00:02:38.220and look at the lies and misrepresentations
00:02:39.860they've made over the last couple of years.
00:02:41.200this this whole thing this is why a guy like besan who is if you read hugo's article is very
00:02:47.620involved now in ai why scott's got enough to do figuring out how to finance you know implement
00:02:54.840president trump's economic growth plan which he did magnificently and the only hiccup we've had
00:02:59.640is the as president trump calls it the little excursion we took to persia starting what february
00:03:05.96027th or 28th and scott is the been the safe pair of hands on global capital markets now i realize
00:03:14.260the bond market's kind of on a on fire now there's particularly issues in in japan and korea and all
00:03:20.440that but that continues to come from the little excursion oil prices also the deficits that were
00:03:26.880running and in congress on capitol hill being unable to deal with to get back to pre-covid
00:03:33.780If we got back to pre-COVID spending with the revenues that we've got coming in, the problem wouldn't be solved.
00:03:41.100But, man, I think you'd be 90% to at least solve the, remember, solve the emergency so you don't have to get to the crisis.
00:03:49.360I also want to give a hat tip on so many of the great sites, Revolver and The Federalist and Breitbart and all these great sites, Daily Caller, that we have people on here and talking and Daily Signal.
00:04:03.060just we say hey there's the media diet national pulse there's a dozen to 15 of these great
00:04:10.040conservative sites now you can go to and get just gateway pundit uh citizens free press does a
00:04:16.280special you know they're kind of our drudge the the mega drudge and i gotta give a hat tip to
00:04:21.680kane because kane got into this business quite frankly as charlie kirk also got into it charlie
00:04:27.320kirk would early on was a devotee of glenn back when he had the glenn back had that five o'clock
00:04:31.720show or four o'clock show over on fox i think five o'clock and uh what did glenn beck talk about
00:04:37.520debt remember glenn beck kind of uh allowed people to understand what remember qe quantitative
00:04:45.560easing glenn beck on on his whiteboard explaining it charlie kirk really got caught up in that and
00:04:51.020thought it was amazing it's one of the reasons he got a real interest and always had an interest in
00:04:54.380debt and deficits kane this is why i tell people every day start over a citizens free press for a
00:04:59.640quick look at the headlines. Cain is always putting up great information about one of the
00:05:06.400most significant issues of our time, maybe right in back of AI and a little bit inextricably linked
00:05:11.280with it. And that is this massive debt, not just of the federal government, which is now over $40
00:05:16.720trillion, but these deficits. Now this deficit this year is going to be $2.1 trillion. The
00:05:23.640The Congressional Budget Office has forecasted that by the end of September 30th.
00:07:33.580But it does raise bigger questions about the carrier force.
00:07:37.320And hang on. Yeah. But hang on one second. And that's not to denigrate. Look, like I said, there's a lot of young families. You've got 5,000 sailors. You have tons and tons of young families. And it's very difficult. And anytime you have a extended deployment. And remember, this extended deployment was during combat operations.
00:07:55.860I just want to re-emphasize that it's not simply the Lincoln's been at sea for 250 days straight with no port calls, which is extraordinary.
00:08:04.580I think it's the longest that we've had.
00:08:07.100Most of that time was in air operations.
00:08:09.540Air operations, there's nothing more serious that the Navy does than air ops coming off a carrier and the danger of it.
