00:00:29I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:51It's Friday, 14 August, Year of Our Lord, 2026.
00:00:54I am so excited about this show today because I got four.
00:00:57well I got three I hopefully get four of the smartest people I know and uh on topics that
00:01:03uh the warm posse wants to get in back of Wade Miller from CRA and he's holding down the fort
00:01:09uh for the great team Russ vote and others that had to leave and go to the administration
00:01:13Dr. Bradley Thayer is with us and Sophia Carstens hopefully I'm gonna be able to get
00:01:18Pierre Corey and um because at the end we we there's a few things in that interview this
00:01:24morning i still want to follow up on with dr p or cory and so we're hopefully going to get him
00:01:27later in the show i want to start with wade and by the way we'll have if we got time we'll have
00:01:32a little cold open maybe later uh if we can fit it in but it looks like me now we may not be
00:01:37so wade um and by the way just a hat tip ross and the guys are doing such a great job
00:01:44over the administration coming from cra you guys were there to hold down the fort but quite frankly
00:01:49just doing a spectacular job and thing for the whole audience just wanted to say thank you we
00:01:54understand the workload has increased dramatically and it's pretty heavy to start with i want to go
00:01:59to this policy brief and maybe i can um if we have it later we'll put it up but the they came
00:02:07with this poll they had this poll from fox news yesterday on morning joe and it showed the uh the
00:02:14the Senate candidates and we're getting blown out. I don't know, 13 points in, uh, in Georgia,
00:02:19nine points in North Carolina. I mean, major, uh, Southern States. But last night, uh, a poll
00:02:27came out, an independent poll on the first, really the first cut of the situation in Michigan.
00:02:32And, um, cause we've been saying, Hey, look, 84 days from now on the evening of November 3rd
00:02:38At midnight, the folks could be looking at Ma'am Donnie running New York City, Abdul as the senator from the arsenal of democracy in Michigan, and Tallarico is the senator from the great state of Texas, the jewel of the crown.
00:02:57Now, the first poll out on Mike Rogers and Abdul, I think, shows Rogers up four or five points.
00:03:03There's other polls coming out, I think, over the weekend, early next week, that I have taken a look at and kind of reinforced that.
00:03:09And that is where I think people are starting to focus on this red-green alliance.
00:03:13You've written a policy brief, not a news story, but really an in-depth policy brief over at americarenewing.com right now, the home site for CRA.
00:03:23assessing the Marxist-Islamist alliance aimed at America's heart.
00:03:34Yeah, so I think in the aftermath of 9-11 and really a lot of the foreign policy interventionism
00:03:40across the globe, we overly focused on terrorism and terrorism abroad, really.
00:03:46And so what happens is if you're looking at this through the lens of three to five percent0.84
00:03:50of the population are terrorists, then that makes 95% of the rest of the Muslim society's victims.
00:03:57So we started having large amounts of refugees and asylum seekers being brought here,0.96
00:04:02dispersed all over the country. They've aggregated into their own communities now,
00:04:06and they're starting to get involved in the political process. And if you look at the
00:04:11goal of Islam, and the imams say this, you can see what they're saying in Texas and elsewhere,0.81
00:04:17and you look at the goals of the communist movement, the DSA types, they are overlapped
00:04:24perfectly except for the end state. The end state, which is that eventually if they come to power,
00:04:31the Muslims kill the Marxists, but the Marxists are too stupid to understand this. So they are1.00
00:04:35increasingly working together in our political system to try to attain power. And they're not
00:04:41quiet about why. They want to destroy Western civilization. They want to destroy capitalism.
00:04:45They want to destroy the Constitution. How do we know this? They say it. Increasingly, they're just saying it. We're having fewer AOC types who are just far left progressive kind of crazy types and more of the committed communists, you know, not just democratic socialists, but actual communists.
00:05:05And so these two forces are aligning, and the Marxists view the Muslim communities as oppressed communities, and so they're natural allies.0.97
00:05:17And again, the problem is that Islam culturally, in large numbers, is just completely incompatible with our system.0.90
00:05:23And just because someone doesn't want to blow themselves up in a crowded marketplace, they're not a terrorist.0.97
00:05:29Well, a shocking amount of these populations believe that apostates should be tried in a Sharia court and put to death.
