Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 2006： The Pope Undergoes Surgery For Lung Cancer

00:00:00.000 We have some breaking news coming in right now from the Vatican.

00:00:13.480 It's a significant development on the health of the Pope, Pope Leo.

00:00:18.720 CNN Vatican correspondent Christopher Lamb joins us live now from the Vatican.

00:00:22.760 Christopher, what do we know?

00:00:23.560 well Casey we've just been told by the Vatican that the surgery that removed a growth on Pope

00:00:34.560 Leo's lung has been tested and is found to be cancerous the Pope had an operation that lasted

00:00:42.300 about 90 minutes and the Vatican saying that at the tests that were done afterwards after part of

00:00:51.800 his lung was removed, shown that this is cancer. We don't have any more details about what

00:01:00.800 treatment might be needed, what's next, but there are going to be further tests to determine

00:01:08.620 the next steps. Now, obviously, this is alarming news here for people in the Vatican and across

00:01:17.720 the Catholic Church. Pope Leo had announced to the world that he was coming in to the

00:01:23.120 Gemelli Hospital for surgery. He had said that there was a nodule on his lung that needed

00:01:29.000 to be removed, that it had been detected early but was localised. And in the statement they

00:01:35.820 do say, the statement written by doctors who treated Leo but released by the Vatican, the

00:01:41.920 The statement says that the diagnosis of this cancer was as suspected from pre-operative tests.

00:01:52.720 So this was something that the doctors were suspecting when they decided to operate on the Pope.

00:02:00.840 But nevertheless, this is alarming and shocking.

00:02:04.460 The Pope is 71 years old.

00:02:07.460 He generally seemed to be in good health, keeps up an active lifestyle.

00:02:12.600 The announcement that he made to the crowd in St. Peter's that he was having this operation

00:02:17.380 caused a lot of shock and alarm in the Vatican.

00:02:23.420 And now this news, obviously, increasing that sense of uncertainty and anxiety.

00:02:30.580 The Pope does have a packed schedule.

00:02:34.520 He is due to undertake a very demanding trip to Latin America in early November,

00:02:40.760 including to Peru, a country he knows so well as having spent so many years there as a missionary and a bishop.

00:02:46.400 He had said on that Sunday audience, that Sunday Angelus, when he announced the news,

00:02:53.140 that he planned to still take on that trip, but obviously a lot of questions about it.

00:02:58.580 He's just had this lung surgery.

00:03:00.180 His agenda in Peru would take him into high altitude.

00:03:04.360 So a lot of uncertainty here now following this news from the Vatican about the results of the Pope's surgery.

00:03:15.080 Well, and Christopher, this, of course, was quite a lengthy surgery, seven hours, according to the statement from the Vatican.

00:03:25.680 Can you talk a little bit about the hospital where he's treated?

00:03:29.500 They've apparently treated other popes there in the past.

00:03:33.540 And, I mean, as you point out, 71, I mean, we've seen pontiffs serve for into later years than that.

00:03:43.260 And as you point out, he had seemed to be in good health.

00:03:47.520 And, of course, for those of us here on this side of the Atlantic, he was hailed as the first American pope.

00:03:55.340 Really a surprise when, of course, he was elected.

00:03:59.500 Yes, that's right. I mean, he was elected at the relatively young age for a Pope of 69.

00:04:09.500 He's now 71. We've had in the run up to that conclave that elected him Pope Francis in

00:04:18.500 the hospital, the Gemelli, for a number of weeks. He was in there in the hospital with

00:04:25.500 lung problems too. He had pneumonia and he of course as a young man Pope Francis had had part

00:04:31.600 of his lung removed so he'd had those health problems for Pope Francis and there was a feeling

00:04:37.720 that Pope Leo the first American Pope was seen to be in very good shape. I should say though that

00:04:47.420 the surgery or the Pope was in the operating room for approximately three hours and the surgery

00:04:54.640 lasted around 90 minutes. I also did speak to a lung expert earlier in the week who did

00:05:04.280 believe or suspected that it could be cancer, but he did say that the outcomes for this

00:05:12.880 kind of surgery, I mean this kind of removal of a nodule that is cancerous, the outcomes

00:05:20.300 are pretty good so i think there is also uh reason to be hopeful um despite this obviously very uh

00:05:28.620 concerning news and i think you know we're we're expecting the pope to spend the next week in

00:05:35.500 hospital uh and he has cancelled so neil uh you know i talked to harnwell just this whole thing

00:05:43.660 and the word around uh rome is they knew something when they went and did this at first but i guess

00:05:48.300 they concluded. Your thoughts, Neil McCabe. Well, immediately I was thinking about Ruth

00:05:56.900 Bader Ginsburg in 2018 had two nodules removed from her left lung. She later was felled by

00:06:07.540 metastasized pancreatic cancer. And so I'm not saying it's directly the same, but when you have

00:06:15.040 somebody that important uh who you know certainly a pope is more important than a supreme court

00:06:20.300 justice but certainly with someone that who's who's passing would create uh you know this

00:06:26.560 you know cascade of events right uh bit of a shock uh the probe is 71 you know it was a six

00:06:34.320 supposedly or we've been told it's a successful surgery and you know but it was malignant the

00:06:41.240 doctors did say it was malignant, and so they removed that lower left lung, and it'll take

00:06:48.260 him about a week to recover. He was, as we heard in the cold open, it was about three hours in the

00:06:54.240 operating room, but it was only about 90 minutes of the operation, and the operation was done

00:06:59.480 with small incisions into the chest and sort of one of those, you know, video, video, you know,

00:07:08.100 aided surgeries where the surgeon were actually, we're making the cuts and things, uh, you know,

00:07:13.740 it wasn't like the old days where you take big sear, you know, scissors and cut open the ribcage.

