00:02:14.820that if you even mentioned even the most modicum of review or control or maybe something was
00:02:22.260non-voluntary, they said you're a decelerationist, the Chinese Communist Party is going to take over
00:02:27.300the world and you're going to be the fault. What's given over the last couple of days,
00:02:32.740do you think this is real or do you actually think this may be a sigh out by some of the
00:02:36.140big guys to come together, former cartel, and get away from liabilities? I think a lot of
00:02:42.480people are able to tell that the heads of these AI companies are disingenuous. We have people
00:02:47.720who work at these companies that are quitting and saying, and giving up a lot of money before the
00:02:53.480IPOs and saying, I am leaving because I really think there's a good chance this kills everybody
00:02:57.960and I don't want to participate in it. We see people in the company staying and saying, I'm
00:03:02.680trying to make it better from the inside, but yes, I believe that there's a good chance this
00:03:06.000kills everybody and we don't have a really good plan, which is why I'm staying from the inside
00:03:09.120to try and do my best. And there's a lot of clear communication from some of these employees. Most
00:03:14.560people are staying silent and taking their paychecks, but there's clear communication
00:03:17.140from some of these employees. There's signs that a lot of the employees are actually worried about
00:03:21.880this. And I think that's the constituency that is determining a lot of these utterances by the
00:03:28.100guys at the top. I think the guys at the top, they won't speak to you straight. They'll be
00:03:32.880asked directly, do you think this kills everybody? And they'll waffle and they won't say no. And
00:03:37.000they'll say, well, maybe we should be regulated like a bank, you know, which is weird because
00:03:41.380when a bank goes wrong, you don't end humanity. Right. But I think they have to say enough
00:03:47.900that they don't have a mass employee exodus, but they're trying to say as little as they can
00:03:53.240without freaking people out within that so that they can sort of like keep going and keep on top
00:03:58.720of this technology. I think that that's what we're seeing. We're seeing these guys gamble with
00:04:03.780everyone's lives. They know they're gambling about their women's lives. They all hate each other and
00:04:07.260want to make sure that they're first and the next guy is not first. And I think people can smell a
00:04:13.780rat, but they're smelling the conspiracy in the wrong place. This is more of these guys trying
00:04:19.280to keep their employees than it is trying to slow down American preeminence in AI. I think all of
00:04:28.700them sort of want to be the ones to get there first. And I think they're all recklessly gambling
00:04:34.140with our lives here. Is it a big tell that none of these companies, the folks went up the chain
00:04:39.420of command, they either stepped out and like you said, a couple, I think the one guy gave up all
00:04:43.680his equity and they were looking at an IPO. He'd be very, very wealthy. Is it a tell that this did
00:04:50.560not come from the top? It didn't say, hey, our employees are telling us this and present the
00:04:55.900guy and say, here's what the concerns are? Do you think those concerns are being going up the
00:05:00.040chain of command and just being thwarted? I mean, I don't know what's going on with all the inside
00:05:06.140baseball. I would say a lot of these concerns, you know, you can tell that these concerns come
00:05:10.600from outside the building because I was there before the companies were made saying that we
00:05:15.140were going to have this problem once the AIs got smart enough. You know, we sort of, from my
00:05:19.420perspective, it's been very theoretically clear that the way that they are training these things,
00:05:23.640they know how to make the AIs more smart. They do not know how to make the AIs more good,
00:05:27.940right? And we've been able to see the signs. In my book, we go over a bunch of the small signs
00:05:33.940that we were like, these are going to blow up into big signs later. Well, they've blown into
00:05:37.460those big signs now. I think that has a lot of the researchers concerned. My guess is it has a lot
00:05:44.720of the CEOs concerned too, but the CEOs are the sort of guys who started a company knowing that
00:05:51.720it was going to risk humanity with it. These guys knew these concerns 10 years ago, 12 years ago
00:05:57.400now, I guess. You can see Sam Altman's old blog posts, Daria Modi's old blog posts, the guys who
00:06:01.940run these companies, Elon Musk, the guys who run these companies. 12 years ago, they were saying,
00:06:06.580oh yeah, this could end humanity if it goes wrong. They're the sort of guys who think when they hear