00:05:38And that's completely, that should be legal and that should be the law and that's how things should happen.
00:05:44And I think everyone that's watching this and you agree that anyone who has that viewpoint, one, shouldn't be led into our borders in the first place.
00:05:52And two, if they hold those views now, they should be immediately identified and deported.
00:05:57And so we've got to recognize that it's not 3% to 5% of the population, that the communists
00:06:03are taking over power of the Democratic Party, and that the Muslim community itself is not
00:06:12I mean, we could be talking 80%, 90%, 95% of these populations that are not suitable1.00
00:06:16to be here in the first place and they they represent a long-term cultural conquering0.70
00:06:22movement that seeks to uh methodically and slowly abuse our democratic systems of free speech
00:06:30i don't think it's a long i don't think it's a i don't think it's a long-term i think it's an
00:06:35immediate problem now look in texas texas is so advanced hopefully we're gonna get amy meck on
00:06:42Natalie and other people next week this situation in Texas is a five alarm drill the one thing we
00:06:48did in Texas in moving the show there and getting him back a proposition I think it was 10
00:06:52to prohibit Sharia law was to give people a permission structure we actually had Paul
00:06:58Renner a former surface warfare officer that was former speaker of the house of Florida running
00:07:03for governor you know very competitive he and Byron Donalds and Collins and Fishback in a real
00:07:08dogfight down there and and he said hey i asked him for the top issues wade and he says look data
00:07:14centers but he says hey the other one's the islamification of florida and i said well how's
00:07:18that come up he says people come to him after his talks and speeches and they say hey i don't want
00:07:23to say this out loud but thank you so much for talking about this it's the number one issue in
00:07:28my hometown and in particularly in the i guess the tampa saint pete so this is a problem now and i0.73
00:07:34think that their union of the marxist jihadists they understand how tough it is to take down the
00:07:39west but they're they're united for that and they'll worry about their own inner squad scrimmage
00:07:46and fight decades from now but in in in describing this because the guy you guys at cra are pretty
00:07:53good about practical i mean russ ain't running omb because you guys are a bunch of college
00:07:59professors right you're you're you're you're quite practical people over at cra about actually how to
00:08:05take things on knowing that we have this alliance and look enough people know about people say you
00:08:10got to get the word out say hey you just got to look around people that don't understand this
00:08:14don't want to understand it and i can appreciate that because this is quite when you face the facts
00:08:21wade miller the facts are very scary we already have so much innovation already in in that look
00:08:28at mandami there's what 8.4 million people in new york 42 percent of the population are foreign born
00:08:35you know we can't even do ice raids to to uh do any mass deportation it's a huge article in the
00:08:42new york time or washington post saying how terrible trump is and how terrible dhs is talking
00:08:48about a fleet of jets we purchased for i guess a billion dollars i said idle they never get to the
00:08:53point that they were there for mass deportations and they're sitting on tarmacs not being used.
00:09:00So, Wade, knowing that this is a union of forces that primarily are focused, their task and purpose
00:09:08is to take down the West, what then are we to do? Well, you're absolutely right. It is a five-alarm
00:09:15fire in places like Texas right now. They are aggregating in certain areas, gaining a foothold,
00:09:19And then they're going to expand beyond that. So you may not see this, the level of the problem if you're in rural West Kansas.
00:09:27But if you're in North Dallas, you see it and it is coming to a community near you.
00:09:33So we have got to get serious about what our policies are on who we're letting in and our vetting standards.
00:09:40And I have reason to believe that. Hang on. Hang on one second. Hang on one second. I got to go back to that.
00:09:46He said, Kansas. Dude, North Dallas are some of the great little cowboy towns.
00:09:53I mean, we're not talking Queens. We're not talking the Bronx or we're not talking Dearborn or aspects of Detroit.
00:10:00We are actually talking. We say the Dallas Fort Worth complex right north of that are these iconic towns in the heart of the American myth of the West that are being overrun right now.