00:08:16.780This is why I say, Neil, if they say that the jumper or some guy was thinking about suicide and jumped overboard,
00:08:22.540if that's uh because we used to be plane guard you know destroyers are plane guards what we do
00:08:28.160is you rotate through and back of the so you extend with your lights the runway so that the
00:08:33.600because remember the pilots have to come down and go to full acceleration right when they hit the
00:08:38.320deck in case the cable breaks or they miss their skyhook misses it uh they're at full acceleration
00:08:44.280so they can take off you know it's a touch and go they can take off so the destroyers and back on
00:08:48.200that angle and your plane guard and i can tell you in air operations you're having you know
00:08:54.220sailors or air crewmen on the decks get blown overboard i don't want to say all the time but
00:09:00.640it's not infrequent so if the lincoln went for the entire deployment and they lost one sailor
00:09:05.040overboard terrible for that sailor terrible was for his family but i think the command
00:09:09.480that is an extraordinary given the level up tempo of air operations as great as the air force was
00:09:16.580here the uh a big part of this burden in persia and their strikes came out from naval air off of
00:09:24.400those carriers and i just can't speak highly enough about what these what these men and women
00:09:28.960have accomplished on this and uh now i'm not thrilled that you're taking a a carrier away
00:09:35.380from taiwan the defense of taiwan and the western pacific where we should we normally have one on
00:09:40.880patrol all the time to take it through malacca and then across the indian ocean to the north
00:09:46.000arabian sea but given where we are that's going to happen like i said scott besson's not and he
00:09:51.040scott besson said yesterday he is going to drop some things on the persians they ain't seen before
00:09:56.440as far as economic warfare go see how tough they are uh how arrogantly they're dealing with
00:10:01.540president trump in the united states and to do that neil as you know you need a two carrier
00:10:08.560battle groups two carrier strike groups down there they're fully functioning now you've got
00:10:12.560an update also on this situation with president trump and these catapults president trump just
00:10:19.040said i'm not i'm we're getting away from the electronic catapults i don't like them i've
00:10:22.440never liked them i've read all the reviews i've read the reports i want to go back to steam
00:10:26.740catapults which is not inexpensive the way these ships are made today kind of the all electronic
00:10:32.480navy what update do you have for us neil yeah of course the steam catapults have a lot of
00:10:39.100problem themselves. You have to generate high pressure steam, which can be dangerous. And then
00:10:43.400you have rusting and you have pipes. And so the electric, the magnetic catapults was supposed to
00:10:49.200be that answer. But as we've seen with USS Gerald R. Ford, they just don't work all the time.
00:10:55.780And then the other problem is that the actual magnets that are in the catapults are made from0.75
00:11:01.200China. And so Congress has said on its own that as of 2027, at the end of 2027, the Navy is not
00:11:10.160allowed to source magnets from China. And then the president yesterday put out a national security
00:11:16.880directive where he said that the Navy has 60 days to come up with a new plan for catapults,
00:11:25.040not the magnetic. What are you going to do? You have 60 days to tell me what we're going to do
00:11:29.880next and so uss jfk the kennedy that's already got the electronic catapults uh the next carrier
00:11:38.180we'll see if that if it's too late to maybe change on those catapults but obviously that's a there's
00:11:43.700a china component to that that just adds subtext steve uh neil what is your uh where do people
00:11:52.160get you this is going to be a controversy over the weekend uh we'll get hopefully get you up
00:11:56.160tomorrow where do people get your reporting 24 7 you can find me on all the socials at reporter
00:12:04.920mccabe steve and thanks for having me on thank you brother get back to you eric metaxas
00:12:12.660once again the little engine that could revolution with no help from fox or newsmax and certainly no
00:12:20.040help from barnes and noble which still refuse try to refuse carrying the book you've made the new
00:12:25.620York Times bestseller list once again, sir. Congratulations. Well, thank you, Steve. And I'm
00:12:32.720sure a big part of that credit goes to the audience of this program. Listen, it doesn't
00:12:40.080need to be everybody. You know this and I know this. And if you read my book on the revolution,
00:12:44.740you know this. You just need a dedicated core of people who know what is right and are willing to
00:12:53.420fight for what is right and good and true. And we will never have everybody on the right side,
00:12:59.060just as in the revolution. There were tons of people perfectly happy to see which way the wind
00:13:02.760blows. It's always a civil war, even when you don't call it a civil war. I mean, they call the
00:13:08.920revolution in many ways a civil war because you had people on the inside, just like today,
00:13:14.040we have people working against the United States of America now in the United States of America,
00:13:20.280in Congress, in the Senate, in the media. So it is a war. It's an existential crisis.
00:13:28.500And you just need enough of the right guys. And I'll say this again, we need to make sure we're
00:13:34.140on God's side, that we are worthy of God's favor. Because we have, you know, when you get a report
00:13:40.800that in Massachusetts, they just signed a bill that you can murder a child a day from before
00:13:47.520she comes out of the womb. There is wickedness in this country. And so, you know, those of us
00:13:53.200who care about right and wrong, you know, we've got to do everything we can. But I am very hopeful.
