going to talk about the Houthis.
00:27:14.540 We're going to talk about Jim has got some thoughts about what's going on.
00:27:19.520 But, yes, I think, I don't know, during the White House Correspondents' Dinner,
00:27:22.620 they've had a tendency to do big things on Saturday night.
00:27:25.980 might not be this weekend but as you just saw right there with keith keller there is a broadening out
00:27:31.740 of discussion about all this so uh we'll be right back we're gonna take a short commercial break
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00:30:15.200 Antonio Graceffo, an amazing piece greeted us this morning on Gateway Pundit.
00:30:21.700 The title is The Houthis' Path into Iran's War.
00:30:26.840 Can you walk our audience through your analysis of this, sir?
00:30:30.840 the houthis are one of the three primary uh proxy armies that is funded by iran that is backed by
00:30:39.520 iran uh so that would include hezbollah hamas and the houthis and the houthis then their their main
00:30:44.880 uh let's say that their main function main activity is restricting shipping by attacking
00:30:50.780 ships that that pass uh through that area they when the war first started when the conflict 0.67
00:30:57.400 first started between the United States and Iran, the Houthis, like all the other Iran allies,
00:31:02.360 made bold statements, you're going to support Iran, you can't attack our brothers, and so forth.
00:31:07.620 But very interestingly, they did not jump into the war straight away. They had one or two
00:31:12.420 engagements over the last five months, and then they were quiet, actually wrote some pieces on
00:31:16.940 that also, which was why I really thought that they were going to sit this one out.
00:31:21.520 And then suddenly, just in the last few days, they jumped back in with another attack. 0.84
00:31:27.400 And I think given the fact that Donald Trump has made it very clear that he's willing to use force and retaliation, I think it was a bad move on the Hootie's part. 0.87
00:31:37.800 And I'm not exactly certain why they did it. 0.94
00:31:41.720 But if you'll notice, all of Iran's allies kind of took to the hills since this fighting started.
00:31:46.980 Hezbollah, you know, was actually ordered not to attack Israel at one point.
00:31:52.820 You know, China hasn't jumped in.
00:31:55.600 You know, Russia hasn't jumped in.
00:31:57.000 you know overtly you know china's supporting behind the scenes and so forth but but even that 0.96
00:32:01.200 is muted um but suddenly uh the houthis have decided that um you know they want to be bombed 0.68
00:32:07.320 well isn't isn't the reason one of the reasons they know they got to spread out i mean talk
00:32:11.820 about the red sea their uh objective is much easier than the pirates on the coast of around
00:32:19.520 hormuz right are trying to close the strait of hormuz the the entrance to the red sea around uh
00:32:26.180 around, you know, Yemen and all this is much tighter, much closer to the Saudi Arabian
00:32:33.660 Peninsula and all the way up to the Suez Canal.
00:32:36.260 You can block a major, probably arguably the most major or one of the most major, particularly
00:32:42.300 for Europe, you know, waterways there.
00:32:45.500 And these people are tough.
