00:00:28.960I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.400Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.160If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.360War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:54.360Wednesday, 2nd of September, Anno Domini, 2026.
00:00:58.840Hanwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room with me,
00:01:02.540joining me for the first half of the show, Colin McMahon,
00:01:05.820legendary US journalist based in Germany.
00:01:11.020We've had to have a quick announcement.
00:01:14.760We've had to have a last minute swapping around of this week's show
00:01:20.400Because without going into details to respect people's privacy, there has been a family bereavement, which we've tried to incorporate, obviously.
00:01:33.540And therefore, in part of the shuffling, we brought forward some of the programming that we had planned on for later on in the week.
00:01:41.900And Colin very generously made allowances for that.
00:01:46.180there is a very important election taking place that we have been talking about now for some
00:01:51.680months on the war room taking place in germany um and everybody all the analysts all the polls
00:01:58.060are suggesting that the alternative for deutschland the afd is going to do pretty well
00:02:02.940especially in the um the region the the land i think i think if if that's the right german term
00:02:10.720the land of Saxony-Anhalt, where the AFD presently are on about 43%,
00:02:17.020which is astonishing numbers that we're talking about here
00:02:19.840for a proportional representation system.
00:02:22.920Colin, before we come to you and talk about the article that you had out
00:02:26.780that's generating a lot of interest and engagement that you had out in Gateway Pundit,
00:02:34.600let's just quickly have, call for the quick 30 seconds,
00:02:37.520that is highlighting, showcasing the candidate of Ulrich Siegmund,
00:02:44.940who could well be, this time next week, the governor of the land of Saxony-Anhalt.
00:03:07.520So Ulrich Siegmund here is projected to be the AFD's first state governor, which is basically
00:03:30.960the same thing as it is in fact in the united states arguably um potentially because of the
00:03:37.860federal system that they still have in germany i'd suggest that they might actually have slightly
00:03:42.060more executive power even though united states governors themselves are pretty um are pretty
00:03:48.280powerful um and this would be the afd's correct me if i'm wrong but i believe this would be the
00:03:54.000the first time that the afd would actually take the governor's mansion tell me what it means right
00:03:59.340now this far ahead of the election um which is basically a spitting distance to have the afd at
00:04:07.92043 percent right now in the polls and there is talk and i know you have written about this
00:04:13.540so the afd could even be um have an absolute majority tell me uh what would that mean for
00:04:20.600for german politics and specifically given germany's importance for the european union
00:04:26.780for EU politics if the dominoes should start to fall
00:04:55.960all uh the the mainstream and legacy parties to keep the afd out of all civil discourse have tried
00:05:02.600to exclude them from from yes uh from from the political process exclude them from committees
00:05:08.680exclude them from from uh sharing even parliaments which is just a formal uh function uh they've
00:05:15.480really tried to ostracize them and um the afd at some point in east germany uh realized that they
00:05:22.040They were going to have to go all the way and start actually winning majorities because no one would ever let them prove their mettle.
00:05:29.040Otherwise, the Christian Democrat Party, which is like the rhino center right party in Germany under Angela Merkel and now Friedrich Meretz,
00:05:37.880have just resolved not to talk to the AFD at all, which has painted themselves kind of in a corner.
00:05:44.200All they can do is is work together with left wing parties like the Social Democrats right now or the Greens, which is just disastrous for for conservative Christian democratic policy.
00:05:56.400Of course, it turns into a climate, gender, open borders, leftist cluster or whatever.
00:06:05.980And and that's spelling the death for Friedrich Merz's government.
00:06:10.780He's the most unpopular chancellor there's ever been in Germany since the Second World War.
00:06:17.660Donald Trump is twice that or more, you know.
00:06:20.580And the expectation is that if the AFD really takes power in Sachsen-Anhalt on Sunday, this could also spell the end of the Merz government.
00:06:33.380It could really dissolve the CDU or at least Friedrich Merz, who's really tied his political fortunes to this idea of a firewall, of cordoning himself off towards the right wing and only working together with left wing parties.
00:06:47.540Even though there are some figures now in the CDU who have been speaking for the last six months about it being time to gently let the firewall policy, the Brandt-Mauer policy, fall by the wayside, because not only has it not worked at this point, it has failed to work.