00:13:59.580I'm very hopeful. I'm hopeful in large part because of you and this audience that there are
00:14:03.460people who get it, who understand what we're going through, what we have yet to go through,
00:14:09.320but who are willing to go through it. And again, you know, the reason I wrote the book is like,
00:14:12.960We need to be reminded we're not the first ones.
00:14:15.640This is the same war on a different front in a different century, but it's a war for liberty.
00:14:23.360It's a war for what is right and good and true.
00:14:25.940And we can't let the left obfuscate and pretend like, yeah, it's all a muddle.
00:14:40.060I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:14:41.080And it's quite ironic in the 250th year with Eric's amazing book, Revolution, that this law he talked about in Massachusetts, we saw the picture.
00:14:52.500There were, I don't know, 20, 25 women in back of it cheering it on.
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00:17:37.960and you brought it up this week they had this bill and whether you agreed with the bill or
00:17:45.640disagreed with the bill the bill is about i guess you can abort a baby up to the almost birth but
00:17:52.640what struck me is that in the very cradle of the revolution in massachusetts these women are like
00:18:00.740joyous about this the thing that strikes me about your book i think the power of it it's the
00:18:07.700novelistic techniques you use to tell this story which is very powerful and drives the narrative
00:18:14.200to Ford, but something that even I had forgotten, and I've studied this pretty closely, is the
00:18:21.320sacredness of which a broad raft of people from Massachusetts to South Carolina who didn't agree
00:18:28.680on much, but they agreed on one thing, that this revolution was higher than just some secular
00:18:36.700cause. There was a meaning and purpose that divine providence empowered them,
00:18:43.240and that's what drove it forward. Eric Metaxas, isn't it ironic that in the 250th year of this
00:18:48.900Remembrance of the Revolution in Massachusetts, you have this joyousness about this bill
00:18:53.840juxtaposed to the seriousness and sacredness of our revolution, sir?
00:18:58.580Well, look, we have to be clear. We have to be clear and allowed. We are at a time in history
00:19:04.900where we are being forced to rediscover the truth of God, right? We've been all, in our lifetimes,
00:19:12.000we've all been kind of gaslit into thinking, well, God is kind of an optional thing. Your
00:19:16.060religion, your faith, that's kind of a, it's kind of an add on, do whatever you want. It's got no0.98
00:19:21.100bearing on reality. Let me tell you something. There is no reality apart from the God of the
00:19:26.080Bible. We've, we've pretended like that's not true. We can have sort of secular truth. There
00:19:30.480is no secular truth. There's no universe without the God of the Bible. There's no United States
00:19:35.340of America. There's no liberty. There's no truth without the God of the Bible. So secularists are
00:19:39.940uncomfortable with that. So they keep trying to make it gray and confuse it. And every now and
00:19:44.340again, you come to a tipping point and you realize now we have to choose. Are we going to be the
00:19:50.180nation that really says there is no truth? It's all relative. Everybody can do what they want,
00:19:55.100or we can have a reckoning. What we're doing now, and you talk about it all the time on this
00:19:59.340program, we need a total reset on everything. For example, when you said Joe Biden cannot
00:20:05.360out of a state funeral. We need a reckoning. This man was a traitor. Or are we getting it wrong?
00:20:11.420Let's open the books. Let's examine what he did, what Christopher Wray did, what Comey did. Let's
00:20:16.900open the books and look at it. And let's have some honesty. Because in George Washington's day,
00:20:24.620Benedict Arnold would have been hanged. Major Andre, for collaborating with him, was hanged.
00:20:30.420You need a reckoning with the truth. You need to understand who are the traitors? Is there such a thing as traitor or are they just different points of view? We have been pretending like, you know, it's the Kumbaya, Uniparty, we'll all get along, we'll be civil. We're in a war right now.
00:20:47.540And sometimes you get pushed right to the edge and you're forced to see.
00:20:52.440Either we're going to jump off into the abyss or we're going to fight.
00:22:11.340Do we not think that God is just and that he's going to judge our nation for this kind of stuff?
00:22:15.460So, you know, we're talking about many, many things. But I think at the heart of it is the idea that God is real. His will is a genuine thing that we can understand what is his will. And I think right now we've come to that reckoning in this country where we have to say things that almost nobody's willing to say.
