Bannon's War Room - August 14, 2026


Episode 5590: Birthright Citizenship; Victory For Free Speech And Medical Freedom

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00:00:00 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07 Pray for our enemies.
00:00:09 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23 It's going to happen.
00:00:24 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27 MAGA Media.
00:00:29 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:47 it is a friday 14 august in the year of valor 2026 already to the middle of august um i want
00:01:00 to talk about the hugo lowell interview we did at the beginning you have had a tremendous impact
00:01:07 this audience a massive impact on the direction of this country obviously being the tip of the
00:01:14 tip of the spear of the um of president trump's movement in maga the um this issue and i say
00:01:22 behind the scenes is 70 percent of the time because it's so important but what do we teach
00:01:29 here in the war room it is the watch the process see where things are headed and how you're moving
00:01:36 it and this audience has had massive impact on this whole debate the key was back last year
00:01:43 when this audience shut down the tech broligarchs
00:01:47 in trying to jam in their preemption part of verbiage
00:01:53 into the big, beautiful bill,
00:01:54 which was defeated in the middle of the night,
00:01:57 99 to 1 in the Senate.
00:02:02 I think it voted 2 in the morning.
00:02:04 And then it was actually dropped,
00:02:06 didn't even get that far for a vote in the NDAA.
00:02:10 And, of course, the tech broligarchs have scrambled for them.
00:02:13 You are not anti-growth, and you're certainly not anti-tech.
00:02:19 What we are is anti-out-of-control technology,
00:02:24 and particularly out-of-control technology
00:02:26 allowing the decisions solely be made
00:02:29 by people who are not worthy to make those decisions.
00:02:32 And the tech oligarchs, the bro-ligarchs, are simply not.
00:02:36 They are not.
00:02:37 You can just look at them,
00:02:38 and look at the lies and misrepresentations
00:02:39 they've made over the last couple of years.
00:02:41 this this whole thing this is why a guy like besan who is if you read hugo's article is very
00:02:47 involved now in ai why scott's got enough to do figuring out how to finance you know implement
00:02:54 president trump's economic growth plan which he did magnificently and the only hiccup we've had
00:02:59 is the as president trump calls it the little excursion we took to persia starting what february
00:03:05 27th or 28th and scott is the been the safe pair of hands on global capital markets now i realize
00:03:14 the bond market's kind of on a on fire now there's particularly issues in in japan and korea and all
00:03:20 that but that continues to come from the little excursion oil prices also the deficits that were
00:03:26 running and in congress on capitol hill being unable to deal with to get back to pre-covid
00:03:33 If we got back to pre-COVID spending with the revenues that we've got coming in, the problem wouldn't be solved.
00:03:41 But, man, I think you'd be 90% to at least solve the, remember, solve the emergency so you don't have to get to the crisis.
00:03:49 I also want to give a hat tip on so many of the great sites, Revolver and The Federalist and Breitbart and all these great sites, Daily Caller, that we have people on here and talking and Daily Signal.
00:04:03 just we say hey there's the media diet national pulse there's a dozen to 15 of these great
00:04:10 conservative sites now you can go to and get just gateway pundit uh citizens free press does a
00:04:16 special you know they're kind of our drudge the the mega drudge and i gotta give a hat tip to
00:04:21 kane because kane got into this business quite frankly as charlie kirk also got into it charlie
00:04:27 kirk would early on was a devotee of glenn back when he had the glenn back had that five o'clock
00:04:31 show or four o'clock show over on fox i think five o'clock and uh what did glenn beck talk about
00:04:37 debt remember glenn beck kind of uh allowed people to understand what remember qe quantitative
00:04:45 easing glenn beck on on his whiteboard explaining it charlie kirk really got caught up in that and
00:04:51 thought it was amazing it's one of the reasons he got a real interest and always had an interest in
00:04:54 debt and deficits kane this is why i tell people every day start over a citizens free press for a
00:04:59 quick look at the headlines. Cain is always putting up great information about one of the
00:05:06 most significant issues of our time, maybe right in back of AI and a little bit inextricably linked
00:05:11 with it. And that is this massive debt, not just of the federal government, which is now over $40
00:05:16 trillion, but these deficits. Now this deficit this year is going to be $2.1 trillion. The
00:05:23 The Congressional Budget Office has forecasted that by the end of September 30th.
00:05:28 We called that shot last year.
00:05:30 I don't know.
00:05:31 On October 1st, we said the deficit is going to go forward.
00:05:34 It's going to be $2 trillion.
00:05:36 Why?
00:05:36 We're still dealing with Biden and Nancy Pelosi's spending levels.
00:05:40 Because the House and the Senate can't get it together to actually pass an appropriations bill and get your arms around it.
00:05:45 Now, Ron Johnson, other people involved now, maybe something changed.
