00:00:29.320I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.740Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.520If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.700War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:54.700Good evening, Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.
00:00:58.560I know, folks, that you like to say to yourselves that you tune into this show that we do to edify yourselves spiritually.
00:01:06.640But we know that you really come for the scandalous things that go taking place within organized religion, within institutional Christianity.
00:01:15.980And tonight we're not going to disappoint. Let's bring up our usual guests, Frank Walker, Jenny Holland.0.61
00:01:22.260welcome um this evening uh frank i think we're starting with you tonight this is um we've got
00:01:30.140this story we've been covering this quite a lot on the war we had the preview uh last week with
00:01:37.320colin mcmahon live from germany to preview the the local state elections in germany that took
00:01:48.260place at the weekend we're trying to get colin back on this week to break it down with us um
00:01:53.460and it has been nothing short of a of a it's an overused journalistic cliche but it has been
00:02:01.220nothing short in germany of a of a than um than a than a political earthquake there the election
00:02:08.360that took place in saxony anhalt one of the the east german states i think saw returns that hadn't
00:02:16.700been seen for decades. And it's quite remarkable, especially when one considers that in
00:02:23.760Germany, there is proportional representation, they don't have like a straight up
00:02:28.280two party system. And the votes normally sort of spread around, like parties will get around 30%,
00:02:36.680perhaps a few percent more depending on how the tide is flowing on the day. But the AFD,
00:02:44.780the Alternative for Deutschland, clocked up 43% on Sunday,
00:02:52.340which is at 43.8%, excuse me, just slightly around 44%.
00:02:56.460But then I think 44% is what Margaret Thatcher got in the general election in 1983.
00:05:37.740Well, Heiner Wilmer, the head of the most important German bishop, said,
00:05:43.500our grave fears have become a reality at this AFD victory.
00:05:49.220And I don't think it's been maybe a year or two ago that they said,
00:05:53.380catholic cannot vote for the afd and they try they've tried very hard you know ben to make it
00:05:59.340almost illegal to vote for the afd and they've also said that you you can't have somebody who
00:06:05.280is part of the afd party or affiliated with be also an employee of the catholic church so no they
00:06:11.940they don't like the sheepy smelling people at all they don't like the peoples in fact they're
00:06:16.480champagne communists is what they are they pretend to care about people and like like pope francis
00:06:21.840Bergoglio said, when you see the poor in church, you should kneel down before the poor. So they
00:06:29.240issued a statement, Heiner and the bishops, that they reminded everybody to make sure that they
00:06:35.800uphold the dignity of all people. Because whenever they say that, when they saw the vote, they said,
00:06:42.180make sure you uphold the dignity. It's always something bad. And I noticed that they fell
00:06:47.120short of the 42 seats. And at the Gateway Pundit, they're saying that it was a fraud.
00:06:52.060Late mail-in ballot counts kept them from having a majority or enough of a win so that they can
00:06:57.960actually have a ruling. There's just like one seat short in the House. It's so hard to get a
00:07:05.880ruling majority. And the bishops have done everything they can to stop it. And then there's
00:07:10.340a local bishop, Gerhard Fage, who a glory to be characterized as a little man with a beard like
00:07:17.720Karl Marx. And if you look at his picture, he doesn't even wear a cross. He just wears it like
00:07:25.440a business suit. And he made a statement too. Mainly, he's worried about, he said, we might
00:07:30.960be out of funds if this happens. Because what they want to do is they want to take a look at how
00:07:36.640there's there's a big 40 million dollars goes to this poor diocese and uh that they get just
00:07:42.180from the the things that they stole from the church years ago and they want to have more
00:07:46.860transparency they want the church to be audited and to prove what they do with the money that they
00:07:52.300get so this little this little Karl Marx bishop uh uh Gerhard he's like we're going to go broke
00:07:59.780if you do that to us so obviously I think they have an idea that money isn't going to the right
00:08:04.280place i have a feeling if they didn't get that money their teaching would improve
00:08:07.460um i want to flag up for for uh the warring posse something that frank walker just