00:22:34.760you were willing to say it when you say Joe Biden is a traitor. His four years was illegitimate.
00:22:41.780We have to say that. President Trump, of course, in his cheeky way, says it by having the auto
00:22:47.080pen president thing there. But the point is, this is real. We're not playing political games.
00:22:52.420This is for the soul of the republic. We have to face this. And I keep saying we have to go back.
00:22:59.100I think the reason God called me to write this book on the revolution is we've got to go back.
00:23:03.100We've got to really understand what are the basics?
00:23:06.220What are we willing to die for and live for?
00:23:09.720All of this stuff, it's on the table now.
00:23:13.100And there are plenty of people, they just want to live their lives.
00:23:15.180They don't want to be bothered by all this apocalyptic stuff.
00:23:18.960Well, listen, there are people around the world right now,
00:23:22.000while we have this nice conversation in a still-free country,
00:23:24.560who wish that they had freedom, that they could actually say what they wanted.
00:23:28.440This is real for most people around the world.
00:23:30.480And I think some Americans are waking up to it. The folks that listen to this program are waking up to it. But I wrote the book hoping that we could we could get a reset. We can go back to the beginning and say, who are we? What are we fighting for? Is this real?
00:23:45.360The men of the revolution, I say this in the epilogue to the book, every one of them understood that this is a sacred thing, that this is God's idea of how we do government, that we can govern ourselves if we bow before God.
00:23:59.600So, you know, I'm thrilled the book is still on the New York Times list, but it's no thanks to, you know, Barnes & Noble and all the retailers.
00:24:06.660So I hope people will get the hardcover, even if you get the audio book, I beg you to get the hardcover on Barnes and Noble at Amazon.com or wherever, because that is the New York Times list.
00:24:17.400And it's still on the list, but, you know, it's going down.
00:24:19.580It was nine last week or eight last week.
00:24:23.820The retail, you know, imagine that this is barely available in retail stores.
00:24:28.160So it is amazing that this audience and others have kept it alive.
00:24:31.760I hope people will buy copies for for homeschoolers that I know a lot of homeschoolers are going to use this in their curriculum this fall.
00:24:38.700Thank God. A lot of classical Christian schools. So, you know, I'm you know, I'm hopeful. I'm very hopeful.
00:24:47.220Where do people go right now to buy it, the best place to buy it?
00:24:51.000Because it's been, I think, nine weeks on the bestseller list. I want to keep it going.
00:24:54.800I say I always say cultural culture and Amazon. OK, is that where to go?
00:25:01.760That would be my guess, or books a million.
00:25:05.400If you go to my website, ericmetaxas.com, you can see it.
00:25:08.160But I think Amazon's probably the best.
00:25:30.460I beg people to get a hardcover copy or several copies because the reason I want to keep this in the front of, to keep it on the New York Times list, because it's forcing them to deal with it. At some point, they're going to have to deal with this. And again, this is the truth. This is not some Christian conservative version of the truth, but the truth happens to be disturbing to the secular left.
00:25:55.100And so we've got to do our best. We have drifted for decades and decades. We wouldn't be in this mess right now if we hadn't drifted for decades. So we've got a major reset that we have to do. You know, and I know it can get ugly. It's going to get ugly. The left is not going down without a fight. They're going to try to mess with our elections. And I think President Trump is going to mess back. He's not going to let them get away with it. So, you know, we've got to stand strong. This is this is very important season.
00:26:21.860uh eric people are saying when they see you talk or preach or talk about the book and uh and do
00:26:31.320book signings or interact with them it's great where do people go to get the calendar for that
00:26:35.760because people want to plan this out so where they go it's always uh at eric metaxas.com events uh
00:26:42.180i'm going to be uh i'm actually speaking in a church in san jose california this sunday is that
00:26:47.660two days from today. It is two days from today. San Jose, California, Calvary Chapel Church.
00:26:52.640I'll be in Santa Barbara. I don't know if I have any public events in Santa Barbara. We're trying
00:26:56.260to get me to do a book signing in a bookstore there. I don't know if there's any bookstore
00:26:59.900that'll have me or get the book, but I'm going to be everywhere this fall, absolutely everywhere.