00:05:48 but the senate just passed a cr that kicks it into the house hasn't done it but the senate's
00:05:53 passed a cr that kicks the can through the 30th september of which you could use as a leverage
00:06:02 point you could actually shut down the government i'm a strong believer in that that that actually
00:06:07 galvanizes and gets people focused and fired up and yes let's go to the polls where they want to
00:06:13 kick that down to before christmas and guess what they're going to do is an omnibus oh one year
00:06:17 cr let's just do a one-year cr uh and you just continue to have the spending and that's what
00:06:23 scott's you know primary responsibility is that but he's also gotten involved now in ai and he's
00:06:27 very involved in taking a lead role it looks like according to the daily telegraph and other
00:06:32 news sources uh in the economic war with um against the persians i want to go back to the
00:06:40 white house neil mccabe i just want to get everybody up to date and there are some developments
00:06:42 particularly in president trump talking about the the carriers and the catapults and all that
00:06:46 But so the bid and the ask, do we have an understanding of when the Lincoln's going to be relieved?
00:06:53 It's going to be a week, two weeks, a month. They've already been at sea for 250 days.
00:06:56 They missed all their port calls, essentially. When would they be heading home?
00:07:04 Yes, Steve, they'll be making the big turn for home in about two weeks as USS George Washington comes online.
00:07:11 And so then the next challenge public affairs-wise or media relations-wise is when the crew hits the pier and then they start talking.
00:07:22 But obviously the vast majority is not complaining.
00:07:26 The vast majority is too busy doing their job to think about anything else.
00:07:31 And so we'll see how it shakes out.
00:07:33 But it does raise bigger questions about the carrier force.
00:07:37 And hang on. Yeah. But hang on one second. And that's not to denigrate. Look, like I said, there's a lot of young families. You've got 5,000 sailors. You have tons and tons of young families. And it's very difficult. And anytime you have a extended deployment. And remember, this extended deployment was during combat operations.
00:07:55 I just want to re-emphasize that it's not simply the Lincoln's been at sea for 250 days straight with no port calls, which is extraordinary.
00:08:04 I think it's the longest that we've had.
00:08:07 Most of that time was in air operations.
00:08:09 Air operations, there's nothing more serious that the Navy does than air ops coming off a carrier and the danger of it.
00:08:16 This is why I say, Neil, if they say that the jumper or some guy was thinking about suicide and jumped overboard,
00:08:22 if that's uh because we used to be plane guard you know destroyers are plane guards what we do
00:08:28 is you rotate through and back of the so you extend with your lights the runway so that the
00:08:33 because remember the pilots have to come down and go to full acceleration right when they hit the
00:08:38 deck in case the cable breaks or they miss their skyhook misses it uh they're at full acceleration
00:08:44 so they can take off you know it's a touch and go they can take off so the destroyers and back on
00:08:48 that angle and your plane guard and i can tell you in air operations you're having you know
00:08:54 sailors or air crewmen on the decks get blown overboard i don't want to say all the time but
00:09:00 it's not infrequent so if the lincoln went for the entire deployment and they lost one sailor
00:09:05 overboard terrible for that sailor terrible was for his family but i think the command
00:09:09 that is an extraordinary given the level up tempo of air operations as great as the air force was
00:09:16 here the uh a big part of this burden in persia and their strikes came out from naval air off of
00:09:24 those carriers and i just can't speak highly enough about what these what these men and women
00:09:28 have accomplished on this and uh now i'm not thrilled that you're taking a a carrier away
00:09:35 from taiwan the defense of taiwan and the western pacific where we should we normally have one on
00:09:40 patrol all the time to take it through malacca and then across the indian ocean to the north
00:09:46 arabian sea but given where we are that's going to happen like i said scott besson's not and he
00:09:51 scott besson said yesterday he is going to drop some things on the persians they ain't seen before
00:09:56 as far as economic warfare go see how tough they are uh how arrogantly they're dealing with
00:10:01 president trump in the united states and to do that neil as you know you need a two carrier
00:10:08 battle groups two carrier strike groups down there they're fully functioning now you've got
00:10:12 an update also on this situation with president trump and these catapults president trump just
00:10:19 said i'm not i'm we're getting away from the electronic catapults i don't like them i've
00:10:22 never liked them i've read all the reviews i've read the reports i want to go back to steam
00:10:26 catapults which is not inexpensive the way these ships are made today kind of the all electronic
00:10:32 navy what update do you have for us neil yeah of course the steam catapults have a lot of
00:10:39 problem themselves. You have to generate high pressure steam, which can be dangerous. And then
00:10:43 you have rusting and you have pipes. And so the electric, the magnetic catapults was supposed to
00:10:49 be that answer. But as we've seen with USS Gerald R. Ford, they just don't work all the time.