00:07:18.880 And so, so the Pope was getting the most modern medical attention as you'd expect. Uh, there's

00:07:25.220 going to be a mass for his recovery in the morning at St. Peter's at 10 AM. Obviously there are masses

00:07:32.100 around the world in Peru and Chicago, especially. Uh, but as you know, as you can imagine something

00:07:39.480 like this sort of stirs things up in the Vatican, you know, uh, Pope Benedict retired when he was

00:07:45.680 85. And so that's 14 years, uh, that, you know, and then he lived beyond that, uh, 14 years

00:07:52.960 difference from the Pope being 71. But a lot of times just to fill this thing out in a conclave,

00:07:59.720 when you go with an older man, what it means is the different factions haven't really settled.

00:08:05.400 And so when Pope Leo XIV, when he was selected as pope, the word was that the conservatives and

00:08:13.460 the moderates had sort of formed a coalition against the more modernist or liberal elements.

00:08:20.240 And when you go with an older pope, it's because things aren't settled, right? If there was a

00:08:25.500 dominant faction in that conclave, they would have gone with a younger man, Steve.

00:08:29.720 Yeah. Neil, thanks. We'll get an update tomorrow. Of course, Harnwell will be on tomorrow night to lay it all out, all the inside baseball.

00:08:37.840 Real quickly, we have Michigan up. Abdul's gone out of his way in all of his MSNBC and meet the press interviews to challenge the president for going to Michigan.

00:08:47.640 On that map that he showed us earlier, has he logged in for Michigan yet, sir, for a visit?

00:08:53.840 uh it's rumor it hasn't been announced yet but i would fully expect that to be

00:09:00.880 on the travel plan along with iowa and i really believe that if he's needed in south carolina

00:09:07.400 he'll show up there too oh yeah no doubt okay neil mccabe where social media where do people

00:09:12.820 get you until tomorrow neil you can find me on all the socials at reporter mccabe my columns

00:09:19.800 are at the South Shore Press. And tonight I'll be hosting the Trump Tuesday Space on X. Thank you,

00:09:25.980 sir. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Let's go back to Michigan. Ronald Armstrong, you've actually

00:09:31.880 got a couple of charts you want to put up about how you think this thing is rolling out right now

00:09:36.220 and some mathematics we can look at. And I know this comes from this tremendous grassroots effort

00:09:41.760 you guys are putting in to make sure we get everybody to the polls and particularly lower

00:09:47.100 propensity voters and maybe even some true Trump voters who have just are very discouraged by some

00:09:53.380 of the policies, particularly the war and other things that they're pretty adamantly opposed to.

00:09:58.600 Can you walk us through it, sir? I will. I want to give some credit where credit is due here. And

00:10:03.020 I really looked at it this last cycle. A Sentinel Action Fund who focused on Senate races around the

00:10:08.760 country raised $40 to $50 million in the 2024 cycle. They focused on Pennsylvania, Ohio, and

00:10:14.720 Montana. If not only did we win all those Senate races, but they were all incredibly close. We got

00:10:21.260 a little bit of money for Rogers, but not much because the polling looks so bad. And now we know

00:10:26.020 not to trust it so much, but they are all in with over $18 million being spent. But the important

00:10:31.260 thing is it's not being spent in bad television ads, but instead it's being spent on the ground.

00:10:35.680 They've knocked almost 600,000 doors. They're focusing on 1,300,000 low propensity voters in

00:10:41.740 Michigan. They've sent over 8 million text messages, 5 million pieces of mail. They have

00:10:47.880 500 people, many of which are paid people on the ground in these districts. They're focused also

00:10:53.240 on the congressional districts because rising tide lifts all boats. But what you're seeing in

00:10:58.400 the early returns, unlike 2022, is you are seeing in that graphic that we are almost equal or even

00:11:05.460 with the turnout. And another graph that you had shared as well shows that there is an increase in

00:11:12.040 both strong Republican counties and leaning Republican counties. Their turnout is higher

00:11:17.500 than it was in the last cycle in 2022. And the Democrats' percentage is down by 2%, by 1%,

00:11:25.400 which means they are depressed. Now, they were depressed voters in 24 as well, meaning they did

00:11:30.500 not have the energy or they didn't have the corruption. We know it's both. What I'm thinking

00:11:35.380 we're seeing here, though, is a better organized grassroots led effort. And it's not just it's

00:11:40.280 sentinel action and what it is they're doing. It also is America First Works, who also is on the

00:11:46.180 ground in these congressional districts, which I think is making a difference. We're seeing

00:11:51.080 Turning Point Faith, who held a pastoral summit three weeks ago to get pastors in specifically

00:11:56.280 to share with them the importance of churches to get themselves on board and get their congregations

00:12:02.520 out to vote and get them engaged and involved. But that really leads me to one area I'd really

00:12:06.700 like to share with you, Steve, and that is that we, first of all, at Stand Up Michigan,