00:27:06.680And it's a joy. It is such a joy to meet people who have read the book or want to read the book
00:27:13.600or saw me on this program it is just one of the one of the joys of my life that i get to do that
00:27:17.740so i'll be doing plenty of that in the weeks and months ahead eric metaxas press on sir a fabulous
00:27:26.380book and people uh get it get it for yourself it's a beach read you won't want to put it down
00:27:32.160also two things get it for a young person in your family and if you have somebody in your family
00:32:37.560The president, of course, issued an executive order on birthright citizenship.
00:32:42.900It was one of the first things that he did when he returned to office that went through the Supreme Court.
00:32:47.920By the way, Steve, I don't know if you know this, but the case was Trump versus Barbara, and the Supreme Court never really got into the facts.
00:32:56.140But Barbara is a woman from Central America.
00:32:58.720She had three kids here illegally.1.00
00:33:01.320She had a husband here, and she was pregnant.1.00
00:33:03.460And the reason that she sued to challenge that original Trump executive order was because she wanted to make sure that she didn't have to pay the expenses for that child.0.99
00:33:14.420She wanted to make sure that that child had Medicaid, that that child had food stamps, was able to get welfare benefits.
00:33:22.000So, yeah, I mean, when you talk about that Supreme Court decision that came down at the end of June on birthright citizenship, it was really all about taking from the American taxpayer.
00:33:31.360I think that's important. But in any event, the Supreme Court in that decision, you know, hearkened back to a decision that issued in 1898 called Wong Kim Ark versus United States.0.84
00:33:44.240And in both Wong Kim Ark and in Barbara, the Supreme Court basically said every person who was born in the United States is a citizen at birth with only four exceptions.
00:33:57.120And those four exceptions are Native Americans, Indians, children of diplomats, children born to foreign enemies on occupied territory, and children who are born to foreign nationals on ships in American waters and foreign ships in American waters.
00:34:17.080And so, you know, the Trump administration took that, looked at it and said, OK, well, there's a little bit of room to maneuver here.
00:34:23.480When they talk about the children of diplomats, well, thus far and for the last 80 years, Steve, the Department of State and the Department of Justice, now the Department of Homeland Security, have interpreted that to mean only the children of fully accredited diplomats in the United States who have absolute immunity from prosecution.
00:34:47.500Trump's now saying, no, you know, something that doesn't make any sense.
00:34:50.760If you are working in the United States on behalf of a foreign government and you have
00:34:55.120a child here, you're not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
00:34:59.080Again, the critical word in the second clause of the 14th Amendment, that birthright citizenship
00:35:05.500So every person, the typist in the typing pool working at the German embassy, the second
00:35:11.440secretary in charge of economic affairs, wink, wink, at the Chinese embassy.
00:35:16.060when that person has a child in the United States, we're not going to consider that person
00:35:20.940to be a United States citizen. And that's going to put those diplomats in a very difficult
00:35:26.300situation because what they're going to have to do is, yes, I'm a loyal German, I'm a little0.51
00:35:30.660loyal Chinese national, but gosh darn it, I want my kid to be a United States citizen. So,0.59
00:35:37.020you know, I think it's going to set up some interesting legal challenges and it's definitely
00:35:40.640going to draw out some interesting people working in some questionable positions in foreign
00:35:45.660embassies. But here's really, you know, one of the most interesting parts of that order.
00:35:51.360When we talk about alien enemies who give birth in occupied territories of the United States,
00:35:57.560well, fortunately for the time being, you know, it's questionable whether there are any foreign
00:36:03.560occupied territories of the United States. But what Trump did was he said any child of any alien
00:36:10.980enemy. And by that, he means any member of a transnational criminal organization, Trende0.51
00:36:17.700Aragua, MS-13, any of the cartels, Los Zetas, you know, all of those people, Sinaloa, those
00:36:28.240people, when they have children here, those children are not citizens of the United States.