00:10:55 And then the other problem is that the actual magnets that are in the catapults are made from 0.75
00:11:01 China. And so Congress has said on its own that as of 2027, at the end of 2027, the Navy is not
00:11:10 allowed to source magnets from China. And then the president yesterday put out a national security
00:11:16 directive where he said that the Navy has 60 days to come up with a new plan for catapults,
00:11:25 not the magnetic. What are you going to do? You have 60 days to tell me what we're going to do
00:11:29 next and so uss jfk the kennedy that's already got the electronic catapults uh the next carrier
00:11:38 we'll see if that if it's too late to maybe change on those catapults but obviously that's a there's
00:11:43 a china component to that that just adds subtext steve uh neil what is your uh where do people
00:11:52 get you this is going to be a controversy over the weekend uh we'll get hopefully get you up
00:11:56 tomorrow where do people get your reporting 24 7 you can find me on all the socials at reporter
00:12:04 mccabe steve and thanks for having me on thank you brother get back to you eric metaxas
00:12:12 once again the little engine that could revolution with no help from fox or newsmax and certainly no
00:12:20 help from barnes and noble which still refuse try to refuse carrying the book you've made the new
00:12:25 York Times bestseller list once again, sir. Congratulations. Well, thank you, Steve. And I'm
00:12:32 sure a big part of that credit goes to the audience of this program. Listen, it doesn't
00:12:40 need to be everybody. You know this and I know this. And if you read my book on the revolution,
00:12:44 you know this. You just need a dedicated core of people who know what is right and are willing to
00:12:53 fight for what is right and good and true. And we will never have everybody on the right side,
00:12:59 just as in the revolution. There were tons of people perfectly happy to see which way the wind
00:13:02 blows. It's always a civil war, even when you don't call it a civil war. I mean, they call the
00:13:08 revolution in many ways a civil war because you had people on the inside, just like today,
00:13:14 we have people working against the United States of America now in the United States of America,
00:13:20 in Congress, in the Senate, in the media. So it is a war. It's an existential crisis.
00:13:28 And you just need enough of the right guys. And I'll say this again, we need to make sure we're
00:13:34 on God's side, that we are worthy of God's favor. Because we have, you know, when you get a report
00:13:40 that in Massachusetts, they just signed a bill that you can murder a child a day from before
00:13:47 she comes out of the womb. There is wickedness in this country. And so, you know, those of us
00:13:53 who care about right and wrong, you know, we've got to do everything we can. But I am very hopeful.
00:13:59 I'm very hopeful. I'm hopeful in large part because of you and this audience that there are
00:14:03 people who get it, who understand what we're going through, what we have yet to go through,
00:14:09 but who are willing to go through it. And again, you know, the reason I wrote the book is like,
00:14:12 We need to be reminded we're not the first ones.
00:14:15 This is the same war on a different front in a different century, but it's a war for liberty.
00:14:23 It's a war for what is right and good and true.
00:14:25 And we can't let the left obfuscate and pretend like, yeah, it's all a muddle.
00:14:31 Who's to say what's right or wrong?
00:14:33 There is right and there is wrong, and we need to do our best to know what it is.
00:14:39 Hang on for a second.
00:14:40 I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:14:41 And it's quite ironic in the 250th year with Eric's amazing book, Revolution, that this law he talked about in Massachusetts, we saw the picture.
00:14:52 There were, I don't know, 20, 25 women in back of it cheering it on.
00:14:57 Very disturbing.
00:14:58 Short break.
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00:17:37 and you brought it up this week they had this bill and whether you agreed with the bill or
00:17:45 disagreed with the bill the bill is about i guess you can abort a baby up to the almost birth but
00:17:52 what struck me is that in the very cradle of the revolution in massachusetts these women are like
00:18:00 joyous about this the thing that strikes me about your book i think the power of it it's the
00:18:07 novelistic techniques you use to tell this story which is very powerful and drives the narrative
00:18:14 to Ford, but something that even I had forgotten, and I've studied this pretty closely, is the
00:18:21 sacredness of which a broad raft of people from Massachusetts to South Carolina who didn't agree
00:18:28 on much, but they agreed on one thing, that this revolution was higher than just some secular
00:18:36 cause. There was a meaning and purpose that divine providence empowered them,
00:18:43 and that's what drove it forward. Eric Metaxas, isn't it ironic that in the 250th year of this
00:18:48 Remembrance of the Revolution in Massachusetts, you have this joyousness about this bill
00:18:53 juxtaposed to the seriousness and sacredness of our revolution, sir?
00:18:58 Well, look, we have to be clear. We have to be clear and allowed. We are at a time in history
00:19:04 where we are being forced to rediscover the truth of God, right? We've been all, in our lifetimes,
00:19:12 we've all been kind of gaslit into thinking, well, God is kind of an optional thing. Your
00:19:16 religion, your faith, that's kind of a, it's kind of an add on, do whatever you want. It's got no 0.98
00:19:21 bearing on reality. Let me tell you something. There is no reality apart from the God of the
00:19:26 Bible. We've, we've pretended like that's not true. We can have sort of secular truth. There
00:19:30 is no secular truth. There's no universe without the God of the Bible. There's no United States
00:19:35 of America. There's no liberty. There's no truth without the God of the Bible. So secularists are
00:19:39 uncomfortable with that. So they keep trying to make it gray and confuse it. And every now and
00:19:44 again, you come to a tipping point and you realize now we have to choose. Are we going to be the
00:19:50 nation that really says there is no truth? It's all relative. Everybody can do what they want,
00:19:55 or we can have a reckoning. What we're doing now, and you talk about it all the time on this
00:19:59 program, we need a total reset on everything. For example, when you said Joe Biden cannot
00:20:05 out of a state funeral. We need a reckoning. This man was a traitor. Or are we getting it wrong?
00:20:11 Let's open the books. Let's examine what he did, what Christopher Wray did, what Comey did. Let's
00:20:16 open the books and look at it. And let's have some honesty. Because in George Washington's day,
00:20:24 Benedict Arnold would have been hanged. Major Andre, for collaborating with him, was hanged.
