00:00:00.000We're getting ready for the president to address, I'm sure he's going to take questions from the gaggle as he heads out on the beginning of this journey, which will take him to Montana, to Nevada, Montana, Alaska, Arizona, now scheduling also Georgia, I guess, after a break, but man, pretty brutal travel schedule right there.
00:00:24.140and he shows you the seriousness he's he's taking these uh we're gonna uh and so cortez has got a
00:00:32.100bolt i'm gonna get him later either tonight and i am gonna start with michigan with grassroots
00:00:35.940leaders tonight at five o'clock michigan these races in michigan and the house races let's not
00:00:41.440forget the house races because there has been some movement at least rumored movement today
00:00:45.220the republicans pulling out um we can get the shot back up we can do that love the white house shot
00:00:51.140People see enough of my lovely visage, right?
00:00:56.340Looks like there are discussions about pulling money out of the race in New Jersey for the congressman that was in rehab for months and also potentially in Iowa in one of the districts.
00:01:11.620Dr. Peter Navarro, I want to bring you back because I want you to introduce our guest.
00:01:15.520And I would love for you to conduct this part of this interview, and I'll jump in because this reinforces your book.
00:01:23.580And I don't know if there's a public servant out there or someone that's known to the community as big as our next guest and what a gentleman he was, but a fierce fighter who would not back down during the darkest days of the pandemic.
00:01:38.040Dr. Peter Navarro, the floor is yours, sir.
00:01:39.900Well, Dr. Harvey Reisch was a rock star during the pandemic who saved countless lives fighting the Fauciites.
00:01:53.600He was a brother in arms on the hydroxy issue, ivermectin.
00:01:59.780And I'm going to let Harvey speak for himself, because no one does it better than talking about how Fauci—see, the thing about why Fauci must rot in prison, the book, the thing that makes this book is Bobby Kennedy hunting down an 1,100-page private diary of Tony Fauci.
00:02:25.120and then juxtaposing his private comments with what he did publicly.
00:02:34.380And I think the thinking before the diary was uncovered by Bobby Kennedy and released by Rand Paul1.00
00:02:42.580was that Fauci was just like stupid.1.00
00:02:46.560He was a scientist who portrayed himself as the man of science and then made bad decisions1.00
00:02:53.620because he wasn't very bright somehow. But what's so evil about him is that if you read
00:03:00.080his actual diary, so many times he would acknowledge the science and then do just
00:03:06.700the opposite in public. For example, and this is where I'll kick it over to Harvey,
00:03:12.100there's a telling passage in his diary where he says, use hydroxychloroquine. It's been safe
00:03:21.180for decades, no problem. Use it early treatment for COVID. Okay. He says that.
00:03:30.000And then President Trump says hydroxy works publicly. The political wind shift and suddenly
00:03:38.940Fauci is shutting hydroxy down. So he does that. He did the same thing on myocarditis. He knew
00:03:46.440that young men get myocarditis from the vaccine, publicly said it was safe. Same thing for women0.93
00:03:55.280in miscarriages. So, Harvey, welcome to the War Room. Thanks for being here on Why Fauci Must0.99
00:04:02.380Rot in Prison Day. And what you got to say, brother? Well, it's nice to be back with you
00:04:09.400guys. It's been quite a while. You know, I agree with you. I was stunned at the public
00:04:16.560pronouncements that were against science while Fauci was proclaiming himself the emperor of
00:04:21.660science. And the evidence when I first published it in May of 2020, I'll admit was on the thin side,
00:04:29.960but it was clear. And since that time, there were a total of 11 studies by the end of 2021
00:04:37.200that of some 70,000 patients being treated for outpatient COVID and hydroxychloroquine cut the
00:04:46.520mortality by 75 percent. So that is an astonishingly effective preparation medication and yet you have
00:04:54.720Fauci and others in mainstream denial that it doesn't work and trumping up fake studies and
00:05:00.220fake endpoints to try to make that case, you know, to block the usage of this medication.
00:05:08.140And Fauci, now we find out, was admitting, at least to himself, that the medication did work
00:05:15.200to prevent mortality in COVID. And this is something that we should have known very clearly,
00:05:22.080because Fauci did this in 1987 with Bactrim and PCP pneumonia in the gay community in New York.0.76
00:05:30.960They wanted Fauci to espouse using Bactrim, an antibiotic, to treat PCP pneumonia.
00:05:38.480And Fauci said in his usual fashion, bring me a randomized clinical trial.
00:05:43.480Before that, I'm not willing to say anything.