00:12:11.920 we have three pillars. It's the care, to inform, and to activate. And that is, first of all,

00:12:16.860 to have and identify the people where they are, the struggles that they know exist, to provide

00:12:21.700 them hope and inspiration for a better path for them and for their children. The consultant

00:12:25.960 class is the same every cycle. They treat us just as voters. They don't really care about the

00:12:30.620 grassroots. They don't want to hear from us. They are the reason that we have the problems that we

00:12:35.520 have because the messaging is bad. They offer, of course, lower taxes, affordable health care,

00:12:41.260 and creating jobs. And do you know what the people of Michigan are screaming? They're screaming,

00:12:45.480 we have jobs. My wife has a job. I have a job. The problem is we're not making ends meet and 1.00

00:12:51.720 everything is too expensive. They won, of course, because they hear legacy media blame the war and

00:12:56.560 blame other things, because we honestly haven't been enough of honest with them about the fact

00:13:02.080 that $7 trillion spent during the COVID crisis has caused these interest rates to go up, has caused

00:13:07.480 the inflation, which makes our dollar not go as far as it went before. And we need to do a better

00:13:12.480 job of conveying directly to the people the hole that was dug for us and what it's going to take

00:13:17.240 to get out. But I do believe that it is beginning to resonate because these on-the-ground grassroots

00:13:22.120 efforts are doing just that. And we've got to do that both now, but we've also got to do that

00:13:26.620 after the election and ongoing. The left understands, Steve, and this is what we see

00:13:32.360 with them. They are relationally organizing with their people year-round, and voting is a byproduct.

00:13:37.940 It is not an action that's been meant to be taken and get everybody activated over a six-week

00:13:43.500 period of time every two years. Instead, they are connecting with them regularly on the issue that

00:13:49.020 matters most with them and getting them engaged and operated. I'm not saying that's a GOP effort

00:13:53.960 at a state level because we don't have an active state party. I'm not saying it's an RNC effort

00:13:58.320 because we know we can't depend on them for everything or anything. I believe that it is a

00:14:02.400 grassroots effort, but we need funding for those grassroots efforts, and we need it to come from

00:14:07.660 people even like America PAC. We need to fund grassroots efforts on the ground connecting with

00:14:12.320 people at a micro level all year round. And if we do that over the next several cycles, we can not

00:14:17.720 only turn Michigan, we can sustain places like Iowa, but we can also get Arizona, Nevada, and

00:14:24.080 others on board to where we can create what we need to, to not only win this cycle, but to carry

00:14:29.660 on in the future cycles and generations. I want to go back for a second, go back, hit rewind,

00:14:37.120 and talk about, I've seen this throughout the country,

00:14:41.000 saw it particularly in Texas.

00:14:43.700 The DSA in the Working Family Party,

00:14:49.040 their policies are obviously very extreme.

00:14:52.500 But I want you to hit, they look at politics very differently.

00:14:56.820 That's why I told Politico six months ago

00:14:59.700 when they had one in, they started to actually move in Texas.

00:15:02.780 I said, the old politics, which you just nailed,

00:15:05.880 It's to come back every cycle and say, you know, tax cuts, forever wars, you know, on and on the same playbook as you call it, the bad TV ads, and just do it in a concentrated period like the run up after Labor Day.

00:15:20.620 They have a very different focus here.

00:15:23.740 Talk to me about that relationship.

00:15:25.280 They look at the voting as a kind of side product of what they're doing and building a relationship with these people on college campuses.

00:15:34.440 and I've seen it around. It is working, and we're going to have to deal with it. Walk me through

00:15:38.740 how they look at the world and what type of impact it's having in states like Michigan.

00:15:44.120 Well, first of all, I want you to understand that they are relating to people. People identify with

00:15:52.000 them. Our political parties only identify them as voters. They do not identify them as people.

00:15:59.060 They don't think about them as people who have struggles and whatever.

00:16:03.380 And what we need to do a better job of is helping them understand why we're in the situation we're in.

00:16:09.260 20 million illegal immigrants entered our country over the past eight years. 0.99

00:16:15.460 And those people have used, basically, have taken, they've used our tax dollars, your tax dollars, 1.00

00:16:22.080 and have subsidized everything from taking American jobs to everything from health care

00:16:28.780 to housing. Why is rent so high? Why can we not afford a mortgage? It's because they have been

00:16:35.500 subsidized by the taxpayers to pay for all of these things. And believe me, the black community,

00:16:41.480 the Hispanic community, and the working class Americans understand this. The Green New Deal

00:16:47.020 has taken and forced at one time the automotive industry. It's the reason that they came home to 0.99

00:16:52.760 President Trump in 24. It is because these people recognized that moving to all electric vehicles

00:16:59.740 was not something not only the Americans wanted, but it wasn't great for their jobs. And we have

00:17:04.820 got to do and continue to do a better job of relating to them as workers. They have a lot of

00:17:10.340 times been third generation, 30 years each working in the automotive field or those associated with 0.98

00:17:15.520 it and literally we were saying we're going to take all your jobs we're going to export them

00:17:19.780 we're going to we're going to make them all electric and they are i know that solar doesn't

00:17:24.120 work they know the gray new deal isn't there and so meeting them at their level it's why it was so

00:17:28.760 important for president trump when he visited gm the last time he is gaining support there we have

00:17:33.680 to continue that as a party and as a movement because grassroots involves people it is not