00:20:30 You need a reckoning with the truth. You need to understand who are the traitors? Is there such a thing as traitor or are they just different points of view? We have been pretending like, you know, it's the Kumbaya, Uniparty, we'll all get along, we'll be civil. We're in a war right now.
00:20:47 And sometimes you get pushed right to the edge and you're forced to see.
00:20:52 Either we're going to jump off into the abyss or we're going to fight.
00:20:56 And that's where we are now.
00:20:57 And so to me, the American Revolution, it's the template.
00:21:00 It gives us the picture.
00:21:02 There were people who were involved in a sacred cause, not in a wonderful political cause,
00:21:07 a cause that they felt was ordained by God.
00:21:10 We're going to stand up like men for our rights, which are gifts to us from God.
00:21:15 And we will obey God rather than men.
00:21:19 And if the men in parliament tell us to do something, at some point we have to stand
00:21:24 against them or we are not men, we are slaves.
00:21:27 I mean, that's the kind of binary reality, the spiritual reality that the secular left
00:21:34 for decades has been pushing against.
00:21:36 And it's gaslit most of us, most of the country, including you and me and our friends into
00:21:41 buying a little bit of it.
00:21:43 It's not real.
00:21:44 It's not true.
00:21:45 I mean, there are people that suffered in the Gulag archipelago in the Soviet Union.
00:21:49 They would tell you there is evil in the world.
00:21:52 If you don't fight evil, eventually you're helping evil.
00:21:55 I wrote about it in my book on Bonhoeffer, the Nazis.
00:21:58 We're dealing with that right now.
00:21:59 I mean, we have abortionists performing murder in the seventh and eighth month. 0.99
00:22:06 Viable children are being murdered for money, and they're getting away with it.
00:22:10 We say that it's legal.
00:22:11 Do we not think that God is just and that he's going to judge our nation for this kind of stuff?
00:22:15 So, you know, we're talking about many, many things. But I think at the heart of it is the idea that God is real. His will is a genuine thing that we can understand what is his will. And I think right now we've come to that reckoning in this country where we have to say things that almost nobody's willing to say.
00:22:34 you were willing to say it when you say Joe Biden is a traitor. His four years was illegitimate.
00:22:41 We have to say that. President Trump, of course, in his cheeky way, says it by having the auto
00:22:47 pen president thing there. But the point is, this is real. We're not playing political games.
00:22:52 This is for the soul of the republic. We have to face this. And I keep saying we have to go back.
00:22:59 I think the reason God called me to write this book on the revolution is we've got to go back.
00:23:03 We've got to really understand what are the basics?
00:23:06 What are we willing to die for and live for?
00:23:09 All of this stuff, it's on the table now.
00:23:13 And there are plenty of people, they just want to live their lives.
00:23:15 They don't want to be bothered by all this apocalyptic stuff.
00:23:17 It sounds crazy.
00:23:18 Well, listen, there are people around the world right now,
00:23:22 while we have this nice conversation in a still-free country,
00:23:24 who wish that they had freedom, that they could actually say what they wanted.
00:23:28 This is real for most people around the world.
00:23:30 And I think some Americans are waking up to it. The folks that listen to this program are waking up to it. But I wrote the book hoping that we could we could get a reset. We can go back to the beginning and say, who are we? What are we fighting for? Is this real?
00:23:45 The men of the revolution, I say this in the epilogue to the book, every one of them understood that this is a sacred thing, that this is God's idea of how we do government, that we can govern ourselves if we bow before God.
00:23:59 So, you know, I'm thrilled the book is still on the New York Times list, but it's no thanks to, you know, Barnes & Noble and all the retailers.
00:24:06 So I hope people will get the hardcover, even if you get the audio book, I beg you to get the hardcover on Barnes and Noble at Amazon.com or wherever, because that is the New York Times list.
00:24:17 And it's still on the list, but, you know, it's going down.
00:24:19 It was nine last week or eight last week.
00:24:22 This week was 11.
00:24:23 The retail, you know, imagine that this is barely available in retail stores.
00:24:28 So it is amazing that this audience and others have kept it alive.
00:24:31 I hope people will buy copies for for homeschoolers that I know a lot of homeschoolers are going to use this in their curriculum this fall.
00:24:38 Thank God. A lot of classical Christian schools. So, you know, I'm you know, I'm hopeful. I'm very hopeful.
00:24:47 Where do people go right now to buy it, the best place to buy it?
00:24:51 Because it's been, I think, nine weeks on the bestseller list. I want to keep it going.
00:24:54 I say I always say cultural culture and Amazon. OK, is that where to go?
00:25:01 That would be my guess, or books a million.
00:25:05 If you go to my website, ericmetaxas.com, you can see it.
00:25:08 But I think Amazon's probably the best.
00:25:09 You can find it in some bookstores.
00:25:11 They're just hiding it in the back in these big bookstores.
00:25:13 Some of them, I'm sure there are some that have it out front.
00:25:16 But anecdotally, as I talk to people, it's like, nah, they're just not doing it.
00:25:20 They got Jill Biden's book.
00:25:21 They got Mike Pence's book.
00:25:23 They got all the books.
00:25:24 They got the Maggie Haberman book.
00:25:26 They got all those books way out front.