00:10:11And they've targeted these towns with these mega projects.
00:10:34If the average person were to guess how many mosques are in Texas right now, most people would undercount and underguess what the actual number is.
00:10:42It's just it's it's through the rhythm. Amy Beck, of course, does wonderful work on this all over the country, but really does great work on exposing this problem in Texas specifically.0.97
00:10:53And I certainly rely a lot on her research of exposing what these imams are saying.1.00
00:10:57But we have to get serious about what it will take to stop. So there's two priorities here. One is the border. We got to stop these radicalized individuals and these are the vast majority of these populations from getting in in the first place.1.00
00:11:14We have got to improve vetting standards. And I think that works ongoing. And then we need to look at the populations who are here and start figuring out how do we get them out? If they're not citizens, how do we start deporting them? Because a lot of these people are saying and hold extremely radicalized views that are not suitable. And then if they are, if they've become citizens, how do we denaturalize them?
00:11:32If you're saying that I believe in a caliphate and the destruction of Western civilization in the United States of America, I think they should be hotlines straight to denaturalization.
00:11:43But that takes a political class that understands the scope of the problem and is willing to start moving in the direction of this corrective, knowing that when you do this, you are going to be called a racist.
00:11:57This is about saving America for Americans, whether you're black, Hispanic, Asian, white, it doesn't matter. This is a conquering ideology, has nothing to do with race, has nothing to do with skin color. It is an evil ideology that is seeking to destroy us, and we have to get serious about defending ourselves from that.
00:12:16um denaturalization let's spend it because wait you're a smart tough guy given some of these0.91
00:12:27victories you're seeing in the primaries in the democratic party some of these dsa members are
00:12:32marxist jihadist can they in your interpretation of the constitution can they actually uh pledge
00:12:39can they pledge the allegiance to the constitution uphold it and actually sit in congress either the
00:12:45United States Senate or the House, sir? No, we're working on a legal memo outlining the power that
00:12:52a Speaker of the House may have in this regard and what legal options. But if you are saying that
00:12:57the United States needs to be destroyed and communism is supreme or whatever, I think that
00:13:05that is a bright red line that is different than talking about Social Security policy or tax rates
00:13:11or corporate tax rates or social welfare programs, I think that there exists a power right now.
00:13:17And right now, the courts from the 60s would say that there's three categories that Congress
00:13:22can consider. We think that the oath is the fourth category that needs to be added. And we
00:13:28want to challenge that and say that the oath is a substantive oath. It's not just a box-checking
00:13:33exercise, that you actually have to believe the oath. And if your public comments betray that
00:13:39oath, then you should legally, the House of Representatives should be able to legally
00:17:34Dr. Thayer, I came in touch with you with the Andy Marshall, the historic, legendary Andy Marshall over at the Department of War.
00:17:44Had a group when I was in the Pentagon back in 81 called the Net Assessment Group.
00:17:48Now, it wasn't the internet, but it was kind of the internal think tank for how you win the Cold War.
00:17:54And he basically authorized a book that you wrote when I first met you that was one of the most profound books I ever read about the Chinese Communist Party.
00:18:02You've got a new book coming out from, and you did a great book with Captain Finnell early on for war.
00:18:06And we've got a new book coming out next Tuesday that, and you, you know, you talked to us about a year ago,
00:18:12But I think you were quite prescient in understanding the moment we were coming to, because the reason this book is so important, this ain't a struggle that started yesterday, and it's not a struggle that's going to be solved tomorrow.
00:18:30And it's going to take a real commitment of people in the West to really stop this, thwart it, and destroy it.
00:18:41The book is about the 100-year struggle we've had with communism, and this is kind of one of the underpinnings of the Marxist-Jihadist uprising inside the wire.
00:18:50This is why we don't need to go over Hell's Half Acre into the Middle East to fight it.
00:18:59Why did you decide to write it, and why did you decide to write it now?
00:19:02Well, Steve, thank you, and thank you for writing the excellent foreword to the book.
00:19:07I wrote it now because Americans are recognizing, as I did, that we're in a revolutionary time in the United States.