00:17:40.140 just organization steve we have to identify and recognize them and we have to say to them look

00:17:44.820 the destruction that happened to us in our lives during the COVID crisis, how it affected children,

00:17:50.440 how it affected our health care costs, forced vaccinations, all of these things. They are

00:17:54.920 looking for accountability, for truth, but accountability for these things. It's something

00:17:59.720 that this administration, or I should say, Congress has not delivered well on. And that

00:18:04.020 has demoralized much of the Trump MAGA base in this off-year election. But I think that why it

00:18:10.180 is gaining steam right now in these last few weeks is the contrary to this is Abdul Syed,

00:18:15.960 who is anti, obviously, America. He is anti, he is for big government. He is against our

00:18:23.180 unalienable rights. He's against our parental rights. He's against our religious rights,

00:18:27.800 our Second Amendment rights. He is after nothing, no more than what our government was before. 0.51

00:18:32.820 They are after control of you and your family and every aspect of your life. He tells us,

00:18:38.300 by the way, and he's told them, you're going to pay more taxes. You're going to pay more FICA.

00:18:41.960 We're going to take away your health care. We're going to have health care for all. These unions

00:18:46.140 need to understand your wonderful health care that you have will be gone if Abdul Syed has his way.

00:18:53.100 And I think that is the message we need to continue to harp on in these last three weeks.

00:18:57.960 I want to do, before I let you go, I want to do two things. We're going to have you back on and

00:19:02.320 see how this progresses, because I do think it's coming together, but I still think it's obviously

00:19:05.920 a tough uphill fight. Can you put that chart back up? You said that this chart should show us through

00:19:12.840 the grassroots effort that there's enthusiasm now coming together on our side. And you said a little

00:19:17.500 bit of depression on their side. Now, everything the mainstream media is telling us is Abdul is

00:19:24.320 like running for president. He's going to be the first president that it's just everything is

00:19:28.940 unbelievable. He's the leader of this. They're driving it home. Walk us through that chart

00:19:34.220 of why that makes the case that you're starting to see where we're coming together and maybe their

00:19:40.200 vote is not, sir. Okay. So looking deeper into this chart, which doesn't show on this one,

00:19:45.640 they are showing that strong Democratic counties of this turnout right now is down about a tenth

00:19:51.740 of 1% over where it was in 2024. The lean Democratic counties are down 2.2% from where

00:20:01.420 they were in 2024. The lean Republican county votes are up 1.8 percent, and the strong Republican

00:20:08.020 counties are up a half a percent. At this stage of, remember, mail-in ballots, we are election

00:20:13.700 day voters, but these efforts that are on the ground are looking to bank these votes, are looking

00:20:18.620 to get people to activate. Now, certainly more people are getting their ballots in Michigan

00:20:22.960 sent to them every cycle than have in the past, but the fact is this is turning out votes. I can

00:20:29.040 tell you in the 2022 cycle, we were down by 50 to 100,000 votes at this same point in time because

00:20:35.700 the abortion issue was on the ballot. And it was because, of course, we were being told,

00:20:40.940 no, just vote on election day. And obviously in 24, Trump flipped that script and said,

00:20:45.200 let's get out the vote. What this is showing here is they literally have 4,600 vote different

00:20:50.220 in the Democrat versus Republican in this early vote. They need to be ahead by a lot

00:20:54.780 on election day. I can tell you both in 2022 and 24, if you went into the Democratic precincts or

00:21:00.860 heavily Democratic precincts, there were no lines. There was nobody waiting to vote. You literally

00:21:06.380 thought we were going to win by a ton. And when you went into the Republican areas, the lines were

00:21:11.120 around the block, around the buildings. And we were saying we have to win by a lot. It's because

00:21:15.380 they had the votes in the can already because they have this relational organizing model.

00:21:20.480 There have been. Remember, we have not won a Senate race in Michigan for 30 years, three decades.

00:21:27.980 This is a huge opportunity we have. We are almost even with them at this stage.

00:21:33.160 And early voting begins on October 24th. I believe if we continue the effort on the ground and in

00:21:38.660 these congressional races, and we've got some important ones here in Michigan, two specifically

00:21:43.100 that we need to maintain and hold in order for us to have a chance to hold the House. And that's

00:21:48.300 District 7 with Tom Barrett, and that is District 10. And that's the old John James district as

00:21:54.560 well. So love to come back and share more with you when we have time.

00:21:57.160 I'm going to come back and get to that. Last thing. First off, do you think any of that

00:22:02.800 potential weakness, Abdul, is the, because they had a brutal primary, and there's a lot of people's

00:22:09.640 noses out of joint in the primary. There are some Democrats coming over to Rogers actually making

00:22:14.060 spots, the Black community, and particularly Black men in Detroit, a lot of it did not like

00:22:19.840 what they heard about this. Do you think that could be part of it, that the residue from that,

00:22:26.840 you know, we all talk about people are going to vote against President Trump voting for 24,

00:22:30.060 but you're actually seeing that, or maybe beginning to see that in the math,

00:22:33.840 that this primary left a lot more scars in Michigan than people thought?

00:22:38.360 It absolutely did. They had a lot of work to do. Why is Obama coming to Michigan? Obama's coming

00:22:42.920 to Michigan to actually campaign for Abdul trying to secure and shore up the black vote.