00:06:12.780that, they say it's important for me to be the one doing it rather than the next guy. That's the
00:06:17.920people at the top. And so I think a lot of the pressure is coming from the people at the bottom
00:06:22.620of these companies once we see all these warning signs, because the people at the top are just the
00:06:28.300sort of people to try and push it all away and convince you everything's fine and tell you not
00:06:33.360to panic and go back to sleep. Go back to your central thesis and tie it to how you saw these
00:06:39.640whistleblowers come forward. You said, if you build it, everyone dies. Technically, what does
00:06:46.780that mean? Explain to the audience, how is that going to happen? Yeah, I can make up some stories
00:06:53.980here, but the fundamental reason that we think AI would beat humanity in a fight if we build the
00:06:59.020sort of AIs that are sort of highly agentic and don't have the goals we want, the reason we think
00:07:03.520that is because they'd be smarter than us, right? And if the high school team is playing a ball
00:07:11.400game against the NFL, I can't tell you exactly what the plays are, but I can tell you who's
00:07:17.640winning, right? And so it's a little bit like that. The easiest way to maybe see how this goes wrong
00:07:23.600is that handing over control of our civilization to the AIs is the plan. People like Elon Musk are1.00
00:07:33.100saying he wants to build automated robot factories that can produce robots, that can produce more
00:07:39.020robot factories, such that you can have robots producing factories, producing robots, producing
00:07:44.800factories with no humans in the loop. Maybe they can also build nuclear power plants and it's all
00:07:48.900self-contained, self-reproducing. And Elon Musk calls this the infinite money glitch,
00:07:54.940the fully automated economy. And the sort of goal of these guys is to build the fully automated
00:08:02.360economy and hand control over to the AIs. And then if the AIs don't care about us, they just
00:08:06.520do their own thing with the planet and all its resources. And then we die not because they hate
00:08:10.900us, but for the same reason that ants die when we're building a skyscraper on top of where their
00:08:14.840anthill used to be. So there's also all these ways that if you try to stop the AIs, but you keep0.74
00:08:21.120making them smarter and smarter, that they can break out of the containers and lie in wait and
00:08:26.840steal money, pay humans to do things, take over robots. There's all these pathways for a smart
00:08:32.400AI to take. And we've seen a lot of warning signs of this with the swarm instance this summer. We
00:08:37.740have seen AIs breaking out of containers that we thought were secure. We've seen AIs trying to
00:08:45.060cover their tracks, trying to find the log files and delete them. So we've seen attempts to deceive
00:08:50.560humans that failed, but we've seen them try. And that's the warning sign that you see before they
00:08:56.080start deceiving us and succeeding, which if they do that, you can't see it. So we've seen the
00:09:01.340warning signs. We've seen that the AIs are not doing what we tell them to do. We've seen that
00:09:04.800they're acting on their own. They're just not smart enough to really grab the resources of Earth and
00:09:09.080use it towards their own ends yet. But these companies are trying to make them smarter. That
00:09:12.840is just the plan. By, you know, coming together after they fought so hard to not have any
00:09:20.540deceleration as all, they were all pedal to the middle accelerations. Does this make you concerned
00:09:26.700They're trying to form some sort of cartel so they can, you know, have some sort of regulation where they dump the liabilities onto the American taxpayer and they get off scot-free in case of or when the time comes that the AIs do something that's got liability to it?
00:09:44.800You know, I think it's a little bit like that, but I think it's in some sense even a bit worse.
00:09:49.820I think what they're trying to do is take the pressure off.
00:09:53.460the public has started to notice that the people in these labs really do believe
00:09:57.900that they risk at least a 10% chance of exterminating humanity, right? And that's,
00:10:05.420if the public really fully notices that, and if our leaders really notice that,
00:10:09.300the answer is not we slap a couple embedded regulators like in finance in there to watch
00:10:14.680what they're doing. The answer is that you shut it down and then you go to China and you're like,
00:10:18.460this is really scary. This could kill us. We're informing you that we think this could kill
00:10:23.400and we are going to start working on you guys not building it either,
00:11:15.360because I know you're pressed for time.