00:36:32.800Or if you're a member of Al-Qaeda, of ISIS, of Hamas or Hezbollah, any designated foreign
00:36:39.620terrorist organization, your kid's not going to be a citizen either. Now, here's the funny thing,
00:36:45.440Steve. I've seen Democratic politicians at both the state and federal level around the United
00:36:50.480States who are like, we're going to vehemently fight against this. So you're going to vehemently
00:36:55.780fight to make sure that the child of a potential Chinese spy is a citizen. You're going to fight
00:37:01.900to make sure that a Sicario from the Sinaloa cartel, you know, has a kid here and that that
00:37:09.760kid is a citizen, it's really going to set up not only a good legal battle, but an excellent
00:37:14.940political battle. You see the hand of, so these things you're saying are very serious. You see
00:37:21.540the hand of President Trump's team's got guys like Gene Hamilton, some of the smartest guys out
00:37:25.760there. You see the hands of some of his smartest advisors crafted this thing. So when the media
00:37:30.460says, oh, this is just Trump's sore loser, or when the Democrats say we're going to fight it,
00:37:34.840you think this is a very smart tee-up for the next fight in this?
00:37:39.000Sure. And I mean, I've been a lawyer for 34 years, Steve, but I recognize my limitations.
00:37:44.240When I read through these executive orders that the president has issued,
00:37:48.740I recognize the handwriting. You mentioned Gene Hamilton. This is Gene Hamilton. This is John
00:37:55.420new quality work that went into these things. And so when you hear, you know, local pundits or
00:38:01.980elected officials say, oh, you know, this is sour grapes, as you said before. No. If you remember
00:38:08.460back to those great Ali fights in the 1970s, I know you're a little too young to remember that,
00:38:13.540but I do. You know, he would play something called rope-a-dope. He would constantly, you know,
00:38:18.160he'd be on the ropes, take some blows from Frazier, you know, George Foreman. And, you know,
00:38:24.680when those people tired themselves out, that's when he'd come on. And I think what you're seeing
00:38:29.160here is, you know, we've seen the first blows delivered by the ACLU, by countless, you know,
00:38:35.240Democratic state AGs. Now that those blows have landed, now that the Supreme Court has issued its
00:38:40.640first decision, Trump is now going to go for the second decision. And don't be surprised if there's
00:38:46.220not a third decision or a fourth decision. As long as Donald Trump or any president of the United
00:38:52.300States, who is like-minded, is in the Oval Office, you're going to see, you know, slow efforts to chip
00:38:58.460away at that, you know, extremely questionable Supreme Court decision. It's probably, you know,
00:39:04.680I concur with Justices Alito and Thomas when they say it's ridiculous to premise American
00:39:10.460birthright on feudalism, which is what they did. Literally, they looked at, you know, the idea that
00:39:16.720You know, the king is the master. You are the serf. And if you have a child on the serfs or on the king's land, that serf child belongs to the king and the king owes it protection. That's literally the logic in this republic, 250 years on, that we're using to determine who should be a citizen of the United States.
00:39:36.900arthur where do people i'm gonna get you back on about this uh this birth ring they broke up but i
00:39:43.300want to spend more time on that when you come back where do people get your writings over at cis and
00:39:48.100what's your social media what are your coordinates because people need to keep up with you and you're
00:39:52.100absolutely brilliant to lay out that president trump is planning a second challenge a third
00:39:56.880challenge this is not sour grapes this is a very well thought through strategy on this and you're
00:40:02.220right you got smart guys like gene hamilton and steven miller and others advising the president
00:40:05.960And this is this is a real fight and it's going to continue.
00:40:08.880So where do people go to keep up with you?
00:40:11.620So, yeah, if you go to CIS.org, CIS.org backslash Arthur.
00:40:17.580But, you know, A-R-T-H-U-R, people get that mixed up all the time.
00:40:21.720But, you know, all of the experts that we have at CIS, starting from Mark McCory and the executive director on down, you know, we have decades of experience in this.
00:40:32.460You know, the New York Times, you know, the Washington Post, the Atlantic, all of which I've been quoted in, by the way, you know, they, you know, sort of understand, but they don't really understand.
00:40:42.660If you really want to understand what's going on, go to CIS.org.
00:40:46.300Follow us on Twitter at the Center for Immigration Studies or, you know, follow my Mark, my boss, Mark Krikorian.
00:46:00.300When you stood up and actually were coming out, I think it was six years ago now, five or six years ago, and were one of the truth tellers about the vaccine, about the pandemic, the virus, all of it.