00:32:46.920 The Egyptians under Nasser, the great Egyptian nationalist, his Vietnam was, I think they 1.00
00:32:54.960 lost 40 000 troops against the houthis the uh the the saudis have been beaten by the houthis 0.98
00:33:01.140 uae who pound for pound is the best fighting guys over there they haven't been that successful the 0.79
00:33:06.000 british weren't that successful these are tough hombres right i mean these people are kind of
00:33:10.640 dug in i could i call them like the scotch irish in appalachia they're mountain folks they're mean
00:33:15.500 as all get out uh they're very clannish uh they're really not an ally to anybody they're now for the 0.64
00:33:21.360 Iranians because they're getting weapons and funding, right, and not being driven off the 0.62
00:33:26.560 Arabian Peninsula. But one of the reasons that they're now in the fight, don't they see the
00:33:30.840 fact that we've got two carrier battle groups up there with no support from Europe, no rural
00:33:35.380 Navy support, no French Navy, no Italian Navy. We've got two carrier battle groups that President
00:33:39.900 Trump has said, hey, I'm locked in on that naval blockade. Isn't this going to take us getting
00:33:44.620 another carrier battle group over there to free this up? And they gave as good as they got last 0.97
00:33:49.880 summer, sir. Your thoughts? Yeah, no, I agree with everything you said. And the issue with
00:33:56.440 this conflict, both with the Houthis and with Iran, is that it lends itself to asymmetric
00:34:01.240 warfare. You know, it doesn't take many mines to be released or many drone attacks to make a
00:34:08.120 straight impassable. And you can launch these things from, you know, rubber boats or fishing
00:34:13.320 boats or small, you know, tiny, tiny boat, pretty much anything that floats. So this is a real
00:34:18.600 problem. If they had a Navy and they launched their formal Navy against our Navy, obviously
00:34:23.480 they would just get decimated. But the problem is that you would have to stop every single small
00:34:29.340 boat from going out in the ocean and you'd have to recover every mine that they lay, which is also
00:34:34.400 very difficult to do. So that is one reason why they've been successful, why they've been able
00:34:39.080 to survive. And as you said, they're also tough and they're entrenched. And an interesting point
00:34:44.420 you made, though, was about allies. And I totally agree with you that Iran, actually, that whole
00:34:50.240 axis, they're not really allies. It's just that some of their objectives align, particularly when
00:34:56.680 they're opposing the United States and or Israel. Then they align and they kind of work together and
00:35:02.280 support each other. But they're not true allies, which would also explain why the Houthis stayed
00:35:07.560 out of the early part of the war. But you're also right that now that we're spread out thin, a lot
00:35:12.200 of the world believes that we're spread thin and things bad things are going to start happening
00:35:16.060 all over the world because we can't respond to them hang on for one second i'm bringing records
00:35:21.620 uh and by the way the piece is great i want mo and elizabeth grace push it out i want everybody
00:35:26.680 to read this today and a head tip to jim hoffman team over gateway from putting out just cutting
00:35:31.600 edge analysis um i also want to remind people the first week this is what a tenuous grip the
00:35:38.260 American military and intelligence community have on this area of the world. The very first week of
00:35:43.020 President Trump's or the first two weeks of President Trump's first term. If you remember,
00:35:47.840 the military wanted to go in with this special forces thing with some sort of operation that
00:35:52.580 would help the combat aircraft, I think of the Saudis, get better targeting, etc. And that was
00:35:58.460 where we lost, I think, a couple of the Navy SEALs. President Trump went to Dover. It was
00:36:04.060 I think the father said some terrible things about the president.
00:36:07.820 The president did have members of the family come to that first, not State of the Union,
00:36:13.020 but that first speech they do in the first couple of weeks after the inauguration,
00:36:17.440 which is to the address to update a joint session of Congress.
00:36:20.860 That all happened then.
00:36:22.580 And hey, guess what?
00:36:23.440 Let me be blunt.
00:36:25.020 All the information given to the president of the United States was wrong, okay, dead wrong.
00:36:30.240 so don't think the american military and the intelligence community get such a strong grasp
00:36:34.480 from this that part of the world is they're kind of feeling their way through the darkness
00:36:38.960 jim rickridge you know this better than anybody records you got the houthis are uh they're very 0.98
00:36:44.800 opportunistic they're now in this fight they're looking and they and what the houthis see is they
00:36:50.860 read the times of london and they read the daily mail and they know that uh the brits got no stomach
00:36:56.320 for a fight down there and no ability.
00:36:58.260 They sent one destroyer early on.
00:37:01.000 It broke down in the Mediterranean, and it's in the yards in Crete. 0.99
00:37:04.480 The French aren't there. 0.90
00:37:05.540 The Italians are not there.
00:37:06.580 And they understand the Americans are getting more stretched out.
00:37:09.700 Your thoughts, as Keith Kellogg's telling us,
00:37:12.160 we should use Afghanistan as a shining example of a success story
00:37:16.640 to get involved again.
00:37:18.300 Yo, Keith, how can you pitch Afghanistan?