00:19:14And folks need to recognize what's at stake.
00:19:17We have the path of sustaining a constitutional republic in the U.S. or going down the path of communist tyranny.
00:19:24And a lot of what folks cover, of course, is what's happening, which is so important to do,
00:19:30whether that's on immigration or whether that's on holding Fauci accountable or the activities of the CCP.
00:19:36all necessary. But this book explains why this is happening. Why is it that the United States
00:19:43has been forced into really a revolutionary time, and Americans are asking themselves,
00:19:49what's happened to America? What is going on with the United States, where you have
00:19:54this red-green alliance, or you have communists having taken over the Democratic Party,
00:20:00running candidates who are openly communist. Why is that happening? And the book explains
00:20:08why that's happening and what has to be done to reverse it. And now is the time, because we are
00:20:15truly at this moment. You can call it a 1776 moment. We're at a time where we have a fork in
00:20:24the road path. And if things don't, every election is important, of course, but if things do not go
00:20:31well for the Republicans in the midterms, or obviously, in 2028, we are going to see the
00:20:39country destroyed and deliberately destroyed by the Democrats and all the ways. So this is what
00:20:46But hang on a second. We had this fight. And in fact, the first film I ever made, In the Face of Evil, I took Peter Schweitzer's book. It's based upon Peter Schweitzer's book, Reagan's War.
00:21:00and i went back and really started 1914 to 1989 the the beginning of the first world war
00:21:08to um the fall of the berlin wall and uh and i was making the movie about radical jihad because
00:21:17after 9-11 all my buddies at goldman sachs were and people i knew in new york were all singing
00:21:22god bless america going out of parks and i said you know i know knowing these folks and the
00:21:26progressives i knew in new york were friends of mine i said that's going to last about 90 days
00:21:30And when we start going over there and banging heads to get to the bottom of this, they're going to flip.
00:21:35And, of course, that's what happened, although the banging of the heads took on an expedition to Iraq and other places that never should have happened or disastrous.
00:21:44But the point was we fought a long war.0.57
00:21:48And I said, hey, a radical ideology like like Jihad is the same radical ideology kind of as communism, just in a Marxism, just in a different a different secular format because it's it's atheistic.
00:29:53why did the lakers sell for 12 billion dollars they sold for 10 billion just uh two years ago
00:29:59and that was a massive jump over what uh the bus family thought the value of it was for years
00:30:07why is queen the the music group's uh catalog sell for music publishing rights i think for
00:30:13over a billion 1.1 billion i think springsteen a couple of billion three four billion is that
00:30:18because the value of these things are getting more value the scarcity value or is it because
00:30:23the what undergirds the world's financial system the u.s dollar the federal reserve note we call
00:30:30the united states dollar the greenback is dropping and purchasing power uh i think it's the latter
00:30:35but you need to understand that yourself nobody can tell you that you need to it's like riding
00:30:41a bike you need to understand that's the reason we did the end of the dollar empire started
00:30:45I don't know, six years ago. There's eight free installments. The ninth is certainly coming out
00:30:52in a couple of weeks as we tweak it. Why? I think we're having a national conversation now. Do we
00:30:58want to be the prime reserve currency? It comes with all types of obligations to wit, supporting
00:31:06the petrodollar in the Persian Gulf, making sure that can happen, intervening in Japan in the bond
00:31:11market to make sure you support the yen. However, when you're at $40 trillion of debt, and one of
00:31:17the big debates we're going to have coming over the fall, folks, take your number two pencil out,
00:31:21is lifting the debt ceiling. Oh yeah, it's coming, baby. You're going to have an omnibus
00:31:25in December. Write that down. Take your number two pencil out, write that down.
00:31:31This is all inextricably linked with massive debt, not just the U.S. government, $40 trillion,
00:31:37dollars, $2 trillion deficits, as we say all the time, in perpetuity. I think 7% of GDP right now,
00:31:44which is not sustainable. But the world has, I think, $300 trillion in debt, I was reading.
00:31:49That's at every level, you know, from county water commissions, junk bonds, credit cards,
00:31:55all of it. And we're awaiting the world's largest margin call. Get ahead of that. Birch gold.