00:11:17.060Number one, the Chinese Communist Party,
00:11:19.140They go back to that about the supply chain.
00:11:21.000This is what concerns me is that the argument is always, well, we've got to let these guys be accelerations.
00:11:24.920There can't be any controls because China might win.
00:11:28.080The entire ecosystem of AI is the technology, the financing, the education, the training all comes to the United States.0.83
00:11:36.200If we wanted to drop the hammer, if that was really a threat on a national security side, we could eviscerate the Chinese Communist Party's AI program from Huawei all the way to the free ride they're getting.0.64
00:11:49.140our models anyway and everything in between correct that's my read you know training one of0.87
00:11:54.980these uh potentially extinction level ais is not something you can do in your basement you know
00:12:01.220this takes a hundred thousand of the most highly advanced computer chips that the supply chain can
00:12:05.620produce this is in some sense the the peak output of uh humanity's supply chain and it's very
00:12:12.180bottlenecked there's like basically only one fabricator in taiwan that can produce these chips
00:12:16.920Part of the process involves a lithography machine from the Netherlands, which can only be made in the Netherlands right now.
00:12:23.340Much of this is controlled by the U.S. and U.S. allies.
00:12:26.120We basically have 90 percent of all of these chips and most of the capacity to make more.
00:12:32.680And, you know, doing the actual training run on these AIs, I'm not saying that ChatGPT is going to wake up and try and kill you tomorrow.
00:12:41.220Right. The type of AI that's dangerous hasn't been made yet.
00:12:44.680and all we need to do is stop it from being made
00:12:47.040and making it with these huge number of chips
00:12:49.800requires assembling them in an enormous data center
00:12:51.800that sucks down electricity comparable to a city
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00:16:10.740Very, very, very important news that is breaking tonight. The United States Supreme Court has just this evening blocked one of the most concerted efforts by President Donald Trump to sow chaos in the midterm elections to essentially launch a federal takeover of America's midterm elections.
00:16:30.700lower courts had blocked Trump's executive order from this spring that would have effectively
00:16:35.860instructed the U.S. Postal Service to block states from distributing and collecting mail-in
00:16:41.700ballots in the normal fashion. Lower courts had blocked that. Trump had appealed to the Supreme
00:16:47.440Court that the Supreme Court should overrule those lower courts and actually let his orders
00:16:52.320to the Postal Service go ahead. But tonight, the United States Supreme Court told him no.
00:16:57.460and the legality and the politics of these things seem like they exist in two different
00:17:04.380universes i mean in this country by very clear dictum in our constitution our elections are run
00:17:11.820by the states this is not a contested thing in american constitutional governance our elections
00:17:17.300are run by the states not by the federal government and certainly not by the president
00:17:21.420that is why voting looks a little different state to state depending on where you live
00:17:26.560That said, in most states, one of the ways you can vote is you can request that a ballot should be mailed to you.
00:17:33.860And then you fill it out at home, you mail it back, and that is the way you officially cast your ballot.
00:17:38.820This is a very normal way to vote in the United States of America.
00:17:42.720This is a way Donald Trump most frequently votes in the United States of America.
00:17:47.280Voting by mail has become a very common way to vote in this country.
00:18:12.440We have four Supreme Court justices who are supposed to be conservative, three of them appointed by President Trump.0.84
00:18:22.180And they sided with the communist women on the court and basically said that the lower courts and all their tyranny had to be supported, even though Justice Alito wrote an eight page dissent, with which Justice Thomas concurred, saying this court in and of itself is responsible for the delay and that the states were responsible, that the plaintiffs were responsible for the delay.0.77
00:18:52.180That's basically the basis on which the Supreme Court denied the request for the stay that0.70
00:18:59.500the Trump administration had sought, which is really to overturn these lower court decisions.