00:07:09.420that that much is clear um some commentators from the mainstream political families view the
00:07:16.520center right and the center left are actually saying what we've been saying now on the war
00:07:20.420for a couple of years that the that the fact that the main the main so-called mainstream
00:07:25.720establishment political parties have refused to allow the afd into any co-governing coalitions
00:07:36.580at the national level and certainly at the state level as well,
00:07:39.800that has concentrated Germans' minds towards the fact that it is the AFD
00:07:45.720versus everyone else, and that has sort of concentrated attention
00:07:49.280that this is the only serious opposition party
00:09:36.940Any citizen can go in when the ballots close at 6 o'clock on Sunday and observe the count.
00:09:43.980The officials there are often volunteers from the community as well.
00:09:48.740That's been a source of some worry, especially in left-wing areas, because you can't imagine in Germany, blue-haired, nose-wing-wearing volunteers just dropping AFD votes in the trash can.
00:10:01.820But in a state like Sachsen-Anhalt, which is almost 50% AFD now, and definitely together with the Christian Democrats, 60%, 65% conservative, you have a huge backing within the people, and that's what you really need.
00:10:17.380You saw that video of Ulrich Siegmund in Quedlinburg, like a rock star.
00:10:24.120Everywhere he goes in the tiniest villages, people call each other up and say, hey, Siegmund's in town, and suddenly you have 1,000 people standing on a field, and he's talking from a tractor.
00:10:35.140And this is the kind of dynamic we saw in the Donald Trump election 2020 and 2024 and also 2016, where it really takes on an energy of its own.
00:10:46.180It becomes a virtuous circle and people want to be on board.
00:13:10.300He did, you know, without wanting to defend the CDU,
00:13:14.140the Germans ought to have been paying attention
00:13:16.480because he explicitly said when he was leader of the opposition.
00:13:20.560In fact, he actually succeeded, correct me if I'm wrong,
00:13:23.700when Olaf Scholz was still the chancellor.
00:13:26.340They actually, between the two of them, even connived to amend the Constitution before the election so that Friedrich Mertz would be able to take on debt to finance its defense spending to the extent that now Germans themselves...
00:20:27.240Well, strangely, the European Union does use digital voting,
00:20:31.120which has been really outlawed by the German Supreme Court.
00:20:34.200So I'm not sure, quite sure how that works. But yeah, the Germans are very technocratic people. They're very tech savvy. They're a country of geeks, really, or they used to be of inventors. And they had a look at this stuff and they said, no, this just doesn't hack it. This stuff can be hacked. It's been done before. Any good hacker can show you how to hack into a Dominion system. And we've seen that before. So how can you use it for elections?
00:21:04.200just doesn't make sense um okay underlying that point folks this isn't just a rabid
00:21:13.080far-right talking point this is actual serious stuff electronic voting voting via machines
00:21:21.560is not secure and germany i repeat i underline the german supreme court right now along with
00:21:27.800its constitutional court along with this elections court right they are trying they
00:21:32.840They are doing everything they can to suppress the AFD as a political party.
00:21:38.960They're trying to block, they're striking off the candidates list, AFD candidates.
00:21:46.980They're doing everything a totalitarian state can do to block an insurgent anti-establishment party.
00:21:53.660And yet, and yet, with all that going on, the German state says, well, even though, Colin, as you're saying, the AFD is presently heading into these elections on Sunday on more than 50% in the polls, it's going to be a blowout for the AFD.
00:22:10.880Even if the regime is staring this in the face, they have the integrity to say, no, no, no, paper ballots only.