00:32:01The Lakers are a physical asset. The music catalog of Queen and Bruce Springsteen are
00:32:09physical assets. Also gold's a physical asset. Understand that in a day of, in kind of
00:32:15maybe pre-Weimar inflation or maybe pre-Weimar turbulence, check it out. Understand it. That's
00:32:24where we walk you through the whole history of this. Very proud of it. The Philip Patrick
00:32:28team's available and talk to them that's the guys you got to talk to the team over there
00:32:32sophia karstens i've been waiting for this piece for quite a while brownstone and i guess
00:32:39dr jeffrey tucker and you guys over there just doing amazing work you've got a piece up on
00:32:44brownstone that i want everybody to read and immerse themselves over the weekend uh i you
00:32:49know back in i think it was 2017 in february i came on stage at cpac and they said uh what are
00:32:56the three goals of the, this is 30 days into, I think I said we got three things. It's American
00:33:01economic nationalism, it's tariffs and trade policy, it's America first national security
00:33:07of which we're going to put America first and no more foreign wars. And third is deconstruction
00:33:13of the administrative state. The audience, the war room posse at the time, the audience
00:33:19cheering, yes, I mean the shouts, yes, yes, take down the administrative state. The media standing
00:33:25there with thousands of them, and all of a sudden they go, what is the administrative state?
00:33:30Totally clueless. So we spent a lot of time here talking about the deep state and taking it down,
00:33:35but the underpinnings of that is the administrative state, and you've done a
00:33:39magnificent job of explaining the intellectual origins of this. This comes from a deep kind of
00:33:47political and philosophical thought, and you lay it out in your piece, and particularly how it got
00:33:54visited upon the United States of America, because the revolutionary generation, as you read the book
00:34:00Revolution, they ain't talking about administrative state. In fact, the revolutionary generation and
00:34:05most of the nation builders, the founding fathers, didn't want administrative state.
00:34:13They thought England had that. Ma'am, can you take it from the top and walk us through your piece?
00:34:17Yeah, absolutely. So the deep state is not hidden. It is in the federal register. We did not just find ourselves here at some cliff's edge. This has been going on for about 100 years.
00:34:32What we're talking about when I say the administrative state is a bifurcation of our original constitutional republic, which was, yes, politics and, yes, government.
00:34:51So, and this was theorized by Wilson, who effectively said democracy is too important to be left to the voters.
00:35:00And he theorized that an administrative state was necessary. It needed to be shielded from politics and that, in fact, politics really had no business interfering with the administrative state.
00:35:14And what that means is effectively, the politics in which we engage today, our elections and all of these things, it's basically a rubber match. You know, the boxing term, we can have our elections and we can elect our people and the voters turn up and, you know, the straw man of election interference, whatever you want to say, but fine, we elect someone presumably in free and fair elections.
00:35:40That person, even an executive branch electorate, might be allowed to ride in the back of the car, but he is not allowed to drive.
00:35:52What is driving is the administrative state.
00:35:55And that, again, theorized by Wilson, and then starting about 100 years ago, has been implemented.
00:36:02And it went through a sweeping change in the 60s because of a man called Rudy Doitsky, who was nicknamed Red Rudy.