00:19:04.800And the Supreme Court and Justice Kavanaugh on a one paragraph order from which Thomas
00:19:13.480and Alito dissented, said, Justice Kavanaugh said, well, there's just not time.
00:19:18.100Well, let me remind everybody that this time, what, six years ago in 2020, these very same, in many cases, the very same plaintiffs and state election officials were just without any legal authority whatsoever changing the laws because of COVID.
00:19:36.420These were things that they had been trying to get done but couldn't get done through state legislatures and Congress.
00:19:41.680So they just issued these orders that basically upended the process in 2020.
00:19:46.860They did that pretty quickly. And now then the Supreme Court says, in response to a brief that was filed by 14 Republican secretaries of state chief election officers, I might add, saying, oh, we cannot possibly comply. It's way too late.
00:20:05.360when they themselves, along with these plaintiffs, were responsible for the delay.
00:20:10.020And Justice Alito wrote a brilliant dissent, as usual, pointing out that these plaintiffs
00:20:15.780didn't even have standing, pointing out all the Supreme Court cases that concluded that
00:20:20.540similarly situated cases, plaintiffs didn't have standing, pointing out that the United
00:20:26.100States Postal Service is part of the Constitution, is not even subject to the Federal Administrative
00:20:31.780Procedures Act. Brett Kavanaugh in his one paragraph order said, oh, well, they didn't
00:20:36.660follow the Administrative Procedures Act with the post office in issuing these rules. Well,
00:20:41.100they're not subject to the Administrative Procedures Act by law because they're in the
00:20:46.080Constitution. So there's so much wrong with this. But honestly, I'm pretty tired of these weenies
00:20:52.140on the U.S. Supreme Court who keep siding with the Marxist girls. And I'm pretty worried about0.98
00:20:58.800that for the future of our country. And all these tyrannical judges around the country that these
00:21:04.320left-wing plaintiffs, NGOs, and states go to, they run to those courts because they know they'll get
00:21:11.660whatever they ask for. Whether they have standing, whether they have jurisdiction, it's just,
00:21:16.360it's mind-boggling. Besides the administrative, you know, the Marshall thing, the heart of this,
00:21:23.140what did President Trump want? And what did the four justices, three of whom he appointed,
00:21:28.800say no to? Well, basically what the rules say, the president issued an executive order in April
00:21:36.640to his subordinate agencies. Let's not forget the president is still the president, the CEO of our
00:21:42.740executive branch of our country. These are executive agencies that the president directed
00:21:47.940the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Postal Service to work together to come up with
00:21:53.560a process by which the Postal Service would actually exercise some responsibilities for
00:22:00.520delivering only accurate, delivering ballots to people who actually lived in the places where
00:22:08.000they're supposed to be registered and only delivering to people that they know are citizens
00:22:13.260of the United States and directed the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Postal Service
00:22:19.660was to create a portal to which the states would have access to be able to confirm the citizenship
00:22:26.020of the people on the voter rolls. I mean, the technology is there. The data is there.
00:22:32.280This is not anything that's really hard. The president also said that the envelopes for the
00:22:39.560mail should have intelligent barcodes. Well, guess what? Most of the states already use
00:22:46.280intelligent barcodes for election mail. That's not hard to do. They're already doing it. What
00:22:53.020the executive order said was to make a few tweaks to the envelope so that those barcodes could be
00:22:59.140read by these electronic scanners. Like I said, that already exists. They've already been doing
00:23:04.240that. And there's nothing about these rules that is difficult. What they don't want, let's never
00:23:13.360forget what the Democrats don't want, what all their Democrat NGOs don't want, what these 14
00:23:19.740Republican secretaries of state don't want, is they don't want accountability. I want to give
00:23:26.960you one little example, Steve. In our election contest that we filed on behalf of President
00:23:32.420Trump after the election in Georgia in 2020, one of our allegations was that we had data from the
00:23:40.640U.S. Postal Service that showed that ballots had been delivered by the post office and had been
00:23:47.920cast and counted in the final totals in the Georgia presidential election of 2020 that showed that
00:23:55.580ballots had been cast and counted from addresses that the U.S. Postal Service itself said were
00:24:01.660vacant addresses, either vacant lots, houses were not there, the houses were vacant. That's
00:24:08.260according to the data that the post office itself published. And remember, 18,325 votes from vacant
00:24:17.520addresses when the margin was 11,779. That's the only data point you need. And we had a 64-page
00:24:25.720complaint full of those things. But the point is the post office has that data. They have it today.