00:37:21.660 Jim Rickards. 0.99
00:37:23.280 Yes, I think you and the prior guest, Antonio Graceffo, you got the Hooties exactly right. 0.98
00:37:28.820 Are they aligned with Iran?
00:37:31.260 Yes, but they're not puppets.
00:37:32.620 They're not going to march in lockstep whenever Iran says do this or do that.
00:37:36.480 They look out for themselves.
00:37:37.600 They look out for their own interests.
00:37:38.720 There is some benefit to them from shutting down shipping in the Red Sea. 0.75
00:37:42.960 They are getting funding and weapons from Iran, but they'll only go so far.
00:37:48.200 They're not going to operate against their own interests.
00:37:50.100 They're much more concerned about Saudi Arabia and UAE, and you mentioned that.
00:37:54.080 So are the Houthis helping Iran right now?
00:37:56.700 Is this a major economic impact?
00:37:59.080 Yes, but I wouldn't go so far as to say they're marching in lockstep with Iran, number one.
00:38:04.320 As far as General Kellogg's comments, we all respect General Kellogg and his career and accomplishments.
00:38:11.260 But I don't know what he's talking about.
00:38:14.020 He said take Karg Island.
00:38:15.580 Let's stop right there.
00:38:16.780 Karg Island is an oil depot.
00:38:18.620 So the oil goes to Cargill, and that's where they fill up their large crude carriers because
00:38:24.120 it's steep enough.
00:38:25.120 You can't get those ships that close to the shore in Iran.
00:38:29.100 Who cares?
00:38:30.160 We have a naval blockade. 0.97
00:38:31.720 We can stop the oil coming out of the Persian Gulf if we want to. 0.93
00:38:34.900 So let Iran fill up all the oil tankers they want. 0.96
00:38:37.460 For that matter, I'd say fill them up because we're just going to steal them or take them 0.98
00:38:40.280 when we feel like it, or let them go if the terms are acceptable. 1.00
00:38:44.400 So as long as we have a naval blockade, which we do, and as long as Iran is 0.67
00:38:48.600 shutting down the Straits, which they are, then who cares about Karg Island? This is sort of really
00:38:53.500 retrograde thinking. And if you do take Karg Island, which we could do, it's just a big fat
00:38:57.780 target to kill Americans. So forget Karg Island. We have better tools, specifically the blockade 0.98
00:39:03.160 for dealing with that. In Afghanistan, we left in disgrace, thanks to Joe Biden. It didn't have
00:39:09.140 to be that way, but it was. Nothing was accomplished. And the Taliban are back in
00:39:13.220 charge after 20 years. So I don't think that's an example of anything.
00:39:17.080 Jim, here's my concern, is that I understand we can go up the escalatory ladder and be much more kinetic.
00:39:23.360 And some of the options being looked at are that, and you know this.
00:39:26.160 You're hearing the same talk that I am.
00:39:28.500 But my point is that when you go that kinetic, it ain't that easy to leave.
00:39:34.040 We're still in Germany.
00:39:35.220 We're still in Japan.
00:39:36.620 We're now a big trading partner with Vietnam, right?
00:39:39.400 And in Vietnam, it didn't work.
00:39:40.540 And the other two had worked, but only when you put in ground troops afterwards to make sure you could close the deal.
00:39:45.480 If you go kinetic, what they're talking about, infrastructure, electricity, water, the bridges, I got it.
00:39:52.060 You can do that.
00:39:53.060 The Navy and the Air Force have been magnificent about picking targets and getting them done. 0.96
00:39:57.460 But it's just like taking the weapons from Hezbollah in Lebanon. 0.82
00:40:02.880 That's a 10-year project.
00:40:04.440 You're there for the foreseeable future, not just this administration, whatever comes next.
00:40:10.380 And people have to understand these are not in and out.
00:40:13.020 These are just the nature of these type of wars.
00:40:15.920 It's not in and out.
00:40:16.920 Your thoughts?
00:40:18.300 That's exactly right, except there's some very important new news.
00:40:22.800 And I want to spend a minute on method.
00:40:25.440 By the way, a lot of credit to, you know, the War Room Posse has been ahead of the curve all along.