00:36:24We keep thinking we're defeating the problem and that democratic socialism and all of these
00:36:30vanguard state icons are not the same thing, but they absolutely are. We are still fighting the
00:36:37same war. We've been fighting it for a hundred years. And so this Rudy Doitsky, nicknamed Red
00:36:44Rudy after communist China, Mao's long march, effectively took the Port Huron statement0.98
00:36:54um i i submit that it's it's not useful idiots it's useful innocence people genuinely legitimately0.96
00:37:01are on the right side of things i say that as a recovering democrat i was on the right side of it0.99
00:37:06so i thought um you know i when i lived in the city hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on
00:37:13hang on tell people what the port huron statement is why is that important and why is this now the
00:37:18implementation of it. Can you give us that statement? Yeah. In Port Huron, they collected
00:37:24a group of university students, effectively, and other union workers and some other things,
00:37:29other groups, to create a statement and a platform, Foundation for Policy, that effectively
00:37:40suggested that we, and their statement was, you know, we, the new generation looking uncomfortably
00:37:49at our future, born out of the Cold War and born out of the racism, the racial unrest, you know,
00:37:55that was happening at the time in the Vietnam War, born out of these things, you know, we're
00:38:00looking at an uncomfortable future and we're looking at this cultural shift. But that shift
00:38:07was a shift from the old left, which was focused on unions and disparity of economics to more of a
00:38:19cultural viewpoint. And that is through the lens of what's called critical theory, which was
00:38:25developed at the Frankfurt School and found a home at Columbia at the IPS Institute for Political
00:38:32studies, and it effectively changed the view of looking at philosophy, which was a study of more
00:38:40esoteric ethics, things like that, through the lens of Marxism, which I submit is not just Marxism,
00:38:49but Marxism slash Leninism. Hang on for one second. Hang on, slow down. I want to make sure
00:38:58the audience understands. How do we have a Virginian, Wilson, who goes to Princeton and
00:39:07gets a PhD? I think he's the first PhD president we ever had, so the first kind of modern
00:39:13intellectual. How do you get from Wilson and what inspired him to then get down to
00:39:21during, I guess, the 1930s, when a lot of the Frankfurt School either left Germany
00:39:28and came to the united states or in that time in 1930 so right after the war and you got the
00:39:33fdr administration how do you what is the merger of wilson's thought of what the administrative
00:39:40state was going to be and then these guys that are clearly herbert were herbert marcusa
00:39:45and this crowd that are clearly marxist and at least cultural marxist that come to southern
00:39:52california when they're they leave europe because of the pressure of uh fascism how did those two
00:39:59kind of merge even before the 1960s how do it because this thing had tremendous momentum when
00:40:03you get to port huron and the students for democrats you know sds and the anti-war movement
00:40:08all that this thing's got a lot of they got a lot of it's got a lot of steam on it does it not
00:40:13yes it absolutely does and the reality is that this actually the funding for this came during
00:40:21the depression, when they called all the gold and then raised the price of the gold, the government
00:40:28profited handsomely on that. They said, oh, hoarding gold is furthering the problems of
00:40:36the depression. Everybody needs to let go of their gold and sell it for paper. And that gave
00:40:43the administrative state funding to focus on these projects that were geared towards the
00:40:51infiltration. And that is what Rudy Doitsky effectively was pushing for. And you just
00:40:58named the people who were supporting it and then ultimately helping to fund it, Mark Hughes and a
00:41:05lot of these guys that were all Marxist, but not just Marxist. Again, we're talking Marx,
00:41:10not just social Marxists. We're talking about full-on Marxist Lenin. Khrushchev famously said,
00:41:19we will bury you, which he later clarified to mean communism will trounce capitalism.
00:41:27And these individuals created a template that suggested that the only way to create this
00:41:36kinds of support was not through full frontal contact conflict. It needed to be basically set
00:41:44down your guns and pick up a highlighter. We're going to take America without firing a shot.0.51
00:41:50And we're going to do it through infiltrating the institutions by working against them,
00:41:58by working within them, not by being doubles, by doing the job, by learning what they're actually
00:42:05doing and subtly increasing the base, increasing the infiltration, proliferation within the
00:42:12institutions, to the point where we have a lot of these individuals and systems now in place,
00:42:21where, again, I come back to the useful innocence. Most of us who were for socialist programs,
00:42:31It comes from a form of weaponized morality and weaponized compassion.
00:42:35People believe that they're on the right side of things and they believe that they're doing the right things, not realizing that they're carrying water for darker forces that are actually hidden behind this veil that have a much darker purpose and a much darker agenda.
00:42:55And it's it's through weaponized compassion.
00:45:36Just the definition of critical theory, because this is from my time with Andrew Breitbart, who was an expert in the Frankfurt School, because it blew him away that these Marxists came from Germany and from, you know, to Southern California, the beauty of Southern California, and hated the United States.
00:45:54Give me a minute on critical theory, ma'am.