00:08:17.140mentioned in his analysis of this and it's absolutely true back in 2024 the uh the the
00:08:24.480german bishops unanimously well it's nice to see them doing something unanimously for a change
00:08:29.940they um they put out the statement all of the bishops they they were i underline this they
00:08:36.140were unanimous in this they said that catholics could not vote for the afd as it had undergone
00:08:42.260and i quote several waves of radicalization and was now dominated by a racial nationalist attitude
00:08:52.460absolute humbug um it's clear that that it is it it's absolutely clear that um that the one hopes
00:09:01.520that the afd realizes the um the uh the huge transfers of many which you're just describing
00:09:09.100taking place and will actually demand accountability it's important to remember and frank you do hit
00:09:14.760this on the show from time to time but let's not forget that every person in germany who is
00:09:21.380officially registered as a catholic pays an income tax it's direct it's confiscated at source
00:09:30.760um and that goes to the church and this is equivalent of between eight and nine percent
00:09:36.400of their income tax liability and if you withdraw yourself from the church tax register you're then
00:09:43.860denied the sacraments that the consequences of this is that the the the catholic german bishops
00:09:52.140have one of the wealthiest um bishops conferences in the world um but it's also that's for consequence
00:10:01.620number one consequence number two is that it's insulated the the security of of getting these
00:10:08.180hundreds of millions of taxpayers euros each year has insulated the bishops to um to their
00:10:16.800spiritual welfare that's the second consequence of this all right and the third opinion please go on
00:10:25.180go on no and they want them to collect that church tax themselves and we don't want the government
00:10:30.200collecting anymore you bishops you collect it which put them on the spot you know they don't
00:10:34.940want them to do that. And, you know, Donald Tusk, the EU ruler that they foisted on Poland, he said
00:10:39.960only idiots and traitors can rejoice over the triumph. Talk about not smelling like the sheep1.00
00:10:44.940and talk about not being about peace. You know, Leo, even just yesterday, said we need to paint
00:10:50.360our heads with the idea of peace because of our Lord. But the head of the IFD, Alice Wiedel,
00:10:58.600said restoration of economic relations with Moscow is part of her policy. She's embarrassed
00:11:03.580that they have tanks against Russia after World War II, and they want to lift the sanctions and
00:11:10.700reduce the cessation of military aid to Ukraine. And they want to just totally get back with Russia
00:11:20.300again because it's killing their economy that they have this war going on in Ukraine, and they don't
00:11:25.040want peace. But meanwhile, the Vatican constantly is promoting the corrupt bishops in Ukraine
00:11:31.420that are continuing to go young men to war to die after millions have already died so
00:11:38.580this party even though even though it's it's a secular party they have they it has pro-christian
00:11:44.760values because they've driven in germany they've driven all of the all the real actual faithful
00:11:50.820christians out of the church and so the people that are the remaining that are paying the church
00:11:55.320tax and that are there they're really not that conservative not really very pro-christian
00:11:59.600and so you know it's just amazing how uncatholic the politics is in in germany and how catholic
00:12:09.420this party is and now that now are we if you are you excommunicated are you in mortal sin
00:12:15.960because this affects everything you know in the leo church if you actually are a faithful catholic
00:12:21.300you can get yourself excommunicated and so i you're seeing again in another form in germany
00:12:27.020You actually do something pro-Christian, pro-justice, you want to have accountability, you want to have peace, you want all these things that they say that they are Christian and that they stand for, and they're going to tell you that you're in mortal sin.
00:12:42.820They're going to tell you you're not a part of the Catholic Church at all.
00:12:45.320But Frank, you're absolutely right. It's scandalous. And that's why, as we say occasionally on this show, it's these people themselves, the highling bishops that aren't part of the church, not the faithful, not the laity.
00:12:59.020I just want to say, just for the sake of correctness, as scandalous as this situation is, it's not specifically here on this, it's not specifically involving the Catholic Church.
00:13:17.280This is an ecumenical venture. The statement that they put out was with, Frank, as he was saying, the chairman of the German Catholic Bishops Conference.