00:40:30.040 You, your other guests, you know, I try to contribute.
00:40:32.940 But my point is, we've said things since February, since the beginning of March, since the beginning of the war, that were left out on Wall Street, left out on Washington.
00:40:40.980 And time and time again, they've been proven right.
00:40:43.420 So let's keep it up.
00:40:44.760 But the posse, I think, gets this, and he's getting better information than probably the
00:40:49.240 CIA and the Pentagon.
00:40:50.580 As far as method is concerned, I think this is important, because I don't like to say
00:40:53.420 things without people understand where it's coming from.
00:40:56.540 This is what's called Bayes' technique.
00:40:58.260 Now, statistics geeks like Ben Bernanke, Janet Yellen, they're like, give me data, data,
00:41:02.660 data, and then I'll form a hypothesis.
00:41:05.140 With Bayes, you don't have enough information.
00:41:07.520 So you form the hypothesis first.
00:41:09.380 But you could be wrong.
00:41:10.500 but you test it. And then as the data comes in, it either gets stronger or weaker. If it gets
00:41:15.820 weaker, you throw it away. And that's hard. You got to say you were wrong. But if it gets stronger,
00:41:20.180 you can run with it. Now, what we've said is that negotiations are a waste of time. I don't
00:41:25.800 want to repeat all that, but we've said that many times. That's not going anywhere. And that's been
00:41:29.580 proven out. Now, we're into escalation. And I said, and you just said, yeah, it doesn't work.
00:41:35.020 we bombed Vietnam for 10 years, we didn't win. So in my last interview with you, we said, okay, 0.96
00:41:40.740 but there is an end game. There's a way to make this not a forever war. And I said, go in and
00:41:46.840 dig out the highly enriched uranium, be division strength, Army Corps of Engineers, a lot more 0.69
00:41:51.580 casualties, but you could do it. Now, here's the news. The US has deployed the B-1 bomber.
00:41:57.620 Now, it's interesting. Again, it was there before, but it's come back. Interesting in a couple of
00:42:01.720 respects. B-1 is not a stealth bomber, but it has a huge payload, 24 2,000-pound bombs or dozens of
00:42:09.140 cruise missiles. A really heavy payload can destroy a lot of targets. The fact that it's not stealth
00:42:14.360 means we're not worried about Iranian anti-aircraft capability. It doesn't exist. But this is not the
00:42:20.780 forever war. This is what's called a softening up operation. You know the war in the Pacific
00:42:26.740 before the Marines landed in Iwo Jima, Okinawa or Peleliu, the USS Iowa, New Jersey or California
00:42:33.120 would sit there and fire 16-inch guns for two or three days to soften it up. That's what we're
00:42:38.280 doing. Okay. So if you're softening up, what's the main strike? What's it going to be? And here's
00:42:43.140 the new news. The US finally, finally deployed a hypersonic missile. It's called the Dark Eagle.
00:42:48.920 Now we've deployed it in Guam. The range, it's classified, but you get different numbers,
00:42:55.260 There's 2,175 miles or 2,000, well, a little over 2,000 miles.
00:43:02.240 You can't hit Iran from Guam, but you can hit Iran from Diego Garcia,
00:43:07.500 a straight line from Diego Garcia to Tehran, 2,350 miles that this missile can go.
00:43:14.420 It can go that or further.
00:43:15.940 So you can put them in Diego Garcia and hit Iran. 0.99
00:43:20.740 Now, here's the significance of it.
00:43:22.520 But you have to understand what hypersonic missile does.
00:43:25.860 Hang on one second.
00:43:26.700 Let's go to a break.
00:43:27.400 I want to make sure you have plenty of time with this.
00:43:29.560 I've got Rickards.
00:43:30.360 I've got Antonio.
00:43:31.860 And I've got still Neil McCabe at the White House.
00:43:34.700 And Tate's girl is going to join us.
00:43:35.760 We're going to get it all done.
00:43:37.520 I promise.
00:43:38.300 Short break.
00:43:38.940 Back in the moment.