00:05:45.660Meanwhile, he pushed AZT, which was a toxically fatal medication
00:05:49.500that needed other medications to keep you from dying from using AZT.
00:05:53.260And, of course, a large profit motive for the AZT at the time.
00:05:57.260Well, 17,000 gay men died during the time that they tried to mount their own randomized control trial.0.93
00:06:04.180And that's on Fauci's conscience, and he has no conscience.
00:06:08.260So, you know, why Fauci did this in COVID, it's an exact replay of what he did in 1987, 1989.
00:06:14.880maybe mine. And Harvey, just as we go back in the time machine, I'm the Defense Production Act
00:06:24.400Policy Coordinator. I went from trade advisor to essentially the quartermaster for the pandemic.
00:06:30.020My job was to get all the masks and gloves and test kits and this, that, and the other thing.
00:06:34.620But I also had 65 million tablets of hydroxychloroquine that I was literally in the middle of moving into distribution through the wholesale machinery there that then goes into the pharmacies and the hospitals.
00:06:56.080And that's when Fauci does his turnabout and gets the FDA, basically, to take hydroxy out of early treatment.
00:07:08.960The mistake that was made was to only allow it for hospitalized patients, which, by definition, they were already gone.
00:07:19.020They were past the one to seven day window where hydroxychloroquine would be effective.
00:07:24.200And those people were going to die. So think about it. Harvey, do it in your head.
00:07:32.840Fauci killed 13,000 gay men in the 80s because he withheld medication.
00:07:39.420How many people would 65 million tablets of hydroxy saved? And I could have gotten another 65.
00:09:50.080There's a whole chapter in Why Fauci Must Rod in Prison on how Fauci himself used his grant power basically to literally, in his terms, blow away enemies,
00:10:02.540like the people who signed the Great Barrington Declaration. Peter McCullough got fired. There's
00:10:08.740all sorts of people in your profession who got all sorts of pressure. Can you describe
00:10:14.760what it was like to be at Yale during that time when you were standing up for issues?
00:10:22.160Did you encounter any pressure inside the university or outside from the Fauci-Grantsman
00:10:27.940machine, or did you know anybody that did? I did. In fact, there was on Twitter then,
00:10:35.920very briefly, a posting from someone at, I think, CDC, at least part-time at CDC,
00:10:44.680telling the dean of the School of Public Health that he needed to shut me up. And to Stenver
00:10:52.940Mund, the dean then, his credit, he didn't do that. He put out a public statement calling me a
00:10:59.740contrarian. And at that time, I thought that was negative and uncalled for. Nevertheless,
00:11:06.080I take it as a badge of honor today to be a contrarian. When times are wrong, you have to
00:11:11.000be a contrarian to stand up for what's right. And so my colleagues mounted a letter signed by 24 or
00:11:20.40025 of them, saying I didn't know what I was talking about, ignoring the fact that my PhD
00:11:25.520is in mathematical modeling of infectious epidemics. I published on that. It was just
00:11:30.240a diatribe without dealing with the facts at issue. So yes, there was some pressure,
00:11:35.620but it didn't rise to the level of being fired and things that happened to some of the others,
00:11:42.360like Dr. McCullough. Since I don't practice medicine, they couldn't take away my medical
00:11:45.940license steve yeah i i just want to go back in time and we'd like to hold you through the break
00:11:52.780if we can because i want to make sure at the time let's go back to um and because this to me is the
00:11:58.580danger of this whole thing let's go back to the spring of 2020 right when the pandemic was coming
00:12:04.280you know it was all this different information coming peter was fighting fauci in the uh in
00:12:08.900down in the national security in the kennedy uh briefing room but in may of 2020 remember that was
00:12:14.740what, 12 days to stop the spread, people trying it. Your area of expertise versus Fauci,
00:12:21.520and then I'll get to the great Barrington guys, but let's just put your level of expertise at
00:12:26.940that time versus Fauci's level of expertise in this. What was yours? And then what was Fauci?
00:12:32.180Compare and contrast your expertise to Dr. Fauci's expertise, sir.
00:12:37.820Well, I'm an epidemiologist. Much of my work was in cancer epidemiology, but
00:12:42.700But cancer epidemiology studies cancer as the outcome, but has the whole world as exposures.
00:12:48.800And I've done some infectious disease exposures as risk factors for cancer.
00:12:53.620And so I'm relatively familiar with infectious diseases, even if I don't specialize in it.
00:12:59.660But epidemiology is its own scientific discipline that is very denigrated in the scientific community who think they know and understand epidemiologic principles.
00:13:09.060And I can tell you that epidemiology is basically applied probability, and probability, as a mathematical science, is very subtle.