00:22:19.400americans take note of that um do do it do with that information what you will all right uh we
00:22:25.640only we only have you now colin for a couple more minutes you you have um been following this with a
00:22:33.680great deal of interest that um spinal fluid the extraction of spinal fluid from calf embryos is
00:22:45.920being done in the netherlands and even the united states as well um and you've been following this
00:22:52.480peer-reviewed report i think it is that's um that's uh just tell us what the details are here
00:22:58.880and how does this fit in to the maha agenda what's uh what's the administration doing
00:23:05.520on this to stop this pretty grotesque practice
00:23:10.560yeah it's horrifying i i became aware of this uh doing a report on the dutch farmers
00:23:18.480you know the dutch farmers have started protesting again in in august uh we've heard a lot about the
00:23:23.800the dutch farmers since 2021 uh when they were trying to basically take away their farms over
00:23:29.940alleged uh nitrogen uh over over saturation of of the environment uh the dutch farmers are the
00:23:36.720third most productive in the world for this tiny little country after the United States and Brazil
00:23:41.500before their much larger neighbor Germany, for example. Dutch farmers are very productive. They're
00:23:47.380very good at what they do. You know, just as the Dutch-descended farmers in South Africa are some
00:23:53.720of the best in the world, so are the Dutch at home. And the government apparently doesn't want
00:23:59.580good farmers because they're trying to take their land away. So I was interviewing the leader of
00:24:05.380what they call the farmer's defense force there uh jos ubels uh who's a wonderful a wonderful guy
00:24:11.560from north holland and he i was talking about what the motivation for for this may be and he said
00:24:19.500first of all they're taking the uh the land away to build data centers to build ai centers uh the
00:24:25.000netherlands are i guess leading the pack in europe on ai data centers and the other thing is uh they
00:24:30.520want to do away with meat and replace it with lab meat i kind of did a double take and said
00:24:37.720what is lab meat uh and and you all started filling me in that they're they're cultivating
00:24:43.220uh laboratory grown meats um and and trying to replace our our regular wonderful beef that we
00:24:51.020have that the farmers raised uh with lab grown monster meat um and and not only is this
00:25:00.220horrendous on the surface it also involves killing uh the cows killing the uh the the young
00:25:08.080so every every milk cow has to have uh young to keep giving milk and now they're using them
00:25:16.440in the embryo to basically extract their spinal fluid and use the spinal fluid to grow
00:25:24.020lab-grown meat and it's just just ghastly anybody can look up the article and tell me
00:25:29.280or to use the name that the national like the us national library of medicine part of the the um
00:25:35.600the nih um you call this fetal bovine serum folks in the uk 30 years ago 40 years ago
00:25:45.560um 30 years ago we had this phenomenon i didn't know how great it was in the united states of
00:25:51.360mad cow disease and that was a consequence of basically grinding up old cows where they're
00:25:58.820no longer use for anything else and feeding them to young cows including the brain matter and that
00:26:04.920led to the the the the fatal onset disease of um of of croates felt yakub disease i would have
00:26:12.420thought we'd learned some lessons from that clearly not if that's what they're doing here
00:26:16.100instead of using these this grotesque bovine spinal fluid bovine serum colin mcmahon um folks
00:26:26.620can go to your twitter feed if they want more information on this i know you're on top of this
00:26:30.580what is that where do they go to keep up with your analysis especially over this weekend with
00:26:35.440the elections in germany there you go colin f mcmahon uh i'm posting in english and in german
00:26:42.000you can translate the german stuff automatically and say say the rest of what's going on over here
00:26:46.840thank you sean um colin will be back hopefully next week to see if we're getting one to break
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00:31:26.440Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec.
00:31:53.820This is D-E-I, diversity, equality and inclusion.
00:31:59.020These are the huge programs that corporate America was funding, especially under the previous administration.
00:32:05.480And we had thought that under the constant flex of the Trump White House, these programs were dead and buried.
00:32:15.600But apparently not. Andrew, I know you're following this quite closely.
00:32:18.940What is the situation then with these D-E-I programs right now?
00:32:23.820Yeah. So if you remember under the Biden administration, DEI was all the rage. People were very excited they would be putting quotas on how many people they would hire based on skin color, based on sexuality, based on any number of these factors that had nothing to do with how hard the person worked or their innovation or anything like that.
00:32:44.440It was just focused on these qualities outside of what was productive for work.
00:32:49.860So DEI really lost its luster as the Supreme Court both handed down the affirmative action decisions for universities,
00:32:58.200and then the Trump administration said that DEI was no longer legal within the federal government.