00:43:40.080 We rejoice when there's no more.
00:43:41.960 Let's take down the CCP.
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00:45:02.480 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:06.660 Jim Rickerts, your payoff.
00:45:09.220 Then I want to talk about the special for strategic intelligence.
00:45:13.400 Right.
00:45:13.700 So the hypersonic missile, the Dark Eagle, is not just another missile. 0.70
00:45:16.680 By the way, we know what they do because the Russians were ahead of the United States. 0.87
00:45:20.820 U.S. thankfully has caught up, but the Russians have the Ereshnik missile. 0.83
00:45:24.880 It lands at 10,000 miles per hour. 0.65
00:45:28.060 Now, what you do with the Ereshnik means hazelnut in Russian.
00:45:33.060 It looks like a tree when it deploys weapons.
00:45:35.160 We now have the Dark Eagle.
00:45:36.640 The Dark Eagle has a cruising speed of Mach 5, but the descent speed for the glide path
00:45:42.720 for the actual weapon, 13,000 miles per hour.
00:45:45.920 at Mach 17. But here's what they do. You can configure them different ways, but you don't
00:45:50.740 put explosives in them. You put an extremely dense metallic core. The exact composition is
00:45:56.260 classified, but just think titanium or something like that. When that core hits at 13,000 miles
00:46:02.380 an hour, it doesn't blow up. It creates the land, the terrestrial equivalent of a tidal wave. The
00:46:07.600 earth literally shivers and just kind of makes a tidal wave and destroys everything. When the
00:46:13.120 Russians used this in Ukraine. The Ukrainians went in for damage assessment. There was nothing 0.97
00:46:17.660 left. They found dust. It wasn't even like broken buildings or whatever. It turns it to dust.
00:46:21.820 So here's the point. We're not in a forever war path, fortunately. This is a softening up
00:46:27.880 operation, probably to deploy the Dark Eagle, a hypersonic missile, on the location of the
00:46:34.800 Iranian, highly enriched uranium. If you do that, we don't have to dig it up. We'll never get it.
00:46:40.280 they'll never get it it'll it's not even like buried deep underground it'll just be
00:46:44.280 it might as well be in the center of the earth it'll be impossible to get and that'll be the
00:46:48.400 end of it then we can maybe we can get out we should maybe we should have started with this
00:46:52.340 instead of taking the bait from netanyahu to do a regime change because that's what we did let's
00:46:56.060 be honest what how we get through this uh yeah 17 the strategy by the way when i got jim rickerts
00:47:02.500 talking payloads i kind of get a feeling it's going to be a kinetic weekend so jim we're going
00:47:07.060 bug you again. But until then, how do people get strategic intelligence? Thank you. We have a great
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00:47:53.820 I'll talk to you after the show.
00:47:54.760 We look forward to getting back up.
00:47:55.840 This weekend may be a big weekend.
00:47:57.440 Thank you, Jim.
00:47:58.140 Thank you for changing the schedule to come on.
00:48:00.080 Antonio, great article about the new front opened by the Houthis.
00:48:03.160 I want everybody to read it.
00:48:04.100 You've got more information.
00:48:05.060 What's your social media that people go and catch up with your thinking?
00:48:09.380 You can follow me on the Gateway Pundit and at Twitter, Antonio Vercefo, the Brooklyn Monk.
00:48:14.220 That's one of my handles online.
00:48:17.500 And you also put things up on the great Epoch Times also, correct?
00:48:21.880 Yes, sir.
00:48:22.360 I write for Epoch Times.
00:48:23.780 I do a lot of China analysis.
00:48:25.060 I spent seven years in China and 25 total in Asia plus now Ukraine.
00:48:31.760 One of the best anti-CCP guys.
00:48:33.360 It's amazing.
00:48:34.060 Antonio, looking forward.
00:48:34.920 I'll talk to you after the show.
00:48:35.760 We'll have you back on. 1.00
00:48:36.560 Great work on the Houthis. 1.00
00:48:38.380 Read it, folks. 1.00
00:48:40.200 These are bad hombres.