00:13:26.160But also it was jointly signed with Bishop Kirsten Fiers, the leader of the Protestant church in Germany, and also Reverend Christopher Easthill, chairman of the Association of Christian Churches in Germany.
00:13:44.200um and i just want to point out seeing as they've put seeing as they put in their bishop
00:13:48.760kirsten fears i just want to say that first time on the war room i want to say that fdr was right
00:13:56.180all we have to fear is fears herself um okay sorry no jokes i'm no good at doing these puns
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00:17:25.480the scandals are coming in thick and fast throughout christendom we're moving from germany
00:17:32.720now over to london one of the iconic one of the most famous buildings in london in the uk
00:17:39.700saint paul's cathedral um built according to designs by sir christopher wren that had been
00:17:47.280prepared before the great fire of London and I saw last week that was actually the anniversary I
00:17:52.100think of when the fire was finally extinguished in uh is it 1667 or something like that um and
00:18:01.660he Christopher Wren great architect that he that that he was had all these plans ready for the
00:18:07.200rebuilding of London his great cathedral um now has a new use because pretty clear that no one in
00:18:16.400the church of england's interested in going there to play um so they found a new use for a new
00:18:21.160designation fit and jenny holland your cynical beady eyes have been following this one um all
00:18:30.000week share us your analysis then with this yeah so it seems that saint paul's cathedral as you said
00:18:39.220the iconic uh domed structure that um has been catering to the spiritual needs of londoners for
00:18:45.640centuries um is going into a collab they're doing a collab house with a place called fabric which
00:18:53.880apparently is a discotheque or as they call them these days nightclub about which i know very little
00:19:00.760because i know even though i look and sound very hip and young i'm actually a middle-aged
00:19:05.840soccer mom and i'm not really in the details on fabric the nightclub but they are doing a four
00:19:12.160year collaboration with St. Paul's in which they will host, St. Paul's will host gigs,
00:19:20.920musical gigs. It's not clear exactly. So the first show is scheduled for the end of October
00:19:26.820and the musical act has not been announced yet. So we'll have to come back to this when they
00:19:33.340announce whatever abomination they're going to put on. And it's similar to an event that was run
00:19:40.540Canterbury in 2024, I believe. It was called Rave in the Knave. And of course, last year,
00:19:47.200we mentioned on this show, Canterbury also hosted a graffiti art, a graffiti takeover,
00:19:55.300whereby they, like little children, they stuck these sophomoric stickers with graffiti kind of
00:20:02.100font with deep things like, you know, do we all have a soul? So yeah, it's just the latest
00:20:08.600embarrassment from the Church of England hierarchy, which obviously has quite literally
00:20:13.380given up the ghost. And it's interesting because in recent weeks and months, there's been a sort
00:20:18.540of series, a flutter of stories in the British press, mostly about how sad and abandoned the
00:20:26.000Church of England parishes are. There was a piece in, I think, the spring in The Critic about the
00:20:33.520The Church of England website has a page where you can go to property shop, where you can go and find abandoned churches or rundown churches to purchase, some for as little as £50,000.
00:20:45.400So the people out in the hinterlands are basically going begging.
00:22:42.780They said they were looking for truth.
00:22:45.000They said that they were looking for meaning.
00:22:48.280The report, interestingly, says, yeah, interestingly, the report refers to some of them as autodidacts, which is code for these are people who are learning themselves because the church hierarchy is failing in their job to bring the gospel out into the people who need it most, young people who are lost.0.86
00:23:07.180We don't want boomers raving in the Church of St. Paul's. Nobody wants that. Even the ravers don't really want that. If you look on the comments on their Instagram, which I did just before coming on air, they were largely not positive. I think they're marketing to the wrong people.0.92
00:23:24.980So they're pissing off the traditionalists, but they're not going to bring in the, you know, the Palestinian activists and the LGBTQ activists.
00:23:34.000They're not going to win those people over. They're slavishly trying to win them over. They will fail.