00:25:28 My book, good luck finding it.
00:25:30 I beg people to get a hardcover copy or several copies because the reason I want to keep this in the front of, to keep it on the New York Times list, because it's forcing them to deal with it. At some point, they're going to have to deal with this. And again, this is the truth. This is not some Christian conservative version of the truth, but the truth happens to be disturbing to the secular left.
00:25:55 And so we've got to do our best. We have drifted for decades and decades. We wouldn't be in this mess right now if we hadn't drifted for decades. So we've got a major reset that we have to do. You know, and I know it can get ugly. It's going to get ugly. The left is not going down without a fight. They're going to try to mess with our elections. And I think President Trump is going to mess back. He's not going to let them get away with it. So, you know, we've got to stand strong. This is this is very important season.
00:26:21 uh eric people are saying when they see you talk or preach or talk about the book and uh and do
00:26:31 book signings or interact with them it's great where do people go to get the calendar for that
00:26:35 because people want to plan this out so where they go it's always uh at eric metaxas.com events uh
00:26:42 i'm going to be uh i'm actually speaking in a church in san jose california this sunday is that
00:26:47 two days from today. It is two days from today. San Jose, California, Calvary Chapel Church.
00:26:52 I'll be in Santa Barbara. I don't know if I have any public events in Santa Barbara. We're trying
00:26:56 to get me to do a book signing in a bookstore there. I don't know if there's any bookstore
00:26:59 that'll have me or get the book, but I'm going to be everywhere this fall, absolutely everywhere.
00:27:06 And it's a joy. It is such a joy to meet people who have read the book or want to read the book
00:27:13 or saw me on this program it is just one of the one of the joys of my life that i get to do that
00:27:17 so i'll be doing plenty of that in the weeks and months ahead eric metaxas press on sir a fabulous
00:27:26 book and people uh get it get it for yourself it's a beach read you won't want to put it down
00:27:32 also two things get it for a young person in your family and if you have somebody in your family
00:27:39 that's absolutely anti-MAGA,
00:27:41 absolutely anti-our movement,
00:27:44 get it for them and say,
00:27:45 hey, can you just read this
00:27:46 and you're going to love it?
00:27:47 It's about the revolution.
00:27:48 Tell me what you think.
00:27:49 You may have a metanoia.
00:27:52 You may have a change of being on your hands.
00:27:56 That's why I wrote this book.
00:27:59 I said, I want people,
00:28:01 don't tell them that, you know,
00:28:02 the author loves President Trump.
00:28:05 Just say this is a New York Times bestselling book
00:28:07 and see what they think.
00:28:10 Exactly.
00:28:11 Maybe we get a metanoia. 1.00
00:28:14 You're Greek. 1.00
00:28:15 A change of being. 0.90
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00:31:42 talk about this situation with data that's coming out it's created kind of a firestorm
00:31:46 uh andrew two things number one i want to talk because a lot of the media just said hey it's
00:31:52 it's typical trump's sour grapes he's he's a sore loser and so the supreme court just kind of blew
00:31:59 him out of birthright citizenship and the states are running around you know we're involved very 0.92
00:32:03 involved in texas other places to make sure the states don't issue birth certificates but trump's 0.77
00:32:08 just a sore loser so he he signed these executive orders kind of like so's your old man right to the
00:32:14 supreme court but as i read them i said man these things are pretty serious and then you arthur 0.87
00:32:21 Andrew Arthur explained it all to us in a great report over at CIS.
00:32:26 I want everybody to understand.
00:32:28 So this was a lot more than sour grapes.
00:32:31 You agree, sir?
00:32:33 Oh, yeah, absolutely, Steve.
00:32:35 And thank you for having me today.
00:32:37 The president, of course, issued an executive order on birthright citizenship.
00:32:42 It was one of the first things that he did when he returned to office that went through the Supreme Court.
00:32:47 By the way, Steve, I don't know if you know this, but the case was Trump versus Barbara, and the Supreme Court never really got into the facts.
00:32:56 But Barbara is a woman from Central America.
00:32:58 She had three kids here illegally. 1.00
00:33:01 She had a husband here, and she was pregnant. 1.00
00:33:03 And the reason that she sued to challenge that original Trump executive order was because she wanted to make sure that she didn't have to pay the expenses for that child. 0.99
00:33:14 She wanted to make sure that that child had Medicaid, that that child had food stamps, was able to get welfare benefits.
00:33:22 So, yeah, I mean, when you talk about that Supreme Court decision that came down at the end of June on birthright citizenship, it was really all about taking from the American taxpayer.
00:33:31 I think that's important. But in any event, the Supreme Court in that decision, you know, hearkened back to a decision that issued in 1898 called Wong Kim Ark versus United States. 0.84
00:33:44 And in both Wong Kim Ark and in Barbara, the Supreme Court basically said every person who was born in the United States is a citizen at birth with only four exceptions.
00:33:57 And those four exceptions are Native Americans, Indians, children of diplomats, children born to foreign enemies on occupied territory, and children who are born to foreign nationals on ships in American waters and foreign ships in American waters.
00:34:17 And so, you know, the Trump administration took that, looked at it and said, OK, well, there's a little bit of room to maneuver here.