00:33:03.580And what happened is not that those things went away, but people who have an ideology,
00:33:08.980and they're obsessed with that ideology, typically are not going to change their mind very quickly,
00:33:15.320especially not if Donald Trump says to, right? And so what did they do? Well, they knew it was
00:33:19.800illegal. They knew they needed to not upplay that. They needed to downplay that. And so what did they
00:33:25.200do? They just kind of changed the names. They kind of kept their head down. They kept their ideology,
00:33:29.680but they changed some of the verbiage around that ideology. They continued to push on hiring
00:33:34.780based on skin color and sexuality and again characteristics that have nothing to do with
00:33:40.620productivity at work we want people to be judged based on the quality of their character not the
00:33:44.900color of their skin and they basically have been keeping their head down waiting for the culture
00:33:49.740to change so they can rear it again and they're already starting to rear it again in what they're
00:33:53.760calling woke two yeah i saw aoc um positioning herself quite intelligently uh ditching woke one
00:34:05.140earlier a week or two ago um so this is um i would suggest that a perfect illustration of this
00:34:14.480It's not particularly an illustration of how DEI is being subversively promoted by corporate America behind the backs.
00:34:34.200But it is an illustration of how cunning corporate America can be with regards to the administration.
00:34:40.740And that is the whole discussion over Lake America, the renaming of Lake America.
00:34:47.380And the new CEO of Apple, I think, that he put his feet under the desk for the first time.
00:34:57.340Apple, somewhat late to the game with regards to other map apps, they agreed to the name change.
00:35:07.480but only in america only for americans elsewhere
00:35:11.740lake ontario still has the same name that it always had before um and i think that that's
00:35:21.860it's not precise as i say it's not a dei thing but seeing as is is this was in the press today
00:35:28.040it's an illustration of how the how of how corporate america can sidle up to the administration
00:35:35.200because they now, President Trump, has worked quite closely
00:35:38.500to ensure he has great personal relationships at the CEO and chairman level.
00:35:56.320And if you think what they've done with Lake America,
00:35:59.060That is, I think, pretty, it illustrates the point pretty well, I think, exactly their attitude will change it in America only.
00:36:12.700So if you go on with an America-based, the America-based, US-based app store, you'll think that this is a universal thing, but it's not.
00:36:22.380It's just what we're doing here for America, elsewhere around the world.
00:36:25.180Where you're not looking, where you're not paying attention, we're just treating you with the same old contempt that we always ever had.
00:36:33.160Look, I know you have gone through some household names here with the research to illustrate exactly how nothing has particularly changed apart from the superficials.
00:36:47.080Why don't you, and these are household names,
00:36:49.980why don't you just sort of brief the war room posse
00:36:53.580on exactly what some of these corporate giants are doing
00:36:57.700when they think that nobody's paying attention?
00:37:41.580And DEI makes you, you know, be competitive with other groups of people, not based on we're all part of Nike, but instead, oh, are you an LGBTQ or are you a female or are you black or are you Asian, right?
00:37:56.620And so it puts people in those categories.
00:37:58.620So Nike is still reporting this is how our company is made up and the type of people that are in our company.
00:38:06.720But then when you start to look at some of these other companies like Cargill, right, you think of Cargill is like, you know, you know, they make clothes for the working man or for the hunter out there. Why are they pushing on these DEI things? And what they're doing is they're changing DEI to inclusion and belonging. They're basically renaming it, but they still have this deep ideology that you should be judging people on these immutable characteristics of who their parents are, not based on the, again, the quality of their character, their ability to do great work or innovate.
00:38:36.380So Cargill is kind of a surprising one or Traeger, right? Many of us have a Traeger grill. We're enjoying making ribs on them tonight. And they are still pushing on a DEI policy. In fact, they took their head of DEI, who was within the organization, and they promoted that person to the head of people in HR, right?
00:38:55.140And so they changed the names and tried to make it sound happy for the current administration, but they have not changed their ideology, right?
00:39:04.500And we talk about Lake of America, when people are trying to, you know, Trump signed a thing that said, an executive order saying DEI is not allowed in the government anymore.
00:39:15.520And so clearly these companies know that it's not allowed, but they have not changed their ideology.