00:23:38.760um i prompted by your good self jenny i have been i've kept my own cynical beady eyes on
00:23:47.220social media to follow this one a little bit um and it has generated quite a lot of of heat
00:23:55.560if not so much light um and i can't help but think a lot of the people who like to position
00:24:03.480themselves as trad or trad-adjacent, especially in the Catholic sphere, are somewhat missing
00:31:46.420Yes, well, just following on about your point about the liturgy and contrasting it with this sort of abomination at St. Paul's,
00:31:53.820I did read a fascinating article by a brilliant young scholar and young buck back in 2015 by the name of Benjamin Hardwell, who said that if you want to conserve tradition, the liturgy is the greatest treasure, the Latin mass liturgy, I need to clarify, is the greatest sort of human patrimony treasure that we have in the West.
00:32:18.440And, you know, I'm not a I'm not a mass attendee, but I will say this, that it's very the debacle in St. Paul's The Rave and the Knave is extremely illustrative of why the Latin mass is so important and so enduring.
00:32:36.660You can take it with you, okay? It doesn't have to revolve around the bricks and mortar of these grand historic buildings. As much as they should be treasured and they should be treated with respect and they should be upheld, the Latin mass can be, and you guys please correct me if I'm wrong, it can be carried out in a hedge if it needs to be.
00:33:01.040And this is the kind of thing that is drawing new people to the church.
00:33:10.140Young people, young people are being drawn to the Catholic Church by the Latin Mass.
00:33:15.900So your point from way back when, when you were just a spring chicken in this game, Ben, is really being borne out more and more every day, but especially with this story.
00:33:26.120Well, some people would no doubt push back, Jenny, and say that I'm still a chicken now.
00:33:34.660Very kind of you, by the way, to have gone to the effort to find that article, that old article, Jenny, bring it on to the show.
00:33:45.020Look, OK, so the point in that article from 2015, which was quite some time ago, is this.
00:33:52.960We go on and you get people who come out and they'll rally in favour of old buildings, basically, or anything that's antique, you know, quite rightly.
00:34:07.240And the world was outraged when the Taliban blew up the two statues, the two pagan statues that were like nearly 2000 years old, because the world is attracted to the value inherent in antiquity, whether it has any over and above whatever value it might have artistically, there's a value for the component of antiquity.
00:34:34.300And yet, the thing that I would suggest is, from a Catholic perspective, worth more than anything else whatsoever, and that's the Mass. The parts of the Catholic Mass, the old Mass, that literally go back 1,700 years.
00:34:53.100Now, if the so-called Catholic hierarchy had demolished a Catholic church or a basilica that was 1,700 years old, they'd gone and the Taliban put the dynamite under it and blew it to smithereens, the world would absolutely be outraged and disgusted.0.58
00:35:14.260And when he did it to the Mass, the words of the Mass, that it changed from one moment to the next.0.68
00:35:21.120In the words that Benedict himself said, Ratzinger, excuse me, himself said, turning the Novus Order, introducing the Novus Order liturgy, which he called a banal on-the-spot product, the first time he was ever right about something.
00:35:36.380Of course, there was no actual carry-through when he became Pope after that.
00:35:42.680But he was right in the aesthetic analysis part of it.
00:38:43.040um they found that it was psychologically unsafe for the mother to take her daughter to um or their
00:38:52.460daughter to the calvary chapel over in uh the portland region that is and i i'm not a regional
00:39:01.860in this i had i had the same thought on this on reading this and i thought surely there are there
00:39:06.940There are sort of constitutional implications here for a court to the Supreme Court to intervene and effectively determine which religion someone is allowed to follow.
00:39:24.980But those concerns were dismissed. They were raised by the mother's lawyers and they were dismissed.