00:24:30.960They had it six years ago. They know who doesn't live at the addresses. And basically, this was
00:24:37.460just saying, Postal Service, use the data that you have available to you and help us make sure
00:24:42.800that ballots are not delivered to non-citizens and people who've moved and people who aren't
00:24:47.140eligible. This is not hard. They could have done it. Clean up the Save America Act. We've got 50
00:24:56.700days. Anything in that act that could still be implemented in your mind, or are we just going to
00:25:03.480you know, have the election we're going to have.
00:25:06.460Well, it could be implemented if the Senate would pass a budget,
00:25:11.300they would have to pass a budget resolution and a reconciliation bill.
00:25:30.960So, no, I don't see that there's anything that can be done on a broad scale before this election.
00:25:38.980Unfortunately, you know, we've been fighting and fighting for this.
00:25:42.120We have fighting for not to stop non-citizen voting since we started this effort in February of 2024.
00:25:49.340And we're not going to stop fighting. That's the other thing everybody needs to remember.0.56
00:25:52.140You know, the Democrats and their allies and a group of Republicans, squishy Republicans, have just thrown in to try to stop any of these major efforts for 2026.
00:26:05.740But you know what? There are still things we can do.
00:26:08.220I want to urge everybody to say, OK, one of the things we need to do is we need to make sure that the people who live in nursing homes are not having their votes stolen.
00:26:18.280So if you go to our website, we have a Protect Vulnerable Voters Toolkit that is based on the new guidance that Dr. Oz issued from CMS in July of this year that creates some new guardrails around people coming into nursing homes and basically stealing the votes of elderly people in nursing homes.
00:26:39.020You may say, well, what good does that do? Well, let me tell you something. It's hundreds of votes. It can be hundreds of votes, maybe thousands of votes in a given congressional district. So you want to make sure that the wrong people don't get elected. Go protect those people in the nursing homes. We've got the tools to tell you how to do it.
00:26:55.980We need people to be observers, sign up to be observers, be engaged in the election.
00:27:00.420If you haven't done that before, do it this year, because we are not stopping.
00:27:04.720They keep thinking that they can beat us.
00:34:24.900what percentage of 30-year-old men are married and own their home? Number two, what percentage-
00:34:29.540Could you take that as a proxy for social stability? Yes. Social stability, but also
00:34:33.600economic self-sufficiency. And it's a way to measure, you know, if we don't have an H-1B0.94
00:34:39.360scam anymore, the number of 30-year-old men who can buy a home and start a family is going to go0.60
00:34:43.740up because their jobs are going to come back. Even those who aren't directly implicated in the H-1B,0.59
00:34:48.160they're going to see wages go up because aggregate nominal wages are pulled down as a result of a0.99
00:34:53.080labor pool that has so many cheap foreign laborers. And I put out an essay this morning0.95
00:34:56.740entitled The Case for a Nationalist Meritocracy. And the truth is that the so-called meritocracy
00:35:03.680is on Substack or it's on X and it's my pinned tweet. And it starts with this very interesting
00:35:11.860case we saw a couple of weeks ago where Vice President Vance, whom I don't agree with on
00:35:15.240everything, but I think generally has the right idea that he says that American companies who
00:35:20.820need work, should hire and train Americans. And then this venture capitalist, Advak Gupta,
00:35:26.460guess where he's from? He said that is DEI and that is woke. There's nothing DEI about wanting
00:35:31.980a meritocracy with a border around it. The current meritocracy right now in America,
00:35:36.920quote unquote, he's saying it's DEI because American citizens are not, cannot fill those
00:35:43.000jobs. Effectively, that we should give preference to American citizens, which is what America first
00:35:48.320means as opposed to slavishly following GDP or stock price. So what I propose is a rejection of