00:22:49.180 The fact is the black voters believe that Abdul Syed does not represent them.

00:22:55.500 They do not believe.

00:22:56.560 They are not, they do not get along, honestly.

00:22:59.640 If you go into Dearborn and some of those areas, they don't believe.

00:23:02.880 They think he cares more about Palestine than he does about the people of Michigan.

00:23:06.940 And I do believe that they are going to suppress the vote.

00:23:09.500 But I also think they're going to oversample or over believe that more of the people who

00:23:14.060 are voting in those counties automatically and take it for granted, they're going to

00:23:17.640 be 90% Democratic vote.

00:23:19.680 And I think there might be surprised.

00:23:21.460 We only need to change that by five, 6% in order for us to deliver this for Rogers, along

00:23:27.440 with turning out more of our own in the low propensity area.

00:23:29.760 I believe we can do it as long as we become a party that cares about the people and provide

00:23:34.720 them hope and inspiration for the future.

00:23:37.600 That, I think, is where we need to spend this last three weeks.

00:23:41.600 Okay, last question.

00:23:42.820 You said last time Rodgers, he lost by 19,000 votes, but I remember they had no money at

00:23:48.300 the end.

00:23:48.680 He ran out of money.

00:23:49.400 And one of the reasons was the polling showed he was down.

00:23:52.300 Do you believe changes have been made to the polling make it better?

00:23:54.980 Because now you look at this polling, it's very, very close.

00:23:58.060 Most of it's been margin of error.

00:24:00.120 Is that because he's doing a better job?

00:24:01.980 Or is the polling still, there were wide discrepancies.

00:24:05.280 If you put the discrepancy in, Rogers could actually technically be up.

00:24:10.140 Where do you think we stand with polling?

00:24:11.560 Because when I go do these grassroots meetings and talk to leaders, I'm hearing that, hey,

00:24:16.760 MAGA, as soon as they know it's a pollster, they're hanging up the phone.

00:24:19.460 They will not respond.

00:24:20.900 They don't want to talk.

00:24:21.520 They think it's all a sigh up.

00:24:22.880 What is our situation in Michigan on this topic, sir?

00:24:27.200 Well, who answers the polls?

00:24:28.540 I think it's those college-educated and young socialist people who are more than happy to

00:24:32.580 talk about where they are.

00:24:34.080 And I do believe that long ago, several cycles ago, most conservative, most Republicans,

00:24:40.820 most moderate, and I think most independents don't want to participate in polling, so

00:24:44.680 I don't trust them.

00:24:45.340 I think the Republican, especially the Senate fund, knows they made a giant mistake this

00:24:49.300 last cycle.

00:24:50.000 By not putting some money into Rogers, we tried to convince him it was a winnable race.

00:24:53.840 We tried to convince others to get involved and get engaged. 0.99

00:24:56.820 I think what changed here is this midterm and the fact that what we had is Abdul Syed

00:25:02.260 win this cycle.

00:25:03.540 And I think that they immediately knew that based on what happened the last cycle and also what they see as a candidate, which I think was a became a bellwether, I think, for us to be able to say, you know, again, they think Mike Rogers is a good candidate and this is a winnable race.

00:25:21.240 And I think that's why they're coming in so heavily.

00:25:23.100 And they also know to control and keep the Senate, they have to try and flip a seat or two because they're likely to lose in a North Carolina or in one of these other areas.

00:25:31.540 And if that happens, then the Senate becomes an issue and we can't have that happen.

00:25:36.840 But I do think we've convinced many others because we overperformed in Michigan.

00:25:41.520 I think America First Works also saw that in the polling and they continued to see that

00:25:46.820 earlier this year that this was absolutely winnable.

00:25:50.860 And I think there's more trust in the fact we are very Midwestern.

00:25:54.080 If we all vote in Michigan, if the faith-based people get engaged and involved and we tell

00:25:58.840 the message and connect with the voters. Michigan will become more like Ohio. It will become more

00:26:03.740 like Iowa. We just have to engage off cycle and we've got to finish the job right now. And that's

00:26:09.540 where it begins. Ron, where do we go find out more about Stand Up Michigan? You, social media,

00:26:14.960 website, where do people go? Well, on X, it's Stand Up Michigan, we the people. And you can

00:26:19.880 follow me on my public figure page on Facebook at just Ron Armstrong. But it really is about you

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00:26:58.780 Ron, great, great message and great work.

00:27:01.340 We'll be back to you.

00:27:02.120 Short commercial break.

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00:31:29.420 Thomas McInerney from Johnson County, Iowa.

00:31:34.080 I'm one of the grassroots leaders.

00:31:35.140 So, Thomas, you heard the report from Michigan.

00:31:38.760 So where do we stand in Iowa right now,

00:31:40.700 particularly the fact that you had this announcement

00:31:42.680 that they're going to pull money out of, I guess, Iowa 1 on Miller Meeks.

00:31:51.260 And these House seats are absolutely vital to hold the House.

00:31:55.060 And I realize you've got a governor of Canada that's independent,

00:31:57.160 And he, I think, hopefully at the top of the ticket is going to help.

00:31:59.820 And you've got problems in the Senate race.

00:32:01.820 You've got problems in these House races.

00:32:03.760 We know right now with three weeks to go, it's all about the grassroots and turning out the vote.

00:32:07.900 Where do you think we stand in Iowa?