00:39:32.280um frank walker tell us tell us more about this story because it is pretty horrific the elements
00:39:41.120of this are pretty horrific and i'll tell you why because this is the sort of thing that could be
00:39:46.140used as a precedent in the future and built on yeah it's a little shaky legally it sounds to me
00:39:52.140but it's one of those beginning things one of those leading things they said that he's allowed
00:39:56.820to prevent the daughter from going to the church because it's psychologically unsafe she's getting
00:40:01.360panic attacks since he's fixated on the rapture, and the pastor in the church openly prayed for
00:40:06.920them. It reminds me of how they took all the prayer out of the schools. It's the same kind
00:40:12.240of force. Just because I'm a psychologist, what I say goes, and the religion part doesn't really
00:40:18.660matter. So the father's better suited, and the opposite side's arguing that they have a right
00:40:25.880to their freedom of religion so they're intruding inside the lies you know it used to be with a
00:40:31.480divorce you had the time that you with your child and you had the custody on that of that time now
00:40:38.280they're getting in the middle of what you do with them at the time because some psychologist says
00:40:43.620that it's harmful he's saying that her religion is making me look bad and he I you know he doesn't
00:40:49.680really sound like he has a religion it sounds like his religion is is no religion he says it
00:40:54.520they say that in the rapture that I won't go, I won't go up to heaven and I'm going to be down
00:41:00.020here. That's mean. That turns me into an enemy. They're making my daughter, you know, not like
00:41:04.680me, but everybody knows that in cases of divorces, the, the, the, you get it, the child gets a bad
00:41:10.000ideas about both sides. They hear bad things about their parents from the other parent all the time.
00:41:15.060So it's really intruding in this space. And it's saying, well, since you can't decide,
00:41:20.340you're not going to have anything he can decide because he's really the nothing he's he's do
00:41:24.980nothing he's like in the church oh you can't decide we have people that different religions0.68
00:41:28.600in the school and it no nobody can agree so we'll have no religion so this child's going to have
00:41:34.320no religion per the father uh and i i just think it's it's a it's getting in the middle of marriage
00:41:42.820and that's the whole point of divorce and the no-fault divorce culture is to is to make sure
00:41:47.620that you know what are they going to do now police every word that she says about him
00:41:51.200you know everything everywhere that she goes frank walker this is so concerning everybody
00:41:57.660every christian of whatever denomination should be concerned by this ruling out of the supreme
00:42:05.560court of maine um and i'm sure this will go to the u.s supreme court it can't not do um um and
00:42:13.000Because whatever religion you follow, this is a precedent that can be used
00:42:18.760and it can be used and probably will be used against traditionist Catholics
00:42:22.820in a similar situation, and the court will rule that the parent
00:42:28.320can't take the child to a traditional mass.
00:42:31.000I mean, the potentials for abuse are horrible.
00:42:35.800Now, it does appear, having looked somewhat at this judgment,
00:42:39.960is that they're trying, they're bending over themselves backwards to try to say, well, we're
00:42:43.860not intervening here in this. This is a parent's choice. We're just saying that one of the parents
00:42:50.420is better determined to make this choice for the spiritual education, the religious education of
00:42:55.500his children than the other parent. To me, that's tantamount to the same thing as the court ruling
00:43:00.620as to the religious education of the child. Now, look, I don't know what the solution to this is
00:43:07.280When two parents divorce and they have a difference in ideas and priorities when it comes to the religious formation of the kids, I don't know what the correct – like King Solomon here, I really – I'm not going to intervene here.
00:43:25.440I don't know what the authentic thing to do is, but I don't think it's something that should be left to courts of law.
00:43:37.040That I would resist. Possibly both parents, until the child reaches adulthood, both parents should have, as it were, a joint spiritual custody.
00:43:47.440One Sunday in one church, one Sunday in another church. I don't know.
00:43:51.240And then at adulthood, the child can decide for themselves which one to follow.
00:43:56.340Look, we are running out of time. But that is, I thought, quite a horrific story and extension of state power.