00:35:54.320our current globalist meritocracy, which essentially says any job, any college slot is
00:36:00.040open to any of the 8 billion people on planet Earth. Instead, my vision that I advocate for
00:36:06.020in my essay on X is a nationalist meritocracy that says that American jobs and American
00:36:11.120opportunities should be exclusively open to American citizens. Let Americans rigorously
00:36:16.960compete in a colorblind, race-blind, gender-blind meritocracy amongst themselves. The example I
00:36:22.620give is if you're signing up for an elementary charter school for your kid in New York City
00:36:27.560and your kid has the highest test score in Manhattan and they get rejected because somebody
00:36:33.380in China or in India has a 10-point higher test score, you'd be livid that your elementary school0.99
00:36:40.620slot for your kid at a so-called meritocratic charter school was given to an Indian who has0.98
00:36:45.000a 10-point score. The nationalist meritocratic thing to do is to reject the Indian, reject the0.92
00:36:51.040Chinese, and accept the American. We have an obligation and a duty to our own country to put0.77
00:36:57.080our own people first. Well, in the H-1Bs, we still, I keep asking all the time, we still haven't seen1.00
00:37:01.340where there's any billet where either education or their job qualifies more than Americans.0.99
00:37:08.020That's exactly right. We've just given it to them for lower wages. That's exactly right. It's a0.98
00:37:11.480labor arbitrage scam. It's a scam. And by the way, corporate greed has loved cheap labor since the
00:37:16.880time of South Plantation owners in the 1830s. It's no different today. I mean, you see corporate
00:37:22.000executives proudly talk about how they're lowering labor costs by replacing us. That has to end.
00:37:27.460I think two arguments. There's the moral and ethical argument, which is to put Americans first
00:37:31.580because it's our country. But two, Americans are far more qualified. You're not going to push the
00:37:36.920frontiers of technological progress by hiring a cheap programmer from India. And so long-term,1.00
00:37:42.420I would actually not be willing to invest in companies that are replacing Americans with
00:37:46.480cheap foreign labor because cheap foreign labor did not put a man on the moon, did not connect
00:37:50.440us to the internet, did not build the Macintosh, did not send the Wright brothers into flight.
00:37:55.660And so we have to remember that you cannot make America great again without Americans, period.
00:38:01.880And particularly people coming into the job market, I mean, 12 million STEM workers with
00:38:05.800work. Was this a forerunner when you were there speaking last weekend or last week? Is that a
00:38:12.640forerunner to the Beau French situation? We're going to be talking about that in the next hour.
00:38:18.280Is that a forerunner that right below the surface, people are looking for a permission structure
00:38:23.040that people like Beau French and Fishback give them to actually debate and talk about a topic
00:38:28.320that's supposed to be you can't talk about? Well, a long, thoughtful question like that
00:38:32.600deserves a long, thoughtful answer, Steve. Yes, that's exactly right. It struck at the same
00:38:37.140core as we look around and we barely recognize this country. I want to quote from someone I
00:38:41.960probably shouldn't, which is Barack Hussein Obama, when he wrote in the audacity of hope
00:38:46.120that call me, quote, nativist, but I shouldn't need a translator to get my car fixed. I shouldn't
00:38:53.660look around my country and feel like it doesn't appear to be a home anymore. And that's that
00:38:59.380same underlying frustration that I think we're both tapping into. And people, is it a bigger
00:39:05.760deal in Florida? Because it's certainly a huge deal in Texas. And I noticed that in the energy,
00:39:10.460you thought you're going to get 50 people. You had 500 and you could have got more if you had
00:39:15.040a bigger room. Is that, that's right below the surface. In fact, it's coming to the surface in
00:39:22.040Texas. It's a huge issue, particularly for young men. Is it as big an issue in Florida?