00:39:20.280And so I think one of the big messages, and again, those are just three of the companies. There's a number of companies in this report talking about how they are still doubling down on DEI. They're just trying to use a different name for it. But I think the message for conservatives is we tend to, we as a conservative group of people tend to, you know, fight the battle, work really hard.
00:39:44.700But then when we feel like we've gotten some ground, we've made some headway, all of a sudden we give up and we're like, let's go back to sleep.
00:39:52.040Let's just get back to raising our families and not worrying about it.
00:39:56.340And I think that's the important thing for people to remember.
00:39:58.560Corporate America is still pushing an ideology on our employees that we need to push back against.
00:40:05.380There was one omission from the list of the research that I was analyzing before the show, and that's Budweiser.
00:40:13.400um yeah did um did did did did did they learn their lesson were their hands burnt um
00:40:21.360they're they don't appear to be pushing the dei thing anymore or is that just uh
00:40:27.960they're too subtle what's going on there no actually they did learn their lesson and actually
00:40:33.160budweiser and target which i'll pick on a little bit um both of them were very much in the limelight
00:40:39.360right? Nike didn't get the same kind of pushback that Budweiser and Target. And obviously Budweiser
00:40:44.580and Target kind of got pushed back in different ways. Target was pushing the LGBTQ dolls and
00:40:50.820ridiculous, you know, binders for swimsuits and so on and so forth, trying to, you know,
00:40:55.680indoctrinate our children, which none of us wanted. And so we did as a conservative group,
00:41:00.560did a significant and very effective boycott of Target. And guess what? They learned their
00:41:05.580lesson. Budweiser, same thing. We saw them change. And they are not, based on the research,
00:41:13.460pushing DEI in the same way that they used to. So we're actually encouraged that conservatives can
00:41:18.820make an impact on these companies. Cracker Barrel, another example, the CEO is now gone. The CEO that
00:41:24.400was pushing this kind of let's drift left ideology within Cracker Barrel, that person is now gone.
00:41:30.280And so we can make an impact, but we can't just go to sleep and give up.
00:41:34.560We have to keep pushing on these things, and it will have a long-standing impact for these companies.
00:41:41.440Andrew, stay with us, back with you on this point in just a couple of moments.
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00:44:48.260Back now to Andrew Krapuschets, the CEO of Red Balloon.
00:44:52.700Andrew, when we were planning a show today to bring you on to talk about these things,
00:44:57.000we were discussing whether to play Nina's 99 Red Balloons.
00:45:01.880But I think you're too young. I don't think you were a child of the 80s as I am.
00:45:06.120And we decided against it simply because for anyone who was a child of the 80s, that is pure sort of earworm.
00:45:16.000Once that song gets in the head, it's not getting out.
00:45:18.640And I thought people would be concentrating on that rather than Red Balloon itself.
00:45:24.300All right. So you were pointing out just in the first half of your interview that when conservatives are focused on the issues, they can actually, even with these corporate giants, they can actually affect change.
00:45:43.300And you cited Budweiser with the humiliating collapse of Bud Light.
00:45:52.920And you also mentioned the CEO, I think she was ousted pretty quickly, of Cracker Barrel.
00:45:59.200But when we were chatting before the show started, you said that one of the points you want to make on the show today,
00:46:07.200and it is an extremely important point, not just on holding corporate America to account,
00:46:12.220But across the board as well, is that conservatives shouldn't do what they sometimes do, which is think they're notched up a victory and then they switch off and sort of go and watch the game on TV.
00:46:26.340They need to stay focused on these things.
00:46:29.400Just make that point in your own words, if you wouldn't mind, please.
00:46:39.600It's just telling me about diversity, equity, inclusion.
00:46:43.060And honestly, those are good words in and of themselves, but they've been weaponized.
00:46:47.080Those words have been used as a bludgeoning device against many conservatives to make
00:46:51.320them think a certain way about the world.
00:46:53.500And I would say that most DEI training is a liturgy.
00:46:56.580It's designed to make you think something about yourself, about your coworkers, and
00:47:01.300about the world around you, which is fundamentally Marxist at the end of the day.