00:34:23 When they talk about the children of diplomats, well, thus far and for the last 80 years, Steve, the Department of State and the Department of Justice, now the Department of Homeland Security, have interpreted that to mean only the children of fully accredited diplomats in the United States who have absolute immunity from prosecution.
00:34:47 Trump's now saying, no, you know, something that doesn't make any sense.
00:34:50 If you are working in the United States on behalf of a foreign government and you have
00:34:55 a child here, you're not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
00:34:59 Again, the critical word in the second clause of the 14th Amendment, that birthright citizenship
00:35:04 clause.
00:35:05 So every person, the typist in the typing pool working at the German embassy, the second
00:35:11 secretary in charge of economic affairs, wink, wink, at the Chinese embassy.
00:35:16 when that person has a child in the United States, we're not going to consider that person
00:35:20 to be a United States citizen. And that's going to put those diplomats in a very difficult
00:35:26 situation because what they're going to have to do is, yes, I'm a loyal German, I'm a little 0.51
00:35:30 loyal Chinese national, but gosh darn it, I want my kid to be a United States citizen. So, 0.59
00:35:37 you know, I think it's going to set up some interesting legal challenges and it's definitely
00:35:40 going to draw out some interesting people working in some questionable positions in foreign
00:35:45 embassies. But here's really, you know, one of the most interesting parts of that order.
00:35:51 When we talk about alien enemies who give birth in occupied territories of the United States,
00:35:57 well, fortunately for the time being, you know, it's questionable whether there are any foreign
00:36:03 occupied territories of the United States. But what Trump did was he said any child of any alien
00:36:10 enemy. And by that, he means any member of a transnational criminal organization, Trende 0.51
00:36:17 Aragua, MS-13, any of the cartels, Los Zetas, you know, all of those people, Sinaloa, those
00:36:28 people, when they have children here, those children are not citizens of the United States.
00:36:32 Or if you're a member of Al-Qaeda, of ISIS, of Hamas or Hezbollah, any designated foreign
00:36:39 terrorist organization, your kid's not going to be a citizen either. Now, here's the funny thing,
00:36:45 Steve. I've seen Democratic politicians at both the state and federal level around the United
00:36:50 States who are like, we're going to vehemently fight against this. So you're going to vehemently
00:36:55 fight to make sure that the child of a potential Chinese spy is a citizen. You're going to fight
00:37:01 to make sure that a Sicario from the Sinaloa cartel, you know, has a kid here and that that
00:37:09 kid is a citizen, it's really going to set up not only a good legal battle, but an excellent
00:37:14 political battle. You see the hand of, so these things you're saying are very serious. You see
00:37:21 the hand of President Trump's team's got guys like Gene Hamilton, some of the smartest guys out
00:37:25 there. You see the hands of some of his smartest advisors crafted this thing. So when the media
00:37:30 says, oh, this is just Trump's sore loser, or when the Democrats say we're going to fight it,
00:37:34 you think this is a very smart tee-up for the next fight in this?
00:37:39 Sure. And I mean, I've been a lawyer for 34 years, Steve, but I recognize my limitations.
00:37:44 When I read through these executive orders that the president has issued,
00:37:48 I recognize the handwriting. You mentioned Gene Hamilton. This is Gene Hamilton. This is John
00:37:55 new quality work that went into these things. And so when you hear, you know, local pundits or
00:38:01 elected officials say, oh, you know, this is sour grapes, as you said before. No. If you remember
00:38:08 back to those great Ali fights in the 1970s, I know you're a little too young to remember that,
00:38:13 but I do. You know, he would play something called rope-a-dope. He would constantly, you know,
00:38:18 he'd be on the ropes, take some blows from Frazier, you know, George Foreman. And, you know,
00:38:24 when those people tired themselves out, that's when he'd come on. And I think what you're seeing
00:38:29 here is, you know, we've seen the first blows delivered by the ACLU, by countless, you know,
00:38:35 Democratic state AGs. Now that those blows have landed, now that the Supreme Court has issued its
00:38:40 first decision, Trump is now going to go for the second decision. And don't be surprised if there's
00:38:46 not a third decision or a fourth decision. As long as Donald Trump or any president of the United
00:38:52 States, who is like-minded, is in the Oval Office, you're going to see, you know, slow efforts to chip
00:38:58 away at that, you know, extremely questionable Supreme Court decision. It's probably, you know,
00:39:04 I concur with Justices Alito and Thomas when they say it's ridiculous to premise American
00:39:10 birthright on feudalism, which is what they did. Literally, they looked at, you know, the idea that
00:39:16 You know, the king is the master. You are the serf. And if you have a child on the serfs or on the king's land, that serf child belongs to the king and the king owes it protection. That's literally the logic in this republic, 250 years on, that we're using to determine who should be a citizen of the United States.
00:39:36 arthur where do people i'm gonna get you back on about this uh this birth ring they broke up but i
00:39:43 want to spend more time on that when you come back where do people get your writings over at cis and
00:39:48 what's your social media what are your coordinates because people need to keep up with you and you're
00:39:52 absolutely brilliant to lay out that president trump is planning a second challenge a third
00:39:56 challenge this is not sour grapes this is a very well thought through strategy on this and you're
00:40:02 right you got smart guys like gene hamilton and steven miller and others advising the president
00:40:05 And this is this is a real fight and it's going to continue.