00:13:18.400If you know the Monty Hall problem, the contestant standing in front of three doors, a prize behind one, and Monty Hall chooses one, and then Monty Hall shows you one of the other doors where the prize isn't.
00:13:31.700And you're supposed to either stay with your door or switch to the one vacant one.
00:13:35.700and people don't understand that you double your chance of winning by switching.
00:13:43.920Epidemiologic principles are very subtle.
00:13:46.280People don't get it, and there's a lot of mistakes,
00:13:49.960constant mistakes by epidemiologists even in the CDC,
00:13:53.400and there are published studies that are just bad science
00:13:57.000that I've criticized before in the brownstone many places.0.99
00:14:00.680I've criticized the stupidity of people thinking that they understand epidemiology when they don't.0.98
00:14:05.700So that, you know, was how things were going throughout the pandemic, that people would put up studies, and they would think that they were experts, and they knew what they were doing, and they didn't, because they just did not understand the science that they were talking about.0.98
00:14:19.440So my expertise as an epidemiologist was to understand epidemiologic science properly and apply it properly.
00:14:27.040Fauci, on the other hand, is an infectious disease clinician.
00:14:33.120I want to give plenty of runway to this because I want to talk about the dark days of 2020 and what it told us about the universities, the scientific community, because this is the lesson.
00:14:45.120And that's why the diary is so shocking of what Peter's book's about.
00:20:38.900The floor is yours in addressing Dr. Reich because there's so much to go through.
00:20:43.580I want to make sure you've got plenty of time.
00:20:45.340Yeah, call in 866-PETER-17, 866-PETER-17.
00:20:53.320We want to hear your thoughts on Fauci, take any questions.
00:20:57.380If you're still suffering from long COVID or vaccine injury, you'd want to hear there.
00:21:02.360We just want to hear about your experience with this guy,
00:21:07.880because I've yet to talk to anybody who likes the guy anymore,
00:21:11.880but I know he has his fans. What Harvey was talking about, about how the vaccines weren't
00:21:19.800working and then the boosters weren't working, again, I want to emphasize, in this book,
00:21:24.760Why Fauci Must Rot in Prison, if you look, as I do, in Fauci's private diary, you see
00:21:32.320this progression where he realizes things are failing, writes it down, but he does not tell
00:21:42.960the American people. There's like the famous appearance on a national TV Sunday show where he
00:21:51.300says the vaccine is a dead end for the virus. The vaccine is a dead end to the virus. Just take the
00:21:59.880vaccine, you'll never have to do anything more. You can't possibly get infected. Fast forward,
00:22:06.540people take the vaccine, they continue to get infected. And then he's acknowledging all these
00:22:13.820problems, but he's still telling people, okay, now it's time for the booster. Take one booster.
00:22:19.280And then it's the second booster and the third booster. The funniest episode in why Fauci must
00:22:25.320rot in prison, Harvey, is about the Paxlovid, which was this Pfizer pill that was supposed to
00:22:36.540help people in early treatment. It was basically the difference between hydroxychloroquine for like
00:22:42.780three cents a pill that worked versus Paxlovid, which failed miserably. And the funny part about
00:22:49.960it is. You'd take Paxlovid. It would help for your symptoms. And then you'd get what was called
00:22:56.520the Paxlovid rebound. In other words, the virus would come storming back at you and kick you on
00:23:03.140your ass. And Fauci, this is how smart Fauci is. He took Paxlovid twice and got the rebound twice.1.00
00:23:12.980people say he almost died and it was like dude it's like just read your own diary and so
00:23:22.020this is why this guy must rot in prison and and it's like he there's we could all talk about the
00:23:29.440cover-up i don't know harvey did you know any of those guys the 12 there's 12 people in the book
00:23:35.720in his diary who tells Fauci on January 28th that virus came from the lab, full stop, okay?
00:23:44.300And then a few weeks later, they published that proximal origin paper that says, nope,
00:23:50.500it's from nature. And the guys who published that were up for, I don't know, $5 million worth of
00:23:56.020grants. I mean, are you privy to those guys? Do you know who those guys are? Did you look at that?
00:24:01.740I mean, what's your thoughts on science, Fauci as a man of science, and how he handled this?
00:24:09.060Well, we learned who those guys were in the pandemic.
00:24:12.220They were in a field that was not one of my major scientific research areas.
00:24:16.860But it was very obvious that the virus came out of a lab.
00:24:21.980And the reason for that is the virus's genetics.
00:24:24.800In its genetic code, there is a sequence of 19 genetic letters long.
00:24:31.740that, turns out, exists in a Moderna patent from 2017 in a gene called HMSH3.