00:48:41.280 They're tough hombres.
00:48:43.720 McCabe, you're going to stick around.
00:48:44.880 We'll get you back up at 5.
00:48:45.940 What's your social media until then?
00:48:49.640 You can find me on all the socials at Reporter McCabe, Steve.
00:48:52.880 If you've got, I know you know Keith Kellogg very well.
00:48:56.720 If you see Keith, you see General Kellogg wandering around, make sure you grab him for an interview, okay?
00:49:01.420 We'll see you back here at 5.
00:49:03.380 I will.
00:49:04.500 I'll also say that General Cain, Tuesday at the hearing, told Senator Reid that air power has its limits.
00:49:12.220 Wow.
00:49:12.800 Coming from an Air Force general, not too shabby.
00:49:15.100 Real quickly, McCabe, are you going, you're black-tied tonight at the Correspondents' Dinner?
00:49:18.780 Are you like us?
00:49:19.480 You're a working man going to be working the war over the weekend, or are you going to the dinner?
00:49:26.740 I don't know.
00:49:27.360 I don't come from that kind of money, Steve.
00:49:28.840 I'm just going to have a quiet evening at home.
00:49:32.940 Thank you, sir.
00:49:34.600 Well, we hope it's not.
00:49:35.520 We hope it's not going to Kinetic tonight.
00:49:37.420 It's like President Trump, like he gets all the White House Correspondents there, starts lighting the place up over in Tehran.
00:49:43.900 That could happen, but there are a lot of discussions going on.
00:49:46.340 You just heard from records.
00:49:47.140 OK, Tej Gill, two things. You respect General Kellogg like we do. He's a great man. 82nd Airborne head of it. Great man. Your thoughts on Karg Island and your thoughts on General Kellogg, since I think you had a trip or two in Afghanistan, using Afghanistan as an example of a path to victory for the United States of America, sir.
00:50:07.240 yeah i'll start out with afghanistan we did we did a great job on the ground tactically but
00:50:13.860 strategically it just went on and drug out for you know almost 20 years we got to go into these
00:50:19.920 places fight win and leave we don't need to stay there and do the nation building and then the the
00:50:26.760 wars they they they take on a life of their own they cycle up cycle down cycle up cycle down and
00:50:32.540 in the meantime, you have USAID, the State Department, and every other NGO over there
00:50:37.360 trying to rebuild the country and put McDonald's and, you know, Western ideology in these
00:50:42.700 countries. They don't want it. They don't need it. And we don't need to be there. We
00:50:46.040 need to go in, do our mission, and then leave. And then if we need to go back, we can go
00:50:51.480 back later. But we don't need to have these sustained footprints in these countries in
00:50:55.680 the Middle East where they hate us forever. It just, it drains our treasure, drains our 0.97
00:50:59.800 blood and it's bad it's so and then karg island here's the deal with karg island first of all we 0.95
00:51:07.840 don't even have any navy ships in the persian gulf right now because they'll get shot with
00:51:11.460 hypersonic missiles so all of our forces are in the gulf of oman so if we go into karg island
00:51:17.240 we're gonna have to fly them in on helicopters or v-22 osprey tilt rotor aircraft or parachute 0.88
00:51:24.120 them in and that's fine if we can get those guys in without getting shot down taking the island
00:51:29.160 then that's no problem.
00:51:30.900 But then comes the problem of holding the island.
00:51:34.680 So we will be under a constant barrage of drones 1.00
00:51:38.640 and hypersonic missiles from the Iranians. 1.00
00:51:41.440 Remember that whole entire coastline of the Persian Gulf 0.99
00:51:45.140 that Iran owns has caves that have hidden doors
00:51:51.240 and they're buried deep into granite.
00:51:53.600 So the whole entire coastline has caves
00:51:57.180 where they can launch surface boats and drones and our troops will be under constant barrage. 0.82
00:52:03.480 It'll be just like the Ukrainians and the Russians shooting drones back at each other. 0.75
00:52:08.920 That's the problem. Taking it is not the problem. Holding it is the problem. 0.79
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