00:39:26.420It is. It's a huge issue in Florida. I'll speak on Texas for just a moment because I know
00:39:31.000Tallarico is the hot thing right now. Tallarico is a great replacement supporter. On his website
00:39:38.100right now, if you go to the issues page, on his issues page, I'm quoting verbatim,
00:39:43.160he wants to, quote, help small businesses hire migrant labor, end quote. Is that somebody you
00:39:50.700want to support? And I understand some of the frustration around what's going on in Texas
00:39:55.200right now. But Tallarico is a Trojan horse, in his own words, on his website right now. I know
00:40:01.120he's doing 180s on transgender this and that. On his website right now, he says, quote,
00:40:06.380help small businesses hire migrant labor, end quote. That is the great replacement in writing.
00:40:13.620It is a confession to what he will vote for and support in the United States Senate. We cannot
00:40:18.060have Tallarico in the Senate. Match deportations. How high a priority is that for these young men?0.96
00:40:22.860number one. It is number one. One young man recounted to me that he remembered vividly
00:40:27.500seeing at the 2024 Republican convention those signs that said, mass deportations now. Steve,
00:40:33.420you and I know those signs were nowhere to be found at last week's convention.
00:40:37.280They want mass deportations. Well, they were banned. They were banned. I know Mike Howe,
00:40:40.320you know, Mike Howe made a bump. They said, no, we're not allowing those type of signs in the
00:40:45.720main room. That's an indictment on both the mass deportations betrayal, but also on the free speech
00:40:50.360portrayal as well but that's where we are they want to see the invasion reverse they want to
00:40:56.420see re-migration that's what i've supported the young men are the most conservative far right
00:41:03.100so far they've been right that i've seen in a long time that's why we want how did that how
00:41:07.700did that happen given the education system there is given how the odds are stacked against a young
00:41:13.180man right and just this culture this toxic empathy how did these guys come up and be so
00:41:18.580be so, what I would say is not even conservative, but right wing?
00:41:22.100Three reasons. Number one, they remember 08. I remember it vividly as well. They remember
00:41:26.720their own home getting foreclosed on or their neighbor while a big hedge fund or a big investment
00:41:31.260bank got bailed out. That's the first thing. Number two, they remember COVID, the racial
00:41:36.360idolatry that we saw when Anthony Fauci signed that letter saying, you can't go to see a funeral.
00:41:42.020You can't go see your family, but you can go ride in the streets for George Floyd.
00:41:45.400And the third thing is the rise of Nick Fuentes, his audience, his ability to go on there three, four days a week and speak directly and communicate directly with young men and do it in a way where it's showing up on TikTok, on Instagram, obviously on everyone's X feed.
00:42:00.580But if I could say three things in chronological order, it is the 08 crisis and the economic response to it.
00:42:06.300It's the 2020 scandemic and largely the racial response to it, saying you can't go to a funeral, but you can go ride in the streets for a drug addict.
00:49:26.640We try to get some populist policies through there.
00:49:28.820Is there going to be a shift to more nationalism, more American citizens first?
00:49:32.560and we've got to deal with this foreign situation and the capital and all that?0.64
00:49:37.220Yes. And for the movement to be around in four or five years, it has to be.
00:49:41.220You know, if you define America first as whatever is good for the American stock market,
00:49:45.020the American economic zone or American GDP, that will be a betrayal to workers.
00:49:49.280If you define America first, as I think you and I do, Steve, which is put American citizens first,
00:49:54.660that is fundamentally a nationalist populist movement.
00:49:57.580That is a good thing, and that's what we should fight for.
00:49:59.580But if you're siding with the tech billionaires over rural farmers, if you're siding with the H-1B lobby over small business workers, you're going to end up betraying the very people who trusted you.
00:50:10.460You're a savvy deal guy and finance guy.
00:50:12.120Are you a little concerned about this AI with everything we know now about the negative potentiality of it that these guys have flipped too quickly to say, hey, I think we need some regulation?
00:50:23.740Do you think they're trying to do something, put a moat around the big four or five or former cartel or basically schluff off the liabilities?
00:50:31.720My concern is I see a potential of 2008 coming where you've got, you know, we have a leverage, you know, a highly leveraged country with a highly leveraged corporate bet on top of it.