00:40:08 So where do people go to keep up with you?
00:40:11 So, yeah, if you go to CIS.org, CIS.org backslash Arthur.
00:40:17 But, you know, A-R-T-H-U-R, people get that mixed up all the time.
00:40:21 But, you know, all of the experts that we have at CIS, starting from Mark McCory and the executive director on down, you know, we have decades of experience in this.
00:40:30 But it's a constant battle, Steve.
00:40:32 You know, the New York Times, you know, the Washington Post, the Atlantic, all of which I've been quoted in, by the way, you know, they, you know, sort of understand, but they don't really understand.
00:40:42 If you really want to understand what's going on, go to CIS.org.
00:40:46 Follow us on Twitter at the Center for Immigration Studies or, you know, follow my Mark, my boss, Mark Krikorian.
00:40:52 He tweets out all of our stuff.
00:40:54 The center tweets out all of its stuff.
00:40:56 That's really the best place to.
00:40:58 and you know we only we don't only talk about our own stuff when we see something good we push that
00:41:03 out as well because you know knowledge is power in this area as much as any other one
00:41:09 um and kakorian comes in a little hot a little spicy every now and again so people should
00:41:16 definitely go that if uh cameron and the team in denver also can put that up uh yes and in fact
00:41:22 the atlantic and the new york times and the washington posts are they respect they know
00:41:27 exactly what's going on. They're only using it and twisting it as propaganda for their own
00:41:31 partisan ends because they're open border globalists. That's why the CIS is the gold
00:41:36 standard. You guys are the gold standard for laying out no brag, just fact. So when you do
00:41:41 these pieces, that's what we love getting them up. Andrew, thank you so much for joining us here
00:41:46 this morning. I appreciate you. Steve, thanks so much for having me. I look forward to the next time.
00:41:52 Thank you, sir. Got a great one next time. They broke a Chinese national one of these
00:41:56 birther rings dr peter corey doc we only got two minutes before the break but i'm holding
00:42:03 i'm holding to the next segment i just want to give you a hat tip from the war and posse
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00:45:44 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:45:49 Okay, Dr. Pierre Corey joins us.
00:45:51 Dr. Corey, there's a big court case in California I want to get to,
00:45:54 but it's about having doctors actually tell their patients the truth.
00:45:59 Let's go back in time.
00:46:00 When you stood up and actually were coming out, I think it was six years ago now, five or six years ago, and were one of the truth tellers about the vaccine, about the pandemic, the virus, all of it.
00:46:12 I mean, you were criticized.
00:46:13 Walker said the miscarriages.
00:46:15 You were one of the few that stood in the breach and said, this is not right now.
00:46:19 The overwhelming information is coming out now.
00:46:22 That Fauci and these guys knew it all along, sir.
00:46:24 Oh, yeah, they did.
00:46:25 Yeah, so, I mean, I didn't sign up for this job, but I got thrust into it.
00:46:29 But basically, you know, I'm a pulmonary and critical care specialist.
00:46:32 And when this disease was coming at us, you know, it was a pulmonary and critical care
00:46:36 disease.
00:46:36 Everybody was landing on ventilators.
00:46:38 And me and a few colleagues, we started a nonprofit, and we just started reading everything
00:46:42 we could.
00:46:42 We learned everything we could about the disease and how to treat it.
00:46:45 And the government was not putting out any treatment guidance besides, like, supportive
00:46:49 care-only nonsense.
00:46:50 And we started publishing protocols.
00:46:52 And we were highly published, very well recognized in our specialty.
00:46:55 So I would say we were high-profile doctors, but the government didn't like that.
00:46:59 And so we got on their radar real quick.
00:47:01 And then my friend Senator Ron Johnson invited me to give testimony in a Homeland Security
00:47:08 meeting about repurposed drugs to treat cancer.
00:47:11 And I gave all of the emerging evidence on ivermectin showing how overwhelmingly effective
00:47:17 it was.
00:47:17 And that's when my life changed, Steve.
00:47:19 I mean, within days, I had the Associated Press doing like a hit job on me, telling me I'm
00:47:25 incredible and just basically attaching ivermectin to hydroxychloroquine, you know. And then I wrote
00:47:31 a book while detailing my experiences. It's called The War on Ivermectin. And with everything that I
00:47:36 learned and everything that happened, which is that I saw manipulated trials conducted by major
00:47:41 universities around the world, published in the highest impact journal, the trials were so sloppy
00:47:46 and flawed and clearly designed to fail. No one recognized it. We couldn't call it out. I wrote
00:47:52 tons of white papers. I started losing jobs. You know, my last job, I mean, the guy who hired me,
00:47:58 he knew. He just said, hey, Pierre, man, we don't need you anymore. And he's like, this is a war and
00:48:03 you're a casualty. And I said, yeah, I get it. And I left and I've never gone back. And, you know,
00:48:07 I've continued to advocate. I was on early to the fraud of the vaccines, not the fraud, the toxicity
00:48:12 of the vaccines. I mean, within days of their rolling out, VAERS was exploding. People were
00:48:16 starting to drop dead in the street. I was looking at VAERS reports early on. I saw report after
00:48:21 report where, you know, somebody gets a shot at 12, 15 in the afternoon. They get home because
00:48:26 they don't feel well. They lie in bed because they're not feeling well. Then the wife finds
00:48:30 them pulseless and cardiac arrest six hours later. Report after report after report. And so I just
00:48:35 kept going and I kept screaming. And ultimately, Steve, you know, they came after me, right? And
00:48:41 And so the one thing that they did, luckily, I did not lose my license, but I lost my specialty
00:48:46 board certifications, which I could care less about because I left the system.