00:24:42.300This gene is a DNA correction gene, and it's used in propagating viruses by damaging it
00:24:53.380so that the virus makes more mistakes, makes more mutations, so that it allows it to evolve more rapidly.
00:24:59.580And Moderna included the version of this with an alteration that's 19 letters long.
00:25:06.300And that same 19 letters long sequence is in the virus's genetic code.
00:25:15.920And this was searchable on a large NIH database already at the beginning of the pandemic.
00:25:21.340And so we knew that this had happened.
00:25:23.240And statistically, genetically speaking, the probability that this could have happened by chance is vanishingly small, that the sequences 19 letters long are used for tracing places in genetic sequences in organisms in general.
00:25:39.800It's a unique sequence that exists in only one place, and that's in the virus, and that's in Moderna's patent.
00:46:37.480Dr. Harvey Reich and myself will be taking your calls starting at 12. We're going to go 12 to 2
00:46:45.080at 1 o'clock. I'm actually going to have the individual John Pruden who narrated the book
00:46:51.660so you can buy it on Audible and Amazon and books on tape. And by the way,
00:46:59.200Buy the book today, and I will send you a bookplate autographed by myself and personalized to you or whoever you want.
00:47:10.960Just send your proof of purchase to books at americasvoice.news, books at americasvoice.news, and then the call-in is 866-PETER17.
00:47:22.380Before the break, I was asking Dr. Reese a very simple question.0.58
00:47:27.000And Fauci had this Frankenstein vision where you take a harmless bat virus, you use gain of function research in the lab to infect it to kill humans so that you can make this vaccine to protect yourself in case down the road that virus ever showed up for real.
00:47:46.320Harvey, how crazy is that? And is that your understanding of what Fauci was trying to do?
00:47:52.140uh yes absolutely plausible but crazy that we've never actually made a virus in order to make
00:48:00.660vaccines and make successful vaccines that has never happened in history the bioweapons treaty
00:48:07.240that president ford signed although the senate never ratified it as a treaty nevertheless we
00:48:13.600were committed not to making bioweapons and there was a loophole in that treaty which is that small
00:48:21.060amounts of bioweapons like viruses could be made for the purpose of making vaccines.
00:48:27.300Well, you can imagine that all this bioweapons work was going on, the two papers that were
00:48:33.300published in 2015 and 2016 on precursor COVID viruses, the SARS-CoV-2 viruses, that was all
00:48:42.260bioweapons work. It was acknowledged as funded by NIH in the acknowledgement sections of the0.67
00:48:47.760papers, the Menachery papers. And so they were doing this research whole hog on these bioweapons
00:48:55.540as a flagrant violation of the bioweapons treaty with the supposed plausible rationale that they
00:49:02.500were going to make vaccines out of it. Well, sure, they made vaccines out of it, but the vaccines
00:49:06.640ultimately failed. And as they generally do, unless you have a virus that doesn't mutate.
00:49:15.340And so this has been the problem with this plausible rationale that failed.
00:49:21.740And they were stuck in this paradigm and they could not think their way out of it.
00:49:26.140And this is a problem with intellectualizing things when you have common sense evidence in front of you and you deny the common sense in favor of insane theories.
00:49:37.840Was gain of function research something you were familiar with, Harvey, before the pandemic?
00:49:44.000And the people who, the EcoHealth Alliance and this guy, Peter Daszak, who was responsible for transferring the technology to the Wuhan lab, this was a guy who tried to get the Department of War back in the day to fund that.
00:50:06.660And they thought it was too dangerous.
00:50:08.700DARPA thought, no, we're not touching this.
00:50:11.560So they got to send it off to China.0.99
00:50:13.340I mean, were you kind of tracking any of that, or did this hit us like a freight train because of the stupidity of Tony Fauci, who should rot in prison, by the way?0.95
00:50:25.320So this was not an area that I was actively involved in before the pandemic, so it hit me, like the freight train you mentioned, pretty hard.0.97
00:50:34.820And it's just astonishing to me that Fauci and others like Peter Hotez and so on have this insane idea.
00:50:44.760They full know that every day viruses escape from labs, day in, day out.
00:50:50.940And it's really, by the grace of God, that pandemics have not been started by the fact that viruses are not containable 100% in labs.
00:50:59.440So they know that stuff gets out and they know that that working with dangerous viruses is a dangerous caprice and that they should never have done that in the first place.
00:51:13.560But their egos are so involved in this work, they cannot see the forest for the trees.
00:51:19.160They would rather put their egos first, even if it leads to a pandemic as what happened.