00:32:10.560 Well, Iowa has a big opportunity to get people out to vote with a different message than they usually hear from Republicans.

00:32:17.520 For one, we're finally talking about protecting family farms, protecting against vaccine mandates, protecting people that feel that they've not been heard over the years from Republicans.

00:32:32.280 That message has resonated, and that is why we think that Zach Lane is going to be a positive message to bring people to the voting booth that would have actually just probably skipped this election like they've done in 18 or in 22.

00:32:50.260 Two, we're focused heavily on we've selected people from the voting from the voter registration list that the people that have not have skipped one of those midterm elections in the last in the last two cycles.

00:33:05.980 And if they skipped one, we're knocking on their door. We're going to get engaged with those people.

00:33:10.160 They are the ones that need to understand that their vote matters.

00:33:13.720 And when they find out that Ashley Henson and Marionette Miller-Meeks and the others, that they are the right choice, the added bonus is to talk about the issues that Zach Lane has brought up.

00:33:28.240 is uh is there what about those folks that are have been trump supporters uh and even the lower

00:33:39.240 propensity maybe don't come out but that they are have just sat there and go hey look i'm in iowa

00:33:45.120 uh we don't we've always been very hesitant about all these global conflicts that america's in

00:33:50.900 we're particularly very concerned about this middle east conflict we don't like the direction

00:33:56.560 it's headed. We don't like the economic impact that it's had. How do you go about, now you got

00:34:02.920 Zach Lane running a more populist, hey, let's make Iowa first. But we are saddled with some of the

00:34:11.680 issues that we've got, particularly about the war, where maybe, you know, the Iranian, just to be

00:34:16.680 blunt, the Iranian nuclear program is just not that big a deal to a family farm that's struggling

00:34:21.100 in Iowa. How do you guys on the grassroots close that gap for people who are particularly saying,

00:34:27.920 you know what, I'm just going to take a pass this time. Trump's not on the ballot, and he may come

00:34:31.400 out here for a rally, but he's not on the ballot. I'm not a fan of Hinson. I'm not a fan of what's

00:34:36.260 going on in the National Republican Party. How do you make that sale? We make the sale by telling

00:34:42.600 people that we're, that Sac Lane, for instance, would be the governor that would protect Iowa

00:34:48.920 culture. We don't want to be a state with six large cities and a bunch of robotic combines

00:34:55.280 doing the harvest. That is where we're heading. If we don't do anything about the consolidation of

00:35:00.200 farms, family farms that are being removed 20,000 in the last 20 years, things have changed. We are

00:35:06.280 consolidation in the seed market. These things are real and they've happened within 15 years.

00:35:12.400 But people know this. There is a big resonance. This resonates with people when they talk about

00:35:17.820 what is Iowa culture? I'm a sixth generation Iowan. I have a third great grandparents buried

00:35:23.060 in this land. So, and the same goes with Zach Lane. He repeats that message. He repeats the

00:35:29.120 Iowa stories that make Iowa a memorable and a place to live and grow and to raise your family.

00:35:38.620 That's why we need to be focused on getting the public education system here to be a higher

00:35:43.920 ranking. That is done by allowing school districts to voluntarily innovate. They're being prohibited

00:35:49.940 now. And then one of Zach's initiatives is to get 80 percent, by the time he leaves as governor,

00:35:56.760 he wants to have 80 percent of the food served in public schools to be grown here in Iowa.

00:36:03.160 This would create small micro industries that would help sustain farms who want a diversified

00:36:10.560 income. A lot of farms are being hurt because they're focused on just one or two types of

00:36:17.780 like corn or soybeans. A lot of these farmers wish they had cattle on their ground. And that's

00:36:23.880 something that was something that has been kind of out of reach because it's a lot of money and

00:36:30.840 investment. And that's the issue is people don't have money to invest in these other alternative

00:36:35.380 ways of income. So these are the things that Zach is addressing. Zach Lane, he's bringing up in the

00:36:41.540 conversation, and it is definitely something that catches people to their interest. We had a woman

00:36:49.220 that was approached by one of the canvassers, and she said that she almost lost her job at the

00:36:55.460 university because she would not take the vaccine. And once she heard that Zach Lane's message of

00:37:04.240 food freedom and medical freedom, your right to choose on your choice of what you want to do with

00:37:15.360 the vaccines or not. That is your option. It's your choice. When she heard that, she said two

00:37:20.640 words. She said, thank you. And that is the message we're bringing to people so that they

00:37:25.500 know that their vote really matters if they come out to vote on November 3rd.

00:37:29.100 You said earlier, I'll let you go after this. We're going to have you back on and hopefully early next week. You said earlier that was Zach and that there's a huge amount of serious money and power in back of his opposition. Who is big agriculture backing the Democrat?

00:37:49.060 it? Oh, it's funny to say that. Absolutely. It's a $13 million withdrawn from his billionaire

00:37:56.340 family. And it is something that has been behind the scenes all along. For eight years,

00:38:02.720 Rob Sand has been the auditor. He's bought his office, basically. The last cycle, he won

00:38:08.760 against his opponent, barely, with a spending rate of 30 times more, 30 times more than his

00:38:16.820 opponent. So he beat the Republican with 30 times more money. He spent $1.7 million against a guy

00:38:23.080 who spent $60,000, and he barely won. But here's the thing. It's now a different game. He has all

00:38:30.520 the money from his family. This family is basically, they claim they just make bone broth

00:38:36.120 and other aftermarket products from agriculture. But they also include nitrates. And that nitrate

00:38:46.800 are one of the issues that has been brought up finally.