00:48:50 I'm in private practice now.
00:48:51 And so it didn't have really a material effect on me except for one thing.
00:48:54 And I think you'll appreciate this and understand it.
00:48:57 By them doing that, decertifying me, now that's a form of censorship, right?
00:49:04 Because now, anytime I appear in any outlet on any interview, it's always the descriptors,
00:49:11 that precede my name is the controversial or the discredited or, you know, whatever doctor or the,
00:49:16 you know, Dr. Corey who lost his three specialty board certifications for being a misinformationist.
00:49:22 And I appreciate you bringing this up because every single thing I said from day one to the
00:49:29 last day I spoke about in COVID was factually correct, driven by immense amounts of evidence
00:49:34 that I had supported. I would never say anything in public unless I knew it to be true. And I knew
00:49:40 things to be true far before most people, because I was deeply studied on numerous areas, and I
00:49:44 didn't rely on just official data. I mean, we know the official data was all fraudulent, and it was
00:49:49 all part of propaganda and disinformation. And like, you know, the more I studied it, the more
00:49:54 I saw it, and I became, I think, a de facto expert in disinformation. You know, the tactics they use
00:50:00 to get you, they just send messages and stories to get you to think or act in a certain way.
00:50:06 And they had people lining up, I hope I'm not too grave, but lining up to the slaughter.
00:50:12 They were lining up outside pharmacies for toxic, lethal, experimental gene therapies.
00:50:17 It was occurring across the country, and our death rates were skyrocketing.
00:50:22 And they got to hide that under the cover of COVID.
00:50:25 They called everything COVID.
00:50:26 Meanwhile, most of the tragedy, and I think the humanitarian catastrophe that we lived through, was actually driven by the vaccines.
00:50:33 And it's one of the darkest periods in American history.
00:50:36 I don't think the history books will ever get it right. I don't know if it's my job to make sure
00:50:40 they get it right. But, you know, I wrote my book. I told my truth and my story. And I hope that book
00:50:46 lives because I think people need to learn from this period of our history. We're going to send
00:50:53 everybody to it real quickly. Talk to me then about California last week. Why is this a big deal?
00:50:58 Yeah. So California, they went crazy. They passed a law. Again, they were trying to control
00:51:06 information, because that's how they get people to do what they want to do. They don't want
00:51:10 people to know the truth. So the California legislature back in 2021 or early 2022 passed
00:51:15 a law, both houses passed a law, which made it such that if a doctor said anything that departed
00:51:24 from, and I'm going to use air quotes here, scientific consensus, which they manufacture,
00:51:30 right? So if I have an individual opinion or a different interpretation of the existing data on
00:51:35 the safety or efficacy of the vaccines, I would not be allowed to share that. So they're basically,
00:51:41 they were, you know, violating my First Amendment rights. How did they try to do that? Well,
00:51:46 this is how they did it. They called that speech conduct, part of being a physician, and right,
00:51:53 so medical boards, they're enforced, they have to force that you are meeting the standard of care
00:51:58 and generally accepted practice. So by making your speech conduct, if your speech departed from what
00:52:05 was considered, you know, proper speech or consensus speech, you were violating standards
00:52:11 of care.
00:52:11 Clever, right?
00:52:13 We went after him.
00:52:14 So children's health defense was so helpful, you know, great lawyers there, always, they
00:52:18 fought so hard for some of the violations of our liberties.
00:52:21 And I became the name plaintiff on the case.
00:52:24 It was Corey V. Bonta.
00:52:26 I'm sure you know who Rob Bonta is, right?
00:52:28 He's now the attorney general of California.
00:52:29 Oh, yeah, sure.
00:52:30 And although that law got repealed because it was deemed unconstitutional, it didn't stop the board.
00:52:36 The medical board came out public and said, we don't need the law.
00:52:39 We're still going to enforce this as conduct without the law.
00:52:42 So we went after him.
00:52:44 The case did not go well, Steve, for a long time.
00:52:48 It got dismissed a couple of times.
00:52:50 The Supreme Court wouldn't hear it.
00:52:52 And then the Supreme Court put it to the side for 10 months.
00:52:55 I'll just give you the long story short.
00:52:57 Ultimately, a week ago, we won.
00:52:59 and yeah
00:53:00 I'm going to get into more of that
00:53:04 we'll talk to you about getting you back on tomorrow
00:53:06 maybe tonight
00:53:06 can you give real quickly
00:53:07 the website where your book is
00:53:09 and all your information on social media
00:53:11 we have about 30 seconds
00:53:12 on Amazon
00:53:13 the war on ivermectin
00:53:15 and then my sub stack is
00:53:17 pierrecorymedicalnewsing.com
00:53:19 thank you brother
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