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00:46:28.340so we've got like five minutes left now and our last story of the day jenny this is one right i
00:46:36.200saw this one this one this this was a story made for you some dominican uh sisters
00:46:43.520um in a convent have produced a podcast which has phenomenal traction phenomenal engagement
00:46:56.040um and what i found about found out about this interest wasn't so much the the press reports on
00:47:03.120it was that was this one here was that it was in the atlantic of or magazine magazines and bless
00:47:11.080them um i don't think the guy who wrote the article put together has the deepest relationship
00:47:18.780with the catholic church and i say that because he seemed to think that yeah the giveaway to you
00:47:25.280You know, they always make these things, you know, these little slip ups or revelations that indicate just how much familiarity they have.
00:47:34.200He puts the reference to the fact that they refer to this convent as the mother house in in scare quotes.
00:47:42.260It's folks, it's standard nomenclature.
00:47:44.560If you have a convent or a monastery or a friary that sets up other houses, then the one that sets those other houses up is the mother house.
00:47:56.900And that's exactly the same terminology in Italian, the Casa Madre.
00:48:02.540So it's not an indication that this cult-like characteristic is straight up legit.
00:48:10.820um but apart from so that just gives an indication i think of other of the guy they dispatched to
00:48:16.800write the article but that aside it's still a pretty good article jenny um what were your main
00:48:21.780pulls from it yeah it's a very sweet story um and i hadn't actually come across my radar so i was
00:48:30.000glad to see it um now yeah so a uh a group of dominican nuns have started a podcast how very
00:48:37.5402026 of them um and not only did they start a podcast but they're also taking tiktok by storm0.95
00:48:45.100um and tiktok in case you are not aware is normally something of a like a hive of scum
00:48:51.180and villainy so on tiktok they have amassed 280 000 followers since joining in february which
00:48:58.820is when they started their podcast and their podcast is uh revolves around is a weekly show
00:49:04.800that revolves around convent life and scriptures and lives of the saints.
00:49:12.240Now, I've never seen, I've never listened to the podcast.
00:49:15.220I cannot vouch for its quality or anything like that.
00:49:19.040But what the article says is that viewers, according to comments,
00:49:24.620are saying that the nuns seem so relaxed and they laugh so easily
00:49:32.820And they seem so at peace and they they have regulated nervous systems, which is a very contemporary fixation that we see a lot of on social media.
00:49:43.320And I have to tell you, these are these do not sound like the Dominican nuns that taught my mother in the 1950s and drove her into the arms of Trotsky, by the way.
00:49:53.360So this is like a different a different type of Dominican.0.73
00:49:56.940um but yeah it's a lovely charming story that once again shows the thirst for the truth that
00:50:05.040is out there thirst for um an older non-digital even though these are digital platforms lifestyle
00:50:13.320that people are hugely hugely drawn to okay jen um firstly firstly because we've got like a minute
00:50:21.240left you didn't think you're gonna get a hive of scum and villainy you didn't think you're gonna
00:50:26.260get that obi-wan kenobi quote in here did you without me noticing it all right okay folks but0.95
00:50:32.640i've been to stay with with some dominican sisters before um in the uk up in the north of england
00:50:37.74015 20 years ago they were absolutely brilliant um in the time allotted to me i will say this i will
00:50:44.520say this to catholics i will say this to our protestant brothers and sisters as well if you
00:50:49.940have never been spent a week in a convent or in a monastery do it it's a life experience you won't
00:50:56.240regret it you'll have a lot of psychological spiritual pressure beforehand not to do it
00:51:02.200the moment you set foot through the door and into the chapel that will just melt away
00:51:06.260um i i absolutely repeat that if you've never been done a retreat a formal retreat or otherwise
00:51:13.620just going to spend a week just sort of reading through the daily office transformative transformative
00:51:19.260if it changes lives very quickly jenny where do people go on social media to keep up with your
00:51:24.980analysis and your ob1 kenobi um i can't help myself yeah so i have weekly essays and videos
00:51:33.720uh videos are on youtube at saving culture from itself and my essays are at jenny e holland dot
00:51:41.460substack.com frank walker 10 seconds and in 212 is the as the website you can see
00:51:49.160the daily update there on the right column and also at glory tv and at rumble and twitter is
00:51:54.240canon 212 spelled out folks that's all we've got time for thanks to my guests thanks to spence at
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