00:38:49.920 In Iowa, we have high nitrates in our water in many locations,

00:38:53.900 and we can solve this through targeted initiatives.

00:38:56.760 But the discussion, do you think it's really going to happen

00:38:58.700 from a guy who's actually, his family makes nitrates?

00:39:01.360 Do you think they're going to be the ones

00:39:02.780 that are going to do the initiative to do any cleanups?

00:39:04.780 No, I think what we're looking at is,

00:39:06.600 obviously, Rob Sand is attempting to buy an election once again,

00:39:11.440 and that's what Zach Lane is up against.

00:39:14.440 But that that we have a debate tomorrow of early voting starts tomorrow also here in Iowa.

00:39:21.560 But we have a debate number two of four. And the first one was pretty, let's say, I think Zach did pretty good.

00:39:28.140 But it'll be tomorrow night at seven o'clock here in Iowa. And we should see how that rolls.

00:39:35.160 Yeah, we're going to stream that real quickly. Where do people go on social media to find you website? All of it.

00:39:40.880 Well, you can find me at Thomas Architect on X.

00:39:50.320 Otherwise, I would contact your local county party.

00:39:54.280 We have 99 of them in Iowa.

00:39:56.580 And in this case, it's Johnson County Republicans has their website and just doing a Google search can find it.

00:40:04.760 Thomas, thank you very much.

00:40:06.280 Very inspiring.

00:40:07.420 Great.

00:40:09.080 Two pretty damn good reports.

00:40:10.880 from Michigan and Iowa. Now we're going to go to Arizona. Our own Colonel Wendy Rogers. Colonel,

00:40:17.980 something tells me you're heading to Bullhead City. Is that correct?

00:40:21.900 We are 37 minutes out of Bullhead City and my husband's driving and we're really rocking and

00:40:29.460 rolling. We're very excited to be headed there. And here's the thing. This is in a rural part

00:40:36.400 of the state, which, of course, I relate to. And I've been knocking a lot of doors up in my

00:40:42.080 district and down in the Phoenix area yesterday. I tell people at the doors every day that it's

00:40:50.040 essential that we turn out. I'm not worried how they're going to vote. I am telling them that

00:40:56.040 they need to turn out. We only had a 23 percent turnout in the primary statewide of Republicans.

00:41:03.140 We need a 40 percent turnout to win. Biggs has a path. He is within the margin of error.

00:41:12.960 And all of his ads are rolling out right now. And you've seen third party ads as we texted you

00:41:20.260 that are coming out. And they all show that this governor, Hobbs, is just so corrupt with the

00:41:27.460 pay-to-play scheme that she participated in. She voted against prohibiting sex change in 1.00

00:41:36.380 minors under 18. She voted against tax breaks for seniors and the middle class.

00:41:43.780 She didn't agree on the budget until the end. She had to go back to the negotiating table with

00:41:51.580 us, the legislature, three times, and then ended up acting like a hero, voting for everything that 1.00

00:41:57.740 we had insisted on from the beginning. She's just horrible. She vetoed 500, 500. 0.97

00:42:11.140 Okay, it froze up. We're going to get back to Colonel Rogers here in a moment. Colonel Rogers

00:42:14.760 on the way to Bullhead City. I think something tells me there's going to be a, we have her back.

00:42:18.960 we have audio yeah sorry about that continue on we lost you there for a second we lost yeah

00:42:24.620 she she vetoed 541 bills over four years more of mine than anyone's but hang on but hang on hang 0.99

00:42:33.300 on we know katie hops from the cary lake days and i was stunned that even with their cheating

00:42:40.840 they could still win she was so bad how explain to the nation because andy biggs is such a revered

00:42:48.240 individual in all the fights we've had on Capitol Hill with debt and deficits. He's always been a

00:42:52.520 leader of the House Freedom Caucus and always in there for the tough fights. How have we had poll

00:42:58.140 after poll after poll unless MAGA is not participating? How has Andy Biggs been behind

00:43:04.200 some of these polls? Some of them I saw was double digits. It was mind numbing. Is it the fact that

00:43:09.280 MAGA, because as we know, Arizona is railhead for what I call ultra MAGA, are the folks not

00:43:17.240 participating or how has he been consistent behind in the polls? Are the polls just not

00:43:22.100 operative out there and we should forget it? Or is there something she's doing with independent

00:43:27.360 voters that have them saying, hey, I want more Hobbs? They don't want more Hobbs. They need bigs. 0.82

00:43:34.900 They want bigs, but they're shy about answering polls. I get them. I ignore them. And so I think

00:43:41.940 that we will turn out. And it's picking up. I sense sort of a turning of the corner. And also

00:43:50.840 there has been, honestly, the money differential between the millions that she has and is spending

00:43:58.280 and has spent compared to what he has had. But he's rolling it out now. We also have Turning

00:44:05.220 Point, who has been putting out really great black and white Halloween scare ads, which have

00:44:10.980 been resonating. And so I think, I feel, I sense that there is an actual turning here and that he

00:44:20.420 can win. And we have not only Biggs, but we have three other extraordinarily talented men running.