00:47:04.700And so for conservatives, we're a go-along, get-along crowd, right?
00:47:08.340we're going to just say, well, DEI training is not that bad. It's not going to have a huge impact
00:47:13.500on this. But I want to give one example of why I believe that is not the case. Here at redballoon.work,
00:47:19.320we believe that freedom in the workplace is a good thing, that America is a good thing. And we
00:47:24.860represent employers and job seekers who are looking for freedom in the workplace. Well,
00:47:30.080we had a single mom write me a little while ago and said, hey, I just got a new job through
00:47:34.360redballoon.work. And after three weeks in the job, one of my two boys says to me, mommy,
00:47:38.720you're not angry anymore. She's like, oh man, why was I angry mommy? And basically they told her
00:47:44.200like, you're happier again. And she realized that the water that she swam in for eight to 10 hours
00:47:49.660a day, this DEI world that she was living in was actually having such an impact on her worldview
00:47:55.360that it was affecting her relationships with her boys. And being in a place where she could
00:48:00.160actually be free actually impacted every other aspect of her life. And so for conservatives,
00:48:06.840we tend to be like, oh, it's not that big a deal. I'll just make this little compromise. I'll just
00:48:10.900sit in the back of the DEI training and not worry about it. But it is a big deal. It is affecting
00:48:16.020you in ways that you don't even realize. And courage begets courage. Bravery begets bravery.
00:48:22.860Nobody wants to be the first one to step out. But as this DEI and this woke ideology starts to
00:48:28.780rear its ugly head in the workplace. Again, I would encourage people don't go for it, right?
00:48:34.280Stand up. You think, well, you know, if the COVID mask mandates came back, I would stand up against
00:48:38.700that. Well, you might, but also stand up against little things like this because lots of little
00:48:43.520compromises turn into very big compromises, particularly in the workplace. And so that's
00:48:47.980my encouragement to conservatives. It's when you make little compromises, it's having more of an
00:48:53.620impact on you than you realize, and you need to stand up for other people. And if you're courageous
00:48:58.380and brave it's going to help everyone else and that's why we're doing it here at red balloon we
00:49:03.180believe that the workplace should be free and people should work for people who aren't going
00:49:07.860to jam a worldview down their throat what did you just say bravery begets courage begets courage
00:49:16.080bravery begets bravery and as steve bannon often says on this show victory begets victory um tell
00:49:22.480me just a little bit in the final minute and a half that we've got you for tell me a bit about
00:49:28.020Red Balloon? Yeah, Red Balloon was founded five years ago. I was the CEO of a large tech company,
00:49:33.600and my board decided that I was a little too conservative and Christian for their liking.
00:49:37.300And so I found myself delightfully unemployed. And I thought, well, if this happened to me,
00:49:40.760it might happen to other Americans. And so we were founded as a place where work is a good thing,
00:49:46.160freedom is a good thing, America is a good thing. And we now have thousands of businesses and
00:49:51.960millions of job seekers who are finding each other. And we're just helping to facilitate that.
00:49:57.500So we do everything from job postings to full cycle recruiting to help businesses find employees who are going to build their culture and not tear it down and help employees find employers who will respect their freedom, allow them to work really hard because we believe that work is a good thing and it brings dignity to individuals.
00:50:17.820But we think it is super important to not have a workplace where a worldview is jammed
00:50:22.840down your throat all the time, but you can actually live your values out loud and be
00:50:42.700And we are representing job seekers who want to show up to an employer, bring a lot of value.
00:50:49.060They believe capitalism is a good thing, believe it or not, and want their employer to make money.
00:50:54.660And so if you want to avoid a bad hire who's going to wreck your culture or take down your business, Red Balloon has, again, full cycle recruiting.
00:51:03.160We also sit down and can help you with any solution you need to build your company with great employees.
00:51:09.840We do nationwide searches and we help everybody from, you know, Daily Wire and Steak and Shake to mom and pops who are hiring their first employee.
00:51:18.280And they want to make sure they don't mess up that first one and get a bad one.
00:51:22.880So very quickly, Andrew, where do people go to learn more about you or if they are in the corporate sector to perhaps engage your services?