00:44:28.820 We have Colliden for Secretary of State. We have my colleague, Warren Peterson, who is the

00:44:34.700 Senate president running for attorney general, who's run a very good campaign. And then we had

00:44:40.780 But when you look at those races for the other statewide races, they're dead heats.

00:44:45.820 I mean, it's Andy that's been the outlier here.

00:44:49.600 Let me ask you, I want to go back some math in the time we've got because, you know, the audience loves you.

00:44:53.800 You said, hey, the turnout in the primary was 23 percent.

00:44:56.920 If we get the turnout to 40 percent, you're confident they're going to be voting the right way.

00:45:00.820 So walk me through the Wendy Rogers plan of how that's a big lift.

00:45:05.500 How do you go from 23 percent to 40 percent?

00:45:08.420 Is it President Trump rallies?

00:45:09.700 Is it more door to door? How do you do that? It's President Trump's rally. It is more door

00:45:15.480 to door, which Turning Point is helping with and Wendy Rogers is helping with. But also it's just

00:45:22.360 the realization that we can win this and that it is so elementally important. And that message is

00:45:31.100 getting out there. The more people I talk to, the more they get it. And I already mailed my ballot

00:45:37.700 it in so mail it in walk it in but vote early vote now that is the thing bank your vote bank

00:45:49.620 your vote vote now make it too big to rig last question these two house races i think it's

00:45:57.120 arizona one with the place kicker feely and then juan siskamani down in the tucson area these are

00:46:04.520 two that could, this could determine the control of the House of Representatives. How do you feel

00:46:09.140 about those? I feel really good about that. I just had a conversation two hours ago with a

00:46:16.840 Scottsdale city councilman, a very prominent guy, Adam Quasman, and I asked him that question about

00:46:22.900 Feely, and he thinks he's going to win by two or three points. Shaw, his Democrat running mate,

00:46:28.900 is this kooky doctor who just today parked in a handicapped spot. I mean, really, doctor?

00:46:35.620 He's been a state house rep all these years. I've had to work with him. He's a real schmoozer,

00:46:41.860 real slick guy. People are seeing through him and his hypocrisy. I was with Siskamani last week, 1.00

00:46:48.600 as a matter of fact, because my district goes all the way down north of Tucson. In fact,

00:46:53.480 he has a few of my areas and uh had a good chat with him we uh helped dedicate the opening of the

00:47:00.500 Florence Copper Mine first copper mine uh Zeldin was there first copper mine in the nation uh to

00:47:07.260 open in 20 years and I asked Siscomani how he was doing uh with his race he's very upbeat I know his

00:47:15.080 wife from a long time ago and uh I'm I'm feeling really good about Siscomani the woman he's running

00:47:21.520 against is a completely corrupt airhead kind of like our governor and uh you know these people

00:47:29.200 they are being seen for who they are where do the democrats get these people i just haven't figured

00:47:33.720 it out colonel rogers heading to bullhead city we're checking with you on the rally tomorrow

00:47:39.400 give us your coordinates what's your social media what's your campaign site as you know

00:47:43.560 the war and posse loves you from all these fights we've had in arizona over the last 10 years

00:47:48.700 so where do people go to get more wendy rogers ma'am well i am on x wendy rogers az and uh the

00:47:56.180 other platforms getter gab uh truth social and so forth uh also my website please sign up for

00:48:03.460 updates wendy rogers.org wendy rogers.org and yes i hope to have dinner tonight with ben burquham

00:48:11.640 oh wow fantastic man that'll be one for the uh maybe i call maybe i'll call into that dinner

00:48:19.860 that'll be fantastic thank you colonel looking forward to seeing you we'll check in tomorrow

00:48:27.900 thank you steve colonel wendy rogers remember when i first met her she was flying her air force

00:48:34.940 colonel she was flying her plane this little prop plane she was flying her plane up to the 0.73

00:48:40.260 Indian reservations and everywhere uh to uh to to run at that time uh in in that district should

00:48:47.140 run for the house it was really incredible just an incredible woman uh what we're going to be

00:48:51.620 doing is a a combination of polling of people coming in with math but also the focus on the

00:48:58.740 grassroots now because everything's kind of shifted to uh who's going to turn out the vote

00:49:04.600 It's that simple.

00:49:06.220 And understanding that there's a lot of people who said, hey, you know what?

00:49:11.080 I was there in 24, I was there in 22, but I just, there's some of these policies I just

00:49:15.160 adamantly do not agree with, and I'm not going to do it.

00:49:18.060 You're going to hear from the grassroots leaders of what they're doing to get the vote out.

00:49:22.320 And it's not easy.

00:49:23.220 It's really, you know, door by door, person by person.

00:49:27.220 But I think you've seen the dedication just over the last week of the folks that are out

00:49:32.080 there and they're absolutely tremendous I mean what they're doing is just absolutely incredible

00:49:36.320 and I think it's um I think it speaks a lot about this movement and about the people associated with

00:49:41.240 it also remember it was only a couple weeks ago that things looked really really really grim um

00:49:48.680 I think it looked uh um like it had to be a very narrow path and this is a long way from over you

00:49:55.120 could still have a blue wave you could still have it you could still have a tsunami if people don't

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Bannon's War Room - October 13, 2026

WarRoom Battleground EP 2006： The Pope Undergoes Surgery For Lung Cancer

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